OF ALL, THE BIBLE SAYS A DOUBLE-MINDED MAN IS UNSTABLE
IN ALL HIS WAYS. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S LUKEWARM CHRISTIANITY.
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I'M EXCITED TODAY BECAUSE I AM JOINED BY A GUY WHO IS BOLD FOR
THE LORD. I'M TALKING ABOUT SEAN FEUCHT. THANKS FOR BEING
HERE, SEAN. >> OF COURSE. GOOD TO BE WITH
YOU. >> I MEAN, A LONG STORY. YOU'VE
BEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE WORSHIP ARTIST. YOU RAN FOR OFFICE, AND
THEN IN 2020, YOUR LIFE KIND OF TOOK A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
DIRECTION. AND YOU STARTED I REMEMBER THE FIRST ONE, THE SAN
FRANCISCO BRIDGE. YOU HAD A WORSHIP GATHERING IN THE MIDST
OF COVID PANDEMIC LOCKDOWN. TELL OUR VIEWERS WHAT GOT YOU
TO DO THAT, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE ALWAYS
CONSIDERED MYSELF MORE OF JUST LIKE A MISSIONARY. I'LL
JUST GO WHEREVER GOD CALLS ME TO GO. AND MY PARENTS
WERE BOTH FULL TIME MISSIONARIES. AND SO THAT'S
REALLY WAS MY DREAM. AND I, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT IT WAS
GOING TO BE FOCUSED MORE OVERSEAS, WHICH IT HAS BEEN
FOR MANY YEARS. >> WHERE WERE YOU AT
OVERSEAS? >> JUST 70 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
REALLY? YEAH, JUST IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES. AND REALLY MY
HEART IS AND WAS AND STILL IS FOR THE HARDEST AND DARKEST
NATIONS IN THE WORLD. SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN NORTH KOREA,
I'VE BEEN IN AFGHANISTAN, I'VE BEEN IN IRAQ, BEEN IN
SAUDI, BEEN IN A LOT OF REALLY CLOSED DARK
COUNTRIES. AND THE WILD THING WAS IN 2020, JUST HAD
NO IDEA THAT IN MANY WAYS OUR COUNTRY WOULD BECOME
THAT IT WOULD BECOME DARK, IT WOULD BECOME HARD, IT
WOULD BECOME DIFFICULT. AND I HAD, I THINK, TEN
INTERNATIONAL TRIPS PLANNED FOR THAT YEAR. AND WHEN THE
PANDEMIC HAPPENED, THEY WERE ALL CANCELED. AND NOT
ONLY WERE THEY ALL CANCELED, BUT I HAD JUST COME OUT OF, AS
YOU MENTIONED, RUNNING FOR OFFICE. AND SO I HAD SEEN
PEEKED BEHIND THE VEIL, IF YOU WILL, OF THE GOVERNMENT SYSTEM
AND HAD SEEN THINGS THAT PROBABLY ORDINARY PEOPLE DON'T
SEE. AND IT WAS OUT OF THAT KNOWLEDGE AND INSIGHT THAT
CAUSED ME TO DO WHAT WE DID IN 2020.
>> SEE, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT YOUR STORY AND I LOVE INTERVIEWING
PEOPLE, IS THAT WHEN SOMEONE'S INTENTIONALLY WALKING WITH THE
LORD, NOTHING IS BY ACCIDENT AND EVERYTHING IS SETTING UP
FOR THE NEXT THING. AND SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU EXPERIENCE
FROM BEING A MISSIONARY KID TO GOING ONTO THE MISSION FIELD
YOURSELF TO RUNNING FOR OFFICE WOULD PREPARE YOU FOR THAT
MOMENT. AND WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT OUR NATION THAT
HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF A LIGHT OF THE GOSPEL, YOU KNOW,
BEAMING INTO THE WORLD, WOULD BECOME A PLACE BECAUSE OF
WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES, WHERE WE REALLY HAD TO
START TAKING A BOLD STANCE. YEAH. AND YET THERE IS PROBABLY
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH WHO DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS
NECESSARY BECAUSE THEY WERE COMFORTABLE HERE. SO DID YOU
EVER KIND OF FEEL ANY PUSHBACK FROM THE CHURCH.
>> OR MASSIVE PUSHBACK? I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WAS THE
PREDOMINANT, LIKE PUSHBACK THAT I THINK WAS WAS HARD TO DEAL
WITH. IT WASN'T REALLY FROM THE WORLD. IT WAS FRIENDLY FIRE. IT
WAS PEOPLE THAT KNEW MY HEART, PEOPLE THAT KNEW MY INTENTIONS,
PEOPLE THAT KNEW, YOU KNOW, THAT I HAD A LONG HISTORY
WITH. THOSE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THE FIERCEST IN
MANY WAYS, OPPONENTS AGAINST WHAT WE WERE DOING.
>> CHRISTIAN ON CHRISTIAN CRIME. IT IS A TRAVESTY AND
IT IS COMMON IN THE BODY OF CHRIST BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S
EFFECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S MORE HURTFUL, YOU KNOW? AND, YOU
KNOW, I HAD A MENTOR TELL ME YOU CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING
PERSONALLY. AND I HAVE LEARNED IN MINISTRY THAT
HAS GOT TO BE A WAY SO THAT YOU JUST CAN FORGIVE AND
KEEP YOUR HEART IN A POSTURE THAT IT'S STILL
SOFT SO THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN MINISTER THROUGH
YOU. BUT THAT'S HARD. >> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, IT IS.
