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of the God called partners of Renner Ministries.

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Get ready for a teaching
that feeds your spirit

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and your mind where the
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uncertain times

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and doctrine doesn't bend to culture.

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We keep it simple,

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but dive deep revealing a
truth that strengthens us,

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a love that emboldens,

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and a mission that touches the world.

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Let's join Rick Renner.

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<v ->Hey friends, this is Rick Renner.</v>

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Have you been waiting for me?
I have been waiting for you.

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And today, not just me, it's me and Denise

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and Nancy Dufresne. And we're so glad you're with

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us.

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I am so thrilled to be here.

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<v ->We're having a good time.</v>
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<v ->You know, even in our
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we're just talking about the word of God

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and what God is doing.

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<v ->Absolutely. - And thank you for joining us.</v>

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<v ->Thank you for having me.</v>

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<v ->And thank you for joining us.</v>

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We're so glad that you're with us.

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And we really believe in the ministry of Nancy Dufresne.

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And by the way, if you're
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to support, Nancy's is a
good ministry to support.

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It's really affecting
lives all over the world.

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We are partners with Nancy's ministry.

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We believe in it, and

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that's why we want you to know her better.

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But we want you to get the series which we're offering you

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this week, which is called The Divine Healer.

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It comes with a study guide

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because as I always tell you, we believe

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that when you read the
material while you're seeing

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or hearing the series,
it has a double impact.

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It really causes the revelation to get down deep inside you.

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And we want you to get Nancy's book

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that I read from cover to cover.

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It is so easy to read.

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I learned something about the 10 lepers.

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<v ->Good. - I was shocked when I read this book.</v>

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I thought, why have I never seen that in my life?

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And I know you're gonna
get a lot out of this.

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And it's called - The Healer Divine.

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And it's a study of the healings of Jesus.

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It's so easy to read

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and it will really do something marvelous in your life.

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So we want you to order all these things by going online

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or by giving us a call.

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And when you reach out, let
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We are told in 1 John 5,

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that if we pray anything according to the will of God,

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he hears us.

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We know how to pray scripturally.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
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to pray, we know how to pray.

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So you reach out to us

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and with you, we will pray
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And Jesus will do what needs to be done.

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But we'll be more effective in praying

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for you if you let us know how to pray.

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So call the number on the
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and we will immediately
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But reach for your Bible

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because we use the Bible in this program

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and reach for a piece
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Get ready to take notes.

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And Nancy, let's get started.
What are we gonna do?

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<v ->Well, we started looking
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3 John and 1:2, where John said,

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Beloved, I wish above all things thou mayest

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prosper and be in health.

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That is so powerful. But look at that.

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And then he doesn't leave out the next phrase - even

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as your soul. He's interested in the thought life,

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the peace of the mind, as
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peace and provision.

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<v ->So when you talk about</v>
<v ->Peace, the</v>

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<v ->Soul, you're talking about the mind.</v>

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<v ->You are talking about the mind.</v>

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And so notice

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that our health is connected
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Our prosperity is connected
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If we think wrong, listen,
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or have the door open to our
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<v ->Can I give an example of that?</v>

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<v ->Sure. Do we,</v>
<v ->When we were all younger,</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->People thought older
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when people hit 60.

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<v ->Yes. - They looked like they were 60.</v>

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<v ->Didn't they though? They looked</v>

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<v ->Yes. I don't remember. I remember</v>

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<v ->When my grandmother was 65.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
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because people thought
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The thinking is now changing.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
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<v ->Look how young we look.</v>
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<v ->Think the thinking</v>
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<v ->Changed. Yeah.</v>

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<v ->And how a man thinks in his heart.</v>

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<v ->So is he.</v>
<v ->That's the way that he is.</v>

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<v ->That's the way he'll
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<v ->How you think about health</v>

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and healing really has an impact on your

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health and on your healing.

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<v ->You know Kenneth? Oh, excuse me. Go.</v>

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<v ->No, I was okay. I'm just
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<v ->Kenneth Hagin was the spiritual father to my husband</v>

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and I for decades before he
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He records in one of his books
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It under the chapter called the Hospital Visitor. Dad,

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Hagin, as a young man, had
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Jesus walked into his hospital room

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And I've been preaching on this lately.

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Jesus said, it is my best

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No.1: ever be sick.

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No.2: never be operated on.

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And No.3, never have any accidents.

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See, we, we need to
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because we see so much other
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if I could say this,
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But then Jesus said, he said, very few

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of my children live in my best

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because he said, No.1: they, they don't know

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what belongs to them
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he said they haven't developed their faith to receive it.

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Or No.3: they're in disobedience.

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And so that opens the door
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The No.1 way the devil gains entrance

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to attack us is the wrong thinking.

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And God cannot work
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He can only work through right thinking.

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<v ->Can you give us an example of wrong thinking?</v>

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<v ->Well, what about this - wrong teaching:</v>

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that if someone is taught

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that God's trying to teach him
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but that's not God's way of teaching.

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His way of teaching is his word, not through hardship.

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adopt a way of thinking.

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They decide that God has this
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to the word to find out.

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taking on God's way of thinking.

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So that we lay down human thinking,

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we lay down human reasoning to find out what the word

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say and think based on what the word says.

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We know this, the words that God said,

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my thoughts are higher than your thoughts.

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My ways are higher than your ways.

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He's not just showing us the difference

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that mine are high in yours or low.

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He's, he's inviting us. Come up,

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<v ->Come up.</v>

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<v ->Come up in the way you think.</v>

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they embrace a way of thinking

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that's different than the word of God,

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it's gonna trouble their life.

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And the devil can only work
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<v ->You know, when I was growing up</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->About sickness.</v>
<v ->Sure.</v>

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<v ->We thought that God sent it.</v>

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And rather than prayed to be
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for the grace to accept it,

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that we could glorify God in our sickness.

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That's really the way that we prayed. And we

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<v ->Believed it.</v>

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<v ->And when you pray wrong</v>

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and believe wrong, it
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to come in like a flood.

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<v ->Absolutely. - And we had to learn how to think right.</v>

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And for me, a major verse was James 1:17 -

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Every good and perfect gift is from above.

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That's what comes from above.

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if it's not good, if it's not perfecting,

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if it's not putting me on an upward trajectory

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<v ->Then it fails the test.
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And I had to really run to James one 17

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and put it in me, say it to
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Every good imperfect gift is from above.

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Every good imperfect gift is from above.

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Until finally my mind
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<v ->And you ran out wrong thinking.</v>

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<v ->That's correct.</v>
<v ->You have to run it out. It out.</v>

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<v ->I like</v>
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ignorance to work his plan.

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You know, Hosea 4:6 says, My people -

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God speaking: my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

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So notice the devil's not mentioned in there.

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It's wrong thinking.

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The devil can only work through ignorance.

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And he's counting on our
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<v ->And actually when you know the word of God,</v>

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you pull the plug on the devil.

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He doesn't have much ability to work in our

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<v ->If you think right, and
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you can keep the devil
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<v ->And wrong thinking, not only
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but it closes the door to God.

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<v ->Oh, say that</v>
<v ->Again. It it does the,</v>

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the wrong thinking opens
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but it closes the door to God.

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So we choose through our thought life

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who we're giving entrance to in our lives.

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And in thinking about, I've said, Dad Hagin,

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Kenneth Hagin was our spiritual father.

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Many may ha may know the testimony of

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Brother Hagin: born with incurable heart condition, born

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with deformed throughout
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born with a blood disease.

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Any one of those things would
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the age of, at the age of 15, ended up on his deathbed.

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God saved the day he was
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And God began dealing with
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but he began dealing with
him about wrong thinking

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because he knew that if he
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the devil had unhindered
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And so when Brother Hagin is a
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death bed, God began to deal

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with him when he read Matthew 6:25,

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when Jesus said, take no thought for your life,

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what you shall put on, what you shall eat.

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And he saw that really God was dealing

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with him about the sin of worry.

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And worry is - it's the offspring of fear.

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When fear and doubt get together,

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they have an offspring called worry.

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And worry.

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<v ->Say it again. - When fear and</v>

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and doubt get together,
they have an offspring.

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Fear, the father: doubt, the mother

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and their offspring is worry

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<v ->Is worry. That's</v>

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powerful.

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How - and Dad Hagin taught us this -

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how do you know if you're

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worrying - if you're thinking about it?

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And so that really causes you

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to pay attention to your thought life.

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What are you thinking about?

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Because so many people
live, if I could say this,

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mindless toward what they're allowing

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to go on in their thought life.

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And this is the first
place that Brother Hagen

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as a young man on his
deathbed, God started dealing

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with him about his thought life.

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He did not even know

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that healing was available at this time.

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He thought he had to die.

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And God did not start bringing

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to him the light on divine healing

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until he first started
dealing with his thought life:

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running out the sin of worry.

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Because Brother Hagen talked
about that through his,

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his mother and his grandmother,

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he said they were world champion warriors

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and they taught him to worry.

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And so he was a worrier.

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He said, I didn't know what was wrong

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with me on my deathbed.

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He said I was worrying
myself half to death.

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And he said, God began dealing

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with me about the sin of worry.

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Brother Hagin also talked about

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that he was having anywhere from five

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to eight heart attacks a
day laying on that deathbed.

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And he said, I would grab
hold of the headboard,

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you know the - posts in that headboard.

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And he said one of those
heart attacks would come.

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And he says, I was hanging on
to that trying to stay alive.

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And he said one day he
said, God began in dealing

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with me about Matthew 6

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and said, you've got to stop the sin of worry.

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And so he said, God - I can't quit worrying.

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I've worried my whole life.

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And God wouldn't let him get by with that -

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based on the word,

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you can cast your care on
me. I will take care of it.

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But you've got to get
it out of your hands.

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So one day

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after God had dealt with
him for months, he said,

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God, I commit to you.

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I choose not to worry
again. And it was a choice.

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So he committed to God,

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I'm not gonna worry about my body anymore.

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If we worry about our bodies,
we open the door to sickness.

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We think about the
condition, the symptoms.

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That doesn't mean be mindless
toward what's attacking you.

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It means that you're gonna
cast the care over on God,

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but you're still gonna exercise your faith in what God says.

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We cast our care, but not our faith.

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<v ->Nancy, when I was a young man, Denise</v>

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and I had just gotten married

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and I thought that worrying
was being responsible.

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<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->That</v>

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<v ->If you're</v>
<v ->Not worried about anything,</v>

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<v ->You're</v>
<v ->Being irresponsible.</v>

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<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->I was so eaten up with worry</v>

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that I ended up in the hospital receiving

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bags and bags of blood

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because I had a bleeding ulcer.

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<v ->Wow. - And the doctor
said on the side of my bed,</v>

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I was either 23 or 24, he said, Rick,

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you cannot live your life like this.

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Yeah. And that's when I turned to Philippians 4:

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6, which says - Be careful for nothing.

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The Greek says - don't worry about anything.

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That means absolutely nothing at all.

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And I remember thinking - how can you live life

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and not ever worry about anything?

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But I had to repent of worry

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and you know what? You have to repent of it

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because it is a sin.

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Because a Jesus said, don't do it.

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And anytime we do it, it's a sin and

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<v ->It's a habit.</v>

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<v ->Can I say it's a bad mental habit?</v>

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<v ->It it's a habit. And you
gotta break that habit. You,</v>

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<v ->I won't talk about that
habit thing because habit.</v>

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Yeah. You, it's natural.
It becomes natural.

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It becomes who you are.
It's your identity.

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And breaking outta that
habit, like you said, we have

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to repent, we have to
recognize this is wrong.

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This is stealing from my life.

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This is affecting my relationship. And

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<v ->It adds nothing to your life.</v>

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<v ->And it adds nothing to my life.</v>

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<v ->It nothing. And it
doesn't change anything.</v>

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<v ->You know? But that repenting, that's big deal to see</v>

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that I'm wrong and God you're right.

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<v ->And there again, you
have to pay attention to</v>

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what you're allowing yourself to think on.

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You can be thinking on something for a week

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or two worrying about it
and not realize you're

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doing it. And it's a habit.

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<v ->Well, for me, I had to replace the worry with something</v>

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else. - Yes you do.

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<v ->Because worry was such
a big part of my life.</v>

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So I had to replace it
with the rest of the verse.

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But in everything, by prayer

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and supplication of thanksgiving,

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let your request be made known unto God.

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So when I repented of worry,
well what was I gonna do

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with that part of my life?

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Because it was, that was
a big part of my life.

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I had to fill it with prayer,

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thanksgiving, supplication.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->I had to replace that worry</v>

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with something positive.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->A different way of thinking.</v>

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<v ->Well, and the word says,</v>

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casting all your care on him.

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What's that mean? Put it in his hands.

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If you're not gonna worry about something

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'cause there's very real
situations in people's

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lives.

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<v ->Absolutely. - And so we're not mindless</v>

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that this needs divine help.

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<v ->It needs attention.</v>
<v ->It needs attention.</v>

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But his attention, not
the attention of worry.

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You know when, when I was,
when I was growing up,

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I like jewelry brother Rick.

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I like, I like jewels.

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And so one day I was about eight years old

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and the neighbors, you know,

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in our little town in southwest Oklahoma, there wasn't much

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to do as a farming community.

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And they came to my house one day

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and they said to my mom, they
said, Carolyn, we're gonna go

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to the carnival in town.

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Would Nancy like to come?
And I said, I would.

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Mother said, okay, yeah, she can go.

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And so mother gave me a quarter, 25 cents

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to spend at the Carnival war.

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I wasn't interested in a ride.

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I was interested in the jewelry

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booth: you know, it was fine

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jewelry at the carnival. Absolutely.

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<v ->You know, it was fine jewelry,</v>

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<v ->Fine jewelry.</v>

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So I went up to that, that jewelry booth,

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and I laid my quarter up there

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and I said to the man,

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I have a quarter, what will that get me?

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Just whatever will get
me. That's what I want.

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And he, you know, unrolled off his spool

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of chain, a necklace and leaf for necklace

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and put a charm on it.

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Oh, I loved that thing. I wore
it all day. I slept in it.

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You know, I didn't take
it off for weeks, but

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because it was so fine,
the links were so fine,

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they got knotted up.

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And one day I was, I had taken it off

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and I was trying to get the knots out

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and my way of getting 'em out was pull on

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that chain and destroy it.

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So I was tightening it.

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So mother walked in in the midst of that

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and she said, what are you doing?

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And I said, I'm getting the knots out.

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She said, that's not getting them out.

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That's putting them in worry is not

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fixing it, it's making it worse. That is a

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great example.

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<v ->And so she said, if you will
hand it to me, I'll fix it.</v>

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So she took a straight pen
and she, little by little,

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and I probably had like eight
to 10 knots in this chain.

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And she worked 'em loose one at a time.

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And I saw her working on
the very last one, you know,

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and I saw that it was coming loose

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and I wanted to finish it.

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I was so excited. You know,
when you're a kid, you want

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to be part of the fix.

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Right? Right. So I wanted to finish it.

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I took it back and I said,
give it to me, I'll finish it.

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And so I took it back

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and my way of fixing it was jerking on it.

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Yes. And so she in
discuss, just stood there

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and watched me put a knot back in it

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because I was fixing it the wrong way.

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I thought I was fixing it. Yes.

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And so she watched me
get the knot back in it,

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and she handed, she put out her hand

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and she said, if you
will put it in my hand

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and leave it there, I can finish it.

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But if you're gonna take
it back, I can't finish it.

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And that's what it means when God says,

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casting all your care in my hands

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and I'll work on it.

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How do you know if it's back in your

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hands and out of his hands?

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Worry is a sign

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you've taken it back out of his hands

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and put it into your hands.

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And worry is a bad habit.

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<v ->You're putting a knot back</v>

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in it.

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<v ->You're putting a knot back in it.</v>

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Listen, all we are good at
doing in ourselves is putting

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knots in our life.

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If we just let him go to
work, he get his power,

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his ability undoes it.

461
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Now if we put the habit
of worry in our life,

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the devil will energize it.

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He can't make us worry.

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But if we put a bad habit in place,

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he will certainly energize
that and it will torment you.

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<v ->I think that is one of
the best illustrations I've</v>

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ever heard in my life.

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<v ->Well, going back to what Dad Hagin said,</v>

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remember on the deathbed he was having 5

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to 8 heart attacks a day

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and God had been dealing with him - You've got

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to get rid of this sin of worry.

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He said he had worn all the varnish off

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that headboard trying
to hang on in the midst

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of a heart attack to stay alive.

476
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Oh, he was worried he was gonna die.

477
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Well wouldn't you naturally have that response?

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And he said, I held on

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and he said, once I committed to God,

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God I'll never worry again.

481
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And he said right after
that he had a heart attack.

482
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And he said, I went to grab hold.

483
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And he said, I realize now,
see, this is the skill of,

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this is the skill of renewed mind.

485
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He says, I recognized that me hold going

486
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to hold on was an act of worry -

487
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worrying about dying.

488
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And he said, so I let go that day.

489
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And he said, I won't even hold on.

490
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I'm not going to worry and
try to hang on to life.

491
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And he said, I let go of it.

492
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And he said, I never had
another heart attack on

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that deathbed after I let go,

494
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after he got rid of that action of worry.

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<v ->Worry was keeping it open</v>

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<v ->It was the open door</v>

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to that heart attack on his life - Exactly. - In

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the last minute, how does that translate

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to our friends at home that are worried?

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<v ->First of all, you have to have the skill.</v>

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He recognized an action of worry

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calling on - calling your children all the time.

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Where are you at? What are you doing?

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Yes, we should be responsible parents.

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But are you doing it based on fear?

506
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Anything that comes
out of a place of fear,

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worry is the offspring of fear.

508
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And you have to learn to recognize.

509
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And so much of the time, brother Rick, fear has become a way

510
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of life that they don't even
recognize that it's operating.

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And so that's the first key

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to running worry out - is recognize

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what is not faith and what is fear.

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And you have to answer it.

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And you say - God's not given me the spirit of fear

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but of power, love, and of a sound mind.

517
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And I refuse to have a troubled mind.

518
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How do you know if you're worrying?

519
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Any thought that doesn't arrive you at peace

520
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and joy? You're to cast down.

521
00:20:43.590 --> 00:20:44.590
<v ->Nancy,</v>

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this is tremendous.

523
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<v ->It's listen, everyone has a mind</v>

524
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and we wanna have a mind we can live with.

525
00:20:49.750 --> 00:20:51.880
<v ->And I like what you
said earlier yesterday.</v>

526
00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.430
You said, everywhere you
go, you take your mind with,

527
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<v ->You can't get away from it.</v>

528
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<v ->So you better, you better
get a grip on your mind.</v>

529
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This is so good.

530
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And when we come back tomorrow,

531
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we're gonna pick up right here,

532
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but we'll be back in just a moment.

533
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Someone asked the question - Brother Rick,

534
00:21:16.120 --> 00:21:20.020
what is the difference between
a healing and a miracle?

535
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Well, they're not the same thing.

536
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In fact, if you read 1 Corinthians 12:9,

537
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it lists the gifts of healing.

538
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And then in the next verse,
it lists the gift of miracles.

539
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So obviously, they're not the same thing.

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A miracle is something that
takes place instantaneously.

541
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It is miraculous. It overrides
the laws of human nature.

542
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God does in one moment

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what normally would take
a long time to be done.

544
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But the word healing is from the Greek word iaomai,

545
00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:51.670
which is the same word
which was used in Greek

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to describe a physical doctor.

547
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So you have to think about a doctor.

548
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If you go to the doctor,
he gives you medication,

549
00:21:57.580 --> 00:22:00.310
but you don't expect the medication to instantly heal you

550
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but you believe that if you
keep taking the medication

551
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progressively over a period of time,

552
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it will reverse your condition
and you'll become well.

553
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So a healing is a divine
power which heals over a

554
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period of time.

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So a miracle is instantaneous,
it overrides nature.

556
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And a healing is something which miraculously occurs over a

557
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period of time.

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<v ->2nd Timothy 1:7 says, God has not given us a spirit</v>

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of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

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For believers, this means peace should be a lifestyle.

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We must fill our mind and
spirit with the word of God

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and allow it to dictate the way we live.

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Join Rick and Denise Renner with special guest

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Align your thoughts with God's thoughts:

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You won't wanna miss the opportunity

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575
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and experience the peace they bring.

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In addition to this teaching series,

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we are offering you the book, the Healer Divine: A Study

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of the Healings of Jesus by Nancy Dufresne,

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which explores the miracles
of Jesus' healing ministry.

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You will walk away from this book encouraged to dig deep

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and study the healing miracles described

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throughout the word of God.

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Call or go online now.

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<v ->Hey, this is Rick
Renner and I am in Tulsa.</v>

590
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And look who's with me.

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This is part of our Tulsa staff. Around the whole world,

592
00:24:03.710 --> 00:24:07.880
we have about 300 employees that work in this ministry

593
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:09.740
and that is amazing to me.

594
00:24:09.740 --> 00:24:11.720
Just look what the Lord has done

595
00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:14.300
and we're reaching people all
over the world in our various

596
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offices, but this is the
Tulsa team and they are heroes

597
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and they work every day in this building to minister to you

598
00:24:22.610 --> 00:24:24.020
by sending you resources,

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00:24:24.020 --> 00:24:26.810
taking your calls, praying for you.

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And we're praying people, aren't we?

601
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Yes, we really are praying people,

602
00:24:31.040 --> 00:24:34.310
but God gave us this facility

603
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and we're trying to pay it off.

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And now we've already paid off 87%.

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We called the Ministry Expansion Project

606
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because once we're finished
paying this debt off,

607
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it's gonna free finances so we
can take the trusted teaching

608
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to the Bible even further
to the ends of the earth.

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And that's our call.

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00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.270 line:15% 
And if you're already a
member of the Giving Team

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to help us retire the debt
on this building, I just want

612
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to say thank you and we
all say thank you to you.

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00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:05.150 line:15% 
And if you're not a part
of the Giving Team yet,

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I invite you today to join our Giving Team

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to help us retire the debt.

616
00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.060 line:15% 
It's really not about retiring the debt,

617
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it's about releasing finances

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so we can take the trusted
teaching of the Bible

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to more people that are crying out for it.

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So thank you for being a part of the team

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and please pray about joining our ministry team

622
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to retire the debt on this facility.

623
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Well, this has really been good

624
00:25:40.100 --> 00:25:41.330
today. We've been talking about how

625
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to get the knots out of your life.

626
00:25:44.300 --> 00:25:47.360 line:15% 
We're talking about fear, worry, anxiety,

627
00:25:47.360 --> 00:25:49.670 line:15% 
and those things really are hindrances

628
00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:52.880 line:15% 
to you receiving your
health and your healing.

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And my friends, we want you
to get the whole series,

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which is called The Divine Healer.

631
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It's me, Denise, and Nancy Dufresne

632
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and we're so blessed to be with Nancy.

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And we want you to get the
study guide that goes with it.

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And please get Nancy's book,

635
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which is called, The Healer Divine.

636
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It is just tremendous.

637
00:26:10.700 --> 00:26:13.370 line:15% 
But friend God has so much for you,

638
00:26:13.370 --> 00:26:17.210 line:15% 
but for his blessings to really be released in your life,

639
00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:21.020
you've gotta get your mind into alignment with your spirit.

640
00:26:21.020 --> 00:26:23.750
You're filled with every good thing.

641
00:26:23.750 --> 00:26:25.670
When the Holy Spirit came
into you at the new birth,

642
00:26:25.670 --> 00:26:27.230
he brought health, he brought healing,

643
00:26:27.230 --> 00:26:31.760
he brought everything you need, but your mind can block it.

644
00:26:31.760 --> 00:26:34.700
So you gotta get your mind into agreement with the truth,

645
00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:38.390
and it opens the door for
all those good things in you

646
00:26:38.390 --> 00:26:40.730
to begin to flow into your life.

647
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And that's what we're
talking about this week.

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But please, if you want to
order these things, go online

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or give us a call and let
us know how to pray for you.

650
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And we are gonna pray for you right now.

651
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Father Denise and I

652
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and Nancy, together, we pray

653
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that you help our friend

654
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get all the knots out of their life,

655
00:26:58.134 --> 00:27:01.590 line:15% 
to get rid of the worry and
the fret and the anxiety,

656
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and to put everything in your hands.

657
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Lord, you can deal with it.

658
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You can get rid of all the
knots. We thank you for that.

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We can cast our care on you, in Jesus name - Amen.

660
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Amen. We'll see you tomorrow.

661
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But remember Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word

662
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of a king is, there is power."

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If you've never received Jesus as your Savior

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and Lord, now is the time for you to experience a new life

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Jesus has to give you.

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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,

667
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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior

668
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and Lord. Wash away my sin and make me completely new.

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I thank you that my sin is removed

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and Satan no longer has any right to lay claim on me.

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I faithfully promise that I will serve you as my Lord

672
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for the rest of my life - Amen.

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<v ->Renner Ministries is proclaiming the gospel</v>

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of Jesus Christ through
every available media avenue

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to the uttermost parts of the earth.

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Discover the many ways you can
help us make a difference in

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lives around the world
with the word of God.

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We invite you to partner with
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and rescuing lives for the glory of God.

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Together we can make a difference

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that will last throughout eternity.

