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BUILDING THAT NO MUSCLE THROUGH
REPS. AND ONE OF THE WAYS YOU

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GET THE REPS IS BY SAYING, NO,
I DON'T GET EVERYTHING I WANT.

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>> HEY GUYS. WELCOME BACK TO
THE PODCAST. I AM JOINED TODAY

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WITH KEENAN CLARK.
>> COME ON EVANGELIST.

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>> COME.
>> ON YOUNG EVANGELIST.

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>> THANKS REBECCA.
>> YOU GOT YOU GOT THAT LIKE

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FIRE IN YOU.
>> YEAH I DO A LITTLE BIT. YEAH.

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>> IT'S LIKE SOMETIMES THE
WHOLE LIKE FIRE IN MY BONES

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THING IS LIKE. YEAH I REALLY
IDENTIFY WITH THAT. LIKE SOME

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PEOPLE ARE LIKE YOU YELL A LOT.
I'M LIKE, I REALLY HAVE NO

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OTHER CHOICE. IT'S JUST IN
THERE.

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>> YEAH, YEAH. NO, BUT YOU KNOW,
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT WITH

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I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT LIKE, SUPER
YOUNG. I WOULD SAY YOU'RE LIKE,

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IN THE MIDDLE. YOU'RE 30. YEAH.
AND SO YOU'VE BEEN IN MINISTRY

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FOR YOU HAVE SOME YEARS IN YOU
AND YOU GREW UP IN MINISTRY.

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YEAH. SO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN
THAT AS WELL. BUT WHAT'S REALLY

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INTERESTING IS I JUST HAD
JOSEPH Z HERE, AND HE WAS

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TALKING ABOUT HOW THE OLDER
GENERATION NEEDS THE YOUNGER

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GENERATION, HOW THEY NEED TO
COME TOGETHER HAND IN HAND

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BECAUSE THE OLDER GENERATION
NEEDS THAT ENERGY AND THAT

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YOUTH AND THAT FIRE IN THE
YOUNGER GENERATION NEEDS WISDOM

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AND GUIDANCE. AND IF WE CAN
COME TOGETHER INSTEAD OF

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CLASHING AGAINST EACH OTHER,
WHICH IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN THE

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CHURCH. YEAH, WE COULD MAKE
SUCH A BETTER IMPACT FOR THE

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KINGDOM.
>> BIG TIME. YOU KNOW, I LIKE

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TO SAY NEW NEW SCHOOL PLUS OLD
SCHOOL EQUALS BEST SCHOOL.

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>> YEAH, I LOVE THAT.
>> I THINK WE GOT TO HAVE THE

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OLD SCHOOL AND THE NEW SCHOOL.
WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM EACH

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OTHER.
>> AND SPEAKING OF OLD SCHOOL,

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WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT YOUR
BOOK, CHANGE THE WORLD ON AN

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EMPTY STOMACH. THE REASON WHY I
SAY OLD SCHOOL IS BECAUSE IT'S

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ABOUT FASTING. AND FASTING IS
SUCH A LONG, OBVIOUSLY

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PRINCIPLE IN THE CHURCH. IT'S
IN THE BIBLE. THOUSANDS OF

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YEARS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FASTING,
AND YET IN THE NEW SCHOOL IT'S

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BEEN KIND OF FORGOTTEN. BIG
TIME, NOT REALLY BEING TALKED

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ABOUT. HONESTLY, IT'S NOT
REALLY BEING TALKED ABOUT MUCH.

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>> YEAH. NO, I THINK IT'S LIKE
IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE

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THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO POO
POO IT. AND YEAH, IT KIND OF

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LIKE IT LITERALLY. AND LIKE I
FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING A

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LITTLE DEEP QUICK, BUT I LIKE
THAT IN THE ERA AND I'M ALL FOR

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THIS. BUT IN THE ERA THAT IT
REALLY BEGAN, THE NARRATIVE

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BEGAN TO SHIFT OF, WELL, IT'S
NOT ABOUT A RELIGION, IT'S

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ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP. ALL OF
THE THINGS THAT MAKE A

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RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD LIKE
HAPPEN. WE THREW OUT. SO LIKE

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READING OUR BIBLE, PRAYER,
FASTING, ALL THESE THINGS ARE,

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OH, THAT'S RELIGIOUS. WE DON'T.
IT'S JUST ABOUT BEING IN

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RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. WELL, A
RELATIONSHIP HAS LIKE BUILT IN

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THINGS WHERE YOU COME AROUND
AND YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS IS

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HOW WE SPEND TIME TOGETHER.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO. THIS IS HOW

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WE FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP.
AND I AGREE, LEGALISM AND THE

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LEAVEN OF RELIGION NEEDED TO GO.
BUT THE THINGS THAT LIKE MAKE A

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RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD WORK AND
TEACH US ABOUT GOD, I MEAN,

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THEOLOGY, THE STUDY OF GOD. YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT SHOULD

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MATTER TO US AND LIKE US TAKING,
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A NEW

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GENERATION NEEDS, NEEDS,
ANCIENT PRINCIPLES, ANCIENT

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TRUTH. THAT'S WHY I'M THANKFUL
FOR THE SCRIPTURES. IN 200

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YEARS FROM NOW, SHOULD CHRIST
TARRY AND NOT COME BACK IN OUR

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LIFETIME, WHICH I REALLY DO
BELIEVE HE WILL. I BELIEVE WE

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WERE ON THE PRECIPICE OF THE
RETURN OF CHRIST. THE BIBLE

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WILL STILL SAY WHAT IT SAYS.
YEAH, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE

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CULTURE IS AT. I MEAN, IF WE
KEEP GOING IN THE WAY

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EVERYTHING'S TRENDING, WHO
KNOWS WHAT KIND OF CULTURE WILL

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BE HERE IN 200 YEARS. BUT THE
WORD OF GOD REMAINS TRUE, AND

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THE PRINCIPLES WILL ALWAYS WORK.
AND, AND AND THE WORD HAS HAS

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BUILT IN PROMISES AND BUILT IN
GUARANTEES. AND OUR PROBLEM IS

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WE JUST DON'T ENACT THEM. YOU
KNOW, WE ALL WE JUST WANT LIKE,

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WELL, GIVE ME SOMETHING TO
BELIEVE. GIVE ME SOMETHING TO

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REPEAT TO MYSELF IN THE MIRROR.
AND IT'S LIKE, ACTUALLY YOU

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NEED SOMETHING YOU NEED. IT'S
NOT WHAT YOU NEED TO REPEAT

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YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR. YOU
NEED TO PUSH YOUR PLATE ASIDE

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AND SEEK THE LORD. YOU KNOW,
THAT'S OUR PROBLEM. WE'RE SO

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ADDICTED WITH LOOKING AT
OURSELVES IN THE MIRROR THAT WE

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NEVER HOLD THE MIRROR UP AND
SEE LIKE, LORD, CHANGE ME.

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THAT'S THE WORD OF GOD IS. IT
IS A MIRROR. IT SHOWS YOU, MAN,

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THIS IS WHERE I NEED YOU. LORD
PRODUCES THAT. PSALM 51 LIKE A

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REPENTANT HEART THAT I THINK
YOU KNOW, WE LACK A LOT OF THE

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TIME.
>> YEAH. AND YOU TAPPED IN SUCH

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A GOOD POINT THAT WE NEED THAT
ANCIENT TRUTH, THAT ANCIENT

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WISDOM THAT'S FOUND IN GOD'S
WORD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE

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PRODUCTS OF OUR CULTURE,
WHETHER WE REALIZE IT OR NOT.

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FOR SURE. WE LIVE IN A VERY
MUCH A MICROWAVE CULTURE. WE

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WANT PLEASURE. WE WANT THINGS
QUICKLY. YEAH. INSTANT

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GRATIFICATION. YEAH. AND DENIAL
OF SELF IS NOT POPULAR SPEAK,

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ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA,
ESPECIALLY IN WESTERN CULTURE.

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AND SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE IN THEIR

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FLESH WILL WANT TO HEAR. BUT I
THINK YOU HIT SUCH AN IMPORTANT

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TOPIC, WHICH IS AND I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT THIS, IS THAT PEOPLE

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SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT ABOUT
RELIGION, IT'S ABOUT A

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RELATIONSHIP. AND YOU SAID THIS
IN ANOTHER INTERVIEW, WHICH IS,

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WELL, WHAT IS YOUR WHY? YEAH,
BECAUSE I DON'T FAST TO BE

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SAVED. I'M SAVED BY THE BLOOD
OF JESUS. BUT I FAST BECAUSE

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I'M A DISCIPLE OF JESUS. I'M A
FOLLOWER OF JESUS. AND IF HE

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DID IT AND IT WAS IMPORTANT IN
HIS LIFE AND HIS EARTHLY

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MINISTRY, HOW MUCH MORE SHOULD
I AS A FOLLOWER DO IT AS WELL?

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AND WHY WOULDN'T I DENY MYSELF
TO HAVE MORE OF HIM? AND SO WE

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TAP INTO WE'RE NOT SAVED BY
WHAT WE DO, BUT AS DISCIPLES

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WE'RE CALLED TO FOLLOW
SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES SO THAT

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WE'LL BE SPIRITUALLY FIT. YOU
THINK ABOUT THE APOSTLE PAUL.

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HE SAYS, I TRAIN MY BODY LIKE
AN ATHLETE, THAT I MIGHT RUN

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THE RACE AND FINISH IT, YOU
KNOW, TO RECEIVE THAT PRIZE.

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AND SO WE ARE RUNNING A RACE,
AND WE WILL STAND BEFORE GOD,

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AND GOD WANTS US TO BE WALKING
IN THE FULLNESS OF HIM. HE

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WANTS US TO WALK IN VICTORY.
AND FASTING IS A TOOL THAT HE

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HAS GIVEN US TO. LIKE YOU SAID,
PUT YOUR FLESH INTO SUBMISSION

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TO HIS WILL AND TO RECEIVE MORE
OF HIM. SO IT'S NOT RELIGIOUS.

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AND SO WE HAVE TO BREAK OFF
THAT LIE.

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>> BIG TIME. YEAH. THERE'S A
THERE'S A STIGMA THAT COMES

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WITH IT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S
ALMOST LIKE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I

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DON'T WANT TO CATCH RELIGION,
YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE AS

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IF IT'S A BOOGEYMAN, YOU KNOW,
OR SOMETHING. AND IF, IF I'M

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GIVEN THE OPTIONS HERE, LET'S
SAY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST DOING

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WHATEVER I WANT AND CLAIMING
THE GRACE OF GOD WILL COVER IT

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IS OVER HERE. AND THEN STEPPING
INTO A RELIGION IS ON THIS SIDE.

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I WOULD RATHER AIR CLOSER TO
THIS SIDE BECAUSE I JUST THINK

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IT'S A IT'S A NOBLER FALL. YOU
STILL GOT TO REPENT, GET BACK

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UP. BUT IT'S A NOBLER FALL TO
FALL INTO. LIKE, OH, MAN, I'M

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OPERATING IN A RELIGIOUS SPIRIT
BECAUSE AT LEAST IT'S LIKE,

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LORD, I CARE ABOUT YOUR WORD.
I'M TRYING. MAYBE I DID MAKE

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MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
RELIGION. I WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND

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OF LIKE PUTTING A HEAVY BURDEN
ON MYSELF AND OTHERS. BUT AT

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LEAST I'M TRYING, YOU KNOW WHAT
I'M SAYING? AND SO I WOULD

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RATHER RUN THE RISK IF I'M
GOING TO, TO ONE SIDE OR THE

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OTHER, I HAVE MADE THE DECISION.
I WOULD RATHER RUN THE RISK OF

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SOMEBODY CALLING ME LEGALISTIC
OR SOMEBODY CALLING ME, OH,

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YOU'RE JUST YOU'RE RELIGIOUS OR
WHATEVER. THEN SOMEONE BEING

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LIKE, OH, THEN YOU'RE SORT OF
LIKE TAKING THE GRACE OF GOD IN

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VAIN.
>> LIKE TAKING IT FOR GRANTED.

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>> YEAH. TAKING IT FOR GRANTED.
YOU KNOW, TITUS SAYS THAT

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CHAPTER TWO, HE SAYS IT IS THE
GRACE OF GOD THAT TEACHES YOU

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TO SAY NO TO UNGODLINESS. THE
GRACE WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT

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TAUGHT US HOW TO SAY, I'M SORRY.
NOT NO. THE REAL BIBLICAL GRACE

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TEACHES YOU HOW TO SAY NO. YOU
SAY NO ON THE FRONT SIDE OF SIN.

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YOU SAY, I'M SORRY ON THE BACK
SIDE. AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF

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CHRISTIANS WHO ARE GOOD AT
SAYING, I'M SORRY, AND THEN GO

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AND DO IT AGAIN. BUT, OH, I CAN
SAY GRACE. SO I'M SAYING I'M

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SORRY AGAIN VERSUS STANDING UP
AND SAYING, NO. THE GRACE OF

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GOD HAS CHANGED MY MIND THAT
THIS IS A A BEHAVIOR THAT IS IN

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DISCORDANCE WITH WHO I AM AS A
SON OF GOD. THIS IS IN

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DISCORDANCE WITH WHO I AM AS A
BLOOD BOUGHT, COMPLETELY

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REGENERATED, MADE IN THE IMAGE
SON OF GOD. AND YEAH, I NO

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LONGER WANT TO BEHAVE IN THAT
WAY. AND DO I FALL AND DO I

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STILL? YES. BUT I ALSO DON'T
THINK IT SHOULD BE THE SAME

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FLAVOR OF ERROR. THE REST OF
YOUR LIFE. WE WILL ALL SIN. WE

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WILL STILL ALL NEED THE GRACE
OF GOD. BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE

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LIKE, MAN. I'VE BEEN JUST
DEALING WITH THIS SINCE, YOU

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KNOW, 95. IT'S LIKE, HAVE YOU
EVER REALLY TOLD ANYBODY THEN

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ARE YOU REALLY WALKING IN THE
LIGHT AS HE IS IN THE LIGHT?

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ARE YOU REALLY LIKE PEOPLE ARE
LIKE, WELL THEN MAYBE THEY'RE

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LIKE, WE'RE GETTING DEEP QUICK,
SORRY. BUT LIKE, PEOPLE ARE

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LIKE, MAN, I'M A ADDICTED TO
THIS OR THAT ON MY PHONE. AND

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IT'S LIKE, DO YOU REALLY NEED A
PHONE? WELL, YOU KNOW, LIKE

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EVERYBODY'S GOT A PHONE. REALLY?
SOUNDS LIKE YOURS IS A HUGE

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STUMBLING BLOCK. LIKE, MAYBE
YOU NEED TO HAVE LIKE, A FLIP

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PHONE OR RELY ON SOMEBODY ELSE
THAT HAS A PHONE, BECAUSE TO ME,

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THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IS CHRIST
LIKENESS. TO ME, THE HIGHEST

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PRIORITY IS OBEDIENCE,
CONSECRATION, WALKING IN THE

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GRACE OF GOD. NOT AM I RELEVANT,
IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND SADLY,

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FASTING IS JUST NOT A VERY
RELEVANT MESSAGE, SO THEREFORE

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IT DOESN'T GET TALKED ABOUT.
>> YEAH, I THINK ABOUT PEOPLE

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THOUGH WHO DID TALK, WHO DO
TALK ABOUT FASTING A LOT, AND

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THERE IS JUST SUCH AN ANOINTING
ON THEIR MINISTRIES LIKE

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JENTEZEN FRANKLIN SOMETIME.
COME ON. YEAH, HE'S HE WAS ONE

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OF YOU KNOW, HE WAS TALKING
ABOUT FASTING FOR A REALLY,

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REALLY LONG TIME. VLAD SAVCHUK
HE TALKS ABOUT FASTING A LOT.

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SO THERE IS SUCH AN ANOINTING
AND POWER AND GRACE THAT COMES

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WITH FASTING, AND IT'S SO
IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, THE OTHER

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THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH,

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IT'S A RELATIONSHIP, IT'S NOT
RELIGION, BUT IT'S LIKE IF YOU

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CARRIED THAT KIND OF ENERGY
INTO AN ACTUAL RELATIONSHIP,

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LIKE, WE'RE BOTH MARRIED, RIGHT?
IF WE TREATED OUR SPOUSE THAT

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WAY LIKE, OH, I CAN DO WHATEVER
I WANT, YOU WOULD NEVER TREAT

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ANYONE THAT WAY. IF YOU LOVED
THEM, YOU WOULD TAKE THE MOST

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CARE IN THAT RELATIONSHIP. I
THINK ABOUT MY HUSBAND. I THINK

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ABOUT MY CHILDREN. I WOULD. YOU
NEVER HAVE A FLIPPANT ATTITUDE.

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YOU'RE FINE. IT'S GONNA BE NO,
NO. AND SO IT'S LIKE, WHY WOULD

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YOU APPLY THAT LOGIC TO YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS, WHICH

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IS YOUR MOST IMPORTANT
RELATIONSHIP? IT'S NOT JUST

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ABOUT. AND I REMEMBER I HEARD
THIS REALLY GREAT SERMON, AND I

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REMEMBER HE SAID, YOU HAVE TO
TAKE A SHIFT AS A BELIEVER. A

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LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GET SAVED,
WE LOVE GOD FOR OUR OWN SAKES,

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LIKE, SAVE ME, FORGIVE ME FOR
MY SINS AND ALL THAT'S VALID.

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BUT HE SAYS, YOU HAVE TO SHIFT
INTO LOVING CHRIST FOR HIS SAKE,

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AND THAT IS, WILL YOU SUFFER
FOR THE SAKE OF THE GOSPEL?

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THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL. YEAH. AND
SO THERE HAS TO BE THAT SHIFT.

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WILL YOU OBEY? WILL YOU
SACRIFICE? YOU KNOW, AND THIS

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IS ALL COMMON THEMES THAT WE
SEE IN SCRIPTURE AND EVEN JUST

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THE OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, JUST
CONTEMPLATING ON THE SUFFERING

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OF JESUS AND HOW IT SAYS IN
ISAIAH THAT HE WAS A MAN OF

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SORROWS, SORROWS, ACQUAINTED
WITH GRIEF. AND I WAS LIKE, I

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DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH HE
SUFFERED, HOW MUCH HE SUFFERED.

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LIKE WE FOCUS ON LIKE THE CROSS.
AND OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY WE

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SHOULD FOCUS ON THE CROSS. BUT
I'M SAYING NOT JUST LIKE THE

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PHYSICAL SUFFERING, BUT THE
EMOTIONAL SUFFERING, THE MENTAL

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SUFFERING. IT'S LIKE I NEVER
REALLY CONTEMPLATED HOW MUCH HE

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SUFFERED FOR US FOR OUR SAKES.
AND HE'S CALLING US, LIKE IT

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SAYS IN PHILIPPIANS, INTO THE
FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERINGS.

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>> YEAH, YOU THINK ABOUT CHRIST.
I MEAN, WE WE THINK ABOUT, OF

00:10:24.033 --> 00:10:26.733
COURSE, WE JUST THE WHEN WE
THINK ABOUT CHRIST SUFFERING,

00:10:26.833 --> 00:10:29.033
WE GO TO THE CRUCIFIXION, WHICH
RIGHTFULLY SO. I MEAN, LIKE YOU.

00:10:29.133 --> 00:10:32.733
PINNACLE OF PINNACLE OF OUR
FAITH AND THE PINNACLE OF HUMAN

00:10:32.833 --> 00:10:37.900
SUFFERING. YEAH. IT'S TRUE, BUT
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT ON A

00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.767
MORE MINUTE LEVEL, LIKE THERE
IS NOT ONE LEVEL OR ONE THING

00:10:40.867 --> 00:10:43.733
YOU CAN WALK THROUGH ON PLANET
EARTH THAT CHRIST IS NOT

00:10:43.833 --> 00:10:45.866
ALREADY WALKED THROUGH. I MEAN,
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF

00:10:45.966 --> 00:10:47.933
THE BIGGEST PAIN POINTS I'M
SEEING FOR PEOPLE IS THIS

00:10:48.033 --> 00:10:50.733
INNATE FEELING THAT THEY ARE
MISUNDERSTOOD. JUST

00:10:50.833 --> 00:10:53.799
MISUNDERSTOOD. PEOPLE JUST
DON'T GET ME. THEY DON'T

00:10:53.899 --> 00:10:57.867
UNDERSTAND ME. YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT BEING MISUNDERSTOOD?

00:10:57.967 --> 00:10:58.800
THERE IS NO ONE WHO HAS BEEN
MORE MISUNDERSTOOD THAN CHRIST

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JESUS.
>> THAT'S SO TRUE.

00:11:02.933 --> 00:11:08.033
>> THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD MAN
IN HUMAN HISTORY, THE SACRIFICE,

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THE PROPITIATION FOR YOUR SINS.
YET YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO

00:11:12.933 --> 00:11:16.833
REJECT HIM. TALK ABOUT A
MISUNDERSTANDING HERE. TALK

00:11:16.933 --> 00:11:20.066
ABOUT ACTING LIKE HE'S NOT
WORTHY OF YOUR LITTLE 80 YEARS

00:11:20.166 --> 00:11:23.800
YOU'VE BEEN GIFTED ON THIS
PLANET, IF THAT. LIKE YOU WANT

00:11:23.900 --> 00:11:25.833
TO TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO'S
BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD. YOU ARE. WE

00:11:25.933 --> 00:11:27.900
ARE FOLLOWING THE MOST
MISUNDERSTOOD MAN.

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>> WHO HAS MISUNDERSTOOD.
>> STILL TO THIS DAY.

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>> AND STILL BEING. WHAT'S THE
WORD? HE'S BEING. PEOPLE TWIST.

00:11:36.100 --> 00:11:38.800
>> MISREPRESENTED, MISS.
>> YEAH. THEY MISREPRESENT HIM

00:11:38.900 --> 00:11:41.100
TO FIT THEIR OWN PERSONAL
AGENDAS. HE'S THE MOST

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MISREPRESENTED PERSON BECAUSE,
I MEAN, EVEN OTHER FAITHS ARE

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LIKE, WE BELIEVE IN THIS KIND
OF VERSION OF JESUS.

