STEPHANIE IKE OKAFOR: I BELIEVE THAT DESPERATION
IS A WOMB FOR TRANSFORMATION IN THE LIFE OF A BELIEVER.
THAT DESPERATION COMES FROM A PLACE
WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT MY LIFE IS NOT MY OWN.
JUST BECAUSE THINGS ARE WORKING FOR ME
DOES NOT MEAN I AM IN THE THING
GOD ORDAINED ME TO DO.
WHEN YOU REALIZE THE NEED FOR THE VOICE OF GOD
IN YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE, IT ACTIVATES THIS PLACE
OF COMMUNION WITH GOD.
IT'S THE GLORY OF GOD TO CONCEAL A MATTER
AND IT'S THE GLORY OF KINGS TO SEARCH A MATTER.
AND SO THAT ACTUALLY, THAT DESIRE TO KNOW,
YEAH.
GOD PUT ON THE INSIDE OF YOU TO SEARCH HIM OUT.
IT STARTS UP WITH, WHY DO YOU NEED THE VOICE OF GOD?
IF HE'S - IF HIS VOICE IS NOT LEADING MY LIFE,
WHAT AM I LIVING IN?
HEY, GUYS, WELCOME BACK
TO THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST .
I'M JOINED TODAY WITH AUTHOR AND EXECUTIVE PASTOR
STEPHANIE IKE OKAFOR - YES.
BASED IN L.A.,
BUT SHE'S HERE WITH US TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
THERE'S SO MANY THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT,
BUT I GOT TO BE FOCUSED BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE
SO MUCH TIME.
YOU'RE SO COOL, BY THE WAY.
THANK YOU.
BUT THERE'S SO MUCH SPIRITUAL DEPTH,
AND I THINK OUR AUDIENCE,
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE REALLY BLESSED
LISTENING TO THIS.
SO JUST KEEP YOUR FOCUS,
KEEP TUNED.
SO LET'S GO BACK TO YOUR CHILDHOOD
BECAUSE GOD GOT YOUR ATTENTION AT A REALLY YOUNG AGE.
YEAH.
AND BEGAN TO DISCIPLE YOU.
YEAH.
SO TALK ABOUT, IT WAS EITHER WHEN YOU WERE
EIGHT OR NINE -
NINE YEARS OLD.
YOU HAD YOUR FIRST, KIND OF, ENCOUNTER WITH THE LORD.
YEAH.
AND SO AT NINE,
I HAD AN ENCOUNTER WITH AN ANGEL.
I THOUGHT THE ANGEL WAS GOD
BUT IT WASN'T.
AND THAT ENCOUNTER LITERALLY, LIKE,
WAS A CATALYST.
PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS - I JUST HAD A LOT OF ANGER.
MY FATHER WAS MURDERED AS A BABY - WHEN I WAS A BABY.
AND I THINK MY LIFE, LIKE I TELL PEOPLE,
LIKE, GOD NOT ONLY - LIKE, HE REALLY SAVED MY LIFE.
NOT EVEN FROM A PLACE OF JUST SALVATION,
HE SAVED THE COURSE OF MY LIFE.
WHERE I WAS GOING, YOU KNOW, IN MY MINDSET,
WHAT I WAS MEDITATING IN MY HEART
WAS VERY DARK.
AND THE LORD ENCOUNTERED ME
AND HE JUST STARTED DEALING WITH ME.
SO AFTER I HAD THE ENCOUNTER WITH THE ANGEL,
I STARTED HEARING THE VOICE OF GOD.
AND AFTER THAT, I STARTED HAVING ENCOUNTERS WITH
THE LORD IN DREAMS.
AND HE WOULD TEACH ME, LIKE LITERALLY, LIKE,
THE LORD RAISED ME.
AND SO IT WOULD BE THIS FLUID CONVERSATION FROM DREAMS.
I WOULD WAKE UP.
I WOULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT THINGS.
I COULD HEAR HIS VOICE SO CLEARLY.
AND HE REALLY DEALT WITH MY HEART BEFORE
HE STARTED GIVING ME ANY OTHER WORDS.
MY HEART POSTURE BEFORE HIM WAS A VERY KEY THING.
WHAT'S SO IMPACTFUL ABOUT YOUR STORY
IS YOU LOST YOUR FATHER, LIKE YOU SAID,
WHEN YOU WERE A BABY.
BUT THE ENCOURAGING THING TO TAKE OUT OF
SUCH A TRAGEDY LIKE THAT,
IS THAT GOD BECAME YOUR FATHER.
YEAH.
I RECOGNIZED, LIKE PEOPLE WOULD SAY THINGS LIKE THAT,
BUT I'M LIKE, NO, RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD
IS VERY REAL.
IT'S VERY TANGIBLE.
I, LIKE, I ENJOY SPENDING TIME WITH THE LORD.
YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS - LIKE WHEN I WOULD
SAY THIS TO PEOPLE I'M LIKE,
NO, I REALLY MEAN IT, LIKE. GOD IS AS REAL,
IS MORE REAL TO ME THAN PEOPLE I SEE.
THAT'S AMAZING.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, LIKE, HE REALLY RAISED ME UP.
EVEN UNTIL TODAY, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE
YOU KNOW, BEFORE I'M ABOUT TO PREACH
AND HE WILL TALK TO ME ABOUT A SCRIPTURE
THAT I'VE NEVER READ.
AND HE'S LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT I WANT
YOU TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE,
AND HE'LL BREAK THINGS DOWN TO ME.
AND THEN I WOULD WAKE UP AND I'LL READ THE SCRIPTURE
AND I'M LIKE, OH, MY GOD, THIS IS WHAT HE SAID.
