WELCOME BACK TO THE PODCAST, GUYS. I AM JOINED WITH MY
FAMILY. >> FAMILY, FAMILY.
>> JONATHAN, HUSBAND. CATHERINE AKA KK AND POPS AKA
CHIEF RABBI AKA MILES. I DON'T THINK WE CAN PUT CHIEF RABBI
IN THAT EPISODE. >> CHIEF RABBI, SORRY. IN
COMMANDER OF THE GALACTICAL UNIVERSE.
>> PEOPLE WE BOTH NOT ONLY WE DEARLY LOVE, NOT ONLY
DO WE GET ADVICE FROM THEM IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES, BUT THEY
REALLY ARE SPIRITUAL COUNSEL TO US AND THEY HAVE BEEN SO
PROMINENT IN HELPING US UNDERSTAND AND UNPACK THE
SIGNIFICANCE OF ISRAEL. AND IT'S EMBEDDED INTO YOUR
IDENTITY AND YOUR CALLING. AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE
LIVING OUT TODAY. AND SO AS ALL OF THIS CRAZY ANTI-SEMITISM HAS
BEEN POURING OUT ONLINE IN A WAY I'VE NEVER SEEN IN MY
LIFETIME, OF COURSE THERE'S BEEN RAGING ANTI-SEMITISM
OVER THE YEARS. >> AND DAD, YOU GREW UP IN A
TRADITIONAL JEWISH HOME. BOTH OF YOUR PARENTS WERE JEWISH.
AND ALL OF OUR FAMILY LEGACY TO THE BEGINNING OF TIME IS JEWISH.
>> WELL, ON MY MOM'S SIDE, THE NAME IS COHEN, WHICH GOES BACK
TO AARON. SO THERE'S A PRIESTLY LINE THERE. BUT I GREW UP WITH
PEOPLE WHO HAD THE TATTOO FROM THE DEATH CAMPS. THEY NEVER
TALKED ABOUT IT, ABOUT BEING IN THE HOLOCAUST. THEY SURVIVED.
THEY WERE IN NEW YORK SURVIVING AND THRIVING, TRYING TO THRIVE.
BUT THEY NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT UNTIL IT'S BEEN REALLY RECENTLY
WHEN PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE HAVE REALIZED THEIR PASSING FROM THE
SCENE, AND IT'S TIME TO REMEMBER AND TO PASS THAT ON,
BECAUSE LOOK AT THE CHALLENGE FOR YOUR GENERATION TO EVEN
UNDERSTAND HISTORY AND RECOGNIZE THAT THAT WAS A REAL
THING. YOU HAVE VOICES NOW THAT ARE DISPUTING AND USING
REVISIONIST HISTORY TO TRY TO WIPE THAT OUT AS EVEN A THOUGHT.
IT WAS A FACT. >> BUT I WAS NOT FROM A JEWISH
HOME. AND WHEN I SAID, I WANT TO MARRY HIM, MILES, A JEWISH
MAN, MY MOM SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PERSECUTED.
NO, BECAUSE SHE WAS AWARE OF THE HOLOCAUST, SHE WAS AWARE OF THE
ANTI-SEMITISM. AND SHE SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE -- YOU'RE
GOING TO BE -- YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PERSECUTION.
>> DIDN'T I WARN YOU WHEN WE WERE GETTING MARRIED,
I SAID JUST YES. OR DID I WAIT TILL WE WERE MARRIED?
AND THEN I SAID, OH, BY THE WAY. >> YOU WAITED UNTIL WE WERE
MARRIED. >> OKAY.
>> NOT ON PURPOSE, BUT YOU. BASICALLY, HE WOULD TELL ME
THIS AND I WAS LIKE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T BELIEVE HIM. AND IT
WASN'T UNTIL NOT BECAUSE I DENIED THE FACT THAT
ANTI-SEMITISM IS A THING, BUT IN THAT TIME, TO SEE THE CHANGE.
>> RIGHT.
>> AND THE LAST SEVEN YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN MARRIED, SEEING
PEOPLE WHO WERE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF ISRAEL CHANGE AND
SPEWING, I MEAN, JUST HATE AND VITRIOL. I NEVER SUSPECTED THAT.
I NEVER SUSPECTED TO SEE SO MANY CHRISTIANS. THIS IS WHAT'S
BEEN THE MOST ALARMING. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE
GOING TO TACKLE TODAY WITH THE PODCAST, IS WE'RE GOING TO
TACKLE A LOT OF THE THEOLOGICAL STUFF, BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE
PASTORS, YOU GUYS ARE BIBLE SCHOLARS OR STUDENTS OF THE
WORD, AND WE NEED TO TACKLE THIS STUFF BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
NOW TALKING ABOUT REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY OR THE COVENANTS
FULFILLED. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT ARE VERY
IMPORTANT TOPICS. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE YOU GUYS
HERE TODAY, BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN IN MINISTRY
FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW? >> OVER 40.
>> I'M 36 THIS MONTH. >> YEAH. SO ABOUT 40, ALMOST.
>> 40 YEARS. >> SO YOU GOT SOME EXPERIENCE
UNDER YOUR BELT. >> ROAD MILEAGE. YEAH. YOU
KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS SO IMPORTANT FOR CHRISTIANS TO
RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT ESSENTIALLY ABOUT THE JEWS.
IT'S ABOUT THE GOD OF THE JEWS. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ISRAEL,
PRIMARILY. THIS IS ABOUT WHO IS GOD. AS CHARLIE KIRK USED TO
SAY, THERE IS A GOD, AND I'M NOT HIM. YOU KNOW WHO IS GOD?
AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT CHRISTIANS ARE GRAFTED INTO THE
COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL ACCORDING TO EPHESIANS? WHAT
DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF THE MUTUALITY OF POTENTIAL
PERSECUTION? AND WE'RE SEEING IN OUR DAY NOT JUST WHAT'S
COMING UP AGAINST ISRAEL, BUT ALSO CHRISTIANS AROUND THE
WORLD? THERE'S A STEP UP IN PERSECUTION AND EXTINCTION OF
CHRISTIANS IN AFRICA AND OTHER PLACES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE
ARE CONNECTED IN A WAY THAT IS BIBLICAL. I SAY WE'RE
CULTURALLY DISTINCT BUT PROPHETICALLY LINKED, AND
CHRISTIANS NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY COME FROM SO THAT THEY CAN
KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING. AND PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS
LONG, REDEMPTIVE LOVE STORY THAT COMES FROM THROUGH
THE LINE OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB, WHO IS ISRAEL.
AND THEN THANK GOD COMES THROUGH DAVID AND DAVID'S
GREATER SON, THE MESSIAH, JESUS. SO THE WHOLE WORLD CAN BE IN
AND PART OF THIS REDEMPTIVE STORY.
>> YEAH. >> YEP. IT'S NOT -- IT'S
ALL WORKING TOWARDS GOD'S GLORIOUS REDEMPTIVE PLAN FOR
GOOD. BUT THE ENEMY WANTS TO STIR UP STRIFE AND DIVISION
THROUGH ANTI-SEMITISM, TO TURN THE VERY PEOPLE, THE CHURCH,
WHO HAVE A ROLE IN THIS, TO TURN THEM AGAINST THE JEWISH
PEOPLE. BECAUSE WHY IS THE ENEMY -- WHY IS ANTI-SEMITISM
A THING? WHY IS THE DEVIL GOING SO HARD AFTER JEWISH PEOPLE?
WHAT IS -- WHAT'S STIRRING THAT ON?
