WEBVTT 00:00:00.833 --> 00:00:01.733 PHILIP: I DON'T KNOW, 00:00:01.833 --> 00:00:02.533 I'M ABOUT TO GET IN TROUBLE ON YOUR PODCAST. 00:00:02.633 --> 00:00:03.599 REBECCA: DO IT. 00:00:03.699 --> 00:00:05.500 PHILIP: IT'S MY PUBLIC TESTIMONY TO SAY THAT 00:00:05.600 --> 00:00:07.066 I'M DEAD TO CULTURE. 00:00:07.166 --> 00:00:10.366 REBECCA: I'M CONSTANTLY THROWING MY LIFE UP ON THAT ALTAR, 00:00:10.466 --> 00:00:12.999 AND I'M SAYING WHATEVER IS NOT PLEASING TO YOU, 00:00:13.099 --> 00:00:14.233 BURN IT UP. 00:00:14.333 --> 00:00:16.066 PHILIP: I SAY ALL THE TIME THAT I HAVE A VERY FEROCIOUS 00:00:16.166 --> 00:00:19.266 PRAYER LIFE NOT BECAUSE I'M A SUPER CHRISTIAN, 00:00:19.366 --> 00:00:20.833 BUT BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF BROKENNESS. 00:00:20.933 --> 00:00:22.066 REBECCA: HAVE YOU TRIED TO PRAY IN YOUR OWN STRENGTH? 00:00:22.166 --> 00:00:23.600 I DON'T LIKE -- I HATE THAT. 00:00:23.700 --> 00:00:24.766 PHILIP: EVERYTHING IS ME. 00:00:24.866 --> 00:00:27.966 WE, THIS IS THE MOST NARCISSISTIC GENERATION IN 00:00:28.066 --> 00:00:29.332 THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. 00:00:39.400 --> 00:00:40.099 REBECCA: ALL RIGHT, 00:00:40.199 --> 00:00:40.866 WELCOME BACK TO THE PODCAST. 00:00:40.966 --> 00:00:43.033 I AM HERE WITH PHILIP ANTHONY. 00:00:43.133 --> 00:00:46.166 PASTOR OF 2819 CHURCH 00:00:46.266 --> 00:00:47.266 IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. 00:00:47.366 --> 00:00:48.499 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:00:48.599 --> 00:00:50.700 REBECCA: AND FIRST OFF, SUPER HONORED TO HAVE YOU HERE. 00:00:50.800 --> 00:00:51.733 PHILIP: OH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 00:00:51.833 --> 00:00:52.733 I APPRECIATE IT. 00:00:52.833 --> 00:00:54.433 REBECCA: YOU'RE BRINGING THE FIRE WITH YOU. 00:00:54.533 --> 00:00:57.033 YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL WHEN SOMEONE'S IN THE SECRET PLACE, 00:00:57.133 --> 00:00:58.566 AND THEY HAVE IT -- FOR ME, 00:00:58.666 --> 00:01:02.099 I AM SO APPRECIATIVE OF THAT BECAUSE IT HELPS STIR 00:01:02.199 --> 00:01:04.900 ME UP AND ENCOURAGE ME AND HELPS ME KEEP GOING. 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:06.066 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:01:06.166 --> 00:01:07.466 REBECCA: AND YOUR STORY IS SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, 00:01:07.566 --> 00:01:09.066 AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO YOUR STORY. 00:01:09.166 --> 00:01:12.632 BUT, I MEAN, REDEMPTION, MIRACLES, BREAKTHROUGH. 00:01:12.732 --> 00:01:15.833 BUT WHAT I LOVE IS YOUR STORY IS A STORY OF THE 00:01:15.933 --> 00:01:17.066 PROCESS OF GOD. 00:01:17.166 --> 00:01:18.399 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:01:18.499 --> 00:01:20.799 REBECCA: AND IF WE DON'T GIVE UP, WHAT GOD CAN DO THROUGH US 00:01:20.899 --> 00:01:21.933 IF WE SUBMIT TO THE PROCESS. 00:01:22.033 --> 00:01:23.066 PHILIP: YEAH, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:01:23.166 --> 00:01:24.466 REBECCA: AND THAT IS AN ENCOURAGING WORD 00:01:24.566 --> 00:01:25.700 FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING. 00:01:25.800 --> 00:01:28.233 BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS PAINFUL AT TIMES, 00:01:28.333 --> 00:01:29.466 BUT IT'S FOR OUR GOOD. 00:01:29.566 --> 00:01:30.399 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:01:30.499 --> 00:01:31.599 REBECCA: IT'S NECESSARY. 00:01:31.699 --> 00:01:32.833 PHILIP: ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. 00:01:32.933 --> 00:01:36.733 REBECCA: YOU KNOW, THE TRIAL OF THE CROSS WAS NECESSARY 00:01:36.833 --> 00:01:37.899 FOR OUR SAKES. 00:01:37.999 --> 00:01:42.100 AND SO LET'S GET INTO YOUR LIFE, YOUR TESTIMONY. 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:42.566 YOU'RE FROM QUEENS. 00:01:42.666 --> 00:01:43.732 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:01:43.832 --> 00:01:44.433 REBECCA: SHOUTOUT, MY FATHER-IN-LAW'S FROM THERE. 00:01:44.533 --> 00:01:45.366 SHOUT OUT TO YOU, MYLES. 00:01:45.466 --> 00:01:46.299 PHILIP: COME ON. 00:01:46.399 --> 00:01:47.433 REBECCA: BUT TELL US ABOUT GROWING UP. 00:01:47.533 --> 00:01:49.933 PHILIP: YEAH, SO FROM QUEENS, NEW YORK. 00:01:50.033 --> 00:01:52.766 I WAS RAISED IN A HOME WITH BELIEVING PARENTS. 00:01:52.866 --> 00:01:55.799 MY PARENTS WERE IMMIGRANTS FROM THE ISLAND OF TRINIDAD. 00:01:55.899 --> 00:01:57.266 I WAS THE FIRST PERSON IN MY FAMILY BORN 00:01:57.366 --> 00:01:58.666 IN THE UNITED STATES. 00:01:58.766 --> 00:01:59.700 AND SO, YOU KNOW, 00:01:59.800 --> 00:02:01.800 I HEARD ABOUT THE THINGS OF GOD GROWING UP. 00:02:01.900 --> 00:02:03.333 YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS HAD A SMALL MINISTRY 00:02:03.433 --> 00:02:04.633 IN THE BASEMENT. 00:02:04.733 --> 00:02:07.399 MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME PSALM 23 AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. 00:02:07.499 --> 00:02:10.333 BUT I WAS RAISED IN A VERY TOUGH URBAN ENVIRONMENT. 00:02:10.433 --> 00:02:13.733 AND SO I THINK THE WORLD OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE HAD 00:02:13.833 --> 00:02:16.299 A STRONGER PULL ON ME THAN THE FAITH THAT I SAW INSIDE 00:02:16.399 --> 00:02:17.066 OF MY HOUSE. 00:02:17.166 --> 00:02:18.933 SO BY THE AGE OF 12, MAN, 00:02:19.033 --> 00:02:20.099 I'M ALREADY IN THE STREET. 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:23.199 YOU KNOW, I'M SELLING CRACK COCAINE AT THE AGE OF 12. 00:02:23.299 --> 00:02:25.900 I'M ALREADY INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, ROBBING 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:29.166 PEOPLE AT GUNPOINT BY 16, IN AND OUT OF JAIL. 00:02:29.266 --> 00:02:31.999 SO I WENT DOWN A VERY DARK PATH. 00:02:32.099 --> 00:02:34.333 I EVENTUALLY GOT FORCED OUT OF NEW YORK 00:02:34.433 --> 00:02:35.533 BECAUSE OF LEGAL TROUBLE. 00:02:35.633 --> 00:02:36.799 YOU KNOW, I'D BE AT A CASE WHEN I WAS 00:02:36.899 --> 00:02:38.399 AT RIKERS ISLAND PRISON 00:02:38.499 --> 00:02:42.933 FACING SOME TIME AT AGE 17 AND UP IN NORTH CAROLINA. 00:02:43.033 --> 00:02:45.132 BUT THEN ANOTHER TEN YEARS OF JUST DARKNESS 00:02:45.232 --> 00:02:46.533 IN NORTH CAROLINA. 00:02:46.633 --> 00:02:49.966 UNTIL A PERIOD OF MY LIFE WHEN I BECAME VERY SUICIDAL. 00:02:50.066 --> 00:02:54.066 YOU KNOW, I HAD ALL THE TRAPPINGS OF WORLDLY SUCCESS. 00:02:54.166 --> 00:02:56.999 YOU KNOW, I HAD A LUXURY CAR, A BEAUTIFUL GIRLFRIEND, 00:02:57.099 --> 00:02:59.066 A DOPE APARTMENT, 00:02:59.166 --> 00:03:00.999 BUT IT'S VERY EMPTY ON THE INSIDE. 00:03:01.099 --> 00:03:02.433 REBECCA: SO YOU WERE OUTWARDLY SUCCESSFUL. 00:03:02.533 --> 00:03:03.066 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:03:03.166 --> 00:03:03.700 OUTWARDLY SUCCESSFUL. 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.066 BUT INWARDLY, I WAS, 00:03:05.166 --> 00:03:06.300 I WAS EMPTY. 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:07.932 AND THERE WAS THIS PERIOD OF MY LIFE 00:03:08.032 --> 00:03:09.733 WHEN I TURNED 24, 00:03:09.833 --> 00:03:10.999 I WAS VERY SUICIDAL. 00:03:11.099 --> 00:03:13.300 AND, UM, YOU KNOW, 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.666 I'M SITTING IN AN APARTMENT ONE DAY, 00:03:15.766 --> 00:03:17.199 SHOTGUN ON MY LAP. 00:03:17.299 --> 00:03:19.633 I DIDN'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO PULL THAT TRIGGER, 00:03:19.733 --> 00:03:20.799 GOT A BOTTLE OF HENNESSY. 00:03:20.899 --> 00:03:22.133 FINISHED THAT BOTTLE. 00:03:22.233 --> 00:03:26.700 I PUT THAT GUN TO MY CHIN AND MY DOOR WAS UNLOCKED THAT NIGHT. 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:27.466 THERE WAS THIS GIRL, 00:03:27.566 --> 00:03:28.766 I HAD LOCKS BACK IN THIS DAY. 00:03:28.866 --> 00:03:29.833 SO SHE USED TO TWIST MY LOCKS. 00:03:29.933 --> 00:03:31.200 SHE WAS A BELIEVER. 00:03:31.300 --> 00:03:32.600 AND I REMEMBER I USED TO MOCK HER FAITH. 00:03:32.700 --> 00:03:33.533 I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. 00:03:33.633 --> 00:03:35.366 BUT SHE CAME TO VISIT ME THAT NIGHT. 00:03:35.466 --> 00:03:39.366 THAT WAS GOD'S PROVIDENCE AND MY DOOR'S UNLOCKED 00:03:39.466 --> 00:03:40.500 AND SHE WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR. 00:03:40.600 --> 00:03:43.366 SHE SEES ME SITTING THERE WITH TEARS IN MY EYES. 00:03:43.466 --> 00:03:44.466 SHE SITS DOWN NEXT TO ME. 00:03:44.566 --> 00:03:45.432 SHE DOESN'T SAY A WORD, 00:03:45.532 --> 00:03:50.266 REBECCA, AT ALL AND SHE HOLDS MY HAND. 00:03:50.366 --> 00:03:52.132 AND IT'S LIKE THE MINISTRY OF PRESENCE. 00:03:52.232 --> 00:03:54.200 SHE TALKS ME OFF THE LEDGE. 00:03:54.300 --> 00:03:55.366 AND THAT LASTED 00:03:55.466 --> 00:03:57.099 MAYBE ABOUT SIX MONTHS BEFORE. 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:59.032 I WAS SUICIDAL AGAIN. 00:03:59.132 --> 00:04:01.066 THIS TIME MY LIVE-IN GIRLFRIEND, 00:04:01.166 --> 00:04:02.566 WHO WOULD BECOME MY WIFE, 00:04:02.666 --> 00:04:05.166 SHE GETS INTO THIS CAR ACCIDENT. 00:04:05.266 --> 00:04:07.533 SHE'S THANKFUL THAT SHE SURVIVED THIS CAR ACCIDENT. 00:04:07.633 --> 00:04:09.800 SHE COMES BACK TO OUR APARTMENT. 00:04:09.900 --> 00:04:11.799 SHE PUTS ON GOSPEL MUSIC. 00:04:11.899 --> 00:04:13.066 IT'S THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE 00:04:13.166 --> 00:04:15.100 I HEAR GOSPEL MUSIC. 00:04:15.200 --> 00:04:16.233 SHE'S WALKING BACK AND FORTH. 00:04:16.333 --> 00:04:17.933 SHE'S PRAISING GOD. 00:04:18.033 --> 00:04:19.532 SHE LIFTS HER HANDS. 00:04:19.632 --> 00:04:22.833 AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I SAY TO MYSELF, MAN, 00:04:22.933 --> 00:04:24.699 WHATEVER THAT IS RIGHT THERE, 00:04:24.799 --> 00:04:26.600 I WANT THAT FOR MYSELF. 00:04:26.700 --> 00:04:28.666 AND I CRAWL INTO THIS BATHROOM ON 00:04:28.766 --> 00:04:30.633 MY HANDS AND MY KNEES. 00:04:30.733 --> 00:04:33.366 I STARTED YELLING AT GOD, NOT KNOWING THAT HE 00:04:33.466 --> 00:04:37.366 EXISTED AND GOD SAVED ME IN THE BATHROOM THAT DAY 00:04:37.466 --> 00:04:38.433 AND BROUGHT ME TO THE KINGDOM. 00:04:38.533 --> 00:04:40.466 SO, THAT'S, THAT'S MY STORY FROM NEW YORK 00:04:40.566 --> 00:04:42.066 TOWARDS THE KINGDOM. 00:04:42.166 --> 00:04:44.499 AND IT WOULD BE LIKE SIX MONTHS LATER, 00:04:44.599 --> 00:04:48.000 GOD SPOKE TO ME ABOUT PASTORAL MINISTRY AND RAN 00:04:48.100 --> 00:04:51.433 FROM THAT FOR FOUR YEARS AND THAT'S HOW I GOT TO 00:04:51.533 --> 00:04:52.666 WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW 00:04:52.766 --> 00:04:54.199 INSIDE THE KINGDOM. 00:04:54.299 --> 00:04:55.233 REBECCA: I WANT TO TALK 00:04:55.333 --> 00:04:58.132 A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE 00:04:58.232 --> 00:04:59.400 WITH THE SHOTGUN. 00:04:59.500 --> 00:05:00.466 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:05:00.566 --> 00:05:02.832 REBECCA: SO THAT WAS A MIRACLE THAT YOUR DOOR 00:05:02.932 --> 00:05:03.732 WAS EVEN UNLOCKED 00:05:03.832 --> 00:05:04.666 AND THAT SHE CAME. 00:05:04.766 --> 00:05:05.899 PHILIP: YES. 00:05:05.999 --> 00:05:09.499 REBECCA: AND THEN, BUT YOU WERE STILL SIX MONTHS LATER 00:05:09.599 --> 00:05:10.833 DRIVEN BACK TO SUICIDE 00:05:10.933 --> 00:05:12.432 BECAUSE THE EMPTINESS. 00:05:12.532 --> 00:05:13.133 DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU JUST REACHED 00:05:13.233 --> 00:05:14.333 THE END OF YOURSELF? 00:05:14.433 --> 00:05:15.666 PHILIP: YEAH, YOU KNOW, 00:05:15.766 --> 00:05:18.166 I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE I LEARNED A VERY 00:05:18.266 --> 00:05:21.600 HARD LESSON THAT WE COULD, WE COULD PAD OUR LIVES 00:05:21.700 --> 00:05:22.632 WITH ALL THE THINGS 00:05:22.732 --> 00:05:24.600 WE THINK IS GOING TO MAKE US FEEL FULFILLED. 00:05:24.700 --> 00:05:26.866 LIKE THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO THIS 00:05:26.966 --> 00:05:29.599 PODCAST RIGHT NOW WHO FEEL LIKE IF THEY'RE GETTING TO 00:05:29.699 --> 00:05:31.266 A CERTAIN SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, 00:05:31.366 --> 00:05:32.233 THEY WILL BE FULFILLED. 00:05:32.333 --> 00:05:33.799 IF THEY GET THE HUSBAND OR THE WIFE, 00:05:33.899 --> 00:05:35.533 THEY'RE GOING TO BE FULFILLED. 00:05:35.633 --> 00:05:37.266 IF THEY GET THE BIG INSTAGRAM FOLLOWING. 00:05:37.366 --> 00:05:39.733 AND WE ACTUALLY THINK THAT IF WE PAD OUR LIVES WITH 00:05:39.833 --> 00:05:44.699 ALL OF THESE MATERIAL AND WHAT I WOULD SAY FLEETING THINGS, 00:05:44.799 --> 00:05:46.299 THAT WE WOULD BE FULFILLED. 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:47.999 I THINK PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH THIS BOTH WHO ARE 00:05:48.099 --> 00:05:50.499 THOSE WHO ARE FAR AWAY FROM GOD AND PEOPLE INSIDE 00:05:50.599 --> 00:05:52.933 THE CHURCH ARE DEALING WITH THIS. 00:05:53.033 --> 00:05:54.833 AND I LEARNED THAT YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS 00:05:54.933 --> 00:05:55.933 AND STILL BE EMPTY. 00:05:56.033 --> 00:05:58.699 I WAS BROKEN ON THE INSIDE AND I WAS EMPTY. 00:05:58.799 --> 00:06:00.299 I HAD THE FAKE SMILE, 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.466 BUT I KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS MISSING IN MY LIFE. 00:06:02.566 --> 00:06:05.499 I JUST DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS UNTIL I CRIED OUT 00:06:05.599 --> 00:06:07.166 TO GOD IN THAT BATHROOM. 00:06:07.266 --> 00:06:08.466 AND I LOOK BACK ON IT, 00:06:08.566 --> 00:06:11.699 AND I THINK, MAN, LIKE THERE'S SOMEBODY WATCHING RIGHT NOW 00:06:11.799 --> 00:06:15.533 LISTENING TO US WHO IS FAR AWAY FROM GOD AND THEY 00:06:15.633 --> 00:06:17.366 THINK GOD DOES NOT CARE BECAUSE OF 00:06:17.466 --> 00:06:18.633 WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH. 00:06:18.733 --> 00:06:19.633 BUT I LOOK BACK NOW. 00:06:19.733 --> 00:06:20.933 IN HINDSIGHT I REALIZE, 00:06:21.033 --> 00:06:23.399 NO, GOD CARED ABOUT ME ON THAT DAY. 00:06:23.499 --> 00:06:25.266 I MEAN, IT'S HIS PROVIDENCE THAT HE SENT 00:06:25.366 --> 00:06:27.866 A BELIEVER TO MY APARTMENT THAT NIGHT 00:06:27.966 --> 00:06:28.899 AND THAT MY DOOR'S UNLOCKED. 