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This program is made
possible by the giving
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of the God called Partners
of Renner Ministries.
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Well, here we are just
above the floodplain, down
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below Mount Ararat
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and the Durupinar Site, which is the site
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of the ruins of Noah's Ark.
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And I'm here with Denise Renner.
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I'm here with Mr. Andrew
Jones, Joseph and Heather Z.
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We're so glad you guys came all the way
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from the United States.
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Oh, thanks. Thank you for having us - Mr. Paul
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Renner and Joel Renner.
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And today we're gonna wrap up
our series called Discovering
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Noah's Ark.
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But I want you to be sure
to order the entire series
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because hey guys, this
is an amazing series.
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It is - Have you all enjoyed being here?
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Oh, so much. So much.
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I mean, what a thrill.
It felt like an adventure
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movie.
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Why would this series be a blessing to our viewers to own?
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'cause it'll open their eyes
to what this is really about.
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What's really happening. People have an image in their mind,
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but this actually puts framework to it.
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It takes 'em from a keyhole idea
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to opening up a whole panoramic to them.
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I I, it's gonna help people.
Denise, what do you think?
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I think it's gonna help
them see so many things.
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But one thing that they're
gonna see the mercy of God.
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The mercy of God. Amen. Paul,
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I think we named these
programs the wrong name.
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It should be called Home Group
on Tour. Home Group on tour.
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I know this is our Home
roup on Tour - Mobile,
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That it's really discovering
Noah's Ark, of course,
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Discovering Noah's Ark
Home Group on Tour. Tour.
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How about you, Mr. Renner?
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I think the value of these programs is we're taking people
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places where they'll never go.
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Sadly, I wish everyone
could come see these people.
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Oh, I wish so too. Because
it is just so eye-opening
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and all the logic, everything we've seen.
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It's true. The area around the ark, it's,
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it's not just the ark in the boat itself.
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It's everything around
it. It all makes sense.
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And even the area that we're in right now.
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Yes. - The Kingdom of Uratu.
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Yes. That's where we
are. It's all amazing.
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You know, Andrew, you give professional tours
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of the Durupinar Ark Site all the time.
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Why do you believe these programs will be
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a blessing to people?
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Well, just like, as your son said,
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not everyone can come out here to see it.
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And with your audience
in Russia and America
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and around the world,
people can see the sites
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for themselves and be blessed.
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Well, I wanna say thank you to you
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because you really have
become a friend to me.
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And you really are
probably the greatest ark
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researcher still alive.
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And you've given 27 years of your life,
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nearly 30 years to this site.
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And I wanna say thank you to you,
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Denise, and I pray for you.
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We want to support you and we
wanna really be your friend.
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Thank you. - But in addition to the 10 part series,
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there's also the new book which is called, Fallen Angels,
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Giants, Monsters, and The World Before The Flood.
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Look at the cover of that book: shows Noah, shows
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monsters and giants.
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I have to tell you guys,
I've written a lot of books.
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I think I had more fun writing
this book than any book I
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have ever written.
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And it has 300 pieces of art, illustrations,
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graphics, and the back of the
book is loaded with footnotes.
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Do you know how I judge a book?
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I judge it by the footnotes. That's
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Amazing.
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When I go to buy a book, I look
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to see if there are footnotes,
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because I wanna see is
it really documented?
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Because that means serious
research went into the book.
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Well, this book is loaded with footnotes. My friends,
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it's all here. And the illustrations, the art,
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it just makes it come alive.
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Now Joseph, you read
this from cover to cover
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and you have wrote part of the forward.
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So tell me what you think about this book.
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Well, I don't think
it's gonna be surpassed.
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And the amount of research,
the in depth insights
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that people are gonna see,
it's visually stunning
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and the information is so helpful.
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I think people are gonna be really touched by,
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the reason I like it too is
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because it's not a theory for you.
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You've walked so many
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of these territories
you talk about in here
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and it's so in depth.
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You know, Rick, you've lived
what you're talking about.
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And I think it's gonna help people tremendously.
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Well, you know, one thing
that I really covered in this
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book were the Giants, the Nephilim
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that existed before the flood.
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Right? And for many people
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It's no longer debatable for me. No,
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If you just look at the writings
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of the early church
fathers and Jewish elders
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and sages, they all wrote
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about a nefarious moment when
fallen angels right begin
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to copulate with women.
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The women became pregnant,
gave birth to giants.
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Genesis talks about it. The
book of Enoch talks about it.
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And the book of Enoch is
not a book of the Bible,
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but it is serious
commentary that is ancient.
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And Peter quotes from
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And I use part of Enoch in this, not
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because it's Bible, right, but
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because it's ancient in it's
serious biblical commentary.
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Alright, Joseph - I mean Andrew -
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you read this book, what'd you think?
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What I liked is that
you took your experience.
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'cause you were here last year
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and then you put it into a book format
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with all this extra research.
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I mean, look how thick that book is.
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I can't wait to see
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what people will say when
they read it. Thank you. Yeah.
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And Denise, what do
you think of this book?
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Well, Rick, I just appreciate
all your study and research
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because there's not very many people that do that.
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True. - And you took so much time and energy
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and prayer to put this book together
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and I really appreciate it.
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Well, what do you think, Joel?
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Well, we had a lot of people read this
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book before. A lot of people,
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Yes we did.
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And I can say that majority of people,
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almost everyone said it was riveting.
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It was easy to read. They
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They were just totally immersed in the subject and
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what they're reading.
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And they really enjoyed it. You know, Troy Brewer
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in his endorsement said - Buckle your seatbelt.
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Get ready. Get a seat to the show
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because you're about to
see something spectacular.
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That's great. I'm so thrilled with
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that. Paul, what do you think?
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Now? I have only read segments of Thanks
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A lot, Paul. Oh,
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I will read the whole book.
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You're doing better than me. Okay. But
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When, when you write
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I do. And you were really
excited about this.
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Now there's another thing you're also really excited about
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the your interpretive version.
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You're real excited about that I
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Am the Renner Interpretive Version,
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which is gonna be coming out soon.
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But it just seems
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that every time you
unfolded something new,
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you got really excited
while you were writing the
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book. And that was fun to watch.
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Well, you know, I believe
that when you write, you have
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to write defensively because
there's always debunkers
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and people argue with every point.
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And the Bible says in Peter
that we're to be ready
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to answer every man
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who asks us why we
believe what we believe.
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And so my goal when I
write is not just to write
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what I believe, but to
defend it so well that anyone
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who reads it will come
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I wanna make sure it's
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And that's why my books are so big.
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Well, if people love the
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Bible, they're gonna love this book.
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Well, thank you.
They're gonna love
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Well let's talk about episode No.1. - Okay.
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We all met in the airport in
Istanbul, except for Paul.
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And Paul. How did you
and William get here?
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Okay so we flew from Moscow to Yerevan -
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and what is Yerevan?
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The capital Armenia.
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And then from there we
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of Georgia Tbilisi.
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And then from there we drove to the border
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of Georgia and Turkey.
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And then from there we drove another four
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and a half hours to get
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So on our way here, we
got to see beautiful,
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beautiful landscapes:
the whole mountain range.
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It was wonderful. And I
like to visit new places,
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but I do remember my experience from the 1st time we
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landed here when we were driving by the Lake Van.
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Oh, Lake Van is beautiful. - Oh, Lake Van is huge.
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That's where the Tigers River begins - right in that area.
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Exactly. So when we were driving by Van thinking this is
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where Eden was, this is huge.
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And of course mama, you
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So when I think of the Garden
of Eden, the first thing
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that I think of is, you know,
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you know someone's background garden - green.
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Green beans, cucumbers, and,
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and we've all been to
wonderful botanical gardens
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and they're, and they're large,
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but you know, they're
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And we were driving by the
Lake Van with the valleys
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and the mountains and the snow caps,
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all of a sudden I realized
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Eden was huge.
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Well actually the Bible does not call it the Garden of Eden.
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That's what we call it.
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It says that the Lord made
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And Eden was a vast territory,
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which really later was identified as the Uratu Kingdom.
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that are identified in Eden.
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And the garden was somewhere in Eden,
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somewhere right around here.
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The size of Texas. It was
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So that, that was my first expansion
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of my worldview right there.
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Alright. Joel, you flew
in from Riga. I did.
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And Joseph and Heather, you came in from the United States.
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We certainly did. And Denise
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and I came with the rest
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So we all converged here.
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And what an experience we have had.
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Hasn't it been wonderful?
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Amazing. - And I was excited
for all of you to see in
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that first episode that as we
drove from the airport in van
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to where we are, you drove
through those lava fields.
