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REBECCA LAMB WEISS:
I'M HERE WITH DALE AGAIN.

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I'M SO HAPPY
THAT YOU'RE BACK.

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DALE MAST: IT'S GREAT
TO BE BACK WITH YOU.

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REBECCA: AND I WANT YOU TO JUST
SHARE WHATEVER IS ON YOUR HEART,

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BECAUSE YOU JUST HAVE
SO MUCH WISDOM INSIDE YOU,

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AND I WANT YOU
TO LEAD IN THE DIRECTION.

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DALE: OKAY.


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I WOULD LIKE TO
TALK ABOUT HONOR

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AND HOW HONOR
OPENS UP OUR FUTURE.

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AND A LOT OF PEOPLE,
IT'S A MYSTERY.

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BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, I DON'T
UNDERSTAND HOW HONOR WORKS.

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I WANT TO GIVE YOU A
SCRIPTURE OUT OF MARK 6.

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IT SAYS -- IT
SAID, JESUS SAID,

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A PROPHET IS NOT WITHOUT HONOR
EXCEPT IN HIS OWN HOMETOWN.

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AND IT THERE, HE SAID HE
COULD DO NO MIRACLES.

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NOW, I WANT YOU TO THINK
ABOUT HEAVEN'S BEST.

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JESUS.


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JESUS WITH NO HONOR IS
EQUAL TO NO MIRACLES.

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REBECCA: HM, I NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

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DALE: NO HONOR ACTUALLY STOPPED
JESUS FROM PERFORMING MIRACLES.

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SO IF WE UNDERSTAND THIS
REALM OF THE SPIRIT

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THAT AFFECTED JESUS,


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WHAT THE
ENEMY WANTS TO DO

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IS REMOVE HONOR FROM OUR LIFE
SO THAT MIRACLES CANNOT HAPPEN

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THROUGH OUR LIFE.


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SO IF LACK OF HONOR
COULD STOP JESUS,

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WHAT WOULD IT DO TO US?


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THE SAME.


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SO IN IT, WHAT WE SEE IN
HEAVEN, WHEN LUCIFER FELL,

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HE CHOSE NOT TO GIVE
HONOR TO FATHER GOD.

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SO WHEN HE COMES
DOWN TO EARTH,

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HE TRIES TO GET US NOT TO GIVE
HONOR TO GOD OR HONOR TO PEOPLE.

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NOW, SEE, WE, REALLY,
WE WORSHIP GOD,

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AND WITH OUR WORSHIP,
WE HONOR GOD.

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WE DON'T WORSHIP
PEOPLE, BUT HONOR,

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BECAUSE WE'RE MADE IN THE
SAME IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD,

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WITHOUT HONOR, WE
CANNOT LIVE A MIRACULOUS LIFE.

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SO THE ENEMY WILL TRY TO BRING
IN A SERIES OF DEHONORING EVENTS

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TO ACTUALLY
LIVE WITHIN OURSELVES

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INSTEAD OF LIVING
IN THE MIRACLES OF HEAVEN.

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REBECCA: WOW.
MAN.

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DALE: SO EVERY ATTACK
AGAINST YOUR VALUE,

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EVERY ATTACK TO TAKE HONOR
OFF OF YOU IS A DEMONIC PLOT

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TO STEAL THE
MIRACLES FATHER GOD

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HAS ORCHESTRATED AND DETERMINED
TO BE PART OF YOUR LIFE.

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AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WAITING
FOR SOMEONE TO HONOR THEM.

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BUT THE BIBLE SAYS,
WHATEVER WE SOW, WE REAP.

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SO IF YOU REALLY WANT
TO EXPERIENCE HONOR,

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YOU START SOWING HONOR.


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NOW, YOU CANNOT FLATTER.


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IN OTHER WORDS, FLATTERY
WOULD BE COMING TO SOMEBODY

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AND SAYING,
YOU'RE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL,

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YOU'RE THE MOST WISE, OR
YOU'RE THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON

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ON THE EARTH.


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WHENEVER YOU SAY MOST,
THAT'S COMPARATIVE.

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HOW ABOUT JUST SAYING
YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL?

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YOU'RE WISE?


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WHY DO YOU HAVE
TO BE THE MOST?

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THIS IS NOT COMPETITION.


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SO WHEN YOU SAY THINGS
THAT ARE NOT FLATTERY

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BUT THAT ARE TRUTHFUL, YOU
BRING HONOR ON PEOPLE.

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SO IF I SAY TO
YOU, REBECCA,

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YOU HAVE AN AWESOME HEART.


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YOU HAVE A HEART FOR GOD,
YOU HAVE A HEART FOR PEOPLE,

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YOU HAVE
AN AWESOME HEART.

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SEE, I THINK THAT'S
ONE OF YOUR GIFTS,

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IS TO HAVE A HEART THAT
CAN CONNECT TO PEOPLE,

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CONNECT TO GOD.


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AND SO YOU HAVE TO PROTECT
THAT, BECAUSE IT'S A GIFT.

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NOW, IN IT, AS
I HONOR THAT.

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BUT IF I SAID TO YOU, YOU'RE
JUST SUCH A GREAT BALLERINA,

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LIKE, WHAT'S
HE TALKING ABOUT?

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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[ LAUGHING ]


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DALE: OKAY.


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OR THAT IF I SAY SOMETHING
THAT IS NOT TRUE

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OR SOMETHING THAT
IS EXAGGERATED,

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IT'S FLATTERY TO TRY TO GAIN
A CONTROL, IN OTHER WORDS.

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SO LIKE IT'S HONOR'S
REALLY IMPORTANT.

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I HAD A GUY COME UP TO
ME AND HE SAID TO ME,

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HE SAID, DALE, YOU KNOW
THAT PROPHETIC THING,

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YOU'RE REALLY GREAT AT IT.


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NOW, SEE, THIS IS WHERE WE
LEARNED SOMETHING:

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HOW TO HANDLE HONOR.


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SEE, I USED TO SAY,
OH, THAT WAS NOTHING.

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WELL, WHAT AM I SAYING?


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IS WHAT GOD DID
THROUGH ME NOTHING?

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AND NOW I'M PUTTING
DOWN GOD, NOT ME.

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WELL, I'LL SAY, WELL, IT'S
ALL GOD, I'M NOTHING.

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WELL, THAT MEANS THAT WHAT
GOD CREATED WAS NOTHING,

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SO I'M PUTTING DOWN
HIS CREATIVITY.

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SO THAT'S REALLY STUPID.


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AND WHEN YOU PUT
YOURSELF DOWN,

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THE DEVIL WILL TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF IT.

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SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS,
WE HAVE TO LEARN

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WHEN PEOPLE HONOR US,
WE SAY THANK YOU,

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THAT REALLY IS
ENCOURAGING TO ME

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BECAUSE ENCOURAGEMENT
IS A GIFT.

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AND THANK YOU FOR
ENCOURAGING ME.

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I HAD A YOUNG
MAN SAY, AGAIN,

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THAT PROPHETIC THING
YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT,

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I SAID, I KNOW, THAT'S
WHAT GOD MADE ME FOR.

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I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION:
WHAT DID HE MAKE YOU FOR?

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BECAUSE WHATEVER IT IS,
YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT IT.

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AND IF WE START TO REALIZE
THAT WE BRING OTHER PEOPLE UP,

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WE HONOR OTHER
PEOPLE AND WE HONOR GOD.

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AND THEN I SAY, LORD,
I WANT TO HONOR YOU

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THAT YOU'D
GIVEN ME WISDOM.

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WITHOUT YOU, I WOULDN'T
HAVE ANY WISDOM.

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ONE DAY, I WAS FEELING REALLY
WISE AND I WAS THANKING GOD,

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I SAID, GOD,
I JUST THANK YOU

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FOR THE WISDOM
YOU GAVE ME.

