REBECCA LAMB WEISS: ALIENS.
THE NEPHILIM.
SONS OF GOD.
TRANSHUMANISM, AND MORE.
I SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT ALL OF THIS WITH RICK RENNER.
REBECCA: WELL, I AM JOINED HERE TODAY WITH RICK RENNER
ALL THE WAY FROM MOSCOW.
LET ME SEE IF I GET MY WORDS OUT CORRECTLY. RUSSIA.
AND YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK.
RICK RENNER: I DO.
REBECCA: LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
RICK: ALL RIGHT.
REBECCA:FALLEN ANGELS,
GIANTS,
MONSTERS IN THE WORLD BEFORE THE FLOOD .
NOW, THIS IS,
I THINK, BECOMING ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR TOPICS
TALKED ABOUT IN CHRISTIANITY.
IF YOU GET ON YOUTUBE, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS
ON THE NEPHILIM.
RICK: I AM SHOCKED BY HOW MANY VIDEOS
TALK ABOUT THE NEPHILIM.
REBECCA: I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THAT
MAYBE THAN IN SOME OTHER TOPICS.
RICK: IT'S LIKE IT'S JUST WOKEN UP,
PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT EVERYWHERE.
REBECCA: I KNOW, AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT,
EVEN TEN YEARS AGO,
PEOPLE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT IT AS THEY ARE NOW.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE PEOPLE ARE AWAKENING.
RICK: YOU KNOW WHAT, REBECCA, THAT BOOK WAS NOT SCHEDULED
UNTIL A YEAR FROM NOW AND THE HOLY SPIRIT SAID TO ME,
NO, YOU NEED TO DO THIS NOW.
I DID NOT REALIZE WHAT A RAGE THE SUBJECT WAS.
AND THAT BOOK JUST CAME OUT
AND IT IS ALREADY A BESTSELLER.
REBECCA: I'M NOT SURPRISED.
RICK: PEOPLE ARE JUST DEVOURING THE SUBJECT.
REBECCA: WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT YOU
IS YOU ARE A SCHOLAR.
YOU UNDERSTAND GREEK THOROUGHLY.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS THAT KIND OF UNDERSTANDING,
THEY'RE ABLE TO BRING A LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING THROUGH SCRIPTURE
THAT MAYBE THE AVERAGE PERSON CANNOT,
BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO WRITE THIS
IN A WAY THAT ANYONE CAN UNDERSTAND.
RICK: WELL, THANK YOU.
REBECCA: AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT
BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES SCHOLARLY WORK
CAN BE A LITTLE UP HERE
AND IT CAN BE HARD FOR PEOPLE,
BUT YOU TAKE IT AND YOU BRING IT
SO THE COMMON PERSON CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE NEPHILIM TOPIC IS SENSATIONALIZED
A LITTLE BIT AND WE NEED GROUND IT IN GOD'S WORD
BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT,
BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT FROM A GROUNDED PLACE.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE AN EXPERT HERE TODAY
TALK ABOUT THAT.
RICK: ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO IT.
REBECCA: LET'S DIVE INTO IT.
RICK: OUR MOTTOE IS TEACHING YOU CAN TRUST,
SO WE ALWAYS TRY TO BRING SOMETHING THAT'S BALANCED.
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DEFENDED.
AND SOMETHING PEOPLE CAN REALLY STAND ON.
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE WORLD NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND
WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
THAT'S WHO WE ARE.
THAT'S WHO GOD
HAS CALLED US TO BE, AND I LOVE THAT.
OKAY.
SO YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO WRITE THIS BOOK.
IT WAS SCHEDULED A YEAR LATER.
THE HOLY SPIRIT PROMPTED YOU.
HOW QUICKLY DID YOU WRITE THIS BOOK?
RICK: WELL, I STARTED ON DECEMBER 15TH
AND I FINISHED ON DECEMBER 31ST.
REBECCA: OH, YOU DID IT DURING THE HOLIDAYS, TOO?
SO 15 DAYS.
RICK: BUT FOR US, THAT'S NOT HOLIDAYS.
IN RUSSIA, CHRISTMAS IS JANUARY 7TH.
SO ABOUT 15, 16 DAYS.
REBECCA: ALMOST 500 PAGES.
RICK: YEAH.
BUT, REBECCA,
I CARRIED THAT IN ME FOR A LONG TIME.
I MEAN, I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING AND RESEARCHING.
AND FINALLY I SAID, OKAY,
I'VE GOT 15 DAYS TO DO THIS.
I SAT DOWN AND, BAM, HERE IT CAME.
REBECCA: AND I THINK TOO, THOUGH, THAT JUST SPEAKS THAT
GOD REALLY PROMPTED YOU AND HIS GRACE WAS ON YOU
FOR THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT JUST AFFIRMS THAT THE LORD IS IN THIS
BECAUSE YOU -- AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
YOU'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR 15 YEARS.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR AUDIENCE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OR KNOWLEDGE
OF THIS.
YOU'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
OKAY.
SO LET'S GET INTO THIS IN THE BEGINNING.
SO WE ALL KNOW THE STORY OF THE FLOOD.
BUT THERE WAS THIS WHOLE WORLD BEFORE THE FLOOD.
THERE'S NOT TONS OF SCRIPTURE ON IT,
BUT THERE'S ENOUGH IN THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT
TO GIVE US SOME UNDERSTANDING AND CONTEXT,
BUT I BELIEVE IT'S ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT FOR US
TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE FLOOD
AND WHY THE FLOOD, BECAUSE JESUS SAYS, AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH,
SO SHALL IT BE FOR THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN.
SO WHY DON'T YOU PAINT TO US
WHAT WAS THE WORLD LIKE PRE-NOAH, PRE-FLOOD?
RICK: WELL, IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE FLOOD,
SOMETHING VERY NEFARIOUS HAPPENED.
GOD HAD SENT ANGELS OVER THE EARTH TO HELP MAN
IN HIS FALLEN STATE,
WHICH WOULD BE JUST LIKE GOD.
GOD JUST LOVES PEOPLE.
BUT THOSE ANGELS, WHEN THEY PUT THEIR EYES ON WOMEN,
WE'RE TOLD IN GENESIS 6:2, THEY LUSTED AFTER THEM
WHEN THEY SAW THAT THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL.
AND WHEN YOU READ THE BOOK OF ENOCH.
NOW, THE BOOK OF ENOCH IS NOT BIBLE,
BUT IT IS VERY ANCIENT COMMENTARY.
AND IN FACT, THE FIRST 36 CHAPTERS OF THE BOOK OF ENOCH
ARE OLDER THAN THE BOOK OF GENESIS.
SO THEY'RE REALLY ANCIENT COMMENTARY.
AND IN THOSE CHAPTERS,
IT SAYS THAT THIS GROUP OF ANGELS CAME TOGETHER
AND THEY SWORE AN OATH TOGETHER THAT THEY WOULD DEFY GOD,
AND CORPORALLY,
THEY WOULD DESCEND INTO THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE,
TAKE WOMEN, AND THEY WOULD MATE WITH THEM
AND PRODUCE THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE READ IN GENESIS 6:2.
AND THERE'S SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING IN THAT VERSE.
