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This program is made
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of the God called partners
of Renner Ministries.
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Hello, my name is Denise Renner,
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and I am so glad that
you're with me today.
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And of course, I'm not here by myself.
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I have an amazing guest with me
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and she's written an amazing book,
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and it's called God's Heart for Women.
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And we've been talking about the truth that is in this book.
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And I want you to welcome
with me Rhonda Garver.
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Rhonda, thank you so much.
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Aw, thank you. And I
appreciate the opportunity
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to share these truths with the,
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with your audience. I'm excited.
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Rhonda, I'm so thankful for your book.
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Thank you for everything it took for you to write this book,
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do this study. I'm so grateful - Thank you, thank you.
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And I want you to have this book.
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And also with this book,
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you can get the five part video series
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or a study guide on
this very same subject,
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God's Heart for Women.
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And we've just been
talking about all kinds
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of things from starting with Genesis,
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and we're going to Revelation.
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And I think that's awesome
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because God's heart is for
women all through Genesis.
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Yes.
To Revelation, right?
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Absolutely. - So, so we need to study this.
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We need to know this.
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And if you need prayer, please let us know
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how we can be praying for you.
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We see lots
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of miracles in our ministry when people call in for prayer.
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And also if you'd like to make
a comment, we'd love to know
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what it is that's going on in your heart
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or mind through these programs.
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But I don't wanna take too much more time
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because I want us to get started
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with this great subject
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so you could learn what your heart looks like to God
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and how he has empowered you.
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It's time for big miracles
and changes in your life.
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Join Denise Renner
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and dive into the study of God's
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to strengthen faith, inspire, change,
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heal physically and spiritually.
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And most importantly, help
you learn about the power
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of Christ Jesus living in you.
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It's time with Denise Renner.
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So Rhonda, I just love these teachings
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because we did start in Genesis.
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We did.
And,
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and Genesis is so
important to start there.
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Yes. - Because first we
see that God, of course,
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created the heavens of the
earth, but then he made man.
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Yeah.
And but not just man
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because Eve was inside of man.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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It doesn't refer to him as either male
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or female until he separates them.
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So they were created together in the image
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of God together.
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They were given dominion and
authority over the earth.
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And so he meant it for both
of us, male and female.
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And Rhonda, you said something real profound right there.
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You said he gave men and women - Yes
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dominion over the earth. And I was not raised like that.
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Yeah.
I was raised to believe
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that God only gave this
powerful place to men.
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Yeah. - And that we women,
we were just a little helpmate
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that came alongside.
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Yes. - And, and we are a helpmate, but,
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but that word helpmate has a
completely different meaning
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as you studied the language than
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what I believed almost all of my life.
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Yes. - Would, would you tell us about that?
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Yeah. It's an adding of
our power, our authority,
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our energies on behalf.
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It has nothing to do with
being weak or inferior.
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Matter of fact, it's a use
that, a word that God uses
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to describe himself -
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16 out of 21 times
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that word is used in the Old Testament,
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it refers to God himself as our helper.
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So there's no way you could say that the helper is inferior
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to the one being helped.
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Yeah.
No, in, in the case of God,
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he was way more powerful.
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But he is just here to
help us to, to make up
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for us where we're weak.
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Wow. And that is what women do.
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Wow. - We make up where there's a weakness
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where they're not strong
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or where they were lacking something.
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Wow - We can add our power on their behalf.
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And it has nothing to do
with being weak or inferior
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or less than.
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In fact, it's amazing
to me that God calls us
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what he calls himself.
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So the very first thing
he calls a woman is a
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name he calls himself.
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So he didn't call us to control,
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but he called us to, to add - Yes.
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To add our supply on behalf of our husbands.
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And, and God didn't see us as the lesser
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It came alongside the
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husband.
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No. It's a powerful
advocate, a powerful partner,
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a powerful teammate
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who can add their strength
with your strength.
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And together you're way
stronger than you ever
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would've been on your own.
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Now wouldn't that be that wisdom of God
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to have two strong ones?
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Yes. And - Not just one strong
one and one weak one. Yes.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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I mean, just in my own ministry,
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I have women in my ministry.
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Well, I want them at
least as strong as I am.
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Yes. - And I want them stronger than me. Yeah.
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I want them more powerful,
more smarter than me.
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Yeah. - And because when
they come with their supply
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Right.
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We get more done. That's
right. The two of you together
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Are more powerful than
either of you would be alone.
