WEBVTT
1
00:00:00.780 --> 00:00:03.200
This program is made
possible by the giving
2
00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:06.000
of the God-called partners
of Renner Ministries.
3
00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.960
It's time for big miracles
and changes in your life.
4
00:00:12.980 --> 00:00:16.740
Join Denise Renner and dive
into the study of God's word,
5
00:00:16.740 --> 00:00:20.980
which has great power to strengthen faith, inspire change,
6
00:00:20.980 --> 00:00:23.000
heal physically and spiritually,
7
00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.920
and most importantly, help
you learn about the power
8
00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:27.540
of Christ Jesus living in you.
9
00:00:28.780 --> 00:00:30.760
It's time with Denise Renner.
10
00:00:32.980 --> 00:00:35.380
Hello, my name is Denise Renner
11
00:00:35.380 --> 00:00:38.260
and I want to welcome you to my program.
12
00:00:38.260 --> 00:00:40.840
I'm so excited about this program today
13
00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:43.360
and the last few programs we've been doing
14
00:00:43.360 --> 00:00:47.500
and it's a series called, Five Amazing, Powerful,
15
00:00:47.500 --> 00:00:48.520
Anointed Women.
16
00:00:49.460 --> 00:00:52.500
And I have my guest with me today
17
00:00:52.500 --> 00:00:54.400
and her name is Sharon Doughty.
18
00:00:56.740 --> 00:01:01.200
Such a pioneer such a legend,
19
00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.720
such a powerful woman of God.
20
00:01:04.600 --> 00:01:08.960
And I mean, I am so honored that I get
21
00:01:08.960 --> 00:01:11.240
to spend this time with her
22
00:01:11.240 --> 00:01:16.140
and as she begins to share,
you're gonna understand
23
00:01:16.140 --> 00:01:19.080
why I am so honored.
24
00:01:19.080 --> 00:01:22.400
And Sharon, I just thank you so much
25
00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:24.360
for coming and being with me.
26
00:01:24.360 --> 00:01:27.961
Thank you, Denise, and I am
honored to be with you today.
27
00:01:27.961 --> 00:01:29.261
Oh, Sharon, thank you.
28
00:01:30.101 --> 00:01:33.241
Sharon, I wanna tell them a
little bit about your book.
29
00:01:33.241 --> 00:01:35.821
Certainly.
When you read this book,
30
00:01:35.821 --> 00:01:39.841
it's called, The Draw of
Heaven: Supernatural Insights
31
00:01:39.841 --> 00:01:42.941
to Life's Hardest Questions.
32
00:01:42.941 --> 00:01:45.441
When you read this book,
33
00:01:45.441 --> 00:01:47.981
it's not only just gonna encourage you,
34
00:01:47.981 --> 00:01:50.921
but it's gonna open some
things in your own soul
35
00:01:50.921 --> 00:01:55.921
and heart to see more of how
magnificent your salvation is
36
00:01:55.981 --> 00:01:58.761
and how magnificent Jesus is.
37
00:01:58.761 --> 00:02:02.381
So Sharon, as I was reading your book,
38
00:02:03.781 --> 00:02:07.161
the first thing that really
touched me in your book
39
00:02:08.721 --> 00:02:13.281
was your fire of course
40
00:02:13.281 --> 00:02:17.741
that you and your husband,
Billy Jo has been gone.
41
00:02:17.741 --> 00:02:20.041
H- how long has Bill, Billy been gone?
42
00:02:20.041 --> 00:02:21.541
It's been like 16 years.
43
00:02:21.541 --> 00:02:24.321
Oh my gosh. I can't believe it, but she
44
00:02:24.321 --> 00:02:27.881
and her husband, they pastored a
45
00:02:27.881 --> 00:02:29.761
huge church in Tulsa
46
00:02:29.761 --> 00:02:33.261
and I love their church.
47
00:02:33.261 --> 00:02:36.181
Rick and I ministered
there several times. Right.
48
00:02:36.181 --> 00:02:40.661
But when you go there, it
was every kind of person.
49
00:02:40.661 --> 00:02:44.201
It was Hispanic. It was black. It was white.
50
00:02:44.201 --> 00:02:47.541
It was Korean. It was
Asian. It was Russian.
51
00:02:48.661 --> 00:02:50.402
It was French. It was German.
52
00:02:50.402 --> 00:02:54.760
I mean, every, every person, that,
53
00:02:54.760 --> 00:02:58.802
that was the heart, Sharon,
that was in your church.
54
00:02:58.802 --> 00:03:03.042
Yeah. Like a huge heart, like a net
55
00:03:03.042 --> 00:03:05.742
that reached out and grabbed people.
56
00:03:06.642 --> 00:03:10.702
And so and they did an
amazing work at Tulsa.
57
00:03:10.702 --> 00:03:12.662
And Sharon, I don't know what you know,
58
00:03:12.662 --> 00:03:13.922
your son's doing now,
59
00:03:13.922 --> 00:03:17.142
but I just know what I knew
about you and Billy Jo.
60
00:03:17.142 --> 00:03:20.622
And their hearts were so huge
61
00:03:20.622 --> 00:03:24.222
that they literally changed poor areas
62
00:03:24.222 --> 00:03:29.002
and gang areas in Tulsa by
bringing people in there
63
00:03:29.002 --> 00:03:31.562
to share the gospel and the love of Jesus.
64
00:03:31.562 --> 00:03:34.222
And they didn't just stay in their lifestyle.
65
00:03:34.222 --> 00:03:37.022
They came to church and they were saved
66
00:03:37.022 --> 00:03:38.622
and they were discipled.
67
00:03:38.622 --> 00:03:42.482
And I mean, this is a
powerful woman I'm telling you
68
00:03:42.482 --> 00:03:44.822
that I have with me here today.
