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JOSEPH Z: IF YOU ARE LISTENING
TO<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST,</i>

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I WANT TO SAY TO YOU,
AND YOU FEEL A CALL

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TO THE PROPHETIC,


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WELL, GOD WANTS YOU TO BE
CLEAR-EYED, CLEAR-MINDED.

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YOU CAN GET RID OF THE
GOOFY AND YOU CAN START

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GETTING RESULTS, BUT
IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.

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IT'S ABOUT JESUS.


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REBECCA: AND YOU CAN,
YOU CAN KNOW THAT,

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BUT IT'S ANOTHER THING TO
ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN

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AND LIVE IT AND THAT
TAKES TIME AND TESTING.

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JOSEPH Z: IT DOES.


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GOD NEVER DOES THESE
THINGS TO KILL YOU.

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HE NEVER DOES THESE
THINGS TO DESTROY YOU.

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REBECCA: HE WILL PURIFY
YOU AND READY YOU

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FOR WHAT HE'S CALLING
YOU TO.

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JOSEPH Z: THE ANOINTING THAT
GOD, PUT ON OUR LIFE

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IS THE POWER TO MOVE


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HELL OUT OF THE WAY.


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AND THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE CALLED TO DO.

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WE'RE NOT CALLED TO
DO WHAT'S POSSIBLE,

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WE'RE CALLED TO DO
WHAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

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THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHEN
GOD SPEAKS SOMETHING,

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YOU STAND WITH IT.




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REBECCA: YOU'RE BACK.


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JOSEPH Z: OH, I'M BACK.


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I'M BACK.


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IT'S LIKE A SEQUEL.


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REBECCA: I HAVE A JOKESTER


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WITH ME ON THE
OTHER SIDE.

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YOU KNOW, I HAVE INTERVIEWED
ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.

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SOME PEOPLE ARE
VERY LIKE STRAIT-LACED.

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JOSEPH Z: THEY'RE
LIKE SO ANYWAY.

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[ LAUGHTER ]


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REBECCA: OKAY, SO
WELCOME BACK.

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JOSEPH Z: THANK YOU, MA'AM.


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REBECCA: OKAY.


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SO LITERALLY LAST TIME


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I INTERVIEWED YOU,


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I THINK I WAS PREGNANT.


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SO, IT'S LIKE MANY,
MANY MONTHS AGO.

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JOSEPH Z: IT WAS, YEAH.


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REBECCA: BUT YOU WERE
TELLING YOUR STORY

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AND WE HAD TO CUT IT SHORT
BECAUSE SO I WAS LIKE

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PLEASE COME BACK.


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SO NOW, YOU'RE HERE.


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SO WE LEFT OFF WITH JUST
A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON

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JOSEPH AND HAS AN
INCREDIBLE TESTIMONY.

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WE'LL LINK HIS
VIDEO DOWN BELOW,

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SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO
CATCH UP TO THIS

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PART OF THE STORY.


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BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT
MIRACULOUSLY SAVED.

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JOSEPH Z: YES.


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REBECCA: AND BASICALLY,
YOU'RE PROPHETIC.

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I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU CALL
YOURSELF A PROPHET?

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JOSEPH Z: I DON'T, BUT
SOME MANY PEOPLE HAVE.

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IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S STUCK.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JOSEPH Z: BUT I'M NOT, I'M
NOT INTO TITLES, REBECCA.

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REBECCA: I LIKE THAT.


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THAT'S A GREEN FLAG.


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THAT MEANS THAT'S GOOD.


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THAT'S A GOOD SIGN.


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A LITTLE GEN Z
TALK THERE.

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JOSEPH Z: A
LITTLE GEN Z TALK.

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REBECCA: I'M NOT EVEN
GEN Z, OKAY.

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ANYWAYS, UM,


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BUT CRAZY STORY.


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SO MAKE SURE TO
CHECK THAT OUT,

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BUT WE LEFT OFF WITH
YOU'RE IN MINISTRY.

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JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


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REBECCA: AND YOU START
SERVING YOUR FATHER-IN-LAW.

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JOSEPH Z: RIGHT.


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REBECCA: OKAY.


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PICK UP THERE.


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JOSEPH Z: OKAY.


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WELL, FIRST OF ALL,


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LET ME SAY THIS.


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YOU'RE ONE OF MY
FAVORITE PEOPLE.

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REBECCA: OH!


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JOSEPH Z: BECAUSE THE HAND
OF GOD IS SO ON YOU

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AND JUST THE WAY


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THAT YOU LEAD WITH JOY


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AND WHAT YOU DO.


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I JUST GOTTA SAY TO
ALL YOUR LISTENERS,

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AND ALL YOUR VIEWERS,


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YOU'RE THE REAL DEAL.


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AND I JUST THINK
YOU'RE AWESOME.

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SO, THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME ON YOUR PODCAST.

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REBECCA: WELL, THE
FEELING IS MUTUAL.

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THANKS FOR COMING BACK.


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JOSEPH Z: LET'S GO.


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BUT I STARTED SERVING
WITH MY FATHER-IN-LAW

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WHO WAS A GLOBAL
INTERNATIONAL PROPHET,

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LIKE HE PROPHESIED
EVANDER HOLYFIELD

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YOU'RE GOING TO BEAT
MIKE TYSON.

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REBECCA: REALLY?


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JOSEPH Z: YEP.


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HE DID A NUMBER OF THINGS
WHERE HE WOULD STAND

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BEFORE PARLIAMENT AND
DIFFERENT NATIONS

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AND WE DID STADIUM
MEETINGS TOGETHER.

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WE DID THE PIT TO THE
PALACE TO EVERYTHING

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AND HE WAS AWESOME.


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I MEAN, HE IS
IN HEAVEN TODAY.

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BUT HE WAS AWESOME.


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THE FIRST TIME


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I MET HIM,


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HE CAME TO A MEETING THAT
I WAS IN AND I'M ABOUT 20

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YEARS OLD AND HE WALKS
INTO THIS MEETING.

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AND IT WAS ON MY BIRTHDAY AND
HE COMES INTO THIS MEETING

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AND HE CALLS OUT ALL THESE
PEOPLE IN THE MEETING.

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AND WHEN HE STARTED,


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HE BEGINS TO
PROPHESY AND SPEAK.

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AND SUDDENLY, REBECCA, IT
WAS LIKE THIS,

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THE FIRE ALARMS WENT
OFF IN THE ROOM.

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THE FIRE ALARMS WENT
OFF AND IT WAS A GIANT

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GYMNASIUM THAT
WE WERE ALL IN.

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HE STARTS PROPHESYING THE
FIRE ALARMS GO OFF

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AND THEY WENT ON AND ON
FOR ABOUT 40 MINUTES

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AND HE KEPT PREACHING
AND THE POWER --

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REBECCA: WHAT?


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JOSEPH Z: YEAH, THE POWER
OF GOD WAS SO STRONG,

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THE FIRE ALARMS WENT OFF,
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT

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NEVER SHOWED UP.


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AND WE'RE IN A SCHOOL
GYMNASIUM FOR

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THIS CHURCH MEETING.


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AND WHEN HE GETS
DONE WITH

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THAT, NOT DONE, IN
THE MIDDLE OF IT,

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HE STARTS TO PROPHESY


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AND A DEMONIZED LADY
JUMPS UP AND STARTS

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SCREAMING IN THE MEETING,


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SAYING I'M GOING TO


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BASICALLY KILL THIS VESSEL
AND I'M GOING TO TAKE OUT

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THESE PEOPLE IN
FRONT OF ME.

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AND I'M GOING TO TAKE


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ALL YOU ALL OUT SAYING
ALL THIS STUFF.

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AND AS THIS IS HAPPENING,


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HE WALKS OVER AND HE'S SO
UNDER THE POWER OF GOD.

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HE LOOKS AT THIS WOMAN
AND SAYS BE

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QUIET, SIT DOWN, IN 30 DAYS


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YOU'LL BE COMPLETELY
DELIVERED OF THIS

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AND IT WAS A WILD STORY.


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ONE THING LEADS
TO ANOTHER.

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WE FOUND OUT


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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
SITTING IN FRONT OF HER

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WERE DRIVING IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD

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THAT DAY AND SAID,


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HEY, WE'VE NEVER GONE TO A
CHARISMATIC CHURCH BEFORE.

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WHY DON'T WE PULL INTO THAT
PARKING LOT AND JUST KIND OF SEE

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WHAT THEY DO ON SUNDAYS.


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REBECCA: OH,


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MY GOODNESS.


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JOSEPH Z: RIGHT.


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SO THIS DEMONIZED LADY
JUMPS UP, FIRE ALARMS.

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HE'S PROPHESYING
TO EVERYBODY.

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THERE'S A LADY, A COUPLE
SITTING ACROSS THE AISLE.

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AS HE'S PROPHESYING TO
THIS DEMONIZED WOMAN,

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HE WIELDS OVER BECAUSE
HE HEARD THEIR THOUGHTS

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AND HE LEANS OVER TO THEM
AND SAID, LIKE JESUS SAID,

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KNOWING THEIR
THOUGHTS SAID,

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HE WIELDS OVER AND SAYS,
WHY WOULD YOU DOUBT

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THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD


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AND ALL THESE THINGS?


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AND THEY STARTED
SCREAMING LIKE,

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OH, GOD KNOWS OUR THOUGHTS
AND IT WAS VERY DRAMATIC.

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THEN HE COMES
OVER TO ME

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AFTER ALL THIS IS
GOING ON.

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HE COMES OVER TO ME AND
HE BEGAN TO PROPHECY

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MY LIFE TO ME.


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TELLING ME WHAT
I'M GOING TO DO,

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MY CALLING, MY
MANDATE ALL OF IT.

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AND THIS IS ON
MY 20TH BIRTHDAY.

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AND HE REALLY CALLED ME
OUT AND SAID THE LORD IS

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GOING TO SEND ME AROUND
THE NATION, IS GOING TO DO

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ALL THIS STUFF.


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AND THIS IS ALL HAPPENING
AND JUST TO TIE OFF

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THE STORY ABOUT THE
DEMONIZED LADY.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JOSEPH Z: 30 DAYS LATER,


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SHE WAS IN FULL BLOWN
MANIFESTATION OF DEMONS.

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ALL THIS STUFF
WAS HAPPENING.

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THE EYEWITNESSES SAID SHE
WAS ACTUALLY FLOATING OFF

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THIS BED AND CRAZY
STUFF LIKE THAT, RIGHT?

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I WASN'T THERE.


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I DON'T KNOW.


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BUT ALL I KNOW IS
THAT WAS HAPPENING

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AND THEN SHE WAS TOTALLY
DELIVERED IN THAT MOMENT

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TO THE DAY THAT THE
PROPHETIC WORD HAPPENED.

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AND SHE'S NOW LIKE
IN MINISTRY

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SOMEWHERE DOING
SOMETHING.

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SHE WAS TOTALLY SET FREE.


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REBECCA: WOW.


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JOSEPH Z: SO THERE WAS
THIS WILD NARRATIVE

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THAT TOOK PLACE.


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BUT WHEN HE WAS THERE,


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WHEN HE WAS THERE, IT
WAS A JUMPSTART

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IN MY LIFE WITH
THE PROPHETIC.

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NOW SINCE I WAS A
KID LIKE LAST TIME

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WE TALKED, HAD THESE
WILD ENCOUNTERS,

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WILD EXPERIENCES.


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AND THEN WHEN
I MET THIS MAN,

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IT JUST TOOK OFF TO
A WHOLE NEW LEVEL.

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AND THERE WAS A LOT OF,
YOU KNOW, LIKE IN ANY

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CIRCUMSTANCE OR FAMILY,


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WE GOT GOOD.


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WE GOT BAD.


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WE GOT STUFF.


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EVERYBODY KNOWS
ABOUT STUFF.

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AND AS I WAS DOING THIS,


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HE TOOK ME AROUND THE
WORLD, THOUGH.

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WE LEARNED THE PROPHETIC.


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I LEARNED A LOT
OF WHAT NOT TO DO,

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AND I LEARNED WHAT TO DO.


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AND I ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW,


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I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO BE
A PART OF THE PROPHETIC

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BECAUSE OF SOME OF
THE CRAZY STUFF I'D SEEN.

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REBECCA: YEAH, I CAN
RELATE TO THAT.

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JOSEPH Z: YEAH, NOT
NECESSARILY WITH HIM,

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BUT JUST KIND OF WITH THE
WHOLE MOVEMENT IN GENERAL.

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SO I SHUNNED IT, EVEN THOUGH I
HAD THIS POWERFUL GIFT

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WORKING IN MY LIFE.


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I DIDN'T WANT TO AMPLIFY
THAT BECAUSE I FELT LIKE

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IT WAS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE
TO THE WORD OF GOD,

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TEACHING THE WORD, GETTING
PEOPLE AWAKE IN THE WORD,

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WHICH IS SO VITAL.


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AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT,


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YOU'RE GOING TO GO OFF THE
RAILS PROPHETICALLY.

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BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT,
THAT TIMEFRAME,

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I BELIEVE, GOD TENURED ME,
REALLY WORKED ON ME,

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CHISELED ON ME.


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AND I WENT AROUND THE
WORLD AND SAW HOW

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A PROPHETIC MINISTRY
SHOULD OPERATE

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WITH LEADERS AND
GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS

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AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.


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AND SO SINCE THAT TIME,


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WE'VE BEEN EVERYWHERE FROM THE
CHURCH TO THE PIT TO THE PALACE

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WITH, YOU KNOW, ROCKSTARS
AND LEADERS ON

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THEIR BUSES PROPHESYING TO
THEM AND THEN JUST ALL THE

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WAY DOWN TO JUST
SMALL HOME GROUPS

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WHERE WE MINISTERED
TO PEOPLE.

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SOMETIMES WITH
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, ALL

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THAT STUFF, BUT IT ALL
STARTED BECAUSE OF THIS

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MAN OF GOD REALLY CALLING
ME OUT IN A MEETING

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AND THEN I WENT ON A
JOURNEY WITH HIM.

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AND I MET HIS


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DAUGHTER IN THE PROCESS.


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YOU KNOW, HEATHER,
HEATHER'S BEEN HERE

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AND HEATHER IS AMAZING.


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REBECCA: SHE IS.


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JOSEPH Z: SHE IS AMAZING.


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REBECCA: WE LOVE HER.


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JOSEPH Z: OH, MY GOSH.


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BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND
OF THE NUTSHELL OF IT.

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BUT I'LL TELL YOU
ONE OF THE THINGS

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I LEARNED IN PROPHECY IS
YOU'VE GOT TO BE ROOTED

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IN THAT WORD OF GOD.


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YOU KNOW, IT SAYS IN FIRST
CORINTHIANS 4:6,

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LEARN FROM US,


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PAUL SAID, TO
NOT GO BEYOND

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WHAT IS WRITTEN.


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AND I'D
SEEN SO MUCH PROPHETIC

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EXPERIENCE WHERE
PEOPLE GO BEYOND

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WHAT IS WRITTEN.


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THEY MAKE
UP SENSATIONAL THINGS

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BECAUSE IT GETS
AN AUDIENCE.

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THEY MAKE UP SENSATIONAL
EXPERIENCES BECAUSE IT

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GETS PEOPLE DRAWN TO THEM.


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BUT WHAT WE GOT TO DO IS


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HAVE PROPHETIC INTEGRITY.


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AND SO I JUST GOTTA
SAY IT, REBECCA.

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ONE OF THE THINGS


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I'VE LEARNED THROUGH THE
PROPHETIC IS WE NEED A

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BETTER HERMENEUTIC
AND THAT'S

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A BIG OLE WORD, RIGHT?


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HERMENEUTIC.


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WHAT DO YOU SAY?


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REBECCA: I TOOK
HERMENEUTICS IN SCHOOL.

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JOSEPH Z: YES, YOU DID,


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THAT'S RIGHT.


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THE ART AND SCIENCE OF
INTERPRETATION.

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AND WITH PROPHECY, ONE OF THE
THINGS I LEARNED IS THAT WE NEED

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A BETTER FORM OF
INTERPRETATION.

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WE KNOW THERE'S A
REVELATION.

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MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THAT,


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THE REVELATION OF GOD.


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OH, MY GOODNESS, MUFASA.


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I FEEL SOMETHING, RIGHT?


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I SEE SOMETHING,


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BUT THEN THERE COMES
INTERPRETATION.

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AND WE'VE GOT TO GET TO
THE POINT OF APPLICATION.

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I BELIEVE THAT'S
A BETTER WAY

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TO WORK OUT THESE
EXPERIENCES.

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WE ALL KNOW LIKE IN 2020,


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FOR EXAMPLE, WONDERFUL
PROPHETIC VOICES RELEASED

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A WHOLE BUNCH OF
CONTRADICTORY WORDS.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JOSEPH Z: BUT THE
PROBLEM IS, IS SO MANY

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OF THEM SEEM LIKE THEY


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WERE CONTENDING AND
FIGHTING ONE ANOTHER

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AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S
GOING THIS WAY.

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IT'S GOING THAT WAY.


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HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE.


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GOD IS NOT THE
AUTHOR OF CONFUSION.

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HE'S THE AUTHOR OF PEACE,
BUT MANY TIMES

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WE GET A REVELATION,


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WE NEED TO PROPERLY
INTERPRET IT

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AND THEN COME TO
GOOD APPLICATION.

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DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOOD
APPLICATION IS?

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IT'S JUST SIMPLY WHERE WE
HAVE GOOD PEOPLE SKILLS

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AND WE USE EMOTIONAL
INTELLIGENCE.

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WE ACTUALLY USE
THE INTELLECT

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GOD GAVE US TO
NOT HURT PEOPLE,

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BUT BRING THEM TO A PLACE
OF A SATISFYING END TO

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WHAT GOD'S CALLED THEM
TO DO OR BRING THEM TO A

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CONCLUSION THAT THE LORD
HAS LED THEM TO.

