WEBVTT 00:00:09.767 --> 00:00:11.367 REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HEY GUYS, WELCOME BACK TO THE PODCAST. 00:00:11.467 --> 00:00:14.467 I AM JOINED HERE WITH MARCUS ROGERS. 00:00:14.567 --> 00:00:15.833 CAN'T BELIEVE IT. 00:00:15.933 --> 00:00:17.633 AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU WERE A PASTOR 00:00:17.733 --> 00:00:19.267 BECAUSE I KNOW ABOUT YOU THROUGH LIKE YOUR ONLINE 00:00:19.367 --> 00:00:20.700 CONTENT. 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:22.467 HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD A CHURCH FOR? 00:00:22.567 --> 00:00:24.900 MARCUS ROGERS: 2018. WE STARTED WITH LIKE SOME SMALL MEETINGS 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:27.267 AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THE 00:00:27.367 --> 00:00:28.800 GARAGE, RENTING BUILDINGS. 00:00:28.900 --> 00:00:30.133 AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE BOUGHT A BUILDING. 00:00:30.233 --> 00:00:31.334 WE'VE JUST BEEN GOING EVER SINCE. 00:00:31.434 --> 00:00:32.434 REBECCA: THAT'S A BIG DEAL. 00:00:32.534 --> 00:00:33.867 CONGRATULATIONS. 00:00:33.967 --> 00:00:34.500 MARCUS: THANK YOU. 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:35.800 REBECCA: THAT'S AWESOME. 00:00:35.900 --> 00:00:37.900 ARE YOU NONDENOMINATIONAL OR...? 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:39.067 MARCUS: YEAH, PRETTY MUCH YEAH. 00:00:39.167 --> 00:00:40.734 WE JUST WE TELL PEOPLE WE BELIEVE THE BIBLE FROM THE 00:00:40.834 --> 00:00:42.867 FRONT TO THE BACK, EVERYTHING IN IT. 00:00:42.967 --> 00:00:44.733 AND EITHER YOU'RE FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND LED BY 00:00:44.833 --> 00:00:46.400 THE HOLY SPIRIT OR YOU'RE NOT. 00:00:46.500 --> 00:00:47.467 THAT'S WHAT I LOOK FOR. 00:00:47.567 --> 00:00:47.900 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:49.000 THAT'S GOOD. 00:00:49.100 --> 00:00:49.867 THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS RIGHT 00:00:49.967 --> 00:00:50.967 THERE. 00:00:51.067 --> 00:00:52.500 WELL, I AND I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:55.367 WATCHING YOU KNOW THE PERSON ON THE SCREEN, BUT 00:00:55.467 --> 00:00:58.734 I THINK IT'S NOW TIME TO GET TO KNOW THE PERSON 00:00:58.834 --> 00:00:59.900 BEHIND THE PERSON ON THE SCREEN. 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:02.600 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT LET'S TALK 00:01:02.700 --> 00:01:03.700 ABOUT YOUR STORY. 00:01:03.800 --> 00:01:05.501 I NEVER EVEN HEARD IT UNTIL TODAY AND I THOUGHT 00:01:05.601 --> 00:01:07.367 IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. 00:01:07.467 --> 00:01:09.767 SO WE'LL GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO HOW YOUR PARENTS 00:01:09.867 --> 00:01:13.534 MET, AND YOU CAN KIND OF BUILD IT OFF OF THERE. 00:01:13.634 --> 00:01:15.267 AND I CAN JUST ASK QUESTIONS. 00:01:15.367 --> 00:01:16.500 MARCUS: FOR SURE. 00:01:16.600 --> 00:01:19.434 MY MOM IS GERMAN AND MY DAD'S IN THE HE WAS IN THE 00:01:19.534 --> 00:01:22.067 MILITARY AND HE WAS FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS. 00:01:22.167 --> 00:01:24.467 AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE HE WAS OVERSEAS, HE MET HER, 00:01:24.567 --> 00:01:25.867 I DON'T KNOW, HE WAS CLUBBING OR SOMETHING. 00:01:25.967 --> 00:01:28.667 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WAS DOING, BUT THEY THEY MET 00:01:28.767 --> 00:01:33.001 AND THEY HAD ME, THEY GOT MARRIED AND THEN WE MOVED 00:01:33.101 --> 00:01:34.533 TO LOUISIANA. 00:01:34.633 --> 00:01:37.867 AND SO WE'RE DOWN THERE AND MY MOM GOT SAVED WHILE 00:01:37.967 --> 00:01:39.800 WE WERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE DOOR KNOCKING AND 00:01:39.900 --> 00:01:40.400 THINGS LIKE THAT. 00:01:40.500 --> 00:01:41.534 SO SHE GOT SAVED. 00:01:41.634 --> 00:01:42.967 REBECCA: THANK GOD IT WAS CHRISTIANS AND NOT LIKE 00:01:43.067 --> 00:01:44.067 JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. 00:01:44.167 --> 00:01:45.400 MARCUS: THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BAD. 00:01:45.500 --> 00:01:47.434 YOU KNOW, I THINK MICHAEL JACKSON AND THEM WERE JEHOVAH'S 00:01:47.534 --> 00:01:48.367 WITNESSES. 00:01:48.467 --> 00:01:50.267 NO CHRISTMAS, NO NOTHING, NO WHATEVER. 00:01:50.367 --> 00:01:52.734 BUT IT WAS A BUNCH OF OLDER LADIES TOO THAT WAS 00:01:52.834 --> 00:01:53.867 SO CRAZY. 00:01:53.967 --> 00:01:57.167 THEY WERE OUT THERE PROBABLY PUSHING 50, 60 AND 00:01:57.267 --> 00:01:58.901 THEY WERE STILL OUT THERE EVANGELIZING. 00:01:59.001 --> 00:02:00.167 SO THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. 00:02:00.267 --> 00:02:01.767 LIKE FOR ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE 00:02:01.867 --> 00:02:03.500 WATCHING THIS, LIKE THERE'S NO EXCUSE. 00:02:03.600 --> 00:02:05.400 SOULS ARE THE HEARTBEAT OF GOD. 00:02:05.500 --> 00:02:07.767 THAT'S WHAT GOD CARES MORE ABOUT THAN ANYTHING ELSE, 00:02:07.867 --> 00:02:10.767 MORE THAN YOUR PODCAST, YOUR TALENTS, YOUR LIKES, 00:02:10.867 --> 00:02:11.900 YOUR VIEWS. 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:13.667 IF YOU'RE NOT WINNING SOULS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST 00:02:13.767 --> 00:02:14.634 IT'S JUST NOISE, YOU KNOW? 00:02:14.734 --> 00:02:15.967 AND THAT'S WHAT GOD CARES ABOUT. 00:02:16.067 --> 00:02:19.000 SO YEAH, MY MOM GOT SAVED, GOT US IN THE CHURCH, 00:02:19.100 --> 00:02:22.233 PRETTY MUCH GREW UP IN CHURCH MY WHOLE LIFE. 00:02:22.333 --> 00:02:25.267 REBECCA: WHICH I MEAN, THEM PREACHING TO YOUR MOM 00:02:25.367 --> 00:02:28.033 WOULD CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF YOUR WHOLE 00:02:28.133 --> 00:02:28.701 LIFE. 00:02:28.801 --> 00:02:29.233 MARCUS: EVERYTHING. 00:02:29.333 --> 00:02:30.367 EVERYTHING. 00:02:30.467 --> 00:02:32.201 AND IT'S A SEED, YOU KNOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S 00:02:32.301 --> 00:02:33.301 ANOTHER ASPECT. 00:02:33.401 --> 00:02:36.867 NEVER UNDERESTIMATE LIKE THE POWER OF, YOU KNOW, 00:02:36.967 --> 00:02:38.301 WORDS AND LETTING GOD USE YOU. 00:02:38.401 --> 00:02:39.334 YOU NEVER KNOW. 00:02:39.434 --> 00:02:40.634 YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE FISHERMEN. 00:02:40.734 --> 00:02:41.800 YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU FISH. 00:02:41.900 --> 00:02:43.333 AND SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK, WELL, NOBODY WANTS 00:02:43.433 --> 00:02:46.400 TO HEAR MY TESTIMONY, YOU KNOW, WHO AM I TO WITNESS? 00:02:46.500 --> 00:02:47.500 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A BIBLE SCHOLAR. 00:02:47.600 --> 00:02:49.467 GOD'S JUST LOOKING FOR SOMEONE THAT'S WILLING. 00:02:49.567 --> 00:02:51.400 THE BIBLE SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HARVEST IS 00:02:51.500 --> 00:02:53.267 PLENTY, BUT THE LABORERS ARE FEW. 00:02:53.367 --> 00:02:55.300 SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYBODY. 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.100 THERE'S SOULS THAT ARE AROUND ALL OF US THAT, YOU 00:02:58.200 --> 00:02:59.200 KNOW WHAT? 00:02:59.300 --> 00:02:59.933 THERE'S PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN REACH THAT I CAN'T 00:03:00.033 --> 00:03:01.133 REACH. 00:03:01.233 --> 00:03:02.067 AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS, THAT 00:03:02.167 --> 00:03:03.800 THEY CAN REACH, THAT WE CAN'T REACH. 00:03:03.900 --> 00:03:05.533 GOD'S JUST LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO'S WILLING. 00:03:05.633 --> 00:03:06.833 AND IF YOU'RE WILLING, THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL GIVE YOU 00:03:06.933 --> 00:03:09.167 THE WORDS THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, 00:03:09.267 --> 00:03:11.300 WHATEVER YOU NEED IN THAT MOMENT TO WIN THE PERSON. 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.634 REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD, THAT'S SUCH A GOOD WORD. 00:03:13.734 --> 00:03:15.434 SO YOUR MOM GETS SAVED. 00:03:15.534 --> 00:03:19.501 THIS IS IN LOUISIANA, AND SHE ENDS UP BACK IN THE 00:03:19.601 --> 00:03:20.634 VIRGIN ISLANDS? 00:03:20.734 --> 00:03:21.767 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:03:21.867 --> 00:03:24.267 SO MY DAD, HE GETS OUT OF THE MILITARY AND HE LIKE, 00:03:24.367 --> 00:03:25.767 HEY, I'M GOING TO GO BACK HOME. 00:03:25.867 --> 00:03:26.800 THAT'S WHERE HE'S FROM. 00:03:26.900 --> 00:03:29.834 SO WE WERE LIVING IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, MAN. 00:03:29.934 --> 00:03:31.100 THE HURRICANES WENT THROUGH A COUPLE 00:03:31.200 --> 00:03:32.167 HURRICANES DOWN THERE. 00:03:32.267 --> 00:03:35.434 THAT WAS LIKE A CRAZY EXPERIENCE JUST TO LIKE, 00:03:35.534 --> 00:03:36.634 BE AN ACTUAL HURRICANE. 00:03:36.734 --> 00:03:38.233 I REMEMBER MY MY POPS. 00:03:38.333 --> 00:03:39.767 SHE WAS SO CRAZY. 00:03:39.867 --> 00:03:42.034 ONE TIME WE KNEW A HURRICANE WAS COMING AND 00:03:42.134 --> 00:03:43.267 WE LIVED LIKE, PRETTY. 00:03:43.367 --> 00:03:45.334 WE REALLY LIVED IN THE JUNGLE, ACTUALLY. 00:03:45.434 --> 00:03:47.767 AND HE WAS LIKE, I WANT YOU TO GO UP THERE TO THE 00:03:47.867 --> 00:03:48.667 STORE. 00:03:48.767 --> 00:03:49.434 WE'RE GOING TO BUY SOME ICE CREAM. 00:03:49.534 --> 00:03:51.567 AND THE WIND WAS ALREADY BLOWING. 00:03:51.667 --> 00:03:53.501 AND BY THE TIME WE WERE GETTING BACK, IT WAS LIKE 00:03:53.601 --> 00:03:54.967 IT FELT LIKE THE WIND WAS KIND OF TAKING US OFF THE 00:03:55.067 --> 00:03:57.100 GROUND A LITTLE BIT, LIKE WE WERE LIKE LITTLE KIDS. 00:03:57.200 --> 00:03:57.734 SO. 00:03:57.834 --> 00:03:58.801 BUT HE WANTED ICE CREAM. 00:03:58.901 --> 00:04:01.134 SO, YOU KNOW, WE WENT ON THE MISSION FOR HIM AND 00:04:01.234 --> 00:04:03.700 YEAH, TWO HURRICANES I LIVED THROUGH WOKE UP WITH 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:05.533 A TARANTULA ON MY FACE. 00:04:05.633 --> 00:04:07.933 YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS IT WAS CRAZY SEEING THE BOATS 00:04:08.033 --> 00:04:10.267 COME OUT THE WATER, GET THROWN INTO THE HOUSES, 00:04:10.367 --> 00:04:10.934 ALL OF THAT. 00:04:11.034 --> 00:04:12.767 IT WAS IT WAS PRETTY BAD. 00:04:12.867 --> 00:04:15.501 AND LONG STORY SHORT, MY MOM AND MY DAD, THEY HAD 00:04:15.601 --> 00:04:16.667 SOME STUFF GOING ON. 00:04:16.767 --> 00:04:19.533 AND SO SHE FELT THE LORD RELEASED HER TO LEAVE 00:04:19.633 --> 00:04:21.367 BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AND. 00:04:21.467 --> 00:04:22.633 REBECCA: BECAUSE HE CHEATED ON HER. 00:04:22.733 --> 00:04:25.300 MARCUS: CHEATED ON HER, ABUSE, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. 00:04:25.400 --> 00:04:26.701 REBECCA: DID YOU KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE YOU WERE 00:04:26.801 --> 00:04:27.934 REALLY YOUNG. 00:04:28.034 --> 00:04:29.067 MARCUS: I HAD A PRETTY GOOD RELATIONSHIP. 00:04:29.167 --> 00:04:30.501 I DO HAVE THIS ONE 00:04:30.601 --> 00:04:32.533 LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW THEY SAY LIKE CORE MEMORY OF, 00:04:32.633 --> 00:04:34.867 LIKE WALKING INTO WHAT I THINK WAS SOMETHING. 00:04:34.967 --> 00:04:37.467 BUT I WAS VERY YOUNG, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:04:37.567 --> 00:04:39.634 MY MOTHER'S LAYING THERE CRYING AND STUFF LIKE 00:04:39.734 --> 00:04:41.033 THAT, AND I'M TRYING TO COMFORT HER. 00:04:41.133 --> 00:04:42.734 BUT I WAS LIKE, SUPER YOUNG. 00:04:42.834 --> 00:04:44.134 BUT THAT IMAGE IS IN MY MIND. 00:04:44.234 --> 00:04:46.833 I DID SEE THEM ARGUE FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT, YOU 00:04:46.933 --> 00:04:49.200 KNOW, THERE WAS SOME THERE WAS SOME OTHER STUFF TOO. 00:04:49.300 --> 00:04:51.467 YOU KNOW, MY DAD WOULD TAKE ME DIFFERENT PLACES 00:04:51.567 --> 00:04:53.167 AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE YOUR COUSINS OR, YOU 00:04:53.267 --> 00:04:56.600 KNOW, AND LIKE, I REMEMBER ONE TIME, I'M SORRY, POPS, 00:04:56.700 --> 00:04:59.834 I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, TELL THE TRUTH. 00:04:59.934 --> 00:05:01.501 HE TOOK ME TO THIS ONE. 00:05:01.601 --> 00:05:03.700 I WAS GOING TO SAY, SPOT THIS ONE HOUSE. 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.100 AND HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SIT DOWN AND PLAY THIS 00:05:05.200 --> 00:05:06.201 VIDEO GAME. 00:05:06.301 --> 00:05:07.500 SO I'M SITTING THERE PLAYING SONIC, AND HE JUST 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:10.200 KIND OF DISAPPEARS AND THEN COMES BACK, YOU KNOW, 00:05:10.300 --> 00:05:12.767 AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU GET OLDER IT'S LIKE, 00:05:12.867 --> 00:05:14.367 OH, THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING ON, YOU KNOW. 00:05:14.467 --> 00:05:15.734 REBECCA: OH MY GOODNESS. 00:05:15.834 --> 00:05:17.167 MARCUS: IT WAS REALLY BAD. 00:05:17.267 --> 00:05:18.200 SO YEAH. 00:05:18.300 --> 00:05:20.001 BUT I'M YOU KNOW PLAYING SONIC I'M LOCKED IN. 00:05:20.101 --> 00:05:21.934 AND THEN YOU REALIZE LOOKING BACK WHEN YOU GET 00:05:22.034 --> 00:05:24.400 OLDER LIKE, OH MAN, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS DOING. 00:05:24.500 --> 00:05:27.334 AND SO MY MOM LEFT AND MY MOM IS A PRAYER WARRIOR. 00:05:27.434 --> 00:05:29.134 SO SHE SAID GOD TOLD HER TO GO TO CHICAGO. 00:05:29.234 --> 00:05:31.633 WE HAD NEVER BEEN TO CHICAGO, SO SHE JUST 00:05:31.733 --> 00:05:33.800 GRABBED ME OUT OF SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. 00:05:33.900 --> 00:05:35.900 WE WENT STRAIGHT TO THE AIRPORT, LANDED IN 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:40.434 CHICAGO, DIDN'T HAVE WE HAVE NO FAMILY IN AMERICA. 00:05:40.534 --> 00:05:41.700 AND SHE SAID, GOD SAID GO. 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:42.800 SO WE WENT. 00:05:42.900 --> 00:05:44.233 SHE MET SOME LADY WHO HAPPENED TO WORK FOR LIKE 00:05:44.333 --> 00:05:45.634 A WOMEN'S SHELTER. 00:05:45.734 --> 00:05:48.033 AND THEN THAT WOMAN WAS LIKE, HEY, COME WITH ME. 00:05:48.133 --> 00:05:50.701 SO WE WENT TO THE SHELTER AND FROM THERE MY MOM JUST 00:05:50.801 --> 00:05:52.034 WAS GRINDING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:05:52.134 --> 00:05:56.267 SHE STARTED WORKING, WENT TO SCHOOL, GOT HER 00:05:56.367 --> 00:05:58.433 DEGREE, BECAME A TEACHER. 00:05:58.533 --> 00:06:00.301 YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST A WHOLE PROCESS. 00:06:00.401 --> 00:06:01.834 BUT IT WAS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE. 00:06:01.934 --> 00:06:04.067 REBECCA: WAS IT A ROUGH TRANSITION? 00:06:04.167 --> 00:06:05.267 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:06:05.367 --> 00:06:07.067 I WAS CRYING IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE AT FIRST 00:06:07.167 --> 00:06:08.834 I DIDN'T SHE DIDN'T TELL ME WHAT WAS GOING ON. 00:06:08.934 --> 00:06:10.500 SHE JUST CAME AND GOT ME. 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.433 AND SO WHEN WE WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LANDED 00:06:13.533 --> 00:06:16.467 AND WHEN I WAS IN THE SHELTER, I WOULD ASK HER 00:06:16.567 --> 00:06:18.401 EVERY NIGHT, LIKE, WHEN IS MY DAD COMING? 00:06:18.501 --> 00:06:20.534 SHE'S LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, HE'LL MAYBE GET TO YOU 00:06:20.634 --> 00:06:23.501 SOON OR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN EVENTUALLY I ASKED SO 00:06:23.601 --> 00:06:25.533 MANY TIMES I REALIZED, LIKE, YO, THIS DUDE'S NOT 00:06:25.633 --> 00:06:26.801 COMING. 00:06:26.901 --> 00:06:27.767 AND, YOU KNOW, HE NEVER CAME. 00:06:27.867 --> 00:06:29.134 REBECCA: SHE NEVER TOLD YOU? 00:06:29.234 --> 00:06:31.034 MARCUS: NO, WELL, SHE I DON'T THINK SHE WANTED TO PUT 00:06:31.134 --> 00:06:34.134 THAT ON US, LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUR MAYBE THE IMAGE 00:06:34.234 --> 00:06:36.167 WE HAD OF OUR FATHER OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M 00:06:36.267 --> 00:06:37.267 LEAVING HIM OR WHATEVER. 00:06:37.367 --> 00:06:39.267 I KIND OF JUST FIGURED OUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN 00:06:39.367 --> 00:06:41.567 THE LITTLE ARGUMENTS AND THINGS THAT I SAW. 00:06:41.667 --> 00:06:44.501 AND SO, YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE HIM AGAIN UNTIL I THINK I 00:06:44.601 --> 00:06:46.167 WAS LIKE 25, 26. 00:06:46.267 --> 00:06:47.834 SO I WAS LIKE SIX YEARS OLD. 00:06:47.934 --> 00:06:48.534 REBECCA: THAT LONG? 00:06:48.634 --> 00:06:49.767 MARCUS: YEAH, IT WAS LONG. 00:06:49.867 --> 00:06:50.867 REBECCA: DID YOU EVER TALK TO HIM IN BETWEEN THAT TIME? 00:06:50.967 --> 00:06:51.900 MARCUS: NO, NEVER. 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.100 I FOUND HIM ON MYSPACE. 00:06:53.200 --> 00:06:53.934 YEAH. 00:06:54.034 --> 00:06:55.800 REBECCA: ON MYSPACE!? 00:06:55.900 --> 00:06:57.734 MARCUS: HEY, MAN, I THINK YOU'RE MY DAD. 00:06:57.834 --> 00:06:58.434 REBECCA: DID HE RESPOND? 00:06:58.534 --> 00:06:59.334 MARCUS: YEAH HE DID. 00:06:59.434 --> 00:07:00.767 HE WAS LIKE, YEP, YOU'RE MY SON. 00:07:00.867 --> 00:07:01.933 AND THEN. 00:07:02.033 --> 00:07:03.834 YEAH, I FLEW DOWN THERE TO THE ISLANDS AND JUST KIND 00:07:03.934 --> 00:07:04.967 OF CONNECTED WITH HIM. 00:07:05.067 --> 00:07:06.133 AND I'M A BIG BELIEVER. 00:07:06.233 --> 00:07:07.800 THE BIBLE SAYS HONOR YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER, THAT IT 00:07:07.900 --> 00:07:09.233 MAY BE WELL WITH YOU. 00:07:09.333 --> 00:07:12.067 SO WE HAD A CONVERSATION, AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOW BY 00:07:12.167 --> 00:07:13.767 NOW, HE'S AN OLDER MAN. 00:07:13.867 --> 00:07:16.634 SO HE'S VERY APOLOGETIC ABOUT EVERYTHING. 00:07:16.734 --> 00:07:19.501 AND, YOU KNOW, HIS DEMEANOR HAS CHANGED. 00:07:19.601 --> 00:07:21.800 AND SO, YOU KNOW IT WAS A GOOD TALK. 00:07:21.900 --> 00:07:23.534 REBECCA: THAT'S A GOOD WORD THOUGH FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE 00:07:23.634 --> 00:07:24.600 LISTENING. 00:07:24.700 --> 00:07:25.467 BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE EASILY JUST WRITTEN YOUR 00:07:25.567 --> 00:07:28.300 DAD OFF AND, YOU KNOW, BE OFFENDED. 00:07:28.400 --> 00:07:29.567 BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. 00:07:29.667 --> 00:07:30.634 THE BIBLE SAYS FORGIVE. 00:07:30.734 --> 00:07:32.467 THE BIBLE SAYS HONOR NOT BECAUSE NECESSARILY 00:07:32.567 --> 00:07:35.600 THEY'RE DESERVING OF IT, BUT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW GOD 00:07:35.700 --> 00:07:36.801 THAT'S WHAT HE'S ASKED US TO DO. 00:07:36.901 --> 00:07:39.367 AND THERE IS A BLESSING IN HONORING THEM. 00:07:39.467 --> 00:07:41.833 AND I BELIEVE THERE'S EVEN A GENERATIONAL BLESSING. 