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>> WELL, MY JESUS, YEAH, I'M
LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A

00:11:50.100 --> 00:11:52.966
JESUS. YEAH, I THOUGHT THE
SCRIPTURES HAD A JESUS, YOU

00:11:53.066 --> 00:11:56.000
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THE
JESUS OF THE SCRIPTURES. YEAH.

00:11:56.100 --> 00:11:58.966
IS THE JESUS I WORSHIP. YEAH.
PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE A JESUS IN

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THEIR OWN IMAGE AND TOTALLY.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, EVERYONE'S

00:12:01.333 --> 00:12:03.899
TRYING TO TWIST. IT'S CRAZY. SO
THERE'S A LOT OF

00:12:03.999 --> 00:12:05.899
MISREPRESENTATION. HE IS A HE
WAS THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD

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PERSON.
>> YEAH. AND I JUST THINK HE'S

00:12:08.167 --> 00:12:10.967
ACQUAINTED WITH THAT SUFFERING.
HE'S ACQUAINTED WITH BETRAYAL.

00:12:11.067 --> 00:12:12.500
I MEAN, TALK ABOUT BETRAYAL.
BETRAYAL, JUDAS. BUT LET'S GET

00:12:12.533 --> 00:12:15.733
EVEN DEEPER, PETER. YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE EVERY

00:12:15.833 --> 00:12:19.533
DISCIPLE RAN, IT WAS ONLY THE
APOSTLE JOHN WHO COULD BE FOUND

00:12:19.633 --> 00:12:21.700
AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS. MOST
SCHOLARS WOULD PUT JOHN AT

00:12:21.800 --> 00:12:24.733
MAYBE 14 YEARS OLD. SO, LIKE
LARRY.

00:12:24.833 --> 00:12:28.433
>> I ALWAYS FORGET HOW YOUNG
THEY ARE. THEY WERE SO YOUNG.

00:12:28.533 --> 00:12:31.600
>> ONLY PETER WOULD HAVE BEEN
PROBABLY OVER THE AGE OF 20,

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BECAUSE JESUS SAYS TO PETER, GO
TO THE FISH, GRAB THE COIN, PAY

00:12:34.766 --> 00:12:37.600
OUR TEMPLE TAX, WHICH WOULD
HAVE WHICH JUST IMPLIES THAT

00:12:37.700 --> 00:12:40.766
THE OTHER DISCIPLES WEREN'T OLD
ENOUGH TO BE REQUIRED A TEMPLE

00:12:40.866 --> 00:12:43.800
TAX OF. YEAH, SO IT WOULD JUST
BE JESUS AND PETER. THAT'S WHY

00:12:43.900 --> 00:12:44.833
WE GET THE IDEA THAT PETER'S
THE OLDEST.

00:12:44.933 --> 00:12:47.433
>> THEY JUST ALWAYS. DEBATE
THOSE GOSPELS.

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>> THEY'RE SO. MUCH OLDER.
THINK ABOUT THE LAST. THE

00:12:49.700 --> 00:12:52.733
PICTURE OF THE LAST SUPPER.
YEAH, THEY'RE ALL OLD MEN.

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>> YEAH. AND THEY'RE ALL WHITE.
>> NO. YEAH. FOR SURE. AND THAT

00:12:55.800 --> 00:12:58.633
JUST WASN'T THE CASE, YOU KNOW?
>> ANYWAYS. OKAY. SORRY. THAT

00:12:58.733 --> 00:13:02.567
WAS A FUN LITTLE LAUGH FOR ME.
OKAY, GOOD. SWITCHING BACK TO

00:13:02.667 --> 00:13:05.700
SO FASTING. SO WHERE DID THIS
CONVICTION IN THIS DESIRE TO

00:13:05.800 --> 00:13:09.533
SHARE AND TEACH FASTING TO THE
CHURCH. WHERE DID IT COME FROM?

00:13:09.633 --> 00:13:13.766
>> YEAH, IT WAS HONESTLY
BIRTHED NUMBER ONE OUT OF A, A

00:13:13.866 --> 00:13:17.533
PERSONAL REVELATION OF THE FACT
THAT FASTING, IT CHANGES YOUR

00:13:17.633 --> 00:13:20.600
WORLD LIKE IT CHANGES FIRST AND
FOREMOST BEFORE IT CHANGES

00:13:20.700 --> 00:13:24.600
ANYTHING EXTERNALLY. IT CHANGES
THINGS INTERNALLY. LIKE IT. IT

00:13:24.700 --> 00:13:27.566
MAKES ME GO TOE TO TOE WITH ME.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE,

00:13:27.666 --> 00:13:30.767
IT'S LIKE IT MAKES ME REALIZE
LIKE, YO, THESE ARE SOME PLACES

00:13:30.867 --> 00:13:34.500
I NEED TO INVITE THE SPIRIT OF
GOD TO COME AND HANDLE THIS

00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:36.700
BECAUSE LIKE I OUTSIDE OF HIM,
I CAN'T DO IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I

00:13:36.800 --> 00:13:39.600
KNOW, THE GREAT EIGHT
MEAN? I MEAN, ROMANS EIGHT, YOU

00:13:39.700 --> 00:13:42.633
THEOLOGIANS CALL IT. IT'S ALL
ABOUT NOT WALKING IN THE FLESH

00:13:42.733 --> 00:13:45.567
AND TRYING TO WALK IN THE
SPIRIT. AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE

00:13:45.667 --> 00:13:47.733
ITS HEAD. BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE
CAUSE OUR FLESH TO, LIKE, SHOW

00:13:47.833 --> 00:13:50.766
FLESH LIKES TO HIDE, AND
SOMETIMES THE FLESH. FLESH

00:13:50.866 --> 00:13:53.767
LIKES TO ACT AS THOUGH, LIKE,
OH, IT AIN'T THAT BAD. OH, THAT

00:13:53.867 --> 00:13:56.733
THING IS A COVERT OPERATIVE.
LIKE OF OF HELL ITSELF. NO, YOU

00:13:56.833 --> 00:14:00.899
DON'T WANT TO BE IN AGREEMENT
WITH YOUR FLESH. NO, BUT. ONE

00:14:00.999 --> 00:14:02.833
DEATH, RIGHT? BUT ONE OF THE
WAYS WE CAUSE IT TO REAR ITS

00:14:02.933 --> 00:14:05.667
HEAD IS BY STARVING IT, QUITE
LITERALLY, BY DEPRIVING

00:14:05.767 --> 00:14:08.900
OURSELVES OF FOOD, YOU WILL
CAUSE YOURSELF, YOUR FLESH TO

00:14:09.700 --> 00:14:12.700
FLARE UP. AND THAT'S WHENEVER
YOU GET TO ALLOW THE SPIRIT MAN

00:14:12.800 --> 00:14:15.733
TO JUMP IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT
AND SAY, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO

00:14:15.833 --> 00:14:18.833
LIVE BY BREAD ALONE, BUT I'M
GOING TO LIVE BY EVERY WORD

00:14:18.933 --> 00:14:21.933
THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF
GOD. WE GET TO BE CHRIST LIKE

00:14:22.666 --> 00:14:26.600
WHEN WE FAST. I MEAN, THAT'S
LITERALLY I'M BORROWING FROM

00:14:26.700 --> 00:14:29.733
JESUS IN MATTHEW FOUR WHERE HE
SAID THAT TO SATAN, BUT I JUST

00:14:29.833 --> 00:14:32.800
THINK IT CAUSES US TO IT CAUSES
THAT FLESHLY PART OF US TO REAR

00:14:32.900 --> 00:14:35.933
ITS HEAD. AND THEN WE GET TO,
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO BE

00:14:36.033 --> 00:14:39.666
LIKE, OH, YOU NEED TO CAST OUT
DEMONS. YOU CAST OUT DEMONS,

00:14:39.766 --> 00:14:42.666
BUT YOU CRUCIFY THE FLESH. YOU
CAN'T CAST YOUR FLESH OUT. YOU

00:14:42.766 --> 00:14:46.566
CAN'T HAVE SOMEBODY LAY THEIR
HANDS ON YOU AND SAY, FLESH BE

00:14:46.666 --> 00:14:49.800
GONE. YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING? YOU CRUCIFY THE FLESH.

00:14:49.900 --> 00:14:52.800
AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE DO
THAT IS THROUGH THE DISCIPLINE

00:14:52.900 --> 00:14:56.633
OF OF FASTING, SAYING NO. YOU
KNOW, I'M A BIG BELIEVER THAT

00:14:56.733 --> 00:14:59.667
IF YOU WILL BE GOOD AT SAYING
NO TO THINGS THAT AREN'T SIN

00:14:59.767 --> 00:15:02.899
BECAUSE YOU WANT GOD MORE, YOU
WILL BE GOOD AT SAYING NO TO

00:15:02.999 --> 00:15:06.733
THINGS THAT ARE SIN BECAUSE YOU
WANT GOD MORE. AND SO MANY

00:15:06.833 --> 00:15:10.767
PEOPLE STRUGGLE IN THIS PLACE
OF LIKE, LET'S BE HONEST,

00:15:10.867 --> 00:15:13.833
SEXUAL SIN BECAUSE THEY AREN'T,
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO

00:15:13.933 --> 00:15:16.666
SAY NO TO THEMSELVES. THEY
DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY NO TO A

00:15:16.766 --> 00:15:18.833
CRAVING.
>> IF THAT'S SUCH A GOOD POINT,

00:15:18.933 --> 00:15:22.733
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SO MANY
TIMES THAT THAT STARTS SO YOUNG

00:15:22.833 --> 00:15:26.666
IN PEOPLE AND THEN THEY DON'T
KNOW HOW TO BREAK OUT OF IT.

00:15:26.766 --> 00:15:29.733
>> YEAH. BIG TIME. AND YOU HAVE
TO I CALL IT THE IN THE, IN THE

00:15:29.833 --> 00:15:31.866
BOOK, I CALL IT THE NO MUSCLE.
NOBODY WANTS NO MUSCLE. BUT YOU

00:15:31.966 --> 00:15:34.967
HAVE A MUSCLE THAT'S CALLED THE
NO MUSCLE AND.

00:15:35.067 --> 00:15:38.667
>> A GOOD MUSCLE TO DEVELOP.
>> AND YOU GET GOOD AT BUILDING

00:15:38.767 --> 00:15:41.666
THAT NO MUSCLE THROUGH REPS.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS YOU GET THE

00:15:41.766 --> 00:15:44.733
REPS IS BY SAYING, NO, I DON'T
GET EVERYTHING I WANT. THAT'S

00:15:44.833 --> 00:15:48.667
THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE WE HAVE
RAISED RAGED AGAINST LEGALISM.

00:15:48.767 --> 00:15:51.633
AND AGAIN, I WANT TO ALWAYS SAY
I'M NOT HERE TO BE A LEGALIST.

00:15:51.733 --> 00:15:54.899
I'M NOT HERE TO PREACH LEGALISM,
BUT BECAUSE WE'VE WE'VE ACTED

00:15:54.999 --> 00:15:58.900
AS THOUGH LEGALISM IS THE
ULTIMATE EVIL, WE'VE NOW LEFT

00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:03.800
THE DOOR OPEN TO HEDONISM AND
HEDONISM IS THIS PHILOSOPHY

00:16:03.900 --> 00:16:08.767
THAT PLEASURE IS THE HIGHEST
GOAL? PLEASURE GIVING MY BODY

00:16:08.867 --> 00:16:11.800
WHAT MY BODY DESIRES RIGHT NOW,
IN THIS MOMENT? HOW MIGHT I DO

00:16:11.900 --> 00:16:15.100
THAT? WHO CAN I EXPLOIT IN
ORDER TO GET THAT PLEASURE?

00:16:15.833 --> 00:16:19.800
WHETHER IT'S A MALE OR A FEMALE?
NOW EVEN PEOPLE ARE LIKE, EVEN

00:16:19.900 --> 00:16:22.833
IF IT'S AN ANIMAL, IF I CAN GET
PLEASURE OUT OF IT, WELL, A

00:16:22.933 --> 00:16:26.000
HEDONISTIC LIFESTYLE WOULD SAY,
THEN GO FOR IT, SLUGGER. AND

00:16:26.100 --> 00:16:29.900
ONE OF THE WAYS WE MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE NOT GIVING INTO THE

00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.733
SIN OF HEDONISM IS BY SAYING,
YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT GOING TO

00:16:32.833 --> 00:16:35.766
LIVE FOR PLEASURE. I'M NOT
GOING TO LIVE FOR JUST LIKE

00:16:35.866 --> 00:16:40.733
WHAT MIGHT FEEL GOOD TO GIVE MY
ENDORPHINS AND MY EVEN MY

00:16:40.833 --> 00:16:43.733
STOMACH AND MY SEXUALITY, MY
CRAVINGS, MY, YOU KNOW,

00:16:43.833 --> 00:16:46.833
IMAGINATIONS. I'M NOT GOING TO
I'M NOT GOING TO SERVE THAT

00:16:46.933 --> 00:16:49.966
MASTER. JESUS SAYS NO ONE CAN
SERVE TWO MASTERS. HE WILL LOVE

00:16:50.066 --> 00:16:54.900
ONE AND HATE THE OTHER. YEAH,
AND WHEN WE SERVE PLEASURE, AND

00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:58.866
THERE'S AT THE LITERALLY PSALMS
SAYS, AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

00:16:58.966 --> 00:17:02.100
THERE ARE PLEASURES FOREVERMORE.
NOT JUST PLEASURES HERE AND NOW,

00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.999
NOT THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE
FEELS GOOD IN THE MOMENT. BUT

00:17:05.099 --> 00:17:08.833
THEN AS SOON AS IT'S OVER,
INSTANT REGRET COMES UPON YOU.

00:17:08.933 --> 00:17:12.933
HE SAYS. AT YOUR RIGHT HAND ARE
PLEASURES FOREVERMORE. WHICH TO

00:17:13.033 --> 00:17:16.300
ME I THINK IS IS A PICTURE OF
CHRIST, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHO WHO

00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:20.866
IS SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND OF
THE FATHER. YEAH, CHRIST.

00:17:20.966 --> 00:17:23.933
INTIMACY WITH HIM, UNION WITH
HIM, ONENESS WITH HIM,

00:17:24.033 --> 00:17:28.000
OBEDIENCE TO HIM. THAT'S OUR
PLEASURE FOREVERMORE. AND IT'S

00:17:28.100 --> 00:17:31.933
LEARNING HOW TO FIND PLEASURE
IN OBEDIENCE AND KNOWING THAT

00:17:32.033 --> 00:17:36.933
I'M IN THE WILL OF GOD. AND
EVEN RECOGNIZING FASTING IS ONE

00:17:37.033 --> 00:17:40.800
OF THE WAYS YOU COME TO KNOW
THE WILL OF GOD. I MEAN, ROMANS

00:17:40.900 --> 00:17:44.966
CHAPTER 12, VERSE ONE SAYS, I
BESEECH YOU, BROTHERS, IN VIEW

00:17:45.066 --> 00:17:49.033
OF GOD AND IN VIEW OF THE MERCY
OF GOD, TO OFFER YOUR BODIES AS

00:17:49.133 --> 00:17:51.933
A LIVING SACRIFICE, THEN IT
GOES ON TO VERSE TWO, WHICH

00:17:52.033 --> 00:17:54.800
GETS QUOTED ALL THE TIME. AND
DON'T BE CONFORMED TO THE

00:17:54.900 --> 00:17:58.800
PATTERNS OF THIS WORLD, BUT BE
TRANSFORMED BY THE RENEWING OF

00:17:58.900 --> 00:18:02.167
YOUR MIND. THEN YOU WILL KNOW
AND BE ABLE TO TEST AND APPROVE

00:18:02.267 --> 00:18:05.967
THE PERFECT, PLEASING WILL OF
GOD. HE SAYS, VERSE ONE AND

00:18:06.067 --> 00:18:08.099
VERSE TWO GO TOGETHER. IT'S
OFFER YOUR BODIES AS A LIVING

00:18:08.199 --> 00:18:10.200
SACRIFICE. THEN YOU WON'T BE
CONFORMED TO THE PATTERNS OF

00:18:10.300 --> 00:18:14.000
THIS WORLD. YOU'LL BE
TRANSFORMED BY THE RENEWING OF

00:18:14.100 --> 00:18:17.233
YOUR MIND. THEN THE WILL OF GOD
IS MADE KNOWN. ONE OF THE WAYS

00:18:17.333 --> 00:18:19.899
WE OFFER OUR BODIES AS A LIVING
SACRIFICE IS THROUGH IS THROUGH

00:18:19.999 --> 00:18:22.100
PRAYER AND FASTING.
>> YEAH. AND I THINK ALSO IT'S

00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.166
JUST LIKE REALLY IMPORTANT TO
POINT OUT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE,

00:18:25.266 --> 00:18:27.933
WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO BE
LEGALISTIC, BUT LEGALISTIC

00:18:28.033 --> 00:18:31.000
ISN'T ABOUT ACTIONS. LIKE WE
SAID. IT'S ABOUT IT'S HARD.

00:18:31.100 --> 00:18:34.033
YEAH, IT'S HARD. IT'S INTENTION.
IT FOR ME, THIS IS WHERE THIS

00:18:34.133 --> 00:18:37.033
IS WHAT THE LORD TAUGHT ME. HE
ACTUALLY TAUGHT ME THIS WHEN I

00:18:37.133 --> 00:18:39.866
WAS PREGNANT. I JUST HAD MY
DAUGHTER AND I ACTUALLY TALK

00:18:39.966 --> 00:18:43.866
ABOUT ALL THE TIME ON THIS
PODCAST BECAUSE HE SHOWED ME

00:18:43.966 --> 00:18:46.900
JEREMIAH 17 AND IT SAYS, CURSED
IS THE PERSON WHO TRUSTS IN MAN,

00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.033
AND THAT CAN EVEN BE YOURSELF
UNLESS IT IS THE PERSON YOU

00:18:50.133 --> 00:18:53.133
TRUST IN THE LORD. SO IT'S NOT
ABOUT ACTIONS, IT'S ABOUT ARE

00:18:53.233 --> 00:18:57.000
YOU SELF-SUFFICIENT? LIKE, OH,
I'M GOING TO READ MY BIBLE. I'M

00:18:57.100 --> 00:19:00.100
GOING TO DO IT ALL ON MY OWN.
ARE YOU ABIDING IN HIM? BUT IF

00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.100
YOU'RE ABIDING IN HIM, YOU'RE
GOING TO BE LIVING IN A LIFE OF

00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:06.133
COMMUNION WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE LED BY

00:19:06.233 --> 00:19:07.100
HIS SPIRIT DAILY, AND YOU'RE
GOING TO FILL YOUR LIFE WITH

00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:09.933
DISCIPLINES.
>> AMEN.

00:19:10.033 --> 00:19:10.967
>> BECAUSE I ACTUALLY READ IN
BIBLE SCHOOL THIS BOOK BY

00:19:11.067 --> 00:19:13.899
DALLAS WILLARD.
>> YEAH.

00:19:13.999 --> 00:19:16.133
>> GOOD STUFF. YEAH. AND SO HE
HAS THAT BOOK ON SPIRITUAL

00:19:16.233 --> 00:19:19.133
DISCIPLINES. AND I THOUGHT HE
ACTUALLY HE USES THIS ANALOGY

00:19:19.233 --> 00:19:22.166
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST
WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. HE SAYS

00:19:23.033 --> 00:19:24.233
SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES. AND HE
LISTS A LOT OF THEM. HE TALKS

00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.133
ABOUT STEWARDSHIP. HE TALKS
ABOUT FASTING. HE TALKS ABOUT

00:19:27.233 --> 00:19:30.900
PRAYER. HE TALKS ABOUT OTHER
ONES AS WELL. BUT HE SAYS THAT

00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:34.033
SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES ARE LIKE
A PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PLAYER

00:19:34.133 --> 00:19:39.000
PRACTICING. YOU HAVE TO
PRACTICE EVERY DAY, ALL THE

00:19:39.100 --> 00:19:42.933
TIME, HE SAYS. AND THEN IN THE
MOMENT, THAT'S WHEN THE HOME

00:19:43.033 --> 00:19:46.033
RUN COMES. THAT'S WHEN THE
GRAND SLAM COMES. BUT HE SAYS,

00:19:46.133 --> 00:19:48.166
THE WAY YOU'RE PREPARED FOR
THOSE BIG MOMENTS IN MINISTRY

00:19:48.266 --> 00:19:51.133
IS THROUGH DOING THESE
SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES EVERY

00:19:51.233 --> 00:19:52.066
SINGLE DAY. THAT'S WHAT GETS
YOU TO OPERATE ON THAT HIGHER

00:19:52.166 --> 00:19:55.033
LEVEL.
>> ABSOLUTELY.

