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of the God called partners
of Renner Ministries.

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<v ->I am so glad that you are with me today,</v>

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and I have something so
special for you today.

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And that is my guest, Rhonda Garver.

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And she's gonna talk about a topic

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that's gonna touch your hearts about

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how God made women in oh,

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in such an amazing way that
we can bring forward our gifts

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and our calling, and that
we don't have to hide them.

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And I want you to welcome
with me Rhonda Garver.

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Rhonda, thank you so
much for being with me.

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Thank you for having me on the show.

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I'm so honored to be here.

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And Rhonda, I am so thankful
your, for your study

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that you have put into in this subject.

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And I know

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that it's gonna bless all those that hear these

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programs.

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Amen. I just wanted

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to help women obey God and help women. So,

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<v ->And if you need prayer,
please let us know</v>

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how we can pray for you.

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And if this program

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is touching your heart in any way,

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please let us know about that.

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I know

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that God is gonna touch your
heart in these programs,

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and I wanna offer to
you my book, Unstoppable.

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Because when we are going into
new territory, I would say,

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and changing our minds about something,

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and it's all God's word

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and renewing our minds to the truth,

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sometimes there's some things
that you gotta press through

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and you gotta be unstoppable.

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But you've got the unstoppable
one on the inside of you.

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And if you don't have my book, Unstoppable,

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I want you to get it.

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So I want you to stay with
me, and we're coming back

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and we're gonna talk about
this amazing subject of

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how God created us women

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to recognize the power

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and the gifts that are on the inside of us,

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and that we don't have to hold them back.

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<v ->It's time for big miracles
and changes in your life.</v>

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Join Denise Renner

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and dive into the study of God's word, which has great power

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to strengthen faith, inspire,
change, heal physically

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and spiritually, and most importantly,

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help you learn about the power

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of Christ Jesus living in you.

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It's time with Denise Renner.

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<v ->Rhonda, I'm so excited
to talk about your book.</v>

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I'm excited about it

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too -

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Woo hoo. Thank you. I know Rhonda,

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'cause I've known you for how many years?

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May three or four.

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I think we met like 30 years
ago, but only briefly. Yes.

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Just the last few years. I love your

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<v ->Church.</v>

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<v ->Oh, thank you. And you guys are</v>

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so amazing there. Thank you.

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<v ->Rhonda, tell me what prompted you to write this book?</v>

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<v ->Well, I was, my husband
and I pastor a church.</v>

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We've pastored together for 30 years.

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The church is 32 years old,

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but I was mentoring some
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and one of them came in my
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beside herself, weeping.

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And she is from a small town

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and she was confronted by some

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of the pastors in her town saying

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that she shouldn't be ministering, that God was displeased

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with her and that she was disobeying God.

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And she was just devastated.

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And so she came in to talk to me

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and she said, I know with
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to the ministry, But does
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can't obey him?

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And if so, then I'm disobeying
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And so I told her what
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but I also knew I needed to know more.

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So really, I just dove into the Bible

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because I knew I had
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for myself once and for all.

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And my own call was so supernatural

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that I never doubted it for a minute.

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what people say the
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And so I just told the Lord,
I said, holy Spirit, you

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who inspire this word
Open to me the revelation

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that I need from God
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And then he directed me
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And as I was studying the word,

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I was just absolutely
astounded at what I found

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because I'm just gonna tell you the truth.

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I am a stickler for the word of God.

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The Word of God is the
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It doesn't matter what I think.

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It doesn't matter anything,
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What matters is what the
word of God actually says.

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And if I had found that it says, sit down

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and shut up, even though
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for 30 years, I would've
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I just figured I have to know the truth.

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And so I began to study
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Denise, the, the revelation
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to unfold to me, I, I was
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I was a pastor's daughter
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I've been in church all
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And I never heard these things.

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Nobody ever teaches on them,
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And so I had never heard
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that are just right there in the Bible.

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And so I began to dig in

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and then from there, the
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I'd be studying and I'd jump
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and I'd say, did you know?

