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Let's join Rick Renner.
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Welcome to today's program.
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This is the 4th day of us being
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with our friend, Dru Hammer.
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Welcome back to my program.
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Thank you. So happy to be here.
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Thank you for being here. And thank you
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for writing this amazing book called, Hammered.
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Thank you. - Now, Dru's son, she's got 2,
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I wanna mention both of them because they're both important.
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One is Victor and the other is Armie.
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But Armie is more well known because he is Armie Hammer,
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he is the movie star.
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And I wanna read you what Armie wrote
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on the back of this book.
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Are you ready for this? A lot
of people start writing books.
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Rarely do they finish.
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Now you'll see exactly how stubborn and dedicated my mom is
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and see why she finished.
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Proud of you, Mama. And to the reader,
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I've been listening to this stuff my whole life.
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Now it's your turn. I think that is hilarious.
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He's a funny kid. He really is.
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Well, this is, and that's
apropos, let me tell you.
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Well, this is a great book, Dru.
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Thank you. - I appreciate
that. Thank you for writing.
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You're a gifted writer.
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Thank - You. And if it's hard for you
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to read a biography, this will
not be hard for you to read.
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I mean, you will just zip through it.
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And every page is filled
with amazing stories.
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And they're real. It's all real.
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And it will really help you get
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through rough periods in your life.
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And that's what we're
gonna talk about today.
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Because up until now we've
been talking about really a
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fairytale life,
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Right?
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I mean, you stepped from
Tulsa, Oklahoma into a world
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that is almost imaginary.
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Exactly. - But then it all came crashing down.
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Yes it did. - But the Bible tells us in Acts 16:
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31 - Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ
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and thou shall be saved and thy house.
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Amen.
Household salvation.
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You can stake your claim on it
and believe that your spouse
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and your kids are gonna come to Christ.
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But Dru, tell us that part of your story,
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because when I read this
book, I kept thinking,
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this is gonna help so many people who have been
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through a failed marriage.
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Praise The Lord. - It's just filled with healing.
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So please talk to us about it.
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Well, so I found out first
about infidelities in our
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marriage, 7-years into it.
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And like I talked about yesterday, that's
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how I could relate, you know, to,
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And Michael was a Christian.
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Oh yes. I would've, where I come from, my stalk,
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you don't marry someone, you
don't be unequally yoked.
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So he not only came to the Lord,
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but he was filled with
the Holy Spirit, even
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before we walked down the aisle.
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But it was great because
he had a grandmother,
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Olga Von Root, who was a baroness.
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She was related to the Czars.
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And she was a very famous theater star.
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to the theater when he was here in the early 20's
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and saw her on the stage and said, I'm gonna marry her.
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She was absolutely beautiful.
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And she was a Russian Orthodox.
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And Michael, when I started sharing Christ
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with him, the 1st time we went to dinner,
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the very first night, you know,
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of course I start talking about Jesus.
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Because if it's your number one priority,
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it should come out every
time you have a discussion.
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Right? You and I mean,
you don't have discussions
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with people where Jesus
does not come through.
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So, but what happened was he was
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very broken.
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He was abused as a child,
emotionally, physically,
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even sexually.
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And Denise
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and I had to talk about this;
when you raised Pentecostal,
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like you and I were, you know,
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we didn't know anything about
going to Christian therapists
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or getting counseling.
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I just always thought if
you had problems, you go
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to church and you pray about it.
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That's just what we did growing up.
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But he had deep stemmed problems that we never dealt with.
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And it was really never even discussed.
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So 7-years in, I found out
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that there were infidelities in the family,
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I mean in our marriage.
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And I was really crushed
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because the way we were
raised, you marry that person,
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you're loyal to that person,
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you raise your children together,
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you raise your grandchildren together,
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you grow old together.
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And I was just so heartbroken.
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But he was repented then.
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And he came to me and he
said, I've done wrong.
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I don't wanna lose my family.
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He was sobbing and I forgave him.
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And I made a conscious decision: if you continue bringing it
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up, because you know when something happens
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and then you have an argument someday,
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well then it's just easy
just to put those digs in.
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Yes. But you did that to me - that kind of thing.
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And I made a conscious decision that I was not ever going
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to mention it again. And I forgave
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him.
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So, so when you forgave, you let it go?
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I did, I did.
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But he was also repented as well.
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But when it happened again 19 years later,
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there didn't seem to be repentance.
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So we went through a divorce 15 years ago
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and I was really heartbroken
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because again, I just thought,
when you walk down the aisle,
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you're going to be married
the rest of your life.
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And there's never been a
divorce in my family before.
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So I was the only one
that has been divorced.
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And I was really heartbroken.
But I went to a luncheon.
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I was up in Napa Valley
and I went to a luncheon
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and I was seated next to this woman
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and she was venomous
about her former husband.
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You know - what a terrible person he was.
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And he ran off with my best friend
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and now he's married to her.
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And the way she talked, I thought, oh wow,
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that must have just happened recently.
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So I said, how long ago did that happen?
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And she said, 10 years ago. And I was astounded.
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I was like, you're
carrying that bitterness
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and that unforgiveness
for this many years.
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And by the way, her
bitterness didn't hurt him.
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He had moved on. It hurts
you when you carry that.
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And I made a conscious decision
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because I was still going
through divorce at that time.
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And I said, God, I don't wanna
ever live my life like that.
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And besides the scripture is very black
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and white when it says, if
we can't forgive others,
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Jesus can't forgive us.
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Well Rick, I need forgiveness
every day of my life. Right?
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And I just made a conscious decision - God.
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And here's what I love.
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God comes in
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and forgives us when it's bigger than we are.
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And at that time, because I was so crushed
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and I was still going through the divorce
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and I wasn't being treated with respect
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During the divorce, oh, you
went through a divorce, very
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rough time. Divorce.
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I went through a very rough time.
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But it's interesting
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because every divorced woman
that I've talked to, we all go
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through the same thing
because it's the same spirit.
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If Satan can destroy a family unit,
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if he can destroy a marriage,
he knows there's ramifications
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through generations.
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But thankfully we can break those curses,
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those generational curses.
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And that's what God's done
in my family, thank God.
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But I've decided
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that I needed forgiveness
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and I didn't wanna carry that bitterness,
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but it was too big for me at the time
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because I was still so hurt
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and I was not being treated well
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and bank accounts were being closed.
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And he left me penniless and
you know, yada yada yada.
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I don't even talk about it
anymore because it's done
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and it's, you know, it's all forgiven.
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But it was too big for me.
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So I cried out to God
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and I said, God, I need
you to come help me
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because this is too big for me.
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And he did. All we have to do is ask
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because God is faithful.
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So he allowed me to not only forgive,
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but we became such good friends that we would spend all
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of our holidays with the children and the grandchildren.
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And when he was dying from glioblastoma,
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Which is a form of brain cancer,
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Yes it is.
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He had remarried.
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But I would go and see him in the hospital
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and when he was really ill
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and I would crawl up in bed with him
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and I would put my arms around him
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and I would pray over him.
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And I would praise God for the
years that God gave me with
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that wonderful man
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and the children that we were
privileged to raise together.
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And I would sing worship songs to him
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and I would pray in the
Holy Spirit over him.
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And one time he said, Dru, I see angels.
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So we really had beautiful times
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that we would've missed
if I hadn't allowed God
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to come into my heart and
truly help me forgive.
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So forgiveness is a very,
very powerful tool, huh?
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Being a Hammer, pardon the pun.
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But I just feel sorry for the
people who don't allow God
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to help them do that.
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Because you miss out on so much.
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And again, it, it hurts you.
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It doesn't hurt the other person.
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Now Dru, when you went
through your divorce,
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not only did you lose your spouse
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Yes.
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But you were separated
from that part of the family.
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Yes. - And I'm certain that to some degree
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that became a part of your identity.
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I mean, you were now a Hammer
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and now you were kind of on the outside.
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Did you ever, did you ever have a moment when it was really
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hard for you to let it go
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and you were tempted to pick it up
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again and again and again?
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How, how did you deal
with that temptation?
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You know, it's interesting
you asked me that
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because being a Hammer, if you will,
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was never my identity.
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That's good. - And my identity was always in the Lord.
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So I didn't care about that part.
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I just wanted my husband back.
I just wanted my family back.
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And it, you know, it
wasn't going to happen.
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And, and here's what's interesting is
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God answers prayers.
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And I wanted my family back.
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I loved my husband and
I missed our family.
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'cause when you get a divorce,
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you lose the whole family unit, you know,
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the holidays.
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And I wanted that back
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and I really grieved that loss.
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I didn't grieve not being, you know, that side
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of a Hammer family anymore
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because I didn't really care about that.
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That was really never my identity.
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But I grieved the loss of my family.
