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Let's join Rick Renner.
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Welcome to today's program.
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My name is Rick Renner
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and my friends, I'm very excited
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because today I have a guest
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and the guest is one of my dearest
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and closest friends that I'm talking about.
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Joseph Z - Oh, Rick, it's good to be with you.
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It's good to be with you, Mr. Z. Thank you.
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We were recently in a meeting
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where there was a very well
known preacher preaching who'd
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been texting me and saying, I want meet Joseph Z, I want
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to meet Joseph Z.
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He's walking through the crowd.
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He looks in there, he sees
Joseph. He said, hello, Z.
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I thought it's really
something when you're
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known by one letter.
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Yeah. It's like a, I don't know,
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like a rock star or something.
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Well, you're, you really
are a rockstar for me.
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I love Joseph Z and Joseph
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and I talk almost every
day, either by a phone
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or by Chat or by video.
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He really has become a very
dear friend in my life.
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And I'm so grateful that
God brought him into my life
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and God brought me into his life.
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And you know, in the body of Christ,
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we compliment each other. We help each other.
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Yes, sir. - We're not supposed to do life alone.
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And I'm so glad that we are doing life
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with Heather and Joseph.
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They're really very dear friends for us.
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But this week, Joseph and I are doing an entire series about
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Punishing The Darkness.
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It's a whole new take on spiritual warfare.
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It is a 5-part series. It comes with a great study guide.
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You know, I love our study guides.
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We put a lot of work
into our study guides,
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and I want them to be a blessing to you.
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And when you read the
material while you're seeing
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or hearing the series,
it's just a scientific fact
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that it really causes
a double whammy effect.
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It causes the revelation
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and the teaching to get
rooted down deep inside you.
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So I want you to have both
of these, both the series
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and the study guide,
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and the series comes in
all kinds of formats.
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And I want to tell you
about Joseph's book,
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which is called, Punishing The Darkness: Spiritual Warfare
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That Works. That is a great title. Joseph - Thank you, sir.
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I appreciate that. - Why do you say it's
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Spiritual Warfare That Works?
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Well,
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because there's a lot of religious ideas
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about spiritual warfare.
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And quite frankly, I've
learned so much from you
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and your teaching on spiritual warfare.
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You wrote that masterpiece
Dressed to Kill.
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I got it right here: Dress To Kill. Yeah.
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If you have a copy of Address
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to Kill, I wanna say thank you.
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It's been distributed by
millions around the world.
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But now you need the next one.
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And this is a great complimentary book to Dress To Kill.
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And honestly, it's a whole
new take on spiritual warfare
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that works.
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I really like that. Thanks Rick.
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But if you wanna know more
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And when you reach out to us,
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and we would love to pray for you.
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And the Bible tells us in Jeremiah
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33:3, Call unto me.
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I will hear you, I will
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You gotta pray according to the Bible.
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And that's what we do. It
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And it may be different
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But let's dive into the program about Spiritual Warfare
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That Works and Punishing The Darkness.
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Yes sir. - So Joseph, I want to ask you first,
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why did you write this book?
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Honestly, from my own
personal experiences
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and being in so much of
the charismatic circles
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and the prophetic community, there's a lot of strange things
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that come out regarding spiritual warfare.
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And you know what? It's been for years.
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That's why I wrote, Dressed To Kill.
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Back in those days, people were saying
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to do spiritual warfare, you had to fly in airplanes.
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I know up into the sky. Divine
principalities and powers.
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I mean, a lot of silliness.
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Yes. - Isn't it amazing
the Apostle Paul never had
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to take an airplane to
do spiritual warfare.
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It's true. You think about Paul
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or Jesus, they came into a town
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and you never read in scripture
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that they walked into a city.
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You never saw Jesus say, hold it boys.
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Do you feel that oppression,
the devil's in town,
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we can't come in today.
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We gotta send in 300 intercessors
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so we can get into the city.
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You never saw that kind of behavior. Now, yes,
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the devil resisted Paul at times and he couldn't go places.
