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>> HEY GUYS, WELCOME
BACK TO THE PODCAST.

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I AM JOINED HERE TODAY
WITH MY HUSBAND JONATHAN,

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AND WE HAVE WITH US AUTHOR
AND ACTOR, CODY BOBAY.

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>> YEAH, THANK
YOU SO MUCH.

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.

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>> YEAH.


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>> AND THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE AS WELL.

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>> ABSOLUTELY.


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>> THIS, WHEN I FOUND OUT
ABOUT CODY BEING HERE,

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I WAS LIKE, IT WOULD BE
A CRIME NOT TO HAVE

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MY HUSBAND HERE.


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AND I FEEL LIKE THE
CONVERSATION,

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CONVERSATION IS GOING
TO BE SO MUCH BETTER

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HAVING YOU HERE.


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>> LET'S HOPE SO.


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>> YEAH.


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>> HEY, DON'T MESS IT UP.


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>> YEAH, EXACTLY.


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>> YOU WON'T. HE WON'T.


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SO LET'S JUST JUMP RIGHT
INTO YOUR TESTIMONY.

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>> YEAH.


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>> YOU DID NOT GROW UP AROUND
CHURCH AT ALL,

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IT SOUNDED LIKE.


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>> YEAH, NOT AT ALL.


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YEAH.


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SO YEAH.


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THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING
ME ON YOUR PODCAST.

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I LOOK FORWARD, I'M GLAD
TO GET TO KNOW YOU.

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AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
GET TO KNOW YOU MORE.

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AND YOU AS WELL, REBECCA.


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SO, YEAH, MY STORY IS
A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN,

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THAN MOST.


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BUT I WAS RAISED WITH MY
DAD AND MY BROTHER,

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AND I'M 40 YEARS OLD.


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SO WHEN I WAS RAISED WITH
MY DAD AND MY BROTHER,

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IN THAT TIME, IT WAS NOT AS
COMMON AS IT IS TODAY,

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UNFORTUNATELY, TO
HAVE A DIVORCED HOME.

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SO WHEN YOU'RE A KID
TRYING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE

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IN THIS LIFE AND
YOU'RE EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE,

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AND YOU GET INVITED
OVER TO BIRTHDAY PARTIES

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AND DIFFERENT
EVENTS AND THEY'RE LIKE,

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OH, SO TELL US
ABOUT YOUR FAMILY.

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YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT DO
YOUR PARENTS DO FOR WORK?

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AND, YOU KNOW, MY DAD DID
THIS, AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR MOM?

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AND THEN THEY FIND OUT
THEY WERE DIVORCED

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AND I LIVED WITH MY DAD.


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EVERYBODY STARTED TO HAVE
RED FLAGS OF LIKE,

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OH, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING
WRONG WITH THIS KID.

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AND, YOU KNOW, AS PARENTS
DO, LIKE, I'M INTENTIONAL

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WITH MY KIDS NOW OF LIKE,
WHAT DO THEIR PARENTS BELIEVE?

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WHAT'S THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE
IN THEIR HOUSE?

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FOR ME, WITH MY, I HAVE
TWO TEENAGERS NOW, OF LIKE

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WHAT DO THEIR PARENTS
ALLOW AND WHAT DON'T THEY ALLOW?

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WELL, LIKE MY HOUSEHOLD
WAS, ANYTHING WAS ALLOWED.

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SO IT WAS, REALLY, I BECAME
AN OUTCAST EVEN THOUGH I WAS,

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LIKE REALLY
POPULAR IN SCHOOL.

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I WAS AN OUTCAST WITH THE PEOPLE
I WANTED TO BE ACCEPTED BY,

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WHICH IS LIKE
THEIR FAMILY VACATION,

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LIKE FRIEND VACATIONS.


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AND I SAW THIS LIFE BEING
LIVED, AND IT DROVE ME

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WHEN I WAS 13 TO, YOU
KNOW, I STARTED DRINKING

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AND I REALIZED THAT
ALCOHOL WAS A GREAT TOOL

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TO NUMB MY BRAIN FROM
SOME OF THAT PAIN.

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AND THEN I STARTED TO
PARTY REALLY HARD.

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AND PARTYING
WAS LIKE ALWAYS FOR ME,

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IT WAS ABOUT BROTHERHOOD
BECAUSE I LOVED

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HANGING OUT WITH THE GUYS.


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I LOVED GETTING DRUNK
AND GOING AND GETTING IN A

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FIGHT AND THEN TALKING
ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS,

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LIKE IT WAS JUST
REALLY A THRILL.

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ANYBODY THAT SAYS IT'S
NOT FUN OR A GOOD TIME,

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THEY'VE NEVER DONE
IT AND THEY'RE LYING.

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LIKE, IF THEY HAVE DONE IT,
THEY'RE TRYING TO BE LIKE,

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OH, I'M GONNA BE
A GOOD CHRISTIAN,

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SAY THAT THAT'S NOT FUN.


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NO, IT'S A GOOD TIME.


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AND YOU GET TO KNOW
WHO YOUR BROTHERS --

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THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF
MASCULINITY THAT'S, LIKE,

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REALLY DIFFERENT
AND COOL WITH THAT.

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SO I WAS SEARCHING
FOR THAT.

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I WANTED THAT COOL.


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AND I FELL TOO
FAR INTO IT.

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AND IT WAS THEN I REMEMBER
LIKE I WAS HAVING SEX

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THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE
BROTHERHOOD, WHICH WAS STRANGE,

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OF LIKE MY, MY, MY
GUYS ARE GOING TO THINK

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I'M COOLER FOR
THIS MOMENT.

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AND THEN I WOULD DO THINGS
AFTERWARDS TO LIKE

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FEMALES' REPUTATIONS THAT I
WAS SUPER SAD ABOUT.

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AND MY GUYS THOUGHT IT WAS
FUNNY AND MY,

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YOU KNOW, BROTHERHOOD.


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AND I STARTED TO REALLY
HATE WHO I WAS BECOMING.

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>> SO YOU WERE REALLY,


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IT SOUNDS LIKE SEARCHING
FOR ALMOST A FAMILY

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WITHIN YOUR FRIENDS.


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>> YEAH.


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>> A COMMUNITY.


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>> YEAH.


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>> A DEEP
LONGING FOR THAT.

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>> YEAH.


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I REALLY THINK EVERY
MAN IS LONGING,

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EVERY WOMAN.


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BUT I KNOW, LIKE, THE AREA
THAT GOD HAS CALLED ME TO

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IS LIKE CREATING CONTENT
FOR THE MASCULINE SOUL.

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I KNOW MEN ARE LONGING
FOR ACCEPTANCE.

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AND, HEY, I'M GOING TO HAVE
YOUR BACK, YOU HAVE MY BACK,

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AND LET'S GO TAKE
ON WHATEVER MISSION

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WE'RE GOING TO DO.


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AND THAT'S -- IT'S FUN.


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LIKE WHEN YOU KNOW, LIKE,
I CAN TRUST YOU,

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YOU CAN TRUST ME.


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WE'RE GOING TO GO HAVE
SOME FUN AND ACCOMPLISH

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WHAT WE SET OUT FOR,


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AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
RUN WHEN THE FIGHT STARTS.

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THERE'S THAT FREEDOM THERE
THAT CHRIST MADE IN THE

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MASCULINE SOUL.


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BUT IF CHRIST ISN'T KING
OF THAT, AND HE WASN'T

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KING OF ANYTHING OF MY
SOUL IN HIGH SCHOOL,

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JUNIOR HIGH, HIGH SCHOOL,
YOU CAN END UP LIKE ME,

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TO WHERE YOU'RE CELEBRATED
EXTERNALLY BY PEOPLE AND

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YOU ARE POPULAR AND YOU'RE
GOING THROUGH THESE THINGS,

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BUT YOU'RE MISERABLY --
YOU'RE GOING THROUGH

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A MISERABLE
LIFE INTERNALLY.

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AND I JUST REMEMBER, LIKE,
I'D GO TO PARTIES AND

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LIKE, WE'D HAVE A GREAT
TIME AND WE'D GO HOME AND

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I'D STILL BE THE GUY THAT
COULDN'T SLEEP REALLY WELL,

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AND I'D BE DRUNK
AND HIGH, AND I'D LOOK AT

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MYSELF IN THE MIRROR
AND BE LIKE,

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I HATE WHO YOU'VE BECOME.


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>> AND YOU SAID GROWING
UP THERE WAS KIND OF THIS

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SENSE IN YOU THAT YOU
WANTED TO BE A GOOD

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PERSON, BUT YOU JUST
DIDN'T KNOW HOW.

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>> YEAH.


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LIKE, I THINK THIS IS WHY,
LIKE, SO I'M AN ACTOR NOW.

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IF YOU REALLY WANT TO
PLAY A BAD GUY, WHICH I

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TRY TO PLAY THE ACTION
HERO IN ALL MY ROLES, BUT

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THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BAD
GUYS IN AUDITIONS I COULD

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CONNECT WITH, BECAUSE
EVERY BAD GUY THAT I'VE

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BEEN AROUND AND SEEN, THEY
THINK THEY'RE DOING GOOD WORK.

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AND NOW, NOT EVERYONE, BUT
A LOT OF THEM, LIKE THE

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INTERESTING SIDE OF A GOOD
BAD GUY ON FILM, IS THAT

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THEY THINK THEY'RE
ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING

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EFFECTIVE FOR THE
GOOD OF HUMANITY.

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AND I, YOU KNOW, I WENT
DOWN A TOUGH ROAD, AND I

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THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN
RELATE WITH THE PARTYING

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LIFESTYLE, THINKING LIKE,
OH, I'M GOING TO, FOR MEN,

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I THINK I'M GOING
TO FIND MASCULINITY.

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BUT IF CHRIST ISN'T THE
KING OF THAT, YOU'RE GOING

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TO END UP WITH NOTHING
AND YOU END UP LIKE ME,

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STARING AT YOURSELF IN THE
MIRROR SAYING,

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I HATE WHO I'VE BECOME.


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BUT I HAD NO IDEA
HOW TO GET OUT OF IT.

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SO I THOUGHT THE MILITARY
WAS HOW I WAS GOING TO

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BECOME A GOOD PERSON.


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SO I SAW, I WAS LOOKING
AT ALL MY OPTIONS FOR COLLEGE,

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AND THE MILITARY
HAD THIS SIGN CALLED

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THE UNITED STATES NAVY,
BE SOMEONE SPECIAL.

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AND I WAS LIKE, MAN,
I WANT TO BE SOMEONE SPECIAL.

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LIKE, I WANT TO ACTUALLY BE
SIGNIFICANT RATHER THAN

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SOMEBODY WHO, LIKE,


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YOU KNOW, IS MORE
OF A WOMANIZER WITH --

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AND THAT'S NOT WHO I
WANTED TO BE, EVER.

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BUT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I
COULDN'T STAY FAITHFUL

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IN RELATIONSHIPS AT ALL.


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AND I WOULD CHEAT.


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AND THE PARTYING LIFESTYLE
WAS CONDUCIVE

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TO UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS.


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AND I DIDN'T
WANT TO DO THAT.

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I DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT
GUYS ALL THE TIME AND DO

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THAT UNNECESSARILY.


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AND I'M STILL A FAN OF
ELIMINATING EVIL,

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BUT UNNECESSARILY IS
A WASTE OF TIME.

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SO I JOINED THE MILITARY
THINKING THAT I COULD BE

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A GOOD PERSON BY
JOINING THE U.S. NAVY.

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>> WHAT WAS IT LIKE
WHEN YOU FIRST JOINED?

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WAS IT WHAT YOU
EXPECTED IT TO BE?

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DID YOU FEEL LIKE PRETTY
QUICKLY YOU'RE LIKE,

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THIS ISN'T FULFILLING THIS --


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WHAT WHAT WAS
IT LIKE FOR YOU?

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>> YEAH, IT WAS REALLY
INTERESTING

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BECAUSE ONCE YOU
JOIN THE MILITARY,

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ALL OF A SUDDEN
YOU'RE STRIPPED, LIKE,

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NAKED, METAPHORICALLY
AND PHYSICALLY.

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LIKE YOUR HAIRCUT CHANGES,
YOU GET A BUZZ CUT,

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YOU'RE SHOWERING WITH 80
GUYS ALL THE TIME.

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THERE'S A SPIGOT IN THE
MIDDLE, AND 12 GUYS

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SHOWER AROUND.


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I THINK 12 GUYS ARE ON ONE
THING, BUT IT'S FOR THE

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LIKE, LET'S GET NAKED AND
VULNERABLE AND LIKE,

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LET'S SUFFER TOGETHER.


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SO THE CONCEPT
IS REALLY COOL.

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BUT AS A MAN THAT DOESN'T
KNOW WHO YOU ARE,

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I FOUND MYSELF MEASURING MY
MASCULINITY WITH EVERYBODY

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AND PHYSICALLY,
METAPHORICALLY,

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EVERYTHING.


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>> KIND OF LIKE
COMPARING YOURSELF?

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>> YEAH.


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LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO
DO MORE PUSH-UPS THAN THIS GUY,

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AND I WANT TO GET
BETTER GRADES IN THE CLASSROOM

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THAN THIS GUY.


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IT LED ME DOWN THE PATH OF
TRYING TO BE GOOD WITHOUT

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KNOWING THE SOURCE OF
GOOD, AND I FELL RIGHT

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BACK INTO IT, ACTUALLY
HEAVIER THAN BEFORE.

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SO, WE FINISHED BOOT
CAMP, AND I ENDED UP

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HELPING LEAD THE GROUP
OF GUYS IN BOOT CAMP.

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>> SO YOU WERE
A LEADER THERE?

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>> YEAH.


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I ALMOST GOT IN A FIGHT
WITH OUR DRILL SERGEANT IN

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BOOT CAMP BECAUSE I DIDN'T
KNOW, BUT, LIKE, HE CAME

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UP TO ME, HE WOKE
ME UP AT, LIKE,

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WE GOT TO BED AT 2:00.


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AT 4:00, HE WAS KICKING THE
TRASH CAN, AND IT HIT MY

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RACK, AND HE WAS
A SHORTER MAN.

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AND I STOOD UP, AND I
STILL -- I HAVE A FIGHT.

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THE FIGHT OR FLIGHT.


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I'M JUST LIKE A FIGHT.


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AND ESPECIALLY I HAVE TWO
HOURS OF SLEEP AND YOU

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KICK MY THING.


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I DON'T KNOW THESE
RULES OF BOOT CAMP YET.

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AND HE SAW IT IN ME AND
HE'S LIKE, OH, I'LL MAKE

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YOU THE LEADER.


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AND HE THOUGHT I
WAS GONNA FAIL.

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BUT WE DID REALLY
SUCCESSFUL.

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I WAS THE LEADER OF THEM
THE WHOLE TIME, WHICH WAS COOL.

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BUT I SAW WHAT GUYS WERE
LOOKING FOR IN A LEADER.

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AND AGAIN, MASCULINITY
IS INTERESTING.

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WHEN CHRIST IS NOT THE
KING OF MASCULINITY,

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IT'S CONSTANTLY
EVOLVING.

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AND YOU SEE IT ON SOCIAL
MEDIA WITH THESE LIKE

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PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST
INTO, HEY,

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I JUST RAN A MARATHON.


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WELL, NEXT I'M GOING TO
RUN A HUNDRED MILE RACE.

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NEXT I'M GONNA RUN 240.


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I JUST DID A
HUNDRED PUSH-UPS.

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I'M GOING TO DO A THOUSAND
PUSH-UPS, AND I'M GOING

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TO DO A THOUSAND
PULL-UPS IN A DAY.

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IT'S THIS THING YOU'RE
CHASING AFTER AND NEVER

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SATIATED WITH.


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AND I SAW THAT
IN THE MILITARY.

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>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY
MEN ARE LOOKING FOR

00:09:23.499 --> 00:09:24.633
IN A LEADER?


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>> YEAH, WELL, MY FAVORITE
SCENE OF ANY MOVIE IS IN

00:09:27.666 --> 00:09:32.133
BRAVEHEART, WHERE WILLIAM
WALLACE COMES UP AND HE'S

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LIKE, IF YOU WOULD JUST
SHOW THEM COURAGE,

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THEY WOULD FOLLOW YOU.


00:09:36.533 --> 00:09:38.399
LIKE, IF YOU WOULD HAVE
THAT, THESE GUYS WOULD

00:09:38.499 --> 00:09:40.366
FOLLOW YOU.


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AND I THINK MEN JUST WANT
TO SEE COURAGE IN ANOTHER MAN.

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>> THE OTHER SCENE
THAT RIVALS THAT ONE,

00:09:47.166 --> 00:09:51.733
COINCIDENTALLY, ALSO MEL
GIBSON IS IN THE PATRIOT.

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>> OH MY GOD.


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>> WHEN THE FIRSTBORN SON
IS TAKEN PRISONER,

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I HOPE I
DON'T CRY RIGHT NOW.

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>> DO IT.


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IT'S SO GOOD.


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>> BUT WHEN HE HE TELLS
CALEB, GO GET THE GUNS AND

00:10:00.966 --> 00:10:03.466
THROWS ONE TO BOTH BOYS,


00:10:03.566 --> 00:10:05.033
AND THAT SCENE RIGHT
THERE GETS ME EVERY TIME.

00:10:05.133 --> 00:10:06.299
>> EVERY TIME.


00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:08.232
>> BECAUSE THOSE TWO BOYS
BECOME MEN RIGHT IN THAT MOMENT

00:10:08.332 --> 00:10:09.233
AS HE TAKES THEM.


00:10:09.333 --> 00:10:10.332
DO YOU KNOW WHAT SCENE
I'M TALKING ABOUT?

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>> YEAH, WE
JUST WATCHED IT.

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>> OH, MAN, IT'S
SO POWERFUL.

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>> IT IS POWERFUL.


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>> AND THAT IS WHERE,
LIKE, WHEN MASCULINITY IS

00:10:18.933 --> 00:10:24.099
HANDED DOWN OR WHEN THE
THE PRESSURES COMING ONTO

00:10:24.199 --> 00:10:27.133
A FAMILY THROUGH WAR,


00:10:27.233 --> 00:10:28.633
WHATEVER THAT IS, THAT
PRESSURE'S COMING,

00:10:28.733 --> 00:10:29.933
MEN WILL FOLLOW THE GUY


00:10:30.033 --> 00:10:32.366
THAT SHOWS
COURAGE AND COURAGE

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ISN'T IGNORANCE OF FEAR.


00:10:34.366 --> 00:10:36.966
IT'S HIGH-LEVEL AWARENESS,
BUT SHOWING BRAVERY

00:10:37.066 --> 00:10:38.233
IN THE FACE OF IT.


00:10:38.333 --> 00:10:39.233
>> I DON'T WANT TO STAY --


00:10:39.333 --> 00:10:40.266
I DON'T WANT TO GO
OUT OF THE STORY YET.

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>> NO, GO.


00:10:41.233 --> 00:10:42.932
THIS IS INTERESTING.


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>> SO YOU'RE IN
THE BOOT CAMP AND YOU'RE

00:10:44.166 --> 00:10:49.033
THE LEADER OF IT, BUT
YOU'RE STILL STRUGGLING

00:10:49.133 --> 00:10:49.766
WITH, I DON'T KNOW.


00:10:49.866 --> 00:10:50.232
INSIDE YOU'RE WRESTLING.


00:10:50.332 --> 00:10:51.533
>> IDENTITY.


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>> YEAH, AND PURPOSE AND
FULFILLMENT.

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TELL US WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.


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>> YEAH, YEAH.


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SO IT WAS REALLY HARD
BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, MADE

00:10:58.666 --> 00:11:00.366
SOME AMAZING RELATIONSHIPS
WITH GUYS AND JUST

00:11:00.466 --> 00:11:03.199
WONDERING LIKE, WHO AM I?


00:11:03.299 --> 00:11:05.166
AND I HAD NO
IDEA WHO I WAS.

00:11:05.266 --> 00:11:07.099
I KNEW WHO I
DIDN'T WANT TO BE.

00:11:07.199 --> 00:11:09.866
AND I KEPT DOING THOSE THINGS.


00:11:09.966 --> 00:11:10.799
LIKE AFTER THE MILITARY,


00:11:10.899 --> 00:11:12.066
I'M LIKE, I'M
NOT GOING TO USE GOD'S

00:11:12.166 --> 00:11:13.699
NAME IN VAIN BECAUSE I WAS
IRRITATED WITH HOW MUCH I WAS,

00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:14.732
AND I'LL NEVER FORGET --


00:11:14.832 --> 00:11:17.166
AND I DIDN'T
KNOW GOD AT ALL.

00:11:17.266 --> 00:11:18.599
I WAS LIKE, WHY AM I
SAYING, WHY AM I CUSSING

00:11:18.699 --> 00:11:21.266
HIS NAME SO MUCH?


00:11:21.366 --> 00:11:22.466
>> THAT'S INTERESTING THAT
YOU HAD LIKE THIS INTERNAL

00:11:22.566 --> 00:11:24.766
REVERENCE WITHOUT EVEN
HAVING THAT PERSONAL

00:11:24.866 --> 00:11:25.766
RELATIONSHIP YET.


00:11:25.866 --> 00:11:26.933
>> YEAH, IT WAS REALLY
INTERESTING.

00:11:27.033 --> 00:11:27.933
LIKE, BECAUSE WHEN I WENT
IN THE MILITARY, THEY

00:11:28.033 --> 00:11:29.532
ASKED YOU LIKE, WHAT
RELIGION DO YOU WANT

00:11:29.632 --> 00:11:31.433
ON YOUR DOG TAGS?


00:11:31.533 --> 00:11:33.866
AND I SAID, CHRISTIAN,
BECAUSE I JUST REMEMBER

00:11:33.966 --> 00:11:37.266
THINKING, I MEAN, I HAD
A SPORTBIKE, A CROTCH ROCKET,

00:11:37.366 --> 00:11:38.999
AND I HAD AN ITHACUS FISH
ON THE BACK OF IT.