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And he said, Rhonda, I didn't know.

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And just one thing like
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And I said, holy Spirit, this is too good

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for me to keep to myself.

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What am I gonna do with this? Mm.

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And he said, you have a Bible Institute.

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He said, develop a class and teach it. So that's what I did.

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now you have the outline
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Now let's do a book. Oh.

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So it was really, it
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but I was absolutely
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<v ->Well, Rhonda, you know, I
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and I wrote your forward,
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so excited just at chapter 1,

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chapter 2 of what God showed you through his word.

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<v ->Yes. - Not you just coming up with ideas.</v>

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<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->But through his word,</v>

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what the Bible says about Adam and Eve.

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<v ->Yes. - So would you share
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what the Bible says about Adam and Eve?

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<v ->Yes - of course everybody believes in Adam and Eve. Right.</v>

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<v ->But just go ahead and teach us.</v>

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Well the first I started in Genesis 1. I wanted to see

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what was God's original
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both men and women,

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before Satan got in there
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And till I came to the
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where humans were mentioned
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And it says, God said, let us
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it says, let us make man in our image after our likeness

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and let them have dominion.

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that word male man as in
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I studied it, and I looked it up.

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And it's mankind, which
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because in the King James
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so many people use,

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it puts women in a deficit
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humans are mentioned in the Bible

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because it has influenced
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and what they were created to be.

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<v ->I always thought, okay,
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and then the woman.

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<v ->Yeah - I didn't realize that she was</v>

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inside of him.

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Yes. Yes. And that when
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he wasn't just talking to
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Yes, he was talking to mankind.

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<v ->Yes. And that Genesis 1:26</v>

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through 28 clearly says them, it's plural.

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<v ->Yes - He created them in his likeness</v>

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and in his image it's both of us.

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He, the, the thing is they weren't, God could've created us,

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male and female from the beginning, male and a

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and a spouse, a mate.

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But he didn't, he, he started
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and called them mankind.

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He never referred to him as masculine

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until he separated them.

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But yet, even with that though,

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because a lot of people have,
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to make the Bible say
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but that's not so at all.

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Really. He, in looking at them
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he said, there's something
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So he pulled the woman out of Adam

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and the, the male part, he left Adam,

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and then they gave her a new name Eve.

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But it wasn't until they were separated

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that they were referred to
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It was always just the human.

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It was honestly more a designation

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of species than a name Adam,
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that's the Hebrew word for mankind. I didn't realize that.

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So yeah.

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I mean, but he made us
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gave them together,

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created them both together in
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And then he gave them both authority

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because they were there together.

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Yes. And then he separated them later.

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<v ->And, and, and Rhonda,
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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->And I understood,</v>

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and this is speaking
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Yes. But I understood that man and woman, they are

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one - Right - In the beginning. They are one.

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<v ->Yes. They're yes. - And I understood that God took Eve</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->Out of Adam.</v>
<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->And that in marriage, in
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that's the only way

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that God brings them together as one

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again. - It's a beautiful picture of

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how it was in the garden

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and how he intended it
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That together we are one; together,

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we are hand in hand ruling

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and reigning over the forces of darkness -

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Yes - and over the earth counterparts, the scripture says

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->When you study it out,
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in fact, one of the definition
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completing parts.

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Wow. I love that. We
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<v ->Well, and it says in Genesis, Adam said,</v>

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you are bone of my bone.

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<v ->Yes. And flesh of my flesh. Yes. Yes.</v>

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They were the same substance.

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They were of the same substance.

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So you can't say one is
better than the other.

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If they were created at the
exact same time from the

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exact same thing.

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<v ->just the two were separated later.</v>

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<v ->Yes. - And and I know some
people say, well, it says rib,</v>

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it says rib in the King James,

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but the actual Hebrew
word is tsela - T-S-E-L-A,

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which can mean one rib,

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but it can also mean up
to one half of the person.

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So he took, he took him
and divided him into two,

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but he took the one that
was originally created.

