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It's Time with Denise Renner.

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<v ->Hello friend.</v>

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My name is Denise Renner and
I welcome you to this program.

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We've been having amazing
time in these programs

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and God has been moving by his spirit.

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And I had the most amazing
guest, Dru Hammer.

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And I have to tell you about her book

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because I want you to have it.

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I want you to have this book. It's called, Hammered.

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And as you know, if you've lived long enough, you've noticed

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that the devil tries to make sure that all

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of our hearts get hammered
at one time or another.

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And how are you gonna get through that?

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Well, a big part of getting
through that is forgiveness.

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And that's what we're
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program today.

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And I believe that many

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of you are gonna find
freedom in your heart

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and maybe even a long time bitterness

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or a pain that's been in your heart.

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I've heard so many testimonies
of people who have had,

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have testimonies of how the word

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of God has absolutely gone in there

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and just, just healed and arranged

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and like just, you might wanna say,

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straightened up their
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of forgiveness.

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Oh, he's so powerful and he's
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So Dru, of course, I want people

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to have your book because thank you.

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It is amazing.

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<v ->Thank - You. It is a story with many stories,</v>

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<v ->Many stories within stories. You're</v>

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<v ->Right, you're right.</v>

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And it's a hard one to put down.

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And we're gonna talk
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<v ->Which is a tough one.</v>

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That's right up there.

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One of the hardest things to do, I think.

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But what I found, you know, I went

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through a very painful divorce and I was heartbroken.

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'cause you know, the way we were raised,

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you walk down the aisle,
it's forever, you take them

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for better or worse.

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And I was just really heartbroken,

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to be perfectly honest.

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And I never thought that I wouldn't be

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seeing my children grow up with my grandchildren

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and all of us being together in this Norman Rockwell family.

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But that just didn't happen.

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And that forgiveness is one

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of the most difficult
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<v ->And Dru, what was, what happened that,</v>

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that you found yourself in this divorce?

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<v ->Well, there were infidelities: years of infidelities.</v>

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And you know, I was kind of stubborn

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and thought, I will never
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that turns my head

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and pretends like it's
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to be in a situation with
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So there were just so many times

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where I prayed for God
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But it takes two to tango, right?

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<v ->Yeah, it does.</v>
<v ->So I was so heartbroken.</v>

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But when you're going through
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to forgive because you're
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And I always say I mentor a lot of women

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who have been through divorce. And

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<v ->How did</v>
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<v ->That, Dru?</v>

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<v ->Well, they just have heard my story.</v>

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<v ->Ah. - And you know, I've gotten together within churches,</v>

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I've spoken at churches, I did my whole book tour.

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And a lot of it was on forgiveness.

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is God says if we can't forgive others, he can't forgive us.

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So when I was going through
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to forgive when you're
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with everything going on
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after a marriage of 27 years,
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if you know what I mean.

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And I really had to turn to God

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because it was bigger than me.

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And that's what God does, and
that's what God wants to do,

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because this life is bigger than we are.

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this life would've taken me down.

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It really would have.

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And I'll tell you a really
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So I have a son that's an actor,

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and I had flown to London

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because he was filming a movie
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And Army says to me - Mama, you know, guy Richie,

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the director, he is a
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and start talking to him about Jesus.

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<v ->What is a cabalist?</v>

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<v ->Well, it's kind of Jewish mysticism.</v>

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<v ->Okay?</v>
<v ->So he said</v>

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to mom, don't come on set
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And I'm like, waah, why I would never do such a thing.

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And he's like, mom, I'm serious.

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'cause you know, I'm, it's just, I can't help myself. Right?

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I'm just going around
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So we're sitting outside
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and it starts drizzling in
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So the director, Guy Richie,
very prolific director,

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he comes out of the trailer

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and he says, Dru, come into the trailer

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and watch it from here so
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And he said, I'll show you what I look for in the cameras.

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And I thought, well, that's fun.

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I didn't even get up the stairs into the trailer when he

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says to me, so I hear you're one

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of those born again Christians.

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He said, I actually think

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that is a crock and a crutch.

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you would be so offended.

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But what does Jesus say?
Do not take offense.

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<v ->Right? He not take offense.</v>

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<v ->So I said to him, I go, really?</v>

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That's so interesting a crock.

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I said, well, it has
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And let me ask you a
question. He goes, okay.

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I said, you just got a
divorce with Madonna, right?

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And he goes, yes, I did.

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I said, I bet that was one

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of the most difficult things in your life

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that you've ever been through.

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He said, it certainly was.

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I said, and I would venture
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she probably had a little
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He goes, probably.

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So I said, well, I was
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I said, the crock part.

