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REBECCA WEISS:
ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

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I'M HERE WITH
NICHOLAS BOWLING.

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AND THIS IS COOL, GUYS,
BECAUSE I LOVE YOUTUBE,

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I WATCH YOUTUBE VIDEOS,
I LOVE EVANGELISM.

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AND I SAW YOUR VIDEOS,
AND I WAS IMMEDIATELY STRUCK

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WITH TWO THINGS.


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ONE, YOUR ABILITY TO
PREACH THE GOSPEL.

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BUT TWO, EVEN MORE, WAS
YOUR ABILITY TO STAY CALM

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IN VERY TENSE SITUATIONS
AND LIKE HAVE NO FEAR OF MAN.

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AND HAVING SUCH A BOLDNESS BUT
YET SUCH A CALMNESS AND A PEACE.

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AND SO I WAS LIKE,
I REACHED OUT TO MY PRODUCER,

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AND I
WAS LIKE, HEY,

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LET'S SEE IF WE CAN
INTERVIEW THIS GUY,

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AND NOW YOU'RE HERE, SO
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

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NICHOLAS BOWLING: YEAH,
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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NICHOLAS: AND
ALL GLORY TO HIM.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN
DOING THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS NOW?

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NICHOLAS: YEAH.


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MAN, THAT'S A
GREAT QUESTION.

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PEOPLE ASK ME THIS OFTEN.


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YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD FIGURE
OUT HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN.

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I WANT TO SAY MAYBE SEVEN YEARS,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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SIX OR SEVEN YEARS,


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IF WE SCROLLED BACK
TO OUR FIRST YOUTUBE VIDEO.

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BUT EVEN BEFORE THEN,
I WAS DOING A LITTLE BIT,

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JUST SOME FACEBOOK TEACHINGS
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

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SO, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE
SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS.

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REBECCA: SO YOU
JUST STARTED POSTING,

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NOT REALLY THINKING MUCH
ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD TURN INTO.

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NICHOLAS: YEAH, YEAH.


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I DEFINITELY WASN'T
THINKING LIKE, HEY, GUYS,

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LET'S TRY TO GET BIG AND
TRY TO REACH MILLIONS.

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THAT WASN'T REALLY
MY THINKING.

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I WAS JUST REALLY TRYING
TO SERVE THE LOCAL CHURCH

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THAT I WAS IN.


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AND THEN THE LORD
HAD OTHER PLANS.

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REBECCA: BUT YOU KNOW
WHAT I LIKE ABOUT YOUR VIDEOS

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IS BECAUSE THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE
WHO DO STREET EVANGELISM

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AND UPLOAD IT.


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WHAT I LIKE ABOUT YOU IS,
YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO

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GO IN AND LIKE GET A RISE
OUT OF PEOPLE OR RUFFLE FEATHERS

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BY GOING INTO
CONTROVERSIAL SITUATIONS.

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YOU GO INTO DARK PLACES AND
JUST SHINE THE LIGHT OF JESUS.

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AND I LOVE THAT ABOUT YOU.


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I FEEL LIKE THAT'S
LIKE THE HEART OF GOD.

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AND SO THAT WAS
ONE OF THE REASONS

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WHY I WANTED TO
HAVE YOU ON.

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BUT YEAH, GUYS, WE'LL LINK
HIS CHANNEL IN THE DESCRIPTION,

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BUT YOU'RE
GOING ALL OVER TO SO MANY

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DIFFERENT KINDS OF PLACES
AND PREACHING THE WORD

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AND HAVING THIS CALM.


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HOW DO YOU NOT GET --
HOW DO YOU LIKE,

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WHEN YOU'RE IN
THE GAY PRIDE PARADES

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AND ALL THESE
PEOPLE ARE ATTACKING YOU,

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HOW DO YOU
STAY CALM?

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NICHOLAS: YEAH.


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WELL, IT'S REALLY A FRUIT
OF THE SPIRIT, HONESTLY.

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I HAD A PROPHET
COME TO OUR CHURCH

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AND HE HAD WATCHED ONE OF
OUR VIDEOS, AND HE SAID,

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HE GAVE VERBIAGE TO
WHAT I WAS FEELING,

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BUT HE SAID IT'S ALMOST
LIKE A BUBBLE OF PEACE,

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LIKE YOU'RE IN A
BUBBLE OF PEACE.

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AND IT REALLY IS.


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TO GO IN THOSE
PLACES, FIRST OFF,

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THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT
ARE SUPERNATURAL.

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LIKE THIS ISN'T JUST
A NORMAL PATIENCE.

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IT'S NOT JUST
A NORMAL PEACE,

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NOT JUST A NORMAL
GENTLENESS.

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THEY'RE ACTUALLY
SUPERNATURAL

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AND THEY'RE THE FRUITS OF GOD,


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THE FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.


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SO IN THOSE MOMENTS,
IT'S AMAZING TO ME THE PATIENCE,

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THE SUPERNATURAL PATIENCE
THAT IS ALMOST TANGIBLE,

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AND EVEN THE PEACE.


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BUT HONESTLY EVEN THE
COMPASSION OF GOD,

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OFTENTIMES, WHEN THOSE
PEOPLE EVEN ARE SCREAMING AT ME

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IN MY FACE OR WE
WERE AT ONE PRIDE EVENT

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AND THERE WAS LIKE
A CROWD AROUND US,

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AND THERE WAS A GIRL
JUST LITERALLY SCREAMING

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AS LOUD AS SHE
COULD IN MY EARS,

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EVEN IN THOSE MOMENTS TO SENSE
THE COMPASSION OF THE LORD,

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IT'S LIKE THIS
OVERWHELMING THING

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OF NOT JUST I'M TRYING SO HARD
NOT TO PUNCH SOMEONE

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IN THE FACE, BUT IT'S
LITERALLY THIS COMPASSION

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I CAN FEEL FOR PEOPLE, AND
IT'S REALLY GOD REVEALING

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HIS HEART FOR THOSE PEOPLE
AND THEN HELPING ME

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IN THOSE MOMENTS.


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PAUL SAID, IT'S
NO LONGER I LIVE,

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BUT CHRIST WHO
LIVES IN ME.

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SO IT'S JESUS LIVING
IN AND THROUGH ME.

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THERE'S ANOTHER VERSE THAT
TALKS ABOUT BASICALLY LIKE

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WE'VE DIED SO THAT
THE LIFE OF CHRIST

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CAN BASICALLY
LIVE THROUGH US.

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SO IT'S REALLY JESUS IN ME
THAT'S DOING ALL THOSE THINGS.

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AND I GUESS MANIFESTING,
REVEALING HIMSELF IN THOSE WAYS.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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I CAN ACTUALLY LIKE, WHEN
I FIRST SAW YOU, EVEN NOW,

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YOU HAVE THE PEACE
OF GOD IN YOU.

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LIKE YOU CAN SEE IT.


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IT'S AMAZING.


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BECAUSE YOU CAN'T --
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING,

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LIKE YOU SAID, YOU
CAN'T MANUFACTURE IT,

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YOU'RE NOT DOING IT OUT OF
YOUR OWN WILL OR STRENGTH.

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IT'S SOMETHING, THE
FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT

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IS A BYPRODUCT OF
ABIDING IN HIM,

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AND THEN THIS HOLY SPIRIT
PRODUCES THAT FRUIT IN US.

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IT'S NOT SOMETHING
LIKE, OKAY,

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I'M GOING TO STAY CALM
IN THIS SITUATION.

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YOU EITHER HAVE
IT OR YOU DON'T.

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SO WHEN YOU'RE WALKING INTO
THOSE SITUATIONS, IT'S THERE.

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AND THERE'S A SUPERNATURAL
GRACE, AS WELL,

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WHICH I THINK
IS JUST AMAZING.

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BUT WHAT I LOVE WHAT
YOU SAID ABOUT COMPASSION

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IS THAT WHEN YOU STUDY
JESUS AND THE GOSPELS,

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TIME AND TIME
AGAIN, IT SAYS,

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HE WAS MOVED
WITH COMPASSION,

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AND THEN JESUS WOULD ALWAYS
GO TO MINISTER INTO THE PEOPLE.

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SO THAT IS THAT SAME
THING THAT MOVED JESUS

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TO MINISTER TO PEOPLE WHILE HE
WAS DOING HIS MINISTRY ON EARTH.

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SO THAT'S SUCH
LIKE A COOL THING.

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NICHOLAS: AMEN, AMEN.


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REBECCA:
THAT CONNECTION.

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NICHOLAS: YEAH.


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ANOTHER THING LIKE IN
THOSE MOMENTS, OFTENTIMES,

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THERE ARE RELIGIOUS
PEOPLE WHO COME UP.

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AND IT'S NOT THAT
THE PEACE GOES

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WHEN THE RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITES
START TO COME UP,

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BUT IT'S THIS ALMOST
RIGHTEOUS ANGER,

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LIKE JESUS FLIPPED THE
TABLES IN THE TEMPLE.

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IT'S THE SAME JESUS THAT WAS
SHOWING SUCH MERCY

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AND COMPASSION WITH THE WOMAN
COMMITTING ADULTERY

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OR THE WOMAN
AT THE WELL.

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BUT THERE IS THIS
RIGHTEOUS ANGER,

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THIS LION OF JUDAH-TYPE
THING THAT COMES OUT

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WHEN IT IS THE RELIGIOUS
HYPOCRITES WHO KNOW BETTER,

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WHO ARE
TEACHING SOMETHING,

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AND THEN THEY'RE
LIVING A LIFESTYLE.

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REALLY, IT GETS DOWN TO,
WE TALKED EARLIER

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ON A DIFFERENT SHOW, ABOUT
HOW GOD IS A JEALOUS GOD.

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SO GOD IS JEALOUS TO
DRAW PEOPLE TO HIM.

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AND WHEN PEOPLE
ARE DELIBERATELY

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LEADING PEOPLE AWAY FROM HIM,
THERE IS A RIGHTEOUS ANGER

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THAT RISES UP BECAUSE
GOD WANTS HIM TO COME.

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SO IT DOESN'T
HAPPEN A LOT,

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BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE MAYBE
IT IS A RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITE,

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AND THEN THAT
RIGHTEOUS ANGER SIDE OF JESUS

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ENDS UP COMING OUT.


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REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE
THOSE PEOPLE ARE HINDERING

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THE LOST COMING TO JESUS.


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SO THAT LIKE MOVES
THE HEART OF GOD.

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IT ANGERS GOD, BECAUSE
IT'S LIKE THEY'RE BEING

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A BLOCKADE TO THE MINISTRY
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
JESUS SAYS IN SCRIPTURE

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TO THE PHARISEES, BECAUSE
HE WAS STERN WITH THEM,

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HE WAS STERN WITH THEM BECAUSE
THEY HAD THIS ROLE

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AS A MINISTER


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AND THEY
WERE HINDERING PEOPLE,

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THEY WEREN'T HELPING THEM.


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AND ONE OF THE THINGS
JESUS SAYS IS HE SAYS,

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YOU PUT HEAVY BURDENS
ON PEOPLE'S BACKS,

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BUT YOU DO NOTHING
TO LIFT A FINGER

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TO EVEN HELP
GET THE BURDEN OFF,

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SAYING YOU'RE
PUTTING ALL THESE

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LIKE EXTRA WORKS AND
MAKING PEOPLE DO MORE

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AND ALL THESE BURDENS OF
RELIGION ON PEOPLE'S BACKS,

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BUT YOU'RE NOT EVEN
USING YOUR OWN STRENGTH

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TO HELP LIFT THAT BURDEN, AND
THAT'S WHAT RELIGION DOES.

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IT'S MAKING PEOPLE JUMP
THROUGH HOOPS TO REACH GOD

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WHEN IN REALITY,
THE SON OF GOD, JESUS,

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DID EVERYTHING TO
OPEN THE WAY FOR US.

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HE DID THE HARD WORK.


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WE HUMBLE OURSELVES
AND COME BEFORE HIM.

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AND SO THAT'S WHAT
I LOVE, THE GOSPEL,

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THE GOSPEL OF GRACE IS THAT
NO MATTER HOW LOST YOU ARE,

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GOD HAS A
HEART FOR THESE PEOPLE,

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AND HE WANTS THEM TO COME,
AND HE'S OPENED UP THE WAY

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THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS
SON, THE LIFE, DEATH,

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AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS.


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NICHOLAS: AMEN.


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HE'S SO AMAZING.


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HE'S SO GOOD.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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SO I WANT TO GET
INTO YOUR STORY,

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BECAUSE I WAS DEFINITELY
-- I LOVED IT

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AND I WAS SURPRISED
HEARING YOUR BACKGROUND.

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SO YOU WERE RAISED
CATHOLIC MOSTLY.

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CAN YOU TALK ABOUT
GROWING UP AND STUFF?

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NICHOLAS: YEAH, YEAH.


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SO I GREW UP, AND BOTH SIDES OF
MY FAMILY WERE CATHOLIC.

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MY DAD'S, MY MOM'S.


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ON MY DAD'S SIDE, I HAVE
MULTIPLE GREAT UNCLES

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WHO WERE PRIESTS AND
MULTIPLE GREAT AUNTS

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WHO WERE ACTUALLY NUNS
IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH.

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SO I GREW UP GOING THROUGH
WHAT'S CALLED CCD, FOR ME.

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I DIDN'T GO TO AN ACTUAL
CATHOLIC GRADE SCHOOL.

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SO WE, EVERY SUNDAY, IT WAS
ALMOST LIKE SUNDAY SCHOOL

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FOR CATHOLICS, BUT YOU LEARN
A LOT OF THOSE THINGS,

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GO THROUGH FIRST
COMMUNION, CONFIRMATION.

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A LOT OF THOSE, WHAT
DO YOU CALL THEM,

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I THINK SACRAMENTS,
THINGS LIKE THAT

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THAT THEY HAVE
PEOPLE GO THROUGH.

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SO I WENT THROUGH
A LOT OF THAT.

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AND I WAS LEARNING
A LOT ABOUT GOD,

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EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T
RETAINING A LOT OF IT,

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I KNEW A LOT ABOUT GOD,


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BUT I MYSELF WAS
NOT LIVING FOR HIM.

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I DIDN'T KNOW HIM, I
DIDN'T KNOW WHO JESUS WAS.

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I DIDN'T KNOW HOW
TO FOLLOW HIM,

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I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO
LIVE OUT THAT LIFESTYLE.

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AND TO BE HONEST,
A LOT OF THE OTHER PEOPLE

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IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
THAT I SAW,

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THEY WERE COMING ON SUNDAY
TO GET THE WARM FUZZIES

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OF BASICALLY SAYING
I'M A GOOD PERSON

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BECAUSE I CAME TO CHURCH,


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BUT THEIR LIFESTYLE,


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THERE WAS NO CALL FOR
CHANGE OR TRANSFORMATION,

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EVEN THE GRACE OF GOD TO
TRANSFORM AND EMPOWER THEM,

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THAT WASN'T THERE.


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SO THAT'S EXACTLY HOW
I WAS LIVING MY LIFE, AS WELL.

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I WAS LIVING ALL
FOR THE DEVIL,

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BUT JUST BECAUSE I WENT TO
CHURCH ON SUNDAY

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OR MAYBE BECAUSE I CONFESSED
MY SINS AT CONFESSION,

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SAID A FEW HAIL MARYS, SAID A
FEW OF THE LORD'S PRAYERS.

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AND NOW YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.


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YOU'VE GOT A
TICKET TO HEAVEN.

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THAT'S WHAT IT WAS
LIKE AROUND ME,

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AT LEAST WHEN I WAS BEING
RAISED UP AS A CATHOLIC.

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REBECCA: KIND OF
LIKE CHECKING A BOX.

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LIKE, OKAY, I DID MY
PART, I'M GOOD TO GO.

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BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING A
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS,

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IT'S KNOWING ABOUT GOD,
BUT NOT KNOWING HIM PERSONALLY.

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AND IT'S NOT ABOUT A SURRENDERED
LIFE, LIVING IN COMMUNION

00:09:18.566 --> 00:09:20.800
WITH GOD AND OBEDIENCE,
IT'S JUST LIKE,

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THESE ARE THE THINGS WE
DO, AND THEN WE'RE GOOD.

00:09:23.033 --> 00:09:25.300
SO IT'S LIKE IT WAS
A CULTURAL THING,

00:09:25.400 --> 00:09:29.333
NOT SO MUCH A RELATIONAL THING
WITH GOD, WOULD YOU SAY?

00:09:29.433 --> 00:09:31.300
NICHOLAS: OH,
YEAH, DEFINITELY.

00:09:31.400 --> 00:09:34.867
DEFINITELY A LOT OF
RELIGIOUS DOS AND DON'TS

00:09:34.967 --> 00:09:38.333
WITHOUT THE RELATIONSHIP WITH
GOD AND REALLY KNOWING HIM.

00:09:38.433 --> 00:09:39.433
REBECCA: DO YOU THINK
YOUR PARENTS' DIVORCE

00:09:39.533 --> 00:09:40.967
IS PART OF THE REASON
WHY YOU STRUGGLED,

00:09:41.067 --> 00:09:42.800
OR DO YOU THINK IT WAS JUST
THE FRIENDS THAT YOU WERE WITH

00:09:42.900 --> 00:09:45.033
GROWING UP OR...


00:09:45.133 --> 00:09:47.933
NICHOLAS: THEY GOT DIVORCED
WHEN I WAS ABOUT SIX MONTHS OLD.

00:09:48.033 --> 00:09:51.699
SO I DIDN'T SEE LIKE A LOT OF
THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:53.067
THAT DEFINITELY
AFFECTED MY LIFE.

00:09:53.167 --> 00:09:56.966
GOD HAS A PLAN
FOR A FAMILY,

00:09:57.066 --> 00:09:58.867
AND DIVORCE ISN'T
A PART OF IT.

00:09:58.967 --> 00:10:02.399
SO THERE WERE DEFINITELY AREAS
OF MY LIFE THAT AFFECTED IT.

00:10:02.499 --> 00:10:07.633
ULTIMATELY, IT WAS
JUST ME, FREE WILL.

00:10:07.733 --> 00:10:09.767
BECAUSE EVEN MY PARENTS
WERE TRYING TO POUR INTO ME

00:10:09.867 --> 00:10:10.767
FROM BOTH SIDES.


00:10:10.867 --> 00:10:13.100
MY MOM, MY DAD, THEY WERE
TRYING TO LEAD ME

00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.466
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION,
TRYING TO HAVE GOOD RULES

00:10:16.566 --> 00:10:18.433
AND DISCIPLINES AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.

00:10:18.533 --> 00:10:20.266
BUT I JUST WENT
MY OWN WAY,

00:10:20.366 --> 00:10:24.033
REBELLED AGAINST THEM, AND TRIED
TO GO OFF AND DO MY OWN THING.

00:10:24.133 --> 00:10:26.467
REBECCA: SO HOW DID YOU FIND
JESUS IN THE MIDST OF ALL THAT?

00:10:26.567 --> 00:10:27.700
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


00:10:27.800 --> 00:10:31.500
IT WAS IN THE PARTY
HOUSE WITH SIX GUYS.

00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.100
I CAN'T REMEMBER
THE EXACT DAY,

00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.633
BUT IT WAS PROBABLY AFTER WE HAD
TWO OR THREE DAYS OF PARTYING.

00:10:37.733 --> 00:10:40.333
AND I WAS, I THINK IT
WAS A SUNDAY EVENING,

00:10:40.433 --> 00:10:43.333
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
I JUST HIT ROCK BOTTOM.

00:10:43.433 --> 00:10:45.899
I WAS GETTING
READY FOR BED,

00:10:45.999 --> 00:10:48.866
AND JUST THE WEIGHT OF
EVERYTHING CAME ON ME.

00:10:48.966 --> 00:10:52.966
I WAS IN COLLEGE, THAT
OFF THE BAT IS A LOT OF

00:10:53.066 --> 00:10:54.866
PRESSURE AND ANXIETY
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

00:10:54.966 --> 00:10:57.766
IT CAN BE IF YOU DON'T
HAVE JESUS IN YOUR LIFE.

00:10:57.866 --> 00:11:01.267
BUT THEN I WAS ALSO
DEPRESSED AND ANXIOUS,

00:11:01.367 --> 00:11:03.700
HAVING SUICIDAL THOUGHTS
BECAUSE OF ALL THE ALCOHOL,

00:11:03.800 --> 00:11:05.799
THE DRUGS AND
THINGS THAT I WAS TAKING,

00:11:05.899 --> 00:11:08.566
IN AND OUT OF
BAD RELATIONSHIPS

00:11:08.666 --> 00:11:10.900
WHERE THERE'S BETRAYAL GOING ON,
EVEN FRIENDS GETTING INVOLVED

00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.066
IN SOME
OF THAT BETRAYAL.

00:11:13.166 --> 00:11:16.767
FACING LEGAL
CHARGES, AS WELL.

00:11:16.867 --> 00:11:20.500
AND MY DAD, WHO WAS
TRULY BORN AGAIN

00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:23.699
AND ALWAYS TRYING TO LEAD ME TO
CHRIST AND TRYING TO HELP ME,

00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:26.000
I PRETTY MUCH PUSHED
HIM OUT OF MY LIFE

00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:27.900
BECAUSE I WANTED TO
DO MY OWN THING,

00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:29.900
AND HE WAS RESISTANCE
AGAINST THAT.