00:07:41.933 --> 00:07:44.034 AND SO I WOULD JUST I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE 00:07:44.134 --> 00:07:46.467 WHO'S LISTENING, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE HEED FROM YOUR 00:07:46.567 --> 00:07:49.801 STORY AND TO HONOR YOUR PARENTS AND SEE WHAT GOD 00:07:49.901 --> 00:07:51.000 CAN DO THROUGH THAT. 00:07:51.100 --> 00:07:53.367 MARCUS: I WANTED TO KILL HIM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 00:07:53.467 --> 00:07:56.233 SO THE LITTLE THE LITTLE MEMORY THAT I TOLD YOU I 00:07:56.333 --> 00:07:59.267 HAD, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE MY MOM LAYING THERE 00:07:59.367 --> 00:08:01.667 CRYING, LIKE LOOKING KIND OF BEAT UP, YOU KNOW, 00:08:01.767 --> 00:08:03.033 THAT'S WHAT THE MEMORY WAS. 00:08:03.133 --> 00:08:05.400 SO AS I GOT OLDER AND, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING TO MY 00:08:05.500 --> 00:08:07.201 MOM A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SHE'S KIND OF EXPLAINING A 00:08:07.301 --> 00:08:08.634 LITTLE BIT WHAT HAPPENED. 00:08:08.734 --> 00:08:11.034 IT PUT THIS LIKE ANGER TOWARDS MY POPS, LIKE, OH, 00:08:11.134 --> 00:08:12.334 SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY MOM. 00:08:12.434 --> 00:08:13.534 WHATEVER. 00:08:13.634 --> 00:08:14.934 LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA WHOOP YOU OR SOMETHING WHEN 00:08:15.034 --> 00:08:16.100 I SEE YOU. 00:08:16.200 --> 00:08:18.401 BUT BY THE TIME I ACTUALLY DID, YOU KNOW, SEE HIM, 00:08:18.501 --> 00:08:19.800 THE LORD HAD ALREADY DEALT WITH ME. 00:08:19.900 --> 00:08:22.501 AND I HAD A LOT OF GRACE, AND, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST 00:08:22.601 --> 00:08:23.433 LOVED ON HIM, LIKE. 00:08:23.533 --> 00:08:24.167 LIKE CHRIST. 00:08:24.267 --> 00:08:25.101 THAT'S WHAT I TRIED TO DO. 00:08:25.201 --> 00:08:26.133 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:08:26.233 --> 00:08:27.467 IT PROBABLY REALLY MINISTERED TO HIM BECAUSE 00:08:27.567 --> 00:08:29.267 HE PROBABLY WAS LIKE, I DON'T DESERVE THIS, YOU 00:08:29.367 --> 00:08:29.901 KNOW? 00:08:30.001 --> 00:08:30.834 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:08:30.934 --> 00:08:32.867 REBECCA: SO, OKAY, YOU'RE IN CHICAGO. 00:08:32.967 --> 00:08:34.467 YOU MOVED THERE WHEN YOU WERE SIX. 00:08:34.567 --> 00:08:35.600 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:08:35.700 --> 00:08:39.067 REBECCA: AND WHAT WAS LIFE LIKE GROWING UP THERE? 00:08:39.167 --> 00:08:40.167 MARCUS: WE WERE SUPER POOR. 00:08:40.267 --> 00:08:42.634 I MEAN, NAME BRAND CEREAL WAS A TREAT, YOU KNOW, 00:08:42.734 --> 00:08:45.467 LIKE, OH, MAN, WE GET SOME CINNAMON TOAST CRUNCH. 00:08:45.567 --> 00:08:47.600 LIKE, WE'RE READY TO HAVE A PARTY. 00:08:47.700 --> 00:08:48.267 REBECCA: DID YOU FEEL 00:08:48.367 --> 00:08:49.900 PRESSURE AS THE OLDEST? 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:51.101 MARCUS: YEAH, FOR SURE. 00:08:51.201 --> 00:08:53.500 BUT I MEAN, MY MOM, MY MOM WAS WORKING SO HARD, LIKE. 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.967 AND THEN WHEN SHE PULLED US OUT OF SCHOOL, WE WERE 00:08:56.067 --> 00:08:57.867 ALWAYS TOGETHER. 00:08:57.967 --> 00:08:59.767 AND SO WHAT SHE WAS DOING, SHE WAS HOMESCHOOLING US, 00:08:59.867 --> 00:09:02.301 GOING TO SCHOOL, AND SHE WAS RUNNING A FULL TIME 00:09:02.401 --> 00:09:02.833 DAYCARE. 00:09:02.933 --> 00:09:03.434 YEAH. 00:09:03.534 --> 00:09:04.034 REBECCA: SHE WAS RUNNING 00:09:04.134 --> 00:09:04.801 A FULL TIME DAYCARE? 00:09:04.901 --> 00:09:05.967 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:09:06.067 --> 00:09:06.634 SO THERE WAS A LOT OF KIDS IN OUR HOUSE AT ONE POINT 00:09:06.734 --> 00:09:07.734 IN TIME. 00:09:07.834 --> 00:09:08.767 AND SO SHE WAS DOING ALL OF THAT AT THE SAME TIME, 00:09:08.867 --> 00:09:11.301 AND HER DAYCARE WENT TILL MIDNIGHT, YOU KNOW, 00:09:11.401 --> 00:09:12.500 BECAUSE THERE WAS PARENTS AT WORK. 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:14.533 SO THERE'S LIKE KIDS THAT WE GREW UP WITH THAT WE 00:09:14.633 --> 00:09:16.501 ACTUALLY CONSIDER FAMILY BECAUSE THEY WERE WITH US 00:09:16.601 --> 00:09:17.534 ALL THE TIME. 00:09:17.634 --> 00:09:19.034 REBECCA: OH, THAT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF COOL. 00:09:19.134 --> 00:09:19.400 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:09:19.500 --> 00:09:20.301 IT WAS. 00:09:20.401 --> 00:09:21.433 WE STILL COOL WITH THEM TO THIS DAY. 00:09:21.533 --> 00:09:22.067 YEAH. 00:09:22.167 --> 00:09:22.734 REBECCA: THAT'S AWESOME. 00:09:22.834 --> 00:09:23.767 WOW. 00:09:23.867 --> 00:09:24.767 AND SHE WAS I DON'T EVEN YOUR MOM REALLY WAS 00:09:24.867 --> 00:09:25.833 SOMETHING ELSE. 00:09:25.933 --> 00:09:29.567 I MEAN FOUR KIDS, SINGLE MOTHER, HOMESCHOOLING, 00:09:29.667 --> 00:09:32.700 WORKING WENT TO SCHOOL AND GOT A DEGREE LIKE THAT'S 00:09:32.800 --> 00:09:33.867 WILD. 00:09:33.967 --> 00:09:34.667 SO KUDOS TO HER. 00:09:34.767 --> 00:09:35.900 AND SHE WAS PRAYING FOR Y'ALL 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:36.934 ALL THE TIME AS WELL. 00:09:37.034 --> 00:09:37.601 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:09:37.701 --> 00:09:39.567 REBECCA: BUT YOU DID NOT, 00:09:39.667 --> 00:09:42.500 WHAT WAS WERE YOU JUST ALWAYS IN CHURCH LIKE BUT 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.134 YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD? 00:09:44.234 --> 00:09:45.234 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:09:45.334 --> 00:09:46.834 I MEAN AS MUCH AS A KID CAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, 00:09:46.934 --> 00:09:47.934 YOU'RE JUST GOING TO CHURCH, YOU'RE GOING TO 00:09:48.034 --> 00:09:48.867 SUNDAY SCHOOL. 00:09:48.967 --> 00:09:50.534 IT'S LIKE, OH, YEAH, JESUS LOVES ME. 00:09:50.634 --> 00:09:52.500 NOAH'S ARK, DAVID AND GOLIATH. 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:53.900 BUT IT WASN'T LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.033 LIKE MY MOM, SHE'S UP 5:00 IN THE MORNING PRAYING IN 00:09:57.133 --> 00:09:59.267 TONGUES, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THE EVENING, 00:09:59.367 --> 00:10:01.167 PRAYING I WASN'T THERE. 00:10:01.267 --> 00:10:02.333 I'M JUST A KID. 00:10:02.433 --> 00:10:04.334 LIKE, I GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY, PLAY THE DRUMS, DO 00:10:04.434 --> 00:10:05.434 WHATEVER. 00:10:05.534 --> 00:10:06.701 YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TELLING ME TO DO YOUTH CHURCH, 00:10:06.801 --> 00:10:07.900 THAT KIND OF STUFF. 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.900 AND, YOU KNOW, SO THROUGH ALL OF THAT, GROWING UP 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.933 POOR LIKE WE WAS WHEN I WAS POOR, WE WAS POOR. 00:10:14.033 --> 00:10:16.834 I REMEMBER GOING TO THEY HAVE THIS PLACE CALLED 00:10:16.934 --> 00:10:18.001 WHITE CASTLE. 00:10:18.101 --> 00:10:19.367 REBECCA: I KNOW WHITE CASTLE. 00:10:19.467 --> 00:10:21.533 MARCUS: MY MOM, SHE WANTED TO TREAT US AND I GUESS SHE 00:10:21.633 --> 00:10:22.967 HAD LIKE 20 BUCKS OR SOMETHING. 00:10:23.067 --> 00:10:25.700 SO SHE GETS LIKE A 20 PIECE NUGGET THAT THE FOUR 00:10:25.800 --> 00:10:28.200 KIDS ARE GONNA SPLIT LIKE FIVE NUGGETS EACH. 00:10:28.300 --> 00:10:31.834 AND I NEVER FORGET, THESE TWO GUYS STARTED, LIKE, 00:10:31.934 --> 00:10:34.400 MOCKING HER, YOU KNOW, WHILE SHE WAS LIKE, OH, 00:10:34.500 --> 00:10:36.734 YOU'RE GONNA FEED FOUR KIDS WITH 20 NUGGETS? 00:10:36.834 --> 00:10:38.367 AND SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE US SOMETHING 00:10:38.467 --> 00:10:39.733 DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WERE USED TO 00:10:39.833 --> 00:10:42.367 EATING AND, LIKE, THEY MADE FUN OF MY MOM RIGHT 00:10:42.467 --> 00:10:43.533 IN THE RESTAURANT. 00:10:43.633 --> 00:10:45.301 I REMEMBER I WAS PROBABLY LIKE, TEN, AND MY BLOOD IS 00:10:45.401 --> 00:10:46.001 BOILING. 00:10:46.101 --> 00:10:47.267 THESE ARE LIKE GROWN MEN. 00:10:47.367 --> 00:10:50.000 AND IT'S LIKE I WANTED TO PUNCH HIM, STAB HIM OR 00:10:50.100 --> 00:10:51.300 SOMETHING BECAUSE I FELT BAD. 00:10:51.400 --> 00:10:53.267 LIKE I KNEW MY MOM, YOU KNOW, WAS WORKING HARD AND 00:10:53.367 --> 00:10:54.800 SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING 00:10:54.900 --> 00:10:55.834 DIFFERENT. 00:10:55.934 --> 00:10:57.901 AND I NEVER FORGOT THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT 00:10:58.001 --> 00:11:00.633 SHE WENT OUT OF HER WAY, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST FOR 00:11:00.733 --> 00:11:01.667 SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW? 00:11:01.767 --> 00:11:03.601 AND SO SHE SHE WORKED HER BUTT OFF. 00:11:03.701 --> 00:11:06.667 BUT IT DID MAKE ME FEEL LIKE A BURDEN SOMETIMES. 00:11:06.767 --> 00:11:09.533 SO THEN NOT HAVING MY DAD ALWAYS KIND OF BEING LIKE 00:11:09.633 --> 00:11:10.400 THE REJECTS. 00:11:10.500 --> 00:11:14.467 MY MOM IS GERMAN, SO SHE'S WHITE. 00:11:14.567 --> 00:11:15.667 SO, YOU KNOW, BACK THEN IT WAS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT 00:11:15.767 --> 00:11:17.000 DIFFERENT WHEN YOU GREW UP IN THE BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD, 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:18.134 YOUR MOM'S WHITE. 00:11:18.234 --> 00:11:20.901 THERE'S A LOT OF BULLYING, YOU KNOW, AND WE DEALT 00:11:21.001 --> 00:11:23.534 WITH HONESTLY, LIKE RACISM FROM BOTH SIDES AND JUST A 00:11:23.634 --> 00:11:24.501 LOT OF STUFF. 00:11:24.601 --> 00:11:25.901 SO IT WAS ALWAYS JUST LIKE THE REJECTS. 00:11:26.001 --> 00:11:27.867 I'M HAVING TO FIGHT EVERY DAY. 00:11:27.967 --> 00:11:28.767 IT WAS SO BAD. 00:11:28.867 --> 00:11:30.134 THAT'S WHY WE GOT PUT IN HOMESCHOOL. 00:11:30.234 --> 00:11:31.167 REBECCA: DID YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAD TO FIGHT TO PROVE 00:11:31.267 --> 00:11:31.667 YOURSELF? 00:11:31.767 --> 00:11:32.767 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:11:32.867 --> 00:11:34.367 AND PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW IF I HAD THE LIKE LITTLE 00:11:34.467 --> 00:11:35.567 ARTHUR GLASSES. 00:11:35.667 --> 00:11:39.034 THE SO LOOKING REAL NERDY THRIFT STORE CLOTHES AND 00:11:39.134 --> 00:11:40.800 MAYBE I THINK I WAS LIKE AN EASY TARGET. 00:11:40.900 --> 00:11:43.434 SO YEAH, LITERALLY GETTING JUMPED EVERY DAY LIKE MY 00:11:43.534 --> 00:11:45.500 MOM WAS ALWAYS AT THE SCHOOL. 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:46.967 AND SO SHE JUST PULLED US OUT. 00:11:47.067 --> 00:11:50.400 AND SO YEAH, I FELT LIKE A BURDEN AND WAS SUICIDAL, 00:11:50.500 --> 00:11:51.567 SUPER LOW SELF-ESTEEM. 00:11:51.667 --> 00:11:54.667 I MEAN, MY SELF-ESTEEM WAS SO LOW THAT LIKE, IF WE 00:11:54.767 --> 00:11:56.334 WERE LIKE ON A ROAD TRIP AND I HAD TO USE THE 00:11:56.434 --> 00:11:59.433 BATHROOM, I WAS TOO SCARED TO GO ASK SOMEBODY WHERE 00:11:59.533 --> 00:12:00.234 THE BATHROOM WAS. 00:12:00.334 --> 00:12:01.667 I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE. 00:12:01.767 --> 00:12:03.434 I WAS LIKE, REALLY IN MY SHELL. 00:12:03.534 --> 00:12:06.634 AND SO I STARTED GETTING SUICIDAL AND JUST, I'M NOT 00:12:06.734 --> 00:12:07.501 GOING TO BE ANYTHING. 00:12:07.601 --> 00:12:08.867 I'M NEVER GOING TO BE ANYTHING. 00:12:08.967 --> 00:12:11.601 NOBODY LOVES, YOU KNOW, LOVES YOU, YOUR YOUR 00:12:11.701 --> 00:12:13.300 BURDEN TO YOUR MOM. 00:12:13.400 --> 00:12:15.067 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS MY MOM WAS 00:12:15.167 --> 00:12:17.467 SUPER WOMAN, BUT BECAUSE SHE HAD TO TAKE ON THE 00:12:17.567 --> 00:12:19.467 LOAD OF DOING WHAT A MAN IS SUPPOSED TO DO AND A 00:12:19.567 --> 00:12:21.033 WOMAN, SHE WAS ALSO TOUGH. 00:12:21.133 --> 00:12:22.367 YOU KNOW, SHE WAS HARD SOMETIMES. 00:12:22.467 --> 00:12:24.601 SO WE DIDN'T GROW UP WITH, LIKE, A LOT OF AFFECTION, 00:12:24.701 --> 00:12:25.467 A LOT OF LOVE. 00:12:25.567 --> 00:12:26.700 WE WEREN'T THAT TYPE OF FAMILY. 00:12:26.800 --> 00:12:28.934 LIKE, WE KNEW MOMS LOVED US, BUT IT WASN'T LIKE 00:12:29.034 --> 00:12:30.934 KISSY HUGGY, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF BECAUSE WE'RE 00:12:31.034 --> 00:12:33.233 JUST REALLY WE WERE JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE. 00:12:33.333 --> 00:12:33.901 PRETTY MUCH. 00:12:34.001 --> 00:12:34.601 THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE. 00:12:34.701 --> 00:12:35.867 WE WERE TRYING TO SURVIVE. 00:12:35.967 --> 00:12:38.167 AND SO I REMEMBER THINKING TO MYSELF, MAN, LIKE, MAN, 00:12:38.267 --> 00:12:40.500 IF YOU WEREN'T HERE, IT'D BE EASIER FOR HER, YOU 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:41.134 KNOW? 00:12:41.234 --> 00:12:41.867 AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE 12. 00:12:41.967 --> 00:12:42.600 WHATEVER. 00:12:42.700 --> 00:12:43.800 AND I CLIMBED A BRIDGE. 00:12:43.900 --> 00:12:45.134 I WAS GOING TO KILL MYSELF. 00:12:45.234 --> 00:12:47.901 AND THAT WAS LIKE MY FIRST REAL ENCOUNTER WITH GOD, 00:12:48.001 --> 00:12:48.767 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:12:48.867 --> 00:12:49.834 WHERE 00:12:49.934 --> 00:12:51.634 LIKE, I FELT LIKE HE SPOKE TO ME DIRECTLY. SO. 00:12:51.734 --> 00:12:52.700 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:12:52.800 --> 00:12:54.400 YOU WERE HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT A TREMENDOUS 00:12:54.500 --> 00:12:57.600 AMOUNT OF PAIN, AND YOU WERE A CHILD, AND IT KIND 00:12:57.700 --> 00:13:00.334 OF PILED ON TOP OF ITSELF UNTIL THE POINT, YOU KNOW, 00:13:00.434 --> 00:13:01.934 THAT'S WHERE THE DEPRESSION THEN TURNS TO 00:13:02.034 --> 00:13:03.000 SUICIDE. 00:13:03.100 --> 00:13:05.567 AND, YOU KNOW, THE ENEMY LIKES TO WHISPER LIES IN 00:13:05.667 --> 00:13:06.533 OUR PAIN. 00:13:06.633 --> 00:13:07.934 AND SO THE LIE IS THAT YOU ARE A BURDEN. 00:13:08.034 --> 00:13:09.167 YOU'RE REJECTED. 00:13:09.267 --> 00:13:10.533 YOU'RE NOT THIS BECAUSE YOU WERE HAVING ALL OF 00:13:10.633 --> 00:13:12.734 THESE PAINFUL EXPERIENCES FROM ALL THESE DIFFERENT 00:13:12.834 --> 00:13:15.001 PEOPLE, AND BECAUSE YOUR FATHER WASN'T IN THE 00:13:15.101 --> 00:13:15.934 PICTURE. 00:13:16.034 --> 00:13:19.334 YOUR MOTHER WAS UNDER A LOT OF LOAD. 00:13:19.434 --> 00:13:20.867 BUT THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. 00:13:20.967 --> 00:13:23.167 BUT YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE KIDS ARE BAD 00:13:23.267 --> 00:13:23.967 PROCESSORS. 00:13:24.067 --> 00:13:25.100 WE DON'T. 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.000 WE TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF OUR SITUATION, BUT IT'S 00:13:27.100 --> 00:13:29.967 NOT REALLY UNTIL WE GET OLDER. 00:13:30.067 --> 00:13:31.033 AND WE HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:13:31.133 --> 00:13:32.501 WE CAN TALK TO SOMEONE AND WE CAN PROCESS THESE 00:13:32.601 --> 00:13:33.634 THINGS IN LIFE. 00:13:33.734 --> 00:13:35.367 BUT YOU WERE JUST YOUNG, TRYING TO FIGURE LIFE OUT, 00:13:35.467 --> 00:13:37.934 TRYING TO JUST SURVIVE AND, YOU KNOW, LIVE. 00:13:38.034 --> 00:13:38.733 AND. 00:13:38.833 --> 00:13:39.734 YEAH. 00:13:39.834 --> 00:13:40.767 AND SO YOU KIND OF HIT A BREAKING POINT. 00:13:40.867 --> 00:13:41.367 SO TELL. 00:13:41.467 --> 00:13:42.434 YEAH. 00:13:42.534 --> 00:13:43.501 TELL MORE ABOUT THE STORY ABOUT AT THE BRIDGE. 00:13:43.601 --> 00:13:44.834 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:13:44.934 --> 00:13:46.533 I MEAN LONG STORY SHORT, I CLIMBED I CLIMBED THE 00:13:46.633 --> 00:13:49.067 BRIDGE AND IT WAS LIKE ICE COLD OUTSIDE. 00:13:49.167 --> 00:13:51.833 AND IT'S LIKE THOSE VOICES ARE JUST THERE. 00:13:51.933 --> 00:13:53.700 AND ANYBODY WHO'S DEALT WITH ANY KIND OF SPIRITUAL 00:13:53.800 --> 00:13:55.600 WARFARE, THEY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, LIKE 00:13:55.700 --> 00:13:56.700 THE ENEMY. 00:13:56.800 --> 00:13:58.500 AND THAT'S WHY PARENTS GOT TO BE ON TOP OF IT. 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.401 I'M VERY ACTIVE ABOUT TALKING TO MY CHILDREN, 00:14:01.501 --> 00:14:03.433 BECAUSE DON'T ASSUME THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE KIDS, THE 00:14:03.533 --> 00:14:04.767 DEVIL'S NOT GOING TO BOTHER THEM. 00:14:04.867 --> 00:14:07.267 THE DEVIL TALKS TO CHILDREN AND TRIES TO 00:14:07.367 --> 00:14:08.933 PLANT SEEDS EARLY. 00:14:09.033 --> 00:14:11.000 I LIKE TO CALL IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A SPIRITUAL 00:14:11.100 --> 00:14:12.201 ABORTION. 00:14:12.301 --> 00:14:14.634 HE TRIES TO ABORT WHATEVER GOD HAS IN THE CHILD EARLY 00:14:14.734 --> 00:14:15.267 ON. 00:14:15.367 --> 00:14:16.301 AND WORDS ARE POWERFUL. 00:14:16.401 --> 00:14:17.967 WORDS ARE SPIRITUAL. 00:14:18.067 --> 00:14:19.834 YOU KNOW, GOD CREATED EVERYTHING WITH A WORD. 00:14:19.934 --> 00:14:21.000 LET THERE BE. 00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:23.101 AND EVERYTHING WE SEE IS BECAUSE OF THAT WORD. 00:14:23.201 --> 00:14:25.200 AND THEN IN THE GARDEN, RIGHT, THE SNAKE SPOKE A 00:14:25.300 --> 00:14:27.334 WORD SHAPE EVE'S PERSPECTIVE. 00:14:27.434 --> 00:14:29.934 AND SO NOW EVEN KIDS CAN HAVE WORDS THAT ARE SPOKEN 00:14:30.034 --> 00:14:31.000 OVER THEM. 00:14:31.100 --> 00:14:32.767 AND IF THE DEVIL CAN GET YOU TO BELIEVE A FALSE 00:14:32.867 --> 00:14:34.801 PERSPECTIVE, IT CAN END IN SUICIDE. 00:14:34.901 --> 00:14:37.367 IT CAN END WITH YOU CHASING THE WRONG THINGS. 00:14:37.467 --> 00:14:39.200 AND SO FOR ME, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SUICIDE. 00:14:39.300 --> 00:14:43.200 BUT THE LORD MET ME AND SPOKE A WORD TO ME. 00:14:43.300 --> 00:14:44.834 AND I NEVER FORGET, LIKE, RIGHT WHEN I WAS GETTING 00:14:44.934 --> 00:14:46.700 READY TO JUMP, I FELT LIKE A HAND GRABBED THE BACK OF 00:14:46.800 --> 00:14:48.333 MY NECK AND WAS LIKE HOLDING ME. 00:14:48.433 --> 00:14:51.567 IT FELT LIKE WARM OIL WAS RUNNING DOWN MY BACK AND I 00:14:51.667 --> 00:14:55.801 JUST HEARD, SON, YOU KNOW, DON'T DO IT, YOU KNOW? 00:14:55.901 --> 00:14:57.934 AND HE SAID, I'M BREAKING YOU INTO A MILLION PIECES 00:14:58.034 --> 00:15:00.300 TO FEED YOU TO A MILLION PEOPLE. 00:15:00.400 --> 00:15:03.267 AND I MEAN WHEN I SAY, LIKE, JUST IT'S JUST 00:15:03.367 --> 00:15:04.233 FIGHT, FIGHT. 00:15:04.333 --> 00:15:05.800 MY WHOLE LIFE IS A FIGHT AND I'M TIRED. 00:15:05.900 --> 00:15:06.934 I'M 12. 00:15:07.034 --> 00:15:08.434 I WAS ALREADY WORKING FULL TIME, LIKE EIGHT HOURS A 00:15:08.534 --> 00:15:10.667 DAY, $2 AN HOUR, WORKING HARD. 00:15:10.767 --> 00:15:11.733 PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT. 00:15:11.833 --> 00:15:13.267 PEOPLE NOWADAYS, THEY TELL ME, GO GET A JOB. 00:15:13.367 --> 00:15:16.301 AND I LAUGH BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW, LIKE I WAS 00:15:16.401 --> 00:15:20.700 WORKING AS A KID, DRYWALL, YOU KNOW, GRABBING FRIDGES 00:15:20.800 --> 00:15:23.434 FROM APARTMENTS ON MY BACK, LIKE HARD WORK ALL 00:15:23.534 --> 00:15:25.901 DAY LONG, PAINTING APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, 00:15:26.001 --> 00:15:27.300 PULLING UP TILE. 00:15:27.400 --> 00:15:28.267 THEY HAVE NO IDEA. 00:15:28.367 --> 00:15:29.300 YOU KNOW, THE INTERNET. 00:15:29.400 --> 00:15:30.934 THEY DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE STORY. 00:15:31.034 --> 00:15:32.567 REBECCA: THEY DON'T KNOW YOUR STRUGGLE OR YOUR STORY. 00:15:32.667 --> 00:15:34.500 YOU'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY MUCH YOUR WHOLE LIFE. 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:35.100 MARCUS: MY WHOLE LIFE. 