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OF ALL, THE BIBLE SAYS A
DOUBLE-MINDED MAN IS UNSTABLE

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IN ALL HIS WAYS. BUT I WOULD SAY
THAT'S LUKEWARM CHRISTIANITY.

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[MUSIC]
HEY GUYS, WELCOME BACK TO THE

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PODCAST. IF YOU ARE NEW TO THIS
CHANNEL, PLEASE LIKE, COMMENT,

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SUBSCRIBE. I DON'T USUALLY SAY
THAT, BUT I'M SAYING IT NOW

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BECAUSE THE MORE THAT YOU DO
THIS, IT HELPS OUR CHANNEL AND

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WE WANT TO GET THIS MESSAGE OUT
TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

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I'M EXCITED TODAY BECAUSE I AM
JOINED BY A GUY WHO IS BOLD FOR

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THE LORD. I'M TALKING ABOUT
SEAN FEUCHT. THANKS FOR BEING

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HERE, SEAN.
>> OF COURSE. GOOD TO BE WITH

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YOU.
>> I MEAN, A LONG STORY. YOU'VE

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BEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE WORSHIP
ARTIST. YOU RAN FOR OFFICE, AND

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THEN IN 2020, YOUR LIFE KIND OF
TOOK A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

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DIRECTION. AND YOU STARTED I
REMEMBER THE FIRST ONE, THE SAN

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FRANCISCO BRIDGE. YOU HAD A
WORSHIP GATHERING IN THE MIDST

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OF COVID PANDEMIC LOCKDOWN.
TELL OUR VIEWERS WHAT GOT YOU

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TO DO THAT, AND THEN WE'LL GET
INTO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY.

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>> YEAH. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL,
YOU KNOW, I, I'VE ALWAYS

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CONSIDERED MYSELF MORE OF JUST
LIKE A MISSIONARY. I'LL

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JUST GO WHEREVER GOD CALLS
ME TO GO. AND MY PARENTS

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WERE BOTH FULL TIME
MISSIONARIES. AND SO THAT'S

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REALLY WAS MY DREAM. AND I,
YOU KNOW, THOUGHT IT WAS

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GOING TO BE FOCUSED MORE
OVERSEAS, WHICH IT HAS BEEN

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FOR MANY YEARS.
>> WHERE WERE YOU AT

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OVERSEAS?
>> JUST 70 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.

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REALLY? YEAH, JUST IN A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PLACES. AND REALLY MY

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HEART IS AND WAS AND STILL IS
FOR THE HARDEST AND DARKEST

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NATIONS IN THE WORLD. SO, YOU
KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN NORTH KOREA,

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I'VE BEEN IN AFGHANISTAN,
I'VE BEEN IN IRAQ, BEEN IN

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SAUDI, BEEN IN A LOT OF
REALLY CLOSED DARK

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COUNTRIES. AND THE WILD
THING WAS IN 2020, JUST HAD

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NO IDEA THAT IN MANY WAYS
OUR COUNTRY WOULD BECOME

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THAT IT WOULD BECOME DARK,
IT WOULD BECOME HARD, IT

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WOULD BECOME DIFFICULT. AND
I HAD, I THINK, TEN

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INTERNATIONAL TRIPS PLANNED
FOR THAT YEAR. AND WHEN THE

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PANDEMIC HAPPENED, THEY
WERE ALL CANCELED. AND NOT

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ONLY WERE THEY ALL CANCELED,
BUT I HAD JUST COME OUT OF, AS

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YOU MENTIONED, RUNNING FOR
OFFICE. AND SO I HAD SEEN

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PEEKED BEHIND THE VEIL, IF YOU
WILL, OF THE GOVERNMENT SYSTEM

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AND HAD SEEN THINGS THAT
PROBABLY ORDINARY PEOPLE DON'T

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SEE. AND IT WAS OUT OF THAT
KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT THAT

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CAUSED ME TO DO WHAT
WE DID IN 2020.

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>> SEE, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT YOUR
STORY AND I LOVE INTERVIEWING

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PEOPLE, IS THAT WHEN SOMEONE'S
INTENTIONALLY WALKING WITH THE

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LORD, NOTHING IS BY ACCIDENT
AND EVERYTHING IS SETTING UP

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FOR THE NEXT THING. AND SO
EVERYTHING THAT YOU EXPERIENCE

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FROM BEING A MISSIONARY KID TO
GOING ONTO THE MISSION FIELD

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YOURSELF TO RUNNING FOR OFFICE
WOULD PREPARE YOU FOR THAT

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MOMENT. AND WHO WOULD HAVE
THOUGHT THAT OUR NATION THAT

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HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF A LIGHT
OF THE GOSPEL, YOU KNOW,

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BEAMING INTO THE WORLD, WOULD
BECOME A PLACE BECAUSE OF

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WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE
SCENES, WHERE WE REALLY HAD TO

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START TAKING A BOLD STANCE.
YEAH. AND YET THERE IS PROBABLY

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A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH
WHO DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS

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NECESSARY BECAUSE THEY WERE
COMFORTABLE HERE. SO DID YOU

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EVER KIND OF FEEL ANY PUSHBACK
FROM THE CHURCH.

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>> OR MASSIVE PUSHBACK? I MEAN,
I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WAS THE

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PREDOMINANT, LIKE PUSHBACK THAT
I THINK WAS WAS HARD TO DEAL

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WITH. IT WASN'T REALLY FROM THE
WORLD. IT WAS FRIENDLY FIRE. IT

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WAS PEOPLE THAT KNEW MY HEART,
PEOPLE THAT KNEW MY INTENTIONS,

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PEOPLE THAT KNEW, YOU KNOW,
THAT I HAD A LONG HISTORY

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WITH. THOSE WERE THE PEOPLE
THAT WERE THE FIERCEST IN

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MANY WAYS, OPPONENTS
AGAINST WHAT WE WERE DOING.

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>> CHRISTIAN ON CHRISTIAN
CRIME. IT IS A TRAVESTY AND

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IT IS COMMON IN THE BODY OF
CHRIST BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S

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EFFECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S MORE
HURTFUL, YOU KNOW? AND, YOU

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KNOW, I HAD A MENTOR TELL
ME YOU CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING

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PERSONALLY. AND I HAVE
LEARNED IN MINISTRY THAT

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HAS GOT TO BE A WAY SO THAT
YOU JUST CAN FORGIVE AND

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KEEP YOUR HEART IN A
POSTURE THAT IT'S STILL

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SOFT SO THAT THE HOLY
SPIRIT CAN MINISTER THROUGH

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YOU. BUT THAT'S HARD.
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, IT IS.

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IT REALLY. IT'S I THINK,
MAINTAINING AN UNAFFORDABLE

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HEART AND MAINTAINING A HEART
THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET

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CALLOUS, YOU DON'T GET OFFENDED,
YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT

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THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS A LOT OF
TIMES THE MORE WE DO MINISTRY,

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THE MORE INTERACTIONS WE HAVE,
THE MORE STUFF THAT WE START.

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YOU KNOW, WE WE START TO HAVE
BAD EXPERIENCES. CHURCH HURT

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COMES IN ALL THESE THINGS. AND,
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I THINK WE

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HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO
THAT PLACE IT TALKS ABOUT IN

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PROVERBS. YOU KNOW, ABOUT
PROTECTING YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW,

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FOR OUT OF THE HEART SPRINGS
ALL LIFE. SO GUARDING YOUR

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HEART AND PROTECTING IT, IT'S
JUST FOR ME. IT'S BEEN A KEY IN

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THIS SEASON.
>> YEAH. AND YOU'VE BEEN I

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WOULD SAY FOR ME AS A, YOU KNOW,
AS A SPECTATOR, YOU KNOW,

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SEEING EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING,
IT'S BEEN EXCITING TO WATCH.

