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IN THIS EPISODE I SIT DOWN WITH
HEATHER Z AS SHE SHARES
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HER AMAZING STORY OF MIRACLES
AND HEALING AND SO MUCH MORE.
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YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO WANT
MISS IT, SO CHECK IT OUT.
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REBECCA: HEY, GUYS.
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WELCOME BACK TO THE
REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.
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I AM JOINED TODAY
WITH SOMEONE I LOVE,
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HEATHER Z, CO-FOUNDER
OF Z MINISTRIES,
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WITH HER AND HER
HUSBAND JOSEPH,
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WHO WE'VE ALSO HAD
ON THE PROGRAM.
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BUT NOW WE GET TO
TALK TO HEATHER.
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HEATHER: YES.
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REBECCA: WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
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HEATHER: THANK YOU.
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IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
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REBECCA: YOU KNOW, I LOVE YOU,
AND I'M EXCITED TO SIT DOWN
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AND HEAR SOME STORIES.
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SO TODAY WE'RE GOING
TO BE FOCUSING ON, BECAUSE
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THERE'S SO MANY THINGS
WE COULD TALK ABOUT.
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BUT TODAY I WANT TO FOCUS
ON HEALING BECAUSE YOU'VE
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HAD A LOT OF HEALING,
MIRACLES AND EXPERIENCES
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AND ALSO HAVING TO
BELIEVE FOR HEALING.
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HEATHER: YEAH.
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REBECCA: WHICH I
THINK IS HARD.
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LIKE ESPECIALLY
WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW,
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YOU HAD STUFF WITH YOUR KIDS,
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE
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AS A MOTHER.
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SO I WANT TO START OFF
WITH A STORY AND THEN
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I'LL HAVE SOME
FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS.
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SO TELL ME ABOUT
YOU WERE 12.
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HEATHER: OH, OKAY.
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YES.
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REBECCA: WE'RE GONNA GO
BACK TO THE WAY, WAY BACK.
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HEATHER: WAY BACK, YEAH.
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NO, THERE IS DEFINITELY
A DIFFERENCE
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BETWEEN HEALING AND
MIRACLES.
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SO WHEN I WAS 12, I, I
WAS A GYMNAST, AND I,
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I WASN'T DOING
ANYTHING SPECTACULAR.
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MY MUSCLES WERE STRESSED,
AND I WAS JUST SWINGING.
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AND ON THE BACK SWING,
I FLUNG FORWARD,
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I HIT MY HEAD AND I
HEARD MY NECK SNAP.
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AND SO WHAT ENDED UP
HAPPENING WAS IS I BROKE C1,
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WHICH IS THE VERY TOP.
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DO YOU REMEMBER
CHRISTOPHER REEVE,
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SUPERMAN, BACK IN
THE LIKE 70S, 80S?
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HE ENDED UP IN A
WHEELCHAIR AS A VEGETABLE.
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REBECCA: OH, YEAH, I
FORGOT ABOUT THAT.
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HEATHER: I BROKE
THAT VERTEBRAE.
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REBECCA: I KNOW EXACTLY.
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I GO TO THE CHIROPRACTOR
ALL THE TIME.
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I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE C1 IS
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES MY
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C1 OR MY C2 IS OUT.
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THAT'S LIKE RIGHT UP AT
THE VERY TOP OF THE NECK.
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THAT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT VERTEBRAE.
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HEATHER: YEAH.
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AND THE HIGHER UP,
THE MORE VITAL IS
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FOR THE REST OF THE BODY.
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AND SO...
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REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.
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HEATHER: YEAH, SO I BROKE
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MY NECK AND AS I, I
DON'T KNOW HOW I,
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HOW I GOT UP, I
HONESTLY DON'T.
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BECAUSE I TOOK A GIRL
TO THE PARK.
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MY PARENTS WERE MEETING
WITH SOME FRIENDS
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FROM CHURCH AND...
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REBECCA: WAIT, YOU
JUST KEPT GOING?
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LIKE AFTER YOU BROKE YOUR
NECK, YOU JUST GOT UP.
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HEATHER: WELL, SO I, I BLACKED
OUT AND SHE WAS CRYING
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LIKE, WHAT SHOULD I DO?
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I'M LIKE, GO
GET MY PARENTS.
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AND THEN THE NEXT
THING I REMEMBER,
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I'M WALKING DOWN THE
STREET HOLDING MY NECK
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BACK TO THE HOUSE.
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REBECCA: NO, YOU WALKED.
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HEATHER: YEAH.
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REBECCA: OH, MY...
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HEATHER: YEAH, I KNOW,
THERE'S A FEW THINGS
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THAT HAPPENED THAT I --
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IT WAS THE LORD.
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SO IT WAS
MIRACULOUS VERSUS
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LIKE A HEALING JOURNEY.
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REBECCA: GOTCHA.
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HEATHER: AND SO AS I WALKED IN
THE DOOR, I SAID, MOM,
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I THINK I BROKE MY NECK.
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AND SHE'S LIKE, YEAH, BUT
I WAS IN SO MUCH SHOCK,
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THERE WAS ONE TEAR.
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BECAUSE I WAS IN SO
MUCH PAIN THAT
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I COULDN'T REALLY CRY.
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THEY GET ME TO THE
HOSPITAL AND THEY SAID,
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WE THINK OUR DAUGHTER
BROKE HER NECK.
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THEY'RE LIKE,
WHERE IS SHE?
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IN THE CAR.
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THEY'RE LIKE, YOU MOVED
HER AND THEY'RE LIKE,
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SHE WALKED HOME.
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SO THEY GOT ME IN THERE.
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AND BY THE TIME WE WENT
THROUGH ALL THE VITALS AND
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AND HOW MANY FINGERS AND
ALL THE THINGS,
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AM I HOLDING UP,
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THEY GOT ME INTO
THE CT SCAN
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AND I'M ON A METAL TABLE.
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AND AS I'M LAYING THERE,
THEY JUST SAID, HEATHER,
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WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
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WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE SOME PICTURES.
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AND HONESTLY, THEY WEREN'T
TELLING MY PARENTS THIS AT
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THE TIME, BUT THEY WERE
BASICALLY JUST WAITING
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FOR MY LUNGS TO COLLAPSE.
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BECAUSE WHEN YOU BREAK, IT'S
CALLED HANGMAN'S VERTEBRAE.
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SO WHEN YOU SNAP
THAT VERTEBRAE,
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IT CONTROLS YOUR LUNGS
AND YOUR BREATHING,
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SO THEY JUST WAIT FOR YOU
TO SUFFOCATE AND DIE
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REALLY WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
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REBECCA: WHAT?
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HEATHER: UH-HUH, SO I'M
LAYING ON THIS METAL TABLE.
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REBECCA: NO.
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HEATHER: AND THE NEXT THING I
KNOW THEY'RE LIKE HEATHER WE'RE
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GOING TO TAKE
SOME PICTURES.
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BE RIGHT BACK.
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AND I STARTED TO FEEL SLEEPY
AND MY EYES BEGAN TO SHUT.
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AND WHEN THEY DID, NEXT
THING I KNOW I'M LOOKING
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AT MYSELF ON THE TABLE.