>> WELL, THINK ABOUT WHEN JESUS CAME,
WHEN HE CAME TO THE EARTH, THE POWER OF THE
POLITICAL AND THE RELIGIOUS WERE TOGETHER TO TRY TO THWART
HIS PURPOSES ON EARTH. RIGHT. SAME THING AS WE'RE WATCHING
FOR HIS RETURN, THE POWER OF THE ENEMY, THE POLITICAL AND
THE SPIRITUAL, RELIGIOUS AND SOMETIMES RELIGION IS COMMUNISM
AND JIHADISM, BUT RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGIES THAT WITHSTAND THE
WORD OF GOD AND THE PROMISES OF GOD, THEY'RE FORMING
AND GETTING STRONGER BECAUSE THE DEVIL KNOWS HIS TIME IS
SHORT, AS WE SAY. AND SO IF HE CAN STOP ISRAEL FROM BEING
ESTABLISHED BECAUSE JESUS IS RETURNING TO JERUSALEM,
ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, ACCORDING TO THE BOOK OF ACTS,
THE SAME JESUS WHO YOU SEE ASCEND LIKE THIS WILL RETURN IN
THE SAME LIKE FASHION. SO HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE
ZECHARIAH SAID THE SAME THING, HE SAID, THE MESSIAH WILL COME
ON THE MOUNTAIN, SPLIT THE MOUNT OF OLIVES IN TWO. FRESH
WATER WILL FLOW TO THE DEAD SEA AND MAKE ALIVE. ONLY MESSIAH
CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? AND SO THE PRESSURE IS THERE TO TRY TO
KEEP THIS TINY LITTLE PLACE FROM BEING ESTABLISHED AND
FLOURISHING FOR TWO REASONS. ONE IS SO THAT MY PEOPLE, THE
JEWISH PEOPLE, CAN COME TO KNOW OUR MESSIAH, AND THE OTHER IS
THAT THE WHOLE WORLD CAN BE BLESSED BY BEING A BLESSING.
BACK TO ISRAEL. THINK OF THE BLESSINGS THAT HAVE COME
THROUGH THE JEWISH PEOPLE. THE WHOLE STORY IS BEING REWRITTEN
NOW, AND THE INCREDIBLE DEPTH OF THE LIES THAT WE'RE SEEING,
IT'S A PHENOMENON, BUT IT'S AS OLD AS TIME.
>> THE MODERN STATE OF ISRAEL IS ACTUALLY NOT EVEN THE FULL
LAND THAT WAS PROMISED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE. SO WHEN
WAS THE LAND PROMISED? >> SO IN GENESIS 12, IT'S
PROMISED TO ABRAHAM. IN GENESIS 15, IT'S PROMISED TO ISAAC,
AND IN GENESIS 17 HE'S PROMISED TO JACOB. AND ALSO IN GENESIS 26
IT'S PROMISED TO ISAAC, AND IN 28 IT'S PROMISED TO JACOB.
SO THERE'S THIS ONGOING --
>> ALL THE SCRIPTURE REFERENCES THAT YOU RATTLED OFF, I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THE TEAM HEARD THEM SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THOSE
INTO THE POST. >> ALSO, I'M GOING TO READ ONE
OF THOSE PASSAGES, BUT I WANT YOU TO GO FIRST.
>> WE'RE GOING TO HAMMER THE BIBLE THROUGHOUT THIS EPISODE
BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE EVERYONE ONLINE IS HAMMERING,
NOT USING SCRIPTURE. IT'S LIKE. >> THEY'RE USING INNUENDOS AND --
>> TAKING SCRIPTURES OUT OF CONTEXT.
>> SO BUT HERE'S A THOUGHT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT PROMISE TO
ABRAHAM ALSO PROMISED -- THE LAND, SPEAKING OF THE LAND
PEOPLE AND THE LAND PROMISED TO ABRAHAM.
>> THE PEOPLE, THE LAND, A SEED.
>> YES, PROMISED TO ABRAHAM, PROMISED TO ISAAC, AND PROMISED
TO JACOB, WHO IS ISRAEL. THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL ARE JACOB'S
SEED. ISRAEL THAT IS EXISTING TODAY ARE THE SONS OF ABRAHAM,
ISAAC, AND JACOB. WE'RE NOT. WE DIDN'T COME HERE SOME OTHER WAY
OR WE DON'T EXIST, WHICH IS ALSO OUT THERE.
>> I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO -- I'M PRETTY SURE I EXIST.
>> CAN I SAY ONE THING REAL
QUICK BECAUSE IT GOES IN PERFECTLY WITH WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING. SO HE'S SAYING IT WASN'T JUST PROMISED TO ABRAHAM,
IT WAS PROMISED TO ISAAC, AND IT WAS PROMISED TO JACOB.
>> AND SO ISRAEL. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
READING THAT VERSE. I WILL BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS YOU. I
WILL CURSE THOSE WHO CURSE YOU. AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WELL,
THAT'S NOT MODERN DAY ISRAEL, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. WELL, THE
CHILDREN, OUR CHILDREN WERE ASKING ME ABOUT THIS WORSHIP
SONG THAT TALKS ABOUT JACOB'S DREAM, ABOUT THE LADDER. AND SO
I'M LIKE, WELL, LET ME READ IT TO Y'ALL. IT'S GENESIS 28 AND
I'M THINKING, EVERYONE'S QUOTING THIS VERSE AND THEY'RE
SAYING, WELL, ABRAHAM WAS ALREADY -- WE'RE THE
SONS OF ABRAHAM, NOT ISRAEL. WELL, IT SAYS, AS JACOB SLEPT,
HE DREAMED OF A STAIRWAY THAT REACHED FROM EARTH UP TO HEAVEN.
AND HE SAW THE ANGELS OF GOD GOING UP AND DOWN THE STAIRWAY.
AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRWAY STOOD THE LORD. AND HE SAID, I
AM THE LORD, THE GOD OF YOUR GRANDFATHER ABRAHAM, AND THE
GOD OF YOUR FATHER ISAAC. THE GROUND YOU WERE LYING ON
BELONGS TO YOU. I'M GIVING IT TO YOU AND YOUR DESCENDANTS.
YOUR DESCENDANTS WILL BE AS NUMEROUS AS THE DUST OF THE
EARTH. THEY WILL SPREAD OUT IN ALL DIRECTIONS TO THE WEST,
EAST, NORTH, AND SOUTH, AND ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH WILL
BE BLESSED THROUGH. WILL BE BLESSED THROUGH YOU AND YOUR
DESCENDANTS. WHAT'S MORE, I AM WITH YOU. I WILL PROTECT YOU
WHEREVER YOU GO, AND ONE DAY I WILL BRING YOU BACK TO THIS
LAND. I WILL NOT LEAVE YOU UNTIL I HAVE FINISHED GIVING
YOU EVERYTHING I HAVE PROMISED YOU.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND IT'S LIKE, HOW CAN YOU ARGUE WITH THAT?
HE'S SAYING THAT TO JACOB.
>> PEOPLE AREN'T READING THE WHOLE BIBLE. THEY'RE EITHER
TAKING THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT. AND THERE'S A GREAT SAYING
IN THEOLOGICAL CIRCLES THAT --
>> WHICH IS WHY WE'RE READING THE BIBLE TO THEM ON YOUTUBE
TO TRY AND HELP. >> YEAH.
>> THAT --
>> SORRY, DAD. >> I'M STREAMING OFF.