00:11:39.099 --> 00:11:40.732
AND I LITERALLY BOUGHT IT
IN HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE I'M

00:11:40.832 --> 00:11:44.066
LIKE, MAN, IF I CRASH ON
THIS THING, I NEED THAT.

00:11:44.166 --> 00:11:45.933
LIKE, IF GOD'S REAL, I'M
GONNA ASK HIM TO SAVE ME.

00:11:46.033 --> 00:11:47.233
>> YEAH, I GOT THE FISH.


00:11:47.333 --> 00:11:48.832
>> I GOT THIS FISH.


00:11:48.932 --> 00:11:49.800
YEAH.


00:11:49.900 --> 00:11:50.866
LIKE I NEED TO RUB THIS
FISH AND BLOW,

00:11:50.966 --> 00:11:52.366
AND THEN I'M SAVED.


00:11:52.466 --> 00:11:54.133
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M
DOING, BUT THEY ASKED,

00:11:54.233 --> 00:11:55.233
LIKE, WHAT DO YOU
WANT ON YOUR DOG TAG?

00:11:55.333 --> 00:11:56.766
AND I SAID, CHRISTIAN.


00:11:56.866 --> 00:12:00.366
AND I THINK SO MANY
MEN THAT I'VE BEEN

00:12:00.466 --> 00:12:03.066
IN CONVERSATION WITH, THEY
ALL KNOW WHEN THE GOING

00:12:03.166 --> 00:12:07.566
GETS REALLY, REALLY
ROUGH, WHO GOD REALLY IS.

00:12:07.666 --> 00:12:12.500
I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO
USE GOD'S NAME IN VAIN.

00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.366
AND IT WAS SO
MIND-BLOWING TO ME.

00:12:14.466 --> 00:12:16.399
ABOUT THREE WEEKS LATER,
I WAS USING HIS NAME IN VAIN,

00:12:16.499 --> 00:12:18.399
MORE THAN I EVER
HAD IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

00:12:18.499 --> 00:12:20.599
AND I'M LIKE,
WHAT IS HAPPENING?

00:12:20.699 --> 00:12:23.766
AND I COULDN'T STOP IT.


00:12:23.866 --> 00:12:27.766
SO YEAH, I WENT FROM THAT
TO THROUGH MY TRAINING AND

00:12:27.866 --> 00:12:29.932
MY SCHOOLING, AND IT
WAS, YOU KNOW, TO BE A

00:12:30.032 --> 00:12:31.400
NAVAL AIR CREWMAN.


00:12:31.500 --> 00:12:33.966
THERE WAS AN INTERESTING
PIPELINE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

00:12:34.066 --> 00:12:36.666
AND THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE --
LIKE, NOW I'M MARRIED

00:12:36.766 --> 00:12:37.599
WITH TWO KIDS.


00:12:37.699 --> 00:12:39.300
I DON'T HAVE A
LOT OF FREE TIME.

00:12:39.400 --> 00:12:42.466
THEN YOU'RE 18 WITH NOTHING,
LIKE NO RESPONSIBILITIES.

00:12:42.566 --> 00:12:45.233
SO YOU HAVE A
TON OF FREE TIME.

00:12:45.333 --> 00:12:47.366
BUT THAT'S WHERE I FOUND
MYSELF, JUST GOING INTO

00:12:47.466 --> 00:12:49.866
THAT PARTYING LIFESTYLE
AGAIN, BECAUSE THE GUY IS

00:12:49.966 --> 00:12:52.799
LIKE, IF YOU'RE GONNA LEAD
GUYS AND BE WITH LEADERS

00:12:52.899 --> 00:12:54.899
AND YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE
IN THE MILITARY, LIKE,

00:12:54.999 --> 00:12:55.633
LET'S GO OUT AND PARTY.


00:12:55.733 --> 00:12:56.933
>> AFTER, RIGHT.


00:12:57.033 --> 00:12:58.799
>> YEAH, LET'S
WORK HARD AND PLAY HARD.

00:12:58.899 --> 00:13:00.233
>> EXACTLY.


00:13:00.333 --> 00:13:01.700
>> AND THAT KIND OF
BUILDS A CAMARADERIE.

00:13:01.800 --> 00:13:02.632
>> YEAH.


00:13:02.732 --> 00:13:03.566
>> YOU KNOW.


00:13:03.666 --> 00:13:04.632
>> AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.


00:13:04.732 --> 00:13:06.632
SO SPRING BREAK 2004 CAME
AND WE WERE,

00:13:06.732 --> 00:13:08.832
ALL OF MY BUDDIES AND LIKE GUYS


00:13:08.932 --> 00:13:10.433
THAT WERE
GOING TO BE SPECIAL FORCES,

00:13:10.533 --> 00:13:11.966
TO NAVAL AIR CREWMEN, TO
RESCUE SWIMMERS,

00:13:12.066 --> 00:13:15.333
WE ALL WENT DOWN TO PANAMA CITY
FOR SPRING BREAK

00:13:15.433 --> 00:13:18.399
AND PARTIED OUR GUTS OUT.


00:13:18.499 --> 00:13:21.066
AND IT WAS THE ECHELON OF
LIKE, WHAT YOU CAN DO AS A,

00:13:21.166 --> 00:13:25.199
AS A MAN, REALLY IN OUR
WORLD AT THAT TIME

00:13:25.299 --> 00:13:29.999
AND NOW IN PARTYING,
AND I HIT ROCK BOTTOM.

00:13:30.099 --> 00:13:32.166
ONE OF MY BUDDIES, ONE OF
MY BEST FRIENDS,

00:13:32.266 --> 00:13:33.399
GOT IN A FIGHT.


00:13:33.499 --> 00:13:35.533
HE GOT JUMPED BY SIX GUYS,
AND I WASN'T THERE WITH HIM.

00:13:35.633 --> 00:13:38.266
I KNEW NOTHING
ABOUT IT, BUT I WAS --

00:13:38.366 --> 00:13:41.233
I WAS SO DRUNK IN OUR
HOTEL ROOM,

00:13:41.333 --> 00:13:42.200
I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING


00:13:42.300 --> 00:13:44.933
IF I KNEW THAT
WAS HAPPENING.

00:13:45.033 --> 00:13:46.933
AND LIKE, THAT'S THE CORE
OF WHAT I WANTED TO BE,

00:13:47.033 --> 00:13:50.066
IS THAT PERSON THAT WOULD
HELP PEOPLE IN TIME OF NEED.

00:13:50.166 --> 00:13:52.866
AND I MEAN, HE GOT HE
ALMOST GOT BEAT TO DEATH.

00:13:52.966 --> 00:13:54.799
SO IT WAS REALLY A
VIOLENT, YOU KNOW,

00:13:54.899 --> 00:13:55.866
SIX GUYS AGAINST ONE.


00:13:55.966 --> 00:13:57.433
THOSE ARE PRETTY
ROUGH ODDS.

00:13:57.533 --> 00:13:58.599
>> YEAH.


00:13:58.699 --> 00:13:59.900
>> SO YOU DON'T TYPICALLY WIN
THOSE UNLESS YOU'RE

00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.500
IN AN ACTION MOVIE.


00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:04.032
BUT IN REAL LIFE
YOU DON'T WIN THOSE.

00:14:04.132 --> 00:14:07.799
SO GOING AFTER THE
HIGHS, I HIT ROCK BOTTOM.

00:14:07.899 --> 00:14:12.266
AND I'LL NEVER FORGET THE
MOMENT OF SEEKING,

00:14:12.366 --> 00:14:13.433
IT WAS TUESDAY AFTERWARDS.


00:14:13.533 --> 00:14:18.032
SO WE GOT BACK, WENT
TO TRAINING ON MONDAY.

00:14:18.132 --> 00:14:20.100
ON TUESDAY AFTERNOON I HAD
A LITTLE WINDOW OF TIME

00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.432
AND I WAS JUST
THERE, LIKE, BROKEN.

00:14:22.532 --> 00:14:24.499
AND I WENT INTO MY
BARRACKS ROOM AND I OPENED

00:14:24.599 --> 00:14:26.632
THIS BIBLE AND I GOT ON MY
KNEES AND I HAD NO IDEA

00:14:26.732 --> 00:14:27.866
THAT YOU GET
ON YOUR KNEES.

00:14:27.966 --> 00:14:30.999
IT WAS JUST LIKE, I'M
FALLING IN SUBMISSION

00:14:31.099 --> 00:14:32.066
IF YOU'RE --


00:14:32.166 --> 00:14:33.133
>> AGAIN, THAT REVERENCE
PIECE WAS JUST KIND OF

00:14:33.233 --> 00:14:34.366
INSIDE OF YOU.


00:14:34.466 --> 00:14:36.799
>> YEAH, LIKE NOBODY TOLD
ME THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.

00:14:36.899 --> 00:14:37.933
IT WAS THE REVERENCE.


00:14:38.033 --> 00:14:40.066
AND I JUST, IT WAS THE MOST
GENUINE CONVERSATION

00:14:40.166 --> 00:14:42.433
I'VE EVER HAD OF, GOD,


00:14:42.533 --> 00:14:45.433
IF YOU'RE REAL, I'LL
LIVE FOR YOU AND I --

00:14:45.533 --> 00:14:46.999
THIS IS MY CONVERSATION.


00:14:47.099 --> 00:14:48.466
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD AT
PICKING FIGHTS,

00:14:48.566 --> 00:14:49.933
NOT REALLY GREAT AT
FINISHING THEM.

00:14:50.033 --> 00:14:50.899
AND I'M HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION WITH

00:14:50.999 --> 00:14:52.432
THE KING OF KINGS.


00:14:52.532 --> 00:14:55.433
SO THERE WAS NO, LIKE,
ROMANS ROAD PRAYER HERE.

00:14:55.533 --> 00:14:58.932
BUT IF YOU'RE REAL, I WILL
TELL EVERYBODY ABOUT YOU

00:14:59.032 --> 00:15:00.633
THAT I CAN.


00:15:00.733 --> 00:15:03.433
AND WHEN I FINISH THAT
PRAYER AND I, I TELL

00:15:03.533 --> 00:15:06.499
PEOPLE LIKE IT WAS
THE BEST HIGH I'VE EVER HAD

00:15:06.599 --> 00:15:08.366
THROUGH EVERY
FIBER OF MY BEING.

00:15:08.466 --> 00:15:09.566
>> WOW.


00:15:09.666 --> 00:15:11.333
>> I EXPERIENCED WHAT HEAVEN'S
GOING TO BE LIKE SOMEDAY.

00:15:11.433 --> 00:15:14.766
LIKE THAT MOMENT OF,
OH, THERE'S NO NEED OF

00:15:14.866 --> 00:15:16.299
ANYTHING ELSE.


00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:17.566
YOU FEEL AMAZING.


00:15:17.666 --> 00:15:20.533
SO I WAS JUST
LIKE, I MET GOD.

00:15:20.633 --> 00:15:21.933
I KNEW EVERYTHING HAD
CHANGED, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW

00:15:22.033 --> 00:15:24.199
2 CORINTHIANS 5:17.


00:15:24.299 --> 00:15:25.399
I KNEW EVERYTHING CHANGED IN


00:15:25.499 --> 00:15:28.400
MY LIFE AND I RAN OVER,


00:15:28.500 --> 00:15:30.299
IT'S CALLED, YOUR
BATHROOM'S CALLED YOUR HEAD

00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.433
IN THE NAVY, AND IT'S
CALLED YOUR HEAD MATE.

00:15:32.533 --> 00:15:33.600
I RAN OVER TO HIM AND I
WAS LIKE, DUDE,

00:15:33.700 --> 00:15:34.800
I JUST MET GOD.


00:15:34.900 --> 00:15:37.399
AND HE LOOKED AT ME
LIKE, YOU'RE CRAZY.

00:15:37.499 --> 00:15:40.266
HIS RESPONSE WAS, YOU'RE
PROBABLY STILL DRUNK.

00:15:40.366 --> 00:15:42.366
AND I WAS LIKE, NO MAN.


00:15:42.466 --> 00:15:44.666
LIKE, GOD JUST CHANGED
EVERYTHING IN MY LIFE.

00:15:44.766 --> 00:15:45.699
LIKE, I MET HIM.


00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:46.599
LIKE, I HAVE NO IDEA.


00:15:46.699 --> 00:15:47.632
>> AND HOW OLD ARE
YOU AT THIS POINT?

00:15:47.732 --> 00:15:48.566
>> 18.


00:15:48.666 --> 00:15:50.000
>> SO YOU'RE STILL 18?


00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:50.966
SO FRESH INTO
THE MILITARY?

00:15:51.066 --> 00:15:51.800
>> YEAH.


00:15:51.900 --> 00:15:54.199
SO FRESH IN THE MILITARY.


00:15:54.299 --> 00:15:56.199
AND IT WAS, IT WAS
REALLY, REALLY COOL, MAN.

00:15:56.299 --> 00:15:58.799
LIKE GOD CHANGED A LOT
IN MY HEART AND LIKE ONE

00:15:58.899 --> 00:16:02.600
MOMENT MADE ME NEW BUT
DID NOT GIVE ME,

00:16:02.700 --> 00:16:03.500
AND MY JOURNEY


00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.799
AND WHAT WE'LL DIVE INTO
MORE IS LIKE

00:16:05.899 --> 00:16:07.133
THE WORK OF SANCTIFICATION.


00:16:07.233 --> 00:16:08.899
SALVATION CHANGED ME.


00:16:08.999 --> 00:16:10.066
>> RIGHT.


00:16:10.166 --> 00:16:12.866
>> BUT I STILL HAD THE SAME
HIPPOCAMPUS IN MY BRAIN,

00:16:12.966 --> 00:16:15.700
OF ALL THOSE IMAGES AND
ALL THOSE MEMORIES.

00:16:15.800 --> 00:16:17.500
AND I STILL HAD MY
PREFRONTAL CORTEX AND MY

00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:20.433
FRONTAL LOBE AND I
STILL HAD THE SAME BRAIN

00:16:20.533 --> 00:16:23.466
FROM WHEN I LIVED IN
SIN, SAME HEART,

00:16:23.566 --> 00:16:26.533
SAME MUSCULOSKELETAL SYSTEM.


00:16:26.633 --> 00:16:29.266
AND I HAD A LOT OF
QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF

00:16:29.366 --> 00:16:32.766
QUESTIONS OF, I WANT TO
OBEY WHAT THIS WORD, THIS,

00:16:32.866 --> 00:16:33.632
THIS BIBLE SAYS.


00:16:33.732 --> 00:16:34.800
AND I HAD NO IDEA.


00:16:34.900 --> 00:16:36.066
I DIDN'T KNOW
IT HAD 66 BOOKS.

00:16:36.166 --> 00:16:38.333
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT OLD TESTAMENT
AND NEW TESTAMENT WERE,

00:16:38.433 --> 00:16:41.332
BUT I KNEW I WANTED TO LIVE OUT
WHAT WAS IN THERE.

00:16:41.432 --> 00:16:45.333
AND I HAD THIS BRAIN
FIGHTING AGAINST IT CONSTANTLY,

00:16:45.433 --> 00:16:46.800
BECAUSE I HAD,
AT THAT POINT, I DIDN'T

00:16:46.900 --> 00:16:49.299
KNOW BEFORE IT WAS A
PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTION, BUT

00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.199
I WAS LIVING A LIFE OF
JUST PURSUING LUST.

00:16:52.299 --> 00:16:57.232
AND LIKE, I'M A ALPHA
HETEROSEXUAL MALE THAT

00:16:57.332 --> 00:16:58.999
LIKE, I'M THANKFUL
GOD CREATED SEX.

00:16:59.099 --> 00:17:01.932
BUT I HAD NO CONTAINMENT
OF THAT AND NO

00:17:02.032 --> 00:17:05.866
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW GOD
CREATED IT, ACTUALLY.

00:17:05.966 --> 00:17:08.366
AND AGAIN, TO EVERY
LISTENER ON THE PLANET

00:17:08.466 --> 00:17:10.066
THAT WILL EVER HEAR
ANYTHING THAT I SAY,

00:17:10.166 --> 00:17:12.733
GOD'S WAYS ARE TO BE CELEBRATED.


00:17:12.833 --> 00:17:16.799
THEY ARE THE BEST, SEX
INSIDE OF A RELATIONSHIP.

00:17:16.899 --> 00:17:21.132
THAT IS A COVENANT BEFORE
GOD THAT WORSHIPS HIM

00:17:21.232 --> 00:17:23.266
WITH THAT SEX IS THE BEST
SEX ON THE PLANET.

00:17:23.366 --> 00:17:28.466
LIKE IT IS TO BE LIKE FOUGHT
FOR, FIGHT FOR PURITY,

00:17:28.566 --> 00:17:30.833
WIN THAT, AND THEN CONSTANTLY
FIGHT FOR PURITY IN THAT

00:17:30.933 --> 00:17:33.833
BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST
SEX ON THE PLANET.

00:17:33.933 --> 00:17:36.533
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW
THAT AT THE TIME.

00:17:36.633 --> 00:17:39.199
I JUST KNEW I WANTED
TO FOLLOW GOD.

00:17:39.299 --> 00:17:44.032
AND NOW I HAVE TO TRAIN MY
BRAIN HOW TO THINK ABOUT SEX.

00:17:44.132 --> 00:17:47.199
BUT I HAD TO DEAL WITH
A PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTION.

00:17:47.299 --> 00:17:49.166
>> I REMEMBER WHEN I, I
HAD A SIMILAR MOMENT WHEN

00:17:49.266 --> 00:17:51.833
I CAME BACK TO THE LORD
BECAUSE I HAD A HIATUS TOO,

00:17:51.933 --> 00:17:53.433
BUT I HAD PREVIOUSLY
GROWN UP INTO IT,

00:17:53.533 --> 00:17:55.466
GROWN UP WITH THE LORD.


00:17:55.566 --> 00:17:59.532
AND I REMEMBER I CRIED OUT,
I WAS IN A BED, BUT I FELT

00:17:59.632 --> 00:18:01.632
THE LORD'S PRESENCE COME
INTO THE ROOM AND THAT

00:18:01.732 --> 00:18:03.566
CHANGED AND MARKED
MY LIFE FOREVER.

00:18:03.666 --> 00:18:06.166
KIND OF LIKE YOU SAID,
YOU'RE ALMOST FEELING LIKE

00:18:06.266 --> 00:18:08.432
WHAT HEAVEN'S GOING TO BE
LIKE FOR A SPLIT MOMENT.

00:18:08.532 --> 00:18:09.933
AND I REMEMBER THINKING,
AFTER COMING OUT OF THAT

00:18:10.033 --> 00:18:13.366
EXPERIENCE, WOW, THIS IS
GOING TO BE LIKE A DAILY THING.

00:18:13.466 --> 00:18:14.866
THIS IS THE
COOLEST THING EVER.

00:18:14.966 --> 00:18:17.833
LIKE, I'M GOING TO FEEL
GOD'S LOVE LIKE THIS TANGIBLY.

00:18:17.933 --> 00:18:19.033
>> YEAH.


00:18:19.133 --> 00:18:23.499
>> BUT I WENT UP TO A CHURCH
TWO DAYS LATER AND GAVE MY

00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.899
HEART TO THE LORD, LIKE,
WALKED TO THE ALTAR.

00:18:25.999 --> 00:18:30.500
AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT,
MY IMMEDIATE NEXT THOUGHT

00:18:30.600 --> 00:18:32.400
WAS, GOD, THERE'S A LOT
OF PRETTY WOMEN IN HERE.

00:18:32.500 --> 00:18:33.799
WHICH ONE'S FOR ME?


00:18:33.899 --> 00:18:34.866
>> FOR SURE.


00:18:34.966 --> 00:18:36.899
>> SO I WENT FROM
SURRENDERING TO JESUS TO

00:18:36.999 --> 00:18:38.933
STARTING TO FIGURE OUT,
OKAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S

00:18:39.033 --> 00:18:39.766
THE GAME?


00:18:39.866 --> 00:18:41.399
>> HE'S GONNA HUNT.


00:18:41.499 --> 00:18:42.066
>> YEAH, YEAH, IT'S
A GREAT BATTLE.

00:18:42.166 --> 00:18:42.632
>> I TOTALLY RELATE.


00:18:42.732 --> 00:18:43.899
YEAH, YEAH.


00:18:43.999 --> 00:18:45.033
AND IT TAKES TIME.


00:18:45.133 --> 00:18:48.166
LIKE IT TOOK TIME TO,
AFTER THAT, TO COME OUT OF

00:18:48.266 --> 00:18:52.299
THE MINDSET AND, YOU KNOW,
LIVING IN THE WAY OF

00:18:52.399 --> 00:18:53.999
THE WORLD JUST DAILY.


00:18:54.099 --> 00:18:55.433
>> YEP.


00:18:55.533 --> 00:18:57.400
>> IT TAKES TIME OF
RENEWING YOURSELF THROUGH

00:18:57.500 --> 00:19:00.199
SCRIPTURE, THROUGH PRAYER,
THROUGH FELLOWSHIP,

00:19:00.299 --> 00:19:02.232
BEFORE YOU CAN KIND OF -- IT'S
LIKE BUILDING A MUSCLE,

00:19:02.332 --> 00:19:03.566
YOU KNOW, IT TAKES TIME
TO GET STRONGER.

00:19:03.666 --> 00:19:05.099
>> YEAH.


00:19:05.199 --> 00:19:07.032
AND IT'S AN
INTERESTING JOURNEY.

00:19:07.132 --> 00:19:08.966
AND I GET, YOU KNOW, I GO
THROUGH THAT, I GET SAVED,

00:19:09.066 --> 00:19:11.099
I GO TO CHURCH AND I ASK
GUYS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE

00:19:11.199 --> 00:19:14.333
QUESTIONS OF, HEY,
LIKE, I'M SAVED.

00:19:14.433 --> 00:19:17.233
I WANT JESUS AND I
WANT TO KNOW HIM.