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I WAS REALLY FEELING GOOD.


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IT WAS ONE OF THOSE DAYS,
AND I THINK I WAS HAVING

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A LITTLE WALK
IN MY FLESH.

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BUT ANYWAY, I SAID, LORD,
THANK YOU FOR WISDOM.

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AND HE SAID, DALE,
COULD WE TALK ABOUT IT?

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I SAID, YEAH.


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HE SAID, YOU KNOW
THAT OVER THERE?

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HE SAID, THAT WAS ME.


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THAT WASN'T YOU.


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AND HE SAID, REMEMBER
THAT OVER THERE?

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HE SAID, THAT WAS ME THAT
GAVE YOU THAT THOUGHT.

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THAT WASN'T YOU.


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HE SAID, REMEMBER WE
WERE AT THAT OVER THERE?

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I SAID, YEAH.


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DIDN'T I GO TO THAT?


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HE SAYS, THAT WAS
YOU WITHOUT ME.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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DALE: AND I JUST
LAUGHED AT HIM,

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AND IT WAS TRUE, BECAUSE
I RECEIVED WISDOM,

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HE'S MADE ME WISE.


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BUT IT'S HIM, IT'S NOT
ME JUST BEING WISE.

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AND SO EVERYTHING I
AM, EVERYTHING I DO,

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I GIVE HIM WORSHIP.


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BUT THE THING IS, YOU CAN
HONOR THE WISDOM IN ME,

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BUT I GIVE HIM THE WORSHIP
FOR GIVING IT TO ME.

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SO WE LEARN NOT TO TAKE,
HOW CAN I SAY WORSHIP?

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WE DON'T SHOPLIFT GLORY.


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WE GIVE IT ALL TO HIM.


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AND THEN HE GIVES US MORE.


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SO YOU HAVE A GIFT.


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AND YOU'RE STILL
VERY YOUNG.

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SO I DIDN'T KNOW I COULD WRITE
BOOKS UNTIL I WAS AFTER 60.

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I DIDN'T KNOW I
WAS GOOD AT IT.

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BECAUSE I HAD A JUDGMENT
AGAINST MYSELF.

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REBECCA: WHAT WAS THAT?


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DALE: WELL, IT
WENT, HM, WELL,

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COULD BE WHEN I WAS IN
FIFTH GRADE, I FAILED,

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I HAD TO TAKE
SUMMER SCHOOL.

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THAT WASN'T A GOOD HELP.


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BUT WHEN I WENT
INTO SEVENTH GRADE,

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AND MY SISTER, A YEAR
OLDER, MADE STRAIGHT A'S,

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I GO INTO HISTORY CLASS.


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AND THE FIRST
DAY, HE SAID,

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WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE A QUIZ.

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NO, HE DIDN'T SAY WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE A QUIZ.

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HE SAID, READ
THESE SEVEN PAGES.

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I NEVER READ AHEAD.


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I WAS LIKE, I'LL
LISTEN, LEARN,

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AND GIVE THE ANSWER.


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I NEVER READ AHEAD.


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SO THEY GIVE
US A POP QUIZ.

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I DIDN'T READ IT,
SO I GOT AN F.

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HE COMES IN FRONT OF MY
DESK, MR. HILL, CARL HILL,

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HE COMES UP AND SAYS,
YOU MAY BE A MAST,

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BUT YOU'RE NOT
YOUR SISTER.

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AND HE PUT DOWN, IT HAD A
BIG RED F, AND LIKE, OKAY.

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AND HE SAID IT OUT LOUD,
SO I FELT LIKE A FAILURE.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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DALE: AND I REMEMBER TEACHING IT
30 YEARS LATER AT A PLACE,

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AND I SAID, I
WISH I WAS A GOOD TEACHER,

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BECAUSE THAT, IF I
WASN'T A GOOD STUDENT,

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I COULDN'T BE
A GOOD TEACHER.

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NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT'S
INTERESTING IS,

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I FORGOT THAT I MADE STRAIGHT
A'S IN HIS CLASS AFTER THAT F

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BECAUSE
I LOVED HISTORY.

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MR. CARL HILL,
IT'S IN MY BOOK,

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HE INVITED ME TO SPEAK
TO HIS MEN'S GROUP,

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AND HE SAID, DALE WAS
ONE OF MY BEST STUDENTS.

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YOU KNOW WHAT I REMEMBER?


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THE F.


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I DIDN'T REMEMBER
THE A'S OR THAT.

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BUT WHEN HE INVITED ME, I
PUT IT THIS WAY: HE HELPED ME

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OVER THAT HILL THAT
I WAS A GOOD STUDENT

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AND I COULD BE
A GOOD TEACHER.

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AND YOU KNOW WHAT I DID?


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I STARTED STUDYING BETTER AND IT
LED ME TO BE AN AUTHOR OF BOOKS

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BECAUSE THAT JUDGMENT
WAS AGAINST MY IDENTITY,

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IT WAS
AGAINST MY GENIUS.

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AND MY BOOK,<i>AND DAVID
PERCEIVED HE WAS KING</i> ,

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IS NOW IN NINE, IT'S GOING
INTO TWO MORE LANGUAGES,

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INTO VIETNAMESE
AND INTO FRENCH.

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BUT I HAD TO BREAK THAT
JUDGMENT AGAINST MY IDENTITY.

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SO WHEREVER YOU ARE
CALLED TO MAKE IMPACT,

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THE DEVIL WILL SEND
DISHONORING EVENTS

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TO LITERALLY TRY TO STEAL
YOUR FUTURE, YOUR DESTINY.

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AND SO I'M A PROPHET.


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I PASTORED 40 YEARS, BUT
I TRAVELED AS A PROPHET.

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AND I SAY THIS: AN EVANGELIST
WARS FOR YOUR SOUL.

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A PROPHET WARS
FOR YOUR DESTINY.

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WHAT YOU'VE BEEN
SAVED FOR IS GREATER

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THAN WHAT YOU'VE
BEEN SAVED FROM,

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BUT YOU STILL HAVE
TO BE SAVED FROM IT.

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SO WHAT DID GOD
SAVE BEFORE?

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SEE, PART OF IT, HERE YOU
ARE WITH A MICROPHONE,

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AND PART OF WHAT YOU'VE
BEEN SAVED FOR IS TO

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COMMUNICATE HOPE
TO OTHER PEOPLE.

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AND WHEN YOU START
TO UNDERSTAND THAT,

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THEN YOU'LL APPROACH IT
NOT -- YOU'LL APPROACH IT

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AS PART OF YOUR GENIUS.


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YOU'LL START ASKING
GOD FOR MORE INSIGHT.

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YOU'LL START RECEIVING
MORE REVELATION.

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AND ACTUALLY, YOU'LL
GET CLOSER TO HIS FACE,

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AND THE CLOSER
YOU GET TO HIM,

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THE MORE YOU START
LOOKING LIKE YOUR FATHER.

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AND THEN YOU START
TALKING LIKE HIM,

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YOU START
THINKING LIKE HIM.

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AND HIS HEART IS
IN YOUR HEART.

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HIS THOUGHTS ARE
IN YOUR THOUGHTS.

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HIS VOICE IS
IN YOUR VOICE.

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AND THEN LIFE GETS
TO BE EXCITING.

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GETTING DRUNK
ON A WEEKEND,

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ANYBODY CAN DO THAT.


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BUT TO LIVE WITH GOD, I
MEAN, THAT'S AN ADVENTURE.

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[ CHUCKLES ]


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REBECCA: HOW DID YOU REALLY
START GETTING THE DOWNLOAD

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OF YOUR
IDENTITY TO YOU?

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DALE: WELL, GO BACK TO
MY GRANDFATHER WAS AN ORPHAN.