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YOU'VE BEEN IN CANADA, YOU CAME
OUT OF CANADA ALSO DC RIGHT.

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AND I MEAN, WOW, CANADA,
BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY, REALLY

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STRONG CHRISTIANS. THEY'RE
BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE. THEY'RE SOME

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OF OUR GREATEST PARTNERS ARE
THERE. AND YET YOU HAD SO MUCH

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PUSHBACK. YEAH. WERE YOU
ANTICIPATING THAT AT ALL? NO. A

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LITTLE SURPRISED.
>> NO. I MEAN I'VE I'VE BEEN

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DOING MINISTRY IN CANADA FOR 20
SOMETHING YEARS.

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>> SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT?
>> VERY FAMILIAR. AND I GREW UP

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ACTUALLY RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF
MONTANA AND CANADA. AND SO

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IT WAS IN MANY WAYS LIKE A
SECOND HOME. WE WOULD

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ALWAYS AS A KID, I WOULD
DRIVE UP INTO ALBERTA AND,

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YOU KNOW, I JUST LOVED IT.
AND SO I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF

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HAD THIS HEART FOR THAT
COUNTRY, THOSE PEOPLE, AND

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NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES IN THE
PAST. AND IT WAS LIKE CRAZY. IT

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WAS LIKE THIS TIME WE REALLY,
YOU KNOW, MADE THE DEMONS ANGRY.

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WE REALLY KICKED OFF SOMETHING.
AND THE RESISTANCE, THE

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PUSHBACK, THE OUTRAGE, THE
MEDIA'S ATTACKS, THE

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GOVERNMENT CANCELING OUR
PERMITS, NONE OF THIS STUFF

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I ANTICIPATED. I MEAN,
HAVING BEEN IN IRAQ THIS

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YEAR AND TURKEY AND ISRAEL
AND MOZAMBIQUE AND BEEN

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WITH A PERSECUTED CHURCH,
WASN'T EXPECTING CANADA TO

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BE THE BIGGEST PLACE OF
RESISTANCE THIS YEAR.

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>> WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

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>> WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR
CONTROVERSY. WE'RE NOT

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HUNTING IT DOWN, OBVIOUSLY,
ESPECIALLY IN CANADA. LIKE

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I WAS JUST EXCITED FOR A
GREAT TRIP, AMAZING EVENTS.

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>> IT WAS JUST WORSHIP.
>> EVENTS, JUST WORSHIP.

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JUST WORSHIP AN OUTDOOR,
YOU KNOW, EVANGELISM. BUT,

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YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE
IT'S LIKE GOD WILL USE LIKE

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THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT OUR
MOVEMENT THAT PROVOKES.

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IT'S LIKE WE'RE TAKING
TERRITORY. WE'RE BRINGING

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WORSHIP INTO THE CENTER OF
THESE DOWNTOWN, VERY

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LIBERAL CITIES WHERE WE'RE
TAKING BACK ICONIC VENUES

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THAT HAVE BEEN USED FOR
PRIDE MARCHES. AND, YOU

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KNOW, YOU KNOW, DRAG QUEEN
STORY HOUR AND WHATEVER.

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LIKE WE'RE TAKING THOSE
BACK. WE'RE SAYING IT'S

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TIME FOR THE CHURCH TO
WORSHIP THAT IS THREATENING,

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YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND I
THINK THAT'S THE BIG

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DIFFERENCE. AND, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR OF

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DOING IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE
PAST WE'VE BEEN INSIDE A CHURCH,

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DONE A CONFERENCE, BEEN IN A
BUILDING, BUT NOW WE'RE SEEING

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ACTUALLY, NO, WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE IT OUTSIDE. THAT'S, THAT'S

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THREATENING TO POWERS AND
PRINCIPALITIES TO, TO EVIL

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MAYORS TO, YOU KNOW, CORRUPT,
YOU KNOW, MPS AND PEOPLE THAT

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ARE IN POWER TO ACTUALLY SEE
THE CHURCH GATHER AND WORSHIP

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AND PRAY. AND SO, YEAH, AND
IN SOME WAYS IT DOESN'T

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MAKE SENSE, BUT IN OTHER
WAYS, SEEING THE EFFECT,

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SEEING THE SALVATIONS, THE
HEALINGS, THE BAPTISMS,

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THE REVIVAL THAT'S
KICKED OFF, IT DOES

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MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT'S
LIKE, OH, THE POWERS

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AND PRINCIPALITIES KNOW
THAT'S COMING TOO. AND

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THEY WANT TO FIGHT
EVERY WAY THAT THEY CAN

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TO GET IT TO STOP.
>> AND YOU KNOW WHAT

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THE THOSE
PRINCIPALITIES AND

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THOSE POWERS THAT BE,
THEY WANT TO KEEP

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CHRISTIANS MEEK AND
MILD AND WITHIN THE

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FOUR WALLS OF THE
CHURCH. BECAUSE

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ACTUALLY, WHEN WE READ
THE BIBLE IN THE NEW

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TESTAMENT, THEY WERE
ALWAYS OUT. YEAH. YOU

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KNOW, THEY OF COURSE
THEY THEY MET AND THEY GATHERED

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AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT WE
WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE

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CONTAINED WITHIN THOSE FOUR
WALLS. AND I THINK ABOUT I

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INTERVIEWED NICHOLAS BOWLING.
HE'S A STREET PREACHER. AND

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WHAT I'VE NOTICED, I LOVE TO
WATCH HIS VIDEOS. I LOVE TO

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WATCH YOUR CONTENT. I LOVE TO
WATCH PEOPLE OUT REALLY IN THE

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WORLD. I THINK THERE'S JUST
SOMETHING SO POWERFUL ABOUT

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THAT. AND THEY A LOT OF TIMES
AT THESE PRIDE FESTIVALS AND

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STUFF, THEY WOULD SAY, WHY ARE
YOU HERE? GO BE IN A CHURCH,

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DON'T BE HERE. AND I HEARD OVER
AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I

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THOUGHT, THAT'S SO INTERESTING
THAT THEY'RE OKAY AS LONG AS

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IT'S NOT. OUT WHERE THE LOST
ARE. AND IT'S THOSE ENTITIES

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DON'T LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THE
WAY WE BATTLE IS THROUGH PRAYER

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AND WORSHIP AND GATHERING
TOGETHER AND REACHING THE LOST.

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AND SO THOSE ENTITIES DON'T
WANT THAT. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S

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WHY WHEN YOU WENT OUT THERE AND
DID THAT, THOSE THINGS, IT'S

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KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE IT'S LIKE A
CATALYST. YOU COME IN AND JUST

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SHAKES UP WHATEVER'S THERE
BECAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE

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EXPOSED. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S
KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING

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THROUGH YOUR MINISTRY. KIND OF
LIKE A PIONEERING, YOU KNOW,

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IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE
GOING IN, YOU'RE TAKING GROUND.

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AND SO YOU GO INTO CANADA AND
NINE OF YOUR PERMITS WERE

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CANCELED.
>> NINE OF THE 11. YEAH.

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>> AND THEY WERE APPROVED AND
THEN CANCELED.