00:19:55.133 --> 00:19:58.166
>> SO IT SHOULD BE A NORMAL
PART OF ALL OF OUR LIVES

00:19:58.266 --> 00:20:01.100
BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE CALLED.
ALL OF US ARE CALLED TO SPREAD

00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:03.933
THE KINGDOM OF GOD, RIGHT? NOT
JUST PEOPLE IN FULL TIME

00:20:04.033 --> 00:20:06.999
MINISTRY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER
WHATEVER, LIKE WHATEVER PLACE

00:20:07.099 --> 00:20:10.000
YOU'RE OCCUPYING FOR THE
KINGDOM. AND SO ALL OF US

00:20:10.100 --> 00:20:12.266
SHOULD BE OPERATING ON THIS
LEVEL. AND OF COURSE, IT TALKS

00:20:13.033 --> 00:20:15.966
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN EPHESIANS,
IT'S LIKE US COMING TO FULL

00:20:16.066 --> 00:20:18.933
MATURITY IN CHRIST. AND SO THIS
IS PART OF THAT. SO IT'S VERY

00:20:19.033 --> 00:20:21.933
IMPORTANT. AND LIKE YOU SAID,
AND I THINK JUST AS A PARENT,

00:20:22.033 --> 00:20:25.066
I'M THINKING ABOUT MYSELF AND
MY KIDS, EVEN AS I GET OLDER,

00:20:25.166 --> 00:20:28.000
AS AN ADULT, HOW IMPORTANT IT
IS TO LEARN TO SAY NO TO YOUR

00:20:28.100 --> 00:20:31.133
FLESH. YEAH. IN LIFE, TO BE
EVEN JUST SUCCESSFUL OR LIKE,

00:20:31.233 --> 00:20:34.133
YES, BETTER FOR YOUR KIDS OR IN
ANYTHING. LIKE IF YOU LIVE YOUR

00:20:34.233 --> 00:20:36.900
LIFE ACCORDING TO YOUR BELLY,
YOU'RE GOING TO BE MISERABLE

00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:40.100
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE
ANYTHING FRUITFUL OR PRODUCTIVE

00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:43.900
IN YOUR LIFE. SO YOU DON'T WANT
TO BE A SLAVE. LIKE IT SAYS IN

00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.266
GALATIANS, FOR CHRIST HAS SET
US FREE. SO NOW BE NO LONGER

00:20:47.366 --> 00:20:51.000
BOUND TO THE YOKE OF SLAVERY,
OF SIN. SO BASICALLY, IT'S LIKE

00:20:51.100 --> 00:20:55.000
YOU DON'T GET SAVED AND FREE IN
CHRIST TO GO BACK TO THIS. NO,

00:20:55.100 --> 00:20:57.866
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE NOW LIVING FOR
HIM. AND PAUL USES SOME STRONG

00:20:57.966 --> 00:21:00.266
IMAGERY. HE SAYS, I'M A BOND
SERVANT OF CHRIST. I'M A

00:21:00.366 --> 00:21:03.100
LABORER OF CHRIST. I'M A
PRISONER FOR THE LORD. AND SO

00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.333
PAUL KIND OF PAINTS THIS
PICTURE LIKE I'M LIVING FULLY

00:21:06.433 --> 00:21:09.266
FOR GOD AND I DON'T YOU EVEN
FEEL LIKE JUST FOLLOWING THE

00:21:09.366 --> 00:21:12.266
HOLY SPIRIT, LIKE THAT'S EVEN A
CONSTANT THING OF LEARNING TO

00:21:12.366 --> 00:21:16.000
SAY NO OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO
SOMETIMES IN THE MOMENT,

00:21:16.100 --> 00:21:19.167
BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL BE
LIKE, NO, GO OVER HERE AND DO

00:21:19.267 --> 00:21:22.067
THIS OR NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO
DO THIS. GO DO THIS INSTEAD.

00:21:22.167 --> 00:21:25.033
AND YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND
LIKE, FOLLOW HIS LEADING. IT'S

00:21:25.133 --> 00:21:27.033
NOT LIKE THAT FOR EVERY MOMENT
OF EVERY DAY. BUT THERE'LL BE

00:21:27.133 --> 00:21:29.300
MOMENTS WHERE HE DOES THAT WITH
ME.

00:21:29.400 --> 00:21:32.133
>> YEAH. BIG TIME.
>> AND IF I DON'T FOLLOW THAT,

00:21:32.233 --> 00:21:36.033
LIKE, SOMETIMES I'LL BE LIKE,
OH, THAT WASN'T THE LORD, YOU

00:21:36.133 --> 00:21:38.166
KNOW, AND I. AND THEN LATER ON
I WAS LIKE, THAT WAS HIM. AND I

00:21:38.266 --> 00:21:40.566
SHOULD HAVE LISTENED, YOU KNOW.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN,

00:21:40.666 --> 00:21:43.233
FOLLOWING, FOLLOWING THE
LEADING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS

00:21:43.333 --> 00:21:46.199
THE WAY YOU BUILD AN INCREDIBLE
LEGACY. YOU LEAVE AN IMPACT YOU

00:21:46.299 --> 00:21:49.000
HAVE. YOU KNOW, IT SAID IT
WAS SAID OF DAVID THAT HE

00:21:49.100 --> 00:21:51.066
FULFILLED THE WILL OF GOD
IN HIS GENERATION. HE

00:21:51.166 --> 00:21:53.967
FULFILLED HIS ASSIGNMENT IN
HIS GENERATION. YOU WANT TO

00:21:54.067 --> 00:21:56.033
KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT? YOU
DO IT BY FOLLOWING THE

00:21:56.133 --> 00:21:58.033
LEADING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
BUT THE LAST THING

00:21:58.133 --> 00:22:01.233
FOLLOWING THE LEADING OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IS

00:22:01.333 --> 00:22:02.433
COMFORTABLE. AND THAT IS
WHY THE HOLY. THAT'S WHY

00:22:02.533 --> 00:22:04.433
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS CALLED
THE COMFORTER. YEAH,

00:22:04.533 --> 00:22:06.300
BECAUSE THE COMFORTER WILL
LEAD YOU TO UNCOMFORTABLE

00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:09.233
PLACES. THAT'S WHY YOU NEED
A COMFORTER.

00:22:09.333 --> 00:22:11.666
>> THAT'S SUCH A GOOD WORD.
>> YOU NEED THE COMFORTER

00:22:11.766 --> 00:22:14.300
BECAUSE HE IS. IT'S LIKE,
YO, IT'S WRITTEN. IT'S LIKE

00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.200
IT KIND OF SELF EXPLAINED.
YOU'RE GONNA NEED ME.

00:22:17.300 --> 00:22:19.433
YOU'RE GONNA NEED A
COMFORTER WHERE I WILL LEAD

00:22:19.533 --> 00:22:22.366
YOU BECAUSE I WILL LEAD YOU
TO UNCOMFORTABLE PLACES.

00:22:23.166 --> 00:22:26.266
THINK OF JESUS, LED BY THE
SPIRIT, INTO THE WILDERNESS

00:22:26.366 --> 00:22:28.266
TO BE TEMPTED BY THE DEVIL.
THAT'S THE WAY THE TEXT

00:22:28.366 --> 00:22:31.567
READS. TO BE TEMPTED BY THE
DEVIL.

00:22:31.667 --> 00:22:33.200
>> AND THE HOLY SPIRIT LED HIM
OUT THERE PRETTY LIKE

00:22:33.300 --> 00:22:36.233
IMMEDIATELY.
>> YEAH, IMMEDIATELY. HE WAS

00:22:36.333 --> 00:22:40.066
DRIVEN, YOU KNOW, TO THOSE
PLACES, WATER, YOU KNOW, ALL

00:22:40.166 --> 00:22:43.333
THOSE ALL THOSE THINGS. SO IT'S
JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU

00:22:43.433 --> 00:22:46.099
KNOW, AND THERE'S NOT A SINGLE
ONE OF US. AND I KNOW, LIKE,

00:22:46.199 --> 00:22:49.233
SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE THAT
WE'RE USING IS VERY STRONG AND

00:22:49.333 --> 00:22:52.300
EMPHATIC. AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S
TRUTH. BUT I NEVER WANT IT TO

00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.433
ACT LIKE I'M BAT A THOUSAND AT
THIS. I NEVER WANT TO ACT LIKE,

00:22:55.533 --> 00:22:59.533
YO, I'M JUST THE EXPERT HERE. I
JUST DO THIS PERFECTLY. Y'ALL

00:22:59.633 --> 00:23:02.867
GET ON MY LEVEL. THAT IS NEVER
HOW I WANT TO COME ACROSS. EVEN

00:23:02.967 --> 00:23:06.366
THOUGH I WANT TO. I WANT TO,
LIKE, SHARE THIS WITH THE

00:23:06.466 --> 00:23:10.233
URGENCY. AND I THINK THAT THE
EMPHASIS IT DESERVES. BUT WE'RE

00:23:10.333 --> 00:23:13.233
ALL STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THIS
THING OUT. BUT THE POINT IS

00:23:13.333 --> 00:23:16.300
THAT EVEN THOUGH WE STUMBLE, WE
ARE STUMBLING FORWARD. I'M

00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.366
TRYING TO DO BETTER. THERE'S
THERE ARE TIMES ALL THE TIME I

00:23:19.466 --> 00:23:23.233
MISS THE LEADING OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT, OR JUST STRAIGHT UP

00:23:23.333 --> 00:23:26.333
IGNORE THE LEADING OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT STILL TO THIS DAY. AND

00:23:26.433 --> 00:23:30.166
THAT'S WHEN I HAVE TO JUST SAY,
LORD, FORGIVE ME. LIKE LORD.

00:23:30.266 --> 00:23:33.233
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DAY I WAS
WALKING AND I. I FELT THE LORD

00:23:33.333 --> 00:23:38.266
TELLING ME TO STOP AND TALK TO
SOMEBODY. AND I MOVED ON AND I

00:23:38.366 --> 00:23:42.100
JUST DIDN'T DO IT. AND I SAID,
LORD, IF THAT WAS YOU, GIVE ME

00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.466
ANOTHER SHOT. I'M SORRY. GIVE
ME ANOTHER SHOT. IF I SEE THAT

00:23:45.566 --> 00:23:48.200
PERSON AGAIN, I WILL DO IT. AND
I SAW HIM AGAIN AND I DID IT.

00:23:48.300 --> 00:23:51.333
AND THERE ARE, THERE'S, THERE'S
THERE'S TIMES WHERE IT'S LIKE,

00:23:51.433 --> 00:23:55.100
LORD, I KNOW I MISSED IT. IF IF
AT ALL POSSIBLE, CAN I HAVE

00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:58.233
ANOTHER SHOT AT THAT SAME THING?
BUT IF NOT, WOULD YOU HELP ME

00:23:58.333 --> 00:24:02.233
TO HAVE THE FAITH TO SAY YES TO
YOU THE NEXT TIME AN

00:24:02.333 --> 00:24:06.500
OPPORTUNITY LIKE THAT ROLLS
AROUND? I HEARD A STORY A LONG

00:24:07.300 --> 00:24:11.400
TIME AGO OF THIS GUY WHO FELT
LIKE THE LORD GAVE HIM THIS

00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:15.200
IDEA TO SEND A MAILER, USE
MONEY GIVEN TO HIS MINISTRY

00:24:15.300 --> 00:24:20.200
PARTNERS, HAD GIVEN MONEY, AND
TO SEND A MAILER GOSPEL MAILER

00:24:20.300 --> 00:24:24.300
TO EVERY KNOWN ADDRESS ON EARTH,
EVERY KNOWN ADDRESS ON EARTH.

00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:28.200
GOD GAVE HIM THIS IDEA AND HE
WAS LIKE, THANK YOU, LORD, THIS

00:24:28.300 --> 00:24:31.200
IS BRILLIANT. I CAN'T BELIEVE
LIKE YOU WOULD GIVE ME THIS.

00:24:31.300 --> 00:24:34.300
AND HE FELT LIKE THE HOLY
SPIRIT TOLD HIM, YOU'RE THE

00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.333
THIRD PERSON I'VE ASKED TO DO
THIS. THE OTHER PEOPLE JUST

00:24:37.433 --> 00:24:41.233
DIDN'T DO IT. SO NOW I'M
HAVING TO TAP YOU ON THE

00:24:41.333 --> 00:24:44.299
SHOULDER. I DON'T WANT THE
LORD TO TAP SOMEBODY ELSE

00:24:44.399 --> 00:24:47.266
ON THE SHOULDER, BECAUSE
KEENAN CLARK WOULD NOT DO

00:24:47.366 --> 00:24:49.367
WHAT HE ASKED ME TO DO. I
DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE

00:24:49.467 --> 00:24:52.333
RUNNING MY VICTORY LAP IN
HEAVEN. I DON'T WANT

00:24:52.433 --> 00:24:54.233
ANYBODY ELSE GETTING THE
JEWEL THAT BELONGED TO MY

00:24:54.333 --> 00:24:57.199
CROWN. THAT ULTIMATELY I
WILL TAKE THAT CROWN AND

00:24:57.299 --> 00:24:59.233
THROW IT AT THE FEET OF
JESUS. BUT I DON'T WANT

00:24:59.333 --> 00:25:02.300
ANYONE ELSE THROWING MORE
JEWELS AT JESUS THAN ME.

00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.400
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE
THE ONES THAT I'M SUPPOSED

00:25:05.500 --> 00:25:08.533
TO THROW AT HIM. I WANT TO
BE ABLE TO THROW AT HIM.

00:25:08.633 --> 00:25:10.633
AND WE DO THAT WHEN WE STAY.
SUBMITTED, YIELDED GET OUT

00:25:10.733 --> 00:25:13.333
OF OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE

00:25:13.433 --> 00:25:16.266
EVERYONE'S IN THEIR OWN
LITTLE SIMULATION. I'M IN

00:25:16.366 --> 00:25:19.400
AIRPORTS ALMOST EVERY DAY
OF MY LIFE, AND IF YOU JUST

00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:21.633
SIT THERE, IF I GET OFF MY
PHONE AND I SIT THERE AND I

00:25:21.733 --> 00:25:25.333
WATCH, IT'S ALMOST LIKE
EVERYBODY'S IN THEIR OWN

00:25:25.433 --> 00:25:28.333
WORLD, LIKE WE'RE ALL HERE, BUT
WE'RE NOT ALL HERE, AND NO

00:25:28.433 --> 00:25:31.267
ONE'S EVEN, LIKE LOOKING AT
ANYONE, YOU KNOW? NO ONE'S. NO

00:25:31.367 --> 00:25:34.266
ONE'S RECOGNIZING IT. AND IF
YOU DO, YOU'RE YOU'RE WEIRD. IF

00:25:34.366 --> 00:25:37.267
YOU DO, LIKE, ACKNOWLEDGE
SOMEONE'S EXISTENCE, IT'S LIKE,

00:25:37.367 --> 00:25:40.267
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? YEAH.
WHY ARE YOU SPEAKING TO ME? WHY

00:25:40.367 --> 00:25:42.433
ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE'RE JUST

00:25:42.533 --> 00:25:45.433
ALL IN OUR OWN LITTLE
SIMULATION, AND IT'S LIKE, YO,

00:25:45.533 --> 00:25:48.433
IF YOU WILL COME OUT OF YOUR
OWN LITTLE WORLD, YOUR OWN

00:25:48.533 --> 00:25:51.233
LITTLE SIMULATION, GOD CAN THEN
USE YOU. AND I'M SPEAKING AS

00:25:51.333 --> 00:25:53.599
I'M SPEAKING OUT OF SOMETHING
GOD IS CHALLENGING ME WITH

00:25:53.699 --> 00:25:56.399
SOMETHING I'VE MASTERED. THIS
RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT

00:25:56.499 --> 00:25:57.533
IS SOMETHING I AM TRYING TO
YIELD MORE AND MORE TO EVERY

00:25:57.633 --> 00:25:58.499
DAY.
>> HIS LEADING.

00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:02.600
>> YES.
>> YEAH.

00:26:02.700 --> 00:26:05.533
>> I MEAN, IN THE IN THE
MUNDANE, YOU KNOW, THE MUNDANE.

00:26:05.633 --> 00:26:08.533
MONDAY WHEN NO ONE'S EXPECTING
KEENAN TO MINISTER, NO ONE'S

00:26:08.633 --> 00:26:11.433
EXPECTING A WORD. IT WOULDN'T
BE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE I'M

00:26:11.533 --> 00:26:13.499
GOING TO GET A. WOW. I
CAN'T BELIEVE HOW YOU

00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.433
EXECUTED THAT TEXT. I'VE
NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THAT

00:26:15.533 --> 00:26:17.433
WAY. NEVER MADE THE
CORRELATION AND THE

00:26:17.533 --> 00:26:20.433
CONNECTION BETWEEN THOSE
VERSES. NO ONE'S GOING TO

00:26:20.533 --> 00:26:23.366
GIVE A DARN, YOU KNOW WHAT
I MEAN? BUT THE LORD IS

00:26:23.466 --> 00:26:25.500
SAYING NO. STEP OUT, BE
BOLD. OFF CAMERA. YOU AND I

00:26:25.600 --> 00:26:29.333
WERE TALKING ABOUT WE ENJOY
WATCHING STREET PREACHERS. YEAH,

00:26:29.433 --> 00:26:32.500
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DO LIKE
I'M NOT GONNA LIE. I DO FEEL

00:26:32.600 --> 00:26:35.500
LIKE THIS. LIKE I FEEL LIKE THE
LORD'S KIND OF POKING ME, LIKE,

00:26:35.600 --> 00:26:39.367
YO, LIKE, MAYBE YOU NEED TO GO
AND, LIKE, DO SOME OF THAT.

00:26:39.467 --> 00:26:42.500
>> DO IT. AND NOW WE CAN HAVE A
RECORDED THING THAT WE. YOU

00:26:42.600 --> 00:26:44.633
HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
>> I DO. COME ON. I DO FEEL

00:26:44.733 --> 00:26:48.333
LIKE THE LORD HAS CHALLENGED ME
BECAUSE LIKE, I REMEMBER LIKE

00:26:48.433 --> 00:26:51.366
WHEN I WAS A STUDENT AT CHRIST
FOR THE NATIONS, WE DID SEVERAL

00:26:51.466 --> 00:26:54.367
OUTREACHES TO MARDI GRAS, WHERE
WE WENT TO THIS WAS LIKE OVER

00:26:54.467 --> 00:26:57.299
TEN YEARS AGO. WE WENT TO MARDI
GRAS. WE JUST WOULD TAKE THE

00:26:57.399 --> 00:26:59.500
STREETS AND JUST LIKE, STOP
PEOPLE AND TALK TO THEM AND

00:26:59.600 --> 00:27:01.667
LIKE, TRY TO SHARE THE LOVE OF
CHRIST WITH THEM.

00:27:01.767 --> 00:27:03.766
>> AND WHAT'S YOUR
HESITATION? IS IT LOGISTICS?

00:27:03.866 --> 00:27:06.599
IS IT PERSONAL?
>> I THINK LATELY IT'S JUST

00:27:06.699 --> 00:27:09.433
BEEN MORE LOGISTICS. IT'S
LIKE, MAN, THE SCHEDULE IS

00:27:09.533 --> 00:27:11.733
SO BUSY. AND THEN WHEN I'M
LIKE, WHEN I'M AT HOME, I

00:27:11.833 --> 00:27:14.599
WANT TO BE DAD AND HUSBAND
AND LIKE HAVE FAMILY TIME

00:27:14.699 --> 00:27:16.700
AND TRY TO HAVE A COMMUNITY,
YOU KNOW, AND LIKE ALL

00:27:16.800 --> 00:27:19.633
THOSE THINGS AND LIKE SOME
DISCIPLINES THAT LIKE, IT'S

00:27:19.733 --> 00:27:22.766
HARD TO KEEP ON THE ROAD,
THAT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN

00:27:23.566 --> 00:27:24.666
IT'S TIME TO GO ON THE ROAD
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND

00:27:24.766 --> 00:27:25.866
GO AND GO PREACH, WHICH I
DO FEEL LIKE I'M FULFILLING

00:27:25.966 --> 00:27:26.999
THE ASSIGNMENT THAT'S ON MY
LIFE IN THE SEASON. BUT I

00:27:27.099 --> 00:27:28.133
DO FEEL LIKE THERE'S THIS
PLACE THAT'S LIKE, MAN, I

00:27:28.233 --> 00:27:29.266
LOVE THAT ONE ON ONE
MINISTRY. AND I GET SO MUCH

00:27:29.366 --> 00:27:30.433
OF IT. LIKE, I, I'M A BIG
ALTAR CALL GUY. LIKE, YOU

00:27:30.533 --> 00:27:32.666
KNOW, THERE ARE SOME PLACES
I'VE GONE AND I'VE GIVEN

00:27:32.766 --> 00:27:35.566
ALTAR CALLS THAT I'M LIKE,
YO, I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVER

00:27:35.666 --> 00:27:38.499
HAD AN ALTAR CALL HERE, YOU
KNOW? I MEAN, IT'S NOT THEIR

00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:40.699
M.O. IT'S NOT THEIR M.O.
>> YEAH. AND THEN THEY DON'T

00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:44.633
KNOW WHAT TO DO.
>> YEAH. AND THEY'RE LIKE, YO.

00:27:44.733 --> 00:27:46.533
AND I'M LIKE, HEY, CAN WE GET
SOME ALTAR MINISTRY? LIKE SOME

00:27:46.633 --> 00:27:49.633
ALTAR WORKERS? THEY'RE LIKE,
WHAT ARE THOSE? YOU KNOW WHAT I

00:27:49.733 --> 00:27:52.500
MEAN? LIKE, NO ONE'S READY FOR
THAT THE OTHER DAY. YOU WANT TO

00:27:52.600 --> 00:27:54.833
TALK ABOUT CAUSING TROUBLE? THE
OTHER DAY, RUSSELL JOHNSON AND

00:27:54.933 --> 00:27:57.700
I WERE AT THIS CONFERENCE
PREACHING TOGETHER IN MISSOURI,

00:27:57.800 --> 00:27:59.433
WENT TO A NAZARENE CHURCH. BOTH
OF US GOT INVITED TO NAZARENE

00:27:59.533 --> 00:28:01.633
CHURCH. REVIVAL HIT THAT
NAZARENE CHURCH.

00:28:01.733 --> 00:28:03.833
>> THAT'S AWESOME.
>> PEOPLE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW

00:28:03.933 --> 00:28:06.800
HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT THIS,
BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.

00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:09.666
PEOPLE WERE FALLING OUT UNDER
THE POWER OF GOD. THE CURRENT

00:28:09.766 --> 00:28:12.633
PASTOR OF THAT NAZARENE CHURCH
AND THE FORMER PASTOR OF THAT

00:28:12.733 --> 00:28:15.733
NAZARENE CHURCH, BOTH FELL OUT
FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. YEAH.

00:28:15.833 --> 00:28:18.600
UNDER THE POWER OF GOD, WHICH,
I MEAN, WE COULD WE COULD WE

00:28:18.700 --> 00:28:21.667
COULD SWAP SCRIPTURE ON WHAT
PEOPLE THINK THAT THAT'S NOT,

00:28:21.767 --> 00:28:25.666
YOU KNOW, A GODLY RESPONSE. I
HAVE FELT THAT KIND OF GLORY

00:28:25.766 --> 00:28:29.533
HIT MY BODY. NOW, I DON'T GIVE
NO COURTESY DROPS. I DON'T I'M

00:28:29.633 --> 00:28:30.567
NOT GOING DOWN TO, LIKE, MAKE
SOME GUY FEEL LIKE A MAN OF GOD.

00:28:30.667 --> 00:28:32.766
>> NO.
>> BUT IF.

00:28:32.866 --> 00:28:35.600
>> THE LORD ONCE, I'VE DONE IT
ONCE.

