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Get ready for a teaching that feeds your spirit
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and your mind, where the word is the anchor in
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and doctrine doesn't bend to culture.
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We keep it simple,
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but dive deep revealing a
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and a mission that touches the world.
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Let's join Rick Renner.
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Welcome to today's program.
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My name is Rick Renner
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and I have been sitting in this chair waiting for the clock
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to strike so we could get started.
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And the we, it's not just
me and you, it's me and you
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and Dru Hammer.
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Dru, welcome back to the program.
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Thank you. What an honor.
You look beautiful.
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Thank you
Denise.
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And I are so glad you're here with us.
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Hey, what do you think about Russia?
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Oh no, I don't think
you even understand.
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I have fallen in love with Russia,
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fallen in love.
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I had no idea what a
magnificent city it is.
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And I'm an architectural freak.
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I love it 'cause I'm into
renovating houses and
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Well, you've done 42 different houses.
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Yes I have. I certainly Have
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You even redid Henry Mancini's house?
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I did. I did. That was a wonderful fun one to do.
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You've had a very interesting life.
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I have. Praise the Lord.
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And you can read all about it in her book called, Hammered.
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There she is, Denise. And I think she's so pretty.
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And this book is just,
when I say riveting,
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I really mean it is riveting.
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You know, there's a lot
of books that I pick up
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and I just think that they're
just filled with fluff.
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They're not interesting to me.
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I could not put this book
down, especially when it gets
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to the chapters where it
talks about how she had
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to forgive Michael.
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It is so powerful.
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And I kept thinking this is a book
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that's gonna change people's
lives that are struggling
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with issues of forgiveness.
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So if you wanna know more
about how to get this,
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just go online or give us a call.
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And by the way, when you reach out to us,
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would you please let us
know how to pray for you?
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The Bible says in Jeremiah 33:3,
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Call into me, I'll hear you, I'll answer you,
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I'll show you great and mighty things.
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And we really believe that
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and we know how to pray scripturally.
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You can pray by yourself,
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but it helps to have
somebody pray with you.
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So call the number on the
screen or send us an email
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and we will really pray for you.
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But Dru, today I want to
talk about forgiveness.
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That's a big one
Because
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what you wrote in this
book is like a masterclass
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on forgiveness.
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But I'd like to first go to the words of Jesus
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in Luke 17.
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And Jesus said to the disciples - It is impossible
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but that offenses will come.
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And the word, offenses, in Greek is the word, skandalon.
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It describes something that entraps you
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or something that causes
you to stumble or to falter
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or to lose your way.
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And Jesus says it is absolutely impossible to live life
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without the possibility of being offended.
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And what I've learned
in life is people are
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offended for two reasons.
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You can take every
offense in the whole world
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and put them into two categories.
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It's really that simple.
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It people get offended
because of what someone does
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or they get offended because
of what someone doesn't do.
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Those are the two reasons
people get offended.
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That's it. Well, we could
just stop right there. I mean,
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I mean people say, I can't believe they did that.
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The gist of life.
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Or they say, I expected more of them.
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They didn't do what I thought.
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Those are the two reasons
people get offended.
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And Jesus said this, okay, listen to this in verse 3 -
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Take heed to yourself. If your brother trespass against you.
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And the word trespass would be better translated, if someone
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violates you.
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Well, you know when you're violated,
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it's really hard to get over it.
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And when somebody really
does wrong to you, you want
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to take heed to that person.
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But Jesus said, take heed to yourself.
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And the Greek says, get a grip on yourself.
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Well that's half the battle right there.
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Get a grip on yourself.
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If your brother or anyone
violates you rebuke him.
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Which means you need to be honest. You need to confront it.
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And if he repents, forgive him.
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And the word forgive, is the Greek word, aphiemi.
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And the word, aphiemi, means to permanently dismiss,
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to release, to send it away with no right
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to ever reach over, grab
hold of it, retrieve it,
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and bring it up again.
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A lot of people think they've forgiven,
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but they keep bringing
it up and bringing it up
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and bringing it up and bringing it up.
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And when Jesus said, guys,
if you've really forgiven,
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you've gotta let it go
and let it go forever.
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The disciples responded by saying, Lord, increase our faith.
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And then Jesus answered in verse 6
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and said - If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed,
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well, mustard seed was the smallest seed in Israel.
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It was the equivalent of saying,
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quit telling me you need
more faith to do this.