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So you can't even say
Adam was created first and

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therefore he should be
know man was created first,

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or he should be dominant

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because they, he wasn't created first.

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They were created at the same time.

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<v ->Yes - they were just later separated.</v>

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And I love it because the act

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of marriage coming together in
marital sexual relations is a

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beautiful picture of Yes.

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Of the two as one.

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<v ->Yes. And that's why it's
called holy matrimony. Yes. Yes.</v>

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<v ->100%. - And then, then when
I read it, I thought, well,</v>

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that's why adultery is an abomination.

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<v ->Yeah - because that is just the wrong</v>

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picture of - What Jesus

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<v ->Created. Yes, it is.</v>

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<v ->And so when husband</v>

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and wife come together,

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they become one as they were in the

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beginning.

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Yes. Yes. That's so beautiful.
Yes. One in a different way.

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Yes. But, but one nonetheless.

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<v ->Yes. And that's holy.
Yes, it is matrimony.</v>

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<v ->It's, that's so</v>

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<v ->Powerful.</v>

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Yes. It's just a picture
of what it was meant

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<v ->To be. I</v>

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<v ->I absolutely love</v>
<v ->That. Yeah. And</v>

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<v ->That woman is not less than men.</v>

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<v ->Yeah - that they were created equal.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->And, and,</v>

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and I just wanna say to you
that you're listening that

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Rhonda's book,

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and these programs are
not about I am woman,

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hear me roar, I'm gonna
take over the world.

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I'm gonna take over my husband.

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I'm gonna be the head of my home.

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That is not what we're talking about.

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<v ->100%. - We are talking
about recognizing the truth</v>

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that's in God's word

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and saying yes to what God's word says.

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<v ->Yes. - But in these programs, we want to give knowledge</v>

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to you of what God's word says.

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Because Rhonda, I can honestly tell you,

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I did not know this.

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Wow. I did not know this.

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I just thought that God created man 1st: woman was 2nd.

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Yeah. As a helper. As a helper.

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Now let's talk about that
word where it says in Genesis

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that she was his help
mate. Yes. Talk about that

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<v ->Word.</v>

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Yeah. The word help there
is the Hebrew word easer,

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and it means that she adds
a supply that he lacked.

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But I went back

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and I looked at every time

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that word was used in the old covenant,

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in the Old Testament, just to see how else

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that word was used.

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It was used 21 times in the Old Testament:

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2 times referring

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to Eve there in Genesis: 3 times it referred

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to nations that Israel called on

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for help when they were under siege.

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Now let's just stop right there.

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If you are under siege as a nation,

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you wouldn't call an inferior

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people to help you.

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You would call somebody
that's at least as strong

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as you are, if not stronger than you are,

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who can add their supply on your behalf.

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In other words, if someone
was breaking into my home,

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I wouldn't call my 2-year-old to help me.

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No. I'd call my husband or the police

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or whoever was of a, you know,
equal strength or greater

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because they wouldn't call on somebody

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who was weaker than they
were if they couldn't

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rescue themselves.

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And, but I think the way
we have used the word help

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or helper in our modern
vocabulary has greatly

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misled people.

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Because when we say a helper, we think

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of maybe a less skilled
assistant who hands tools.

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Oh. To the more skilled
person who's laboring. A

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<v ->Hundred percent.</v>

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When I got, when I married
my husband, I recognize

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that I'm his help helpmate.

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Yes. But I'm his helpmate
to do, you know, I'm lizer

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of course he's the one

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and I'm supposed to get
under him and help him.

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Well, I am supposed to. Yeah. There is

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<v ->Truth in</v>
<v ->That.</v>

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I am supposed to help him.

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<v ->Yes - But I'm not to see myself as less</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->or put the gifts and callings that God has put in me</v>

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and say that they're nothing.

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Yes. And now I'll just
put those over to the side

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and I'll just help my husband,

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which I wanna help my
husband. Yes. And you should.

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<v ->Yep. - But helping my
husband is not just putting</v>

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aside everything that
God put inside of me.