IT REALLY. IT'S I THINK, MAINTAINING AN UNAFFORDABLE
HEART AND MAINTAINING A HEART THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET
CALLOUS, YOU DON'T GET OFFENDED, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS A LOT OF TIMES THE MORE WE DO MINISTRY,
THE MORE INTERACTIONS WE HAVE, THE MORE STUFF THAT WE START.
YOU KNOW, WE WE START TO HAVE BAD EXPERIENCES. CHURCH HURT
COMES IN ALL THESE THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I THINK WE
HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO THAT PLACE IT TALKS ABOUT IN
PROVERBS. YOU KNOW, ABOUT PROTECTING YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW,
FOR OUT OF THE HEART SPRINGS ALL LIFE. SO GUARDING YOUR
HEART AND PROTECTING IT, IT'S JUST FOR ME. IT'S BEEN A KEY IN
THIS SEASON. >> YEAH. AND YOU'VE BEEN I
WOULD SAY FOR ME AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A SPECTATOR, YOU KNOW,
SEEING EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING, IT'S BEEN EXCITING TO WATCH.
YOU'VE BEEN IN CANADA, YOU CAME OUT OF CANADA ALSO DC RIGHT.
AND I MEAN, WOW, CANADA, BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY, REALLY
STRONG CHRISTIANS. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE. THEY'RE SOME
OF OUR GREATEST PARTNERS ARE THERE. AND YET YOU HAD SO MUCH
PUSHBACK. YEAH. WERE YOU ANTICIPATING THAT AT ALL? NO. A
LITTLE SURPRISED. >> NO. I MEAN I'VE I'VE BEEN
DOING MINISTRY IN CANADA FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
>> SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT? >> VERY FAMILIAR. AND I GREW UP
ACTUALLY RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF MONTANA AND CANADA. AND SO
IT WAS IN MANY WAYS LIKE A SECOND HOME. WE WOULD
ALWAYS AS A KID, I WOULD DRIVE UP INTO ALBERTA AND,
YOU KNOW, I JUST LOVED IT. AND SO I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF
HAD THIS HEART FOR THAT COUNTRY, THOSE PEOPLE, AND
NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES IN THE PAST. AND IT WAS LIKE CRAZY. IT
WAS LIKE THIS TIME WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, MADE THE DEMONS ANGRY.
WE REALLY KICKED OFF SOMETHING. AND THE RESISTANCE, THE
PUSHBACK, THE OUTRAGE, THE MEDIA'S ATTACKS, THE
GOVERNMENT CANCELING OUR PERMITS, NONE OF THIS STUFF
I ANTICIPATED. I MEAN, HAVING BEEN IN IRAQ THIS
YEAR AND TURKEY AND ISRAEL AND MOZAMBIQUE AND BEEN
WITH A PERSECUTED CHURCH, WASN'T EXPECTING CANADA TO
BE THE BIGGEST PLACE OF RESISTANCE THIS YEAR.
>> WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
>> WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR CONTROVERSY. WE'RE NOT
HUNTING IT DOWN, OBVIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY IN CANADA. LIKE
I WAS JUST EXCITED FOR A GREAT TRIP, AMAZING EVENTS.
>> IT WAS JUST WORSHIP. >> EVENTS, JUST WORSHIP.
JUST WORSHIP AN OUTDOOR, YOU KNOW, EVANGELISM. BUT,
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE IT'S LIKE GOD WILL USE LIKE
THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT OUR MOVEMENT THAT PROVOKES.
IT'S LIKE WE'RE TAKING TERRITORY. WE'RE BRINGING
WORSHIP INTO THE CENTER OF THESE DOWNTOWN, VERY
LIBERAL CITIES WHERE WE'RE TAKING BACK ICONIC VENUES
THAT HAVE BEEN USED FOR PRIDE MARCHES. AND, YOU
KNOW, YOU KNOW, DRAG QUEEN STORY HOUR AND WHATEVER.
LIKE WE'RE TAKING THOSE BACK. WE'RE SAYING IT'S
TIME FOR THE CHURCH TO WORSHIP THAT IS THREATENING,
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIG
DIFFERENCE. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR OF
DOING IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WE'VE BEEN INSIDE A CHURCH,
DONE A CONFERENCE, BEEN IN A BUILDING, BUT NOW WE'RE SEEING
ACTUALLY, NO, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUTSIDE. THAT'S, THAT'S
THREATENING TO POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES TO, TO EVIL
MAYORS TO, YOU KNOW, CORRUPT, YOU KNOW, MPS AND PEOPLE THAT
ARE IN POWER TO ACTUALLY SEE THE CHURCH GATHER AND WORSHIP
AND PRAY. AND SO, YEAH, AND IN SOME WAYS IT DOESN'T
MAKE SENSE, BUT IN OTHER WAYS, SEEING THE EFFECT,
SEEING THE SALVATIONS, THE HEALINGS, THE BAPTISMS,
THE REVIVAL THAT'S KICKED OFF, IT DOES
MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, OH, THE POWERS
AND PRINCIPALITIES KNOW THAT'S COMING TOO. AND
THEY WANT TO FIGHT EVERY WAY THAT THEY CAN
TO GET IT TO STOP. >> AND YOU KNOW WHAT
THE THOSE PRINCIPALITIES AND
THOSE POWERS THAT BE, THEY WANT TO KEEP
CHRISTIANS MEEK AND MILD AND WITHIN THE
FOUR WALLS OF THE CHURCH. BECAUSE
ACTUALLY, WHEN WE READ THE BIBLE IN THE NEW
TESTAMENT, THEY WERE ALWAYS OUT. YEAH. YOU
KNOW, THEY OF COURSE THEY THEY MET AND THEY GATHERED
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT WE WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE
CONTAINED WITHIN THOSE FOUR WALLS. AND I THINK ABOUT I
INTERVIEWED NICHOLAS BOWLING. HE'S A STREET PREACHER. AND
WHAT I'VE NOTICED, I LOVE TO WATCH HIS VIDEOS. I LOVE TO
WATCH YOUR CONTENT. I LOVE TO WATCH PEOPLE OUT REALLY IN THE
WORLD. I THINK THERE'S JUST SOMETHING SO POWERFUL ABOUT
THAT. AND THEY A LOT OF TIMES AT THESE PRIDE FESTIVALS AND
STUFF, THEY WOULD SAY, WHY ARE YOU HERE? GO BE IN A CHURCH,
DON'T BE HERE. AND I HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I
THOUGHT, THAT'S SO INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE OKAY AS LONG AS
IT'S NOT. OUT WHERE THE LOST ARE. AND IT'S THOSE ENTITIES
DON'T LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THE WAY WE BATTLE IS THROUGH PRAYER
AND WORSHIP AND GATHERING TOGETHER AND REACHING THE LOST.