00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.766
REBECCA: DID YOU FEEL CONVICTION
WHEN YOU WERE AROUND YOUR DAD?

00:11:31.866 --> 00:11:33.000
NICHOLAS: OH,
YEAH, DEFINITELY.

00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:35.000
WHEN I WAS
AROUND HIM, YEAH,

00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:38.066
ANYONE WHO REALLY KNEW
JESUS, I FELT CONVICTION.

00:11:38.166 --> 00:11:40.266
SO I TRIED TO, HEY,
GET OUT OF MY LIFE

00:11:40.366 --> 00:11:42.466
SO I CAN DO MY OWN THING
AND NOT FEEL GUILTY.

00:11:42.566 --> 00:11:45.567
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT
A LOT OF PEOPLE DO.

00:11:45.667 --> 00:11:47.433
WE GO TO A LOT
OF PRIDE EVENTS.

00:11:47.533 --> 00:11:51.133
SO THERE'S LIKE EVEN PARTS
OF CITIES WHERE LGBTQ COMMUNITY

00:11:51.233 --> 00:11:53.833
GATHERS TOGETHER,
AND THAT'S,

00:11:53.933 --> 00:11:55.833
I FEEL LIKE IN
PART BECAUSE, HEY,

00:11:55.933 --> 00:11:56.833
IF WE'RE AROUND
THESE PEOPLE,

00:11:56.933 --> 00:11:58.833
WE COULD ALMOST HAVE
OUR OWN LITTLE WORLD,

00:11:58.933 --> 00:12:01.233
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FEEL GUILTY
OR SHAME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

00:12:01.333 --> 00:12:04.866
BUT THAT'S JUST LIKE EVERY
OTHER SIN IN THE WORLD

00:12:04.966 --> 00:12:07.900
WHERE ALCOHOLICS HANG
OUT WITH ALCOHOLICS.

00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:10.166
POTHEADS HANG OUT
WITH POTHEADS.

00:12:10.266 --> 00:12:12.966
SO I HAD DONE THAT, PUSHED
PEOPLE OUT OF MY LIFE.

00:12:13.066 --> 00:12:15.033
BUT I GOT A PHONE
CALL THAT MY DAD,

00:12:15.133 --> 00:12:16.966
WHICH WAS REALLY THE ONLY
GOOD INFLUENCE --

00:12:17.066 --> 00:12:18.033
I WON'T SAY THE ONLY
GOOD INFLUENCE,

00:12:18.133 --> 00:12:20.199
BUT A MAJOR INFLUENCE
IN MY LIFE --

00:12:20.299 --> 00:12:23.600
WAS GETTING RUSHED TO THE ER
WITH, HE HAD HAD A SEIZURE,

00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:24.967
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHY.


00:12:25.067 --> 00:12:28.133
SO THAT ON TOP OF
EVERYTHING ELSE;

00:12:28.233 --> 00:12:31.500
THE FELONY CHARGE THAT I WAS
FACING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING

00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.533
I EXPLAINED
WAS WAY TOO MUCH FOR ME,

00:12:34.633 --> 00:12:40.733
AND I JUST HIT ROCK BOTTOM
AND STARTED CRYING OUT.

00:12:40.833 --> 00:12:42.400
BASICALLY, SOMETHING
HAD TO CHANGE.

00:12:42.500 --> 00:12:46.266
EITHER I WAS GOING TO
END MY LIFE

00:12:46.366 --> 00:12:48.333
OR I'M GOING TO
GIVE IT TO JESUS.

00:12:48.433 --> 00:12:50.800
BASICALLY, I DIDN'T
KNOW THAT AT THE TIME,

00:12:50.900 --> 00:12:55.033
BUT I HEARD SOMETHING
TELLING ME, GO TO CHURCH.

00:12:55.133 --> 00:12:57.100
AND THAT WAS REALLY
THE ONLY WAY THAT I KNEW

00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:59.200
TO COME BACK TO GOD.


00:12:59.300 --> 00:13:02.667
AND I STARTED TO DO THAT,
AND I WAS ON A JOURNEY

00:13:02.767 --> 00:13:04.633
FROM THAT MOMENT FORWARD.


00:13:04.733 --> 00:13:07.700
REBECCA: SO GOD -- YOU
DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOD,

00:13:07.800 --> 00:13:10.233
BUT YOU JUST FELT THIS
LIKE THING AND YOU GO TO CHURCH.

00:13:10.333 --> 00:13:11.599
WHAT HAPPENED
WHEN YOU WENT?

00:13:11.699 --> 00:13:12.499
WHERE DID YOU GO?


00:13:12.599 --> 00:13:14.066
WHICH CHURCH DID
YOU KNOW TO GO TO?

00:13:14.166 --> 00:13:16.600
BECAUSE WERE YOU IN
THE SOUTH AT THE TIME?

00:13:16.700 --> 00:13:17.666
NICHOLAS: I WAS, YEAH.


00:13:17.766 --> 00:13:18.533
REBECCA: BECAUSE THERE
ARE A LOT OF CHURCHES.

00:13:18.633 --> 00:13:19.500
NICHOLAS: TONS
OF CHURCHES, YEAH.

00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:20.467
REBECCA: SO HOW DID
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO?

00:13:20.567 --> 00:13:21.300
NICHOLAS: AND TONS
OF DENOMINATIONS, TOO.

00:13:21.400 --> 00:13:22.533
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:13:22.633 --> 00:13:25.500
NICHOLAS: WELL, MY DAD,
HE WAS -- HE'S A WORSHIP LEADER,

00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:27.767
SO HE WAS AT SOME
KIND OF CONFERENCE

00:13:27.867 --> 00:13:29.533
WHERE MULTIPLE WORSHIP
-- GO AHEAD.

00:13:29.633 --> 00:13:30.766
REBECCA: WELL,
REALLY QUICK,

00:13:30.866 --> 00:13:31.899
WE NEED TO CLARIFY THIS, BECAUSE
YOU WERE RAISED CATHOLIC,

00:13:31.999 --> 00:13:34.133
BUT YOUR
DAD WOULD END UP...

00:13:34.233 --> 00:13:36.199
NICHOLAS: SO
AT SOME POINT,

00:13:36.299 --> 00:13:38.666
HIS SISTER WITNESSED TO
HIM, HE GOT BORN AGAIN,

00:13:38.766 --> 00:13:40.199
HE BROKE OFF FROM
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

00:13:40.299 --> 00:13:42.800
AND STARTED GOING TO MORE OF
AN EVANGELICAL CHURCH.

00:13:42.900 --> 00:13:44.633
A SPIRIT-FILLED CHURCH.


00:13:44.733 --> 00:13:47.533
SO I GOT INTRODUCED TO
THAT SIDE OF THINGS.

00:13:47.633 --> 00:13:49.700
BUT WHEN I HIT AROUND
SEVENTH GRADE,

00:13:49.800 --> 00:13:52.333
I STARTED TO
DRIFT AND GO OFF.

00:13:52.433 --> 00:13:55.899
AND EVEN THOUGH I WAS IN
BOTH CHURCHES AT THE SAME TIME,

00:13:55.999 --> 00:13:57.467
I WASN'T
LIVING IT OUT.

00:13:57.567 --> 00:13:59.366
REBECCA: YOU WERE LIVING
ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN WILL.

00:13:59.466 --> 00:14:00.533
NICHOLAS: EXACTLY.


00:14:00.633 --> 00:14:01.900
REBECCA: AND YOUR WILL
WANTED TO PARTY AND HANG OUT

00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.600
WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND
DO ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

00:14:04.700 --> 00:14:06.366
NICHOLAS: RIGHT, YEAH.


00:14:06.466 --> 00:14:11.333
REBECCA: BUT YOU SAID, SO GOD --
SO YOU HIT ROCK BOTTOM, AND --

00:14:11.433 --> 00:14:12.600
NICHOLAS: WHICH
CHURCH DID I GO TO.

00:14:12.700 --> 00:14:13.566
REBECCA: YEAH,
AND I WAS ASKING,

00:14:13.666 --> 00:14:14.733
WHICH CHURCH
DID YOU GO TO?

00:14:14.833 --> 00:14:15.767
NICHOLAS: OKAY, YEAH.


00:14:15.867 --> 00:14:17.866
SO MY DAD WAS AT A
CONFERENCE WHERE HE MET

00:14:17.966 --> 00:14:20.033
ANOTHER WORSHIP LEADER WHO
WAS GOING TO A CHURCH

00:14:20.133 --> 00:14:21.433
IN BOWLING GREEN, KENTUCKY,


00:14:21.533 --> 00:14:23.466
WHICH IS THE CITY
I WAS LIVING IN.

00:14:23.566 --> 00:14:26.133
SO HE SET UP THIS MEETING
BETWEEN ME AND HIM

00:14:26.233 --> 00:14:30.900
AND TOLD THAT GUY, HEY, MY SON
USED TO PLAY BASS IN SCHOOL --

00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.800
OR, SORRY, IN
CHURCH WHEN HE WAS LITTLE.

00:14:32.900 --> 00:14:34.400
DO YOU NEED A BASS PLAYER?


00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:36.066
SO I ENDED UP GOING
ON THAT SUNDAY,

00:14:36.166 --> 00:14:38.967
RELUCTANTLY, DIDN'T WANT
TO GO, MET THIS GUY,

00:14:39.067 --> 00:14:41.167
AND HE WAS BASICALLY
LIKE, WHEN CAN YOU START?

00:14:41.267 --> 00:14:42.333
CAN YOU START
ON WEDNESDAY?

00:14:42.433 --> 00:14:44.333
SO I WAS LIKE, SURE.


00:14:44.433 --> 00:14:46.067
I GUESS.


00:14:46.167 --> 00:14:47.866
SO I'M LIVING THIS
SINFUL LIFESTYLE.

00:14:47.966 --> 00:14:49.599
BUT AT THAT POINT, I HAD
ALREADY ATTENDED

00:14:49.699 --> 00:14:51.866
A FEW DIFFERENT CHURCHES
IN BOWLING GREEN,

00:14:51.966 --> 00:14:54.566
JUST SOME CHURCHES THAT
MAYBE MY FRIEND HAD SAID,

00:14:54.666 --> 00:14:56.533
WHICH WE USED TO GO TO CATHOLIC
CHURCH EVERY NOW AND THEN,

00:14:56.633 --> 00:14:59.400
EVEN WHILE WE WERE PARTYING
ON A SATURDAY EVENING.

00:14:59.500 --> 00:15:00.933
SO I TRIED OUT A
COUPLE OF CHURCHES,

00:15:01.033 --> 00:15:03.567
HADN'T REALLY FOUND
A CHURCH HOME,

00:15:03.667 --> 00:15:05.967
WAS GOING MAYBE EVERY --
ONCE EVERY THREE WEEKS,

00:15:06.067 --> 00:15:07.833
ONCE A MONTH,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

00:15:07.933 --> 00:15:09.499
SO THIS GAVE ME
ACCOUNTABILITY,

00:15:09.599 --> 00:15:12.066
GAVE ME A COMMITMENT,
AND STARTED GOING THERE

00:15:12.166 --> 00:15:17.000
TO THAT CHURCH WHERE I REALLY
STARTED TO ENCOUNTER GOD

00:15:17.100 --> 00:15:18.733
AS I WOULD GO THERE.


00:15:18.833 --> 00:15:20.233
MAYBE IT WAS JUST
HEARING THE WORSHIP,

00:15:20.333 --> 00:15:23.066
I WOULD SENSE GOD'S PEACE
OR SENSE HIS PRESENCE,

00:15:23.166 --> 00:15:25.400
SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
SENSE THE LOVE OF GOD.

00:15:25.500 --> 00:15:27.066
AND THEN THROUGH
PREACHING.

00:15:27.166 --> 00:15:28.867
AND THEN THERE WAS
OFTENTIMES MINISTRY

00:15:28.967 --> 00:15:31.033
THAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS WHERE
YOU COULD GO UP FOR PRAYER,

00:15:31.133 --> 00:15:32.367
SOMEONE WOULD
LAY HANDS ON YOU,

00:15:32.467 --> 00:15:34.533
OR IF WE HAD A GUEST SPEAKER
AND THEY WOULD MINISTER TO YOU,

00:15:34.633 --> 00:15:36.633
WHICH WAS
FAIRLY NEW TO ME.

00:15:36.733 --> 00:15:38.066
I GREW UP SEEING
THAT A LITTLE BIT,

00:15:38.166 --> 00:15:40.500
BUT I NEVER REALLY GOT
THAT INVOLVED WITH IT.

00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:42.833
BUT WHEN MY HEART HAD
TURNED TO THE LORD

00:15:42.933 --> 00:15:45.966
AND I WAS REALLY SEEKING HIM,
THOSE MINISTRY MOMENTS

00:15:46.066 --> 00:15:50.666
PLAYED A HUGE, HUGE
IMPACT, EVEN IN MY LIFE.

00:15:50.766 --> 00:15:53.766
THERE WERE TIMES, I DON'T
KNOW IF THE AUDIENCE,

00:15:53.866 --> 00:15:55.533
WHAT KIND OF
CHURCH THEY GO TO,

00:15:55.633 --> 00:15:58.833
BUT THERE WERE TIMES WHERE
SOMEONE WOULD PRAY FOR ME,

00:15:58.933 --> 00:16:01.600
AND I WOULD JUST REALLY FEEL
THIS WEIGHTY PRESENCE OF GOD,

00:16:01.700 --> 00:16:04.867
AND THEN I WOULD JUST
LAY ON THE FLOOR FOR A WHILE,

00:16:04.967 --> 00:16:05.833
TO BE HONEST.


00:16:05.933 --> 00:16:08.467
AND IN THOSE MOMENTS,


00:16:08.567 --> 00:16:12.100
I REALLY FELT LIKE GOD, IF I
COULD JUST PUT AN ANALOGY TO IT,

00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.166
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE
SPIRITUAL SURGERY.

00:16:14.266 --> 00:16:16.933
IT FELT LIKE GOD WAS ALMOST LIKE
DOING THINGS INSIDE OF ME,

00:16:17.033 --> 00:16:18.433
CHANGING THINGS,


00:16:18.533 --> 00:16:20.867
WAYS THAT I WAS THINKING,
CHANGING THINGS IN MY HEART

00:16:20.967 --> 00:16:22.299
AS I WAS JUST
THERE ON THE FLOOR,

00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:27.500
STAYING AWARE OF HIM AND
KEEPING MY MIND UPON HIM,

00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.500
AND I KNEW THAT GOD WAS
DOING SOMETHING IN ME.

00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:32.233
I ACTUALLY HAD
A VISION ONCE,

00:16:32.333 --> 00:16:33.566
THERE WAS A GUEST
SPEAKER THAT WAS THERE,

00:16:33.666 --> 00:16:36.933
HE WAS AN EVANGELIST,
AND HE PRAYED FOR ME.

00:16:37.033 --> 00:16:41.399
THAT HAPPENED, AND I HAD A
VISION OF LIKE A REVIVAL TENT,

00:16:41.499 --> 00:16:43.867
AND I SAW LIKE
10,000, 20,000,

00:16:43.967 --> 00:16:46.833
AND THEN 30,000 PEOPLE,
AND I FELT LIKE THE LORD

00:16:46.933 --> 00:16:51.000
WAS SAYING LIKE, I'M GOING
TO BE LIKE THE HEAD OF THIS.

00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.533
LIKE I'M GOING TO HAVE
AUTHORITY OVER THIS.

00:16:52.633 --> 00:16:54.333
DON'T TRY TO LET ANY MAN


00:16:54.433 --> 00:16:57.166
HAVE AUTHORITY
OVER THESE MEETINGS.

00:16:57.266 --> 00:16:58.800
I HAVEN'T SEEN
THAT COME TO PASS,

00:16:58.900 --> 00:16:59.933
THAT VISION COME TO PASS.


00:17:00.033 --> 00:17:01.433
I DON'T KNOW IF IT
WAS FOR THE MINISTER,

00:17:01.533 --> 00:17:02.899
THE GUEST SPEAKER
THAT WAS THERE,

00:17:02.999 --> 00:17:06.567
IF IT WAS -- IT MAY HAVE
BEEN FOR ME, BUT ANYWAYS.

00:17:06.667 --> 00:17:08.000
I HAD SOME VISIONS
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

00:17:08.100 --> 00:17:10.100
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE
I FELT ELECTRICITY

00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:10.833
GOING THROUGH MY BODY


00:17:10.933 --> 00:17:13.033
LIKE
DURING THAT VISION.

00:17:13.133 --> 00:17:17.066
I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT
GOD WAS DOING INSIDE OF ME.

00:17:17.166 --> 00:17:22.300
I JUST KNOW IT WAS HIM,
AND IT'S PRODUCING GOOD FRUIT.

00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.500
SO AS I WAS SEEKING GOD, I JUST
HAD MORE AND MORE ENCOUNTERS

00:17:24.600 --> 00:17:26.599
WITH HIM,
THROUGH MINISTRY,

00:17:26.699 --> 00:17:28.800
AND THEN EVEN THROUGH
GOING BACK HOME,

00:17:28.900 --> 00:17:30.267
AND THEN LEARNING
THAT, HEY,

00:17:30.367 --> 00:17:33.000
I CAN SPEND TIME WITH GOD, I
DON'T HAVE TO JUST GO TO CHURCH

00:17:33.100 --> 00:17:34.099
TO HANG OUT
WITH HIM.

00:17:34.199 --> 00:17:35.566
I CAN ACTUALLY GO HOME
AND HANG OUT WITH GOD

00:17:35.666 --> 00:17:38.167
AND I CAN PRAISE AND
WORSHIP AND THANK HIM,

00:17:38.267 --> 00:17:42.167
GET IN HIS PRESENCE AT HOME,
GET IN THE WORD, TALK TO HIM.

00:17:42.267 --> 00:17:44.800
AND PRAYER BECAME
LESS OF A CHECK LIST.

00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:46.566
THIS IS WHAT
YOU'VE GOT TO DO.

00:17:46.666 --> 00:17:49.600
BUT NOW I'M ACTUALLY
TALKING TO HIM.

00:17:49.700 --> 00:17:50.733
I CAN MAKE
REQUESTS TO HIM.

00:17:50.833 --> 00:17:53.033
THIS ISN'T JUST, AH,
I'VE GOT TO PRAY,

00:17:53.133 --> 00:17:54.900
BUT IT'S LIKE,
I GET TO PRAY.

00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.266
LIKE, THE GOD OF
THE UNIVERSE,

00:17:56.366 --> 00:17:57.966
THE ONE WHO CREATED
EVERYTHING,

00:17:58.066 --> 00:17:59.966
I GET TO ASK
HIM FOR STUFF,

00:18:00.066 --> 00:18:01.233
ACCORDING TO HIS WILL?


00:18:01.333 --> 00:18:02.933
AND THEN HE
ACTUALLY DOES IT.

00:18:03.033 --> 00:18:06.066
AND HE WANTS TO HEAR ME
AND HE WANTS TO TALK TO ME.

00:18:06.166 --> 00:18:08.233
AND THEN I LEARNED HOW,
OR THE LORD TAUGHT ME,

00:18:08.333 --> 00:18:10.799
HOW TO HEAR HIS VOICE,
WHICH HONESTLY

00:18:10.899 --> 00:18:14.900
JUST STARTED WITH ME SITTING
DOWN AFTER A TIME

00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.566
OF PRAISE AND WORSHIP AND
JUST TAKING TIME TO LISTEN.

00:18:18.666 --> 00:18:20.166
AND FOR ME, IT
STARTED OUT,

00:18:20.266 --> 00:18:22.100
I WOULD JUST SEE MAYBE
A PICTURE OF SOMETHING,

00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.899
LIKE MAYBE A 1 OR
2-SECOND LIKE, BOOM,

00:18:24.999 --> 00:18:26.333
GOD SHOWED ME A
BUTTERFLY, AND I'M LIKE,

00:18:26.433 --> 00:18:28.167
WHY AM I SEEING A
BUTTERFLY RIGHT NOW?

00:18:28.267 --> 00:18:30.033
AND THEN OVER THE NEXT
TWO TO THREE DAYS,

00:18:30.133 --> 00:18:32.267
I WOULD SEE GOD, HEY, GOD,
WHY DID YOU SHOW ME A BUTTERFLY?

00:18:32.367 --> 00:18:33.967
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?


00:18:34.067 --> 00:18:36.966
AND THEN GOD WOULD
GIVE ME A REVELATION,

00:18:37.066 --> 00:18:38.366
MAYBE IT WAS HOPE.


00:18:38.466 --> 00:18:39.766
I'M BRINGING HOPE
INTO YOUR LIFE.

00:18:39.866 --> 00:18:41.467
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.


00:18:41.567 --> 00:18:44.566
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY A LOT
OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

00:18:44.666 --> 00:18:47.033
BUT THEN GOD WOULD MAYBE
SAY A WORD TO ME,

00:18:47.133 --> 00:18:48.333
AND THEN I WOULD SEEK HIM.


00:18:48.433 --> 00:18:50.300
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?