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But God had such a plan in that as well,
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because I'm not sure I would've ever really had the heart
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that I have for women who
have been through divorce,
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who have devastated by that.
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And mine could have been so much worse
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because I minister with women
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that literally can't buy a carton of eggs.
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You know, they never had a job skill
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because their identity was being a mother and being a wife.
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And that was taken away from them.
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And then the finances
was taken away from them.
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And God gave me such a heart
for those women that now I get
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to minister to them.
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What do you do with women?
Well I, for example,
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I have entities in churches, in churches,
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and it's called the Hammered Heart Fund.
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And I set it up with
churches around the country
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that I have relationships
with and I give money to it.
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And they'll buy tires for the women
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because I can't give individually
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'cause I'm a 501_C3.
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So I give to churches
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and other ministries
that help these women.
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And then they buy 'em new tires.
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If their tires are bald,
they'll help 'em, you know,
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with their electric payments.
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If they can't pay their
bills, they help 'em buy food,
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they give them grocery cards.
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And I'll never forget the
first time I did that,
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it was in my church in Dallas
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and I said, I wanna make sure
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that every single woman in
this church has a Christmas
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because there are a lot of single women
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that can't even buy Christmas
gifts for their children.
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And it broke my heart
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'cause I never had to
deal with that part of it.
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And I'll never forget being at church
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and I said, I don't know
how you're gonna do it,
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but I wanna make sure that
each mother in the church
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and I went to a, you
know, pretty large church,
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I wanna make sure these single
women get a hundred dollars
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for themselves because sometimes they can't even afford
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to buy, you know, necessities for themselves.
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They get a hundred dollars per
child to buy Christmas gifts
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and a hundred dollars for groceries
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to buy a Christmas dinner.
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And I didn't know how they were gonna do it,
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but my pastor called all the single women
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and single men, there's
actually single men like
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that in that situation.
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He said, come forward
because I wanna pray for you.
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So all these women came forward
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and he took the money I gave him
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and he cashed it into a hundreds.
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And he walked down the line
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and said, how many children do you have?
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And he gave him a hundred
dollars for each child,
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a hundred dollars for them, and a hundred
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dollars for Christmas dinner.
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And I watched the faces,
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I can't even get through without crying.
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I saw them turn around
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and it was like they had won the lottery
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'cause they could give
their children a Christmas.
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And I remember sitting
in the, in the church
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and I thought, God, if it
wasn't for the grace of God,
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I would be one of those women up there.
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But I get to be sitting
here and I get to bless him.
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I mean, bless them, not because of anything I've done, but
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because you chose to bless me.
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And it really changed me.
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Hmm. - And I'm not sure
I would've had that heart
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for the single women if I hadn't have been
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through my divorce.
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So God really takes ashes and turns it to beauty.
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Can you tell me the story about when you were
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with Kathy Lee?
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Yes - Walking around Caesarea
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Israel.
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Yes. And about the rock that you found.
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Well, after my divorce,
we've been dear friends
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for I don't know how many years -
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You and Kathy Lee?
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Yes. For probably 23 years.
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And she called me and said, when your divorce is finalized,
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we're going to Israel.
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So she and another friend, Emily Weir, put a trip
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to Israel together, not just for me,
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but it just happened that I
could go after my divorce.
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And I was really broken, Rick.
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I was walking around
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and I didn't realize
how broken I really was
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because I had just come out of the divorce
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and I was like, Stepford wife. Do you remember that movie?
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I do. They're like robots.
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And you just, you go
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through the motions, but you're not there.
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And I'm sitting there in Israel and I'd never been before.
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And you always dream of going to Israel
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and going to, you know, the pool of Bethesda, whatever,
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you know, walking where Jesus walked
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and where the Sea of Galilee.
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And you know, you just read these stories,
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but they come alive when you're there.
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But because I was so broken, I couldn't,
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it didn't do anything for me.
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I was, I didn't cry.
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I kept thinking it would
be one of those trips
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where you just ball
through the whole thing.
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And I didn't even realize how broken I was
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until I was there.
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And I just didn't feel anything.
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And I think I had just
shut down my emotions
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as a self mechanism or
self-defense, if you will.
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And finally about the 4th
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or 5th day, I'm standing in Caesarea
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where Paul stood trial for preaching the gospel,
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before King Herod.
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And I'm standing there and
they're telling us the story.
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And again, I'm just standing
there not feeling anything,
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shut my emotions down.
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And I look down and I
see this little stone,
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and it's in a shape of a heart,
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but it isn't a perfect heart.
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It's a heart. And it looked like a jeweler had hammered it.
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And that's where I got the name of my book is Hammered
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because every heart has been hammered,
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but God is faithful if we're
willing to turn to him.
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So I picked the stone
up and I'm holding it
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and all a sudden the Holy Spirit just
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enveloped me.
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And it felt like warm
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olive oil was being poured down my body.
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And as I'm holding this
stone, God spoke to me
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through his scripture.
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And that's, you know,
prophetic words are right
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because it always has to
come back to the scripture.
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But I'm holding this hammered heart.
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And God said, I'm going to
take your heart of stone
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And I'm going to make it into flesh
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and I'm going to heal your heart.
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And I just began bawling,
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I mean uncontrollably.
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And it wasn't even a sadness,
it was a cry where I'm like,
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I'm gonna be okay.
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And before that, I wasn't
sure I was gonna be okay
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because I was married 27
years and my family was,
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besides my relationship with the Lord,
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my family was everything to me.
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And at that moment I thought, Jesus,
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you're my husband and I'm gonna be okay.
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I'm gonna make it. And I put
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that stone in my pocket
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and a couple days later,
my younger son, Victor,
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was graduating from Pepperdine.
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So I put the little stone on my little end
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table and the next day
I am out renting errands
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and I get a flat tire.
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So I say to Julie, who
worked for me, I said, well,
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LA traffic is like Moscow traffic.
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And I said, I'm not waiting for AAA,
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it's like five o'clock
traffic in Beverly Hills.
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We're gonna clump, clump this
baby into the dealership.
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So she's like, no, you're
gonna ruin your rim.
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And I go, we're gonna clump
this baby into the dealership.
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We drive it in. In other
words, I was so spoiled
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that I didn't have to
worry about a new tire.
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Right. We get to the dealership,
they give you a cappuccino
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and I'm sitting there
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and that same Holy Spirit came
over me, the same feeling of
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that warm oil.
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And the Lord spoke to me
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and he said, I gave you
that heart for a reason.
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When you get a flat tire,
it's an inconvenience.
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There are millions of women in America
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and who knows how many million in the world
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that if they get a flat
tire, it's catastrophic.
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They can't get to work, they can't get their kids to school,
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they can't afford a new tire.
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And he goes, I gave that
to you for a reason.
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And I thought, oh my gosh.
I mean, I was like, okay.
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So I started praying about
it. My sister's a jeweler.
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I had it cast in Diamond
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not diamond - didn't have it cast in diamond.
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I had it cast in gold and silver.
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And then I do Parvae Diamond ones.
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And I went to my first event for Child Tell,
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and they asked me to speak and I got up
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and gave a few minutes of my story about Cesarea.
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And I said, these are
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cast from the original
stone that God gave me.
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And every dime that that I make off
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of this is going back into Child Help.
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And I auctioned off these
pave diamond hammered hearts.
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Do you know seven of 'em
sold it got in a bidding war
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and they sold for $50,000.
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Oh
My goodness. A piece
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One night it, they
raised $350,000 for that.
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Wow. That is so wonderful.
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That's, God, I'm,
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I'm not smart enough to come up with stuff
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Like that. What did
you feel like when you,
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It's all God, when you heard
Those numbers coming in.
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Well, I just thought,
God, you are unstoppable.
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So my point is, is as broken as I was,
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not only did God heal me, but
he really turned it around.
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And that's what I do now.
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And now I have the foundation
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and I have Druville where I sell products
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and all of it goes into my foundation.
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And I have the privilege
of helping these women.
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It's amazing. I think your mother and daddy are in heaven.
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By the way, they may be aware
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that we're filming this program right now.
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They sure may be.
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But I can just hear
them saying, go for it.
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Go for
It. Oh
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Right.
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My dad told us that our whole lives
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Dru you go change the world for Jesus.
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Well you are doing it.
I sure pray so.
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But Dru, your testimony
about being healed
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is so powerful.
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And if it's okay with you, I want
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to invite you to come back again.
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One more program tomorrow.
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I would love it.
And I, I want you
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to talk some more about forgiveness
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because forgiveness is really
hard for so many people to do.
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Right. - And the word forgive -
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I'm gonna give a Greek word: the Greek word aphiemi -
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I wouldn't expect nothing less -
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It means to let it go.
Yes.
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That's a literal translation
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of the word forgiveness, let it go.
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Right - With no right to
ever reach over, pick it up,
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retrieve it, and ever bring it up again.
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Love that.
It's really hard for people
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to do, but you did it.
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I did because I went, I sought the Lord
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Well when we come back
tomorrow, can we go there?
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Yes, would love to.
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Don't miss tomorrow. It's gonna be good.
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And you know, maybe you
haven't been through divorce,
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but you've been through some other issue
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where you've really had
a hard time forgiving
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and letting it go.
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You need to do it for your sake - it's for you.
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What you feel is not hurting the other person,
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it's hurting you.
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So when we come back tomorrow, that's
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where we're going to pick up.
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But I'll be back in just a moment and I'm going to pray for
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you.
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It is amazing what can
happen when you're willing
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to say - Yes to God.
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In Rick Renner series, Inside The Hammer Story:
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Betrayal, Healing, and Hope,
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Rick and his guest, Dru Hammer,
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unpack Dru's riveting testimony full of ministry
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to seemingly unreachable people, struggles to forgive,
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betrayal, and so much more.
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Her inspiring story will remind you
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that God's hand is always
at work in your life
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and you never know when he
might place you in an unlikely
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position of influence in someone else's life -
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available in digital
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or physical formats starting at just $11.
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This 5-part series will help you
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to feel qualified wherever God puts you.
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In addition, we are offering you the book
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Hammered, by Dru Hammer.
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In this book, Dru shares intimate
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and anecdotal stories
about marrying into the Dr.
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Armand Hammer dynasty.
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From the excitement of mingling with world leaders
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and royalty to the emotional
pain of a difficult divorce
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and how her faith was
strengthened through it all.
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You can order her faith-filled
memoir for just $19.
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Don't miss this special offer:
the series, Inside the Hammer
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Story: Betrayal, Healing And Hope - and the book, Hammered.
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Call the number on your screen
or scan the QR code to order.
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Call or go online today.
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Hey, this is Rick Renner,
and guess where I am.
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This is a new little studio
we have built in our Tulsa
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facilities so that when
we're in the United States,
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we can also do programs here.
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But - Oh - how we thank God for this building.
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And from here the word of God is going
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to the ends of the earth.
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And here we're receiving
calls from people from all
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over the world.
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This facility is so very, very important
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and we're grateful to God for it
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and we're grateful for our
partners who are helping us
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to retire the debt on this building.
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We call it the Ministry Expansion Project -
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because when this debt is retired,
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it's gonna release those finances to go
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to the ends of the earth.
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And guess what? Now we
have already paid off
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85% of the debt.
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We just have a little
ways to go to wrap it up.
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And if you're already a giving
partner to help us do this,
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I just wanna say thank you to you
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for everything that you do.
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And if you've not been a
part of the Giving Team yet,
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I invite you to join the Giving Team
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to help us in the Ministry Expansion Project
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to retire the debt on this facility
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so these finances can be released
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to take the trusted teaching of the Bible
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to the ends of the earth.
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Wow! We have heard amazing things today from
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Dru Hammer.
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And by the way, if you'd like
to have this whole series,
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or if you would like to have Dru's book,
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which is called, Hammered, it is really wonderful.
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Just go online or give us a call.
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We'll tell you how you can get the series
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or how you can order the book.
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But my friends, what we've heard today is really powerful.
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And when Plan A seems to fail, God always has Plan B.
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And that's what we heard from Dru's amazing
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testimony today.
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And my friends, God has a redeemable plan
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for you as well.
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And if you'd like us
to pray with you about
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how you can find it, please call us so we can pray with you.
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But when we come back
tomorrow, Dru's gonna discuss
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with us the power of forgiveness.
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It's really going to set you free.
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So don't miss tomorrow's episode.
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Father, we thank you in the
name of Jesus for the plan
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of redemption you have
for each one of our lives.
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In Jesus name. Amen.
I'll see you tomorrow.
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If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior
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and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life
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Jesus has to give you.
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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,
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I repent of my sin and
receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. Wash away my sin and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
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for the rest of my life - Amen.
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Renner Ministries is proclaiming the gospel
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of Jesus Christ through
every available media avenue
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to the uttermost parts of the earth.
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Discover the many ways you can
help us make a difference in
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lives around the world
with the word of God.
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We invite you to partner with
us in teaching, strengthening
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and rescuing lives for the glory of God.
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Together we can make a difference
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that will last throughout eternity.
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This program was made possible by the giving
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of the God called Partners of Renner Ministries.