00:19:17.333 --> 00:19:21.833
BUT I'M ALSO, LIKE
MASSIVELY INTERESTED IN WOMEN.

00:19:21.933 --> 00:19:24.299
AND I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM,
LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW TO PUT

00:19:24.399 --> 00:19:25.599
LIKE A SUIT OF SHAME ON.


00:19:25.699 --> 00:19:27.799
I WASN'T ASHAMED OF
ANYTHING LIKE, GOLLY,

00:19:27.899 --> 00:19:29.966
LIKE, WHAT DO YOU
GUYS DO ABOUT THIS?

00:19:30.066 --> 00:19:32.032
LIKE, ARE YOU
HORNY ALL THE TIME?

00:19:32.132 --> 00:19:36.499
AND THEY'D BE LIKE, OH,
OH, THIS GUY, I'M LIKE,

00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:37.400
I'M LIKE --


00:19:37.500 --> 00:19:38.933
>> DO WE HAVE
A PAMPHLET FOR THIS?

00:19:39.033 --> 00:19:40.099
>> DO WE?


00:19:40.199 --> 00:19:41.300
AND I JUST SAY ALL THE
TIME, LIKE, I JUST HAD

00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:45.699
THESE, THESE RATED R,
RATED-X STRUGGLES AND ISSUES AND

00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.666
GUYS WERE TALKING TO ME IN
RATED-G LANGUAGE AND LIKE

00:19:48.766 --> 00:19:52.200
EXPECTING ME TO
LIVE A RATED G LIFE.

00:19:52.300 --> 00:19:55.699
AND I WAS REALLY
TAKEN BACK BY IT.

00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:59.632
AND I JUST SAW THERE WAS
A NEED FOR LIKE TRUE,

00:19:59.732 --> 00:20:01.599
JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT
I HAD SEEN IN THAT SMALL

00:20:01.699 --> 00:20:04.166
AREA OF FLORIDA, I WAS
LIKE, OH, THERE'S A NEED

00:20:04.266 --> 00:20:06.866
FOR LIKE UNDERSTANDING OF
MASCULINITY BECAUSE IT

00:20:06.966 --> 00:20:07.700
STARTED WITH ME.


00:20:07.800 --> 00:20:08.866
I HAD NO IDEA.


00:20:08.966 --> 00:20:10.766
SO I JUST TOOK THE BIBLE
AND I READ IT COVER TO COVER

00:20:10.866 --> 00:20:13.733
AND SAW WILD STORIES,
LIKE ILLUSTRATIONS

00:20:13.833 --> 00:20:15.833
EZEKIEL USED OF,
LIKE --

00:20:15.933 --> 00:20:17.799
>> THE BIBLE'S X-RATED.


00:20:17.899 --> 00:20:19.399
>> WHOA! I'M LIKE, WOW, YOU
USED THAT

00:20:19.499 --> 00:20:20.766
AS A SERMON ILLUSTRATION, GOD?


00:20:20.866 --> 00:20:22.166
LIKE I WAS SO
PERPLEXED OF LIKE,

00:20:22.266 --> 00:20:24.099
YOU ARE NOT AFRAID.


00:20:24.199 --> 00:20:27.566
AND WHEN I REALIZED THAT
GOD WAS GOING TO SIT WITH ME

00:20:27.666 --> 00:20:31.066
IN MY X-RATED STRUGGLE
AND MY X-RATED TEMPTATION

00:20:31.166 --> 00:20:34.299
AND LOVE ME AS A TOTALLY
PURE, THE GOD THAT CREATED

00:20:34.399 --> 00:20:36.632
EVERYTHING, AND HE WAS
GOING TO LEAD ME INTO

00:20:36.732 --> 00:20:39.766
RIGHTEOUSNESS, WHICH I
THINK FOR MEN IS IS A

00:20:39.866 --> 00:20:41.599
RATED-R LIFE.


00:20:41.699 --> 00:20:44.666
AND WE SEE THINGS, TALKING
ABOUT GOING INTO WARS AND

00:20:44.766 --> 00:20:46.799
BATTLE SCENES, AND DOESN'T
MEAN WE HAVE TO BE THOSE

00:20:46.899 --> 00:20:48.966
RATED-R PEOPLE IN OUR
LIVES, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO

00:20:49.066 --> 00:20:51.866
SEE CONSTANT RATED-R
THINGS AS A FOLLOWER OF CHRIST

00:20:51.966 --> 00:20:53.733
AND GOD'S LIKE, I'M
GOING TO TAKE YOU THERE,

00:20:53.833 --> 00:20:55.266
AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU
THE STRENGTH TO BE PURE

00:20:55.366 --> 00:20:57.332
IN THE FACE OF IT.


00:20:57.432 --> 00:20:59.199
AND, MAN, IT
CHANGED MY LIFE.

00:20:59.299 --> 00:21:00.833
>> AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW,

00:21:00.933 --> 00:21:03.666
JUST GETTING TO KNOW YOU
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS,

00:21:03.766 --> 00:21:06.266
IS HE WIRED YOU
THAT WAY FOR A REASON?

00:21:06.366 --> 00:21:07.399
>> YEAH.


00:21:07.499 --> 00:21:09.766
>> BECAUSE HE INSTILLED IN
YOU ALL OF THAT STRENGTH

00:21:09.866 --> 00:21:13.200
AND THAT COURAGE WHICH IS
ACTUALLY TATTOOED ON YOUR ARM.

00:21:13.300 --> 00:21:14.499
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.


00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:15.633
LET'S GO.


00:21:15.733 --> 00:21:17.033
>> BECAUSE YOU WERE GONNA
LEAD MEN OUT OF BONDAGE

00:21:17.099 --> 00:21:19.800
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY BONDAGE
WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN,

00:21:19.900 --> 00:21:21.833
WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE,
PORN, LUST.

00:21:21.933 --> 00:21:24.233
IT'S THE ENEMY TRYING TO
TAKE THE MAN OUT OF

00:21:24.333 --> 00:21:26.399
HIS CALLING BY
DISTRACTING HIM.

00:21:26.499 --> 00:21:29.833
THE ENEMY WALKS THE EARTH
LIKE A LION

00:21:29.933 --> 00:21:31.833
SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR.


00:21:31.933 --> 00:21:32.933
>> YEAH.


00:21:33.033 --> 00:21:36.199
>> IT'S NOT FLUFFY, YOU
KNOW, CUDDLY STUFF HERE.

00:21:36.299 --> 00:21:38.566
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU
ARE ABLE TO BE TACTICAL

00:21:38.666 --> 00:21:39.600
WITH HOW YOU TALK TO MEN,


00:21:39.700 --> 00:21:40.200
AND YOU HAVE THAT GIFTING.


00:21:40.300 --> 00:21:41.266
>> YEAH.


00:21:41.366 --> 00:21:42.866
>> YOU KNOW, WALKING THE
LIFE THAT YOU HAVE.

00:21:42.966 --> 00:21:45.199
SO YOU'RE IN THE, YOU'RE IN
THE MILITARY AND YOU HAVE --

00:21:45.299 --> 00:21:45.966
>> I HAVE A QUESTION.


00:21:46.066 --> 00:21:47.866
>> OH, YES, LOVE.


00:21:47.966 --> 00:21:48.866
>> OKAY.


00:21:48.966 --> 00:21:50.700
JUST HOPPING ON TO
WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING,

00:21:50.800 --> 00:21:51.899
SO TWO THINGS.


00:21:51.999 --> 00:21:54.533
ONE, BECAUSE SIN HAS SO
MUCH POWER WHEN IT'S IN

00:21:54.633 --> 00:21:56.599
THE DARK AND THERE'S
SHAME, BUT WHEN YOU SHINE

00:21:56.699 --> 00:21:59.433
THE LIGHT ON IT, IT LOSES
A LOT OF ITS STRONGHOLD.

00:21:59.533 --> 00:22:02.333
HOW DID YOU NAVIGATE
COMING FROM THIS LIFESTYLE

00:22:02.433 --> 00:22:04.266
OF PARTYING TO PURITY?


00:22:04.366 --> 00:22:04.999
>> YEAH.


00:22:05.099 --> 00:22:06.599
>> HOW DID YOU GET FREEDOM?


00:22:06.699 --> 00:22:07.766
>> WITH BOLDNESS.


00:22:07.866 --> 00:22:09.832
LIKE I JUST SAID TO ANY
GUY OUT THERE, LIKE ASKING

00:22:09.932 --> 00:22:13.199
THAT QUESTION, IT'S BEING
BOLD, LIKE I WAS BOLD AS A

00:22:13.299 --> 00:22:16.733
SINNER, AND I'M BOLD AS A
MAN OF GOD TO SAY, HEY,

00:22:16.833 --> 00:22:19.133
LIKE, WHAT DO YOU
DO ABOUT THIS?

00:22:19.233 --> 00:22:23.732
AND I'D ASK THEM LIKE,
GUYS, HELP ME, LIKE,

00:22:23.832 --> 00:22:25.033
DON'T LEAVE A MAN BEHIND HERE.


00:22:25.133 --> 00:22:27.166
LIKE, I'M STRUGGLING
WITH THIS.

00:22:27.266 --> 00:22:29.466
THIS CAN'T BE THE
NORMALCY IN THE LIFE

00:22:29.566 --> 00:22:31.032
OF A BELIEVER, CORRECT?


00:22:31.132 --> 00:22:34.266
AND I JUST THINK YOU HAVE
TO BE SO BOLD FOR WHAT YOU

00:22:34.366 --> 00:22:38.599
BELIEVE TO SAY YOU DON'T
WANT TO TOLERATE HEBREWS 12,

00:22:38.699 --> 00:22:39.466
RIGHT,


00:22:39.566 --> 00:22:40.499
LIKE WE'RE GOING
TO HEBREWS 11.

00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.066
WE'RE GOING TO THINK OF
ALL OF THESE AMAZING

00:22:42.166 --> 00:22:44.100
PEOPLE THAT HAVE
GONE BEFORE US.

00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:45.832
AND IN THAT CONTEXT, WE'RE
GOING TO THINK OF THE ONES

00:22:45.932 --> 00:22:49.533
THAT SUCCEEDED AND THE
ONES THAT SAW, THAT WILL

00:22:49.633 --> 00:22:52.166
SUCCEED SUCCESS LATER
AND GOT TORTURED.

00:22:52.266 --> 00:22:55.033
BUT HEBREWS 12 TALKS ABOUT
WE NEED TO STRIP OFF EVERY

00:22:55.133 --> 00:22:58.599
SINGLE WEIGHT THAT WE
HAVE AND EVERY SIN.

00:22:58.699 --> 00:23:01.133
SO I THINK THERE'S JUST
THAT FREEDOM AND THAT

00:23:01.233 --> 00:23:03.966
BOLDNESS TO SAY, HEY, I'M
TRAINING FOR A 100-MILE RACE

00:23:04.066 --> 00:23:05.933
AND I HAVE A
40-POUND BACKPACK ON.

00:23:06.033 --> 00:23:07.799
DO YOU RUN WITH A
40-POUND BACKPACK, TOO?

00:23:07.899 --> 00:23:09.466
BECAUSE THIS REALLY
IS HURTING MY JOINTS.

00:23:09.566 --> 00:23:12.300
AND YOU'RE LIKE, NO, BRO,
YOU CAN TAKE THAT OFF.

00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:14.332
OH, THAT'S SO MUCH EASIER
TO RUN WITHOUT THIS

00:23:14.432 --> 00:23:15.400
BACKPACK ON.


00:23:15.500 --> 00:23:19.399
RUNNING IS STILL HARD,
BUT IT'S NOW MORE DOABLE.

00:23:19.499 --> 00:23:22.099
AND THE WAR FOR PURITY
WHEN MEN ARE BOLD WITH

00:23:22.199 --> 00:23:23.166
EACH OTHER,


00:23:23.266 --> 00:23:24.233
BECAUSE THIS
IS HOW IT GOES.

00:23:24.333 --> 00:23:25.666
EVERY SINGLE TIME I'VE
BEEN WITH A GUY THAT IS

00:23:25.766 --> 00:23:28.599
CONFESSING TO ME A
PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTION,

00:23:28.699 --> 00:23:30.400
LIKE THEY START
TO WHISPER, HEY, MAN,

00:23:30.500 --> 00:23:31.266
SO I'VE BEEN --


00:23:31.366 --> 00:23:32.233
>> IT'S SHAME.


00:23:32.333 --> 00:23:33.433
>> IT'S SHAME.


00:23:33.533 --> 00:23:34.799
AND IT'S LIKE, HEY, I WANT
TO SHOUT FROM THE ROOFTOPS

00:23:34.899 --> 00:23:38.766
THAT GOD CREATED YOU TO
DELIGHT IN SEX,

00:23:38.866 --> 00:23:40.900
LIKE GOD -- LIKE,


00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:42.732
HERE'S THE MAGNIFICENT
THING.

00:23:42.832 --> 00:23:46.199
I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF
MICROSOFT EXCEL,

00:23:46.299 --> 00:23:48.933
BUT I'M GLAD GOD DIDN'T SAY


00:23:49.033 --> 00:23:52.500
I'M GOING TO
CREATE HUMANS, TO THEN

00:23:52.600 --> 00:23:56.566
CREATE HUMANS WITH A
MICROSOFT EXCEL DOCUMENT.

00:23:56.666 --> 00:23:57.999
GOD LITERALLY SAID, I'M
GOING TO MAKE THE MOST

00:23:58.099 --> 00:24:00.099
BEAUTIFUL PART
OF HUMANITY

00:24:00.199 --> 00:24:03.266
START WITH AN ORGASM.


00:24:03.366 --> 00:24:05.266
THAT WAS GOD'S INTENTION.


00:24:05.366 --> 00:24:06.366
>> THAT'S PRETTY DOPE.


00:24:06.466 --> 00:24:07.566
>> IT'S REALLY DOPE.


00:24:07.666 --> 00:24:09.733
LIKE, WOW, GOD, THANK YOU.


00:24:09.833 --> 00:24:10.799
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.


00:24:10.899 --> 00:24:12.333
AND IT'S NOT THE PERFECT
EXCEL SHEET WITH THE

00:24:12.433 --> 00:24:14.032
PERFECT FORMULA THAT EVERY
MARRIED COUPLE HAS TO

00:24:14.132 --> 00:24:15.666
FIGURE OUT.


00:24:15.766 --> 00:24:17.799
IT IS -- IT STARTS WITH AN
ORGASM AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL

00:24:17.899 --> 00:24:20.733
AND IT'S MAGNIFICENT, AND
THE ENEMY WANTS TO DESTROY THAT

00:24:20.833 --> 00:24:24.133
AND MAKE GUYS NOT
UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF IT.

00:24:24.233 --> 00:24:26.333
AND THEN HE WANTS TO
CLOTHE THEM WITH SHAME

00:24:26.433 --> 00:24:28.599
INSTEAD OF THE ARMOR WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO WALK IN.

00:24:28.699 --> 00:24:31.133
>> BECAUSE ONE THING THAT,
ONE OF THOSE TACTICS THAT

00:24:31.233 --> 00:24:33.599
IT CAN DO IS IT CAN GET
GUYS AWAY FROM EVEN

00:24:33.699 --> 00:24:35.733
WANTING TO BE MARRIED.


00:24:35.833 --> 00:24:36.499
>> YEAH.


00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:37.466
>> AND PURSUE LIKE, OH, I CAN


00:24:37.566 --> 00:24:38.900
JUST GET ALL OF
THIS OVER HERE.

00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:39.933
>> YEAH.


00:24:40.033 --> 00:24:41.533
>> WHY DO I NEED THE
COVENANT OF MARRIAGE?

00:24:41.633 --> 00:24:43.733
AND IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE
THEN YOU'RE -- THE ENEMY

00:24:43.833 --> 00:24:45.832
WANTS TO ULTIMATELY
DESTROY FAMILIES.

00:24:45.932 --> 00:24:46.566
>> YEP.


00:24:46.666 --> 00:24:47.799
>> YEAH.


00:24:47.899 --> 00:24:49.332
>> AND SO IT'S AN ATTACK ON
MAN, BUT IT'S AN ATTACK ON

00:24:49.432 --> 00:24:51.666
FAMILIES AND CREATION OF
FAMILIES, WHICH IS WHY

00:24:51.766 --> 00:24:52.899
IT'S SO IMPORTANT.


00:24:52.999 --> 00:24:54.666
LIKE, I LIKE THAT POINT
ABOUT FAMILIES STARTING

00:24:54.766 --> 00:24:55.999
WITH AN ORGASM.


00:24:56.099 --> 00:24:58.132
IT'S LIKE, THIS
IS GOD'S DESIGN.

00:24:58.232 --> 00:25:00.599
AND HE DESIGNED IT FOR
THIS WAY, FOR A PURPOSE.

00:25:00.699 --> 00:25:01.766
>> FOR A PURPOSE.


00:25:01.866 --> 00:25:03.399
AND IT'S WONDERFUL.


00:25:03.499 --> 00:25:05.100
LIKE, TASTE AND SEE
THAT GOD IS GOOD.

00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.499
LET'S START WITH EVERY MAN
DEALING WITH A PORNOGRAPHY

00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:09.366
ADDICTION, AND EVERY WOMAN,


00:25:09.466 --> 00:25:11.266
LIKE I DEAL WITH A TON OF LIKE,


00:25:11.366 --> 00:25:13.699
HEY, I STRUGGLE
WITH THIS TOO.

00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:16.366
IT'S A HUMAN BRAIN
CONDITION AND SATAN LOVES

00:25:16.466 --> 00:25:20.499
TO DESTROY HUMANS WITH
SEXUAL DESTRUCTION AND

00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.200
DESTRUCTIVE THOUGHTS TO
SAY, NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY

00:25:22.300 --> 00:25:23.400
GOD'S CREATION.


00:25:23.500 --> 00:25:26.166
SO WHEN GUYS ARE LIKE,
YEAH, I HAVE A PORN ADDICTION,

00:25:26.266 --> 00:25:27.366
IT'S LIKE, BRO, YOU.


00:25:27.466 --> 00:25:28.799
AND LIKE, LET'S
READ THE RESEARCH.

00:25:28.899 --> 00:25:31.933
LIKE 97% OF CHURCH-ATTENDING MEN
ARE DEALING WITH

00:25:32.033 --> 00:25:33.666
SOMETHING ON THIS LEVEL.


00:25:33.766 --> 00:25:34.499
OH, COOL.


00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:35.766
LIKE WELCOME TO
BROTHERHOOD.

00:25:35.866 --> 00:25:36.999
I'M GOING TO TEXT YOU, LIKE
I'M GOING TO LOOK AT

00:25:37.099 --> 00:25:38.633
YOUR PHONE AND YOUR HISTORY.


00:25:38.733 --> 00:25:40.100
THERE'S FREEDOM HERE.


00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.033
AND CHRIST GIVES
YOU THE STRENGTH.

00:25:42.133 --> 00:25:42.966
WE'RE GOING TO
PRAY TOGETHER.

00:25:43.066 --> 00:25:44.666
YOU'RE GOING TO
EXPERIENCE THAT HEALING.

00:25:44.766 --> 00:25:46.933
WE'RE GOING TO
WALK THROUGH THIS.

00:25:47.033 --> 00:25:48.866
BUT TAKE THAT 40-POUND
BACKPACK OFF, MAN.

00:25:48.966 --> 00:25:50.299
LIKE, LET'S RUN
WITHOUT THAT.

00:25:50.399 --> 00:25:51.433
IT'S REALLY GREAT.


00:25:51.533 --> 00:25:53.066
YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE
TO RUN, BUT YOU'RE GOING

00:25:53.166 --> 00:25:54.566
TO DO IT WITH A
LOT LESS WEIGHT.

00:25:54.666 --> 00:25:57.900
AND WITHOUT THE BONDAGE,
WITHOUT SATAN, JUST LIKE

00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:00.599
COMPLETELY WARRING TO
DESTROY YOUR SOUL.

00:26:00.699 --> 00:26:02.066
>> AND ONE OF THE
SHAMELESS PLUGS

00:26:02.166 --> 00:26:04.833
I'M GOING TO GIVE,


00:26:04.933 --> 00:26:07.699
BEFORE THIS ONE
IS A BOOK THAT CODY WROTE

00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.566
CALLED<i>21 DAYS TO
FREEDOM FROM PORN,</i>

00:26:10.666 --> 00:26:12.632
<i>THE DRAGON HUNT.</i>


00:26:12.732 --> 00:26:13.733
>> LOVE THAT NAME.


00:26:13.833 --> 00:26:15.699
>> SO TELL US ABOUT THIS
AND WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO

00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:16.832
PURCHASE THEM, I'M SURE
AT AMAZON.

00:26:16.932 --> 00:26:17.966
>> THIS IS ON,
THIS IS ON AMAZON.

00:26:18.066 --> 00:26:19.499
AND THIS IS, THERE'S A
WARNING ON THIS ONE.

00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.366
THERE'S A WARNING LABEL
ON ALL OF MY BOOKS.

00:26:21.466 --> 00:26:24.200
BUT THIS ONE IS FOR
MARRIED MEN ONLY.

00:26:24.300 --> 00:26:26.099
IT IS --


00:26:26.199 --> 00:26:27.833
IT CAME FROM MY
FRUSTRATION WITH SEEING

00:26:27.933 --> 00:26:29.866
THE ENEMY DESTROY
MEN WITH PORNOGRAPHY.

00:26:29.966 --> 00:26:31.733
BECAUSE I TELL PEOPLE
ALL THE TIME, IF YOU'RE

00:26:31.833 --> 00:26:34.999
DEALING WITH AN ADDICTION,
IT'S A SPIRITUAL PROBLEM

00:26:35.099 --> 00:26:36.966
AND IT'S A SPIRITUAL
STRONGHOLD.