00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:51.567
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT
BE LIKE, WELL,

00:18:51.667 --> 00:18:52.933
IF GOD'S SPEAKING TO YOU,
SURELY YOU'RE GOING TO

00:18:53.033 --> 00:18:54.500
KNOW WHAT HE MEANS.


00:18:54.600 --> 00:18:56.966
BUT HONESTLY, WITH PETER
UP ON THE ROOFTOP,

00:18:57.066 --> 00:18:59.466
WHEN HE HAS THE VISION
AND THE LORD LOWERS DOWN

00:18:59.566 --> 00:19:01.500
THAT GREAT SHEET WITH
ALL THE ANIMALS,

00:19:01.600 --> 00:19:03.733
IT SAYS PETER WAS
PONDERING, LIKE,

00:19:03.833 --> 00:19:06.467
HE WAS WONDERING,
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

00:19:06.567 --> 00:19:08.699
AND THEN AS HE
ACTUALLY OBEYED GOD,

00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.700
AS HE ACTUALLY LISTENED TO
THE LEANING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,

00:19:10.800 --> 00:19:13.866
WHICH WAS GO DOWN WITH THESE MEN
AND THEN GO WITH HIM,

00:19:13.966 --> 00:19:15.067
THEN HE
FOUND OUT, HEY,

00:19:15.167 --> 00:19:17.200
THAT'S WHAT THAT VISION MEANT
WHEN HE WAS OVER

00:19:17.300 --> 00:19:18.933
AT CORNELIUS' HOUSE,
AND NOW ALL THESE PEOPLE

00:19:19.033 --> 00:19:21.100
ARE GETTING BORN AGAIN AND
FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT

00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:22.700
AND BAPTIZED IN WATER.


00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:24.633
HE REALIZED WHAT
GOD WAS SPEAKING.

00:19:24.733 --> 00:19:27.133
SO A LOT OF TIMES, EVEN
IN THE SECRET PLACE,

00:19:27.233 --> 00:19:30.433
AS EVERYONE ELSE IS SEEKING GOD
AND HE'S SPEAKING TO THEM,

00:19:30.533 --> 00:19:32.599
WE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS
RIGHT OFF THE BAT,

00:19:32.699 --> 00:19:34.466
BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO OBEY HIM
AND FOLLOW HIS LEAD,

00:19:34.566 --> 00:19:35.900
HE'S GOING TO
REVEAL IT.

00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:40.266
SO IT EXPANDED FROM
JUST A PICTURE OR A WORD

00:19:40.366 --> 00:19:43.767
TO THEN ACTUALLY HAVING
CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD,

00:19:43.867 --> 00:19:46.000
ACTUALLY HEARING
HIM SPEAK TO ME,

00:19:46.100 --> 00:19:49.066
WHO HE'S MADE ME
TO BE AS HIS SON.

00:19:49.166 --> 00:19:52.233
JUST HEARING GOD SAYING,
MY SON, I LOVE YOU.

00:19:52.333 --> 00:19:53.499
JUST THINGS LIKE THAT.


00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:55.567
OR MY DAUGHTER,
I LOVE YOU.

00:19:55.667 --> 00:19:57.933
I'VE CALLED YOU FOR
SUCH A TIME AS THIS.

00:19:58.033 --> 00:20:00.800
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GOD
WILL SPEAK OVER OUR LIFE.

00:20:00.900 --> 00:20:02.999
OR I'VE CALLED YOU TO
PREACH THE GOSPEL

00:20:03.099 --> 00:20:05.333
WHERE MY GLORY
IS UPON YOU.

00:20:05.433 --> 00:20:09.500
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GOD
MAY SPEAK INTO OUR LIVES,

00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:10.700
EVEN THE LOVING CORRECTION


00:20:10.800 --> 00:20:12.933
THAT THE LORD MAY
SPEAK INTO OUR LIFE

00:20:13.033 --> 00:20:14.099
TO BUILD US UP,


00:20:14.199 --> 00:20:17.133
TO HELP US TO
MATURE IN CHRIST.

00:20:17.233 --> 00:20:20.400
IT REALLY CHANGED
EVERYTHING FOR ME.

00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:22.000
THE LORD SPOKE
TO ME RECENTLY

00:20:22.100 --> 00:20:24.533
AND SAID MY VOICE
CHANGES EVERYTHING.

00:20:24.633 --> 00:20:25.433
AND IF WE THINK ABOUT IT,


00:20:25.533 --> 00:20:27.399
HE CREATED EVERYTHING
IN THE WORLD

00:20:27.499 --> 00:20:28.866
BY SPEAKING.


00:20:28.966 --> 00:20:31.400
AND JUST FOR HIM TO
SPEAK ONE WORD TO US CAN

00:20:31.500 --> 00:20:34.200
LITERALLY CHANGE
EVERYTHING IN OUR LIVES.

00:20:34.300 --> 00:20:37.033
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT
YOU JUST GAVE THAT JOURNEY

00:20:37.133 --> 00:20:39.199
OF GOD TEACHING YOU
HOW TO HEAR HIS VOICE,

00:20:39.299 --> 00:20:41.933
BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE
WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT,

00:20:42.033 --> 00:20:43.866
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS
SUCH A GREAT WAY TO JUST

00:20:43.966 --> 00:20:49.433
SIMPLY EXPLAIN YOUR OWN
JOURNEY AND HOW GOD WORKS.

00:20:49.533 --> 00:20:50.833
GOD IS SO AMAZING,


00:20:50.933 --> 00:20:52.733
AND IT'S SUCH A GREAT
THING WHEN YOU SHIFT FROM

00:20:52.833 --> 00:20:54.999
THIS PERSON THAT YOU HEAR
ABOUT TO KNOWING HIM

00:20:55.099 --> 00:20:56.766
PERSONALLY AND THEN YOU
GET FILLED WITH THE AWE

00:20:56.866 --> 00:21:00.866
AND WONDER OF GOD AND YOU
REALIZE HOW MAJESTIC HE IS,

00:21:00.966 --> 00:21:02.533
HIS GLORY, AND THAT
HE'S OUR FATHER

00:21:02.633 --> 00:21:05.000
AND HE LOVES US, AND IT
SHIFTS EVERYTHING.

00:21:05.100 --> 00:21:06.100
I REMEMBER
EVEN FOR ME,

00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:09.133
I USED TO NOT LIKE PRAYER
UNTIL PRAYER WENT FROM

00:21:09.233 --> 00:21:12.900
BEING THIS RELIGIOUS
ACTIVITY TO ME TALKING TO GOD

00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.100
AND GOD
TALKING BACK TO ME.

00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.233
AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S
NOT THAT I HAVE TO PRAY,

00:21:17.333 --> 00:21:18.500
I GET TO PRAY.


00:21:18.600 --> 00:21:19.967
AND IT'S ONE OF OUR
GREATEST PRIVILEGES

00:21:20.067 --> 00:21:21.200
AS BELIEVERS.


00:21:21.300 --> 00:21:23.666
AND SO, YEAH, THE
RELATIONSHIP ASPECT SHIFTS

00:21:23.766 --> 00:21:25.733
EVERYTHING, AND FOR ME
PERSONALLY THAT IS MY

00:21:25.833 --> 00:21:28.300
TESTIMONY AS WELL, FROM
BEING RAISED IN CHURCH

00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:30.366
TO ACTUALLY LEARNING HOW TO
HAVE - SURRENDERING MY

00:21:30.466 --> 00:21:33.500
LIFE AT 19 AND LEARNING TO
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

00:21:33.600 --> 00:21:36.333
AND HOW IT NOT ONLY
CHANGED EVERYTHING,

00:21:36.433 --> 00:21:38.766
BUT IT WAS LIKE
FOUNDATIONAL IN MY LIFE.

00:21:38.866 --> 00:21:40.133
AND I REMEMBER GOD
SPEAKING TO ME WHEN I WAS

00:21:40.233 --> 00:21:42.366
IN BIBLE SCHOOL,
AND HE SAID,

00:21:42.466 --> 00:21:43.866
BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO
PREPARE FOR MINISTRY,

00:21:43.966 --> 00:21:46.799
AND HE SAID, EVERYTHING
THAT YOU NEED FOR LIFE AND

00:21:46.899 --> 00:21:49.699
MINISTRY WILL COME FROM
YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ME.

00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.733
SO FOCUS ON YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH ME.

00:21:51.833 --> 00:21:54.333
AND IT'S THAT JOHN 17,
ABIDE IN ME AND I WILL ABIDE -

00:21:54.433 --> 00:21:56.733
NOT JOHN 17, JOHN 15,
ABIDE IN ME AND I WILL

00:21:56.833 --> 00:21:58.267
ABIDE IN YOU.


00:21:58.367 --> 00:22:01.366
AND SO THAT IS SO
FOUNDATIONAL FOR EVERY BELIEVER.

00:22:01.466 --> 00:22:03.133
BUT WHAT BREAKS MY HEART
IS SO MANY PEOPLE

00:22:03.233 --> 00:22:05.366
EITHER DON'T UNDERSTAND IT OR
IT'S NOT BEING TAUGHT

00:22:05.466 --> 00:22:06.900
IN CHURCHES.


00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:08.133
IT REALLY ISN'T.


00:22:08.233 --> 00:22:10.067
AND SO I THINK IT'S SUCH
AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE.

00:22:10.167 --> 00:22:12.333
SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING
THAT WITH OUR AUDIENCE,

00:22:12.433 --> 00:22:13.733
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU
SHARED IT IN SUCH A LIKE

00:22:13.833 --> 00:22:15.999
EASY-TO-UNDERSTAND WAY,
AND I JUST LOVE THAT.

00:22:16.099 --> 00:22:18.633
BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE
CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE,

00:22:18.733 --> 00:22:19.767
I DON'T KNOW, IT'S
JUST VERY GROUNDED,

00:22:19.867 --> 00:22:21.133
AND I LIKE THAT.


00:22:21.233 --> 00:22:22.199
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


00:22:22.299 --> 00:22:23.733
YOU SAID SOMETHING
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.

00:22:23.833 --> 00:22:26.633
YOU SAID SOMETHING ALONG
THE LINES OF BASICALLY

00:22:26.733 --> 00:22:29.500
A RELATIONSHIP WITH
ME IS ALL YOU NEED.

00:22:29.600 --> 00:22:31.166
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
THE LORD HAS REVEALED

00:22:31.266 --> 00:22:34.533
TO ME, AS WELL, WHICH IS
JESUS SAID, WHEN YOU PRAY,

00:22:34.633 --> 00:22:37.399
GO INTO THE ROOM,
SHUT THE DOOR,

00:22:37.499 --> 00:22:39.766
AND YOU'RE IN SECRET,
AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

00:22:39.866 --> 00:22:42.266
SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET
THE WORD, SECRET PLACE.

00:22:42.366 --> 00:22:46.099
BUT I'VE SEEN EVEN IN MY
OWN LIFE EVERYTHING -

00:22:46.199 --> 00:22:48.400
EVERY GOOD FRUIT
THAT'S BEEN PRODUCED,

00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:51.999
EVERYTHING THAT'S OF VALUE
IN MY LIFE HAS REALLY

00:22:52.099 --> 00:22:55.299
COME OUT OF THE SECRET PLACE,
HAS REALLY COME OUT OF

00:22:55.399 --> 00:22:58.099
JUST BEING ALONE WITH
GOD IN AN INTIMATE WAY,

00:22:58.199 --> 00:23:00.799
TALKING WITH HIM, GETTING
TO KNOW WHO HE IS.

00:23:00.899 --> 00:23:04.266
BECAUSE THE GOD THAT WE'RE
READING ABOUT IN THE SCRIPTURES

00:23:04.366 --> 00:23:07.200
ON THE PAGES,
IT'S LIKE WE CAN READ

00:23:07.300 --> 00:23:09.566
ABOUT JESUS, AND THE
HOLY SPIRIT CAN GIVE US

00:23:09.666 --> 00:23:13.166
REVELATION OF WHO JESUS
IS FROM THE SCRIPTURES,

00:23:13.266 --> 00:23:15.399
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE
THAN JUST READING THE

00:23:15.499 --> 00:23:18.133
SCRIPTURES BECAUSE HE SENT
THE HOLY SPIRIT, RIGHT.

00:23:18.233 --> 00:23:19.633
WE HAVE THE SCRIPTURES,
BUT WE ALSO HAVE

00:23:19.733 --> 00:23:21.266
THE HOLY SPIRIT.


00:23:21.366 --> 00:23:23.899
AND WE CAN ACTUALLY
EXPERIENCE WHO HE IS,

00:23:23.999 --> 00:23:27.367
AND THEN FROM THAT PLACE
OF REALLY KNOWING HIM,

00:23:27.467 --> 00:23:31.000
FROM VIEWING THE
SCRIPTURES FROM THE PERSPECTIVE

00:23:31.100 --> 00:23:35.300
OF THAT INTERACTION
IN THE SECRET PLACE,

00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:39.233
IT CHANGES
EVERYTHING IN A GOOD WAY.

00:23:39.333 --> 00:23:40.533
I DON'T WANT THAT
TO SOUND HERETICAL.

00:23:40.633 --> 00:23:41.733
IT CHANGES EVERYTHING.


00:23:41.833 --> 00:23:44.200
IT JUST MAKES THE
BIBLE COME ALIVE.

00:23:44.300 --> 00:23:46.467
REBECCA: YEAH,
AND IT IS LIVING.

00:23:46.567 --> 00:23:47.566
HIS WORD IS LIVING.


00:23:47.666 --> 00:23:49.166
NICHOLAS: EXACTLY.


00:23:49.266 --> 00:23:50.067
REBECCA: AND YOU'RE
HITTING ON SUCH AN

00:23:50.167 --> 00:23:52.233
IMPORTANT POINT,
WHICH IS THAT JESUS,

00:23:52.333 --> 00:23:54.633
HE TOLD HIS DISCIPLES,
HE SAYS, I'M GOING AWAY,

00:23:54.733 --> 00:23:57.167
BUT I'M SENDING
MY HOLY SPIRIT,

00:23:57.267 --> 00:23:58.733
WHICH LITERALLY
IN THE GREEK,

00:23:58.833 --> 00:24:01.833
IT MEANS PARAKLETOS, WHICH IS
ONE WHO IS JUST LIKE ME.

00:24:01.933 --> 00:24:04.199
IT'S THE SPIRIT
OF JESUS, RIGHT.

00:24:04.299 --> 00:24:08.499
HE'S SENDING HIS HOLY
SPIRIT TO US TO LEAD US,

00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:10.733
TO COMFORT US,
TO GUIDE US.

00:24:10.833 --> 00:24:13.399
AND SO THE HOLY SPIRIT
IS A PERSON THAT IS VERY

00:24:13.499 --> 00:24:16.533
MISUNDERSTOOD IN THE
CHURCH OR VERY JUST NOT KNOWN,

00:24:16.633 --> 00:24:19.300
BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT
IS WHO IS ON THE EARTH NOW.

00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:21.699
JESUS IS IN HEAVEN,
BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT,

00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.733
WHEN WE GET SAVED, HE
COMES AND LIVES INSIDE OF US

00:24:24.833 --> 00:24:27.899
AND IT CHANGES EVERYTHING.


00:24:27.999 --> 00:24:30.366
AND SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT
FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND

00:24:30.466 --> 00:24:31.833
THAT YOU CAN HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP

00:24:31.933 --> 00:24:33.133
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT


00:24:33.233 --> 00:24:34.867
AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
GIVES US REVELATION

00:24:34.967 --> 00:24:37.633
AND EVEN SAYS THAT THE HOLY
SPIRIT SEARCHES THE DEEP

00:24:37.733 --> 00:24:40.433
THINGS OF GOD AND THEN
REVEALS GOD TO US.

00:24:40.533 --> 00:24:41.933
IT SAYS THAT IN ROMANS.


00:24:42.033 --> 00:24:44.866
AND SO THIS MYSTERIOUS
THING DOESN'T

00:24:44.966 --> 00:24:46.133
HAVE TO BE MYSTERIOUS.


00:24:46.233 --> 00:24:47.666
WE CAN KNOW HIM.


00:24:47.766 --> 00:24:49.233
AND SO I FEEL LIKE YOU
JUST BROKE - ONCE AGAIN,

00:24:49.333 --> 00:24:50.833
YOU BROKE THAT
DOWN I THINK IN AN

00:24:50.933 --> 00:24:53.366
EASY-TO-UNDERSTAND KIND
OF WAY, AND DEMYSTIFIED,

00:24:53.466 --> 00:24:56.033
BECAUSE GOD IS HOLY,
BUT HE'S ALSO PERSONAL,

00:24:56.133 --> 00:24:58.067
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO
MAKE HIM A MYSTERY.

00:24:58.167 --> 00:24:59.899
HE'S HERE FOR US TO KNOW.


00:24:59.999 --> 00:25:02.299
AND EVEN WHEN YOU WERE
TALKING ABOUT HOW GOD

00:25:02.399 --> 00:25:05.300
TAUGHT YOU HOW TO HEAR HIS
VOICE AND HOW GOD WOULD

00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:07.833
LIKE GIVE YOU A PICTURE, YOU
SAID SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT,

00:25:07.933 --> 00:25:09.999
WHICH I DIDN'T LEARN
THIS UNTIL LATER IN LIFE.

00:25:10.099 --> 00:25:11.166
YEAH.


00:25:11.266 --> 00:25:13.200
SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING
ABOUT HOW GOD WOULD GIVE YOU

00:25:13.300 --> 00:25:15.433
LIKE A LITTLE MORSEL
AND THEN GOD IS INVITING

00:25:15.533 --> 00:25:16.467
YOU IN.


00:25:16.567 --> 00:25:17.799
AND SO MANY PEOPLE, THEY'LL
HEAR FROM GOD,

00:25:17.899 --> 00:25:20.233
BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT
GOD'S INVITING THEM IN TO

00:25:20.333 --> 00:25:21.933
DRAW CLOSER TO HIM IN
RELATIONSHIP,

00:25:22.033 --> 00:25:25.266
OR FOR HIM TO REVEAL MORE OF
WHAT HE'S SHOWING,

00:25:25.366 --> 00:25:27.899
BUT HE'S INVITING HIM INTO
ALMOST LIKE A TREASURE HUNT

00:25:27.999 --> 00:25:29.099
OR LIKE A JOURNEY.


00:25:29.199 --> 00:25:32.767
AND SO THAT VERSE IS IN
PROVERBS 25:2, WHICH SAYS,

00:25:32.867 --> 00:25:34.699
IT'S THE GLORY OF GOD
TO CONCEAL THINGS,

00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.233
BUT THE GLORY OF KINGS
TO SEARCH IT OUT.

00:25:37.333 --> 00:25:40.499
SO WE HAVE THIS PRIVILEGE
THAT GOD'S GIVEN US THE

00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.567
ABILITY TO GO FURTHER INTO
HIM AND FOR HIM TO REVEAL

00:25:42.667 --> 00:25:47.100
MYSTERIES AND REVEAL
HIMSELF TO US.

00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:48.167
NICHOLAS: AMEN, YEAH.


00:25:48.267 --> 00:25:49.100
REBECCA: I THINK
THAT'S REALLY COOL.

00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.367
NICHOLAS: THERE'S
SO MUCH MORE TO GOD,

00:25:50.467 --> 00:25:52.166
EVEN WITH WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING.

00:25:52.266 --> 00:25:54.133
I'LL HEAR THE LORD
SPEAK TO ME AND SAY,

00:25:54.233 --> 00:25:56.166
COME CLOSER.


00:25:56.266 --> 00:26:00.000
OR I REALLY FEEL LIKE HE'S
DRAWING ME INTO THE SECRET PLACE

00:26:00.100 --> 00:26:02.867
MORE AND MORE IN
CERTAIN SEASONS OF MY LIFE

00:26:02.967 --> 00:26:05.766
AND DRAWING ME
DEEPER INTO THE WORD.

00:26:05.866 --> 00:26:08.433
AND REALLY I THINK THERE'S
SO MUCH - OR I KNOW -

00:26:08.533 --> 00:26:10.233
THAT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE.


00:26:10.333 --> 00:26:13.333
SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE,
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU,

00:26:13.433 --> 00:26:15.800
BUT I CAN GET, IT'S
TEMPTING TO GET

00:26:15.900 --> 00:26:18.267
SPIRITUALLY PRIDEFUL
AND THINK, OH,

00:26:18.367 --> 00:26:20.633
I KNOW QUITE A
BIT, THIS AND THAT.

00:26:20.733 --> 00:26:21.867
PAUL SAID IF YOU THINK
YOU KNOW ANYTHING,

00:26:21.967 --> 00:26:23.800
YOU KNOW NOTHING
AS YOU OUGHT.

00:26:23.900 --> 00:26:26.333
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF
THINGS IN THE SCRIPTURES.

00:26:26.433 --> 00:26:28.066
FOR INSTANCE, ME AND MY
COUSIN WERE ACTUALLY

00:26:28.166 --> 00:26:31.066
TALKING ABOUT THIS
RECENTLY BUT PHILIP,

00:26:31.166 --> 00:26:32.833
WHEN HE BAPTIZED
THE EUNUCH,

00:26:32.933 --> 00:26:35.533
IT SAYS IMMEDIATELY
HE WAS CAUGHT AWAY.