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Women, we should, our minds
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should be renewed to the truth
that we are not the lesser
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But, but we we are equipped.
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Yes.
And gifted.
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Yeah.
And that God wants us
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to come up alongside our husband. Yes.
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A hundred percent. Yeah.
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And you know, I've heard
people say, you know,
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he didn't make you over him.
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You did, he'd make you under him,
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but he took a rib from him.
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We And you even said on one
program. Yeah. How did you say
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that? - The word is in the Hebrew is tsela_T-S-E-L-A
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and it means perhaps a rib,
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but up to one half of Adam
that God took to make eve.
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So basically he split 'em,
and of the one made two
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and fashioned them a little
differently, of course,
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to facilitate reproduction.
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And yet he, they're of the same substance.
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They were created at the same time.
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So there's no problem with creation order
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'cause sometimes people say creation order equals dominance,
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but we really don't mean that.
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Or else every frog should lead us all
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because the animals were created first.
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Yes,
That's true. So we can't say
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that creation order equals rank,
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or we should all be following the frogs,
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which we don't believe.
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But we were created at the
same time of the same thing.
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The one was just later divided into two.
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So, well, and then Adam looked at Eve
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and said, your flesh of my flesh. Yes.
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Your bone of my bone.
Yeah. The other half of me.
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I love that. Yeah. Yeah.
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And, and another powerful thing I know
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that we've said on these programs, and I just love it, is
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because it's absolute truth of marriage that, so
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Eve was inside of Adam.
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Yes. But then God took eve out of Adam.
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And in the act, Mary's intimacy, that
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that is where the two who who got divided.
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Yes. - That is where the two become one.
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Yes. It's meant to be a beautiful picture, a metaphor
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of how it was in the
garden when the two were
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together in one.
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Now we're together again
in a little different way,
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but together as one
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nonetheless. It's a picture of what God meant
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for it to be in the garden.
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It is so powerful. Yeah.
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And I know that's why God calls it holy
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Yeah.
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Matrimony.
Yes.
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Because what he sees when a husband
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and wife come together in
that, in that intimate union,
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sexual union.
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Yes. - He sees, he sees a holy matrimony.
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He sees a oneness of them coming
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together.
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And that's why he said, what God has
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joined together. Let no man,
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Let no man put us under.
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Yeah. It's true. Oh, it's so beautiful.
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Well, okay, so, so Rhonda,
we talked about that.
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I know we talked about
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how God used women in the Old Testament,
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Right? Right after the fall.
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Yes. We talked about the
beautiful pictures of women
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and how Jesus exalted
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And lifted up women in
the New Testament. He did.
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Yes.
And so today, I want us
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to really major in on what
the Apostle Paul said.
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Yeah - And what the Holy Spirit pinned through him - Yes
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because some people, some women even think that Paul
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was a hater of women. Aw. So
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Paul, when he was taught the
revelation by Jesus Christ,
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he came out of those times
with the understanding
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that now in Christ, there's
no longer Jew nor Greek.
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There's no longer bond or free.
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There's no longer male nor female.
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God sees them as one because they're two halves of the same.
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And Rhonda, that was huge. Yes. Because the
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Apostle Paul,
Yes.
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Since he was a tiny little Jewish boy,
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had been praying the prayer,
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I'd rather be a dog than a woman.
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Yeah. It's how he was raised. Oh.
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But, but to his credit, he
was able to let that go.
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Absolutely. When Jesus taught
him the truth of the worth
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and the value of women.
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And we see all
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through the New Testament
in his teachings,
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him acknowledging women ministers. Over in Romans 6,
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he acknowledged Phoebe and he acknowledged Priscilla.
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And he acknowledged Junia and
said that she was an apostle
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and notable among the apostles.
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He called Phoebe in the original, a deacon, a diakinos.
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And really that's the
same word that he used
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to describe his own ministry
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and the ministry of all the
other apostles in every other
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place in the New Testament,
it was translated minister,
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except for, I think it's three
times where it was deacon,
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but only once did the King James version
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translate it servant.
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And that was when it came to Phoebe.
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But it's the same word that Paul used
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to describe his own ministry.
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respect for this woman
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because he said, help her,
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because she's been a great help to many, including myself.
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Help her for the sake of the ministry that she does.
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Well, Rhonda, when you say servant
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Yeah.
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Well, if we recognize the power
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and the gifting that God gives us as women
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Yes.
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And we don't hold them back.
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Then we're able to serve
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100% even better.