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I said, God was so real
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that I don't know how I got through it.

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I honestly don't know
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I said, but the crutch part, I said,

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what's wrong with the crutch?

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I said, we all need something to lean on.

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And when I needed more than
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And he looked at me

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and he goes, well, that was a good answer.

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So basically for two hours after that,

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and I was kinda laughing

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'cause I'm like, don't
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movies at the screen?

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Because here he has a movie being filmed.

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And he's like, no, I got this. You know?

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But for two hours we
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about the difference between
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And he heard the truth

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and God says, my word
will never return void.

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So I said to him, if I send
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He goes, I think so.

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So I sent him this big beautiful coffee table book of all

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of CS Lewis writings, every one of them,

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the screw tape letters.

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And it was a beautiful
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because he's from England

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and they all appreciate

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what a literary brilliant
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it's really an allegory of
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and especially mere Christianity,

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because he was an atheist, as we know.

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And then through his search

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and through his studies,
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after realizing

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how Jesus had truly
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from the Old Testament.

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So I sent it to him, never heard back,

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but God strategically put me in

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that situation at a perfect time.

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<v ->Oh, I believe that.</v>

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And Dru another thing I believe that if we don't forgive,

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if we stay in bitterness,

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that it is very difficult

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to move in a place of the love
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Well, you can't, so you
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<v ->Right. You can't. You really can't.</v>

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<v ->When years ago</v>

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I was in a situation

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and I got bitterness in my heart,

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and I really didn't know

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that I had unforgiveness in my heart.

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I just thought if this
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then I will be Okay.

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So, so I am the victim and

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and it's your fault that I'm this way.

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Right? Right. Right. I mean,
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<v ->At</v>
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<v ->Moment, which is human nature.</v>

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<v ->Right?</v>
<v ->Right.</v>

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<v ->So, but then I started
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and my hands and my feet were painfully

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cold all the time.

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And this went on for a long time.

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And then I started having tremendous fear

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and it was like a vice was on my mind.

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<v ->Wow. - And I even had three
panic attacks where I thought</v>

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that the walls were closing in on me.

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Right. So I'm thinking to
myself, I'm a Christian leader

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and this is crazy.

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Right? Right. So I'm seeking
God every single day, God,

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what, what is wrong with me?

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And I'm not gonna go to the
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I'm not telling somebody
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Right. But Jesus was
already my healer. Right.

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I'd already been healed of a disease

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in overnight that I'd had for 13

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years. - Yes.

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<v ->And so he'd already,</v>

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he's already manifested himself to me.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->As a miracle worker.</v>

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<v ->Yes. - So why not believe
him for whatever this is</v>

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that has attacked my body.

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<v ->Right. Amen. - So I went to the doctor.</v>

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<v ->Yes. - And so I kept seeking the word,</v>

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seeking the Lord.

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And I wouldn't let go of the Lord.

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I mean, the symptoms are all there. They're there every day.

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For me to even get peace
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by myself and worship God.

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That's the only way I
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And so this is going on month after month

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after month after month.

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and we were doing, we did
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that particular Wow.

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Summer. Well, the whole
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<v ->Oh wow.</v>

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<v ->In this condition that
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I was hanging onto the sink

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and I said, Lord, I
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but I will not let go of you.

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Amen. And I'm holding onto that sink. I'll never forget it.

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<v ->And he said, and then
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and he said, he said, you
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and you have broken places in your heart.

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And in 24 hours you're gonna
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He's so good. So how
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<v ->Oh. So in that 24
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and I did need to forgive,

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and I did need to ask for forgiveness.

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I did that. I went to bed that night.

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I woke up the next morning exactly like that prophet said,

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completely free.

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<v ->Yes. - It was like my hands are normal.</v>

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My feet are normal.
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Thank you Jesus. And, and
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and drug out all that bitterness and resentment. -

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Right - and it's all about - and it was all gone letting go.

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<v ->And it was all gone</v>
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It was all gone. That is so beautiful. And it was all gone.

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Praise Jesus. And Dru -

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And there's so many people
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All that suffer. And the thing
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I mean, that's how the devil grabs you

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and gets a hold of you.

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Oh. And you feel like you can't get out.

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<v ->Right. And - Yeah. But again,</v>

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that's when God does his greatest work when it's bigger than

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we are, when we can't
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<v ->Bigger than</v>
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And that's when you go, God,
I have to give this to you.

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Yes. This is bigger than I am.

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<v ->Yes. Yes.</v>
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<v ->Can move.</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>
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<v ->Amen.</v>
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you know, the word of God is filled

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with Jesus teaching us to forgive.

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And in Matthew 18, there's a story.