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INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING SOME
OTHER MYSTICAL EUPHORIC GOOFBALL

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TYPE OF RESPONSE
TO THINGS,

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WE NEED, WE NEED RESULTS.


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PEOPLE NEED RESULTS.


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YOU KNOW THE CHURCH
OF JESUS CHRIST,

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BOTH THE CHURCH AND THE WORLD
DESERVE TO SEE SOMETHING.

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THEY DESERVE TO SEE
MATURE BELIEVERS.

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AND MATURE BELIEVERS
ARE THOSE

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THAT THEY EXERCISE
THEIR SENSES.

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HEBREWS 5:14 SAYS THAT THE
REASON OF USE WHEN THEY

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EXERCISE THEIR SENSES,


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THEY BIRTH DISCERNMENT.


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THEY WALK IN A POSITION OF


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I KNOW WHAT IS GOOD,


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AND I KNOW WHAT IS EVIL.


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AND IT'S NOT BASED ON


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EMOTIONAL
SENSATIONALISM

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OR CHARGED CIRCUMSTANCES.


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RATHER WE KNOW THE TRUTH
OF A MATTER BECAUSE WE'RE

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SO ROOTED IN THE WORD
OF GOD THAT WE JUDGE

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OURSELVES FIRST AND
THEN WE BEGIN TO WALK

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IN THE SPIRIT OF GOD.


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I'LL TELL YOU,


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THAT'S -- THAT'S WHERE THE
REAL RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.

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AND SO THESE ARE THINGS I
LEARNED IN THE PROCESS,

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BUT IT WAS A LONG
JOURNEY FOR ME.

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IT REALLY WAS.


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AND, YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT
ON YOUR LIFE TOO

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BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH
A PROPHETIC SENSE OF THINGS.

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YOU'RE SO EMPATHETIC.


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YOU'RE SO JOYFUL.


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YOU BRING SUCH LIFE
TO PEOPLE,

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REBECCA, THAT THE
SPIRIT OF GOD

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JUST FLOWS OUT OF YOU.


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AND, YOU KNOW,


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I JUST BELIEVE GOD MAKES
YOU MORE AND MORE,

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YOU'RE STEPPING INTO THIS
GATEKEEPING ANOINTING

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AND I BELIEVE GOD'S
GOING TO ELEVATE YOU,

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ELEVATE YOUR LIFE.


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ELEVATE THE TORCH THAT
YOU'RE HOLDING IN YOUR

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HAND BECAUSE GOD IS
SO PLEASED WITH YOU.

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YOU HAVE SUCH A SENSE OF
AUTHORITY ON YOUR LIFE

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AND YOU'RE GROWING INTO
THAT MORE AND MORE.

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AND IT'S ACTUALLY FUN TO BE A
PART OF YOUR PODCAST BECAUSE

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PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE
THROUGH THIS THING.

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I'M TELLING YOU, YOU'RE NOT
AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT REAL

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THINGS AND PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO REALLY BREAK

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THROUGH FROM IT.


00:10:00.333 --> 00:10:00.766
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:10:00.866 --> 00:10:01.199
I RECEIVE THAT.


00:10:01.299 --> 00:10:02.033
THANK YOU.


00:10:02.133 --> 00:10:03.232
JOSEPH Z: YOU'RE
WELCOME, MA'AM.

00:10:03.332 --> 00:10:04.433
REBECCA: MAN, THERE'S SO
MANY DIFFERENT THINGS

00:10:04.533 --> 00:10:06.166
I COULD TAKE DIRECTIONS.


00:10:06.266 --> 00:10:07.966
I COULD GO OFF OF THAT.


00:10:08.066 --> 00:10:11.500
BUT I THINK ONE OF THE
THINGS IS -- ONE THING THAT I

00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:12.433
WANT TO -- THE FIRST THING


00:10:12.533 --> 00:10:13.333
I WANT TO HIT ON IS THIS.


00:10:13.433 --> 00:10:14.000
JOSEPH Z: SURE.


00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:14.966
REBECCA: YOU WENT THROUGH


00:10:15.066 --> 00:10:17.366
A VERY INTENSIVE PROCESS.


00:10:17.466 --> 00:10:18.266
JOSEPH Z: I DID.


00:10:18.366 --> 00:10:19.433
REBECCA: AND THAT IS
SO IMPORTANT.

00:10:19.533 --> 00:10:20.333
JOSEPH Z: IT IS.


00:10:20.433 --> 00:10:21.499
REBECCA: FOR THOSE
WHO ARE CALLED...

00:10:21.599 --> 00:10:22.566
JOSEPH Z: OH, MAN.


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REBECCA: YOU KNOW, THE
BIBLE SAYS GOD CHASTISES

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THOSE HE LOVES.


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JOSEPH Z: IT'S TRUE.


00:10:26.833 --> 00:10:27.899
REBECCA: AND I'M GOING
THROUGH THE BOOK OF

00:10:27.999 --> 00:10:30.999
JOB RIGHT NOW AND I'M, I'M
FINALLY ABLE I THINK TO

00:10:31.099 --> 00:10:31.799
GLEAN FROM THAT BOOK.


00:10:31.899 --> 00:10:32.933
THAT BOOK MADE NO
SENSE TO ME

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MY WHOLE LIFE, BUT GOD WAS
TESTING JOB AND HE WAS

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PREPARING HIM FOR
WHAT WAS TO COME.

00:10:39.099 --> 00:10:39.900
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:41.199
REBECCA: AND IF GOD
REALLY LOVES US,

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HE WILL TEST US SO THAT
WE CAN HANDLE WHAT HE'S

00:10:43.433 --> 00:10:46.366
CALLING US TO EVEN
BLESSING AND, YOU KNOW,

00:10:46.466 --> 00:10:47.466
AND ONE OF THIS --


00:10:47.566 --> 00:10:49.533
I'M ABOUT TO HAVE THIS
GUY ON NAMED DALE MAST.

00:10:49.633 --> 00:10:50.633
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS


00:10:50.733 --> 00:10:53.866
HE SAID WAS IF YOU WANT TO
RUIN SOMEONE'S LIFE,

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HAVE THEM WIN THE LOTTERY.


00:10:55.300 --> 00:10:56.233
JOSEPH Z: OH, THAT'S TRUE.


00:10:56.333 --> 00:10:57.299
REBECCA: WHEN SOMEONE
JUST WALKS STRAIGHT

00:10:57.399 --> 00:10:59.499
INTO A HUGE BLESSING,


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THEY DON'T KNOW
HOW TO HANDLE IT.

00:11:00.733 --> 00:11:01.466
JOSEPH Z: IT'S TRUE.


00:11:01.566 --> 00:11:02.466
REBECCA: SAME
WITH PLATFORMS,

00:11:02.566 --> 00:11:04.032
SAME WITH INFLUENCE,
SAME WITH ANYTHING.

00:11:04.132 --> 00:11:05.000
AND QUITE FRANKLY,


00:11:05.100 --> 00:11:06.899
WE DON'T SERVE GOD TO
GET THOSE THINGS.

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WE SERVE GOD


00:11:08.066 --> 00:11:09.499
NO MATTER WHAT AND THAT'S
WHY A LOT OF TIMES

00:11:09.599 --> 00:11:11.599
THOSE WHO AREN'T SEEKING
THE PLATFORM ARE THE ONES

00:11:11.699 --> 00:11:14.166
THAT GOD ELEVATES TO IT
BECAUSE IT'S NOT PEOPLE --

00:11:14.266 --> 00:11:16.066
IT'S PEOPLE WHO WANT HIM
AND HIM TO BE GLORIFIED.

00:11:16.166 --> 00:11:17.233
JOSEPH Z: SO GOOD.


00:11:17.333 --> 00:11:18.233
REBECCA: BUT IT'S
THROUGH THE TESTING

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THAT GOD PREPARES
US FOR THAT.

00:11:20.233 --> 00:11:21.133
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:11:21.233 --> 00:11:22.133
REBECCA: SO YOU WENT
THROUGH A LONG TIME.

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JOSEPH Z: OH, MAN,
WELL, GOD, NEVER DOES

00:11:24.300 --> 00:11:25.466
THESE THINGS TO KILL YOU.


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HE NEVER DOES
THESE THINGS

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TO DESTROY YOU,
PRUNING ANYTHING.

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LET'S TAKE JOB,
FOR EXAMPLE.

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JOB WENT THROUGH ALL
THIS STUFF.

00:11:30.932 --> 00:11:32.433
BUT, LISTEN, WHEN PEOPLE
SAY I'M GOING THROUGH

00:11:32.533 --> 00:11:34.299
A JOB'S TRIAL, OKAY.


00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:36.100
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE
IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.

00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:37.366
YOU GO THROUGH
A JOB'S TRIAL,

00:11:37.466 --> 00:11:38.366
WELL, THEN YOU
BETTER COME OUT WITH

00:11:38.466 --> 00:11:39.533
A JOB BLESSING AT THE END.


00:11:39.633 --> 00:11:40.566
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:11:40.666 --> 00:11:41.199
JOSEPH Z: YOU BETTER
HAVE A MULTIPLIER ON YOU

00:11:41.299 --> 00:11:42.200
AT THE END.


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GOD DOESN'T DO THESE
THINGS TO KILL YOU.

00:11:44.066 --> 00:11:44.900
PERSECUTION AND TRIALS


00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.133
DON'T COME TO BETTER
YOU, THEY CAN.

00:11:47.233 --> 00:11:48.933
BUT HE DOESN'T SEND
THEM TO BETTER YOU.

00:11:49.033 --> 00:11:51.399
THE DEVIL SENDS THEM TO KILL
YOU, TO RIP THE WORD

00:11:51.499 --> 00:11:52.966
OF GOD OUT OF YOUR LIFE.


00:11:53.066 --> 00:11:55.566
BUT WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE
THIS IS COMING TO STEAL

00:11:55.666 --> 00:11:56.699
THE WORD OUT OF MY LIFE.


00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:58.066
THIS IS WHY TRIALS COME.


00:11:58.166 --> 00:11:59.133
THEY DON'T BETTER YOU,


00:11:59.233 --> 00:12:01.533
BUT GOD DOES DISCIPLINE
BY HIS WORD, RIGHT?

00:12:01.633 --> 00:12:03.433
SO WHEN WE BEGIN TO
GET DISCIPLINED UNDER

00:12:03.533 --> 00:12:04.499
THE MIGHTY HAND OF GOD,


00:12:04.599 --> 00:12:05.799
IT'S SO THAT HE
CAN BETTER US.

00:12:05.899 --> 00:12:07.732
PRUNING COMES TO
MULTIPLY US.

00:12:07.832 --> 00:12:10.033
BUT LIKE YOU JUST SAID,
IF YOU'RE NOT --

00:12:10.133 --> 00:12:12.200
IF YOU'RE NOT TEMPERED
UP WITH THAT,

00:12:12.300 --> 00:12:12.766
IT'LL KILL YOU.


00:12:12.866 --> 00:12:13.933
IT'LL DESTROY YOU.


00:12:14.033 --> 00:12:15.266
BUT WHEN THE TIME COMES


00:12:15.366 --> 00:12:17.266
AND YOU'VE BEEN TEMPERED
AND YOU DON'T FAINT

00:12:17.366 --> 00:12:18.266
IN THE DAY OF ADVERSITY.


00:12:18.366 --> 00:12:19.733
YOUR STRENGTH
IS NOT SMALL.

00:12:19.833 --> 00:12:20.766
YOU DON'T SHRINK BACK.


00:12:20.866 --> 00:12:22.733
YOU'RE THE RIGHTEOUS ONE
LEANS INTO WHAT GOD'S

00:12:22.833 --> 00:12:24.033
CALLING THEM TO DO.


00:12:24.133 --> 00:12:25.566
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED
TO ME, REBECCA.

00:12:25.666 --> 00:12:27.233
I WAS IN A SEASON,


00:12:27.333 --> 00:12:28.066
WE STARTED
PLANTING CHURCHES

00:12:28.166 --> 00:12:29.132
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.


00:12:29.232 --> 00:12:30.933
I HAD A TEAM OF ABOUT 40
PEOPLE WITH A TV CREW

00:12:31.033 --> 00:12:32.233
THAT WENT WITH
ME EVERYWHERE.

00:12:32.333 --> 00:12:33.599
WE WERE PROPHESYING
AND PREACHING

00:12:33.699 --> 00:12:34.833
EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK.


00:12:34.933 --> 00:12:36.833
AND I WAS DODGING
THE PROPHETIC LABEL.

00:12:36.933 --> 00:12:38.333
PEOPLE LIKE YOU'RE
A PROPHET.

00:12:38.433 --> 00:12:39.500
I'M LIKE I'M A PASTOR.


00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:40.400
I'M A TEACHER.


00:12:40.500 --> 00:12:41.299
I HAVE DIGNITY.


00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:43.299
I'M NOT CRAZY, RIGHT?


00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:45.733
REBECCA: IT'S BEEN SO RARE --


00:12:45.833 --> 00:12:48.066
I THINK PEOPLE IN THE
PROPHETIC THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW,

00:12:48.166 --> 00:12:50.133
SO MANY OF
THEM GO SOUTH.

00:12:50.233 --> 00:12:51.466
THAT'S A WHOLE
OTHER CONVERSATION.

00:12:51.566 --> 00:12:52.266
SO THAT'S WHY --


00:12:52.366 --> 00:12:53.466
JOSEPH Z: WELL, I
JUST FIGURED

00:12:53.566 --> 00:12:54.466
I COULD HAVE GOT A REAL HUGE
FOLLOWING IF I HAD POPPED

00:12:54.566 --> 00:12:56.066
AN ALKA-SELTZER AND
SHAKE A LITTLE BIT.

00:12:56.166 --> 00:12:57.132
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:12:57.232 --> 00:12:57.699
JOSEPH Z: PEOPLE WOULD
BE LIKE HE'S DROOLING.

00:12:57.799 --> 00:12:58.533
WOW, IT'S AMAZING.


00:12:58.633 --> 00:12:59.599
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:12:59.699 --> 00:13:01.599
JOSEPH Z: NO, BUT I WENT
THROUGH ALL THE STUFF

00:13:01.699 --> 00:13:04.766
AND I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE
THE LORD CALLED ME.

00:13:04.866 --> 00:13:06.132
AND THEN RIGHT
AT THE HEIGHT

00:13:06.232 --> 00:13:09.332
OF SOME VERY
SERIOUS SUCCESS,

00:13:09.432 --> 00:13:10.833
WE HAD STADIUM
MEETINGS BOOKED

00:13:10.933 --> 00:13:11.732
IN DIFFERENT NATIONS.


00:13:11.832 --> 00:13:12.733
I HAD THINGS THAT
WERE HAPPENING.

00:13:12.833 --> 00:13:14.233
I WAS THE HEADLINER,
EVERYTHING'S PAID FOR.

00:13:14.333 --> 00:13:15.033
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:13:15.133 --> 00:13:15.899
JOSEPH Z: WE
WERE GOING TO GO.

00:13:15.999 --> 00:13:16.632
AND THE SPIRIT OF
THE LORD MET ME

00:13:16.732 --> 00:13:18.366
IN THE MOUNTAINS OF COLORADO.


00:13:18.466 --> 00:13:21.366
AND HE SAID, SON, YOU CAN GO
ON THIS TRIP AND I'M GOING

00:13:21.466 --> 00:13:23.932
TO BLESS IT BECAUSE MY
WORD WILL NOT RETURN VOID.

00:13:24.032 --> 00:13:25.466
BUT HERE'S WHAT
I WANT YOU TO DO.

00:13:25.566 --> 00:13:28.533
I WANT YOU TO SIT DOWN AND
MINISTER TO YOUR FAMILY.

00:13:28.633 --> 00:13:31.132
I WANT YOU TO MINISTER TO
YOUR KIDS AND YOUR WIFE

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BECAUSE WE RAN FOR
NEARLY 20 YEARS.

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WE NEVER TOOK A VACATION.


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NEVER TOOK A BREAK.


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NEVER DID ANYTHING.


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REBECCA: OH.


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JOSEPH Z: AND, YOU KNOW,
HEATHER ON THAT TIME

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IS ON DIALYSIS.


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SHE'S DYING, ALL THESE
THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

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SHE HAD A HEREDITARY
KIDNEY FAILURE DOUBLE.

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SHE, YOU KNOW, CAME
BACK FROM THAT.

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THANK GOD.


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SHE GOT A MIRACLE
TRANSPLANT AFTER A FEW

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YEARS OF DIALYSIS.


00:13:49.466 --> 00:13:50.599
OUR SON HAD AUTISM.


00:13:50.699 --> 00:13:51.733
WE HAD ALL THIS STUFF.


00:13:51.833 --> 00:13:53.066
WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH ONE
THING AFTER ANOTHER.

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OUR DAUGHTER ALSO


00:13:54.366 --> 00:13:55.766
HAD THIS HEREDITARY
KIDNEY ISSUE,

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ALMOST KILLED HER.


00:13:56.666 --> 00:13:57.599
SHE GOT A SURGERY.


00:13:57.699 --> 00:13:59.699
SHE CAME THROUGH IT, ONE
THING AFTER ANOTHER.

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WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL
KINDS OF PERSECUTION,

00:14:01.999 --> 00:14:03.699
CRISIS AND CRAZY STUFF.


00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:05.166
AT THE VERY END OF IT,


00:14:05.266 --> 00:14:05.933
I'M IN THE MOUNTAINS.


00:14:06.033 --> 00:14:07.032
THE LORD SAYS SIT DOWN.


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I THOUGHT HE MEANT
FOR LIKE THIS TRIP.

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AND SO I KNOW ONE
THING ABOUT THE LORD.

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IF WE DO THE DIFFICULT,


00:14:12.899 --> 00:14:14.300
HE WILL DO THE
IMPOSSIBLE.

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ESPECIALLY WHEN HE'S
TALKING TO US.

