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<v ->Hello, I'm Denise Renner</v>

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and I wanna welcome you to my program.

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And we are talking about a very important subject on these

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programs and that is
about women recognizing

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who they are in God's eyes.

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Don't you wanna recognize
who you are in God's eyes?

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Not the eyes of some movie
you saw, not the eyes of

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how you were raised, not
the eyes of your peers,

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but how God sees you.

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I think that's really powerful

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because how God sees us
is where there's freedom

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and there's power.

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And I have a guest with me, Rhonda Garver.

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Rhonda, I'm thrilled that
you're with me. Thank you.

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It's, I'm glad to be here. Thank you.

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And Rhonda, I'm so thankful
that you wrote this book,

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God's Heart for Women.

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Thank you. And I want
you to have this book.

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And also you can get a 5-part video series

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and a study guide on everything

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that we're saying in
these programs about God's

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heart for women.

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And you know, Rhonda, when I
read your book, I was like,

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oh Lord, let me turn the next page.

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Oh Jesus, this is so good.

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Oh, underline, underline, underline.

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I mean, I was like so blessed this,

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the knowledge, the study

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that you put into this
book was setting me free.

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<v ->I'm so glad. - And that is so powerful. Yeah.</v>

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And thank you, Rhonda, you're
so for writing this book.

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And if you need prayer, please
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for you, because we have a powerful prayer team just waiting

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to pray with you or write your email.

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A whole team just dedicated to help you.

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Yeah. So don't hesitate
to call us or write us.

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And if you're a partner with
this ministry, thank you

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so much.

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And if you wanna leave a
comment, please let us know

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what these programs are doing for you.

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So I want you to stay with me
'cause I'm coming right back

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and you're going to hear
some wonderful teaching,

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the truth being unveiled about

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how God sees women.

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<v ->It's time for big miracles
and changes in your life.</v>

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Join Denise Renner

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and dive into the study of God's word which has great power

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to strengthen faith, inspire change,

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And most importantly, help
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of Christ Jesus living in you.

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It's time with Denise Renner.

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<v ->Okay. Have you got your Bible out</v>

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and your pen or pencil?

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And are you ready to take notes?

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Because you're gonna want to,

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because this teaching is so powerful.

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And as I've already said
to you, when I got to read

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and I read her manuscript and
I was so excited about it.

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And the Lord showed me

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that I was gonna be a
megaphone for this message.

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So I wrote the foreword. I'm
thrilled about this book.

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And when I was reading it, Rhonda, God was setting me free.

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<v ->So thankful. I'm so glad. Yay. God,</v>

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<v ->I'm so thankful, Rhonda,
thank you for your obedience</v>

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and the time that it took for
you to, to put this in print.

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<v ->Thank you. I appreciate</v>
<v ->It. I am so grateful. Yeah.</v>

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And you know, Rhonda,

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we were talking about on the last program

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how the deception

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about that word, helpmate.

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<v ->Yeah - I mean that's such a big thing.</v>

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<v ->It really is. It hinders
women from seeing themselves</v>

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properly and, and using
and giving their gifts.

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Women will hold back if
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supposed to give their gifts.

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<v ->So I always thought
it was a very feminine</v>

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thing to do. Yes.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->The righteous thing to do.</v>

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<v ->Yes. Well, I heard all my life that's,</v>

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that's what I was to do.

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Absolutely. And we are

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to help our husbands
don't misunderstand is,

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you know, we are to help.

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Matter of fact, you know,
I've spent 30 years helping my

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husband establish our
church and our ministry,

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and yet there's things within
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during that time and,

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and even maybe in a little
bit greater degree right now

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in helping women to find their place.

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But it is a balance between the two of helping

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of helping your husband,

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but also then giving your
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So Oh, absolutely. But the Holy Spirit

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is a master -

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He is - at opening our eyes - Yes

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and then teaching us how to be a help.

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<v ->Yes. - And how to, at the
same time, not to control</v>

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or you know,

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or I'm woman, let you know
I'm here to change the world.

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Right. It's me, me, me, me,
me. It's women, women, women.

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No, no, no, no, no. It's
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But it's recognizing how God made you.

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<v ->Yes. It's not the
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<v ->No. - You know, let's
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and go storm the citadel.