00:26:35.633 --> 00:26:37.367
STUFF LIKE THAT,
STUFF JESUS,

00:26:37.467 --> 00:26:39.666
HE WAS WALKING
ON THE WATER,

00:26:39.766 --> 00:26:42.800
HE WAS DETERMINED
TO PASS THE BOAT BY,

00:26:42.900 --> 00:26:45.300
AND THE DISCIPLES WERE ON
THE BOAT IN THE STORM

00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.199
AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING BECAUSE
THE WIND IS AGAINST THEM.

00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:49.900
AND THEN JESUS COMES INTO
THE BOAT AND IMMEDIATELY

00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:53.466
SAYS THE BOAT WAS
AT THE OTHER SIDE.

00:26:53.566 --> 00:26:56.867
SO THERE ARE THESE THINGS
IN THE SCRIPTURES WHERE

00:26:56.967 --> 00:27:01.500
PEOPLE HAD FAITH, EVEN
THE DEAD BEING RAISED UP.

00:27:01.600 --> 00:27:04.267
I'VE NEVER SEEN
THE DEAD BE RAISED.

00:27:04.367 --> 00:27:05.266
WITH A MUSTARD
SEED OF FAITH,

00:27:05.366 --> 00:27:07.200
YOU CAN SEE
MOUNTAINS BE MOVED.

00:27:07.300 --> 00:27:08.500
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH
MORE ABOUT GOD,

00:27:08.567 --> 00:27:11.266
EVEN THE BOOK OF
REVELATION MAKES ME WONDER

00:27:11.366 --> 00:27:15.733
AT TIMES SOME OF THE
PROPHETIC IMAGERY THAT'S

00:27:15.833 --> 00:27:19.233
GIVEN THERE, AND IT'S LIKE
YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND THESE

00:27:19.333 --> 00:27:21.300
THINGS WITHOUT
THE WISDOM OF GOD.

00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.200
AND THEN IT GIVES
THE INTERPRETATION,

00:27:23.300 --> 00:27:24.200
AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT?


00:27:24.300 --> 00:27:25.899
YOU GOT THAT FROM THAT?


00:27:25.999 --> 00:27:28.567
AND IT'S LIKE, I REALLY
GOT TO SEEK GOD MORE DEEPER

00:27:28.667 --> 00:27:31.233
TO GET TO
KNOW HIM MORE.

00:27:31.333 --> 00:27:33.833
BUT HE'S SO VAST
AND SO AMAZING,

00:27:33.933 --> 00:27:37.266
EVEN FOR THE 24 ELDERS AND
THE FOUR LIVING CREATURES

00:27:37.366 --> 00:27:40.300
THAT CRY OUT,
HOLY, HOLY, HOLY.

00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:41.600
FOR ALL OF ETERNITY,
NIGHT AND DAY,

00:27:41.700 --> 00:27:44.299
THEY NEVER STOP
CEASING, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY

00:27:44.399 --> 00:27:47.433
IS THE LORD
GOD ALMIGHTY.

00:27:47.533 --> 00:27:50.466
SO WE'RE NEVER GOING TO
EXPERIENCE GOD TO THE POINT

00:27:50.566 --> 00:27:52.033
WHERE LIKE,
OKAY, I'VE GOT THIS.

00:27:52.133 --> 00:27:54.633
I'VE EXPERIENCED
HIM, I KNOW HIM.

00:27:54.733 --> 00:27:56.833
BUT WE CAN LITERALLY,
OUR WHOLE LIFE,

00:27:56.933 --> 00:27:58.167
WE'RE GOING TO BE ON A
JOURNEY OF KNOWING HIM

00:27:58.267 --> 00:28:00.267
MORE AND MORE.


00:28:00.367 --> 00:28:02.133
AND THERE'S A
SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS,

00:28:02.233 --> 00:28:04.600
HE'S A REWARDER OF THOSE
WHO DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.

00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:05.533
REBECCA: YEAH, IN HEBREWS.


00:28:05.633 --> 00:28:06.800
NICHOLAS: AMEN.


00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:07.900
REBECCA: I
LOVE THAT VERSE.

00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.399
NICHOLAS: AND I WANT
TO DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM

00:28:09.499 --> 00:28:10.467
TO KNOW WHO HE IS.


00:28:10.567 --> 00:28:13.166
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT
HE'S OUR REWARD.

00:28:13.266 --> 00:28:15.100
WE'RE HIS REWARD.


00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.800
SO TO REALLY ENTER INTO
THAT PLACE TO KNOW HIM MORE.

00:28:17.900 --> 00:28:20.199
I CAN EVEN
SENSE HIM RIGHT NOW,

00:28:20.299 --> 00:28:23.700
HE'S DRAWING US AND
EVERYONE WHO IS WATCHING THIS,

00:28:23.800 --> 00:28:25.866
HE'S DRAWING US
CLOSER TO HIS HEART

00:28:25.966 --> 00:28:28.199
TO KNOW HIM MORE.


00:28:28.299 --> 00:28:29.333
AND JUST ONE WORD.


00:28:29.433 --> 00:28:31.733
LITERALLY, JUST ONE WORD
FROM HIM CAN CHANGE

00:28:31.833 --> 00:28:35.867
ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, CAN CHANGE
OUR LIFE COMPLETELY,

00:28:35.967 --> 00:28:38.366
CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING, JUST
ONE WORD FROM GOD.

00:28:38.466 --> 00:28:40.967
SO TO REALLY TAKE THAT
TIME TO DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM,

00:28:41.067 --> 00:28:43.067
TO TAKE THAT TIME
TO LISTEN TO HIS VOICE,

00:28:43.167 --> 00:28:45.700
TO TAKE AWAY FROM
THE BUSYNESS OF LIFE,

00:28:45.800 --> 00:28:48.900
GET AWAY FROM THE
MARTHA MENTALITY AND GO

00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.766
LIKE MARY DID AND
SIT AT HIS FEET.

00:28:51.866 --> 00:28:53.666
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE
IN THIS WORLD THAT CAN

00:28:53.766 --> 00:28:57.400
COMPARE TO BEING WITH
HIM AND KNOWING HIM AND

00:28:57.500 --> 00:28:59.233
LISTENING TO HIS VOICE


00:28:59.333 --> 00:29:01.300
AND JUST SPENDING
TIME WITH HIM.

00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.067
REBECCA: THAT'S SO TRUE.


00:29:03.167 --> 00:29:06.666
AND WHAT I LOVE IS THAT
EVEN IN YOUR STORY, LIKE

00:29:06.766 --> 00:29:09.033
YOU HAD THESE POWERFUL
ENCOUNTERS WITH GOD THAT

00:29:09.133 --> 00:29:12.066
SHIFTED EVERYTHING
IN YOUR LIFE, WHICH,

00:29:12.166 --> 00:29:14.733
SO YOU STARTED - I WANT TO
GET BACK INTO THE STORY.

00:29:14.833 --> 00:29:16.833
SO YOU GO INTO THE CHURCH,
YOU'RE LEARNING TO HEAR

00:29:16.933 --> 00:29:18.866
THE VOICE OF GOD.


00:29:18.966 --> 00:29:21.300
WHEN DO YOU COME TO
THE POINT OF

00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:22.433
FULLY SURRENDERING?


00:29:22.533 --> 00:29:23.333
BECAUSE YOU'RE
STILL IN COLLEGE,

00:29:23.433 --> 00:29:24.900
YOU'RE TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT YOUR PATH.

00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.466
I TOTALLY REMEMBER WHEN
I WAS ON THAT JOURNEY.

00:29:27.566 --> 00:29:28.933
I THINK SO MANY
PEOPLE LISTENING,

00:29:29.033 --> 00:29:30.800
IF THEY'RE IN COLLEGE OR
ABOUT TO GO TO COLLEGE,

00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:33.000
THAT'S HARD WHEN YOU'RE
TRYING TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT.

00:29:33.100 --> 00:29:34.599
YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT AM
I GOING TO DO WITH MY LIFE

00:29:34.699 --> 00:29:36.433
AND LIKE WHAT
DEGREE DO I PICK?

00:29:36.533 --> 00:29:38.366
SO YOU'RE LIKE SORTING
THINGS OUT THERE.

00:29:38.466 --> 00:29:41.233
SO HOW DID YOU GET ON THE
PATH THAT YOU WERE ON NOW?

00:29:41.333 --> 00:29:42.433
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


00:29:42.533 --> 00:29:44.100
SO AS I WAS GOING TO THE
CHURCH THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT,

00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.067
AND HAVING SOME
OF THOSE ENCOUNTERS,

00:29:47.167 --> 00:29:49.267
BACK UP QUITE A FEW
OF THOSE ENCOUNTERS,

00:29:49.367 --> 00:29:51.966
AND ONE OF THE, I GUESS
MOST POWERFUL ENCOUNTERS

00:29:52.066 --> 00:29:55.133
THAT I HAD WITH THE LORD
OF HIM REVEALING HIMSELF TO ME,

00:29:55.233 --> 00:29:58.133
I WAS KINDA ONE FOOT
IN AND ONE FOOT OUT.

00:29:58.233 --> 00:30:02.233
I WAS TRYING TO STOP
SINNING, RIGHT.

00:30:02.333 --> 00:30:05.066
I WAS REPENTANT IN HEART
BUT STILL IN A PARTY HOUSE

00:30:05.166 --> 00:30:06.533
WITH SIX GUYS WHERE
PARTIES ARE

00:30:06.633 --> 00:30:09.033
HAPPENING CONSTANTLY.


00:30:09.133 --> 00:30:11.766
SO FOR ME, IT WAS LIKE
THIS TEMPTATION WAS

00:30:11.866 --> 00:30:14.066
CONSTANTLY IN
FRONT OF MY FACE.

00:30:14.166 --> 00:30:16.733
AND THE LORD WAS
TEACHING ME TO SAY NO.

00:30:16.833 --> 00:30:18.500
AND THERE WERE TIMES WHERE
I WOULD SAY NO AND THEN

00:30:18.600 --> 00:30:21.900
THERE WERE TIMES WHERE
I WOULD GIVE IN TO

00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:24.300
CONTINUING IN THAT
LIFESTYLE OF SIN.

00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:26.299
SO I WAS PROBABLY
HALF-IN, HALF-OUT.

00:30:26.399 --> 00:30:28.033
HALF THE TIME, HEY, I
WAS HANGING OUT WITH MY

00:30:28.133 --> 00:30:29.233
CHRISTIAN FRIENDS,
GOING TO CHURCH.

00:30:29.333 --> 00:30:31.466
HALF THE TIME, I GET
SUCKED BACK IN TO HANG OUT

00:30:31.566 --> 00:30:33.666
WITH MY FRATERNITY
BROTHERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

00:30:33.766 --> 00:30:36.800
SO I WAS AT A
FRATERNITY PARTY,

00:30:36.900 --> 00:30:38.133
IT WAS CALLED BIG
BROTHER NIGHT,

00:30:38.233 --> 00:30:40.000
AND IT WAS JUST THE GUYS,
WE WOULD GATHER TOGETHER,

00:30:40.100 --> 00:30:41.733
IT'S WHEN SOMEONE OLDER
IN THE FRATERNITY

00:30:41.833 --> 00:30:43.166
TAKES YOU UNDER THEIR WING.


00:30:43.266 --> 00:30:45.100
SO WE HAD GONE OUT,
MY BIG BROTHER HAD BOUGHT ME

00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.200
A FIFTH OF WHISKEY, I WAS
SUPPOSED TO DRINK IT ALL,

00:30:47.300 --> 00:30:49.033
WE WERE SMOKING WEED.


00:30:49.133 --> 00:30:52.200
THEY ORDERED STRIPPERS TO COME
OVER TO THIS PARTY HOUSE,

00:30:52.300 --> 00:30:54.366
AND SOMEONE PITCHED
UP AN EXTRA 500 BUCKS,

00:30:54.466 --> 00:30:56.700
AND THINGS HAPPENED
THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

00:30:56.800 --> 00:30:58.433
AND THAT WAS A
TUESDAY EVENING.

00:30:58.533 --> 00:31:01.466
THE NEXT DAY ON WEDNESDAY,
I WENT TO CHURCH,

00:31:01.566 --> 00:31:02.900
AND THERE WAS A PROPHET
THAT WAS THERE,

00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.400
WHICH I WAS SUPER
SKEPTICAL ABOUT THAT

00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:06.999
UP TO THAT POINT, BUT HE
PREACHED A MESSAGE,

00:31:07.099 --> 00:31:08.533
AND THEN AT THE
END OF THAT,

00:31:08.633 --> 00:31:10.200
HE INVITED PEOPLE
TO COME FORWARD

00:31:10.300 --> 00:31:12.833
AND TO RECEIVE MINISTRY.


00:31:12.933 --> 00:31:15.433
SO HE STARTED DOWN HERE AT
THE END OF A PRAYER LINE,

00:31:15.533 --> 00:31:17.233
AND I'M ALL THE
WAY OVER HERE.

00:31:17.333 --> 00:31:19.400
AND HE STARTS GIVING
ENCOURAGING MESSAGES,

00:31:19.500 --> 00:31:20.567
GOD'S GOT AN AMAZING
PLAN FOR YOUR LIFE,

00:31:20.667 --> 00:31:21.767
THIS AND THAT.


00:31:21.867 --> 00:31:24.333
SO I'M SITTING THERE
ASHAMED AND GUILTY,

00:31:24.433 --> 00:31:26.233
KNOWING WHAT I DID THE
NIGHT BEFORE,

00:31:26.333 --> 00:31:27.933
BUT TRYING TO GET SOME RELIEF.


00:31:28.033 --> 00:31:29.367
I CAME TO CHURCH
BECAUSE I'M LIKE,

00:31:29.467 --> 00:31:31.400
UH, I'VE GOT TO
ESCAPE THIS GUILT.

00:31:31.500 --> 00:31:32.799
I'VE GOT TO
ESCAPE THIS SHAME.

00:31:32.899 --> 00:31:34.600
I KNOW I SHOULDN'T
HAVE DONE IT.

00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:37.033
SO HE GETS TO ME, AND I'M,
AT THIS POINT, I'M LIKE,

00:31:37.133 --> 00:31:38.933
OKAY, THIS GUY'S GOING
TO SAY SOMETHING REALLY

00:31:39.033 --> 00:31:41.566
ENCOURAGING AND
FLUFFY AND NICE.

00:31:41.666 --> 00:31:44.200
AND HE GETS TO ME,
AND HE GOES TO TALK,

00:31:44.300 --> 00:31:47.066
AND THEN HE STOPPED, AND
THEN HE JUST SIGHED.

00:31:47.166 --> 00:31:49.366
AND HE PUT HIS HAND ON
MY SHOULDER AND HE SAID,

00:31:49.466 --> 00:31:51.200
YOU'VE SEEN SOME THINGS
VERY RECENTLY THAT YOU

00:31:51.300 --> 00:31:52.533
SHOULD HAVE NEVER SEEN.


00:31:52.633 --> 00:31:53.999
AND THAT WAS LIKE THE
DEVIL TYING A ROPE

00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:55.266
AROUND YOUR NECK.


00:31:55.366 --> 00:31:57.900
BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU
THAT GOD IS SETTING YOU FREE,

00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:59.399
BUT YOU NEED TO BE
VERY CAREFUL THAT YOU NEVER

00:31:59.499 --> 00:32:01.833
SEE THOSE THINGS
AGAIN BECAUSE SOMETIMES

00:32:01.933 --> 00:32:04.767
THE DEVIL WILL DOUBLE-KNOT
THE ROPE THE SECOND TIME,

00:32:04.867 --> 00:32:06.266
BUT GOD IS
SETTING YOU FREE.

00:32:06.366 --> 00:32:07.733
AND THEN HE MOVED ON.


00:32:07.833 --> 00:32:10.300
AND I WAS JUST LEFT THERE
AS HE MOVES ON TO THESE

00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:13.633
OTHER PEOPLE WITH THIS
FEAR BUT PEACE

00:32:13.733 --> 00:32:14.966
AT THE SAME TIME.


00:32:15.066 --> 00:32:17.833
A HEALTHY FEAR, NOT A
BONDAGE KIND OF FEAR,

00:32:17.933 --> 00:32:20.666
BUT A HEALTHY FEAR
OF THE LORD OF, HEY,

00:32:20.766 --> 00:32:22.733
I HAD THE DEVIL'S ROPE
AROUND MY NECK

00:32:22.833 --> 00:32:24.666
BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST
DID LAST NIGHT,

00:32:24.766 --> 00:32:26.800
AND I DON'T WANT TO
GO BACK INTO THAT.

00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:29.633
I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE
TO DO THOSE THINGS.

00:32:29.733 --> 00:32:32.500
BUT ALSO, THERE'S SUCH
A PEACE THAT, HEY,

00:32:32.600 --> 00:32:34.099
GOD KNOWS ME.


00:32:34.199 --> 00:32:37.200
THERE'S SUCH SECURITY AND
PEACE IN EVEN KNOWING THAT

00:32:37.300 --> 00:32:39.899
A HUNDRED PERCENT,
HE'S REAL.

00:32:39.999 --> 00:32:40.799
AND THAT HE
CARES ABOUT ME.

00:32:40.899 --> 00:32:42.067
HE LOVES ME.


00:32:42.167 --> 00:32:43.133
THAT HE'S MERCIFUL.


00:32:43.233 --> 00:32:45.333
THAT HE JUST SET ME FREE
FROM THE BAD DECISION

00:32:45.433 --> 00:32:48.200
THAT I JUST MADE THE
NIGHT BEFORE.

00:32:48.300 --> 00:32:51.300
I WAS ACTUALLY READING NOT
TOO LONG AGO IN THE BIBLE,

00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.666
AND IT WAS SPEAKING OF,
HE'S TAKEN MANY PEOPLE CAPTIVE.

00:32:54.766 --> 00:32:57.333
HE'S LIKE CAUGHT - THE
DEVIL HAS CAUGHT MANY PEOPLE

00:32:57.433 --> 00:33:00.933
CAPTIVE IN A
SNARE TO DO HIS WILL.

00:33:01.033 --> 00:33:03.166
AND THAT WORD, THAT
GREEK WORD, SNARE,

00:33:03.266 --> 00:33:05.500
ACTUALLY CAN
REPRESENT A NOOSE,

00:33:05.600 --> 00:33:08.799
WHICH IS PERFECTLY WHAT
THE DEVIL HAD AROUND MY NECK

00:33:08.899 --> 00:33:10.733
THAT THE
PROPHET CALLED OUT.

00:33:10.833 --> 00:33:12.100
AND THAT JUST HIT ME
LIKE A FEW WEEKS AGO,

00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.766
AND I WAS LOOKING
AT THAT GREEK WORD.

00:33:14.866 --> 00:33:19.100
BUT THAT MOMENT WAS A HUGE
MOMENT FOR ME IN NEVER DOUBTING

00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.199
IF GOD WAS REAL
AGAIN AND KNOWING HIS

00:33:22.299 --> 00:33:25.133
TRUE CHARACTER TOWARDS ME AND
HIS LOVE TOWARDS ME;

00:33:25.233 --> 00:33:26.833
THAT HE WASN'T JUST
WAITING TO STRIKE ME DOWN

00:33:26.933 --> 00:33:29.233
WITH A FIRE BOLT, THAT HE
WASN'T JUST ANGRY AND MAD

00:33:29.333 --> 00:33:32.933
AT ME OR SCOLDING ME
AND SENDING ME AWAY.

00:33:33.033 --> 00:33:34.767
BUT HE WAS ACTUALLY
SETTING ME FREE AND

00:33:34.867 --> 00:33:38.133
WELCOMING ME TO HIM AND
GIVING ME THIS LOVING WARNING

00:33:38.233 --> 00:33:41.567
OF DON'T
GO BACK INTO THAT.

00:33:41.667 --> 00:33:44.033
AND FROM THAT MOMENT
MOVING FORWARD

00:33:44.133 --> 00:33:47.966
IN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM,
IT WAS REALLY JUST,

00:33:48.066 --> 00:33:50.266
IT'S SIMILAR TO A
RELATIONSHIP WITH A FRIEND

00:33:50.366 --> 00:33:52.600
IN THE SENSE OF, WHEN
YOU FIRST MEET A FRIEND,

00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:54.000
THERE ARE PROBABLY MANY
PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING

00:33:54.100 --> 00:33:55.800
RIGHT NOW THAT
HAVE A BEST FRIEND.

00:33:55.900 --> 00:33:57.433
WHEN YOU FIRST
MET THAT FRIEND,

00:33:57.533 --> 00:33:58.966
WHETHER IT WAS IN
SCHOOL OR AT WORK,

00:33:59.066 --> 00:34:01.433
WHEREVER IT MIGHT BE, YOU
DIDN'T KNOW HIM AT ALL, RIGHT.

00:34:01.533 --> 00:34:03.000
THERE'S SOME SMALL TALK,
MAYBE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT

00:34:03.100 --> 00:34:05.833
AWKWARD, MAYBE YOU HIT
IT OFF THE BAT RIGHT AT FIRST.

00:34:05.933 --> 00:34:07.500
BUT YOU DIDN'T
KNOW EACH OTHER.