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:35.734 YEAH. 00:15:35.834 --> 00:15:36.400 REBECCA: I MEAN, AND, 00:15:36.500 --> 00:15:37.467 YEAH, YOU, 00:15:37.567 --> 00:15:38.967 WHAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU REFERENCED WAS YOU 00:15:39.067 --> 00:15:39.800 WORKED FOR? 00:15:39.900 --> 00:15:41.034 WAS IT YOUR MOM'S LANDLORD? 00:15:41.134 --> 00:15:42.967 MARCUS: YEAH, $2 AN HOUR. 00:15:43.067 --> 00:15:44.567 I DON'T KNOW HOW HE GOT AWAY WITH THAT, BUT I 00:15:44.667 --> 00:15:45.901 REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I WORKED, 00:15:46.001 --> 00:15:48.000 I WORKED LIKE A FULL WEEK, AND HE GAVE ME A $20 00:15:48.100 --> 00:15:49.301 BILL, AND I GAVE HIM A HUG. 00:15:49.401 --> 00:15:50.501 I WAS SO HAPPY. 00:15:50.601 --> 00:15:53.233 BUT THAT LETS YOU KNOW HOW POOR WE WERE, LIKE WE WERE 00:15:53.333 --> 00:15:54.533 POOR. 00:15:54.633 --> 00:15:56.901 REBECCA: AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK YOU WERE DOING FOR THAT IN 00:15:57.001 --> 00:15:58.100 THE AMOUNT OF HOURS. 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.200 YEAH, I MEAN, YOU WOULD NOT GET AWAY WITH THAT 00:16:00.300 --> 00:16:01.467 TODAY. 00:16:01.567 --> 00:16:03.033 MARCUS: HE'D PROBABLY BE IN JAIL. 00:16:03.133 --> 00:16:04.300 CHILD LABOR. 00:16:04.400 --> 00:16:05.467 REBECCA: SO, I MEAN, YOU WERE REALLY GROWING UP, I THINK 00:16:05.567 --> 00:16:07.800 IN A WAY THAT I DON'T THINK MOST CHILDREN COULD 00:16:07.900 --> 00:16:11.200 RELATE TO, AT LEAST IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY. 00:16:11.300 --> 00:16:13.101 AND SO BUT IT SHAPED YOU INTO THE PERSON THAT YOU 00:16:13.201 --> 00:16:15.967 ARE FOR SURE IS IMPORTANT. 00:16:16.067 --> 00:16:18.434 SO YOU HAVE THIS ENCOUNTER WITH GOD WHERE HE SPEAKS 00:16:18.534 --> 00:16:20.967 TO YOU, SON, SPEAKING TO THAT IDENTITY WHICH YOU 00:16:21.067 --> 00:16:24.734 KNOW, YOU HAD BEEN LONGING FOR A FATHER. 00:16:24.834 --> 00:16:25.767 HOW? 00:16:25.867 --> 00:16:27.700 BUT YOU DID NOT MAKE WHEN DID YOU MAKE THE 00:16:27.800 --> 00:16:29.834 CONNECTION AS GOD AS YOUR FATHER, IS THAT WAY MORE 00:16:29.934 --> 00:16:31.400 DOWN THE LINE? 00:16:31.500 --> 00:16:33.334 MARCUS: I MEAN, I FELT LIKE IN THAT MOMENT I REALLY FELT 00:16:33.434 --> 00:16:34.434 IT. 00:16:34.534 --> 00:16:35.834 SO I MEAN, I'M CRYING LIKE, I'M LIKE BAWLING MY 00:16:35.934 --> 00:16:36.433 EYES OUT. 00:16:36.533 --> 00:16:37.867 SO I GO BACK HOME. 00:16:37.967 --> 00:16:39.634 BUT THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE 00:16:39.734 --> 00:16:42.867 THE FATHER, THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, THAT FOLLOWS GOD 00:16:42.967 --> 00:16:45.733 LIKE ME WITH MY CHILDREN NOW, IT'S SO FUNNY. 00:16:45.833 --> 00:16:47.967 LIKE, I GOT MARRIED AT 19, EARLY WHEN I WAS IN THE 00:16:48.067 --> 00:16:50.067 ARMY GOING TO IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, ALL THAT. 00:16:50.167 --> 00:16:53.334 AND I LOOK BACK NOW, BEING 40 AT HOW I WAS AT 19, I'M 00:16:53.434 --> 00:16:55.001 LIKE, MAN, YOU WERE A KID. 00:16:55.101 --> 00:16:55.801 YOU DIDN'T KNOW. 00:16:55.901 --> 00:16:56.867 YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WOMEN. 00:16:56.967 --> 00:16:58.601 YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, LIKE EVERYTHING THAT I 00:16:58.701 --> 00:17:01.067 LEARNED WAS THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR, BECAUSE I 00:17:01.167 --> 00:17:03.034 DIDN'T HAVE VOICES IN MY LIFE TO BE LIKE, HEY, 00:17:03.134 --> 00:17:04.034 WATCH OUT FOR THIS. 00:17:04.134 --> 00:17:04.900 WATCH OUT FOR THAT. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:06.633 YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS. 00:17:06.733 --> 00:17:10.233 AND SO NOW WITH MY SONS, YOU KNOW, KNOWLEDGE IS 00:17:10.333 --> 00:17:11.334 WEALTH. 00:17:11.434 --> 00:17:12.733 AND THE BIBLE SAYS MY PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED FOR A 00:17:12.833 --> 00:17:14.001 LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. 00:17:14.101 --> 00:17:16.533 AND SO A LOT OF TIMES, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE 00:17:16.633 --> 00:17:18.900 KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING, YOU 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:20.667 KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT TO GIVE PEOPLE GRACE. 00:17:20.767 --> 00:17:24.400 YOU NEVER YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT PEOPLE BEEN THROUGH. 00:17:24.500 --> 00:17:26.700 YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT LIKE, YOU 00:17:26.800 --> 00:17:29.167 KNOW, A YOUNG LADY, LET'S SAY THAT SHE'S HAVING 00:17:29.267 --> 00:17:31.100 MULTIPLE BABIES, GETTING PREGNANT, GOT A COUPLE 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:33.001 BABY DADDIES, AND THEY'RE SO QUICK TO WRITE HER OFF, 00:17:33.101 --> 00:17:35.334 YOU KNOW, JEZEBEL, THIS, THAT, THAT. 00:17:35.434 --> 00:17:37.067 BUT THEN IF YOU DIVE DEEPER IN HER STORY, YOU 00:17:37.167 --> 00:17:39.201 FIND OUT SHE'S GETTING MOLESTED AT THREE AND FOUR 00:17:39.301 --> 00:17:40.233 AND FIVE YEARS OLD. 00:17:40.333 --> 00:17:42.267 AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. 00:17:42.367 --> 00:17:44.734 AND SO SOMEBODY WILL SELF-RIGHTEOUSLY LOOK AT 00:17:44.834 --> 00:17:47.034 THAT INDIVIDUAL AND LOOK AT THEIR CHOICES. 00:17:47.134 --> 00:17:49.967 BUT THEN IT'S LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T SURVIVE 00:17:50.067 --> 00:17:52.000 IN THOSE PERSON'S SHOES, YOU KNOW, IF THEY KNEW 00:17:52.100 --> 00:17:54.233 WHAT THEY HAD, WHAT THEY'D ACTUALLY BEEN THROUGH. 00:17:54.333 --> 00:17:56.200 AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO GIVE PEOPLE 00:17:56.300 --> 00:17:59.334 GRACE AND TO JUDGE WITH RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT, LIKE, 00:17:59.434 --> 00:18:00.833 BECAUSE YOU'LL LOOK AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY, LIKE, 00:18:00.933 --> 00:18:02.834 WOW, YOU WENT THROUGH THAT, YOU WENT THROUGH 00:18:02.934 --> 00:18:05.800 THAT AND YOU'RE STILL HERE AND YOU'RE STILL SEEKING 00:18:05.900 --> 00:18:07.967 GOD, AND YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER. 00:18:08.067 --> 00:18:10.267 YOU MIGHT NOT BE PERFECT, BUT YOU STILL HAVE FAITH 00:18:10.367 --> 00:18:12.033 AFTER EVERYTHING YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH. 00:18:12.133 --> 00:18:14.300 FAITH IN THE FIRE, FAITH IN THE TRIAL, FAITH AFTER 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:17.334 MOLESTATION AND HEARTBREAK AND LETDOWNS AND ALL THAT 00:18:17.434 --> 00:18:18.267 KIND OF STUFF. 00:18:18.367 --> 00:18:19.733 AND SO PEOPLE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL. 00:18:19.833 --> 00:18:21.733 IT'S NOT ALWAYS PRETTY, YOU KNOW? 00:18:21.833 --> 00:18:22.934 REBECCA: NO. 00:18:23.034 --> 00:18:24.401 AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO ALWAYS GO BACK TO, LIKE, 00:18:24.501 --> 00:18:26.300 THINK ABOUT WHAT GOD SAVED YOU FROM. 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:27.901 LIKE YOU HAVE TO TURN IT BACK ON YOURSELF. 00:18:28.001 --> 00:18:29.533 I FEEL LIKE THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE LORD'S DONE WITH 00:18:29.633 --> 00:18:32.133 ME, IS I REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN JUDGE, 00:18:32.233 --> 00:18:34.567 ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW THE FULLNESS 00:18:34.667 --> 00:18:36.767 OF PEOPLE, OF PEOPLE YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW. 00:18:36.867 --> 00:18:37.867 IT'S LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW THE FULLNESS OF THEIR 00:18:37.967 --> 00:18:39.567 STORY OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. 00:18:39.667 --> 00:18:41.267 AND I'VE JUST ALWAYS TURNED IT BACK TO, OKAY, 00:18:41.367 --> 00:18:43.933 GOD, CREATE IN ME A CLEAN HEART, YOU KNOW, AND JUST 00:18:44.033 --> 00:18:47.667 BE HUMBLE AND SHOW PEOPLE GRACE. 00:18:47.767 --> 00:18:49.800 YOU CAN BE DISCERNING AND YOU CAN LOOK AT SOMETHING 00:18:49.900 --> 00:18:52.200 AND BE LIKE, THIS IS NOT RIGHT. 00:18:52.300 --> 00:18:53.301 THIS, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. 00:18:53.401 --> 00:18:57.400 YOU CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, PHARISAICAL LOOKING DOWN 00:18:57.500 --> 00:18:58.334 ON PEOPLE. 00:18:58.434 --> 00:18:59.367 IT'S NOT PLEASING TO THE HEART OF GOD. 00:18:59.467 --> 00:19:00.834 YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING, TOO, WITH 00:19:00.934 --> 00:19:02.834 YOUR STORY IS LIKE, YOU HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE 00:19:02.934 --> 00:19:03.967 ENCOUNTER WITH THE LORD. 00:19:04.067 --> 00:19:07.167 I CAN SAY I'VE HAD SIMILAR POWERFUL ENCOUNTERS WITH 00:19:07.267 --> 00:19:10.200 GOD, AND STILL IT TOOK SOME TIME TO GET ON THE 00:19:10.300 --> 00:19:11.367 RIGHT PATH. 00:19:11.467 --> 00:19:13.367 AND IT'S LIKE YOU CAN HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE ENCOUNTER 00:19:13.467 --> 00:19:16.100 WITH GOD AND JUST AND YOUR IMMATURITY JUST GO BACK TO 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:17.767 LIVING BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT, 00:19:17.867 --> 00:19:18.867 RIGHT? 00:19:18.967 --> 00:19:19.900 YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO STEWARD WHAT GOD'S GIVING 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:20.567 YOU. 00:19:20.667 --> 00:19:21.667 YOU EVENTUALLY YOU LEARN. 00:19:21.767 --> 00:19:24.567 AND SO YOU HAD STILL THINGS TO PROCESS, AND YOU 00:19:24.667 --> 00:19:26.934 HAD TO GROW UP, AND YOU HAD TO COME TO A PLACE OF 00:19:27.034 --> 00:19:28.933 ULTIMATE SURRENDER. 00:19:29.033 --> 00:19:31.500 AND BUT THE WHOLE TIME, THROUGH EVERYTHING, GOD 00:19:31.600 --> 00:19:34.567 WAS GUIDING YOUR JOURNEY AND PRESERVING YOUR LIFE. 00:19:34.667 --> 00:19:35.634 RIGHT? 00:19:35.734 --> 00:19:37.034 AND SO YOU HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE ENCOUNTER WITH 00:19:37.134 --> 00:19:38.501 GOD. 00:19:38.601 --> 00:19:40.534 HE SPEAKS THIS POWERFUL WORD OVER YOU. 00:19:40.634 --> 00:19:44.001 YOU GROW UP AND YOU END UP IN THE MILITARY. 00:19:44.101 --> 00:19:45.900 SO TALK ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.233 MARCUS: SO YEAH, I JOINED THE ARMY. 00:19:47.333 --> 00:19:49.000 OBVIOUSLY MY POPS WAS IN THE ARMY, SO I GOT TO SEE 00:19:49.100 --> 00:19:50.667 A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE SCENES. 00:19:50.767 --> 00:19:53.033 AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, HERO UNIFORMS. 00:19:53.133 --> 00:19:55.501 SO INITIALLY I WANTED TO BE A COP IN CHICAGO, BUT 00:19:55.601 --> 00:19:57.601 SOMETHING HAPPENED AND I KNOW IT WAS GOD, THAT'S 00:19:57.701 --> 00:19:58.700 WHAT'S SO CRAZY. 00:19:58.800 --> 00:20:00.633 WHEN YOU LOOK BACK, GOD DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE A 00:20:00.733 --> 00:20:02.900 COP, AND I WOULD HAVE WENT AND BEEN A COP, YOU KNOW? 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.567 BUT THE MAYOR ENDED UP RAISING THE AGE TO LIKE 00:20:05.667 --> 00:20:06.433 21. 00:20:06.533 --> 00:20:08.901 SO I WAS LIKE 18, 17 AT THE TIME. 00:20:09.001 --> 00:20:10.700 I KNOW SOME COPS DID SOMETHING STUPID AND HE'S 00:20:10.800 --> 00:20:12.067 LIKE, NOPE, NO MORE 18 YEAR OLDS. 00:20:12.167 --> 00:20:13.200 EVERYBODY GOTTA BE 21. 00:20:13.300 --> 00:20:15.067 SO I WAS LIKE, OH MAN, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO NOW? 00:20:15.167 --> 00:20:17.000 MY MIND WAS SET, SO I'M LIKE, OKAY, I'M GONNA JOIN 00:20:17.100 --> 00:20:18.101 THE ARMY. 00:20:18.201 --> 00:20:20.133 AND PART OF IT WAS, LET ME GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. 00:20:20.233 --> 00:20:22.167 SO MY MOM HAS ONE LESS PERSON TO WORRY ABOUT. 00:20:22.267 --> 00:20:24.833 AND I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM, I'LL DO 00:20:24.933 --> 00:20:27.401 20 YEARS, GET MY, YOU KNOW, RETIREMENT, THEN 00:20:27.501 --> 00:20:29.134 COME BACK, THEN BE A COP. 00:20:29.234 --> 00:20:30.967 AND THEN NOW I CAN TAKE CARE OF MY MOM JUST IN 00:20:31.067 --> 00:20:32.867 CASE SHE DOESN'T GET MARRIED OR SOMETHING. 00:20:32.967 --> 00:20:34.567 I'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF HER, AND THEN I CAN GO 00:20:34.667 --> 00:20:36.100 WORK AND BE A COP OR WHATEVER. 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.067 SO I JOINED THE ARMY, YOU KNOW, 9/11. 00:20:38.167 --> 00:20:40.334 ALL THAT STUFF HAD KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HAPPENED. 00:20:40.434 --> 00:20:42.867 SO BOOM, I'M STRAIGHT TO IRAQ, YOU KNOW, BAGHDAD 00:20:42.967 --> 00:20:45.000 AND FRESHLY MARRIED. 00:20:45.100 --> 00:20:47.401 AND I THINK WE WERE ONLY MARRIED ABOUT SIX MONTHS 00:20:47.501 --> 00:20:49.234 BEFORE THEY SENT ME OVER THERE. 00:20:49.334 --> 00:20:50.467 REBECCA: CRAZY. 00:20:50.567 --> 00:20:52.100 MARCUS: AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND WE AND WE HAD GOT 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.700 MARRIED PRETTY QUICK TOO, BECAUSE I WAS NEVER THE 00:20:54.800 --> 00:20:56.900 KIND OF GUY TO JUST BE OUT THERE LIKE MULTIPLE 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:57.934 GIRLFRIENDS. 00:20:58.034 --> 00:21:00.034 I ALWAYS JUST LIKE, MAN, I WANT A FAMILY. 00:21:00.134 --> 00:21:01.700 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MET THAT GIRL, GOT HER 00:21:01.800 --> 00:21:02.800 PREGNANT. 00:21:02.900 --> 00:21:04.067 THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS, ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GET 00:21:04.167 --> 00:21:04.601 HER MARRIED. 00:21:04.701 --> 00:21:05.434 I'M NOT. 00:21:05.534 --> 00:21:06.467 I'M GONNA BE THERE FOR MY KIDS. 00:21:06.567 --> 00:21:07.467 BUT THERE WAS NO COUNCIL. 00:21:07.567 --> 00:21:08.567 THERE WAS NO WISDOM. 00:21:08.667 --> 00:21:10.334 THERE WAS NO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVING 00:21:10.434 --> 00:21:11.434 SOMEBODY LOOK AT IT. 00:21:11.534 --> 00:21:12.967 SO I JUST DID IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS RIGHT. 00:21:13.067 --> 00:21:15.801 EVERY GOOD IDEA IS NOT A GOD IDEA, YOU KNOW? 00:21:15.901 --> 00:21:18.734 AND SO, YEAH, WE WEREN'T MARRIED THAT LONG. 00:21:18.834 --> 00:21:20.534 I WENT TO IRAQ. 00:21:20.634 --> 00:21:22.633 THAT WAS LIKE REALLY SHAKY. 00:21:22.733 --> 00:21:25.867 CAME BACK FOR ABOUT TEN, 11 MONTHS, AND THEN THEY 00:21:25.967 --> 00:21:28.100 GAVE ME ORDERS TO GO TO AFGHANISTAN. 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:29.367 AND SO THAT WAS LIKE ANOTHER YEAR GONE. 00:21:29.467 --> 00:21:30.834 SO THEN, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A DIVORCE. 00:21:30.934 --> 00:21:33.034 LIKE IT WAS JUST TOO MUCH, TOO YOUNG, TOO DUMB, 00:21:33.134 --> 00:21:34.667 DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. 00:21:34.767 --> 00:21:37.767 AND THAT WHOLE TIME, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PAIN, A LOT 00:21:37.867 --> 00:21:39.267 OF TRAUMA FROM BOTH SIDES. 00:21:39.367 --> 00:21:40.401 SO, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO COPE. 00:21:40.501 --> 00:21:42.067 GOT A LITTLE GIRLFRIEND HERE ON THE SIDE, LITTLE 00:21:42.167 --> 00:21:45.000 GIRLFRIEND, ADULTERY HERE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 00:21:45.100 --> 00:21:47.201 AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES IN IRAQ WITH 00:21:47.301 --> 00:21:48.967 JUST, YOU KNOW, BOMBS, ROCKETS, ALL THAT KIND OF 00:21:49.067 --> 00:21:49.567 STUFF. 00:21:49.667 --> 00:21:50.867 GET TO AFGHANISTAN. 00:21:50.967 --> 00:21:53.867 AND ONE PARTICULAR NIGHT, YOU KNOW, I HAD A LITTLE 00:21:53.967 --> 00:21:55.767 GIRLFRIEND EVEN OUT THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:21:55.867 --> 00:21:58.400 SO I'M JUST DOING WRONG AND I KNOW I'M DOING 00:21:58.500 --> 00:21:59.534 WRONG. 00:21:59.634 --> 00:22:01.533 BUT PART OF IT IS BECAUSE I'M HURT AND I'M WOUNDED. 00:22:01.633 --> 00:22:03.100 SO IT'S LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THAT BAND-AID ON 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:03.967 IT. 00:22:04.067 --> 00:22:05.200 I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD. 00:22:05.300 --> 00:22:07.934 I CAN'T FIX NOTHING THAT'S GOING ON BACK IN AMERICA. 00:22:08.034 --> 00:22:10.067 SO THIS IS MAKING ME FEEL BETTER NOW. 00:22:10.167 --> 00:22:12.167 AND ONE NIGHT, THE ALARMS WENT OFF. 00:22:12.267 --> 00:22:12.967 THE. 00:22:13.067 --> 00:22:14.201 IT WAS LIKE A GROUND INVASION. 00:22:14.301 --> 00:22:15.567 THEY WERE SHOOTING ROCKETS. 00:22:15.667 --> 00:22:17.267 I'M LIKE, MAN, I COULD DIE TONIGHT. 00:22:17.367 --> 00:22:19.067 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE SCREAMING OUTSIDE AND ALL 00:22:19.167 --> 00:22:20.533 KINDS OF STUFF. 00:22:20.633 --> 00:22:22.034 AND I HAD MY TWO, FOUR, NINE. 00:22:22.134 --> 00:22:23.167 I LOCKED AND LOADED. 00:22:23.267 --> 00:22:26.134 I SAID, LORD, IF THIS IS IT, I KNOW I'VE BEEN DOING 00:22:26.234 --> 00:22:27.000 BEING STUPID. 00:22:27.100 --> 00:22:28.100 I KNOW THAT YOU SPOKE TO ME. 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:30.501 I KNOW I AIN'T REALLY WALKING IN MY CALLING, BUT 00:22:30.601 --> 00:22:32.733 YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS IT, I REPENT. 00:22:32.833 --> 00:22:36.767 AND I WALKED OUT THAT ROOM AND I NEVER FORGET THESE. 00:22:36.867 --> 00:22:39.100 THEY HAD THE MALE BARRACKS OVER HERE, FEMALE BARRACKS 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:39.967 OVER HERE. 00:22:40.067 --> 00:22:41.533 AND THESE FEMALES ARE JUST RUNNING. 00:22:41.633 --> 00:22:42.333 IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING. 00:22:42.433 --> 00:22:43.400 SLOW MOTION. 00:22:43.500 --> 00:22:45.533 AND YOU JUST HEAR THE BOOM, BOOM GROUND ATTACK 00:22:45.633 --> 00:22:46.167 GROUND. 00:22:46.267 --> 00:22:47.200 THEY GOT THESE SPEAKERS. 00:22:47.300 --> 00:22:48.901 SO TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU 00:22:49.001 --> 00:22:50.000 KNOW, IT'S PITCH DARK TOO. 00:22:50.100 --> 00:22:51.800 WE'RE IN THE DESERT, SO THERE'S LIKE DIFFERENT 00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:52.834 LIGHTS HERE AND THERE. 00:22:52.934 --> 00:22:54.867 SO THEY GOT TO LET YOU KNOW THROUGH SOUND. 00:22:54.967 --> 00:22:57.334 AND I REMEMBER THIS YOUNG LADY SHE RUNS ACROSS AND 00:22:57.434 --> 00:22:58.801 SHE'S JUST ALL DISCOMBOBULATED. 00:22:58.901 --> 00:22:59.800 SHE DON'T HAVE HER HELMET. 00:22:59.900 --> 00:23:02.567 AND I'M LIKE, SOLDIER, WHERE'S YOUR HELMET? 00:23:02.667 --> 00:23:03.601 SHE'S LIKE, I DON'T GET IT. 00:23:03.701 --> 00:23:04.400 I'M LIKE, TAKE MINE. 00:23:04.500 --> 00:23:05.600 SHE'S LIKE, NO SERGEANT. 00:23:05.700 --> 00:23:06.467 NO. 00:23:06.567 --> 00:23:08.800 AND IT WAS IT WAS BANANAS, YOU KNOW? 00:23:08.900 --> 00:23:11.901 BUT AFTER I REPENTED A PIECE IT HIT ME. 00:23:12.001 --> 00:23:15.000 SO I'M LIKE, IF I GO, YOU KNOW, I GO AND I NEVER 00:23:15.100 --> 00:23:17.933 FORGET THERE'S THIS OLDER WOMAN. 00:23:18.033 --> 00:23:19.367 SHE'S. 00:23:19.467 --> 00:23:20.234 SHE HAD TO BE 60. 00:23:20.334 --> 00:23:22.033 WHITE HAIR, GOLDEN GIRL, WHATEVER. 00:23:22.133 --> 00:23:24.733 BUT SHE WAS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MAJOR OR SOME 00:23:24.833 --> 00:23:25.734 IN THE ARMY. 00:23:25.834 --> 00:23:27.100 AND SHE'S SITTING OUT THERE AND ALL THESE 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.367 GANGSTER DUDES WHO WAS TALKING CRAZY. 