00:26:37.066 --> 00:26:39.599
IT'S NOT A NEUROLOGICAL,
LIKE THERE'S NO

00:26:39.699 --> 00:26:42.033
NEUROLOGICAL SOLUTION
FOR SPIRITUAL PROBLEMS.

00:26:42.133 --> 00:26:43.633
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THE
CHRISTIAN CHURCH THAT'S

00:26:43.733 --> 00:26:45.899
DEALING AND TRYING TO DEAL
WITH PSYCHOLOGICAL OR

00:26:45.999 --> 00:26:49.632
NEUROLOGICAL TO SOLVE
SPIRITUAL PROBLEMS.

00:26:49.732 --> 00:26:51.933
WE'RE BELIEVERS, LIKE, WE
ARE SPIRIT BEINGS,

00:26:52.033 --> 00:26:56.266
LIKE, THE ANSWER IS JESUS, AND
HE WINS AND HE KNOCKS

00:26:56.366 --> 00:26:59.266
THOSE STRONGHOLDS OFF.


00:26:59.366 --> 00:27:01.199
BUT THAT BOOK, I HAD
TO GO TO A DARKER PLACE

00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:02.133
TO WRITE IT.


00:27:02.233 --> 00:27:04.166
IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS
PRESENT DARKNESS

00:27:04.266 --> 00:27:06.666
AND C.S. LEWIS'S<i>THE SCREWTAPE
LETTERS</i> AND THE OATH,

00:27:06.766 --> 00:27:08.999
WRITTEN TOGETHER
IN 21 DAYS.

00:27:09.099 --> 00:27:12.766
SO THIS DEMON, THE DRAGON,
IS TRAINING THESE OTHER

00:27:12.866 --> 00:27:15.033
DEMONS HOW TO
DESTROY A MAN.

00:27:15.133 --> 00:27:16.666
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN
ACTIVE PURSUIT OF

00:27:16.766 --> 00:27:19.299
DESTROYING A MARRIED
MAN WITH PORNOGRAPHY.

00:27:19.399 --> 00:27:20.600
>> WOW.


00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:23.399
>> AND THERE'S ANGELS TRYING
TO HELP THIS MAN AND STOP HIM.

00:27:23.499 --> 00:27:25.533
BUT IT GETS REALLY,
REALLY REAL.

00:27:25.633 --> 00:27:27.066
AND YOU NEED TO WALK
THROUGH IT WITH OTHER GUYS.

00:27:27.166 --> 00:27:29.032
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE,
OH, YEAH, I'M A DUDE.

00:27:29.132 --> 00:27:30.166
LIKE IN THE STORY,


00:27:30.266 --> 00:27:32.833
THE GUY'S LIKE, HE'S
HORNY, LAYS OVER TO HIS WIFE

00:27:32.933 --> 00:27:34.566
AND TRIES TO
LIKE, SHOOT HIS SHOT.

00:27:34.666 --> 00:27:36.033
AND SHE'S LIKE,
I'M JUST, I'M TIRED.

00:27:36.133 --> 00:27:39.200
AND I MAKE IT VERY CLEAR
THIS IS NOT A FEMALE/MALE.

00:27:39.300 --> 00:27:41.000
THIS IS A
SPIRITUAL ATTACK.

00:27:41.100 --> 00:27:43.666
AND I HIGHLIGHT THE WOMAN
IN IT BECAUSE I'M MARRIED

00:27:43.766 --> 00:27:46.033
AND I LOVE MY
WIFE SO MUCH,

00:27:46.133 --> 00:27:47.799
AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS
WE HAVE TO LEARN,

00:27:47.899 --> 00:27:50.499
BUT I JUST
ILLUMINATE HOW THE DEMON

00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.499
OF DIVISION WILL
ATTACK IN THAT PROCESS.

00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.200
SO IT'S THIS
REALLY DARK ATTACK.

00:27:57.300 --> 00:27:59.199
AND THEN MY FAVORITE DAY
IS DAY 21, BECAUSE THEN

00:27:59.299 --> 00:28:02.432
THE KING STEPS IN
AND WINS THE WAR.

00:28:02.532 --> 00:28:03.466
BUT IT'S 21 DAYS.


00:28:03.566 --> 00:28:05.532
IF GUYS GO THROUGH IT,
THEY WILL EXPERIENCE

00:28:05.632 --> 00:28:07.566
THE FREEDOM CHRIST HAS AND
THEY'LL WALK THROUGH IT

00:28:07.666 --> 00:28:08.699
WITH OTHER MEN.


00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:10.633
BUT I JUST GOT FRUSTRATED
TO SEE LIKE GUYS TRYING TO

00:28:10.733 --> 00:28:14.333
BE NEUROLOGICAL OR
PSYCHOLOGICAL WITH

00:28:14.433 --> 00:28:15.566
A SPIRITUAL ATTACK.


00:28:15.666 --> 00:28:17.999
AND SATAN'S JUST
STANDING OVER THEM LIKE

00:28:18.099 --> 00:28:20.666
STRANGLEHOLD ON THEM, AND
THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX IT

00:28:20.766 --> 00:28:23.899
WITH THE NEXT BRENE
BROWN BOOK OUT THERE.

00:28:23.999 --> 00:28:25.333
IT'S LIKE, GUYS,
THAT'S GREAT READING.

00:28:25.433 --> 00:28:27.932
I LOVE BRENE BROWN,
LIKE AWESOME.

00:28:28.032 --> 00:28:30.699
BUT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THAT SATAN AND HIS DEMONS

00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.099
ARE TRYING TO CHOKE YOUR LIFE
OUT OF ANYTHING THAT

00:28:33.199 --> 00:28:34.399
EMANATES CHRIST IN IT,


00:28:34.499 --> 00:28:37.633
SO YOU HAVE TO WAKE UP AND
THAT BOOK WAKES MEN UP.

00:28:37.733 --> 00:28:38.633
>> THAT'S GOOD.


00:28:38.733 --> 00:28:39.900
>> YEAH.


00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.099
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I
REMEMBER HEARING YOU TALK ABOUT

00:28:42.199 --> 00:28:44.566
IS THERE'S USUALLY A
DEEPER ROOT

00:28:44.666 --> 00:28:46.166
TO PORNOGRAPHY ADDICTION.


00:28:46.266 --> 00:28:47.866
WHAT WOULD YOU
SAY THAT IS?

00:28:47.966 --> 00:28:51.233
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I FOUND,


00:28:51.333 --> 00:28:52.466
I HAVE A GRADUATE DEGREE.


00:28:52.566 --> 00:28:53.566
I DON'T HAVE A PHD.


00:28:53.666 --> 00:28:54.833
I NEVER WANT ONE.


00:28:54.933 --> 00:28:59.732
WHAT I FOUND IN THE THE
COMBAT OF THE MASCULINE SOUL --

00:28:59.832 --> 00:29:01.733
SO I DO MOVIES, I LOVE
MOVIES, I THINK IN TERMS

00:29:01.833 --> 00:29:02.933
OF MOVIES A LOT.


00:29:03.033 --> 00:29:05.733
ONE OF MY FAVORITE MOVIES
ACTUALLY, IS<i>WONDER WOMAN.</i>

00:29:05.833 --> 00:29:07.766
ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCENES
OF ANY MOVIE I'VE EVER

00:29:07.866 --> 00:29:10.066
SEEN SPIRITUALLY IS HAVE
YOU GUYS SEEN<i>WONDER WOMAN?</i>

00:29:10.166 --> 00:29:10.866
>> YEAH I HAVE.


00:29:10.966 --> 00:29:12.000
>> SHE LOVES THAT MOVIE.


00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:14.166
>> SO GOOD, SO GOOD.


00:29:14.266 --> 00:29:15.033
OKAY, SO THERE'S
A SCENE WHERE --

00:29:15.133 --> 00:29:16.700
>> GAL GADOT, RIGHT?


00:29:16.800 --> 00:29:17.699
>> YEAH. GAL GADOT, YEAH.


00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.600
>> YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE.


00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:21.133
>> SO IT'S WORLD WAR I
AND ALL THESE GUYS ARE IN

00:29:21.233 --> 00:29:24.332
THE TRENCH AND THEY'RE
EXPLAINING TO WONDER WOMAN,

00:29:24.432 --> 00:29:27.366
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 13
MONTHS AND WE'VE ONLY,

00:29:27.466 --> 00:29:30.233
WE'VE ONLY
ADVANCED AN INCH.

00:29:30.333 --> 00:29:32.632
AND I MEAN, LIKE, HOW
DEMORALIZING WOULD THAT BE

00:29:32.732 --> 00:29:34.299
AS A GROUP OF MEN?


00:29:34.399 --> 00:29:36.499
AND SHE LISTENS
TO THEM, KIND OF,

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:38.733
AND SHE PUTS HER ARMOR ON
AND SHE'S JUST LISTENING

00:29:38.833 --> 00:29:41.099
TO THEM AND LOOKING AT
THEM, AND SHE GETS UP OUT

00:29:41.199 --> 00:29:43.766
OF THAT RAVINE AND JUST
SPRINTS AT THE ENEMY.

00:29:43.866 --> 00:29:46.399
AND JUST LIKE ALL THE GUYS
SEE HER COURAGE AND WHAT

00:29:46.499 --> 00:29:48.932
SHE'S DOING AND JUST,
LIKE, SPRINT AFTER HIM.

00:29:49.032 --> 00:29:51.700
AND WHAT HAS TAKEN THEM AN
INCH, 13 MONTHS TO GET AN INCH,

00:29:51.800 --> 00:29:54.233
SHE JUST SPRINTS AND THEY TAKE
THE ENEMY STRONGHOLD.

00:29:54.333 --> 00:29:57.899
AND IT'S SO GREAT IN THE
PICTURE OF WHAT THIS IS

00:29:57.999 --> 00:29:59.933
AND PORNOGRAPHY
ADDICTIONS AND STRONGHOLDS.

00:30:00.033 --> 00:30:02.699
SAY, MAN, THE MOMENT YOU
PUT ON THE ARMOR OF CHRIST

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.499
AND START RUNNING FORWARD,
THAT LIKE YOU'LL,

00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.633
YOU'LL TAKE THE HILL, THAT
STRONGHOLD WILL BE NO MORE.

00:30:09.733 --> 00:30:11.532
AND SATAN HATES THE
REALITY OF THAT.

00:30:11.632 --> 00:30:14.533
HE WANTS GUYS TO LAY IN
THAT PIT THINKING IT'S,

00:30:14.633 --> 00:30:16.533
YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE
A LIFE OF INCHES OF

00:30:16.633 --> 00:30:19.066
ADVANCEMENT, WHEN YOU COULD
SUIT UP IN GOD'S STRENGTH

00:30:19.166 --> 00:30:21.499
AND GO TAKE THE HILL.


00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.032
AND WE JUST HAVE TO GET
THERE FOR MEN, FOR WOMEN,

00:30:25.132 --> 00:30:27.400
TO SAY, HEY, LET'S
BE HONEST WITH THIS.

00:30:27.500 --> 00:30:29.266
LIKE IT'S HARD.


00:30:29.366 --> 00:30:33.366
LIKE AS A GUY, THERE'S A
LOT OF TEMPTATION,

00:30:33.466 --> 00:30:36.699
AND I'M NEVER IGNORANT TO IT
BECAUSE WE READ ABOUT DAVID.

00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:38.066
I'M 40.


00:30:38.166 --> 00:30:41.199
DAVID SCREWED UP HIS
ENTIRE LIFE AT 50.

00:30:41.299 --> 00:30:43.133
SO IT'S BEING AWARE
THAT, LIKE, YEAH.

00:30:43.233 --> 00:30:45.366
>> BE SOBER AND VIGILANT
LIKE PETER SAYS.

00:30:45.466 --> 00:30:47.933
AND JUST STAY HUMBLE,
LIKE YOU NEED GOD.

00:30:48.033 --> 00:30:48.766
>> STAY HUMBLE.


00:30:48.866 --> 00:30:50.032
YEAH.


00:30:50.132 --> 00:30:53.999
LIKE THERE'S AN EXAMPLE IN
THE BIBLE WHERE AN ANGEL KILLS

00:30:54.099 --> 00:30:57.799
BY HIMSELF
185,000 PEOPLE.

00:30:57.899 --> 00:30:59.966
>> YEAH, I KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

00:31:00.066 --> 00:31:01.899
>> AND IT'S WHEN I BELIEVE
IT'S WHEN HEZEKIAH IS

00:31:01.999 --> 00:31:05.399
WAITING FOR GOD
TO DELIVER THEM.

00:31:05.499 --> 00:31:08.466
BUT WE HAVE DUDES THINKING
THEY CAN JUST TAKE ON DEMONS

00:31:08.566 --> 00:31:10.300
WITHOUT BEING
CLOTHED IN CHRIST.

00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:11.466
LIKE YOU WILL --


00:31:11.566 --> 00:31:13.366
LIKE THE BOOK OF
ACTS, YOU'LL GET BEAT NAKED

00:31:13.466 --> 00:31:15.366
AND SENT OUT OF THE
HOUSE, RUNNING WITHOUT

00:31:15.466 --> 00:31:16.533
YOUR DIGNITY.


00:31:16.633 --> 00:31:17.666
WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND,


00:31:17.766 --> 00:31:19.433
AND THAT'S WHERE
THAT BOOK COMES FROM,

00:31:19.533 --> 00:31:20.866
THE DEMON HUNT.


00:31:20.966 --> 00:31:23.633
<i>THE DRAGON HUNT</i> IS
GETTING MEN TO UNDERSTAND

00:31:23.733 --> 00:31:25.532
VICTORY IS POSSIBLE.


00:31:25.632 --> 00:31:27.433
BUT WITH ANYTHING THAT WE
GO THROUGH IN THIS LIFE,

00:31:27.533 --> 00:31:28.632
VICTORY IS IMPOSSIBLE


00:31:28.732 --> 00:31:30.733
IF YOU'RE NOT
WALKING IN CHRIST.

00:31:30.833 --> 00:31:34.200
AND WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE
ACTUAL, LIKE BROTHERS OR SISTERS

00:31:34.300 --> 00:31:35.800
IN CHRIST WITH YOU.


00:31:35.900 --> 00:31:37.000
>> YEAH.


00:31:37.100 --> 00:31:38.799
>> SO YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO
LIKE, IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW,

00:31:38.899 --> 00:31:41.533
GIRLFRIENDS WE'RE TALKING
TO, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT,

00:31:41.633 --> 00:31:43.700
WHERE SATAN CAN
DESTROY MY LIFE.

00:31:43.800 --> 00:31:46.699
AND I GOT SICK OF IT WITH,
LIKE, GOING TO MEN'S

00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:48.533
MINISTRY EVENTS AND GOING
TO, YOU KNOW, I'LL NEVER

00:31:48.633 --> 00:31:50.699
FORGET A CONVERSATION I
HAD WITH A GUY.

00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:52.432
LIKE, I JUST ASKED HIM
LIKE, DUDE, I WAS ON THE

00:31:52.532 --> 00:31:53.833
SPEAKING CIRCUIT
AT THE TIME.

00:31:53.933 --> 00:31:55.799
SO MEN'S CONFERENCES, EVENTS,
FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS,

00:31:55.899 --> 00:31:57.000
THAT'S WHAT I DID.


00:31:57.100 --> 00:31:59.532
AND I WAS ASKING THIS
DUDE, WE'RE IN THE GREEN ROOM.

00:31:59.632 --> 00:32:01.499
AND LIKE, I WAS LIKE, SO
LIKE, DO YOU STRUGGLE

00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.400
WITH PORN WHEN YOU'RE
TRAVELING?

00:32:03.500 --> 00:32:05.333
NO, DUDE, I STRUGGLE MORE
WITH LOOKING AT ESPN

00:32:05.433 --> 00:32:06.466
THAN I DO PORN.


00:32:06.566 --> 00:32:10.300
I REMEMBER THINKING, LIKE,
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.466
LIKE, I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT.

00:32:12.566 --> 00:32:14.599
LIKE, LET'S --
THAT'S NOT REAL.

00:32:14.699 --> 00:32:16.666
AND THAT GUY ENDED UP
HAVING A REALLY SERIOUS

00:32:16.766 --> 00:32:19.699
PROBLEM WITH IT LATER.


00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.866
AND I JUST THINK THERE
HAS TO BE A CULTURE OF LIKE,

00:32:21.966 --> 00:32:23.366
MAN, LET'S BE HONEST
WITH EACH OTHER.

00:32:23.466 --> 00:32:23.999
>> AND VULNERABILITY.


00:32:24.099 --> 00:32:25.166
>> TRANSPARENCY. YEAH.


00:32:25.266 --> 00:32:26.100
BECAUSE THERE'S
STRENGTH IN THAT.

00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:27.799
>> YEAH.


00:32:27.899 --> 00:32:28.800
>> LIKE IT'S
HARD TO DO IT, BUT THERE'S

00:32:28.900 --> 00:32:29.933
STRENGTH IN IT.


00:32:30.033 --> 00:32:31.000
>> YEAH.


00:32:31.100 --> 00:32:32.366
AND THE OLDER I GET LIKE,
IF THERE'S A BAD GUY

00:32:32.466 --> 00:32:34.600
COMING IN THIS ROOM, I'M
LIKE, LET'S GO

00:32:34.700 --> 00:32:35.700
FIGHT HIM TOGETHER.


00:32:35.800 --> 00:32:37.066
LIKE I DON'T HAVE TO
SHOW OFF TO ANYBODY.

00:32:37.166 --> 00:32:38.866
YOU'RE STRONGER
WITH MORE NUMBERS.

00:32:38.966 --> 00:32:42.399
SO LIKE, DON'T FIGHT THE
WORK OF THE ENEMY BY YOURSELF.

00:32:42.499 --> 00:32:44.166
>> I LOVE THAT WE'RE
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION

00:32:44.266 --> 00:32:47.366
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN
TODAY'S SOCIETY, I THINK

00:32:47.466 --> 00:32:49.832
THERE IS, BECAUSE THERE'S
SO MUCH DEMUSCULATION GOING ON,

00:32:49.932 --> 00:32:51.000
>> YES.


00:32:51.100 --> 00:32:54.032
>> OF MEN, THERE HAS BEEN A
RISING UP OF MEN WANTING

00:32:54.132 --> 00:32:56.266
MASCULINITY AND
MASCULINE ROLE MODELS.

00:32:56.366 --> 00:32:57.966
BUT THEN YOU HAVE
THIS OFFSHOOT.

00:32:58.066 --> 00:33:00.166
YOU'RE KIND OF HITTING
THIS TOPIC WHERE IT'S LIKE

00:33:00.266 --> 00:33:02.233
THERE COULD BE MASCULINITY
WITHOUT CHRIST,

00:33:02.333 --> 00:33:04.866
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE
HARMFUL AS WELL.

00:33:04.966 --> 00:33:07.333
AND SO YOU THINK ABOUT
LIKE THE RED PILL MOVEMENT

00:33:07.433 --> 00:33:08.633
AND THESE PEOPLE, I'LL
JUST SAY NAMES LIKE

00:33:08.733 --> 00:33:11.099
ANDREW TATE AND THEY'RE
NOT GODLY AT ALL.

00:33:11.199 --> 00:33:13.499
AND THEY'RE SAYING, SLEEP
WITH AS MANY WOMEN AS YOU WANT.

00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.033
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK
HE ACTUALLY PRODUCES PORN.

00:33:16.133 --> 00:33:17.866
I THINK HE GOT IN
TROUBLE FOR THAT.

00:33:17.966 --> 00:33:19.700
I DON'T FOLLOW HIM VERY
CLOSELY, OBVIOUSLY.

00:33:19.800 --> 00:33:20.799
BUT, YOU KNOW --


00:33:20.899 --> 00:33:22.366
>> HE WAS SOMETHING
LIKE HE WAS HAVING --

00:33:22.466 --> 00:33:23.166
>> HUMAN TRAFFICKING.


00:33:23.266 --> 00:33:24.499
>> YEAH.


00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:28.366
AND HE WAS HAVING -- BUT GUYS
WERE TEXT MESSAGING AS GIRLS.

00:33:28.466 --> 00:33:28.966
>> YEAH.


00:33:29.066 --> 00:33:31.133
>> ANYWAYS, SKETCHY GUY.


00:33:31.233 --> 00:33:33.266
BUT, I MEAN, ALL THESE
MEN WERE LOOKING UP TO HIM

00:33:33.366 --> 00:33:35.833
BECAUSE HE WAS BEING
VERY OUTSPOKEN.

00:33:35.933 --> 00:33:38.666
AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS
TALKING ABOUT MASCULINITY.

00:33:38.766 --> 00:33:40.800
AND SO I THINK THERE IS A
HUNGER IN MEN FOR THAT.

00:33:40.900 --> 00:33:44.233
AND SO CONTRAST WORLDLY
MASCULINITY

00:33:44.333 --> 00:33:46.133
TO BIBLICAL MASCULINITY.


00:33:46.233 --> 00:33:46.932
>> YEAH.


00:33:47.032 --> 00:33:47.699
>> THAT'S A
GREAT QUESTION.

00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.433
>> THAT'S A
GREAT QUESTION.

00:33:49.533 --> 00:33:50.566
IT'S REALLY SIMPLE.


00:33:50.666 --> 00:33:53.500
LIKE ONE LOOKS LIKE
JESUS AND ONE DOESN'T.

00:33:53.600 --> 00:33:56.866
AND JESUS IS THE PERFECT
PICTURE OF MASCULINITY.

00:33:56.966 --> 00:33:59.500
SO IF WE HAD A WHOLE BUNCH
OF MEN THAT COULD WORK TO

00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:02.766
WALK IN CHRIST'S STRENGTH
TO LOOK LIKE JESUS,

00:34:02.866 --> 00:34:06.200
WHO HAD RIGHTEOUS ANGER, I'M
SURE HAD AN INCREDIBLE

00:34:06.300 --> 00:34:08.200
SENSE OF HUMOR.


00:34:08.300 --> 00:34:09.199
>> HE WAS FUNNY.


00:34:09.299 --> 00:34:10.233
>> RIGHT.