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Oh, huge. And there was a time
when those lava fields were
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filled with PKK.
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Who is that, Andrew?
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Well, they are a terrorist organization
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that has been fighting
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area of the world.
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And so they have kidnapped foreigners,
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killed police people here and
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that were kidnapped for how long?
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the early nineties, kidnapped for
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21 days.
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21 days until they escaped.
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And so for that reason,
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embassy warnings not to come
to this part of Turkey travel,
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travel, travel advisories.
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But here we are because
we're willing to go anywhere.
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That's right. And it's a lot better now.
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Yeah, it's still a little
primitive out here.
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I mean, we're staying in the best hotel.
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It's clean, but it's pretty primitive.
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But that's just where you are. Okay.
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Then we went to the River Euphrates,
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actually the headwaters
of the Euphrates River.
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Joseph, what did you think about that?
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Well, it was getting a snapshot of the book of Revelation.
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Things prophesied, things talked about, and whether
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or not we're right in the middle of that or beginning that
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or that's to come.
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It was fascinating to look at that water
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and consider that there are
angels trapped under there.
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That's what the Bible says in Revelation 9.
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The angels having been bound in the Euphrates.
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They're there. I know.
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But in Revelation 9, they're released
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and they're gonna kill and they slay.
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They're gonna kill so
many parts of humanity.
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One third, one third.
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And Revelation 9 says
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that when they are released, suddenly
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you could hear the sound of
an army 200 million strong.
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Amazing. Is that amazing?
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What really amazed me was you're seeing this amazing river
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coming downstream through a rock again.
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You can see it through another
rock. And there it is again.
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Yes. And it's amazing river.
And it's supposed to dry up.
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It's gonna dry up. That's in Revelation 16. And as
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we know it is starting to
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dry up.
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It's starting to dry up, which
is a fulfillment of prophecy.
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Well, it's beginning to dry
up in Iraq where it flows down
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to the Persian Gulf.
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And that's also connected to this
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because as it's drying
up, things are reappearing
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that nobody has ever seen.
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It's amazing - for example, tombs, structures. Wow.
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They believe they have
found the tomb of Gilgamesh.
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I mean wow. Gilgamesh.
That is amazing. Wow.
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So all these things that people
thought were just legends,
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they're being verified
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that they were real life events places.
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Yeah. But what else did you think about
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the headwaters of the Euphrates?
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Well it felt not only prophetic,
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but as Joel just mentioned, with it drying up, whether
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that's now or later,
there's a prophetic sign in
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that God is speaking no
different than the ark
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and all the things that we've seen.
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God is speaking through these signs.
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And the question is, are we
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listening? That's right. Oh, that's
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good.
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Then we went to the lava beds just
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below Mount Ararat. Andrew,
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yhey are enormous.
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Somewhere like a hundred feet high.
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And it covers this whole southern area
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of the mountain plus the north side.
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And and when you see
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all that lava, of course Lava's hot
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and the Mount Ararat is a
straddle, straddle volcano.
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Volcano. Yes. You really see
why it would be impossible
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that if the ark had landed
on top of Mount Ararat,
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it would've never survived all of that.
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It would've buried or
destroyed a long time ago.
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So people have been
crawling around the top
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of Ararat looking for it.
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They're not gonna find it.
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Yeah. - Plus now guys, climate change, the top
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of the mountain by August is nearly bare
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and no one has ever seen the
ark and mountain climbers
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are now coming from all over the world.
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Yeah. In fact, I think we met a group
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that just parked. Yeah, we just did.
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Went up the mountain, right?
Yeah. On this trip.
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And they're climbing
it from every direction.
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Nobody has seen the ark and
now with satellite imagery
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and nobody has ever seen the ark.
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And that's because it's not on Mount Ararat.
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It is in the mountains of Ararat.
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Just 17 miles on the other
side of the valley. Amazing.
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Yeah. - Alright. Then the
next day we all got in the bus
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and we went to the visitor center.
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Paul, do you enjoy the visitor center?
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I do. I like drinking tea at the Visitor's Center.
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It's protected from the
wind, from the rain.
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That's also very important. - The hail - the hail
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'cause we got a little bit of hail
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and it's kind of a place to regroup,
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prepare the equipment, of course.
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Look at the research that has
been done, watch the videos
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that were filmed by Andrew and his team.
