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REBECCA LAMB WEISS:
TODAY I SAT DOWN

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AND TALKED WITH
ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.

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WE TALKED ABOUT HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

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AND HOW TO STAND UP
AND DO THE RIGHT THING

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IN THE FACE
OF GREAT OPPOSITION.

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YOU'RE GOING TO WANT
TO CHECK THIS OUT.



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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: WE'RE
JUST GOING TO START TALKING

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BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU
NEED MUCH OF AN INTRO.

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I'M HERE WITH
ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.

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I CANNOT BELIEVE IT.


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THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.


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ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: THANKS
SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME BACK.

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REBECCA: I JUST WANT TO SAY
I'M SO PROUD OF YOU AND,

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MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE
I'M HORMONAL.

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BECAUSE I JUST HAD A BABY.
BUT --

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RFK, JR.: CONGRATULATIONS,


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BY THE WAY.


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REBECCA: THANK YOU.


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I HAVE THREE CHILDREN, AND,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF YOUR WORK,

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SO MANY MOTHERS,
THEIR KIDS ARE HEALTHY

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BECAUSE YOU'VE
HELPED INFORM PARENTS

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ABOUT THE
DANGERS OF VACCINES

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AND JUST EVERYTHING GOING ON IN,
IN BIG PHARMA, BIG FOOD.

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SO I WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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FIRST AND FOREMOST.


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RFK. JR.: WELL, THANK YOU.


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REBECCA: YEAH, IT'S SUCH AN
IMPORTANT MESSAGE.

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AND YOU KNOW, NOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT

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BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT,
YOU PUT A TARGET ON YOUR BACK.

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AND I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST
THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU IS,

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HOW DOES SOMEONE
STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING

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WHEN THEY KNOW THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO FACE

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GREAT OPPOSITION
WHEN THEY DO IT?

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RFK, JR.: WELL, YOU KNOW, FIRST
OF ALL, YOU'RE A -- YOUR MOM

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AND MARCUS WERE THE, YOU KNOW,
WERE THE TEMPLATES FOR COURAGE

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DURING COVID.


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THIS WAS
ONE OF THE ONLY PLATFORMS

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WHERE I COULD ACTUALLY COME AND
TELL THE TRUTH ON TELEVISION.

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IT'S PROBABLY THE
ONLY PLATFORM.

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AND I WAS SPEAKING TO SUCH
A LARGE AUDIENCE AND THEY,

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YOU KNOW, THEY PAID
A PRICE FOR THAT.

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BUT THEY
TOLD THE TRUTH.

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AND NOW, YOU KNOW THAT I
THINK THE ANSWER IS THAT,

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF
SPIRITUAL COMMITMENT

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BECAUSE THE,
THE PUNISHMENT

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AND THE DISINCENTIVES FOR
TELLING THE TRUTH

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ARE OFTEN OVERWHELMING


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IF YOU ARE JUST LIVING
IN THE MATERIAL WORLD.

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YOU KNOW, I WAS RAISED
WITH MY, I'LL TELL YOU, MY,

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MY DAD HAD A CONVERSATION
WITH ME ABOUT TWO WEEKS

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BEFORE HE DIED, WHERE HE
GAVE ME A BOOK,

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AND IT WAS A BOOK BY CAMUS, AND
IT WAS CALLED<i>THE PLAGUE</i> .

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AND HE HAD ME IN HIS
ROOM, HIS BEDROOM,

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AND HE HANDED ME THAT BOOK
AND HE SAID,

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I WANT YOU
TO READ THIS.

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I WAS 14 YEARS OLD AT THE
TIME, AND MY FATHER OFTEN

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GAVE ME BOOKS
TO READ OR POEMS TO READ,

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AND ASKED ME
TO READ IT,

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BUT HE SAID IT WITH
A KIND OF A SPECIAL INTENSITY.

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AND THEN TWO WEEKS LATER,
HE WAS DEAD.

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AND SO I, YOU KNOW,
WENT THROUGH THAT BOOK.

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I READ IT A NUMBER OF TIMES
IN ORDER TO KIND OF UNLOCK

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THE MESSAGE
OF THE LESSON

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THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
GIVING ME OR THAT HE INTENDED

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TO GIVE ME, AND
THE BOOK IS ABOUT A DOCTOR

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IN A FORTIFIED CITY
IN NORTHERN AFRICA

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DURING AN EPIDEMIC AND
THE CITY IS EMBARGOED.

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SO IT'S UNDER QUARANTINE
AND NOBODY CAN COME IN

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AND COME OUT AND
THE PLOT IS AROUND THIS DOCTOR.