BUT IT'S A REAL TANGIBLE RELATIONSHIP
THAT THE LORD WANTS TO HAVE WITH US.
AND YOU SEE, FOR ME,
I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND
GOD AS MY FATHER UNTIL JUST RECENTLY.
AND IT WAS ACTUALLY AROUND THE PASSING OF MY OWN FATHER,
WHEN I TOLD GOD,
I SAID, BECAUSE FOR A SECOND,
I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT PRAYING,
BRING A FATHER FIGURE INTO MY LIFE
IN THE FORM OF LIKE A HUMAN.
AND THEN I THOUGHT, NO.
I SAID, I WANT YOU TO BE MY FATHER NOW.
AND HE'S THE BEST AT IT.
NO, HE'S AMAZING.
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING,
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR FATHER,
IF YOUR FATHER'S NOT HERE,
GOD CAN BE THAT FOR YOU.
YEAH.
AND IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.
AND EVEN SEEING THE SECURITY YOU HAVE,
THE SELF-ASSUREDNESS, THAT COMES FROM SOMEONE
WHO KNOWS WHO THEIR FATHER IS
AND THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE IN HIM.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN'T -
YOU CAN'T PRODUCE ON YOUR OWN,
IT CAN ONLY COME FROM YEARS OF BEING IN
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM - THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I JUST LOVE THAT.
SO WHEN YOU - DID YOU GET SAVED WHEN YOU WERE EIGHT?
NO.
[ LAUGHTER ]
YOUR STORY IS SO WILD.
IT'S LIKE THE GRACE OF GOD,
BUT HE CALLED YOU OUT AND HE BEGAN -
YEAH.
AND I LOVE THAT YOU SAID HE WORKED ON YOUR HEART
BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE RELATIONSHIPS.
SO IF IT'S HARD, WHICH WE ALL STRUGGLE WITH THAT,
YOU CAN'T COMMUNE.
EXACTLY.
WHAT WAS CRAZY IS THAT EVEN THOUGH
I EMBRACED HIM AS FATHER BEFORE SAVIOR,
I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HIM AS SAVIOR.
I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TREE OF THE GARDEN
OF GOOD AND EVIL.
I WAS LIKE, GOD, YOU ARE DRAMATIC, OKAY.
YOU PUT THE TREE. YOU DID.
BECAUSE IT WAS HARD FOR ME -
THIS IS JUST BEING SO HONEST -
IT WAS LIKE EVEN IN SUNDAY SCHOOL OR CHURCH,
DURING EASTER SERVICES OR, YOU KNOW,
RESURRECTION SUNDAY, PEOPLE START CRYING.
AND I'LL BE SITTING DOWN IN CHURCH
AND I'M LIKE TALKING TO GOD.
I'M LIKE, DAD,
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE CRYING.
YOU CAUSED THIS.
YOU CAUSED IT.
YOU FIX IT.
I COULDN'T CONNECT AT THAT TIME WITH THIS WHOLE IDEA
OF LIKE SAVIOR, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE I HAD SO MANY QUESTIONS.
AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T GET IT.
LIKE, JESUS, OKAY, YOU DIED FOR US,
BUT YOU PUT THE TREE.
YEAH.
AND THEN I REMEMBER ONE OF -
SO THERE ARE TWO VERY SIGNIFICANT MOMENTS FOR ME.
SO ONE WAS WHEN I WAS AT A POINT, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE EVEN JUST LIKE HOW CHILDREN WOULD DO
WITH THEIR FATHERS,
YOU LOVE YOUR DAD,
BUT YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE REBELLIOUS SOMETIMES.
YEAH, ESPECIALLY THOSE TEENAGE YEARS
WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, I KNOW MORE THAN YOU.
SO, FOR ME, HE WAS MY DAD, YOU KNOW.
IT WASN'T JUST LIKE - I LOVED HIM
BUT I DIDN'T FEAR HIM.
YEAH.
I DIDN'T HAVE THIS REVERENCE,
RESPECT FOR HIM, RIGHT, AT THE TIME.
AND THAT WAS WHERE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT HE STARTED, HE WAS WORKING ON.
BUT IT WAS A TIME WHERE I JUST FELT LIKE,
OKAY, GOD, YOU'RE A BIT BORING, YOU KNOW,
JUST LIKE YOU DO WITH A DAD.
DAD, YOU DON'T KNOW,
YOU DON'T KNOW BETTER.
YOU'RE BORING.
YOU KNOW, MY FRIENDS ARE FUN.
BUT THAT'S HOW - PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT PHASE IN REAL LIFE
WITH THEIR REAL PARENTS, TOO, IT'S WILD.
AND I WENT THROUGH THAT WITH GOD.
I WAS LIKE, YOU'RE BORING, YOU KNOW.
I WANT TO HAVE FUN.
LIKE, YOU DON'T REALLY -
WHAT ARE WE DOING THAT IS FUN RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW.
AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS FUN WAS NOT BECAUSE ALL THAT -
ALL OF THAT STUFF LEFT ME EMPTY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WANTED -
I WAS LIKE EVERYONE IS GOING OUT,
THEY'RE HAVING FUN, THEY'RE DOING THIS,
THEY'RE GOING TO THE CLUB.
SO I WANTED TO LIVE THAT LIFE.
AND I WAS IN THAT LIFE AND I WAS DOING IT,
YOU KNOW, A LOT.
AND I REMEMBER ONE DAY I WAS AT A CLUB
AND, LITERALLY, LIKE THE LORD GIVES ME
A PROPHETIC MESSAGE FOR A YOUNG LADY,
WHO HAD - WHO WAS GOING THROUGH THINGS WITH HER FATHER,
LIKE, HER FATHER WAS IN THE HOSPITAL.