>> DERAILED THE RABBI. >> TEXT WITHOUT CONTEXT IS
PRETEXT. IN OTHER WORDS, READING SOMETHING WITHOUT
KNOWING WHERE IT COMES FROM, WHO IT'S GOING TO, WHAT IT'S
ABOUT. AND SOMETIMES IT'S BOTH AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT BOTH AND
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BOTH ANDS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
IN OTHER WORDS, GOD IS BIGGER THAN JUST LINEAR THINKING. HE'S
OUTSIDE OF OUR THINKING, OUTSIDE OF OUR TIME. HIS WAYS
ARE NOT OUR WAYS. HIS WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN OUR WAYS. AND SO HE
CAN ACTUALLY HAVE COVENANTS THAT HE'S FULFILLING WITH
ISRAEL NATIONALLY, AS HE PROMISED, AND REQUIRING US TO
INDIVIDUALLY RECEIVE OUR MESSIAH. AND HE CAN AT THE SAME
TIME BE HAVING A SPIRITUAL ISRAEL THAT DOESN'T DISPLACE
NATURAL ISRAEL, BUT IN FACT, ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GRAFTED
IN BY FAITH IN MESSIAH. A MILLION YEARS AGO, WE TOOK A
GROUP OF PASTORS WE MET IN THE KNESSET WITH BENNY ALON,
WHO AT THE TIME HE'S WITH THE LORD NOW. HE WAS THE MINISTER
OF TOURISM, AND HE'S A RABBI, ORTHODOX RABBI, AND HAVE ALL
THESE PASTORS WITH US. AND HE SAID TO THE GROUP, HE
SAID, WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM, AND YOU ARE THE
CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM BY FAITH. BOTH AND, YOU KNOW, ONE DOESN'T
DISPLACE THE OTHER OR NEGATE THE OTHER. ONE IS NOT
SUPERSEDING THE OTHER. SOMETHING GOD HAS BEEN DOING
THROUGH THE JEWISH PEOPLE, WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE NOW,
HISTORICALLY, NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE, AND THE BLESSING OF OUR
REJECTION, AS PAUL SAYS IN ROMANS 9 THROUGH 11, OUR
REJECTION IS SALVATION OF THE WORLD BECAUSE WE SAID, I DON'T
KNOW ABOUT JESUS. SOME OF US DO. YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THIS THING
YOU GUYS DIDN'T GET INTO ACTS 10. YOU'RE WELCOME. BUT,
YOU KNOW, WE JUST, WE REJECTED NATIONALLY. AND SO THE GOSPEL
WENT TO THE ENTIRE WORLD. WHAT A GOOD GOD. OUR REJECTION HAS
BEEN SALVATION OF THE WORLD. BUT WHAT WILL OUR ACCEPTANCE BE?
PAUL SAYS, LIFE FROM THE DEAD. >> AND THAT'S WHAT THE DEVIL
IS INTIMIDATED BY. >> BECAUSE HE'S THE KILLER.
HE'S THE MURDERER. YES. >> YEAH, EXACTLY. AND SO WHEN
YOU UNDERSTAND, WHY IS THERE SUCH A FEROCITY AGAINST THE
JEWISH PEOPLE, IT'S HE IS AFRAID OF THAT COMING ABOUT
BECAUSE PAUL BREAKS DOWN IN ROMANS 11, THIS WHOLE THING,
EVERYONE LISTENING TO THIS PODCAST NEEDS TO GO READ THAT
PASSAGE OF SCRIPTURE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT ONES. UNDERSTANDING GOD'S PROPHETIC PURPOSE FOR
ISRAEL, HIS LOVE FOR ISRAEL. AND PAUL BREAKS IT ALL DOWN.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALSO REALLY POWERFUL IS HE SAYS,
WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO PULL IT UP.
>> THAT'S SMART. >> IT SAYS, MANY OF THE PEOPLE,
THIS IS ROMANS 11:28. MANY OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL ARE NOW
ENEMIES OF THE GOOD NEWS. AND THIS BENEFITS YOU GENTILES, YET
THEY ARE STILL THE PEOPLE HE LOVES. AMEN. BECAUSE HE CHOSE
THEIR ANCESTORS, ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB, GOING BACK TO WHO WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. FOR GOD'S GIFTS AND HIS CALL CAN
NEVER BE WITHDRAWN. AND I WAS LIKE, OH, I MEAN, TOOK MY
BREATH AWAY. THE POWER OF IT SAYS, ONCE YOU GENTILES WERE
REBELS AGAINST GOD. WE WERE REBELS TOO, GUYS. WE WERE IN
SIN TOO. >> Y'ALL WERE CRAZY.
>> YEAH, BUT WHEN THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL REBELLED AGAINST HIM,
AND THIS IS WHAT MILES IS BREAKING DOWN. WHEN ISRAEL
REBELLED AGAINST HIM, GOD WAS MERCIFUL TO THE GENTILES. NOW
THEY ARE REBELS, AND GOD'S MERCY HAS COME TO YOU, SO THAT
THEY TOO WILL SHARE IN GOD'S MERCY. AND THEN PAUL'S LIKE,
HOW WONDERFUL IS GOD? BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE THE MOST
MARVELOUS PLAN, RIGHT? >> SEARCHABLE. IS THAT THE NEW
LIVING TRANSLATION? SINCE THE MODERN I HAVE TO INTERPRET IT
INTO KING JAMES. >> I KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW ALL
THOSE PASSAGES IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE.
>> YOU KNOW, WHAT'S SO FUNNY IS WHEN I WAS STUDYING FOR THIS
EPISODE, IT WAS GIVING ME KING JAMES, AND I WAS LIKE, GIVE IT
TO ME IN NEW LIVING BECAUSE MY BRAIN IS NEW LIVING. BUT IT'S
PRETTY DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S MORE MODERNIZED.
>> IT'S GREAT BECAUSE -- AND IT'S ALSO THE,
THE AUDIENCE THAT WE'RE SPEAKING TO. >> YEAH.
>> BECAUSE I'M THE CATCHER IN THE RYE, YOU KNOW, SO OBTUSE
REFERENCE TO A GREAT NOVEL THAT HAS A HIDDEN MESSIANIC MESSAGE
IN THIS WAY, HIS DESIRE IN THE MIDST OF HIS TEENAGE ANGST
AND HIS TEENAGE LACK OF IDENTITY AND ALL THIS DEPRESSION
THAT HE'S GOING THROUGH,
HE HAS THIS DREAM, THIS RECURRING DREAM
THAT HE'S STANDING IN A FIELD OF RYE AND THAT HE'S ON THE
EDGE OF A CLIFF AND THE CHILDREN ARE FALLING OFF THE
CLIFF, AND HE'S ABLE TO HOLD HIS ARMS OUT AND RESCUE THE
CHILDREN. AND HE'S THE CATCHER IN THE RYE. AND THAT'S WHAT
YOU'RE DOING. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, THE NEXT GENERATION ARE THE
CHILDREN IN THE FIELD, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO OFF A CLIFF
UNLESS WE STAND TO CATCH THEM, YOU KNOW? AND SO WHAT YOU'RE
DOING IS IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY THE SIMPLER TRANSLATION IS
RIGHT ON.
>> THE SPIRIT OF DECEPTION IS LOOSED RIGHT NOW, AND THE
PROPAGANDA IS BEING PLAYED OF ANTI-ISRAEL. AND THAT'S WHAT A
YEAR BEFORE THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED IS, WAS PROPAGANDA,
PROPAGANDA, PROPAGANDA. >> TO GET THE PEOPLE TO BE OKAY
WITH WHAT WOULD TAKE PLACE. >> EXACTLY.
