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world. Let's join
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Rick Renner.
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Welcome to today's program, my friends,
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I am having an absolute blast just waiting
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for the program to begin talking with my guest, Dru Hammer.
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Dru, thank you for being here.
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Thank you for having
me. We've had so much fun.
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Two Tulsa kids.
Yes.
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And God let us away from
our world into other worlds.
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Right? He sure did.
Thank you for being here.
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I'm so happy to be here.
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Well if you saw yesterday's
program, we just began
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with a little history about Armand Hammer.
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Her name is Dru Hammer. She has two sons.
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One is named Victor and the other is named, Armie.
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Maybe you've seen Armie Hammer
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or you've seen some of his movies.
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Armie Hammer, the movie star, those are her kids.
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But Dru is a Tulsa girl
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and it is quite amazing what happens
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to your life if you're
willing to say yes to God.
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Amen. - And her story in this book called, Hammered,
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is riveting.
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I just read it on an airplane cover
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to cover in a single setting.
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And I'm not one that
really reads biographies.
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I could not put this book down.
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Oh, I'm so honored.
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Thank you. It is amazing
what is in this book.
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It's a God story for sure. It
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It's a God story's and
I want you to have it
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about this by going online
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or by giving us a call.
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And please, when you reach out to us,
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would you let us know how to pray for you.
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We're praying people
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and praying for you is one
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of the biggest parts of our ministry.
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We want the phone to ring
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or your email to show up in the inbox.
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And the moment we hear from
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to begin to pray for you.
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But today, Dru
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and I are gonna pick up on
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where we left off yesterday.
Alright Dru, you ready?
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I'm ready. All right. Yesterday you were telling us
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Yes
That Armand invited you
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that into his private library.
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Now remind us again, who is Armand Hammer?
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Well, he was an industrialist.
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He started trade with Russia in the 1920s
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and then he started Occidental
Petroleum Oil Company.
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And when he bought it,
it had three employees
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and he bought it for $150,000.
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So I guess you could
say the rest is history.
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And it became one of the
biggest oil companies ever.
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Yes,
Yes. That was just
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Amazing.
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Art collector, all sorts of things.
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Actually there's the
Hammer Museum in Los Angeles.
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Yes, that's right.
It's, it is just amazing.
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And I'm particularly
interested in this story
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because he lived here and he in the 20's.
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Right. - And he left really when Stalin
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consolidated his power.
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Yes. - And you asked him why did he leave at
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that time? What did he tell you?
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Well, what he told me is
that Stalin was not willing
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to work with him like Lenin was.
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Because Lenin, you know,
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the revolution had just happened when Lenin came to power
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as everyone knows.
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And he needed to help the people
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'cause the country was in such turmoil
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and they were starving basically.
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And that's when Armand was
able to trade bumper crops
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of a million bushels of wheat and
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and start the trade with Russia.
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And Stalin, in exchange, was not willing
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to work with Armand.
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And it was interesting because
Gorbachev even said one time
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And Gorbachev said it to you.
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Yes. Well in a small group is he said there
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was jealousy
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because at the time, Armand
was known as the American
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who saved the Russian people.
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And I don't think Stalin
wanted to share his glory
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with anyone else, if you will.
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You know, Armand helped to build the infrastructure in the
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early part of the Soviet Union.
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Yes. - He helped with the railroads, he helped
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with all kinds of industries and pencils.
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I know that was the big thing because Lenin came to him
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and said, you've done so much for our country.
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I will give you any concession that you want.
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And this is why I believe God blessed Armand.
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Because even though he was
the ultimate industrialist
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and capitalist, he still
looked out for the people.
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So he went back to Lenin, he did a study
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and he said, your school
children are not able to read
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or write because they can't afford pencils.
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They did not manufacture pencils in Russia
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and it was too expensive
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Or I'm not even sure they
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So he said I would like
the pencil concession.
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So he went to France
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and learned the pencil - the pencil business
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and hired away the president
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of the largest pencil factory,
brought the machinery over
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and started manufacturing pencils
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and made it affordable
for school children.
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And from Armand's office
downtown Moscow, he did a deal
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with Ford.
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Yes he did. Henry Ford. Yes, he did.
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To begin bringing cars and
the production of tractors.
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Right. And trucks. Right.
That that is just amazing.
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I know - I don't know if you knew this,
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but Lennon's wife,
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her name was Krupskaya. How would you like to be named
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Krupskaya - I know, right.
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She was placed in charge of education.
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I did not know that.
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So the very fact that
there were no pencils
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and I read, there was also no paper
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that would've really had an appeal to Lennon
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because of his wife.
