WEBVTT 00:00:01.100 --> 00:00:06.333 BOB: YOU ARE SURROUNDED WITH NOISE AND THEN YOU WONDER 00:00:06.433 --> 00:00:10.099 WHY YOU CAN'T HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD. 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:13.666 IF YOU DON'T QUIET YOUR HEART, 00:00:13.766 --> 00:00:18.466 HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT WANTS TO 00:00:18.566 --> 00:00:20.899 SAY TO THE CHURCH IN THIS HOUR? 00:00:20.999 --> 00:00:22.399 HE WANTS TO TALK TO US. 00:00:22.499 --> 00:00:29.066 HE DID NOT COME TO THIS PLANET AS AN ENTREPRENEUR 00:00:29.166 --> 00:00:33.932 TO START UP A NEW VENTURE ON A PROMISING PLANET. 00:00:34.032 --> 00:00:37.666 HE CAME AS A LOVESICK BRIDEGROOM 00:00:37.766 --> 00:00:42.100 WHO IS LONGING FOR THE AFFECTIONS OF A BRIDE, 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.400 WHO IS BEING PERFECTED, AND ONE DAY 00:00:44.500 --> 00:00:45.999 THERE'S GOING TO BE A WEDDING. 00:00:59.466 --> 00:01:01.366 REBECCA: HEY, GUYS, WELCOME TO THE PODCAST. 00:01:01.466 --> 00:01:05.766 I AM VERY HONORED TO HAVE WITH US TODAY BOB SORGE, 00:01:05.866 --> 00:01:08.432 THE SPEAKER WHO CAN'T TALK. 00:01:08.532 --> 00:01:10.532 [ LAUGHTER ] 00:01:10.632 --> 00:01:15.100 REBECCA: BOB, FOR THOSE WHO ARE PROBABLY HEARING FROM YOU 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:16.166 FOR THE FIRST TIME, 00:01:16.266 --> 00:01:17.766 EXPLAIN WHY YOUR VOICE 00:01:17.866 --> 00:01:18.966 IS THE WAY IT IS 00:01:19.066 --> 00:01:21.800 AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU. 00:01:21.900 --> 00:01:24.132 BOB: YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT 00:01:24.232 --> 00:01:28.666 OF AN OXYMORON THAT THE LORD -- 00:01:28.766 --> 00:01:31.399 IT'S LIKE I LOST MY VOICE 00:01:31.499 --> 00:01:33.166 SO THAT I COULD FIND IT. 00:01:33.266 --> 00:01:36.166 IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING STORY. 00:01:36.266 --> 00:01:40.033 WHEN I WAS 35 YEARS OLD, 00:01:40.133 --> 00:01:44.133 I WAS PLUMMETED INTO THE CRISIS OF MY LIFE. 00:01:44.233 --> 00:01:48.100 I WENT INTO SURGERY FOR AN ISSUE IN MY VOICE 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:52.299 AND THE SURGERY BOTCHED SOMETHING. 00:01:52.399 --> 00:01:53.933 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WENT WRONG. 00:01:54.033 --> 00:01:55.533 AND SINCE THAT TIME, 00:01:55.633 --> 00:01:58.832 I HAVE A VERY SMALL VOICE. 00:01:58.932 --> 00:02:01.933 I'M REALLY APPRECIATING THIS EQUIPMENT THAT HAS 00:02:02.033 --> 00:02:03.599 THE MICROPHONE RIGHT ON MY LIPS. 00:02:03.699 --> 00:02:06.266 IT'S REALLY HELPING ME A LOT, REBECCA. 00:02:06.366 --> 00:02:10.633 AND SO I HAVE A VERY SMALL VOICE. 00:02:10.733 --> 00:02:16.166 AND IT'S BEEN PAINFUL TO SPEAK FOR 32 YEARS. 00:02:16.266 --> 00:02:21.866 AND SO IT'S BEEN QUITE AN INTENSE TRIAL. 00:02:21.966 --> 00:02:28.133 AND ONE OF, YOU KNOW, THE INJURY LAUNCHED ME INTO 00:02:28.233 --> 00:02:30.399 ALL KINDS OF CRISIS. 00:02:30.499 --> 00:02:32.932 IT PUT ME INTO A PROFESSIONAL CRISIS. 00:02:33.032 --> 00:02:34.733 I LOST MY PASTORATE AND I LOST, 00:02:34.833 --> 00:02:36.332 YOU KNOW, MY CAREER. 00:02:36.432 --> 00:02:38.633 IT PUT ME INTO A RELATIONAL CRISIS. 00:02:38.733 --> 00:02:45.433 I LOST MY FRIENDSHIPS AND PUT ME INTO A THEOLOGICAL CRISIS. 00:02:45.533 --> 00:02:48.399 I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THEOLOGICALLY HOW THIS 00:02:48.499 --> 00:02:50.966 COULD HAPPEN WHEN I'M LOVING JESUS, GIVING HIM 00:02:51.066 --> 00:02:53.899 EVERYTHING THAT I'VE GOT, AND TAKE A HIT THAT TAKES 00:02:53.999 --> 00:02:54.966 ME OUT ON EVERYTHING. 00:02:55.066 --> 00:02:58.266 I JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH THEOLOGY FOR THAT. 00:02:58.366 --> 00:03:01.699 I'M IN THE -- IN AN EMOTIONAL DARKNESS. 00:03:01.799 --> 00:03:04.999 EVERYTHING IS DARK AND NUMB AND BLACK 00:03:05.099 --> 00:03:09.133 AND ACTUALLY ENDURED A 15-YEAR DEPRESSION. 00:03:09.233 --> 00:03:13.966 SO THE LOSSES HAVE BEEN VERY STRONG. 00:03:14.066 --> 00:03:16.566 AND IN THE COURSE OF THAT JOURNEY, 00:03:16.666 --> 00:03:20.399 THE ONLY THING I KNEW TO DO WAS TO CHASE AFTER JESUS. 00:03:20.499 --> 00:03:22.566 I JUST DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ELSE TO DO. 00:03:22.666 --> 00:03:27.166 BUT GOD, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU AND I HAVE 00:03:27.266 --> 00:03:28.833 GOT TO FIND YOU. 00:03:28.933 --> 00:03:32.332 I HAVE GOT TO TOUCH YOU BECAUSE ALL I -- ALL I 00:03:32.432 --> 00:03:35.132 NEED IS JUST ONE TOUCH OF THE HEM OF YOUR GARMENT. 00:03:35.232 --> 00:03:36.433 THAT'S ALL I NEED. 00:03:36.533 --> 00:03:39.166 JUST TO TOUCH YOU AND YOU'RE THE 00:03:39.266 --> 00:03:40.399 ANSWER FOR EVERYTHING. 00:03:40.499 --> 00:03:41.466 YOU'RE MY HEALER. 00:03:41.566 --> 00:03:42.566 YOU'RE MY REDEEMER. 00:03:42.666 --> 00:03:43.699 YOU'RE MY RESTORER. 00:03:43.799 --> 00:03:44.866 YOU'RE EVERYTHING. 00:03:44.966 --> 00:03:49.032 AND SO I'VE BEEN PURSUING GOD LIKE A DYING, DROWNING 00:03:49.132 --> 00:03:52.700 MAN FOR 32 YEARS. 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.766 COMING AFTER HIM TO TOUCH 00:03:55.866 --> 00:03:58.332 THE HEM OF HIS GARMENT AND, YEAH, 00:03:58.432 --> 00:04:00.199 THAT'S MY STORY IN A NUTSHELL. 00:04:00.299 --> 00:04:05.566 I'M A DESPERATE MAN WHO'S REACHING FOR ALL OF GOD. 00:04:05.666 --> 00:04:06.599 REBECCA: THE BEST PEOPLE 00:04:06.699 --> 00:04:09.499 I THINK TO LISTEN TO ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:11.599 THROUGH TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS AND WHO HAVE 00:04:11.699 --> 00:04:15.466 WITHSTOOD TESTING AND HAVE COME OUT THE OTHER SIDE 00:04:15.566 --> 00:04:17.366 THAT CAN SHARE THE WISDOM. 00:04:17.466 --> 00:04:18.566 BOB: OH, WELL, HERE'S THE THING. 00:04:18.666 --> 00:04:24.233 ALL OF US GET WOUNDED IN LIFE IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER. 00:04:24.333 --> 00:04:28.633 AND IF THAT WOUND REMAINS OPEN AND FESTERING, 00:04:28.733 --> 00:04:30.732 YOU'RE USEFUL FOR NOTHING. 00:04:30.832 --> 00:04:34.299 BUT IF THAT WOUND WILL HEAL AND FORM A SCAR, 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:39.100 NOW THE SCAR BECOMES YOUR AUTHORITY. 00:04:39.200 --> 00:04:41.566 AND IT'S THOSE IN THE BRIDE, 00:04:41.666 --> 00:04:47.066 IN THE BODY OF CHRIST THAT HAVE SCARS FROM THEIR WOUNDS. 00:04:47.166 --> 00:04:49.233 OUR SCARS GIVE US OUR AUTHORITY. 00:04:49.333 --> 00:04:51.633 AND IF YOU HAVE A SCAR, 00:04:51.733 --> 00:04:57.033 NOW EVERYBODY WANTS YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A JOURNEY. 00:04:57.133 --> 00:05:00.733 THERE'S AUTHORITY BEHIND WHAT YOU SAY AND WHAT YOU DO. 00:05:00.833 --> 00:05:02.966 AND YOU KNOW, ON THE LAST DAY, 00:05:03.066 --> 00:05:04.632 JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE 00:05:04.732 --> 00:05:06.433 THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SCARS. 00:05:06.533 --> 00:05:07.566 THE BRIDE OF CHRIST IS 00:05:07.666 --> 00:05:09.466 ALSO GOING TO HAVE SCARS. 