IT SAYS, THEY TOOK WIVES OR THEY TOOK WOMEN TO MATE WITH.
THE WORD "TOOK" IS VERY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE IT IMPLIES THAT
SOME OF THIS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN VOLUNTARY.
THEY TOOK THEM.
SO THERE'S THE IDEA OF ABDUCTION.
MAYBE EVEN RAPE.
BUT THESE WOMEN SUDDENLY WERE MATING TOGETHER
WITH THESE ANGELIC CREATURES, AND THE WOMEN BECAME PREGNANT
AND THEY GAVE BIRTH TO WHAT THE BIBLE CALLS NEPHILIM.
AND GENESIS 6:4 SAYS,
THESE NEPHILIM OR THESE GIANTS WERE MEN OF RENOWN.
WELL, THAT GOES BACK TO GREEK MYTHOLOGY AND ANCIENT MYTHOLOGY.
THE DEMIGODS, WHICH WERE HALF-HUMAN, HALF-GOD.
ALL OF THAT MYTHOLOGY REALLY HAS THE BARE BONES OF TRUTH
FROM GENESIS CHAPTER SIX.
ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
REBECCA: AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WHEN YOU STUDY
THESE DIFFERENT CIVILIZATIONS,
THEY ALL KIND OF HAD A PANTHEON OF DIFFERENT GODS.
RICK: THEY HAD A PANTHEON.
AND IF YOU REALLY COMPARE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS,
WHETHER IT WAS A SYRIAN OR GREEK OR ROMAN OR EGYPTIAN,
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME STORY OF THE SAME GODS.
MAYBE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NAMES, BUT THE BARE BONES ARE THE SAME.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, REBECCA,
THOSE PEOPLE WERE NOT JUST PEOPLE
WITH OVERACTIVE IMAGINATIONS.
THEY DEVELOPED ASTRONOMY, ASTROLOGY, GEOMETRY.
THEY DID ARCHITECTURE, LOGIC,
THE FOUNDATION OF MODERN SOCIETY.
ALL CAME FROM THEM.
THESE WERE PEOPLE WHO REALLY RECALLED A MOMENT IN THE PAST
WHEN CELESTIAL BEINGS CAME OUT OF THE HEAVENS
AND COPULATED WITH WOMEN AND THE WOMEN GAVE BIRTH TO GIANTS.
THAT IS -- THAT'S NOT LEGEND.
THAT IS FACT.
REBECCA: AND THE OTHER THING IS, WELL, THIS LEADS ME
TO A QUESTION: HAVE THEY FOUND EVER THE BONES
OR ANY KIND OF REMAINS OF GIANTS?
RICK: INDEED, THEY HAVE,
BUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY WELL CONCEALED.
REBECCA: REALLY?
RICK: NOW, I KNOW WHERE THERE IS A PLACE RIGHT NOW IN TURKEY
WHERE THERE IS A GIANT BURIED.
REBECCA: REALLY?
RICK: BUT IT'S CONCEALED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE LOOTED.
BUT THERE REALLY ARE THE RUINS OF GIANTS AROUND THE WORLD.
THERE ARE.
REBECCA: OKAY.
RICK: I JUST DID AN INTERESTING SHOW WITH JIMMY EVANS
AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT A CAVE IN ARIZONA
WHERE THERE ARE RUINS OF GIANTS.
I MEAN, THERE REALLY ARE.
REBECCA: MAN.
SO WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT THE WATCHERS,
THESE ANGELS THAT WERE ASSIGNED TO PROTECT THE EARTH
AND HELP MANKIND, THEY DEFIED GOD WITH USING THEIR FREEWILL
TO DEFY GOD,
CAME TO THE EARTH, TOOK WOMEN AS WIVES,
THESE WOMEN, BEARED GIANTS.
BUT ANOTHER THING THAT THE BOOK OF ENOCH TELLS US
IS THAT THESE WATCHERS EDUCATED OR THEY REALLY DEFILED MANKIND
THROUGH THEIR KNOWLEDGE.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
RICK: THE BOOK OF ENOCH SAYS EXPLICITLY THAT
THEY TAUGHT ALL KINDS OF WARFARE.
NOW, THERE WAS WARFARE BEFORE THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT,
REALLY, THE ART OF WARFARE. WEAPONRY, MATALLURGY.
THEY TAUGHT ASTRONOMY.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT SAYS EVEN THEY WERE THE ONES
THAT BROUGHT COSMETICS INTO THE EARTH.
THEY TAUGHT AMORS,
WHICH IS THE WORD FOR VARIOUS KINDS OF LOVES.
THE CONSTRAINTS OF PASSIONS, ALL KINDS OF SEXUAL PERVERSIONS,
ALL OF THAT CAME FROM THESE FALLEN ANGELS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE WORLD TODAY,
THERE ARE MEGALITHIC STRUCTURES
WHICH NOBODY KNOWS HOW ANCIENT PEOPLE BUILT.
YOU CAN GO TO BAALBEK,
IF YOU EVER HEARD OF IT.
IT'S IN LEBANON WHERE THE STONES ARE SO MASSIVE,
IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE
FOR ANCIENT PEOPLE TO HAVE MOVED THEM.
YOU CAN GO TO PLACES LIKE STONEHENGE.
MY WIFE AND I WERE JUST THERE.
YOU CAN GO TO SOUTH AMERICA.
YOU CAN GO ALL OVER THE WORLD.
AND THERE'S THESE MASSIVE STRUCTURES WHICH ARE CUT
SO PRECISELY WITHOUT MODERN TOOLS.
HOW DID THEY DO THAT?
THEY WERE TAUGHT HOW TO DO THESE THINGS BY THE ANGELS
WHO BROUGHT ALL KINDS OF TECHNICAL SKILLS TO PEOPLE.
REBECCA: IS IT TRUE ALSO
THAT ASTROLOGY AND THE OCCULT...
RICK: ALL OF IT CAME FROM THERE.
REBECCA: SEE, AND THIS IS WHAT'S SO WILD TO ME
IS LIKE MY WHOLE LIFE,
I WOULD ASK PEOPLE LIKE WHERE ASTROLOGY IS SO BIG RIGHT NOW,
ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE MY AGE.
THEY JUST READ IT AS TRUTH.
RICK: REALLY?
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
IT'S ALL THE RAGE,
YOU KNOW,
'CAUSE THE NEW AGE IS SO POPULAR NOW
AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR IDENTITY,
SO THEY SAY, OH, I'M A PISCES.
OH, I'M A LIBRA. AND I SEE IT ALL THE TIME
ALMOST EVERY DAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND I ALWAYS WONDERED LIKE WHERE DOES ASTROLOGY COME FROM?
WHEN I BEGAN TO STUDY THIS ABOUT THE WATCHERS,
I GO,
OH, MY GOODNESS.
THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE BECAUSE ASTROLOGY IS SOMETHING
WE DON'T PRACTICE AS BELIEVERS.
RICK: EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THOSE MEGALITHIC STRUCTURES,
THEY'RE ASTROLOGICAL CENTERS
WHERE THEY WERE STUDYING THE COSMOS AND THE STARS.
THAT'S ALL STUFF THAT CAME FROM THE FALLEN ANGELS.