00:28:35.700 --> 00:28:38.700
>> YEAH. IF THE LORD HITS ME.
JOHN THE REVELATOR SAYS, WHEN

00:28:38.800 --> 00:28:41.466
HE SAW CHRIST, HE FELL LIKE A
DEAD MAN. THAT'S THE LARRY WHAT

00:28:41.566 --> 00:28:43.600
REVELATION SAYS. AND SO IT'S
ONE OF THOSE THINGS, BUT

00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:45.666
LITERALLY THAT DOESN'T THAT
STUFF DOES NOT HAPPEN IN A

00:28:45.766 --> 00:28:47.833
NAZARENE CHURCH. BUT GOD
DECIDED TO VISIT THAT

00:28:47.933 --> 00:28:50.533
NAZARENE CHURCH. AND SO I'M
JUST THINKING, MAN, LIKE,

00:28:50.633 --> 00:28:51.800
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET
OUT OF OUR JUST OUR

00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:54.633
REGULARLY SCHEDULED
PROGRAMS? AND WE'RE LIKE,

00:28:54.733 --> 00:28:57.533
LORD, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO
MOVE, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE

00:28:57.633 --> 00:29:00.600
MY SERMON LAST MINUTE, YOU
WANT ME TO GO HIT THE

00:29:00.700 --> 00:29:03.666
STREETS. YOU WANT ME NOT TO.
JUST, LIKE, TRY TO GET TO

00:29:03.766 --> 00:29:05.699
MY GATE ON TIME, BUT, YOU
KNOW, TRY TO MINISTER TO

00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.566
THIS. THESE GUYS, YOU KNOW,
LIKE, WHAT IF WE WERE

00:29:07.666 --> 00:29:09.733
AVAILABLE?
>> THAT'S THE THING, THOUGH,

00:29:09.833 --> 00:29:12.600
WE NEED TO BE AVAILABLE.
AND I THINK SOMETIMES I

00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:16.500
HONESTLY FELT LIKE BECAUSE EVEN
THE OTHER DAY THIS LIKE AND A

00:29:16.600 --> 00:29:19.566
LOT OF TIMES GOD WILL HAVE ME
DO THINGS AND IT HAS NOTHING TO

00:29:19.666 --> 00:29:22.566
DO WITH LIKE LIKE HE HAS ME
TALK TO PEOPLE AND PRAY FOR

00:29:22.666 --> 00:29:25.766
PEOPLE. BUT A LOT OF TIMES
HE'LL TELL ME LIKE, DON'T GO

00:29:25.866 --> 00:29:29.500
HERE, YOU NEED TO STAY HERE AND
DO THIS. OR LIKE THE OTHER DAY,

00:29:29.600 --> 00:29:31.766
HE'S LIKE, YOU NEED TO GO PUT
THAT BACK. I KNOW IT SOUNDS

00:29:31.866 --> 00:29:34.666
SILLY, AND SOMETIMES I JUST
FEEL LIKE GOD IS MAKING SURE

00:29:34.766 --> 00:29:37.767
THAT I'M NOT LIKE IN THIS
MINDSET, BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY

00:29:37.867 --> 00:29:41.500
VERY EASY TO BE LIKE, OKAY, I'M
MY OWN, I'M MY OWN MASTER, AND

00:29:41.600 --> 00:29:45.466
I'M GOING TO DO THIS, THIS AND
THIS AND THIS. I THINK IT'S

00:29:45.566 --> 00:29:47.666
EASY. I THINK AS A MOM TO, LIKE,
I GOT TO GET THIS DONE AND THIS

00:29:47.766 --> 00:29:48.866
DONE AND WE GET SO CAUGHT UP IN
LIKE THE BUSYNESS AND THE DAY

00:29:48.966 --> 00:29:50.200
TO DAY. AND I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT AT ANY MOMENT,

00:29:50.300 --> 00:29:51.400
THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN DISRUPT MY
PLANS AND THAT I'M GOING TO BE

00:29:51.500 --> 00:29:52.733
OBEDIENT AND DO WHAT HE SAYS
AND THAT I STAY FLEXIBLE.

00:29:52.833 --> 00:29:56.500
>> YEAH.
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY THAT'S

00:29:56.600 --> 00:29:59.900
ACTUALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
LEGALISM. AND YOU HAVE LIKE

00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.633
TOTAL CHAOS OVER HERE. AND THEN
LEGALISM IS COMPLETE RIGIDNESS.

00:30:02.733 --> 00:30:06.100
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DEAL WITH
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE IS LIKE, THIS

00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.767
IS THE WAY WE ALWAYS DO THINGS.
BUT IT'S LIKE, RIGHT, YOU HAVE

00:30:08.867 --> 00:30:12.667
TO BE LIKE MALLEABLE IN YOUR
HANDS TO LIKE, AS HE SAYS, HE'S

00:30:12.767 --> 00:30:14.866
THE POTTER AND WE'RE THE CLAY.
WE HAVE TO LET HIM FORM US INTO

00:30:14.966 --> 00:30:17.767
WHAT HE WANTS FOR US.
>> THOUSAND PERCENT. I MEAN,

00:30:17.867 --> 00:30:18.999
THAT'S WHERE OUR LIFE IS LIVED,
I MEAN, AND THAT THAT'S THE

00:30:19.066 --> 00:30:21.866
TENSION. I WAS TALKING TO
SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY, YOU

00:30:21.966 --> 00:30:24.100
KNOW, THERE'S THAT ACTS TEN.
YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WHERE THE

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.167
HOLY SPIRIT IS POURED OUT ON
THE GENTILES. YEAH. WHERE

00:30:26.267 --> 00:30:29.966
CORNELIUS, THE FIRST GENTILE
CONVERT. YEAH. WHERE, YOU KNOW,

00:30:30.066 --> 00:30:33.033
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE IN ANY
WAY JEWISH. I'M NOT. OKAY. BUT

00:30:33.133 --> 00:30:36.967
YOU KNOW, WHERE MY PEOPLE, LIKE
THOSE OF US WHO WERE NOT, HAD

00:30:37.067 --> 00:30:38.933
NO BUSINESS STEPPING INTO
SALVATION? WELL, MAN, I'M

00:30:39.033 --> 00:30:41.033
GETTING TEARY EYED. WE'RE
INVITED IN.

00:30:41.133 --> 00:30:43.966
>> YEAH.
>> BY THE GRACE OF GOD. BUT

00:30:44.066 --> 00:30:47.100
THEN PETER SEES THIS SHEET
BEING LET DOWN WITH ALL THESE

00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.833
UNCLEAN ANIMALS IN IT, AND THE
SPIRIT SAYS TO HIM, RISE, PETER,

00:30:50.933 --> 00:30:54.100
KILL AND EAT. AND I WAS TALKING
TO SOMEBODY THE OTHER DAY. I'M

00:30:54.900 --> 00:30:57.899
LIKE, IF THE LORD SHOWED ME A
BUNCH OF STUFF I HAD ABSTAINED

00:30:57.999 --> 00:31:02.000
FROM MY WHOLE LIFE AND SAID, YO,
KEENAN, PARTAKE. I'D BE LIKE, I

00:31:02.100 --> 00:31:05.233
DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THAT.
YEAH, EVEN THOUGH THE LORD JUST

00:31:05.333 --> 00:31:08.100
TOLD ME TO, I KNOW IT'D BE LIKE,
BUT I JUST DON'T DO THAT, YOU

00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.966
KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND LIKE,
THAT'S THE TENSION. LIKE,

00:31:11.066 --> 00:31:13.300
THAT'S THE TENSION PETER WOULD
HAVE FELT IN THAT MOMENT. HE'S

00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.300
LIKE ALL THESE UNCLEAN ANIMALS.
LIKE, MY WHOLE LIFE, I'VE NEVER

00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:19.100
PARTAKEN OF ANY OF THAT STUFF.
AND THEN THE LORD SAYS WHAT

00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.100
I'VE CALLED CLEAN, DON'T CALL
UNCLEAN. AND IT'S IT'S ONE OF

00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.933
THOSE THINGS THAT, LIKE, MAN,
WHEN THE LORD DECIDES TO SPEAK.

00:31:25.033 --> 00:31:27.066
AND OF COURSE, I'M TALKING
ANYTHING HE SAYS TO YOU, IT

00:31:27.166 --> 00:31:30.066
BETTER BE BACKED UP BY
SCRIPTURE. YOU KNOW HE WILL

00:31:30.166 --> 00:31:33.100
NEVER VIOLATE HIS WORD. HE WILL
NEVER VIOLATE THOSE 66 BOOKS.

00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.066
YES, THAT'S I WANT TO MAKE THAT
CERTAIN. I WANT TO MAKE THAT

00:31:36.166 --> 00:31:38.933
CLEAR. ANYTHING YOU HEAR FROM
THE LORD, IT SHOULD BE ECHOED

00:31:39.033 --> 00:31:40.933
IN SCRIPTURE, AND ALSO BE ONE
OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOUR

00:31:41.033 --> 00:31:44.166
SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP, THE
AUTHORITY IN YOUR LIFE, WOULD

00:31:44.266 --> 00:31:47.933
SAY YES AND AMEN. THIS IS A
GOOD THING, BUT CAN YOU STAY

00:31:48.033 --> 00:31:52.066
MORE COMMITTED TO HIS TENDER
VOICE THAN YOU ARE TRADITION?

00:31:52.166 --> 00:31:55.933
AND THAT'S A VERY TOUGH THAT'S
A TENSION RIGHT THERE. IT'S A

00:31:56.033 --> 00:31:58.233
TENSION. WE WANT TO JUST GO ONE
WAY OR THE OTHER. IT'S LIKE NO

00:31:58.333 --> 00:32:00.499
TRADITION OR HANG ON TO THE
TRADITION. IT'S LIKE THERE'S

00:32:01.099 --> 00:32:04.166
SOME PLACES WHERE OUR
TRADITIONS ARE SERVING GOD'S

00:32:04.266 --> 00:32:08.033
PURPOSES. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
THEY DON'T ANYMORE? CAN WE

00:32:08.133 --> 00:32:12.033
STILL STAY SUBMITTED TO THE
LORD OR WE MAKE WILL WE MAKE A

00:32:12.133 --> 00:32:15.233
SACRED COW OUT OF THOSE PLACES?
>> EXACTLY. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S

00:32:15.333 --> 00:32:18.233
SUCH A GOOD WORD. AND SOMETIMES
PEOPLE CAN BE CRITICAL OF LIKE,

00:32:18.333 --> 00:32:21.033
THEY'RE DOING IT THIS WAY OVER
HERE AT THIS CHURCH. THEY'RE

00:32:21.133 --> 00:32:23.166
DOING THIS WAY. AND I'M LIKE,
IF IT'S BIBLICAL AND IT'S

00:32:23.266 --> 00:32:26.033
WITHIN THE WORD AND IT'S
MINISTERING TO PEOPLE. YEAH.

00:32:26.133 --> 00:32:29.033
WHO ARE WE TO LOOK DOWN ON
SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE IT'S

00:32:29.133 --> 00:32:31.233
DIFFERENT FROM OUR CHURCH? YEAH.
IF IT'S BIBLICAL, I'M LIKE, AND

00:32:31.333 --> 00:32:34.200
GOD IS MOVING. YEAH. THAT'S
IMPORTANT. WHAT I LOVE TOO,

00:32:34.300 --> 00:32:37.100
BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING, LIKE,
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.233
PEOPLE THINK ABOUT, LIKE BEING
SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT AND ALL

00:32:39.333 --> 00:32:42.200
THIS KIND OF STUFF. BUT
HONESTLY, WHEN YOU READ THE

00:32:42.300 --> 00:32:45.233
BIBLE, EVEN STUFF IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT AND LIKE, OF COURSE,

00:32:45.333 --> 00:32:48.133
LIKE THE CHURCH AND THE, YOU
KNOW, IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, EVEN

00:32:48.233 --> 00:32:51.000
THE CHURCH IN EPHESIANS, AND
YOU KNOW, THESE IN THE NEW

00:32:51.100 --> 00:32:53.233
TESTAMENT AND THE EPISTLES,
IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU REALLY JUST

00:32:53.333 --> 00:32:56.200
READ SCRIPTURE AND YOU WITNESS
EVERYTHING THAT GOD WAS DOING.

00:32:56.300 --> 00:32:59.100
IT'S LIKE, WHY WOULD WE THINK
THAT THIS IS EVEN WEIRD? IT'S

00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.233
JUST WEIRD TO PEOPLE BECAUSE
SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T GROW UP WITH

00:33:02.333 --> 00:33:05.133
IT. ONCE YOU KIND OF GO BACK
INTO LIKE TRADITION. YEAH, BUT

00:33:05.233 --> 00:33:08.100
JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER SEEN
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.433
REAL. AND GOD'S NOT DOING IT.
>> AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE

00:33:10.533 --> 00:33:13.267
REAL QUICK, RIGHT OFF THE BAT,
THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THESE

00:33:14.167 --> 00:33:15.433
THINGS HAVE BEEN ABUSED. THERE
ARE PLACES. PEOPLE GET YEAH,

00:33:15.533 --> 00:33:18.266
THERE ARE PLACES AND I MEAN
LEGITIMATELY ABUSED. YEAH. LIKE

00:33:18.366 --> 00:33:21.266
SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN
EXPLOITED TO TRY TO MAKE A

00:33:21.366 --> 00:33:27.100
MINISTRY AND GET MORE MINISTRY
PARTNERS AND LINE MY POCKETS.

00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.099
BUT THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW,
CORRUPT MISUSE DOES NOT NEGATE

00:33:30.199 --> 00:33:32.266
THE PROPER USE OF THESE
GIFTS, OF THESE GENUINE

00:33:32.366 --> 00:33:36.200
EXPERIENCES. AND JUST
BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS BEEN

00:33:36.300 --> 00:33:39.167
FAKED DOESN'T MEAN THAT
EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT

00:33:39.267 --> 00:33:42.133
THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
YEAH. AND SO, YEAH, I THINK

00:33:42.233 --> 00:33:44.366
WE GOT TO CALL OUT THE FAKE
STUFF AND SAY, HEY, WE

00:33:44.466 --> 00:33:48.133
DON'T WANT ANY PART OF THAT
FOOLISHNESS. YEAH, BUT THE

00:33:48.233 --> 00:33:51.266
THE GENUINE MOVE OF GOD, I
MEAN, I, I DON'T WANT TO ON

00:33:51.366 --> 00:33:55.200
THE SIDE OR EVEN RUN THE RISK
OF BLASPHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT

00:33:55.300 --> 00:33:58.267
WHERE I SAY SOMETHING THAT IS
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT THE

00:33:58.367 --> 00:34:01.366
HOLY SPIRIT. AND ALL THIS STUFF
I DON'T EVEN WANT I DON'T WANT

00:34:01.466 --> 00:34:04.200
TO GRIEVE THE SPIRIT IN THAT
MANNER. SO I WOULD JUST SAY,

00:34:04.300 --> 00:34:07.333
MAN LIKE, UNLESS SOMETHING IS
LIKE, YO, THIS IS EXTREMELY

00:34:07.433 --> 00:34:08.266
UNBIBLICAL, THIS WOULD NEVER
HAPPEN. IT'S LIKE, MAN, BEFORE

00:34:08.366 --> 00:34:10.600
PHILIP GOT TELEPORTED.
>> I KNOW.

00:34:10.700 --> 00:34:13.266
>> NO ONE WOULD SAY GOD WOULD
TELEPORT SOMEONE.

00:34:13.366 --> 00:34:15.399
>> YEAH.
>> THEN GOD'S LIKE, YO, MY BOY

00:34:15.499 --> 00:34:18.466
PHILIP, I'M TELEPORTING YOU.
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

00:34:18.566 --> 00:34:21.466
LIKE, AND IT'S LIKE, OH DANG, I
GUESS GOD COULD TELEPORT

00:34:21.566 --> 00:34:24.366
SOMEBODY I KNOW. AND IT'S LIKE
THE ONE TIME IN SCRIPTURE, LIKE,

00:34:24.466 --> 00:34:27.366
WHERE WE COULD SEE THAT, LIKE,
HAPPEN, BUT IT'S LIKE GOD JUST

00:34:27.466 --> 00:34:30.333
KIND OF LIKE ALL THESE YEARS,
YOU WOULD SAY GOD WOULD NEVER

00:34:30.433 --> 00:34:33.333
DO THAT. GOD WOULD NEVER DO
THAT. GOD WOULD NEVER DO THAT.

00:34:33.433 --> 00:34:37.267
WE'VE NEVER SEEN GOD DO IT.
GOD'S LIKE, BAM, I'M DOING IT.

00:34:37.367 --> 00:34:41.166
YEAH. AND IT'S LIKE, WHO ARE WE
TO PUT GOD IN A BOX? GOD LIVED

00:34:41.266 --> 00:34:44.267
IN A BOX UNDER THE OLD COVENANT,
AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO BACK

00:34:44.367 --> 00:34:48.200
IN. AND WE ARE SO DESPERATE TO
TRY TO GET HIM TO GO BACK IN

00:34:48.300 --> 00:34:52.133
THAT BOX. AND ONE OF THE WAYS
WE HELP HIM COME OUT OF THAT

00:34:52.233 --> 00:34:55.133
BOX, AND WE ALLOW HIM TO NOT BE
IN A BOX, IS WHEN WE SUBMIT TO

00:34:55.233 --> 00:34:57.400
THINGS LIKE PRAYER, FASTING.
AND I WILL SAY THIS ON THE ON

00:34:57.500 --> 00:35:00.400
ON THE SIDE OF FASTING. FASTING
WITHOUT PRAYER IS STARVATION.

00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:03.300
GOD IS NOT CALLING YOU TO
STARVATION. GOD IS NOT CALLING

00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:05.300
YOU TO JUST BEING MALNOURISHED.
THE PLACE IT IS ONLY BECOMES.

00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.300
IT ONLY BECOMES SPIRITUALLY
POWERFUL WHEN THE PRAYER

00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.399
COMPONENT KICKS IN. NOW, PRAYER
SOMETIMES CALLS FOR FASTING.

00:35:11.499 --> 00:35:15.433
FASTING ALWAYS CALLS FOR PRAYER.
>> THERE SHOULD.

00:35:15.533 --> 00:35:19.599
>> ALWAYS BE PRAYER ACCOMPANIED
WITH NOT JUST, OH, I DIDN'T EAT

00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:23.300
TODAY, BUT DID YOU? DID YOU
TAKE THE TIME YOU WOULD HAVE

00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.266
EATEN TO COMMUNE WITH THE LORD
TO PRESS INTO THE THINGS OF GOD?

00:35:26.366 --> 00:35:29.333
WELL, NO. OKAY, WELL THEN
YOU'RE JUST STARVING YOURSELF,

00:35:29.433 --> 00:35:31.333
YOU KNOW. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
NO. IT'S ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE

00:35:31.433 --> 00:35:34.300
THAT DELINEATION.
>> NO, YOU NEED TO. I'M

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.466
ACTUALLY LIKE, AS YOU'RE SAYING
THIS, I'M LIKE, OKAY, JUST IF

00:35:36.566 --> 00:35:39.366
SOMEONE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT
FASTING, WE'RE THINKING LIKE

00:35:39.466 --> 00:35:41.267
SOMEONE WHO'S JUST NEVER DONE
IT BEFORE, OR MAYBE A BABY

00:35:41.367 --> 00:35:43.433
CHRISTIAN LIKE FASTING GUIDE
FOR DUMMIES. OKAY.

00:35:43.533 --> 00:35:46.333
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
>> WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT

00:35:46.433 --> 00:35:49.300
PERSON? LIKE, IF YOU'RE SITTING
ACROSS FROM THEM, YOU'RE LIKE,

00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.333
OKAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO
DO. HERE ARE MY POINTERS. THIS

00:35:52.433 --> 00:35:55.333
IS HOW YOU NEED TO.
>> HANDLE IT. YEAH. AND A LOT

00:35:55.433 --> 00:35:57.466
OF THIS I TALK ABOUT IN THE
BOOK, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE

00:35:57.566 --> 00:36:01.366
CHAPTER IN THE BOOK CALLED
MANIPULATING GOD. AND BECAUSE I

00:36:01.466 --> 00:36:03.333
THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IF AND
THEY DO IT MAYBE EVEN

00:36:03.433 --> 00:36:06.533
ACCIDENTALLY, BUT THEY CAN
TREAT FASTING AS THOUGH IT'S

00:36:06.633 --> 00:36:09.400
THIS WAY TO GET GOD ON MY SIDE,
LIKE, I'M GONNA I'M GONNA FAST

00:36:09.500 --> 00:36:11.366
UNTIL GOD DOES WHAT I WANT.
AND FASTING IS NOT THE

00:36:11.466 --> 00:36:13.499
SPIRITUAL EQUIVALENT OF
GOING ON HUNGER STRIKE.

00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.333
IT'S NOT LIKE I'M JUST
GONNA. OR, LIKE, HOLDING

00:36:16.433 --> 00:36:18.499
YOUR BREATH, YOU KNOW? LIKE,
I DON'T THINK KIDS DO THIS

00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.666
ANYMORE, BUT, LIKE, OH.
>> MY BREATH. AND TELL THEM

00:36:20.766 --> 00:36:22.533
DADDY DOES WHAT I WANT.
HE'S LIKE, OKAY, OKAY.

00:36:22.633 --> 00:36:25.333
BREATHE, BREATHE.
>> YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE,

00:36:25.433 --> 00:36:27.599
IT'S NOT THAT. LIKE, IT'S
NOT LIKE, WELL, I'M JUST

00:36:27.699 --> 00:36:30.299
NOT GONNA EAT UNTIL GOD
DOES IT MY WAY. NO, FASTING

00:36:30.399 --> 00:36:32.499
DOESN'T CHANGE GOD'S PLAN.
IT REVEALS GOD'S PLAN. IT

00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.399
DOESN'T CHANGE GOD'S HEART.
IT GETS US IN ALIGNMENT

00:36:34.499 --> 00:36:37.367
WITH GOD'S HEART. AND
THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN

00:36:37.467 --> 00:36:39.566
HAPPEN IN MY OWN LIFE. LIKE,
THE MORE I HAVE FASTED, I

00:36:39.666 --> 00:36:42.333
DON'T. I DON'T CRAVE THE
THINGS OF THIS WORLD I'M

00:36:42.433 --> 00:36:46.299
NOT CRAVING. IN FACT, IT
CRUCIFIES THE CRAVINGS I

00:36:46.399 --> 00:36:51.400
USED TO HAVE AND IT GIVES
ME A CRAVING FOR GOD, FOR THE

00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:55.500
THINGS THAT ARE ARE ABOVE, FOR
ETERNAL THINGS. IT GETS ME OKAY

00:36:55.600 --> 00:36:58.633
WITH THE HERE AND NOW, BUT NOT
COMFORTABLE IN THE HERE AND NOW

00:36:58.733 --> 00:37:02.400
TO WHERE I JUST WANT TO CAMP
OUT HERE AND BE HERE FOREVER.