>> SO FILLING THEM WITH HATRED. >> EXACTLY.
>> SO THAT THEY FELT JUSTIFIED. >> YEAH. SO THE SPIRIT OF
DECEPTION. SO LIKE COVID, THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE,
WE CAN SEE THAT SAME SPIRIT. SO THIS SAME LIKE ANTI-SEMITISM IS
A SPIRIT OF DECEPTION. AND WHEN IT COMES WE NEED TO DISCERN
WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? WHAT IS THE FRUIT OF IT? WHERE ARE
THEY GOING WITH THIS? IS THIS DIVISIVE? IS THIS BRINGING ME
TO GOD? WHEN YOU QUOTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WHEN YOU
QUOTED THAT THERE'S A PROPHECY BEING FULFILLED, THE JEWS
RETURNING TO THE LAND, MY EYES BEGAN TO LOOK UP. I BEGAN TO
SAY, MY HOPE IS COMING. IT'S NEAR. IT'S NEAR NOW THAN EVER.
SO IT'S LIKE NOW IT'S PRESENT. AND SO IT RELEASES FAITH.
PROPHECY RELEASES FAITH. THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING IN THIS
SPIRIT OF DECEPTION AND LIES ARE RELEASING UNBELIEF,
CRITICISM, DOUBT AND MURDER IN THEIR HEART.
>> AND ALWAYS FOCUS, BECAUSE THIS IS HOW -- BECAUSE ONE
OF THE THINGS PAUL WARNS TIMOTHY AND JESUS WARNS US AS
WELL IS PAUL WARNS TIMOTHY ABOUT IN THE YOU KNOW, IN THE
LAST DAYS PEOPLE WILL BE THIS WAY. JESUS SAYS, DON'T BE
DECEIVED. HE WARNS ABOUT THAT. SO WE KNOW THAT IN
THE END TIMES, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST DAYS, DECEPTION WILL
BE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. AND WE'RE LIVING IN VERY DECEPTIVE
TIMES. EVEN WITH AI COMING IN, PEOPLE ARE BEING DECEIVED ON A
GRAND SCALE LIKE NEVER BEFORE, AND THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY OF
DECEIVING PEOPLE IN A VERY MASSIVE WAY. RIGHT? SO WE
ALREADY KNOW IN SCRIPTURE IT'S SAYING, DON'T BE DECEIVED. AND
THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS GO BACK TO. WHAT IS THIS INFORMATION
PRODUCING IN ME? BECAUSE IF THIS INFORMATION.
>> WHAT'S THE FRUIT? >> WHAT IS THE FRUIT? IF IT'S
PRODUCING OFFENSE AND HATRED IN ME, THEN THAT'S A RED FLAG
BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOES NOT PRODUCE IN ME A HATRED TOWARDS
ANYONE. GOOD POINT. THE BIBLE SAYS, BLESS THOSE WHO PERSECUTE
YOU, PRAY FOR THOSE. SPEAK LIFE OVER PEOPLE. THE BIBLE IS NEVER
ENCOURAGING ME TO HATE ANYONE. THE BIBLE IS ALWAYS GETTING ME
TO THE POINT THE MIRROR AT MYSELF AND SAY, WHAT DO I
NEED TO REPENT FOR? SO IF SOMETHING IS STIRRING HATE
WITHIN ME, THAT'S A RED FLAG. AND I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT HOW
DOES THE ENEMY WORK. HE'S A DECEIVER, HE'S A LIAR, HE'S A
LABELER. HE LIKES TO PUT LABELS ON PEOPLE. AND BY DOING THAT,
BY LYING AND DECEIVING AND BY LABELING, HE CAUSES PEOPLE TO
GET OFFENDED AND IT HARDENS THEIR HEARTS TOWARDS SOMEONE
WHERE THE LOVE OF GOD CAN'T FLOW THROUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE
OFFENDED. RIGHT. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE HEARING THIS INFORMATION,
OH, THEY'RE THIS, THEY'RE THAT, THEY'RE THIS, ALL THESE LABELS.
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? THE DEVIL IS HE'S THE
ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN. HE'S AN ACCUSER. RIGHT? YOU'RE THIS,
YOU'RE THAT, I MEAN, AND SOMETIMES WE'LL EVEN HEAR HIM
TALK TO US THIS WAY. YOU'RE THIS, YOU'RE THAT. YOU'RE YOU
KNOW, HE'LL MAKE YOU. SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TACTICS
BEHIND THE INFORMATION BEING SAID.
>> YES. AND WHO CAN -- YOU KNOW, THERE ARE COMMANDS
IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW TESTAMENT, IN THE TANAKH,
THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES AND THE NEW TESTAMENT, THERE ARE
COMMANDS TO BELIEVERS. YOU KNOW, ISAIAH TELLS THAT LEADING UP TO
THE FALL FEASTS, THERE ARE SEVEN SABBATHS OF COMFORT, SEVEN
SABBATHS OF CONSOLATION. AND THE FIRST ONE IS ISAIAH 40 AND
IT'S NACHAMU NACHAMU AMI WHICH IS A COMMAND COMFORT YE COMFORT
YE MY PEOPLE. NOW WHO IN THE WORLD CAN COMFORT HIS PEOPLE?
ONLY BORN-AGAIN BELIEVERS IN THE BIBLE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE
BEEN COMFORTED, ACCORDING TO PAUL, 2 CORINTHIANS 15, WE
HAVE BEEN COMFORTED. THEREFORE WE CAN COMFORT THOSE WHO NEED
COMFORT. SO ON AND SO ON. BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES WHO ARE
BORN FROM ABOVE. YOU'RE THE ONES WHO CAN AND ARE,
BY THE WAY, ARE COMMANDED TO COMFORT HIS PEOPLE, HIS
NATURAL BROTHERS AND SISTERS. >> THAT'S POWERFUL. AND YOU
KNOW WHAT I JUST REALIZED? WE NEVER I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
YOU KNOW, ISRAEL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FULFILLED. WE'RE MOVING
ON. THE CHURCH FULFILLED IT, JESUS FULFILLED IT. AND PAUL IS
STATING SO CLEARLY IN ROMANS 11 THAT GOD IS NOT DONE WITH
ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE. AND HE SAYS, THE GIFTS AND THE
CALL OF GOD CAN'T BE TAKEN AWAY. THEY CAN'T BE WITHDRAWN. WHAT
WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THAT VERSE? >> THAT'S A LIFE VERSE FOR US
BECAUSE WE LIVE ROMANS NINE THROUGH 11. ANYBODY WHO'S
WATCHING THIS, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, IF YOU WANT AN ABILITY TO
DISCERN THE VOICES THAT ARE OUT THERE, TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
ACTUALLY SAYING AND WHETHER IT'S BIBLICAL, IF YOU GET A
SIMPLE TRANSLATION AND READ ROMANS NINE THROUGH 11, THREE
CHAPTERS, VERY SIMPLE. GO SLOWLY, PRAY ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW,
ASK, IS THIS TRUE? IS THIS NOT TRUE? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
IT'S A MASTER CLASS IN THE ENTIRE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE
JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS, AND THE ENTIRE CONNECTION BETWEEN
PROPHECY FULFILLED, PROMISES FULFILLED. AND IT'S JUST A JUST
THE WORD OF THE FACT THAT GOD NEVER RESCINDED HIS
PROMISES TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL. WHAT A GREAT WORD FOR
EVERYBODY. THE FACT THAT MY PEOPLE STILL ARE ALIVE AFTER
ALL, A REBELLION AND ALL OF OUR MISHEGAS, YIDDISH FOR CRAZINESS,
ALL OF OUR WANDERINGS AND ALL OF OUR REBELLION, ALL OF OUR
DISOBEDIENCE, THAT HE RESTORED US TO THE LAND WITHOUT BELIEF,
WHICH HE SAID IN EZEKIEL HE WOULD DO. WE DON'T HAVE TO
BECOME, YOU KNOW, IS GOD'S DONE WITH ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY DON'T
BELIEVE IN JESUS? NO. GOD SAID, I'M GOING TO BRING THEM BACK TO
THE LAND IN UNBELIEF, AND THEN I WILL SPRINKLE WATER UPON THEM.