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AND I'M LIKE,
OH, THAT'S ME.
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THERE WAS NO FEAR, BUT I
DIED AND I PASSED,
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AND I WENT AND SAW THE LORD.
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REBECCA: WAIT, WHAT?
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OKAY, THAT'S SO MUCH
TO PROCESS IN MY BRAIN.
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FIRST OF ALL, I JUST FEEL
LIKE IT WAS KIND OF CRUEL
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THAT THEY JUST LEFT YOU
ON A TABLE LIKE THAT.
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IT SEEMS A
LITTLE INHUMANE.
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HEATHER: WELL, THEY WERE,
I MEAN, THEY WERE
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TAKING X RAYS AND --
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REBECCA: OKAY.
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HEATHER: I WAS GOING
INTO A CT SCAN,
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SO THEY WERE -- THEY
WERE TAKING IMAGES.
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REBECCA: SO YOU, YOU
HAD AN OUT OF BODY,
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YOU LEFT YOUR, YOUR SPIRIT
LEFT YOUR BODY BASICALLY.
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HEATHER: OH, YEAH.
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REBECCA: AND THEN YOU WENT TO
GO BE WITH THE LORD.
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HEATHER: YEAH.
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REBECCA: DO YOU LIKE,
REMEMBER MUCH ABOUT THAT?
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LIKE CAN YOU SHARE
WHAT YOU SAW?
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HEATHER: NO, I WAS ALTERED.
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I WAS ALTERED AFTER
THAT COMPLETELY, SO...
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REBECCA: THAT'S SO COOL.
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I WOULD NOT WANT TO
BREAK MY NECK AT ALL,
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BUT I WOULD LOVE
TO GO SEE JESUS.
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OKAY, SO TELL US ABOUT IT.
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HEATHER: SO, AS I LEFT
AND I WAS THERE,
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I RECOGNIZED PEOPLE
THAT I KNEW.
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SO I COULD SEE PEOPLE
THAT WERE HERE,
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BUT I ALSO SAW PEOPLE THAT --
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I WAS KIND OF
IN THIS
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IN-BETWEEN SPACE,
IF YOU WILL.
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REBECCA: THAT'S WHAT SO MANY
PEOPLE I TALK TO,
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THEY SAY THAT'S
WHERE THEY GO.
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IT'S LIKE THEY DON'T GO
ALL THE WAY IN BECAUSE
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IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF
YOU GO ALL THE WAY IN,
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YOU CAN'T GO BACK.
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HEATHER: YEAH.
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REBECCA: I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT'S A THING OR NOT,
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BUT I'VE HEARD THAT SO
MANY TIMES WHERE IT'S LIKE,
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EVEN WHEN MY DAD HAD
HIS TRANCE, HE'S LIKE,
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I DIDN'T GO INTO HEAVEN.
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I WAS OUTSIDE IT.
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AND I'VE HEARD THAT
CONCEPT SO MANY TIMES.
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OKAY, SO YOU'RE LIKE IN
THIS IN-BETWEEN PLACE.
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HEATHER: SO I WAS IN
THIS HOME, WHICH SEEMED
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ALMOST LIKE MY HOME.
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BUT AS I WAS LOOKING
OUTSIDE AND I DON'T KNOW
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HOW TO, TO SAY THAT A
BLADE OF GRASS IS THE MOST
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BEAUTIFUL THING I'VE EVER
SEEN IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
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BUT THE GRASS -- I WAS
LOOKING OUTSIDE AT THESE
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BIG BLADES OF GRASS AND
THEN OFF IN THE DISTANCE
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IT WAS WHEAT.
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AND SO I JUST THOUGHT,
I WANT TO GO SEE THAT.
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AND IT JUST I MOVED AT
THE SPEED OF THOUGHT.
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SO I WENT
THROUGH THE WALL
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AND THEN I WAS OUTSIDE
WHERE THE GRASS
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AND THE WHEAT WAS.
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AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW,
I WAS COMPELLED TO LOOK UP.
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AND I'VE HEARD OTHER
PEOPLE SAY, I MET JESUS.
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HE'S ABOUT SIX FEET TALL.
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AND, MAN, THAT WAS NOT
MY EXPERIENCE AT ALL.
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I ENDED UP GOING OUT THERE
AND I WAS COMPELLED TO
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LOOK UP INTO THE SKY.
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AND AS I DID, I SAW THESE
TWO HUGE HANDS BE LIKE,
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FILL THE ENTIRE SKY.
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NOW I KNOW THAT
JESUS SPOKE
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AND HE CREATED WITH
HIS WORD.
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BUT THESE HANDS WERE
LIKE GALAXY-MOVING,
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GALAXY-BUILDING HANDS THAT
FILLED THE ENTIRE SKY
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AND THEY CAME DOWN AND
THEY CUPPED TOGETHER.
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AND ONCE THEY
CAME TOGETHER,
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I WAS SITTING
IN HIS HANDS
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AND THAT'S WHEN HE SPOKE.
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AND IT AND IT JUST IT HIT
ME RIGHT HERE AS HE BEGAN
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TO TALK TO ME.
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AND I WOULD RESPOND, WHAT
WOULD BE SIMILAR TO JUST
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A THOUGHT IN MY HEAD.
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SO IT REALLY WAS
SPIRIT TO SPIRIT.
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I NEVER USED MY
MOUTH TO TALK.
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AS WE BEGAN TO CONVERSE,
I REALLY TRIED TO LOOK AT HIM,
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BUT I COULD ONLY SEE FROM
THE SHOULDER AND DOWN.
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HIS FACE WAS LIKE A
BRILLIANCE AND A WHITE
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THAT I CANNOT DESCRIBE.
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IT WAS TOO BRILLIANT.
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AND SO AS HE BEGAN TO
SPEAK TO ME,
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I HAD A
SENSE OF FAMILY.
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HE BEGAN TO -- A SENSE
OF HUSBAND,
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BUT HE JUST BEGAN TO TELL ME,
I HAVE DESIGNED,
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I'VE, I HAVE ASSIGNMENTS IN
YOU THAT I'VE PUT ON THE
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INSIDE OF YOU THAT I
DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY YOU FOR.
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AND YES, WE KNOW THERE'S
7000 MORE JUST LIKE YOU.
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THERE'S OTHERS, BUT IT'S
THE ONES WHO WILL SAY YES.
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THERE ARE MANY OF US, BUT
IT'S THE LORD'S LOOKING
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FOR THE ONES THAT WILL
CONSTANTLY SAY YES.
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REBECCA: YEAH.
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HEATHER: NO MATTER
HOW HARD IT GETS
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OR HOW DIFFICULT IT GETS,
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DESPAIR, YOU KNOW?
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ANYWAY, THAT SAID, HE
JUST BEGAN TO TELL ME
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ABOUT MY LIFE.
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AND SO TOWARDS THE
END HE JUST SAID,
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I HAVE BUILT YOU
AND DESIGNED YOU
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FOR ASSIGNMENTS
AND PURPOSES.
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AND SO AT THE END, HE
JUST SAID, HEATHER,
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DON'T WORRY, EVERYTHING'S
GOING TO BE OKAY.