00:06:28.999 --> 00:06:30.533 IF THAT DOOR IS LOCKED, 00:06:30.633 --> 00:06:31.999 I'M NOT SITTING HERE. 00:06:32.099 --> 00:06:33.300 IF THAT DOOR'S LOCKED, 00:06:33.400 --> 00:06:34.966 I'M IN ETERNITY. 00:06:35.066 --> 00:06:36.899 BUT I'M IN ETERNITY SEPARATED FROM GOD. 00:06:36.999 --> 00:06:39.066 REBECCA: OH, THAT'S SUCH A SOBERING THOUGHT. 00:06:39.166 --> 00:06:39.999 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:06:40.099 --> 00:06:41.533 REBECCA: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE STORY 00:06:41.633 --> 00:06:43.999 SIX MONTHS LATER WITH, WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND AT THE 00:06:44.099 --> 00:06:46.099 TIME, WHO WOULD BECOME YOUR WIFE, WHICH I LOVE. 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.533 BUT SHE MODELED WHEN SHE PUT ON THAT WORSHIP MUSIC, 00:06:48.633 --> 00:06:50.999 THAT GOSPEL MUSIC AND SHE BEGAN TO WORSHIP GOD, 00:06:51.099 --> 00:06:54.233 SHE MODELED HOW GOD IS ENTHRONED ON OUR PRAISES 00:06:54.333 --> 00:06:56.366 AND HIS PRESENCE AND RELATIONSHIP. 00:06:56.466 --> 00:06:58.600 AND THAT WAS YOUR -- YOU GRABBED HOLD OF THAT. 00:06:58.700 --> 00:06:59.933 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:07:00.033 --> 00:07:01.599 REBECCA: AND YOU WENT INTO THAT BATHROOM AND YOU CRIED OUT, 00:07:01.699 --> 00:07:03.633 BUT THAT SHE MODELED FOR YOU 00:07:03.733 --> 00:07:05.066 AND YOU WERE ABLE TO CRY OUT TO HIM. 00:07:05.166 --> 00:07:06.266 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:07:06.366 --> 00:07:08.033 REBECCA: AND THEN YOU EXPERIENCED THE LIQUID LOVE... 00:07:08.133 --> 00:07:08.500 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:09.133 REBECCA: OF GOD. 00:07:09.233 --> 00:07:10.099 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:10.799 PHILIP: YEAH, YOU KNOW, 00:07:10.899 --> 00:07:11.899 IT'S SO POWERFUL THAT YOU -- 00:07:11.999 --> 00:07:13.433 I LOVE THE FRAMEWORK YOU USE FOR THAT. 00:07:13.533 --> 00:07:17.066 YOU KNOW, HOW SHE CAME IN AND SHE MODELED FOR ME. 00:07:17.166 --> 00:07:18.333 YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING IT WAS GOING TO HAVE 00:07:18.433 --> 00:07:19.433 AN IMPACT ON ME. 00:07:19.533 --> 00:07:21.400 THAT'S WHY IT'S EVEN IMPORTANT FOR LIKE PEOPLE 00:07:21.500 --> 00:07:24.866 WHO'S WATCHING TO NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPACT 00:07:24.966 --> 00:07:27.932 OUR PUBLIC WITNESS CAN HAVE ON SOMEBODY ELSE. 00:07:28.032 --> 00:07:29.833 I MEAN, SHE PUTS ON THAT GOSPEL MUSIC. 00:07:29.933 --> 00:07:31.533 SHE'S WORSHIPPING JESUS. 00:07:31.633 --> 00:07:34.200 AND I SAY WHEN I WENT IN THAT BATHROOM, 00:07:34.300 --> 00:07:36.133 I WENT IN THERE WITH TEARS OF BROKENNESS, 00:07:36.233 --> 00:07:40.232 TEARS OF FRUSTRATION, TEARS OF ANGER, TEARS OF RAGE. 00:07:40.332 --> 00:07:41.866 AND WHEN THE LORD MET ME IN THAT BATHROOM, 00:07:41.966 --> 00:07:43.999 IT WAS LIKE I FELT A STRONG PRESENCE 00:07:44.099 --> 00:07:45.832 JUST ENGULF THAT ROOM. 00:07:45.932 --> 00:07:48.299 AND THEN TEARS OF ANGER BECAME TEARS OF PEACE 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:49.733 AND TEARS OF JOY. 00:07:49.833 --> 00:07:51.999 I KNEW SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED TO ME. 00:07:52.099 --> 00:07:54.733 I JUST DID NOT HAVE ANY FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT IT WAS. 00:07:54.833 --> 00:07:58.032 I DIDN'T HAVE ANY BIBLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED. 00:07:58.132 --> 00:07:59.599 REBECCA: YOUR SPIRIT KNEW, BUT YOUR MIND HAD TO CATCH UP. 00:07:59.699 --> 00:08:01.499 PHILIP: MY MIND HAD TO CATCH UP, RIGHT? 00:08:01.599 --> 00:08:03.466 AND SO I DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS CALLED. 00:08:03.566 --> 00:08:06.533 BUT LIKE HOW, HOW REAL CAN WE GET ON THE PODCAST? 00:08:06.633 --> 00:08:07.599 REBECCA: COMPLETELY REAL. 00:08:07.699 --> 00:08:08.566 PHILIP: SO WE COULD BE STRAIGHT ONE HUNDRED 00:08:08.666 --> 00:08:09.566 ON THE PODCAST, RIGHT? 00:08:09.666 --> 00:08:10.499 REBECCA: NO CENSORSHIP. 00:08:10.599 --> 00:08:11.466 PHILIP: OKAY, NO CENSORSHIP. 00:08:11.566 --> 00:08:14.732 SO SHE'S MY GIRLFRIEND AT THE TIME. 00:08:14.832 --> 00:08:17.133 I COME OUT THE BATHROOM THAT DAY AND THAT NIGHT 00:08:17.233 --> 00:08:18.466 I GO INTO THE BEDROOM. 00:08:18.566 --> 00:08:19.466 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:08:19.566 --> 00:08:21.366 AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INTIMATE THAT NIGHT. 00:08:21.466 --> 00:08:22.499 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, 00:08:22.599 --> 00:08:24.532 I FEEL CONVICTED ABOUT SIN. 00:08:24.632 --> 00:08:26.766 I'M LIKE, OH, SNAP, THIS DON'T FEEL GOOD LIKE, 00:08:26.866 --> 00:08:29.532 I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SEX FOR OVER A YEAR AND SOME 00:08:29.632 --> 00:08:32.633 CHANGE, BUT NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME I FEEL CONVICTED. 00:08:32.733 --> 00:08:34.266 AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. 00:08:34.366 --> 00:08:37.000 BUT SOMETHING ON THE INSIDE DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, RIGHT? 00:08:37.100 --> 00:08:38.500 AND I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BIBLE TO HAVE 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:39.966 A FRAMEWORK FOR THE FACT, 00:08:40.066 --> 00:08:42.033 OH, SNAP, THIS IS CONVICTION FOR SIN. 00:08:42.133 --> 00:08:43.500 SO I KNEW MY HEART HAD CHANGED, 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:44.199 BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME 00:08:44.299 --> 00:08:45.566 I FEEL BAD ABOUT THIS. 00:08:45.666 --> 00:08:46.666 AND SO I STARTED SLEEPING ON 00:08:46.766 --> 00:08:49.800 THE COUCH FOR SIX MONTHS UNTIL WE GOT MARRIED. 00:08:49.900 --> 00:08:53.166 SO WHAT I FELT HAPPEN TO ME WAS THAT GOD 00:08:53.266 --> 00:08:54.733 OVERWHELMED ME WITH HIS LOVE. 00:08:54.833 --> 00:08:56.433 I JUST FELT THIS RADICAL PEACE. 00:08:56.533 --> 00:08:58.466 I FELT THIS RADICAL JOY. 00:08:58.566 --> 00:09:01.766 I FELT THIS LIKE I WAS CALM IN MY HEART. 00:09:01.866 --> 00:09:02.832 IT'S CRAZY, TOO. 00:09:02.932 --> 00:09:06.133 BECAUSE I WAS WORKING FOR THE TSA AT THE TIME. 00:09:06.233 --> 00:09:09.033 I WAS IN THE VERY FIRST CLASS SWORN IN FOR THE TSA. 00:09:09.133 --> 00:09:11.466 I GRADUATED LIKE TWO MONTHS AFTER 911. 00:09:11.566 --> 00:09:14.966 AND THE DAY AFTER I GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST, 00:09:15.066 --> 00:09:17.466 THEY COME INTO THE JOB AND THEY DRAG ME OUT 00:09:17.566 --> 00:09:18.932 THAT JOB IN HANDCUFFS. 00:09:19.032 --> 00:09:22.333 THEY SAID I OBTAINED MY GOVERNMENT CLEARANCE UNDER 00:09:22.433 --> 00:09:26.133 FALSE PRETENSES BECAUSE I HAD A FELONY ON MY RECORD, RIGHT? 00:09:26.233 --> 00:09:28.532 AND I'M SITTING IN A JAIL CELL THE DAY AFTER I GIVE 00:09:28.632 --> 00:09:29.900 MY LIFE TO CHRIST. 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.366 BUT I'M IN THAT JAIL CELL AND 00:09:31.466 --> 00:09:32.866 ALTHOUGH THERE'S BARS IN FRONT OF ME, 00:09:32.966 --> 00:09:34.200 THERE'S NO BARS INSIDE OF ME. 00:09:34.300 --> 00:09:35.500 REBECCA: AMEN. 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.932 PHILIP: I FEEL THIS DEEP WELL OF JUST PEACE LIKE I'M JUST 00:09:39.032 --> 00:09:41.100 SETTLED IN MY HEART LIKE, LORD, 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.032 THIS IS HOW OUR JOURNEY IS GOING TO BEGIN? 00:09:43.132 --> 00:09:43.966 OKAY. 00:09:44.066 --> 00:09:46.166 OH, SO IT'S NOT ALL ROSY. 00:09:46.266 --> 00:09:47.866 MINE'S STARTING WITH TROUBLE. 00:09:47.966 --> 00:09:49.832 BUT I FEEL PEACE IN THE TROUBLE. 00:09:49.932 --> 00:09:50.832 AND SO WHAT I FELT 00:09:50.932 --> 00:09:52.400 FROM GOD WAS A LIQUID LOVE. 00:09:52.500 --> 00:09:53.599 I JUST LOVE THE WAY YOU FRAMED THAT. 00:09:53.699 --> 00:09:54.233 YEAH. 00:09:54.333 --> 00:09:55.433 IT WAS A LIQUID LOVE. 00:09:55.533 --> 00:09:56.133 IT CHANGED MY LIFE. 00:09:56.233 --> 00:09:57.133 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:09:57.233 --> 00:10:00.000 MY HUSBAND HAS A SIMILAR TESTIMONY WHERE HE 00:10:00.100 --> 00:10:02.333 SAID IT WAS LIQUID LOVE AND HE CALLED, HE CALLED 00:10:02.433 --> 00:10:05.133 OUT TO GOD IN DESPAIR AND GOD MET HIM. 00:10:05.233 --> 00:10:07.666 AND THAT'S WHAT I LOVE IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT, 00:10:07.766 --> 00:10:08.566 YOU KNOW, I LOVE CHURCH. 00:10:08.666 --> 00:10:09.766 I LOVE CHURCH SERVICES. 00:10:09.866 --> 00:10:12.999 I LOVE MINISTRY, BUT IT BOILS DOWN TO RELATIONSHIP. 00:10:13.099 --> 00:10:14.166 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:10:14.266 --> 00:10:15.899 REBECCA: AND WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH GOD. 00:10:15.999 --> 00:10:17.466 WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENCOUNTER WITH GOD. 00:10:17.566 --> 00:10:18.666 WE NEED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. 00:10:18.766 --> 00:10:19.666 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:10:19.766 --> 00:10:20.399 REBECCA: THAT'S WHERE THE SHIFT HAPPENS. 00:10:20.499 --> 00:10:21.266 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:10:21.366 --> 00:10:22.400 REBECCA: AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE 00:10:22.500 --> 00:10:24.299 IS OVERFLOW FROM THE RELATIONSHIP. 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.099 THAT'S WHERE MINISTRY COMES FROM. 00:10:26.199 --> 00:10:27.199 PHILIP: THAT'S POWERFUL WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 00:10:27.299 --> 00:10:28.366 LIKE TWO THINGS RIGHT THERE, 00:10:28.466 --> 00:10:29.499 I THINK IT'S SO POWERFUL. 00:10:29.599 --> 00:10:31.633 I THINK THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY 00:10:31.733 --> 00:10:33.866 CAN'T GET CLOSE TO GOD UNLESS THEY'RE INSIDE OF A 00:10:33.966 --> 00:10:36.132 CHURCH SERVICE OR A CHURCH GATHERING. 00:10:36.232 --> 00:10:38.399 LIKE GOD IS NOT LIMITED TO A BUILDING AND HE'S NOT 00:10:38.499 --> 00:10:40.333 LIMITED TO A SERVICE, RIGHT? 00:10:40.433 --> 00:10:44.599 GOD CAN MEET A HUMAN BEING ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME. 00:10:44.699 --> 00:10:45.932 IT CAN BE SOMEONE IN THE ARMY. 00:10:46.032 --> 00:10:47.333 SOMEBODY ON THE BATTLEFIELD. 00:10:47.433 --> 00:10:48.466 FOR ME, IT WAS A BATHROOM. 00:10:48.566 --> 00:10:49.866 FOR YOUR HUSBAND IT WAS? 00:10:49.966 --> 00:10:51.132 REBECCA: COLLEGE. 00:10:51.232 --> 00:10:52.732 PHILIP: COLLEGE, RIGHT, ON A CAMPUS IN A DORM BY HIMSELF, 00:10:52.832 --> 00:10:54.166 RIGHT? 00:10:54.266 --> 00:10:56.566 SO IT CAN BE ANYWHERE THAT GOD CAN -- 00:10:56.666 --> 00:10:59.532 HE'S LOVING ENOUGH AND PATIENT ENOUGH AND CARING 00:10:59.632 --> 00:11:02.666 ENOUGH TO MEET US WHERE WE ARE ANYWHERE. 00:11:02.766 --> 00:11:04.566 LIKE THERE'S SOMEBODY WATCHING THIS PODCAST 00:11:04.666 --> 00:11:07.466 RIGHT NOW WHO THINKS THAT THEY'RE SO FAR GONE, 00:11:07.566 --> 00:11:08.499 GOD CAN'T REACH THEM. 00:11:08.599 --> 00:11:10.533 LIKE THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S IN PROSTITUTION. 00:11:10.633 --> 00:11:12.600 THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S SELLING DRUGS. 00:11:12.700 --> 00:11:14.266 THERE'S SOMEONE LISTENING TO US RIGHT NOW WHO IS SO 00:11:14.366 --> 00:11:17.532 FAR AWAY THAT THEY THINK GOD WILL NEVER, NEVER MINISTER 00:11:17.632 --> 00:11:19.633 OR TALK TO A PERSON LIKE ME. 00:11:19.733 --> 00:11:20.399 AND WE KNOW THAT THIS 00:11:20.499 --> 00:11:21.900 IS A CATEGORICAL LIE. 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.966 THAT GOD IS NOT AGAINST MEETING 00:11:25.066 --> 00:11:26.766 SOMEONE WHEREVER THEY ARE. 00:11:26.866 --> 00:11:27.899 HE WILL COME AND MEET YOU. 00:11:27.999 --> 00:11:29.499 SO I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY POWERFUL 00:11:29.599 --> 00:11:30.899 THAT HE WOULD DO THAT. 00:11:30.999 --> 00:11:32.499 BUT THEN THE OTHER THING, TOO, THAT 00:11:32.599 --> 00:11:36.400 I THINK IS VERY POWERFUL ABOUT ALL OF THAT IS THAT 00:11:36.500 --> 00:11:40.366 JUST US HAVING THIS SENSE OF LIKE WHEN I, WHEN I 00:11:40.466 --> 00:11:41.600 THINK ABOUT IT 00:11:41.700 --> 00:11:46.166 LIKE CHRIST FILLED A VOID THAT WAS IN 00:11:46.266 --> 00:11:49.700 MY HEART THAT THESE OTHER THINGS WAS NOT FILLING. 00:11:49.800 --> 00:11:52.100 AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE BELIEVER 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.133 AND FOR THE UNBELIEVER WHO FEELS LIKE WE HAVE TO 00:11:55.233 --> 00:11:58.033 OBTAIN ALL THESE THINGS FOR US TO BE FULLY SATISFIED. 00:11:58.133 --> 00:11:59.066 LIKE CAN I BE, 00:11:59.166 --> 00:12:00.366 CAN I BE ONE HUNDRED RIGHT HERE? 00:12:00.466 --> 00:12:01.699 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:03.033 PHILIP: LIKE I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT 00:12:03.133 --> 00:12:06.100 THE FACT THAT IN OUR GENERATION, 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.533 WE THINK WE NEED TRINKETS AND TOYS TO BE FULLY 00:12:08.633 --> 00:12:10.633 SATISFIED LIKE, LIKE 00:12:10.733 --> 00:12:11.766 COME ON, MAN. 00:12:11.866 --> 00:12:14.299 LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:15.666 AND YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE EMPTINESS THERE 00:12:15.766 --> 00:12:17.400 IF CHRIST IS NOT AT THE CENTER, RIGHT? 00:12:17.500 --> 00:12:18.332 REBECCA: ABSOLUTELY. 00:12:18.432 --> 00:12:19.433 PHILIP: AND SO I FEEL LIKE YOU CAN GET 00:12:19.533 --> 00:12:21.233 THE BIG INSTAGRAM FOLLOWING, 00:12:21.333 --> 00:12:23.066 YOU CAN GET THE BIG PLATFORMS. 00:12:23.166 --> 00:12:24.132 YOU CAN DO ALL OF THAT. 00:12:24.232 --> 00:12:25.766 IF CHRIST IS NOT AT THE CENTER, 00:12:25.866 --> 00:12:27.066 WE'RE STILL GOING TO FEEL EMPTY. 00:12:27.166 --> 00:12:28.266 AND SO WHEN I JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT HE DID 00:12:28.366 --> 00:12:29.800 FOR ME IN THAT BATHROOM, 00:12:29.900 --> 00:12:32.366 HE'S CONTINUING TO DO THAT FOR ME. 00:12:32.466 --> 00:12:34.466 IN WHICH I'M LEARNING THAT WATCH, REBECCA, 00:12:34.566 --> 00:12:36.599 HE IS THE REWARD, RIGHT? 00:12:36.699 --> 00:12:40.266 CHRIST HIMSELF IS THE REWARD. 00:12:40.366 --> 00:12:42.866 AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T SEE HIM AS A REWARD, 00:12:42.966 --> 00:12:45.466 WE WILL SPEND A LIFETIME IN OUR FAITH 00:12:45.566 --> 00:12:47.732 CHASING THINGS TO TRY TO SATISFY SOMETHING IN OUR 00:12:47.832 --> 00:12:51.833 HEARTS THAT ONLY JESUS HIMSELF CAN FILL AND SATISFY. 00:12:51.933 --> 00:12:52.999 REBECCA: HE IS THE REWARD. 00:12:53.099 --> 00:12:55.866 PAUL TALKS ABOUT THAT AND IT'S WHY HE RUNS THE RACE. 00:12:55.966 --> 00:12:56.699 PHILIP: COME ON. 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.033 REBECCA: YOU KNOW AND I THINK -- 00:12:58.133 --> 00:12:58.699 PHILIP: YOU'RE DIGGING IN MY FAVORITE SCRIPTURES RIGHT HERE. 00:12:58.833 --> 00:12:59.633 COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, 00:12:59.733 --> 00:13:00.533 WE'RE DIGGING. 00:13:00.633 --> 00:13:02.000 REBECCA: BUT GOD'S BEEN TEACHING ME, 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:03.533 JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO 00:13:03.633 --> 00:13:04.766 I THINK SUCH AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE, 00:13:04.866 --> 00:13:05.899 WHICH IS YOU HIT 00:13:05.999 --> 00:13:07.432 KIND OF THE DARKEST SEASON YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN, 00:13:07.532 --> 00:13:08.066 IN MINISTRY. 00:13:08.166 --> 00:13:09.100 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:09.866 REBECCA: WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT POINT. 00:13:09.966 --> 00:13:11.599 BUT WHAT GOD IS TEACHING ME 00:13:11.699 --> 00:13:15.932 NOW IS JESUS ENDURED, ENDURED THE HARDEST THING 00:13:16.032 --> 00:13:18.366 GOING ON THE CROSS, BEING SEPARATED FROM HIS FATHER. 00:13:18.466 --> 00:13:19.166 NEVER IN HIS LIFE 00:13:19.266 --> 00:13:20.233 HE HAD EVER EXPERIENCED THAT. 00:13:20.333 --> 00:13:21.433 THAT WAS THE WORST PART OF THE CROSS. 00:13:21.533 --> 00:13:22.499 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:13:22.599 --> 00:13:24.666 REBECCA: AND HE ENDURED THAT FOR THE JOY... 00:13:24.766 --> 00:13:25.532 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:13:25.632 --> 00:13:26.200 REBECCA: THAT WAS SET BEFORE HIM. 00:13:26.300 --> 00:13:27.133 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:13:27.233 --> 00:13:27.799 REBECCA: AND I JUST HAD MY DAUGHTER, 00:13:27.899 --> 00:13:28.933 HER MIDDLE NAME IS JOY. 00:13:29.033 --> 00:13:30.833 AND I FEEL LIKE GOD IS TEACHING ME 00:13:30.933 --> 00:13:31.933 I AM THE JOY. 00:13:32.033 --> 00:13:33.166 RUN THE RACE. 00:13:33.266 --> 00:13:33.766 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:13:33.866 --> 00:13:34.699 REBECCA: UNTANGLED. 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:35.866 DON'T -- STAY IN YOUR LANE. 00:13:35.966 --> 00:13:36.633 KEEP GOING. 00:13:36.733 --> 00:13:37.800 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:13:37.900 --> 00:13:39.566 REBECCA: BUT YOU'RE WHAT MOTIVATES YOU TO KEEP GOING 00:13:39.666 --> 00:13:41.666 WHEN THINGS SEEM DARK OR WHEN THINGS SEEM DIFFICULT, 00:13:41.766 --> 00:13:43.766 IS THAT JOY KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO STAND 00:13:43.866 --> 00:13:45.432 BEFORE HIM AND HE'S THE PRIZE. 00:13:45.532 --> 00:13:47.999 AND THAT WE CAN SAY WELL DONE, GOOD AND FAITHFUL SERVANT. 00:13:48.099 --> 00:13:49.466 LIKE I DID WHAT YOU CALLED ME TO DO. 00:13:49.566 --> 00:13:50.299 PHILIP: YOU KNOW WHAT'S SO POWERFUL 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:51.333 ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 00:13:51.433 --> 00:13:53.966 IS THAT LIKE WHEN IT SAYS THAT HE ENDURED 00:13:54.066 --> 00:13:55.166 THE CROSS FOR THE JOY 00:13:55.266 --> 00:13:56.599 THAT WAS SET BEFORE HIM, 00:13:56.699 --> 00:13:57.866 LIKE HE HAD YOU IN MIND. 00:13:57.966 --> 00:13:59.066 REBECCA: I KNOW. 00:13:59.166 --> 00:14:00.966 PHILIP: ISN'T THAT CRAZY AND HE HAD ME IN MIND, RIGHT? 00:14:01.066 --> 00:14:02.466 IT'S LIKE -- 00:14:02.566 --> 00:14:03.666 IT'S LIKE WHAT IS HIS JOY? 00:14:03.766 --> 00:14:05.800 LIKE HE'S NOT ENDURING THE CROSS BECAUSE HE WAS 00:14:05.900 --> 00:14:06.899 A SINNER, RIGHT? 00:14:06.999 --> 00:14:07.766 REBECCA: NO. 00:14:07.866 --> 00:14:08.499 PHILIP: HE'S NOT ENDURING THE CROSS 00:14:08.599 --> 00:14:10.466 BECAUSE HE WAS UNRIGHTEOUS. 00:14:10.566 --> 00:14:11.566 HE'S NOT ENDURING THE CROSS 00:14:11.666 --> 00:14:13.166 BECAUSE HE COMMITTED ANY WRONGS. 00:14:13.266 --> 00:14:15.000 I MEAN, THINKING WHEN HE'S ENDURING THE CROSS, 00:14:15.100 --> 00:14:16.533 HE SEES REBECCA. 00:14:16.633 --> 00:14:17.966 HE SEES PHILIP. 00:14:18.066 --> 00:14:18.866 HE SEES US. 00:14:18.966 --> 00:14:20.599 SO PART OF THAT JOY WAS THE PEOPLE 00:14:20.699 --> 00:14:23.466 HE SAW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT SACRIFICE THAT 00:14:23.566 --> 00:14:25.233 WOULD COME INTO THE FAMILY OF FAITH 00:14:25.333 --> 00:14:26.299 BECAUSE OF THAT SACRIFICE. 00:14:26.433 --> 00:14:28.633 SO YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE I WAS PART OF THE JOY THAT 00:14:28.733 --> 00:14:30.066 HE, THAT HE SAW. 00:14:30.166 --> 00:14:31.633 AND YOU WERE PART OF THE JOY THAT HE SAW. 00:14:31.733 --> 00:14:32.733 AND THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE 00:14:32.833 --> 00:14:35.632 WHO NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WAS ON HIS MIND 00:14:35.732 --> 00:14:36.800 WHEN HE WENT TO THAT CROSS. 00:14:36.900 --> 00:14:38.700 WE WAS A PART OF THE JOY THAT HE SAW. 00:14:38.800 --> 00:14:40.266 SO FOR THE JOY, 00:14:40.366 --> 00:14:41.666 HE SAW YOU AND I, MAN, 00:14:41.766 --> 00:14:45.133 HE ENDURED THAT CROSS TO PROVIDE A WAY OF 00:14:45.233 --> 00:14:48.099 ESCAPE FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION FOR REBECCA 00:14:48.199 --> 00:14:50.333 AND FOR PHILIP AND FOR THE BILLIONS OF PEOPLE, THE 00:14:50.433 --> 00:14:53.300 WORLD OVER, WHO HAVE COME TO FAITH IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. 00:14:53.400 --> 00:14:54.133 ISN'T THAT POWERFUL? 00:14:54.233 --> 00:14:55.666 REBECCA: NO, IT'S SO TRUE. 00:14:55.766 --> 00:14:57.800 AND I WAS JUST LOOKING THAT UP IN MY QUIET TIME 00:14:57.900 --> 00:15:00.066 BECAUSE HE WAS BEGINNING TO, YOU KNOW, DOWNLOAD THIS 00:15:00.166 --> 00:15:02.466 TO ME, UNFOLD THIS TO ME, AND SO I WAS RESEARCHING 00:15:02.566 --> 00:15:03.532 WHAT WAS THE JOY? 00:15:03.632 --> 00:15:06.100 AND HE SAID, PART OF THE JOY WAS THE PEOPLE HE 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:07.300 WOULD BRING INTO THE FAMILY OF GOD. 00:15:07.400 --> 00:15:08.600 PHILIP: COME ON, SEE, WE'RE IN THE SPIRIT RIGHT NOW. 00:15:08.700 --> 00:15:09.666 REBECCA: YEAH, 00:15:09.766 --> 00:15:11.600 AND THAT'S THE -- I FEEL LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS 00:15:11.700 --> 00:15:14.433 THAT REALLY SPOKE TO ME IS OUT OF ALL THE THINGS THAT 00:15:14.533 --> 00:15:16.300 GOD ASKED TO BE CALLED BY US, 00:15:16.400 --> 00:15:17.233 HE CHOSE FATHER. 00:15:17.333 --> 00:15:18.433 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:15:18.533 --> 00:15:19.899 REBECCA: AND SO THE MOST ACCURATE WAY OF UNDERSTANDING 00:15:19.999 --> 00:15:21.933 GOD IS GOD THE FATHER 00:15:22.033 --> 00:15:23.466 JESUS BEING THE SON OF GOD, 00:15:23.566 --> 00:15:25.500 AND WE EVEN SEE THAT DIALOGUE BETWEEN THEM. 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:26.899 IT WAS A FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIP. 00:15:26.999 --> 00:15:29.266 AND HOW WE ARE ADOPTED INTO THE FAMILY OF GOD AND 00:15:29.366 --> 00:15:31.800 HOW IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT IDENTITY. 00:15:31.900 --> 00:15:34.866 BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET INTO, EVEN IN MINISTRY, IF YOU BEGIN TO 00:15:34.966 --> 00:15:37.832 EXPERIENCE SUCCESS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES SUCCESS IN 00:15:37.932 --> 00:15:39.933 MINISTRY ISN'T EVEN SUCCESS BY KINGDOM STANDARDS. 00:15:40.033 --> 00:15:40.999 THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION. 00:15:41.099 --> 00:15:42.199 PHILIP: OH, MAN, THAT'S A BIG CONVERSATION. 00:15:42.299 --> 00:15:44.233 WE MIGHT NEED TO JUST -- WE NEED TO PUT A PIN IN THAT 00:15:44.333 --> 00:15:44.899 AND COME BACK TO THAT. 00:15:44.999 --> 00:15:46.099 YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 00:15:46.199 --> 00:15:48.600 REBECCA: BUT IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHOSE YOU ARE... 00:15:48.700 --> 00:15:49.733 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:15:49.833 --> 00:15:50.866 REBECCA: AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR VALUE 00:15:50.966 --> 00:15:53.466 ISN'T BY WHAT YOU DO, BUT BELONGING TO HIM, 00:15:53.566 --> 00:15:54.999 YOU'LL BE SEARCHING FOR IDENTITY 00:15:55.099 --> 00:15:56.699 AND PURPOSE IN WHAT YOU DO 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:58.266 AND THROUGH THE ACCOLADES OF PEOPLE. 00:15:58.366 --> 00:15:59.399 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:15:59.499 --> 00:16:00.833 REBECCA: AND THEN IF IT'S DEPENDENT ON THAT, YOU'RE 00:16:00.933 --> 00:16:01.866 GOING TO GET DISAPPOINTED. 00:16:01.966 --> 00:16:02.766 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:16:02.866 --> 00:16:03.899 AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S ALSO VERY 00:16:03.999 --> 00:16:05.199 SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THAT? 00:16:05.299 --> 00:16:06.933 THE UNKNOWN WRITER OF HEBREWS, RIGHT? 00:16:07.033 --> 00:16:09.133 IN HEBREWS CHAPTER 12, 00:16:09.233 --> 00:16:10.266 HE'S MAKING A -- 00:16:10.366 --> 00:16:12.266 THE PHILIP ANTHONY MITCHELL TRANSLATION, RIGHT? 00:16:12.366 --> 00:16:14.399 HE'S MAKING A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE HEAVENLY 00:16:14.499 --> 00:16:16.400 FATHER AND EARTHLY FATHERS. 00:16:16.500 --> 00:16:18.399 SO HE'S MAKING THIS THIS COMPARISON. 00:16:18.499 --> 00:16:21.333 AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE TEXT CAREFULLY, 00:16:21.433 --> 00:16:22.300 WE SEE THAT EARTHLY 00:16:22.400 --> 00:16:24.633 FATHERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A PROTOTYPE 00:16:24.733 --> 00:16:25.566 OF THE HEAVENLY FATHER. 00:16:25.666 --> 00:16:28.366 HE'S USING DISCIPLINE AND LOVE, RIGHT? 00:16:28.466 --> 00:16:29.566 SO EVEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 00:16:29.666 --> 00:16:30.400 WHAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL 00:16:30.500 --> 00:16:32.133 IS THAT THE LORD REVEALED 00:16:32.233 --> 00:16:33.666 GOD TO US AS A FATHER. 00:16:33.766 --> 00:16:36.366 THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THE BATTLE THAT THE ENEMY 00:16:36.466 --> 00:16:39.066 IS WAGING WAR IN SOCIETY TO RUIN 00:16:39.166 --> 00:16:41.132 THE IMAGE OF FATHER, RIGHT? 00:16:41.232 --> 00:16:43.532 SO EVEN LIKE WHEN I WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER LIKE 50% OF 00:16:43.632 --> 00:16:45.933 MY STUDENTS WAS NEVER RAISED WITH A FATHER. 00:16:46.033 --> 00:16:48.066 SO YOU THINK ABOUT LIKE EVEN IN THE AVERAGE HOME, 00:16:48.166 --> 00:16:50.166 LIKE WHO'S THE DEVIL COMING FOR FIRST? 00:16:50.266 --> 00:16:51.132 HE'S COMING FOR THAT MAN. 00:16:51.232 --> 00:16:52.166 HE'S COMING FOR THAT FATHER. 00:16:52.266 --> 00:16:53.533 THE DEVIL'S DOING EVERYTHING 00:16:53.633 --> 00:16:58.466 HE CAN TO RUIN THE IMAGE OF FATHERHOOD IN OUR SOCIETY. 00:16:58.566 --> 00:17:00.433 SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO RELATION WITH GOD, 00:17:00.533 --> 00:17:03.033 IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO CONNECT WITH GOD AS A FATHER. 00:17:03.133 --> 00:17:04.566 SO THEY -- WHEN THEY HEAR THE WORD FATHER, 00:17:04.666 --> 00:17:06.166 THEY THINK REJECTION. 00:17:06.266 --> 00:17:07.166 WHEN THEY HEAR THE WORD FATHER, 00:17:07.266 --> 00:17:08.366 THEY THINK ABANDONMENT. 00:17:08.466 --> 00:17:09.500 WHEN THEY HEAR THE WORD FATHER, 00:17:09.600 --> 00:17:10.999 THEY THINK NOT DEPENDABLE. 00:17:11.099 --> 00:17:12.000 WHEN THEY HEAR THE WORD FATHER, 00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:13.066 THEY THINK ALL THESE THINGS. 00:17:13.166 --> 00:17:16.699 BUT THIS IS WHO GOD REVEALED HIMSELF US TO US 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:18.166 THROUGH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AS FATHER. 00:17:18.266 --> 00:17:21.166 THAT KIND OF ABBA IN GREEK, THAT WARM, 00:17:21.266 --> 00:17:23.366 THAT WE CAN CLIMB UP ON HIS LAP IN PRAYER 00:17:23.466 --> 00:17:24.632 AND BE CLOSE TO HIM. 00:17:24.732 --> 00:17:27.699 SO I THINK, I THINK JUST AS BEAUTIFUL AS JESUS REVEALED 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:28.866 THE FATHER TO US, 00:17:28.966 --> 00:17:31.799 I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO BE AWARE OF THE ENEMY'S PLOT 00:17:31.899 --> 00:17:34.766 TO DESTROY THE IMAGE OF FATHER IN SOCIETY. 00:17:34.866 --> 00:17:37.166 IT'S WHY WE SHOULD BE PRAYING FOR OUR FATHERS 00:17:37.266 --> 00:17:38.266 AND BELIEVING FOR OUR FATHERS 00:17:38.366 --> 00:17:39.632 AND ENCOURAGING OUR FATHERS 00:17:39.732 --> 00:17:41.400 THAT THEIR ROLE IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN JUST 00:17:41.500 --> 00:17:43.933 BEING A PHYSICAL PROVIDER OR JUST BEING 00:17:44.033 --> 00:17:45.133 THE PROGENITOR OF CHILDREN. 00:17:45.233 --> 00:17:46.899 NO, THAT YOU SEAT YOU SIT IN 00:17:46.999 --> 00:17:48.999 IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THOSE CHILDREN. 00:17:49.099 --> 00:17:51.333 MAN, THERE'S SOME FATHERS WATCHING US RIGHT NOW THAT 00:17:51.433 --> 00:17:53.466 WE JUST NEED TO ENCOURAGE THAT, BRO, 00:17:53.566 --> 00:17:55.299 LISTEN TO ME. 00:17:55.399 --> 00:17:56.000 I DON'T EVEN KNOW 00:17:56.100 --> 00:17:56.532 IF THERE'S A CAMERA ON ME. 00:17:56.632 --> 00:17:58.166 LISTEN, THAT SEAT 00:17:58.266 --> 00:18:03.499 YOU SIT IN IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:04.699 THOSE CHILDREN YOU HAVE 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.433 ARE NOT JUST OFFSPRING TO THROW AWAY, MAN. 00:18:07.533 --> 00:18:10.033 WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT 00:18:10.133 --> 00:18:12.666 WE'RE HAVING ON THESE LITTLE ONES WHO WILL COME 00:18:12.766 --> 00:18:15.566 TO KNOW GOD ONE DAY FOR THEMSELVES AND THEN WHAT 00:18:15.666 --> 00:18:17.532 WOULD WE HAVE TAUGHT THEM THROUGH THE WAY THAT WE LIVE. 00:18:17.632 --> 00:18:19.666 NOW, IF YOU FEEL LIKE HE WAS A BAD FATHER, 00:18:19.766 --> 00:18:20.600 THERE'S GRACE FOR THAT. 00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:21.899 BUT FOR THE YOUNG FATHERS, 00:18:21.999 --> 00:18:23.766 MEN WHO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, MAN, 00:18:23.866 --> 00:18:24.899 WE GOTTA TAKE SERIOUSLY 00:18:24.999 --> 00:18:26.033 WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN US LIKE. 00:18:26.133 --> 00:18:30.599 LIKE THIS GENERATION WE WANT PLATFORMS AND TITLES 00:18:30.699 --> 00:18:32.032 AND ALL THIS STUFF, MAN. 00:18:32.132 --> 00:18:33.766 MAN, ONE OF THE GREATEST CALLINGS 00:18:33.866 --> 00:18:37.299 WE HAVE IS TO BE A PARENT, IS TO BE A FATHER. 00:18:37.399 --> 00:18:39.066 SO JUST I DON'T KNOW WHO'S WATCHING THIS, SOMEBODY NEEDS -- 00:18:39.166 --> 00:18:39.966 SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE MAD 00:18:40.066 --> 00:18:41.032 THAT I TALK LIKE THAT. 00:18:41.132 --> 00:18:45.132 JUST TAKE THE CALLING OF BEING A FATHER SERIOUS 00:18:45.232 --> 00:18:46.733 BECAUSE YOU NEVER UNDERSTAND THE KINGDOM 00:18:46.833 --> 00:18:47.733 IMPACT OF YOU 00:18:47.833 --> 00:18:50.332 JUST BEING A GOOD PROTOTYPE OF THE FATHER 00:18:50.432 --> 00:18:52.466 THEY'RE GOING TO MEET ONE DAY WHEN THEY KNOW JESUS 00:18:52.566 --> 00:18:54.633 FOR THEMSELF AND THEY KNOW GOD FOR THEMSELVES. 00:18:54.733 --> 00:18:56.733 REBECCA: AND GOD, THAT MESSAGE IS SO TRUE. 00:18:56.833 --> 00:18:58.933 THERE IS SUCH AN ATTACK ON FATHERS. 00:18:59.033 --> 00:19:00.232 FATHERLESSNESS IS ONE 00:19:00.332 --> 00:19:01.799 OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IN SOCIETY. 00:19:01.899 --> 00:19:02.400 PHILIP: IT'S RAMPANT. 00:19:02.500 --> 00:19:03.433 IT'S RAMPANT. 00:19:03.533 --> 00:19:05.433 REBECCA: AND IT IS CALCULATED BY THE ENEMY 00:19:05.533 --> 00:19:07.233 AND HOW HE SHIFTED CULTURE. 00:19:07.333 --> 00:19:08.333 BUT I FEEL LIKE PART OF -- 00:19:08.433 --> 00:19:09.499 BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL ABOUT REVIVAL. 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:11.266 I THINK A HUGE ASPECT OF REVIVAL 00:19:11.366 --> 00:19:13.199 IS THE REVIVAL OF THE FAMILY. 00:19:13.299 --> 00:19:14.466 PHILIP: OH, YOU BETTER TALK ABOUT IT, REBECCA, COME ON. 00:19:14.566 --> 00:19:16.699 REBECCA: AND HOW GOD IS GLORIFIED THROUGH THAT AND 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:18.233 HOW THEY'RE CONNECTED. 00:19:18.333 --> 00:19:19.566 AND EVEN IN PRAYER, 00:19:19.666 --> 00:19:21.866 ONE OF THE THINGS I FEEL LIKE GOD HAS SHOWN ME IS HE'S LIKE, 00:19:21.966 --> 00:19:23.100 HE SAID, I'M ALL ABOUT FAMILY. 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:24.299 PHILIP: COME ON. 00:19:24.399 --> 00:19:25.599 REBECCA: BECAUSE HE SAID I'M THE GOD OF YOUR FATHER'S. 00:19:25.699 --> 00:19:27.533 YOU KNOW, HE'S ALWAYS SPOKEN TO US RELATIONALLY. 00:19:27.633 --> 00:19:28.699 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:31.066 REBECCA: AND SO GOD WANTS TO SEE THE FAMILY RESTORED. 00:19:31.166 --> 00:19:31.766 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:19:31.866 --> 00:19:32.266 REBECCA: AND HE CAN DO IT. 00:19:32.366 --> 00:19:33.366 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:19:33.466 --> 00:19:35.832 NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY IS HE THE GOD OF FAMILIES, 00:19:35.932 --> 00:19:37.733 BUT WHAT'S SO POWERFUL IS LIKE SO REMEMBER WHEN PAUL 00:19:37.833 --> 00:19:39.966 IS WRITING TO THE CHURCH IN EPHESUS, RIGHT? 00:19:40.066 --> 00:19:41.299 HE SAYS SOMETHING VERY POWERFUL. 00:19:41.399 --> 00:19:41.933 WHEN HE WRITES TO 00:19:42.033 --> 00:19:43.033 THE CHURCH IN EPHESUS, 00:19:43.133 --> 00:19:46.199 HE TELLS US THAT MARRIAGE IS NOT JUST ONLY A UNION 00:19:46.299 --> 00:19:47.366 BETWEEN A HUSBAND AND A WIFE, 00:19:47.466 --> 00:19:49.233 BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A PICTURE OF CHRIST 00:19:49.333 --> 00:19:50.599 IN THE CHURCH, RIGHT? 00:19:50.699 --> 00:19:52.766 SO WHEREVER THERE IS A GODLY MARRIAGE, 00:19:52.866 --> 00:19:55.800 THERE IS A PICTURE OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE CHURCH. 00:19:55.900 --> 00:19:57.866 SO NOT ONLY IS THE ENEMY FIGHTING FATHERS, 00:19:57.966 --> 00:19:59.933 BUT I THINK HE'S ALSO FIGHTING MARRIAGE. 00:20:00.033 --> 00:20:01.199 SO IF HE COULD DESTROY FATHERHOOD, 00:20:01.299 --> 00:20:03.399 HE MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO CONNECT WITH GOD 00:20:03.499 --> 00:20:04.966 AND UNDERSTAND GOD AS A FATHER. 00:20:05.066 --> 00:20:07.866 BUT IF HE COULD DESTROY MARRIAGE, THEN HE RUINS 00:20:07.966 --> 00:20:10.433 THE IMAGE IN THE EARTH OF CHRIST IN THE CHURCH. 00:20:10.533 --> 00:20:12.599 SO, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND OR MY 00:20:12.699 --> 00:20:14.433 WIFE AND I, WE'RE NOT -- 00:20:14.533 --> 00:20:16.833 WE DON'T JUST HAVE JUST A MATRIMONY. 00:20:16.933 --> 00:20:19.699 WE HAVE TOGETHER A PICTURE OF CHRIST IN THE CHURCH. 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:22.899 AND THIS IS WHY, I DON'T KNOW, I'M ABOUT TO GET IN 00:20:22.999 --> 00:20:24.066 TROUBLE ON YOUR PODCAST. 00:20:24.166 --> 00:20:24.699 REBECCA: DO IT. 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:25.200 PHILIP: ARE YOU SURE? 00:20:25.300 --> 00:20:26.133 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:20:26.233 --> 00:20:27.132 PHILIP: YOU'RE GIVING ME PERMISSION? 00:20:27.232 --> 00:20:29.333 REBECCA: COMPLETE PERMISSION. 00:20:29.433 --> 00:20:33.399 PHILIP: THIS IS WHY LIKE, 00:20:33.499 --> 00:20:35.999 THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO BE SMART ABOUT OUR ELECTED 00:20:36.099 --> 00:20:41.900 OFFICIALS, HOW WE VOTE, HOW WE PRAY AND UNDERSTAND 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.032 THAT ALL THIS STUFF MATTERS. 00:20:43.132 --> 00:20:44.532 ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN SOCIETY WHO ARE 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:49.532 WORKING OVERTIME TO DESTROY THE IMAGE OF MARRIAGE. 00:20:49.632 --> 00:20:50.999 SINCE WHEN DOES HUMAN BEINGS HAVE 00:20:51.099 --> 00:20:53.566 THE RIGHT TO REDEFINE 00:20:53.666 --> 00:20:55.600 WHAT GOD HAS CREATED? 00:20:55.700 --> 00:20:56.666 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:20:56.766 --> 00:20:58.466 PHILIP: YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN THE NAME OF LOVE. 00:20:58.566 --> 00:21:00.732 YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN THE NAME OF FILLING A BLANK. 00:21:00.832 --> 00:21:02.899 WE'RE DOING THAT IN THE NAME OF IGNORANCE AND IT'S 00:21:02.999 --> 00:21:06.166 GOING TO COST A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY DIE. 00:21:06.266 --> 00:21:09.499 AND YOU GOTTA STAND IN FRONT OF THE GOD WHO GAVE US 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:11.299 BIBLICAL MARRIAGE IN THE BEGINNING. 00:21:11.399 --> 00:21:13.699 THIS IS NOT ME BEING ANTI A COMMUNITY. 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:14.699 I LOVE ALL PEOPLE. 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:17.099 THIS IS ME BEING ANTI-DECEPTION. 00:21:17.199 --> 00:21:18.733 AND THAT WHAT THE ENEMY IS DOING IS NOT ONLY 00:21:18.833 --> 00:21:20.266 WREAKING HAVOC WITH FATHERS, 00:21:20.366 --> 00:21:22.466 BUT HE'S ALSO WREAKING HAVOC WITH MARRIAGE. 00:21:22.566 --> 00:21:24.633 SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE LAWS AND WE'VE TRIED TO 00:21:24.733 --> 00:21:26.132 REDEFINE IT AND ALL THESE THINGS. 00:21:26.232 --> 00:21:27.632 AND WHAT WE DO IS 00:21:27.732 --> 00:21:30.666 THE ENEMY'S PLOY TO USE LOVE AS AN ATTEMPT TO 00:21:30.766 --> 00:21:35.333 REDEFINE AN IMAGE THAT GOD ESTABLISHED. 00:21:35.433 --> 00:21:38.500 AND WHAT SHOULD GO OUT OF OUR HEARTS IS NOT JUST 00:21:38.600 --> 00:21:39.699 PICKETING AND HATE. 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:43.233 BUT LOVE THAT MOVES US TO PRAYER BOTH 00:21:43.333 --> 00:21:45.666 FOR THE RESTORATION OF BIBLICAL MARRIAGE, 00:21:45.766 --> 00:21:48.333 BUT ALSO FOR THE SALVATION AND THE OPENING OF THE 00:21:48.433 --> 00:21:50.666 EYES OF THOSE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A 00:21:50.766 --> 00:21:53.199 PICTURE OF SOMETHING GOD CREATED THAT REPRESENTS 00:21:53.299 --> 00:21:54.433 CHRIST AND THE CHURCH. 00:21:54.533 --> 00:21:55.866 I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET HATE MAIL. 00:21:55.966 --> 00:21:56.966 PEOPLE GOING TO 00:21:57.066 --> 00:21:58.099 TRY DM ME AND ALL THAT STUFF AND I DON'T CARE. 00:21:58.199 --> 00:21:59.933 SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE 00:22:00.033 --> 00:22:03.133 BELIEVING COMMUNITY TODAY NEEDS TO FIGHT 00:22:03.233 --> 00:22:04.299 FOR BIBLICAL MARRIAGE. 00:22:04.399 --> 00:22:05.166 REBECCA: OH, ABSOLUTELY. 00:22:05.266 --> 00:22:06.800 PHILIP: IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 00:22:06.900 --> 00:22:08.366 BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SOCIETY, 00:22:08.466 --> 00:22:10.233 THAT'S GOING TO FLOURISH AND BE WHOLE, 00:22:10.333 --> 00:22:12.366 WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR BIBLICAL MARRIAGE AND WE HAVE TO 00:22:12.466 --> 00:22:13.866 FIGHT FOR THE ROLE OF THE FATHER. 00:22:13.966 --> 00:22:15.199 I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 00:22:15.299 --> 00:22:17.066 REBECCA: YEAH, MARRIAGE, 00:22:17.166 --> 00:22:19.799 THE DECEPTION IN SOCIETY IS THAT MARRIAGE IS 00:22:19.899 --> 00:22:20.933 A MAN MADE THING. 00:22:21.033 --> 00:22:22.033 MARRIAGE IS A GOD THING. 00:22:22.133 --> 00:22:22.699 PHILIP: COME ON. 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:23.299 REBECCA: SO ONLY HE CAN 00:22:23.399 --> 00:22:24.333 DEFINE WHAT IT IS. 00:22:24.433 --> 00:22:25.599 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:22:25.699 --> 00:22:27.933 REBECCA: AND, YOU KNOW, THAT I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. 00:22:28.033 --> 00:22:30.299 AND I THINK MARRIAGE IS ONE OF THE BACKBONES OF SOCIETY. 00:22:30.399 --> 00:22:31.500 PHILIP: IT IS THE BACKBONE OF SOCIETY. 00:22:31.600 --> 00:22:33.900 I MEAN, IT'S ALL OF GENESIS 1 AND 2. 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:35.133 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:22:35.233 --> 00:22:37.366 AND SO IT'S LIKE IT IS, IT IS THE BACKBONE OF SOCIETY. 00:22:37.466 --> 00:22:39.533 IT IS THE FIRST, 00:22:39.633 --> 00:22:42.166 IT IS THE FIRST ENTITY THAT GOD 00:22:42.266 --> 00:22:47.233 CREATED FOR HUMAN BEINGS WAS THAT INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE. 00:22:47.333 --> 00:22:48.366 THE FIRST INSTITUTION, 00:22:48.466 --> 00:22:50.699 BEFORE THERE WAS A CHURCH, 00:22:50.799 --> 00:22:52.832 BEFORE THERE WAS PLATFORMS, 00:22:52.932 --> 00:22:53.499 BEFORE IT WAS ALL THESE THINGS. 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:54.366 THE FIRST INSTITUTION 00:22:54.466 --> 00:22:56.533 GOD CREATES IS MARRIAGE. 00:22:56.633 --> 00:22:59.099 SO, THERE IS SOMETHING VERY POWERFUL ABOUT THAT UNION. 00:22:59.199 --> 00:23:02.066 AND I FEEL LIKE THOSE OF US 00:23:02.166 --> 00:23:08.466 WHO HAVE FIDELITY TO THE WORD OF GOD SHOULD ALSO 00:23:08.566 --> 00:23:11.933 HAVE THE COURAGE TO DEFEND BIBLICAL MARRIAGE. 00:23:12.033 --> 00:23:13.532 NOT WITH HATE, 00:23:13.632 --> 00:23:16.366 BUT WITH LOVE THAT PULLS PEOPLE OUT OF DECEPTION. 00:23:16.466 --> 00:23:19.066 BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT DECEPTION IS GOING TO DO 00:23:19.166 --> 00:23:21.199 IS GOING TO LEAD PEOPLE TO AN INFERNO 00:23:21.299 --> 00:23:22.466 THAT THEY'RE NOT READY. 00:23:22.566 --> 00:23:23.500 THEY'RE NOT READY FOR. 00:23:23.600 --> 00:23:24.366 YOU SEE I'M SAYING? 00:23:24.466 --> 00:23:25.332 SO IT'S NOT, 00:23:25.432 --> 00:23:27.133 IT'S NOT US YOU AND I SPEAKING DOWN TO 00:23:27.233 --> 00:23:28.833 A COMMUNITY OR SPEAKING DOWN TO PEOPLE 00:23:28.933 --> 00:23:30.066 WHOSE ANTI -MARRIAGE. 00:23:30.166 --> 00:23:33.033 THIS IS US TRYING TO REACH OUT WITH LOVE TO SAY 00:23:33.133 --> 00:23:35.266 YOU'RE HEADED FOR DESTRUCTION AND WE'RE 00:23:35.366 --> 00:23:37.233 TRYING TO PULL YOU OUT OF THAT. 00:23:37.333 --> 00:23:38.766 I MEAN, ISN'T THAT WHAT PAUL SAID WHEN HE WROTE TO THE 00:23:38.866 --> 00:23:40.299 CHURCH IN COLOSSAE? 00:23:40.399 --> 00:23:43.933 HE SAID TO THE CHURCH, COLOSSIANS CHAPTER 1, VERSE 28. 00:23:44.033 --> 00:23:47.033 HE SAYS I'M NOT GOING TO PREACH, 00:23:47.133 --> 00:23:47.499 BUT I JUST WANT TO -- 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:48.166 I WANT TO -- 00:23:48.266 --> 00:23:49.099 REBECCA: NO, GO FOR IT. 00:23:49.199 --> 00:23:51.866 PHILIP: OKAY, HE SAYS HIM WE PROCLAIM, 00:23:51.966 --> 00:23:52.999 TALKING ABOUT CHRIST. 00:23:53.099 --> 00:23:57.266 NOW WATCH THIS WORD, WARNING EVERYONE, 00:23:57.366 --> 00:23:59.466 TEACHING EVERYONE 00:23:59.566 --> 00:24:01.100 THAT WE MAY PRESENT 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:02.966 EVERYONE, RIGHT? 00:24:03.066 --> 00:24:05.566 MATURE BEFORE CHRIST. 00:24:05.666 --> 00:24:07.732 AND SO IF THERE IS NO WARNING, 00:24:07.832 --> 00:24:08.866 THERE IS NO BIBLICAL PREACHING. 00:24:08.966 --> 00:24:09.899 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:24:09.999 --> 00:24:11.166 PHILIP: WHERE THERE'S BIBLICAL PREACHING, 00:24:11.266 --> 00:24:12.899 WHERE THERE'S BIBLICAL PROCLAMATION, 00:24:12.999 --> 00:24:14.766 THERE MUST BE WARNING. 00:24:14.866 --> 00:24:16.500 WE CAN'T SEE BIBLICAL PREACHERS JUST TELLING 00:24:16.600 --> 00:24:17.833 PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, 00:24:17.933 --> 00:24:18.533 WHILE THEY'RE SITTING 00:24:18.633 --> 00:24:20.100 IN PEWS HEADED TO HELL. 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:22.199 PART OF BIBLICAL PROCLAMATION IS ALSO 00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:25.799 WARNING PEOPLE THAT WHAT YOU LOVE IS GOING TO CARRY 00:24:25.899 --> 00:24:28.966 YOU TO A BURNING INFERNO AND IT'S NOT WORTH YOUR SOUL. 00:24:29.066 --> 00:24:31.433 SO THIS IS NOT YOU AND I BEING JUDGMENTAL. 00:24:31.533 --> 00:24:32.633 THIS IS US HONORING 00:24:32.733 --> 00:24:34.466 WHAT PAUL SAID TO THE CHURCH OF COLOSSAE. 00:24:34.566 --> 00:24:39.766 WARNING EVERYONE AND TEACHING EVERYONE WITH ALL WISDOM 00:24:39.866 --> 00:24:41.833 THAT WE MAY PRESENT EVERYONE MATURE BEFORE 00:24:41.933 --> 00:24:44.466 CHRIST WITH THE HOPES THAT THEIR SOULS WILL BE SAVED. 00:24:44.566 --> 00:24:47.099 THERE MUST BE WARNING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING 00:24:47.199 --> 00:24:48.566 RIGHT NOW IN CULTURE. 00:24:48.666 --> 00:24:49.932 WE MAY PAY A PRICE FOR THAT, 00:24:50.032 --> 00:24:51.433 BUT SOMEBODY GOT TO DO THAT. 00:24:51.533 --> 00:24:52.466 REBECCA: AND LIKE YOU SAID, 00:24:52.566 --> 00:24:53.866 IT'S NOT FROM A PLACE OF JUDGEMENT. 00:24:53.966 --> 00:24:54.632 PHILIP: NO. 00:24:54.732 --> 00:24:55.433 REBECCA: IT'S A PLACE OF LOVE. 00:24:55.533 --> 00:24:56.166 PHILIP: LOVE. 00:24:56.266 --> 00:24:57.332 REBECCA: THE BIBLE SAYS THAT 00:24:57.432 --> 00:24:59.833 IT'S THE LOVE OF CHRIST, PAUL SAYS, THAT COMPELS US. 00:24:59.933 --> 00:25:01.100 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:02.599 REBECCA: AND HE SAYS HE'S GIVEN US THIS MINISTRY OF 00:25:02.699 --> 00:25:05.933 RECONCILIATION AND WE SAY BE RECONCILED WITH GOD. 00:25:06.033 --> 00:25:07.266 PHILIP: COME ON. 00:25:07.366 --> 00:25:09.666 REBECCA: BUT YOU CAN'T RECONCILE GOD WITH YOUR OLD SINFUL WAYS. 00:25:09.766 --> 00:25:10.999 WHEN YOU COME INTO HIM, 00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:12.133 HE TRANSFORMS YOU. 00:25:12.233 --> 00:25:13.099 AND IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, 00:25:13.199 --> 00:25:14.266 YOU'RE WEARING BLACK. 00:25:14.366 --> 00:25:15.399 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:25:15.499 --> 00:25:17.299 REBECCA: BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY, IT'S AN OUTWARD 00:25:17.399 --> 00:25:19.233 REPRESENTATION OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SAYING 00:25:19.333 --> 00:25:20.733 I HAVE DIED TO SIN. 00:25:20.833 --> 00:25:21.866 I'VE DIED TO THE OLD WAYS. 00:25:21.966 --> 00:25:23.800 I'M BEING RAISED IN CHRIST. 00:25:23.900 --> 00:25:25.000 SO ALL OF US WHO JOIN HIM, 00:25:25.100 --> 00:25:26.532 THAT'S WHY WE GET BAPTIZED. 00:25:26.632 --> 00:25:29.733 IT'S A PICTURE THAT WE ARE DEAD TO SINS, DEAD TO OUR 00:25:29.833 --> 00:25:31.499 OLD WAY OF LIVING, AND JUST LIKE CHRIST, 00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:33.933 HE WAS THE VERY FIRST, FIRST, FIRST BORN FROM 00:25:34.033 --> 00:25:34.566 AMONG THE DEAD. 00:25:34.666 --> 00:25:35.533 HE WAS THE EXAMPLE. 00:25:35.633 --> 00:25:36.432 HE WAS THE PIONEER. 00:25:36.532 --> 00:25:37.766 HE WAS THE ONE WHO PAVED THE WAY. 00:25:37.866 --> 00:25:39.366 WE DIE. 00:25:39.466 --> 00:25:41.233 AND THEN WE ARE RAISED TO LIFE IN HIM. 00:25:41.333 --> 00:25:42.132 AND WE ARE NO LONGER -- 00:25:42.232 --> 00:25:42.799 PHILIP: YOU'RE A PREACHER, REBECCA. 00:25:42.899 --> 00:25:43.700 YOU'RE READY TO PREACH. 00:25:43.800 --> 00:25:44.733 REBECCA: WELL, IT'S EASY WITH YOU. 00:25:44.833 --> 00:25:45.566 PHILIP: YOU'RE A WHOLE PREACHER. 00:25:45.666 --> 00:25:46.432 REBECCA: IT'S EASY. 00:25:46.532 --> 00:25:47.133 JUST LIKE IT WILL BE A PING PONG 00:25:47.233 --> 00:25:48.866 TOURNAMENT BACK AND FORTH. 00:25:48.966 --> 00:25:50.199 PHILIP: BUT EVEN, EVEN, EVEN, 00:25:50.299 --> 00:25:52.533 LIKE EVEN THE FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED LIKE THE FACT 00:25:52.633 --> 00:25:53.266 I WEAR BLACK. 00:25:53.366 --> 00:25:54.133 LIKE I HAVEN'T WALKED COLORS 00:25:54.233 --> 00:25:55.366 SINCE DECEMBER 2018 00:25:55.466 --> 00:25:56.533 WHEN I CAME BACK FROM ISRAEL. 00:25:56.633 --> 00:25:57.600 SO FOR ME, 00:25:57.700 --> 00:26:00.366 IT'S MY PUBLIC TESTIMONY TO SAY THAT 00:26:00.466 --> 00:26:02.599 I'M, I'M DEAD TO CULTURE. 00:26:02.699 --> 00:26:05.299 BUT I THINK LIKE EVEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DEATH, 00:26:05.399 --> 00:26:06.966 I THINK THAT'S ONGOING, RIGHT? 00:26:07.066 --> 00:26:10.533 I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PERPETUAL DYING 00:26:10.633 --> 00:26:11.966 ON THE INSIDE OF THINGS 00:26:12.066 --> 00:26:13.699 WE KNOW THAT ARE NOT RIGHT BEFORE GOD. 00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.233 LIKE, LIKE THERE'S NOBODY ON THIS PODCAST RIGHT NOW 00:26:16.333 --> 00:26:18.233 THAT'S PERFECT, RIGHT? 00:26:18.333 --> 00:26:21.199 BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THE HUMILITY TO HAVE 00:26:21.299 --> 00:26:23.433 A PERPETUAL DYING OF OURSELVES IN WHICH WE'RE 00:26:23.533 --> 00:26:24.966 WRINGING OUT OUR SIN, 00:26:25.066 --> 00:26:26.366 WE'RE WRINGING OUT THE THINGS IN OUR HEARTS. 00:26:26.466 --> 00:26:27.699 WE'RE RECOGNIZING THINGS IN OUR HEARTS 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:31.233 THAT'S NOT RIGHT AND I'M GOING TO GO FURTHER. 00:26:31.333 --> 00:26:35.166 AND WE HAVE TO, WATCH THIS WORD, HUMILITY TO PRAY 00:26:35.266 --> 00:26:36.099 WHAT DAVID PRAYED. 00:26:36.199 --> 00:26:37.900 LORD, SEARCH MY HEART. 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:38.533 COME ON. 00:26:38.633 --> 00:26:39.200 LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. 00:26:39.300 --> 00:26:40.000 SEARCH MY HEART. 00:26:40.100 --> 00:26:41.399 IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE 00:26:41.499 --> 00:26:42.666 THAT'S NOT RIGHT, 00:26:42.766 --> 00:26:44.432 YO, DEAL WITH THAT THING. 00:26:44.532 --> 00:26:45.333 SO WE'RE NOT WALKING AROUND 00:26:45.433 --> 00:26:46.200 SMELLING OURSELVES THINKING 00:26:46.300 --> 00:26:47.233 THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE. 00:26:47.333 --> 00:26:49.333 NO, THERE NEEDS TO BE A PERPETUAL DYING TO 00:26:49.433 --> 00:26:51.433 OURSELVES OF ALL THESE THINGS IN US THAT IS 00:26:51.533 --> 00:26:53.033 OFFENSIVE TO A HOLY GOD. 00:26:53.133 --> 00:26:54.066 AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE 00:26:54.166 --> 00:26:57.000 A FILTER OUTSIDE OF US AS A, AS A BAROMETER 00:26:57.100 --> 00:26:58.066 FOR WHAT'S GOING ON. 00:26:58.166 --> 00:27:00.399 LIKE I CAN'T BE THE SOLE AUTHORITY IN MY LIFE. 00:27:00.499 --> 00:27:02.399 I GOTTA BE SAYING, LORD, SEARCH ME. 00:27:02.499 --> 00:27:03.100 IF THERE'S THINGS 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:04.033 I DESIRE THAT'S NOT RIGHT, 00:27:04.133 --> 00:27:04.966 DEAL WITH THAT. 00:27:05.066 --> 00:27:06.399 IF THERE'S THINGS THAT I'M GOING AFTER 00:27:06.499 --> 00:27:06.900 THAT'S NOT RIGHT, 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:08.166 DEAL WITH THAT. 00:27:08.266 --> 00:27:10.533 IF THERE'S THINGS IN MY LIFE THAT'S NOT -- AND WE NEED TO 00:27:10.633 --> 00:27:13.400 INFILTRATE AMERICAN PREACHING WITH THAT TYPE 00:27:13.500 --> 00:27:15.766 OF HUMILITY IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT 00:27:15.866 --> 00:27:17.566 THE CONDITION OF THEIR HEART. 00:27:17.666 --> 00:27:19.432 YOU KNOW WITHOUT THAT IT'S LIKE, I MEAN, 00:27:19.532 --> 00:27:20.599 WHAT DO WE HAVE IN AMERICA? 00:27:20.699 --> 00:27:22.200 WE, WE PREACH IN SIN. 00:27:22.300 --> 00:27:23.233 WE SING IN SIN. 00:27:23.333 --> 00:27:24.599 WE SERVE IN SIN. 00:27:24.699 --> 00:27:25.433 WE JUST -- 00:27:25.533 --> 00:27:26.466 IT'S JUST SIN IS JUST LIKE A PET 00:27:26.566 --> 00:27:27.633 THAT WE KEEP ON A LEASH. 00:27:27.733 --> 00:27:28.999 WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THIS STUFF IN OUR HEART. 00:27:29.099 --> 00:27:30.900 WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THESE THINGS IN OUR HEARTS. 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:31.700 SO IT'S NOT -- 00:27:31.800 --> 00:27:33.333 IT'S NOT JUST WEARING BLACK. 00:27:33.433 --> 00:27:35.100 IT'S ARE WE DOING IT ON THE INSIDE? 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.633 IS THERE A PERPETUAL DYING ON THE INSIDE 00:27:37.733 --> 00:27:38.566 OF THE THINGS 00:27:38.666 --> 00:27:39.499 THAT'S NOT RIGHT IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:40.333 DOES THAT MAKES SENSE? 00:27:40.433 --> 00:27:41.466 REBECCA: NO, IT MAKES -- 00:27:41.566 --> 00:27:42.133 PHILIP: THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE ME 00:27:42.233 --> 00:27:43.433 ON YOUR PODCAST, REBECCA. 00:27:43.533 --> 00:27:44.399 THEY'RE GOING -- 00:27:44.499 --> 00:27:45.300 REBECCA: NO, THEY'RE GOING TO LOVE IT. 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:46.233 PHILIP: THEY'RE NOT GOING LIKE ME. 00:27:46.333 --> 00:27:47.033 REBECCA: I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE 00:27:47.133 --> 00:27:48.199 WHO WATCH THIS ARE SO HUNGRY. 00:27:48.299 --> 00:27:49.966 AND LIKE I -- THE REASON WHY I DO 00:27:50.066 --> 00:27:51.233 THIS IS I WANT TO BRING STUFF 00:27:51.333 --> 00:27:54.433 THAT'S EDIFYING TO THE PERSON AND ENCOURAGING AS WELL. 00:27:54.533 --> 00:27:57.166 AND I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE SO SPIRITUALLY HUNGRY. 00:27:57.266 --> 00:27:59.732 AND WHEN YOU'RE HUNGRY, YOU WANT TO HEAR STUFF LIKE THIS, 00:27:59.832 --> 00:28:01.400 BECAUSE IT FEEDS YOUR SPIRIT. 00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:04.800 BUT WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IS WHEN I -- WHERE HOW 00:28:04.900 --> 00:28:07.066 ONE OF THE THINGS I DO IN MY QUIET TIME, 00:28:07.166 --> 00:28:09.366 AND I LEARNED THIS IN BIBLE SCHOOL IN WORSHIP CLASS, 00:28:09.466 --> 00:28:13.366 BUT THE MOSAIC TABERNACLE IN HEBREWS IT'S 00:28:13.466 --> 00:28:15.199 A TYPE OF PICTURE OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN HEAVEN. 00:28:15.299 --> 00:28:15.999 PHILIP: YES. 00:28:16.099 --> 00:28:17.133 REBECCA: AND SO I ACTUALLY WALK 00:28:17.233 --> 00:28:18.533 THROUGH THAT TABERNACLE IN 00:28:18.633 --> 00:28:19.899 MY PRAYER TIME. 00:28:19.999 --> 00:28:20.800 AND THE SECOND THING -- 00:28:20.900 --> 00:28:21.766 PHILIP: FROM THE OUTER COURT INTO 00:28:21.866 --> 00:28:22.832 THE HOLY OF HOLIES. 00:28:22.932 --> 00:28:24.099 COME ON, REBECCA. 00:28:24.199 --> 00:28:24.866 REBECCA: SO THE FIRST, THE FIRST THING IS YOU ENTER THROUGH 00:28:24.966 --> 00:28:26.333 THE GATES WITH THANKSGIVING. 00:28:26.433 --> 00:28:28.032 BUT THE SECOND THING IS THAT ALTAR, 00:28:28.132 --> 00:28:29.566 THAT BRAZEN ALTAR. 00:28:29.666 --> 00:28:32.732 AND SO I'M CONSTANTLY THROWING MY LIFE UP ON 00:28:32.832 --> 00:28:34.833 THAT ALTAR AND I'M SAYING WHATEVER IS NOT PLEASING 00:28:34.933 --> 00:28:39.166 TO YOU, BURN IT UP AND THAT'S, THAT'S BEFORE YOU 00:28:39.266 --> 00:28:40.533 EVEN GET INTO THE -- 00:28:40.633 --> 00:28:41.733 PHILIP: HOLY OF HOLIES. 00:28:41.833 --> 00:28:43.532 REBECCA: THE HOLY PLACE AND THE HOLY OF HOLIES. 00:28:43.632 --> 00:28:44.432 SO THE HOLY PLACE 00:28:44.532 --> 00:28:45.999 IS WHERE YOU HAVE COMMUNION, 00:28:46.099 --> 00:28:47.633 BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE COMMUNION UNTIL YOU THROW 00:28:47.733 --> 00:28:48.800 YOUR LIFE ON THAT ALTAR. 00:28:48.900 --> 00:28:49.866 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:28:49.966 --> 00:28:51.299 REBECCA: AND THEN YOU GET WASHED IN THE WORD. 00:28:51.399 --> 00:28:52.666 THEN YOU ENTER IN 00:28:52.766 --> 00:28:54.566 AND YOU CAN SIT AT THE TABLE OF SHEWBREAD. 00:28:54.666 --> 00:28:55.233 PHILIP: YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE? 00:28:55.333 --> 00:28:56.199 I LOVE, I LOVE THAT 00:28:56.299 --> 00:28:58.766 YOU KEEP, YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT 00:28:58.866 --> 00:28:59.966 YOUR PRAYER TIME. 00:29:00.066 --> 00:29:01.999 AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THAT YET. 00:29:02.099 --> 00:29:04.600 BUT YOU KEEP MENTIONING THAT AND I THINK IT'S 00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:07.599 IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING AND LISTENING, 00:29:07.699 --> 00:29:09.066 LIKE EVEN WHAT YOU'RE BROACHING RIGHT NOW 00:29:09.166 --> 00:29:10.132 ABOUT PRAYER TIME. 00:29:10.232 --> 00:29:11.566 I THINK IT'S SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? 00:29:11.666 --> 00:29:15.866 LIKE SO, LIKE PEOPLE 00:29:15.966 --> 00:29:19.633 MAY KNOW ME FOR PROCLAMATION, RIGHT? 00:29:19.733 --> 00:29:22.033 BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE STRONGEST PART OF MY LIFE. 00:29:22.133 --> 00:29:24.333 I FEEL LIKE THE STRONGEST PART OF MY LIFE IS WHAT 00:29:24.433 --> 00:29:26.900 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MY QUIET TIME. 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:28.433 AND I SAY ALL 00:29:28.533 --> 00:29:31.066 THE TIME THAT I HAVE A VERY FEROCIOUS PRAYER LIFE 00:29:31.166 --> 00:29:33.332 NOT BECAUSE I'M A SUPER CHRISTIAN, 00:29:33.432 --> 00:29:34.899 BUT BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF BROKENNESS. 00:29:34.999 --> 00:29:35.800 REBECCA: EXACTLY. 00:29:35.900 --> 00:29:36.800 PHILIP: AND MY BROKENNESS LEADS ME 00:29:36.900 --> 00:29:38.699 TO THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD. 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.633 AND I'M GONNA SAY THIS IN FULL TRANSPARENCY. 00:29:41.733 --> 00:29:43.666 I ACTUALLY WOULD RATHER BE IN MY PRAYER ROOM 00:29:43.766 --> 00:29:45.099 THAN ON A PLATFORM. 00:29:45.199 --> 00:29:46.966 I WOULD RATHER BE ALONE WITH JESUS IN MY PRAYER 00:29:47.066 --> 00:29:48.700 ROOM THAN PREACHING A MESSAGE. 00:29:48.800 --> 00:29:51.433 I WOULD RATHER BE ALONE WITH CHRIST THAN ON A -- 00:29:51.533 --> 00:29:52.866 THAN IN A CONFERENCE. 00:29:52.966 --> 00:29:53.999 AND I THINK THERE ARE BELIEVERS -- 00:29:54.099 --> 00:29:54.900 REBECCA: YEAH, THE SAME. 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.266 PHILIP: YEAH, THERE ARE BELIEVERS 00:29:56.366 --> 00:29:58.366 WHO ARE WATCHING AND LISTENING TO US RIGHT NOW 00:29:58.466 --> 00:30:02.433 WHO THEY'RE TRYING TO DO MINISTRY FROM A PLACE OF EMPTY. 00:30:02.533 --> 00:30:03.166 REBECCA: THAT'S BURN OUT. 00:30:03.266 --> 00:30:04.033 PHILIP: THEY'RE TRYING TO DO 00:30:04.133 --> 00:30:04.666 ALL THIS STUFF IN THE NAME OF JESUS 00:30:04.766 --> 00:30:05.566 FROM A PLACE OF EMPTY. 00:30:05.666 --> 00:30:07.266 AND I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE 00:30:07.366 --> 00:30:08.699 A REVIVAL OF THE PRAYER ROOM. 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.333 A REVIVAL OF WHAT I JUST 00:30:10.433 --> 00:30:12.800 CALL FROM THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT, THE SECRET PLACE. 00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:17.599 I THINK, MAN, 00:30:17.699 --> 00:30:21.566 I THINK IN AMERICA CHRISTIANS ARE BUSY, 00:30:21.666 --> 00:30:23.033 BUT WE'RE NOT INTIMATE WITH THE LORD. 00:30:23.133 --> 00:30:24.433 SO WE'RE DOING PODCASTS. 00:30:24.533 --> 00:30:25.466 WE'RE PREACHING. 00:30:25.566 --> 00:30:26.800 WE'RE GOING TO WORK. 00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:27.600 WE'RE BEING PARENTS. 00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:28.866 WE'RE BUSY, BUSY, BUSY AND THEN 00:30:28.966 --> 00:30:30.233 PRAYER IS AN OFFSHOOT. 00:30:30.333 --> 00:30:32.599 I THROW IT UP FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE WAY TO WORK. 00:30:32.699 --> 00:30:34.866 BUT IT'S NOT LIKE US CULTIVATING THE SECRET PLACE. 00:30:34.966 --> 00:30:38.399 IT'S NOT US CULTIVATING A LIFE IN WHICH WE HAVE THIS 00:30:38.499 --> 00:30:41.966 DEEP WELL OF INTIMACY WITH JESUS THAT THERE'S THIS 00:30:42.066 --> 00:30:44.966 THING GOING ON BETWEEN HE AND I IN PRIVATE IN WHICH 00:30:45.066 --> 00:30:46.000 EVERYTHING IS FLOWING OUT OF THAT. 00:30:46.100 --> 00:30:47.233 SO HEALING IS 00:30:47.333 --> 00:30:48.133 FLOWING OUT OF THAT. 00:30:48.233 --> 00:30:49.666 REVELATION IS FLOWING OUT OF THAT. 00:30:49.766 --> 00:30:51.499 COMFORT IS FLOWING OUT OF THAT. 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:52.666 PEACE IS FLOWING OUT OF THAT. 00:30:52.766 --> 00:30:55.099 MINISTRY IS FLOWING OUT OF THAT. 00:30:55.199 --> 00:30:56.932 THAT THE BEST TREATMENT FOR THE HUMAN 00:30:57.032 --> 00:30:59.000 HEART IS THE PRESENCE OF CHRIST. 00:30:59.100 --> 00:30:59.900 REBECCA: IT IS. 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:00.599 PHILIP: YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:31:00.699 --> 00:31:01.832 AND FOR SOME PEOPLE TO 00:31:01.932 --> 00:31:03.966 UNDERSTAND LIKE, LIKE THEY GOTTA STOP SEEING PRAYERS 00:31:04.066 --> 00:31:06.166 LIKE A CHORE, LIKE SOMETHING OBLIGATORY THAT 00:31:06.266 --> 00:31:08.199 LIKE IF I DON'T DO THIS, THE LORD'S GOING TO BE MAD. 00:31:08.299 --> 00:31:08.866 NO, IF YOU DON'T TALK TO HIM, 00:31:08.966 --> 00:31:09.699 HE'S NOT GOING TO BE MAD. 00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:10.666 YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE DISTANT. 00:31:10.766 --> 00:31:12.266 BUT MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, MAN, 00:31:12.366 --> 00:31:14.732 LIKE YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU GO IN THERE 00:31:14.832 --> 00:31:16.933 LIKE WHEN YOU TALK AND YOU JUST SIT WITH THE LORD. 00:31:17.033 --> 00:31:18.033 AND YOU PRAISE HIM, 00:31:18.133 --> 00:31:19.933 YOU WORSHIP HIM, YOU PASS THROUGH THOSE CHAMBERS 00:31:20.033 --> 00:31:22.466 AND YOU GET TO THAT HOLY PLACE WHERE IT'S JUST YOU AND HIM. 00:31:22.566 --> 00:31:25.533 AND THERE'S NO RUSH AND IT'S JUST HE AND I AND 00:31:25.633 --> 00:31:31.466 WE'RE TOGETHER AND I CAN CRY AND I CAN BE HONEST 00:31:31.566 --> 00:31:33.199 AND I CAN TELL HIM HOW I FEEL. 00:31:33.299 --> 00:31:34.100 I CAN TELL HIM I'M HURT. 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:35.633 I CAN TELL HIM I'M ANGRY. 00:31:35.733 --> 00:31:36.766 I CAN TELL HIM MY NEEDS. 00:31:36.866 --> 00:31:38.466 SOMETIMES I TELL HIM NOTHING. 00:31:38.566 --> 00:31:39.600 SOMETIMES I JUST WEEP. 00:31:39.700 --> 00:31:42.366 AND MY TEARS ARE MY LIQUID PRAYERS 00:31:42.466 --> 00:31:44.433 BECAUSE HE CAN READ TEARS TOO. 00:31:44.533 --> 00:31:46.932 AND SOMETIMES WE GO IN THERE. 00:31:47.032 --> 00:31:49.866 I FEEL HEAT, BECAUSE I LIKE THIS AND SOMETIMES, 00:31:49.966 --> 00:31:50.766 SOMETIMES WE GO IN THERE, 00:31:50.866 --> 00:31:53.000 AND WE JUST, WE JUST SIT STILL. 00:31:53.100 --> 00:31:55.266 AND MAYBE PUT ON SOME WORSHIP MUSIC. 00:31:55.366 --> 00:31:59.232 AND I WOULD THAT, THAT I CAN ENCOURAGE MORE 00:31:59.332 --> 00:32:03.033 BELIEVERS TO JUST TAKE THE SECRET PLACE MORE SERIOUS, MAN. 00:32:03.133 --> 00:32:07.133 LIKE, LIKE THERE IS NO OTHER FORMULA 00:32:07.233 --> 00:32:08.299 FOR THE HUMAN HEART 00:32:08.399 --> 00:32:10.233 THAT'S GOING TO BE BETTER FOR THE SOUL 00:32:10.333 --> 00:32:11.199 THAN THE TIME 00:32:11.299 --> 00:32:12.333 WE SPEND IN THE SECRET PLACE WITH JESUS. 00:32:12.433 --> 00:32:15.232 SO THE FACT THAT YOU KEEP, LIKE YOU AND I JUST MET, 00:32:15.332 --> 00:32:17.900 BUT I'M, I'M PICKING UP ON THIS, LIKE WE VIBING THAT 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.066 YOU LIKE YOUR SECRET PLACE. 00:32:19.166 --> 00:32:21.099 YOU LIKE YOUR PRAYER CLOSET, 00:32:21.199 --> 00:32:22.666 WHATEVER THAT IS, YOU LIKE THAT PLACE, 00:32:22.766 --> 00:32:24.533 BUT YOU LIKE THAT PLACE OF WHO YOU'RE SPENDING TIME WITH. 00:32:24.633 --> 00:32:26.166 YOU'RE SPENDING TIME WITH JESUS. 00:32:26.266 --> 00:32:27.332 REBECCA: EXACTLY. 00:32:27.432 --> 00:32:29.099 PHILIP: RIGHT, AND HE'S HE'S PULLING YOU IN THERE, 00:32:29.199 --> 00:32:30.499 AND YOU'RE ENJOYING BEING WITH HIM. 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:31.433 AND I THINK IF WE 00:32:31.533 --> 00:32:33.033 CAN HELP PEOPLE SEE, MAN, LIKE, MAN, 00:32:33.133 --> 00:32:35.066 THIS IS WHERE THE MAGIC HAPPENS. 00:32:35.166 --> 00:32:36.499 I WANT TO REFERENCE ONE THING YOU SAID. 00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.799 THIS IS WHERE THE MOST TRANSFORMATION HAPPENS, 00:32:38.899 --> 00:32:41.900 LIKE IT'S NOT JUST HAPPENING IN THE GATHERING 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.066 OR IN A SUNDAY MORNING SERVICE. 00:32:43.166 --> 00:32:45.499 IT DOES HAPPEN THERE, BUT I THINK GOD DOES HIS BEST 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.466 WORK IN US IN THAT SECRET PLACE. 00:32:48.566 --> 00:32:49.366 WOULD YOU AGREE? 00:32:49.466 --> 00:32:51.633 REBECCA: NO, I COMPLETELY AGREE. 00:32:51.733 --> 00:32:54.700 I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS 19 AND WAS CALLED 00:32:54.800 --> 00:32:56.766 TO MINISTRY AND I STARTED BIBLE SCHOOL, 00:32:56.866 --> 00:32:57.932 ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS 00:32:58.032 --> 00:33:00.500 HE TAUGHT ME IS HE SAID EVERYTHING YOU'LL NEED FOR 00:33:00.600 --> 00:33:03.666 LIFE IN MINISTRY WILL FLOW FROM RELATIONSHIP WITH ME. 00:33:03.766 --> 00:33:04.699 PHILIP: WOW. 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:06.266 REBECCA: SO FOCUS ON RELATIONSHIP WITH ME. 00:33:06.366 --> 00:33:08.299 AND WHEN I WAS 17 EARLIER, 00:33:08.399 --> 00:33:10.766 AND I WAS LOST, MY OWN TESTIMONY WAS LOST, 00:33:10.866 --> 00:33:12.666 AND I REMEMBER PRAYING IN THE BACK OF A CHURCH CAMP. 00:33:12.766 --> 00:33:14.699 AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE A CHRISTIAN. 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.433 AND HE QUOTED JOHN 15 TO ME. 00:33:16.533 --> 00:33:17.399 HE SAID ABIDE IN ME 00:33:17.499 --> 00:33:18.733 AND I'LL ABIDE IN YOU. 00:33:18.833 --> 00:33:19.800 I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS QUOTING THE BIBLE TO ME. 00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:21.032 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT, 00:33:21.132 --> 00:33:23.666 BUT IT WOULD BE COMFORTING TO ME LATER AS HE TAUGHT ME. 00:33:23.766 --> 00:33:26.000 THIS IS WHAT LIFE WITH CHRIST IS. 00:33:26.100 --> 00:33:27.432 IT'S ABOUT ABIDING IN HIM 00:33:27.532 --> 00:33:29.233 AND THEN HE PRODUCES THE FRUIT. 00:33:29.333 --> 00:33:31.633 AND THEN HE PRUNES US BECAUSE HE LOVES US AND HE 00:33:31.733 --> 00:33:34.300 WANTS US TO BEAR MORE FRUIT FOR HIS GLORY. 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.032 BUT IT ALL COMES FROM THE SECRET PLACE. 00:33:36.132 --> 00:33:37.133 AND YOU ALSO HIT ON SOMETHING 00:33:37.233 --> 00:33:38.266 THAT'S SO IMPORTANT. 00:33:38.366 --> 00:33:39.666 I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT ON THIS 00:33:39.766 --> 00:33:44.366 PODCAST, BUT FOR THIS LAST YEAR HAS BEEN SO LIKE 00:33:44.466 --> 00:33:47.866 RINGING SO TRUE FOR ME IS HOW IMPORTANT HUMILITY IS. 00:33:47.966 --> 00:33:49.466 LIKE IF ANYONE WOULD HAVE EVER ASKED ME 00:33:49.566 --> 00:33:51.099 WHAT IS IMPORTANT IN THE WALK WITH CHRIST, 00:33:51.199 --> 00:33:51.900 I WOULD SAY HUMILITY. 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.399 BECAUSE IF YOU ARE HUMBLE, 00:33:53.499 --> 00:33:54.566 GOD WILL MEET YOU. 00:33:54.666 --> 00:33:55.633 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:33:55.733 --> 00:33:58.433 YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF US TO SOME 00:33:58.533 --> 00:34:01.133 DEGREE ARE INFECTED WITH SOME MEASURE 00:34:01.233 --> 00:34:02.766 OF PRIDE AND ARROGANCE. 00:34:02.866 --> 00:34:04.600 REBECCA: YES, IT'S SO EASY. 00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:05.433 IT'S NOT HARD. 00:34:05.533 --> 00:34:06.199 PHILIP: RIGHT. 00:34:06.299 --> 00:34:07.633 IT'S EASY TO FEEL YOURSELF. 00:34:07.733 --> 00:34:08.232 WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE? 00:34:08.332 --> 00:34:09.133 RIGHT? 00:34:09.233 --> 00:34:10.766 IT'S LIKE IT'S EASY TO FEEL LIKE -- 00:34:10.866 --> 00:34:11.499 YOU'RE FEELING YOURSELF TODAY, 00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:12.699 STAY DOWN, RIGHT? 00:34:12.799 --> 00:34:14.532 AND I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE 00:34:14.632 --> 00:34:17.666 SAYING IS SO POWERFUL, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS 00:34:17.766 --> 00:34:19.499 A BEAUTY IN HUMILITY. 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.300 IT SHOWS, IT SHOWS HONOR FOR GOD. 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.099 IT SHOWS DEFERENCE. 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:24.833 IT REMINDS GOD -- 00:34:24.933 --> 00:34:25.666 REBECCA: AND A NEED FOR GOD. 00:34:25.766 --> 00:34:26.400 PHILIP: YEAH, IT SHOWS OUR NEED, 00:34:26.500 --> 00:34:27.666 OUR DEPENDENCY. 00:34:27.766 --> 00:34:29.832 AND I THINK GOD IS DRAWN TO HUMILITY. 00:34:29.932 --> 00:34:31.633 HE IS DRAWN TO BROKENNESS. 00:34:31.733 --> 00:34:33.066 HE'S DRAWN TO LONELINESS. 00:34:33.166 --> 00:34:34.166 AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING 00:34:34.266 --> 00:34:36.833 BEAUTIFUL WHEN WE CAN RECOGNIZE WHEN PRIDE IS 00:34:36.933 --> 00:34:39.133 CREEPING UP OR WHEN ARROGANCE IS CREEPING UP. 00:34:39.233 --> 00:34:40.866 AND THEN WE RUN TO THAT SECRET PLACE SAY, GOD, 00:34:40.966 --> 00:34:41.966 WRING THIS OUT OF ME. 00:34:42.066 --> 00:34:43.599 JESUS, YOU ARE MY REWARD. 00:34:43.699 --> 00:34:45.632 AND I THINK HUMILITY IS SO IMPORTANT. 00:34:45.732 --> 00:34:47.799 I THINK GOD CAN TRUST PEOPLE WHO ARE HUMBLE. 00:34:47.899 --> 00:34:48.833 I THINK HE CAN, HE CAN, 00:34:48.933 --> 00:34:50.699 HE CAN GRANT PEOPLE THINGS WHO ARE HUMBLE. 00:34:50.799 --> 00:34:51.533 YOU CAN BE TRUSTED 00:34:51.633 --> 00:34:52.499 WHEN YOU'RE HUMBLE. 00:34:52.633 --> 00:34:53.999 SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED IN 00:34:54.099 --> 00:34:55.599 THE BODY OF CHRIST, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FACT 00:34:55.699 --> 00:34:58.566 THAT YOU AND I LIVE IN A GENERATION WHERE EVERYBODY 00:34:58.666 --> 00:35:01.066 IS VYING FOR LIGHTS -- 00:35:01.166 --> 00:35:02.000 REBECCA: ATTENTION. 00:35:02.100 --> 00:35:04.932 PHILIP: LIKES, ATTENTION, PLATFORMS. 00:35:05.032 --> 00:35:05.999 REBECCA: IT'S VERY SELF-FOCUSED. 00:35:06.099 --> 00:35:08.599 PHILIP: SELF- FOCUSED, IT'S ME-FOCUSED. 00:35:08.699 --> 00:35:12.532 IT'S WE, WE OVERDO SELF-LOVE. 00:35:12.632 --> 00:35:13.633 EVERYTHING IS ME. 00:35:13.733 --> 00:35:16.833 WE -- THIS IS THE MOST NARCISSISTIC GENERATION 00:35:16.933 --> 00:35:17.933 IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. 00:35:18.033 --> 00:35:18.699 REBECCA: IT IS. 00:35:18.799 --> 00:35:19.833 PHILIP: YOU KNOW WE, WE ARE -- 00:35:19.933 --> 00:35:22.766 WE, I MEAN, EVERY PICTURE IS ME. 00:35:22.866 --> 00:35:24.499 EVERYTHING IS ABOUT ME. 00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:26.066 AND I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S NAUSEATING 00:35:26.166 --> 00:35:26.833 TO THE LORD. 00:35:26.933 --> 00:35:27.900 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.432 SO THERE MUST BE AN OUTPOURING OF HUMILITY ON 00:35:30.532 --> 00:35:32.499 THE BODY OF CHRIST IN THIS HOUR. 00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:33.566 ESPECIALLY IN THE HOUR 00:35:33.666 --> 00:35:36.099 WHEN WE ARE JUST DROWNING IN NARCISSISM, YEAH. 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.432 REBECCA: I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT, THAT WE, BECAUSE 00:35:38.532 --> 00:35:41.299 THE WAY THE CULTURE IS AND, I MEAN, IT TALKS ABOUT THIS 00:35:41.399 --> 00:35:43.233 IN TIMOTHY, PEOPLE WHO BE LOVERS OF SELF -- 00:35:43.333 --> 00:35:43.933 PHILIP: YOU KNOW YOUR BIBLE. 00:35:44.033 --> 00:35:44.766 REBECCA: IN THE LAST DAYS. 00:35:44.866 --> 00:35:45.666 I LOVE THE BIBLE. 00:35:45.766 --> 00:35:46.800 WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT -- 00:35:46.900 --> 00:35:48.933 YOU SAID THAT IN YOUR, I WAS READING NOTES ABOUT 00:35:49.033 --> 00:35:50.800 YOU AND YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW OUR GENERATION 00:35:50.900 --> 00:35:52.032 IS BIBLICALLY ILLITERATE. 00:35:52.132 --> 00:35:52.700 PHILIP: YES. 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:53.766 REBECCA: I WAS LIKE AMEN. 00:35:53.866 --> 00:35:55.333 AND THAT IS WHERE DECEPTION -- 00:35:55.433 --> 00:35:56.499 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:57.900 REBECCA: BECAUSE IT'S PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE WORD, 00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:59.366 IT SOUNDS GOOD. 00:35:59.466 --> 00:36:00.799 THERE'S THAT, THERE'S THAT VERSE 00:36:00.899 --> 00:36:02.633 IT SAYS THERE'S A WAY THAT SEEMS RIGHT TO MAN. 00:36:02.733 --> 00:36:04.399 PHILIP: SEEMS RIGHT TO MAN, RIGHT. 00:36:04.499 --> 00:36:05.633 REBECCA: BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT. 00:36:05.733 --> 00:36:07.166 PHILIP: WHAT'S CRAZY TOO IS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID IN OUR 00:36:07.266 --> 00:36:08.833 CHURCH THE MORE TRUTH YOU KNOW, 00:36:08.933 --> 00:36:11.500 THE EASIER IT IS TO DISCERN A LIE. 00:36:11.600 --> 00:36:12.532 AND EVEN IN MY OWN CHURCH, 00:36:12.632 --> 00:36:13.433 I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE 00:36:13.533 --> 00:36:14.333 DON'T JUST BELIEVE EVERYTHING I SAY. 00:36:14.433 --> 00:36:16.099 IT'S LIKE I FEEL LIKE OUR GENERATION, 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:19.466 WE TRUST MORE IN SERMONS THAN IN THE WORD OF GOD, RIGHT? 00:36:19.566 --> 00:36:21.900 AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE AND THEN, AND THEN WE 00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:23.600 BLAME THE DEVIL FOR EVERYTHING HAPPENING 00:36:23.700 --> 00:36:24.600 IN THE CHURCH. 00:36:24.700 --> 00:36:25.699 I MEAN, JESUS SAID OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH, 00:36:25.799 --> 00:36:27.166 THE GATES OF HELL CAN'T PREVAIL. 00:36:27.266 --> 00:36:28.166 AND THAT'S WHY I SAY 00:36:28.266 --> 00:36:29.633 THE GREATEST THREAT TO THE AMERICAN CHURCH 00:36:29.733 --> 00:36:31.466 IS THE AMERICAN PULPIT. 00:36:31.566 --> 00:36:32.432 IT'S ME. 00:36:32.532 --> 00:36:33.733 IT'S THE PASTORS. 00:36:33.833 --> 00:36:35.000 IT'S THOSE WHO ARE SHEPHERDS 00:36:35.100 --> 00:36:37.366 WHO ARE TASKED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROCLAIMING. 00:36:37.466 --> 00:36:39.433 WE ARE THE PEOPLE LEADING GOD'S 00:36:39.533 --> 00:36:40.966 PEOPLE ASTRAY, RIGHT? 00:36:41.066 --> 00:36:44.132 AND WHAT THIS GENERATION NEEDS IS TO JUST FALL BACK 00:36:44.232 --> 00:36:45.966 IN LOVE WITH THE SCRIPTURES. 00:36:46.066 --> 00:36:47.766 SO THAT WHEN WE HEAR FALSE DOCTRINE, 00:36:47.866 --> 00:36:49.599 WE KNOW IT, RIGHT? 00:36:49.699 --> 00:36:50.600 LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. 00:36:50.700 --> 00:36:52.700 IF WE ABIDE, WE WILL KNOW WHAT IS FALSE. 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.599 AND ESPECIALLY SINCE WE LIVE IN AN ATMOSPHERE OF DECEPTION, 00:36:55.699 --> 00:36:56.933 WE NEED TO BE ANCHORED IN TRUTH. 00:36:57.033 --> 00:36:58.232 NOT YOUR TRUTH. 00:36:58.332 --> 00:36:59.299 YOU LIVE MY TRUTH. 00:36:59.399 --> 00:37:00.933 GOD'S TRUTH. 00:37:01.033 --> 00:37:02.232 IF WE'RE ANCHORED IN THE WORD, 00:37:02.332 --> 00:37:04.600 WE WON'T BE LED ASTRAY BY ALL THIS DECEPTION. 00:37:04.700 --> 00:37:06.899 REBECCA: YEAH, AND THE THING IS JESUS SAYS I'M SENDING YOU 00:37:06.999 --> 00:37:09.966 THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT HE'LL LEAD YOU INTO ALL TRUTH. 00:37:10.066 --> 00:37:11.033 PHILIP: ALL TRUTH, YEAH. 00:37:11.133 --> 00:37:13.033 REBECCA: AND SO GOD HAS GIVEN US HIS SPIRIT. 00:37:13.133 --> 00:37:14.099 HE LIVES IN US. 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:14.966 PHILIP: YES. 00:37:15.066 --> 00:37:15.699 REBECCA: AND SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO 00:37:15.799 --> 00:37:16.966 HAVE RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. 00:37:17.066 --> 00:37:18.666 AND SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHEN THEY THINK 00:37:18.766 --> 00:37:19.866 OF THE SECRET PLACE, 00:37:19.966 --> 00:37:21.466 THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT OR THEY THINK ABOUT YOU 00:37:21.566 --> 00:37:23.033 NEED TO BE GROUNDED IN THE WORD. 00:37:23.133 --> 00:37:23.933 IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT, 00:37:24.033 --> 00:37:25.133 ONCE AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO SELF. 00:37:25.233 --> 00:37:26.433 IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN YOUR OWN STRENGTH... 00:37:26.533 --> 00:37:27.199 PHILIP: OWN STRENGTH. 00:37:27.299 --> 00:37:28.200 REBECCA: IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. 00:37:28.300 --> 00:37:28.999 IF YOU TRY TO PRAY IN YOUR OWN STRENGTH, 00:37:29.099 --> 00:37:30.433 I DON'T LIKE -- I HATE THAT. 00:37:30.533 --> 00:37:31.566 BUT IF I TURN PRAYER INTO 00:37:31.666 --> 00:37:32.500 BEING WITH GOD. 00:37:32.600 --> 00:37:33.400 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:37:33.500 --> 00:37:34.833 REBECCA: AND THEN HE ALIGNS MY HEART 00:37:34.933 --> 00:37:36.533 WITH HIS AND THEN THAT'S WHERE I INTERCEDE. 00:37:36.633 --> 00:37:37.400 PHILIP: PRAYER IS WHERE THE POWER IS. 00:37:37.500 --> 00:37:38.233 THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE 00:37:38.333 --> 00:37:39.632 THE POWER IS, IT'S IN PRAYER. 00:37:39.732 --> 00:37:40.899 REBECCA: EXACTLY. 00:37:40.999 --> 00:37:43.866 HE'S THE SOURCE AND THEN WE TAP INTO HIM AND SO THE SAME 00:37:43.966 --> 00:37:44.999 THING WITH THE WORD. 00:37:45.099 --> 00:37:48.433 I LOVE THE WORD BECAUSE HE HAS GIVEN ME HIS SPIRIT. 00:37:48.533 --> 00:37:50.966 AND IT SAYS, GOD, GIVE ME EYES TO SEE, YOU KNOW, 00:37:51.066 --> 00:37:53.833 GIVE ME -- REVELATION COMES FROM HEAVEN. 00:37:53.933 --> 00:37:55.466 IT DOESN'T COME FROM YOUR MIND 00:37:55.566 --> 00:37:56.566 IT HITS YOUR SPIRIT AND THEN YOUR 00:37:56.666 --> 00:37:57.466 MIND GETS IT LATER. 00:37:57.566 --> 00:37:58.599 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:37:58.699 --> 00:38:00.333 REBECCA: AND SO BUT THE WORD HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US 00:38:00.433 --> 00:38:02.132 AS A GUIDE AS TRUTH. 00:38:02.232 --> 00:38:03.699 AND SO WE DO NEED TO TAP INTO IT, 00:38:03.799 --> 00:38:05.699 BUT PEOPLE I THINK LOOK AT IT AS, OKAY, 00:38:05.799 --> 00:38:07.133 I'M GOING TO DO MY CHECKLIST OR I'M GOING TO 00:38:07.233 --> 00:38:09.066 DO THIS AND THEY LOSE THE RELATIONSHIP. 00:38:09.166 --> 00:38:11.366 THEY LOSE THE PERSON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO LIVES 00:38:11.466 --> 00:38:13.533 INSIDE THEM TO GUIDE THEM INTO ALL TRUTH. 00:38:13.633 --> 00:38:14.299 PHILIP: AND YOU KNOW WHAT? 00:38:14.399 --> 00:38:15.899 I LOVE LISTENING TO YOU TALK. 00:38:15.999 --> 00:38:19.132 I CAN SENSE, EVEN THOUGH WE JUST MET, THAT YOU HAVE A 00:38:19.232 --> 00:38:22.966 WELL OF INTIMACY WITH JESUS AND SOMEBODY NEEDS 00:38:23.066 --> 00:38:25.633 TO KNOW THAT THAT WELL COMES FROM INTIMACY AND 00:38:25.733 --> 00:38:27.966 PRAYER AND IT AFFECTS YOUR ABILITY TO -- 00:38:28.066 --> 00:38:28.799 WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, 00:38:28.899 --> 00:38:30.066 YOUR ABILITY TO HEAR. 00:38:30.166 --> 00:38:32.500 THE MORE WE PRAY, THE MORE SENSITIVE WE BE TO HIS VOICE. 00:38:32.600 --> 00:38:33.366 THE MORE WE PRAY, THE MORE 00:38:33.466 --> 00:38:35.166 WE GET REVELATION IN THE WORD. 00:38:35.266 --> 00:38:36.766 THE MORE WE PRAY, WE GET GUIDANCE. 00:38:36.866 --> 00:38:38.299 LIKE THE FOUNDATION OF ALL OF IT 00:38:38.399 --> 00:38:40.066 HAS TO BE INTIMACY WITH GOD. 00:38:40.166 --> 00:38:40.732 AND WHAT I HEAR 00:38:40.832 --> 00:38:42.032 POURING OUT OF YOU 00:38:42.132 --> 00:38:44.899 IS THIS DEEP INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST 00:38:44.999 --> 00:38:46.600 THAT IS BORN OUT OF THE WELL THAT YOU HAVE 00:38:46.700 --> 00:38:48.233 DEVELOPED IN PRAYER. 00:38:48.333 --> 00:38:49.399 AND IF WE CAN JUST GET MORE PEOPLE TO 00:38:49.499 --> 00:38:51.633 JUST START THERE AND TAKE THAT SERIOUS, MAN, OTHER 00:38:51.733 --> 00:38:52.933 THINGS WILL JUST FALL INTO PLACE. 00:38:53.033 --> 00:38:54.833 SO I JUST, I JUST HONOR YOU FOR THAT. 00:38:54.933 --> 00:38:55.999 LIKE IT'S, IT'S FOR ME, 00:38:56.099 --> 00:38:58.299 IT'S REFRESHING JUST LISTENING TO YOU TALK. 00:38:58.399 --> 00:38:59.566 BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING 00:38:59.666 --> 00:39:00.532 I LOVE THE MOST -- 00:39:00.632 --> 00:39:01.566 REBECCA: ME, TOO. 00:39:01.666 --> 00:39:02.933 PHILIP: IS JUST PRAYER TIME, LIKE I FEEL LIKE 00:39:03.033 --> 00:39:05.532 YOU'RE LIKE MY SISTER NOW, FOR REAL, RIGHT? 00:39:05.632 --> 00:39:06.499 REBECCA: WE HAVE THE SAME FATHER. 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:07.766 PHILIP: LIKE THIS FEELS SO CATHARSIS, 00:39:07.866 --> 00:39:08.766 LIKE WE'RE HAVING 00:39:08.866 --> 00:39:09.966 A WHOLE CATHARSIS RIGHT NOW ABOUT PRAYER. 00:39:10.066 --> 00:39:14.133 BUT I JUST, I JUST LOVE FEELING THAT ON YOU, 00:39:14.233 --> 00:39:15.300 THAT YOU TAKE THAT SERIOUS. 00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:16.533 AND I THINK THE BODY NEEDS 00:39:16.633 --> 00:39:18.232 A REVELATION ABOUT THAT. 00:39:18.332 --> 00:39:18.999 REBECCA: THEY DO. 00:39:19.099 --> 00:39:19.966 PHILIP: ABOUT PRAYER. 00:39:20.066 --> 00:39:21.232 REBECCA: AND YOUR WHOLE THING IS REVIVAL. 00:39:21.332 --> 00:39:21.833 PHILIP: YES. 00:39:21.933 --> 00:39:22.833 REBECCA: BUT LIKE -- 00:39:22.933 --> 00:39:23.899 PHILIP: BUT THAT IS BORN OUT OF PRAYER. 00:39:23.999 --> 00:39:24.732 REBECCA: EXACTLY. 00:39:24.832 --> 00:39:25.899 PHILIP: AND GOSPEL PREACHING. 00:39:25.999 --> 00:39:27.866 REBECCA: IT'S NOT -- REVIVAL IS NOT JUST A SERVICE 00:39:27.966 --> 00:39:28.899 WHERE GOD MOVES. 00:39:28.999 --> 00:39:31.632 REVIVAL IS BEING TRANSFORMED YOURSELF AND 00:39:31.732 --> 00:39:33.300 THEN BEING TRANSFORMED AS A BODY. 00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:37.066 PHILIP: AND THAT CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT PRAYER, REPENTANCE, 00:39:37.166 --> 00:39:38.099 AND GOSPEL PREACHING. 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:39.000 WE COULD TAKE THE WORD 00:39:39.100 --> 00:39:40.500 REVIVAL AND SMACK IT ON A SERVICE. 00:39:40.600 --> 00:39:41.733 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:39:41.833 --> 00:39:44.033 PHILIP: WITHOUT PRAYER, REPENTANCE AND GOSPEL PREACHING, 00:39:44.133 --> 00:39:45.033 THERE IS NO REVIVAL. 00:39:45.133 --> 00:39:47.166 REBECCA: REPENTANCE GETS SUCH A BAD REP. 00:39:47.266 --> 00:39:48.066 PHILIP: REPENTANCE IS BEAUTIFUL. 00:39:48.166 --> 00:39:48.733 REBECCA: IT'S BEAUTIFUL. 00:39:48.833 --> 00:39:49.900 IT'S JUST TURNING BACK. 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.066 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:39:51.166 --> 00:39:51.599 REBECCA: IT'S LIKE YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION, 00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:52.466 TURN BACK TO HIM. 00:39:52.566 --> 00:39:53.299 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:39:53.399 --> 00:39:54.133 REBECCA: I REPENT ALL THE TIME. 00:39:54.233 --> 00:39:55.133 PHILIP: SO DO I, DAILY. 00:39:55.233 --> 00:39:56.699 REBECCA: THERE'S NO SHAME BECAUSE GOD -- 00:39:56.799 --> 00:39:58.133 SHAME IS OF THE ENEMY. 00:39:58.233 --> 00:39:59.099 PHILIP: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:00.333 REBECCA: HE USES THAT TO PARALYZE US, 00:40:00.433 --> 00:40:02.132 TO DISTANCE US FROM GOD, 00:40:02.232 --> 00:40:04.566 TO DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM CHURCH, YOU KNOW, 00:40:04.666 --> 00:40:06.766 BUT GOD IS NOT -- HE CONVICTS, 00:40:06.866 --> 00:40:07.999 BUT HE DOES NOT SHAME. 00:40:08.099 --> 00:40:10.033 PHILIP: HE HAS OPEN ARMS AND HE ALWAYS WANTS US TO KEEP 00:40:10.133 --> 00:40:11.332 TURNING BACK TO HIM. 00:40:11.432 --> 00:40:13.033 IT'S JUST THE DEVIL TRYING TO KEEP US OUT THERE IN 00:40:13.133 --> 00:40:15.899 A CORNER AND SHAMED, MAN, YEAH. 00:40:15.999 --> 00:40:18.066 REBECCA: I WANT YOU REALLY QUICK TO TELL ABOUT YOUR ISRAEL 00:40:18.166 --> 00:40:19.532 2018 STORY. 00:40:19.632 --> 00:40:20.266 PHILIP: YEAH, REALLY QUICKLY. 00:40:20.366 --> 00:40:22.366 SO, YEAH, DECEMBER 2018, 00:40:22.466 --> 00:40:23.399 MY WIFE AND I GO TO ISRAEL. 00:40:23.499 --> 00:40:24.933 BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IN MY MINISTRY, 00:40:25.033 --> 00:40:26.966 I'M JUST SEEKING SOME SENSE OF -- 00:40:27.066 --> 00:40:27.932 REBECCA: YOU WERE A PASTOR. 00:40:28.032 --> 00:40:29.233 PHILIP: YEAH, I WAS PASTORING ALREADY. 00:40:29.333 --> 00:40:30.466 REBECCA: YOU WERE SEEKING? 00:40:30.566 --> 00:40:32.400 PHILIP: I WAS SEEKING SOME SENSE OF CLARITY ABOUT GOD. 00:40:32.500 --> 00:40:34.266 WHAT, WHAT AM I REALLY DOING? 00:40:34.366 --> 00:40:36.333 LIKE I FEEL LIKE I'M DOING MINISTRY, 00:40:36.433 --> 00:40:38.932 BUT SOMETHING IS MISSING AND I GO TO ISRAEL. 00:40:39.032 --> 00:40:39.466 I'M PRAYING. 00:40:39.566 --> 00:40:40.099 I'M FASTING. 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:41.099 I'M SEEKING THE LORD. 00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:42.966 LORD, I NEED YOU TO SPEAK TO ME. 00:40:43.066 --> 00:40:45.466 I DON'T GET ANYTHING UNTIL THE LAST DAY. 00:40:45.566 --> 00:40:46.466 THE VERY LAST DAY, 00:40:46.566 --> 00:40:48.033 THE VERY LAST PLACE, 00:40:48.133 --> 00:40:50.166 WE GO TO THE GARDEN TOMB. 00:40:50.266 --> 00:40:51.200 COME OUT THE GARDEN TOMB. 00:40:51.300 --> 00:40:53.366 THERE'S NO BONES THERE, BY THE WAY, RIGHT? 00:40:53.466 --> 00:40:56.500 SO JESUS IS ALIVE AND I HEAR SINGING 00:40:56.600 --> 00:40:57.633 IN A LANGUAGE 00:40:57.733 --> 00:40:59.666 I DID NOT KNOW, BUT I CAN FEEL THE SPIRIT OF GOD. 00:40:59.766 --> 00:41:02.400 SO, YOU KNOW, I SLIP INTO THE GATHERING, 00:41:02.500 --> 00:41:03.400 WITH MY WIFE. 00:41:03.500 --> 00:41:05.033 I'M THE ONLY BLACK DUDE IN THE GATHERING. 00:41:05.133 --> 00:41:06.199 AND THERE IS A DUDE 00:41:06.299 --> 00:41:08.366 ON MY BUS WHO SLIPS IN THE GATHERING WITH ME, RIGHT? 00:41:08.466 --> 00:41:09.999 SO THEY'RE SINGING IN THIS FOREIGN LANGUAGE. 00:41:10.099 --> 00:41:11.032 AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE, 00:41:11.132 --> 00:41:12.666 BUT I CAN FEEL THE SPIRIT OF GOD. 00:41:12.766 --> 00:41:13.666 AND THEN THE BROTHER 00:41:13.766 --> 00:41:15.333 WHO'S LEADING THE MEETING, HE MOTIONS TO ME 00:41:15.433 --> 00:41:16.833 COME DOWN TO THE FRONT. 00:41:16.933 --> 00:41:17.999 I WALKED DOWN TO THE FRONT, 00:41:18.099 --> 00:41:20.000 MY WIFE AND HIS FRIEND AND HE STARTS TALKING TO ME 00:41:20.100 --> 00:41:20.533 IN A LANGUAGE 00:41:20.633 --> 00:41:21.332 I DID NOT KNOW. 00:41:21.432 --> 00:41:22.566 IT WAS PORTUGUESE. 00:41:22.666 --> 00:41:24.599 IT JUST SO HAPPENED BY GOD'S DIVINE PROVIDENCE, 00:41:24.699 --> 00:41:27.132 THE BROTHER WHO WAS WITH ME ON A BUS WAS FROM BRAZIL. 00:41:27.232 --> 00:41:29.433 SO HE STARTS INTERPRETING IN THE MOMENT. 00:41:29.533 --> 00:41:31.866 AND THE MAN SAYS TO ME IN PORTUGUESE 00:41:31.966 --> 00:41:33.266 THROUGH THE INTERPRETATION, 00:41:33.366 --> 00:41:36.999 HE SAYS TO THE INTERPRETER, I'VE BEEN TO YOUR NATION. 00:41:37.099 --> 00:41:40.199 I'VE SEEN HOW THE CHURCH IS DEAD AND IS DYING. 00:41:40.299 --> 00:41:42.966 AND DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY AND SET 00:41:43.066 --> 00:41:45.366 FIRE TO THE BODY OF CHRIST? 00:41:45.466 --> 00:41:47.300 AND I SAID TO HIM, I SAID, YES, SIR. 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:48.166 AND I START TO WEEP. 00:41:48.266 --> 00:41:50.100 I FALL DOWN ON MY HANDS AND KNEES 00:41:50.200 --> 00:41:51.266 AND THEN THAT COMPANY OF BROTHERS 00:41:51.366 --> 00:41:52.399 AND SISTERS FROM BRAZIL, 00:41:52.499 --> 00:41:54.066 THEY LAY HANDS ON ME. 00:41:54.166 --> 00:41:56.666 THEY PRAY FOR ME AND I FEEL LIKE IN THAT MOMENT, 00:41:56.766 --> 00:41:59.700 GOD CHARGED ME TO COME BACK TO THIS COUNTRY 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.900 AND JUST PREACH AND CRY OUT 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:03.166 NO MATTER WHAT IT COST ME. 00:42:03.266 --> 00:42:04.566 I FEEL LIKE THE PASTOR 00:42:04.666 --> 00:42:05.532 I WAS DIED THERE. 00:42:05.632 --> 00:42:07.399 THE HUSBAND I WAS DIED THERE. 00:42:07.499 --> 00:42:08.499 THE FATHER I WAS DIE -- 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:09.632 EVERYTHING DIED THERE. 00:42:09.732 --> 00:42:11.732 THAT'S WHEN I STARTED WEARING BLACK AND I FEEL 00:42:11.832 --> 00:42:15.100 LIKE I CAME BACK TO THIS COUNTRY CONFLICTED THAT I 00:42:15.200 --> 00:42:19.766 HAVE TO SOUND AN ALARM AND CRY ALOUD 00:42:19.866 --> 00:42:21.499 NO MATTER WHAT IT COST ME. 00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:23.733 AND I'M CONTENT TO DO THAT. 00:42:23.833 --> 00:42:25.966 I'LL SAY THIS, 00:42:26.066 --> 00:42:27.866 UNTIL I GET MY ULTIMATE REWARD, 00:42:27.966 --> 00:42:29.699 THAT FOR ME, ME, 00:42:29.799 --> 00:42:31.733 PHILIP ANTHONY MITCHELL, SUCCESS IS NEVER GOING TO 00:42:31.833 --> 00:42:33.666 BE INSTAGRAM FOLLOWING. 00:42:33.766 --> 00:42:35.200 IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE A PLATFORM. 00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:36.466 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PODCAST. 00:42:36.566 --> 00:42:38.999 IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ME PREACHING FOR SOME CONFERENCE. 00:42:39.099 --> 00:42:42.366 FOR ME, CHRISTIAN SUCCESS WILL BE 00:42:42.466 --> 00:42:46.099 MY OBEDIENCE TO GET ME TO THE POINT WHERE I CAN SAY 00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:50.566 WHAT THE APOSTLE PAUL -- 00:42:50.666 --> 00:42:54.933 I FOUGHT THE GOOD FIGHT. 00:42:55.033 --> 00:42:57.333 I'VE KEPT THE FAITH. 00:42:57.433 --> 00:42:59.666 I'VE FINISHED MY RACE. 00:42:59.766 --> 00:43:03.866 AND NOW THERE'S LAID FOR ME A CROWN THAT THE LORD 00:43:03.966 --> 00:43:06.333 WOULD GIVE ME ON THAT DAY, THAT CROWN, 00:43:06.433 --> 00:43:07.866 I WANT THAT MORE THAN ANYTHING. 00:43:07.966 --> 00:43:09.866 AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD, REBECCA, TO THE DAY 00:43:09.966 --> 00:43:12.799 I TAKE THAT CROWN AND I LAY IT AT THE FEET 00:43:12.899 --> 00:43:13.633 OF THE ONE 00:43:13.733 --> 00:43:16.466 WHO RESCUED ME IN THAT BATHROOM. 00:43:16.566 --> 00:43:19.266 THAT'S WHAT I WANT MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. 00:43:19.366 --> 00:43:20.366 THAT'S THE MISSION I'M ON. 00:43:20.466 --> 00:43:23.066 AND I'M TRYING TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE TO 00:43:23.166 --> 00:43:26.266 FOLLOW JESUS AT THAT LEVEL AS POSSIBLE, TO COME ABOARD 00:43:26.366 --> 00:43:27.432 THE ARK OF SAFETY AS POSSIBLE 00:43:27.532 --> 00:43:30.066 BECAUSE TIME IS RUNNING OUT. 00:43:30.166 --> 00:43:32.033 REBECCA: YEAH, YOU FEEL THAT URGENCY. 00:43:32.133 --> 00:43:33.866 PHILIP: TIME IS RUNNING OUT. 00:43:33.966 --> 00:43:35.166 YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING? 00:43:35.266 --> 00:43:38.132 TIME IS RUNNING OUT. 00:43:38.232 --> 00:43:39.866 AND WHAT'S TRAGIC IS THAT WE HAVE CHRISTIANS 00:43:39.966 --> 00:43:41.366 WHO DON'T FEEL THAT, 00:43:41.466 --> 00:43:42.899 THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT. 00:43:42.999 --> 00:43:44.599 WE'RE PLAYING CHURCH, 00:43:44.699 --> 00:43:48.132 PLAYING PODCASTS, PLAYING CONFERENCES WHILE THE HAND 00:43:48.232 --> 00:43:49.799 OF THE LORD IS ON THE DOORKNOB, 00:43:49.899 --> 00:43:50.633 JUST WAITING FOR THE FATHER 00:43:50.733 --> 00:43:51.599 TO SAY GO NOW. 00:43:51.699 --> 00:43:52.666 I MEAN, THE HEADLINES OF THE 00:43:52.766 --> 00:43:54.766 NEWS ARE READING RIGHT OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES. 00:43:54.866 --> 00:43:56.500 TIME IS RUNNING OUT AND SOMEBODY WILL LOOK AT ME 00:43:56.600 --> 00:43:57.866 AND SAY YOU KNOW YOU'RE OVER THE TOP. 00:43:57.966 --> 00:43:58.766 REALLY? 00:43:58.866 --> 00:44:00.699 PAUL AND THE APOSTLE WAS TALKING LIKE 00:44:00.799 --> 00:44:03.499 THIS IN THE FIRST CENTURY WHEN THEY ONLY -- 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:04.466 A DECADE, TWO DECADES, 00:44:04.566 --> 00:44:05.866 THREE DECADES REMOVED FROM JESUS. 00:44:05.966 --> 00:44:07.966 THEY'RE PREACHING WITH URGENCY. 00:44:08.066 --> 00:44:09.266 WE'RE TWO MILLENNIA REMOVED. 00:44:09.366 --> 00:44:10.200 SHOULD NOT WE BE PREACHING 00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:11.399 WITH MORE URGENCY RIGHT NOW? 00:44:11.499 --> 00:44:13.399 WE HAVE LESS TIME NOW. 00:44:13.499 --> 00:44:15.499 I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WE'RE LIVING IN THE LAST SECONDS, 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.633 THE LAST HOURS OF THE CHURCH AGE. 00:44:17.733 --> 00:44:20.999 TIME IS RUNNING OUT AND NOW IS THE TIME TO GET 00:44:21.099 --> 00:44:23.566 RIGHT WITH CHRIST, TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THEIR 00:44:23.666 --> 00:44:26.099 RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD, TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT HIS WORD, 00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:27.466 TO HAVE INTIMACY WITH CHRIST, 00:44:27.566 --> 00:44:28.833 TO FOLLOW THE HOLY SPIRIT, 00:44:28.933 --> 00:44:30.933 TO CARE ABOUT THE SPREAD OF THE GOSPEL, 00:44:31.033 --> 00:44:32.700 SUPPORT MISSIONS, CHURCH PLANTING. 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.433 GIVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE 00:44:35.533 --> 00:44:38.133 TO THE WORK OF JESUS WHEREVER HE HAS PLANTED YOU, 00:44:38.233 --> 00:44:40.599 TO KNOW THAT OUR SAVIOR IS COMING SOON. 00:44:40.699 --> 00:44:44.766 AND WE BETTER BE FOUND FAITHFUL WHEN HE CRACKS THAT SKY. 00:44:44.866 --> 00:44:46.100 REBECCA: I JUST REALLY FEEL LED RIGHT NOW, 00:44:46.200 --> 00:44:48.033 BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. 00:44:48.133 --> 00:44:49.633 PHILIP, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WHO 00:44:49.733 --> 00:44:51.233 ARE FEELING THAT URGENCY? 00:44:51.333 --> 00:44:52.333 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:44:52.433 --> 00:44:53.500 REBECCA: AND PRAY FOR THEM? 00:44:53.600 --> 00:44:54.500 PHILIP: YEAH. 00:44:54.600 --> 00:44:56.199 UH, MAN, IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS PODCAST, 00:44:56.299 --> 00:44:58.866 YOU HEARD EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO HEAR. 00:44:58.966 --> 00:45:00.866 I'M SO SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. 00:45:00.966 --> 00:45:04.033 WE DO NOT HAVE ALL THIS TIME LEFT. 00:45:04.133 --> 00:45:04.866 THE LORD IS COMING. 00:45:04.966 --> 00:45:05.833 HE'S COMING VERY SOON, 00:45:05.933 --> 00:45:07.766 AND THIS IS NOT A GAME. 00:45:07.866 --> 00:45:09.466 AND WE NEED TO BE FOUND FAITHFUL 00:45:09.566 --> 00:45:10.566 WHEN HE COMES. 00:45:10.666 --> 00:45:12.433 THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO A BAG OR TRYING 00:45:12.533 --> 00:45:13.900 TO GET TO A PLATFORM. 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.333 IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO OBEDIENCE AND 00:45:15.433 --> 00:45:17.866 FAITHFULNESS WHEREVER HE'S PLANTED YOU. 00:45:17.966 --> 00:45:18.499 CAN I PRAY? 00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:19.633 REBECCA: YES, PLEASE. 00:45:19.733 --> 00:45:23.299 PHILIP: SO, FATHER, IN THE NAME OF THE HOLY ONE, 00:45:23.399 --> 00:45:25.633 I PRAY FOR ALL OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS 00:45:25.733 --> 00:45:29.999 WHO ARE WATCHING THIS PODCAST AND LISTENING RIGHT NOW. 00:45:30.099 --> 00:45:33.066 I PRAY, GOD, YOU WILL SEND FIRE THROUGH THIS CAMERA. 00:45:33.166 --> 00:45:34.533 FIRE THROUGH THIS MICROPHONE. 00:45:34.633 --> 00:45:38.966 THAT YOU WOULD AWAKEN THE SONS AND THE DAUGHTERS. 00:45:39.066 --> 00:45:41.233 I PRAY, GOD, LORD, THAT WE WOULD BE LIKE 00:45:41.333 --> 00:45:43.532 THE SONS OF ISSACHAR. 00:45:43.632 --> 00:45:46.233 WHO RIGHTLY DISCERNED THE TIMES AND THEY KNEW WHAT 00:45:46.333 --> 00:45:47.533 TO DO ABOUT IT. 00:45:47.633 --> 00:45:49.300 I PRAY THERE WOULD BE REVIVAL 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.799 IN AMERICA, BORN OF REPENTANCE 00:45:52.899 --> 00:45:56.133 AND GOSPEL PREACHING AND THE OUTPOURING OF 00:45:56.233 --> 00:45:57.066 THE HOLY SPIRIT. 00:45:57.166 --> 00:46:00.433 SET THE CHURCH ON FIRE. 00:46:00.533 --> 00:46:02.233 AND FATHER, WE PRAY FOR THE UNBELIEVER 00:46:02.333 --> 00:46:05.399 WHO CREPT INTO THE ROOM DIGITALLY. 00:46:05.499 --> 00:46:06.666 THEY'RE WATCHING AND THEY'RE NOT SAVED. 00:46:06.766 --> 00:46:07.700 THEY'RE LISTENING AND NOT SAVED. 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:09.833 WOULD YOU RESCUE THEM RIGHT NOW FROM 00:46:09.933 --> 00:46:11.132 THE DOMAIN OF DARKNESS? 00:46:11.232 --> 00:46:13.399 WOULD YOU RANSOM THEM FROM THAT DARK PLACE? 00:46:13.499 --> 00:46:16.366 WOULD YOU WOO THEM INTO THE KINGDOM RIGHT NOW? 00:46:16.466 --> 00:46:18.466 HELP THEM TO KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'RE SEARCHING 00:46:18.566 --> 00:46:20.466 FOR IS CHRIST. 00:46:20.566 --> 00:46:24.466 SO WE PRAY SALVATION FOR THE NON-BELIEVER WHO CREPT 00:46:24.566 --> 00:46:25.900 INTO THIS CONVERSATION. 00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:27.133 THAT YOU WOULD BRING THEM 00:46:27.233 --> 00:46:29.466 ABOARD THIS ARK OF SAFETY THAT THEY WILL KNOW THE 00:46:29.566 --> 00:46:31.966 LOVE OF CHRIST AND THE FORGIVENESS OF CHRIST 00:46:32.066 --> 00:46:33.900 AND THE PARDON OF CHRIST BEFORE TIME 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.433 HAS RUN OUT ON THEM. 00:46:35.533 --> 00:46:38.066 I PRAY THAT YOUR CHURCH WOULD COME ALIVE IN 00:46:38.166 --> 00:46:39.933 AMERICA AND AROUND THE WORLD. 00:46:40.033 --> 00:46:42.233 AND WE WILL LOVE WHAT YOU LOVE AND HATE WHAT YOU 00:46:42.333 --> 00:46:44.799 HATE AND WE WILL SEE REVIVAL IN OUR NATION. 00:46:44.899 --> 00:46:47.566 I'M ASKING THIS, LORD, AND FOR THOSE THINGS 00:46:47.666 --> 00:46:50.966 I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO PRAY IN THE MIGHTY 00:46:51.033 --> 00:46:53.400 AND THE MAJESTIC 00:46:53.500 --> 00:46:55.666 AND THE MATCHLESS NAME OF OUR LORD 00:46:55.766 --> 00:46:59.766 AND SAVIOR AND SOON-COMING-KING JESUS CHRIST. 00:46:59.866 --> 00:47:02.133 AMEN AND AMEN AND AMEN. 00:47:02.233 --> 00:47:02.499 REBECCA: AMEN.