00:05:09.566 --> 00:05:15.032 AND OUR SCARS BECOME OUR -- 00:05:15.132 --> 00:05:18.266 THE TOKENS OF THE AFFECTION OF OUR INTIMACY 00:05:18.366 --> 00:05:21.666 WITH JESUS AND THEY BECOME THE EMBLEMS OF OUR 00:05:21.766 --> 00:05:24.699 AUTHORITY AND OUR JOURNEY IN GOD. 00:05:24.799 --> 00:05:31.199 SO ACTUALLY WHO WOULD WANT TO SHOW UP AT THE 00:05:31.299 --> 00:05:37.399 MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB WITH NO SCARS? 00:05:37.499 --> 00:05:42.166 WHEN JESUS TOOK IT TO THE CROSS AND DID IT FOR US 00:05:42.266 --> 00:05:48.199 AND HAS NOW INVITED US INTO A SIMILAR JOURNEY WITH HIM. 00:05:48.299 --> 00:05:50.366 SO I WANT TO DO IT WITH JESUS. 00:05:50.466 --> 00:05:51.966 I WANT TO SHARE IT WITH HIM. 00:05:52.066 --> 00:05:54.199 YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T WANT TO GET MARRIED TO AN 00:05:54.299 --> 00:05:58.099 IMMATURE BRAT THAT CAN'T RELATE TO HIS JOURNEY. 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.266 HE WANTS TO GET MARRIED TO A CO-EQUAL PARTNER THAT 00:06:01.366 --> 00:06:04.299 WHEN HE SAYS THE FATHER GAVE ME THIS BITTER CUP 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:05.332 TO DRINK SHE GOES, 00:06:05.432 --> 00:06:07.633 WELL, HE GAVE ME A BITTER CUP TO DRINK, TOO. 00:06:07.733 --> 00:06:09.333 AND WHEN JESUS GOES, 00:06:09.433 --> 00:06:12.999 YOU KNOW, I LOST EVERYTHING AND SHE'LL GO, 00:06:13.099 --> 00:06:15.200 WELL, I LOST EVERYTHING, TOO. 00:06:15.300 --> 00:06:16.332 AND HE'LL GO, 00:06:16.432 --> 00:06:19.466 BUT I'VE GOT SCARS HERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT I WENT 00:06:19.566 --> 00:06:23.299 THROUGH AND SHE'S GONNA SHOW HER SCARS AND THE 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:30.100 SCARS BECOME THE TOKENS OF OUR INTIMACY WITH JESUS. 00:06:30.200 --> 00:06:36.800 I'M GRATEFUL TO THE LORD FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF 00:06:36.900 --> 00:06:40.000 SHARING IN A BATTLE. 00:06:40.100 --> 00:06:43.633 IF JESUS COULDN'T TAKE DOWN 00:06:43.733 --> 00:06:47.399 SATAN WITHOUT INCURRING SCARS, 00:06:47.499 --> 00:06:51.200 WHAT MAKES ME THINK I CAN OVERCOME WITHOUT SCARS. 00:06:51.300 --> 00:06:52.899 REBECCA: THAT'S PROFOUND. 00:06:52.999 --> 00:06:55.199 BOB: SO YEAH, IT'S PART OF OUR JOURNEY. 00:06:55.299 --> 00:06:58.532 REBECCA: YOU KNOW, THE THING, TOO, IS IT SAYS IN PHILIPPIANS 00:06:58.632 --> 00:07:01.766 PAUL SAYS, I WANT TO KNOW CHRIST. 00:07:01.866 --> 00:07:03.699 HE SAYS THE POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION, 00:07:03.799 --> 00:07:05.599 BUT BEFORE THAT HE SAYS THE FELLOWSHIP 00:07:05.699 --> 00:07:06.766 OF HIS SUFFERINGS. 00:07:06.866 --> 00:07:07.966 BOB: YES. 00:07:08.066 --> 00:07:09.733 REBECCA: AND SO FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED 00:07:09.833 --> 00:07:11.633 INTO RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM AND SAID, JESUS, 00:07:11.733 --> 00:07:12.533 I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU, 00:07:12.633 --> 00:07:14.566 THAT'S PART OF THE RELATIONSHIP. 00:07:14.666 --> 00:07:18.599 AND WE CAN'T INCUR SCARS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH SUFFERING. 00:07:18.699 --> 00:07:21.299 AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT CAN'T JUST BE A WOUND. 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:23.699 YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE HEALING AND THAT SCAR IS 00:07:23.799 --> 00:07:27.666 A STORY OF HOW GOD BROUGHT YOU THROUGH PAIN. 00:07:27.766 --> 00:07:31.366 AND EVEN PAUL TALKED ABOUT IN SCRIPTURE THE SCARS THAT 00:07:31.466 --> 00:07:34.633 HE INCURRED THROUGH PERSECUTION OF SPREADING 00:07:34.733 --> 00:07:38.233 THE GOSPEL IN AREAS WHERE IT WAS NOT, 00:07:38.333 --> 00:07:39.199 YOU KNOW, PERMITTED. 00:07:39.299 --> 00:07:40.566 AND HE TOOK THE SCARS. 00:07:40.666 --> 00:07:43.733 HE SAYS ON MY BODY I BEAR THE SCARS OF SHARING CHRIST. 00:07:43.833 --> 00:07:45.699 AND SO YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. 00:07:45.799 --> 00:07:46.899 AND ONE OF THE THINGS 00:07:46.999 --> 00:07:49.966 THAT I WANTED TO TAP ON AS WELL TO GIVE 00:07:50.066 --> 00:07:52.000 CONTEXT BECAUSE YOU HIT ON THAT WITH YOUR STORY 00:07:52.100 --> 00:07:54.333 IS THAT YOU HAD BEEN PASTORING, 00:07:54.433 --> 00:07:55.533 YOU'D BEEN A WORSHIP LEADER. 00:07:55.633 --> 00:07:59.366 SO YOUR VOICE WAS PIVOTAL. 00:07:59.466 --> 00:08:00.366 BOB: EVERYTHING. 00:08:00.466 --> 00:08:01.766 REBECCA: IT WAS EVERYTHING AND WHAT YOU 00:08:01.866 --> 00:08:03.966 WERE WALKING IN, IN YOUR CALL 00:08:04.066 --> 00:08:05.666 AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE DOING. 00:08:05.766 --> 00:08:08.633 AND THEN SEEMINGLY, IT WAS TAKEN FROM YOU LIKE THAT. 00:08:08.733 --> 00:08:11.233 AND THAT CAUSED A MAJOR CRISIS IN YOUR LIFE, 00:08:11.333 --> 00:08:14.666 AND YOU HAD TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW GOD TO SHIFT YOUR 00:08:14.766 --> 00:08:18.299 IDENTITY OUT OF BEING A WORSHIP LEADER, 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.499 BEING A PASTOR THAT'S -- AND GIVING UP YOUR CHURCH, 00:08:22.599 --> 00:08:25.033 BUT YOU ALLOWED HIM TO SHIFT THE IDENTITY FOR YOU 00:08:25.133 --> 00:08:28.066 TO DO A NEW THING AND A NEW SEASON. 00:08:28.166 --> 00:08:29.733 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? 00:08:29.833 --> 00:08:36.566 BOB: JOB SAYS THE LORD HAS GIVEN AND THE LORD HAS TAKEN AWAY 00:08:36.666 --> 00:08:39.466 BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD. 00:08:39.566 --> 00:08:43.199 AND WE LOVE THE GOD WHO GIVES. 00:08:43.299 --> 00:08:44.366 ALL OF US 00:08:44.466 --> 00:08:46.332 LOVE THE GOD WHO GIVES. 00:08:46.432 --> 00:08:50.766 BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WITH A GOD WHO TAKES AWAY? 00:08:50.866 --> 00:08:56.633 AND SOMETIMES HE ACTUALLY TAKES IT AWAY FROM US. 00:08:56.733 --> 00:08:59.133 HE TOOK IT AWAY FROM JOB. 00:08:59.233 --> 00:09:03.499 AND IF YOU FOLLOWED HIS STORY, 00:09:03.599 --> 00:09:07.900 YOU KNOW THAT JOB CAME INTO A RICH FATHERHOOD 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.966 AND ACTUALLY WHAT GOD HAD IN HIS HEART FOR JOB 00:09:11.066 --> 00:09:13.033 WAS SO MUCH MORE. 00:09:13.133 --> 00:09:16.800 AND SOMETIMES I THINK THAT'S WHAT, WHAT'S 00:09:16.900 --> 00:09:17.866 IN THE HEART OF GOD. 00:09:17.966 --> 00:09:21.766 HE'S LIKE, IF YOU'LL WALK WITH ME IN THIS, 00:09:21.866 --> 00:09:26.333 IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A LOSS ON THE FRONT END. 00:09:26.433 --> 00:09:29.400 BUT IF YOU WILL WALK WITH ME IN IT, 00:09:29.500 --> 00:09:32.399 AND I'M GONNA SO ENRICH YOUR LIFE, 00:09:32.499 --> 00:09:35.300 THAT BY THE TIME IT'S OVER, 00:09:35.400 --> 00:09:41.133 I WILL, I WILL GIVE TO YOU FAR MORE THAN IF THE TRIAL 00:09:41.233 --> 00:09:43.499 HAD NEVER HAPPENED. 00:09:43.599 --> 00:09:45.333 THAT'S WHAT REDEMPTION STORIES ARE ALL 00:09:45.433 --> 00:09:46.900 ABOUT IN THE SCRIPTURES. 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:51.700 WHERE GOD USES A PROFOUND TRIAL 00:09:51.800 --> 00:09:55.833 TO IN THE END GIVE MUCH MORE THAN IF 00:09:55.933 --> 00:09:57.599 THE TRIAL HAD NEVER HAPPENED. 00:09:57.699 --> 00:10:00.433 THAT'S -- JOSEPH'S STORY IS A REDEMPTION STORY. 00:10:00.533 --> 00:10:03.166 JOB'S STORY IS A REDEMPTION STORY. 00:10:03.266 --> 00:10:04.799 THERE'S NOT VERY MANY OF THEM IN THE BIBLE, 00:10:04.899 --> 00:10:06.399 BUT THERE ARE SOME REDEMPTION STORIES 00:10:06.499 --> 00:10:07.666 AND THEY'RE MY FAVORITES 00:10:07.766 --> 00:10:10.099 BECAUSE IT'S HOW GOD WILL 00:10:10.199 --> 00:10:14.500 TAKE WHAT SEEMS TO BE A SETBACK AND A LOSS IN THE 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:18.566 MOMENT AND REDEEM IT BECAUSE OF OUR COOPERATION 00:10:18.666 --> 00:10:19.566 WITH HIS GRACE. 00:10:19.666 --> 00:10:23.533 REDEEM IT TO BECOME A REDEMPTION STORY. 00:10:23.633 --> 00:10:27.566 AND THOSE ARE THE STORIES THAT ACTUALLY 00:10:27.666 --> 00:10:32.266 BROADCAST THE GOODNESS OF GOD IN THE MOST GLORIOUS 00:10:32.366 --> 00:10:34.266 WAY IN THE BIBLE. 00:10:34.366 --> 00:10:35.666 THE REDEMPTION STORIES OF THE 00:10:35.766 --> 00:10:39.266 BIBLE ARE ACTUALLY OUR FAVORITE STORIES. 00:10:39.366 --> 00:10:43.833 BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE A REDEMPTION STORY, 00:10:43.933 --> 00:10:54.233 THERE HAS TO BE A PROFOUND REAL LOSS. 00:10:54.333 --> 00:10:56.499 JOSEPH'S LOST, HE IS IN PRISON. 00:10:56.599 --> 00:10:58.466 HE'S LOST EVERYTHING. 00:10:58.566 --> 00:11:02.366 THE GUT-WRENCHING LOSSES THAT 00:11:02.466 --> 00:11:07.066 ARE REAL, THAT ARE IMPACTING, LIFE-ALTERING. 00:11:07.166 --> 00:11:09.899 IN EVERY REDEMPTION STORY IN THE BIBLE, 00:11:09.999 --> 00:11:13.999 THE LOSSES ARE SO STRONG AND SO REAL AND THAT'S 00:11:14.099 --> 00:11:15.466 WHAT MAKES IT A GOOD STORY. 00:11:15.566 --> 00:11:17.400 BECAUSE IF THE LOSSES WERE REAL, 00:11:17.500 --> 00:11:22.266 IT WOULD BE SURFACE AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE 00:11:22.366 --> 00:11:25.499 THE SUBSTANCE AND THE STRENGTH TO IT, 00:11:25.599 --> 00:11:29.766 BUT GOD IS A FANTASTIC STORY WRITER. 00:11:29.866 --> 00:11:34.166 AND HE WILL CRAFT A REDEMPTION STORY THROUGH OUR LOSSES. 00:11:34.266 --> 00:11:37.533 SO I'M, I'M ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, 00:11:37.633 --> 00:11:42.199 I FEEL A LITTLE BIT SPECIAL LIKE HE JUST LOVES 00:11:42.299 --> 00:11:45.699 ME ENOUGH THAT HE JUST DIDN'T LEAVE ME TO MYSELF. 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:50.633 HE LOVED ME ENOUGH THAT HE DIDN'T LET ME CHOOSE MY OWN WAY. 00:11:50.733 --> 00:11:52.766 BECAUSE IF I HAD CHOSEN MY OWN WAY, 00:11:52.866 --> 00:11:57.133 REBECCA, IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED NOTHING LIKE THIS. 00:11:57.233 --> 00:12:00.100 I WAS HEADED IN THIS DIRECTION. 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:06.099 AND IT'S LIKE HE SAID, I'M GONNA TAKE YOU IN THIS DIRECTION. 00:12:06.199 --> 00:12:09.299 AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE GOD WHO 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:15.099 INTERRUPTED MY LIFE AND HAS TAKEN ME ON A JOURNEY. 00:12:15.199 --> 00:12:17.000 IT'S NOT OVER YET. 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:19.899 AND I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO. 00:12:19.999 --> 00:12:21.366 REBECCA: I WANT YOU TO SPEAK TO THAT. 00:12:21.466 --> 00:12:26.200 I WANT YOU TO SPEAK TO WHEN EVERYTHING SHIFTED 00:12:26.300 --> 00:12:30.233 WHAT HAS GOD DONE THROUGH THIS THING THAT SEEMED TO 00:12:30.333 --> 00:12:36.499 BE MEANT FOR EVIL AND GOD HAS TURNED IT FOR GOOD. 00:12:36.599 --> 00:12:39.800 BOB: WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CAN POINT TO 00:12:39.900 --> 00:12:44.099 AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A, 00:12:44.199 --> 00:12:49.032 IMMEASURABLE THING IS THAT FROM THIS JOURNEY, 00:12:49.132 --> 00:12:52.433 THERE HAVE COME 31 BOOKS TO DATE. 00:12:52.533 --> 00:12:55.099 AND I'M NOT EVEN AN AUTHOR. 00:12:55.199 --> 00:12:56.999 I DON'T EVEN LIKE TO WRITE, 00:12:57.099 --> 00:13:00.666 BUT THE LORD, JUST THE JOURNEY THAT GOD HAS LED 00:13:00.766 --> 00:13:04.866 ME ON BECAUSE THE VOICE SHUT DOWN, 00:13:04.966 --> 00:13:06.733 THE WRITING OPENED UP, 00:13:06.833 --> 00:13:11.199 AND NOW THE LORD HAS TAKEN MY BOOKS 00:13:11.299 --> 00:13:13.800 LITERALLY AROUND THE WORLD. 00:13:13.900 --> 00:13:16.399 AND I HAVE, I MEAN, 00:13:16.499 --> 00:13:18.132 JUST AN EXAMPLE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BRAZIL 00:13:18.232 --> 00:13:21.166 BEFORE THIS, BEFORE THIS SET STARTED AND I'VE GOT 00:13:21.266 --> 00:13:23.866 LIKE 20 OF MY BOOKS IN BRAZIL. 00:13:23.966 --> 00:13:25.999 MY BOOKS ARE ALL OVER BRAZIL, 00:13:26.099 --> 00:13:27.066 THEY'RE ALL OVER KOREA. 00:13:27.166 --> 00:13:28.366 THEY'RE ALL OVER RUSSIA. 00:13:28.466 --> 00:13:30.733 IT'S JUST, JUST AMAZING TO ME 00:13:30.833 --> 00:13:34.699 HOW GOD HAS TAKEN THE MESSAGE OF WHAT 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:35.900 HE'S PUT IN MY HEART, 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:41.166 WHAT HE -- BASICALLY, REBECCA, MY BOOKS ARE MY STORY 00:13:41.266 --> 00:13:42.166 PUT ON PAPER. 00:13:42.266 --> 00:13:45.799 IT'S THE GUT-WRENCHING WRESTLING WITH GOD 00:13:45.899 --> 00:13:49.333 AND THE RHEMAS, THE LIVING WORDS OF GOD THAT 00:13:49.433 --> 00:13:52.033 HAVE SUSTAINED ME IN MY JOURNEY. 00:13:52.133 --> 00:13:56.899 AND I'VE DISCOVERED THAT WHEN GOD FEEDS ME WITH SOMETHING 00:13:56.999 --> 00:13:59.666 THAT IT ACTUALLY FEEDS OTHERS AS WELL. 00:13:59.766 --> 00:14:02.900 SO I'M JUST LIKE A BEGGER, SHARING THE LOVE THAT 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:04.199 JESUS GAVE ME HERE, 00:14:04.299 --> 00:14:06.066 HAVE A, HAVE A PIECE OF THIS ONE. 00:14:06.166 --> 00:14:08.099 THIS ONE KEPT ME ALIVE. 00:14:08.199 --> 00:14:09.699 AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I DO. 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.133 I JUST GO AROUND SHARING THE THINGS THAT HAVE KEPT 00:14:12.233 --> 00:14:14.500 ME ALIVE IN MY JOURNEY. 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:19.366 REBECCA: WHEN YOU EXPERIENCED THE LOSS IN YOUR VOICE, 00:14:19.466 --> 00:14:22.032 HOW DID YOU KNOW TO GO TO THE SECRET PLACE? 00:14:22.132 --> 00:14:24.099 AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING AND THEY DON'T KNOW 00:14:24.199 --> 00:14:25.566 ANYTHING ABOUT THE SECRET PLACE, 00:14:25.666 --> 00:14:29.366 WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE? 00:14:29.466 --> 00:14:34.799 BOB: THE SECRET PLACE HAS BEEN MY SURVIVAL. 00:14:34.899 --> 00:14:36.932 I CALL MYSELF A SECRET PLACE SURVIVOR. 00:14:37.032 --> 00:14:40.732 I MEAN, I WOULD NOT BE IN THIS STUDIO WITH YOU RIGHT NOW, 00:14:40.832 --> 00:14:44.899 REBECCA, IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE SECRET PLACE OF 00:14:44.999 --> 00:14:48.766 SITTING AT HIS FEET, HEARING HIS WORD, 00:14:48.866 --> 00:14:51.666 AND THE WORD OF GOD BEING, 00:14:51.766 --> 00:14:55.499 HIS WORD IS OUR LIFE. 00:14:55.599 --> 00:14:58.766 AND WHEN HE SPEAKS IT, 00:14:58.866 --> 00:15:01.600 HIS WORD IMPARTS LIFE TO US. 00:15:01.700 --> 00:15:03.733 THIS IS HOW WE LIVE. 00:15:03.833 --> 00:15:05.099 THIS IS HOW I LIVE. 00:15:05.199 --> 00:15:09.200 MY -- HE IS MY OXYGEN. 00:15:09.300 --> 00:15:11.799 HE'S MY SANITY. 