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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HEY, GUYS,
WELCOME BACK TO

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<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST</i> .


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I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY
BECAUSE I AM JOINED WITH

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NONE OTHER THAN JASMINE WHEELER,
WORSHIP PASTOR AT MERCY CULTURE

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LOCAL HERE
IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS.

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WELCOME TO THE SHOW.


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JASMINE WHEELER: THANKS FOR
HAVING ME.

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REBECCA: I'M SUPER HONORED
TO HAVE YOU HERE.

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AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
THINGS I LOVE ABOUT YOU,

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JASMINE, IS YOU KNOW WHO
YOU ARE, HOW YOU CARRY YOURSELF,

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AND YOU JUST SEEM LIKE SUCH
A DOWN-TO-EARTH PERSON

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WHO REALLY
LOVES THE LORD.

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AND I THINK THAT'S SUCH A
REFRESHING THING TO HAVE

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IN THE WORSHIP SPACE.


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AND SO THANK YOU FOR
WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

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JASMINE: OH, THANK YOU.


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THAT'S SO KIND.


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MEANS A LOT.


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REBECCA: OF COURSE.


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SO LET'S GET
INTO YOUR STORY.

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TELL ME ABOUT, SO
YOU'RE NOT FROM HERE.

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JASMINE: NO.


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REBECCA: WHERE WERE YOU
BORN AND RAISED IN?

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JASMINE: I WAS BORN IN MISSOURI.


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RAISED IN OHIO.


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REBECCA: OH, WOW.


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JASMINE: YEAH.


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REBECCA: SO TELL ME, WHAT WAS
CHILDHOOD LIKE GROWING UP?

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JASMINE: YEAH, WELL,
I WOULD SAY I GREW UP

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IN A PRETTY BROKEN HOME, MY MOM
AND DAD DIVORCED WHEN I WAS 2.

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THEN MY MOM REMARRIED WHEN
I WAS ABOUT 5 YEARS OLD,

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AND MY STEPDAD.


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AND PRETTY QUICKLY INTO
THAT MARRIAGE, WE LEARNED

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THAT HE STRUGGLED WITH
DRUGS, ALCOHOL, BIPOLAR,

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SCHIZOPHRENIC,
ADDICTED TO GAMBLING.

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SO THERE'S A LOT OF TURMOIL
IN THE HOUSE,

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TO SAY THE LEAST.


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SO THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MARKER,
I WOULD SAY, OF MY CHILDHOOD

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WAS JUST SOME OF THE ABUSE
WE EXPERIENCED IN THE HOUSE.

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I NEVER PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED
ANY PHYSICAL ABUSE,

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BUT I WITNESSED MY MOM
EXPERIENCE PHYSICAL ABUSE.

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I THINK MY SIDE OF IT WAS
MORE EMOTIONAL, VERBAL ABUSE,

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BUT THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH
MY ENTIRE CHILDHOOD

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UP UNTIL MY
JUNIOR YEAR IN HIGH SCHOOL.

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MY STEPDAD PASSED AWAY
WHEN I GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL,

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HAD KIDNEY FAILURE, AND
CRAZY STORY THERE

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AND JUST WHAT GOD DID
IN THAT RELATIONSHIP.

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BUT, THAT THAT'S THE
ATMOSPHERE THAT I GREW UP IN

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WITH MY MOM.


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MY MOM LOVES JESUS, GREW UP
IN CHURCH WITH HER,

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AND WAS IN CHURCH JUST ABOUT
EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

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AND SO THANKFUL THAT I
AT LEAST KNEW ABOUT GOD

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AND LEARNED ABOUT JESUS AT
A YOUNG AGE, GAVE MY LIFE

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TO THE LORD PRETTY YOUNG,
AND FELL IN LOVE WITH HIM.

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BUT A LOT THAT I HAD TO
WORK THROUGH AND PROCESS THROUGH

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AND HEAL FROM,
FROM MY CHILDHOOD.

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REBECCA: THAT'S A LOT.


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AND THAT THERE'S
A DICHOTOMY THERE

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BECAUSE YOU'RE IN CHURCH AND
THAT'S GREAT AND YOU'RE SAVED.

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YOUR MOM WAS A GOD-FEARING
WOMAN, HAD YOU ALL IN CHURCH,

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BUT THEN WHEN YOU
WOULD GET HOME, IT WAS CHAOTIC.

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SO HOW DID YOU MANEUVER
THE OPPOSINGNESS OF THAT?

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JASMINE: YEAH, I MEAN, I REALLY
STRUGGLED WITH IT.

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I THINK IT WAS A BIG PART OF MY,
MY WRESTLE, MY FAITH JOURNEY.

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I WOULD SAY, IS I COULDN'T
FIGURE OUT HOW IS IT THAT

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WE CAN BE SINGING THESE
SONGS ON SUNDAY AND,

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TALKING ABOUT GOD ALL THE
TIME AND THEN GET HOME?

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AND I LITERALLY REMEMBER ONE
SPECIFIC SUNDAY WE GOT HOME

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FROM CHURCH AND, SOME
DRAMA HAPPENED, YOU KNOW,

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WHEN WE GOT HOME AND I
REMEMBER SEEING MY MOM

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WITH A KNIFE TO HER THROAT IN
THE KITCHEN AND JUST BEING LIKE,

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WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?


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HOW DOES THIS WORK?


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YOU KNOW?


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AND SO IT PUT ME ON THIS,
TRAJECTORY OF REALLY

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GETTING TO FIND OUT IF GOD
CARED ABOUT ME PERSONALLY

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AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR IF HE
WAS JUST THIS FAR-OFF,

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DISTANT GOD WHO WAS
COMPLETELY UNCONCERNED

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AND DISCONNECTED FROM
THE REALITY OF THE THINGS

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THAT I WAS WALKING THROUGH,
THE HARD THINGS.

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AND I'M THANKFUL TO SAY
THAT I LEARNED,

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THAT HE WAS INTERESTED
AND HE DID CARE.

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AND HE WAS INVOLVED AND
THAT HE WAS NEAR TO ME.

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AND I GOT TO LEARN
THAT AS I GOT OLDER,

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THROUGH SOME SIGNIFICANT
ENCOUNTERS WITH HIM.

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BUT THAT WAS A BIG TENSION POINT
FOR ME GROWING UP, FOR SURE.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LITTLE,
IT'S YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

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WHAT'S GOING ON.


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IT'S JUST
HAPPENING TO YOU.

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AND IT'S NOT UNTIL YOU'RE
OLDER AND YOU CAN PROCESS IT.

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AND THE THING IS, IS THAT
GOD IS ALWAYS THERE

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AND WE FIND THAT OUT
LATER ON.

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BUT IN THE MOMENT IT
MIGHT NOT FEEL THAT WAY

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BECAUSE THINGS
WERE SO CHAOTIC.

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AND, YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH

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WHEN WE'RE UNDER OUR PARENTS'
HOUSEHOLD, WE HAVE TO LIVE

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WITH THE DECISIONS
THAT THEY MAKE.

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AND SO GOD
WAS A GOOD GOD.

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BUT YOUR MOM, YOU KNOW,
WAS WITH YOUR STEPDAD.

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WAS IT HARD FOR YOU THAT
SHE STAYED WITH HIM?

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JASMINE: YES.


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REBECCA: DID YOU EVER TALK
TO HER ABOUT IT?

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JASMINE: YEAH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

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BEAUTIFUL CONVERSATIONS NOW,
ON THE OTHER END OF EVERYTHING.

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BUT I REMEMBER FOR, FOR
A FEW YEARS I WAS PRETTY BITTER

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TOWARDS HER BECAUSE I COULDN'T
FIGURE OUT WHY SHE STAYED,

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AND, THERE'S
A LOT BEHIND THAT STORY.

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BUT I THINK AT THE END OF
THE DAY, MY MOM WAS JUST

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TRYING TO DO WHAT SHE
THOUGHT WAS RIGHT.

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SHE WAS TRYING TO DO
THE BEST THING,

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AND EVERY PARENT IS
JUST DOING THEIR BEST.

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AND YOU GET OLDER,
AND YOU REALIZE, OH,

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THEY JUST DID THEIR BEST AND
THEY WEREN'T PERFECT.

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BUT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME
PLAYING FIELD DOING THEIR BEST,

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YOU KNOW.


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AND SO I CAN LOOK
BACK NOW AND SAY THAT.

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BUT WHEN I WAS YOUNGER,
I DEFINITELY HAD SOME BITTERNESS

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IN MY HEART
TOWARDS MY MOM.

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REBECCA: I COMPLETELY
AGREE WITH THAT.

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I THINK BECOMING A PARENT CAN BE
A VERY HEALING EXPERIENCE,

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BECAUSE YOU
CAN KIND OF FINALLY

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SEE THINGS
FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE

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AND YOU UNDERSTAND THEY
DID THE BEST THEY COULD.

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YOU KNOW, THEY MADE
THE BEST DECISION

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THAT THEY KNEW
AT THAT TIME.

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AND SO IT GIVES YOU A
GRACE AND MERCY FOR THEM.

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SO YOU GROW UP IN
THIS HOME, YOU ENCOUNTER,

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WELL, YOU GAVE YOUR LIFE
TO THE LORD AT A YOUNG AGE.

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AT SOME POINT, YOU HAVE
AN ENCOUNTER WITH HIM,

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I THINK IN HIGH SCHOOL.


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AND YOU ALSO GOT LINKED UP
WITH PASTORS LANDON AND HEATHER?

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TALK ABOUT THAT.


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JASMINE: YEAH.


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THEY'RE MY YOUTH PASTORS.


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REBECCA: THAT'S SO WILD.


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JASMINE: I KNOW, IT'S CRAZY FULL
CIRCLE HOW THE LORD DOES THAT.

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REBECCA: BECAUSE TO GIVE
CONTEXT TO OUR AUDIENCE,

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THAT'S -- YOU'RE AT
THEIR CHURCH NOW.

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JASMINE: YEAH.


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REBECCA: SO IT'S LIKE THIS COOL,
LIKE FULL CIRCLE STORY,

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WHICH I LOVE. ANYWAY,


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SO HOW THEY WERE
YOUR YOUTH PASTORS?

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JASMINE: YEAH, THEY WERE
MY YOUTH PASTORS.

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AND IT'S KIND OF COOL.


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THEY WERE ACTUALLY A BIG
PART OF MY FORGIVENESS JOURNEY

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WITH MY STEPDAD.
THEY WERE YOUTH PASTORS

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AT THE SAME TIME THAT ALL OF
THAT WAS KIND OF UNFOLDING,

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I WAS REALLY
BITTER TOWARDS MY STEPDAD,

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HAD A LOT OF,


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REBECCA: UNDERSTANDBLY.


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JASMINE: YEAH, HAD A LOT OF I
WOULD SAY HATRED IN MY HEART

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TOWARD HIM,
TO SAY THE LEAST.

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AND, JUST BECAUSE OF THE THINGS
THAT WE WERE WALKING THROUGH

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AND EXPERIENCING, AND
I WAS YOUNG AND IMMATURE

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AND
YOUNG IN MY FAITH.

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AND SO I DIDN'T
LIKE HIM AT ALL.

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AND I REMEMBER GOING TO MY TO
MY PASTOR, TO MY YOUTH PASTORS,

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PASTOR LANDON
AND PASTOR HEATHER,

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AND TELLING THEM THAT
THE DOCTORS

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HAD JUST GIVEN MY STEPDAD
7 TO 10 DAYS TO LIVE.

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SO HE GOT KIDNEY FAILURE,
JUST FROM THE LIFESTYLE

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THAT HE WAS LIVING
AND REALLY ROUGH.

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HE WAS OUT IN THE STREETS
JUST DOING A LOT TON

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DURING THAT TIME.


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SO THEY SAID HE HAS
7 TO 10 DAYS TO LIVE.

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AND I WENT TO MY
YOUTH PASTORS AND SAID, HEY,

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THIS IS WHAT THE
DOCTOR JUST SAID.

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AND HONESTLY, IT WAS A KIND OF
A CELEBRATION MOMENT FOR ME.

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I THOUGHT, GOD'S SAVING US,
LIKE, HE'S GOING TO

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TAKE THIS GUY OUT BECAUSE HE'S
DOING THE MOST IN OUR HOUSE.

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AND I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT NOW.

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BUT THAT'S HOW I FELT
DURING THAT TIME.

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AND I TOLD THEM THAT.


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AND PASTOR LANDON'S
RESPONSE WAS, THE LORD PUT IT

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ON HIS HEART THAT AT
OUR YOUTH GROUP

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THAT IF WE WOULD PRAY FOR
MY STEPDAD AND ALL,

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JUST GIVE GOD A RADICAL PRAISE
THAT MY STEPDAD WOULD LIVE

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LONGER THAN TEN DAYS.


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AND I REMEMBER HIM TELLING
ME THAT AND BEING LIKE,

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YOU MISSED THE POINT.


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REBECCA: LIKE, NO.


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JASMINE: YEAH, LIKE
YOU MISSED THAT.

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REBECCA: IT'S ALMOST OVER.


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JASMINE: AND, AND SO I WAS
LIKE, OKAY, OKAY.

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AND SO WE GO THERE TO
YOUTH GROUP THAT NIGHT.

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WE PRAY FOR HIM.


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EVERYBODY GIVES A PRAISE.


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IT'S A WHOLE THING.


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AND I REMEMBER LEAVING
AND FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS,

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IT FELT LIKE THE LORD WAS LIKE,
HARASSING ME ABOUT FORGIVENESS

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OVER AND
OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

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LIKE BILLBOARDS
AND TV SHOWS.

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YOU KNOW HOW IT IS.


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WHEN GOD'S TRYING TO TALK
TO YOU, HE WILL TALK TO YOU.

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REBECCA: YOU'LL SEE
IT EVERYWHERE.

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YOU'RE LIKE,
LEAVE ME ALONE!

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JASMINE: RIGHT, RIGHT.


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SO THAT WAS HAPPENING,
AND I KNEW THAT I NEEDED TO

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FORGIVE MY STEPDAD, THAT
THAT WAS THE NEXT PART OF

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MY SPIRITUAL JOURNEY,
AND SO ONE DAY,

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I FINALLY FELT LED TO GO
INTO THE HOSPITAL ROOM.

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AT THE TIME, MY STEPDAD
WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.

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HE WAS ON HIS DEATH BED, AND
HE COULDN'T EVEN TALK ANYMORE

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LIKE HE
WAS THAT SICK.

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AND I REMEMBER GOING IN
AND THINKING, OKAY,

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THIS IS THE DAY THAT I'M GOING
TO FORGIVE HIM TODAY.

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AND SO I WALKED INTO THE
HOSPITAL ROOM AND I READ.

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I ASKED HIM IF I COULD
READ A SCRIPTURE WITH HIM,

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AND HE NODDED HIS HEAD,


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YES.


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I READ LIKE A BIBLE
PASSAGE WITH HIM.

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AND THEN AFTER THAT I JUST
BEGAN TO TALK TO HIM AND I SAID,

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HEY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU
HAVEN'T BEEN A PERFECT FATHER,

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BUT YOU
YOU WERE IN MY HOME

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IN THE WAY THAT MY OWN FATHER
WASN'T OVER THE YEARS.

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AND I TOLD HIM ALL
THE THINGS I WAS THANKFUL FOR

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THAT HE DID DO.


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AND THEN I SAID, I JUST WANT YOU
TO KNOW THAT I FORGIVE YOU.

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I FORGIVE YOU FOR EVERYTHING
YOU'VE EVER DONE TO ME.

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I FORGIVE YOU FOR
EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER DONE

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TO MY MOM.


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I FORGIVE YOU FOR THE
DECISIONS THAT YOU'VE MADE.

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AND, IT WAS LITERALLY
LIKE, I JUST FELT THIS, RELIEF.

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THIS, I DON'T KNOW
ANOTHER WAY TO SAY IT

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THAN A DEEP RELIEF
THAT I FELT.

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I FELT FREEDOM
COME ON ME.

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AND I SAID IT.


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I'M CRYING.


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I LOOK OVER, HE'S CRYING.


00:09:50.232 --> 00:09:53.033
IT'S THIS WHOLE MOMENT AND
I SAID, HEY,

00:09:53.133 --> 00:09:56.900
I WANT TO GET TO SEE YOU AGAIN
DOWN THE ROAD IN THE FUTURE.

00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:00.666
DO YOU WANT TO RECEIVE
JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR?

00:10:00.766 --> 00:10:02.433
WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE
TO JESUS SO WE CAN GET TO

00:10:02.533 --> 00:10:03.666
SEE EACH OTHER
DOWN THE ROAD?

00:10:03.766 --> 00:10:06.266
I KNOW WHERE YOU WILL GO
TO BE WITH THE FATHER, YOU KNOW?

00:10:06.366 --> 00:10:07.599
AND HE NODS HIS HEAD,


00:10:07.699 --> 00:10:08.566
YES.


00:10:08.666 --> 00:10:10.166
AND I'M LIKE, THIS
IS CRAZY, YOU KNOW?

00:10:10.266 --> 00:10:12.932
AND SO THIS IS MY FIRST
TIME GETTING TO LEAD SOMEBODY

00:10:13.032 --> 00:10:15.766
TO THE LORD WAS
MY STEPDAD.

00:10:15.866 --> 00:10:16.633
JASMINE: YEAH, SO CATCH THIS.


00:10:16.733 --> 00:10:17.866
SO IT WAS MY FIRST TIME.


00:10:17.966 --> 00:10:20.233
SO I LITERALLY TOLD HIM,
I'M LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S THE DEAL.

00:10:20.333 --> 00:10:23.233
I NEED YOU TO REPEAT AFTER
ME BECAUSE THAT'S ALL I KNOW

00:10:23.333 --> 00:10:24.866
FOR SOMEBODY
TO RECEIVE JESUS.

00:10:24.966 --> 00:10:26.266
BUT HE CAN'T TALK.


00:10:26.366 --> 00:10:28.666
AND SO I'M LIKE, I SAY,
JESUS, I'M WAITING FOR HIM

00:10:28.766 --> 00:10:29.733
TO REPEAT AFTER ME.


00:10:29.833 --> 00:10:32.833
HE DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING
AND I'M LIKE, JESUS.

00:10:32.933 --> 00:10:33.933
HE DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING.


00:10:34.033 --> 00:10:36.233
AND I LOOKED AT HIM
AND I WAS LIKE, LOOK, MAN,

00:10:36.333 --> 00:10:40.199
YOU GOT TO SAY THIS LIKE,
I NEED YOU TO SAY IT OUT LOUD.

00:10:40.299 --> 00:10:41.366
YOU KNOW?


00:10:41.466 --> 00:10:43.699
AND, A COUPLE MINUTES
LATER, HE REPEATS AFTER ME.

00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:44.733
HE SAYS THE WHOLE THING.


00:10:44.833 --> 00:10:46.933
IT WAS LITERALLY LIKE
A MIRACLE, YOU KNOW,

00:10:47.033 --> 00:10:49.166
EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM IS
LIKE, HE'S TALKING, YOU KNOW?

00:10:49.266 --> 00:10:52.166
SO HE SAYS THE PRAYER
WITH ME, I GIVE HIM A HUG

00:10:52.266 --> 00:10:54.999
AND WALK OUT OF THE HOSPITAL
ROOM, AND THAT WAS IT.

00:10:55.099 --> 00:11:00.133
AND, HE ENDED UP LIVING
LONGER THAN TEN DAYS,

00:11:00.233 --> 00:11:02.666
BUT THE ULTIMATE TESTIMONY
IS THAT HE LIVED.

00:11:02.766 --> 00:11:03.933
HE HAD TO LIVE
IN ETERNITY.

00:11:04.033 --> 00:11:07.099
HE HAD TO, HE GOT TO LIVE
WAY LONGER THAN TEN DAYS.

00:11:07.199 --> 00:11:11.566
AND THE TESTIMONY, THE
MOMENT THAT REALLY SHOWED ME

00:11:11.666 --> 00:11:13.166
THAT GOD
HAD DONE THE WORK

00:11:13.266 --> 00:11:15.766
WAS THE MOMENT I FOUND OUT THAT
HE PASSED AWAY.

00:11:15.866 --> 00:11:17.200
I WEPT LIKE A BABY.


00:11:17.300 --> 00:11:18.500
REBECCA: WOW.


00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:20.266
JASMINE: AND I NEVER THOUGHT I
WOULD CRY THE MOMENT HE DIED

00:11:20.366 --> 00:11:23.166
BECAUSE I HAD SO MUCH BITTERNESS
IN MY HEART, YOU KNOW?

00:11:23.266 --> 00:11:24.266
AND SO GOD REALLY DID IT.


00:11:24.366 --> 00:11:29.699
HE COMPLETELY RESTORED,
HEALED OUR RELATIONSHIP,

00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:32.699
AND IT WAS MY FIRST TIME
GETTING TO SEE THE BEAUTY

00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:35.666
OF GOD'S LOVE FOR SOMEONE,
THAT SOMEBODY COULD LIVE

00:11:35.766 --> 00:11:38.832
60-PLUS YEARS OF
A WRETCHED LIFE,

00:11:38.932 --> 00:11:40.833
AND DAYS BEFORE THEY'RE
CALLED INTO ETERNITY,

00:11:40.933 --> 00:11:42.833
GOD COULD SAY,
HEY, COME ON IN.

00:11:42.933 --> 00:11:46.466
AND I'M LIKE, MAN, WE'RE
NOT LIKE THAT, WE'RE JUST,

00:11:46.566 --> 00:11:48.099
I'M JUST, I KNOW
I'M NOT LIKE THAT.

00:11:48.199 --> 00:11:50.466
I'M LIKE YOU, 60 YEARS,
I DON'T KNOW.

00:11:50.566 --> 00:11:54.766
YOU KNOW, AND SO GOD IS SO
AMAZING IN THE WAY HE LOVES US.

00:11:54.866 --> 00:11:55.966
AND ANYWAY, THAT
MARKED MY LIFE.

00:11:56.066 --> 00:11:59.733
BUT THE SCHOTTS WERE A BIG PART
OF THAT STORY HAPPENING.

00:11:59.833 --> 00:12:02.400
AND SO CRAZY FULL CIRCLE NOW,
GETTING TO LIVE LIFE WITH THEM

00:12:02.500 --> 00:12:04.899
AND THEN BEING A PART OF THE
BIGGEST FORGIVENESS STORY

00:12:04.999 --> 00:12:06.199
IN MY LIFE.


00:12:06.299 --> 00:12:08.099
REBECCA: AND THAT WAS
SUCH A BEAUTIFUL MOMENT

00:12:08.199 --> 00:12:12.266
WHERE YOU WERE OBEDIENT AND IT
LED TO A MAN'S LIFE BEING MARKED

00:12:12.366 --> 00:12:14.099
AND CHANGED FOREVER, THAT
YOU'LL GET TO SEE HIM

00:12:14.199 --> 00:12:15.066
IN ETERNITY.


00:12:15.166 --> 00:12:16.299
AND GOD CAN DO THAT.


00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.799
HE CAN TAKE THE MOST BROKEN OF
PEOPLE IN RELATIONSHIPS

00:12:18.899 --> 00:12:20.333
AND BRING RESTORATION.


00:12:20.433 --> 00:12:21.233
AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.


00:12:21.333 --> 00:12:22.700
AND HE DOES IT
IN THE RIGHT TIMING,

00:12:22.800 --> 00:12:25.366
AND A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S NOT
UNTIL PEOPLE ARE RIGHT ABOUT TO

00:12:25.466 --> 00:12:27.533
FACE DEATH THAT THEY'RE
WILLING TO POSTURE THEIR HEARTS

00:12:27.633 --> 00:12:29.733
AND THANK GOD FOR
THAT, BECAUSE WE WANT

00:12:29.833 --> 00:12:32.500
OUR LOVED ONES TO BE
WITH US IN ETERNITY.

00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:34.266
SO THAT'S IN HIGH SCHOOL.


00:12:34.366 --> 00:12:36.166
SO YOU LIVE OUT YOUR
HIGH SCHOOL DAYS.

00:12:36.266 --> 00:12:39.266
AND YOU OBVIOUSLY
GO OFF TO COLLEGE.

00:12:39.366 --> 00:12:40.100
TALK ABOUT THAT.


00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:40.766
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:12:40.866 --> 00:12:42.566
SO MY STEPDAD PASSED AWAY.


00:12:42.666 --> 00:12:46.266
HIS FUNERAL WAS THE FIRST DAY
OF SCHOOL MY JUNIOR YEAR.

00:12:46.366 --> 00:12:49.232
AND SO FINISHED OUT
HIGH SCHOOL,

00:12:49.332 --> 00:12:52.266
I WANTED TO STUDY
CORPORATE COMMUNICATION.

00:12:52.366 --> 00:12:54.233
FELT CALLED INTO
THE CORPORATE WORLD,

00:12:54.333 --> 00:12:57.866
FELT LIKE I WAS GOING TO BE
WORKING IN BUSINESS SPACE

00:12:57.966 --> 00:12:58.799
SOMEWHERE.


00:12:58.899 --> 00:12:59.732
REBECCA: THAT'S SO FUNNY
KNOWING YOU NOW.

00:12:59.832 --> 00:13:00.799
JASMINE: I KNOW, IT'S SO,
IT'S WEIRD.

00:13:00.899 --> 00:13:01.766
REBECCA: I DON'T THINK
ANYONE WOULD THINK THAT.

00:13:01.866 --> 00:13:02.800
JASMINE: I KNOW, I KNOW.


00:13:02.900 --> 00:13:05.466
REBECCA: BUT HEY, MORE THAN
MEETS THE EYE.

00:13:05.566 --> 00:13:06.866
YOU GOT THAT
BUSINESS MIND TOO.

00:13:06.966 --> 00:13:08.433
JASMINE: YEAH, I MEAN, I WANTED
TO WORK FOR, LIKE, A TV NETWORK

00:13:08.533 --> 00:13:13.066
OR RADIO STATION OR RECORD
LABEL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

00:13:13.166 --> 00:13:15.299
AND SO I'M
GOING TO PURSUE THAT.

00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.599
AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT
HAPPENED IS ALONG THE WAY,

00:13:18.699 --> 00:13:20.366
I START
GETTING ALL THESE

00:13:20.466 --> 00:13:23.866
PROPHETIC WORDS
ABOUT DOING MUSIC.

00:13:23.966 --> 00:13:25.666
REBECCA: WAS MUSIC IN
YOUR VIEW SCREEN AT THAT TIME?

00:13:25.766 --> 00:13:26.666
JASMINE: NOT AT ALL.


00:13:26.766 --> 00:13:27.666
REBECCA: REALLY?


00:13:27.766 --> 00:13:28.500
JASMINE: NO.


00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:29.733
I MEAN, I WAS ON
THE WORSHIP TEAM,

00:13:29.833 --> 00:13:32.332
BUT LIKE I WAS ON I WAS
THE PERSON ON THE WORSHIP TEAM

00:13:32.432 --> 00:13:34.466
WHERE YOUR MIC GETS TURNED DOWN
LOW AND YOU'RE LIKE,

00:13:34.566 --> 00:13:35.733
UP THERE FOR EXPRESSION.


00:13:35.833 --> 00:13:38.232
YOU KNOW, LIKE,
THAT WAS ME FOR SURE.

00:13:38.332 --> 00:13:40.066
REBECCA: THAT'S SO WEIRD BECAUSE
YOU'RE SUCH A GOOD SINGER.

00:13:40.166 --> 00:13:41.166
THAT'S HARD FOR
ME TO IMAGINE.

00:13:41.266 --> 00:13:43.033
JASMINE: WELL,
THE LORD DOES WORKS.

00:13:43.133 --> 00:13:44.099
HE DOES THINGS.


00:13:44.199 --> 00:13:45.266
YEAH.


00:13:45.366 --> 00:13:47.166
AND SO I'M GETTING THESE
PROPHETIC WORDS ABOUT MUSIC

00:13:47.266 --> 00:13:48.832
AND I'M LIKE,
NO, YOU KNOW.

00:13:48.932 --> 00:13:49.866
REBECCA: DID YOU PLAY
ANY INSTRUMENTS?

00:13:49.966 --> 00:13:50.733
JASMINE: NO.


00:13:50.833 --> 00:13:51.400
REBECCA: REALLY?


00:13:51.500 --> 00:13:53.500
JASMINE: NOTHING, NOTHING.


00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:54.866
AND I DIDN'T --


00:13:54.966 --> 00:13:56.633
REBECCA: SORRY, Y'ALL, I'M JUST
LIKE, I'VE SEEN HER LEAD WORSHIP

00:13:56.733 --> 00:13:57.566
SO MANY TIMES.


00:13:57.666 --> 00:13:58.766
I'M TRIPPING OUT
BECAUSE SO MANY TIMES

00:13:58.866 --> 00:14:00.866
IT'S LIKE I'VE DONE IT
SINCE I WAS A KID, YOU KNOW?

00:14:00.966 --> 00:14:01.866
SO I'M JUST TRIPPING OUT.


00:14:01.966 --> 00:14:02.833
JASMINE: NO.


00:14:02.933 --> 00:14:04.033
REBECCA: SO YOU GET THESE
PROPHETIC WORDS.

00:14:04.133 --> 00:14:06.600
IT'S PROBABLY WEIRD FOR
YOU BECAUSE YOU SAW THIS WAY,

00:14:06.700 --> 00:14:08.600
AND THAT WORD
WAS LIKE, THAT WAY.

00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:09.666
JASMINE: YES.


00:14:09.766 --> 00:14:10.866
I MEAN, I WAS A
BASKETBALL PLAYER, YOU KNOW,

00:14:10.966 --> 00:14:12.632
SO LAST THING I'M
THINKING ABOUT IS DOING MUSIC,

00:14:12.732 --> 00:14:15.999
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BE ON
A PLATFORM IN FRONT OF ANYBODY.

00:14:16.099 --> 00:14:17.633
I GREW UP IN CHURCH,
SAW A LOT BEHIND THE SCENES,

00:14:17.733 --> 00:14:19.500
AND I WAS LIKE,
I DON'T WANT TO BE WEIRD.

00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:20.599
I DON'T WANT TO.


00:14:20.699 --> 00:14:23.133
I WANT TO LIKE, I
DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.

00:14:23.233 --> 00:14:26.799
I DON'T WANT TO BE ON PLATFORMS
IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND STUFF.

00:14:26.899 --> 00:14:29.599
AND SO ANYWAY, I GOT
A BUNCH OF WORDS.

00:14:29.699 --> 00:14:32.300
AND THEN LONG STORY SHORT,
I WAS WEEPING ONE DAY

00:14:32.400 --> 00:14:34.966
TO ONE OF MY MENTORS, AND I WAS
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

00:14:35.066 --> 00:14:36.033
I KEEP GETTING
THESE WORDS.

00:14:36.133 --> 00:14:37.799
I CAN'T SING,
DON'T PLAY AN INSTRUMENT.

00:14:37.899 --> 00:14:39.566
I DON'T WANT TO BE
IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.

00:14:39.666 --> 00:14:41.133
AND SHE SAID, JASMINE,
GOD'S INVITING YOU

00:14:41.233 --> 00:14:42.700
INTO PART
OF YOUR DESTINY.

00:14:42.800 --> 00:14:44.499
YOU CAN EITHER SAY YES TO
GOD AND HE'LL SHOW YOU

00:14:44.599 --> 00:14:46.766
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE,
OR YOU CAN SAY NO,

00:14:46.866 --> 00:14:48.133
AND HE'LL USE
SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT.

00:14:48.233 --> 00:14:49.933
BUT YOU NEED TO
MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

00:14:50.033 --> 00:14:54.933
AND I WAS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW,
LIKE, THAT'S SUCH AN ULTIMATUM,

00:14:55.033 --> 00:14:56.133
YOU KNOW?


00:14:56.233 --> 00:14:58.733
AND SO I, GAVE
THE LORD MY YES,

00:14:58.833 --> 00:15:00.033
WROTE IT IN MY
JOURNAL, KIND OF MADE IT

00:15:00.133 --> 00:15:01.732
LIKE D-DAY, YOU KNOW.


00:15:01.832 --> 00:15:03.733
AND THEN A FEW WEEKS AFTER
THAT, THE LORD BEGAN TO

00:15:03.833 --> 00:15:05.833
TEACH ME HOW TO
PLAY THE GUITAR.

00:15:05.933 --> 00:15:07.166
REBECCA: THAT'S SO COOL.


00:15:07.266 --> 00:15:08.199
JASMINE: AND ALL THESE DOORS
STARTED OPENING TO LEAD WORSHIP

00:15:08.299 --> 00:15:10.166
PLACES, AND PEOPLE WOULD
CALL AND BE LIKE,

00:15:10.266 --> 00:15:12.366
HEY, CAN YOU COME LEAD WORSHIP
AT THIS SMALL GROUP THING?

00:15:12.466 --> 00:15:15.432
AND I'M LIKE, HOW DO YOU KNOW
THAT I LEAD WORSHIP,

00:15:15.532 --> 00:15:17.799
AND THEY'RE LIKE,
WE JUST HEARD YOUR NAME.

00:15:17.899 --> 00:15:20.166
YOU KNOW, GOD TOLD US TO
CALL YOU OR WHATEVER.

00:15:20.266 --> 00:15:21.266
AND I'M LIKE,
THIS IS WEIRD.

00:15:21.366 --> 00:15:22.566
REBECCA: THAT'S WILD.


00:15:22.666 --> 00:15:26.666
JASMINE: SO THAT'S HOW THE
WORSHIP SIDE OF THINGS STARTED,

00:15:26.766 --> 00:15:29.632
AND I WASN'T
EXPECTING IT AT ALL, YOU KNOW?

00:15:29.732 --> 00:15:32.466
AND SO THAT WAS THE FIRST KIND
OF STRANGE THING

00:15:32.566 --> 00:15:33.832
THAT
HAPPENED IN COLLEGE

00:15:33.932 --> 00:15:37.066
WAS MUSIC OPENING UP THE
MINISTRY SIDE OF THINGS,

00:15:37.166 --> 00:15:41.166
OPENING UP, PLAYING AT CHURCHES,
PLAYING CONFERENCES,

00:15:41.266 --> 00:15:42.299
ALL THAT
KIND OF STUFF.

00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:43.333
REBECCA: SO, WOW.


00:15:43.433 --> 00:15:45.433
SO THAT WAS THE
BEGINNING OF THAT JOURNEY.

00:15:45.533 --> 00:15:48.266
SO AT THE SAME TIME,
YOU WERE A D1 ATHLETE.

00:15:48.366 --> 00:15:48.999
JASMINE: YES.


00:15:49.099 --> 00:15:49.533
REBECCA: SO TALK ABOUT THAT.


00:15:49.633 --> 00:15:50.132
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:15:50.232 --> 00:15:50.899
YEAH.


00:15:50.999 --> 00:15:52.066
I PLAYED
COLLEGE BASKETBALL.

00:15:52.166 --> 00:15:57.033
I GOT IN, I GOT A FULL RIDE
DIVISION ONE SCHOLARSHIP

00:15:57.133 --> 00:15:58.966
FOR BASKETBALL BY
THE SKIN OF MY TEETH.

00:15:59.066 --> 00:16:01.366
REBECCA: I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S
PRETTY IMPRESSIVE, THOUGH,

00:16:01.466 --> 00:16:03.233
FOR D1.


00:16:03.333 --> 00:16:04.666
JASMINE: NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO
GET ALL THE WAY INTO IT.

00:16:04.766 --> 00:16:06.633
BUT I PLAYED THE BEST
GAME OF MY LIFE

00:16:06.733 --> 00:16:08.666
WHEN SOME COLLEGE COACHES
WERE AT OUR OUR SCHOOL.

00:16:08.766 --> 00:16:09.632
REBECCA: REALLY?


00:16:09.732 --> 00:16:10.266
JASMINE: AND SO I THINK
IT WAS THE LORD.

00:16:10.366 --> 00:16:11.532
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:16:11.632 --> 00:16:12.666
JASMINE: YEAH, YOU CAN GO
FIND MY STATS.

00:16:12.766 --> 00:16:15.066
YOU'LL BE LIKE, YEAH,
IT WAS THE LORD, YOU KNOW,

00:16:15.166 --> 00:16:19.333
BUT I ENDED UP PLAYING
COLLEGE BALL AND, JUST REALLY

00:16:19.433 --> 00:16:21.966
THE LORD CONNECTED ME REALLY
EARLY ON TO PEOPLE

00:16:22.066 --> 00:16:23.399
WHO REALLY LOVE JESUS
ON MY CAMPUS.

00:16:23.499 --> 00:16:25.600
AND SO WE JUST GOT
TO SEE GOD MOVE.

00:16:25.700 --> 00:16:27.866
WE WERE SEEING PEOPLE GET
HEALED, PEOPLE GET SAVED,

00:16:27.966 --> 00:16:29.433
DELIVERANCE HAPPEN,
ALL KINDS OF CRAZY STUFF.

00:16:29.533 --> 00:16:31.533
REBECCA: WHICH IS NOT MOST
PEOPLE'S COLLEGE EXPERIENCE.

00:16:31.633 --> 00:16:32.632
JASMINE: RIGHT?


00:16:32.732 --> 00:16:33.399
REBECCA: USUALLY PEOPLE
WHILE OUT OF COLLEGE,

00:16:33.499 --> 00:16:34.733
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?


00:16:34.833 --> 00:16:38.899
JASMINE: YEAH, NO, I WAS IN LOVE
WITH JESUS ALREADY BY THIS TIME.

00:16:38.999 --> 00:16:41.299
AND I TOLD THE LORD AS
SOON AS I GOT THERE,

00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:43.699
LORD, CONNECT ME TO
THE REVIVALISTS ON THE CAMPUS.

00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:45.966
I DON'T WANT TO JUST
GET CONNECTED TO.

00:16:46.066 --> 00:16:46.932
AND I HAVE
NOTHING AGAINST

00:16:47.032 --> 00:16:48.999
ALL THE DIFFERENT
CHRISITIAN MINISTRIES.

00:16:49.099 --> 00:16:50.133
BUT I WAS JUST LIKE, I
JUST REALLY WANT TO MEET

00:16:50.233 --> 00:16:52.000
PEOPLE WHO ARE
SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.

00:16:52.100 --> 00:16:53.666
I DON'T WANT TO PLAY
GAMES WITH IT.

00:16:53.766 --> 00:16:55.066
REBECCA: YOU WANTED
PEOPLE WHO WERE, YOU KNOW,

00:16:55.166 --> 00:16:57.199
FULLY SURRENDERED,
COMMITTED, YOU KNOW,

00:16:57.299 --> 00:16:58.766
HAD MADE UP
THEIR MINDS.

00:16:58.866 --> 00:17:00.600
JASMINE: AND THAT'S HOW THE
REVIVALISTS ARE, YOU KNOW.

00:17:00.700 --> 00:17:01.366
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:17:01.466 --> 00:17:02.466
AND IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY.


00:17:02.566 --> 00:17:04.066
THIS GUY COMES UP TO ME
AND A GROUP OF GIRLS.

00:17:04.166 --> 00:17:05.233
WE WERE HANGING OUT
AND HE'S LIKE,

00:17:05.333 --> 00:17:07.866
HEY, WE GOT THIS BIBLE STUDY
THAT WE DO.

00:17:07.966 --> 00:17:09.966
AND HE STARTS SAYING ALL
THIS STUFF THAT THEY DO.

00:17:10.066 --> 00:17:10.833
WE SEE PEOPLE HEAL.


00:17:10.933 --> 00:17:11.599
WE SEE PEOPLE DELIVERED.


00:17:11.699 --> 00:17:12.900
WE PRAY IN THE SPIRIT.


00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.566
PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, HE WAS
JUST GOING ON THIS LIST

00:17:14.666 --> 00:17:17.332
AND ALL THE GIRLS WERE LIKE
LOOKING LIKE, WHO IS THIS GUY?

00:17:17.432 --> 00:17:19.866
AND I WAS LIKE,
HEY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

00:17:19.966 --> 00:17:23.199
LIKE, I PRAYED FOR YOU TO
COME FIND ME, YOU KNOW,

00:17:23.299 --> 00:17:24.566
LIKE, I WANT TO
HANG OUT WITH YOU GUYS.

00:17:24.666 --> 00:17:26.833
AND SO, STARTED
BUILDING WITH THEM.

00:17:26.933 --> 00:17:28.933
IT WAS AMAZING, INCREDIBLE
EXPERIENCE WITH THE LORD

00:17:29.033 --> 00:17:33.799
IN COLLEGE AND THEN MY EVERY,
EVERY YEAR PLAYING BASKETBALL.

00:17:33.899 --> 00:17:36.900
I GOT INJURED, SO
FRESHMAN, SOPHOMORE,

00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.232
JUNIOR YEAR, I GOT INJURED
AND I HATED PLAYING.

00:17:39.332 --> 00:17:41.333
I DID NOT WANT TO PLAY,
BUT I GOT A SCHOLARSHIP

00:17:41.433 --> 00:17:43.366
AND FELT LIKE
THE LORD TOLD ME TO GO.

00:17:43.466 --> 00:17:46.399
REBECCA: DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT
BASKETBALL WAS A TICKET

00:17:46.499 --> 00:17:49.166
FOR YOU TO GO TO WHERE GOD
WANTED YOU TO BE, COLLEGE-WISE?

00:17:49.266 --> 00:17:50.366
JASMINE: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.


00:17:50.466 --> 00:17:52.600
REBECCA: AND SO YOU DID, BECAUSE
IT GAVE YOU A FULL RIDE.

00:17:52.700 --> 00:17:53.833
JASMINE: YES.


00:17:53.933 --> 00:17:54.699
REBECCA: AND SO IT BROUGHT YOU
WHERE YOU NEEDED TO BE,

00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:55.866
BUT YOU DIDN'T GET
JOY IN THE GAME.

00:17:55.966 --> 00:17:57.133
JASMINE: NO, NO.


00:17:57.233 --> 00:17:58.366
REBECCA: YOU WERE JUST DOING IT
SO YOU COULD FINISH OUT

00:17:58.466 --> 00:17:59.333
YOUR COLLEGE CAREER.


00:17:59.433 --> 00:18:00.166
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:18:00.266 --> 00:18:01.333
SOME PEOPLE FIND
THEIR IDENTITY,

00:18:01.433 --> 00:18:03.700
YOU KNOW, IN THEIR
SPORT OR WHAT THEY DO.

00:18:03.800 --> 00:18:05.233
AND I JUST, I
WASN'T THAT PERSON.

00:18:05.333 --> 00:18:08.132
I DIDN'T REALLY WANT
TO BE THERE PLAYING.

00:18:08.232 --> 00:18:09.833
BUT I KNEW I HAD TO BE,
YOU KNOW, AND --

00:18:09.933 --> 00:18:12.066
REBECCA: WELL, IT'S INTENSE. I
MEAN, COLLEGE SPORTS, ESPECIALLY

00:18:12.166 --> 00:18:13.900
IF YOU'RE D1,
IT'S VERY INTENSE.

00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:15.666
AND IF YOU DON'T DO GOOD,
YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL LIKE

00:18:15.766 --> 00:18:16.832
YOU LET PEOPLE DOWN.


00:18:16.932 --> 00:18:18.333
I DON'T KNOW, I ALWAYS
TOLD MY HUSBAND

00:18:18.433 --> 00:18:19.633
I WOULD NOT WANT TO
BE IN THAT POSITION.

00:18:19.733 --> 00:18:20.932
JASMINE: OH, NO, NO, NO.


00:18:21.032 --> 00:18:22.266
YEAH.


00:18:22.366 --> 00:18:22.832
REBECCA: BECAUSE PEOPLE TAKE,
I MEAN, PEOPLE WORSHIP SPORTS.

00:18:22.932 --> 00:18:23.333
JASMINE: OH, YEAH.


00:18:23.433 --> 00:18:24.633
IT'S INTENSE.


00:18:24.733 --> 00:18:27.366
I TELL PEOPLE LIKE ATHLETES
THAT I MEET THAT ARE YOUNGER,

00:18:27.466 --> 00:18:28.632
YOU KNOW,
TRYING TO DECIDE.

00:18:28.732 --> 00:18:32.433
I'M LIKE, ONLY GO IF YOU ARE
REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS

00:18:32.533 --> 00:18:35.866
OR YOU FEEL LIKE THE LORD IS
TELLING YOU TO GO,

00:18:35.966 --> 00:18:38.266
IT'S NOT FOR
THE FAINT OF HEART.

00:18:38.366 --> 00:18:40.700
SO I LEARNED A LOT.


00:18:40.800 --> 00:18:44.033
I GREW A LOT THROUGH THE
WHOLE THING, BUT I GOT INJURED

00:18:44.133 --> 00:18:49.399
EVERY YEAR, AND MY SENIOR YEAR
I ACTUALLY TORE MY ACL,

00:18:49.499 --> 00:18:51.166
SO I WAS THE
MOST EXCITED TO PLAY

00:18:51.266 --> 00:18:54.099
MY SENIOR YEAR, AND I
GET EIGHT GAMES INTO THE SEASON.

00:18:54.199 --> 00:18:55.433
I THINK IT WAS
ABOUT EIGHT GAMES.

00:18:55.533 --> 00:19:00.100
WE WERE PLAYING OUR RIVAL AND
I TORE MY ACL DURING THE GAME,

00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:01.533
AND THAT WAS
THE END OF MY CAREER.

00:19:01.633 --> 00:19:02.766
I WAS JUST DONE.


00:19:02.866 --> 00:19:05.032
REBECCA: THAT'S A
REALLY BAD INJURY.

00:19:05.132 --> 00:19:05.799
JASMINE: OH, YEAH.


00:19:05.899 --> 00:19:06.899
YEAH.


00:19:06.999 --> 00:19:10.066
AND IF YOU TEAR YOUR ACL,
YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE.

00:19:10.166 --> 00:19:12.866
PLAYING, THAT'S WHAT THE DOCTORS
WOULD SAY.

00:19:12.966 --> 00:19:14.066
YOU KNOW.


00:19:14.166 --> 00:19:17.833
AND SO REALLY BAD INJURY.
I DIDN'T ACTUALLY FEEL PAIN

00:19:17.933 --> 00:19:19.000
WHEN I GOT INJURED.


00:19:19.100 --> 00:19:21.866
I CRIED WHEN THEY TOLD ME
IT WAS MY ACL

00:19:21.966 --> 00:19:23.500
BECAUSE I KNOW
I KNEW WHAT IT MEANT.

00:19:23.600 --> 00:19:24.600
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:19:24.700 --> 00:19:25.600
YOU
KNEW IT WAS OVER.

00:19:25.700 --> 00:19:26.566
JASMINE: YEAH, YEAH.


00:19:26.666 --> 00:19:28.166
AND SO, THAT HAPPENED.


00:19:28.266 --> 00:19:29.432
REBECCA: RIGHT WHEN
YOU STARTED TO LIKE IT.

00:19:29.532 --> 00:19:32.233
JASMINE: I KNOW, I KNOW, I'M
LIKE, I ACTUALLY ENJOY THIS

00:19:32.333 --> 00:19:33.566
RIGHT NOW.


00:19:33.666 --> 00:19:34.700
REBECCA: AND IT WAS YOUR
SENIOR YEAR, RIGHT?

00:19:34.800 --> 00:19:36.000
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:19:36.100 --> 00:19:36.566
REBECCA: SO THAT'S LIKE THE YEAR
WHERE IT'S LIKE A BIG DEAL.

00:19:36.666 --> 00:19:37.932
JASMINE: YEAH. YEAH.


00:19:38.032 --> 00:19:41.533
TEAM CAPTAINS, STARTING
POINT GUARD, ALL THE THINGS

00:19:41.633 --> 00:19:43.533
LIKE THE TEAM CHAPLAIN,
YOU KNOW, THE JUST

00:19:43.633 --> 00:19:47.666
ALL THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO.
AND SO ANYWAY, SO THAT HAPPENED

00:19:47.766 --> 00:19:50.333
AND I HAD
TO GET A SURGERY.

00:19:50.433 --> 00:19:53.999
AND SO THEY DO THE SURGERY, AND
THEN IT TAKES TIME TO RECOVER.

00:19:54.099 --> 00:19:56.799
AND SO IN THE MIDST OF
RECOVERY, ONE OF MY TEAMMATES

00:19:56.899 --> 00:19:58.899
STEPPED IN
TO REALLY HELP ME OUT

00:19:58.999 --> 00:20:01.732
AND JUST TO HELP TAKE CARE
OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

00:20:01.832 --> 00:20:06.799
AND, WHEN THIS TEAMMATE
HAD COME INTO OUR TEAM,

00:20:06.899 --> 00:20:08.399
THE LORD HAD BASICALLY
SHOWN ME THAT

00:20:08.499 --> 00:20:11.399
HE WAS GOING TO DRAW HER TO
HIMSELF, THAT HE WANTED HER,

00:20:11.499 --> 00:20:12.299
YOU KNOW.


00:20:12.399 --> 00:20:13.666
AND SO I WAS EXCITED.


00:20:13.766 --> 00:20:15.266
I'M LIKE, OKAY, LORD'S GOING TO
DO SOMETHING WITH HER, YOU KNOW?

00:20:15.366 --> 00:20:16.966
AND SO HERE I AM.


00:20:17.066 --> 00:20:20.199
AND, ANYWAY, SHE STARTS
HELPING ME WITH MY SURGERY,

00:20:20.299 --> 00:20:22.299
HELP TAKING CARE
OF ME, ALL THE THINGS.

00:20:22.399 --> 00:20:26.833
AND ALONG THE WAY, AS
WE'RE JUST FRIENDS,

00:20:26.933 --> 00:20:29.966
IT WAS LIKE WE STARTED CROSSING
BOUNDARIES EMOTIONALLY.

00:20:30.066 --> 00:20:31.499
PHYSICALLY.


00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:32.133
AND QUICKLY.


00:20:32.233 --> 00:20:33.333
SOMETHING THAT WAS PURE,


00:20:33.433 --> 00:20:35.600
SOMETHING THAT WAS A
GODSEND OF A FRIENDSHIP

00:20:35.700 --> 00:20:38.432
BECAME PERVERTED AND BECAME
SOMETHING THAT GOD

00:20:38.532 --> 00:20:39.766
DIDN'T
INTEND IT TO BE.

00:20:39.866 --> 00:20:42.233
AND BEFORE I KNEW IT,
IT WAS LIKE I WOKE UP ONE DAY

00:20:42.333 --> 00:20:45.766
AND REALIZED, I'M IN A
HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP

00:20:45.866 --> 00:20:48.900
AND I NEVER IN MY WILDEST
IMAGINATION THOUGHT THAT

00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.033
THIS WOULD BE THE THING
THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO MY LIFE.

00:20:52.133 --> 00:20:54.166
NEVER STRUGGLED
WITH SAME-SEX ATTRACTION.

00:20:54.266 --> 00:20:56.000
THAT WAS NEVER
A PART OF MY JOURNEY.

00:20:56.100 --> 00:20:56.966
STILL HAVEN'T.


00:20:57.066 --> 00:20:58.266
NEVER BEEN A PART
OF MY JOURNEY.

00:20:58.366 --> 00:21:00.533
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S
BEEN A TEMPTATION.

00:21:00.633 --> 00:21:05.600
IT WAS LITERALLY A FRIENDSHIP
THAT JUST TURNED TOXIC,

00:21:05.700 --> 00:21:07.166
BECAUSE WE
WERE BOTH JUST IN A BAD PLACE.

00:21:07.266 --> 00:21:10.766
WE WERE BOTH UNHEALTHY,
AND THAT SEASON OF LIFE,

00:21:10.866 --> 00:21:11.899
AND IT'S KIND
OF INTERESTING.

00:21:11.999 --> 00:21:16.032
I MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW
WHO HAVE THIS SAME STORY

00:21:16.132 --> 00:21:19.399
WHERE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY
IDENTIFY AS A HOMOSEXUAL

00:21:19.499 --> 00:21:20.866
OR SOMEBODY
IN THAT LIFESTYLE,

00:21:20.966 --> 00:21:23.399
OR SOMEBODY THAT STRUGGLES
WITH SAME-SEX ATTRACTION,

00:21:23.499 --> 00:21:26.433
BUT THEY FIND THEMSELVES
IN AN UNHEALTHY FRIENDSHIP

00:21:26.533 --> 00:21:29.832
WHERE FRIENDSHIP BECOMES
CODEPENDENT OR TOXIC

00:21:29.932 --> 00:21:32.066
AND THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT
HOW THEY ENDED UP THERE.

00:21:32.166 --> 00:21:33.900
AND THEN THE ENEMY
PLAYS ON IT AND SAYS,

00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:37.633
WELL, YOU MUST BE GAY BECAUSE
YOU ARE IN THIS RELATIONSHIP

00:21:37.733 --> 00:21:38.533
NOW.


00:21:38.633 --> 00:21:41.066
AND SO THAT'S
WHAT HAPPENED TO ME,

00:21:41.166 --> 00:21:45.299
IT'S A PRETTY MAJOR PART
OF MY COLLEGE STORY.

00:21:45.399 --> 00:21:49.633
I WAS ON THE VERY TAIL END
OF MY COLLEGE LIFE, AND,

00:21:49.733 --> 00:21:52.933
DEFINITELY I WAS AFRAID,
I FELT LIKE I WAS TRAPPED.

00:21:53.033 --> 00:21:55.899
I FELT LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO
GET OUT OF THAT RELATIONSHIP,

00:21:55.999 --> 00:21:57.100
BECAUSE
I WAS FOLLOWING JESUS.

00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.700
IT WASN'T LIKE I WAS
NOT WALKING WITH THE LORD

00:21:59.800 --> 00:22:02.499
AND WAS JUST LIVING
A LIFESTYLE OF SIN.

00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:03.200
IT WAS,


00:22:03.300 --> 00:22:04.833
I WAS PURSUING GOD.


00:22:04.933 --> 00:22:06.600
I WAS IN LOVE
WITH THE LORD.

00:22:06.700 --> 00:22:09.000
BUT I FOUND MYSELF IN A SEASON
WHERE I WAS REALLY OFFENDED

00:22:09.100 --> 00:22:11.399
AT GOD, OFFENDED
AT THE PEOPLE,

00:22:11.499 --> 00:22:15.699
THE FRIENDSHIPS IN MY LIFE,
AND I WAS REALLY VULNERABLE

00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:17.099
BECAUSE OF THE INJURY.


00:22:17.199 --> 00:22:20.366
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S
THIS MOMENT IN THE BIBLE

00:22:20.466 --> 00:22:24.132
WHERE IT SAYS THAT JESUS WAS
BEING TEMPTED IN THE WILDERNESS,

00:22:24.232 --> 00:22:28.699
AND IT SAYS THAT SATAN LEFT
UNTIL A MORE OPPORTUNE TIME.

00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.733
THAT SCRIPTURE LETS ME
KNOW THAT THE ENEMY IS

00:22:30.833 --> 00:22:33.399
AWARE OF OPPORTUNE
TIMES IN OUR LIFE.

00:22:33.499 --> 00:22:35.066
AND THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNE
TIME IN MY LIFE.

00:22:35.166 --> 00:22:37.566
I WAS VERY VULNERABLE,
I WAS WEAK, I WAS OFFENDED,

00:22:37.666 --> 00:22:40.399
I WAS SAD, I WAS
DISCONNECTED FROM COMMUNITY,

00:22:40.499 --> 00:22:44.032
AND THE ENEMY
JUMPED IN IN A VULNERABLE MOMENT

00:22:44.132 --> 00:22:45.066
IN MY LIFE.


00:22:45.166 --> 00:22:46.733
REBECCA: AND THAT'S WHAT
HE ALWAYS DOES.

00:22:46.833 --> 00:22:49.266
AND I AM GLAD YOU SET
THE STAGE FOR THAT MOMENT,

00:22:49.366 --> 00:22:52.066
BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ON
YOUR RADAR, BUT YOU,

00:22:52.166 --> 00:22:55.032
I REMEMBER YOU SAYING THAT YOUR
CHURCH COMMUNITY WAS FAR AWAY

00:22:55.132 --> 00:22:55.866
AND HERE YOU ARE.


00:22:55.966 --> 00:22:57.066
YOU WERE LOVING SOMETHING.


00:22:57.166 --> 00:22:58.966
THAT DREAM IS OVER.


00:22:59.066 --> 00:23:00.699
AND YOU'RE
ALL ON YOUR OWN.

00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.900
AND SHE WAS THE ONE
PERSON TO COME STEP IN.

00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:06.666
AND SO YOU WERE HURT BY
THE PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T THERE.

00:23:06.766 --> 00:23:09.166
AND HERE YOU WERE IN
YOUR OWN CHILDHOOD.

00:23:09.266 --> 00:23:10.533
YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT.


00:23:10.633 --> 00:23:13.333
AND SO I ALMOST WONDER IF THAT
ALMOST TRIGGERED THAT OLD STUFF,

00:23:13.433 --> 00:23:15.232
AS WELL, WHICH
MADE YOU OPEN TO

00:23:15.332 --> 00:23:18.133
HERE'S THIS PERSON
BEING A GOOD FRIEND.

00:23:18.233 --> 00:23:20.466
AND THEN THE NEXT THING
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING,

00:23:20.566 --> 00:23:23.100
IT CAN LEAD TO SOMETHING LIKE
THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST,

00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.033
THE HEART KNOWS THAT
IT NEEDS SOMETHING,

00:23:25.133 --> 00:23:27.600
BUT THE SOUL ISN'T GOOD AT
FIGURING OUT WHAT IT IS.

00:23:27.700 --> 00:23:30.466
JASMINE: YES, OR HOW TO GET IT
OR WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

00:23:30.566 --> 00:23:31.666
YEAH, YEAH.


00:23:31.766 --> 00:23:34.066
REBECCA: THE BIBLE SAYS THE
HEART IS OVERLY, I THINK,

00:23:34.166 --> 00:23:34.999
DECEPTIVE AND ALL THESE.


00:23:35.099 --> 00:23:36.832
SO WE CAN'T
TRUST OUR SOULS.

00:23:36.932 --> 00:23:38.900
AND I THINK THAT'S
SUCH AN IMPORTANT JOURNEY

00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.533
AND SUCH AN IMPORTANT, I MEAN,
SUCH AN IMPORTANT TESTIMONY

00:23:41.633 --> 00:23:45.699
TO SHARE, TO HELP PEOPLE SEE,
TO BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON

00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.899
IN THEIR HEARTS
AND ALSO TO UNDERSTAND

00:23:48.999 --> 00:23:51.366
THAT EVEN IF YOU GO
THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS,

00:23:51.466 --> 00:23:53.399
THAT DOESN'T
MAKE YOU WHO YOU ARE.

00:23:53.499 --> 00:23:55.633
WE ARE NOT
THE SINS WE COMMIT.

00:23:55.733 --> 00:23:58.199
WE ARE WHO WE ARE
IN CHRIST.

00:23:58.299 --> 00:24:00.366
AND I THINK ONE OF THE
IMPORTANT THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT

00:24:00.466 --> 00:24:04.366
IS HOW THE ENEMY, WHICH HAS
DONE THIS TO ME IN MY LIFE

00:24:04.466 --> 00:24:06.033
WITH DIFFERENT THINGS,
AS WELL,

00:24:06.133 --> 00:24:09.299
HE'LL TRY TO COME IN AND WHISPER
LIES TO YOU ABOUT YOUR IDENTITY,

00:24:09.399 --> 00:24:11.733
BECAUSE HE WANTS YOU TO
COME INTO AGREEMENT WITH THAT,

00:24:11.833 --> 00:24:13.332
BECAUSE WHAT YOU
BELIEVE ABOUT YOURSELF

00:24:13.432 --> 00:24:14.666
IS HOW
YOU'LL LIVE OUT YOUR LIFE.

00:24:14.766 --> 00:24:15.899
JASMINE: YES.


00:24:15.999 --> 00:24:17.266
REBECCA: AND SO WHAT DID HE DO
TO YOU IN THOSE MOMENTS

00:24:17.366 --> 00:24:18.566
WHEN YOU WERE
STRUGGLING WITH THIS?

00:24:18.666 --> 00:24:19.599
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:24:19.699 --> 00:24:22.100
I MEAN, I REMEMBER, I
DISTINCTLY REMEMBER

00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:25.899
MOMENTS WHILE I WAS IN
THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS GIRL

00:24:25.999 --> 00:24:29.732
WHERE I WOULD HEAR THIS VOICE
OF THE ENEMY SAYING,

00:24:29.832 --> 00:24:30.533
WELL, LOOK AT YOU.


00:24:30.633 --> 00:24:31.499
YOU MUST BE GAY.


00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:32.133
WELL, LOOK AT YOU.


00:24:32.233 --> 00:24:32.932
YOU MUST BE A LESBIAN.


00:24:33.032 --> 00:24:34.166
WELL, LOOK AT YOU.


00:24:34.266 --> 00:24:37.166
YOU MUST BE, YOU KNOW, AND
I REMEMBER JUST FEELING LIKE

00:24:37.266 --> 00:24:38.499
IT WOULD BE
LIKE THE WHOLE,

00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.433
IT'S LIKE I COULD FEEL THE
HOLY SPIRIT COMING UP AND, LIKE,

00:24:41.533 --> 00:24:43.466
DEFENDING ME.


00:24:43.566 --> 00:24:44.599
LIKE, ABSOLUTELY NOT.


00:24:44.699 --> 00:24:46.066
WE'RE NOT GOING
TO DO THAT.

00:24:46.166 --> 00:24:47.300
YOU KNOW?


00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:51.333
AND IT WAS LIKE I COULD NEVER
QUITE MAKE AN AGREEMENT

00:24:51.433 --> 00:24:54.999
WITH THAT OPTION,
WITH THAT STATEMENT,

00:24:55.099 --> 00:24:57.766
WITH THAT LIE, YOU KNOW,
AND I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THAT.

00:24:57.866 --> 00:25:01.200
AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT
EVERYBODY'S STORY, BUT,

00:25:01.300 --> 00:25:02.333
FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE
THE LORD KEPT ME

00:25:02.433 --> 00:25:03.533
FROM MAKING AN AGREEMENT.


00:25:03.633 --> 00:25:04.600
REBECCA: HE PROTECTED YOU.


00:25:04.700 --> 00:25:05.166
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:25:05.266 --> 00:25:06.766
I REALLY FEEL THAT.


00:25:06.866 --> 00:25:10.799
AND I THINK MY JOURNEY MIGHT
HAVE LOOKED A LITTLE DIFFERENT

00:25:10.899 --> 00:25:13.266
IF I WOULD HAVE MADE AGREEMENT
WITH THAT STATEMENT

00:25:13.366 --> 00:25:14.966
AT THAT TIME
OF MY LIFE,

00:25:15.066 --> 00:25:16.433
REBECCA: BECAUSE THE
BATTLEGROUND IS IN THE MIND.

00:25:16.533 --> 00:25:17.699
JASMINE: YES.


00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:19.566
REBECCA: AND HE KNEW
THE WEAK PARTS.

00:25:19.666 --> 00:25:22.666
HE KNEW THE HURTS WITHIN YOUR
OWN HEART AND IN YOUR OWN SOUL,

00:25:22.766 --> 00:25:24.133
AND HOW YOU
WERE VULNERABLE TO THAT.

00:25:24.233 --> 00:25:25.666
AND I THINK THAT'S
WHY I SAID, AGAIN,

00:25:25.766 --> 00:25:28.600
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET INNER
HEALING AND THAT WE LEARN

00:25:28.700 --> 00:25:29.633
THROUGH THESE.


00:25:29.733 --> 00:25:30.933
AND YOU CAN ONLY LEARN
THROUGH EXPERIENCE.

00:25:31.033 --> 00:25:33.900
AND GOD, YOU KNOW, THROUGH
THESE THINGS WE GO THROUGH,

00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.866
HE CAN SHINE THE
LIGHT ON IT AND SAY, OKAY,

00:25:35.966 --> 00:25:36.766
LET'S DEAL WITH THIS NOW.


00:25:36.866 --> 00:25:37.999
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:25:38.099 --> 00:25:39.199
REBECCA: YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT
UNTIL LATER ON IN LIFE

00:25:39.299 --> 00:25:41.399
AND OUR OLD STUFF
RISES UP TO THE SURFACE.

00:25:41.499 --> 00:25:44.066
YOU'RE LIKE, OH,
THAT WAS THERE.

00:25:44.166 --> 00:25:45.133
AND HE'S LIKE, YEP.


00:25:45.233 --> 00:25:46.032
AND NOW IT'S TIME TO
DEAL WITH IT.

00:25:46.132 --> 00:25:46.966
JASMINE: FOR SURE.


00:25:47.066 --> 00:25:49.166
REBECCA: OKAY. SO YOU'RE
WITH THIS GIRL.

00:25:49.266 --> 00:25:52.800
AND DID SHE FEEL
CONVICTED AT ALL

00:25:52.900 --> 00:25:54.066
OR SHE
HADN'T COME TO THE LORD YET?

00:25:54.166 --> 00:25:55.899
JASMINE: NO, SHE WASN'T
A FOLLOWER OF JESUS YET.

00:25:55.999 --> 00:25:57.500
SHE WASN'T
A CHRISTIAN YET.

00:25:57.600 --> 00:25:58.432
REBECCA: BUT YOU WERE
FEELING IT.

00:25:58.532 --> 00:25:59.032
JASMINE: OH, YEAH.


00:25:59.132 --> 00:26:00.100
YEAH, I WAS.


00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:01.000
REBECCA: BECAUSE YOU WERE
FOLLOWING THE LORD?

00:26:01.100 --> 00:26:01.966
JASMINE: YES.


00:26:02.066 --> 00:26:03.466
SO THAT CONVICTION
WAS ALIVE AND WELL.

00:26:03.566 --> 00:26:05.333
AND I WILL HONESTLY SAY
IT FELT LIKE THE CONVICTION

00:26:05.433 --> 00:26:09.032
WAS LESSENING THE MORE
THAT I REJECTED IT.

00:26:09.132 --> 00:26:10.600
REBECCA: THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.


00:26:10.700 --> 00:26:12.900
IT'S LIKE THE TURNING
OF THE HEART OR THE HARDENING

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.166
OF THE HEART.


00:26:14.266 --> 00:26:16.766
AND WHEN YOU WONDER WHEN YOU SEE
BELIEVERS WHO GO FULL ON IT,

00:26:16.866 --> 00:26:19.699
THAT'S WHY, IT'S THAT'S WHY
THIS STORY IS SO IMPORTANT,

00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:21.933
BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS
TO SO MANY BELIEVERS.

00:26:22.033 --> 00:26:24.033
IT'S JUST APATHY AND
HARDENING IN OUR HEART.

00:26:24.133 --> 00:26:25.566
AND THEN YOU JUST
COMPLETELY GROW COLD

00:26:25.666 --> 00:26:26.733
AND TURN AWAY
FROM THE LORD.

00:26:26.833 --> 00:26:30.633
THANK GOD WE CAN,
IN THE MOMENT OF THAT HAPPENING,

00:26:30.733 --> 00:26:33.133
WE CAN REPENT AT ANY PART
OF THAT STAGE AND TURN BACK.

00:26:33.233 --> 00:26:34.266
JASMINE: YES.


00:26:34.366 --> 00:26:35.666
REBECCA: AND SOMETIMES GOD
HAS TO DO SOME THINGS

00:26:35.766 --> 00:26:37.699
TO GET OUR ATTENTION,
THANK GOD.

00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:39.332
JASMINE: YES, I'M SO THANKFUL.


00:26:39.432 --> 00:26:40.500
REBECCA: AND GOD
GOT YOUR ATTENTION

00:26:40.600 --> 00:26:42.033
BECAUSE YOU
ACTUALLY ASKED FOR HELP.

00:26:42.133 --> 00:26:45.333
JASMINE: YEAH, YEAH, I FELT LIKE
I WAS AT MY ROCK BOTTOM.

00:26:45.433 --> 00:26:50.366
AND FOR ME, THAT ROCK BOTTOM
WAS THIS YOUNG LADY

00:26:50.466 --> 00:26:52.366
STARTED ASKING ME
ABOUT THE LORD.

00:26:52.466 --> 00:26:53.766
REBECCA: OH, RIGHT.


00:26:53.832 --> 00:26:54.733
I WOULD BE DYING.


00:26:54.833 --> 00:26:55.866
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:26:55.966 --> 00:26:59.299
AND SO HERE I AM, A LITTLE
EVANGELIST ON MY CAMPUS,

00:26:59.399 --> 00:27:01.666
AND I'M IN THIS SCENARIO,
AND THE GIRL THAT THE LORD

00:27:01.766 --> 00:27:06.733
TOLD ME THAT HE WANTED HER, NOW
SHE'S ASKING ME ABOUT THE LORD.

00:27:06.833 --> 00:27:09.399
AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I
COULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT

00:27:09.499 --> 00:27:12.633
BECAUSE I WAS A STUMBLING BLOCK
KEEPING HER IN SIN.

00:27:12.733 --> 00:27:15.099
AND SO I'M LIKE, I CAN'T
TELL HER ABOUT JESUS

00:27:15.199 --> 00:27:18.366
WHILE I'M
IN THIS MESS WITH HER.

00:27:18.466 --> 00:27:20.366
AND SO THAT WAS
LIKE, LIKE THAT.

00:27:20.466 --> 00:27:23.066
THAT REALLY HIT ME HARD
AS SHE, WHEN SHE STARTED

00:27:23.166 --> 00:27:24.366
ASKING ME
ABOUT THE LORD.

00:27:24.466 --> 00:27:27.999
AND SO ONE DAY I JUST SAID,
LORD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO,

00:27:28.099 --> 00:27:30.932
BUT YOUR WORD SAYS THAT
WHEN WE ARE IN TEMPTATION,

00:27:31.032 --> 00:27:32.366
THAT
TEMPTATION WILL COME,

00:27:32.466 --> 00:27:33.766
AND WHEN IT COMES THAT
YOU WILL PROVIDE,

00:27:33.866 --> 00:27:36.599
YOU WILL ALWAYS
PROVIDE A WAY OUT.

00:27:36.699 --> 00:27:39.232
AND SO I SAID, WELL, LORD,
I GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO,

00:27:39.332 --> 00:27:41.733
YES, PROVIDE A WAY OUT,
LIKE I WANT TO FIND IT.

00:27:41.833 --> 00:27:42.966
HELP ME SEE IT.


00:27:43.066 --> 00:27:46.933
BUT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING
YOU WANT TO DO TO MAKE THAT WAY.

00:27:47.033 --> 00:27:49.066
SO I'M LIKE, YOU CAN
GIVE SOMEBODY A DREAM,

00:27:49.166 --> 00:27:50.333
A PROPHETIC WORD.


00:27:50.433 --> 00:27:53.166
YOU CAN WRITE IT ON A
BILLBOARD, PUT IT IN THE CLOUDS,

00:27:53.266 --> 00:27:58.666
LIKE WHATEVER IT
TAKES TO MAKE A WAY FOR ME OUT,

00:27:58.766 --> 00:28:01.166
BECAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL
LIKE I COULD GET OUT ON MY OWN.

00:28:01.266 --> 00:28:03.832
I NEEDED A WAY TO GET OUT.


00:28:03.932 --> 00:28:07.066
AND SO THE NEXT DAY, A
FRIEND OF MINE CALLED ME

00:28:07.166 --> 00:28:09.699
AND SHE WAS LIKE, HEY,
I KNOW THIS IS REALLY RANDOM.

00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:15.133
I HAD A DREAM ABOUT YOU
LAST NIGHT, AND SHE SAYS,

00:28:15.233 --> 00:28:17.166
IT'S PROBABLY
SYMBOLIC OF SOMETHING ELSE

00:28:17.266 --> 00:28:19.266
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU NEVER
STRUGGLE WITH THIS,

00:28:19.366 --> 00:28:21.433
BUT I HAD A DREAM THAT YOU WERE
IN THIS RELATIONSHIP

00:28:21.533 --> 00:28:22.700
WITH THIS GIRL.


00:28:22.800 --> 00:28:24.733
SHE DESCRIBES THE GIRL,
TELLS ME HER NAME,

00:28:24.833 --> 00:28:27.932
AND TELLS ME A SCENE OF
A PLACE THAT WE WERE TOGETHER.

00:28:28.032 --> 00:28:30.066
AND I KNEW.


00:28:30.166 --> 00:28:31.199
REBECCA: WERE YOU
TRIPPING OUT?

00:28:31.299 --> 00:28:34.033
JASMINE: I WAS TRIPPING,
I'M LIKE, THIS IS THE WAY.

00:28:34.133 --> 00:28:36.833
LIKE SHE JUST, THE LORD
JUST MADE A WAY OUT

00:28:36.933 --> 00:28:38.766
THROUGH THIS GIRL'S DREAM.


00:28:38.866 --> 00:28:43.000
AND HE KNEW I
NEEDED IT LIKE THAT.

00:28:43.100 --> 00:28:44.766
AND SO SHE'S LIKE, YEAH,
IT'S PROBABLY SYMBOLIC.

00:28:44.866 --> 00:28:45.866
WHAT DO YOU
THINK IT MEANS?

00:28:45.966 --> 00:28:47.433
AND I WAS LIKE, NO, NO,
NO, IT'S NOT SYMBOLIC.

00:28:47.533 --> 00:28:50.533
I TOLD GOD I WOULD
TAKE THE WAY OUT IF HE GAVE IT.

00:28:50.633 --> 00:28:51.733
THIS IS MY WAY OUT.


00:28:51.833 --> 00:28:53.933
AND I BEGIN TO TELL HER
EVERYTHING THAT HAD HAPPENED,

00:28:54.033 --> 00:28:55.199
EVERYTHING
THAT WAS HAPPENING.

00:28:55.299 --> 00:28:56.832
I JUST BROUGHT IT
INTO THE LIGHT.

00:28:56.932 --> 00:28:59.533
AND SHE RESPONDED
SO BEAUTIFULLY.

00:28:59.633 --> 00:29:02.166
IT WAS LIKE THE PERFECT
PERSON THAT IT WAS

00:29:02.266 --> 00:29:04.300
THE MOST PERFECT PERSON
THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN.

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:05.133
AND SO I TOLD
HER EVERYTHING.

00:29:05.233 --> 00:29:06.566
SHE RESPONDED
SO BEAUTIFULLY.

00:29:06.666 --> 00:29:09.899
AND THEN SHE HELPED ME
BRING IT TO, SOME OF MY LEADERS

00:29:09.999 --> 00:29:11.966
IN MY LIFE;
FRIENDS, FAMILY,

00:29:12.066 --> 00:29:14.233
PEOPLE THAT I WAS RUNNING WITH
IN MY COMMUNITY.

00:29:14.333 --> 00:29:16.400
I JUST STARTED GETTING IT
IN THE LIGHT,

00:29:16.500 --> 00:29:19.199
AND THE MORE I BROUGHT IT INTO
THE LIGHT, THE MORE FREEDOM

00:29:19.299 --> 00:29:22.333
THERE WAS AND THE MORE IT
ALLOWED ME AND THIS OTHER GIRL

00:29:22.433 --> 00:29:23.733
TO WALK IN FREEDOM.


00:29:23.833 --> 00:29:25.500
AND IT WAS REALLY COOL.


00:29:25.600 --> 00:29:28.833
I EVENTUALLY WENT BACK SUPER
IMMEDIATELY WENT TO THE GIRL.

00:29:28.933 --> 00:29:31.233
I TOLD HER, HEY,
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.

00:29:31.333 --> 00:29:33.966
TOLD HER ABOUT THE DREAM,
AND I SAID, THIS IS NOT

00:29:34.066 --> 00:29:37.532
GOD'S BEST FOR YOU AND
IT'S NOT GOD'S BEST FOR ME,

00:29:37.632 --> 00:29:41.799
AND WE CAN'T
DO THIS ANYMORE.

00:29:41.899 --> 00:29:44.532
AND SO I GOT A CHANCE
TO TELL HER THE GOSPEL.

00:29:44.632 --> 00:29:46.033
SHE GAVE HER
LIFE TO JESUS.

00:29:46.133 --> 00:29:48.199
I GOT A CHANCE TO BE
A PART OF HER BAPTISM.

00:29:48.299 --> 00:29:50.299
AND THE LORD, LITERALLY,


00:29:50.399 --> 00:29:53.500
IT WAS JUST A MIRACLE
OF WHAT HE DID.

00:29:53.600 --> 00:29:54.433
REBECCA: WOW.


00:29:54.533 --> 00:29:56.266
JASMINE: AND HONESTLY,
LIKE, I THOUGHT,

00:29:56.366 --> 00:29:57.566
AND THIS IS A
WHOLE 'NOTHER TOPIC,

00:29:57.666 --> 00:29:58.833
BUT
I REALLY THOUGHT I COULD

00:29:58.933 --> 00:30:01.433
HELP DISCIPLE HER
TO THE LORD.

00:30:01.533 --> 00:30:03.666
IT WAS FOOLISHNESS.


00:30:03.766 --> 00:30:06.000
AND SO WHAT ENDED UP
HAPPENING IS --

00:30:06.100 --> 00:30:07.233
JASMINE: YEAH, YEAH.


00:30:07.333 --> 00:30:08.800
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
MAYBE FALL INTO THAT TRAP.

00:30:08.900 --> 00:30:09.866
REBECCA: YEP.


00:30:09.966 --> 00:30:11.400
JASMINE: AND, I THOUGHT I
COULD DISCIPLE HER.

00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:15.366
AND SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS
THERE WAS MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD

00:30:15.466 --> 00:30:17.466
WHERE WE WOULD FALL AGAIN
OR FALL AGAIN

00:30:17.566 --> 00:30:20.633
BECAUSE I WAS, THE
BIBLE TALKS ABOUT

00:30:20.733 --> 00:30:23.332
NOT MAKING PROVISION
FOR YOUR FLESH.

00:30:23.432 --> 00:30:24.599
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:30:24.699 --> 00:30:27.032
JASMINE: AND SO HERE I AM FOR
HOWEVER MANY MONTHS IT WAS

00:30:27.132 --> 00:30:29.499
WITH HER
BOUND IN THE SIN.

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.699
AND SO THEN
WE STEP OUT OF IT.

00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:33.700
BUT THEN I KEEP PUTTING
MYSELF IN A POSITION

00:30:33.800 --> 00:30:35.099
WHERE I DON'T HAVE
A RENEWED MIND.

00:30:35.199 --> 00:30:36.533
I HAVEN'T BEEN HEALED.


00:30:36.633 --> 00:30:39.166
I HAVEN'T LIKE WORKED THROUGH
EVERYTHING WITH THE LORD YET,

00:30:39.266 --> 00:30:41.466
AND I KEEP PUTTING MYSELF BACK
IN THE SAME POSITION.

00:30:41.566 --> 00:30:43.700
AND SO WE FELL A FEW MORE
TIMES AFTER THAT,

00:30:43.800 --> 00:30:46.333
AND IT WAS PROBABLY
A TOTAL OF ABOUT TWO YEARS

00:30:46.433 --> 00:30:50.766
WHERE IT TOOK ME TO, WHERE I
FELT LIKE I WAS COMPLETELY FREE

00:30:50.866 --> 00:30:52.366
FROM EVERYTHING THAT HAD
HAPPENED, WHERE I FELT LIKE

00:30:52.466 --> 00:30:55.466
I WAS COMPLETELY WHOLE AND
HEALED FROM THE WHOLE SITUATION.

00:30:55.566 --> 00:30:57.133
BUT IT WAS A PROCESS.


00:30:57.233 --> 00:30:58.166
I HAD TO SAY,


00:30:58.266 --> 00:31:01.232
I HAD TO COMPLETELY
SHUT DOWN THE FRIENDSHIP

00:31:01.332 --> 00:31:03.066
AND SAY, HEY, I'M SORRY,
SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO

00:31:03.166 --> 00:31:05.066
HAVE TO WALK YOU
THROUGH DISCIPLESHIP

00:31:05.166 --> 00:31:06.000
AND WALK YOU
THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

00:31:06.100 --> 00:31:09.032
I CAN'T TAKE IT,
TAKE YOU FROM HERE.

00:31:09.132 --> 00:31:10.299
SOMEBODY ELSE
WILL DO IT.

00:31:10.399 --> 00:31:13.032
I TRUST GOD, I TRUST THAT
HE WILL RAISE UP SOMEBODY ELSE.

00:31:13.132 --> 00:31:15.132
HE LOVES YOU MORE
THAN I CARE ABOUT YOU.

00:31:15.232 --> 00:31:21.000
HE CARES MORE THAN I CARE,
AND SO, KIND OF CUT THAT OFF.

00:31:21.100 --> 00:31:25.666
AND THEN BEGAN MY OWN PERSONAL
PROCESS OF JUST HEALING.

00:31:25.766 --> 00:31:27.999
AND EVERY TIME I HAD A
TEMPTATION OR A THOUGHT,

00:31:28.099 --> 00:31:30.099
I WOULD BRING IT UP TO
A FRIEND OR SOMEBODY

00:31:30.199 --> 00:31:32.166
AND JUST SAY, HEY, I HAD THIS
THOUGHT, HAD THIS DESIRE

00:31:32.266 --> 00:31:34.466
COME UP, CERTAIN SONGS,
CERTAIN MOVIES

00:31:34.566 --> 00:31:36.400
THAT I WOULD JUST BE LIKE,
NOPE, CAN'T WATCH THAT,

00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:39.866
CAN'T LISTEN TO THAT, HAD TO
GET VIOLENT ABOUT MY FREEDOM.

00:31:39.966 --> 00:31:42.733
AND I'M THANKFUL TO SAY THE LORD
HAS DONE IT OVER THE YEARS.

00:31:42.833 --> 00:31:44.799
AND, I THOUGHT IT WAS,


00:31:44.899 --> 00:31:48.766
I THOUGHT IT WOULD AFFECT
MY MARRIAGE TODAY.

00:31:48.866 --> 00:31:50.032
I JUST HAD THIS THING
IN ME WHERE I'M LIKE,

00:31:50.132 --> 00:31:52.299
THIS MIGHT AFFECT THINGS DOWN
THE ROAD, AND I'M SO HAPPY

00:31:52.399 --> 00:31:55.133
TO SAY, GOD REALLY HAS
DONE A BEAUTIFUL,

00:31:55.233 --> 00:31:57.699
DEEP WORK OF
RESTORATION AND HEALING,

00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.199
AND IT HASN'T
AFFECTED OUR MARRIAGE.

00:31:59.299 --> 00:32:01.399
AND THAT'S
A MIRACLE TO ME.

00:32:01.499 --> 00:32:02.700
SO, YEAH.


00:32:02.800 --> 00:32:03.799
REBECCA: THERE'S
SO MANY GOOD THINGS

00:32:03.899 --> 00:32:05.033
TO JUST
UNPACK FROM THAT.

00:32:05.133 --> 00:32:08.933
I JUST LOVE HEARING A
STORY WHERE PEOPLE ARE HONEST,

00:32:09.033 --> 00:32:11.400
BECAUSE FOR SO
MANY OF US, IT IS A PROCESS.

00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:14.799
AND FOR SO MANY OF US,
WE DO FALL BACK INTO SIN.

00:32:14.899 --> 00:32:17.366
AND THE BEAUTIFUL THING
IS, AND WHAT I LOVED IS

00:32:17.466 --> 00:32:19.533
THAT YOU GOT, YOU SAID YOU
GOT INTO COMMUNITY

00:32:19.633 --> 00:32:20.899
AND YOU BROUGHT IT
INTO THE LIGHT.

00:32:20.999 --> 00:32:22.499
WHEN YOU HAD
TORN YOUR ACL,

00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.766
WHAT CAME TO ME WAS
YOU WERE IN ISOLATION.

00:32:24.866 --> 00:32:26.666
AND WHEN YOU ARE IN
ISOLATION, THAT IS WHEN

00:32:26.766 --> 00:32:27.999
YOU ARE
THE MOST VULNERABLE.

00:32:28.099 --> 00:32:30.666
THAT'S WHY THE DEVIL
WANTS TO ISOLATE PEOPLE,

00:32:30.766 --> 00:32:32.033
ISOLATE PEOPLE
FROM THE CHURCH.

00:32:32.133 --> 00:32:34.966
A LOT OF TIMES, HE USES CHURCH
HURT AND PEOPLE GET OFFENDED.

00:32:35.066 --> 00:32:35.999
THEY PUT THEIR WALLS UP


00:32:36.099 --> 00:32:37.499
AND THAT'S WHEN
THEY'RE THE MOST VULNERABLE.

00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.232
WHEN JESUS WENT OUT INTO
THE WILDERNESS TO BE TEMPTED,

00:32:40.332 --> 00:32:41.966
HE WAS BY HIMSELF.


00:32:42.066 --> 00:32:43.966
AND SO I JUST THINK
IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL.

00:32:44.066 --> 00:32:45.499
AND IT JUST MAKES ME THINK
OF THAT VERSE IN JOHN,

00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.666
IT SAYS, IF WE HAVE
FELLOWSHIP IN THE LIGHT,

00:32:47.766 --> 00:32:50.299
IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT
AS JESUS IS IN THE LIGHT,

00:32:50.399 --> 00:32:52.899
AND IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS,
HE WILL BE FAITHFUL

00:32:52.999 --> 00:32:55.499
TO CLEANSE US FROM
ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:57.199
AND THAT'S THE THEME,
TO WALK IN THE LIGHT.

00:32:57.299 --> 00:33:00.999
THE MOMENT YOU BRING YOUR
SIN INTO THE LIGHT OF GOD,

00:33:01.099 --> 00:33:04.866
THERE IT JUST EXPOSES IT
AND HAS NO POWER OVER YOU.

00:33:04.966 --> 00:33:06.600
AND SEE, THAT'S
WHAT WAS BEAUTIFUL IS,

00:33:06.700 --> 00:33:09.299
YOU ALLOWED YOURSELF
TO BE VULNERABLE

00:33:09.399 --> 00:33:12.032
AND YOU WERE VULNERABLE WITH THE
RIGHT PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S HUGE

00:33:12.132 --> 00:33:13.266
JASMINE: THAT'S HUGE, TOO, YEAH.


00:33:13.366 --> 00:33:14.899
REBECCA: AND THEN ANOTHER HUGE
THING IS YOU HAD TO LEARN

00:33:14.999 --> 00:33:16.366
BOUNDARIES.


00:33:16.466 --> 00:33:19.099
IT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY
PERSON IS FOR EVERY SEASON.

00:33:19.199 --> 00:33:23.132
AND I THINK IT IN MINISTRY
YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL

00:33:23.232 --> 00:33:25.066
BECAUSE YOUR HEART
WAS TO HELP HER.

00:33:25.166 --> 00:33:26.199
JASMINE: YES.


00:33:26.299 --> 00:33:27.166
REBECCA: BUT YOU TWO
WEREN'T IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

00:33:27.266 --> 00:33:28.999
YOU COULDN'T
BE THAT TO HER.

00:33:29.099 --> 00:33:31.166
AND THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE
GOD WILL PROVIDE

00:33:31.266 --> 00:33:32.966
THE PEOPLE
TO BE THAT FOR HER.

00:33:33.066 --> 00:33:35.599
AND YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU
NO LONGER HAVE A RELATIONSHIP.

00:33:35.699 --> 00:33:38.833
AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT
FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND

00:33:38.933 --> 00:33:40.999
THAT NOT EVERY PERSON
IS FOR EVERY SEASON.

00:33:41.099 --> 00:33:43.599
AND IT'S OKAY TO, YOU KNOW,
BLESS SOMEONE

00:33:43.699 --> 00:33:46.000
AND LET THEM LIVE THEIR LIVES,
YOU KNOW,

00:33:46.100 --> 00:33:48.733
BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE FOR
A SEASON, SOME PEOPLE ARE FOR,

00:33:48.833 --> 00:33:50.199
YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE LIFERS.

00:33:50.299 --> 00:33:51.600
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL
WITH THE SCHOTTS, YOU KNOW.

00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:52.733
JASMINE: YES.


00:33:52.833 --> 00:33:54.266
REBECCA: SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE
OF THAT, YOU KNOW.

00:33:54.366 --> 00:33:56.533
BUT SO I THINK THAT'S
SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WORD.

00:33:56.633 --> 00:33:57.633
AND PEOPLE ARE LISTENING.


00:33:57.733 --> 00:33:59.133
AND I THINK THIS IS GOING
TO MINISTER TO THEM.

00:33:59.233 --> 00:34:00.833
AND I THINK MAYBE THE
HOLY SPIRIT IS GOING TO START

00:34:00.933 --> 00:34:02.700
SHOWING THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE LISTENING.

00:34:02.800 --> 00:34:05.799
HEY, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE,
YES, IT'S TIME TO END THIS.

00:34:05.899 --> 00:34:06.833
JASMINE: DO IT, LORD.


00:34:06.933 --> 00:34:08.600
REBECCA: AND WHEN YOU GIVE
THAT TO THE LORD.

00:34:08.700 --> 00:34:12.833
BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE
ALLOW PEOPLE TO FILL VOIDS

00:34:12.933 --> 00:34:14.133
IN OUR HEART.


00:34:14.233 --> 00:34:17.200
BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR US BECAUSE
ONLY GOD CAN FILL THE VOID.

00:34:17.300 --> 00:34:19.032
AND AS LONG AS WE
LET THE PEOPLE DO IT,

00:34:19.132 --> 00:34:21.699
HE CAN'T DO THE HEALING AND
THE FIXING AND THE FILLING.

00:34:21.799 --> 00:34:24.133
AND SO WHEN GOD WAS ABLE
TO REMOVE THAT,

00:34:24.233 --> 00:34:26.566
THEN HE GOT STARTED TO
BE ABLE TO WORK ON YOU.

00:34:26.666 --> 00:34:28.332
AND HOW BEAUTIFUL IS THAT,
THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO

00:34:28.432 --> 00:34:30.433
GO THROUGH THAT SEASON OF
BEING SINGLE

00:34:30.533 --> 00:34:32.366
AND LETTING GOD DO THAT DEEP
HEALING SO THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO

00:34:32.466 --> 00:34:34.033
WALK INTO YOUR
MARRIAGE WHOLE?

00:34:34.133 --> 00:34:35.266
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:34:35.366 --> 00:34:36.233
REBECCA: SO THAT'S A WHOLE
'NOTHER TESTIMONY THAT, HEY,

00:34:36.333 --> 00:34:38.466
LOOK, I WAS RAISED IN
THIS BROKEN HOME.

00:34:38.566 --> 00:34:41.066
YOU KNOW, MY FATHER,
I DIDN'T KNOW HIM.

00:34:41.166 --> 00:34:42.733
YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THOSE
YEARS, GOD DID BRING HIM

00:34:42.833 --> 00:34:44.166
BACK INTO YOUR LIFE.


00:34:44.266 --> 00:34:45.132
BUT THAT'S A LOT.


00:34:45.232 --> 00:34:48.333
AND YET YOU ARE
THIS BEAUTIFUL, GLOWING.

00:34:48.433 --> 00:34:49.966
YOU KNOW, I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND.

00:34:50.066 --> 00:34:51.133
YOU'RE HAPPILY MARRIED.


00:34:51.233 --> 00:34:52.933
BUT LOOK AT THE
RESTORATION GOD HAS DONE.

00:34:53.033 --> 00:34:53.866
AND THAT'S THE THING.


00:34:53.966 --> 00:34:55.833
IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHERE YOU COME FROM.

00:34:55.933 --> 00:34:57.899
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU GO
THROUGH OR WHAT YOU DEAL WITH.

00:34:57.999 --> 00:34:59.499
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN PEOPLE
FROM ALL DIFFERENT KINDS

00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:00.499
OF WALKS OF LIFE.


00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:02.799
BUT I'VE SEEN GOD
WHEN HE RESTORES SOMEONE,

00:35:02.899 --> 00:35:04.966
HE WILL FULLY RESTORE THEM
AND THEY CAN LIVE OUT

00:35:05.066 --> 00:35:06.966
THE FULLNESS
OF HIS DESTINY.

00:35:07.066 --> 00:35:09.332
BUT IT'S DEPENDENT ON
THE FULLNESS OF THEIR SURRENDER.

00:35:09.432 --> 00:35:10.799
JASMINE: YEAH, THAT'S SO GOOD.


00:35:10.899 --> 00:35:13.466
REBECCA: TALK ABOUT YOUR DAD.


00:35:13.566 --> 00:35:14.633
AND THEN I WANT TO TALK
ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND.

00:35:14.733 --> 00:35:19.299
JASMINE: YEAH, MY DAD IS
AMAZING, IT'S A TESTIMONY.

00:35:19.399 --> 00:35:20.533
IT'S PART OF THE STORY.


00:35:20.633 --> 00:35:23.233
THAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL, MY
MOM AND DAD, LIKE I SAID BEFORE,

00:35:23.333 --> 00:35:25.133
DIVORCED WHEN
I WAS TWO,

00:35:25.233 --> 00:35:27.732
AND THEN WE DIDN'T REALLY
HAVE CONTACT.

00:35:27.832 --> 00:35:30.833
WE WERE NOT IN EACH OTHER'S
LIVES FOR SEVERAL YEARS

00:35:30.933 --> 00:35:32.400
WHERE HE WOULD CALL
HERE AND THERE.

00:35:32.500 --> 00:35:33.899
WE'D HAVE
PHONE CONVERSATIONS.

00:35:33.999 --> 00:35:37.466
MAYBE ONCE IN A BLUE MOON,
A VISIT OR SOMETHING.

00:35:37.566 --> 00:35:40.533
BUT LIKE, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE
AUTHENTIC RELATIONSHIP.

00:35:40.633 --> 00:35:44.399
AND WHEN I GOT INTO HIGH SCHOOL,
I JUST HAD

00:35:44.499 --> 00:35:47.766
A DESIRE TO HAVE
RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FATHER,

00:35:47.866 --> 00:35:49.266
AND I WAS LIKE,
GOD, YOU CAN DO THIS.

00:35:49.366 --> 00:35:51.366
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

00:35:51.466 --> 00:35:53.433
I KNOW HE'S A
HUMAN, BUT SO AM I.

00:35:53.533 --> 00:35:55.366
AND YOU CAN DO
ANYTHING, YOU KNOW?

00:35:55.466 --> 00:35:56.766
AND SO WE BEGAN.


00:35:56.866 --> 00:35:59.600
I JUST PURSUED RELATIONSHIP WITH
HIM AND WE STARTED BUILDING.

00:35:59.700 --> 00:36:01.066
AND IT'S JUST.


00:36:01.166 --> 00:36:02.333
I DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT TO SAY ABOUT IT.

00:36:02.433 --> 00:36:05.099
LIKE HE WAS IN MY WEDDING,
HE WALKED ME DOWN THE AISLE

00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.899
AND WE DID OUR
DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE TOGETHER.

00:36:07.999 --> 00:36:10.799
AND IT WAS SUCH
A REDEMPTIVE MOMENT.

00:36:10.899 --> 00:36:16.966
AND SO I LOVE WHAT GOD HAS DONE,
BOTH IN FORGIVENESS

00:36:17.066 --> 00:36:17.933
WITH MY STEPDAD.


00:36:18.033 --> 00:36:21.332
YES, BUT ALSO WITH MY
BIOLOGICAL FATHER,

00:36:21.432 --> 00:36:25.066
SO I JUST, WE GOT REDEMPTIVE
STORIES ALL OVER THE PLACE.

00:36:25.166 --> 00:36:26.399
FORGIVENESS.


00:36:26.499 --> 00:36:28.900
REBECCA: YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS JUST
LIKE A FULL-BLOWN REDEMPTION,

00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:29.999
AND I LOVE IT.


00:36:30.099 --> 00:36:32.233
OKAY, SO YOU
MOVED TO TEXAS.

00:36:32.333 --> 00:36:35.666
YOU START PASTORING AT MERCY
CULTURE AS THE WORSHIP PASTOR.

00:36:35.766 --> 00:36:37.566
TELL US ABOUT
HOW YOU MET YOUR HUSBAND.

00:36:37.666 --> 00:36:38.899
JASMINE: YES.


00:36:38.999 --> 00:36:41.032
SO MY HUSBAND IS FROM CANADA.


00:36:41.132 --> 00:36:42.299
REBECCA: CANADIANS ARE GREAT.


00:36:42.399 --> 00:36:43.066
JASMINE: HE'S CANADIAN.


00:36:43.166 --> 00:36:43.599
YEAH.


00:36:43.699 --> 00:36:44.799
YEAH, YEAH.


00:36:44.899 --> 00:36:47.499
SO HE'S CANADIAN AND HE,
THE LORD BROUGHT HIM TO TEXAS

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.900
FOR A SHORT SEASON,
SO WHILE HE WAS HERE,

00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.333
HE TRIED OUT
FOR THE WORSHIP TEAM.

00:36:52.433 --> 00:36:54.233
HE DIDN'T MAKE
THE WORSHIP TEAM.

00:36:54.333 --> 00:36:57.799
OUR LEADERSHIP
TEAM SAID NO.

00:36:57.899 --> 00:36:59.766
BUT WE KNEW HIM AS
CONNER FROM CANADA.

00:36:59.866 --> 00:37:01.100
IT WAS KIND OF
LIKE A JOKE.

00:37:01.200 --> 00:37:02.733
LIKE THIS GUY
CONNER FROM CANADA.

00:37:02.833 --> 00:37:04.299
AND THEN HE POPPED UP
AT A CREATIVE NIGHT,

00:37:04.399 --> 00:37:07.399
WE HAVE A CREATIVE COMMUNITY
AT OUR CHURCH, AND HE CAME

00:37:07.499 --> 00:37:10.233
TO ONE OF OUR CREATIVE NIGHTS,
AND THE LORD GAVE ME

00:37:10.333 --> 00:37:11.066
A WORD FOR HIM.


00:37:11.166 --> 00:37:12.632
AND SO I WENT UP TO HIM.


00:37:12.732 --> 00:37:14.766
DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF IT,
JUST GAVE HIM THIS WORD.

00:37:14.866 --> 00:37:20.232
AND THEN, AT THE END OF THE
NIGHT, HE WAS, HE CAME UP TO ME

00:37:20.332 --> 00:37:22.033
AND WAS LIKE, HEY, DO YOU
NEED HELP WITH ANYTHING?

00:37:22.133 --> 00:37:24.466
IT KIND OF FELT LIKE IT CAME
OUT OF HIS WAY TO ASK ME THAT

00:37:24.566 --> 00:37:25.799
QUESTION, BECAUSE
WE DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER.

00:37:25.899 --> 00:37:26.632
SO I'M LIKE,
WHO IS THIS GUY?

00:37:26.732 --> 00:37:27.799
WHAT IS HE DOING?


00:37:27.899 --> 00:37:30.066
AND I LOOK OVER A FEW MINUTES
LATER AND HE'S LIKE,

00:37:30.166 --> 00:37:31.699
PICKING UP
ALL THE CHAIRS.

00:37:31.799 --> 00:37:36.499
IT'S LIKE EVERY CHRISTIAN MEME
ABOUT A GUY THAT LIKES A GIRL,

00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:37.833
YOU KNOW?


00:37:37.933 --> 00:37:38.733
REBECCA: YEAH, AT CHURCH.


00:37:38.833 --> 00:37:40.666
LIKE HOW TO IMPRESS
A CHURCH GIRL.

00:37:40.766 --> 00:37:41.932
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:37:42.032 --> 00:37:44.366
SO HE'S GOT ALL THE CHAIRS
AND HE'S ROLLING THE TABLES AWAY

00:37:44.466 --> 00:37:45.432
AND
DOING ALL THE THINGS.

00:37:45.532 --> 00:37:48.799
AND WE JUST HAD A COUPLE
OF MOMENTS WHERE IT JUST

00:37:48.899 --> 00:37:50.300
KIND OF STOOD OUT
A LITTLE BIT.

00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:51.966
SO BY THE TIME I GOT HOME,
I TOLD MY ROOMMATE,

00:37:52.066 --> 00:37:54.466
ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS, I WAS
LIKE, THERE'S SOMETHING UP

00:37:54.566 --> 00:37:55.533
WITH THIS GUY, CONNER.


00:37:55.633 --> 00:37:57.066
LIKE, I THINK HE HAS EYES
FOR ME OR SOMETHING.

00:37:57.166 --> 00:37:59.099
LIKE, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE DEAL IS.

00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:00.866
AND THEN FAST-FORWARD
A LITTLE BIT LATER.

00:38:00.966 --> 00:38:06.432
MY PASTOR, LANDON SCHOTT, HE
POSTED A BIRTHDAY INSTAGRAM POST

00:38:06.532 --> 00:38:07.066
FOR ME.


00:38:07.166 --> 00:38:08.300
IT WAS A PHOTO OF ME.


00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.533
HE SAID A BUNCH OF KIND
THINGS, AND AT THE VERY END,

00:38:10.633 --> 00:38:12.899
HE SAYS, AND SHE'S
SINGLE, READY TO MINGLE.

00:38:12.999 --> 00:38:14.866
BUT YOU GOT TO COME
THROUGH ME FIRST.

00:38:14.966 --> 00:38:16.032
REBECCA: LOVE IT.


00:38:16.132 --> 00:38:18.066
JASMINE: AND, JUST LIKE IF THERE
WAS A DAD STATEMENT,

00:38:18.166 --> 00:38:20.632
LIKE HE'S BEEN LIKE
A FATHER TO ME.

00:38:20.732 --> 00:38:23.399
AND SO WE'RE JUST LIKE A
DAD STATEMENT, YOU KNOW?

00:38:23.499 --> 00:38:25.299
AND, I WOULD CONSIDER
HIM A SPIRITUAL FATHER.

00:38:25.399 --> 00:38:29.666
SO HE WAS DOING HIS JOB,
YOU KNOW, AND SO,

00:38:29.766 --> 00:38:34.533
CONNER, OR THIS GUY, SENDS A
MESSAGE, A DM IN RESPONSE.

00:38:34.633 --> 00:38:35.199
REBECCA: BOLD.


00:38:35.299 --> 00:38:36.300
JASMINE: AND IT'S BOLD.


00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.799
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE SENDING
A DM TO PASTOR LANDON,

00:38:38.899 --> 00:38:40.566
LIKE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW
PASTOR LANDON, HE'S JUST.

00:38:40.666 --> 00:38:41.366
HE'S JUST BOLD.


00:38:41.466 --> 00:38:43.266
YOU KNOW, HE'S
JUST A BOLD GUY.

00:38:43.366 --> 00:38:46.199
SO YOU GOT TO BE A BOLD GUY
TO SEND A MESSAGE TO HIM.

00:38:46.299 --> 00:38:47.299
YOU KNOW?


00:38:47.399 --> 00:38:48.499
AND SO HE SENDS HIM A
MESSAGE AND IT BASICALLY,

00:38:48.566 --> 00:38:52.933
THE BASIS OF IT IS HE SAYS,
PUT ME IN THE GAME, COACH.

00:38:53.033 --> 00:38:54.833
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.


00:38:54.933 --> 00:38:55.799
DID LANDON TELL YOU?


00:38:55.899 --> 00:38:56.733
JASMINE: OH, YEAH.


00:38:56.833 --> 00:38:58.399
HE SENT ME A SCREENSHOT
IMMEDIATELY.

00:38:58.499 --> 00:38:59.533
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.


00:38:59.633 --> 00:39:01.132
JASMINE: HE SENDS ME
A SCREENSHOT AND IT'S LIKE,

00:39:01.232 --> 00:39:02.199
I LIKE HIM.


00:39:02.299 --> 00:39:04.466
AND I WAS LIKE,
WHO IS THIS?

00:39:04.566 --> 00:39:06.366
LIKE, WHO IS HE
SAYING HE LIKES?

00:39:06.466 --> 00:39:08.033
LIKE I NEED TO SEE
WHO THIS GUY IS.

00:39:08.133 --> 00:39:09.932
SO I IMMEDIATELY GO
LOOK HIM UP ON INSTAGRAM

00:39:10.032 --> 00:39:12.232
AND I REALIZE IT'S
CONNER FROM CANADA.

00:39:12.332 --> 00:39:14.233
REBECCA: IT'S THE GUY THAT
WAS LIFTING THE CHAIRS.

00:39:14.333 --> 00:39:16.100
JASMINE: YEAH, AND THE GUY
THAT AUDITIONED FOR WORSHIP

00:39:16.200 --> 00:39:17.566
IS THE SAME DUDE,
YOU KNOW?

00:39:17.666 --> 00:39:18.799
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.


00:39:18.899 --> 00:39:20.366
JASMINE: AND SO I FOLLOW HIM,
I CHECK OUT, I STALK HIM,

00:39:20.466 --> 00:39:20.999
YOU KNOW.


00:39:21.099 --> 00:39:22.033
REBECCA: AS WE ALL DO.


00:39:22.133 --> 00:39:23.066
LET'S BE REAL.


00:39:23.166 --> 00:39:24.899
JASMINE: ALL MY LADY FRIENDS,
WE ALL JUST,

00:39:24.999 --> 00:39:27.466
LIKE, STALK HIM THE
WHOLE NIGHT, YOU KNOW,

00:39:27.566 --> 00:39:29.800
EVERYTHING WE CAN
FIND ABOUT HIM.

00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:32.400
AND SO A FEW DAYS LATER,
I POST SOMETHING IN MY STORIES

00:39:32.500 --> 00:39:34.432
ABOUT
RELATIONSHIPS OR SOMETHING,

00:39:34.532 --> 00:39:36.066
JUST NOT
THINKING ABOUT HIM.

00:39:36.166 --> 00:39:38.966
JUST POSTED SOMETHING AND
HE RESPONDED IN MY DM'S

00:39:39.066 --> 00:39:42.899
AND SAID, I'M NOT WORRIED THIS
GUY IS YET, BUT I'LL GET THERE.

00:39:42.999 --> 00:39:45.233
BUT LIKE SAID IT LIKE WE
KNEW EACH OTHER AND I'M LIKE,

00:39:45.333 --> 00:39:45.999
WHO'S THIS
GUY THINK HE IS?

00:39:46.099 --> 00:39:46.999
HE'S LIKE TALKING TO ME


00:39:47.099 --> 00:39:48.733
LIKE WE'RE LIKE
BEST FRIENDS, YOU KNOW?

00:39:48.833 --> 00:39:51.266
AND SO WE START
GOING BACK AND FORTH.

00:39:51.366 --> 00:39:52.766
AND THIS WAS REALLY BOLD.


00:39:52.866 --> 00:39:54.966
AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD
THINK THIS IS INSANE.

00:39:55.066 --> 00:39:58.532
BUT ONE OF HIS LIKE SOON
AFTER MESSAGES WAS,

00:39:58.632 --> 00:40:00.066
THIS IS A COLD CALL
MARRIAGE PROPOSAL.

00:40:00.166 --> 00:40:03.532
AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT?


00:40:03.632 --> 00:40:05.000
I WAS LIKE, WHAT
IS THIS GUY DOING?

00:40:05.100 --> 00:40:07.266
REBECCA: WHICH WOULD NOT
WORK IN EVERY SCENARIO.

00:40:07.366 --> 00:40:08.300
JASMINE: OH, MY GOSH.


00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:09.200
YEAH,
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME,

00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:11.533
EVERYBODY, BUT HE DID IT.


00:40:11.633 --> 00:40:13.499
AND I WAS LIKE,
THIS GUY IS CRAZY.

00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:15.999
AND SO I DIDN'T EVEN RESPOND,
I LIKE LEFT HIM ON READ,

00:40:16.099 --> 00:40:16.799
YOU KNOW.


00:40:16.899 --> 00:40:17.799
REBECCA: YOU LEFT HIM
ON READ?

00:40:17.899 --> 00:40:18.566
JASMINE: OH, STRAIGHT UP,
LEFT HIM ON READ.

00:40:18.666 --> 00:40:19.832
I WAS LIKE,
THIS IS WEIRD.

00:40:19.932 --> 00:40:21.266
REBECCA: AND YOU THOUGHT HE
WOULD GIVE UP AT THIS POINT.

00:40:21.366 --> 00:40:22.166
JASMINE: YEAH, YEAH,
HE DIDN'T.

00:40:22.266 --> 00:40:23.466
HE'S RESILIENT.


00:40:23.566 --> 00:40:26.100
AND SO A FEW DAYS LATER, HE
REACHES OUT AGAIN AND HE SAYS,

00:40:26.200 --> 00:40:28.232
HEY, WOULD LOVE TO
TALK TO YOU SOMETIME.

00:40:28.332 --> 00:40:29.566
WOULD LOVE TO JUMP
ON A PHONE CALL.

00:40:29.666 --> 00:40:32.099
AND SO I'M LIKE, ALL RIGHT, I'LL
JUMP ON A PHONE CALL WITH HIM.

00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.699
BUT LIKE, LIKE I'M GONNA
FIND OUT EITHER THAT

00:40:35.799 --> 00:40:37.300
HE'S REALLY WEIRD.


00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.733
AND THIS NEEDS
TO STOP IMMEDIATELY.

00:40:39.833 --> 00:40:42.199
I NEED TO BLOCK HIM AND
PROBABLY GET SECURITY.

00:40:42.299 --> 00:40:43.399
REBECCA: BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY
HAD SOME WEIRD EXPERIENCES

00:40:43.499 --> 00:40:44.166
IN THE PAST.


00:40:44.266 --> 00:40:45.299
JASMINE: OH, YEAH.
OH, YEAH.

00:40:45.399 --> 00:40:47.532
WE'VE HAD SOME STUFF, YOU KNOW,
OR THIS IS GOD,

00:40:47.632 --> 00:40:49.333
AND HE'S JUST
A REALLY BOLD GUY

00:40:49.433 --> 00:40:50.999
THAT'S REALLY RARE
IN MY GENERATION.

00:40:51.099 --> 00:40:53.266
I CAN'T REALLY DECIDE
WHICH ONE IT IS.

00:40:53.366 --> 00:40:55.133
AND SO I'LL JUST
TALK TO HIM.

00:40:55.233 --> 00:40:58.100
SO WE GET ON THE PHONE, WE HAVE
A GREAT TIME ON THE PHONE CALL.

00:40:58.200 --> 00:41:01.200
JUST IMMEDIATELY CONNECT,
HAVE A BLAST ON THE CALL.

00:41:01.300 --> 00:41:05.099
AND THEN WE JUST KIND OF LIKE
KEPT TALKING AFTER THAT

00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:06.233
AND WE BOTH ENDED UP,


00:41:06.333 --> 00:41:07.166
WE BOTH,


00:41:07.266 --> 00:41:09.700
WE STARTED DATING, WELL,
WE TOLD --

00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:10.766
REBECCA: WAS HE IN CANADA?


00:41:10.866 --> 00:41:12.266
JASMINE: YEAH, HE WAS IN CANADA.


00:41:12.366 --> 00:41:13.233
REBECCA: DID Y'ALL START
DATING LONG-DISTANCE?

00:41:13.333 --> 00:41:13.866
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:41:13.966 --> 00:41:14.966
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.


00:41:15.066 --> 00:41:16.566
JASMINE: YEAH, OUR FIRST DATE,
QUOTE, UNQUOTE.

00:41:16.666 --> 00:41:20.533
I WAS ON A TRIP, AND HE
WAS LIKE, I WAS ON MY WAY HOME,

00:41:20.633 --> 00:41:22.666
AND IT WAS
LEADING INTO MY BIRTHDAY,

00:41:22.766 --> 00:41:26.132
AND HE WAS LIKE, HEY,
I KNOW THIS IS, YOU KNOW,

00:41:26.232 --> 00:41:29.599
KIND OF WEIRD, MAYBE, BUT
WE'RE THOUSANDS OF MILES

00:41:29.699 --> 00:41:30.733
AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.


00:41:30.833 --> 00:41:31.966
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
THOUSANDS, BUT HE WAS LIKE,

00:41:32.066 --> 00:41:33.466
WE'RE THOUSANDS OF
MILES AWAY FROM EACH OTHER,

00:41:33.566 --> 00:41:35.799
AND I WANT TO
TAKE YOU ON A DATE.

00:41:35.899 --> 00:41:39.299
WOULD YOU LET ME TAKE YOU ON A
FACETIME DATE WHEN YOU GET HOME?

00:41:39.399 --> 00:41:40.900
AND I WAS JUST LIKE,
THIS IS SO INTERESTING

00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:42.099
THAT HE'S
ASKING LIKE THIS.

00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:44.333
BUT IT WAS JUST LIKE, IT
WAS SWEET AND BOLD, YOU KNOW?

00:41:44.433 --> 00:41:48.999
AND I GET HOME AND HE HAD
MY FAVORITE WHERE I WAS

00:41:49.099 --> 00:41:50.000
DOING THE PHONE CALL,


00:41:50.100 --> 00:41:54.333
HE HAD MY FAVORITE COFFEE
DELIVERED TO ME

00:41:54.433 --> 00:41:56.499
TWO MINUTES BEFORE
THE FACETIME DATE.

00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:57.966
REBECCA: WELL, THAT'S SMOOTH.


00:41:58.066 --> 00:41:59.466
JASMINE: AND I WAS JUST LIKE,
WHO IS THIS GUY?

00:41:59.566 --> 00:42:03.799
HE'S IN CANADA AND HE GOT MY
COFFEE DELIVERED TO ME ON TIME.

00:42:03.899 --> 00:42:04.666
LIKE, WHAT IN THE WORLD?


00:42:04.766 --> 00:42:05.833
THIS GUY IS ON
A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

00:42:05.933 --> 00:42:09.433
YOU KNOW, AND, JUST REALLY
LIKE, HE WAS JUST

00:42:09.533 --> 00:42:12.033
PULLING OUT ALL THE STOPS,
YOU KNOW, AND --

00:42:12.133 --> 00:42:12.999
REBECCA: AS IT SHOULD BE.


00:42:13.099 --> 00:42:14.199
JASMINE: YEAH, YEAH, JUST
THE PURSUIT.

00:42:14.299 --> 00:42:14.800
REBECCA: IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.


00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:15.533
JASMINE: IT DOESN'T.


00:42:15.633 --> 00:42:16.700
REBECCA: NOT IN TODAY'S AGE.


00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.266
JASMINE: BUT IT WAS THIS
BEAUTIFUL PURSUIT OF, LIKE,

00:42:19.366 --> 00:42:21.199
THIS IS WHAT I WANT,
AND I'M GOING TO GO AFTER IT

00:42:21.299 --> 00:42:22.500
WITH EVERYTHING I GOT.


00:42:22.600 --> 00:42:25.333
AND I JUST WISH WE NEED MORE MEN
LIKE THAT IN OUR GENERATION,

00:42:25.433 --> 00:42:26.299
YOU KNOW?


00:42:26.399 --> 00:42:27.199
AND SO IT WAS AMAZING.


00:42:27.299 --> 00:42:29.433
AND THEN WE
STARTED DATING.

00:42:29.533 --> 00:42:31.899
WE KIND OF KEPT IT
A LITTLE UNDER WRAPS.

00:42:31.999 --> 00:42:35.699
WE ONLY TOLD CLOSE
FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND OUR PASTORS

00:42:35.799 --> 00:42:37.366
AND INVITED
EVERYBODY TO PRAY WITH US,

00:42:37.466 --> 00:42:40.600
AND OUR PASTOR, PASTOR LANDON,
WAS ACTUALLY LIKE,

00:42:40.700 --> 00:42:44.533
HEY, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T
YOU JUST KEEP IT CLOSE?

00:42:44.633 --> 00:42:46.833
BECAUSE HE'S LIKE, I WANT
YOU TO BE ABLE TO DATE

00:42:46.933 --> 00:42:50.766
AND JUST BE A GIRL AND NOT HAVE
TO BE PASTOR JASMINE,

00:42:50.866 --> 00:42:51.799
YOU CAN JUST.


00:42:51.899 --> 00:42:52.999
REBECCA: LIKE UNDER THE RADAR.


00:42:53.099 --> 00:42:54.066
JASMINE: YEAH, YOU CAN JUST
ENJOY THE DATING PROCESS.

00:42:54.166 --> 00:42:55.766
HE'S LIKE, DON'T GO ON
ANY DATES IN FORT WORTH.

00:42:55.866 --> 00:42:58.800
JUST GO OUTSIDE THE CITY
SO YOU GUYS CAN ENJOY A PROCESS

00:42:58.900 --> 00:43:01.532
AND REALLY GET TO
SEE IF THIS IS WHAT GOD WANTS.

00:43:01.632 --> 00:43:04.866
AND I THINK IT WAS
THE BEST ADVICE EVER

00:43:04.966 --> 00:43:08.733
THAT ANYBODY COULD HAVE
GIVEN US, AND SO WE DID THAT.

00:43:08.833 --> 00:43:12.032
AND THEN WE BOTH, WE BOTH DID
40-DAY FAST AND SOUGHT THE LORD

00:43:12.132 --> 00:43:13.166
AND PRAYED.


00:43:13.266 --> 00:43:15.300
AND, WE DIDN'T WANT TO
WASTE EACH OTHER'S TIME.

00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.000
SO WE SOUGHT THE LORD
AND WAS LIKE, GOD,

00:43:17.100 --> 00:43:18.199
IS THIS
WHAT YOU WANT?

00:43:18.299 --> 00:43:21.300
WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE
DATING FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:24.100
AND THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU
HAVE FOR US.

00:43:24.200 --> 00:43:25.033
JASMINE: YEAH.


00:43:25.133 --> 00:43:26.133
AND SO WE
DID THAT

00:43:26.233 --> 00:43:28.199
AND WE'RE JUST COMMITTED TO
SEPARATELY HEARING

00:43:28.299 --> 00:43:29.532
AND THEN OBEYING
WHATEVER WE HEARD.

00:43:29.632 --> 00:43:32.266
AND WE BOTH HEARD THAT
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TOGETHER

00:43:32.366 --> 00:43:33.999
AND THAT WE WERE
EACH OTHER'S SPOUSE.

00:43:34.099 --> 00:43:35.700
AND HE SPOKE SO CLEARLY.


00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.700
AND HE ALSO SPOKE TO THE
PEOPLE IN OUR LIFE THAT

00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:40.000
THAT WAS WHAT
HE WAS DOING.

00:43:40.100 --> 00:43:41.133
AND THEY WERE WISE.


00:43:41.233 --> 00:43:43.666
THEY DIDN'T TELL US THAT
BEFORE WE HEARD,

00:43:43.766 --> 00:43:45.732
THEY ALLOWED IT TO BE
CONFIRMATION

00:43:45.832 --> 00:43:49.999
AFTER WE HEARD, WHICH VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT DETAIL TO THAT STORY.

00:43:50.099 --> 00:43:51.766
OTHERWISE IT GETS WEIRD
AND IT'S MANIPULATION.

00:43:51.866 --> 00:43:55.166
BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE
NOR THERE, AND SO,

00:43:55.266 --> 00:43:58.300
WE ALL HEARD THE LORD
TOGETHER, AND THEN

00:43:58.400 --> 00:43:59.800
WE WERE
FALLING IN LOVE.

00:43:59.900 --> 00:44:01.499
AND SO IT WAS
JUST BEAUTIFUL.

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.766
AND SO BY MARCH 2022,
WE WERE MARRIED.

00:44:05.866 --> 00:44:07.700
REBECCA: IT'S LIKE,
LOOK WHAT THE LORD CAN DO.

00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:11.133
JASMINE: OH, MY GOODNESS, SUCH A
BEAUTIFUL REDEMPTION STORY.

00:44:11.233 --> 00:44:12.099
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.


00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:13.266
JASMINE: AND I'LL
JUST SAY THIS:

00:44:13.366 --> 00:44:16.833
I REMEMBER BEING NERVOUS ABOUT
HIM HEARING THAT PART

00:44:16.933 --> 00:44:18.999
OF MY TESTIMONY THAT I JUST
SHARED AND THINKING,

00:44:19.099 --> 00:44:21.166
WHAT IS HE
GOING TO THINK?

00:44:21.266 --> 00:44:23.466
WHOEVER MY HUSBAND IS,
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO THINK

00:44:23.566 --> 00:44:24.699
ABOUT THIS PART?


00:44:24.799 --> 00:44:26.433
YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST, THE
SHAME THAT THE ENEMY WOULD

00:44:26.533 --> 00:44:28.733
ATTACK SOMETIMES OF, LIKE
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT YOU,

00:44:28.833 --> 00:44:30.200
LIKE, LOOK AT WHAT
YOU'VE WALKED THROUGH.

00:44:30.300 --> 00:44:32.533
DA DA DA DA, AND
THE RIGHT MAN,

00:44:32.633 --> 00:44:35.232
WHICH FOR ME, MY HUSBAND
WAS THE RIGHT MAN,

00:44:35.332 --> 00:44:38.566
RESPONDED LIKE JESUS WOULD
HAVE, LIKE I COULD

00:44:38.666 --> 00:44:42.466
IMAGINE THE EYES OF JESUS,
THE MERCY OF JESUS,

00:44:42.566 --> 00:44:45.099
RECOGNIZING THAT THAT'S
NOT WHO I AM ANYMORE

00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.033
AND THAT THAT'S
A PART OF MY STORY.

00:44:47.133 --> 00:44:49.132
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
JESUS HAS DONE IN MY LIFE.

00:44:49.232 --> 00:44:51.866
AND SO NOW I GET TO TRAVEL
AND SHARE THIS TESTIMONY,

00:44:51.966 --> 00:44:54.199
AND HE CELEBRATES
ME ALONG THE WAY.

00:44:54.299 --> 00:44:57.833
AND JUST LIKE IT'S JUST SO WILD
TO SEE WHAT GOD HAS DONE

00:44:57.933 --> 00:44:58.799
WITH IT.


00:44:58.899 --> 00:45:00.766
REBECCA: IT'S SUCH
A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE

00:45:00.866 --> 00:45:03.132
OF WHAT GOD CAN DO WHEN YOU
GIVE YOURSELF TO HIM

00:45:03.232 --> 00:45:07.066
AND YOU SAY YES AND YOU'RE
OBEDIENT AND YOU WALK IT OUT,

00:45:07.166 --> 00:45:10.266
YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT,
I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT AXL.

00:45:10.366 --> 00:45:12.966
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

00:45:13.066 --> 00:45:14.366
WE'LL JUST
TOUCH ON IT QUICKLY.

00:45:14.466 --> 00:45:16.766
BUT WHAT IS AXL?


00:45:16.866 --> 00:45:20.599
JASMINE: YEAH, THE VISION OF AXL
IS WE EXIST TO EQUIP --

00:45:20.699 --> 00:45:21.333
REBECCA: YOU STARTED IT.


00:45:21.433 --> 00:45:22.166
JASMINE: YEAH, I STARTED IT.


00:45:22.266 --> 00:45:23.266
YEAH.


00:45:23.366 --> 00:45:24.699
WE WANT TO EQUIP AND
EMPOWER SONS AND DAUGHTERS

00:45:24.799 --> 00:45:27.566
TO ADVANCE THE KINGDOM THROUGH
THEIR CREATIVE EXPRESSION.

00:45:27.666 --> 00:45:31.333
SO ESSENTIALLY, AS CHRISTIANS,
WE SEE TONS OF WORSHIP

00:45:31.433 --> 00:45:34.400
SCHOOLS AND MINISTRY SCHOOLS
AND BIBLE COLLEGES.

00:45:34.500 --> 00:45:36.300
AND REALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS
WE'VE TRAINED PEOPLE UP

00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:37.532
FOR MINISTRY.


00:45:37.632 --> 00:45:40.800
BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE A
GREAT JOB OF TRAINING UP

00:45:40.900 --> 00:45:43.433
CHRISTIANS TO IMPACT
THE WORLD

00:45:43.533 --> 00:45:45.666
IN ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT
AND IN MEDIA.

00:45:45.766 --> 00:45:47.266
WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE
A GREAT JOB OF THAT.

00:45:47.366 --> 00:45:49.766
SO THERE'S PEOPLE THAT
ARE CALLED INTO THOSE SPACES

00:45:49.866 --> 00:45:52.066
THAT MAYBE
FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LESS THAN

00:45:52.166 --> 00:45:53.799
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT
ON A STAGE HOLDING A MIC,

00:45:53.899 --> 00:45:57.566
PREACHING, OR LEADING
WORSHIP, BUT I BELIEVE

00:45:57.666 --> 00:46:00.399
THAT GOD HAS CALLED PEOPLE
TO BE ACTRESSES AND ACTORS

00:46:00.499 --> 00:46:03.199
AND PHOTOGRAPHERS
AND FILMMAKERS,

00:46:03.299 --> 00:46:05.666
AND THAT THERE SHOULD BE
KINGDOM PEOPLE ON THE GRAMMYS

00:46:05.766 --> 00:46:07.499
BRINGING THE KINGDOM
THROUGH THEIR PERFORMANCE

00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:08.833
AND THROUGH THEIR SONGS.


00:46:08.933 --> 00:46:11.633
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT EVERY
SONGWRITER AND EVERY VOCALIST

00:46:11.733 --> 00:46:14.466
IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON A STAGE
LEADING WORSHIP ON SUNDAY.

00:46:14.566 --> 00:46:16.932
BUT WE HAVEN'T
EQUIPPED PEOPLE TO DO THAT.

00:46:17.032 --> 00:46:20.299
AND SO AXL'S OUR DESIRE
WITH AXL IS TO EQUIP PEOPLE

00:46:20.399 --> 00:46:22.633
AND EMPOWER THEM
TO DO JUST THAT

00:46:22.733 --> 00:46:24.966
THROUGH WHATEVER THE CREATIVE
EXPRESSION THAT GOD HAS GIVEN

00:46:25.066 --> 00:46:25.899
THEM IS.


00:46:25.999 --> 00:46:27.500
AND SO WE'RE HAVING
A BLAST DOING IT.

00:46:27.600 --> 00:46:29.133
I'M SUPER
PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

00:46:29.233 --> 00:46:32.333
I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING NOW
BECAUSE I CAN JUST GO ON

00:46:32.433 --> 00:46:33.299
ABOUT IT.


00:46:33.399 --> 00:46:34.699
REBECCA: WELL, WE NEED
TO HAVE YOU BACK.

00:46:34.799 --> 00:46:35.799
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS WORD
BECAUSE I WANT TO DIVE INTO IT,

00:46:35.899 --> 00:46:36.866
TOO.


00:46:36.966 --> 00:46:38.533
BUT I JUST
THINK THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

00:46:38.633 --> 00:46:39.732
AND I LOVE YOUR STORY.


00:46:39.832 --> 00:46:42.300
FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
GET CONNECTED TO YOU,

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:43.366
WHERE CAN
THEY FIND YOU?

00:46:43.466 --> 00:46:44.999
JASMINE: YEAH, I'M
ON INSTAGRAM,

00:46:45.099 --> 00:46:48.766
@IAMJASMINEGENIE.


00:46:48.866 --> 00:46:49.799
OR IF YOU WANT TO GET
CONNECTED TO AXL, IT'S

00:46:49.899 --> 00:46:54.599
@AXLCREATIVECO, SO THOSE
ARE THE BEST TWO WAYS.

00:46:54.699 --> 00:46:56.900
I'M ALSO CONNECTED TO
MERCY CULTURE CHURCH,

00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.233
@MERCYCULTUREWORSHIP
ON INSTAGRAM.

00:46:59.333 --> 00:47:01.866
BUT THOSE ARE THE BEST WAYS TO
CONNECT, FOR SURE.

00:47:01.966 --> 00:47:03.766
REBECCA: AND BEFORE WE GO,
CAN YOU JUST SAY A PRAYER

00:47:03.866 --> 00:47:05.332
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE
WHO MAYBE ARE

00:47:05.432 --> 00:47:08.366
HEARING YOUR TESTIMONY
AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING

00:47:08.466 --> 00:47:10.200
AND THEY'RE LOOKING
FOR A BREAKTHROUGH?

00:47:10.300 --> 00:47:11.966
JASMINE: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.


00:47:12.066 --> 00:47:13.966
WELL, LORD, I JUST
THANK YOU FOR, AGAIN,

00:47:14.066 --> 00:47:16.699
FOR ANY PERSON WHO MAY BE
WATCHING OR LISTENING RIGHT NOW

00:47:16.799 --> 00:47:18.766
WHO HAS THIS
STORY, I PRAY THAT

00:47:18.866 --> 00:47:22.066
YOU WOULD MEET THEM WITH
YOUR MERCY IN THE SAME WAY

00:47:22.166 --> 00:47:25.366
THAT YOU'VE MET ME, YOUR WORD
SAYS IN PROVERBS THAT

00:47:25.466 --> 00:47:29.199
THOSE WHO CONCEAL THEIR
TRANSGRESSIONS WILL NOT PROSPER,

00:47:29.299 --> 00:47:32.299
BUT THE ONES WHO CONFESS
AND REPENT OF THEIR SINS,

00:47:32.399 --> 00:47:33.799
THAT
THEY WILL FIND MERCY.

00:47:33.899 --> 00:47:36.399
AND SO, LORD, I'M ASKING YOU
TO GIVE PEOPLE

00:47:36.499 --> 00:47:39.366
A SUPERNATURAL GRACE, TO
CONFESS AND REPENT,

00:47:39.466 --> 00:47:41.033
TO TURN AWAY
FROM THEIR SIN.

00:47:41.133 --> 00:47:43.366
I PRAY THAT IN THE SAME
WAY THAT YOU GAVE ME A GRACE

00:47:43.466 --> 00:47:46.532
TO EVEN ASK FOR THE
WAY OUT, THAT YOU JUST

00:47:46.632 --> 00:47:49.833
PUT THAT CRY ON THEIR LIPS,
THAT THEY WOULD ASK YOU

00:47:49.933 --> 00:47:52.299
FOR THE WAY OUT, AND THAT THEY
WOULD TAKE IT AS YOU GIVE IT.

00:47:52.299 --> 00:47:56.500
FATHER, I JUST THANK YOU FOR
SURROUNDING THEM WITH PEOPLE

00:47:56.600 --> 00:47:58.733
THE WAY YOU SURROUNDED THEM
WITH PEOPLE THAT WILL BE

00:47:58.833 --> 00:48:00.632
ABLE TO WALK THEM
THROUGH THE PROCESS

00:48:00.732 --> 00:48:04.132
WITH TRUTH AND IN LOVE
WITH YOUR MERCY, AND SO,

00:48:04.232 --> 00:48:06.032
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR
SUPERNATURAL ENCOUNTERS.

00:48:06.132 --> 00:48:07.133
I PRAY FOR DREAMS,


00:48:07.233 --> 00:48:09.199
VISIONS, ENCOUNTERS
IN THE NIGHT.

00:48:09.299 --> 00:48:12.399
ENCOUNTERS IN THE DAY WITH YOU,
WHERE YOU DO THINGS

00:48:12.499 --> 00:48:15.833
INSIDE OF PEOPLE THAT
ONLY YOU COULD DO, LORD,

00:48:15.933 --> 00:48:17.466
THAT YOU WOULD DRAW
PEOPLE UNTO YOURSELF.

00:48:17.566 --> 00:48:19.566
AND SO, LORD, WE LOVE YOU AND
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

00:48:19.666 --> 00:48:22.133
WE THANK YOU THAT FREEDOM,
DELIVERANCE, HEALING,

00:48:22.233 --> 00:48:24.832
THAT IT'S ALL EASY
IN YOUR PRESENCE.

00:48:24.932 --> 00:48:25.766
WE LOVE YOU, LORD.


00:48:25.866 --> 00:48:27.300
IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.


00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:28.333
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:48:28.433 --> 00:48:30.333
JASMINE, THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.

00:48:30.433 --> 00:48:30.966
SERIOUSLY.


00:48:31.066 --> 00:48:31.966
AND COME BACK, OKAY?


00:48:32.066 --> 00:48:33.099
JASMINE: YEAH, OKAY.


00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:34.466
REBECCA: WELL, YOU
HEARD IT HERE FIRST.

00:48:34.566 --> 00:48:36.100
LIVE YOUR LIFE
IN THE LIGHT.

00:48:36.200 --> 00:48:38.400
THERE'S NO CONDEMNATION,
AS IT SAYS IN ROMANS EIGHT.

00:48:38.500 --> 00:48:40.300
FOR THOSE WHO ARE
IN CHRIST JESUS,

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:41.499
REPENTANCE IS
NOT A BAD THING.

00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:42.232
IT'S A GOOD THING.


00:48:42.332 --> 00:48:43.333
THERE'S NO SHAME.


00:48:43.433 --> 00:48:45.799
YOU KNOW, TODAY IS THE DAY
TO TURN BACK TO HIM

00:48:45.899 --> 00:48:48.566
AND KNOW THAT HE, JUST LIKE
HE DID FOR JASMINE,

00:48:48.666 --> 00:48:51.200
CAN RESTORE AND GIVE YOU
BEAUTY FOR ASHES.

00:48:51.300 --> 00:48:52.500
THANKS SO MUCH
FOR WATCHING.

00:48:52.600 --> 00:48:54.799
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME ON
<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST</i> .