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And Jesus was telling this story,

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and this servant owed - Jesus -

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some scholars say the equivalent of $10 million.

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and so this servant owed this master $10 million.

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And the servant just begged this master,

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please forgive me,

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please have mercy on me

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because they were gonna throw him

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and his children into the prison until they paid the debt.

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Well, he begged for mercy.

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And this master forgave that servant

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that he forgave him.

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And that servant was free

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because that's just like you and I.

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When Jesus comes, he
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But then we come in situations in life,

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just like Dru described,

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and I described that it is
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to have unforgiveness.

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And now it's our turn to give this forgiveness. - Right.

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Well, this is what happened to that servant.

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So another servant came,

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and oh, the one who had
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he owed him $20 -

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$20. And you know what?

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The servant that was free did? The guy

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who owed the $20 begged him to forgive him.

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And the Bible says he would not,

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is right there in my Bible,

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verse 30. And

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that servant who said I will not put his hands

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around that other servant's neck and threw him into prison.

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And Jesus says, in the, in
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If you do not forgive from your heart,

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my heavenly Father will not forgive you.

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<v ->Ooh. That's scary, isn't it?</v>
<v ->I know.</v>

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<v ->I need forgiveness
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And it's interesting.
You can read that story

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and then you go, can you believe that?

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<v ->I know - Jesus forgives us of huge things that we've done.</v>

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And then someone does a little
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and we don't forgive them.

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Yes. So we can all probably
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But one thing I did learn when
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greatest thing in the
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Because first of all, what's that saying

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when you throw poison on someone else

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and expecting it, no poi
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and expect it to burn the other person.

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That's what unforgiveness does.

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It doesn't hurt the other
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Like you said, it ate
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and then ramifications

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of being cold in your hands and your feet.

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So it, you know it, it
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But the key is when you forgive, then all

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of a sudden Michael and I became very good friends.

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We would spend holidays together with our sons

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and with our grandchildren.

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And I thought, look what
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don't forgive.

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Oh, so true. Then you
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and you're alone and it's miserable.

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And it only hurts you
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So because the Lord helped me

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and allowed me to let that go,

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when Michael was dying in the
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glioblastoma, I would
crawl in bed with him

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and wrap my arms around
him and love on him

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and say, you know, thank you

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for the incredible Father you
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that you provided for us.

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And I'd pray in in the Spirit
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And he'd go, I see angels.

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I mean, what glorious times

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that we would've missed out on dear

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and our family times

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that we would've missed
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to let it go.

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<v ->That's right.</v>
<v ->But God had to help me.</v>

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'cause sometimes it is bigger than we are.

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<v ->Well, and Dru, he has helped us</v>

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because the Bible says in Romans 5:5,

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that the love of God has been shed of brought in our heart

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by the Holy Ghost.

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<v ->Yes. - And it's not the junior love of God,</v>

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<v ->Right - It's the love of God that God loved Jesus with:</v>

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that very love of God.

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<v ->Right - Lives on the inside of our heart.</v>

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<v ->Amen. - And we can forgive.
We have to agree with God.</v>

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Amen. Agree with him

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and receive his power.

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But if you're born
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of God on the inside of you.

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That's right. And you can forgive.

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You know, I've heard
stories of people saying

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that I was this, this
terrible thing happened.

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They'd say, what terrible thing happened?

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And it was terrible.

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But they began to confess

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and line themselves up with
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That his love was on the
inside of their heart,

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and they would say, I by faith, forgive so and so.

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And they did it. And they
did it. And they did it.

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And them lining themselves up
with the power of God on the

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inside, using their faith,

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they said - You know, I just woke up one day

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and it was just gone.

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It was just gone

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because it's agreeing with the power of God.

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<v ->Amen. - The power is there right now</v>

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for you to even release
someone who's hurt you.

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I wanna recommend a a little tool,

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but it, I've heard many testimonies.

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It's my tiny little book called - The Gift of Forgiveness.

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And I've heard so many
testimonies of people

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who had bitterness in
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One man was in prison, he wrote me

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and he said, I got your book.

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Wow. I am free. I am free from all the hurts

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that I have carried all these years.

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And I want all my cellmates
to read this book. Wow.

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Why 'cause it?

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Well, it was a testimony,

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but it's the testimony
of the power of the blood

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and that the blood of
Jesus, it put the love

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of God in our heart.

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<v ->Amen.</v>
<v ->And we can forgive.</v>

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It's when we don't say,
when it's, when we say,

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I can't forgive.

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And there's got to be a
smidgen of you that has

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to agree with God.

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Like Dru said, we have
to ask for his help. Yes.