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But most of what we see, spiritually speaking,
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works through people.
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It's not just unseen forces that just stop you arbitrarily,
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there are people that are mechanized
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and weaponized by the powers of the spirit,
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be it good or evil.
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And boy, we really see a lot
of that today. - We sure do.
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I even see it in the Christian community: Christians
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that are being used of
the devil to assault
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and sail one another.
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Yes. They don't understand.
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I like what you say,
they're being weaponized by
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the devil.
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And they really are.
They really are.
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You know, the devil, he
couldn't beat the church,
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the early church especially.
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So he attempts to join it.
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Now we know the devil can't
be a part of the church,
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but he attempts to join
it through fiery darts,
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through thoughts, through
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He wants to influence even
believers, to go along
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with an ideology
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that will really turn against
the principles of the Bible.
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And it really is cloaked in religion.
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And you see that often
in the body of Christ
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where people get offended,
they get wounded,
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they have things that
come into their heart.
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And the devil can utilize that.
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And I think that's a very serious issue today. - Well,
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that's a big part of spiritual warfare.
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The devil trying to paralyze
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and immobilize people with offense.
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That's a big part of spiritual warfare.
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It really is. It really is.
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And so a whole lot of spiritual warfare is, yes, we bind,
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we pull down, we pray, we intercede.
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But a lot of it is just keeping your
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mind on the word of God.
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A lot of it is just simply
being fortified with the word
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of God, knowing Jesus,
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knowing the Holy Spirit in relationship
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and walking in that love walk
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where you're developing
an all God has for you.
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And then you begin to push things back almost by accident,
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just by just living the word of God.
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And I see so many believers
that the devil wants inroads
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to them and they, they create strife,
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they create difficulty.
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And you know, it's an
interesting thing, Rick,
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when I think about Western civilization -
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we're not trained the way the early church was.
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We're trained in a different philosophy.
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We're trained to be very
natural and carnal, very
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intellectual.
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Now, back up. What do you
mean? What's the difference
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between the early church and us?
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Well, the early church
had a different view,
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I believe on spiritual matters.
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They, they really did.
They looked at things
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and they recognized that
the spirit was moving.
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There was of course bad doctrine.
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There was bad teaching
that flooded into the
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church at that time.
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You know, gnosticism was a big issue.
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You see all these different
terms that people use,
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that they would say Jesus
was really a phantom
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or he was a ghost.
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So they were very spiritual in the
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mindset, in the early church.
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Well, the whole Middle East was given
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to spiritual mysticism.
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Okay. And so it honestly,
it was easier for them
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to access spiritual things
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because they really
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Right. Whereas in the
Western world, we try to,
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can everything put it under
a microscope, examine it,
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pull it apart, scientific,
understand it with our mind.
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But the early church really understood the
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supernatural realm.
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And I think the Western Church
is very crippled in that way.
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I agree with you. And,
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and that's, that's what
I was thinking about
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and when I wrote this too,
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I was thinking the modern church really thinks analytically.
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They do. They they do. And so,
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And honestly, that's what I do.
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Yeah. If you're thinking
that's what you do,
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it's what I do too.
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Absolutely. But I honestly
think it's kind of one
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of the things that I'm supposed to do.
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But you can't just do that
and eliminate the other. Yes.
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There really is a supernatural realm.
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Yes. Well, just to bring the
order to that too, you know,
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we read the Bible till it
starts talking back to us,
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or as you say, read the Bible
till the Bible reads you.
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Right. - And I think that
is a very analytical process.
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We need to submit our
mind to it, all of it.
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Did you read your Bible today?
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You know what, no, but I will.
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I always ask Joseph,
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did you read your bible
today? I read my Bible today.
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Oh, that's great. I do every day.
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And Rick always ask me this
question, and normally I do.
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But getting into taping today,
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Well, we are starting
pretty early today. Yes.
