REBECCA WEISS: HEY GUYS, FOR THIS INTERVIEW TODAY
I'M INTERVIEWING JONATHAN CAHN VIRTUALLY.
SO WE DID RUN INTO SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
SO IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON,
WE HAD THAT IN THE FIRST PART OF THE INTERVIEW,
BUT WE FIXED IT FOR THE SECOND PART.
SO IF YOU ARE WONDERING WHY IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT,
THAT'S THE REASON WHY.
I'M HERE WITH ONE OF MY FAVORITE GUESTS, VIA VIRTUALLY,
RABBI JONATHAN CAHN IS HERE.
WELCOME, SIR.
>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU, REBECCA.
ALWAYS A JOY.
>> AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK OUT,THE AVATAR.
WHAT SETS THIS --
WHAT COMPELLED YOU TO WRITE THIS ONE AND WHAT
SETS IT APART FROM THE OTHER BOOKS THAT YOU'VE
WRITTEN SO FAR?
>>THE AVATAR, I WOULD SAY,
IS THE MOST EXPLOSIVE BOOK I'VE WRITTEN.
I'VE WRITTEN EXPLOSIVE BOOKS, BUT THIS IS
ESPECIALLY EXPLOSIVE BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH
THE ENTIRE SPIRITUAL REALM, BUT INTERSECTING WITH
OUR REALM RIGHT NOW, WITH CURRENT EVENTS,
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN,
WHO ARE IN LEADERSHIP, IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING.
THE MYSTERY BEHIND THE ELECTIONS,
THE MYSTERY BEHIND AN ANCIENT MYSTERY
FROM THE BIBLE THAT DETERMINES WHO WILL BE
ON THE NATIONAL STAGE, HOW LONG THEY'LL BE THERE,
AND WHEN AND THEN WHERE.
WHAT IS THE PROPHETIC MOMENT THAT WE ARE AT
RIGHT NOW?
WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW?
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO AND WHERE --
WHERE DOES THE FUTURE LIE?
SOTHE AVATAR IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF,
IT'S KIND OF PULLING AWAY THE VEIL TO SEE WHAT
WE ARE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH.
SO I BELIEVE IT'S VERY MUCH FOR NOW, PROPHETICALLY.
>> YEAH, IT IS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DO, RABBI CAHN,
IS THE BIBLE SAYS IT'S THE GLORY OF GOD
TO CONCEAL A MATTER, AND IT'S THE GLORY OF KINGS
TO SEARCH THEM OUT.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT GOD'S CALLED YOU TO DO IS YOU GO INTO SCRIPTURE
AND THE HOLY SPIRIT DOWNLOADS THESE MYSTERIES
AND THESE PROPHETIC WORDS IN DUE SEASON.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE KIND OF THE COOL THINGS
ABOUT SCRIPTURE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS,
IS THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL GIVE YOU A DOWNLOAD.
CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN YOUR PROCESS OF HOW
YOU UNCOVER THESE MYSTERIES?
>> YEAH, AND I'M BLESSED WITH WHAT YOU SAID,
THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE,
LISTEN, THE BIBLE, YOU KNOW, A BOOK IS AS DEEP
AS ITS AUTHOR.
AND SO THE BIBLE IS INFINITE.
AND GOD'S REVELATIONS ARE INFINITE.
THERE'S NO END.
GOD IS THE GOD.
THE GOD OF THE BIBLE IS THE GOD OF NOW,
AND HE'S THE GOD OF HISTORY.
HE'S THE GOD OF PROPHECY.
HE'S THE GOD OF RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS --
YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU, THE VERY FIRST BOOK,
AS YOU KNOW, WAS THE HARBINGER.
AND I WAS STANDING AT GROUND ZERO, AND I SEE
A FALL, A TREE THAT HAD BEEN STRUCK DOWN.
AND IT'S -- AND THEN I, I GET THE LEADING
FROM THE LORD.
SO THERE'S A MYSTERY HERE AND YOU HAVE TO
SEARCH IT OUT.
AND SO WHAT I DID IS I STARTED IT, AND I,
AND I, I SAW THIS, IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST PUZZLE PIECE
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE GOT BIGGER AND BIGGER.
AND EVERY TIME I NEEDED LIKE, THE NEXT THING,
IT WOULD APPEAR, OR SOMEONE WOULD SAY SOMETHING
THAT WOULD -- OR I'D TYPE SOMETHING ON MY COMPUTER
AND SOMETHING WOULD COME UP THAT I DID NOT TYPE IN.
GOD LED IT.
AND SO IT'S BEEN THAT WAY WITH EVERY BOOK.
I MEAN, EVERY SINGLE BOOK.
I LIKE SOMETHING, EITHER SOMETHING WILL COME IN MY MIND
OR THE LORD WILL IMPRESS SOMETHING, AND
THEN HE WILL LEAD ME LIKE TO THE NEXT AND THE NEXT
AND THE NEXT.
AND I COULD NEVER REPRODUCE LIKE HOW I WRITE A BOOK,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT.
IT'S LIKE GOD IS JUST TAKING ME DOWN
THE, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD AND THIS,
AND THEN IT'S THIS.
I MEAN, I REMEMBER I WAS I WAS LYING IN MY BED
AND THREE KIND OF -- THREE THINGS COME INTO MY HEAD.
I'M LIKE, WOW, CAN THAT BE TRUE?
AND I GET UP, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE IS SLEEPING,
I GET UP, I TYPE ON THE COMPUTER AND IT'S ALL TRUE,
YOU KNOW, BUT IT JUST FIRST CAME INTO,
IT'S LIKE, LORD, JUST PUT IT IN.
AND THEN HE LEADS ME.
SO I DON'T TAKE ANY CREDIT.
IT'S ALL THE LORD.
AND, AGAIN, I COULD NEVER REPRODUCE IT.
FROMTHE HARBINGER ON, EVERYTHING IS LIKE A JOURNEY.
>> AND, YOU KNOW, LEADING INTOTHE AVATAR, PART OF IT
IS COMING BACK TO WHAT I CALL THIS PRIESTLY
ANOINTING THAT I FEEL LIKE GOD'S GIVEN YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, GOD CALLED THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO BE
A BLESSING TO THE NATIONS.
AND WE SEE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT INSTEAD OF THE
JEWISH PEOPLE, USUALLY -- SOMETIMES THEY WOULD REACH
THE NATIONS.
YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT JONAH IN NINEVEH,
BUT A LOT OF TIMES THE PAGAN NATIONS WOULD INFILTRATE
THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND THEY WOULD WORSHIP FALSE GODS.
BUT THERE WAS STILL THAT PRIESTLY ANOINTING AND
COMMANDMENT FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO BE A BLESSING TO
THE NATIONS BY SHARING THE GOSPEL AND SHARING WHO GOD IS,
THE ONE TRUE GOD.
AND GOD KIND OF LEADS YOU IN
MODERN TIMES ON THIS KIND OF PROPHETIC, SPIRITUAL
JOURNEY OF YOU GOING OUT TO THESE PLACES WHERE
THERE'S THESE PAGAN ENTITIES AND YOU BREAKING,
GOD USING YOU TO BREAK THAT AND BRING A BLESSING
TO THE LAND.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND HOW IT LEADS INTOTHE AVATAR ?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN, I'VE, I WROTE INTHE RETURN OF THE GODS
ABOUT THE GODS, WHICH ARE SPIRITS OR PRINCIPALITIES
THAT HAVE RETURNED WHEN WE DROVE GOD OUT.
YOU KNOW, WE OPENED THE DOOR FOR THESE OTHER THINGS
TO COME IN.
AND THESE SPECIFIC ONES, I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT,
BUT I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER REVEALED OR SHARED
MY ENCOUNTERS WITH THE GODS.
AND IT HAPPENED WHEN I WENT INTO THE NATIONS,
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY PLACES THE GODS
ARE STILL WORSHIPED.
AND I WAS ASKED TO GO TO INDIA.
AND INDIA IS A LAND OF WHERE THEY WORSHIP
30 MILLION GODS.
AND SO THE BIBLE SAYS THAT BEHIND THE GODS ARE THE
SPIRITS CALLED THE SHEDIM IN HEBREW
AND DAEMONIA IN GREEK, WHICH WE GET THE WORD DEMON FROM.
SO IT MEANS THERE'S A LOT OF SPIRITUAL THINGS GOING ON.
AND THE MOMENT I WAS ASKED TO GO TO INDIA,
IT WAS LIKE ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE.
I MEAN, AT THE CONGREGATION,
EVERYTHING WAS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM GOING.
AND I MEAN EVEN TO THE POINT THAT, YOU KNOW,
I'M ON THE PLANE AND I'M LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW
AND I'M SEEING PIECES OF THE ENGINE FALL
OR THE MECHANICS GOING PAST ME AND THE PLANE MAKES
AN EMERGENCY LANDING.
AND THEN BY LIKE THE SECOND DAY IN INDIA,
ME AND MY TEAM WERE ALMOST KILLED, YOU KNOW.
