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This program is made
possible by the giving
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of the God called partners
of Renner Ministries.
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I am so glad that we are
here at the Visitor Center.
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Yes, sir. Come on, Denise. Amazing.
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And Heather and Joel and Paul - Noah's Ark.
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So Andrew, this is the visitor
center that was opened when?
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1987. - 1987.
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This is the official Durupinar Noah's Ark Visitor Center.
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And I wanna say thank you to you
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for your role in restoring this place
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because it had really
fallen into dilapidation.
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But inside this visitor center,
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there are amazing photographs.
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Would you please show us?
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Yeah, let's go on the tour.
Let's go. Come on Denise.
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This is gonna be great.
Okay Zs, are you ready?
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Oh, we're coming. We're ready. Paul. Joel,
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Thrilled to be here. Let's go in.
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This is exciting. - Welcome
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to the Noah Ark Visitor Center.
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We are so glad to be here.
Let's start over here.
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Well look at these. Yes.
We can look at these
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photographs on the wall here.
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These photos are just amazing
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because they are so historically connected to this site.
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So Andrew, let's start
right here. What is this?
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This was the first photograph
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published in the World Press.
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That's the Hyatt Turkish
magazine from 1959.
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And what is the photograph of?
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You can see what circled
there is the boat formation.
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This is the very 1st photograph the world saw of the boat.
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And who found that object?
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Captain Durupinar who we see in the photographs over here
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and an older Captain Durupinar here.
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So this is him at the end of his life? - Yes.
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And who is this with him? And this is Dr.
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Sulie Barak Tutuan, who's a retired Turkish geologist,
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Professor of Geology.
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And he believes this is Noah's Ark.
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And so this is Colonel Durupinar
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at the end of his life. - Yeah.
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Captain Durupinar, yes. - And he really became part of the
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legend of this site.
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Yeah. They named the site after him.
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And what is this?
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So a year after he
had discovered the site,
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Turkish American expedition came out.
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And these is one of the, one
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of the rare photographs of the site from
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It's amazing.
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And you know, when I look at this site,
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I can see very clearly these mountains.
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And in the epic of Gilgamesh, which is one
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of the earliest flood
stories ever discovered,
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it describes one of the
first villages being built
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after the flood being built
between a saddleback mountain.
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And that is exactly what we have here.
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And they have ancient remains up there. They
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haven't excavated yet.
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Right here? - Yes, right here. Right there.
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Wow. And who is this?
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This is Ron Wyatt. So he
was the one who actually,
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after Durupinar, did the most promotion
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and the most research
on the site in the 1980s
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and 90's before he passed away.
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And what he really did was heroic.
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Yeah. He, he put his life
on the line many times in
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his research out here.
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And tell me about this.
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So this is again, right
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after the 1960 Expedition,
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a Turkish magazine published photographs.
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And this is their version of
Life Magazine called, Hayat.
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And what is this?
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This is the original photograph that Captain Durupinar
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while studying the maps of this area
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and the aerial photographs, he discovered
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that boat formation
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1959.
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And why were they, why were they taking aerial
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photographs?
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They were mapping out sections of Turkey.
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So this is during the Cold War
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and Turkey bordered the
Soviet Union at the time.
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And so they were mapping out this area.
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And when they were then looking at the
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maps, they found this object.
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Exactly. September 11, a Friday, I think it was 1959.
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He discovered that's,
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You know, if you look
at this, it's very clear
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that is not an a natural formation.
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No. That doesn't match anything in this area. Exactly.
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And what is amazing to
me is if you look at it,
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it has the bow of a ship.
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It has the stern of a ship.
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It is exactly shaped like ancient ships
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from the ancient world.
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A lot of people now say
that the ark was a big box
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or a big barge, but in fact it was not.
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And after the flood, that's the way
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that all ships were developed
in the ancient world.
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This is the bigger version. Right.
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A - the biggest version.
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And we're gonna be crawling on top of that
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in the next program.
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But tell us more about this.
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Well here we just have different photos of Captain Durupinar
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and they're during his Army service.
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And then above it we have a famous photo by Ara Guler.
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He was a famous Turkish photographer,
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mainly photographed life in Istanbul.
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But the Turkish military hired him
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to document this site from a low
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altitude with a little plane.