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>> YEAH. A COUPLE OF THEM I
THINK WERE IN PROCESS, BUT MOST

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OF THEM WERE APPROVED AHEAD OF
TIME. IT'S YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A

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PRETTY ROBUST TEAM THAT DOES
THE PERMITTING, DOES THE

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INSURANCE JUMPS THROUGH ALL THE
HOOPS IN CANADA THERE'S JUST A

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LOT OF BUREAUCRACY. SO IT'S
LIKE EVEN MORE SO THAN DOING AN

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EVENT HERE. AND YOU KNOW, YOU
GOT TO GO THROUGH THESE

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DIFFERENT ENTITIES, THESE
DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL GROUPS

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AND, YOU KNOW, GREENLIT BY ALL
OF THEM, NO PROBLEM. AND THEN,

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YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WILD
ACTIVISTS, YOU KNOW, CAME UP

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WITH THIS RUMOR THAT I'M
DANGEROUS AND I HATE GAY PEOPLE

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AND WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, THEY
HAVE THEIR OWN NARRATIVE.

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NARRATIVE THAT THEY SPIN AND
AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY

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BASICALLY ARE THE MOB THAT, YOU
KNOW, THAT PUSHED THE

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GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA TO
WORK IN TANDEM TO ATTACK US. SO

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IT WAS LIKE THE SAME TALKING
POINTS ACROSS ALL THE STATE RUN

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MEDIA ACROSS CANADA. YEAH. THIS
GUY'S DANGEROUS. HE'S A MEGA

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MAN, HE'S BLAH, BLAH, BLAH,
BLAH, BLAH. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S

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LIKE, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT
DIFFERENT FROM THE NEW

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TESTAMENT REALITY OF, YOU KNOW,
PAUL AND PETER AND WHAT THESE

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GUYS ENDURED, YOU KNOW, AND
WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS THEY WERE,

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AS THEY WERE SLANDERED, AS THEY
WERE PERSECUTED, AS, YOU KNOW,

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THEY THERE WAS YOU KNOW, THEY
WERE THEY WERE THEY WERE CALLED

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TROUBLEMAKERS, LITERALLY. THESE
ARE TROUBLEMAKERS. THEY'RE

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TROUBLEMAKERS. THEY WERE RAN
OUT OF CITIES. THEY WERE THROWN

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INTO PRISON. THEY WERE
PERSECUTED. ALL THIS STUFF AND

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THE WHOLE BOOK OF ACTS IS JUST
A RHYTHM OF THEM GETTING IN

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TROUBLE, GETTING FREED AND
GETTING IN TROUBLE AGAIN. AND

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WE SEE THE GOSPEL JUST CONTINUE
TO BUILD OVER THAT TIME

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INCREMENTALLY. AND IT'S NOT
THAT DIFFERENT NOW. YOU KNOW,

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IT'S NOT THAT DIFFERENT IN 2025.
HOW WHEN YOU'RE CHALLENGING

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THOSE POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES,
THERE'S A PRICE TO PAY. AND BUT

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NOT ONLY IS THERE A PRICE TO
PAY, THERE ARE SOULS TO BE

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SAVED IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
THERE IS THE CONTROVERSY IN AND

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OF ITSELF WILL BECOME THE
STATION THAT BROADCASTS YOUR

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MESSAGE EVEN FARTHER. AND SO,
YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS I'VE

00:11:22.866 --> 00:11:25.833
KIND OF LEARNED TO LEAN INTO IT.
IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LORD, I

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DIDN'T PLAN ON THIS. I DIDN'T
WANT THIS. I WASN'T LOOKING FOR

00:11:29.733 --> 00:11:32.633
THIS. BUT I KNOW THAT YOU WILL
TAKE THIS AND USE IT FOR YOUR

00:11:32.733 --> 00:11:35.600
GLORY. I KNOW THAT MORE PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO COME NOW. THAT

00:11:35.700 --> 00:11:38.767
WOULDN'T HAVE COME. I KNOW THAT
PROTESTERS ARE GOING TO GET TO

00:11:38.867 --> 00:11:42.600
HEAR THE WORD OF GOD THAT WOULD
NEVER STEP FOOT IN A CHURCH. I

00:11:42.700 --> 00:11:44.866
KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THE MEDIA IS
GOING TO BE FORCED TO COVER THE

00:11:44.966 --> 00:11:48.633
THINGS THAT I SAY THEY'RE
ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO. OKAY,

00:11:48.733 --> 00:11:51.600
WHAT IS THIS GUY ALL ABOUT? YOU
KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO

00:11:51.700 --> 00:11:53.867
WE HAD A COUPLE STATIONS. THEY
WOULD JUST ROLL ON THE LIVE

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NEWS, PREACHING AND WORSHIP. I
LOVE THAT. LIKE, WHEN DOES THAT

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EVER HAPPEN? YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO
YOU GOT TO LOOK AT HOW GOD'S

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USING IT. I THINK A LOT OF
TIMES PEOPLE CAN FOCUS EVEN IN

00:12:03.833 --> 00:12:06.800
SEASONS OF RESISTANCE ON THE
ENEMY, THE ENEMY, THE EVIL, THE

00:12:06.900 --> 00:12:09.767
DEVIL, YOU KNOW. BUT IT'S YOU
REALLY GOT TO SHIFT YOUR

00:12:09.867 --> 00:12:12.800
PERSPECTIVE TO SAY, OKAY, GOD,
WHAT ARE YOU DOING RIGHT NOW IN

00:12:12.900 --> 00:12:15.633
THE MIDST OF THIS?
>> THAT IS SUCH A GOOD WORD. WE

00:12:15.733 --> 00:12:17.866
ARE SEATED WITH CHRIST IN
HEAVENLY PLACES, AND OUR FOCUS

00:12:17.966 --> 00:12:20.800
NEEDS TO BE ON HIM AND
UNDERSTANDING THE AUTHORITY

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THAT WE HAVE IN HIM, THE
IDENTITY THAT WE HAVE, THE CALL

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THAT WE HAVE, AND REALLY, IN
THE FACE OF CHRIST, THE ENEMY'S

00:12:28.033 --> 00:12:31.866
NOTHING. HE'S DEFEATED ALREADY.
AND SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND

00:12:31.966 --> 00:12:36.733
THIS SPIRITUAL WAR THAT WE'RE
IN. BUT WE DON'T NEED TO FOCUS

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OR GLORIFY THE DEVIL AT ALL. WE
NEED TO BE AWARE AND DISCERNING,

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BUT WE HAVE AUTHORITY IN CHRIST.
HE'S GIVEN US HIS AUTHORITY AS

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THE CHURCH, AND WE CAN WALK IN
THAT BOLDLY. AND WHAT I LOVE,

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AND I THINK THIS IS SUCH AN
IMPORTANT WORD FOR EVERYONE

00:12:49.800 --> 00:12:54.666
WHO'S WATCHING THAT. AND I'VE
LEARNED THIS IN MY OWN LIFE.

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WHAT MAY LOOK LIKE A SETBACK
GOD WILL USE AS A SET UP FOR

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SOMETHING GREATER? AND HE DID
THAT IN CANADA.

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>> YEAH.
>> HE DID THAT WITH ALL OF

00:13:01.900 --> 00:13:04.767
THESE PEOPLE CANCELING YOUR
PERMITS. HE DID THIS WITH ALL

00:13:04.867 --> 00:13:07.833
THIS MEDIA GOING AFTER YOU. AND,
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I

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WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS WHAT I'VE
SEEN. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S

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GOOD. I WANT THE BODY OF CHRIST
TO UNDERSTAND THE TACTICS OF

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THE ENEMY SO THEY DON'T FALL
FOR THEM AS EASILY. AND SO ONE

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OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED IS
HE IS AN ACCUSER AND HE LOVES

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TO USE LABELS, AND HE'LL PUT
LABELS ON PEOPLE TO OFFEND THEM

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SO THAT THEY BLOCK THEIR HEARTS
FROM EVER RECEIVING THE

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MINISTRY OF JESUS THROUGH THAT
INDIVIDUAL. YEAH. AND SO WHEN

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YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING TO
SOMEONE BEFORE YOU MAKE A

00:13:30.933 --> 00:13:34.000
JUDGMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
THE DEVIL WANTS US TO DO, GO TO

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THE LORD AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT DO
YOU THINK OF THIS PERSON? WHAT

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IS THE FRUIT OF THEIR LIFE?
WHAT IS THEIR MINISTRY? AND I

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THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS
WE'LL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT.