00:23:29.467 --> 00:23:30.900 YOU KNOW, I GO TO AFGHANISTAN, I'M GONNA DO 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:31.467 THIS. 00:23:31.567 --> 00:23:32.600 I'M GONNA DO THAT. 00:23:32.700 --> 00:23:34.067 A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T COME OUT THE ROOM, YOU KNOW, 00:23:34.167 --> 00:23:35.367 BECAUSE YOU GOT TO COME OUT YOUR ROOM, SEE WHAT'S 00:23:35.467 --> 00:23:36.367 GOING ON. 00:23:36.467 --> 00:23:38.367 SHE WAS OUT THERE I'LL NEVER FORGET. 00:23:38.467 --> 00:23:40.067 AND SHE COCKED HER LITTLE 9 MIL. 00:23:40.167 --> 00:23:42.200 SHE SAID, LET 'EM COME! 00:23:42.300 --> 00:23:44.134 I SAID, OH, THIS OLD LADY IS CRAZY. 00:23:44.234 --> 00:23:46.167 LIKE SHE'S READY TO GO. 00:23:46.267 --> 00:23:47.834 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I GOT CHARGED UP AND EVERYTHING 00:23:47.934 --> 00:23:49.001 WAS FINE. 00:23:49.101 --> 00:23:51.234 BUT EVEN WHEN GOD GAVE ME GRACE THERE, I MADE IT 00:23:51.334 --> 00:23:54.833 BACK HOME, STILL PARTYING, CLUBBING, GETTING INTO 00:23:54.933 --> 00:23:55.967 FIGHTS. 00:23:56.067 --> 00:23:58.534 AND IT ESCALATED TO THE POINT WHERE WE GOT IN A 00:23:58.634 --> 00:24:01.167 SHOOTOUT ONE NIGHT AND THEY SHOT THE WHOLE TRUCK 00:24:01.267 --> 00:24:02.167 UP. 00:24:02.267 --> 00:24:04.134 AND THAT WAS THE TURNING POINT FOR ME. 00:24:04.234 --> 00:24:06.301 AFTER THAT NIGHT, I SAID, ALL RIGHT, GOD, YOU KNOW, 00:24:06.401 --> 00:24:07.767 I FELT LIKE GOD WAS TELLING ME BECAUSE IT WAS 00:24:07.867 --> 00:24:08.834 LIKE SLOW. 00:24:08.934 --> 00:24:11.267 I GOT JUMPED ONE TIME IN THE CLUB. 00:24:11.367 --> 00:24:13.800 NEXT TIME I WAS LIKE, ESCALATED THE BULLETS. 00:24:13.900 --> 00:24:15.101 AND I ALMOST FELT LIKE GOD WAS LIKE, YOU'RE GONNA 00:24:15.201 --> 00:24:16.700 SERVE ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 00:24:16.800 --> 00:24:19.667 EVEN IF YOU COME BACK TO ALTAR IN A WHEELCHAIR, YOU 00:24:19.767 --> 00:24:20.833 KNOW, SO WE COULD GO. 00:24:20.933 --> 00:24:22.900 YOU COULD KEEP IGNORING ME, BUT I'M GOING TO BRING 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:24.034 YOU BACK. 00:24:24.134 --> 00:24:25.334 NOW, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO THINK ABOUT 00:24:25.434 --> 00:24:27.067 GOD LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:24:27.167 --> 00:24:28.600 BUT THAT IS GRACE. 00:24:28.700 --> 00:24:32.767 BECAUSE IMAGINE THAT I GO OUT THERE AND I DIE AND GO 00:24:32.867 --> 00:24:36.100 TO HELL, AS OPPOSED TO, OKAY, I GET HIT AND I'M IN 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.033 A WHEELCHAIR, BUT I GO TO HEAVEN. 00:24:38.133 --> 00:24:39.901 SO IT IS GRACE, YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE, PEOPLE DON'T 00:24:40.001 --> 00:24:41.000 LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT. 00:24:41.100 --> 00:24:42.600 BUT HE WAS VERY PATIENT WITH ME. 00:24:42.700 --> 00:24:43.967 REBECCA: HE WAS PATIENT WITH YOU. 00:24:44.067 --> 00:24:45.467 DID YOU FEEL 00:24:45.567 --> 00:24:46.967 LIKE WHEN YOU GOT BACK HOME AND YOU WERE STILL, 00:24:47.067 --> 00:24:48.700 LIKE, CLUBBING AND DOING ALL THAT STUFF, DID YOU 00:24:48.800 --> 00:24:51.200 FEEL THE CALL OF GOD ON YOUR LIFE AND THAT YOU 00:24:51.300 --> 00:24:53.234 NEEDED TO SURRENDER AND YOU WERE RESISTING IT, OR 00:24:53.334 --> 00:24:54.767 DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WERE JUST KIND OF DOING YOUR 00:24:54.867 --> 00:24:56.000 THING? 00:24:56.100 --> 00:24:57.667 MARCUS: TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IT WAS JUST A LOT OF HURT 00:24:57.767 --> 00:24:58.900 AND A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:01.534 I FELT LIKE MY WHOLE LIFE HAS BEEN A FIGHT, A 00:25:01.634 --> 00:25:02.634 STRUGGLE. 00:25:02.734 --> 00:25:03.833 I'M THINKING, I'M GONNA GET MARRIED, JUST HAVE A 00:25:03.933 --> 00:25:04.867 BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. 00:25:04.967 --> 00:25:06.467 BRADY BUNCH, YOU KNOW? 00:25:06.567 --> 00:25:08.067 YOU KNOW? 00:25:08.167 --> 00:25:09.567 AND IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT. 00:25:09.667 --> 00:25:11.133 I'M LIKE, YO, LIKE EVERYTHING. 00:25:11.233 --> 00:25:11.867 REBECCA: YOU'RE DISAPPOINTED? 00:25:11.967 --> 00:25:12.367 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:25:12.467 --> 00:25:12.967 DISAPPOINTMENT. 00:25:13.067 --> 00:25:14.233 AND SO -- 00:25:14.333 --> 00:25:16.234 REBECCA: DID YOU FEEL RESENTFUL TOWARDS GOD? 00:25:16.334 --> 00:25:18.501 MARCUS: NOT REALLY RESENTFUL TOWARDS GOD. 00:25:18.601 --> 00:25:20.333 IT'S JUST LIKE THIS MOMENT WHERE LIKE, YEAH, I 00:25:20.433 --> 00:25:23.067 BELIEVE GOD, BUT CLEARLY HE AIN'T ROCKING WITH ME 00:25:23.167 --> 00:25:24.334 LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:25:24.434 --> 00:25:25.567 LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M WATCHING ALL THE OTHER 00:25:25.667 --> 00:25:28.067 GOODY TWO SHOES AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN CHURCH 00:25:28.167 --> 00:25:29.100 AND THE FAVORITES. 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:30.901 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THE REJECT, LIKE MY WHOLE 00:25:31.001 --> 00:25:32.367 LIFE, YOU KNOW? 00:25:32.467 --> 00:25:35.000 SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE FINE. 00:25:35.100 --> 00:25:37.900 YOU GOT YOU GOT GOD'S SPECIAL KIDS OVER HERE. 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.633 AND THEN I'M LIKE THE LITTLE BLACK SHEEP OR 00:25:39.733 --> 00:25:42.034 WHATEVER, SO, YOU KNOW, FINE, I'M GONNA JUST DO 00:25:42.134 --> 00:25:43.134 WHATEVER. 00:25:43.234 --> 00:25:44.900 AND IT WAS LIKE A COPING, YOU KNOW, MECHANISM OR 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:45.734 WHATEVER. 00:25:45.834 --> 00:25:46.500 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:25:46.600 --> 00:25:48.300 IT WAS A COPING MECHANISM. 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.600 TELL MORE IN DETAIL OF KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH 00:25:50.700 --> 00:25:52.600 THE SHOOTOUT BECAUSE YOU GOT JUMPED. 00:25:52.700 --> 00:25:54.301 YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS GOT JUMPED AT THE CLUB. 00:25:54.401 --> 00:25:56.667 YOU WENT BACK TO THE CLUB THE NEXT WEEK. 00:25:56.767 --> 00:25:57.534 THE SHOOTOUT HAPPENS. 00:25:57.634 --> 00:25:59.067 TELL THE STORY BEHIND THE SHOOTOUT. 00:25:59.167 --> 00:26:00.167 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:26:00.267 --> 00:26:03.834 SO I THE REASON I TELL THAT FIRST STORY IS 00:26:03.934 --> 00:26:05.933 BECAUSE THE YOUNG LADY WHO WAS THERE, WHO HAPPENED TO 00:26:06.033 --> 00:26:07.834 GO TO THE CHURCH THAT I HAPPENED TO GO TO, SO I 00:26:07.934 --> 00:26:10.300 KNEW IT WAS GOD GIVING ME A WARNING. 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:11.667 SHE COMES UP TO ME, SHE SAYS, HEY, WE'RE NOT 00:26:11.767 --> 00:26:12.867 SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. 00:26:12.967 --> 00:26:13.700 GIVES ME A LITTLE KISS. 00:26:13.800 --> 00:26:14.934 I'M LIKE, MAN, GET OFF ME, GIRL. 00:26:15.034 --> 00:26:16.534 YOU MESSING UP MY GROOVE RIGHT NOW. 00:26:16.634 --> 00:26:18.033 WE'RE TRYING TO TURN UP, YOU KNOW? 00:26:18.133 --> 00:26:20.434 AND THEN LIKE, LITERALLY RIGHT AFTER THAT IS WHEN 00:26:20.534 --> 00:26:21.901 WE GOT JUMPED. 00:26:22.001 --> 00:26:23.967 AND IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU'RE IN PLACES THAT YOU'RE NOT 00:26:24.067 --> 00:26:25.967 SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, IF GOD 00:26:26.067 --> 00:26:28.600 SPEAKS TO YOU AND YOU'RE A CHILD OF GOD, YOU'RE NEVER 00:26:28.700 --> 00:26:30.467 GOING TO FIT IN WITH DARKNESS BECAUSE YOU'RE 00:26:30.567 --> 00:26:31.534 HIGHLIGHTED, YOU'RE MARKED. 00:26:31.634 --> 00:26:33.267 MANY ARE CALLED, FEW ARE CHOSEN. 00:26:33.367 --> 00:26:35.067 SO YOU COULD TRY TO RUN FROM IT LIKE JONAH. 00:26:35.167 --> 00:26:36.467 SO REALLY, IT WAS LIKE A JONAH IN THE WHALE 00:26:36.567 --> 00:26:37.534 EXPERIENCE. 00:26:37.634 --> 00:26:38.700 EXCEPT I DIDN'T GET SWALLOWED BY IT. 00:26:38.800 --> 00:26:41.500 WELL, I GOT SWALLOWED BY SOME FEET, SOME NIKE'S AND 00:26:41.600 --> 00:26:43.200 SOME TIMBERLANDS, YOU KNOW, GETTING STOMPED. 00:26:43.300 --> 00:26:45.633 AND EVEN THEN, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, MEN, WE GOT THAT 00:26:45.733 --> 00:26:46.334 PRIDE. 00:26:46.434 --> 00:26:48.167 SO WE SURVIVED. 00:26:48.267 --> 00:26:50.834 AND MY HOMEBOY, I REMEMBER HE'S BLEEDING OUT THE EAR 00:26:50.934 --> 00:26:52.233 AND UNDER HIS HEAD. 00:26:52.333 --> 00:26:54.367 THEY HIT HIM WITH A PIPE AND YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE 00:26:54.467 --> 00:26:55.634 IT'S 30 OF Y'ALL. 00:26:55.734 --> 00:26:56.967 IT'S THREE OF US RIGHT. 00:26:57.067 --> 00:26:58.933 WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MILITARY GUYS AND 00:26:59.033 --> 00:26:59.700 STUFF. 00:26:59.800 --> 00:27:00.800 SO WE'RE BEATING OUR CHESTS. 00:27:00.900 --> 00:27:04.001 AND SO WE GO BACK THE NEXT WEEK AND WE'RE LEAVING 00:27:04.101 --> 00:27:05.334 THE PARKING LOT. 00:27:05.434 --> 00:27:08.301 AND MY HOMEBOY IS DRUNK AND HE SAYS SOMETHING TO 00:27:08.401 --> 00:27:11.100 LIKE THE WRONG GROUP OF GUYS IN THE PARKING LOT, 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.500 YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT THAT THAT 00:27:13.600 --> 00:27:14.534 LIQUOR. 00:27:14.634 --> 00:27:16.434 AND HE'S LIKE, YO WHAT'S UP YOU GUYS BUSSING? 00:27:16.534 --> 00:27:18.367 AND HE PUT HIS HAND UP LIKE HE HAD A GUN. 00:27:18.467 --> 00:27:20.334 AND THESE I'M LIKE, WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT TO THE 00:27:20.434 --> 00:27:21.667 MOST GANGSTER DUDES? 00:27:21.767 --> 00:27:22.767 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:27:22.867 --> 00:27:25.133 THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT IF YOU WANTED 00:27:25.233 --> 00:27:27.567 TO START SOMETHING, THESE DUDES CLEARLY WERE ABOUT 00:27:27.667 --> 00:27:31.333 THAT LIFE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY GOT UP AND THEY 00:27:31.433 --> 00:27:34.001 SURROUNDED US RIGHT THERE IN THE IN THE PARKING LOT. 00:27:34.101 --> 00:27:35.100 AND IT WAS A LOT OF THEM. 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:36.367 I'M LIKE, OH MAN, THESE DUDES REALLY BOUT IT. 00:27:36.467 --> 00:27:37.801 SO I'M MIXED, RIGHT? 00:27:37.901 --> 00:27:39.400 I GOT MY BLACK SIDE, I GOT MY WHITE SIDE. 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:42.267 SO I SAID RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE MORE I 00:27:42.367 --> 00:27:44.067 DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK THERE'S NO GANGSTER IN ME 00:27:44.167 --> 00:27:46.367 BECAUSE WE PROBABLY ABOUT TO DIE OR SOMETHING. 00:27:46.467 --> 00:27:47.801 SO I'M LIKE, LISTEN, GUYS, LISTEN GUYS, WE DON'T 00:27:47.901 --> 00:27:48.967 REALLY WANT ANY PROBLEMS. 00:27:49.067 --> 00:27:52.034 YOU KNOW, I JUST, I WAS THERE'S NO THUG IN ME AT 00:27:52.134 --> 00:27:52.834 ALL. 00:27:52.934 --> 00:27:54.067 LIKE, I'M JUST A NERD, LIKE. 00:27:54.167 --> 00:27:55.367 AND IT WORKED. 00:27:55.467 --> 00:27:57.167 IT WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, THEY LET US, YOU KNOW, GET 00:27:57.267 --> 00:28:00.001 IN THE CAR AND STUFF AND YEAH, THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, 00:28:00.101 --> 00:28:01.100 THAT'S RIGHT. 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.067 AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, YOU GUYS GOT IT COOL, YOU 00:28:03.167 --> 00:28:03.633 KNOW? 00:28:03.733 --> 00:28:05.001 SEE YOU LATER BRO. 00:28:05.101 --> 00:28:08.867 AND WE PULL OUT THE PARKING LOT AND I HIT THE 00:28:08.967 --> 00:28:10.033 RED LIGHT. 00:28:10.133 --> 00:28:13.200 NEVER FORGET IT'S A SILVER CAMARO PULLED UP ON THE 00:28:13.300 --> 00:28:15.733 RIGHT AND ANOTHER CAR PULLED UP BEHIND IT. 00:28:15.833 --> 00:28:17.901 AND THEN IT'S LIKE A CAR WENT AROUND AND PULLED UP 00:28:18.001 --> 00:28:19.000 IN THE FRONT. 00:28:19.100 --> 00:28:21.234 AND TWO CARS CAME ON THIS SIDE, AND THEY ROLLED 00:28:21.334 --> 00:28:23.667 THEIR WINDOWS DOWN AND THEY WERE JUST HANGING OUT 00:28:23.767 --> 00:28:24.700 THE WINDOW. 00:28:24.800 --> 00:28:26.167 AND SOME OF THEM WERE PROBABLY DRUNK TOO. 00:28:26.267 --> 00:28:27.967 NOW, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT, AND THEY 00:28:28.067 --> 00:28:30.633 PUT THESE GUNS OUT AND THE TYPE OF GUNS THEY HAD, I 00:28:30.733 --> 00:28:32.100 SAID, OH, THEY, THEY SHOOT THOSE. 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:33.367 IT'S NOT JUST PISTOLS. 00:28:33.467 --> 00:28:35.267 THEY HAD ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 00:28:35.367 --> 00:28:37.967 AND MY HOMEBOY WHO WAS SITTING BEHIND ME, THE ONE 00:28:38.067 --> 00:28:40.800 WHO STARTED EVERYTHING, WE HAD TWO GUNS IN THE CAR, 00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:42.800 AND I REMEMBER SEEING HIM IN THE REAR VIEW. 00:28:42.900 --> 00:28:45.300 HE'S REACHING DOWN, HE'S LOOKING AND HE GRABS THE 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:46.967 GUN AND HE SWINGS IT. 00:28:47.067 --> 00:28:48.600 AND LIKE, I DUCK BECAUSE I'M LIKE, THIS GUY'S 00:28:48.700 --> 00:28:49.734 DRUNK. 00:28:49.834 --> 00:28:51.501 HE'S GONNA SHOOT ME IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD, AND HE 00:28:51.601 --> 00:28:55.334 PUTS IT OUT THE WINDOW AND HE SAYS, I DON'T GIVE A F. 00:28:55.434 --> 00:28:57.367 WE COULD ALL DIE TONIGHT. 00:28:57.467 --> 00:28:58.834 LIKE HE'S SCARFACE OR SOMETHING. 00:28:58.934 --> 00:29:01.033 I'M LIKE, BRO, I CANNOT DIE TONIGHT. 00:29:01.133 --> 00:29:02.634 YOU MIGHT WANT TO DIE TONIGHT. 00:29:02.734 --> 00:29:04.534 BUT YOU KNOW, IF I DIE, I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I 00:29:04.634 --> 00:29:06.400 HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, AT LEAST TO AN 00:29:06.500 --> 00:29:07.633 EXTENT. 00:29:07.733 --> 00:29:09.634 AND THAT RILED THOSE DUDES UP. 00:29:09.734 --> 00:29:11.233 AND THEY REALLY, LIKE, NOW. 00:29:11.333 --> 00:29:13.434 NOW THEY'RE HANGING OUT THE WINDOW, YOU KNOW, 00:29:13.534 --> 00:29:15.100 LOCKING AND LOADING. 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.600 AND OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYE, THE DRIVER'S SEAT 00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:20.167 GUY OR THE GUY WHO'S ON WHERE I WAS ON THE 00:29:20.267 --> 00:29:22.500 DRIVER'S SEAT, THE GUY IN THE CAR OVER THERE, HE GOT 00:29:22.600 --> 00:29:25.333 UP AND I SAW HIM COCK THE PISTOL, AND HE WAS WALKING 00:29:25.433 --> 00:29:27.467 TOWARD MY WINDOW, AND IT WAS LIKE EVERYTHING 00:29:27.567 --> 00:29:28.667 HAPPENED IN SLOW MOTION. 00:29:28.767 --> 00:29:31.767 ANYBODY WHO'S EVER HAD, LIKE, A LIFE OR DEATH, YOU 00:29:31.867 --> 00:29:33.867 KNOW, EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE TIME SLOWS 00:29:33.967 --> 00:29:34.567 DOWN. 00:29:34.667 --> 00:29:36.134 I'VE HAD SEVERAL OF THOSE. 00:29:36.234 --> 00:29:39.533 AND I LOOKED AT MY, MY BROTHER IN THE FRONT SEAT 00:29:39.633 --> 00:29:42.100 AND WE MADE EYE CONTACT, AND IT WAS JUST LIKE, YOU 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:43.701 KNOW, HOW YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY WITH YOUR EYES, 00:29:43.801 --> 00:29:44.967 BUT YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING. 00:29:45.067 --> 00:29:46.167 IT'S LIKE, HEY, LOVE YOU, BRO. 00:29:46.267 --> 00:29:48.100 YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE HIS EYES GETTING WIDER. 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.867 HE'S LIKE, THIS IS IT. 00:29:49.967 --> 00:29:52.367 AND THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT JUST WAS LIKE, LOOK UP. 00:29:52.467 --> 00:29:54.367 DIDN'T SAY A LOT, JUST LOOK UP. 00:29:54.467 --> 00:29:55.500 AND I'M LIKE. 00:29:55.600 --> 00:29:57.434 AND I LOOKED UP AND I SAW IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR 00:29:57.534 --> 00:29:59.333 I'M LIKE, OH, WAIT. 00:29:59.433 --> 00:30:01.200 THEY BOXED US IN IN THE FRONT, BUT NOT IN THE 00:30:01.300 --> 00:30:02.500 BACK. 00:30:02.600 --> 00:30:04.567 AND SO I JUST PUT IT IN REVERSE AND I SMASHED THE 00:30:04.667 --> 00:30:06.500 GAS AND JUST JUMPED BACK. 00:30:06.600 --> 00:30:08.633 THEY STARTED SHOOTING. 00:30:08.733 --> 00:30:13.067 AND WENT AROUND AND JUST GOT THE HIGHWAY WAS RIGHT 00:30:13.167 --> 00:30:14.200 THERE. 00:30:14.300 --> 00:30:15.301 SO I GOT ON THE HIGHWAY AND THEY'RE JUST SHOOTING 00:30:15.401 --> 00:30:16.933 AND THEY START FOLLOWING US ON THE HIGHWAY FOR A 00:30:17.033 --> 00:30:19.901 LITTLE BIT, AND EVENTUALLY THEY PULL OFF AND THEN WE 00:30:20.001 --> 00:30:22.200 PULL OVER LIKE, YOU KNOW, CHECKING EVERY BODY. 00:30:22.300 --> 00:30:24.101 YOU KNOW, THERE'S FIVE OF US IN THE CAR. 00:30:24.201 --> 00:30:25.634 GET OUT THE CAR. 00:30:25.734 --> 00:30:29.467 BULLET HOLES ALL IN THE ROOF, ALL IN THE SIDE. 00:30:29.567 --> 00:30:32.767 AND I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT 00:30:32.867 --> 00:30:35.433 THE PASSENGER SEAT, THERE WAS LIKE A BULLET STUCK 00:30:35.533 --> 00:30:39.467 RIGHT IN THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE TRUCK IN THE 00:30:39.567 --> 00:30:41.134 PLASTIC IN THE SIDE, LIKE IT WAS JUST STUCK JUST 00:30:41.234 --> 00:30:42.234 SITTING THERE. 00:30:42.334 --> 00:30:44.700 AND WE PULLED IT OUT AND I LOOKED AT MY BROTHER. 00:30:44.800 --> 00:30:48.434 I WAS LIKE, BRO, THIS WAS GOD, THE REASON. 00:30:48.534 --> 00:30:49.567 AND I TOLD HIM STRAIGHT. 00:30:49.667 --> 00:30:51.000 I SAID, THE REASON, THE REASON NONE OF Y'ALL IS 00:30:51.100 --> 00:30:52.867 DEAD IS BECAUSE MY MOM BE PRAYING AND LIKE, I'M 00:30:52.967 --> 00:30:55.933 GOING OFF, YOU KNOW, HAVING A MOMENT AND YEAH, 00:30:56.033 --> 00:30:56.734 DROPPED THEM OFF. 00:30:56.834 --> 00:30:58.367 I WENT HOME AND I JUST CRIED. 00:30:58.467 --> 00:31:00.633 I FELL ON THE FLOOR AND I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LORD, 00:31:00.733 --> 00:31:01.967 I HEAR YOU. 00:31:02.067 --> 00:31:05.534 AND I SAID, I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU DIDN'T 00:31:05.634 --> 00:31:06.834 LET ME DIE OUT THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M 00:31:06.934 --> 00:31:07.967 THINKING ABOUT MY KIDS. 00:31:08.067 --> 00:31:08.834 I'M THINKING ABOUT ALL. 00:31:08.934 --> 00:31:10.800 I'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN. 00:31:10.900 --> 00:31:13.134 AND I SAID, LORD, GIVE ME THE JOB THAT NOBODY ELSE 00:31:13.234 --> 00:31:15.300 WANTS TO DO BECAUSE I'M ALREADY LIKE THE REJECT, 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:16.167 RIGHT? 00:31:16.267 --> 00:31:17.267 I'M NOT ACCEPTED. 00:31:17.367 --> 00:31:19.033 I SAID, GIVE ME THE JOB NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO. 00:31:19.133 --> 00:31:20.833 I'LL SAY WHAT NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SAY. 00:31:20.933 --> 00:31:23.034 I'LL PREACH WHAT NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO PREACH. 