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AND AT THE BEGINNING OF
THE BOOK, HE'S IN HIS APARTMENT

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FRIGHTENED TO
GO OUT

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BECAUSE THIS PLAGUE IS A VERY
HIGH INFECTION FATALITY RATE.

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NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS.


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NOBODY KNOWS
HOW TO TREAT IT.

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AND CAMUS DESCRIBES
THE CONVERSATIONS

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THAT THIS DOCTOR IS
HAVING IN HIS OWN HEAD

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ABOUT WHY SHOULD
HE GO OUT?

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BECAUSE HE CAN'T
REALLY HELP ANYBODY.

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HE DOESN'T
KNOW THE TREATMENT

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AND HE DOESN'T
KNOW ANY PROTOCOLS.

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AND HE'S HIGHLY LIKELY TO
DIE HIMSELF IF HE GETS EXPOSED.

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AND WHY NOT JUST
WAIT THIS OUT

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IN HIS APARTMENT?


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AND IN THE END, HE GOES
OUT AND HE DOES HIS DUTY,

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WHICH IS TO MINISTER TO
THE SICK AND TO COMFORT THEM,

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EVEN IF HE
CAN'T CURE THEM.

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CAMUS, WHO WROTE THIS, WAS
AN EXISTENTIALIST,

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AND HE WAS IN THE
TRADITION OF THE STOICS

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OF ANCIENT ROME AND GREECE,
AND STOICISM WAS,

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THE ICONIC HERO OF THE
STOICS IS SISYPHUS.

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AND SISYPHUS WAS A PERSON
WHO DID SOME GREAT BENEFIT

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FOR HUMANITY,
AND AS A RESULT,

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BUT IT OFFENDED THE GODS,
AND HE WAS CURSED BY THE GODS.

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AND HIS SENTENCE WAS TO PUSH
A BOULDER UP A HILL EVERY DAY

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TO TRY TO GET IT
OVER THE TOP,

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AND HE WOULD ALWAYS MAKE IT
ALMOST TO THE TIPPY TOP SUMMIT.

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JUST BEFORE HE
REACHED THERE,

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THE BOULDER WOULD ALWAYS
COME BACK AND CRUSH HIM

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AND MANGLE HIM AND THEN IT WOULD
ROLL DOWN THE HILL

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AND ALL NIGHT LONG HE HAD TO
WALK BACK DOWN THE HILL.

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AND IN THE MORNING HE
STARTED PUSHING THE BOULDER

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UP THE HILL AGAIN.


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AND HE WAS DOOMED TO
DO THAT FOR ETERNITY.

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BUT WHAT,


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IN THE EYES
OF MOST PEOPLE,

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SISYPHUS WOULD HAVE BEEN
A MISERABLE PERSON,

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BECAUSE THAT'S
A MISERABLE LIFE.

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BUT IN THE EYES OF THE
STOICS, HE WAS A HAPPY MAN

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BECAUSE HE PUT HIS
SHOULDER TO THE STONE.

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HE HAD HIS DUTY AND
HE PERFORMED IT.

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AND IN DOING THAT,


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HE BROUGHT SOME ORDER
TO A CHAOTIC UNIVERSE.

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AND THROWING HIS GAUNTLET
DOWN AT THE GODS AND SAYING,

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I'M GOING TO DO THIS,
I'M GOING TO DO MY DUTY,

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MY JOB, AND I'M GOING TO
PERFORM IT TO THE BEST I CAN,

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EVEN IF IT'S
HOPELESS AND FRUITLESS

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AND SOMEHOW
THAT WILLINGNESS

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TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED
TO DO BRINGS ORDER

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TO AN
ABSURD UNIVERSE.

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AND, YOU KNOW, MY
FATHER BELIEVED THAT

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WE SHOULD BE INDIFFERENT TO
WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT US,

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THAT WE SHOULD DO
THE NEXT RIGHT THING,

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AND THAT WE HAD
TO BE INDIFFERENT,

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ULTIMATELY
TO THE WORLD

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AND TO, YOU KNOW,
WHAT THE STOICS BELIEVED,

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AND MY FATHER WAS A
STOIC, IS THAT WE SHOULD

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BE INDIFFERENT TO OUR
OWN DESIRES, OUR OWN PAIN,

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OUR OWN, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE
THINGS THAT DRIVE US

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IN THE MATERIAL WORLD
AND THAT WE SHOULD,

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OUR DUTY WAS TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT OUR FUNCTION WAS

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AND TO PERFORM IT
NO MATTER WHAT THE COST.