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<v ->Right. It's, and act like
acting like it's not there.</v>

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It's you adding your strength, your gifts,

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your abilities That's right.

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On their behalf to help
ensure their success and your

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success. - Right.

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<v ->It's a, it's a partnership
Absolutely. A team.</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->And I don't think,</v>

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it's just makes me sad when
married couples don't even

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realize they're on the same team.

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They fight against each other

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and they pull, well,
it's, I want it my way.

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Well, I want it my way. We're a team.

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I minister to my husband, he ministers to me.

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We bless each other.

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I use my strength to make him a success.

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He uses his strength to make me a success.

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That's what it means to be a helpmate.

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And, and the other 16 times

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that word helper is used in
the old covenant, it refers

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to God himself as our helper.

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So there is absolutely no way
you could say the helper is

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inferior to the one being
helped when God calls himself

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that. You would never say God's inferior to mankind

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or even think that you'd be stupid if you did.

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No, it, it has no connotation of weakness

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or inferiority.

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God says, I am your helper.

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That means he's adding his strength behind us on our behalf.

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And, and really the thing

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that really just stopped me
in my tracks is when I thought

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about the fact that God, the very first thing

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that God called a woman is
a name he calls himself.

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I was blown away.

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I was absolutely blown away at that. He call,

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he called us what he calls himself.

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It's just that our
modern usage of that has,

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has twisted our thinking of
what it means to be a helper.

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God has put gifts and graces

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and abilities inside every one of us.

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And everybody has a supply
of the spirit for each other

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and for the body of Christ.

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And no one has a lesser gift

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or a gift that's not important.

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God, if he put, if when he
called you, when he came

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to live on the inside of you,

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he activates those
gifts that are in there.

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And he needs you to use them
to benefit the body of Christ.

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You're not just some inferior

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or worthless helper that
has no real purpose.

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No. God has purpose for every human being.

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Purpose and gifts and graces

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and abilities that the body
of Christ in the world needs.

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<v ->And you know, Rhonda, in our society,</v>

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in this fallen world,

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<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->It's like we've been
trained to, even as women,</v>

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our little girls, to believe that I am the,

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I am the lesser one.

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<v ->Yeah. - If you get married,
I am the lesser one. Yeah.</v>

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He is the important one.

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<v ->Yeah - But that is just not true. - It</v>

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is just not true. You are

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<v ->Are important together.</v>

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Yes. And, and it makes sense
that God would, would want us

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to bring, I'm speaking about a woman

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to bring her supply, to help

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him. - Yes.

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<v ->You have to recognize
what's in you bring it instead</v>

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of diminishing it.

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<v ->Right.</v>
<v ->And recognize it</v>

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and bring it forth so that it can,

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you can operate as a team.

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<v ->Yes - And it would be the enemy that would try</v>

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to diminish who we are in our minds

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and our hearts as women.

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<v ->Yes. - So that we'll
hide in the shadow and not,</v>

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<v ->And never bring forth our gift.</v>

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<v ->And never bring forth our gifts.</v>

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<v ->It's so true. It's absolutely the truth.</v>

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<v ->And, and,</v>

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and I just know that
what we've been taught,

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what I was taught as a
child, as a teenager,

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as a young wife in the church

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->I was not taught the truth.</v>
<v ->Yes.</v>

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<v ->That God made me to be that helper.</v>

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<v ->Yes.</v>
<v ->And to bring forth what</v>

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<v ->He put inside of me.</v>

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Right. In all of its
beauty, in all of its power,

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in all of its glory.

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With the glory of God all over it.

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You know, he brought Eve
and stood her before Adam

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and they stood face to face.

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That's how God intended it to be.

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Not one standing and the other.

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One, one standing behind each
other, but but face to face.

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<v ->Wow. - And it brings to
my mind a picture of, of men</v>

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and women standing face-to-face, holding hands, even

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above a globe or the earth, ruling

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and reigning together, hand in
hand each using their gifts,

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their strengths, their
graces, their abilities to,

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to help the world.