00:34:10.333 --> 00:34:11.133
I MEAN, LIKE --


00:34:11.233 --> 00:34:12.066
>> AND HE WAS A BEAST.


00:34:12.166 --> 00:34:13.399
I MEAN, HE WAS
A CARPENTER.

00:34:13.499 --> 00:34:14.833
SO THAT'S LIKE STRONG.


00:34:14.933 --> 00:34:16.266
THOSE ARE STRONG HUMANS.


00:34:16.366 --> 00:34:18.099
LIKE, HE JUST FASTED
FOR 40 DAYS.

00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:19.733
>> YEAH, THAT'S NUTS.


00:34:19.833 --> 00:34:20.633
I STRUGGLE WITH THREE.


00:34:20.733 --> 00:34:22.099
>> YEAH.


00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:23.933
>> 72 HOURS IS BRUTAL.


00:34:24.033 --> 00:34:25.633
>> 72 HOURS IS LONG, DUDE.


00:34:25.733 --> 00:34:26.699
>> IT'S LONG.


00:34:26.799 --> 00:34:28.700
AND HE JUST, YOU KNOW,
HE JUST GOES 40 AND THEN

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.066
COMBATS WITH SATAN
AT THE END OF IT.

00:34:31.166 --> 00:34:32.266
AND, YOU KNOW,
I MEAN JUST --

00:34:32.366 --> 00:34:33.133
>> POWERFUL.


00:34:33.233 --> 00:34:34.299
>> YEAH.


00:34:34.399 --> 00:34:36.599
SO THAT IS THE PICTURE OF,
LIKE YOU HEAR GUYS LIKE

00:34:36.699 --> 00:34:38.866
JOCKO WILLINK, WHO I LOVE,
I LOVE HIS PODCAST

00:34:38.966 --> 00:34:42.832
AND TALK ABOUT WHAT
MASCULINITY IS.

00:34:42.932 --> 00:34:46.099
BUT IF YOU LEAVE JESUS OUT
OF THAT, YOU ALWAYS ARE

00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.099
FALLING INTO A CATEGORY OF
TRYING TO PROVE YOURSELF.

00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.133
AND JESUS, WHEN YOU WALK
WITH JESUS AS A MAN,

00:34:52.233 --> 00:34:53.966
IT'S NOT HAVING TO
PROVE YOURSELF.

00:34:54.066 --> 00:34:57.366
IT'S BEING ABLE TO SIT
METAPHORICALLY, JUST NAKED

00:34:57.466 --> 00:34:59.833
WITH HIM AND HIM SAYING,
YOU'RE MY SON.

00:34:59.933 --> 00:35:03.166
LIKE YOU ARE ACCEPTED AND LOVED
JUST AS YOU ARE.

00:35:03.266 --> 00:35:06.866
SO YOU WORK FROM A PLACE
OF ACCEPTANCE WHERE

00:35:06.966 --> 00:35:08.200
THE WORLD MASCULINITY, IT SAYS


00:35:08.300 --> 00:35:10.966
YOU NEED TO DO
THIS TO BE MASCULINE.

00:35:11.066 --> 00:35:14.099
AND GOOD GRIEF,
THAT'S BRUTAL.

00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.366
BECAUSE THE MOMENT YOU
OPEN UP SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S

00:35:16.466 --> 00:35:17.866
LIKE YOU HAVE ANDREW TATE
TELLING YOU YOU HAVE TO

00:35:17.966 --> 00:35:20.799
SLEEP WITH A THOUSAND
WOMEN TO BE LIKE A TRUE MAN.

00:35:20.899 --> 00:35:23.166
OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN
OPEN IT UP REALLY FAST.

00:35:23.266 --> 00:35:26.433
I'M A U.S. -- I WAS AN AIR
CREWMAN, NAVY VETERAN,

00:35:26.533 --> 00:35:27.433
BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN


00:35:27.533 --> 00:35:28.666
YOU OPEN IT UP AND
IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE ALL

00:35:28.766 --> 00:35:30.199
THESE FORMER NAVY SEALS
GOING THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS.

00:35:30.299 --> 00:35:31.333
AND IF YOU WANT TO BE A
MAN, YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH

00:35:31.433 --> 00:35:35.699
THIS 50-HOUR CRUCIBLE,
AND ALL THOSE ARE GOOD.

00:35:35.799 --> 00:35:37.199
LIKE, I HAVE A LOT OF
FRIENDS THAT ARE THAT,

00:35:37.299 --> 00:35:39.200
THAT PUT THOSE ON.


00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:42.266
BUT IF YOU HAVE TO WORK
TO PROVE YOURSELF AND IF

00:35:42.366 --> 00:35:44.699
YOU'RE A MAN LISTENING,
LIKE IF YOU'RE WORKING TO

00:35:44.799 --> 00:35:48.333
PROVE YOURSELF, THAT'S
NOT FROM GOD'S KINGDOM.

00:35:48.433 --> 00:35:49.799
>> YEAH.


00:35:49.899 --> 00:35:52.400
>> HIS KINGDOM
IS SO FREEING OF I AM,

00:35:52.500 --> 00:35:54.966
THEREFORE I DO.


00:35:55.066 --> 00:35:58.233
IT'S NOT WHAT I DO IS
THEREFORE WHO I AM.

00:35:58.333 --> 00:36:02.000
AND, MAN, IT'S SO FREEING
WHEN IT'S LIKE MY DAD

00:36:02.100 --> 00:36:06.432
LOVES ME AND HE CREATED
ME AND HE'S PROUD OF ME.

00:36:06.532 --> 00:36:07.699
OKAY, COOL.


00:36:07.799 --> 00:36:09.433
LET'S GO TAKE THAT HILL.


00:36:09.533 --> 00:36:12.800
LIKE, LET'S
LET'S GO DO WHAT JESUS

00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:16.799
IN 1 JOHN 3:8,
JESUS CAME TO DESTROY

00:36:16.899 --> 00:36:18.432
THE WORK OF THE ENEMY.


00:36:18.532 --> 00:36:19.566
THAT'S COOL.


00:36:19.666 --> 00:36:20.766
LET'S DO THAT.


00:36:20.866 --> 00:36:22.432
BUT LET'S NOT DO IT LIKE,


00:36:22.532 --> 00:36:23.899
I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO IMPRESS
YOU IN THE PROCESS.

00:36:23.999 --> 00:36:26.866
I'M GOING TO DO IT FROM
BROTHERHOOD AND FROM MY

00:36:26.966 --> 00:36:28.432
ACCEPTANCE WITH CHRIST.


00:36:28.532 --> 00:36:29.566
I'M GOING TO FAIL.


00:36:29.666 --> 00:36:30.866
I'M GOING TO SAY THINGS
YOU DON'T LIKE, AND I'M

00:36:30.966 --> 00:36:32.833
GOING TO HAVE TO APOLOGIZE
AND LIKE, I'M GONNA, I'M

00:36:32.933 --> 00:36:35.100
GONNA GET SHORT AND I'M
GONNA, YOU KNOW, LIKE --

00:36:35.200 --> 00:36:37.433
BUT IF WE ARE WORKING IN
CHRIST TOGETHER, YOU'RE

00:36:37.533 --> 00:36:39.166
GOING TO KNOW
THAT ALREADY.

00:36:39.266 --> 00:36:40.899
HEY, BRO, I'M SORRY,
I SCREWED UP.

00:36:40.999 --> 00:36:41.932
THAT'S FINE.


00:36:42.032 --> 00:36:42.899
DON'T DO IT AGAIN.


00:36:42.999 --> 00:36:45.066
LIKE, DON'T BE STUPID,
BUT THAT'S FINE.

00:36:45.166 --> 00:36:46.300
LET'S KEEP GOING.


00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:47.300
>> YEAH.


00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.833
AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S
INTERESTING IS THIS,

00:36:49.933 --> 00:36:53.699
IF MEN COULD EMBRACE THAT
IDENTITY OF SONSHIP AND

00:36:53.799 --> 00:36:55.799
ACCEPTANCE IN JESUS, THEN
THEY WOULD BE SO MUCH

00:36:55.866 --> 00:36:58.566
HEALTHIER EMOTIONALLY AND
THEY COULD GO OUT IN THAT

00:36:58.666 --> 00:37:00.599
MASCULINITY, BUT HAVE THAT
BALANCE OF BEING GROUNDED

00:37:00.699 --> 00:37:03.133
IN HIM AND EVEN TALKING
ABOUT IDENTITY,

00:37:03.233 --> 00:37:05.100
WHEN JESUS WAS TEMPTED IN
THE WILDERNESS,

00:37:05.200 --> 00:37:06.799
IT WAS OVER HIS IDENTITY.


00:37:06.899 --> 00:37:08.666
IT'S LIKE IF YOU REALLY
ARE -- THE DEVIL IS TRYING

00:37:08.766 --> 00:37:10.333
TO GET HIM TO
PROVE HIMSELF.

00:37:10.433 --> 00:37:11.400
AND HE WAS LIKE, I'M NOT
FALLING INTO

00:37:11.500 --> 00:37:13.233
THIS TRAP, YOU KNOW.


00:37:13.333 --> 00:37:15.200
HE KNEW WHO HE WAS.


00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:16.200
>> YEAH.


00:37:16.300 --> 00:37:17.333
>> YOU KNOW WHAT'S
INTERESTING, CODY, IS

00:37:17.433 --> 00:37:18.766
LIKE, EVEN LISTENING TO
YOUR TESTIMONY, LIKE, THE

00:37:18.866 --> 00:37:20.600
THING THAT I'VE PICKED UP
IS THAT THERE WAS A REAL

00:37:20.700 --> 00:37:24.166
SENSE OF WANTING IDENTITY
AND PURPOSE, AND YOU

00:37:24.266 --> 00:37:27.032
FINDING THAT FINALLY,
AFTER KIND OF TRAVELING,

00:37:27.132 --> 00:37:28.399
AND FULFILLMENT, GOING
DOWN ALL THESE DIFFERENT

00:37:28.499 --> 00:37:31.032
ROADS, YOU FOUND AND YOU
KEEP SPEAKING ABOUT

00:37:31.132 --> 00:37:34.666
IDENTITY IN HIM AND
ACCEPTANCE IN HIM.

00:37:34.766 --> 00:37:37.566
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO
UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE A

00:37:37.666 --> 00:37:40.266
CHILD OF GOD AND HAVE THAT
RELATIONSHIP WHERE YOU CAN

00:37:40.366 --> 00:37:43.099
NOT ONLY BE VULNERABLE
WITH THE LORD, BUT HAVE

00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:44.899
THAT UNCONDITIONAL LOVE?


00:37:44.999 --> 00:37:47.366
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S
EVERYTHING AND I'VE SEEN IT.

00:37:47.466 --> 00:37:48.533
SO I WAS ON THE
PROFESSIONAL SPEAKING

00:37:48.633 --> 00:37:50.199
CIRCUIT, AND I CAN TELL
YOU NAMES THAT

00:37:50.299 --> 00:37:51.999
YOU CAN GOOGLE, THAT PEOPLE
THAT ARE IN JAIL

00:37:52.099 --> 00:37:53.166
THE REST OF THEIR LIVES,


00:37:53.266 --> 00:37:56.499
ARE FALLING TO SEX AND
MEETING UP WITH YOUNG KIDS.

00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:58.633
AND I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE
IN PROFESSIONAL MINISTRY.

00:37:58.733 --> 00:38:00.833
YOU SEE SATAN
DESTROY THESE LIVES.

00:38:00.933 --> 00:38:04.099
GUYS I KNEW PERSONALLY
WOULD SPEAK ON THE CIRCUIT WITH,

00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:06.566
HAVING AFFAIRS WITH MULTIPLE
WOMEN IN MULTIPLE CITIES

00:38:06.666 --> 00:38:08.866
WHILE WE'RE SHARING
THE SAME HOTEL ROOM AND

00:38:08.966 --> 00:38:11.433
LIKE GOING DOWN TO THE
LOBBY AND HOOKING UP.

00:38:11.533 --> 00:38:14.900
AND YOU SEE IF THIS --
THIS IS THE HARDEST

00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:16.933
THING IN THE WORLD TO SEE
WHERE CHRISTIANITY,

00:38:17.033 --> 00:38:19.333
BEING A GOOD CHRISTIAN,
BECOMES YOUR STANDARD OF

00:38:19.433 --> 00:38:23.266
ACCEPTANCE AND NOT WHO YOU
ARE IN CHRIST,

00:38:23.366 --> 00:38:24.433
THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE
CONSTANTLY,

00:38:24.533 --> 00:38:25.499
RATHER THAN TRYING TO
PROVE YOURSELF,

00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:27.566
YOU'RE GOING TO BE
HIDING THINGS

00:38:27.666 --> 00:38:29.499
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO
THINK THAT THIS STANDARD

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.466
OF CHRISTIANITY IS WHAT
YOU EXPECT ME TO BE.

00:38:32.566 --> 00:38:36.066
AND MAN, IF YOU EXPECT
PERFECTION OUT OF ME,

00:38:36.166 --> 00:38:37.133
I'M GOING TO LET YOU DOWN.


00:38:37.233 --> 00:38:38.966
BUT I'M NOT GOING
TO TELL YOU.

00:38:39.066 --> 00:38:40.599
IT'S GOING TO CAUSE
SHAME IN ME,

00:38:40.699 --> 00:38:42.166
AND YOU'RE
GOING TO THINK LIKE, OH.

00:38:42.266 --> 00:38:44.966
AND I THINK ONE OF THE
WORST THINGS LIKE THAT

00:38:45.066 --> 00:38:49.166
GUYS CAN DO IS FIND
IDENTITY IN BEING LIKE

00:38:49.266 --> 00:38:50.566
WITHOUT SIN, RIGHT?


00:38:50.666 --> 00:38:51.666
>> THAT'S SO TRUE.


00:38:51.766 --> 00:38:52.433
I'M SORRY.


00:38:52.533 --> 00:38:53.832
THAT'S JUST SO
GOOD TO HEAR.

00:38:53.932 --> 00:38:54.833
>> I'VE SEEN THAT.


00:38:54.933 --> 00:38:57.366
AND THAT IS A BIG
OPENING TO TROUBLE.

00:38:57.466 --> 00:38:58.666
>> IT'S A BIG
OPENING TO TROUBLE.

00:38:58.766 --> 00:39:00.366
SO WHEN YOU HEAR
THAT AND YOU SEE THAT

00:39:00.466 --> 00:39:02.866
YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'S SO
SCARY BECAUSE MY IDENTITY

00:39:02.966 --> 00:39:08.299
IS A SON OF GOD, WHO LIKE,
WHEN THAT IS --

00:39:08.399 --> 00:39:12.466
I WROTE A DEVOTIONAL AND IT'S I
ACTUALLY NEVER WROTE IT TO

00:39:12.566 --> 00:39:14.033
BE A DEVOTIONAL, WHICH
WAS REALLY FASCINATING.

00:39:14.133 --> 00:39:15.933
YEAH,<i>SOULCON 365.</i>


00:39:16.033 --> 00:39:17.832
IT'S LIKE<i>JESUS CALLING,
</i> BUT FOR WARRIORS.

00:39:17.932 --> 00:39:18.733
>> YEAH. FOR YOU.


00:39:18.833 --> 00:39:21.099
>> BUT IT'S SO COOL


00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:22.899
BECAUSE I NEVER
WROTE IT TO BE A BOOK.

00:39:22.999 --> 00:39:26.166
AND IF YOU WOULD HAVE TOLD
ME, LIKE, HEY, WRITE A 300 --

00:39:26.266 --> 00:39:27.599
IT'S ACTUALLY 366
DAYS IN IT, BUT IT'S NOT

00:39:27.699 --> 00:39:29.300
AS MARKETABLE WITH 366 DAYS.


00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.200
>> YEAH.


00:39:31.300 --> 00:39:33.133
>> BUT I WOULD
NEVER WANT TO DO IT.

00:39:33.233 --> 00:39:35.233
BUT I WROTE IT TO HELP ME
THROUGH A SEASON OF DEPRESSION

00:39:35.333 --> 00:39:36.699
THAT I WENT THROUGH.


00:39:36.799 --> 00:39:38.733
IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN AND A
HALF MONTHS OF LIKE,

00:39:38.833 --> 00:39:39.933
SUPER STRONG DEPRESSION.


00:39:40.033 --> 00:39:41.699
>> WHEN WAS
THAT IN YOUR LIFE?

00:39:41.799 --> 00:39:42.766
>> OH, A YEAR AGO.


00:39:42.866 --> 00:39:43.933
>> WOW.


00:39:44.033 --> 00:39:46.199
>> SO LIKE FOLLOWING THE
LORD AND ALL OF A SUDDEN --

00:39:46.299 --> 00:39:47.032
>> DID IT JUST COME
OUT OF NOWHERE?

00:39:47.132 --> 00:39:48.700
>> NOWHERE.


00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:49.799
AND IT WAS WILD.


00:39:49.899 --> 00:39:52.732
IT WAS THIS NEW THORN
IN MY FLESH THAT I HAD.

00:39:52.832 --> 00:39:54.133
>> HOW DID YOU NAVIGATE THAT?


00:39:54.233 --> 00:39:54.833
>> WHOA.


00:39:54.933 --> 00:39:55.933
IT WAS REALLY TOUGH.


00:39:56.033 --> 00:39:57.233
AND IT WAS REALLY TOUGH,
WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN I

00:39:57.333 --> 00:40:00.400
WAS A GUY THAT WAS DEALING
WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

00:40:00.500 --> 00:40:03.033
>> DID YOU FEEL HOPELESS, LIKE
THAT KIND OF DEPRESSION?

00:40:03.133 --> 00:40:04.066
>> YEAH.


00:40:04.166 --> 00:40:05.700
WELL, IT FELT LIKE I WAS
ON A TREADMILL GOING

00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.099
TEN MILES AN HOUR, AND THERE
WAS NO HOPE

00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:10.499
OF GETTING OFF OF IT.


00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:12.999
AND NOBODY WAS LIKE,
PAYING ATTENTION TO ME IN IT.

00:40:13.099 --> 00:40:14.266
>> OH, NO.


00:40:14.366 --> 00:40:16.333
>> AND IT WAS LIKE I WAS
COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE.

00:40:16.433 --> 00:40:19.100
BUT EVEN THOUGH, LIKE --


00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:21.566
AND IT'S SO TRUE, IT
BREAKS YOUR HEART WHEN YOU

00:40:21.666 --> 00:40:23.566
TALK TO ANOTHER GUY AND BE
LIKE, HEY, I'M ACTUALLY

00:40:23.666 --> 00:40:24.899
REALLY STRUGGLING
WITH DEPRESSION.

00:40:24.999 --> 00:40:26.100
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.


00:40:26.200 --> 00:40:28.232
MOST GUYS DON'T KNOW
HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.

00:40:28.332 --> 00:40:30.266
THEY'RE LIKE, OH, ALL
RIGHT, MAN, I'LL SEE YOU

00:40:30.366 --> 00:40:32.633
AT SMALL GROUP
THIS WEEKEND.

00:40:32.733 --> 00:40:33.466
>> YEAH.


00:40:33.566 --> 00:40:34.066
>> IT'S LIKE,
PICKLEBALL LATER?

00:40:34.166 --> 00:40:35.532
>> YEAH.


00:40:35.632 --> 00:40:36.632
>> IT'S LIKE, OH.


00:40:36.732 --> 00:40:38.399
OR THEY DO WHAT JOB'S
FRIENDS DID AND THEY'RE

00:40:38.499 --> 00:40:40.133
LIKE, YOU MUST BE
DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

00:40:40.233 --> 00:40:41.200
LIKE YOU MUST --


00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:42.866
OH, CODY FELL BACK
INTO PORNOGRAPHY.

00:40:42.966 --> 00:40:43.966
IT'S GOT HIM.


00:40:44.066 --> 00:40:45.966
AND PEOPLE LOVE TO GOSSIP
ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE

00:40:46.066 --> 00:40:47.366
HONEST AND BOLD.


00:40:47.466 --> 00:40:49.966
>> THEN THAT DISCOURAGES YOU
FROM BEING HONEST AND BOLD?

00:40:50.066 --> 00:40:51.100
>> IT DOES.


00:40:51.200 --> 00:40:52.400
AND THANKFULLY, I'M
JUST SO STUPID

00:40:52.500 --> 00:40:53.800
I DON'T CARE ENOUGH.


00:40:53.900 --> 00:40:55.132
SO IT'S REALLY A
WEIRD THING OF LIKE,

00:40:55.232 --> 00:40:58.133
SO I WOULD LITERALLY JUST
SIT WITH THE PAIN

00:40:58.233 --> 00:41:00.399
AND ASK DAD TO HEAL IT.


00:41:00.499 --> 00:41:01.432
>> OH, THAT'S GOOD, THOUGH.


00:41:01.532 --> 00:41:03.066
THAT'S A -- THAT'S HOW
YOU DEAL WITH IT.

00:41:03.166 --> 00:41:04.232
>> YEAH.


00:41:04.332 --> 00:41:06.199
AND IT WAS REALLY -- SO THIS
BOOK COMES FROM THAT.

00:41:06.299 --> 00:41:08.500
I ACTUALLY HAD TO LEARN
HOW TO HEAR FROM GOD WHEN

00:41:08.600 --> 00:41:10.033
HE WASN'T SPEAKING TO ME.


00:41:10.133 --> 00:41:12.333
I COULD FEEL HIS PRESENCE,
BUT I DIDN'T HEAR HIM.

00:41:12.433 --> 00:41:14.733
>> THAT'S POWERFUL.


00:41:14.833 --> 00:41:16.100
>> AND SO WHAT THE LORD
TOLD ME, AND THIS

00:41:16.200 --> 00:41:19.733
IS REALLY AN INTERESTING
THING FOR ME, IS THAT I

00:41:19.833 --> 00:41:21.099
SAW THE HUMOR IN IT.