AND SO THOSE ENTITIES DON'T WANT THAT. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S
WHY WHEN YOU WENT OUT THERE AND DID THAT, THOSE THINGS, IT'S
KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE IT'S LIKE A CATALYST. YOU COME IN AND JUST
SHAKES UP WHATEVER'S THERE BECAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE
EXPOSED. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING
THROUGH YOUR MINISTRY. KIND OF LIKE A PIONEERING, YOU KNOW,
IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE GOING IN, YOU'RE TAKING GROUND.
AND SO YOU GO INTO CANADA AND NINE OF YOUR PERMITS WERE
CANCELED. >> NINE OF THE 11. YEAH.
>> AND THEY WERE APPROVED AND THEN CANCELED.
>> YEAH. A COUPLE OF THEM I THINK WERE IN PROCESS, BUT MOST
OF THEM WERE APPROVED AHEAD OF TIME. IT'S YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A
PRETTY ROBUST TEAM THAT DOES THE PERMITTING, DOES THE
INSURANCE JUMPS THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS IN CANADA THERE'S JUST A
LOT OF BUREAUCRACY. SO IT'S LIKE EVEN MORE SO THAN DOING AN
EVENT HERE. AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH THESE
DIFFERENT ENTITIES, THESE DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL GROUPS
AND, YOU KNOW, GREENLIT BY ALL OF THEM, NO PROBLEM. AND THEN,
YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WILD ACTIVISTS, YOU KNOW, CAME UP
WITH THIS RUMOR THAT I'M DANGEROUS AND I HATE GAY PEOPLE
AND WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN NARRATIVE.
NARRATIVE THAT THEY SPIN AND AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY
BASICALLY ARE THE MOB THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PUSHED THE
GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA TO WORK IN TANDEM TO ATTACK US. SO
IT WAS LIKE THE SAME TALKING POINTS ACROSS ALL THE STATE RUN
MEDIA ACROSS CANADA. YEAH. THIS GUY'S DANGEROUS. HE'S A MEGA
MAN, HE'S BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S
LIKE, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE NEW
TESTAMENT REALITY OF, YOU KNOW, PAUL AND PETER AND WHAT THESE
GUYS ENDURED, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS THEY WERE,
AS THEY WERE SLANDERED, AS THEY WERE PERSECUTED, AS, YOU KNOW,
THEY THERE WAS YOU KNOW, THEY WERE THEY WERE THEY WERE CALLED
TROUBLEMAKERS, LITERALLY. THESE ARE TROUBLEMAKERS. THEY'RE
TROUBLEMAKERS. THEY WERE RAN OUT OF CITIES. THEY WERE THROWN
INTO PRISON. THEY WERE PERSECUTED. ALL THIS STUFF AND
THE WHOLE BOOK OF ACTS IS JUST A RHYTHM OF THEM GETTING IN
TROUBLE, GETTING FREED AND GETTING IN TROUBLE AGAIN. AND
WE SEE THE GOSPEL JUST CONTINUE TO BUILD OVER THAT TIME
INCREMENTALLY. AND IT'S NOT THAT DIFFERENT NOW. YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT THAT DIFFERENT IN 2025. HOW WHEN YOU'RE CHALLENGING
THOSE POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES, THERE'S A PRICE TO PAY. AND BUT
NOT ONLY IS THERE A PRICE TO PAY, THERE ARE SOULS TO BE
SAVED IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. THERE IS THE CONTROVERSY IN AND
OF ITSELF WILL BECOME THE STATION THAT BROADCASTS YOUR
MESSAGE EVEN FARTHER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS I'VE
KIND OF LEARNED TO LEAN INTO IT. IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT, LORD, I
DIDN'T PLAN ON THIS. I DIDN'T WANT THIS. I WASN'T LOOKING FOR
THIS. BUT I KNOW THAT YOU WILL TAKE THIS AND USE IT FOR YOUR
GLORY. I KNOW THAT MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME NOW. THAT
WOULDN'T HAVE COME. I KNOW THAT PROTESTERS ARE GOING TO GET TO
HEAR THE WORD OF GOD THAT WOULD NEVER STEP FOOT IN A CHURCH. I
KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THE MEDIA IS GOING TO BE FORCED TO COVER THE
THINGS THAT I SAY THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO. OKAY,
WHAT IS THIS GUY ALL ABOUT? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
WE HAD A COUPLE STATIONS. THEY WOULD JUST ROLL ON THE LIVE
NEWS, PREACHING AND WORSHIP. I LOVE THAT. LIKE, WHEN DOES THAT
EVER HAPPEN? YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO YOU GOT TO LOOK AT HOW GOD'S
USING IT. I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE CAN FOCUS EVEN IN
SEASONS OF RESISTANCE ON THE ENEMY, THE ENEMY, THE EVIL, THE