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AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT,
NOT JUST BASELESS ACCUSATIONS.

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IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS
PERSON ACTUALLY DOING? AND I

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THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING,
AND YOU'VE SAID THIS AND I

00:13:51.067 --> 00:13:53.766
THINK IT'S GREAT TO ESTABLISH,
IS THAT YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO

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LIKE, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR
CONTROVERSY. YOU'RE NOT LIKE

00:13:56.033 --> 00:13:58.866
RUBBING YOUR HANDS GOING IN
THESE PLACES LIKE, THAT'S NOT

00:13:58.966 --> 00:14:02.066
WHAT YOU WANT.
>> YEAH, YEAH. OH YEAH. I MEAN,

00:14:02.166 --> 00:14:05.933
WE HAVE ENOUGH CONTROVERSY. AND
NOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVE FOUR KIDS

00:14:06.033 --> 00:14:08.900
AND I HAVE A CRAZY LIFE. AND I
HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL

00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.966
ORGANIZATIONS AND STAFF HAVE TO
MANAGE AND PROJECTS AND BOOKS

00:14:12.066 --> 00:14:14.800
AND ALBUMS AND ALL KIND OF
STUFF LIKE I DON'T, YOU KNOW,

00:14:14.900 --> 00:14:17.900
THE ONE THING ABOUT THESE
CONTROVERSIES AND NAVIGATING

00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.133
THROUGH THEM, IT JUST TAKES
TIME. IT'S A LOT OF BANDWIDTH,

00:14:21.233 --> 00:14:24.033
YOU KNOW. SO OF COURSE WE DON'T
WANT TO CREATE THEM. WE'RE NOT

00:14:24.133 --> 00:14:27.100
TRYING TO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
GET MORE CLICKS. WE'RE NOT

00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.967
TRYING TO GET MORE HIT. WE'RE
NOT TRYING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW,

00:14:31.067 --> 00:14:34.033
BUT GOD WILL USE IT. AND SO
THAT'S KIND OF ALWAYS THE THING

00:14:34.133 --> 00:14:36.966
I HAVE TO REMIND MY TEAM. I
HAVE TO REMIND MY MY FAMILY, MY

00:14:37.066 --> 00:14:40.100
WIFE ABOUT LIKE, HEY, LISTEN,
WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS FIGHT,

00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:43.100
BUT IT CAME TO US. YEAH. AND
MAYBE GOD IS TRYING TO UNVEIL

00:14:43.900 --> 00:14:47.000
AND UNMASK THIS HEAVY
ANTI-CHRISTIAN BIAS THAT'S

00:14:47.100 --> 00:14:50.900
RESTING IN THIS COUNTRY THAT'S
THERE, YOU KNOW, AND HE'S

00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.967
TRYING TO SHOW US WHO OUR REAL
FRIENDS ARE, HOW WE NEED TO

00:14:55.067 --> 00:14:57.800
FIGHT AND HOW GOD COULD USE US.
I MEAN, IN, IN, IN MANY

00:14:57.900 --> 00:15:00.966
PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU JUST
TAKE THE CANDIDATE INCIDENT,

00:15:01.066 --> 00:15:04.866
FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WE'VE BECOME
THE, THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS, YOU

00:15:04.966 --> 00:15:08.100
KNOW, AND IT'S LIKE THERE'S A
LEADERSHIP VACUUM WHERE GOD'S

00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:12.033
LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO RISE UP.
MAYBE I'M THE MOST UNLIKELY GUY.

00:15:12.133 --> 00:15:15.899
OF COURSE I'M NOT EVEN CANADIAN,
RIGHT? YEAH, BUT GOD WILL USE

00:15:15.999 --> 00:15:18.967
ANYBODY WHO SAYS, HERE I AM.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,

00:15:19.067 --> 00:15:22.500
AVAILABILITY IS HUGE IN THE
KINGDOM. ARE YOU AVAILABLE? ARE

00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.133
YOU READY? GOD WILL USE YOU AND
YOU GOT TO WITHSTAND THE

00:15:25.233 --> 00:15:29.033
ATTACKS. YOU GOT TO PULL OUT
THE ARROWS. YOU GOT TO KEEP

00:15:29.133 --> 00:15:33.000
YOUR HEART CLEAN. YOU KNOW, YOU
GOT TO STAY CONNECTED TO WHAT

00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:38.033
REALLY MATTERS. BUT. BUT GOD
WILL USE ANYBODY. AND THE MOST

00:15:38.133 --> 00:15:41.866
OF THE TIME, ALMOST ALL THE
TIME IT'S GOING

00:15:41.966 --> 00:15:45.066
TO RUFFLE FEATHERS.
>> SO CAN YOU TELL ABOUT HOW

00:15:45.166 --> 00:15:48.933
GOD USED THE SITUATION IN
CANADA TO ACTUALLY BE A SET UP

00:15:49.033 --> 00:15:52.000
FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS GOOD?
>> YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT,

00:15:52.100 --> 00:15:57.100
YOU KNOW, BILLY GRAHAM HAS A
STATEMENT WHO SAYS THE YOU KNOW,

00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:00.266
IT SAYS WHEN A BOLD MAN TAKES A
STAND, IT'S WHEN A COURAGEOUS

00:16:00.366 --> 00:16:03.967
MAN TAKES A STAND. THE SPINES
OF EVERYONE ELSE ARE STIFFENED.

00:16:04.067 --> 00:16:09.167
YEAH. SO I THINK IT CAUSES A
REACTION. PEOPLE HAVE TO REACT.

00:16:09.267 --> 00:16:12.933
EITHER THAT GUY'S CRAZY AND HE
SHOULD HAVE HIS PERMITS SHUT

00:16:13.033 --> 00:16:16.100
DOWN, WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY,
SOME CHRISTIANS WOULD BELIEVE

00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:20.000
OR WOULD I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY
ARE SAYING IS FINALLY, SOMEONE

00:16:20.100 --> 00:16:23.167
IS CHALLENGING THESE SYSTEMS
THAT HAVE HELD BACK, YOU KNOW,

00:16:23.267 --> 00:16:27.067
BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, IT'S
LIKE IF YOU CAN'T DO WHAT THE

00:16:27.167 --> 00:16:31.000
BIBLE SAYS TO DO, PREACH THE
WORD, SING THE WORD, AND DO IT

00:16:31.100 --> 00:16:33.233
IN A WAY LIKE, WHAT CAN YOU DO?
YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S

00:16:33.333 --> 00:16:36.133
LIKE, THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD
CARE ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT,

00:16:36.233 --> 00:16:39.166
RIGHT? BECAUSE IF THE
GOVERNMENT TRIES TO HAMSTRING

00:16:39.266 --> 00:16:42.099
OR COME AGAINST OUR CALLING AS
BELIEVERS, ARE WE GOING TO

00:16:42.199 --> 00:16:44.967
LISTEN TO THE GOVERNMENT? ARE
WE GOING TO LISTEN TO GOD?

00:16:45.067 --> 00:16:48.967
>> EXACTLY.
>> SO SO THAT YOU KNOW, THE

00:16:49.067 --> 00:16:53.133
GOOD THE SILVER LINING IS, IS
THAT ONE WE THE TOUR WENT ON

00:16:53.233 --> 00:16:58.033
AND IT GOT WAY BIGGER AND WAY
MORE FREE PRESS THAN WE COULD

00:16:58.133 --> 00:17:04.100
HAVE EVER GOTTEN BY HERSELF.
TWO IT FOREVER REVEALED THE

00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.233
STATE OF APATHY OF PEOPLE THAT
WERE THAT WOULDN'T RISE UP.