00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:22.399
I LOVE THE LORD'S
CONVERSATION.

00:41:22.499 --> 00:41:24.566
HE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH
ME ABOUT PAUL, AND HOW MUCH

00:41:24.666 --> 00:41:26.466
PAUL LIKED TO SPEAK,
AND SO MUCH SO,

00:41:26.566 --> 00:41:29.666
A KID FELL OUT OF THE
WINDOW AND DIED, AND HE

00:41:29.766 --> 00:41:30.699
BROUGHT HIM BACK TO LIFE,


00:41:30.799 --> 00:41:32.799
AND PAUL KEPT TEACHING.


00:41:32.899 --> 00:41:35.133
AND THE LORD ASKED ME, DO
YOU THINK WE'D HAVE THE

00:41:35.233 --> 00:41:37.366
NEW TESTAMENT IF PAUL
WASN'T IN PRISON?

00:41:37.466 --> 00:41:40.033
I WAS LIKE, THAT'S A
REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION.

00:41:40.133 --> 00:41:41.899
LIKE, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO
ANSWER THIS THEOLOGICALLY?

00:41:41.999 --> 00:41:43.899
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN
DO ALL THINGS, RIGHT.

00:41:43.999 --> 00:41:45.999
BUT LIKE, I FELT LIKE IT
WAS THE LORD ASKING THAT

00:41:46.099 --> 00:41:49.166
TO SAY, PROBABLY NOT LIKE
ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF IT.

00:41:49.266 --> 00:41:50.700
>> YEAH.


00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:51.633
>> WHAT WOULD
PAUL HAVE DONE?

00:41:51.733 --> 00:41:53.532
HE WOULD HAVE SPOKE.


00:41:53.632 --> 00:41:55.333
>> HE WAS TEACHING
AND TRAVELING.

00:41:55.433 --> 00:41:56.932
>> AND POURING INTO
LIKE, THE PEOPLE.

00:41:57.032 --> 00:41:59.766
>> AND THE LORD TAUGHT ME
IN THAT TIME HOW TO DEAL

00:41:59.866 --> 00:42:03.432
WITH SEASONS OF
IMPRISONMENT OF YOUR SOUL,

00:42:03.532 --> 00:42:06.133
WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT
JUST LIKE, OH, IT CHANGED.

00:42:06.233 --> 00:42:08.533
IT CHANGED MY LIFE TO SAY
ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GO

00:42:08.633 --> 00:42:10.499
FROM LIKE, ROCKING AND
ROLLING AND IT STILL LOOKS

00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:11.733
LIKE YOU'RE ROCKING AND
ROLLING ON THE OUTSIDE,

00:42:11.833 --> 00:42:13.399
BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE
IMPRISONMENT OF YOUR SOUL

00:42:13.499 --> 00:42:17.233
HAPPENS WITH A NEW
THORN IN YOUR FLESH.

00:42:17.333 --> 00:42:19.633
SO I HAD TO WRITE AND I
WAS LIKE, WHAT DOES A MAN

00:42:19.733 --> 00:42:20.833
NEED TO KNOW IN THIS?


00:42:20.933 --> 00:42:22.333
LIKE, WHAT DO I NEED
TO KNOW IN THIS?

00:42:22.433 --> 00:42:23.300
>> RIGHT.


00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:24.233
YOU'RE DOING IT
FOR YOURSELF.

00:42:24.333 --> 00:42:25.133
>> YEAH.


00:42:25.233 --> 00:42:27.600
AND I HAVE 700, OVER
700 DEVOTIONALS.

00:42:27.700 --> 00:42:30.132
I WAS WRITING THEM
ON MY PHONE TO MYSELF.

00:42:30.232 --> 00:42:31.833
>> I JUST READ TODAY'S AND
IT ALREADY SPOKE TO ME,

00:42:31.933 --> 00:42:33.433
SO THAT WAS SO COOL.


00:42:33.533 --> 00:42:35.933
>> OSWALD CHAMBERS.
HE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES.

00:42:36.033 --> 00:42:37.400
>> I'D SAY, HOW'D YOU KNOW,
BUT YOU WROTE IT.

00:42:37.500 --> 00:42:38.733
>> YEAH.


00:42:38.833 --> 00:42:40.299
SO, BUT IT'S SO COOL
BECAUSE I'M LIKE,

00:42:40.399 --> 00:42:42.533
I LOVE QUOTES, BUT IT
STARTS WITH GOD

00:42:42.633 --> 00:42:44.100
TALKING TO HIS SON.


00:42:44.200 --> 00:42:45.800
SO I WAS PROPHETICALLY
WRITING TO MYSELF AND I'D

00:42:45.900 --> 00:42:47.632
ACTUALLY SAY IT OUT LOUD.


00:42:47.732 --> 00:42:49.532
AND SO I'D WRITE THROUGH
SOME OF THESE DEVOTIONALS

00:42:49.632 --> 00:42:51.266
AS GOD TALKING
TO ME, HIS SON.

00:42:51.366 --> 00:42:53.533
AND THEN FROM THAT,
THERE'S A SCRIPTURE

00:42:53.633 --> 00:42:54.933
AND THERE'S A
CHALLENGE, AND THEN A

00:42:55.033 --> 00:42:56.066
WARRIOR PRAYER.


00:42:56.166 --> 00:42:57.799
I'D HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF,
HEY, YOU'RE A WARRIOR.

00:42:57.899 --> 00:42:59.566
YOU DO WHAT'S RIGHT NO
MATTER HOW YOU FEEL.

00:42:59.666 --> 00:43:00.866
SO GET OUT AND GO DO IT.


00:43:00.966 --> 00:43:03.033
>> KIND OF LIKE TELLING
YOURSELF TO KIND OF KEEP

00:43:03.133 --> 00:43:06.233
MOVING FORWARD REGARDLESS
OF HOW YOU FEEL.

00:43:06.333 --> 00:43:07.999
>> BUT YOU'RE NOT A
WARRIOR IN GOD'S PRESENCE.

00:43:08.099 --> 00:43:09.500
THIS IS THE THING THAT I
HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF

00:43:09.600 --> 00:43:10.666
ALL THE TIME.


00:43:10.766 --> 00:43:13.100
WHEN YOU CAN GO INTO GOD'S
PRESENCE ON THIS EARTH --

00:43:13.200 --> 00:43:15.400
THE STUDY OF GOD'S
ARMOR IS FASCINATING.

00:43:15.500 --> 00:43:17.600
IN GOD'S PRESENCE, WE
DON'T NEED ARMOR,

00:43:17.700 --> 00:43:19.832
AND I THINK A LOT OF
MEN FORGET THAT.

00:43:19.932 --> 00:43:23.099
WE CAN SIT WITH HIM
NAKED AS POSSIBLE,

00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:24.499
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE


00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.199
ANYTHING TO LIKE FEAR WITH HIM.


00:43:27.299 --> 00:43:29.466
WE HAVE THE HOLY
REVERENCE OF FEAR OF GOD.

00:43:29.566 --> 00:43:32.466
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
TO BE SCARED OF WITH DAD.

00:43:32.566 --> 00:43:34.599
WE CAN SIT WITH HIM AS
VULNERABLE AS POSSIBLE.

00:43:34.699 --> 00:43:37.633
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL
OF THIS ARMOR TO GO FIGHT SATAN.

00:43:37.733 --> 00:43:38.799
WE CAN SIT WITH HIM.


00:43:38.899 --> 00:43:40.233
AND THAT'S WHAT CHANGED MY
LIFE, IS WHEN I COULD SIT

00:43:40.333 --> 00:43:44.166
WITH DAD AS SON, AND THEN
MY PURPOSE ON THIS,

00:43:44.266 --> 00:43:46.633
ON THIS EARTH IS TO BE A
WARRIOR FOR HIS KINGDOM,

00:43:46.733 --> 00:43:48.199
BUT NOT IN HIS PRESENCE.


00:43:48.299 --> 00:43:49.833
BE A WARRIOR
IN HIS KINGDOM.

00:43:49.933 --> 00:43:52.566
SO I COULD SIT THERE AND I
COULD CRY LIKE UGLY CRY OF

00:43:52.666 --> 00:43:53.933
LIKE THIS HURT, MAN.


00:43:54.033 --> 00:43:56.399
LIKE THIS HURT MY
FEELINGS.

00:43:56.499 --> 00:43:57.732
AND I'M ALL OF A SUDDEN
I'M LIKE A DUDE

00:43:57.832 --> 00:43:58.699
THAT DOESN'T CRY,


00:43:58.799 --> 00:43:59.933
THAT IS NOW GOING
THROUGH THIS.

00:44:00.033 --> 00:44:01.966
I CRY ALL THE TIME.


00:44:02.066 --> 00:44:03.199
LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED?


00:44:03.299 --> 00:44:05.333
BUT I CAN SIT WITH DAD AND
HE'S NOT GOING TO JUDGE ME.

00:44:05.433 --> 00:44:09.099
AND THEN THERE'S A MOMENT
WHERE TIME WITH DAD IS OVER.

00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:10.700
NOW YOU STILL HAVE TO BE
A MAN AND GO TAKE CARE OF

00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:12.632
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.


00:44:12.732 --> 00:44:14.632
>> WAS THERE A MOMENT IN
TIME WHERE YOU FELT LIKE

00:44:14.732 --> 00:44:16.200
THE DEPRESSION BROKE OFF
OR LIFTED,

00:44:16.300 --> 00:44:18.766
OR WAS IT JUST OVER TIME?


00:44:18.866 --> 00:44:19.466
>> GRADUAL?


00:44:19.566 --> 00:44:20.566
>> YEAH.


00:44:20.666 --> 00:44:21.432
THROUGH THE PROCESS OF
REFINEMENT THE LORD WAS

00:44:21.532 --> 00:44:23.200
DOING WITH YOU,
IT JUST FADED.

00:44:23.300 --> 00:44:24.333
>> YEAH.


00:44:24.433 --> 00:44:26.699
IT'S LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN
IT KIND OF WENT AWAY, BUT

00:44:26.799 --> 00:44:27.866
IT WILL COME BACK.


00:44:27.966 --> 00:44:30.366
BUT I'M TELLING YOU, AS AN
ACTOR, IT MAKES ME LIKE

00:44:30.466 --> 00:44:32.433
TEN TIMES MORE POWERFUL
AS AN ACTOR

00:44:32.533 --> 00:44:34.200
BECAUSE I CAN CONNECT.


00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:34.566
>> YOU CAN CONNECT TO IT.


00:44:34.666 --> 00:44:35.699
>> YEAH.


00:44:35.799 --> 00:44:37.133
AND, MAN, LIKE, I DIDN'T
USED TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT

00:44:37.233 --> 00:44:40.733
WITH PEOPLE EMPATHETICALLY
THROUGH EMOTION, LIKE

00:44:40.833 --> 00:44:42.799
MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL
PAIN WITH THAT.

00:44:42.899 --> 00:44:45.532
AND NOW I CAN SIT AND
AN AUDITION AND, LIKE,

00:44:45.632 --> 00:44:47.099
CONNECT WITH THAT
CHARACTER AND JUST CRY

00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:48.400
ABOUT WHAT HE'S
FACING WITH.

00:44:48.500 --> 00:44:49.433
AND IT'S LIKE,
TOTAL ACTION.

00:44:49.533 --> 00:44:50.099
>> THAT'S POWERFUL.


00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:51.433
>> YEAH, IT'S POWERFUL.


00:44:51.533 --> 00:44:53.233
LIKE, SO A REALLY COOL


00:44:53.333 --> 00:44:55.033
PART OF BEING AN ACTOR.


00:44:55.133 --> 00:44:58.100
I WROTE MY FIRST SCRIPT,
WHICH GOD HAS PUT ON MY HEART.

00:44:58.200 --> 00:44:59.733
I'M GOING TO SHOOT THIS
THIS NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS

00:44:59.833 --> 00:45:01.099
LIKE CRAZY ACTION MOVIE.


00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.032
IT'S REALLY COOL.


00:45:03.132 --> 00:45:04.433
BUT I WROTE THIS
SCRIPT AS A FIRST.

00:45:04.533 --> 00:45:06.499
I'VE WRITTEN EIGHT BOOKS,
I'VE NEVER WRITTEN A SCRIPT,

00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:08.633
AND THE LORD
HELPED ME UNDERSTAND

00:45:08.733 --> 00:45:11.900
THROUGH AN ENTIRE SCRIPT,
WHICH IS REALLY FUN,

00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.666
EVERYTHING IN THAT
SCRIPT HAS A PURPOSE.

00:45:15.766 --> 00:45:17.366
EVERY COFFEE CUP
HAS A PURPOSE.

00:45:17.466 --> 00:45:19.766
EVERYTHING IN EVERY SCENE
HAS A PURPOSE TO TELL THE

00:45:19.866 --> 00:45:22.766
STORY THAT THE
WRITER WANTS

00:45:22.866 --> 00:45:25.933
THE PERSON WATCHING THE
MOVIE TO EMOTIONALLY EXPERIENCE.

00:45:26.033 --> 00:45:27.900
LIKE<i>300
</i> CHANGED MY LIFE.

00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.099
I WAS ACTIVE DUTY
IN THE MILITARY.

00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:30.933
WE WATCHED THAT
THING ON A DEPLOYMENT.

00:45:31.033 --> 00:45:33.032
>> WHAT MOVIE -- THAT
CHANGED HIS LIFE.

00:45:33.132 --> 00:45:35.366
EVERYONE'S LIKE,
I WANT TO BE THAT.

00:45:35.466 --> 00:45:36.633
>> MY GOSH, IT
WAS SO CRAZY.

00:45:36.733 --> 00:45:37.766
SO LIKE, WE WERE DEPLOYED.


00:45:37.866 --> 00:45:40.233
WE WENT AND SAW THAT
AND WE ENDED UP

00:45:40.333 --> 00:45:42.833
IN THE GYM AT 10:30 P.M.
AFTER WATCHING IT.

00:45:42.933 --> 00:45:43.433
>> YEAH.


00:45:43.533 --> 00:45:44.599
>> AND WORKING OUT.


00:45:44.699 --> 00:45:48.533
AND IT'S LIKE, THAT WAS
LIKE THE PICTURE OF LIKE,

00:45:48.633 --> 00:45:49.966
I MEAN IT WAS REALLY COOL.


00:45:50.066 --> 00:45:52.032
BUT I WOULD SAY, LIKE
STORYTELLING IS ABOUT

00:45:52.132 --> 00:45:54.232
EMOTIONALLY IMPACTING
THE PERSON WATCHING IT.

00:45:54.332 --> 00:45:55.433
THAT'S WHAT
MOVIES ARE LIKE.

00:45:55.533 --> 00:45:57.566
I WANT TO IMPACT YOU
EMOTIONALLY TO MAKE A

00:45:57.666 --> 00:46:00.099
PHYSICAL CHANGE
IN YOUR LIFE.

00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.466
SO THE LORD TOLD ME,
ALLOWED ME TO SEE THAT

00:46:02.566 --> 00:46:04.832
WITH MAKING MOVIES AND
STORIES, AND TO MAKE ANY

00:46:04.932 --> 00:46:07.066
GREAT STORY, YOU HAVE
TO HAVE MOMENTS OF LIKE

00:46:07.166 --> 00:46:09.966
REALLY HARD AND REALLY
HARD PRESSING, WHERE IT

00:46:10.066 --> 00:46:12.499
SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE,
REALLY HIGH CONFLICT.

00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:14.766
IT FEELS LIKE THE WHEELS
ARE GOING TO FALL OFF.

00:46:14.866 --> 00:46:16.633
BUT TO EMOTIONALLY
CONNECT WITH HUMANS,

00:46:16.733 --> 00:46:18.033
AND THIS IS WHAT GOD HAS
ALLOWED ME TO SEE,

00:46:18.133 --> 00:46:20.566
TO EMOTIONALLY CONNECT WITH
PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO WALK

00:46:20.666 --> 00:46:22.899
THROUGH PAIN WITH THEM,
AND A CHARACTER HAS TO

00:46:22.999 --> 00:46:25.033
SHOW THAT PAIN ON FILM.


00:46:25.133 --> 00:46:27.099
BUT WRITING A SCRIPT
CHANGED MY LIFE

00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.733
WITH THAT TOO, OF
UNDERSTANDING, LIKE

00:46:30.833 --> 00:46:33.766
SCENE 34 ISN'T THE
END OF A MOVIE.

00:46:33.866 --> 00:46:37.699
TYPICALLY IT'S LIKE SCENE,
YOU KNOW, LIKE GET TO PAGE 100

00:46:37.799 --> 00:46:38.733
AND THE MOVIE'S OVER.


00:46:38.833 --> 00:46:40.433
BUT LIKE, JUST CONTINUE
WATCHING THE MOVIE.

00:46:40.533 --> 00:46:42.933
MOST MOVIES WOULD SUCK,
ESPECIALLY ACTING,

00:46:43.033 --> 00:46:43.933
ACTING, ACTION MOVIES,


00:46:44.033 --> 00:46:46.733
IF YOU STOP LIKE 15
MINUTES INTO IT.

00:46:46.833 --> 00:46:49.466
IT'S LIKE, OH, LIKE THE ROCKY
SERIES IS REALLY LAME

00:46:49.566 --> 00:46:50.699
IF YOU QUIT THERE.


00:46:50.799 --> 00:46:52.932
>> YEAH, YOU HAVE TO GO
ALL THE WAY THROUGH,

00:46:53.032 --> 00:46:55.199
WHICH I STILL HAVEN'T
SHOWN YOU FOUR AND FIVE.

00:46:55.299 --> 00:46:56.466
>> YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN
ME ANY OF THEM.

00:46:56.566 --> 00:46:57.066
>> YOU HAVEN'T
SEEN ANY OF THEM?

00:46:57.166 --> 00:46:57.933
>> NO.


00:46:58.033 --> 00:46:58.932
>> IT'S SO GOOD.


00:46:59.032 --> 00:46:59.966
IT'S PROBABLY
BECAUSE THERE'S --

00:47:00.066 --> 00:47:00.899
>> SUCH AN EDUCATION.


00:47:00.999 --> 00:47:01.533
>> THEY'RE SO SACRED TO ME.


00:47:01.633 --> 00:47:02.433
>> THEY'RE SO SACRED.


00:47:02.533 --> 00:47:03.232
MY KIDS HAVEN'T SEEN
THEM YET EITHER.

00:47:03.332 --> 00:47:04.033
>> YEAH, EXACTLY.


00:47:04.133 --> 00:47:05.466
IT'S LIKE YOU JUST --


00:47:05.566 --> 00:47:06.533
>> IT'S GOTTA BE THE
RIGHT MOMENT, RIGHT TIME.

00:47:06.633 --> 00:47:07.666
>> YEAH.


00:47:07.766 --> 00:47:08.732
WE'VE HAD KIDS --


00:47:08.832 --> 00:47:09.333
>> IF YOU'RE LIKE,
I DON'T LIKE IT,

00:47:09.433 --> 00:47:10.399
YOU RUINED OUR SOUL.


00:47:10.499 --> 00:47:11.799
>> YEAH, YEAH, I WOULD
BE BROKEN FOREVER IF YOU

00:47:11.899 --> 00:47:13.633
DIDN'T LIKE IT, BUT I
HONESTLY THINK YOU WOULD.

00:47:13.733 --> 00:47:14.466
YOU HAVE GOOD TASTE.


00:47:14.566 --> 00:47:15.300
>> THANKS.


00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:16.366
>> I WANTED TO ASK YOU --


00:47:16.466 --> 00:47:18.933
>> IT'S LIKE A HUMBLEBRAG.


00:47:19.033 --> 00:47:20.266
>> IT IS HUMBLEBRAG.


00:47:20.366 --> 00:47:21.699
YOU HAVE GREAT TASTE.


00:47:21.799 --> 00:47:23.500
>> THE BEST I'VE
EVER SEEN.

00:47:23.600 --> 00:47:25.366
>> WHEN DID YOU DECIDE
THAT ACTING WAS SOMETHING

00:47:25.466 --> 00:47:26.866
THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN?


00:47:26.966 --> 00:47:29.033
LIKE WHAT POINT
IN YOUR CAREER,

00:47:29.133 --> 00:47:30.033
YOU'RE IN THE MILITARY,


00:47:30.133 --> 00:47:31.899
I'M ASSUMING, WHEN YOU
MAKE THAT DECISION?

00:47:31.999 --> 00:47:34.132
>> NO. SO I GOT OUT OF THE
MILITARY AND I THOUGHT

00:47:34.232 --> 00:47:36.466
I KNEW WHAT MY CALLING WAS, AND
IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

00:47:36.566 --> 00:47:40.732
I TRY TO TELL EVERYBODY
AND I PLEAD WITH EVERYBODY

00:47:40.832 --> 00:47:45.366
THAT WHO YOU ARE IS LIKE --
COMPLETELY WON'T CHANGE

00:47:45.466 --> 00:47:46.266
IN YOUR LIFE.


00:47:46.366 --> 00:47:48.366
LIKE WHO CHRIST HAS
MADE ME IS A SON

00:47:48.466 --> 00:47:51.032
THAT'S ACCEPTED AND ADOPTED
INTO HIS FAMILY,

00:47:51.132 --> 00:47:53.333
HE'S NEVER GOING TO TAKE
MY ADOPTION AWAY FROM ME.

00:47:53.433 --> 00:47:56.032
LIKE I HAVE FRIENDS THAT
HAVE ADOPTED KIDS AND LIKE

00:47:56.132 --> 00:47:57.733
THEY DON'T, GO TO YOUR ROOM
OR ELSE YOU'RE GOING TO

00:47:57.833 --> 00:47:59.400
LOSE YOUR ADOPTION
IN THIS FAMILY.

00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:02.166
LIKE GOD DOESN'T
DO THAT TO US.