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MY FATHER WAS THE OLDEST
CHILD RAISED BY AN ORPHAN.

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REBECCA: OH, NO.


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DALE: YEAH.


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AND SO MY FATHER, YEAH,
MY FATHER GAVE ME MORE

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THAN HIS FATHER
GAVE HIM.

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BUT NOT ENOUGH.


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AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WHEN
I WAS WRITING MY FIRST BOOK,

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<i>AND DAVID PERCEIVED
HE WAS KING</i> ,

00:10:37.433 --> 00:10:40.400
UNTIL I GOT TO THE END,
I WROTE, AN IDENTITY,

00:10:40.500 --> 00:10:43.433
AND GOD SAID, THIS WHOLE
BOOK IS ON IDENTITY

00:10:43.533 --> 00:10:46.066
BECAUSE YOU'VE
STRUGGLED WITH THIS.

00:10:46.166 --> 00:10:47.299
I DIDN'T EVEN GET
IT UNTIL THE END.

00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:49.233
SO I HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH
THE WHOLE BOOK AND WRITE IT.

00:10:49.333 --> 00:10:51.533
WE'RE NOT ALWAYS THE
BRIGHTEST LIGHT ON THE STREET,

00:10:51.633 --> 00:10:52.333
BUT WE CATCH ON.


00:10:52.433 --> 00:10:54.100
[ LAUGHING ]


00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.433
DALE: SO I WENT BACK
AND WROTE IT THROUGH,

00:10:56.533 --> 00:11:01.200
AND THEN I STARTED SEEING MY
WHOLE LIFE WAS ABOUT IDENTITY.

00:11:01.300 --> 00:11:02.166
THE STRUGGLE.


00:11:02.266 --> 00:11:04.133
THAT, THAT WAS
MY STRUGGLE,

00:11:04.233 --> 00:11:06.633
BUT THAT'S MY STRENGTH
TO GIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE.

00:11:06.733 --> 00:11:08.100
REBECCA: THAT'S THE
HOPE I TAKE FROM THAT,

00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:11.600
BECAUSE I USED TO BE DISCOURAGED
BY LIKE MY OWN BROKENNESS

00:11:11.700 --> 00:11:13.533
AND MY OWN
STRUGGLE UNTIL I REALIZED

00:11:13.633 --> 00:11:16.166
THAT GOD WILL SHOW YOU
THE PATH TO HEALING.

00:11:16.266 --> 00:11:17.633
IT'S NOT SOMETHING
YOU DO ON YOUR OWN,

00:11:17.733 --> 00:11:20.966
YOU DO IT WITH HIM, AND HE WILL
TAKE WHAT THE STRUGGLE IS

00:11:21.066 --> 00:11:22.633
AND USE IT
TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.

00:11:22.733 --> 00:11:23.733
BECAUSE EVERY PERSON
THAT I INTERVIEW,

00:11:23.833 --> 00:11:25.600
WHATEVER THEIR PROBLEM
OR THEIR STRUGGLE WAS,

00:11:25.700 --> 00:11:27.866
THAT'S HOW GOD USES THEM
TYPICALLY TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.

00:11:27.966 --> 00:11:29.100
DALE: YEAH.


00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:32.133
YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN
PEOPLE OFF OF HEAVY DRUGS,

00:11:32.233 --> 00:11:33.467
COCAINE, HEROIN.


00:11:33.567 --> 00:11:34.566
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:11:34.666 --> 00:11:35.233
[ LAUGHING ]


00:11:35.333 --> 00:11:35.900
DALE: I HAVEN'T.


00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:36.599
REBECCA: AND I HAVEN'T.


00:11:36.699 --> 00:11:37.366
[ LAUGHING ]


00:11:37.466 --> 00:11:38.400
DALE: NOW,
I NEVER DID IT.

00:11:38.500 --> 00:11:40.566
I THINK I DRANK BOOM'S
FARM ONCE OR TWICE.

00:11:40.666 --> 00:11:45.100
AND MY DRINKING CAREER,
YOU COULD PUT IN THE END OF A --

00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:46.400
SO I NEVER
GET PEOPLE HEALED.

00:11:46.500 --> 00:11:48.567
I HAVE FRIENDS, PASTORS,
THAT WERE INTO

00:11:48.667 --> 00:11:51.067
ALL KINDS OF CRAZY STUFF
IN THE '70S,

00:11:51.167 --> 00:11:52.300
AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
GETTING DELIVERED

00:11:52.400 --> 00:11:53.966
IN THEIR CHURCH.


00:11:54.066 --> 00:11:58.567
SO IN IT, NOW, THINK
OF IT THIS WAY,

00:11:58.667 --> 00:12:01.933
WHAT YOU FACE WHEN
YOU UNDERSTAND IT

00:12:02.033 --> 00:12:03.766
AND YOU OVERCOME IT,


00:12:03.866 --> 00:12:05.866
YOU BECOME A
GIFT TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE

00:12:05.966 --> 00:12:08.133
OVERCOME THE SAME THING.


00:12:08.233 --> 00:12:10.166
REBECCA: WOW.


00:12:10.266 --> 00:12:13.733
DALE: AND I ASKED THIS
QUESTION: WOULD YOU RATHER

00:12:13.833 --> 00:12:17.933
HAVE WHAT JESUS HAS OR
WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE JESUS?

00:12:18.033 --> 00:12:18.900
OKAY.


00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.767
SO JESUS IS A GIFT.


00:12:21.867 --> 00:12:25.766
THE GIFTS HE GIVES
ARE THE EXTRAS.

00:12:25.866 --> 00:12:28.200
UNTIL YOU SEE
YOURSELF AS THE GIFT,

00:12:28.300 --> 00:12:32.133
YOU'LL NEVER SHOW
UP THE RIGHT WAY.

00:12:32.233 --> 00:12:34.333
REBECCA: YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE
WOULD SAY TO THAT, THOUGH.

00:12:34.433 --> 00:12:35.133
DALE: WHAT?


00:12:35.233 --> 00:12:35.866
REBECCA: THEY
WOULD SAY, OH,

00:12:35.966 --> 00:12:36.733
YOU SEE YOURSELF
AS A GIFT?

00:12:36.833 --> 00:12:38.100
THAT'S PRIDEFUL.


00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:39.400
DALE: NO.


00:12:39.500 --> 00:12:43.300
I SEE MYSELF AS A GIFT FROM
FATHER GOD, AND THAT'S HUMBLE.

00:12:43.400 --> 00:12:45.333
REBECCA: SEE, THAT'S
THE SWITCH IN THE THINKING.

00:12:45.433 --> 00:12:48.666
DALE: I'M NOT GIVING
MYSELF, HE GAVE ME.

00:12:48.766 --> 00:12:50.966
GOD SO LOVED THE
WORLD, HE SENT HIS SON.

00:12:51.066 --> 00:12:55.200
GOD LOVES THE WORLD, HE SENDS
HIS SONS AND DAUGHTERS AS GIFTS

00:12:55.300 --> 00:12:56.566
TO GIVE
TO OTHER PEOPLE,

00:12:56.666 --> 00:12:59.000
TO HELP -- A GIFT
IS NEVER ABOUT YOU,

00:12:59.100 --> 00:13:03.433
IT'S ABOUT BLESSING
SOMEONE ELSE.

00:13:03.533 --> 00:13:07.033
DO YOU GET WHAT I'M --
SO LIKE IF I GIVE A --

00:13:07.133 --> 00:13:08.066
REBECCA: IT'S
KINGDOM THINKING,

00:13:08.166 --> 00:13:08.933
THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT.


00:13:09.033 --> 00:13:10.099
DALE: KINGDOM THINKING.