00:15:11.899 --> 00:15:13.833 WHEN MY -- I FELT LIKE THERE WERE TIMES, 00:15:13.933 --> 00:15:16.000 I'M GONNA LOSE MY MIND. 00:15:16.100 --> 00:15:16.933 I DIDN'T KNOW, 00:15:17.033 --> 00:15:19.132 I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HOW TO PROCESS 00:15:19.232 --> 00:15:21.433 THE INTENSITY OF WHAT I WAS LIVING THROUGH. 00:15:21.533 --> 00:15:23.566 AND HIS WORD HAS 00:15:23.666 --> 00:15:25.766 KEPT ME ALIVE. 00:15:25.866 --> 00:15:30.099 AND I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THE SECRET PLACE, 00:15:30.199 --> 00:15:34.599 FOR SITTING AT HIS FEET AND HEARING HIS WORD. 00:15:34.699 --> 00:15:40.633 AND HE SAID THAT THE FATHER IS IN THE SECRET PLACE. 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:44.966 AND WHEN YOU SHUT YOUR DOOR, 00:15:45.066 --> 00:15:47.266 YOU'RE IN THE PRESENCE OF YOUR FATHER. 00:15:47.366 --> 00:15:50.100 HE'S BEEN WAITING THERE FOR YOU. 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:50.899 JUST SHUT YOUR DOOR, 00:15:50.999 --> 00:15:51.933 IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO 00:15:52.033 --> 00:15:54.833 AND YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY IN THE PRESENCE 00:15:54.933 --> 00:15:56.466 OF YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER 00:15:56.566 --> 00:16:00.800 AND NOW THE CONVERSATION BEGINS. 00:16:00.900 --> 00:16:02.832 AND NOW I'M LIKE 00:16:02.932 --> 00:16:06.933 I WANT TO OPEN MY EARS AND OPEN MY HEART 00:16:07.033 --> 00:16:10.066 AND RECEIVE WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY. 00:16:10.166 --> 00:16:10.899 AND I JUST WANT TO, 00:16:10.999 --> 00:16:13.133 I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS RIGHT NOW 00:16:13.233 --> 00:16:14.699 TO OUR STUDIO AUDIENCE, 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:18.266 REBECCA, JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT TO SAY THIS. 00:16:18.366 --> 00:16:23.366 THERE'S TOO MUCH NOISE IN YOUR LIFE. 00:16:23.466 --> 00:16:26.000 YOU HAVE TOO MANY VOICES. 00:16:26.100 --> 00:16:27.933 YOU HAVE TOO MANY DEVICES. 00:16:28.033 --> 00:16:30.099 YOU'VE GOT TOO MUCH MEDIA. 00:16:30.199 --> 00:16:32.400 THERE'S TOO MUCH CACOPHONY. 00:16:32.500 --> 00:16:37.499 THERE'S TOO MUCH STUFF COMING AT YOU AND YOU ARE 00:16:37.599 --> 00:16:41.799 SURROUNDED WITH NOISE. 00:16:41.899 --> 00:16:49.099 AND THEN YOU WONDER WHY YOU CAN'T HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD. 00:16:49.199 --> 00:16:51.466 WE HAVE TO COME ASIDE. 00:16:51.566 --> 00:16:55.033 WE HAVE TO SHUT OUT THE VOICES. 00:16:55.133 --> 00:16:58.899 WE HAVE TO COME ASIDE INTO THE SECRET PLACE LIKE JESUS DID, 00:16:58.999 --> 00:17:00.166 LIKE HE MODELED FOR US. 00:17:00.266 --> 00:17:01.699 HE SHOWED US HOW TO DO IT. 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:06.166 HE PRACTICED IT HIMSELF. 00:17:06.266 --> 00:17:08.366 COME ASIDE, 00:17:08.466 --> 00:17:09.933 SHUT YOUR DOOR, 00:17:10.033 --> 00:17:13.199 AND QUIET YOUR HEART. 00:17:13.299 --> 00:17:16.632 BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD. 00:17:16.732 --> 00:17:20.166 WE'VE GOT TO GET STILL AGAIN. 00:17:20.266 --> 00:17:24.132 IF YOU DON'T QUIET YOUR HEART, 00:17:24.232 --> 00:17:28.799 HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT WANTS TO 00:17:28.899 --> 00:17:30.899 SAY TO THE CHURCH IN THIS HOUR? 00:17:30.999 --> 00:17:32.866 HE WANTS TO TALK TO US. 00:17:32.966 --> 00:17:35.466 BUT WE HAVE TO -- 00:17:35.566 --> 00:17:41.099 WE'VE GOT TO SHUT THE DOOR ON ALL THE NOISE. 00:17:41.199 --> 00:17:49.266 JESUS SAID, BEHOLD, I STAND AT THE DOOR AND KNOCK. 00:17:49.366 --> 00:17:50.800 HE WANTS IN. 00:17:50.900 --> 00:17:55.100 HE'S KNOCKING AT THE DOOR OF OUR HEARTS. 00:17:55.200 --> 00:18:00.299 SO I'VE GOT A SIMPLE WORD FOR SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW 00:18:00.399 --> 00:18:02.800 LISTENING TO THIS. 00:18:02.900 --> 00:18:04.699 CLOSE YOUR DOOR 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:08.266 AND THEN OPEN YOUR DOOR. 00:18:08.366 --> 00:18:11.833 THERE IT IS AND I'M TALKING ABOUT CLOSE 00:18:11.933 --> 00:18:14.799 THE DOOR OF YOUR ROOM 00:18:14.899 --> 00:18:20.866 AND THEN OPEN THE DOOR OF YOUR HEART. 00:18:20.966 --> 00:18:31.499 BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HAVE THIS LIVING, BREATHING RELATIONSHIP. 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:34.266 JESUS IS THE MOST RELATIONAL PERSON 00:18:34.366 --> 00:18:36.732 IN THE UNIVERSE. 00:18:36.832 --> 00:18:39.366 HE WANTS TO TALK. 00:18:39.466 --> 00:18:40.899 HE WANTS TO RELATE. 00:18:40.999 --> 00:18:45.233 HE WANTS IT TO BE PERSONAL. 00:18:45.333 --> 00:18:51.866 HE DID NOT COME TO THIS PLANET AS AN ENTREPRENEUR 00:18:51.966 --> 00:18:57.432 TO START UP A NEW VENTURE ON A PROMISING PLANET. 00:18:57.532 --> 00:19:01.366 HE CAME AS A LOVESICK BRIDEGROOM 00:19:01.466 --> 00:19:06.066 WHO IS LONGING FOR THE AFFECTIONS OF A BRIDE 00:19:06.166 --> 00:19:07.699 WHO IS BEING PERFECTED. 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:08.866 AND ONE DAY, 00:19:08.966 --> 00:19:12.200 THERE'S GONNA BE A WEDDING AND WE'RE GONNA BE JOINED 00:19:12.300 --> 00:19:15.600 TOGETHER WITH JESUS FOREVER. 00:19:15.700 --> 00:19:17.799 THE WHOLE THING IS SO INTIMATE. 00:19:17.899 --> 00:19:19.799 IT'S SO ROMANTIC. 00:19:19.899 --> 00:19:21.666 IT'S SO PERSONAL. 00:19:21.766 --> 00:19:24.500 IT'S SO VISCERAL. 00:19:24.600 --> 00:19:31.699 IT'S REAL AND THE SECRET PLACE IS WHERE WE ENTER 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:37.933 THE DOOR TO FIND THAT KIND OF PASSIONATE INTIMATE 00:19:38.033 --> 00:19:40.899 RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS. 00:19:40.999 --> 00:19:45.200 REBECCA: WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS 00:19:45.300 --> 00:19:46.666 TO GET INTO THE SECRET PLACE, 00:19:46.766 --> 00:19:53.533 BUT DOESN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO DO THAT? 00:19:53.633 --> 00:19:59.999 BOB: YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS ME A LOT, 00:20:00.099 --> 00:20:03.632 AND THIS IS, THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY PRACTICAL. 00:20:03.732 --> 00:20:09.533 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS ME A LOT IS TO ESTABLISH 00:20:09.633 --> 00:20:16.899 A BIBLE READING GOAL FOR MY LIFE EACH YEAR. 00:20:16.999 --> 00:20:18.732 AND SO IN MY CASE, 00:20:18.832 --> 00:20:21.266 I LIKE TO READ THROUGH THE BIBLE ONCE A YEAR. 00:20:21.366 --> 00:20:26.066 AND MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT HAVE A GOAL OF MAYBE READ 00:20:26.166 --> 00:20:28.933 THROUGH THE BIBLE EVERY 2 YEARS OR WHATEVER IT IS. 00:20:29.033 --> 00:20:34.532 BUT WHEN I ESTABLISH A READING GOAL, 00:20:34.632 --> 00:20:37.266 THEN WHAT I DO AND THIS IS JUST THE WAY 00:20:37.366 --> 00:20:38.832 I DO IT PERSONALLY, REBECCA. 