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Yes, yes, yes. Yes. Mean you
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We're called to serve each other.
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Even the men are called to serve.
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Absolutely. We're called
to serve each other.
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Absolutely. You can
serve your children. Yes.
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You can serve, you have a can
have a servant's heart at your
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work - Yeah.
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Which really, if we have a right heart,
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even at work,
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because the Bible says, do whatever you do, not as unto men,
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but as unto God, as in
Colossians, it also says,
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do whatever you do with all your might.
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Well, if you do that,
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you're gonna be better at whatever it is you are going to
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do. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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So if it's that you
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then you're gonna serve even at a higher
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Yes.
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Level.
Yes.
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pinning what the Holy Spirit was saying, he
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was lifting women up.
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He really was. And he did something really
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radical for his day.
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He threw open the doors of the church
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and let the women come.
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In that day, women were
expected to stay home. Yes.
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They weren't even allowed
at public assemblies.
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So really, they didn't
even know how to behave.
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But that's, you know, we'll talk about
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that maybe a little bit later.
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But he threw open the doors of the church,
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and he allowed them to use
their gifts in the church,
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even their speaking gifts,
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because he said, you know,
when you pray publicly
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and when you prophesy publicly, make sure
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that you have your head covered.
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But that I will, oh, look at the head coverings in a minute.
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But he let them pray
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and he let them prophesy,
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which is speaking under
the inspiration of God
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for edification, exhortation, and comfort.
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Yeah.
He let them use their gifts.
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And they amplified even
goes so far as to say,
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when you speak, when you
preach, when you, when you
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use your gifts to teach, then you need
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to have your head covered.
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So it goes even further in enumerating what
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that word actually means.
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He allowed them to use their
gifts in the public service.
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And even in 1 Corinthians where it says,
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if anyone has a tongue, if
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anyone's anyone, it
doesn't say, if any man,
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Yes.
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It says if anyone,
then, then go one by one
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and you can share, and everybody can bring a doctrine.
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Everybody can bring a psalm.
Everybody is everybody.
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Yes. So the,
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so the Holy Spirit was
not making a distinction
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between men and women?
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No, it's not saying
it's the only, the men can
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Speak in church, only the
men can speak or prophesy.
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Yeah. No, he wasn't saying
that. He was saying, you all
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can.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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I just love that
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because even with the two ladies who were fighting Yodia
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and Cynthia, or however you say their names,
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he told them, he asked them to get along,
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and then he asked somebody to
help them for their work sake
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that they had with him
labored, bringing many
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to belief in Christ.
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And they were evangelists
right along beside Paul.
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And he acknowledged their ministry.
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He acknowledged so many
times, all the writers
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of the New Testament people,
women who prophesied,
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or women who, you know, brought the word of the Lord.
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It's, it's all throughout the New Testament.
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And so that brings us even then to Paul's difficult words.
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You know, what does it mean when he's said, if a woman wants
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to learn, let her learn in silence.
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You know, it's not permitted under her
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to speak in church or whatever.
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But that word silence there doesn't mean not
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to speak at all.
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It actually means that
there to, well, it says,
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if any would learn, let's start there.
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So the issue he's addressing
is how women were trying
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to learn in the early church.
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Hmm. - So they weren't
accustomed to public meetings.
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They didn't know decorum,
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they didn't know the etiquette of it all.
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So who knows what they were
doing? We don't know exactly.
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Maybe they were yelling
out their questions
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or yelling to their husbands who sat somewhere else
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to ask a question or maybe discussing the message while the
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sermon was still going on.
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And so he says, let them keep silence.
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That word silence doesn't
mean to be totally silent
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and not speak.
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It means to be sedentary,
to keep one seat,
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to be undisturbed and
undisturbing of others.
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That's what that word means,
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Powerful.
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It's not that some woman
got up and tried to teach
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and Paul was calling her down.
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He was giving proper etiquette for
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how women should learn while
they're in the church service,
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because they just didn't know.
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Wow. You know,
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I was raised in a
denominational church, And in
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that church, women were
not allowed to speak.
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Yes. We were allowed to sing.
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We were allowed to teach
Sunday school class,
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but not allowed to be
in the pulpit at all.
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Yeah. And, but the strange
thing was we celebrated at
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Christmas time a missionary,
and her name was Lottie Moon.
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And she had given her life
to serve the Chinese people.
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So she served them, she
taught them the words.
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She, she did everything for them.
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But yet she could do that.
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But a woman was not allowed
to even speak in the pulpit.