00:34:07.600 --> 00:34:09.499
AND THEN FAST-FORWARD
FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD,

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.399
TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD,
NOW THAT YOU'VE HUNG OUT,

00:34:11.499 --> 00:34:12.600
YOU'VE SPENT
TIME TOGETHER,

00:34:12.700 --> 00:34:14.333
YOU WERE SITTING ON THE
COUCH EATING POPCORN

00:34:14.433 --> 00:34:15.799
WATCHING A MOVIE TOGETHER,
ALL THOSE THINGS THAT

00:34:15.899 --> 00:34:19.100
FRIENDS DO, NOW YOU KNOW
THEM SO MUCH MORE

00:34:19.200 --> 00:34:20.433
THAN YOU DID BEFORE.


00:34:20.533 --> 00:34:21.699
AND FAST-FORWARD
ANOTHER TEN YEARS,

00:34:21.799 --> 00:34:24.100
YOU'RE GOING TO
KNOW THEM SO MUCH MORE THEN.

00:34:24.200 --> 00:34:27.266
SO IT'S BEEN THIS JOURNEY
WITH GOD OF GETTING TO

00:34:27.366 --> 00:34:30.866
KNOW HIM MORE AND MORE,
EVEN ON A DAILY BASIS.

00:34:30.966 --> 00:34:32.699
AND MOST FRIENDSHIPS, THE
WAY YOU GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER,

00:34:32.799 --> 00:34:35.000
IS SPENDING
TIME TOGETHER.

00:34:35.100 --> 00:34:37.366
SO IN SPENDING MORE
AND MORE TIME WITH HIM,

00:34:37.466 --> 00:34:41.000
IT'S BEEN THIS JOURNEY OF
JUST GETTING TO KNOW HIM

00:34:41.100 --> 00:34:43.966
AND THEN ALLOWING HIM
TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO THOSE

00:34:44.066 --> 00:34:45.366
WHO ARE AROUND US.


00:34:45.466 --> 00:34:46.933
REBECCA: AND WHAT I
LOVE ABOUT THAT STORY

00:34:47.033 --> 00:34:51.599
IS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE
PROPHETIC IS THAT

00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:54.666
GOD WORKS THROUGH A PERSON TO
BASICALLY LET THAT PERSON

00:34:54.766 --> 00:34:56.599
WHO'S RECEIVING THE
PROPHETIC MINISTRY KNOW

00:34:56.699 --> 00:34:58.900
THAT HE SEES THEM,
THAT HE LOVES THEM,

00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.900
HE KNOWS EXACTLY
WHERE THEY'RE AT.

00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:03.833
BUT ALSO THAT HE CAN WARN
AND GUIDE THROUGH THE

00:35:03.933 --> 00:35:05.200
PROPHETIC, AS WELL.


00:35:05.300 --> 00:35:08.133
AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE
LIFE-CHANGING MOMENTS,

00:35:08.233 --> 00:35:10.967
A DEFINING MOMENT IN YOUR
LIFE WHERE YOU REALIZE,

00:35:11.067 --> 00:35:12.766
I AM NOT GOING -
WERE YOU LIKE,

00:35:12.866 --> 00:35:14.466
I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ONE
FOOT IN AND ONE FOOT OUT

00:35:14.566 --> 00:35:17.700
ANYMORE AFTER THAT POINT,
OR TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE?

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.133
NICHOLAS: YES.


00:35:19.233 --> 00:35:21.700
THAT WAS A BIG STEP
FORWARD AND GAVE ME A LOT

00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.766
OF COURAGE TO
START SAYING NO.

00:35:23.866 --> 00:35:26.533
I CAN'T SAY FROM THAT
MOMENT FORWARD I NEVER

00:35:26.633 --> 00:35:28.667
DRANK ANOTHER DRINK OF
ALCOHOL OR NEVER DID

00:35:28.767 --> 00:35:29.933
ANYTHING AGAIN.


00:35:30.033 --> 00:35:32.266
I DID HAVE A SUMMER
THAT I BACKSLID,

00:35:32.366 --> 00:35:33.766
WHEN I GOT AWAY
FROM CHURCH,

00:35:33.866 --> 00:35:36.799
WHEN I GOT AWAY FROM
THOSE CHRISTIAN FRIENDS

00:35:36.899 --> 00:35:37.833
THAT I WAS AROUND.


00:35:37.933 --> 00:35:39.366
I ACTUALLY MOVED FROM
BOWLING GREEN UP TO

00:35:39.466 --> 00:35:41.666
LOUISVILLE TO
WORK FOR A SUMMER.

00:35:41.766 --> 00:35:43.733
GOT AROUND SOME
OLD FRIENDS,

00:35:43.833 --> 00:35:46.867
WHICH THE BIBLE SAYS BAD
COMPANY CORRUPTS GOOD MORALS.

00:35:46.967 --> 00:35:47.899
THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED.

00:35:47.999 --> 00:35:50.166
I GOT BACK IN
WITH OLD FRIENDS.

00:35:50.266 --> 00:35:51.300
AND I WAS ACTUALLY
WITNESSING TO THEM,

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.800
I WAS TALKING TO
THEM ABOUT JESUS.

00:35:53.900 --> 00:35:56.433
BUT THAT BAD COMPANY
CORRUPTED THE GOOD MORALS,

00:35:56.533 --> 00:35:59.233
AND I GOT SUCKED
IN AND BACKSLID.

00:35:59.333 --> 00:36:01.333
BUT THEN THE
PRODIGAL SON STORY,

00:36:01.433 --> 00:36:03.633
THE LORD WELCOMED
ME BACK IN,

00:36:03.733 --> 00:36:05.300
AND I HAVEN'T SLID BACK
SINCE THEN, PRAISE GOD.

00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.066
THAT WAS PROBABLY 11 YEARS
AGO, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.

00:36:09.166 --> 00:36:10.833
REBECCA: DO YOU THINK
THAT WHEN YOU WENT OUT

00:36:10.933 --> 00:36:13.733
FOR THAT SUMMER AND YOU FELL
BACK INTO THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE,

00:36:13.833 --> 00:36:15.466
DO YOU THINK WHEN
YOU, LIKE THE PRODIGAL,

00:36:15.566 --> 00:36:16.966
WHEN YOU CAME HOME,
YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY,

00:36:17.066 --> 00:36:18.767
MY LIFE REALLY
IS FULLY YOURS?

00:36:18.867 --> 00:36:20.133
NICHOLAS: MM-HM.


00:36:20.233 --> 00:36:22.400
YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY.


00:36:22.500 --> 00:36:25.666
JUST FOR GOD TO WELCOME ME
BACK IN, IT HONESTLY FELT,

00:36:25.766 --> 00:36:27.000
NOW THAT I'M
THINKING ABOUT IT,

00:36:27.100 --> 00:36:29.333
IT FELT LIKE COMING HOME.


00:36:29.433 --> 00:36:31.400
BECAUSE I CAME BACK TO
COLLEGE AND I GOT BACK

00:36:31.500 --> 00:36:33.966
INTO CAMPUS MINISTRY.


00:36:34.066 --> 00:36:35.733
AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT
OF SHAME THAT HAD TO BE

00:36:35.833 --> 00:36:37.633
BROKEN OFF OF
ME, OBVIOUSLY,

00:36:37.733 --> 00:36:39.167
LIKE GETTING BACK IN WITH
MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS

00:36:39.267 --> 00:36:42.599
IN CHRIST, GETTING BACK INTO,
WE HAD WORSHIP MEETINGS

00:36:42.699 --> 00:36:44.533
ON CAMPUS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.

00:36:44.633 --> 00:36:49.800
SO IT FELT A LITTLE BIT
LIKE CAN I REALLY BE HERE

00:36:49.900 --> 00:36:51.133
BECAUSE OF THE SHAME?


00:36:51.233 --> 00:36:52.933
REBECCA: THE DEVIL
USES SHAME TO TRY TO KEEP YOU

00:36:53.033 --> 00:36:56.100
FROM GOD AND WHAT
HE'S CALLED YOU TO DO.

00:36:56.200 --> 00:36:57.533
LIKE, OH, YOU CAN'T BE
HERE, YOU MESSED UP.

00:36:57.633 --> 00:37:00.100
SO HE TRIES TO
ENSNARE YOU,

00:37:00.200 --> 00:37:03.433
AND THEN HE USES THE GUILT
OF THE SIN TO PARALYZE YOU.

00:37:03.533 --> 00:37:04.533
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


00:37:04.633 --> 00:37:05.833
TO TRY TO KEEP US AWAY.


00:37:05.933 --> 00:37:07.967
IT'S LIKE A
VIPER, THE VENOM,

00:37:08.067 --> 00:37:09.766
TRY TO PARALYZE YOU.


00:37:09.866 --> 00:37:11.400
BUT QUICKLY, THAT
WAS BROKEN OFF,

00:37:11.500 --> 00:37:14.066
THAT SHAME WAS BROKEN OFF,
PROBABLY THROUGH EVEN

00:37:14.166 --> 00:37:16.400
MINISTRY FROM PEERS, THAT
THERE WAS SOME OLDER PEOPLE

00:37:16.500 --> 00:37:19.733
WHO WERE IN THE
MINISTRY WHO PROBABLY

00:37:19.833 --> 00:37:20.766
SPOKE PROPHETIC WORDS.


00:37:20.866 --> 00:37:22.266
AND I'M TRYING TO
REMEMBER PERFECTLY.

00:37:22.366 --> 00:37:23.466
BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY
SOME MINISTRY AND THINGS

00:37:23.566 --> 00:37:26.566
LIKE THAT THAT WENT ON
WHERE THAT SHAME WAS

00:37:26.666 --> 00:37:30.300
BROKEN OFF AND IT FELT
LIKE I WAS HOME AGAIN,

00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.867
JUST LIKE JUMPING BACK IN
WITH THE LORD'S WILL

00:37:32.967 --> 00:37:34.966
AND HIS PLAN FOR MY LIFE.


00:37:35.066 --> 00:37:36.266
I'M NOT ENCOURAGING
SIN AT ALL,

00:37:36.366 --> 00:37:37.933
I'M JUST ENCOURAGING THE
MERCY AND THE COMPASSION

00:37:38.033 --> 00:37:41.000
OF GOD IN WELCOMING HIS
CHILDREN BACK HOME

00:37:41.100 --> 00:37:43.566
WHEN THEY'RE TRULY REPENTANT
WITH A HEART OF,

00:37:43.666 --> 00:37:45.167
I DON'T WANT TO
KEEP DOING THAT.

00:37:45.267 --> 00:37:46.699
DAD, I WANT TO COME HOME.


00:37:46.799 --> 00:37:47.733
REBECCA: NO.


00:37:47.833 --> 00:37:49.166
I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE
ACTUALLY HITTING A REALLY

00:37:49.266 --> 00:37:52.233
IMPORTANT POINT, WHICH IS
THAT GOD IS WORKING IN OUR LIVES

00:37:52.333 --> 00:37:54.433
AND HE'S GRACIOUS
AND HE'S MERCIFUL.

00:37:54.533 --> 00:37:56.699
AND I HAVE LIKE A SIMILAR
TESTIMONY WHERE GOD KEPT

00:37:56.799 --> 00:37:59.367
SPEAKING TO ME, AND I
WAS HAVING ENCOUNTERS,

00:37:59.467 --> 00:38:01.533
AND THEN I FINALLY
GOT TO A POINT.

00:38:01.633 --> 00:38:03.266
BUT I STRUGGLED BACK AND
FORTH WITH MY FRIENDS AND

00:38:03.366 --> 00:38:05.600
MY OWN STUFF, SO I TOTALLY
KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM,

00:38:05.700 --> 00:38:07.400
BUT THERE WAS A
MOMENT WHERE IT WAS LIKE,

00:38:07.500 --> 00:38:11.299
OKAY, PUTTING MY FOOT
DOWN, I SURRENDER MY LIFE,

00:38:11.399 --> 00:38:13.733
AND I'M WILLING TO GO ALL
IN AND DO WHATEVER

00:38:13.833 --> 00:38:15.233
YOU WANT ME TO DO.


00:38:15.333 --> 00:38:17.733
AND THAT'S WHEN THINGS
REALLY SHIFTED,

00:38:17.833 --> 00:38:19.433
AND THEN THE
INFLUENCE OF OTHERS.

00:38:19.533 --> 00:38:20.566
BUT YOU HAVE TO
LOSE SOME THINGS,

00:38:20.666 --> 00:38:23.067
YOU SACRIFICE SOME THINGS,
YOU SHIFT THINGS AROUND,

00:38:23.167 --> 00:38:25.267
BUT YOU'RE LIKE,
MY LIFE IS YOURS.

00:38:25.367 --> 00:38:26.999
WHICH SOMETHING LIKE THAT
HAPPENED TO YOU

00:38:27.099 --> 00:38:29.000
WITH THE COMPUTER.


00:38:29.100 --> 00:38:30.300
NICHOLAS: YEAH, YEAH.


00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:31.733
REBECCA: SO WAS THAT
AFTER WHEN YOU CAME BACK?

00:38:31.833 --> 00:38:33.000
NICHOLAS: IT WAS, YEAH.


00:38:33.100 --> 00:38:33.999
REBECCA: OKAY,
TELL THAT STORY.

00:38:34.099 --> 00:38:35.100
NICHOLAS: SO IT WAS
AFTER I CAME BACK.

00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:37.866
THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF
THE CONFIRMATIONS I HAD

00:38:37.966 --> 00:38:40.900
BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL TO
BE A FINANCIAL PLANNER,

00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.033
BUT WHILE I WAS LIVING FOR GOD
BEFORE I BACKSLID,

00:38:43.133 --> 00:38:45.166
I WAS REALLY
WRESTLING ON THE INSIDE.

00:38:45.266 --> 00:38:48.533
AND I JUST FELT LIKE I'M
STUDYING FOR SOMETHING

00:38:48.633 --> 00:38:50.266
I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO USE.


00:38:50.366 --> 00:38:52.666
I'M NOT GOING TO DO THIS
FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

00:38:52.766 --> 00:38:53.933
SO I WAS REALLY WRESTLING
WITH IT THE SUMMER

00:38:54.033 --> 00:38:55.400
THAT I BACKSLID.


00:38:55.500 --> 00:38:57.499
I GOT REALLY PASSIONATE
ABOUT FINANCIAL PLANNING,

00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.033
SUPER EXCITED, PUMPED
UP ABOUT IT, LET'S GO.

00:39:00.133 --> 00:39:02.200
CAME BACK TO SCHOOL, GOT
BACK IN WITH MY

00:39:02.300 --> 00:39:03.967
CHRISTIAN FRIENDS AT
CAMPUS MINISTRY,

00:39:04.067 --> 00:39:06.900
THE LOCAL CHURCH, AND
STARTED WRESTLING

00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.400
AND STRUGGLING REALLY BAD.


00:39:08.500 --> 00:39:10.000
SO I WAS PROBABLY
TWO-THIRDS OF THE WAY

00:39:10.100 --> 00:39:13.299
THROUGH MY SEMESTER AND I
WAS DOWN IN THE LIBRARY

00:39:13.399 --> 00:39:16.133
ALONE BY MYSELF STUDYING,
AND IT JUST

00:39:16.233 --> 00:39:17.833
BECAME OVERWHELMING.


00:39:17.933 --> 00:39:19.600
AND I TOLD GOD, I DON'T
WANT TO DO THIS

00:39:19.700 --> 00:39:21.300
FOR ANOTHER SECOND.


00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:22.633
IF YOU DON'T WANT
ME TO DO THIS,

00:39:22.733 --> 00:39:24.866
IF THIS ISN'T YOUR WILL,
I DON'T WANT TO WASTE

00:39:24.966 --> 00:39:28.433
ANOTHER MOMENT, GOD, I
NEED YOU TO LET ME KNOW.

00:39:28.533 --> 00:39:30.566
AND I COULD FEEL THE
PRESENCE OF GOD LIKE

00:39:30.666 --> 00:39:32.000
REALLY THICK IN THE AIR.


00:39:32.100 --> 00:39:34.433
I HAD MY LAPTOP OPEN
BECAUSE I WAS STUDYING.

00:39:34.533 --> 00:39:38.033
AND I JUST STARTED WRITING
IN AN OPEN DOCUMENT,

00:39:38.133 --> 00:39:40.166
AND GOT ALL THE WAY
DOWN TO THE BOTTOM,

00:39:40.266 --> 00:39:42.666
DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WHAT I
WAS TYPING, HAD NO IDEA,

00:39:42.766 --> 00:39:45.833
AND THEN IT WAS LIKE
THE FLOW JUST STOPPED,

00:39:45.933 --> 00:39:46.733
AND IT WAS LIKE, OKAY,
I DON'T HAVE

00:39:46.833 --> 00:39:48.000
ANYTHING ELSE TO TYPE.


00:39:48.100 --> 00:39:51.000
SO I STARTED READING OVER
WHAT I HAD JUST TYPED,

00:39:51.100 --> 00:39:52.900
AND IT WAS GOD GIVING ME
INSTRUCTIONS FOR

00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:54.566
THE NEXT YEAR OF MY LIFE.


00:39:54.666 --> 00:39:56.533
A COUPLE OF THE
INSTRUCTIONS WERE

00:39:56.633 --> 00:39:58.499
STUDY THE WORD, JUST LIKE
YOU'VE BEEN STUDYING

00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.400
YOUR TEXTBOOKS FOR COLLEGE,
AND IT HAD TO DO WITH

00:40:01.500 --> 00:40:03.466
EVANGELISM; STARTING TO GO
OUT AND SHARE MY FAITH

00:40:03.566 --> 00:40:04.867
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.


00:40:04.967 --> 00:40:09.133
SO THAT GAVE ME, YEAH,
INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT NEXT YEAR,

00:40:09.233 --> 00:40:11.500
AND THEN THE JOURNEY
JUST CONTINUED ON AND ON.

00:40:11.600 --> 00:40:13.166
REBECCA: THAT IS JUST
SUCH A CRAZY STORY,

00:40:13.266 --> 00:40:14.566
BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY
WERE LIKE AT A MOMENT

00:40:14.666 --> 00:40:17.366
OF DECISION, AND THEN
YOU SAID, OKAY, GOD,

00:40:17.466 --> 00:40:20.199
YOU WERE LIKE, IF YOU
DON'T WANT ME TO DO THIS,

00:40:20.299 --> 00:40:22.566
I WON'T STUDY THIS FOR
ANOTHER SECOND LONGER,

00:40:22.666 --> 00:40:24.833
AND YOU WERE LIKE FULLY
OPEN TO WHATEVER HE WANTED,

00:40:24.933 --> 00:40:26.666
AND THEN YOU GOT LIKE
A DOWNLOAD FROM HEAVEN,

00:40:26.766 --> 00:40:27.999
DO YOU
REALIZE THAT?

00:40:28.099 --> 00:40:29.633
AND YOU LIKE
WORKED THROUGH YOU,

00:40:29.733 --> 00:40:30.966
AND THEN YOU HAD LIKE
THESE INSTRUCTIONS.

00:40:31.066 --> 00:40:33.333
THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE
COOLEST STORIES EVER.

00:40:33.433 --> 00:40:34.400
NICHOLAS: YEAH,
PRAISE GOD.

00:40:34.500 --> 00:40:35.800
REBECCA: SO WHAT
DID - SO AFTER THAT,

00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:37.233
WHAT WERE YOUR NEXT STEPS?


00:40:37.333 --> 00:40:39.900
I HAVE TO COMMEND
YOU BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.433
STEP OF FAITH, WHAT
YOU DID AFTERWARDS.

00:40:42.533 --> 00:40:44.166
BUT IT WAS IN
OBEDIENCE TO GOD.

00:40:44.266 --> 00:40:46.133
NICHOLAS: AMEN, AMEN,
IN OBEDIENCE TO GOD,

00:40:46.233 --> 00:40:47.100
FOLLOWING HIS LEAD.


00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:49.300
YEAH, I JUST DROPPED
OUT OF COLLEGE.

00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:50.400
I DIDN'T TAKE
ANYMORE TESTS,

00:40:50.500 --> 00:40:51.633
DIDN'T DO
ANYMORE HOMEWORK.

00:40:51.733 --> 00:40:53.933
WHICH, HONESTLY WAS A
GREAT RELIEF FOR ME.

00:40:54.033 --> 00:40:56.099
AND HONESTLY LOOKING
BACK, IT WAS A GOOD

00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.133
BRIDGE-BURNER BECAUSE I
HAD NOTHING TO GO BACK TO.

00:40:59.233 --> 00:41:03.599
IT WAS LIKE THE ISRAELITES
GOT LED OUT OF EGYPT,

00:41:03.699 --> 00:41:08.233
AND THEN SOME OF THEM WERE
LIKE, HEY, LET'S GO BACK.

00:41:08.333 --> 00:41:09.733
BUT IT WAS A BRIDGE-BURNER
TO WHERE

00:41:09.833 --> 00:41:11.033
I REALLY COULDN'T GO BACK.


00:41:11.133 --> 00:41:12.000
MAYBE I COULD HAVE, BUT IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN

00:41:12.100 --> 00:41:13.767
A STRUGGLE TO GO BACK.


00:41:13.867 --> 00:41:15.900
BUT, YEAH, I CONTINUED ON.


00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.899
AND HONESTLY, THE BIBLE
TALKS A LOT ABOUT

00:41:18.999 --> 00:41:22.633
YOU HAVE NEED OF ENDURANCE TO
CONTINUE IN THE FAITH.