69
00:03:44.822 --> 00:03:48.182
And Sharon, so you
70
00:03:48.182 --> 00:03:49.762
and Billy Joe, I mean,
71
00:03:49.762 --> 00:03:53.202
you guys would witness if
somebody stood still you were
72
00:03:53.202 --> 00:03:54.742
witnessing to them.
73
00:03:54.742 --> 00:03:57.880
So I love that about you.
74
00:03:57.880 --> 00:04:01.662
I love that about you, Sharon, that you're...
75
00:04:01.662 --> 00:04:03.322
God is alive in you.
76
00:04:03.322 --> 00:04:08.242
Amen. And Sharon, how important do you think it is now
77
00:04:08.242 --> 00:04:11.102
that we open our mouth and
that we speak God's word
78
00:04:11.102 --> 00:04:12.862
and the truth to people?
79
00:04:12.862 --> 00:04:14.242
Well, I think it's very important
80
00:04:14.242 --> 00:04:18.403
because in this time that
we're in, God needs us.
81
00:04:18.403 --> 00:04:20.323
He needs every person.
82
00:04:20.323 --> 00:04:22.363
Every one of us are needed in this time.
83
00:04:22.363 --> 00:04:25.403
You know, I was, I was
coming out of Walmart one day
84
00:04:25.403 --> 00:04:28.403
and I saw these three guys
lined up against the wall
85
00:04:28.403 --> 00:04:29.743
and they were smoking their cigarettes
86
00:04:29.743 --> 00:04:32.403
and I went to get in my car with my groceries
87
00:04:32.403 --> 00:04:35.703
and I had this thought come to me - You need
88
00:04:35.703 --> 00:04:36.783
to go witness to them. And I
89
00:04:36.783 --> 00:04:39.103
thought, I really don't want to.
90
00:04:39.103 --> 00:04:41.443
I know. I understand.
91
00:04:41.443 --> 00:04:44.383
And and they don't really
look like they're interested.
92
00:04:44.383 --> 00:04:48.403
And so anyway, the Lord
just pushed me and I went
93
00:04:48.403 --> 00:04:51.803
and I said to them, I
said, Somebody's praying
94
00:04:51.803 --> 00:04:54.703
for you guys. And so they said they,
95
00:04:54.703 --> 00:04:56.883
they put their cigarettes
down, you know, and,
96
00:04:56.883 --> 00:04:58.003
and started to put them out
97
00:04:58.003 --> 00:05:01.483
and one of the guys, two
of them went back in the,
98
00:05:01.483 --> 00:05:03.143
in the building and one of them stayed
99
00:05:03.143 --> 00:05:06.783
and he said, Well, we're
on our break right now and,
100
00:05:06.783 --> 00:05:08.403
and we just needed to come out here
101
00:05:08.403 --> 00:05:11.123
for just some fresh air.
And I said, Well, you know,
102
00:05:11.123 --> 00:05:15.683
you don't need those cigarettes. And so they just said,
103
00:05:15.683 --> 00:05:18.923
Well, you know, we,
it's so that we can kind
104
00:05:18.923 --> 00:05:22.883
of relax. And I said, Well,
you don't need those. And so
105
00:05:22.883 --> 00:05:26.083
anyway, as I was talking to him, I had this thought
106
00:05:27.743 --> 00:05:29.843
you know, sometimes we're put in people's pathway
107
00:05:29.843 --> 00:05:33.663
because somebody has prayed for them to stop doing something
108
00:05:33.663 --> 00:05:37.203
and we are there to help them to see it.
109
00:05:37.203 --> 00:05:39.183
And then other times we're in their pathway
110
00:05:39.183 --> 00:05:42.784
because he needs us to just share the gospel of, you know,
111
00:05:42.784 --> 00:05:43.924
how they can be saved.
112
00:05:43.924 --> 00:05:46.744
And so anyway,
113
00:05:48.264 --> 00:05:49.904
I think about situations like that
114
00:05:49.904 --> 00:05:52.284
and then I think about
another time I was on a plane
115
00:05:52.284 --> 00:05:54.064
and this guy was sitting next to me
116
00:05:54.064 --> 00:05:56.484
and I just thought, I need to talk to him.
117
00:05:56.484 --> 00:05:58.304
And so I turned to him.
118
00:05:58.304 --> 00:06:00.964
I said, So have you ever received Jesus in your heart? And
119
00:06:00.964 --> 00:06:05.064
he said, Well, I'm Muslim.
And I said, Oh, okay. I said,
120
00:06:05.064 --> 00:06:10.064
Well tell me exactly what you
believe. So he said, Well,
121
00:06:10.104 --> 00:06:13.014
I can't really tell you because I don't really know.
122
00:06:13.014 --> 00:06:14.840
And I said, Well, I just...
123
00:06:14.840 --> 00:06:17.244
And I had felt led by the Holy Spirit
124
00:06:17.244 --> 00:06:21.164
before the trip to put a book in my bag
125
00:06:21.164 --> 00:06:23.164
and it's a book called - So What's the Difference
126
00:06:23.164 --> 00:06:24.704
by Fritz Ridenour.
127
00:06:24.704 --> 00:06:28.784
And so my dad had given it
to me back many years ago
128
00:06:28.784 --> 00:06:33.644
and then they had re- republished it and added to it,
129
00:06:33.644 --> 00:06:35.704
but it's about all the different religions in the world
130
00:06:35.704 --> 00:06:39.424
and at the end of each chapter
it shows the difference
131
00:06:39.424 --> 00:06:41.904
between Christianity and that religion.
132
00:06:41.904 --> 00:06:44.384
So anyway, I said to him - You know, I just happened
133
00:06:44.384 --> 00:06:46.184
to have this book in my bag here
134
00:06:46.184 --> 00:06:47.884
and I said, I can give it to you
135
00:06:47.884 --> 00:06:52.124
and you can read the chapter
of what you believe. And so
136
00:06:52.124 --> 00:06:53.884
He said - That's, that's hilarious.