00:17:07.333 --> 00:17:11.000
WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE THAT'LL
ULTIMATELY BE CONVICTING, YOU

00:17:11.100 --> 00:17:14.066
KNOW? YEAH, I HAVE PEOPLE THAT
COME TO ME ALL THE TIME THAT

00:17:14.166 --> 00:17:17.133
ARE LIKE, MAN, I REALLY LIKE
DIDN'T RESPOND WELL IN THE

00:17:17.233 --> 00:17:21.700
PANDEMIC. AND I SAID, WELL, YOU
KNOW, IT'S OKAY BECAUSE ANOTHER

00:17:21.800 --> 00:17:25.066
TEST IS COMING. YEAH. SO LEARN,
YOU KNOW, LEARN HOW TO DO IT

00:17:25.166 --> 00:17:28.200
DIFFERENTLY. DON'T FEEL SHAME.
JUST GET FREE AND LEARN HOW TO

00:17:28.300 --> 00:17:31.166
DO IT DIFFERENTLY. GET BOLD. SO
I THINK THAT THAT'S ANOTHER

00:17:31.266 --> 00:17:34.066
BYPRODUCT WE'VE SEEN IS GREAT
BOLDNESS OUT OF SOMETHING LIKE

00:17:34.166 --> 00:17:36.199
THIS.
>> YEAH. AND YOU KNOW IT'S SUCH

00:17:36.299 --> 00:17:39.233
IT'S THAT I LOVE THAT
ENCOURAGING MESSAGE BECAUSE

00:17:39.333 --> 00:17:43.199
IT'S LIKE YOU CAN LEARN FROM
YOUR MISTAKES. I THINK THE

00:17:43.299 --> 00:17:45.266
PANDEMIC WOKE SO MANY PEOPLE UP,
AND IT MADE PEOPLE REALIZE EVEN

00:17:45.366 --> 00:17:48.033
IF YOU DIDN'T RESPOND AND
YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, I COULD HAVE

00:17:48.133 --> 00:17:51.133
DONE THIS DIFFERENTLY. JUST
FORGIVE YOURSELF AND DO IT

00:17:51.233 --> 00:17:54.433
RIGHT THE NEXT TIME. AND I JUST
THINK WHAT I THINK ABOUT WITH

00:17:54.533 --> 00:17:59.033
CANADA, AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN
JUST IN WESTERN CHRISTIANITY IN

00:17:59.133 --> 00:18:02.100
GENERAL, IS THIS WHOLE THING OF
LIKE NICE CHRISTIANS. AND I

00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.100
THINK CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE, WELL,
I'M SUPPOSED TO BE NICE. AND

00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.333
THAT'S VERY EASILY MANIPULATED.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS

00:18:08.433 --> 00:18:12.267
CHRISTIAN WERE TRYING TO DO TO
BE NICE, BUT THAT ACTUALLY

00:18:12.367 --> 00:18:16.133
ISN'T BIBLICAL. YEAH. YOU KNOW,
AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU

00:18:16.233 --> 00:18:19.133
STUDY THE BOOK OF ACTS LIKE, NO,
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PREACH THE

00:18:19.233 --> 00:18:22.133
GOSPEL. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO
REACH THE LOST. WE ARE SUPPOSED

00:18:22.233 --> 00:18:26.133
TO STAND UP FOR TRUTH AND
RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE WE ARE

00:18:26.233 --> 00:18:29.333
AMBASSADORS OF CHRIST. AND THAT
IS NOT JUST LAYING DOWN AND

00:18:29.433 --> 00:18:33.133
LETTING EVIL RUN AMOK IN
SOCIETY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE

00:18:33.233 --> 00:18:36.300
SUPPOSED TO STAND AS MEN AND
WOMEN OF GOD NOT ONLY TO FOR

00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:39.333
THE COUNTRY, BUT FOR EVEN THE
CHILDREN. YOU THINK ABOUT HOW

00:18:39.433 --> 00:18:42.300
CHILDREN ARE BEING TARGETED.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT

00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.233
PEOPLE, THEY FORGET, YOU KNOW,
THAT WE'RE IT'S LIKE THE LION

00:18:45.333 --> 00:18:48.300
OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, OUR
FATHER'S LION. HE'S MADE US TO

00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:52.333
BE LIONS. AND IN MANY WAYS, THE
CHURCH HAS BECOME THAT. YOU

00:18:52.433 --> 00:18:56.099
KNOW, THAT THAT APATHETIC LION
IN THE ZOO THAT YOU KNOW, HAS

00:18:56.199 --> 00:19:00.433
HIS HAIR PERFECTLY AND HIS
NAILS DECLAWED. HE DOESN'T EVER,

00:19:00.533 --> 00:19:04.266
YOU KNOW, HUNT LIKE LIONS ARE
SUPPOSED TO HUNT, YOU KNOW, AND

00:19:04.366 --> 00:19:06.433
HE JUST KIND OF GETS HIS MEAT,
YOU KNOW, FED TO HIM. AND HE'S

00:19:06.533 --> 00:19:09.200
JUST FAT AND LAZY.
>> BUT DON'T YOU THINK THAT

00:19:09.300 --> 00:19:11.266
PEOPLE WITH YOU. THAT'S WHY
MAYBE SOME PEOPLE HAVE A

00:19:11.366 --> 00:19:12.400
PROBLEM WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S
ACTUALLY CHALLENGING THEIR

00:19:12.500 --> 00:19:15.166
APATHY.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S

00:19:15.266 --> 00:19:18.233
CONVICTING. I THINK IT'S
CHALLENGING THEIR APATHY. AND I

00:19:18.333 --> 00:19:20.799
THINK IN MANY WAYS IT'S
PROBABLY LIKE DAVID'S BROTHERS,

00:19:20.899 --> 00:19:24.133
I, YOU KNOW, HE DAVID WAS
INHERENTLY MISUNDERSTOOD. WHY

00:19:24.233 --> 00:19:26.400
ARE YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD? DO
YOU JUST CARE ABOUT YOU JUST

00:19:26.500 --> 00:19:29.267
CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING A
SELFIE WITH GOLIATH? DO YOU

00:19:29.367 --> 00:19:32.300
JUST CARE ABOUT BEING IN THE
MIX OF EVERYTHING HIS HIS

00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:36.300
BROTHERS INTERPRETED HIS
CONFIDENCE IN GOD AS ARROGANCE

00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:39.166
IN HIM. AND I THINK THAT
HAPPENS A LOT OF TIMES,

00:19:39.266 --> 00:19:42.267
ESPECIALLY IN OUR CULTURE
THAT'S SO SOFT AND FEMINIZED.

00:19:42.367 --> 00:19:46.300
YEAH. WHERE IT'S LIKE WE WANT
LIKE NICENESS IS THE HIGHEST

00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:49.200
VIRTUE, WHICH IS NOWHERE IN THE
BIBLE, AND COURAGE AND STRENGTH

00:19:49.300 --> 00:19:53.200
AND VALOR AND ALL THESE THINGS
ARE SEEN AS ARROGANT AND

00:19:53.300 --> 00:19:58.100
PRIDEFUL. AND SO DAVID'S
BROTHERS WERE TRYING TO

00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:02.100
DISSUADE HIM FROM STEPPING INTO
HIS CALLING FROM GOD, WHICH WAS

00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:05.266
TO SLAY THE GIANT, BECAUSE, YOU
KNOW, THEY THEY WERE TELLING

00:20:05.366 --> 00:20:08.267
HIM THAT HE WAS ARROGANT AND HE
JUST WANTED TO BE THE CENTER OF

00:20:08.367 --> 00:20:11.300
THE STORYLINE. AND THANK GOD HE
DIDN'T LISTEN TO HIS BROTHERS.