REBECCA: SO THEY NOT ONLY GAVE PERVERTED KNOWLEDGE,
BUT THEY ALSO GAVE US KNOWLEDGE THAT GAVE MANKIND
TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANTAGES, AND THROUGH THAT KNOWLEDGE,
THEY WERE ABLE TO BUILD THESE MEGALITHIC STRUCTURES?
RICK: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: YEAH.
BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER WAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PYRAMIDS
AND EVERYTHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SO FUNNY
IS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS,
AND A LOT OF THIS KNOWLEDGE IS CONCEALED.
PEOPLE COME UP WITH THESE CRAZY THEORIES
THAT LIKE ALIENS BUILT THE PYRAMIDS
AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THAT?
RICK: ACTUALLY, THERE'S A TV PROGRAM ABOUT ANCIENT ALIENS
REBECCA: YEP, I KNOW THAT PROGRAM!
RICK: I GET SUCH A KICK OUT OF IT
WHEN THEY SAY -- ANCIENT ALIEN THEORISTS SAY,
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT,
THEY HAVE MESSED UP THE STORY SO BAD.
IF THEY WOULD JUST GO TO GENESIS CHAPTER SIX, IT WASN'T ALIENS.
IT WAS FALLEN ANGELS.
REBECCA: YEAH.
SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE FALLEN ANGELS?
THEY WERE ESSENTIALLY LIKE THE GODS ON EARTH.
MANKIND PROBABLY SERVED THEM TO SOME EXTENT
BECAUSE THEY WERE MORE POWERFUL.
BUT WHAT WERE THE GIANTS DOING
AND WHAT WERE THESE FALLEN ANGELS DOING?
RICK: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE TOLD IN SCRIPTURE,
PARTICULARLY IN II PETER 2 AND THE BOOK OF JUDE
THAT GOD INCARCERATED THEM, GOD GRABBED THEM
AND DELIVERED THEM INTO CHAINS OF DARKNESS,
WHICH WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE JUDGMENT FOR AN ANGEL.
THINK ABOUT IT. ANGELS ARE MADE TO BE MOVERS.
THEY'RE KNOWN FOR SPEED, FOR MOVEMENT,
AND GOD PUT THEM IN CHAINS.
THEY CAN'T MOVE.
THEY WERE CREATURES OF LIGHT.
GOD PUT THEM IN DARKNESS.
AND THE WORD "DARKNESS" IN GREEK
DESCRIBES A PLACE ABSOLUTELY MUTE OF ALL LIGHT.
IT IS DARKNESS THAT YOU CAN FEEL.
AND NOW THESE MIGHTY ANGELS ARE INCARCERATED.
THEY ARE UNABLE TO MOVE.
THEY'RE IN ABSOLUTE DARKNESS.
AND THEY'RE CHAINED TO THERE, WE'RE TOLD IN PETER,
UNTIL THE DAY OF THE GREAT JUDGMENT.
AND GUESS WHAT THE WORD "JUDGEMENT" IS?
THE GREEK WORD CRISIS.
WHICH MEANS ON THAT DAY
IT'S GOING TO BE THE GREATEST CRISIS IMAGINABLE
FOR THAT FIRST GROUP
WHO DID THIS BEFORE THE FLOOD. WOW.
REBECCA: WOW.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BOOK OF ENOCH.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
IS YOU CLARIFIED,
YOU SAID THE BOOK OF ENOCH IS NOT IN CANON,
BUT IT IS QUOTED AND REFERENCED IN THE BIBLE,
AND THE WATCHERS ARE REFERENCED IN THE BIBLE
AND IT'S IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
LIKE IN THE BOOK OF JUDE AND THE BOOK OF PETER
THAT THE BOOK OF ENOCH IS REFERENCED.
RICK: PETER AND JUDE ARE CLEARLY CONNECTED TO THE BOOK OF ENOCH.
AND WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS JUDE WAS THE HALF-BROTHER OF JESUS,
HALF-BROTHER.
BECAUSE JESUS' FATHER WAS GOD AND JUDE'S FATHER WAS JOSEPH.
BUT IF JUDE WAS QUOTING FROM THE BOOK OF ENOCH,
IT MEANT THE FAMILY OF MARY AND JOSEPH
CONSIDERED THE BOOK OF ENOCH VERY SERIOUS
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOT BIBLICAL.
AND WE KNOW THAT BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW TESTAMENT,
THE INTERTESTIMONIAL PERIOD, THERE WAS A GREAT FASCINATION
WITH PAST THINGS AND FUTURE THINGS.
AND OUTSIDE OF THE BIBLE ITSELF,
THE BOOK OF ENOCH WAS THE MOST POPULAR BOOK BEING READ
DURING THE TIME OF JESUS.
REBECCA: THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER HEARING WAS THAT IN JESUS' DAY,
THEY ALL HAD AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAD TAKEN PLACE
WITH THE WATCHERS AND ALL THAT,
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY PETER QUOTED IT.
ALSO WHAT'S INTERESTING
AND NEEDS TO BE SAID ABOUT THE BOOK OF ENOCH
IS IT WAS FOUND IN THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS
IN ITS ENTIRETY. AND SEE,
FOR ME THAT KIND OF CONFIRMS TO ME
THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO THE BOOK OF ENOCH
FOR THE FACT THAT IT WAS FOUND IN THOSE DEAD --
THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
RICK: AND THERE'S ANOTHER BOOK.
THEY FOUND THE BOOK OF THE GIANTS.
REBECCA: I DON'T KNOW THAT!
RICK: THEY FOUND IT IN FRAGMENTS,
BUT ENOUGH OF IT THAT YOU CAN PUT IT TOGETHER
AND YOU CAN READ WHAT IT SAYS.
REBECCA: DO YOU KNOW WHO WROTE THAT BOOK?
RICK: IT'S ANCIENT.
THEY THINK IT'S PRE-FLOOD.
I MEAN, IT'S THAT ANCIENT. AND THE BOOK OF THE GIANTS
DESCRIBES THE BEHAVIOR OF THE GIANTS,
WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHILE THE WORLD WAS FILLED WITH CORRUPTION
AND VIOLENCE.
THEY WERE CANNIBALS.
THEY WERE DRINKING BLOOD.
IT'S ALL IN THE BOOK OF THE GIANTS,
WHICH IS AN AMAZING READ.
REBECCA: AND WHAT'S VERY INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZED
BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOESN'T GO INTO SUPER DETAIL
ABOUT HOW WE KNOW THAT THE WORLD WAS VIOLENT AND EVIL,
BUT WE DON'T REALIZE THE FULL EXTENT LIKE YOU'RE SAYING
THAT THESE GIANTS WERE EATING PEOPLE, DRINKING PEOPLE'S BLOOD.
AND SO IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT THAT GOD LOOKED UPON THE EARTH
AND BASICALLY SAID HE REGRETTED.
RICK: BUT THERE'S ONE MORE THING.
REBECCA: OH, TELL ME.
RICK: THE BOOK OF THE GIANTS SAYS THAT
JUST LIKE THE ANGELS MADE IT WITH WOMEN, THE GIANTS,
WHEN THEY WERE BORN, BEGIN TO MATE WITH ANIMALS.
BESTIALITY.
THAT'S WHERE IT STARTED. AND THE ANIMALS GAVE BIRTH TO MONSTERS,
AND THAT'S WHY THE WORD "MONSTERS" IS
ON THE COVER OF THAT BOOK.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT ANCIENT HISTORY AND ANCIENT MYTHOLOGY
FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD,
THEY TELL STORIES OF STRANGE HYBRID CREATURES.
WELL, GUESS WHAT.
SOME OF IT IS LEGENDIZED.
BUT IT ORIGINALLY GOES BACK TO THAT EVENT
WHEN THESE GIANTS SLEPT WITH ANIMALS
AND THE ANIMALS GAVE BIRTH TO BEASTS OR MONSTROUS CREATURES.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S WHY PROBABLY IN GREEK MYTHOLOGY,
THERE'S LIKE THE CENTAURS OR LIKE THE HALF-HUMAN, HALF...
RICK: THAT STARTED IN REALITY.
EXACTLY.
GOOD.
REBECCA: MAN. AND SO THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS,
SO THE BOOK OF ENOCH WAS ANCIENT, WRITTEN BY ENOCH.
RICK: THE FIRST 36 CHAPTERS, MOST LIKELY.
REBECCA: AND SO NOAH HAD TO CARRY THAT BOOK.
RICK: HE CARRIED IT ONTO THE ARK.
WHICH MEANS HE VALUED THE REVELATION OF HIS PREDECESSORS.
I THINK THAT'S POWERFUL.
HE REALLY LISTENED TO HIS GREAT, GREAT GRANDFATHER,
WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN ENOCH, AND HE CARRIED THAT REVELATION
WITH HIM ONTO THE ARK.
REBECCA: YEAH, IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH.
HE KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO CARRY IT WITH HIM.
AND ALSO ENOCH HAD THIS SPECIAL KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
I MEAN, WE KNOW GOD TOOK HIM UP TO HEAVEN
INSTEAD OF HIM DYING.
I MEAN, THAT'S PROPHETIC.
RICK: AND ENOCH'S NAME IS PROPHETIC.
REBECCA: WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
RICK: IT MEANS TO TEACH OR TO CORRECT.
AND WE KNOW THAT DURING HIS GENERATION,
HE TRIED TO BRING A CORRECTION TO WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
DID THE WATCHERS GO TO ENOCH AND ASK HIM TO REPRESENT HIM TO GOD?
REALLY?
RICK: THEY DID. THAT'S WHAT'S RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF ENOCH.
THEY ACTUALLY WENT TO ENOCH, TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH ENOCH,
AND ENOCH TRIED TO CORRECT THEM,
ENOCH TRIED TO REBUKE THEM.
THEY REFUSED TO LISTEN. AND ENOCH JUST DREW NEAR TO THE LORD
AND THE BIBLE SAYS GOD TOOK HIM.
REBECCA: WOW.
RICK: BUT HE WAS VERY FAITHFUL.
SO THINK ABOUT IT.
ALL OF NOAH'S PREDECESSORS,
ALL HIS GRANDFATHERS AND GREAT GRANDFATHERS
AND GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHERS,
THEY ALL WALKED WITH GOD
AND THEY BEGAN TO PASS THEIR REVELATION
FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION TO GENERATION.
SO THAT BY THE TIME
IT CAME TO NOAH,
HE WAS A MAN THAT HAD BEEN PREPARED.
REBECCA: YEAH.
HE DIDN'T JUST WAKE UP ONE DAY AND HEAR FROM GOD.
HE HAD BEEN PREPARED FROM THE MOMENT OF HIS BIRTH
BY WHAT GOD SAID TO HIS FOREFATHERS
AND HE WAS REALLY PREPARED.
AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO
TO PASS REVELATION TO OUR KIDS.
SO THAT OUR KIDS,
LET'S GIVE THEM A FOUNDATION.
LET'S GIVE THEM A JUMPSTART.
THAT'S WHAT NOAH HAD.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
AND THERE'S A CONNECTION WITH METHUSELAH.
METHUSELAH WAS NOAH'S GRANDFATHER,
AND HE LIVED A SUPER LONG TIME.
I'VE KNOWN THAT SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID.
BUT I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
RICK: HIS NAME MEANS WHEN HE DIES, IT SHALL COME.
AND IT WAS A PROPHETIC NAME, WHICH MEANT BY THE TIME HE DIES,
IF MAN HAS NOT SELF-CORRECTED, HIS DEATH WILL SIGNAL
OR TRIGGER THAT SOON THE JUDGMENT WILL BE RELEASED.
NOW, REBECCA,
WHAT'S AMAZING TO ME IS NOAH STARTED BUILDING THE ARK
WHEN HE WAS 500.
HE ENTERED INTO THE ARK
WHEN HE WAS 600.
SO THEY WERE BUILDING FOR 600 YEARS.
AND WE'RE TOLD IN II PETER CHAPTER 2
THAT NOAH WAS A PREACHER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
SO HE WASN'T JUST BUILDING THE ARK.
HE WAS PREACHING.
HE WAS SAYING,
HEY, GUYS,
I'M BUILDING THIS BOAT
BECAUSE THERE IS A JUDGMENT COMING.
AND PEOPLE SCOFFED.
PEOPLE LAUGHED.
I SAY THEY LIVED IN THE SHADOW OF THE ARK AND LAUGHED ABOUT IT.
AND THEY DID NOT KNOW UNTIL THE MOMENT THE FLOOD CAME
THIS THING WAS REAL.
ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
REBECCA: WELL, IT'S SUCH A POWERFUL STORY
BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, IT SHOWS GOD'S GRACE.
I THINK THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING,
YOU SEE,
I THINK GOD GETS SO MISCONSTRUED SOMETIMES
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CONTEXT TO WHAT'S IN SCRIPTURE,
AND SO PEOPLE MIGHT THINK,
OH, WHY DID GOD LOOK ON THE EARTH AND REGRET IT
OR WHY DID GOD SEND A FLOOD?
BUT IN REALITY, GOD GAVE SO MUCH GRACE FOR SO LONG.
RICK: 120 YEARS.
REBECCA: YEAH, AND STILL THEY MOCKED NOAH.
AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT NOAH WAS TRYING TO PREACH.
SO HE WAS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO REPENT AND TURN
AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY HARDENED THEIR HEARTS
UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE.
RICK: GOD WAS SO PATIENT, HE WAITED UNTIL THERE WERE
ONLY EIGHT PEOPLE LEFT THAT WERE UNAFFECTED.
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
RICK: TALK ABOUT MERCY.
AND THINK ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS EVEN TODAY
GOD IS NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH.
HE'S NOT TARDY.
HE IS NOT LATE.
YOU KNOW PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHY HASN'T JESUS COME?
BECAUSE HE'S BEING PATIENT.
GOD IS NOT IN A RUSH TO JUDGE.
BUT ONE OF THESE DAYS, THE CLOCK WILL STOP TICKING
AND THE NEXT JUDGMENT WILL COME.
IT WILL.
REBECCA: AND THAT JUST REMINDS ME.
THERE'S SO MANY STORIES IN THE BIBLE
WHERE IT'S THAT SAME FRAMEWORK
WHERE I THINK ABOUT NINEVEH, SODOM, AND GOMORRAH.
GOD GIVES ALL THESE LIKE EXTENSIONS OF GRACE.
AND NINEVEH, THEY REPENTED. SODOM AND GOMORRAH, THEY DIDN'T,
BUT IT'S THAT SAME CONCEPT THAT GOD WAS PATIENT, YOU KNOW.
BUT WHEN THE TIME RAN OUT, JUDGMENT CAME.
RICK: ACTUALLY, IN THAT BOOK, I GIVE MANY EXAMPLES
OF GOD NOT RUSHING TO JUDGE.
GOD IS ALWAYS PATIENT.
HE ALWAYS GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY.
BUT THE CLOCK DOES EVENTUALLY STOP.
REBECCA: AND I THINK TOO THAT THIS BOOK WILL HELP BRING LIGHT
TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT AN OLD TESTAMENT GOD
AND A NEW TESTAMENT GOD.
IT'S THE SAME GOD.
RICK: AMEN.
REBECCA: AND WHEN YOU HAVE THIS CONTEXT, YOU UNDERSTAND
THAT GOD IS MERCIFUL THROUGH AND THROUGH.
HE'S THE SAME TODAY, YESTERDAY, AND FOREVER,
MEANING THAT HE WAS MERCIFUL IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
AND WHEN YOU REALLY SEE HOW BAD IT IS,
YOU'RE, I REMEMBER THINKING,
OH, MAN, GOD, NO WONDER THANK GOODNESS YOU BROUGHT THE FLOOD.
YOU KNOW, HE RESET HUMANITY.
RICK: THE REASON I WROTE THAT BOOK IS BECAUSE JESUS SAID,
AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH, THE GREEK USES THE WORDH "SPER .
IT MEANS EXACTLY PRECISELY AS IT WAS,
SO SHALL IT BE ALSO IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE COMING
OF THE SON OF MAN.
SO IF WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE AGE,
JESUS SAID, TURN AROUND,
LOOK AT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD BEFORE THE FLOOD.
IT'S GOING TO BE REPLICATED AT THE END OF THE AGE.
SO BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE AGE,
WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME PRETTY NEFARIOUS, DARK, BIZARRE STUFF
TAKE PLACE.
NOW, WE'RE ALREADY LIVING IN THE DAY OF REAL NONSENSE.
I MEAN, WHO WOULD HAVE IMAGINED THE STUFF WE'RE SEEING TODAY.
BUT IT'S GOING TO GET CRAZIER
AS WE COME CLOSER AND CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE END OF THE AGE.
BUT GOD IS NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SCARING ANYBODY.
HE IS REALLY IN THE BUSINESS OF PREPARING EVERYBODY,
AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TURN AROUND TO SEE
WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD BEFORE THE FLOOD
SO WE WON'T BE SURPRISED AT THE NUTTY STUFF WE'RE SEEING NOW.
JESUS WAS PREPARING US.
REBECCA: CAN YOU SPEAK TO SOME OF THE STUFF
THAT IS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE?
RICK: TRANS. JUST STAY WITH THE WORD TRANS.
BEFORE THE FLOOD WAS TRANSGRESSION.
OUT OF THAT TRANSGRESSION WAS TRANS-BEINGS, HYBRID CREATURES,
MONSTERS.
WELL, WHAT'S THE BIG WORD TODAY?
TRANS.
TRANSHUMANISM, TRANSGENDER.
WE ARE VIOLATING RULES.
BREAKING BOUNDARIES.
DOING WHAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER TAKEN PLACE.
AND IN MANY WAYS, WE ARE REPLICATING
WHAT TOOK PLACE BEFORE THE FLOOD.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE
THAT I FIND VERY INTERESTING. IN MINISTRIES
ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES,
I'VE BEEN ASKING WHAT KIND OF PHONE CALLS DO YOU GET?
AND MINISTRIES ARE GETTING A REAL UPTICK IN PHONE CALLS
FROM WOMEN PARTICULARLY WHO SAY
THEY'RE BEING ASSAULTED BY SPIRITS AT NIGHT.
REBECCA: I'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT.
RICK: I BELIEVE THAT IT'S PART OF A REPEAT OF WHAT TOOK PLACE
BEFORE THE FLOOD.
PEOPLE ARE BEING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY UNSEEN BEINGS.
AND WE'RE SEEING A REPLICATION OF THESE THINGS.
WE REALLY ARE, REBECCA.
REBECCA: DO YOU THINK,
OH, MY GOSH, MY MIND WENT TO LIKE FIVE QUESTIONS,
DO YOU LIKE,
HOW DOES SOMEONE THAT,
HOW DOES SOMEONE STAY PROTECTED FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
RICK: WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS.
COVER YOURSELF.
I MEAN, WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT NEVER TO BE TOUCHED
BY THE EVIL ONE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THE BLOOD OF JESUS.
IT'S VERY PROTECTIVE.
BUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THE WORD OF GOD
OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG,
THEY OPENED DOORS,
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO LIVE WITH EVERY DOOR CLOSED,
EVERY CRACK SEALED.
WE'VE GOT TO LIVE OUT BRIGHTLY IN THESE DAYS
BECAUSE THERE IS AN ASSAULT OF EVIL.
REBECCA: YEAH.
I THINK MORE THAN EVER WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE THAT'S GOING ON THAT,
AND NOT BE AFRAID OF IT.
I THINK WHEN YOU ACTUALLY BECOME INFORMED AND UNDERSTAND
THE AUTHORITY THAT CHRIST HAS AND THAT WE'RE IN HIM,
THAT WE'RE COVERED AND PROTECTED AND SAFE,
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, WE DON'T OPEN DOORS.
WE DON'T DO ANYTHING TO GIVE ANY ROOM FOR THE DEVIL
TO HAVE A SAY OR A WAY IN OUR LIFE.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING
IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPIRITS, YOU KNOW, SEXUALLY,
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THE WORD, YEAH, MOLESTING WOMEN,
IS THAT DO YOU BELIEVE THAT DEMONIC SPIRITS
ARE THE SPIRITS OF THE NEPHILIM?
RICK: SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT. I DON'T KNOW.
REBECCA: YOU DON'T KNOW?
RICK: I DON'T KNOW.
REBECCA: I WONDER. TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE.
RICK: THAT'S WHAT THE BOOK OF THE GIANTS SAYS.
REBECCA: REALLY?
RICK: IT SAYS IT'S THE DISEMBODIED SPIRITS
OF THE GIANTS.
BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE I USED TO ALWAYS JUST THINK
THAT THE DEMONS WERE FALLEN ANGELS.
RICK: NO, THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT FALLEN ANGELS.
REBECCA: BECAUSE THE FALLEN ANGELS
WE KNOW ARE LOCKED UP.
RICK: RIGHT.
IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING HISTORY, WOULD YOU NOT AGREE?
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND THERE'S TWO WAYS I COULD TAKE THIS.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
I WAS GONNA, I'M GONNA TAKE IT TO THE FUTURE.
SO TRANSGENDER, TRANS-HUMANISM.
THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON.
I KNOW A LOT OF THE TRANSHUMANISM STUFF
ISN'T AS MUCH IN THE PUBLIC.
I KNOW THAT THAT KIND OF STUFF IS HAPPENING PRIVATELY.
I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, STORIES FROM PEOPLE AND STUFF.
THERE IS SOME STUFF PUBLICLY WE KNOW ABOUT, LIKE, YOU KNOW --
RICK: NEURALINK.
REBECCA: NEURALINK.
WHICH IS SO CREEPY.
UM.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT NEURALINK IS
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW?
RICK: NEURALINK IS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA
PUT A COMPUTER CHIP IN PEOPLE'S BRAINS.
AND THEY SAY IT WILL UPGRADE HUMAN BEINGS.
THERE'S GOING TO BE, IT'S CALLED THIS MOMENT
WHEN HUMANS AND MACHINERY AND COMPUTERS ARE GOING TO CONVERGE
TOGETHER AND IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW KIND OF A HUMAN BEING.
IT IS REALLY A VERY SCARY PROSPECT.
WHOEVER CONTROLS THE INFORMATION IS GOING TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE,
AND TRANSHUMANISTS ARE ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.
IT'S NOT JUST MYTH OR CRAZY THINKING TO THEM.
THEY ARE ENVISIONING A NEW WORLD WHERE HUMAN BEINGS
ARE COMPLETELY INTEGRATED WITH MACHINERY
AND WITH COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY.
REBECCA: AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M SEEING
THAT'S REALLY ALARMING
IS HOW MANKIND HAS GOTTEN INVOLVED IN FERTILITY
OR LIKE CREATING LIFE
THAT WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW,
NOW, SURROGACY HAS BECOME A HUGE THING
WHERE PEOPLE ARE CARRYING OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING EMBRYOS, YOU KNOW,
AND THEY'RE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, IVF, THEY'RE PUTTING THEM
IN WOMEN, BUT WHAT THAT I BELIEVE THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO
IS MORE NEFARIOUS THINGS.
RICK: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD TRANSGRESSION MEANS?
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SIN AND A TRANSGRESSION.
THE WORD "SIN" IS A GREEK WORD WHICH REALLY MEANS
TO MAKE A MISTAKE.
THE WORD TRANSGRESSION MEANS
TO INTENTIONALLY VIOLATE A BOUNDARY.
THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
SO IF YOU TRANSGRESS AGAINST SOMEBODY,
YOU HAVE VIOLATED THEM.
YOU'VE CROSSED A BORDER YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO CROSS.
WELL, WE'RE LIVING IN THE DAYS OF TRANSGRESSION
WHEN PEOPLE ARE CROSSING ALL KINDS OF BOUNDARIES.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THEIR SEX.
THAT'S A BOUNDARY
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CROSS.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BECOME LINKED TO MACHINERY
AND COMPUTERS.
THAT'S A BOUNDARY
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CROSS.
IN LABORATORIES ACROSS THE WORLD, SECRET LABORATORIES,
ESPECIALLY IN COUNTRIES THAT ARE NOT CLOSELY MONITORED,
THEY'RE TRYING TO MIX HUMAN DNA, ANIMAL DNA.
THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT.
IT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
THEY ARE DOING IT.
REBECCA: WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF MIXING?
RICK: WELL, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
REBECCA: DO THEY EVEN SAY OR DO THEY JUST KNOW THAT THEY'RE...
RICK: I THINK THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.
THEY'RE TAKING INTO THEIR HANDS
THE ROLE OF GOD.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN CREATE.
LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN MAKE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT,
IT'S A VERY SCARY THING THAT THEY'RE DOING.
IT'S SUCH A VIOLATION.
A TRANSGRESSION.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
REBECCA: I SAW THIS THING
WHERE THIS GUY PROPOSED,
AND IT WAS LIKE THIS MASSIVE ROOM
AND IT WAS ALL THESE PODS,
AND HE WAS PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD GROW BABIES IN THESE PODS.
I JUST CAN'T THINK ABOUT HOW LIKE EVIL THAT IS
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY
GOD DESIGNED LIFE TO BE CREATED.
AND IT'S JUST SO CREEPY, THE DIRECTION THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING
WITH CREATING LIFE, BECAUSE I HAVE MY OWN CHILDREN,
I JUST, IT TOTALLY WEIRDS ME OUT.
RICK: IN THAT BOOK, I HAVE A WHOLE CHAPTER ABOUT ANIMALS
THAT ARE BEING CREATED
THAT WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE CREATED,
HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO MIX HUMAN EMBRYOS WITH PIG EMBRYOS.
WHAT WOULD BE THE SENSE OF THAT?
THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S EVIL, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT,
THAT'S A HUMAN LIKE HUMANITY IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE.
THAT'S WHY WHAT THE SIN OF THE WATCHERS DID WAS SO EVIL
BECAUSE THEY TAINTED THE DNA OF HUMANITY.
THEY DID SOMETHING
THAT WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
WE WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO MATE WITH ONE ANOTHER,
RICK: WELL, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT EVERYTHING IS SUPPOSED TO
PRODUCE AFTER ITS OWN KIND.
BUT THEY VIOLATED A BOUNDARY.
THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO.
REBECCA: WHAT WERE THE GIANTS, MORE ANIMAL-LIKE
OR WERE THEY JUST EVIL-LIKE?
BECAUSE IF THEY WERE THIS HYBRID,
DOES IT SAY?
RICK: WELL, I NEVER SAW ONE.
BUT WE KNOW FROM THE BIBLE
THAT THEY WERE MONSTROUS BEINGS.
THEY WERE ENORMOUS.
WE KNOW KING OG WAS AT LEAST 18 FEET TALL.
I MEAN, THAT IS A BIG MAN.
BUT WE HAVE SCRIPTURES ABOUT SOME GIANTS
WHICH WERE AS TALL AS THE CEDARS OF LEBANON.
REBECCA: HOW TALL WOULD THAT BE?
RICK: WELL, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A HUNDRED FEET.
I MEAN, THEY WERE MASSIVE, MASSIVE CREATURES.
AND WHEN THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL CAME INTO THE LAND OF CANAAN,
OF COURSE, WHICH WAS AFTER THE FLOOD,
THEY SAW THE GIANTS THERE.
THE SON OF ANAK, AND THEY SAID WHILE WE WERE AS GROSSHOPPERS
IN THEIR SIGHT.
I MEAN, THAT IS A LITERAL STATEMENT, THEY WERE SO HUGE
THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE GRASSHOPPERS.
REBECCA: AND SEE, THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT ISRAEL
AND THEIR CALLING
IS WHEN THEY WENT INTO THE PROMISED LAND
BY THE GRACE OF GOD, THEY HAD TO FIGHT THESE REMAINING GIANTS.
RICK: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST
KIND OF LIKE JUST LIKE THE SONS OR DAUGHTER
LIKE THE SONS OF MEN,
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE FALLEN ANGELS MATING WITH WOMEN.
WE KIND OF GLOSS OVER THAT SCRIPTURE.
THEN WE KIND OF GLOSS OVER THE FACT
THAT THERE'S GIANTS IN, YOU KNOW, THE LAND OF CANAAN
IN THE PROMISED LAND.
BUT THAT WAS PART OF IT'S ALL IN THERE.
IT'S IN THE BOOK OF PSALMS.
IT'S IN THE WHERE WHAT BOOK IS THE STORY OF LIKE,
I'M SORRY,
I JUST HAD A BABY, SO I'M LIKE SPACING.
RICK: THAT'S OKAY.
REBECCA: WHERE IS THE STORY
WHERE THE TWELVE SPIES GO IN AND THEY'RE LIKE...
RICK: NUMBERS.
REBECCA: NUMBERS, OKAY.
I WAS LIKE ONE OF THOSE OLD TESTAMENT BOOKS,
BUT IT'S ALL IN THERE, AND THAT WAS PART OF THEIR CALL.
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE
THEY HAD TO FIGHT, WHICH WAS A PHYSICAL BATTLE
TO TAKE DOWN THESE GIANTS.
RICK: GOD WIPED OUT THE FIRST GROUP WITH A FLOOD,
BUT THE SECOND GROUP,
GOD SAID, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HANDLE THIS ONE
YOURSELF.
I MEAN, THAT WAS A MASSIVE ASSIGNMENT,
TO TAKE OUT ALL THOSE GIANTS.
REBECCA: I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.
RICK: BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN ALSO TAKE OUT THE GIANTS
TO COME AGAINST US.
WE CAN DO IT.
REBECCA: YEAH.
HOW DO WE DO IT?
RICK: WE HAVE SPIRITUAL WEAPONRY.
WE'VE GOT THE POWER OF GOD.
THE WORD OF GOD.
THE BLOOD OF JESUS.
REBECCA,
WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING
WE NEED TO KEEP THE DEVIL UNDER OUR FEET.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. FOR WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THAT
THE GIANTS ATE FLESH AND DRINK BLOOD.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE IN THE OCCULT DO.
RICK: THEY DO.
REBECCA: AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS
YOU SAID THAT WHEN NOAH CAME OFF THE ARK.
RICK: THE FIRST LAW GOD GAVE,
NOW, YOU WOULD THINK OF EVERYTHING THAT GOD COULD SAY,
WOULD HE SAY THIS?
HE SAID, ALL RIGHT, NOAH.
NO MORE DRINKING OF BLOOD.
IT WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING,
OKAY,
WE'VE CLEANED THIS DEAL UP.
LET'S NOT EVER GO BACK
AND DO WHAT WE JUST ENDED.
THAT'S WHAT GOD WAS TALKING ABOUT.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
THAT'S JUST SO CRAZY.
SO IT'S ALL CONNECTED.
RICK: IT'S ALL CONNECTED.
AND TODAY IN THE LOWER MOUNTAINTS OF ARARAT,
REALLY, ARE THE RUINS OF NOAH'S ARK, AND WHEN YOU GO THERE
AND YOU SEE IT,
YOU REALIZE ALL OF THIS IS NOT FICTION.
IT'S NOT MYTHOLOGY. THERE REALLY IS AN ARK,
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THESE THINGS REALLY TOOK PLACE.
REBECCA: SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON
AI, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, BASICALLY,
AND HOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR TO
AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH?
RICK: I THINK LIKE ANYTHING,
AI, WHAT IT IS DEPENDS ON WHO CONTROLS IT.
MOST THINGS START OUT WITH A GOOD IDEA
AND THEN THEY BECOME WICKED.
AND PROBABLY AS WE GO FORWARD
TO THE END OF THE AGE,
AI WILL BE USED FOR DELUSION, DECEPTION, EVEN RIGHT NOW,
IT'S HARD TO, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUTUBE,
IT IS HARD TO KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PERSON
OR WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN IMAGE, AND IT'S GETTING SO GOOD.
IT IS REALLY HARD TO KNOW.
REBECCA: I KNOW, AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER
BECAUSE IT KEEPS LEARNING AND LEARNING MORE.
RICK: I JUST SAW A ROBOT ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO.
I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT KNOW IT WAS A ROBOT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A PERSON TALKING.
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.
RICK: I MEAN, THE FACIAL FEATURES, THE HAND MOVEMENT.
IT LOOKED LIKE A PERSON GIVING A SPEECH ON YOUTUBE,
AND IT WAS A ROBOT WORKING WITH AI.
RICK: THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT ALIENS,
AND FOR A LONG TIME,
I NEVER EVEN, I WAS LIKE THAT'S CRAZY.
YOU KNOW, JUST I THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT.
BUT NOW THERE'S MORE AND MORE INFORMATION COMING OUT.
THERE'S MORE AND MORE FASCINATION AROUND IT.
AND WE KNOW THAT EVEN THE GOVERNMENT IS ADMITTING
TO THINGS. WHAT ARE ALIENS?
AND HOW DOES IT TIE IN WITH THIS?
RICK: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
I THINK SOME OF IT IS IMAGINARY.
I THINK SOME OF IT IS A MISUNDERSTANDING
OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, AND I THINK SOME OF IT'S REAL.
I DO. I THINK SOME OF IT'S REAL.
AND JESUS SAID AT THE END OF THE AGE,
THERE WOULD BE GREAT SIGNS FROM THE HEAVENS.
AND THE GREEK DESCRIBES LITERALLY THINGS COMING DOWN
OUT OF THE HEAVENS, AND IT CONNECTS IT WITH THE WORD
"PHOBOTRON", WHICH IS THE WORD FOR MONSTERS.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE THESE THINGS APPEARING
OUT OF THE HEAVENS, AND AT THE SAME TIME,
THERE'S GOING TO BE THE APPEARANCE OF SOMETHING
MONSTROUS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S A REPEAT OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE DAYS
BEFORE THE FLOOD.
REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO
PRIME HUMANITY THAT THERE'S --
RICK: I THINK THEY ARE.
REBECCA: -- THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ALIEN, AND I DON'T KNOW
IF THAT'S -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE ALIENS.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING MORE LIKE THIS.
RICK: I THINK IT'S DEMONIC.
REBECCA: I DO TOO.
RICK: BUT I THINK THE GOVERNMENT VERY SLOWLY
IS TRYING TO WARM PEOPLE UP AND THERE'S GOING TO BE
SOME KIND OF A DISCLOSURE.
IT'S GOING TO REALLY SHAKE PEOPLE UP.
EVEN CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO SAY,
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
IF THERE'S ALIENS, THEN THAT MEANS THERE'S MORE OUT THERE
THAN US, AND IT'S GOING TO SHAKE PEOPLE UP,
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT JESUS SAID.
JESUS SAID SOME THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN,
AND IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, THEN WHEN IT HAPPENS,
YOU DON'T SAY,
OH, IT'S WHAT DOES IT MEAN? YOU SAY,
OH, I KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT JESUS TOLD US WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE.
REBECCA: YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M A MOM AND I HAVE KIDS
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE, THEY'RE BEING RAISED IN THIS TIME,
AND WE ONLY BELIEVE IT COULD PROBABLY BECOME
INCREASINGLY MORE.
WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE TO PARENTS?
HOW DO THEY NAVIGATE THIS DAY AND AGE WITH ALL THE DECEPTION,
AND, YOU KNOW, THESE DAYS OF NOAH TIME THAT WE'RE LIVING IN?
RICK: YOU NEED TO INSULATE YOUR FAMILY WITH THE WORD OF GOD.
ABSOLUTELY. NOW, I KNOW WE DON'T LIVE IN A MONASTERY.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT. WE'RE IN THE WORLD.
WE'RE NOT OF IT, BUT WE'RE IN IT,
BUT TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY,
YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR KIDS
THE WORD OF GOD.
YOU NEED TO GET THEM IN A GOOD BIBLE,
TEACHING CHURCH, BIBLE-BASED CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE FEAR OF THE LORD
IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM.
IF YOU'VE GOT THE BIBLE WORKING IN YOUR BRAIN,
IT GIVES YOU COMMON SENSE. YOU'RE ALREADY LEAGUES AHEAD
OF EVERYBODY ELSE WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE WORD OF GOD
WORKING IN YOUR MIND, AND THAT'S THE BEST THING
YOU CAN GIVE YOUR KIDS, REBECCA.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
WELL, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING,
AND I THINK ONE QUESTION AND THEN I WANT TO PRAY
A SALVATION PRAYER BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S THIS IS GOING TO
STIR PEOPLE TO WANT TO BE READY.
BUT MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR PEOPLE WHO GROW VERY INTERESTED
IN THIS TOPIC:
WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE TO THEM ON HOW TO STAY GROUNDED
IN THE WORD OF GOD WHILE STUDYING THIS?
RICK: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE
ON YOUTUBE.
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CRAZY STUFF ON YOUTUBE.
YOU NEED TO GO TO A SOURCE THAT HAS TEACHING
YOU CAN TRUST. YOU NEED TO GET THIS BOOK.
THIS BOOK WILL REALLY GROUND THEM IN WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS,
WHAT HISTORY SAYS. IT'S VERY FACTUAL-BASED.
AND JUST BE CAREFUL.
JUST BE CAREFUL, AND DON'T BECOME OBSESSED
WITH THIS SUBJECT. PEOPLE TEND TO BECOME OBSESSED.
AND WHEN YOU BECOME OBSESSED WITH THIS,
YOU'RE GOING TO GET OFF.
REBECCA: I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS,
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT GOD, BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY THE BOOK OF ENOCH WASN'T IN CANON,
BECAUSE I THINK --
RICK: THAT MIGHT BE THE REASON WHY.
REBECCA: WE GET TOO FOCUSED ON THE WRONG THING,
AND THE FOCUS IS JESUS
AND THE GOSPEL AND THAT WE'RE HERE TO PREACH
JUST LIKE NOAH PREACHED. AND SO I THINK
THAT THOSE ARE SUCH GREAT WORDS OF WISDOM THAT WE CAN STUDY.
I THINK IT'S GOOD TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THIS,
BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS, KEEP YOUR EYES
FIXED ON JESUS, THE AUTHOR AND PERFECTOR OF OUR FAITH.
RICK: AMEN.
REBECCA: AND SO THAT'S WHO OUR EYES NEED TO BE ON.
AND WE NEED TO BE DOING THE GREAT COMMISSION,
WHICH IS GOING TO THE WORLD AND PREACHING THE GOSPEL.
RICK: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: BUT IT'S GOOD TO UNDERSTAND THIS
BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID, JESUS WARNS US ABOUT THIS
SO THAT WE WOULD BE PREPARED AND NOT BE SHAKEN,
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS HE DOES SAY IN THE LAST DAYS
IS THAT PEOPLE'S HEARTS WOULD FAIL THEM
FROM TERROR.
RICK: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: SO IF WE ARE PREPARED, WE WON'T BE TAKEN BY SURPRISE.
RICK: REBECCA, YOU ARE SO FULL OF THE BIBLE.
REBECCA: OH, THANK YOU.
RICK: IT'S WONDERFUL.
REBECCA: WELL, I'VE LOVED HAVING YOU HERE.
I'VE LOVED TALKING ABOUT THIS.
I'VE BEEN WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON MY PODCAST,
BUT I WANTED TO DO IT FROM THE RIGHT WAY,
BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH INTEREST, SO THANK YOU
FOR WRITING THIS BOOK. FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO, I MEAN,
THIS IS HONESTLY A GREAT SOURCE.
AND THERE'S PICTURES AND EVERYTHING.
FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET THIS, WHERE CAN THEY GET IT?
RICK: THEY CAN JUST GO TO RENNER.ORG
OR THEY CAN ORDER IT ON AMAZON.
REBECCA: AMAZON.
YEAH, AND EVERYONE WHO COMES ON HERE, THEY'RE LIKE, AMAZON.
IT'S LIKE EVERYONE KNOWS AMAZON.
WELL, I WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
FOR PEOPLE WHOSE HEARTS ARE BURNING,
CAN YOU PRAY THE SINNER'S PRAYER?
RICK: I SURE WILL.
REBECCA: OKAY.
RICK: IF YOU ARE NOT A CHILD OF GOD ALREADY, IT'S SO EASY
TO ENTER INTO GOD'S FAMILY. THE BIBLE SAYS THAT
IF YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT GOD RAISED JESUS
FROM THE DEAD, AND IF YOU'LL SAY WITH YOUR MOUTH,
JESUS, BE THE LORD OF MY LIFE,
YOU WILL BE SAVED. SO PRAY THIS PRAYER:
FATHER, IN JESUS' NAME I GIVE YOU MY LIFE.
I CONFESS THAT I AM A SINNER.
I NEED TO BE RESCUED.
I ASK YOU TO FORGIVE ME.
AND JESUS, I GIVE YOU THE COMPLETE CONTROL OF MY LIFE
AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME AS YOUR CHILD RIGHT NOW.
AMEN.
REBECCA: AMEN.
AND FOR EVERYONE WHO'S PRAYED THAT PRAYER,
WELCOME TO THE FAMILY OF GOD.
GET INTO THE WORD OF GOD.
LIKE YOU SAID, GET INTO A BIBLE-BELIEVING CHURCH
AND, YOU KNOW, IMMERSE YOURSELF IN THE FAMILY OF GOD,
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MEANT TO BE ISOLATED.
WE'RE NOT MEANT TO BE ALONE.
RICK: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND JUST BE ENCOURAGED
BECAUSE THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN HIM,
WE ARE ON THE ONE WHO IS UNSHAKABLE.
RICK: THAT IS RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DAYS AHEAD
IN FEAR, BUT WE CAN ALMOST LOOK IN EXCITEMENT,
BECAUSE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS THAT
THE CHURCH IN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE STRONG IN THE LORD;
IS THAT CORRECT?
RICK: THAT'S RIGHT.
AND PROPHETS PROPHESIED ABOUT THESE TIMES,
BUT WE GET TO LIVE THEM.
REBECCA: YEAH, AND THEY WANTED TO BE IN THESE TIMES.
RICK: YEAH, WE ARE SO HONORED TO SEE THE FULFILLMENT OF ALL THIS.
REBECCA: BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SEE GOD MOVE IN A WAY
LIKE WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
RICK: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
REBECCA: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST .