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Let's join Rick Renner.
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Welcome to today's program.
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My name is Rick Renner
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and I am very excited that
you've joined me today
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because today I have a guest.
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And the guest is Dru Hammer.
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And Dru, I wanna welcome
you to my program.
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I am so happy to be here,
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and so happy to be here
with you and Denise.
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Thank you. It's a great
honor that you're with us.
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And in case you don't know
who Dru is, stick around
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because you're about to find out
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and her story is riveting.
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I've known Dru's family,
I think about 40 years,
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and I am just amazed at her story.
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And recently she put it in a book and it's called, Hammered.
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Why in the World did you name it - Hammered?
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Well, because every heart has been hammered.
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And maybe someone will walk by
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and go, Oh, A crazy woman wrote a book and she was hammered.
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Maybe that's funny. And then they realize it's
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all about Jesus.
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Well, I read this book from cover
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to cover in one setting.
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I Was on a flight.
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What a blessing. And I began to read
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it and I thought, you know what?
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I cannot put this book down.
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Aw, thank you - Dru. It is just an amazing book.
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Thank you. I really appreciate that.
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I really read biographies,
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but I'm telling you, this is one of the best I've ever read.
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And you're gonna just love her story.
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And today we're gonna focus on the name, Hammer.
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Now, maybe you've heard the name Hammer before.
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Well, there's a couple really famous Hammers.
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One was named Armand Hammer,
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and we're gonna talk about him today.
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And Armand Hammer was really
the patriarch of this family.
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Right. - And he lived in
the Soviet Union really from
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about 1920 to 1930, was a friend
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of Lenin. Can you imagine?
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No - Cut
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all these deals with the Soviet Union: helped the Soviet
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Union when it was fledgling and just getting started.
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And really, I don't know if the Soviet Union
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would've survived
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without Armand's help.
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And that really is your
adopted grandfather, right?
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You married into the Hammer family.
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Right - And there's another famous Hammer,
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and that is Armie Hammer.
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Yes. And who is that?
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That's my son,
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Armie Hammer,
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the movie star is Dru's son.
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AnDru has another wonderful
son whose name is Victor.
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Victor. So she's very proud of both of her sons.
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But that's who Dru Hammer is.
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But today I wanna really
dive in to the history
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of Armand Hammer, how she came into this dynasty,
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and it really is a dynasty.
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In fact, this week we
had the National Prayer
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Breakfast in Moscow.
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And when they heard that
Dru was gonna be in Moscow
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to see me and Denise, they contacted me
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and they said she cannot come to Moscow
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and not speak at the
National Prayer breakfast.
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And so she stood on the stage and spoke
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and talked about how you led Armand to Christ.
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Yes - Thank you so much.
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God is so good. He's faithful.
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Well, let's talk about Armand Hammer.
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Okay. - So in 1920, 1921,
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he was a medical student, correct?
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Yes. He graduated from
Columbia Medical School.
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And why did he come to Russia?
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Well, his grandparents were from Russia,
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and then his parents immigrated.
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So Armand grew up in America,
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but when he graduated from
medical school, he had heard
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that there was a typhoid epidemic.
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So he thought, well, I'm gonna
do my residency in Russia.
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And he didn't even speak the language
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because a lot of Russian immigrants that came to America,
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it was very important to them
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that their children integrated into the American
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culture, if you will.
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So they only spoke English in the home.
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And it's kind of a funny story
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because when Armand first went to Russia,
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he learned a hundred words a day.
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And after a while he was thinking, well,
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I think I speak Russian well enough.
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And he's went and spoke to a crowd
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and not one of them understood
a word he was saying.
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They thought he was
speaking in English. So,
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And how old was he when he came?
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He was 23 when he came.
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And by the time he came,
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he had already made his 1st million dollars. Is that
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right?
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Yes. That's a fascinating story.
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Now Dru, think about it - we're talking about
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1920, 1920.
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Right. - That was a lot of money back in those
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days.
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That was a lot of money.
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So what happened was his father had a pharmaceutical company
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and the father got in a little bit of trouble.
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He was the head of the Communist Party in America.
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I don't know if he was the
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head, but he was involved in that.
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Now I wanna ask you a question.
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Okay? - Okay. Armand's dad was one of the leaders
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of the American Communist Party. I read all about it.
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Yes - How in the world does one of the leaders
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of the American Communist Party raise a son
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who becomes a capitalist like Armand Hammer? Right.
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The ultimate capitalist.
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Well, this is a funny story
that Armand told me one time.
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He went to his mother.
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Her name was Mama Rose,
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and she was a typical Russian
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that would literally have a shot of vodka
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with pepper every morning
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Breakfast.
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And you told me she had
been an actress in Russia.
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Yes. Well, no, that was
actually Armand's wife.
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Oh, okay.
Yes. So we'll get to her.
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But his mother, Mama Rose, one time he went to her
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and he told me, he said I said to my mother - Why do you put
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so much emphasis on my little brother Victor,
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and you pay him more attention?
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She said, because Armand, you
are going to change the world.
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As young as 5-years old,
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he would go down to the markets
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and they would have their, you know,
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strung bagels on strings,
the Jewish merchants
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and all the markets, the outdoor markets.
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And they were Jewish. - They were Jewish, Russian Jews.
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And he would walk around the market
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and study who had the best price on apples
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and how many they were selling.
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And then he would go back to the merchants
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who were selling the apples for more
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and say, if you lowered your price,
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you would sell more apples.
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But because your price is
higher, he would literally go
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around to the markets and
talk to all the merchants.
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This 5 and 6-year-old child.
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That was just how his mind worked.
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And I really believe that we
all have a calling in life.
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And I think business was just his calling.
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Well, you know I was thinking about this program today. In
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Proverbs 16:9 says,
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A man's heart devises his way,
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but the Lord directs his steps.
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Yes - And I think
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that Armand did not know God
was directing his steps even
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from that early moment.
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And I want to tell you, friend,
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God's got a plan for your life.
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You may think you've got it all figured out,
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but the truth is, God
may have another plan.
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And in fact, Dru's testimony,
which you're gonna hear all
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of it by Friday, is that
God always has a plan.
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And sometimes he even has a plan B. He is always in charge.
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But what did Armand's
parents think when he began
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making all that money
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and here his parents were really at heart, communists:
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Well, actually, his father went to prison
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and he had a pharmaceutical company
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that was really becoming bankrupt
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because there was no one to run it.
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And while he went to prison
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because he performed an abortion, look
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how God just completely changes heritages
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and generations and blesses them
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and redeems them, if you will.
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So when he was in prison,
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Armand was a young medical student.
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And he said to one of his classmates - I have
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to work at my dad's pharmaceutical company
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because it's gonna go bankrupt
if I don't, so if you will go
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to class and take exclusive notes for me,
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I will give you free room and board.
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And when I get home at night, I'll study
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and get ready for medical school.
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So he never went to class.
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And the funniest thing is,
is I have a charm bracelet
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with his Magna Cum Laude key on it,
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because he graduated #1 in his medical school.
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And the professors didn't even know who he was
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'cause he was never in class.
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So by the time he graduated
from medical school,
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he turned his father's
pharmaceutical company around
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and sold it for several million dollars.
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And I believe he gave
half of it to his dad.
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And he kept a million dollars.
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And that was in the early 20's?
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Yes. Yes" - I mean,
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that was major - it's still big money.
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Right. But back in the 20's?
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Right.
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Where - I don't even know what that would be today.
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It would be an enormous sum of money.
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I would think so. - And then
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because there was a typhoid epidemic in Russia -
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Well, he thought there was,
that's what he had heard.
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Okay. - So by the time he
got over there, he just said,
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I think I'll do my medical
residency in Russia.
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Well Dru, let's talk about that.
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Okay.
Because when he came here,
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it was at the very peak of
the Bolshevik Revolution.
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Oh yes. It was.
People were dying.
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The Czar and his family
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Yes.
It was a time of upheaval.
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And here comes young
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Armand Hammer - a kid - a kid comes into this system
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that is literally turned upside down.
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Right - And in fact, the the Bolsheviks,
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the early communists, believed for them
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to create the new Soviet system they wanted to create,
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they had to totally decimate the old system.
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Yes.
So anyone who was a part
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of the old system was sent
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the infrastructure was totally destroyed.
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Yes - And here comes Armand Hammer.
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And he saw opportunity.
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Well, he was very scrappy.
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So when he got here, he
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and realized
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And when you say Euros,
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Yes. Yes.
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And all the countryside and
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and studied them and he said,
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They are dying of starvation.
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'cause they'd had one of the
worst winners in history.
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And not just that because the
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infrastructure had been destroyed.
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Right - There was no ability to deliver goods.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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So I think Armand saw
it as an opportunity.
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So here is this kid,
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and somehow we know it's God,
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but somehow he gets an
appointment with Lenin
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and goes into his office
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and says, your people
are starving to death.
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And we have a bumper crop
in the United States.
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They are burning bushels of wheat
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or selling them for a dollar a bushel.
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They're just throwing, trying to get rid of it.
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'cause they had so, such an overabundance.
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And because America was centered on God.
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So God blessed their land, but they had nothing.
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The people were starving to death. So he made a trade.
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He started the 1st trade between Russians and Americans.
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And he said, I will buy 1 million bushels
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of wheat in exchange for furs,
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antiquities, and jewels and art work,
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And caviar - and some jewels - and caviar.
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Caviar.
Which he brought over in 50
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gallon barrels - the caviar
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Back to the United States.
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Back to the United States.
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Well, you know, right now in Russia,
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we're living at a time of sanctions.
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Yes. - There's so many
sanctions against Russia.
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And so when you tell the story they were,
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Russia had sanctions back in those days.
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But back in those days, it wasn't Russia,
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it was the Soviet Union.
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Right. - You could not do business with the Soviet Union.
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That's right. - And so Armand creatively found a way
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to do business and avoid all the sanctions.
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I think that is amazing.
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Well, and I think as well
is if Lenin has the problem
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of his people starving to death,
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the first thing you wanna do
is be the - be the hero,
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and get a solution to this.
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And when a young American comes to you
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and says, we're burning wheat,
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I can bring over a million bushels of wheat,
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it'd be hard to turn that down.
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Well, it really opened
the door for Armand.
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Oh - Gosh. And And he began
to do business in fur, caviar.
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Yes. - He was paid in the treasures of the Czar.
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He went home with Faberge eggs.
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I know. Sorry.
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I have to tell you that one day,
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one day I was at the museum here in Moscow
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and I was standing in front of a collection of faberge eggs.
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And the guide said - unfortunately, there are some
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of these wonderful eggs
that are still in America
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because of the industrialist
Armand Hammer.
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Oh. And I said, you know what?
His family are my friends.
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That is, she was shocked.
Is so funny. I know, I know.
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But at that time, they had no use for that.
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When you have people starving to death.
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So his timing was impeccable. Of
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Course.
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And they had no cash to pay because the whole system had
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collapsed.
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They had nothing. Exactly.
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But they could pay with treasures.
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That's right. - And fur and caviar.
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I know.
I love caviar.
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I do too.
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Oh, well, and it's interesting
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because all
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through the years when I
was married into the family,
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he would bring home, every
time he went to Russia,
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he would bring these huge
tens of Bulgar caviar.
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And I have pictures of my sons at age two
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and four with a spoon eating
caviar out of this tin.
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And we didn't even appreciate
it as much back then.
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But now I'm like, oh, where
is Armand with those huge tins
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of caviar for us?
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Now another interesting
thing about Armand Hammer is
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that he really was the most vital contact
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between the United States
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and the Soviet Union, I believe for about 67 or 68
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years.
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That's exactly what it was - Exactly.
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So if America wanted to
talk to Soviet leaders,
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Right.
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It happened through Armand Hammer.
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That always happened through
Armand. He was the liaison.
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So he knew Stalin.
Yes.
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He knew Khrushchev.
Yes.
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He knew Brezhnev, he knew Chernenko, he knew Andropov.
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And one day he called you in California
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and said, Hey, I want you and Michael to come over.
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Right - We're having lunch with Gorbachev today.
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Right. Isn't that the craziest thing?
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And at the time, I'm this kid, I,
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we had just gotten married.
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I was 24 years old.
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We just moved to LA
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and when I moved there, I was like, boy,
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I'm not in Kansas anymore.
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I'm a, you know, we're a small town.
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You're a Tulsa girl from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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So you know, when Armand called Michael
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and said, you know, I want
you to be at this meeting
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and bring Dru, I was like - Wow,
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Okay! So I go,
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but I have to be honest,
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I'm not even sure I really understood
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who Armand really was.
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And I'm really grateful because I wasn't even intimidated
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because I didn't, I didn't really think anything about it.
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We didn't have Google.
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How old were you when you
married into the family?
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I was 23 and I met Gorbachev at 24.
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And I mean, it's just a crazy story. - All
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right,
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you tell a funny story in this book
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that the 1st time Armand had you over for
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lunch - Oh gosh
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There were 6 people at the table.
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Just mortified. - You said there was so much space
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between you and the other people.
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You could like put your
arms out and not touch them.
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Armand was at one end of the table,
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his wife at the other end.
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And the people came in.
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It was just family,
Like dressed in tuxedos.
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Oh, - with white napkins over their arms
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carrying silver domed
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food - Yes
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And it was just the family.
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Well it was so funny
because it was Christmas
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and it was our 1st Christmas together
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and we had gotten married
the January afterwards.
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So what happened was is
we spent Christmas Eve
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with my family and then early
that morning we flew to LA
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but my family we're
like, leave it to Beaver,
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a Norman Rockwell portrait.
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You know, we have matching pajamas
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with our names monogrammed on it.
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And we were baking cookies
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and we would go downtown
to First Methodist
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and take communion and
have a candlelit dinner
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and all this, you know,
wonderful circumstances.
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And we drive to Armand's
home that morning.
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And I remember thinking, oh
my gosh, that limousine is
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as long as his house.
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And we're walking up these stairs and there's Modigliani
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and all these portraits.
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I mean - not portraits, paintings on the walls.
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And I remember thinking, I don't even know
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who those paintings are.
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I had no idea who Modigliani was. - It was one of
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the most substantial private art
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collections in the world. - I
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know.
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And I didn't know, which
is probably a good thing
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'cause when you're from Tulsa, Oklahoma
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and you have parents
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that their 1st priority is ministering the gospel
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of Jesus.
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We didn't spend a lot
of time on things like
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that in our family.
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So I walk in
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and I will never forget,
there's this huge grand piano,
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a Steinway: he was a concert pianist actually.
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And there was a man in a tuxedo playing the
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piano for us.
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And I remember looking around thinking, well,
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where is everybody else?
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When are they going to come? And it was just the 5 of us
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'cause there's only 5 members in the family.
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Armand had one child, Julian. Julian had Michael,
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the only grandson and his sister Casey and me.
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So it was the five of us
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and this coffee table with this enormous tin
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of caviar on there.
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And I'd never even had caviar
before from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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And I just remember thinking,
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this is the weirdest thing
I've ever seen in my life.
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But not only that, they,
they, you could tell, they,
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they were just talking pleasantries if you, if you will.
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They, they, they didn't even seem like they knew each other.
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So we - a man comes in in a tuxedo and rings the silver bell
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and it's time for the Christmas dinner.
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So we go into the dining room
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and do you remember those old 30's
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and 40's movies with these enormous long tables?
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And people are so far spread apart.
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And I remember thinking, okay,
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this is the weirdest thing
I've ever seen in my life.
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And then all of a sudden the procession,
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the huge silver trays with the domes
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and you know, the women of course were in the black outfits
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with the white organza aprons and the whole thing.
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And they're carrying in these huge: there wasn't enough food
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for 50 people is all I have to say.
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And there were five of us.
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So I remember they were talking about
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pleasantries and the weather.
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And our family. We just
got down and dirty.
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We talked about everything and
prayed together all the time.
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So afterwards, Armand comes over
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and puts his hands on my shoulders
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and said, I would like
to meet you in my library
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and visit with you.
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Well again, thank God I really didn't understand who he was.
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And I'd be going - Oh my goodness. But I was like - Okay.
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So I get up and I walk into his library
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and I start laughing.
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And he says, what's so funny?
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I said, you have a library on the Dewey Decimal system?
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Who has a private library on the....
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I just thought that was the
funniest thing in the world.
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So he kind of got a kick outta that
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because he didn't know what to do with me.
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So he seats me in front of him at his desk
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and he said, what are your hobbies?
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And I go, well, I mean, I grew up playing tennis.
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And he picks up the phone and makes some call
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and says, I have my new granddaughter in-law with me
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and she's a tennis player, so I'd like for you
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to get her a membership at the Country Club - click.
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And I'm thinking, it's Christmas Day.
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He just picks up the phone
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and asks for a country club membership.
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And I laughed and I said,
is that a bat phone?
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And he just started laughing.
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He just didn't know what to do with me
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because my dad always had a
really funny sense of humor.
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And I just think you have to
laugh at yourself in life.
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Right. So we were talking
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and he said, I have a favor to ask of you.
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And I said, okay.
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He said, Michael's my only grandson
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and I'm really, I want him to - I want
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to teach him the ways of my businesses.
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And I would like for him to take over my foundation someday.
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So I would like for him
to go everywhere with me.
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And I think it's unhealthy for
him not to be with his wife.
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'cause his wife Francis
went everywhere with him.
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So I'm gonna ask you not to work.
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And I looked at him and I said - Is that a trick question?
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And he starts laughing again.
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I go, you want me to
travel the world with you
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and you don't want me to work?
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Like that's a question.
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And he just honestly didn't
know what to do with me.
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So he said yes. And I said,
I think I can do that.
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But actually I couldn't
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because I realized I was very driven
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that I ended up renovating
tons of properties
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and I could do it and then
travel and just get ahead.
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But anyways, so we had an
incredible life together.
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But after I, he said that,
I said, well, I'd like
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to ask you a question.
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And he goes, okay.
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I and - I look back
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and I'm like, I cannot even believe I said this to this man
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at 23 - this little pip squeak.
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I said, I would like for
you to allow me to teach you
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how to be a family.
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Can you believe I said that?
Because they weren't a family.
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It, it felt like they didn't even know each other.
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And he kinda leaned back in
your his chair and he goes,
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and how exactly do you propose to do that?
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And I said, I would love for you to come
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to our home every Sunday.
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We have Sunday supper at our house
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and I would like for you
to come spend time with us.
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And I would love for you to
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watch your great-grandchildren grow up.
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And he said, okay.
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And the interesting thing is how God used
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that time together.
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Because he would come over every Sunday,
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he was in the country and he would stay
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and he loved it.
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He loved it because I'd
make him southern meals.
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And he was so used to fancy
things that he just loved.
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I would make meatloaf. I
wasn't even a cook really.
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Or you know, fried chicken
things that we grew up on.
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And he just loved it.
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And he would stay, he
would end up taking a nap.
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He would fall asleep on the couch.
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It was the funniest thing in the world.
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But God allowed that time for me
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to start ministering to him.
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And what I always tell people is,
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even when you think people aren't listening to you, they're
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Listening.
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God's, God's word never returns void.
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Amen. - So I would just
pray each time and say, God,
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and I had to learn how to read him
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because a brilliant
man like that, you have
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to grasp the right moment.
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You can't just come in like
a bulldozer like I tend
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to do sometimes.
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But I had to learn to read him
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and I could tell when he was listening
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and then I knew when to cut it off.
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Now we're out of time.
Okay.
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What a place to end.
I know it's
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A great place to start tomorrow.
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Okay, great. - So this story just gets better
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and better and better.
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So if you've enjoyed
what you've heard today,
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which it's absolutely thrilling to me,
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you know, I live in Russia.
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This history of Armand Hammer is
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so profound in this part of the world.
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And tomorrow you're gonna find
out how Armand Hammer came
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to Christ at the end of his life.
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But I'll be back in just a moment
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and I'm going to pray for you.
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What do you do if you know
the call of God on your life,
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but it is a fight to see it
come to pass in your life?
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Well, you just keep fighting.
You just keep fighting.
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You say, well, why am I fighting?
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Well, first of all, you
gotta fight yourself.
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Your biggest enemy is you.
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If you can overcome you,
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you can overcome the
devil in everything else.
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You gotta overcome your
fear, you gotta overcome,
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you're worrying about
what other people think.
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You got a lot to overcome.
You gotta overcome the enemy,
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but you just keep overcoming
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and remember that you are an overcomer.
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Anyone that is born of God is an overcomer.
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That's what the Bible says. You have everything in you
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you need to do whatever God's asked you to do.
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God just needs you to say yes
and decide to get started.
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It is amazing what can
happen when you're willing
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to say - Yes - to God.
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In Rick Renner's series, Inside The Hammer Story:
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and his guest Dru Hammer, unpack Dru's riveting testimony
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that God's hand is always
at work in your life
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might place you in an unlikely
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In addition, we are offering you the book, Hammered,
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Armand Hammer dynasty.
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pain of a difficult divorce
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and how her faith was strengthened through it all.
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Call or go online today.
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I wanna say thank you for being with me
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and Dru Hammer today and
tomorrow we're gonna come back
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and she's gonna continue
her amazing testimony.
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But I really want you to have her book called, Hammered,
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about it by going online
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or by giving us a call and let
us know how to pray for you.
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And Father, we thank in the
name of Jesus, you've given
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to every one of us a testimony.
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Help us to share with others - in Jesus name -
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Amen. I'll see you tomorrow.
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But remember Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word
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of a king is, there is power."
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If you've never received Jesus as your Savior
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and Lord, now is the time for you to experience a new life
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Jesus has to give you.
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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,
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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. wash away my sin
and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
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for the rest of my life - Amen.
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Thank you for joining Rick Renner today.
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