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Well that's using your faith right

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<v ->There.</v>

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And the power of our words.

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That's not saying I can't forgive.

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<v ->Yeah. And that's agreeing with God's power on the inside's</v>

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and his word.

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Right.

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<v ->So this can be your
day to set somebody free.</v>

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<v ->Amen. - And, and Dru, I
just, I look at your life</v>

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and I, I've read your
book, some of your book,

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I've talked stories and stories with you.

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I know a lot

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and I know how you had
a lot of opportunity

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to even this day

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hold on to unforgiveness. But you are so free. I'm

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<v ->So free.</v>

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You're so free. It's the

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<v ->Lord.</v>

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And you're studying so
many other people free.

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<v ->I hope so. - I hope so. By
the praise Lord of God. Amen.</v>

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That's in your heart by the Holy Ghost.

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<v ->Amen</v>
<v ->Is so wonderful.</v>

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Well, we're just almost out of time.

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I want you to stay with me
'cause we're coming right back

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and we're going to pray with you.

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<v ->Every heart gets crushed by this world</v>

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sometimes. We all experience pain, fear,

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loss, and attack.

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But as believers, we have hope in the fact

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that God is still powerful

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and he's always finding ways to equip

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and use us to touch those around us.

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In her series, From Broken Places to Beautiful Grace,

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Denise Renner and her guest,

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Dru Hammer, share personal stories to encourage you

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with the incredible ways God moves in

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and through broken lives.

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You'll hear stories about -

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God's perfect unexpected planning:

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The power of a willing heart: The path to physical

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and emotional healing.

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This heartfelt, 5-part series is available in digital

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and physical formats starting at just $11.

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In addition to this teaching series,

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we are also offering you the book, Hammered - by Dru Hammer.

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In this earnest memoir,

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Dru shares details from
her incredible messy life

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to encourage you that even
in the darkest moments,

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God is moving to bring
healing to broken hearts.

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You can purchase, Hammered, today for $19.

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Don't miss this special offer:
the series, From Broken Places

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to Beautiful Grace and the book, Hammered - by Dru Hammer.

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Visit renner.org to order.

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<v ->If God is touching your
heart through this program,</v>

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we are gonna pray with you.

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But I want you to call us.

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We got Prayer Partners waiting for your call

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to minister with you, minister to you,

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and we've seen so many testimonies of people

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who have gotten free.

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And also I wanna offer Dru's book again

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because just reading this book, God can touch your heart.

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If you're having a hard
time forgiving somebody,

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believing the best about somebody

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or letting offense go from somebody.

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We're all tempted.

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And Jesus said, offense
will come to all of us.

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But he said in Ephesians 4:

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32: it says - Be kind one to another,

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tenderhearted

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and forgiving one another as God

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for Christ's sake has forgiven you.

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He wants us, as we talked about in the program,

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to acknowledge the love of God in our heart

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and give that forgiveness to those

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who have wounded us.

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Father, right now, in the
name of Jesus, we agree

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with our friend right there:

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just put your hand on your heart

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and say - Lord, I release that person.

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If you've never even done it
or tried, do it right now.

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Release that person by faith.

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You don't have to feel it,
but you need to say it.

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Oh, it's gonna be the best day

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of your life when you
start getting free of

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that heavy burden of
bitterness and unforgiveness.

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And as Dru said to you,

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and as I told you, I have no condemnation.

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I suffered under it for many months.

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So this is why we're
preaching this word to you.

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We want you to be free.

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Well, we love you and join me

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on my next program.

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I feel bad, really bad. I'm exhausted.

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No one understands me.

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I can't even remember
the last time I felt joy.

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I'm worn out spinning
like a hamster on a wheel.

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I'm tired of it. Life is passing me by.

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My husband and kids live their own lives.

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No one cares about me.

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I look at myself in the mirror
and see life slipping away.

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I ruin everything in my path.

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I feel like if I collapsed right now,

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no one would even notice.

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I don't understand what's happening.

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The world is so fragile,
unstable, full of pain,

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resentment, and disappointment.

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Where can I find love and
hope? Who can help me?

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<v ->If you're tired, if you have
no strength left, know this.</v>

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There is someone who can fill your life

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with joy and new meaning.

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His name is Jesus Christ.

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He said, come to me all
who are weary and burdened

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and I will give you rest. In God,

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you can find the strength to live. You need Jesus.

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Turn to him right now. We
would love to help you.

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<v ->If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior</v>

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and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life

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Jesus has to give you.

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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,

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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior

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and Lord. Wash away my sin

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and make me completely new.

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I thank you that my sin is removed

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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.

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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord

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for the rest of my life -

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Amen.