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IF WE WILL DO THE
DIFFICULT WHEN HE'S

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SPEAKING TO US,
HE'S ABOUT

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TO DO THE IMPOSSIBLE,


00:14:21.366 --> 00:14:22.966
IF YOU CAN HANG IN THERE.


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SO I DID I SAID OKAY.


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REBECCA: THAT'S A GOOD WORD.


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JOSEPH Z: THANK YOU,
PRAISE GOD.

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I SAID, LORD, IF
THAT'S THE CASE,

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THEN I'M GOING TO
LAY IT DOWN.

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AND I REMEMBER THEY ASKED ME
WHY AREN'T YOU COMING?

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BECAUSE I SAID, I CAN'T COME.


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WHY AREN'T YOU COMING?


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I SAID, I DON'T KNOW.


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I DON'T KNOW.


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I JUST KNOW THAT
I CAN'T COME.

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AND IT WAS A VERY
BIG EVENT.

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LATER, A BUNCH OF MY
FRIENDS DID IT.

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THERE'S A LOT OF MAIN
SPEAKERS, WELL-KNOWN

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SPEAKERS THAT TOOK
THESE EVENTS LATER.

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I SAT DOWN AND THE SPIRIT


00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:51.966
OF THE LORD SPOKE TO
ME AND SAID,

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I JUST WANT YOU TO
REALLY FOCUS ON ME.

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A YEAR WENT BY, OKAY.


00:14:56.433 --> 00:14:57.466
NOW WE HAD PARTNERS.


00:14:57.566 --> 00:14:59.533
WE HAD PEOPLE FOLLOWING
US AND I LET IT ALL GO.

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REBECCA: WOW.


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JOSEPH Z: IT WAS
REALLY DIFFICULT.

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I LET IT ALL GO.


00:15:02.300 --> 00:15:03.166
AND I'D LIKE TO SAY,


00:15:03.266 --> 00:15:04.700
I WAS JUST IN PEACE
AND I'M HANGING OUT.

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OH, HALLELUJAH.


00:15:05.900 --> 00:15:08.199
NO, I WAS LIKE
WHAT AM I DOING?

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I GOTTA GET GOING.


00:15:09.333 --> 00:15:10.066
I TRIED --


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REBECCA: THAT'S
FAITH THOUGH.

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IT'S NOT ALL KUMBAYA.


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IT'S LIKE YOU CAN HAVE
PEACE IN YOUR SPIRIT,

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BUT IN YOUR MIND,


00:15:15.433 --> 00:15:16.299
YOU'RE LIKE LOGISTICALLY


00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:17.333
HOW IS THIS
GOING TO PAN OUT?

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THE MIND WANTS
TO UNDERSTAND,

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BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO
WALK INTO THE UNKNOWN

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AND FOLLOW HIS LEADING.


00:15:22.299 --> 00:15:23.166
JOSEPH Z: OH, IT'S TRUE.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JOSEPH Z: YEAH, AND THAT'S,
THAT'S HOW GOD LEADS,

00:15:27.166 --> 00:15:28.033
HE WANTS TO BE TRUSTED.


00:15:28.133 --> 00:15:29.233
REBECCA: YEAH.


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JOSEPH Z: GOD'S GOT THIS THING
ABOUT BEING BELIEVED.

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HE JUST DOES.


00:15:33.100 --> 00:15:34.032
HE'S KIND OF GOT AN
ISSUE WITH IT.

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IF YOU BELIEVE HIM, BOY,
HE CAN TRUST YOU.

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IF YOU DON'T,


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AND YOU BUILD IT ON
YOUR OWN EFFORTS,

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IF YOU BUILD WHAT
YOU'RE DOING

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ON YOUR OWN STRENGTH,


00:15:41.066 --> 00:15:43.233
YOU KNOW, THAT TIES INTO
MAMMON WHERE IT'S SELF-BUILT,

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SELF-MADE ALL THAT.


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IT'S THE OPPOSITE.


00:15:45.966 --> 00:15:46.966
IT'S ACTUALLY
ANTI-CHRIST...

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REBECCA: YEAH.


00:15:48.066 --> 00:15:48.899
JOSEPH Z: WHEN YOU TRY
TO BUILD YOURSELF.

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AND SO I'M IN THIS PLACE


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THREE YEARS LATER.


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OKAY, NEARLY TWO AND
HALF, THREE YEARS.

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REBECCA: WOW.


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JOSEPH Z: YEAH,
I'M SITTING THERE

00:15:57.333 --> 00:15:58.332
AND I'LL NEVER FORGET


00:15:58.432 --> 00:16:00.600
I FINALLY CAME TO THE
POINT WHERE I REALIZED.

00:16:00.700 --> 00:16:03.500
MAYBE GOD DOESN'T WANT ME
IN MINISTRY, YOU KNOW,

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I WOULD PRAY.


00:16:04.599 --> 00:16:05.433
I WOULD DO THINGS.


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I DID LITTLE THINGS
HERE AND THERE.

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BUT I WAS PRAYING
ONE MORNING.

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AND THIS IS KIND OF
FUNNY RIGHT BEFORE

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THE LORD SPOKE TO ME.


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I HAD THIS REALIZATION.


00:16:13.133 --> 00:16:15.900
I'M READING EPHESIANS
4:11 AND 12 AND ABOUT HOW

00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.999
THE FIVEFOLD MINISTRY
IS CALLED TO EDIFY

00:16:18.099 --> 00:16:19.333
AND EQUIP THE SAINTS.


00:16:19.433 --> 00:16:20.833
THIS IS GOING
TO SOUND FUNNY.

00:16:20.933 --> 00:16:21.766
BUT WHEN I HEARD THIS,


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I SAID, LORD, I GET IT.


00:16:24.466 --> 00:16:27.899
MINISTRY IS ABOUT PEOPLE.


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IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE.


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IT'S NOT ABOUT
BUILDING THINGS.

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IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS.


00:16:31.266 --> 00:16:31.732
IT'S NOT --


00:16:31.832 --> 00:16:32.666
IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE.


00:16:32.766 --> 00:16:34.066
AND THE LORD SPOKE TO
ME AND SAID,

00:16:34.166 --> 00:16:38.366
I CAN TRUST YOU WHEN YOU LET
ME LOVE MY PEOPLE THROUGH YOU

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AS OPPOSED TO YOU
JUST PROPHESYING TO

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LIKE A THOUSAND PEOPLE AT
A TIME OR MINISTERING TO

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A FEW HUNDRED OR
EVEN TEN PEOPLE

00:16:44.966 --> 00:16:45.833
JUST ONE AFTER ANOTHER.


00:16:45.966 --> 00:16:48.632
WHEN YOU WILL LET ME LOVE
THEM THROUGH YOU,

00:16:48.732 --> 00:16:49.933
NOW YOU'RE DOING
THE GOSPEL.

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NOW YOU'RE DOING


00:16:51.033 --> 00:16:52.066
WHY I GAVE YOU THIS GIFT.


00:16:52.166 --> 00:16:53.133
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK


00:16:53.233 --> 00:16:54.733
PROPHECY IS HERE TO
REBUKE AND CALL STUFF OUT

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AND DO STUFF.


00:16:55.466 --> 00:16:56.632
THAT'S PART OF IT.


00:16:56.732 --> 00:16:58.866
BUT REALLY EPHESIANS
4:11 AND 12,

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IT'S FOR EDIFYING AND
EQUIPPING THE SAINTS.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


00:17:02.300 --> 00:17:03.133
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S
WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

00:17:03.233 --> 00:17:04.632
SO HERE I AM IN THE
MOUNTAINS, RIGHT?

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I'M SITTING THERE AND I
JUST STARTED TO PRAY.

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AND I THOUGHT, LORD,


00:17:08.866 --> 00:17:10.966
MAYBE YOU'RE CALLING
ME TO GO INTO BUSINESS.

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I'M GONNA SHOW CHRISTIANS
HOW TO REALLY GIVE.

00:17:13.066 --> 00:17:13.966
I'M GOING TO SHOW
THESE PREACHERS,

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I'M TO SHOW
BUSINESS PEOPLE

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HOW GIVING IS DONE, THAT'S
WHAT GOD'S CALLING ME TO DO.

00:17:18.699 --> 00:17:21.599
BUT I'M IN THIS PLACE
AND THEN THE LORD MET ME.

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SOMEBODY HAD SENT
ME A MESSAGE.

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I'M LISTENING TO
SOME TEACHING.

00:17:24.566 --> 00:17:25.666
AND FOR THE THIRD TIME


00:17:25.766 --> 00:17:27.199
IN MY LIFE AND
I'VE HAD THIS

00:17:27.299 --> 00:17:29.533
A FEW TIMES,
THREE TIMES TOTAL,

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THE LORD MET WITH ME
SO DRAMATICALLY, REBECCA.

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I'M THERE IN MY TRUCK


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AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD
FLOODS THE VEHICLE.

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IT WAS SO PALPABLE.


00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:39.466
I THOUGHT HE WAS SITTING
IN THE SEAT NEXT TO ME.

00:17:39.566 --> 00:17:41.300
I COULDN'T EVEN
LOOK OVER THERE

00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:43.333
AND THE POWER OF GOD WAS
SO PALPABLE.

00:17:43.433 --> 00:17:45.033
AND THEN HIS
VOICE SAID TO ME,

00:17:45.133 --> 00:17:47.000
YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE
CALLED YOU TO DO.

00:17:47.100 --> 00:17:49.800
NOW I'M CALLING YOU TO START
BROADCASTING EVERY DAY.

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I'M CALLING IT A GO LIVE
ON SOCIAL MEDIA, GET AFTER IT,

00:17:53.133 --> 00:17:56.333
AND THAT IS WHEN HE CALLED
ME INTO THE OFFICE GIFT,

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AND I STARTED TO
YELL AND SCREAM

00:17:59.433 --> 00:18:01.133
BECAUSE I WAS NOT
THRILLED ABOUT IT.

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REBECCA: OH, NOT HAPPY YELL.


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JOSEPH Z: I WASN'T HAPPY.


00:18:03.366 --> 00:18:06.099
I -- WHEN I -- IT WAS
MAINLY BECAUSE

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THE POWER OF GOD HIT ME.


00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:09.799
BUT I ALSO, IT WAS
ALMOST LIKE A GRIEVING

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OR LIKE A FORM
OF EMOTIONAL --

00:18:11.733 --> 00:18:12.933
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT
TO CALL IT DELIVERANCE,

00:18:13.033 --> 00:18:14.766
BUT SOMETHING, I JUST
NEEDED TO RELEASE IT UNDER

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THE LORD, BECAUSE I
DIDN'T WANT TO GO

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DOWN THE AVENUE
OF PROPHECY.

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I DIDN'T WANT THE
TITLE OF PROPHET.

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I THINK ANYBODY THAT
CRAVES THAT TITLE IS CRAZY.

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REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE
IT'S A HARD CALL.

00:18:25.733 --> 00:18:26.699
JOSEPH Z: IT IS A HARD CALL.


00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:27.900
REBECCA: LOOK AT ALL THE
PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE.

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THEY HAD IT SO HARD.


00:18:29.499 --> 00:18:31.766
I DON'T THINK, I THINK LIKE
THERE'S A VERSION OF IT

00:18:31.866 --> 00:18:34.566
TODAY WHERE IT'S LIKE
SENSATIONAL, THE PEOPLE

00:18:34.666 --> 00:18:36.200
GETTING ALL THE
VIEWS AND THE CLICKS,

00:18:36.300 --> 00:18:38.400
BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT
THE OFFICE OF A PROPHET.

00:18:38.500 --> 00:18:39.233
JOSEPH Z: NO.


00:18:39.333 --> 00:18:40.799
REBECCA: NO, IT'S A
HARD ROAD.

00:18:40.899 --> 00:18:43.266
THE PROPHETS IN THE
BIBLE WERE PERSECUTED

00:18:43.366 --> 00:18:45.566
AND HATED LIKE, YOU KNOW.


00:18:45.666 --> 00:18:46.866
I THINK EVEN
JOHN THE BAPTIST.

00:18:46.966 --> 00:18:49.133
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW,
JEREMIAH, ISAIAH.

00:18:49.233 --> 00:18:52.233
I REMEMBER RESEARCHING HOW
THESE MEN PASSED AND I

00:18:52.333 --> 00:18:53.766
MEAN, THEY WERE SOME OF
THEM WERE MARTYRED.

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THEY WERE KILLED.


00:18:54.766 --> 00:18:55.799
JOSEPH Z: IT WAS BRUTAL.


00:18:55.899 --> 00:18:57.033
REBECCA: I MEAN, ONE OF
THEM WAS SAWED IN HALF.

00:18:57.133 --> 00:18:58.133
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:18:58.233 --> 00:18:59.532
REBECCA: I THINK IN A TREE
OR SOMETHING CRAZY.

00:18:59.632 --> 00:19:00.666
IT'S CRAZY.


00:19:00.766 --> 00:19:02.066
JEREMIAH WAS EXILED.


00:19:02.166 --> 00:19:03.900
I THINK HE WAS
STONED TO DEATH.

00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.500
SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S
A WHOLE SIDE BAR.

00:19:05.600 --> 00:19:08.166
BUT NO, IT'S -- YOU
WERE SAYING, THOUGH,

00:19:08.266 --> 00:19:10.099
SO YOU HAVE THIS ENCOUNTER
AND GOD'S CALLING YOU.

00:19:10.199 --> 00:19:11.000
JOSEPH Z: YES, MA'AM.


00:19:11.100 --> 00:19:11.500
REBECCA: AND YOU'RE
COMING TO TERMS.

00:19:11.600 --> 00:19:12.566
SO KEEP GOING.


00:19:12.666 --> 00:19:14.200
JOSEPH Z: YEAH, SO I'M
COMING TO TERMS WITH IT,

00:19:14.300 --> 00:19:17.400
BUT THE WHOLE BOTTOM LINE IS
THIS, IS GOD CALLED ME.

00:19:17.500 --> 00:19:18.733
AND HE SAID I
WANT YOU TO DO

00:19:18.833 --> 00:19:19.966
WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO,


00:19:20.066 --> 00:19:21.966
GO WHERE I TELL YOU TO GO, AND
STAND WITH WHO I TELL YOU

00:19:22.066 --> 00:19:23.899
TO STAND WITH BECAUSE
THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE.

00:19:23.999 --> 00:19:25.300
THAT'S HOW WINNING
IS DONE.

00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:26.332
AND SO THERE'S TIMES


00:19:26.432 --> 00:19:28.299
PROPHETICALLY I KNOW
TO DO THINGS

00:19:28.399 --> 00:19:29.532
AND I KNOW WHO TO
STAND WITH.

00:19:29.632 --> 00:19:30.633
AND THE REASON IS


00:19:30.733 --> 00:19:32.233
BECAUSE WHEN GOD
MARKS SOMETHING,

00:19:32.333 --> 00:19:33.533
THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS.


00:19:33.633 --> 00:19:34.733
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT


00:19:34.833 --> 00:19:36.032
POPULAR OPINION SAYS.


00:19:36.132 --> 00:19:37.766
IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY.

00:19:37.866 --> 00:19:40.466
WHAT THE SPIRIT OF THE
LORD SAYS IS WHAT MATTERS.

00:19:40.566 --> 00:19:41.899
AND IF YOU'RE IN A
PROPHETIC FLOW,

00:19:41.999 --> 00:19:43.133
YOU CAN DISCERN THAT.


00:19:43.233 --> 00:19:44.632
YOU CAN SEE IT AND
YOU CAN SEE

00:19:44.732 --> 00:19:47.166
ALL THE NUANCES OF WHAT'S
REALLY HAPPENING.

00:19:47.266 --> 00:19:49.432
AND THROUGH THAT, GOD
ALMIGHTY WILL BRING YOU

00:19:49.532 --> 00:19:50.566
TO THE OTHER SIDE.


00:19:50.666 --> 00:19:51.733
AND THERE'S
MANY PEOPLE AND MANY

00:19:51.833 --> 00:19:53.533
CALLINGS AND MANY
ANOINTINGS AND MANY

00:19:53.633 --> 00:19:55.899
PLATFORMS THAT NEED A
TRUE PROPHETIC VOICE

00:19:55.999 --> 00:19:57.366
TO HELP THEM


00:19:57.466 --> 00:19:59.966
USHER IN THE PRESENCE OF
GOD OVER THE VALLEY

00:20:00.066 --> 00:20:01.199
TO THE OTHER SIDE.


00:20:01.299 --> 00:20:02.366
AND WHEN THAT
BEGINS TO HAPPEN,

00:20:02.466 --> 00:20:04.933
GOD WILL SAY I WILL DO A
GREATER WORK WITH YOU THAN

00:20:05.033 --> 00:20:06.200
I DID IN THE BEGINNING.


00:20:06.300 --> 00:20:07.599
THE LATTER HOUSE WILL BE
GREATER THAN

00:20:07.699 --> 00:20:08.900
THE FORMER HOUSE.


00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:10.499
AND WHAT BEGINS TO
HAPPEN IS THESE TRIALS

00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:13.866
AND TRIBULATIONS COME TO
DESTROY AND PROPHETS COME

00:20:13.966 --> 00:20:16.499
ALONGSIDE TO NOT
ONLY HELP AND EQUIP,

00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:17.833
BUT THEY ENCOURAGE
UNTIL YOU GET

00:20:17.933 --> 00:20:19.366
TO THE PLACE OF DESTINATION.


00:20:19.466 --> 00:20:21.132
AND THAT'S WHAT GOD
CALLED ME TO DO.

00:20:21.232 --> 00:20:23.300
AND I KNOW THAT I STAND WITH
PEOPLE AND I'M CALLED TO

00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:24.566
DO IT REGARDLESS OF


00:20:24.666 --> 00:20:25.866
WHAT POPULAR OPINION IS.


00:20:25.966 --> 00:20:27.600
REGARDLESS WHAT
PEOPLE THINK OR SAY.