00:31:23.134 --> 00:31:25.267 AND THAT'S WHERE ALL THAT STARTED WITH, LIKE THE 00:31:25.367 --> 00:31:27.133 VIDEOS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I'MA JUST DO WHAT GOD 00:31:27.233 --> 00:31:28.533 TELLS ME TO DO NO MATTER WHAT. 00:31:28.633 --> 00:31:29.767 OUT OF GRATITUDE. 00:31:29.867 --> 00:31:31.834 NOT BECAUSE I WANT LIKES OR VIEWS. 00:31:31.934 --> 00:31:34.133 I WAS, YOU KNOW, I WAS FINE BEING IN THE ARMY. 00:31:34.233 --> 00:31:35.600 I WANTED TO DO 20 YEARS, SO I WAS NEVER TRYING TO 00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:37.233 GO VIRAL. 00:31:37.333 --> 00:31:40.167 IT WAS JUST LIKE, LET ME DO WHAT I CAN OUT OF 00:31:40.267 --> 00:31:42.300 GRATITUDE FOR WHAT GOD DID FOR ME. 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:43.334 THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT STARTED. 00:31:43.434 --> 00:31:45.933 REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD. 00:31:46.033 --> 00:31:47.834 OKAY, SO THE QUESTION THAT WAS COMING TO ME IS 00:31:47.934 --> 00:31:50.067 BECAUSE YOU'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I WAS 00:31:50.167 --> 00:31:51.700 REJECT MY WHOLE LIFE. 00:31:51.800 --> 00:31:53.867 DON'T YOU FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WENT 00:31:53.967 --> 00:31:56.667 THROUGH LED UP TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW? 00:31:56.767 --> 00:31:57.900 GOD USED IT? 00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:58.533 MARCUS: OH, YEAH. 00:31:58.633 --> 00:31:59.667 EVERYTHING. 00:31:59.767 --> 00:32:01.133 REBECCA: CAN YOU KIND OF EXPOUND ON HOW YOU SEE IT 00:32:01.233 --> 00:32:03.100 CONNECTING, LOOKING BACK ON IT NOW BECAUSE YOU 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.700 DON'T SEE IT WHEN YOU'RE GROWING UP OR IN THE 00:32:04.800 --> 00:32:05.800 MOMENT. 00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:07.267 BUT EVEN WHEN I LOOK BACK ON MY OWN LIFE, IT MAKES 00:32:07.367 --> 00:32:07.967 SENSE. 00:32:08.067 --> 00:32:09.667 MARCUS: EVERY DETAIL. 00:32:09.767 --> 00:32:11.300 YOU KNOW, MY MOM, SOMETIMES SHE GETS A 00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.634 LITTLE BIT. 00:32:14.734 --> 00:32:17.400 I DON'T DOWN BECAUSE SHE BEAT THE BRAKES OFF OF US. 00:32:17.500 --> 00:32:21.034 I THINK MOST OF US LIKE IN OUR 30S, 40S WE A LOT OF 00:32:21.134 --> 00:32:22.101 US, WE GOT WHOOPED. 00:32:22.201 --> 00:32:24.701 YOU KNOW, I'D BE TELLING MY KIDS, LIKE, YOU GUYS 00:32:24.801 --> 00:32:25.634 HAVE NO IDEA. 00:32:25.734 --> 00:32:27.467 WE GOT WHOOPED WHEN I WAS GROWING UP. 00:32:27.567 --> 00:32:29.067 THEY COULD STILL WHIP YOU IN SCHOOL. 00:32:29.167 --> 00:32:30.467 THE TEACHER COULD TAKE YOU OUT THERE AND HIT YOU WITH 00:32:30.567 --> 00:32:32.434 THE PADDLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 00:32:32.534 --> 00:32:34.067 AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? 00:32:34.167 --> 00:32:36.334 I'VE ALWAYS HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY MOM 00:32:36.434 --> 00:32:37.234 LIKE, NO MOM. 00:32:37.334 --> 00:32:39.067 LIKE EVEN ME WORKING FOR THAT GUY. 00:32:39.167 --> 00:32:41.967 ALL OF THAT STUFF MADE ME THE WAY THAT I AM. 00:32:42.067 --> 00:32:44.801 AND EVEN THE MOST PAINFUL STUFF, THE DIVORCES, YOU 00:32:44.901 --> 00:32:47.634 KNOW, GETTING CHEATED ON, WHATEVER IT WAS THAT I 00:32:47.734 --> 00:32:50.167 WENT THROUGH AND UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE'S 00:32:50.267 --> 00:32:52.767 PAIN, IT GAVE ME A LOT OF I KNOW ON THE INTERNET, IT 00:32:52.867 --> 00:32:55.400 MIGHT LOOK LIKE I'M JUST THIS MEAN, LIKE HOLINESS. 00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:56.301 YOU GOTTA LIVE RIGHT, 00:32:56.401 --> 00:32:57.367 YOU GOT TO DO RIGHT. 00:32:57.467 --> 00:32:58.667 BUT WHEN I DEAL WITH INDIVIDUALS, I HAVE A LOT 00:32:58.767 --> 00:33:01.133 OF GRACE FOR THEM BECAUSE MY GOAL IS, OKAY, I SEE 00:33:01.233 --> 00:33:03.500 YOUR FRUIT, BUT WHAT IS THE ROOT OF IT? 00:33:03.600 --> 00:33:06.000 SO LET'S DIVE DEEPER AND GET TO THE ROOT OF WHY 00:33:06.100 --> 00:33:07.067 YOU'RE PRODUCING THAT FRUIT. 00:33:07.167 --> 00:33:08.934 I'M NOT GOING TO BASH YOU FOR THE FRUIT. 00:33:09.034 --> 00:33:11.034 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, EVEN IN THE LGBTQ 00:33:11.134 --> 00:33:13.167 COMMUNITY, WHEN YOU TALK TO THESE GUYS, A LOT OF 00:33:13.267 --> 00:33:15.800 THEM WERE ABUSED, A LOT OF THEM WERE MOLESTED. 00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:17.367 SO I'M NOT GOING TO JUST LOOK AT YOU FUNNY BECAUSE 00:33:17.467 --> 00:33:18.934 YOU'RE A CERTAIN WAY. 00:33:19.034 --> 00:33:20.867 LET'S GET TO THE ROOT OF THAT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, 00:33:20.967 --> 00:33:21.933 SOME DELIVERANCE. 00:33:22.033 --> 00:33:23.401 GET THE WORD IN THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 00:33:23.501 --> 00:33:24.967 AND SO I THINK THAT GOD TAKES EVERYBODY. 00:33:25.067 --> 00:33:27.201 HE'S THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH, AND 00:33:27.301 --> 00:33:28.700 HE'S THE ALPHA AND OMEGA. 00:33:28.800 --> 00:33:31.567 AND THAT MEANS HE SITS OUTSIDE OF TIME AND SPACE. 00:33:31.667 --> 00:33:35.734 SO BEFORE WE EVER EXISTED AND HE'S ETERNAL, HE THE 00:33:35.834 --> 00:33:38.200 BIBLE SAYS IN COLOSSIANS, HE CREATED ALL THINGS. 00:33:38.300 --> 00:33:40.234 SO WHEN HE SPOKE, EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS WAS 00:33:40.334 --> 00:33:41.334 ALREADY IN HIM. 00:33:41.434 --> 00:33:43.667 HE SIMPLY RELEASED IT THROUGH A WORD. 00:33:43.767 --> 00:33:45.467 SO THAT'S WHY HE'S QUALIFIED TO SAY ALL 00:33:45.567 --> 00:33:48.300 THINGS WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE HE'S THERE BEFORE 00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:49.700 YOU WERE EVER THERE AT THE BEGINNING. 00:33:49.800 --> 00:33:51.667 HE'S HERE IN THE MIDDLE AND HE'S ALREADY AT THE 00:33:51.767 --> 00:33:52.833 END. 00:33:52.933 --> 00:33:54.367 AND SO ESSENTIALLY HE'S AT ALL PLACES AT ALL TIMES 00:33:54.467 --> 00:33:56.167 OUTSIDE OF TIME AND SPACE. 00:33:56.267 --> 00:33:57.800 SO HE ALREADY KNOWS HOW THE END OF YOUR LIFE IS 00:33:57.900 --> 00:33:58.667 GOING TO GO. 00:33:58.767 --> 00:33:59.933 AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS FAITH. 00:34:00.033 --> 00:34:01.167 SO HE SAYS, KEEP COMING, KEEP COMING, KEEP COMING, 00:34:01.267 --> 00:34:01.800 KEEP COMING. 00:34:01.900 --> 00:34:02.634 IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY. 00:34:02.734 --> 00:34:03.867 IT'S GOING TO BE A TESTIMONY. 00:34:03.967 --> 00:34:06.333 SO EVERY LITTLE DETAIL, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR A 00:34:06.433 --> 00:34:07.033 REASON. 00:34:07.133 --> 00:34:07.967 ALL THINGS. 00:34:08.067 --> 00:34:09.167 MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T BELIEVE THIS. 00:34:09.267 --> 00:34:10.967 ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THEM THAT 00:34:11.067 --> 00:34:12.634 LOVE HIM AND ARE CALLED ACCORDING TO HIS PURPOSE. 00:34:12.734 --> 00:34:14.833 AND SO IN ALL OF YOUR PAIN AND ALL OF YOUR 00:34:14.933 --> 00:34:17.734 HEARTBREAK AND EVERYTHING OF YOUR LIFE, YOU CAN FIND 00:34:17.834 --> 00:34:19.767 GOD SAYING, IF YOU LOOK FOR IT. 00:34:19.867 --> 00:34:22.200 REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD, THAT'S SO WELL SAID. 00:34:22.300 --> 00:34:24.401 YOU DON'T SEE YOURSELF AS REJECTED NOW, THOUGH. 00:34:24.501 --> 00:34:25.334 MARCUS: OH YEAH. 00:34:25.434 --> 00:34:26.900 STILL, I STILL DEAL WITH REJECTION. 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.200 REBECCA: BUT NOT, 00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:30.833 BUT DO YOU SEE YOURSELF AS ACCEPTED IN CHRIST? 00:34:30.933 --> 00:34:31.334 MARCUS: YES. 00:34:31.434 --> 00:34:32.134 OF COURSE. 00:34:32.234 --> 00:34:33.067 REBECCA: OKAY. 00:34:33.167 --> 00:34:34.267 BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE KILLING MY HEART. 00:34:34.367 --> 00:34:36.467 MARCUS: AS LONG AS I GOT GOD, WE'RE ROCKING 00:34:36.567 --> 00:34:37.167 OUT. YEAH. 00:34:37.267 --> 00:34:38.233 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:34:38.333 --> 00:34:41.334 ACCEPTANCE FROM ANYONE ELSE DOESN'T MATTER AS 00:34:41.434 --> 00:34:42.500 LONG AS WE HAVE ACCEPTANCE IN CHRIST. 00:34:42.600 --> 00:34:43.434 BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, I WAS REJECTED MY WHOLE LIFE, 00:34:43.534 --> 00:34:44.534 BUT I'M LIKE, BUT YOU'RE ACCEPTED NOW. 00:34:44.634 --> 00:34:46.267 AND I WAS LIKE, DID YOU GET THAT BREAKTHROUGH IN 00:34:46.367 --> 00:34:49.833 YOUR IDENTITY? 00:34:49.933 --> 00:34:51.134 MARCUS: YES. 00:34:51.234 --> 00:34:53.467 YOU KNOW, IN A SENSE, LIKE, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS 00:34:53.567 --> 00:34:54.967 WANTED TO BE A FAMILY. 00:34:55.067 --> 00:34:57.134 SO WHEN I LOOK AT CHRISTIANITY, IT'S LIKE, 00:34:57.234 --> 00:34:58.933 MAN, I WANT TO BE A FAMILY, BUT I DON'T WANT 00:34:59.033 --> 00:35:00.734 TO COMPROMISE, TO BE A FAMILY. 00:35:00.834 --> 00:35:02.001 THAT'S THAT'S THE ISSUE. 00:35:02.101 --> 00:35:05.901 I DON'T WANT TO FAKE WHO I AM IN ORDER TO HAVE UNITY, 00:35:06.001 --> 00:35:07.100 BECAUSE THEN TO ME, IT'S NOT REAL. 00:35:07.200 --> 00:35:09.367 THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOKING AT A WOMAN, YOU 00:35:09.467 --> 00:35:11.267 KNOW, AND YOU'RE TELLING HER YOU LOVE HER, BUT 00:35:11.367 --> 00:35:12.934 YOU'RE LYING TO HER, YOU'RE NOT BEING HONEST. 00:35:13.034 --> 00:35:14.433 AND NOW YOU'RE IN THIS RELATIONSHIP AND IT'S ALL 00:35:14.533 --> 00:35:15.533 FAKE. 00:35:15.633 --> 00:35:18.334 AND SO PART OF THE ISSUE IS WHAT GOD HAS CALLED ME 00:35:18.434 --> 00:35:19.500 TO DO AND TOLD ME TO DO. 00:35:19.600 --> 00:35:21.101 A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT. 00:35:21.201 --> 00:35:22.367 I GET MISUNDERSTOOD. 00:35:22.467 --> 00:35:24.234 SO THEN IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHETHER IT'S 00:35:24.334 --> 00:35:27.167 THE POLITICAL STUFF, TALKING ABOUT THE LGBTQ 00:35:27.267 --> 00:35:28.767 STUFF, TALKING ABOUT ISLAM, LIKE A LOT OF 00:35:28.867 --> 00:35:30.600 PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT KIND OF STUFF. 00:35:30.700 --> 00:35:32.100 I THINK A LOT OF CHRISTIANS, THEY WANT TO 00:35:32.200 --> 00:35:34.734 JUST BE IN THIS LITTLE BUBBLE, WHICH IS EXACTLY 00:35:34.834 --> 00:35:37.433 WHAT THE BIBLE WARNS ABOUT IN THE LAST DAYS ITCHING 00:35:37.533 --> 00:35:38.267 EARS. 00:35:38.367 --> 00:35:39.400 I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:40.334 I DON'T WANT TO TALK. 00:35:40.434 --> 00:35:41.500 TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN. 00:35:41.600 --> 00:35:42.900 THE DEVIL WANTS THAT. 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.267 HE WANTS US TO BE SILENT WHILE HE'S IN THERE IN THE 00:35:46.367 --> 00:35:47.234 LEGISLATION. 00:35:47.334 --> 00:35:48.634 HE'S IN THERE IN THE EDUCATION. 00:35:48.734 --> 00:35:50.500 HE'S IN THERE IN ALL THESE PLACES. 00:35:50.600 --> 00:35:52.867 AND SO I THINK EVERYTHING THAT I WENT THROUGH CAUSED 00:35:52.967 --> 00:35:56.867 ME TO BE THE REJECT, EVEN WITH MY PASTOR IN 00:35:56.967 --> 00:35:59.867 VIRGINIA, RIGHT BEFORE HE WAS GETTING READY TO KIND 00:35:59.967 --> 00:36:01.534 OF TAKE ME UNDER HIS WING. 00:36:01.634 --> 00:36:03.933 I'M SO LOYAL, I WOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT VIRGINIA. 00:36:04.033 --> 00:36:05.633 I WOULD STILL BE THERE TO THIS DAY. 00:36:05.733 --> 00:36:07.667 AND I GOT ORDERS TO GO TO SOUTH KOREA RIGHT BEFORE 00:36:07.767 --> 00:36:09.767 MY PASTOR, LIKE, FULLY EMBRACED ME. 00:36:09.867 --> 00:36:10.767 AND GOD KNEW. 00:36:10.867 --> 00:36:12.433 AND I WAS LIKE, I REMEMBER, I CRIED, I SAID, 00:36:12.533 --> 00:36:15.700 GOD, WHY AM I GOING TO KOREA RIGHT NOW WHEN I'M 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.200 FINALLY GETTING I'VE BEEN I WAS AT THE CHURCH FOR 11 00:36:18.300 --> 00:36:19.267 YEARS. 00:36:19.367 --> 00:36:22.034 I SAID, I'M FINALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME GETTING 00:36:22.134 --> 00:36:22.567 ACCEPTED. 00:36:22.667 --> 00:36:23.700 NOPE. 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.434 WENT TO SOUTH KOREA AND ACTUALLY IN SOUTH KOREA 00:36:25.534 --> 00:36:27.301 WAS LIKE THE WORST, BEST YEAR OF MY LIFE. 00:36:27.401 --> 00:36:29.401 THAT'S WHERE MY MINISTRY TOOK OFF. 00:36:29.501 --> 00:36:31.034 REBECCA: CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? 00:36:31.134 --> 00:36:32.200 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:36:32.300 --> 00:36:33.367 SO PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS WERE HAPPENING 00:36:33.467 --> 00:36:36.033 WITH THE MARRIAGE THAT WAS LIKE REALLY HEARTBREAKING. 00:36:36.133 --> 00:36:37.500 NOTHING I COULD DO ABOUT IT. 00:36:37.600 --> 00:36:39.467 YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD AND 00:36:39.567 --> 00:36:41.001 DIFFERENT THINGS ARE GOING ON. 00:36:41.101 --> 00:36:43.334 BUT THE WHOLE TIME I WOULD JUST WHILE I WAS IN KOREA, 00:36:43.434 --> 00:36:45.300 I WOULD GO UP THE MOUNTAIN, PUT MY 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.600 HEADPHONES ON, AND I HATE MY ARMY BUDDIES, YOU KNOW, 00:36:50.700 --> 00:36:51.800 THAT MIGHT STUMBLE ACROSS THIS. 00:36:51.900 --> 00:36:53.433 I'M NOT TELLING ON YOU, BUT I'M TELLING ON SOME OF 00:36:53.533 --> 00:36:54.634 Y'ALL. 00:36:54.734 --> 00:36:56.300 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITIES YOU COULD DO IN 00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:57.167 KOREA. 00:36:57.267 --> 00:36:58.000 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:36:58.100 --> 00:36:59.134 LIKE. 00:36:59.234 --> 00:37:00.234 AND ME, I'M JUST, LIKE, LOCKED IN WITH GOD, LIKE, 00:37:00.334 --> 00:37:01.300 MAN, LET'S GO DO THIS. 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:01.967 LET'S GO DO THAT. 00:37:02.067 --> 00:37:03.100 LET'S GO DO THAT. 00:37:03.200 --> 00:37:05.400 AND YOUR FLESH IS LIKE, YEAH, MAN, LET ME GO DO 00:37:05.500 --> 00:37:05.901 THIS. 00:37:06.001 --> 00:37:07.034 GO FEEL BETTER. 00:37:07.134 --> 00:37:08.567 AND I WAS LIKE, NAH, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I 00:37:08.667 --> 00:37:11.000 WENT THROUGH THAT, THE SHOOTOUTS, ALL THAT STUFF 00:37:11.100 --> 00:37:13.667 LIKE, NO, I GOT TO LOCK IN WITH GOD THIS TIME. 00:37:13.767 --> 00:37:15.367 AND SO I WOULD JUST GO UP THE MOUNTAIN, PUT MY 00:37:15.467 --> 00:37:17.400 HEADPHONES ON EVERY DAY, JUST PRAY. 00:37:17.500 --> 00:37:19.800 AND I KEPT DOING THESE VIDEOS AND THEY JUST 00:37:19.900 --> 00:37:21.334 STARTED BLOWING UP LIKE CRAZY. 00:37:21.434 --> 00:37:23.801 25 MILLION, 10 MILLION GOING. 00:37:23.901 --> 00:37:26.933 AND I JUST SAW GOD'S HAND AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. 00:37:27.033 --> 00:37:28.934 I CRY MYSELF TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT BECAUSE OF 00:37:29.034 --> 00:37:30.467 WHAT WAS GOING ON LIKE. 00:37:30.567 --> 00:37:31.500 IT WAS HORRIBLE. 00:37:31.600 --> 00:37:33.633 IT WAS LIKE THE MOST PAIN I HAD EVER BEEN IN. 00:37:33.733 --> 00:37:35.600 AND I DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT A LOT ONLINE 00:37:35.700 --> 00:37:37.634 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE 00:37:37.734 --> 00:37:39.401 INVOLVED AND YOU HAVE TO COVER THEM. 00:37:39.501 --> 00:37:41.867 BUT I'M LIKE, GOD, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? 00:37:41.967 --> 00:37:44.700 LIKE MY WHOLE LIFE SUCKS. 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.300 BUT THEN I SAW HIS HAND AND IT'S LIKE JUST THE 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:48.801 VIDEOS WERE BLESSING PEOPLE. 00:37:48.901 --> 00:37:50.567 AND I SAW HE WAS DOING SOMETHING. 00:37:50.667 --> 00:37:52.100 AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT REAL 00:37:52.200 --> 00:37:53.234 QUICK. 00:37:53.334 --> 00:37:55.267 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THAT PAIN IN THEIR LIFE, THAT'S 00:37:55.367 --> 00:37:56.534 WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUSH THROUGH. 00:37:56.634 --> 00:37:58.767 AND THE LORD GAVE ME THIS MANY YEARS AGO, RIGHT. 00:37:58.867 --> 00:38:01.734 THE LABOR PAINS PRODUCED LATTER RAINS. 00:38:01.834 --> 00:38:03.200 IF YOU IF YOU PUSH THROUGH. 00:38:03.300 --> 00:38:05.167 AND WHAT THE DEVIL WANTS YOU TO DO IS SPIRITUAL 00:38:05.267 --> 00:38:07.267 ABORTION, HE'S TRYING TO GET YOU TO JUST KILL IT IN 00:38:07.367 --> 00:38:09.034 THE MOMENT, QUIT AND GIVE UP. 00:38:09.134 --> 00:38:09.900 BUT I PUSHED THROUGH. 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.801 AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE. 00:38:11.901 --> 00:38:13.500 REBECCA: YEAH, YEAH. 00:38:13.600 --> 00:38:15.067 I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THAT A LOT OF 00:38:15.167 --> 00:38:17.200 TIMES WHEN PEOPLE HAVE LIKE OUTSIDE WHAT THE 00:38:17.300 --> 00:38:19.067 WORLD VIEWS SUCCESS, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, LIKE THE 00:38:19.167 --> 00:38:21.900 PROCESS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WENT THROUGH. 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.801 AND WHILE YOU WERE HAVING LIKE ALL OF THIS, WHAT THE 00:38:23.901 --> 00:38:25.667 WORLD WOULD CALL SUCCESS. 00:38:25.767 --> 00:38:27.234 AND I MEAN, OF COURSE, SUCCESS IN THE EYES OF THE 00:38:27.334 --> 00:38:28.633 LORD BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING HIS WILL. 00:38:28.733 --> 00:38:33.234 BUT INTERNALLY, YOU WERE GOING THROUGH SO MUCH AT 00:38:33.334 --> 00:38:34.334 THE SAME TIME. 00:38:34.434 --> 00:38:37.800 WOW, THAT IS SUCH A GOOD WORD THOUGH, AND I FEEL 00:38:37.900 --> 00:38:39.467 LIKE I'VE LEARNED THE SAME THING. 00:38:39.567 --> 00:38:42.067 AND I'M SO THANKFUL THERE'S BEEN SO MANY TIMES 00:38:42.167 --> 00:38:45.033 IN MY OWN CALLING I'VE WANTED TO GIVE UP, AND IF 00:38:45.133 --> 00:38:47.201 I JUST COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU AND IF I COULD 00:38:47.301 --> 00:38:49.667 TELL ANYONE ANYTHING, IT'S LIKE, DON'T GIVE UP AND IT 00:38:49.767 --> 00:38:50.601 WILL GET BETTER. 00:38:50.701 --> 00:38:51.634 IT DOES. 00:38:51.734 --> 00:38:52.701 THINGS DO GET BETTER. 00:38:52.801 --> 00:38:54.800 GOD DOES WORK THINGS OUT, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUSH 00:38:54.900 --> 00:38:56.467 THROUGH IT, RIGHT? 00:38:56.567 --> 00:38:57.834 I MEAN, I'VE GIVEN BIRTH TO THREE KIDS. 00:38:57.934 --> 00:38:59.067 IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT. 00:38:59.167 --> 00:39:01.434 NO MATTER HOW MUCH PAIN YOU'RE IN OR HOW HARD IT 00:39:01.534 --> 00:39:03.600 IS, IT'S LIKE YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT FOR 00:39:03.700 --> 00:39:05.267 THE BABY TO COME, YOU KNOW? 00:39:05.367 --> 00:39:06.401 AND YOU CAN'T GIVE UP. 00:39:06.501 --> 00:39:07.967 YOU HAVE TO COMMIT. 00:39:08.067 --> 00:39:10.401 AND SO YOU CAN'T. 00:39:10.501 --> 00:39:15.367 DON'T DO YOURSELF A DISSERVICE BY EXITING THE 00:39:15.467 --> 00:39:17.967 PATH THAT GOD HAS YOU ON FOR YOUR CALLING. 00:39:18.067 --> 00:39:19.467 THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING THOUGH. 00:39:19.567 --> 00:39:20.800 SO IT WAS IN KOREA. 