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Yes. - And God really used Armand
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and Armand was not a Christian.
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Was he even a believer in God?
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I do believe that he believed in God.
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But it definitely wasn't a priority.
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But it became a priority.
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Tell us about that. Yes. What happened at the end of his
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Life? This is the best part
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and this is why as we look at our lives,
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here you are in Russia
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and God plucked me into the Hammer family.
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So I just started inviting Armand over
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for Sunday supper as we call 'em from Oklahoma.
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And I would just very casually minister the gospel to him.
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But I would do it from, you know, Jewish roots.
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'cause I would tell him how in Isaiah 53
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and all these chapters in the Old Testament,
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how Jesus fulfilled over 300,
you know, prophetic words
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of the coming Messiah.
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And Jesus fulfilled
every single one of them.
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So I would just piece it, you
know, a little bit at a time.
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And I learned to read him
when to talk to him about it.
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And then you have to learn when to stop.
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So sometimes you think, gosh,
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I'm really not making a difference
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'cause I could only get a little bit in.
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But God's word never returns void.
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So I, we bought him a Bible
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and we started marking
all the old prophecies in
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the Old Testament.
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And I started talking to
him about Jesus became
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that sacrificial lamb
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'cause that's one thing that
I always ask Jewish people.
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Well God always required a blood sacrifice
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and you're not going
in your backyard today
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and sacrificing a lamb.
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So what do you do as
the atonement for sin?
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And they always say, we
have the 24 hour fast.
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Is it Yon Kippur when they do that?
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And I said, yes, but God always required a blood atonement.
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And that's how when I would
always open the door to that
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and say, that's why Jesus
is called the Lamb of God.
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He became that perfect sacrificial lamb.
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So I said that to Armand.
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And you know, through several
years I would just speak
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to him very briefly about those things.
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because when his wife died, Francis,
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they were married over 30 years
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and she went everywhere with him.
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And he called
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and he said, Dru, you have a peace that I don't have.
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'cause he was so devastated
when his wife died
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and he said, you have
something I don't have.
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And I said, well Armand,
the only thing I have
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that you don't have is I
have, Jesus as my Messiah
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and he is our peace.
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And my dad had always
been ministering to him.
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And it's so interesting
because my dad was very bold
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and we'll get to my parents.
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'cause you knew my parents very well and they even came over
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and ministered here, 32 years ago I believe.
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but I was also very careful about it.
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So I said, well Armand, Jesus is my peace
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and Jesus is my Messiah.
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And he loved my dad too.
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And he would always invite
my parents to all the events,
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his big black tie events
at his birthday parties.
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He always wanted my parents there.
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So Armand knew that there was something in our lives
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that we had that he did not have.
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And that just shows you, you can accomplish the whole world.
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That verse - What does it prophet man do
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to accomplish the whole world and lose your soul?
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And Armand had pretty much accomplished everything you can
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accomplish in the world's eyes.
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But he still didn't have that peace.
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So he said to me, will you call your father
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and ask him to fly out because
I need what you all have.
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And isn't God astounding?
It's amazing. It's amazing.
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It's absolutely -
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and I believe that's where he leaves the 99 for the one.
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Because I believe God
kept him alive for that
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because he was 92 years old at the time.
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And when he prayed
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and accepted Jesus as his Messiah,
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he died within six months.
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It's like God literally kept him alive for
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that.
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And your dad also led his brother, Victor to Christ.
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Yes he did. Yes he did.
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Victor had had a stroke and he
was living in LA in a hotel.
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And my dad said, well
Victor, when you're ready
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to accept Jesus, I'm coming
over to visit with you.
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And so Armand Hammer came to Christ.
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Yes, he did.
That is just amazing.
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Well, and it's really
a great story because
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after he did that,
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after he prayed - God gave him a vision
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and he began weeping after he
invited Jesus into his life.
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And my dad said, Armand, what happened?
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'cause my dad knew he had
had a very deep experience.
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And Armand said, God gave me a vision.
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He said, I saw this golden staircase.
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And Francis, his wife, who was a believer
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and Jesus were standing
at the top of the stairs.
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And I was halfway up, I was walking up
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and I was halfway there and he died within six months.
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Wow. - So about a week later he calls me
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and he says, Hey Dru, you know that book
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that your dad gave me by Clive?
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And I said, Clive, I said, I'm
sorry, I don't know a Clive,
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I don't know what book
you're talking about.
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He goes, yes you do.
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You, you were, you've talked
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He said, you know Clive.
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And I said, Armand, I
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And he goes - CS Lewis: the book Mere Christianity.
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I said, Clive, he said, oh
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He said, we used to get
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was a professor there.