AND IT WAS THE MOST DANGEROUS THING I EVER DID
BECAUSE I NEVER SAW THE, THE POWER OF GOD
AND THE POWER OF THE ENEMY SO STRONGLY.
AND IT WASN'T JUST IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM,
IT WAS IN THE EARTHLY REALM.
WE WERE -- I WAS LITERALLY BEING PURSUED
BY OVER 200 PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO ME.
IT WAS A RADICAL HINDU MOVEMENT THAT WERE --
THEY WERE KILLING CHRISTIANS, YOU KNOW.
AND SO THEY ASKED ME, I WAS ASKED BY
THE CHRISTIANS OF INDIA TO WALK IN THE FOOTSTEPS
OF THE APOSTLE THOMAS.
ACCORDING TO THE TRADITION, THOMAS THE APOSTLE,
THE APOSTLE, BROUGHT THE GOSPEL TO INDIA.
SO THEY ASKED ME AS A JEWISH BELIEVER TO WALK THERE,
AND I DID, AND IT WAS TO CULMINATE BY ME
GOING UP THE MOUNTAIN WHERE THOMAS WAS KILLED,
YOU KNOW, MARTYRED, YOU KNOW, BY HIDDEN RADICALS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A MIRACLE THAT I --
THAT I SURVIVED THIS, THAT I DIDN'T GET KILLED.
I MEAN, LIKE, SO MUCH I CAN'T EVEN SAY, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T --
BUT AT THE END OF THE JOURNEY, I'M STANDING
IN FRONT OF, LIKE, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF INDIANS
AT NIGHT OUTDOORS.
AND I DECIDE BEFORE SHARING TO SOUND THE SHOFAR,
THE TRUMPET, THE BIBLICAL TRUMPET,
WHICH IS A SIGN OF GOD'S POWER.
AND SO I, I BLOW IT, AND THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.
IT WAS LIKE -- IT WAS LIKE A WAVE THAT HITS US BACK.
AND I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE IT LIKE, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE,
IMAGINE BEING AT AN EXORCISM,
EXCEPT MULTIPLY THAT BY THOUSANDS, THOUSANDS.
IT WAS LIKE A MASS EXORCISM, LIKE SPIRITS
WERE DEPARTING ALL OVER.
YOU KNOW, INDIA IS AGAIN THIS LAND OF THE GODS.
AND THE BIBLE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW,
BEHIND THE GODS ARE SPIRITS.
SO IT WAS LIKE A MASS EXORCISM.
AND WHEN I'M READING, LATER ON, I'M READING ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE TORAH,
GOD SAYS, WHEN YOU'RE IN BATTLE,
SOUND THE SHOFAR, THE TRUMPET, AND GOD WILL HEAR
AND YOU'LL HAVE VICTORY AGAINST YOUR ENEMY.
THEY'LL FLEE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR AGES,
JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SOUNDING THE SHOFAR
FOR THE DEVIL TO FLEE.
AND EVEN DURING EXORCISMS THEY WOULD SOUND THE SHOFAR
FROM ANCIENT TIMES.
BUT THE PEOPLE IN INDIA ARE NOT READING JEWISH HISTORY,
AND THEY'RE NOT READING THE BIBLE.
YET, WHEN THE SOUND OF THE TRUMPET, GOD'S POWER,
THEY -- JUST MASS EXORCISM.
AND AFTER THAT I GAVE A CALL TO SALVATION.
AND WE SAW ABOUT 70,000 PEOPLE PRAY
TO RECEIVE THE LORD.
BUT I SAW HOW REAL THE SPIRITS ARE,
THE REALM OF THE GODS AND THE SPIRITS,
AND THAT ULTIMATELY HAS TO DO WITH AMERICA.
BUT I SAW IT IN EVERY LAND, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW,
AFTER THIS I WAS ASKED TO GO TO CUBA.
AND I CAN TELL YOU,
BUT THERE'S -- IN EVERY LAND I SAW THIS.
>> THERE IS SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY IN REGARDS TO
THAT STORY, WHICH IS KIND OF HOW --
SO, THIS IS WHAT I KNOW ABOUT GOD.
GOD HAS A PLAN FOR EVERYTHING, AND GOD IS
INTENTIONAL IN EVERYTHING.
AND IT JUST HIT ME AS YOU WERE TALKING,
HOW THE APOSTLE THOMAS WAS A JEWISH BELIEVER
WHO WAS SENT TO INDIA TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL.
AND NOW HERE YOU ARE, A JEWISH BELIEVER,
SENT TO INDIA TO SHARE THE GOSPEL AND TO BREAK
THE STRONGHOLD OF THAT ENTITY OVER THAT AREA.
AND IT'S JUST LIKE A FULL-CIRCLE MOMENT,
AND IT KIND OF IS A TASTE, I THINK, OF WHAT GOD
IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO,
I THINK THROUGH THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
DO YOU SEE ANY CONNECTION THERE?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT POINT.
YEAH.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGE,
YOU KNOW, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AS YOU SAID, THEY WERE,
WE WERE CALLED TO BE A LIGHT TO THE NATIONS.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BRINGING GOD
TO THE GENTILES.
AND WE DID THROUGH THE APOSTLES, YOU KNOW.
BUT AFTER LIKE THAT, THOSE FIRST GENERATIONS,
THAT WAS IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE TORCH WAS, YOU KNOW, PASSED.
BUT IT WAS, FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
THEY LAID DOWN THE TORCH.
AND ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THOMAS,
THERE'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S A FIRE BURNING THAT REPRESENTS
THAT ANCIENT TORCH, THE FIRE THAT HE GAVE TO INDIA.
AND SO WHAT THEY DID ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN
IS THEY TOOK A TORCH AND THEY LIT THAT.
THEY GOT THE FLAME AND THEY BROUGHT IT BACK
AND THEY HANDED IT TO ME.
AND SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE 2,000 YEARS AGO,
THE JEWISH PEOPLE HANDED THE GOSPEL,
YOU KNOW, THE FIRE OF THE GOSPEL TO THE NATIONS.
AND THEN NOW, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE NATIONS
HANDING IT BACK TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
IT WAS KIND OF -- IT'S LIKE A REVERSE.
SO IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS.
IT'S LIKE, THIS IS THE TIME OF COMING BACK.
IT'S THE TIME OF RETURNING.
THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE JEWISH BELIEVERS AT ALL,
AND THEN THAT JEWISH BELIEVERS ARE BEING USED AGAIN.
SO, YEAH, IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE A FULL CIRCLE.
AND IT TURNS OUT, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT THE PLACE
WHERE THAT MOUNTAIN WAS, WHICH IS --
WHICH WAS CALLED MADRAS,
IT TURNS OUT IN THE 19TH CENTURY,
BELIEVERS USED TO GATHER THERE
AND PRAY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE
TO COME BACK TO GOD AND COME BACK INTO THE HARVEST.
AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT MOUNTAIN.
>> WOW, THAT'S SO POWERFUL.
BECAUSE I JUST KEEP, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO --
WE'LL GO TO CUBA.
I JUST -- I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH
ANTI-SEMITISM GOING ON, AND I APPLAUD YOU
FOR YOUR CONTENT BECAUSE IT'S SO GOOD.
GUYS, YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT JONATHAN CAHN'S
YOUTUBE CHANNEL.
HIS CONTENT IS AMAZING.
I'VE BEEN WATCHING IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROPHETIC AND DIVINE DESTINY
WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT'S NOT --
IT STARTED ALL THE WAY BACK,
THE BEGINNING OF SCRIPTURE, BUT IT'S STILL HAPPENING.
AND THERE'S MORE IN THE FUTURE, AND THERE'S
STILL A VERY PROFOUND DESTINY THERE.
AND WE KNOW IN ROMANS 11 IT SAYS, IF THE JEWISH IS --
IF THE JEWISH PEOPLE'S REJECTION OF MESSIAH
MEANT THAT THE GOSPEL WOULD GO TO THE GENTILES,
WHAT WOULD THEIR ACCEPTANCE BE,
BUT LIFE FROM THE DEAD, OR RESURRECTION
FROM THE DEAD.
AND SO THERE'S A VERY POWERFUL SPIRITUAL DESTINY
AND A SPIRITUAL PLAN FROM GOD INVOLVING
THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE IS
SUCH STRONG ANTI-SEMITISM THROUGH THOUSANDS
AND THOUSANDS OF YEARS CONTINUING.
AND WE ARE SEEING AN UPRISE IN IT TODAY.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE CONNECTION IS TO THAT,
KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW WITH THE AVATAR AND KIND OF
THE SPIRITUAL CLIMATE?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE ARE
RIGHT THERE AND, WELL, ONE IS, YOU KNOW,
REMEMBER THAT --
AND I SPOKE -- THE BOOK BEFORETHE AVATAR IS
THE DRAGON'S PROPHECY.
AND THAT GOES SPECIFIC.
YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT, THAT THERE IS A WAR,
AND THE WAR IS BETWEEN ONE REPRESENTED BY THE DRAGON,
WHICH IS THE ENEMY, OR SATAN, AND THEN AGAINST
A WOMAN WHO GIVES BIRTH TO THE MESSIAH,
THAT'S ISRAEL, THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
AND THAT WAR HAS BEEN RAGING BECAUSE, LISTEN,
IF GOD -- IT GOES TOGETHER.
EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, IF GOD CHOSE,
CALLED THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO BE A LIGHT TO THE NATIONS
TO ACCOMPLISH HIS PURPOSES IN THE WORLD, GIVE THE WORD,
WHICH HE DID, SO THEY GAVE THE WORLD THE BIBLE,
GAVE THE WORLD THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD,
GAVE THE WORLD GOD, MESSIAH, ARE GOING TO BRING THE KINGDOM
INTO THE WORLD.
WELL, THE ENEMY, WHO HATES GOD AND WARS AGAINST HIS PURPOSES,
IS GOING TO WAR AGAINST THEM.
AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE DAY OF THE KINGDOM,
HE'S GOING TO WAR EVEN MORE, MORE VIOLENTLY.
AND ALSO WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE THE WEST,
WHERE YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE THEM
TIME WHERE WE'RE A FALL AWAY FROM GOD, WELL,
IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE
SUSCEPTIBLE TO THIS, YOU KNOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT -- THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN
IN AMERICA TO THIS DEGREE THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW.
YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IN THE LAST DAYS,
ALL NATIONS ARE GOING TO COME AGAINST ISRAEL.
WELL, THAT INCLUDES AMERICA.
NOW, AMERICA HAS BEEN THE GREATEST FRIEND OF ISRAEL.
BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE ENEMY KNOWS
YOU KNOW, IF HE CAN SEPARATE THAT,
THEN ISRAEL'S ALL ALONE.
OF COURSE, GOD IS THERE.
BUT THE THING IS THAT --
SO HOW CAN HE DO THAT?
WELL, THE KEY THAT'S KEEPING THE JEWISH,
WHAT'S KEEPING ACTUALLY AMERICA TO SUPPORTING ISRAEL,
IT'S NO LONGER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE
THEY, IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THEY'VE TURNED
BASICALLY ANTI-ISRAEL BY ALL THE POLLS.
BUT IT'S THE CONSERVATIVES
AND PARTICULARLY, IT'S THE CHRISTIANS,
OR THE BORN-AGAIN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS.
SO WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS THE ENEMY IS TRYING TO
THROW SEEDS TO THEM, TO CONFUSE, TO TAKE AWAY
THE SUPPORT AMONG THE CONSERVATIVES,
THE REPUBLICANS, AND CONFUSE BELIEVERS.
BECAUSE IF YOU CAN SEPARATE THAT,
YOU CAN SEPARATE AMERICA FROM ISRAEL.
>> AND I LOVE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THAT POINT
WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT,
WHICH HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY
VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ISRAEL.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING QUITE LIKE IT.
IT'S ALMOST SEEMINGLY OVERNIGHT THERE JUST BECAME
THIS HUGE UPTAKE IN ANTI-ISRAEL, ANTI-SEMITISM,
AND BLAMING EVERYTHING ON ISRAEL, WHICH I'VE NEVER --
IT'S LIKE YOU GET ONLINE AND IT'S LIKE,
OH, THIS IS BECAUSE OF ISRAEL.
AND EVERYTHING TRUMP IS DOING IS BECAUSE OF --
IT'S LIKE THEY'RE ACTING LIKE THERE'S THIS CONSPIRACY
OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE RUN THE WORLD AND THAT
THEY'RE THE EVIL ONES.
AND IN THAT, THERE'S SO MANY BELIEVERS
IN THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF
BAD THEOLOGY, WHICH IS SAYING THAT JESUS FULFILLED
THE COVENANTS AND IT SOUNDS ALL NICE,
COVENANT THEOLOGY,
AND JESUS FULFILLED THE COVENANTS.
AND THERE IS GROWING THIS,
NOT ONLY DIVISION, BECAUSE THE ENEMY
IS, YOU KNOW, HE CREATES DIVISION AND CHAOS
AND CONFUSION, WHICH IS VERY MUCH WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT ALSO I'M SEEING CONCERN WHERE PEOPLE
IN THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT ARE ALMOST BEGINNING TO
IDOLIZE NATIONALISM.
AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WELL, AMERICA FIRST,
WE'RE THE MOST IMPORTANT.
AND I JUST -- MY CONCERN IS RIDING THAT WAVE.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOVE YOUR COUNTRY,
BUT IF YOU MAKE IT AN IDOL, YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN UP --
IDOLATRY OPENS UP THE WAY TO DEMONIC POSSESSION.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
JUST EVERYTHING THAT I JUST SAID RIGHT THERE?
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT --
SEE, ANTI-SEMITISM NEVER DIES.
I MEAN, IT'S -- IT MIGHT GO THROUGH A LULL FOR A WHILE,
WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE, OH, IT'S GOING TO DISAPPEAR.
IT'S NEVER GOING TO DISAPPEAR UNTIL THE LORD COMES
BECAUSE BEHIND ANTI-SEMITISM ISN'T A
PERSON OR AN ORGANIZATION.
BEHIND ANTI-SEMITISM IS AN ANGEL, A FALLEN,
DARKENED ANGEL, SATAN.
AND HE DOESN'T DIE.
THAT'S WHY IN EVERY -- I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT,
EVERY GENERATION.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST GO BACK TO OUR, SAY,
OUR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS GENERATION, YOU GOT ADOLF HITLER
AND THE NAZIS, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU HAVE HAMAS.
THEN YOU HAVE -- YOU KNOW, AND THEY DON'T HAVE --
THERE'S NO CONNECTION.
YOU KNOW, THESE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE, ALL THESE VOICES
WOULD BE HATING EACH OTHER.
EXCEPT THE ONE THING THEY AGREE ON IS HATING THE JEWS
BECAUSE IT KEEPS ON REVIVING.
AND THE IDEA OF THE JEWS RULING THE WORLD,
I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING.
HERE YOU HAVE A PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN THE MOST
PERSECUTED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD AND THEY'RE
SUPPOSEDLY CONTROLLING IT, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CRAZY, YOU HAVE ISRAEL, WHICH IS
THE MOST CONDEMNED NATION IN THE UNITED NATIONS,
AND SUPPOSEDLY IT HAS ALL THIS INFLUENCE.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT IT REALLY IS?
THE DEVIL IS BEHIND IT.
AND, SEE, THE DEVIL IS AFRAID OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE
BASICALLY RULING THE WORLD, BECAUSE WHEN
MESSIAH COMES, ISRAEL IS GOING TO BE THE,
IS GOING TO BE THE KINGDOM OF ISRAEL.
SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S AFRAID OF, BECAUSE WHEN THAT
HAPPENS, HE'S OVER.
SO YOU HAVE ALL THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES,
ALL THE JEWS ARE DOING THESE THINGS.
AND BEFORE ISRAEL THEY SAID, THE JEWS, YOU KNOW.
NOW WITH ISRAEL, NOW IT'S ALL ISRAEL.
IT'S JUST THE SAME THING.
IT'S THE SAME ATTACK, DEMONIC ATTACK, THAT
HE'LL GET IN WHEREVER HE CAN GET IN.
HE GOT IN THROUGH THE LEFT.
YOU KNOW, THE LEFT HATES ISRAEL, YOU KNOW, BUT NOW
HE'S TRYING TO GET IN TO THE RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER, LEFT --
IF YOU HAVE THE LEFT WING WITHOUT GOD
OR IDOLATRY, OR IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT WING WITHOUT GOD,
WITH IDOLATRY, EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, HE'LL GET IN.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU'RE AT, HE'LL GET IN.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
SO WE KIND OF OPENED THE DOOR, YOU KNOW, AND
A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN STARTING THIS, YOU KNOW,
THEY'LL, THEY'LL USE THE NAME CHRISTIAN,
BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT OF THE
SPIRIT OF GOD IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
IT'S REALLY THE OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW.
BUT THERE ARE CHRISTIANS WHO ARE GETTING
CONFUSED BY IT.
AND ALSO, AS YOU SAID, IT'S BAD THEOLOGY,
WHICH IS A REVIVAL NOW,
NO ACCIDENT OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY
SAYING GOD IS FINISHED WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
IT'S ALL THE CHURCH AND ALL.
WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA,
YOU GOT TO IGNORE THE BIBLE.
YOU GOT TO IGNORE PAUL, WHO SAID, DID GOD REJECT
HIS PEOPLE?
GOD FORBID.
HE SAID, NO, GOD IS GOING TO FULFILL HIS PURPOSE
WITH THE PEOPLE.
BUT APPARENTLY THEY'RE NOT READING THAT.
>> NO.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY SO MUCH SCRIPTURE AND THERE'S
SO MUCH PROPHETIC FULFILLMENTS, YOU KNOW,
OF JUST ISRAEL, A NATION BEING REBORN.
THERE'S SO MUCH WE COULD GET INTO THERE.