00:37:02.500 --> 00:37:05.566
IT'S IT KEEPS ME IN STEP WITH
THE SPIRIT. I THINK THAT'S LIKE

00:37:05.666 --> 00:37:08.800
THE THEME OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT IS JUST TRYING TO STAY IN

00:37:08.900 --> 00:37:11.633
STEP WITH THE SPIRIT. I MEAN,
PAUL SAYS THIS, I BELIEVE IT'S

00:37:11.733 --> 00:37:15.466
IN THE BOOK OF GALATIANS. HE
SAYS, WALK IN THE SPIRIT, AND

00:37:15.566 --> 00:37:18.633
YOU WILL NOT GRATIFY THE
DESIRES OF THE FLESH. HE

00:37:18.733 --> 00:37:21.633
DOESN'T SAY, WALK IN THE SPIRIT
AND DON'T GRATIFY THE DESIRES

00:37:21.733 --> 00:37:25.433
OF THE FLESH. HE SAYS, IF
YOU'LL JUST FOCUS ON WALKING IN

00:37:25.533 --> 00:37:29.566
THE SPIRIT, YOU NATURALLY WILL
NOT FULFILL THE DESIRES OF THE

00:37:29.666 --> 00:37:32.467
FLESH, BECAUSE THE SPIRIT AND
THE FLESH ARE GOING IN OPPOSITE

00:37:32.567 --> 00:37:34.400
DIRECTIONS. SO IF YOU'RE
WALKING IN THE SPIRIT, YOU ARE

00:37:34.500 --> 00:37:37.433
NATURALLY WALKING AWAY FROM THE
FLESH.

00:37:37.533 --> 00:37:40.433
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE'S
SAYING IN ROMANS EIGHT. AND

00:37:40.533 --> 00:37:43.533
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS A LOT OF
PEOPLE, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A

00:37:43.633 --> 00:37:46.400
PET PEEVE OF MINE. A LOT OF
PEOPLE WILL QUOTE ROMANS SEVEN,

00:37:46.500 --> 00:37:49.500
AND THEN THEY THINK IT ENDS
RIGHT THERE. AND THEY'RE LIKE,

00:37:49.600 --> 00:37:51.566
BECAUSE PAUL'S LIKE, I DO WHAT
I DON'T WANT TO DO. AND HE'S

00:37:51.666 --> 00:37:54.533
BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE
STRUGGLE OF LIKE, YOUR FLESH

00:37:54.633 --> 00:37:57.500
AND SIN AND ALL THIS KIND OF
STUFF. BUT PAUL GIVES THE

00:37:57.600 --> 00:38:00.666
ANTIDOTE IN ROMANS EIGHT AND
I'M LIKE, JUST GO ONE CHAPTER

00:38:00.766 --> 00:38:04.533
OVER BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE USE IT
AS LIKE, OH, SEE, THIS IS AND

00:38:04.633 --> 00:38:06.700
I'M LIKE, NO, THAT IS A REALITY
FOR US UNTIL, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS

00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.700
THERE'S NO CONDEMNATION FOR
THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS.

00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.766
AND PAUL GOES INTO, YOU KNOW,
SO NO LONGER IT'S LIKE NOW LIKE

00:38:12.866 --> 00:38:16.667
BEFALL THE SPIRIT, THOSE WHO
ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD

00:38:16.767 --> 00:38:19.500
ARE SONS OF GOD. AND HE GOES
THROUGH ALL OF THAT, RIGHT? YES.

00:38:19.600 --> 00:38:21.533
AND SO THE ANTIDOTE IS THERE.
YES. AND SO I'M ALWAYS LIKE,

00:38:21.633 --> 00:38:24.633
CONNECT THE TWO CHAPTERS
BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. SO IF

00:38:24.733 --> 00:38:27.667
SOMEONE OKAY, SO WHEN IS A GOOD
TIME TO FAST. YEAH. HOW DOES

00:38:27.767 --> 00:38:31.600
SOMEONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF FAST
TO DO. AND ALSO I THINK YOU

00:38:31.700 --> 00:38:34.633
KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES
IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO BE LED BY

00:38:34.733 --> 00:38:36.533
THE SPIRIT. BUT I ALSO THINK
IT'S A TOOL THAT YOU CAN

00:38:36.633 --> 00:38:39.567
IMPLEMENT.
>> YEAH. BIG TIME. YEAH. YOU

00:38:39.667 --> 00:38:42.633
OF THOSE THINGS LIKE SO MANY
CAN DECIDE TO DO IT. IT'S ONE

00:38:42.733 --> 00:38:46.600
PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, I JUST
NEED GOD TO TELL ME WHEN I'M

00:38:46.700 --> 00:38:49.633
LIKE HE DID IN THE BIBLE, LIKE
HE DID TELL YOU. JESUS SAYS IN

00:38:49.733 --> 00:38:53.433
MATTHEW SIX, AND WHEN YOU FAST,
NOT IF IT'S WHEN. SO THIS WOULD

00:38:53.533 --> 00:38:56.433
MEAN JESUS EXPECTS EVERY
FOLLOWER OF HIS TO FAST.

00:38:56.533 --> 00:38:59.567
THERE'S NO ONE EXEMPT FROM THIS,
AND THAT'S THE MISNOMER THAT WE

00:38:59.667 --> 00:39:02.667
HAVE. WE THINK THAT FASTING IS
JUST GOING TO BE FOR THE ELITE.

00:39:02.767 --> 00:39:05.666
IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE SUPER
CHRISTIAN. IT'S GOING TO BE FOR

00:39:05.766 --> 00:39:07.800
THE GUY WHO'S THE APOSTLE.
>> THE PROPHET, THE PASTOR,

00:39:07.900 --> 00:39:10.533
TEACHER, EVANGELIST.
>> LIKE ALL THOSE GUYS,

00:39:10.633 --> 00:39:12.633
THEY NEED TO FAST. AND I'M
GONNA I'M GONNA EAT. THE

00:39:12.733 --> 00:39:14.600
ONLY FAST FOOD I KNOW IS
THROUGH A DRIVE.

00:39:14.700 --> 00:39:17.500
>> THROUGH.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

00:39:17.600 --> 00:39:19.533
LIKE, THAT'S THAT'S, LIKE,
KIND OF THEIR THING. AND SO,

00:39:19.633 --> 00:39:22.466
NO, JESUS EXPECTS ALL OF
HIS FOLLOWERS BECAUSE HE

00:39:22.566 --> 00:39:25.600
SAYS, AND WHEN YOU DO THIS,
LIKE, MEANING YOU WILL IF

00:39:25.700 --> 00:39:28.700
YOU STAY IN STEP. SO YOU
CAN JUST DECIDE TO DO IT NOW.

00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:32.466
SOME OF THE GREAT TIMES TO GO
ON A FAST ARE AROUND BIG

00:39:32.566 --> 00:39:35.500
DECISIONS, BIG DECISIONS, GREAT
TIME. ONE OF THE KEY THINGS I

00:39:35.600 --> 00:39:38.966
THINK, NUMBER ONE, IT HELPS
CLEAR YOUR YOUR OWN MOTIVES AND

00:39:38.966 --> 00:39:42.100
YOUR OWN REASONING FOR WHY YOU
WOULD WANT TO MAKE A CERTAIN

00:39:42.200 --> 00:39:47.000
CHOICE OR THAT CHOICE, BUT IT
CLEARS THE AIR. IT DISSIPATES

00:39:47.100 --> 00:39:50.933
THAT LIKE FLESHLY FOG OVER YOUR
OWN HEART AND MIND. BUT THEN

00:39:51.033 --> 00:39:54.866
ALSO LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS. IT
BUYS YOU TIME TO HEAR GOD

00:39:54.966 --> 00:39:57.933
ACCURATELY. YEAH, IF YOU SAY,
I'M GOING TO FAST AND PRAY FOR

00:39:58.033 --> 00:40:01.066
THE NEXT THREE DAYS ABOUT THIS
DECISION, THAT MEANS I DON'T

00:40:01.166 --> 00:40:04.000
HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION
TODAY. I ALSO DON'T HAVE TO

00:40:04.100 --> 00:40:07.900
MAKE THAT DECISION TOMORROW. I
ALSO DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO

00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:11.900
MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL THAT
THIRD DAY IS OVER. IT NOW BUYS

00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.866
ME TIME. TO WHERE I'M NOT IN A
RUSH. YEAH, I'M NOT BEING LED

00:40:15.966 --> 00:40:19.133
BY HUSTLE CULTURE. I'M NOT
BEING LED BY LIKE, WHAT'S THE

00:40:19.233 --> 00:40:22.933
MOST LUCRATIVE THING? WHAT'S
THE WHAT'S GOING TO LOOK BEST,

00:40:23.033 --> 00:40:27.866
WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN IN ON
BRAND. WITH MY LAST NAME, I'M

00:40:27.966 --> 00:40:30.766
ABLE TO SAY NO, I WANT TO HEAR
THE LORD. AND THEN IF YOU WILL

00:40:30.833 --> 00:40:32.900
DO THAT, IF YOU KNOW, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT GIVES ME PEACE

00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.067
ABOUT SOME OF THE DECISIONS
I'VE MADE IN MY LIFE IS, I KNOW

00:40:36.167 --> 00:40:38.799
I SOUGHT GODLY COUNSEL. I'M IN
AGREEMENT WITH MY WIFE. IT'S

00:40:38.899 --> 00:40:41.900
BACKED BY THE SCRIPTURES, LIKE
THE SCRIPTURES WOULD NEVER

00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.767
CONDEMN THIS DECISION. YEAH,
AND I KNOW I PRAYED AND FASTED.

00:40:45.867 --> 00:40:48.266
AND IF AT THE END OF THOSE
THINGS, LIKE ALL THE

00:40:48.366 --> 00:40:50.866
AUTHORITATIVE VOICES IN YOUR
LIFE, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT

00:40:50.966 --> 00:40:53.933
YOUR ACOLYTES, I'M TALKING
ABOUT AUTHORITATIVE VOICES, NOT

00:40:54.033 --> 00:40:56.900
PEOPLE YOU'VE ALREADY WON TO
YOUR SIDE WHO ARE JUST LIKE

00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.199
YOUR MINIONS. YEAH, I'M TALKING
YOU'RE A LITTLE YES MAN AND

00:40:59.299 --> 00:41:02.100
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE AUTHORITY.
THEY KNOW THE SCRIPTURES BETTER

00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:04.900
THAN YOU. THEY'VE WALKED WITH
GOD LONGER THAN YOU. THEY HAVE

00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.233
NO SKIN IN THIS GAME. LIKE
THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING

00:41:07.333 --> 00:41:10.900
OUT OF YOU MAKING THIS DECISION.
THEY'RE ABLE TO SEE ACCURATELY.

00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.866
NO, THIS IS STUPID. YOU DON'T
NEED TO BE DOING THIS OR NO,

00:41:13.966 --> 00:41:15.900
THIS IS GODLY. YOU ABSOLUTELY
NEED TO DO THIS. THIS IS A

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:17.866
GREAT DECISION. THEY'RE
ABLE TO SPEAK INTO THAT.

00:41:17.966 --> 00:41:19.966
SCRIPTURE SAYS THERE'S
SAFETY IN A MULTITUDE OF

00:41:20.066 --> 00:41:22.900
COUNSELORS. YOU KNOW, I
THINK IT'S HILARIOUS TO ME

00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:24.933
THAT PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH,
NO. YEAH. LIKE I HAVE A

00:41:25.033 --> 00:41:27.033
MULTITUDE OF COUNSELORS.
IT'S LIKE, YOU HAVE ONE

00:41:27.133 --> 00:41:29.866
FRIEND AND YOU'RE CALLING
THAT IF SOMEBODY INVITED ME

00:41:29.966 --> 00:41:32.833
TO PREACH, THEY'RE LIKE,
KENAN, COME PREACH. YEAH,

00:41:32.933 --> 00:41:34.966
WE HAVE A MULTITUDE. AND I
GET THERE AND THERE ARE TWO

00:41:35.066 --> 00:41:37.033
PEOPLE IN THE CROWD. I'LL
BE LIKE, YOU LIE!

00:41:37.133 --> 00:41:39.833
>> YEAH.
>> THIS IS NOT A MULTITUDE.

00:41:39.933 --> 00:41:43.000
BUT WE THINK, OH, A
MULTITUDE IS LIKE JUST LIKE

00:41:43.100 --> 00:41:45.967
1 OR 2. NO, THIS IS LIKE A
WIDE ARRAY OF MEN AND WOMEN

00:41:46.067 --> 00:41:51.000
OF GOD WHO ARE. I'M
INVITING IN ON THIS

00:41:51.100 --> 00:41:54.567
DECISION. AND THEN IF I'VE
PRAYED AND I FASTED, I KNOW,

00:41:54.633 --> 00:42:01.000
GOD, I GAVE YOU EVERY
OPPORTUNITY TO SAY NO OR

00:42:01.333 --> 00:42:04.433
GOD. I GAVE YOU EVERY
OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES. AND

00:42:04.533 --> 00:42:08.166
THIS STILL IS WHERE MY SPIRIT
IS LEANING. THIS FEELS I HAVE

00:42:08.266 --> 00:42:11.333
THE MOST PEACE ABOUT THIS. THIS
FEELS RIGHT. WE'RE IN AGREEMENT,

00:42:11.433 --> 00:42:14.167
YOU KNOW, ACTS. I WANT TO SAY
IT'S 16 BEFORE THE

00:42:14.267 --> 00:42:18.200
QUINTESSENTIAL MOMENT WHERE
PAUL AND SILAS ARE IN PRISON.

00:42:18.300 --> 00:42:23.299
THERE'S A MOMENT WHERE IT COULD
BE 15. IT'S LUKE WHO WRITES THE

00:42:23.399 --> 00:42:25.166
BOOK OF ACTS. HE SAID IT SEEMED
GOOD TO US AND TO THE HOLY

00:42:25.266 --> 00:42:28.333
SPIRIT.
>> YES, I REMEMBER THAT VERSE.

00:42:28.433 --> 00:42:31.233
>> YEAH. LIKE IT JUST IT SEEMED
GOOD, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT'S LIKE

00:42:31.333 --> 00:42:34.199
IT WASN'T A THUS SAITH THE
LORD. IT WASN'T LIKE IT WAS

00:42:34.299 --> 00:42:37.133
SPELLED OUT IN THE CLOUDS.
IT WASN'T LIKE I GOT LIKE

00:42:37.233 --> 00:42:40.133
SOME, LIKE, CRAZY
REVELATION. IT JUST. MAN,

00:42:40.233 --> 00:42:42.433
THIS SEEMS RIGHT. YEP. TO
US AND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

00:42:42.533 --> 00:42:45.166
SO WE DID IT. THERE ARE
GOING TO BE THOSE MOMENTS

00:42:45.266 --> 00:42:47.366
WHERE, MAN, THIS JUST THIS
REALLY SEEMS RIGHT. AND ONE

00:42:47.466 --> 00:42:50.366
OF THE WAYS YOU HAVE
CONFIDENCE IS WHEN YOU KNOW,

00:42:50.466 --> 00:42:52.466
NO, I GAVE GOD THREE DAYS.
I SUBMITTED TO A PRAYER AND

00:42:52.566 --> 00:42:54.299
FASTING. I'VE SUBMITTED
THIS TO WISE COUNSEL. WE'RE

00:42:54.399 --> 00:42:57.099
GOING TO WALK IN THIS
DIRECTION.

00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.167
>> YOU KNOW WHAT'S SO COOL
LIKE THAT? I'M GLEANING

00:42:59.267 --> 00:43:01.333
FROM THIS, LIKE,
CONVERSATION. AND I'M JUST SO

00:43:01.433 --> 00:43:04.333
THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE
TALKING ABOUT THIS AND THAT.

00:43:04.433 --> 00:43:07.399
YOU WROTE THIS BOOK. IS THAT
WHAT HIT ME? IS THAT IN THE

00:43:07.499 --> 00:43:11.233
PAST, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I
WOULD ONLY FAST IF I FELT THE

00:43:11.333 --> 00:43:16.200
HOLY SPIRIT LEADING ME OR IF MY
CHURCH WAS DOING IT RIGHT,

00:43:16.300 --> 00:43:20.266
CORPORATELY. RIGHT. BUT WHAT'S
INTERESTING IS, WHAT HIT ME IN

00:43:20.366 --> 00:43:24.500
THIS INTERVIEW IS THAT YOU
DON'T NEED GOD ALWAYS SAYING GO

00:43:24.600 --> 00:43:27.567
FAST, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, I KNOW
TO WORK OUT. I DON'T WORK OUT

00:43:27.667 --> 00:43:30.467
ALMOST EVERY DAY BECAUSE THE
HOLY SPIRIT'S LIKE, GO WORK OUT.

00:43:30.567 --> 00:43:33.433
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE HE SHOWS
THAT SOMETHING IS GOOD AND THEN

00:43:33.533 --> 00:43:37.167
YOU DO IT CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE
YOU KNOW IT'S GOOD AND YOU KNOW

00:43:37.267 --> 00:43:38.466
IT HAS BENEFITS. AND I'M LIKE,
WHY? WHY DO WE HAVE TO LIKE

00:43:38.566 --> 00:43:41.433
OVERSPIRITUALIZE SPIRITUAL
DISCIPLINES THAT IT ALWAYS HAS

00:43:41.533 --> 00:43:44.299
TO BE LIKE THIS CLEAR THING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THESE ARE

00:43:44.399 --> 00:43:47.433
JUST SHOULD BE HABITS OF OUR
SPIRITUAL LIFE. JUST LIKE I

00:43:47.533 --> 00:43:50.333
DON'T NEED THE HOLY SPIRIT TO
TELL ME TO READ MY BIBLE EVERY

00:43:50.433 --> 00:43:53.433
DAY. I JUST READ MY BIBLE. BUT
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT

00:43:53.533 --> 00:43:57.167
FASTING IS THE ONE THAT KIND OF
GETS LEFT OUT BIG TIME. LIKE,

00:43:57.267 --> 00:43:59.433
OH WELL, I'LL READ MY BIBLE,
I'LL PRAY, YOU KNOW, I'LL GO TO

00:43:59.533 --> 00:44:02.333
CHURCH. BUT FASTING IS
SOMETHING IN THE WEST, LIKE WE

00:44:02.433 --> 00:44:05.333
REALLY HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH,
AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT. AND

00:44:05.433 --> 00:44:06.533
THAT'S WHY I JUST LOVE THAT
YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE, IF THIS IS

00:44:06.600 --> 00:44:08.867
A GOOD THING AND IT'S A
SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINE, WE SHOULD

00:44:08.967 --> 00:44:11.866
JUST BE DOING IT. WE DON'T NEED
TO BE WAITING FOR LIKE, A SIGN

00:44:11.966 --> 00:44:14.899
IN THE SKY. YEAH. AND HE'LL
GIVE YOU THE GRACE TO DO IT.

00:44:14.999 --> 00:44:17.833
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T DO IT IN
YOUR OWN STRENGTH, BUT IT'S,

00:44:17.933 --> 00:44:20.833
YOU KNOW, THE CONVICTION THAT
I'M SEEING IS LIKE, THIS SHOULD

00:44:20.933 --> 00:44:22.800
JUST BE A REGULAR PART OF
MY LIFE.

00:44:22.900 --> 00:44:25.067
>> YEAH, YEAH. LIKE ONE OF
THE THINGS. AND THIS WAS SO

00:44:25.167 --> 00:44:27.900
COOL WHEN I SAW IT. BUT
THINK ABOUT THE PRODIGAL

00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.067
SON. THE PRODIGAL SON DOES
WHAT HE DOES. HE'S OFF IN A

00:44:30.167 --> 00:44:33.000
FAR COUNTRY, WASTES HIS
MONEY. FAMINE HITS THE LAND.

00:44:33.100 --> 00:44:35.933
TIMES ARE BAD. CAN'T GET A
JOB. THE ONLY JOB HE CAN

00:44:36.033 --> 00:44:38.833
GET IS SLOPPING PIGS. WHICH
THIS IS A JEWISH BOY. IN

00:44:38.933 --> 00:44:41.100
THE STORY, PIGS ARE UNCLEAN
ANIMALS. SO THIS IS BY HIM

00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:43.833
ACCEPTING THIS JOB, HE'S
NOW NOT ONLY TURNED HIS

00:44:43.933 --> 00:44:45.900
BACK ON HIS EARTHLY FATHER,
HE HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.766
HIS HEAVENLY FATHER. BY
ACCEPTING THIS JOB. HE'S

00:44:48.866 --> 00:44:51.000
SAYING, YO, I DON'T GIVE A
DARN ABOUT ANY OF THIS

00:44:51.100 --> 00:44:53.833
STUFF. I'M LOOKING OUT FOR
ME, MINE, AND THAT'S IT.

00:44:53.933 --> 00:44:56.766
AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN
THE FINE PRINT OF THE

00:44:56.866 --> 00:44:58.933
CONTRACT WAS THAT HE COULD
NOT EAT FROM THE SLOP OF

00:44:59.033 --> 00:45:00.999
THE PIGS, WHICH NO DOUBT,
WHEN HE SIGNED THAT

00:45:01.099 --> 00:45:03.966
CONTRACT, HE THOUGHT,
THERE'S NO WAY I'D EVER

00:45:04.066 --> 00:45:06.166
WANT TO EAT PIG SLOP. BUT
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HE

00:45:06.266 --> 00:45:09.133
FINDS HIMSELF BEING ENTICED
BY PIG SLOP BECAUSE HE'S SO

00:45:09.233 --> 00:45:11.033
HUNGRY. HE, LIKE, LITERALLY
HE IS CRAVING THINGS HE

00:45:11.133 --> 00:45:12.133
NEVER WOULD HAVE IMAGINED
HE WOULD CRAVE. HOW MANY

00:45:12.233 --> 00:45:14.899
PEOPLE ARE THAT?
>> YEAH.