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So he came out here in 1960 and 1961
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and flew a little military plane,
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a couple thousand feet off the ground
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and got these really good photographs.
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So these were high altitude photographs,
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but this is a low altitude
one. So you can see the detail
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From 1960.
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Yeah. Just look at the shape
of that. It's a ship. Yeah.
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And it's all, you can say how, how is
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that natural? - Just looking
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at it.
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And, and my understanding is
that these images were sent
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to Dr. Brandon Berger.
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Yes.
Who was a scientist
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and a educator in the
United States. A specialist.
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Yes. Ohio State University. Yep.
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And he examined these
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and he is the man that
examined all the sites in Cuba
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during the missile crisis.
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And was so good at what
he did that he identified
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where all the missile sites were.
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And that is the same man
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who looked at this. And what did he say?
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He said that this is not
a natural object in, in his
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professional opinion,
it's a manmade object.
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He said it was a ship.
Yeah. Wow. I have the quote.
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He said it was a ship in
the Mountains of Ararat.
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Now
What is this?
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That's such a beautiful
photograph. We wanna know
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What that is.
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It's one of my drone photographs
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during the golden hour
towards the evening.
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And you can see the mountains
of Ararat, which we are in,
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where the site is located,
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just across the valley is this volcano.
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So this is the Greater Ararat. This is Lesser Ararat.
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And where we are right now
in this visitor center is way
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over here looking across the
correct floodplain at the
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greater and lesser Ararat.
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Yep. - Thank you. Well, let's keep going.
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We have more to look at. Oh yeah,
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there's more at this place.
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Let's come right over here.
So this is amazing to me.
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So this is Captain Durupinar, correct?
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Yes. This is one of his younger photos. Of course it was.
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You mentioned he was the one
who discovered this site,
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just doing his job one weekday.
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And he saw the boat formation.
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This is the photograph he saw.
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It was a closeup of it circled
from the Hyatt magazine.
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And again, you can see this perfectly,
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this line going down with a boat shape.
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And in the mountains, - In the mountains it doesn't match
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like everything else is all this, you know, natural rubble.
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But here's this ship shape
standing out right there.
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And this again is the,
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This is Ara Guler's photo from 60, again,
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low level, that's high
level altitude, low level.
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What's what what I think is
really interesting about this
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photograph is you can see how defined
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that edge is of the boat.
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Now as you look today, it's kind of worn down from the sheep
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and tourists and locals
and you know, weathering.
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But it was that straight edge
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that definitely shows
it's not a natural object.
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Well let's keep going
because there's more to see.
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Thank you so much for
restoring this visitor center.
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So tell me what this is.
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So this panel display panel here,
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we focus on the geophysical surveys.
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So that's a way you can
peer under the ground
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without excavating.
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So they use different techniques like ERT,
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which is electrical: or they use GPR, which you use as radar
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to look under the ground
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and give you images of
what's below the surface.
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Now I really want our
camera guys to come over here
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so they can see what
we're gonna be showing
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because this is so very important.
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So, but I wanna begin
with this. What is this?
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In the middle of the ship?
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Yeah. So this is the
famous rock outcrop.
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A lot of critics will point to that
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and say, ah, this is why you
have a ship shape right here is
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because the mud coming down
the mountainside hit this
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obstruction, this rock,
and formed a a ship shape.
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The problem is from our scans, it shows
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that this rock is actually
floating in the boat.
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It's not part of the bedrock.
The mud did not go around it.
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In fact, if mud went around
that rock, you would have
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to switch the shape of the Ark.
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This part would've been rounded. Yeah.
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And that would've been sharp
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Based on fluid dynamics as the mud
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or liquid, like water goes
around an obstruction.
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The pointed in is always downhill.
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And this object is the opposite.
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Now what is amazing to me is
that when the Ark came moving
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through the valley below, it turned
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and it just sailed right up
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and just sat on the mountains here.
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And this is the front of the ship.
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It's exactly the way that it would've gone
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up the mountain and landed.
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Yeah, it's, I don't wanna
ask you something else.
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What is this?
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This is actually a printout
of the original GPR
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that Ron White and
David Fazel did in 1985.
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And what it's showing with
these lines, it's kind
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of like a cake slice
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or a bread slice where
you're looking at the layers
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below the surface and are
showing these periodic patterns
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of reflections, possibly
representing the walls
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or support beams to a ship.
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It's amazing periodic they are.
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Yeah. And, and the
scientists who studied this,
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it was on TV at local television in
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New Hampshire and the United States.
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He declared that you do
not see this in nature.
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He said the the patterns are too periodic.
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You know, the evidence
is nearly irrefutable,
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but there's more to see.
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What is this big square here
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and how is it connected to this?
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Well, so this image here
is the GPR, which is radar
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that we did back in 2019
with the science channel.
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And what these? So the
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Science Channel came here.
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Yeah, they came out here in 2019.
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And it just happened to work
out when we had hired an
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independent team of
scientists to study the boat
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who are not even, some of
them were not even Christians,
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they were just hired to do a job.
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And then they took the
data back to America
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and the American archeologist studied it
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and he found this pattern of right angles.
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He said if he was gonna do an excavation,
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this is the spot he would do it because that is not natural.
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So this shows that there are rooms,
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or there are compartments inside this structure.
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7 meters down are about 21 feet or so.
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And you would never find this
in nature, just right angles.
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These are rooms, that's what,
or these are compartments.
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That's what you were saying.
All right. But wait a minute.
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What is this red square
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and what does it have
to do with what's below?
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So the same trip we were doing the radar
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and as a science channel was
filming the radar technician.
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He spotted this on his screen.
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And we have video as they found this,
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nine feet down about three
meters, these linear patterns.
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You can see the lines there.
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And again, as a scientist, he was saying
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that when you see something
like this, you expect it
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to be a manmade object.
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There's something down
there forming these lines
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that you wouldn't find in nature.
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And in fact, some of these scans even show multiple decks.
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Yes. And we, and we have some new data from this 2019 trip
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that's showing a tunnel,
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currently a tunnel which could
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possibly, which runs from here, correct.
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Yeah. From the end to
the middle of the boat.
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That's the best preserved part.
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That could possibly be the central hallway.
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And the specialist who has
looked at it says that it's,
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it's vacated, it's still empty.
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Yeah, exactly. She said
you could probably, you know,
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a shorter person could walk
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through it still. It's not full of mud.
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Wow. That is amazing. That's amazing.
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So what do you gotta think about
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what you're hearing? What's
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The crawl tomorrow in
the, this is astonishing.
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It may, it, it, it really
brings you to the conclusion
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that this is Noah's Ark.
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Paul, what do you think about this?
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I'm excited to be here
and I like doing all this
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and experiencing, especially with people
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that have never seen it before.
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I hope everybody else gets to
feel what we're feeling. What
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About you Joel?
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Andrew? I have a question.
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Now we're, we're in a mud
flow, is that correct?
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Correct. - So did the mud preserve the Ark?
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It possibly was the agent
that helped preserve it
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because it buried the Ark.
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So what you're seeing today
is the outline, the shape,
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and what we're walking on
could be the collapsed decks.
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'cause the, the roof is
probably gone already
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and we're maybe even
part of the first deck.
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And so what we're walking
on now would be this, like
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what the mud had covered.
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But this data is showing
that the actual pieces,
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like the big pieces of the evidence,
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they're deeper in the art.
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Well, for those of us who love the
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Bible, love the word of God.
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I'm so glad that this is preserved
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because it proves what our
precious Lord God really says.
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Denise, what do you think about this?
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Well, I have two things.
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What would a boat be doing in a mountain?
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And yes, unless it was Noah's Ark.
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And the other thing that
really gets me is everything
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around the ark changes,
but the ark doesn't change.
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It's, it just stays the same -
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Is that a spiritual lesson in
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there?
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Yeah, there might be an adjustment.
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You wording that? How about you, Heather?
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I think of the family.
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I think of what Noah did
and that he trusted God
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and it saved his family.
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And I just, it's wonderful.
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I wanna point out one other
thing we haven't talked about.
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If you look at this illustration,
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it shows there was a
structure on top of the Ark,
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like an atrium.
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And if you look at the Ark today,
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and we're gonna be going there,
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there's a big hump right
in the middle of this.
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And archeologists
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and geologists have estimated
that it's the ruin of
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that top structure in the very middle.
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And that's why there's
a hump on the very top
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of the Ark. Is that correct?
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Yeah, it's very possible
that what as the Ark collapsed
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or got decayed, the section on
the top, all those, you know,
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boards and timbers collapsed down
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and just form a natural
hump as the dirt covered it.
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Well there's more to see. So
let's go around the corner.
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There's more. Is this
interesting? Very, very,
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Very interesting.
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All right, so Andrew, tell
us about this. Ah, here we go.
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So this is one of our drone photos.
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You know, people in the past did not have access to a drone,
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but when Bomgardner was out here trying
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to do some aerial photographs,
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'cause you know how from the air you see
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much more of the object.
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It sets a big object.
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Well, there they use the
balloon and it caught fire
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and caused such a ruckus with the local
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military. A hot air balloon.
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Yes. It had a little hot air balloon.
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It had a camera hanging below it.
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And as it was in either in the parking lot
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or in the air, it caught fire.
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The military shut them down
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'cause of the, the ruckus it created.
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Of course now we can fly
a little drone out there
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and get all these amazing
photographs and videos.
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But it basically shows the ship shape.
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And again, we're talking
about the ship shape.
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You can, especially seeing in the black
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and white photograph that's
sitting here in the mountains.
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Just like what else could be.
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And again, we have a very sharp bow.
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We have a very rounded stern.
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This is exactly what you
would find in an ancient ship.
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And what is this, Andrew?
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It's just showing that using
the biblical measurements,
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this site matches exactly
what the Bible says.
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How long is this formation? - It's 515 feet long.
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And that is - 300 Egyptian cubits,
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300 Egyptian cubits, which
is exactly what we are.
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That's exactly it in Genesis 6. And what is this?
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Well, so one of Ron Wyatt's tours in the early 90's,
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his tour was lucky.
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They actually found this
along the top upper end
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of the boat, near the pointed end.
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What is it?
And they had it analyzed
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and it showed it to be an
alloy of fossilized rivet.
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And so if you look at ships,
I know this is much way,
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much later, but like the Viking barrel ships of England,
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the famous one being the Sutton Hoo; that ship had lots
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of rivets, all the, the wood decayed away.
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And when they excavated it out,
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all they had left were the rivets marking.
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And we were fighting
rivets here on Noahs Ark
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that are alloys of metals
that you don't expect
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to see on ancient ships.
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Wow. And of course skeptics say
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that such things didn't exist at Noah Ark.
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Exactly. Here we have it. But
hey, God gave him technology
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to build this whole ship.
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Well we know from Genesis,
I forget exactly where,
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but it talks about Tubal-cain
being a worker of metal
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and he made alloys, it mentions the metals he worked on.
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One of them was an alloy.
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And so before the flood, they had technology to do that.
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Well, I want to explain to
our guests, Denise, the Z's,
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because they've never been here.
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Paul and Joel have been
here with me before.
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Paul's been here multiple times.
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What we're gonna be doing
in the next program.
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We're gonna be coming down the side of the hill
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because the Visitor Center is up here.
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And we're gonna be coming
all the way down past this
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big gully.
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And I've gotta prepare you guys,
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you're probably gonna ruin your shoes
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because it's really
muddy. Is it true, Andrew?
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Yes. Especially after the
storm in the last couple days.
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And not only is it muddy, we
need to hold onto each other
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because it's pretty treacherous.
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But when you get down to the bottom,
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we're gonna come right down to
the bottom stern of the ship.
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And that's when you really begin
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to understand the immense size
of what you're looking at.
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It is just enormous.
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Then we're gonna walk right
up this side of the ship
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and we're gonna pass these,
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which are protruding ribs of the ship.
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And you see these all up and down.
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You see them here all up and down.
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We're gonna walk all
the way up to the top,
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then we're gonna turn, we're
gonna walk all the way.
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And they're on both sides down this side,
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those protruding timbers on both sides.
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And on this side we have a
few surprises we're gonna be
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showing you that most
people have never seen.
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Okay? In fact, even Andrew hasn't seen it
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for a very long time.
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Okay. - And then we're
gonna crawl on top of the ship
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and we're gonna really
discuss this object.
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How long it is, does it really match the
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biblical proportions?
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We're gonna talk more about the scans
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and the ground penetrating radar.
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But I think for now we
should set at the table
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and open our Bible for a moment.
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Okay? Before we go out
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and get a pan panoramic view of the ship.
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So let's go to the table.
Are you guys enjoying this?
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Yes - Very, very much.
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All right, Denise, come have
a seat. Andrew, you sit by me.
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Can somebody bring us
some tea? Yeah. Alright.
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I want to talk about Genesis 8.
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And in Genesis 8:4, the Bible says,
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and the ark rested in the 7th month on the 17th day
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of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat;
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it wasn't one mountain, it was a whole mountain range.
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And as we've seen
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what today is called Mount Ararat maybe didn't even
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exist at that time - correct?
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Yeah - Because it's a straddle volcano.
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Plus the lava is all lava
that's formed above water.
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It's not pillow, lava.
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So this is all post flood.
Exactly. That is amazing.
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But these are the mountains of Ararat,
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and this particular mountain is called Mount Judi.
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And what and what does that mean?
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Well, I don't exactly know.
They have different names.
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Whether it means high altitude
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or the actual local name is
Mushar, which means doomsday
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or Judgment Mountain. Oh
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Wow.
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About that. And
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where the Ark actually landed
was higher up the mountain.
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And over the years it's come down the side
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of mountain, just right
behind us right there.
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And the top of the mountain is called, The Place
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of the Landing.
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These ancient names tell us a lot. Wow.
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The place of the landing.
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And there's a Curtis village,
which we're gonna be driving
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through, that Curtis Village
has been there so long for
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so many thousands of years
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that it was described
more than 2000 years ago
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by ancient riders who
described it remarkable.
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And it's these Kurds who really first noticed this object
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after a big earthquake in 1948.
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And it's these Kurds who
alerted everyone to the fact
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that on the top of this
mountain, near the place
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of the landing is a giant
stone that is an altar
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that has a blood channel
cut right across the top.
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And it's where Noah offered
his first sacrifices
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to God when they came off the ark.
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Oh, amazing. Amazing.
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Paul, you've been there.
What do you think of it?
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I think that's the most exciting part of this whole trip
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because when you're at the
altar stone, you realize
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that this is where Noah first saw rainbow.
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You realize where this is where God promised,
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no longer will he cover
the world with a flood.
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You realize where this is
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where everything started all over again.
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And looking out from here onto Mount Ararat
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and into the field, you
think about how this is
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where life started again.
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Wow. Well I wanna say
again how exciting it is
509
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that you have taken the time
to come here with Denise
510
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and me and our sons.
511
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Z's we're so glad you're here.
512
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And Andrew, we're so thankful for you.
513
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But I think we need to go to Genesis 6.
514
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Okay. - Because in Genesis 6,
515
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we find God's instructions to Noah.
516
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And it says in verse 14, Make thee an ark of gopher wood.
517
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What in the world is gopher wood?
518
00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:16.080
Hmm. - People have been a arguing about that for hundreds
519
00:20:16.080 --> 00:20:18.240
of years because nobody knows what it is.
520
00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.770
And now we know - it's laminated wood which means God gave
521
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to Noah a technique of lamination,
522
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Wood that is watertight, water repellent,
523
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and in the wood that they've
taken from this particular
524
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location and they've looked
at it, it's multiple pieces
525
00:20:35.940 --> 00:20:37.170
of wood all put together.
526
00:20:37.170 --> 00:20:40.830
It's laminated wood. That's
what gopher wood is. Wow.
527
00:20:40.830 --> 00:20:42.630
And so it was a technology which God
528
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gave to Noah for the ark.
529
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But then it says - and
you will pitch it within
530
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and without - there's the lamination.
531
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Then it says in verse 15,
532
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and this is the fashion
which thou shalt make it
533
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of: the length of the ark shall be 300 cubits.
534
00:20:55.750 --> 00:20:59.170
And you said that's an Egyptian cubit. How do we know that?
535
00:20:59.170 --> 00:21:02.590
Well it says in the book of
Acts that Moses was educated
536
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in Egypt and being one of
the princes of Egypt, he went
537
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through their educational system.
538
00:21:07.810 --> 00:21:08.920
And during this time period,
539
00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:10.840
the Royal Egyptian qubit was like
540
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how the metric system is today.
541
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It was the worldwide system everyone used, even Mesopotamia.
542
00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:17.560
They used the Royal Egyptian qubit
543
00:21:17.560 --> 00:21:20.140
during the middle bronze
age, late bronze age period.
544
00:21:20.140 --> 00:21:22.960
So you're telling me that when Moses recorded this event,
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he used what he he'd been taught in Egypt.
546
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Yeah. And which was the
standard for that time
547
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Period in the world
History.
548
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So this is the Egyptian cubit. Exactly.
549
00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.320
So you will make it 300
cubits, the breadth of it,
550
00:21:32.320 --> 00:21:35.200
50 cubits, the height of it, 30 cubits,
551
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a window shut make to the ark.
552
00:21:37.390 --> 00:21:40.210
And in a cubit shut finish it above.
553
00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:43.360
And the door of the ark shut
set in the side thereof.
554
00:21:43.360 --> 00:21:45.880
And it's interesting that
on these recent scans,
555
00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.460
it seems like they might
have even found an entrance
556
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where the original entrance was to
557
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This. Yes.
558
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With lower 2nd and 3rd story: shout thou make
559
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It.
560
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Which we've even seen that in the
561
00:21:56.323 --> 00:21:57.190
scans, these different
layers. The, and you can see
562
00:21:57.190 --> 00:21:59.020
Ground, you can see those levels.
563
00:21:59.020 --> 00:22:02.920
There are 3 levels inside that ship shaped object.
564
00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.920
Wow. - And so the evidence
is almost irrefutable
565
00:22:07.990 --> 00:22:09.910
that this really is Noah's Ark.
566
00:22:09.910 --> 00:22:10.910
What do you think, Denise?
567
00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:14.080
I think it's amazing.
568
00:22:14.080 --> 00:22:18.040
And I was thinking about the pitch
569
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that held it together
570
00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.840
and I was thinking about how amazing that was
571
00:22:22.840 --> 00:22:26.200
because everything that the ark endured,
572
00:22:27.190 --> 00:22:31.360
there was no leakage or you know, they would've gone under.
573
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And I think about how God is so perfect
574
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because our salvation's so perfect.
575
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We're not going under,
he's holding us together.
576
00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.700
That's right. He held that boat together.
577
00:22:42.700 --> 00:22:45.730
He's holding us together by his power.
578
00:22:45.730 --> 00:22:48.190
I love that. - And by his spirit. It's so good.
579
00:22:48.190 --> 00:22:51.640
And that he's gonna bring
us to the finish. Yes.
580
00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:54.280
He brought the, he brought
the Ark to the finish.
581
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Nobody drowned, it didn't leak.
582
00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.020
And he's bringing us to a finish.
583
00:22:59.020 --> 00:23:01.420
And it's that pitch that was
put on the outside of it, all
584
00:23:01.420 --> 00:23:04.000
that lamination, which
has held it together
585
00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.590
for more than 4,000 years
586
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And still holding it together.
587
00:23:08.020 --> 00:23:10.330
Joel, what do you think? I
have a question. We've been
588
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hearing a lot about the Uratu kingdom.
589
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Yes. And what is that?
590
00:23:14.710 --> 00:23:16.870
Well, you wanna answer that question.
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They were an ancient kingdom
that was based near Van,
592
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actually in the city of Van Turkey today.
593
00:23:22.390 --> 00:23:24.220
So about two hours south of here.
594
00:23:24.220 --> 00:23:26.650
But their territory included
way up in this area.
595
00:23:26.650 --> 00:23:29.740
We have two or three of their
castles actually in this area.
596
00:23:29.740 --> 00:23:30.670
Actually one of our
597
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programs, the last program
we're doing in this city.
598
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We'll be going to one. We're
gonna be going there. That's
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Awesome.
600
00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:36.130
So they were an ancient kingdom
601
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that basically inhabited this area of modern day Turkey. -
602
00:23:39.940 --> 00:23:44.770
And the word Uratu eventually morphed into the word Ararat.
603
00:23:44.770 --> 00:23:47.300
That's the word Araray comes from.
604
00:23:47.300 --> 00:23:48.710
Paul, what do you think about all this?
605
00:23:48.710 --> 00:23:52.280
We're looking at the ark
right now. Out the window.
606
00:23:52.280 --> 00:23:53.930
That window. I wanna go
there. Wait a minute.
607
00:23:53.930 --> 00:23:56.000
Joseph and Heather haven't
been out the door yet.
608
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.070
Haven't been, but we're looking at it.
609
00:23:58.070 --> 00:24:01.250
You're about, you just, just hold on. We're gonna try. Last,
610
00:24:01.250 --> 00:24:03.980
Last time we were here, you did a series
611
00:24:03.980 --> 00:24:07.450
of programs called How to Ride
on the Waves of Destruction.
612
00:24:07.450 --> 00:24:08.900
That's right.
613
00:24:08.900 --> 00:24:11.000
And mom, that's what you
were talking about right now,
614
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the ark is also a symbol
of God's protection.
615
00:24:13.730 --> 00:24:17.930
Amen. Joseph? I think a man
or woman with a revelation.
616
00:24:17.930 --> 00:24:20.150
This is what Heather was
saying to me earlier.
617
00:24:20.150 --> 00:24:22.340
They're not at the mercy
of a culture gone mad.
618
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And here we see a man who
stood up in his generation,
619
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stood against all the odds, obeyed God
620
00:24:28.340 --> 00:24:30.860
and came through a storm,
came through everything.
621
00:24:30.860 --> 00:24:33.170
I think it's exactly what
Pastor Paul was saying.
622
00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:35.870
It's an example of God's
provision, his protection
623
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and going through whether or
not Jesus returns tomorrow
624
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:42.980
or if he returns outside our lifetime.
625
00:24:42.980 --> 00:24:44.870
I believe no matter what we face next,
626
00:24:44.870 --> 00:24:48.680
we can take great comfort in
knowing what Noah went through
627
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.170
that we can do the same. Heather.
628
00:24:51.170 --> 00:24:53.690
Well that's what I was saying to Joseph.
629
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His obedience. I just, I'm grateful for his obedience.
630
00:24:56.990 --> 00:24:59.240
'cause he could have easily not been obedient.
631
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.400
Right. - Which wouldn't have saved his family,
632
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.500
which ultimately brought us here today.
633
00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:06.950
And we're still talking about it. It's still an amazing
634
00:25:06.950 --> 00:25:08.420
example. - And think about his family.
635
00:25:08.420 --> 00:25:10.730
Yeah. - Because they had
to be willing to participate.
636
00:25:10.730 --> 00:25:12.955
Yes, they did.
Mrs. Noah could have said
637
00:25:12.955 --> 00:25:13.788
Yes. Oh,
638
00:25:13.788 --> 00:25:14.585
I'm not in favor of this.
639
00:25:14.585 --> 00:25:16.760
Yes. Well, Rick, I'm thinking of your viewers right now.
640
00:25:16.760 --> 00:25:18.770
People that are watching this right now
641
00:25:18.770 --> 00:25:20.510
and they're thinking the world is changing.
642
00:25:20.510 --> 00:25:22.190
Things are difficult. What's happening?
643
00:25:22.190 --> 00:25:25.040
I am telling you there's
raw spiritual horsepower
644
00:25:25.040 --> 00:25:26.870
available for them to go through.
645
00:25:26.870 --> 00:25:29.630
I was thinking because there was only 8 of them
646
00:25:29.630 --> 00:25:31.730
and there's millions around them.
647
00:25:31.730 --> 00:25:33.740
But he was the only one
648
00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:35.690
that was the preacher of righteousness.
649
00:25:35.690 --> 00:25:38.025
Come on. That's right. That's
right. Come on, Denise. Yes.
650
00:25:38.025 --> 00:25:39.110
He was a preacher of
651
00:25:39.110 --> 00:25:40.110
Righteousness.
652
00:25:40.110 --> 00:25:42.030
That's in 2 Peter 2.
653
00:25:42.030 --> 00:25:42.863
And that's what we're supposed, come on
654
00:25:42.863 --> 00:25:43.490
Denise supposed to do.
655
00:25:43.490 --> 00:25:45.110
Like you're talking about Joseph, he
656
00:25:45.110 --> 00:25:47.240
Was the minority and
stood against it all.
657
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:50.510
Yes. There's things around
us happening - come on -
658
00:25:50.510 --> 00:25:54.170
but we have the power of God to take us right through
659
00:25:54.170 --> 00:25:56.840
and we can be preachers of righteousness.
660
00:25:56.840 --> 00:26:01.040
Wow. And in Matthew 24:37, Jesus said,
661
00:26:01.040 --> 00:26:03.470
But as the days of Noah were
662
00:26:03.470 --> 00:26:05.660
so shall also the coming of the son of man be.
663
00:26:05.660 --> 00:26:07.910
So whatever was going on
664
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that cause God to send
665
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.320
the flood, is gonna happen again at the end of the age.
666
00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:14.810
Yeah. And we know from our studies of scripture
667
00:26:14.810 --> 00:26:15.810
Yes.
668
00:26:15.810 --> 00:26:18.620
That in the days before the flood, fallen angels begin
669
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to commingle with women.
670
00:26:19.940 --> 00:26:22.250
Right. And I understand
that violates all kinds
671
00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:23.870
of laws of science.
672
00:26:23.870 --> 00:26:25.190
But the Bible says it happened.
673
00:26:25.190 --> 00:26:28.910
And in some way those angels found the ability
674
00:26:28.910 --> 00:26:31.310
to violate boundaries.
675
00:26:31.310 --> 00:26:35.270
And they co-habitated with women who gave birth to giants.
676
00:26:35.270 --> 00:26:38.270
Right. And there's a lot of
insinuation, ancient documents
677
00:26:38.270 --> 00:26:41.990
that the giants then committed
bestiality with animals
678
00:26:41.990 --> 00:26:43.770
who gave birth to monsters.
679
00:26:43.770 --> 00:26:45.540
We can't say that emphatically,
680
00:26:45.540 --> 00:26:48.810
but there's really a lot of ancient documents that say that.
681
00:26:48.810 --> 00:26:50.040
And it became so bad
682
00:26:50.040 --> 00:26:53.400
that God knew the only way
he could clean this mess
683
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:54.400
Wow.
684
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.450
Was to use Noah. He and
his family were righteous.
685
00:26:57.450 --> 00:27:00.120
They were unblemished
by all this activity.
686
00:27:00.120 --> 00:27:03.420
And he would start all
over again. Yes. Amazing.
687
00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:05.070
And Rick, you know, it shows the heart
688
00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:09.750
of God when it says in Genesis - He repented, he repented
689
00:27:09.750 --> 00:27:13.620
that he made man, and that
he had to make this judgment.
690
00:27:13.620 --> 00:27:16.050
Well actually we talk about judgment,
691
00:27:16.050 --> 00:27:19.260
but the word that is used describes their pruning operation.
692
00:27:19.260 --> 00:27:22.260
Oh my - God. Was trying to prune things. Oh my goodness.
693
00:27:22.260 --> 00:27:25.530
And God is still in the business of pruning evil. Yes he is.
694
00:27:25.530 --> 00:27:28.620
Amen. I think it's time for us to go out
695
00:27:28.620 --> 00:27:31.410
and take a view of the ark. Oh boy. Here we go.
696
00:27:31.410 --> 00:27:32.520
Okay,
Let's do it.
697
00:27:32.520 --> 00:27:35.820
I can't wait to, I can't
wait. I can't wait. Come on
698
00:27:35.820 --> 00:27:36.820
Guys,
699
00:27:36.820 --> 00:27:40.005
that is a panoramic view
of the ark. Oh, at ship
700
00:27:40.005 --> 00:27:41.005
Shape right there.
701
00:27:41.005 --> 00:27:43.620
What do you think of that?
Wow. That's remarkable.
702
00:27:43.620 --> 00:27:44.620
Thank you, God.
703
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.920
If you've never received Jesus as your Savior
704
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.300
and Lord, now is the time for
you to experience a new life
705
00:27:54.300 --> 00:27:56.460
Jesus has to give you.
706
00:27:56.460 --> 00:28:00.510
Pray this prayer with me right now; Lord,
707
00:28:00.510 --> 00:28:04.530
I repented my sin and receive you as my savior
708
00:28:04.530 --> 00:28:07.530
and Lord. Wash away my sin
709
00:28:07.530 --> 00:28:10.530
and make me completely new.
710
00:28:10.530 --> 00:28:14.400
I thank you that my sin is removed
711
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:19.020
and Satan no longer has any
right to lay claim on me.
712
00:28:19.890 --> 00:28:23.850
I faithfully promise that
I will serve you as my Lord
713
00:28:23.850 --> 00:28:26.430
for the rest of my life.
714
00:28:26.430 --> 00:28:27.263
Amen.