WE'LL GET BACK ONTHE AVATAR.
BUT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND I THINK WHAT I LOVE ABOUTTHE AVATAR IS IT'S
KIND OF, AND YOUR OTHER BOOKS GET INTO THIS
CONCEPT AS WELL, IS JUST THAT WE CAN'T JUST LOOK
INTO THE NATURAL.
WE HAVE TO ALSO HAVE SPIRITUAL EYES TO DISCERN
WHAT'S GOING ON SO THAT WE CAN OPERATE IN WISDOM.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND GOD'S WORD SO THAT WHEN
THESE KIND OF CONFUSING INFORMATION AND BAD MEDIA
AND BAD THEOLOGY COME IN, WE DON'T ALLOW IT TO SWAY US.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO
HATE A GROUP OF PEOPLE IS SOMETHING THAT'S
FRUIT FROM GOD.
THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HATING A GROUP OF PEOPLE
THAT'S NOT BIBLICAL, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S JUST -- GOD IS LOVE, YOU KNOW?
AND SO I LOVE ALL OF YOUR INSIGHT ON THIS.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.
BUT LET'S GO TO CUBA.
SO HOW DID YOU END UP THERE?
WHICH CRAZY STORY,
BECAUSE CUBA --
>> YEAH, WELL, I CAME,
I CAME BACK FROM INDIA AND A GUY COMES FROM CUBA WHO SAYS
FIDEL CASTRO IS OPENING UP THE ISLAND
FOR CHRISTIANS TO HAVE OPEN GATHERINGS
THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND FOR ONE MONTH.
AND WE WANT YOU TO COME AND OPEN IT UP WITH THIS
AND SOUND THE SHOFAR.
SO I CAME AND I DID, AND THEN I MINISTERED
THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND, AND I GOT TO A PLACE, A REGION
CALLED THE ORIENTE, AND THERE WAS A MOUNTAIN
OVER THE CITY ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.
THEY WORSHIP THE GODS, YOU KNOW, IN CUBA YOU THINK,
WELL, IT'S COMMUNIST.
WELL, NO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CATHOLICISM,
AND THERE'S REVIVAL, BUT THERE
IS MORE PEOPLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
THEY WORSHIP THE, THE GODS OF SANTERIA, WHICH ARE
IT'S LIKE THEY APPEAR AS SAINTS, YOU KNOW, BUT
BEHIND THE MASK, THEY'RE ONLY MASKS FOR AFRICAN GODS.
SO THESE ARE THE GODS.
THEY WORSHIP IT ON THE MOUNTAINTOP.
AND THEY OFFER SACRIFICES THERE, YOU KNOW,
ON THIS MOUNTAIN AND CURSES AND ALL THIS STUFF.
AND SO I SAID, OKAY, I GUESS I'M GOING UP ANOTHER
MOUNTAIN, YOU KNOW, SO I GO UP THE MOUNTAIN,
A CURSED MOUNTAIN, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE A,
I HAVE THE SHOFAR.
I GET TO THE TOP AND I SEE THERE'S A PAVILION WITH
ALL THESE IDOLS IN THEM, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE
OF THE GODS AND A GUY STANDING IN FRONT OF IT.
AND HE COMES OVER TO ME AND HE SAYS, HOLA,
HE SOUNDS LIKE HE'S SAYING, HELLO, JONATHAN.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
AND HE SAYS, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU.
AND HE HAS A, A CERAMIC PLATE IN HIS HAND AND THE
PLATE HAS A, HAS A PICTURE ON IT, HAS A PAINTING ON IT.
IT'S A PAINTING OF ME HOLDING THE SHOFAR
THAT I'M HOLDING AS I CAME UP THE MOUNTAIN AND BLOWING IT.
AND THE THING IS, HE SAID, HE SAID, HE SAYS NO.
HE SAYS, I'M A BELIEVER.
HE SAID, GOD, THE SPIRIT OF GOD TOLD ME
TO PAINT THIS PAINTING.
>> WOW.
>> AND HE TOLD ME TO PUT IT INSIDE, HANG IT IN THE
HOUSE OF THE GODS.
AND HE SAID THAT.
HE SAID I DID.
AND THAT NIGHT SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT THE,
THE NEW STRAP JUST BROKE APART AND IT CAME DOWN,
THE PLATE CAME DOWN AND STRUCK THE HEAD OF
THE CHIEF IDOL, THE CHIEF GOD OF CUBA,
AND STRUCK IT DOWN.
AND THE NEXT MORNING THE THE WORSHIPERS OF THE GODS
OPENED UP THEIR, THEIR HOUSE, AND THEY FIND THEIR
CHIEF GOD ON THE FLOOR.
AND NEXT TO IT IS THIS PICTURE OF THIS JEWISH GUY
WITH A SHOFAR.
AND YOU COULD SEE IT WAS CHIPPED JUST WHERE
THE SOUND COMES OUT OF THE SHOFAR.
THE SHOFAR, THE TRUMPET,
STRUCK THE HEAD OF THE GOD OR GODDESS
NAMED OSHUN AND NOT --
AND THE GODDESS HAD A CROWN ON THE IDOL.
IT WAS A CROWN.
THE CROWN WAS TAKEN OFF, WAS REMOVED FROM HER HEAD,
AND THE PEOPLE ON THE MOUNTAIN TOOK IT AS A SIGN.
AND YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING, YOU KNOW,
YOU'RE READING THE BIBLE.
YOU KNOW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS REAL FAMILIAR
BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED WHEN THEY PUT THE ARK OF THE
COVENANT IN THE TEMPLE OF THE GOD DAGON.
IN THE MORNING THEY FOUND THE GOD DAGON ON THE FLOOR.
AND PEOPLE SAY, OH, THAT'S JUST A STORY.
NO, NO, GOD IS REAL.
AND THE THING IS THAT THE WORD CAME DOWN THE MOUNTAIN.
AND THEN WE GOT THE REPORT THAT IN THAT CITY THE
PEOPLE WERE COMING TO THE CHURCHES BRINGING THEIR
IDOLS AND SAYING, SMASH OUR IDOLS.
WE HEARD WHAT HAPPENED ON THE MOUNTAINTOP,
AND REVIVAL BROKE FORTH.
SO AGAIN, HERE WE ARE IN ANOTHER LAND.
AND IT'S THE, IT'S THE GODS.
IT'S ALSO AN INTERESTING THING, YOU KNOW, IN CUBA,
IN INDIA, IT WAS THE SOUND OF THE TRUMPET WHICH
REPRESENTS GOD'S POWER.
WELL, HERE IT WAS THE IMAGE OF A TRUMPET
THAT STRUCK THE HEAD OF THE IDOL.
AND SO, I MEAN, AND WE SAW THIS AND THIS IS
THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
I MEAN, EVERY LAND IN AFRICA, IN NIGERIA,
MIRACLE, ALL THESE THINGS.
BUT WITH THE GODS,
AND THIS ULTIMATELY HAS TO DO WITH AMERICA,
BUT IT'S REAL.
THE GODS ARE REAL OR THE SPIRITS ARE REAL.
>> WHAT DO YOU --
DID THE HOLY SPIRIT TELL YOU TO BLOW THE SHOFAR?
AND WHAT DOES THE SHOFAR REPRESENT?
WHAT'S THE SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT?
>> THE SHOFAR,
THE SHOFAR REPRESENTS THE POWER OF GOD, THE FREEDOM
OF GOD, LIBERATION OF GOD, THE POWER OF GOD AGAINST
THE ENEMY OR ENEMIES IN WARFARE, YOU KNOW.
SO IT REALLY GOES TOGETHER WITH THE SPIRITS WHERE GOD
SAYS, SOUND THE TRUMPET IN WAR AND YOU'LL WIN.
IT'S ALSO THE SOUND OF JUBILEE, YOU KNOW, AND
AGAIN, BEING SET FREE OF RESTORATION, SOUND OF
JERICHO BREAKING DOWN WALLS.
BUT IT REALLY THE SOUND OF THE POWER OF GOD, AND IN
THIS CASE OF GOD AGAINST THE GODS.
AND SO, YEAH, I WAS LED TO SOUND THE SHOFAR.
AND AT KEY TIMES IN MY LIFE I'VE BEEN LED TO DO
THAT AND I'VE SEEN LIKE, IT'S AMAZING.
I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING I KNEW WHAT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT GOD KNEW.
I MEAN, EVEN LISTEN, I WAS LED TO SOUND THE SHOFAR,
YOU KNOW, TO NEW YORK CITY IN 1999.
WE'RE PRAYING FOR NEW YORK CITY BECAUSE WE HAD A
SENSE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A TERRORIST ATTACK
ON NEW YORK CITY.
AND WE'RE PRAYING AND WE GO TO, WE GO TO LIBERTY ISLAND,
THE STATUE OF LIBERTY.
I'M ON THE, THE PEDESTAL AND I SOUND THE SHOFAR
TO NEW YORK.
