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It's Time with Denise Renner.
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Hello, my name is Denise Renner
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and I wanna welcome you to my program.
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And today I have the most amazing guest. She's been with me,
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you gotta go to the archives before this.
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And her name is Dru Hammer.
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And she has this most amazing book called - Hammered.
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And it's her testimony,
glorious testimony,
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how God really just took a simple,
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just loved God person
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and gave the most amazing life.
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And of course there's
adventures in that life.
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There's hurts, there's
pains, there's surprises,
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and how God shows up
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so big.
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Amen. If you need encouragement, I want you to get this book
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because she called it, Hammered.
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And honestly Dru,
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I think everybody's heart at
one time has been hammered.
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Everybody's heart has been hammered.
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If you're alive, you've, you've been
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hammered. If you're,
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If you're alive, that's right.
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Because the enemy is a liar.
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Right. - He is a thief. He is a murderer.
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And he wants to hurt God's
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beautiful creation.
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That's right. Destroy us.
So that's his whole goal.
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His whole M.O I know, but Jesus, but God, but Jesus,
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but God, he took the punishment.
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Yes. He took the hammering
of every soul. Amen.
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The deepest hurt. He
took the hammering of it.
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And you're gonna see
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through these programs
the miraculous power
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of God that can take the worst hurt
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and problems and turn
them around for the good.
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I love that.
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And he sure does.
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I love that Dru.
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Right, because it says
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that all things work together good.
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They're for good to them that love God
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and are called to his purpose.
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That's right. - And he absolutely keeps his promises.
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Yes, he does.
He does.
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So, Dru, let's talk about
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some amazing experiences
that you've had in life.
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And that was, I mean, with Jesus many,
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but having this grandfather, tell us,
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tell us some more about this amazing man.
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Well, I had married into
a Russian Jewish family,
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so I always say they
had no idea it was going
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to hit them when this
Gentile, Pentecostal, Tulsa,
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Oklahoma girl marries into that family.
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But God had a plan. He really did.
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And I wanna say this too - is I invited Armand, Dr.
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Armand Hammer, he started
Occidental Petroleum,
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started trade with Russia.
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That's why it's so phenomenal to me
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how God has plucked us small
town kids from Oklahoma.
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And here we are in Moscow
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and we get to minister the
gospel together is just
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so outstanding to me.
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But sometimes when you minister
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to people you don't even know
if you're getting through.
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So I used to invite Ormond to our home every Sunday
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for Sunday supper as a southerners call it.
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Yes. And he would come over
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and I bought him a spirit filled Bible.
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And I would mark like in Isaiah 53
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and all the prophetic words of the coming Messiah.
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Because I think too, when you minister
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to different people from
different religions, you have
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to understand where they're coming from
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so you know how to reach them.
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So I just started talking to Armand about how Jesus was
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that sacrificial lamb
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because in the Old Testament,
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God always required a blood atonement as
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the covering of sin.
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And they would go out and sacrifice the perfect, blameless,
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spotless lamb.
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So I asked Armand one time, I said, well,
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you're not going out in the backyard and sacrificing a lamb.
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So what do you do today as
your atonement for your sin?
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And he was never really religious,
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but he said, we have a day where we fast.
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And I was like, well,
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but that isn't exactly what God required.
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But I told him, I said, that
is why we call Jesus the Lamb
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of God because we believe he became that atonement for us.
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And he was the only sinless man.
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But the point is, is
I learned to read him.
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So when he would come
over, he would come over
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to watch the children play and
we would eat lunch together.
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But I would just slowly sneak
it in. You know what I mean?
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Yes. - But I also read
him and I knew when to stop
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because you can't overwhelm people
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and certainly brilliant
people like he was.
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You can't pound them
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with the gospel like I've
been known to do before.
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I just want people to get it so badly.
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I know. - So it was so amazing, Denise
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because when his wife died, he was 92 years old
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and he was so heartbroken
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because Francis' his wife, went everywhere with him.
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And she was Catholic.
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And we used to talk about
the Lord and she loved Jesus.
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So when she died, he called me
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and he said, Dru, you
have something I don't have
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and I need that right now.
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Right. And I was like, well, wow.