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I HAVE YOU IN MY HANDS.
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IT'S TIME FOR
YOU TO GO NOW.
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AND I JUST SAID
BACK, OH, SORRY.
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OH, I'M TRYING NOT TO CRY.
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I JUST SAID, NO, LORD,
I DON'T WANT --
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I DON'T WANT TO GO.
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AND HE, HE JUST SAID,
HEATHER, DON'T WORRY.
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EVERYTHING'S
GOING TO BE OKAY.
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I HAVE YOU IN MY HANDS.
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IT'S TIME FOR
YOU TO GO NOW.
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AND THE NEXT THING I KNEW,
MY EYES OPENED AND WIND
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BEGAN TO FILL MY LUNGS
AND I WENT...
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[ BREATHING IN ]
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HEATHER: LIKE THIS.
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AND WHEN YOU'RE 12, YOU DON'T
KNOW THAT C1 CONTROLS --
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REBECCA: YOUR BREATHING.
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HEATHER: THERE WAS A
SPECIALIST IN
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TOWN IN MINNEAPOLIS,
MINNESOTA THAT WEEK OR
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WEEKEND DOING AN EXPO
CONFERENCE, WHATEVER,
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WHO SPECIALIZED
IN C1 BREAKS.
00:08:36.767 --> 00:08:39.933
HE FORGOT HIS PAGER AT
THAT VERY HOSPITAL,
00:08:40.033 --> 00:08:41.300
SO HE HAD TO
MISS HIS FLIGHT.
00:08:41.400 --> 00:08:42.134
COME BACK, AND
THEY'RE LIKE,
00:08:42.234 --> 00:08:43.300
YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO BELIEVE IT.
00:08:43.400 --> 00:08:44.367
WE HAVE THIS LITTLE GIRL
IN HERE WHO BROKE HER NECK.
00:08:44.467 --> 00:08:47.767
CAN YOU COME LOOK AT HER
VERTEBRAE OR HER --
00:08:47.867 --> 00:08:50.400
BECAUSE HER C1, BECAUSE
WE'RE TRYING TO DECIDE IF
00:08:50.500 --> 00:08:52.467
WE'RE GOING TO PUT A
HALO ON HER OR WHAT.
00:08:52.567 --> 00:08:54.800
AND HE LOOKED AT IT AND HE
SAID, THIS IS INTERESTING.
00:08:54.900 --> 00:08:56.600
AND MY MOM WAS STANDING
THERE AND HE SAID, SHE
00:08:56.700 --> 00:08:59.067
ABSOLUTELY BROKE HER NECK,
00:08:59.167 --> 00:09:02.200
BUT IT'S BEEN
FUSED TOGETHER.
00:09:02.300 --> 00:09:04.467
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS
DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
00:09:04.567 --> 00:09:07.233
AND SO HE SAID, AND IF IT
WAS A HAIR TO THE LEFT OR
00:09:07.333 --> 00:09:09.167
THE RIGHT, SHE'D
BE INSTANTLY DEAD.
00:09:09.267 --> 00:09:12.666
HE SAID, SO THIS IS GOING TO
HAVE TO GO IN THE BOOK OF THE
00:09:12.766 --> 00:09:15.200
MIRACULOUS OR THE
UNEXPLAINED IN THE MIRACLES,
00:09:15.300 --> 00:09:17.367
IN THE HOSPITAL
SETTING, HE SAID,
00:09:17.467 --> 00:09:18.800
BUT SHE'LL BE FINE.
00:09:18.900 --> 00:09:22.633
SIX, SIX WEEKS IN A SOFT
COLLAR AND SO HER NECK
00:09:22.733 --> 00:09:25.233
MUSCLES COULD HEAL BECAUSE
I COULDN'T HOLD MY HEAD UP.
00:09:25.333 --> 00:09:27.034
HE SAID, SHE'LL
BE JUST FINE
00:09:27.134 --> 00:09:27.800
AND THAT WAS IT.
00:09:27.900 --> 00:09:29.400
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:09:29.500 --> 00:09:30.233
HEATHER: YEAH.
00:09:30.333 --> 00:09:31.966
REBECCA: WHAT AN
INCREDIBLE STORY.
00:09:32.066 --> 00:09:34.667
SO THERE'S SO MUCH
TO UNPACK THERE.
00:09:34.767 --> 00:09:37.867
THAT'S SO COOL
ABOUT YOU AND JESUS.
00:09:37.967 --> 00:09:39.067
I MEAN, I CAN'T
EVEN IMAGINE,
00:09:39.167 --> 00:09:40.234
YOU DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE.
00:09:40.334 --> 00:09:42.966
EVERYONE I TALK TO
NEVER WANTS TO LEAVE.
00:09:43.066 --> 00:09:44.100
HEATHER: NO.
00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:46.133
AND IT HELPS GIVE YOU A
SENSE OF I KNOW WHERE I
00:09:46.233 --> 00:09:49.333
COME FROM BECAUSE I DIDN'T
REALIZE ALL THE HARDSHIPS
00:09:49.433 --> 00:09:51.333
THAT I WAS THAT WERE
GOING TO COME AT,
00:09:51.433 --> 00:09:55.200
LIKE IN WAVES AFTER THAT,
THROUGH MY TEENS, MY,
00:09:55.300 --> 00:09:58.767
MY YOUNGER YEARS, THEN
INTO WITH CHILDREN.
00:09:58.867 --> 00:10:01.433
EVERYTHING FROM ALLISON
DYING IN THE WOMB TO NOW
00:10:01.533 --> 00:10:04.533
SHE'S HERE AND, YOU KNOW,
AND MY SON WITH BEING
00:10:04.633 --> 00:10:08.200
DIAGNOSED SEVERELY
WITH AUTISM TO
00:10:08.300 --> 00:10:11.967
HEREDITARY DOUBLE RENAL
KIDNEY FAILURE TO A SHOULD
00:10:12.067 --> 00:10:13.767
NOT HAVE GOTTEN A
KIDNEY TRANSPLANT,
00:10:13.867 --> 00:10:15.200
BUT THAT, AGAIN, WAS
ANOTHER MIRACLE.
00:10:15.300 --> 00:10:16.400
ACTUALLY, IT WAS MORE
OF A HEALING
00:10:16.500 --> 00:10:18.266
AND MIRACLE TO WALK OUT.
00:10:18.366 --> 00:10:19.967
REBECCA: THAT WAS MY NEXT
QUESTION FOR YOU.
00:10:20.067 --> 00:10:21.567
SO THERE'S THE
MIRACULOUS WHERE THERE'S
00:10:21.667 --> 00:10:23.400
KIND OF LIKE THIS
INSTANT HEALING,
00:10:23.500 --> 00:10:24.900
AND THEN THERE'S
A HEALING JOURNEY.
00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:26.100
HEATHER: YES.
00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.400
REBECCA: WHICH I WOULD GUESS
REQUIRES IT TAKES TIME.
00:10:28.500 --> 00:10:30.967
AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE GOD
DOES A WORK IN YOU THROUGH
00:10:31.067 --> 00:10:33.000
THAT PROCESS OF
HAVING TO BELIEVE.