AND SOMEONE TAKES A PICTURE AND THE SHOFAR IS
TOUCHING THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
IT'S TOUCHING THE NORTH TOWER
EXACTLY WHERE -- IT'S WHERE IT'S ALL, 9/11
IS GOING TO BEGIN, AND IT'S TOUCHING THE EXACT SPOT
WHERE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND THEN I RAISE MY HAND TO DO A BLESSING.
AND SOMEONE, SOMEONE IS, IS RECORDING IT ON THE VIDEO.
AND WE SEE A PLANE COMES AND TAKES THE EXACT IMAGE
OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON 9/11.
AND THE DAY THAT I SOUNDED THE SHOFAR TO NEW YORK CITY
AND THAT IMAGE OF 9/11 HAPPENED,
IT WAS TWO YEARS BEFORE.
IT WAS SEPTEMBER 11TH, TWO YEARS BEFORE.
SO, SOMETHING ALWAYS HAPPENS WITH THE SHOFAR.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE GOD SAID IT'S A SIGN OF HIS POWER,
YOU KNOW, AND WHEN WE, WHEN I SOUND IT ON THE NATIONAL MALL,
SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH TRUMP.
I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING, BUT GOD IS REAL.
>> YEAH.
AND IT JUST REMINDS ME OF, LIKE, ALL THESE STORIES
IN THE BIBLE WHERE GOD WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW,
PROPHETS GO OUT AND BLESS THINGS AND DO THINGS.
THERE IS LIKE THIS SPIRITUAL, IT'S BIBLICAL.
THERE'S THIS SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE WAS
SOUNDING THE SHOFAR IN NEW YORK?
>> WELL, THE SHOFAR IS ALSO THE SOUND OF THE WATCHMAN,
AND THE WATCHMAN SOUNDS THE SHOFAR AS AN
ALARM THAT A DANGER IS COMING OR AN ATTACK
ON THE CITY IS COMING.
AND SO WE HERE WE ARE, AND GOD IS GIVING US LIKE A
GLIMPSE OF THAT ATTACK.
AND IT'S LIKE SAYING, IT'S LIKE A WARNING,
IT'S COMING.
AND THE THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DID
THE WATCHMAN STAND?
HE STOOD AT THE, ON THE WALLS.
AND HE STOOD AT THE GATES, THE GATE, ON TOP OF THE GATES.
WELL, WHERE WERE WE STANDING?
WE WERE STANDING ON LIBERTY ISLAND.
THAT'S THE GATE OF AMERICA.
SO HERE WE ARE SOUNDING THE TRUMPET.
I'M SOUNDING THE WATCHMAN'S TRUMPET.
WARNING OF AN ATTACK TO COME.
AND ON THE CITY.
AND THE ATTACK IS GOING TO COME ON THE CITY.
AND WE ACTUALLY SEE AN IMAGE OF IT TWO YEARS ON
THE DAY BEFORE IT HAPPENS.
AND BY THE WAY, THAT 9/11, YOU KNOW, IN 1999,
IT WAS ALSO THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
>> YEAH.
>> WOW.
>> I MEAN, THIS IS TWO YEARS BEFORE, YOU KNOW,
BUT ON THAT, WHEN WE WERE STANDING ON THE,
ON THE STATUE OF LIBERTY AND SOUNDING IT AND THE
FEAST OF TRUMPETS ARE ABOUT, GET READY BECAUSE
YOU'RE GOING TO STAND BEFORE GOD, JUDGMENT.
>> THAT'S SO POWERFUL.
I FEEL LIKE NEW YORK CITY IS SIGNIFICANT TO KIND OF
SHOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN AMERICA.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE NEWLY-ELECTED MAYOR?
>> YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, MAMDANI, YOU KNOW,
THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE --
I MEAN, YEARS AGO -- IT'S REALLY A SIGN MORE
ABOUT AMERICA.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAN JUST HIM, THAT YEARS AGO,
THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
WE NEVER WOULD HAVE HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS, LIKE,
OPENLY, YOU KNOW, RADICALLY MUSLIM,
RADICAL MUSLIM, LEADING NEW YORK CITY, YOU KNOW, THE CENTER
OF THE JEWISH POPULATION IN AMERICA AND OUTSIDE
OF ISRAEL, AND SOMEONE WHO'S ALSO A RADICAL SOCIALIST
LEADING THE FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
IT'S REALLY A SIGN OF WHERE WE'VE GONE.
AND REMEMBER SOMETHING.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS
BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS BEGIN IN NEW YORK, YOU KNOW,
THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'VE HAD,
I MEAN, YOU HAD 9/11 IN NEW YORK.
YOU HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE
ECONOMIC CRASHES, YOU KNOW, NEW YORK.
YOU HAVE THE LGBT MOVEMENT.
NEW YORK IS WHERE IT BEGAN.
YOU HAVE PRAYER TAKEN OUT OF SCHOOL, ONE OF THE KEY
CASES, NEW YORK.
>> IT'S A GATEWAY CITY.
>> YOU HAVE ABORTION CAPITAL OF AMERICA, NEW YORK.
YOU KNOW, COVID WHEN IT CAME, THE CAPITAL
WAS NEW YORK.
YOU KNOW, SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU BRING
THIS UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT
WHAT JUST HAPPENED, BUT THIS CAN BE, YOU KNOW,
THINGS COME THROUGH THE GATE AND NEW YORK IS
THE GATE OF AMERICA.
SO COULD THIS BE SPEAKING OF SOMETHING ALSO
THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN?
>> OH, MAN.
OH, NO.
IT'S OKAY.
WE CAN TRUST IN THE LORD.
BUT WHAT WOULD YOUR MESSAGE BE TO THE CHURCH?
I MEAN, EVEN WITH THE AVATAR TALKING ABOUT
EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOME
CHRISTIANS SEE THAT AND THEY GET MAD, SOME PEOPLE
GET DEFEATED, SOME PEOPLE FEEL APATHETIC.
THIS IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.
THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT.
WHAT WOULD YOUR MESSAGE TO THE CHURCH BE?
>> WELL, WE ARE, WE ARE LIVING IN DRAMATIC TIMES
AND THESE ARE PROPHETIC TIMES.
AND IT'S NOT A THING TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO GET
ANGRY AT PEOPLE.
AND IT'S NOT A THING,
I MEAN, GET ANGRY AT SIN AND EVIL, BUT NOT PEOPLE.
IT'S NOT A THING TO GET, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING BEFORE,
YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME
OF THIS POLITICAL THING COULD BECOME IDOLATRY
AS YOU, AS YOU'RE SAYING HERE.
AND IT'S NOT TO GET OFF THE TRACK, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE THERE ARE BELIEVERS WHO'VE GOTTEN
OFF THE TRACK ON THIS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER
WHO WE ARE.
NUMBER ONE, WE'RE NOT OF THE WORLD, BUT WE ARE OF
A BETTER PLACE, AND WE ARE IN THE WORLD
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
WE'RE IN THE WORLD TO BE A LIGHT.
AND ALSO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT ON THE
LOSING SIDE, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE POLLS MAY
SAY THAT.
CNN MAY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THE
MINORITY IN ALL THE CULTURE.
YOU ARE NOT.
YOU ARE ON THE WINNING SIDE.
WE ARE ON THE WINNING SIDE.
AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT, AND WE HAVE
TO ACT LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON'T SEE IT,
THAT'S WHY WE GO BY FAITH.
BUT WE ARE, AND THE POWER OF GOD IS GREATER
AND THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE.
AND SO BUT THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE AMERICA
IS REVIVAL.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL REALM
CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, CAN OPEN THE DOOR.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
THE ANSWER IS ONLY GOD AND ONLY THROUGH REVIVAL.
>> THAT'S SUCH A GOOD POINT.
AND SO IT'S LIKE INSTEAD OF GETTING APATHETIC, IT'S
LIKE, GET INTO YOUR PRAYER CLOSET, START PRAYING.
>> YEAH, ALL THE MORE.
>> LET IT LIGHT YOU ON FIRE AND BE PROACTIVE.
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE INFLUENCE AS THE CHURCH.
IT'S JUST THE ENEMY DOESN'T WANT US --
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THE WEST, THE ENEMY WANTS
TO LULL CHRISTIANS ASLEEP, YOU KNOW, TO BE APATHETIC
IN THEIR FAITH BECAUSE WE'RE COMFORTABLE,
BECAUSE WE HAVE FREEDOM.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERSECUTED CHURCH
THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN NIGERIA
AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
IT'S LIKE IN CHINA, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF HIGH LEADERS,
HIGH-UP LEADERS IN THE CHURCH IN CHINA
WERE TAKEN BY THE GOVERNMENT RECENTLY.
WHEN YOU FOCUS ON WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE AND
YOU SEE THEIR FAITH, HOW ON FIRE THEY ARE FOR GOD
AND HOW UNCOMPROMISING, YOU KNOW,
IN THE WEST, IT'S LIKE WE FIGHT A DIFFERENT
KIND OF BATTLE.
