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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: SO WE
DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME,

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SO I'M GOING TO
GET RIGHT INTO IT.

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I HAVE KAT CHATFIELD
HERE, GUYS.

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I'M SO EXCITED.


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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIS
BOOK,<i>THE POWER TO PROSPER</i> .

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NOW, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, TELL US
WHY YOU DIDN'T WRITE THIS BOOK

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AND WHY
YOU WROTE THIS BOOK.

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THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
DISTINGUISHER HERE.

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KAT CHATFIELD: YEAH, THAT IS
AN IMPORTANT DISTINGUISHER.

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THE FIRST CHAPTER OF
THE BOOK LITERALLY SAYS

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THE BOOK I DIDN'T
WANT TO WRITE.

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AND SO FOR A GUY
WHO'S IN MINISTRY

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AND ALSO AS A GUY, REBECCA,
WHO I TALK ABOUT,

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I'M NOT AFRAID TO
TALK ABOUT ANYTHING.

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I'M NOT AFRAID TO
TALK ABOUT CULTURE.

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I'M NOT AFRAID TO STICK MY NOSE
IN THE FIGHT OF, YOU KNOW,

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GOD'S DESIGN FOR
SEXUALITY, ALL THAT STUFF.

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BUT THE TOPIC OF PROSPERITY
WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT

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PUT ON MY SPIRIT TO
ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT IT,

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I WAS LIKE, NO,
ANYTHING BUT THAT.

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BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF THE
STIGMA AND THE CONNOTATIONS

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AND THE LABELS THAT
COME WITH THAT WORD,

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PROSPERITY, AND THE
REASON WHY I KNOW THAT GOD

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TOLD ME TO WRITE THIS BOOK
WAS BECAUSE MY INABILITY

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TO BELIEVE THAT GOD WAS
A PROSPERER KEPT ME FROM

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ACTUALLY PURSUING GOD'S
CALLING ON MY LIFE.

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I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS,
AND THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION

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FOR THE
AUDIENCE, TOO.

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IF MONEY WEREN'T AN ISSUE,
LIKE IF YOU HAD ALL THE MONEY

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YOU NEEDED IN
YOUR BANK ACCOUNT,

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YOU DON'T HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT IT EVER AGAIN,

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WHAT WOULD
YOU DO FOR GOD?

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REBECCA: POSSIBILITIES
ARE ENDLESS.

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KAT: YEAH, BUT HERE'S
THE THING IS, A LOT OF PEOPLE

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HAVE GREAT IDEAS
AND GREAT, YOU KNOW,

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HAVE SERIOUS CONVICTIONS ABOUT
WHAT GOD'S CREATED THEM TO DO.

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BUT THEY LIVE THIS LIFE OF
IF ONLY IF,

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IF ONLY I
COULD AFFORD THAT.

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OR MAYBE,
ONE DAY I WILL.

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OR MAYBE, AND
THAT DAY NEVER COMES.

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AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE
PEOPLE WHO LIVE, IN THE CULTURE,

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THEY SAY NPC, LIKE
NON-PLAYABLE CHARACTER.

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IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE ALL
THESE NPC CHRISTIANS

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THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY LIVING OUT
GOD'S CALLING FOR THEIR LIVES.

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FOR MANY OF THEM, IT'S
BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE

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THAT GOD IS
ACTUALLY A GOOD MASTER,

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AND THAT IF THEY WENT ALL IN
ON WHAT GOD ACTUALLY TOLD THEM

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TO DO, THAT GOD WOULD MAKE SURE,
JUST LIKE JESUS PROMISED,

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THAT IF YOU SEEK FIRST THE
KINGDOM AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS,

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ALL OF THESE THINGS
WILL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.

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SO THAT'S THE
HEART OF THE BOOK.

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THE HEART OF THE BOOK IS
NOT A LET ME JUST, YOU KNOW,

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FLEX MY LIFESTYLE
AND LET ME USE GOD AS A GENIE.

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IT'S NOT THE HEART.


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THE HEART OF IT IS
ACTUALLY, HOW DO I GET

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FULLY ALIGNED WITH
GOD'S ECONOMY?

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SO I DON'T, IT DOESN'T EVEN
MATTER WHAT'S GOING ON

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WITH THE WORLD OR
THE ANTICHRIST AGENDA.

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DOESN'T EVEN MATTER.


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I CAN LIVE SO PLUGGED INTO
GOD'S SYSTEM

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AND NEVER HAVE TO
WORRY ABOUT MONEY AGAIN,

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AND JUST FOCUS ON WINNING SOULS,
MAKING DISCIPLES, AND OCCUPYING

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UNTIL HE COMES BACK.


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REBECCA: THE WAY I SAW IT IS
IT'S PROSPERITY WITH A PURPOSE,

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FOR SURE.


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AND I REMEMBER READING IN BIBLE
SCHOOL<i>SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES</i>

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BY DALLAS WILLARD.


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AND ONE OF THE THINGS
HE SAID IS, IS HE SAID

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POVERTY IS NOT A
SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINE.

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HE SAID STEWARDSHIP IS. SO HE
HAD TO BREAK DOWN THAT MINDSET.

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KAT: THAT'S HUGE.


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REBECCA: AND SO THAT'S A HUGE
MISCONCEPTION IN THE CHURCH.

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AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF
FALSE BELIEFS AROUND MONEY

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IN THE CHURCH BECAUSE OF
PEOPLE'S HURT AND EXPERIENCES,

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FOR SURE,
TWISTING IT.