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It's not like that at all. I wanted to know the truth. Yeah.

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And that's what I set out to do.

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And I put the truth that I
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to help other people even
study it out for themselves.

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because if you genuinely dig into the word of God,

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it is absolutely yes.

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Yes, yes. Clear what God's purpose

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and his heart is for women.

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100% easily seen when your heart is open.

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And you know what, it really doesn't

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make any sense that God would wanna bring a helper

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to the husband

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<v ->Right.</v>

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<v ->Who was less than him.</v>
<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->And weaker than him. That's</v>

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<v ->Exactly right.</v>

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That just makes no sense. It
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We would be useless the point like Yeah.

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Like when I, you know, in my

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<v ->Ministry Right.</v>

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And I have women that work with me.

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<v ->Yeah. - Well, I don't
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No, absolutely not. I want 'em to be smarter than me.

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Yeah. I want 'em to be - I want powerful women next to me.

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Yeah. Well how much in
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that team to be the most powerful they can

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<v ->Yes</v>

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<v ->for the woman to come out of the shadows</v>

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and recognize God has made me

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to be a powerful helper.

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Not, not just, I'll just stand back here.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->But to come forward. Right.</v>

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And this is a powerful

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message.

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And when you understand what
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it is the word God used
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I am your helper.

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There is nothing weak
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or less than about that. No. At

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<v ->All. Uhuh,</v>

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<v ->That's not how the word is used.</v>

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But our modern usage of those words has,

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has twisted our thinking to think we are

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to do nothing more than hand
the more skilled person tools.

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That's that's absolutely the, the truth.

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But it's, it's really not

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what God meant when he said what he said.

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<v ->And, and the Bible says,</v>

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as a man thinks in his heart,
that's absolutely the truth.

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100%. So if we just think
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and just hide your, you don't

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<v ->Have anything to add</v>
<v ->Exactly.</v>

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Then, then that's who we will be. Yeah.

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But if you recognize
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it'll set you free.

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<v ->Amen. - And that I'm so
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to have this book, God's Heart for Women.

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Well, okay, now Rhonda, some people say,

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and I've even heard,

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I've even heard it
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I have heard sermons on it.

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And that is

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because woman sin, she was deceived.

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Yes. That's why that women cannot,

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you can't trust women in, in
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because they were the one that was

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deceived.

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That almost makes me laugh

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because when God was talking to Adam

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and Eve, she said the serpent deceived me.

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Adam didn't use that as his excuse at all.

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So that means if Adam was not deceived,

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he intentionally chose to
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and disobey God knowingly
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to eat the fruit. If he wasn't deceived,

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I don't know how that makes him better than Eve; in my book,

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that almost makes him worse than Eve.

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So that can't be the proper interpretation

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because just intentionally sinning,

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hardening your heart towards God is,

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is in my book even worse than just being

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tricked or deceived.

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Which is what happened with Eve.

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And I will say I've heard, I
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through the course of my life

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that something happened in the fall that

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women from ministry,
from being used by God,

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from leadership, leadership over men.

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and God knew

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what God meant when he
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of their sin, when he said, you know,

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this is gonna happen now

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and this is gonna happen,
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So if one of the
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that Eve can no longer be speak for God

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and be used by God,

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then we should never one time
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God himself calling them
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because he wouldn't go
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<v ->No.</v>
<v ->So if that's true,</v>

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there should not be one instance instance

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of him calling a woman, speaking through her to the people,

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setting her in leadership over the people,

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both spiritually and naturally.

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We shouldn't find it. And yet we do.

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Not once, but repeatedly.

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So my point is, if God used
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and I think we're gonna look
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that's obviously not one of
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Right. Right. Even though
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that there's no biblical
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<v ->That's right. I mean,
in Genesis 3:16-17,</v>

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and then it goes into 18 for the man.

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there's nothing in there about - and Eve

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because you were deceived, you will never speak for God.

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It is just not written

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<v ->There.</v>

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It is not in there. It's not
written. It is not in there.

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And again which is worse: intentionally hardening your heart

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and intentionally disobeying - how is that any better?

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Anyway, don't get me started.

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But that's, well that's no better. No.