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And I'm like, now you tell me.
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Could you even believe that? I
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Never even knew his name was Clive.
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Right. Who would know that?
CS Lewis.
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That's right. And he said, will you get me a dozen copies?
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I'd like to give them out to all of my Rabbi friends.
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And I'm like, you've gotta be kidding.
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Now he's an evangelist. Is God amazing?
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And that takes guts to do that.
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Well you know, as you're talking,
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I'm thinking about the centurion
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that we read about in Acts 10.
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Yes. Cornelius.
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Yeah. Yes. And the Bible says his
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prayers and his alms.
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Yes. And his alms,
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came up before God and God never
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forgot. That's right.
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And even though Armand was not a believer all those
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years, he was a giver.
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He was a giver.
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so, he gave away most
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of his money before he died.
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He gave his art collection to the museum.
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And you know, he had so many all his,
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his whole life, he was a giver
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And God never forgot.
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No. And that was that
you will be blessed
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to be a blessing.
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And that's the beauty of it.
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Alright Dru, I gotta
ask you a question.
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Okay - Alright.
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So you married into the Hammer dynasty,
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it's really what it was.
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Yes. - A Tulsa girl stepping into a really,
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really big world.
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Very different than anything you knew.
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And you're flying around the world on Armand's Private
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727.
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Oh yes. That was like a
home, had a dining room,
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bedroom, living room.
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And in the next program,
we're gonna talk about some
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of the people that you
met back in those years.
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But you did not start up in that kind of
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luxurious environment.
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Oh, you are from Tulsa. Right.
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And I gotta begin with a Bible verse.
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'cause I always do the
Bible in this program.
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Please. - And the Bible says in Proverbs 22:6,
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and you need to claim this
for your own children.
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It says - Train up a child in the way he should go
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and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
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Well Dru, I said to her yesterday,
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I believe is one of the
most intentional people
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I've ever met in my life.
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She is so intentional on why she is here,
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what she's supposed to do.
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Just yesterday we had a
private meeting with someone
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so high in Russia,
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I can't even tell you who it was.
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Within minutes she was
sharing the gospel with him.
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Well he was already a
very serious believer.
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But I watched her just
intentionally make a way
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to step forward to make sure
this man knew the gospel.
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It is amazing. But it really goes back
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to the impact of your
mother and your daddy.
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My roots and Right. And your
parents were friends with us.
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Yes.
And your mother
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and daddy were partners with our ministry.
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And here you said your daddy would be
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so thrilled if he knew this.
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I know. Isn't it beautiful?
I thought about that.
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The whole plane right
here. I thought, Wow!
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And I am who I am because of my parents
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'cause I think my dad was the most intentional person alive.
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Well your dad was a Tulsa banker.
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Yes.
In fact, he owned one
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of the biggest banks downtown Tulsa.
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Well partially he didn't solely own it, but yes, a group.
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And he owned multiple banks.
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And I when I was a teenager.
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So Dru, you were a teenager too.
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We're the same age.
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Big article comes out in the Tulsa world
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or Tulsa Tribune - Local Banker Becomes Healing
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Evangelist.
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I couldn't believe it. It
was such news in Tulsa.
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Right. - And he had rented
the Civic Center downtown
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Right.
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On a Sunday afternoon
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to hold his first big healing meeting.
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And I hightailed it to
that service. I was there.
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Isn't that amazing when Doug Mobley preached
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in that big meeting.
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How amazing is that?
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That we were, and you were
there of course. Right.
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But it was kind of funny
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because when he 1st got called into the healing ministry,
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even being from the buckle
of the Bible belt, you know,
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people thought we were crazy
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and you know, I was, you
know, kind of the it girl.
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I mean I hate to say that
it sounds so obnoxious,
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but you know, after that no
one would even talk to me.
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I mean I had no friends after that.
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Because your dad had said he was
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gonna be healing evangelist.
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Yeah. 'cause you know, it's
one thing to be Billy Graham
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and preach the gospel,
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but when you go into healing, evangelism
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and all the gifts of the Holy Spirit,
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that can be really freaky to people.
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But I watched my parents
and when you see thousands
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and thousands of people
being miraculously healed
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through your parents' ministry,
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there's just no way you can turn back.
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You know, your dad 1st came with your mother, Donna
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and they came to Riga.
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Yes. -Back in the years when we were in Riga
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and Denise was the worship leader
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that is the single longest service we have
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ever held anywhere in the world.
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I believe it was 7-hours long.
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Yes.
And Denise was leading,
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she kept repeating the same
songs over and over and over.
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And the people were so
excited about being healed
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that they all went through the line.
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Then they went through the line again
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and they went through the line again.
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Wow. And your dad, he didn't stop until they
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stopped.
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No, he was not gonna stop.
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And speaking of being
intentional, he would run,
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we would run together, he we'd run,
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he'd run five miles every day
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and lift weights when really
very few people lifted weights
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unless you were like a
bodybuilder or something.
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And he said, honey, I have
to keep my body strong
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for these healing lines
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because he would stand there for hours and hours doing that.
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And that's physically draining.
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Well then years later he
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and your mother also came to Moscow.
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Right.
And it was a repeat.
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I mean we had a long, long service
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and your dad would not stop praying
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until the people stopped coming.
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No way. He said, God sent me
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and I'm gonna complete this job.
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That's true. And I
remember my dad coming home
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after ministering in Riga and Moscow.
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And he said to to me, he said - You know Dru,
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if Americans were as open
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as the Russian people are,
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he said we would be a true
Christian nation today.
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Well Dru, I have a question for you.
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Yes.
What would you say to moms
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and dads who have kids
that were raised right,
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but they've gone away.
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Can they really believe this verse?
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Well that they're gonna come back? Well,
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I believe I'm the poster child of that
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because I've had a son
that has questioned God
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and gone off on his own.
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And I would say maybe
rebelled against, you know,
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I have a son that was molested
at 14 by his youth pastor.
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And after that happened, he denounced,
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you know, he blamed God.
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And that's easy to do when you're a child.
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And especially when it's a person in authority in a church.
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And you know, I've always
said people will fail us,
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but God will never fail us.
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But it's been a journey.
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And I wasn't very cool
about it, to be honest.
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'cause my friends are like,
he knows how you believe.
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Just let it go. And I go, absolutely not.
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Here's what I read. Eli, the priest was struck dead
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for not holding his grown
children accountable.
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So I believe you can't hold back.
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You can never stop praying.
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And if that's God's word and that's his promise, you
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and I talked about this, we are very black and white people.
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And if God says it, I'm standing on it.
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And I'm gonna take that
as God's promise to me.
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So even when you aren't seeing
any improvement, you have
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to stand on the word.
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And I was tough about it.
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I said, I'm not gonna call you
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and say, oh, I'm just
thinking positive thoughts.
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Let's throw it out to the universe.
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Well that's a lie from the pit of hell.
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And I would tell my sons,
I am praying for you.
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I am claiming that you will
not only know Jesus personally
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as your Lord and Savior,
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but you will be a light to the world for Jesus.
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Well I think it's amazing
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that you've got such a great relationship
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with both of your boys.
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I do. It's really a blessing.
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They, they definitely have put up with me
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for a lot of years actually.
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But they're coming around.
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They write hysterical things on the back
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Of the book.
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No they they do. They do. They're funny.
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So they
Are really funny. It's
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A blessing.
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But you know, it really is a
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promise of God. Yes. It's that if you
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train up your kids,
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and by the way, do you know what that means -
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train up? It means to teach the taste buds.
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Oh, I love that.
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You know, when I grew up,
my mother fed me junk food.
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When I got older, guess what I wanted - junk food.
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Denise grew up in a little farm
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where she ate vegetables; when she grew up,
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guess what she wanted - vegetables.
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And you really have the promise of scripture
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that if you give your kids a
taste for spiritual things,
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That's so good.
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When they get older, that's
what they're gonna want.
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And I just want to encourage you,
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whatever you've put in your kids
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or your grandkids, it's gonna come back.
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They will not depart from it.
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Maybe they're not serving
the way they should right
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now, but they will.
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And just like Dru says, you
can stand on the promise.
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You can stand on that promise. Amen.
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Amen. Amen. Absolutely.
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Dru, would you pray for our audience,
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especially those who have kids?
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Yes, I would.
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That maybe are not doing what they wish they were doing.
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I would be honored to do that. Would
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You do that?
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Yes. Yes. Just Take a minute. Jesus.
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We just come to you right now.
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And first of all, we say
thank you ahead of time.
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We command, we take authority that all
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of our children will not only serve you,
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but they will be a light
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and they will make a
difference in this world
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because that is what we are called to do.
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So we thank you Jesus, that every one
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of our children will serve
you, will love you God,
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and let them be a ministry to the world.
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And we thank you Jesus, that it's done.
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We seal it in heaven and we
say thank you ahead of time.
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We take this step on faith
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that it is done in Jesus' name - Amen.
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Amen. Dru, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
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Let's come back again tomorrow.
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Let's do it. - And tomorrow I want to talk about some
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of the amazing people you
have met throughout the world.
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Okay.
In your years
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and how you were very intentional
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about always sharing Jesus with them.
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You are gonna be dumbfounded when you hear
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what she's gonna be sharing
in tomorrow's program.
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It's actually quite funny
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because she's just so forthright with whoever she meets.
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And it's a great example for me
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and I believe it's a
great example for you.
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But I'll be back in just a moment
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and I'm going to pray for you.
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It is amazing what can
happen when you're willing
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to say - Yes - to God.
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In Rick Renner series, Inside The Hammer Story,
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Betrayal, Healing, and Hope:
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Rick and his guest, Dru Hammer,
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unpack Dru's riveting
testimony full of ministry
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to seemingly unreachable
people, struggles to forgive,
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betrayal and so much more.
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Her inspiring story will remind you
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that God's hand is always
at work in your life
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and you never know when he
might place you in an unlikely
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position of influence in someone else's life.
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Available in digital
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or physical formats starting at just $11.
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This 5-part series will help you
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to feel qualified wherever God puts you.
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In addition, we are offering you the book, Hammered
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by Dru Hammer.
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In this book, Dru shares intimate
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and anecdotal stories
about marrying into the Dr.
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Armand Hammer dynasty.
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From the excitement of
mingling with world leaders
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and royalty to the emotional
pain of a difficult divorce
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and how her faith was
strengthened through it all.
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You can order her faith-filled
memoir for just $19.
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Don't miss this special offer: the series, Inside the Hammer
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Story: Betrayal, Healing, and Hope, and the book, Hammered.
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Call the number on your screen
or scan the QR code to order.
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Call or go online today.
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Hey, this is Rick Renner
and guess where I am.
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This is a new little studio
we have built in our Tulsa
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facilities so that when
we're in the United States,
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we can also do programs here.
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But oh how we thank God for this building.
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And from here, the word of God is going to the ends
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of the earth.
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And here we're receiving
calls from people from all
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over the world.
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This facility is so very, very important
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and we're grateful to God for it
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and we're grateful for our
partners who are helping us
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to retire the debt on this building.
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We call it the Ministry Expansion Project
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because when this debt is retired,
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it's gonna release those finances to go
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to the ends of the earth.
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And guess what? Now we
have already paid off
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85% of the debt.
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We just have a little
ways to go to wrap it up.
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And if you're already a giving
partner to help us do this,
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I just wanna say thank you to you
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for everything that you do.
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And if you've not been a
part of the Giving Team yet,
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I invite you to join the Giving Team
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to help us in the Ministry Expansion Project
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to retire the debt on this facility
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so these finances can be released
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to take the trusted teaching of the Bible
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to the ends of the earth.
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I am so thankful that Dru
Hammer has been with us
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for today's program.
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Her testimony is just amazing.
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You know, the Bible tells us
that we overcome the enemy
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by the word of our testimony
and by the blood of the lamb.
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Your testimony is powerful too.
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But I really want you to have Dru's entire testimony,
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which is in her book called, Hammered.
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I read it from cover to
cover in a single setting.
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It is just riveting
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and you can find out how
to get it by going online
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or by giving us a call.
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And please, when you reach out to us,
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would you also let us
know how to pray for you?
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We're praying for you anyway,
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but when you tell us
how to pray, we're going
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to be more effective in our praying.
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And the Bible promises in Jeremiah 33:3,
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that if we call out in faith, God will hear us
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and he will do exactly
what needs to be done.
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And we want to pray with you in faith
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and believe for God to do what needs
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to be done in your life.
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Say amen.
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But hey, thank you for being
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with me. Tomorrow we're gonna return
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and we're gonna pick up
right here in this wonderful
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testimony with Dru Hammer.
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But Father, I thank you in Jesus' name
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for the wonderful things
we've heard today.
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And Lord, for the testimonies
you want to give to me
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and to every one of us
that are gathered together
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and are watching and listening; you want
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to do something absolutely
marvelous in every one
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of our lives and we open up our hearts for you
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to do the unthinkable.
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And we thank you for this in
the wonderful name of Jesus
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Amen. Alright, please be sure to join me again tomorrow
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as we continue this wonderful testimony with Dru Hammer.
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And if you've got a prayer request, let us know how to pray
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and be sure to request information about Dru's wonderful
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book called, Hammered -
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you will devour it.
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But hey, remember Ecclesiastes 8:4 says,
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"Where the word of a king is, there is power."
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If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior
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and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life
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Jesus has to give you.
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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,
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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. Wash away my sin and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
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for the rest of my life -
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Amen.
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Thank you for joining Rick Renner today.
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For more information about Renner Ministries
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and product resources, visit renner.org.