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Excellent. Which were
excellent. Excellent.
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Thank - You. And it's a place of fellowship
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because when you're out on the ark
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and the other sites, you,
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you're kind of looking at everything.
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But once you come back to the
Visitor Center, you sit down
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and you begin to reflect on
everything that you've seen.
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Alright. Then we got our walking sticks
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and we started down the hill.
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All right. Denise, what did you think about that
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walk down to the ark?
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Interesting. - Mama, you did a great job.
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Thank you. You did amazing.
You did great. You did.
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Thank you. Paul was my, well,
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he couldn't be my right hand man.
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'cause that was my stick.
He was my left hand man.
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But he never left my side.
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And we made it through all
those difficult passages. She
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Kept wanting to sing, climb every
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mountain from the Sound of Music.
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Yeah. But hey, it's a pretty
rigorous climb down the hill.
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It's rather rigorous. I
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Think I saw her jump a stream.
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Yeah. Oh, come on. Jump
a stream. Do that too.
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I saw that one. I saw it.
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Heather, what did you think about
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that big gully we had to cross.
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Oh my goodness. It
was just amazing having
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to skip over rocks and jump
over that little ravine area
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and water gushing coming
down. It was amazing.
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And all the mud
In the mud.
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Oh, mud. This is the mud
flow we're talking about. Yes.
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And Angie, you explained
all about mu mud flows are
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to us, but it was
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Rigorous.
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Yeah.
Alright.
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When we finally got
across the gully way, way,
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way at the bottom area
of the ark, we looked up
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and I looked over to the Z Joseph
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and Heather to see what they thought.
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And Heather was crying.
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Yeah. - Was Heather, why were you crying?
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Because when you came around the ridge
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and my eyes met that massive structure.
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I bursted into tears
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because the realization
of this is Noah's Ark.
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It truly is. And feeling the Lord there.
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And then not only that, it's
just having a revelation of
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where this is where we come from.
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And if you know where we come
from, you know the confidence
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of the Lord, I belong.
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You've planned me for a purpose.
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We all have a purpose to be
here. And he could have he.
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He could have. We could have not, but,
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Well, you know when you
come up on that lower end
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of the ark, that's when the
enormity of it really hits me.
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It's true. It is so
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massive. And you can
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see what it is when you're standing
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there.
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Yeah. For the business center,
it looks small. It does.
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Or smaller. It does. You get down there,
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Oh, that's what's the same
Angle and the width of it.
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Yes. Yeah. It's enormous.
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And think of the assignment
that God gave to Noah.
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Think of collecting the
material, the manpower. Wow.
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It's,
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it's just mind boggling.
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Joel. - For me, I realize the enormity
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of the ark actually from a distance
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because it's big on a mountain.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's true. - I mean, compared to a mountain,
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it's big and it is just amazing.
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And everything around it is gorgeous,
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but it is definitely
dirty when you get on it.
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Oh yeah. We, we all ruined our shoes.
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That's true. Did anybody
throw your shoes away yet?
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Not yet. Not yet. But it's
a badge of honor. Alright.
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Paul, what did you think
when you came up on
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the bottom end of the ark?
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I wanna talk a little bit about Andrew.
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Alright, let's do, - Every time we got out of the bus,
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the first thing he'd do is
go to the edge of the cliff
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and take a photo and, and
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He's only been working
here nearly 30 years.
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That's true. So how are you
here? A hundred days a year?
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Six months probably. So more than a, so
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that's 180 days a year you're here.
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And Andrew's love
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and respect for the sight was obvious every single time.
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Wow.
And it's my third time here.
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It doesn't lose anything. Nothing.
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It gains you gain a respect
for it more and more.
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Alright. When we came around
the bottom side of the ark,
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up the right side, then we saw
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where you could see those timbers.
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Alright, I want to ask you,
could you see the timbers?
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You can see the timbers.
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Joseph, could you see them? Absolutely.
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I could see Heather. Could you see them?
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It was apparent. Paul, Joel.
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You can see timbers,
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you can see wood posts
coming outta the ground.
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You can see where rivets were placed.
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You can imagine the center of the ark
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where the upper deck would be.
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You can see the bow,
you can see the stern.
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And as the mud falls away,
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the side walls of the become more
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Exposed ark
Get larger. Yeah.
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And it's exactly 300
Egyptian cubits long.
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It's exactly the dimensions of the ark.