00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:22.233 SO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE YOUR 00:39:22.333 --> 00:39:24.000 EXPERIENCE IN THE MILITARY, WHERE YOU'RE 00:39:24.100 --> 00:39:26.233 FINALLY ABLE TO KIND OF LOCK IN WITH THE LORD AND 00:39:26.333 --> 00:39:28.567 THEN YOU START MAKING CONTENT. 00:39:28.667 --> 00:39:30.867 CAN YOU TELL A STORY ABOUT THE TRASH CAN? 00:39:30.967 --> 00:39:32.067 MARCUS: YEAH FOR SURE. 00:39:32.167 --> 00:39:35.834 SO THAT WAS THAT WAS RIGHT BEFORE RIGHT BEFORE KOREA, 00:39:35.934 --> 00:39:37.000 LITERALLY. 00:39:37.100 --> 00:39:38.767 SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MADE THAT SITUATION SO HARD. 00:39:38.867 --> 00:39:42.334 I WAS IN VIRGINIA AND ONE NIGHT AFTER WE HAD LIKE 00:39:42.434 --> 00:39:44.401 THESE ARMY FOOTBALL GAMES, I FELT LIKE THE HOLY 00:39:44.501 --> 00:39:46.101 SPIRIT WAS LIKE, I WANT YOU TO GO TO YOUR OFFICE 00:39:46.201 --> 00:39:49.300 AND YOUR MILITARY OFFICE. 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.300 SO THAT WAS ALREADY LIKE, WAIT, WHAT? 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:52.767 YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA GET IN TROUBLE, OR, YOU KNOW, 00:39:52.867 --> 00:39:53.801 SOMEBODY'S GONNA LOOK AT ME FUNNY. 00:39:53.901 --> 00:39:54.967 WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE? 00:39:55.067 --> 00:39:57.033 BUT I KNEW THAT VOICE, SO I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LET 00:39:57.133 --> 00:39:58.100 ME GO. 00:39:58.200 --> 00:39:59.234 AND WHEN I GOT THERE, THERE WAS ONE OF THOSE 00:39:59.334 --> 00:40:01.534 LITTLE GRAY TRASH CANS SITTING IN THE CORNER, AND 00:40:01.634 --> 00:40:03.201 THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS LIKE, FILL IT UP WITH WATER ALL 00:40:03.301 --> 00:40:04.333 THE WAY TO THE TOP. 00:40:04.433 --> 00:40:06.967 AND I'M LIKE, ALL RIGHT, NOW, MIND YOU, I'VE NEVER 00:40:07.067 --> 00:40:09.867 HAD A VIDEO GET MORE THAN TWO, FIVE, TEN VIEWS AT 00:40:09.967 --> 00:40:10.867 THIS POINT. 00:40:10.967 --> 00:40:12.600 BUT I KNEW THAT VOICE. 00:40:12.700 --> 00:40:14.734 AND IMMEDIATELY, ONE OF THE REASONS YOU KNOW IT'S 00:40:14.834 --> 00:40:17.301 GOD IS BECAUSE THAT FEAR WILL COME. 00:40:17.401 --> 00:40:18.001 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:40:18.101 --> 00:40:18.634 AND YOUR 00:40:18.734 --> 00:40:19.734 FLESH IS LIKE... 00:40:19.834 --> 00:40:21.900 MARCUS: YEP, THAT FEAR WAS LIKE, YOU'RE CRAZY. 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.034 ALL YOUR FACEBOOK FRIENDS THAT ARE IN THE ARMY, 00:40:24.134 --> 00:40:25.333 THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A CALL. 00:40:25.433 --> 00:40:27.367 THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A PSYCHE VALUE ON YOU. 00:40:27.467 --> 00:40:29.533 YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT IS THIS DUDE DOING? 00:40:29.633 --> 00:40:30.633 BUT I FILLED IT UP WITH WATER. 00:40:30.733 --> 00:40:32.001 AND THEN I FELT LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS LIKE, NOW 00:40:32.101 --> 00:40:34.000 STICK YOUR HEAD IN THERE, PRESS RECORD ON THE 00:40:34.100 --> 00:40:37.467 CAMERA, AND DON'T TAKE YOUR HEAD UP UNTIL YOU 00:40:37.567 --> 00:40:38.633 CAN'T BREATHE ANYMORE. 00:40:38.733 --> 00:40:41.600 AND I'M REALLY, LIKE, GOING CRAZY IN MY MIND, 00:40:41.700 --> 00:40:42.667 LIKE. 00:40:42.767 --> 00:40:43.467 AND THERE'S THIS FIGHT LIKE, BRO, YOU'RE CRAZY. 00:40:43.567 --> 00:40:44.333 YOU'RE CRAZY. 00:40:44.433 --> 00:40:46.233 LIKE, THAT'S NOT GOD, THAT'S WEIRD. 00:40:46.333 --> 00:40:48.767 LIKE WEIRDO CHRISTIANITY, BUT THAT'S WEIRD. 00:40:48.867 --> 00:40:53.201 AND I STUCK MY HEAD IN THE WATER AND I JUST HELD IT, 00:40:53.301 --> 00:40:54.600 LIKE, AS LONG AS I COULD. 00:40:54.700 --> 00:40:57.567 AND I REMEMBER THE SAME FEELING WHEN I WAS ON 00:40:57.633 --> 00:40:58.633 THAT BRIDGE. 00:40:58.733 --> 00:41:00.633 IT WAS LIKE OIL WAS LIKE RUNNING DOWN MY BACK, AND 00:41:00.733 --> 00:41:03.567 IT'S LIKE A WARM SENSATION, AND ANY, ANY PREACHER 00:41:03.667 --> 00:41:04.533 KNOWS 00:41:04.633 --> 00:41:06.300 THERE'S LIKE THIS PLACE THAT YOU CAN GO. 00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.634 IT'S LIKE AUTOPILOT AND IT'S LIKE YOUR BODY IS OFF 00:41:08.734 --> 00:41:10.833 AND YOU JUST FEEL THE SPIRIT TAKE OVER. 00:41:10.933 --> 00:41:12.267 AND WHEN MY HEAD CAME OUT THE WATER, I DIDN'T KNOW 00:41:12.367 --> 00:41:13.667 WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. 00:41:13.767 --> 00:41:16.967 AND IT'S LIKE, YOU GOTTA WANT GOD AS BAD AS YOU 00:41:17.067 --> 00:41:18.533 WANT TO BREATHE. 00:41:18.633 --> 00:41:20.333 AND IT JUST I JUST FLOWED AND I THINK I PREACHED FOR 00:41:20.433 --> 00:41:23.100 LIKE 7 OR 8 MINUTES, AND I FELT LIKE THAT FIRE IN MY 00:41:23.200 --> 00:41:26.234 BONES AND MY VEINS, IT WAS LIKE THE BEST FEELING IN 00:41:26.334 --> 00:41:27.400 THE WORLD. 00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:31.401 PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME THAT I FELT LIKE, WOW, I'M 00:41:31.501 --> 00:41:33.900 DOING WHAT I WAS CREATED TO DO, AND THERE WAS NO 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.534 EXPECTATION OF GOING VIRAL. 00:41:35.634 --> 00:41:37.800 THERE WAS NO EXPECTATION OF ANYTHING. 00:41:37.900 --> 00:41:39.600 ACTUALLY, I WAS ACTUALLY AFRAID. 00:41:39.700 --> 00:41:42.667 AND EVEN AFTER THE FEELING WAS GONE, IT WAS LIKE, I 00:41:42.767 --> 00:41:44.267 DON'T WANT TO POST THIS. 00:41:44.367 --> 00:41:45.534 I'M GONNA GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE ARMY. 00:41:45.634 --> 00:41:46.967 THEY'RE GONNA THINK I'M AN IDIOT. 00:41:47.067 --> 00:41:49.601 AND I POSTED IT AND LIKE IMMEDIATELY 10,000. 00:41:49.701 --> 00:41:50.333 THEN I LOOKED AGAIN. 00:41:50.433 --> 00:41:51.067 30,000. 00:41:51.167 --> 00:41:52.200 THEN I LOOKED AGAIN. 00:41:52.300 --> 00:41:54.333 WORLD STAR SHARED IT, THIS PERSON SHARED IT, THIS 00:41:54.433 --> 00:41:55.434 PERSON SHARED IT. 00:41:55.534 --> 00:41:56.934 AND THEN IT'S JUST MILLIONS OF VIEWS, LIKE 00:41:57.034 --> 00:42:00.067 30,000 FOLLOWERS LIKE PROBABLY IN A WEEK. 00:42:00.167 --> 00:42:01.534 AND YEAH, FROM THERE. 00:42:01.634 --> 00:42:02.634 REBECCA: IT'S TAKEN OFF. 00:42:02.734 --> 00:42:03.700 HOWM WHERE 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:04.667 YOU AT NOW? 00:42:04.767 --> 00:42:06.867 HOW DO YOU MANAGE? 00:42:06.967 --> 00:42:09.467 DO YOU FEEL PRESSURE TO PERFORM? 00:42:09.567 --> 00:42:11.867 DO YOU FEEL PRESSURE FOR VIDEOS TO DO WELL? 00:42:11.967 --> 00:42:15.401 HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THE SPACE THAT YOU'RE IN NOW? 00:42:15.501 --> 00:42:18.533 MARCUS: IT'S TRICKY FOR ME BECAUSE I THINK WHAT A LOT 00:42:18.633 --> 00:42:20.767 OF PEOPLE DO NOW, PEOPLE HATE WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT 00:42:20.867 --> 00:42:22.434 THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS LIKE, I WAS LIKE ONE OF 00:42:22.534 --> 00:42:24.267 THE FIRST GUYS PREACHING ON THE INTERNET. 00:42:24.367 --> 00:42:27.100 THAT WASN'T A THING WHEN I FIRST STARTED DOING THAT. 00:42:27.200 --> 00:42:28.533 PEOPLE WERE LIKE, THAT'S WEIRD. 00:42:28.633 --> 00:42:30.034 LIKE PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT ANYMORE 00:42:30.134 --> 00:42:31.333 BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S DOING IT. 00:42:31.433 --> 00:42:33.201 REBECCA: YES, THERE WAS A PHASE THERE, LIKE 00:42:33.301 --> 00:42:34.900 THE ORIGINALS, JUST LIKE THE KIND OF THE 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.700 ORIGINAL YOUTUBERS THAT WOULD VLOG THERE WAS 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.067 ALWAYS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST FAMILY INFLUENCERS 00:42:40.167 --> 00:42:41.400 FIRST, INFLUENCERS FIRST. 00:42:41.500 --> 00:42:43.700 YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TIME WHERE NO ONE WAS 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:44.501 DOING THAT. 00:42:44.601 --> 00:42:45.567 SO THAT IS A THING. 00:42:45.667 --> 00:42:46.433 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:42:46.533 --> 00:42:47.533 PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER IT LIKE SO. 00:42:47.633 --> 00:42:48.333 REBECCA: BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES IT NOW. 00:42:48.433 --> 00:42:49.300 MARCUS: NOW. 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:50.234 YEAH, I WAS I WAS PREACHING IN THE WOODS 00:42:50.334 --> 00:42:51.567 PREACHING BATHROOM. 00:42:51.667 --> 00:42:52.633 IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE COMMENTS LIKE, THAT'S SO 00:42:52.733 --> 00:42:54.433 WEIRD, YOU SHOULD PREACH IN CHURCH, WHY ARE YOU 00:42:54.533 --> 00:42:55.801 PREACHING ONLINE? 00:42:55.901 --> 00:42:57.101 AND THEN REALLY, WHAT SHIFTED? 00:42:57.201 --> 00:42:58.167 IT WAS COVID. 00:42:58.267 --> 00:43:00.067 AND I REMEMBER EVEN PASTORS WERE LIKE, THAT'S 00:43:00.167 --> 00:43:01.167 WEIRD. 00:43:01.267 --> 00:43:02.500 AND THEN WHEN COVID, IT WAS LIKE, OH, JOIN OUR 00:43:02.600 --> 00:43:04.133 LIVE STREAM FOR THE SERVICE AND THINGS LIKE 00:43:04.233 --> 00:43:05.234 THAT. 00:43:05.334 --> 00:43:08.300 AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:10.067 FLIPPED IT AND TURNED IT AROUND, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M 00:43:10.167 --> 00:43:10.934 SAYING? 00:43:11.034 --> 00:43:13.000 BUT IT WAS LIKE A BIG THAT STRANGE. 00:43:13.100 --> 00:43:15.433 AND SO ANYWAYS, FOR ME, I DO MUSIC, I DO A LOT OF 00:43:15.533 --> 00:43:16.167 DIFFERENT THINGS. 00:43:16.267 --> 00:43:17.467 I TALK ABOUT POLITICS. 00:43:17.567 --> 00:43:19.801 WHERE IT STARTED WAS THE MOTIVATIONAL PREACHING. 00:43:19.901 --> 00:43:22.267 SO IN THE BEGINNING AND YEAH, 00:43:22.367 --> 00:43:23.800 EVERYBODY LOVES YOU IN THE BEGINNING. 00:43:23.900 --> 00:43:25.101 THAT'S WHY WHEN I LOOK AT LIKE PHILLIP ANTHONY 00:43:25.201 --> 00:43:26.367 MITCHELL, A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, I SAY 00:43:26.467 --> 00:43:29.067 THEY ALWAYS LOVE YOU FOR LIKE THE FIRST YEAR OR 00:43:29.167 --> 00:43:30.067 TWO. 00:43:30.167 --> 00:43:31.167 BUT THEN AS THEY GET TO SEE MORE OF YOUR 00:43:31.267 --> 00:43:33.067 PERSPECTIVES ON CERTAIN THINGS, THEN YOU START 00:43:33.167 --> 00:43:34.900 SEEING THE HATE COME OUT BECAUSE YOU CAN NEVER 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:36.367 PLEASE EVERYBODY. 00:43:36.467 --> 00:43:37.267 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:43:37.367 --> 00:43:38.567 AND THE INTERNET'S JUST LIKE THAT. 00:43:38.667 --> 00:43:40.134 AND IT'S GOTTEN WORSE. 00:43:40.234 --> 00:43:42.800 IT'S WORSE NOW THAN EVEN LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO. 00:43:42.900 --> 00:43:45.100 AND SO IT IS VERY MUCH MOB MENTALITY. 00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:47.267 SO THE INTERNET CAN TURN ON YOU LIKE THAT. 00:43:47.367 --> 00:43:49.434 ALMOST ANYONE I FOLLOW, EVEN PEOPLE I FOLLOW, THAT 00:43:49.534 --> 00:43:51.534 MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE BELIEVERS THAT ARE LIKE 00:43:51.634 --> 00:43:53.301 LIFESTYLE INFLUENCERS. 00:43:53.401 --> 00:43:55.367 I'VE SEEN THE INTERNET TURN ON THEM OVER SOME OF 00:43:55.467 --> 00:43:58.801 THE MOST SEEMINGLY RANDOM THINGS. 00:43:58.901 --> 00:44:00.734 AND SO, I MEAN, YEAH, THE INTERNET WILL TURN ON YOU 00:44:00.834 --> 00:44:01.667 AT SOME POINT. 00:44:01.767 --> 00:44:02.734 MARCUS: AND PEOPLE ARE MISERABLE. 00:44:02.834 --> 00:44:03.367 REBECCA: YES. 00:44:03.467 --> 00:44:04.367 AND THEY'RE MEAN. 00:44:04.467 --> 00:44:06.401 THEY'RE SO MEAN. 00:44:06.501 --> 00:44:08.967 LIKE I'M JUST I MEAN, I HAVEN'T EVEN EXPERIENCED 00:44:09.067 --> 00:44:10.101 WHAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED. 00:44:10.201 --> 00:44:12.433 I'VE EXPERIENCED AND I'VE JUST LEARNED NOT TO. 00:44:12.533 --> 00:44:14.001 I REALLY LEARNED KIND OF NOT TO LOOK AT IT OR TAKE 00:44:14.101 --> 00:44:17.367 ANY OF IT PERSONALLY AND NOT TO ENGAGE ANY OF IT 00:44:17.467 --> 00:44:18.101 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT IT. 00:44:18.201 --> 00:44:19.534 BUT PEOPLE ARE MISERABLE. 00:44:19.634 --> 00:44:22.901 BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, WHAT'S CRAZY IS I'M LIKE, YOU'RE 00:44:23.001 --> 00:44:25.234 SUPPOSED TO BE A CHRISTIAN, RIGHT? 00:44:25.334 --> 00:44:27.834 WOULD YOU SAY THIS IN PUBLIC TO MY FACE? 00:44:27.934 --> 00:44:29.267 PROBABLY NOT. 00:44:29.367 --> 00:44:31.267 AND I'M LIKE, THIS IS NOT BIBLICAL. 00:44:31.367 --> 00:44:33.634 LIKE, THIS IS NOT OKAY BY THE WORD, LIKE THE 00:44:33.734 --> 00:44:34.667 STANDARD OF GOD'S WORD. 00:44:34.767 --> 00:44:37.133 SO WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS OKAY FOR YOU TO SAY 00:44:37.233 --> 00:44:39.334 IT'S CRAZY TO ME. 00:44:39.434 --> 00:44:40.433 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:44:40.533 --> 00:44:42.334 I THINK YOU KNOW THE MAN IN ME. 00:44:42.434 --> 00:44:44.300 SO I'VE HAD PEOPLE PULL UP AT THE CHURCH WANTING TO 00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:45.867 FIGHT ME. 00:44:45.967 --> 00:44:48.067 JUST ACTUALLY THIS WEEKEND WE HAD A GUY WE CAUGHT ON 00:44:48.167 --> 00:44:49.133 CAMERA. 00:44:49.233 --> 00:44:51.467 HE CAME TO CHURCH AND JUST THREW TRASH OVER 00:44:51.567 --> 00:44:52.533 EVERYTHING. 00:44:52.633 --> 00:44:54.067 AND HE'S, LIKE, THROWING STUFF AT THE GLASS, LIKE 00:44:54.167 --> 00:44:55.734 HE'S TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, BREAK THE GLASS AND STUFF 00:44:55.834 --> 00:44:56.834 LIKE THAT. 00:44:56.934 --> 00:44:59.367 AND SO THE FLESHLY SIDE OF ME, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A 00:44:59.467 --> 00:44:59.867 FIGHTER. 00:44:59.967 --> 00:45:01.033 THAT'S ONE THING. 00:45:01.133 --> 00:45:03.100 AND SO IT'S LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S HARD NOT TO GET IN 00:45:03.200 --> 00:45:07.134 YOUR FLESH BECAUSE WHEN I SEE, YOU KNOW, MEN TALKING 00:45:07.234 --> 00:45:08.467 A CERTAIN WAY IN THE COMMENTS LIKE, BRO, WOULD 00:45:08.567 --> 00:45:10.100 YOU REALLY SAY THIS IN MY FACE? 00:45:10.200 --> 00:45:11.600 WOULD YOU HAVE THIS ENERGY? 00:45:11.700 --> 00:45:13.534 YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT I DON'T THINK 00:45:13.634 --> 00:45:14.700 YOU WOULD. 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:15.933 YOU KNOW, THEY SAY TWITTER FINGERS AND YOU KNOW, THE 00:45:16.033 --> 00:45:18.367 WHOLE KEYBOARD WARRIOR, STUFF LIKE THAT. 00:45:18.467 --> 00:45:21.300 BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS BECAUSE I DO A LOT OF 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:22.401 DIFFERENT THINGS. 00:45:22.501 --> 00:45:23.800 SO SOME PEOPLE ONLY FOLLOW ME FOR THE POLITICAL 00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:24.834 STUFF. 00:45:24.934 --> 00:45:26.067 SOME PEOPLE ONLY FOLLOW ME FOR THIS, THIS. 00:45:26.167 --> 00:45:27.101 SO IT'S LIKE. 00:45:27.201 --> 00:45:27.634 REBECCA: CULTURAL, LIKE COMMENTARY ON LIKE 00:45:27.734 --> 00:45:29.033 CULTURAL STUFF. 00:45:29.133 --> 00:45:30.633 MARCUS: AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS MOST PEOPLE WHO DO THE 00:45:30.733 --> 00:45:33.034 INTERNET, THEY FIND THE THING THAT WORKS, AND THEN 00:45:33.134 --> 00:45:34.634 THEY JUST KEEP HITTING THAT BUTTON. 00:45:34.734 --> 00:45:35.634 YES. 00:45:35.734 --> 00:45:37.101 AND THEY DON'T STEP OUTSIDE OF THAT BOX. 00:45:37.201 --> 00:45:38.701 REBECCA: WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING LED BY THE SPIRIT. 00:45:38.801 --> 00:45:39.734 MARCUS: RIGHT. 00:45:39.834 --> 00:45:41.000 AND SO BECAUSE I'VE STEPPED OUT OF THAT BOX, 00:45:41.100 --> 00:45:44.134 IT'S LIKE I CAN NEVER MAKE ALL OF MY AUDIENCE HAPPY. 00:45:44.234 --> 00:45:46.534 SO WHATEVER I DO, IT'S LIKE, OH, I WISH YOU WOULD 00:45:46.634 --> 00:45:47.900 JUST STICK TO MOTIVATIONAL VIDEOS. 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.134 I WISH YOU WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT TRUMP. 00:45:49.234 --> 00:45:50.467 I WISH YOU WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT ISLAM. 00:45:50.567 --> 00:45:52.233 I WISH YOU WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT LGBTQ. 00:45:52.333 --> 00:45:53.834 AND THEN THE DENOMINATIONAL GANG 00:45:53.934 --> 00:45:54.967 BANGING STUFF. 00:45:55.067 --> 00:45:56.734 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE UPSET THAT EVEN THAT I CAME UP 00:45:56.834 --> 00:45:59.200 HERE AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, AND SO YOU JUST HAVE 00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:00.833 TO LEARN TO JUST FOLLOW THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:46:00.933 --> 00:46:03.333 YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. 00:46:03.433 --> 00:46:04.467 REBECCA: NO. 00:46:04.567 --> 00:46:06.500 AND I THINK FOR ME, THE FREEDOM THAT CAME THROUGH 00:46:06.600 --> 00:46:09.733 THAT IS JUST LEARNING THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT 00:46:09.833 --> 00:46:11.700 PEOPLE THINK, IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT GOD THINKS. 00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.934 AND THEN THAT FREES YOU UP COMPLETELY TO FULLY 00:46:14.034 --> 00:46:15.167 FOLLOW HIS WILL. 00:46:15.267 --> 00:46:16.300 RIGHT? 00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:17.434 AND THEN YOU LEARN, LIKE JESUS SAYS, THEY HATED ME. 00:46:17.534 --> 00:46:18.201 THEY'RE GOING TO HATE YOU. 00:46:18.301 --> 00:46:19.367 HE WAS PERFECT. 00:46:19.467 --> 00:46:20.633 IT'S LIKE, WHY DO WE THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET 00:46:20.733 --> 00:46:21.700 HATE? 00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:22.834 I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING 00:46:22.934 --> 00:46:24.500 SUBSTANTIAL IN THE KINGDOM UNTIL PEOPLE ACTUALLY 00:46:24.600 --> 00:46:28.167 START SHOWING HATE AND NOT SAYING BEING MEAN. 00:46:28.267 --> 00:46:30.634 I'M NOT SAYING BEING FLESHLY, BUT I'M SAYING IF 00:46:30.734 --> 00:46:32.900 YOU'RE WALKING IN OBEDIENCE AT SOME POINT 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:34.400 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MAD. 00:46:34.500 --> 00:46:38.034 MARCUS: I MEAN, THE THING IS, WE IF WE'RE BEING REAL, I 00:46:38.134 --> 00:46:39.834 THINK AND I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT LIKE AMERICAN 00:46:39.934 --> 00:46:41.600 CHRISTIANITY, I DON'T THINK AMERICAN 00:46:41.700 --> 00:46:43.434 CHRISTIANITY IS BOOK OF ACTS 00:46:43.534 --> 00:46:44.634 CHRISTIANITY. 00:46:44.734 --> 00:46:46.967 I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF PASTORS HAVE BECOME 00:46:47.067 --> 00:46:49.633 CEOS, AND IT'S MORE ABOUT MY BRAND AND BUILDING MY 00:46:49.733 --> 00:46:51.900 CASTLE AS OPPOSED TO THE KINGDOM. 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.100 THE REALITY IS, IF WE'RE LIVING IN THIS DELUSIONAL 00:46:54.200 --> 00:46:56.233 WORLD AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 00:46:56.333 --> 00:46:57.467 STRONG DELUSION IN THE END TIMES. 00:46:57.567 --> 00:46:59.334 IF YOU WERE A TRUTH TELLER, RIGHT? 