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THE BOTTOM
LINE IS WHEN

00:20:28.766 --> 00:20:30.066
GOD SPEAKS SOMETHING,


00:20:30.166 --> 00:20:31.133
YOU STAND WITH IT


00:20:31.233 --> 00:20:32.066
BECAUSE GOD HAS CALLED IT.


00:20:32.166 --> 00:20:33.333
AND SO THAT'S WHAT
I HAD TO LEARN

00:20:33.433 --> 00:20:34.833
THROUGH THESE TRIALS
AND TRIBULATIONS.

00:20:34.933 --> 00:20:38.233
I HAD EPIC AMOUNTS OF
PERSECUTION.

00:20:38.333 --> 00:20:39.499
THINGS THAT WERE JUST


00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.166
IT CAME UP AND THEN IT WAS
STRUCK DOWN AS NOTHING

00:20:42.266 --> 00:20:44.533
AND SHOCKING TO A LEVEL
THAT WAS SHOCKING.

00:20:44.633 --> 00:20:45.999
THINGS THAT I JUST,


00:20:46.099 --> 00:20:47.766
I GOT TASTES OF THINGS,
THINGS THAT THE LORD

00:20:47.866 --> 00:20:50.199
SHOWED ME ABOUT AND
PAIN AND HOW TO, HOW TO

00:20:50.299 --> 00:20:51.933
BEAR PAIN IN
THE PROPHETIC,

00:20:52.033 --> 00:20:53.132
HOW TO SEE LEADERS BEAR


00:20:53.232 --> 00:20:55.200
PAIN AND SEE THEM GO TO
WHERE THEY'RE CALLED TO BE.

00:20:55.300 --> 00:20:57.466
BECAUSE THE LORD GOD
ALMIGHTY WANTS US TO STAND

00:20:57.566 --> 00:20:59.899
UP UNDER ADVERSITY AND THE
DEVIL WANTS TO COME

00:20:59.999 --> 00:21:01.966
AND STEAL, KILL,
AND DESTROY.

00:21:02.066 --> 00:21:04.033
AND PEOPLE SOMETIMES THEY
PARTNER WITH THE DEVIL.

00:21:04.133 --> 00:21:05.566
I FOUND THIS TO
BE THE THING.

00:21:05.666 --> 00:21:07.899
SOMETIMES, WELL, I'LL
SAY IT THIS WAY.

00:21:07.999 --> 00:21:09.599
THE EARLY CHURCH, THE
DEVIL COULDN'T BEAT

00:21:09.699 --> 00:21:10.700
THE EARLY CHURCH.


00:21:10.800 --> 00:21:12.166
SO HE DID THE
NEXT BEST THING.

00:21:12.266 --> 00:21:13.399
HE JOINED IT.


00:21:13.499 --> 00:21:15.333
HE JOINED IT WITH
PEOPLE'S OPINION.

00:21:15.433 --> 00:21:17.033
HE JOINED IT THROUGH THE
WAY PEOPLE CONVERSED

00:21:17.133 --> 00:21:18.133
ALL THAT STUFF.


00:21:18.233 --> 00:21:19.833
AND HE GOT THROUGH
PEOPLE THAT ARE

00:21:19.933 --> 00:21:21.199
WEAK IN HEART,
WEAK IN MIND.

00:21:21.299 --> 00:21:22.533
AND THEY WALK THAT PATHWAY.


00:21:22.633 --> 00:21:23.133
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:21:23.233 --> 00:21:24.166
JOSEPH Z: PROPHETS.


00:21:24.266 --> 00:21:25.132
REBECCA: AND WE TALK
ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME.

00:21:25.232 --> 00:21:25.866
JOSEPH Z: PROPHETS
BRING ORDER TO THAT.

00:21:25.966 --> 00:21:26.732
REBECCA: ME AND MY HUSBAND.


00:21:26.832 --> 00:21:28.066
JOSEPH Z: THEY BRING
ORDER TO IT.

00:21:28.166 --> 00:21:30.399
AND I HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL
THAT TO BEGIN TO DISCOVER THIS.

00:21:30.499 --> 00:21:33.399
SO I'LL TELL YOU, IT WAS
A VERY HARD ROAD.

00:21:33.499 --> 00:21:36.566
SOMETHING THAT I
WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR.

00:21:36.666 --> 00:21:37.800
BUT EVER SINCE I
WAS NINE YEARS OLD,

00:21:37.900 --> 00:21:39.199
WHEN HE CALLED ME AUDIBLY,


00:21:39.299 --> 00:21:40.632
THEN TO THE POINT
WHEN I WAS 20.

00:21:40.732 --> 00:21:41.766
AND THE SPIRIT OF


00:21:41.866 --> 00:21:42.866
GOD CALLED ME OUT AT THAT
MEETING WITH, YOU KNOW,

00:21:42.966 --> 00:21:44.466
DEMONS COMING OUT,
STUFF'S GOING WILD.

00:21:44.566 --> 00:21:45.632
AND THEN I WENT


00:21:45.732 --> 00:21:48.399
ON THIS 15 TO 20 YEAR
JOURNEY TRAVELING, CARRYING

00:21:48.499 --> 00:21:51.200
PROPHETS BAGS, SERVING,
STANDING IN MEETINGS.

00:21:51.300 --> 00:21:52.500
YOU KNOW, TRAVELING
THE WORLD

00:21:52.600 --> 00:21:55.899
AND IT WAS A REALLY
INTENSE TIME.

00:21:55.999 --> 00:21:58.833
BUT I LEARNED, LIKE I SAID
EARLIER, WHAT NOT TO DO.

00:21:58.933 --> 00:22:00.400
AND WHAT NOT TO DO IS
MORE IMPORTANT

00:22:00.500 --> 00:22:02.433
SOMETIMES THAN
KNOWING WHAT TO DO.

00:22:02.533 --> 00:22:03.399
AND WHAT YOU DON'T DO IS


00:22:03.499 --> 00:22:04.933
YOU DON'T PARTNER
WITH DARKNESS.

00:22:05.033 --> 00:22:06.199
YOU DON'T FALL
INTO UNBELIEF.

00:22:06.299 --> 00:22:07.166
YOU DON'T ATTACK.


00:22:07.266 --> 00:22:07.899
YOU DON'T DO ALL
THESE THINGS.

00:22:07.999 --> 00:22:08.966
YOU STAND ON THE WORD


00:22:09.066 --> 00:22:11.700
OF GOD, BECAUSE JESUS
IS HEAD OF THE CHURCH.

00:22:11.800 --> 00:22:13.632
AND WHEN YOU DO THAT AS
A PROPHETIC VOICE,

00:22:13.732 --> 00:22:15.933
HE CAN EMPOWER YOU AND
HE CAN TRUST YOU TO BE

00:22:16.033 --> 00:22:17.766
A STEWARD OF HIS WORD.


00:22:17.866 --> 00:22:19.199
A COURIER AND
CARRIER OF HIS

00:22:19.299 --> 00:22:22.366
PRESENCE TO HELP PEOPLE GET
WHERE THEY'RE CALLED TO BE.

00:22:22.466 --> 00:22:23.899
AND A LOT OF PROPHETIC
PEOPLE TODAY TO

00:22:23.999 --> 00:22:25.066
YOUR POINT EARLIER,
IT'S SO GOOD

00:22:25.166 --> 00:22:27.366
WHAT YOU WERE SAYING,
IS MANY PEOPLE TODAY

00:22:27.466 --> 00:22:30.466
THEY HAVE A VOICE THROUGH,
THROUGH ALL KINDS OF, YOU

00:22:30.566 --> 00:22:32.599
KNOW, PLATFORMS, MEDIUMS
WHATEVER AND THEY SAY ALL

00:22:32.699 --> 00:22:35.866
KINDS OF STUFF AND IT'S
ALMOST A SENSATIONALISM

00:22:35.966 --> 00:22:39.266
THAT TODAY IS ABSOLUTELY
ANTI-CHRIST IN NATURE.

00:22:39.366 --> 00:22:41.200
BECAUSE NOW WE
HAVE SO MUCH NOISE,

00:22:41.300 --> 00:22:43.833
THE PURITY OF WHAT THE
LORD IS REALLY SAYING CAN

00:22:43.933 --> 00:22:47.233
GET CAUGHT UP IN THE
WATERFALL AND RAGING NOISE

00:22:47.333 --> 00:22:48.499
OF THE MASSES.


00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:50.966
AND THIS IS THE TIME WHERE
WE'VE GOT TO PUT OUR EAR

00:22:51.066 --> 00:22:52.200
TO THE SPIRIT OF GOD.


00:22:52.300 --> 00:22:53.799
WE'VE GOT TO QUIET
OURSELVES AND BEGIN TO

00:22:53.899 --> 00:22:56.199
HEAR WHAT THE LORD IS
REALLY SAYING TO THE CHURCH.

00:22:56.299 --> 00:22:57.166
WHEN YOU READ REVELATION


00:22:57.266 --> 00:22:58.366
CHAPTER ONE, TWO AND THREE,


00:22:58.466 --> 00:22:59.666
AND YOU SEE THE
SEVEN CHURCHES,

00:22:59.766 --> 00:23:01.800
JESUS IS STILL SPEAKING.


00:23:01.900 --> 00:23:02.866
HE'S STILL SPEAKING


00:23:02.966 --> 00:23:03.933
JUST LIKE THAT.


00:23:04.033 --> 00:23:05.766
AND PROPHETS BRING THAT,


00:23:05.866 --> 00:23:06.733
BUT I'LL TELL YOU,


00:23:06.833 --> 00:23:08.132
I'VE HAD A LOT OF
THINGS START HAPPENING.

00:23:08.232 --> 00:23:10.200
ONCE THE LORD BEGIN TO
TRUST ME IN THIS AREA,

00:23:10.300 --> 00:23:11.366
HE ALLOWED ME TO
RELEASE DREAMS

00:23:11.466 --> 00:23:12.333
I WOULD SEE.


00:23:12.433 --> 00:23:13.233
SO I WOULD SEE DREAMS


00:23:13.333 --> 00:23:14.700
BEFORE THINGS WOULD
HAPPEN, YOU KNOW,

00:23:14.800 --> 00:23:16.600
I'D SEE AN ISLAND
EXPLODING FOR EXAMPLE

00:23:16.700 --> 00:23:18.666
AND THEN GO LIVE ON
THE BROADCAST.

00:23:18.766 --> 00:23:19.232
AND SAY MY GOODNESS,


00:23:19.332 --> 00:23:20.066
I SEE THIS ISLAND


00:23:20.166 --> 00:23:21.499
EXPLODING, SOMETHING'S
HAPPENING.

00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.533
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BOMBED
OR IF IT WAS VOLCANIC.

00:23:23.633 --> 00:23:25.300
AND THEN I REMEMBER TWO
DAYS LATER,

00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.300
THE TONGA VOLCANO EXPLODED
OR I WOULD SEE THE TRUCKER

00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:31.399
UPRISING THAT
HAPPENED IN CANADA.

00:23:31.499 --> 00:23:33.233
AND I PROPHESIED THAT
BEFORE IT HAPPENED.

00:23:33.333 --> 00:23:36.233
WE PROPHESIED ROE V. WADE
WOULD BE OVERTURNED IN 2020.

00:23:36.333 --> 00:23:37.933
WE PROPHESIED THAT
BECAUSE THE SPIRIT OF

00:23:38.033 --> 00:23:39.133
THE LORD SHOWED
IT TO US.

00:23:39.233 --> 00:23:40.466
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN,

00:23:40.566 --> 00:23:41.733
I KEEP SEEING THESE THINGS


00:23:41.833 --> 00:23:43.499
AND THE LORD SENDS ME
ON ASSIGNMENTS.

00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:46.099
BUT I BELIEVE ALL OF THAT
IS ONLY DISCOVERED WHEN

00:23:46.199 --> 00:23:49.066
YOU CONTINUE WHAT GOD'S
CALLED YOU TO DO AND GOD'S

00:23:49.166 --> 00:23:51.800
NOT IN A HURRY AND PEOPLE
SAY, LORD, USE MY LIFE.

00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:52.899
CAN I PROPHESY?


00:23:52.999 --> 00:23:54.066
CAN I STEP IN ALL
THESE THINGS?

00:23:54.166 --> 00:23:55.900
USE ME, USE ME, USE ME,
AND ALL THE LORD

00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.000
IS SAYING TO YOU IS SURE.


00:23:58.100 --> 00:23:59.299
JUST GET USABLE.


00:23:59.399 --> 00:24:00.366
GET USABLE.


00:24:00.466 --> 00:24:01.433
REBECCA: BE TRUSTWORTHY.


00:24:01.533 --> 00:24:02.699
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:04.933
IF YOU'LL SUBMIT AND COMMIT,
HE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH YOU.

00:24:05.033 --> 00:24:07.266
LESS OF YOU
MORE OF HIM.

00:24:07.366 --> 00:24:10.033
AND THAT MEANS YOU GOT TO
HEAR HIS VOICE AND NOT

00:24:10.133 --> 00:24:11.432
WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
ARE SAYING.

00:24:11.532 --> 00:24:12.066
AND I'LL TELL YOU


00:24:12.166 --> 00:24:12.700
IN THE WORLD


00:24:12.800 --> 00:24:13.933
WE'RE IN TODAY,


00:24:14.033 --> 00:24:16.533
IT'S SO EASY TO GO WITH
WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING

00:24:16.633 --> 00:24:17.433
AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.


00:24:17.533 --> 00:24:18.933
YOU NEED TO GET LOW
TO THE GROUND,

00:24:19.033 --> 00:24:20.166
GET IN THE WORD OF GOD.


00:24:20.266 --> 00:24:22.899
GET IN THE SPIRIT, PRAY
IN TONGUES FOR HOURS

00:24:22.999 --> 00:24:25.432
AND REALLY READ THAT BIBLE
UNTIL IT STARTS TALKING

00:24:25.532 --> 00:24:26.633
BACK TO YOU.


00:24:26.733 --> 00:24:29.499
YOU READ THE BIBLE UNTIL
IT STARTS TALKING BACK TO YOU

00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:31.832
AND IT WILL RIGHTSIZE
ANY PROPHETIC GIFT,

00:24:31.932 --> 00:24:32.766
ANY OF THEM.


00:24:32.866 --> 00:24:34.199
I HAVE A LOT OF
PROPHETIC PEOPLE,

00:24:34.299 --> 00:24:35.366
IF I WERE SAYING NAMES,


00:24:35.466 --> 00:24:37.266
EVERYBODY WOULD PROBABLY
KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT.

00:24:37.366 --> 00:24:39.199
BUT A LOT OF THEM REACH
OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE

00:24:39.299 --> 00:24:41.133
LOOKING FOR MENTORSHIP
RIGHT NOW.

00:24:41.233 --> 00:24:42.032
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AM


00:24:42.132 --> 00:24:43.366
I REALLY HEARING
GOD CLEARLY?

00:24:43.466 --> 00:24:44.299
AM I OKAY?


00:24:44.399 --> 00:24:45.866
AND I FIND A LOT OF
PROPHETIC PEOPLE.

00:24:45.966 --> 00:24:48.099
AND I LOVE PROPHETS SO MUCH.


00:24:48.199 --> 00:24:49.033
I FIND A LOT OF THEM ARE


00:24:49.133 --> 00:24:50.566
VERY UNSTABLE
ON THE INSIDE.

00:24:50.666 --> 00:24:51.233
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:24:51.333 --> 00:24:52.332
JOSEPH Z: VERY UNSTABLE


00:24:52.432 --> 00:24:53.733
AND HIGHLY GIFTED.


00:24:53.833 --> 00:24:55.466
I MEAN, WONDERFUL
PEOPLE THAT

00:24:55.566 --> 00:24:56.999
ARE VERY UNSTABLE
ON THE INSIDE.

00:24:57.099 --> 00:24:59.566
I'VE VISITED PEOPLE IN
MENTAL HOSPITALS THAT USED

00:24:59.666 --> 00:25:03.233
TO BE PROPHETS OR PEOPLE
THAT HEARD GOD SO MUCH

00:25:03.333 --> 00:25:04.666
THAT THEY LOST THEIR MIND.


00:25:04.766 --> 00:25:05.966
AND THE BOTTOM
LINE IS IF

00:25:06.066 --> 00:25:08.366
WE WILL DRIVE OUR SOUL AND
WE'LL DRIVE OUR EMOTIONS

00:25:08.466 --> 00:25:09.566
INTO THE WORD OF GOD,


00:25:09.666 --> 00:25:12.332
WE CAN RIGHTSIZE THIS STUFF
TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT I

00:25:12.432 --> 00:25:13.933
BELIEVE THAT
THIS IS THE HOUR

00:25:14.033 --> 00:25:15.066
WHERE THIS GENERATION IS.


00:25:15.166 --> 00:25:16.166
SO I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT


00:25:16.266 --> 00:25:18.699
THIS PODCAST BECAUSE THIS
GENERATION REALLY HAS

00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.699
A RESPONSIBILITY TO RIGHTSIZE
THESE THINGS AND I BELIEVE

00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:24.500
WE CAN SEE THE MOST POTENT
POWERFUL FORM OF PROPHECY

00:25:24.600 --> 00:25:25.600
WE'VE EVER SEEN.


00:25:25.700 --> 00:25:27.766
AND IT'LL BE CLEAR-EYED,
CLEAR-MINDED

00:25:27.866 --> 00:25:30.232
ON THE BEDROCK OF THE WORD
OF GOD AND THEN IT'LL GET

00:25:30.332 --> 00:25:32.966
RESULTS IN PEOPLE'S LIVES
INSTEAD OF THE NONSENSE.

00:25:33.066 --> 00:25:34.099
YOU KNOW, AND BY NONSENSE,


00:25:34.199 --> 00:25:36.933
I MEAN, ALL THE FLASHY
WHATEVER THAT GOES WITH IT.