DEVIL, YOU KNOW. BUT IT'S YOU REALLY GOT TO SHIFT YOUR
PERSPECTIVE TO SAY, OKAY, GOD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING RIGHT NOW IN
THE MIDST OF THIS? >> THAT IS SUCH A GOOD WORD. WE
ARE SEATED WITH CHRIST IN HEAVENLY PLACES, AND OUR FOCUS
NEEDS TO BE ON HIM AND UNDERSTANDING THE AUTHORITY
THAT WE HAVE IN HIM, THE IDENTITY THAT WE HAVE, THE CALL
THAT WE HAVE, AND REALLY, IN THE FACE OF CHRIST, THE ENEMY'S
NOTHING. HE'S DEFEATED ALREADY. AND SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THIS SPIRITUAL WAR THAT WE'RE IN. BUT WE DON'T NEED TO FOCUS
OR GLORIFY THE DEVIL AT ALL. WE NEED TO BE AWARE AND DISCERNING,
BUT WE HAVE AUTHORITY IN CHRIST. HE'S GIVEN US HIS AUTHORITY AS
THE CHURCH, AND WE CAN WALK IN THAT BOLDLY. AND WHAT I LOVE,
AND I THINK THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT WORD FOR EVERYONE
WHO'S WATCHING THAT. AND I'VE LEARNED THIS IN MY OWN LIFE.
WHAT MAY LOOK LIKE A SETBACK GOD WILL USE AS A SET UP FOR
SOMETHING GREATER? AND HE DID THAT IN CANADA.
>> YEAH. >> HE DID THAT WITH ALL OF
THESE PEOPLE CANCELING YOUR PERMITS. HE DID THIS WITH ALL
THIS MEDIA GOING AFTER YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I
WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS WHAT I'VE SEEN. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S
GOOD. I WANT THE BODY OF CHRIST TO UNDERSTAND THE TACTICS OF
THE ENEMY SO THEY DON'T FALL FOR THEM AS EASILY. AND SO ONE
OF THE THINGS I'VE NOTICED IS HE IS AN ACCUSER AND HE LOVES
TO USE LABELS, AND HE'LL PUT LABELS ON PEOPLE TO OFFEND THEM
SO THAT THEY BLOCK THEIR HEARTS FROM EVER RECEIVING THE
MINISTRY OF JESUS THROUGH THAT INDIVIDUAL. YEAH. AND SO WHEN
YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING TO SOMEONE BEFORE YOU MAKE A
JUDGMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE DEVIL WANTS US TO DO, GO TO
THE LORD AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS PERSON? WHAT
IS THE FRUIT OF THEIR LIFE? WHAT IS THEIR MINISTRY? AND I
THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS WE'LL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT.
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, NOT JUST BASELESS ACCUSATIONS.
IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS PERSON ACTUALLY DOING? AND I
THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING, AND YOU'VE SAID THIS AND I
THINK IT'S GREAT TO ESTABLISH, IS THAT YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO
LIKE, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR CONTROVERSY. YOU'RE NOT LIKE
RUBBING YOUR HANDS GOING IN THESE PLACES LIKE, THAT'S NOT
WHAT YOU WANT. >> YEAH, YEAH. OH YEAH. I MEAN,
WE HAVE ENOUGH CONTROVERSY. AND NOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVE FOUR KIDS
AND I HAVE A CRAZY LIFE. AND I HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL
ORGANIZATIONS AND STAFF HAVE TO MANAGE AND PROJECTS AND BOOKS
AND ALBUMS AND ALL KIND OF STUFF LIKE I DON'T, YOU KNOW,
THE ONE THING ABOUT THESE CONTROVERSIES AND NAVIGATING
THROUGH THEM, IT JUST TAKES TIME. IT'S A LOT OF BANDWIDTH,
YOU KNOW. SO OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE THEM. WE'RE NOT
TRYING TO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET MORE CLICKS. WE'RE NOT
TRYING TO GET MORE HIT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW,
BUT GOD WILL USE IT. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF ALWAYS THE THING
I HAVE TO REMIND MY TEAM. I HAVE TO REMIND MY MY FAMILY, MY
WIFE ABOUT LIKE, HEY, LISTEN, WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS FIGHT,
BUT IT CAME TO US. YEAH. AND MAYBE GOD IS TRYING TO UNVEIL
AND UNMASK THIS HEAVY ANTI-CHRISTIAN BIAS THAT'S
RESTING IN THIS COUNTRY THAT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, AND HE'S
TRYING TO SHOW US WHO OUR REAL FRIENDS ARE, HOW WE NEED TO
FIGHT AND HOW GOD COULD USE US. I MEAN, IN, IN, IN MANY
PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU JUST TAKE THE CANDIDATE INCIDENT,
FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE WE'VE BECOME THE, THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS, YOU
KNOW, AND IT'S LIKE THERE'S A LEADERSHIP VACUUM WHERE GOD'S
LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO RISE UP. MAYBE I'M THE MOST UNLIKELY GUY.