00:46:59.434 --> 00:47:00.867 TRUTH TELLERS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO GET HATE. 00:47:00.967 --> 00:47:01.834 PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE TRUTH. 00:47:01.934 --> 00:47:02.834 THEY WANT THEIR TRUTH. 00:47:02.934 --> 00:47:04.734 AND PEOPLE SAY, OH, YOU'RE DIVISIVE. 00:47:04.834 --> 00:47:06.101 YES, JESUS WAS DIVISIVE. 00:47:06.201 --> 00:47:08.733 WHEN YOU SPEAK TRUTH, IT'S GOING TO DIVIDE THE PEOPLE 00:47:08.833 --> 00:47:11.134 WHO LOVE IT, THE PEOPLE WHO HATE IT, THE PEOPLE 00:47:11.234 --> 00:47:13.034 WHO ACCEPT IT, THE PEOPLE WHO REJECT IT. 00:47:13.134 --> 00:47:14.600 AND THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT WAR. 00:47:14.700 --> 00:47:16.434 AND MANY PASTORS, THEY DON'T. 00:47:16.534 --> 00:47:19.101 THEY DON'T WANT NO SIDE TO GET MAD AT THEM. 00:47:19.201 --> 00:47:20.534 AND THE BIBLE SAYS YOU'LL BE BLESSED WHEN THEY 00:47:20.634 --> 00:47:21.634 PERSECUTE YOU. 00:47:21.734 --> 00:47:23.534 A LOT OF PEOPLE MISS OUT ON THEIR BLESSING BECAUSE 00:47:23.634 --> 00:47:25.934 THEY'RE AVOIDING THE PERSECUTION. 00:47:26.034 --> 00:47:27.200 YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THAT'S AND PEOPLE DON'T 00:47:27.300 --> 00:47:29.234 LIKE TO THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY. 00:47:29.334 --> 00:47:30.467 AND I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WILL REALLY WAKE US 00:47:30.567 --> 00:47:34.034 UP AND GET US RIGHT IS FOR SOME KIND OF LEVEL OF 00:47:34.134 --> 00:47:35.334 PERSECUTION, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL COME THROUGH 00:47:35.434 --> 00:47:36.933 LEGISLATION IN AMERICA. 00:47:37.033 --> 00:47:37.734 YEAH. 00:47:37.834 --> 00:47:38.934 THE WAY WE'RE KIND OF GOING. 00:47:39.034 --> 00:47:41.700 REBECCA: I THINK EVENTUALLY IT'S IT'S GOING TO GET THERE. 00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:43.701 AND I THINK, I THINK AMERICA COULD BE ACTS 00:47:43.801 --> 00:47:44.901 CHRISTIANITY. 00:47:45.001 --> 00:47:47.101 I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE HUMILITY AND REVIVAL. 00:47:47.201 --> 00:47:49.634 AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO GET KIND OF 00:47:49.734 --> 00:47:51.733 SHAKEN UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT I JUST DON'T I MEAN, 00:47:51.833 --> 00:47:53.300 FOR YOU TO, FOR US TO THINK THAT IT'S ALWAYS 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:55.100 GOING TO BE. 00:47:55.200 --> 00:47:57.467 WE'RE BLESSED, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, EVERY 00:47:57.567 --> 00:47:59.233 CIVILIZATION CHANGES. 00:47:59.333 --> 00:48:00.267 I MEAN, LOOK AT HUMAN HISTORY. 00:48:00.367 --> 00:48:02.401 IT'S LIKE EVERY CIVILIZATION RISES AND 00:48:02.501 --> 00:48:04.367 FALLS AND SO NOTHING IS GUARANTEED. 00:48:04.467 --> 00:48:06.701 MARCUS: 249 YEARS, I THINK, IS WHAT THEY SAID. 00:48:06.801 --> 00:48:09.634 AND I THINK WE'RE AT 249 AS A NATION NOW. 00:48:09.734 --> 00:48:10.667 WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT 250. 00:48:10.767 --> 00:48:11.767 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:48:11.867 --> 00:48:13.801 AND THESE WERE ALL GREAT THRIVING CIVILIZATIONS. 00:48:13.901 --> 00:48:15.567 AND ALSO I REMEMBER LEARNING IN BIBLE SCHOOL, 00:48:15.667 --> 00:48:17.534 LIKE CHRISTIANITY, IT WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE 00:48:17.634 --> 00:48:18.667 AMERICA. 00:48:18.767 --> 00:48:20.067 CHRISTIANITY IS MOVED AS THE EPICENTER ALL OVER THE 00:48:20.167 --> 00:48:21.233 WORLD. 00:48:21.333 --> 00:48:22.367 YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE EAST THEN IT WAS IN 00:48:22.467 --> 00:48:23.600 EUROPE, AMERICA. 00:48:23.700 --> 00:48:28.134 NOW IT'S REALLY THRIVING DOWN IN LIKE SOUTHERN 00:48:28.234 --> 00:48:28.967 AMERICA. 00:48:29.067 --> 00:48:30.500 IT'S GROWING REALLY QUICKLY. 00:48:30.600 --> 00:48:31.801 THE CHURCH IS GROWING REALLY QUICKLY, AND A LOT 00:48:31.901 --> 00:48:35.134 OF PERSECUTED AREAS, WHICH REALLY SPEAKS. 00:48:35.234 --> 00:48:38.367 BUT I DO THINK AMERICA HAS AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE COULD 00:48:38.467 --> 00:48:43.267 NOT BE SEDUCED BY THE WEST AND ALLOW THE FREEDOM THAT 00:48:43.367 --> 00:48:46.301 WE HAVE AND THE BLESSINGS THAT WE HAVE TO SPREAD THE 00:48:46.401 --> 00:48:48.667 KINGDOM, WE COULD REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 00:48:48.767 --> 00:48:51.800 I JUST THINK THE DEVIL WANTS TO MAKE US APATHETIC 00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:54.001 AND DISTRACT US, AND LET US BE PREOCCUPIED WITH 00:48:54.101 --> 00:48:56.900 THINGS THAT AREN'T REALLY KINGDOM ADVANCING THINGS. 00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.267 MARCUS: YEAH, I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED 00:48:59.367 --> 00:49:01.267 WITH ADVANCING THEIR KINGDOM, AND THAT'S THE 00:49:01.367 --> 00:49:05.367 DANGER OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA STUFF IS LIKE, YEAH, ARE 00:49:05.467 --> 00:49:06.300 YOU DOING IT? 00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:07.634 WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? 00:49:07.734 --> 00:49:08.801 ARE YOU DOING IT FOR APPLAUSE? 00:49:08.901 --> 00:49:10.033 ARE YOU DOING IT FOR ACCOLADES? 00:49:10.133 --> 00:49:12.500 ARE YOU DOING IT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE SOMEBODY? 00:49:12.600 --> 00:49:13.667 LIKE WHAT? 00:49:13.767 --> 00:49:15.734 YOU KNOW WHAT IF GOD JUST CALLS YOU, YOU KNOW, TO DO 00:49:15.834 --> 00:49:17.267 SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GLAMOROUS? 00:49:17.367 --> 00:49:18.501 LIKE EVERYBODY THINKS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A 00:49:18.601 --> 00:49:20.700 CHRISTIAN STAR. 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:22.234 I KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S JUST NOT BIBLICAL. 00:49:22.334 --> 00:49:24.700 LIKE, YES, GOD MIGHT GIVE YOU INFLUENCE, BUT, YOU 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:26.334 KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT INFLUENCE? 00:49:26.434 --> 00:49:28.067 AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS EVERYBODY WHO HAS 00:49:28.167 --> 00:49:29.200 FOLLOWERS. 00:49:29.300 --> 00:49:30.501 THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOD, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT 00:49:30.601 --> 00:49:32.701 OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE WATERED DOWN THE MESSAGE. 00:49:32.801 --> 00:49:34.300 THEY'VE DONE THE POLITICS, THEY'VE DONE THE 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:36.767 MANIPULATION TO GET IN CERTAIN AREAS. 00:49:36.867 --> 00:49:39.001 SO YOU JUST HAVE TO BE TRICKY OR YOU DON'T WANT 00:49:39.101 --> 00:49:40.034 TO BE TRICKY. 00:49:40.134 --> 00:49:42.401 IT IS TRICKY NAVIGATING THAT ONLINE STUFF. 00:49:42.501 --> 00:49:44.234 THERE'S A LOT OF NONSENSE OUT THERE. 00:49:44.334 --> 00:49:45.534 REBECCA: IT IS HARD. 00:49:45.634 --> 00:49:47.567 AND I THINK FOR ME, I'VE JUST HAD TO KEEP IT 00:49:47.667 --> 00:49:48.267 SURRENDERED. 00:49:48.367 --> 00:49:49.400 FOCUS ON GOD. 00:49:49.500 --> 00:49:50.901 I REMEMBER HE'S TOLD ME ONE TIME, HE TOLD ME IT 00:49:51.001 --> 00:49:51.601 DOESN'T MATTER. 00:49:51.701 --> 00:49:53.067 VIEWS DON'T MATTER, RIGHT? 00:49:53.167 --> 00:49:54.634 AND VIEWS DON'T MEAN IMPACT. 00:49:54.734 --> 00:49:57.467 YOU KNOW, OBEDIENCE IS WHAT MATTERS. 00:49:57.567 --> 00:49:59.633 BECAUSE EVEN IF ONE PERSON WATCHED YOUR VIDEO, WE 00:49:59.733 --> 00:50:00.834 DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COULD IMPACT. 00:50:00.934 --> 00:50:02.667 WE CAN'T REALLY MEASURE. 00:50:02.767 --> 00:50:05.200 GOD IS THE ONE WHO REALLY SEES THINGS, NOT US. 00:50:05.300 --> 00:50:07.600 AND I'VE JUST KIND OF CAME TO A POINT AND I'M JUST 00:50:07.700 --> 00:50:09.234 HAPPY TO BE AT THIS POINT NOW WHERE I'M JUST KIND OF 00:50:09.334 --> 00:50:13.434 LIKE, LIKE, YEAH, I MIGHT BE GROWING AND LIKE, 00:50:13.534 --> 00:50:14.434 THAT'S GREAT. 00:50:14.534 --> 00:50:16.101 AND THAT YOU CAN BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 00:50:16.201 --> 00:50:17.600 BUT THAT DOESN'T MOVE MY HEART. 00:50:17.700 --> 00:50:18.734 RIGHT. 00:50:18.834 --> 00:50:19.867 YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LONG 00:50:19.967 --> 00:50:22.133 ENOUGH AND YOU CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE LORD, HE'LL 00:50:22.233 --> 00:50:23.733 BRING YOUR HEART TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, 00:50:23.833 --> 00:50:25.633 THIS DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. 00:50:25.733 --> 00:50:27.933 YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S NOT BAD, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO 00:50:28.033 --> 00:50:30.267 BE THE THING THAT BECAUSE IT'S WHATEVER YOUR HEART 00:50:30.367 --> 00:50:32.500 LOVES, THAT'S THE BIBLE SAYS WHERE YOUR HEART IS, 00:50:32.600 --> 00:50:33.634 THAT'S WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS. 00:50:33.734 --> 00:50:35.834 AND IN MY LIFE GOD SAYS, JUST GIVE ME YOUR HEART 00:50:35.934 --> 00:50:38.434 COMPLETELY AND STAY THAT WAY, RIGHT? 00:50:38.534 --> 00:50:40.200 AND KEEP YOUR HEART IN THAT POSTURE. 00:50:40.300 --> 00:50:42.734 AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT FEELS REALLY FREEING. 00:50:42.834 --> 00:50:44.734 SO ACTUALLY, SOMETIMES EVEN GOING THROUGH HATE 00:50:44.834 --> 00:50:47.033 ONLINE, THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE FREEING BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, 00:50:47.133 --> 00:50:48.934 OKAY, I'M NOT TIED TO THESE PEOPLE. 00:50:49.034 --> 00:50:50.534 I'M NOT LIVING TO PLEASE THESE PEOPLE. 00:50:50.634 --> 00:50:52.134 I'M LIVING TO PLEASE GOD. 00:50:52.234 --> 00:50:53.600 MARCUS: I MEAN, IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING HATE, ARE YOU A 00:50:53.700 --> 00:50:55.967 REAL CHRISTIAN, AND THEN IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING 00:50:56.067 --> 00:50:58.700 HATE, ARE YOU LIVING UP TO YOUR FULL POTENTIAL 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.500 BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR 00:51:01.600 --> 00:51:04.201 DEMONIC AGENDAS, LIKE THEY'RE PASSIONATE. 00:51:04.301 --> 00:51:06.400 AND I ALWAYS ASK PEOPLE, HOW CAN YOU CLAIM TO BE 00:51:06.500 --> 00:51:07.700 FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT? 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.000 AND YOU SEE HOW DEDICATED THE LGBTQ IS? 00:51:10.100 --> 00:51:13.433 YOU SEE HOW DEDICATED ISLAM IS TELLING US WHAT 00:51:13.533 --> 00:51:15.801 THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO, AND WE SEE THEM DOING 00:51:15.901 --> 00:51:16.967 IT IN THE UK. 00:51:17.067 --> 00:51:19.167 WE SEE THESE PASTORS GETTING ARRESTED HERE. 00:51:19.267 --> 00:51:21.000 WE SEE IN CANADA THEY'RE GETTING ARRESTED, AND WE 00:51:21.100 --> 00:51:23.001 SEE LITTLE INKLINGS OF IT HERE IN AMERICA. 00:51:23.101 --> 00:51:24.934 AND THEN IT'S LIKE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONES 00:51:25.034 --> 00:51:26.901 FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE 00:51:27.001 --> 00:51:27.700 THAT PASSION. 00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:28.934 WE DON'T HAVE THAT FIRE. 00:51:29.034 --> 00:51:30.467 WE DON'T HAVE THAT DEDICATION. 00:51:30.567 --> 00:51:31.500 YEAH, IT'S BAD. 00:51:31.600 --> 00:51:32.434 WE'RE COMPLACENT. 00:51:32.534 --> 00:51:34.501 CASUAL CHRISTIANS WILL BE CASUALTIES. 00:51:34.601 --> 00:51:35.600 THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SAY. 00:51:35.700 --> 00:51:37.333 AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT RIGHT WHEN THINGS 00:51:37.433 --> 00:51:39.667 SHIFT WHO THE REAL BELIEVERS ARE. 00:51:39.767 --> 00:51:41.367 BECAUSE WOULD YOU STILL WANT TO DO A CHRISTIAN 00:51:41.467 --> 00:51:42.001 PODCAST? 00:51:42.101 --> 00:51:43.134 NOT YOU. 00:51:43.234 --> 00:51:44.067 I'M SAYING IN GENERAL, WOULD YOU STILL WANT TO DO 00:51:44.167 --> 00:51:45.367 A CHRISTIAN PODCAST? 00:51:45.467 --> 00:51:47.067 IF ISLAM WAS LIKE, HEY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ALL 00:51:47.167 --> 00:51:48.434 THESE CHRISTIAN PODCASTERS, WE'RE GOING TO 00:51:48.534 --> 00:51:49.634 GET THEM. 00:51:49.734 --> 00:51:52.100 WOULD YOU STILL WANT TO BE THIS BOLD CHRISTIAN AND GO 00:51:52.200 --> 00:51:54.434 TO THESE CONFERENCES IF IT COULD COST YOU YOUR LIFE, 00:51:54.534 --> 00:51:55.300 LIKE IN CHINA? 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:56.267 YEAH. 00:51:56.367 --> 00:51:57.200 YOU GET IN TROUBLE FOR HAVING A BIBLE. 00:51:57.300 --> 00:51:59.267 THOSE PEOPLE ARE REALLY LIVING IT OUT. 00:51:59.367 --> 00:52:02.867 AND HERE IN AMERICA, WE ARE TAKING IT FOR GRANTED, 00:52:02.967 --> 00:52:03.967 RIGHT? 00:52:04.067 --> 00:52:05.633 THAT WE HAVE THIS FREEDOM TO GO TO CHURCH AND TO 00:52:05.733 --> 00:52:08.101 WORSHIP, AND WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT 00:52:08.201 --> 00:52:08.734 FREEDOM. 00:52:08.834 --> 00:52:09.901 GOD GAVE ME THIS WORD. 00:52:10.001 --> 00:52:11.234 IF YOU BUILD IN THE SEASON, I'M GOING TO BLESS 00:52:11.334 --> 00:52:12.300 IT. 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:13.267 AND HE GAVE ME THAT WORD IN 2014, AND I'VE BEEN 00:52:13.334 --> 00:52:14.400 BUILDING EVER SINCE. 00:52:14.500 --> 00:52:17.234 AND I DO BELIEVE THAT EVENTUALLY SOMETHING IS 00:52:17.334 --> 00:52:19.934 GOING TO COME THAT'S GOING TO SHAKE US, AND THEN 00:52:20.034 --> 00:52:21.500 WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT'S WHAT. 00:52:21.600 --> 00:52:24.267 REBECCA: YEAH, I AGREE, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FEEL. 00:52:24.367 --> 00:52:27.133 I DON'T KNOW WHEN OR HOW OR WHERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE 00:52:27.233 --> 00:52:29.467 EVENTUALLY SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN. 00:52:29.567 --> 00:52:31.933 I THINK COVID WAS LIKE A LITTLE BABY VERSION OF THAT. 00:52:32.033 --> 00:52:33.267 MARCUS: A SMALL VERSION, YEAH. 00:52:33.367 --> 00:52:35.634 REBECCA: AND THAT WAS EVEN THAT WAS EVEN A TIME DURING COVID 00:52:35.734 --> 00:52:38.467 WHERE I THINK IT WAS TESTING, AND THERE WERE 00:52:38.567 --> 00:52:41.400 PEOPLE WHO PULLED BACK DURING THAT SEASON IN THE 00:52:41.500 --> 00:52:44.467 CHURCH, AND THAT WAS A TIME OF THAT AS WELL. 00:52:44.567 --> 00:52:47.034 AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF WE DON'T STAND. 00:52:47.134 --> 00:52:48.167 MARCUS: YEAH. 00:52:48.267 --> 00:52:50.333 GAVIN NEWSOM, YOU KNOW, WHO THEY WANT TO RUN FOR 00:52:50.433 --> 00:52:52.300 PRESIDENT, NOT TO MAKE IT ALL POLITICAL. 00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.634 BUT IF PEOPLE REMEMBER DURING COVID, HE SAID, 00:52:54.734 --> 00:52:57.234 DON'T WORSHIP, DON'T SING, DON'T PLAY THE INSTRUMENT. 00:52:57.334 --> 00:52:58.900 AND MY PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED FOR LACK OF 00:52:59.000 --> 00:52:59.934 KNOWLEDGE. 00:53:00.034 --> 00:53:01.367 THE BIBLE SAYS PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER THAT 00:53:01.467 --> 00:53:02.467 HE SAID THAT. 00:53:02.567 --> 00:53:03.667 IT'S LIKE, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT ABOUT ISLAM? 00:53:03.767 --> 00:53:05.433 WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT ABOUT THE MOSQUE? 00:53:05.533 --> 00:53:06.467 WHY DIDN'T? 00:53:06.567 --> 00:53:07.567 AND THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT STRONG DELUSION. 00:53:07.667 --> 00:53:09.733 YOU GOT US IN THE AIRPORT SIX FEET APART, BUT THEN 00:53:09.833 --> 00:53:11.100 WE GET ON A PLANE AND WE'RE SITTING SIDE BY 00:53:11.200 --> 00:53:12.167 SIDE. 00:53:12.267 --> 00:53:13.434 THERE WAS A LOT OF STUFF AND A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST 00:53:13.534 --> 00:53:14.600 WENT WITH IT. 00:53:14.700 --> 00:53:16.701 AND THEN IF YOU GO IN A STORE, YOU CAN'T SHOP HERE 00:53:16.801 --> 00:53:17.834 UNLESS YOU HAVE THE MASK. 00:53:17.934 --> 00:53:19.567 AND THEN THEY WERE TRYING TO FORCE THE VACCINATION. 00:53:19.667 --> 00:53:21.301 WHAT DOES REVELATION SAY? 00:53:21.401 --> 00:53:23.000 WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL WITHOUT THE 00:53:23.100 --> 00:53:24.100 MARK. 00:53:24.200 --> 00:53:26.267 SO IT'S ALL SETTING US UP FOR WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW 00:53:26.367 --> 00:53:27.201 THAT THE BIBLE SAYS. 00:53:27.301 --> 00:53:28.933 LIKE WE'RE ON THAT TRAIN. 00:53:29.033 --> 00:53:29.734 AND YOU KNOW WHAT? 00:53:29.834 --> 00:53:31.333 IT'S LIKE TIME TO GET RIGHT. 00:53:31.433 --> 00:53:32.367 REBECCA: TOTALLY. 00:53:32.467 --> 00:53:34.500 AND I MEAN, NOW WITH ALL THE AI STUFF, IT SEEMS 00:53:34.600 --> 00:53:36.100 THAT WAY NOW MORE THAN EVER. 00:53:36.200 --> 00:53:38.300 LIKE THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO LIKE, TRACK 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:39.900 A TON OF LIKE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THIS ARTIFICIAL 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.234 INTELLIGENCE WITH ALL THESE CRAZY CAPABILITIES, 00:53:42.334 --> 00:53:44.334 IT'S LIKE, OH, OKAY, I CAN SEE HOW THIS CAN PAN OUT 00:53:44.434 --> 00:53:45.867 IN THE FUTURE, WHENEVER THAT IS. 00:53:45.967 --> 00:53:47.334 MARCUS: AND STRONG DELUSION. 00:53:47.434 --> 00:53:49.900 BECAUSE WHAT IF WHAT IF THEY PUT THE VIDEOS OUT? 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.967 DUDE, MARCUS ROGERS DID THIS. 00:53:52.067 --> 00:53:52.900 HE SAID THIS. 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:54.167 HERE'S THE VIDEO. 00:53:54.267 --> 00:53:56.034 NOW ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE YOU, THEY'RE 00:53:56.134 --> 00:53:57.600 AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO BELIEVE IT. 00:53:57.700 --> 00:53:58.667 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TEST IT. 00:53:58.767 --> 00:54:00.400 AND THEN ONCE IT'S OUT THERE, YOU CAN NEVER GET 00:54:00.500 --> 00:54:01.667 THAT BACK. 00:54:01.767 --> 00:54:04.167 EVEN IF THEY WERE TO ISSUE AN APOLOGY, RIGHT? 00:54:04.267 --> 00:54:05.300 NO. 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:06.001 THAT VIDEO IS OUT THERE AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING 00:54:06.101 --> 00:54:07.333 TO GET VERY NASTY WITH IT. 00:54:07.433 --> 00:54:09.100 LIKE, I HATE TO EVEN BRING IT UP, BUT THIS IS ONE OF 00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:10.133 THE THINGS I'M SAYING. 00:54:10.233 --> 00:54:11.501 LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BLACKMAIL PEOPLE. 00:54:11.601 --> 00:54:13.667 LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE THIS TAPE OF YOU. 00:54:13.767 --> 00:54:15.667 OR JUST LIKE ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, JUST WEIRD, 00:54:15.767 --> 00:54:16.267 CRAZY STUFF. 00:54:16.367 --> 00:54:17.433 AND IT'S VERY REAL. 00:54:17.533 --> 00:54:19.067 REBECCA: THAT THERE'S A THING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 00:54:19.167 --> 00:54:21.567 I'VE HEARD, BECAUSE THEY FOLLOW THIS LIKE, IT'S 00:54:21.667 --> 00:54:23.500 LIKE CALLED SCREEN FREE PARENT. 00:54:23.600 --> 00:54:26.367 IT'S A IT'S A PODCAST THAT HELPS WARN PARENTS ABOUT 00:54:26.467 --> 00:54:27.667 WHAT'S GOING ON IN TECHNOLOGY. 