00:25:37.033 --> 00:25:39.766
IT'S TIME TO JUST GET
RESULTS AND THEN BE HUMBLE

00:25:39.866 --> 00:25:42.199
AND GET ACCOUNTABILITY AND
WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS

00:25:42.299 --> 00:25:43.599
THAT BRINGS LIFE TO PEOPLE.


00:25:43.699 --> 00:25:44.699
AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I


00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.766
LEARNED IN THE JOURNEY
AND I GOT A GREAT WIFE.

00:25:46.866 --> 00:25:48.066
I GOT GREAT KIDS.


00:25:48.166 --> 00:25:50.166
YOU KNOW, MY KIDS ACTUALLY
WANT TO BE IN MINISTRY WITH ME.

00:25:50.266 --> 00:25:52.999
IT'S SHOCKING AND WE'RE
ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE

00:25:53.099 --> 00:25:55.233
THINGS TOGETHER, BECAUSE I
BELIEVE THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD

00:25:55.333 --> 00:25:57.199
HAS REALLY CALLED
US ON THIS JOURNEY.

00:25:57.299 --> 00:25:58.632
WE PAID THE PRICE.


00:25:58.732 --> 00:26:00.833
AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS
THE CALL THAT MANY PEOPLE

00:26:00.933 --> 00:26:01.866
ARE CALLED TO.


00:26:01.966 --> 00:26:03.333
SO IF YOU'RE A
PROPHET AND YOU'RE

00:26:03.433 --> 00:26:04.732
LISTENING RIGHT NOW,


00:26:04.832 --> 00:26:05.733
IF YOU'RE HERE
LISTENING TO

00:26:05.833 --> 00:26:07.200
<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST,</i>


00:26:07.300 --> 00:26:08.500
I WANT TO SAY TO YOU,
AND YOU

00:26:08.600 --> 00:26:09.900
FEEL A CALL TO
THE PROPHETIC,

00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.299
WELL, GOD WANTS YOU TO BE
CLEAR-EYED, CLEAR-MINDED.

00:26:13.399 --> 00:26:14.966
YOU CAN GET RID OF THE
GOOFY AND YOU CAN START

00:26:15.066 --> 00:26:17.000
GETTING RESULTS, BUT
IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.

00:26:17.100 --> 00:26:19.666
IT'S ABOUT JESUS AND THE MORE
THAT YOU SURRENDER TO THAT,

00:26:19.766 --> 00:26:20.733
I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S
GOING TO BE POWERFUL.

00:26:20.800 --> 00:26:22.500
REBECCA: AND YOU CAN,
YOU CAN KNOW THAT,

00:26:22.600 --> 00:26:24.066
BUT IT'S ANOTHER THING TO
ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN

00:26:24.166 --> 00:26:26.399
AND LIVE IT AND THAT
TAKES TIME AND TESTING.

00:26:26.499 --> 00:26:27.399
JOSEPH Z: IT DOES.


00:26:27.499 --> 00:26:28.700
REBECCA: AND WHEN I THINK
ABOUT YOUR JOURNEY

00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:30.533
WHERE YOU TOOK THAT
THREE YEAR BREAK

00:26:30.633 --> 00:26:32.232
BASICALLY THAT
JOURNEY OF FAITH,

00:26:32.332 --> 00:26:34.866
GOD WAS STRIPPING DOWN ALL
THOSE YEARS OF EVERYTHING

00:26:34.966 --> 00:26:36.900
YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW
AND BRINGING YOU

00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.333
TO THE BARE BONES...


00:26:38.433 --> 00:26:38.999
JOSEPH Z: IT'S SO TRUE.


00:26:39.099 --> 00:26:40.133
REBECCA: IN THAT PLACE.


00:26:40.233 --> 00:26:41.933
AND THEN WHEN THE TIME WAS,
WHEN YOU WERE READY,

00:26:42.033 --> 00:26:42.866
HE GOES, OKAY,


00:26:42.966 --> 00:26:44.700
YOU'RE READY NOW,
YOU'RE GOING TO GO.

00:26:44.800 --> 00:26:45.633
BUT YOU HAD TO TRUST


00:26:45.733 --> 00:26:47.533
GOD THAT IF YOU
GAVE EVERYTHING UP,

00:26:47.633 --> 00:26:48.733
HE COULD RESTORE IT


00:26:48.833 --> 00:26:51.100
BACK TO YOU, BUT IN
THE PROCESS YOU LEARNED

00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.066
IT'S NOT ABOUT
THE MINISTRY.

00:26:53.166 --> 00:26:53.566
IT'S ABOUT HIM.


00:26:53.666 --> 00:26:54.233
IF I HAVE HIM,


00:26:54.333 --> 00:26:55.866
I HAVE EVERYTHING I NEED.


00:26:55.966 --> 00:26:56.932
IN THE PROCESS,


00:26:57.032 --> 00:26:58.866
HE REVITALIZED AND BROUGHT
YOUR FAMILY CLOSER

00:26:58.966 --> 00:27:02.166
TOGETHER, BECAUSE IF YOU
WOULD HAVE RAN JUST HARD,

00:27:02.266 --> 00:27:03.433
YOUR FAMILY WOULD
HAVE FALLEN APART.

00:27:03.533 --> 00:27:04.599
JOSEPH Z: IT WOULD HAVE.


00:27:04.699 --> 00:27:06.366
REBECCA: AND YOUR MARRIAGE
PROBABLY TOO OR HEATHER

00:27:06.466 --> 00:27:07.732
BECAUSE SHE WAS SO SICK.


00:27:07.832 --> 00:27:09.300
JOSEPH Z: WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF
WE LIKED EACH OTHER BY THE TIME

00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:10.666
WE WERE IN THE MOUNTAINS.


00:27:10.766 --> 00:27:11.866
REBECCA: AND THAT'S A TEST.


00:27:11.966 --> 00:27:13.733
I WANT TO -- I WANT TO HAVE
HER ON AND HAVE THAT TALK

00:27:13.833 --> 00:27:15.399
BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE SUCH A
GREAT MARRIAGE.

00:27:15.499 --> 00:27:16.666
JOSEPH Z: SHE'S AWESOME.


00:27:16.766 --> 00:27:18.266
REBECCA: BUT LIKE YOU GUYS WENT
THROUGH IT AND YOU FOUGHT

00:27:18.366 --> 00:27:20.466
AND NOW YOU'RE IN A GREAT
PLACE AND SO THAT'S

00:27:20.566 --> 00:27:21.933
ANOTHER TESTIMONY
FOR ANOTHER --

00:27:22.033 --> 00:27:23.133
YOU JUST HAVE TO COME BACK


00:27:23.233 --> 00:27:24.966
ANOTHER TIME AND YOU HAVE TO
GET HEATHER BACK HERE TOO.

00:27:25.066 --> 00:27:26.000
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S SO GREAT.


00:27:26.100 --> 00:27:27.033
REBECCA: BECAUSE I
LOVE STORIES LIKE THAT,

00:27:27.133 --> 00:27:28.366
TESTIMONIES LIKE THAT.


00:27:28.466 --> 00:27:30.633
BUT I LOVE EVERYTHING
YOU SAID AND IT'S ABOUT

00:27:30.733 --> 00:27:33.299
TESTING AND IT'S GOING TO
TAKE TIME AND LIKE YOU

00:27:33.399 --> 00:27:35.499
WERE SAYING THE GIFTS OF
GOD ARE WITHOUT REPROACH.

00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:36.832
SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
ARE PROPHETIC THAT ARE

00:27:36.932 --> 00:27:39.233
HEARING GOD'S VOICE, BUT
THEY NEED THE TESTING.

00:27:39.333 --> 00:27:40.733
THEY NEED THE CHARACTER.


00:27:40.833 --> 00:27:43.100
THEY NEED THE
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:43.899
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:27:43.999 --> 00:27:44.999
REBECCA: AND THAT GROUNDS THEM.


00:27:45.099 --> 00:27:45.900
JOSEPH Z: AND REBECCA,


00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:47.433
IF THEY'LL GIVE UP,
THEY'LL GO UP.

00:27:47.533 --> 00:27:48.266
IF THEY LET GO,


00:27:48.366 --> 00:27:49.766
GOD WILL TAKE THEM
THROUGH IT.

00:27:49.866 --> 00:27:51.299
AND I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW,


00:27:51.399 --> 00:27:52.600
I SAY THIS ABOUT LIFE.


00:27:52.700 --> 00:27:56.400
SOME WILL, SOME WON'T,
SO WHAT.

00:27:56.500 --> 00:27:57.500
YOU SERVE THE LIVING GOD.


00:27:57.600 --> 00:27:59.133
YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE
TO GOD.

00:27:59.233 --> 00:28:00.066
EVERY ONE OF US WILL


00:28:00.166 --> 00:28:01.466
ANSWER TO JESUS CHRIST.


00:28:01.566 --> 00:28:03.533
WE WILL ANSWER TO THE
LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND IT

00:28:03.633 --> 00:28:05.199
DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE
SAY OVER HERE OR WHAT

00:28:05.299 --> 00:28:06.566
PEOPLE ARE SAYING
OVER THERE.

00:28:06.666 --> 00:28:09.132
YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE SERVING
GOD OR NOT AND THAT'S WHAT

00:28:09.232 --> 00:28:10.399
IT COMES DOWN TO.


00:28:10.499 --> 00:28:11.399
AND THAT'S THAT'S HOW
I LIVE

00:28:11.499 --> 00:28:12.033
MY LIFE EVERY DAY.


00:28:12.133 --> 00:28:12.899
I THINK, OKAY,


00:28:12.999 --> 00:28:14.299
I'M GOING TO STAND
BEFORE THE LORD.

00:28:14.399 --> 00:28:17.099
I WILL STAND BEFORE THE
LORD AND WHAT I BELIEVE OR

00:28:17.199 --> 00:28:19.233
WHAT I'M CONVICTED ABOUT
OR WHAT I'M WALKING THROUGH.

00:28:19.333 --> 00:28:20.433
AT THE END OF THE DAY,


00:28:20.533 --> 00:28:22.899
I ANSWER TO HIM AND WE
ALL ANSWER TO JESUS.

00:28:22.999 --> 00:28:26.132
HE IS HEAD OF THE CHURCH
AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW,

00:28:26.232 --> 00:28:29.033
THERE IS SUCH A PURITY AND
A LIFE ON THIS PODCAST.

00:28:29.133 --> 00:28:30.799
I BELIEVE THAT GOD'S
RAISING YOUR VOICE,

00:28:30.899 --> 00:28:32.333
AND ELEVATING IT LIKE
NEVER BEFORE.

00:28:32.433 --> 00:28:33.233
YOU KNOW, I WAS SO THRILLED


00:28:33.333 --> 00:28:35.466
WATCHING
YOU INTERVIEW RFK.

00:28:35.566 --> 00:28:36.066
YOU KNOW HOW COOL
THAT WAS?

00:28:36.166 --> 00:28:36.999
REBECCA: I KNOW.


00:28:37.099 --> 00:28:38.066
JOSEPH Z: I WAS LIKE
THAT'S RFK, JR.

00:28:38.166 --> 00:28:39.799
YOU'RE LIKE GO ON RFK.


00:28:39.899 --> 00:28:41.199
IT WAS WONDERFUL.


00:28:41.299 --> 00:28:43.533
AND YOU HAVE SUCH A
GRACE TO BRING OUT LIFE

00:28:43.633 --> 00:28:45.933
OUT OF PEOPLE, EXHORT
THEM AND THEN TEACH

00:28:46.033 --> 00:28:47.199
AS YOU'RE GOING.


00:28:47.299 --> 00:28:49.666
AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS
IS THE NEXT GREAT PODCAST

00:28:49.766 --> 00:28:50.532
FOR THE BODY OF CHRIST.


00:28:50.632 --> 00:28:51.299
I REALLY DO.


00:28:51.399 --> 00:28:52.566
GOD HAS
MARKED THIS THING.

00:28:52.666 --> 00:28:53.966
REBECCA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.


00:28:54.066 --> 00:28:55.733
I REALLY -- ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT YOU SAID THAT

00:28:55.833 --> 00:28:58.432
I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT
THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

00:28:58.532 --> 00:29:01.566
UM, ARTICULATED ON IS THAT
YOU CAN HEAR THE VOICE OF

00:29:01.666 --> 00:29:03.366
GOD, BUT YOU HAVE
TO HAVE HIS NATURE.

00:29:03.466 --> 00:29:04.566
JOSEPH Z: YES.


00:29:04.666 --> 00:29:06.166
REBECCA: LIKE I WAS SAYING AND
THAT COMES IN THE SECRET

00:29:06.266 --> 00:29:08.599
PLACE OF THE BURDEN WHERE
YOUR HEART ALIGNS WITH HIS

00:29:08.699 --> 00:29:11.766
HEART AND THERE'S A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN THE PROPHETIC

00:29:11.866 --> 00:29:14.000
THAT MIGHT HEAR SOMETHING,
BUT THEY DON'T SAY IT

00:29:14.100 --> 00:29:14.932
IN HIS NATURE.


00:29:15.032 --> 00:29:16.200
THEY DON'T HAVE HIS
BURDEN FOR PEOPLE,

00:29:16.300 --> 00:29:17.199
HIS LOVE FOR PEOPLE.


00:29:17.299 --> 00:29:17.966
JOSEPH Z: SO GOOD.


00:29:18.066 --> 00:29:20.233
REBECCA: THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.


00:29:20.333 --> 00:29:22.132
AND THEN THE OTHER THING
IS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO

00:29:22.232 --> 00:29:24.899
ARE WANTING TO TAKE A
SHORTCUT WHERE THEY'RE

00:29:24.999 --> 00:29:27.000
WANTING TO GET NOTORIETY --


00:29:27.100 --> 00:29:27.866
JOSEPH Z: HAVE FUN
WITH THAT.

00:29:27.966 --> 00:29:29.499
REBECCA: YOU KNOW AND
JUST GET A

00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.433
LOT OF VIEWS AND GET A LOT
OF THIS AND SOME OF THOSE

00:29:32.533 --> 00:29:33.732
PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN
PROPHETIC.

00:29:33.832 --> 00:29:35.166
SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE OFF.


00:29:35.266 --> 00:29:36.366
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:29:36.466 --> 00:29:38.766
REBECCA: UM, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT
YOU WANT TO DO BECAUSE

00:29:38.866 --> 00:29:41.333
IT'S NOT ABOUT LIKE YOU
SAID I LIVE MY LIFE

00:29:41.433 --> 00:29:42.066
THE EXACT SAME WAY.


00:29:42.166 --> 00:29:43.133
THERE'S TWO THINGS.


00:29:43.233 --> 00:29:45.766
ONE, YOU'RE YOU ARE
ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOURSELF.

00:29:45.866 --> 00:29:47.866
YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR
YOURSELF.

00:29:47.966 --> 00:29:48.999
YOU CAN TRY TO
BLAME PEOPLE.

00:29:49.099 --> 00:29:51.266
THAT'S A TACTIC OF THE
ENEMY TO BE A VICTIM.

00:29:51.366 --> 00:29:52.199
YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE.


00:29:52.299 --> 00:29:53.066
AT THE END OF THE DAY,


00:29:53.166 --> 00:29:54.232
YOU'RE STILL
RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU.

00:29:54.332 --> 00:29:55.433
NO MATTER WHAT
HAPPENS TO YOU.

00:29:55.533 --> 00:29:56.233
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S RIGHT.


00:29:56.333 --> 00:29:57.033
JOSEPH Z: RIGHT.


00:29:57.166 --> 00:29:58.166
REBECCA: GOD WILL
GRIEVE WITH YOU,

00:29:58.266 --> 00:29:59.966
YOU WALK THROUGH
FORGIVENESS.

00:30:00.066 --> 00:30:01.733
I'M NOT MINIMIZING THAT,
BUT I'M SAYING

00:30:01.833 --> 00:30:02.633
AT THE END OF THE DAY,


00:30:02.733 --> 00:30:04.432
YOU'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE
FOR YOURSELF

00:30:04.532 --> 00:30:06.366
AND WE HAVE TO STAND
BEFORE GOD.

00:30:06.466 --> 00:30:07.599
JOSEPH Z: YOU'RE SO RIGHT.


00:30:07.699 --> 00:30:09.633
REBECCA: AND WE LIVE IN A VERY
LOUD WORLD WITH THE WAY

00:30:09.733 --> 00:30:11.632
WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND
EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON

00:30:11.732 --> 00:30:13.666
AND IT'S SO IMPERATIVE
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET

00:30:13.766 --> 00:30:16.633
AWAY ALONE WITH GOD AND
HEAR GOD FOR OURSELVES.

00:30:16.733 --> 00:30:17.766
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:30:17.866 --> 00:30:18.666
REBECCA: AND THAT'S PROBABLY
ONE OF THINGS I WAS

00:30:18.766 --> 00:30:19.399
TALKING TO A FRIEND
THE OTHER DAY.

00:30:19.499 --> 00:30:20.066
I SAID ONE OF THE THINGS


00:30:20.166 --> 00:30:21.433
I REALLY WANT TO DO


00:30:21.533 --> 00:30:24.133
NOW IS TEACH PEOPLE
HOW TO HAVE THEIR OWN

00:30:24.233 --> 00:30:25.266
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.


00:30:25.366 --> 00:30:26.132
JOSEPH Z: COME ON.


00:30:26.232 --> 00:30:27.200
REBECCA: HEAR GOD
FOR THEMSELVES.

00:30:27.300 --> 00:30:28.533
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:30:28.633 --> 00:30:31.333
REBECCA: SO THEY'RE NOT ROCKED
TO AND FRO BY THE WAVES AS IT

00:30:31.433 --> 00:30:32.400
TALKS ABOUT IN EPHESIANS.