137
00:06:53.884 --> 00:06:56.544
He said, Okay. So he read it
138
00:06:56.544 --> 00:06:58.680
and I knew by the time he
finished, I said, Now,
139
00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:00.044
would you like me to pray with you
140
00:07:00.044 --> 00:07:02.284
and receive Jesus in
your heart? And he says,
141
00:07:02.284 --> 00:07:05.144
Okay. So I said, Take my
hand. And so he took my hand
142
00:07:05.144 --> 00:07:08.285
and we prayed, he prayed
the salvation prayer
143
00:07:08.285 --> 00:07:11.185
and I thought, you know,
that was really easy.
144
00:07:11.185 --> 00:07:14.185
But what had happened was
I said to him, I said,
145
00:07:14.185 --> 00:07:16.665
So you're a, you're a historical Muslim.
146
00:07:16.665 --> 00:07:20.165
You're not really a committed one. And he said, I said,
147
00:07:20.165 --> 00:07:22.325
You know, there's historical Christians.
148
00:07:22.325 --> 00:07:25.465
They don't really know what they believe. But I said
149
00:07:26.685 --> 00:07:29.265
you know, sometimes people
have to point that out.
150
00:07:29.265 --> 00:07:32.165
And so anyway, as I shared
with him, he, he told me,
151
00:07:32.165 --> 00:07:36.645
he said, You know yeah.
And so he prayed that prayer
152
00:07:36.645 --> 00:07:39.945
of salvation and asked
Jesus to come into his life.
153
00:07:39.945 --> 00:07:42.985
And I though, you know, sometimes
154
00:07:42.985 --> 00:07:47.505
I have been in taxi cars in Washington DC where,
155
00:07:47.505 --> 00:07:50.685
you know, as a Muslim
that was driving the taxi
156
00:07:50.685 --> 00:07:54.625
and, you know, he would
want to argue, but every now
157
00:07:54.625 --> 00:07:57.525
and then there's somebody
that's not wanting to argue
158
00:07:57.525 --> 00:08:00.725
and and you never know when
that's going to happen.
159
00:08:00.725 --> 00:08:02.105
That's true.
The point is, is
160
00:08:02.105 --> 00:08:05.465
that are we really willing
to listen to the voice
161
00:08:05.465 --> 00:08:08.905
of the Holy Spirit and
then just follow his lead?
162
00:08:08.905 --> 00:08:12.325
And I think that's basically
what it boils down to is
163
00:08:12.325 --> 00:08:14.845
learning how to listen to
the voice of the Holy Spirit
164
00:08:14.845 --> 00:08:17.505
and then follow the promptings.
165
00:08:17.505 --> 00:08:21.625
Yes. And because he prompts
us at times to do things
166
00:08:21.625 --> 00:08:24.525
that are out of our comfort zone
167
00:08:24.525 --> 00:08:27.005
but he prompts us
168
00:08:27.005 --> 00:08:30.085
because he's wanting to
win people to the Lord.
169
00:08:30.085 --> 00:08:33.286
And you know, I think from
the time that I got saved
170
00:08:33.286 --> 00:08:35.306
all the way through Billy Joe
171
00:08:35.306 --> 00:08:39.066
and I our lives together it was
172
00:08:39.066 --> 00:08:42.706
because we, we both wanted
to follow that voice,
173
00:08:42.706 --> 00:08:44.666
that voice on the inside.
174
00:08:44.666 --> 00:08:48.166
And that voice on the
inside is trying to help us
175
00:08:48.166 --> 00:08:50.946
and speak to us what
to say and what to do.
176
00:08:52.666 --> 00:08:53.746
So good, Sharon.
177
00:08:54.906 --> 00:08:58.826
You know, Sharon, when you
speak about it, it sounds
178
00:08:58.826 --> 00:09:01.546
so simple, you know, that -
179
00:09:01.546 --> 00:09:03.186
And I'm a very simple person.
180
00:09:03.186 --> 00:09:05.946
Yeah. I know. Well, me too.
181
00:09:05.946 --> 00:09:10.686
Oh, Sharon, I'm thinking
182
00:09:11.546 --> 00:09:14.026
just this happened a couple years ago
183
00:09:15.066 --> 00:09:17.706
because you said something when you were talking, you said
184
00:09:18.586 --> 00:09:20.926
you don't know what their
response is going to be.
185
00:09:20.926 --> 00:09:22.166
Right, right.
You don't know
186
00:09:22.166 --> 00:09:24.026
how God's been working on them.
187
00:09:24.026 --> 00:09:28.126
Sure.
So I went to this restaurant,
188
00:09:28.126 --> 00:09:32.526
I picked up a two-go order,
I went to my, back to my car
189
00:09:32.526 --> 00:09:36.146
and the Holy Spirit said, I
want you to go back in there.
190
00:09:36.146 --> 00:09:37.766
I want you to go to the bar.
191
00:09:37.766 --> 00:09:39.866
I want - I want you to say
192
00:09:41.066 --> 00:09:43.926
that there's someone of you
193
00:09:43.926 --> 00:09:46.926
and you've been contemplating suicide
194
00:09:46.926 --> 00:09:49.366
and the God wants you to know
195
00:09:49.366 --> 00:09:51.680
that someone is praying for you.
196
00:09:51.680 --> 00:09:55.026
Yeah. So I went back in
197
00:09:56.506 --> 00:09:59.347
and I began to speak; the bartender,
198
00:09:59.347 --> 00:10:02.807
she acted like, Oh yes, we know who you are.
199
00:10:02.807 --> 00:10:06.047
You're Jesus crazy person,
200
00:10:06.047 --> 00:10:08.527
but I didn't pay attention to her looks
201
00:10:08.527 --> 00:10:12.687
or anything. And I kept
zeroing in on these people
202
00:10:12.687 --> 00:10:14.567
that were sitting right there at the bar
203
00:10:15.547 --> 00:10:19.867
and this one man, I said,
I gave the word
204
00:10:21.047 --> 00:10:25.007
and he said, I know what you're talking about.