OF COURSE I'M NOT EVEN CANADIAN, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT GOD WILL USE
ANYBODY WHO SAYS, HERE I AM. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
AVAILABILITY IS HUGE IN THE KINGDOM. ARE YOU AVAILABLE? ARE
YOU READY? GOD WILL USE YOU AND YOU GOT TO WITHSTAND THE
ATTACKS. YOU GOT TO PULL OUT THE ARROWS. YOU GOT TO KEEP
YOUR HEART CLEAN. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO STAY CONNECTED TO WHAT
REALLY MATTERS. BUT. BUT GOD WILL USE ANYBODY. AND THE MOST
OF THE TIME, ALMOST ALL THE TIME IT'S GOING
TO RUFFLE FEATHERS. >> SO CAN YOU TELL ABOUT HOW
GOD USED THE SITUATION IN CANADA TO ACTUALLY BE A SET UP
FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS GOOD? >> YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT,
YOU KNOW, BILLY GRAHAM HAS A STATEMENT WHO SAYS THE YOU KNOW,
IT SAYS WHEN A BOLD MAN TAKES A STAND, IT'S WHEN A COURAGEOUS
MAN TAKES A STAND. THE SPINES OF EVERYONE ELSE ARE STIFFENED.
YEAH. SO I THINK IT CAUSES A REACTION. PEOPLE HAVE TO REACT.
EITHER THAT GUY'S CRAZY AND HE SHOULD HAVE HIS PERMITS SHUT
DOWN, WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY, SOME CHRISTIANS WOULD BELIEVE
OR WOULD I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY ARE SAYING IS FINALLY, SOMEONE
IS CHALLENGING THESE SYSTEMS THAT HAVE HELD BACK, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, IT'S LIKE IF YOU CAN'T DO WHAT THE
BIBLE SAYS TO DO, PREACH THE WORD, SING THE WORD, AND DO IT
IN A WAY LIKE, WHAT CAN YOU DO? YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S
LIKE, THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT,
RIGHT? BECAUSE IF THE GOVERNMENT TRIES TO HAMSTRING
OR COME AGAINST OUR CALLING AS BELIEVERS, ARE WE GOING TO
LISTEN TO THE GOVERNMENT? ARE WE GOING TO LISTEN TO GOD?
>> EXACTLY. >> SO SO THAT YOU KNOW, THE
GOOD THE SILVER LINING IS, IS THAT ONE WE THE TOUR WENT ON
AND IT GOT WAY BIGGER AND WAY MORE FREE PRESS THAN WE COULD
HAVE EVER GOTTEN BY HERSELF. TWO IT FOREVER REVEALED THE
STATE OF APATHY OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THAT WOULDN'T RISE UP.
WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE THAT'LL ULTIMATELY BE CONVICTING, YOU
KNOW? YEAH, I HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO ME ALL THE TIME THAT
ARE LIKE, MAN, I REALLY LIKE DIDN'T RESPOND WELL IN THE
PANDEMIC. AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S OKAY BECAUSE ANOTHER
TEST IS COMING. YEAH. SO LEARN, YOU KNOW, LEARN HOW TO DO IT
DIFFERENTLY. DON'T FEEL SHAME. JUST GET FREE AND LEARN HOW TO
DO IT DIFFERENTLY. GET BOLD. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S ANOTHER
BYPRODUCT WE'VE SEEN IS GREAT BOLDNESS OUT OF SOMETHING LIKE
THIS. >> YEAH. AND YOU KNOW IT'S SUCH
IT'S THAT I LOVE THAT ENCOURAGING MESSAGE BECAUSE
IT'S LIKE YOU CAN LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES. I THINK THE
PANDEMIC WOKE SO MANY PEOPLE UP, AND IT MADE PEOPLE REALIZE EVEN
IF YOU DIDN'T RESPOND AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, I COULD HAVE
DONE THIS DIFFERENTLY. JUST FORGIVE YOURSELF AND DO IT
RIGHT THE NEXT TIME. AND I JUST THINK WHAT I THINK ABOUT WITH
CANADA, AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN JUST IN WESTERN CHRISTIANITY IN
GENERAL, IS THIS WHOLE THING OF LIKE NICE CHRISTIANS. AND I
THINK CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE, WELL, I'M SUPPOSED TO BE NICE. AND
THAT'S VERY EASILY MANIPULATED. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS
CHRISTIAN WERE TRYING TO DO TO BE NICE, BUT THAT ACTUALLY
ISN'T BIBLICAL. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU
STUDY THE BOOK OF ACTS LIKE, NO, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PREACH THE
GOSPEL. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO REACH THE LOST. WE ARE SUPPOSED
TO STAND UP FOR TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE WE ARE
AMBASSADORS OF CHRIST. AND THAT IS NOT JUST LAYING DOWN AND
LETTING EVIL RUN AMOK IN SOCIETY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO STAND AS MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD NOT ONLY TO FOR
THE COUNTRY, BUT FOR EVEN THE CHILDREN. YOU THINK ABOUT HOW
CHILDREN ARE BEING TARGETED. >> YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT
PEOPLE, THEY FORGET, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE IT'S LIKE THE LION
OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, OUR FATHER'S LION. HE'S MADE US TO
BE LIONS. AND IN MANY WAYS, THE CHURCH HAS BECOME THAT. YOU
KNOW, THAT THAT APATHETIC LION IN THE ZOO THAT YOU KNOW, HAS
HIS HAIR PERFECTLY AND HIS NAILS DECLAWED. HE DOESN'T EVER,
YOU KNOW, HUNT LIKE LIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO HUNT, YOU KNOW, AND
HE JUST KIND OF GETS HIS MEAT, YOU KNOW, FED TO HIM. AND HE'S
JUST FAT AND LAZY. >> BUT DON'T YOU THINK THAT
PEOPLE WITH YOU. THAT'S WHY MAYBE SOME PEOPLE HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY CHALLENGING THEIR
APATHY. >> YEAH, I THINK IT'S
CONVICTING. I THINK IT'S CHALLENGING THEIR APATHY. AND I
THINK IN MANY WAYS IT'S PROBABLY LIKE DAVID'S BROTHERS,
I, YOU KNOW, HE DAVID WAS INHERENTLY MISUNDERSTOOD. WHY
ARE YOU ON THE BATTLEFIELD? DO YOU JUST CARE ABOUT YOU JUST
CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING A SELFIE WITH GOLIATH? DO YOU
JUST CARE ABOUT BEING IN THE MIX OF EVERYTHING HIS HIS
BROTHERS INTERPRETED HIS CONFIDENCE IN GOD AS ARROGANCE
IN HIM. AND I THINK THAT HAPPENS A LOT OF TIMES,
ESPECIALLY IN OUR CULTURE THAT'S SO SOFT AND FEMINIZED.
