AND SO WHAT PRESSES ME TO LIVE ON THE EDGE,
HONESTLY, WHAT MOTIVATES ME, IS MY OWN CHILDREN.
WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE COURAGE,
WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE BOLDNESS,
WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE, ALL RIGHT,
MOM AND DAD ARE GOING TO DO THIS THING,
AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW GOD'S GONNA COME THROUGH.
AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU SPELL FAITH?
R-I-S-K.
LET'S DO THIS, YOU KNOW.
AND THEY'RE NERVOUS AND WE'RE LIKE,
IT'S OKAY.
AND THEY SEE GOD COME THROUGH.
THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW SUIT.
THAT'S LEGACY.
IT'S HISTORY WORTH REPEATING.
OKAY. WE KNOW WHO WE HAVE HERE
BECAUSE SHE WAS - SHE'S BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I'M TALKING ABOUT JENNY DONNELLY,
WHO IS MANY THINGS.
SHE WEARS MANY HATS.
SPEAKER, AUTHOR, BUSINESSWOMAN.
BUT FOR THOSE WHO MAYBE DIDN'T CATCH YOUR LAST EPISODE
GIVE US JUST A LITTLE
INFORMATION ON WHO YOU ARE.
OKAY.
SO I LIVE IN PORTLAND, OREGON.
AND I HAVE FIVE KIDS.
I LOVE BEING A MOM.
YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE FIVE KIDS.
I DO.
I AM ALMOST 50.
THIS YEAR, I'LL BE 50.
I FEEL LIKE I'M A KID.
THE MORE I FALL IN LOVE WITH JESUS AND FOLLOW HIM,
I FEEL LIKE YOUTH IS CHASING ME DOWN.
IT'S CRAZY.
NOT JUST IN THE SURFACE WAY,
BUT IN CHILDLIKE FAITH.
AND SO MY HUSBAND AND I,
WE LOVE PRESSING ON THE POSSIBILITIES
OF WHAT GOD CAN DO IN OUR OWN LIVES,
BUT OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.
AND SO WE LOVE TO LIVE A LIFE OF FAITH.
WE LIKE TO LIVE ON THE EDGE.
I LIKE TO WORK.
I'M NOT FANTASIZING ABOUT A DAY THAT I GET
TO LAY ON A BEACH.
I THINK A COUPLE DAYS A YEAR OF DOING THAT IS AMAZING,
BUT I LOVE WORKING.
I LOVE HELPING PEOPLE AND SERVING PEOPLE.
I'M CERTAINLY NOT PERFECT.
BUT MY HUSBAND AND I, EARLY IN OUR MARRIAGE,
BECAME EXTREMELY INTERESTED
IN SERVANT LEADERSHIP
AND HOW WE COULD SERVE PEOPLE
AND DO THAT IN THE REALM OF LEADERSHIP.
LEADERSHIP IS A VERY POPULAR TOPIC.
YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE SECULAR WORLD.
WHAT IS SERVANT LEADERSHIP?
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
YEAH.
SO LEADERSHIP IS THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE SOMEBODY
TO - IT'S JUST INFLUENCE.
BUT THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY OTHERWISE
MIGHT NOT DO, WITHOUT YOU STEPPING IN
AND SHOWING THEM THE WAY.
A LOT OF US THINK OF LEADERSHIP AS A POSITION,
BUT THAT'S THE LOWEST LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP.
IT'S LIKE, OH, THIS IS THE POSITION
I HOLD AT THIS CORPORATION.
OR THIS IS THE POSITION I HOLD AT THE CHURCH.
OR THIS IS THE POSITION
I HOLD IN MY HOUSEHOLD, LIKE MOTHER IS A POSITION.
BUT LEADERSHIP IS WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO
PAVE A WAY FOR SOMEBODY,
EMPOWER THEM TO TAKE STEPS.
TEACH THEM, EQUIP THEM,
SO THAT THEY CAN SOAR.
AND YOU ACTUALLY DO IT
SO THAT THEY CAN SOMEDAY EVEN BE BETTER THAN YOU.
AND SO SERVANT LEADERSHIP ALLOWS OTHER PEOPLE
TO POSSIBLY GET SOMEWHERE THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE
NOT GET IF YOU DIDN'T HELP THEM,
COME UNDERNEATH THEM,
AND PROMOTE THEM, PUSH THEM FORWARD.
AND SO THE CHALLENGE WITH SERVANT LEADERSHIP
IS OUR OWN EGOS.
YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I DO HEAR OF MOTHERS
THAT COMPETE WITH THEIR KIDS.
AND I THINK, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
YEAH.
YOU WANT A PERSON TO DO BETTER THAN YOU,
AND I'VE HEARD IT SAID THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE SUCCESS
WITHOUT A SUCCESSOR;
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY THAT GOES FURTHER AND FARTHER
THAN YOU DO.
BUT A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A VISION
TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE
CLIMB HIGHER THAN US.
AND THAT IS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD AIM FOR.
WE SHOULD AIM FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND US TO DO BETTER
BECAUSE WE'RE IN THEIR LIFE AND WE'RE HELPING THEM.
THAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL.
AND THIS IS A KINGDOM CONCEPT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KINGDOM BUSINESS HERE
BECAUSE THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT OF THIS WORLD.
BECAUSE IN THIS WORLD PEOPLE WHO MAKE
THEMSELVES LEADERS OR WHO GET PUT IN THAT POSITION,
THEY THINK I'M THE BOSS,
YOU DO WHAT I SAY,
AND YOU'RE HERE TO SERVE ME.
BUT IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD,
THE WAY JESUS SAYS IT IS, AND HE WAS THE BEST EXAMPLE,
I COME TO - HE CAME TO SERVE.
THAT'S RIGHT.
HE CAME TO SERVE US.
CAN YOU IMAGINE JESUS THINKING THAT?
LIKE, YOU'LL DO WHAT I SAY,
LIKE, I'M HERE,
YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ORDERS FROM ME.
HE NEVER DID THAT.
IF ANYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT,
AND COULD HAVE DONE IT, IT'S HIM, BUT HE DIDN'T.
HE DIDN'T USE HIS DIVINITY
OR HIS AUTHORITY FOR PEOPLE TO SERVE HIM.
HE CAME TO DO WHAT THE FATHER TOLD HIM TO DO,
AND IN A WAY, TO PUSH US -
THAT'S RIGHT.
FURTHER. AND I MEAN, TO GIVE US SALVATION.
I MEAN, IF HE HAD NOT HUMBLED HIMSELF
INTO THE FORM OF A SERVANT,
I THINK ABOUT PHILIPPIANS,
WHERE PAUL TALKS ABOUT HUMILITY,
AND HOW JESUS IS THE GREATEST EXAMPLE
OF HUMILITY BECAUSE HE HUMBLED HIMSELF,
STRIPPED OFF HIS DIVINITY AND BECAME HUMAN
AND LIVED IN HUMANITY AND SUFFERED FOR US
SO THAT HE COULD PAVE THE WAY OF SALVATION,
TO BE THAT PERFECT SACRIFICE.
SO THAT WE MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
AND HAVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER.
IT'S JUST THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PICTURE.
AND SO HE CALLS US INTO COMMUNION WITH HIM.
AND TO LIVE OUT THAT SAME EXAMPLE OF SERVING
AND OF BUILDING OTHER PEOPLE UP.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THE THING THAT
GETS IN THE WAY IS THE EGO.
AND SO MANY PEOPLE THINK I WANT TO BE LEADER
BECAUSE I WANT TO BE IN CHARGE
AND I WANT TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO,
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT GOD WANTS.
THAT'S RIGHT.
WHAT DOES GOD WANT?
LAY LOW, TO BE HUMBLE, RIGHT.
AND TO SHOW OTHER PEOPLE THE PATH THAT
THEY OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE.
AND, YOU KNOW, JESUS IS OUR PERFECT EXAMPLE.
I MEAN, HE JUST REALLY IS.
BUT I THINK ABOUT MY OWN CHILDREN
IN ORDER FOR THEM - OKAY, LEGACY,
LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT WORD.
LEGACY ACTUALLY MEANS HISTORY WORTH REPEATING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE -
AND PARENTING JUST COMES TO MIND BECAUSE SO MANY OF US
ARE PARENTS.
PARENTING IS LEADERSHIP,
AND WE WANT OUR KIDS TO BE BRAVE.
WE WANT THEM TO BE BOLD.
WE WANT THEM TO GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW,
GO AFTER GOD AND DO ALL THESE THINGS.
AND IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THAT,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO JUST TO TELL SOMEBODY ELSE TO GO DO SOMETHING, GREAT.
LIKE, IF THAT WAS ENOUGH,
THEN WE'D HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW,
BUT LEADERSHIP ISN'T TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO.
IT'S SHOWING THEM THE WAY AND LAYING DOWN YOUR OWN LIFE.
LAYING DOWN YOUR OWN COMFORT ZONE.
AND SO WHAT PRESSES ME TO LIVE ON THE EDGE,
HONESTLY, WHAT MOTIVATES ME, IS MY OWN CHILDREN.
BECAUSE WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE COURAGE,
WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE BOLDNESS,
WHEN WE DEMONSTRATE, ALL RIGHT,
MOM AND DAD ARE GOING TO DO THIS THING
AND WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW GOD'S GONNA COME THROUGH.
AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU SPELL FAITH?
R-I-S-K.
LET'S DO THIS, YOU KNOW.
AND THEY'RE NERVOUS AND WE'RE LIKE, IT'S OKAY.
AND THEY SEE GOD COME THROUGH,
THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW SUIT.
THAT'S LEGACY.
IT'S HISTORY WORTH REPEATING.
SO I REALLY WANT TO CHALLENGE MOTHERS
TO NOT GIVE YOURSELF THIS EXCUSE
TO BE SMALL AND SCARED AND LIMITED,
AND HOPE YOUR CHILDREN LIVE BEYOND THAT MINDSET.
YEAH.
BECAUSE MOST KIDS DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE EXPOSED TO
BY THEIR PARENTS AND THEN HISTORY REPEATS.
SO TO LEAVE A LEGACY,
WE HAVE TO LIVE OUT THE LIFE THAT WE ARE HOPING
OUR CHILDREN WILL LIVE OUT.
SO LIVING BY EXAMPLE.
SO THAT QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING,
WHAT WOULD JESUS WANT US TO DO,
HE'D WANT US TO BE THE EXAMPLE.
HE WAS OUR EXAMPLE.
YEAH.
HE WAS OUR EXAMPLE.
AND SO THEN WE SAY, OKAY,
NOW IT'S OUR TURN, RIGHT.
AND THEN OUR CHILDREN,
THEY WILL LIVE IN A FRAMEWORK OF, OKAY,
YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST NORMAL TO ME.
COURAGE IS NORMAL TO ME.
DON'T MAKE YOUR CHILD BE THE FIRST BORN IN YOUR LINEAGE
TO HAVE COURAGE AND BOLDNESS.
WELL, THIS LIFE, IN COMPARISON TO ETERNITY, IS SO SHORT.
AND IT'S - WE WANT TO MAKE THIS LIFE COUNT
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO STAND BEFORE HIM ONE DAY
AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF OUR LIVES.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN, YOU'RE SO RIGHT,
IT COMPLETELY CHANGES YOUR PERSPECTIVE.
AND YOU HAVE SO MUCH MORE MOTIVATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW
THAT YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN THIS ROLE OF BEING
A MOTHER OVER THEM, AND YOU WANT TO BE THAT EXAMPLE
BECAUSE MORE SOMETIMES IS CAUGHT THAN TAUGHT.
I BELIEVE IN DOING BOTH.
I THINK YOU NEED TO BE INTENTIONAL AND TEACH
OUR CHILDREN, BUT THEY'RE WATCHING YOU
AND MORE - SO MUCH IS CAUGHT.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT RISK, R-I-S-K.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE FROM MY OWN
PERSONAL LIFE, FOR SO LONG
I WAS SO AFRAID OF FAILURE.
BUT THAT FEAR PARALYZED ME
FROM EVER - FROM WALKING INTO SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES,
AND GOD AND MY LOVED ONES IN MY LIFE HAD TO PUSH ME.
AND NOW I'M STARTING TO LEARN, NOW THAT I'M IN MY 30S,
THAT WE NEED TO TAKE RISKS.
WE NEED TO TAKE STEPS OF FAITH, AND THAT FAILURE
MIGHT NOT BE AS BAD AS WE THINK IT IS
BECAUSE FAILURE, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT LIKE
SINNING OR SOMETHING.
I'M TALKING ABOUT TRYING SOMETHING AND MAYBE NOT,
IT NOT WORKING OUT.
EVEN WHEN I STARTED THIS PODCAST
I WAS AFRAID AT FIRST BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID OF FAILURE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M LEARNING, IS THAT FAILURE
IS NOT BAD BECAUSE FAILURE IS HOW YOU LEARN.
AND YOU NEED TO REFRAME THE WAY YOU THINK.
YOU CAN'T LIVE YOUR LIFE
EXPECTING NEVER TO MESS UP AND PUT THAT KIND OF
PRESSURE ON YOURSELF.
IF YOU HAVE THAT, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
SO TALK ABOUT RISK, TALK ABOUT EVEN
WHAT YOU LEARNED ABOUT FAILURE BECAUSE I'M SURE
YOU HAVE MADE MISTAKES ALONG THE WAY, BUT YOU'VE ALLOWED IT
TO LET YOU GO FURTHER INSTEAD OF LET YOU -
HOLD YOU BACK AND GIVE UP.
A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO PRESENT THIS IDEA,
AND THIS IS SOMETHING JUST RECENTLY THAT I AM -
I'VE COME TO THE END OF MY TOLERANCE.
AND THAT IS, DOING CHRISTIANITY WITHOUT GOD.
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH FEAR
IS LIVING OUR LIVES WITHOUT GOD.
BECAUSE IN MY FAMILY GROWING UP,
MY MOM WAS A SINGLE MOM, BUT SHE DID NOT
LET US SAY I CAN'T.
WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT.
WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY I CAN'T.
SHE SAID YOU CAN DO ANYTHING
YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO.
AND ANYTHING THAT YOU PUT YOUR MIND TO
THAT GOD ASKS YOU TO DO, YOU CAN DO.
AND IT WAS AGGRAVATING.
IT WAS AGGRAVATING.
WE WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO HAVE EXCUSES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS INTO THIS LIFE,
I'M MEETING PEOPLE WHO ARE CHRISTIANS,
THEY GO TO CHURCH,
THEY PREACH, THEY, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS A BROAD BRUSH STROKE HERE.
THIS IS A GENERALIZATION.
BUT I'M MEETING TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS
AND THEN I SAY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS?
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING.
OH, YEAH, WE CAN'T, WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO DO THAT.
WE LOOK AT OUR BANK ACCOUNT TO TELL US
WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO.
YOU KNOW, GOD DIDN'T LOOK AT ME AND SAY,
JENNY, CAN YOU DO THIS?
DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES?
OH, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO THIS,
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON ME.
AND THEN YOU AND I TOGETHER ARE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO PULL THIS OFF.
AND FOR SOME REASON WE BECOME SATISFIED
WITH DOING CHRISTIAN THINGS
AND FORGET THAT THIS WHOLE THING
IS BASED ON BEING BELIEVERS.
AND SO THE BIG NEWSFLASH HERE IS, YOU CAN'T.
YEAH, WHATEVER GOD ASKS YOU TO DO, YOU ACTUALLY CAN'T.
BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
THAT FREES YOU UP.
IS WHEN YOU PULL GOD INTO IT,
YOU CAN DO THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE SO IMPRESSED BY.
THEY'RE LIKE, WOW, YOU'RE AMAZING.
YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY THIS.
I BUILT A BUSINESS WHEN I WAS 24 YEARS OLD.
GOD CALLED ME INTO A BUSINESS
AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE,
OH, THAT'S SO CUTE, JENNY, THAT'S SO CUTE.
THAT'S AMAZING.
AND I REMEMBER EVEN GETTING
RIDICULED AND CRITICIZED.
BUT I REMEMBER GOD SAYING JUST GO.
JUST RUN.
FORGIVE 'EM.
KEEP GOING.
IT'S ME. I'M CALLING YOU.
WELL, OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS,
GOD JUST BLEW ON THIS BUSINESS.
WE HAD AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF SUCCESS.
AND THEN WHAT PEOPLE SAID WAS,
OH, YOU KNOW, JENNY, SHE'S SUCH A GO-GETTER.
YEAH, YOU KNOW, IF SHE GOES AFTER IT,
SHE'S GOING TO GET IT.
SO I WAS SILLY AND THEN I WAS A GO-GETTER.
AND I'M THINKING,
WELL, I AM A GO-GETTER, BUT AREN'T YOU?
AREN'T YOU GOING AFTER THE THINGS OF GOD?
AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT?
ACTUALLY LET ME STOP RIGHT HERE.
IT'S FAITH.
AMEN.
IT'S FAITH.
IT'S BELIEVING GOD TO PICK UP WHERE YOU LEAVE OFF.
AND EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT FAITH,
I HAVE A PICTURE IN MY MIND OF JESUS
LACING HIS FINGERS TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE STANDING AT LIKE A
YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, LIKE A FENCE OR SOMETHING AS A KID?
AND YOUR FRIEND COMES AND LACES THEIR FINGERS, RIGHT,
AND THEY HOIST YOU UP OVER THE THING.
YOU CAN'T CLIMB. YOU CAN'T GO OVER.
WHEN I THINK OF FAITH AND GRACE,
THE SUPERNATURAL ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING YOU CAN'T DO,
THAT'S WHAT I THINK OF.
AND SO WHEN GOD INVITES YOU INTO SOMETHING
AND YOU LOOK AT IT AND IT'S TALLER
THAN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT,
IT'S MORE TIME THAN YOU THINK YOU HAVE IN 24 HOURS,
YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.
LIKE GOD DIDN'T CONSULT MY INSTAGRAM
WHEN HE ASKED ME TO DO THIS MILLION WOMEN THING.
YEAH.
HE DIDN'T GO, OH, GOOD, SHE HAS SO MANY FOLLOWERS.
I WAS LIKE, YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T CHECK INSTAGRAM, RIGHT?
SO WE ARE ALWAYS INVITED INTO OUR DESTINY
TO DO WHAT WE CAN'T WITHOUT GOD.
AND SO I'M AT THIS POINT WHERE I'M SUPER INTOLERANT.
I'M FEELING PRETTY SPICY ABOUT IT.
LIKE, OKAY, YOU CAN'T DO IT, RIGHT, OKAY.
BUT WITH GOD, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
THAT'S WHAT MY BIBLE SAYS, WITH GOD.
NOT FOR GOD, WE KNOW THAT HE CAN DO THE IMPOSSIBLE.
IT SAYS WITH GOD.
WITH GOD. YOU WITH GOD.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT GOD DOES.
HE INVITES US INTO SOMETHING, AND WE HAVE TO DEPEND ON HIM,
WHICH WE DON'T LIKE
BECAUSE WE'RE SUPER INDEPENDENT IN AMERICA.
WE'RE SUPER, LIKE, VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE COME UP WITH
ON OUR OWN.
AND SO I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE EVERYBODY LISTENING,
WHAT HAVE YOU SAID NO TO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T,
BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT?
BUT IF YOU LEANED IN ON GOD,
THE SUPERNATURAL GRACE OF GOD,
WHICH IS A PORTION SIZE OF STRENGTH
THAT YOU NEED FOR THE MOMENT,
AND HE WOULD ACTUALLY HOIST YOU UP
OVER THAT THING, AND YOU GET TO THE OTHER SIDE
AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE,
OH, REBECCA, YOU'RE JUST SUCH A GO-GETTER.
OH, YOU KNOW THEM.
YOU KNOW, THE WEISSES,
THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE KNOW DEEP DOWN INSIDE?
IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW,
VULNERABLE WITH THEM, IS THAT GOD,
I PARTNERED WITH GOD.
AND HE'S THE ONE THAT GOT ME UP AND OVER.
I WANT TO SHARE THIS BECAUSE I THINK
A LOT OF YOUR LISTENERS
PROBABLY KNOW THIS.
THIS IS AN ANALOGY.
SO ON INSTAGRAM, IF I POST SOMETHING,
LET'S SAY I HAVE 500 FOLLOWERS.
OKAY, AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL THOUSAND.
BUT I HAVE A POST AND I SAY I WANT TO INVITE REBECCA
TO COLLABORATE WITH ME.
ON YOUR INSTAGRAM, YOU GET AN INVITATION.
DO YOU WANT TO COLLABORATE WITH JENNY?
WELL, IF YOU SAY YES, AND YOU CLICK YES,
THAT MEANS MY POST THAT I MADE
THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO A THOUSAND
WENT TO SEVERAL THOUSAND BECAUSE IT POSTED ON BOTH ACCOUNTS.
YEAH.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH GOD.
SO WHEN GOD INVITED ME INTO SALES WHEN I WAS 24,
I SAID THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM, GOD.
I KNOW THREE PEOPLE AND MY MOM.
MY MOM WILL DEFINITELY SAY YES,
BECAUSE SHE LOVES ME, RIGHT.
SAME.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE.
ALWAYS GO TO YOUR MOM.
AND I SAID SO, GOD, YOU'RE TELLING ME TO RUN AT THIS,
BUT I KNOW FOUR PEOPLE WHO WOULD TRUST ME TODAY
AND AFTER THAT FOUR, I DON'T KNOW
HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
AND HE SAID, WELL, HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS.
I KNOW EVERYBODY.
AND IF YOU WORK WITH ME AND YOU HUMBLE YOURSELF
AND YOU ARE KIND AND YOU SERVE
THE PEOPLE THAT I CARE ABOUT,
I WILL TRUST YOU TO INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU.
AND IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM,
I'LL TRUST YOU WITH MORE PEOPLE.
AND IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THOSE PEOPLE THE BEST YOU CAN,
TO YOUR BEST ABILITY, I'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO MORE PEOPLE.
WELL, WE ENDED UP WITH OVER 65,000 PEOPLE
IN OUR ORGANIZATION.
I KNEW FOUR PEOPLE, REBECCA.
THAT'S CRAZY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUGH?
WHEN YOU INVITE GOD TO COLLABORATE,
AND HE SAYS OKAY, I TRUST YOU,
BECAUSE YOU DO NOT COLLABORATE ON INSTAGRAM WITH PEOPLE
THAT YOU DON'T TRUST, AND YOU LOOK AT THEIR FEED.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO JUST COLLABORATE WITH ANYBODY
BECAUSE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE INTRODUCED
TO THAT PERSON.
EXACTLY.
SO GOD SAYS IF I CAN TRUST YOU WITH THE PEOPLE
THAT I LOVE AND YOU WILL SERVE THEM
AND YOU WON'T MAKE THIS ABOUT YOU,
AND YOU JUST LEAD IN THAT SERVANT LEADERSHIP ROLE,
THEN I WILL TRUST YOU WITH MORE AND MORE PEOPLE.
SO TO ME, I'M LIKE, YAY, GOD'S ASKING ME TO DO SOMETHING
I ACTUALLY CAN'T DO.
LET'S SEE WHAT GOD WILL DO
WHEN I INVITE HIM IN.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T INVITE HIM IN,
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.
YOU'RE JUST GOING TO QUIT BECAUSE YOU'LL STRIVE
IN YOUR OWN STRENGTH.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
ALL THE REASONS YOU CAN'T DO IT SHOW UP.
BUT WHEN WE INVITE GOD AND I'M TALKING
SERIOUSLY INVITE HIM,
NOT I WENT TO MY BIBLE STUDY, I READ MY BIBLE,
I DID MY DEVOTIONAL, I DID -
BECAUSE WE'RE VERY MUCH ACQUAINTED WITH
THE ACTIONS WE TAKE.
WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE ACTIONS WE TAKE.
BUT GOD SAID THE ONLY WAY TO PLEASE ME
IS TO HAVE FAITH.
IT'S FAITH THAT PLEASES GOD.
IT'S NOT GOING TO CHURCH THAT PLEASES GOD.
IT'S WHAT YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU GET THERE.
AND YOU HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF GOD MOVING IN YOUR HEART
AND YOUR MIND.
IT'S NOT GOING TO THE BIBLE STUDY THAT PLEASED HIM.
IT'S WHEN YOU WENT TO THE WORD AND YOU SAID
I WONDER IF I COULD READ THIS FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME
AND SOMETHING, SOMETHING WILL UNLOCK IN MY HEART?
BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DEEPER
AND I'M EXPECTING THIS ONE SCRIPTURE
TO DO SOMETHING IN ME
IT'S NEVER DONE BEFORE.
SEE, THAT'S WHAT PLEASES GOD.
THAT'S WHAT OPENS UP REALMS OF FRUIT
THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AFTER.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S HEBREWS 11:6,
IT SAYS WITHOUT FAITH, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD.
AND THEN IT ALSO SAYS BELIEVE THAT GOD IS A REWARDER
OF THOSE WHO DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.
THAT'S RIGHT.
SO YOU'RE - THAT'S COMPLETELY SCRIPTURAL.
FAITH PLEASES GOD.
AND WHAT I WAS THINKING IS,
PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE ARE LOOKING AT YOU
AND THEY GO, LABEL YOU,
OH, SHE'S JUST A GO-GETTER, BUT THE TRUTH IS
IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE A GO-GETTER.
IT'S YOU'RE A DAUGHTER THAT HAS FAITH IN HER FATHER.
THAT'S IT.
AND THAT YOU TOOK THAT STEP OUT
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS UNKNOWN,
YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HELD.
EVEN WITH THIS BUSINESS
WHEN YOU WERE 24, 25,
YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW IT WAS GOING TO WORK OUT
WITH THE FOUR PEOPLE YOU KNEW.
BUT YOU TRUSTED GOD AND ONE STEP AT A TIME
AS YOU WERE FAITHFUL IN THE LITTLE, GOD GAVE YOU MORE
BECAUSE THOSE WHO ARE FAITHFUL IN THE LITTLE
WILL BE ENTRUSTED WITH MUCH.
AND SO GOD GREW THIS BECAUSE THE THING IS
THAT WHATEVER GOD IS CALLING YOU TO DO,
IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING - IF IT'S SOMETHING
THAT YOU CAN DO IN YOUR OWN STRENGTH,
IT'S NOT GOD.
IT'S NOT.
WHATEVER GOD CALLS YOU TO DO
IS GOING TO BE BEYOND YOUR CAPACITY
AND MUCH FURTHER BEYOND YOUR CAPACITY
BECAUSE GOD, WITH HIM,
YOU CAN DREAM BIG BECAUSE WITH HIM ALL THINGS
ARE POSSIBLE.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, ALSO IN JOHN 15
IT SAYS APART FROM ME.
YOU CAN DO NOTHING.
SO WE CAN ONLY DO IT WITH HIM WORKING IN US,
THROUGH US, OPENING THE DOORS
AND WHEN GOD OPENS A DOOR,
LIKE IT SAYS IN REVELATION,
NO MAN CAN SHUT IT.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
I'VE USED TO ENCOURAGE MYSELF.
IF GOD IS CALLING ME TO SOMETHING,
EVEN WHEN THERE'S OPPOSITION JUST LIKE YOU SAID YOU FACE,
EVEN WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE DOUBTING YOU
AND EVEN HURTFUL STUFF,
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE HURTING YOU
SOMETIMES THAT IS ACTUALLY SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
BECAUSE THE DEVIL OPERATES THROUGH PEOPLE.
THAT'S LIKE A WHOLE NOTHER SUBJECT.
BUT THE THING IS THAT WHEN GOD OPENS A DOOR,
NO MAN, NO ONE CAN SHUT IT,
AND WE CAN WALK THROUGH IN CONFIDENCE AND FAITH,
KNOWING THAT GOD, WITH HIM,
YEAH, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
YEAH, THAT'S SO GOOD.
I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS, I WANT TO HELP SOME PEOPLE
THAT ARE LISTENING TO THIS RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE GOING, OKAY, OKAY, I GET IT.
LIKE, I HAVE GOT TO INVITE GOD INTO MY PROCESS
AND RELY ON HIM TO COME THROUGH IN A WAY
THAT I CAN'T COME THROUGH FOR MYSELF.
HERE'S THE TRIPPING POINT.
MOST PEOPLE ASK HOW, BEFORE THEY GET STARTED.
NOW HOW AM I GOING TO DO THAT?
NOW HOW DOES THIS WORK?
THEY WANT TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK OUT.
BEFORE THEY LEAVE.
IT'S LIKE WANTING ALL THE LIGHTS TO TURN GREEN
BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE DRIVEWAY.
YEAH.
I'VE DONE THIS, SO I CAN RELATE TO IT,
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING -
AND THAT IS A FORM OF SELF-PROTECTION.
IT IS.
AND HERE IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO
TO TURN THIS FROM HOW, TO FAITH,
IS THE HOW, H-O-W, SWAP THOSE LETTERS AROUND,
AND DO W-H-O.
WHO? WHO?
IT'S GOD.
OKAY, IT'S GOD WHEN -
CRAZY STUFF HE'S ASKED ME TO DO.
I'M LIKE IN THIS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT STUFF.
I'M LIKE, GOD, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION
TO HISTORY.
I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION IN GOVERNMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
WHAT ARE WE DOING?
AND HE SAID - I WANTED TO ASK HOW.
WELL, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOBILIZE PEOPLE
ON A LOCAL LEVEL TO GO TO SCHOOL BOARDS?
I'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN TO A SCHOOL BOARD.
LIKE, ARE YOU SURE YOU GOT THE RIGHT PERSON HERE?
AND I WANTED TO ASK HOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO FAIL, RIGHT?
SO HE SAID ALL I NEED YOU TO DO, IS DO THE PART
WHICH IS SAY YES TO ME;
BEGIN TO GATHER PEOPLE AROUND THE SUBJECT
OF MOBILIZING WOMEN AND MEN
IN THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES,
AND THEN I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT.
IT'S LIKE DRIVE UP TO THE NEXT TRAFFIC LIGHT
AND I'LL, YOU KNOW,
WE'LL WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT WHEN WE GET THERE.
THAT'S A BIG JOURNEY.
YEAH. AND AS SOON AS I GOT THERE, GUESS WHAT?
ALL OF A SUDDEN, THESE DOORS OPEN.
I MEET PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, OH, I TEACH PEOPLE
HOW TO CAMPAIGN, I TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT SCHOOL BOARD,
OH, I TRAIN PEOPLE HOW TO GO TALK AT SCHOOL BOARD.
I'M LIKE, WOW, I NEVER KNEW YOU BEFORE,
BUT I DO NOW.
GOD WILL PROVIDE THE HOW
ONCE WE HAVE COMMITTED OURSELVES
TO THE WHO.
IT IS GOD.
THINK ABOUT PETER WALKING ON WATER.
HOW WOULD HAVE NOT GOTTEN HIM OUT OF THE BOAT.
HOW AM I GOING TO WALK ON THIS WATER?
NO.
GOD, IF IT'S YOU, JESUS, IF IT'S YOU,
BID ME TO COME.
HE ATTACHED HIMSELF TO THE WHO
THAT WAS CALLING HIM AND THEY GOT OUT ON WATER.
AND THEN I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE PART
WHERE HE SINKS, RIGHT?
HE GETS LIKE IN THE HOW, RIGHT,
AND THEN JESUS KIND OF REBUKES HIM,
HE CORRECTS HIM.
AND I'M THINKING WHAT ABOUT THOSE GUYS IN THE BOAT?
THEY DIDN'T EVEN GET OUT OF THE BOAT,
AND YOU'RE NOT CORRECTING THEM?
BUT WHEN GOD CORRECTS US, IT'S BECAUSE
WE'RE IN MOTION.
AND CORRECTION IS ACTUALLY
A VERY STRONG FORM OF LOVE.
IT IS. IT'S WHAT HEBREWS SAYS.
SO HE'S LIKE, I COULDN'T CORRECT THEM.
THEY DIDN'T GET OUT OF THE BOAT.
THERE'S NOTHING TO CORRECT, YOU KNOW.
AND SO PETER WALKING ON WATER,
YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE FOR US TO GO,
OH, MAN, IF I GET IN LOGIC MODE BEFORE I GET STARTED,
I'LL NEVER GET OUT OF THIS BOAT.
NO, YOU WON'T.
AND, SEE, I THINK SO MANY - WHAT I LOVE ABOUT YOU, JENNY,
IS I'VE HEARD THESE KIND OF STORIES APPLIED TO MINISTRY,
BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD THEM AS MUCH WITH BUSINESS.
BECAUSE IN THE MINISTRY WORLD WE'RE DOING MINISTRY,
YOU KNOW, AND NOT - YOU KNOW, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE BELIEVERS WHO ARE CALLED
TO BE KINGDOM BUSINESS MEN AND WOMEN,
AND IT'S THE SAME THING.
THEY HAVE TO TAKE A STEP OF FAITH.
AND I THINK ABOUT ABRAHAM.
IT SAYS HE WENT OUT
NOT KNOWING WHERE HE WAS GOING.
HE TOOK THAT STEP OF FAITH.
HE JUST KNEW HE NEEDED TO GO AND GOD OPENED UP
AND HE SHOWED THE WAY.
WHAT DID FAITH LOOK LIKE FOR YOU IN YOUR BUSINESS?
WELL, FAITH FOR US WAS BELIEVING GOD
FOR THINGS THAT BLEW OUR MINDS.
SO I WOULD SIT AND GO, OKAY, GOD,
YOU KNOW, WRITE THE VISION, MAKE IT PLAIN.
WHAT IS THE VISION YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE FOR?
AND HE WOULD STRETCH ME AS FAR AS I COULD BELIEVE, YOU KNOW,
AND I WOULD GO, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY, YOU KNOW.
AND THEN I'D GO, OKAY.
LET ME LET THAT SINK IN.
LET ME BUY INTO THAT.
AGREEMENT UNLOCKS HEAVEN.
WHEN WE DISAGREE WITH GOD,
EVERYTHING STAYS LOCKED UP.
SO I JUST AGREED WITH GOD.
OKAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT,
BUT LET'S GO.
AND THEN WE WOULD GET THERE, AND THEN IT WOULD BE LIKE,
OKAY, GOD, WHAT AM I -
WHAT AM I BELIEVING FOR NOW?
AND HE WOULD JUST TAKE IT FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER.
AND HE WORKED WITH
WHERE HE KNEW HE COULD STRETCH ME, BUT WE DIDN'T
GET TO THAT POINT AND THEN GO,
OKAY. AMEN. WE'RE HERE.
YOU DIDN'T STOP.
YOU DIDN'T THINK LIKE WE'VE ARRIVED.
YOU KEPT GOING.
YEAH. I ATTEMPTED TO.
AT ONE POINT WE HAD THREE KIDS
AND OUR BUSINESS WAS EXTREMELY PROFITABLE.
IT WAS COMING IN PASSIVELY, PASSIVE INCOME.
SO WE GOT RID OF ALL THE BABY GEAR.
WE GOT RID OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS STUFF,
AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, OKAY.
OUR LIFE IS FINALLY THIS WAY AND EVERYTHING'S COMFORTABLE.
AND, BOB AND I WENT ON A DATE TO LOS ANGELES
AND WENT TO A CONFERENCE
AND THEY WERE PREACHING ON PETER ON THE WATER.
AND I WAS ALL SORTS OF MESSED UP.
I WAS LIKE, OH, MAN,
DID YOU FEEL CONVICTED?
OH, A HUNDRED PERCENT. OH, YEAH.
WHAT WERE YOU FEELING?
WELL, WE WENT TO LUNCH AND BOB AND I
WERE TALKING ABOUT,
I SAID I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANOTHER BABY.
AND HE WAS LIKE, OH BOY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE SIX YEARS -
OUR YOUNGEST WAS SIX.
SO YOU HAD BEEN LIKE -
OH, YEAH.
YOU'RE LIKE, WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE DONE, YOU KNOW.
AND PEOPLE HAD -
OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH.
AND I SAID, I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANOTHER BABY.
AND IT WAS LIKE GONNA MESS EVERYTHING UP.
YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE FIT IN THE CAR.
HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN GET IN A RESTAURANT BOOTH.
LIKE, ALL THE THINGS, RIGHT?
NO, THAT'S TRUE.
AND SO, AND HE COMES FROM A FAMILY OF ENGINEERS,
SO THIS IS REALLY MESSING WITH HIM, OKAY?
BUT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.
I'LL NEVER FORGET THE LORD ASKING ME A QUESTION
WHILE WE'RE AT LUNCH.
HE ASKED ME A QUESTION.
HE SAID, JENNY, ARE YOU HAPPIER
BACKED AWAY FROM THE EDGE, LIKE,
OKAY, EVERYTHING'S SETTLED OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO
BELIEVE GOD FOR THIS. OKAY.
OOH, LIKE, THANK YOU, GOD.
NOW WE'RE JUST LIVING IN BLESSING.
WE'RE JUST COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY BLESSING.
AND HE SAID,
ARE YOU - ARE YOU HAPPIER HERE
OR DID YOU REALLY LIKE LIVING WITH
YOUR TOES ON THE EDGE?
WHAT DID YOU SAY?
AND I SAID, I REALLY LIKED LIVING ON THE EDGE.
AND SO I KNEW THAT HAVING OUR DAUGHTER, WHICH WE HAD
TWO MORE KIDS AFTER THAT.
YEAH.
AND I WAS OVER 40.
SO AS A 50-YEAR-OLD,
I HAVE A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD AND A NINE-YEAR-OLD.
AND IT'S BEEN A BLAST BEING AN OLDER MOM.
THEY ARE JUST AMAZING.
IT'S BEEN SO WONDERFUL.
BUT WHEN I WAS IN LABOR WITH EDEN
AND THEY BROKE MY WATER, MY HUSBAND STARTED WEEPING.
AND HE'S JUST NOT THAT TYPE.
HE STARTED WEEPING.
I SAID, ARE YOU OKAY?
I'M IN LABOR, BUT ARE YOU OKAY, YOU KNOW?
AND HE SAID I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW SELFISH
I HAVE BEEN AND SOMETHING CAME OFF OF HIM.
CONTROL BROKE OFF OF HIM.
AND THEN WE BROUGHT HER HOME.
I'M CHANGING HER DIAPER FOR THE FIRST TIME
ON HER LITTLE CHANGING PAD, YOU KNOW.
AND HE LOOKS OVER MY SHOULDER AND HE SAID,
LET'S DO THIS AGAIN.
I'M LIKE, OH MY GOSH, YOU'RE LIKE
A COMPLETELY DIFERENT PERSON.
AND NOW HE - I MEAN IT JUST BROKE HIM.
AND HE SAID I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS TRYING TO
TELL GOD WHAT MY LIFE SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND NOW IT WAS - IT WAS LET'S DO IT, JENNY.
LET'S LIVE ADVENTURE UNTIL WE'RE DEAD.
LET'S JUST LIVE ADVENTURE.
LET'S JUST LIVE ON THE EDGE.
LET'S JUST DO WHATEVER.
AND PEOPLE THINK WE'RE CRAZY
AND THEN THEY THINK WE'RE GO-GETTERS WHEN IT WORKS.
AND I SAY IT'S FAITH.
YEAH.
IT'S GOD, BUT WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THINGS
FOR THE SAKE OF BEING RISK TAKERS.
DON'T DO THAT.
THAT'S NOT VERY SMART.
THAT'S NOT WISE.
WISDOM IS, GOD, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO -
WHAT STEP DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE?
AND HE'LL TELL YOU AND IT'LL MESS WITH YOUR LOGIC.
AND THEN YOU SAY YES ANYWAY, AND YOU GO FOR IT.
SO, I MEAN, I HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE STORY OF
SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENED.
OKAY. SO MY OLDER KIDS LIVE IN ORANGE COUNTY
BECAUSE THEY WENT TO MINISTRY SCHOOL THERE
AND WE'VE HAD TONS OF PROPHETIC WORDS
ABOUT HAVING ASSIGNMENTS IN CALIFORNIA.
AND LOTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS
AND I'VE SAID OKAY GOD, WHEN YOU WANT US TO GET
A RENTAL HOME DOWN THERE OR BUY A HOUSE OR WHATEVER,
JUST TELL US.
AND NOT THAT WE HAVE OUR - BY THE WAY,
MY BANK ACCOUNT DIDN'T TELL ME TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
OKAY, GOD, WHEN IT'S TIME.
AND SO THIS CAME UP JUST THIS LAST MONTH
AND WE FELT LIKE IT WAS TIME.
AND MY TWO OLDER KIDS, THEIR LEASES WERE UP.
SO WE'RE LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THEM INTO OUR HOUSE.
WE'RE GOING TO - HOW ABOUT - WAIT.
WE COULD BE YOUR LANDLORD AND YOU COULD PAY US RENT.
YEAH.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR KIDS CLOSE TO YOU.
YEAH, EXACTLY.
AND SO I'M LIKE, OKAY, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE ONE FOOT THERE
AND ONE FOOT IN OREGON.
BUT IT CAME UP, GOD SHOWED ME A HOUSE.
HE SAID, THAT'S IT, THAT'S THE ONE.
YOU'RE GOING TO RENT THAT HOUSE.
OKAY.
AND THEN I SAID TO MY HUSBAND,
I SAID I DON'T WANT TO PUT FINANCIAL PRESSURE ON YOU,
BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S TIME.
AND THE BANK ACCOUNT DIDN'T SAY IT'S TIME.
OKAY, BUT WE KNOW, WE KNOW THE GIG.
SO MY HUSBAND'S WALKING OUT THE DOOR AND I'M IN PRAYER.
I'M JUST SITTING ON THE COUCH AND HE SAYS,
WELL, YOU PRAY, ASK GOD, AND THEN TEXT ME, AND WE'LL DO
WHATEVER HE SAYS.
I LOVE IT.
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST -
IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE 25 YEARS IN TO OUR MARRIAGE
AND UNDERSTANDING THIS.
SO I GO BEFORE GOD AND I JUST GO NEUTRAL.
WE GO NEUTRAL BEFORE GOD, WE DON'T GO WITH
OUR OPINIONS AND OUR FEARS AND OUR WHATEVER.
WE DON'T GO WITH LIKE,
I HAVE TO HAVE THIS HOUSE.
LIKE, YOU DON'T GO THAT WAY.
AND YOU DON'T GO WITH ALL THE REASONS
WHY IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, LIKE HELLO?
THIS IS ALMIGHTY GOD, WE'RE TALKING TO.
LIKE, COME ON.
SO I JUST GO NEUTRAL AND SAY,
GOD, WHAT DO YOU -
WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO?
AND I JUST HEARD HIM SAY I HAVE THIS FOR YOU.
OKAY.
REBECCA, IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE IN NUMBERS.
AND SO HE PUTS AN APPLICATION IN.
THEY SAY YES TO US.
THE NEXT DAY, GOD INTRODUCES US TO A BUSINESS
THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS COMING,
AND IN THE NEXT 12 DAYS,
EVERY DOLLAR WAS PAID FOR, FIRST AND LAST MONTH'S RENT.
OH, MY GOSH.
THAT IS SO COOL.
THE VERY NEXT DAY.
BUT THIS IS THE PATTERN OF MY LIFE
AS I'M CATCHING ON.
IT'S NOT, GOD, WHEN THE MONEY COMES,
THEN I'LL TITHE.
YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FAITH.
TITHING IS, I NEED THIS FOR X-Y-Z,
BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO GOD ANYWAY, RIGHT.
THIS IS - MY STORY IS NOT UNUSUAL.
IT'S HOW GOD OPERATES.
BUT I WOULD SAY TO ANYBODY LISTENING,
ARE YOU WAITING FOR GOD TO RESOURCE YOU?
AND THEN THAT'S THE ASSURANCE YOU NEED TO SAY YES,
OR IS HE AND HIS CHARACTER
AND WHO HE IS FOR YOU,
IS THAT ENOUGH ASSURANCE?
RIGHT?
CAN YOU TRUST HIM TO BRING THE PARTS AND PIECES
TO THE TABLE?
WE HAD A BUSINESS THAT COLLAPSED UNDERNEATH US,
AND WE, UH, SOLD OUR HOME.
WE MADE IT ALL RIGHT.
AND THEN GOD SAYS, BY THE WAY, NOW THAT YOU DON'T
HAVE AN INCOME,
I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU BUY A $4 MILLION RETREAT CENTER.
OH, MY GOSH.
AND WE WENT AND VISITED IT AND I'M GOING,
GOD, YOU JUST KEEP COMING.
YOU JUST KEEP DOING THIS THING.
BECAUSE EIGHT YEARS EARLIER,
WE BOUGHT 82 ACRES TO BUILD A RETREAT CENTER,
WHEN WE HAD THE MONEY TO BUILD IT.
AND HE TOLD MY HUSBAND AFTER A COUPLE YEARS OF OWNING IT,
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S GOING TO BE LATER.
AND WHEN OUR BUSINESS WENT DOWN
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE AN INCOME COMING IN,
GOD SAID, OKAY, THIS IS A GOOD TIME.
LET'S DO THIS.
LET'S DO THIS RETREAT CENTER THING.
AND IT'S A WHOLE MIRACLE STORY.
I ACTUALLY WROTE ABOUT IT IN MY BOOK CALLED
WAKE UP DEAD.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE GOD WE SERVE.
HE LOVES US STEPPING OUT OF THE BOAT ONTO WATER
BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND IT'S -
AND REMEMBER THAT HE USED THE FOOLISH THINGS
TO CONFOUND THE WISE.
YEAH.
SO ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE FEEL
ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION.
HOPEFULLY UNCOMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO
GET MOVING IN SOME AREAS.
I ACTUALLY AM PROPHETICALLY HEARING
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVEN'T WRITTEN THE BOOK
THAT GOD'S ASKED YOU TO WRITE.
BECAUSE I'M NOT A WRITER, I'M NOT AN AUTHOR.
I'M NOT A THIS, I'M NOT A THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY THIS:
THAT YOU DON'T WRITE BOOKS FOR STRANGERS,
YOU WRITE BOOKS FOR YOUR CHILDREN
BECAUSE YOU NEED TO DOCUMENT
WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN YOUR LIFE.
YOU NEED TO DOCUMENT WHAT'S GOING ON.
YOU NEED TO PUT REVELATION ON PAPER.
YOU NEED TO PUT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN STORIES,
SO THAT A COUPLE GENERATIONS DOWN THE LINE
SHOULD THE LORD TARRY,
THEY HAVE A DOCUMENTATION.
SO EVERY BOOK I'VE WRITTEN HAS BEEN -
I REALLY WANT MY KIDS TO READ THIS.
MAYBE THEY WILL, MAYBE THEY WON'T,
BUT I HAVE DOCUMENTATION FOR MY LEGACY.
AND THEN I PUBLISH IT SO THAT ANYBODY ELSE
CAN READ IT, LIKE YOU CAN GET IN ON IT, TOO.
THAT'S SO GOOD.
SO GET YOURSELF IN LINE WITH THAT
BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE GONE -
I HAVE A PRETTY MESSY OFFICE.
I'M NOT SUPER ORGANIZED.
I JUST HAVE PAPERS AND ALL THESE THINGS.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE MUCH LEFT OF WHAT I DID
TO TEACH AND EMPOWER.
BECAUSE YOUR LEADERSHIP CAN LIVE ON AFTER YOUR LIFETIME,
AND SO DO THAT THROUGH WRITING BOOKS.
I PROPHETICALLY HEAR THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LONG.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A NUMBER ONE BESTSELLER.
STOP TRYING TO PERFORM YOUR WAY THROUGH IT.
JUST PUT IT ON PAPER AND GO FOR IT.
JUST START.
YEAH.
AND JUST DO IT.
I THINK AS YOU BEGIN TO WRITE AND AS YOU BEGIN TO PUBLISH -
THAT'S A GREAT WORD, BY THE WAY -
YOU WILL LEARN ALONG THE WAY AND YOU WILL GET BETTER.
LIKE, I THINK ABOUT THIS PODCAST.
I WAS LAUGHING BECAUSE, MY FORMER PRODUCER,
SHE'S ON ANOTHER SHOW AND WE WERE LAUGHING
LITERALLY THIS MORNING TALKING ABOUT
WHEN WE STARTED THIS PODCAST.
WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WE WERE DOING.
BUT IF I HADN'T JUST STARTED,
I WOULDN'T BE HERE NOW.
COME ON.
SO YOU JUST HAVE TO START.
AND I THINK PEOPLE GET HELD UP IN PERFECTION.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PERFECT.
DO IT WITH EXCELLENCE, BUT JUST START
BECAUSE YOU WILL LEARN ALONG THE WAY.
I THINK ABOUT JOHN PAUL JACKSON,
WHO WAS LIKE A SPIRITUAL MENTOR OF MINE AND MY FAMILY'S,
AND HE WAS DIGGING HIS HEELS IN.
GOD KEPT TELLING HIM, YOU NEED TO DO A SHOW.
YOU NEED TO DO A TV SHOW.
AND HE WAS DIGGING HIS HEELS IN.
AND I THINK ABOUT EVEN MY FATHER,
WHO PASSED AWAY AT 64,
WE ALL THOUGHT HE HAD 20 MORE YEARS ON HIS LIFE.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LIFE WE HAVE.
WE JUST KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS DAY.
AND SO JOHN PAUL, HE WAS DIGGING HIS HEELS IN,
AND GOD, I THINK - I THINK GOD HAD TO SEND LIKE A
REALLY FIRM WORD TO HIM,
LIKE YOU NEED TO START IT NOW,
OR YOU'RE GOING TO MISS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
WELL, HE DID A SHOW AND THEN HE PASSED AWAY.
HE ALSO PASSED AWAY YOUNGER,
I THINK IN HIS 60S.
AND SO IF HE HAD NOT HAD THAT TV SHOW,
I STILL WATCH THAT SHOW TO THIS DAY AND LEARN FROM HIM.
BECAUSE WHERE I WAS WHEN I WAS IN
MY EARLY 20S SPIRITUALLY,
AND WHERE I AM NOW IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLACE.
I'M OPEN NOW TO LEARN SO MUCH MORE BECAUSE
GOD HAS TO GROW AND DEVELOP YOU OVER TIME
AND IT'S JUST LIKE THE SAME THING WITH THE BOOKS.
IF HE HAD NOT DONE THAT SHOW -
THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT REVELATION WOULD HAVE GONE WITH HIM TO HEAVEN
AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE LEFT THAT BEHIND.
AND SO YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST BUILD UP
LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, A LIFE NOW, YOU WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS INSTILLING IN ME,
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LEGACY OF
SPIRITUAL WISDOM, REVELATION.
THERE'S ALSO A LEGACY OF
GENERATIONAL WEALTH, YOU KNOW,
AND I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST FOCUSED ON
MAKING ENOUGH MONEY FOR JUST TO GET THROUGH TODAY
OR MAYBE TO RETIREMENT.
BUT, REALLY, WE WANT TO
SET UP WEALTH TOO - AND SEE PEOPLE GET SO
UNCOMFORTABLE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE CHURCH,
BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
IT'S LIKE IF OUR FATHER IS WHO HE SAYS HE IS,
WHY CAN'T BE GOOD STEWARDS OF MONEY
AND SET UP SOMETHING FOR OUR FAMILIES,
FOR OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN?
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
THAT'S RIGHT. OH, YEAH.
SO LIVING IN PORTLAND,
I GOT TO SEE FRONT ROW, ANTIFA TEAR APART OUR CITY.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW
EVERY BIT OF IT WAS FUNDED.
YEAH.
EVIL AGENDAS HAVE TO BE FUNDED.
KINGDOM AGENDAS HAVE TO BE FUNDED.
THE KINGDOM NEEDS FUNDED.
I ASKED GOD, WOULD I BE A TRUSTWORTHY BANKER
OF YOUR MONEY, A STEWARD?
AND IF I AM, TEST - LIKE, GIVE IT TO ME
AND LET'S SEE HOW I DO WITH IT.
BECAUSE LIKE WE DO WITH ONE DOLLAR
IS WHAT WE'LL DO WITH, YOU KNOW, A MILLION.
BUT, YEAH, GOD, GIVE ME A CHANCE AT THIS
BECAUSE I WANT TO FUND YOUR KINGDOM.
THERE'S JUST SOMETHING IN ME.
I REMEMBER BEING, YOU KNOW, 28 YEARS OLD
GETTING TO THIS NEW CHURCH,
AND I WAS ASKING ONE OF THE PASTORS, FEMALES,
AND THEY - YOU KNOW, I WAS IN THE NURSERY.
AND I LOVE - THE NURSERY IS GREAT.
I LOVE THE KIDS.
BUT I FELT LIKE I WASN'T ACTUALLY VERY GOOD AT IT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS KID CAME IN HAPPY
AND I'M HOLDING THEM AND THEY'RE CRYING.
LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, YOU KNOW?
AND I HAD - I DIDN'T HAVE KIDS UNTIL I WAS 28.
SO I DIDN'T HAVE THIS LIKE, LITTLE KID THING VIBE GOING.
BUT I ASKED HER, I SAID, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
I DIDN'T GROW UP IN THE CHURCH, REBECCA,
SO I HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS, MID-20S.
AND I SAID, OKAY, SO I KNOW THAT AS A WOMAN
I'M BEING INVITED INTO THE NURSERY, WHICH IS GREAT,
AND I'M SO HAPPY TO SERVE THERE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH.
LIKE, I REALLY LIKE TO MAKE MONEY AND I REALLY LIKE
TO GIVE IT AWAY.
IS THAT VALUABLE HERE?
LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW.
IS THAT SOMETHING LIKE -
THEY'D BE LIKE, JENNY, DO THAT,
LIKE DO I HAVE PERMISSION
TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT,
OR AM I MORE VALUABLE - AND I WASN'T SAYING IT NASTY.
I LITERALLY HAD THE LEGIT QUESTION.
YEAH, BECAUSE THIS WAS ALL NEW TO YOU.
BECAUSE WHAT CAME EASY FOR ME
WAS BUILDING COMPANIES AND BUSINESSES
THAT GIFTING THAT GOD GAVE YOU.
YEAH, AND THEN GIVING IT AWAY.
YEAH, LIKE GIVING IT.
I MEAN, IT WAS SO FUN, RIGHT, AND I FELT -
AND I WAS GOOD AT IT.
AND SO I WAS LIKE, CAN I DO THAT, TOO?
YOU KNOW, SHE GOES,
OH, JENNY, THAT'S SO VALUABLE IN THE CHURCH.
THAT'S SO VALUABLE.
OH, IT IS, GOOD.
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, YOU KNOW,
IF YOU'RE A CLERGY OR -
YOU KNOW 1% OF CHRISTIANS ARE CLERGY.
SO 99% OF BELIEVERS ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW,
WE DON'T NEED TO ASPIRE NECESSARILY
UNLESS GOD CALLS YOU TO BE CLERGY.
YOU KNOW THE OTHER DAY, REBECCA, I WAS IN
SOMEBODY'S HOME FOR BUSINESS, AND WE'RE ALL
STANDING AROUND AFTERWARDS TALKING.
AND WE WERE AT THE KITCHEN SINK.
AND I ASKED THIS QUESTION OF THIS GIRL,
AND SHE HAD JUST GIVEN HER HEART TO JESUS
NOT TOO LONG AGO, BUT SHE BEGINS WEEPING AND I SAID,
TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SHE SAID THAT SHE CAME OUT OF THE OCCULT.
HER MOTHER WAS A WITCH AND HER OLDEST DAUGHTER
WAS IN LEGAL CUSTODY OF HER MOTHER,
AND SHE WAS BEING GROOMED TO BE A WITCH.
AND SHE WAS CRYING AND SHE WAS LIKE, I DON'T -
YOU KNOW, AND I AND SOME OTHER GIRLS ARE TALKING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS BUSINESS AND I SAID,
LET'S ALL GRAB HANDS.
WE'RE GOING TO PRAY RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE GOING TO
DEAL WITH THIS RIGHT NOW IN THE COURTS OF HEAVEN,
AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE BLOOD OF JESUS
AND WE'RE GOING TO - WE'RE GOING TO RIGHT NOW AGREE
BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS WHERE TWO OR MORE AGREE ON ANYTHING,
IT WILL BE DONE.
ARE YOU READY FOR THIS TO BE DONE?
AND WE GRAB HANDS.
SEE, I DON'T SEE MYSELF AS I'M JUST GOING TO GO MAKE MONEY
YAY,FOR THE KINGDOM.
THAT'S COOL.
YEAH.
BUT I'M A MISSIONARY.
I'M A MISSIONARY IN THE MARKETPLACE.
I'M NOT JUST A MISSIONARY
IF I GO TO A THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY OR OVERSEAS.
I'M A MISSIONARY RIGHT HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
ACTUALLY CITIZENS OF THE EARTH.
WE'RE CITIZENS OF HEAVEN, AND WE'RE AMBASSADORS HERE.
WE GOT PARACHUTED THROUGH OUR MOTHER'S WOMB
AND WE MADE IT ABOUT OURSELVES FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
YEAH.
AND THEN GOD SAYS OH, BY THE WAY, YOU'RE HERE
BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THE KINGDOM OF GOD
TO THIS PLACE AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE EARNING
INCREDIBLE WEALTH IN THE WORLD THAT DON'T KNOW JESUS
AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT CHRISTIANS
WHO SAY I CAN'T.
OH, YEAH, I CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
OH, WE CAN'T COME.
OH, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
AND THEY'RE THINKING,
WHY WOULD I WANT TO SERVE YOUR GOD?
IS HE THE GOD OF LIKE, POOR?
IS HE THE GOD OF LIKE, YOU CAN'T?
LIKE, WE SHOULD LITERALLY BE BLOWING PEOPLE'S MINDS.
NOT JUST BY OUR WEALTH, BUT OUR FRUIT.
BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE WEALTH AND NOT FRUIT.
BUT HAVING FRUIT,
WE SHOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE GO,
HOW DID SHE COME UP WITH THAT IDEA?
WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT LIVING WITHIN US.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK ABOUT.
GOD DWELLS WITHIN US, LIKE THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS.
HE CAN GIVE US WISDOM FROM HEAVEN.
HE CAN GIVE US CREATIVE IDEAS THAT BRING BREAKTHROUGH.
IT'S JUST ARE WE TAPPING INTO HIM AND ARE WE -
NOT JUST ARE WE SAYING - ARE WE TAPPING INTO HIM,
BUT ARE WE WILLING TO SPREAD HIS KINGDOM
AND NOT OUR OWN AGENDA?
THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE I THINK
PEOPLE GET SCARED AND I THINK PEOPLE -
I THINK EVEN BELIEVERS,
THEY WANT TO SERVE THEMSELVES.
THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE HIM.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THINGS GET CAUGHT UP.
BUT WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THAT STORY ABOUT THE LADY
WHOSE, YOU KNOW, DAUGHTER WAS BEING HELD BY
THE MOTHER TRYING TO GROOM HER INTO A WITCH,
IS THAT GOD - WHEN YOU ARE IN BUSINESS,
THERE ARE PEOPLE CALLED TO MINISTRY.
THERE'S PEOPLE CALLED BUSINESS.
PEOPLE CALLED TO BOTH,
BUT WHATEVER YOU DO, LIKE YOU SAID,
YOU'RE AN AMBASSADOR.
AND WHEN YOU ARE IN BUSINESS AND YOU'RE OBEYING GOD,
GOD IS GOING TO OPEN UP DOORS
AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO PLACES
THAT A CHURCH WOULD NOT TAKE YOU.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO REACH PEOPLE
THAT BEING IN A MINISTRY -
OUTSIDE THE WALLS.
EXACTLY. AND THAT'S ANOTHER WHOLE
ASPECT OF IT.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE NOT JUST
MAKING WEALTH TO SOW INTO MINISTRIES
AND TO PASS DOWN TO YOUR CHILDREN,
BUT YOU'RE ALSO SHOWING UP IN THESE PLACES
WHERE THESE PEOPLE WOULD NEVER HEAR
THE GOSPEL ANY OTHER WAY.
OKAY, SO LET'S TAKE THIS TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
SO, WHEN WE WATCHED THE GRAMMYS AND SAW
A SATANIC WORSHIP SESSION, OR THE SUPERBOWL STUFF
OR WHATEVER, RIGHT.
WE SEE THIS ON TV AND WE'RE LIKE,
AHHHHHH, YOU KNOW, THE OLYMPICS, ALL THESE.
IF AS CHRISTIANS WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT
HE WHO IS IN ME IS GREATER THAN HE
WHO IS IN THE WORLD, AND WE'RE LIKE,
OH, I'M NOT GOING THERE,
OH, I CAN'T GO INTO THAT BUSINESS,
I CAN'T DO THIS,
I CAN'T GO INTO HOLLYWOOD,
I CAN'T GO INTO ENTERTAINMENT.
I CAN'T - YOU KNOW, THIS COMPANY,
THEY'RE NOT A CHRISTIAN COMPANY.
SO I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GO INTO THIS.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE LEFT
THE SEATS OF INFLUENCE BECAUSE THERE'S A TABLE
MAYBE THIS SIZE, OF A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT DECIDE
TO PUT A SATANIC WORSHIP SESSION AT THE GRAMMYS.
ALL YOU NEED IS ONE PERSON
WHO HAS THE FEAR OF THE LORD AND THE WISDOM
TO COME IN AND SAY,
HEY, GUYS, WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA?
AND THEY GET THIS DOWNLOAD FROM HEAVEN.
THEY'RE NOT COMING GOING,
I'M A CHRISTIAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS SATANIC THING.
THEY'RE COMING AND GOING.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS, GUYS?
AND THEY HAVE THIS DOWNLOAD FROM GOD
AND THEY'RE UNDERCOVER, NOT THAT YOU'RE NOT PROUD
OF YOUR FAITH BECAUSE EVERYBODY WILL KNOW
YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, BUT YOU DON'T COME
WITH YOUR CHRISTIANITY.
YOU COME WITH A HEAVENLY IDEA THAT BLOWS
EVERYBODY'S MINDS AND YOU'RE LIKE
WHAT IF WE DID THIS?
WHAT IF WE DID ANGELS?
WHAT IF WE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND YOU BLOW THEIR MINDS AT THE TABLE AND THEY'RE LIKE,
YEAH, THAT'S SO MUCH -
WOW, THAT'S COOL.
YOU KNOW, AND IF WE DON'T ALLOW OURSELVES TO GO INTO
THE PROMISED LAND WHERE THERE'S GIANTS,
GIANTS, RIGHT.
OH, THERE'S GIANTS, I CAN'T GO THERE.
THEY'RE OCCUPYING THE LAND.
YEAH, THEY ARE OCCUPYING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN
AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TERRITORY AND WE'RE GOING
TO TOPPLE THESE MARKETS.
WE'RE GOING TO TOPPLE THE MARKETPLACE.
YOU KNOW, AND SO PEOPLE ARE LIKE,
OH, JENNY, I CAN'T DO THAT, I CAN'T, I CAN'T,
I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I CAN'T.
I'M LIKE, WELL, THEN YOU BETTER TAKE THOSE NIKES OFF YOUR FEET.
YEAH.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE GODDESS -THAT'S A GODDESS.
THAT CHECKMARK, THAT'S A WHOLE GODDESS, YOU KNOW.
OH, THAT PHONE, THAT IPHONE,
YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW.
BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE I CAN'T GO,
BUT GOD IS SAYING I'M SENDING MY PEOPLE
INTO THE TOP, THE DARK PLACES,
WHICH IS THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS.
THERE'S SPHERES OF CULTURE AND IF YOU'VE EVER WONDERED
WHERE THE GATES OF HELL ARE,
IT'S AT THE TOP.
GOD WANTS US TO SUCCEED, TO HAVE FRUIT,
BECAUSE WE HAVE INFLUENCE.
PEOPLE GO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT HER AND HER JESUS,
BUT MAN, SHE ALWAYS BRINGS THIS,
OR SHE HAS THIS IDEA.
OR SHE'S ALWAYS SO KIND TO ME.
OR, YOU KNOW, SHE HELPED MY FAMILY WHEN WE WERE THIS,
OR, YOU KNOW, SHE PAID FOR MY DINNER OR -
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
LIKE IF WE'RE THE ONES, I CAN'T, I CAN'T,
AND SO LIMITED AND WE'RE NOT BLESSING THE WORLD,
WE HAVE NO INFLUENCE.
SO SUCCESS IN GOD IS GETTING TO THE TOP PLACES
WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SAY IN HOW THINGS SHAKE OUT
ON THE EARTH.
BECAUSE WHY NOT?
YOU KNOW, I JUST READ THIS THE OTHER DAY IN MATTHEW.
IT SAID WHEN YOU GO OUT,
THIS IS JESUS SPEAKING TO THE DISCIPLES,
HE SAYS WHEN YOU GO OUT AND PREACH THE GOSPEL,
HE SAID SOME OF YOU WILL END UP IN PRISON.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY.
I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU.
BUT I WILL BRING YOU TO THOSE PLACES
FOR YOU TO REACH PEOPLE.
HE LITERALLY SAYS THAT.
HE SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO PLACES
SO THAT YOU CAN BE A WITNESS EVEN THERE.
WE THINK ABOUT PAUL WHO'S STOOD BEFORE LIKE
HEROD THE AGRIPPA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
HE WAS SOME HIGH GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL.
PAUL WAS ARRESTED, BUT HE STOOD BEFORE THESE
HIGH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND HE PREACHED THE GOSPEL.
SO GOD CAN TAKE US INTO THESE PLACES TO BRING CHANGE
FOR HIS KINGDOM, BECAUSE THIS IS THE THING.
BECAUSE THIS IS THE BALANCE HERE.
YOU'RE NOT SAYING COMPROMISE YOUR MORALS, BECAUSE WE SEE
PEOPLE SOMETIMES IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD,
THEY DO GO INTO THESE PLACES AND THEY DO COMPROMISE.
IT'S NOT THAT.
IT'S THAT WE GO IN BEARING THE IMAGE THAT GOD
HAS PUT IN US, SHINING THE LIGHT OF JESUS,
NOT COMPROMISING, BUT NOT BEING AFRAID AND SAYING
I'M NOT GOING TO GO IN, AND I'M NOT GOING TO INFLUENCE.
THE BIBLE SAYS IF YOU PUT A BASKET OVER A LIGHT ON A HILL,
NO ONE'S GOING TO SEE IT.
YOU GOTTA LIFT THAT BASKET OFF.
YOU GOTTA LET THAT LIGHT SHINE.
YOU CAN'T HIDE.
THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO PLAY IT SAFE.
IT'S THE TIME TO GO FORTH BOLDLY.
AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMPROMISE WHO WE ARE,
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD BACK.
WE'RE GOING TO BRING CHRIST INTO ALL THE PLACES
OF INFLUENCE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE THE GOSPEL NEEDS
TO BE HEARD, THE KINGDOM NEEDS TO BE SPREAD,
AND SO THAT'S THE BALANCE WITH THAT.
WELL, WE GOT IN TROUBLE
THESE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHEN WE CAME AWAY
FROM CULTURE AND WE KIND OF WENT,
OH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IN THAT, WE'RE JUST GOING
TO STAY OVER HERE IN THE CHURCH.
OKAY.
SEE, THESE -
THAT'S WHAT THE DEVIL WANTS YOU TO DO.
YEAH.
ISHTAR, MOLOCH, BAAL, ALL THIS STUFF,
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOREVER.
HOW COME IN AMERICA
IT HAS EXPLODED AND EVIL DEEDS AND THINGS
ARE HAPPENING?
BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT LIGHT IN THOSE SPACES,
THEY OCCUPY.
OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. I TALKED TO JONATHAN CAHN ABOUT THIS.
JESUS, THE FIRST STEP WAS PUSHING
JESUS OUT OF EVERYTHING.
YOU PUSH HIM OUT OF SCHOOL
ALL IN THE NAME OF TOLERANCE.
WE HAVE JESUS IN US.
EXACTLY.
SO IF WE DON'T GO IN -
SO THAT WAS - THAT WAS THE EXACT FORMULA.
IT WAS LIKE PUSH OUT OF EVERYTHING,
SCHOOLS, OUT OF CURRICULUM,
ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF
IN THE NAME OF TOLERANCE.
BUT WHEN YOU PUSH GOD OUT AND IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE,
IF YOU CLEAN A HOUSE AND YOU DON'T FILL IT,
SEVEN MORE SPIRITS WILL COME IN.
BECAUSE IF GOD ISN'T OCCUPYING THAT SPACE,
THEN THE ENEMY'S GOING TO COME IN.
AND THEN I JUST REMEMBER THE OTHER THING
I WAS THINKING ABOUT AS YOU WERE TALKING.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, DANIEL, HE WAS UNDER -
WAS HE UNDER NEBUCHADNEZZAR?
I THINK SO. AN EVIL KING.
EVIL KING OF BABYLON.
BUT HE SERVES NEBUCHADNEZZAR AND GOD USED HIM
BECAUSE OF THE ANOINTING ON HIS LIFE,
DANIEL WAS ABLE TO AFFECT CHANGE IN AN EVIL KINGDOM
UNDER AN EVIL KING.
BUT DANIEL ALWAYS REMAINED LOYAL TO GOD
AND HE NEVER COMPROMISED.
HE KEPT PRAYING EVEN WHEN THEY PASSED THE LAW SAYING
IF YOU PRAY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THROWN INTO THE LION'S DEN.
SO WE CAN GO INTO THESE PLACES THAT ARE EVIL,
BRING INFLUENCE, BRING CHANGE, SHINE THE LIGHT OF JESUS,
AND NOT COMPROMISE AND GOD'S KINGDOM WILL SPREAD.
SO THERE'S BIBLICAL EVIDENCE OF THAT
AND THERE'S ALSO BIBLICAL EVIDENCE OF HOW PEOPLE
IN THE BIBLE HAVING GREAT WEALTH AND GOD USING THAT
GREAT WEALTH TO AFFECT CHANGE.
I THINK ABOUT ABRAHAM.
I THINK ABOUT SOLOMON.
I THINK ABOUT WHO ELSE?
OH, UM, AQUILA AND PRISCILLA.
THEY HELPED FUND PAUL'S MINISTRY.
GOD USES BUSINESSMEN AND WOMEN TO AFFECT CHANGE,
AND SO WE CANNOT BE LIMITED.
AND THIS WILL RUFFLE PEOPLE'S FEATHERS
BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO
SIT ON THE SIDELINES AND CRITICIZE.
BUT IF THAT'S ALL YOU'RE EVER GOING TO DO,
YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING.
THAT'S RIGHT.
AND YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT TO GOD FOR THAT.
SO I USUALLY FEEL BAD FOR PEOPLE WHO SIT IN THE ARM -
ARMCHAIR QUARTERBACK POSITION AND JUST ANALYZE
AND CRITICIZE BECAUSE I MEAN IT'S A SAD WAY TO LIVE.
AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING IT THIS WAY.
YEAH.
BECAUSE WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA AND YOU CAN
SIT DOWN AND JUDGE EVERYONE AND GOD SAID,
WE ARE NOT TO JUDGE.
YEAH. AND WE HAVE TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT.
THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M LIKE, OH, BOY.
YEAH, THERE'S A PARABLE ABOUT THAT.
GOD HAS GIVEN TO EACH OF US A CERTAIN AMOUNT
AND WE KNOW ABOUT THE ONE WHO HID THAT SEED.
THE PARABLE -
NOT THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER, THE TALENTS.
YES, ONE GOT TEN.
ONE GOT FIVE.
I THINK ONE GOT ONE.
YEAH.
AND HE BURIED IT AND HID IT AND DID NOTHING WITH IT.
AND WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PERSON
IN THAT PARABLE.
IT WAS NOT GOOD FOR HIM.
SO WE HAVE TO STEWARD WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN US.
STOP FOCUSING ON EVERYBODY ELSE
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND FOCUS ON WHAT GOD
HAS GIVEN TO YOU AND START DOING WHAT
HE'S CALLED YOU TO DO.
I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS FAITH CONCEPT
AND I WANT TO PRESENT THIS TO EVERYBODY.
GOD MADE TREES, RIGHT.
HE NEVER MADE A TOOTHPICK.
HE NEVER MADE A PIECE OF PAPER.
HE NEVER MADE A DRESSER.
HE NEVER MADE A CHAIR.
HE MADE TREES.
WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE GOD IS ASKING YOU TO GO,
YOU HAVE TO LIVE BY FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT.
I WANT TO CHALLENGE EVERYBODY LISTENING,
WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIFE, WHEN GOD PUTS THINGS BEFORE YOU,
WHAT DO YOU SEE BEYOND WHAT HE'S PROVIDED?
BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE, IF YOU SHOW THEM A TREE,
THEY'RE LIKE, OH, IT'S A TREE,
THAT'S ALL IT WILL EVER BE.
BUT I WANT TO SPEAK CREATIVE INNOVATION
OVER THE PEOPLE LISTENING TODAY.
CREATIVE INNOVATION.
CREATIVE INNOVATION,
YOU LOOK AT THE PROVERBS 31 WOMAN
AND WHAT SHE WAS DOING AND WHAT SHE MADE,
YOU KNOW, SHE MADE THE BED COVERS FOR HER FAMILY.
SHE DRESSED HER CHILDREN IN BEAUTIFUL CLOTHING AND LINEN.
AND BECAUSE SHE WAS TAKING WHAT GOD MADE
AND MAKING IT INTO SOMETHING TO PROVIDE AND
SERVE HER FAMILY.
AND SO GOD, HE'LL PRESENT TO US IN RAW FORM
AN INVITATION TO CREATIVELY INNOVATE FROM THAT PLACE.
AND SO I JUST FEEL THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO
PROPHETICALLY SPEAK OVER
PEOPLE LISTENING RIGHT NOW THAT WOMEN ARE
INCREDIBLY GOOD AT IMAGINING
WHAT COULD BE OUT OF SOMETHING
THAT'S IN ITS RAW FORM.
SO CREATIVE INNOVATION.
I WANT TO SPEAK THAT AND DECREE THAT OVER THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE LISTENING, AND THAT'S A LOT OF WOMEN,
BUT THERE'S MEN, TOO.
CREATIVE INNOVATION.
WHAT HAS GOD PUT IN YOUR HOUSE?
WHAT HAS HE PUT IN YOUR HANDS?
IF YOU SAT DOWN AND JUST GOT WITH THE LORD,
WHAT COULD HE SHOW YOU IT COULD BECOME?
CAN THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT I KNEW BECOME TEN?
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING HE SAID.
HE SAID I'M GOING TO MAKE FOUR BECOME TEN.
JUST FOCUS ON TEN NOW.
AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY.
THAT'S SIX MORE PEOPLE THAN I REALLY HAVE
A RELATIONSHIP WITH, GOD.
SIT DOWN AND SEE HOW GOD WOULD WANT TO
FORCE MULTIPLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND
AND SEE BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE, AND LIVE BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE,
AND LIVE BY FAITH IN JESUS' NAME.
THAT IS AN AMAZING WORD ABOUT CREATIVE INNOVATION.
JENNY, I JUST WANT YOU TO PRAY FOR EVERYBODY
WHO'S LISTENING TO THIS,
AND THAT'S STIRRING SOMETHING IN THEIR SPIRIT.
CAN YOU DO THAT?
ABSOLUTELY.
FATHER GOD, FOR EVERY PERSON LISTENING TO THIS RIGHT NOW,
WHETHER THEY'RE IN THEIR CAR, THEY'RE GETTING READY,
THEY'RE DOING DISHES, WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING
RIGHT NOW, GOD, I ASK YOU, LORD,
THAT YOU WOULD SEND ANGELS TO MINISTER TO THEM
NEW PATHS, NEW TERRITORY,
INNOVATION, CREATIVE INNOVATION, GOD.
AND THEY BEGIN TO SEE THE THINGS THAT ARE RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSE
AS POSSIBILITY, NEVER LIMITATION.
LORD, I'M ASKING YOU TO GIVE THEM EYES OF FAITH
THAT THEIR INSIDE EYES, THE EYES OF THEIR IMAGINATION,
THAT THEY WOULD BEGIN TO SEE BEYOND WHAT IS
AND LOOK INTO HEAVEN AND SEE WHAT COULD BE.
GOD, WOULD YOU FLIP AROUND THE EYES OF HOPELESSNESS,
THE EYES OF LIMITATION, THE EYES OF CONTAINMENT,
AND, LORD, WOULD YOU JUST ROTATE OUR SCENE
INTO ANOTHER REALM
WHERE YOU HAVE INNOVATION, INVENTION,
NEW THINGS, NEW BOOKS.
I SEE SOMEBODY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY WRITE
A SCREENPLAY FOR A MOVIE.
GOD SAYS WHY NOT YOU?
WHY NOT YOU?
GET STARTED.
LORD, I ASK YOU, JESUS,
THAT WE WOULD JUST TAKE THE STEP OUT OF THE BOAT
ONTO THE WATER WITH JOY.
NOT JUST THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT WE WOULD DO IT WITH SUCH JOY AS WE FIX OUR EYES
ON THE WHO, NOT THE HOW, BUT ON YOUR STRENGTH
AND YOUR GRACE.
IN JESUS' MIGHTY NAME.
AMEN.
AMEN. SO GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
YES, SO GLAD TO BE.
SO YOU HAVE A BOOK,
STILL: SEVEN WAYS TO FIND CALM IN THE CHAOS.
YES.
AND YOU CAN GET THIS, AMAZON, I'M GUESSING?
YOU CAN GET ON AMAZON.
YOU CAN ALSO GO TO HERVOICEMOVEMENT.COM
AND WE HAVE COPIES THERE, TOO.
AND THAT IS ALSO THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET
CONNECTED TO YOU AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE A BOOK ON BUSINESS
AND SERVANT LEADERSHIP?
I DO HAVE A BOOK.
IT'S THE FIRST BOOK THAT BOB AND I WROTE TOGETHER.
IT'S CALLEDTHE ONE DEGREE.
AND WE PUT SEVEN DIFFERENT LITTLE THINGS
THAT WE SAW PEOPLE IN BUSINESS
OR IN LEADERSHIP OVERLOOK, BECAUSE THEY SEEMED SO SMALL,
THEY REALLY DON'T MATTER.
AND SO THE CONCEPT IS
IF YOU'RE OUT ON THE OCEAN AND YOU DIAL IN YOUR DIRECTION,
WHICH I'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE,
IT'S JUST A CONCEPT IN MY MIND,
YOU CAN START OFF, BUT IF YOU'RE EVEN ONE DEGREE OFF,
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION,
BUT YOU GET OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW 70 MILES, YOU'RE WAY OFF.
AND IT'S THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT WE SAW
PEOPLE OVERLOOK AS SMALL, LITTLE THINGS,
BUT ACTUALLY THEY'RE BIG, BIG, BIG THINGS.
AND IT'S, I THINK, A 99-PAGE BOOK.
IT'S A REALLY FAST READ.
IT'S CALLEDTHE ONE DEGREE.
AND YOU CAN GET THAT ALSO
AT HERVOICEMOVEMENT.COM.
WELL, YOU HEARD IT HERE, FOLKS.
CHECK THOSE BOOKS OUT
AND, JENNY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.