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So, well in fact in my book that's worse.

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Well, because he knowingly did it.

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<v ->So Rhonda,</v>

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so give us some examples in the Old Testament.

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<v ->Yes. Okay. In Micah it, in the book of Micah,</v>

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it says, I sent Moses - talking to Israel -

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I sent Moses to lead you. I
also sent Aaron to lead you.

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And I sent Miriam to lead you. Miriam's a woman.

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And this is after the fall.

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And God said himself
that he sent Miriam along

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with Moses and Aaron to
lead the nation of Israel.

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The scriptures call her
a prophet, a prophet

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or a prophetess is what one who speaks

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for God to the people.

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She was delivering the
messages of God, not just

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for the women, but for
the nation as a whole.

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And God said, I set her in

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that position right
alongside Moses and Aaron.

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She is a leader of this
nation that I sent there.

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And later we see her get too
big for her britches. Yeah.

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And, and rise up against Moses

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because she was offended at him.

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But even Aaron

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and Aaron also Aaron, they,
they, he cited together.

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That's exactly right. And judged Moses,

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<v ->Yes. And then God set them straight.</v>

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<v ->Yes,</v>
<v ->We know that.</v>

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<v ->Yes. And Miriam said,</v>

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is Moses the only one that God speaks to?

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Hasn't he also spoken through us?

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How many of you know Aaron would've said, that's not true.

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If that weren't true. And
when God confronted her,

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he didn't say that wasn't true.

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He just didn't like the fact

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that she rose up against his man out of offense

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and tried to undermine his leadership.

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But he never disputed

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->That he used her to speak to the people.</v>

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<v ->And Rhonda, I wanna say that</v>

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because we all have to guard our hearts.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->We all men and women. 100%.</v>

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We have to guard our hearts
that we don't rise up

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and think we're it and we
start correcting everybody

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and we get jealous of, of everybody.

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That's not God's will for any of us.

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<v ->Yes. - And when you recognize what we're talking about,</v>

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when you recognize the gifts

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and callings in you, that's not about pushing your way

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through and knocking somebody over.

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No. It's just recognizing who you are.

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In Joel, it says that we are

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to recognize the lane
that God has put us in.

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And in that scripture it says

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that they don't elbow each
other out of their places.

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It's, it's the power
is recognizing who you

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<v ->Are. Yeah.</v>

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<v ->And recognizing that</v>

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and agreeing with God,
which is in the word of God.

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And now Rhonda, I want you

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to continue talking about
in the Old Testament, women

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that were so powerful.

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<v ->Yes. Let's, we can
take a look at Deborah,</v>

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the scripture in Judges 2 says,

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God set the judges.

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And when he did, he was behind them

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as long as they were judging.

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And the Bible then goes on a
couple chapters later to say,

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Deborah was a judge over
Israel at that time.

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So if God sets the judges

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and Deborah, a woman was appointed by God

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as judge, obviously God appointed her

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because he said, I set the judges.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->Yeah. And I'm behind her</v>

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and we see in the story of Deborah, her delivering the word

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of the Lord to Barak saying, go raise up this army.

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And Barak said, I'll go, but not unless you go with me.

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<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->And she said,</v>

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because you did this,
God's not going this way.

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God's going to win the
victory using women.

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And that is precisely what he did.

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But she, Deborah, by the unction of God,

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knew this was the particular day

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that they would go out to war.

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So she delivered the word
of the Lord to Barak.

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He honored that word
knowing it was from God.

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He and 10,000 men went out at her

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word and won a great battle.

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But my point is, she is leading 10,001 men

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by the unction of the Holy Spirit.

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They knew she was speaking
for God, they followed her

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and God performed his words spoken through her

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and they won a massive great victory.

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God could have raised up a male judge, but he chose not to.

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<v ->Yes. - God could have
spoken directly to Barak,</v>

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but he chose not to.

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<v ->Yeah. - He set Deborah in
place, delivered his words</v>

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through Deborah

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and used her to lead 10,001 men

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to victory, even delivering
the word of God to them.

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And they knew that she had heard from God.

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And if you read on in the next chapter

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after that talks about
their great victory,

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he talks about those who

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for whatever reason did
not come to follow Deborah.

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And it says they did
not come to follow God.

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Wow. When they didn't follow Deborah,

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God said they didn't follow me. So

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<v ->It means they didn't follow
the one who had the word</v>

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of God. - the

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Word that God gave her - Exactly -

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to deliver. She spoke for me. Yeah.

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And you didn't follow her.
And it says they're cursed.

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It says they were cursed

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for not following the
woman he said in place.

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I've never heard that taught

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<v ->No</v>
<v ->anywhere.</v>

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<v ->But you know what, it's not
about that she was a woman.</v>

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<v ->No, - It's about that
God's message was in her.</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->And there was another woman</v>

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involved in that battle.

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She's one of my favorite.
Her name was Jael.

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And so the main commander

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of the enemy - Sisera - Sisera
<v ->so he escaped.</v>

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And so he goes into her tent, this

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Jael goes into her tent

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and he says, don't tell
anybody I'm in here.

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And she, it's amazing what she does.

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So she lays him, he lays down, she covers

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with with a blanket.

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She gives him some milk
and he falls asleep.

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Well, this woman, it's a woman,

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she gets out a hammer and a big long nail,

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and she pierces his temple through

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with the nail down to the ground.

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Wow. She totally finishes the job

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of the victory.

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And after that, there were 40 years of

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peace.

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Absolutely amazing.
Absolutely amazing. From

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<v ->A woman.</v>

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<v ->Yes. He, God on the battlefield,</v>

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could have used any man to kill Sisera.

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He was on the battlefield until he ran. Until he escaped.

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Because the, the other
side was winning. Yeah.

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The Israelites were winning Judah, Israel,

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I think when they were winning, he,

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God could have used any man out there

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to kill him, but he didn't.

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He chose to bring victory
that day using two women.

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And it was after the covenant.

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Two, two women after the covenant

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after the fall, not after the fall.

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After the fall. Two women, he chose

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to use two women after the fall.

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Well, if something in the fall
had disqualified women from

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leadership and from speaking
to the people for God,

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he should never have used them that way.

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Obviously that was not his intent when he spoke

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to them about what the consequences of their sin would be.

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N it never meant to exclude
women from ministry,

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from leadership, both spiritually

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and naturally, from speaking
for God to the people.

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Obviously it did not disqualify them

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because we see God using them that way.

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Again, not once, not
twice, but time after time.

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<v ->And you know, while you're
talking Rhonda, I'm thinking</v>

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that God, of course he sees us

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as the creation that he made us.

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<v ->Yes. - but in our unrenewed mind</v>

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or through religion

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or through this society that we live in,

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we don't see ourselves
the way that God made us.

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Yes. Yes.

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And your book, God's Heart for Women, absolutely

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helps us to see the truth.

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And the Bible says, Jesus said it himself,

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he said that the truth will set you free.

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Amen. Not lie will set you free.

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But the truth and God's
word is the truth. Yes.

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And if you are, I mean,

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I just love all you women so much,

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and I, I'm just thinking about 50%

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of the world's population are women.

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It would never be God's
will to just, you know,

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they're just lesser put them aside.

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No. Yeah. God placed gifts and callings,

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personalities - Yes.

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Abilities in women to I mean, if you're married,

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to come alongside your husband, but

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but to be that great
helper to him, not lesser,

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but at least the same
if not more powerful.

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Because again, we said
earlier, if you want somebody

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to help you, and I could say
for myself, if I want somebody

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to help me in my ministry,

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<v ->right. I don't want somebody lower. No.</v>

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I want somebody as good as
me or smarter than me. Yeah.

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And your husband, if I'm
talking to wives right now,

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he needs you to step up to that place.

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Yes, he does. And you recognize the things

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that God put on the inside of you.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->Your children.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->They need you to step up</v>

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and recognize all the gifts,
the wonderful personality

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that he gave you to help nurture

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and strengthen those, those children.

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And we're gonna talk
about on the next program,

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an example from Rhonda's life of

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how she wasn't stepping forward.

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And it almost cost somebody
their life. Yeah, that's true.

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And I wanna encourage you that you,

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you listen intently to what we're saying

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because it can make all the
difference in your attitude

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about yourself and even about your spouse.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->Or your children. Yeah.</v>

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Or how you operate in your workplace.

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The confidence of which you
operate in your workplace

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or as a student in school.

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Because when you hear the truth,

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the truth has the power to
set us free. Yeah. Rhonda,

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<v ->I think the balance of
that is also important.</v>

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We don't see Debra making
a place for herself. No.

454
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'cause I'm, I have a gift.
I, you know what I'm saying?

455
00:21:37.420 --> 00:21:41.680
Everything Debra did,
everything Miriam did right up

456
00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:44.860
until she got the wrong
attitude was done out

457
00:21:44.860 --> 00:21:47.170
of obedience to God,

458
00:21:47.170 --> 00:21:52.030
only. God said, speak these words - and she did.

459
00:21:52.030 --> 00:21:57.030
God sent her to Barack. God
sent her to lead the army.

460
00:21:57.160 --> 00:21:59.230
It was all at the behest of God.

461
00:21:59.230 --> 00:22:01.985
We don't see her trying to
make a place for herself.

462
00:22:01.985 --> 00:22:04.360
And, and I'm, so there's
that balance in that, right?

463
00:22:04.360 --> 00:22:05.890
You need to use your gifts.

464
00:22:05.890 --> 00:22:08.890
You must, in these last
days, use your gifts.

465
00:22:08.890 --> 00:22:11.680
The, the world needs what's inside of you.

466
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:12.850
You have to do it,

467
00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:16.660
but you don't have to do it
just out of selfish ambition.

468
00:22:16.660 --> 00:22:19.030
You pray until you know what to do.

469
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And then when God speaks to
you, then you just obey the,

470
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that word, whatever it is,
whatever he tells you to do,

471
00:22:25.570 --> 00:22:28.690 line:15% 
you just obey God and he'll make the way

472
00:22:28.690 --> 00:22:32.260
before you in, in every,
in every situation.

473
00:22:32.260 --> 00:22:34.120
You'll be a huge blessing to the world,

474
00:22:34.120 --> 00:22:36.040
to the body of Christ. And that could

475
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be in the filling station,

476
00:22:37.570 --> 00:22:39.310 line:15% 
that could be at the grocery store,

477
00:22:39.310 --> 00:22:40.725 line:15% 
that can be at home with your children.

478
00:22:40.725 --> 00:22:44.170 line:15% 
Hundred percent children. Yep.
That can be in the workplace.

479
00:22:44.170 --> 00:22:47.650 line:15% 
But God doesn't want us
to walk in a sheepish

480
00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.510 line:15% 
shameful in the shadow place in life.

481
00:22:52.510 --> 00:22:54.580 line:15% 
Yes. He wants us to come forward

482
00:22:54.580 --> 00:22:58.150 line:15% 
and shine as he made us to shine.

483
00:22:58.150 --> 00:22:59.290 line:15% 
Rhonda, thank you.

484
00:22:59.290 --> 00:23:03.430 line:15% 
And we are coming right back
and we're gonna pray for you.

485
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<v ->For generations, women in
the church have been taught</v>

486
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that they are secondary
to or weaker than men.

487
00:23:10.870 --> 00:23:12.850 line:15% 
Or that Eve's failure in the Garden

488
00:23:12.850 --> 00:23:17.560
of Eden disqualifies them
from being fully used by God.

489
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But this is not God's will. In - How God Sees You -

490
00:23:22.180 --> 00:23:25.000 line:15% 
Denise Renner with guest Rhonda Garver,

491
00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.370 line:15% 
you will learn biblical truths about women

492
00:23:27.370 --> 00:23:31.420 line:15% 
that combat deception around subjects like: the true meaning

493
00:23:31.420 --> 00:23:35.770 line:15% 
of Eve's title - Helper: the role of women in ministry:

494
00:23:35.770 --> 00:23:38.230 line:15% 
the best way to follow your calling in the face

495
00:23:38.230 --> 00:23:40.180 line:15% 
of adversity - and more.

496
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This compelling 5-part series is available in digital

497
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and physical formats starting at just $11.

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In addition to this teaching series,

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we are offering you the books, God's Heart for Women

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by Rhonda Garver and Unstoppable by Denise Renner.