00:48:02.266 --> 00:48:05.199
AND IT SET ME FREE TO
SAY, OH, I CAN BE A SON,

00:48:05.299 --> 00:48:06.333
AND IT MAKES ME --


00:48:06.433 --> 00:48:09.633
WHEN I SCREW UP, I SPRINT
TO DAD TO SIT WITH HIM

00:48:09.733 --> 00:48:12.799
AND SAY, DAD, I
NEED YOUR HELP.

00:48:12.899 --> 00:48:15.000
I'M SORRY, LIKE I --
BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE AN

00:48:15.100 --> 00:48:18.900
EXPECTATION ON ME TO BE
PERFECT, YOU KNOW, LIKE,

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:20.866
HE'S LIKE, HEY,
BE HOLY, RIGHT?

00:48:20.966 --> 00:48:22.632
LIKE I'M HOLY, BUT
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE

00:48:22.732 --> 00:48:23.699
TOOLS TO DO THAT.


00:48:23.799 --> 00:48:25.066
AND I'M ALSO, YOU HAVE
JESUS, THE EMPATHETIC

00:48:25.166 --> 00:48:27.332
HIGH PRIEST, TO WALK
THROUGH YOU WITH THAT.

00:48:27.432 --> 00:48:30.599
I THINK THE MASCULINE
SOUL JUST COMES TO LIFE

00:48:30.699 --> 00:48:34.066
WHEN WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE
TO BE JESUS TO ANYBODY.

00:48:34.166 --> 00:48:36.332
I MEAN, LIKE, WE CAN BE
LIKE HIM AND SHOW THE LOVE

00:48:36.432 --> 00:48:37.899
OF HIM TO PEOPLE.


00:48:37.999 --> 00:48:39.933
BUT I'M STILL LIKE, AS A
CHRISTIAN, I'VE BEEN A

00:48:40.033 --> 00:48:42.166
CHRISTIAN SINCE I WAS 18,
ON FIRE FOR THE LORD.

00:48:42.266 --> 00:48:44.066
I'M STILL LEARNING
TO LIKE PEOPLE.

00:48:44.166 --> 00:48:45.433
I DON'T KNOW IF
I LOVE EVERYBODY.

00:48:45.533 --> 00:48:47.899
>> YEAH, SAME HERE.
I'M WITH YOU, BROTHER.

00:48:47.999 --> 00:48:50.066
>> I APPRECIATE THAT
VULNERABILITY, THOUGH.

00:48:50.166 --> 00:48:52.066
AND IT GOES BACK TO JUST
BEING VULNERABLE INSTEAD

00:48:52.166 --> 00:48:54.366
OF TRYING TO PUT ON SOME
KIND OF IMAGE THAT'S GOING

00:48:54.466 --> 00:48:56.800
TO END UP CAUSING
DAMAGE IN THE LONG RUN.

00:48:56.900 --> 00:48:58.633
ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO
HIT ON THAT I THINK IS

00:48:58.733 --> 00:49:01.099
REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THIS
IS WHAT COMES TO MIND

00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.866
FOR LIKE BIBLICAL
MASCULINITY IS MEEKNESS.

00:49:03.966 --> 00:49:06.532
I THINK ABOUT LIKE MOSES,
I THINK ABOUT JESUS,

00:49:06.632 --> 00:49:09.866
AND IT'S HAVING STRENGTH, BUT
IT'S STRENGTH THAT'S UNDER

00:49:09.966 --> 00:49:12.766
SUBMISSION TO GOD AND
CLOTHED IN HUMILITY.

00:49:12.866 --> 00:49:16.533
AND, YOU KNOW, STRENGTH
ISN'T JUST POPPING OFF OR,

00:49:16.633 --> 00:49:18.933
YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO A
FIGHT, BUT IT'S SAYING,

00:49:19.033 --> 00:49:21.533
LIKE, EVEN WHEN SOMEONE
WRONGS YOU, LIKE THINKING ABOUT

00:49:21.633 --> 00:49:23.199
HOW JESUS WAS
WRONGED, AND YET HE

00:49:23.299 --> 00:49:25.600
HUMBLED HIMSELF TO THE
POINT OF DEATH ON THE CROSS.

00:49:25.700 --> 00:49:26.833
>> YEAH.


00:49:26.933 --> 00:49:29.832
>> AND I THINK THAT REAL
BIBLICAL MASCULINITY

00:49:29.932 --> 00:49:33.033
IS NOT EMBRACING THAT
STRENGTH, BUT SUBMITTING

00:49:33.133 --> 00:49:35.100
THAT STRENGTH TO GOD.


00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:35.866
>> YEAH.


00:49:35.966 --> 00:49:37.600
WHICH IS SO COOL.


00:49:37.700 --> 00:49:38.766
AND I ANSWER BOTH
QUESTIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

00:49:38.866 --> 00:49:41.599
SO WHERE DID I, MY CALL
TO ACTING COME FROM?

00:49:41.699 --> 00:49:44.599
AND THAT MEEKNESS, IT'S
UNDERSTANDING LIKE THE

00:49:44.699 --> 00:49:47.999
WORD PICTURE OF MEEKNESS
IS THAT BRIDLED WAR HORSE,

00:49:48.099 --> 00:49:53.433
TO SAY LIKE, JESUS HAS THE
CONTROL OF US, A WAR HORSE,

00:49:53.533 --> 00:49:57.032
LIKE, BUT HE ALWAYS CAN
TURN IT ANYTIME HE WANTS TO.

00:49:57.132 --> 00:50:01.133
AND WHO WE ARE IN CHRIST
IS DAUGHTER AND SON, AND

00:50:01.233 --> 00:50:04.299
THAT SHOULD MEAN
EVERYTHING TO US ALWAYS.

00:50:04.399 --> 00:50:07.233
BUT WHAT HE CALLS US TO DO
IS GOING TO CHANGE, AND

00:50:07.333 --> 00:50:08.766
THERE'S GOING TO BE
DIFFERENT TIMES WHERE IT'S

00:50:08.866 --> 00:50:10.500
LIKE, SPEAKER, YOU'RE
GOING TO GO INTO

00:50:10.600 --> 00:50:11.399
THE CORPORATE WORLD.


00:50:11.499 --> 00:50:13.033
LIKE, FOR ME, I WAS, YOU
KNOW, TOP SECRET

00:50:13.133 --> 00:50:14.299
IN THE MILITARY.


00:50:14.399 --> 00:50:16.066
THEN I DID WORK IN THE
CORPORATE WORLD, AND I

00:50:16.166 --> 00:50:18.499
WAS, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE
WORLD AND FULL-TIME STUDENT

00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:19.899
AND FINISHED
THROUGH MY GRADUATE DEGREE

00:50:19.999 --> 00:50:23.166
AND WRITING A BOOK
AND TWO LITTLE KIDS.

00:50:23.266 --> 00:50:27.733
SO HE MET ME, AND I KIND
OF DEFIED THE ODDS

00:50:27.833 --> 00:50:28.933
OF IMPOSSIBLE.


00:50:29.033 --> 00:50:31.732
ALL MY BOOKS ARE SELF-PUBLISHED,
AND I HAD A BIG OFFER

00:50:31.832 --> 00:50:33.866
FROM ONE OF THE
SECOND BIGGEST CHRISTIAN

00:50:33.966 --> 00:50:35.833
PUBLISHER IN THE WORLD,
AND HE READ<i>SOULCON,</i>

00:50:35.933 --> 00:50:37.599
ACTUALLY WROTE ABOUT
IT IN HIS MAGAZINE.

00:50:37.699 --> 00:50:40.100
THAT<i>SOULCON CHALLENGE
</i> CHANGED HIS LIFE

00:50:40.200 --> 00:50:43.499
AND CAME TO ME.


00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:44.966
SO THAT WAS -- AND CAME TO ME
AND SAID, HEY, I WANT TO

00:50:45.066 --> 00:50:48.166
PUBLISH IT, BUT I NEED YOU
TO MAKE IT FOR MEN AND WOMEN.

00:50:48.266 --> 00:50:49.266
AND HE WAS A GREAT DUDE.


00:50:49.366 --> 00:50:53.266
HE'S JUST, HE'S LIKE, BUT
BOOKS TO MEN DON'T SELL.

00:50:53.366 --> 00:50:55.233
>> I LOVE THAT IT WAS,
WARNING FOR MEN ONLY.

00:50:55.333 --> 00:50:55.999
>> I KNOW.


00:50:56.099 --> 00:50:56.933
>> THAT'S THE BEST PART.


00:50:57.033 --> 00:50:57.866
>> WHICH IS SO COOL.


00:50:57.966 --> 00:50:58.866
>> MEN NEED SOMETHING FOR THEM.


00:50:58.966 --> 00:51:00.033
>> THEY DO.


00:51:00.133 --> 00:51:01.333
AND I WAS WRESTLING
WITH HIM WITH THIS OF LIKE,

00:51:01.433 --> 00:51:02.632
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?


00:51:02.732 --> 00:51:03.799
>> IT'S NOT GOING
TO BE THE SAME.

00:51:03.899 --> 00:51:05.966
>> IT'S NOT GONNA
BE THE SAME.

00:51:06.066 --> 00:51:09.566
AND HE SAID, I WON'T, I
WON'T DO IT BECAUSE JUST

00:51:09.666 --> 00:51:10.933
THE DATA HAS TO GO.


00:51:11.033 --> 00:51:12.766
BUT HE SAID, YOUR
BOOK CHANGED MY LIFE.

00:51:12.866 --> 00:51:14.800
AND HE WROTE ABOUT
IT IN HIS MAGAZINE.

00:51:14.900 --> 00:51:18.932
AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST
HAD TO, FOR ME, I HAD TO

00:51:19.032 --> 00:51:21.532
REALLY GO DOWN A JOURNEY
OF, AS A SPEAKER,

00:51:21.632 --> 00:51:24.000
WHEN I STEPPED INTO THAT,
GOD CALLED ME TO WRITE A BOOK

00:51:24.100 --> 00:51:26.266
TO MEN AND THEN SPEAK
TO MEN, WHICH WAS

00:51:26.366 --> 00:51:27.800
A DYING INDUSTRY, LIKE
MEN'S MINISTRY

00:51:27.900 --> 00:51:29.200
AND MEN'S SPEAKERS.


00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:32.399
IT'S USUALLY A PASTOR THAT
DOES IT ON THE SIDE,

00:51:32.499 --> 00:51:33.999
WHICH IS AMAZING.


00:51:34.099 --> 00:51:36.033
BUT GOD WAS CALLING ME
INTO FULL-TIME

00:51:36.133 --> 00:51:38.800
MEN'S MINISTRY WORK AND
WRITE A BOOK TO MEN.

00:51:38.900 --> 00:51:41.733
AND I LITERALLY, MY FIRST
DAY OF THAT FAMILY, FRIENDS,

00:51:41.833 --> 00:51:42.899
ALL OF MY
MARKETING CAMPAIGNS,

00:51:42.999 --> 00:51:46.300
I SOLD 17 COPIES AND I
THINK 15 AT LEAST

00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:46.999
WERE FAMILY MEMBERS.


00:51:47.099 --> 00:51:48.900
I WAS DEVASTATED.


00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.266
IT TOOK ME FIVE AND
A HALF YEARS TO WRITE IT,

00:51:52.366 --> 00:51:53.800
>> I WAS, I WAS
DEVASTATED AND I WENT,

00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:56.866
I LITERALLY CRIED
MYSELF TO SLEEP.

00:51:56.966 --> 00:51:59.599
AND I WOKE UP AND I SAID,
DAD, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?

00:51:59.699 --> 00:52:01.299
HE SAID,
JUST KEEP GOING.

00:52:01.399 --> 00:52:02.466
>> YEP.


00:52:02.566 --> 00:52:06.233
>> AND I MEAN, LIKE I STARTED
MY SPEAKING CAREER,

00:52:06.333 --> 00:52:08.533
I'D DRIVE FIVE HOURS
AND THERE'D BE THREE GUYS

00:52:08.633 --> 00:52:11.400
WAITING TO HEAR ME SPEAK,
AND I'D SPEAK TO THOSE

00:52:11.500 --> 00:52:13.366
THREE GUYS AS FAITHFULLY
AS I COULD,

00:52:13.466 --> 00:52:14.799
AND I'D START TO SEE IT.


00:52:14.899 --> 00:52:17.133
AND SIX MONTHS LATER, I
SPOKE AT A CONFERENCE WITH

00:52:17.233 --> 00:52:20.566
3,500 PEOPLE, AND I HAD A
VIDEO GO VIRAL,

00:52:20.666 --> 00:52:21.999
AND THAT BOOK TOOK OFF.


00:52:22.099 --> 00:52:23.099
>> WOW.


00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.032
>> AND THE WHOLE SERIES
JUST LIKE TOOK OFF IN

00:52:26.132 --> 00:52:28.299
IMPACTING AND CHANGING
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS

00:52:28.399 --> 00:52:31.200
OF LIVES AND FAMILIES.


00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:33.266
BUT I THINK WHEN GOD
CALLS US TO SOMETHING, HE

00:52:33.366 --> 00:52:35.833
CALLS US TO BE
AND THEN TO DO

00:52:35.933 --> 00:52:37.333
IN THE AREA THAT WE'RE IN.


00:52:37.433 --> 00:52:39.100
AND IT WAS MEN'S MINISTRY
AND I STARTED TO SEE IT

00:52:39.200 --> 00:52:42.166
REALLY SUCCEED.


00:52:42.266 --> 00:52:44.033
AND THEN I WAS ON VACATION
WITH MY FAMILY, AND I WAS

00:52:44.133 --> 00:52:45.799
WALKING, AND I FELT A GUST
OF WIND HIT MY CHEST AND

00:52:45.899 --> 00:52:46.833
THERE WAS NO WIND.


00:52:46.933 --> 00:52:48.866
AND I'M LIKE, THAT
WAS REALLY WEIRD.

00:52:48.966 --> 00:52:50.900
AND I WAS LIKE, LORD, ARE
YOU TRYING TO TALK TO ME?

00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:52.933
LIKE THERE WAS NO
AIR CONDITIONING GUST HERE.

00:52:53.033 --> 00:52:54.033
IT WAS REALLY EARLY
IN THE MORNING.

00:52:54.133 --> 00:52:56.966
I WAS GOING TO LIFT BEFORE
THE DAY AT THE BEACH

00:52:57.066 --> 00:52:58.132
AND HE CALLS ME OUT.


00:52:58.232 --> 00:53:00.033
HE SAYS, HEY, WILL YOU
FOLLOW ME INTO THE DEPTH

00:53:00.133 --> 00:53:01.600
OF THE OCEAN?


00:53:01.700 --> 00:53:04.166
I WAS LIKE, THAT'S
A TERRIFYING ASK.

00:53:04.266 --> 00:53:05.133
LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU --


00:53:05.233 --> 00:53:06.499
YOU ALREADY CALLED
ME TO MEN'S MINISTRY.

00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.699
LIKE, WE BUILT IT
AND ESTABLISHED IT.

00:53:08.799 --> 00:53:10.232
I'M DOING IT FULL TIME.


00:53:10.332 --> 00:53:12.466
LIKE, WHAT'S MORE DEPTH OF
THE OCEAN --

00:53:12.566 --> 00:53:13.733
IT TOOK ME 20 MINUTES.


00:53:13.833 --> 00:53:16.166
I SAT DOWN AND I HAVE A
PICTURE EXACTLY WHERE I WAS AT.

00:53:16.266 --> 00:53:19.132
TOOK ME 20 MINUTES, AND HE
CALLED ME FROM THAT POINT

00:53:19.232 --> 00:53:22.399
TO BE A FILMMAKER
AND AN ACTOR.

00:53:22.499 --> 00:53:23.399
>> AND SO THAT'S
WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

00:53:23.499 --> 00:53:27.299
>> HOW OLD WERE YOU THERE
OR WHEN WAS THAT?

00:53:27.399 --> 00:53:29.132
>> SO THAT WAS, OOOH,
A GOOD QUESTION.

00:53:29.232 --> 00:53:30.633
2017.


00:53:30.733 --> 00:53:32.066
>> OKAY.


00:53:32.166 --> 00:53:33.333
>> SO THAT WOULD HAVE
BEEN EIGHT YEARS AGO.

00:53:33.433 --> 00:53:35.233
>> YEAH.


00:53:35.333 --> 00:53:37.366
>> 2018 MAYBE.


00:53:37.466 --> 00:53:39.600
SO WE ANSWERED THAT CALL
AND I WRESTLED WITH

00:53:39.700 --> 00:53:40.733
THE LORD ON IT.


00:53:40.833 --> 00:53:42.566
LIKE I THOUGHT
ACTORS WERE SISSIES.

00:53:42.666 --> 00:53:44.400
IT'S LIKE THEY
DON'T REAL FIGHT.

00:53:44.500 --> 00:53:46.933
LIKE I'M I'M NOT --
LIKE I'M NOT A SISSY, GOD.

00:53:47.033 --> 00:53:48.466
LIKE, YEAH, COME ON.


00:53:48.566 --> 00:53:49.500
>> YOU GOT THE WRONG GUY.


00:53:49.600 --> 00:53:50.600
>> YOU GOT THE WRONG GUY.


00:53:50.700 --> 00:53:51.766
>> LIKE PEOPLE WHO GET
INTO ACTING, THEY WANT TO

00:53:51.866 --> 00:53:52.899
DO ACTING.


00:53:52.999 --> 00:53:54.532
AND YOU WEREN'T
SEEKING FOR THAT.

00:53:54.632 --> 00:53:56.533
>> NO.


00:53:56.633 --> 00:53:57.566
>> SO, LIKE, THERE WAS
A WRESTLING THERE.

00:53:57.666 --> 00:53:59.066
>> THAT'S WHY I WANTED
TO ASK THE QUESTION.

00:53:59.166 --> 00:53:59.799
>> I'M GLAD YOU DID


00:53:59.899 --> 00:54:00.899
BECAUSE I DIDN'T
KNOW THAT.

00:54:00.999 --> 00:54:02.066
I JUST THOUGHT THAT
WAS SOMETHING YOU DID.

00:54:02.166 --> 00:54:03.500
>> I WAS TERRIFIED TO TELL
MY WIFE, LIKE,

00:54:03.600 --> 00:54:04.466
CAN YOU IMAGINE?


00:54:04.566 --> 00:54:06.133
YOU'VE NEVER TALKED
ABOUT ACTING ONCE.

00:54:06.233 --> 00:54:07.000
>> AND ALL OF A SUDDEN.


00:54:07.100 --> 00:54:07.966
>> WHAT DID YOUR WIFE SAY?


00:54:08.066 --> 00:54:09.632
>> YOU ALREADY HAVE
KIDS AT THAT AGE.

00:54:09.732 --> 00:54:12.733
SO YOU'RE LIKE, HEY,
I'M GOING TO BECOME AN ACTOR.

00:54:12.833 --> 00:54:14.366
>> YEAH. AND SHE'S LIKE,
LET'S DO IT.

00:54:14.466 --> 00:54:16.400
>> OH, THAT'S A GOOD SPOUSE.


00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:17.466
>> I WAS LIKE,
YOU'RE CRAZY.

00:54:17.566 --> 00:54:20.533
THIS IS WHERE LIKE YOU
FIGHT ME AND YOU SAY NO.

00:54:20.633 --> 00:54:21.433
>> YEAH, YOU'RE SUPPOSED
TO SAY NO

00:54:21.533 --> 00:54:23.566
SO I GO BACK TO
GOD AND NEGOTIATE.

00:54:23.666 --> 00:54:26.500
>> BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
LIKE, WHY AN ACTOR,

00:54:26.600 --> 00:54:28.933
IF I'M CALLED
TO COMMUNICATE?

00:54:29.033 --> 00:54:31.766
AND THE LORD JUST ALLOWED
ME TO SEE THAT HOW MOVIES

00:54:31.866 --> 00:54:33.066
COMMUNICATE TO THE
MASCULINE SOUL.

00:54:33.166 --> 00:54:34.366
>> OH, TOTALLY.


00:54:34.466 --> 00:54:36.433
>> TOTALLY.


00:54:36.533 --> 00:54:38.066
>> THE BEST CONTENT
FOR ME, I THINK.

00:54:38.166 --> 00:54:39.366
I SHOW HER THAT
ALL THE TIME.

00:54:39.466 --> 00:54:42.466
>> GOD'S SPOKEN TO ME SO
DEEPLY THROUGH MOVIES.

00:54:42.566 --> 00:54:43.766
>> SO MUCH.


00:54:43.866 --> 00:54:44.800
>> YOU'RE THE
RIGHT ONES THERE.

00:54:44.900 --> 00:54:46.266
AND THERE'S, YOU
KNOW, THERE'S --

00:54:46.366 --> 00:54:48.466
>> THERE'S SO MANY GOOD
ONES, BUT IT'S SUCH AN

00:54:48.566 --> 00:54:52.899
IMPACTFUL WAY TO CHANGE
AND IMPACT EMOTIONS, RIGHT?

00:54:52.999 --> 00:54:54.866
LIKE AS A SPEAKER, THE
BEST THING THAT I CAN DO

00:54:54.966 --> 00:54:57.299
TECHNICALLY ON A STAGE IS
TO GET YOU TO EMOTIONALLY

00:54:57.399 --> 00:54:59.099
THINK ABOUT SOMETHING
IN YOUR LIFE.

00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.633
THE BEST MOVIE MAKES YOU
THINK ABOUT YOURSELF

00:55:01.733 --> 00:55:02.599
IN THAT SCENE.


00:55:02.699 --> 00:55:03.899
>> TOTALLY.


00:55:03.999 --> 00:55:05.866
>> SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW,
LIKE YOU GET LOST IN IT, RIGHT?

00:55:05.966 --> 00:55:09.999
LIKE, MY ONE OF MY BEST
FRIENDS MADE THE MOVIE

00:55:10.099 --> 00:55:12.499
WITH KURT WARNER, SO
ANDY ERWIN DIRECTED IT.

00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.833
I LOVE ANDY, AMERICAN
UNDERDOG, OH, SO GOOD.

00:55:16.933 --> 00:55:19.633
IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T
SEEN IT, IT'S SO GOOD.

