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DR. DANIEL AMEN: IT'S
PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE

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THAT I'VE BEEN MILEY CYRUS'
DOCTOR FOR 13 YEARS,

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14 YEARS NOW.


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I LOVE HER SO MUCH.


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JUSTIN BIEBER'S DOCTOR.


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WHOLE.


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THEIR COMMON THOUGHT WHEN
THEY FIRST COME TO SEE ME,

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I AM NOT ENOUGH.


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WHAT'S THE OUTCOME OF
BELIEVING I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH?

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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: YOU DON'T
LIVE UP TO YOUR DESTINY.

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DR. AMEN: IF YOU DON'T
DISCIPLINE YOUR MIND,

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IT WILL HURT YOU.




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REBECCA LAMB WEISS:
ALL RIGHT.

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WELL, WELCOME BACK
TO THE PODCAST.

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I'M WITH SOMEONE THAT I
HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR,

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GUYS, AND I CANNOT WAIT
FOR YOU TO HEAR THIS.

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YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION
BECAUSE WE HAVE DR. AMEN HERE.

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THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.


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DR. AMEN: WOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR HAVING ME

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AND SPREADING THE WORD
ABOUT BRAIN HEALTH.

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REBECCA: I THINK IT'S
SO IMPORTANT

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BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE ARE
TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH,

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AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT THAT MORE THAN EVER,

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BUT I FEEL LIKE
THERE'S A LOT OF,

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WITH THAT MOVEMENT, IT'S
GOING IN A DIRECTION

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THAT I THINK CAN BE MORE
HURTFUL TO PEOPLE THAN HELPFUL,

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SO I THINK YOU'RE BRINGING
A PERSPECTIVE THAT'S SO HELPFUL.

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SO CAN YOU TALK
ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE,

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HOW MENTAL HEALTH
VERSUS BRAIN HEALTH?

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DR. AMEN: SO MORE
MONEY FOR MENTAL HEALTH,

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THE WAY IT'S
CURRENTLY PRACTICED,

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IS GOING TO PERPETUATE
THE PROBLEM.

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WHEN YOU THINK OF
IT AS MENTAL HEALTH,

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WHAT HAPPENS TODAY IS
SYMPTOMS EQUALS DIAGNOSIS

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EQUALS TREATMENT.


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SO IF YOU GO TELL YOUR
DOCTOR YOU'RE DEPRESSED,

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HE OR SHE WILL GIVE YOU A
DIAGNOSIS WITH THE SAME NAME

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AS YOUR SYMPTOM,
YOU'RE DEPRESSED,

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AND THEN GIVE YOU
AN ANTIDEPRESSANT,

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TYPICALLY AN SSRI, WHICH
IN LARGESCALE STUDIES

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WORKED NO BETTER
THAN PLACEBO.

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OR YOU GO, I'M ANXIOUS.


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AND SO HE'LL GIVE YOU
OR SHE WILL GIVE YOU

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AN ANXIETY DISORDER DIAGNOSIS
AND OFTEN A BENZODIAZEPINE

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LIKE VALIUM OR XANAX,
WHICH IS ADDICTIVE

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AND INCREASES YOUR
RISK OF DEMENTIA.

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ONCE YOU START THOSE
LITTLE THINGS,

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PEOPLE DON'T STOP THEM.


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OR YOU GO, WELL, I
CAN'T CONCENTRATE,

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AND THEY'LL GO,
OH, WELL,

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YOU HAVE ATTENTION DEFICIT
HYPERACTIVITY DISORDER,

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AND A STIMULANT,


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WHICH CAN HELP PEOPLE
WHO REALLY HAVE IT,

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BUT CAN COMPLETELY
UNBALANCE PEOPLE WHO DON'T.

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OR YOU TELL THEM, OH, I'M
HAVING PROBLEMS WITH SUBSTANCES,

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SO THEY GIVE YOU A
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER DIAGNOSIS

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AND SEND YOU TO
A 12-STEP PROGRAM,

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WHICH WORKS
ABOUT 5% OF THE TIME.

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OR THEY'LL SEND YOU TO A
DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAM

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THAT'S $30,000 TO
$60,000 A MONTH.

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OR, MY FAVORITE WAY TO
DESCRIBE THIS INSANITY,

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IS IF YOU HAVE
TEMPORAL PROBLEMS.

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IF YOU EXPLODE
INTERMITTENTLY,

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THERE'S A
DIAGNOSTIC CATEGORY

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CALLED INTERMITTENT
EXPLOSIVE DISORDER.

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IED.


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IT'S LIKE
IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICES.

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SORT OF IRONIC.


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AND THEN IT'S LIKE,
WELL, WHAT DO YOU DO?

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WELL, ANGER MANAGEMENT
CLASSES, MEDICATION.

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THIS IS INSANE.


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WITH NO BIOLOGICAL DATA.


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AND SO WHEN WE THINK
OF IT AS MENTAL HEALTH,

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WE HAVE THIS WAY WE
DIAGNOSE PEOPLE,

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AND THEN IT'S MEDICATION.


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AND SINCE PROZAC WAS
RELEASED IN 1988,

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DEPRESSION HAS
GONE UP 400%.

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WE ARE MORE DEPRESSED


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THAN BEFORE
THIS MEDICINE WAS RELEASED.

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SO THAT'S ODD.


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THE OUTCOMES IN PSYCHIATRY
ARE NO BETTER THAN THEY WERE

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IN THE 1950S
WHEN I WAS BORN.

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AND LAST YEAR, THERE WERE 340
MILLION PRESCRIPTIONS WRITTEN

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FOR ANTIDEPRESSANTS.


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AND SO MORE MONEY FOR
MENTAL HEALTH IS MORE OF

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THIS INSANITY OF
MAKING DIAGNOSES

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IN 10-MINUTE
OFFICE VISITS,

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AND 25% OF THE
AMERICAN POPULATION

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IS ON PHARMACEUTICALS.


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AND IT'S LIKE, NO, NO.
NO.

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WHEN YOU THINK OF IT AS
BRAIN HEALTH, WELL, ONE,

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YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE
ORGAN YOU'RE TREATING,

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WHICH IS WHAT WE
DO AT AMEN CLINICS.

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YOU HAVE TO LOOK.


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YOU HAVE TO THINK OF IT.


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LIKE JUSTIN BIEBER WAS
ONE OF MY PATIENTS,

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AND THAT'S
PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

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I WAS IN HIS
DOCUMENTARY SEASONS.

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AND HE CAME
INTO MY OFFICE,

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AND AFTER A
COUPLE OF MONTHS,

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HE CAME IN AND HE SAID,
I THINK I GET

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WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO TELL ME.

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MY BRAIN IS AN ORGAN LIKE
MY HEART IS AN ORGAN.

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IF YOU'D TOLD ME I
HAD HEART PROBLEMS,

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I'D DO
EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

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SO I THINK I'M GOING
TO DO WHAT YOU SAY.

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AND THEN HE GOT BETTER.


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I HAVE HIS BRAIN
NINE MONTHS APART.

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TERRIBLE.


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MUCH BETTER.


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WHEN YOU THINK OF IT AS
BRAIN HEALTH, WELL, THEN,

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YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T
DRINK BECAUSE ALCOHOL IS

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POISONOUS TO THE BRAIN.


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WHEN YOU THINK OF
IT AS BRAIN HEALTH,

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YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE
SMOKING POT

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BECAUSE MY STUDIES
AND OTHER PEOPLES' STUDIES

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IS IT DECREASES
ACTIVITY IN THE BRAIN.

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WHEN YOU THINK OF
IT AS BRAIN HEALTH,

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YOU HAVE TO GO
TO BED EARLY,

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YOU HAVE TO REALLY START
THINKING ABOUT EATING BETTER

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BECAUSE YOU'RE
EATING FOR YOUR BRAIN.

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EVERYTHING CHANGES.


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AND MORE MONEY FOR
BRAIN HEALTH WILL CREATE

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A REVOLUTION OF GOODNESS
RATHER THAN DEPENDENCE.

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REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

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AND SO REVOLUTIONARY
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IN SOCIETY

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HOW IT'S BEEN
THIS TURN TOWARDS MENTAL HEALTH,

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AND THERE'S NO
DISCUSSION OF PROACTIVE THINGS

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YOU CAN DO TO HELP
HEAL THE ORGAN OF THE BRAIN.

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AND THERE'S SO MUCH
THAT WE CAN DO.

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AND THAT'S WHAT YOU TALK
ABOUT IN THIS BOOK,

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<i>CHANGE YOUR
BRAIN EVERY DAY</i> .

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YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY STUCK
WITH THE BRAIN THAT YOU HAVE.

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IT CAN HEAL.


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DR. AMEN:
WELL, I LOVE THAT.

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I LOVE THAT SO MUCH.


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IT'S HOW I HIT
HOME RUNS IS EVERY DAY,

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YOU ARE MAKING YOUR BRAIN
BETTER BY WHAT YOU DO.

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OR YOU ARE MAKING YOUR
BRAIN WORSE BY WHAT YOU DO.

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AND I'VE WRITTEN 42 BOOKS.


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AND THEN I'VE REALIZED,
IT'S LIKE, WELL,

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WHERE DO PEOPLE START.


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AND SO I DECIDED TO WRITE
MY GREATEST HITS BOOK,

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WHICH IS<i>CHANGE YOUR BRAIN
EVERY DAY: 366 SHORT ESSAYS</i>

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ON THE MOST
IMPORTANT THINGS I'VE EVER SAID

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IN SNACKABLE,
ADD DELIVERY.

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IT'S LIKE 3 MINUTES, READ
THE PAGE AND DO THE EXERCISE.

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AND YOU END UP
REALLY UNDERSTANDING

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TO LOVE YOUR BRAIN,


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TO AVOID THINGS
THAT HURT YOUR BRAIN,

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AND TO DO THINGS EVERY
DAY THAT HELP YOUR BRAIN.

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AND I'VE DONE OVER A
QUARTER OF A MILLION BRAIN SCANS

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OVER THE
LAST 35 YEARS,

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AND I MAKE BAD BRAINS BETTER
AND I MAKE GOOD BRAINS GREAT.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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AND YOU KNOW BECAUSE
YOU'VE DONE THIS SO MANY TIMES,

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LIKE YOU SAID, YOU
KNOW WHAT THESE PEOPLE

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COULD BE DOING
PROACTIVELY.

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THIS IS WHY THIS IS SUCH
AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE

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BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS
THAT PEOPLE CAN BE DOING

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EVERY SINGLE DAY TO CHANGE
THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIFE

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TO HELP HEAL THE MIND.


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AND I LOVE THAT.


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THE OTHER THING THAT I
THINK IS SO IMPORTANT

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IS WE KNOW AS BELIEVERS,
BECAUSE YOU'RE A BELIEVER,

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IS HOW IMPORTANT OUR BELIEFS
AND HOW WE VIEW OURSELVES,

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OUR IDENTITY,
HOW IT AFFECTS OUR WHOLE LIFE,

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AND THE BIBLE
TALKS ABOUT THAT,

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AS A MAN THINKS IN HIS
HEART, SO SHALL HE BE.

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THE THING WITH
MENTAL HEALTH,

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AND I SEE THIS BECAUSE
I AM ON TIKTOK,

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I AM ON THE
SOCIAL MEDIA APPS,

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SO I SEE WHAT MY
GENERATION, MILLENNIAL,

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GEN Z, AND ALL THESE
OTHERS ARE POSTING,

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AND WITH THE MENTAL
HEALTH THING,

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THERE'S SO MUCH OF AN
IDENTITY, A LABEL.

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OH, I HAVE ADHD.


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OH, I HAVE ADD.


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OH, I HAVE DEPRESSION.


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AND THEY ALMOST TAKE IT
AS LIKE APART OF THEIR IDENTITY.

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HOW DAMAGING IS THAT?


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DR. AMEN: WELL,
I DON'T LIKE IT.

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AND I ACTUALLY DON'T LIKE,
IN 12-STEP PROGRAMS

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THAT THEY IDENTIFY WITH
BEING AN ALCOHOLIC.

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I WANT YOU TO IDENTIFY
WITH BEING A CHILD OF GOD.

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I WANT YOU TO IDENTIFY AS
SOMEONE WHO LOVES YOUR BRAIN,

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WHO'S HEALTHY.


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WHEN YOU IDENTIFY
AS A HEALTHY PERSON,

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IT'S WHAT WOULD A HEALTHY
PERSON DO IN THIS SITUATION?

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AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE VERSES
IN THE BIBLE IS ROMANS 12:2:

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BE TRANSFORMED BY THE
RENEWING OF YOUR MIND.

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EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.


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THEY DON'T KNOW THE
SECOND PART: BE TRANSFORMED

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BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MIND
AND THEN YOU CAN TEST IT

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TO SEE IF IT FITS GOD'S GOOD,
PERFECT, AND PLEASING WILL.

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AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS
I TEACH MY PATIENTS

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IS TO
KILL THE CANT'S.

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THEY'LL AUTOMATIC
NEGATIVE THOUGHTS

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THAT STEAL THEIR HAPPINESS.


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WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY OF
UNDISCIPLINED THINKERS.

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SO THINK OF THE BRAIN AS
THE HARDWARE OF YOUR SOUL.

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WELL, YOU STILL
HAVE TO PROGRAM IT.

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RIGHT.


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AND YOU PROGRAM IT WITH
THE THOUGHTS YOU ALLOW

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INTO YOUR HEAD.


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AND JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE
A THOUGHT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

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WHETHER OR NOT
IT'S TRUE,

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WHETHER OR NOT
IT'S USEFUL.

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AND I LOVE IT.


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SO I HAVE THIS THOUGHT.


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DOES THIS THOUGHT FIT
GOD'S GOOD, PERFECT,

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AND PLEASING WILL?


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AND SO MANY PEOPLE, JUST
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A THOUGHT,

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THEY ATTACH
TO THE THOUGHT.

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AND IT'S LIKE, YOU'RE NOT
YOUR THOUGHTS, RIGHT.

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YOUR THOUGHTS ARE RANDOM, THEY
COME FROM THE NEWS YOU WATCH,

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THE MUSIC
YOU LISTEN TO,

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THE VOICES IN YOUR PAST OF
YOUR MOM, DAD, SIBLINGS,

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FRIENDS, FOES.


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AND THEY MAY NOT ACTUALLY,
THEY MAY COME

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FROM A
DIFFERENT GENERATION,

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WHICH I FIND
COMPLETELY FASCINATING.

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BUT WHEN YOU GET A
THOUGHT, JUST QUESTION IT.

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ASK YOURSELF: IS
THIS THOUGHT TRUE?

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REALLY?


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IS IT HELPFUL?


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AND IF IT'S NOT, KILL IT.


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AND SO I WROTE A
CHILDREN'S BOOK.

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I NEED TO SEND IT TO YOU
BECAUSE YOU HAVE LITTLE KIDS

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CALLED<i>CAPTAIN SNOUT
AND THE SUPERPOWER QUESTIONS</i> .

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AND THE SUPERPOWER
QUESTIONS IS, IS IT TRUE?

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IS IT ABSOLUTELY TRUE?


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JOHN 8:32, KNOW THE TRUTH.


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THE TRUTH WILL
SET YOU FREE.

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REBECCA: TAKE EVERY
THOUGHT CAPTIVE.

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DR. AMEN: TAKE EVERY THOUGHT
CAPTIVE IN PHILLIPPIANS 4:8,

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THINK ON
WHATEVER IS TRUE, RIGHT,

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LOVELY GOOD, EXCELLENT,
WORTHY OF PRAISE.

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PAUL IS TELLING US THE
DISCIPLINE OF THINKING,

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AND THEN JUST
TEST THE THOUGHT.

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DOES THIS FIT GOD'S
GOOD, PERFECT,

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AND PLEASING WILL,
WHICH IS ABUNDANT LIFE.

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REBECCA: WHAT'S
INTERESTING, TOO,

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IS PAUL IS ALSO ALWAYS TELLING
BELIEVERS TO PUT THEIR MIND,

00:11:14.467 --> 00:11:17.400
IN COLOSSIANS 3,
ON HEAVENLY THINGS.

00:11:17.500 --> 00:11:21.667
AND SO HE'S SAYING, IT'S LIKE WE
LIVE IN THIS PHYSICAL WORLD NOW,

00:11:21.767 --> 00:11:23.033
BUT UNDERSTAND THAT
CHRIST IS

00:11:23.133 --> 00:11:24.733
SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND
OF THE FATHER

00:11:24.833 --> 00:11:26.800
AND THAT IN CHRIST WE HAVE
EVERY SPIRITUAL BLESSING.

00:11:26.900 --> 00:11:28.567
AND SO HE'S CONSTANTLY
TEACHING THE BELIEVERS,

00:11:28.667 --> 00:11:30.200
YOU HAVE A
GREAT INHERITANCE,

00:11:30.300 --> 00:11:31.733
YOU'RE A CHILD OF GOD.


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IT'S THAT LIVING BY FAITH,
UNDERSTANDING IN THE MIND

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TO MEDITATE ON THE
PROMISES OF GOD.

00:11:38.100 --> 00:11:39.566
THE IDENTITY OF
WHO WE ARE IN CHRIST.

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WHAT CHRIST DID FOR US ON
THE CROSS AND HOW THAT CAN

00:11:42.066 --> 00:11:45.966
SHIFT OUR ENTIRE VIEWPOINT
AND OUR WAY OF THINKING

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BECAUSE WE GO FROM
VIEWING OURSELVES AS, OH,

00:11:48.533 --> 00:11:50.567
I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH OR I'M
A LOSER, I'M A THIS, BUT,

00:11:50.667 --> 00:11:52.400
NO, IN CHRIST,
I'M A WINNER.

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IN CHRIST, I
HAVE A PURPOSE.

00:11:53.733 --> 00:11:55.534
IN CHRIST, I HAVE EVERY
SPIRITUAL BLESSING.

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AND SO I NEVER THOUGHT
ABOUT THAT IN COLOSSIANS.

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HE'S SAYING, PUT YOUR
MIND ON THINGS ABOVE,

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THINGS THAT ARE IN HEAVEN.


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DON'T BE LOADED DOWN BY
THE WEIGHT OF THIS WORLD,

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BUT UNDERSTAND THE PROMISES
THAT CHRIST HAS FOR YOU.

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I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT
FROM A THINKING PERSPECTIVE,

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HOW HE'S EVEN
INSTRUCTING US THERE.

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DR. AMEN: WELL, AND
WHEN YOU THINK OF

00:12:15.567 --> 00:12:20.333
THE MOTHER TOXIC THOUGHT
IS I'M NOT ENOUGH,

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WHICH IS ALL ABOUT YOU.


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WHERE THAT'S NOT WHERE YOUR
THOUGHTS ARE THE MOST HELPFUL,

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THE MOST
HELPFUL THOUGHTS ARE,

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HOW CAN I BE USEFUL?


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WHY DID GOD PUT
ME ON THE EARTH?

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AND BECAUSE GOD HAS LEFT SO MANY
IN THE YOUNGER GENERATION

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THAT THEIR PARENTS DIDN'T
TAKE THEM TO CHURCH,

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DIDN'T PUT BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES
INTO THEIR LIFE,

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WELL, IT
BECOMES ALL ABOUT ME.

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AND WHEN IT'S ALL ABOUT
ME, THEN I'M NOT ENOUGH.

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AND PEOPLE LIVE SO MUCH IN
THE GAP OF WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE

00:12:57.834 --> 00:12:59.667
AS OPPOSED
TO THE GAME,

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WHICH IS HOW FAR THEY'VE COME
AND HOW AWESOME THEY REALLY ARE.

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WE HAVE TO TEACH KIDS HOW
TO MANAGE THEIR MINDS.

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I WAS 28 YEARS OLD IN MY
PSYCHIATRIC RESIDENCY

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AT THE WALTER REED ARMY MEDICAL
CENTER IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,

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WHEN ONE
OF OUR TEACHERS SAID,

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YOU HAVE TO TEACH YOUR
PATIENTS NOT TO BELIEVE

00:13:20.900 --> 00:13:23.166
EVERY STUPID
THING THEY THINK.

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IT WAS SUCH A REVELATION
BECAUSE I'M 28 YEARS OLD,

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I HAVE AN ADVANCED DEGREE, AND
I BELIEVED EVERYTHING I THINK.

00:13:33.133 --> 00:13:35.900
AND IT'S LIKE, NO.


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THE THOUGHTS
ARE JUST RANDOM

00:13:38.366 --> 00:13:40.467
AND THEY COME FROM
ALL SORTS OF PLACES.

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I NEED TO TAKE THEM
CAPTIVE AND GO,

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DOES THIS HELP ME OR
DOES THIS HURT ME?

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DOES IT GET ME
WHAT I WANT?

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AN EXERCISE I DO
WITH ALL OF MY PATIENTS

00:13:52.034 --> 00:13:53.934
CALLED THE
ONE-PAGE MIRACLE.

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ON ONE PIECE OF PAPER,
WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU WANT:

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RELATIONSHIPS
WITH YOUR HUSBAND,

00:14:01.067 --> 00:14:05.134
WITH YOUR CHILDREN, WITH
YOUR FAMILY OR FRIENDS,

00:14:05.234 --> 00:14:10.266
YOUR MONEY, YOUR WORK,
YOUR PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL,

00:14:10.366 --> 00:14:12.366
SPIRITUAL HEALTH.


00:14:12.466 --> 00:14:14.700
WHAT DO YOU WANT?


00:14:14.800 --> 00:14:16.967
BECAUSE IF I TELL
YOU WHAT YOU WANT,

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YOU WON'T WANT THAT.


00:14:18.300 --> 00:14:18.733
RIGHT.


00:14:18.833 --> 00:14:21.167
WHAT DO YOU WANT?


00:14:21.267 --> 00:14:23.667
AND THEN THE
QUESTION BECOMES,

00:14:23.767 --> 00:14:26.500
ONCE YOU DEFINE
THAT, DOES IT FIT?

00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:32.767
DOES YOUR BEHAVIOR FIT THE
GOALS YOU HAVE FOR YOUR LIFE?

00:14:32.867 --> 00:14:35.000
AND IF YOUR
BRAIN IS HEALTHY,

00:14:35.100 --> 00:14:39.667
IT'S SO MUCH EASIER
TO DO WHAT FITS.

00:14:39.767 --> 00:14:42.833
SO FOR EXAMPLE, I WANT
A KIND, CARING, LOVING,

00:14:42.933 --> 00:14:47.500
SUPPORTIVE, PASSIONATE
RELATIONSHIP WITH MY WIFE.

00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:52.233
I ALWAYS WANT THAT, BUT I DON'T
ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THAT, RIGHT.

00:14:52.333 --> 00:14:57.500
RUDE THOUGHTS SHOW UP, AND
I GO, WELL, DOES IT FIT?

00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.000
AND I DON'T SAY THEM.


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NOW, IF I HAVE ALCOHOL --
I DON'T DRINK --

00:15:02.167 --> 00:15:06.233
BUT IF I HAD ALCOHOL, THE
RUDE THOUGHTS WOULD GET OUT.

00:15:06.333 --> 00:15:10.567
IF I DIDN'T SLEEP, THE
RUDE THOUGHTS WOULD GET OUT.

00:15:10.667 --> 00:15:14.800
IF I HAVEN'T EATEN IN A LONG
TIME AND I HAVE LOW BLOOD SUGAR,

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THE RUDE
THOUGHTS GET OUT.

00:15:17.700 --> 00:15:20.234
IN FACT, I WAS LISTENING
TO GENESIS YESTERDAY,

00:15:20.334 --> 00:15:27.066
AND THIS STORY OF ESAU, ESAU
AND JACOB, AND ESAU'S HUNGRY.

00:15:27.166 --> 00:15:31.133
HE COMES BACK AND HE'S
FAMISHED, AND HE'S LIKE,

00:15:31.233 --> 00:15:34.233
PLEASE, JACOB,
GIVE ME SOME FOOD.

00:15:34.333 --> 00:15:38.033
AND JACOB, SNEAKY
AS CAN BE, RIGHT,

00:15:38.133 --> 00:15:39.300
HE'S A SNEAKY ONE.


00:15:39.400 --> 00:15:41.200
REBECCA:
SUPPLANTER.

00:15:41.300 --> 00:15:42.767
DR. AMEN:
IT'S LIKE, WELL,

00:15:42.867 --> 00:15:45.567
SELL ME YOUR BIRTHRIGHT,
AND I'LL GIVE YOU FOOD.

00:15:45.667 --> 00:15:49.700
AND WHAT IDIOT, WHAT
IDIOT WOULD GO, OKAY.

00:15:49.800 --> 00:15:56.267
BUT LOW BLOOD SUGAR GOES
WITH TROUBLED BEHAVIOR.

00:15:56.367 --> 00:16:00.634
PEOPLE RELAPSE FROM ADDICTION
WHEN THEIR BLOOD SUGAR GETS LOW.

00:16:00.734 --> 00:16:01.567
REBECCA: REALLY?


00:16:01.667 --> 00:16:04.333
DR. AMEN: SO JUST
PROTECTING YOUR DIET

00:16:04.433 --> 00:16:06.400
CAN HELP YOU
NOT RELAPSE.

00:16:06.500 --> 00:16:07.433
ISN'T THAT CRAZY?


00:16:07.533 --> 00:16:09.200
REBECCA: THAT IS CRAZY.


00:16:09.300 --> 00:16:11.567
THE OTHER THING THAT
I WANTED TO ASK IS,

00:16:11.667 --> 00:16:13.566
BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
TAKING THOSE THOUGHTS CAPTIVE,

00:16:13.666 --> 00:16:16.067
HOW DO YOU
INSTRUCT YOUR PATIENTS,

00:16:16.167 --> 00:16:17.467
WHEN THEY
HAVE A NEGATIVE THOUGHT,

00:16:17.567 --> 00:16:18.633
HOW DO THEY KILL IT?


00:16:18.733 --> 00:16:20.167
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK
LIKE, PRACTICALLY?

00:16:20.267 --> 00:16:22.033
DR. AMEN: I
LOVE THIS SO MUCH.

00:16:22.133 --> 00:16:25.600
A LOT OF MY
PATIENTS, ACTUALLY,

00:16:25.700 --> 00:16:28.767
BECOME CAN'T-HUNTERS,
THAT THEY GO HUNTING

00:16:28.867 --> 00:16:31.200
FOR THE THOUGHTS
THAT BOTHER THEM.

00:16:31.300 --> 00:16:32.567
HERE'S THE EXERCISE.


00:16:32.667 --> 00:16:38.633
WHENEVER YOU FEEL SAD OR MAD
OR NERVOUS OR OUT OF CONTROL,

00:16:38.733 --> 00:16:40.634
WRITE DOWN
WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

00:16:40.734 --> 00:16:42.733
AND THEN THERE ARE
FIVE QUESTIONS.

00:16:42.833 --> 00:16:47.833
DO YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF
A BAD THOUGHT THAT TORMENTS YOU?

00:16:47.933 --> 00:16:48.400
REBECCA: ME?


00:16:48.500 --> 00:16:49.300
DR. AMEN: YEAH.


00:16:49.400 --> 00:16:49.967
REBECCA: OH, YEAH.


00:16:50.067 --> 00:16:51.300
LIKE I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH.


00:16:51.400 --> 00:16:52.833
THAT ACTUALLY, I'VE
HAD THAT THOUGHT.

00:16:52.933 --> 00:16:53.900
YEAH.


00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.200
DR. AMEN: SO IT'S
PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE THAT

00:16:55.300 --> 00:17:00.767
I'VE BEEN MILEY CYRUS' DOCTOR
FOR 13 YEARS, 14 YEARS NOW.

00:17:00.867 --> 00:17:02.400
I LOVE HER SO MUCH.


00:17:02.500 --> 00:17:04.100
JUSTIN BIEBER'S DOCTOR.


00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:05.300
WHOLE.


00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.834
THEIR COMMON THOUGHT, WHEN
THEY FIRST COME TO SEE ME,

00:17:08.934 --> 00:17:10.067
I AM NOT ENOUGH.


00:17:10.167 --> 00:17:11.967
AND I LOOK AT
HER, I'M LIKE,

00:17:12.067 --> 00:17:13.666
IF YOU'RE NOT
ENOUGH, WHO IS?

00:17:13.766 --> 00:17:14.467
RIGHT?


00:17:14.567 --> 00:17:16.267
AND, OKAY.


00:17:16.367 --> 00:17:18.200
SO JUST DO THE
EXERCISE WITH ME.

00:17:18.300 --> 00:17:19.834
WE'LL ROLE PLAY.


00:17:19.934 --> 00:17:20.667
I'M NOT ENOUGH.


00:17:20.767 --> 00:17:22.200
I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH.


00:17:22.300 --> 00:17:26.233
IS THAT TRUE?


00:17:26.333 --> 00:17:27.533
REBECCA: NO.


00:17:27.633 --> 00:17:28.367
[ LAUGHING ]


00:17:28.467 --> 00:17:29.467
THEY'RE LAUGHING
AT ME, MY TEAM.

00:17:29.567 --> 00:17:30.067
DR. AMEN: OKAY.


00:17:30.167 --> 00:17:31.167
SO LET'S SAY MAYBE.


00:17:31.267 --> 00:17:32.367
LET'S GO MAYBE.


00:17:32.467 --> 00:17:34.067
BECAUSE YOU HESITATED.


00:17:34.167 --> 00:17:36.833
THE SECOND QUESTION,
IS IT ABSOLUTELY TRUE,

00:17:36.933 --> 00:17:38.800
WITH A HUNDRED
PERCENT CERTAINTY,

00:17:38.900 --> 00:17:41.566
YOU KNOW YOU ARE
NOT GOOD ENOUGH?

00:17:41.666 --> 00:17:42.300
REBECCA: NO.


00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:42.900
DR. AMEN:
OF COURSE NOT.

00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:45.100
YOU'RE A CHILD OF GOD.


00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.067
THE THIRD QUESTION.


00:17:47.167 --> 00:17:49.034
HOW DOES THAT THOUGHT
MAKE YOU FEEL?

00:17:49.134 --> 00:17:51.633
REBECCA: SAD.


00:17:51.733 --> 00:17:55.133
OR LIKE WORTHLESS.


00:17:55.233 --> 00:17:58.767
DR. AMEN: HOW
DOES IT MAKE YOU ACT?

00:17:58.867 --> 00:18:01.467
REBECCA: SHUT DOWN.


00:18:01.567 --> 00:18:05.166
DR. AMEN: OR OVERDOING,
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

00:18:05.266 --> 00:18:07.867
THINK ABOUT IT
AS A MOTHER.

00:18:07.967 --> 00:18:12.734
WHAT'S THE OUTCOME OF
BELIEVING I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH?

00:18:12.834 --> 00:18:15.534
REBECCA: YOU DON'T
LIVE UP TO YOUR DESTINY.

00:18:15.634 --> 00:18:17.667
DR. AMEN: SUFFERING.


00:18:17.767 --> 00:18:20.033
SO THE FOURTH QUESTION.


00:18:20.133 --> 00:18:24.133
SO IS IT TRUE, IS
IT ABSOLUTELY TRUE,

00:18:24.233 --> 00:18:27.167
HOW DOES THE THOUGHT
MAKE ME FEEL, ACT,

00:18:27.267 --> 00:18:28.733
AND WHAT'S THE OUTCOME
OF THAT THOUGHT?

00:18:28.833 --> 00:18:30.200
SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION.


00:18:30.300 --> 00:18:32.334
THE FOURTH QUESTION IS,
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL

00:18:32.434 --> 00:18:34.333
IF YOU
DIDN'T HAVE THE THOUGHT?

00:18:34.433 --> 00:18:36.400
IF YOU COULDN'T
HAVE THE THOUGHT?

00:18:36.500 --> 00:18:37.600
REBECCA: I
WOULD FEEL FREE.

00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:39.333
DR. AMEN: FREE.


00:18:39.433 --> 00:18:42.067
HOW WOULD YOU ACT?


00:18:42.167 --> 00:18:42.800
REBECCA: FREE.


00:18:42.900 --> 00:18:43.700
[ LAUGHING ]


00:18:43.800 --> 00:18:45.333
I WOULD LIKE I
WOULD BE CONFIDENT.

00:18:45.433 --> 00:18:46.234
YEAH.


00:18:46.334 --> 00:18:47.100
DR. AMEN: AND
WHAT'S THE OUTCOME?

00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:47.867
PEACE.


00:18:47.967 --> 00:18:49.000
REBECCA: MM-HM.


00:18:49.100 --> 00:18:50.233
DR. AMEN: AND THEN
THE FIFTH QUESTION,

00:18:50.333 --> 00:18:53.166
MY FAVORITE QUESTION, IS
YOU TAKE THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT

00:18:53.266 --> 00:18:59.667
THAT BOTHERS YOU
AND YOU FLIP IT TO THE OPPOSITE.

00:18:59.767 --> 00:19:03.600
NOW, I'M NOT THE
NARCISSISTIC OPPOSITE.

00:19:03.700 --> 00:19:06.300
I AM THE BEST.


00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.300
I'VE BEEN PLAYING WITH
THAT THOUGHT A LITTLE BIT

00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:10.767
BECAUSE ONE OF MY
PATIENTS, MOHAMMED ALI,

00:19:10.867 --> 00:19:13.700
USED TO SAY THAT ALL THE
TIME, AND IN FACT, HE WAS.

00:19:13.800 --> 00:19:15.167
[ LAUGHING ]


00:19:15.267 --> 00:19:16.034
DR. AMEN: AND WE HAVE
A PRESIDENT

00:19:16.134 --> 00:19:17.000
THAT SORT OF
DOES THAT.

00:19:17.100 --> 00:19:18.767
[ LAUGHING ]


00:19:18.867 --> 00:19:20.233
DR. AMEN: AND
PERHAPS HE IS.

00:19:20.333 --> 00:19:25.300
BUT I AM GOOD ENOUGH.


00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.634
DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES
WHERE THAT'S TRUE?

00:19:27.734 --> 00:19:30.433
WHERE YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH?


00:19:30.533 --> 00:19:32.633
REBECCA: I'M GOOD
ENOUGH TO THE LORD.

00:19:32.733 --> 00:19:34.200
I KNOW THAT.


00:19:34.300 --> 00:19:38.366
I'M GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY
HUSBAND, FOR MY KIDS.

00:19:38.466 --> 00:19:39.367
YEAH.


00:19:39.467 --> 00:19:41.500
DR. AMEN: AND THAT'S
WHERE YOU MEDITATE.

00:19:41.600 --> 00:19:43.333
I AM GOOD ENOUGH.


00:19:43.433 --> 00:19:48.200
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T
DISCIPLINE YOUR MIND,

00:19:48.300 --> 00:19:50.000
IT WILL HURT YOU.


00:19:50.100 --> 00:19:56.500
AND WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY OF
PEOPLE WITH UNDISCIPLINED MINDS.

00:19:56.600 --> 00:19:57.733
REBECCA: OH, YEAH.


00:19:57.833 --> 00:20:00.100
I FEEL LIKE -- THAT'S WHY
I FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING

00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:02.800
IS SO IMPORTANT
BECAUSE I'D EVEN,

00:20:02.900 --> 00:20:06.500
FOR MYSELF, I'VE JUST --
YOU LET YOUR THOUGHTS RUN WILD,

00:20:06.600 --> 00:20:09.200
AND IT CAN JUST TURN
INTO A DOWNWARD SPIRAL.

00:20:09.300 --> 00:20:10.500
MY HUSBAND AND I
JOKE ABOUT THAT,

00:20:10.600 --> 00:20:12.733
HE'S SITTING OVER THERE, WHERE
YOU GO ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL,

00:20:12.833 --> 00:20:14.233
HE'S LIKE, YOU
HAVE TO PULL THE PERSON OUT,

00:20:14.333 --> 00:20:16.500
BECAUSE IF YOU JUST
LET THEM RUN RAMPANT...

00:20:16.600 --> 00:20:19.467
DR. AMEN: WELL, I'M NOT
GOOD ENOUGH WILL THEN LINK TO

00:20:19.567 --> 00:20:22.733
ANOTHER BAD THOUGHT
ABOUT YOURSELF.

00:20:22.833 --> 00:20:24.700
I'M NOT PRETTY ENOUGH,
I'M NOT RICH ENOUGH,

00:20:24.800 --> 00:20:27.267
I'M NOT TALL ENOUGH,
I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH.

00:20:27.367 --> 00:20:30.433
AND THEN THOSE NEGATIVE
THOUGHTS, THEY LINK,

00:20:30.533 --> 00:20:32.967
AND THEN THEY STACK WITH
OTHER NEGATIVE THOUGHTS,

00:20:33.067 --> 00:20:34.900
AND THEN THEY ATTACK YOU.


00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:36.834
AND THAT'S WHEN
PEOPLE WANT TO DIE.

00:20:36.934 --> 00:20:37.600
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:20:37.700 --> 00:20:38.766
BECAUSE THEY
FEEL HOPELESS.

00:20:38.866 --> 00:20:41.434
DR. AMEN: AND ANOTHER
STRATEGY I GIVE MY PATIENTS

00:20:41.534 --> 00:20:43.867
IS GIVING
YOUR MIND A NAME.

00:20:43.967 --> 00:20:47.767
BECAUSE WHEN YOU CAN GAIN
PSYCHOLOGICAL DISTANCE

00:20:47.867 --> 00:20:50.800
FROM THE NOISE
IN YOUR HEAD,

00:20:50.900 --> 00:20:54.800
YOU CAN EVALUATE WHETHER
OR NOT IT'S USEFUL,

00:20:54.900 --> 00:20:57.233
WHETHER OR NOT YOU TALKED
TO YOUR CHILDREN THAT WAY

00:20:57.333 --> 00:20:59.500
OR YOU'D TALK TO
A FRIEND THAT WAY.

00:20:59.600 --> 00:21:04.134
AND WHEN I HEARD THIS
TECHNIQUE, LIKE,

00:21:04.234 --> 00:21:06.433
WHAT WOULD I NAME MY MIND.


00:21:06.533 --> 00:21:09.533
AND IT CAME TO ME
ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

00:21:09.633 --> 00:21:10.700
HERMY.


00:21:10.800 --> 00:21:15.700
AND HERMY WAS MY PET
RACCOON WHEN I WAS 16.

00:21:15.800 --> 00:21:19.667
I WENT TO A PET STORE TO
GET MY GERMAN SHEPHERD A LEASH,

00:21:19.767 --> 00:21:25.467
AND A BABY RACCOON
CLIMBED UP THE BACK OF MY JEANS,

00:21:25.567 --> 00:21:27.100
CLIMBED UP
ONTO MY SHOULDERS,

00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.900
AND WHEN I HAD HAIR,
STARTED PLAYING WITH MY HAIR.

00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.767
AND I GRABBED THIS
THING, SHE'S SO CUTE,

00:21:32.867 --> 00:21:34.634
I ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW
IT WAS A GIRL

00:21:34.734 --> 00:21:36.233
UNTIL SHE
GOT PREGNANT LATER,

00:21:36.333 --> 00:21:43.033
THE HUSSY,
BUT SHE WAS A TROUBLEMAKER.

00:21:43.133 --> 00:21:47.166
I LOVED HER, BUT SHE TP'D
MY MOTHER'S BATHROOM.

00:21:47.266 --> 00:21:48.766
AND THAT WAS
SUCH A BAD DAY.

00:21:48.866 --> 00:21:51.734
SHE ATE ALL THE FISH OUT
OF MY SISTER'S AQUARIUM,

00:21:51.834 --> 00:21:54.967
SHE LEFT RACCOON
POO IN MY SHOES.

00:21:55.067 --> 00:21:56.567
AND THAT'S MY MIND.


00:21:56.667 --> 00:21:58.367
IT JUST STARTS OFF --


00:21:58.467 --> 00:22:00.066
REBECCA:
GOES OFF, YEAH.

00:22:00.166 --> 00:22:01.400
DR. AMEN: TROUBLE!


00:22:01.500 --> 00:22:05.700
AND SO I NOTICE WHEN MY MIND'S
STARTING TO GET OUT OF CONTROL,

00:22:05.800 --> 00:22:07.566
I'M LIKE, HERMY,


00:22:07.666 --> 00:22:09.666
GOING TO PUT
YOU IN THE CAGE.

00:22:09.766 --> 00:22:12.766
AND NOW WHAT I DO, BECAUSE
RACCOONS MAKE OVER 200 SOUNDS,

00:22:12.866 --> 00:22:14.667
IN MY MIND, I JUST
PUT HER ON HER BACK

00:22:14.767 --> 00:22:16.700
AND TICKLE HER
AND PLAY WITH HER

00:22:16.800 --> 00:22:19.967
AND TREAT HER LIKE
SOMEONE I LOVE,

00:22:20.067 --> 00:22:22.833
AND IT'S
ALL GOING TO BE FINE.

00:22:22.933 --> 00:22:27.367
SO I HAD ONE PERSON NAME
THEIR MIND RECENTLY TOMMY,

00:22:27.467 --> 00:22:29.067
BECAUSE IT WAS
LIKE A TOMMY GUN.

00:22:29.167 --> 00:22:31.900
IT'S LIKE,
<i>TA TA TA TA TA</i> .

00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.733
YOU KNOW, THE NEGATIVITY.


00:22:33.833 --> 00:22:37.000
I HAD ANOTHER ONE WHO
NAMED HIS MIND ANDY,

00:22:37.100 --> 00:22:39.833
BECAUSE HE HAD A PARROT
NAMED ANDY THAT HAD EIGHT WORDS

00:22:39.933 --> 00:22:41.833
AND SAID THE SAME
EIGHT WORDS ALL THE TIME,

00:22:41.933 --> 00:22:46.333
AND THAT WAS HIS MIND
CRITICIZING HIM.

00:22:46.433 --> 00:22:50.767
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE
EVERY STUPID THING YOU THINK.

00:22:50.867 --> 00:22:53.466
GIVE YOUR MIND A NAME.


00:22:53.566 --> 00:22:55.867
REBECCA: AND SO IT'S
LIKE YOU DON'T ALLOW YOUR MIND

00:22:55.967 --> 00:22:58.700
TO RUN YOUR LIFE,
THAT YOU HAVE DOMINION,

00:22:58.800 --> 00:23:00.066
AN ACT OF YOUR WILL.


00:23:00.166 --> 00:23:03.033
YOU SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING
TO PUT YOU IN THE CORNER.

00:23:03.133 --> 00:23:06.100
AND LIKE YOU SAID TOO,
YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW IT LOVE,

00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:07.300
AND IT'S
GOING TO BE OKAY.

00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:07.967
DR. AMEN: YEAH.


00:23:08.067 --> 00:23:09.134
THAT'S LIKE, DOES IT FIT?


00:23:09.234 --> 00:23:14.500
DO THESE THOUGHTS
FIT THE GOALS I HAVE?

00:23:14.600 --> 00:23:21.500
IF I AM A CHILD OF GOD THAT
JESUS THOUGHT WAS SO IMPORTANT

00:23:21.600 --> 00:23:24.466
THAT HE
WOULD DIE FOR MY SINS,

00:23:24.566 --> 00:23:33.266
THAT THEY'RE WASHED AWAY,
I NEED TO BE GRATEFUL FOR THEM.

00:23:33.366 --> 00:23:34.334
REBECCA: TOTALLY.


00:23:34.434 --> 00:23:36.100
DR. AMEN: AND I NEED
TO TAKE CARE OF MY BRAIN.

00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:37.066
RIGHT.


00:23:37.166 --> 00:23:39.067
YOUR BODY IS A TEMPLE OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT

00:23:39.167 --> 00:23:41.466
THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY GOD
THAT WAS BOUGHT FOR YOU

00:23:41.566 --> 00:23:43.833
AT A PRICE OF THE BLOOD
OF JESUS CHRIST.

00:23:43.933 --> 00:23:47.666
IT'S LIKE, MY
BODY IS A TEMPLE,

00:23:47.766 --> 00:23:49.767
MY BRAIN IS THE
INNER SANCTUM.

00:23:49.867 --> 00:23:52.567
AM I TREATING IT SO?


00:23:52.667 --> 00:23:57.400
AM I HONORING THE
GIFT GOD GAVE ME?

00:23:57.500 --> 00:23:59.867
AND ALCOHOL'S
NOT HONORING IT.

00:23:59.967 --> 00:24:00.300
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:01.166
LET'S TALK.


00:24:01.266 --> 00:24:02.167
SO THAT'S WHAT I
WANT TO MOVE INTO,

00:24:02.267 --> 00:24:05.133
IS WHAT THINGS
ARE BIG NO'S.

00:24:05.233 --> 00:24:06.434
NO-NO'S FOR THE BRAIN.


00:24:06.534 --> 00:24:09.467
SO ALCOHOL, THERE'S NOTHING
POSITIVE ABOUT IT, BASICALLY.

00:24:09.567 --> 00:24:12.367
DR. AMEN: IT INCREASES YOUR RISK
OF SEVEN DIFFERENT CANCERS.

00:24:12.467 --> 00:24:16.566
AND THERE'S NOT A WEEK THAT HAS
GONE BY IN THE LAST 45 YEARS

00:24:16.666 --> 00:24:18.933
I'VE BEEN A
PSYCHIATRIST WHERE ALCOHOL

00:24:19.033 --> 00:24:22.800
HASN'T DONE SOMETHING AWFUL
FOR ONE OF MY PATIENTS.

00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:25.567
THAT THEY HAD AN AFFAIR,
THEY SAID SOMETHING,

00:24:25.667 --> 00:24:29.800
THEY DID SOMETHING
THAT WAS DAMAGING.

00:24:29.900 --> 00:24:34.033
ALCOHOL TAKES YOUR
FRONTAL LOBES OFFLINE.

00:24:34.133 --> 00:24:36.066
NOW, WHY IS THAT
IMPORTANT?

00:24:36.166 --> 00:24:38.400
YOUR FRONTAL LOBES
ARE THE MOST HUMAN,

00:24:38.500 --> 00:24:40.666
MOST EVOLVED PART
OF THE BRAIN.

00:24:40.766 --> 00:24:42.967
IT'S 30% OF THE
HUMAN BRAIN,

00:24:43.067 --> 00:24:46.500
11% OF THE
CHIMPANZEE BRAIN,

00:24:46.600 --> 00:24:51.600
7% OF YOUR DOG'S BRAIN,
3% OF THE CAT'S BRAIN.

00:24:51.700 --> 00:24:53.500
ONE PERSON AT
THE MOST'S BRAIN.

00:24:53.600 --> 00:24:55.400
IT'S THE MOST HUMAN
PART OF YOU.

00:24:55.500 --> 00:24:58.600
IT'S INVOLVED IN THINGS
LIKE FOCUS, FORETHOUGHT,

00:24:58.700 --> 00:25:02.600
JUDGMENT, IMPULSE CONTROL,
ORGANIZATION, PLANNING,

00:25:02.700 --> 00:25:05.533
EMPATHY, LEARNING FROM
THE MISTAKES YOU MAKE.

00:25:05.633 --> 00:25:07.233
DON'T TAKE THEM OFFLINE.


00:25:07.333 --> 00:25:11.866
YOUR PREFRONTAL CORTEX IS
THE BREAK IN YOUR BRAIN.

00:25:11.966 --> 00:25:15.600
YOU GET A CRAZY THOUGHT,
YOUR PREFRONTAL CORTEX GOES,

00:25:15.700 --> 00:25:17.000
DON'T SAY IT.


00:25:17.100 --> 00:25:19.300
DON'T DO THAT.


00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:23.967
WHEN YOU DRINK, YOU
WEAKEN THE BREAK,

00:25:24.067 --> 00:25:25.333
AND THOUGHTS GET OUT.


00:25:25.433 --> 00:25:26.867
THOUGHTS YOU DON'T
EVEN BELIEVE.

00:25:26.967 --> 00:25:31.634
BUT THEY GET OUT
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THEM.

00:25:31.734 --> 00:25:32.767
REBECCA: SO WHAT
WAS IT AS A DOCTOR?

00:25:32.867 --> 00:25:35.300
WHAT DID YOU SEE WITH
ALCOHOL THAT MADE YOU SAY,

00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:38.200
I'M NOT DRINKING, I'M
NOT PARTAKING IN THIS?

00:25:38.300 --> 00:25:40.800
DR. AMEN: LOWER ACTIVITY
OVERALL IN THE BRAIN.

00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:44.500
PREMATURELY
AGES THE BRAIN.

00:25:44.600 --> 00:25:49.033
AND I THINK WITHIN
THE NEXT TEN YEARS,

00:25:49.133 --> 00:25:53.267
IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY WHO'S
SMOKING, YOU GO, REALLY?

00:25:53.367 --> 00:25:54.500
LIKE, REALLY?


00:25:54.600 --> 00:25:57.166
I THINK WHEN IT
COMES TO ALCOHOL,

00:25:57.266 --> 00:26:00.433
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET
THAT SAME, SERIOUSLY?

00:26:00.533 --> 00:26:03.633
DON'T YOU KNOW IT INCREASES THE
RISK OF SEVEN DIFFERENT CANCERS?

00:26:03.733 --> 00:26:04.767
REBECCA: HOW BAD IT IS.


00:26:04.867 --> 00:26:07.066
DR. AMEN: DON'T YOU
KNOW YOU'RE JUST MORE LIKELY

00:26:07.166 --> 00:26:08.533
TO SAY
STUPID THINGS?

00:26:08.633 --> 00:26:11.000
REALLY?


00:26:11.100 --> 00:26:14.300
AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT,
BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE

00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:21.667
PEOPLE LIKE LEBRON JAMES WHO HAS
HIS VODKA COMPANY, IT'S LIKE,

00:26:21.767 --> 00:26:22.767
NO.


00:26:22.867 --> 00:26:25.967
THESE ARE NOT THE THINGS
THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT,

00:26:26.067 --> 00:26:31.433
IT'S THE THING THAT MAKES
OUR SOCIETY SICKER AND DUMBER.

00:26:31.533 --> 00:26:32.900
MARIJUANA.


00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.400
MANY PEOPLE THINK
MARIJUANA'S INNOCUOUS.

00:26:35.500 --> 00:26:39.300
AND THAT WHOLE MOVEMENT
DIDN'T HELP US ANY.

00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.767
NOW, I'M NOT A FAN OF PUTTING
PEOPLE WHO USE MARIJUANA

00:26:41.867 --> 00:26:42.767
IN JAIL.


00:26:42.867 --> 00:26:44.634
BAD USE OF RESOURCES.


00:26:44.734 --> 00:26:46.900
BUT I THINK WE HAVE
TO TEACH PEOPLE,

00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.000
THIS IS NOT INNOCUOUS.


00:26:49.100 --> 00:26:52.300
TEENAGERS WHO USE
MARIJUANA INTO THEIR 20S

00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.200
HAVE AN INCREASED RISK OF
ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, SUICIDE,

00:26:56.300 --> 00:26:59.000
AND PSYCHOSIS.


00:26:59.100 --> 00:27:01.867
I'M VERY WORRIED
ABOUT PSILOCYBIN,

00:27:01.967 --> 00:27:04.700
BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S
LIKE, OH, MUSHROOMS!

00:27:04.800 --> 00:27:06.567
REBECCA:
THEY'RE SO INTO IT.

00:27:06.667 --> 00:27:07.634
DR. AMEN: DEPRESSION.


00:27:07.734 --> 00:27:11.200
OH, LIKE LET'S
LEGALIZE THEM!

00:27:11.300 --> 00:27:16.633
AND I'M LIKE, VISITS TO
EMERGENCY ROOMS

00:27:16.733 --> 00:27:21.567
FOR PSILOCYBIN PSYCHOSIS
HAS GONE UP 300%

00:27:21.667 --> 00:27:23.100
IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.


00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.733
WE NEED CAUTION.


00:27:25.833 --> 00:27:29.467
NOW, IN CERTAIN
SITUATIONS, MAY BE HELPFUL,

00:27:29.567 --> 00:27:31.734
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT
HAPPENS IN AMERICA.

00:27:31.834 --> 00:27:35.634
SOMEBODY GETS A BIG IDEA,
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,

00:27:35.734 --> 00:27:39.066
MY TEENAGE -- NOT TEENAGER,
SHE'S MY 21-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER,

00:27:39.166 --> 00:27:41.200
SAYS, DAD,
THEY'RE NOT DRINKING.

00:27:41.300 --> 00:27:42.800
THEY'RE HAVING
MUSHROOM PARTIES.

00:27:42.900 --> 00:27:45.400
THAT IS DANGEROUS.


00:27:45.500 --> 00:27:49.300
AND THEN, OF COURSE,
ULTRAPROCESSED FOODS AND SUGAR

00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:51.200
AND FOODS THAT
QUICKLY TURN TO SUGAR.

00:27:51.300 --> 00:27:54.333
IT'S A FASCINATING STUDY
FROM THE MAYO CLINIC

00:27:54.433 --> 00:27:57.034
THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE A
FAT-BASED DIET,

00:27:57.134 --> 00:27:59.400
BECAUSE FAT'S BEEN
DEMONIZED, BUT PEOPLE,

00:27:59.500 --> 00:28:03.867
AVOCADOS, NUTS AND
SEEDS, HEALTHY OILS,

00:28:03.967 --> 00:28:09.167
HEALTHY FISH, 42% LESS RISK OF
GETTING ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.

00:28:09.267 --> 00:28:10.267
REBECCA: WOW.


00:28:10.367 --> 00:28:11.766
DR. AMEN: PEOPLE WHO
HAVE A PROTEIN-BASED DIET,

00:28:11.866 --> 00:28:15.534
THEY HAVE A CAVEMAN DIET,
21% LESS RISK OF GETTING

00:28:15.634 --> 00:28:17.367
ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.


00:28:17.467 --> 00:28:20.267
BUT PEOPLE HAVE THE
STANDARD AMERICAN DIET;

00:28:20.367 --> 00:28:25.766
BREAD, PASTA, POTATOES,
RICE, FRUIT JUICE, SUGAR

00:28:25.866 --> 00:28:31.767
HAVE A 400% INCREASED RISK
OF ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.

00:28:31.867 --> 00:28:34.700
YOU WANT A HEALTHY BRAIN,
YOU'VE GOT TO FEED IT RIGHT.

00:28:34.800 --> 00:28:36.566
AND YOU'VE JUST GOT TO
ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION:

00:28:36.666 --> 00:28:42.000
DO I LOVE THIS FOOD, AND
DOES IT LOVE ME BACK?

00:28:42.100 --> 00:28:47.567
LIKE I HAD WILD GROPER AND
GREEN BEANS FOR LUNCH,

00:28:47.667 --> 00:28:48.800
AND I LOVED IT.


00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:50.900
AND IT LOVES ME.


00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:56.400
BUT IF I WOULD HAVE HAD
THE PASTA OR THE RICE DISH

00:28:56.500 --> 00:28:59.534
AND THE DESSERT,
NOW, I LOVE THAT,

00:28:59.634 --> 00:29:01.267
AND IT HATES ME.


00:29:01.367 --> 00:29:04.833
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER
BEEN IN A BAD RELATIONSHIP,

00:29:04.933 --> 00:29:08.000
BUT I HAVE,
AND I'M NOT DOING IT ANYMORE.

00:29:08.100 --> 00:29:10.433
I'M MARRIED TO
MY BEST FRIEND.

00:29:10.533 --> 00:29:13.533
AND I'M FOR CERTAIN NOT
DOING IT WITH FOOD.

00:29:13.633 --> 00:29:14.967
REBECCA: I'M ON
THE SAME PAGE AS YOU.

00:29:15.067 --> 00:29:17.800
BREAK UP THE THINGS, WITH THE
THINGS THAT ARE HURTING YOU,

00:29:17.900 --> 00:29:20.467
NOT JUST PEOPLE RELATIONSHIPS,
BUT FOOD RELATIONSHIPS.

00:29:20.567 --> 00:29:22.767
AND I DO WANT TO FOCUS
ON THIS A LITTLE BIT

00:29:22.867 --> 00:29:25.067
BECAUSE IN THE CHURCH, BECAUSE
SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WATCH US

00:29:25.167 --> 00:29:26.967
AND LISTEN TO THIS
PODCAST ARE CHRISTIANS,

00:29:27.067 --> 00:29:28.100
THERE'S NOT AS
MUCH ALCOHOL,

00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.067
DEFINITELY NOT AS
MUCH MARIJUANA USE,

00:29:30.167 --> 00:29:33.400
BUT SUGAR IS THE
CHRISTIAN DRUG OF CHOICE.

00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:35.766
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE MEAN
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT,

00:29:35.866 --> 00:29:39.300
I EMPATHIZE WITH THAT,
BUT, FOR ME, PERSONALLY,

00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:43.300
I'VE ALMOST -- I BASICALLY
COMPLETELY CUT OUT CANE SUGAR

00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:45.467
BECAUSE I
SAW THE IMPACT.

00:29:45.567 --> 00:29:46.800
BECAUSE I THINK WHEN
YOU'RE YOUNGER,

00:29:46.900 --> 00:29:49.633
YOU DON'T SEE IT AS MUCH,
BUT AS YOU GET OLDER,

00:29:49.733 --> 00:29:51.467
YOU SEE THE EFFECT THAT
IT HAS ON YOUR HEALTH,

00:29:51.567 --> 00:29:54.100
ON YOUR MOOD, ON
YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM.

00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:55.533
THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN
REASONS I STOPPED DOING IT,

00:29:55.633 --> 00:29:57.033
BECAUSE I FOUND, YEAH.


00:29:57.133 --> 00:29:59.867
DR. AMEN: SO TWO THINGS
QUICKLY WITH YOUR KIDS.

00:29:59.967 --> 00:30:01.567
PLAY A GAME WITH THEM.


00:30:01.667 --> 00:30:03.700
I CALLED IT
CHLOE'S GAME, BECAUSE,

00:30:03.800 --> 00:30:07.834
THAT'S MY DAUGHTER, I'M
LIKE, CHLOE'S GAME.

00:30:07.934 --> 00:30:09.667
GOOD FOR YOUR BRAIN
OR BAD FOR IT?

00:30:09.767 --> 00:30:14.767
AND IF I SAID, BLUEBERRIES, SHE
WOULD GO, ARE THEY ORGANIC?

00:30:14.867 --> 00:30:17.034
BECAUSE NON-ORGANIC
BERRIES HOLD MORE PESTICIDES

00:30:17.134 --> 00:30:20.466
THAN ALMOST ANY OF THEM, I'M
LIKE, OF COURSE THEY'RE ORGANIC.

00:30:20.566 --> 00:30:22.100
GOD'S CANDY.


00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.400
I SAID, AVOCADOS.


00:30:24.500 --> 00:30:26.000
TWO THUMBS UP,
GOD'S BUTTER.

00:30:26.100 --> 00:30:28.400
TALKING BACK TO YOUR
RED-HEADED MOTHER.

00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:31.566
OH, VERY BAD FOR THE
BRAIN, TOO MUCH STRESS.

00:30:31.666 --> 00:30:33.267
[ LAUGHING ]


00:30:33.367 --> 00:30:36.734
DR. AMEN: SO YOU HAVE
TO TEACH KIDS AND GAMEIFY IT.

00:30:36.834 --> 00:30:39.167
DO IT WITH FUN.


00:30:39.267 --> 00:30:43.667
AND THEN I CO-CREATED THE DANIEL
PLAN OUT OF SADDLEBACK CHURCH,

00:30:43.767 --> 00:30:46.700
AND THE REASON I DID IS
I FINISHED MY BOOK,

00:30:46.800 --> 00:30:48.500
<i>CHANGE YOUR BRAIN,
CHANGE YOUR BODY</i>

00:30:48.600 --> 00:30:51.067
ON A
SUNDAY MORNING IN 2010,

00:30:51.167 --> 00:30:53.200
AND I WAS SO HAPPY.


00:30:53.300 --> 00:30:55.367
AND THEN WE
WENT TO CHURCH.

00:30:55.467 --> 00:30:59.334
AND I TOLD TANA,
MY WIFE, I SAID,

00:30:59.434 --> 00:31:01.034
DROP CHLOE OFF AT
CHILDREN'S CHURCH,

00:31:01.134 --> 00:31:02.367
I'LL GO SAVE THOSE SEATS.


00:31:02.467 --> 00:31:07.633
AND I WALKED BY HUNDREDS OF
DOUGHNUTS FOR SALE FOR CHARITY.

00:31:07.733 --> 00:31:10.667
AND I'VE BEEN GOING TO CHURCH
SINCE I WAS 4 YEARS OLD,

00:31:10.767 --> 00:31:12.033
AND I'VE ALWAYS
SEEN THE DOUGHNUTS,

00:31:12.133 --> 00:31:15.467
BUT THAT DAY, IT JUST
REALLY MADE ME ANGRY.

00:31:15.567 --> 00:31:18.900
AND THEN I WALKED, BACON
AND SAUSAGE COOKING ON THE GRILL

00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.866
RIGHT NEXT DOOR,
AND I'M LIKE, SERIOUSLY?

00:31:21.966 --> 00:31:26.166
BAD FAT, FILLED
WITH POISON.

00:31:26.266 --> 00:31:27.333
BEFORE I WALKED
IN THE SANCTUARY,

00:31:27.433 --> 00:31:30.434
THEY'RE COOKING HUNDREDS
OF HOT DOGS FOR AFTER CHURCH,

00:31:30.534 --> 00:31:33.667
I'M LIKE, I FELT LIKE
I JUST GOT HIT OVER AND OVER,

00:31:33.767 --> 00:31:35.266
AND
AS I SAT DOWN,

00:31:35.366 --> 00:31:38.800
THE MINISTER STARTED TALKING
ABOUT THE ICE CREAM FESTIVAL

00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:42.500
THEY HAD THE NIGHT BEFORE,
AND I'M FURIOUS.

00:31:42.600 --> 00:31:46.567
IT'S LIKE THAT MOMENT
WHERE YOUR EYES GET OPEN.

00:31:46.667 --> 00:31:48.433
AND WHEN MY WIFE
FOUND ME IN CHURCH,

00:31:48.533 --> 00:31:50.267
SHE FOUND ME
TYPING ON MY PHONE,

00:31:50.367 --> 00:31:53.634
AND SHE THINKS OF THE
PHONE AS THE OTHER WOMAN,

00:31:53.734 --> 00:31:55.634
BECAUSE IT HAS
MY ATTENTION.

00:31:55.734 --> 00:31:58.034
AND SHE GAVE ME THAT LOOK
THAT ONLY YOUR WIFE IS

00:31:58.134 --> 00:32:01.400
ALLOWED TO GIVE YOU, LIKE DON'T
YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HELL?

00:32:01.500 --> 00:32:03.700
AND I SHOWED HER
WHAT I WAS TYPING.

00:32:03.800 --> 00:32:07.967
GO TO CHURCH, GET
DOUGHNUTS, BACON, SAUSAGE,

00:32:08.067 --> 00:32:09.833
HOT DOGS, ICE CREAM.


00:32:09.933 --> 00:32:14.867
THEY HAVE NO IDEA THEY ARE
SENDING PEOPLE TO HEAVEN EARLY.

00:32:14.967 --> 00:32:18.033
SAVE THEM, THEN KILL THEM.


00:32:18.133 --> 00:32:20.700
THIS IS NOT THE PLAN.


00:32:20.800 --> 00:32:23.467
AND I PRAYED THAT SUNDAY
GOD WOULD USE ME TO

00:32:23.567 --> 00:32:26.733
CHANGE THE CULTURE OF
FOOD AT CHURCH.

00:32:26.833 --> 00:32:28.334
AND WHILE I'M PRAYING
THAT, I'M LIKE,

00:32:28.434 --> 00:32:30.800
THIS IS THE DUMBEST PRAYER
YOU'VE EVER PRAYED.

00:32:30.900 --> 00:32:32.367
LIKE HOW IS THAT EVER
GOING TO HAPPEN?

00:32:32.433 --> 00:32:36.100
AND -- BUT I HAVE AN
ATTITUDE WITH GOD,

00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.167
AND I'M LIKE, IT'S MY
PRAYER, DEAL WITH IT.

00:32:39.267 --> 00:32:42.300
TWO WEEKS LATER, NO LIE,
THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENED,

00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.600
PASTOR RICK WARREN FROM
SADDLEBACK CHURCH CALLED ME.

00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:48.800
HE'S BEEN ON THE COVER OF<i>TIME
MAGAZINE</i> AS AMERICA'S PASTOR

00:32:48.900 --> 00:32:50.167
TWICE.


00:32:50.267 --> 00:32:53.966
AND HE SAID, I'M FAT,
MY CHURCH IS FAT,

00:32:54.066 --> 00:32:55.467
WILL YOU HELP ME?


00:32:55.567 --> 00:32:58.934
AND I'M LIKE, YOU
HAD ME FROM HELLO.

00:32:59.034 --> 00:33:00.767
AND WE CREATED
THE DANIEL PLAN,

00:33:00.867 --> 00:33:05.400
WHICH IS A PROGRAM TO GET THE
WORLD HEALTHY THROUGH CHURCHES.

00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:12.267
AND WHAT THAT TEACHES YOU
IS INTENTION AND PRAYER MATTER

00:33:12.367 --> 00:33:17.000
THAT SET YOUR MIND TO THINGS
THAT ARE NOT ABOUT YOU,

00:33:17.100 --> 00:33:20.467
BUT ABOUT WHY
GOD PUT YOU ON THE EARTH.

00:33:20.567 --> 00:33:22.733
AND IF YOU LIVE
WITH PURPOSE,

00:33:22.833 --> 00:33:25.567
YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO MUCH
HAPPIER THAN IF YOU LIVE

00:33:25.667 --> 00:33:29.400
WITH THE THOUGHT,
I AM NOT ENOUGH.

00:33:29.500 --> 00:33:33.934
BECAUSE COMPARED TO CHRIST,
EVERYBODY'S NOT ENOUGH.

00:33:34.034 --> 00:33:35.733
REBECCA: IT'S SO
INTERESTING, TOO,

00:33:35.833 --> 00:33:37.400
BECAUSE I WAS LISTENING
TO ANOTHER PODCAST,

00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:39.500
AND THEY WERE
TALKING ABOUT FASTING

00:33:39.600 --> 00:33:41.633
AND HOW IN
THE WEST IN AMERICA,

00:33:41.733 --> 00:33:43.400
THIS IS ALSO
SOMETHING WITH FOOD,

00:33:43.500 --> 00:33:45.400
WE DON'T
REALLY FAST,

00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:48.100
EVEN IN THE CHURCH AS MUCH
AS MAYBE CHRISTIANS

00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:49.600
IN OTHER PARTS
OF THE WORLD.

00:33:49.700 --> 00:33:52.033
IT'S NOT AS MUCH
APART OF OUR CULTURE,

00:33:52.133 --> 00:33:55.433
BUT HOW TAKING AWAY THAT FOOD
AND GOING THAT TIME

00:33:55.533 --> 00:33:57.967
WITHOUT FOOD, HOW IT
HELPS CLEAR THE MIND,

00:33:58.067 --> 00:34:01.367
IT OPENS YOUR SPIRIT UP
TO RECEIVE FROM THE LORD,

00:34:01.467 --> 00:34:05.100
WE REALLY HAVE MADE FOOD
IN THE WEST VERY MUCH LIKE

00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.100
A CRUTCH OF SUPPORT, AND A LOT
OF OUR FOOD IS NOT NATURAL,

00:34:09.200 --> 00:34:10.500
IT IS
ULTRA-PROCESSED,

00:34:10.600 --> 00:34:12.266
AND BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN RAISED IN IT,

00:34:12.366 --> 00:34:14.634
LIKE I'M FROM THE '90S, I
WAS LIKE -- WE WERE LIKE

00:34:14.734 --> 00:34:17.467
THE CHIEF PROCESSED FOOD,
IT WAS LIKE ALL WE EVER ATE,

00:34:17.567 --> 00:34:19.466
AND NOW THERE'S
BEEN LIKE AN AWAKENING,

00:34:19.566 --> 00:34:21.633
WE'RE LIKE, OH, MY
GOODNESS, THIS IS SO BAD.

00:34:21.733 --> 00:34:26.034
BUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FOOD
IS SO IMPORTANT OVERALL

00:34:26.134 --> 00:34:27.200
AS BELIEVERS.


00:34:27.300 --> 00:34:31.467
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ARE
SOME OF THE MAIN BIG NO'S?

00:34:31.567 --> 00:34:34.434
SO WITH SUGAR, ALL
KINDS OF SUGAR?

00:34:34.534 --> 00:34:36.667
DR. AMEN: WELL, HALF
THE POPULATION IS DIABETIC

00:34:36.767 --> 00:34:39.867
OR PRE-DIABETIC, AND IF YOU'RE
DIABETIC OR PRE-DIABETIC,

00:34:39.967 --> 00:34:42.233
THAT IS
REALLY BAD FOR YOUR BRAIN.

00:34:42.333 --> 00:34:43.267
AND SO --


00:34:43.367 --> 00:34:44.600
REBECCA: CAN YOU TALK
ABOUT WHAT IT DOES,

00:34:44.700 --> 00:34:45.867
THE DIABETES TO THE BRAIN?


00:34:45.967 --> 00:34:48.133
DR. AMEN: WELL, WHAT
DIABETES DOES IS IT MAKES

00:34:48.233 --> 00:34:51.167
YOUR BLOOD VESSELS, SO
THE HIGH BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS

00:34:51.267 --> 00:34:55.700
THAT ARE CHRONIC MAKES
YOUR BLOOD VESSELS LESS PLIABLE.

00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.366
THEY BECOME BRITTLE AND
MORE LIKELY TO BREAK.

00:34:59.466 --> 00:35:00.900
REBECCA: OH, GOSH.


00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:04.933
DR. AMEN: SO IT'S A HIGHER RISK
FOR HEART DISEASE, FOR STROKES.

00:35:05.033 --> 00:35:07.600
AND YOU GET WOUNDS
THAT JUST WON'T HEAL

00:35:07.700 --> 00:35:11.933
BECAUSE IT WON'T GET PROPER
NUTRIENTS, BLOODFLOW.

00:35:12.033 --> 00:35:18.966
AND I AVOID SUGAR AND THINGS
THAT QUICKLY TURN TO SUGAR;

00:35:19.066 --> 00:35:24.100
BREAD, PASTA, POTATOES, RICE,
FRUIT JUICE, SUGAR.

00:35:24.200 --> 00:35:25.566
FRUIT JUICE IS
THE ENEMY, RIGHT.

00:35:25.666 --> 00:35:28.333
IF I WANT TO POST SOMETHING
AND JUST GET A LOT OF HATE,

00:35:28.433 --> 00:35:29.733
RIGHT, I'LL
POST ABOUT MARIJUANA

00:35:29.833 --> 00:35:32.600
AND GET A LOT OF HATE,
POST ABOUT FRUIT JUICE,

00:35:32.700 --> 00:35:36.566
ISN'T THAT GOOD FOR YOU,
IT'S LIKE WHEN IS IT RATIONAL

00:35:36.666 --> 00:35:40.600
TO UNWRAP FRUIT SUGAR
FROM ITS FIBER SOURCE

00:35:40.700 --> 00:35:44.033
AND IT'S LIKE,
EAT THE ORANGE.

00:35:44.133 --> 00:35:47.134
DON'T DRINK THE JUICE
OF FOUR ORANGES.

00:35:47.234 --> 00:35:51.867
IT'S NOT RATIONAL,
IT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOU.

00:35:51.967 --> 00:35:52.767
REBECCA: SO
I LIKE THAT.

00:35:52.867 --> 00:35:56.167
SO YOU FOCUS ON
THE GLUCOSE SPIKES

00:35:56.267 --> 00:35:59.366
AND KEEPING YOUR BLOOD SUGAR
MORE EVEN, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN

00:35:59.466 --> 00:36:01.466
KEEP YOUR BLOOD SUGAR
MORE EVEN,

00:36:01.566 --> 00:36:03.467
YOU'RE NOT
STRESSING OUT YOUR INSULIN,

00:36:03.567 --> 00:36:06.667
INSULIN RESISTANCE CAUSES
ALL SORTS OF TYPE OF DISEASES.

00:36:06.767 --> 00:36:09.633
AND SO IT'S FOCUSING NOT
JUST LIKE ON CANE SUGAR

00:36:09.733 --> 00:36:12.233
BUT REALLY EATING IT AWAY WHERE
YOU'RE NOT SPIKING YOUR SUGAR

00:36:12.333 --> 00:36:15.100
ALL THE TIME
AND EATING REALLY MUCH ALL

00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:18.000
-- EVEN EATING TOO OFTEN OR
SPIKING THAT CONSISTENTLY

00:36:18.100 --> 00:36:20.434
THROUGHOUT THE DAY
CAUSES PROBLEMS.

00:36:20.534 --> 00:36:21.600
DR. AMEN: YES.


00:36:21.700 --> 00:36:23.133
AND TALKING ABOUT FASTING,
INTERMITTENT FASTING IS

00:36:23.233 --> 00:36:26.234
REALLY GREAT FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE TO MANAGE THEIR WEIGHT.

00:36:26.334 --> 00:36:32.234
EATING THREE TIMES A DAY,
THAT IS NOT NECESSARY.

00:36:32.334 --> 00:36:37.500
THAT IS BECAUSE OF MARKETING
AND THE CEREAL COMPANIES.

00:36:37.600 --> 00:36:38.833
IT'S LIKE, OH,
FOR BREAKFAST,

00:36:38.933 --> 00:36:40.934
HAVE A HEALTHY BREAKFAST;
WHEATIES:

00:36:41.034 --> 00:36:43.500
THE BREAKFAST OF DIABETES,


00:36:43.600 --> 00:36:45.867
WHICH IS
WHAT IT IS, RIGHT.

00:36:45.967 --> 00:36:50.066
OR MY WIFE TALKS ABOUT
GROWING UP WITH HER BEST FRIENDS

00:36:50.166 --> 00:36:55.000
WERE TONY THE TIGER, CAPTAIN,
AND THE LEPRECHAUN.

00:36:55.100 --> 00:36:56.300
[ LAUGHING ]


00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.500
DR. AMEN: AND IT'S LIKE HER
GRANDMOTHER HAD DIABETES.

00:36:59.600 --> 00:37:01.567
IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE
THIS IN YOUR FAMILY,

00:37:01.667 --> 00:37:04.133
YOU NEED TO BE SERIOUS.


00:37:04.233 --> 00:37:06.900
AND SO BOTH OF US.


00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.467
WE'RE A CONTINUOUS
GLUCOSE MONITOR,

00:37:09.567 --> 00:37:15.667
JUST REMINDS YOU OF, OH,
I HAD RICE WITH THAT ONE MEAL,

00:37:15.767 --> 00:37:18.200
AND NOW MY
BLOOD SUGAR'S 155.

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:21.366
IT'S LIKE, MM,
LET'S NOT DO THAT.

00:37:21.466 --> 00:37:22.500
OR CHERRIES.


00:37:22.600 --> 00:37:24.333
LIKE I LOVE CHERRIES.


00:37:24.433 --> 00:37:25.734
BUT THEY DON'T LOVE ME.


00:37:25.834 --> 00:37:27.433
THEY SPIKE MY BLOOD SUGAR.


00:37:27.533 --> 00:37:29.134
BLUEBERRIES AND
RASPBERRIES DON'T DO THAT.

00:37:29.234 --> 00:37:30.500
REBECCA: WOW.


00:37:30.600 --> 00:37:32.400
THAT IS SO INTERESTING.


00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:35.400
WHAT ARE SOME OTHER BIG
NO'S FOR THE BRAIN?

00:37:35.500 --> 00:37:37.533
DR. AMEN: HITTING
SOCCER BALLS WITH YOUR HEAD,

00:37:37.633 --> 00:37:40.866
ALLOWING YOUR CHILDREN
TO PLAY CONTACT SPORTS.

00:37:40.966 --> 00:37:46.666
NOW, I'M A HUGE FAN OF
TENNIS, TABLE TENNIS,

00:37:46.766 --> 00:37:51.300
PICKLEBALL, GOLF,
GOLF IS GOOD.

00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.633
FOOTBALL, BAD
FOR THE BRAIN.

00:37:53.733 --> 00:37:57.433
I DID THE BIG NFL STUDY
WHEN THE NFL WAS LYING.

00:37:57.533 --> 00:38:00.767
IT HAD A PROBLEM WITH TRAUMATIC
BRAIN INJURY IN FOOTBALL

00:38:00.867 --> 00:38:03.700
AT HIGH
LEVELS OF DAMAGE.

00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.433
BUT 80% OF MY PLAYERS
GET BETTER

00:38:05.533 --> 00:38:08.033
WHEN WE PUT THEM ON A
REHABILITATION PROGRAM.

00:38:08.133 --> 00:38:12.767
BUT IF MY CHILD SAID, SO I
WAS AT A BIG CONFERENCE,

00:38:12.867 --> 00:38:14.534
AND THIS BILLIONAIRE
WAS THERE,

00:38:14.634 --> 00:38:16.934
AND HEARD ME TALK
IT, AND HE SAID,

00:38:17.034 --> 00:38:19.300
BUT MY CHILD REALLY
WANTS TO PLAY.

00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.900
IN FACT, I HIRED HIM A
FORMER NFL PLAYER AS A COACH.

00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.567
AND I'M LIKE, BUT WHAT IF
YOUR CHILD REALLY WANTED

00:38:26.667 --> 00:38:28.433
TO DO COCAINE?


00:38:28.533 --> 00:38:32.134
WOULD YOU HIRE THE BEST
DRUG DEALER FOR HIM?

00:38:32.234 --> 00:38:35.000
BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF
DAMAGE FROM FOOTBALL

00:38:35.100 --> 00:38:41.433
IS ABOUT THE SAME AS THE DAMAGE
I'VE SEEN ON SCANS FROM COCAINE.

00:38:41.533 --> 00:38:46.067
YOUR BRAIN IS SOFT, ABOUT
THE CONSISTENCY OF SOFT BUTTER.

00:38:46.167 --> 00:38:50.900
YOUR SKULL IS REALLY HARD
AND HAS SHARP BONE AVERAGES.

00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.800
MILD TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY
IS A MAJOR CAUSE

00:38:54.900 --> 00:38:56.900
OF PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS.


00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.433
AND NOBODY
KNOWS ABOUT IT

00:38:58.533 --> 00:39:02.034
BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GENERALLY
LOOK AT THE BRAIN.

00:39:02.134 --> 00:39:06.433
AND SO IF I HAD
CHILDREN TODAY,

00:39:06.533 --> 00:39:08.667
I WOULD HAVE A PING-PONG
TABLE AT HOME,

00:39:08.767 --> 00:39:10.600
I'D PLAY WITH
THEM EVERY DAY,

00:39:10.700 --> 00:39:13.533
I WOULD GET THEM A COACH,
I WOULD HELP THEM GET GOOD,

00:39:13.633 --> 00:39:16.667
BECAUSE THAT
SKILL IS AMAZING.

00:39:16.767 --> 00:39:19.600
I WOULD NOT LET THEM
PLAY A CONTACT SPORT.

00:39:19.700 --> 00:39:20.866
BECAUSE I LOVE THEM.


00:39:20.966 --> 00:39:23.467
BUT WHAT IF
THEY WANTED TO?

00:39:23.567 --> 00:39:26.766
THAT'S WHY GOD GAVE YOU
PARENTS SO THAT YOU COULD

00:39:26.866 --> 00:39:30.667
HAVE DIRECTION
ON THEIR DECISIONS

00:39:30.767 --> 00:39:32.633
UNTIL THEIR BRAIN
IS FULLY DEVELOPED.

00:39:32.733 --> 00:39:34.966
AND OH, BY THE WAY,
IT'S NOT FULLY DEVELOPED

00:39:35.066 --> 00:39:36.400
UNTIL THEY'RE 25.


00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:38.166
REBECCA:
OH, MY GOODNESS.

00:39:38.266 --> 00:39:39.267
OKAY.


00:39:39.367 --> 00:39:40.567
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT,

00:39:40.667 --> 00:39:43.133
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW,

00:39:43.233 --> 00:39:45.400
IS DOPAMINE,
AND DOPAMINE HITS

00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:50.833
AND HOW WITH SOCIAL MEDIA
AND THE WAY SOCIETY IS SET UP

00:39:50.933 --> 00:39:54.200
THESE DAYS IS WE'RE TAKING
THESE DOPAMINE HITS ALL DAY.

00:39:54.300 --> 00:39:57.266
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT
THE MIND, THE BRAIN?

00:39:57.366 --> 00:39:59.166
DR. AMEN: WELL, YOU'RE
BEING THRILLED TO DEATH.

00:39:59.266 --> 00:40:04.033
IN FACT, IT'S ACTUALLY
DEADENING THE AREA OF THE BRAIN

00:40:04.133 --> 00:40:05.666
THAT RESPONDS
TO DOPAMINE,

00:40:05.766 --> 00:40:08.133
AND IT'S CALLED THE
NUCLEUS ACCUMBENS,

00:40:08.233 --> 00:40:12.433
AND IF YOU'RE CONSTANTLY
ON YOUR SMARTPHONE,

00:40:12.533 --> 00:40:14.400
IF YOU'RE LOOKING
AT PORNOGRAPHY,

00:40:14.500 --> 00:40:16.866
IF YOU'RE SCROLLING
SOCIAL MEDIA,

00:40:16.966 --> 00:40:21.267
IF YOU'RE CHRONICALLY
SHOPPING, IT'S DOPAMINE,

00:40:21.367 --> 00:40:24.500
DOPAMINE, DOPAMINE,
DOPAMINE,

00:40:24.600 --> 00:40:27.400
AND IT STARTS TO
DEADEN THAT AREA,

00:40:27.500 --> 00:40:34.534
AND THEN YOU BEGIN TO NEED
MORE TO FEEL ANYTHING AT ALL.

00:40:34.634 --> 00:40:37.033
SO LIKE AN
ADDICTION, PEOPLE,

00:40:37.133 --> 00:40:39.100
ONCE THEY'RE ADDICTED
TO SOMETHING,

00:40:39.200 --> 00:40:41.033
THEY'RE NOT
CHASING THE HIGH.

00:40:41.133 --> 00:40:44.167
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE
TRYING TO PREVENT THE LOW.

00:40:44.267 --> 00:40:50.767
AND THIS CONSTANT
DOPAMINE-DUMPING

00:40:50.867 --> 00:40:52.767
IS WEARING OUT THEIR
PLEASURE CENTER,

00:40:52.867 --> 00:40:59.267
IT'S MAKING THEM AT GREATER RISK
FOR ANXIETY, DEPRESSION,

00:40:59.367 --> 00:41:01.833
ADDICTION, OVEREATING.


00:41:01.933 --> 00:41:04.534
REBECCA: IS THERE A WAY
TO COMBAT IF YOU HAVE

00:41:04.634 --> 00:41:06.567
AN OVERDOING THE
DOPAMINE HITS,

00:41:06.667 --> 00:41:09.900
IS THERE A WAY TO DETOX
FROM THAT AND RESET?

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:11.267
DR. AMEN: YEAH.


00:41:11.367 --> 00:41:14.300
IT'S LIKE GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY
AND DON'T GIVE KIDS SMARTPHONES

00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.500
UNTIL THEY CAN
PAY FOR THEM THEMSELVES.

00:41:17.600 --> 00:41:19.167
AND I HAD THIS EXAMPLE.


00:41:19.267 --> 00:41:22.167
WHEN MY GRANDSON,
WHEN MY OLDEST ONE,

00:41:22.267 --> 00:41:24.267
WAS NINE MONTHS OLD,
HE FIGURED OUT HOW TO WORK

00:41:24.367 --> 00:41:26.000
HIS PARENTS' SMARTPHONE.


00:41:26.100 --> 00:41:30.367
AND THEN EVERY TIME I'M
WITH HIM UNTIL HE'S 5, PHONE.

00:41:30.467 --> 00:41:31.167
POP POP, PHONE.


00:41:31.434 --> 00:41:32.466
POP POP, PHONE.


00:41:32.566 --> 00:41:34.300
I'M LIKE, NO, WE'RE NOT
PLAYING WITH THE PHONE.

00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:35.567
WE'RE PLAYING
WITH EACH OTHER.

00:41:35.667 --> 00:41:36.600
POP POP, PHONE.


00:41:36.700 --> 00:41:38.433
AND I'M LIKE, NO.


00:41:38.533 --> 00:41:39.767
REBECCA: IS
IT NOT CRAZY?

00:41:39.867 --> 00:41:41.533
DR. AMEN: LIKE
DON'T ASK ME AGAIN.

00:41:41.633 --> 00:41:42.633
NO.


00:41:42.733 --> 00:41:45.400
AND I HAVE A RULE, BECAUSE
YOU HAVE THREE CHILDREN?

00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:46.134
REBECCA: I HAVE THREE.


00:41:46.234 --> 00:41:46.800
DR. AMEN:
HERE'S A RULE.

00:41:46.900 --> 00:41:48.033
YOU'LL LOVE THIS RULE.


00:41:48.133 --> 00:41:50.200
IF YOU HAVE A TANTRUM
TO GET YOUR WAY,

00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:51.733
THE ANSWER IS NO.


00:41:51.833 --> 00:41:54.066
IT'S ALWAYS
GOING TO BE NO.

00:41:54.166 --> 00:41:55.867
GO AHEAD, THROW
THE TANTRUM.

00:41:55.967 --> 00:41:57.834
AND BE EXCITED ABOUT IT.


00:41:57.934 --> 00:42:02.300
BUT THEN YOU AND YOUR
HUSBAND ALWAYS HAVE TO SAY NO

00:42:02.367 --> 00:42:06.667
AND NEVER REINFORCE
THE TANTRUM AS A WAY TO

00:42:06.767 --> 00:42:10.933
GET OUT OF
AN EMBARRASSING SITUATION.

00:42:11.033 --> 00:42:12.667
YOU HAVE IT,
THE ANSWER'S NO.

00:42:12.767 --> 00:42:14.733
AND KIDS LEARN QUICKLY.


00:42:14.833 --> 00:42:19.366
OH, I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING
THERE EXCEPT CONSEQUENCES.

00:42:19.466 --> 00:42:21.433
REBECCA: SO ANYTHING
ON THE SMARTPHONE,

00:42:21.533 --> 00:42:23.334
BECAUSE LIKE THE REASON
WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE

00:42:23.434 --> 00:42:25.100
MY KIDS KNOW HOW TO
USE THE PHONE.

00:42:25.200 --> 00:42:26.267
WELL, NOT MY
BABY, OBVIOUSLY,

00:42:26.367 --> 00:42:28.633
BUT LIKE MY TODDLER,
HE'S ALMOST 3,

00:42:28.733 --> 00:42:30.967
HE KNOWS HOW TO USE THE
PHONE, AND I'VE SEEN THAT.

00:42:31.067 --> 00:42:32.900
I'VE SEEN -- AND I
USED TO BE LIKE, OKAY,

00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.367
WE CAN'T WATCH
ANYTHING ON MY PHONE,

00:42:34.467 --> 00:42:36.000
BUT LIKE I HAVE SPOTIFY,
SO I'LL BE LIKE,

00:42:36.100 --> 00:42:38.400
YOU CAN LISTEN TO SONGS, BECAUSE
HE'S NOT LOOKING AT THE PHONE.

00:42:38.500 --> 00:42:40.633
BUT WHAT I REALIZE IS
I CAN'T GIVE IT TO HIM

00:42:40.733 --> 00:42:42.900
BECAUSE HE WOULD SIT THERE
AND HE WOULD CLICK

00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.800
NEXT, NEXT, NEXT, AND
THAT'S THAT SAME DOPAMINE HIT.

00:42:45.900 --> 00:42:47.600
SO WHAT, RIGHT,
THAT'S A DOPAMINE HIT?

00:42:47.700 --> 00:42:48.667
DR. AMEN: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:42:48.767 --> 00:42:49.400
REBECCA: AND THAT'S
WHAT THEY'RE ADDICTED TO.

00:42:49.500 --> 00:42:50.034
DR. AMEN: RIGHT.


00:42:50.134 --> 00:42:51.300
REBECCA: IT'S AWFUL.


00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.500
DR. AMEN: AND THEY WERE
CREATED SPECIFICALLY TO DO THAT

00:42:54.600 --> 00:42:58.733
SO THAT THESE DEVICES
WOULD GET MINDSHARE.

00:42:58.833 --> 00:43:02.734
AND YOU DON'T WANT
GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK

00:43:02.834 --> 00:43:05.400
BECAUSE THEY'VE SHOWN
THAT THEY'RE EVIL.

00:43:05.500 --> 00:43:06.533
[ CHUCKLES ]


00:43:06.633 --> 00:43:07.900
REBECCA: I'VE
HEARD ABOUT THIS.

00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:11.467
LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED IT
DON'T USE IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW.

00:43:11.567 --> 00:43:12.334
DR. AMEN: AND THEY
DON'T LET THEIR KIDS USE IT.

00:43:12.434 --> 00:43:12.934
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:43:13.034 --> 00:43:14.134
SO WHY ARE WE?


00:43:14.234 --> 00:43:16.400
DR. AMEN: AND THEY GO
ON DOPAMINE FASTS ALL THE TIME

00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:18.200
BECAUSE WE'RE SHEEP.


00:43:18.300 --> 00:43:21.400
IN MY BOOK,
<i>BRAIN WARRIOR'S WAY</i> ,

00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:26.634
I TALK ABOUT, ARE YOU A
SHEEP OR A SHEEPDOG OR A WOLF?

00:43:26.734 --> 00:43:30.366
AND SO COCA-COLA'S
CLEARLY A WOLF, RIGHT.

00:43:30.466 --> 00:43:32.100
GOOGLE IS A WOLF.


00:43:32.200 --> 00:43:37.666
BUT 98% OF OUR
SOCIETY ARE SHEEP.

00:43:37.766 --> 00:43:39.500
AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WELL,
EVERYBODY'S DOING IT,

00:43:39.600 --> 00:43:41.334
SO WE SHOULD DO IT.


00:43:41.434 --> 00:43:45.533
SHEEP ARE EASILY LED, AND
THEY GO WITH THE HERD.

00:43:45.633 --> 00:43:48.367
SHEEPDOGS,
THEY'RE FOCUSED.

00:43:48.467 --> 00:43:50.300
THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION.


00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.067
AND THE SHEEP OFTEN
DON'T LIKE THE SHEEPDOGS

00:43:54.167 --> 00:43:56.733
BECAUSE THEY'RE
KEEPING THEM IN LINE.

00:43:56.833 --> 00:44:01.334
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE GO, I
CAN'T HAVE ORANGE JUICE?

00:44:01.434 --> 00:44:03.000
AND IT'S LIKE, NOT NEVER.


00:44:03.100 --> 00:44:06.333
BUT DON'T MAKE THAT
PART OF YOUR LIFE

00:44:06.433 --> 00:44:08.967
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE
DIABETES, AND THEY'RE CALLING

00:44:09.067 --> 00:44:12.166
ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE
TYPE III DIABETES

00:44:12.266 --> 00:44:16.834
BECAUSE HIGH BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS
LEAD TO BRAIN DISRUPTION.

00:44:16.934 --> 00:44:18.367
REBECCA: I FEEL LIKE
MOST -- A LOT OF DISEASES

00:44:18.467 --> 00:44:22.100
ARE COMING FROM THE
INSULIN-RESISTANCE AND
INFLAMMATION.

00:44:22.200 --> 00:44:24.133
A LOT OF DISEASES ARE
CONNECTED TO THAT.

00:44:24.233 --> 00:44:26.500
AND THERE IS SUCH A HIGH,
NOT ONLY HAS THERE BEEN

00:44:26.600 --> 00:44:28.400
A MASSIVE INCREASE
IN DIABETES,

00:44:28.500 --> 00:44:31.633
THERE'S BEEN A MASSIVE INCREASE
IN ALZHEIMER'S COMPARATIVELY.

00:44:31.733 --> 00:44:33.467
AND SO WE SHOULD
LOOK AT THIS AND SAY,

00:44:33.567 --> 00:44:34.967
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?


00:44:35.067 --> 00:44:35.933
DR. AMEN:
AND DEPRESSION,

00:44:36.033 --> 00:44:38.533
WHICH MANY PEOPLE
THINK IS INFLAMMATORY,

00:44:38.633 --> 00:44:41.134
IS YOUR EMOTIONAL
SYSTEM IS INFLAMED,

00:44:41.234 --> 00:44:43.000
AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SAD.


00:44:43.100 --> 00:44:44.034
REBECCA: WOW.


00:44:44.134 --> 00:44:46.067
DR. AMEN:
KILLING THE SUGAR

00:44:46.167 --> 00:44:53.100
AND FOODS THAT TURN TO SUGAR;
AND THEN OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS,

00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:57.500
ANTI-INFLAMMATORY;
CURCUMENS FROM TURMERIC,

00:44:57.600 --> 00:45:00.633
ANTI-INFLAMMATORY;
FLOSSING YOUR TEETH,

00:45:00.733 --> 00:45:04.333
ANTI-INFLAMMATORY; GETTING
YOUR GUT HEALTHY WITH FIBER,

00:45:04.433 --> 00:45:08.566
ANTI-INFLAMMATORY; NOT
EATING FOODS WITH PESTICIDES,

00:45:08.666 --> 00:45:10.200
ANTI-INFLAMMATORY.


00:45:10.300 --> 00:45:11.667
REBECCA: WOW.


00:45:11.767 --> 00:45:13.966
THAT IS WILD.


00:45:14.066 --> 00:45:15.767
HOW DO YOU DO A
DOPAMINE FAST?

00:45:15.867 --> 00:45:18.534
DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT
TO YOUR PATIENTS?

00:45:18.634 --> 00:45:22.300
DR. AMEN: I THINK YOU SHOULD BE
AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE CONSUMING

00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:23.467
AND --


00:45:23.567 --> 00:45:24.933
REBECCA: BECAUSE IT
CONTROLS YOUR LIFE.

00:45:25.033 --> 00:45:26.534
THAT'S WHAT I STARTED
SEEING WITH MYSELF,

00:45:26.634 --> 00:45:29.767
WITH THE DOPAMINE HITS,
YOU BECOME LIKE WIRED FOR IT.

00:45:29.867 --> 00:45:31.933
AND I WAS LIKE, THIS
IS AFFECTING ME,

00:45:32.033 --> 00:45:33.733
AND I DON'T LIKE
THE EFFECTS OF IT.

00:45:33.833 --> 00:45:36.367
I FEEL LIKE ALMOST --
YOU FEEL LIKE A PRISONER.

00:45:36.467 --> 00:45:38.300
DR. AMEN: WELL, I THINK YOU
SHOULD TAKE AN INVENTORY

00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:42.267
OF WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU'RE
DOING THAT INCREASE DOPAMINE.

00:45:42.367 --> 00:45:46.900
AND JUST ASK YOURSELF,
GOOD FOR MY BRAIN OR BAD FOR IT?

00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:48.967
AND SO THE
NON-STOP SCROLLING,

00:45:49.067 --> 00:45:49.900
BAD FOR YOUR BRAIN.


00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.967
IT'S REALLY CLEAR.


00:45:53.067 --> 00:45:54.866
GOOD FOR MY BRAIN
OR BAD FOR IT.

00:45:54.966 --> 00:45:55.600
RIGHT.


00:45:55.700 --> 00:45:57.000
THAT'S THE
MOTHER QUESTION.

00:45:57.100 --> 00:45:59.367
I WORKED WITH
BJ FOGG FOR SIX MONTHS.

00:45:59.467 --> 00:46:02.600
HE RUNS THE PERSUASIVE
TECHNOLOGY LAB AT STANFORD

00:46:02.700 --> 00:46:04.067
ON HOW PEOPLE CHANGE.


00:46:04.167 --> 00:46:05.400
REBECCA: WOW.


00:46:05.500 --> 00:46:09.600
DR. AMEN: AND HE SAID, MAKE
THE HABITS AS SMALL AS YOU CAN.

00:46:09.700 --> 00:46:14.266
AND SO WHENEVER YOU COME
TO A DECISION POINT IN YOUR DAY,

00:46:14.366 --> 00:46:18.000
IS THIS GOOD FOR
MY BRAIN OR BAD FOR IT?

00:46:18.100 --> 00:46:19.867
JUST LIKE CHLOE'S GAME
THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DOING

00:46:19.967 --> 00:46:21.233
WITH THE KIDS.


00:46:21.333 --> 00:46:26.900
BUT I THINK IF YOU CAN ANSWER
THAT WITH INFORMATION AND LOVE,

00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.166
LOVE OF YOURSELF,


00:46:28.266 --> 00:46:30.267
LOVE OF YOUR
FAMILY, LOVE OF GOD,

00:46:30.367 --> 00:46:32.667
LOVE THE REASON GOD
PUT YOU ON EARTH,

00:46:32.767 --> 00:46:35.500
YOU JUST START MAKING
BETTER DECISIONS.

00:46:35.600 --> 00:46:37.800
REBECCA: WHAT ARE SOME THINGS
YOU SAY ARE GOOD FOR YOUR BRAIN

00:46:37.900 --> 00:46:40.400
THAT YOU
RECOMMEND YOUR PATIENTS TO DO?

00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:42.733
DR. AMEN: NEW LEARNING.


00:46:42.833 --> 00:46:46.334
MY FAVORITE THING, SO LET'S JUST
GO TO MY NUMBER ONE HABIT

00:46:46.434 --> 00:46:47.666
THAT I DO EVERY DAY,


00:46:47.766 --> 00:46:51.200
IS WHEN I GO TO BED AT
NIGHT, I SAY A PRAYER,

00:46:51.300 --> 00:46:53.700
AND THEN I GO, WHAT
WENT WELL TODAY?

00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.600
AND I START AT THE BEGINNING OF
MY DAY WHEN I WOKE UP,

00:46:58.700 --> 00:47:03.133
AND I'M LIKE, I
GO HOUR BY HOUR LOOKING AT

00:47:03.233 --> 00:47:06.000
WHAT I LIKED
ABOUT THE DAY.

00:47:06.100 --> 00:47:08.167
AND I HAVE ALL SORTS OF
AWESOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN

00:47:08.267 --> 00:47:12.133
THROUGHOUT MY DAY AND I JUST
GLOSS OVER IT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE,

00:47:12.233 --> 00:47:12.766
NEXT.


00:47:12.866 --> 00:47:13.800
NEXT, NEXT.


00:47:13.900 --> 00:47:17.966
IT'S JUST A TIME
TO SAVOR THE DAY.

00:47:18.066 --> 00:47:20.866
AND IF A BAD
THING SHOWS UP,

00:47:20.966 --> 00:47:22.867
IMAGINE A BIG BROOM
AND SWEEP IT AWAY.

00:47:22.967 --> 00:47:24.367
LIKE, DEAL WITH
YOU TOMORROW.

00:47:24.467 --> 00:47:26.333
NOT DEALING WITH YOU NOW.


00:47:26.433 --> 00:47:30.066
NOW IS WHAT WENT WELL.


00:47:30.166 --> 00:47:33.633
AND PEOPLE WHO DO THAT NOTICE
A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE

00:47:33.733 --> 00:47:37.034
IN HAPPINESS
IN JUST THREE WEEKS.

00:47:37.134 --> 00:47:38.466
BUT MAKE IT A HABIT.


00:47:38.566 --> 00:47:40.867
SO I'VE BEEN DOING
THIS FOR TEN YEARS.

00:47:40.967 --> 00:47:48.633
AND FIVE YEARS AGO, YEAH,
FIVE YEARS AGO, MY DAD DIED.

00:47:48.733 --> 00:47:53.600
AND IT WAS THE WORST
DAY OF MY ADULT LIFE.

00:47:53.700 --> 00:47:58.500
AND WHEN I WENT TO BED
THAT NIGHT, I'M LIKE,

00:47:58.600 --> 00:48:01.300
SAID A PRAYER AND I WENT,
WHAT WENT WELL TODAY?

00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:05.467
AND HERMY, THE VOICE IN
MY HEAD, GOES, SERIOUSLY?

00:48:05.567 --> 00:48:06.967
WE'RE DOING THAT TODAY?


00:48:07.067 --> 00:48:09.967
YOU ARE SUCH AN EVIL HUMAN BEING
THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT

00:48:10.067 --> 00:48:12.066
THE DAY
YOUR FATHER DIED.

00:48:12.166 --> 00:48:16.234
BUT BECAUSE IT'S MY HABIT,
MY BRAIN WENT TO AN INTERACTION

00:48:16.334 --> 00:48:18.900
BETWEEN MY
MOTHER AND THE POLICE OFFICER,

00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:20.433
AND IT
WAS HYSTERICAL.

00:48:20.533 --> 00:48:25.333
SHE'S LIKE, BECAUSE THE
POLICE OFFICER I KNEW SAID,

00:48:25.433 --> 00:48:26.767
WE HAVE TO DO
AN INVESTIGATION,

00:48:26.867 --> 00:48:28.200
BECAUSE HE DIED AT HOME.


00:48:28.300 --> 00:48:30.367
AND SHE GOES, DO YOU
THINK I KILLED HIM?

00:48:30.467 --> 00:48:32.900
DO YOU THINK I
HAVE A BOYFRIEND?

00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.067
AND IT WAS SO FUNNY.


00:48:35.167 --> 00:48:36.867
AND I JUST -- I
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT,

00:48:36.967 --> 00:48:40.100
AND THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT ALL
THE TEXTS I GOT FROM MY FRIENDS

00:48:40.200 --> 00:48:42.267
WHO LOVE ME
AND LOVED MY DAD,

00:48:42.367 --> 00:48:44.700
AND THEN I REMEMBER JUST
HOLDING HIS HAND

00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:46.400
BEFORE THE MORTUARY
TOOK HIM AWAY,

00:48:46.500 --> 00:48:48.367
AND IT WAS JUST SO SOFT.


00:48:48.467 --> 00:48:49.967
AND THEN I WENT TO SLEEP.


00:48:50.067 --> 00:48:51.566
REBECCA: WOW.


00:48:51.666 --> 00:48:53.267
DR. AMEN: AND IT DIDN'T
MEAN I DIDN'T GRIEVE.

00:48:53.367 --> 00:48:54.367
I STILL GRIEVE.


00:48:54.467 --> 00:48:56.500
DIDN'T MEAN I DIDN'T LOVE
HIM, I STILL LOVE HIM.

00:48:56.600 --> 00:49:01.834
BUT I'M MANAGING MY MIND
THROUGH THE HABITS I ENGAGE IN

00:49:01.934 --> 00:49:03.200
DAY IN AND DAY OUT,


00:49:03.300 --> 00:49:08.267
ARE THESE GOOD FOR MY
BRAIN OR BAD FOR IT?

00:49:08.367 --> 00:49:09.633
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

00:49:09.733 --> 00:49:14.067
YOU ALSO WROTE A BOOK ON RAISING
THE MENTALLY STRONG KIDS.

00:49:14.167 --> 00:49:17.167
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR, BECAUSE
I HAVE THREE SMALL CHILDREN,

00:49:17.267 --> 00:49:19.800
LIKE MAYBE SOME OF YOU THINK
THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS

00:49:19.900 --> 00:49:22.167
PARENTS SHOULD BE
DOING FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

00:49:22.267 --> 00:49:23.400
DR. AMEN:
SO NUMBER ONE,

00:49:23.500 --> 00:49:26.500
YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND
CREATE GOALS.

00:49:26.600 --> 00:49:30.300
WHAT KIND OF PARENTS
DO WE WANT TO BE

00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:33.134
AND WHAT KIND OF CHILDREN
DO WE WANT TO RAISE?

00:49:33.234 --> 00:49:39.400
BECAUSE EVERYTHING FLOWS FROM
INTENTION, FIRST THING.

00:49:39.500 --> 00:49:43.400
SECOND THING, BONDING.


00:49:43.500 --> 00:49:46.500
IF YOU WANT TO RAISE
MENTALLY STRONG KIDS,

00:49:46.600 --> 00:49:48.500
THEY HAVE TO BE ATTACHED.


00:49:48.600 --> 00:49:52.667
AND IF YOU'RE AN
INFLUENCE ON THEM,

00:49:52.767 --> 00:49:53.634
IF YOU'RE BONDED
WITH THEM,

00:49:53.734 --> 00:49:55.500
THEY'RE GOING TO
PICK YOUR VALUES.

00:49:55.600 --> 00:49:59.067
AND SO TIME, ACTUAL
PHYSICAL TIME,

00:49:59.167 --> 00:50:01.166
JUST 20 MINUTES A DAY.


00:50:01.266 --> 00:50:03.700
YOU HAVE THREE, SO
THAT COULD BE A LOT,

00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.800
BUT AT LEAST 10 MINUTES
A DAY THAT INDIVIDUALLY

00:50:06.900 --> 00:50:09.166
THAT'S THEIR
TIME WITH MOMMY,

00:50:09.266 --> 00:50:11.167
THAT'S THEIR
TIME WITH DADDY.

00:50:11.267 --> 00:50:14.234
AND DURING THAT TIME,
NO COMMANDS, NO QUESTIONS,

00:50:14.334 --> 00:50:15.300
NO DIRECTIONS.


00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:16.634
IT'S NOT TIME
TO TEACH THEM,

00:50:16.734 --> 00:50:18.234
IT'S NOT TIME
TO CORRECT THEM.

00:50:18.334 --> 00:50:21.466
IT'S JUST TIME TO
BE IN THEIR SPACE.

00:50:21.566 --> 00:50:23.366
AND THEN
ACTIVELY LISTENING.

00:50:23.466 --> 00:50:26.167
I WANT YOU TO PRACTICE
WHEN THEY SAY SOMETHING,

00:50:26.267 --> 00:50:28.833
JUST REPEAT BACK
WHAT THEY SAY

00:50:28.933 --> 00:50:31.800
AND STOP TELLING THEM
HOW TO THINK.

00:50:31.900 --> 00:50:36.800
BUT LET THEM TALK THROUGH
THEIR OWN PROBLEMS.

00:50:36.900 --> 00:50:37.766
ACTIVE LISTENING.


00:50:37.866 --> 00:50:41.233
TIME AND ACTIVE
LISTENING, GAMECHANGING.

00:50:41.333 --> 00:50:44.433
AND THEN I THINK IT'S GOOD
TO HAVE RULES AT HOME.

00:50:44.533 --> 00:50:47.200
THE BRAIN NEEDS STRUCTURE
LIKE WE TREAT EACH OTHER

00:50:47.300 --> 00:50:49.634
WITH RESPECT,
TELL THE TRUTH.

00:50:49.734 --> 00:50:52.000
IF YOU TAKE SOMETHING
OUT, PUT IT AWAY.

00:50:52.100 --> 00:50:55.067
THE KIDS WHO
WORK AS CHILDREN

00:50:55.167 --> 00:50:57.100
HAVE THE BEST
SELF-ESTEEM AS ADULTS.

00:50:57.200 --> 00:50:57.900
REBECCA:
I'VE HEARD THAT.

00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.000
DR. AMEN: YEAH.


00:50:59.100 --> 00:51:01.267
SO DON'T DO
TOO MUCH FOR THEM

00:51:01.367 --> 00:51:04.400
AND ALWAYS LOOK FOR WAYS
FOR THEM TO BE HELPFUL.

00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:06.533
BECAUSE IF YOU DO
TOO MUCH FOR YOUR CHILDREN,

00:51:06.633 --> 00:51:11.566
YOU ARE RAISING YOUR
SELF-ESTEEM BY STEALING THEIRS.

00:51:11.666 --> 00:51:16.033
AND SELF-ESTEEM COMES
FROM COMPETENCE.

00:51:16.133 --> 00:51:20.333
WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE
YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE,

00:51:20.433 --> 00:51:21.633
YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.


00:51:21.733 --> 00:51:25.567
IF YOU'RE JUST DEMANDING,
THEN EVERYBODY'S DOING THINGS

00:51:25.667 --> 00:51:28.033
FOR YOU, YOU
DON'T FEEL COMPETENT,

00:51:28.133 --> 00:51:29.900
YOU DON'T FEEL GOOD
ABOUT YOURSELF,

00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:31.400
AND PEOPLE DON'T
FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOU.

00:51:31.500 --> 00:51:33.333
REBECCA: WOW.


00:51:33.433 --> 00:51:35.100
DR. AMEN: AND THEN
MODEL BRAIN HEALTH.

00:51:35.200 --> 00:51:36.534
RIGHT.


00:51:36.634 --> 00:51:40.034
THE MOST IMPORTANT WAY TO GIVE
SOMETHING AWAY IS TO GET IT.

00:51:40.134 --> 00:51:42.700
IT'S YOU HAVE TO MODEL IT.


00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.233
REBECCA: IS THERE
AN AGE THAT YOU THINK

00:51:46.333 --> 00:51:49.700
FOR HAVING THEM HELP OUT
IS LIKE OPTIMAL?

00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:50.600
DR. AMEN: AS
SOON AS THEY CAN.

00:51:50.700 --> 00:51:51.367
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:51:51.467 --> 00:51:52.567
DR. AMEN: EVEN
IN LITTLE STUFF.

00:51:52.667 --> 00:51:53.567
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:51:53.667 --> 00:51:57.267
DR. AMEN: EVEN WITH
A 9 MONTH OLD, IT'S,

00:51:57.367 --> 00:51:58.767
CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS?


00:51:58.867 --> 00:52:01.033
THEY FEEL SO GOOD
ABOUT THEMSELVES.

00:52:01.133 --> 00:52:01.833
REBECCA: AW.


00:52:01.933 --> 00:52:03.500
I LOVE THAT.


00:52:03.600 --> 00:52:04.333
OKAY.


00:52:04.433 --> 00:52:06.767
IS THERE ANY BIG
NO'S WITH KIDS?

00:52:06.867 --> 00:52:07.334
DR. AMEN: YEAH.


00:52:07.434 --> 00:52:08.134
DON'T BEAT THEM.


00:52:08.234 --> 00:52:08.700
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:09.467
[ LAUGHING ]


00:52:09.567 --> 00:52:10.534
DR. AMEN:
IT'S NOT HELPFUL.

00:52:10.634 --> 00:52:11.900
AND IT'S LIKE, SPARE THE ROD,
SPARE THE CHILD.

00:52:11.967 --> 00:52:12.867
OKAY, WHO SAID THAT?


00:52:12.967 --> 00:52:14.867
SOLOMON, WHOSE CHILDREN
WERE TERRIBLE.

00:52:14.967 --> 00:52:17.633
BUT IT'S IN THE BIBLE.


00:52:17.733 --> 00:52:20.034
WHAT IT REALLY
MEANS, I BELIEVE,

00:52:20.134 --> 00:52:23.367
IS DISCIPLINE
IS IMPORTANT,

00:52:23.467 --> 00:52:28.400
BUT ALL THE RESEARCH SAYS
PHYSICAL AGGRESSION

00:52:28.500 --> 00:52:31.500
AGAINST CHILDREN IS NOT
THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

00:52:31.600 --> 00:52:33.100
REBECCA: SO
ALL SPANKING?

00:52:33.200 --> 00:52:36.134
DR. AMEN: WELL, IF YOU
JUST POP THEM ON THE BUTT ONCE.

00:52:36.234 --> 00:52:38.367
BUT THE PEOPLE I
SEE IN MY OFFICE,

00:52:38.467 --> 00:52:41.666
THEY GET THEIR PANTS DOWN
AND THEN BEATEN WITH A BELT.

00:52:41.766 --> 00:52:43.334
NO, THAT'S ABUSE.


00:52:43.434 --> 00:52:47.800
WE HAVE TO BE
THOUGHTFUL WITH IT.

00:52:47.900 --> 00:52:52.267
AND DISCIPLINE IS
TEACHING, RIGHT,

00:52:52.367 --> 00:52:58.133
IT'S TO TEACH, TO DISCIPLE
RATHER THAN VENGEANCE

00:52:58.233 --> 00:53:00.500
BECAUSE YOU'RE ANGRY.


00:53:00.600 --> 00:53:01.566
REBECCA: OH, YEAH.


00:53:01.666 --> 00:53:04.767
DR. AMEN: SO THE WORDS
TO ALWAYS DEFAULT TO,

00:53:04.867 --> 00:53:09.166
YOU'LL NEVER MAKE A MISTAKE IF
YOU DEFAULT TO THESE TWO WORDS.

00:53:09.266 --> 00:53:10.133
FIRM.


00:53:10.233 --> 00:53:12.300
YOU SAY SOMETHING,
MEAN IT.

00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:13.667
KIND.


00:53:13.767 --> 00:53:16.233
DO IT WITH THE
RIGHT INTENTION,

00:53:16.333 --> 00:53:17.900
THE RIGHT TONE OF VOICE.


00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.967
AND ALWAYS ROOT FOR THEM AND
HOPE THEY MAKE LOTS OF MISTAKES

00:53:21.067 --> 00:53:22.500
YOU CAN
TEACH THEM WITH.

00:53:22.600 --> 00:53:23.934
AND DON'T RESCUE THEM.


00:53:24.034 --> 00:53:25.634
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.


00:53:25.734 --> 00:53:29.634
IF YOU RESCUE THEM,
THEY'LL BECOME DEPENDENT,

00:53:29.734 --> 00:53:31.200
AND THAT'S NOT
WHAT YOU WANT.

00:53:31.300 --> 00:53:32.200
REBECCA: NO.


00:53:32.300 --> 00:53:34.867
YEAH, THAT VERSE,
SPARE THE ROD,

00:53:34.967 --> 00:53:37.667
THE WAY WHEN I'D STUDIED
IT IS IT'S ACTUALLY

00:53:37.767 --> 00:53:39.900
THE ROD THAT LIKE
A SHEPHERD USES,

00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.234
AND THE SHEPHERD GUIDES
MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE,

00:53:42.334 --> 00:53:43.567
TEACHES, LIKE
YOU'RE SAYING,

00:53:43.667 --> 00:53:44.833
IT'S THAT KIND OF
DISCIPLINE WHERE YOU'RE

00:53:44.933 --> 00:53:48.434
ACTIVE IN THEIR LIFE, BUT
IT'S MORE TEACHING THEM.

00:53:48.534 --> 00:53:51.100
BUT WE'RE IN THAT,
I'M IN THE ERA,

00:53:51.200 --> 00:53:55.034
MY GENERATION RIGHT NOW,
IT'S ALL ABOUT GENTLE PARENTING

00:53:55.134 --> 00:53:57.667
AND NOT
SPANKING AT ALL,

00:53:57.767 --> 00:53:59.633
THAT IT'S BAD
FOR YOUR KID.

00:53:59.733 --> 00:54:03.166
WHAT KIND OF DISCIPLINING
CAN YOU BE FIRM THAT WON'T

00:54:03.266 --> 00:54:06.667
HURT THE KID BUT WILL SEND
THE MESSAGE TO THE CHILD?

00:54:06.767 --> 00:54:08.434
DR. AMEN: IT'S
OFTEN INDIVIDUALIZED,

00:54:08.534 --> 00:54:11.267
BUT I'M A HUGE
FAN OF TIME-OUT.

00:54:11.367 --> 00:54:12.934
REBECCA: SEE, BECAUSE
SOME PEOPLE TOLD ME THAT'S BAD.

00:54:13.034 --> 00:54:14.800
THAT'S WHY IT'S SO
CONFUSING AS A PARENT.

00:54:14.900 --> 00:54:15.966
DR. AMEN: WHO TOLD YOU?


00:54:16.066 --> 00:54:17.233
REBECCA: JUST
A COUNSELOR LADY.

00:54:17.333 --> 00:54:19.566
SHE SAYS BECAUSE THEY'RE
ALONE AND THEN THEY CAN BE

00:54:19.666 --> 00:54:22.434
ALONE WITH THEIR
THOUGHTS, BAD THOUGHTS,

00:54:22.534 --> 00:54:24.133
AND YOU'RE ISOLATING THEM.


00:54:24.233 --> 00:54:25.600
IT'S BEEN SO HARD,
I'M TELLING YOU.

00:54:25.700 --> 00:54:27.733
JUST AS A PARENT,
YOU'RE LIKE, UGH, GOD,

00:54:27.833 --> 00:54:29.633
BECAUSE YOU JUST WANT TO
DO RIGHT BY YOUR KIDS,

00:54:29.733 --> 00:54:31.967
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
RIGHT OR WHAT'S NOT RIGHT.

00:54:32.067 --> 00:54:34.300
DR. AMEN: WELL, I'VE
BEEN DOING THIS 45 YEARS,

00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.434
AND I THINK TIME-OUT
APPROPRIATELY.

00:54:37.534 --> 00:54:40.100
AND THE TIME STARTS,
THIS IS HOW I DO IT.

00:54:40.200 --> 00:54:41.267
REBECCA:
OKAY, TEACH ME.

00:54:41.367 --> 00:54:42.167
TEACH ME.


00:54:42.267 --> 00:54:45.900
DR. AMEN: SO IF
THEY HAVE A TANTRUM,

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.534
THE ANSWER'S ALWAYS NO.


00:54:48.634 --> 00:54:51.000
AND IF YOU, IN A
MOMENT OF WEAKNESS,

00:54:51.100 --> 00:54:54.967
GIVE INTO IT JUST TO
SHUT THEM UP, GO, HM,

00:54:55.067 --> 00:54:56.233
HAVE TO LEARN FROM THAT.


00:54:56.333 --> 00:54:59.434
AND EVERY DAY AS A MOM,
YOU WIN OR YOU LEARN.

00:54:59.534 --> 00:55:04.866
SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL
NOT TO INCRIMINATE YOURSELF

00:55:04.966 --> 00:55:08.166
AND TO MANAGE
YOUR OWN THOUGHTS.

00:55:08.266 --> 00:55:11.100
EVERY DAY, I
WIN OR I LEARN.

00:55:11.200 --> 00:55:13.467
AND THERE'S NOT
PARENTING CLASSES.

00:55:13.567 --> 00:55:16.600
THERE SHOULD BE, RIGHT,
IN HIGH SCHOOL,

00:55:16.700 --> 00:55:20.067
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YOU
BRING THESE THINGS HOME,

00:55:20.167 --> 00:55:22.267
AND IT'S LIKE, WHERE'S
THE INSTRUCTION MANUAL?

00:55:22.367 --> 00:55:23.100
REBECCA: THERE'S NONE!


00:55:23.200 --> 00:55:24.134
DR. AMEN: AND I
WROTE ONE CALLED

00:55:24.234 --> 00:55:26.167
<i>RAISING MENTALLY STRONG KIDS</i> .


00:55:26.267 --> 00:55:27.734
IT'S THE INSTRUCTION
MANUAL THAT SHOULD HAVE

00:55:27.834 --> 00:55:29.933
COME WITH YOUR KIDS.


00:55:30.033 --> 00:55:35.066
BUT WHEN YOU ASK THEM TO
DO SOMETHING AND THEY DON'T,

00:55:35.166 --> 00:55:36.200
I THINK IT'S GOOD.


00:55:36.300 --> 00:55:37.200
WARN THEM ONCE.


00:55:37.300 --> 00:55:38.866
ONCE, NOT THREE TIMES.


00:55:38.966 --> 00:55:41.800
IT'S LIKE, LOOK, YOU CAN DO THIS
OR YOU CAN TAKE A TIME-OUT

00:55:41.900 --> 00:55:42.900
AND THEN
YOU CAN DO IT.

00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:44.500
I DON'T CARE,
IT'S UP TO YOU.

00:55:44.600 --> 00:55:48.134
SEE, THE MINDSET IS SO
IMPORTANT NOT TO KNOW,

00:55:48.234 --> 00:55:51.966
BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE ADD,
THEY'RE CONFLICT-SEEKING.

00:55:52.066 --> 00:55:54.967
THEY ARE MASTERFUL
AT MAKING MOMMY CRY.

00:55:55.067 --> 00:55:57.300
THEY'RE MASTERFUL AT
MAKING MOMMY SCREAM

00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:02.300
BECAUSE THEY GET A
DOPAMINE HIT FROM CONFLICT.

00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:03.866
REBECCA: OH, BECAUSE
THEY GET ATTENTION?

00:56:03.966 --> 00:56:06.100
DR. AMEN: BECAUSE THEY
GET ATTENTION FROM IT.

00:56:06.200 --> 00:56:08.933
AND THAT'S WHY, IF YOU'RE
SPENDING TIME WITH THEM,

00:56:09.033 --> 00:56:10.966
IF YOU'RE
LISTENING TO THEM.

00:56:11.066 --> 00:56:14.267
WHEN I TEACH TIME-OUT IN
OUR PARENTING CLASSES,

00:56:14.367 --> 00:56:17.433
WE DON'T DO IT UNTIL WEEK SIX
BECAUSE BY THEN,

00:56:17.533 --> 00:56:18.900
PEOPLE HAVE GOALS.


00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:20.733
THEY'RE SPENDING
TIME WITH THEM.

00:56:20.833 --> 00:56:22.200
THEY'RE LISTENING.


00:56:22.300 --> 00:56:23.600
THERE'RE RULES.


00:56:23.700 --> 00:56:27.834
SO GETTING SOME CLARITY
AND STRUCTURE IN THE HOME.

00:56:27.934 --> 00:56:29.767
BUT WHEN I SAY
SOMETHING, I MEAN IT.

00:56:29.867 --> 00:56:33.400
AND PLEASE DO THIS.


00:56:33.500 --> 00:56:34.433
NO.


00:56:34.533 --> 00:56:35.567
I SAID, LOOK, YOU
HAVE A CHOICE.

00:56:35.667 --> 00:56:37.267
YOU CAN DO IT NOW OR
YOU CAN TAKE A TIME-OUT

00:56:37.367 --> 00:56:38.500
AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT.


00:56:38.600 --> 00:56:39.534
NO!


00:56:39.634 --> 00:56:40.966
AND IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT.


00:56:41.066 --> 00:56:44.900
ABOUT THEIR AGE IN
MINUTES FOR THE TIME-OUT.

00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:50.067
SO IF THEY'RE 3,
IT'S LIKE 3 MINUTES.

00:56:50.167 --> 00:56:51.866
AND TIME STARTS
WHEN THEY'RE QUIET.

00:56:51.966 --> 00:56:53.800
SO DON'T LET THEM
GO TO TIME-OUT.

00:56:53.900 --> 00:56:55.867
AND THE IDEA THAT THEY HAVE
TO BE ALONE WITH THEIR THOUGHTS,

00:56:55.967 --> 00:56:59.167
THEY'RE ALONE WITH THEIR
THOUGHTS ALL THE TIME, RIGHT.

00:56:59.267 --> 00:57:02.200
THAT'S SORT OF SILLY.


00:57:02.300 --> 00:57:06.267
PLUS, I WANT YOU TO TEACH
THEM WITH<i>CAPTAIN SNOUT</i> ,

00:57:06.367 --> 00:57:09.400
MY CHILDREN'S BOOK, IF YOU
HAVE A NEGATIVE THOUGHT,

00:57:09.500 --> 00:57:11.834
JUST ASK YOURSELF WHETHER
OR NOT IT'S TRUE.

00:57:11.934 --> 00:57:13.367
REBECCA:
YEAH, THAT'S POWERFUL.

00:57:13.467 --> 00:57:16.833
DR. AMEN: AND WHEN
THEIR TIME IS UP,

00:57:16.933 --> 00:57:18.167
HUG THEM, AND GO,


00:57:18.267 --> 00:57:19.934
NOW YOU HAVE TO DO IT.


00:57:20.034 --> 00:57:21.534
AND YOU HAVE TO WIN.


00:57:21.634 --> 00:57:25.534
IF THEY WIN, THEY
WILL ALWAYS WIN.

00:57:25.634 --> 00:57:28.366
YOU NEED TO BE
THE AUTHORITY.

00:57:28.466 --> 00:57:32.333
I THINK THAT'S WHY
GOD GAVE US PARENTS;

00:57:32.433 --> 00:57:36.166
TO DIRECT US, TO GUIDE
US WITH LOVE, WITH HOPE,

00:57:36.266 --> 00:57:38.834
ALWAYS ROOTING FOR THEM
TO DO THE RIGHT THING

00:57:38.934 --> 00:57:41.700
BUT HELPING THEM MAKE MISTAKES
SO WE CAN TEACH THEM.

00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:43.466
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

00:57:43.566 --> 00:57:47.266
WELL, THIS HAS BEEN SUCH
AN EYE-OPENING CONVERSATION.

00:57:47.366 --> 00:57:49.233
I AM JUST SO
THANKFUL FOR YOU

00:57:49.333 --> 00:57:50.634
AND EVERYTHING
THAT YOU'RE DOING.

00:57:50.734 --> 00:57:52.866
FOR THESE INCREDIBLE RESOURCES
THAT YOU'VE REFERENCED

00:57:52.966 --> 00:57:53.800
IN THE INTERVIEW,


00:57:53.900 --> 00:57:54.866
WHAT IS THE BEST WAY?


00:57:54.966 --> 00:57:56.167
JUST AMAZON?


00:57:56.267 --> 00:57:57.100
OR DO YOU HAVE A WEBSITE?


00:57:57.200 --> 00:57:58.333
DR. AMEN: SO THEY
CAN GET OUR BOOKS AT

00:57:58.433 --> 00:57:59.667
AMAZON.COM.


00:57:59.767 --> 00:58:02.000
AMEN LIKE THE LAST
WORD IN A PRAYER.

00:58:02.100 --> 00:58:06.333
OR LEARN ABOUT OUR CLINICS
AT AMENCLINICS.COM.

00:58:06.433 --> 00:58:10.233
AND FOLLOW ME @DOCAMEN
ON INSTAGRAM AND TIKTOK.

00:58:10.333 --> 00:58:12.900
REBECCA: WELL, DOCTOR, THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:14.400
YOU'RE A BLESSING.


00:58:14.500 --> 00:58:16.700
AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE,
FOR LISTENING TO

00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:18.733
<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST</i> .