00:45:14.999 --> 00:45:17.166
>> CRAVING THINGS. AT ONE
POINT YOU WOULD HAVE SWORN

00:45:17.966 --> 00:45:19.300
THERE'S NO WAY. THERE'S NO
WAY. YOU KNOW WHY? IT'S

00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:21.066
BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE
IMPURITY AND PERVERSION

00:45:21.166 --> 00:45:24.033
KNOWS NO BOUNDS. ONE LEVEL
OF PERVERSION BEGETS THE

00:45:24.133 --> 00:45:28.100
NEXT LEVEL OF PERVERSION.
YEAH, NO ONE STARTS OFF DOING

00:45:28.200 --> 00:45:31.066
THESE LIKE I'M TALKING HEINOUS,
RIDICULOUS THINGS THAT WE WOULD

00:45:31.166 --> 00:45:33.933
BE LIKE PAUL SAYS IN FIRST
CORINTHIANS FIVE, THINGS NOT

00:45:34.033 --> 00:45:36.133
EVEN PAGANS ARE WILLING TO
ENTERTAIN. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M

00:45:36.233 --> 00:45:39.066
SAYING? THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS
ABOUT THIS ONE DUDE WHO'S

00:45:39.166 --> 00:45:42.200
SHACKING UP WITH HIS DAD'S WIFE
IN THE CORINTHIAN CHURCH. ALL

00:45:42.300 --> 00:45:45.067
OF A SUDDEN, THIS PRODIGAL SON
IN LUKE 15 IS BEING ENTICED BY

00:45:45.167 --> 00:45:48.866
SOMETHING HE WOULD HAVE SWORN
HE'D NEVER EAT. BUT ALL OF A

00:45:48.966 --> 00:45:51.899
SUDDEN HE GOES TO EAT IT. AND
WHEN HE CHOOSES THE BIBLE SAYS

00:45:51.999 --> 00:45:55.966
HE DIDN'T EAT FROM IT. HE
ABSTAINED FROM THE FOOD THAT HE

00:45:56.066 --> 00:46:00.766
WANTED TO EAT, BUT HE DIDN'T.
THE BIBLE SAID HE CAME TO HIS

00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.733
SENSES, I THINK. I DO BELIEVE
THAT IS A NUGGET ON WHEN WE

00:46:05.833 --> 00:46:08.933
FASTING. WHEN WE ABSTAIN, IT
LEADS TO A COMING OF OUR SENSES.

00:46:09.033 --> 00:46:12.700
AND HE CAME BACK HOME. THIS BOY
WHO COULD NOT MAKE A RIGHT

00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.733
DECISION TO SAVE HIS LIFE, THIS
BOY WHO SPAT IN HIS FATHER'S

00:46:15.833 --> 00:46:19.700
FACE TO SAY, GIVE ME MY
INHERITANCE BEFORE MY FATHER IS

00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.700
DEAD IS ME SAYING, DAD, I WISH
YOU WERE DEAD. AND

00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:23.933
UNFORTUNATELY YOUR HEALTHY AND
I DON'T HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO

00:46:24.033 --> 00:46:27.767
WAIT UNTIL YOU DIE.
>> YEAH.

00:46:27.867 --> 00:46:31.066
>> SO GIVE ME WHAT I'VE GOT
COMING. AND THE DAD GAVE IT TO

00:46:31.166 --> 00:46:33.933
HIM. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN,
I MEAN, THE LITTLE LITERALLY,

00:46:34.033 --> 00:46:36.933
THE DUDE CAN'T MAKE A GOOD
DECISION TO SAVE HIS LIFE. AND

00:46:37.033 --> 00:46:40.700
THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
SAYING, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO

00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.666
EAT THIS THING. I'VE BEEN I'VE
BEEN ASKED NOT TO EAT. HE COMES

00:46:43.766 --> 00:46:46.667
TO HIS SENSES. I DO BELIEVE
THAT GOD HID THAT NUGGET IN

00:46:46.767 --> 00:46:48.833
THERE ABOUT PRAYER AND FASTING.
>> YEAH. AND I THINK ALSO IT

00:46:48.933 --> 00:46:52.233
KIND OF COMES BACK TO THE
WISDOM IN SAYING.

00:46:52.333 --> 00:46:54.733
>> YES, SAYING NO. YEAH, WE GOT
IT. LIKE I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT

00:46:54.833 --> 00:46:59.900
BUILDING THAT NO MUSCLE LIKE
YOU. THERE ARE NECESSARY NO'S

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.966
IN YOUR LIFE. AND WHATEVER
YOU SAY NO TO, YOU'RE

00:47:03.066 --> 00:47:05.766
MAKING IT TO WHERE YOU
CAN'T SAY YES TO SOME OTHER

00:47:05.866 --> 00:47:08.800
THINGS. AND THERE ARE
THINGS GOD DESIRES YOU TO

00:47:08.900 --> 00:47:11.766
BE ABLE TO SAY YES TO. BUT
BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T SAY NO

00:47:11.866 --> 00:47:14.800
TO THAT NOW, YOU CAN'T SAY
YES TO THIS. AND AGAIN, I'M

00:47:14.900 --> 00:47:16.866
NOT TRYING TO ACT LIKE GOD
IS NOT GRACIOUS. HE IS

00:47:16.966 --> 00:47:19.266
GRACIOUS. BUT THERE ARE
SOME ASSIGNMENTS. CAN I

00:47:19.366 --> 00:47:22.766
JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU?
THERE ARE SOME ASSIGNMENTS

00:47:22.866 --> 00:47:25.200
THAT COME WITH A SHELF LIFE.
NOW, THE GIFT AND THE CALL

00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:26.899
OF GOD ARE WITHOUT
REPENTANCE AND THEY ARE

00:47:26.999 --> 00:47:29.933
IRREVOCABLE. THAT'S WHAT
ROMANS 1129 SAYS. THEY'RE

00:47:30.033 --> 00:47:31.899
IRREVOCABLE. BUT THERE ARE
SOME UNIQUE ASSIGNMENTS

00:47:31.999 --> 00:47:34.833
THAT HAVE A SHELF LIFE. AND
IF.

00:47:34.933 --> 00:47:37.733
>> YOU COMPLETELY AGREE.
>> IF YOU DO NOT SAY YES,

00:47:37.833 --> 00:47:39.799
YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT OLD
SAYING THE OPPORTUNITY OF A

00:47:39.899 --> 00:47:42.733
LIFETIME MUST BE SEIZED
WITHIN THE LIFETIME OF THE

00:47:42.833 --> 00:47:44.900
OPPORTUNITY. AND THERE ARE
SOME TIMES WHERE IT'S LIKE

00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.733
GOD IS GIVING YOU THE
OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME,

00:47:47.833 --> 00:47:49.900
BUT YOU'VE GOT TO SAY YES
WITHIN THE LIFETIME OF THAT

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.933
OPPORTUNITY. YEAH, BECAUSE
IT WILL EXPIRE. AND GOD MAY

00:47:52.033 --> 00:47:54.933
BE FAITHFUL TO BRING
SOMETHING ELSE AROUND, BUT

00:47:55.033 --> 00:47:58.066
IT COULD BE THAT LIKE, HEY,
THE HAND OF GOD IS STILL ON

00:47:58.166 --> 00:48:01.833
YOU, STILL CALLED, BUT THAT
DOOR IS NOW FOREVER CLOSED.

00:48:01.933 --> 00:48:05.933
YEAH, BECAUSE OF MY
IGNORANCE AND MY INABILITY

00:48:06.033 --> 00:48:08.133
TO SEE. AND ULTIMATELY IN
THOSE PLACES, IT'S MORE OF

00:48:08.233 --> 00:48:11.933
AN OUTRIGHT REJECTION. DOES
THAT MAKE SENSE? RARELY IS

00:48:12.033 --> 00:48:14.033
IT LIKE, YO, I JUST REALLY
DIDN'T KNOW GOD WILL GIVE

00:48:14.133 --> 00:48:16.166
OPPORTUNITIES YOU MISSED
BECAUSE YOU WERE IGNORANT.

00:48:16.266 --> 00:48:18.866
GOD WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET
AN OPPORTUNITY IN YOUR

00:48:18.966 --> 00:48:21.133
WISDOM TO HAVE THAT AGAIN.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT

00:48:21.233 --> 00:48:23.833
MOMENTS WHEN YOU KNEW WHAT YOU
WERE DOING AND YOU OUTRIGHT

00:48:23.933 --> 00:48:27.833
SAID NO. SOMETIMES THOSE THOSE
EXPIRE.

00:48:27.933 --> 00:48:31.900
>> YEAH. AND ALSO I THINK IT'S
JUST MAINTAINING LIKE BEING

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.900
SENSITIVE TO HIS LEADING. AND I
THINK YOU I THINK IT'S EASY TO

00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.800
GET INTO A PLACE WHERE YOUR
HEART GETS HARDENED BECAUSE YOU

00:48:38.900 --> 00:48:41.833
START SAYING NO AND YOU START
RESISTING HIS LEADING, AND WE

00:48:41.933 --> 00:48:43.800
HAVE TO MOVE BACK IN TO. THAT'S
WHY REPENTANCE IS SO POOR.

00:48:43.900 --> 00:48:45.899
THAT'S WHY FASTING IS SO
IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT'S

00:48:45.999 --> 00:48:50.033
BRINGING THAT BACK INTO
SUBMISSION TO HIM AND BEING

00:48:50.133 --> 00:48:53.933
SOFT, MALLEABLE, WILLING TO
SUBMIT TO HIM. IT'S JUST SO

00:48:54.033 --> 00:48:56.999
IMPORTANT. FIGHT. CAN I HAVE MY
PHONE? WE JUST KEEP THIS IN THE

00:48:57.099 --> 00:48:59.999
INTERVIEW. THEN YOU CAN LIKE,
APPEAR IN THE PODCAST.

00:49:00.099 --> 00:49:03.167
>> COME ON.
>> I WANT TO, AS YOU WERE

00:49:03.267 --> 00:49:07.000
SAYING THAT ABOUT THE SUN AND I
WAS SAYING, NO, I'M THINKING

00:49:07.100 --> 00:49:10.999
I'M LIKE, IS THIS THE STORY OF
CAIN? WHERE ARE YOU TALKING

00:49:11.099 --> 00:49:13.100
ABOUT WITH CAIN AND ABEL?
>> IT'D BE LIKE GENESIS, LIKE

00:49:13.200 --> 00:49:18.000
THE END OF GENESIS, GENESIS
FOUR.

00:49:18.100 --> 00:49:21.967
>> TO RULE OVER YOU. HE GOES
AND WARNS CAIN, YEAH, YEAH. SO

00:49:22.067 --> 00:49:26.100
IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, SAY NO

00:49:26.200 --> 00:49:30.833
TO SIN. AND THEN WHAT CAME TO
ME AS YOU WERE TALKING IS THAT

00:49:30.933 --> 00:49:33.967
VERSE WHERE BASICALLY THAT CAIN
GETS JEALOUS OF ABEL. YEAH. SO

00:49:34.067 --> 00:49:37.100
THE LORD GOES TO CAIN. HE GOES,
WHY ARE YOU ANGRY? AND WHY HAS

00:49:37.200 --> 00:49:40.867
YOUR FACE FALLEN? IF YOU DO
WELL, WILL YOU NOT BE ACCEPTED?

00:49:40.967 --> 00:49:44.967
AND IF YOU DO NOT DO WELL, SIN
IS CROUCHING AT THE DOOR, AND A

00:49:45.067 --> 00:49:46.800
DESIRE IS CONTRARY TO YOU, BUT
YOU MUST RULE OVER IT. COME ON.

00:49:46.900 --> 00:49:50.933
AND SO HE'S TALKING. IT'S JUST
SO INTERESTING BECAUSE HE'S

00:49:51.033 --> 00:49:53.866
TALKING ABOUT HOW IT SAYS IN
ANOTHER VERSION. BUT IF YOU

00:49:53.966 --> 00:49:57.833
REFUSE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT,
THEN WATCH OUT. SIN IS

00:49:57.933 --> 00:49:59.866
CROUCHING AT THE DOOR, EAGER TO
CONTROL YOU, BUT YOU MUST

00:49:59.966 --> 00:50:00.999
SUBDUE IT AND MUST BE ITS
MASTER. COME ON. THIS IS

00:50:01.099 --> 00:50:04.067
TOTALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT.

00:50:04.167 --> 00:50:06.200
>> YEAH. BIG TIME. I MEAN, YOU.
>> KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO CAIN?

00:50:06.300 --> 00:50:09.867
HE DID NOT.
>> HE BECAME THE FIRST MURDERER.

00:50:09.967 --> 00:50:11.900
>> THAT'S SUCH A CRAZY STORY. I
MEAN, HE GIVES INTO IT FIRST

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.099
MURDERER, AND THEN HE GOES AND
CONFRONTS CAIN.

00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:15.866
>> ABOUT WHAT? HE GOT IRRITATED.
HE WANTED TO OFFER A GRAIN

00:50:15.966 --> 00:50:19.900
OFFERING.
>> YEAH.

00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.833
>> AND ABEL'S OFFERING THE FAT
OF THE OF THE ANIMALS THAT HE

00:50:23.933 --> 00:50:28.900
HAS, LIKE, THE BEST OF THE BEST.
IT'S THIS GUY WHO'S TRYING TO.

00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:31.867
HE'S TRYING TO CHINSE OUT ON
OFFERING. GOD, I DON'T GOT TO

00:50:31.967 --> 00:50:34.966
GIVE GOD ALL THAT. I DON'T GOT
TO GIVE GOD ALL THAT. THAT I

00:50:35.066 --> 00:50:38.066
DON'T GOT TO GIVE GOD ALL
THAT LED TO MURDER. LET ME

00:50:38.166 --> 00:50:41.033
LITERALLY LET HIM TO LIKE,
HEY, SIN IS CROUCHING AT

00:50:41.133 --> 00:50:43.933
THE DOOR IF YOU DO WHAT'S
RIGHT. AND THIS WHOLE THING

00:50:44.033 --> 00:50:47.000
OF LIKE, WELL, I DON'T HAVE
TO FAST. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE

00:50:47.100 --> 00:50:49.933
TO GO ALL THAT. I DON'T I
DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT. DOES

00:50:50.033 --> 00:50:52.899
IT REALLY TAKE ALL THAT?
DOES IT REALLY LIKE I WOULD

00:50:52.999 --> 00:50:55.933
TAKE MY WALK WITH GOD OVER A
PERSON LIKE THAT'S WALK WITH

00:50:56.033 --> 00:51:00.033
GOD ANY DAY. AND I'M NOT ACTING
LIKE MY WALK WITH GOD IS

00:51:00.133 --> 00:51:04.133
PERFECT. I'M STILL TRYING TO
STAY PLIABLE, MALLEABLE IN THE

00:51:04.233 --> 00:51:07.033
HANDS OF THE LORD. BUT I DON'T
WANT TO BE THAT PERSON. I DON'T

00:51:07.133 --> 00:51:09.333
TAKE ALL THAT, YOU KNOW.
>> YEAH, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO

00:51:09.433 --> 00:51:12.233
THE BARE MINIMUM FOR GOD.
THAT'S LIKE, COMPLETELY MISSES

00:51:12.333 --> 00:51:16.000
THE HEART OF WORSHIP. AND HE
WAS JEALOUS OF HIS BROTHER. BUT

00:51:16.100 --> 00:51:19.000
GOD IS LIKE, YOU CAN HAVE THIS
TOO. LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE

00:51:19.100 --> 00:51:21.900
JEALOUS, YOU KNOW? AND HE'S
LIKE, DON'T GIVE IN. YOU KNOW,

00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.933
I THINK ABOUT THAT VERSE, IT
SAYS, YOU KNOW, BE ANGRY, BUT

00:51:25.033 --> 00:51:28.033
SIN NOT. IT'S LIKE, DON'T LET
YOU KNOW. DON'T OPEN THE DOOR

00:51:28.133 --> 00:51:30.133
AND LET THIS THING OVERTAKE YOU,
BECAUSE THEN IT'S GOING TO LEAD

00:51:30.233 --> 00:51:32.900
TO SOMETHING EVEN WORSE. AND
THEN THAT ACTION AFFECTED THE

00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:35.900
TRAJECTORY OF HIS LIFE AND THE
GENERATIONS AFTER. LIKE, YOU

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.000
KNOW, THE THING I THINK ABOUT
NOW, WHICH I WAS NOT THINKING

00:51:39.100 --> 00:51:40.933
ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, IS I THINK
ABOUT HOW MY ACTIONS ARE GOING

00:51:41.033 --> 00:51:43.899
TO AFFECT MY CHILDREN.
>> COME ON.

00:51:43.999 --> 00:51:47.066
>> BECAUSE YOU READ IN THE
BIBLE LIKE YOU READ ABOUT THE

00:51:47.166 --> 00:51:50.999
OTHER DAY. I WAS READING ABOUT
SOLOMON, AND ONE OF THE THINGS

00:51:51.099 --> 00:51:54.100
HE SAYS IS LIKE, I WON'T PUT
THIS ON YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR

00:51:54.200 --> 00:51:57.166
FATHER'S FAITHFULNESS, BUT IT
IS GOING TO AFFECT YOUR SONS.

00:51:57.266 --> 00:51:59.267
YEP. AND SO YOU SEE IN THE
BIBLE, THERE'S THESE INSTANCES

00:51:59.367 --> 00:52:02.166
WHERE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE,
WHEN WE SEE GENERATIONAL

00:52:02.266 --> 00:52:05.267
INIQUITY, BUT IT'S LIKE THERE
CAN BE BLESSINGS STORED UP FOR

00:52:05.367 --> 00:52:08.200
OUR CHILDREN OR CURSES BY OUR
ACTIONS. AND SO I'M CHECKING

00:52:08.300 --> 00:52:11.099
MYSELF BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, I
KNOW YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. AND

00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:14.233
IT'S LIKE AS MUCH AS LIKE
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR

00:52:14.333 --> 00:52:17.266
FLESH. LIKE WHEN MY FLESH GETS
HURT, I WANT TO LASH OUT AT THE

00:52:17.366 --> 00:52:20.100
PEOPLE WHO HURT ME.
>> AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, YEAH.

00:52:20.200 --> 00:52:23.167
>> AND I HAVE TO CHECK MYSELF
BECAUSE I'M LIKE, WHAT AM I

00:52:23.267 --> 00:52:26.200
SOWING? BECAUSE WHAT AM I GOING
TO REAP BECAUSE OF WHAT I DO

00:52:26.300 --> 00:52:28.966
AND WHAT ARE MY CHILDREN GOING
TO REAP? AND SO NOW I'M

00:52:29.066 --> 00:52:31.199
THINKING LIKE, EVEN BIGGER
PICTURE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE SIN

00:52:31.299 --> 00:52:32.966
NEVER JUST AFFECTS YOU. IT
AFFECTS ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND

00:52:33.066 --> 00:52:36.000
YOU.
>> DEUTERONOMY 3019 SAYS, I

00:52:36.100 --> 00:52:39.000
HAVE LAID BEFORE YOU LIFE AND
DEATH, BLESSINGS AND CURSES. I

00:52:39.100 --> 00:52:41.999
CALL ON ALL OF HEAVEN TO
WITNESS THE CHOICE YOU WILL

00:52:42.099 --> 00:52:44.967
MAKE. PEOPLE WANT TO. PEOPLE
WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT, OH,

00:52:45.067 --> 00:52:48.033
LIKE THERE'S NO FREE WILL. LIKE
WHAT DO YOU DO? DEUTERONOMY

00:52:48.133 --> 00:52:51.066
3019 LITERALLY GOD SAYS, I CALL
ON ALL OF HEAVEN TO WITNESS THE

00:52:51.166 --> 00:52:54.166
CHOICE YOU WILL MAKE. NOT THAT
I PREDESTINED YOU TO MAKE, AND

00:52:54.266 --> 00:52:58.000
YOU ARE A ROBOT AND YOU CAN'T,
LIKE, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS.

00:52:58.100 --> 00:53:00.267
I HAVE SET BEFORE YOU LIFE OR
DEATH, BLESSING AND CURSING.

00:53:00.367 --> 00:53:05.067
BUT OH, THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE
LIFE, THAT YOU AND YOUR

00:53:05.167 --> 00:53:08.167
DESCENDANTS MIGHT LIVE. THAT'S
WHAT THE WAY THE TEXT READS.

00:53:08.267 --> 00:53:11.166
YOU AND YOUR DESCENDANTS, YOUR
ABILITY TO CHOOSE LIFE, WILL

00:53:11.266 --> 00:53:15.200
AFFECT YOUR DESCENDANTS. THE
CHOICES YOU ARE MAKING RIGHT

00:53:15.300 --> 00:53:18.266
NOW, THEY WILL BLEED INTO THE
NEXT, THEY WILL BLEED OR THEY

00:53:18.366 --> 00:53:22.066
WILL BLESS. AND YOU'VE GOT
YOU'VE GOT TO CHOOSE AND ALL OF

00:53:22.166 --> 00:53:24.433
HEAVEN. THIS IS WHERE THE GREAT
CLOUD OF WITNESSES IN HEBREWS

00:53:24.533 --> 00:53:28.167
CHAPTER 12 COMES IN. YEAH. I'M
LIKE, MAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE

00:53:28.267 --> 00:53:33.066
CHEERING US ON. THAT WE MIGHT
CONTEND THAT WE WOULD LIKE,

00:53:33.166 --> 00:53:36.166
HAVE HAVE LONG SUFFERING. WELL,
THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS I LIKE

00:53:36.266 --> 00:53:39.133
THAT SOME BIBLES TRANSLATE THAT
FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT, SOME

00:53:39.233 --> 00:53:43.033
TRANSLATE IT PATIENCE. PATIENCE
CAN OFTEN BE MISCONSTRUED OF

00:53:43.133 --> 00:53:47.067
TO DO WHAT I WANT. LONG
I'M PATIENTLY WAITING FOR GOD

00:53:47.167 --> 00:53:50.067
SUFFERING IS LIKE I'M HOLDING
ON TO HIM FOR DEAR LIFE, NO

00:53:50.167 --> 00:53:53.133
MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES. YEAH,
NO MATTER WHAT I WALK THROUGH.

00:53:53.233 --> 00:53:55.166
IT'S A LONG SUFFERING.
>> I THINK IT'S A BETTER I LIKE

00:53:55.266 --> 00:53:57.433
THAT.
>> I LIKE IT TOO. IT'S. IT'S A

00:53:57.533 --> 00:54:01.233
BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT TRUE
PATIENCE ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE.

00:54:01.333 --> 00:54:04.233
IT'S LIKE. LORD, NO. NO MATTER
WHAT I HAVE TO WALK THROUGH FOR

00:54:04.333 --> 00:54:06.400
THIS, IT WILL NEVER. IT WILL
NEVER MATCH WHAT YOU WALKED

00:54:06.500 --> 00:54:09.299
THROUGH FOR ME. IT WILL NEVER
MATCH. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M

00:54:09.399 --> 00:54:13.167
SAYING? IT'S WHEN I WAS
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO PREACH

00:54:13.267 --> 00:54:16.133
ON DAYSTAR AND WAS
PREACHING ON REVELATION

00:54:16.233 --> 00:54:18.300
1211. IT SAYS THEY OVERCAME
HIM BY THE BLOOD OF THE

00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:21.133
LAMB AND THE WORD OF THEIR
TESTIMONY. WHAT A LOT OF

00:54:21.233 --> 00:54:23.500
PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS
THAT WORD TESTIMONY. WE

00:54:23.600 --> 00:54:25.300
TRANSLATE IT TO THE ENGLISH
WORD TESTIMONY. THE

00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:29.300
ORIGINAL WORD IS THE WORD
MARTURIA. IN GREEK IT MEANS

00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:32.233
MARTYRDOM, THE WORD OF
THEIR MARTYRDOM. WE THINK

00:54:32.333 --> 00:54:35.166
THE WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY
IS HOW GOD BAILED THEM OUT.

00:54:35.266 --> 00:54:37.200
AND THEY GOT SCOT FREE AND
GOT BLESSED. AND THEY GOT

00:54:37.300 --> 00:54:40.133
LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY
WAS LIKE, WOW. LIKE THE

00:54:40.233 --> 00:54:42.367
HANDS OF THE LORD IS ON,
YOU KNOW, THE WAY THEY

00:54:42.467 --> 00:54:45.200
OVERCAME THE ENEMY WAS BY
THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB AND

00:54:45.300 --> 00:54:48.100
SAYING, I'M WILLING TO
SPILL MY OWN BLOOD AND HOW

00:54:48.200 --> 00:54:50.199
CONFIDENT I AM IN THE BLOOD
OF THE LAMB. THESE PEOPLE

00:54:50.299 --> 00:54:53.233
WHO OVERCAME SATAN DIED
BECAUSE THEY WERE LIKE, YO,

00:54:54.166 --> 00:54:55.600
MY TREASURE IS NOT ON THIS
SIDE. MY TREASURE IS NOT IN

00:54:55.700 --> 00:54:59.166
THE HERE AND NOW. JESUS
SAYS, STORE UP FOR

00:54:59.266 --> 00:55:02.367
YOURSELVES TREASURES IN HEAVEN,
WHERE MOTH AND RUST AND THIEVES

00:55:02.467 --> 00:55:06.233
CANNOT BREAK IN AND STEAL LIKE
YOU KNOW WHERE. STORE UP FOR

00:55:06.333 --> 00:55:09.300
YOURSELVES. JESUS SAYS, YOU
KNOW, DON'T FEAR HIM WHO CAN

00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.367
ONLY KILL THE BODY, BUT CANNOT
KILL THE SOUL, BUT FEAR HIM WHO

00:55:12.367 --> 00:55:14.133
CAN KILL BOTH BODY AND SOUL IN
HELL?

00:55:14.233 --> 00:55:18.933
>> YEAH.
>> CONSTANTLY TRYING TO GET US

00:55:19.033 --> 00:55:21.933
OFF THIS PLANE, OFF THIS LIKE,
HEY, IN THIS, YOU KNOW, LITTLE,

00:55:22.033 --> 00:55:24.033
LITTLE, LITTLE PLACE WE TRY TO
LIVE OUR LIVES IN AND SAY,

00:55:24.133 --> 00:55:26.199
RECOGNIZE THERE'S A WHOLE
NOTHER REALM. THERE'S A WHOLE

00:55:26.299 --> 00:55:29.967
NOTHER. THAT'S WHAT I LOVE
ABOUT HEAVEN. HEAVEN IS GOING

00:55:30.067 --> 00:55:33.100
TO FEEL INFINITELY MORE REAL.
HAVE YOU EVER WOKEN UP FROM,

00:55:33.200 --> 00:55:37.000
LIKE, A DREAM? AND WHEN YOU
WAKE UP, YOU'RE LIKE, THAT FELT

00:55:37.100 --> 00:55:40.166
SO REAL WHILE I WAS IN IT. BUT
NOW THAT I'M AWAKE, I'M LIKE,

00:55:40.266 --> 00:55:44.066
YO, WHY WAS I SCARED? THAT WAS
SO WEIRD. LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL

00:55:44.166 --> 00:55:47.067
OF A SUDDEN I WAS IN MY IN MY
DREAM, I'M TALKING TO REBECCA.

00:55:47.167 --> 00:55:50.099
BUT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT
TURNS INTO RACHEL, AND THEN ALL

00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.033
OF A SUDDEN IT TURNS INTO MISS
JONI, AND IT'S LIKE. BUT I

00:55:53.133 --> 00:55:55.866
NEVER QUESTIONED IT IN THE
DREAM. YEAH, BUT NOW I'M LIKE,

00:55:55.966 --> 00:55:58.033
YO, THAT WAS WEIRD. LIKE,
THAT'S NOT REAL. THAT'S HOW

00:55:58.133 --> 00:56:01.200
HEAVEN'S GONNA FEEL. WE'RE
GONNA GET TO HEAVEN. BE LIKE,

00:56:01.300 --> 00:56:04.233
WHY WAS I EVER ANXIOUS? WHY WAS
I EVER DEPRESSED? WHY DID I

00:56:04.333 --> 00:56:07.999
EVER THINK NONE OF THIS WAS
GOING TO WORK OUT? THIS MY

00:56:08.099 --> 00:56:09.433
THE HE WHOSE EYES ARE A
FIRE. HIS HAIR IS WHITE AS

00:56:09.533 --> 00:56:12.133
WOOL. HIS FEET ARE OF
BURNISHED BRONZE. WAS

00:56:12.233 --> 00:56:15.000
ADVOCATING FOR ME, FOUGHT
FOR ME, DIED FOR ME, FILLED

00:56:15.100 --> 00:56:17.300
ME WITH HIS SPIRIT. WHY WAS
I EVER AFRAID? AND THAT'S

00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.066
WHAT HEAVEN'S GOING TO BE
LIKE. WHEN WE STEP ON THE

00:56:20.166 --> 00:56:22.999
OTHER SIDE. WE'RE GONNA BE
LIKE, MAN, THANK GOD I'M

00:56:23.099 --> 00:56:26.067
HERE. BUT WHY WAS I EVER
AFRAID WHILE I WAS THERE?

00:56:26.167 --> 00:56:28.000
HE IS.
>> WITH ME. IT'S SO TRUE. AND

00:56:28.100 --> 00:56:29.200
IT'S LIKE, CAN YOU. IT'S LIKE
YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE THAT

00:56:29.300 --> 00:56:31.966
REVELATION AND LIVE OUT OF IT
HERE.

00:56:32.066 --> 00:56:34.167
>> YOU DO.
>> I LOVE THAT YOU'RE BEING

00:56:34.267 --> 00:56:37.100
MOVED. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE
HOLY SPIRIT. YOU FEEL HIS

00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:40.000
PRESENCE IN THAT CONVICTION, IN
HIS WORD. AND IT'S LIKE WE NEED

00:56:40.100 --> 00:56:41.000
TO LIVE. IT'S LIKE THE
DISCIPLES LIVED OUT OF THAT

00:56:41.100 --> 00:56:43.266
HEAVENLY REVELATION.
>> YES.

00:56:43.366 --> 00:56:46.233
>> AND IT'S LIKE I'M ALWAYS
JUST LIKE, OKAY, THE BIBLE

00:56:46.333 --> 00:56:49.200
CONSTANTLY IS LIKE WE WALK BY
FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT. IT'S

00:56:49.300 --> 00:56:52.133
LIKE, PUT YOUR MIND ON THINGS
ABOVE, LIKE IN HEAVEN WHERE

00:56:52.233 --> 00:56:55.167
CHRIST IS SEATED. AND SO WE
NEED TO BE LIVING OUR LIVES

00:56:55.267 --> 00:56:58.233
MORE IN TUNE ALMOST WITH THAT.
YEAH. THAN HERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S

00:56:58.333 --> 00:57:02.133
SO EASY TO BE FIXATED ON HERE
AND NOW AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

00:57:02.233 --> 00:57:04.333
BUT WE HAVE A WHOLE ETERNITY IN
FRONT OF US. AND WHAT WE DO

00:57:04.433 --> 00:57:08.200
HERE AFFECTS WHAT HAPPENS IN
ETERNITY, BIG TIME, YOU KNOW,

00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:11.133
OR IT HAS AN IMPACT ON ETERNITY.
AND SO IT'S LIKE I AM ALWAYS

00:57:11.233 --> 00:57:15.099
THINKING I WANT TO MAKE ETERNAL
INVESTMENTS WITH MY LIFE. AND I

00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:17.300
THINK ABOUT YOU. IT'S LIKE
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WANT TO

00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:20.300
HAVE A CROWN TO LAY AT THE FEET
OF JESUS. AND I'M ALWAYS LIKE,

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:23.233
I DON'T. I KNOW I'M GOING TO
STAND BEFORE HIM. I'M GOING TO

00:57:23.333 --> 00:57:25.499
BE JUDGED NOT BY MY SIN,
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN FORGIVEN.

00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:28.199
YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THAT JUDGMENT. SINNERS

00:57:28.299 --> 00:57:30.066
WILL HAVE TO WHICH YOU CAN'T
EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT.

00:57:30.166 --> 00:57:33.166
>> THE GREAT, THE GREAT WHITE
THRONE.

00:57:33.266 --> 00:57:35.199
>> BUT WE WILL BE JUDGED ON
WHAT WE DID AND DID NOT DO.

00:57:35.299 --> 00:57:38.300
>> YEAH.
>> AND OUR MOTIVATIONS WITHIN

00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:42.033
EVEN WHAT WE DID WILL BE JUDGED
AS WELL. AND SO IT'S LIKE WHEN

00:57:42.133 --> 00:57:45.300
I STAND BEFORE GOD, I DON'T
WANT I WANT TO KNOW THAT. I

00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.033
WANT TO KNOW THAT I DID A GOOD
JOB. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE

00:57:49.133 --> 00:57:50.500
LIKE, WHY DIDN'T YOU OBEY ME ON
THIS? YOU KNOW? AND SO I'M

00:57:50.600 --> 00:57:51.900
TRYING TO LIVE WITH THAT
CONVICTION, KNOWING I'M GOING

00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:53.233
TO STAND BEFORE HIM ONE DAY AND
THAT ULTIMATELY, LIKE YOU SAID,

00:57:53.333 --> 00:57:54.533
YOU DON'T FEAR ANYONE BUT GOD.
THE ONE WHO CAN TAKE BODY AND

00:57:54.633 --> 00:57:55.866
SOUL, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S LIKE,
OKAY, THE ONLY ONE I SHOULD

00:57:55.966 --> 00:57:58.033
FEAR IS HIM. I NEED TO LIVE MY
LIFE TO PLEASE HIM. THAT'S THE

00:57:58.133 --> 00:58:01.233
MOST IMPORTANT THING. AND SO,
YEAH.

00:58:01.333 --> 00:58:06.233
>> THAT'S A VERSE THAT'S BEEN
HAUNTING ME RECENTLY. WHAT

00:58:06.333 --> 00:58:09.333
REVELATION 21. PEOPLE LOVE IT
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE COMFORTING.

00:58:09.433 --> 00:58:15.200
YEAH, BUT IT'S HAUNTING ME
BECAUSE IT SAYS IN REVELATION

00:58:15.300 --> 00:58:18.266
21, AND HE WILL WIPE AWAY EVERY
TEAR FROM THEIR EYE. HE'S NOT

00:58:18.366 --> 00:58:21.300
TALKING ABOUT STUFF YOU CRIED
ABOUT ON EARTH. WELL, THIS IS

00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:25.366
TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHEN WE ARE
IN HEAVEN, WE'RE IN ETERNITY.

00:58:25.466 --> 00:58:29.133
THERE WILL BE TEARS IN ETERNITY.
AND YOU KNOW WHY? IT'S BECAUSE

00:58:29.233 --> 00:58:32.333
REVELATION 21 COMES DIRECTLY
AFTER REVELATION 20, THE LAST

00:58:32.433 --> 00:58:36.233
VERSE OF REVELATION 20. THE
CHAPTER BEFORE IS. AND THEY

00:58:36.333 --> 00:58:39.233
WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT FOUND IN
THE LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE WERE

00:58:39.333 --> 00:58:44.200
THROWN INTO A LAKE OF FIRE.
>> OH, WOW.

00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:44.733
>> AND THEN YOU GET INTO. AND
HE WIPED AWAY EVERY TEAR FROM

00:58:44.833 --> 00:58:47.266
OUR EYE.
>> OH.

00:58:47.366 --> 00:58:49.199
>> I, I'VE.
>> NEVER HEARD ANYONE MAKE THAT

00:58:49.299 --> 00:58:52.267
CONNECTION.
>> MAKES SENSE. I'VE BEEN

00:58:52.367 --> 00:58:55.266
READING REVELATION RECENTLY AND
I SAW THAT AND I WAS LIKE, OH,

00:58:55.366 --> 00:58:58.367
WELL, THIS IS JUST KEENAN. I'M
NOT SAYING THIS, BUT THE ORDER

00:58:58.467 --> 00:59:03.300
THAT THINGS COME IN LEAD ME TO
BELIEVE. WILL WE HAVE TO WATCH?

00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.366
OH, GOD. AS PEOPLE, WE PASS BY,
AS OUR NEIGHBOR, AS THE PERSON

00:59:06.466 --> 00:59:09.267
WE WERE LIKE, NO, I DON'T WANT
TO SHARE JESUS WITH THEM. FIND

00:59:09.367 --> 00:59:12.333
THEIR PLACE IN A LAKE WHICH
BURNS WITH FIRE BECAUSE THEIR

00:59:12.433 --> 00:59:15.233
NAME IS NOT FOUND IN THE LAMB'S
BOOK OF LIFE. AND THANK GOD

00:59:15.333 --> 00:59:18.400
THAT GRIEF'S NOT FOREVER, BUT
WILL WE MOMENTARILY FILL THAT

00:59:18.500 --> 00:59:22.133
GRIEF, THE GRIEF OF THE HEART
OF GOD, WHERE THEY FIND THEIR

00:59:22.233 --> 00:59:25.200
PLACE IN ETERNAL DAMNATION,
WHERE THE WORM DIETH NOT WHERE

00:59:25.300 --> 00:59:28.333
THERE IS WEEPING AND GNASHING
OF TEETH, IS WHAT JESUS SAYS.

00:59:28.433 --> 00:59:31.200
AND WILL HE THEN COME WIPE AWAY
EVERY TEAR FROM OUR EYE? WE

00:59:31.300 --> 00:59:34.133
WILL FORGET THE FORMER THINGS
BECAUSE THEIR FORMER THINGS ARE

00:59:34.233 --> 00:59:37.166
BEHIND. DEATH IS NO MORE.
DEATH AND HADES HAVE BEEN

00:59:37.266 --> 00:59:39.399
THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE
AS WELL AS WHAT IT SAYS.

00:59:39.499 --> 00:59:42.299
BUT THAT THAT VERSE HAUNTS
ME OF WILL THERE BE TEARS

00:59:42.399 --> 00:59:45.267
IN OUR EYES BECAUSE OF THE
PEOPLE WE HAVE TO WATCH

00:59:46.200 --> 00:59:47.300
FIND THEIR PLACE IN A LAKE
WHICH BURNS WITH FIRE? I

00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.366
DON'T KNOW.
>> THAT'S WHY I THINK, I

00:59:50.466 --> 00:59:53.400
THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO THINK

00:59:53.500 --> 00:59:57.133
ABOUT THAT. THEY DON'T WANT NO
ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT HELL,

00:59:57.233 --> 00:59:59.199
YOU KNOW? BUT I REMEMBER WHEN
WE HAD THE GUY ON WHO, LIKE,

00:59:59.299 --> 01:00:02.233
SPENT 23 MINUTES IN HELL.
>> OH, WOW.

01:00:02.333 --> 01:00:04.466
>> AND HE KNOWS THE BIBLE SO
WELL. HE WILL JUST QUOTE HE

01:00:04.566 --> 01:00:07.233
KNOWS EVERY VERSE, I THINK
MEMORIZED ABOUT HELL BECAUSE OF

01:00:07.333 --> 01:00:10.267
HIS OWN EXPERIENCE. AND HE'S
JUST SO BIBLICALLY ACCURATE.

01:00:10.367 --> 01:00:13.166
BUT WHEN I HEARD HIS TESTIMONY,
I WAS JUST LIKE, YOU FEEL THAT

01:00:13.266 --> 01:00:13.799
WEIGHT? AND I THINK YOU FEEL
THAT WEIGHT TOO, AS AN

01:00:13.899 --> 01:00:16.433
EVANGELIST.
>> YEAH.

01:00:16.533 --> 01:00:19.233
>> BIG TIME. IT'S LIKE YOU FEEL
THE WEIGHT OF ETERNITY AND

01:00:19.333 --> 01:00:23.566
KNOWING THAT, LIKE, OUR
OBEDIENCE IS JUST SO IMPORTANT

01:00:23.666 --> 01:00:26.133
BECAUSE IT DOES IMPACT OTHERS.
AND I ALSO JUST THINK ABOUT I

01:00:26.233 --> 01:00:29.299
REMEMBER WHEN I WAS
INTERVIEWING TIM TIMBERLAKE AND

01:00:29.399 --> 01:00:33.567
HE HAD A DREAM WHERE HE SAW
BLOOD ON HIS HANDS, AND IT'S

01:00:33.667 --> 01:00:36.366
LIKE, YOU'LL BE BLOOD ON YOUR
HANDS FOR YOUR DISOBEDIENCE,

01:00:36.466 --> 01:00:39.166
BASICALLY. AND IT'S LIKE, KIND
OF LIKE THE DREAM THAT PIVOTED

01:00:39.266 --> 01:00:42.433
HIS WHOLE LIFE INTO MINISTRY
BECAUSE HE WAS PUSHING AWAY

01:00:42.533 --> 01:00:44.433
FROM IT. WOW. AND SO IT'S LIKE
WHAT? OUR OBEDIENCE DOES MATTER.

01:00:44.533 --> 01:00:47.366
AND OF COURSE, GOD IS A
MERCIFUL AND GRACIOUS GOD, AND

01:00:47.466 --> 01:00:48.500
HE'S BIGGER THAN US. BUT IT'S
LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE THIS

01:00:48.600 --> 01:00:51.333
SERIOUSLY.
>> BIG TIME.

01:00:51.433 --> 01:00:54.267
>> AND THAT'S WHY EVEN LIKE
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE,

01:00:54.367 --> 01:00:57.333
THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT, IT'S
LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE GIFTS OF

01:00:57.433 --> 01:01:00.366
THE SPIRIT AREN'T JUST FOR US.
THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT REALLY

01:01:00.466 --> 01:01:03.333
ARE FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE
KINGDOM BIG TIME. AND THAT'S

01:01:03.433 --> 01:01:06.300
WHY, LIKE, WE SHOULDN'T MAKE IT
ABOUT LIKE A CHURCH, JUST LIKE

01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.433
A CHURCH SERVICE. NOT SAYING
IT'S THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT, BUT

01:01:08.533 --> 01:01:11.600
IT'S LIKE IT'S FOR GOING
OUTSIDE THE WALLS OF THE CHURCH

01:01:12.300 --> 01:01:14.599
AND REACHING THE LOST. AND ALL
OF US SHOULD BE OPERATING THOSE

01:01:14.699 --> 01:01:17.566
GIFTS. IT'S NOT ABOUT, OH, LOOK,
I CAN LIKE A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE,

01:01:17.666 --> 01:01:20.333
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A SHOW THING.
IT'S NOTHING IS PROBABLY MORE

01:01:20.433 --> 01:01:23.233
IMPACTFUL THAN SHARING A WORD
OF KNOWLEDGE WITH THE LOST

01:01:23.333 --> 01:01:26.200
PERSON. AND I WILL SAY THIS
BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:29.199
WANTING TO MINISTER TO PEOPLE
ON THE STREETS WHEN I HAD DALE

01:01:29.299 --> 01:01:31.367
MARSDEN. HE SAYS HE ALWAYS
MAKES IT A POINT TO MINISTER TO

01:01:31.467 --> 01:01:32.400
PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH
BECAUSE HE SAYS IT KEEPS YOU

01:01:32.500 --> 01:01:35.367
GROUNDED.
>> YEAH, YEAH.

01:01:35.467 --> 01:01:38.267
>> FOR SURE. NORMAL, BECAUSE
PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH WILL KIND

01:01:38.367 --> 01:01:39.533
OF RIDE WITH YOU OR COURTESY
FALL FOR YOU SOMETIMES, BUT NOT

01:01:40.266 --> 01:01:43.266
LOST PEOPLE.
>> NO THEY DON'T.