00:10:33.100 --> 00:10:34.066
HEATHER: YES.
00:10:34.166 --> 00:10:36.366
REBECCA: SO WHEN YOU FOR
SO WHAT, FOR EXAMPLE,
00:10:36.466 --> 00:10:37.534
LET'S TALK, LET'S TALK
ABOUT THE STORY
00:10:37.634 --> 00:10:38.500
ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER.
00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:39.433
HEATHER: YEAH.
00:10:39.533 --> 00:10:40.100
REBECCA: YOU SAID, I
MEAN, YOU SAID IT
00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.866
SO LIKE NONCHALANT.
00:10:42.966 --> 00:10:44.034
[ LAUGHTER ]
00:10:44.134 --> 00:10:44.834
REBECCA: YOU STRAIGHT
UP JUST SAID YOUR
00:10:44.934 --> 00:10:46.600
DAUGHTER WAS DEAD IN
THE WOMB.
00:10:46.700 --> 00:10:47.300
HEATHER: FOR THREE DAYS.
00:10:47.400 --> 00:10:49.034
I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.
00:10:49.134 --> 00:10:51.700
I'M ACTUALLY PREGNANT RIGHT
NOW WITH OUR THIRD BABY.
00:10:51.800 --> 00:10:56.300
AND I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE
EMOTIONS CONNECTED TO THAT.
00:10:56.400 --> 00:10:57.967
SO TELL US THAT STORY,
00:10:58.067 --> 00:10:59.300
WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
00:10:59.400 --> 00:11:01.400
HEATHER: SO I WAS VERY MUCH
FULL, YOU KNOW,
00:11:01.500 --> 00:11:04.466
I HAD BABY BUMP
AND EVERYTHING,
00:11:04.566 --> 00:11:06.066
AND I WAS
EXPERIENCING PAIN.
00:11:06.166 --> 00:11:09.233
SO WE WENT IN JUST TO SEE
BECAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE
00:11:09.333 --> 00:11:12.134
KIDS, BABIES
HAVING BABIES.
00:11:12.234 --> 00:11:13.367
SO AS WE WENT IN --
00:11:13.467 --> 00:11:14.066
REBECCA: WAS SHE
YOUR FIRST OR
00:11:14.166 --> 00:11:15.000
YOUR SECOND BABY?
00:11:15.100 --> 00:11:16.066
HEATHER: FIRST.
00:11:16.166 --> 00:11:17.900
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH,
THAT'S EVEN MORE CRAZY
00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:19.567
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE YOU'VE
NEVER DONE IT BEFORE.
00:11:19.667 --> 00:11:20.900
HEATHER: YEAH.
00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.033
REBECCA: SO IT'S A LOT OF, I
MEAN, YOU FEEL PRESSURE AND YOU
00:11:23.133 --> 00:11:25.366
CAN BE NERVOUS BECAUSE IT'S
YOUR FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW.
00:11:25.466 --> 00:11:27.734
HEATHER: YEAH, AND
JUST IGNORANT.
00:11:27.834 --> 00:11:29.633
BUT AS WE WERE IN
ON THE ULTRASOUND,
00:11:29.733 --> 00:11:32.500
JOSEPH JUST SAID, HEY, I'M
SURE YOU SEE SOME TOUGH
00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:33.300
THINGS IN HERE.
00:11:33.400 --> 00:11:34.533
AND WE WERE
YOUNG AND DUMB,
00:11:34.633 --> 00:11:36.067
NOT KNOWING THE QUESTION --
00:11:36.167 --> 00:11:38.167
THE STATEMENTS WE'RE
EVEN WERE MAKING.
00:11:38.267 --> 00:11:39.633
AND HE'S LIKE,
YEAH, HE'S LIKE,
00:11:39.733 --> 00:11:40.667
WHAT'S SOME OF THE
TOUGHEST THINGS?
00:11:40.767 --> 00:11:42.067
HE SAID, WELL, SOMETIMES
AS HE'S RUNNING THE
00:11:42.167 --> 00:11:44.900
ULTRASOUND OVER MY
STOMACH, HE SAID,
00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:46.800
SOMETIMES THERE ARE BABIES
THAT ARE DEAD AND I DON'T
00:11:46.900 --> 00:11:48.633
HAVE THE AUTHORITY
TO SAY ANY --
00:11:48.733 --> 00:11:50.234
I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.
00:11:50.334 --> 00:11:51.733
AND IT WAS KIND OF LIKE
HE WAS TRYING TO TELL US
00:11:51.833 --> 00:11:53.834
WITHOUT TELLING US WHAT,
00:11:53.934 --> 00:11:55.500
LIKE WARNING US WHAT
WAS GOING ON.
00:11:55.600 --> 00:12:00.400
BUT ANYWAY, THEY JUST --
THEY AFTER HOURS OF BEING
00:12:00.500 --> 00:12:01.767
THERE, THEY JUST SENT
ME HOME AND SAID,
00:12:01.867 --> 00:12:03.900
WE'LL HAVE YOUR PHYSICIAN,
YOUR BABY DOCTOR REACH OUT
00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.633
TO YOU AND WE'LL JUST.
00:12:06.733 --> 00:12:07.666
AND THEY DIDN'T
REALLY EVEN TELL ME
00:12:07.766 --> 00:12:08.667
WHAT WAS GOING ON.
00:12:08.767 --> 00:12:09.667
REBECCA: THAT'S WEIRD.
00:12:09.767 --> 00:12:10.666
HEATHER: RIGHT.
00:12:10.766 --> 00:12:13.067
SO WE GET HOME AND
JOSEPH'S LIKE,
00:12:13.167 --> 00:12:14.766
I JUST FEEL LED TO PRAY.
00:12:14.866 --> 00:12:17.033
I'M JUST GOING TO LAY
HANDS ON YOUR STOMACH
00:12:17.133 --> 00:12:18.166
AND HE DID.
00:12:18.266 --> 00:12:22.067
AND HE JUST SAID, BABY,
YOU LISTEN TO ME, LIVE.
00:12:22.167 --> 00:12:24.734
AND HE JUST BEGAN TO
SPEAK LIFE AND I'M LIKE,
00:12:24.834 --> 00:12:27.100
THERE HAD BEEN NO
MOVEMENT FOR DAYS.
00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.266
AND I HONESTLY, DID NOT
KNOW EVEN THEN WHAT WAS
00:12:30.366 --> 00:12:31.500
GOING ON YET, BECAUSE
THEY JUST REALLY
00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:32.800
DIDN'T TELL ME ANYTHING.
00:12:32.900 --> 00:12:33.800
THEY JUST SAID,
WELL, WE NEED
00:12:33.900 --> 00:12:35.766
TO JUST MAKE ANOTHER
APPOINTMENT,
00:12:35.866 --> 00:12:36.666
HAVE YOU COME IN.
00:12:36.766 --> 00:12:38.167
I DON'T KNOW
IF I MISSED IT,
00:12:38.267 --> 00:12:39.567
I DON'T KNOW IF --
I DON'T KNOW
00:12:39.667 --> 00:12:40.600
IF THE LORD JUST IF I
00:12:40.700 --> 00:12:43.166
DIDN'T HEAR IT SO THAT
SOMETHING WOULDN'T STICK
00:12:43.266 --> 00:12:44.567
IN MY HEART.
00:12:44.667 --> 00:12:45.600
WHO KNOWS?
00:12:45.700 --> 00:12:47.533
YOU KNOW, FEAR, DOUBT,
UNBELIEF, WHATEVER.
00:12:47.633 --> 00:12:49.633
BUT HE BEGAN
TO SPEAK LIFE,
00:12:49.733 --> 00:12:51.800
TO LIVE AND YOU LIVE.
00:12:51.900 --> 00:12:53.800
AND IT WAS REAL SHORT
AND TO THE POINT.
00:12:53.900 --> 00:12:54.867
AND WE WENT TO
BED THAT NIGHT,
00:12:54.967 --> 00:12:56.500
WOKE UP THE NEXT MORNING,
00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:59.566
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I FELT
FLUTTERING IN MY STOMACH.
00:12:59.666 --> 00:13:00.633
AND THEN THE NEXT
THING I KNOW,
00:13:00.733 --> 00:13:05.200
I SEE A FOOT GO ACROSS
MY STOMACH, JUST HIT ME,
00:13:05.300 --> 00:13:08.934
YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST ALL
ACROSS MY JUST MOTION
00:13:09.034 --> 00:13:10.266
AND MOVEMENT AGAIN.
00:13:10.366 --> 00:13:12.300
AND THEN I GOT A CALL FROM
MY PHYSICIAN JUST SAYING,
00:13:12.400 --> 00:13:14.700
OKAY, WELL, WE'LL NEED YOU
TO COME IN THIS AND THAT.
00:13:14.800 --> 00:13:16.467
AND I'M LIKE, YOU
KNOW, BECAUSE
00:13:16.567 --> 00:13:18.333
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED.
00:13:18.433 --> 00:13:20.767
AND I'M LIKE, TOO LATE.
00:13:20.867 --> 00:13:23.167
THERE IS MOVEMENT AND
I'VE SEEN HER FOOT,
00:13:23.267 --> 00:13:24.934
AND SHE IS MOVING AGAIN.
00:13:25.034 --> 00:13:26.833
AND I EVEN GOT A LETTER
SAYING, YOU KNOW,
00:13:26.933 --> 00:13:28.700
SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.
00:13:28.800 --> 00:13:29.834
WE HAVE GRIEF COUNSELING.
00:13:29.934 --> 00:13:30.800
IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.
00:13:30.900 --> 00:13:32.100
AND THEY GO INTO
EXPLAINING ABOUT THE
00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:34.300
CHROMOSOMES AND EVERYTHING
AND JUST LETTING US KNOW.
00:13:34.367 --> 00:13:35.700
SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS,
BUT WE'RE HERE TO
00:13:35.800 --> 00:13:36.867
HELP YOU FOR COUNSELING.
00:13:36.967 --> 00:13:38.667
AND I'M LIKE, TOO LATE.
00:13:38.767 --> 00:13:40.000
REBECCA: WHAT DID THEY --
WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE
00:13:40.100 --> 00:13:41.766
WHEN THEY FOUND OUT
THAT SHE WAS ALIVE?
00:13:41.866 --> 00:13:43.200
HEATHER: THEY JUST DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
00:13:43.300 --> 00:13:48.300
AND THEY JUST WERE
LIKE, OKAY, WELL,
00:13:48.400 --> 00:13:49.400
I GUESS COME IN.
00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:50.733
REBECCA: WHAT YOUR OB SAY?
00:13:50.833 --> 00:13:55.000
SHE WAS JUST, WELL, SHE'S
A BELIEVER AND SHE'S LIKE,
00:13:55.100 --> 00:13:56.500
SHE KNOWS THE LORD.
00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:00.167
AND SO SHE JUST SAID,
YES, THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
00:14:00.267 --> 00:14:01.966
THAT SEEMS ABOUT RIGHT
THAT THE LORD WOULD,
00:14:02.066 --> 00:14:04.066
YOU KNOW, JUST
BELIEVING JESUS
00:14:04.166 --> 00:14:05.933
AND IT WAS THE
BLIND FAITH.
00:14:06.033 --> 00:14:07.300
THERE'S SOME MIRACLES,
00:14:07.400 --> 00:14:09.800
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME
FOR YOU TO PROCESS
00:14:09.900 --> 00:14:11.634
EVERYTHING
VERSUS A HEALING.
00:14:11.734 --> 00:14:12.834
REBECCA: IT'S ALMOST
LIKE INSTANTANEOUS.
00:14:12.934 --> 00:14:14.633
HEATHER: VERSUS A
HEALING JOURNEY,
00:14:14.733 --> 00:14:19.000
IT'S A WORK OF GETTING
PAST THIS NATURAL FLESH TO
00:14:19.100 --> 00:14:22.833
BECOME FULLY PERSUADED IN
YOUR HEART THAT I KNOW
00:14:22.933 --> 00:14:23.866
WHAT I HAVE.
00:14:23.966 --> 00:14:25.733
I KNOW WHAT
BELONGS TO ME.
00:14:25.833 --> 00:14:27.033
AND ANYTHING ELSE
00:14:27.133 --> 00:14:30.266
LIKE WITH SICKNESS, I GOT
TO A POINT THAT I GOT
00:14:30.366 --> 00:14:33.200
INDIGNANT WITH IT BECAUSE
SAYS IT'S ILLEGAL.
00:14:33.300 --> 00:14:36.200
IT IS A VIOLATION AGAINST
YOUR COVENANT WITH JESUS,
00:14:36.300 --> 00:14:38.833
WITH WHAT HE'S ALREADY
PROVIDED FOR YOU.
00:14:38.933 --> 00:14:40.500
AND WHEN YOU GET ON
THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT
00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:42.267
AND TRULY WITH HEALING,
00:14:42.367 --> 00:14:44.233
IF I COULD SUM IT UP
IN A WORD
00:14:44.333 --> 00:14:48.200
WITH THE IMPOSSIBLES,
WITH HAVING DOUBLE RENAL
00:14:48.300 --> 00:14:50.933
FAILURE, GETTING
A TRANSPLANT,
00:14:51.033 --> 00:14:53.233
WHICH WAS IMPOSSIBLE,
TO ALL OF IT,
00:14:53.333 --> 00:14:56.866
IT TRULY JUST CAME DOWN
TO HAVING A REVELATION.
00:14:56.966 --> 00:14:59.233
AND TRULY, LIKE I, I HAD
A JOURNEY OF READING AND
00:14:59.333 --> 00:15:01.100
READING AND READING AND
READING THE WORD AND
00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.666
KNOWING IT BACKWARDS AND
FORWARDS AND HEARING
00:15:03.766 --> 00:15:06.833
HEALING TAPES TO THE POINT
OF IT WAS TORMENTING TO
00:15:06.933 --> 00:15:09.500
LISTEN TO HEALING
BECAUSE I KNEW IT ALL.
00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.167
BUT AT THE TIME, I WAS
SEEING NOTHING CHANGE.
00:15:11.267 --> 00:15:13.000
AND THAT'S WHEN I GOT TO
THE END OF MYSELF AND I
00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:14.434
JUST SAID, WHAT IS IT?
00:15:14.534 --> 00:15:16.000
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?
00:15:16.100 --> 00:15:18.066
I KNOW THESE SCRIPTURES
BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS.
00:15:18.166 --> 00:15:20.367
THEY KEEP COMING TO ME
EVERY DAY ON THE DAILY
00:15:20.467 --> 00:15:21.334
SAYING, YOU'RE
GOING TO DIE,
00:15:21.434 --> 00:15:22.367
GET YOUR AFFAIRS IN ORDER.
00:15:22.467 --> 00:15:24.267
SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR
HUSBAND AND KIDS.
00:15:24.367 --> 00:15:25.733
AND I'M TIRED
OF HEARING THAT.
00:15:25.833 --> 00:15:27.300
REBECCA: SO YOU HAD THE
DOUBLE KIDNEY FAILURE?
00:15:27.400 --> 00:15:28.300
HEATHER: YEAH, I DID.
00:15:28.400 --> 00:15:29.767
REBECCA: AND SO YOU
WERE CONTENDING
00:15:29.867 --> 00:15:31.133
FOR HOW LONG?
00:15:31.233 --> 00:15:33.533
HEATHER: I WAS IN DIALYSIS
FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
00:15:33.633 --> 00:15:35.067
REBECCA: TWO AND A
HALF YEARS.
00:15:35.167 --> 00:15:36.566
AND YOU SAW NO CHANGE?
00:15:36.666 --> 00:15:37.933
HEATHER: NOTHING.
00:15:38.033 --> 00:15:39.900
REBECCA: AND SO YOU KIND OF GOT
TO THAT POINT WHERE YOU SAID,
00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:40.867
WHAT DO I --
00:15:40.967 --> 00:15:41.500
HEATHER: WHAT DO I DO?
00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:42.266
REBECCA: WHAT DO I DO?
00:15:42.366 --> 00:15:43.334
HEATHER: AND WHAT IS IT, LORD?
00:15:43.434 --> 00:15:44.700
REBECCA: AND WHAT DID YOU
HEAR FROM THE LORD?
00:15:44.800 --> 00:15:46.433
HEATHER: AND HE SAID, AND THE
HOLY SPIRIT SPOKE REAL
00:15:46.533 --> 00:15:47.766
SOFTLY, SAID, YOU KNOW
WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO?
00:15:47.866 --> 00:15:48.500
AND I SAID, WHAT?
00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:49.100
TELL ME.
00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:49.933
I'M STREAMING TEARS.
00:15:50.033 --> 00:15:51.033
WHAT IS IT?
00:15:51.133 --> 00:15:52.566
I KNOW THESE SCRIPTURES
BACKWARD AND FORWARDS,
00:15:52.666 --> 00:15:55.666
AND I KNOW I'M HEALED BECAUSE
IT'S ALREADY PROVIDED.
00:15:55.766 --> 00:15:57.833
AND HE SAID,
GET TO KNOW ME.
00:15:57.933 --> 00:15:58.867
REBECCA: OH.
00:15:58.967 --> 00:16:01.333
HEATHER: HE SAID, DON'T
KNOW ME TOPICALLY,
00:16:01.433 --> 00:16:03.533
GET IN RELATIONSHIP
WITH ME.
00:16:03.633 --> 00:16:05.933
HAVE -- COME IN
FELLOWSHIP WITH ME.
00:16:06.033 --> 00:16:09.867
COME AND GET SO
ENTHRALLED WITH HIM,
00:16:09.967 --> 00:16:14.133
WITH JUST HIM AND
COMMUNION AND RELATIONSHIP
00:16:14.233 --> 00:16:16.800
THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU
TURN YOUR EYES TO JESUS,
00:16:16.900 --> 00:16:19.000
THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD
GROW STRANGELY DIM
00:16:19.100 --> 00:16:20.334
AS THE SONG SAYS.
00:16:20.434 --> 00:16:23.666
I BECAME SO IN LOVE
WITH THE LORD
00:16:23.766 --> 00:16:26.000
THAT I DIDN'T CARE
IF I LIVED OR DIED.
00:16:26.100 --> 00:16:26.966
AND THERE WAS --
00:16:27.066 --> 00:16:29.733
IT LITERALLY JUST
OUTGREW ALL OF THE FEAR.
00:16:29.833 --> 00:16:32.567
IT GREW OUT ALL OF
THE DOUBT TO WHERE I
00:16:32.667 --> 00:16:36.433
COMPLETELY WAS
ALTERED TO ACTUALLY,
00:16:36.533 --> 00:16:39.067
WELL, I ACTUALLY RECEIVED A
HEALING AND WALKED OUT OF
00:16:39.167 --> 00:16:40.233
THE DIALYSIS CENTER.
00:16:40.333 --> 00:16:43.433
UNFORTUNATELY, I SPOKE TO
SOME PEOPLE THINKING WE'RE
00:16:43.533 --> 00:16:46.133
NOT TELLING ANYONE AND
KIND OF IN CONFIDENCE.
00:16:46.233 --> 00:16:48.767
BUT THEIR WORDS WERE
WEIGHTY AND THEY SAID,
00:16:48.867 --> 00:16:49.367
ARE YOU SURE?
00:16:49.467 --> 00:16:49.967
YOU'RE GOING TO DIE.
00:16:50.067 --> 00:16:50.733
DON'T DO THAT.
00:16:50.833 --> 00:16:52.133
GET BACK IN THERE.
00:16:52.233 --> 00:16:54.467
AND UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS
IN A FAITH JOURNEY WHERE I
00:16:54.567 --> 00:16:56.934
LITERALLY THEN HAD LEARNED
I HAD TO PUT MYSELF IN A
00:16:57.034 --> 00:16:59.967
BUBBLE WITH RELATIONSHIPS.
00:17:00.067 --> 00:17:01.067
I'M LIKE I'M SORRY,
00:17:01.167 --> 00:17:03.267
I'M NOT TRYING TO BE
OFFENSIVE, BUT EVERY WORD,
00:17:03.367 --> 00:17:05.333
EVERY MINUTE, MY
LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.
00:17:05.433 --> 00:17:06.700
AND I CAN'T DO --
00:17:06.800 --> 00:17:07.866
I'M IN MY OWN REVELATION.
00:17:07.966 --> 00:17:09.200
I WAS WORKING
OUT OF REVELATION,
00:17:09.300 --> 00:17:10.367
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
00:17:10.467 --> 00:17:13.767
WHERE I BECAME, I WAS IN A
PLACE OF BECOMING SO FULLY
00:17:13.867 --> 00:17:17.200
PERSUADED IN MY HEART
OF TRULY REVELATORY,
00:17:17.300 --> 00:17:18.867
NOT HEAD KNOWLEDGE,
NOT BOOK KNOWLEDGE,
00:17:18.967 --> 00:17:21.833
NOT TECH KNOWLEDGE, BUT
YOU KNOW THAT RHEMA WHERE
00:17:21.933 --> 00:17:24.866
IT JUST IT HITS
YOU AND YOU KNOW,
00:17:24.966 --> 00:17:27.600
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU MAKE
THE SWITCH AND IT DOESN'T
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MATTER WHAT ANYBODY
SAYS TO YOU,
00:17:29.500 --> 00:17:33.467
IT SLIDES OFF LIKE
WATER OFF A DUCK'S BACK.
00:17:33.567 --> 00:17:35.733
BUT YOU HAVE TO GET TO
THAT POINT WHERE YOUR MIND
00:17:35.833 --> 00:17:39.000
GETS SO IN ALIGNMENT WITH
THE WORD OF GOD THAT IT
00:17:39.100 --> 00:17:41.100
DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT ANYBODY SAYS.
00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.267
YOU KNOW, I WAS SO FULLY
PERSUADED IN MY HEART IN
00:17:44.367 --> 00:17:47.500
KNOWING AND SEEING
MYSELF HEALED AND WHOLE,
00:17:47.600 --> 00:17:50.167
EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T
QUITE THERE YET.
00:17:50.267 --> 00:17:52.367
IT CAME TO THE POINT TO
WHERE IT OUTGREW IT,
00:17:52.467 --> 00:17:55.666
TO WHERE I LITERALLY
BECAME HEALED AND WHOLE.
00:17:55.766 --> 00:17:57.433
REBECCA: SO AFTER YOU
TALKED TO THOSE PEOPLE,
00:17:57.533 --> 00:18:01.667
DID YOU GO BACK INTO THE
HOSPITAL OR DID YOU JUST
00:18:01.767 --> 00:18:02.867
BELIEVE FOR YOUR HEALING?
00:18:02.967 --> 00:18:04.633
AND THEN WHAT
HAPPENED AFTER THAT?
00:18:04.733 --> 00:18:06.900
HEATHER: SO IF YOU LEAVE A
DIALYSIS CENTER FOR MORE
00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.767
THAN 2 OR 3 RUNS, YOU'RE
DEAD BECAUSE YOUR LUNGS
00:18:10.867 --> 00:18:14.133
FILL UP WITH FLUID
AND YOU SUFFOCATE.
00:18:14.233 --> 00:18:18.000
BUT I WAS TWO AND A HALF
WEEKS LATER THAT
00:18:18.100 --> 00:18:19.000
WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
00:18:19.100 --> 00:18:21.800
SO THEN, YES, I
IMMEDIATELY I WAS FLOODED
00:18:21.900 --> 00:18:23.933
WITH I HAD NO SYMPTOMS.
00:18:24.033 --> 00:18:26.133
MY LEVELS WERE ALL GOOD.
00:18:26.233 --> 00:18:28.600
BUT ONCE I DID THAT, ALL,
EVERYTHING CAME BACK.
00:18:28.700 --> 00:18:31.066
MY ANKLES SWELLED UP,
MY FACE SWELLED UP,
00:18:31.166 --> 00:18:32.800
I JUST -- I WAS
FULL OF WATER.
00:18:32.900 --> 00:18:35.434
AND SO I IMMEDIATELY HAD
TO GET BACK IN THERE.
00:18:35.534 --> 00:18:40.600
AND THEN IT WAS LIKE
ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE
00:18:40.700 --> 00:18:43.433
WALKING AND THEN WALKING
IT OUT AGAIN AND THEN
00:18:43.533 --> 00:18:45.600
BECOMING VERY
PROTECTIVE IN REGARDS
00:18:45.700 --> 00:18:47.467
TO MY HEALING
00:18:47.567 --> 00:18:48.367
AS I WAS WALKING IT OUT.
00:18:48.467 --> 00:18:49.466
BECAUSE I NEEDED TO
00:18:49.566 --> 00:18:52.200
PROTECT BUILDING MY OWN
FAITH AND NOT LETTING
00:18:52.300 --> 00:18:55.433
ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE
I WAS SO FRAGILE.
00:18:55.533 --> 00:18:57.000
REBECCA: SO THAT WAS THE
LESSON YOU LEARNED FROM THAT
00:18:57.100 --> 00:18:59.300
ENCOUNTER WAS TO
PROTECT YOUR --
00:18:59.400 --> 00:18:59.934
HEATHER: MY FAITH.
00:19:00.034 --> 00:19:01.300
REBECCA: YOUR FAITH.
00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:04.533
HEATHER: YEAH, PROTECTING FAITH
AND BELIEVING GOD AND KNOWING
00:19:04.633 --> 00:19:06.033
BECAUSE HE'S
FULLY CONVINCED.
00:19:06.133 --> 00:19:06.667
HE KNOWS.
00:19:06.767 --> 00:19:08.334
HE KNOWS WHAT HE DID.
00:19:08.434 --> 00:19:09.367
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:19:09.467 --> 00:19:10.133
SO AFTER THAT YEAR,
THAT'S WHEN YOU GOT
00:19:10.233 --> 00:19:12.067
THE KIDNEY TRANSPLANT?
00:19:12.167 --> 00:19:13.167
HEATHER: YES.
00:19:13.267 --> 00:19:13.733
REBECCA: AND YOU'VE
BEEN GOOD EVER SINCE?
00:19:13.833 --> 00:19:14.834
HEATHER: OH, YEAH.
00:19:14.934 --> 00:19:16.433
I MEAN, I GOTTA BE HONEST,
THEY DON'T TELL YOU,
00:19:16.533 --> 00:19:19.400
BUT YOU KIND OF GET CRAZY
BECAUSE OF ALL THE MEDS
00:19:19.500 --> 00:19:20.433
YOU'RE ON.
00:19:20.533 --> 00:19:21.833
I WAS NOT MYSELF.
00:19:21.933 --> 00:19:24.400
LIKE THE KIDNEY I
RECEIVED WAS FROM
00:19:24.500 --> 00:19:26.867
A VERY BIG MAN
FROM GEORGIA,
00:19:26.967 --> 00:19:28.933
WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW
THAT AT THE TIME.
00:19:29.033 --> 00:19:32.167
SO JOE WOULD COME IN AND
HE WOULD FIND ME SCREAMING
00:19:32.267 --> 00:19:36.533
AT THE TELEVISION
WATCHING UFC,4 CLASSIC NBA,
00:19:36.633 --> 00:19:37.967
LIKE THE CLASSICS.
00:19:38.067 --> 00:19:40.900
I MEAN, I LOVED THE OLYMPICS
WITH THE DREAM TEAM,
00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.567
LIKE BASKETBALL, I
WAS ALL ABOUT THAT AND UFC.
00:19:44.667 --> 00:19:46.967
AND I WAS EATING HOT
WINGS AND HE'D COME IN,
00:19:47.067 --> 00:19:49.067
I'M YELLING AT THE TEAM WITH
MY HOT WINGS AND I'M LIKE,
00:19:49.167 --> 00:19:49.867
HOT WING?
00:19:49.967 --> 00:19:51.000
AND HE'S LIKE,
WHAT IS GOING --
00:19:51.100 --> 00:19:53.800
SO I CHANGED A LITTLE BIT,
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS --
00:19:53.900 --> 00:19:55.400
BUT THEY DON'T
TELL YOU, YOU DO.
00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:57.300
THEY CAN'T BECAUSE
OF LEGAL REASONS.
00:19:57.400 --> 00:19:59.133
BUT YOU DO COME OUT OF IT.
00:19:59.233 --> 00:20:00.834
AND MOST PEOPLE, ANOTHER
THING THEY DON'T TELL YOU
00:20:00.934 --> 00:20:03.133
IS, IS I THINK
ALMOST TWO YEARS IN,
00:20:03.233 --> 00:20:04.567
I CAME IN AND
THEY'RE LIKE, WOW,
00:20:04.667 --> 00:20:05.866
YOU GUYS LOOK REALLY GOOD.
00:20:05.966 --> 00:20:07.100
I'M LIKE, THANKS.
00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:08.600
AND LIKE KIND OF, WHAT
ARE YOU GETTING AT?
00:20:08.700 --> 00:20:09.267
WHAT?
00:20:09.367 --> 00:20:09.867
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?
00:20:09.967 --> 00:20:10.433
THAT'S AWESOME.
00:20:10.533 --> 00:20:11.400
THANK YOU.
00:20:11.500 --> 00:20:12.833
AND THEY SAID, NO,
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
00:20:12.933 --> 00:20:15.000
MOST PEOPLE WHO GO
THROUGH TRANSPLANT,
00:20:15.100 --> 00:20:19.433
ABOUT 80% END UP IN
DIVORCE BECAUSE IT CHANGES
00:20:19.533 --> 00:20:21.167
YOU SO MUCH.
00:20:21.267 --> 00:20:21.834
AND THE --
00:20:21.934 --> 00:20:22.900
REBECCA: WOW.
00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.800
HEATHER: THE CHANGE OF
TAKING ON SOMEONE ELSE'S
00:20:24.900 --> 00:20:28.133
ORGAN AND ALL OF THE
EFFECTS OF THE MEDS,
00:20:28.233 --> 00:20:31.800
IT TAKES TIME AND THEY
CAN'T GIVE YOU A TIME FRAME,
00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:33.834
BECAUSE AGAIN,
LEGAL REASONS,
00:20:33.934 --> 00:20:35.900
THEY HOPE YOU
COME OUT OF IT.
00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:36.900
THEY HOPE YOU CHANGE.
00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:39.100
THEY'RE JUST GLAD
YOU'RE ALIVE.
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:40.967
SO IT'S A BIG PROCESS.
00:20:41.067 --> 00:20:41.867
IT REALLY IS.
00:20:41.967 --> 00:20:44.734
SO, YEAH, IT WAS IT
WAS INTERESTING.
00:20:44.834 --> 00:20:47.000
AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER
THING WHERE YOU JUST WORK
00:20:47.100 --> 00:20:48.333
THROUGH THE MIND
AND WORK THROUGH.
00:20:48.433 --> 00:20:49.500
REBECCA: AND SO YOU HAD
TO WALK THROUGH,
00:20:49.600 --> 00:20:50.533
EVEN AFTER GETTING
YOUR KIDNEY,
00:20:50.633 --> 00:20:51.900
YOU HAD TO ONCE AGAIN
WALK WITH THE LORD.
00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:52.900
HEATHER: OH, YEAH.
00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.467
REBECCA; AND ALLOW HIM
TO BRING YOU BACK.
00:20:55.567 --> 00:20:56.333
HEATHER: YEAH.
00:20:56.433 --> 00:20:59.334
AND JOSEPH, TOO,
BECAUSE HE'S LIKE,
00:20:59.434 --> 00:21:00.834
THIS IS NOT MY WIFE.
00:21:00.934 --> 00:21:02.100
LIKE LORD, YOU KNOW.
00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:03.800
REBECCA: SO THESE ARE
THE TRIALS THAT
00:21:03.900 --> 00:21:05.000
THE LORD WHEN
YOU WERE BACK
00:21:05.100 --> 00:21:06.967
WHEN YOU WERE 12 YEARS OLD
AND YOU WERE IN HIS HANDS,
00:21:07.067 --> 00:21:08.766
HE WAS SAYING, IT'S
ALL GOING TO WORK OUT,
00:21:08.866 --> 00:21:12.433
BUT HE WAS PREPARING YOU
FOR THAT HARD ROAD AHEAD.
00:21:12.533 --> 00:21:14.567
HEATHER: AND JOHN PAUL
ACTUALLY PROPHESIED
00:21:14.667 --> 00:21:16.667
TO JOSEPH ABOUT HIS WIFE.
00:21:16.767 --> 00:21:18.000
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:21:18.100 --> 00:21:19.867
HEATHER: AND SAID, YOU'RE GOING
TO BE A PROTECTION FOR HER.
00:21:19.967 --> 00:21:23.067
AND, BUT I'VE DESIGNED
HER FOR YOU BECAUSE,
00:21:23.167 --> 00:21:24.233
HE USED THE SAME WORDS,
00:21:24.333 --> 00:21:28.100
BECAUSE I'VE DESIGNED
YOU FOR ASSIGNMENTS.
00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.533
AND SO WHEN YOU KNOW
WHERE YOU'VE COME FROM,
00:21:30.633 --> 00:21:33.634
LIKE I'VE HAD THE GREAT
HONOR AND PRIVILEGE
00:21:33.734 --> 00:21:38.434
TO BE WITH HIM OUTSIDE OF
THIS BROKE, FALLEN WORLD.
00:21:38.534 --> 00:21:40.800
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE
A REVELATION LIKE,
00:21:40.900 --> 00:21:42.334
I KNOW WHERE I
COME FROM
00:21:42.434 --> 00:21:44.066
AND I KNOW I'M MEANT
FOR A PURPOSE
00:21:44.166 --> 00:21:47.233
AND I KNOW I'M DESIGNED
SPECIFICALLY FOR
00:21:47.333 --> 00:21:49.100
THOSE TWO THINGS,
00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:53.200
THERE'S NOTHING THAT
YOU CAN'T DO.
00:21:53.300 --> 00:21:57.100
AND IT AND IT'S PURPOSE TO
HELP OTHERS TO CONTINUE
00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.167
AND SAY, COME ON,
YOU CAN DO IT.
00:21:59.267 --> 00:22:01.033
WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER
00:22:01.133 --> 00:22:04.800
AND TO GET HIS LOST KIDS
BACK INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
00:22:04.900 --> 00:22:05.800
REBECCA: THAT'S SO POWERFUL.
00:22:05.900 --> 00:22:07.200
WELL, THANK YOU
SO MUCH, HEATHER,
00:22:07.300 --> 00:22:09.000
FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
00:22:09.100 --> 00:22:10.067
AND FOR MORE
INFORMATION ON YOU,
00:22:10.134 --> 00:22:11.167
WHERE CAN PEOPLE GO?
00:22:11.267 --> 00:22:12.634
HEATHER: JOSEPHZ.COM
00:22:12.734 --> 00:22:13.733
REBECCA: ALL RIGHT.
00:22:13.833 --> 00:22:15.534
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO
00:22:15.634 --> 00:22:16.900
THEREBECCA WEISS PODCAST .