00:41:22.733 --> 00:41:24.633
THERE ARE STORIES OF
RUNNING YOUR RACE,

00:41:24.733 --> 00:41:26.266
WHICH IS SOMETHING
YOU DON'T,

00:41:26.366 --> 00:41:28.867
LIKE A RACE ISN'T
SOMETHING YOU START

00:41:28.967 --> 00:41:30.499
AND THEN YOU GET A TROPHY.


00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.033
LIKE THE GOSPEL'S NOT
JUST A TICKET TO HEAVEN,

00:41:33.133 --> 00:41:35.367
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE
ENTRANCE INTO FOLLOWING JESUS,

00:41:35.467 --> 00:41:36.567
HIM BEING YOUR
KING, YOUR LORD,

00:41:36.667 --> 00:41:38.100
YOUR AUTHORITY.


00:41:38.200 --> 00:41:40.567
AND THEN LIVING
LIFE DOING HIS WILL.

00:41:40.667 --> 00:41:44.399
SO IT'S BEEN THIS
CONTINUAL THING OF

00:41:44.499 --> 00:41:46.133
SAYING YES TO HIM.


00:41:46.233 --> 00:41:48.800
STAYING CLOSE TO
HIM, FOLLOWING HIM.

00:41:48.900 --> 00:41:51.233
THIS CONTINUANCE IN
JESUS BEING MY KING,

00:41:51.333 --> 00:41:53.666
THIS CONTINUOUS IN
JESUS BEING MY LORD.

00:41:53.766 --> 00:41:56.733
AND, YES, WE ARE SAVED AT
THE BEGINNING OF THE RACE.

00:41:56.833 --> 00:41:58.433
LIKE WHEN WE FIRST START,
RIGHT, WE GET BORN AGAIN,

00:41:58.533 --> 00:41:59.699
WE ARE SAVED.


00:41:59.799 --> 00:42:02.266
IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, WE'RE
GOING TO BE WITH HIM FOREVER.

00:42:02.366 --> 00:42:05.900
BUT WE CAN'T JUST SIT DOWN
ON THE SIDE OF THE RACE

00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.800
AND JUST THINK THAT
EVERYTHING'S GOING TO

00:42:08.900 --> 00:42:10.033
WORK OUT WELL.


00:42:10.133 --> 00:42:11.733
WE'VE GOT TO
FINISH OUR RACE.

00:42:11.833 --> 00:42:14.466
SO IT'S BEEN THIS JOURNEY
OF JUST CONTINUALLY SAYING

00:42:14.566 --> 00:42:17.600
YES TO THE LORD
EACH AND EVERY DAY.

00:42:17.700 --> 00:42:19.633
AND THEN THERE'S
SMALLER YESES,

00:42:19.733 --> 00:42:20.433
BUT THEN THERE'S BIGGER.


00:42:20.533 --> 00:42:21.966
ALL OF THEM MATTER, RIGHT.


00:42:22.066 --> 00:42:24.066
BUT THEN THERE'S LIKE
THESE BIGGER THINGS THAT

00:42:24.166 --> 00:42:27.700
MAYBE WE'RE REALIZING
IN THE MOMENT THE COST.

00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.533
THERE'S GOING TO
BE A COST HERE.

00:42:30.633 --> 00:42:32.933
AND THEN WE JUST
CONTINUE TO SURRENDER.

00:42:33.033 --> 00:42:35.766
WE CONTINUE TO BE THAT
BOND SERVANT OR THAT

00:42:35.866 --> 00:42:38.599
FAITHFUL SON WHO IS
CONTINUALLY DOING

00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:40.833
THE FATHER'S WILL.


00:42:40.933 --> 00:42:42.199
AND IT'S JUST UNRAVELED.


00:42:42.299 --> 00:42:43.600
AND, REALLY, WE TALKED
ABOUT IT EARLIER,

00:42:43.700 --> 00:42:46.333
BUT FLOWING OUT OF
THE SECRET PLACE.

00:42:46.433 --> 00:42:47.966
I FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING
THAT'S BEEN PURE,

00:42:48.066 --> 00:42:51.699
THAT'S BEEN TRUE, GOOD
FRUIT IN MY LIFE,

00:42:51.799 --> 00:42:54.933
IT STARTED IN THE SECRET
PLACE OF HIM REVEALING

00:42:55.033 --> 00:42:58.233
HIS CHARACTER, WHO HE IS, AND
EVEN JUST SPEAKING OVER ME

00:42:58.333 --> 00:43:01.833
WHO I AM AS HIS SON, AND
EVERYTHING THAT JESUS

00:43:01.933 --> 00:43:04.367
ACCOMPLISHED FOR US
AND WHAT IT MEANS.

00:43:04.467 --> 00:43:07.333
THERE WERE TIMES WHERE
GOD WOULD SAY I LOVE YOU.

00:43:07.433 --> 00:43:09.133
IN THE SECRET PLACE, MAYBE
IN TIMES I'M STRUGGLING

00:43:09.233 --> 00:43:13.300
IN LIFE OR YOU FEEL LIKE
MAYBE YOU'RE GOING THROUGH

00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:14.666
A DRY SEASON.


00:43:14.766 --> 00:43:16.566
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THOSE.


00:43:16.666 --> 00:43:17.800
I WOULDN'T SAY IT
WAS A DRY SEASON,

00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:20.766
BUT JUST AT TIMES WHERE
GOD WOULD SAY I LOVE YOU,

00:43:20.866 --> 00:43:22.067
AND I'M NOT FEELING IT.


00:43:22.167 --> 00:43:24.433
I'M LIKE, GOD, THERE ARE
MOMENTS WHERE IT'S LIKE

00:43:24.533 --> 00:43:26.600
HIS PRESENCE IS JUST LIKE
PEACE AND THERE'S NOT

00:43:26.700 --> 00:43:28.766
A WORRY IN THE WORLD
AND THERE'S NO CARES.

00:43:28.866 --> 00:43:30.367
AND THEN THERE'S OTHER
TIMES WHERE YOU'RE PRAYING

00:43:30.467 --> 00:43:32.399
OR WORSHIPING, AND
IT'S LIKE, MAN,

00:43:32.499 --> 00:43:34.599
I'M REALLY HAVING TO PUT
SOME EFFORT INTO THIS.

00:43:34.699 --> 00:43:36.800
BUT TIMES WHERE
I WOULD SAY, GOD,

00:43:36.900 --> 00:43:38.700
I DON'T FEEL
LIKE YOU LOVE ME,

00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.367
AND IMMEDIATELY HE WOULD
SHOW ME THE CROSS.

00:43:41.467 --> 00:43:43.799
HE WOULD SHOW ME
JESUS DYING FOR ME,

00:43:43.899 --> 00:43:46.233
WHICH THE BIBLE SAYS
THERE'S NO GREATER ACT OF LOVE

00:43:46.333 --> 00:43:48.866
THAN FOR ONE TO LAY DOWN
THEIR LIFE FOR THEIR FRIEND.

00:43:48.966 --> 00:43:51.466
SO EVEN IN THAT, EVEN IN
GOD SAYING I LOVE YOU

00:43:51.566 --> 00:43:53.133
AND ME NOT NECESSARILY
HAVING A FEELING,

00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.033
CONSTANTLY LOOKING BACK TO
WHAT JESUS DID AND REALLY

00:43:57.133 --> 00:43:58.199
PONDERING ON THAT.


00:43:58.299 --> 00:43:59.867
I FEEL LIKE THAT CAN
ALMOST BECOME A CLICHE THING.

00:43:59.967 --> 00:44:01.199
IT NEVER SHOULD.


00:44:01.299 --> 00:44:02.900
BUT IN THE CHURCH,
IT'S LIKE, OH, YEAH,

00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:04.667
EASTER'S HERE AGAIN.


00:44:04.767 --> 00:44:06.633
OH, YEAH, JESUS DIED
FOR US ON THE CROSS.

00:44:06.733 --> 00:44:08.800
YEAH, HE WAS RESURRECTED
FROM THE DEAD.

00:44:08.900 --> 00:44:10.867
AND IT'S LIKE THIS THING
THAT'S LIKE, OKAY,

00:44:10.967 --> 00:44:13.899
LET'S MOVE ON TO
DEEPER THINGS,

00:44:13.999 --> 00:44:15.866
OR LET'S MOVE ON TO MORE
SPIRITUAL THINGS.

00:44:15.966 --> 00:44:18.066
OR LET'S MOVE ON TO -


00:44:18.166 --> 00:44:20.466
AND COMING BACK TO
THAT, IT'S LIKE,

00:44:20.566 --> 00:44:21.566
IT DOESN'T GET DEEPER.


00:44:21.666 --> 00:44:24.700
LIKE EVERYTHING, THE CROSS
AND WHAT JESUS DID

00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.766
IN HIS RESURRECTION IS THE
CORE OF EVERYTHING;

00:44:27.866 --> 00:44:29.499
THE CORE OF GOD'S
LOVE, THE CORE OF

00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.467
RECONCILIATION, THE
CORE OF HIS MERCY,

00:44:32.567 --> 00:44:34.566
HIS FORGIVENESS.


00:44:34.666 --> 00:44:37.133
ALL THE CHARACTER OF
GOD IS SO BEAUTIFULLY

00:44:37.233 --> 00:44:40.166
DISPLAYED EVEN IN THE
CROSS AND JUST TAKING A

00:44:40.266 --> 00:44:43.600
MOMENT TO PONDER ON THAT
AND THINK ABOUT IT.

00:44:43.700 --> 00:44:48.200
AND EVEN THE THOUGHT THE
LORD REVEALED TO ME,

00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:51.666
THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
MY HANDS THAT WERE PIERCED

00:44:51.766 --> 00:44:53.666
BY THOSE NAILS, IT SHOULD
HAVE BEEN MY FEET.

00:44:53.766 --> 00:44:57.000
AND THEN TO THINK ABOUT,
I OFTENTIMES SHARE THIS,

00:44:57.100 --> 00:44:58.967
BUT HAVE YOU EVER HAD A
SPLINTER IN YOUR HAND?

00:44:59.067 --> 00:44:59.767
REBECCA: I HAVE.


00:44:59.867 --> 00:45:00.733
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


00:45:00.833 --> 00:45:01.467
AS A KID?


00:45:01.567 --> 00:45:02.533
REBECCA: YES.


00:45:02.633 --> 00:45:03.433
NICHOLAS: AND THEN WAS
IT YOUR MOM WHO GOT

00:45:03.533 --> 00:45:04.666
A NEEDLE AND WAS
TRYING TO GET IT OUT?

00:45:04.766 --> 00:45:05.566
REBECCA: MY UNCLE.


00:45:05.666 --> 00:45:06.500
NICHOLAS: YOUR UNCLE.


00:45:06.600 --> 00:45:07.533
REBECCA: YEAH, IT
WAS MAKING ME LAUGH.

00:45:07.633 --> 00:45:08.833
IT'S A FAMILY
JOKE, BUT YES,

00:45:08.933 --> 00:45:09.966
I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS.


00:45:10.066 --> 00:45:11.100
[ LAUGHING ]


00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:13.300
NICHOLAS: AND THEY
GO A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR,

00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.866
AND LIKE IN YOUR FINGER
AND IT HURTS SO BAD.

00:45:16.966 --> 00:45:21.466
JUST A LITTLE-BITTY NEEDLE
WITH A LITTLE FINE END TO IT,

00:45:21.566 --> 00:45:22.766
AND YOU'RE SITTING
THERE CRYING AND SCREAMING

00:45:22.866 --> 00:45:24.333
AND EVERYTHING ELSE,
OR AT LEAST I WAS,

00:45:24.433 --> 00:45:25.933
AND MY MOM WAS
TRYING TO GET IT.

00:45:26.033 --> 00:45:29.966
BUT TO THEN JUST PICTURE,
LIKE IF YOU TOOK THAT NEEDLE

00:45:30.066 --> 00:45:31.933
AND PUSHED IT ALL
THE WAY THROUGH YOUR HAND.

00:45:32.033 --> 00:45:32.633
REBECCA: NO.


00:45:32.733 --> 00:45:33.599
NICHOLAS:
LIKE THE PAIN.

00:45:33.699 --> 00:45:34.600
REBECCA: IT WAS WAY
THICKER THAN THAT,

00:45:34.700 --> 00:45:35.267
EVER TO THAT.


00:45:35.367 --> 00:45:36.233
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


00:45:36.333 --> 00:45:37.867
AND THEN MAXIMIZE
THAT TO NOW A HUGE -

00:45:37.967 --> 00:45:38.933
REBECCA: IT'S
FEET AND HANDS.

00:45:39.033 --> 00:45:41.000
NICHOLAS: YEAH,
TO A HUGE NAIL,

00:45:41.100 --> 00:45:43.133
AND TO LITERALLY LIKE EVEN
JUST TO THINK OF THIS,

00:45:43.233 --> 00:45:45.833
LIKE WHAT IF
SOMEONE TOLD YOU,

00:45:45.933 --> 00:45:48.166
AS SOON AS YOU
GO OUT OF HERE,

00:45:48.266 --> 00:45:52.500
SOMEONE IS LIKE GOING TO
DRIVE A NAIL THROUGH YOUR HAND,

00:45:52.600 --> 00:45:54.833
AND JUST THE WEIGHT
OF KNOWING THAT'S GOING TO

00:45:54.933 --> 00:45:56.533
HAPPEN IN
LITERALLY AN HOUR,

00:45:56.633 --> 00:45:58.666
LIKE TRULY FACING
THE TRUTH OF,

00:45:58.766 --> 00:46:01.500
THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN
TO ME IN ABOUT AN HOUR.

00:46:01.600 --> 00:46:02.900
LIKE WHAT'S THAT
GOING TO FEEL LIKE.

00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.333
THAT'S WHAT JESUS,
HE'S IN THE GARDEN

00:46:05.433 --> 00:46:07.733
AND HE'S PRAYING AND HE'S
SWEATING BLOOD

00:46:07.833 --> 00:46:10.699
BECAUSE HE KNOWS, FATHER, IF
THERE'S ANOTHER WAY.

00:46:10.799 --> 00:46:13.067
HE HAD ALREADY PROPHESIED
HIS RESURRECTION,

00:46:13.167 --> 00:46:14.300
SO HE KNEW WHAT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN,

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.399
HE KNEW HE WAS
GOING TO DIE.

00:46:16.499 --> 00:46:17.900
REBECCA: BUT HE
KNEW HE HAD TO SUFFER,

00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:19.366
AND THE SUFFERING WAS
GOING TO BE GREAT,

00:46:19.466 --> 00:46:22.433
AND IT WAS SUCH A TOLL ON
HIM THAT HE SWEATED BLOOD.

00:46:22.533 --> 00:46:25.567
BECAUSE THAT'S A MEDICAL
- THAT'S A REAL THING MEDICALLY.

00:46:25.667 --> 00:46:27.399
IF SOMEONE'S UNDER
GREAT DISTRESS,

00:46:27.499 --> 00:46:29.266
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENS WHERE THE BLOOD VESSELS

00:46:29.366 --> 00:46:33.966
WILL LIKE POP
AND YOU WILL ACTUALLY,

00:46:34.066 --> 00:46:35.967
OR THERE'S SOMETHING
WHERE IT'S A REAL THING,

00:46:36.067 --> 00:46:38.766
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE
UNDER SEVERE DISTRESS.

00:46:38.866 --> 00:46:41.566
SO THAT JUST SHOWS HOW
GREATLY HE WAS THINKING.

00:46:41.666 --> 00:46:44.333
BECAUSE I CAN'T EVEN
IMAGINE THE MENTAL

00:46:44.433 --> 00:46:46.300
AND EMOTIONAL TOLL OF THINKING
YOU'RE ABOUT TO

00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:47.333
GO TO THE CROSS.


00:46:47.433 --> 00:46:48.199
NICHOLAS: RIGHT.


00:46:48.299 --> 00:46:49.266
YEAH.


00:46:49.366 --> 00:46:50.999
SO EVEN THAT, LIKE THAT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN US

00:46:51.099 --> 00:46:54.966
IN THERE IN THE GARDEN, LIKE
KNOWING OR WE PROBABLY

00:46:55.066 --> 00:46:56.933
WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A
JAIL CELL OR SOMETHING,

00:46:57.033 --> 00:47:00.433
KNOWING THAT I'M ABOUT
TO GO AND BE CRUCIFIED.

00:47:00.533 --> 00:47:02.166
THERE WERE CRIMINALS
WHO KNEW THAT.

00:47:02.266 --> 00:47:04.333
THINK ABOUT THE TWO THIEFS
THAT WERE BESIDE HIM.

00:47:04.433 --> 00:47:07.900
THEY KNOW THIS
IS WHAT'S COMING.

00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.733
AND THE FACT THAT THAT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME.

00:47:10.833 --> 00:47:11.833
THAT THAT SHOULD
HAVE BEEN YOU.

00:47:11.933 --> 00:47:14.066
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

00:47:14.166 --> 00:47:17.633
AND THEN JESUS STEPPED
INTO THAT PLACE BEING

00:47:17.733 --> 00:47:19.433
PERFECT, BEING INNOCENT.


00:47:19.533 --> 00:47:20.833
NEVER COMMITTING A CRIME.


00:47:20.933 --> 00:47:22.633
IT'S LIKE NONE OF
US DESERVE THAT.

00:47:22.733 --> 00:47:25.399
NONE OF US - WHO CAN SAY
I'VE DONE ENOUGH GOOD THINGS

00:47:25.499 --> 00:47:28.966
TO DESERVE THE SON OF GOD
LEAVING HIS THRONE

00:47:29.066 --> 00:47:31.033
AND COMING DOWN AND
DYING IN MY PLACE?

00:47:31.133 --> 00:47:33.100
LIKE I DESERVE FOR
JESUS TO DO THAT.

00:47:33.200 --> 00:47:35.566
IT'S LIKE, NO, NO
ONE DESERVES THAT.

00:47:35.666 --> 00:47:40.066
BUT HE STEPPED DOWN AND HE
TOOK THOSE NAILS IN OUR PLACE,

00:47:40.166 --> 00:47:43.366
AND HE TOOK THOSE THORNS
IN HIS HEAD IN OUR PLACE,

00:47:43.466 --> 00:47:45.833
HE TOOK THE MOCKERY
AND THE SHAME AND THE

00:47:45.933 --> 00:47:49.467
GUILT AND THE SMACKING AND
THE SPIT AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

00:47:49.567 --> 00:47:52.133
HE TOOK
THAT ALL FOR US.

00:47:52.233 --> 00:47:55.666
AND THEN TO LOOK AT THE
LOVE THAT'S BEHIND THAT,

00:47:55.766 --> 00:47:58.967
THIS INNOCENT,
PERFECT PERSON,

00:47:59.067 --> 00:48:00.933
HE DID THAT FOR ME.


00:48:01.033 --> 00:48:04.266
AND THEN, OKAY, NOW I'M
FEELING THE LOVE OF GOD.

00:48:04.366 --> 00:48:07.033
NOW I'M SENSING
THE LOVE OF GOD.

00:48:07.133 --> 00:48:09.733
AND JUST THOSE MOMENTS IN
THE SECRET PLACE THAT

00:48:09.833 --> 00:48:13.366
REALLY PROPEL ME FORWARD
OR MOVE ME FORWARD,

00:48:13.466 --> 00:48:16.333
IT'S REALLY THE GRACE OF
GOD EMPOWERING ME AND THEN

00:48:16.433 --> 00:48:19.933
PRODUCING THOSE GOOD
FRUITS THROUGH, LITERALLY,

00:48:20.033 --> 00:48:22.033
IT WORKS THE SAME WAY FOR
EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN.

00:48:22.133 --> 00:48:23.533
JESUS LIVING THROUGH US.


00:48:23.633 --> 00:48:24.833
REBECCA: YEAH, THAT'S
SUCH A GOOD POINT.

00:48:24.933 --> 00:48:27.300
AND I KNOW,
WHEN I THINK ABOUT,

00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:32.100
WHEN I THINK ABOUT JESUS
DYING FOR US IN OUR SIN

00:48:32.200 --> 00:48:34.400
AND TAKING THE PLACE, AND
YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE AND SAYS

00:48:34.500 --> 00:48:37.300
IN SCRIPTURE, NOT MANY
WOULD EVEN DIE FOR A GOOD MAN,

00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.800
BUT WE WERE SINNERS,
WE WERE IN REBELLION TO GOD,

00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:41.967
AND HE DIED FOR -
I MEAN, THAT KIND OF LOVE,

00:48:42.067 --> 00:48:45.500
IT'S HONESTLY HARD FOR ME
IN MY MIND TO COMPREHEND,

00:48:45.600 --> 00:48:47.533
BUT IT'S SO GOOD TO
MEDITATE ON THAT

00:48:47.633 --> 00:48:50.400
AND TO THINK ABOUT HOW HE TOOK
OUR PLACE AND THAT WE HAVE

00:48:50.500 --> 00:48:52.033
FREEDOM BECAUSE OF HIM.


00:48:52.133 --> 00:48:53.666
IT'S THE MOST
AMAZING THING.

00:48:53.766 --> 00:48:54.900
AND THERE IS NOTHING
DEEPER THAN THAT,

00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:56.266
LIKE YOU SAID.