00:13:10.199 --> 00:13:13.666
SEE, BECAUSE WE'RE SO
CARNALLY INVADED THAT TO SAY

00:13:13.766 --> 00:13:18.800
THAT SOMEBODY IS A
GIFT, BUT PEOPLE SAY THAT.

00:13:18.900 --> 00:13:20.133
YOU'RE A GIFT TO ME.


00:13:20.233 --> 00:13:21.066
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?


00:13:21.166 --> 00:13:24.367
WHO YOU ARE HELPS
ME BECOME WHO I AM.

00:13:24.467 --> 00:13:27.533
SO IN IT, WHEN YOU
REALIZE YOU'RE A GIFT,

00:13:27.633 --> 00:13:29.433
AND I'LL TELL YOU
WHAT THE ADVANTAGE IS.

00:13:29.533 --> 00:13:31.567
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING
FOR ACCEPTANCE,

00:13:31.667 --> 00:13:34.500
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR INFLUENCE
AND TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:35.700
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:13:35.800 --> 00:13:36.800
YOU DON'T NEED
PEOPLE TO ACCEPT YOU,

00:13:36.900 --> 00:13:38.233
SO YOU'RE NOT
CONTROLLED BY THEM.

00:13:38.333 --> 00:13:39.266
DALE: NO.


00:13:39.366 --> 00:13:40.833
MY GOAL IS HERE IS TO
MAKE YOU FEEL LOVED,

00:13:40.933 --> 00:13:43.499
AND WHOEVER IS LISTENING
TO FEEL IMPORTANT,

00:13:43.599 --> 00:13:45.600
NOT TO SAY HOW
IMPORTANT I AM.

00:13:45.700 --> 00:13:50.000
I ONLY SHARE MY STORY TO
LET YOU KNOW THE STRUGGLE I HAD

00:13:50.100 --> 00:13:55.699
TO GET HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU
THE STRUGGLE WAS WORTH IT.

00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:59.233
MY STORY WILL NOT KEEP
YOU FROM THE STRUGGLE.

00:13:59.333 --> 00:14:00.533
A LOT OF TIMES, I
HEAR PEOPLE SAY,

00:14:00.633 --> 00:14:02.667
I WANT TO TELL YOU MY STORY TO
KEEP YOU FROM THE STRUGGLE.

00:14:02.767 --> 00:14:04.900
I SAY, NO, NO.


00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.500
THAT'S CRAZY.


00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:08.400
MY STORY IS TO
KEEP YOU STRUGGLING

00:14:08.500 --> 00:14:09.499
WHILE YOU'RE STRUGGLING


00:14:09.599 --> 00:14:13.000
UNTIL YOU WIN
BECAUSE I STRUGGLED UNTIL I WON.

00:14:13.100 --> 00:14:16.133
AND LAST WEEK, I HAD TO DEAL
WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DEPRESSION,

00:14:16.233 --> 00:14:18.333
IT TOOK ME BACK TO SOMETHING
IN MY CHILDHOOD.

00:14:18.433 --> 00:14:20.700
AND I REALIZED I DEALT
WITH IT AND GOD SAID,

00:14:20.800 --> 00:14:23.600
WELL, WE'RE NOT QUITE DONE
WITH IT BECAUSE, SEE,

00:14:23.700 --> 00:14:26.399
WHENEVER I HAD PAIN,
I DON'T RUN FROM IT,

00:14:26.499 --> 00:14:29.633
I RUN TOWARD IT BECAUSE
WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR,

00:14:29.733 --> 00:14:31.467
WHAT'S THE FIRST
QUESTION THEY ASK YOU?

00:14:31.567 --> 00:14:32.233
REBECCA: WHAT HURTS?


00:14:32.333 --> 00:14:33.799
DALE: WHERE
DOES IT HURT?

00:14:33.899 --> 00:14:34.600
OKAY.


00:14:34.700 --> 00:14:35.766
SO YOU SAY WHERE
DOES IT HURT?

00:14:35.866 --> 00:14:38.100
IN MY MIND, OKAY,
I HAVE THIS MEMORY.

00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:42.499
WHAT IS THE PAIN, IF I WAS
TO PUT WORDS TO THAT PAIN,

00:14:42.599 --> 00:14:44.466
WHAT WOULD IT SAY?


00:14:44.566 --> 00:14:46.966
I'M NOT IMPORTANT.


00:14:47.066 --> 00:14:48.300
YOU'RE IN THE WAY.


00:14:48.400 --> 00:14:52.233
I WISH SOMEBODY ELSE
WOULD HAVE COME.

00:14:52.333 --> 00:14:55.066
I WISH YOU COULD BE
MORE LIKE YOUR SISTER,

00:14:55.166 --> 00:14:58.733
I WISH YOU COULD BE
MORE LIKE YOUR BROTHER.

00:14:58.833 --> 00:15:00.767
I WISH MY HAIR
WAS STRAIGHT,

00:15:00.867 --> 00:15:03.200
I WISH IT WAS CURLY,
I WISH I WAS TALLER,

00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:04.933
I WISH I WAS SHORTER.


00:15:05.033 --> 00:15:08.867
IT'S LIKE, I HAVE A GOOD
FRIEND, AND HE'S 6'6",

00:15:08.967 --> 00:15:11.833
AND HE SAID, I
WISH I WAS SHORTER.

00:15:11.933 --> 00:15:14.499
I SAID, DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY
PEOPLE WISH THEY WERE TALLER?

00:15:14.599 --> 00:15:16.800
[ LAUGHING ]


00:15:16.900 --> 00:15:18.067
REBECCA: ISN'T
THAT FUNNY, THOUGH?

00:15:18.167 --> 00:15:19.866
DALE: AND IT'S LIKE,


00:15:19.966 --> 00:15:21.899
AND SAY WHEN WE WISH
WE WERE SOMETHING ELSE,

00:15:21.999 --> 00:15:24.400
WHAT ARE WE
SAYING TO GOD?

00:15:24.500 --> 00:15:27.000
REBECCA: THAT HE
DIDN'T MAKE US CORRECTLY.

00:15:27.100 --> 00:15:28.366
DALE: THAT WE'RE TRYING
TO TELL THE CREATOR

00:15:28.466 --> 00:15:30.566
HOW HE SHOULD HAVE
CREATED US.

00:15:30.666 --> 00:15:32.800
NOW, DON'T YOU THINK IT'S
A LITTLE BIT INSULTING?

00:15:32.900 --> 00:15:33.966
REBECCA: YES.


00:15:34.066 --> 00:15:36.866
DALE: LIKE WHEN
YOU WERE MAKING ME,

00:15:36.966 --> 00:15:38.699
DID YOU HAVE YOUR CUP
OF COFFEE THAT MORNING?

00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:40.033
WERE YOU
HAVING GOOD THOUGHTS

00:15:40.133 --> 00:15:42.700
OR BECAUSE WHY DIDN'T YOU
GIVE ME THIS TALENT?

00:15:42.800 --> 00:15:45.866
WHY DIDN'T YOU
GIVE ME THAT VOICE?

00:15:45.966 --> 00:15:47.399
I ALWAYS WANTED
TO BE IN WORSHIP.

00:15:47.499 --> 00:15:49.167
AND I WAS A
WORSHIP LEADER.

00:15:49.267 --> 00:15:52.500
WHY DIDN'T YOU GIVE ME
A VOICE SO I COULD MAKE RECORDS?

00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.200
BUT HE GAVE ME A GOOD ENOUGH
VOICE TO BE A WORSHIP LEADER,

00:15:56.300 --> 00:15:57.433
TO HAVE
A SPIRIT OF WORSHIP,

00:15:57.533 --> 00:15:59.699
BUT NOT ONE SO GOOD
THAT I'D BE CONFUSED

00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:01.766
THAT I SHOULD
MAKE ALBUMS.