AND, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS JUST IN THE CLUB
FOR THE WRONG REASONS.
IT'S LIKE TRYING TO ESCAPE, YOU KNOW,
THE REALITY OF LIKE,
OH, MY GOSH, I MIGHT LOSE MY DAD.
AND THE LORD TOLD ME THIS WORD TO GIVE HER.
AND I GAVE HER THE WORD AND SHE'S CRYING
AND SHE GOES HOME.
AND WHEN I GOT HOME I'M LIKE, MAN, LORD,
I DON'T WANT TO - THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD
ENCOUNTER ME AND SPEAK TO ME IN THIS VERY DARK PLACE,
THAT SHIFTED ME.
IT WAS LIKE, I REALLY WANT TO LIVE THIS LIFE FOR YOU,
BUT I STILL HAD QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WANT TO -
I'M SOMEONE THAT, LIKE, I REALLY WANT
TO UNDERSTAND THINGS.
YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW.
SO I WAS AT A POINT WHERE I'M LIKE,
GOD, I'M SURRENDERED, YOU KNOW,
LIKE WHATEVER YOU WILL HAVE ME DO,
I'M ALL IN, BUT I HAD QUESTIONS.
I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND
YOU KNOW, JESUS DYING FOR US.
YEAH.
AND I REMEMBER ONE RESURRECTION SUNDAY AT CHURCH,
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE EMOTIONAL.
AND I JUST, I WASN'T THERE.
I WASN'T IN THE PLACE OF LIKE,
OH, MY GOD, JESUS DIED FOR ME, YOU KNOW.
BECAUSE I'M LIKE, GOD,
PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW,
WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS.
AND WHILE I WAS SAYING IT,
I HAD THIS VISION.
AND I SEE THE LORD ON THE CROSS.
AND I SEE BLOOD, LIKE ALMOST LIKE IN THE SAND,
AND IN THE BLOOD WAS MY NAME WRITTEN IN IT.
AND I HAD THIS UNDERSTANDING.
IT WAS LIKE IN THAT MOMENT,
THERE WAS THIS IMPARTATION OF REVELATION OF WHAT IT MEANT
FOR THE LORD TO DIE FOR US ON THE CROSS,
THAT IN HIM WE TRULY HAVE LIFE.
AND IT JUST TOOK ME TO THIS JOURNEY OF
WHAT HAPPENED FROM THE BEGINNING,
WHY THE TREE WAS EVEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
LIKE, I WAS LIKE, WAIT, GOD, YOU'RE NOT REALLY DRAMATIC.
YOU'RE LIKE - YOU'RE YOU'RE REALLY LIKE,
OH, MY GOD, YOU DIED FOR - LIKE IT DAWNED ON ME.
LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, LIKE YOU CAME IN THE FORM OF MAN.
AND YOU DID THIS SO THAT I WOULD HAVE LIFE,
LIKE THE REVELATION OF THE DEATH OF CHRIST
AND THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.
IT TOOK OVER MY HEART AND I THINK THAT BROUGHT ME
INTO A PLACE WHERE I REALLY CAME INTO
THIS UNDERSTANDING OF, OH, WOW.
YOU ARE REALLY LORD AND SAVIOR, YOU KNOW.
BUT, YEAH, IT HAD BEEN A JOURNEY,
YOU KNOW, GETTING TO THAT POINT, BUT YEAH.
THERE'S A VERSE IN PROVERBS, IT SAYS,
IT'S THE GLORY OF GOD TO CONCEAL A MATTER,
AND THE GLORY OF KINGS TO SEARCH A MATTER,
AND SO THAT, ACTUALLY THAT DESIRE TO KNOW -
YEAH.
GOD PUT ON THE INSIDE OF YOU
TO SEARCH HIM OUT AND TO KNOW HIM.
AND SO WHAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING WANTING TO UNDERSTAND,
IT'S BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO GENUINELY CONNECT TO GOD
IN YOUR HEART, IN YOUR MIND,
AND THE FULLNESS AND ALL OF YOU.
YEAH.
SPIRIT, SOUL, BODY.
BECAUSE I WAS - I WAS ALREADY AT A PLACE WHERE
I'M LIKE I WHATEVER YOU HAVE ME DO
I'M YOUR PERSON, YOU KNOW.
BUT I WANTED TO, FROM A HEART POSTURE,
UNDERSTAND THE CROSS.
YEAH.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, LITERALLY, IT USED TO BE
THE FUNNIEST THING, LIKE I WOULD BE IN CHURCH
AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION
OF CHRIST, AND IN MY HEART
I'M LIKE, GOD, YOU'RE REALLY DRAMATIC.
YEAH.
ISN'T IT FUNNY WHEN WE LOOK AT SCRIPTURE
AND WE SEE IT ONE WAY, LIKE I REMEMBER BEING
IN BIBLE SCHOOL, OR NOT BIBLE SCHOOL,
I WAS IN A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL.
THIS IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND I REMEMBER
READING THE GOSPELS AND I THOUGHT
SOME OF THE STUFF JESUS SAID, I WAS LIKE,
THAT IS THE STRANGEST RESPONSE.
YEAH.
BECAUSE HE WAS NOT OF THIS WORLD.
HE CAME INTO THIS WORLD,
BUT HE WAS PREACHING THE KINGDOM -
THAT'S RIGHT.
INTO THE EARTHLY MIND.
IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
BUT IN TIME, AS GOD BEGAN TO UNFOLD,
WHEN YOU GET REVELATION FROM HIM,
WHICH ONLY HE CAN GIVE TO YOU -
WE THINK ABOUT THAT STORY WITH PETER.
HE SAYS WHO DO YOU SAY THAT I AM?
AND HE SAYS YOU'RE THE MESSIAH.
AND HE SAYS FLESH AND BLOOD DO NOT REVEAL THIS UNTO YOU,
BUT MY FATHER WHO WAS IN HEAVEN.
THAT IS HOW GOD GIVES US REVELATION.
AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT
THERE IS A PLACE IN YOUR GROWTH WITH GOD,
THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE INTIMACY AND COMMUNION WITH HIM
BECAUSE IT CEMENTS SOMETHING IN YOUR HEART.
YEAH.
BECAUSE MANY TIMES, LIKE YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE
WHO GREW UP IN CHURCH, YOU KNOW,
THEY CAN RECITE ALL THE VERSES,
THEY KNOW ALL THE LINES.
BUT THEY'RE NOT ANCHORED IN IT
BECAUSE THE REVELATION OF WHAT
THAT MEANS HAS NOT REALLY.
COME INTO THEIR HEART.
AND SO CHRISTIANITY IS NOT THIS PRACTICE, RIGHT,
IT'S RELATIONSHIP.
YEP.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY I'M SO PASSIONATE,
EVEN ABOUT THE BOOK BECAUSE IT GOES BEYOND
JUST ABOUT DREAMS.
IT'S REALLY HEARING AND UNDERSTANDING GOD'S VOICE,
BUT YOU CAN ALSO DO THAT WHILE YOU SLEEP.
SEE, AND I WANT TO ACTUALLY GET INTO THAT TOPIC,
BUT I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE THING,
IS THAT FOR ME, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING,
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS, THAT'S THE FOUNDATION.
YES.
AND SO MANY PEOPLE, THEY'RE RAISED IN CHURCH,
AND CHRISTIANITY IS A CULTURAL THING.
YES.
IT'S AN EXPERIENTIAL THING,
BUT IT'S NOT A PERSONAL COMMUNION WITH JESUS.
AND WHAT WE LEARN ABOUT THE CROSS IS THAT
WHEN HE DIED AND THAT VEIL WAS TORN TOP TO BOTTOM -
YEAH.
HE WAS OPENING THE WAY FOR US TO HAVE
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
YES.
EXACTLY, BECAUSE HE WAS ABLE TO CLEANSE THE TEMPLE
WITH HIS BLOOD.
OUR BODY AS BEING THE TEMPLE,
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SENT 50 DAYS LATER AND HE COMES
AND DWELLS IN BELIEVERS.
NO LONGER IS IT IN A BUILDING.
HE'S GOING TO ABIDE IN US.
THAT'S RIGHT.
AND SO THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR PEOPLE
WHO ARE LISTENING, THAT THAT IS THE FOUNDATION
OF OUR FAITH.
YEAH.
AND IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN STEADY AND ROOTED,
YOU HAVE TO BE ROOTED AND GROUNDED IN HIM.
NOT IN OTHER PEOPLE'S FAITH.
NOT IN YOUR EXPERIENCES.
BUT IN HIM.
AND GOD DID THAT IN YOU.
YEAH.
SO, LET'S BREAK DOWN FOR PEOPLE WHO -
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT -
WHO ARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE,
WELL, DO THE VOICE OF GOD AND THEN WE'LL DO DREAMS.
SO, LET'S DO THE VOICE OF GOD.
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
YEAH.
SO JUST TAP ON HOW DO PEOPLE HEAR FROM GOD?
HOW DO THEY KNOW IT'S HIM?
YEAH.
THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS THAT WE CAN EXPERIENCE
GOD'S VOICE.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT ONE OR THE OTHER.
YOU HAVE ACCESS TO EVERY, YOU KNOW, MEANS.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I DISCUSSED IS
THERE ARE FOUR PRIMARY WAYS THAT WE CAN
EXPERIENCE HIS VOICE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN EXPERIENCE IT THROUGH EMOTIONS.
I CALL THEM LIKE FEELERS.
MM-HMM.
AND SO, YOU KNOW,
GOD IS SHARING HIS EMOTION WITH YOU
CONCERNING A THING, AND SO THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE SAY LIKE -
OH, LIKE SHARING HIS HEART.
YES.
SO IT'S LIKE, OH, I HAVE PEACE ABOUT THIS,
OR I DON'T HAVE PEACE ABOUT THIS
BECAUSE PEACE IS A DIRECTIONAL EMOTION, RIGHT.
SO THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT BE
LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND EVERYTHING IS PERFECT ON PAPER,
BUT YOUR HEART IS NOT SETTLED AND YOU'RE NOT AT PEACE.
AND SO THE LORD IS SHOWING YOU,
HEY, I'M NOT IN THIS.
YOU KNOW, WALK AWAY FROM IT.
SO, YES, IT'S PERFECT ON PAPER,
BUT GOD IS LIKE THERE'S MORE TO IT
THAN MEETS THE EYE, RIGHT.
SO THERE'S THE FEELERS.
THEN THERE ARE THE KNOWERS.
THIS IS THIS INSTINCTIVE KNOWING OF WHAT TO DO.
LIKE, IT'S NOT THAT YOU HEARD SOMETHING,
YOU JUST KNOW WHAT TO DO.
AND THIS IS ALSO CONNECTED TO THE GIFT OF FAITH.
YOU KNOW ONE OF THE MANIFESTATIONS OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FAITH.
AND IT'S LIKE GOD LITERALLY SHARING WITH YOU
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, LIKE WITHOUT EVEN COMMUNICATING IT.
HE BRINGS IT IN YOUR INNER KNOWER.
WHEN PETER, WHEN JESUS ASKS PETER,
HE SAID, WHO DO MEN SAY THAT I AM?
IF YOU NOTICE, PETER DID NOT SAY I HEARD.
HE DIDN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS ENCOUNTER.
HE JUST HAD A KNOWING.
HE'S LIKE, YOU ARE THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.
AND SO EVEN JESUS GIVES HIM LANGUAGE
FOR HOW HE KNOWS IT.
HE SAYS FLESH AND BLOOD DID NOT REVEAL THIS TO YOU,
BUT MY FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN.
AND SO THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU JUST KNOW SOMETHING
AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW, BECAUSE GOD IS SHARING
THAT KNOWLEDGE WITH YOU, RIGHT.
THE SAME REASON WHY THE DISCIPLES WOULD JUST
LEAVE THEIR JOBS, LEAVE THEIR FISHING BUSINESS
AND FOLLOW JESUS BEFORE HE WAS EVEN REVEALED AS THE CHRIST.
THERE WAS A KNOWING THAT, I NEED TO FOLLOW THIS MAN.
YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE TIMES WHERE PEOPLE JUST
HAVE THIS INSTINCTIVE STRONG KNOWING OF WHAT TO DO,
AND UNTIL THEY - THEY CAN'T SHAKE IT OFF
UNTIL THAT THING IS DONE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE HEARERS,
WHERE, YOU KNOW, EITHER MAYBE THAT YOU -
THEY CAN HEAR THE AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD,
WHICH IS NOT AS COMMON TODAY.
BUT IT CAN HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, IF MAYBE GOD
REALLY WANTS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION IN A MOMENT.
BUT THEN IT'S WHEN YOU CAN DISCERN GOD'S VOICE
AS A THOUGHT, OR A SERIES OF THOUGHTS.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE SPIRIT OF GOD
COMMUNES WITH YOU,
HE COMMUNES WITH YOUR SPIRIT.
AND WHEN YOUR SPIRIT IS TRANSLATING THAT TO YOUR SOUL,
YOU KNOW, IN YOUR - WHEN YOU'RE AWAKE,
IT CAN SOMETIMES BE RECEIVED AS THOUGHTS, RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY EVEN IN THE SCRIPTURES
THERE IS THIS -
THERE'S ALWAYS THIS WARFARE CONCERNING THE MIND.
BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE,
LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE DREAM YOU MIGHT
SEE SOMEONE YOU DON'T -
YOU JUST KNOW THEIR NAME,
LIKE YOU JUST KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
YOU HAVE THIS UNDERSTANDING.
EVEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD DREAMS
OR HAD ENCOUNTERS WITH ANGELS OR THE LORD,
THEY DON'T SPEAK WITH THEIR MOUTH.
IT'S LITERALLY LIKE SPIRIT TO SPIRIT, RIGHT.
AND YOU JUST HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING
OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BECAUSE IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM
IT'S LIKE - IT'S NOT THAT THERE IS, LIKE, DIALOG,
LIKE, HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
LIKE, I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU,
I'M COMMUNICATING YOU FROM SPIRIT TO SPIRIT.
SO THAT NOW TRANSLATES AS THOUGHTS.
SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN DISCERN WHEN
OH, THIS IS NOT MY THOUGHT,
BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LORD COMMUNICATING TO ME.
AND IN THE SAME WAY, THAT COULD HAPPEN
EVEN ON THE DARK SIDE AND THAT'S WHY
THERE IS ALWAYS THIS GUARD, YOU KNOW,
CASTING DOWN EVERY ARGUMENT.
WHEN THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT
THE WEAPONS OF OUR WARFARE.
YOU KNOW, THEN IT STARTS TALKING ABOUT
THINGS WITH THE MIND, RIGHT.
SO THEY'RE THE HEARERS.
AND THEN THERE ARE THE SEERS.
AND THE SEERS IS - THERE'S NATURAL SIGHT
AND THERE'S SPIRITUAL SIGHT.
AND SO YOU CAN BE IN A ROOM LIKE THIS
AND YOU SEE PEOPLE AROUND,
BUT THEN THERE ARE ANGELS IN THE ROOM
AT THE SAME TIME, BUT YOU MAY NOT SEE.
BUT THEN THE LORD MIGHT OPEN YOUR EYES TO SEE
WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE NATURAL THAT IS HIDDEN
FROM YOUR NATURAL EYES, RIGHT.
AND THEN THERE'S A SPIRITUAL SIDE,
WHICH IS VISIONS AND DREAMS.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I REALLY,
LIKE, I'M VERY HEAVY ON THE SPIRITUAL SIDE,
IS BECAUSE WHEN YOUR SPIRITUAL EYES
ARE, YOU KNOW, OPEN IN THE SENSE OF
WHEN YOU'RE EXPERIENCING THE VOICE OF GOD
THROUGH YOUR SPIRITUAL SENSES,
OR YOUR SPIRITUAL SIGHT, RATHER,
YOU CAN EXPERIENCE EVERY MANNER IN ONE.
YOU CAN HEAR, YOU CAN FEEL,
YOU CAN KNOW, YOU CAN SEE.
SO, IT'S A VERY POTENT WAY OF EXPERIENCING
THE VOICE OF GOD.
HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED HEARING GOD THAT WAY,
THROUGH THE SPIRITUAL SIGHT?
CAN YOU GIVE LIKE AN EXAMPLE OR A STORY?
YEAH. SO SPIRITUAL SIGHT,
SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW,
EVEN THE BOOK IS BIRTHED.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S VISIONS, IT'S DREAMS
AND I'VE HAD - THAT'S BEEN MY LIFE, YOU KNOW.
EVEN WITH A VISION,
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE,
WE WERE - A FRIEND OF MINE,
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO LIKE - WE WERE GOING TO
THE GROCERY STORE.
IT WAS VERY SIMPLE.
WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE BOTH NEED TO GET GROCERIES.
AND SHE'S LIKE, OH, STEPHANIE, LET ME JUST GO.
I'LL GET MY CAR AND LET'S GO.
THE MOMENT SHE, YOU KNOW SHE TOLD ME
SHE WAS GOING TO GET HER CAR,
I HAD THIS VISION.
AND RIGHT AS SHE WAS GETTING ON THE FREEWAY,
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT.
AND IT WAS THE PASSENGER SIDE
THAT GOT CRUSHED IN.
BUT THEN I WAS STILL A BIT IMMATURE
IN HOW I -
YOU KNOW, WHAT I DID WITH WHAT I KNEW.
AND I SHOULD HAVE CALLED HER TO SAY,
HEY, DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
I WAS SELFISH AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M GOOD.
I WAS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT -
AND LITERALLY SO SHE GOES BY HERSELF,
AND A FEW MINUTES LATER SHE CALLS ME,
I JUST GOT IN AN ACCIDENT.
AND IT WAS EXACTLY WHEN SHE WAS GETTING ON THE FREEWAY,
A CAR SMASHED.
AND I WAS LIKE, BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE
BEEN SITTING THERE.
SO THAT WAS A BIG MOMENT FOR YOU.
YEAH.
BUT I'VE SEEN LIKE GOD LITERALLY HAS SAVED MY LIFE
LITERALLY THROUGH DREAMS AND VISIONS,
THROUGH THE MESSAGES.
YOU KNOW, GROWING UP,
THEY WERE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO HARM US
IN DIFFERENT WAYS, POISON, ASSASSINATION.
BUT THE LORD LITERALLY PROTECTED US
BY GIVING US A FOREWARNING,
HEY, THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BRING THIS,
OR THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND TOLD US WHAT TO DO.
AND THAT'S JUST, I DON'T KNOW, THAT BRINGS SO MUCH
REASSURANCE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR.
IF WE JUST KEEP OUR FOCUS ON HIM
AND, LIKE, THAT'S PSALMS 91,
HE IS OUR DWELLING PLACE.
THAT'S RIGHT.
HE WILL PROTECT US.
WE'LL ABIDE IN THE SHADOW OF THE ALMIGHTY.
NOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT DREAMS.
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING PROPHETIC DREAMS,
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, AND HOW DOES SOMEONE
STEWARD THAT?
YEAH. YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL,
IT BEGINS WITH A PLACE OF HUNGER.
I BELIEVE THAT DESPERATION IS A WOMB
FOR TRANSFORMATION IN THE LIFE OF A BELIEVER.
WHEN WE GET TO THAT PLACE WHERE WE ARE DESPERATE
FOR THE VOICE OF GOD,
WE'RE DESPERATE FOR THE LEADING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
IN OUR LIVES.
AND IT'S - THAT DESPERATION COMES FROM A PLACE
WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT MY LIFE IS NOT MY OWN.
JUST BECAUSE THINGS ARE WORKING FOR ME
DOES NOT MEAN I'M IN THE THING
GOD ORDAINED ME TO DO.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU REALIZE THE NEED FOR THE VOICE OF GOD
IN YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE,
IT ACTIVATES THIS PLACE OF COMMUNION WITH GOD, RIGHT.
SO IN THE BOOK I GO THROUGH THIS JOURNEY
WHERE IT DOESN'T JUST DIVE IN, BOOM, TO DREAMS.
IT STARTS OFF WITH WHY YOU NEED THE VOICE OF GOD.
BECAUSE SO OFTEN WE GET COMFORTABLE,
WE GET INTO OUR ROUTINES, OUR PATTERNS,
AND THEN WE DON'T REALIZE, LIKE, I CAME FROM GOD.
AND SO IF HIS VOICE IS NOT LEADING MY LIFE,
WHAT AM I LIVING IN?
YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THERE IS A WAY
THAT SEEMS RIGHT TO A MAN, BUT IN THE END
IT LEADS TO DEATH, RIGHT.
SO WHEN WE COME TO THIS PLACE OF KNOWING WHY
WE NEED THE VOICE OF GOD, AND WE HAVE THE FAITH
TO BELIEVE THAT GOD CAN SPEAK TO ME IN THIS WAY,
IT STARTS FROM THAT FOUNDATION.
AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO DREAMS,
I THINK DREAMS IS SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S
A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS.
YEAH.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE -
THAT'S WHY THIS BOOK IS SO GREAT.
PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU, LIKE, I'M NOT A DREAMER,
AND IT'S LIKE, YOU ARE.
EVERYBODY IS A DREAMER.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN,
WE DREAM EVERY NIGHT.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE DON'T REMEMBER OUR DREAMS.
AND IF I HAVE THE ABILITY TO -
I ALREADY DREAM EVERY NIGHT.
NOW, HOW CAN I INVITE THE LORD INTO THAT SPACE, RIGHT?
OR IS THE LORD IN THAT SPACE
AND I'VE JUST NOT PERCEIVED IT?
YOU KNOW, THE WORD OF GOD TALKS ABOUT WHEN THE LORD SAID,
BEHOLD, I DO A NEW THING, RIGHT.
AND HE SAYS ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL THINGS
AND HE'S LIKE,
BUT DO YOU NOT PERCEIVE IT?
SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOD.
GOD IS ALWAYS MOVING.
HE'S ALWAYS SPEAKING.
THE PROBLEM IS
ARE WE RECEIVING AND PERCEIVING
YOU KNOW, THE MOVE OF GOD IN OUR LIVES?
AND SO WHEN WE GET TO THE PLACE OF RECOGNIZING
WOW, MY SLEEP CAN BE HOLY GROUND, RIGHT,
AND THEN HOW YOU GO TO BED MATTERS.
YOU KNOW, A DREAM IN THE SIMPLEST TERMS,
IT'S A CONVERSATION.
IT'S EITHER GOD STARTING A CONVERSATION
OR CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
THE DIFFERENCE IS, YOU KNOW,
GOD HAS MANY WAYS TO SPEAK TO US.
HE CAN SPEAK THROUGH IMAGERY.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE IMAGES THAT WILL
FEEL LIKE A PARABLE, BUT IN THE PLACE OF INTIMACY
YOU HAVE UNDERSTANDING OF IT, RIGHT.
JESUS SOMETIMES WILL SPEAK TO PEOPLE IN PARABLES.
BUT THEN HE WILL BRING HIS INNER CIRCLE
AND EXPLAIN THE PARABLE.
AND DREAMS ARE LIKE THAT, TOO.
DREAMS CAN FEEL LIKE A PARABLE.
IT'S LIKE ALL THESE IMAGES AND IT'S LIKE,
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
I WAS STANDING BY A FIRE TRUCK
AND THEN THE CLOUD TURNED BLUE, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON?
BUT WHEN YOU START STUDYING ALL THE SYMBOLS
AND YOU BRING IT IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD,
THEN THAT BECOMES - IN THE PLACE OF INTIMACY
YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS.
BASICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A DREAM,
WRITE IT DOWN.
YES.
AND THEN BRING IT TO A PLACE OF PRAYER.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH
PROPHETIC WORDS AS WELL,
AND I USED TO BE GUILTY OF THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW,
I WOULD RECEIVE IT AND THEN I'D BE LIKE, OKAY.
AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WRITE DOWN
THE THINGS THAT THE LORD SHOWS YOU,
THE THINGS THAT HE TELLS YOU,
AND THEN BRING IT IN PRAYER AND STEWARD THAT, YOU KNOW,
KEEP LOOKING BACK ON THOSE THINGS.
YEAH. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES
THERE'S AN INTERPRETATION YOU MAY GET RIGHT AWAY.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT TAKE TIME.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS JOURNAL,
THIS INVENTORY OF THE WORD OF GOD,
THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN LOOK BACK ON AND SAY
OH, MY GOSH, I UNDERSTAND THIS NOW.
THERE ARE DREAMS THAT YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND
FOR 20 YEARS.
I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
BUT THEN THERE'S A REASON GOD GAVE IT TO YOU
BECAUSE WHEN GOD - GOD ALWAYS SPEAKS WITH PURPOSE.
HE NEVER SPEAKS TO GOSSIP OR TO JUST RANDOMLY INFORM.
EVERY WORD HAS PURPOSE AND THERE ARE TIMES THAT
GOD WILL GIVE YOU A WORD AHEAD OF TIME
SO THAT WHEN YOU STEP INTO THE SEASON OF THAT WORD,
YOU'RE ANCHORED.
MM-HMM. AND IT KIND OF MAKES - IT GIVES YOU PEACE,
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OH, WOW, YOU KNEW
THIS WAS COMING AND YOU GAVE ME A HEAD'S UP.
EXACTLY.
BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT ME.
EXACTLY.
ONE OF THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT AS WELL
IS THAT THE FRUIT OF WHAT, LIKE, WHAT THE DREAM PRODUCES
HELPS INDICATE IF IT'S FROM THE LORD OR NOT.
THAT'S RIGHT.
CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THAT?
YEAH.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW,
LIKE, DIFFICULTY WITH RECOGNIZING, LIKE WAS IT GOD?
WAS IT THE ENEMY?
WAS IT ME?
YEAH.
AND YOU WOULD KNOW IN THE NATURE -
FIRST OF ALL, THE NATURE OF WHAT IT DOES IN YOU
BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN NEVER SEPARATE
A FRUIT FROM A SEED, RIGHT.
IF YOU SEE - IF YOU SEE THE FRUIT OF A TREE,
IT TELLS YOU WHAT WAS PLANTED IN THE GROUND, RIGHT.
WATERMELON SEED CANNOT GROW ORANGES.
AND SO IN OUR LIVES,
THERE'S CERTAIN DREAMS WE HAVE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN SOMEONE IS LIKE
HOW DO I KNOW A DREAM IS FROM THE ENEMY,
THE NATURE OF WHAT IT PRODUCES IN YOU
REPRESENTS HIS IMAGE.
BECAUSE AS WE KNOW JESUS,
IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD,
AND THE WORD WAS GOD, RIGHT.
SO THE WORD IS A PERSONALITY.
IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WORDS.
IT'S A PERSONALITY.
SO WHEN GOD GIVES YOU A WORD IN HOW -
IN WHICHEVER PLATFORM, HOWEVER HE DOES IT,
IT COMES WITH HIS NATURE.
SO WHAT IT PRODUCES IN YOU IS HIS NATURE.
SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT MAY BE SCARY,
BUT THEN YOU DON'T FEEL CRIPPLED IN FEAR, RIGHT.
IT'S NOT THE SPIRIT OF FEAR THAT OVERTAKES YOU.
THERE MIGHT BE A CAUTION IN YOUR SPIRIT, RIGHT.
THE ENEMY - THE DREAMS OF THE ENEMY
BRINGS THIS TORMENT, RIGHT.
GOD DOES NOT TORMENT US.
YOU KNOW, IT BRINGS US ANXIETY.
YOU KNOW, IT COULD CAUSE DEPRESSION.
OR IT PRODUCES HIS NATURE
WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE SOMETHING,
AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE YOU DREAMT ABOUT A PERSON
IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT AND THE OUTCOME OF THE DREAM
WAS YOU JUST GOSSIPING ABOUT IT.
LIKE, OH, I SAW I HAD A DREAM ABOUT THIS PERSON.
I THINK THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
I THINK THEY'RE A WITCH OR SOMETHING.
YOU DIDN'T - YOU NEVER PRAYED.
YOU NEVER ASKED THE LORD CONCERNING THIS.
YOU DIDN'T SEEK INSIGHT.
YOU'RE JUST GOSSIPING.
LIKE, IT LITERALLY ENDS IN GOSSIP.
YOU'RE CALLING YOUR FRIENDS.
YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, X, Y AND Z.
THAT'S NOT THE NATURE OF GOD, RIGHT.
AND SO IF THE LORD IS GIVING YOU A DREAM ABOUT
WARNING YOU ABOUT A PERSON,
THEN THERE'S ACTIONS THAT YOU WOULD TAKE,
BUT YOU WOULD TAKE THOSE ACTIONS
FROM THE PLACE OF LOVE.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZING, HEY,
THIS PERSON IS NOT GOOD IN MY LIFE
FOR THIS SEASON I'M IN
OR WHATEVER IS GOING ON WITH THEM,
BUT THERE IS STILL A LEVEL OF PROTECTION
IN WHAT YOU DO.
THERE ARE DREAMS FROM THE ENEMY THAT LITERALLY JUST
STEALS TIME FROM YOU, RIGHT.
YOU HAVE DREAMS WHERE SOMEONE MIGHT SEE SOMEONE
AND BELIEVE LIKE,
OH, I DREAMT ABOUT MY HUSBAND.
BUT THAT PERSON IS NOT IN AN ACTIVE RELATIONSHIP
WITH THEM.
THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
AND THEY'RE LITERALLY LETTING OTHER PEOPLE KNOW
BECAUSE THEY HAD THIS DREAM THAT, MR. WHATEVER
OR MRS. WHATEVER IS THEIR SPOUSE.
AND SO WHAT THAT DOES, THE ENEMY'S STEALING TIME.
HE'S DERAILING YOU.
EXACTLY.
HE WANTS TO STEAL YOUR YOUTH FROM YOU.
AND SO HE HAS YOU WASTING TIME
LONGING AND OBSESSING OVER SOMEBODY
WHO IS NEVER - WAS NEVER YOURS TO BEGIN WITH, RIGHT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THE ENEMY
IS TO STEAL, KILL AND DESTROY.
SO YOU SEE THAT EVEN IN WHAT IT PRODUCES IN A PERSON.
WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF TIME.
THE LAST QUESTION I'M JUST GONNA ASK YOU,
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE LORD
HAS PUT ON YOUR HEART THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE
WITH THE AUDIENCE, OR AN ENCOURAGING WORD
FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE HUNGRY FOR MORE OF GOD?
YEAH.
I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, HONESTLY,
TO KNOW THAT GOD SPEAKS.
OUR WALK WITH CHRIST IS NOT SOMETHING -
IT'S NOT LIKE AN OUTFIT, YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON,
AND RELIGIOUS DUTIES AND ACTIVITIES.
IT IS INTIMACY.
IT IS A COMMUNION WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU
GAVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS,
YOU RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT,
WHO IS GOD, GOD IN YOU.
AND SO THE QUESTION IS,
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE KNOWING THAT
GOD IS IN YOU,
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH GOD, RIGHT?
AND SO IT'S NOT FOR US TO SHY AWAY FROM IT,
BUT IT'S FOR US TO GET BACK TO A PLACE OF HUNGER
AND DESPERATION AND KNOW THAT NOBODY IS SPECIAL,
BUT WHAT ACTIVATES, YOU KNOW, A PERSON'S WALK
IN INTIMACY WITH GOD IS HUNGER.
CAN YOU DO JUST A PRAYER FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING
THAT WANT TO HAVE THAT INTIMACY
WITH HOLY SPIRIT?
ABSOLUTELY.
HEAVENLY FATHER, I JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE LISTENING.
AND, LORD GOD, I JUST PRAY THAT EVEN FOR
YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS WHO ARE SAYING THAT,
LORD, I WANT TO HAVE THIS INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP
WITH YOU,
LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD REVEAL TO THEM
WHAT IS KEEPING THEM FULL,
THE WRONG THINGS THAT ARE KEEPING THEM FULL,
THAT THEIR APPETITE IS NOT GETTING TO THAT PLACE
OF HUNGER AND DESPERATION.
AND THAT, LORD, AS YOU REVEAL IT, O, GOD,
THAT THEY WILL COME IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU
FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE STRIPPED AWAY
IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
AND SO, HEAVENLY FATHER, I THANK YOU.
OUR LIFE ONLY HAS MEANING IN YOU.
THE END OF OUR LIFE CAN ONLY BE CALLED GOOD
WHEN IT HAS FOLLOWED THAT WHICH YOU WROTE
EVEN BEFORE WE GOT HERE,
THE COUNSEL OF GOD.
AND SO I PRAY, LORD GOD, THAT YOUR CHILDREN
WILL GET TO A PLACE
WHERE THEY KNOW THAT, LORD GOD,
THE ONLY WAY FORWARD IS KNOWING WHEN I HAVE
THE CONFIDENCE THAT I'M WALKING WITH THE LORD
IN ALL THINGS,
AND I'M LED BY HIS VOICE.
AND SO, HEAVENLY FATHER,
I PRAY THAT YOU WILL OPEN YOUR EYES
AND YOU WILL LEAD THEM,
IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN.
AMEN. THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU.
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YEAH. YEAH.
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