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BUT IF WE DON'T RISE UP
AND TAKE PROSPERITY,

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WE WON'T BE ABLE TO FULLY
WALK IN WHAT GOD HAS FOR US.

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SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT WE CAN PROSPER,

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THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
IN THE BIBLE PROSPER.

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
YOU SAID WAS REALLY INTERESTING,

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IS YOU SAID IN EVERY
MAJOR EVENT THAT WAS HAPPENING

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IN SCRIPTURE, THERE WAS MONEY
INVOLVED IN IT, AS WELL.

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AND SO WHEN YOU GET INTO
THE WORD, THE WORD IS

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ACTUALLY REALLY CLEAR ABOUT
THE IMPORTANCE OF PROSPERITY.

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CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?


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KAT: YEAH.


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SO IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE SO I BUILT
MY PLATFORM ON SOCIAL MEDIA

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DOING A LOT OF
REACTION CONTENT, YOU KNOW,

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WHETHER IT WAS ABOUT POLITICS
OR EVEN STUFF IN THE CHURCH.

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AND IT WAS A COUPLE OF
YEARS AGO, I SAW THIS CLIP

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OF THIS YOUNG LADY.


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SHE PROBABLY MEANT WELL, BUT SHE
PUT OUT A REALLY BOLD STATEMENT.

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SHE WAS LIKE ON A, YOU KNOW,
ON A PANEL AT A CHURCH.

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AND SHE SAID, NOWHERE IN
THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY

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THAT GOD'S BLESSING
EQUATES TO MATERIAL GAIN.

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AND SHE SAID IT VERY
EMPHATICALLY AND DOGMATICALLY.

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AND I WAS LIKE, AND THIS IS
COMING FROM A GUY, BY THE WAY,

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I DON'T COME BACK.


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I DON'T COME FROM A WORD
OF FAITH BACKGROUND.

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YEAH, I DON'T EVEN COME
FROM A CHARISMATIC BACKGROUND.

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I WAS AN ATHEIST.


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I HAD AN ENCOUNTER
WITH GOD IN COLLEGE,

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GOT PLUGGED INTO
THE CALVARY CHAPEL MOVEMENT,

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STEEPED IN THE WORD, AND THEN
GOT BAPTIZED IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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AND THEN EVERYTHING JUST
LIKE REALLY ROCKET SHIPPED

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FROM THERE.


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REBECCA: THAT'S AWESOME.


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KAT: YEAH, BUT I'M JUST THINKING
OF ALL THESE BIBLE STORIES

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WHERE I'M LIKE,
BUT WAIT A SECOND.

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IT SAYS THAT GOD
BLESSED ABRAHAM.

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AND ABRAHAM WASN'T JUST
RICH, HE WAS VERY RICH.

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AND ISAAC, IT SAYS ONE OF THE
MOST INCONVENIENT SCRIPTURES

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FOR PEOPLE WHO
HATE THE WORD PROSPERITY.

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IN GENESIS 26, IT SAID
THAT ISAAC PROSPERED

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AND CONTINUED TO PROSPER
UNTIL HE WAS VERY PROSPEROUS,

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GROWING WITH LIVESTOCK,
RICHES, SILVER, AND GOLD.

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AND THEN, YOU SEE,
JACOB PROSPERED, BOAZ PROSPERED,

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SOLOMON PROSPERED,
DAVID PROSPERED.

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WELL, WHAT ABOUT JOB?


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WELL, WHAT ABOUT
THE END OF JOB?

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BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT
JOB LOSING EVERYTHING,

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WHICH, BY THE WAY, THE DEVIL
STOLE EVERYTHING FROM JOB.

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NOT GOD.


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AND THEN JOB 42, GOD
RETURNS EVERYTHING TO JOB,

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DOUBLE WHAT HE HAD BEFORE.


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WELL, WHAT ABOUT
THE DISCIPLES?

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WE'LL TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
JESUS CAME UP ON THE SCENE

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WHEN PETER HAD A REALLY BAD
NIGHT WITH HIS FISHING BUSINESS

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AND JESUS'
WINNING STRATEGY

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TO GET PETER TO
BECOME A DISCIPLE.

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REBECCA: OH, YEAH, I
FORGOT ABOUT THIS.

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KAT: YEAH.


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IT WASN'T
REBUKING PETER

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FOR FOCUSING
ON HIS BUSINESS.

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IT WAS BLESSING HIS
BUSINESS TO SUCH A DEGREE

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THAT IT LITERALLY WOULD
BREAK THE NETS, SINK THE BOAT,

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AND CAUSE OTHER
PEOPLE TO HAVE TO JOIN IN.

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AND THEN PETER'S RESPONSE
WASN'T TO CREATE A GOLDEN FISH

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ON THE SHORE AND
BEGIN WORSHIPING IT.

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HE FELL BEFORE JESUS' FEET
AND SAID, DEPART FROM ME, LORD,

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I'M A SINFUL MAN.


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AND THEN JESUS SAID,
FROM THIS DAY FORWARD,

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YOU'RE NO LONGER FISHING FOR
FISH, YOU'RE FISHING FOR MEN.

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PETER'S MINISTERIAL ASSIGNMENT
BEGAN WITH A REVELATION

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THAT JESUS IS THE


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PROSPERER, THAT GOD
IS THE PROSPERER.

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AND SO THE PATTERN
IS CONSISTENT.

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AND THAT'S WHY I THINK
GOD'S SO UNASHAMED OF IT

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IS BECAUSE IT'S THOSE WHO
RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH

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NEVER NEED
TO BE ASHAMED.

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AND IT'S ALL
OVER THE WORD.

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REBECCA: WOULD YOU SAY THAT
IT'S REALLY MORE ABOUT

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WHERE YOUR HEART IS?


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THE BIBLE SAYS,
WHERE YOUR HEART IS,

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THAT'S WHERE
YOUR TREASURE IS.

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AND IT'S, THERE'S
A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

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USING MONEY AS A TOOL
VERSUS A LOVE OF MONEY.

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REBECCA: YES, THAT'S
DEFINITELY PART OF IT.

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BUT THAT SCRIPTURE, A LOT OF
PEOPLE ACTUALLY QUOTE IT

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BACKWARDS, AND
YOU JUST DID.

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AND I'M NOT HOLDING
IT AGAINST YOU.

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REBECCA: DON'T HOLD
IT AGAINST ME.

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KAT: BUT THIS IS WHY I WROTE
THE BOOK, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY,

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WE USUALLY QUOTED AS,
WHERE YOUR HEART IS,

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WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS,
WHICH MAKES SENSE

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BECAUSE IF I CARE ABOUT
IT, I'LL INVEST IN IT.

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IT'S ACTUALLY WHERE
YOUR TREASURE IS,

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THERE YOUR HEART
WILL BE ALSO.

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AND SO WHAT THAT
COMMUNICATES TO ME

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IS WHEREVER MY MONEY IS SENT
IS WHERE MY HEART WILL FOLLOW,

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WHICH IS ONE OF
THE REASONS WHY I TALK ABOUT

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GIVING SO MUCH
IN THE BIBLE.

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BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO BE
ALL ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF GOD,

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YOU CAN'T BE ALL
ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF GOD

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IF YOU'RE NOT SOWING
YOUR TREASURE THERE.

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IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.


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WHY?


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BECAUSE IF YOUR TREASURE IS NOT
THERE, YOUR HEART'S NOT THERE.

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IF YOU'RE NOT GIVING TO
YOUR LOCAL CHURCH,

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YOU'RE NOT FULLY INVESTED
IN THE CHURCH.

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YOU'RE NOT FULLY RECEIVING
THE REVELATION FROM THE PASTOR.

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SO ANYWAY, THAT
PART'S JUST IMPORTANT TO --

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REBECCA: A REALLY GOOD WORD.


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KAT: YEAH.


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BUT IN REGARDS TO LIKE THE
MOTIVATION, HERE'S WHAT I

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WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND
IS, FIRST OF ALL,

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LET'S DEFINE PROSPERITY BECAUSE
I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT

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PROSPERITY AS LIKE, NICE WATCH,
NICE CAR, WHICH BY THE WAY,

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ALL GOOD THINGS, ALL GOOD GIFTS
COME FROM THE FATHER ABOVE,

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AND THEY'RE FOR
YOUR ENJOYMENT.

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SO THERE'S NOTHING
WRONG WITH THAT.

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BUT BIBLICALLY, PROSPERITY
IS THIS II CORINTHIANS NINE.

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IT SAYS THAT GOD WOULD
ALLOW YOU TO ABOUND

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AND BE ALL SUFFICIENT
IN ALL THINGS,

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AND HAVE AN
ABUNDANCE LEFT OVER

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FOR EVERY OCCASION
OF GENEROSITY.

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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?


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HAVING ENOUGH TO FULFILL
WHAT GOD'S CALLED YOU TO FULFILL

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IN YOUR ASSIGNMENT
ON THE EARTH,

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AND MORE THAN ENOUGH TO
BE A BLESSING TO OTHERS.

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I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT HARD,
BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON,

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WE'VE ALLOWED, AND
REALLY, IT'S THE ENEMY,

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THE ENEMY HAS ALLOWED
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISTORTED IT

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AND MANIPULATED IT TO
CAUSE AN OFFENSE IN THE CHURCH

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AND A FEAR
IN PASTORS

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FROM ACTUALLY
TEACHING THE RIGHT WAY.

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SO NOW PASTORS DON'T
TEACH IT THE CORRECT WAY.

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REBECCA: NO, THEY DON'T.


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KAT: GOD'S PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED
FOR A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.

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THEY STAY BROKE.


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THEY'RE NOT INVESTING
IN THE WORK OF GOD,

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WHICH ACTUALLY IS PART OF
WHAT BREAKS THE YOKE OF POVERTY.

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AND THEN THE MISSION
DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD.

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SO THEN PASTORS HAVE TO
BECOME BIVOCATIONAL,

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AND THEN THEY SEPARATE.


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THEY BASICALLY SPEND
ALL OF THEIR TIME WORKING

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ON THE MINISTRY AND TRYING TO
PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY.

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THEY PUT THEIR FAMILY
ON THE ALTAR OF MINISTRY,

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AND THEN THEIR KIDS END UP
RAISED UP RESENTING THE MINISTRY

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BECAUSE DAD WAS NEVER HOME
OR MOM WAS NEVER HOME.

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AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY
A GENERALIZATION,

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BUT I'VE SEEN IT OVER
AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

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REBECCA: SAME HERE.


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KAT: AND THAT'S WHY FOR ME, IT'S
SO IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS.

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BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET THIS,
GOD'S PEOPLE WILL THRIVE.

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THE PEOPLE WHO'VE READ
THIS BOOK, WHO'VE APPLIED THIS,

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THE TESTIMONIES
ARE INSANE

00:09:10.167 --> 00:09:12.367
OF GOD'S BREAKTHROUGH FOR
THESE PEOPLE WHO HAD A, QUOTE,

00:09:12.467 --> 00:09:15.834
FIXED INCOME, YOU NEVER
HAVE A FIXED INCOME WITH GOD.

00:09:15.934 --> 00:09:18.367
HE EITHER OWNS THE CATTLE ON
A THOUSAND HILLS OR HE DOESN'T.

00:09:18.467 --> 00:09:19.801
BUT THE PROBLEM IS, WE
DON'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE

00:09:19.901 --> 00:09:21.301
ACCORDING TO HIS ECONOMY.


00:09:21.401 --> 00:09:24.367
BUT WHEN WE DO, AND WHEN PASTORS
BEGIN TEACHING IT CORRECTLY,

00:09:24.467 --> 00:09:27.767
IT MOVES US FROM THIS BROKE
CYCLE TO THIS ENERGYZING CYCLE.

00:09:27.867 --> 00:09:31.334
AND THAT'S WHEN THE DEVIL,
I CAN SEE WHY THE DEVIL

00:09:31.434 --> 00:09:32.800
HATES THIS
MESSAGE SO MUCH.

00:09:32.900 --> 00:09:33.701
REBECCA: YEAH, AND WHY


00:09:33.801 --> 00:09:35.034
HE'S TWISTED
IT SO MUCH

00:09:35.134 --> 00:09:38.034
AND TURNED CHRISTIANS' HEARTS
AGAINST IT THROUGH DECEPTION.

00:09:38.134 --> 00:09:39.934
BECAUSE IF WE WOULD
RISE UP AND OPERATE

00:09:40.034 --> 00:09:41.301
IN THE FULLNESS
OF OUR CALLING,

00:09:41.401 --> 00:09:42.734
WE WOULD BE
SO MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE.

00:09:42.834 --> 00:09:44.267
KAT: WE'D BE SO MUCH
MORE EFFECTIVE.

00:09:44.367 --> 00:09:48.167
AND IT'S ALSO A SPLINTER IN THE
SIDE FOR THE ANTICHRIST AGENDA.

00:09:48.267 --> 00:09:49.400
REBECCA: YEAH, THAT


00:09:49.500 --> 00:09:50.934
WAS THE NEXT THING, I REALLY
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

00:09:51.034 --> 00:09:51.900
KAT: SO CHECK THIS OUT.


00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.467
SO WITH MY CONTENT,
ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN

00:09:54.567 --> 00:09:56.767
FOLLOWING ME FOR THE
PAST FEW YEARS KNOWS THAT

00:09:56.867 --> 00:09:58.434
I LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON
IN THE CULTURE

00:09:58.534 --> 00:10:00.833
AND I'M LOOKING AT THE PATTERNS
OF LIKE, THIS IS EVERYTHING

00:10:00.933 --> 00:10:04.733
JESUS SAID WOULD HAPPEN IN
MATTHEW 24 BEFORE HE COMES BACK.

00:10:04.833 --> 00:10:08.433
AND AS I WAS WRITING THIS
BOOK, THE HOLY SPIRIT KIND OF

00:10:08.533 --> 00:10:11.100
WHISPERED
TO MY SPIRIT

00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:14.567
AND SAID, KAT, YOU KNOW THAT THE
DEVIL DOESN'T CREATE ANYTHING,

00:10:14.633 --> 00:10:15.434
RIGHT?


00:10:15.534 --> 00:10:16.734
HE ONLY COUNTERFEITS
WHAT I CREATE.

00:10:16.834 --> 00:10:17.767
YES, LORD.


00:10:17.867 --> 00:10:21.901
OKAY, SO WHY DO YOU THINK
IN REVELATION 13

00:10:22.001 --> 00:10:25.400
THE ANTICHRIST IS GOING TO
HAVE EVERYBODY TAKE A MARK

00:10:25.500 --> 00:10:28.034
ON THEIR HAND
OR ON THEIR FOREHEAD,

00:10:28.134 --> 00:10:31.134
AND THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE GLOBAL

00:10:31.234 --> 00:10:35.867
ONE WORLD ECONOMY UNLESS THEY
TAKE THIS MARK? I DON'T KNOW.

00:10:35.967 --> 00:10:37.934
WELL, I WANT YOU TO GO
BACK TO DEUTERONOMY.

00:10:38.034 --> 00:10:39.134
THIS IS MY CONVERSATION
WITH THE LORD.

00:10:39.234 --> 00:10:41.733
SO I GO TO DEUTERONOMY,
AND THERE'S THE SCRIPTURE

00:10:41.833 --> 00:10:45.101
WHERE GOD SAYS TO MOSES
TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE,

00:10:45.201 --> 00:10:50.900
AND HE SAYS, I WANT YOU TO
BIND MY WORD ON YOUR HAND.

00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.567
AND AS A FRONTLET IN
BETWEEN YOUR EYES, ON YOUR HAND,

00:10:54.667 --> 00:10:58.067
AND OVER YOUR MIND WITH HOW YOU
GOVERN, HOW IT SHOULD GOVERN,

00:10:58.167 --> 00:11:00.167
WHAT YOU DO
AND HOW YOU THINK.

00:11:00.267 --> 00:11:03.800
AND SO YOU SEE, LIKE
VERY ORTHODOX JEWS IN ISRAEL,

00:11:03.900 --> 00:11:05.333
THEY'LL LITERALLY
LIKE TIE THESE BOXES

00:11:05.433 --> 00:11:06.900
AROUND THEIR HANDS
AND THEIR FOREHEAD.

00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.067
WHAT IS THE ANTICHRIST
TRYING TO DO?

00:11:09.167 --> 00:11:16.034
IT'S A MOCKERY OF AN ALLEGIANCE
TO AN ECONOMIC COVENANT.

00:11:16.134 --> 00:11:17.500
DO YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT I'M SAYING?

00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:21.300
WHAT THE DEVIL
WANTS TO DO IN CHRISTIANS IS,

00:11:21.400 --> 00:11:25.100
HE WANTS US TO COME
OUT OF AGREEMENT WITH THE WORD.

00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:26.334
DEUTERONOMY 8:18.


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REMEMBER, THE WHOLE POINT OF
THIS IS, REMEMBER THE LORD

00:11:30.367 --> 00:11:32.634
YOUR GOD, FOR IT IS
HE WHO GIVES YOU THE POWER

00:11:32.734 --> 00:11:34.867
TO GET WEALTH, THAT HE MAY
FULFILL THE COVENANT

00:11:34.967 --> 00:11:37.000
THAT HE MADE WITH YOUR
SPIRITUAL ANCESTORS.

00:11:37.100 --> 00:11:39.867
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS,
BECAUSE WE'VE FORGOTTEN,

00:11:39.967 --> 00:11:42.334
WE THINK THAT OUR EMPLOYER
IS A BETTER MASTER.

00:11:42.434 --> 00:11:43.434
WE THINK THE GOVERNMENT.


00:11:43.534 --> 00:11:46.234
HOW MANY CHRISTIANS ARE
ON GOVERNMENT WELFARE?

00:11:46.334 --> 00:11:48.900
AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO
LIKE BE MEAN TO CHRISTIANS

00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.100
WHO ARE STRUGGLING,
BUT WE GOT TO WAKE UP,

00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:52.933
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE
REALLY DOING IS,

00:11:53.033 --> 00:11:55.833
WE'RE PUTTING OUR TRUST IN
PHARAOH AND KING NEBUCHADNEZZAR

00:11:55.933 --> 00:11:59.900
AND THE BABYLONIAN ECONOMY
AND AN ANTICHRIST AGENDA.

00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.533
AND GOD IS SAYING, YOU HAVE
NO IDEA WHAT ALLEGIANCE

00:12:03.633 --> 00:12:07.300
YOU'RE MAKING
BY FORGETTING THAT I'M THE ONE.

00:12:07.400 --> 00:12:09.734
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT'S
GOING ON IN THE ECONOMY.

00:12:09.834 --> 00:12:13.834
ISAAC WAS LITERALLY
IN A FAMINE IN GENESIS 26,

00:12:13.934 --> 00:12:16.667
AND HIS TEMPTATION WAS,
I'M GOING TO GO TO EGYPT.

00:12:16.767 --> 00:12:19.667
I'M GOING TO ASK THE KING
OF GERAR TO BASICALLY

00:12:19.767 --> 00:12:21.900
GIVE ME A HANDOUT, BECAUSE
I CAN'T AFFORD TO LIKE

00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:23.400
PLANT CROPS IN
THIS SEASON.

00:12:23.500 --> 00:12:27.101
AND GOD SAID, DON'T. STAY,
BECAUSE I'M WITH YOU.

00:12:27.201 --> 00:12:30.667
AND THEN ISAAC SOWED IN THAT
FAMINE AND REAPED A HUNDREDFOLD

00:12:30.767 --> 00:12:31.700
THAT YEAR.


00:12:31.800 --> 00:12:33.201
WHY IS THIS
SO SIGNIFICANT?

00:12:33.301 --> 00:12:35.400
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T
UNDERSTAND AS CHRISTIANS,

00:12:35.500 --> 00:12:37.501
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT'S
HAPPENING TO BITCOIN.

00:12:37.601 --> 00:12:38.900
IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT'S HAPPENING

00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:40.134
IN THE
REAL ESTATE MARKET.

00:12:40.234 --> 00:12:42.567
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT'S
GOING ON IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.

00:12:42.667 --> 00:12:45.401
WE OPERATE FROM A
DIFFERENT ECONOMY.

00:12:45.501 --> 00:12:50.533
MY KING DOES NOT BEND HIS KNEE
TO PRESIDENT TRUMP OR NETANYAHU

00:12:50.633 --> 00:12:52.733
OR THE
WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.

00:12:52.833 --> 00:12:54.134
IT DOESN'T MATTER.


00:12:54.234 --> 00:12:56.567
MY KING OWNS THE CATTLE
ON A THOUSAND HILLS.

00:12:56.667 --> 00:12:58.633
HE IS EL SHADDAI,
THE ALL SUFFICIENT ONE.

00:12:58.733 --> 00:13:01.500
HE'S JEHOVAH JIREH, HE IS
MY PROVIDER AND MY PROSPERER.

00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.567
AND IF I CAN REMEMBER
THAT, THEN I WILL ALWAYS

00:13:04.667 --> 00:13:05.801
BE THE HEAD AND
NOT THE TAIL.

00:13:05.901 --> 00:13:07.201
I'LL ALWAYS BE
ABOVE AND NOT BELOW.

00:13:07.301 --> 00:13:08.567
I HAVE A COVENANT PROMISE.


00:13:08.667 --> 00:13:11.634
YOU HAVE A COVENANT
PROMISE TO BE THE LENDER

00:13:11.734 --> 00:13:13.000
AND NOT THE BORROWER.


00:13:13.100 --> 00:13:15.567
AND THE DEVIL IS
FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL

00:13:15.667 --> 00:13:17.200
TO MAKE SURE CHRISTIANS
DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

00:13:17.300 --> 00:13:18.367
REBECCA: THAT'S SUCH
A GOOD WORD.

00:13:18.467 --> 00:13:20.201
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK SO
MANY PEOPLE, THE BIBLE SAYS

00:13:20.301 --> 00:13:23.701
THAT DEBT MAKES
US SLAVE, A SLAVE.

00:13:23.801 --> 00:13:26.500
AND SO THERE IS THIS SYSTEM,
THIS SYSTEM OF PHAROAH,

00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:28.101
THE SYSTEM OF
BABYLON THAT'S IN PLACE,

00:13:28.201 --> 00:13:30.167
THAT IS MAKING US
SLAVES TO THE SYSTEM.

00:13:30.267 --> 00:13:32.267
AND MOST CHRISTIANS
DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT.

00:13:32.367 --> 00:13:35.700
KAT: THERE'S A GREAT PHRASE,
BY THE WAY, DEBT ISN'T SIN.

00:13:35.800 --> 00:13:38.567
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
A WEIGHT AND SIN, RIGHT?

00:13:38.667 --> 00:13:43.000
SO I HAVE A MORTGAGE, YOU KNOW,
LIKE I, IT'S NOT IDEAL,

00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:46.100
BUT IT'S ALSO
NOT A SIN.

00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:49.800
BUT I KNOW THIS, LIKE IF
WE WANT TO HAVE INFLUENCE

00:13:49.900 --> 00:13:54.201
IN THE CULTURE, DO YOU
THINK A CHRISTIAN IS GOING TO

00:13:54.301 --> 00:13:56.833
HAVE MORE INFLUENCE
OVER A BANKER

00:13:56.933 --> 00:13:59.567
IF THE CHRISTIAN IS PREACHING
THAT GOD IS A PROVIDER

00:13:59.667 --> 00:14:03.634
AND THEN GOES TO
THE BANKER ASKING FOR A LOAN?

00:14:03.734 --> 00:14:05.967
IN MY MIND, A
WORLDLY BANKER IS GOING TO

00:14:06.067 --> 00:14:07.734
LOOK AT THAT CHRISTIAN AND
SAY, YOU DON'T EVEN REALLY

00:14:07.834 --> 00:14:10.234
BELIEVE WHAT YOU
PREACH ON A SUNDAY.

00:14:10.334 --> 00:14:12.901
IN FACT, I'M GOD TO YOU.


00:14:13.001 --> 00:14:15.433
AND THIS IS THE SAME
ATTITUDE THAT PHARAOH HAD

00:14:15.533 --> 00:14:18.034
TO THE ISRAELITES:
I AM YOUR GOD.

00:14:18.134 --> 00:14:19.301
YOU WILL WORSHIP ME.


00:14:19.401 --> 00:14:21.401
AND THAT'S WHY WHAT MOSES
SAID, ACTUALLY,

00:14:21.501 --> 00:14:22.833
WE'RE GOING
TO GO OUT.

00:14:22.933 --> 00:14:24.134
ISN'T THIS FUNNY?


00:14:24.234 --> 00:14:26.767
WHEN MOSES SAID,
HEY, WE'RE GOING TO,

00:14:26.867 --> 00:14:29.433
I'M ASKING FOR AN APPEAL
FOR THE PEOPLE TO GO

00:14:29.533 --> 00:14:31.467
AND WORSHIP IN THE WILDERNESS
FOR THREE DAYS.

00:14:31.567 --> 00:14:34.733
AND PHARAOH WAS LIKE, NO. IT
REMINDS ME OF SO MANY CHRISTIANS

00:14:34.833 --> 00:14:37.267
WHO ARE LIKE,
HEY, MR. MANAGER,

00:14:37.367 --> 00:14:40.300
MRS. MANAGER, IS IT OKAY
IF I DON'T WORK ON SUNDAY

00:14:40.400 --> 00:14:42.000
SO I CAN GO TO CHURCH?


00:14:42.100 --> 00:14:42.433
NOPE.


00:14:42.533 --> 00:14:43.367
SORRY.


00:14:43.467 --> 00:14:44.633
WE NEED YOU TO TO
RUN THE FRONT DESK.

00:14:44.733 --> 00:14:45.767
WE NEED YOU TO BE,


00:14:45.867 --> 00:14:46.767
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?


00:14:46.867 --> 00:14:48.400
IT'S THE SAME SPIRIT.


00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:51.267
AND I BELIEVE
THAT THAT'S LIKE,

00:14:51.367 --> 00:14:52.367
THAT IS,


00:14:52.467 --> 00:14:55.267
WE'VE BEEN SO PROGRAMED.


00:14:55.367 --> 00:14:58.167
THE ISRAELITES WERE
PROGRAMED WITH THAT THOUGHT

00:14:58.267 --> 00:15:01.833
FOR 430 YEARS, AND IT TOOK
40 YEARS OF THE WILDERNESS

00:15:01.933 --> 00:15:03.134
TO GET IT
OUT OF THEM.

00:15:03.234 --> 00:15:05.267
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE
AT AS CHRISTIANS RIGHT NOW.

00:15:05.367 --> 00:15:06.300
REBECCA: IT WAS SO PROGRAMED


00:15:06.400 --> 00:15:10.201
INTO THE ISRAELITES
THAT RIGHT BEFORE GOD

00:15:10.301 --> 00:15:13.567
PARTS THE RED SEA, THEY'RE
TELLING MOSES, WE TOLD YOU

00:15:13.667 --> 00:15:14.634
WE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE.


00:15:14.734 --> 00:15:15.767
WE WANTED TO STAY HERE.


00:15:15.867 --> 00:15:18.134
KAT: I KNOW!
REBECCA: AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT?

00:15:18.234 --> 00:15:19.667
YOU KNOW, THINKING OF
EVERYTHING THEY WENT THROUGH,

00:15:19.767 --> 00:15:21.001
IT WAS
SUCH A MENTALITY.

00:15:21.101 --> 00:15:22.900
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT WE HAVE TO DO

00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:26.633
IS BREAK OUR OLD MENTALITY
THAT THIS SYSTEM HAS GIVEN US

00:15:26.733 --> 00:15:28.501
AND TAKE
GOD'S MENTALITY.

00:15:28.601 --> 00:15:30.234
WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE
TO PEOPLE LISTENING

00:15:30.334 --> 00:15:32.733
OF HOW
THEY CAN DO THAT?

00:15:32.833 --> 00:15:34.333
KAT: FOR ME?


00:15:34.433 --> 00:15:36.600
I MEAN, YOU CAN READ
MY STORY IN THERE.

00:15:36.700 --> 00:15:40.034
I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A TON
OF TIME, BUT GOD HAD TO

00:15:40.134 --> 00:15:43.200
BRING ME TO THIS PLACE OF
LIKE, EVERYTHING THAT

00:15:43.300 --> 00:15:45.567
I WAS TRYING TO DO IN MY
OWN STRENGTH WASN'T WORKING.

00:15:45.667 --> 00:15:47.701
YEAH, FINANCIALLY
FOR MY FAMILY.

00:15:47.801 --> 00:15:51.433
AND HE ALLOWED ALL THE THINGS
THAT I WAS BUILDING TO LIKE,

00:15:51.533 --> 00:15:53.067
NOT PROSPER.


00:15:53.167 --> 00:15:54.834
THE BIBLE SAYS IN
PSALM ONE, IF YOU,

00:15:54.934 --> 00:15:56.767
I GUESS
THIS IS THE CHARGE,

00:15:56.867 --> 00:15:59.634
IT SAYS IN PSALM ONE, AND
THIS IS WHY THE COVER IS,

00:15:59.734 --> 00:16:01.134
IF YOU WANT TO HOLD UP
THE COVER, ACTUALLY,

00:16:01.234 --> 00:16:04.067
BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN SEE
WHAT THE ACTUAL IMAGE IS.

00:16:04.167 --> 00:16:07.500
THE COVER IS A TREE
THAT'S BEARING FRUIT.

00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:08.767
IT'S GOT MONEY
ON THE TREE.

00:16:08.867 --> 00:16:10.533
KIND OF A PLAY ON WORDS
BECAUSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,

00:16:10.633 --> 00:16:12.801
MONEY DOESN'T GROW ON
TREES, BUT IN GOD'S ECONOMY,

00:16:12.901 --> 00:16:13.667
IT DOES.


00:16:13.767 --> 00:16:15.734
BUT LOOK WHAT
IT'S PLANTED BY.

00:16:15.834 --> 00:16:17.400
IT'S PLANTED BY A RIVER.


00:16:17.500 --> 00:16:19.501
THE BIBLE SAYS IN
PSALM ONE THAT THOSE WHO

00:16:19.601 --> 00:16:21.434
MEDITATE ON THE LAW OF GOD
DAY AND NIGHT

00:16:21.534 --> 00:16:23.833
SHALL BE LIKE A TREE
PLANTED BY THE RIVERSIDE,

00:16:23.933 --> 00:16:28.200
BEARING FRUIT IN EVERY SEASON
AND EVERY RECESSION

00:16:28.300 --> 00:16:29.967
AND EVERY DEPRESSION.


00:16:30.067 --> 00:16:31.667
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT
TIME YOU WERE BORN.

00:16:31.767 --> 00:16:33.567
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PART
OF THE WORLD YOU WERE BORN IN.

00:16:33.667 --> 00:16:36.801
AND THEY WILL PROSPER IN
EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.

00:16:36.901 --> 00:16:37.934
THE WHOLE POINT
OF THIS BOOK,

00:16:38.034 --> 00:16:39.467
ONCE PEOPLE READ IT,


00:16:39.567 --> 00:16:42.400
THEY'RE GOING TO SEE
IT'S SO MUCH SCRIPTURE.

00:16:42.500 --> 00:16:45.134
IT'S, GUYS, WE GOTTA,
WE GOTTA UNLEARN

00:16:45.234 --> 00:16:47.967
AND BREAK AGREEMENTS
WITH MAN-MADE TRADITION

00:16:48.067 --> 00:16:49.934
THAT DOESN'T
LINE UP WITH GOD'S WORD.

00:16:50.034 --> 00:16:52.667
IF GOD DIDN'T SAY IT,
I'M NOT SAYING IT,

00:16:52.767 --> 00:16:54.967
BUT IF GOD'S WORD SAYS
IT, THAT SETTLES IT.

00:16:55.067 --> 00:16:56.167
THAT'S WHERE WE
NEED TO START.

00:16:56.267 --> 00:16:58.301
REBECCA: WE HAVE TO THROW OFF
OUR PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS

00:16:58.401 --> 00:16:59.734
AND PUT THEM ON THE ALTAR.


00:16:59.834 --> 00:17:01.001
AND THAT TAKES HUMILITY.


00:17:01.101 --> 00:17:02.134
KAT: IT DOES.


00:17:02.234 --> 00:17:03.534
REBECCA: AND REPENTANCE,
CHANGING THE WAY WE THINK.