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Okay. Yep. And so, going
through the whole process,
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we realize that when people
get into a analytical space
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and dismiss the spiritual aspects of it,
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we can be led into places where you,
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you compartmentalize God,
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you compartmentalize the spirit realm.
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The early church was so given to a culture
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of spiritual things -
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They were - they were absolutely given over to it
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that it was easier for them, I
believe, to receive miracles,
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to move in the spirit.
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And yes, deception was a part
of that from the culture, not
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for the church, but in the culture they
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Had. What, what do you mean by that?
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The culture of the time.
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So the spiritual side of the
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for them to move in miracles
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that it's not as easy to move in that,
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Testament church, they were already given
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to spiritual things.
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Yes - If they would go into a pagan temple,
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prophecy was in pagan temples.
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Signs and wonders were
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Signs and wonders didn't
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That was the world of the supernatural
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Where you could go visit an oracle.
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I mean was their world.
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to the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
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because that was the world
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of the 1st Century in the Middle East.
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And it really made it easier for them
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to move into the gifts of the spirit.
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And I really think one of our
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is, like you say, we're so
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Pull it apart.
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Can it study it, put
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If you can't understand
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miss a lot of things.
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I have one friend in the
ministry, Rabbi Schneider.
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He has a wonderful TV program called Discovering
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the Jewish Jesus.
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he's so open to spiritual things.
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through dreams and visions.
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Yes. - God speaks to him
through dreams and visions.
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But you have to be open
to that. You really do.
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But the early, the early
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or Christian, they were all open to that.
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it didn't come with word,
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only. Word only would've never
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It's so true. They had to come
with supernatural realities,
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bigger and better than what they were already accustomed to.
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Boy, that's true. True. So when the signs
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and wonders of the gospel showed up,
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they were more spectacular than any supernatural phenomenon
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the pagans had ever seen.
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Yeah. In, in the Western culture,
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they wanna quantify everything. In that culture,
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it was so spiritual that
they quantified Jesus
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to basically a phantom.
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did.
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and 2, it says - That which was from the beginning -
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this is John writing - which we have heard,
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which we have seen with our eyes.
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And he said, which we have looked upon
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and our hands have handled
concerning the word of life.
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I like that John said our hands have touched the Messiah.
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We actually touched He, he
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Yeah. We, we handled him. Yes.
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the life was manifested
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that we have seen and bear witness
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and declare to you that
eternal life, which was
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with the Father, was manifested to us.
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John was saying, we
physically comprehended him.
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early area, they would begin
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to say, well, he was a phantom.
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He was just this. And that
is, again, the extreme
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of a spiritual extreme in that time
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where today it's almost reversed.
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Now I wanna explain to the
audience when Joseph says
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that there were people who said Jesus was a fathom
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This is a connection
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to gnosticism of the 1st Century.
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And the gnostics, the word
gnostic is from the Greek word
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ginosko, which means I know.
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And the gnostics were a group...
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who claimed to be elite.
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That's right. - They said they had superior knowledge
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above anybody else.
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or he was an emanation
from the spirit realm.
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They tried to relegate Jesus
just to the spirit realm.
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And so John was combating gnosticism
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and said, Hey, we touched him.
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This is not a, a phantom spirit.
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He really was manifest to us.
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We touched him, we handled him. And Joseph
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just recently I did the RIV of 1st John.
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Wait until you see with the RIV says on those verses,
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Can't wait.
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It's so rich. Okay, go ahead. - Well I think about that.
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And the opposite is true
in the Western culture.
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So I believe there's a
deception in it where we have
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to quantify measure everything.
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And we just get very, for lack
of a better word, corneal in
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how we view spiritual matters.
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And when we have that issue, I
believe deception can come in
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because like Paul Harvey said,
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the greatest deception the devil basically ever pulled off
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is that he convinced the world he doesn't exist.
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So therefore, if we can't quantify it
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and see it, we're open to deception of spiritual matters.
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No stop there. That's a big statement.
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Yes. - Tell me, what does that mean?