WE'RE NOT BEING PERSECUTED THE SAME, BUT WE'RE HAVING
TO FIGHT SEDUCTION FROM THE ENEMY, DISTRACTION
FROM THE ENEMY, APATHY.
AND SO HOPEFULLY EVENTS LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON IN
NEW YORK CITY CAN KIND OF WAKE THE CHURCH UP, KIND
OF LIKE HOW COVID DID, KIND OF HOW THESE -- AND REALLY
WITH THE ELECTION OF TRUMP FOR BELIEVERS NOT TO
BECOME COMPLACENT, WELL, OH, HE'S PRESIDENT,
SO NOW I CAN JUST BE CALM.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT?
>> YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE POINT OF, AND THIS GOES INTO SOME
OF THE MYSTERIES INTHE AVATAR, THE MYSTERY OF JEHU,
WHICH WE CAN GET INTO.
BUT THE THING IS THAT TRUMP --
>> YEAH, GET INTO IT.
>> THE ANSWER IS NOT -- THE ANSWER --
YOU KNOW, TRUMP IS USED BY GOD, YOU KNOW.
BUT TRUMP IS NOT THE ANSWER.
THE ANSWER IS GOD.
THE ANSWER IS JESUS.
BUT TRUMP IS USED, BUT HE'S NOT THE ANSWER.
SO THE THING IS THAT, WELL, LET ME -- OKAY.
THE ANSWER, LET ME GET INTO THE JEHU THING.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT, OPENED UP
IN THE, INTHE AVATAR, IS THIS REALLY AMAZING MYSTERY
FROM THE BIBLE THAT IS ACTUALLY LIKE,
IT'S A TEMPLATE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
IN AMERICA
EXACTLY, SPECIFICALLY.
AND THAT IS THAT THERE IS A TIME THAT AMERICA THAT --
WELL, ANCIENT ISRAEL WAS FALLING AWAY FROM GOD,
AND IT HAD CERTAIN KINGS AND QUEENS.
AND THE AMAZING THING IS, EACH KING OR QUEEN
HOLDS A MYSTERY TO AN AMERICAN LEADER.
SO BEHIND THE AMERICAN LEADER, REALLY, JUST ABOUT
ALL OF THE MAJOR AMERICAN LEADERS OF
THE LAST GENERATION,
I MEAN, UP TO NOW, THERE IS THIS ANCIENT MYSTERY
FROM THE BIBLE OF SOMEONE, A KING, OR A QUEEN,
WHO REPRESENTS THEM AND WHO FORESHADOWS THEM.
AND IT'S AMAZING BECAUSE IT'S SO SPECIFIC.
IT NOT ONLY FORETELLS THE PERSON, THEIR NATURE,
WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THEIR ACTIONS.
IT FORETELLS EVEN HOW MUCH TIME THEY WILL HAVE
ON THE NATIONAL POLITICAL STAGE.
AND EVERYBODY FROM BILL CLINTON TO BARACK OBAMA
TO HILLARY CLINTON TO KAMALA HARRIS TO DONALD TRUMP,
JOE BIDEN, DONALD --
WELL, YEAH, IT'S AMAZING.
AND IN SOME CASES, IT EVEN GIVES EXACT DATES.
LIKE THIS, THIS TEMPLATE ACTUALLY FORESHADOWED
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON 9/11,
BUT NOT JUST WHAT WOULD HAPPEN,
THE ACTUAL, EXACT DAY IT WOULD HAPPEN
AND THE EXACT HOUR IT WOULD BEGIN.
AND THIS WAS, YOU COULD HAVE KNOWN IT YEARS BEFORE.
>> WOW.
>> AND SO THE THING, IT'S ALL THERE.
AND THE THING IS THAT TRUMP THE MYSTERY OF TRUMP,
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGSTHE AVATAR IS,
LIKE, CENTERING ON, IS THAT THERE'S AN ANCIENT KING
WHOSE NAME IS JEHU, AND JEHU IS THE MYSTERY OF
DONALD TRUMP FOR AMERICA.
JEHU WAS NOT A POLITICIAN.
DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A POLITICIAN.
JEHU WAS WILD, WAS UNPREDICTABLE.
DONALD TRUMP, JEHU.
YOU NEVER KNEW WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO NEXT.
JEHU.
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW HOW DONALD TRUMP BEGAN
HIS POLITICAL CAREER,
YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW IT,
ON TOP OF THAT STAIRCASE, HE CAME, HE CAME DOWN
THE STAIRCASE AND THEN HE --
THEN HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE BEGAN HIS RACE
TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
WELL, JEHU BEGAN ON TOP OF THE STAIRCASE AND
HE ANNOUNCED, IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS
GOING TO GO.
AND THEN HE COMES DOWN THE STAIRCASE AND THEN HE
BEGINS A RACE TO THE THRONE.
SO TRUMP BEGINS THE SAME RACE THERE.
NOW, WHEN JEHU MAKES HIS RACE TO THE THRONE,
HE MAKES AN ALLIANCE WITH THE RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES
OF ISRAEL.
SO DONALD TRUMP MAKES AN ALLIANCE WITH RELIGIOUS
CONSERVATIVES OF AMERICA.
AND IN ORDER TO, AND YOU KNOW, AND WHEN HE COMES TO
THE CAPITAL CITY, YOU KNOW WHAT JEHU, HIS AGENDA IS?
TO DRAIN THE SWAMP.
WELL, DONALD TRUMP.
AND THEN WHEN JEHU, IN ORDER TO COME TO POWER,
HE HAS TO CONTEND AGAINST
THE NATION'S FORMER FIRST LADY.
SO DONALD TRUMP, IN ORDER TO COME TO POWER, HAS TO
COME AGAINST THE NATION'S FORMER FIRST LADY.
IN THE CASE OF THE BIBLE, IT WAS JEZEBEL.
IN THE CASE OF AMERICA, IT WAS HILLARY CLINTON.
AND NOW THE THING IS, HILLARY CLINTON HAD BEEN
ON THE NATIONAL POLITICAL STAGE WITH HER HUSBAND
FOR 22 YEARS, AND ON HER OWN,
YOU KNOW, SHE WAS IN IN PUBLIC OFFICE
FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS.
AND THEN SHE RAN FOR PRESIDENT FOR TWO YEARS.
IT COMES DOWN TO 14 YEARS.
WELL, SO IT WAS 14 YEARS ON HER OWN, 22 YEARS WITH
HER HUSBAND.
WELL, JEZEBEL WAS ON THE NATIONAL POLITICAL STAGE
OF ISRAEL FOR 22 YEARS WITH HER HUSBAND,
14 YEARS ON HER OWN.
AND HER DOWNFALL COMES WHEN SHE CAN --
WHEN JEHU CONTENDS AGAINST HER.
SO THIS LIKE, IT'S AN AMAZING THING, REBECCA, IS THAT
THIS TEMPLATE JUST KEEPS ON COMING TRUE AGAIN
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN UP TO THIS DAY.
BECAUSE WHAT DID JEHU DO?
WELL, JEHU, HE PURGES THE GOVERNMENT.
I MEAN, HE LITERALLY, HE GETS RID OF ALL
THE HOUSE OF AHAB.
WHAT HAS DONALD TRUMP BEEN DOING?
HE'S BEEN PURGING THE GOVERNMENT.
AND JEHU WAS ALSO SOMEONE WHO DEMOLISHED, YOU KNOW,
HE BREAKS DOWN STRUCTURES, THE TEMPLE OF BAAL
AND THESE EVIL THINGS.
WELL, TRUMP HAS BEEN DISMANTLING THE SAME THING.
I MEAN, HE LITERALLY DISMANTLED PART OF THE
WHITE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF IT.
BUT JEHU, YOU KNOW, WAS ON ONE HAND, HE
WAS A JUDGMENT FOR THOSE WHO WERE AGAINST GOD
IN THE NATION.
AND TRUMP IS THAT, FOR THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST GOD.
BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE FOR GOD,
JEHU WAS A CHAMPION, AND HE DEFENDED THEM,
AND HE WAS LIKE, HE WAS A CHANCE.
IT WAS LIKE GOD GIVING THE NATION A CHANCE TO COME BACK.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
AND BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, I TALKED ABOUT THE AMAZING
THING ABOUT THIS, WHAT I'M SEEKING TO DO
INTHE AVATAR, IT'S MANY MYSTERIES.
BUT THIS MYSTERY TO OPEN UP, IS TO SHOW HOW
EACH THING HAS COME TRUE AND WHERE IT'S GOING.
WELL, THIS ONE, THIS MYSTERY HAS HOW LONG EACH
LEADER WILL BE ON THE NATIONAL POLITICAL STAGE.
WHAT ABOUT TRUMP?
WELL, TRUMP'S KIND OF ALWAYS BEEN AROUND.
HE'S LIKE DIFFERENT.
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN AROUND, YOU KNOW.
BUT WHEN DID HE ACTUALLY ENTER THE NATIONAL,
POLITICAL OR PRESIDENTIAL STATE?
WELL, PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL, 2016 OR 2015,
BUT THE ANSWER IS ACTUALLY THE YEAR 2000, BECAUSE IN
THE YEAR 2000, TRUMP -- PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS.
I MEAN, SOME DO, BUT WAS ACTUALLY A CANDIDATE
FOR THE PRESIDENCY FOR THE FIRST TIME.
IT WAS ON THE REFORM PARTY AND HE ACTUALLY HAD A CAMPAIGN.
IT WAS CALLED TRUMP 2000, AND HE ACTUALLY WON THE
CALIFORNIA PRIMARY.
YOU KNOW, SO LITERALLY THIS IS IN 2000.
THAT'S WHEN -- THAT'S WHEN THIS --
SO THE CLOCK BEGINS IN 2000 WHEN HE ENTERS
THIS POLITICAL REALM.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS GOING TO BE HIS LAST YEAR?
HIS LAST YEAR THAT'S APPOINTED TO HIM IS 2028
LAST FULL YEAR, 2028.
WELL, SO THAT'S HOW MANY YEARS.
THAT'S 28 YEARS.
IT'S EVEN CALLED THE YEAR 28.
WELL OPEN THE BIBLE AND IT SAYS JEHU WAS ON
THE NATIONAL STAGE FOR 28 YEARS.
THE EXACT AMOUNT.
>> WOW.
HOW DOES IT END WITH JEHU?
>> THAT'S A GREAT -- THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
BECAUSE, OKAY, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO IT.
BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, JEHU WAS USED OF GOD AND HE WAS
AN INSTRUMENT OF GOD, YOU KNOW,
AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
AND TRUMP IS AN INSTRUMENT OF GOD.
BUT JEHU WAS ALSO, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE HIS HEART WAS AT.
IN OTHER WORDS, JEHU WAS A MIX.
YOU KNOW, JEHU, THE BIBLE SAYS, DID ALL THESE THINGS
THAT WERE GREAT.
HE DROVE OUT BAAL AND ALL THAT.
AND BY THE WAY, BAAL WORSHIP INVOLVED CHILD SACRIFICE.
DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL,
HE'S THE KEY PERSON IN OVERTURNING ROE VERSUS WADE.
I MEAN, JUST LIKE JEHU DID WITH BAAL.
BUT JEHU WAS MIXED.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, HE FOLLOWED GOD, BUT HE
ALSO DID HIS OWN THING.
AND HE ALSO ALSO KEPT UP THE GOLDEN CALF.
HE NEVER DESTROYED IT.
AND SO IT SAYS THAT GOD, ON ONE HAND, BLESSED HIM.
HE COMMANDED, HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO THE ENTIRE
HISTORY OF THE NORTHERN KINGDOM WHO IS COMMENDED BY GOD.
THAT'S THE GOOD PART.
BUT HE'S ALSO CORRECTED, AND HE'S ALSO REBUKED
BECAUSE HE DIDN'T FOLLOW GOD WITH ALL HIS HEART.
SO THE, THE WARNING OR THE CALL THAT WE
NEED TO PRAY FOR IS, YOU KNOW, TRUMP HAS BEEN USED
OF GOD, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE FULL WILL OF GOD
WILL ONLY HAPPEN IF HE GIVES HIMSELF TOTALLY TO GOD
AND TOTALLY TO HIS PURPOSES.
BECAUSE IF HE DOESN'T, AS YOU SAID, I MEAN, THINGS
CAN GET MIXED IN, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THINGS CAN BECOME IDOLS.
YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE ONE THING, THE ONE THING
JEHU DIDN'T DO IS HE DIDN'T TAKE DOWN THAT IDOL.
WELL, THINGS CAN BECOME IDOLS, EVEN GOOD THINGS.
I MEAN, EVEN, YOU KNOW, AMERICAN POLITICAL,
YOU KNOW, POLITICAL REALM COULD BECOME AN IDOL AS WELL.
SO WE'VE GOT TO PRAY FOR THAT.
YOU SEE, THE REASON FOR JEHU IS GOD WAS
GIVING THE NATION A CHANCE TO COME BACK TO HIM.
IT WAS A WINDOW FOR REVIVAL.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
TRUMP IS PART OF A WINDOW.
IT'S NOT ABOUT TRUMP.
IT WASN'T ABOUT JEHU.
IT'S NOT ABOUT EVEN THE WINDOW.
IT'S ABOUT GOD AND REVIVAL.
THE WINDOW, WE'VE GOT A WINDOW OF TIME
RIGHT NOW, AND THE ONLY
THING THAT CAN SAVE AMERICA IS REVIVAL.
ONLY THING.
WITHOUT REVIVAL WE'RE LOST,
YOU SEE, BECAUSE IF WE CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT,
BUT WE DON'T CHANGE PEOPLE'S HEARTS,
THE UNCHANGED HEARTS ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT BACK.
AND IF WE DRIVE OUT THE GODS.
AND BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WE DRIVE OUT, YOU KNOW,
THE AGENDA OF THE GODS, BUT WE DON'T FILL IT
WITH GOD'S PRESENCE,
THOSE GODS ARE COMING BACK.
AND SO WE ARE IN SUCH A CRITICAL TIME.
WE GOTTA PRAY FOR REVIVAL AS NEVER BEFORE.
WE GOTTA LIVE FOR REVIVAL.
WE GOT TO PROCLAIM REVIVAL AS NEVER BEFORE.
IF MY PEOPLE, CALLED BY MY NAME.
THAT'S WHAT THE MOMENT IS RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT'S SUCH A GOOD WORD.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO ADD ON TO THAT, WE HAVE TO
FILL IT WITH GOD.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS FIGHT
WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT AND
THEY SEE THESE VICTORIES, THEY THINK, OKAY,
LET'S CONTINUE TO SPREAD CONSERVATISM.
BUT WE AS CHRISTIANS AREN'T CALLED, WE'RE NOT
CONSERVATIVES FIRST.
THAT'S NOT OUR IDENTITY.
OUR IDENTITY IS WE'RE CHILDREN OF GOD, AND WE
SERVE GOD AND WE SPREAD HIS KINGDOM.
WE'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO SPREAD MORALS.
AND SO I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THE CHURCH
TO NOT TRY TO PUT THEIR HOPE IN A PERSON, BUT PUT
THEIR HOPE IN GOD AND NOT TRY TO SPREAD A MOVEMENT
OF MORALS, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN SUPPORT THAT,
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT THAT WE WOULD FILL THIS
NATION WITH THE PRESENCE OF GOD BY PEOPLE GETTING
SAVED, ENTERING THE KINGDOM AND BEING
DISCIPLED, AND CONTINUE TO BE IN A STATE OF HUMILITY
AND REPENTANCE AND PRAYER BEFORE GOD.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO CAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE
EFFECT OF CHANGE.
SO I LOVE THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT,
BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT THESE THINGS ARE BAD.
I'M NOT HATING ON THOSE THINGS.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE CHRISTIANS FIRST,
WE'RE BELIEVERS FIRST.
WE'RE CHILDREN OF GOD.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT.
IT'S NOT AN AFFILIATION TO A POLITICAL PARTY.
AND IT'S NOT PUTTING OUR HOPE IN A PERSON.
WE CAN'T PUT OUR HOPE IN PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO LEARN.
YOUR HOPE CAN ONLY BE IN GOD.
IF YOU PUT YOUR HOPE IN A PERSON, THEY'RE GONNA --
IT'S GOING TO FAIL.
AND SO I LOVE THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE
REALLY, YOU KNOW, EQUIPPING --
NOT ONLY ARE YOU GIVING THIS PROFOUND MESSAGE OF
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD AND HOW
IT'S AFFECTING THE NATURAL, BUT YOU'RE
HELPING EQUIP THE CHURCH WITH THE MESSAGE OF THE
IMPORTANCE OF REVIVAL AND PUTTING OUR HOPE AND FAITH
FULLY IN GOD, AND NOT BECOMING APATHETIC OR
PUTTING OUR HEAD IN THE SAND OR BECOMING
DEFENSIVE, BUT BEING PEOPLE OF PURPOSE.
SO I LOVE THAT.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S ABSOLUTE.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
POLITICAL THINGS.
THERE'S A POLITICAL REALM AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE
TOUCHING EVERY REALM.
BUT WE DON'T GET OUR STRENGTH FROM THAT REALM.
WE GET OUR STRENGTH FROM GOD AND WE TOUCH THE REALM.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SUPPORT MOVEMENTS OR
SUPPORT CAUSES AS MUCH AS THEY LINE UP WITH THE BIBLE.
BUT WE DON'T PUT, AS YOU SAID, WE DON'T PUT
OUR TRUST IN THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE PUT OUR TRUST IN GOD ONLY.
IT SAYS THAT IN THE BIBLE, YOU KNOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE BEING CALLED CONSERVATIVE NOW ONLY
BECAUSE THE VALUES THAT ARE TRYING TO CONSERVE,
MOST OF THEM ARE FROM JUDEO-CHRISTIAN ROOTS,
THAT'S WHY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ANY MOVEMENT, AS WE'VE SEEN,
YOU KNOW, TO EVEN THE RIGHT, THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT,
CAN GO OFF IF IT'S NOT CENTERED ON GOD.
GOD IS OUR ONLY HOPE.
>> YEAH, HE'S OUR ONLY HOPE.
BUT ABOUT THESE ENTITIES, THINKING ABOUT JEZEBEL.
YOU WERE IN CUBA.
OSHUN, WHO IS THAT?
SANTERIA, RIGHT?
>> YEP.
>> OKAY.
WHAT IN YOUR OPINION,
I'M NOT SAYING IF IT'S FACT,
JUST IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT DO YOU THINK THESE
ENTITIES ARE EVEN LIKE,
WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE, THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT,
THESE ARE THE SAME ANCIENT ENTITIES THAT THE GENTILE
NATIONS WORSHIPED.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND IN THE NEW
TESTAMENT, ARE THESE,
DO YOU BELIEVE THESE ARE FALLEN ANGELS?
ARE THESE WHAT THE BIBLE DESCRIBES, THE FALLEN ANGELS,
WHAT THEY KIND OF DESCRIBE AS THE SONS OF GOD?
ARE THESE DEMONS? LIKE, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THAT?
>> WELL, THEY ARE DEFINITELY DEMONIC.
THE WORD THAT'S USED FOR THIS IN THE HEBREW, AGAIN,
IS SHEDIM.
AND SHEDIM MEANS IT SAYS, THEY WORSHIPED.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WORSHIPING THE GODS,
BUT IT SAYS THEY'RE WORSHIPING THE SHEDIM.
BEHIND THE GODS ARE SHEDIM.
THE SHEDIM LITERALLY MEANS THE DESTROYERS, BUT IT
SPEAKS OF SPIRITS.
IT SPEAKS OF DARK SPIRITS.
AND, AGAIN, WHAT WE GET IN DEMONIC.
IN FACT, AGAIN, WHEN IT WAS TRANSLATED INTO THE GREEK
AND INTO THE NEW TESTAMENT, IT BECAME
THE WORD, DEMONIA.
AND WE GET THE WORD DEMON FROM IT, IN FACT.
AND PAUL USES IT THE SAME WAY.
IT SAYS THEY'RE WORSHIPING DEMONS, OR DEVILS,
YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S THE WORD
DEMONIA, IT'S SHEDIM.
SO THESE ARE DEFINITELY DEMONIC.
AND IT'S SAYING, WHAT THE BIBLE IS SAYING IS BEHIND
THE GODS ARE THIS.
AND FOR THOSE WHO FOR MAY NOT HAVE READ
THE RETURN OF THE GODS, THE PRINCIPLE IS
THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DRIVE GOD OUT, YOU KNOW,
WE'RE A JUDEO --
WE WERE A JUDEO-CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION.
IF YOU DRIVE GOD OUT, THEN YOU'RE CREATING A VACUUM
AND THE VACUUM IS GOING TO BE FILLED BY THESE,
BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT BY GOD, IT'S GOING TO BE THESE GODS.
AND THAT'S WHAT --
AND THE AMAZING THING IS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY, IF
YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY ONE OF THE
THINGS I OPEN UP IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY
NAME THESE ONES BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE EXACT SAME
THINGS THAT THESE ANCIENT PRINCIPALITIES OR GODS
OR GODDESSES WERE LINKED TO IN ANCIENT TIMES.
IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW.
>> IT'S THE SAME ONES.
>> WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN, CHILD
SACRIFICE, MOLECH, WHETHER IT IS DRIVING GOD OUT OF
THE CULTURE AND PAGANIZING IT, BAAL, OR WHETHER IT IS,
YOU KNOW, THE CONFUSION OF GENDER, YOU KNOW,
AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FROM
THE GODDESS ISHTAR, WHOSE KEY MONTH WAS JUNE,
YOU KNOW, WHICH IS PRIDE MONTH,
YOU KNOW.
SO IT'S ALL REPLAYING.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE GOD OUT.
YOU'RE OPENING THE DOOR AND JESUS WARNED ABOUT IT.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK.
>> WOW.
THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT YOUR BOOKS.
LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AVATAR, BUT THEY ALL
CONNECT AND THEY ALL KIND OF BUILD ON TOP
OF ONE ANOTHER.
SO IF SOMEONE'S NEW TO YOUR CONTENT, THEY COULD
HONESTLY START FROM THE BEGINNING AND JUST GO
THROUGH BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN A SEQUENCE,
EVEN THOUGH I DON'T THINK YOU INTENDED TO DO THAT.
I THINK IT WAS JUST A GOD THING, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
YEAH, I DIDN'T PLAN THAT.
BUT I SEE IT LIKE NOW, YOU CAN SEE IT KIND OF
LIKE WOVEN TOGETHER.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
YEAH.
>> YEAH. OKAY.
WELL, THIS HAS BEEN SUCH AN INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW.
FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET CONNECTED TO YOU,
WHERE DO THEY GO?
>> YEAH.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MENTIONED,
IT'S YOUTUBE, JONATHAN CAHN ON YOUTUBE.
BUT MAKE SURE IT SAYS OFFICIAL ON IT, MAKE SURE
THERE'S OVER A MILLION.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF AI JONATHAN CAHN CONTENT OUT THERE.
>> THERE'S A MILLION OF THEM.
AND SO WE KEEP -- SO THAT'S FAKE.
THE ONLY ONE IF IT SAYS OFFICIAL AND HAS
A MILLION SUBSCRIBERS.
SO THAT'S THERE.
THE MINISTRY I REPRESENT AS FAR AS GETTING THE GOSPEL OUT
AND ALL MY MESSAGES ARE THERE AND ALL
THAT IS CALLED HOPE OF THE WORLD.
AND THEY SEND OUT, THEY'LL SEND OUT FREE, ALL SORTS OF
GIFTS AND SPECIAL THINGS.
BUT IT'S HOPEOFTHEWORLD.ORG.
IF YOU GO ONLINE, IT'S HOPEOFTHEWORLD.ORG.
THE AVATAR IS LITERALLY EVERYWHERE AND, YOU KNOW,
IT'S EVERYWHERE.
IT'S ON AMAZON, LOOKS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW,
SO IF YOU GO ONLINE IT'S GOT TO LOOK LIKE THAT.
DON'T GET IT CONFUSED WITH THE MOVIE,
THE MOVIEAVATAR.
IT'S NOT GOING TO SAVE YOU.
>> NOT CONNECTED AT ALL.
>> YES.
NOT AT ALL.
YEAH.
SO, YEAH, I'M ALL OVER, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW.
>> YES, WE DEFINITELY, WHEN WE RELEASE THIS VIDEO,
WE SHOULD, YOU CAN COLLAB THE CHANNELS.
SO THEN WHEN MY VIEWERS SEE IT THEY CAN GO
STRAIGHT TO YOUR CHANNEL.
SO WE SHOULD DO THAT.
BUT, YEAH, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CAN YOU END WITH A PRAYER JUST FOR EVERYONE
WHO'S WATCHING?
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
LORD, WE JUST PRAISE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME
TO SPEAK OF YOU, LORD.
IT'S AN HONOR.
IT'S A JOY, LORD.
WE JUST LOVE YOU AND PRAISE YOU.
FATHER, WE PRAY FOR REVIVAL FOR AMERICA.
WHATEVER IT TAKES, LORD, BRING REVIVAL TO THIS NATION.
LORD, THAT'S WHAT WE ASK, LORD, MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
BRING REVIVAL.
WE PRAISE YOU.
WE LOVE YOU, LORD.
LORD, WHATEVER IT TAKES.
THAT'S WHAT WE ASK FOR.
THAT IN THIS WINDOW THAT WE HAVE,
LORD, THERE WOULD BE TRUE REVIVAL FROM WASHINGTON
TO THE HEARTLAND, LORD, TO THE YOUNG, TO ALL, LORD,
AND TOUCH THE WORLD.
AND WE PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM, FATHER.
AND, LORD, I ASK YOUR BLESSING ON
MY SISTER REBECCA.
FATHER, IN EVERY WAY, LORD, AND JONATHAN, LORD, AND
THEIR FAMILY, CONTINUE TO BLESS THEM.
BLESS DAYSTAR.
YOUR PURPOSES, FATHER.
AND WE ASK, LORD, JUST FOR GREATER THINGS YET TO COME.
LORD, ANOINT EVERYONE WHO'S LISTENING,
LORD, TO BE STRONG AND NOT ONLY TO PRAY
FOR REVIVAL, BUT TO ACTUALLY LIVE IN REVIVAL.
AND LORD, WE KNOW IF WE LIVE IN REVIVAL,
THE REVIVAL BEGINS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO THIS DAY.
WE PRAISE YOU AND LOVE YOU IN THE NAME OF YESHUA,
JESUS THE MESSIAH.
AMEN.
>> AMEN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU, REBECCA.
ALWAYS A JOY.
GOD BLESS YOU.
>> SAME TO YOU.