00:17:03.634 --> 00:17:04.434
KAT: BIG-TIME REPENTANCE.


00:17:04.534 --> 00:17:05.800
REBECCA: AND CHANGE.


00:17:05.900 --> 00:17:08.567
AND EVEN I THINK PUTTING ON THE
ALTAR OUR IMAGE OF OURSELVES,

00:17:08.667 --> 00:17:10.134
BECAUSE SOMETIMES I THINK
SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE,

00:17:10.234 --> 00:17:11.234
I DON'T WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THIS

00:17:11.334 --> 00:17:12.667
BECAUSE I CARE WHAT
PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ME.

00:17:12.767 --> 00:17:13.867
KAT: THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T
WANT TO WRITE IT.

00:17:13.967 --> 00:17:17.033
REBECCA: BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH
A STIGMA AROUND MONEY.

00:17:17.133 --> 00:17:18.834
BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID

00:17:18.934 --> 00:17:20.134
WHEN I WAS LISTENING
TO YOUR CONTENT IS,

00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.900
YOU SAID
CHRISTIANS WERE MADE

00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:24.433
NOT TO BEG
BUT TO BUILD.

00:17:24.533 --> 00:17:29.334
AND I KNOW, SO I'VE
SEEN SO MANY MINISTERS STRUGGLE

00:17:29.434 --> 00:17:31.601
AND BEG AND NOT THRIVE.


00:17:31.701 --> 00:17:33.000
AND THEIR MINISTRIES
DON'T THRIVE.

00:17:33.100 --> 00:17:35.067
LIKE YOU SAID, THEIR
FAMILIES DON'T THRIVE.

00:17:35.167 --> 00:17:39.367
AND WE'RE NOT, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE
TO BE A SLAVE TO THE SYSTEM

00:17:39.467 --> 00:17:40.034
OR BEGGING.


00:17:40.134 --> 00:17:41.834
WE SHOULD BE PROSPERING.


00:17:41.934 --> 00:17:46.134
BECAUSE IF MINISTERS PROSPER,
THE KINGDOM PROSPERS.

00:17:46.234 --> 00:17:47.534
KAT: 100%, YEAH.


00:17:47.634 --> 00:17:48.934
AND ONE OF MY FAVORITES,


00:17:49.034 --> 00:17:52.700
OH MY GOSH, WE COULD TALK ABOUT
THE MINISTRY ANGLE FOR FOREVER,

00:17:52.800 --> 00:17:54.567
BUT I'LL
JUST SAY THIS.

00:17:54.667 --> 00:17:58.301
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT A
MINISTER'S JOB TO EVER BEG

00:17:58.401 --> 00:18:01.100
FOR MONEY FROM
PEOPLE, EVER.

00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.101
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT
PEOPLE SHOULDN'T GIVE TO

00:18:03.201 --> 00:18:04.501
THE WORK OF THE MINISTRY.


00:18:04.601 --> 00:18:06.334
BUT I LOVE WHAT PAUL SAID.


00:18:06.434 --> 00:18:07.600
PAUL SAID IN
PHILIPPIANS FOUR,

00:18:07.700 --> 00:18:10.801
HE SAID, NOT THAT I WAS
SEEKING THE GIFT FROM YOU,

00:18:10.901 --> 00:18:14.367
BUT I WAS SEEKING WHAT WAS GOING
TO BE ADDED TO YOUR ACCOUNT.

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A MINISTER NEEDS TO FIRST.


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SHEPHERDS ALWAYS GO FIRST.


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A MINISTER FIRST NEEDS TO
HAVE THE REVELATION OF,

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IF THIS PERSON
DOESN'T PAY THE,

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YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T
GIVE THEIR TITHE,

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IT DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE
JUST LIKE WITH ELIJAH,

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GOD WILL SEND THE RAVENS TO
DROP THE FOOD INTO MY LAP

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TO MOVE THIS
THING FORWARD.

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BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION
THAT I'M NOT GOING TO

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ALLOW A LACK
OR A FEAR OF LACK,

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KEEP ME FROM
FULFILLING MY ASSIGNMENT.

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AND THEN, REALLY, THE
INVITATION FOR PEOPLE IS,

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HEY, YOU'RE INVESTING IN
CRYPTO, YOU'RE INVESTING

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IN THE S&P 500, YOU'RE INVESTING
IN ALL THESE PORTFOLIOS

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WHERE THERE'S ALL THIS RISK
AND MAYBE SOME UPSIDE.

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BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAS
THE BEST UPSIDE AND NO RISK

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ATTACHED TO IT? SOWING INTO GOOD
SOIL FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

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AND IF PEOPLE WOULD JUST
SOW INTO GOOD SOIL,

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THEY'LL BE BLESSED.


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THE MINISTRY WILL BE
BLESSED, AND THE DEVIL WILL

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HAVE A REALLY BAD DAY.


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REBECCA: AMEN.


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WELL, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.


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THIS IS SUCH A GOOD WORD.
AND<i>THE POWER TO PROSPER</i> .

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WHERE CAN PEOPLE GET IT?


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KAT: THEY CAN GET IT PRETTY MUCH
EVERYWHERE, I'VE BEEN TOLD.

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SO LIKE IF IF THEY
SELL CHRISTIAN BOOKS,

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YOU CAN PROBABLY
GET IT THERE.

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OR YOU COULD GO TO
THEPOWERTOPROSPERBOOK.COM.

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REBECCA: WELL, THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

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REALLY APPRECIATE IT.


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KAT: YEAH, THANKS SO MUCH.