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<v ->And and again, I wanna
emphasize this is not a,</v>

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this is not about I am woman, move over.

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No, it's so far from that.

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<v ->Yeah. - It's just recognizing the truth of God's word</v>

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and stepping forward with the gifts

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and callings that you've
been given by God.

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And just think of it, if
God's given you something

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to give out to others,
even to your own children,

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and you step back

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and say, well, I'm gonna
wait for my husband.

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I'm not gonna give what God's given me.

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I'm just gonna wait back here.

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I'm just gonna hide what's here.

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Then you're not giving your supply.

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<v ->Yeah. I think that's displeasing to God: dishonoring</v>

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of the gifts and the graces he's put in you

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because he put stuff in
you that the world needs.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->Your family needs.</v>

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<v ->Rhonda, this is so good.</v>

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And I just want you, I for sure want you

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to get this book

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and I want you to get the series, the 5-part video series

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and the study guide

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and of God's Heart for Women.

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I can't emphasize it enough

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that we women we need the truth.

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Yeah. Men need the truth also

480
00:21:57.970 --> 00:22:02.530
because I know that when
you both believe a lie,

481
00:22:02.530 --> 00:22:07.390
then, then we're not living
in the truth of God's word

482
00:22:07.390 --> 00:22:10.690
and we're living below
what he called us to.

483
00:22:10.690 --> 00:22:13.900
And so I want you to stay with us

484
00:22:13.900 --> 00:22:17.920
'cause I'm coming right back
and we're gonna pray together

485
00:22:17.920 --> 00:22:20.230
and, and I'm gonna pray for you.

486
00:22:20.230 --> 00:22:22.600 line:15% 
And Rhonda's gonna pray for you

487
00:22:22.600 --> 00:22:27.250 line:15% 
that we would step aside
from our old thinking,

488
00:22:27.250 --> 00:22:29.800 line:15% 
our unrenewed thinking

489
00:22:29.800 --> 00:22:33.460 line:15% 
and accept who we are as women.

490
00:22:33.460 --> 00:22:35.920 line:15% 
Yeah. And who God called us to be.

491
00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:37.960 line:15% 
And again, I wanna say it's not about us

492
00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:38.980 line:15% 
taking over the world.

493
00:22:38.980 --> 00:22:40.840 line:15% 
It is not about that.

494
00:22:40.840 --> 00:22:45.340 line:15% 
It's about recognizing
the truth of God's word

495
00:22:45.340 --> 00:22:49.990
and realizing the power
of God that's on the

496
00:22:49.990 --> 00:22:53.590
inside of you and what you have to give

497
00:22:54.850 --> 00:22:55.870
<v ->For generations.</v>

498
00:22:55.870 --> 00:22:58.960 line:15% 
Women in the church have been
taught that they are secondary

499
00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.180 line:15% 
to or weaker than men.

500
00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:03.190 line:15% 
Or that Eve's failure in the Garden

501
00:23:03.190 --> 00:23:07.900 line:15% 
of Eden disqualifies them from being fully used by God.

502
00:23:07.900 --> 00:23:12.490 line:15% 
But this is not God's will. In - How God Sees You -

503
00:23:12.490 --> 00:23:15.340 line:15% 
Denise Renner with guest Rhonda Garver,

504
00:23:15.340 --> 00:23:17.710 line:15% 
you will learn biblical truths about women

505
00:23:17.710 --> 00:23:21.760 line:15% 
that combat deception around subjects like: The true meaning

506
00:23:21.760 --> 00:23:26.110 line:15% 
of Eve's title - Helper: the role of women in ministry:

507
00:23:26.110 --> 00:23:28.570 line:15% 
the best way to follow your calling in the face

508
00:23:28.570 --> 00:23:30.490 line:15% 
of adversity - and more.

509
00:23:30.490 --> 00:23:33.910 line:15% 
This compelling 5-part series is available in digital

510
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511
00:23:37.750 --> 00:23:39.850 line:15% 
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512
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we are offering you the
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513
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514
00:23:47.750 --> 00:23:50.960
These inspiring books will
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515
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:52.940
that God wants to use you

516
00:23:52.940 --> 00:23:55.310 line:15% 
and will equip you to boldly carry out his

517
00:23:55.310 --> 00:23:57.200 line:15% 
calling on your life.

518
00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:00.110 line:15% 
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519
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521
00:24:06.470 --> 00:24:09.500 line:15% 
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522
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523
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524
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525
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526
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<v ->Hasn't this been wonderful?</v>

527
00:24:21.290 --> 00:24:24.470
I told you you were gonna
love every minute of this.

528
00:24:24.470 --> 00:24:26.180
And Rhonda, thank you so much

529
00:24:26.180 --> 00:24:27.950
for being on this program with me.

530
00:24:27.950 --> 00:24:30.920
<v ->Thank you for having me.
Honestly, I'm just so happy.</v>

531
00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:32.690
I just wanna help women

532
00:24:32.690 --> 00:24:35.450
and I'm so thankful for you helping me to do that.

533
00:24:35.450 --> 00:24:38.600 line:15% 
<v ->And Rhonda, I'm so glad you wrote this book.</v>

534
00:24:38.600 --> 00:24:41.510 line:15% 
<v ->Thank you - God's Heart for Women. This</v>

535
00:24:41.510 --> 00:24:43.790 line:15% 
and as I told you on the program,

536
00:24:44.660 --> 00:24:48.890 line:15% 
when I read this book, he was
like setting me free on the

537
00:24:48.890 --> 00:24:53.660 line:15% 
inside to step out of the old thinking

538
00:24:53.660 --> 00:24:56.420 line:15% 
that I had been taught for so many years.

539
00:24:56.420 --> 00:24:59.630 line:15% 
And you know what you think is who you are.

540
00:25:00.950 --> 00:25:05.210 line:15% 
The Bible says, as a man thinks in his heart, so is he. Yes.

541
00:25:05.210 --> 00:25:09.860 line:15% 
So if you think you are
less, then you will be less.

542
00:25:09.860 --> 00:25:13.130 line:15% 
If you recognize what God says about you

543
00:25:13.130 --> 00:25:18.130
and that you've been made as a helper

544
00:25:18.530 --> 00:25:21.350
and to bring strength

545
00:25:21.350 --> 00:25:25.250
and help only with a full supply,

546
00:25:25.250 --> 00:25:28.070
not hiding part of it in the background,

547
00:25:28.070 --> 00:25:33.070
but with a full supply to your
husband, to your children,

548
00:25:33.260 --> 00:25:35.240
to your workplace.

549
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:38.750
Ladies, we don't have
anything to apologize about

550
00:25:38.750 --> 00:25:42.140
when it comes to how God created us.

551
00:25:42.140 --> 00:25:45.920
He wants us to recognize
the power that we have.

552
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:47.600
Rhonda, let's just pray.

553
00:25:47.600 --> 00:25:50.180 line:15% 
Father, right now, the name
of Jesus. Yes. Thank you Lord.

554
00:25:50.180 --> 00:25:54.050 line:15% 
I pray for every single
person that's listening

555
00:25:54.050 --> 00:25:57.265 line:15% 
and that they would humble
themselves right now.

556
00:25:57.265 --> 00:25:58.400 line:15% 
Thank you Lord, to the word of

557
00:25:58.400 --> 00:25:59.270
<v ->God. Yes.</v>

558
00:25:59.270 --> 00:26:02.000 line:15% 
<v ->And say, Lord, this is the truth.</v>

559
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.470 line:15% 
And I take your truth
as my truth right now,

560
00:26:06.470 --> 00:26:09.920 line:15% 
and I wanna move forward
as that woman of God

561
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:12.470 line:15% 
that you've called me to be.

562
00:26:12.470 --> 00:26:16.910 line:15% 
And I pray in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen.

563
00:26:16.910 --> 00:26:20.930
And if you need prayer, please
don't hesitate to call us.

564
00:26:20.930 --> 00:26:24.200 line:15% 
'cause we have a powerful
prayer team waiting

565
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.500 line:15% 
to receive your call and pray with you.

566
00:26:27.500 --> 00:26:29.240
Well, I'll see you next time.

567
00:26:30.080 --> 00:26:31.460
<v ->Hey friends, my wife</v>

568
00:26:31.460 --> 00:26:33.170
and I are coming to the United States

569
00:26:33.170 --> 00:26:36.860 line:15% 
to hold some wonderful meetings. On Friday, January 16th,

570
00:26:36.860 --> 00:26:39.440
we're coming to Bradenton, Florida

571
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:43.320 line:15% 
to the Happy Gospel Church, to A Friends in Ministry

572
00:26:43.320 --> 00:26:45.720 line:15% 
with Roberts Liardon Meeting.

573
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.990 line:15% 
Then on Sunday, January 18th, we are coming to Newark,

574
00:26:48.990 --> 00:26:52.140 line:15% 
Texas to Eagle Mountain International Church to be

575
00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:54.450 line:15% 
with Pastors George and Terri Pearsons

576
00:26:54.450 --> 00:26:57.210 line:15% 
and the whole church. On January 25th,

577
00:26:57.210 --> 00:26:59.580 line:15% 
we're coming to Green Mountain Falls, Colorado

578
00:26:59.580 --> 00:27:02.010 line:15% 
to Legacy Church, to be with Pastors Jeremy

579
00:27:02.010 --> 00:27:06.060 line:15% 
and Sarah Pearsons. On Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

580
00:27:06.060 --> 00:27:08.730 line:15% 
January 30th, 31st and February 1st,

581
00:27:08.730 --> 00:27:12.150 line:15% 
we're coming to Mesa, Arizona, to Vida Church to be

582
00:27:12.150 --> 00:27:15.840 line:15% 
with Pastors Ben and Kara Diaz. On Sunday,

583
00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:19.380 line:15% 
February 8th, we're coming to Southfield, Michigan

584
00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:22.050 line:15% 
to be at Word of Faith with Bishop Keith

585
00:27:22.050 --> 00:27:24.570 line:15% 
and Pastor Deborah Butler.

586
00:27:24.570 --> 00:27:29.040 line:15% 
On Sunday, February 15th, we're coming to Tulsa, Oklahoma

587
00:27:29.040 --> 00:27:31.470 line:15% 
to be at Millennial Church with Pastors Paul

588
00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:33.150 line:15% 
and Karen Brady.

589
00:27:33.150 --> 00:27:35.850 line:15% 
And on Saturday and Sunday, February 21st

590
00:27:35.850 --> 00:27:39.270 line:15% 
and 22nd, we're coming to Midland, North Carolina

591
00:27:39.270 --> 00:27:42.660 line:15% 
to Encounter Church to be with Bishop Alan

592
00:27:42.660 --> 00:27:44.490 line:15% 
and Tera DiDio.

593
00:27:44.490 --> 00:27:47.160 line:15% 
We're waiting to see you there.

594
00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.370 line:15% 
<v ->If you've never received
Jesus as your savior</v>

595
00:27:50.370 --> 00:27:55.370 line:15% 
and Lord, now is the time for you to experience a new life

596
00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:57.750 line:15% 
Jesus has to give you.

597
00:27:57.750 --> 00:28:02.070 line:15% 
Pray this prayer with me right now - Lord,

598
00:28:02.070 --> 00:28:06.750 line:15% 
I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior

599
00:28:06.750 --> 00:28:10.080 line:15% 
and Lord. Wash away my sin

600
00:28:10.080 --> 00:28:12.690 line:15% 
and make me completely new.

601
00:28:12.690 --> 00:28:15.030 line:15% 
I thank you that my sin is removed

602
00:28:15.030 --> 00:28:20.030 line:15% 
and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.

603
00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:25.130
I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord

604
00:28:25.140 --> 00:28:27.750 line:15% 
for the rest of my life.

605
00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:28.583
Amen.