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So it is like, doesn't make
sense. It doesn't make sense.
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It doesn't make sense.
Yeah. And it, it shows that
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I was not taught the truth
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Yes.
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About a woman.
Yeah.
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And, and I was taught that I was,
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and I am, I am his helpmate.
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Yes, of course I am. My husband's
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Helpmate. Yes, 100%.
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But I'm not lower than he
Is. No, that's true.
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And, and we even, and your
gift less or less important.
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Right, right.
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And so we've even discussed that
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it makes sense to bring forth your gift.
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Yes. Not hide your gift
or, or criticize your gift
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or hide,
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put in the shadow, your
gift, your personality.
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Yes. Because you are not the husband.
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Right. - And,
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and Paul absolutely was setting
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women free.
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He really was. I mean, he,
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He really was.
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He was setting them free. Yes. He was,
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He was setting them free.
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Yeah. And, and people
don't even know that.
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They think exactly. The opposite is true.
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But even up in 1 Corinthians where he said, you know,
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if anyone has a tongue,
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but there's no interpreter,
then hold your peace.
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That word hold your peace is
the same word that is silent.
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It just means in this moment,
for the sake of order,
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Wow.
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Be in order, keep, keep
yourself from disturbing
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because there's no interpreter.
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And, but we don't interpret that
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as being a permanent
injunction against them ever
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speaking in tongues again.
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Right. - No, we understand
it was in that moment due
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to those circumstances.
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Yes. - And the same with
those who have a prophecy.
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He said, if you have a prophecy
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and the spirit moves on someone nearby, then you be quiet
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and let them speak.
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But we don't interpret that
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as a permanent injunction against them
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bringing forth a prophecy.
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It's just if, if under these
specific circumstances,
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if it happens, then,
then just hold your peace
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for the moment until a better time for you
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to give forth your prophecy.
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But why do we interpret that
same word as women just have
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to be silent forever
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in church. We interpret it when it comes to women,
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that same word in the same chapter
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as being a permanent injunction against women speaking in
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the church when it's absolutely could not
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be further from the truth.
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That same word is used two other times.
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And really, if you study
it every other time,
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that word is used in the New Testament,
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it just means be quiet momentarily under these circumstances
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until things settle down
or things are better.
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That's all it means.
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There's not a permanent
injunction among them
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for, for anything.
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Anytime that word is
used. Well, okay, now,
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Rhonda.
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Okay. This is one thing else I was taught.
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I was taught, okay.
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You could be a, you could be
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a woman evangelist.
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You could be a pastor,
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you could be a teacher.
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Yes. You could be a prophet,
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but you could never be an apostle.
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That was too high up
there. Oh my goodness.
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That a woman could be an apostle.
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Yeah.
And then I found, of course,
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I found in your wonderful
book, God's Heart for Women.
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But I found in my own
study in the word of God
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that the Apostle Paul,
he had a ministry team,
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and it was Priscilla and Aquila.
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Yes. - And
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and they were - it was a
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apostolic team.
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Yes.
Together.
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Yes.
And,
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and that through the Holy Spirit,
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the Apostle Paul was raising up Priscilla.
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Yes. - And at the beginning,
when the Bible mentions her,
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it says, it says Aquila and...
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No - Aquila and Priscilla. Yes.
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But as you go through the
New Testament, it says
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Priscilla and Aquila.
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And it is as if the giftings inside of Priscilla
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were greater or more powerful than Aquila
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Yes.
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But it didn't stop the apostle Paul
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Yes.
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From recognizing her gifting
because she was a woman.
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Yeah.
But yet he just recognized
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and that's what the Holy Spirit does.
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Yeah - He, he's not, it moved by gender. Right.
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He's moved by
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availability, availability. Yes. Yes.
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And that our heart agrees with the word of
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God.
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Yeah. There's a lot of churches that teach
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that still, but you know what?
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If you don't need their title
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and you don't need their pulpit, oh,
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they can't stop you from just obeying God.
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Just obey God when he tells you to speak
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and tells you to whom to say it, just obey God.
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You don't need a pulpit.
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No - You don't need, you don't need a title.
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You can just obey God.
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And the more you obey God,
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the bigger the assignments he's gonna give you
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because he knows he can trust you now.
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Yes. - And so then you'll go higher and higher
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and he can open up doors before you that no man can shut.
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Yes. And on our next program,
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we're gonna talk about a almost life threatening situation.