YEAH. WHERE IT'S LIKE WE WANT LIKE NICENESS IS THE HIGHEST
VIRTUE, WHICH IS NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE, AND COURAGE AND STRENGTH
AND VALOR AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE SEEN AS ARROGANT AND
PRIDEFUL. AND SO DAVID'S BROTHERS WERE TRYING TO
DISSUADE HIM FROM STEPPING INTO HIS CALLING FROM GOD, WHICH WAS
TO SLAY THE GIANT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY WERE TELLING
HIM THAT HE WAS ARROGANT AND HE JUST WANTED TO BE THE CENTER OF
THE STORYLINE. AND THANK GOD HE DIDN'T LISTEN TO HIS BROTHERS.
AND HE HELD FAST TO HIS CALLING, HIS MANDATE. AND I THINK THAT
THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS, YEAH, THE THE YOU KNOW, THE
CROWD IS ALWAYS GOING TO SAY THIS. THEY'LL HAVE THEIR
OPINIONS. THE SOCIAL MEDIA TROLLS WILL HAVE THEIR OPINIONS,
THE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS WILL HAVE THEIR OPINIONS. BUT
IN THE END OF THE DAY, ONLY ONE OPINION MATTERS.
>> THAT'S SO TRUE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DOESN'T. HONESTLY, I
FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS GOD HAS TAUGHT ME IS IT DOESN'T
MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK WHAT
THEY THINK REGARDLESS. AND WE'LL ALL STAND BEFORE GOD ONE
DAY. AND WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT HE SAYS. WELL DONE, GOOD AND
FAITHFUL SERVANT. AND IF PEOPLE COULD JUST LEARN TO PUSH
FORWARD AND NOT ALLOW THE CRITICISMS OF PEOPLE, EVEN
FELLOW CHRISTIANS, TO STOP THEM AND REALIZE I AM ACCOUNTABLE TO
GOD AND THE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE AND NOT STRANGERS WHO DON'T
KNOW ME. I'M NOT GOING TO FALL FOR THIS, BUT I THINK SO MANY
PEOPLE GET SWAYED BY THE MOB, AND IT'S A GREAT TACTIC OF THE
ENEMY TO JUST GET PEOPLE TO NOT WALK IN THE FULLNESS OF THEIR
CALLING. BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT THE MOMENT YOU SHOW YOUR
CARDS TO THE DEVIL LIKE THAT, LIKE, OH, I'LL CAVE UNDER
PRESSURE OF WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT ME, THEN HE'LL PLAY THAT
ON YOU EVERY SINGLE TIME TO GET YOU TO STOP. AND SO REALLY, THE
ONLY WAY TO BE EFFECTIVE IS TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I THINK IF
CHRISTIANS COULD REALIZE THAT THIS IS A SPIRITUAL ATTACK AND
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK, IT WOULD BE SO MUCH
BETTER FOR THE KINGDOM, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE
THINK AND THE ENEMY IS GOING TO BE AGAINST YOU IF YOU'RE DOING.
AND JESUS SAID, IF THEY HATE ME, THEY'RE GOING TO HATE YOU. AND
HE WAS PERFECT. HE DID LIKE, WE'RE NOT PERFECT. HE DID
NOTHING WRONG. AND THEN THEY CRUCIFIED HIM. YEAH. YOU KNOW,
SO I'M LIKE, WHY DO WE THINK THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO LIKE
THIS? BUT I JUST THINK WE COME OUT OF THIS KIND OF WESTERNIZED
INFLUENCER CHRISTIAN CULTURE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU ARE
FOLLOWING JESUS, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
MAKE PEOPLE UPSET. >> YEAH. I MEAN, THE BIBLE IS
REALLY CLEAR. IF YOU WANT TO BE A FRIEND OF THE WORLD, YOU'RE
GOING TO BE AN ENEMY TOWARDS GOD. YEP. AND SO WHERE WHERE IS
YOUR VALUE SYSTEM? DO YOU WANT TO BE LIKED? DO YOU WANT TO BE
FRIENDS WITH THE WORLD? DO YOU WANT TO BE DEEMED, OH, IT'S A
GOOD PERSON. OR WHICH IF THAT'S YOUR GOAL, YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING
TO BE AN ENEMY OF GOD? YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH.