00:30:32.500 --> 00:30:33.566
LIKE IMMATURE BELIEVERS BY


00:30:33.666 --> 00:30:36.433
EVERY -- BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING
IN SUCH HEIGHTENED TIMES

00:30:36.533 --> 00:30:39.000
BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE END
OF THE END THAT WE NEED

00:30:39.100 --> 00:30:41.499
PEOPLE WHO ARE
SOLID IN HIM.

00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.933
SO THAT EVEN WHEN PEOPLE
THAT IN MINISTRY FALL OR

00:30:45.033 --> 00:30:46.566
MAKE MISTAKES OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT,

00:30:46.666 --> 00:30:47.866
IT DOESN'T ROCK US


00:30:47.966 --> 00:30:50.066
TO THE CORE BECAUSE OUR
FOUNDATION WASN'T BUILT ON

00:30:50.166 --> 00:30:52.600
THAT PERSON, OUR FOUNDATION
WAS BUILT ON JESUS.

00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:54.166
JOSEPH Z: WELL, THINK
ABOUT GALATIANS 6

00:30:54.266 --> 00:30:56.232
THAT SAYS THAT, YOU SAID
SOMETHING REALLY POWERFUL

00:30:56.332 --> 00:30:57.499
JUST A MOMENT AGO.


00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:58.966
UM, AND IT'S THIS.


00:30:59.066 --> 00:31:00.400
I'LL JUST RESPOND
WITH THIS WORD.

00:31:00.500 --> 00:31:02.066
YOU KNOW PEOPLE ACT, IT
DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE

00:31:02.166 --> 00:31:04.499
FIVEFOLD MINISTRY IN
THE BODY OF CHRIST.

00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.166
THERE'S 21 GIFTS TOTAL,
THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY.

00:31:07.266 --> 00:31:09.566
THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE
MORE, BUT ABOUT 21 TOTAL.

00:31:09.666 --> 00:31:12.499
YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU
PUT ROMANS 12 TOGETHER.

00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:13.633
YOU PUT 1 CORINTHIANS


00:31:13.733 --> 00:31:16.633
12 TOGETHER, EPHESIANS 4:11,
TOGETHER THAT'S 21.

00:31:16.733 --> 00:31:17.733
AND WHEN YOU PUT
THOSE TOGETHER,

00:31:17.833 --> 00:31:20.132
YOU BEGIN TO REALIZE THAT
THAT IS PART OF THE BODY

00:31:20.232 --> 00:31:22.599
OF CHRIST AND SOMEWHERE
YOU'RE IN THERE.

00:31:22.699 --> 00:31:23.966
YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS,
YOU'RE IN THAT GIFTING.

00:31:24.066 --> 00:31:29.133
BUT YOU ACT LIKE
THE GOD YOU SERVE.

00:31:29.233 --> 00:31:29.999
WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?


00:31:30.099 --> 00:31:31.632
YOU ACT LIKE THE GOD
YOU SERVE,

00:31:31.732 --> 00:31:34.400
WELL, YOUR PERCEPTION OR YOUR
TEACHING OR YOUR TRAINING,

00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:36.399
THE LENS BY WHICH YOU VIEW


00:31:36.499 --> 00:31:39.566
GOD IS HOW YOU WILL ACT
TOWARDS OTHERS,

00:31:39.666 --> 00:31:41.699
TOWARDS YOURSELF, TOWARDS
DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:43.466
AND MATTHEW 25, THE PARABLE


00:31:43.566 --> 00:31:44.566
OF THE TALENTS, RIGHT?


00:31:44.666 --> 00:31:47.766
THE GUY SAYS WHO ONLY HAD
ONE, SAID TO THE MASTER,

00:31:47.866 --> 00:31:50.499
HE SAID I KNEW YOU TO
BE A HARD DIFFICULT MAN.

00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.666
I KNEW THIS ABOUT YOU, REAPING
WHERE YOU HAD NOT SOWN.

00:31:53.766 --> 00:31:55.366
SO I HID WHAT YOU GAVE ME.


00:31:55.466 --> 00:31:57.166
I KNEW YOU AND THE
MASTER SAYS TO HIM,

00:31:57.266 --> 00:31:59.433
HE SAYS, YOU KNEW
ME TO BE THIS WAY.

00:31:59.533 --> 00:32:02.166
SO, THAT'S HOW
YOU PERCEIVE ME, OKAY.

00:32:02.266 --> 00:32:04.499
TAKE WHAT HE HAS AND GIVE
IT TO THE ONE WITH TEN.

00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:05.932
NOW THAT SOUNDS WILD.


00:32:06.032 --> 00:32:07.532
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE
IS HOW WE PERCEIVE

00:32:07.632 --> 00:32:08.599
GOD IS NUMBER ONE


00:32:08.699 --> 00:32:10.066
HOW WE WILL
RECEIVE FROM HIM

00:32:10.166 --> 00:32:11.933
AND HOW WE WILL
TREAT OTHERS.

00:32:12.033 --> 00:32:15.500
AND IF WE THINK GOD IS
HARSH AND EVIL AND WANTING

00:32:15.600 --> 00:32:19.099
TO STEP ON US AND JUST BREAK
EVERYBODY TO SMITHEREENS,

00:32:19.199 --> 00:32:20.266
THAT IS HOW WE'RE
GOING TO TREAT

00:32:20.366 --> 00:32:21.766
OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.


00:32:21.866 --> 00:32:24.433
BUT WHEN YOU REALIZE
GOD IS MERCIFUL, FULL OF

00:32:24.533 --> 00:32:28.333
COMPASSION, SLOW TO ANGER,
ABOUNDING IN MERCY.

00:32:28.433 --> 00:32:31.799
WHEN YOU MOVE THAT WAY, YOU
WILL ACT LIKE THE GOD YOU

00:32:31.899 --> 00:32:33.533
SERVE AND THEN YOU'LL
START TO GET THOSE KIND OF

00:32:33.633 --> 00:32:34.433
RESULTS IN YOUR LIFE.


00:32:34.533 --> 00:32:36.733
BECAUSE THE MECHANISM OF


00:32:36.833 --> 00:32:39.066
FREE MORAL AGENCY, HUMANITY,


00:32:39.166 --> 00:32:40.333
THE WAY THAT WE ARE WIRED


00:32:40.433 --> 00:32:42.699
IS IF WE BELIEVE A
CERTAIN THING THAT IS

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:43.566
HOW WE WILL ACCESS


00:32:43.666 --> 00:32:45.099
THE REALM OF THE UNSEEN.


00:32:45.199 --> 00:32:48.133
GOD IS ONLY LIMITED BY HIS
WORD AND HE IS LIMITED BY

00:32:48.233 --> 00:32:50.766
THAT IN THE BELIEF
OF A PERSON.

00:32:50.866 --> 00:32:51.966
SO IF THEY BELIEVE,
MY GOODNESS,

00:32:52.066 --> 00:32:54.433
THIS IS HOW GOD IS
AND THEY'RE SAYING,

00:32:54.533 --> 00:32:57.366
I'M -- I'M RECEIVING FROM
HIM A CERTAIN WAY AND GOD'S

00:32:57.466 --> 00:32:58.999
GOING TO GET THIS
PERSON OVER HERE.

00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:01.533
THE DEVIL WILL LEVERAGE
THAT OR YOUR OWN SOUL WILL

00:33:01.633 --> 00:33:04.200
BE BROKEN AND IT'LL
BE USED FOR EVIL.

00:33:04.300 --> 00:33:06.399
BUT WHEN YOU KNOW THE
LORD GOD ALMIGHTY,

00:33:06.499 --> 00:33:09.266
AND YOU KNOW HIS REAL CHARACTER,
THE TRUE NATURE OF GOD,

00:33:09.366 --> 00:33:12.100
HE IS A GOOD GOD AND
HE'LL WORK THROUGH YOU TO

00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.366
RESTORE, BRING CLARITY,
BUT GOD'S --

00:33:15.466 --> 00:33:16.033
GOD'S END FOR


00:33:16.133 --> 00:33:18.099
EVERYTHING IS REDEMPTION.


00:33:18.199 --> 00:33:20.166
IT'S NEVER TO
BRING DESTRUCTION.

00:33:20.266 --> 00:33:21.500
THAT'S THE DEVIL'S JOB.


00:33:21.600 --> 00:33:24.566
REBECCA: NO, HE IS A GOD
OF RECONCILIATION,

00:33:24.666 --> 00:33:26.500
HE'S A GOD OF REDEMPTION
AND THANK GOD,

00:33:26.600 --> 00:33:30.133
BECAUSE WE, EVERY PERSON
NEEDS THAT AND THE THING IS

00:33:30.233 --> 00:33:32.566
IS WE HAVE TO HAVE HIS
HEART AND WE HAVE TO KNOW

00:33:32.666 --> 00:33:35.966
WHO HE IS AND THE ONLY WAY
THAT YOU CAN KNOW WHO HE

00:33:36.066 --> 00:33:38.332
IS BY SPENDING TIME
WITH HIM IN THE SECRET PLACE.

00:33:38.432 --> 00:33:39.633
JOSEPH Z: SO TRUE.


00:33:39.733 --> 00:33:41.900
REBECCA: AND ALLOWING HIM TO
IF THERE'S BROKENNESS I THINK

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:43.800
THE PEOPLE WHO DO SOME OF
THE MOST DAMAGE TO THE

00:33:43.900 --> 00:33:46.033
BODY OF CHRIST ARE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE BEEN BROKEN

00:33:46.133 --> 00:33:47.299
AND THEY HAVEN'T
RECEIVED HEALING.

00:33:47.399 --> 00:33:48.500
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:33:48.600 --> 00:33:50.299
REBECCA: AND THAT'S NOT HATING
ON THOSE PEOPLE AT ALL

00:33:50.399 --> 00:33:54.499
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT OKAY,
BUT WE ALL GET HURT AND WE

00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:55.566
ALL NEED HEALING.


00:33:55.666 --> 00:33:56.832
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:33:56.932 --> 00:33:59.566
REBECCA: BUT UNTIL THE ENEMY
CAN LEVERAGE THOSE PARTS OF

00:33:59.666 --> 00:34:01.266
THE SOUL AND USE
IT AGAINST YOU.

00:34:01.366 --> 00:34:02.399
JOSEPH Z: YES.


00:34:02.499 --> 00:34:04.266
REBECCA: THE PARTS OF
WOUNDING AND SO THAT IS SO

00:34:04.366 --> 00:34:07.666
IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET
HEALING IN OUR OWN HEARTS

00:34:07.766 --> 00:34:09.366
AND THAT WE KNOW WHO HE IS.


00:34:09.466 --> 00:34:10.299
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:34:10.399 --> 00:34:12.732
REBECCA: BECAUSE HE IS
A GOOD FATHER

00:34:12.832 --> 00:34:17.599
WHO LOVES PEOPLE, WHO LOVES
PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT GOOD --

00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:18.833
WHO ARE NOT GOOD TO US AT TIMES,
YOU KNOW.

00:34:18.933 --> 00:34:20.099
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:22.233
REBECCA: AND THE ONLY WAY THAT
I CAN LOVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

00:34:22.333 --> 00:34:24.266
WRONGED ME AND
FORGIVE PEOPLE

00:34:24.366 --> 00:34:25.166
AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN
THAT YOU

00:34:25.266 --> 00:34:26.399
DON'T HOLD BOUNDARIES
WITH PEOPLE.

00:34:26.499 --> 00:34:27.600
JOSEPH Z: ABSOLUTELY.


00:34:27.700 --> 00:34:29.433
REBECCA: BUT THE ONLY WAY I'VE
BEEN ABLE TO LOVE PEOPLE

00:34:29.533 --> 00:34:31.200
LIKE THAT IS BY
SPENDING TIME WITH HIM.

00:34:31.300 --> 00:34:32.133
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S IT.


00:34:32.233 --> 00:34:33.499
REBECCA: AND WHEN
I'M IN HIS PRESENCE,

00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:35.033
BECAUSE HE IS THE FORGIVER.


00:34:35.133 --> 00:34:37.366
HE'S THE ULTIMATE
FORGIVER, RIGHT?

00:34:37.466 --> 00:34:39.366
IT'S EASIER TO FORGIVE AND
RELEASE PEOPLE AND IT'S

00:34:39.432 --> 00:34:42.399
NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO GET DEALT WITH,

00:34:42.499 --> 00:34:43.933
IT'S SAYING THAT GOD'S
GOING TO DEAL WITH IT.

00:34:44.033 --> 00:34:44.966
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:34:45.066 --> 00:34:47.566
REBECCA: BUT HIS JUSTICE
IS LOOKS DIFFERENT

00:34:47.666 --> 00:34:49.266
SOMETIMES THAN OUR VIEW.


00:34:49.366 --> 00:34:50.066
JOSEPH Z: BOY IT DOES.


00:34:50.166 --> 00:34:51.066
REBECCA: OF JUSTICE.


00:34:51.166 --> 00:34:52.266
JOSEPH Z: COME ON, REBECCA.


00:34:52.366 --> 00:34:53.699
REBECCA: BUT THANK GOD WE
DIDN'T GET WHAT WE DESERVED.

00:34:53.799 --> 00:34:55.732
BECAUSE IF WE GOT
WHAT WE DESERVED,

00:34:55.832 --> 00:34:58.132
THAT'S WHY I THINK JESUS
TELLS THAT PARABLE ABOUT,

00:34:58.232 --> 00:35:01.666
YOU KNOW, THE GUY WHO GETS
FORGIVEN OF THIS MASSIVE DEBT.

00:35:01.766 --> 00:35:04.599
AND THEN HE WANTS TO HOLD
THIS OTHER PERSON PRISON

00:35:04.699 --> 00:35:06.166
FOR A MUCH SMALLER DEBT.


00:35:06.266 --> 00:35:09.566
HE'S SAYING I HAVE FORGIVEN
YOU OF SO MUCH MORE,

00:35:09.666 --> 00:35:10.833
SO FORGIVE OTHERS.


00:35:10.933 --> 00:35:11.766
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S IT.


00:35:11.866 --> 00:35:12.899
SO POWERFUL.


00:35:12.999 --> 00:35:13.933
REBECCA: IT'S THE ONLY WAY
YOU CAN BE FREE, TOO.

00:35:14.033 --> 00:35:15.333
YOU'LL NEVER BE FREE.


00:35:15.433 --> 00:35:16.466
YOU'LL NEVER --


00:35:16.566 --> 00:35:17.932
IT'S LIKE DON'T LET PEOPLE
WHO HURT YOU, ROB YOU

00:35:18.032 --> 00:35:19.233
OF YOUR LIFE


00:35:19.333 --> 00:35:20.599
THAT GOD HAS
GIVEN YOU.

00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:21.600
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:35:21.700 --> 00:35:22.432
REBECCA: BECAUSE OF HOW THEY
WRONGED YOU,

00:35:22.532 --> 00:35:24.966
FREE YOURSELF SO THAT
YOU CAN GO

00:35:25.066 --> 00:35:26.033
AND FREE OTHER PEOPLE.


00:35:26.133 --> 00:35:29.100
DON'T LIVE IN BONDAGE OF
UNFORGIVENESS.

00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:30.366
JOSEPH Z: I'M LOOKING
AT YOU RIGHT NOW,

00:35:30.466 --> 00:35:33.166
I SEE YOU STANDING IN
FRONT OF VERY LARGE CROWDS

00:35:33.266 --> 00:35:36.500
OF PEOPLE SPEAKING TO THEM
AND MOVING THE AUDIENCE.

00:35:36.600 --> 00:35:37.699
I'M LOOKING AT
IT RIGHT NOW.

00:35:37.799 --> 00:35:38.800
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:39.866
JOSEPH Z: I'M LOOKING AT
GOD WORKING THROUGH YOU

00:35:39.966 --> 00:35:40.866
AND MOVING PEOPLE.


00:35:40.966 --> 00:35:43.333
I'M WATCHING EMOTIONAL
DELIVERANCE HAPPEN

00:35:43.433 --> 00:35:44.400
ON A MASS SCALE.


00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:45.266
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:35:45.366 --> 00:35:45.899
JOSEPH Z: I'M WATCHING
YOU ANSWER

00:35:45.999 --> 00:35:47.033
THE FIGHT INSIDE.


00:35:47.133 --> 00:35:50.699
YOUR VOICE WILL ANSWER THE
FIGHT INSIDE FOR PEOPLE.

00:35:50.799 --> 00:35:52.766
I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S GOING TO
COME THROUGH THIS PODCAST.

00:35:52.866 --> 00:35:55.132
IT'S GOING TO COME
ON A MASSIVE SCALE.

00:35:55.232 --> 00:35:57.966
I SEE IT OVER
THE NEXT 1, 2, 3,

00:35:58.066 --> 00:35:59.133
I SEE A THREE-YEAR WINDOW.


00:35:59.233 --> 00:36:01.266
AND THEN I SEE A FOURTH
YEAR WHERE IT REALLY BEGINS.

00:36:01.366 --> 00:36:02.232
I SEE THE SPIRIT OF GOD


00:36:02.332 --> 00:36:03.733
BEGINNING TO OPEN
THIS UP TO YOU.

00:36:03.833 --> 00:36:06.933
REBECCA, YOU'RE ANOINTED AND
YOU HAVE A BALM OF GILEAD

00:36:07.033 --> 00:36:08.866
ANOINTING ON YOUR
VOICE AND PEOPLE ARE

00:36:08.966 --> 00:36:10.066
GOING TO GET DELIVERED.


00:36:10.166 --> 00:36:11.666
THEY'RE GOING TO GET
HEALED MENTALLY AND

00:36:11.766 --> 00:36:13.766
EMOTIONALLY AND GOD'S
GOING TO WORK THROUGH IT.

00:36:13.866 --> 00:36:16.333
AND THEN BOOKS WILL COME
AND IT'S REALLY POWERFUL.

00:36:16.433 --> 00:36:18.166
I JUST I WANT TO SHARE
THAT I'M LOOKING AT YOU

00:36:18.266 --> 00:36:19.199
AND IT'S AWESOME.


00:36:19.299 --> 00:36:20.666
YOU'RE KIND OF -- YOU
KIND OF GOT THIS VOICE

00:36:20.766 --> 00:36:21.666
TO A GENERATION.


00:36:21.766 --> 00:36:22.266
REBECCA: OH, THANK YOU.


00:36:22.366 --> 00:36:22.966
JOSEPH Z: IT'S POWERFUL.


00:36:23.066 --> 00:36:23.733
REBECCA: I RECEIVE THAT.


00:36:23.833 --> 00:36:24.699
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S THE THING


00:36:24.799 --> 00:36:26.233
YOUR AUDIENCE,
WHEN THEY LISTEN TO THIS,

00:36:26.333 --> 00:36:28.000
THEIR SOUL IS GOING
TO GET WATERED,

00:36:28.100 --> 00:36:29.499
THEIR MIND IS GOING TO
GET SET FREE

00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:30.599
AND I BELIEVE GOD'S
JUST GOING

00:36:30.699 --> 00:36:32.499
TO OPEN UP THE DOUBLE
DOORS ON THIS ANOINTING

00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:33.800
THAT YOU'RE CARRYING.


00:36:33.900 --> 00:36:35.800
GOD IS SAYING THERE'S
COMING A RETROFIT,

00:36:35.900 --> 00:36:38.966
A STRENGTH TO YOU, A
STRENGTH TO THIS PLATFORM,

00:36:39.066 --> 00:36:41.366
A STRENGTH TO WHAT GOD'S
DOING AND THIS IS THE DAY

00:36:41.466 --> 00:36:42.666
OF NEW BEGINNINGS.


00:36:42.766 --> 00:36:44.533
I BELIEVE THAT WHEN
WE GET TO 2028,

00:36:44.633 --> 00:36:46.199
EVEN FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S
GOING TO BE THE YEAR OF

00:36:46.299 --> 00:36:49.466
NEW BEGINNINGS AND
THERE'S A PROCESS,

00:36:49.566 --> 00:36:51.199
THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS.


00:36:51.299 --> 00:36:53.066
AND IT'S A SIFTING,
IT'S A STRENGTHENING.

00:36:53.166 --> 00:36:54.632
THERE'S SO MUCH
THAT'S HAPPENING,

00:36:54.732 --> 00:36:56.766
BUT GOD'S HAND OF FAVOR
IS ON YOUR LIFE.

00:36:56.866 --> 00:36:57.832
AND, YOU KNOW,


00:36:57.932 --> 00:36:59.066
I'M THINKING ABOUT THE
PROPHETIC PEOPLE THAT

00:36:59.166 --> 00:37:02.200
WATCH THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE
GOING TO BE A PROPHETIC MAGNET.

00:37:02.300 --> 00:37:03.366
YOU'RE GOING TO DRAW THEM.


00:37:03.466 --> 00:37:04.333
THEY'RE GOING TO WATCH YOU.


00:37:04.433 --> 00:37:05.966
THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO
LEARN THINGS.

00:37:06.066 --> 00:37:07.100
THEY'RE GOING
TO GET GREAT INTERVIEWS.

00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:08.000
THEY'RE GOING
TO HEAR THINGS,

00:37:08.100 --> 00:37:09.533
BUT THE PROPHETS ARE
GOING TO LISTEN.

00:37:09.633 --> 00:37:10.866
PEOPLE THAT HAVE
AN UNCTION

00:37:10.966 --> 00:37:13.166
TO HEAR GOD ARE
GOING TO LISTEN TO THIS.

00:37:13.266 --> 00:37:14.133
AND THEY'RE GOING
TO HEAR THINGS

00:37:14.233 --> 00:37:15.433
THAT ARE NOT EVEN SAID.


00:37:15.533 --> 00:37:16.333
BECAUSE THE SPIRIT OF GOD


00:37:16.433 --> 00:37:18.032
IS GOING TO SPEAK
TO THEM BEYOND

00:37:18.132 --> 00:37:20.100
WHAT IS SPOKEN ON
THIS PODCAST.

00:37:20.200 --> 00:37:21.133
AND PEOPLE ARE


00:37:21.233 --> 00:37:22.333
GOING TO BE TOUCHED
MIGHTILY AND THIS IS A

00:37:22.433 --> 00:37:23.799
WORD FOR SO MANY
PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.

00:37:23.899 --> 00:37:24.433
YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE.


00:37:24.533 --> 00:37:25.233
WE'RE TALKING.


00:37:25.333 --> 00:37:26.366
IT'S WONDERFUL.


00:37:26.466 --> 00:37:28.566
I ALWAYS FEEL THE PRESENCE
OF GOD AND I FEEL JOY

00:37:28.666 --> 00:37:29.199
WHEN I'M WITH YOU.


00:37:29.299 --> 00:37:30.166
REBECCA: OH.


00:37:30.266 --> 00:37:31.899
JOSEPH Z: YOU CARRY
JOY LIKE A WEAPON.

00:37:31.999 --> 00:37:33.733
YOU REALLY CARRY JOY
LIKE A WEAPON, REBECCA.

00:37:33.833 --> 00:37:36.000
AND SO IT'S POWERFUL,
BUT LISTEN,

00:37:36.100 --> 00:37:37.833
GOD IS -- HE'S FINE TUNING


00:37:37.933 --> 00:37:39.766
THE BODY TO HAVE A
BETTER EAR RIGHT NOW.

00:37:39.866 --> 00:37:41.232
I BELIEVE WE'RE ABOUT
TO GO THROUGH A TIME OF

00:37:41.332 --> 00:37:44.233
ECONOMIC SHAKING LIKE
WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

00:37:44.333 --> 00:37:45.166
IT'S FAKE.


00:37:45.266 --> 00:37:46.632
IT'S A FALSE FLAG EVENT.


00:37:46.732 --> 00:37:47.766
THEY'RE TRYING TO STOP
THE GOOD THINGS

00:37:47.866 --> 00:37:49.466
GOD IS DOING IN
THIS COUNTRY.

00:37:49.566 --> 00:37:51.400
BUT I BELIEVE ON THE
HEELS OF THAT, AFTER WE GO

00:37:51.500 --> 00:37:54.200
THROUGH A VERY SERIOUS
TIME OF ECONOMIC SHAKING,

00:37:54.300 --> 00:37:55.099
I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE
GOING TO COME TO

00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.300
A TIME OF GREAT RETURN.


00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.600
THE ECONOMY, IF WE STAND,


00:37:59.700 --> 00:38:01.099
IF WE DO WHAT GOD'S
CALLED US TO DO,

00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:02.733
WE'LL COME BACK
LIKE A ROAR.

00:38:02.833 --> 00:38:04.099
BUT THERE'S GOING
TO BE A VALLEY

00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:05.599
THAT'S IN FRONT OF US
AND WE'LL GET TO

00:38:05.699 --> 00:38:06.566
THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.


00:38:06.666 --> 00:38:08.466
AND I BELIEVE YOUR VOICE
IS GOING TO BE

00:38:08.566 --> 00:38:10.366
A BEACON OF HOPE
DURING THAT TIME.

00:38:10.466 --> 00:38:11.466
YOUR VOICE IS GOING TO


00:38:11.566 --> 00:38:13.699
RAISE A TORCH AMONG
THE SHEAVES.

00:38:13.799 --> 00:38:16.866
YOUR VOICE IS GOING TO
ILLUMINATE THE DARKNESS

00:38:16.966 --> 00:38:18.300
AND GOD'S CALLED YOU
TO DO IT.

00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.233
SO ANY PROPHETIC PERSON
THAT'S LISTENING,

00:38:20.333 --> 00:38:22.032
ANY PERSON THAT'S TRYING
TO FIND THEIR WAY,

00:38:22.132 --> 00:38:23.800
THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SORT
OUT WHAT'S WHAT.

00:38:23.900 --> 00:38:25.500
I'M HERE TO TELL
YOU RIGHT NOW,

00:38:25.600 --> 00:38:27.800
GOD IS NOT THE
AUTHOR OF CONFUSION.

00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:29.699
HE'S GOING TO BRING
ORDER TO YOUR SOUL.

00:38:29.799 --> 00:38:30.900
AND IF YOU CAN CALM YOUR


00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.033
MIND ENOUGH TO JUST HEAR WHAT
THE SPIRIT IS SAYING,

00:38:33.133 --> 00:38:34.599
EVEN THROUGH THIS PODCAST,


00:38:34.699 --> 00:38:37.432
GOD'S GOING TO TOUCH THAT
DEEPER PLACE INSIDE YOU.

00:38:37.532 --> 00:38:39.366
I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT
ARE WATCHING YOUR PODCAST

00:38:39.466 --> 00:38:40.799
RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE
LISTENING TO YOU.

00:38:40.899 --> 00:38:43.799
AND IT'S LIKE THE
SHULAMMITE WOMAN,

00:38:43.899 --> 00:38:45.033
THE SHULAMMITE WOMAN.


00:38:45.133 --> 00:38:46.166
AND THEY BROUGHT IN --


00:38:46.266 --> 00:38:48.066
HOW SHE BROUGHT IN
THE PROPHET, RIGHT?

00:38:48.166 --> 00:38:49.732
AND THEN SHE WENT
THROUGH THINGS.

00:38:49.832 --> 00:38:51.600
SHE PROVIDED FOR
HIM AND THEN

00:38:51.700 --> 00:38:54.333
THE VERY THING THAT SHE
WAS SEEKING GOD FOR THIS

00:38:54.433 --> 00:38:56.233
BABY COMES TO LIFE.


00:38:56.333 --> 00:38:59.232
THE BABY LIVES, THE PROPHET
LEAVES AND THEN THE BABY

00:38:59.332 --> 00:39:01.466
DIED LATER AS A
YOUNG CHILD.

00:39:01.566 --> 00:39:02.799
DIED.


00:39:02.899 --> 00:39:05.166
BUT THE LORD GOD SENDS THE
PROPHET BACK AND GIVES

00:39:05.266 --> 00:39:06.900
BACK TO HER THE
VERY THINGS

00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.300
SHE BELIEVED HIM FOR, LOST,
AND IT CAME BACK.

00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:12.299
AND I BELIEVE GOD IS SAYING TO
MANY PEOPLE RIGHT NOW,

00:39:12.399 --> 00:39:13.933
JUST LIKE THAT SHULAMMITE WOMAN,


00:39:14.033 --> 00:39:15.666
THE VERY THING THAT'S
IN THEIR HEART,

00:39:15.766 --> 00:39:17.333
THE VERY THING THEY'VE
BEEN SEARCHING FOR,

00:39:17.433 --> 00:39:18.432
THE VERY THING


00:39:18.532 --> 00:39:21.233
THEY BELIEVED GOD FOR
ATTAINED AND EVEN LOST,

00:39:21.333 --> 00:39:23.866
THE LORD IS SAYING THE
REDEMPTIVE HOUR IS COMING.

00:39:23.966 --> 00:39:25.533
AND THAT REDEMPTIVE HOUR
IS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE

00:39:25.633 --> 00:39:27.799
EYES TO SEE, EARS TO HEAR,


00:39:27.899 --> 00:39:28.866
THEY KEEP A FENCE OUT OF


00:39:28.966 --> 00:39:30.432
THEIR HEART AND THEY
KEEP WALKING AFTER

00:39:30.532 --> 00:39:31.533
THE SPIRIT OF GOD.


00:39:31.633 --> 00:39:34.666
HE'S GOING TO GIVE THEM
EVEN THAT PRECIOUS GIFT.

00:39:34.766 --> 00:39:36.866
THE THING THEY SO WANTED
AND IT SEEMS LIKE

00:39:36.966 --> 00:39:37.999
IT WENT AWAY.


00:39:38.099 --> 00:39:40.499
IT WILL COME BACK UNTO
THEM WITH GREATER MEASURE.

00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.433
THAT'S WHAT GOD'S DOING
THROUGH THIS PODCAST.

00:39:42.533 --> 00:39:43.300
IT'S POWERFUL.


00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:43.866
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:39:43.966 --> 00:39:45.066
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:39:45.166 --> 00:39:48.133
REBECCA: WELL, I DON'T
KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY

00:39:48.233 --> 00:39:50.500
FROM FOLLOWING
THAT, IT'S SO GOOD.

00:39:50.600 --> 00:39:53.199
UM, I THINK ONE THING I
WOULD JUST SAY TO PEOPLE

00:39:53.299 --> 00:39:56.733
JUST TO ENCOURAGE THEM IS
THAT YOU'RE A PRODUCT OF

00:39:56.833 --> 00:39:59.066
SOMEONE WHO'S GONE THROUGH
THE PROCESS AND YOU DIDN'T

00:39:59.166 --> 00:40:00.266
JUST POP OUT OF NOWHERE.


00:40:00.366 --> 00:40:02.933
YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT,
BUT YOU PERSEVERED.

00:40:03.033 --> 00:40:04.133
JOSEPH Z: YES, MA'AM.


00:40:04.233 --> 00:40:05.400
REBECCA: AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE
I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW,

00:40:05.500 --> 00:40:07.866
GOD USES TRIALS


00:40:07.966 --> 00:40:09.600
FOR OUR GOOD IN THE
TERMS OF THAT.

00:40:09.700 --> 00:40:10.766
IT SAYS IN ROMANS 5


00:40:10.866 --> 00:40:12.799
THAT THAT ENDURANCE


00:40:12.899 --> 00:40:15.699
PRODUCES, UM, TRIALS
PRODUCE ENDURANCE.

00:40:15.799 --> 00:40:17.166
SO THAT'S YOU JUST
GOT TO KEEP GOING.

00:40:17.266 --> 00:40:18.233
JOSEPH Z: YOU GOT
TO KEEP GOING.

00:40:18.333 --> 00:40:19.266
REBECCA: THEN YOU'LL
LEARN HOW TO KEEP GOING

00:40:19.366 --> 00:40:22.700
MORE AND MORE, ENDURANCE
PRODUCES CHARACTER.

00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:23.566
JOSEPH Z: YES.


00:40:23.666 --> 00:40:24.633
REBECCA: CHARACTER
PRODUCES HOPE

00:40:24.733 --> 00:40:26.466
AND SALVATION AND
THAT HOPE WON'T DISAPPOINT.

00:40:26.566 --> 00:40:28.399
AND SO THEY ARE
FOR A PURPOSE.

00:40:28.499 --> 00:40:29.633
AND THEY WILL HELP US.


00:40:29.733 --> 00:40:30.832
JOSEPH Z: YES.


00:40:30.932 --> 00:40:32.966
REBECCA: AND NOT TO GIVE UP
AND THAT TRIALS ARE NOT

00:40:33.066 --> 00:40:35.366
SOMETHING WHERE IT'S
LIKE BECAUSE FOR ME,

00:40:35.466 --> 00:40:36.500
IN THE BEGINNING,


00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:37.466
I USED TO JUST
THINK TRIALS,

00:40:37.566 --> 00:40:38.633
I'M JUST LIKE HOW DO I
GET THROUGH THIS

00:40:38.733 --> 00:40:39.700
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE?


00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:40.933
JOSEPH Z: YES.


00:40:41.033 --> 00:40:43.699
REBECCA: NOW, I'VE JUST LEARNED
TO TURN TO GOD AND ALLOW

00:40:43.799 --> 00:40:45.900
BECAUSE THERE'S A INTIMACY
WITH HIM IN THE TRIALS

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:46.933
THAT'S DIFFERENT


00:40:47.033 --> 00:40:48.366
THAN NOT IN THE TRIALS.


00:40:48.466 --> 00:40:49.366
JOSEPH Z: IT'S SO TRUE.


00:40:49.466 --> 00:40:50.933
REBECCA: AND IF YOU CAN
JUST KEEP GOING

00:40:51.033 --> 00:40:52.133
AND NOT GIVE UP,


00:40:52.233 --> 00:40:54.900
HE WILL PURIFY YOU AND
READY YOU FOR WHAT HE'S

00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:55.999
CALLING YOU TO.


00:40:56.099 --> 00:40:59.500
AND I THINK IN HIS GOODNESS,
EVEN LIKE THE TRIALS

00:40:59.600 --> 00:41:01.500
THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH,
HE'S CUT OFF

00:41:01.600 --> 00:41:03.466
THINGS THAT WERE NOT GOOD.


00:41:03.566 --> 00:41:05.099
AND HE'S HELPED REFOCUS ME.


00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.399
BECAUSE I THINK LIVING
IN WESTERN CHRISTIANITY,

00:41:07.499 --> 00:41:11.033
SOMETIMES THE NEEDLE GETS
MOVED AND YOU KNOW YOUR

00:41:11.133 --> 00:41:13.999
GOALS AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE
SHIFTS A LITTLE BIT AND HE

00:41:14.099 --> 00:41:16.032
BRINGS US BACK IN
HIS MERCY TO, OKAY,

00:41:16.132 --> 00:41:17.500
THIS IS WHAT
THIS IS ABOUT.

00:41:17.600 --> 00:41:18.566
THIS IS MY KINGDOM.


00:41:18.666 --> 00:41:21.299
THIS IS WHAT MATTERS,
NOT THIS OTHER STUFF.

00:41:21.399 --> 00:41:23.400
BECAUSE IT'S SO EASY AS A
HUMAN LIVING IN THIS PHYSICAL

00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:27.100
WORLD TO GET CAUGHT UP ON
STUFF THAT AREN'T ETERNAL

00:41:27.200 --> 00:41:29.500
OR AREN'T OF THE
HIGHEST VALUE.

00:41:29.600 --> 00:41:30.666
AND HE PULLS US BACK


00:41:30.766 --> 00:41:31.666
IN HIS MERCY BACK
TO THAT PLACE.

00:41:31.766 --> 00:41:32.799
JOSEPH Z: HE DOES.


00:41:32.899 --> 00:41:34.966
REBECCA: SO IT'S A GOOD THING,
THEY'RE NECESSARY.

00:41:35.066 --> 00:41:36.132
JOSEPH Z: YEAH, THE TRIALS.


00:41:36.232 --> 00:41:38.399
REBECCA: THE CROSS WAS
NECESSARY, THAT WAS A TRIAL.

00:41:38.499 --> 00:41:40.866
AND IT WAS NECESSARY AND IT
WAS BECAUSE OF JOY,

00:41:40.966 --> 00:41:41.966
YOU TALK ABOUT JOY.


00:41:42.066 --> 00:41:43.299
THAT'S WHAT GOD IS
TEACHING ME IN THIS SEASON.

00:41:43.399 --> 00:41:46.066
JOY IS WHAT GETS YOU TO
GO THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S

00:41:46.166 --> 00:41:47.833
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS IN
HEBREWS 12.

00:41:47.933 --> 00:41:50.799
HE SAYS FOR THE JOY
SET BEFORE HIM,

00:41:50.899 --> 00:41:52.333
HE ENDURED THE CROSS.


00:41:52.433 --> 00:41:54.700
SCORNING THE SHAME, BASICALLY
FORGETTING THE SHAME.

00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:55.800
HE DIDN'T PUT
THAT ON HIMSELF.

00:41:55.900 --> 00:41:57.066
EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE WAS
PUTTING THAT ON HIM AS HE

00:41:57.166 --> 00:42:02.032
WAS ENDURING THAT AWFUL
THING AND HE DID IT

00:42:02.132 --> 00:42:04.899
SO HE COULD MAKE A WAY FOR
YOU AND ME TO BE IN THE

00:42:04.999 --> 00:42:06.033
FAMILY OF GOD FOREVER.


00:42:06.133 --> 00:42:07.233
JOSEPH Z: SO POWERFUL.


00:42:07.333 --> 00:42:09.666
REBECCA, YOU KNOW, I THINK
ABOUT THIS STATEMENT HERE,

00:42:09.766 --> 00:42:11.333
TRIALS DON'T LAST ALWAYS.


00:42:11.433 --> 00:42:12.433
THEY DON'T LAST ALWAYS.


00:42:12.533 --> 00:42:13.599
REBECCA: NO, THEY DON'T.


00:42:13.699 --> 00:42:15.166
JOSEPH Z: WE HAVE A CONFESSION
IN OUR HOUSE, RIGHT?

00:42:15.266 --> 00:42:17.033
LIKE WHEN WE'RE GOING
THROUGH A HARD TIME.

00:42:17.133 --> 00:42:20.699
WE SAY THIS TRIAL HAS THE
SHELF LIFE OF A BANANA.

00:42:20.799 --> 00:42:21.699
[ LAUGHTER ]


00:42:21.799 --> 00:42:22.700
JOSEPH Z: WE JUST BEGIN
TO DECLARE THAT.

00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:23.899
IT'S JUST -- IT'S
NOT GOING TO LAST.

00:42:23.999 --> 00:42:24.432
REBECCA: THAT'S FUNNY.


00:42:24.532 --> 00:42:25.666
I LIKE THAT.


00:42:25.766 --> 00:42:27.333
JOSEPH Z: WE TRY TO USE
HUMOR TO GET, GET OVER STUFF.

00:42:27.433 --> 00:42:28.399
REBECCA: SAME.


00:42:28.499 --> 00:42:29.799
JOSEPH Z: THE DEVIL
DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO

00:42:29.899 --> 00:42:30.833
WHEN YOU GET JOY GOING.


00:42:30.933 --> 00:42:32.232
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT JOY,

00:42:32.332 --> 00:42:35.133
THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING
PROPHETIC PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN.

00:42:35.233 --> 00:42:36.366
BECAUSE WE'RE SO INTENSE.


00:42:36.466 --> 00:42:38.166
WE THINK ABOUT
INTENSE THINGS.

00:42:38.266 --> 00:42:40.433
YOU SEE INTENSE THINGS
AND IT'S ALL REAL.

00:42:40.533 --> 00:42:41.566
WELL, SOME OF IT IS.


00:42:41.666 --> 00:42:43.533
AND THE BOTTOM LINE
IS IF YOU

00:42:43.633 --> 00:42:47.999
CAN MECHANIZE OR YOU CAN REALLY
BEGIN TO TAP INTO THAT JOY.

00:42:48.099 --> 00:42:51.299
YOU CARRY JOY, THAT NEHEMIAH,
THE JOY OF THE LORD

00:42:51.399 --> 00:42:51.932
THAT IS YOUR STRENGTH.


00:42:52.032 --> 00:42:52.799
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT


00:42:52.899 --> 00:42:54.299
JOY FOR THE JOY SET
BEFORE HIM,

00:42:54.399 --> 00:42:55.299
HE ENDURED THE SHAME,


00:42:55.399 --> 00:42:56.466
I GOTTA TELL YOU,


00:42:56.566 --> 00:42:57.566
YOU KNOW, REBECCA,


00:42:57.666 --> 00:43:00.399
YOU CARRY THAT JOY AND IT
JUST RADIATES OFF YOU.

00:43:00.499 --> 00:43:01.733
IT'S YOUR SUPERPOWER.


00:43:01.833 --> 00:43:02.899
YOU BREAK THROUGH
STUFF WITH IT.

00:43:02.999 --> 00:43:05.066
AND I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE
THAT TAP INTO THAT WILL

00:43:05.166 --> 00:43:07.233
BEGIN TO OVERCOME ANYTHING.


00:43:07.333 --> 00:43:10.499
THE ANOINTING IS THE POWER,
PROPHETICALLY, WHATEVER.

00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:11.600
THE ANOINTING THAT GOD


00:43:11.700 --> 00:43:13.766
PUT ON OUR LIFE IS THE
POWER TO MOVE HELL OUT OF

00:43:13.866 --> 00:43:15.799
THE WAY AND THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE CALLED TO DO.

00:43:15.899 --> 00:43:17.666
WE'RE NOT CALLED TO DO
WHAT'S POSSIBLE.

00:43:17.766 --> 00:43:19.866
WE'RE CALLED TO DO
WHAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

00:43:19.966 --> 00:43:20.600
REBECCA: WITH HIM.


00:43:20.700 --> 00:43:21.466
JOSEPH Z: WITH HIM.


00:43:21.566 --> 00:43:22.166
REBECCA: WITH HIM,
IT'S POSSIBLE.

00:43:22.266 --> 00:43:23.399
WITH US, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.


00:43:23.499 --> 00:43:24.533
JOSEPH Z: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:43:24.633 --> 00:43:26.632
REBECCA: BUT HIM IN AND
THROUGH US, IT'S POSSIBLE

00:43:26.732 --> 00:43:27.600
AND YOU'RE RIGHT.


00:43:27.700 --> 00:43:29.033
AND HE ONLY CALLS US TO
DO THINGS THAT

00:43:29.133 --> 00:43:30.632
WE CAN DO IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH HIM.

00:43:30.732 --> 00:43:31.899
JOSEPH Z: COME ON.


00:43:31.999 --> 00:43:33.366
REBECCA: AND THAT'S WHAT, WE
JUST REALLY GOTTA GET OUT OF

00:43:33.466 --> 00:43:34.366
OUR OWN WAY.


00:43:34.466 --> 00:43:34.932
JOSEPH Z: IT'S TRUE.


00:43:35.032 --> 00:43:35.500
REBECCA: YOU KNOW.


00:43:35.600 --> 00:43:36.433
JOSEPH Z: IT'S TRUE.


00:43:36.533 --> 00:43:37.433
REBECCA: THAT'S REALLY
THE BIG THING.

00:43:37.533 --> 00:43:38.266
JOSEPH Z: IT'S TRUE.


00:43:38.366 --> 00:43:39.366
[ LAUGHTER ]


00:43:39.466 --> 00:43:40.366
JOSEPH Z: THAT WAS MY
JOURNEY.

00:43:40.466 --> 00:43:42.166
I STUCK IN THE MOUNTAINS
ALL THOSE YEARS.

00:43:42.266 --> 00:43:43.366
I HAD TO GET OUT
OF MY OWN WAY.

00:43:43.466 --> 00:43:44.166
AND THE LORD HAD TO
SHOW ME

00:43:44.266 --> 00:43:45.399
WHAT A HYPOCRITE I WAS.


00:43:45.499 --> 00:43:46.033
HE HAD TO SHOW ME


00:43:46.133 --> 00:43:47.366
WHAT A PHARISEE I WAS.


00:43:47.466 --> 00:43:49.099
HE HAD TO SHOW ME ALL
THIS STUFF AND HE HAD TO

00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:49.933
REALLY, YOU KNOW,


00:43:50.033 --> 00:43:51.066
WE'RE ALL STILL
ON A JOURNEY.

00:43:51.166 --> 00:43:52.166
I HAVE NOT ARRIVED.


00:43:52.266 --> 00:43:53.033
REBECCA: SAMESIES.


00:43:53.133 --> 00:43:53.532
JOSEPH Z: SAMESIES.


00:43:53.632 --> 00:43:54.366
[ LAUGHTER ]


00:43:54.466 --> 00:43:54.933
JOSEPH Z: I'VE
NOT ARRIVED,

00:43:55.033 --> 00:43:56.233
BUT I'VE LEFT.


00:43:56.333 --> 00:43:57.000
I'VE AT LEAST LEFT.


00:43:57.100 --> 00:43:58.566
I'VE STARTED THE JOURNEY.


00:43:58.666 --> 00:43:59.799
AND SO IN THE PROCESS,


00:43:59.899 --> 00:44:01.766
WE'RE DEVELOPING UNTIL
THE DAY WE GO HOME.

00:44:01.866 --> 00:44:04.333
BUT I TAKE COMFORT IN THE
FACT THAT GOD STARTED,

00:44:04.433 --> 00:44:05.766
HE DOESN'T ABANDON US.


00:44:05.866 --> 00:44:07.366
AND IF WE'LL JUST
KEEP LISTENING,

00:44:07.466 --> 00:44:08.466
WE'LL JUST KEEP HEARING.


00:44:08.566 --> 00:44:09.933
WE'LL JUST KEEP
DISCERNING,

00:44:10.033 --> 00:44:11.000
I BELIEVE WE'LL FIND IT.


00:44:11.100 --> 00:44:13.933
I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME,
EVEN ON A BAD DAY,

00:44:14.033 --> 00:44:16.366
YOU'RE ANOINTED TO BE THE
VERY BEST THERE IS.

00:44:16.466 --> 00:44:17.666
EVEN ON A BAD DAY,


00:44:17.766 --> 00:44:19.032
GOD'S ANOINTED
YOU TO OVERCOME.

00:44:19.132 --> 00:44:22.866
HE PUTS YOU IN THIS LIFE
TO OVERCOME OBSTACLES

00:44:22.966 --> 00:44:25.499
AND PROVE TO THE DEVIL THAT
GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN

00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:27.533
US THAN HE THAT
IS IN THE WORLD.

00:44:27.633 --> 00:44:29.333
AND I'LL TELL YOU,
WE'RE MADE TO OVERCOME.

00:44:29.433 --> 00:44:30.399
WE'RE CALLED TO.


00:44:30.499 --> 00:44:31.666
WE'RE CALLED
TO KEEP WATCHING,

00:44:31.766 --> 00:44:33.799
KEEP DISCERNING,
OVERCOME EVERY OBSTACLE.

00:44:33.899 --> 00:44:35.199
BECAUSE A MAN OR WOMAN


00:44:35.299 --> 00:44:37.399
WITH A WORD FROM GOD
IS NOT AT THE MERCY OF

00:44:37.499 --> 00:44:38.966
SOME CULTURE GOING MAD.


00:44:39.066 --> 00:44:39.966
PEOPLE ASK ME ALL THE TIME,


00:44:40.066 --> 00:44:41.933
THEY SAY SO WHAT IS
IT YOU DO?

00:44:42.033 --> 00:44:43.099
AND I LIKE
TO SAY TO THEM,

00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:45.333
WELL, I'M A MOTIVATIONAL
CONSULTANT FOR THE UNRENEWED

00:44:45.433 --> 00:44:47.266
MIND DISORDER EPIDEMIC.


00:44:47.366 --> 00:44:48.266
THAT'S WHAT GOD'S
CALLED ME TO DO.

00:44:48.366 --> 00:44:49.599
TO BREAK YOU OUT OF


00:44:49.699 --> 00:44:52.766
THIS SYSTEMATIC
CONTAINMENT CALLED EVIL.

00:44:52.866 --> 00:44:55.099
AND PROPHECY REALLY
JUST POINTS TO JESUS.

00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:56.000
THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.


00:44:56.100 --> 00:44:56.900
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:58.100
JOSEPH Z: THE
TESTIMONY OF JESUS.

00:44:58.200 --> 00:44:59.100
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
HERE FOR.

00:44:59.200 --> 00:45:00.200
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:45:00.300 --> 00:45:01.500
JOSEPH Z: I THINK YOU'RE
GOING TO BE A CATALYST IN

00:45:01.600 --> 00:45:02.999
THAT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,
REBECCA.

00:45:03.099 --> 00:45:06.199
REBECCA: I RECEIVE THAT AND
JUST STAY HUMBLE AND RECEIVE

00:45:06.299 --> 00:45:08.566
HIS HEART BECAUSE YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO MAKE A

00:45:08.666 --> 00:45:11.133
DIFFERENCE UNLESS
YOU HAVE HIS HEART.

00:45:11.233 --> 00:45:11.633
JOSEPH Z: YEAH.


00:45:11.733 --> 00:45:12.433
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:45:12.533 --> 00:45:13.266
WILL YOU PRAY
FOR EVERYONE?

00:45:13.366 --> 00:45:14.299
JOSEPH Z: OH, I
WOULD LOVE TO.

00:45:14.399 --> 00:45:15.799
REBECCA: AND THEN WE'LL SAY
BYE TO EVERYONE.

00:45:15.899 --> 00:45:16.999
JOSEPH Z: I'D LOVE TO.


00:45:17.099 --> 00:45:19.366
WELL, FATHER, I JUST
THANK YOU FOR THIS PODCAST.

00:45:19.466 --> 00:45:22.233
I THANK YOU FOR EVERY LISTENER,
EVERY VIEWER RIGHT NOW.

00:45:22.333 --> 00:45:24.900
I HOLD THEM UP BEFORE YOU
AND I JUST BEGIN TO SPEAK

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.266
THE PEACE THAT PASSES
UNDERSTANDING.

00:45:27.366 --> 00:45:31.999
I BIND EVERY FORM OF CONFUSION,
CHAOS, THE SENSATIONALISM

00:45:32.099 --> 00:45:33.266
THAT'S IN THE CULTURE.


00:45:33.366 --> 00:45:37.032
I SPEAK JUST LIKE, JUST LIKE
WHEN MOSES HEARD YOUR VOICE.

00:45:37.132 --> 00:45:39.199
JUST LIKE WHEN THE
PROPHETS HEARD YOUR VOICE

00:45:39.299 --> 00:45:40.866
AND THAT STILL
SMALL VOICE

00:45:40.966 --> 00:45:42.999
THAT WAS NOT IN
THE TORNADOS,

00:45:43.099 --> 00:45:45.099
THE CLASHING OF ROCKS,
THE EARTHQUAKE.

00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.066
IT'S THAT STILL
SMALL VOICE

00:45:47.166 --> 00:45:49.566
THAT IS FOUND
THROUGH YOUR WORD,

00:45:49.666 --> 00:45:50.833
AND IT IS FOUND
IN THE PEACE.

00:45:50.933 --> 00:45:51.966
AND RIGHT NOW,


00:45:52.066 --> 00:45:54.766
I SPEAK TO PEOPLE THAT ARE
WORKING THROUGH CHAOS,

00:45:54.866 --> 00:45:56.732
YOU'RE WORKING
THROUGH ANXIETY.

00:45:56.832 --> 00:46:00.233
YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH
JUST MIND ISSUES.

00:46:00.333 --> 00:46:01.699
IN THE NAME OF JESUS,


00:46:01.799 --> 00:46:03.599
I SPEAK PEACE TO YOU.


00:46:03.699 --> 00:46:04.899
I SPEAK CLARITY TO YOU.


00:46:04.999 --> 00:46:06.199
YOU ARE NOT ALONE.


00:46:06.299 --> 00:46:09.133
YOU ARE NOT REJECTED AND
GOD IS BRINGING ORDER

00:46:09.233 --> 00:46:11.466
AND PEACE TO THE MIDST
OF CONFUSION RIGHT

00:46:11.566 --> 00:46:12.433
INTO YOUR HEART.


00:46:12.533 --> 00:46:14.099
AND I SAY PEACE,
BE STILL,

00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.133
HEAR HIS VOICE AND
LIVE TODAY.

00:46:16.233 --> 00:46:17.833
GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF LIFE,


00:46:17.933 --> 00:46:19.999
NOT THE AUTHOR
OF CONFUSION.

00:46:20.099 --> 00:46:21.532
AND I DO DECLARE OVER
YOUR LIFE,

00:46:21.632 --> 00:46:22.966
EVEN ON A BAD DAY,


00:46:23.066 --> 00:46:26.766
YOU ARE ANOINTED TO BE
THE VERY BEST THERE IS.

00:46:26.866 --> 00:46:28.432
GOD DOESN'T HAVE
ANYBODY ELSE.

00:46:28.532 --> 00:46:29.499
HE HAS YOU.


00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:32.033
YOU'RE HIS PLAN AND
I BLESS YOU.

00:46:32.133 --> 00:46:33.466
AND WHAT GOD HAS BLESSED,


00:46:33.566 --> 00:46:36.699
CANNOT BE CURSED IN
JESUS' NAME.

00:46:36.799 --> 00:46:37.300
AMEN.


00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:38.533
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:46:38.633 --> 00:46:39.366
THANK YOU.


00:46:39.466 --> 00:46:39.899
JOSEPH Z: YOU'RE
WELCOME, MA'AM.