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Yeah. Where God was speaking to Rhonda,
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but she didn't know really
what to do with that.
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Yeah. - And is going to encourage you
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and Rhonda, I think
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that these teachings are very powerful.
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And I know that you need this
book, God's Heart for Women,
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because we don't wanna be led by lies.
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We wanna be led by the truth of God's word.
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So I want you to stay with us,
and we're coming right back
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and we're gonna pray for you.
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For generations, women in
the church have been taught
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that they are secondary
to or weaker than men,
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or that Eve's failure in the Garden
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of Eden disqualifies them
from being fully used by God.
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But this is not God's will. In - How God Sees You,
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Denise Renner with guest Rhonda Garver,
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you will learn biblical truths about women
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that combat deception around subjects like: the true meaning
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of Eve's title - Helper: the role of women in ministry:
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the best way to follow your calling in the face
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of adversity - and more.
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This compelling 5-part series is available in digital
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and physical formats starting at just $11.
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In addition to this teaching series,
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we are offering you the books, God's Heart for Women
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by Rhonda Garver and Unstoppable by Denise Renner.
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These inspiring books will
encourage you with the truth
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that God wants to use you
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and will equip you to boldly carry out his
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calling on your life.
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You can purchase these books for $20 each.
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Don't miss this special offer: the series, How God Sees You,
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Denise Renner with guest Rhonda Garver
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and the books, God's Heart
for Women, by Rhonda Garver
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and Unstoppable by Denise Renner.
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Visit renner.org to order,
call the number on your screen
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or scan the QR code now,
call or go online now.
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So isn't this encouraging?
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And I want you to get the
book, God's Heart for Women
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and you, you might be saying, Denise,
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quit advertising that book.
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You've advertised it 15 times.
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Well, I'm not gonna stop advertising it
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because when I read it,
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and I've read it three times,
it was setting free things,
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old things that I believed
and that were holding me back.
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And honestly, we don't have the right
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to hold back the gifts and callings
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and the way that God made us hold it back.
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We don't have that right. Yeah.
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It says in Psalm 139, that He's the one
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that intricately designed you inside
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of your mother's womb.
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And then when Jesus, when
Jesus gave his life and died
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and went to Hell and resurrected and gave the Holy Spirit
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and gave it to you and me, and gave you gifts and callings,
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and abilities, who are we
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to hold those things back
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and not give them out as we've been given?
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The Bible says, freely, you have been given - No -
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Freely you have received.
Freely give. Yeah.
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Amen. It's important what we're saying.
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So I want you to have this book. Also.
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There's a five part video series
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and a study guide on
God's heart for women.
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Thank you so much for being with us,
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and I just wanna pray
for you really quickly.
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Father, I thank you for every
listener and I pray right now,
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and I know the Holy Spirit is there
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to help adjust our thinking
to the truth of your word,
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and to not hold back
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or put it in a shadow, the gifts
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and callings that you've given us.
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And we thank you for this. In
Jesus' name. In Jesus. Amen.
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I'll see you next time
on the next program.
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Hey friends, my wife
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and I are coming to the United States
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to hold some wonderful meetings,
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and I want to tell you about them,
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but please be sure to go to our website
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to affirm all these times and dates,
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because sometimes things change on Sunday,
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February 8th, we're coming to Southfield, Michigan
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to be at Word of Faith with Bishop Keith
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and Pastor Deborah Butler.
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On Sunday, February 15th, we're coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma
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to be at Millennial Church with Pastors Paul
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and Karen Brady.
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And on Saturday and Sunday, February 21st
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and 22nd, we're coming to Midland, North Carolina
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to Encounter Church to be with Bishop Alan.
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And Tera DiDio -
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and friend I to invite you to come to one of these meetings.
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We're waiting to see you there.
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If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior
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and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life
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Jesus has to give you.
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Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,
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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. Wash away my sin
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and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
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I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
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for the rest of my life.
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Amen.
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If you just prayed the
prayer of salvation with us,
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would you please let us know by going
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to renner.org/salvation?
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We would love to connect with you.
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Denise Renner is a mentor to women and author,
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and a classically trained
vocalist with television,
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satellite, and internet
platform's combined.
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The ministry of Rick
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and Denise Renner reaches a
potential worldwide audience
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in the millions.
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We invite you to partner with
us in teaching, strengthening,
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and rescuing lives for the glory of God.
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Discover the many ways you can
help us make a difference in
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lives around the world with the Word of God.
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Together we can make a difference
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that will last throughout eternity.