00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:14.333
AND HE HELD FAST TO HIS CALLING,
HIS MANDATE. AND I THINK THAT

00:20:14.433 --> 00:20:17.266
THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS,
YEAH, THE THE YOU KNOW, THE

00:20:17.366 --> 00:20:19.433
CROWD IS ALWAYS GOING TO SAY
THIS. THEY'LL HAVE THEIR

00:20:19.533 --> 00:20:21.400
OPINIONS. THE SOCIAL MEDIA
TROLLS WILL HAVE THEIR OPINIONS,

00:20:21.500 --> 00:20:24.467
THE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS
WILL HAVE THEIR OPINIONS. BUT

00:20:24.567 --> 00:20:28.433
IN THE END OF THE DAY, ONLY ONE
OPINION MATTERS.

00:20:28.533 --> 00:20:32.133
>> THAT'S SO TRUE. AND YOU KNOW
WHAT? IT DOESN'T. HONESTLY, I

00:20:32.233 --> 00:20:34.366
FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS GOD
HAS TAUGHT ME IS IT DOESN'T

00:20:34.466 --> 00:20:37.266
MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK, AND
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK WHAT

00:20:37.366 --> 00:20:40.300
THEY THINK REGARDLESS. AND
WE'LL ALL STAND BEFORE GOD ONE

00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.133
DAY. AND WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT
HE SAYS. WELL DONE, GOOD AND

00:20:44.233 --> 00:20:48.133
FAITHFUL SERVANT. AND IF PEOPLE
COULD JUST LEARN TO PUSH

00:20:48.233 --> 00:20:53.200
FORWARD AND NOT ALLOW THE
CRITICISMS OF PEOPLE, EVEN

00:20:53.300 --> 00:20:56.267
FELLOW CHRISTIANS, TO STOP THEM
AND REALIZE I AM ACCOUNTABLE TO

00:20:56.367 --> 00:21:00.166
GOD AND THE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE
AND NOT STRANGERS WHO DON'T

00:21:00.266 --> 00:21:03.300
KNOW ME. I'M NOT GOING TO FALL
FOR THIS, BUT I THINK SO MANY

00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:06.466
PEOPLE GET SWAYED BY THE MOB,
AND IT'S A GREAT TACTIC OF THE

00:21:06.566 --> 00:21:09.400
ENEMY TO JUST GET PEOPLE TO NOT
WALK IN THE FULLNESS OF THEIR

00:21:09.500 --> 00:21:12.433
CALLING. BUT THE THING IS, IS
THAT THE MOMENT YOU SHOW YOUR

00:21:12.533 --> 00:21:15.333
CARDS TO THE DEVIL LIKE THAT,
LIKE, OH, I'LL CAVE UNDER

00:21:15.433 --> 00:21:19.233
PRESSURE OF WHAT PEOPLE SAY
ABOUT ME, THEN HE'LL PLAY THAT

00:21:19.333 --> 00:21:22.300
ON YOU EVERY SINGLE TIME TO GET
YOU TO STOP. AND SO REALLY, THE

00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:24.600
ONLY WAY TO BE EFFECTIVE IS TO
MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK IF

00:21:24.700 --> 00:21:27.366
CHRISTIANS COULD REALIZE THAT
THIS IS A SPIRITUAL ATTACK AND

00:21:27.466 --> 00:21:30.233
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE
THINK, IT WOULD BE SO MUCH

00:21:30.333 --> 00:21:33.333
BETTER FOR THE KINGDOM, BECAUSE
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE

00:21:33.433 --> 00:21:37.200
THINK AND THE ENEMY IS GOING TO
BE AGAINST YOU IF YOU'RE DOING.

00:21:37.300 --> 00:21:39.467
AND JESUS SAID, IF THEY HATE ME,
THEY'RE GOING TO HATE YOU. AND

00:21:39.567 --> 00:21:42.300
HE WAS PERFECT. HE DID LIKE,
WE'RE NOT PERFECT. HE DID

00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.300
NOTHING WRONG. AND THEN THEY
CRUCIFIED HIM. YEAH. YOU KNOW,

00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.467
SO I'M LIKE, WHY DO WE THINK
THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO LIKE

00:21:48.567 --> 00:21:52.333
THIS? BUT I JUST THINK WE COME
OUT OF THIS KIND OF WESTERNIZED

00:21:52.433 --> 00:21:56.433
INFLUENCER CHRISTIAN CULTURE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU ARE

00:21:56.533 --> 00:21:58.366
FOLLOWING JESUS, YOU'RE GOING
TO DO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO

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MAKE PEOPLE UPSET.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, THE BIBLE IS

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REALLY CLEAR. IF YOU WANT TO BE
A FRIEND OF THE WORLD, YOU'RE

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GOING TO BE AN ENEMY TOWARDS
GOD. YEP. AND SO WHERE WHERE IS

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YOUR VALUE SYSTEM? DO YOU WANT
TO BE LIKED? DO YOU WANT TO BE

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FRIENDS WITH THE WORLD? DO YOU
WANT TO BE DEEMED, OH, IT'S A

00:22:15.333 --> 00:22:18.500
GOOD PERSON. OR WHICH IF THAT'S
YOUR GOAL, YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING

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TO BE AN ENEMY OF GOD? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH.

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>> SO NO YOU CAN'T.
>> YOU KNOW, WHAT GOOD IS IT

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FOR A MAN YOU KNOW, GAINS THE
WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL.

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SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR
WHERE WE HAVE TO ADJUST OUR,

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IN OUR MINDS, YOU KNOW,
WHERE WE WHERE OUR VALUE

00:22:38.433 --> 00:22:41.300
SYSTEM IS. IS IT IN WHAT
THE WORLD THINKS ABOUT US,

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OR IS IT IN WHAT GOD SAYS
WE ARE? YOU KNOW, AND

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ULTIMATELY, THAT'S THE
QUESTION WE ALL HAVE TO

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ANSWER. AND THAT WILL LEAD
TO THE WAY IN WHICH WE LIVE,

00:22:50.500 --> 00:22:54.367
THE DECISIONS WE MAKE. YOU KNOW,
HOW WE ARE AFFECTED. ARE WE

00:22:54.467 --> 00:22:58.266
CONSTANTLY LIKE THIS GENERATION
IS CONSTANTLY OVERWHELMED WITH

00:22:58.366 --> 00:23:01.367
MENTAL FATIGUE AND THEIR, YOU
KNOW, THEIR CHAOS AND CONFUSION

00:23:01.467 --> 00:23:04.367
AND IDENTITY ISSUES AND ALL
THIS STUFF? WHY? IT'S BECAUSE

00:23:04.467 --> 00:23:07.800
THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING HERE
ALWAYS TO FIND THEIR IDENTITY.