>> SO NO YOU CAN'T. >> YOU KNOW, WHAT GOOD IS IT
FOR A MAN YOU KNOW, GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL.
SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR WHERE WE HAVE TO ADJUST OUR,
IN OUR MINDS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WHERE OUR VALUE
SYSTEM IS. IS IT IN WHAT THE WORLD THINKS ABOUT US,
OR IS IT IN WHAT GOD SAYS WE ARE? YOU KNOW, AND
ULTIMATELY, THAT'S THE QUESTION WE ALL HAVE TO
ANSWER. AND THAT WILL LEAD TO THE WAY IN WHICH WE LIVE,
THE DECISIONS WE MAKE. YOU KNOW, HOW WE ARE AFFECTED. ARE WE
CONSTANTLY LIKE THIS GENERATION IS CONSTANTLY OVERWHELMED WITH
MENTAL FATIGUE AND THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR CHAOS AND CONFUSION
AND IDENTITY ISSUES AND ALL THIS STUFF? WHY? IT'S BECAUSE
THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING HERE ALWAYS TO FIND THEIR IDENTITY.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE
ALWAYS LOOKING HERE. AND INSTEAD OF LIKE HERE, STAYING
HERE. >> AND YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE
ON ANOTHER INTERVIEW, HOW IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE THE FEAR
OF GOD. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? >> YEAH. I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU
HAVE TO BE. THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM,
CARE MORE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT THE FEAR OF THE LORD LIKE I, I
WITH THE LORD. WOULD DISRUPT MY RELATIONSHIP
>> YEAH. >> LIKE THAT TO ME, IS THE
HIGHEST LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE
MARRIED OR YOU LOVE SOMEBODY OR WHATEVER, AND IT'S LIKE YOU
JUST FEEL SO BAD IF YOU LET YOUR WIFE DOWN OR YOU LET YOUR,
YOU KNOW, YOU DO SOMETHING THAT HURTS THEM. LIKE, I WANT TO
FEEL THAT TOWARDS THE LORD STRONGER. I WANT TO FEEL LIKE
LIKE THIS SOBRIETY. I WANT TO LIVE IN RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE FATHER. AND THAT TO ME IS GOING TO DRIVE MY DECISIONS.
THAT TO ME IS GOING TO DRIVE, YOU KNOW WHY I DO THE THINGS
THAT I DO AND HOW I RESPOND. AND IF AND IF THAT BECOMES YOUR
YOUR VALUE OF SUCCESS IN YOUR LIFE, YOU JUST LIVE DIFFERENTLY,
YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE DIFFERENTLY. YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW,
CONSTANTLY CHECKING THE WEATHER TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK AND
CHECKING POLLING ONLINE TO SEE HOW YOU'RE DOING. YOU KNOW,
THAT STUFF COMES AND GOES, POPULARITY COMES AND GOES,
CLICKS COME AND GO, FAME COME AND GO. ALL THAT STUFF. YOUR
OWN REPUTATION. PEOPLE FEEL LIKE IT'S THEIR JOB TO GUARD
THEIR REPUTATION. I HEAR THAT A LOT. WELL, YOU KNOW YOUR
REPUTATION. LIKE I DON'T GIVE A RIP ABOUT MY REPUTATION. YOU
KNOW, I CARE WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT ME, YOU KNOW? AND I THINK
THAT THAT PEOPLE GOT TO GET FREE OF THAT. IT'S A MAN
PLEASING SPIRIT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'LL KEEP YOUR WHEEL SPINNING
AND IT'LL KEEP YOU DEPRESSED. IT'LL KEEP YOU HOPELESS, YOU
KNOW. >> AND WE'RE NOT. THE BIBLE
SAYS THOSE WHO ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD ARE SONS OF GOD.
WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE WORRYING ABOUT TRENDS OR WHERE
THE CROWD IS GOING. IT'S LIKE JESUS. WHEN HE LIVED ON EARTH,
HE WAS PROPELLED. HE SAID, I ONLY SAY AND DO WHAT I SEE MY
FATHER SAYING AND DOING. AND SO THAT IS THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE
NEED TO BE HEAVENLY MINDED, NOT WORLDLY MINDED. AND, YOU KNOW,
I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PLEASE
MAN AND PLEASE GOD AND YOU HAVE YOUR FOOT IN TWO CAMPS IN THE
WORLD AND IN HEAVEN, IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, FIRST OF ALL,
THE BIBLE SAYS A DOUBLE MINDED MAN IS UNSTABLE IN ALL OF HIS
WAYS. BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S LUKEWARM CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE
YOU'RE NEITHER HOT NOR COLD. AND IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO MAKE
A CHOICE. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH EVERY BELIEVER THAT
WILL COME A POINT IN THEIR LIFE IF THEY ARE WALKING IN THE WILL
OF GOD WHERE THEY CAN'T STAY IN BOTH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
MAKE A CHOICE. YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW THAT. I MEAN, THE BIBLE
GOES AS FAR TO SAY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT SOMEONE WHO CAN KILL YOUR
BODY. HE SAYS, WORRY ABOUT THE ONE WHO CAN KILL YOU, BODY AND
SOUL. YEAH. AND SO WE, LIKE YOU SAID WE NEED TO FEAR GOD MORE
THAN WE FEAR MAN. AND I KNOW YOU'VE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A
LOT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE LIKE I SAID, YOU KIND OF HAVE THIS
PIONEER KIND OF TRAILBLAZING THING. WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU
GET WEARY? AND IT'S JUST LIKE, IT'S A LOT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S NORMAL. YOU KNOW, I THINK
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE WE'RE ALL JUST HUMAN. AND, YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES AND DIFFERENT
CALLINGS, BUT LIKE YOU, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE WHEN
WE WALK THROUGH SOMETHING, IT'S NORMAL TO FEEL IT. IT'S NORMAL
TO, TO, YOU KNOW, PROCESS ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT YOU
KNOW, IT'S LIKE I LOVE THIS STORY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DAVID
AND ZIKLAG, YOU KNOW, HIS OWN PEOPLE WERE AGAINST HIM. HE
LOST. HE HE FELT LIKE HIS DECISIONS JEOPARDIZED HIS WHOLE
THE CHILDREN AND HIS OWN PEOPLE TRIBE. HE LOST THE WOMEN AND
WERE TALKING ABOUT STONING HIM AND KILLING HIM. AND IT SAID,
BUT DAVID FOUND STRENGTH IN THE LORD, AND THERE HAS TO BE A, A,
A, A RESERVOIR OF INTIMACY WITH THE LORD THAT YOU BUILD OVER
TIME. AND THIS IS ONE THING IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR
YOUNG PEOPLE TO REALIZE YOUNG LEADERS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT
QUICK IMPARTATION. WE WANT WE WANT LAYING ON OF HANDS. WE
WANT ALL THESE THINGS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I CAN IMPART TO
YOU IS MY HISTORY WITH THE LORD. YEAH. THE ONE THING I CAN
IMPART TO YOU IS THE HOURS OF BUILDING, CONNECTION,
RELATIONSHIP, READING THE WORD WORSHIPING. AND IT'S IN THOSE
SEASONS OF TENSION OR DRAMA OR WHATEVER WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE
TO DRAW FROM THAT. WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY YOU'RE REALLY
DRAWING FROM THAT WELL OF, OF INTIMACY WITH THE LORD AND, AND,
YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S, THAT YOU'RE STAYING
CONNECTED THERE, I THINK IS SUPER, SUPER IMPORTANT.
>> THAT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT WORD. I JUST HAVE TO, LIKE,
REITERATE WHAT WHAT SEAN IS SAYING IS THAT AND I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT TO BUILD YEARS WITH THE LORD. AND I THINK
PEOPLE GET YOUNG AND THEY'RE YOUNG AND FIERY AND THEY WANT
TO GO OUT. BUT IT JUST TRUST GOD'S TIMING IN THE PROCESS.
HE'S TAKING YOU THROUGH BECAUSE HE'S BUILDING YOU UP AND HE'S
TEACHING YOU AND EMBRACE HIM IN ALL THE SEASONS. THERE'S AN
INTIMACY IN THE HARD SEASONS THAT WILL FORM AND SHAPE YOU IN
A WAY THAT NOTHING ELSE WILL. AND IF YOU HAVE THAT RESERVOIR,
LIKE YOU SAID, IT WILL. YOU KNOW, I READ THIS IN A DALLAS
WILLARD BOOK ABOUT SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES. HE SAYS WHEN A
PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE HITS A HOME RUN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING
OUT OF LUCK. IT WAS FROM THEM PRACTICING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
YEAH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLED TO DO FAST, PRAY, SPEND
TIME WITH THE LORD. WHEN WE DO THESE SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES
EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHEN THE MOMENT COMES FOR US TO HIT A
HOME RUN FOR THE KINGDOM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HARD BECAUSE
THAT RESERVOIR IS THERE. AND WHEN YOU'RE AT YOUR LOWEST OF
LOWS, CALL ON JESUS. YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE. I MEAN, WHEN THE
DEVIL HITS YOU WHERE IT HURTS THE MOST AND YOU MAYBE WANT TO
QUIT AND YOU WANT TO GIVE UP, OR YOU WANT TO HARDEN YOUR
HEART EVEN AGAINST GOD. LIKE I WOULD JUST ECHO THAT, TURN TO
HIM IN THAT MOMENT LIKE DAVID DID, BECAUSE I WAS THE WORST
DAY OF HIS LIFE. BUT THAT WAS THE TEST THAT HE PASSED, AND
THEN HE WAS KING AFTER THAT. AND SO IN THE MOMENT WHERE IT
FEELS LIKE IT'S THE DARKEST, THAT'S ACTUALLY WHEN
BREAKTHROUGH IS THE CLOSEST. AMEN. AND SO I JUST SAY,
EVERYONE DON'T GIVE UP, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE, I, YOU KNOW, I
JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. WE'RE OUT OF TIME. YOU'RE GONNA
COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA DO MORE EPISODES. THIS IS JUST SUCH
WISDOM. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT
YOU'RE DOING. AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE AUDIENCE THAT
WE'RE ALL CALLED TO DIFFERENT MINISTRIES, AND I THINK WE MAKE
A MISTAKE IN OUR NARROW UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE SEE
SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE MIGHT NOT
UNDERSTAND IT, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT EVERY PERSON IN THE
KINGDOM IS DOING IS IMPORTANT AND THERE FOR A REASON. IT'S
LIKE WE'RE ONE BODY. IF A HAND LOOKS AT YOUR LIVER, OF COURSE
THEY LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, BUT BOTH FUNCTION FOR THE
HEALTH OF THE BODY. AND SO KEEP SEAN GUYS IN YOUR PRAYERS. AND,
YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. AND
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON THE PODCAST.
>> IT'S AN HONOR. IT'S AN HONOR. [MUSIC]