WEBVTT 00:00:09.867 --> 00:00:12.434 >> I'M SO EXCITED, GUYS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WANTING 00:00:12.534 --> 00:00:14.034 TO HAVE THIS GUEST ON. 00:00:14.134 --> 00:00:17.100 WE ARE JOINED TODAY WITH BILL WIESE CLOSE 00:00:17.200 --> 00:00:18.767 TO MY LAST NAME, WEISS. 00:00:18.867 --> 00:00:19.701 >> RIGHT. 00:00:19.801 --> 00:00:20.501 EXACTLY. 00:00:20.601 --> 00:00:21.501 >> SO AWESOME TO HAVE YOU HERE. 00:00:21.601 --> 00:00:23.134 >> OH, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE WITH YOU. 00:00:23.234 --> 00:00:24.367 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 00:00:24.467 --> 00:00:27.867 >> HOW MANY YEARS HAVE YOU BEEN TELLING THIS STORY NOW? 00:00:27.967 --> 00:00:32.134 >> OVER 20 YEARS, FULL TIME AND 28 YEARS ALTOGETHER. 00:00:32.234 --> 00:00:32.634 >> YEAH. 00:00:32.734 --> 00:00:33.767 SO BUT FULL TIME 00:00:33.867 --> 00:00:36.200 WE'VE BEEN ON THE ROAD, TRAVELING AND SPEAKING. 00:00:36.300 --> 00:00:37.801 >> WAS MINISTRY -- 00:00:37.901 --> 00:00:40.800 DID YOU GET INTO MINISTRY AFTER YOUR EXPERIENCE? 00:00:40.900 --> 00:00:41.933 >> YES. 00:00:42.033 --> 00:00:44.267 I MEAN, I SERVED AT OUR CHURCH THAT I ATTENDED, 00:00:44.367 --> 00:00:46.400 AND I WAS ONE OF THE WORSHIP LEADERS, 00:00:46.500 --> 00:00:48.634 AND I TAUGHT OCCASIONALLY AT OUR CHURCH, 00:00:48.734 --> 00:00:50.667 BUT I WASN'T IN MINISTRY FULL TIME. 00:00:50.767 --> 00:00:54.067 NOW, YOU KNOW, WE WENT INTO MINISTRY FULL TIME AFTER 00:00:54.167 --> 00:00:56.000 THE BOOK CAME OUT. 00:00:56.100 --> 00:00:59.367 SO THAT WAS IN 2006 WHEN THE BOOK CAME OUT. 00:00:59.467 --> 00:01:01.900 BUT WE TRAVELED FOR SEVEN YEARS PRIOR TO THE BOOK 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.200 COMING OUT BECAUSE I SHARED IT WITH ONE CLOSE 00:01:04.300 --> 00:01:06.167 FRIEND, AND IT SPREAD FROM THERE. 00:01:06.267 --> 00:01:07.233 >> YEAH. 00:01:07.333 --> 00:01:08.334 >> AND WE GOT INVITED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 00:01:08.434 --> 00:01:10.767 THERE WAS NO BOOK THEN, AND SO WE TRAVELED FOR 00:01:10.867 --> 00:01:12.467 THOSE FIRST SEVEN YEARS AND THEN GOT INTO 00:01:12.567 --> 00:01:14.234 FULL-TIME MINISTRY AFTER THAT, 00:01:14.334 --> 00:01:15.367 HAD TO LEAVE OUR CAREERS. 00:01:15.467 --> 00:01:17.734 >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY IMPRESSES ME 00:01:17.834 --> 00:01:21.300 ABOUT YOU IS THAT YOU TOOK THIS EXPERIENCE THAT GOD 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.167 GAVE YOU, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A HARD EXPERIENCE. 00:01:23.267 --> 00:01:24.567 WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO YOUR STORY, 00:01:24.667 --> 00:01:25.967 BUT YOU'VE STEWARDED SO WELL. 00:01:26.067 --> 00:01:28.100 AND GOD'S, I THINK, HAS OPENED UP ALL THESE DOORS 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:29.834 FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR 00:01:29.934 --> 00:01:33.134 PEOPLE TO HEAR, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE HEAVENLY 00:01:33.234 --> 00:01:35.267 EXPERIENCES AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S SO GREAT AND THOSE 00:01:35.367 --> 00:01:36.400 ARE IMPORTANT AS WELL. 00:01:36.500 --> 00:01:38.067 BUT THE REALITY OF HELL IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T 00:01:38.167 --> 00:01:40.934 EVEN THINK MOST OF US REALLY THINK ABOUT. 00:01:41.034 --> 00:01:43.267 AND WHEN YOU'RE FACED WITH THAT REALITY, 00:01:43.367 --> 00:01:45.200 I THINK IT REALLY TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION 00:01:45.300 --> 00:01:47.467 THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE SITUATION. 00:01:47.567 --> 00:01:48.733 >> IT REALLY DOES. 00:01:48.833 --> 00:01:51.767 IT'S CHANGED MY LIFE IN A SENSE OF HAVING SUCH A PASSION. 00:01:51.867 --> 00:01:52.967 IT DID THREE THINGS. 00:01:53.067 --> 00:01:55.333 IT CAUSED ME TO APPRECIATE MUCH MORE THAN MAYBE WE DO 00:01:55.433 --> 00:01:58.267 OUR OWN SALVATION FROM WHAT WE WERE SAVED FROM. 00:01:58.367 --> 00:01:59.667 WHEN YOU KNOW HOW HORRIBLE HELL IS, 00:01:59.767 --> 00:02:01.867 YOU ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR WHAT HE SAVED YOU FROM. 00:02:01.967 --> 00:02:04.501 NUMBER TWO, IT CAUSES US AS CHRISTIANS TO WALK MORE 00:02:04.601 --> 00:02:07.867 IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD, WHICH MEANS YOU RESPECT 00:02:07.967 --> 00:02:10.200 GOD ENOUGH TO OBEY HIM. 00:02:10.300 --> 00:02:12.167 AND THEN, NUMBER THREE, IT GAVE ME MORE OF A PASSION 00:02:12.267 --> 00:02:14.467 FOR THE LOST, A DESIRE TO WITNESS. 00:02:14.567 --> 00:02:15.400 YOU NOT JUST PRAY 00:02:15.500 --> 00:02:17.034 A LIGHT LITTLE PRAYER FOR YOUR UNSAVED 00:02:17.134 --> 00:02:18.134 FAMILY OR WHATEVER. 00:02:18.234 --> 00:02:20.401 BUT I MEAN TO GET ON YOUR KNEES, CRY OUT TO GOD, 00:02:20.501 --> 00:02:22.534 AND PRAY THAT GOD WILL GIVE HIM A DREAM OR A VISION. 00:02:22.634 --> 00:02:24.900 SEND PEOPLE ACROSS OUR PATH THAT THEY WOULD RESPECT. 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:26.700 YOU'LL BE MORE PASSIONATE. 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:29.234 YOU KNOW, 2 CORINTHIANS 5:10 AND 11 PAUL SAID, 00:02:29.334 --> 00:02:31.534 KNOWING THEREFORE THE TERROR OF THE LORD, 00:02:31.634 --> 00:02:32.967 WE PERSUADE MEN. 00:02:33.067 --> 00:02:34.633 SO WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERROR OF THE JUDGMENT 00:02:34.733 --> 00:02:37.934 IN HELL, YOU WILL BE MORE PERSUASIVE WITH THE GOSPEL 00:02:38.034 --> 00:02:39.167 SHARING THE WAY OF SALVATION, 00:02:39.267 --> 00:02:40.900 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GO THERE. 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:43.000 AND THAT'S GOD'S HEART, IS TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT 00:02:43.100 --> 00:02:44.401 OF THIS HORRIBLE PLACE. 00:02:44.501 --> 00:02:45.401 >> ABSOLUTELY. 00:02:45.501 --> 00:02:48.934 GOD DID NOT INTEND HELL FOR US, CORRECT? 00:02:49.034 --> 00:02:51.267 >> IT WAS PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. 00:02:51.367 --> 00:02:53.134 IT'S AN INTERESTING WORD HE USED PREPARED, 00:02:53.234 --> 00:02:56.000 WHICH IS THE SAME WORD HE USED FOR US IN HEAVEN. 00:02:56.100 --> 00:02:57.933 JOHN 14:2, WHERE HE GOES TO PREPARE A PLACE 00:02:58.033 --> 00:02:59.267 FOR US IN HEAVEN. 00:02:59.367 --> 00:03:02.234 SO HE PREPARED HEAVEN FOR US, HELL FOR THE DEVIL, YOU KNOW. 00:03:02.334 --> 00:03:03.967 SO HE DIDN'T INTEND FOR MAN TO GO THERE, 00:03:04.067 --> 00:03:06.900 BUT BECAUSE HE'S GIVEN MAN A FREE WILL TO CHOOSE, 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:07.967 MAN CAN REJECT GOD 00:03:08.067 --> 00:03:09.667 AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY END UP. 00:03:09.767 --> 00:03:10.734 >> YEAH. 00:03:10.834 --> 00:03:12.801 IS THERE A VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS HELL 00:03:12.901 --> 00:03:14.001 HAS ENLARGED ITSELF? 00:03:14.101 --> 00:03:14.401 >> YEAH. 00:03:14.501 --> 00:03:14.833 >> YEAH. 00:03:14.933 --> 00:03:15.667 OKAY. 00:03:15.767 --> 00:03:16.601 BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE. 00:03:16.701 --> 00:03:17.401 >> YEAH. 00:03:17.501 --> 00:03:19.133 IT IS HELL HAS ENLARGED ITSELF. 00:03:19.233 --> 00:03:21.334 HONESTLY, I FORGOT WHERE THAT ONE'S AT. 00:03:21.434 --> 00:03:22.434 >> ME TOO. 00:03:22.534 --> 00:03:24.400 BUT IT'S KIND OF, IT'S SPEAKING TO THAT IT WAS 00:03:24.500 --> 00:03:26.833 NEVER INTENDED FOR PEOPLE TO GO THERE. 00:03:26.933 --> 00:03:27.667 >> EXACTLY. 00:03:27.767 --> 00:03:28.633 >> YEAH. 00:03:28.733 --> 00:03:29.733 >> YEAH, HE DOESN'T WANT THEM TO GO THERE. 00:03:29.833 --> 00:03:31.701 >> BUT HE WON'T FORCE ANYONE TO GO TO HEAVEN. 00:03:31.801 --> 00:03:33.367 THAT'S REALLY HOW IT BOILS DOWN TO. 00:03:33.467 --> 00:03:34.633 >> RIGHT? 00:03:34.733 --> 00:03:37.400 AND A GOD OF LOVE WOULD NEVER FORCE ANYTHING ON ANYBODY. 00:03:37.500 --> 00:03:39.100 YOU KNOW, HE HAS TO GIVE YOU A FREE WILL TO CHOOSE. 00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:41.567 IT WOULD BE LIKE YOUR HUSBAND WOULDN'T FORCE YOU 00:03:41.667 --> 00:03:42.733 TO LOVE HIM. 00:03:42.833 --> 00:03:45.001 YOU KNOW, YOU LOVE HIM BECAUSE YOU WANT TO LOVE HIM 00:03:45.101 --> 00:03:46.367 AND THAT'S THE SAME WAY GOD IS. 00:03:46.467 --> 00:03:49.500 YOU KNOW, HE GAVE HIS LIFE FOR US ON THE CROSS. 00:03:49.600 --> 00:03:51.734 HE PROVED HIS LOVE FOR US BY DYING ON THE CROSS TO 00:03:51.834 --> 00:03:52.934 KEEP US OUT OF HELL. 00:03:53.034 --> 00:03:55.367 >> OKAY, SO LET'S GET INTO THE STORY. 00:03:55.467 --> 00:03:59.334 SO WHEN DID YOUR ENCOUNTER, 00:03:59.434 --> 00:04:01.601 IT WAS AN OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCE, CORRECT? 00:04:01.701 --> 00:04:02.234 WHEN DID IT HAPPEN? 00:04:02.334 --> 00:04:03.167 AND GIVE US THE STORY. 00:04:03.267 --> 00:04:06.134 >> THIS WAS IN NOVEMBER 23RD, 1998. 00:04:06.234 --> 00:04:07.667 AND THIS WAS NOT A NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE. 00:04:07.767 --> 00:04:09.367 THIS WAS AN OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCE THAT WOULD BE 00:04:09.467 --> 00:04:11.467 CLASSIFIED AS A VISION IN THE BIBLE. 00:04:11.567 --> 00:04:13.501 IN 2 CORINTHIANS 12:1 AND 2, 00:04:13.601 --> 00:04:15.667 WHEN PAUL WAS CAUGHT UP INTO HEAVEN IN A VISION, 00:04:15.767 --> 00:04:17.367 HE SAID, WHETHER IN THE BODY OR OUT OF THE BODY, 00:04:17.467 --> 00:04:18.034 HE DIDN'T KNOW. 00:04:18.134 --> 00:04:19.167 >> YEAH. 00:04:19.267 --> 00:04:20.734 >> WELL, THE LORD SHOWED ME THAT I LEFT MY BODY. 00:04:20.834 --> 00:04:22.434 SO IN A VISION YOU CAN ACTUALLY TRAVEL LIKE PAUL 00:04:22.534 --> 00:04:24.600 AND JOHN ACTUALLY TRAVELED TO HEAVEN 00:04:24.700 --> 00:04:26.067 IN THEIR SPIRIT BODIES. 00:04:26.167 --> 00:04:28.833 1 CORINTHIANS 15:44 TALKS ABOUT A NATURAL BODY 00:04:28.933 --> 00:04:30.467 AND A SPIRIT BODY. 00:04:30.567 --> 00:04:32.034 IN EZEKIEL CHAPTER 8, 00:04:32.134 --> 00:04:34.900 HE TRAVELED FROM BABYLON TO JERUSALEM IN HIS SPIRIT 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.501 BODY IN A VISION, AND HE WAS TOLD TO EAT. 00:04:37.601 --> 00:04:38.901 HE EXPERIENCED THE SWEETNESS OF THE FOOD 00:04:39.001 --> 00:04:39.501 IN HIS STOMACH. 00:04:39.601 --> 00:04:40.001 HE WEPT. 00:04:40.101 --> 00:04:41.101 HE CONVERSED. 00:04:41.201 --> 00:04:43.034 MY POINT IS, IN A VISION, YOU CAN EXPERIENCE THE 00:04:43.134 --> 00:04:45.201 SAME THINGS IN YOUR SPIRIT BODY THAT YOU WOULD IN 00:04:45.301 --> 00:04:46.967 YOUR PHYSICAL BODY. 00:04:47.067 --> 00:04:49.301 AND IN JOB 7:14 IT SAYS, YOU SCARE ME WITH DREAMS 00:04:49.401 --> 00:04:51.433 AND TERRIFY ME THROUGH VISIONS. 00:04:51.533 --> 00:04:52.900 YOU CAN HAVE A TERRIFYING VISION. 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:53.901 ISAIAH 21:2, 00:04:54.001 --> 00:04:55.867 HE WAS GIVEN A GRIEVOUS VISION. 00:04:55.967 --> 00:04:58.701 AND IN JOB 4:14, ELIPHAZ WAS GIVEN A VISION THAT 00:04:58.801 --> 00:05:00.567 CAUSED HIS BONES TO SHAKE. 00:05:00.667 --> 00:05:02.101 SO YOU CAN HAVE A GRIEVOUS, TERRIFYING, 00:05:02.201 --> 00:05:03.933 BONE-SHAKING VISION. 00:05:04.033 --> 00:05:05.434 AND THIS IS NOT TO COMPARE MY EXPERIENCE WITH ANY OF 00:05:05.534 --> 00:05:06.667 THE GREAT MEN IN THE BIBLE. 00:05:06.767 --> 00:05:08.801 I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU A SCRIPTURAL BASIS OF 00:05:08.901 --> 00:05:10.100 HOW THIS CAN OCCUR. 00:05:10.200 --> 00:05:12.500 THE ONLY WAY A CHRISTIAN CAN SEE HELL IS IN A DREAM 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:13.600 OR A VISION. 00:05:13.700 --> 00:05:16.001 I WAS A CHRISTIAN FOR 28 YEARS WHEN THIS OCCURRED, 00:05:16.101 --> 00:05:17.834 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. 00:05:17.934 --> 00:05:20.034 >> SO YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED. 00:05:20.134 --> 00:05:23.133 SO WHAT HAPPENS AND WHAT ARE YOU THINKING 00:05:23.233 --> 00:05:24.367 WHEN THIS HAPPENS? 00:05:24.467 --> 00:05:26.067 >> WELL, WE WENT TO A PRAYER MEETING WE ATTENDED 00:05:26.167 --> 00:05:26.900 EVERY SUNDAY NIGHT. 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:28.367 NOTHING UNUSUAL ABOUT THE NIGHT. 00:05:28.467 --> 00:05:29.901 I HAD NEVER STUDIED THE TOPIC OF HELL 00:05:30.001 --> 00:05:31.201 AT THAT POINT. 00:05:31.301 --> 00:05:32.167 I KNEW I WAS -- 00:05:32.267 --> 00:05:34.301 IT WAS FIERY AND I WASN'T GOING THERE. 00:05:34.401 --> 00:05:35.767 I'VE NEVER GONE TO DARK MOVIES. 00:05:35.867 --> 00:05:37.934 I'VE NEVER DRANK, I'VE NEVER TAKEN DRUGS. 00:05:38.034 --> 00:05:40.800 AND SO THIS WAS NOT THE CAUSE OF THIS HAPPENING. 00:05:40.900 --> 00:05:42.867 AND I NEVER HAD A VISION BEFORE. 00:05:42.967 --> 00:05:44.267 WE CAME HOME, WENT TO BED... 00:05:44.367 --> 00:05:45.433 >> WOW. 00:05:45.533 --> 00:05:46.501 >> AND GOT UP AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING JUST TO GET A 00:05:46.601 --> 00:05:49.200 GLASS OF WATER, AND SUDDENLY I WAS PULLED OUT 00:05:49.300 --> 00:05:51.901 OF MY BODY, LIKE BEING DRAWN UP OUT OF YOUR BODY. 00:05:52.001 --> 00:05:54.300 AND I SAW MY BODY FALL TO THE FLOOR, 00:05:54.400 --> 00:05:56.967 AND I STARTED TUMBLING DOWN THIS LONG TUNNEL. 00:05:57.067 --> 00:05:59.200 AND IT WAS GETTING HOTTER AND HOTTER 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:01.334 AND DARKER AND DARKER. 00:06:01.434 --> 00:06:04.334 AND THEN I PASSED THROUGH THIS OPEN CAVERN AREA, 00:06:04.434 --> 00:06:07.134 AND I LANDED ON AN ACTUAL STONE FLOOR IN A PRISON 00:06:07.234 --> 00:06:08.967 CELL IN HELL. 00:06:09.067 --> 00:06:11.334 I HAD NO IDEA HOW I GOT THERE OR WHY I WAS THERE. 00:06:11.434 --> 00:06:13.967 NOTHING WAS EXPLAINED UNTIL THE WAY BACK, 00:06:14.067 --> 00:06:17.834 BUT IT WAS ROUGH HEWN STONE WALLS AND BARS, 00:06:17.934 --> 00:06:21.634 FILTHY, STINKING, DIRTY, BUT LIKE A DUNGEON. 00:06:21.734 --> 00:06:24.133 BUT ISAIAH 24:22 SAYS, AND THEY SHALL BE GATHERED 00:06:24.233 --> 00:06:26.634 TOGETHER AS PRISONERS ARE GATHERED IN THE PIT, 00:06:26.734 --> 00:06:29.034 AND SHALL BE SHUT UP IN THE PRISON. 00:06:29.134 --> 00:06:31.933 PROVERBS 7:27 MENTIONS GOING DOWN TO HELL TO THE 00:06:32.033 --> 00:06:33.701 CHAMBERS OF DEATH. 00:06:33.801 --> 00:06:35.867 THE WORD CHAMBERS MEANS INNER ROOMS. 00:06:35.967 --> 00:06:40.000 JOB 17:16 SAYS, THEY SHALL GO DOWN TO THE BARS OF THE PIT. 00:06:40.100 --> 00:06:41.600 JONAH 2:6, THE EARTH WITH HER BARS WAS 00:06:41.700 --> 00:06:43.034 ABOUT ME FOREVER. 00:06:43.134 --> 00:06:44.900 SO THAT'S WHERE I FIRST FOUND MYSELF IN THIS 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.901 PRISON CELL WITH LITERAL BARS AND GATES. 00:06:48.001 --> 00:06:51.034 AND THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WAS THE INTENSE HEAT. 00:06:51.134 --> 00:06:52.667 IT WAS LIKE A BLAST FURNACE. 00:06:52.767 --> 00:06:53.601 HOW COULD I BE ALIVE? 00:06:53.701 --> 00:06:56.000 I SHOULD BE DEAD IN THIS PLACE. 00:06:56.100 --> 00:06:59.200 AND I WANTED TO GET UP AND RUN OUT OF THE CELL. 00:06:59.300 --> 00:07:00.800 THAT WAS MY FIRST REACTION, 00:07:00.900 --> 00:07:03.567 BUT I NOTICED I HAD NO PHYSICAL STRENGTH IN MY BODY. 00:07:03.667 --> 00:07:05.300 I THOUGHT, WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY BODY? 00:07:05.400 --> 00:07:06.967 BUT ISAIAH 14:9 AND 10 SAYS, 00:07:07.067 --> 00:07:09.567 HELL FROM BENEATH IS MOVED TO MEET THEE 00:07:09.667 --> 00:07:10.601 AT THY COMING. 00:07:10.701 --> 00:07:14.234 THEY WILL SAY, ART THOU BECOME WEAK AS WE? 00:07:14.334 --> 00:07:16.834 IN PSALMS 84 SAYS, I AM COUNTED WITH THEM THAT 00:07:16.934 --> 00:07:18.233 GO DOWN INTO THE PIT. 00:07:18.333 --> 00:07:20.567 I AM AS A MAN THAT HAS NO STRENGTH. 00:07:20.667 --> 00:07:22.267 SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO ENDURE FOR ALL 00:07:22.367 --> 00:07:24.134 ETERNITY, YOU'RE COMPLETELY VOID 00:07:24.234 --> 00:07:25.401 OF PHYSICAL STRENGTH. 00:07:25.501 --> 00:07:26.601 AND DEMONS HAVE GREAT STRENGTH. 00:07:26.701 --> 00:07:28.134 YOU HAVE NONE. 00:07:28.234 --> 00:07:29.933 SO I LOOKED UP AND I SAW THESE TWO DEMONS THAT WERE 00:07:30.033 --> 00:07:31.234 IN THE CELL. 00:07:31.334 --> 00:07:33.267 THEY WERE REPTILISH IN APPEARANCE, 00:07:33.367 --> 00:07:36.167 BUMPS AND SCALES ALL OVER THE ONE'S BODY. 00:07:36.267 --> 00:07:37.667 HUGE JAW. 00:07:37.767 --> 00:07:40.934 AND THESE PARTICULAR TWO WERE ABOUT 12 OR 13 FEET TALL. 00:07:41.034 --> 00:07:42.001 THAT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION. 00:07:42.101 --> 00:07:42.734 THERE'S SCRIPTURE FOR THAT, 00:07:42.834 --> 00:07:43.901 BUT I'LL KEEP MOVING. 00:07:44.001 --> 00:07:44.567 >> DO THEY -- 00:07:44.667 --> 00:07:46.334 DID THEY LOOK LIKE HUMAN, 00:07:46.434 --> 00:07:47.400 LIKE HYBRID ALMOST? 00:07:47.500 --> 00:07:49.834 LIKE, LIKE ALMOST LIKE A DRAGON? 00:07:49.934 --> 00:07:51.434 BUT LIKE THEY HAD LIKE A HUMAN BUILD? 00:07:51.534 --> 00:07:54.267 >> THEY HAD A HUMAN BUILD, LIKE ARMS AND LEGS, 00:07:54.367 --> 00:07:56.134 BUT THEY WERE DEFORMED. 00:07:56.234 --> 00:07:57.467 NO SYMMETRY TO THEIR BODIES. 00:07:57.567 --> 00:07:58.601 ONE LEG BIGGER THAN THE OTHER, 00:07:58.701 --> 00:08:00.267 ONE ARM SHORTER THAN THE OTHER. 00:08:00.367 --> 00:08:04.267 TWISTED, DEFORMED AND REALLY GROTESQUE-LOOKING, HIDEOUS. 00:08:04.367 --> 00:08:06.933 THEY WERE BLASPHEMING AND CURSING GOD. 00:08:07.033 --> 00:08:08.600 I UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT BLASPHEMY COMES 00:08:08.700 --> 00:08:10.000 FROM THE DEMONIC REALM. 00:08:10.100 --> 00:08:12.934 REVELATION 13:6, JAMES 2:7 AND SOME OTHERS. 00:08:13.034 --> 00:08:15.001 THEN THEY DIRECTED THIS HATRED THEY HAD FOR GOD. 00:08:15.101 --> 00:08:16.933 THEY DIRECTED TOWARDS ME. 00:08:17.033 --> 00:08:18.867 I WONDER WHY, WHAT HAVE I DONE TO THEM? 00:08:18.967 --> 00:08:20.934 BUT THE ONE DEMON PICKED ME UP AND THREW ME 00:08:21.034 --> 00:08:21.600 INTO THE WALL, 00:08:21.700 --> 00:08:22.767 THIS PRISON CELL. 00:08:22.867 --> 00:08:25.434 I HIT THE WALL SO HARD, I FELT AS IF EVERY BONE IN 00:08:25.534 --> 00:08:27.467 MY BODY HAD BROKEN. 00:08:27.567 --> 00:08:28.900 AND I WONDERED, HOW COULD I BE ALIVE? 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:30.267 I SHOULD BE DEAD. 00:08:30.367 --> 00:08:31.334 BUT I HAVE TO EXPLAIN ONE THING. 00:08:31.467 --> 00:08:33.734 I UNDERSTOOD THAT MOST OF THE PAIN THAT I NORMALLY 00:08:33.834 --> 00:08:36.533 WOULD HAVE FELT FROM THAT WAS BEING BLOCKED. 00:08:36.633 --> 00:08:37.900 I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, BUT ON THE WAY BACK THE LORD 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:40.733 EXPLAINED HE BLOCKED IT, BUT HE DID ALLOW ME TO 00:08:40.833 --> 00:08:42.834 FEEL SOME OF IT, SO I COULD RELATE TO PEOPLE. 00:08:42.934 --> 00:08:44.767 IT'S NOT METAPHORICAL PAIN. 00:08:44.867 --> 00:08:47.367 IT'S REAL, LITERAL PAIN YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL IN HELL. 00:08:47.467 --> 00:08:48.601 THANK GOD HE BLOCKED MOST OF IT. 00:08:48.701 --> 00:08:49.634 >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. 00:08:49.734 --> 00:08:50.700 >> YEAH. 00:08:50.800 --> 00:08:52.401 AND THEN THE OTHER DEMON GRABBED ME AND PICKED ME 00:08:52.501 --> 00:08:55.101 UP FROM BEHIND AND DUG ITS CLAWS IN MY CHEST AND JUST 00:08:55.201 --> 00:08:57.134 TORE THE FLESH OPEN. 00:08:57.234 --> 00:08:58.600 IT JUST HUNG LIKE RIBBONS. 00:08:58.700 --> 00:08:59.700 I NOTICED I HAD A BODY. 00:08:59.800 --> 00:09:02.167 MATTHEW 10:28 SAYS, FEAR HIM WHO WAS ABLE TO 00:09:02.267 --> 00:09:04.900 DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL. 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.334 AND LUKE 16, A RICH MAN, REMEMBER HE HAD A MOUTH TO 00:09:07.434 --> 00:09:08.300 SPEAK AND SO FORTH. 00:09:08.400 --> 00:09:09.933 BUT I NOTICED IT WAS ALL DRY. 00:09:10.033 --> 00:09:12.234 THERE WAS NO BLOOD OR WATER COMING FROM THE WOUNDS. 00:09:12.334 --> 00:09:13.233 >> INTERESTING. 00:09:13.333 --> 00:09:15.033 >> BUT LEVITICUS 17:11 SAYS, 00:09:15.133 --> 00:09:17.567 THE LIFE OF THE FLESH IS IN THE BLOOD. 00:09:17.667 --> 00:09:20.301 WELL, THERE'S NO LIFE IN HELL, SO THERE'S NO BLOOD. 00:09:20.401 --> 00:09:21.601 >> INTERESTING. 00:09:21.701 --> 00:09:24.734 >> AND ZECHARIAH 9:11 SAYS, THY PRISONERS OUT OF THE PIT, 00:09:24.834 --> 00:09:26.267 WHERE THERE IS NO WATER, 00:09:26.367 --> 00:09:27.867 THERE'S NOT ONE DROP OF WATER IN HELL. 00:09:27.967 --> 00:09:28.901 >> THERE'S NO LIFE. 00:09:29.001 --> 00:09:30.033 >> THERE'S NO LIFE AT ALL. 00:09:30.133 --> 00:09:31.933 IT'S BARREN, DESOLATE, DEAD. 00:09:32.033 --> 00:09:33.867 THERE IS NOT ONE GREEN THING. 00:09:33.967 --> 00:09:36.033 ISAIAH 59:10 SAYS, WE ARE DESOLATE, 00:09:36.133 --> 00:09:38.600 DESOLATE PLACES AS DEAD MEN, SO FORTH. 00:09:38.700 --> 00:09:42.200 SO NO LIFE WHATSOEVER. 00:09:42.300 --> 00:09:45.467 AND THESE DEMONS HAVE NO MERCY OVER YOU AT ALL. 00:09:45.567 --> 00:09:48.601 BUT PSALMS 1:17 SAYS, THE MERCY OF THE LORD IS UPON 00:09:48.701 --> 00:09:50.434 THOSE THAT FEAR HIM. 00:09:50.534 --> 00:09:51.900 WELL, THEY DON'T FEAR HIM IN HELL. 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.833 YOU DON'T DERIVE THE BENEFIT OF EVEN MERCY. 00:09:54.933 --> 00:09:56.900 NOW ABOUT THIS TIME IT WENT DARK. 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.767 NOW I BELIEVED IT WAS GOD'S PRESENCE THERE TO 00:09:58.867 --> 00:10:00.767 ILLUMINATE IT SO I COULD SEE. 00:10:00.867 --> 00:10:03.000 BUT THEN HE WITHDREW HIS ATTRIBUTE OF LIGHT, 00:10:03.100 --> 00:10:06.000 AND IT RETURNED TO ITS NORMAL STATE OF ABSOLUTE 00:10:06.100 --> 00:10:08.801 PITCH BLACK DARKNESS. 00:10:08.901 --> 00:10:11.167 I MEAN, YOU COULD NOT SEE THE HAND IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE. 00:10:11.267 --> 00:10:12.800 BUT LAMENTATIONS 3:6 SAYS, 00:10:12.900 --> 00:10:15.367 HE HAS SET ME IN DARK PLACES AS THEY THAT BE 00:10:15.467 --> 00:10:16.667 DEAD OF OLD. 00:10:16.767 --> 00:10:19.467 JUDE 13 MENTIONS BLACKNESS OF DARKNESS FOREVER. 00:10:19.567 --> 00:10:20.567 BUT IT WASN'T JUST DARK. 00:10:20.667 --> 00:10:22.901 YOU COULD ACTUALLY FEEL THE DARKNESS 00:10:23.001 --> 00:10:24.267 AND THAT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION. 00:10:24.367 --> 00:10:27.867 EXODUS 10:21 MENTIONS A DARKNESS THAT MAY BE FELT. 00:10:27.967 --> 00:10:29.767 IT JUST PENETRATES THROUGH EVERY CELL IN YOUR BODY. 00:10:29.867 --> 00:10:31.701 IT'S SO DARK. 00:10:31.801 --> 00:10:33.134 I WAS TAKEN OUT OF THIS PRISON CELL. 00:10:33.234 --> 00:10:36.533 I WAS PLACED OVER NEXT TO THIS LARGE RAGING PIT OF FIRE. 00:10:36.633 --> 00:10:38.300 THIS PIT WAS ABOUT A MILE ACROSS, 00:10:38.400 --> 00:10:41.667 LIKE A HOLE IN THE GROUND WITH FILLED WITH FIRE 00:10:41.767 --> 00:10:44.167 FLAMES RAGING HIGH UP IN THIS OPEN CAVERN. 00:10:44.267 --> 00:10:46.800 BUT PSALMS 11:6, PSALMS 140, VERSE 10, 00:10:46.900 --> 00:10:49.234 MATTHEW 13:49, MANY SCRIPTURES I COULD GIVE 00:10:49.334 --> 00:10:50.800 YOU ABOUT THE FIRES OF HELL. 00:10:50.900 --> 00:10:53.567 BUT THIS IS WHERE I COULD FIRST SEE PEOPLE. 00:10:53.667 --> 00:10:55.867 YOU CAN ONLY SEE THROUGH THE FLAMES AND ALONG THE EDGES. 00:10:55.967 --> 00:10:58.567 IT'S SO DARK, IT CONSUMES THE LIGHT. 00:10:58.667 --> 00:10:59.567 BUT I COULD SEE THROUGH IT, 00:10:59.667 --> 00:11:03.234 AND I COULD SEE THE SKELETONS OF PEOPLE. 00:11:03.334 --> 00:11:05.433 YOU CANNOT DISTINGUISH A MAN FROM A WOMAN. 00:11:05.533 --> 00:11:08.900 THEY JUST LOOK LIKE FLESH HANGING OFF THEIR BONES. 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:12.867 AND THIS IS WHERE THE SCREAMS WERE SO LOUD FROM 00:11:12.967 --> 00:11:14.967 ALL THESE PROBABLY THOUSANDS, MILLIONS, 00:11:15.067 --> 00:11:16.667 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN THAT PIT. 00:11:16.767 --> 00:11:19.301 BUT SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS. 00:11:19.401 --> 00:11:20.700 YOU KNOW, REMEMBER JESUS MENTIONED 00:11:20.800 --> 00:11:21.667 WEEPING AND GNASHING OF 00:11:21.767 --> 00:11:24.467 TEETH AND THEY'RE BURNING AND SCREAMING, 00:11:24.567 --> 00:11:25.834 AND YOU WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THE SCREAMS, 00:11:25.934 --> 00:11:27.401 BUT YOU CAN'T. 00:11:27.501 --> 00:11:30.100 BUT ISAIAH 57:21 SAYS, THERE IS NO PEACE, 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.034 SAITH MY GOD TO THE WICKED. 00:11:32.134 --> 00:11:34.367 THERE'S NO PEACE OF MIND OF ANY KIND. 00:11:34.467 --> 00:11:37.100 BUT ISAIAH 32:18 SAYS, MY PEOPLE DWELL IN A QUIET 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.467 RESTING PLACE, SO YOU DON'T EVEN GET TO ENJOY 00:11:39.567 --> 00:11:41.567 QUIET IN HELL. 00:11:41.667 --> 00:11:42.267 >> YEAH. 00:11:42.367 --> 00:11:43.267 >> YOU KNOW? 00:11:43.367 --> 00:11:45.233 >> I INTERVIEWED STEVE KANG AND HE SAID THE 00:11:45.333 --> 00:11:49.234 SAME THING ABOUT THE, THE BARS WHERE THE CELLS 00:11:49.334 --> 00:11:50.800 WHERE PEOPLE WERE BEING HELD AND TORTURED. 00:11:50.900 --> 00:11:51.734 >> RIGHT. 00:11:51.834 --> 00:11:52.934 >> AND THEN HE SAID THE SAME THING. 00:11:53.034 --> 00:11:54.734 HE SAID, YOU COULDN'T DISTINGUISH ANY OF THE PEOPLE. 00:11:54.834 --> 00:11:55.734 >> RIGHT. 00:11:55.834 --> 00:11:57.433 >> YOU COULDN'T TELL WHO, WHO THEY WERE. 00:11:57.533 --> 00:12:00.700 DO YOU HAVE A BELIEF ON WHAT YOU THINK DEMONS ARE? 00:12:00.800 --> 00:12:03.800 LIKE ARE THEY THE FALLEN ANGELS OR DO YOU THINK THEY'RE -- 00:12:03.900 --> 00:12:04.467 SORRY, THIS IS RANDOM 00:12:04.567 --> 00:12:06.134 >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 00:12:06.234 --> 00:12:08.467 >> OR ARE THEY THE NEPHILIM? 00:12:08.567 --> 00:12:09.700 LIKE THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT THEORIES ON THAT. 00:12:09.800 --> 00:12:11.000 >> I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:15.433 MOST PEOPLE AND LEADERS, PASTORS AND TEACHERS 00:12:15.533 --> 00:12:17.967 AND SCHOLARS BELIEVE THAT THE FALLEN ANGELS 00:12:18.067 --> 00:12:19.334 ARE THE DEMONS. 00:12:19.434 --> 00:12:22.800 HOWEVER, I KNOW DR. CHUCK MISSLER -- 00:12:22.900 --> 00:12:23.834 >> OH I LOVE HIM. 00:12:23.934 --> 00:12:24.967 >> HE'S MY FAVORITE. 00:12:25.067 --> 00:12:25.400 HE'S MY FAVORITE. 00:12:25.500 --> 00:12:26.501 >> ME TOO. 00:12:26.601 --> 00:12:29.800 >> AND HE INDICATED THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY 00:12:29.900 --> 00:12:33.867 COULD BE THE RESULT OF THE FALLEN ANGELS THAT HAD 00:12:33.967 --> 00:12:35.367 RELATIONS WITH WOMEN AND PRODUCED GIANTS 00:12:35.467 --> 00:12:36.533 ON THE EARTH. 00:12:36.633 --> 00:12:38.900 AND THEN WHEN THE FLOOD CAME AND THEY WERE KILLED, 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.167 THE PEOPLE, THEN THEIR SPIRIT FROM THE FALLEN 00:12:41.267 --> 00:12:44.967 ANGEL LEFT, AND THEN THEY COULD, THAT COULD BE THE DEMONS. 00:12:45.067 --> 00:12:47.134 >> ESPECIALLY THE HEIGHT THAT YOU SAID THAT THEY 00:12:47.234 --> 00:12:50.000 WERE ABOUT THE SIZE OF LIKE WHAT A GIANT WOULD BE. 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:51.601 I MEAN, IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THEY 00:12:51.701 --> 00:12:53.167 HAVE NOWHERE TO GO. 00:12:53.267 --> 00:12:54.267 >> RIGHT. 00:12:54.367 --> 00:12:57.067 >> SO IT'S LIKE THEY GO THERE AND THE HATRED. 00:12:57.167 --> 00:12:59.101 DO YOU THINK, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY YOU THINK 00:12:59.201 --> 00:13:00.267 THEY HATED YOU? 00:13:00.367 --> 00:13:01.967 YOU THINK IT'S BECAUSE YOU WERE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE? 00:13:02.067 --> 00:13:03.133 >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHY. 00:13:03.233 --> 00:13:03.934 THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I 00:13:04.034 --> 00:13:05.133 ASKED THE LORD ON THE WAY BACK. 00:13:05.233 --> 00:13:07.000 I SAID, LORD, WHY DID THEY HATE ME SO MUCH? 00:13:07.100 --> 00:13:08.767 HE SAID, BECAUSE YOU'RE MADE IN MY IMAGE 00:13:08.867 --> 00:13:10.000 AND THEY HATE ME. 00:13:10.100 --> 00:13:12.067 JOHN 15:18 JESUS SAID, THEY HATED ME BEFORE 00:13:12.167 --> 00:13:13.567 THEY HATED YOU. 00:13:13.667 --> 00:13:17.067 SO DEMONS HATE GOD, BUT THEY CAN'T HURT HIM, 00:13:17.167 --> 00:13:18.934 BUT THEY CAN HURT HIS CREATION. 00:13:19.034 --> 00:13:21.400 AND SO THEY HAVE AN EXTREME HATRED BECAUSE 00:13:21.500 --> 00:13:24.967 WE'RE GOD'S HIGHEST CREATED BEING, YOU KNOW, 00:13:25.067 --> 00:13:27.200 AND THEY DON'T LIKE THAT. 00:13:27.300 --> 00:13:28.667 SO THAT'S ONE REASON. 00:13:28.767 --> 00:13:29.800 >> YEAH. 00:13:29.900 --> 00:13:33.167 AND IT'S A WAY OF ALMOST GETTING AT GOD IS TO HURT. 00:13:33.267 --> 00:13:34.367 >> RIGHT. 00:13:34.467 --> 00:13:35.833 >> SO IT'S LIKE, IF ANYONE'S PARTNERING WITH DARKNESS, 00:13:35.933 --> 00:13:38.333 YOU'RE PARTNERING WITH SOMETHING THAT HATES YOU 00:13:38.433 --> 00:13:40.433 AND ULTIMATELY DESIRES YOUR DESTRUCTION. 00:13:40.533 --> 00:13:41.434 >> EXACTLY. 00:13:41.534 --> 00:13:42.001 THAT'S RIGHT. 00:13:42.101 --> 00:13:42.967 >> YEAH. 00:13:43.067 --> 00:13:45.001 >> I KNEW I WAS DOWN DEEP IN THE EARTH. 00:13:45.101 --> 00:13:46.134 I DESCENDED TO GET THERE. 00:13:46.234 --> 00:13:48.567 I ASCENDED WHEN I LEFT, BUT THERE'S 49 SCRIPTURES 00:13:48.667 --> 00:13:51.134 THAT TALK ABOUT WHERE THE CURRENT HELL IS. 00:13:51.234 --> 00:13:52.367 HADES IS THE GREEK WORD. 00:13:52.467 --> 00:13:54.367 SHEOL IS THE HEBREW WORD FOR THE CURRENT HELL. 00:13:54.467 --> 00:13:58.234 BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU TWO, EZEKIEL 26:20 AND NUMBERS 16, 00:13:58.334 --> 00:13:59.633 32 AND 33. 00:13:59.733 --> 00:14:00.434 VERY CLEAR. 00:14:00.534 --> 00:14:01.234 IT'S DOWN DEEP IN THE EARTH. 00:14:01.334 --> 00:14:03.001 BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT. 00:14:03.101 --> 00:14:04.567 I KNEW THAT I WAS DOWN DEEP IN THE EARTH. 00:14:04.667 --> 00:14:06.167 >> SO YOU THINK YOU WERE LIKE, 00:14:06.267 --> 00:14:08.401 ALMOST LIKE IN THE CENTER OF THE EARTH? 00:14:08.501 --> 00:14:09.067 >> PRETTY FAR DOWN. 00:14:09.167 --> 00:14:09.867 >> YEAH. 00:14:09.967 --> 00:14:11.133 >> I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED THAT. 00:14:11.233 --> 00:14:13.233 I'VE ALWAYS FELT LIKE THAT IT COULD BE DOWN THERE. 00:14:13.333 --> 00:14:14.467 >> OH IT IS. 00:14:14.567 --> 00:14:17.067 MOST OF THE COMMENTARIES BELIEVE THAT IT IS ALSO, 00:14:17.167 --> 00:14:18.533 BUT ALSO 49 SCRIPTURES, 00:14:18.633 --> 00:14:19.800 AFTER YOU READ ALL OF THEM, 00:14:19.900 --> 00:14:20.867 YOU'RE PRETTY CONVINCED. 00:14:20.967 --> 00:14:22.034 IT'S CLEAR AS CAN BE. 00:14:22.134 --> 00:14:23.600 IT'S DOWN DEEP IN THE EARTH. 00:14:23.700 --> 00:14:24.834 BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT. 00:14:24.934 --> 00:14:26.601 I ALSO UNDERSTOOD THERE WERE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF 00:14:26.701 --> 00:14:28.467 TORMENT AND DEGREES OF PUNISHMENT. 00:14:28.567 --> 00:14:29.633 >> REALLY? 00:14:29.733 --> 00:14:31.201 DID YOU SEE THE OTHER LEVELS OR WERE YOU ONLY ON ONE? 00:14:31.301 --> 00:14:32.800 >> NO, I JUST KNEW THERE WERE. 00:14:32.900 --> 00:14:33.900 BUT ALSO THE SCRIPTURE, 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.333 MATTHEW 23:14 JESUS SAID, YOU SHALL RECEIVE THE 00:14:36.433 --> 00:14:39.833 GREATER DAMNATION, THAT INFERS A LESSER DAMNATION. 00:14:39.933 --> 00:14:43.033 OR MATTHEW 10:15 HE SAID, IT SHALL BE MORE TOLERABLE 00:14:43.133 --> 00:14:45.134 FOR SODOM AND GOMORRAH IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT THAN 00:14:45.234 --> 00:14:48.233 FOR THAT CITY THAT INFERS A LESS TOLERABLE. 00:14:48.333 --> 00:14:50.367 LUKE 12:47 SAYS, YOU'LL BE BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES, 00:14:50.467 --> 00:14:52.167 OR BEATEN WITH FEW. 00:14:52.267 --> 00:14:55.433 HEBREWS 10:28 OF HOW MUCH WORSE OF A PUNISHMENT 00:14:55.533 --> 00:14:56.534 SUPPOSE IT SHALL BE FOR YOU. 00:14:56.634 --> 00:14:58.467 SO THERE'S A WORSE PUNISHMENT. 00:14:58.567 --> 00:15:00.367 BUT THE POINT IS, THERE IS NO TOLERABLE COMFORTABLE 00:15:00.467 --> 00:15:02.067 LEVEL IN HELL. 00:15:02.167 --> 00:15:03.200 >> NO. 00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:04.867 >> ANY ONE OF THEM IS HORRENDOUS BEYOND ANYTHING 00:15:04.967 --> 00:15:06.134 YOU CAN IMAGINE. 00:15:06.234 --> 00:15:08.301 >> SO DID YOU THINK, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I 00:15:08.401 --> 00:15:10.967 WAS TALKING TO TO STEVE, HE WAS EXPLAINING, 00:15:11.067 --> 00:15:13.300 HE SAID I THINK SHEOL WAS WHERE HE WAS. 00:15:13.400 --> 00:15:15.967 BUT THAT'S NOT ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE THE FINAL 00:15:16.067 --> 00:15:17.167 BECAUSE ISN'T THERE LIKE A LAKE OF FIRE? 00:15:17.267 --> 00:15:19.034 BECAUSE HE SAID, BASICALLY THE DEMONS WERE ABLE TO 00:15:19.134 --> 00:15:20.867 HURT THE PEOPLE, BUT THERE WILL COME A TIME WHERE 00:15:20.967 --> 00:15:23.400 THEY WILL BE SUBJECT TO IT AS WELL. 00:15:23.500 --> 00:15:24.567 >> RIGHT. 00:15:24.667 --> 00:15:26.167 >> BECAUSE DEMONS AND PEOPLE ARE IN THE SAME PLACE. 00:15:26.267 --> 00:15:27.967 REMEMBER MATTHEW 25:41, JESUS SAID, 00:15:28.067 --> 00:15:29.367 DEPART FROM ME, YOU CURSED, 00:15:29.467 --> 00:15:32.167 INTO EVERLASTING FIRE PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL. 00:15:32.267 --> 00:15:35.201 SO PEOPLE GO TO THE SAME PLACE AS THE DEVIL OR 00:15:35.301 --> 00:15:37.067 DEMONS AND SO FORTH. 00:15:37.167 --> 00:15:41.967 BUT AFTER JUDGMENT DAY IN REVELATION 20:11 THROUGH 15, 00:15:42.067 --> 00:15:44.867 IT SAYS THAT DEATH AND HELL AND IT USES THE WORD HADES, 00:15:44.967 --> 00:15:46.867 THE CURRENT HELL ARE DELIVERED UP. 00:15:46.967 --> 00:15:49.833 ALL THE PEOPLE IN THEM ARE DELIVERED UP AND CAST INTO 00:15:49.933 --> 00:15:51.367 THE LAKE OF FIRE. 00:15:51.467 --> 00:15:53.401 SO THE LAKE OF FIRE IS THE FUTURE HELL. 00:15:53.501 --> 00:15:55.700 AND JESUS REFERRED TO IT AS GEHENNA. 00:15:55.800 --> 00:15:57.467 HE USED THAT WORD 11 TIMES. 00:15:57.567 --> 00:15:59.200 JAMES USED IT ONCE. 00:15:59.300 --> 00:16:01.667 SO THE FUTURE HELL IS GEHENNA OR THE LAKE OF FIRE. 00:16:01.767 --> 00:16:03.167 THEY'RE ONE IN THE SAME. 00:16:03.267 --> 00:16:06.234 AND THEN AT THAT TIME, REVELATION 20:10, 00:16:06.334 --> 00:16:08.833 SATAN WILL BE CAST INTO THE SAME LAKE OF FIRE. 00:16:08.933 --> 00:16:12.834 AND SO MOST COMMENTARIES AND I THINK ALSO THAT AT 00:16:12.934 --> 00:16:16.267 THAT TIME SATAN AND HIS DEMONS WILL BE TORMENTED FULLY. 00:16:16.367 --> 00:16:19.234 BUT RIGHT NOW, MATTHEW HENRY'S COMMENTARY POINTS OUT, 00:16:19.334 --> 00:16:21.800 HE BELIEVES THEY ARE ONLY PARTIAL TORMENT NOW, 00:16:21.900 --> 00:16:24.067 THE ONES IN HELL, AND THEY CAN TORMENT YOU, 00:16:24.167 --> 00:16:26.367 BUT THEY'LL BE IN FULL TORMENT THEMSELVES 00:16:26.467 --> 00:16:28.200 AFTER JUDGMENT DAY. 00:16:28.300 --> 00:16:31.901 >> DID YOU SEE ANYTHING AFTER YOU WERE IN THE HUGE 00:16:32.001 --> 00:16:33.200 THING OF FIRE? 00:16:33.300 --> 00:16:34.433 DID YOU SEE ANY OTHER PART? 00:16:34.533 --> 00:16:35.600 >> WELL, NO. 00:16:35.700 --> 00:16:38.634 I SAW ALONG THE BIG PIT THERE WERE INDIVIDUAL PITS 00:16:38.734 --> 00:16:40.100 OF FIRE ALSO. 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:42.200 SO SOME PEOPLE WERE IN THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL PIT 00:16:42.300 --> 00:16:44.467 WHERE FLAMES WOULD RAGE UP AND BURN THEIR FLESH OFF. 00:16:44.567 --> 00:16:45.767 IT WAS HORRIBLE. 00:16:45.867 --> 00:16:48.801 AND SOME WERE IN THE BIG PIT AND OTHERS WERE IN PRISON CELLS. 00:16:48.901 --> 00:16:50.967 LIKE I WAS FIRST IN A PRISON CELL. 00:16:51.067 --> 00:16:52.934 SO THERE'S LOTS OF PRISON CELLS THAT SOME 00:16:53.034 --> 00:16:53.801 PEOPLE ARE IN THERE. 00:16:53.901 --> 00:16:55.601 SO, YOU KNOW, HELL IS A BIG PLACE. 00:16:55.701 --> 00:16:59.767 ISAIAH 30:33 SAYS, HELL IS DEEP AND LARGE. 00:16:59.867 --> 00:17:01.300 SO I ONLY SAW A PIECE OF IT. 00:17:01.400 --> 00:17:03.367 BUT WHAT I SAW, PEOPLE WERE IN THE BIG PIT, 00:17:03.467 --> 00:17:06.134 INDIVIDUAL PITS OR IN PRISON CELLS. 00:17:06.234 --> 00:17:08.300 SO AND ANY ONE OF THEM IS HORRENDOUS, 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:10.634 AND THE HEAT IS WHAT'S SO UNBEARABLE. 00:17:10.734 --> 00:17:13.934 YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR FULL MEMORY, YOU KNOW, 00:17:14.034 --> 00:17:14.934 IN HELL. 00:17:15.034 --> 00:17:17.034 I THOUGHT ABOUT MY WIFE UP ON THE EARTH, 00:17:17.134 --> 00:17:18.533 AND I KNEW I WOULD NEVER GET TO HER AGAIN. 00:17:18.633 --> 00:17:20.500 I COULD NEVER SAY GOODBYE TO HER. 00:17:20.600 --> 00:17:22.801 AND THAT THOUGHT ALONE IS REALLY TORMENTING. 00:17:22.901 --> 00:17:24.300 SEE, WHEN YOU'RE IN HELL, YOU UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:25.234 GOING TO GET OUT. 00:17:25.334 --> 00:17:27.634 JOB 7:9 SAYS HE, THAT GOES DOWN TO SHEOL, 00:17:27.734 --> 00:17:29.567 SHALL COME UP NO MORE. 00:17:29.667 --> 00:17:31.600 YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING OUT, EVER. 00:17:31.700 --> 00:17:33.800 AND TO NOT HAVE ANY FINALITY SAY GOODBYE TO 00:17:33.900 --> 00:17:36.567 YOUR FAMILY IS A REAL TORMENTING THOUGHT. 00:17:36.667 --> 00:17:37.867 >> HOW DID YOU FEEL? 00:17:37.967 --> 00:17:39.267 LIKE WHAT WAS THE OVERWHELMING -- 00:17:39.367 --> 00:17:40.967 YOU SAID TORMENT. 00:17:41.067 --> 00:17:43.200 >> TORMENTED BY ALL THE THINGS YOU'RE ENDURING. 00:17:43.300 --> 00:17:46.467 THE STENCH, THE MOST FOUL, PUTRID, DISGUSTING ODORS. 00:17:46.567 --> 00:17:49.500 MARK 9:25, JESUS REBUKED THE FOUL SPIRITS. 00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:51.234 THEY HAVE A DISGUSTING, FOUL, 00:17:51.334 --> 00:17:54.333 DECAYING ODOR TO THEM, BUT ALSO THE SMELL OF LIKE 00:17:54.433 --> 00:17:57.867 BURNING FLESH AND THE SMELL OF BURNING SULFUR. 00:17:57.967 --> 00:18:00.267 AND IF YOU GO TO HAWAII, TO THE VOLCANO, VOLCANO, 00:18:00.367 --> 00:18:02.367 THEY HAVE SIGNS POSTED WHERE YOU CANNOT GO PAST 00:18:02.467 --> 00:18:05.133 A CERTAIN POINT BECAUSE OF TOXICITY COMING UP FROM 00:18:05.233 --> 00:18:06.033 THE VOLCANO. 00:18:06.133 --> 00:18:07.800 IT'S CALLED SULFUR DIOXIDE. 00:18:07.900 --> 00:18:08.667 IT'S TOXIC. 00:18:08.767 --> 00:18:10.167 IT WILL KILL YOU IF YOU BREATHE IT. 00:18:10.267 --> 00:18:12.900 WELL, SULFUR IS JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR BRIMSTONE. 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:13.900 AND THE WORD BRIMSTONE IS MENTIONED 14 TIMES 00:18:13.967 --> 00:18:14.934 IN THE BIBLE. 00:18:15.034 --> 00:18:16.367 SO YOU'RE BREATHING IN THIS FOUL, PUTRID, 00:18:16.467 --> 00:18:18.333 DISGUSTING AIR THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BREATHE, 00:18:18.433 --> 00:18:20.167 AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH AIR TO BREATHE. 00:18:20.267 --> 00:18:22.400 YOU HAVE TO FIGHT FOR EVEN THE TINIEST BIT 00:18:22.500 --> 00:18:23.867 OF OXYGEN IN HELL. 00:18:23.967 --> 00:18:26.201 BUT ISAIAH 42:5 SAYS, THE LORD GIVES BREATH TO 00:18:26.301 --> 00:18:28.134 THE PEOPLE UPON THE EARTH. 00:18:28.234 --> 00:18:28.967 YOU'RE NOT UPON THE EARTH. 00:18:29.067 --> 00:18:30.467 YOU'RE DOWN DEEP BENEATH THE EARTH. 00:18:30.567 --> 00:18:32.467 GOD'S VERY SPECIFIC WITH HIS WORD. 00:18:32.567 --> 00:18:33.267 >> YEAH. 00:18:33.367 --> 00:18:34.200 >> YOU NEED TO SLEEP IN HELL. 00:18:34.300 --> 00:18:35.634 YOU NEVER GET TO SLEEP. 00:18:35.734 --> 00:18:36.601 YOU KNOW, CAN YOU IMAGINE? 00:18:36.701 --> 00:18:37.901 YOU STAY FOR TWO NIGHTS WITHOUT SLEEPING, 00:18:38.001 --> 00:18:38.834 YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH A WRECK. 00:18:38.934 --> 00:18:40.700 WELL, IN HELL YOU NEED TO SLEEP ALSO, 00:18:40.800 --> 00:18:42.300 BUT YOU NEVER GET TO GO TO SLEEP, 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.333 SO THAT'S A PROGRESSIVELY WORSE FEELING. 00:18:45.433 --> 00:18:48.100 SO YOU'RE EXPERIENCING ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW? 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:50.667 REVELATION 14:10, 11 SAYS, AND THEY SHALL BE 00:18:50.767 --> 00:18:52.601 TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE IN THE PRESENCE 00:18:52.701 --> 00:18:55.300 OF THE LAMB, AND IN THE PRESENCE OF THE HOLY ANGELS. 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:57.300 AND THE SMOKE OF THEIR TORMENT ASCENDS UP FOREVER 00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:58.201 AND EVER. 00:18:58.301 --> 00:19:01.034 AND THEY HAVE NO REST DAY NOR NIGHT, 00:19:01.134 --> 00:19:02.867 SO NO REST OF ANY KIND. 00:19:02.967 --> 00:19:06.267 SO ANY ONE OF THESE THINGS SHOULD KILL YOU. 00:19:06.367 --> 00:19:09.033 BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DEAD ALREADY. 00:19:09.133 --> 00:19:11.334 SO, YOU KNOW, DEATH DOES NOT MEAN CEASE TO EXIST. 00:19:11.434 --> 00:19:13.934 DEATH JUST MEANS SEPARATION FROM GOD, 00:19:14.034 --> 00:19:14.733 YOU STILL EXIST. 00:19:14.833 --> 00:19:16.067 YOU'RE JUST APART FROM GOD, 00:19:16.167 --> 00:19:17.933 AND YOU'RE APART FROM ALL GOOD. 00:19:18.033 --> 00:19:19.567 THERE'S NO GOOD THING IN HELL. 00:19:19.667 --> 00:19:21.467 >> WHAT WAS SOME OF THE CRAZIEST THINGS THAT YOU 00:19:21.567 --> 00:19:23.334 SAW WHEN YOU WERE IN THERE? 00:19:23.434 --> 00:19:25.100 >> WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.534 PEOPLE BEING TORMENTED BY DEMONS. 00:19:28.634 --> 00:19:30.667 I DON'T REALLY SHARE THIS VERY OFTEN BECAUSE IT WAS 00:19:30.767 --> 00:19:34.300 JUST A PRETTY TERRIBLE THING TO REMEMBER. 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:36.534 BUT WHEN I WAS IN THE CELL, 00:19:36.634 --> 00:19:38.167 TWO MORE DEMONS CAME IN. 00:19:38.267 --> 00:19:40.000 SO THERE WERE FOUR DEMONS IN THERE, 00:19:40.100 --> 00:19:41.667 AND THEY EACH GRABBED AN ARM AND A LEG AND WERE 00:19:41.767 --> 00:19:44.134 GOING TO YANK MY ARMS AND LEGS OFF. 00:19:44.234 --> 00:19:47.900 I KNEW THAT, BUT GOD RESCUED ME FROM THAT AND 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:49.034 TOOK ME OUT OF THERE. 00:19:49.134 --> 00:19:51.067 I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOD, BUT HE JUST SNATCHED ME 00:19:51.167 --> 00:19:53.534 OUT OF THERE AND PLACED ME OVER NEXT TO THAT LARGE 00:19:53.634 --> 00:19:55.234 RAGING PIT OF FIRE. 00:19:55.334 --> 00:19:57.234 SO THERE'S SOME PRETTY HORRENDOUS THINGS THAT CAN 00:19:57.334 --> 00:20:01.300 GO ON IN HELL BESIDES THE THINGS I'VE MENTIONED. 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:05.334 >> YEAH, WAS IT ALL JUST DEMONS BESIDES PEOPLE? 00:20:05.434 --> 00:20:07.133 DID THEY ALL KIND OF LOOK THE SAME? 00:20:07.233 --> 00:20:10.000 >> THE DEMONS VARIED IN THE ONES I SAW. 00:20:10.100 --> 00:20:11.967 SOME WERE ONLY TWO AND THREE FEET TALL, 00:20:12.067 --> 00:20:12.933 TWISTED, DEFORMED. 00:20:13.033 --> 00:20:14.834 EVERYTHING WAS GROTESQUE-LOOKING THOUGH, 00:20:14.934 --> 00:20:17.967 AND SOME WERE, LIKE I SAID, 12 OR 13 FEET TALL. 00:20:18.067 --> 00:20:20.667 SOME, ONE WAS REAL STOUT AND THICK. 00:20:20.767 --> 00:20:22.767 ONE WAS REAL THIN AND TALL. 00:20:22.867 --> 00:20:26.701 SO THEY, THEY VARIED IN THEIR LOOK OR APPEARANCE. 00:20:26.801 --> 00:20:29.934 BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY ALL LOOK HORRIFIC. 00:20:30.034 --> 00:20:31.500 >> DID YOU SEE, LIKE ANY KIND OF BEASTS OR ANYTHING 00:20:31.600 --> 00:20:33.667 LIKE THAT, ANY KIND OF CREATURES? 00:20:33.767 --> 00:20:35.434 >> NO, NO, I SAW -- 00:20:35.534 --> 00:20:40.034 I DID SEE MAGGOTS AND I SAW SNAKES. 00:20:40.134 --> 00:20:43.067 AND I SAW THIS IS STRANGE, BUT I SAW AND I CAN'T BACK 00:20:43.167 --> 00:20:44.100 THIS ONE UP WITH SCRIPTURE. 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:45.234 I CAN THE OTHERS. 00:20:45.334 --> 00:20:47.367 BUT THIS ONE I SAW SPIDERS THAT WERE LIKE THREE AND 00:20:47.467 --> 00:20:49.333 FOUR FEET ACROSS. 00:20:49.433 --> 00:20:50.200 >> OH, GOD. 00:20:50.300 --> 00:20:51.401 >> LIKE HUGE SPIDERS. 00:20:51.501 --> 00:20:52.700 BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY SCRIPTURE FOR THAT, 00:20:52.800 --> 00:20:54.934 SO I USUALLY DON'T MENTION IT. 00:20:55.034 --> 00:20:55.834 BUT THAT'S WHAT I SAW. 00:20:55.934 --> 00:20:56.500 >> THAT RESONATES WITH ME 00:20:56.600 --> 00:20:56.934 BECAUSE I HATE SPIDERS. 00:20:57.034 --> 00:20:57.867 >> YEAH. 00:20:57.967 --> 00:20:59.234 >> I FEEL LIKE IF THEY'D BE ANYWHERE, 00:20:59.334 --> 00:21:00.267 THEY'D BE THERE. 00:21:00.367 --> 00:21:02.200 >> BUT MAGGOTS, YOU KNOW, ISAIAH 14:11 SAYS, 00:21:02.300 --> 00:21:04.167 WHERE THE MAGGOT IS SPREAD UNDER THEE AND THE WORM 00:21:04.267 --> 00:21:05.433 WILL COVER THEE. 00:21:05.533 --> 00:21:07.634 IT'S THE WORD MAGGOT IF YOU LOOK IT UP IN THE ORIGINAL. 00:21:07.734 --> 00:21:09.767 AND JESUS SAID, WHERE THEIR WORM DIES NOT. 00:21:09.867 --> 00:21:11.501 HE ALSO USED THE WORD MAGGOT. 00:21:11.601 --> 00:21:14.533 SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL ASSIGNED MAGGOTS 00:21:14.633 --> 00:21:17.600 EATING ON THEIR FLESH AND SNAKES. 00:21:17.700 --> 00:21:20.834 I DID SEE SNAKES AND THE REPTILISH, YOU KNOW, 00:21:20.934 --> 00:21:23.867 REVELATION 16 DESCRIBES DEMONS THAT ARE RELEASED 00:21:23.967 --> 00:21:25.700 FROM THE PIT DURING THE TRIBULATION. 00:21:25.800 --> 00:21:28.834 AND IT SAYS THEY THEIR APPEARANCE WAS LIKE FROGS. 00:21:28.934 --> 00:21:31.267 A FROG IS REPTILISH IN APPEARANCE. 00:21:31.367 --> 00:21:34.234 AND THEN ALSO REVELATION 9 DESCRIBES A DEMON 00:21:34.334 --> 00:21:35.900 THAT CAME OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT. 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.601 AND JOHN TRIES TO DESCRIBE IT. 00:21:37.701 --> 00:21:38.900 A BIZARRE-LOOKING CREATURE, 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:40.700 IF YOU READ THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, 00:21:40.800 --> 00:21:43.467 HAD TEETH LIKE A LION AND BREASTPLATES OF IRON AND 00:21:43.567 --> 00:21:46.701 HAIR LIKE A WOMAN AND A FACE LIKE A LION AND SO FORTH. 00:21:46.801 --> 00:21:48.967 SO A PRETTY BIZARRE-LOOKING CREATURE THAT HE'S 00:21:49.067 --> 00:21:50.100 TRYING TO DESCRIBE. 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:52.634 SO THERE'S SOME UNUSUAL-LOOKING DEMONS IN HELL. 00:21:52.734 --> 00:21:53.500 >> YEAH. 00:21:53.600 --> 00:21:55.067 AND IT TALKS ABOUT DRAGONS, TOO. 00:21:55.167 --> 00:21:56.100 BUT YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:57.900 >> I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:00.833 BUT SNAKES, MAGGOTS AND SPIDERS. 00:22:00.933 --> 00:22:02.000 SO... 00:22:02.100 --> 00:22:03.767 >> SO HOW LONG WERE YOU DOWN THERE FOR AND HOW DID 00:22:03.867 --> 00:22:04.800 YOU GET BACK? 00:22:04.900 --> 00:22:06.967 THANK GOD YOU GOT BACK UP HERE. 00:22:07.067 --> 00:22:09.000 >> WELL, THE WHOLE THING WAS 23 MINUTES. 00:22:09.100 --> 00:22:10.634 IT FELT LIKE 23 WEEKS, LITERALLY. 00:22:10.734 --> 00:22:11.601 >> REALLY? 00:22:11.701 --> 00:22:14.001 >> I MEAN, EVERY SECOND SEEMS SO LONG. 00:22:14.101 --> 00:22:15.101 >> BECAUSE IT WAS SO INTENSE. 00:22:15.201 --> 00:22:17.634 >> YEAH, BUT JUST IMAGINE PUTTING YOUR FINGER ON A 00:22:17.734 --> 00:22:19.901 STOVE AND BURNING YOUR FINGER. 00:22:20.001 --> 00:22:21.467 JUST TWO SECONDS WOULD BE LONG. 00:22:21.567 --> 00:22:22.167 >> SO PAINFUL. 00:22:22.267 --> 00:22:23.300 YEAH AND PAIN. 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:25.734 WHEN YOU'RE IN PAIN, TIME FEELS AND TIME PROBABLY 00:22:25.834 --> 00:22:27.934 FELT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THERE ANYWAY. 00:22:28.034 --> 00:22:29.900 >> I DID UNDERSTAND ETERNITY THOUGH. 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:34.467 SEE, HERE WE DON'T QUITE GRASP LIKE FOREVER, YOU KNOW... 00:22:34.567 --> 00:22:35.233 >> WE REALLY DON'T. 00:22:35.333 --> 00:22:36.300 >> YOU KNOW, 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:37.900 SO THAT WAS THE THING THE LORD WANTED ME TO 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:39.900 EXPERIENCE WAS THE HOPELESSNESS. 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.101 SEE, I UNDERSTOOD I'LL NEVER GET OUT. 00:22:42.201 --> 00:22:45.667 AND HERE WE CAN'T QUITE GRASP ETERNITY. 00:22:45.767 --> 00:22:48.267 WE ALWAYS THINK OF TIME HAVING AN END. 00:22:48.367 --> 00:22:49.634 BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THERE, 00:22:49.734 --> 00:22:52.267 THERE IS NO END AND YOU'LL NEVER GET OUT. 00:22:52.367 --> 00:22:55.600 THAT'S THE PART THAT THE LORD WANTED ME TO KNOW. 00:22:55.700 --> 00:22:57.033 BECAUSE HE BLOCKED IT FROM MY MIND THAT 00:22:57.133 --> 00:22:57.967 I WAS A CHRISTIAN. 00:22:58.067 --> 00:22:59.333 HE HID THAT FACT FROM ME. 00:22:59.433 --> 00:23:01.367 >> OH, SO HE WAS LETTING YOU HAVE AN EXPERIENCE OF 00:23:01.467 --> 00:23:02.967 SOMEONE WHO WOULD GO TO HELL. 00:23:03.067 --> 00:23:03.933 >> RIGHT. 00:23:04.033 --> 00:23:05.401 >> YOU WEREN'T LIKE CRYING OUT TO GOD. 00:23:05.501 --> 00:23:08.901 >> NO, I WASN'T, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ISAIAH 38:18 SAYS, 00:23:09.001 --> 00:23:11.434 THOSE WHO GO DOWN TO THE PIT CANNOT HOPE 00:23:11.534 --> 00:23:12.567 FOR THY TRUTH. 00:23:12.667 --> 00:23:14.401 SEE, IF I WAS THERE AS A CHRISTIAN, WHICH I WAS, 00:23:14.501 --> 00:23:16.233 BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE I WOULD HAVE KNOWN. 00:23:16.333 --> 00:23:17.734 PRAISE GOD, HE'S GETTING ME OUT OF HERE. 00:23:17.834 --> 00:23:18.467 >> YEAH. 00:23:18.567 --> 00:23:19.367 >> I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT. 00:23:19.467 --> 00:23:20.333 >> YOU HAD TO FEEL THE HOPELESSNESS. 00:23:20.433 --> 00:23:21.434 >> HE WANTED ME TO FEEL THE HOPELESSNESS 00:23:21.534 --> 00:23:22.467 THAT THEY FEEL. 00:23:22.567 --> 00:23:25.200 AND THAT'S THE WORST PART, BECAUSE YOU GRASP, 00:23:25.300 --> 00:23:27.067 I'LL NEVER GET OUT OF HERE. 00:23:27.167 --> 00:23:28.833 THERE'S NO CAVALRY COMING OVER THE HILL. 00:23:28.933 --> 00:23:30.067 NO ONE'S GOING TO COME RESCUE ME. 00:23:30.167 --> 00:23:31.234 I CAN'T PRAY TO GOD. 00:23:31.334 --> 00:23:33.467 THERE'S NO ANGELS, NO FRIEND. 00:23:33.567 --> 00:23:35.567 YOU'RE JUST LOST FOREVER. 00:23:35.667 --> 00:23:37.100 AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE. 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.634 YOU KNOW, ONE SECOND AFTER THEY DIE, IT'S TOO LATE. 00:23:40.734 --> 00:23:44.033 THEY WOULD REGRET PUTTING OFF NOT RECEIVING JESUS 00:23:44.133 --> 00:23:46.267 AND REPENTING OF THEIR SINS, YOU KNOW? 00:23:46.367 --> 00:23:49.267 SO THAT'S THE PART HE WANTED ME TO REALLY REMEMBER. 00:23:49.367 --> 00:23:50.900 THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS. 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:52.633 >> DID YOU FEEL FEAR? 00:23:52.733 --> 00:23:54.800 >> OH, THE FEAR WAS UNIMAGINABLE. 00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:56.434 BUT I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT FEAR. 00:23:56.534 --> 00:23:58.300 I USED TO SURF WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER, 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:00.867 AND I WAS 17 YEARS OLD SURFING OFF COCOA BEACH, 00:24:00.967 --> 00:24:02.667 FLORIDA, AND I GOT ATTACKED BY 00:24:02.767 --> 00:24:04.134 A TEN-FOOT TIGER SHARK. 00:24:04.234 --> 00:24:05.167 >> OH MY GOSH. 00:24:05.267 --> 00:24:07.067 >> I SAW HIM GO BY MY BOARD, TIGER SHARK. 00:24:07.167 --> 00:24:08.833 I SAW, I KNOW TIGER SHARKS. 00:24:08.933 --> 00:24:11.233 AND HE CAME BACK AND HE BIT MY BOARD IN HALF, 00:24:11.333 --> 00:24:14.300 GRABBED MY LEG AND PULLED ME DOWN UNDER THE WATER. 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:15.567 NOW YOU CAN IMAGINE THE FEAR THAT I FELT 00:24:15.667 --> 00:24:16.367 AT THAT MOMENT. 00:24:16.467 --> 00:24:16.800 >> YEAH. 00:24:16.900 --> 00:24:17.834 >> RIGHT? 00:24:17.934 --> 00:24:18.600 I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH IT, 00:24:18.700 --> 00:24:20.567 YOU CAN AT LEAST IMAGINE IT. 00:24:20.667 --> 00:24:23.567 WELL, THAT FEAR THAT I FELT AT THAT MOMENT, 00:24:23.667 --> 00:24:27.467 PALED IN COMPARISON TO WHAT YOU FEEL IN HELL. 00:24:27.567 --> 00:24:28.967 IT WOULDN'T EVEN REGISTER IN HELL. 00:24:29.067 --> 00:24:31.334 BUT SEE, PSALM 73:18 AND 19 SAYS, 00:24:31.434 --> 00:24:33.500 YOU CAST THEM DOWN INTO DESTRUCTION, 00:24:33.600 --> 00:24:37.167 WHERE THEY ARE UTTERLY CONSUMED WITH TERROR. 00:24:37.267 --> 00:24:39.000 YOU'RE CONSUMED WITH THIS TERROR FOR ALL ETERNITY. 00:24:39.100 --> 00:24:40.834 THE FEAR DOESN'T LET UP. 00:24:40.934 --> 00:24:41.967 SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU 00:24:42.067 --> 00:24:43.734 HAVE TO ENDURE FOREVER. 00:24:43.834 --> 00:24:45.700 >> YOU SAID ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE WANTED YOU 00:24:45.800 --> 00:24:47.333 TO TAKE NOTE OF WAS THE HOPELESSNESS. 00:24:47.433 --> 00:24:49.333 WHAT WERE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT STOOD 00:24:49.433 --> 00:24:51.267 OUT TO YOU THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE LORD WANTED YOU 00:24:51.367 --> 00:24:52.433 TO KNOW ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE? 00:24:52.533 --> 00:24:54.667 >> WELL, THE MAIN THING THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME, 00:24:54.767 --> 00:24:56.301 AND THIS IS THE PART OF GETTING OUT OF HELL. 00:24:56.401 --> 00:24:56.667 >> YEAH. 00:24:56.767 --> 00:24:57.733 >> OKAY. 00:24:57.833 --> 00:25:00.433 WHEN WE GET, OKAY, THERE WAS EIGHT THOUGHTS I HAD 00:25:00.533 --> 00:25:01.967 AND I'LL JUST SHARE WITH A FEW, 00:25:02.067 --> 00:25:05.467 BUT LET ME GET TO THE ONE I WAS YOU ASKED ABOUT. 00:25:05.567 --> 00:25:08.967 GOD ALLOWED ME TO FEEL A PIECE OF HIS HEART, 00:25:09.067 --> 00:25:12.201 THE ANGUISH HE FEELS FOR SOUL FALLING INTO HELL. 00:25:12.301 --> 00:25:15.100 AND I COULDN'T STAND TO FEEL EVEN A PIECE OF THE 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:16.600 ANGUISH HE FEELS. 00:25:16.700 --> 00:25:18.367 HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE GOING TO HELL. 00:25:18.467 --> 00:25:19.834 WE CAME UP OUT OF THIS TUNNEL AND PEOPLE WERE 00:25:19.934 --> 00:25:21.701 FALLING ONE AFTER ANOTHER, AFTER ANOTHER, 00:25:21.801 --> 00:25:23.800 BACK DOWN INTO HELL. 00:25:23.900 --> 00:25:25.134 AND I COULDN'T STAND IT. 00:25:25.234 --> 00:25:26.134 I SAID, LORD, STOP. 00:25:26.234 --> 00:25:27.467 I DON'T WANT TO FEEL WHAT YOU'RE FEELING. 00:25:27.567 --> 00:25:31.900 SEE, EPHESIANS 3:19 SAYS, HIS LOVE PASSES KNOWLEDGE. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.767 HIS LOVE FOR US IS FAR BEYOND WHAT WE CAN EVEN 00:25:34.867 --> 00:25:37.367 LOVE OUR OWN WIVES OR CHILDREN. 00:25:37.467 --> 00:25:38.401 THAT'S HOW MUCH HE LOVES US. 00:25:38.501 --> 00:25:39.833 HE DOESN'T WANT US TO GO THERE. 00:25:39.933 --> 00:25:41.834 AND THAT IS THE THING THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME OF 00:25:41.934 --> 00:25:44.267 HOW MUCH HE LOVES US. 00:25:44.367 --> 00:25:46.267 AND HE OPENED UP A SCRIPTURE TO ME, IF I CAN 00:25:46.367 --> 00:25:46.934 SHARE IT WITH YOU. 00:25:47.034 --> 00:25:47.800 >> YEAH. 00:25:47.900 --> 00:25:50.501 >> PSALMS 139:17 AND 18 DAVID SAID, 00:25:50.601 --> 00:25:53.267 YOUR THOUGHTS TOWARD ME ARE ALL PRECIOUS, 00:25:53.367 --> 00:25:55.001 AND I SUPPOSE IF I SHOULD COUNT THEM, 00:25:55.101 --> 00:25:57.767 THEY ARE MORE THAN THE SANDS. 00:25:57.867 --> 00:26:00.634 NOW IF YOU PICKED UP A HANDFUL OF SAND, 00:26:00.734 --> 00:26:03.434 THERE'D BE THOUSANDS OF GRANULES IN YOUR HAND, RIGHT? 00:26:03.534 --> 00:26:05.434 IF EACH ONE REPRESENTED A THOUGHT. 00:26:05.534 --> 00:26:08.267 AND YOU SAW ME, I TOOK ONE GRANULE AND I SAID, 00:26:08.367 --> 00:26:10.867 I LOVE HOW MY WIFE PRAYS FOR ME ALL THE TIME. 00:26:10.967 --> 00:26:13.034 I LOVE HOW SHE HONORS HER PARENTS. 00:26:13.134 --> 00:26:14.801 I LOVE HOW BEAUTIFUL SHE IS. 00:26:14.901 --> 00:26:16.534 YOU CAME BACK 3 OR 4 HOURS FROM NOW, 00:26:16.634 --> 00:26:18.367 AND I'M TRYING TO EXHAUST JUST THE AMOUNT IN MY HAND. 00:26:18.467 --> 00:26:20.500 YOU WOULD SAY BILL IS REALLY GONE OVER HIS WIFE, 00:26:20.600 --> 00:26:21.633 RIGHT? 00:26:21.733 --> 00:26:23.300 THAT'S JUST TO EXHAUST THE AMOUNT IN MY HAND. 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:25.234 BUT GOD SAID HIS THOUGHTS TOWARD US ARE ALL 00:26:25.334 --> 00:26:28.767 PRECIOUS, MORE THAN THE SANDS ON THE WHOLE EARTH. 00:26:28.867 --> 00:26:30.400 BECAUSE ANOTHER PLACE IT SAYS THE WHOLE EARTH. 00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:32.601 HOW MANY GRANULES ARE ON THE WHOLE EARTH? 00:26:32.701 --> 00:26:33.801 IT'S NOT EVEN COUNTABLE. 00:26:33.901 --> 00:26:34.734 >> YEAH. 00:26:34.834 --> 00:26:35.667 >> SO AND THAT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION 00:26:35.767 --> 00:26:37.000 BECAUSE GOD CAN'T EXAGGERATE. 00:26:37.100 --> 00:26:38.200 >> NO. 00:26:38.300 --> 00:26:40.567 >> SO IF EVERY ONE OF THOSE GRANULES REPRESENT A GOOD 00:26:40.667 --> 00:26:43.033 THOUGHT HE HAS TOWARDS US, THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE 00:26:43.133 --> 00:26:46.600 MORE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH HE LOVES PEOPLE AND 00:26:46.700 --> 00:26:48.334 DOESN'T WANT HIM TO GO THERE. 00:26:48.434 --> 00:26:52.200 THAT'S WHY HE ALLOWED ME TO FEEL THE ANGUISH HE FEELS. 00:26:52.300 --> 00:26:53.834 JUST A PIECE OF THE ANGUISH. 00:26:53.934 --> 00:26:55.134 I COULDN'T BEAR IT. 00:26:55.234 --> 00:26:58.200 >> I -- THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO SHARE BECAUSE I THINK 00:26:58.300 --> 00:27:02.300 PEOPLE, GOD, IT SHOWS HE'S NOT EMOTIONALLY REMOVED 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.167 FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING SENT THERE, 00:27:04.267 --> 00:27:05.967 BUT THAT IT ACTUALLY ANGUISHES HIM. 00:27:06.067 --> 00:27:07.401 >> OH, HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE IT. 00:27:07.501 --> 00:27:11.867 ISAIAH 33:11 I THINK SAYS HE HAS NO PLEASURE IN THE 00:27:11.967 --> 00:27:13.233 DEATH OF THE WICKED. 00:27:13.333 --> 00:27:14.200 >> WOW. 00:27:14.300 --> 00:27:15.201 >> HE DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY TO GO THERE. 00:27:15.301 --> 00:27:17.533 HE DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH TO KEEP US OUT. 00:27:17.633 --> 00:27:19.334 SO HE PROVED HIS LOVE FOR US. 00:27:19.434 --> 00:27:20.500 >> YEAH. 00:27:20.600 --> 00:27:21.767 >> YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, HOW CAN THIS LOVING GOD SEND 00:27:21.867 --> 00:27:22.534 PEOPLE TO HELL? 00:27:22.634 --> 00:27:23.967 HE DOESN'T SEND ANYBODY. 00:27:24.067 --> 00:27:26.967 AND HE'S THE ONE THAT DIED FOR YOU TO KEEP YOU OUT. 00:27:27.067 --> 00:27:28.601 BUT BECAUSE HE LOVES MAN, HE GIVES HIM THAT FREE 00:27:28.701 --> 00:27:30.101 WILL TO CHOOSE. 00:27:30.201 --> 00:27:31.334 IT'S UP TO THEM. 00:27:31.434 --> 00:27:33.167 HE SAYS, HERE'S HOW YOU STAY OUT OF HELL. 00:27:33.267 --> 00:27:34.033 YOU KNOW, REVELATION 21:8 00:27:34.133 --> 00:27:35.900 SAYS, ALL UNBELIEVERS SHALL HAVE 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:37.234 THEIR PART IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. 00:27:37.334 --> 00:27:38.267 SO THERE'S A WARNING. 00:27:38.367 --> 00:27:39.534 HE JUST TOLD YOU, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, 00:27:39.634 --> 00:27:41.567 THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY, YOU'LL END UP 00:27:41.667 --> 00:27:42.967 IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. 00:27:43.067 --> 00:27:44.001 THAT'S A MESSAGE OF LOVE 00:27:44.101 --> 00:27:46.134 BECAUSE IT'S A MESSAGE OF WARNING. 00:27:46.234 --> 00:27:48.533 NOW YOU CAN SEE WHY JESUS SAID IN MATTHEW 12:37, 00:27:48.633 --> 00:27:51.400 YOUR OWN WORDS CONDEMN YOU BECAUSE YOU SAID, 00:27:51.500 --> 00:27:53.867 I DON'T BELIEVE JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY. 00:27:53.967 --> 00:27:55.200 PEOPLE SAY THAT. 00:27:55.300 --> 00:27:56.367 HE GIVES THEM A CHOICE. 00:27:56.467 --> 00:27:58.500 HE TELLS YOU, DON'T SAY THAT, YOU END UP IN HELL. 00:27:58.600 --> 00:28:00.534 BUT HE LOVES THEM, SO HE GIVES THEM THE FREE WILL. 00:28:00.634 --> 00:28:01.700 >> AND HE HONORS THAT. 00:28:01.800 --> 00:28:02.434 >> RIGHT. 00:28:02.534 --> 00:28:03.700 >> HE'S NOT A TYRANT. 00:28:03.800 --> 00:28:06.834 >> HE'S NOT GOING TO FORCE YOU INTO HEAVEN. 00:28:06.934 --> 00:28:08.401 >> SO HOW'D YOU GET OUT? 00:28:08.501 --> 00:28:09.234 WHAT WAS THAT -- 00:28:09.334 --> 00:28:10.334 WHAT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE LIKE? 00:28:10.434 --> 00:28:11.634 >> WELL, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT ALL THIS HORROR 00:28:11.734 --> 00:28:14.700 AND SOMETHING BEGAN LIFTING ME UP, 00:28:14.800 --> 00:28:15.700 THIS DARK TUNNEL. 00:28:15.800 --> 00:28:17.934 I WAS IN THIS CAVERN-LIKE TUNNEL 00:28:18.034 --> 00:28:20.201 WITH DEMONS ALL ALONG THE WALLS. 00:28:20.301 --> 00:28:22.367 AND IT WAS SO DARK. 00:28:22.467 --> 00:28:24.700 BUT THEN AS I WENT UP INTO THIS DARK TUNNEL, 00:28:24.800 --> 00:28:27.334 SUDDENLY THIS BRIGHT LIGHT APPEARED. 00:28:27.434 --> 00:28:28.501 NOW I DIDN'T SEE HIS FACE. 00:28:28.601 --> 00:28:32.034 I JUST SAW THE OUTLINE OF A MAN STANDING IN THIS 00:28:32.134 --> 00:28:34.100 BRIGHT, PURE, HOLY LIGHT. 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.467 IT WAS LIKE NO LIGHT I HAD EVER SEEN BEFORE, 00:28:36.567 --> 00:28:39.967 AND I KNEW IMMEDIATELY WHO IT WAS. 00:28:40.067 --> 00:28:40.934 I JUST CALLED OUT HIS NAME. 00:28:41.034 --> 00:28:44.267 I SAID JESUS, AND HE SAID TWO WORDS. 00:28:44.367 --> 00:28:46.067 HE SAID, I AM. 00:28:46.167 --> 00:28:48.267 WHEN HE SAID THAT I WENT OUT, 00:28:48.367 --> 00:28:50.400 I DON'T KNOW IF I DIED OR PASSED OUT, 00:28:50.500 --> 00:28:53.401 BUT I CAN ONLY EXPLAIN THAT THROUGH REVELATION 1:16. 00:28:53.501 --> 00:28:56.100 WHEN JOHN SAW HIM, HE SAID HIS COUNTENANCE WAS BRIGHT 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.634 AS A SUN, AND I FELL AT HIS FEET AS ONE DEAD. 00:28:59.734 --> 00:29:01.367 WELL, AFTER TIME HE TOUCHED ME, 00:29:01.467 --> 00:29:03.400 AND WHEN I CAME TO AT HIS FEET, 00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:04.500 IT HIT ME SO STRONGLY. 00:29:04.600 --> 00:29:07.234 EVEN THOUGH I'D BEEN A CHRISTIAN FOR 28 YEARS, 00:29:07.334 --> 00:29:10.301 I THOUGHT IF YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GONE TO THE CROSS, 00:29:10.401 --> 00:29:11.634 I WOULD HAVE GONE TO HELL. 00:29:11.734 --> 00:29:13.533 I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY IF HE 00:29:13.633 --> 00:29:15.600 WOULDN'T HAVE DIED ON THE CROSS. 00:29:15.700 --> 00:29:17.667 I WAS SO GRATEFUL FOR THE CROSS, 00:29:17.767 --> 00:29:19.800 FOR WHAT HE DID FOR ME. 00:29:19.900 --> 00:29:22.267 I WAS SO THANKFUL AND I DIDN'T WANT TO ASK HIM 00:29:22.367 --> 00:29:23.300 ANY QUESTIONS. 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.067 I JUST WANTED TO THANK HIM AND WORSHIP HIM. 00:29:25.167 --> 00:29:28.067 BUT AFTER A TIME, HE STARTED ANSWERING MY THOUGHTS. 00:29:28.167 --> 00:29:29.567 I STARTED GETTING THOUGHTS. 00:29:29.667 --> 00:29:33.334 AND PSALMS 139:2 SAYS HE ANSWERS OUR THOUGHTS AFAR OFF. 00:29:33.434 --> 00:29:34.967 AND I THOUGHT, LORD, WHY DID YOU SEND ME TO 00:29:35.067 --> 00:29:35.867 THIS HORRIBLE PLACE? 00:29:35.967 --> 00:29:37.000 >> YEAH. 00:29:37.100 --> 00:29:38.734 >> HE SAID, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE HELL 00:29:38.834 --> 00:29:39.601 IS REAL. 00:29:39.701 --> 00:29:40.534 >> THAT'S TRUE. 00:29:40.634 --> 00:29:42.033 >> HE SAID, EVEN SOME OF MY OWN PEOPLE 00:29:42.133 --> 00:29:44.501 DO NOT BELIEVE HELL EXISTS. 00:29:44.601 --> 00:29:45.434 THAT STATEMENT SURPRISED ME. 00:29:45.534 --> 00:29:46.301 I THOUGHT, WAIT A MINUTE, DON'T, 00:29:46.401 --> 00:29:47.700 DON'T ALL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN HELL? 00:29:47.800 --> 00:29:48.767 BUT WE HAVE FOUND OUT SINCE, 00:29:48.867 --> 00:29:51.033 MANY CHRISTIANS BELIEVE IN ANNIHILATIONISM, 00:29:51.133 --> 00:29:53.067 WHICH IS A TEACHING THAT SAYS YOU SIMPLY CEASE TO 00:29:53.167 --> 00:29:55.634 EXIST IF YOU DENY JESUS. 00:29:55.734 --> 00:29:56.934 THAT'S NOT TRUE. 00:29:57.034 --> 00:29:58.234 OR UNIVERSALISM, 00:29:58.334 --> 00:29:59.834 THAT'S A TEACHING THAT SAYS YOU, 00:29:59.934 --> 00:30:01.901 EVERYBODY GOES TO HEAVEN. 00:30:02.001 --> 00:30:02.867 YOU MIGHT GO TO HELL FOR A LITTLE WHILE, 00:30:02.967 --> 00:30:04.301 BUT YOU GET LET OUT AND YOU GO TO HEAVEN 00:30:04.401 --> 00:30:05.200 OR SOUL SLEEP. 00:30:05.300 --> 00:30:06.833 THERE'S MANY FALSE TEACHINGS, 00:30:06.933 --> 00:30:08.467 AND HE WANTED ME TO SHARE POINT PEOPLE 00:30:08.533 --> 00:30:09.567 TO THE SCRIPTURES. 00:30:09.667 --> 00:30:11.433 I'M JUST A SIGNPOST TO POINT PEOPLE 00:30:11.533 --> 00:30:12.967 TO THE SCRIPTURE. 00:30:13.067 --> 00:30:14.600 >> WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO JESUS, 00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:16.100 DID YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WERE? 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.001 DID YOU LIKE, DID YOU GO BACK INTO YOUR BODY AND HE 00:30:18.101 --> 00:30:18.867 WAS WITH YOU? 00:30:18.967 --> 00:30:20.033 OR WERE YOU SOMEWHERE WITH HIM? 00:30:20.133 --> 00:30:21.900 >> WELL, WE WERE TRAVELING BACK UP THAT DARK TUNNEL. 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:22.501 >> YES. 00:30:22.601 --> 00:30:23.167 AND HE WAS WITH YOU. 00:30:23.267 --> 00:30:24.267 >> RIGHT. 00:30:24.367 --> 00:30:25.334 AND THEN THOSE THOUGHTS WERE COMING AND HE WAS 00:30:25.434 --> 00:30:26.567 ANSWERING MY THOUGHTS. 00:30:26.667 --> 00:30:27.967 I THOUGHT, LORD, I DON'T WANT TO SHARE 00:30:28.067 --> 00:30:29.733 THIS WITH ANYBODY. 00:30:29.833 --> 00:30:32.667 THEY'RE GOING TO THINK I'M CRAZY OR HAD A BAD DREAM. 00:30:32.767 --> 00:30:35.834 AND HE SAID, IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO CONVICT THEIR HEARTS. 00:30:35.934 --> 00:30:37.367 THAT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT'S. 00:30:37.467 --> 00:30:39.200 YOU JUST GO AND TELL THEM. 00:30:39.300 --> 00:30:41.167 GO AND TELL THEM. 00:30:41.267 --> 00:30:44.334 SO AGAIN, HE WANTED ME TO POINT PEOPLE TO THE SCRIPTURE. 00:30:44.434 --> 00:30:45.601 IT'S NOT IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE 00:30:45.701 --> 00:30:46.933 TO BELIEVE MY EXPERIENCE. 00:30:47.033 --> 00:30:49.167 I DON'T CARE HONESTLY IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE ME, 00:30:49.267 --> 00:30:51.333 BUT JUST BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD. 00:30:51.433 --> 00:30:53.234 THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE A LOT OF CHURCHES 00:30:53.334 --> 00:30:55.934 AREN'T TEACHING THE TRUTH ABOUT HELL TODAY. 00:30:56.034 --> 00:30:57.633 LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE TEACHING ANNIHILATIONISM, 00:30:57.733 --> 00:30:59.734 UNIVERSALISM, MANY FALSE TEACHINGS. 00:30:59.834 --> 00:31:02.467 SO IT TAKES OUT THE FEAR OF THE LORD A LOT. 00:31:02.567 --> 00:31:04.367 WHEN YOU THINK, WELL, THERE'S NO HELL, 00:31:04.467 --> 00:31:06.634 THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES, YOU KNOW? 00:31:06.734 --> 00:31:08.634 SO IT GIVES YOU THAT URGENCY TO WITNESS MORE OF 00:31:08.734 --> 00:31:10.834 A PASSION TO SHARE. 00:31:10.934 --> 00:31:12.200 SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT HE WANTED ME 00:31:12.300 --> 00:31:13.300 TO SHARE THE WORD. 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.667 AND I SAID, YES, SIR, I'LL GO, I'LL SHARE IT. 00:31:15.767 --> 00:31:17.801 BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT, I DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE IT. 00:31:17.901 --> 00:31:20.534 I TOLD MY BEST FRIEND AND HE INVITED ME 00:31:20.634 --> 00:31:21.634 TO HIS BIBLE STUDY. 00:31:21.734 --> 00:31:23.800 I WENT RELUCTANTLY, THREE MONTHS LATER. 00:31:23.900 --> 00:31:24.901 IT SPREAD FROM THERE. 00:31:25.001 --> 00:31:26.433 SO FOR THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS, WE STARTED GETTING 00:31:26.533 --> 00:31:28.001 INVITED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 00:31:28.101 --> 00:31:28.934 WE PAID OUR OWN WAY. 00:31:29.034 --> 00:31:31.100 WE NEVER TOOK ONE DIME FROM ANYBODY. 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.334 AND THEN THE PUBLISHER CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME TO 00:31:33.434 --> 00:31:35.134 WRITE THE BOOK, SO IT WAS NOT SOMETHING I 00:31:35.234 --> 00:31:36.567 WANTED TO SELF-PROMOTE. 00:31:36.667 --> 00:31:37.667 >> YEAH. 00:31:37.767 --> 00:31:38.834 >> BUT I WAS HAPPY TO WRITE THE BOOK SO I COULD 00:31:38.934 --> 00:31:40.267 PUT THE SCRIPTURES IN THERE 00:31:40.367 --> 00:31:41.133 OUGHT TO DO WITH HELL, YOU KNOW. 00:31:41.233 --> 00:31:43.633 SO THAT WAS WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME. 00:31:43.733 --> 00:31:45.334 BUT I FELT UNCOMFORTABLE SHARING BECAUSE I'M A 00:31:45.434 --> 00:31:47.167 CONSERVATIVE PERSON BY NATURE. 00:31:47.267 --> 00:31:48.033 >> YEAH. 00:31:48.133 --> 00:31:49.167 >> I DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE THIS. 00:31:49.267 --> 00:31:50.634 BUT ONE DAY I HEARD THE LORD SAY, BILL, 00:31:50.734 --> 00:31:52.934 IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU BEING COMFORTABLE. 00:31:53.034 --> 00:31:56.001 IT'S ABOUT YOU BEING OBEDIENT. 00:31:56.101 --> 00:31:58.001 MAN, THAT CONVICTED MY HEART. 00:31:58.101 --> 00:32:00.667 I FELT, I'M SORRY, LORD, I REPENT. 00:32:00.767 --> 00:32:01.867 I'LL GO. 00:32:01.967 --> 00:32:03.567 NOW IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. 00:32:03.667 --> 00:32:06.367 IF ONE PERSON CAN COME TO THE LIGHT OF THE SCRIPTURE 00:32:06.467 --> 00:32:07.667 AND AVOID THIS HORRIBLE PLACE, 00:32:07.767 --> 00:32:09.500 IT'S WORTH ANY UNCOMFORTABLENESS 00:32:09.600 --> 00:32:11.333 I WOULD EVER FEEL. 00:32:11.433 --> 00:32:13.267 >> WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE LORD SHARED WITH 00:32:13.367 --> 00:32:16.133 YOU ON YOUR WAY UP BACK TO YOUR BODY? 00:32:16.233 --> 00:32:17.367 >> YES. 00:32:17.467 --> 00:32:19.534 WHEN I SAW THOSE DEMONS ALONG THE WALL, 00:32:19.634 --> 00:32:20.867 THEY LOOKED SO POWERFUL, RIGHT? 00:32:20.967 --> 00:32:23.467 THESE BIG DEMONS AND THEY HAD SUCH STRENGTH. 00:32:23.567 --> 00:32:25.767 AND WHEN THE LORD SHOWED UP, 00:32:25.867 --> 00:32:27.734 ALL OF A SUDDEN THOSE DEMONS APPEARED TO LOOK 00:32:27.834 --> 00:32:29.234 LIKE ANTS TO ME. 00:32:29.334 --> 00:32:30.400 >> INTERESTING. 00:32:30.500 --> 00:32:32.234 >> AND I THOUGHT, LORD, DID THEY REALLY SHRINK UP? 00:32:32.334 --> 00:32:34.367 OR WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SHOW ME? 00:32:34.467 --> 00:32:36.567 AND I BELIEVE HE WAS TRYING TO SHOW ME THAT IN 00:32:36.667 --> 00:32:40.600 THE NAME OF JESUS, IT'S SO POWERFUL THAT THOSE DEMONS 00:32:40.700 --> 00:32:43.134 ARE LIKE A STEPPING ON AN ANT. 00:32:43.234 --> 00:32:44.001 THEY'RE NOT A BIG DEAL. 00:32:44.101 --> 00:32:45.367 IF YOU'RE WALKING WITH GOD, 00:32:45.467 --> 00:32:46.901 YOU KNOW THE AUTHORITY. 00:32:47.001 --> 00:32:49.134 WE HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE DEMONIC REALM, 00:32:49.234 --> 00:32:51.667 AND THEY'RE NOT POWERFUL COMPARED TO JESUS. 00:32:51.767 --> 00:32:53.234 AND THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO SHOW ME. 00:32:53.334 --> 00:32:54.334 THEY'RE LIKE AN ANT. 00:32:54.434 --> 00:32:56.500 YOU WOULDN'T THINK MUCH OF STEPPING ON AN ANT. 00:32:56.600 --> 00:32:59.300 THAT'S HOW HE WANTS US TO SEE DEMONS, 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.167 YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN CAST THEM OUT AND TAKE 00:33:01.267 --> 00:33:03.300 AUTHORITY OVER THEM. 00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.567 AND THEN WHEN WE WENT ABOVE THE EARTH, 00:33:05.667 --> 00:33:06.633 WE CAME OUT OF THIS TUNNEL, 00:33:06.733 --> 00:33:09.267 WENT ABOVE THE EARTH, AND I COULD LOOK BACK 00:33:09.367 --> 00:33:10.367 AT THIS TUNNEL. 00:33:10.467 --> 00:33:11.701 AND THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE WERE FALLING ONE AFTER 00:33:11.801 --> 00:33:13.334 ANOTHER, BACK DOWN INTO HELL. 00:33:13.434 --> 00:33:15.867 AND THAT'S, HE WANTED ME TO REMEMBER THAT THE ANGUISH 00:33:15.967 --> 00:33:18.234 HE FELT FOR THOSE PEOPLE FALLING IN HELL. 00:33:18.334 --> 00:33:20.267 SO I WOULD GO AND SHARE THE GOSPEL, 00:33:20.367 --> 00:33:22.933 BE MORE PASSIONATE TO SHARE THE TRUTH. 00:33:23.033 --> 00:33:24.467 AND THEN WE CAME BACK TO THE EARTH, 00:33:24.567 --> 00:33:26.667 WE CAME QUICKLY BACK UP THE EARTH, 00:33:26.767 --> 00:33:29.200 AND I COULD SEE THROUGH MY ROOF OF THE HOUSE, 00:33:29.300 --> 00:33:31.567 AND I SAW MY BODY LYING ON THE FLOOR. 00:33:31.667 --> 00:33:33.767 AND IT LOOKED SO TEMPORAL, YOU KNOW, 00:33:33.867 --> 00:33:36.034 IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WOULD LOOK AT YOUR CAR. 00:33:36.134 --> 00:33:37.633 IT'S A VEHICLE TO GET AROUND IN, 00:33:37.733 --> 00:33:38.800 BUT IT'S NOT YOU. 00:33:38.900 --> 00:33:40.867 THE REAL YOU IS YOUR SPIRIT. 00:33:40.967 --> 00:33:42.033 >> WOW. 00:33:42.133 --> 00:33:43.501 >> AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHEN I WAS WITH THE LORD, 00:33:43.601 --> 00:33:47.301 THE PEACE OF GOD WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. 00:33:47.401 --> 00:33:49.467 YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO PRESSURE OF TIME. 00:33:49.567 --> 00:33:52.434 THERE WAS JUST I FELT LIKE I WAS HOME. 00:33:52.534 --> 00:33:53.901 I'M WITH THE LORD NOW. 00:33:54.001 --> 00:33:55.834 AND THERE WAS SUCH A PEACE AND I FELT 00:33:55.934 --> 00:33:58.667 SO ACCEPTED AND LOVED. 00:33:58.767 --> 00:34:01.233 THERE'S -- IT'S A LOVE THAT YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN ON THE 00:34:01.333 --> 00:34:04.033 EARTH HERE THAT WE HAVE WITH JESUS. 00:34:04.133 --> 00:34:06.367 SO IT'S SOMETHING REALLY TO LOOK FORWARD TO BEING 00:34:06.467 --> 00:34:08.667 WITH THE LORD AND BEING IN HEAVEN AND HAVING THAT 00:34:08.767 --> 00:34:11.701 PEACE AND NO BURDEN OF TIME. 00:34:11.801 --> 00:34:14.067 IT WAS LIKE SOMEBODY TOOK A BARBELL OFF MY BACK, 00:34:14.167 --> 00:34:15.667 YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS IN A RUSH, RIGHT? 00:34:15.767 --> 00:34:16.734 WE GOT TO GET IT DONE. 00:34:16.834 --> 00:34:19.634 WELL, IN GOD'S PRESENCE AND IN HEAVEN, 00:34:19.734 --> 00:34:21.101 THERE IS NO PRESSURE OF TIME. 00:34:21.201 --> 00:34:23.267 YOU JUST LIVE IN THE MOMENT. 00:34:23.367 --> 00:34:25.001 AND SO THAT WAS A -- 00:34:25.101 --> 00:34:26.200 IT'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT HE 00:34:26.300 --> 00:34:28.967 LET ME ENJOY, YOU KNOW. 00:34:29.067 --> 00:34:31.767 AND THEN I SAW A PUFF OF SMOKE GO UP WHEN I LOOKED 00:34:31.867 --> 00:34:34.801 AT MY BODY AND I SAID, LORD, WHAT WAS THAT? 00:34:34.901 --> 00:34:38.534 HE SAID, JAMES 4:14, LIFE IS BUT A VAPOR. 00:34:38.634 --> 00:34:40.400 I THOUGHT, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. 00:34:40.500 --> 00:34:41.400 COMPARED TO ETERNITY, 00:34:41.500 --> 00:34:44.001 OUR LIFE IS GONE IN LIKE A TEA KETTLE, 00:34:44.101 --> 00:34:45.300 A PUFF OF SMOKE. 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:46.934 I THOUGHT, LORD, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. 00:34:47.034 --> 00:34:49.367 HE SAID, YES, BUT WHAT YOU DO FOR ME DURING THAT 00:34:49.467 --> 00:34:53.467 SHORT TIME, I WILL COUNT FOR ALL ETERNITY. 00:34:53.567 --> 00:34:54.633 >> WOW. 00:34:54.733 --> 00:34:56.934 >> THAT GAVE ME A BETTER OVERALL ETERNAL PERSPECTIVE. 00:34:57.034 --> 00:35:00.767 WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN LIFE IS TO SERVE GOD, RIGHT? 00:35:00.867 --> 00:35:02.567 AND TO DO ALL WE CAN FOR HIM. 00:35:02.667 --> 00:35:03.700 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LIVE OUR LIVES, 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.167 BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR MIND LIKE 00:35:06.267 --> 00:35:08.667 HIS, LIKE HE'S CONCERNED FOR SOULS. 00:35:08.767 --> 00:35:10.234 HE DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY TO GO TO HELL. 00:35:10.334 --> 00:35:12.601 SO CAN WE EACH DAY GET UP AND SAY, LORD, 00:35:12.701 --> 00:35:13.867 USE ME TODAY. 00:35:13.967 --> 00:35:16.667 PUT ME IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY TODAY I CAN SHARE 00:35:16.767 --> 00:35:18.600 YOUR WORD WITH AND AND WATCH FOR THOSE 00:35:18.700 --> 00:35:22.100 OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, AND BE SENSITIVE WITH PEOPLE. 00:35:22.200 --> 00:35:24.634 YOU DON'T BEAT PEOPLE OVER THE HEAD WITH A BIBLE, 00:35:24.734 --> 00:35:27.033 BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST WHEREVER YOU CAN, 00:35:27.133 --> 00:35:29.201 YOU TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE WORD OF GOD 00:35:29.301 --> 00:35:32.301 WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD, LOVING MESSAGE. 00:35:32.401 --> 00:35:33.267 >> YEAH. 00:35:33.367 --> 00:35:34.967 >> YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THAT GAVE ME THAT 00:35:35.067 --> 00:35:37.500 OVERALL ETERNAL PERSPECTIVE. 00:35:37.600 --> 00:35:40.333 >> AND THEN WHEN YOU DID, YOU SEE YOURSELF GO BACK 00:35:40.433 --> 00:35:41.734 INTO YOUR BODY OR WAS LIKE, 00:35:41.834 --> 00:35:42.667 YOU JUST KIND OF WOKE UP? 00:35:42.767 --> 00:35:43.667 >> NO, I SAW MY BODY. 00:35:43.767 --> 00:35:45.934 I SAW MYSELF, AND I WENT BACK IN. 00:35:46.034 --> 00:35:48.001 I FELT LIKE I CAME IN THROUGH MY MOUTH OR NOSE. 00:35:48.101 --> 00:35:51.000 I COULDN'T TELL, BUT WHEN I CAME BACK IN, 00:35:51.100 --> 00:35:53.367 THAT PIECE LEFT, BECAUSE THE LORD LEFT, AND NOW THE 00:35:53.467 --> 00:35:56.600 MEMORIES OF HELL FLOODED BACK INTO MY MIND BECAUSE 00:35:56.700 --> 00:35:57.767 I JUST CAME OUT OF HELL. 00:35:57.867 --> 00:36:01.067 AND SO THOSE THOUGHTS FLOODED BACK IN MY MIND. 00:36:01.167 --> 00:36:03.800 THE HORROR, THE TERROR, THE -- THE STENCH, 00:36:03.900 --> 00:36:06.567 ALL THOSE THINGS AND HEARING THE PEOPLE SCREAMING. 00:36:06.667 --> 00:36:10.001 AND SO I ACTUALLY WENT INTO A TRAUMATIZED STATE. 00:36:10.101 --> 00:36:13.700 I STARTED SCREAMING, AND I WAS IN A FETAL POSITION ON 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.434 THE FLOOR, ROLLING ON THE FLOOR, SCREAMING. 00:36:16.534 --> 00:36:17.300 AND THAT'S NOT LIKE ME. 00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.201 I'M VERY CALM AND CONSERVATIVE. 00:36:19.301 --> 00:36:21.700 AND MY SCREAMS WOKE UP MY WIFE. 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.567 AND WHEN I GOT UP, I GOT UP AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING, 00:36:23.667 --> 00:36:25.067 I SAW THE DIGITAL CLOCK. 00:36:25.167 --> 00:36:27.967 AND WHEN SHE WOKE UP, SHE, 00:36:28.067 --> 00:36:29.067 YOU KNOW, WAS STARTLED. 00:36:29.167 --> 00:36:31.867 SHE LOOKED AT HER DIGITAL CLOCK AND IT SAID, 3:23. 00:36:31.967 --> 00:36:33.734 SO THAT'S WHERE THE 23 COMES FROM. 00:36:33.834 --> 00:36:34.967 BUT SHE FOUND ME ON THE FLOOR, 00:36:35.067 --> 00:36:37.401 AND SHE, AT FIRST DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS HAVING 00:36:37.501 --> 00:36:39.634 A HEART ATTACK OR WHAT WAS GOING ON. 00:36:39.734 --> 00:36:42.367 BUT SHE SAID SHE FELT A PEACE ACTUALLY, 00:36:42.467 --> 00:36:44.201 BECAUSE SHE KNEW IT WAS SPIRITUAL. 00:36:44.301 --> 00:36:45.267 AND I GOT OUT OF MY MOUTH, 00:36:45.367 --> 00:36:46.267 PRAY FOR ME, PRAY FOR ME, 00:36:46.367 --> 00:36:48.567 THE LORD HAS TAKEN ME TO HELL. 00:36:48.667 --> 00:36:49.667 AND SHE PRAYED. 00:36:49.767 --> 00:36:52.833 AND GOD REMOVED THE HORROR BUT LEFT THE MEMORY. 00:36:52.933 --> 00:36:54.567 YOU KNOW, HE CAN DIVIDE BOTH SOUL AND SPIRIT. 00:36:54.667 --> 00:36:57.133 SO SOMEHOW HE TOOK AWAY THAT HORROR SO I WOULDN'T 00:36:57.233 --> 00:36:59.767 BE TRAUMATIZED AND HAVE NIGHTMARES. 00:36:59.867 --> 00:37:01.267 I'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 00:37:01.367 --> 00:37:03.934 BUT HE LEFT ME WITH THE MEMORY OF IT, 00:37:04.034 --> 00:37:05.633 AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO CALM DOWN. 00:37:05.733 --> 00:37:08.101 AND THE FIRST THING I DID WAS ASK FOR A GLASS OF WATER. 00:37:08.201 --> 00:37:09.267 >> YEAH. 00:37:09.367 --> 00:37:11.067 >> YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ONE DROP IN HELL. 00:37:11.167 --> 00:37:13.667 AND IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL TO SEE WATER, YOU KNOW, 00:37:13.767 --> 00:37:16.333 LIFE CONTAINED IN A GLASS, YOU KNOW. 00:37:16.433 --> 00:37:19.200 REVELATION 21:6 EQUATES WATER WITH LIFE, 00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:21.201 AND IN HELL THERE IS NO LIFE. 00:37:21.301 --> 00:37:24.967 SO WE BECAME WATERAHOLICS, YOU KNOW. 00:37:25.067 --> 00:37:27.300 >> SO WHERE DID YOU GO FROM THERE? 00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.634 IS THAT WHEN YOU STARTED REALLY GETTING INTO THE WORD? 00:37:29.734 --> 00:37:30.834 >> WELL, I WAS ALWAYS INTO THE WORD, 00:37:30.934 --> 00:37:33.034 BUT I STARTED STUDYING ABOUT HELL. 00:37:33.134 --> 00:37:33.967 I WANTED TO FIND OUT, 00:37:34.067 --> 00:37:36.167 OKAY, THIS IS FROM THE LORD, BUT THIS, 00:37:36.267 --> 00:37:37.633 THIS MUST BE IN THE BIBLE. 00:37:37.733 --> 00:37:40.033 EVERYTHING I SAW MUST ALREADY BE IN THE BIBLE 00:37:40.133 --> 00:37:42.334 BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T WANT ME TO ADD TO THE WORD. 00:37:42.434 --> 00:37:43.600 SO I STARTED STUDYING. 00:37:43.700 --> 00:37:45.334 SO FOR THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS I STUDIED, 00:37:45.434 --> 00:37:47.101 I READ EVERYTHING I COULD ABOUT HELL. 00:37:47.201 --> 00:37:49.267 I LISTENED TO EVERY MESSAGE FROM EVERYBODY ON 00:37:49.367 --> 00:37:51.234 HELL FOR THOSE SEVEN YEARS, 00:37:51.334 --> 00:37:52.767 AND I WAS ASKED TO TRAVEL DURING THAT TIME. 00:37:52.867 --> 00:37:54.667 SO WE TRAVELED, SPOKE ON IT, 00:37:54.767 --> 00:37:57.067 BUT I NOTICED A LOT OF THE MESSAGES THAT WERE GIVEN 00:37:57.167 --> 00:38:00.534 BY PEOPLE THAT DID SPEAK ON HELL WERE HARSH, HARD. 00:38:00.634 --> 00:38:02.501 YOU'RE GOING TO BURN, YOU DIRTY SINNER. 00:38:02.601 --> 00:38:03.967 IT WAS LIKE THAT AND I THOUGHT, 00:38:04.067 --> 00:38:06.133 THAT'S NOT GOD'S HEART. 00:38:06.233 --> 00:38:10.800 HELL IS SEVERE, BUT HIS GREAT LOVE IS OVERWHELMING 00:38:10.900 --> 00:38:12.534 AND HE GOES THROUGH GREAT LENGTHS TO KEEP 00:38:12.634 --> 00:38:14.100 PEOPLE OUT OF HELL. 00:38:14.200 --> 00:38:16.000 YOU KNOW, THERE'S EVEN A SCRIPTURE IN JOB 33 WHERE 00:38:16.100 --> 00:38:18.901 IT SAYS HE EVEN GIVES MAN DREAMS AND VISIONS TO KEEP 00:38:19.001 --> 00:38:21.034 BACK HIS SOUL FROM THE PIT. 00:38:21.134 --> 00:38:23.334 SO, GOD, IF THAT PERSON JUST SHOWS AN OUNCE OF 00:38:23.434 --> 00:38:26.734 HUMILITY AND LORD, WHO ARE YOU? 00:38:26.834 --> 00:38:29.167 HE WILL FIND A WAY TO GET THROUGH TO THEM SO HE CAN 00:38:29.267 --> 00:38:30.801 SHARE THE WAY OF SALVATION SO THEY DON'T HAVE 00:38:30.901 --> 00:38:31.834 TO GO TO HELL. 00:38:31.934 --> 00:38:33.067 AND I WANTED TO GET THAT ACROSS 00:38:33.167 --> 00:38:35.000 THE MESSAGE, HIS GREAT LOVE, 00:38:35.100 --> 00:38:37.501 BUT ALSO THE SEVERITY OF HELL. 00:38:37.601 --> 00:38:40.401 SO PEOPLE KNOW IT'S REAL AND IT'S YOUR CHOICE IF 00:38:40.501 --> 00:38:42.634 YOU GO THERE. 00:38:42.734 --> 00:38:47.134 >> WHAT WOULD YOUR MESSAGE TO BELIEVERS BE NOW? 00:38:47.234 --> 00:38:48.267 >> DEFINITELY, 00:38:48.367 --> 00:38:52.067 LIKE I SAID IT DID TO ME, CAUSE YOU TO WALK MORE IN 00:38:52.167 --> 00:38:53.901 THE FEAR OF THE LORD. 00:38:54.001 --> 00:38:56.401 APPRECIATE WHAT YOU WERE SAVED FROM, 00:38:56.501 --> 00:38:59.567 AND HAVE MORE OF A PASSION FOR THE LOST. 00:38:59.667 --> 00:39:00.834 SHARE THE WORD OF GOD WITH PEOPLE. 00:39:00.934 --> 00:39:02.701 TAKE MORE EFFORT, YOU KNOW, 00:39:02.801 --> 00:39:04.467 2 CORINTHIANS 5:10, 11 PAUL SAID, 00:39:04.567 --> 00:39:06.534 KNOWING THEREFORE THE TERROR OF THE LORD, 00:39:06.634 --> 00:39:08.267 WE PERSUADE MEN. 00:39:08.367 --> 00:39:09.567 SO EVEN THOUGH THE SCRIPTURES TALK ABOUT 00:39:09.667 --> 00:39:11.400 JUDGMENT SEAT, THE REWARD SEAT FOR CHRISTIANS, 00:39:11.500 --> 00:39:13.301 MOST COMMENTARIES SAY THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT 00:39:13.401 --> 00:39:14.700 JUDGMENT HELL IN GENERAL. 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.334 SO WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND JUDGMENT, HELL IN GENERAL, 00:39:16.434 --> 00:39:18.700 YOU'LL BE MORE PERSUASIVE WITH MEN. 00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.500 SO SEE, IT'LL GIVE YOU MORE OF THAT PASSION. 00:39:20.600 --> 00:39:22.467 WHEN YOU SEE HOW SEVERE IT IS, YOU'LL THINK, MAN, 00:39:22.567 --> 00:39:24.734 I CAN'T LET MY FAMILY OR MY FRIENDS GO THERE. 00:39:24.834 --> 00:39:27.101 I'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO GET THROUGH TO THEM. 00:39:27.201 --> 00:39:28.700 MAYBE YOU'LL GET ON YOUR KNEES, 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:29.634 YOU'LL PRAY AND FAST. 00:39:29.734 --> 00:39:31.534 YOU'LL CRY OUT TO GOD. 00:39:31.634 --> 00:39:34.133 YOU'LL BE MORE, YOU KNOW, PERSUASIVE. 00:39:34.233 --> 00:39:36.667 YOU'LL BE MORE ATTENTIVE WITH YOUR PRAYER. 00:39:36.767 --> 00:39:38.767 >> AND I GUESS YOUR MESSAGE TO THE LOST WOULD 00:39:38.867 --> 00:39:41.400 BE, RECEIVE JESUS. 00:39:41.500 --> 00:39:42.634 >> WAKE UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. 00:39:42.701 --> 00:39:43.467 >> YEAH. 00:39:43.567 --> 00:39:44.433 >> YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, 00:39:44.533 --> 00:39:46.400 ONE SECOND AFTER YOU DIE, IT'S TOO LATE. 00:39:46.500 --> 00:39:48.000 YOU WON'T GET A SECOND CHANCE. 00:39:48.100 --> 00:39:50.634 AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DIE. 00:39:50.734 --> 00:39:52.233 YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE AT A CHURCH, 00:39:52.333 --> 00:39:56.000 AND THE NEPHEW OF THE PASTOR BROUGHT HIS BEST FRIEND. 00:39:56.100 --> 00:39:56.967 HIS BEST FRIEND WAS NOT SAVED. 00:39:57.067 --> 00:39:58.501 HE WAS 23 YEARS OLD. 00:39:58.601 --> 00:39:59.733 AND HE SAID AFTERWARDS, HE GOES, BILL, 00:39:59.833 --> 00:40:00.800 I DON'T BELIEVE YOU AT ALL. 00:40:00.900 --> 00:40:02.567 THAT BIBLE STUFF IS HOCUS POCUS. 00:40:02.667 --> 00:40:03.634 I DON'T BELIEVE IT. 00:40:03.734 --> 00:40:05.101 AND HIS FRIEND SAID, YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND. 00:40:05.201 --> 00:40:06.567 I WANT YOU TO GO TO HEAVEN. 00:40:06.667 --> 00:40:07.400 WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT? 00:40:07.500 --> 00:40:08.667 AND HE GOES, I DON'T BELIEVE IT. 00:40:08.767 --> 00:40:10.067 SO THEY WENT TO BREAKFAST THE NEXT DAY. 00:40:10.167 --> 00:40:11.200 THIS IS A TRUE STORY. 00:40:11.300 --> 00:40:12.134 WENT TO BREAKFAST. 00:40:12.234 --> 00:40:13.101 HE SAID, PLEASE, YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND. 00:40:13.201 --> 00:40:14.334 I REALLY WANT YOU TO GO TO HEAVEN. 00:40:14.434 --> 00:40:16.733 HE GOES, I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THAT, IT'S NONSENSE. 00:40:16.833 --> 00:40:18.767 HE GOT UP FROM THE BREAKFAST, GOT IN HIS CAR. 00:40:18.867 --> 00:40:21.467 FIVE MINUTES LATER, HIS CAR HIT A BRICK WALL AND HE DIED. 00:40:21.567 --> 00:40:22.567 >> OH. 00:40:22.667 --> 00:40:23.901 >> HE'S ONLY 23. 00:40:24.001 --> 00:40:25.901 NOW HE DIDN'T EXPECT TO DIE THAT DAY. 00:40:26.001 --> 00:40:27.800 AND HIS FRIEND WAS THINKING IF HE DIDN'T 00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:30.001 CHANGE IN THAT LAST FIVE MINUTES, 00:40:30.101 --> 00:40:31.400 HE'S GOT AN ETERNITY 00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:33.034 NOW TO THINK ABOUT 00:40:33.134 --> 00:40:35.100 WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN? 00:40:35.200 --> 00:40:37.167 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. 00:40:37.267 --> 00:40:38.400 YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE THIEF ON THE CROSS. 00:40:38.500 --> 00:40:41.600 THE ONE RECEIVED JESUS, THE OTHER ONE DIDN'T. 00:40:41.700 --> 00:40:42.767 AND JUST THINK HE'S IN HELL 00:40:42.867 --> 00:40:46.500 THINKING I HUNG NEXT TO THE SAVIOR. 00:40:46.600 --> 00:40:49.133 HE COULD HAVE REPENTED AND RECEIVED JESUS. 00:40:49.233 --> 00:40:51.267 SO IT GIVES US THAT URGENCY, YOU KNOW? 00:40:51.367 --> 00:40:53.467 SO AS CHRISTIANS, I WOULD JUST SAY GET 00:40:53.567 --> 00:40:55.700 AN OVERALL ETERNAL PERSPECTIVE. 00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:57.334 YOU KNOW, THIS LIFE IS SHORT AND WE DON'T HAVE 00:40:57.434 --> 00:40:58.401 A LOT OF TIME LEFT, 00:40:58.501 --> 00:40:59.467 I DON'T THINK. 00:40:59.567 --> 00:41:01.700 SO WE NEED TO BE ABOUT THE FATHER'S BUSINESS. 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:02.733 AND WHAT WE DO FOR HIM, 00:41:02.833 --> 00:41:05.201 IT WILL COUNT FOR ALL ETERNITY. 00:41:05.301 --> 00:41:08.367 >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE THINGS, I FEEL LIKE 00:41:08.467 --> 00:41:09.500 YOU'VE KIND OF HIT ON THIS, 00:41:09.600 --> 00:41:11.600 BUT WHAT ARE BELIEVERS DOING AND FOCUSING ON THAT 00:41:11.700 --> 00:41:14.767 YOU FEEL LIKE SHOULD NOT BE A FOCUS FOR THEM? 00:41:14.867 --> 00:41:16.634 LIKE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE MAKING MAJOR 00:41:16.734 --> 00:41:18.667 THAT SHOULD NOT BE AS BIG OF A DEAL? 00:41:18.767 --> 00:41:20.267 >> WELL, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS IN LIFE PEOPLE GET 00:41:20.367 --> 00:41:22.667 WRAPPED UP IN AND SPEND SO MUCH TIME. 00:41:22.767 --> 00:41:25.401 I MEAN, SOME, SOME THINGS ARE SPORTS, 00:41:25.501 --> 00:41:27.167 AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH SPORTS, YOU KNOW? 00:41:27.267 --> 00:41:28.900 BUT SOME PEOPLE GET SO CONSUMED, 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:29.900 THEY GOT TO WATCH EVERY GAME. 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.767 THEY GOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY, 00:41:31.867 --> 00:41:32.634 THEY KNOW EVERY PLAYER. 00:41:32.734 --> 00:41:33.334 THEY KNOW EVERYTHING. 00:41:33.434 --> 00:41:35.467 THEY SPEND SO MUCH EFFORT. 00:41:35.567 --> 00:41:36.867 AND THEY'RE NOT PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE. 00:41:36.967 --> 00:41:38.401 THEY'RE JUST PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, 00:41:38.501 --> 00:41:40.134 SO YOU GOT TO HAVE A BALANCE, OF COURSE, 00:41:40.234 --> 00:41:42.334 AND YOU CAN HAVE SPORTS AND ALL THAT. 00:41:42.434 --> 00:41:43.367 THAT'S JUST ONE THING. 00:41:43.467 --> 00:41:44.733 AND THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS 00:41:44.833 --> 00:41:47.267 PEOPLE GET WRAPPED UP IN HOBBIES AND DIFFERENT 00:41:47.367 --> 00:41:50.267 THINGS THAT TAKE UP SO MUCH TIME AND TAKE AWAY 00:41:50.367 --> 00:41:53.601 FROM THE TIME YOU COULD SPEND STUDYING THE WORD 00:41:53.701 --> 00:41:55.234 AND BEING A WITNESS. 00:41:55.334 --> 00:41:57.734 YOU KNOW, WE ARE AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST 00:41:57.834 --> 00:41:59.500 AND WE SHOULD BE THE BEST WE CAN AS A 00:41:59.600 --> 00:42:02.167 REPRESENTATIVE OF THE KINGDOM. 00:42:02.267 --> 00:42:04.433 IT'S NOT JUST OUR PREACHING TO SOMEBODY. 00:42:04.533 --> 00:42:05.867 YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST SHARE THE WORD OF GOD. 00:42:05.967 --> 00:42:07.934 IT'S JUST YOUR EXAMPLE. 00:42:08.034 --> 00:42:11.167 CHARLES SPURGEON SAID 90% IS YOUR LIFE EXAMPLE. 00:42:11.267 --> 00:42:12.134 PEOPLE WATCH YOU. 00:42:12.234 --> 00:42:13.434 DO YOU KEEP YOUR WORD? 00:42:13.534 --> 00:42:14.933 DO YOU SHOW UP ON TIME FOR WORK? 00:42:15.033 --> 00:42:16.100 DO YOU WORK WITH EXCELLENCE? 00:42:16.200 --> 00:42:17.633 DO YOU GO ABOVE AND BEYOND? 00:42:17.733 --> 00:42:20.267 DO YOU SHOW LOVE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE UGLY AND MEAN TO YOU? 00:42:20.367 --> 00:42:21.667 DO YOU FORGIVE QUICKLY? 00:42:21.767 --> 00:42:24.300 THOSE ARE THINGS THE WORLD WATCHES US. 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.567 AND IF WE CAN BE THINKING THAT ALL THE TIME, 00:42:26.667 --> 00:42:29.433 I WANT TO BE THE BEST EXAMPLE I CAN FOR THE KINGDOM. 00:42:29.533 --> 00:42:32.134 SO THEN THOSE PEOPLE LATER SAY, WHAT IS IT WITH YOU? 00:42:32.234 --> 00:42:33.800 YOU DON'T GET RILED, YOU FORGIVE PEOPLE, 00:42:33.900 --> 00:42:36.333 YOU'RE -- THEY WILL NOTICE THAT AND ASK YOU. 00:42:36.433 --> 00:42:39.234 THEN IT GIVES YOU A DOOR, AN OPENING TO BE ABLE TO 00:42:39.334 --> 00:42:41.400 SHARE THE WORD OF GOD WITH THEM. 00:42:41.500 --> 00:42:44.834 >> ANY ADVICE ON WITNESSING TO THE LOST? 00:42:44.934 --> 00:42:46.334 >> WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, 00:42:46.434 --> 00:42:47.734 NUMBER ONE IS IF YOU'RE -- 00:42:47.834 --> 00:42:48.734 IF IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE A 00:42:48.834 --> 00:42:51.234 FRIEND OR FAMILY, WE NEED TO PRAY FIRST. 00:42:51.334 --> 00:42:53.700 A LOT OF PRAYING FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.834 AND THEN ASK GOD TO SEND LABORS ACROSS THEIR PATH 00:42:56.934 --> 00:42:58.534 THAT THEY WOULD RESPECT. 00:42:58.634 --> 00:42:59.600 FAMILY IS REAL HARD TO 00:42:59.700 --> 00:43:02.567 WITNESS TO, BUT LABORS THAT THEY WOULD RESPECT. 00:43:02.667 --> 00:43:04.834 MAYBE PRAY AND FAST FOR THEM. 00:43:04.934 --> 00:43:07.367 THE LORD TOLD ME ONE FRIEND OF I HAD THAT WAS 00:43:07.467 --> 00:43:09.933 A TOTAL HEATHEN, AGNOSTIC GUY, 00:43:10.033 --> 00:43:11.767 AND HE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BIBLE. 00:43:11.867 --> 00:43:13.300 AND HE WAS VERY WEALTHY GUY. 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.701 AND THE LORD TOLD ME PRAY AND FAST FOR SEVEN DAYS 00:43:15.801 --> 00:43:17.100 FOR HIM. 00:43:17.200 --> 00:43:19.734 I DIDN'T LIKE TO WANT TO DO THAT, SEVEN-DAY WATER FAST, 00:43:19.834 --> 00:43:21.867 YOU KNOW, AND I DID, AND I CAME TO WORK ON THE 00:43:21.967 --> 00:43:23.767 EIGHTH DAY, CAME TO WORK. 00:43:23.867 --> 00:43:24.900 AND HE COMES IN THE DOOR 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.801 AT THE OFFICE AND HE SAYS HE HAD A STARTLED LOOK ON 00:43:26.901 --> 00:43:28.300 HIS FACE, AND HE GOES, BILL, 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:29.967 I GOT TO TALK TO YOU. 00:43:30.067 --> 00:43:31.201 AND SO I WENT IN THE BACK AND I TALKED TO HIM, 00:43:31.301 --> 00:43:32.567 AND HE SAYS, YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT. 00:43:32.667 --> 00:43:36.500 BUT LAST NIGHT I PULLED IN MY GARAGE AND JESUS CHRIST 00:43:36.600 --> 00:43:38.534 SHOWED UP IN MY GARAGE. 00:43:38.634 --> 00:43:39.434 I FELL ON MY KNEES. 00:43:39.534 --> 00:43:40.934 HE SAID, I'VE BEEN CRYING ALL NIGHT. 00:43:41.034 --> 00:43:41.967 I'VE WEPT. 00:43:42.067 --> 00:43:44.033 I'VE RECEIVED JESUS AS MY LORD AND SAVIOR. 00:43:44.133 --> 00:43:45.200 I SAID, YOU? 00:43:45.300 --> 00:43:46.834 HE'S BEEN SO FAR AWAY FROM IT, 00:43:46.934 --> 00:43:47.834 YOU KNOW. 00:43:47.934 --> 00:43:50.400 BUT THAT WAS THE SEVENTH NIGHT OF THE FAST. 00:43:50.500 --> 00:43:51.401 >> WOW. 00:43:51.501 --> 00:43:52.033 >> AND THE LORD TOLD ME TO PRAY AND FAST 00:43:52.133 --> 00:43:53.234 SEVEN DAYS. 00:43:53.334 --> 00:43:55.667 SO YOU NEVER KNOW HOW SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET SAVED. 00:43:55.767 --> 00:43:57.767 BUT IF WE'D JUST BE OBEDIENT AND BE SENSITIVE 00:43:57.867 --> 00:43:59.500 TO THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:43:59.600 --> 00:44:00.633 CAN I SHARE ONE MORE QUICK STORY? 00:44:00.733 --> 00:44:01.800 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. 00:44:01.900 --> 00:44:03.867 >> I WAS LISTING A HOME IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE 00:44:03.967 --> 00:44:05.400 LADY KNEW I WAS A CHRISTIAN. 00:44:05.500 --> 00:44:07.034 SHE WAS ELDERLY AND SHE SAID, LOOK, 00:44:07.134 --> 00:44:09.000 YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE WEIRD CHRISTIANS. 00:44:09.100 --> 00:44:11.667 I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE, OKAY? 00:44:11.767 --> 00:44:12.500 YOU SIGN, 00:44:12.600 --> 00:44:13.634 SHE SIGNED THE LISTING. 00:44:13.734 --> 00:44:15.667 SHE GOES, SELL MY HOUSE AND DON'T EVER TALK TO ME 00:44:15.767 --> 00:44:17.067 ABOUT THE BIBLE. 00:44:17.167 --> 00:44:18.300 WELL, NORMALLY YOU WOULD RESPECT THAT. 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:20.167 AND YOU'D SAY, FINE, I'M NOT GOING TO PUSH ANYTHING 00:44:20.267 --> 00:44:21.900 ON ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR IT. 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.900 BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS TELLING ME OTHERWISE, 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:25.201 SAID, DON'T LET HER OFF THE HOOK. 00:44:25.301 --> 00:44:27.433 YOU TELL HER THE WAY OF SALVATION. 00:44:27.533 --> 00:44:29.034 SO I SAID, NO, YOU'RE GOING TO LISTEN. 00:44:29.134 --> 00:44:29.834 SHE GOES, NO, I'M NOT. 00:44:29.934 --> 00:44:30.501 GET OUT. 00:44:30.601 --> 00:44:31.833 I SAID, NO, YOU SIT DOWN. 00:44:31.933 --> 00:44:33.867 YOU'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO ME FOR TEN MINUTES. 00:44:33.967 --> 00:44:34.501 SO SHE LISTENS. 00:44:34.601 --> 00:44:35.501 SHE SITS DOWN. 00:44:35.601 --> 00:44:37.034 SO I SHARE WITH HER THE SALVATION, 00:44:37.134 --> 00:44:38.534 TOLD HER HOW MUCH GOD LOVES HER. 00:44:38.634 --> 00:44:41.700 SHE WAS PROBABLY 89 YEARS OLD, ELDERLY WOMAN, 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.067 AND SHE DIDN'T BELIEVE ANY OF IT. 00:44:44.167 --> 00:44:45.967 AND SHE SAYS, GET OUT AND SELL MY HOUSE. 00:44:46.067 --> 00:44:46.934 SO I LEFT. 00:44:47.034 --> 00:44:49.767 ONE HOUR LATER SHE WAS DEAD. 00:44:49.867 --> 00:44:52.500 NOW YOU SEE WHY THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS PROMPTING ME TO 00:44:52.600 --> 00:44:55.333 TELL HER, BECAUSE THAT'S GOD'S GREAT LOVE. 00:44:55.433 --> 00:44:57.000 HE WAS SHOWING HER THE WAY OF SALVATION RIGHT 00:44:57.100 --> 00:44:58.533 TO THE LAST. 00:44:58.633 --> 00:45:01.233 SO SHE HAS NO EXCUSE, YOU KNOW. 00:45:01.333 --> 00:45:03.267 BUT THAT'S IF SHE DIDN'T CHANGE IN THOSE LAST, 00:45:03.367 --> 00:45:05.867 THAT LAST HOUR, SHE'D BE IN HELL AND THINKING, 00:45:05.967 --> 00:45:10.134 WHY DIDN'T I BELIEVE THE BIBLE THAT BILL WIESE TOLD ME? 00:45:10.234 --> 00:45:11.200 >> YEAH. 00:45:11.300 --> 00:45:12.467 AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR 00:45:12.567 --> 00:45:14.933 PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING, NOT TO GET DISCOURAGED, 00:45:15.033 --> 00:45:16.767 IF PEOPLE RESPOND LIKE THAT LADY. 00:45:16.867 --> 00:45:17.667 BECAUSE LIKE YOU WERE 00:45:17.767 --> 00:45:19.634 SAYING, IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO CONVICT, 00:45:19.734 --> 00:45:20.934 IT'S JUST OUR JOB TO SHARE. 00:45:21.034 --> 00:45:22.534 >> IT IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING, 00:45:22.634 --> 00:45:24.301 WHEN THIS FIRST HAPPENED, THE FIRST YEAR, 00:45:24.401 --> 00:45:26.101 I FELT LIKE I HAD TO TACKLE EVERYBODY TO 00:45:26.201 --> 00:45:27.301 WITNESS TO THEM. 00:45:27.401 --> 00:45:28.933 LIKE, YOU GOT TO GET SAVED. 00:45:29.033 --> 00:45:31.134 YOU KNOW, I WAS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. 00:45:31.234 --> 00:45:33.767 BUT THE LORD HAD TO SHOW ME THAT, 00:45:33.867 --> 00:45:35.834 LOOK, YOU'RE JUST A MESSENGER BOY. 00:45:35.934 --> 00:45:37.067 YOU'RE NOT THE SAVIOR. 00:45:37.167 --> 00:45:39.434 OUR JOB IS JUST TO SHARE THE WORD OF GOD. 00:45:39.534 --> 00:45:40.567 WE DON'T HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM. 00:45:40.667 --> 00:45:42.267 WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK THEM INTO IT. 00:45:42.367 --> 00:45:43.567 JUST TELL THEM THE WAY OF SALVATION, 00:45:43.667 --> 00:45:44.667 HOW MUCH GOD LOVES THEM. 00:45:44.767 --> 00:45:46.834 MAYBE SHARE THEIR OWN TESTIMONY, 00:45:46.934 --> 00:45:49.301 WHAT GOD DID FOR THEM, AND THAT'S IT. 00:45:49.401 --> 00:45:51.867 AND THEN GO TO THE NEXT PERSON, YOU KNOW. 00:45:51.967 --> 00:45:53.134 SO THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, 00:45:53.234 --> 00:45:55.533 WE'RE NOT THE SAVIOR, BUT GOD IS. 00:45:55.633 --> 00:45:58.033 SO ANYWAY, I JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO JUST 00:45:58.133 --> 00:46:00.667 BE SENSITIVE, TAKE OPPORTUNITIES 00:46:00.767 --> 00:46:01.800 WHEREVER THERE IS. 00:46:01.900 --> 00:46:03.167 AND THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES. 00:46:03.267 --> 00:46:04.400 WE ALL HAVE. 00:46:04.500 --> 00:46:05.667 YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON PLANES ALL THE TIME. 00:46:05.767 --> 00:46:08.200 WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMEONE TO WITNESS TO NEXT TO US. 00:46:08.300 --> 00:46:11.333 YOU KNOW, THAT YOU CAN TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AND LET 00:46:11.433 --> 00:46:15.334 THEM TALK FOR A LONG TIME, SHARE ABOUT THEIR LIFE, 00:46:15.434 --> 00:46:17.234 AND MAYBE INTERJECT SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT YOU 00:46:17.334 --> 00:46:19.733 DO OR WHAT THE LORD'S DONE FOR YOU. 00:46:19.833 --> 00:46:21.267 THERE'S, THERE'S WAYS TO GET THROUGH TO PEOPLE. 00:46:21.367 --> 00:46:23.434 ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE A SPIRITUAL BACKGROUND, 00:46:23.534 --> 00:46:24.900 THAT'S ALWAYS OPENED UP THE DOOR. 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:26.934 MOST PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC OR 00:46:27.034 --> 00:46:30.067 WHATEVER, AND YOU CAN THEN TALK ABOUT THE LORD WITH 00:46:30.167 --> 00:46:32.834 PEOPLE WITHOUT HAMMERING IT OVER THEIR HEAD, 00:46:32.934 --> 00:46:34.067 YOU KNOW? 00:46:34.167 --> 00:46:35.834 >> WELL, THIS HAS BEEN SUCH 00:46:35.934 --> 00:46:37.434 AN AMAZING CONVERSATION. 00:46:37.534 --> 00:46:39.633 FOR PEOPLE TO GET CONNECTED TO Y'ALL'S MINISTRY, 00:46:39.733 --> 00:46:41.567 HOW CAN THEY FIND YOU GUYS? 00:46:41.667 --> 00:46:44.900 >> WELL, IT'S 23MINUTESINHELL.ORG 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.634 OR SOULCHOICEMINISTRIES.ORG. 00:46:47.734 --> 00:46:50.800 SOUL, S-O-U-L, CHOICE MINISTRIES.ORG. 00:46:50.900 --> 00:46:52.233 AND THEY CAN WRITE US AND WE HAVE LOTS 00:46:52.333 --> 00:46:53.367 OF INFORMATION UP. 00:46:53.467 --> 00:46:55.500 WE HAVE LOTS OF VIDEOS, PODCASTS AND EVERYTHING 00:46:55.600 --> 00:46:56.500 FOR FREE THEY CAN WATCH 00:46:56.600 --> 00:46:58.167 AND WE'D BE GLAD TO WRITE THEM 00:46:58.267 --> 00:47:00.267 BACK IF THEY WRITE US. 00:47:00.367 --> 00:47:02.167 >> CAN YOU JUST CLOSE US OUT IN A PRAYER FOR THE 00:47:02.267 --> 00:47:03.634 PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING? 00:47:03.734 --> 00:47:04.834 >> SURE. 00:47:04.934 --> 00:47:07.767 WELL, FATHER, WE JUST COME BEFORE YOU IN JESUS' NAME. 00:47:07.867 --> 00:47:09.967 YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE LISTENING, 00:47:10.067 --> 00:47:12.567 REVELATION 20:15 SAYS, WHOSOEVER WAS NOT FOUND 00:47:12.667 --> 00:47:15.067 WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS CAST INTO THE 00:47:15.167 --> 00:47:16.567 LAKE OF FIRE. 00:47:16.667 --> 00:47:18.434 GOD ACTUALLY HAS A BOOK, AND HE'S GOING TO LOOK TO 00:47:18.534 --> 00:47:21.333 SEE IF YOUR NAME IS IN HIS BOOK, 00:47:21.433 --> 00:47:24.201 AND YOU CAN HAVE ASSURANCE THAT YOUR NAME IS IN HIS BOOK. 00:47:24.301 --> 00:47:27.700 IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TURN AWAY FROM SIN, TO REPENT, 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.301 TO SAY, I'M SORRY FOR WHAT I'VE DONE, LORD. 00:47:30.401 --> 00:47:32.534 YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO MENTALLY ASSENT TO THE 00:47:32.634 --> 00:47:34.134 FACT THAT JESUS IS GOD. 00:47:34.234 --> 00:47:36.834 YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE HUMBLE ENOUGH TO ADMIT 00:47:36.934 --> 00:47:39.900 YOU'RE A SINNER, AND I CANNOT SAVE MYSELF. 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.201 IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT AND RECEIVE HIM AS YOUR LORD 00:47:42.301 --> 00:47:45.134 AND SAVIOR, THEN JUST SAY THIS PRAYER WITH ME RIGHT 00:47:45.234 --> 00:47:48.000 NOW AND MEAN THIS FROM YOUR HEART. 00:47:48.100 --> 00:47:50.234 AND DON'T PUT THIS OFF BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW 00:47:50.334 --> 00:47:52.000 THAT YOU'LL HAVE TOMORROW. 00:47:52.100 --> 00:47:54.734 SAY, DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN, 00:47:54.834 --> 00:47:57.234 I KNOW THAT I'M A SINNER 00:47:57.334 --> 00:47:59.833 AND I CANNOT SAVE MYSELF. 00:47:59.933 --> 00:48:03.134 I BELIEVE YOU SENT YOUR SON JESUS 00:48:03.234 --> 00:48:05.467 TO DIE ON A CROSS FOR ME, 00:48:05.567 --> 00:48:07.067 THAT HE WAS CRUCIFIED, 00:48:07.167 --> 00:48:08.667 DIED, AND WAS BURIED, 00:48:08.767 --> 00:48:12.401 BUT ROSE AGAIN AND LIVES FOREVERMORE. 00:48:12.501 --> 00:48:14.334 I ASK YOU TO FORGIVE ME OF MY SINS. 00:48:14.434 --> 00:48:15.734 I'M SORRY. 00:48:15.834 --> 00:48:17.301 COME INTO MY HEART. 00:48:17.401 --> 00:48:20.167 I RECEIVE YOU AS MY LORD AND SAVIOR. 00:48:20.267 --> 00:48:22.100 YOU ARE THE SON OF GOD. 00:48:22.200 --> 00:48:23.901 THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME. 00:48:24.001 --> 00:48:26.134 THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME TO HEAVEN, 00:48:26.234 --> 00:48:29.367 IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. 00:48:29.467 --> 00:48:30.700 >> AMEN. 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:32.567 WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND FOR 00:48:32.667 --> 00:48:34.433 SHARING YOUR STORY WITH US. 00:48:34.533 --> 00:48:35.634 >> I'M HONORED TO BE WITH YOU. 00:48:35.734 --> 00:48:37.700 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:39.534 YOU KNOW, I JUST ONE LAST THING. 00:48:39.634 --> 00:48:41.067 JESUS SAID IN JOHN 14:6, 00:48:41.167 --> 00:48:41.901 I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, 00:48:42.001 --> 00:48:42.667 AND THE LIFE. 00:48:42.767 --> 00:48:44.300 NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:45.467 BUT BY ME. 00:48:45.567 --> 00:48:47.000 HE SAID, HE'S THE ONLY WAY 00:48:47.100 --> 00:48:47.967 AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT. 00:48:48.067 --> 00:48:50.134 THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE 00:48:50.234 --> 00:48:52.900 AS CHRISTIANS WE CAN SHARE. 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:53.434 AMEN. 00:48:53.534 --> 00:48:53.934 >> AMEN. 00:48:54.034 --> 00:48:54.867 >> AMEN. 00:48:54.967 --> 00:48:55.767 THANK YOU SO MUCH.