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RABBI KIRT: I GO
TO SLEEP ONE NIGHT.
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I HAD NEVER READ
THE NEW TESTAMENT.
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JESUS WAS AS
FAR AWAY TO ME,
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I KID YOU NOT, AS
THE MAN ON THE MOON.
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I WAS AWOKEN
FROM MY SLEEP.
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MY EYES WERE STILL CLOSED.
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I KNEW THAT SOMETHING
WAS HAPPENING,
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AND JESUS APPEARED
ON THE CROSS.
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GOD WAS SHOWING ME THAT
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JESUS WAS THE WAY TO HIM.
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SO WHEN I FIRST STARTED
TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT IT,
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AND EVENTUALLY
WHAT THEY DID IS,
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THEY HIRED THE MOST
FAMOUS DEPROGRAMMER
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IN THE COUNTRY.
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BECAUSE TO BELIEVE IN
JESUS WAS VERY, VERY
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SHAMEFUL FOR THEM.
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THEN WHEN THAT
DIDN'T WORK,
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THEY PROBATED ME TO
A PSYCHIATRIC WARD
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FOR TWO MONTHS.
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IT WAS LIKE THERE
WAS NOTHING
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THAT WAS GOING TO STOP ME.
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SO WE NEED TO REALIZE
THAT IF WE'RE GOING
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TO BREAK THROUGH,
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WE WILL FACE RESISTANCE.
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REBECCA: HEY, GUYS.
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WELCOME TO THE
REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.
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I AM JOINED TODAY
WITH SOMEONE
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WHO IS LIKE A FAMILY
FRIEND OF OURS.
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I'M TALKING ABOUT
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RABBI KIRT SCHNEIDER,
THE AUTHOR AND FOUNDER
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OF DISCOVERING THE
JEWISH JESUS.
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RABBI, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
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RABBI KIRT: HONEY, I AM
THRILLED TO BE WITH YOU
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AND TO BE ABLE TO
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SPEND THIS TIME AND GO ON
THIS LITTLE JOURNEY TODAY
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TALKING ABOUT THE
HEBREW NAMES OF GOD.
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REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
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SO BEFORE WE DIVE
INTO THE BOOK,
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FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE
NEVER SEEN YOU,
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DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT YOU,
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WHY DON'T YOU GIVE US
YOUR TESTIMONY?
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HOW DID YOU FIND --
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WHO ARE YOU?
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WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
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AND HOW DID YOU FIND JESUS?
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RABBI KIRT: YEAH.
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WELL, I GREW UP IN A
VERY JEWISH ENVIRONMENT.
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IN FACT, WHEN I WAS
IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
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IT WAS A SECULAR
SCHOOL, REBECCA,
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BUT THEY ACTUALLY CLOSED
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THE SCHOOLS
DURING YOM KIPPUR,
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ROSH HASHANAH, ET CETERA,
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BECAUSE
NO ONE WOULD SHOW UP.
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IT WAS JUST
REALLY ISOLATED.
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VERY BEAUTIFUL CULTURE TO
GROW UP WITH, VERY CLOSE.
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BUT MY FAMILY WAS
MOSTLY SECULAR.
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I WAS BAR MITZVAHED AT A
CONSERVATIVE SYNAGOGUE,
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WHICH IS NOT SECULAR.
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SO MY HEBREW SCHOOL
TRAINING WAS KIND OF
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LIKE CONSERVATIVE JUDAISM.
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BUT I NEVER REALLY
TIED IN TO KNOWING GOD
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THROUGH MY HEBREW EDUCATION.
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I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD
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VERY DEEPLY, VERY SINCERELY,
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AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE
A CHILD.
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I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD,
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BUT THE JUDAISM THAT I
LEARNED IN HEBREW SCHOOL
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WAS VERY DRY.
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IT WAS KIND OF LIKE
MEMORIZING PRAYERS,
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LEARNING HOW
TO READ HEBREW,
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ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
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SO I WAS NEVER THAT
DRAWN TO IT.
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ALWAYS THOUGH, TOTALLY,
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YOU KNOW, YOU KNEW
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I'M A JEW,
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NOW I'M A JEW, YOU KNOW.
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REBECCA: YEAH.
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RABBI KIRT: SO THAT WAS
NEVER, THAT WAS NEVER,
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YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE.
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IT WAS JUST THAT I WASN'T
ATTRACTED TO RABBINIC
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JUDAISM SO MUCH.
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REBECCA: YEAH.
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RABBI KIRT: SO WHEN I
WAS DONE WITH MY,
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WITH MY BAR MITZVAH,
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MY PARENTS GAVE
ME THE CHOICE.
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YOU CAN CONTINUE TO GO TO
HEBREW SCHOOL THREE, FOUR
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DAYS A WEEK OR NOW THAT
YOU'VE ACHIEVED
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YOUR BAR MITZVAH,
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YOU CAN MAKE YOUR
OWN DECISION.
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SO AT THAT POINT,
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I BASICALLY WENT TO
SYNAGOGUE ON MOSTLY
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THE HIGH HOLIDAYS, ROSH
HASHANAH, YOM KIPPUR, ET CETERA.
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EVENTUALLY, I RAN INTO
SOME TROUBLE IN LIFE.
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I WOULD CALL IT,
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I HAD AN IDENTITY CRISIS
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WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD.
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I WAS A VERY
COMMITTED ATHLETE.
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EVEN GOT A SMALL SCHOLARSHIP
TO WRESTLE AT COLLEGE.
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REBECCA: YEAH.
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RABBI KIRT: BUT WHEN
I WALKED OFF
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THE WRESTLING MAT, REBECCA,
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AFTER WRESTLING MY LAST MATCH,
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IT WAS LIKE I DON'T KNOW
WHAT MY FUTURE WAS ANYMORE.
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BECAUSE WRESTLING, I
REALIZED, DIDN'T MEAN
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ANYTHING GOING IN TO THE
REAL WORLD AS AN ADULT.
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AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHO
I WAS ANYMORE,
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BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I WAS.
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AND IT JUST PUT ME
IN A TAILSPIN.
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I ALSO REALIZED THAT THE
WORLD WAS A LOT BIGGER
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THAN PEOPLE THAT WRESTLED
MY WEIGHT CLASS AND I FELT
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IN CONTROL IN
THAT ENVIRONMENT.
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I FELT THE CONTROL
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WHEN I WAS JUST DEALING
WITH PEOPLE THAT WRESTLED
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IN MY WEIGHT CLASS.
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BUT NOW I REALIZE THAT
ISN'T MY WORLD ANYMORE.
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AND IT MADE ME FEEL VERY
VULNERABLE RECOGNIZING
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THAT THE WORLD WAS
MUCH BIGGER THAN ME.
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SO I WENT INTO A TAILSPIN,
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IDENTITY CRISIS,
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NO PURPOSE.
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DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
WITH MY LIFE ANYMORE,
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AND I FELT VULNERABLE.
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BECAUSE I REALIZED
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I WAS NO LONGER
IN CONTROL.
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SO IN A NUTSHELL,
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I STARTED SEARCHING
FOR ANSWERS.
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AND I WAS READING A BOOK
ON THE NEW AGE RELIGION.
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IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE
OF THE MOST
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FAMOUS NEW AGE BOOKS
EVER REWRITTEN.
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IT'S CALLEDAUTOBIOGRAPHY
OF A YOGI BY PARAMAHANSA
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YOGANANDA THAT INTRODUCED
YOGA TO THE WESTERN WORLD.
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AND I OPENED THE BOOK AND
THERE WERE PICTURES IN THE
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BOOK OF THESE SWAMIS
FROM INDIA
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LEVITATING OFF THE GROUND.
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AND I SAID, GOD, I
SAID, IF THAT'S REAL,
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IF THOSE GUYS ARE REALLY
LEVITATING OFF THE GROUND,
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I FOUND MY NEW GOAL.
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I FOUND MY NEW WRESTLING.
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I WANT TO BE ABLE TO
LEVITATE OFF THE GROUND
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BECAUSE THIS IS A HIGHER
REALITY THAN MAKING MONEY.
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AND I IMAGINE HOW --
WHAT BLISS
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I WOULD FEEL LEVITATING
OFF THE GROUND.
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AND SO I'M IN THE MIDDLE
OF READING THIS BOOK.
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I GO TO SLEEP ONE
NIGHT, REBECCA.
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NO ONE HAD EVER
WITNESSED TO ME.
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I HAD NEVER READ
THE NEW TESTAMENT.
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JESUS WAS AS
FAR AWAY TO ME,
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I KID YOU NOT, AS
THE MAN ON THE MOON.
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JESUS NEVER
ENTERED MY MIND.
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IT WAS TOTALLY
FOREIGN TO ME.
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TOTALLY, I WOULD SAY,
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I DON'T WANT TO USE THE
WORD REPULSIVE
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BECAUSE THAT
SOUNDS TOO STRONG.
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BUT AS A JEW,
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IT WAS JUST REALLY FOREIGN
AND NOT ATTRACTIVE.
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BUT IN THE MIDDLE
OF READING
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THIS BOOKAUTOBIOGRAPHY
OF A YOGI ,
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I WENT TO SLEEP ONE NIGHT.
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I WAS AWOKEN FROM MY SLEEP
INTO WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE
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AS A SUPERNATURAL
CONSCIOUS STATE OF AWARENESS.
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SUDDENLY, I WAS AWARE
THAT I WASN'T SLEEPING.
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MY EYES WERE STILL CLOSED.
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I KNEW THAT SOMETHING
WAS HAPPENING AND JESUS
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APPEARED ON THE CROSS.
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I KNEW AS AN AMERICAN
THAT THE PERSON ON
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THE CROSS IS JESUS.
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THAT'S ALL I KNEW.
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BUT I UNDERSTOOD
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WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
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JESUS APPEARED
ON THE CROSS.
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IT WAS IN COLOR.
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I COULD SEE THE TERRAIN
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THE CROSS WAS STAKED IN.
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THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE IN
THE DISTANCE LOOKING AT HIM
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AS HE WAS BEING CRUCIFIED.
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AND THEN A RAY OF RED
LIGHT FROM STRAIGHT
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THROUGH THE SKY, FROM
STRAIGHT ABOVE THE BLUE,
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CAME DOWN ON HIS HEAD.
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AND WHEN I SAW
THAT RAY OF LIGHT,
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REBECCA, COME
DOWN IN HIS HEAD,
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I KNEW GOD WAS
SHOWING ME THAT
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JESUS WAS THE WAY
TO HIM.
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AND IT CHANGED MY LIFE,
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THAT WAS IT.
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I GOT OUT OF BED,
WENT TO THE RESTROOM.
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AND SUDDENLY, HOPE HAD
COME INTO MY HEART.
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I KNEW I WAS GOING TO
BE OKAY.
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I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ANY
CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE AT ALL.
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I JUST KNEW THAT GOD HAD
JUST REVEALED HIMSELF TO ME,
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SHOWED ME THAT JESUS
WAS THE WAY
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AND THAT
THINGS WERE GOING
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TO GET GOOD.
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REBECCA: HOW DID YOU --
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WHERE DID YOU
GO FROM THERE?
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RABBI KIRT: WELL,
WHERE I WENT FROM THERE,
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IS I STARTED TELLING
EVERYBODY ABOUT IT.
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I HAD NO, I HAD NO CONCEPT OF
WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN
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WHEN I STARTED TELLING
EVERYBODY ABOUT IT.
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BECAUSE JESUS WAS JUST NEVER
BROUGHT UP IN MY HOME.
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IT WAS JUST LIKE
A TOTAL NONISSUE.
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SO I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE
RESISTANCE AND THE, UM,
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YOU KNOW, BACKLASH THAT
I WAS GOING TO GET.
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SO WHEN I FIRST STARTED
TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT IT,
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I'M SPEAKING OF MY
IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
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THEY DIDN'T REACT MUCH
BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY
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THOUGHT IT WAS A DREAM OR
SOMETHING AND IT'D BE OVER
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IN A COUPLE DAYS.
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BUT I JUST KEPT ON
TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT IT,
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TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
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SOMEBODY EVENTUALLY
SAID TO ME,
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WELL, YOU SHOULD GO
GET A NEW TESTAMENT,
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BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH ALL MY
CLOSE FRIENDS WERE JEWS,
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I KNEW A LOT OF PEOPLE.
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AND SO I WENT AND GOT A
NEW TESTAMENT,
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STARTED DEVOURING IT.
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AND I THOUGHT IT WAS,
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THIS IS LIKE THE COOLEST
THING SINCE SLICED BREAD.
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I'D GO TO MY DAD,
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DAD, LOOK AT THIS FIRST.
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GOD WAS IN CHRIST
RECONCILING
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THE WORLD TO HIMSELF.
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REBECCA: OH, WOW.
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RABBI KIRT: AND EVENTUALLY
WHAT THEY DID IS
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THEY HIRED THE MOST FAMOUS
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DEPROGRAMMER
IN THE COUNTRY.
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THEY FLEW HIM DOWN FROM
CALIFORNIA TO KIDNAP ME.
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REBECCA: YOUR SECULAR PARENTS?
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RABBI KIRT: YES.
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REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
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RABBI KIRT: BECAUSE
TO BELIEVE IN JESUS,
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IT WAS VERY, VERY
SHAMEFUL FOR THEM.
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REBECCA: OH, WOW.
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RABBI KIRT: FOR THEIR SON
TO BE BELIEVING IN JESUS,
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WALKING AROUND THE
JEWISH NEIGHBORHOOD,
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TALKING ABOUT JESUS
TO EVERYBODY.
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AND SO, UM, YEAH,
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THEY HIRED SOMEBODY TO
COME AND KIDNAP ME,
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TED PATRICK AND
DEPROGRAM ME.
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IT'S ACTUALLY -- I HAVE
FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL,
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YOU KNOW, SOME OF
THE ACTUAL, UH,
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THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON IN A
VIDEO ON MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL.
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AND THE NAME OF
THE VIDEO ON
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MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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IT'S CALLED JESUS
APPEARED IN MY ROOM.
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SO I SHOW SOME OF THE
FOOTAGE OF, YOU KNOW,
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THE DEPROGRAMMER AND SOME OF,
SOME OF THE THINGS
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THAT I EXPERIENCED
GROWING UP.
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BUT BASICALLY THEN WHEN
THAT DIDN'T WORK,
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THEY PROBATED ME TO A
PSYCHIATRIC WARD FOR TWO MONTHS.
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REBECCA: WHAT?
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RABBI KIRT: THINKING THAT
IF I COULD JUST GET AWAY
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FROM WHOEVER THEY THOUGHT
WAS PROGRAMMING ME.
00:07:41.633 --> 00:07:44.100
AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE I'D
SNAP BACK OUT OF IT.
00:07:44.200 --> 00:07:45.233
SO, YEAH,
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SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE
DEPROGRAMMING DIDN'T WORK.
00:07:46.767 --> 00:07:48.900
I MEAN, I TRIED TO BE A
LITTLE LESS VOCAL
00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:50.366
WHEN I CAME BACK HOME.
00:07:50.466 --> 00:07:52.399
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL
TALKING ABOUT JESUS.
00:07:52.499 --> 00:07:53.999
SO THEY'RE, YOU
KNOW, TOTALLY,
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THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE
TO THEM.
00:07:55.400 --> 00:07:56.700
I MEAN, IT WAS
JUST A TOTAL, YOU KNOW,
00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:58.766
JUST TOTAL GRIEF
IN THEIR HEART
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THAT THEIR SON IS
TALKING ABOUT JESUS.
00:08:01.466 --> 00:08:03.133
BECAUSE TO MOST JEWS,
00:08:03.233 --> 00:08:06.033
ESPECIALLY MY PARENTS
GENERATION, YOU KNOW,
00:08:06.133 --> 00:08:07.467
JESUS AND HITLER WERE,
00:08:07.567 --> 00:08:09.033
YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW RELATED.
00:08:09.133 --> 00:08:10.133
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:08:10.233 --> 00:08:11.199
RABBI KIRT: SO FOR THEIR
SON TO BE TALKING ABOUT
00:08:11.299 --> 00:08:14.466
JESUS WAS JUST A TOTAL
RIP THEIR HEART IN HALF.
00:08:14.566 --> 00:08:16.599
SO WHEN THE DEPROGRAMMING
DIDN'T WORK,
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THEN THEY HIRED, THEY
BROUGHT A JEWISH
00:08:18.633 --> 00:08:20.567
PSYCHIATRIST OVER MY HOME.
00:08:20.667 --> 00:08:22.433
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS
GOING TO HAPPEN
00:08:22.533 --> 00:08:24.100
AND HE'S THERE.
00:08:24.200 --> 00:08:26.366
AND I SIT DOWN AT
THE KITCHEN TABLE.
00:08:26.466 --> 00:08:27.600
AND HE JUST, YOU KNOW,
SAID, YOU KNOW.
00:08:27.700 --> 00:08:28.600
TELL ME A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT
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WHAT'S GOING ON,
00:08:29.866 --> 00:08:33.233
AND HE WAS LIKE THIS
REAL MILD-MANNERED GUY.
00:08:33.333 --> 00:08:35.399
JUST LIKE TOTALLY,
LIKE TOTALLY LIKE,
00:08:35.499 --> 00:08:38.633
HE APPEARED ALMOST
LIKE, UM, FRAIL.
00:08:38.733 --> 00:08:39.766
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:08:39.866 --> 00:08:41.033
RABBI KIRT: AND I JUST, I
JUST LIKE LAID IT ON HIM.
00:08:41.133 --> 00:08:43.767
I JUST SAID IF JESUS
WOULDN'T HAVE SAVED ME,
00:08:43.867 --> 00:08:45.000
YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD
HAVE HAPPENED.
00:08:45.100 --> 00:08:47.333
I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT
I WAS GOING THROUGH.
00:08:47.433 --> 00:08:50.800
AND HE JUST LISTENED FOR
45 MINUTES OR SO
00:08:50.900 --> 00:08:51.866
AND IT WAS OVER.
00:08:51.966 --> 00:08:54.366
AND I ACTUALLY WAS PROUD
OF MYSELF FOR BEING SUCH
00:08:54.466 --> 00:08:56.000
A STRONG WITNESS TO HIM.
00:08:56.100 --> 00:08:57.200
BUT WHAT HE DID WAS
00:08:57.300 --> 00:08:58.667
HE WENT TO THE,
00:08:58.767 --> 00:09:02.166
YOU KNOW, TO THE, YOU KNOW,
THE WHATEVER PROTOCOL THEY HAD.
00:09:02.266 --> 00:09:05.333
AND SO THIS, THIS MAN'S
DELUSIONAL AND WE NEED TO
00:09:05.433 --> 00:09:07.133
PROBATE HIM TO GET HIM HELP.
00:09:07.233 --> 00:09:09.233
WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO PUT
HIM IN THE PSYCHIATRIC WARD
00:09:09.333 --> 00:09:10.100
TO GET HIM HELP.
00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:11.200
HE'S SEEING THINGS.
00:09:11.300 --> 00:09:13.466
HE SAID HE HAD A
VISION OF JESUS.
00:09:13.566 --> 00:09:14.833
SO I WAS PROBATED
AT MOUNT SINAI
00:09:14.933 --> 00:09:17.433
HOSPITAL IN CLEVELAND,
OHIO FOR TWO MONTHS.
00:09:17.533 --> 00:09:21.100
AND AT THAT TIME, YOU COULD
GET PROBATED BY THE WITNESS
00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.066
OF ONE PSYCHIATRIST.
00:09:23.166 --> 00:09:27.000
BUT THEN THE WAY THE LAW
WORKED WAS AFTER TWO MONTHS,
00:09:27.100 --> 00:09:28.533
THE PERSON THAT WAS
PROBATED HAD AN
00:09:28.633 --> 00:09:31.433
OPPORTUNITY TO GO BEFORE A
BOARD OF PSYCHIATRISTS
00:09:31.533 --> 00:09:33.167
AND SPEAK FOR THEMSELF.
00:09:33.267 --> 00:09:34.333
SO AFTER TWO MONTHS,
00:09:34.433 --> 00:09:35.833
THEY BROUGHT ME THROUGH
THE BOARD OF PSYCHIATRISTS
00:09:35.933 --> 00:09:38.333
IN A CONFERENCE ROOM AND
I SPOKE FOR MYSELF.
00:09:38.433 --> 00:09:40.366
AND THEY RELEASED ME AND
THAT WAS IT.
00:09:40.466 --> 00:09:42.866
AND I'VE JUST CONTINUED
ON AND GOD JUST, YOU KNOW,
00:09:42.966 --> 00:09:45.800
JUST CONTINUED TO WORK
POWERFULLY IN MY LIFE.
00:09:45.900 --> 00:09:48.133
WENT AWAY TO BIBLE SCHOOL, GOT
MARRIED, AND BEEN PREACHING
00:09:48.233 --> 00:09:49.066
ALL OVER THE WORLD
00:09:49.166 --> 00:09:50.566
NOW FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
00:09:50.666 --> 00:09:53.067
REBECCA: THAT IS SUCH A
POWERFUL TESTIMONY.
00:09:53.167 --> 00:09:55.933
BUT THERE
WAS SUCH, YOU KNOW,
00:09:56.033 --> 00:09:57.733
SPIRITUAL PUSHBACK FROM YOU
00:09:57.833 --> 00:09:58.666
IN THE BEGINNING.
00:09:58.766 --> 00:10:01.133
TRYING TO LIKE TAKE
THAT FLAME OUT.
00:10:01.233 --> 00:10:01.933
RABBI KIRT: YEAH, YEAH.
00:10:02.033 --> 00:10:02.833
REBECCA: I MEAN,
WHAT A FIGHT.
00:10:02.933 --> 00:10:04.966
BUT WHAT KEPT
YOU GOING THROUGH --
00:10:05.066 --> 00:10:08.000
I MEAN, DEPROGRAMMING
IN A PSYCHIATRIC WARD,
00:10:08.100 --> 00:10:10.066
HOW DID -- WHAT KEPT
YOU GOING
00:10:10.166 --> 00:10:11.133
THROUGH THAT DIFFICULTY?
00:10:11.233 --> 00:10:11.733
RABBI KIRT: IT
WAS, YOU KNOW,
00:10:11.833 --> 00:10:12.933
IT WAS THE LORD.
00:10:13.033 --> 00:10:13.866
IT REALLY WAS.
00:10:13.966 --> 00:10:15.633
I MEAN, THERE WASN'T
ANY THING IN ME
00:10:15.733 --> 00:10:17.066
THAT I COULD TAKE
ANY CREDIT FOR.
00:10:17.166 --> 00:10:18.933
IT WAS THAT I KNEW
THAT GOD WAS REAL.
00:10:19.033 --> 00:10:20.433
I KNEW THAT HE WAS ALIVE.
00:10:20.533 --> 00:10:22.833
I BELIEVE WHAT THE
BIBLE SAID, YOU KNOW.
00:10:22.933 --> 00:10:24.666
JESUS SAID, IF THE SUN
SHALL SET YOU FREE,
00:10:24.766 --> 00:10:26.366
YOU WILL BE FREE INDEED.
00:10:26.466 --> 00:10:28.299
I BELIEVED IN THE
VICTORY THAT WE CAN HAVE
00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:29.866
AND HAVE IN JESUS.
00:10:29.966 --> 00:10:32.333
AND I WAS SO MOTIVATED
TO EXPERIENCE
00:10:32.433 --> 00:10:36.167
THE FULLNESS OF WHAT
MESSIAH PURCHASED FOR US
00:10:36.267 --> 00:10:38.733
TO ENTER INTO THE FULLNESS
OF HIS POWER AND HIS PEACE
00:10:38.833 --> 00:10:42.066
AND HIS JOY AND HIS GLORY
AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
00:10:42.166 --> 00:10:43.499
AND I KNEW HE WAS REAL.
00:10:43.599 --> 00:10:44.199
THAT IT WAS LIKE,
00:10:44.299 --> 00:10:44.900
THERE WAS NOTHING
00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:45.900
THAT WAS GOING TO STOP ME.
00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:47.966
YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED
ABOUT THE PUSHBACK.
00:10:48.066 --> 00:10:50.099
I REMEMBER, REBECCA,
THINKING ABOUT PUSHBACK,
00:10:50.199 --> 00:10:52.200
AND THIS IS FOR EVERYONE
THAT WILL LISTEN TO THIS.
00:10:52.300 --> 00:10:55.367
I THINK IT'S SUCH A TRUE
THING FOR US TO REALIZE
00:10:55.467 --> 00:10:56.800
THAT NOT ONLY DID I
HAVE PUSHBACK
00:10:56.900 --> 00:10:58.233
IN THE NATURAL WORLD,
00:10:58.333 --> 00:11:00.600
BUT I REMEMBER, REBECCA,
WHEN I BEGAN TO READ
00:11:00.700 --> 00:11:01.633
THE WORD OF GOD.
00:11:01.733 --> 00:11:05.066
AND I READ IN
THE BOOK OF HEBREWS THAT
00:11:05.166 --> 00:11:09.400
FAITH IS BELIEVING THAT
GOD IS A REWARDER OF THOSE
00:11:09.500 --> 00:11:10.833
THAT DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.
00:11:10.933 --> 00:11:12.933
GOD IS A REWARDER FOR THOSE
THAT DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.
00:11:13.033 --> 00:11:14.233
AND WHEN I READ
THAT VERSE,
00:11:14.333 --> 00:11:15.599
IT WAS LIKE, WOW.
00:11:15.699 --> 00:11:17.500
IF I JUST KEEP
SEEKING GOD,
00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:19.133
HE'S GOING TO REWARD ME.
00:11:19.233 --> 00:11:20.499
SO I IMMEDIATELY
SAID, OKAY.
00:11:20.599 --> 00:11:23.466
TOMORROW, ALL I'M GOING
TO DO IS SEEK YOU, GOD.
00:11:23.566 --> 00:11:25.633
I'M GOING TO SPEND ALL
DAY READING THE BIBLE,
00:11:25.733 --> 00:11:29.000
LISTENING TO, LISTENING TO
WORSHIP MUSIC AND PRAYING.
00:11:29.100 --> 00:11:30.933
SO I SPENT ALL
THAT NEXT DAY
00:11:31.033 --> 00:11:32.866
JUST SITTING
BEFORE THE LORD.
00:11:32.966 --> 00:11:35.166
THAT DAY AT THE END
OF THE DAY,
00:11:35.266 --> 00:11:37.666
I WENT INTO MY BEDROOM
TO GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
00:11:37.766 --> 00:11:40.266
AND I WAS SO
EXCITED, REBECCA,
00:11:40.366 --> 00:11:43.867
BECAUSE I THOUGHT I JUST
SPENT ALL DAY SEEKING GOD.
00:11:43.967 --> 00:11:46.033
AND HE PROMISED HE WAS
GOING TO REWARD ME
00:11:46.133 --> 00:11:47.299
FOR SEEKING HIM.
00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:50.499
SO I WAS JUST SO EXPECTANT
WHEN I WENT TO SLEEP THAT NIGHT.
00:11:50.599 --> 00:11:51.766
THAT NIGHT,
00:11:51.866 --> 00:11:56.766
I HAD THE WORST SPIRITUAL
ATTACK LITERALLY FROM
00:11:56.866 --> 00:12:00.466
THE VIOLENCE OF
SPIRITUAL EVIL THAT
00:12:00.566 --> 00:12:02.533
I EVER EXPERIENCED IN
MY LIFE.
00:12:02.633 --> 00:12:05.499
I MEAN, I LITERALLY, IN MY
SLEEP, FELT LIKE I WAS
00:12:05.599 --> 00:12:09.300
A DODGEBALL BEING THROWN
VIOLENTLY AGAINST
00:12:09.400 --> 00:12:10.800
THE WALLS IN MY ROOM.
00:12:10.900 --> 00:12:11.967
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:12:12.067 --> 00:12:13.066
RABBI KIRT: AND IT WAS --
00:12:13.166 --> 00:12:16.466
IT ABSOLUTELY WAS THE
DEVIL TRYING TO STOP ME
00:12:16.566 --> 00:12:18.000
FROM SEEKING GOD.
00:12:18.100 --> 00:12:20.366
SO WE NEED TO REALIZE
THAT IF WE'RE GOING
00:12:20.466 --> 00:12:21.633
TO BREAK THROUGH,
00:12:21.733 --> 00:12:23.967
WE WILL FACE RESISTANCE
AND WE HAVE
00:12:24.067 --> 00:12:25.700
TO KEEP BREAKING THROUGH.
00:12:25.800 --> 00:12:27.567
AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE
FACING RESISTANCE,
00:12:27.667 --> 00:12:29.400
WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE
NOT GETTING ANYWHERE.
00:12:29.500 --> 00:12:30.999
AND WE FEEL WEAK
BECAUSE WE JUST FEEL
00:12:31.099 --> 00:12:34.133
THE RESISTANCE, BUT KEEP
PRESSING IN AND YOU'LL
00:12:34.233 --> 00:12:36.199
BREAK THROUGH
AND GET VICTORY.
00:12:36.299 --> 00:12:37.467
REBECCA: THAT'S SUCH
A GOOD WORD.
00:12:37.567 --> 00:12:38.200
IT'S SO TRUE.
00:12:38.300 --> 00:12:40.266
WE DO HAVE TO PERSEVERE.
00:12:40.366 --> 00:12:42.467
THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THAT
AND I'M GLAD YOU SHARED
00:12:42.567 --> 00:12:44.433
THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF
TIMES PEOPLE ALLOW
00:12:44.533 --> 00:12:46.333
THEMSELVES TO BECOME
DISCOURAGED.
00:12:46.433 --> 00:12:47.767
AND IF YOU GET DISCOURAGED,
00:12:47.867 --> 00:12:49.300
YOU WON'T PERSEVERE.
00:12:49.400 --> 00:12:51.000
BUT YOU'RE A LIVING
TESTIMONY.
00:12:51.100 --> 00:12:53.466
YOU'RE STANDING HERE TODAY
AND I'VE LOOKED AT ALL
00:12:53.566 --> 00:12:54.367
THAT YOU'VE DONE.
00:12:54.467 --> 00:12:55.933
AND WHAT I LOVED
ABOUT YOUR TESTIMONY
00:12:56.033 --> 00:12:58.866
IS YOU SAID YOU GREW UP IN THIS
BEAUTIFUL JEWISH COMMUNITY.
00:12:58.966 --> 00:12:59.966
BUT JUDAISM,
00:13:00.066 --> 00:13:02.433
THE WAY IT WAS BROUGHT TO
YOU, WAS KIND OF DRY.
00:13:02.533 --> 00:13:05.466
BUT WHEN YOU MET YESHUA,
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE ABLE TO
00:13:05.566 --> 00:13:09.867
CONNECT THESE TWO WORLDS
WITH THE HEBREW ROOTS OF THE
00:13:09.967 --> 00:13:13.466
FAITH AND HOW THERE'S SO
MUCH LIFE AND FULLNESS.
00:13:13.566 --> 00:13:16.566
AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT I
THINK SO MANY GENTILE
00:13:16.666 --> 00:13:19.800
CHRISTIANS ARE MISSING OUT
ON WHICH IS WHY I LOVE THAT
00:13:19.900 --> 00:13:21.000
YOU WROTE THIS BOOK.
00:13:21.100 --> 00:13:23.300
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT
THE NAMES OF GOD,
00:13:23.400 --> 00:13:26.066
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH
RICHNESS AND DEPTH THERE.
00:13:26.166 --> 00:13:27.867
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH
SOMEONE WITH
00:13:27.967 --> 00:13:29.400
YOUR BACKGROUND AND
UNDERSTANDING,
00:13:29.500 --> 00:13:31.333
YOU'RE ABLE TO
CONNECT THOSE TWO DOTS
00:13:31.433 --> 00:13:34.167
WHERE A LOT OF TIMES
GENTILES DON'T UNDERSTAND
00:13:34.267 --> 00:13:35.200
THE JEWISH ROOTS
OF THE FAITH.
00:13:35.300 --> 00:13:37.300
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND
THE HEBREW LANGUAGE.
00:13:37.400 --> 00:13:40.133
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT
THE NAMES OF GOD,
00:13:40.233 --> 00:13:42.833
AND YOU CAN JUST, YOU CAN HIT
ON DIFFERENT ONES THAT YOU
00:13:42.933 --> 00:13:44.499
THINK ARE THE
MOST IMPORTANT.
00:13:44.599 --> 00:13:45.367
RABBI KIRT: OKAY.
00:13:45.467 --> 00:13:46.167
WELL, THANK YOU.
00:13:46.267 --> 00:13:46.933
FIRST OF ALL,
00:13:47.033 --> 00:13:47.667
I THINK THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE
00:13:47.767 --> 00:13:49.700
BETWEEN NAMES AND TITLES.
00:13:49.800 --> 00:13:52.199
SO, LET'S START WITH
THE FIRST TITLE OF GOD.
00:13:52.299 --> 00:13:54.367
IT'S THE TITLE OF THE
CREATOR AND EVERYBODY
00:13:54.467 --> 00:13:55.533
KNOWS THE VERSE,
00:13:55.633 --> 00:13:58.899
GENESIS OR BERESHIT
CHAPTER ONE, VERSE ONE.
00:13:58.999 --> 00:14:00.166
IN THE BEGINNING,
00:14:00.266 --> 00:14:02.466
GOD CREATED THE
HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.
00:14:02.566 --> 00:14:05.333
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT VERSE,
AS A BELIEVER AT LEAST.
00:14:05.433 --> 00:14:07.333
AND WE JUST THINK
GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS
00:14:07.433 --> 00:14:10.266
AND THE EARTH, BUT THE
ACTUAL HEBREW WORD THERE
00:14:10.366 --> 00:14:13.767
IN THE TANAKH IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT IS ELOHIM.
00:14:13.867 --> 00:14:16.367
SO IT SAYS IN THE
BEGINNING,
00:14:16.467 --> 00:14:18.666
ELOHIM CREATED THE HEAVENS
AND THE EARTH.
00:14:18.766 --> 00:14:19.466
SO WHAT CAN WE --
00:14:19.566 --> 00:14:21.066
WHAT CAN WE
MIND FROM THAT?
00:14:21.166 --> 00:14:25.366
WELL, ELOHIM IS THE PLURAL
OF THE HEBREW WORD EL,
00:14:25.466 --> 00:14:27.033
AND EL JUST MEANS GOD.
00:14:27.133 --> 00:14:30.900
SO WHEN WE ADD -IM ONTO THE
END OF A HEBREW WORD,
00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:34.700
THE SINGULAR HEBREW WORD
BECOMES A PLURAL HEBREW WORD.
00:14:34.800 --> 00:14:36.466
SO KIBBUTZ SINGULAR,
00:14:36.566 --> 00:14:37.967
KIBBUTZIM PLURAL.
00:14:38.067 --> 00:14:39.233
SO EL SINGULAR,
00:14:39.333 --> 00:14:40.900
ELOHIM PLURAL.
00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.600
AND THEN IF YOU CONTINUE
READING IN GENESIS ONE,
00:14:43.700 --> 00:14:48.266
THE LORD SPEAKS AND
HE SAYS LET US,
00:14:48.366 --> 00:14:49.533
THINK ABOUT THE WORD US,
00:14:49.633 --> 00:14:54.833
LET US CREATE
MAN IN OUR IMAGE.
00:14:54.933 --> 00:14:58.000
SO WHO'S GOD TALKING TO
WHEN HE SAID LET US
00:14:58.100 --> 00:14:59.033
AND WHO IS HE REFERRING TO
00:14:59.133 --> 00:15:01.633
WHEN HE SAID OUR IMAGE.
00:15:01.733 --> 00:15:03.167
WELL, THE RABBIS
SAY, REBECCA,
00:15:03.267 --> 00:15:05.000
THAT HE WAS TALKING
TO THE ANGELS,
00:15:05.100 --> 00:15:06.733
BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY
SENSE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
00:15:06.833 --> 00:15:08.600
CREATED IN THE
IMAGE OF THE ANGELS.
00:15:08.700 --> 00:15:10.799
WE'RE CREATED
IN HIS IMAGE.
00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:15.866
SO THAT GIVES US INSIGHT
INTO THE MULTIDIMENSIONAL
00:15:15.966 --> 00:15:17.633
NATURE OF THE GODHEAD.
00:15:17.733 --> 00:15:22.833
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE CANNOT
CONCEIVE AS IN OUR HUMAN MINDS,
00:15:22.933 --> 00:15:25.800
HOW THERE'S ONE GOD,
BUT HE EXISTS
00:15:25.900 --> 00:15:28.300
AS FATHER, SON AND SPIRIT.
00:15:28.400 --> 00:15:30.699
AND THE SON'S IN
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER
00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.700
AS A UNIQUE PERSON, YET
THEY'RE BOTH GOD
00:15:33.800 --> 00:15:35.499
AND THERE'S ONLY ONE GOD.
00:15:35.599 --> 00:15:38.467
THAT'S THE -- THAT'S THE MOST
FAMOUS HEBREW DECLARATION,
00:15:38.567 --> 00:15:40.333
THE SHEMA, HEAR, O ISRAEL,
00:15:40.433 --> 00:15:41.000
THE LORD OUR GOD,
00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:43.233
THE LORD IS ONE, RIGHT?
00:15:43.333 --> 00:15:46.199
ONE GOD AND SO THAT'S WHY
WHEN WE START SHARING
00:15:46.299 --> 00:15:49.233
OUR FAITH WITH
JEWISH PEOPLE, IN YESHUA,
00:15:49.333 --> 00:15:50.100
THEY SAY, WELL, YOU
KNOW, WE'RE JEWS.
00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:51.333
WE BELIEVE IN ONE GOD.
00:15:51.433 --> 00:15:52.900
WE SAY, WELL, WE
BELIEVE IN ONE GOD, TOO.
00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:54.800
WE BELIEVE HE'S MADE
HIMSELF KNOWN AS FATHER,
00:15:54.900 --> 00:15:55.633
SON, AND SPIRIT.
00:15:55.733 --> 00:15:56.533
THEY GO, AH!
00:15:56.633 --> 00:15:57.433
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:15:57.533 --> 00:15:58.967
RABBI KIRT: BUT THE
REALITY IS GOD
00:15:59.067 --> 00:16:01.633
IS MULTIDIMENSIONAL
00:16:01.733 --> 00:16:04.133
AND WE SEE THAT AS HE'S
INTRODUCED TO US IN THE
00:16:04.233 --> 00:16:06.366
FIRST VERSE OF THE
BIBLE AS ELOHIM,
00:16:06.466 --> 00:16:09.000
WHICH IS GOD
IN PLURAL FORM.
00:16:09.100 --> 00:16:13.033
AND THEN HE SPEAKS LET US
MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE.
00:16:13.133 --> 00:16:15.000
HE -- WHAT WE SEE REVEALED
00:16:15.100 --> 00:16:18.600
HERE IS THAT WITHIN GOD,
00:16:18.700 --> 00:16:20.533
THERE IS COMMUNITY.
00:16:20.633 --> 00:16:24.833
AND THAT GOD IS, HE'S
NOT A SINGULAR UNITY.
00:16:24.933 --> 00:16:28.167
HE'S A COMPOUND UNITY
MEANING THAT
00:16:28.267 --> 00:16:30.567
IN THE SHEMA,
SHEMA YISRAEL,
00:16:30.667 --> 00:16:33.733
ADONAI ELOHEINU,
ADONAI ECHAD,
00:16:33.833 --> 00:16:35.000
THE WORD ECHAD IS ONE.
00:16:35.100 --> 00:16:36.800
HEAR, O ISRAEL, THE LORD
OUR GOD, THE LORD IS ECHAD,
00:16:36.900 --> 00:16:38.000
THE LORD IS ONE.
00:16:38.100 --> 00:16:39.633
BUT WHEN YOU STUDY THAT
WORD ECHAD,
00:16:39.733 --> 00:16:40.600
WHICH JEWISH PEOPLE,
00:16:40.700 --> 00:16:42.233
YOU KNOW, GET THIS CONCEPT.
00:16:42.333 --> 00:16:47.133
THERE'S ONLY A GOD IN SINGULAR
FORM FROM THE WORD ECHAD.
00:16:47.233 --> 00:16:48.866
BUT WHEN YOU STUDY
THE WORD OF ECHAD,
00:16:48.966 --> 00:16:52.733
IT'S OFTENTIMES USED AS
IN AS A COMPOUND UNITY.
00:16:52.833 --> 00:16:56.099
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A MAN
SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER
00:16:56.199 --> 00:16:59.833
AND MOTHER AND
CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE
00:16:59.933 --> 00:17:03.333
AND THE TWO SHALL
BECOME ECHAD, ONE.
00:17:03.433 --> 00:17:04.066
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:17:04.166 --> 00:17:04.967
RABBI KIRT: SO THE SAME,
00:17:05.067 --> 00:17:06.399
HERE'S A MAN AND A WOMAN
THEY'RE ONE,
00:17:06.499 --> 00:17:08.833
BUT THEY'RE A MAN AND
WOMAN TOGETHER AS ONE.
00:17:08.933 --> 00:17:10.733
SO WE JUST SEE IN THE
INTRODUCTION
00:17:10.833 --> 00:17:12.799
OF OUR CREATOR AS ELOHIM
00:17:12.899 --> 00:17:15.933
THAT HE IS A
COMPOUND UNITY.
00:17:16.033 --> 00:17:17.966
LET US,
00:17:18.066 --> 00:17:18.967
I LOVE THIS.
00:17:19.067 --> 00:17:20.633
GOD IS IN US.
00:17:20.733 --> 00:17:22.000
NOW THAT SOUNDS
LIKE REALLY WEIRD.
00:17:22.100 --> 00:17:22.567
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
00:17:22.667 --> 00:17:23.400
GOD IS IN US.
00:17:23.500 --> 00:17:24.599
BUT LET ME JUST
UNPACK IT FOR --
00:17:24.699 --> 00:17:26.000
INSIDE GOD,
00:17:26.100 --> 00:17:27.899
THERE'S RELATIONSHIP.
00:17:27.999 --> 00:17:29.167
LET US, GOD SAID.
00:17:29.267 --> 00:17:31.967
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN IN
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SON
00:17:32.067 --> 00:17:34.300
WHO'S ETERNALLY BEEN
IN HIS BOSOM.
00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.133
THE SON'S IN THE BOSOM
OF THE FATHER.
00:17:37.233 --> 00:17:39.566
GOD IS LOVE, BUT IN ORDER
FOR GOD TO BE LOVE,
00:17:39.666 --> 00:17:41.167
THERE HAS TO BE
SOMEONE TO LOVE.
00:17:41.267 --> 00:17:43.200
SO THE SON'S ALWAYS
BEEN PRESENT.
00:17:43.300 --> 00:17:45.366
SO LET US, THE FATHER
AND THE SON,
00:17:45.466 --> 00:17:47.333
MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE.
00:17:47.433 --> 00:17:49.500
SO FROM THE VERY FIRST
VERSE IN THE BIBLE,
00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:52.900
WE HAVE A REVELATION ABOUT
THE MULTIDIMENSIONAL
00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:55.066
NATURE OF THE GODHEAD.
00:17:55.166 --> 00:17:56.467
AND I JUST WANT TO CLOSE
THAT LITTLE SEGMENT
00:17:56.567 --> 00:17:57.433
BY SAYING THIS.
00:17:57.533 --> 00:17:58.967
NOW WHAT I'M SAYING
IF WE'RE TRYING
00:17:59.067 --> 00:18:00.466
TO UNDERSTAND THAT
INTELLECTUALLY,
00:18:00.566 --> 00:18:01.667
IT MAKES NO SENSE.
00:18:01.767 --> 00:18:03.333
LIKE HOW COULD
THERE BE ONE GOD
00:18:03.433 --> 00:18:04.333
THAT EXISTS IN
THE PERSON OF
00:18:04.433 --> 00:18:05.399
THE FATHER, SON,
AND SPIRIT.
00:18:05.499 --> 00:18:07.133
I MEAN, THAT
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
00:18:07.233 --> 00:18:09.000
BUT LET ME ASK THIS
QUESTION.
00:18:09.100 --> 00:18:15.567
DOES IT MAKE SENSE THAT GOD
CAME FROM NOWHERE?
00:18:15.667 --> 00:18:17.966
THAT GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN.
00:18:18.066 --> 00:18:19.499
REBECCA: THAT'S LIKE HARD
TO UNDERSTAND.
00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:20.200
RABBI KIRT: THAT'S
IMPOSSIBLE TO GRASP.
00:18:20.300 --> 00:18:21.233
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:18:21.333 --> 00:18:22.266
RABBI KIRT:
BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY
00:18:22.366 --> 00:18:23.833
THINK IN TERMS OF LAWS
OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.
00:18:23.933 --> 00:18:24.800
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:25.600
RABBI KIRT: BUT WHERE
DID HE COME FROM?
00:18:25.700 --> 00:18:26.567
HE DIDN'T COME
FROM ANYWHERE.
00:18:26.667 --> 00:18:27.366
HE'S ALWAYS --
00:18:27.466 --> 00:18:28.800
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
00:18:28.900 --> 00:18:31.099
SAME THING IS TRUE THAT
THERE'S ONE GOD THAT
00:18:31.199 --> 00:18:32.467
EXISTS IN THE PERSON
OF THE FATHER, SON
00:18:32.567 --> 00:18:33.800
AND SPIRIT, ONE GOD,
00:18:33.900 --> 00:18:36.066
MULTIDIMENSIONAL
IN NATURE.
00:18:36.166 --> 00:18:37.100
REBECCA: AND ONE OF THE THINGS
00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:38.333
I LOVE THAT YOU WERE
TELLING ME BEFORE THIS
00:18:38.433 --> 00:18:42.133
INTERVIEW WAS THAT THE
MOST IMPORTANT NAME TO
00:18:42.233 --> 00:18:44.166
KNOW IS GOD AS FATHER.
00:18:44.266 --> 00:18:45.766
AND WHEN I THINK
ABOUT YOUR TESTIMONY,
00:18:45.866 --> 00:18:48.067
HOW NO ONE HAD
WITNESSED TO YOU,
00:18:48.167 --> 00:18:50.000
YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY
CONCEPT AND UNDERSTANDING
00:18:50.100 --> 00:18:51.133
REALLY OF JESUS.
00:18:51.233 --> 00:18:54.233
AND YET THE FATHER
REACHED OUT TO YOU
00:18:54.333 --> 00:18:56.533
BECAUSE HE WANTED TO BRING
YOU INTO HIS FAMILY
00:18:56.633 --> 00:18:57.333
AS A SON.
00:18:57.433 --> 00:18:58.533
RABBI KIRT: YEAH.
00:18:58.633 --> 00:19:01.067
REBECCA: AND HOW THE GREAT
COMMISSION IS A COMMISSION
00:19:01.167 --> 00:19:03.766
GIVEN BY THE FATHER TO GO
INTO THE WORLD TO MAKE
00:19:03.866 --> 00:19:07.167
DISCIPLES TO BRING PEOPLE
INTO THE FAMILY OF GOD.
00:19:07.267 --> 00:19:09.967
SO CAN YOU UNPACK HOW
GOD IS OUR FATHER,
00:19:10.067 --> 00:19:12.167
AND HOW WE CAN KNOW HIM
AS A FATHER?
00:19:12.267 --> 00:19:14.066
AND HOW IN TURN
00:19:14.166 --> 00:19:14.933
HE IS OUR FATHER?
00:19:15.033 --> 00:19:15.966
WE ARE HIS CHILDREN,
00:19:16.066 --> 00:19:18.033
AND HOW THAT HAS -- THAT
HELPS US UNDERSTAND
00:19:18.133 --> 00:19:19.066
OUR OWN IDENTITY.
00:19:19.166 --> 00:19:20.966
RABBI KIRT:
YEAH, FOR SURE.
00:19:21.066 --> 00:19:22.966
SO LET ME KIND OF SET
THAT UP FOR A SECOND.
00:19:23.066 --> 00:19:26.133
BECAUSE ONE OF THE NAMES
THAT I COVER IN MY BOOK,
00:19:26.233 --> 00:19:27.100
TO KNOW HIM BY NAME,
00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:31.333
IS GOD'S PERSONAL
COVENANT NAME YAHWEH.
00:19:31.433 --> 00:19:34.266
MOST SEMITIC SCHOLARS BELIEVE
IT'S PRONOUNCED THAT WAY.
00:19:34.366 --> 00:19:37.700
IT'S COMPOSED OF THE FOUR HEBREW
LETTERS YODH HE WAW HE.
00:19:37.800 --> 00:19:40.167
AND SO THE LORD SAID TO
MOSES, YOUR FOREFATHERS,
00:19:40.267 --> 00:19:43.933
ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB
KNEW ME AS GOD ALMIGHTY
00:19:44.033 --> 00:19:45.766
AS EL SHADDAI,
00:19:45.866 --> 00:19:49.866
BUT MY MEMORIAL NAME
FOREVER IS YAHWEH.
00:19:49.966 --> 00:19:56.900
SO YAHWEH IS THE GOD AND FATHER
OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.733
AND THE COVENANT THAT'S
BEEN GIVEN TO US IS
00:19:59.833 --> 00:20:02.300
GIVEN TO US IN THE
NAME OF THE FATHER
00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:05.133
WHOSE NAME IS
YODH HE WAW HE.
00:20:05.233 --> 00:20:06.899
SO I COVER ALL
THAT IN THE BOOK.
00:20:06.999 --> 00:20:09.267
AND WHAT YODH HE
WAW HE DOES
00:20:09.367 --> 00:20:10.567
IN THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES,
00:20:10.667 --> 00:20:13.233
IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IS HE
REVEALS TO US WHO HE WANTS
00:20:13.333 --> 00:20:17.366
TO BE TO US AS FATHER
WHEN WE'RE IN COVENANT
00:20:17.466 --> 00:20:18.967
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
00:20:19.067 --> 00:20:20.366
SO WE HAVE YAHWEH
M'KADDESH,
00:20:20.466 --> 00:20:22.033
THE LORD OUR SANCTIFIER.
00:20:22.133 --> 00:20:25.533
YAHWEH NISSI, THE LORD
OUR VICTORY.
00:20:25.633 --> 00:20:27.733
YAHWEH RAPHA OR
YAHWEH ROPHEKA,
00:20:27.833 --> 00:20:29.233
THE LORD OUR HEALER.
00:20:29.333 --> 00:20:33.699
SO OUR FATHER WANTS TO BE
ALL THESE THINGS TO US
00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:36.300
WHEN WE'RE IN COVENANT
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:39.733
AND WHEN WE STUDY HOW YAHWEH
HAS REVEALED HIMSELF TO US
00:20:39.833 --> 00:20:41.333
IN THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES,
00:20:41.433 --> 00:20:43.733
WE BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT WE CAN TRUST
00:20:43.833 --> 00:20:47.333
THE FATHER TO DO FOR US IN
OUR LIFE WHEN WE'RE IN
00:20:47.433 --> 00:20:49.200
COVENANT RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIM.
00:20:49.300 --> 00:20:51.233
MOST SIMPLY SOMETHING
00:20:51.300 --> 00:20:55.767
THAT WE ALL NEED SO
DESPERATELY IS TO KNOW WHO
00:20:55.867 --> 00:20:57.333
WE ARE TO HIM.
00:20:57.433 --> 00:20:59.633
TO KNOW, I MEAN, TO
KNOW OURSELVES
00:20:59.733 --> 00:21:02.366
IN HIS LOVE AND
THAT HE LOVES US
00:21:02.466 --> 00:21:05.300
IN SUCH A WAY THAT EVEN,
YOU KNOW, CHRIST
00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:08.333
DIED FOR US WHEN WE
WERE YET SINNERS.
00:21:08.433 --> 00:21:09.499
LIKE THERE'S
CERTAIN THOUGHTS
00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:10.600
THAT WE HAVE ABOUT
OURSELVES THAT
00:21:10.700 --> 00:21:12.933
WE REJECT OURSELVES.
00:21:13.033 --> 00:21:15.367
A LOT OF SELF-REJECTION IS
GOING THROUGH OUR MINDS,
00:21:15.467 --> 00:21:18.367
BUT GOD LOVES
US COMPLETELY.
00:21:18.467 --> 00:21:19.666
LIKE CLINT EASTWOOD
SAID THE GOOD,
00:21:19.766 --> 00:21:20.733
THE BAD, AND THE UGLY.
00:21:20.833 --> 00:21:22.133
HE JUST LOVES US.
00:21:22.233 --> 00:21:24.733
CHRIST DIED FOR US WHEN WE
WERE YET SINNERS.
00:21:24.833 --> 00:21:30.033
TO ME, THERE IS A CONTINUAL
CALLING OUT TO THE LORD TO
00:21:30.133 --> 00:21:32.133
HELP ME TO KNOW
YOUR LOVE,
00:21:32.233 --> 00:21:34.433
TO KNOW WHO I AM TO YOU,
00:21:34.533 --> 00:21:36.366
AND TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
00:21:36.466 --> 00:21:39.100
IT'S SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND,
KNOCK AND THE DOOR
00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:40.233
SHALL BE OPENED.
00:21:40.333 --> 00:21:41.966
SO THIS IS PROGRESSIVE
REVELATION.
00:21:42.066 --> 00:21:43.799
IT COMES OVER A
LIFETIME OF SEEKING.
00:21:43.899 --> 00:21:44.866
AND FOR SOME REASON,
THE LORD
00:21:44.966 --> 00:21:49.066
HAS JUST ORDAINED THAT
WE HAVE TO SEEK TO FIND.
00:21:49.166 --> 00:21:50.200
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:21:50.300 --> 00:21:51.600
WELL, WE'RE ALMOST
OUT OF TIME.
00:21:51.700 --> 00:21:53.966
IS THERE ANY LAST WORDS
THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE
00:21:54.066 --> 00:21:55.167
WITH OUR AUDIENCE?
00:21:55.267 --> 00:21:57.800
RABBI KIRT: WHEN YOU KNOW
THAT GOD HAS A NAME,
00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:00.199
YODH HE WAW HE, YESHUA,
00:22:00.299 --> 00:22:03.499
WHAT THAT HELPS US TO DO
IS TO KNOW HE'S A PERSON.
00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:05.033
AND WHEN YOU KNOW THAT
GOD IS JUST NOT
00:22:05.133 --> 00:22:07.233
THE ALL-POWERFUL BEING
IN THE SKY.
00:22:07.333 --> 00:22:09.733
YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS
AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING
00:22:09.833 --> 00:22:11.466
HE WANTS AND
CREATED EVERYTHING.
00:22:11.566 --> 00:22:15.167
BUT WHEN YOU KNOW BEYOND
THAT, THAT HE'S A PERSON
00:22:15.267 --> 00:22:19.233
THAT'S SENSITIVE, LIKE
YAHWEH SAID TO THE HEBREW
00:22:19.333 --> 00:22:21.400
PEOPLE IN THE
BOOK OF EZEKIEL,
00:22:21.500 --> 00:22:23.900
HE ACTUALLY SAID TO EZEKIEL
ABOUT THE HEBREW PEOPLE,
00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:27.066
MY PEOPLE
HAVE HURT ME.
00:22:27.166 --> 00:22:31.333
WHEN WE REALIZE GOD'S A
PERSON THAT HAS FEELINGS,
00:22:31.433 --> 00:22:34.333
AND HE'S THE MOST
SENSITIVE BEING IN ALL OF
00:22:34.433 --> 00:22:37.433
CREATION, THAT WE CAN
EITHER BRING HIM PLEASURE
00:22:37.533 --> 00:22:38.699
OR HURT HIM,
00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.733
IT PUTS A RESPONSIBILITY
ON OUR LIVES TO WALK WITH
00:22:41.833 --> 00:22:43.666
THE HOLY SPIRIT IN
SENSITIVITY,
00:22:43.766 --> 00:22:45.399
TO BRING GOD PLEASURE,
00:22:45.499 --> 00:22:47.799
TO MOVE HIS HEART BY LOVING
HIM AND CHOOSING
00:22:47.899 --> 00:22:49.167
TO OBEY HIM.
00:22:49.267 --> 00:22:51.033
AND TO ALSO RECOGNIZE
THAT IF WE DON'T,
00:22:51.133 --> 00:22:53.133
WE CAN HURT HIM, AND
THAT THAT TO ME IS
00:22:53.233 --> 00:22:54.466
A BIG WAKE-UP CALL.
00:22:54.566 --> 00:22:56.667
REBECCA: AND THEN THE LAST
THING THAT CAME TO ME IS
00:22:56.767 --> 00:22:57.966
I DON'T KNOW THE
BEST WAY TO SAY IT.
00:22:58.066 --> 00:22:59.633
BUT WHAT IS YOUR HEART
REALLY FOR THE JEWISH
00:22:59.733 --> 00:23:02.000
PEOPLE WITH EVERYTHING
THAT YOU'RE DOING?
00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:05.000
WHAT HAS GOD PUT IN
YOUR HEART RECENTLY?
00:23:05.100 --> 00:23:07.067
RABBI KIRT: VERY STRONGLY,
VERY POWERFULLY
00:23:07.167 --> 00:23:11.166
THE LORD SPOKE TO ME
ACTS 2:22, MEN OF ISRAEL,
00:23:11.266 --> 00:23:13.767
LISTEN TO THESE WORDS.
00:23:13.867 --> 00:23:17.167
YESHUA OF NAZARETH,
JESUS THE NAZARENE, A MAN
00:23:17.267 --> 00:23:21.133
ATTESTED TO YOU BY MIRACLES,
SIGNS AND WONDERS.
00:23:21.233 --> 00:23:24.367
JUST AS YOU YOURSELF KNOW
WAS PUT TO DEATH THROUGH
00:23:24.467 --> 00:23:26.633
THE HANDS OF GODLESS MEN,
00:23:26.733 --> 00:23:28.467
BUT GOD RAISED HIM
UP AGAIN.
00:23:28.567 --> 00:23:31.733
FOR ME, WHAT ISRAEL NEEDS MORE
THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS TO
00:23:31.833 --> 00:23:34.133
BE CONFRONTED
WITH THE GOSPEL.
00:23:34.233 --> 00:23:37.967
WE NEED BOLD PREACHERS IN
ISRAEL AND TO JEWS ALL OVER
00:23:38.067 --> 00:23:41.033
THE WORLD WHOSE BOLD
WITNESS, WHOSE BOLD
00:23:41.133 --> 00:23:43.133
PROCLAMATION OF THE
KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS
00:23:43.233 --> 00:23:47.399
FOLLOWED BY IRREFUTABLE
SIGNS AND WONDERS.
00:23:47.499 --> 00:23:50.400
THAT'S HOW THE CHURCH WAS
BUILT IN ISRAEL ORIGINALLY
00:23:50.500 --> 00:23:52.066
AND THAT'S HOW IT'S
GOING TO BE BUILT TODAY.
00:23:52.166 --> 00:23:54.200
BOLDNESS FOLLOWED BY
SIGNS AND WONDERS.
00:23:54.300 --> 00:23:55.433
REBECCA: THAT'S SO POWERFUL.
00:23:55.533 --> 00:23:57.366
WELL, RABBI, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
00:23:57.466 --> 00:23:59.733
TO GET HIS NEW BOOK,
TO KNOW HIM BY NAME ,
00:23:59.833 --> 00:24:01.799
WE ONLY SCRATCHED A LITTLE
BIT OF THE SURFACE.
00:24:01.899 --> 00:24:03.300
SO FOR PEOPLE WHO
ARE INTERESTED,
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:04.333
WHERE CAN THEY GET THAT?
00:24:04.433 --> 00:24:05.233
RABBI KIRT: THEY CAN --
00:24:05.333 --> 00:24:06.633
PROBABLY THE EASIEST
PLACE IS AMAZON.
00:24:06.733 --> 00:24:08.733
THEY CAN GO TO MY WEBSITE
DISCOVERING THE JEWISH JESUS,
00:24:08.833 --> 00:24:09.566
EITHER ONE.
00:24:09.666 --> 00:24:10.100
REBECCA: AWESOME.
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:10.766
WELL, THANK YOU
00:24:10.866 --> 00:24:11.900
SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:12.833
RABBI KIRT: THANK YOU.
00:24:12.933 --> 00:24:14.466
GREAT TO BE WITH YOU,
REBECCA LAMB.
00:24:14.566 --> 00:24:15.933
REBECCA: AND THANK YOU
FOR LISTENING TO
00:24:16.033 --> 00:24:17.167
THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.
00:24:17.267 --> 00:24:18.299
RABBI KIRT: THE REBECCA
WEISS PODCAST.
00:24:18.399 --> 00:24:18.899
[ LAUGHTER ]