00:48:56.366 --> 00:48:59.266
SO YOU START LEARNING
THE WORD OF GOD.

00:48:59.366 --> 00:49:00.967
DID YOU GO TO BIBLE SCHOOL
OR DID YOU JUST -

00:49:01.067 --> 00:49:02.266
WAS IT ON YOUR OWN?


00:49:02.366 --> 00:49:03.967
NICHOLAS: YEAH, I
DIDN'T GO TO BIBLE SCHOOL.

00:49:04.067 --> 00:49:06.833
I WAS IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY
CHURCH SERVICE THAT

00:49:06.933 --> 00:49:10.033
OUR CHURCH HAD, AND WE HAD A
LOT OF CHURCH SERVICE.

00:49:10.133 --> 00:49:11.400
WE STILL HAVE SUNDAY
MORNINGS, SUNDAY NIGHT,

00:49:11.500 --> 00:49:12.466
AND WEDNESDAY.


00:49:12.566 --> 00:49:13.933
BUT THERE WAS A
SEASON WHERE -

00:49:14.033 --> 00:49:15.233
REBECCA: HOW DID
YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO?

00:49:15.333 --> 00:49:16.366
NICHOLAS: PROBABLY -
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

00:49:16.466 --> 00:49:17.967
REBECCA: HOW DID YOU
KNOW HOW TO STUDY THE WORD?

00:49:18.067 --> 00:49:18.966
I MEAN, LIKE LEGITIMATELY?


00:49:19.066 --> 00:49:20.966
BECAUSE IT'S HARD.


00:49:21.066 --> 00:49:22.999
BECAUSE I WENT TO SCHOOL,
SO I'M CURIOUS

00:49:23.099 --> 00:49:23.766
TO HOW YOU DID IT.


00:49:23.866 --> 00:49:24.766
NICHOLAS: REALLY SLOWLY.


00:49:24.866 --> 00:49:26.200
[ LAUGHING ]


00:49:26.300 --> 00:49:28.500
NICHOLAS: I WOULD READ -
I WAS A SLOW READER, ANYWAYS.

00:49:28.600 --> 00:49:30.733
BUT LIKE EVERY OTHER WORD,
I'M LIKE LOOKING UP WHAT'S

00:49:30.833 --> 00:49:32.900
THIS WORD ACTUALLY MEAN.


00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:35.133
WHAT DOES
MANIFESTATION MEAN.

00:49:35.233 --> 00:49:38.733
WHAT DOES WHATEVER OTHER -
I WAS READING THE NKJV,

00:49:38.833 --> 00:49:40.867
SO THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE
MORE DIFFICULT THAN MAYBE

00:49:40.967 --> 00:49:43.099
THE NLT OR SOMETHING ELSE.


00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.100
BUT JUST STUDYING
OUT THE WORD,

00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:48.099
I TOOK A LOT OF NOTES,
AND JUST BREAKING DOWN.

00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.566
SOMEONE INTRODUCED ME
TO LIKE INTERLINEARS,

00:49:51.666 --> 00:49:53.367
LIKE CONCORDANCES
AND THINGS.

00:49:53.467 --> 00:49:55.599
SO I GOT THIS BIBLE APP,
IT'S CALLED

00:49:55.699 --> 00:49:57.233
THE BLUE LETTER BIBLE APP, I
USED IT FOR A LONG TIME.

00:49:57.333 --> 00:49:58.899
REBECCA: OH, I
LOVE BLUE LETTER BIBLE.

00:49:58.999 --> 00:50:00.333
NICHOLAS: AND NOW
I'VE SWITCHED OVER TO,

00:50:00.433 --> 00:50:03.366
THERE'S AN OLIVE TREE
BIBLE APP WHERE,

00:50:03.466 --> 00:50:04.566
ANYWAY, IT'S A GREAT BIBLE APP.


00:50:04.666 --> 00:50:07.067
YOU CAN READ IT, BUT
AS YOU'RE READING IT,

00:50:07.167 --> 00:50:08.400
YOU CAN CLICK ON
ANY OF THE WORDS,

00:50:08.500 --> 00:50:10.733
AND IT WILL JUST PULL UP
LIKE THE GREEK WORD OR HEBREW,

00:50:10.833 --> 00:50:11.699
IF YOU'RE IN
THE OLD TESTAMENT.

00:50:11.799 --> 00:50:12.766
REBECCA: OH,
THAT'S SO COOL.

00:50:12.866 --> 00:50:13.900
NICHOLAS: SO IT MAKES
IT A LOT QUICKER THAN

00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.267
READING AND THEN, OKAY,
NOW I'M GOING TO TYPE IN,

00:50:15.367 --> 00:50:16.933
AND ALL THAT.


00:50:17.033 --> 00:50:20.100
BUT THAT READING REALLY
SLOW AND LOOKING UP,

00:50:20.200 --> 00:50:23.266
I LEARNED SO MUCH BY
LOOKING UP ALL THOSE

00:50:23.366 --> 00:50:25.666
GREEK WORDS ON WHAT THEY
ACTUALLY MEAN,

00:50:25.766 --> 00:50:27.633
WHAT THAT WORD
ACTUALLY MEANS.

00:50:27.733 --> 00:50:30.067
THAT AND THEN, LIKE
I SAID, JUST GOING,

00:50:30.167 --> 00:50:32.333
WE WOULD HAVE WEEKEND
SERVICES LIKE OVER

00:50:32.433 --> 00:50:33.699
AND OVER AGAIN.


00:50:33.799 --> 00:50:35.367
SO SITTING UNDER
A LOT OF TEACHING,

00:50:35.467 --> 00:50:38.766
A LOT OF PREACHING, HAVING
PEOPLE THAT I COULD GO TO,

00:50:38.866 --> 00:50:41.366
PEOPLE THAT WOULD
SPEAK INTO MY LIFE,

00:50:41.466 --> 00:50:43.466
PEOPLE WHO COULD
DISCIPLE ME.

00:50:43.566 --> 00:50:45.167
YEAH.


00:50:45.267 --> 00:50:47.133
AND ULTIMATELY
THE HOLY SPIRIT,

00:50:47.233 --> 00:50:50.166
THE TEACHER WALKING
ALONGSIDE OF ME AND

00:50:50.266 --> 00:50:52.433
OPENING THE EYES OF
MY ENLIGHTENMENT,

00:50:52.533 --> 00:50:53.933
GIVING ME A REVELATION
OF THE WORD.

00:50:54.033 --> 00:50:55.233
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.


00:50:55.333 --> 00:50:57.700
AND THAT MAKES SENSE
WHEN I HEARD YOUR STORY,

00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.166
I WAS LIKE, AH, BECAUSE IT COMES
ACROSS IN YOUR PREACHING,

00:51:00.266 --> 00:51:01.667
LIKE YOU HAVE
A GOOD - EVEN IN THIS

00:51:01.767 --> 00:51:04.133
INTERVIEW, YOU HAVE A GOOD
UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORD.

00:51:04.233 --> 00:51:07.233
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T - IT HAS
TO BE IN YOU WHEN YOU'RE

00:51:07.333 --> 00:51:08.899
ON THOSE STREET
SITUATIONS.

00:51:08.999 --> 00:51:10.633
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE,
WHATEVER'S IN YOU IS

00:51:10.733 --> 00:51:12.266
WHAT'S GOING TO
COME OUT OF YOU.

00:51:12.366 --> 00:51:15.100
AND SO THERE IS THIS GRASP
AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD

00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:16.733
AND BEING ABLE TO
SPEAK THE GOSPEL IN A

00:51:16.833 --> 00:51:19.966
REALLY LIKE CONCISE
WAY, BUT WITH DEPTH.

00:51:20.066 --> 00:51:22.333
SO THAT MAKES SENSE THAT
YOU WERE IN THE WORD.

00:51:22.433 --> 00:51:24.333
YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY
STILL IN THE WORD.

00:51:24.433 --> 00:51:27.000
SO YOU START
UPLOADING YOUR STUFF,

00:51:27.100 --> 00:51:30.999
AND AT SOME POINT,
YOU HIT TRACTION.

00:51:31.099 --> 00:51:34.166
WHAT WAS THAT LIKE, HOW
DID YOU HANDLE THAT FROM A

00:51:34.266 --> 00:51:38.900
MENTAL STANDPOINT, BECAUSE
I FEEL LIKE TO GO FROM

00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.667
HAVING JUST LIKE YOUR
SMALL CIRCLE OF INFLUENCE,

00:51:43.767 --> 00:51:46.133
LIKE A NORMAL PERSON HAS,
NOW YOU HAVE THIS MASSIVE

00:51:46.233 --> 00:51:48.000
INFLUENCE, THAT'S A LOT.


00:51:48.100 --> 00:51:49.866
SO HOW DO YOU - WHAT
WAS IT LIKE GETTING IT,

00:51:49.966 --> 00:51:53.399
AND HOW DO YOU KEEP LIKE YOUR
MIND AND YOUR HEART

00:51:53.499 --> 00:51:54.666
IN THE RIGHT PLACE
WITH IT

00:51:54.766 --> 00:51:56.300
AND STEWARD THAT INFLUENCE?


00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:57.466
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


00:51:57.566 --> 00:52:00.233
THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN
TEMPTATIONS ALONG THE WAY.

00:52:00.333 --> 00:52:03.233
I SHARED, I DON'T KNOW IF
WE DID IT ON THE PODCAST HERE,

00:52:03.333 --> 00:52:05.333
BUT I SHARED MY
HEART BEHIND GETTING INTO

00:52:05.433 --> 00:52:06.966
SOCIAL MEDIA,
STARTING TEACHING,

00:52:07.066 --> 00:52:09.766
STARTING EVEN BEING OUT
WITNESSING TO SOMEONE,

00:52:09.866 --> 00:52:12.133
WHETHER IT WAS ONE-ON-ONE
OR WHETHER IT WAS OPEN AIR.

00:52:12.233 --> 00:52:14.700
MY HEART BEHIND THAT WAS
REALLY TO EQUIP JUST THE

00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.767
BODY OF CHRIST, EVEN
MY LOCAL CHURCH,

00:52:16.867 --> 00:52:18.700
TO GET OUT THERE
AND DO IT, AS WELL.

00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.066
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY
FOR EVERY CHRISTIAN.

00:52:21.166 --> 00:52:22.666
SO THE LORD WAS GIVING
ME THAT REVELATION,

00:52:22.766 --> 00:52:25.299
AND THAT'S WHY I STARTED
ALL THE CONTENT.

00:52:25.399 --> 00:52:27.599
OUR FIRST VIDEO
THAT TOOK OFF,

00:52:27.699 --> 00:52:30.099
WE ACTUALLY JUST
RELEASED A SHORT ON IT,

00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.066
I THINK A COUPLE
OF DAYS AGO,

00:52:32.166 --> 00:52:34.767
BUT WE WERE AT A PRIDE
EVENT JUST IN OUR CITY.

00:52:34.867 --> 00:52:36.300
AND, AGAIN, I'M NOT
THINKING LIKE, HEY,

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:37.867
LET'S GET BIG
ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

00:52:37.967 --> 00:52:40.133
I'M JUST THINKING, HEY,
THEY'RE HAVING A PRIDE EVENT

00:52:40.233 --> 00:52:41.633
LIKE IN OUR CITY.


00:52:41.733 --> 00:52:44.666
THEY'RE PUTTING UP A HUGE
STAGE WITH DRAG QUEENS,

00:52:44.766 --> 00:52:46.533
BLARING ON THE SPEAKERS,
AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO

00:52:46.633 --> 00:52:49.533
MARCH THROUGH OUR CITY IN
FRONT OF OUR TOWN HALL.

00:52:49.633 --> 00:52:52.766
AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO
MAKE THIS HUGE STATEMENT

00:52:52.866 --> 00:52:57.033
FOR LGBTQ, I'M GOING TO
GO PREACH THE GOSPEL.

00:52:57.133 --> 00:52:59.733
THAT, ALONG WITH, HEY,
HERE'S ALL THESE PEOPLE

00:52:59.833 --> 00:53:03.700
GATHERED TOGETHER IN ONE
PLACE WHO DON'T KNOW GOD,

00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.533
THEY'RE FAR AWAY FROM
HIM IN THEIR DECEIT,

00:53:06.633 --> 00:53:08.066
SO IT'S LIKE PERFECT TIME.


00:53:08.166 --> 00:53:09.699
REBECCA: PERFECT PLACE
TO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY.

00:53:09.799 --> 00:53:10.767
NICHOLAS: LIKE WE COULD
TRY TO GATHER ALL THOSE

00:53:10.867 --> 00:53:12.633
PEOPLE TOGETHER, PROBABLY
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

00:53:12.733 --> 00:53:13.666
REBECCA: NO.


00:53:13.766 --> 00:53:14.733
NICHOLAS: WE'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE A CHURCH

00:53:14.833 --> 00:53:15.833
EVENT WHERE THEY FEEL
WELCOME OR ANYTHING LIKE

00:53:15.933 --> 00:53:17.000
THAT, SO IT'S LIKE, THERE
THEY ARE ALL GATHERED

00:53:17.100 --> 00:53:19.133
TOGETHER, LET'S USE
THIS OPPORTUNITY.

00:53:19.233 --> 00:53:21.166
SO WENT DOWN THERE AND
PREACHED THE GOSPEL.

00:53:21.266 --> 00:53:22.166
AND THERE WERE THESE TWO
GIRLS THAT WERE

00:53:22.266 --> 00:53:24.667
REALLY RECEPTIVE.


00:53:24.767 --> 00:53:25.999
AND THEY WERE
TALKING TO US,

00:53:26.099 --> 00:53:27.233
THEY REALLY
OPENED UP TO US.

00:53:27.333 --> 00:53:29.266
AND THEN I ASKED THEM,
HEY, CAN I PRAY FOR YOU?

00:53:29.366 --> 00:53:31.100
AND I HAD JUST BEGUN,
THEY SAID, YES,

00:53:31.200 --> 00:53:32.267
YOU CAN PRAY FOR ME.


00:53:32.367 --> 00:53:33.833
AND I HAD JUST
BEGUN TELLING THEM,

00:53:33.933 --> 00:53:35.733
JESUS CAN SET YOU FREE.


00:53:35.833 --> 00:53:39.233
AND WHEN I SAID THAT, THIS
GIRL LIKE STARTS HAVING

00:53:39.333 --> 00:53:43.400
TROUBLE BREATHING, BENDS
OVER, TURNS AROUND,

00:53:43.500 --> 00:53:45.700
AND WHAT IT WAS, A
DEMON WAS MANIFESTING,

00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:48.567
LITERALLY WAS CHOKING HER,
TRYING TO GET HER AWAY

00:53:48.667 --> 00:53:50.599
FROM US, LIKE GET
AWAY FROM THESE GUYS,

00:53:50.699 --> 00:53:52.333
I DON'T WANT
YOU TO BE HERE.

00:53:52.433 --> 00:53:53.400
REBECCA: HE DIDN'T
WANT TO LOSE HIS HOME.

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:55.166
NICHOLAS: AMEN, YEAH.


00:53:55.266 --> 00:53:58.200
SO THEY WALKED OFF,
WENT TO THE BATHROOM,

00:53:58.300 --> 00:53:59.633
AND I REALIZED
EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS,

00:53:59.733 --> 00:54:01.433
OR THE HOLY SPIRIT
REVEALED WHAT IT WAS,

00:54:01.533 --> 00:54:03.133
THAT'S
ACTUALLY A DEMON.

00:54:03.233 --> 00:54:06.066
SO WE WENT OVER, JUST
HUNG OUT AND WAITED,

00:54:06.166 --> 00:54:09.066
AND THEY FINALLY CAME OUT,
AND THEN SHE WAS LIKE,

00:54:09.166 --> 00:54:12.633
YEAH, I THINK MY SHIRT WAS
TOO TIGHT OR SOMETHING.

00:54:12.733 --> 00:54:13.799
REBECCA: SHE DOESN'T
KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

00:54:13.899 --> 00:54:15.200
NICHOLAS: YEAH,
YEAH, SHE HAD NO IDEA.

00:54:15.300 --> 00:54:16.700
SO WE WERE ABLE TO
CONTINUE TO MINISTER TO

00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:18.733
THEM AND PRAY FOR THEM.


00:54:18.833 --> 00:54:21.867
BUT THAT VIDEO PROBABLY
FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AFTER

00:54:21.967 --> 00:54:24.433
WE POSTED IT,
JUST TOOK TRACTION,

00:54:24.533 --> 00:54:26.967
AND LIKE OVERNIGHT, JUST
STARTED GETTING

00:54:27.067 --> 00:54:28.200
THOUSANDS OF VIEWS.


00:54:28.300 --> 00:54:30.700
GOT UP TO LIKE
600,000 OR SOMETHING.

00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:33.200
SO THAT WAS THE FIRST
VIDEO THAT TOOK OFF.

00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:36.266
THAT GAVE US AROUND
10,000 SUBSCRIBERS.

00:54:36.366 --> 00:54:39.900
AND THEN JUST CONTINUED
TO LABOR AND DO THINGS.

00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:42.600
I THINK A SECOND VIDEO
TOOK OFF THAT GOT US UP TO

00:54:42.700 --> 00:54:47.367
MAYBE 22,000 SUBSCRIBERS,
REALLY OUT OF JUST TWO VIDEOS,

00:54:47.467 --> 00:54:49.466
AND JUST CONTINUE
TO LABOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

00:54:49.566 --> 00:54:52.833
AND AT THE TIME, I WAS
FULL-TIME WORKING AT A CHURCH

00:54:52.933 --> 00:54:55.000
TRYING TO GO OUT
AND PREACH THE GOSPEL.

00:54:55.100 --> 00:54:56.833
I WAS DOING THE EDITING, I
WAS DOING THE

00:54:56.933 --> 00:54:57.500
SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGEMENT.


00:54:57.600 --> 00:54:58.633
REBECCA: THAT'S A LOT.


00:54:58.733 --> 00:55:00.267
I CAN'T EVEN - I'VE GOT
A WHOLE TEAM OVER HERE.

00:55:00.367 --> 00:55:02.300
THAT'S A LOT.


00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:03.367
NICHOLAS: IT WAS A LOT.


00:55:03.467 --> 00:55:05.633
AND I WAS MARRIED,
WE HAD OUR FIRST KID.

00:55:05.733 --> 00:55:08.066
SO I WAS TRYING
TO DO EVERYTHING.

00:55:08.166 --> 00:55:09.733
I JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME.


00:55:09.833 --> 00:55:12.100
SO I WOULD GET A VIDEO
OUT MAYBE ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS,

00:55:12.200 --> 00:55:15.266
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.


00:55:15.366 --> 00:55:17.900
AND THEN THE LORD JUST
STARTED OPENING UP DOORS

00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:20.066
TO BRING PEOPLE ON TO HELP
AND THINGS LIKE THAT,

00:55:20.166 --> 00:55:22.233
AND IT STARTED
TO TAKE OFF,

00:55:22.333 --> 00:55:23.700
ABLE TO EDIT MORE VIDEOS,
GET MORE VIDEOS

00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:25.666
OUT THERE TO PEOPLE.


00:55:25.766 --> 00:55:27.133
AND AS IT'S GROWING,
THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN

00:55:27.233 --> 00:55:29.299
TEMPTATIONS OF PRIDE
TO GET YOU TO

00:55:29.399 --> 00:55:31.066
FOCUS ON YOURSELF.


00:55:31.166 --> 00:55:37.599
BUT VERSES HONESTLY
LIKE, WHAT IS IT?

00:55:37.699 --> 00:55:38.966
GOD WON'T ALLOW YOU TO BE
TEMPTED BEYOND

00:55:39.066 --> 00:55:41.299
WHAT YOU CAN BEAR,
BUT WITH EVERY TEMPTATION,

00:55:41.399 --> 00:55:42.800
HE PREPARES THE
WAY OF ESCAPE.

00:55:42.900 --> 00:55:44.433
RIGHT BEFORE THAT IT
SAYS, GOD IS FAITHFUL.

00:55:44.533 --> 00:55:46.266
NO TEMPTATION HAS
OVERTAKEN YOU EXCEPT WHICH

00:55:46.366 --> 00:55:49.033
IS COMMON IN MAN,
BUT GOD IS FAITHFUL.

00:55:49.133 --> 00:55:50.800
AND THEN IT GOES
ON WITH THAT VERSE.

00:55:50.900 --> 00:55:52.667
SO BECAUSE OF GOD'S
FAITHFULNESS AND NOT

00:55:52.767 --> 00:55:55.700
ALLOWING TEMPTATIONS
THAT I CAN'T HANDLE,

00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:58.899
THAT I CAN'T BEAR BASED ON
HIS GRACE AND EVEN FAITH

00:55:58.999 --> 00:56:02.333
IN HIS GRACE HAS REALLY
BEEN HELPFUL IN,

00:56:02.433 --> 00:56:04.100
WHEN THOSE
TEMPTATIONS COME,

00:56:04.200 --> 00:56:06.167
IT'S LIKE I'M NOT
GOING TO FEAR THIS,

00:56:06.267 --> 00:56:08.766
I'M NOT GOING
TO GET ANXIOUS.