THEN THEY WILL BE BORN OF MY SPIRIT.
>> WHAT VERSE IS THAT? >> THAT'S EZEKIEL 39, 38 AND 39.
>> WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THAT PASSAGE. I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE
GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO BRING IT
BACK BECAUSE, REBECCA, YOU STARTED WITH EZEKIEL. AND
THAT'S THE ANSWER IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE SCATTERED IN
UNBELIEF, GOD SAID, I WILL REGATHER AND I WILL RESTORE YOU.
AND WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME OF RESTORATION. AND RESTORATION IS
THE GREATEST MIRACLE TO WATCH. I MEAN, WE CAN SEE THE BOOK OF
RUTH WHEN THEY'RE BEING RESTORED BACK TO THE LAND, WHEN
THEY'RE COMING OUT OF, OUT OF MOAB, OUT OF A DEATH, OUT OF
DARKNESS AND DYING AND BRINGING, COMING BACK TO THE HOUSE OF
BREAD. AND IT TOOK THE JEW AND THE GENTILE COMING BACK TO THE
HOUSE AND UNDERSTANDING EACH OTHER FOR THE FULL
REDEMPTION TO COME. >> I REMEMBER WHEN, REBECCA, I
THINK I'VE TOLD YOU THIS STORY, BUT WHEN I WAS LIVING IN ISRAEL,
STUDYING HEBREW FULL TIME, GOD GAVE ME A GIFT IN THE CLASS,
THERE WAS A GUY WHO WAS FROM WASHINGTON WHO WAS A LINGUIST,
AND SO HE WAS THE ONLY OTHER AMERICAN IN THIS GROUP. IT WAS
JUST ME, HIM, AND THEN A ROOM FULL OF RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIAN
IMMIGRANTS TO ISRAEL. BUT WHAT WAS SO UNIQUE ABOUT THIS
FRIENDSHIP THAT WE FORMED, WE BOTH HAPPENED TO LIVE IN THE
SAME CITY OUTSIDE OF HAIFA, SO WE RODE THE SAME CARMELIT TRAIN
TO AND FROM CLASS EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND THEN WE ENDED UP
FORMING A FRIENDSHIP. AND SO WE WOULD DO OUR ULPAN HOMEWORK
TOGETHER AFTER CLASS, AND WITHIN THE FIRST COUPLE OF
TIMES OF US BEING TOGETHER, HE STARTED SAYING, WELL, ISRAEL
DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE. BIBLICALLY, IT'S JUST A
HISTORICAL PLACE. AND I'M HERE BECAUSE AS A CHRISTIAN, THERE'S
HISTORY HERE, BUT THERE'S NO RELEVANCE TO MY FAITH TODAY.
AND SO OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAYS AND THE WEEKS I WAS
UNPACKING TO HIM THE RELEVANCE OF IT, AND I REMEMBER IT HIT A
CULMINATION POINT. AFTER WE HAD STAYED TOGETHER FOR WEEKS, WE
WENT AND VISITED A FAMILY IN ARIEL, WHICH IS OUTSIDE
OR IT'S IN SAMARIA. HAVE YOU BEEN THERE, DAD?
>> YEAH, >> YEAH, AND THEY WERE GENTILE
BELIEVERS FROM SOMEWHERE IN EASTERN EUROPE WHO HAD MADE
THAT THEIR HOME, AND THEY'D TURNED THEIR HOME INTO A HOUSE
OF PRAYER, AND WE HAD DINNER WITH THEM AND WE VISITED THEM.
AND I WAS EXPLAINING TO MY FRIEND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. AND ON THE WAY HOME THE NEXT
MORNING, I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THE BEST THING TO
DO IS JUST OPEN UP. AND I GUESS IT WAS A GOD IDEA BECAUSE, I
MEAN, I SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS. I SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIM TO DO THIS
WEEKS BEFORE. BUT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING TO THIS MOMENT. I SAID,
OPEN UP ROMANS NINE AND LET'S READ IT TOGETHER. YOU READ IT
TO ME WHILE I WAS DRIVING. SO HE OPENED UP AND BEGAN TO READ
ROMANS 9, 10 AND 11. AND LET ME TELL YOU, THE PRESENCE OF GOD
FELL SO HARD IN THE CAR. >> OH, WOW.
>> AND HE BEGAN TO WEEP LIKE. >> HE REPENTED.
>> UNCONTROLLABLY, BASICALLY. AND LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND YOU COULD SAY DEBATING, REALLY,
YOU KNOW, OVER THE WEEKS AND MONTHS LEADING UP TO
THIS HIT, LIKE THIS CULMINATION POINT AND I SAW, YOU KNOW, HIM
COMPLETELY CHANGE IN HIS UNDERSTANDING AND THEN BEGIN TO
HAVE A REALLY DEPTH BUILD WITHIN HIM AS FAR AS HIS FAITH.
>> YES. >> SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE
OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. >> AND THAT IS SO --
THAT IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO'S WATCHING THE PODCAST IS GET
INTO THE SECRET PLACE, OPEN UP YOUR BIBLE, AND GENUINELY ASK
THE HOLY SPIRIT TO SHOW YOU WHAT HIS HEART IS FOR ISRAEL,
BECAUSE GOD WILL SHOW IT TO YOU. AND WHEN YOU CONNECT TO GOD ON
A SPIRIT LEVEL LIKE THAT, YOU WILL NEVER -- NOTHING CAN
REALLY DISSUADE YOU AFTERWARDS BECAUSE IT'S WHEN HE SHARES HIS
HEART WITH YOU, IT'S THAT CONNECTION. IT'S NOT KNOWLEDGE,
IT'S SOMETHING DEEPER THAN THAT. >> BUT THAT'S WHY WE GO.
WE'RE BRINGING ANOTHER BUSLOAD IN A FEW WEEKS,
WE'LL BE BACK IN ISRAEL. >> YES, GUYS, THEY DO TOURS.
WE'LL PUT THEIR INFORMATION DOWN HERE.
RIGHT THERE. OKAY. KEEP GOING.
>> BUT ONCE YOU -- THIS IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID. WHAT ALL OF YOU
JUST SAID. ONCE YOU GET ISRAEL BY REVELATION, ONCE YOU SEE IT
BY REVELATION, YOU CAN'T UNSEE IT. SOMETHING HAPPENS. HAPPENS
TO YOUR BIBLE. IT HAPPENS TO YOUR SPIRIT. IT HAPPENS TO YOUR
HEART, YOUR MIND. EVERYTHING GETS REVVED UP AND CHANGED AND
YOU CAN'T UNSEE IT. IT'S JUST THERE AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T.