00:54:27.767 --> 00:54:30.134 AND RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO KIDS IS THEY'RE 00:54:30.234 --> 00:54:33.700 MAKING, LIKE NUDE IMAGES OF THEM THROUGH AI, AND 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:38.301 THEN THEY'RE LIKE SENDING THAT AROUND TO PEOPLE LIKE 00:54:38.401 --> 00:54:39.967 IT'S REAL AND IT LOOKS REAL. 00:54:40.067 --> 00:54:42.634 SO THAT'S THERE'S SO MUCH DECEPTION WITH AI. 00:54:42.734 --> 00:54:43.800 I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF BLACKMAIL 00:54:43.900 --> 00:54:45.267 STUFF IS HAPPENING ALREADY WHERE IT'S LIKE, IF YOU 00:54:45.367 --> 00:54:46.734 DON'T SEND ME THIS MUCH MONEY, I'M GOING TO LEAK 00:54:46.834 --> 00:54:47.934 THESE PHOTOS. 00:54:48.034 --> 00:54:51.567 AND IT'S CRAZY WHEN I SEE A VIDEO AND I CAN STILL 00:54:51.667 --> 00:54:54.467 KIND OF TELL AI, BUT I'LL LOOK AT THE COMMENTS AND 00:54:54.567 --> 00:54:56.901 EVERYONE THINKS IT'S REAL AND I'M LIKE, OH MY GOSH, 00:54:57.001 --> 00:54:58.467 IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE IT'S GOING TO GET SMARTER AND 00:54:58.567 --> 00:55:00.834 SMARTER, BETTER AND BETTER AT WHAT IT DOES. 00:55:00.934 --> 00:55:04.133 AND SO IT WILL BE CRAZY TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. 00:55:04.233 --> 00:55:05.901 I LOVE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ISLAM, BECAUSE THAT 00:55:06.001 --> 00:55:07.833 IS SOMETHING I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT, AND IT'S 00:55:07.933 --> 00:55:13.433 BEEN REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE A HUGE CULTURAL SHIFT 00:55:13.533 --> 00:55:16.333 WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAVE BECOME SO ACCEPTING OF 00:55:16.433 --> 00:55:17.500 ISLAM. 00:55:17.600 --> 00:55:19.767 BUT YOU SEE A VERY LIKE DANGEROUS AND KIND OF DARK 00:55:19.867 --> 00:55:21.000 AGENDA THERE. 00:55:21.100 --> 00:55:22.367 AND I DON'T JUST SEE IT. 00:55:22.467 --> 00:55:24.233 I'VE ALREADY KIND OF SEEN WHAT HAPPENS IN EUROPE. 00:55:24.333 --> 00:55:26.134 AND I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED I HAD A FRIEND THAT CAME 00:55:26.234 --> 00:55:27.733 THROUGH HERE AND HE LIVES IN THE UK, AND HE WAS 00:55:27.833 --> 00:55:30.767 TELLING ME THAT LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT 00:55:30.867 --> 00:55:34.967 POSITIONS IN THE UK ARE ALL MUSLIM, AND JUST HOW 00:55:35.067 --> 00:55:37.067 IT'S CHANGED SO MUCH OVER THERE, BUT IT'S TRYING TO 00:55:37.167 --> 00:55:39.067 HAPPEN IN TEXAS. 00:55:39.167 --> 00:55:40.567 THERE'S BEEN A TON OF STUFF HERE. 00:55:40.667 --> 00:55:43.001 THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A MASSIVE COMMUNITY HERE AND 00:55:43.101 --> 00:55:44.967 I'M LIKE, TEXAS, YOU KNOW? 00:55:45.067 --> 00:55:47.034 AND SO I JUST THINK IF YOU BECOME COMPLACENT AND YOU 00:55:47.134 --> 00:55:49.633 DON'T WARN, LIKE, YOU PROBABLY KNOW, THE SEDRAS 00:55:49.733 --> 00:55:51.334 THEY ALWAYS TALK ABOUT BECAUSE THEY CAME FROM 00:55:51.434 --> 00:55:52.901 EGYPT, I'M SO THANKFUL THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS 00:55:53.001 --> 00:55:54.267 TALKING ABOUT ISLAM. 00:55:54.367 --> 00:55:55.601 THANKFUL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE JUST 00:55:55.701 --> 00:55:57.667 NEED WE DON'T NEED TO BE AFRAID, BUT WE CAN'T BE 00:55:57.767 --> 00:55:59.934 COMPLACENT, AND WE HAVE TO BE INFORMED SO THAT WE CAN 00:56:00.034 --> 00:56:03.934 SPEAK THE TRUTH AND NOT ALLOW THIS KIND OF STUFF. 00:56:04.034 --> 00:56:05.501 WHILE WE STILL HAVE FREEDOM, WE CAN STILL 00:56:05.601 --> 00:56:06.867 FIGHT FOR IT. 00:56:06.967 --> 00:56:08.267 MARCUS: I THINK SOMETIMES AMERICANS ARE JUST 00:56:08.367 --> 00:56:10.467 ARROGANT AS WELL. 00:56:10.567 --> 00:56:11.900 THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHER ISSUE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.100 FROM GERMANY AND THEY'RE FROM, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE 00:56:14.200 --> 00:56:15.101 ELSE. 00:56:15.201 --> 00:56:16.234 AND PHILIP ANTHONY MITCHELL TALKS ABOUT IT, 00:56:16.334 --> 00:56:18.367 HIS FAMILY'S FROM AND I THINK SOMETIMES AMERICANS 00:56:18.467 --> 00:56:20.900 ARE JUST ARROGANT, LIKE, HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:22.733 GOING ON IN THE UK AND LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN 00:56:22.833 --> 00:56:23.867 CANADA? 00:56:23.967 --> 00:56:24.933 AND IT'S LIKE NEXT DOOR AND IT'S LIKE, OH, IT'S 00:56:25.033 --> 00:56:25.734 NO BIG DEAL. 00:56:25.834 --> 00:56:26.801 AND THEN WHAT'S EVEN SAD? 00:56:26.901 --> 00:56:28.101 LIKE I SAID, NOT TO MAKE IT POLITICAL, BUT WE'RE 00:56:28.201 --> 00:56:32.567 VOTING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO PERSECUTE US. 00:56:32.667 --> 00:56:34.134 REBECCA: THAT WAS CRAZY. 00:56:34.234 --> 00:56:35.834 IN NEW YORK, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MAYOR? 00:56:35.934 --> 00:56:36.767 MARCUS: THAT WAS A BAD. 00:56:36.867 --> 00:56:38.067 REBECCA: THAT WAS CRAZY. 00:56:38.167 --> 00:56:40.334 HE WAS SO EXTREME IN HIS POLITICS, TOO. 00:56:40.434 --> 00:56:42.133 BUT I JUST I DON'T KNOW, I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ON 00:56:42.233 --> 00:56:43.200 ALL OF THAT. 00:56:43.300 --> 00:56:45.000 MARCUS: GOD'S IN CONTROL AT THE END OF THE DAY. 00:56:45.100 --> 00:56:46.534 YEAH, BUT HE GIVES US FREE WILL. 00:56:46.634 --> 00:56:49.000 AND HE'S LOOKING, YOU KNOW, LIKE, BECAUSE THERE 00:56:49.100 --> 00:56:50.867 ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING THE WARNINGS. 00:56:50.967 --> 00:56:53.434 THERE WAS MANY DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TRUMP 00:56:53.534 --> 00:56:55.100 AND KAMALA AND ALL THESE PEOPLE. 00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:57.801 AND THE REALITY IS, LIKE, I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE 00:56:57.901 --> 00:56:58.667 ARE IGNORANT. 00:56:58.767 --> 00:57:00.067 THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE. 00:57:00.167 --> 00:57:01.567 YOU KNOW, THE THE DEVIL. 00:57:01.667 --> 00:57:03.734 THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE DEVIL WANTS TO GO THROUGH 00:57:03.834 --> 00:57:06.967 LEGISLATION JUST LIKE YOU SEE WITH DANIEL AND THE 00:57:07.067 --> 00:57:09.367 LION'S DEN, THE THREE HEBREW BOYS, ESTHER, HIM, AND 00:57:09.467 --> 00:57:13.267 MORDECAI, AND WITH ISLAM THEY ARE TELLING US IF YOU 00:57:13.367 --> 00:57:14.934 PAY ATTENTION, THEY SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT 00:57:15.034 --> 00:57:15.867 WITH THE BULLET. 00:57:15.967 --> 00:57:17.000 WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WITH THE BALLOT. 00:57:17.100 --> 00:57:18.934 AND THIS IS COMING OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS AND OUT OF 00:57:19.034 --> 00:57:22.300 THE ABUNDANCE OF THE HEART, THE MOUTH SPEAKS. 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:23.401 NOW WE CAN GET ALL POLITICALLY CORRECT AND BE 00:57:23.501 --> 00:57:24.301 FAKE ABOUT IT. 00:57:24.401 --> 00:57:25.467 AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM IN AMERICA. 00:57:25.567 --> 00:57:27.401 CHRISTIANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT. 00:57:27.501 --> 00:57:29.600 YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANY CONTROVERSY, AND 00:57:29.700 --> 00:57:31.833 A SUCCESSFUL PREACHER IS A PREACHER 00:57:31.933 --> 00:57:32.767 THAT'S NOT MESSY. 00:57:32.867 --> 00:57:34.800 THAT'S NOT GETTING A LOT OF HATE. 00:57:34.900 --> 00:57:35.900 YOU JUST GOT THIS SMILE. 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:37.534 AND YOU KNOW, GOD'S GONNA BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND. 00:57:37.634 --> 00:57:39.567 BUT WE'RE IN A WAR, AND THE BIBLE MAKES IT CLEAR 00:57:39.667 --> 00:57:40.667 THAT WE'RE IN A WAR. 00:57:40.767 --> 00:57:42.033 AND WE NEED TO GET THAT WARRIOR MENTALITY IN THE 00:57:42.133 --> 00:57:42.601 CHURCH. 00:57:42.701 --> 00:57:43.934 REBECCA: WE DO. 00:57:44.034 --> 00:57:46.567 AND I THINK, LIKE, THERE'S I SEE BOTH EXTREMES. 00:57:46.667 --> 00:57:48.767 I SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE KIND OF FEAR MONGERING AND 00:57:48.867 --> 00:57:49.867 SENSATIONALISM. 00:57:49.967 --> 00:57:52.000 THERE IS THAT WHERE THEY TAKE IT TOO FAR ONLINE, 00:57:52.100 --> 00:57:53.733 BECAUSE IT'S LIKE GOD HASN'T GIVEN US A SPIRIT 00:57:53.833 --> 00:57:57.767 OF FEAR, BUT JESUS NEVER HE ALWAYS SPOKE THE TRUTH 00:57:57.867 --> 00:57:59.867 VERY CLEARLY AND JUST LAID IT OUT PLAINLY. 00:57:59.967 --> 00:58:02.100 THE WAY THINGS ARE, THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING TO 00:58:02.200 --> 00:58:03.234 BE. 00:58:03.334 --> 00:58:05.001 AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE END TIMES ALL THE TIME IN 00:58:05.101 --> 00:58:07.367 HIS MINISTRY, AND HE TALKED ABOUT HELL, AND HE 00:58:07.467 --> 00:58:09.434 TALKED ABOUT SIN, BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE TO LAY IT 00:58:09.534 --> 00:58:10.233 OUT. 00:58:10.333 --> 00:58:11.434 I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE TRUTH. 00:58:11.534 --> 00:58:13.567 IT'S JUST THE REALITY THAT WE'RE IN. 00:58:13.667 --> 00:58:15.534 IT'S JUST THE ENEMY HAS HAS US UNDER THIS 00:58:15.634 --> 00:58:16.634 DELUSION. 00:58:16.734 --> 00:58:18.334 AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK AMERICANS I 00:58:18.434 --> 00:58:19.467 THINK SOME ARE ARROGANT. 00:58:19.567 --> 00:58:20.967 I THINK A LOT OF THEM ARE JUST COMFORTABLE AND THEY 00:58:21.067 --> 00:58:22.567 JUST THINK, OH, EVERYTHING'S OKAY. 00:58:22.667 --> 00:58:25.534 BUT IT'S LIKE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY CHANGING. 00:58:25.634 --> 00:58:27.633 AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND 00:58:27.733 --> 00:58:29.967 REALLY WE JUST NEED TO BE HONESTLY LIKE WE NEED TO 00:58:30.067 --> 00:58:31.900 BE SPREADING THE KINGDOM AND WE NEED TO BE 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:33.167 DISCIPLING PEOPLE. 00:58:33.267 --> 00:58:34.901 WE NEED TO BE, LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, WE NEED TO 00:58:35.001 --> 00:58:36.000 BE EVANGELIZING. 00:58:36.100 --> 00:58:39.201 AND I THINK SOMETIMES CHRISTIANS JUST I THINK 00:58:39.301 --> 00:58:40.467 IT'S FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. 00:58:40.567 --> 00:58:43.334 I JUST THINK WE LIVE OUR LIVES AND THAT'S GREAT. 00:58:43.434 --> 00:58:44.334 IT'S IMPORTANT. 00:58:44.434 --> 00:58:45.334 YOU KNOW, MY MOST IMPORTANT CALL IS TO BE A 00:58:45.434 --> 00:58:46.500 WIFE AND A MOM. 00:58:46.600 --> 00:58:50.067 BUT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT GOING TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY, 00:58:50.167 --> 00:58:51.133 RIGHT? 00:58:51.233 --> 00:58:52.901 IT'S ABOUT LIVING YOUR LIFE EVERY SINGLE DAY, 00:58:53.001 --> 00:58:54.001 FOLLOWING THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:58:54.101 --> 00:58:56.200 AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE, OKAY, HOLY 00:58:56.300 --> 00:58:57.533 SPIRIT, I'M AVAILABLE. 00:58:57.633 --> 00:58:58.634 USE ME. 00:58:58.734 --> 00:59:00.567 YOU KNOW, AND BEING OBEDIENT IN THOSE MOMENTS, 00:59:00.667 --> 00:59:03.601 I JUST INTERVIEWED A GUY WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT KIND 00:59:03.701 --> 00:59:05.300 OF LIKE SPIRIT LED PROPHETIC. 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.100 HE CALLED IT PROPHETIC EVANGELISM AND HOW HE 00:59:07.200 --> 00:59:08.601 WOULD GO OUT AND GOD WOULD GIVE HIM WORDS OF 00:59:08.701 --> 00:59:10.267 KNOWLEDGE FOR PEOPLE, AND HE WOULD MOVE IN THESE 00:59:10.367 --> 00:59:11.667 LIKE, POWERFUL WAYS. 00:59:11.767 --> 00:59:13.300 AND HE'S LIKE, I WAS JUST LED BY THE SPIRIT. 00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:15.333 AND LIKE, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE CAN DO. 00:59:15.433 --> 00:59:16.434 YEAH. 00:59:16.534 --> 00:59:18.300 BUT YEAH, I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY, I THINK WE 00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.934 GET SO CAUGHT UP IN OURSELVES AND OUR LIVES. 00:59:21.034 --> 00:59:23.467 MARCUS: AND THE FLESH, YOU KNOW, THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:59:23.567 --> 00:59:25.234 IF PEOPLE LISTEN TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, HOLY SPIRIT 00:59:25.334 --> 00:59:27.201 MIGHT LEAD YOU SOME PLACES YOU DON'T WANT TO GO. 00:59:27.301 --> 00:59:27.767 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:59:27.867 --> 00:59:28.267 YOUR FLESH 00:59:28.367 --> 00:59:29.133 IS LIKE, NO. 00:59:29.233 --> 00:59:30.434 MARCUS: YEAH. SO. 00:59:30.534 --> 00:59:32.334 REBECCA: OKAY, WELL, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GO WHAT'S 00:59:32.434 --> 00:59:34.000 JUST REALLY QUICK, LET ME GRAB 00:59:34.100 --> 00:59:34.600 YOUR BOOK. 00:59:34.700 --> 00:59:35.333 ALL RIGHT. 00:59:35.633 --> 00:59:37.967 THIS BOOK, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. 00:59:38.067 --> 00:59:39.400 WHERE CAN PEOPLE, IS IT OUT? 00:59:39.500 --> 00:59:41.201 MARCUS: YEAH IT'S OUT ON AMAZON PRETTY MUCH. 00:59:41.301 --> 00:59:42.267 REBECCA: NICE. OKAY. 00:59:42.367 --> 00:59:43.801 JUST GIVE US A LITTLE SNIPPET. 00:59:43.901 --> 00:59:44.567 WHO SHOULD READ IT? 00:59:44.667 --> 00:59:45.334 WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF 00:59:45.434 --> 00:59:46.567 THE BOOK? 00:59:46.667 --> 00:59:47.867 MARCUS: IT'S JUST REALLY THE CHALLENGE. 00:59:47.967 --> 00:59:49.834 LIKE I SAID, I GUESS THE GIST OF IT, LIKE IF YOU 00:59:49.934 --> 00:59:51.201 LOOK AT THE FRONT OF THE BOOK, YOU SEE THE FRUIT ON 00:59:51.301 --> 00:59:53.233 THE BOTTOM, YOU SEE THE SNAKE, AND IT'S SUPPOSED 00:59:53.333 --> 00:59:55.001 TO BE A REPRESENTATION OF THE GARDEN OF EDEN. 00:59:55.101 --> 00:59:56.933 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF THE BOOK, YOU SEE 00:59:57.033 --> 00:59:59.034 ADAM AND EVE, YOU SEE THE ANGEL, YOU SEE THE CROSS 00:59:59.134 --> 01:00:01.901 OVER THE SNAKE, AND YOU SEE THE VEIL BEING TORN. 01:00:02.001 --> 01:00:03.800 I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND 01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:05.234 THE GOSPEL, RIGHT? 01:00:05.334 --> 01:00:07.233 PEOPLE THINK THAT THE GOSPEL IS JUST. 01:00:07.333 --> 01:00:09.167 JESUS DIED FOR US TO BE SAVED. 01:00:09.267 --> 01:00:10.334 SO I DON'T GO TO HELL. 01:00:10.434 --> 01:00:11.934 BUT THE GOSPEL IS RIGHT. 01:00:12.034 --> 01:00:14.867 THE FIRST ADAM MESSED UP, FAILED TO USE HIS AUTHORITY 01:00:14.967 --> 01:00:17.367 IN THE GARDEN, HIS GOD GIVEN AUTHORITY. 01:00:17.467 --> 01:00:19.567 AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT RIGHT, THEY GOT PUT OUT 01:00:19.667 --> 01:00:20.600 THE GARDEN. 01:00:20.700 --> 01:00:22.201 THE ANGELS BLOCKED THE PATH TO THE GARDEN. 01:00:22.301 --> 01:00:23.767 YOU LOOK AT THE HOLY OF HOLIES. 01:00:23.867 --> 01:00:24.434 THERE WAS A VEIL. 01:00:24.534 --> 01:00:25.434 THE CHERUBIM WERE ON IT. 01:00:25.534 --> 01:00:26.934 ONLY THE HIGH PRIEST COULD GO. 01:00:27.034 --> 01:00:28.300 JESUS COMES, HE DIES. 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.934 THE VEIL IS TORN TO RESTORE ACCESS TO WHAT 01:00:31.034 --> 01:00:32.200 ADAM LOST. 01:00:32.300 --> 01:00:35.500 AND SO NOW THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, 01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:37.367 SO WE'RE NOT JUST SAVED. 01:00:37.467 --> 01:00:38.167 OH, I LOVE JESUS. 01:00:38.267 --> 01:00:38.801 HE DIED FOR ME. 01:00:38.901 --> 01:00:39.800 I'M GOING TO HEAVEN. 01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:41.133 NO, THERE'S A PURPOSE. 01:00:41.233 --> 01:00:43.001 THERE'S A MISSION, THERE'S ASSIGNMENT. 01:00:43.101 --> 01:00:44.667 WE ARE CALLED TO BE SALT AND LIGHT IN THE EARTH. 01:00:44.767 --> 01:00:47.501 AND WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AS A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD. 01:00:47.601 --> 01:00:49.534 PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND GOD OWNS THIS EARTH, AND 01:00:49.634 --> 01:00:51.634 WE ARE HIS SONS, AND WE ARE HIS DAUGHTERS. 01:00:51.734 --> 01:00:53.267 AND THE BIBLE SAYS THE EARTH IS GROANING, WAITING 01:00:53.367 --> 01:00:55.600 FOR THE SONS OF GOD TO MANIFEST. 01:00:55.700 --> 01:00:58.534 SO GOD IS LOOKING FOR HIS CHILDREN TO TAKE AUTHORITY 01:00:58.634 --> 01:00:59.467 IN THE EARTH. 01:00:59.567 --> 01:01:00.600 AND WHAT'S SO CRAZY? 01:01:00.700 --> 01:01:02.100 WE GO BACK WITH THE MUSLIMS. 01:01:02.200 --> 01:01:04.867 THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 01:01:04.967 --> 01:01:06.500 DOING HERE IN AMERICA. 01:01:06.600 --> 01:01:08.733 THEY'RE TELLING EVERYBODY, BE GAY AND ABORT YOUR 01:01:08.833 --> 01:01:09.867 BABIES. 01:01:09.967 --> 01:01:11.000 AND THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, LET'S BE FRUITFUL AND 01:01:11.100 --> 01:01:14.534 MULTIPLY AND SPREAD OUR GOSPEL RIGHT THROUGHOUT 01:01:14.634 --> 01:01:15.600 THE WHOLE WORLD. 01:01:15.700 --> 01:01:16.734 AND SO I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T 01:01:16.834 --> 01:01:19.567 UNDERSTAND WHAT BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY IS. 01:01:19.667 --> 01:01:22.500 EVERYBODY'S A CHRISTIAN UNTIL WE GET BIBLICAL, 01:01:22.600 --> 01:01:25.533 BECAUSE FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE 01:01:25.633 --> 01:01:26.633 WORD OF GOD. 01:01:26.733 --> 01:01:29.034 I THINK PEOPLE IN AMERICA THINK FAITH MEANS, OH, I 01:01:29.134 --> 01:01:30.134 BELIEVE IN GOD. 01:01:30.234 --> 01:01:33.834 FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD. 01:01:33.934 --> 01:01:37.034 SO MY FAITH IS SHAPED BY THE WORD OF GOD. 01:01:37.134 --> 01:01:39.200 AND THAT'S WHY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT SAVED BY WORKS. 01:01:39.300 --> 01:01:41.834 BUT FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD. 01:01:41.934 --> 01:01:43.701 SO IF YOU ARE A TRUE FOLLOWER OF CHRIST, IT'S 01:01:43.801 --> 01:01:45.400 GOING TO PRODUCE SOMETHING IN YOU. 01:01:45.500 --> 01:01:46.967 AND THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK IS TALKING ABOUT. 01:01:47.067 --> 01:01:48.967 IT'S WEIRD FOR YOU NOT TO TRUST GOD. 01:01:49.067 --> 01:01:51.100 IT'S WEIRD FOR A CHRISTIAN TO BE STUCK ON NEUTRAL. 01:01:51.200 --> 01:01:53.567 IT'S WEIRD FOR A CHRISTIAN TO, YOU KNOW, HATE ON A 01:01:53.667 --> 01:01:54.733 BROTHER AND SISTER IN CHRIST 01:01:54.833 --> 01:01:57.167 IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT WHAT GOD HAS FOR YOU IS 01:01:57.267 --> 01:01:58.267 FOR YOU. 01:01:58.367 --> 01:01:59.534 AND JUST THINGS LIKE THAT, CHALLENGING PEOPLE'S 01:01:59.634 --> 01:02:01.834 PERSPECTIVE ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE SEE IN THE 01:02:01.934 --> 01:02:02.667 AMERICAN CHURCH. 01:02:02.767 --> 01:02:04.200 REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD. 01:02:04.300 --> 01:02:05.634 WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 01:02:05.734 --> 01:02:06.934 MARCUS: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 01:02:07.034 --> 01:02:07.600 GOOD TALK. 01:02:07.700 --> 01:02:08.401 GREAT TALK. 01:02:08.501 --> 01:02:09.234 REBECCA: YEAH.