00:16:01.866 --> 00:16:02.800
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:16:02.900 --> 00:16:05.333
BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING
WHAT YOUR CALL IS NOW.

00:16:05.433 --> 00:16:07.333
YOU KNOW WHAT'S SO
INTERESTING IS THAT ONE OF

00:16:07.433 --> 00:16:11.466
THE FEW TIMES WHERE
I FELT LIKE GOD'S ANGER

00:16:11.566 --> 00:16:14.433
WAS WHEN I WAS 18 AND I
HAD SURRENDERED MY,

00:16:14.533 --> 00:16:15.933
BECAUSE I WENT
WAYWARD IN COLLEGE,

00:16:16.033 --> 00:16:19.299
I SURRENDERED MY LIFE,
AND I REMEMBER WHEN --

00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:21.866
I HEARD THE TESTIMONY
OF A MISSIONARY,

00:16:21.966 --> 00:16:25.700
AND SO I WAS SO MOVED BY
HIS TESTIMONY AND SEEING JESUS,

00:16:25.800 --> 00:16:28.633
IT THREW HIM.


00:16:28.733 --> 00:16:30.799
I GAVE MY LIFE TO THE LORD
AND I SAID, HERE'S MY LIFE.

00:16:30.899 --> 00:16:32.200
AND IMMEDIATELY GOING
THROUGH MY MIND,

00:16:32.300 --> 00:16:34.333
ALL THE COMPARISONS I
MADE GROWING UP, OH,

00:16:34.433 --> 00:16:35.299
YOU'RE NOT LIKE
THIS PERSON,

00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:36.366
YOU'RE NOT LIKE
THIS PERSON.

00:16:36.466 --> 00:16:39.033
AND SO I HAD SUCH A LOW
SELF-VIEW OF MYSELF,

00:16:39.133 --> 00:16:41.566
SUCH LOW VALUE,
SELF-WORTH.

00:16:41.666 --> 00:16:42.733
AND I SAID, I
GIVE YOU MY LIFE,

00:16:42.833 --> 00:16:44.500
BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.


00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:47.166
SO AND I WAS LIKE, HERE'S
A WORTHLESS PERSON,

00:16:47.266 --> 00:16:50.100
AND I FELT GOD'S ANGER,
AND I REMEMBER HIM SAYING,

00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.700
I DIDN'T MAKE YOU LIKE
THAT PERSON FOR A REASON.

00:16:52.800 --> 00:16:54.900
I MADE YOU THE WAY
YOU ARE FOR A REASON.

00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:57.533
AND SO RIGHT WHEN I GAVE MY
LIKE SURRENDERED MY LIFE TO GOD,

00:16:57.633 --> 00:16:59.766
THAT WAR FOR
IDENTITY WAS RIGHT THERE.

00:16:59.866 --> 00:17:01.000
BUT HE WAS ANGRY.


00:17:01.100 --> 00:17:03.399
I REALIZED YEARS LATER
WHEN I HAD MY OWN CHILDREN,

00:17:03.499 --> 00:17:05.000
HE WASN'T
ANGRY AT ME,

00:17:05.100 --> 00:17:07.033
HE WAS ANGRY THAT I
BELIEVED A LIE ABOUT MYSELF

00:17:07.133 --> 00:17:08.366
BECAUSE
HE WAS MY FATHER.

00:17:08.466 --> 00:17:09.566
DALE: YEAH.


00:17:09.666 --> 00:17:12.399
THAT WOULD BE LIKE ANY CHILD
LOOKING UP AT THEIR PARENT

00:17:12.499 --> 00:17:14.633
AND SAY, I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOU,

00:17:14.733 --> 00:17:16.166
BUT I WISH I DIDN'T
LOOK LIKE YOU.

00:17:16.266 --> 00:17:17.866
REBECCA: OH, THAT
WOULD BE SO HURTFUL.

00:17:17.966 --> 00:17:19.433
DALE: YEAH, THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE SAYING TO FATHER.

00:17:19.533 --> 00:17:20.299
REBECCA: WOW.


00:17:20.399 --> 00:17:21.766
DALE: AND SO
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO,

00:17:21.866 --> 00:17:24.533
YOU'LL NEVER FIND YOUR
IDENTITY LOOKING IN A MIRROR.

00:17:24.633 --> 00:17:26.733
YOU HAVE TO LOOK IN
YOUR FATHER'S FACE.

00:17:26.833 --> 00:17:30.867
UNTIL YOU CAN SEE FATHER GOD'S
FACE IN PART OF YOUR FACE,

00:17:30.967 --> 00:17:33.033
THEN YOU CAN'T -- YOU'RE REALLY
NOT GOING TO BE A GIFT.

00:17:33.133 --> 00:17:34.566
BUT WHEN YOU
SAY OKAY, LORD,

00:17:34.666 --> 00:17:37.067
YOU'VE GIVEN ME PATIENCE
TO TALK WITH PEOPLE,

00:17:37.167 --> 00:17:41.700
TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE, TO
COUNSEL PEOPLE, TO HELP PEOPLE.

00:17:41.800 --> 00:17:48.266
I'M NEVER GOING TO BE ON A STAGE
SINGING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE

00:17:48.366 --> 00:17:54.333
LISTENING UNLESS
IT'S AFTER THE MINISTRY

00:17:54.433 --> 00:17:56.899
AND I'M JUST GRAB
A MIC AND DO IT.

00:17:56.999 --> 00:17:58.833
YOU KNOW HOW SOME
PEOPLE, THEY'RE PASTORS,

00:17:58.933 --> 00:18:00.600
THEY'LL SING ALONG
WITH THE CHOIR,

00:18:00.700 --> 00:18:02.933
AND THEN THEY'LL TURN HIS MIC
DOWN AND THEY TURN UP THE CHOIR.

00:18:03.033 --> 00:18:03.533
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:18:03.633 --> 00:18:05.199
[ LAUGHING ]


00:18:05.299 --> 00:18:06.367
DALE: TRYING
TO HELP HIM OUT.

00:18:06.467 --> 00:18:07.299
REBECCA: YES!


00:18:07.399 --> 00:18:07.967
DALE: HE MAY
LIKE THE MIC,

00:18:08.067 --> 00:18:09.133
THE MIC DOESN'T LIKE YOU.


00:18:09.233 --> 00:18:09.699
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:10.666
[ LAUGHING ]


00:18:10.766 --> 00:18:11.833
DALE: I HAD
A GOOD FRIEND,

00:18:11.933 --> 00:18:13.799
I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT JOE.


00:18:13.899 --> 00:18:16.733
HE HAD SUCH A GREAT
SPIRIT OF WORSHIP.

00:18:16.833 --> 00:18:19.900
I LOVED TO STAND BESIDE
HIM WHEN HE WORSHIPED.

00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:23.533
HE WOULD SING OFF-BEAT.


00:18:23.633 --> 00:18:27.699
HE'S THE ONLY GUY I STOOD BESIDE
WHO COULD SING A WHOLE SONG

00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.099
AND NOT
HIT ONE NOTE.

00:18:30.199 --> 00:18:31.100
AND HE SANG LOUD.


00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:33.233
HE SANG SO LOUD THAT
WHEN I STOOD BESIDE HIM,

00:18:33.333 --> 00:18:36.433
I COULD NOT SING ON TUNE.


00:18:36.533 --> 00:18:39.233
BUT THE SPIRIT OF JOY
COMING OFF OF HIM

00:18:39.333 --> 00:18:42.167
BEAT EVERYBODY ON
THE WORSHIP TEAM.

00:18:42.267 --> 00:18:44.566
BUT GOD, PLEASE DON'T
GIVE HIM A MIC

00:18:44.666 --> 00:18:45.633
BECAUSE EVERYTHING
WILL GO DOWN.

00:18:45.733 --> 00:18:49.033
BUT HE HAD A
SPIRIT OF WORSHIP.

00:18:49.133 --> 00:18:52.567
AND THE THING IS, DON'T
EVER JUDGE YOURSELF,

00:18:52.667 --> 00:18:55.233
I CANNOT DO THIS BECAUSE
I DON'T HAVE THAT.

00:18:55.333 --> 00:18:56.800
AND IT BUBBLED OUT OF HIM.


00:18:56.900 --> 00:19:02.566
IF THERE WAS ANYBODY I WANTED TO
STAND BESIDE, IT WAS JOE.

00:19:02.666 --> 00:19:05.200
BECAUSE HE DIDN'T CARE.


00:19:05.300 --> 00:19:06.999
ALL HE COULD SEE WAS GOD.


00:19:07.099 --> 00:19:08.100
AND WHEN YOU
LOOKED IN HIS FACE,

00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.633
THE GLORY WAS SO STRONG.


00:19:10.733 --> 00:19:13.399
AND HE WASN'T EVEN CONCERNED
ABOUT HITTING ANY NOTE.

00:19:13.499 --> 00:19:15.533
NOT EVEN BEING
ON -- HE JUST WAS,

00:19:15.633 --> 00:19:19.266
AND HE'S THE WORST
SINGER I'VE EVER MET.

00:19:19.366 --> 00:19:20.767
BUT YOU KNOW
WHAT I LOVED?

00:19:20.867 --> 00:19:24.200
HE DID IT LIKE NOBODY WAS
LISTENING BUT HIS FATHER.

00:19:24.300 --> 00:19:28.900
AND IT WAS SO REFRESHING
TO BE AROUND SOMEBODY LIKE THAT

00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.333
AFTER BEING AROUND
PEOPLE TRYING TO BE PROFESSIONAL

00:19:31.433 --> 00:19:32.166
ON A MIC.


00:19:32.266 --> 00:19:34.566
IT IS JUST HIM
AND THE FATHER.

00:19:34.666 --> 00:19:38.333
AND SO I'D JUST ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE: LIVE LIKE IT'S YOU

00:19:38.433 --> 00:19:40.266
AND THE FATHER.


00:19:40.366 --> 00:19:41.400
IT'S SUCH A GIFT.


00:19:41.500 --> 00:19:43.833
REBECCA: WHEN YOU
FELT THAT SADNESS

00:19:43.933 --> 00:19:45.833
AND WHEN YOU FEEL PAIN
COME UP IN YOUR LIFE,

00:19:45.933 --> 00:19:47.699
BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS
SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC,

00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:48.933
I THINK PEOPLE
THINK THAT, OH,

00:19:49.033 --> 00:19:50.866
I GET SAVED AND EVERYTHING
IS SETTLED, BUT, REALLY,

00:19:50.966 --> 00:19:52.199
ONCE THE MOMENT
YOU GET SAVED,

00:19:52.299 --> 00:19:55.867
THE JOURNEY BEGINS OF
HEALING WITHIN THE SOUL.

00:19:55.967 --> 00:19:58.666
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN
YOU FEEL THAT PAIN?

00:19:58.766 --> 00:19:59.933
BECAUSE I THINK
SOME PEOPLE,

00:20:00.033 --> 00:20:00.733
BECAUSE THEY DON'T
KNOW WHAT TO DO,

00:20:00.833 --> 00:20:01.966
THEY RUN FROM IT.


00:20:02.066 --> 00:20:04.599
I THINK SOME PEOPLE THINK
I HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT MYSELF

00:20:04.699 --> 00:20:06.300
WHEN IT'S NOT
SOMETHING YOU DO ON YOUR OWN.

00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:09.733
WHAT DO PEOPLE DO WHEN
THIS STUFF COMES UP?

00:20:09.833 --> 00:20:10.733
DALE: YES.


00:20:10.833 --> 00:20:13.400
WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
WHEN PAIN COMES UP,

00:20:13.500 --> 00:20:16.066
THAT MEANS IT'S TIME
TO DEAL WITH IT.

00:20:16.166 --> 00:20:17.166
OKAY.


00:20:17.266 --> 00:20:19.333
DON'T EVER THINK, OKAY,
I NEED TO FIX MY LIFE.

00:20:19.433 --> 00:20:20.500
NO, NO.


00:20:20.600 --> 00:20:23.867
JUST WAIT UNTIL THE PAIN
COMES, THE OPPORTUNITY,

00:20:23.967 --> 00:20:26.500
BECAUSE GOD KNOWS
WHAT YOU NEED TO FACE

00:20:26.600 --> 00:20:28.767
AND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO
DEAL WITH IT.

00:20:28.867 --> 00:20:31.366
ACTUALLY, GOD WILL BRING UP
SITUATIONS HE BROUGHT UP

00:20:31.466 --> 00:20:34.800
WHEN YOU FIRST GOT SAVED
PROBABLY 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD

00:20:34.900 --> 00:20:38.633
AT A LEVEL
OF GREATER DEPTH

00:20:38.733 --> 00:20:40.500
BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE MATURE
ENOUGH TO SEE IT,

00:20:40.600 --> 00:20:44.033
YOU'RE ALSO HAVE THE
STRENGTH TO HANDLE IT.

00:20:44.133 --> 00:20:45.333
IF THE LORD WOULD HAVE
SHOWED ME EVERYTHING

00:20:45.433 --> 00:20:47.566
I NEEDED TO CHANGE
WHEN I GOT SAVED,

00:20:47.666 --> 00:20:49.100
I WOULD HAVE DIED AT
THE ALTAR RIGHT THERE,

00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.900
PASSED OUT, HAVE THE
USHERS DRAG ME OUT,

00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.467
TAKE ME TO
HEAVEN, JESUS,

00:20:53.567 --> 00:20:57.033
BECAUSE THIS
WOULD BE OVER BEYOND.

00:20:57.133 --> 00:20:59.666
BUT GOD WILL SET UP
A SERIES OF TESTS.

00:20:59.766 --> 00:21:03.633
PASSING YOUR MATH IN FIRST
GRADE DOES NOT GIVE YOU

00:21:03.733 --> 00:21:06.700
A DIPLOMA
IN HIGH SCHOOL.

00:21:06.800 --> 00:21:10.866
WHEN YOU COUNT TO 10,
THE TEACHERS CLAP.

00:21:10.966 --> 00:21:13.233
WHEN YOU DO DIVISION,
NOBODY CLAPS.

00:21:13.333 --> 00:21:15.533
[ LAUGHING ]


00:21:15.633 --> 00:21:16.800
DALE: THEY WERE JUST
TRYING TO ENCOURAGE YOU.

00:21:16.900 --> 00:21:18.033
YOU THOUGHT YOU
CONQUERED MATH.

00:21:18.133 --> 00:21:19.266
I GOT IT!


00:21:19.366 --> 00:21:20.133
OKAY.


00:21:20.233 --> 00:21:21.033
BUT


00:21:21.133 --> 00:21:21.899
[ CHUCKLES ]


00:21:21.999 --> 00:21:23.267
BE HAPPY THAT
YOU COUNTED TO 10,

00:21:23.367 --> 00:21:26.367
BUT JUST REALIZE, THERE'S
MANY MORE THINGS TO COME.

00:21:26.467 --> 00:21:32.633
AND JESUS IS SO COMMITTED
TO MAKING US INTO HIS IMAGE,

00:21:32.733 --> 00:21:35.033
HE WILL BRING
DIFFERENT EVENTS INTO OUR LIFE

00:21:35.133 --> 00:21:38.067
TO ACTUALLY SEPARATE
OUR SPIRIT AND OUR FLESH.

00:21:38.167 --> 00:21:39.000
REBECCA: WOW.