>> IT MAKES EVERYTHING MAKE WAY MORE SENSE.
FOR ME IT BROUGHT SO MUCH CLARITY.
>> YES.
>> AND THE BIBLE AND EVERYTHING. THE WHOLE PLAN OF GOD MAKES SO
MUCH MORE SENSE. THIS NONSENSE, SORRY, THIS NONSENSE
THAT THE CHURCH REPLACES AND FULFILLS, IT'S LIKE, NO, GOD
KEEPS HIS COVENANTS. HE DOESN'T DROP THE COVENANTS
AND HE'S NOT DONE. >> IF YOU START YOUR BIBLE STUDY
IN MATTHEW, IT'S LIKE COMING INTO A MOVIE
IN THE MIDDLE. YOU KIND OF
KNOW HOW IT ENDS, BUT YOU'RE NOT SURE WHY.
>> YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE THE DISCIPLES.
>> SUCH A GOOD POINT. >> THE DISCIPLES
QUESTION WAS, ARE YOU GOING TO RESTORE YOUR KINGDOM NOW?
AND HE SAID, IT'S NOT FOR YOU TO KNOW
>> WHEN THE KINGDOM WILL BE RESTORED.
BUT HE IS. HE IS. HE IS GOING TO RESTORE HIS
KINGDOM. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE -- HE'S NOT RETURNING
TO DAVOS OR DALLAS, NO OFFENSE.
HE'S COMING TO JERUSALEM. SO WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
HAVE TO CRY OUT, BARUCH ADONAI. THAT'S IN THE BIBLE.
IT'S IN MATTHEW 23:39.
HE SAID TO THE JEWS, YOU WILL NOT SEE ME AGAIN
UNTIL YOU SAY, BARUCH HASHEM ADONAI. THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE
POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT THE CHURCH CARRIES TO CONTINUE
TO LOVE US TO SALVATION, LOVE US TO AN AWARENESS OF JESUS.
HELP US TO SEE JESUS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT HISTORY
FROM THE CHURCH TOWARDS US. AND SO YOU GUYS, THIS GENERATION
HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVERSE THAT. SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO
ME AT ALL THAT THESE CONTRARY WINDS ARE ARISING, THESE REALLY
VILE VOICES THAT ARE TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING THE JEWS FAULT.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST HISTORY. IT JUST HAPPENS.
>> AND I WANT TO GO THERE. BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER THING THAT
YOU SAID THAT I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT. ONE THING IS, IS
THAT THE GOSPELS ACTUALLY DON'T REALLY MAKE THAT MUCH SENSE
UNLESS YOU UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING PRECEDING IT,
BECAUSE JESUS IS THE JEWISH MESSIAH WHO CAME FOR THE HOUSE
OF ISRAEL. EVEN HIS TEACHINGS REALLY DON'T MAKE SENSE. I MEAN,
THERE'S A REASON WHY, WHEN HE'S ASCENDING UP INTO HEAVEN AND
THEY'RE LIKE, AREN'T YOU GOING TO RESTORE ISRAEL?
AND HE'S LIKE, NOT -- YOU KNOW, HE'S LIKE, NOT I DON'T
REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE RESPONSE IS, BUT THERE'S A
REASON WHY THEY'RE EVEN ASKING THAT QUESTION, THEIR
EXPECTATION. I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT
IN THE GOSPELS, YOU CAN ONCE AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID,
YOU CAN TAKE THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HISTORICAL SITUATION
THAT THEY'RE IN. >> HE CAME FIRST TO AS A
SUFFERING SERVANT. HE CAME FIRST AS LAMB OF GOD, BUT HE'S
RETURNING AS THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. THEY WANTED HIM
TO BE THE LION THEN. BUT HE WAS INSTITUTING
WHO HE WAS TO HAVE A LAMB'S NATURE AND WHO HE WANTS
US TO BE IS THE LAMB'S NATURE. AND THAT WAS THE, YOU KNOW,
I WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THAT MEMORY WHEN MOM'S -- MY MOM
SAID, WELL, YOU'LL PROBABLY BE PERSECUTED. WELL, I GOT TO MY
SECRET PLACE. I WENT TO THE SECRET PLACE. AND THE LORD SAID
THAT, YES, I AM. I CAME AS AS I CAME TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE
FIRST AND I CAME. >> WHAT DID HE SAY? HE SAID --
YOU SAID, CAN YOU LOVE A JEW? >> I SAID, WELL, THAT'S
WHAT I WAS WITNESSING TO DAD. >> SHE'S TRYING TO GET ME TO
JESUS. CAN YOU SAVE A JEW? >> OH, THAT'S RIGHT, JONATHAN,
BECAUSE IT HAPPENED BEFORE MY MOM HAD SAID THAT. HE SAID, I
SAID, GOD, CAN YOU SAVE A JEW? AND HE SAID, NOT ONLY CAN I
SAVE A JEW, BUT I CAME AS ONE, AND I'M IDENTIFYING -- AND I GOT
THE IMPRESSION THROUGH MY --THROUGH THE SPIRIT OF GOD THAT
HE WAS STILL IDENTIFYING AS A JEW, BECAUSE THEN HE SAID, AND
I WILL RETURN AS A LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. SO I WAS
FOREVER MARKED, AND I CONSIDER THAT A HOLY THING, BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS ON EARTH HERE. IT'S NOT TO BE
COMFORTABLE, IT'S TO BE CONFORMED TO HIS LIKENESS AND
IMAGE. AND HE WAS THAT LAMB. HE WAS THAT SACRIFICE.
>> AND THAT PERFECTLY LEADS TO ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT POINT
THAT I WANT TO MAKE, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAMB
NATURE OF CHRIST. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CIRCULATING ON
THE INTERNET IS, OH, WELL, THE JEWS KILLED JESUS. AND THAT IS
SUCH AN OFFENSIVE REMARK, BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES IT STIR
UP HATE, BUT IT DEVALUES THE SACRIFICE THAT JESUS GAVE HIS
LIFE FOR US. AND JESUS SAYS IN JOHN 10, HE SAYS, THE FATHER
LOVES ME BECAUSE I SACRIFICE MY LIFE, SO I MAY TAKE IT BACK
AGAIN. NO ONE CAN TAKE MY LIFE FROM ME. I SACRIFICED IT
VOLUNTARILY, FOR I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO LAY IT DOWN WHEN I
WANT AND TO TAKE IT UP AGAIN. FOR THIS IS WHAT MY FATHER HAS
COMMANDED. THAT'S IN THE BIBLE FOR A REASON. HE LAID HIS LIFE
DOWN. WE KNOW IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THE FORESHADOWING OF
THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB. WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT JOHN THE BAPTIST
CALLS JESUS, BEHOLD THE LAMB WHO TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE
WORLD. THE JEWS DID NOT KILL JESUS. MY SIN KILLED JESUS, OUR
SIN. ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING, YOUR SIN KILLED JESUS. IT'S NOT TO
BLAME A PEOPLE GROUP TO STIR UP A HATRED THAT GOD -- OF A
PEOPLE THAT GOD HAS CHOSEN. BUT IT'S TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR SIN
PUT HIM ON THE CROSS, AND HE LAID HIS LIFE DOWN FOR US AS A
SACRIFICIAL LAMB, SO THAT WE MAY BE FORGIVEN AND HAVE
ETERNAL LIFE. AND SO THERE SHOULD BE NO HATRED TOWARDS THE
JEWISH PEOPLE IN REGARDS TO THAT, BECAUSE GOD STATES
CLEARLY IN HIS WORD, I LAID MY LIFE DOWN FOR YOU. HE WAS THE
SACRIFICE. AND IT SAYS, FOR THE SON OF MAN, THIS IS IN MARK,
CAME NOT TO BE SERVED, BUT TO SERVE OTHERS. THERE'S THAT LAMB
NATURE, AND TO GIVE HIS LIFE AS A RANSOM FOR MANY. HE
SACRIFICED HIS LIFE FOR US. >> YEAH, YEAH.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE STORYLINE OF CHRIST KILLERS,
THE EPITHET, THE BLAME, WHAT I GREW UP WITH IN NEW YORK,
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THAT WAS NORMAL IS,
YOU KNOW, HAS -- >> HASN'T THAT BEEN A THING FOR
THOUSANDS OF YEARS? >> YES.
>> WHICH IS HORRIBLE. AND THAT'S ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT'S CAUSED A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH ANTI-SEMITISM.
>> BAD TEACHING, BAD DOCTRINE.
>> IT'S DOCTRINE OF DEVILS THAT GOES BACK TO THE VERY, VERY
EARLY CHURCH, WHEN THE CHURCH SPLIT FROM THE JEWISH ROOTS OF
THE FAITH. AND THEN 325 A.D. WHEN CONSTANTINE MADE IT
OFFICIAL THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, THE
WHOLE FIRST CHURCH WAS JEWISH. IT WASN'T UNTIL ACTS 10
WHEN -- >> BASED IN JERUSALEM.
>> BASED IN JERUSALEM. ALL JEWISH UNTIL ACTS CHAPTER 10,
AND THEN ACTS 15. WE SAID, YOU
DON'T HAVE TO GET CIRCUMCISED. YOU'RE WELCOME.
YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF THEN GREW
BECAUSE GOD WAS GOD SO MERCIFUL, WHICH YOU ALLUDED TO.
HE'S SO MERCIFUL THAT HE BROUGHT THE MESSAGE OF
SALVATION TO THE WHOLE WORLD. BUT IT STARTED WITH THE JEWS.
BUT WHEN THAT DIVISION CAME BETWEEN THE HEBREW ROOTS OF THE
FAITH, SO-CALLED AND THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH, WHICH BECAME
A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION, ALWAYS A REMNANT IN EVERY
GENERATION, ALWAYS A BORN AGAIN, SPIRIT-FILLED REMNANT IN EVERY
GENERATION. I HAVE NO HEARTBURN ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT DIVISION
IS NOW WHAT GOD'S TRYING TO HEAL. SO NO WONDER THE VOICES
THAT ARE RISING UP ARE SO ADAMANT AND SO VIOLENT AGAINST
THE JEWS, BECAUSE TRYING TO BRING THAT DIVISION IN THE BODY
TO COME, THE BODY OF CHRIST TODAY, AND ALSO THE BODY TO
COME, WHICH IS JEWS AND GENTILES WORSHIPING TOGETHER,
THAT'S THE HEART OF GOD. [ SPEAKING HEBREW ]
BEHOLD HOW GOOD AND HOW PLEASANT IT IS
WHEN THE BRETHREN DWELL TOGETHER IN UNITY.
GOD SAID IT THROUGH DAVID IN PSALM 133 AND THEN HE
SAID, JESUS SAID IT HIMSELF IN JOHN 17 THAT WE MAY BE ONE, AS
YOU AND I ARE ONE. HE SAID, GO TO THE FATHER, RIGHT, SO THAT
UNITY IS WHERE GOD COMMANDS THE BLESSING. SO OF COURSE, THE
ENEMY IS STIRRED UP TO TRY TO STIR UP THESE REALLY IGNORANT
VOICES TO TRY TO PEEL OFF CHRISTIANS FROM THEIR NATURAL,
NATURAL UNDERSTANDING, SUPERNATURALLY NATURAL
UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONNECTION BETWEEN JEWS
AND CHRISTIANS. >> AND TO LOVE THE JEWISH
PEOPLE DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HATE ANYBODY ELSE. GOD SO LOVED
THE WHOLE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS LIFE FOR THE
PALESTINIANS, FOR THE MUSLIMS, FOR ALL PEOPLE. AND I
WANT TO SAY ALSO, JERUSALEM IS HOLY TO THREE, BUT PROMISED TO
ONE. I MEAN, JERUSALEM IS NOT APARTHEID STATE. YOU HAVE
MUSLIMS THERE, ARABS THERE, EVEN IN THE PARLIAMENT, AND YOU
HAVE CHRISTIANS THAT ARE FREE TO GO AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT
TO DO AS THE PILGRIMS GET TO DO. AND ACTUALLY, THEY'RE --
THEY'RE INVITED AND HONORED BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE
A SHARED DESTINY. SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT. I MEAN, WHEN
WE FIRST CAME TO THE LORD AND RECEIVED THIS CALL, THE HOLY
SPIRIT ALSO SPOKE TO US AND SAID, YOU CANNOT -- YOU CANNOT
FULFILL THIS CALL UNLESS YOU LOVE YOUR ARAB COUSINS. SO WE
HAVE ALWAYS MADE IT A POINT IN OUR MINISTRY TO SUPPORT ARAB
MINISTRIES AND TO SEEK THE GOOD OF THEM TOO, THE PERSIANS AND
PALESTINIANS AND GAZANS AND THE DRUZE, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE
BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE THAT GOD HAS MADE IN HIS IMAGE. BUT EACH
NATION HAS A SPECIFIC CALLING AND PURPOSE AND DESTINY, AND WE
CAN'T NEGATE WHAT GOD'S DESTINY IS ON ISRAEL.
>> YEAH. >> YEAH, BECAUSE IT SAYS AND
YOU'RE GOING BACK TO -- THIS IS WHY I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
BELIEVERS. IF YOU'RE HATING SOMEONE, THAT'S NOT BIBLICAL,
IT SAYS YOU HAVE HEARD THE LAW SAYS LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
AND HATE YOUR ENEMY. BUT JESUS SAYS, BUT I SAY, LOVE YOUR
ENEMIES AND PRAY FOR THOSE WHO PERSECUTE YOU. AND THAT'S WHY
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU HAVE LOVED ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS,
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOD CALLS US TO DO.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> YEAH, WELL.
>> NOT EASY. >> IMPERFECTLY, I WAS ABOUT TO
SAY. >> EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
>> YEAH, WE HAVE DONE IT IMPERFECTLY.
>> THAT'S THE CALL OF THE KINGDOM.
WE KEEP REFERENCING EZEKIEL 36, AND I HAVE NOT
HEARD ANYONE ONLINE QUOTE THIS SECTION OF SCRIPTURE, BUT THIS
IS EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE MIRACLE THAT OF
PEOPLE 2,000 YEARS FROM MULTIPLE NATIONS THROUGH MULTIPLE
SEVERE PERSECUTIONS, INQUISITION, THE HOLOCAUST,
WHAT IS THE ONE IN RUSSIA? >> POGROMS.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN, EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE.
PEOPLE THINK JUST LIKE THE HOLOCAUST.
>> THAT'S HOW I GOT TO AMERICA.
>> OH, YEAH. MY FAMILY LEFT RUSSIA AND POLAND
BECAUSE OF THE POGROMS THEY HAD. THEY CAME TO AMERICA
AT THE END OF THE 19TH CENTURY. MY DAD WAS BORN IN AMERICA.
>> AND THE CRUSADES TOO, YOU SAID THE INQUISITION.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S A TON. AND I MEAN TO STILL REMAIN. AND SO
GOD SAYS, AND THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT THAT I WANT TO
MAKE CLEAR WHEN I'M READING THE SCRIPTURE AND IT SAYS IT IN THE
SCRIPTURE BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THE JEWISH PEOPLE DO THIS,
AND ISRAEL DOES THIS, AND THEY'RE BAD. WELL, GOD'S NOT
EVEN DOING IT FOR THEM. IT SAYS, FOR THE GLORY AND HONOR OF MY
NAME, BECAUSE HE IS FAITHFUL. THERE'S A BIBLE VERSE THAT SAYS,
EVEN IF WE ARE FAITHLESS, HE REMAINS FAITHFUL BECAUSE THAT'S
WHO HE IS. HE'S A KEEPER OF HIS WORD. PRAISE GOD. SO IT SAYS IN
EZEKIEL 36, AND THIS IS PROPHESIED THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED. IT SAYS,
THEREFORE, GIVE THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL THIS MESSAGE FROM THE
SOVEREIGN LORD, I AM BRINGING YOU BACK, BUT NOT BECAUSE YOU
DESERVE IT. I'M DOING IT TO PROTECT MY HOLY NAME ON WHICH
YOU BROUGHT SHAME WHILE YOU WERE SCATTERED AMONG THE
NATIONS. I WILL SHOW HOW HOLY MY GREAT NAME IS, THE NAME ON
WHICH YOU BROUGHT. ANYWAYS. KEEP GOING. I WILL REVEAL MY
HOLINESS THROUGH YOU BEFORE THEIR VERY EYES, SAYS THE
SOVEREIGN LORD. THEN THE NATIONS WILL KNOW THAT I AM THE
LORD. FOR I WILL GATHER YOU UP FROM ALL THE NATIONS, AND BRING
YOU HOME AGAIN TO YOUR LAND. AND THEN I WILL SPRINKLE CLEAN
WATER ON YOU. SO HE GATHERS THEM FIRST.
>> YEP. IN SIN. >> YEAH. IN THERE HE SAYS,
YOU'RE BRINGING SHAME ON MY NAME, BUT I'M GOING TO
GATHER YOU. >> KIND OF LIKE OUR INDIVIDUAL
SALVATION. >> EXACTLY.
>> I DIDN'T GET CLEANED UP AND GET SAVED. I GOT SAVED, AND
THEN I GOT SORT OF CLEANED UP. >> AMEN. YOU REMEMBER
WHEN I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO MOVE TO ISRAEL TO LIVE THERE,
I READ THAT SCRIPTURE TO YOU AND YOU'RE LIKE, THERE GOES
MY SON, THE SPRINKLER.
>> SPRINKLING CLEAN WATER.
>> THAT'S WHAT HE SAID TO ME. >> THAT'S HILARIOUS.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. THAT'S PRETTY FUNNY. YEAH.
>> AND IT'S LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE HATING AND --
WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HATE AND JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE. IT'S LIKE
WE WERE A MESS FIRST. HELLO? IT SAYS, THEN I WILL SPRINKLE
CLEAN WATER ON YOU AND YOU WILL BE CLEAN, YOUR FILTH WILL BE
WASHED AWAY, AND YOU WILL NO LONGER WORSHIP IDOLS. AND I
WILL GIVE YOU A NEW HEART, AND I WILL PUT A NEW SPIRIT IN YOU.
I WILL TAKE OUT THE STONY, STUBBORN HEART AND GIVE YOU A
TENDER, RESPONSIVE HEART. AND I WILL PUT MY SPIRIT IN YOU, SO
YOU WILL FOLLOW MY DECREES. AND BE CAREFUL TO OBEY MY
REGULATIONS. AND YOU WILL LIVE IN ISRAEL, THE LAND I GAVE YOUR
ANCESTORS LONG AGO. AND YOU WILL BE MY PEOPLE, AND I WILL
BE YOUR GOD. AND YOU WANT TO SUMMARIZE THIS BOOK, IT'S THAT
PHRASE, YOU WILL BE MY PEOPLE AND I WILL BE YOUR GOD.
IT'S SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
INCLUDING IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION,
WHEN EVERYTHING IS FINALLY SETTLED. AND THAT'S
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO. THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO BE,
IS ON HIM AND HIS GRAND PLAN FOR ALL OF US, AND NOT GET
IN THE WAY OF WHAT GOD IS DOING AND GIVEN TO THE OFFENSE OF THE
ENEMY, BUT TO FLOW WITH THAT RIVER OF GOD INTO THE
REDEMPTION OF US AND THE RESTORATION, THAT HE MAY BE GOD,
AND THAT WE MAY BE HIS PEOPLE. >> YOU SEE WHY I MARRIED HER?
>> I CAN, OH.
>> GOD PUT YOU TOGETHER.
>> YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S SUCH A HAPPY NOTE.
THANK YOU. AMEN. THANKS FOR BEING IN OUR LIVES.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. YOU KNOW, AND I, YOU KNOW,
I REALLY JUST WANT TO BRING HOME TO PEOPLE THAT FOR ME
PERSONALLY, NOT GROWING UP IN ANY OF THIS, YOU KNOW, MY
PARENTS HAD NO UNDERSTANDING THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS
DOWNLOADED THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE STUDY OF HIS
WORD. AND GOD CAN GIVE YOU HIS HEART, BUT YOU HAVE TO MAKE
ROOM FOR IT AND YOU NEED TO ASK FOR IT. AND I JUST THINK SO
MANY CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE, WELL, I DON'T THINK THIS. AND I'M
LIKE, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T ENCOUNTERED HIM, YOU HAVEN'T
ASKED TO ENCOUNTER HIM IN THIS WAY. AND IF YOU WOULD, IN
HUMILITY, YOU WOULD GET THIS OVERWHELMING DOWNLOAD AND THIS
OVERWHELMING LOVE FOR HIS PEOPLE AND HIS NATION.
>> YOU KNOW, WE SAY PSALM 122 VERSE 6, PRAY FOR THE PEACE
OF JERUSALEM. YOU WILL PROSPER IF YOU DO SO. BUT WE FORGET TO
TELL PEOPLE IS THAT [SPEAKING HEBREW] PRAY FOR
THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM MEANS TO INQUIRE INTO THE WELL-BEING OF.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A POLITICAL PRAY FOR PEACE, YOU KNOW,
BETWEEN THE NATIONS AROUND THEM. AND IT'S NOT A POLITICAL
STATEMENT. IT IS A PERSONAL TRANSFORMATION STATEMENT.
INQUIRE INTO THE WELL-BEING OF THESE, BECAUSE THESE ARE HIS
BRETHREN, AND AT LEAST AS MUCH AS HE'S DONE AS THE LEAST OF
THESE, MY BRETHREN, WHILE HIS BRETHREN ARE, YES, THE PEOPLE
IN PRISON, YES, THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET,
YES, THE PEOPLE IN NEED, YES, THE POOR.
BUT IT'S ALSO HIS NATURAL FAMILY. AND SO
WHEN WE INQUIRE INTO THEIR WELL-BEING WITH SOMETHING ABOUT
THE HEART OF GOD IS RELEASED. AND THAT'S WHY, LIKE YOU SAY,
THE BIBLE BECOMES ALIVE AND IT'S PERSONALLY TRANSFORMATIVE.
>> THAT'S SO GOOD.
>> WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
THANKS FOR WATCHING THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.
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