501
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These inspiring books will
encourage you with the truth

502
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that God wants to use you

503
00:24:02.630 --> 00:24:05.000 line:15% 
and will equip you to boldly carry out his

504
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.890 line:15% 
calling on your life.

505
00:24:06.890 --> 00:24:09.770 line:15% 
You can purchase these books for $20 each.

506
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Don't miss this special offer: the series, How God Sees You:

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508
00:24:16.130 --> 00:24:19.160 line:15% 
and the books, God's Heart for Women, by Rhonda Garver

509
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and Unstoppable, by Denise Renner.

510
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Visit renner.org to order,
call the number on your screen

511
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or scan the QR code now.

512
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Call or go online now.

513
00:24:28.850 --> 00:24:33.230
<v ->Well I can just see you women just sitting there and</v>

514
00:24:33.230 --> 00:24:37.010
the wheels in your mind are just turning

515
00:24:37.010 --> 00:24:38.810
because I understand that,

516
00:24:38.810 --> 00:24:43.160 line:15% 
'cause the first time that I read Wanda's book, I was like,

517
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:45.965 line:15% 
wow, Lord, Lord, Lord what is this? I'm,

518
00:24:45.965 --> 00:24:47.330 line:15% 
always going, Lord, is this true?

519
00:24:47.330 --> 00:24:49.130 line:15% 
Is this true? And then I look at the word

520
00:24:49.130 --> 00:24:50.810 line:15% 
and I go, yep, it's true,

521
00:24:50.810 --> 00:24:55.520 line:15% 
it's true that he would set us so free

522
00:24:55.520 --> 00:24:59.360 line:15% 
to be all that we can be how he made us.

523
00:24:59.360 --> 00:25:01.370 line:15% 
But doesn't that make sense?

524
00:25:01.370 --> 00:25:04.070 line:15% 
He wouldn't want us to
just, you know, make us,

525
00:25:04.070 --> 00:25:07.250 line:15% 
make us wonderful, give
us an amazing personality

526
00:25:07.250 --> 00:25:11.750 line:15% 
or characters or giftings
and then just hide them

527
00:25:11.750 --> 00:25:13.550 line:15% 
and apologize for them

528
00:25:13.550 --> 00:25:17.210 line:15% 
because we're a woman not right.

529
00:25:17.210 --> 00:25:20.840 line:15% 
It's not right. I want
you to have this book.

530
00:25:20.840 --> 00:25:23.930 line:15% 
Rhonda, thank you so much
for writing this book,

531
00:25:23.930 --> 00:25:25.400 line:15% 
being on my program.

532
00:25:26.450 --> 00:25:27.965 line:15% 
<v ->That's my honor. And thank you for having</v>

533
00:25:27.965 --> 00:25:28.965
me.

534
00:25:28.965 --> 00:25:29.798 line:15% 
I'm so, I'm so grateful.

535
00:25:29.798 --> 00:25:33.620 line:15% 
And if, if this program
has touched you in any way,

536
00:25:33.620 --> 00:25:35.540 line:15% 
please send us your comments.

537
00:25:35.540 --> 00:25:39.860 line:15% 
And if you need prayer, maybe,
maybe you're in a situation

538
00:25:39.860 --> 00:25:42.290 line:15% 
where you really felt like you just had

539
00:25:42.290 --> 00:25:43.880 line:15% 
to be in the shadows.

540
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.160 line:15% 
Maybe you need prayer, please call us.

541
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.610 line:15% 
If you need healing in
your body, please call us.

542
00:25:49.610 --> 00:25:52.790 line:15% 
We are there to minister to you.

543
00:25:52.790 --> 00:25:56.930 line:15% 
You can write an email or you
can call us on that number.

544
00:25:56.930 --> 00:25:59.570 line:15% 
And also there's a five part series

545
00:25:59.570 --> 00:26:04.370 line:15% 
and a study guide of what
we just talked about,

546
00:26:04.370 --> 00:26:07.040 line:15% 
about God's Heart For Women.

547
00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:10.370 line:15% 
You don't wanna miss this
opportunity to be able

548
00:26:10.370 --> 00:26:14.240 line:15% 
to attain this material.

549
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:17.900 line:15% 
So let us hear from you.
Rhonda, thank you again.

550
00:26:17.900 --> 00:26:20.210 line:15% 
You're welcome. Thank you for having me.

551
00:26:20.210 --> 00:26:23.300 line:15% 
And I want you, again,
I'm gonna say it again,

552
00:26:23.300 --> 00:26:25.430 line:15% 
God's Heart for Women.

553
00:26:25.430 --> 00:26:28.280 line:15% 
You need this book. It's
gonna be a blessing.

554
00:26:28.280 --> 00:26:30.380 line:15% 
You're gonna be become more powerful.

555
00:26:30.380 --> 00:26:33.710 line:15% 
You're gonna become more
confident, more loving,

556
00:26:33.710 --> 00:26:38.240 line:15% 
more supportive, and also more free.

557
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.710 line:15% 
So once you have the book,

558
00:26:39.710 --> 00:26:43.260 line:15% 
and I wanna see you on the next program.

559
00:26:43.260 --> 00:26:44.670
<v ->Hey friends, my wife</v>

560
00:26:44.670 --> 00:26:46.350
and I are coming to the United States

561
00:26:46.350 --> 00:26:48.660
to hold some wonderful meetings

562
00:26:48.660 --> 00:26:50.010
and I want to tell you about them.

563
00:26:50.010 --> 00:26:52.230
But please be sure to go to our website

564
00:26:52.230 --> 00:26:54.420
to affirm all these times and dates

565
00:26:54.420 --> 00:26:56.730
because sometimes things change.

566
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On January 25th, we're coming
to Green Mountain Falls,

567
00:26:59.730 --> 00:27:03.090 line:15% 
Colorado to Legacy Church, to be with Pastors Jeremy

568
00:27:03.090 --> 00:27:05.070 line:15% 
and Sarah Pearsons.

569
00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:08.850 line:15% 
On Friday, Saturday, Sunday, January 30th, 31st

570
00:27:08.850 --> 00:27:11.670 line:15% 
and February 1st, we're coming to Mesa, Arizona,

571
00:27:11.670 --> 00:27:16.170 line:15% 
to Vida Church, to be with Pastors Ben and Kara Diaz.

572
00:27:16.170 --> 00:27:19.440 line:15% 
On Sunday, February 8th, we're coming to Southfield,

573
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:23.160 line:15% 
Michigan to be at Word of Faith with Bishop Keith

574
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.680 line:15% 
and Pastor Deborah Butler.

575
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:30.150 line:15% 
On Sunday, February 15th, we're coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma

576
00:27:30.150 --> 00:27:32.580 line:15% 
to be at Millennial Church with Pastors Paul

577
00:27:32.580 --> 00:27:34.230 line:15% 
and Karen Brady.

578
00:27:34.230 --> 00:27:36.960 line:15% 
And on Saturday and Sunday, February 21st

579
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.380 line:15% 
and 22nd, we're coming to Midland, North Carolina

580
00:27:40.380 --> 00:27:43.740 line:15% 
to Encounter Church to be with Bishop Alan

581
00:27:43.740 --> 00:27:45.570 line:15% 
and Tera DiDio -

582
00:27:45.570 --> 00:27:48.300 line:15% 
we're waiting to see you there.

583
00:27:48.300 --> 00:27:51.480 line:15% 
<v ->If you've never received
Jesus as your Savior</v>

584
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:56.480 line:15% 
and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life

585
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:58.890 line:15% 
Jesus has to give you.

586
00:27:58.890 --> 00:28:03.210 line:15% 
Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,

587
00:28:03.210 --> 00:28:07.890 line:15% 
I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior

588
00:28:07.890 --> 00:28:11.220 line:15% 
and Lord. Wash away my sin

589
00:28:11.220 --> 00:28:13.830 line:15% 
and make me completely new.

590
00:28:13.830 --> 00:28:16.170 line:15% 
I thank you that my sin is removed

591
00:28:16.170 --> 00:28:21.170 line:15% 
and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.

592
00:28:21.270 --> 00:28:26.270
I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord

593
00:28:26.280 --> 00:28:28.890 line:15% 
for the rest of my life -

594
00:28:28.890 --> 00:28:29.723 line:15% 
Amen.