00:21:39.100 --> 00:21:41.599
DALE: SO LIKE I WAS
TELLING A STORY

00:21:41.699 --> 00:21:45.733
THAT WHEN I WAS OUT IN
CALIFORNIA, I WAS YOUNG,

00:21:45.833 --> 00:21:47.933
AND I WAS IN LOVE WITH
THE PASTOR'S DAUGHTER,

00:21:48.033 --> 00:21:50.400
AND WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT GETTING MARRIED.

00:21:50.500 --> 00:21:54.500
AND SO SHE WENT OFF TO COLLEGE
AND I WENT BACK TO DELAWARE,

00:21:54.600 --> 00:21:58.399
AND THEY INVITED ME BACK
TO BE THE YOUTH PASTOR.

00:21:58.499 --> 00:22:00.033
AND I WAS GOING
TO DO THIS.

00:22:00.133 --> 00:22:01.600
AND SO WHEN I CAME BACK,
THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PLACE

00:22:01.700 --> 00:22:04.767
FOR ME TO STAY, SO I WENT
AND STAYED IN THE PASTOR'S HOUSE

00:22:04.867 --> 00:22:06.466
IN HER BEDROOM.


00:22:06.566 --> 00:22:07.700
AND I HADN'T HEARD FROM
HER IN A LONG TIME.

00:22:07.800 --> 00:22:09.133
I KNEW SOMETHING WASN'T --


00:22:09.233 --> 00:22:10.900
WE WERE PLANNING ON
GETTING MARRIED.

00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.566
AND I HADN'T, AND
I THOUGHT, WELL,

00:22:13.666 --> 00:22:16.900
MAYBE SHE'S IN COLLEGE,
MAYBE I'LL SEE HER.

00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:21.033
SO I COME BACK, AND
NOBODY MENTIONS HER NAME.

00:22:21.133 --> 00:22:24.833
AND NOBODY SAYS HER
NAME FOR TWO WEEKS.

00:22:24.933 --> 00:22:26.766
AND THEN AFTERWARDS,
AND THEY PRAYED,

00:22:26.866 --> 00:22:28.300
AND GOD BLESS KATHLEEN.


00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:29.733
AND SAID, OKAY,
SOMEBODY SAID HER NAME.

00:22:29.833 --> 00:22:31.267
THEN A GOOD
FRIEND SAID, DALE,

00:22:31.367 --> 00:22:32.567
I JUST THINK YOU
SHOULD KNOW THIS.

00:22:32.667 --> 00:22:35.433
NOBODY WANTS TO HURT YOU,
BUT WHEN KATHLEEN CAME HOME,

00:22:35.533 --> 00:22:37.099
SHE CAME HOME
WITH TINY TIM.

00:22:37.199 --> 00:22:41.066
AND OF COURSE, HE WASN'T
TINY, HE WAS ABOUT 6'2".

00:22:41.166 --> 00:22:42.533
AND HE SAID, I THINK
SOMETHING'S GOING ON THERE.

00:22:42.633 --> 00:22:46.367
AND I SAID, WELL THAT
EXPLAINS THE LETTERS STOPPING.

00:22:46.467 --> 00:22:49.933
SO SHE CAME HOME
FOR CHRISTMAS,

00:22:50.033 --> 00:22:52.900
AND HER PARENTS'
25TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY.

00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:55.933
AND I WAS IN THE CHOIR.


00:22:56.033 --> 00:22:59.767
AND I SAID, KATHLEEN,
LET'S JUST GO OUT AND HAVE A,

00:22:59.867 --> 00:23:01.300
GO OUT AND TALK.


00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:03.166
AND TINY TIM WAS THERE, I
MET HIM, AND I THOUGHT,

00:23:03.266 --> 00:23:06.233
WELL, I COULD
STILL BE A FRIEND.

00:23:06.333 --> 00:23:08.766
AND WE WENT OUT AND HAD
A GOOD TIME TALKING,

00:23:08.866 --> 00:23:09.699
WE WERE SHARING
DIFFERENT THINGS,

00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:11.500
WHAT SHE'S GOING
THROUGH, AND I THOUGHT,

00:23:11.600 --> 00:23:14.900
THIS IS GREAT, MAYBE I'M
BACK IN THE RACE A LITTLE BIT.

00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.233
REBECCA: IT MADE YOU FEEL LIKE
YOU MAYBE HAD A CHANCE STILL.

00:23:17.333 --> 00:23:18.433
DALE: YEAH, A LITTLE
BIT OF A CHANCE.

00:23:18.533 --> 00:23:21.166
SO THE NEXT DAY


00:23:21.266 --> 00:23:24.266
WAS THEIR PARENTS'
25TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY,

00:23:24.366 --> 00:23:28.699
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT
ANNOUNCING OUR ENGAGEMENT,

00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:29.600
HER AND ME,


00:23:29.700 --> 00:23:31.833
ON THEIR 25th
WEDDING ANNIVERSARY.

00:23:31.933 --> 00:23:34.699
AND I HAD JUST HAD A MEAL
WITH HER THAT NIGHT.

00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.800
AND SO I'M IN THE
CHOIR AND HER PARENTS,

00:23:37.900 --> 00:23:40.700
THE PASTORS, WALK IN THE CHURCH
AND THEY'RE CELEBRATING.

00:23:40.800 --> 00:23:43.933
AT THE END, THEY SAID, WE HAVE
A VERY SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.

00:23:44.033 --> 00:23:47.333
AND I'M SITTING
THERE GOING,

00:23:47.433 --> 00:23:49.467
WE WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT
KATHLEEN AND TINY TIM

00:23:49.567 --> 00:23:51.833
ARE GETTING MARRIED.


00:23:51.933 --> 00:23:53.633
AND AS SOON AS
THAT WAS SAID,

00:23:53.733 --> 00:23:59.266
SHE TURNED AROUND AND
LOOKED AT ME UNDER THIS BIG HAT

00:23:59.366 --> 00:24:03.333
AND SMILED,
AND I'M LIKE, OKAY.

00:24:03.433 --> 00:24:05.200
SO I'M WALKING OUT, AND
PEOPLE ARE SAYING, DALE,

00:24:05.300 --> 00:24:06.666
YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE
BIT QUICKER NEXT TIME.

00:24:06.766 --> 00:24:08.633
EVERYBODY IN THE CHURCH
KNEW WE WERE AN ITEM.

00:24:08.733 --> 00:24:09.733
AND ANOTHER PERSON
SAID SOMETHING,

00:24:09.833 --> 00:24:14.366
AND I'M AT THE BACK DOOR
AND I SAID, LORD,

00:24:14.466 --> 00:24:15.900
AND I SAID -- HE SAID, WHAT
ARE YOU THINKING, DALE?

00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:16.900
I SAID, I'M OUT OF HERE.


00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:20.067
HE SAID, DALE, IF YOU
START RUNNING NOW,

00:24:20.167 --> 00:24:22.833
WHEN WILL YOU STOP?


00:24:22.933 --> 00:24:24.700
HE SAID, THIS
IS JUST A TEST.

00:24:24.800 --> 00:24:26.933
WELL, I BECAME
FRIENDS WITH TIM.

00:24:27.033 --> 00:24:30.999
AND HE ACTUALLY ASKED ME
TO BE IN HIS WEDDING.

00:24:31.099 --> 00:24:33.100
HE SAID, DALE, HE SAID, IF
I WANTED TO ASK THE OTHER GUY,

00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:34.967
YOU AND ME, WE
GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER,

00:24:35.067 --> 00:24:36.966
REALLY HAD A GREAT
TIME, HE'S A GREAT GUY.

00:24:37.066 --> 00:24:40.333
AND HE SAID, I'D ASK
YOU TO BE MY BEST MAN.