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You don't need more faith. You
just need to make a decision.
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And if you'll make a decision, you can speak
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to the sycamine tree.
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Well the sycamine tree was the tree used
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to make caskets.
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And if you hold on to unforgiveness,
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it will bury you.
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It will put you 6-feet under.
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It will totally destroy your life.
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And Jesus said, you don't need
a lot of faith to do this.
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You just need to make a decision.
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And it's not enough to think
about releasing something.
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You've gotta speak to that
spirit of unforgiveness.
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You've gotta tell it to go. And Jesus said it will obey you.
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And the word obey is a Greek word, which means
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to fall in line.
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It describes children
who obey their parents
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or soldiers who obey their captains.
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Your emotions will obey you
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if you will tell them what to do.
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Now, if you just listen to your emotions,
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they'll run you all over the place.
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But you've gotta come to a place
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where you say, you know what?
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I'm not gonna be run all
over by my emotions anymore.
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I'm gonna speak to it.
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I'm gonna tell it to obey
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and I'm gonna command
all those foul emotions
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to be cast into the sea.
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And that is what Dru did so well.
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I mean, she is like a
class in forgiveness.
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So I just wanted to lay a
little biblical foundation.
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Dru talked to us about forgiveness.
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Wow! That was so powerful.
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I can't wait to go back
and listen to that again.
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Well, you learned so much
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Right now.
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I have a book called, You Can Get Over It.
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Oh - And it's all based on these verses
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and you can't wait to, it's
one of my least popular books
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Really?
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Because maybe people don't wanna get over
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It, they don't wanna get over it.
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I have a whole series on this that is so wonderful
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and people hardly order that series
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because when they hear
it, they're like, I'm not,
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I'm not willing to do that.
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You have to make a decision.
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You do. You do.
Talk to us about it.
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Well, you know, I was able
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to forgive Michael when it was bigger than me.
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And a lot of times,
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What do you mean when you say when it was bigger than me?
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Well maybe I didn't wanna forgive
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because you feel like you're the victim.
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You know, you did this to
me and you did that to me.
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You were violated,
You know? Yeah.
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And you know, some people
like to hang onto that stuff
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for some reason.
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And to me, bitterness
is just this evil root
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that will eat you from the inside out.
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And like I had said yesterday,
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it doesn't hurt the other person.
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It hurts you if you don't forgive.
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And I actually, you know, God helped me
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and really healed my heart.
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So I not only forgave Michael,
but we became very close.
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But I went through a recent
situation where it was really,
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really difficult for me to
let it go and for forgive
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because you know, I was
outgoing on my book tour
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and I wasn't perfect in the relationship.
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Trust me, I did things
wrong and I had repented
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and I had asked this person to forgive me.
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But then that person turned around
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and was calling everybody I knew saying
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that I had done really terrible things that I had not done.
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You know, she's not who she says she is, the whole thing.
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And so I think forgiveness is something you have
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to continue to work on.
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And you know, Jesus kept
saying, do not take offense.
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And I loved how you
described the word offended
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'cause it put a whole new meaning to it.
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But forgiveness is probably one
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of the most difficult things we will deal
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with in life. Don't you feel?
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I think so - because I've always said, you know,
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God doesn't fail us, but people do.
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That's the bottom line.
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And it's really hard when
it's people that you felt
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are the very closest to you
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Who didn't do what you expected
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or they did something you
would've never expected.
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That's exactly right. Isn't, isn't
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That amazing how simple that is?
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It's so simple that it's embarrassing.
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We get caught up in it, you know?
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Wow. What was the hardest
moment for you to forgive
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With Michael?
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Oh gosh.
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I think I was so upset and angry
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because, you know,
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I just kept thinking in my mind it was
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infidelity in our marriage.
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And you know,
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the second time he wasn't
willing to give it up.
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We'll just put it that way.
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And I just, it kept going through my mind.
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You're gonna throw away your beautiful family
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that we've created together for
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basically moments of pleasure.
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That's really what it got down to.
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And it shows you that the
devil is just such a liar.
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But I believe that if I really think
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that probably - I could be wrong -
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90% of marriages usually I believe fail
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because of infidelity.
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You know, I think very
few people just walk
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away from a marriage.
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'cause you walk down the aisle
and you love that person.
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But it's such a deep betrayal that just
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literally stabs you in the heart
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because it's just such a betrayal.
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I know I've just said that twice,
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but that's really what it is.
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So I think I was just so shocked
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that he would throw
away the beautiful life
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that we had built together.
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But also he had gotten
addicted to Oxycontin
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'cause he had a terrible back
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taking serious, you know, meds, Oxycontin.
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because, you know,
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he didn't come from
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pretty much perfect
family that I came from.
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If you could ever come from
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I hope so.
I, I know they do
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because I watched them,
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and I know you're so proud of your sons
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and how they're now carrying the torch
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and they, each god's given
all of them different
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talents and abilities.
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and you know, each one
of 'em, you know, are,
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are carrying on that
torch and your ministry.
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So it's so beautiful.
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answer to what you asked me.
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that he would allow that
to destroy our family.
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Did you have to decide
again and again to forgive
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or were you able to come to a
moment when you said, no, I,
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I'm bearing this?
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I think I had to work through the process
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because the hurt kept coming up.
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stemmed hurt kept coming.
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that I made a decision
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and boom, from that moment on I did.
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So what would you say to somebody
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listening to us right now?
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Because there's a lot of people listening that have been
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through some level of betrayal.
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Yes. - Maybe by a spouse or
by a friend or by a pastor.
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Yes. - What would you
tell them they need to do?
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Well, I think it's very simple.
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A - you have to give it to God.
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'cause I think a lot of problems
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that we have today are
bigger than ourselves.
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So that's why God created us.
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Because we're not supposed to
live this life without him.
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We're just not. We were
created to be in relationship
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with God because there
are things in this life
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that are bigger than we are.
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But forgiveness is the greatest tool you'll ever bring into
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your life because it frees you.
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And if it's too hard for you to do it on your own,
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that's when you go to God because he's bigger than we are
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and say, Jesus, you've
gotta help me with this.
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I need you to help me to forgive.
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And that's what he did in my life.
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You say in your book,
which is so wonderful
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that God has a plan - A - for every life.
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Yes.
And when plan a fails,
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it doesn't mean your life is over.
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No - because God really does have a plan - B.
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Oh yes he does God talk to us
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About that.
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Well, you know, at the time
I'm thinking, oh my gosh.
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I mean my life's over.
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Like I had said, when I was
in Israel, I wasn't even sure
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that I was gonna be okay.
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And then when I had that moment with the,
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with the stone in Caesarea,
I had this epiphany
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that I'm gonna be okay.
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And God does that is he not only restores,
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but he gives us a future
and he gives us a hope.
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So what he did in the Plan A is he gave me a passion to work
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with women that have gone through divorce.
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major financial struggles
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because divorce shatters your
finances as well as a lot
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of women their whole lives:
they've been a mother,
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they've been a wife
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and you know, they maybe don't have the job skills
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to go make it on their own.
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So I just think God has such a great Plan B,
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and it may not be exactly
what you wanted it to be,
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but you can flourish
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because God will restore
what's happened in your past
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and give you, it says He
gives you a future and a hope.
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You know, I'm thinking
about a lot of people
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that are in marriage or
they're in relationships,
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it hasn't ended, but their
home is filled with strife.
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They've just got unforgiveness, they've got, you know,
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backbiting back and forth.
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Just an exchange of words
that's just so unpleasant.
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And Denise and I have a wonderful marriage.
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Yes. I love watching
the two of you together.
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You can see it. It reverberates
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from you.
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Well thank you. But, and it doesn't matter
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how good your marriage is,
sometimes you have a thought
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where you wish the other person would be
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just a little bit different.
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And I wanna give you a scripture that really
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Okay
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really helped me. And this is in Ephesians
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4:32. Are you ready?
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I'm ready - And be ye kind one to another: be, by the way,
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in Greek means be-becoming.
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You gotta work on it all the time.
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Be kind one another, tenderhearted - Okay, here it is -
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forgiving one another even as God
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for Christ's sake has forgiven you.
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Do you know the Greek
does not say forgiving?
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Are you ready for what it says?
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I'm ready.
Gracing one another.
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Oh wow.
As God for Christ's sake has
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Put grace on us,
Graced you.
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That's exact. Wow. I
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Think about all the times
that God loves me so much
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that there really are times
when he just ignores something
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stupid that I do.
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And he just graces me.
He just loves me so much.
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He just lets it go.
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Thank God.
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And in the same way that
God has graced me, I'm
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to grace Denise.
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Amen. - There's a lot of, I don't have
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to perfect everything Denise does.
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I don't even have to tell her
every time she does something
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that I don't think is right.
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I don't have to do that.
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Sometimes it's right just
to grace another person.
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Just let it - it's not such a big deal. Just let it go.
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And I think that in marriage,
whether it comes from the man
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or whether it comes from the wife, a lot
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of times we just make mountains out of molehills
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and we oughta just let it go.
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Come on. Is it really
worth that much attention?
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Is it worth that much
intensity? A lot of stuff.
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We can just let it go. We
can disgrace one another.
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And that's really helped me.
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Oh, that's - So powerful.
I'm such a recipient of grace.
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I don't know how I
can't give it to others.
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And you said in a previous
program, if you don't forgive,
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God won't forgive you.
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No. That's scary, isn't - It? It is. We need forgiveness.
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I need every day. Every
day I need forgiveness.
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Well Dru, what would you
say as we wrap up a week
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of programs and thank
you for being with me.
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I'm so honored. Thank you.
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What would you say to
people that are struggling
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with forgiveness,
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they thought they had a fairytale relationship
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and it crashed and they're
trying to pull it all together
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and figure out how to move forward.
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What would you say to them?
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Well, that God restores.
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That's all I know is God restores.
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And I will say this,
this really helped me.
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I wasn't out to write a book.
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I got a D in my first English paper in college.
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I'm not a writer. Well, you
did a good job on this book.
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Well I got,
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I received the ultimate
compliment from friends.
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They said, reading that book
felt like just sitting down
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and having coffee with you.
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I just write like I
talk. That's all I know.
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But what I will say is I journaled
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and when you journal, you can
go back and read your journals
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because I really thought in
my heart that I had forgiven.
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I was like - Oh, I totally forgave him.
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But there were still little things.
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'cause remember I said
it was kind of a process,
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'cause little things come back in your mind
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because the devil does not want you to forgive.
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Because if you forgive,
then you're restored
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and then God can use you moving forward.
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If you stay in that bitterness
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and stay in the unforgiveness,
God can't use us.
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So one of the devil's greatest tool is to lie
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to in our minds
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and you know, bring this stuff,
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regurgitate all these things back in.
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But I would journal and
when I would go back
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and read the journals, I would go - Well,
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I thought I forgave,
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but I was still just kinda trying to dig
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that knife in just a little
bit to say you were wrong
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and I was right.
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And by the way, not everybody
is right a hundred percent.
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That's just the way it is.
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But I think it's very important
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to not let the devil rob you of those lies
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and to keep bringing these things back on you.
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Because when Jesus forgives,
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he says He throws it into the den of forgetfulness.
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He chooses not to ever even go back.
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So that's what we have to do.
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When these things come back into our minds, we have to say,
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devil, I rebuke you.
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You are not going to bring
that back in my mind.
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My mind is restored. I have forgiven.
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I love this person and
I'm gonna move forward.
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That is true freedom.
It is.
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Wow. Would you please pray
for our listening audience?
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Yes. Yes,
Please.
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Thank you. Lord,
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we just thank you for this
time together where two
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or more are gathered here you are, Jesus.
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Yes Lord - in our midst, which means you're
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with everybody listening to this program.
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And Jesus, I know firsthand that forgiveness is probably one
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of the hardest things that we do in our lives
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because hurt people hurt people.
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It's just the way it is in this life.
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But God, you are our restorer.
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But you can only restore us if
we're willing to come to you
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and lay all of our hurt feelings,
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lay our problems at your altar
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and say, Jesus, I can't do this on my own.
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I need you to help me.
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I need you to give me
the forgiveness I need
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and to be able to throw it
into the den of forgetfulness,
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never to return.
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And God, you knew when you created us
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that we cannot do this stuff
on our own in this life.
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And that's when we turn to you, Jesus.
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And that is when you say, here I am,
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and you come in and you restore us.
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And we thank you for that.
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And Jesus help every single
person that's listening
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to this God to be able
to lay it at your altar.
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And we thank you that
they will be restored,
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but it's a choice.
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We have to lay it down.
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And we thank you that when
it's bigger than we are,
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that's when you do your greatest work.
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We thank you Lord in Jesus' name, Amen.
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Amen. Thank you Dru.
Thank you for having me.
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Haven't you enjoyed
having Dru Hammer on the
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show this week?
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I'd love to hear from you to know
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how it's ministered to you.
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But I'll be back in just a moment
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and I'm going to pray for you.
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This is Rick Renner and
somebody has asked the great
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question - How can I really be sure that God has forgiven me
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of my sin?
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Well, in 1 John 1:9,
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the Bible tells us if we confess our sin,
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he is faithful and he is
just to forgive us our sin
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and to cleanse us of all unrighteousness.
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So if you have confessed your sin,
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that means if you've agreed
with God concerning your sin
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and you've confessed that it's
sin, Jesus will forgive you.
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That word forgive means
to permanently send away.
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He will dismiss your sin from you.
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And the verse goes on to
say, he will cleanse you.
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And that word cleanse means
to really, really cleanse.
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He will cleanse you of
all unrighteousness.
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So according to 1 John 1:9,
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if you've done your part, if
you've confessed your sin,
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he will do his part to
forgive you of your sin
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and to cleanse you of all unrighteousness.
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It is amazing what can
happen when you're willing
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to say - Yes - to God.
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In Rick Renner's series, Inside The Hammer Story: Betrayal,
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Healing And Hope, Rick
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and his guest, Dru Hammer
unpacked Dru's riveting
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testimony full of ministry to
seemingly unreachable people,
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struggles to forgive,
betrayal, and so much more.
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Her inspiring story will remind you
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that God's hand is always
at work in your life
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and you never know when he
might place you in an unlikely
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position of influence in someone else's life -
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available in digital
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or physical formats starting at just $11.
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This 5-part series will help you
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to feel qualified wherever God puts you.
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In addition, we are offering you the book, Hammered
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by Dru Hammer.
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In this book, Dru shares intimate
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and anecdotal stories
about marrying into the Dr.
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Armand Hammer dynasty.
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From the excitement of
mingling with world leaders
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and royalty to the emotional
pain of a difficult divorce
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and how her faith was
strengthened through it all.
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You can order her faith-filled memoir for just $19.
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Don't miss this special offer: the series, Inside the Hammer
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Story: Betrayal, Healing, and Hope and the book, Hammered.
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Call the number on your screen
or scan the QR code to order.
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Call or go online today.
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Hey, this is Rick Renner,
and guess where I am.
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This is a new little studio
we have built in our Tulsa
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facilities so that when
we're in the United States,
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we can also do programs here.
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But oh how we thank God for this building.
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And from here the word of God is going
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to the ends of the earth.
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And here we're receiving
calls from people from all
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over the world.
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This facility is so very, very important
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and we're grateful to God for it,
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and we're grateful for our
partners who are helping us
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to retire the debt on this building.
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We call it the Ministry Expansion Project
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because when this debt is retired,
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it's gonna release those finances to go
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to the ends of the earth.
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And guess what? Now we
have already paid off
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85% of the debt.
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We just have a little
ways to go to wrap it up.
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And if you're already a giving
partner to help us do this,
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I just wanna say thank you to you
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for everything that you do.
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And if you've not been a
part of the Giving Team yet,
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I invite you to join the Giving Team
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to help us in the Ministry Expansion Project
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to retire the debt on this facility
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so these finances can be released
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to take the trusted teaching of the Bible
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to the ends of the earth.
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You know, today we've
wrapped up these programs
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with Dru Hammond.
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I was thinking, what if
she'd become a bitter person?
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If she had just become
imprisoned in bitterness,
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she would've never walked free
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and God could have never used her again.
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It is so very important
that we forgive for the sake
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of the other person and
also for our own sake.
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But Dru covers all of this in her book,
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which is called, Hammered.
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This book is so powerful,
and in fact, if you want it
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or the whole series from
this week, just go online
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or give us a call
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and we'll tell you how
you can order yours.
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It is just amazing.
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But Father, I thank you in the
name of Jesus for the power
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of forgiveness.
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Lord, you've graced us and
you want us to grace others.
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Help us to do that so they can walk free.
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And so each of us can be
free as well. In Jesus' name,
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Amen. Hey, I'll see you in the next program,
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but remember Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word
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of a king is, there is power."
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If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior
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and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life
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Jesus has to give you.
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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,
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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. Wash away my sin and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
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for the rest of my life -
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Amen.
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Thank you for joining Rick Renner today.
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For more information about Renner Ministries
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and product resources, visit renner.org.
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This program was made possible by the giving
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of the God called Partners of Renner Ministries.