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I asked somebody, did we really know
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for sure it's Noah's Ark.
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And the answer was, well I
don't know any other ship 300
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cubits long in the mountains of Ararat.
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So you decide if it's Noah's Ark.
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But hey, when we were
finished walking from the bow
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to the stern of the ship,
and that is quite a walk.
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Yes. And the way the ship is
laying there, I mean it's a,
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it's a serious climb to go
from the bottom to the top.
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It's, and when you get to the top,
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I mean it is sharp just
like a ship. It's evident.
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And - I'm so thankful
that on our last trip here,
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we had coffee in somebody's yard
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and I found a patio in
his yard constructed
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of stones from an ancient Byzantine
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or Armenian church that had collapsed due to an earthquake.
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And among those stones in
his patio was what seems
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to be the earliest known
depiction of the ark.
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And it exactly shows what's laying
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on the side of that mountain.
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Amazing. Alright. Then we
got in that tractor. Oh yes.
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And we went to the Place of the Landing.
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But first we hit what? Hail hailstorm.
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How'd you guys like that hailstorm? It felt like a massage.
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A massage. Biblical. That's good.
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I've never been in hail. It was like,
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It was, it was aggressive
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hail. I kept thinking to myself,
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I can't believe we brought the Z's on this trip.
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And we're sitting in a
tractor being pounded by hail.
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Authentic experience. Authentic. It was authentic, organic.
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I was under the umbrella trying to help protect the camera
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with Paul and William.
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You were doing it. William,
you were doing it. Got
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The weather up here.
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Just changes like that.
It's got a personality.
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And then all of a sudden
it was beautiful again.
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These were back in the tractor
going to the top of the hill
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to the Place of the Landing.
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And when you get up there, you see
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where the ark first landed.
503
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It's a huge indentation.
It looks like a meadow.
504
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It is filled with flowers
in over 4,000 years
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because it's a mudslide.
506
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The ark moved on down to where it is now.
507
00:20:30.570 --> 00:20:33.870
But I like what Andrew said.
The Bible says the ark rested.
508
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Rested. It looks like a place
of rest. So peaceful up there.
509
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It's like a giant cradle.
510
00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:40.530
And then from there we
got back in the tractor
511
00:20:40.530 --> 00:20:41.790
and where'd we go next Paul?
512
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We went to The
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altar stone.
514
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The altar stone. Which you love it. So tell us about
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it.
516
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It is my favorite place
517
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because when we come to the ark, we always think of the ark.
518
00:20:51.340 --> 00:20:55.510
We're going to see the ark and
we're going to study the ark.
519
00:20:55.510 --> 00:20:59.560
And so the altar stone is not
really thought about much when
520
00:20:59.560 --> 00:21:01.300
you think of coming to this place,
521
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Or you think that it was
just made of little stones
522
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or probably didn't survive.
523
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But when you go up to the altar stone
524
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and you realize that this is the place
525
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where Noah made his first sacrifice,
526
00:21:12.010 --> 00:21:14.380
which was probably the most expensive
527
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sacrifice in human history.
528
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He made it there. There, God
received his sacrifice: there,
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God promised no more will I send a
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flood to destroy the earth:
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there is the first time that he saw the rainbow.
532
00:21:28.570 --> 00:21:30.130
And we gotta see a rainbow on this trip,
533
00:21:30.130 --> 00:21:32.500
which was really cool.
534
00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:36.280
It's just an amazing place
because it means so much
535
00:21:36.280 --> 00:21:38.725
and it's, it is peaceful up there.
536
00:21:38.725 --> 00:21:40.570
I don't know how to explain that,
537
00:21:40.570 --> 00:21:42.280
but it is more peaceful up there.
538
00:21:42.280 --> 00:21:45.885
It is. - And I, I could just
stay there and stay there.
539
00:21:45.885 --> 00:21:47.470
Well, I enjoyed standing there with you
540
00:21:47.470 --> 00:21:49.570
because as you were standing
and explaining it more
541
00:21:49.570 --> 00:21:51.970
and more, it really was special.
542
00:21:51.970 --> 00:21:53.525
There was a stillness in the air wreck.
543
00:21:53.525 --> 00:21:55.690
I sense the presence of God at that stone.
544
00:21:55.690 --> 00:21:58.150
Amen. - Yeah. And if that really is the stone
545
00:21:58.150 --> 00:22:01.150
that Noah used that would
make that the first altar
546
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after the flood.
547
00:22:02.230 --> 00:22:03.970
Wow. And is it true?
548
00:22:03.970 --> 00:22:06.490
You can see where it's
been cut with human chisels
549
00:22:06.490 --> 00:22:07.510
or instrumentation.
550
00:22:07.510 --> 00:22:10.090
You can see where the blood
channel was. It's so obvious.
551
00:22:10.090 --> 00:22:12.195
Denise, what'd you feel
when you were there?
552
00:22:12.195 --> 00:22:15.550
Well, for me, I got emotional
553
00:22:15.550 --> 00:22:17.830
because the presence, you were crying.
554
00:22:17.830 --> 00:22:20.980
I was crying. The
presence of God was there.
555
00:22:20.980 --> 00:22:24.940
And I was thinking about
a sacrifice and worship.
556
00:22:24.940 --> 00:22:29.320
And that worship, real
worship is real surrender.
557
00:22:29.320 --> 00:22:32.260
And when we really surrender to God,
558
00:22:32.260 --> 00:22:35.050
that's when his presence comes.
559
00:22:35.050 --> 00:22:38.980
And, and not only his
presence came at that moment,
560
00:22:38.980 --> 00:22:43.570
but amazing instruction and encouragement
561
00:22:43.570 --> 00:22:45.250
and direction.
562
00:22:45.250 --> 00:22:46.960
And actually that's what
happens when you bring
563
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God a sacrifice.
564
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:50.590
I say that when you bring a sacrifice,
565
00:22:50.590 --> 00:22:54.790
God's presence is attracted
like metal to a magnet.
566
00:22:54.790 --> 00:22:56.920
It just brings the presence of God.
567
00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:58.925
But after that, wait, I
wanna pick up the, all right.
568
00:22:58.925 --> 00:23:00.945
So rainbow. All talk about the rainbow.
569
00:23:00.945 --> 00:23:03.250
That's alright. Rainbow.
Because I'm gonna preach about
570
00:23:03.250 --> 00:23:05.590
this on Sunday, so I'm getting ready.
571
00:23:05.590 --> 00:23:08.620
Right. All right. So the rainbow. I discovered for myself
572
00:23:08.620 --> 00:23:11.300
that the rainbow has several meetings
573
00:23:11.300 --> 00:23:14.470
First of all, when Noah was there
574
00:23:14.470 --> 00:23:15.970
and the appearance of the rainbow
575
00:23:15.970 --> 00:23:18.280
and God speaking to him would been,
576
00:23:18.280 --> 00:23:19.810
would have been an acknowledgement
577
00:23:19.810 --> 00:23:21.670
that he fulfilled his task.
578
00:23:21.670 --> 00:23:23.140
It would've been a reward.
579
00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:27.040
I receive what you've done for
me. I receive this sacrifice.
580
00:23:27.040 --> 00:23:30.670
It would've been so rewarding
for Noah to see that he,
581
00:23:30.670 --> 00:23:33.670
he did it and, and God recognized it.
582
00:23:33.670 --> 00:23:36.130
Then if it wasn't for the rainbow,
583
00:23:37.150 --> 00:23:38.950
people would be terrified of rain
584
00:23:40.060 --> 00:23:41.590
After that event. Oh, my
585
00:23:41.590 --> 00:23:43.185
First time people ever saw rain.
586
00:23:43.185 --> 00:23:45.470
Oh my. And what if it
starts to rain again?
587
00:23:45.470 --> 00:23:47.390
What does that mean? Question?
588
00:23:47.390 --> 00:23:50.090
And for us, every time it
rains, rain means wonderful.
589
00:23:50.090 --> 00:23:52.670
Rain is a blessing. Rain means
that the crops will grow.
590
00:23:52.670 --> 00:23:53.690
Rain means people have fresh water.
591
00:23:53.690 --> 00:23:54.710
But to those rain could have
592
00:23:54.710 --> 00:23:55.710
Been terrifying.
593
00:23:55.710 --> 00:23:57.980
Could have been. And so
the rain was always a sign
594
00:23:57.980 --> 00:23:59.720
that you don't need to
be afraid of the rain.
595
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.560
Rain is now not a judgment.
Rain is now a blessing.
596
00:24:03.560 --> 00:24:06.140
And of course when you read Genesis there,
597
00:24:07.340 --> 00:24:10.100
the rainbow is also a sign, a remembrance
598
00:24:10.100 --> 00:24:12.020
for God. And so that was
599
00:24:12.020 --> 00:24:13.020
amazing.
600
00:24:13.020 --> 00:24:14.300
Wow. Well we're almost outta time,
601
00:24:14.300 --> 00:24:15.770
but I, we have to cover one more thing.
602
00:24:15.770 --> 00:24:18.470
Then we went to the Village of 8,
603
00:24:18.470 --> 00:24:21.050
and we saw those massive drogue stones.
604
00:24:21.050 --> 00:24:22.370
Alright. It was your first time
605
00:24:22.370 --> 00:24:23.480
to see them. What did you think?
606
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:25.250
Oh, it Multiple things,
607
00:24:25.250 --> 00:24:27.890
but right out the gate, you
realize how large they are.
608
00:24:27.890 --> 00:24:30.440
That part of it is so deep in
the ground when you're looking
609
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.680
at it, but then you recognize
that it was like a trail
610
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.530
through the the valley where
the ark must have gone.
611
00:24:36.530 --> 00:24:39.440
Pointing that out is profound.
I mean, it tells the story.
612
00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.690
You know what I think about
when I see those drogue stones
613
00:24:41.690 --> 00:24:43.640
because they balanced the ship.
614
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:46.220
Yes. I always think about
how we're in Christ,
615
00:24:46.220 --> 00:24:49.040
but we need the word of
God hanging from both sides
616
00:24:49.040 --> 00:24:52.100
of our life to balance
us as we sail our life.
617
00:24:52.100 --> 00:24:54.290
Amazing. And then we went to the ruins
618
00:24:54.290 --> 00:24:56.000
of an ancient Byzantine
619
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or Armenian church, which
620
00:24:58.790 --> 00:25:02.750
reputedly was built on the very sight of Noah's house.
621
00:25:02.750 --> 00:25:06.020
And that's where those events in Genesis 9 took
622
00:25:06.020 --> 00:25:10.190
place: when Ham did something to his father so bad
623
00:25:10.190 --> 00:25:12.920
that when Noah woke up, he
cursed the lineage of Ham.
624
00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:16.010
Wow. All of those events occurred right there.
625
00:25:16.010 --> 00:25:19.550
The guys were out of time.
This has been so much fun.
626
00:25:19.550 --> 00:25:22.460
Alright, are we glad we
came? Absolute. Yes. Glad.
627
00:25:22.460 --> 00:25:24.085
Absolutely. A hundred percent amazing
628
00:25:24.085 --> 00:25:25.085
Partners,
629
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we wanna say thank you for helping us come here
630
00:25:27.320 --> 00:25:28.970
and we're here not just to have fun,
631
00:25:28.970 --> 00:25:33.920
we are here because we want you to discover Noah's Ark.
632
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:35.780
This is about you.
633
00:25:35.780 --> 00:25:37.640
And so we wanna say
thank you for joining us
634
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:39.350
and I wanna say thank you to you, Denise.
635
00:25:39.350 --> 00:25:40.460
Thank you. You've been a real trooper.
636
00:25:40.460 --> 00:25:41.510
Well, thank you Rich
Andrew,
637
00:25:41.510 --> 00:25:43.190
you've been great as always.
638
00:25:43.190 --> 00:25:46.580
Z's, Joseph and Heather, I'm thrilled you've been along.
639
00:25:46.580 --> 00:25:48.500
Thank you. Paul and Joel,
640
00:25:48.500 --> 00:25:50.870
we always love it when
you're along with us
641
00:25:50.870 --> 00:25:53.900
and to the entire team,
I wanna say thank you.
642
00:25:53.900 --> 00:25:55.880
And mainly we wanna say thank you, Lord.
643
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.610
We asked that the weather
would work with us
644
00:25:58.610 --> 00:26:01.610
and the weather worked with
us and we were able to do it.
645
00:26:01.610 --> 00:26:04.730
No slipping. No tripping. No
falling. Thank you God. Hip.
646
00:26:04.730 --> 00:26:09.620
Hooray. This has been great.
Thank you for being with us.
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Pray this prayer with me right now: Lord,
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I repent of my sin and receive you as my Savior
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and Lord. Wash away my sin
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and make me completely new.
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I thank you that my sin is removed
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I faithfully promise that
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