205
00:10:26.040 --> 00:10:28.927
So the Holy Spirit just nailed him
206
00:10:28.927 --> 00:10:32.567
that he was contemplating suicide
207
00:10:32.567 --> 00:10:34.767
and he knew who was praying for him.
208
00:10:34.767 --> 00:10:36.367
Yeah. And,
209
00:10:36.367 --> 00:10:40.927
you know, God, he wants to give nudges from heaven.
210
00:10:40.927 --> 00:10:42.927
That's right. - Through us.
211
00:10:42.927 --> 00:10:44.987
That's right. And Sharon, you've done
212
00:10:44.987 --> 00:10:46.667
that all your life
213
00:10:46.667 --> 00:10:48.147
Well, you know,
214
00:10:49.047 --> 00:10:51.847
I think the important thing is
our obedience to that voice.
215
00:10:53.207 --> 00:10:55.667
You know, when we obey that prompting
216
00:10:55.667 --> 00:10:58.847
and I find that the Holy Spirit speaks to us in promptings.
217
00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:02.027
He prompts us to do something
218
00:11:02.027 --> 00:11:06.127
and if we obey that, then we
get another prompting later
219
00:11:06.127 --> 00:11:08.347
and, you know, later on.
220
00:11:08.347 --> 00:11:11.627
And so he's testing to see,
221
00:11:11.627 --> 00:11:13.467
are we gonna obey his promptings
222
00:11:14.627 --> 00:11:15.687
That's so good.
223
00:11:15.687 --> 00:11:19.027
Yeah.
Well, Sharon, okay, your book,
224
00:11:20.027 --> 00:11:23.728
you go into detail about Billy Jo's passing -
225
00:11:23.728 --> 00:11:24.728
Yeah.
226
00:11:24.728 --> 00:11:28.988
In different experiences that
you've had since he passed
227
00:11:29.988 --> 00:11:34.708
and I wanted you to share
if you would, what happened
228
00:11:34.708 --> 00:11:38.928
to you when, when you were in Nicaragua and
229
00:11:38.928 --> 00:11:41.288
because when I heard the story and it,
230
00:11:41.288 --> 00:11:43.468
and it's in the book, it just showed
231
00:11:43.468 --> 00:11:45.608
how close heaven is to us.
232
00:11:45.608 --> 00:11:47.768
Yes, it is. I believe that.
233
00:11:50.008 --> 00:11:51.248
After my husband passed,
234
00:11:51.248 --> 00:11:54.588
because we had been
ministering in various nations
235
00:11:54.588 --> 00:11:58.688
before, I just felt continued
to do what I was gonna do.
236
00:11:58.688 --> 00:12:01.588
In fact, I heard that the Lord say to me,
237
00:12:01.588 --> 00:12:04.488
Philippians 1:21 says,
For me to live is Christ
238
00:12:04.488 --> 00:12:06.968
to die is gained. And he
said, Billy Joe has died,
239
00:12:06.968 --> 00:12:10.088
he's gained, but you're still
alive, alive on the earth
240
00:12:10.088 --> 00:12:13.988
and your purpose hasn't
changed. So I thought, I need
241
00:12:13.988 --> 00:12:18.648
to go ahead and travel out,
do these crusades still.
242
00:12:18.648 --> 00:12:20.608
And so I had started pastoring,
243
00:12:20.608 --> 00:12:22.908
but I traveled out to do this crusade
244
00:12:22.908 --> 00:12:26.168
and it was in Nicaragua
245
00:12:26.168 --> 00:12:30.228
and I remember one of the days,
246
00:12:30.228 --> 00:12:33.088
because during the day we
would minister to the pastors
247
00:12:33.088 --> 00:12:36.328
and leaders that were, that had come.
248
00:12:36.328 --> 00:12:40.468
And so there was a bunch of
pastors that had come together
249
00:12:40.468 --> 00:12:45.468
and, and so I just said I,
250
00:12:45.689 --> 00:12:48.749
I just really felt like
that the Lord wanted me to,
251
00:12:48.749 --> 00:12:50.109
to speak into their lives
252
00:12:50.109 --> 00:12:53.509
and as I did, there was a woman that was on the front row
253
00:12:54.349 --> 00:12:58.229
and at the end of my sharing, she came up to me
254
00:12:58.229 --> 00:12:59.849
and she said, There was someone standing
255
00:12:59.849 --> 00:13:02.689
behind you the whole time
you were speaking. I said,
256
00:13:02.689 --> 00:13:06.109
Okay. Well, you know,
I've had people say things
257
00:13:06.109 --> 00:13:08.969
to me like there was a guy
in our church he'd seen a
258
00:13:08.969 --> 00:13:10.489
an angel behind me before.
259
00:13:11.469 --> 00:13:12.789
And so she said,
260
00:13:12.789 --> 00:13:14.829
and she said, The person was,
261
00:13:16.820 --> 00:13:21.369
um... She said, you handed out a book for all of us
262
00:13:21.369 --> 00:13:22.929
and when I turned the book over,
263
00:13:22.929 --> 00:13:25.169
it was the person on the
back of the book. Well,
264
00:13:25.169 --> 00:13:26.669
that was Billy Joe
265
00:13:26.669 --> 00:13:30.409
because I had, I had given
out some of his books.
266
00:13:30.409 --> 00:13:31.969
Your, your late husband.
267
00:13:31.969 --> 00:13:35.029
Yeah, my late husband. And I
had not said anything about
268
00:13:35.029 --> 00:13:36.969
his passing or anything.
269
00:13:36.969 --> 00:13:39.769
And so she said, But it
was the person on the back
270
00:13:39.769 --> 00:13:44.649
of the book and that I saw.
And so I said to my friend
271
00:13:44.649 --> 00:13:47.509
that was with me later, I said, You know,
272
00:13:47.509 --> 00:13:51.489
all I can say is Hebrews 12:1 says, We're surrounded
273
00:13:51.489 --> 00:13:52.949
by a great cloud of witnesses.
274
00:13:52.949 --> 00:13:56.009
I've always felt like that those witnesses are up in heaven
275
00:13:56.009 --> 00:13:57.629
away from us, far away from us,
276
00:13:57.629 --> 00:14:01.040
but, you know, they may be
closer than what we think.
277
00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:05.269
And so she said, I agree. And so then she shared
278
00:14:05.269 --> 00:14:10.189
with me a book she had been reading about how that sometimes
279
00:14:11.329 --> 00:14:14.150
people like that can, that have passed,
280
00:14:14.150 --> 00:14:16.010
that they can appear, you know?
281
00:14:16.010 --> 00:14:20.110
So I, you know, I thought,
well, I know I can't pray
282
00:14:20.110 --> 00:14:21.930
to the dead, you know,
or anything like that.
283
00:14:21.930 --> 00:14:24.710
Right. - I know that what the scripture says, but
284
00:14:26.370 --> 00:14:28.310
because I know sometimes people will say, Well,
285
00:14:28.310 --> 00:14:33.230
I still talk to my late husband or my late son or whatever.
286
00:14:33.230 --> 00:14:36.730
I still talk to them at times, at nighttime,
287
00:14:36.730 --> 00:14:39.550
but you know, that's not, that's not scriptural.
288
00:14:40.650 --> 00:14:44.570
We are to talk to Jesus because Jesus is our intercessory.
289
00:14:44.570 --> 00:14:47.750
He's the mediator between us and God.
290
00:14:47.750 --> 00:14:52.750
And so I had, I already knew that, but,
291
00:14:53.050 --> 00:14:56.650
but what that did was it, it
gave me an assurance that God,
292
00:14:56.650 --> 00:15:00.110
that heaven is working with us on the earth.
293
00:15:00.110 --> 00:15:02.470
It's closer than what we realize
294
00:15:02.470 --> 00:15:06.230
and that we don't need
to be afraid of heaven
295
00:15:06.230 --> 00:15:07.650
or afraid of experiences
296
00:15:07.650 --> 00:15:10.370
because God wants to give us his comfort.
297
00:15:10.370 --> 00:15:13.070
He wants to help us while
we're here on this earth.
298
00:15:13.070 --> 00:15:15.190
Wow. You know, Sharon
299
00:15:17.730 --> 00:15:22.710
can you share with us, you know, how God
300
00:15:22.710 --> 00:15:26.110
brought his comfort, his presence?
301
00:15:26.110 --> 00:15:28.250
Billy Joe wasn't that old.
302
00:15:28.250 --> 00:15:33.250
You guys shared years, decades of a rich, rich, rich,
303
00:15:33.290 --> 00:15:34.630
rich life together
304
00:15:35.611 --> 00:15:40.311
and how, how that he comforted
you and took care of you.
305
00:15:40.311 --> 00:15:43.711
Yeah. Just, just for somebody
that's probably listening
306
00:15:43.711 --> 00:15:46.891
and maybe you've lost somebody
307
00:15:46.891 --> 00:15:50.351
and you need to hear that God is faithful.
308
00:15:50.351 --> 00:15:52.311
Yeah. He is faithful.
309
00:15:53.531 --> 00:15:55.991
You know, my husband
had been so good to me
310
00:15:55.991 --> 00:16:00.991
and I think back of how from
that time when he passed,
311
00:16:01.031 --> 00:16:04.771
how God has, has been a husband to me
312
00:16:04.771 --> 00:16:05.971
and, you know, he has...
313
00:16:05.971 --> 00:16:08.391
In fact, that's what the
word of God tells us,
314
00:16:08.391 --> 00:16:11.251
that he'll be a husband to the widow
315
00:16:11.251 --> 00:16:15.031
and he has protected me,
he's delivered me, he's
316
00:16:15.031 --> 00:16:16.051
provided for me
317
00:16:16.891 --> 00:16:19.591
and I believe he'll do
the same for you, you
318
00:16:19.591 --> 00:16:21.451
that are watching right now.
319
00:16:21.451 --> 00:16:26.051
God tells us that he will, he
will surround us like a shield
320
00:16:26.051 --> 00:16:28.291
and he will deliver us from evil
321
00:16:28.291 --> 00:16:31.011
and if we're in trouble,
he'll, he'll get us out of
322
00:16:31.011 --> 00:16:35.211
that trouble and, you know,
when you read the Bible, it's
323
00:16:35.211 --> 00:16:39.111
so important that you read it
like a personal word to you.
324
00:16:39.111 --> 00:16:42.211
God wants to give you
a personal word today.
325
00:16:42.211 --> 00:16:44.991
He has a today word that he has for you
326
00:16:44.991 --> 00:16:48.451
and that is, is that he will
meet every need that you have.
327
00:16:48.451 --> 00:16:51.011
He supplies all of our needs
according to his riches
328
00:16:51.011 --> 00:16:54.371
and glory by Christ Jesus,
but he also is our defender.
329
00:16:55.291 --> 00:16:58.271
And I remember walking
through a situation one time
330
00:16:58.271 --> 00:17:01.331
years ago after I had been
pastoring for a season of time
331
00:17:01.331 --> 00:17:04.232
and, and I prayed.
332
00:17:04.232 --> 00:17:06.572
I said, Oh God, I wish Billy Jo was here
333
00:17:06.572 --> 00:17:08.912
because he could know what to do
334
00:17:08.912 --> 00:17:12.672
and how to handle this situation. It was a testing time
335
00:17:12.672 --> 00:17:16.452
and it was an attack of the devil against us.
336
00:17:16.452 --> 00:17:21.172
And so during that time I remember I prayed
337
00:17:21.172 --> 00:17:24.512
and I said, God, you know, I
need your help. And you know,
338
00:17:24.512 --> 00:17:25.752
he gave me that help.
339
00:17:25.752 --> 00:17:27.352
He gave me his grace.
340
00:17:27.352 --> 00:17:31.512
That grace is his divine
empowerment to do his will
341
00:17:31.512 --> 00:17:33.612
and it's the favor of God on
342
00:17:33.612 --> 00:17:35.352
our lives and his strength.
343
00:17:35.352 --> 00:17:40.052
And so he gave me that
and he spoke to my heart.
344
00:17:40.052 --> 00:17:43.872
He showed me what to say in
such situations I was in,
345
00:17:43.872 --> 00:17:47.912
but he was my defender and
he will defend the widow.
346
00:17:47.912 --> 00:17:51.092
He will, he will take care
of you and he will take -
347
00:17:51.092 --> 00:17:54.032
well, some of you are walking through tests right now:
348
00:17:54.032 --> 00:17:56.292
attacks against you.
349
00:17:56.292 --> 00:17:59.872
God says he's going to
surround you like a shield.
350
00:17:59.872 --> 00:18:03.092
He's going to deliver
you from that situation.
351
00:18:03.092 --> 00:18:06.212
You just have to trust in
him and trust is important
352
00:18:06.212 --> 00:18:10.492
because when we trust in him,
we put all of our, our weight
353
00:18:10.492 --> 00:18:11.552
of belief in him.
354
00:18:12.652 --> 00:18:15.332
And there was an old hymn
that a woman had written.
355
00:18:15.332 --> 00:18:17.932
She was, she, her husband had been killed.
356
00:18:17.932 --> 00:18:20.652
He had, he had reached out to save this boy
357
00:18:20.652 --> 00:18:22.632
that was drowning in the ocean
358
00:18:22.632 --> 00:18:26.952
and he ended up drowning with
the boy and she watched it.
359
00:18:26.952 --> 00:18:28.392
She and her little girl watched it
360
00:18:28.392 --> 00:18:32.393
and later she had, she couldn't work and,
361
00:18:32.393 --> 00:18:35.673
and she needed God's provision and so the Lord
362
00:18:35.673 --> 00:18:37.593
provided for her and
363
00:18:38.793 --> 00:18:42.853
one day she wrote this song - Tis So Sweet to trust
364
00:18:42.853 --> 00:18:45.893
in Jesus, just to take him at his word, just
365
00:18:45.893 --> 00:18:49.173
to rest upon his promise, just
to know thus sayeth the Lord.
366
00:18:50.033 --> 00:18:54.713
She found that as she began
to meditate on what the word
367
00:18:54.713 --> 00:18:59.153
of God says and it became
her help in her time of need.
368
00:18:59.153 --> 00:19:01.913
And so I think about things like that
369
00:19:01.913 --> 00:19:04.693
and how God comes to our aid.
370
00:19:04.693 --> 00:19:06.473
Many times we don't recognize it
371
00:19:06.473 --> 00:19:09.253
because we want it to, we
want to see it differently,
372
00:19:09.253 --> 00:19:12.413
but it's not always
packaged the way you think,
373
00:19:12.413 --> 00:19:14.413
but God always comes to our aid.
374
00:19:14.413 --> 00:19:16.653
He always helps us in our time of need.
375
00:19:17.793 --> 00:19:19.993
This is so sweet to me personally
376
00:19:19.993 --> 00:19:23.293
because Sharon has sung and sung and sung.
377
00:19:23.293 --> 00:19:27.033
I didn't say that about her, but she sung all over the world
378
00:19:27.033 --> 00:19:31.673
and she has albums and I sing
379
00:19:31.673 --> 00:19:36.673
and so I, I even think of songs as you're talking about
380
00:19:36.993 --> 00:19:39.653
in his eyes on the sparrow, Sharon - Yeah.
381
00:19:39.653 --> 00:19:43.753
And where it says, But when
I rest upon his goodness,
382
00:19:44.593 --> 00:19:48.473
the doubt and the fear goes away. Yeah,
383
00:19:48.473 --> 00:19:49.473
Yeah.
384
00:19:49.473 --> 00:19:54.154
And Sharon, would you
just look into that camera
385
00:19:54.154 --> 00:19:56.494
and would you just minister to those
386
00:19:58.014 --> 00:20:01.614
and those who have lost
387
00:20:02.514 --> 00:20:06.154
and that they need, they need to know
388
00:20:06.154 --> 00:20:08.374
that he's faithful - that's right -
389
00:20:08.374 --> 00:20:12.494
and how he's taken care of you
Yes. Did you pray for them?
390
00:20:12.494 --> 00:20:14.534
Yes. And those of you that are struggling
391
00:20:14.534 --> 00:20:17.854
with fear right now, we
bind that spirit of fear.
392
00:20:17.854 --> 00:20:20.194
It's a spirit that's tried to come at you
393
00:20:20.194 --> 00:20:21.714
and we bind that spirit
394
00:20:21.714 --> 00:20:24.040
and we lose the power of the Holy Spirit
395
00:20:24.040 --> 00:20:27.254
to prevail and overshadow your life
396
00:20:27.254 --> 00:20:28.674
because the Holy Spirit will give you
397
00:20:28.674 --> 00:20:30.920
what you need in the name of Jesus.
398
00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:34.414
Father, I pray right now for
my brother, for my sister
399
00:20:34.414 --> 00:20:37.394
that's watching, I pray
for you to minister to them
400
00:20:37.394 --> 00:20:40.334
your peace that passes
human understanding,
401
00:20:40.334 --> 00:20:43.434
to keep their heart and
their mind in Christ Jesus.
402
00:20:43.434 --> 00:20:45.694
I pray, Lord, that you would comfort
403
00:20:45.694 --> 00:20:47.354
them, you would strengthen them.
404
00:20:47.354 --> 00:20:50.434
I pray, Father, for you
to help them in this time
405
00:20:50.434 --> 00:20:54.134
that they're walking through
I pray, Lord, assure them
406
00:20:54.134 --> 00:20:55.880
that they are not alone - Amen.
407
00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:57.594
That you are with them, that you're
408
00:20:57.594 --> 00:20:59.114
gonna see them through it.
409
00:20:59.114 --> 00:21:00.554
Amen. And you're gonna make a way
410
00:21:00.554 --> 00:21:02.654
for them in the name of Jesus.
411
00:21:02.654 --> 00:21:05.174
We pray this and we believe. Amen.
412
00:21:05.174 --> 00:21:10.174
Amen. Amen. Sharon,
thank you so much. Amen.
413
00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.214
So much. And,
414
00:21:12.214 --> 00:21:16.194
and everything that she said, it,
415
00:21:16.194 --> 00:21:17.734
it's not a myth.
416
00:21:17.734 --> 00:21:20.835
It's not - was something special for her,
417
00:21:20.835 --> 00:21:22.615
but it's not for you.
418
00:21:22.615 --> 00:21:24.755
Absolutely it's for you.
419
00:21:24.755 --> 00:21:27.975
That's right. And I love this about Jesus
420
00:21:28.815 --> 00:21:32.715
and it said, Jesus said that his father,
421
00:21:32.715 --> 00:21:34.515
he was talking about God,
422
00:21:34.515 --> 00:21:37.435
he sees when even a
sparrow falls from a tree.
423
00:21:37.435 --> 00:21:39.915
That's right. How much more
does he care about you?
424
00:21:40.875 --> 00:21:45.015
And, and so I know as the
Holy Spirit's touching you,
425
00:21:45.015 --> 00:21:48.075
just let him touch you and
426
00:21:48.075 --> 00:21:53.075
to hold you in his arms and say, You're gonna be okay.
427
00:21:53.335 --> 00:21:54.335
Yeah.
428
00:21:54.335 --> 00:21:57.015
Or maybe he'll hear him
say, I've got this.
429
00:21:57.015 --> 00:22:00.495
You can lean your head upon my
430
00:22:00.495 --> 00:22:02.255
shoulder. Yeah.
431
00:22:02.255 --> 00:22:05.555
I am there for you. I'll never leave you.
432
00:22:05.555 --> 00:22:07.360
I'll never forsake you.
433
00:22:07.360 --> 00:22:10.535
And this didn't take me by surprise.
434
00:22:10.535 --> 00:22:15.535
So I believe, Sharon, I
believe that this program was
435
00:22:15.755 --> 00:22:19.055
specifically designed for some people
436
00:22:19.055 --> 00:22:21.235
who watched this today - Yeah.
437
00:22:21.235 --> 00:22:23.035
For comfort to them.
438
00:22:23.035 --> 00:22:26.735
Amen. And Sharon, thank you for sharing.
439
00:22:26.735 --> 00:22:30.475
I mean, we could've
talked a lot longer. Yeah.
440
00:22:30.475 --> 00:22:32.655
But I'm so grateful
441
00:22:32.655 --> 00:22:36.035
because every word that
came out of your mouth
442
00:22:36.035 --> 00:22:38.555
carried his love and his peace.
443
00:22:38.555 --> 00:22:43.255
Amen. Thank you. So we love you. Now stay with us.
444
00:22:43.255 --> 00:22:45.916
We're coming right back and we're gonna pray for you.
445
00:22:46.836 --> 00:22:48.996
Never underestimate a testimony.
446
00:22:48.996 --> 00:22:53.156
When shared, a personal experience of Jesus' love, power
447
00:22:53.156 --> 00:22:56.596
or provision can open
hearts, strengthen faith,
448
00:22:56.596 --> 00:22:58.816
and encourage fellow believers.
449
00:22:58.816 --> 00:23:02.056
In - Five Wonderful, Powerful, Anointed Women,
450
00:23:02.056 --> 00:23:05.396
Denise welcomes a dynamic lineup of godly women
451
00:23:05.396 --> 00:23:08.536
to encourage you with their
inspiring, instructive,
452
00:23:08.536 --> 00:23:11.156
and sometimes shocking experiences.
453
00:23:11.156 --> 00:23:13.656
As you listen to this five-part series,
454
00:23:13.656 --> 00:23:17.356
you will gain insights about obedience in everyday
455
00:23:17.356 --> 00:23:19.776
evangelism, physical
456
00:23:19.776 --> 00:23:23.376
and spiritual effects of
words, and so much more.
457
00:23:23.376 --> 00:23:25.696
This beautiful series
is available in digital
458
00:23:25.696 --> 00:23:27.960
and physical formats,
starting at just $11.
459
00:23:29.196 --> 00:23:30.716
This is the wonderful chance
460
00:23:30.716 --> 00:23:32.796
to let these anointed women pour their
461
00:23:32.796 --> 00:23:34.896
wisdom into your life.
462
00:23:34.896 --> 00:23:38.356
In addition, check out the
Powerful Voices Collection
463
00:23:38.356 --> 00:23:40.316
and dig into the amazing stories
464
00:23:40.316 --> 00:23:43.836
and lessons contained in Denise's guest's books available
465
00:23:43.836 --> 00:23:46.160
individually with prices starting at $16.
466
00:23:48.196 --> 00:23:51.476
You can order the series Five Wonderful, Powerful,
467
00:23:51.476 --> 00:23:54.756
Anointed Women and any book in the Powerful Voices
468
00:23:54.756 --> 00:23:58.276
Collection by going online or calling our team.
469
00:23:58.276 --> 00:24:01.776
Call the number on your
screen or scan the QR code.
470
00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.016
Well, Sharon, I just thank you so much.
471
00:24:06.016 --> 00:24:08.897
I'm so thankful for your book.
472
00:24:08.897 --> 00:24:12.517
And you know, I'm hearing these words that you need
473
00:24:12.517 --> 00:24:16.177
to hear from somebody who's already been through it
474
00:24:17.257 --> 00:24:21.257
because when you hear somebody's testimony how they've been
475
00:24:21.257 --> 00:24:24.357
through it, you can grab courage
476
00:24:24.357 --> 00:24:26.817
and strength for your race.
477
00:24:26.817 --> 00:24:30.657
That's right - It's so powerful in so many ways,
478
00:24:30.657 --> 00:24:35.057
but Sharon, I do really believe as people read this book
479
00:24:35.057 --> 00:24:38.137
The Draw of Heaven - I really believe
480
00:24:38.137 --> 00:24:41.017
that Heaven is gonna come bring comfort to them.
481
00:24:41.017 --> 00:24:44.757
That's right. There's a draw on all of our lives.
482
00:24:44.757 --> 00:24:47.997
There's a draw for us to spend time with God.
483
00:24:47.997 --> 00:24:50.237
There's a draw on us to get right with God.
484
00:24:50.237 --> 00:24:54.337
There's a draw on us to repent of sin at times.
485
00:24:54.337 --> 00:24:57.197
There's a draw on our lives to recognize
486
00:24:57.197 --> 00:25:00.237
that his presence is there
with us all the time.
487
00:25:00.237 --> 00:25:02.817
So good. And his presence is with you
488
00:25:02.817 --> 00:25:05.537
and he wants to work
supernaturally in your
489
00:25:05.537 --> 00:25:07.417
life as you believe.
490
00:25:07.417 --> 00:25:09.797
So I wanna encourage
you to trust in the Lord
491
00:25:09.797 --> 00:25:13.957
with all your heart and
don't let your mind run away
492
00:25:14.877 --> 00:25:18.037
and, and think thoughts that are negative.
493
00:25:18.937 --> 00:25:23.857
Keep your focus on God's word.
This Bible is so important.
494
00:25:23.857 --> 00:25:27.357
Your word, the time you spend
in the word of God is going
495
00:25:27.357 --> 00:25:31.817
to put you over and it won't let you down.
496
00:25:31.817 --> 00:25:35.978
No, no. Not one, not one word will fail.
497
00:25:35.978 --> 00:25:39.058
That's right. It will prosper where it goes. That's
498
00:25:39.058 --> 00:25:40.058
Right.
499
00:25:40.058 --> 00:25:43.778
And that's the soil of
our heart. Yeah. Yes.
500
00:25:43.778 --> 00:25:46.758
Well, thank you so much for being with us.
501
00:25:46.758 --> 00:25:50.438
You've heard from Five Wonderful, Anointed,
502
00:25:50.438 --> 00:25:54.838
Powerful Women and thank you for being with us.
503
00:25:54.838 --> 00:25:56.418
Sharon, thank you.
504
00:25:56.418 --> 00:25:58.598
Thank you. I really appreciate it.
505
00:25:59.498 --> 00:26:03.818
And I love you all. God's working.
506
00:26:03.818 --> 00:26:05.598
Amen. - Don't Ever doubt it.
507
00:26:05.598 --> 00:26:10.018
Never. If you've never received Jesus as your savior
508
00:26:10.018 --> 00:26:12.938
and Lord, now is the time for you
509
00:26:12.938 --> 00:26:17.378
to experience a new life
Jesus has to give you.
510
00:26:17.378 --> 00:26:19.838
Pray this prayer with me right now.
511
00:26:20.858 --> 00:26:23.698
Lord, I repent of my sin
512
00:26:23.698 --> 00:26:27.598
and receive you as my savior and Lord.
513
00:26:27.598 --> 00:26:32.198
Wash away my sin and make me completely new.
514
00:26:32.198 --> 00:26:34.678
I thank you that my sin is removed
515
00:26:34.678 --> 00:26:38.938
and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
516
00:26:39.958 --> 00:26:44.798
I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
517
00:26:44.798 --> 00:26:47.438
for the rest of my life.
518
00:26:47.438 --> 00:26:48.438
Amen.
519
00:26:59.339 --> 00:27:01.199
Perhaps I have to do another test.
520
00:27:02.459 --> 00:27:05.299
The only thing to do is to wait.
521
00:27:08.339 --> 00:27:12.079
I wish things had gone another way. I want to be healthy.
522
00:27:14.179 --> 00:27:18.459
If there is no one to support you, don't give up.
523
00:27:18.459 --> 00:27:21.579
Just contact us choosing your available way.
524
00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:23.339
We're waiting for your call, willing
525
00:27:23.339 --> 00:27:24.559
to give you prayer support.
526
00:27:33.379 --> 00:27:36.279
If two of you shall agree on
earth as touching anything
527
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:39.419
that they shall ask, it
shall be done for them
528
00:27:39.419 --> 00:27:41.259
of my Father, which is in heaven.
529
00:27:44.639 --> 00:27:47.859
Denise Renner is a mentor
to women, an author,
530
00:27:47.859 --> 00:27:50.399
and a classically trained vocalist.
531
00:27:50.399 --> 00:27:51.879
With television, satellite,
532
00:27:51.879 --> 00:27:55.039
and internet platforms
combined, the ministry of Rick
533
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:58.779
and Denise Renner reaches a
potential worldwide audience
534
00:27:58.779 --> 00:28:00.539
in the millions.
535
00:28:00.539 --> 00:28:05.539
We invite you to partner with
us in teaching, strengthening,
536
00:28:05.539 --> 00:28:08.519
and rescuing lives for the glory of God.
537
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.399
Discover the many ways you can
help us make a difference in
538
00:28:11.399 --> 00:28:14.779
lives around the world
with the word of God.
539
00:28:14.779 --> 00:28:16.499
Together, we can make a difference
540
00:28:16.499 --> 00:28:18.299
that will last throughout eternity.