00:56:08.866 --> 00:56:10.900
OH, NO, WHAT IF THE PRIDE
GETS TO MY HEAD, OH, NO,

00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:12.067
WHAT IF I FALL?


00:56:12.167 --> 00:56:13.333
OH, NO, WHAT IF I DO THIS?


00:56:13.433 --> 00:56:15.266
IT'S LIKE, NO, NO,
HOLD UP A SECOND.

00:56:15.366 --> 00:56:17.466
GOD, YOUR GRACE IS
SUFFICIENT FOR ME.

00:56:17.566 --> 00:56:19.533
IN MY WEAKNESS, YOUR
POWER IS MADE PERFECT.

00:56:19.633 --> 00:56:21.267
YOUR STRENGTH
IS MADE PERFECT.

00:56:21.367 --> 00:56:23.533
AND IT'S JUST
TRUSTING IN HIM.

00:56:23.633 --> 00:56:26.400
AND THERE ARE DEFINITELY
TIMES WHERE IT'S LIKE,

00:56:26.500 --> 00:56:28.033
OKAY, I'VE GOT TO GO GET
IN THE SECRET PLACE.

00:56:28.100 --> 00:56:30.600
BECAUSE THE ENEMY IS
TRYING TO BOMBARD OR HE IS

00:56:30.700 --> 00:56:34.500
TRYING TO ATTACK WITH SOME
OF THOSE TEMPTATIONS,

00:56:34.600 --> 00:56:35.933
AND IT'S LIKE, I'VE
GOT TO GET AWAY,

00:56:36.033 --> 00:56:37.767
I'VE GOT TO GO
BE WITH GOD.

00:56:37.867 --> 00:56:40.566
AND THEN IN DOING THAT,
GOD BRINGS - HE PURIFIES

00:56:40.666 --> 00:56:42.633
OUR HEARTS, AND IF THERE
IS ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED

00:56:42.733 --> 00:56:45.067
TO DEAL WITH, ANY MOTIVES
THAT HAVE SHIFTED -

00:56:45.167 --> 00:56:47.533
BECAUSE MOTIVES AND
INTENTIONS CAN - THE DEVIL

00:56:47.633 --> 00:56:50.833
CAN TRY TO JUST TWEAK
THOSE JUST A LITTLE BIT,

00:56:50.933 --> 00:56:53.066
AND WE CAN GET THEN
FROM THAT LITTLE TWEAK,

00:56:53.166 --> 00:56:55.967
WE GET OFF WAY OVER HERE
WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN

00:56:56.067 --> 00:56:58.600
GOING THIS WAY
DOWN THE ROAD.

00:56:58.700 --> 00:57:01.300
BUT REALLY GETTING WITH
THE LORD, BEING WITH HIM,

00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:05.133
HE POINTS THOSE THINGS OUT
IN A LOVING WAY TO HELP US

00:57:05.233 --> 00:57:07.966
CORRECT THOSE THINGS AND
HELP US SHIFT BACK AND

00:57:08.066 --> 00:57:11.099
KEEP OUR EYES ON HIM,
KEEP THE FOCUS ON HIM.

00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.900
AND ULTIMATELY NOT TO GET
SELFISH AND GET IN THE WAY

00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.533
OF WHAT GOD WANTS TO DO.


00:57:15.633 --> 00:57:17.200
REBECCA: SO TRUE.


00:57:17.300 --> 00:57:19.100
I FEEL LIKE, YES, I
FEEL LIKE IN MINISTRY,

00:57:19.200 --> 00:57:21.200
IT'S LIKE IT'S
NOT ABOUT US,

00:57:21.300 --> 00:57:22.067
SO DON'T MAKE IT ABOUT US.


00:57:22.167 --> 00:57:24.933
IT'S ABOUT HIM.


00:57:25.033 --> 00:57:26.266
BUT THERE'S JUST SUCH A
PRESSURE BECAUSE WE LIVE

00:57:26.366 --> 00:57:30.266
IN SUCH A SOCIAL
MEDIA-CHARGED AGE,

00:57:30.366 --> 00:57:31.800
AND THERE ARE SO MANY
PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO

00:57:31.900 --> 00:57:34.733
GET BIG FOLLOWINGS AND
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET NUMBERS.

00:57:34.833 --> 00:57:36.733
AND YOU CAN START TO FEEL
THAT PRESSURE LIKE YOU

00:57:36.833 --> 00:57:39.033
HAVE TO PERFORM OR YOU
HAVE TO KEEP UP YOUR NUMBERS.

00:57:39.133 --> 00:57:41.533
HOW DO YOU NOT LET THAT
PRESSURE GET TO YOU?

00:57:41.633 --> 00:57:42.766
NICHOLAS: THE
SECRET PLACE.

00:57:42.866 --> 00:57:43.533
[ LAUGHING ]


00:57:43.633 --> 00:57:44.700
IT REALLY IS.


00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.533
JUST GETTING WITH HIM.


00:57:46.633 --> 00:57:49.733
AND WHEN YOU FIX
YOUR EYES ON HIM,

00:57:49.833 --> 00:57:51.433
HE JUST BRINGS A PURITY.


00:57:51.533 --> 00:57:53.766
IT'S JUST WHO HE IS.


00:57:53.866 --> 00:57:57.300
THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF GOD
AS AN ALL-CONSUMING FIRE.

00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:59.733
SO BEING WITH HIM,
BEING WITH THAT FIRE,

00:57:59.833 --> 00:58:03.767
HE REALLY REFINES AND
REMOVES THOSE THINGS.

00:58:03.867 --> 00:58:07.533
SO THEN - AND THERE ARE
TIMES WHERE GOD WILL HAVE ME

00:58:07.633 --> 00:58:09.000
STOP DOING
SOMETHING FOR A WHILE.

00:58:09.100 --> 00:58:10.933
IF I'M CHECKING THE
NUMBERS LIKE, OH,

00:58:11.033 --> 00:58:12.766
I WANT TO KNOW HOW
DID THIS VIDEO DO?

00:58:12.866 --> 00:58:15.767
THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IT'S
LIKE IF I FEEL MYSELF

00:58:15.867 --> 00:58:19.200
DRIFTING, MY MOTIVES
DRIFTING, IT'S LIKE, OKAY,

00:58:19.300 --> 00:58:22.700
I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THAT
AWAY FOR A WHILE UNTIL GOD

00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:24.666
REALLY BUILDS THAT
SELF-CONTROL BACK UP AND

00:58:24.766 --> 00:58:26.599
THE MOTIVES ARE PURE
AND THIS AND THAT.

00:58:26.699 --> 00:58:28.833
AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT
WITHOUT IT

00:58:28.933 --> 00:58:29.833
DETERRING YOUR HEART.


00:58:29.933 --> 00:58:30.699
REBECCA: WITHOUT IT
BOTHERING YOU, YEAH.

00:58:30.799 --> 00:58:32.100
NICHOLAS: OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

00:58:32.200 --> 00:58:33.733
SO THERE ARE DEFINITELY
TIMES WHERE I HAVE TO GET

00:58:33.833 --> 00:58:37.767
IN SOME SELF-CONTROL AND
SAY NO TO THIS OR NO TO THAT.

00:58:37.867 --> 00:58:40.000
AND REALLY JUST KEEP
MY FOCUS ON HIM.

00:58:40.100 --> 00:58:41.100
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:42.600
HE REMINDED ME, BECAUSE
WITH THIS PODCAST TOO,

00:58:42.700 --> 00:58:45.766
THERE WILL BE TIMES WHERE
I BECOME TOO FOCUSED ON NUMBERS.

00:58:45.866 --> 00:58:46.833
AND JUST
THE OTHER DAY,

00:58:46.933 --> 00:58:49.233
HE LOVINGLY WAS LIKE,
DON'T - YOU'RE NOT DOING

00:58:49.333 --> 00:58:50.433
THIS FOR NUMBERS.


00:58:50.533 --> 00:58:51.900
THIS ISN'T ABOUT NUMBERS.


00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.333
NUMBERS ARE A BYPRODUCT
OF HE CAN DO SOMETHING, RIGHT.

00:58:55.433 --> 00:58:57.900
HE CAN GROW SOMETHING, HE
CAN INCREASE IN INFLUENCE.

00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.667
BUT WE DON'T HAVE
TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

00:58:59.767 --> 00:59:00.733
THAT'S IN HIS HANDS.


00:59:00.833 --> 00:59:02.167
WE JUST HAVE
TO BE FAITHFUL,

00:59:02.267 --> 00:59:03.633
STAY IN THAT SECRET PLACE.


00:59:03.733 --> 00:59:04.666
AND YOU'RE RIGHT.


00:59:04.766 --> 00:59:06.533
WHEN HE COMES
INTO THE PICTURE,

00:59:06.633 --> 00:59:08.700
WHEN WE GET INTO ALIGNMENT
WITH HIS HEART IN THE

00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:10.800
SECRET PLACE, THERE IS
A PURITY THAT COMES AND

00:59:10.900 --> 00:59:13.233
REALLY WHERE YOU CAN
BREATHE AND GO, OKAY,

00:59:13.333 --> 00:59:15.199
I DON'T HAVE TO - THE
PRESSURE THAT THE WORLD

00:59:15.299 --> 00:59:17.867
PUTS ON US, I DON'T
HAVE TO PUT ON ME.

00:59:17.967 --> 00:59:19.633
GOD TAKES THOSE
BURDENS OFF OF ME,

00:59:19.733 --> 00:59:21.233
AND I'M NOT DOING
THIS FOR PEOPLE,

00:59:21.333 --> 00:59:22.533
I'M NOT DOING
THIS FOR NUMBERS,

00:59:22.633 --> 00:59:23.733
I'M DOING THIS FOR HIM.


00:59:23.833 --> 00:59:24.600
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.


00:59:24.700 --> 00:59:26.300
YOU HAVE TO STAY
UP ON TOP OF IT.

00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:28.233
AND YOU FIND YOURSELF
SLIPPING INTO IT,

00:59:28.333 --> 00:59:30.333
YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY,
GOT TO COURSE-CORRECT.

00:59:30.433 --> 00:59:31.633
BECAUSE WE'RE ALL HUMAN.


00:59:31.733 --> 00:59:33.233
WE ALL, LIKE YOU SAID,
FACE TEMPTATIONS.

00:59:33.333 --> 00:59:35.966
BUT I LIKE THAT YOU FRAMED
IT IN A REALLY HEALTHY WAY

00:59:36.066 --> 00:59:39.799
WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, THERE'S
NOTHING THAT HIS GRACE

00:59:39.899 --> 00:59:40.767
ISN'T SUFFICIENT.


00:59:40.867 --> 00:59:43.233
SO WE DON'T HAVE
TO LIVE IN FEAR.

00:59:43.333 --> 00:59:47.833
WE CAN BE AT PEACE KNOWING
THAT WHATEVER HE CALLS US TO,

00:59:47.933 --> 00:59:49.833
HE HAS GIVEN US THE
GRACE FOR AND THAT HE IS

00:59:49.933 --> 00:59:52.700
OUR SOURCE, AND WE CAN
JUST FIND REST IN HIM IN

00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:56.533
A WORLD THAT IS STRIVING AND
RUNNING RUTHLESSLY

00:59:56.633 --> 00:59:59.833
TRYING TO PROVE ITSELF, WE ARE
SAFE AND SECURE IN HIM.

00:59:59.933 --> 01:00:00.933
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


01:00:01.033 --> 01:00:03.866
AND IF HE IS GOING TO
ENTRUST US WITH INFLUENCE

01:00:03.966 --> 01:00:06.699
AND REACHING THE NUMBERS
AND THE MILLIONS,

01:00:06.799 --> 01:00:09.833
ALL THESE PEOPLE, GOD
CARES ABOUT US AND HE

01:00:09.933 --> 01:00:12.166
LOVES US, AND HE'S NOT
GOING TO MOVE US INTO A

01:00:12.266 --> 01:00:13.833
POSITION THAT'S GOING TO
BRING DESTRUCTION

01:00:13.933 --> 01:00:15.499
INTO OUR LIVES.


01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:19.100
LIKE HIS GRACE IS THERE
AND IT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.

01:00:19.200 --> 01:00:23.300
AND THE PLACE THAT HE'S PUT US
IN FOR HIS GLORY'S SAKE,

01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:24.533
FOR US TO REMAIN
HUMBLE AND GIVE HIM

01:00:24.633 --> 01:00:29.533
ALL THE GLORY, YEAH, HE CARES
ABOUT US AND HE LOVES US,

01:00:29.633 --> 01:00:34.133
AND HE PUT US THERE
BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT I'M

01:00:34.233 --> 01:00:36.999
GOING TO KEEP YOU HUMBLE,
I'M GOING TO KEEP YOU THIS WAY,

01:00:37.099 --> 01:00:39.067
AND THEN I'M GOING
TO DO IT ALL FOR ME;

01:00:39.167 --> 01:00:42.099
DRAWING PEOPLE TO HIM,
GIVING GLORY TO HIS NAME,

01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.333
GLORIFYING JESUS, AND
HIS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT.

01:00:45.433 --> 01:00:46.433
REBECCA: IT IS.


01:00:46.533 --> 01:00:48.366
AND I THINK, WHAT I
PERSONALLY BELIEVE IS THAT

01:00:48.466 --> 01:00:52.100
I THINK HE CARES MORE
ABOUT US THAN SOME KIND OF

01:00:52.200 --> 01:00:55.733
MINISTRY, MEANING THAT
LIKE IF SOMETHING IS GOING

01:00:55.833 --> 01:00:57.966
TO TURN OUR HEARTS, HE
WILL TAKE IT BECAUSE HE

01:00:58.066 --> 01:01:00.833
WANTS US TO BE
RIGHT WITH HIM.

01:01:00.933 --> 01:01:03.266
HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT US
OUT DOING THINGS FOR HIM

01:01:03.366 --> 01:01:06.033
MORE THAN OUR HEARTS
BEING ALIGNED FOR HIM,

01:01:06.133 --> 01:01:07.667
BECAUSE HE'S A FATHER,
WE'RE HIS CHILDREN.

01:01:07.767 --> 01:01:09.500
THAT'S JUST MY
PERSONAL BELIEF.

01:01:09.600 --> 01:01:11.399
I THINK I'VE SEEN THAT IN
MY LIFE WHERE IT'S LIKE

01:01:11.499 --> 01:01:14.567
I'M MORE IMPORTANT THAN
THINGS THAT I CAN DO.

01:01:14.667 --> 01:01:15.700
NICHOLAS: YEAH.


01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.700
AND I'M SUPER GRATEFUL
WHEN HE DOES MAYBE MOVE

01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:20.767
SOMETHING BACK A LITTLE
BIT OR HAVE US

01:01:20.867 --> 01:01:21.566
TAKE A SHORT BREAK.


01:01:21.666 --> 01:01:22.833
REBECCA: CLOSE A DOOR.


01:01:22.933 --> 01:01:23.933
[ LAUGHING ]


01:01:24.033 --> 01:01:25.033
NICHOLAS: I'M GRATEFUL
WHEN HE DOES THAT BECAUSE

01:01:25.133 --> 01:01:28.567
THERE ARE PEOPLE, THE
BIBLE SAYS THE GIFTINGS

01:01:28.667 --> 01:01:31.399
AND THE CALLINGS OF
GOD ARE IRREVOCABLE.

01:01:31.499 --> 01:01:33.433
SO SOME PEOPLE GET OUT
THERE IN THE GIFTING AND

01:01:33.533 --> 01:01:37.400
THE CALLING OF GOD, AND
HE'S STILL MOVING MIGHTILY

01:01:37.500 --> 01:01:39.600
AND HE'S STILL
TOUCHING PEOPLE,

01:01:39.700 --> 01:01:41.933
AND THERE'S STILL A
GREAT SERMON MAYBE THAT'S

01:01:42.033 --> 01:01:44.533
PREACHED OR A GREAT
MESSAGE THAT GOES OUT.

01:01:44.633 --> 01:01:47.300
AND GOD'S DOING THAT
BECAUSE HE LOVES THE PEOPLE

01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:48.333
WHO ARE
RECEIVING, RIGHT.

01:01:48.433 --> 01:01:49.633
HE'S IMPACTING THEM.


01:01:49.733 --> 01:01:52.200
BUT THIS PERSON THAT
HE'S MOVING THROUGH,

01:01:52.300 --> 01:01:53.833
MAYBE THEIR HEART
DID GET OFF-TRACK.

01:01:53.933 --> 01:01:55.733
MAYBE THEY DID GET IN
SOME KIND OF WILLFUL SIN.

01:01:55.833 --> 01:01:58.233
MAYBE THEY DID DO
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

01:01:58.333 --> 01:02:01.599
MAYBE PRIDE GOT TO THEIR
HEAD AND THEY GOT INTO

01:02:01.699 --> 01:02:05.699
WHATEVER, EMBEZZLING MONEY
OR ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE

01:02:05.799 --> 01:02:08.766
COULD GET INTO; ADULTERY,
SEXUAL IMMORALITY.

01:02:08.866 --> 01:02:10.999
THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS.


01:02:11.099 --> 01:02:14.267
I NEVER WANT TO BE IN THAT
POSITION FOR IT TO BECOME

01:02:14.367 --> 01:02:16.499
ABOUT THE MINISTERING,
ABOUT THE NUMBERS,

01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:20.033
AND ABOUT THE MONEY, AND
ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE,

01:02:20.133 --> 01:02:21.733
AND GOD STILL USES ME.


01:02:21.833 --> 01:02:24.433
THAT'S A DANGEROUS, SCARY
PLACE TO BE IN THE SENSE

01:02:24.533 --> 01:02:26.567
OF THE FEAR OF GOD.


01:02:26.667 --> 01:02:28.133
I DON'T WANT TO
BE HIS ENEMY.

01:02:28.233 --> 01:02:29.300
I DON'T WANT TO
JUST BE USED.

01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.099
BECAUSE THERE IS THAT
VERSE IN MATTHEW THAT SAYS

01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:33.633
THEY'LL COME TO
ME AND SAY, LORD,

01:02:33.733 --> 01:02:35.499
DID WE NOT CAST OUT
DEMONS IN YOUR NAME?

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DID WE NOT HEAL THE
SICK IN YOUR NAME?

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DID WE NOT DO THESE
THINGS IN YOUR NAME?

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AND HE SAID, DEPART FROM
ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU,

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YOU WHO PRACTICE
LAWLESSNESS.

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SO I NEVER WANT TO BE IN
THAT PLACE FOR FEAR OF THE

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LORD PURPOSE, BUT I ALSO
WANT TO DO IT IN LOVING HIM

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AND BEING WITH HIM AND BEING
IN RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM

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AND HAVING
PURITY OF HEART.

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I DON'T WANT TO EVER GET
IN THIS PLACE OF

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NOT DOING IT WITH HIM.


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REBECCA: EXACTLY.


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NICHOLAS: AND
HIM JUST USING ME.

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REBECCA: NO.


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AND I THINK YOU HELPED
EXPLAIN SOMETHING THAT

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I THINK CAN CONFUSE
PEOPLE, WHERE IT'S LIKE,

01:03:05.933 --> 01:03:07.700
WHY IS THIS PERSON DOING
THIS BUT THERE'S LIKE AN

01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:08.933
ANOINTING AND STUFF?


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BECAUSE GOD CAN MOVE
THROUGH A BROKEN VESSEL

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AND TOUCH PEOPLE WHO
NEED HIS PRESENCE.

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SO I THINK YOU
HELPED EXPLAIN THAT.

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AND I'M ON THE
SAME BOAT WITH YOU.

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AND FOR ME PERSONALLY
I NEVER WANT TO LOVE

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MINISTRY MORE THAN GOD,
BUT IN MY OWN PERSONAL

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EXPERIENCE, MINISTRY HAS
NEVER BEEN GREATER THAN GOD.

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HE'S JUST SO MUCH BETTER.


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AND IF I DON'T HAVE HIM,
I CAN'T EVEN DO MINISTRY.

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I WOULD JUST GET BURNED
OUT OR GET CYNICAL

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OR GET BITTER.


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BECAUSE LIFE IS HARD AND
PEOPLE ARE HURTING

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AND BROKEN AND THEY
CAN BE HURTFUL.

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AND SO THE ONLY WAY THAT
NOT ONLY CAN MY HEART STAY PURE,

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BUT THE ONLY WAY
THAT I CAN HAVE THE FUEL

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TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE
AND DO MINISTRY

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IS THROUGH MY
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

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BUT I'M WITH YOU.


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I NEVER WANT THIS
TO BE ABOVE HIM.

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I WANT - HE IS FIRST, AND
THEN EVERYTHING ELSE

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FALLS INTO PLACE AFTER HIM.


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NICHOLAS: AMEN.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE

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AND FOR JUST SHARING YOUR STORY
AND JUST SHARING YOUR HEART.

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IT'S JUST BEEN SO GREAT
HEARING FROM YOU,

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AND I'LL BE EXCITED TO
SEE SOME MORE

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EVANGELISM VIDEOS
IN THE FUTURE.

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NICHOLAS: AMEN.


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I'M EXCITED TO SEE
WHAT GOD HAS PLANNED.

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AND THANKS SO MUCH
FOR HAVING ME ON.

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REBECCA: YEAH,
IT WAS AN HONOR.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.


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NICHOLAS: AMEN.