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I said - Armand, the only thing I have
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that you don't have is
Jesus as my Messiah.
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And he said, I know. Would
you call your father?
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Because my dad would
always minister to him.
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And he loved my parents.
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He invited them to
everything which showed us
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that he was drawn to what we had
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because there was no reason
for him to invite my parents.
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No. - you know, to all the different events.
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But he obviously saw something in my parents
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because my dad would witness to him as well.
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So he, they went and prayed with him
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and oh, so I said, yes,
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but if they come out,
they're gonna pray with you
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to accept Jesus.
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And he said, I know I'm ready - 92 years old.
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So they went, Michael and my dad went
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and held hands with
Armand in his living room
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and they prayed the sinner's prayer.
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And all of a sudden, Armand began weeping. Oh.
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And afterwards my dad said,
Armand, what happened?
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And he said, God gave me a vision.
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Like, is that amazing? Yes.
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And my dad said, what was the vision?
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He said, I saw this golden staircase.
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And Jesus and Francis
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And I was halfway there
on a golden staircase.
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And he died within six months.
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He actually went into a
coma like a couple months
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after that and never really
regained consciousness except
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for, there's one other story in my book.
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But I mean, it's really remarkable.
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And here's what I wanna say.
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Even if you minister to family members
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and you don't think they're listening,
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God's word never returns void.
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It just doesn't. Mm. So he
was listening that whole time.
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But I think you have to pray for wisdom.
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You know how to approach each person
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because you have to approach
each person differently.
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And I'm sure my two
sons will say, well mom,
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you didn't use much of
that wisdom with us.
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'cause I was like, the
hammer just pounding it in my
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kids. Oh,
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Now, okay, now there's a question. - Okay.
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Tell us about your wonderful sons. I
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know you have 2-wonderful
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sons.
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I do. I do. So my older son is Armie.
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And this is kind of a funny story
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because I was in the hospital giving birth to Armie
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and we were not gonna name him Armand
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because that's such an adult name.
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So we were gonna name him Alexander Armand
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because Michael was Michael Armand.
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And that Hammer, you know, there's very few family members.
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Armand only had one child.
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And I was in the hospital and
got a telegram from Russia.
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I mean, is that hilarious? And
it was from Armand of course.
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And he said, I heard you just gave birth
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to my great grandson.
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It would mean the world to
me if you'd name him Armand.
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And I was like, well
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that actually wasn't what I was thinking.
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And it's hard to call a child Armand.
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So we - Armie just stuck.
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My sister gave my sister Lisa said, call him Armie.
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That's such a cute name.
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So he is an actor
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and he was the Lone Ranger with Johnny Depp.
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And he's been in a lot of movies
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and he's had, he's been hammered,
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but I can see God changing his heart.
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And then my younger son,
Victor, I said, I have a left
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and a right side of the
brain arm's this creative
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and the actor walks into a room
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and just, you know, is
so funny and outgoing.
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And my other son Victor, is Mr.
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Businessman
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and he is a vice president
of one of the vice presidents
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of Morgan Stanley.
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And brilliant with numbers,
that's just his calling. Wow.
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So they're both just amazing
boys. I love 'em so much.
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So Dru, tell us just a
little bit of, you know,
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what your grandfather did for Russia?
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Oh, it's really, you know,
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I'm not even sure I even
totally understand the impact,
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but he literally came here
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and saw that there was a
need when he was 23 years old
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and saw that the people were starving to death in the euros.
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They'd had one of the worst winters they'd ever had in the
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history of Russia.
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And this 23-year-old kid graduated from medical school at
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Columbia and had turned his father's pharmaceutical company
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around and sold it and made a million dollars.
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And he and his father both, they,
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they each had a million
dollars in this company
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or made a million dollars
and it was all Armand.
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He did it when he was in medical
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school, if you can believe it.
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So it's one of these deals
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where it makes zero
sense in the world size.
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But at 23, a kid outta medical
school gets an appointment
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with Vladimir Lenin and goes in
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and says, your people
are starving to death.
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We have a bumper crop in the United States
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and I have a million dollars.
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They're selling it for a dollar a bushel.
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I can buy a million bushels
of wheat and ship it over
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and save the Russian
people from starvation
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and in exchange for furs and antiquities
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and priceless things.
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And he basically started
trade with Russia.
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And for 67 years, he was the liaison
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between every world leader
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and every leader in Russia.
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And I was really blown away
when you all invited me
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to speak at the National Prayer Breakfast.
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And I had the privilege of saying how Armand came to Jesus,
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a Russian Jew, and there's
not anyone in this world
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that can't be saved, which
is proof right there.
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And a gentleman spoke after me
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and he said, my family, we
were some of the recipients.
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And I bet Armand saved $10
million from starvation.
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So that 10 million people
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Oh isn't God amazing.
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But here's the thing; when Armand did that,
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he didn't know Jesus.
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he was even religious,
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but I always think of him
in that verse that says,
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we are blessed to be a blessing.
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So as he was doing this,
rather he benefited from it
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or not, which he did obviously,
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but he saved millions
of people from starving.
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And what does God say?
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What did he, what did
Jesus say to Peter, Peter,
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do you love me?
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Feed my sheep?
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because I believe it's
physically, mentally,
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and spiritually we're
supposed to feed God sheep.
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And Armand was doing
that, not even knowing
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that he was in the will of God.
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And he was doing what
Jesus commanded us to do.
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he blessed Armand all throughout his life
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and really did remarkable things
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that very few men could
single handedly do.
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Well. Okay, so Dru,
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like I know he had something
to do with pencils.
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a difference in the Russian
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history and saved all the people, then Lenin said,
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you may have any concession that you want.
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And he said the pencils were horrible
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and they didn't write well on paper
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and they didn't know how to
manufacture pencils in Russia.
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your hands on them.
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So he goes to France
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because this was the oldest
pencil factory in the world
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and hires away the
president of the company.
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I'm sure they weren't happy about that.
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And he brings over the machinery
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and started a pencil factory
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and made them affordable
for children to learn
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because back then they were really doing a push for children
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to read and write and be literate
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because there was a really high percentage
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of illiteracy in Russia at that time
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because a lot of them were
working out in the fields
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and they didn't have the
opportunity to be in school.
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So again, even though he
benefited financially,
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he always thought, what can
I do to help the people?
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Wow. And that's the way
God wants us to think.
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And when we do, when we think
like that, in other words,
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it's not just, well God, what can you do for
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me?
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I wanna be blessed, I wanna be successful.
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He was always thinking of others.
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so over abundantly that the things
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that he had done throughout history is really mind boggling.
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Well now Dru, so him being
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involved with all these
other nations brought him,
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brought you into audience,
was pretty interesting people.
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Yes. We tell us about that.
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Well, one of 'em,
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which I people love this
story is Princess Di.
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And when I've met her, I
had met her several times,
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but rightfully so, she was very guarded.
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And - I would never even
be speaking about this if she
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was still alive, but it's a God story.
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And she was very guarded
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because people would sell
articles you can imagine
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and make a lot of money if
they had good scoop on her.
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So, you know, we, they
always kind of put us next
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to each other because
when you're paying $50,000
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for a plate at some VIP Reception
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or dinner, you know, you're there with 70
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and 80 year olds that can afford that.
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You're not in your twenties like we were.
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So they, Armand would
always kind of put us to
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where we could visit a little bit.
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But the last time I met her,
I was so taken back, first
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of all, 'cause she walked right up to me.
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It was at the National Opera at DC
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and it was a VVIP reception.
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So there were very few people in the room.
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And she walked right up to me
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and said, Hello Dru, it's so nice to see you again.
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And you know, I'm a kid from Oklahoma.
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And I'm like, wait a minute,
does my mind even, you know,
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understand that Princess Di just walked up
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to me and called me by name.
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It was just kind of a funny moment.
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I was like, yes, that is a
okay. And that just happened.
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That's a funny moment.
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Right. So she said, I want
you to know how sorry I am
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that Francis has passed away
because she knew Francis
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and Armand very well.
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'cause he was like a
godfather to Prince Charles.
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So we had gone to a
lot of events with them
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And Francis was
Armand's
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Wife was Armand's wife.
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Yes. Thank you for, and he
Loved her very
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Much Loved her.
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Yes, they were, they
went everywhere together.
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So she said, I'm so sorry
to hear about Francis.
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She was such a lovely woman.
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And then she kind of leaned in
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and kind of pulled me in closer
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and she goes, I just have to ask you.
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Did you get her jewels?
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And I started laughing
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'cause I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.
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I mean, you have a vault of royal jewels
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and you're asking me if I got Francis' jewels.
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But God in that moment gave me an
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opportunity to minister to her.
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And I said, Princess Di,
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I did get some of them, but guess what?
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She didn't take them with her.
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I go - You know what she took with her
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is her relationship with Jesus.
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And that's the only thing we
take with us into eternity.
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So again, at that moment it was like, that's all you can say
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because you know, then she
had to go, oh yes, I, I just,
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it I had that little
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moment.
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Oh, it was a very powerful moment.
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Yes. So
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after that, it came out probably, I would say 3
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or 4 years later,
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that she had suffered
from eating disorders.
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And she found out that
Prince Charles was in love
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with Camilla and there were
struggles in her marriage.
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And she tried to throw herself downstairs
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and commit suicide at one point.
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And the Lord spoke to me.
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And that's when you can have everything
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and yet have nothing.
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It's nothing if you don't have the Lord.
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So for 5 or 6 nights I couldn't sleep.
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And the Lord kept saying,
write her a letter,
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because I think I was exercising anorexic
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'cause I would run marathons.
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And I worked out every day
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and it kind of became an idol in my life.
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Oh, okay. 'cause I was
always a tennis player
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and always into sports.
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But you know, it just kind of,
it consumed me, if you will.
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And that was the year, seven
years in that I found out
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that there were
infidelities in my marriage.
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So I didn't wanna sound
presumptuous to her,
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but the Lord kept saying,
write her a letter
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and tell her I'm there for her.
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So I wrote her.
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And I have to say, I'm not even sure what was in the letter
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because the Holy Spirit just took over.
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But I was so exhausted from not sleeping
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that you finally go, okay,
okay God, I'll write her.
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Oh.
So I wrote her a letter
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and I remember a little bit of it,
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but it was like a 4-page handwritten letter.
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And I don't remember most of it
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'cause it just flowed from the Holy Spirit.
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And I said, Princess Di, I would never be presumptuous
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to say, I understand
what you're going through
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because you're on a world stage
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where everybody knows your problems.
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Exactly. - But it's hard
enough to go through it alone.
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And I have gone through
many of the similar things
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that you are going through.
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And I just want you to
know that Jesus loves you.
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He is there for you.
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He is waiting for you to
invite him into your heart
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as your Lord and Savior.
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And I just went through the
sinner's prayer with her
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and told her how I'm praying for her,
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you know, and on and on.
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And I called Armand's assistant, Florence, who was amazing.
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She worked for him for years and years.
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And I said, Florence, this
is embarrassing to ask,
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but can I have Princess Di's private residence address -
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'cause I wanted make sure it got there.
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Right. - And I thought - Well, God gave me this
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opportunity, so why not go
through the right approaches.
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So, but it was so funny
'cause when I sealed it
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and went to the post office, you have
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to get an international stamp.
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And I'm like, oh my gosh,
this postmaster's gonna go.
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Really? And you think this is
gonna get to her, don't you?
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Right.
And you know,
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I'm thinking I probably look
like a child sending a letter
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off to Santa Claus with, you know, my request for Christmas.
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But I mailed it and slept like a baby.
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And I'm not saying that I'm the only one
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that ever ministered to her,
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but there couldn't have
been a lot of people.
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I mean, I don't know. I
pray that there were a lot
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of people, but I do know
that I was one of them
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because God put me in that opportunity.
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And the night that she was in the car accident,
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I was telling Rick this.
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I said, you know, I really pondered.
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I said, God, she didn't die immediately
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and your words never return void.
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So I kept praying, God,
let your words not mine.
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Let your truth reverberate
in her life, in her heart.
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Jesus. Before you take her home.
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And by the way, I have to add this,
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she's not any more
important in God's size than
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anybody else.
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And one of my joys is, we
had a couple living with us
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for years, Bertan Noy.
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And they helped raise our
children and worked for us.
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And we had the privilege
of leading them to Jesus.
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And that was every bit of a joy as Princess Di
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because in the eyes of God.
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Amen. - No one's a princess.
We're all children of God.
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Yes - and they now have a son, Jesse, that is,
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if he's not a brilliant pastor,
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world leader, I would be shocked.
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But to watch their family just open up
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like a butterfly.
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Yes. - Is is just as important is because the gospel
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Is the gospel.
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It's for everybody. It
is for everybody. Yes.
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The blood that poured
off of Jesus' body Yes.
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Was for everybody. Yes.
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His suffering in hell was for everybody.
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Yes.
Everybody.
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So people love hearing the story about Princess Di
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because it is
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a fascinating story.
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But if there's anyone listening that doesn't know Jesus
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as their Lord and Savior, you
are every bit as important
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as Princess Di in God's eyes.
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And he leaves the 99
for the one. Yes. Yes.
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And it's so simple.
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You just say, Jesus,
forgive me of my sins.
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Because the price that he paid
that you just spoke about.
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Yes. Yes.
On that cross
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Yes.
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Was the atonement of our sins. Yes.
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So we can have access to Jesus.
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Yes. - And then all we have to do is say,
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Jesus come into our hearts
as our Lord and Savior.
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And he promises us that from that moment,
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we will spend an eternity with him
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and we can have heaven on earth because he lives within us.
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Amen. Amen. Dru, we're outta time.
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Stay with us and we're gonna come right back
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and pray with you.
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Every heart gets crushed by this world
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sometimes. We all experience pain, fear,
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loss, and attack.
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But as believers, we have hope in the fact
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that God is still powerful
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and he's always finding ways to equip
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and use us to touch those around us.
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In her series, From Broken Places to Beautiful Grace,
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Denise Renner and her guest, Dru Hammer,
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share personal stories to encourage you
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with the incredible ways God moves in
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and through broken lives.
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You'll hear stories about God's perfect unexpected planning:
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The power of a willing heart: The path to physical
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and emotional healing.
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This heartfelt 5-part series is available in digital
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and physical formats starting at just $11.
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In addition to this teaching series,
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we are also offering you the book, Hammered - by Dru Hammer.
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In this earnest memoir,
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Dru shares details from
her incredible messy life
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to encourage you that even
in the darkest moments,
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God is moving to bring
healing to broken hearts.
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You can purchase 'Hammered' today for $19.
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Don't miss this special offer: the series from Broken Places
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to Beautiful Grace and the book, Hammered by Dru Hammer.
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Visit renner.org to order. Call the number on your screen
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or scan the QR code
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now. Call or go online today.
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Wasn't that amazing?
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And I know that you that are listening
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and you haven't made Jesus
the Lord of your life,
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and you don't know if you are gonna go to heaven
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if you died today - you can know that right now.
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And Dru, I want you to look in that camera
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and I want you to lead them in a prayer.
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I'd be honored. I'd be honored.
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Well, we 1st wanna come to the throne room by asking Jesus
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to forgive us because he paid
that price as our atonement.
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So just say with me, Jesus,
forgive me of my sins.
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Jesus, forgive me of my sin.
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Come into my heart. Come into my
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Heart
As my Lord and Savior.
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As my Lord and Savior.
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And from this day forward and from
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This day forward,
I will live my life for you.
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I will live my life for you.
Amen.
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Amen. You may say,
that seems too simple.
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Well, Jesus did all the work.
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Yes. - All he asked us
to do is to believe on him
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and to give him our life
just like you just prayed.
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So please let us know what God's doing in your life.
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If you prayed that prayer, please let us know
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because we wanna send you something.
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We wanna pray with you, we
wanna connect with you, amen.
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So that you can grow in your faith.
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Dru, thank you so much for
being with me. Thank you for
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Having me.
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Thank, it's been an honor
you so much. It's been a
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blessing to be with you and,
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and I wanna see you on the next program.
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If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior
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and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life
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Jesus has to give you.
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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,
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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. Wash away my sin
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and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
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for the rest of my life.
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Amen.
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If you just prayed the
prayer of salvation with us,
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would you please let us know by going
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to renner.org/salvation?
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We would love to connect with you.