00:55:19.733 --> 00:55:21.033
SO HE'S THE DIRECTOR.


00:55:21.133 --> 00:55:22.566
HE OWNS KINGDOM STORY.


00:55:22.666 --> 00:55:24.166
HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF
<i>I CAN ONLY IMAGINE</i> .

00:55:24.266 --> 00:55:25.900
I CAN ONLY IMAGINE TWO
THAT'S COMING OUT.

00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:27.732
UNBELIEVABLE.


00:55:27.832 --> 00:55:30.599
BUT YOU WATCH THAT STORY OF
KURT WARNER, YOU GUYS GOTTA

00:55:30.699 --> 00:55:31.933
WATCH IT IF YOU
HAVEN'T SEEN IT.

00:55:32.033 --> 00:55:33.666
I JUST LIKE, I'M JUST CRYING
WATCHING IT.

00:55:33.766 --> 00:55:36.166
HE HAS THIS DREAM
AND NOW HE'S WORKING

00:55:36.266 --> 00:55:38.899
IN A GROCERY STORE AND
LIKE OVERLOOKED.

00:55:38.999 --> 00:55:40.766
AND HE'S CAN'T PROVIDE
FOR HIS FAMILY.

00:55:40.866 --> 00:55:44.033
AND THEN LIKE HE WINS THE
SUPER BOWL AND HE'S IN

00:55:44.133 --> 00:55:46.499
THE NFL HALL OF FAME.


00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.766
IT'S A COOL STORY TO SAY
LIKE, HEY, WHEN GOD CALLS

00:55:49.866 --> 00:55:52.399
YOU AND LEADS YOU.


00:55:52.499 --> 00:55:53.966
YOU GUYS GOTTA WATCH IT.


00:55:54.066 --> 00:55:55.566
>> I JUST CLOCKED
IN MY MIND.

00:55:55.666 --> 00:55:57.033
SO YOU'RE SAYING
AS GOD LEADS YOU?

00:55:57.133 --> 00:55:58.066
>> YEAH.


00:55:58.166 --> 00:56:00.533
LIKE YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE
GONNA, THE BEST --

00:56:00.633 --> 00:56:03.066
IF YOUR LIFE DOESN'T HAVE
MOMENTS LIKE THAT AND YOU

00:56:03.166 --> 00:56:05.899
DON'T HAVE THOSE STRETCHES
OF GOD, WHERE ARE YOU?

00:56:05.999 --> 00:56:08.633
I'D BE REALLY NERVOUS
BECAUSE GOD PREPARES

00:56:08.733 --> 00:56:10.466
THOSE HEARTS THROUGH --


00:56:10.566 --> 00:56:12.466
LIKE, IF YOU HAVE A
DESTINY THAT'S GOING TO

00:56:12.566 --> 00:56:13.666
IMPACT PEOPLE
IN A CALLING,

00:56:13.766 --> 00:56:16.300
YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH
THOSE TIMES WHERE ALL OF A

00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:18.666
SUDDEN YOUR SOUL
FEELS IMPRISONED BY

00:56:18.766 --> 00:56:21.600
LIKE, I WANT TO QUIT.


00:56:21.700 --> 00:56:23.799
LIKE, I THINK THAT
CONVERSATION WITH JESUS

00:56:23.899 --> 00:56:28.066
AND PETER AND ALL THE
APOSTLES WAS MORE LIKE,

00:56:28.166 --> 00:56:31.166
WHERE ELSE WOULD WE GO?


00:56:31.266 --> 00:56:32.566
LIKE, HE'S LIKE, YOU
GUYS WANT TO LEAVE, TOO?

00:56:32.666 --> 00:56:34.899
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS
LIKE, LIKE STARRY-EYED,

00:56:34.999 --> 00:56:36.799
JESUS, WHERE ELSE WOULD WE GO?


00:56:36.899 --> 00:56:37.700
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S
JUST LIKE, ARE YOU KIDDING

00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:38.599
ME, MAN?


00:56:38.699 --> 00:56:39.566
WE'VE BURNED
EVERYTHING ELSE.

00:56:39.666 --> 00:56:42.066
I DON'T HAVE
ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO.

00:56:42.166 --> 00:56:42.733
OF COURSE I'M
GONNA FOLLOW YOU.

00:56:42.833 --> 00:56:43.633
>> YEAH.


00:56:43.733 --> 00:56:44.600
>> I'VE BEEN THERE
MULTIPLE TIMES IN

00:56:44.700 --> 00:56:45.533
FOLLOWING JESUS.


00:56:45.633 --> 00:56:47.866
IF, LIKE, IF I
COULD QUIT, I WOULD.

00:56:47.966 --> 00:56:50.000
BUT YOU'RE SO GOOD.


00:56:50.100 --> 00:56:52.366
AND THIS IS SO HARD.


00:56:52.466 --> 00:56:54.066
SO THAT'S WHAT I REALIZED
WITH ACTING, OF HIM

00:56:54.166 --> 00:56:55.100
CALLING ME INTO THAT,


00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:56.366
AND THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.


00:56:56.466 --> 00:56:59.866
>> ONE OF OUR FAVORITE
SONGS RIGHT NOW TALKS ABOUT

00:56:59.966 --> 00:57:02.366
OUR BACKUP PLAN IS
TO GET BACK UP AGAIN.

00:57:02.466 --> 00:57:04.166
>> THAT'S THE ONLY
BACKUP PLAN YOU NEED.

00:57:04.266 --> 00:57:05.200
>> THAT'S SO COOL.


00:57:05.300 --> 00:57:06.333
>> YEAH, IT IS.


00:57:06.433 --> 00:57:08.732
>> SO IT'S LIKE OUR FAMILY
ANTHEM RIGHT NOW.

00:57:08.832 --> 00:57:09.999
EVEN MY BOYS
LOVE IT, TOO.

00:57:10.099 --> 00:57:11.966
>> THEY DO.


00:57:12.066 --> 00:57:12.999
>> THAT'S SO COOL.


00:57:13.099 --> 00:57:15.733
>> IT'S IMPORTANT AS
BELIEVERS THAT, YEAH,

00:57:15.833 --> 00:57:18.099
YOU HAVE TO GET BACK UP
BECAUSE THE LORD IS

00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:19.833
REFINING US.


00:57:19.933 --> 00:57:21.799
AND THOSE HARDSHIPS,
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE

00:57:21.899 --> 00:57:25.566
DEPRESSION, IF WE JUST
TAKE THAT EXAMPLE, THAT WAS

00:57:25.666 --> 00:57:27.932
ALLOWED TO TAKE PLACE
WITH YOU BECAUSE HE WAS

00:57:28.032 --> 00:57:31.132
REFINING YOU AND BIRTHING
SOMETHING NEW THAT WOULD

00:57:31.232 --> 00:57:32.666
TOUCH MANY LIVES.


00:57:32.766 --> 00:57:34.999
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
I ENCOURAGE REBECCA ALL

00:57:35.099 --> 00:57:37.666
THE TIME AND MYSELF, IS
THAT HE ALLOWS THESE

00:57:37.766 --> 00:57:40.833
THINGS TO TAKE PLACE
OR TO HAPPEN,

00:57:40.933 --> 00:57:42.999
THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, NOT BECAUSE
HE'S OUT TO GET US

00:57:43.099 --> 00:57:44.600
OR HE'S TAKING HIS EYE
OFF THE BALL,

00:57:44.700 --> 00:57:45.766
HE'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION.


00:57:45.866 --> 00:57:46.933
IT'S BECAUSE HE'S REFINING
US AND PREPARING US FOR

00:57:46.999 --> 00:57:50.266
MINISTRY OR WHATEVER
IT IS, LIFE.

00:57:50.366 --> 00:57:53.299
AND YOU HAVE TO
EXPERIENCE THAT.

00:57:53.399 --> 00:57:56.766
>> AND YOU HAVE TO TRUST
HIM IN THE MIDST OF IT

00:57:56.866 --> 00:57:57.866
AND NOT
GIVE UP HOPE.

00:57:57.966 --> 00:57:59.799
>> AND THE OLDER I GET,
THE MORE I RELATE WITH

00:57:59.899 --> 00:58:01.433
JACOB THAN DAVID.


00:58:01.533 --> 00:58:03.766
LIKE I USED TO THINK LIKE
ROCK KAZAKH, SEND ME INTO

00:58:03.866 --> 00:58:06.100
THE BATTLEFIELD, LIKE I'M
STRONG AND COURAGEOUS

00:58:06.200 --> 00:58:09.166
AND LIKE I FEEL MORE LIKE
JACOB, LIKE EXACTLY

00:58:09.266 --> 00:58:11.466
WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING
IS SO HARD OF WHEN GOD'S

00:58:11.566 --> 00:58:16.833
LIKE, HEY, YOU
FAILED, GET BACK UP.

00:58:16.933 --> 00:58:18.132
IT'S LIKE, NO, I FAILED.


00:58:18.232 --> 00:58:19.633
I NEVER WANT TO DO
THAT EVER AGAIN.

00:58:19.733 --> 00:58:20.866
THAT HURT REALLY BAD.


00:58:20.966 --> 00:58:23.800
AND GOD'S LIKE, YEAH,
GET BACK UP.

00:58:23.900 --> 00:58:24.733
>> I STILL HAVE A
PURPOSE FOR YOU.

00:58:24.833 --> 00:58:25.866
>> I STILL HAVE A
PURPOSE FOR YOU.

00:58:25.966 --> 00:58:28.732
AND SOMETIMES HE'LL CALL
YOU TO THE SAME THING, BUT

00:58:28.832 --> 00:58:30.466
HE'S GOING TO CALL YOU
TO LIKE, HEY, THAT WAS

00:58:30.566 --> 00:58:31.666
LEARNING FOR YOU.


00:58:31.766 --> 00:58:32.766
AND THAT WAS INTENDED.


00:58:32.866 --> 00:58:35.066
OR MAYBE IT WAS JUST
TOTALLY STUPID, BUT HE'S A

00:58:35.166 --> 00:58:36.966
GOOD, GOOD FATHER TO US.


00:58:37.066 --> 00:58:38.699
LIKE HE'S GOING TO TAKE
YOU IN AND HE'S LIKE,

00:58:38.799 --> 00:58:39.600
I'M GONNA --


00:58:39.700 --> 00:58:41.400
SO I STILL HAVE THAT
DESTINY FOR YOU.

00:58:41.500 --> 00:58:42.566
LET'S GO DO IT.


00:58:42.666 --> 00:58:45.166
THIS TIME, DO IT FULLY WITH ME
AND NOT BY YOURSELF.

00:58:45.266 --> 00:58:46.466
AND THAT --


00:58:46.566 --> 00:58:47.732
OH, THAT IS BRUTAL.


00:58:47.832 --> 00:58:49.166
LIKE WHEN YOUR BACKUP PLAN
IS GETTING BACK UP AGAIN,

00:58:49.266 --> 00:58:50.599
>> RIGHT.


00:58:50.699 --> 00:58:52.999
>> BUT ONE OF MY LIFE
VERSES, AND IT'S ENGRAVED

00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:55.799
ON MY IPAD, THAT'S LIKE
FROM 2014 OR SOMETHING,

00:58:55.899 --> 00:58:58.099
SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF
THAT IPAD STILL EXISTS,

00:58:58.199 --> 00:58:59.600
BUT GOD WORKS ALL THINGS
TOGETHER FOR GOOD FOR

00:58:59.700 --> 00:59:01.433
THOSE WHO ARE CALLED
ACCORDING TO HIS PURPOSES.

00:59:01.533 --> 00:59:02.400
>> YEAH.


00:59:02.500 --> 00:59:03.466
>> YOU KNOW, AND JUST
REMINDING MYSELF.

00:59:03.566 --> 00:59:04.099
>> YEAH, IT'S GOOD.


00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:05.033
IT'S A GOOD REMINDER.


00:59:05.133 --> 00:59:05.932
>> WE'RE CALLED.


00:59:06.032 --> 00:59:07.066
I'M CALLED.


00:59:07.166 --> 00:59:09.033
I KNOW THAT MY IDENTITY IS
IN HIM AND HE'S GOING TO

00:59:09.133 --> 00:59:12.033
WORK EVERYTHING TOGETHER
FOR GOOD, NOT BY MY MIGHT,

00:59:12.133 --> 00:59:13.466
NOR BY POWER, BUT BY HIS.


00:59:13.566 --> 00:59:14.700
>> YEAH.


00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.099
>> SO WE'RE GOING TO LINK ALL
OF THESE BOOKS BECAUSE,

00:59:16.199 --> 00:59:17.633
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT
PEOPLE TO HAVE TO LIKE

00:59:17.733 --> 00:59:18.699
SCROLL BACK AND FORTH, BUT
WE'LL LINK THEM

00:59:18.799 --> 00:59:19.599
ALL IN THE DESCRIPTION.


00:59:19.699 --> 00:59:22.333
BUT THIS ONE
IS A BREAKDOWN,

00:59:22.433 --> 00:59:23.600
<i>SOULCON WARRIOR ELITE.</i>


00:59:23.700 --> 00:59:25.366
SO IS THIS --


00:59:25.466 --> 00:59:26.932
>> IT'S A SEQUEL TO
<i>SOULCON CHALLENGE.</i>

00:59:27.032 --> 00:59:28.966
SO IT'S THE
NEXT SIX WEEKS.

00:59:29.066 --> 00:59:30.232
>> SO IT'S A SIX WEEKS
CHALLENGE.

00:59:30.332 --> 00:59:31.766
AND THEN THIS IS
ANOTHER SIX WEEKS.

00:59:31.866 --> 00:59:32.966
>> YEAH.


00:59:33.066 --> 00:59:34.466
AND IT'S COOL BECAUSE
BEFORE EVEN ACTING I WROTE IT

00:59:34.566 --> 00:59:36.799
MORE LIKE YOU'RE GOING
THROUGH LIKE A MOVIE.

00:59:36.899 --> 00:59:38.833
SO YOU SHOW UP TO THIS
FICTIONAL TRAINING CAMP

00:59:38.933 --> 00:59:40.533
WITH ALL THESE GUYS, AND
YOU GET TO KNOW THEM

00:59:40.633 --> 00:59:41.700
THROUGH THE PROCESS.


00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:43.199
THERE'S DAILY CHALLENGES.


00:59:43.299 --> 00:59:44.899
THAT SEQUEL, THEY COME BACK OUT


00:59:44.999 --> 00:59:46.199
AND YOU GET
TO KNOW THEM MORE.

00:59:46.299 --> 00:59:48.566
SO GUYS THAT WERE
STRUGGLING HAVE HAD SUCCESS.

00:59:48.666 --> 00:59:50.899
SOME GUYS FAILED AND YOU
GET TO SEE

00:59:50.999 --> 00:59:53.133
AUTHENTIC BROTHERHOOD.


00:59:53.233 --> 00:59:55.200
SO IT'S TAKING
YOU ON A JOURNEY WHILE

00:59:55.300 --> 00:59:58.966
GIVING YOU THINGS LIKE MAX
PUSH-UPS DAY,

00:59:59.066 --> 01:00:01.400
48-HOUR FAST DAY
IN THAT ONE,

01:00:01.500 --> 01:00:02.400
WHICH IS LIKE MOST GUYS
READ IT AND

01:00:02.500 --> 01:00:04.100
THEY'RE LIKE, ARE
YOU KIDDING ME, 48 HOURS?

01:00:04.200 --> 01:00:05.433
>> THAT'S MY SWEET
SPOT RIGHT THERE.

01:00:05.533 --> 01:00:06.399
>> YEAH.


01:00:06.499 --> 01:00:07.466
IT'S LIKE ONCE YOU CROSS
OVER INTO THE 72,

01:00:07.566 --> 01:00:08.766
YOU'RE HURTING REALLY BAD.


01:00:08.866 --> 01:00:10.966
BUT 42 IS NOT
NOT SUPER BAD.

01:00:11.066 --> 01:00:12.966
>> WHAT I FIND ABOUT
FASTING, BUT I HEAR THE

01:00:13.066 --> 01:00:15.933
LORD LIKE ON THE --
AFTER THE 24TH HOUR.

01:00:16.033 --> 01:00:16.800
>> YEAH. IT'S COOL.


01:00:16.900 --> 01:00:17.866
>> IT'S COOL.


01:00:17.966 --> 01:00:18.933
>> IT'S REALLY COOL.


01:00:19.033 --> 01:00:20.266
>> LIKE WHEN YOU'VE TAKEN
EVERYTHING AWAY AND

01:00:20.366 --> 01:00:23.533
YOU'RE JUST SIPPING ON
WATER OR ELECTROLYTES,

01:00:23.633 --> 01:00:26.566
YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF
NOISE THAT GOES,

01:00:26.666 --> 01:00:28.966
AND YOUR COMMUNION WITH
GOD IS JUST SHARPER.

01:00:29.066 --> 01:00:29.899
>> YEAH.


01:00:29.999 --> 01:00:31.733
>> AND YOU KNOW, HE
SPEAKS QUICKLY.

01:00:31.833 --> 01:00:32.700
>> YEAH.


01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:34.099
AND IT'S REALLY,
REALLY GOOD FOR GUYS

01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:36.566
TO REMIND LIKE, HEY,
MASCULINITY,

01:00:36.666 --> 01:00:38.733
CHRISTIANITY COMES
DOWN TO LIKE

01:00:38.833 --> 01:00:40.699
LISTENING AND OBEYING.


01:00:40.799 --> 01:00:43.433
SO IF YOU'RE NOT SPENDING
TIME SEEKING GOD TO LISTEN

01:00:43.533 --> 01:00:46.433
TO HIS VOICE, THEN YOU
MIGHT NOT BE ABLE LIKE,

01:00:46.533 --> 01:00:49.132
FOR ME, IT'S HIM CALLING
ME TO BE AN ACTOR,

01:00:49.232 --> 01:00:51.932
MY PHONE WAS OFF THAT
WHOLE VACATION, NOT EVEN

01:00:52.032 --> 01:00:54.333
TURNED ON, LIKE I WAS
COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED

01:00:54.433 --> 01:00:55.900
FROM EVERYTHING DIGITALLY.


01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:57.000
>> GOOD FOR YOU.


01:00:57.100 --> 01:00:58.233
>> AND I COULD HEAR
HIM REALLY CLEARLY.

01:00:58.333 --> 01:00:59.466
>> RIGHT.


01:00:59.566 --> 01:01:01.399
>> AND THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT
IN OUR LIVES TO SAY, MAN,

01:01:01.499 --> 01:01:04.066
YES, LISTEN TO GOD'S WORD,
SPEAK HIS WORD OUT LOUD.

01:01:04.166 --> 01:01:06.166
BUT HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU
SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENTS THAT

01:01:06.266 --> 01:01:10.033
ARE CUSTOM TO YOUR DNA AND
YOUR FAMILY'S DNA THAT YOU

01:01:10.133 --> 01:01:13.632
CANNOT ACCOMPLISH AND OBEY
UNLESS YOU HEAR HIS VOICE.

01:01:13.732 --> 01:01:16.700
SO THAT'S WHAT ALL THOSE
BOOKS ARE, IS THEY GET TO

01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:17.532
THE BOTTOM OF THAT.


01:01:17.632 --> 01:01:18.700
>> LOVE IT.


01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:20.266
WE GO ON QUARTERLY MARRIAGE
RETREATS, REBECCA AND I,

01:01:20.366 --> 01:01:21.600
>> THAT'S COOL.


01:01:21.700 --> 01:01:23.232
>> WE PUT OUR PHONE AWAY.


01:01:23.332 --> 01:01:24.366
JUST TO HAVE
THESE CONVERSATIONS

01:01:24.466 --> 01:01:26.299
WITHOUT ANY, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE WITH THREE KIDS

01:01:26.399 --> 01:01:27.866
AND WORK AND
ALL THE THINGS.

01:01:27.966 --> 01:01:29.033
>> ESPECIALLY LITTLE KIDS.


01:01:29.133 --> 01:01:31.266
>> IT'S HARD TO SIT DOWN
AND GET THE AMOUNT OF TIME

01:01:31.366 --> 01:01:33.299
YOU NEED TO GO DEEP ON
SUBJECTS AND MAKE SURE

01:01:33.399 --> 01:01:35.100
EVERYTHING IS ALIGNED.


01:01:35.200 --> 01:01:36.533
>> YEAH, IT'S REALLY GOOD.


01:01:36.633 --> 01:01:38.200
>> WELL, THANKS SO MUCH
FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.

01:01:38.300 --> 01:01:39.266
>> YEAH, THANKS FOR
HAVING ME, GUYS.

01:01:39.366 --> 01:01:40.900
>> REALLY A PLEASURE
TO HAVE YOU.

01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:42.499
AND GREAT TO GET
TO KNOW YOU MORE.

01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:43.399
>> YEAH. LOOK FORWARD TO IT.


01:01:43.499 --> 01:01:45.166
>> WE'LL LINK ALL
THOSE BOOKS.

01:01:45.266 --> 01:01:46.766
I'M EXCITED TO GO
THROUGH THEM MYSELF.

01:01:46.866 --> 01:01:49.599
>> YEAH, I'M EXCITED
FOR YOU, TOO.

01:01:49.699 --> 01:01:52.032
AND YEAH, I JUST WANT TO
ECHO WHAT HE'S SAYING.

01:01:52.132 --> 01:01:54.232
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU
FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

01:01:54.332 --> 01:01:57.166
AND I'M EXCITED TO CHECK
THESE FILMS OUT AS WELL.

01:01:57.266 --> 01:01:59.399
>> AND WE'LL DO A QUICK PUSH-UP
CHALLENGE OFF CAMERA

01:01:59.499 --> 01:02:00.866
WHEN WE STOP ROLLING.


01:02:00.966 --> 01:02:01.699
>> YEAH. I'M IN.


01:02:01.799 --> 01:02:02.566
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO.


01:02:02.666 --> 01:02:07.066
♪♪