DALE MAST: IN THE BEGINNING, WE SEE LUCIFER.
HE FELL AND WAS THROWN OUT OF HIS HOME.
HE WAS THE FIRST ORPHAN.
HE CAME DOWN ON A SNAKE IN A GARDEN.
IT WAS PERFECT, TWO PERFECT PEOPLE.
AND HE PUT HIS ORPHAN SPIRIT ON THEM AND SAID,
YOU KNOW, DID GOD REALLY MEAN THAT?
AND YOU'RE MISSING SOMETHING.
THEY HAD IT ALL.
HE IS THE FIRST ORPHAN TRYING TO MAKE EVERY PERSON
GOD CREATED TO CARRY HIS DISEASE.
AND THIS IS THE DEAL.
ONCE YOU'RE SAVED,
HE KNOWS HE'S LOST YOUR SOUL.
THE THING HE'S AFTER IS YOUR DESTINY.
BECAUSE IF YOU FULFILL YOUR DESTINY,
YOU CRUSH HIS KINGDOM.
REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HI.
DALE: HI, REBECCA.
GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
REBECCA: I'VE NEVER STARTED OFF WITH JUST A HI.
I THINK I MUST FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOU.
FOR EVERYONE WHO'S WATCHING,
TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT,
I FOUND YOU ON A PODCAST,
PROBABLY DURING ONE OF THE HARDEST TIMES OF MY LIFE.
AND IT JUST BROUGHT ME SO MUCH ENCOURAGEMENT.
AND SO I WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE
I TOLD MY TEAM THAT I WANTED TO HAVE YOU ON.
LOOK, THEY HAVE TISSUES FOR ME.
AND THEN, NEXT THING I KNEW,
I LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR AND YOU'RE HERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR BOOK,
WHICH IS CALLED --
HOLD ON, LET ME GATHER MYSELF.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT YOUR BOOK,
AND DAVID PERCEIVED HE WAS KING .
DALE: YES.
REBECCA: I JUST NEED A SECOND, I'M UPSET.
DALE: IT'S OKAY.
YOU KNOW, REBECCA, WHILE YOU'RE JUST HAVING THIS MOMENT,
I NEVER -- I NEVER FIGHT THE TEARS.
I JUST LET THEM BE A HEALING TO MY HEART.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO WEEP WITH THOSE WHO WEEP,
AND REJOICE WITH THOSE WHO REJOICE.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO CRY OVER,
YOU'VE NEVER LIVED VERY LONG,
AND GOD SAID HE HOLDS OUR TEARS IN HEAVEN.
WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS,
WHAT BREAKS OUR HEART TOUCHES HIS.
AND WHEN YOU'RE HONEST BEFORE THE LORD,
YOU CAN ADVANCE WITH AUTHORITY
BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE BROKEN BEFORE HIM,
THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OUR STRENGTH.
AND I'VE BEEN IN MANY TIMES
WHERE I'VE BEEN WEEPING BEFORE THE LORD,
AND I FOUND HIM IN NEW WAYS.
DEEPER THAN SOMETIMES EVEN MY PRAISE.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT WAS THE END OF ME
AND THE BEGINNING OF HIM.
SOMETIMES IT WAS SURRENDERING A HURT TO HIM.
AND SOMETIMES IT WAS THE HEALING OF
PAST WORDS SPOKEN AGAINST ME
THAT WERE ACTUALLY BLOCKING MY PATH
AND MY PURPOSE.
BUT THERE'S A CLEANSING IN TEARS.
THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE WATCHING RIGHT NOW
THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS,
THEY MIGHT NEED TO GRAB A BOX OF KLEENEXES
FOR THEMSELVES BECAUSE THERE'S HEALING
IN HIS PRESENCE, BUT THERE'S ALSO TEARS.
REBECCA: YEAH, LOTS OF TEARS.
BUT THEY CAN BE HEALING.
DALE: YES.
REBECCA: BUT, YES, THANK YOU.
THAT WAS REALLY GREAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND YOUR BOOK,
ANDDAVID PERCEIVED YOU AS KING,
WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT.
BUT I WATCHED YOU ON A PODCAST,
AND IT JUST HELPED ME THROUGH SUCH A DIFFICULT MOMENT.
I REALLY FEEL LIKE GOD BRINGS THE RIGHT THINGS
IN THE RIGHT TIMES
RIGHT WHEN YOU NEED IT THE MOST.
AND JUST EVERYTHING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
WAS JUST MINISTERING SO MUCH TO ME
IN THE POSITION THAT I WAS IN
AND GAVE ME ENCOURAGEMENT TO KIND OF KEEP GOING,
WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS
YOU TALK ABOUT, IS THE DAVID TEST
AND WHEN THE LADDER OF SUCCESS IS SEEMINGLY KICKED OUT --
OR NOT THE LADDER,
THE LADDER TO YOUR DESTINY --
DALE: THE NATURAL LADDER.
REBECCA: -- IS KICKED OUT FROM UNDER YOU. WILL YOU TRUST GOD
TO TAKE YOU TO WHERE HE'S CALLED YOU TO BE?
DALE: I CALL IT THE NATURAL LADDER, TOO, OF MY PLANS.
HE BURNS IN FRONT OF ME.
AND THEN I SAID, GOD,
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
THEN HE DROPS A LONGER LADDER,
ACTUALLY, GIVES ME AN ELEVATOR, AND JUST TAKES ME UP TO A LEVEL
I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD. AND, ACTUALLY, WHAT WE THOUGHT
WAS THE PATH WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN
SOMETHING MUCH LESS THAN HE EVER DREAMED FOR YOU.
IT'S HARDER THAN YOU THINK. IT'LL REQUIRE SEVERAL MIRACLES,
BUT YOU'LL END UP IN A PLACE
YOUR LADDER COULD HAVE NEVER TAKEN YOU.
REBECCA: YEAH, THAT'S SO GOOD.
THIS BOOK IS SO GREAT. AND YOU TALK ABOUT IDENTITY
AND YOU KNOW IDENTITY.
I WENT TO BIBLE SCHOOL AND IT'S LIKE, YOU THINK YOU UNDERSTAND
A TOPIC, AND YOU'RE REALLY JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF IT.
AND I FELT LIKE I UNDERSTOOD,
OH, I'M A CHILD OF GOD,
BUT GOD'S TAKING ME INTO SUCH A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING
OF IDENTITY, AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR A BELIEVER TO UNDERSTAND
IS WHO WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE,
HOW IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT
IN THE BOOK IS HOW THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL,
HOW GOD TOOK THEM OUT OF EGYPT WHERE THEY WERE SLAVES,
BUT THEY COULDN'T INHERIT THE PROMISE
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHO THEY WERE
AND WHO GOD WAS.
DALE: WELL, SEE, ONLY TWO PEOPLE ACTUALLY RETAINED
THE IDENTITY OF BEING SONS UNDER GOD, AND THAT WAS JOSHUA
AND CALEB.
EVERYBODY ELSE ACTUALLY WENT INTO A SLAVE MENTALITY.
SO THE OTHER TWO WERE IN SLAVERY,
BUT THEY NEVER LET IT CHANGE THEIR IDENTITY.
SO WHEN THEY SAW THE GIANTS,
THEY SAID, WE'RE WELL ABLE. AND, ACTUALLY, WHERE IT
REALLY COMES OUT WHEN GOD SAID TO ALL OF ISRAEL,
I WANT TO COME UP.
I WANT TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU.
WHAT ISRAEL SAID TO MOSES,
HE SAID THIS --
THEY SAID THIS.
YOU GO UP.
TALK TO HIM.
COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT TO DO.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USED TO IN EGYPT.
YOU GO TO PHARAOH AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND TELL US
WHAT TO DO.
WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO TALK TO GOD.
JUST TELL US WHAT TO DO. AND SO THEY REALLY GAVE UP SONSHIP
AND THEY JUST BECOMING OBEDIENT SERVANTS.
NOT EVEN SERVANTS.
ALMOST A SLAVERY SERVANT.
REBECCA: BECAUSE OF THAT, WHEN THOSE 12 SPIES, LIKE YOU SAID,
WENT INTO THE LAND, TEN OF THEM LOOKED AT THE GIANTS
AND THEY SAID, THERE'S NO WAY.
WE'RE LIKE GRASSHOPPERS IN THEIR SIGHT.
BUT JOSHUA AND CALEB, THEY SAW IT DIFFERENTLY
BECAUSE THEY HAD A DIFFERENT PERCEPTION.
DALE: SO REALLY, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, WE SEE OURSELVES
AS GRASSHOPPERS, AND THE GIANTS AGREED.
THINK ABOUT IT.
IT WASN'T THE GIANTS SAW THEM THAT WAY.
THEY SAW THEMSELVES THAT WAY. AND SEE, IF YOU DON'T --
WHEN DAVID RAN TOWARD GOLIATH,
HE SAW GOD BIGGER THAN GOLIATH.
AND WHEN HE RAN, HE BELIEVED GOD RAN.
AND GOD DID.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: AND SO DAVID HAD A BIGGER VISION.
AND IF YOU'RE LIVING YOUR LIFE WITHOUT A GOD
IN THE MIDST OF YOU,
NOW, THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE.
WE SAY, ABIDE IN CHRIST, CHRIST ABIDES IN US.
I'M JUST SAYING GOD MADE YOU IN HIS LIKENESS AND IMAGE
SO HE COULD FIT IN YOU AND YOU COULD FIT IN HIM.
IF I HAD BEEN GOD, I WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THAT.
I WOULD HAVE -- I'D SAY YOU JUST HAVE TO SERVE ME
FROM A DISTANCE.
AREN'T YOU GLAD I'M NOT GOD?
AND I'M GLAD MOST OTHER PEOPLE
AREN'T, EITHER, BECAUSE WE WOULD NEVER THINK
THAT WHAT GOD SAID IS, I'M GOING TO BUILD YOU
SO I CAN ACTUALLY I CAN FIT IN YOU.
BUT THE OTHER SIDE IS YOU CAN FIT IN ME.
SO WHEN YOUR IDENTITY COMES FROM THE FATHER,
THERE ARE TIMES HE WILL COME INSIDE OF ME TO DO THINGS.
THERE'S OTHER TIMES I STEP INTO HIM TO DO SOMETHING,
AND HE'S JUST AS HAPPY WHEN I STEP INTO HIM
AND SAY, COME ON, GOD.
LET'S DO IT.
I MEAN, SOMETIMES, I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW,
I'M GETTING READY TO DO A MEETING, AND THE WAY I KEEP
MY ANOINTING SHARP IS NOT BY PROPHESYING TO PEOPLE
OR TEACHING.
IT'S MINISTERING TO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING,
BECAUSE WHEN YOU MINISTER OUTSIDE OF A MEETING,
IT KEEPS YOU REAL.
REBECCA: YEAH, IT KEEPS YOU GROUNDED.
DALE: YEAH.
IF EVERYTHING YOU DO IN GOD IS ALWAYS IN A MEETING,
YOU BECOME WEIRD.
OKAY.
SO I AM,
I'M NOT JUST A PROPHET LIKE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN DALLAS.
I'VE MINISTERED TO PROBABLY 14 PEOPLE PROPHETICALLY.
AND THE REASON BEING IS THIS:
AN EVANGELIST WORKS FOR YOUR SOUL, BUT A PROPHET WARS
FOR YOUR IDENTITY.
WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SAVED FOR IS GREATER
THAN WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SAVED FROM, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO BE
SAVED FROM IT. IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR IDENTITY,
AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THIS.
HOW DO WE SEE OURSELVES? ARE WE SINNERS SAVED?
THAT'S TRUE, BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT THE REAL THING.
GOD CREATED YOU, REBECCA, AS A WINNER. SIN MADE YOU A LOSER.
YOU WERE BORN AGAIN TO WIN AGAIN.
YOU'RE NOT A LOSER THAT GOD'S TRYING TO HELP.
YOU'RE A WINNER THAT GOT BACK YOUR RIGHTS TO WIN.
REBECCA: AMEN.
DALE: WHEN GOD CREATED YOU, HE NEVER PLANNED ON LOSING
THROUGH YOU.
HE PLANNED ON WINNING THROUGH YOU,
BUT YOU NEEDED HIM TO DO IT, AND UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY MOVE
WHERE YOU START FITTING IN HIM,
ALLOWING HIM TO FIT IN YOU,
YOU'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE HIDDEN GENIUS
THAT HE PUT IN YOU.
I NEVER THOUGHT I'D WRITE A BOOK
THAT'S NINE LANGUAGES, GOING TO 11.
SO THIS IS THE ONLY QUESTION.
WHAT DOES GOD KNOW ABOUT YOU THAT YOU'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF?
BUT IF YOU'LL ENTER INTO HIM,
IT JUST STARTS TO UNFOLD YOUR GENIUS.
REBECCA: HOW DOES SOMEONE DO THAT?
DALE: WELL, I REALLY BELIEVE, LIKE DAVID,
YOU'RE NOT AFTER YOUR MINISTRY, YOU'RE AFTER HIS HEART.
IF I'M AFTER THE HEART OF GOD, THEN EVERYTHING
THAT'S IN HIS HEART CONCERNING MY LIFE
HE BRINGS IN FRONT OF ME, BECAUSE IF I LOVE HIM FIRST,
THEN HE KNOWS THAT ANYTHING HE GIVES ME WILL NOT RUIN ME.
REBECCA: AMEN, YEAH.
DALE: AND MOST PEOPLE LIKE IF THEY DON'T PUT GOD FIRST,
ANYTHING THEY GET, WE READ IN THE OLD TESTAMENT,
IT BECOMES AN IDOL.
SO THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU SOLD OUT ENOUGH TO HANDLE
THE BEST OF HEAVEN AND STILL GIVE HIM ALL THE GLORY?
I PUT IT THIS WAY.
YOU KNOW IN THE BIBLE
IT SAYS WHAT? IT SAYS: HE WILL SHARE HIS GLORY WITH NO MAN.
JOHN 17.
JESUS.
PRAISE THE LORD.
THE GLORY OF HEAVEN
I GIVE TO THEM.
SO WHICH IS TRUE? THEY'RE BOTH TRUE.
HOW MUCH GLORY CAN YOU HANDLE
BEFORE YOU START SHOPLIFTING?
SO IN OTHER WORDS,
I NEED GLORY FOR WHAT I'M CALLED TO DO,
BUT AFTER I DO IT, DO I GIVE HIM ALL THE GLORY BACK?
IF YOU CAN GIVE HIM ALL THE GLORY BACK,
THEN HE'LL START GIVING YOU MORE.
BUT IF YOU GET STUCK, HE'D RATHER NOT RUIN YOUR LIFE
WITH PRIDE, BECAUSE PRIDE, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER,
THE ORIGINAL SIN IS NOT LUST.
IT'S PRIDE. AND PRIDE IS WHAT LITERALLY THE ENEMY HAS,
CAN TAKE AND BODY SLAM ANY CHRISTIAN.
AND IT CAN BE THROUGH A LITTLE THING. SO TO ME, TRUE HUMILITY
IS NOT ME BEING WHAT I CALL RELIGIOUSLY HUMBLE.
YEAH, IT'S GIVING GOD ALL THE GLORY ALL THE TIME,
LIFTING HIM UP
SO PEOPLE KNOW HE IS USING ME, BUT I GIVE HIM ALL THE GLORY.
BUT WITHOUT ME, IT'S BEYOND ME, BUT IT'S NOT WITHOUT ME.
WHAT GOD'S ABOUT TO DO ON THIS EARTH,
REBECCA, IS BEYOND YOU, BUT IT'S NOT WITHOUT YOU.
REBECCA: I LOVE -- I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME
WAS YOU FOUND SUCH A GOOD BALANCE BECAUSE I KIND OF
GREW UP WITH THAT.
OH, YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
PEOPLE,
IT'S ALMOST LIKE BE HARD ON THEMSELVES.
DALE: OH, YEAH.
REBECCA: LIKE THINK LOW OF THEMSELVES LIKE BAD,
POORLY OF THEMSELVES,
AND GOD DOESN'T THINK POORLY OF US.
HE LOVES US. AND LIKE YOU SAID, HE HAS AN --
WE HAVE AN IDENTITY IN HIM.
WE HAVE A PURPOSE. AND HE PARTNERS WITH US.
AND WHAT I LOVE IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH GLORY
CAN YOU HANDLE BEFORE YOU START SHOPLIFTING IT?
AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE PERFECT PARTNERSHIP
IS JESUS IN THE FATHER,
BECAUSE HE GAVE JESUS HIS GLORY ON EARTH,
YOU KNOW, BUT HE ALWAYS GAVE ALL THE GLORY BACK TO THE FATHER,
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, HE WAS SEATED
AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER.
AND SO IT'S LIKE HE'S OUR PERFECT MODEL,
JESUS IS, THAT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HOLD ANY OF IT ON,
BUT GIVE IT ALL BACK TO HIM.
DALE: NOW, DO YOU KNOW
WHAT THE NUMBER ONE ENTRANCE POINT
THE ENEMY HAS FOR PRIDE IS? INSECURITY.
REBECCA: YES.
DALE: IF I'M INSECURE,
I USE PRIDE TO MAKE UP TO MAKE ME SO I'M OKAY.
AND BECAUSE I THINK I'M NOT OKAY
AND MAYBE I'M AFRAID,
REBECCA, YOU DON'T THINK I'M OKAY.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU HOW GOOD I AM.
AND NOW BECOMES PRIDE.
IT BECOMES ABOUT ME.
NOW, NOBODY SHOULD EVER BE AFRAID TO SHARE
HOW GOD HAS USED THEM, GIVING GOD THE GLORY.
SO WHAT WE HAVE LOST,
I WROTE A BOOK ON THIS CALLEDTWO SONS AND THE FATHER ,
BUT THE PRODIGAL WASN'T RESTORED
WHEN HE GOT THE RING, THE ROBE, THE SANDALS.
HE WAS RESTORED WHEN HE ENTERED THE CELEBRATION
IN HIS FATHER'S HOUSE.
UNTIL YOU FEEL A CELEBRATION FROM FATHER GOD,
YOU ARE NOT RESTORED.
YOU JUST HAVE THE STUFF.
YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
YOU HAVE THE FAVOR.
YOU CAN DO BUSINESS.
THAT'S WHAT THOSE SANDALS REPRESENTED.
BUT WHEN HE ENTERED THE FATHER'S CELEBRATION, THAT WAS LITERALLY
THE REBIRTHING OF THE PRODIGAL.
AND UNTIL WE FEEL THE CELEBRATION OF FATHER GOD,
AND THE BIBLE SAYS HE SINGS OVER US,
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. GOD WANTS TO CELEBRATE YOU.
SO I'LL SEND A PERSON TO YOU, SAY, REBECCA, YOU'RE AWESOME.
YOU SAY,
WELL, THAT WAS NOTHING.
THAT WASN'T ME.
IT WAS GOD. AND GOD'S LIKE,
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.
WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, LIKE, REBECCA?
COME OUT OF THAT SPIRIT OF RELIGION
BECAUSE IT'S A FALSE WAY OF HUMILITY, WHICH ACTUALLY WARS
AGAINST YOUR PURPOSE.
YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT PEOPLE AND SAY,
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT GOD MADE ME FOR, AND I FEEL HIS JOY,
I FEEL HIS PRESENCE WHEN I ENTER INTO IT.
AND THEN WHAT I SAY TO PEOPLE IS, I HAD THIS ONE YOUNG GUY
SAID, DALE,
YOU KNOW THAT PROPHETIC THING?
YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT IT.
I SAID,
I KNOW.
I SAID, THAT'S WHAT GOD MADE ME FOR. I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WHAT WERE YOU MADE FOR? BECAUSE WHATEVER IT IS,
YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AT IT.
SO I JUST BRING OTHER PEOPLE UP.
BUT I WON'T PUT MYSELF DOWN. IN THE WORLD,
WHEN PEOPLE WOULD SAY, HEY, YOU'RE AWESOME.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY? I KNOW. IN THE CHURCH LIKE,
OH, NO, I CAN'T DO THAT. PRIDE.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY START BEATING OURSELVES UP,
THINKING IT'S SPIRITUAL, AS IF WE HAVE TO BEAT OURSELVES DOWN
INSTEAD OF JUST LIFTING OUR HANDS AND LIFTING HIM UP.
THAT'S TRUE HUMILITY. THE OTHER IS JUST RELIGIOUS GARBAGE.
REBECCA: YEAH, IT'S MAN'S VERSION
OF TRYING TO HANDLE PRIDE.
IT'S NOT GOD'S WAY.
WHAT'S THE BALANCE?
SO HOW DO YOU NOT FALL INTO PRIDE,
BUT HOW DO YOU BE SECURE IN YOUR IDENTITY?
DALE: WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
I ASKED PEOPLE,
DO YOU LIKE YOURSELF?
OR DO YOU WANT TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE?
IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOURSELF,
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A JUDGMENT AGAINST GOD.
NOW, CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS? THINK ABOUT THIS.
IF YOU DREW A PICTURE AND YOU GAVE IT TO ME
AND I SAY, I HATE THAT PICTURE,
THAT'S A PARTIAL REJECTION OF YOUR TALENT.
WHEN GOD PUT ME TOGETHER AND I SAY, GOD, YOU KNOW, COULD I --
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DEEPER VOICE AS A PROPHET
THAT I SANG TENOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAID,
OH, DALE, GOOD TO TALK TO YOU.
AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S A MAN, A WOMAN.
SO MA'AM, IS THERE
ANY WAY I CAN HELP YOU?
I'M LIKE,
UH, THIS IS DALE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE,
WHY DID I HAVE TO GET A NAME?
WHY COULDN'T IT BE STEVE? THAT WAY,
EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW. SO GROWING UP,
I HAD TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT I DIDN'T HAVE
THAT BOOMING LOW VOICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU EVER FIND YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR VOICE
LISTENING TO IT?
REBECCA: OH, I HATE MY VOICE.
DALE: OKAY.
REBECCA: IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT.
DALE: OKAY.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, EVERYBODY HATES THEIR VOICE.
YOU KNOW WHY? PART OF IT IS WHEN YOU TALK, YOUR EARS,
YOU HEAR YOURSELF DIFFERENTLY
BECAUSE YOUR VOICE IS COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
YOU ACTUALLY SOUND DIFFERENT.
WHY DOES EVERYBODY HATE THEIR VOICE?
NOBODY ELSE,
IT DIDN'T BOTHER ANYBODY ELSE.
IT'S THE ENEMY TRYING TO TAKE AWAY AND FOR YOU TO JUDGE
WHO YOU ARE
SO YOU WON'T USE YOUR GIFT. IN IT,
IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH WHO GOD MADE YOU,
YOU ACTUALLY ARE JUDGING HIM. WHEN I SAY, LORD,
I THANK YOU FOR THE GIFTS YOU GAVE ME.
I THANK YOU FOR SOME OF THE GIFTS
YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME TO MAKE IT EASIER TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT I SHOULD DO.
IF THAT IS TRUE, THEN I'M ACTUALLY --
THAT'S PART OF MY WORSHIP
AND THAT'S PART OF THE STRENGTH, AND YOU KNOW
THAT WHEN YOU THANK GOD FOR WHO YOU ARE,
THAT'S REALLY WHERE SECURITY STARTS TO COME INTO.
AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR
AND JUST SAY,
THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THE WAY YOU'VE MADE ME.
LOOK AT YOURSELF AND QUIT CRITICIZING
EVEN THE WAY YOU LOOK.
WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW,
IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME
TO COME TO THAT PLACE.
IT'S NOT AN EASY JOURNEY,
BUT WHERE YOU ACTUALLY THANK GOD FOR THE WAY HE MADE YOU.
AND I'M TELLING YOU AGAIN, THAT'S A RELEASE.
ANYTHING YOU'RE UNTHANKFUL FOR,
WE KNOW IT DOESN'T GO WELL.
WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT TO PRAISE GOD FOR EVERYTHING
EXCEPT PRAISING HIM FOR WHO HE MADE US.
DAVID, THEY SAID, I AM FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE.
HE IS PRAISING GOD.
THERE'S A PRAISE FOR GOD OF THE CREATION.
AND CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT A COMPLIMENT IT IS TO GOD?
ACTUALLY, THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE WAY I MADE THEM.
I'M SO TIRED OF HEARING COMPLAINTS.
REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE YOU THINK, AS A PARENT,
YOU WOULD NEVER WANT YOUR KIDS TO --
DALE: TO LOOK UP AT YOU AND SAY, I WISH YOU WEREN'T MY PARENTS,
BECAUSE I LOOK LIKE YOU.
REBECCA: YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS,
THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC TO ADDRESS
BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH REJECTION
AND INSECURITY,
AND IF THEY DO NOT HAVE A HEALTHY GOD-FORMED IDENTITY,
THEY WILL OPERATE FROM THAT ORPHAN PLACE,
THAT INSECURE PLACE.
AND WREAK HAVOC TRYING TO FILL THAT VOID,
TRYING TO GET THE AFFIRMATION OF PEOPLE,
AND IT'S A MONSTER IN MINISTRY.
BECAUSE IT WILL JUST, YOU KNOW, INSECURE PEOPLE
THAT BECOME PRIDEFUL.
IT'S A RECIPE FOR DISASTER IN MINISTRY.
BUT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO FORM A GOOD, HEALTHY
IDENTITY AND SECURITY IN HIM,
BECAUSE WE NEED A MINISTER FROM HIM,
NOT TRYING TO GET SOMETHING FROM PEOPLE.
DALE: FROM PEOPLE. ALSO, NOW, THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY:
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BE WHAT YOU THINK PEOPLE WANT YOU TO BE
SO THEY'LL ACCEPT YOU,
DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH THAT,
THAT MAKES ME TIRED
EVEN SAYING IT.
NOW, THIS IS A DEAL.
IF I AM WHAT I THINK, IF I'M TRYING TO BE HERE NOW,
I'M GONNA TRY TO BE WHAT REBECCA WANTS ME TO BE,
WHICH I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK I'LL FIGURE IT OUT,
WHICH IS A LOT OF WORK.
IF YOU ACCEPT ME AS I TRY TO BE WHAT YOU WANT ME TO BE,
YOU'VE NOT REALLY ACCEPTED ME,
SO IT NEVER HITS A HOME RUN.
BUT IF I'M SIMPLY WHO I AM,
THEN YOU, AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT
JUST REALLY BEING WHO YOU ARE
THAT'S REFRESHING.
I'M SO TIRED OF EVERYBODY TRYING TO LOOK LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE.
REBECCA: I KNOW.
DALE: BUT WHEN YOU'RE YOU AND THEN PEOPLE RECEIVE YOU,
NOW, YOU ACTUALLY ARE RECEIVED FOR WHO YOU ARE,
NOT FOR WHO YOU PRETEND TO BE, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO
WAKE UP AND PRETEND THE NEXT DAY.
REBECCA: YEAH, AND THAT'S THAT ENDLESS CYCLE THAT PEOPLE ARE ON
BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN ORPHANED HEART.
DALE: OR AN ORPHAN SPIRIT, AND SO IN IT,
I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHERE DID THE ORPHAN SPIRIT COME FROM?
IN THE BEGINNING,
WE SEE LUCIFER,
WHO THAT WAS HIS NAME, BRIGHT MORNING STAR.
HE WOULD NOT WORSHIP GOD,
HE FELL AND WAS THROWN OUT OF HIS HOME CALLED HEAVEN.
HE WAS THE FIRST ORPHAN.
HE CAME DOWN AS A SNAKE IN A GARDEN
THAT WAS PERFECT, TWO PERFECT PEOPLE
AND HE PUT HIS ORPHAN SPIRIT ON THEM AND SAID,
YOU KNOW, DID GOD REALLY MEAN THAT?
AND YOU'RE MISSING SOMETHING. THEY HAD IT ALL,
BUT HE ACTUALLY CAUSED THEM TO FEEL INSECURITY, WENT,
WELL, IF WE DO THIS, WE'LL BE BETTER,
WHICH IS AN ORPHAN SPIRIT.
I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
REBECCA: WOW.
I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
DALE: SO REALLY, WHAT THE DEVIL IS DOING,
HE IS THE FIRST ORPHAN TRYING TO MAKE EVERY PERSON GOD CREATED
TO CARRY HIS DISEASE.
REBECCA: AND HE LIED ABOUT THE FATHER, TOO.
HE SOWED THAT SEED OF,
OH, HE'S HOLDING SOMETHING BACK FROM YOU.
YOU MIGHT NOT LETTING YOU EAT FROM THIS TREE,
HE'S LYING TO YOU.
YOU COULD BECOME LIKE GOD.
AND IT WAS A TOTAL LIE.
DALE: AND THE TRUTH WAS,
HE LIED ABOUT GOD, THEN HE LIED ABOUT THEM,
AND THEY BIT THE APPLE, SO TO SPEAK.
REBECCA: AND HE'S BEEN DOING THE SAME THING EVER SINCE.
DALE: BECAUSE IF I CAN CAUSE YOU TO NOT ACCEPT YOURSELF,
THEN I CAN LITERALLY PLAY THE FIELD WITH YOUR LIFE
THROUGH HURT EVENTS TO MAKE YOU FEEL WORTHLESS.
AND THIS IS THE DEAL: ONCE YOU'RE SAVED,
HE KNOWS HE'S LOST YOUR SOUL.
THE THING HE'S AFTER IS YOUR DESTINY,
BECAUSE IF YOU FULFILL YOUR DESTINY, YOU CRUSH HIS KINGDOM.
SO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS TAKE YOU OUT OF THE GAME,
LOSE YOUR POSITION.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IDENTITY FOR A MINUTE.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SONSHIP.
THAT'S THE FOUNDATION OF ENTRANCE POINT.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU'RE A SON OR A DAUGHTER TO GOD,
THEN EVERYTHING I WRITE ON IDENTITY DOES NOT MATTER
BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BASIS.
AND WHEN I PUT IT THIS WAY,
IT TAKES A SON TO BUY A SON, IT TAKES A SON OF GOD
TO RESTORE SONS AND DAUGHTERS. BUT IF I SAID,
IF A -- LET'S SUPPOSE YOU GOT A CONTRACT
PLAYING PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL AND EVERYONE WOULD SAY, GREAT,
WHAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION THEY ASK?
REBECCA: WHO YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY FOR?
DALE: WHO YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY FOR, WHAT'S THE ONE
AFTER THAT, WHAT POSITION?
REBECCA: OH, YEAH.
DALE: WHAT'S YOUR POSITION?
OKAY.
NOW, I USE IT AND SAY,
WELL, YOU KNOW, I WAS -- I GOT A CONTRACT TO BE THE POINT GUARD.
BUT AFTER YOU GET ON THE TEAM, SAY,
YOU KNOW,
I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT.
I WANT TO BE THE CENTER. THE COACH SAYS, I HAVE A PROBLEM.
I GAVE YOU A CONTRACT TO BE A POINT GUARD.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY POINT GUARD,
WE HAVE NO CONTRACT.
YOU'LL STILL GO TO HEAVEN, BUT YOU'LL NOT HELP THE TEAM WIN.
SO YOU HAVE TO FIND YOUR POSITION
SO THAT YOU CAN GROW IN YOUR GENIUS
TO START MAKING THE TEAM WIN. IN BASEBALL,
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER EXAMPLE.
EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM HITS, THROWS THE BALL, BATS, CATCHES.
BUT THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PITCHER
AND THE CATCHER. I HAD A FRIEND WHO WAS A PASTOR
WHO WENT ON, DRAFTED BY THE YANKEES.
AND HE WAS A PITCHER.
THERE WERE THREE OTHER PITCHERS
THAT WERE BETTER THAN HIM.
THEY CAME TO HIM AND SAID, YOU'RE A GREAT CATCH.
YOU CAN CATCH. YOUR ARM IS STRONG ENOUGH,
STRONGER THAN THE CATCHER WE HAVE.
YOU'RE AS GOOD A HITTER.
WE WANT YOU TO CATCH.
HE SAID, IF I CAN'T PITCH,
I'M NOT GOING TO BE ON THE TEAM.
THEY CUT HIM.
HE COULD HAVE BEEN THE CATCHER. AND THEY WON THREE WORLD SERIES
THAT HE NEVER WAS A PART OF
BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT LET THEM COACH HIM INTO HIS GENIUS.
HE WAS STUCK ON WHAT HE WANTED TO DO.
SO MICHAEL JORDAN, AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THIS,
YOU MAY NOT KNOW HIM AS WELL.
SOME PEOPLE --
REBECCA: OH, YEAH, I KNOW MICHAEL, YEAH.
DALE: OKAY.
SO MICHAEL JORDAN WAS NOT THE GREATEST ATHLETE.
PEOPLE WILL SAY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
REBECCA: OH, YEAH, THAT'S THROWING ME OFF.
DALE: SAY BASEBALL, THEN SAY BASKETBALL.
REBECCA: OH.
DALE: IF HE WOULD HAVE PLAYED BASEBALL,
WE WOULD NEVER KNOW HIS NAME.
HE LOVED BOTH.
BUT BASEBALL WAS NOT HIS GENIUS.
HE WENT, AFTER ONE YEAR IN BASEBALL,
HE WENT BACK TO ANOTHER THREEPEAT,
BECAUSE HE REALIZED EVEN THOUGH
HE LOVED BOTH, HIS GENIUS WAS BASKETBALL.
I DON'T WANT YOU,
MICHAEL JORDAN, PLAYING BASEBALL.
HE COULD BUY THE TEAM
HE COULDN'T PLAY ON.
SOME PEOPLE ARE IN LOVE WITH THINGS THAT, ACTUALLY,
THEY'RE NOT GOOD AT. SOME PEOPLE HAVE WHAT I CALL
INTUITIVELY GIFTED IN AREAS THAT THEY DON'T EVEN
TAKE SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THEY'RE SO GOOD AT IT INTUITIVELY.
THEY DON'T THINK IT'S SPECIAL,
BUT IF THEY BECAME AN EXPERT IN THAT AREA,
THEY COULD CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES IN POWERFUL WAYS.
REBECCA: HOW DO PEOPLE FIND THEIR GENIUS THAT GOD GAVE THEM?
DALE: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU START LOOKING,
WHERE DO I BEAR FRUIT?
NUMBER TWO, I HAVE IT IN
MY DAVID BOOK, ASK PEOPLE THAT KNOW YOU,
WHEN YOU THINK OF ME,
WHAT STORY DO YOU THINK OF? THEY WILL TELL YOU WHERE THEY --
YOU'VE AFFECTED THEM. AND NORMALLY, IT WILL BE A CLUE.
YOU ALSO TALKED TO GOD AND SAY, GOD,
WHAT IS MY GENIUS?
NOW, IN IT, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE GO THROUGH
ABOUT FIVE MAJOR IDENTITY SHIFTS IN THEIR LIFE.
DAVID THE SHEPHERD, DAVID THE MUSICIAN, DAVID THE WARRIOR,
DAVID THE CAPTAIN, DAVID THE KING.
DAVID COULD HAVE STOPPED AT CUTTING ALBUMS.
SOME PEOPLE, THAT'S THEIR ANOINTING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, UH, AND SEE WHEN YOUR ANOINTING
TOUCHES SOMEBODY ELSE'S ANOINTING, THEN THINGS HAPPEN.
I KNOW I'M CALLED AS A FATHER AND A PROPHET.
SO I WAS WITH DANNY GOKEY.
I LOOKED AT HIM AND I SAID, DANNY,
I SEE YOU WRITING A PROPHETIC SONG OR A SONG
ABOUT THIS NATION.
I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS DOING A REMAKE OF LEE GREENWOOD,
AND HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
BUT HE TOLD ME LATER,
GOT ON THE PLANE, AND HE STARTED WRITING THE SONG "MY AMERICA".
OKAY.
HE SAID, I --
THIS IS THE FIRST SONG I READ.
I WROTE EVERY WORD BY MYSELF.
IT JUST FLOWED OUT OF ME.
REBECCA: WOW.
DALE: OKAY.
SO THIS IS A DEAL.
I'M MOVING OUT OF MY GENIUS,
I'M PROPHESYING. HIS MOVING OUT OF HIS GENIUS,
HE'S WRITING IT. AND SO IN IT,
WHAT GOD WANTS TO DO IS CREATE A TEAM EFFECT
WHERE WHAT WE DO,
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL,
WE JUST DO OUR PART.
I DIDN'T GO WITH DANNY SAYING,
I THINK I SHOULD HELP YOU WRITE THIS SONG.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: YOU KNOW.
SO NOW WHERE YOUR ANOINTING STARTS AND STOPS.
BUT THE THING IS INFLUENCE.
YOUR DESTINY INFLUENCES OTHER PEOPLE OF DESTINY,
AND IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP, OTHER PEOPLE MAY NOT MAKE IT.
IF YOU DON'T SAY WHAT YOU SHOULD SAY, THINGS MAY NOT CHANGE.
AND ACTUALLY, I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
GO DOWN THIS ROAD.
IT TOOK A HAMAN TO PUSH ESTHER INTO HER GREATNESS.
REBECCA: UNPACK THAT MORE.
DALE: THE THING YOU HATE
WILL MAKE YOU BECOME THE THING GOD LOVES.
YOU'LL NEVER -- THE THINGS THAT ARE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE
ARE OFTEN THE THINGS THAT FORGE OUR STRENGTH.
IF I WILL KEEP MY EYES ON HIM AND MY HEART BEFORE HIM,
I DON'T TRY TO MICROMANAGE A SITUATION,
BUT I ACTUALLY RELEASE IT.
THINK ABOUT DAVID WHEN HE IS STRUMMING THE HARP
AND SAW MANIFEST DEMONICALLY
AND TRIES TO PIN HIM TO THE WALL.
YOU THINK YOU'VE HAD PROBLEMS IN CHURCH.
I MEAN, CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW NERVOUS YOU'D BE IS, MY GOD,
THIS GUY. SO THE NEXT SET OF WORSHIP,
YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE PLAYING THE SONG, YOU'RE WATCHING,
HE DOES IT AGAIN.
NOW, LISTEN, DAVID HAD ALREADY KILLED GOLIATH.
HE COULD HAVE PULLED IT OUT AND SAID, LISTEN,
I'M THE NEXT KING,
YOU ARE SO YESTERDAY, AND KILLED HIM RIGHT THEN,
AND NOBODY WOULD HAVE BLAMED HIM BECAUSE WHAT KING SAUL DID.
BUT IF HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT,
HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A SAUL, NOT A DAVID.
WHO YOU REFUSE TO HURT MAKES YOU MORE A DAVID
THAN WHO YOU ATTACKED.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
DALE: BECAUSE WHEN YOU START TO ATTACK PEOPLE, YOU LINE UP
WITH THE ACCUSER. WHEN YOU CAN SOW HONOR,
WHEN PEOPLE DISHONOR YOU,
WITH THE ACCUSER. WHEN YOU CAN SOW HONOR,
IT'S A PIVOTAL POINT OF A CHANGE IN YOUR DESTINY
BECAUSE GOD SAID, I KNOW YOU'RE FREE OF THEIR OPINION,
WHICH MAKES YOU FREE IN FRONT OF ME
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE LIVING OUT OF ME TO HANDLE
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TO DO WHAT YOU DO.
AND GOD SAID, NOW THAT YOU'RE ALL MINE,
I GIVE YOU EVERYTHING I HAVE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: ISN'T THAT GREAT?
I HATE THE JOURNEY, BUT I LOVE THE END.
REBECCA: YEAH, IT'S NOT AN EASY JOURNEY. DAVID'S LIFE,
I'VE LOVED DAVID, I'VE ALWAYS RELATED TO HIM IN THE BIBLE,
AND HIS LIFE HAS BEEN SUCH A INSPIRATION TO ME.
AND SO WHEN YOU WROTE THIS BOOK,
I WAS, EVERYONE WANTS TO BE LIKE DAVID IN THE SENSE
THAT EVERY PERSON WANTS TO BE A MAN AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART
AND TO PASS THE TRIALS AND TO PERSEVERE
AND TO WALK INTO THEIR DESTINY,
YOU KNOW, BUT HE WAS TESTED, AND THAT STORY,
THERE'S TWO STORIES IN THE BIBLE THAT ABOUT DAVID'S LIFE
THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IN THIS SEASON,
WHICH IS ONE, WAS HIS NAME NABAL?
DALE: YEP, NABAL.
REBECCA: ONE WAS NABAL BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE -- HE WAS GOING
TO GO AND KILL HIM BECAUSE NABAL HAD DONE WRONG BY HIM,
AND ABIGAIL STOPS DAVID
AND SAYS, BASICALLY GOD USES ABIGAIL TO SAY,
DON'T KILL HIM.
AND SO DAVID SAYS, YOU JUST PREVENTED ME
FROM MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE
BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE MURDERED HIM AND HIS MEN,
AND HE DOESN'T DO IT. AND NABAL THE NEXT DAY DIES.
DALE: YES.
REBECCA: GOD TAKES CARE OF NABAL BECAUSE NABAL HAD DONE WRONG
TO DAVID, SO DAVID WANTED TO REPAY THAT BACK.
BUT GOD SUPERNATURALLY USES ABIGAIL TO BASICALLY SPEAK
TO DAVID, SO THERE'S THAT STORY. AND THEN THE OTHER STORY
WAS WHEN SAUL WAS ASLEEP IN THE CAVE --
DALE: LET'S GO BACK TO NABAL JUST FOR A MINUTE.
OKAY.
SO WHAT DAVID HAD DONE,
HE HAD PROTECTED ALL OF NABAL'S SHEEP, AND THEY SAID,
COULD I HAVE JUST A LITTLE COUPLE SHEEP FOR MY MAN?
REBECCA: SUCH A SMALL ASK.
DALE: BUT WHAT HE SAID, HE -- WE KNOW THERE'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE
LEAVING THEIR KINGS, IN OTHER WORDS,
HE ACCUSED HIM OF BEING REBELLIOUS,
AND THAT SET DAVID OFF, AND HE SAID,
MAN, I'M GOING TO KILL THIS GUY.
I'M, SEE, IN OTHER WORDS,
DAVID HAD GOT TO THE POINT WHERE HE'S ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING
HE SHOULDN'T. YOU ALWAYS NEED AN ABIGAIL IN YOUR LIFE
TO SAY, YOU KNOW YOU'RE ABOUT TO RUN HIM OVER
WITH YOUR CAR AND YOUR MOUTH, AND DON'T DO THAT.
AND THEN WHAT ABIGAIL DID, SHE ENCOURAGED HIM AND SAID,
LISTEN, WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE NEXT KING OF ISRAEL.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
DALE: AND SHE REMINDED HIM OF THE PROMISE.
SOMETIMES YOU NEED PEOPLE TO REMIND YOU OF THE PROMISE
TO KEEP YOU FROM DOING CRAZY.
REBECCA: I CAN SAY A HUGE AMEN TO THAT
BECAUSE I HAVE SOME OF THOSE IN MY LIFE.
DALE: YOU KNOW,
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT, I JUST -- I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS
ANYMORE AND I CAN'T, IT'S SORT OF LIKE, ANYWAY,
I WON'T GET INTO IT, BUT SO YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO SOMETHING
THAT, REALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE
A LOT OF CLEANUP AFTER IT.
YOU KNOW, YOU ALMOST CAN FEEL THIS, UH,
WHAT WAS THAT GUY?
NOT DIRTY HARRY.
CLINT EASTWOOD.
THE LORD JUST,
TURN YOUR HEAD,
I'M GOING TO TAKE HIM OUT AND SAY THE DEVIL DID IT.
OKAY.
SO, ANYWAY.
SO WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIGHT
THE BATTLES OF THE BODY.
WE CAN ONLY FIGHT THE BATTLES OF GOD.
YOU CANNOT TAKE ON THE FAMILY OF GOD IN BATTLES.
YOU TAKE ON THE BATTLES OF GOD.
REBECCA: IS THAT WHY THAT VERSE SAYS WE DON'T WAR
AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT PRINCIPALITIES AND DARKNESS.
DALE: PRINCIPALITIES. DO YOU KNOW WHY
WE WANT TO FIGHT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD?
BECAUSE PRINCIPALITIES COME THROUGH PEOPLE.
REBECCA: AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH.
DALE: AND SO WE WANT TO FIGHT THE PEOPLE, AND GOD SAID, NO,
YOU FIGHT THE PRINCIPALITY. THINK ABOUT JESUS.
YOU KNOW,
HERE HE IS, HE HAS 12
HE'S RAISED UP.
HE CHANGED THE ACTIVITY OF 12 MEN.
HE ONLY CHANGED THE IDENTITY OF 11.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: WHEN HE SAID, ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO BETRAY ME,
THEY LOOKED MAYBE AT PETER, YOU KNOW.
HE CURSED.
YOU KNOW, YOU SAID TO HIM,
WE HEARD IT WHEN YOU SAID, GET BEHIND ME SATAN,
AND HE'S ALWAYS THE ONE BRAGGING AND STEPPING OUT OF THE BOAT
AND SINKING.
YOU KNOW, WE KNOW HIM AND, OR MAYBE IT'S THOMAS,
WHO SAID, LET US GO DIE WITH THEM.
IT'S LIKE HE, THOMAS, IS OUT TO LUNCH, YOU KNOW, BUT NO.
SO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT TELLS ME?
JUDAS WAS CASTING OUT DEMONS.
HE WAS IN THE PART OF DELIVERANCE.
THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT JUDAS AND SAY, WELL, NOW WE KNOW
WHY NONE OF YOUR PRAYERS EVER WORKED, HIS PRAYERS WORKED.
REMEMBER WHAT JESUS SAID?
WE PROPHESIED IN YOUR NAME,
WE CAST OUT DEMONS.
HE SAID, I NEVER KNEW YOU. ALL THOSE THINGS CAN GET YOU
ON ANY CHRISTIAN TV STATION,
BUT THEY WILL NOT GET YOU IN HEAVEN.
YOU DON'T KNOW HIM. AND PAUL SAID AT THE END OF HIS LIFE,
HE SAID, THAT I MAY KNOW HIM.
WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS, I KNOW HIM,
BUT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HIM.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE KNOWN.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: BUT IF YOU KNOW HIM, HE'LL MAKE YOU KNOWN.
HE WILL INTRODUCE YOU, FIRST OF ALL, TO WHO YOU ARE
AND WHO HE WANTS YOU TO BE.
SO DAVID WAS AT A POINT OF FRUSTRATION.
POINTS OF FRUSTRATION,
WHAT I'VE FOUND IS DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE,
YOU HAVE LESS TO REPENT FOR.
FRUSTRATION, I HAD GOD TELL ME SOMETHING.
I DIDN'T REALLY,
I WANTED A SECOND OPINION.
HE SAID TO ME, DALE,
HE SAID, YOU KNOW, EVERY PLACE YOU'VE BEEN HURT
IS WHERE YOUR FLESH IS STUCK OUTSIDE YOUR ARMOR.
REBECCA: OH.
DALE: I KNOW.
I DIDN'T LIKE IT, EITHER.
IT WAS LIKE, THAT'S COLD.
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?
SHUT UP.
I'M JUST GETTING RID OF THE FAT.
BURNING IT AS AN OFFERING. EVERYPLACE YOU'VE BEEN HURT
IS WHERE YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WITHOUT ME,
AND SEE, WITH AN ORPHAN SPIRIT,
WE OFTEN, IF YOU DON'T GET IT DIRECTLY FROM GOD,
YOU'LL HAVE TO GET IT FROM PEOPLE,
AND GOD CAN'T LET IT WORK.
REBECCA: MM-MM. OR IT'LL BE A DISASTER LATER.
DALE: YEAH, AND YOU CAN'T FULFILL YOUR DESTINY
IF YOU'RE HOOKED TO PEOPLE AND NOT HIM.
SAUL WAS HOOKED TO THE PEOPLE.
SAUL WAS THE KING PEOPLE WANTED WHEN HE DISOBEYED,
HE SAID THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE IF THE PEOPLE WANTED HIM,
HE SERVED THE PEOPLE, HE DIDN'T SERVE GOD.
SAUL NEVER SOUGHT THE PRESENCE OF GOD EXCEPT FOR A VICTORY
IN BATTLE.
HE NEVER SOUGHT THE PRESENCE OF GOD SIMPLY FOR HIS PRESENCE.
SO A LOT OF PRAYERS IN CHURCH ARE KING SAUL PRAYERS.
O LORD,
GIVE US A VICTORY,
O LORD, IN OUR LIVES.
O LORD, HELP ME WITH THIS, HELP ME WITH THAT,
INSTEAD OF, LORD,
I JUST WANT TO SIT WITH YOU.
I WANT YOUR PRESENCE IN MY LIFE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE IN MY LIFE,
I'LL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. AND WHAT I FIND THAT THE FREER
I AM, THE MORE HE CAN DO THROUGH ME.
REBECCA: AND THOSE TRIALS HELP SEVER
THAT CONNECTION TO WANTING SOMETHING FROM PEOPLE.
DALE: YEAH.
REBECCA: IT'S JUST KIND OF PAINFUL.
DALE: YEAH.
SO.
BUT IT'S A KIND,
IT'S A KIND THAT PRODUCES SOMETHING;
A PARTNERSHIP WITH HEAVEN
THAT IS SO AWESOME.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS.
NOT MANY PEOPLE GO THAT FAR.
IF IT WAS EASY,
EVERYBODY WOULD DO IT.
HE NEVER SAID IT WOULD BE EASY.
HE SAID IT WOULD BE WORTH IT.
REBECCA: YES.
DALE: IF YOU WANT THE EASY WALK,
THERE'S A LONG LINE. IF YOU WANT TO WORTH IT, WALK LIKE DAVID.
GET IN THE LINE. AND I BELIEVE THIS.
THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID IS BEING RESTORED IN THIS GENERATION.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE TEENAGERS, 30 YEARS OLD,
40, THEY'RE GOING TO SELL OUT TO GOD LIKE DAVID DID,
A GENERATION THAT WILL JUST DO WHAT HE WANTS. YOU KNOW,
I WAS IN AN AIRPORT,
JUST TO GIVE YOU THIS STORY,
AND I HEARD THE LORD SAY, I WANT YOU TO MINISTER A PROPHETIC WORD
TO THIS WOMAN. AND ACTUALLY THERE WAS
JUNK IN MY SPIRIT.
I HAD TO REPENT. AND I'M GOING OVER,
I SAID, YOU KNOW, AND I MINISTERED WHERE I DIDN'T
FEEL ANY ANOINTING, AND I JUST DID IT.
SHE STARTS CRYING AND THANKED ME, AND I DON'T REMEMBER
WHAT I SAID, AND I WALKED AWAY AND I SAID, GOD,
YOU SAW WHAT WAS IN ME,
WHY WOULD YOU ASK ME?
HE SAID, DALE,
I KNEW IF I ASKED YOU, YOU'D DO IT FOR ME.
I WAS FEELING SO GOOD.
AND THEN HE TOLD ME, HE SAID, WELL, AND YOU WERE
THE BEST THING I HAD WITHIN 50 FEET.
AND SO SOMETIMES, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE SO WONDERFUL.
WE'RE JUST THE BEST THING AVAILABLE. BUT, SEE,
THIS IS A PART, EVEN WHEN I DID NOT FEEL THE ANOINTING,
I KNEW THAT I HAD TO DO IT.
I'LL TELL YOU A DIFFERENT STORY.
IT'S NOT ONE
I LIKE TELLING.
IT'S NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN.
I WAS IN AN AIRPLANE, MY WIFE AND I,
IT WAS LIKE 11 O'CLOCK
I HAD PREACHED,
I HAD MINISTERED OVER.
I WAS SO TIRED.
I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR MY VOICE.
YOU EVER BEEN THERE? AND THIS WAS BACK IN,
30 YEARS AGO
WHERE PEOPLE SAT IN THE SEATS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
AND I'M SITTING THERE,
AND THIS GUY IS WALKING TOWARD ME AND I LOOK AT HIM,
AND I JUST, THIS GUY IS GAY.
AND THE LORD SAID -- AND HE WALKS AND I SAID,
HE IS NOT SITTING IN MY ROW.
THIS PLANE HAS 400 SEATS.
THERE'S 12 PEOPLE IN IT.
HE'S SITTING IN MY ROW.
HE'S GOING PAST ME, AND I SAID -- AND I HEARD
GOD SAY TO ME, TELL HIM THAT I LOVE HIM,
BUT I DON'T LOVE WHAT HE DOES.
AND I SAID, GOD.
JUST LEAVE ME ALONE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: LEAVE ME ALONE.
I LITERALLY FELT THE HOLY SPIRIT LIFT OFF OF ME FOR TWO WEEKS.
IT DID NOT COME BACK FOR TWO WEEKS.
I CRIED.
I SAID, BRING IT BACK.
GO FORWARD TO ANOTHER AIRPLANE STORY.
I'M COMING FROM A PROPHETIC CONFERENCE.
THERE'S A GUY,
HE LOOKS LIKE FABIO; LONG HAIR, HANDSOME, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
ON THE FRONT OF A MAGAZINE.
I LOOKED AT HIM AND GOD SAID, I WANT YOU TO TELL HIM
HE'S GOING TO BE AN END TIME EVANGELIST.
I'M GOING TO USE HIM.
I SAID, I'LL DO THAT. AND HE SAID, AND TELL HIM
HIS GIRLFRIEND ISN'T PREGNANT.
I SAID, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE IN GETTING HIT BY PEOPLE
I DON'T KNOW. SO I MEAN, GOD, JUST BOOM BOOM.
IT'S A HEART ATTACK WHERE BOOM, BOOM.
OKAY, MAN, I MEAN, SEE, I I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE OTHER.
I DIDN'T TELL GOD LEAVE ME ALONE.
I'M JUST SORT OF ARGUING NOW.
I KNOW NOBODY ELSE HAS EVER DONE THAT.
REBECCA: NO, WE ALL DO IT.
I WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST ABOUT STUFF LIKE THIS
BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE CAN LEARN.
DALE: SO WHAT HAPPENS IS...
REBECCA: THAT'S A HUGE WORD TO GIVE SOMEONE,
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR ELECTIVES.
DALE: HE GETS OFF THE PLANE.
AND I'M THE LAST ONE OUT BECAUSE I KNOW.
AND I'M LOOKING DOWN THE CARPET.
I SAID, GOD, IF YOU WANT ME TO GIVE HIM THAT WORD,
LET ME SEE HIM AGAIN.
I PULL MY EYES OUT OF THE CARPET.
HE IS STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, 20 FEET AWAY
TALKING TO A FRIEND.
I SAID, GOD, YOU WERE LISTENING.
I WALKED UP TO HIM.
I JUST STARTED LAUGHING.
I SAID, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS.
I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THIS.
I SAID,
I GUESS GOD IS TRYING TO PUT HAIR ON MY CHEST AS A PROPHET.
I SAID, YOU KNOW,
I SAID,
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
HE SAID, CHUCK.
I SAID, CHUCK,
I SEE YOU STANDING AS AN END TIME EVANGELIST.
GOD IS GOING TO USE YOU. PEOPLE IN HEAVEN BECAUSE OF YOU.
HE SAID, THAT'S GOOD. AND I SAID, AND THE SECOND WORD
IS, YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND.
HE SAID, YEAH.
I SAID, THE LORD TOLD ME TO TELL YOU SHE'S NOT PREGNANT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID? HE PUT OUT HIS HAND AND THANKED ME,
AND SHOOK MY HAND.
I AM SORT OF BETWEEN SINKING INTO THE CARPET
AND DYING IN FRONT OF HIM.
I DON'T THINK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
ALL I DID WAS DELIVER THE WORD AND I THOUGHT, MY GOD,
BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO DO
WHAT HE ASKED ME THIS TIME.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: THIS WAS NOT,
I DIDN'T CARE IF HE HIT ME.
THIS WAS BETWEEN ME AND GOD. WHEN I SAID TO GOD,
IF I SEE HIM,
I'LL DO IT,
THERE WAS NO GOING BACK.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? HIS ANOINTING HAS RESTED ON ME
IN WAYS BEYOND MY UNDERSTANDING.
I COULD TELL YOU STORY AFTER STORY,
BUT I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN YOU FEEL THE HOLY SPIRIT,
YOU KNOW WHAT SURPRISED ME? WHEN IT LEFT ME,
I DIDN'T REALIZE THE LEVEL OF ANOINTING I WALKED IN EVERY DAY
THAT I DID. I JUST ASSUMED
I COULD FEEL IT LEAVE.
I MEAN, IT WAS HORRIBLE
AND IT WAS SHOCKING.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE LEVEL THAT I WAS CARRYING.
SOME OF YOU
DON'T KNOW YOU'RE CARRYING. YOU'VE GOTTEN SO USED TO IT.
YOU THINK YOU'RE LIGHTLY ANOINTED.
YOU'RE HEAVILY ANOINTED.
JUST SAYING.
REBECCA: AND YOU LEARNED FROM THAT EXPERIENCE...
DALE: OH, YEAH.
REBECCA: IT WAS NOT WORTH LOSING HIM.
IT WAS BETTER TO BE OBEDIENT.
NO MATTER HOW UNCOMFORTABLE OR HOW TIRED
OR HOW HARD OF A SITUATION IT WAS.
DALE: YEAH.
SO MY WIFE, SHE'LL DO THIS TO ME.
I'LL BE OUT MOWING GRASS.
I'M TELLING YOU, THIS HAPPENS HUNDREDS OF TIMES.
I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.
MAYBE TWO HUNDRED, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MARRIED SEVEN.
I'M SURE IT'S OVER TWO HUNDRED.
I'LL BE OUT WORKING DOING SOMETHING.
SHE SAID, DALE,
I JUST LED SOMEBODY THROUGH DELIVERANCE
AND I TOLD THEM YOU'RE GOING TO PROPHESY OVER THEM.
AND SHE HANDS ME THE PHONE AND I'M LIKE...
REBECCA: THE SPOUSAL SETUP.
DALE: THIS WOMAN YOU GAVE ME,
GOD, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
LIKE ADAM.
OKAY. SO AND I AM ANNOYED, AND I'LL TAKE THE PHONE
AND I'M LIKE, I'M GETTING READY TO TELL HER
I'LL DO IT LATER, AND GOD SAID, NO, LEAN INTO YOUR IDENTITY.
YOU'RE A PROPHET. YOU CARRY IT.
I'LL START SAYING THREE TO FOUR WORDS,
THE ANOINTING WILL COME ON ME.
I'LL PROPHESY TO THEM,
WHAT SHE WALKED THEM THROUGH, AGES WHERE THEY'RE STUCK.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE JUST BEYOND
BECAUSE I WAS MADE FOR THIS. NOW, SEE,
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M A PROPHET, I CAN STAND AND MOVE
IN THE ANOINTING AT WILL. IF YOU HAVE THE GIFT OF PROPHECY,
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO MOVE IT.
AS A BELIEVER,
YOU CAN ALLOW IT TO COME OVER YOU.
BUT MY JOB AS A PROPHET,
IF I STEP FORWARD IN WHAT GOD MADE ME FOR,
I CAN PROPHESY.
I DID THIS ONE TIME TO FIND OUT,
I WAS AT A,
WHAT'S A BIG RESTAURANT, DENNY'S, WHERE THE BIG U...
AND SEE, YOU KNOW,
I WOULDN'T TRY THIS IN CHURCH BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SO KIND,
THEY'LL JUST TELL YOU,
OH, THAT WAS REALLY GOD.
SO I WENT OVER TO THIS TABLE, AND ALL THESE PEOPLE,
THEY WERE DONE EATING.
I SAID, LISTEN,
I LEFT MY SON.
I SAID, I WANT TO GO OVER THERE BECAUSE I'M GETTING A WORD.
I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT IF THE GIFT WORKS. SO I WENT OVER THERE
AND I SAID, I'M I'M A PASTOR, COULD I JUST
GIVE YOU A PROPHETIC WORD?
THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE DONE.
I SAID, OKAY.
NOW I'LL FIND A TRUTH.
REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE...
YEAH.
DALE: THEY DON'T WANT -- THEY'RE THERE.
SO I SAID,
WELL, THIS IS WHAT I SEE WITH YOU.
THEY WERE ALL,
THERE WAS LIKE TEN OF THEM.
I START GOING FROM ONE TO THE OTHER TO THE OTHER.
THEY START ELBOWING STUFF.
I'M, I MEAN, GOD'S GIVING ME WORDS OF KNOWLEDGE.
I'M JUST MOVING IN THE SPIRIT.
I GET TO THE LAST ONE.
NOBODY MOVES. I MINISTERED TO THOSE 12 PEOPLE
IN LESS THAN TEN MINUTES JUST WORDS, BUT THEY WERE GOING,
WOW. WOW.
I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE GOING,
WOW, WOW.
I MEAN, GOD SAID THE GIFT WORKS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO WORK IT.
BUT THEN I LEARNED
I WASN'T JUST A PASTOR WHO HAD A GIFT OF PROPHECY.
I WAS A PROPHET WHO PASTORED. THAT CHANGED MY ASSIGNMENTS.
AND NOW I REALIZE I'M AN AUTHOR, BECAUSE GOD WRITES THROUGH ME.
THE ANOINTING WILL FALL ON ME FROM 15 MINUTES TO FOUR HOURS.
HE'LL SPEAK TO ME, HE'LL TAKE SCRIPTURES I KNOW
AND SHOW ME THINGS I DON'T KNOW.
HE WILL -- I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THIS: TO ANYONE LISTENING,
IF YOU WILL GET PARTS OF THE BIBLE
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND AND SAY, GOD, REVEAL YOURSELF TO ME.
HE'LL SHOW YOU THE MYSTERIES OF HEAVEN.
THAT IS ONE OF THE ATTRIBUTES OF DAVID.
REBECCA: HE HAD THAT ABILITY?
DALE: HE SAT BEFORE GOD,
HE SAID,
HOW DID YOU BRING ME THIS FAR? AND GOD SAID, DAVID,
YOU WANTED TO BUILD ME A HOUSE.
SOLOMON'S GOING TO BUILD IT, BUT I'M GOING TO BUILD YOU
A HOUSE THAT WILL NEVER END. AND GOD TOOK DAVID'S LIFE
AND BUILT IT ALL THE WAY TO THE MESSIAH.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT STORY, BECAUSE DAVID WANTED ONE THING,
AND GOD SAID, I HAVE SOMETHING SO MUCH BIGGER.
DALE: YEAH. BUT WHAT DAVID WANTED TO DO FOR GOD,
GOD DID FOR DAVID.
REBECCA: WHICH JUST SHOWS HOW AMAZING GOD IS.
DALE: SO IT TELLS YOU HOW INTERACTIVE GOD IS.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
REBECCA: I KNOW. HE'S SO MUCH BETTER
THAN WE CAN EVEN COMPREHEND.
YEAH, HE'S JUST COMPLETELY WORTH SERVING.
DALE: YEAH.
REBECCA: OKAY.
OH, NO.
GO AHEAD. WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING?
DALE: OH, NO, THAT'S ON MY SECOND DAVID BOOK.
I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT NOW.
REBECCA: YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME BACK.
WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER DAVID BOOK, OKAY?
DALE: I'M WRITING ON IT RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS STORY GOES IN, SO I WANT TO KEEP WITH THIS STORY BOOK.
REBECCA: SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- SO WE TALKED ABOUT NABAL.
IT'S TALKING ABOUT SAUL IN THE CAVE.
BECAUSE HERE DAVID WAS ANOINTED BY SAMUEL, SAUL,
HE HAD TO FLEE THE HOUSE OF SAUL.
DALE: HIDING AMONG THE PHILISTINES, YEAH.
REBECCA: HIDING AMONG THE PHILISTINES,
OF ALL PEOPLE.
DALE: AND HE DEFEATED THEIR CHAMPION.
REBECCA: YES.
AND HE HAS THIS PRIMO OPPORTUNITY
TO JUST TAKE SAUL OUT.
AND HE COULD HAVE DONE IT
DALE: AND NOT TO LUNCH, EITHER. TAKE HIM OUT.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: AND SO HE GOES IN THERE,
AND INSTEAD OF KILLING HIM,
HE CUTS HIS ROBE.
AND THAT GREATLY MINISTERED TO ME
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TIMES I CAN RELATE TO THE ABILITY
TO BE ABLE TO REALLY HURT SOMEONE, BUT CHOOSING NOT TO.
DALE: NO, YOU'RE SO SWEET.
YOU WOULD NEVER THINK OF THAT.
NO, NO.
SO, OKAY.
SO, REBECCA, THIS IS THE DEAL.
IT SAYS THAT WHEN DAVID CUT THE CORNER OF SAUL'S ROBE,
HIS MEN WANTED TO KILL KING SAUL.
BECAUSE IF YOU CUT THE CORNER OF SOMEBODY'S ANOINTING,
THOSE THAT FOLLOW YOU,
IT RELEASES A SPIRIT OF MURDER IN THEM.
THEY WANT A -- IT'S AS A WRONG SPIRIT.
WHAT DAVID REALIZED, HE WAS CUTTING THE CORNER OF THE ROBE
THAT WAS IN HIS FUTURE.
REBECCA: OH, MAN.
IS THAT WHY HE FELT BAD ABOUT DOING IT?
DALE: THAT'S WHY HE REPENTED,
BECAUSE OTHERWISE HE COULD NOT HAVE
STOPPED HIS MEN FROM KILLING SAUL RIGHT THEN.
HE REPENTED FOR DOING IT.
I WILL TELL YOU THIS: IF YOU'RE CALLED TO A CERTAIN MINISTRY,
THE DEVIL WILL SET YOU UP TO CUT SOMEBODY ELSE'S ROBE,
TO ACTUALLY FRACTURE THE ANOINTING
YOU WEAR IN THE FUTURE.
AND BECAUSE DAVID REPENTED,
NONE OF HIS MEN EVER TRIED TO KILL HIM.
REBECCA: WOW.
DALE: THEY TALKED ABOUT IT AT ZIKLAG.
AND THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TEST.
REBECCA: CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE ZIKLAG TEST?
DALE: OH, YEAH.
REBECCA: BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT.
DALE: IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
SO GOD TOOK DAVID TO THE PLACE.
HE GOES OUT TO BATTLE.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE KING HE IS HIDING WITH IS FIGHTING
AGAINST SAUL AND ISRAEL.
THE OTHER KINGS SAY,
LISTEN, WHAT IF DAVID DECIDES TO TURN AGAINST US?
I MEAN, HE KILLED GOLIATH, AND THE GUY THAT WAS WITH THEM,
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE KING'S NAME RIGHT NOW,
HE SAID,
OH, NO,
HE'S FAITHFUL TO ME.
WELL, HE WASN'T.
BUT SO HE SENT DAVID BACK.
SO WHILE DAVID WAS AWAY,
ANOTHER GROUP OF WARRIORS CAME AND TOOK EVERYTHING
AND BURNT THE PLACE DOWN.
SO DAVID NOT ONLY LOST HIS FAMILY,
ALL THE WARRIORS LOST THEIR FAMILY, AND IN THOSE DAYS
IN A BATTLE,
YOU TOOK ENOUGH FOOD TO THE BATTLE TO WIN
BECAUSE EITHER YOU WERE DEAD OR YOU WERE EATING THEIR FOOD.
YOU DID NOT CARRY AROUND BIG COOLERS OF FOOD.
YOU HAD TO -- YOUR NEXT MEAL WAS BASED ON THE FACT
YOU'RE GOING TO WIN.
SO TO GO ALL THAT DISTANCE AND ALL THE WAY BACK,
THEY WERE TIRED, DUSTY.
THEY HAVE BEEN DENIED A VICTORY OR A VICTORY.
SOME OF THEM WANTED REVENGE. NOW, SEE, DAVID KNEW
HE COULDN'T FIGHT AGAINST KING SAUL,
BUT HE COULDN'T REFUSE TO GO WITH THE ENEMY.
HE WAS -- SO GOD MADE THE ENEMY TURN DAVID BACK AND DELIVER HIM
BECAUSE DAVID COULDN'T NEVER FOUGHT AGAINST ISRAEL.
BUT WHEN HE GETS BACK, GOD, FOR TWO REASONS,
FIRST OF ALL, HE ALLOWS ZIKLAG TO BE BURNT DOWN.
THERE ARE SOME PLACES GOD WILL BURN DOWN
BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIVE THERE ANYMORE.
YOU NEED AN ADDRESS CHANGE. ALSO, THE TEXT WAS, DAVID,
IF YOUR MEN ARE TALKING ABOUT KILLING YOU,
AND THESE ARE MIGHTY MEN,
CAN YOU FIND YOURSELF IN ME,
OR IS YOUR STRENGTH STILL IN THE LEADERS, MIGHTY MEN
THAT YOU'VE RAISED UP? BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE
BETWEEN YOU AND ME IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THE DISTANCE.
I NEED A MOMENT. THAT NOBODY'S FOR YOU
AND IT'S YOU AND ME.
CAN YOU STRENGTHEN YOURSELF IN THE LORD?
AND DAVID DID.
AND WHAT WE SEE NEXT IS LITERALLY KING SAUL
REMOVED DAVID, GOES UP TO JUDAH,
AND HE IS NOT TO ISRAEL,
BUT FOR JUDAH, PARTIAL FULFILLMENT. HE IS ANOINTED
IN JUDAH, HIS OWN TRIBE, TO BE KING, AND CIVIL WAR STARTS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE DAVID
THINKING, FINALLY, I GET TO BE KING,
AND NOW, CIVIL WAR.
REBECCA: I KNOW.
DALE: WHEN DOES THIS THING END?
WHEN DOES THIS THING END? SO DAVID HAD TO WIN,
BUT HE HAD TO WIN GENTLY BECAUSE HE HAD TO
DEFEAT THE HOUSE OF SAUL, BUT HE HAD TO LEAD THEM
IN THE FUTURE.
REBECCA: EXACTLY. BRING THEM A UNITED ISRAEL.
DALE: BUT HE COULDN'T LET THEM WIN, BUT HE COULDN'T BE UGLY.
SOMETIMES WE NEED TO WIN GENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO
LEAD THE PEOPLE THAT OPPOSED. AND ABNER, SAUL'S GENERAL,
CAME OVER AND BROUGHT THEM TO DAVID
SEVEN-AND-A-HALF YEARS, LIKE SEVEN-AND-A-HALF YEARS LATER,
AND DAVID WAS KING OVER ALL ISRAEL.
SO DAVID IS NOW SITTING IN ISRAEL.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE VERSE COMES.
AND HE PERCEIVED HE WAS KING
BECAUSE EVERYTHING DAVID HAD WAS ALWAYS TAKEN FROM HIM.
EVERYTHING WAS A BATTLE.
IT SAYS THAT GOD ESTABLISHED HIM OVER A KING OVER ISRAEL,
NOT FOR HIS IDENTITY,
BUT FOR THE SAKE OF ISRAEL.
YOUR IDENTITY IS NEVER FOR YOUR SAKE.
IT'S FOR THOSE YOU WILL AFFECT.
BUT YOUR IDENTITY DESCRIBES WHAT YOU DO FOR THEM.
YOUR DESTINY IS TO HELP SOMEBODY ELSE MAKE IT.
JESUS DID NOT COME TO EARTH TO WIN OVER THE DEVIL.
HE ALREADY KICKED HIM OUT OF HEAVEN.
HE CAME SO YOU AND I COULD WIN. WHEN WE STEP INTO THE ROOM,
WE'RE NOT STEPPING IN TO WIN. WE SHOULD STEP IN TO
HELP OTHER PEOPLE WIN.
IF I'M STEPPING INTO THE ROOM TO WIN,
I'M STILL IN THE DALE GAME.
IF I'M STEPPING IN FOR THEM TO WIN,
I'M IN THE GOD GAME.
REBECCA: THIS IS THE THING. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS PROFOUND
BECAUSE THIS IS GOD'S KINGDOM, BECAUSE GOD'S KINGDOM
DOESN'T WORK LIKE HOW THE EARTHLY KINGDOM DOES.
BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KIND OF
KNOWING THIS AND ACTUALLY REALLY KNOWING THIS.
DALE: OR LIVING IT.
REBECCA: OR LIVING IT.
HOW DOES SOMEONE GET THERE?
DALE: YEAH.
WELL,
YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL PAIN TO YOUR FLESH
AND YOUR SPIRIT'S GOING TO COME ALIVE.
WINE IS MADE OUT OF CRUSHED GRAPES,
NOT PRESERVED.
REBECCA: IT'S PAINFUL, AND GOOD AT THE SAME TIME.
DALE: YEAH. BUT, SEE, THE THING IS, WHEN YOU'RE CRUSHED,
YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO INFLUENCE,
AND IT'S SOMETHING RARE, AND WE ALL GET TO DO IT IN LITTLE WAYS.
I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE WOMAN,
THE SERVANT GIRL, WHO WAS LITERALLY CAPTURED BY THE KING,
NAMAN, WHO HAD LEPROSY.
SHE NEVER LOST HER VOICE.
SHE SAID, I KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GET HEALED.
SHE WAS NOT RESENTFUL.
SHE WAS MORE OF THE KEY OF HIM GETTING HEALED
ELISHA, WHO WAVED --
WHO DID NOT WAVE HIS HAND,
SAID, GO DIP IN THE RIVER SEVEN TIMES.
BECAUSE SHE MAY HAVE BEEN A SERVANT GIRL,
BUT HER VOICE BOOMED TO THE MAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN NAMAN CAME BACK,
I'M SURE SHE WAS NOT A SERVANT GIRL ANYMORE.
I'M SURE IF HE WAS WILLING TO GIVE ALL THAT TO THE PROPHET
AND TO GAIN HIS SIGHT, THAT IT WOULD BEEN ELISHA,
THAT HE REWARDED HER
THAT SHE HAD A PRETTY NICE HOUSE
WHEN IT WAS ALL DONE, BUT SHE WASN'T LOOKING FOR THAT.
BUT SHE NEVER STOPPED BEING GOD'S SERVANT,
EVEN WHEN SHE WAS IN BONDAGE.
SO THE DEAL IS, CAN YOU STILL BE WHO YOU ARE
WHEN ALL THE CARDS ARE AGAINST YOU?
THAT WAS A SERVANT GIRL,
NOT EVEN A MAJOR PROPHET.
SO DON'T EVER COUNT YOURSELF OUT OF GOD'S KINGDOM.
FROM THE SMALLEST TO THE TALLEST,
GOD IS RELEASING A DAVIDIC ANOINTING.
WHENEVER WE GET READY TO TRANSITION INTO OUR NEXT LEVEL,
THERE'S ALWAYS A BLOCKING SPIRIT. WHEN DAVID WAS
GETTING READY TO FACE GOLIATH,
HE HAD HIS BROTHER JUDGING HIM FOR HAVING A WICKED HEART.
NOW, WHY?
THIS IS ELIAB, WHO'S A WARRIOR, WHO'S HEAD AND SHOULDERS
ABOVE DAVID, WHO'S ACTUALLY IN FEAR.
AND WHEN DAVID SAID HE'S ASKING ABOUT THE REWARD,
ISN'T IT INTERESTING?
HE WAS INTERESTED IN THE REWARD AS IF HE WAS GOING TO SURVIVE.
SO TO ASK ABOUT IT, MAN,
I THINK I COULD DO THIS. AND HIS BROTHER SAID,
I KNOW WHAT A WICKED HEART YOU HAVE.
ELIAB WAS JUDGING DAVID BASED ON THE WAY
HE THOUGHT. DAVID WAS DOING IT BECAUSE HE LOVED GOD.
ELIAB LOVED ATTENTION.
HE THOUGHT DAVID LOVED ATTENTION.
PEOPLE WILL ACCUSE YOU OF THEIR IDOL.
REBECCA: WOW.
DALE: SO WHEN PEOPLE JUDGE YOU FOR BEING PROUD,
IF I'M AN HONEST PERSON WHEN I MEET PEOPLE,
I THINK THEY'RE, HONEST. A CROOK,
WHEN HE MEETS PEOPLE,
HE THINKS THEY'RE CROOKED.
ISN'T THAT INTERESTING? SO WHEN PEOPLE START SAYING TO ME,
DALE,
ARE YOU CROOKED?
THEN I START WONDERING ABOUT THEM
BECAUSE I WASN'T WONDERING ABOUT THEM TILL THEY BROUGHT IT UP
TO ME.
THEY'RE TELLING ME SOMETHING ABOUT THEMSELVES.
SO IN IT,
NEVER TAKE IT PERSONAL. DAVID DID NOT ARGUE WITH HIS BROTHER.
HE SAID, WHAT DID I DO? AND HE JUST WENT ON.
IF HE WOULD HAVE ARGUED AND HAD A FALLOUT WITH HIS BROTHER,
HE WOULD HAVE LOST THE ANOINTING TO TAKE DOWN GOLIATH.
DON'T ARGUE AT YOUR POINT OF TRANSITION.
JUST KEEP ON MOVING LIKE DAVID.
HE WENT IN FRONT OF THE KING, AND KING SAUL SAID,
YOU KNOW, THIS GUY HAS BEEN A WARRIOR
SINCE HE'S BEEN A YOUNG GUY.
YOU'RE A YOUNG GUY AND YOU HAVEN'T FOUGHT ANYTHING.
AND DAVID SAID, I KNOW, BUT I HAVE KILLED A LION AND A BEAR.
NOW, SO DAVID WAS NOT SHOWING OFF.
HE WAS SHOWING UP.
AND WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS, LISTEN.
I HAVE FACED DOWN THE EXTRAORDINARY VICTORIES
WHEN NOBODY WAS WATCHING. WHAT YOU DO WHEN NOBODY'S WATCHING
WILL GIVE YOU AUTHORITY WHEN EVERYBODY'S WATCHING.
DAVID COULD HAVE SAID,
HEY, WHAT A SHEEP?
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE COMING?
I'D RATHER, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE TOOK THAT SHEEP
OUT OF THE LION'S MOUTH,
HE LOOKED LIKE LUNCH TO THE LION.
IT NEVER SAYS THAT
DAVID HIT HIM WITH A SLING.
IT SAYS HE ACTUALLY PULLED THE LAMB OUT OF THE LION'S MOUTH.
I WONDER IF IT WAS A SAMSON ANOINTING.
I DON'T KNOW.
HE MAY HAVE HIT HIM WITH A STONE.
I JUST -- I DON'T KNOW.
ALL I KNOW IS THEN HE STOOD IN FRONT OF THE KING,
AND THE KING SAID,
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO THIS. DAVID COULD HAVE SAID,
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW SAMMY, WHO ANOINTED YOU,
I'M TELLING YOU, HE CAME TO ME, AND YOU'RE HISTORY.
YOU JUST NEED TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.
I SEE FEAR ALL OVER YOU.
I AM THE NEXT KING,
AND THIS IS MINE.
THIS IS MY MOMENT.
DAVID NEVER PUT KING SAUL DOWN.
HE ALSO DID NOT WEAR KING SAUL'S ARMOR.
NOW, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND,
THERE'S MANY ASPECTS OF KING SAUL'S ARMOR THAT ARE TRUE,
BUT HE COULD NOT USE SOMEBODY ELSE'S IDENTITY
TO WIN HIS BATTLE. KING SAUL NEVER LOST A BATTLE
IN THAT ARMOR.
HE WAS TRYING TO GIVE HIM
WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS BEST. YOU HAVE TO REFUSE OTHER PEOPLE
GIVING YOU THEIR ARMOR TO WIN A BATTLE
THAT YOU CAN ONLY WIN WITH YOUR GIFT.
THE BIBLE SAYS, YOUR GIFT WILL MAKE ROOM FOR YOU. WHEN YOU TRY,
SEE, WHEN PEOPLE COME AND SAY,
WELL, I DID THIS AND I DID THAT AND I DID THE OTHER.
IF YOU DO THIS,
YOU DO THAT, YOU DO THE OTHER, YOU'LL WIN.
THAT'S THEIR ARMOR.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY I NEVER HAD A GREAT MINISTRY
THOUGH I FASTED 40 DAYS. NOW, THIS IS A QUESTION.
ARE YOU SAYING YOU EARNED IT BY FASTING 40 DAYS?
BECAUSE IF THAT'S WHAT,
I'LL EARN IT, TOO.
WHAT YOU'RE REALLY --
WHAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY TELLING YOU IS THIS:
IT TOOK 40 DAYS FOR ME TO GET MY FLESH OUT OF THE WAY
TO RECEIVE WHAT GOD CALLED ME TO DO.
YOU COULD DO IT IN THREE DAYS, THREE WEEKS,
MAYBE THROUGH THIS OR THAT OR THE OTHER.
NOBODY EARNED ANYTHING HERE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: WE ARE RECEIVING.
WE'RE NOT EARNING.
NOW, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
WOULD YOU RATHER BE THE SON OF A PRESIDENT
OR AN EMPLOYEE OF A PRESIDENT OF A MULTI-BILLION COMPANY?
REBECCA: I WOULD THINK THE SON.
DALE: DO YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT
THE VICE PRESIDENT EMPLOYEE WOULD GET?
WAGES YOU WOULD NEVER RECEIVE AS A SON.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT AS A SON YOU GET?
YOU GET AN INHERITANCE THE VICE PRESIDENT WILL NEVER TOUCH.
SO WHAT DO YOU WANT? WAGES OR AN INHERITANCE?
REBECCA: AN INHERITANCE.
DALE: YES.
THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER.
SONS GET AN INHERITANCE,
EMPLOYEES GET A PAYCHECK.
WE HAVE TOO MANY CHRISTIANS THAT WANT A PAYCHECK
AND THEY'RE MISSING THEIR INHERITANCE.
DAVID KNEW HOW TO BRING HEAVEN DOWN TO EARTH THROUGH HIS LIFE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF CHRISTIANS THAT'LL GO TO HEAVEN,
NOT AS MANY WILL BRING HEAVEN TO EARTH.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: SEE, THAT'S WHERE DAVID CAME IN.
AND SO HE STARTS TO LIVE
IN THAT REALM THAT GOD SO HAS HIS NAME HOOKED TO DAVID
THAT FOR DAVID TO LOSE HAS GOD TO LOSE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVED GOD FOR.
DO YOU KNOW
GOD GAVE ME A DREAM,
AND I WOKE UP FROM THE DREAM,
AND IN THIS DREAM, I DIED.
MY WIFE LOOKED AT ME, SAID,
DALE, YOU LOOK REALLY DIFFERENT.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
I SAID, I JUST HAD A DREAM THAT I DIED.
AND I NEVER DIE IN DREAMS.
I HAVE DREAMS.
AND IN THE DREAM, I WAS,
THERE WAS THESE MANTLES AND THEY HAD DUST,
LIKE MINING-LEAVEN DUST ON THEM,
AND I WAS GOING INTO AN ELEVATOR
TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL TO GET THE NEXT MANTLE
FOR MY NEXT SEASON.
I WAS SHIFTING FROM PASTOR TO BEING A FATHER TO FATHERS,
AND A PROPHET TO PROPHETS, AND TO DO WHAT I'M DOING NOW,
WRITE BOOKS.
AND IN IT, AS I STEPPED INTO WHAT LOOKED LIKE
THIS ELEVATOR,
IT WAS LIKE A CAVE.
THE PROBLEM WAS, ALL THE THREE MEN
THAT I KNEW WERE MEN OF GOD.
RIGHTEOUS.
BUT THEY ALL DIED.
AND WHEN IT CLOSED BEHIND ME,
THERE WAS AN ORANGE COLOR IN THE ROOM, AND I REALIZED
IT WAS A TOMB, AND I WAS DEAD.
AND I WOKE UP.
I TOLD MY WIFE, AND I FELT SOMETHING ALL OVER ME.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
SO BECAUSE I KNOW GOD LOVES ME, AND JUST BECAUSE
YOU HAVE A DREAM DOESN'T MEAN IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
HE CAN WARN YOU.
THE NEXT THREE SUNDAYS,
I WAS PREACHING IN DIFFERENT CHURCHES.
EVERY TIME I STEPPED IN THE ELEVATOR OF A HOTEL,
I FELT THIS THING COME OVER ME.
THE THIRD ONE,
I WAS IN VIRGINIA BEACH,
AND THEY ACTUALLY HAD ORANGE PADDING
BECAUSE THEY WERE PUTTING STUFF UP IN THE HOTEL,
IT WAS AROUND ME, AND I GOT IN IT, AND IT HIT ME
WORSE THAN IT EVER HIT ME.
I SAID, HONEY,
I SAID, IF I DON'T SEE A DOCTOR,
I THINK I'M GOING TO MEET JESUS BEFORE I NEED TO.
SO I GO TO BISHOP ANNE AND I TELL HER,
DO YOU HAVE A HEART DOCTOR?
SHE SAID, DALE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS.
I'M MEETING HIM TOMORROW.
HE'S A SPIRIT-FILLED CHRISTIAN.
HE HAS A PRACTICE.
HE BROKE OFF FROM THIS ELITE GROUP
AND HE'S MEETING ME.
BUT HE'LL MEET YOU. I'M SURE.
I SAID, WELL, I'M -- MY WIFE SAID, WE NEED TO GO HOME.
I SAID, HONEY, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE --
SO WE'RE GOING ACROSS THE BAINBRIDGE TUNNEL,
LEAVING VIRGINIA BEACH,
BISHOP ANNE CALLS ME AND SAYS, DALE,
HE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW AT NOON.
I TURN AROUND AFTER 24 MILES
ACROSS THE BAINBRIDGE TUNNEL.
COMING BACK,
GET A HOTEL ROOM.
I GO IN, I START TALKING TO HIM ABOUT THE DAVID BOOK.
HE JUST STOPPED FOR HALF AN HOUR,
JUST TALKING TO ME.
HE GOT SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.
AND PEOPLE SAID, WE GOT DOCTORS --
WE GOT PATIENTS.
HE SAID, DOESN'T MATTER.
I'M TALKING TO HIM.
SO HE SAID, DALE,
I WANT TO PUSH YOU RIGHT ON THROUGH,
TOOK ME OVER TO HIS PLACE,
DID THE BLOOD, AND THE WOMAN SAID, WE GOT ALL THESE.
HE SAID, PUT HIM IN.
PUT ME THROUGH, FOUND OUT RIGHT BELOW
THE WIDOW MAKER,
I WAS 95% BLOCKED.
I PASSED EVERY TEST.
BUT HE SAID, DALE, THE ONLY WAY I CAN KNOW
IS GO INSIDE.
BY WEDNESDAY, HE WENT IN, PUT IN A STENT.
HE SAID, DALE, IF YOU HAD NOT COME BACK,
YOUR STORY COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.
REBECCA: WOW.
DALE: I'M TELLING YOU,
GOD LOVES ME,
AND I KNOW IT.
AND MY PURPOSE IS NOT DONE.
HE WARNED ME.
HE SET IT UP.
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO SEE A HEART DOCTOR?
I SAW A HEART DOCTOR WITHIN 24 HOURS OF MY REQUEST.
UNTHINKABLE.
OKAY.
WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO PEOPLE, IF IT WAS NOT FOR
THE GRACE OF GOD,
YOU WOULD NOT BE ALIVE.
EVERYBODY THAT'S UNDER THE SOUND OF MY VOICE.
YOU COULD HAVE DIED THREE DIFFERENT WAYS.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DALE: YOU COULD BE GONE. BUT YOU'RE HERE
BECAUSE YOUR PURPOSE IS NOT OVER. GET TO IT.
IF YOU WILL LIVE A LIFE OF PURPOSE,
GOD WILL HAVE ANGELS PROTECT YOU.
YOU'LL HAVE DOCTORS WHEN YOU NEED IT.
BUT IF YOU'RE JUST DOING YOUR OWN THING,
HE JUST COULD TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN.
BUT IF YOU'RE HERE ON ASSIGNMENT,
ANGELS WATCH OVER YOU IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY.
NOW, SOME OF YOU, GOD'S KEPT ALIVE
TO GIVE YOU A SECOND CHANCE,
THIRD CHANCE, OR AS MANY CHANCES AS YOU NEED.
BUT LIKE DAVID, KEEP AFTER GOD'S HEART AND WATCH
HOW HE DELIVERS YOU.
OKAY.
UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU DON'T HAVE A GIFT,
BUT YOUR LIFE IS A GIFT,
YOU'LL NEVER LIVE IT CORRECTLY.
HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD WANT
WHAT JESUS HAS,
OR DO YOU REALLY WANT HIM?
BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE HIM,
YOU HAVE WHAT HE HAS.
AND UNTIL YOU REALIZE
YOUR LIFE IS A GIFT THAT YOU GIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE,
YOUR LOVE WILL NOT BE AS BOLD.
IT WILL NOT BE AS INFLUENTIAL.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE
AS A GIFT TO PEOPLE,
YOU'RE NOW STARTING TO LIVE LIKE JESUS.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.