01:01:43.366 --> 01:01:46.333
>> THEY WILL NOT. AND SO I
THINK IT'S SO I THINK IT'S SO

01:01:46.433 --> 01:01:48.566
GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO GO
OUTSIDE AND MINISTER TO THOSE

01:01:48.666 --> 01:01:51.467
WHO AREN'T IN THE CHURCH,
BECAUSE THEY THINK IT HELPS

01:01:51.567 --> 01:01:54.600
KEEP US HUMBLE AND GROUNDED.
>> YEAH, I THINK IT REMINDS YOU

01:01:54.700 --> 01:01:56.400
THAT LIKE, LIKE WE REALLY DO
HAVE A HARVEST. YEAH. YOU KNOW

01:01:56.500 --> 01:01:59.333
WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, IT'S LIKE,
NO.

01:01:59.433 --> 01:02:01.700
>> I'M NOT JUST CALLED TO
>> IT'S YOUR EYES OFF YOURSELF.

01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:04.500
MANAGE CHRISTIANS. I'M CALLED
TO MAKE CONVERTS AND DISCIPLES.

01:02:04.600 --> 01:02:07.466
RIGHT? YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M
CALLED TO GO OUT AND CONVERT

01:02:07.566 --> 01:02:10.433
THE WORLD. YEAH. AND SO, YEAH,
I THINK I THINK THAT'S AN

01:02:10.533 --> 01:02:13.667
IMPORTANT THING LIKE THAT. WE
DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. AND I

01:02:13.767 --> 01:02:16.400
THINK IN MOMENTS OF MY LIFE
I'VE BEEN GUILTY OF THAT, LIKE

01:02:16.500 --> 01:02:19.300
NOT BEING TENDER.
>> SAME I THINK ALL OF US HAVE.

01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.533
>> WHERE IT'S JUST LIKE LIKE I
REMEMBER ASKING MY PASTOR

01:02:21.633 --> 01:02:24.533
RECENTLY, I SAID, I'M BOTHERED
THAT I'M NOT BOTHERED THAT

01:02:24.633 --> 01:02:28.300
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HELL. LIKE,
IT BOTHERS ME THAT IT DOESN'T

01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:31.300
BOTHER ME. AND I JUST HAD TO
GET HONEST WITH HIM. LIKE I WAS

01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:33.500
FEELING LIKE, MAN, I JUST I'M
NOT THAT MOVED OR GRIEVED BY

01:02:33.600 --> 01:02:37.366
THIS. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT
RIGHT. AND HE WAS VERY

01:02:37.466 --> 01:02:40.533
COMFORTING TO ME. HE REMINDED
ME THAT LIKE, OF COURSE, LIKE

01:02:40.633 --> 01:02:43.533
THE LORD KNOWS YOU ARE A DAD,
YOU ARE A HUSBAND. IF YOU WERE

01:02:44.333 --> 01:02:46.267
TO FEEL THE WEIGHT OF THAT
NONSTOP, YOU WOULD BE TEMPTED

01:02:46.367 --> 01:02:49.267
TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THE
RESPONSIBILITIES OF BEING A

01:02:49.367 --> 01:02:52.267
FATHER AND A HUSBAND, BECAUSE
YOU GOT TO GO WIN SOULS, YOU

01:02:52.367 --> 01:02:56.266
KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT SINCE
THEN, HE'S ENCOURAGED ME. ASK

01:02:56.366 --> 01:02:59.400
THE LORD FOR THAT BURDEN. YEAH.
AND IT'S PROPER MEASURE FOR YOU.

01:02:59.500 --> 01:03:02.666
AND I BEGAN, THAT'S WISDOM. I
ASKED THE LORD. LORD, GIVE ME A

01:03:02.766 --> 01:03:06.433
BURDEN FOR PEOPLE GOING TO HELL
THAT IS RIGHT FOR ME LIKE THAT.

01:03:06.533 --> 01:03:11.366
THAT THAT IS THAT IS THE PROPER
BURDEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

01:03:11.466 --> 01:03:12.700
AND I CAN SAY THE LORD HAS BEEN
DOING THAT. THE LORD HAS BEEN

01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:15.499
GRIEVING MY HEART. I REMEMBER
SITTING ON AN AIRPLANE RECENTLY

01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:18.533
AND HAVING TO LOOK OUT THE
WINDOW JUST BECAUSE, LIKE TEARS

01:03:18.633 --> 01:03:20.533
WERE COMING DOWN MY FACE AS I
WAS THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE I

01:03:20.633 --> 01:03:23.366
KNOW PERSONALLY WHO MAY NOT
MAKE IT.

01:03:23.466 --> 01:03:26.400
>> YEAH.
>> LIKE THEY MAY NOT. THEY MAY

01:03:26.500 --> 01:03:29.366
GIVE LIKE THEY MAY HAVE RAISED
A HALF MAST HAND TO HEAVEN.

01:03:29.466 --> 01:03:31.600
THEY MAY ACT LIKE, OH, I LOVE
JESUS, BUT THEY LOVE THEIR

01:03:31.700 --> 01:03:34.600
JESUS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY
LOVE THE JESUS OF THE

01:03:34.700 --> 01:03:37.399
SCRIPTURES. HE DOES NOT HAVE
THE HIGHEST VOICE IN THEIR LIFE,

01:03:37.499 --> 01:03:40.433
THE FRUITS OF SALVATION. I
DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THEM AND

01:03:40.533 --> 01:03:43.400
IT MAKES ME WONDER, LIKE, WOULD
THEY MAKE IT LIKE, ARE THEY FOR

01:03:43.500 --> 01:03:46.400
REAL SAVED? I DON'T KNOW, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU CAN

01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:49.367
YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE LITTLE
PLEASANTRIES OF LIKE, OH, I DID

01:03:49.467 --> 01:03:51.566
THE LITTLE SONG AND DANCE OF,
YOU KNOW, WALKING, YOU KNOW,

01:03:51.666 --> 01:03:53.566
PRAYING THE LITTLE PRAYER.
>> YEAH. I'M LIKE PRAYING. THAT

01:03:53.666 --> 01:03:55.733
LITTLE PRAYER IS NOT THE ONLY
THING, YOU.

01:03:55.833 --> 01:03:57.567
>> KNOW, LIKE DID. IS CHRIST
REALLY YOUR LORD?

01:03:57.667 --> 01:04:00.566
>> YEAH.
>> IS HE YOUR PORTION?

01:04:00.666 --> 01:04:03.567
>> ARE YOU SURRENDERED TO HIM?
BECAUSE, I MEAN, THERE'S THAT.

01:04:03.667 --> 01:04:06.800
JESUS TELLS THAT PARABLE IN THE
BIBLE OF THE SEEDS AND HOW,

01:04:06.900 --> 01:04:09.666
LIKE THE SEEDS, IT'S LIKE SOME
GO INTO THE ROCKY SOIL, SOME

01:04:09.766 --> 01:04:12.733
ARE TAKEN UP BY THE BIRDS. AND
IT'S BASICALLY SAYING LIKE

01:04:12.833 --> 01:04:15.533
PEOPLE WHO NEWLY GET SAVED, BUT
THEN THEY GET SNATCHED OUT AND.

01:04:15.633 --> 01:04:17.766
>> CARES OF THIS WORLD.
>> IT'S JUST THE FIRST STEP,

01:04:17.866 --> 01:04:20.833
YOU KNOW, TO A LIFE IN
SUBMISSION. AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

01:04:20.933 --> 01:04:23.733
IT'S LIKE, IS HE YOUR LORD? YOU
KNOW, LIKE, ARE YOU SUBMITTED

01:04:23.833 --> 01:04:26.600
TO HIM? IT'S SO TRUE.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT

01:04:26.700 --> 01:04:29.600
JAMES IS SAYING WHEN JAMES SAYS
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.

01:04:29.700 --> 01:04:33.633
YEAH, JAMES, YOU KNOW THEY'RE
NOT. PEOPLE WANT TO BE LIKE PIT

01:04:33.733 --> 01:04:37.433
JAMES VERSUS PAUL, RIGHT? BUT
JAMES IS NOT IN DISCORDANCE

01:04:37.533 --> 01:04:41.533
WITH PAUL. JAMES IS SAYING LIKE,
HEY, YOU CAN'T PRETEND LIKE YOU

01:04:41.633 --> 01:04:44.499
HAVE FAITH AND NOT LET YOUR
LIFE SHOW IT. LIKE YOU CAN'T

01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.533
PRETEND LIKE THAT, DUDE. LIKE
THAT'S THAT'S THAT IS THAT

01:04:47.633 --> 01:04:49.600
FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD.
THAT FAITH YOU CLAIM TO HAVE,

01:04:49.700 --> 01:04:52.699
IT'S DEAD. LIKE YOU'RE NOT
WILLING TO LIVE IT.

01:04:52.799 --> 01:04:55.766
>> BUT THAT GOES BACK INTO
PEOPLE TRY TO MAKE THAT. WELL,

01:04:55.866 --> 01:04:58.399
THAT'S LEGALISTIC OR SOMETHING.
AND JAMES IS NOT A LEGALISTIC

01:04:58.499 --> 01:05:01.533
BOOK AT ALL. IT'S WISDOM
LITERATURE ACTUALLY. BUT ALL

01:05:01.633 --> 01:05:03.833
THAT BEING SAID, I ACTUALLY
FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT VERSE,

01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:06.733
LIKE JUST RECENTLY. AND I
REALIZED IF YOU ACTUALLY

01:05:06.833 --> 01:05:09.900
BELIEVE SOMETHING, IT WILL BE
APPARENT IN YOUR ACTIONS BIG

01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.833
TIME. BECAUSE IF I BELIEVE IT'S
RAINING OUTSIDE, THEN I'LL HAVE

01:05:12.933 --> 01:05:15.633
AN UMBRELLA OR I'LL RUN TO MY
CAR IF I DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE

01:05:15.733 --> 01:05:18.700
IT'S RAINING, RIGHT, I'M NOT
GOING TO CHANGE MY ACTIONS THEN

01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:21.766
IF IT WAS SUNNY. YEAH, SO IT'S
THE SAME THING. IF YOU REALLY

01:05:21.866 --> 01:05:24.666
BELIEVE JESUS IS YOUR LORD AND
SAVIOR. IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE

01:05:24.766 --> 01:05:26.766
THAT YOU FEAR GOD, IF YOU
REALLY BELIEVE HELL IS A REAL

01:05:26.866 --> 01:05:29.500
PLACE, IT WILL SHOW IN YOUR
ACTIONS.

01:05:29.600 --> 01:05:32.533
>> BIG TIME.
>> AND SO THAT'S REALLY JUST A

01:05:32.633 --> 01:05:34.599
TRUE STATEMENT. BIG TIME. FAITH
WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD, AND

01:05:34.699 --> 01:05:38.533
WORKS ARE A FRUIT FROM YOUR
FAITH.

01:05:38.633 --> 01:05:40.633
>> YEAH. BIG TIME. YEAH. NO, I
DON'T GET ME ALL STARTED ON.

01:05:40.733 --> 01:05:44.533
YEAH, YEAH.
>> NO, WE HAVE TO WRAP. WE'RE

01:05:44.633 --> 01:05:47.733
LIKE. THEY LIKE, CAME OVER HERE.
HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN GOING?

01:05:47.833 --> 01:05:48.800
>> IT HAS BEEN GREAT. NO, I
COULD TALK TO YOU ALL DAY. THIS

01:05:48.900 --> 01:05:51.733
HAS BEEN.
>> WELL.

01:05:51.833 --> 01:05:54.566
>> YOU'LL HAVE TO COME BACK.
YOU'RE A KINDRED SPIRIT. I FEEL

01:05:54.666 --> 01:05:57.633
LIKE WE KIND OF BURN FOR THE
SAME STUFF, SO.

01:05:57.733 --> 01:06:00.767
>> NO, HONESTLY, IT KIND OF. I
WAS LIKE, THIS JUST IS LIKE A

01:06:00.867 --> 01:06:03.733
REALLY EASY CONVERSATION. AND I
KIND OF JUST TURNED IT INTO,

01:06:03.833 --> 01:06:06.633
I'M GLAD WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
FASTING. I FEEL LIKE WE DID HIT

01:06:06.733 --> 01:06:09.800
ON IT. WELL, NO.
>> AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS I

01:06:09.900 --> 01:06:12.733
TOLD YOU PRIOR TO THE PODCAST,
I WAS LIKE, WE MAY TALK ABOUT

01:06:12.833 --> 01:06:15.600
FASTING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO
WHERE THE SPIRIT LEADS LIKE WE

01:06:15.700 --> 01:06:17.933
DO NOT APPRECIATE.
>> YOU KNOW? BUT I JUST, YOU

01:06:18.033 --> 01:06:20.866
KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS. I
WAS LIKE, THERE'S LIKE FIVE

01:06:20.966 --> 01:06:22.700
MORE TRAILS. I HONESTLY WANT TO
GO DOWN. BUT MY MIND IS LIKE,

01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:23.633
OKAY, YOU GOT TO START WRAPPING.
>> YEAH.

01:06:23.733 --> 01:06:25.766
>> YOU HAVE.
>> TO.

01:06:25.866 --> 01:06:28.633
>> LIKE YOU HAVE TO COME BACK
THOUGH.

01:06:28.733 --> 01:06:29.900
>> I WOULD LOVE THAT. I'D BE
HONORED TO COME BACK ON. THANK

01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:31.866
YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> YEAH. FOR SURE. IS THERE ANY,

01:06:31.966 --> 01:06:33.967
LIKE, FINAL ENCOURAGEMENT YOU
JUST WANT TO SAY TO THE PERSON

01:06:34.067 --> 01:06:36.567
WHO'S WATCHING THAT, MAYBE WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST STIRRING

01:06:36.667 --> 01:06:38.833
SOMETHING WITHIN THEIR SPIRIT.
>> YEAH, I FEEL THE LORD SAYING

01:06:38.933 --> 01:06:41.666
THIS. IT'S TIME TO GO. ALL IN.
AMEN. TIME TO GO ALL IN. NONE

01:06:41.766 --> 01:06:44.767
OF THIS HALFWAY HALF STUFF. THE
DEVIL OWNS THE FENCE. IT'S TIME

01:06:44.867 --> 01:06:47.600
TO GO ALL THE WAY IN. WHY WOULD
YOU WANT TO DO THIS LIFE OF

01:06:47.700 --> 01:06:51.766
FOLLOWING CHRIST? BUT THEN
HALFWAY DO IT. YOU RECEIVE A

01:06:51.866 --> 01:06:55.566
HALFWAY BLESSING. YOU WANT THE
FULL THING GO ALL THE WAY IN.

01:06:55.666 --> 01:06:58.566
AND THAT INCLUDES THE PRAYING
AND THE FASTING. LIKE, YOU KNOW,

01:06:58.666 --> 01:07:00.800
I TOLD MY WIFE A WHILE BACK,
LIKE, YO, IF WE'RE GOING TO

01:07:00.900 --> 01:07:02.700
DO THIS, WE'RE GONNA GO ALL
THE WAY. YEAH, WE'RE JUST

01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:04.666
GONNA BELIEVE WHAT THE
BIBLE SAYS. YEAH. IF LIKE,

01:07:04.766 --> 01:07:06.733
WE'RE GOING TO BE BIBLE
PEOPLE, LET'S BE BIBLE

01:07:06.833 --> 01:07:08.766
PEOPLE. LET'S JUST COMMIT
TO LIKE, I DON'T CARE WHO

01:07:08.866 --> 01:07:12.667
THINKS WE'RE CRAZY. I DON'T
CARE WHO THINKS WE'RE

01:07:12.767 --> 01:07:15.933
WHATEVER. WE WE'RE WE'RE
NOT GOING TO BE THE HALFWAY

01:07:16.033 --> 01:07:19.666
CHRISTIANS. AND I WOULD
JUST ENCOURAGE SOMEBODY,

01:07:19.766 --> 01:07:22.699
TODAY IS A GREAT DAY TO GO
ALL THE WAY. TODAY IS A

01:07:22.799 --> 01:07:25.667
GREAT DAY TO DO THE RIGHT
DAY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

01:07:25.767 --> 01:07:28.733
AND RIGHT NOW IS A GREAT
MOMENT TO JUST SAY, LORD, I

01:07:28.833 --> 01:07:32.666
REALLY DO FEEL LIKE I'VE
BEEN LIVING THIS, THIS

01:07:32.766 --> 01:07:34.833
LUKEWARM LIFE, THIS
LAODICEAN LIFE. THAT WAS

01:07:34.933 --> 01:07:37.633
HIS REBUKE OF THE CHURCH OF
LAODICEA IN THE BOOK OF

01:07:37.733 --> 01:07:41.066
REVELATIONS. REVELATION
THREE, HE SAYS, I'LL SPEW

01:07:41.066 --> 01:07:43.833
YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH BECAUSE
YOU'RE LUKEWARM. I DON'T

01:07:43.933 --> 01:07:46.033
WANT TO LIVE A LUKEWARM
LIFE. AND I HAVE A REAL

01:07:46.133 --> 01:07:49.033
STRONG HUNCH THAT YOU DON'T
EITHER. AND SO TODAY IS A

01:07:49.133 --> 01:07:51.100
DAY WHERE IT SAYS, GOD, I
WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY. AND

01:07:51.200 --> 01:07:54.833
YES, THAT DOES MEAN THINGS
YOU BELIEVE, BUT IT ALSO

01:07:54.933 --> 01:07:57.133
SHOWS UP IN THE POSTURES OF
YOUR LIFE. IT SHOWS UP IN

01:07:57.233 --> 01:07:59.033
THE POSTURES OF YOUR
ROUTINE. IT SHOWS UP IN THE

01:07:59.133 --> 01:08:02.067
POSTURES OF THE PLACES
YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE A

01:08:02.167 --> 01:08:06.133
STAND AND SAY, NO, I'M NOT
BACKING DOWN ON THIS. LIKE

01:08:06.233 --> 01:08:09.933
WHOEVER THIS JESUS SAID
THIS, WHO IS MY MOTHER? WHO ARE

01:08:10.033 --> 01:08:12.967
MY BROTHERS? THEY THAT DO THE
WILL OF MY FATHER? THAT'S MY

01:08:13.067 --> 01:08:15.267
FAMILY. THAT'S KIND OF GANGSTER.
YEAH. LIKE FOR JESUS TO SAY,

01:08:15.367 --> 01:08:18.066
HEY, YOUR MOTHER AND BROTHER
OUTSIDE, THEY SAY THAT TO JESUS.

01:08:18.166 --> 01:08:21.100
AND JESUS GOES, WHO EVEN IS MY
MOTHER? WHO EVEN ARE MY

01:08:21.200 --> 01:08:24.233
BROTHERS? THEY THAT DO THE WILL
OF MY FATHER. THAT'S THE PLACE

01:08:24.333 --> 01:08:26.266
WE GOT TO GET. AND I'M NOT
TRYING TO PLANT REBELLION

01:08:26.366 --> 01:08:28.366
IN THE HEARTS OF PEOPLE WHO
SAY, MY MOM AND MY DAD,

01:08:28.466 --> 01:08:31.033
THEY'RE LIKE, NOT FULL BORE
AFTER JESUS. THEY'RE NOT MY

01:08:31.133 --> 01:08:34.200
REAL PARENTS. YOU HONOR
YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER, BUT

01:08:34.300 --> 01:08:38.933
AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE
THIS SOLD OUT, YOUR HIGHEST,

01:08:39.033 --> 01:08:43.033
YOUR HIGHEST LOYALTY AND
ALLEGIANCE IS TO CHRIST.

01:08:43.133 --> 01:08:46.066
AND TODAY IS A GREAT DAY TO,
FOR REAL, COMMIT TO LIVING

01:08:46.166 --> 01:08:49.000
IN LINE WITH HIS SPIRIT AND
LIVING IN LINE WITH THE

01:08:49.100 --> 01:08:51.133
SCRIPTURES. YEAH, SO THAT'S
WHY I'D LEAVE PEOPLE WITH.

01:08:51.233 --> 01:08:52.933
>> YEAH. CAN YOU JUST PRAY
FOR THAT PERSON? YEAH. AND

01:08:53.033 --> 01:08:55.066
THEN WE'LL WRAP.
>> YEAH. LET'S PRAY. LORD,

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I THANK YOU FOR THE PERSON
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

01:08:58.100 --> 01:09:00.200
SCREEN. LORD, I THANK YOU
THAT YOU LOVE THEM. LORD,

01:09:00.300 --> 01:09:03.100
THAT YOU SEE THEM, LORD,
THAT THEY ARE NOT FAR FROM

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YOUR SIGHT. THEY'RE NOT FAR
FROM YOUR MIND, LORD, THAT

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YOU DON'T HAVE SOME PLAN
FOR THEIR LIFE THAT YOU

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SCRIBBLED ON A NAPKIN. LORD,
THAT THE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE

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FOR THEIR LIFE WAS IT WAS
WRITTEN AND FORMED AND

01:09:12.267 --> 01:09:15.066
KNOWN BY YOU BEFORE THE
FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD

01:09:15.166 --> 01:09:17.933
HAD EVEN BEEN LAID. AND
LORD, RIGHT NOW, IN THE

01:09:18.033 --> 01:09:21.133
MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS, I
THANK YOU. I CANCEL THE

01:09:21.233 --> 01:09:23.200
ASSIGNMENT OF HELL ON THEIR
LIFE. I TELL EVERY DEMONIC

01:09:23.300 --> 01:09:26.099
PRINCIPALITY, POWER,
SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN

01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:29.000
HIGH PLACES. I TELL YOU,
YOU HAVE TO LEAVE NOW. IN

01:09:29.100 --> 01:09:31.066
JESUS MIGHTY NAME. I
SILENCE THE VOICE OF THE

01:09:31.166 --> 01:09:34.967
ACCUSER. WE SPEAK
CONDEMNATION BE GONE

01:09:35.067 --> 01:09:38.099
BECAUSE THEY BELONG TO
CHRIST IN JESUS NAME. I'M

01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.033
ASKING FOR FAITH TO ARISE
IN THEIR HEART. I'M ASKING

01:09:41.133 --> 01:09:43.300
FOR CLARITY TO BE GIVEN TO
THEIR SPIRIT. I'M ASKING

01:09:43.400 --> 01:09:46.166
FOR THEM TO DESIRE THE
THINGS OF THE WORD, DESIRE

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THE THINGS OF THE LORD AND
LORD. I THANK YOU THAT AS

01:09:49.066 --> 01:09:52.900
THEY HUNGER AND THIRST FOR
RIGHTEOUSNESS, THEY SHALL

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BE FILLED IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME,
AMEN.

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>> AMEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR