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REBECCA: WHY ARE
YOU LAUGHING?

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JONATHAN: IT'S FUNNY


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WATCHING YOU TRYING
TO EXPLAIN THAT.

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HOLD ON TO EACH MOMENT.


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THE DAYS SOMETIMES
ARE LONG.

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THE YEARS ARE VERY FAST.


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REBECCA: THIS IS SO NOT WHAT
YOU WOULD WANT ME TO SAY.

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JONATHAN: PERFECT.


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THIS IS PERFECT,
FOLKS.

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THIS IS MARRIAGE 101
RIGHT HERE.

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HOW WERE WE GOING TO
SAY THE SAME ONE?

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THAT'S CRAZY.


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REBECCA: IT REALLY CAME
UP IN MY HEAD.

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JONATHAN: ME TOO.


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YOU KNOW WHAT?


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AND THERE'S BEEN SO MANY
TIMES, NOT SO MANY,

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BUT PROBABLY A DOZEN THAT
I HAVE GONE TO GOD

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IN FRUSTRATION
OVER WHATEVER...

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REBECCA: NOT ME.


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JONATHAN: YOU, MAYBE SOMEBODY
HERE, COULD BE YOU, YOU.

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REBECCA: WOULD I
EVEN ANSWER IT?

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PROBABLY NOT.


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JONATHAN: PROBABLY NOT.




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JONATHAN: HELLO.


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WELCOME BACK TO
<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST</i> .

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I'M YOUR HOST,
JONATHAN WEISS.

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I DON'T KNOW.


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REBECCA: THANKS FOR
HAVING ME ON.

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JONATHAN: YEAH.


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IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU.


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SO TELL US,


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HOW DID YOU GET STARTED?


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REBECCA: YOU KNOW, IT ALL
STARTED WHEN I WAS JUST A BABY.

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[ LAUGHTER ]


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REBECCA: GUYS, WELCOME BACK TO
<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.</i>

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I'M JOINED ONCE AGAIN
WITH MY FAVORITE PERSON

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IN THE WHOLE WORLD,
JONATHAN.

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JONATHAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
GOOD TO BE HERE.

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REBECCA: JONATHAN, MY HUSBAND
AND I JUST TALKED OVER YOU.

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I'M SORRY.


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I WAS SO EXCITED.


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YOU SAID?


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WHAT DID YOU SAY?


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JONATHAN: I JUST SAID


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THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.


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REBECCA: HEY, THANKS FOR
BEING HERE.

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JONATHAN: WHAT'S THE
SPECIAL OCCASION?

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REBECCA: WHY ARE WE
HERE TODAY?

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JONATHAN: I DON'T KNOW.


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REBECCA: WE'RE HERE
BECAUSE IT'S?

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JONATHAN: WHAT ARE
YOU LOOKING FOR?

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REBECCA: WHERE'S YOUR PILLOW?


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JONATHAN: IT'S TUCKED
BEHIND MY BACK.

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REBECCA: CAN WE --


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JONATHAN: YOU CAN
SHOW THIS CARD.

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REBECCA: OH, IT'S --


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[ LAUGHTER ]


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JONATHAN: THAT'S ALL THE
PEOPLE WANT IS MORE SINGING.

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[ LAUGHTER ]


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REBECCA: OH, IT'S
VALENTINE'S DAY, FOLKS.

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AND I WILL STOP SINGING.


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UM, BECAUSE Y'ALL DON'T
WANT TO HEAR THAT.

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BUT I GUESS YOU
WANT TO HEAR US.

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SO HAPPY VALENTINE'S
DAY, BABE...

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JONATHAN: YOU TOO, LOVE.


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REBECCA: WE'RE NOT -- ARE WE
BIG VALENTINE'S DAY PEOPLE?

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JONATHAN: WE NEVER HAVE BEEN.


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MAYBE THIS WILL
BE OUR YEAR.

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REBECCA: MAYBE THIS IS
OUR YEAR.

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COMMENT DOWN BELOW.


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WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO DO
FOR VALENTINE'S DAY?

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AND WHAT IS A GOOD
GIFT TO GET SOMEONE

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FOR VALENTINE'S DAY.


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BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN
REALLY DO GIFTS.

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JONATHAN: JEWELRY


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WOULD BE A GOOD GIFT


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NOT THAT I'VE
GOTTEN YOU ANYTHING.

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BUT I HAVE A LOT OF
TIME TO PREPARE

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AND GET YOU SOMETHING.


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REBECCA: WELL, YOU ARE ALWAYS
SO SWEET AND CONSIDERATE

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WHEN IT COMES TO GIFTS.


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SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.


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WELL, IN FRONT OF US,


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WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.


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JONATHAN: YES.


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REBECCA: VIEWERS WROTE IN
WITH THEIR QUESTIONS.

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AND SO WE ARE GOING TO
BE ANSWERING

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YOUR QUESTIONS TODAY.


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SO YOU WANT TO GO?


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ME?


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ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS.


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JONATHAN: NO.


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I'LL GO.


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REBECCA: OKAY.


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JONATHAN: IT'S THE OPPOSITE
OF WHAT YOU WANTED

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TO DO WITH STARTING LIGHT.


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REBECCA: LET'S GO DEEP.


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JONATHAN: OKAY, COOL.


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HOW DID YOU PREPARE
TO BE PARENTS?

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REBECCA: WOW.


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JONATHAN: AND HAVE YOU
ALWAYS WANTED KIDS?

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REBECCA: WOW, DEEP END.


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JONATHAN: YEAH.


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REBECCA: JUST DIVING IN.


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HOW DID WE PREPARE
TO BE PARENTS?

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WELL, UM, PARENTHOOD.


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JONATHAN: DEEP, DEEP,
LONG PAUSE.

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PARENTING CATCHES YOU
BY SURPRISE.

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IT'S NOT,


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I MEAN, I GUESS SOME
PEOPLE ARE LIKE,

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OH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
KIDS AND IN AUGUST OF THE

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THIRD YEAR AFTER WE'RE
MARRIED OR WHATEVER, BUT

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THAT'S NOT HOW
IT WORKED FOR US.

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REBECCA: I WOULD SAY NO ONE IS
EVER PREPARED TO BE A PARENT.

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YOU'RE NEVER READY.


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THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME.


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YOU JUST -- I SAY JUST GO
FOR IT, YOU KNOW.

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I DON'T KNOW, SORRY, I FEEL
BAD ABOUT THIS ANSWER.

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JONATHAN: NO, I THINK
THAT'S TRUE THAT

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YOU'RE NOT
REALLY PREPARED

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AND HOW WE HANDLED IT WAS
WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING

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KIDS WHEN WE WERE DATING.


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REBECCA: YES.


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JONATHAN: SO WE KNEW THAT WE
BOTH WANTED TO HAVE KIDS.

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AND THEN WHILE WE WERE
DATING, WE SAID,

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LIKE WE WERE DATING LONG
DISTANCE WHEN WE'RE GETTING

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KNOW EACH OTHER.


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AND SO WE SAID ALL RIGHT
ON THE COUNT OF THREE SAY

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HOW MANY KIDS YOU WANT.


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AND THEN 1,2,3, THREE.


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WE BOTH SAID THREE.


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SO, THAT'S HOW WE KNEW WE
WANTED TO HAVE THREE KIDS.

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VERY PRACTICAL.


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AND THEN WHEN
WE GOT MARRIED,

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YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS
AFTER MARRIAGE?

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YOU START HAVING CHILDREN.


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REBECCA: BABIES.


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JONATHAN: YEAH,


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AND ONCE YOU HAVE KIDS,


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IT'S JUST A LEARNING CURVE
THAT YOU HAVE TO PARTNER

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ON IT TOGETHER BECAUSE
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'VE

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HAD KIDS PREVIOUSLY.


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REBECCA: EXACTLY.


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YOU JUST NEED TO BE,


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I THINK FOR ME,


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I JUST SAID, LORD,


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I WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT.


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AND I REMEMBER
GETTING ON MY KNEES

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WHEN WE HAD JUST ASHY.


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AND I SAID, GOD,


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I NEED YOU TO SHOW ME
HOW TO BE A GOOD WIFE

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AND A GOOD MOTHER.


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BECAUSE I CAN'T
DO IT WITHOUT HIM.

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AND I ASKED HIM
FOR HIS HELP.

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AND I THINK THROUGH THE
YEARS AND JUST BEING

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COMMITTED TO LEARNING AND
GROWING, YOU BECOME MORE

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AND MORE ABLE
OF PARENTING.

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AND I THINK WE REALLY SOUGHT
GOD'S HEART ON A BIBLICAL

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FORM OF PARENTING.


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AND I THINK ONE OF
THE BEST THINGS

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I EVER LEARNED
ABOUT PARENTING

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AND I REMEMBER
I WAS PRAYING.

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WE JUST HAD ASHER AND
I WAS ASKING GOD ABOUT

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HOW TO PARENT ASHER.


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AND I CAME ACROSS A, I
THINK HE'S A PSYCHOLOGIST.

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HIS NAME'S GABOR MATE.


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BUT HE HAS A BOOK CALLED
<i>HOLD ON TO YOUR KIDS.</i>

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AND THE WHOLE PREMISE OF
THE BOOK IS OUR ABILITY TO

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SPEAK INTO OUR CHILDREN'S
LIFE IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED

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TO THE LEVEL OF RELATIONSHIP
THAT WE HAVE WITH HIM.

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AND SO IT TALKS ABOUT
DEVELOPING A STRONG

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FOUNDATION OF TRUST AND
RELATIONSHIP

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WITH YOUR CHILDREN


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BECAUSE THE CLOSER
THAT Y'ALL ARE, THE MORE

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YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO
SPEAK INTO THEIR LIVES.

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AND IT JUST MADE
ME THINK OF FATHER GOD.

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THE MORE THAT
WE TRUST HIM,

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THE MORE THAT WE OPEN OURSELVES
UP TO HEAR FROM HIM.

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JONATHAN: GREAT ANSWER.


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REBECCA: VERY DEEP.


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JONATHAN: WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION?


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REBECCA: MINE'S
LIGHTHEARTED AND FUN.

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IF YOU COULD
RELIVE ANY MOMENT

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FROM YOUR RELATIONSHIP,


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WHAT WOULD IT BE AND WHY?


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JONATHAN: ITALY 2019.


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REBECCA: YES,
THERE WE GO.

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JONATHAN: 20 --


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REBECCA: '19


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JONATHAN: '19.


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REBECCA: '19?


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JONATHAN: I DON'T KNOW.


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REBECCA: YES.


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BECAUSE IT WAS DECEMBER.


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ITALY 2019.


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WE WENT FOR TWO WEEKS.


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IT WAS SUPER FUN.


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JONATHAN: WAS IT TWO WEEKS?


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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WELL, WE WENT FOR A
CONFERENCE OUT THERE.

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JONATHAN: RIGHT.


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REBECCA: MUCHAN WHICH IS A
MESSIANIC CONFERENCE

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OF BELIEVERS AND SO IT
WAS FUN.

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BUT IT WAS ALSO --
WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING AT ME?

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JONATHAN: IT'S JUST
FUNNY WATCHING YOU

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TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT.


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NO, THAT WAS SO FUN.


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WE DID ROME.


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WE DID VENICE, THE TUSCANY.


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WHAT'S IT CALLED?


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WHERE WERE WE?


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REBECCA: YEAH, TUSCANY.


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JONATHAN: WE WERE THERE.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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AND VENICE AND ROME.


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THOSE ARE THE THREE
PLACES WE'VE BEEN.

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JONATHAN: IT'S SO COOL.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JONATHAN: AND BEAUTIFUL.


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REBECCA: THAT WAS --


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JONATHAN: AND INTERESTING.


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REBECCA: THAT WAS ONE
OF THE BEST TRIPS

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I'VE EVER BEEN ON.


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ONE OF THE FUNNEST
TIMES IN OUR MARRIAGE

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BECAUSE WE WERE
NEWLY MARRIED.

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JONATHAN: THAT'S SAD,
IT'S SO LONG AGO.

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REBECCA: WELL, WE STARTED
HAVING KIDS RIGHT AFTER THAT.

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JONATHAN: WE'VE HAD A LOT OF
GOOD TRIPS, THOUGH.

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REBECCA: NO, WE HAVE, BUT YOU
KNOW FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T

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HAVE KIDS YET,


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JUST ENJOY IT.


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AND THEN ALSO KNOW THAT,
BUT YET AT THE SAME TIME KIDS

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ARE LIKE ONE OF
THE BEST THINGS

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WE'VE EVER DONE.


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SO, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, YOU
ENJOY EACH SEASON FOR WHAT

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IT IS AND WHAT
IS SOMETHING

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GOD HAS SHOWN YOU MULTIPLE
TIMES ABOUT OUR KIDS?

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JONATHAN: JUST HOW QUICKLY


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IT'S GOING TO GO.


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AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT HE

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CONSTANTLY REMINDS ME OF
JUST LIKE HOLD ON TO EACH

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MOMENT AND BE INTENTIONAL
WITH THE MOMENTS

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AS THEY'RE HAPPENING.


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EVEN THOUGH THE DAYS
SOMETIMES ARE LONG,

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THE YEARS ARE VERY FAST.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JONATHAN: AND EVEN
JUST ASHER BECAUSE

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HE'S ALREADY FIVE
YEARS OLD, YOU KNOW.

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WE'VE SEEN THAT
GO BY SO FAST.

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AND SO WE HAVE BOAZ.


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WE HAVE ELIANA.


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ELIANA IS NOW ABOUT TO
BE EIGHT MONTHS OLD,

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BOAZ IS ABOUT TO BE TWO
AND A HALF ALMOST THREE.

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REBECCA: SO FAST.


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JONATHAN: SO WE'RE JUST TRYING
TO REALLY INVEST IN THEM AS

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MUCH AS WE CAN, WITH AS MUCH
TIME MEMORIES THAT WE CAN.

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BECAUSE THESE FIRST 12 YEARS
ARE SO FORMIDABLE YEARS.

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REBECCA: THEY ARE AND
I THINK WITH ASHER,

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HE'S REALLY SHOWN ME
HOW FAST IT CAN GO.

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BECAUSE HE'S NO
LONGER A BABY.

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HE'S FIVE.


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JONATHAN: FAR FROM IT.


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REBECCA: IT'S CRAZY.


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WE BOTH HAVE BEEN
SHOCKED AT HOW QUICKLY

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HE'S GROWN UP AND NOW
HIS SIBLINGS

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ARE GOING EVEN FASTER.


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JONATHAN: I KNOW THAT'S TRUE.


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REBECCA: AND I WILL SAY
WITH EACH KID,

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YOU DO FEEL MORE, FOR ME,


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I FEEL MORE CAPABLE
AS A PARENT.

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BUT, WAIT, DID WE
ANSWER THE QUESTION?

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ITALY 2019.


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JONATHAN: YEAH, WE
ANSWERED IT.

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REBECCA: BEST TRIP.


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SECOND BEST TRIP, HAWAII.


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JONATHAN: I WAS GONNA
SAY MAUI, YEAH.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JONATHAN: THIRD BEST TRIP,
TENNESSEE.

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REBECCA: OH, YES.


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I WANT TO GO BACK.


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JONATHAN: BUT ALSO
LIKE WHEN YOU JUST THINK

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ABOUT JUST OTHER
SIMPLER TIMES.

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NOT TRAVELING, TIMES
THAT WE REALLY ENJOYED.

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OH, ISRAEL.


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REBECCA: THAT'S TRAVELING.


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JONATHAN: OH, SORRY.


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I JUST THOUGHT OF
ONE MORE TRAVELING ONE.

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BUT I WAS GOING
TO SAY ISRAEL.

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REBECCA: WHICH ISRAEL TRIP


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ARE YOU REFERRING TO?


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JONATHAN: THE ONE
THAT WE WENT ON

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JUST THE TWO OF US.


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REBECCA: THE STRUGGLE
BUS TRIP,

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BUT IT WAS SO FUN.


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JONATHAN: IT WASN'T A STRUGGLE.


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IT WAS JUST VERY INTENSE.


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REBECCA: GETTING
THERE WAS A STRUGGLE.

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JONATHAN: OH, YEAH.


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REBECCA: WE WERE STUCK IN
THE AIRPORT IN FRANCE

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AND EVERYTHING WAS
SHUT DOWN.

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JONATHAN: THE DAYSTAR PRODUCTION
STAFF SENT ME WITH SO MANY

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THINGS TO CARRY.


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I HAD LIKE AN EASEL WITH LIKE
A BIN FULL OF PAMPHLETS.

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REBECCA: AND WE FLEW EL AL
AND EL AL WAS LIKE

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WHAT IS ALL THIS STUFF?


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AND WE WERE LIKE
IT'S BROCHURES.

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JONATHAN: THIS IS A
ROCKET LAUNCHER, SIR.

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[ LAUGHTER ]


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REBECCA: WE'RE LIKE IT'S
JUST BROCHURES.

00:09:05.933 --> 00:09:07.266
IT'S JUST LIKE MATERIALS.


00:09:07.366 --> 00:09:08.366
BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO A
CONFERENCE THERE.

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JONATHAN: YEAH.


00:09:09.199 --> 00:09:10.266
REBECCA: BUT WE MADE IT.


00:09:10.366 --> 00:09:11.333
WE HAD SO MUCH FUN.


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JONATHAN: WE HAD SUCH A
GREAT TIME TOGETHER.

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REBECCA: I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE
WE LOVE EACH OTHER SO MUCH

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AND WE'RE BEST FRIENDS
THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO --

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JONATHAN: QUITE THE LABEL.


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REBECCA: THAT WE --


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JONATHAN: DO I GET A
BRACELET WITH THAT?

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REBECCA: MAYBE THAT'S
YOUR VALENTINE GIFT,

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BUT WE ALWAYS MAKE THE MOST OF
THE SITUATIONS WE'RE IN.

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WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE FUN
JUST THE TWO THOSE OF US.

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JONATHAN: THAT IS TRUE.


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HOW TO KNOW THE ONE?


00:09:32.366 --> 00:09:33.299
I DON'T KNOW.


00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:34.466
I'M SURE THIS QUESTION
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE,

00:09:34.566 --> 00:09:36.333
HOW DO YOU KNOW --


00:09:36.433 --> 00:09:37.233
REBECCA: SOMEONE'S THE ONE?


00:09:37.333 --> 00:09:38.099
JONATHAN: YES.


00:09:38.199 --> 00:09:39.266
REBECCA: OKAY, UM,


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HOW DO I KNOW
SOMEONE'S THE ONE?

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JONATHAN: SOMEONE'S THE ONE.


00:09:42.299 --> 00:09:43.333
SHE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.


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REBECCA: IT'S SUCH A HIGHLY
TALKED ABOUT THING.

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AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES


00:09:48.900 --> 00:09:49.633
I'M LIKE, LORD,


00:09:49.733 --> 00:09:50.500
GIVE ME THE RIGHT
ANSWER.

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JONATHAN: WHAT WE DID WAS


00:09:52.432 --> 00:09:54.366
YOU HAD JUST GOTTEN ON
YOUR KNEES AND PRAYED,

00:09:54.466 --> 00:09:56.499
GOD, SEND ME AN
ASSERTIVE MAN.

00:09:56.599 --> 00:09:58.933
REBECCA HAD JUST PRAYED TO
GOD ASKING FOR SOMETHING.

00:09:59.033 --> 00:10:02.366
I HAPPENED TO MESSAGE HER
THAT DAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

00:10:02.466 --> 00:10:05.900
AND FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING,

00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:07.066
THERE WAS CHEMISTRY.


00:10:07.166 --> 00:10:08.799
SO YOU START BY KNOWING
IF THERE'S CHEMISTRY

00:10:08.899 --> 00:10:09.966
WITH THAT PERSON.


00:10:10.066 --> 00:10:12.266
I WOULD SAY THAT'S LIKE
YOUR INITIAL FOUNDATION.

00:10:12.366 --> 00:10:13.899
THERE'S NOT CHEMISTRY
YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE

00:10:13.999 --> 00:10:15.033
SOMETHING NOT, IT'S
GOING TO BE

00:10:15.133 --> 00:10:16.832
HARD BECAUSE LIFE'S HARD.


00:10:16.932 --> 00:10:19.233
MARRIAGE IS HARD, HAVING
KIDS, ALL THAT'S HARD.

00:10:19.333 --> 00:10:21.233
SO YOU HAVE TO BUILD
THE FOUNDATION FIRST.

00:10:21.333 --> 00:10:22.433
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:10:22.533 --> 00:10:25.199
JONATHAN: SO TO KNOW AND THEN
AND THEN AS WE DATED ONE

00:10:25.299 --> 00:10:26.699
ANOTHER WE HAD --


00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:27.733
REBECCA: BUT DEFINE CHEMISTRY


00:10:27.833 --> 00:10:29.266
BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE
MEANING IT IN

00:10:29.366 --> 00:10:33.766
A DIFFERENT WAY THAN
PEOPLE PERCEIVE IT.

00:10:33.866 --> 00:10:34.399
[ LAUGHTER ]


00:10:34.499 --> 00:10:35.266
JONATHAN: NO, I'M NOT.


00:10:35.366 --> 00:10:36.300
EVERYONE'S
PERCEIVING IT PERFECTLY.

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REBECCA: OKAY.


00:10:37.433 --> 00:10:39.666
WELL, I THINK WE HAD
CHEMISTRY, BUT IT'S MORE

00:10:39.766 --> 00:10:40.933
THAN JUST CHEMISTRY.


00:10:41.033 --> 00:10:42.266
WE SHARE THE SAME VALUES.


00:10:42.366 --> 00:10:43.333
JONATHAN: I WAS WORKING
UP TO THAT.

00:10:43.433 --> 00:10:44.100
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:44.766
JONATHAN: THIS IS PERFECT.


00:10:44.866 --> 00:10:45.932
THIS IS PERFECT, FOLKS.


00:10:46.032 --> 00:10:48.399
THIS IS MARRIAGE 101
RIGHT HERE.

00:10:48.499 --> 00:10:51.366
WHAT WE STARTED WITH WAS
ESTABLISHING THAT WE BOTH

00:10:51.466 --> 00:10:52.299
MADE EACH OTHER LAUGH.


00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.066
WE ENJOYED TALKING
TO ANOTHER.

00:10:54.166 --> 00:10:56.366
AND THEN AS WE GOT DEEPER AND
GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER,

00:10:56.466 --> 00:10:59.766
WE STARTED ASKING HARDER
QUESTIONS AND VALUES

00:10:59.866 --> 00:11:01.166
STARTED TO COME UP.


00:11:01.266 --> 00:11:03.433
HOW YOU WANTED TO RAISE OUR
KIDS, WHAT YOU BELIEVED IN,

00:11:03.533 --> 00:11:04.600
YOU KNOW HOW WHAT
KIND OF CHURCH

00:11:04.700 --> 00:11:05.666
WE WANTED TO GO TO.


00:11:05.766 --> 00:11:07.499
ALL OF THESE THINGS
THAT ARE LIKE

00:11:07.599 --> 00:11:09.999
FOUNDATIONAL TO, IN MY
OPINION, FOUNDATIONAL TO

00:11:10.099 --> 00:11:13.799
A RELATIONSHIP, WE ASKED
EARLY ON IN, IN THE DATING

00:11:13.899 --> 00:11:15.633
PROCESS, BECAUSE WE WERE
DATING LONG DISTANCE.

00:11:15.733 --> 00:11:18.433
IT WAS EASY TO TALK THROUGH
A LOT OF THAT STUFF.

00:11:18.533 --> 00:11:20.799
SO I FOUND OUT OR I
FOUND OUT,

00:11:20.899 --> 00:11:23.133
I FIGURED OUT THAT YOU
WERE THE ONE WHILE WE WERE

00:11:23.233 --> 00:11:24.866
DATING LONG DISTANCE.


00:11:24.966 --> 00:11:27.700
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHERE
I WAS IN THE MOMENT,

00:11:27.800 --> 00:11:30.099
WHEN I HAD THE THOUGHT,
AND I FELT IN MY SPIRIT,

00:11:30.199 --> 00:11:31.332
I WAS LIKE,


00:11:31.432 --> 00:11:33.666
OH, SHE'S THE ONE, LIKE I
CANNOT -- I KNOW THAT MEMORY.

00:11:33.766 --> 00:11:35.000
I KNOW THAT SPOT,
EVERYTHING.

00:11:35.100 --> 00:11:38.099
SO, UM, MAYBE IT'S
DIFFERENT FOR OTHER PEOPLE,

00:11:38.199 --> 00:11:40.633
BUT I KNEW WHEN IT
HAPPENED FOR ME.

00:11:40.733 --> 00:11:41.466
REBECCA: FOR ME,


00:11:41.566 --> 00:11:43.900
I WOULD SAY THAT
I FROM THE MOMENT

00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.333
I SURRENDERED MY
LIFE TO JESUS,

00:11:46.433 --> 00:11:48.666
WHEN I WAS 19,
ONE OF THINGS

00:11:48.766 --> 00:11:51.032
HE TOLD ME WAS TO BE
REALLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT

00:11:51.132 --> 00:11:52.166
GUARDING MY HEART.


00:11:52.266 --> 00:11:55.399
AND SO I WAS
INTENTIONAL ABOUT JUST

00:11:55.499 --> 00:11:59.200
PURSUING MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIM AND I SUBMITTED

00:11:59.300 --> 00:12:00.666
MY LIFE TO HIM.


00:12:00.766 --> 00:12:02.700
AND SO THAT ALSO CAME DOWN
TO WHO I WAS GOING TO

00:12:02.800 --> 00:12:05.499
MARRY, BUT I THINK
THERE'S TWO EXTREMES.

00:12:05.599 --> 00:12:11.199
I THINK PEOPLE ARE TOO
LIKE LEGALISTIC ABOUT IT

00:12:11.299 --> 00:12:13.666
AND THEY'RE LIKE WHOEVER
GOD TELLS ME TO MARRY AND

00:12:13.766 --> 00:12:16.266
I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE
ATTRACTED TO THEM.

00:12:16.366 --> 00:12:17.099
AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER


00:12:17.199 --> 00:12:19.366
EXTREME OF IT WHICH IS
JUST LIKE,

00:12:19.466 --> 00:12:21.332
WELL, WHOEVER I WANT.


00:12:21.432 --> 00:12:22.399
AND IT'S ONE OF
THOSE THINGS

00:12:22.499 --> 00:12:25.866
WHERE GOD I DO BELIEVE
HAS A BEST PLAN FOR OUR

00:12:25.966 --> 00:12:28.299
LIVES, BUT ONE OF THE
THINGS I FELT LIKE THE

00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:32.900
LORD SHOWED ME IS THAT WE
MAKE THE CHOICE LIKE WE,

00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:34.566
WE SUBMIT OUR
CHOICE TO HIM.

00:12:34.666 --> 00:12:36.833
BUT WE MAKE THE CHOICE
MEANING LIKE WE HAVE TO

00:12:36.933 --> 00:12:38.100
TAKE OWNERSHIP FOR
OUR DECISION

00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:39.466
BECAUSE MARRIAGE IS A
CHOICE.

00:12:39.566 --> 00:12:41.399
AND EVERY SINGLE DAY,
YOU'RE LIKE I

00:12:41.499 --> 00:12:43.500
CHOSE THIS PERSON AND
I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO

00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:45.266
CHOOSE THIS PERSON EVERY
SINGLE DAY.

00:12:45.366 --> 00:12:46.366
AND ONE OF THINGS


00:12:46.466 --> 00:12:47.699
HE SHOWED ME ON OUR
WEDDING DAY IS AND IT SAYS

00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:50.233
IN EPHESIANS THAT GOD
CHOSE US IN CHRIST BEFORE

00:12:50.333 --> 00:12:52.366
THE FOUNDATION OF THE
WORLD AND HE TOLD ME HE'S

00:12:52.466 --> 00:12:55.199
LIKE JUST AS YOU ARE
CHOOSING JONATHAN TODAY,

00:12:55.299 --> 00:12:56.666
I CHOSE YOU.


00:12:56.766 --> 00:12:58.032
AND SO IT WAS LIKE
THIS POWERFUL LIKE

00:12:58.132 --> 00:12:59.966
REVELATION THAT
HE GAVE ME.

00:13:00.066 --> 00:13:03.099
BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST I
REMEMBER I ASKED GOD,

00:13:03.199 --> 00:13:05.499
BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID BECAUSE
RELATIONSHIPS ARE SCARY,

00:13:05.599 --> 00:13:07.033
MARRIAGE IS SCARY.


00:13:07.133 --> 00:13:08.833
IT'S A BIG THING
AND YOU'RE --

00:13:08.933 --> 00:13:10.099
JONATHAN: I WASN'T SCARED.


00:13:10.199 --> 00:13:11.400
REBECCA: YOU'RE AMAZING.


00:13:11.500 --> 00:13:12.233
WE'RE DIFFERENT.


00:13:12.333 --> 00:13:13.332
I WAS SCARED.


00:13:13.432 --> 00:13:15.733
UM, AND I REMEMBER KIND
OF GIVING GOD LIKE AN

00:13:15.833 --> 00:13:18.699
ULTIMATUM AND I WAS LIKE I
NEED TO KNOW IF THIS GUY

00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:19.900
IS IT OR NOT
BECAUSE I REALLY --

00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.200
JONATHAN: WHAT STAGE IN
THE DATING PROCESS

00:13:21.300 --> 00:13:23.366
WAS THIS ULTIMATUM?


00:13:23.466 --> 00:13:27.799
REBECCA: LIKE EARLIER ON, AND
I REMEMBER I JUST SAID I

00:13:27.899 --> 00:13:29.866
REALLY I HAD FEELINGS
FOR YOU, THOUGH, AND I

00:13:29.966 --> 00:13:33.633
REMEMBER ASKING GOD AND I
REMEMBER HE TOLD ME, REBECCA,

00:13:33.733 --> 00:13:35.399
I'VE BEEN GUIDING
YOU THIS WHOLE TIME.

00:13:35.499 --> 00:13:36.366
AND SO IF YOU'RE REALLY


00:13:36.466 --> 00:13:38.632
PURSUING THE LORD AND
PUTTING HIM FIRST

00:13:38.732 --> 00:13:40.299
AND SAYING, GOD, I
WANT WHAT YOU WANT,

00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:42.299
HE IS GOING TO LEAD YOU
AND HE'S GOING TO GUIDE

00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:43.766
YOU AND HE'S
GOING TO SHOW YOU.

00:13:43.866 --> 00:13:45.332
JONATHAN: THAT'S THE THING
THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS

00:13:45.432 --> 00:13:47.999
JUST I HAD A
COUPLE OF CLOSER

00:13:48.099 --> 00:13:49.100
OR SERIOUS RELATIONSHIPS


00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:53.266
PRIOR TO YOU THAT I
THOUGHT WERE LIKE TRENDING

00:13:53.366 --> 00:13:55.132
IN THAT DIRECTION
OF MARRIAGE.

00:13:55.232 --> 00:13:58.500
BUT BECAUSE I WAS MAKING
THE LORD MY PRIORITY AND

00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.966
LISTENING TO HIM AND
FOLLOWING MY PEACE AND MY

00:14:02.066 --> 00:14:03.232
RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT,

00:14:03.332 --> 00:14:07.999
I KNEW WHEN THOSE WERE NOT GOING
TO BE THE PEOPLE AND SO --

00:14:08.099 --> 00:14:09.199
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:14:09.299 --> 00:14:10.999
JONATHAN: IT'S SOMETIMES IT
CAN BE A TOUGHER DECISION

00:14:11.099 --> 00:14:12.466
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE
VALUES PART OR THE

00:14:12.566 --> 00:14:14.933
CHEMISTRY PART, BUT YOU
REALLY DO HAVE TO HEAR

00:14:15.033 --> 00:14:16.066
FROM THE LORD.


00:14:16.166 --> 00:14:18.233
REBECCA: LIKE MAYBE THERE'S
NOT AN ALIGNMENT IN

00:14:18.333 --> 00:14:20.366
CALLING AND IT'S SO, IT'S
LIKE IF YOU GET TOGETHER,

00:14:20.466 --> 00:14:22.199
YOU'RE GOING TO BE WORKING
AGAINST ONE ANOTHER AND SO

00:14:22.299 --> 00:14:23.700
THAT'S ANOTHER
THING WAS WE FEEL,

00:14:23.800 --> 00:14:26.066
WE HAVE AN ALIGNMENT
EVEN IN OUR CALLING

00:14:26.166 --> 00:14:26.700
THAT WE FEEL LIKE GOD


00:14:26.800 --> 00:14:27.666
HAS CALLED US TO DO.


00:14:27.766 --> 00:14:30.566
AND I THINK I
JUST HAVE TO --

00:14:30.666 --> 00:14:31.333
THERE'S LIKE SO
MANY DIRECTIONS

00:14:31.433 --> 00:14:32.333
I WANT TO GO.


00:14:32.433 --> 00:14:33.166
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS
I ACTUALLY WANT TO

00:14:33.266 --> 00:14:34.266
COMMEND YOU ON AND I FEEL,


00:14:34.366 --> 00:14:36.666
I KIND OF WANT YOU TO
SPEAK TO IS ONE OF THINGS

00:14:36.766 --> 00:14:38.033
I LOVED ABOUT YOU IS


00:14:38.133 --> 00:14:40.433
YOU WERE SO
INTENTIONAL ABOUT

00:14:40.533 --> 00:14:43.300
I AM GOING TO PURSUE
TO GET MARRIED.

00:14:43.400 --> 00:14:46.366
AND I THINK SO MANY GUYS JUST
LIKE DATE, DATE, DATE, DATE.

00:14:46.466 --> 00:14:48.766
AND SO CAN YOU SPEAK
TO THAT LIKE WHAT,

00:14:48.866 --> 00:14:49.766
HOW YOU DID THAT,


00:14:49.866 --> 00:14:51.266
WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT
PROCESS AND STUFF?

00:14:51.366 --> 00:14:53.332
JONATHAN: WELL, IT
STARTED OFF PROBABLY

00:14:53.432 --> 00:14:54.933
A LITTLE IMMATURE.


00:14:55.033 --> 00:14:56.266
BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN
I CAME BACK TO THE LORD,

00:14:56.366 --> 00:14:59.133
I WAS LIKE 22.


00:14:59.233 --> 00:15:01.433
REBECCA: YEAH, YOU
WERE 22.

00:15:01.533 --> 00:15:05.299
JONATHAN: AND I REMEMBER
EXACTLY WHERE I WAS AND WHEN I

00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:06.266
STARTED MY LIFE
WITH THE LORD.

00:15:06.366 --> 00:15:07.800
DO YOU KNOW THIS STORY?


00:15:07.900 --> 00:15:09.033
REBECCA: I DON'T THINK SO.


00:15:09.133 --> 00:15:12.799
JONATHAN: AND I HAD JUST
HAD THIS LIKE MOMENT OF

00:15:12.899 --> 00:15:17.433
SURRENDERING TO JESUS AND
LIKE GIVING HIM MY LIFE

00:15:17.533 --> 00:15:19.866
FOR THE FIRST TIME
AS AN ADULT.

00:15:19.966 --> 00:15:20.999
BECAUSE I HAD AN


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ENCOUNTER WHEN I WAS A KID
AND YOU KNOW WALKED AWAY

00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:23.300
FROM THE LORD.


00:15:23.400 --> 00:15:28.299
BUT IN THAT MOMENT, AFTER
LIKE THAT MOMENT HAD PASSED,

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UM, I SAW LIKE THESE GIRLS
WALKING BY IN THE CHURCH

00:15:33.499 --> 00:15:34.466
AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY,


00:15:34.566 --> 00:15:36.766
GOD, NOW THAT I'VE
SURROUNDED MY LIFE TO YOU,

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WHO AM I GOING TO MARRY?


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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JONATHAN: LITERALLY, WAS
LIKE THE CONVERSATION THAT

00:15:40.066 --> 00:15:41.333
I STARTED TO HAVE.


00:15:41.433 --> 00:15:43.966
AND SO I REMEMBER
HE CLEARLY SAID,

00:15:44.066 --> 00:15:47.466
IT WAS ONLY WHEN, UM, OR
WHEN YOU'RE FULLY

00:15:47.566 --> 00:15:48.499
SURRENDERED TO ME,


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I'LL SHOW YOU THE ONE


00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:50.366
I HAVE FOR YOU.


00:15:50.466 --> 00:15:51.733
REBECCA: THAT'S GOOD.


00:15:51.833 --> 00:15:54.566
JONATHAN: WHICH FOR ME WAS LIKE
AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE THAT

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HE BEGAN TO START LIKE,
UH, A RELATIONSHIP WITH

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THE LORD THAT I
CULTIVATED OVER YEARS.

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AND, UM, EVERY TIME I
WAS DATING SOMEBODY OR

00:16:05.466 --> 00:16:08.166
PURSUING SOMEBODY, I WAS
SURRENDERING THAT AND

00:16:08.266 --> 00:16:11.433
POSITIONING THAT BEFORE
HIM AND MAKING SURE THAT I

00:16:11.533 --> 00:16:14.966
WAS IN ACTIVE DIALOGUE
WITH GOD THROUGHOUT IT.

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SO I DON'T REMEMBER
WHAT YOUR QUESTION WAS.

00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:19.400
OH, YEAH.


00:16:19.500 --> 00:16:21.932
REBECCA: OH, JUST THAT YOU
DIDN'T DATE TO DATE.

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JONATHAN: NO, I WAS VERY SERIOUS
FROM THAT MOMENT FROM WHEN

00:16:23.999 --> 00:16:25.499
I WAS 22 ON.


00:16:25.599 --> 00:16:26.666
I NEVER REALLY --


00:16:26.766 --> 00:16:29.866
I MEAN, I DATED, BUT IT WAS
NOT LIKE CASUAL ANYMORE.

00:16:29.966 --> 00:16:31.866
YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE I'M
ONLY GOING TO BE WITH ONE

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PERSON FOR MY LIFE.


00:16:33.400 --> 00:16:36.000
I'M GOING TO HUNT AND
FIND THAT PERSON.

00:16:36.100 --> 00:16:37.500
HUNT IS INTENSE.


00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:38.566
REBECCA: AND TOO


00:16:38.666 --> 00:16:41.799
I THINK FOR ME LIKE IT'S
LIKE I WAS GUARDING MY

00:16:41.899 --> 00:16:44.333
HEART, BUT I HAD LIKE
A NORMAL SOCIAL LIFE.

00:16:44.433 --> 00:16:45.566
YOU KNOW YOU,


00:16:45.666 --> 00:16:46.499
YOU'RE SUPPOSED
TO LIVE YOUR LIFE IN

00:16:46.599 --> 00:16:47.466
COMMUNITY WHETHER
YOU'RE MARRIED,

00:16:47.566 --> 00:16:48.900
WHETHER YOU'RE SINGLE,
WHATEVER.

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REBECCA: DON'T TELL ME YOU
DATED OTHER MEN.

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REBECCA: NO, I'M
NOT SAYING THAT.

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JONATHAN: NOT ON MY
VALENTINE'S DAY EPISODE.

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REBECCA: PEOPLE ARE RELIGIOUS
WHERE THEY'RE LIKE

00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.866
I'M JUST GONNA WAIT, YOU
KNOW, AND IT'S JUST LIKE

00:16:58.966 --> 00:17:03.833
YOU CAN HAVE A COMMUNITY
OF FRIENDS AND LIVE YOUR LIFE.

00:17:03.933 --> 00:17:07.633
YOU KNOW AND SO I'M JUST
TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE LIKE

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YOU TRUST GOD TO
BRING THAT PERSON

00:17:10.266 --> 00:17:11.900
AND YOU GUARD YOUR HEART.


00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.566
BUT YOU ALSO, IT'S
IMPORTANT TO HAVE

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A COMMUNITY OF FRIENDS AND
TO LIVE YOUR LIFE AND NOT

00:17:17.299 --> 00:17:20.366
JUST TO SIT IN SINGLEHOOD AND
WAIT FOR LIFE TO HAPPEN.

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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?


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JONATHAN: UH-HUH.


00:17:22.299 --> 00:17:26.200
REBECCA: SO ANYWAYS, LET'S
GO BACK TO THE QUESTIONS.

00:17:26.300 --> 00:17:27.399
OKAY, MY TURN.


00:17:27.499 --> 00:17:28.466
JONATHAN: OKAY, GOOD.


00:17:28.566 --> 00:17:29.532
REBECCA: WHAT'S ONE
MOMENT FROM YOUR DATING

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OR EARLY MARRIAGE


00:17:30.566 --> 00:17:31.600
THAT MAKES YOU
SMILE EVERY TIME

00:17:31.700 --> 00:17:32.999
YOU THINK ABOUT IT?


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JONATHAN: UH, OUR
FIRST HANUKKAH.

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REBECCA: I WAS GONNA SAY THAT.


00:17:36.499 --> 00:17:37.200
JONATHAN: NO WAY.


00:17:37.300 --> 00:17:38.833
REBECCA: I WAS.


00:17:38.933 --> 00:17:40.400
I KID YOU NOT,
ME DANCING IN THE --

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JONATHAN: YEAH.


00:17:41.332 --> 00:17:42.566
REBECCA: AND MAKING THE LATKES.


00:17:42.666 --> 00:17:43.666
THAT WAS SO FUN.


00:17:43.766 --> 00:17:45.033
JONATHAN: HOW WERE WE
GONNA SAY THE SAME ONE.

00:17:45.133 --> 00:17:46.000
THAT'S CRAZY.


00:17:46.100 --> 00:17:46.732
REBECCA: IT REALLY CAME
UP IN MY HEAD.

00:17:46.832 --> 00:17:48.233
JONATHAN: ME TOO.


00:17:48.333 --> 00:17:49.466
THAT'S WEIRD.


00:17:49.566 --> 00:17:50.366
THAT'S WILD.


00:17:50.466 --> 00:17:51.333
REBECCA: THAT WAS
JUST SUCH A FUN --

00:17:51.433 --> 00:17:52.333
JONATHAN: THAT'S SUCH A
RANDOM MOMENT.

00:17:52.433 --> 00:17:53.266
REBECCA: WAS THAT OUR VERY
FIRST HANUKKAH

00:17:53.366 --> 00:17:54.700
AND OUR VERY
FIRST CHRISTMAS?

00:17:54.800 --> 00:17:55.933
THAT WAS SUCH A GOOD ONE.


00:17:56.033 --> 00:17:57.466
JONATHAN: YEAH.


00:17:57.566 --> 00:17:59.166
REBECCA: OH, AND YOU LET
ME GO TO HOBBY LOBBY,

00:17:59.266 --> 00:18:01.299
AND I PICKED OUT
ALL THE DECORATIONS.

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JONATHAN: YEAH, YEAH.


00:18:02.666 --> 00:18:04.866
REBECCA: NOW YOU
LOVE CHRISTMAS.

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JONATHAN: DID I NOT
LOVE IT THEN?

00:18:06.399 --> 00:18:07.166
I WAS WARMING UP TO IT.


00:18:07.266 --> 00:18:08.266
REBECCA: YOU WERE
WARMING UP TO IT.

00:18:08.366 --> 00:18:12.033
I SHOWED YOU THIS THAT
CHRISTMAS CAN BE LIKE FUN

00:18:12.133 --> 00:18:14.066
AND SIGNIFICANT
AND MEANINGFUL.

00:18:14.166 --> 00:18:14.966
JONATHAN: YEAH.


00:18:15.066 --> 00:18:15.832
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:18:15.932 --> 00:18:16.299
JONATHAN: I HAD BEEN
GETTING COAL

00:18:16.399 --> 00:18:16.766
ALL MY LIFE.


00:18:16.866 --> 00:18:17.266
SO I NEVER --


00:18:17.366 --> 00:18:20.566
[ LAUGHTER ]


00:18:20.666 --> 00:18:21.633
JONATHAN: HOW DO YOU MEET MEN


00:18:21.733 --> 00:18:23.966
WHO ARE GENUINE
IN THE FAITH?

00:18:24.066 --> 00:18:25.466
REBECCA: OH, GOSH.


00:18:25.566 --> 00:18:26.833
JONATHAN: LOVE FROM SCOTLAND.


00:18:26.933 --> 00:18:28.032
OH, SHOUTOUT MY
OTHER HOMELAND.

00:18:28.132 --> 00:18:30.366
REBECCA: OH, SCOTLAND,
THAT'S SO COOL.

00:18:30.466 --> 00:18:31.266
SHOUT OUT TO --


00:18:31.366 --> 00:18:33.732
OH, WE DON'T KNOW WHO
SENT IT IN.

00:18:33.832 --> 00:18:34.599
COMMENT DOWN BELOW


00:18:34.699 --> 00:18:36.533
FROM WHERE YOU'RE
WATCHING FROM.

00:18:36.633 --> 00:18:37.599
JONATHAN: ESPECIALLY IF
YOU'RE IN SCOTLAND.

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I'VE BEEN TO SCOTLAND,
BECAUSE I HAVE FAMILY

00:18:39.266 --> 00:18:42.099
THERE AND IT'S SUCH
A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

00:18:42.199 --> 00:18:43.066
I'D LOVE TO TAKE
YOU SOMETIME...

00:18:43.166 --> 00:18:44.333
REBECCA: I KNOW, I
WANT TO GO ONE DAY.

00:18:44.433 --> 00:18:47.833
JONATHAN: BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE
BEAUTIFUL AND REALLY JUST

00:18:47.933 --> 00:18:50.132
LIKE WHIMSICAL AND KIND
OF EPIC BECAUSE

00:18:50.232 --> 00:18:51.700
THERE'S LIKE CASTLES
EVERYWHERE.

00:18:51.800 --> 00:18:52.600
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:18:52.700 --> 00:18:55.766
JONATHAN: UM, HOW DO YOU
MEET MEN

00:18:55.866 --> 00:18:57.300
WHO ARE GENUINE
IN THE FAITH?

00:18:57.400 --> 00:18:59.200
HOW DO YOU MEET MEN


00:18:59.300 --> 00:19:00.733
WHO ARE GENUINE?


00:19:00.833 --> 00:19:04.433
REBECCA: OKAY, SO...


00:19:04.533 --> 00:19:05.732
JONATHAN: DIDN'T YOU
ALREADY ANSWER THAT?

00:19:05.832 --> 00:19:08.733
REBECCA: THAT IS SUCH A LAYERED
QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S LIKE

00:19:08.833 --> 00:19:10.932
EVERYONE SAYS GO TO
CHURCH, BUT YOU GOT TO BE

00:19:11.032 --> 00:19:13.366
CAREFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE
SOME WOLVES IN THE CHURCH.

00:19:13.466 --> 00:19:14.300
JONATHAN: I WOULD
SAY GO TO CHURCH,

00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:15.432
BUT WALK WITH DISCERNMENT.


00:19:15.532 --> 00:19:19.066
REBECCA: EXACTLY AND I WOULD
SAY TEST THE CHARACTERS.

00:19:19.166 --> 00:19:21.099
SEE HOW THEY TREAT
THEIR MOTHERS.

00:19:21.199 --> 00:19:22.532
SEE HOW THEY TREAT
OTHER PEOPLE.

00:19:22.632 --> 00:19:25.766
NOT JUST HOW
THEY TREAT YOU, KEY.

00:19:25.866 --> 00:19:30.333
UM, SEE HOW THEY
HANDLE HARDSHIP.

00:19:30.433 --> 00:19:31.699
I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW,


00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:33.800
IT'S VERY EASY TO PUT ON A
FRONT AND SO I JUST WANT

00:19:33.900 --> 00:19:35.932
TO SAY BE CAREFUL BECAUSE
THERE'S INCREDIBLE PEOPLE

00:19:36.032 --> 00:19:37.999
IN CHURCH, BUT THERE'S
ALSO WOLVES IN CHURCH,

00:19:38.099 --> 00:19:39.833
THERE'S ALSO DEMONIZED
PEOPLE IN CHURCH.

00:19:39.933 --> 00:19:40.932
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE
TOO DEEP.

00:19:41.032 --> 00:19:43.166
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY,
YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL.

00:19:43.266 --> 00:19:44.799
BUT LIKE WE SAID, IF
YOU'RE WALKING WITH

00:19:44.899 --> 00:19:46.999
THE HOLY SPIRIT DAY BY DAY,


00:19:47.099 --> 00:19:49.866
GOD IS GOING TO GIVE YOU
A PEACE AND HE'S GOING TO

00:19:49.966 --> 00:19:51.032
MAKE IT CLEAR.


00:19:51.132 --> 00:19:51.900
JONATHAN: AND YOU HAVE
ACCOUNTABILITY IN YOUR LIFE.

00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:52.933
LIKE BOTH OF US,


00:19:53.033 --> 00:19:55.266
WHEN WE WERE DATING
JUST FROM OUR PRACTICAL

00:19:55.366 --> 00:19:56.466
STANDPOINT LIKE
YOU SUBMITTED

00:19:56.566 --> 00:19:58.666
TO YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER.


00:19:58.766 --> 00:19:59.966
I SUBMITTED TO MY
MOTHER AND FATHER.

00:20:00.066 --> 00:20:02.133
HEY, WE ARE PURSUING
ONE ANOTHER.

00:20:02.233 --> 00:20:03.433
WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT THIS PERSON?

00:20:03.533 --> 00:20:04.633
YOU KNOW?


00:20:04.733 --> 00:20:06.166
AND WE DID THAT VERY EARLY
ON BECAUSE I HAD DONE THAT

00:20:06.266 --> 00:20:07.699
WITH OTHER GIRLS TOO.


00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:10.899
YOU KNOW AND MY PARENTS
WERE CLEAR LIKE I DON'T

00:20:10.999 --> 00:20:12.333
THINK THAT THAT WOULD
BE A GOOD FIT FOR YOU.

00:20:12.433 --> 00:20:14.766
YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE
GIVES US DIRECTIONS

00:20:14.866 --> 00:20:15.899
TO KIND OF FOLLOW IT.


00:20:15.999 --> 00:20:17.700
YOU KNOW, IT SAYS HONOR
YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER.

00:20:17.800 --> 00:20:19.132
REBECCA: THERE'S A WAY,
THERE'S BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES,

00:20:19.232 --> 00:20:21.600
THERE'S A WAY AND WE HONOR
THAT IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.

00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:22.466
THE OTHER THING


00:20:22.566 --> 00:20:23.566
I WOULD SAY IS
ONE OF THE THINGS.

00:20:23.666 --> 00:20:30.433
THAT'S SET YOU APART FROM
OTHER PEOPLE WAS, UM,

00:20:30.533 --> 00:20:31.133
WHAT WAS I GOING TO SAY?


00:20:31.233 --> 00:20:32.200
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SET


00:20:32.300 --> 00:20:34.299
YOU APART FROM OTHER GUYS
AND I DIDN'T REALLY

00:20:34.399 --> 00:20:38.366
DATE, BUT LIKE I HAD GUY
FRIENDS, WAS YOU WERE ONE

00:20:38.466 --> 00:20:40.166
OF THE -- AND THEY WERE
GOOD CHRISTIAN GUYS.

00:20:40.266 --> 00:20:42.833
BUT YOU WERE ONE OF
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT,

00:20:42.933 --> 00:20:44.799
IT'S LIKE A LOT OF GUYS
WOULD TELL ME ABOUT LIKE

00:20:44.899 --> 00:20:46.666
WHAT GOD HAD SHOWED
THEM OR THEY WOULD TALK

00:20:46.766 --> 00:20:48.199
AND TALK AND TALK
ABOUT THEMSELVES.

00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:49.699
BUT YOU WERE LIKE ONE OF
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WAS

00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.299
LIKE WHAT IS GOD SHOWING
YOU AND IT'S LIKE YOU

00:20:53.399 --> 00:20:56.132
WANTED TO GET TO KNOW ME
AND YOU ASKED THINGS, YOU

00:20:56.232 --> 00:20:58.433
ASKED FOR MY PERSPECTIVE
AND MY VIEWPOINT AND THAT

00:20:58.533 --> 00:20:59.666
WAS JUST SO HONORING.


00:20:59.766 --> 00:21:00.932
JONATHAN: I STILL DO.


00:21:01.032 --> 00:21:05.266
REBECCA: YOU DO AND YOU'RE
GOOD TO YOUR MOM AND YOUR DAD.

00:21:05.366 --> 00:21:06.300
THAT'S REALLY BIG


00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:07.533
HOW YOU TREAT
YOUR PARENTS.

00:21:07.633 --> 00:21:09.299
YOU KNOW, HOW YOU TREAT
OTHER PEOPLE AND WE WENT

00:21:09.399 --> 00:21:13.499
THROUGH LIKE OUR
RELATIONSHIP WASN'T EASY.

00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:15.732
WE WENT THROUGH SOME
HARDSHIP, YOU KNOW AND I

00:21:15.832 --> 00:21:17.466
THINK THAT'S GOOD TOO
BECAUSE YOU GET TO SEE

00:21:17.566 --> 00:21:19.733
WHAT THIS PERSON IS
LIKE IN HARDSHIP.

00:21:19.833 --> 00:21:21.966
SO DON'T LOOK, DON'T PUT
YOUR NOSE DOWN ON THAT.

00:21:22.066 --> 00:21:23.200
LIKE, YOU KNOW,


00:21:23.300 --> 00:21:25.066
WE WERE LIVING ON TWO DIFFERENT
SIDES OF THE COUNTRY.

00:21:25.166 --> 00:21:27.833
AND WE FOUND, WE FOLLOWED
GOD'S DIRECTION

00:21:27.933 --> 00:21:28.966
AND YOU ENDED UP HERE.


00:21:29.066 --> 00:21:31.166
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS
HARD, BUT THAT WAS

00:21:31.266 --> 00:21:32.333
ACTUALLY ONE OF THE
COOLEST PARTS OF OUR

00:21:32.433 --> 00:21:35.499
RELATIONSHIP IS REMEMBER
LIKE WE WERE BELIEVING GOD

00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:37.466
FOR LIKE A PLACE FOR YOU
TO STAY HERE AND LIKE

00:21:37.566 --> 00:21:39.333
BECAUSE IT MOVED SO
QUICK AND GOD OPENED UP

00:21:39.433 --> 00:21:40.432
ALL THOSE DOORS.


00:21:40.532 --> 00:21:42.066
IT WAS SUCH A COOL LIKE
FAITH-BUILDING MOMENT

00:21:42.166 --> 00:21:43.732
IN OUR LIVES.


00:21:43.832 --> 00:21:44.600
I LOVED IT.


00:21:44.700 --> 00:21:46.733
WE WOULD PRAY THAT NIGHT.


00:21:46.833 --> 00:21:47.733
AND THEN LIKE
THE NEXT DAY,

00:21:47.833 --> 00:21:48.866
WE WOULD HAVE A
BREAKTHROUGH AND IT WAS

00:21:48.966 --> 00:21:50.032
JUST LIKE BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.


00:21:50.132 --> 00:21:50.933
JONATHAN: IT STILL
HAPPENS TODAY.

00:21:51.033 --> 00:21:52.399
REMEMBER IT HAPPENED TODAY?


00:21:52.499 --> 00:21:53.366
IT WAS SOMETHING
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,

00:21:53.466 --> 00:21:54.733
BUT LIKE IN OUR LIVES.


00:21:54.833 --> 00:21:56.066
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:21:56.166 --> 00:21:56.933
JONATHAN: WE PRAYED LAST NIGHT
AND HAD A BREAKTHROUGH TODAY.

00:21:57.033 --> 00:21:57.600
REBECCA: YES, THAT'S TRUE.


00:21:57.700 --> 00:21:58.233
JONATHAN: YEAH.


00:21:58.333 --> 00:21:59.499
REBECCA: OH, I LOVE IT.


00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:03.100
AND THIS IS WHY I LOVE HAVING
SOMEONE THAT HAS THEIR OWN

00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.233
WALK WITH THE LORD.


00:22:04.333 --> 00:22:06.200
I LOVE BEING MARRIED TO
SOMEONE THAT CAN HEAR GOD

00:22:06.300 --> 00:22:09.899
FOR THEMSELVES LIKE THAT
IS JUST -- I CANNOT SAY NOT

00:22:09.999 --> 00:22:12.599
ONLY HEARS GOD, BUT
SUBMITS TO GOD AND HAS

00:22:12.699 --> 00:22:16.632
WISDOM THAT IS JUST I'M SO
THANKFUL FOR THAT, THAT YOU

00:22:16.732 --> 00:22:19.533
ARE LEADING OUR FAMILY,
LEADING OUR MARRIAGE.

00:22:19.633 --> 00:22:20.633
SO, THANK YOU.


00:22:20.733 --> 00:22:22.133
JONATHAN: YOU'RE WELCOME.


00:22:22.233 --> 00:22:24.932
WHAT ARE WAYS Y'ALL
PRAY AND STUDY GOD'S WORD

00:22:25.032 --> 00:22:27.700
TOGETHER AS A COUPLE IN
THE SEASON WITH KIDS?

00:22:27.800 --> 00:22:29.699
REBECCA: OH, IT'S SO HARD.


00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:30.766
JONATHAN: I LAUGH
BECAUSE AT FIRST,

00:22:30.866 --> 00:22:31.799
I WAS LIKE I
DON'T THINK WE DO.

00:22:31.899 --> 00:22:34.166
BUT THEN I REALIZED WHAT
WE DO IS WE BOTH ARE

00:22:34.266 --> 00:22:36.900
SENDING EACH OTHER
VERSES THAT WE GET

00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:37.800
TO ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER.


00:22:37.900 --> 00:22:38.700
REBECCA: YEAH, IN OUR
QUIET TIMES.

00:22:38.800 --> 00:22:39.766
JONATHAN: YEAH.


00:22:39.866 --> 00:22:42.199
BUT THEN ALSO IF EITHER
ONE OF US LISTENS TO

00:22:42.299 --> 00:22:45.066
A MESSAGE OR AN EXHORTATION
OR A PODCAST OR SOMETHING

00:22:45.166 --> 00:22:46.366
THAT HAS LIKE
A NUGGET IN IT,

00:22:46.466 --> 00:22:49.733
WE TRY AND SEND THAT
TO ONE OTHER AS WELL.

00:22:49.833 --> 00:22:52.799
AND THEN WE COME TOGETHER
AT LEAST ONCE A DAY.

00:22:52.899 --> 00:22:55.566
IT'S NOT LIKE -- WE'RE NOT
VERY FORMAL WITH THIS LIKE --

00:22:55.666 --> 00:22:56.299
REBECCA: NO.


00:22:56.399 --> 00:22:57.433
JONATHAN: WE'RE NOT THIS IS


00:22:57.533 --> 00:23:01.233
THE TIME THAT WE SHALL MEET,
WE QUOTE A PASSAGE.

00:23:01.333 --> 00:23:03.533
YOU KNOW, WE JUST MEET UP
EITHER IN THE MORNING,

00:23:03.633 --> 00:23:04.733
SOMETIMES IT'S IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE DAY.

00:23:04.833 --> 00:23:05.866
SOMETIMES IT'S AT NIGHT.


00:23:05.966 --> 00:23:10.199
IT'S LIKE AND WE'RE OFTEN
BRINGING TO ONE ANOTHER

00:23:10.299 --> 00:23:12.933
EITHER SOMETHING GOD SHOWN
ONE OF US OR SOMETHING

00:23:13.033 --> 00:23:14.066
THAT'S GOING ON


00:23:14.166 --> 00:23:16.999
THAT'S HARD IN OUR DAY OR
AND WE JUST USE THAT AS A

00:23:17.099 --> 00:23:21.366
MOMENT TO FIND GOD AND SEEK
HIM AND PRAY TOGETHER.

00:23:21.466 --> 00:23:22.566
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:23:22.666 --> 00:23:25.333
JONATHAN: AND SO I WOULD SAY
THAT IT'S VERY ORGANIC.

00:23:25.433 --> 00:23:27.899
I DON'T WANT TO SOUND TOO
LIKE TRENDY, BUT LIKE THE

00:23:27.999 --> 00:23:28.666
WAY THAT WE DO IT


00:23:28.766 --> 00:23:31.099
IS KIND OF NATURAL.


00:23:31.199 --> 00:23:32.866
AND BECAUSE YOU AND I BOTH,


00:23:32.966 --> 00:23:35.699
AND WE FIGURED THIS OUT
EARLIER ON IN DATING,

00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.699
WE BOTH WERE PURSUANT OF
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE

00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:40.599
LORD FIRST AND FOREMOST.


00:23:40.699 --> 00:23:42.999
BECAUSE WE'RE BOTH DOING THAT,


00:23:43.099 --> 00:23:46.800
WE KIND OF MEET
IN THAT SPOT OFTEN.

00:23:46.900 --> 00:23:48.699
REBECCA: YEAH, I
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.199
IS THAT IT IS MORE
ORGANIC, BUT YOU AND I, WE

00:23:52.299 --> 00:23:55.400
BOTH PRIORITIZE SPENDING
TIME WITH GOD LIKE BEING

00:23:55.500 --> 00:23:56.533
IN THE SECRET PLACE.


00:23:56.633 --> 00:23:57.666
AND THEN THE STUFF
THAT GOD

00:23:57.766 --> 00:24:00.300
SHOWS US FROM OUR OWN
PRAYER LIFE, WE SHARE.

00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:01.266
AND I FEEL LIKE ONE
OF THE THINGS WE

00:24:01.366 --> 00:24:02.766
MAJORLY DO WITH ONE
ANOTHER IS

00:24:02.866 --> 00:24:05.232
WE ARE CONSTANTLY ENCOURAGING
THE OTHER PERSON.

00:24:05.332 --> 00:24:07.332
WE'RE SO WE'RE PROCESSING
LIFE AND SO I'LL COME TO

00:24:07.432 --> 00:24:08.133
YOU AND I'M LIKE,


00:24:08.233 --> 00:24:09.333
OH, THIS, THIS THIS,
AND THIS.

00:24:09.433 --> 00:24:10.300
AND YOU'LL ALWAYS COME


00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:11.533
WITH A WORD OF
ENCOURAGEMENT FOR ME OR

00:24:11.633 --> 00:24:13.532
YOU'LL COME TO ME IF
YOU'RE STRUGGLING OR IF

00:24:13.632 --> 00:24:15.733
SOMETHING'S DIFFICULT AND
THEN I TRY TO BRING A WORD

00:24:15.833 --> 00:24:16.766
OF ENCOURAGEMENT FOR YOU.


00:24:16.866 --> 00:24:18.199
SO THAT'S A HUGE THING
WE DO IN OUR MARRIAGE.

00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:20.432
PRAYER IS A HUGE THING THAT
WE DO IN OUR MARRIAGE.

00:24:20.532 --> 00:24:21.900
AND THEN ONE OF THE NEW
THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING

00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.099
IS ON SHABBAT,


00:24:24.199 --> 00:24:26.066
WE'RE LIGHTING THE CANDLES,
INVITING GOD'S PRESENCE

00:24:26.166 --> 00:24:27.500
INTO OUR HOME.


00:24:27.600 --> 00:24:28.699
THAT'S A NEW THING
THAT WE'RE DOING.

00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:29.400
JONATHAN: WHICH IS
FUNNY BECAUSE...

00:24:29.500 --> 00:24:30.333
REBECCA: I REALLY LOVE IT.


00:24:30.433 --> 00:24:31.200
JONATHAN: WE'VE ALWAYS
DONE IT SINCE

00:24:31.300 --> 00:24:32.166
WE GOT MARRIED.


00:24:32.266 --> 00:24:33.432
REBECCA: WE HAVE, BUT
NOT CONSISTENTLY.

00:24:33.532 --> 00:24:35.532
JONATHAN: WE'RE SETTING LIKE A
NEW FRAMEWORK SPECIFICALLY

00:24:35.632 --> 00:24:38.199
BECAUSE OUR KIDS ARE AT
THAT AGE NOW WHERE THEY'RE

00:24:38.299 --> 00:24:40.933
FORMING THEIR FORMATIVE
MEMORIES AND WE WANT THEM

00:24:41.033 --> 00:24:42.466
TO BE RAISED IN A HOME
WHERE THEY HAVE AN

00:24:42.566 --> 00:24:44.932
UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR
JEWISHNESS AS IT RELATES

00:24:45.032 --> 00:24:46.666
TO RELATIONSHIP WITH
JESUS.

00:24:46.766 --> 00:24:48.032
AND SO WE'RE DOING SHABBAT


00:24:48.132 --> 00:24:49.433
IN THE HOME, LIGHTING
THE CANDLES, SAYING THE

00:24:49.533 --> 00:24:52.600
BLESSINGS AND LIKE LETTING
THAT MOMENT OF US COMING

00:24:52.700 --> 00:24:55.632
TOGETHER AS A FAMILY
BEING CENTERED AROUND GOD

00:24:55.732 --> 00:24:56.666
AND HIS PRESENCE.


00:24:56.766 --> 00:24:58.133
REBECCA: AND, WELL, THIS
IS THE THING

00:24:58.233 --> 00:24:59.699
THAT WE ARE GOD'S PEOPLE


00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:03.466
AND GOD CREATED
SHABBAT LIKE

00:25:03.566 --> 00:25:06.166
IT'S A PART OF LIKE
THE KINGDOM CULTURE.

00:25:06.266 --> 00:25:07.933
IT'S A PART OF
LIKE THE LIFESTYLE

00:25:08.033 --> 00:25:10.433
HE'S CALLING US TO THAT
AT ONE TIME OF THE WEEK,

00:25:10.533 --> 00:25:13.633
WE ARE INVITING GOD'S
PRESENCE INTO THE HOME AND

00:25:13.733 --> 00:25:14.966
THEN WE REST IN HIM.


00:25:15.066 --> 00:25:16.566
LIKE GOD
CREATED THE WORLD

00:25:16.666 --> 00:25:19.700
IN SIX DAYS AND THEN HE
RESTED AND SO IT'S SHOWING

00:25:19.800 --> 00:25:20.766
THAT WE WORKED.


00:25:20.866 --> 00:25:22.299
JONATHAN: AND HE GAVE US
THAT FORMAT, EXACTLY.

00:25:22.399 --> 00:25:24.499
REBECCA: EXACTLY, AND SO IT'S
SO IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND

00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:27.733
REST AND ESPECIALLY IN
SUCH A BUSY WORLD WHERE

00:25:27.833 --> 00:25:28.933
EVERYTHING IS FIGHTING
FOR OUR ATTENTION.

00:25:29.033 --> 00:25:30.399
JONATHAN: JUST TURN
THE PHONE OFF.

00:25:30.499 --> 00:25:31.699
REBECCA: PUT THE PHONES DOWN.


00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:33.100
AND WHEN WE SAT AND WE


00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:34.332
LISTENED TO WORSHIP MUSIC,


00:25:34.432 --> 00:25:37.600
I FELT GOD'S PRESENCE SO
STRONG AND THE KIDS JUST

00:25:37.700 --> 00:25:39.600
KIND OF GET TO BE KIDS,
THEY PLAY AND STUFF, BUT

00:25:39.700 --> 00:25:41.166
THEY ARE TAKING
THAT IN.

00:25:41.266 --> 00:25:42.032
JONATHAN: YES.


00:25:42.132 --> 00:25:43.099
REBECCA: AND IT'S
JUST BEAUTIFUL.

00:25:43.199 --> 00:25:44.599
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW,
I LOVE GOING TO CHURCH

00:25:44.699 --> 00:25:46.033
AND CHURCH IS SO IMPORTANT.


00:25:46.133 --> 00:25:49.166
AND I WILL ALWAYS LIKE
SUPPORT THAT, BUT YOU HAVE

00:25:49.266 --> 00:25:50.966
TO DO IT IN YOUR OWN HOME.


00:25:51.066 --> 00:25:52.933
AND THAT IS A --


00:25:53.033 --> 00:25:54.766
I WOULD SAY THEY'RE
BOTH IMPORTANT,

00:25:54.866 --> 00:25:58.199
BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT
IT'S MODELED IN YOUR HOME.

00:25:58.299 --> 00:25:59.033
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?


00:25:59.133 --> 00:26:00.233
JONATHAN: YOU HAVE
TO DO BOTH.

00:26:00.333 --> 00:26:02.200
REBECCA: YOU HAVE TO DO BOTH
LIKE AND SO THAT'S WHAT

00:26:02.300 --> 00:26:05.766
WE'RE DOING THROUGH THAT.


00:26:05.866 --> 00:26:06.666
JONATHAN: I THINK
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO,

00:26:06.766 --> 00:26:07.732
BUT I DO HAVE A GOOD ONE.


00:26:07.832 --> 00:26:08.800
REBECCA: WELL, I FEEL
LIKE WE'VE ALREADY --

00:26:08.900 --> 00:26:09.332
HOW DO YOU KNOW


00:26:09.432 --> 00:26:10.300
GOD SENT JONATHAN?


00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:11.333
WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT --


00:26:11.433 --> 00:26:12.266
JONATHAN: LET'S TALK
ABOUT IT AGAIN.

00:26:12.366 --> 00:26:12.933
I'M JUST KIDDING.


00:26:13.033 --> 00:26:13.866
ALL RIGHT, HOW DID WE --


00:26:13.966 --> 00:26:15.232
REBECCA: JONATHAN IS AMAZING.


00:26:15.332 --> 00:26:17.866
I REMEMBER WHEN
I WAS DATING HIM.

00:26:17.966 --> 00:26:20.066
THIS IS SO NOT WHAT HE
WOULD WANT ME TO SAY, BUT I

00:26:20.166 --> 00:26:22.133
REMEMBERED HAVING A
CONVERSATION WITH MY MOM

00:26:22.233 --> 00:26:25.333
AND WE WERE JUST BOTH
IN AWE OF THE PERSON YOU ARE.

00:26:25.433 --> 00:26:28.833
AND REALLY SO BLESSED
THAT WE WERE IN A

00:26:28.933 --> 00:26:34.766
RELATIONSHIP AND YOU WERE
ABOVE WHAT I EVEN EXPECTED.

00:26:34.866 --> 00:26:35.833
AND THAT'S HOW GOD IS.


00:26:35.933 --> 00:26:38.133
HE GIVES, YOU KNOW,
FAR BEYOND

00:26:38.233 --> 00:26:39.833
WHAT WE CAN ASK OR THINK.


00:26:39.933 --> 00:26:41.399
AND SO THAT'S WHAT HE DID


00:26:41.499 --> 00:26:44.732
WITH YOU AND I STILL FEEL
THIS WAY AND YOU'VE ONLY

00:26:44.832 --> 00:26:48.100
GROWN INTO A MORE
INCREDIBLE MAN OF GOD AND

00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:49.133
SO I LOVE YOU.


00:26:49.233 --> 00:26:50.132
JONATHAN: YOU MAKE MY
HEART FLUTTER.

00:26:50.232 --> 00:26:51.433
REBECCA: OH, WELL, I LOVE YOU.


00:26:51.533 --> 00:26:52.199
YOU'RE AMAZING.


00:26:52.299 --> 00:26:53.066
WE REALLY --


00:26:53.166 --> 00:26:55.366
WE HAD THAT
CONVERSATION, TEAM.

00:26:55.466 --> 00:26:57.600
WE HAD IT IN BRAZIL.


00:26:57.700 --> 00:26:58.833
WE HAD IT IN BRAZIL.


00:26:58.933 --> 00:26:59.600
OUR WHOLE TEAM


00:26:59.700 --> 00:27:00.799
IS FROM BRAZIL.


00:27:00.899 --> 00:27:04.232
I HAD IT IN BRAZIL IN
RIO, ME AND MY MOM.

00:27:04.332 --> 00:27:05.100
I WENT TO BRAZIL.


00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:05.966
JONATHAN: WOW, LOOK AT
THAT.

00:27:06.066 --> 00:27:06.999
REBECCA: SO I WENT TO BRAZIL


00:27:07.099 --> 00:27:08.199
TWO PIVOTAL TIMES IN
OUR RELATIONSHIP WHEN

00:27:08.299 --> 00:27:09.499
WE FIRST STARTED DATING


00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:10.466
AND THEN RIGHT AFTER
WE GOT ENGAGED.

00:27:10.566 --> 00:27:12.599
JONATHAN: SUGAR MOUNTAIN OR
SOMETHING.

00:27:12.699 --> 00:27:14.500
SUGAR LOVE.


00:27:14.600 --> 00:27:15.833
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.


00:27:15.933 --> 00:27:17.466
REBECCA: COMMENT DOWN BELOW
IF YOU KNOW WHAT SUGAR LOVE IS.

00:27:17.566 --> 00:27:18.500
I'M JUST KIDDING.


00:27:18.600 --> 00:27:19.999
JONATHAN: NO ONE UNDERSTOOD
WHAT YOU SAID.

00:27:20.099 --> 00:27:22.166
BUT, YEAH, I DO REMEMBER
YOU GOING ON THAT TRIP AND

00:27:22.266 --> 00:27:24.599
THAT WAS COOL TRIP BECAUSE
YOU WERE MINISTERING.

00:27:24.699 --> 00:27:27.766
AND WHAT'S SO FUNNY IS NOW
TO THIS DAY THE PERSON

00:27:27.866 --> 00:27:29.300
THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING
HAS BECOME ONE OF

00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:30.166
MY GOOD FRIENDS.


00:27:30.266 --> 00:27:30.999
REBECCA: WE'RE FRIENDS
WITH THEM.

00:27:31.099 --> 00:27:32.400
I KNOW IT'S ONE OF
THOSE COOL GOD

00:27:32.500 --> 00:27:33.533
FULL CIRCLE MOMENTS.


00:27:33.633 --> 00:27:34.332
JONATHAN: OKAY.


00:27:34.432 --> 00:27:35.266
REBECCA: OH, WAIT.


00:27:35.366 --> 00:27:36.266
I DON'T THINK I EVER
ASKED MY THING.

00:27:36.366 --> 00:27:36.966
JONATHAN: I HAVE A GOOD
QUESTION FOR YOU.

00:27:37.066 --> 00:27:38.400
I WANT YOU TO ANSWER THIS.


00:27:38.500 --> 00:27:38.799
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:27:38.899 --> 00:27:39.766
YOU GO.


00:27:39.866 --> 00:27:40.833
JONATHAN: NO, YOU HAVE
THAT, GO AHEAD.

00:27:40.933 --> 00:27:41.466
REBECCA: NO, I
WANT HEAR YOUR --

00:27:41.566 --> 00:27:42.400
JONATHAN: I DEFER.


00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:43.399
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:27:43.499 --> 00:27:45.599
WHAT DO YOU
AND YOUR HUSBAND --

00:27:45.699 --> 00:27:47.632
WHAT DO YOU DO FOR YOU


00:27:47.732 --> 00:27:50.032
AND YOUR HUSBAND
TO HAVE A GETAWAY?

00:27:50.132 --> 00:27:51.300
JONATHAN: WELL --


00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:52.100
REBECCA: I WANTED
A SECOND.

00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:53.666
JONATHAN: IT'S BEEN
A MINUTE.

00:27:53.766 --> 00:27:54.732
REBECCA: LOTS OF BABIES.


00:27:54.832 --> 00:27:55.400
JONATHAN: BUT WHAT WE
WERE DOING EARLIER ON

00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:57.366
IN OUR MARRIAGE,


00:27:57.466 --> 00:27:57.899
PRETEND LIKE
WE'VE DONE IT

00:27:57.999 --> 00:27:59.733
THE WHOLE TIME IS


00:27:59.833 --> 00:28:04.566
WE WOULD DO A QUARTERLY
CONNECT MOMENT,

00:28:04.666 --> 00:28:07.433
WHICH WOULD BE LIKE
A WEEKEND TOGETHER.

00:28:07.533 --> 00:28:09.233
REBECCA: YEAH, I THINK IT WAS
MORE LIKE YEARLY, RIGHT?

00:28:09.333 --> 00:28:10.333
JONATHAN: NO, YEARLY,


00:28:10.433 --> 00:28:12.333
WE WOULD GO AWAY FOR AN
EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

00:28:12.433 --> 00:28:14.500
GRANTED, WE STARTED
HAVING KIDS RIGHT AWAY.

00:28:14.600 --> 00:28:18.366
SO IT'S CHANGED
AND IT HAS EVOLVED

00:28:18.466 --> 00:28:20.899
AND NOW WE'RE SUPER
OVERDUE FOR ONE.

00:28:20.999 --> 00:28:22.066
REBECCA: WE ARE OVERDUE FOR
A MARRIAGE RETREAT.

00:28:22.166 --> 00:28:24.966
JONATHAN: WE'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT IT FOR LIKE

00:28:25.066 --> 00:28:28.166
18 MONTHS AND HAVE WE DONE
ANYTHING IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME?

00:28:28.266 --> 00:28:29.599
REBECCA: NO, BUT
WE'RE GOING TO.

00:28:29.699 --> 00:28:30.799
JONATHAN: NO, WE HAVE.


00:28:30.899 --> 00:28:32.100
WE'VE DONE SOME SMALL, SOME
SMALL THINGS WHERE IT'S

00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:33.166
JUST THE TWO OF US.


00:28:33.266 --> 00:28:35.966
BUT IT WAS NOT REALLY TO
INVEST IN ONE ANOTHER.

00:28:36.066 --> 00:28:38.166
WE WERE INVESTING
IN LIKE,

00:28:38.266 --> 00:28:39.666
BUT THE THING THAT
YOU'RE SAYING IS WE WOULD

00:28:39.766 --> 00:28:41.599
INTENTIONALLY HAVE
A MARRIAGE RETREAT.

00:28:41.699 --> 00:28:43.633
WE WOULD INTENTIONALLY
GO AWAY AND SPEND TIME

00:28:43.733 --> 00:28:44.833
TOGETHER AND WE'D
ALSO INTENTIONALLY --

00:28:44.933 --> 00:28:46.733
JONATHAN: WE'RE SO OVERDUE,
I'M FRUSTRATED RIGHT NOW.

00:28:46.833 --> 00:28:48.699
REBECCA: WE WOULD CAST
VISION TOGETHER.

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:50.099
JONATHAN: HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE
FOR US TO BOOK SOMETHING?

00:28:50.199 --> 00:28:50.933
I MEAN --


00:28:51.033 --> 00:28:51.766
REBECCA: PULL OUT
YOUR PHONE.

00:28:51.866 --> 00:28:53.566
BOOK IT RIGHT NOW.


00:28:53.666 --> 00:28:54.499
WELL, I FEEL LIKE WE
HAD TO WAIT TIL

00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:55.599
OUR KIDS WERE SETTLED.


00:28:55.699 --> 00:28:56.799
JONATHAN: THEY'LL
NEVER BE SETTLED.

00:28:56.899 --> 00:28:58.832
REBECCA: WELL, NO, THEY'RE
MORE SETTLED NOW WHEN WE HAD

00:28:58.932 --> 00:29:00.966
LIKE A NEW BABY, BABY,
BABY, WE COULDN'T DO IT.

00:29:01.066 --> 00:29:02.332
BUT NOW, YES.


00:29:02.432 --> 00:29:04.399
JONATHAN: LISTEN, LET'S LET THIS
QUESTION BE THE MOMENT TONIGHT,

00:29:04.499 --> 00:29:05.366
YOU'RE BOOKING IT.


00:29:05.466 --> 00:29:06.200
REBECCA: ACCOUNTABILITY.


00:29:06.300 --> 00:29:07.966
JONATHAN: ALL RIGHT.


00:29:08.066 --> 00:29:10.733
SPEAKING OF ME TELLING
YOU TO DO SOMETHING,

00:29:10.833 --> 00:29:11.766
HOW DO YOU --


00:29:11.866 --> 00:29:12.232
REBECCA: BUT, WAIT,
TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

00:29:12.332 --> 00:29:12.833
WE GET AWAY.


00:29:12.933 --> 00:29:13.599
WE ARE INTENTIONAL.


00:29:13.699 --> 00:29:14.466
WE --


00:29:14.566 --> 00:29:15.432
JONATHAN: WHAT WAS
THE QUESTION?

00:29:15.532 --> 00:29:16.666
REBECCA: WHAT DO WE DO
ON OUR GETAWAY?

00:29:16.766 --> 00:29:18.433
JONATHAN: OH, WE'RE VERY
INTENTIONAL ABOUT THAT.

00:29:18.533 --> 00:29:20.600
REBECCA: AND WE ARE
INTENTIONAL ABOUT DOING IT.

00:29:20.700 --> 00:29:21.933
WE'RE INTENTIONAL
WITH WHAT WE DO.

00:29:22.033 --> 00:29:23.133
AND ONE OF THESE WE JUST


00:29:23.233 --> 00:29:26.033
HAVE FUN TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU,
IT'S WHEN YOU'RE WITH

00:29:26.133 --> 00:29:28.099
YOUR KIDS ALL THE TIME,


00:29:28.199 --> 00:29:29.866
YOU KNOW, THE VIBE IS
DIFFERENT WHEN IT'S JUST

00:29:29.966 --> 00:29:30.799
THE TWO OF YOU.


00:29:30.899 --> 00:29:32.033
AND IT'S JUST EASIER
THAT YOU CAN

00:29:32.133 --> 00:29:34.632
FULLY FOCUS ON THAT
PERSON AND YOU'RE NOT --

00:29:34.732 --> 00:29:36.800
YOUR ATTENTION IS NOT DIVIDED
BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PHASE

00:29:36.900 --> 00:29:38.166
OF LITTLE KIDS.


00:29:38.266 --> 00:29:40.166
YOU KNOW, SO LITTLE KIDS
ARE LIKE DADDY, DADDY,

00:29:40.266 --> 00:29:41.832
MOMMY, MOMMY, MOMMY,
YOU KNOW, AND WE LOVE

00:29:41.932 --> 00:29:43.033
OUR KIDS SO MUCH.


00:29:43.133 --> 00:29:45.266
THEY'RE SUPER CUTE, BUT
WHEN IT'S JUST

00:29:45.366 --> 00:29:46.332
THE TWO OF US,


00:29:46.432 --> 00:29:48.999
IT'S LIKE WE GET TO BE
LIKE JUST FOCUSED ON ONE

00:29:49.099 --> 00:29:51.000
ANOTHER AND WE'RE BOTH
QUALITY TIME PEOPLE.

00:29:51.100 --> 00:29:52.533
SO WE HAVE FUN.


00:29:52.633 --> 00:29:54.233
WE PRAY AND WE SEEK


00:29:54.333 --> 00:29:56.766
GOD'S, WHAT IS GOD TELLING
US AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE

00:29:56.866 --> 00:29:58.299
TRY TO DO IT ONCE A YEAR.


00:29:58.399 --> 00:30:00.533
WHAT ARE YOU TELLING
US FOR THIS YEAR?

00:30:00.633 --> 00:30:01.433
YOU KNOW.


00:30:01.533 --> 00:30:02.266
JONATHAN: WHAT'S
INTERESTING, THOUGH,

00:30:02.366 --> 00:30:03.366
I'LL SAY, THIS IS
THE LAST THING

00:30:03.466 --> 00:30:04.432
I'LL SAY ON THIS TOPIC IS
EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T

00:30:04.532 --> 00:30:05.966
GOTTEN AWAY, AWAY.


00:30:06.066 --> 00:30:07.199
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:30:07.299 --> 00:30:09.799
JONATHAN: WE HAVE FOUND WAYS
TO DO THIS IN THE MIDST OF

00:30:09.899 --> 00:30:13.066
OUR LIVES, BECAUSE WE
CARVE OUT A DATE EVERY

00:30:13.166 --> 00:30:14.900
WEEK AND WE GET TWO --


00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.599
SO WE GET TWO
HOURS UNINTERRUPTED,

00:30:17.699 --> 00:30:18.832
JUST ME AND
YOU EVERY WEEK.

00:30:18.932 --> 00:30:19.733
REBECCA: YES, KEY.


00:30:19.833 --> 00:30:20.533
JONATHAN: WE BRING IN
A BABYSITTER

00:30:20.633 --> 00:30:23.299
AND SO THAT, WELL, GRANTED


00:30:23.399 --> 00:30:25.266
I'M PROBABLY GOING TO
GET SLAUGHTERED IN THE

00:30:25.366 --> 00:30:26.999
COMMENTS, THIS ISN'T A
MARRIAGE RETREAT OR TAKING

00:30:27.099 --> 00:30:30.366
YOUR WIFE AWAY, BUT IT IS
GIVING US A MOMENT OF JUST

00:30:30.466 --> 00:30:31.899
THE TWO OF
US TO CONNECT.

00:30:31.999 --> 00:30:33.299
REBECCA: YOU'VE ALWAYS
PRIORITIZED ME.

00:30:33.399 --> 00:30:34.766
SO YOU DON'T NEED TO GET
SLAUGHTERED IN THE COMMENTS.

00:30:34.866 --> 00:30:36.633
JONATHAN: THANK YOU,
TO CONNECT, TO PLAN,

00:30:36.733 --> 00:30:37.866
TO STRATEGIZE, TO JUST


00:30:37.966 --> 00:30:39.833
BE TOGETHER TO LAUGH, TO
HAVE FUN AND THAT THING IS

00:30:39.933 --> 00:30:43.533
IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU HAVE
TO KEEP LIKE YOUR LOVE ON.

00:30:43.633 --> 00:30:45.599
YOU HAVE TO INVEST IN THE
RELATIONSHIP AND THAT'S

00:30:45.699 --> 00:30:46.933
ONE OF THOSE
WAYS TO DO THAT.

00:30:47.033 --> 00:30:48.299
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.


00:30:48.399 --> 00:30:52.433
JONATHAN: HOW TO BE SUBMITTED
TO YOUR HUSBAND AND HOW TO

00:30:52.533 --> 00:30:54.833
LOVE YOUR WIFE LIKE
CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH?

00:30:54.933 --> 00:30:56.333
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH,
WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY,

00:30:56.433 --> 00:30:57.866
I THOUGHT I WAS ONLY GOING
TO SAY HOW TO BE SUBMITTED

00:30:57.966 --> 00:30:58.766
TO YOUR HUSBAND.


00:30:58.866 --> 00:31:01.199
AND I ALWAYS SAY
THE FULL

00:31:01.299 --> 00:31:04.533
CONTEXT OF THAT VERSE,
WHICH IS WIVES SUBMIT TO

00:31:04.633 --> 00:31:09.266
YOUR HUSBANDS, HUSBANDS
LOVE YOUR WIVES AS CHRIST

00:31:09.366 --> 00:31:12.933
LOVED THE CHURCH AND HE
LAID HIS LIFE DOWN FOR HER.

00:31:13.033 --> 00:31:13.799
JONATHAN: YOU KNOW WHAT?


00:31:13.899 --> 00:31:15.433
AND THERE'S BEEN SO
MANY TIMES,

00:31:15.533 --> 00:31:18.033
NOT SO MANY, BUT PROBABLY
A DOZEN, MAYBE MORE,

00:31:18.133 --> 00:31:19.833
I DON'T KNOW, THAT
I HAVE GONE TO GOD

00:31:19.933 --> 00:31:22.266
IN FRUSTRATION
OVER WHATEVER.

00:31:22.366 --> 00:31:23.533
REBECCA: NO, NOT ME.


00:31:23.633 --> 00:31:26.533
JONATHAN: YES, YOU MAYBE,
SOMEBODY HERE, COULD BE YOU.

00:31:26.633 --> 00:31:30.166
YOU AND HE WOULD
SHOW ME THAT VERSE.

00:31:30.266 --> 00:31:34.966
AND I WOULD FEEL
CONVICTION, BECAUSE THAT

00:31:35.066 --> 00:31:39.599
TYPE OF LOVE, THE ULTIMATE
SACRIFICE, IS LIKE YOU

00:31:39.699 --> 00:31:42.432
CAN'T QUESTION IT, YOU
KNOW AND SO IT'S

00:31:42.532 --> 00:31:45.766
A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE AND A
BEAUTIFUL VERSE THAT WE'VE

00:31:45.866 --> 00:31:49.000
BEEN GIVEN AS MEN
BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY

00:31:49.100 --> 00:31:50.066
NO LIVING UP TO IT.


00:31:50.166 --> 00:31:51.566
YOU CAN NEVER LIVE UP TO
THE SACRIFICE THAT JESUS

00:31:51.666 --> 00:31:53.266
PAID FOR ALL OF US.


00:31:53.366 --> 00:31:56.266
AND SO, UM, IT'S FUNNY


00:31:56.366 --> 00:31:58.800
HOW GOD WILL USE THAT LIKE
AS A GENTLE REMINDER.

00:31:58.900 --> 00:32:01.133
IT'S LIKE THIS
IS THE WAY, SON.

00:32:01.233 --> 00:32:05.366
REBECCA: WELL, YOU CANNOT LOVE
THAT WAY ON YOUR OWN, BUT

00:32:05.466 --> 00:32:08.833
YOU CAN LOVE LIKE THAT,
GOD THROUGH YOU.

00:32:08.933 --> 00:32:09.933
JUST HOW LIKE SOMETIMES


00:32:10.033 --> 00:32:12.199
IT'S DIFFICULT TO FORGIVE
PEOPLE, BUT GOD CAN HELP

00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:14.266
US FORGIVE AND HE
FORGIVES THROUGH US,

00:32:14.366 --> 00:32:15.332
IF THAT MAKES SENSE.


00:32:15.432 --> 00:32:16.666
SO HE GIVES US THE
GRACE AND THE LOVE FOR THE

00:32:16.766 --> 00:32:19.766
ABILITY TO LAY OUR LIVES
DOWN FOR ONE ANOTHER.

00:32:19.866 --> 00:32:22.632
AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION
ABOUT SUBMISSION, THE FULL

00:32:22.732 --> 00:32:25.199
CONTEXT OF THAT VERSE IS
WIVES, SUBMIT TO THEIR

00:32:25.299 --> 00:32:27.599
HUSBANDS, HUSBANDS,
LOVE YOUR WIVES

00:32:27.699 --> 00:32:29.166
AND LAY YOUR LIFE DOWN.


00:32:29.266 --> 00:32:30.466
LOVE YOUR WIVES


00:32:30.566 --> 00:32:32.666
LIKE CHRIST LOVED THE CHURCH
LAYING HIS LIFE DOWN FOR HER.

00:32:32.766 --> 00:32:36.133
AND A LOT OF TIMES
PEOPLE HEAR, WIVES,

00:32:36.233 --> 00:32:37.599
YOU NEED TO SUBMIT
TO YOUR HUSBANDS.

00:32:37.699 --> 00:32:40.833
BUT REALLY WE NEED TO SUBMIT,
BUT BETWEEN THE TWO,

00:32:40.933 --> 00:32:44.166
I SAY THE HUSBAND HAS THE
HARDER ROLE BECAUSE TO BE

00:32:44.266 --> 00:32:47.100
LIKE CHRIST AND TO LAY
YOUR LIFE DOWN FOR HER.

00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.466
JONATHAN: THANK YOU.


00:32:48.566 --> 00:32:51.566
REBECCA: AND SO, YOU KNOW, I,
YOU KNOW, MEN ARE BEING CALLED.

00:32:51.666 --> 00:32:53.600
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE
HEAD OF THE HOME, BUT --

00:32:53.700 --> 00:32:54.633
JONATHAN: ALL YOU HAVE TO
DO IS LISTEN.

00:32:54.733 --> 00:32:55.933
WE HAVE TO LIVE UP TO GOD.


00:32:56.033 --> 00:32:57.233
THAT'S WAY, HARDER.


00:32:57.333 --> 00:33:00.166
JONATHAN: WELL, THE THING IS
THIS IS THAT MEN ARE THE HEAD

00:33:00.266 --> 00:33:02.366
AND SO THE MORE
AUTHORITY YOU HAVE,

00:33:02.466 --> 00:33:04.233
THE GREATER
RESPONSIBILITY YOU HAVE.

00:33:04.333 --> 00:33:06.700
AND SO IT'S SOMETHING TO
BE TAKEN AND

00:33:06.800 --> 00:33:08.566
TO LEAD IS TO SERVE.


00:33:08.666 --> 00:33:11.699
AND SO A HUSBAND
IS SERVING HIS

00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:13.300
WIFE AND SERVING
HIS FAMILY.

00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:14.400
AND THE BEST, ONE OF


00:33:14.500 --> 00:33:16.399
THE BEST DESCRIPTIONS OF
MARRIAGE THAT I'VE EVER

00:33:16.499 --> 00:33:18.866
HEARD AND, WOMEN,


00:33:18.966 --> 00:33:22.599
I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU
TO LOVE YOUR HUSBANDS AND

00:33:22.699 --> 00:33:27.466
PRAY FOR THEM AND GOD WILL
HANDLE THEM AND HE WILL

00:33:27.566 --> 00:33:28.732
SPEAK TO THEM.


00:33:28.832 --> 00:33:31.532
YOU DON'T NEED TO -- THIS IS
NOT GOING TO BE TAKEN WELL.

00:33:31.632 --> 00:33:33.599
BUT THIS IS JUST
MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

00:33:33.699 --> 00:33:37.133
I DON'T, I REALLY FEEL LIKE
IT'S BETTER TO NOT TRY TO

00:33:37.233 --> 00:33:38.633
CORRECT THEM OR TELL THEM


00:33:38.733 --> 00:33:41.466
WHAT TO DO OR COME FROM A
PLACE OF TRYING TO, BUT

00:33:41.566 --> 00:33:44.166
JUST LOVING THEM AND
PRAYING FOR THEM

00:33:44.266 --> 00:33:45.266
AND ALLOWING, YOU KNOW,


00:33:45.366 --> 00:33:46.632
WHEN YOU HAVE A HUSBAND
WHO HEARS FROM THE LORD,

00:33:46.732 --> 00:33:47.733
THE LORD WILL
SHOW THEM THE WAY.

00:33:47.833 --> 00:33:48.733
JUST LIKE YOU SAID,


00:33:48.833 --> 00:33:52.033
GOD HAS BROUGHT YOU TO
THAT VERSE SO THAT'S

00:33:52.133 --> 00:33:54.133
MY ENCOURAGEMENT AND --


00:33:54.233 --> 00:33:54.833
JONATHAN: AND SERVING THEM,


00:33:54.933 --> 00:33:55.799
ONE THING THAT YOU DO


00:33:55.899 --> 00:33:57.966
SO WELL, I LOVE
WHEN YOU DO THIS WELL,

00:33:58.066 --> 00:34:00.800
IS SERVE,


00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:03.700
YOU KNOW, LIKE
MAN'S NUMBER ONE NEED

00:34:03.800 --> 00:34:04.633
I THINK IS RESPECT.


00:34:04.733 --> 00:34:05.766
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:34:05.866 --> 00:34:07.099
JONATHAN: THAT'S DEFINITELY
UP THERE, YOU KNOW.

00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:10.166
AND SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE
WHEN YOU'RE DOING THAT,

00:34:10.266 --> 00:34:11.833
THE OTHER ONE COMES
EASIER AND SO ON.

00:34:11.933 --> 00:34:12.966
AND THEN WHEN I'M
DOING THAT,

00:34:13.066 --> 00:34:14.033
THEN IT COMES EASIER
TO SERVE.

00:34:14.133 --> 00:34:15.133
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE


00:34:15.233 --> 00:34:19.099
IF YOU'RE BOTH WORKING
TOWARDS THAT COMMON GOAL,

00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:20.666
IT'S LIKE YOU MAKE IT
EASIER FOR THE OTHER

00:34:20.766 --> 00:34:22.566
PERSON TO REACH ACROSS THE
AISLE AND MEET YOU THERE.

00:34:22.666 --> 00:34:25.166
REBECCA: AND IF SOMEONE AND
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER LITTLE

00:34:25.266 --> 00:34:26.733
PIECE OF ADVICE.


00:34:26.833 --> 00:34:28.699
JUST APOLOGIZE QUICKLY.


00:34:28.799 --> 00:34:31.033
DON'T DIG YOUR HEELS IN
AND TRY TO BE RIGHT.

00:34:31.133 --> 00:34:32.599
JUST SAY YOU'RE SORRY.


00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:33.666
JONATHAN: THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT MY DAD

00:34:33.766 --> 00:34:35.199
HAS TALKED TO US ABOUT
WHICH I LIKE THE WAY,

00:34:35.299 --> 00:34:37.999
HE SAYS IT'S THE FIRST ONE
TO THE CROSSWINDS LIKE

00:34:38.099 --> 00:34:39.133
IT'S A RACE.


00:34:39.233 --> 00:34:41.099
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A FUN
WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.

00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:42.666
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE
FIRST ONE TO SAY,

00:34:42.766 --> 00:34:45.766
I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW, AND
SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE IN

00:34:45.866 --> 00:34:47.733
THE HEAT OF THE BATTLE AND
ANYONE WHO'S BEEN MARRIED,

00:34:47.833 --> 00:34:49.666
YOU KNOW, LIKE
THERE'S BATTLES.

00:34:49.766 --> 00:34:52.366
IT'S HARD TO LIKE FIND
YOURSELF THERE, BUT WHAT

00:34:52.466 --> 00:34:55.233
YOU AND I HAVE DONE
IS WHEN WE'VE FOUND

00:34:55.333 --> 00:34:57.300
OURSELVES THERE AND WE'VE
GOTTEN TO THE CROSS AND

00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.199
WE'VE MET THERE,


00:34:59.299 --> 00:35:01.132
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
RESOLVE THINGS SO QUICK --

00:35:01.232 --> 00:35:06.333
SO MUCH QUICKLY AND LIKE
WITH EASE AND RESTORE

00:35:06.433 --> 00:35:08.766
WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WAS
THERE, WHATEVER IT CAME IN.

00:35:08.866 --> 00:35:11.166
BECAUSE LIKE LIFE IS HARD
AND YOU'RE ALSO --

00:35:11.266 --> 00:35:13.232
MARRIAGE IS UNDER ATTACK,
FAMILIES ARE UNDER ATTACK.

00:35:13.332 --> 00:35:14.100
THE DEVIL IS REAL.


00:35:14.200 --> 00:35:15.733
SO ALL THESE
THINGS ARE TAKING PLACE.

00:35:15.833 --> 00:35:16.899
YOU HAVE
TO UNDERSTAND

00:35:16.999 --> 00:35:20.132
IT'S NOT A PERFECT BUBBLE THAT
WE'RE LIVING IN, UM.

00:35:20.232 --> 00:35:22.066
REBECCA: AND IT'S JUST WE'VE
LEARNED I THINK TO FIGHT

00:35:22.166 --> 00:35:23.766
BETTER AND
RECOVER QUICKER.

00:35:23.866 --> 00:35:24.766
JONATHAN: YES.


00:35:24.866 --> 00:35:25.833
REBECCA: AND I THINK
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.

00:35:25.933 --> 00:35:27.533
WE'VE JUST LEARNED,
WE'VE BOTH HAVE LEARNED

00:35:27.633 --> 00:35:28.366
IT'S NOT WORTH IT --


00:35:28.466 --> 00:35:29.432
JONATHAN: WE BOTH
HAVE LEARNED.

00:35:29.532 --> 00:35:30.633
REBECCA: WE'RE TRYING TO
PROVE THAT THEY'RE --

00:35:30.733 --> 00:35:31.799
YOU'RE RIGHT OR TO
DECK IT OUT.

00:35:31.899 --> 00:35:33.566
IT'S JUST BETTER TO COME --
I'M TELLING YOU,

00:35:33.666 --> 00:35:36.666
HUMILITY, HUMILITY,
HUMILITY, SERVICE.

00:35:36.766 --> 00:35:37.632
AND LIKE I SAID,


00:35:37.732 --> 00:35:39.033
ONE OF THE BEST
DESCRIPTIONS OF MARRIAGE

00:35:39.133 --> 00:35:39.966
AND IT REALLY
CONVICTED ME.

00:35:40.066 --> 00:35:40.999
I HEARD THIS A COUPLE


00:35:41.099 --> 00:35:42.633
YEARS AGO FROM -- IN A
DEREK PRINCE SERMON.

00:35:42.733 --> 00:35:46.366
IS HE SAID MARRIAGE, THAT
WHEN YOU MARRY YOUR SPOUSE,

00:35:46.466 --> 00:35:49.466
THE TWO BECOME ONE, AND YOUR
LIFE IS LIKE GOING AS GOD

00:35:49.566 --> 00:35:50.632
BRINGS YOU TOGETHER.


00:35:50.732 --> 00:35:54.199
IT'S LIKE GOD BRINGING YOU
THROUGH THE WORK OF THE

00:35:54.299 --> 00:35:57.466
CROSS AND YOUR LIFE IS NO
LONGER YOUR OWN, YOU KNOW.

00:35:57.566 --> 00:36:00.700
IT'S LIKE YOU DIE TO SELF AND
NOW THE TWO HAVE BECOME ONE.

00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.099
AND YOUR LIFE IS NOW
SERVING THAT PERSON.

00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.199
AND IF BOTH PEOPLE COULD JUST
HAVE THAT MENTALITY

00:36:05.299 --> 00:36:07.166
IN THAT MARRIAGE,


00:36:07.266 --> 00:36:08.999
WHAT A POWERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL
THING IT WOULD BE.

00:36:09.099 --> 00:36:13.000
AND SO IT CONVICTED ME BECAUSE
HE SAID YOUR ROLE IS TO SERVE

00:36:13.100 --> 00:36:15.633
THAT PERSON AND THEY
WILL BE A REFLECTION

00:36:15.733 --> 00:36:16.933
OF YOUR SERVICE.


00:36:17.033 --> 00:36:19.099
AND I REMEMBER I WAS LIKE I
NEED TO SERVE MY HUSBAND MORE.

00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.166
SO IT'S NICE TO HEAR
THAT YOU AFFIRM ME IN THAT.

00:36:21.266 --> 00:36:23.866
JONATHAN: WE'VE GOT IT ON TAPE,
SEND ME THAT CLIP.

00:36:23.966 --> 00:36:25.066
NO, I WAS GOING TO
SAY ONE THING

00:36:25.166 --> 00:36:28.933
THAT'S, UM, LIGHTHEARTED,
BUT TRUE IS LIKE NOT

00:36:29.033 --> 00:36:30.499
SWEATING THE SMALL STUFF.


00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:31.866
WHEN -- THE SMALL STUFF CAN


00:36:31.966 --> 00:36:32.632
LIKE REALLY ANNOY YOU.


00:36:32.732 --> 00:36:33.799
LIKE THERE'S
THINGS THAT I DO

00:36:33.899 --> 00:36:36.632
THAT ANNOY YOU AND VICE
VERSA, BUT WHAT WE'VE

00:36:36.732 --> 00:36:38.533
LEARNED TO DO IS LIKE
LAUGH AT THOSE THINGS

00:36:38.633 --> 00:36:41.000
TOGETHER AND THAT
MAKES IT LIKE --

00:36:41.100 --> 00:36:42.166
IT ALMOST LIKE DISARMS IT


00:36:42.266 --> 00:36:43.233
BECAUSE IT STILL BOTHERS US.


00:36:43.333 --> 00:36:44.333
LIKE THERE'S THINGS
THAT I DO THAT THAT

00:36:44.433 --> 00:36:46.933
BOTHERS YOU, BUT YOU'VE
LEARNED TO LIKE POKE FUN

00:36:47.033 --> 00:36:48.833
AT IT WITH ME AND
LIKE I'LL POKE FUN --

00:36:48.933 --> 00:36:49.766
REBECCA: I THINK HUMOR.


00:36:49.866 --> 00:36:51.166
JONATHAN: YOU KNOW,
AND THAT HELPS.

00:36:51.266 --> 00:36:52.500
REBECCA: IT'S ONE OF THE
BEST THINGS IN OUR HOME.

00:36:52.600 --> 00:36:54.766
JONATHAN: IT'S A MUSCLE THAT
YOU BUILD OVER TIME, BUT, YEAH.

00:36:54.866 --> 00:36:58.966
REBECCA: AND I THINK BEING
ABLE TO LAUGH IS KEY TO GO

00:36:59.066 --> 00:37:01.699
THROUGH DIFFICULTY,
TO DEAL WITH

00:37:01.799 --> 00:37:03.299
FRUSTRATIONS OR
COMPLICATIONS.

00:37:03.399 --> 00:37:07.100
IF YOU COULD LEARN TO
JUST LAUGH AND FORGIVE

00:37:07.200 --> 00:37:08.300
AND BE HUMBLE,


00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.266
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE
GOING TO BRING SO MUCH PEACE.

00:37:10.366 --> 00:37:11.800
AND I THINK WITH WOMEN,


00:37:11.900 --> 00:37:13.799
I THINK WE SET THE
TONE FOR THE HOME AND --

00:37:13.899 --> 00:37:15.800
JONATHAN: YOU DEFINITELY DO,
IT'S BIBLICAL.

00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:17.366
REBECCA: I'VE HAD TO
JUST BE LIKE, OKAY.

00:37:17.466 --> 00:37:20.166
AM I GOING TO BRING IN AN
ENVIRONMENT OF STRIFE INTO

00:37:20.266 --> 00:37:23.466
MY HOME OR AM I GOING TO BRING
IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF LOVE?

00:37:23.566 --> 00:37:24.933
JONATHAN: YOU WILL ADMIT
THE MOMENTS

00:37:25.033 --> 00:37:26.500
THAT YOU'VE SET THE
TONE HAVE

00:37:26.600 --> 00:37:30.100
BEEN THE BIGGEST LIKE ATMOSPHERE
CHANGERS IN THE HOME.

00:37:30.200 --> 00:37:31.100
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:32.700
JONATHAN: LIKE AND EVEN
IF I'M, YOU KNOW,

00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:33.932
IT'S JUST -- IT'S THE WAY


00:37:34.032 --> 00:37:34.900
IT'S LIKE SET UP.


00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:35.833
REBECCA: IT'S LIKE
AN ANCHOR.

00:37:35.933 --> 00:37:39.666
LIKE YOU CHOOSE HOW
IT'S GOING TO BE.

00:37:39.766 --> 00:37:41.833
JONATHAN: I THINK THE HUSBAND
SETS THE TRAJECTORY

00:37:41.933 --> 00:37:45.266
AND LIKE LAYS THE FOUNDATION
AND PUTS THE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE.

00:37:45.366 --> 00:37:47.866
BUT THEN THE WIFE IS
LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT.

00:37:47.966 --> 00:37:52.066
SHE BRINGS IT TOGETHER
IN LIKE THE ANOINTING

00:37:52.166 --> 00:37:53.333
TO LIKE FOSTER


00:37:53.433 --> 00:37:56.533
GOD'S PRESENCE, FLOWS
THROUGH HER INTO THE HOME.

00:37:56.633 --> 00:37:59.033
IT TAKES TWO, BUT I
REALLY BELIEVE THAT

00:37:59.133 --> 00:38:00.299
LIKE THAT'S THE MODEL.


00:38:00.399 --> 00:38:03.833
REBECCA: AND WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING IS SO TRUE IS THAT THE

00:38:03.933 --> 00:38:05.699
THING IS THAT PEOPLE FIGHT
AND I THINK ABOUT IN THE

00:38:05.766 --> 00:38:09.199
GARDEN WHEN ADAM AND EVE
WHEN GOD IS SAYING YOU TWO

00:38:09.299 --> 00:38:12.366
ARE GOING TO BECAUSE OF
THE CURSE THEY HAD SINNED,

00:38:12.466 --> 00:38:13.266
THEY HAD EATEN THE APPLE.


00:38:13.366 --> 00:38:14.866
AND SO GOD WAS SAYING,


00:38:14.966 --> 00:38:16.500
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO WORK BY THE SWEAT

00:38:16.600 --> 00:38:17.600
OF YOUR BROW.


00:38:17.700 --> 00:38:19.900
HE'S SAYING ALL OF THE
RAMIFICATIONS OF THE SIN.

00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.999
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HE SAYS IS I THINK HE SAYS

00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:23.399
THERE'S BASICALLY GOING
TO BE A POWER STRUGGLE

00:38:23.499 --> 00:38:24.466
BETWEEN ADAM AND EVE.


00:38:24.566 --> 00:38:26.699
AND I THINK IN MARRIAGE,


00:38:26.799 --> 00:38:29.732
THERE IS -- PEOPLE WANT TO
FIGHT FOR POWER AND THAT'S WHY

00:38:29.832 --> 00:38:32.133
THE SUBMISSION THING IS
SUCH A HOT BUTTON TOPIC

00:38:32.233 --> 00:38:33.933
BECAUSE PEOPLE GET ANGRY.


00:38:34.033 --> 00:38:35.666
BUT IF WE CAN JUST LEARN


00:38:35.766 --> 00:38:39.132
THAT INSTEAD OF
TRYING TO FIGHT OVER

00:38:39.232 --> 00:38:40.633
I'M THE HEAD
AND YOU'RE THIS,

00:38:40.733 --> 00:38:42.299
I'M MORE IMPORTANT THAN
YOU, BUT TO UNDERSTAND

00:38:42.399 --> 00:38:45.800
THAT MAN AND WOMAN, HUSBAND
AND WIFE, BOTH HAVE VALUE

00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:48.599
AND PURPOSE IN GOD'S EYES
AND THAT THE ORDER IS NOT

00:38:48.699 --> 00:38:51.599
A MATTER OF JUST BECAUSE
A WOMAN IS UNDER A MAN

00:38:51.699 --> 00:38:53.299
DOESN'T MEAN SHE'S
ANY LESS VALUABLE.

00:38:53.399 --> 00:38:54.699
SHE'S JUST AS VALUABLE.


00:38:54.799 --> 00:38:57.066
IT'S JUST A MATTER
OF ORDER.

00:38:57.166 --> 00:38:58.466
BECAUSE IF THERE'S NOT ORDER,


00:38:58.566 --> 00:39:00.766
THERE'S CHAOS AND WE
DON'T SERVE A GOD OF CHAOS.

00:39:00.866 --> 00:39:03.533
WE SERVE A GOD
OF ORDER AND A COVERING

00:39:03.633 --> 00:39:06.966
AND A HEAD IS ACTUALLY A
COVERING OF PROTECTION FOR

00:39:07.066 --> 00:39:08.099
THE WOMAN IN THE FAMILY.


00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:09.333
IT'S ACTUALLY A
BEAUTIFUL THING.

00:39:09.433 --> 00:39:11.533
IT'S ONLY WHEN PEOPLE
TWIST IT AND ABUSE IT THAT

00:39:11.633 --> 00:39:14.299
IT'S WRONG, BUT THAT'S NOT
HOW GOD INTENDED IT TO BE.

00:39:14.399 --> 00:39:15.966
HE INTENDED TO BE A
BEAUTIFUL THING AND A

00:39:16.066 --> 00:39:18.232
HELPFUL THING AND SO...


00:39:18.332 --> 00:39:19.133
JONATHAN: SO GOOD.


00:39:19.233 --> 00:39:22.366
REBECCA: HUMBLE, LOVE,
SERVE, KEY.

00:39:22.466 --> 00:39:23.600
JONATHAN: LAST QUESTION.


00:39:23.700 --> 00:39:27.132
HOW DO YOU MODEL A CHRISTLIKE
MARRIAGE FOR YOUR KIDS?

00:39:27.232 --> 00:39:30.700
REBECCA: OH.


00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:34.700
YOU -- YOU WANT TAKE THAT?


00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:38.166
FOOTBALL PASS.


00:39:38.266 --> 00:39:39.333
JONATHAN: WELL, I WOULD SAY


00:39:39.433 --> 00:39:41.232
THAT WE'RE LEARNING
EVERY DAY AND

00:39:41.332 --> 00:39:43.333
WORKING EVERY DAY TO
BE BETTER AT THAT.

00:39:43.433 --> 00:39:47.399
UM, BUT ONE THING THAT
PRACTICALLY THAT WE TRY

00:39:47.499 --> 00:39:49.966
AND DO IS NOT BICKER OR
FIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM.

00:39:50.066 --> 00:39:50.433
REBECCA: THAT'S WHAT I WAS
GOING TO SAY.

00:39:50.533 --> 00:39:51.333
THAT'S SO FUNNY.


00:39:51.433 --> 00:39:52.399
JONATHAN: YOU KNOW,


00:39:52.499 --> 00:39:53.299
IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY
LIKE WE'RE NOT PERFECT.

00:39:53.399 --> 00:39:54.699
REBECCA: TRYING TO
FIGHT FAIR.

00:39:54.799 --> 00:39:55.899
JONATHAN: OR TRY
AND ACTUALLY --

00:39:55.999 --> 00:39:57.199
I'M ALWAYS TRYING
TO SHELF IT

00:39:57.299 --> 00:39:59.600
AND DEAL WITH IT LATER,
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO

00:39:59.700 --> 00:40:03.300
SHOW THEM THAT NECESSARILY,
NOT THAT WE

00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:05.333
DON'T SHOW THEM CONFLICT.


00:40:05.433 --> 00:40:06.499
REBECCA: LET'S CLARIFY THIS.


00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.633
YOU WANT TO SHELF OR TELL
ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU SHELF

00:40:09.733 --> 00:40:11.066
WHEN THINGS ARE
GETTING OUT OF HAND.

00:40:11.166 --> 00:40:11.999
WHEN IT'S TOO HEATED


00:40:12.099 --> 00:40:13.732
IN THE MOMENT
AND YOU SAY SHELF IT,

00:40:13.832 --> 00:40:16.866
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER
BECAUSE IT'S TOO EMOTIONAL.

00:40:16.966 --> 00:40:20.366
BUT WE FIGHT, WE TALK
THINGS THROUGH IN

00:40:20.466 --> 00:40:21.799
FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN
TO SHOW THEM --

00:40:21.899 --> 00:40:22.899
JONATHAN: THAT'S TRUE, BUT
THAT'S DIFFERENT.

00:40:22.999 --> 00:40:24.133
REBECCA: THIS IS HOW YOU
WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION.

00:40:24.233 --> 00:40:24.999
JONATHAN: AND WE
EXPLAIN IT TO THEM.

00:40:25.099 --> 00:40:26.800
LIKE ASHER STARTS
TO BE LIKE,

00:40:26.900 --> 00:40:28.833
DON'T FIGHT OR LIKE
DON'T MAKE ME PUT YOU GUYS

00:40:28.933 --> 00:40:30.966
ON TIMEOUT AND THEN
WE SAY IT'S OKAY.

00:40:31.066 --> 00:40:34.633
AND THEN IT ACTUALLY IS WE
ARE WORKING THROUGH THIS.

00:40:34.733 --> 00:40:36.033
YOU DON'T NEED TO
BE A PART OF IT.

00:40:36.133 --> 00:40:37.633
WE LOVE YOU UNCONDITIONALLY.


00:40:37.733 --> 00:40:38.733
THIS ISN'T AFFECTING YOU.


00:40:38.833 --> 00:40:40.200
REBECCA: YOU DON'T HAVE TO,
IT'S NOT YOUR JOB.

00:40:40.300 --> 00:40:41.600
JONATHAN: AND HE RELAXES.


00:40:41.700 --> 00:40:42.699
HE'S LIKE, OH, OKAY.


00:40:42.799 --> 00:40:44.599
THIS IS LIKE MOMMY AND
DADDY GOTTA FIGURE THIS

00:40:44.699 --> 00:40:46.432
THING OUT AND THEN WE'LL
FIGURE OUT THE RESOLUTION

00:40:46.532 --> 00:40:48.833
AND HE SEES
THAT TAKE PLACE.

00:40:48.933 --> 00:40:50.966
BUT UM --


00:40:51.066 --> 00:40:53.033
REBECCA: IT'S UNFRUITFUL
FIGHTING THAT WE SHELF

00:40:53.133 --> 00:40:54.633
WHERE WHEN IT'S HURTFUL.


00:40:54.733 --> 00:40:56.299
WE DON'T DO THAT,
WE REALIZE, OKAY,

00:40:56.399 --> 00:40:58.366
WE'RE NOT DOING THIS, SHELF
THIS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS

00:40:58.466 --> 00:41:01.433
WHEN THE EMOTIONS HAVE
GONE DOWN AND LIKE YOU

00:41:01.533 --> 00:41:02.566
SAID WITH ASHER,


00:41:02.666 --> 00:41:04.333
IS WE TAUGHT THEM, BECAUSE
SOMETIMES HE'LL SEE US

00:41:04.433 --> 00:41:06.333
TALKING AND SOMETIMES,
HE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW,

00:41:06.433 --> 00:41:09.199
HE'S MISTER LIKE, YOU
KNOW, DO THE RIGHT THING.

00:41:09.299 --> 00:41:12.400
YOU KNOW, AND SO HE'S LIKE,
YOU TWO BE NICE.

00:41:12.500 --> 00:41:13.932
WE'RE ALWAYS LIKE, HONEY,


00:41:14.032 --> 00:41:15.632
YOU'RE THE CHILD,


00:41:15.732 --> 00:41:16.433
WE'RE THE PARENT,


00:41:16.533 --> 00:41:17.533
WE WILL WORK IT OUT.


00:41:17.633 --> 00:41:19.333
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
ABOUT MOMMY AND DADDY,

00:41:19.433 --> 00:41:21.233
WE ARE TALKING IT
OUT AND HE'S LIKE,

00:41:21.333 --> 00:41:23.566
OH, AND THEN HE'S GOOD.


00:41:23.666 --> 00:41:24.766
SO YEAH, BUT YEAH,


00:41:24.866 --> 00:41:26.633
I WAS GOING TO SAY
FIGHTING

00:41:26.733 --> 00:41:28.033
IN A CHRISTLIKE, NOT
FIGHTING,

00:41:28.133 --> 00:41:30.566
BUT COMING TO RESOLUTION
IN A CHRISTLIKE WAY,

00:41:30.666 --> 00:41:31.899
LOVING ONE ANOTHER
SERVING ONE --

00:41:31.999 --> 00:41:33.433
JONATHAN: SERVING ONE
ANOTHER.

00:41:33.533 --> 00:41:34.732
REBECCA: SHOWING AFFECTION,


00:41:34.832 --> 00:41:35.666
I THINK IT'S HUGE.


00:41:35.766 --> 00:41:36.999
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE
TO SAVE THAT,

00:41:37.099 --> 00:41:37.966
LIKE YOU CAN HUG ONE ANOTHER,


00:41:38.066 --> 00:41:40.300
KISS ONE ANOTHER IN
FRONT OF YOUR KIDS.

00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:42.066
I THINK PRIORITIZING
ONE ANOTHER IN FRONT

00:41:42.166 --> 00:41:43.299
OF YOUR CHILDREN.


00:41:43.399 --> 00:41:45.000
YOU KNOW, YOUR CHILDREN ARE
VALUABLE AND YOU SHOW THEM

00:41:45.100 --> 00:41:45.699
THAT YOU LOVE THEM.


00:41:45.799 --> 00:41:46.833
BUT YOU SHOW THEM THAT,


00:41:46.933 --> 00:41:51.000
HEY, YOUR MOTHER YOUR
FATHER COME FIRST AND THAT

00:41:51.100 --> 00:41:52.966
ACTUALLY GIVES YOUR
CHILDREN A SENSE OF

00:41:53.066 --> 00:41:55.799
SECURITY BECAUSE IT'S
NOT SHOWING THEM THAT

00:41:55.899 --> 00:41:57.900
EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND
THEM WHICH WOULD FEEL

00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.633
UNSTABLE, BUT RATHER THAT
EVERYTHING REVOLVES

00:42:00.733 --> 00:42:01.833
AROUND THE LORD.


00:42:01.933 --> 00:42:05.633
YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S
HIS ORDER OF THINGS, SO...

00:42:05.733 --> 00:42:06.532
JONATHAN: I CAN'T
BELIEVE WE MADE IT

00:42:06.632 --> 00:42:07.699
THROUGH AN ENTIRE
VALENTINE'S DAY

00:42:07.799 --> 00:42:09.899
EPISODE WITH NO
QUESTIONS ABOUT SEX.

00:42:09.999 --> 00:42:14.433
EITHER SOMEBODY WENT THROUGH AND
FILTERED THESE QUESTIONS OUT.

00:42:14.533 --> 00:42:16.232
WHY ARE YOU BURYING
YOUR HEAD IN THE MIKE?

00:42:16.332 --> 00:42:19.199
I THOUGHT FOR SURE
THERE WAS GOING TO BE LIKE

00:42:19.299 --> 00:42:20.466
MULTIPLE SEX QUESTIONS.


00:42:20.566 --> 00:42:22.533
REBECCA: I DON'T KNOW IF WE
GIVE OFF THOSE VIBES THAT WE

00:42:22.633 --> 00:42:24.966
TALK ABOUT SEX ON
A PUBLIC PLATFORM.

00:42:25.066 --> 00:42:26.033
JONATHAN: OH, THAT'S RIGHT.


00:42:26.133 --> 00:42:26.999
REBECCA: I DON'T THINK
WE GIVE OFF,

00:42:27.099 --> 00:42:28.532
I DON'T THINK I
GIVE OFF THAT ENERGY.

00:42:28.632 --> 00:42:30.633
JONATHAN: WELL, IT WAS
A COUPLE THING.

00:42:30.733 --> 00:42:33.166
ANYWAYS, YOU'LL HAVE TO
TUNE IN NEXT YEAR

00:42:33.266 --> 00:42:34.299
AND SEE IF ANYONE
WRITES A QUESTION.

00:42:34.399 --> 00:42:36.333
REBECCA: SEE IF ANYONE ADDS
ANYTHING STEAMY

00:42:36.433 --> 00:42:38.033
INTO THE CONVERSATION.


00:42:38.133 --> 00:42:39.400
WOULD I EVEN ANSWER IT?


00:42:39.500 --> 00:42:40.433
PROBABLY NOT.


00:42:40.533 --> 00:42:41.333
JONATHAN: PROBABLY NOT.


00:42:41.433 --> 00:42:42.066
WE'D PROBABLY HAVE
TO EDIT IT OUT.

00:42:42.166 --> 00:42:43.066
REBECCA: YOU PROBABLY WOULD.


00:42:43.166 --> 00:42:43.733
JONATHAN: I WOULD.


00:42:43.833 --> 00:42:44.233
REBECCA: YOU'RE SO CHILL,


00:42:44.333 --> 00:42:46.166
YOU DON'T CARE.


00:42:46.266 --> 00:42:48.499
AND ON THAT NOTE,
HOPE YOU HAVE

00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:52.199
SOME GOOD SEX ON VALENTINE'S
DAY IF YOU'RE MARRIED.

00:42:52.299 --> 00:42:53.266
[ LAUGHTER ]


00:42:53.366 --> 00:42:54.332
REBECCA: IF YOU'RE NOT,


00:42:54.432 --> 00:42:59.566
WAIT FOR THE MARRIAGE
AND THE RIGHT PERSON.

00:42:59.666 --> 00:43:02.899
JONATHAN: I JUST WANT TO SAY
I LOVE YOU AND I ENJOY

00:43:02.999 --> 00:43:04.799
GETTING TO SIT DOWN AND
TALK THESE THINGS THROUGH.

00:43:04.899 --> 00:43:06.766
IT'S LIKE FUNNY BECAUSE
YOU THINK THIS MOMENT,

00:43:06.866 --> 00:43:08.933
IT'S LIKE IT'S A WORK MOMENT,
WE'RE PREPARING SOMETHING,

00:43:09.033 --> 00:43:11.132
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NICE TO
CONNECT IN THIS WAY AND

00:43:11.232 --> 00:43:15.633
IT'S A GOOD REMINDER OF
WHO WE ARE TOGETHER AND SO

00:43:15.733 --> 00:43:17.566
APPRECIATE YOU
HAVING ME ON.

00:43:17.666 --> 00:43:19.033
REBECCA: WELL, I LOVE YOU.


00:43:19.133 --> 00:43:20.233
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.


00:43:20.333 --> 00:43:21.333
MY FAVORITE PODCASTS ARE


00:43:21.433 --> 00:43:22.499
THE ONES I DO WITH YOU.


00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.999
SO WE'LL SEE
YOU HERE AGAIN,

00:43:25.099 --> 00:43:25.566
I HOPE.