00:23:07.900 --> 00:23:13.466
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING HERE
FOR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE

00:23:13.566 --> 00:23:15.600
ALWAYS LOOKING HERE. AND
INSTEAD OF LIKE HERE, STAYING

00:23:15.700 --> 00:23:18.533
HERE.
>> AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE

00:23:18.633 --> 00:23:23.467
ON ANOTHER INTERVIEW, HOW
IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE THE FEAR

00:23:23.567 --> 00:23:26.567
OF GOD. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
>> YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU

00:23:26.667 --> 00:23:35.366
HAVE TO BE. THE FEAR OF THE
LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM,

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CARE MORE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT
THE FEAR OF THE LORD LIKE I, I

00:23:37.633 --> 00:23:40.499
WITH THE LORD.
WOULD DISRUPT MY RELATIONSHIP

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>> YEAH.
>> LIKE THAT TO ME, IS THE

00:23:45.700 --> 00:23:49.467
HIGHEST LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW,
IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE

00:23:49.567 --> 00:23:52.567
MARRIED OR YOU LOVE SOMEBODY OR
WHATEVER, AND IT'S LIKE YOU

00:23:52.667 --> 00:23:56.367
JUST FEEL SO BAD IF YOU LET
YOUR WIFE DOWN OR YOU LET YOUR,

00:23:56.467 --> 00:24:00.499
YOU KNOW, YOU DO SOMETHING THAT
HURTS THEM. LIKE, I WANT TO

00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:05.733
FEEL THAT TOWARDS THE LORD
STRONGER. I WANT TO FEEL LIKE

00:24:05.833 --> 00:24:10.400
LIKE THIS SOBRIETY. I WANT TO
LIVE IN RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH

00:24:10.500 --> 00:24:14.400
THE FATHER. AND THAT TO ME IS
GOING TO DRIVE MY DECISIONS.

00:24:14.500 --> 00:24:17.700
THAT TO ME IS GOING TO DRIVE,
YOU KNOW WHY I DO THE THINGS

00:24:17.800 --> 00:24:21.433
THAT I DO AND HOW I RESPOND.
AND IF AND IF THAT BECOMES YOUR

00:24:21.533 --> 00:24:24.433
YOUR VALUE OF SUCCESS IN YOUR
LIFE, YOU JUST LIVE DIFFERENTLY,

00:24:24.533 --> 00:24:27.433
YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE DIFFERENTLY.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW,

00:24:27.533 --> 00:24:30.433
CONSTANTLY CHECKING THE WEATHER
TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK AND

00:24:30.533 --> 00:24:32.600
CHECKING POLLING ONLINE TO SEE
HOW YOU'RE DOING. YOU KNOW,

00:24:32.700 --> 00:24:36.533
THAT STUFF COMES AND GOES,
POPULARITY COMES AND GOES,

00:24:36.633 --> 00:24:40.533
CLICKS COME AND GO, FAME COME
AND GO. ALL THAT STUFF. YOUR

00:24:40.633 --> 00:24:43.533
OWN REPUTATION. PEOPLE FEEL
LIKE IT'S THEIR JOB TO GUARD

00:24:43.633 --> 00:24:46.433
THEIR REPUTATION. I HEAR THAT A
LOT. WELL, YOU KNOW YOUR

00:24:46.533 --> 00:24:50.500
REPUTATION. LIKE I DON'T GIVE A
RIP ABOUT MY REPUTATION. YOU

00:24:50.600 --> 00:24:54.433
KNOW, I CARE WHAT HE THINKS
ABOUT ME, YOU KNOW? AND I THINK

00:24:54.533 --> 00:24:58.400
THAT THAT PEOPLE GOT TO GET
FREE OF THAT. IT'S A MAN

00:24:58.500 --> 00:25:01.567
PLEASING SPIRIT, YOU KNOW, AND
IT'LL KEEP YOUR WHEEL SPINNING

00:25:01.667 --> 00:25:03.833
AND IT'LL KEEP YOU DEPRESSED.
IT'LL KEEP YOU HOPELESS, YOU

00:25:03.933 --> 00:25:07.500
KNOW.
>> AND WE'RE NOT. THE BIBLE

00:25:07.600 --> 00:25:09.633
SAYS THOSE WHO ARE LED BY THE
SPIRIT OF GOD ARE SONS OF GOD.

00:25:09.733 --> 00:25:12.766
WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE
WORRYING ABOUT TRENDS OR WHERE

00:25:12.866 --> 00:25:16.533
THE CROWD IS GOING. IT'S LIKE
JESUS. WHEN HE LIVED ON EARTH,

00:25:16.633 --> 00:25:19.800
HE WAS PROPELLED. HE SAID, I
ONLY SAY AND DO WHAT I SEE MY

00:25:20.633 --> 00:25:22.667
FATHER SAYING AND DOING. AND SO
THAT IS THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE

00:25:22.767 --> 00:25:25.700
NEED TO BE HEAVENLY MINDED, NOT
WORLDLY MINDED. AND, YOU KNOW,

00:25:25.800 --> 00:25:29.500
I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN
YOU IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PLEASE

00:25:29.600 --> 00:25:33.600
MAN AND PLEASE GOD AND YOU HAVE
YOUR FOOT IN TWO CAMPS IN THE

00:25:33.700 --> 00:25:36.700
WORLD AND IN HEAVEN, IN THE
KINGDOM OF GOD, FIRST OF ALL,

00:25:36.800 --> 00:25:39.633
THE BIBLE SAYS A DOUBLE MINDED
MAN IS UNSTABLE IN ALL OF HIS

00:25:39.733 --> 00:25:42.733
WAYS. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S
LUKEWARM CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE

00:25:42.833 --> 00:25:45.733
YOU'RE NEITHER HOT NOR COLD.
AND IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO MAKE

00:25:45.833 --> 00:25:49.500
A CHOICE. AND, YOU KNOW, I
THINK WITH EVERY BELIEVER THAT

00:25:49.600 --> 00:25:52.567
WILL COME A POINT IN THEIR LIFE
IF THEY ARE WALKING IN THE WILL

00:25:52.667 --> 00:25:55.599
OF GOD WHERE THEY CAN'T STAY IN
BOTH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO

00:25:55.699 --> 00:25:58.700
MAKE A CHOICE. YEAH, BUT YOU
KNOW THAT. I MEAN, THE BIBLE

00:25:58.800 --> 00:26:01.766
GOES AS FAR TO SAY, DON'T WORRY
ABOUT SOMEONE WHO CAN KILL YOUR

00:26:01.866 --> 00:26:05.633
BODY. HE SAYS, WORRY ABOUT THE
ONE WHO CAN KILL YOU, BODY AND

00:26:05.733 --> 00:26:08.599
SOUL. YEAH. AND SO WE, LIKE YOU
SAID WE NEED TO FEAR GOD MORE

00:26:08.699 --> 00:26:11.766
THAN WE FEAR MAN. AND I KNOW
YOU'VE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A

00:26:11.866 --> 00:26:14.600
LOT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE LIKE
I SAID, YOU KIND OF HAVE THIS

00:26:14.700 --> 00:26:16.666
PIONEER KIND OF TRAILBLAZING
THING. WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU

00:26:16.766 --> 00:26:18.766
GET WEARY? AND IT'S JUST LIKE,
IT'S A LOT.

00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.633
>> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S
NORMAL. YOU KNOW, I THINK

00:26:21.733 --> 00:26:23.599
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE
WE'RE ALL JUST HUMAN. AND, YOU

00:26:23.699 --> 00:26:27.766
KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT
PERSONALITIES AND DIFFERENT

00:26:27.866 --> 00:26:31.533
CALLINGS, BUT LIKE YOU, IT'S,
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE WHEN

00:26:31.633 --> 00:26:36.500
WE WALK THROUGH SOMETHING, IT'S
NORMAL TO FEEL IT. IT'S NORMAL

00:26:36.600 --> 00:26:39.699
TO, TO, YOU KNOW, PROCESS ALL
THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT YOU

00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.633
KNOW, IT'S LIKE I LOVE THIS
STORY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DAVID

00:26:42.733 --> 00:26:46.599
AND ZIKLAG, YOU KNOW, HIS OWN
PEOPLE WERE AGAINST HIM. HE

00:26:46.699 --> 00:26:49.667
LOST. HE HE FELT LIKE HIS
DECISIONS JEOPARDIZED HIS WHOLE

00:26:49.767 --> 00:26:53.533
THE CHILDREN AND HIS OWN PEOPLE
TRIBE. HE LOST THE WOMEN AND

00:26:53.633 --> 00:26:57.500
WERE TALKING ABOUT STONING HIM
AND KILLING HIM. AND IT SAID,

00:26:57.600 --> 00:27:02.700
BUT DAVID FOUND STRENGTH IN THE
LORD, AND THERE HAS TO BE A, A,

00:27:02.800 --> 00:27:05.600
A, A RESERVOIR OF INTIMACY WITH
THE LORD THAT YOU BUILD OVER

00:27:05.700 --> 00:27:08.566
TIME. AND THIS IS ONE THING
IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR

00:27:08.666 --> 00:27:11.600
YOUNG PEOPLE TO REALIZE YOUNG
LEADERS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT

00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:14.700
QUICK IMPARTATION. WE WANT WE
WANT LAYING ON OF HANDS. WE

00:27:14.800 --> 00:27:17.800
WANT ALL THESE THINGS. BUT THE
ONE THING THAT I CAN IMPART TO

00:27:17.900 --> 00:27:20.633
YOU IS MY HISTORY WITH THE LORD.
YEAH. THE ONE THING I CAN

00:27:20.733 --> 00:27:23.700
IMPART TO YOU IS THE HOURS OF
BUILDING, CONNECTION,

00:27:23.800 --> 00:27:29.600
RELATIONSHIP, READING THE WORD
WORSHIPING. AND IT'S IN THOSE

00:27:29.700 --> 00:27:33.600
SEASONS OF TENSION OR DRAMA OR
WHATEVER WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE

00:27:33.700 --> 00:27:36.700
TO DRAW FROM THAT. WELL, YOU
KNOW, YOU REALLY YOU'RE REALLY

00:27:36.800 --> 00:27:39.733
DRAWING FROM THAT WELL OF, OF
INTIMACY WITH THE LORD AND, AND,

00:27:39.833 --> 00:27:42.599
YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT
THAT'S, THAT YOU'RE STAYING

00:27:42.699 --> 00:27:46.699
CONNECTED THERE, I THINK IS
SUPER, SUPER IMPORTANT.

00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:50.567
>> THAT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT
WORD. I JUST HAVE TO, LIKE,

00:27:50.667 --> 00:27:53.666
REITERATE WHAT WHAT SEAN IS
SAYING IS THAT AND I THINK IT'S

00:27:53.766 --> 00:27:56.567
REALLY IMPORTANT TO BUILD YEARS
WITH THE LORD. AND I THINK

00:27:56.667 --> 00:27:59.633
PEOPLE GET YOUNG AND THEY'RE
YOUNG AND FIERY AND THEY WANT

00:27:59.733 --> 00:28:01.833
TO GO OUT. BUT IT JUST TRUST
GOD'S TIMING IN THE PROCESS.

00:28:01.933 --> 00:28:04.833
HE'S TAKING YOU THROUGH BECAUSE
HE'S BUILDING YOU UP AND HE'S

00:28:04.933 --> 00:28:08.633
TEACHING YOU AND EMBRACE HIM IN
ALL THE SEASONS. THERE'S AN

00:28:08.733 --> 00:28:12.833
INTIMACY IN THE HARD SEASONS
THAT WILL FORM AND SHAPE YOU IN

00:28:12.933 --> 00:28:16.867
A WAY THAT NOTHING ELSE WILL.
AND IF YOU HAVE THAT RESERVOIR,

00:28:16.967 --> 00:28:20.766
LIKE YOU SAID, IT WILL. YOU
KNOW, I READ THIS IN A DALLAS

00:28:20.866 --> 00:28:23.766
WILLARD BOOK ABOUT SPIRITUAL
DISCIPLINES. HE SAYS WHEN A

00:28:23.866 --> 00:28:27.700
PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE HITS A
HOME RUN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING

00:28:27.800 --> 00:28:30.800
OUT OF LUCK. IT WAS FROM THEM
PRACTICING EVERY SINGLE DAY.

00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:34.033
YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
CALLED TO DO FAST, PRAY, SPEND

00:28:34.133 --> 00:28:37.666
TIME WITH THE LORD. WHEN WE DO
THESE SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES

00:28:37.766 --> 00:28:40.667
EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHEN THE
MOMENT COMES FOR US TO HIT A

00:28:40.767 --> 00:28:43.833
HOME RUN FOR THE KINGDOM, IT'S
NOT GOING TO BE HARD BECAUSE

00:28:43.933 --> 00:28:48.800
THAT RESERVOIR IS THERE. AND
WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR LOWEST OF

00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:51.900
LOWS, CALL ON JESUS. YOU KNOW,
WHEN THERE. I MEAN, WHEN THE

00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.633
DEVIL HITS YOU WHERE IT HURTS
THE MOST AND YOU MAYBE WANT TO

00:28:55.733 --> 00:28:58.633
QUIT AND YOU WANT TO GIVE UP,
OR YOU WANT TO HARDEN YOUR

00:28:58.733 --> 00:29:01.800
HEART EVEN AGAINST GOD. LIKE I
WOULD JUST ECHO THAT, TURN TO

00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:04.900
HIM IN THAT MOMENT LIKE DAVID
DID, BECAUSE I WAS THE WORST

00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.967
DAY OF HIS LIFE. BUT THAT WAS
THE TEST THAT HE PASSED, AND

00:29:08.067 --> 00:29:10.133
THEN HE WAS KING AFTER THAT.
AND SO IN THE MOMENT WHERE IT

00:29:10.233 --> 00:29:12.799
FEELS LIKE IT'S THE DARKEST,
THAT'S ACTUALLY WHEN

00:29:12.899 --> 00:29:15.767
BREAKTHROUGH IS THE CLOSEST.
AMEN. AND SO I JUST SAY,

00:29:15.867 --> 00:29:18.833
EVERYONE DON'T GIVE UP, YOU
KNOW, AND LIKE, I, YOU KNOW, I

00:29:18.933 --> 00:29:21.667
JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
WE'RE OUT OF TIME. YOU'RE GONNA

00:29:21.767 --> 00:29:23.999
COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA DO MORE
EPISODES. THIS IS JUST SUCH

00:29:24.099 --> 00:29:27.100
WISDOM. I JUST WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT

00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.766
YOU'RE DOING. AND I JUST WANT
TO ENCOURAGE THE AUDIENCE THAT

00:29:29.866 --> 00:29:32.733
WE'RE ALL CALLED TO DIFFERENT
MINISTRIES, AND I THINK WE MAKE

00:29:32.833 --> 00:29:34.799
A MISTAKE IN OUR NARROW
UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE SEE

00:29:34.899 --> 00:29:37.666
SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING
DIFFERENT, WE MIGHT NOT

00:29:37.766 --> 00:29:40.667
UNDERSTAND IT, BUT UNDERSTAND
THAT WHAT EVERY PERSON IN THE

00:29:40.767 --> 00:29:45.000
KINGDOM IS DOING IS IMPORTANT
AND THERE FOR A REASON. IT'S

00:29:45.100 --> 00:29:46.799
LIKE WE'RE ONE BODY. IF A HAND
LOOKS AT YOUR LIVER, OF COURSE

00:29:46.899 --> 00:29:50.766
THEY LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,
BUT BOTH FUNCTION FOR THE

00:29:50.866 --> 00:29:54.099
HEALTH OF THE BODY. AND SO KEEP
SEAN GUYS IN YOUR PRAYERS. AND,

00:29:54.399 --> 00:29:56.733
YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR WHAT
YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. AND

00:29:56.999 --> 00:29:58.800
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON THE
PODCAST.

00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:05.567
>> IT'S AN HONOR. IT'S AN HONOR.
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