00:24:40.433 --> 00:24:44.799
AND I ACTUALLY TOOK
PICTURES OF THEIR,

00:24:44.899 --> 00:24:45.867
THE STUFF AND ALL.


00:24:45.967 --> 00:24:47.367
AND GOD WAS SAYING, OKAY.


00:24:47.467 --> 00:24:51.833
AND I'M TELLING YOU, GOD
FILLETED MY FLESH,

00:24:51.933 --> 00:24:54.400
HE TOOK THE RUN
OUT OF MY SPIRIT.

00:24:54.500 --> 00:24:56.366
THAT HAS
ACTUALLY HELPED ME

00:24:56.466 --> 00:24:58.467
THROUGH MANY
DIFFICULT SITUATIONS

00:24:58.567 --> 00:25:00.766
WHEN HE SAID,
IF YOU START RUNNING NOW.

00:25:00.866 --> 00:25:03.899
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE
NOT RUN FROM SITUATIONS,

00:25:03.999 --> 00:25:05.633
AND THAT'S WHY I'M
AT WHERE I'M AT.

00:25:05.733 --> 00:25:08.733
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHENEVER
YOU RUN FROM A SITUATION,

00:25:08.833 --> 00:25:11.666
THAT'S WHERE
YOUR LEVEL OF ANOINTING STOPS

00:25:11.766 --> 00:25:13.167
UNTIL YOU GET
BACK IN THE RACE.

00:25:13.267 --> 00:25:15.499
IF YOU SAY, I'M OUT OF
HERE OVER THIS, GOD SAID,

00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:16.900
WELL, I HAD MORE.


00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:18.333
BUT IF THAT'S
WHERE YOU RUN,

00:25:18.433 --> 00:25:20.500
YOU'VE DETERMINED
YOUR LEVEL.

00:25:20.600 --> 00:25:21.700
DO YOU KNOW WHEN
YOU QUIT IN COLLEGE,

00:25:21.800 --> 00:25:25.799
WHATEVER LEVEL YOU QUIT,
THAT'S THE LEVEL YOU OPERATE AT?

00:25:25.899 --> 00:25:28.899
YOU CAN QUIT AFTER
YOUR BAR EXAMS

00:25:28.999 --> 00:25:30.967
AND THEN
OPERATE AS A LAWYER.

00:25:31.067 --> 00:25:32.066
YOU DON'T NEED TO
GO BACK ANYMORE,

00:25:32.166 --> 00:25:33.433
YOU'VE PASSED THE TEST.


00:25:33.533 --> 00:25:35.666
BUT IF YOU QUIT IN
THE MIDDLE OF IT,

00:25:35.766 --> 00:25:37.533
YOU CANNOT BE A LAWYER.


00:25:37.633 --> 00:25:41.633
SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE,
DON'T QUIT, IT'S WORTH IT.

00:25:41.733 --> 00:25:46.266
AND THIS IS THE DEAL: IF GOD
ALLOWS YOU TO GO THROUGH IT,

00:25:46.366 --> 00:25:48.933
HE KNOWS
YOU CAN OVERCOME IT.

00:25:49.033 --> 00:25:51.466
I SAID, GOD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
HAVE SUCH A HIGH OPINION OF ME.

00:25:51.566 --> 00:25:53.333
[ LAUGHING ]


00:25:53.433 --> 00:25:54.399
I SAID, OKAY.


00:25:54.499 --> 00:25:55.800
OKAY, I'LL TAKE IT, I'LL
TAKE THE HIGH OPINION,

00:25:55.900 --> 00:25:57.267
LET'S DO IT, LET'S ROCK.


00:25:57.367 --> 00:26:01.233
LET'S DO THIS, BECAUSE
I'M NOT A CHICKEN, I'M AN EAGLE.

00:26:01.333 --> 00:26:02.933
AND I'M SERIOUS.


00:26:03.033 --> 00:26:08.866
IT'S LIKE, IF YOU'RE NOT
RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS,

00:26:08.966 --> 00:26:11.133
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
ANYTHING GREAT.

00:26:11.233 --> 00:26:12.900
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.733
WELL, WE'RE OUT OF TIME.


00:26:15.833 --> 00:26:18.167
IS THERE JUST ONE FINAL THOUGHT
YOU WANT TO SHARE

00:26:18.267 --> 00:26:19.333
BEFORE WE WRAP?


00:26:19.433 --> 00:26:20.399
DALE: YEAH.


00:26:20.499 --> 00:26:23.566
I WOULD JUST SAY THIS:
THAT IT'S SO IMPORTANT

00:26:23.666 --> 00:26:28.133
THAT YOU DO NOT RECEIVE
ANY DISHONOR ON YOUR IDENTITY.

00:26:28.233 --> 00:26:32.166
IT'S THE PLAN OF THE DEVIL TO
HIJACK YOUR IMPACT

00:26:32.266 --> 00:26:33.467
TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE.


00:26:33.567 --> 00:26:36.733
AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT THIS
WAY: IF YOU DON'T BREAK THROUGH,

00:26:36.833 --> 00:26:38.699
THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE
THAT WILL NEVER MAKE IT

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.099
BECAUSE
THEY'LL NEVER LOOK AT YOU

00:26:40.199 --> 00:26:44.700
AND SAY, I CAN MAKE IT
BECAUSE DALE MADE IT.

00:26:44.800 --> 00:26:46.166
I CAN MAKE IT.


00:26:46.266 --> 00:26:46.999
FILL IN THE NAME.


00:26:47.099 --> 00:26:48.900
JOHN.


00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:49.833
REBECCA.


00:26:49.933 --> 00:26:51.233
FILL IN THE NAMES.


00:26:51.333 --> 00:26:52.567
BECAUSE THEY
PRESSED THROUGH,

00:26:52.667 --> 00:26:54.466
I CAN PRESS THROUGH.


00:26:54.566 --> 00:26:56.200
IT'S SO IMPORTANT.


00:26:56.300 --> 00:26:59.933
JOSHUA PRESSED THROUGH BECAUSE
HE SAW MOSES PRESS THROUGH.

00:27:00.033 --> 00:27:01.767
AND I WANT TO
ENCOURAGE YOU,

00:27:01.867 --> 00:27:03.433
WHEN YOU FULFILL
YOUR DESTINY,

00:27:03.533 --> 00:27:06.200
YOU OPEN IT UP
FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

00:27:06.300 --> 00:27:07.466
AND LIVE A LIFE OF HONOR.


00:27:07.566 --> 00:27:10.466
THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT,
BUT START SOWING IT,

00:27:10.566 --> 00:27:12.733
AND WATCH THE
HARVEST COMING IN.

00:27:12.833 --> 00:27:13.833
REBECCA:
THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

00:27:13.933 --> 00:27:15.366
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE, DALE.

00:27:15.466 --> 00:27:18.200
DALE: I'VE ENJOYED
OUR TIME TOGETHER.

00:27:18.300 --> 00:27:20.233
AND I JUST SPEAK A
BLESSING OVER PEOPLE.

00:27:20.333 --> 00:27:22.700
AND I WANT TO SAY THIS:
EVERYBODY UNDER THE SOUND

00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:27.566
OF MY VOICE, THERE'S SOMETHING
VERY SPECIAL ABOUT YOU.

00:27:27.666 --> 00:27:28.933
REBECCA: WELL,
I LOVE THAT.

00:27:29.033 --> 00:27:32.200
WELL, IF YOU'VE REALIZED
TODAY THAT YOU ARE SPECIAL,

00:27:32.300 --> 00:27:34.299
I WANT YOU TO
COMMENT THAT DOWN BELOW.

00:27:34.399 --> 00:27:36.333
DALE, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

00:27:36.433 --> 00:27:39.600
AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO
<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST</i> .