00:20:38.932 --> 00:20:41.633 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT, THAT, THAT 00:20:41.733 --> 00:20:42.733 PEOPLE WILL DO THIS. 00:20:42.833 --> 00:20:47.966 BUT I WILL FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PAGES IN MY IPAD, 00:20:48.066 --> 00:20:51.832 BECAUSE I READ AN E-BOOK ON MY IPAD AND I JUST DO 00:20:51.932 --> 00:20:53.766 MY BIBLE READING ON MY IPAD. 00:20:53.866 --> 00:20:54.999 AND SO I FIGURE OUT 00:20:55.099 --> 00:21:01.099 HOW MANY PAGES DO I NEED TO READ A DAY 00:21:01.199 --> 00:21:04.266 IF I'M GONNA GET THROUGH IN A YEAR. 00:21:04.366 --> 00:21:05.300 AND BY THE WAY, 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:07.533 I HAVE MY BIBLE READING PLAN ON THIS SITE. 00:21:07.633 --> 00:21:08.333 IF YOU WANT TO READ 00:21:08.433 --> 00:21:09.366 ABOUT MY BIBLE READING PLAN, 00:21:09.466 --> 00:21:14.232 IT'S FOUND AT PRAYERRESET.COM. 00:21:14.332 --> 00:21:15.433 AND YOU CAN FIND MY BIBLE 00:21:15.533 --> 00:21:18.799 READING PLAN THERE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 00:21:18.899 --> 00:21:22.233 I LIKE TO READ EVERY DAY IN FOUR PLACES 00:21:22.333 --> 00:21:23.433 IN THE BIBLE. 00:21:23.533 --> 00:21:26.166 I'M ALWAYS READING IN PSALMS. 00:21:26.266 --> 00:21:29.132 I HAVE A PSALM READING EVERY DAY. 00:21:29.232 --> 00:21:31.966 AND I TRY TO WORK THROUGH THE BOOK OF PSALMS 00:21:32.066 --> 00:21:33.800 ONCE A YEAR. 00:21:33.900 --> 00:21:35.733 I JUST LOVE THE BOOK OF PSALMS. 00:21:35.833 --> 00:21:37.832 THEN I HAVE AN OLD TESTAMENT READING WHERE 00:21:37.932 --> 00:21:39.999 I'M READING THROUGH THE OLD TESTAMENT. 00:21:40.099 --> 00:21:42.432 SO I WILL, I'LL START WITH A PSALM, 00:21:42.532 --> 00:21:45.166 THEN I'LL DO MY READING IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. 00:21:45.266 --> 00:21:47.132 MAYBE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, 20. 00:21:47.232 --> 00:21:50.699 I'VE GOT TO READ 20 PAGES A DAY TO GET THROUGH THE 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:52.533 WHOLE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, 00:21:52.633 --> 00:21:55.600 DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF YOUR KINDLE 00:21:55.700 --> 00:21:56.366 OR YOUR READER, 00:21:56.466 --> 00:21:58.900 WHATEVER, OR YOUR PAPER BIBLE. 00:21:59.000 --> 00:21:59.666 AND THEN I HAVE 00:21:59.766 --> 00:22:00.699 A GOSPEL READING. 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:03.866 I READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN AND I HAVE 00:22:03.966 --> 00:22:05.900 A READING IN THE GOSPELS. 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.466 SO THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, 00:22:08.566 --> 00:22:10.932 I'M READING THE ENTIRE GOSPELS, 00:22:11.032 --> 00:22:13.733 AND THEN I HAVE AN EPISTLE READING WHERE I'M READING 00:22:13.833 --> 00:22:15.533 ACTS THROUGH REVELATION AND I'M READING 00:22:15.633 --> 00:22:17.199 THROUGH THAT ONCE HERE. 00:22:17.299 --> 00:22:21.066 SO I'M IN FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES EVERY DAY. 00:22:21.166 --> 00:22:23.499 AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS, 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:25.766 I JUST WISH THAT I COULD SELL THE WHOLE WORLD 00:22:25.866 --> 00:22:27.266 ON SIMULTANEOUS READING. 00:22:27.366 --> 00:22:28.199 THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT. 00:22:28.299 --> 00:22:29.799 THE SECRET OF SIMULTANEOUS READING. 00:22:29.899 --> 00:22:31.266 IT'S ONE OF THE CHAPTERS IN THE BOOK, 00:22:31.366 --> 00:22:32.933 SECRETS OF THE SECRET PLACE. 00:22:33.033 --> 00:22:36.199 IT'S THE SECRET OF SIMULTANEOUS READING, 00:22:36.299 --> 00:22:43.533 READING IN FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES OF SCRIPTURE EVERY DAY. 00:22:43.633 --> 00:22:48.532 AND IT PROVIDES FOR INTEREST. 00:22:48.632 --> 00:22:50.433 I JUST FIND MYSELF INTERESTED IN. 00:22:50.533 --> 00:22:53.900 OH, IT'S, THERE'S VARIETY. 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.666 AND SECONDLY, AND I DON'T 00:22:56.766 --> 00:22:58.300 KNOW IF THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED TO YOU, 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:02.766 REBECCA, BUT I WILL FIND THAT WHEN I READ AN OLD 00:23:02.866 --> 00:23:07.633 TESTAMENT READING AND A NEW AND A GOSPEL'S READING, 00:23:07.733 --> 00:23:12.866 SOMETIMES THEY WILL INTERSECT ON A CERTAIN IDEA, 00:23:12.966 --> 00:23:19.033 AND I'M LIKE I JUST READ ABOUT THAT IN DEUTERONOMY. 00:23:19.133 --> 00:23:21.666 AND NOW I MEAN, THAT'S SETS ME ON FIRE. 00:23:21.766 --> 00:23:24.633 THAT'S WHAT PUTS, THAT'S WHAT PUTS FIRE IN MY HEART. 00:23:24.733 --> 00:23:28.599 IS WHEN THE WORD BEGINS TO INFORM THE WORD AND IT 00:23:28.699 --> 00:23:30.932 STARTS TO INTERCONNECT. 00:23:31.032 --> 00:23:33.899 AND I'M LIKE, WOW, 00:23:33.999 --> 00:23:37.432 THIS REALLY IS AND IT JUST LIGHTS MY FIRE. 00:23:37.532 --> 00:23:40.200 REBECCA: YEAH, THAT'S SO GOOD. 00:23:40.300 --> 00:23:41.966 UM, THE OTHER THING 00:23:42.066 --> 00:23:45.899 I WAS GONNA ASK IS FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE 00:23:45.999 --> 00:23:48.933 GONE THROUGH, GOD HAS REALLY GIVEN YOU 00:23:49.033 --> 00:23:53.100 PERSPECTIVE ON HOW THERE'S A PURPOSE IN TRIALS AND HE 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:56.533 DOES NOT SEND TRIALS BECAUSE HE'S CRUEL. 00:23:56.633 --> 00:23:59.000 HE SENDS TRIALS BECAUSE HE LOVES US. 00:23:59.100 --> 00:24:02.799 HE PRUNES THOSE WHO ARE PRODUCING FRUIT 00:24:02.899 --> 00:24:04.266 TO PRODUCE MORE FRUIT. 00:24:04.366 --> 00:24:06.599 CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? 00:24:06.699 --> 00:24:07.900 BOB: WOW. 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:09.666 HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE HERE TODAY? 00:24:09.766 --> 00:24:15.733 I SHOULD HAVE, I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THE CLOCK. 00:24:15.833 --> 00:24:17.966 OH, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH THAT I CAN SAY HERE. 00:24:18.066 --> 00:24:26.433 I'M, I'M JUST, LORD, HELP ME TO FOLLOW YOUR FOCUS. 00:24:26.533 --> 00:24:29.799 OKAY, LET ME START WITH THIS. 00:24:29.899 --> 00:24:35.433 THERE IS A PLACE IN A TOWN CALLED ORACLE, 00:24:35.533 --> 00:24:42.633 ARIZONA, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT OF ARIZONA. 00:24:42.733 --> 00:24:45.399 IT'S CALLED THE BIOSPHERE. 00:24:45.499 --> 00:24:46.166 I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE. 00:24:46.266 --> 00:24:47.899 I'VE ONLY GOOGLED IT. 00:24:47.999 --> 00:24:51.033 THE BIOSPHERE, WHAT THEY DID IS 00:24:51.133 --> 00:24:55.899 THEY BUILT THESE DOMED BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF 00:24:55.999 --> 00:25:01.299 THE WILDERNESS DESERT AND THE IDEA WAS THIS, 00:25:01.399 --> 00:25:07.533 LET'S TRY TO ISOLATE. 00:25:07.633 --> 00:25:11.532 AN ISOLATED PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE 00:25:11.632 --> 00:25:16.900 INSIDE OF THIS BUBBLE, AND EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.566 SURVIVE WILL BE INSIDE THE BUBBLE. 00:25:20.666 --> 00:25:23.832 THEY WILL NEED NOTHING FROM THE EXTERNAL WORLD IN 00:25:23.932 --> 00:25:25.166 ORDER TO SURVIVE. 00:25:25.266 --> 00:25:29.933 SO EVERYTHING THEY NEED IS SELF-PRODUCED INSIDE OF 00:25:30.033 --> 00:25:32.999 THIS SELF-CONTAINED BUBBLE IN THE MIDDLE 00:25:33.099 --> 00:25:35.300 OF THE ARIZONA DESERT. 00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:38.132 AND THE IDEA WAS IF WE CAN SUPPORT 00:25:38.232 --> 00:25:42.899 HUMAN LIFE INSIDE THIS BUBBLE IN THE ARIZONA DESERT, 00:25:42.999 --> 00:25:49.933 MAYBE WE CAN COPY/PASTE IT, PUT IT ON MARS AND SUSTAIN 00:25:50.033 --> 00:25:52.500 HUMAN LIFE ON MARS. 00:25:52.600 --> 00:25:54.266 SO IT WAS THIS 00:25:54.366 --> 00:25:59.200 EXPERIMENTAL SCIENTIFIC, YOU KNOW, 00:25:59.300 --> 00:26:00.899 I THINK SOMEBODY HAD TOO MUCH MONEY. 00:26:00.999 --> 00:26:03.766 IT WAS THIS EXPERIMENT TO SEE IF THEY COULD SUPPORT, 00:26:03.866 --> 00:26:07.499 YOU KNOW, SUPPORT HUMAN LIFE INSIDE THIS BUBBLE. 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.899 AND SO SOMEBODY HAD AN IDEA, 00:26:10.999 --> 00:26:19.233 THEY'RE LIKE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE PLANTED FRUIT TREES 00:26:19.333 --> 00:26:21.766 INSIDE THIS BUBBLE? 00:26:21.866 --> 00:26:24.566 WE COULD GIVE THEM PERFECT LIGHT, 00:26:24.666 --> 00:26:28.533 PERFECT TEMPERATURES, PERFECT WATER, 00:26:28.633 --> 00:26:30.900 PERFECT FERTILIZER. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:39.233 WE COULD GROW FRUIT TREES IN PERFECT CONDITIONS. 00:26:39.333 --> 00:26:44.032 AND THEY SAID, LET'S GO FOR IT. 00:26:44.132 --> 00:26:47.633 SO THEY PLANTED FRUIT TREES IN THIS BIOSPHERE. 00:26:47.733 --> 00:26:48.900 AND SURE ENOUGH, 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.199 THEY PRODUCED A REMARKABLE HARVEST 00:26:53.299 --> 00:26:56.566 WITH JUST ONE PROBLEM. 00:26:56.666 --> 00:27:03.166 THE TREE, THE BRANCHES OF THE TREES KEPT SNAPPING 00:27:03.266 --> 00:27:07.199 UNDER THE WEIGHT OF THE FRUIT. 00:27:07.299 --> 00:27:10.966 BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WIND 00:27:11.066 --> 00:27:13.966 IN THIS ARTIFICIAL ENVIRONMENT. 00:27:14.066 --> 00:27:17.233 DID YOU KNOW THAT TREES NEED WIND? 00:27:17.333 --> 00:27:24.899 TREES NEED WIND TO KEEP THEIR BRANCHES FLEXIBLE. 00:27:24.999 --> 00:27:28.499 SO THAT WHEN THE FRUIT COMES ON THE BRANCHES, 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:35.066 THE BRANCHES WILL FLEX WITH THE FRUIT AND THE FRUIT 00:27:35.166 --> 00:27:36.733 WILL BE PRESERVED. 00:27:36.833 --> 00:27:39.366 BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF WIND, 00:27:39.466 --> 00:27:44.033 THE BRANCHES OF THE TREES BECAME RIGID 00:27:44.133 --> 00:27:48.133 AND INFLEXIBLE AND BRITTLE. 00:27:48.233 --> 00:27:50.200 AND THEN WHEN THE FRUIT CAME 00:27:50.300 --> 00:27:52.399 ON THE BRANCHES, 00:27:52.499 --> 00:27:57.199 THE BRANCHES SNAPPED AND BROKE UNDER 00:27:57.299 --> 00:28:00.066 THE WEIGHT OF THE FRUIT. 00:28:00.166 --> 00:28:05.133 AND HERE'S MY TAKEAWAY, SOMETIMES WE 00:28:05.233 --> 00:28:11.833 ACTUALLY NEED WINDS IN OUR LIVES. 00:28:11.933 --> 00:28:15.500 THERE'S NOT A PERSON LISTENING TO THIS PODCAST 00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:19.400 RIGHT NOW, REBECCA, THAT ENJOYS STORMS. 00:28:19.500 --> 00:28:22.533 WE DON'T WANT STORMS IN OUR LIVES. 00:28:22.633 --> 00:28:25.966 WE DON'T ENJOY HURRICANES. 00:28:26.066 --> 00:28:29.233 WE DON'T ENJOY TORNADOES. 00:28:29.333 --> 00:28:34.133 WE DON'T WANT STORMS IN OUR LIVES. 00:28:34.233 --> 00:28:38.466 BUT SOMETIMES IT'S ACTUALLY THE KINDNESS OF 00:28:38.566 --> 00:28:44.299 GOD TO BRING STORMY WINDS INTO OUR LIVES 00:28:44.399 --> 00:28:47.932 TO GET US FLEXIBLE AGAIN. 00:28:48.032 --> 00:28:55.166 SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THE FRUIT OF OUR NEXT SEASON IN GOD. 00:28:55.266 --> 00:29:01.433 AND ACTUALLY, THE STORM IS NECESSARY. 00:29:01.499 --> 00:29:03.966 WHEN I SAY THIS IN A CHURCH IN FLORIDA, 00:29:04.066 --> 00:29:06.399 THEY THROW ROTTEN TOMATOES AT ME. 00:29:06.499 --> 00:29:09.666 THEY DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT HURRICANES ARE 00:29:09.766 --> 00:29:12.799 NECESSARY IN FLORIDA. 00:29:12.899 --> 00:29:18.366 BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS OUR PLANET NEEDS STORMS. 00:29:18.466 --> 00:29:21.433 I KNOW THAT WE TEND TO LOOK AT THE DESTRUCTIVE 00:29:21.533 --> 00:29:23.232 SIDE OF STORMS. 00:29:23.332 --> 00:29:28.233 BUT THERE ARE ELEMENTS IN STORMS THAT ARE ACTUALLY 00:29:28.333 --> 00:29:31.633 NECESSARY FOR OUR PLANET. 00:29:31.733 --> 00:29:35.933 THEY EQUALIZE THE TEMPERATURES OF OUR PLANET. 00:29:36.033 --> 00:29:38.966 THEY FLUSH OUR PLANET CLEAN. 00:29:39.066 --> 00:29:42.000 STORMS ARE THE TOILET SYSTEM, 00:29:42.100 --> 00:29:45.766 THE FLUSHING SYSTEM OF OUR PLANET. 00:29:45.866 --> 00:29:48.933 AND JUST AS OUR PLANET NEEDS STORMS, 00:29:49.033 --> 00:29:54.833 SO WE ALSO SOMETIMES NEED STORMS IN OUR LIVES. 00:29:54.933 --> 00:29:58.566 I'M REMINDED OF THE FAMOUS PRAYER OF THE WELSH 00:29:58.666 --> 00:30:04.099 REVIVAL BACK OF 1906, IN WALES 1905. 00:30:04.199 --> 00:30:12.000 THE FAMOUS TWO-WORD PRAYER OF THE WELSH REVIVAL. 00:30:12.100 --> 00:30:17.599 BEND ME. 00:30:17.699 --> 00:30:20.666 BEND ME, LORD, THAT I MIGHT BE 00:30:20.766 --> 00:30:28.566 FLEXIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN WHAT YOU ARE WANTING TO DO 00:30:28.666 --> 00:30:30.132 IN THIS HOUR. 00:30:30.232 --> 00:30:35.033 AND SOMETIMES WE ACTUALLY NEED STORMS IN 00:30:35.133 --> 00:30:39.633 OUR LIVES TO MAKE US FLEXIBLE. 00:30:39.733 --> 00:30:45.133 SO THAT WE CAN CARRY THE FRUIT OF OUR SEASON 00:30:45.233 --> 00:30:51.133 FORWARD INTO WHAT GOD WANTS TO DO IN OUR LIVES. 00:30:51.233 --> 00:30:53.632 SOMETIMES STORMS ARE NECESSARY. 00:30:53.732 --> 00:30:55.466 JESUS SAID THIS ABOUT HIS CROSS. 00:30:55.566 --> 00:30:57.066 YOU KNOW, AFTER THE CROSS HE GOES, 00:30:57.166 --> 00:30:58.866 THE CROSS WAS NECESSARY. 00:30:58.966 --> 00:30:59.999 THAT'S THE ONLY THING 00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:02.166 HE SAID ABOUT THE CROSS AFTER HE WAS RESURRECTED. 00:31:02.266 --> 00:31:04.933 HE SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES, IT HAD TO HAPPEN. 00:31:05.033 --> 00:31:07.466 THE CROSS WAS NECESSARY FOR JESUS. 00:31:07.566 --> 00:31:09.833 PETER PICKS UP ON IT IN 1 PETER CHAPTER 1, 00:31:09.933 --> 00:31:12.533 AND HE GOES, ACTUALLY, OUR TRIALS ARE SOMETIMES 00:31:12.633 --> 00:31:14.032 NECESSARY FOR US AS WELL. 00:31:14.132 --> 00:31:16.899 1 PETER 1 VERSES 6 AND 7. 00:31:16.999 --> 00:31:21.566 AND SO IF IT WAS NECESSARY FOR JESUS, PETER GOES, 00:31:21.666 --> 00:31:26.266 SOMETIMES THOSE TRIALS ARE NECESSARY IN OUR LIVES AS WELL, 00:31:26.366 --> 00:31:30.666 BECAUSE THEY CERTIFY THE AUTHENTICITY OF OUR 00:31:30.766 --> 00:31:34.400 FAITH AND THEY MAKE US FLEXIBLE TO 00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:37.033 COOPERATE WITH GOD'S PURPOSES. 00:31:37.133 --> 00:31:38.200 CAN I TELL YOU ANOTHER STORY? 00:31:38.300 --> 00:31:39.899 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:31:39.999 --> 00:31:40.533 BOB: OKAY. 00:31:40.633 --> 00:31:43.566 I'M, I'M ON AN AIRPLANE. 00:31:43.666 --> 00:31:46.166 AND I'M COMING ACROSS THE OCEAN. 00:31:46.266 --> 00:31:47.466 AND WHEN YOU'RE ON 00:31:47.566 --> 00:31:51.533 ONE OF THOSE LONG INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS, 00:31:51.633 --> 00:31:53.733 YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT SCREEN LIKE IS THERE 00:31:53.833 --> 00:31:56.599 ANYTHING ON THIS SCREEN THAT IS WORTHWHILE 00:31:56.699 --> 00:31:59.799 WATCHING AND MOSTLY THE ANSWER IS NO. 00:31:59.899 --> 00:32:06.199 BUT I HAPPENED TO FIND A DOCUMENTARY ON WINEMAKING. 00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:08.533 AND I'M LIKE, I'VE GOT THE TIME. 00:32:08.633 --> 00:32:09.499 REBECCA: YEAH. 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:10.800 BOB: SO I DECIDED TO WATCH THIS 00:32:10.900 --> 00:32:13.166 DOCUMENTARY ON WINEMAKING. 00:32:13.266 --> 00:32:15.466 AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING IN THE 00:32:15.566 --> 00:32:21.166 DOCUMENTARY WAS THEY WERE EXPLAINING 00:32:21.266 --> 00:32:26.066 WHAT PRODUCES A VINTAGE WINE. 00:32:26.166 --> 00:32:27.866 NOW A VINTAGE WINE IN 00:32:27.966 --> 00:32:30.933 MY UNDERSTANDING AND IF I'VE GOT WRONG, STRAIGHTEN 00:32:31.033 --> 00:32:34.566 ME OUT, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, 00:32:34.666 --> 00:32:41.999 A VINTAGE WINE IS A WINE FROM A PARTICULAR SEASON THAT 00:32:42.099 --> 00:32:48.666 BECAUSE OF THE GROWING CONDITIONS OF THAT SEASON, 00:32:48.766 --> 00:32:54.932 IT PRODUCED AN UNCOMMONLY DELIGHTFUL WINE. 00:32:55.032 --> 00:32:57.533 AND WHEN YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE VINTAGE YEARS THAT 00:32:57.633 --> 00:32:59.399 PRODUCES A VINTAGE WINE, 00:32:59.499 --> 00:33:02.200 THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IT FOR YEARS. 00:33:02.300 --> 00:33:07.933 2012, OH, IF YOU CAN FIND YOURSELF A BOTTLE FROM 2012. 00:33:08.033 --> 00:33:10.666 IT WAS A VINTAGE YEAR. 00:33:10.766 --> 00:33:13.666 IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO FIND BECAUSE THERE'S NOT 00:33:13.766 --> 00:33:15.599 VERY MANY OF THEM OUT THERE. 00:33:15.699 --> 00:33:17.866 BUT IF YOU AND YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. 00:33:17.966 --> 00:33:23.133 BUT IF YOU CAN FIND A BOTTLE FROM 2012, 00:33:23.233 --> 00:33:25.833 IT WAS A VINTAGE YEAR. 00:33:25.933 --> 00:33:27.766 SO IN THE DOCUMENTARY, 00:33:27.866 --> 00:33:30.166 THEY ARE EXPLAINING 00:33:30.266 --> 00:33:34.900 WHAT PRODUCES A VINTAGE WINE. 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:36.433 AND I'M A NOVICE 00:33:36.533 --> 00:33:38.500 AND I'M WATCHING THIS DOCUMENTARY AND I'M 00:33:38.600 --> 00:33:39.466 THINKING TO MYSELF, 00:33:39.566 --> 00:33:42.732 I KNOW WHAT PRODUCES A VINTAGE WINE. 00:33:42.832 --> 00:33:44.266 LOTS OF SUN, 00:33:44.366 --> 00:33:51.933 LOTS OF RAIN, LOTS OF WARM TEMPERATURES, VOILA. 00:33:52.033 --> 00:33:54.466 VINTAGE WINE. 00:33:54.566 --> 00:33:57.866 AND IN THE DOCUMENTARY THEY GO, 00:33:57.966 --> 00:34:00.899 IT'S THE OPPOSITE. 00:34:00.999 --> 00:34:05.033 THEY SAID TO GET A VINTAGE WINE, 00:34:05.133 --> 00:34:06.999 YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN 00:34:07.099 --> 00:34:12.500 ADVERSARIAL GROWING SEASON. 00:34:12.600 --> 00:34:15.000 TOO MUCH SUN. 00:34:15.100 --> 00:34:17.033 NOT ENOUGH SUN. 00:34:17.133 --> 00:34:19.500 TOO MUCH RAIN. 00:34:19.600 --> 00:34:21.499 NOT ENOUGH RAIN. 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.500 TOO COLD OF TEMPERATURES. 00:34:24.600 --> 00:34:30.532 ADVERSARIAL CONDITIONS THAT STRESS 00:34:30.632 --> 00:34:37.232 THE VINES AND FORCE THEM TO WORK HARDER. 00:34:37.332 --> 00:34:41.500 AND THEY SAID WHEN A VINE HAS TO WORK HARDER 00:34:41.600 --> 00:34:45.799 TO PRODUCE ITS CROP, 00:34:45.899 --> 00:34:48.966 THAT'S WHERE YOU GET A VINTAGE WINE. 00:34:49.066 --> 00:34:50.399 AND THEY SAID IT LIKE THIS. 00:34:50.499 --> 00:34:52.099 I JUST LOVED THE WISDOM OF THIS. 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:58.833 THEY SAID, YOU WILL NEVER GET A VINTAGE WINE 00:34:58.933 --> 00:35:04.033 FROM AN UNSTRESSED VINE. 00:35:04.133 --> 00:35:08.233 AND THEN THEY GO LIKE THIS, THEY GO 00:35:08.333 --> 00:35:14.966 A FARMER WILL NEVER IRRIGATE HIS VINEYARD 00:35:15.066 --> 00:35:17.932 IN A DROUGHT. 00:35:18.032 --> 00:35:19.832 AND I'M A NOVICE LISTENING TO THIS. 00:35:19.932 --> 00:35:23.932 AND I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, BRO, 00:35:24.032 --> 00:35:27.733 THIS IS EXACTLY THE TIME THAT YOU NEED 00:35:27.833 --> 00:35:29.332 TO IRRIGATE YOUR VINEYARD. 00:35:29.432 --> 00:35:30.766 HELLO? 00:35:30.866 --> 00:35:32.233 THERE'S NO RAIN. 00:35:32.333 --> 00:35:36.832 YOUR VINEYARD IS DYING. 00:35:36.932 --> 00:35:40.099 IF YOU LOVE YOUR VINEYARD, SIR, 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.099 YOU WILL KEEP IT ALIVE. 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.933 IRRIGATE YOUR VINEYARD. 00:35:47.033 --> 00:35:50.433 AND THE FARMER GOES, NO, IF I IRRIGATE 00:35:50.533 --> 00:35:53.766 MY VINEYARD IN THIS DROUGHT, 00:35:53.866 --> 00:35:56.833 THE ROOTS OF THE VINES 00:35:56.933 --> 00:36:03.099 WILL RETURN TO THE SURFACE TO CAPTURE 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.166 THE SURFACE MOISTURE. 00:36:06.266 --> 00:36:08.266 BUT THE FARMER GOES, 00:36:08.366 --> 00:36:14.299 IF I INTENTIONALLY STRESS THE VINES 00:36:14.399 --> 00:36:21.333 BY INTENTIONALLY WITHHOLDING IRRIGATION, 00:36:21.433 --> 00:36:27.966 THOSE VINES HAVE ONLY ONE DIRECTION TO GO. 00:36:28.066 --> 00:36:32.700 UNDER THE DURESS OF DROUGHT, 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:37.833 THE VINES BECOME DESPERATE FOR WATER. 00:36:37.933 --> 00:36:40.933 REBECCA: THAT'S TRUE. 00:36:41.033 --> 00:36:43.166 BOB: LET ME TALK TO YOU FOR A MOMENT 00:36:43.266 --> 00:36:46.933 ABOUT HOLY DESPERATION. 00:36:47.033 --> 00:36:50.800 WHEN GOD SENDS A DROUGHT INTO YOUR LIFE 00:36:50.900 --> 00:36:53.066 AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, 00:36:53.166 --> 00:36:55.366 ALL YOU HAVE ARE QUESTIONS. 00:36:55.466 --> 00:36:58.000 ALL YOU FEEL IS PAIN. 00:36:58.100 --> 00:37:02.133 ALL YOU CAN SEE IS DARKNESS AND GOD'S NOT 00:37:02.233 --> 00:37:03.566 TALKING TO YOU. 00:37:03.666 --> 00:37:05.733 AND HE'S NOT ANSWERING YOUR PRAYERS 00:37:05.833 --> 00:37:09.366 AND YOU'RE IN A SPIRITUAL DROUGHT, 00:37:09.466 --> 00:37:13.832 YOU BECOME DESPERATE TO SURVIVE. 00:37:13.932 --> 00:37:16.933 AND THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO 00:37:17.033 --> 00:37:22.100 WHEN YOU ARE DESPERATE FOR GOD IS TO COME AFTER HIM 00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:25.733 LIKE A DESPERATE DROWNING PERSON. 00:37:25.833 --> 00:37:28.033 AND YOU START TO SINK 00:37:28.133 --> 00:37:31.132 YOUR ROOTS INTO GOD LIKE YOU NEVER HAVE 00:37:31.232 --> 00:37:32.632 IN ALL YOUR LIFE. 00:37:32.732 --> 00:37:37.666 YOU'VE NEVER FASTED LIKE THIS IN ALL YOUR LIFE. 00:37:37.766 --> 00:37:41.099 YOU HAVE NEVER DEVOURED THE WORD OF GOD 00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.200 LIKE THIS IN ALL YOUR LIFE. 00:37:43.300 --> 00:37:46.733 YOU ARE DESPERATE FOR GOD. 00:37:46.833 --> 00:37:53.666 IF GOD WOULD ONLY BE SO KIND TO YOU AS TO 00:37:53.766 --> 00:37:58.900 INTERRUPT YOUR SOFT, MIDDLE, AMERICAN, MEDIOCRE, 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:03.633 LUKEWARM CHRISTIANITY AND LAUNCH YOU 00:38:03.733 --> 00:38:08.399 INTO A DESPERATE PURSUIT OF THE HEART OF GOD. 00:38:08.499 --> 00:38:12.033 THAT'S WHY I CALL IT A HOLY DESPERATION. 00:38:12.133 --> 00:38:15.300 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING WHEN GOD 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.799 DRIES UP THE FALSE FOUNTAINS THAT HAVE FED 00:38:19.899 --> 00:38:25.100 OUR SOULS AND LAUNCHES US INTO A DESPERATE PURSUIT 00:38:25.200 --> 00:38:27.266 OF HIS HEART AND HIS WORD. 00:38:27.366 --> 00:38:30.700 AND SO NOW IN THE DROUGHT, 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.566 THE VINES ARE PUSHING THEIR ROOTS. 00:38:34.666 --> 00:38:37.533 THEY'RE TAKING ALL THE STRENGTH 00:38:37.633 --> 00:38:40.566 THAT REMAINS IN THAT VINE 00:38:40.666 --> 00:38:42.800 AND PUTTING IT INTO THEIR ROOTS, 00:38:42.900 --> 00:38:45.699 PUSHING THEIR ROOTS 00:38:45.799 --> 00:38:51.799 INTO CREVICES AND CRANNIES AND PLACES IN THE EARTH 00:38:51.899 --> 00:38:54.400 THEY'VE NEVER GONE BEFORE. 00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:56.166 THEY ARE NOW, OKAY, 00:38:56.266 --> 00:38:59.200 THIS IS FOR THE TREKKIE FANS IN THE AUDIENCE. 00:38:59.300 --> 00:39:03.466 THOSE ROOTS ARE NOW GOING WHERE NO ROOT 00:39:03.566 --> 00:39:05.533 HAS GONE BEFORE. 00:39:05.633 --> 00:39:05.999 REBECCA: I LOVE IT. 00:39:06.099 --> 00:39:08.466 [ LAUGHTER ] 00:39:08.566 --> 00:39:14.866 BOB: AND NOW, THE ROOTS OF THE VINES ARE TOUCHING PLACES 00:39:14.966 --> 00:39:20.699 IN THE EARTH THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN DEPLETED 00:39:20.799 --> 00:39:25.400 BEFORE BY A ROOT. 00:39:25.500 --> 00:39:27.733 SOIL GETS TIRED. 00:39:27.833 --> 00:39:31.666 SOIL GETS DEPLETED. 00:39:31.766 --> 00:39:34.666 THAT'S WHY WE PUT FERTILIZER IN OUR GARDENS, 00:39:34.766 --> 00:39:40.632 BECAUSE OUR GARDENS GET DEPLETED BY THE CROPS. 00:39:40.732 --> 00:39:46.532 BUT NOW THE ROOTS OF THE VINES ARE GOING TO PLACES 00:39:46.632 --> 00:39:48.132 IN THE EARTH 00:39:48.232 --> 00:39:54.033 NEVER BEFORE DEPLETED BY A ROOT. 00:39:54.133 --> 00:39:59.032 TOUCHING UNTAPPED MINERALS. 00:39:59.132 --> 00:40:05.866 TOUCHING FRESH UNTOUCHED NUTRIENTS. 00:40:05.966 --> 00:40:07.699 AND THEY SAID 00:40:07.799 --> 00:40:10.933 THAT'S WHERE YOU GET A VINTAGE WINE. 00:40:11.033 --> 00:40:13.699 REBECCA: WOW. 00:40:13.799 --> 00:40:22.266 BOB: GOD WILL SOMETIMES BRING A DROUGHT INTO OUR LIVES 00:40:22.366 --> 00:40:29.733 BECAUSE HE WANTS TO CRAFT A VINTAGE WINE 00:40:29.833 --> 00:40:32.066 WITH OUR LOVE. 00:40:32.166 --> 00:40:36.000 IT'S ACTUALLY HIS KINDNESS. 00:40:36.100 --> 00:40:38.333 IT'S HIS AFFECTION. 00:40:38.433 --> 00:40:41.199 HE'S INVESTED IN US. 00:40:41.299 --> 00:40:47.632 AND HE WANTS TO EXTRACT FROM OUR LIVES 00:40:47.732 --> 00:40:49.933 AND FROM OUR LOVE 00:40:50.033 --> 00:40:53.232 A VINTAGE WINE. 00:40:53.332 --> 00:40:55.133 SO IF SOMEBODY OUT THERE WANTS 00:40:55.233 --> 00:40:56.566 TO TWEAK THIS, 00:40:56.666 --> 00:40:59.633 I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A REAL GOOD ONE-LINER. 00:40:59.733 --> 00:41:01.733 HERE IT COMES. 00:41:01.833 --> 00:41:08.566 STRESSED VINES PRODUCE VINTAGE WINES. 00:41:08.666 --> 00:41:11.666 REBECCA: THAT'S GOOD. 00:41:11.766 --> 00:41:14.599 BOB: I'VE JUST INTERPRETED SOMEBODY'S 2024. 00:41:14.699 --> 00:41:17.866 [ LAUGHTER ] 00:41:17.966 --> 00:41:21.166 BOB: AND THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE GOING THAT'S WHAT 00:41:21.266 --> 00:41:24.733 THIS YEAR HAS BEEN ABOUT. 00:41:24.833 --> 00:41:32.266 YEAH, HE LOVED YOU ENOUGH TO ALLOW THAT STORM. 00:41:32.366 --> 00:41:38.666 HE LOVED YOU ENOUGH TO ALLOW THAT DROUGHT. 00:41:38.766 --> 00:41:40.633 YOU'VE ACTUALLY NEEDED THIS DROUGHT. 00:41:40.733 --> 00:41:43.466 YOU'VE NEEDED THIS STORM TO KEEP YOU FLEXIBLE. 00:41:43.566 --> 00:41:47.499 YOU'VE NEEDED THIS DROUGHT SO THAT YOU WOULD PUSH 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.433 YOUR ROOTS DEEPER INTO GOD. 00:41:50.533 --> 00:41:56.466 THIS IS A TIME, MY FRIENDS, TO BE ROOTED 00:41:56.566 --> 00:41:58.500 IN THE WORD OF GOD. 00:41:58.600 --> 00:42:01.533 THIS IS A TIME TO BE ROOTED 00:42:01.633 --> 00:42:03.633 IN THE SPIRIT OF GOD. 00:42:03.733 --> 00:42:07.700 THIS IS A TIME TO PUT OUR ROOTS SO DEEP INTO GOD 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:11.833 BECAUSE THE SCRIPTURE TALKS ABOUT GOING ROOTS DOWN, 00:42:11.933 --> 00:42:14.833 SO THAT THE FRUIT CAN COME UP. 00:42:14.933 --> 00:42:15.966 REBECCA: WOW. 00:42:16.066 --> 00:42:18.732 BOB: PUT YOUR ROOTS DOWN 00:42:18.832 --> 00:42:21.566 AND THEN THE FRUIT WILL COME UP. 00:42:21.666 --> 00:42:24.733 AND YOU WILL BE 00:42:24.833 --> 00:42:31.699 A VINTAGE WINE FOR THE DELIGHT OF YOUR SAVIOR. 00:42:31.799 --> 00:42:33.899 REBECCA: I LOVE THAT. 00:42:33.999 --> 00:42:36.533 WELL, WE'RE OUT OF TIME. 00:42:36.633 --> 00:42:37.533 THIS HAS BEEN GREAT. 00:42:37.633 --> 00:42:38.633 YOU HAVE BEEN AMAZING. 00:42:38.733 --> 00:42:41.266 THANK YOU FOR NOT GIVING UP 00:42:41.366 --> 00:42:43.699 AND FOR POURING YOUR RHEMA THAT 00:42:43.799 --> 00:42:45.466 GOD HAS SHARED TO YOU, 00:42:45.566 --> 00:42:47.700 THE REVELATION INTO YOUR BOOKS. 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.133 WE TAPPED ON TWO OF THEM. 00:42:49.233 --> 00:42:49.800 ONE OF THEM IS 00:42:49.900 --> 00:42:51.699 SOMETIMES WE NEED TRIALS. 00:42:51.799 --> 00:42:54.033 THE OTHER ONE IS SECRETS OF THE SECRET PLACE. 00:42:54.133 --> 00:42:56.233 YOU'VE WRITTEN 31 BOOKS. 00:42:56.333 --> 00:42:59.566 FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO READ YOUR CONTENT, 00:42:59.666 --> 00:43:02.566 WHO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP WITH, 00:43:02.666 --> 00:43:04.433 HOW CAN THEY GET IN CONTACT 00:43:04.533 --> 00:43:07.599 WITH YOUR MINISTRY, WITH YOUR BOOKS? 00:43:07.699 --> 00:43:09.299 BOB: VERY EASY TO DO. 00:43:09.399 --> 00:43:15.300 IF YOU PUNCH IN MY NAME INTO YOUR, INTO GOOGLE, 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:16.766 MY PRIMARY SITE, 00:43:16.866 --> 00:43:18.599 I'VE GOT A SITE, BOBSORGE.COM. 00:43:18.699 --> 00:43:23.799 BUT MY PRIMARY STORE IS OASISHOUSE.COM. 00:43:23.899 --> 00:43:28.033 THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT THE BOOKS AND THAT'S 00:43:28.133 --> 00:43:30.466 WHERE YOU CAN CONTACT ME. 00:43:30.566 --> 00:43:33.799 AND SO ON, SO THAT'S MY MAIN SITE. 00:43:33.899 --> 00:43:39.433 AND I'M ON FACEBOOK AND X AND I'M NOT ON TIKTOK YET. 00:43:39.533 --> 00:43:40.999 MAYBE, MAYBE WE'LL GET THERE. 00:43:41.099 --> 00:43:42.832 REBECCA: YOU'LL BE ON TIKTOK THROUGH THIS. 00:43:42.932 --> 00:43:44.233 SO, HELLO, TIKTOK. 00:43:44.333 --> 00:43:46.400 BOB: HELLO, TIKTOK, ALL RIGHT. 00:43:46.500 --> 00:43:47.399 REBECCA: I LOVE IT. 00:43:47.499 --> 00:43:49.499 WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.166 BOB: I'VE LOVED THIS CHANCE TO VISIT WITH YOU 00:43:52.266 --> 00:43:53.832 AND TO GET TO KNOW YOU, REBECCA. 00:43:53.932 --> 00:43:54.666 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 00:43:54.766 --> 00:43:55.432 REBECCA: IT'S AN HONOR. 00:43:55.532 --> 00:43:56.566 AND THANKS FOR LISTENING TO 00:43:56.666 --> 00:43:57.832 THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.