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I believe that when you
only look in the natural
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and you only see things
through a scientific lens,
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what you can measure, what you
can quantify in the natural
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spiritual forces can run amuck.
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And you're just not, not open to them.
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You, you, you don't see it
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Because you're just
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Very much.
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Okay.
Yeah. And I believe
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that's an issue in the
body of Christ today.
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Maybe an example would be somebody
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who has a physical issue.
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They do everything natural.
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And they miss the fact
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that there's a spiritual force
they need to be dealing with.
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That's right. That's really
behind their sickness.
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That's right. Well, you need
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to do everything natural you can do,
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but sometimes that's not enough.
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throw medicine at something.
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And by the way, we're
for medicine very much.
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We believe in using every tool
in the toolbox. That's right.
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The blood of Jesus, the word of God, the cross, medicine,
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throw all of it against sickness.
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is doing the natural part,
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but you're missing the spiritual part,
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then there's a whole spiritual
realm that's defeating you
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and you're not even aware of it.
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That's so true. And the same is
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true with spiritual warfare.
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There can be things opposing you.
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There's, there's circumstances happening
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and people just say, well,
I need to plan better.
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They, they listen to all
the social media influencers
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and say, I need to work out more.
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I need to do this. I need
to go down this road.
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I need to just really get on point.
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they're being opposed
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by some spiritual force,
whether it's an open door
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or maybe there's a form of witchcraft they're experiencing.
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And if you just go at these things logically,
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you will not get the results that you're really looking for.
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And we need to have
spiritual force working in us
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through the written word of God
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that we push these things back.
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And the whole thing about taking authority over darkness,
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you know, when I was a young person, Rick, I had
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so many spiritual encounters
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that were absolutely terrifying.
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And I just didn't know what
was happening in my life.
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I'd have things in my room,
I'd have things moving.
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Just terrible experiences.
I think that's part of your
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Prophetic calling I think.
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I think from the very beginning you were just very open
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to spiritual things.
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And a lot of people don't
have those experiences.
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No, they do not. That
may sound strange to you,
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but Joseph, really from a very young age, saw
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and experienced spiritual things.
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I think it was part of your
preparation for what you do.
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Oh, thank you. And,
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and walking through that, I
had to learn that my goodness,
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there's a spiritual reality that we need
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to fortify ourselves with
the written word of God.
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And this is where a lot
of people get off in some
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of the spiritual encounters too.
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They don't use the Bible.
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They get into strange things
to oppose spiritual forces.
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Right. They do. Interesting,
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maybe very unbiblical
things to stand up. That's
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Why they need to redress, kill
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and punish from the darkness.
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Right. Size your thinking.
It's very important.
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It is important. What you
think about the devil is very
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important, my friends, you've
got authority over the devil.
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And if you try a lot of voodooish, hocus pocus things
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against the devil, yes.
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It, it will not work.
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You need to respond to the spirit realm
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as the Bible teaches us to do so.
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And that's why these books are
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really important.
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Very important. And one of
the things we do in this book,
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which I love your books, Rick,
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your books have changed my life.
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One of the things we do
is we take a whole chapter
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and we just show you how
to pray the scripture.
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I love that chapter.
It's the end of the book.
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It's so wonderful. Well,
I think, you know, I kind
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of call it a paint by
numbers way of praying.
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So when you don't know
what to pray, pray the word
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and you pray the word
and it's super effective
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and it releases power
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and it begins to change the
spiritual climate around you.
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And more than ever, there's a insanity
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that's trying to come into the culture.
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We see it in the streets,
we see it on the news,
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we see all the global turmoil,
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and there's a civic insanity
that wants to come forward.
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And the church - a civic insanity - I think so.
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What does that mean? I believe
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that the culture is getting
a, like a, a maddening spirit
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that wants to come in
and just create turmoil,
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create unrest, create difficulty
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and confusion in the realm of the spirit.
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You know, the rabbis
who wrote between the old
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and the New Testaments called
the intertestamental period,
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they prophesied. You know Joseph,
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some people say those
were the silent years
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when God didn't speak.
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God has never been silent.
God has always been speaking.
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That's right. - Even in those 400 years, for those
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who had ears to hear,
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and the Rabbi has said, you'll
know, you've come to the end
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of the age when spirits
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of delusion have been released
into society delusion.
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And people begin to be insane. Yes.
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That's why I'm interested in what
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you're saying.
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Well, thank you Rick. And I think
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that when we stand up against it, we do it
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by a revival of the Bible.
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That's one thing you teach all the time.
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We need a revival of the Bible.
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We don't need to get more spiritual.
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If we want to get really spiritual, we do
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what John 6:63 says - My words are spirit, they are life.
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When we read the word
of God, we will begin
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to resist the lust of the flesh.
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We'll resist all these things.
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I think Galatians 5:16 - walk in the spirit
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and you won't fulfill the lust of the flesh - which leads
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to civic unrest, civic insanity, a western mind that just is
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so carnal that it doesn't really perceive
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what the word of God has for
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us.
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So you're saying that a lot
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of the things we're seeing in
society today really is the,
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the work of demon spirits
working behind the scenes.
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Yes, sir. Producing the
civic insanity. Yes, sir.
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For example, some
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of the things we've seen
in Minneapolis Oh yes.
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In different parts of the country
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where people are just
raging out of control.
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There's nothing logical
about it. There isn't.
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There's a spirit driving it.
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Yep. And they need free moral agents,
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human bodies to cooperate.
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That's where deception comes.
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The devil can't just
devour whomever he wants.
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He's gotta work with people
and he's gotta influence them.
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And if they cooperate, then
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what happens is spiritual forces begin
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to invade the culture - drive it - drive it.
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And he needs physical bodies to do that.
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The Bible calls it the mystery of iniquity. Wow.
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There's that iniquity
working behind the scenes.
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And Joseph is just gonna get more intense
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as we come to the end of the age.
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It is. So we need to
know how to deal with it
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and punish the darkness.
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So how do we do it? Well, instead
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of just pushing back
darkness, we can punish it
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by intercession, by prayer,
by reading our Bible.
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What does that mean - punish?
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Well, punishing is different
than just pushing it back.
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Punishing means to take it captive.
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You know, I write in the 1st chapter
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of this book about the little town of Dothan where
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the prophet Eisha was there and the army came
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and of course his servant was afraid.
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And he said, Lord, open his eyes.
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He did - saw all the forces
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of heaven that were standing with them.
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There were more for
them than against them.
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When you begin to recognize
what you have on your side,
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through God Almighty, we can
begin to push back darkness,
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but not just push it back.
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In that story, Elisha struck
blindness on all those armies
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that came against him in the
natural and led them 10 miles.
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The prophet. Can you see that?
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That that old prophet leading a whole army
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that was blind all the way to Samaria. When he did this,
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I believe that's a form of not just stopping them,
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there was a punishment in
that where he took them from
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where they were to another location
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and completely took them
out of the territory.
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So how does that apply to us?
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I believe in intercession and prayer.
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When we begin to rise up,
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we realize there's many more forests than
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that are against us.
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And we can begin to push
back spiritual forces in
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territories, in where we live,
in our home, in our family,
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and begin to say, you
might come walking over,
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but you will go limping back
to the powers of darkness.
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That's the power of the chapter of this book - Yes -
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where you tell people how to pray spiritual warfare prayers.
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That's right, Rick. Yes.
I mean, you would just
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lead them right into it.
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How to take action.
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Friends, I'm gonna tell you,
this book is just tremendous
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and this series is tremendous.
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And I wanna say thank you for being
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with me every day this week.
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Oh, it's a privilege, Rick,
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Thank
You.
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You know what we're
doing right now with you,
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he and I do every day.
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It's true this, we're bantering back
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and forth spiritually all the time.
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And this week you're gonna
get the benefit of it.
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And I don't want you to
miss tomorrow's episode.
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We're gonna pick up right
here. We're gonna continue.
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We're just barely getting started.
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But Joseph and I will
be back in just a moment
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and we're gonna pray for you.
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As culture is driven toward
chaos by unseen forces,
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believers must learn
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to use every spiritual
tool God has provided.
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But how do you fight an
enemy you cannot see?
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While the lost may be dominated by the ruler of this world,
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the saved can close doors to
deception when their ability
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to trust outweighs their
need to understand.
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In his five-part series, Ultimate Spiritual Warfare,
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This is Rick Renner, and
today I'm in the Tulsa office
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and this is another part
of our new TV studio.
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This is where Denise
is filming TV programs
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and how wonderful that now we
have two little studios, one
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for her and one for me where
we can interview guests
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who can't come all the way to Russia
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to be interviewed in our studio there.
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So when we're in the United States,
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we can interview them here.
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And that's what we've been doing all week
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in this wonderful
facility, which God gave us
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in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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We're so grateful for this building.
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It was really a gift from the Lord.
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And it's almost paid for.
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We've already retired, 86% of the debt.
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We just need to go a
little ways to finish this.
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We caught the Ministry expansion project
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because when this is finished, it's going
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to allow the ministry to
really expand financially,
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to wrap our arms around the whole world
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where people need the trusted
teaching of the Bible.
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And we know that's our calling.
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And if you're a part of
the Giving team, I want
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to say thank you for helping us
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to retire the dead on this facility
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and to release those finances.
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And if you're not a part
of the Giving Team yet,
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I'm inviting you today to join us
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to help us finish this project.
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Wow, what a shout of victory
we're gonna give to God on
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that day when it's done.
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And just think of the people
that are going to be reached.
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So thank you for being a part
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of the Ministry Expansion Project.
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Well, we have had a great beginning to this week's series,
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which is about punishing the darkness.
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And it's me and my very
dear friend, Joseph Z.
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Thank you, Rick. Thank
you for being with me
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and being with our friends.
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And I want to remind you the whole series,
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it's five parts called
Punishing the Darkness,
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and it comes with a wonderful study guide.
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You will just love the study guide.
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You can read it while you're seeing
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or hearing the whole five parts series,
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which comes in all kinds of formats.
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And I'm excited to tell
you about Joseph's book,
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which is called Punishing the Darkness,
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spiritual Warfare That Works.
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Don't you like that? You'll like
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it more when you read the book.
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I mean, this book is so
applicable to your life.
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It will really show you how
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to push darkness back across the line.
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In my friend's darkness does
not belong in your life.
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And there really is a
Spiritual Warfare That Works
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and that's what this book is about.
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But you can find out
about all these resources
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by going online or by giving us a call.
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And when you reach out to
us, as I always tell you,
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let us know how to pray for you
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because we're waiting to
pray for you right now.
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Just call the number on the
screen and write it down.
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Maybe later you're gonna
get into a position
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where you wish you had
someone to pray with you.
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We'll keep that number
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and later on, if you get
in a fix, you'll know
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where to call for prayer.
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That's us. We're waiting to pray for you.
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Or if you wish to send us an email
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and when we hear from you,
we're gonna release our faith.
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And Jesus is gonna do what
needs to be done. Amen.
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And Joseph and I are gonna
pray for you right now.
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Father, we thank you in the
wonderful name of Jesus.
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Yes sir. That we are together
today. What a privilege.
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Yes. - And Father, we ask
you to be with our friends.
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And Lord, we pray that you
would teach them the punish,
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the darkness, and to drive any hint
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of evil out of their life.
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Yes Lord.
In Jesus name. Amen. Amen.
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Alright, Joseph. Okay,
let's pick up here tomorrow.
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Okay sir. And until then, I want you
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to remember Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word
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of a king is, there is power."
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If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior
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and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life
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Jesus has to give you.
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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord, I repent
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of my sin and receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. Wash away my sin
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and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
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for the rest of my life.
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Amen. If you just prayed
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