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SO I GREW UP KIND OF IN THAT
MILIEU, AND TO ME, YOU KNOW,

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EVERY PERSON THAT
I'VE ADMIRED THROUGHOUT MY LIFE

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HAVE BEEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,
WHO I READ ABOUT,

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HISTORICAL FIGURES,
THEY'RE ALL PEOPLE,

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THEY WENT
THROUGH A VALLEY

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OF THE
SHADOW OF DEATH.

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THEY WENT THROUGH PERIODS WHEN
THE WORLD TURNED AGAINST THEM,

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WHEN THEY WERE
ABANDONED BY THEIR FRIENDS,

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WHEN THEY WERE, THEY BECAME
PARIAHS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

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AND THEY PERSEVERED.


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SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW,
THE PUBLIC REBUKES THAT

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I, AS LONG AS I FEEL LIKE
I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING,

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THE PUBLIC REBUKES
ARE A KIND OF GIFT

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BECAUSE THEY'RE
CONFIRMATORY THAT, YOU KNOW,

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I'M DOING SOMETHING DIFFICULT
AND THAT I SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW,

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I NEED TO BE
GRATEFUL FOR THAT

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AND NEVER
FEEL LIKE A VICTIM

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AND NEVER FEEL SELF-PITY
AND NEVER, YOU KNOW,

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LAPSE INTO THOSE,
INTO THOSE MIRES.

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SO, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I'M DOING
WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

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I'M VERY
CONFIDENT OF THAT.

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AND, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY
OTHER JOB IS TO BE GRATEFUL

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AND
TO BE PEACEFUL.

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REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.


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AND DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT
GRATITUDE AND THAT PEACEFULNESS,

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YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,
IT HELPED,

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IT HELPS GROUND YOU GOING
THROUGH THESE DIFFICULTIES

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AND IT HELPS
PROPEL YOU FORWARD?

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RFK, JR.: YEAH.


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I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW,
SAINT FRANCIS OF ASSISI SAID

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THAT WE SHOULD TURN OUR
LIVES INTO A PRAYER

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AND SO THAT WE'RE
IN CONSCIOUS CONTACT WITH GOD

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EVERY WAKING MOMENT OF THE DAY
AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW,

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PRAY BY ROTE IN THE
MORNING OR AT NIGHT TO,

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YOU KNOW, TO TURN EVERYTHING
WE DO WHEN WE'RE EATING,

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WHEN WE'RE EXERCISING,
WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR WORK

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AND ALL OF
THAT SHOULD BE PERFORMED

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AS A PRAYER.


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AND I, YOU KNOW,
I TRY TO DO THAT.

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I TRY TO KEEP GOD CLOSE TO
ME ALL THE TIME TO, YOU KNOW,

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CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT
POSTURE OF SURRENDER.

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I GOT SOBER WHEN I WAS
28 YEARS OLD IN 1983,

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AND I CAME IN REALLY BROKEN
AND I SURRENDERED TO MY GOD

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AT THAT POINT,
TO A HIGHER POWER.

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MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT
MY INCLINATION, LIKE,

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I THINK MOST OF US, IS THAT WHEN
THE CHIPS ARE DOWN, YOU KNOW,

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GOD IS VERY, VERY
PRESENT FOR US,

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AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO WHAT WE
HAVE TO DO AND TO INVITE HIM

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INTO OUR LIVES AND TO
SURRENDER TO HIS WILL.

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BUT THEN WHEN, YOU KNOW,
LIFE STARTS GETTING GOOD AGAIN,

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WHICH MY LIFE WENT
FROM BEING VERY, VERY SMALL

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WHEN I WAS AN ADDICT TO VERY
BIG, VERY BIG, VERY QUICKLY.

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AND MY INCLINATION WHEN THE CASH
AND PRIZES START FLOWING IN

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IS TO SAY THANK YOU, GOD,
I GOT IT FROM HERE.

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AND THEN TAKE THE WHEELS
OF THE CAR AND DRIVE IT

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OFF THE CLIFF AGAIN, AND THEN
HAVE TO COME IN ON MY KNEES

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AGAIN.


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AND THE CHALLENGE IS,
HOW DO YOU STAY

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IN THAT
POSTURE OF SURRENDER,

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EVEN WHEN EVERYTHING IS
GOING WELL IN YOUR LIFE?

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AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE BECAUSE
SO MUCH ABOUT OF ADDICTION

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IS ABOUT ABUSE OF POWER
AND SO MUCH OF THE SORT OF

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THE TEMPTATIONS OF LIFE


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AND THE BAD PATHS WE GO DOWN ARE
ALL ABOUT FOLLOWING SELF-WILL

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AND ABOUT
ALL OF US ARE GIVEN,

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YOU KNOW, SOME POWER IN
OUR LIVES AND MAYBE GOOD LOOKS

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AND MAYBE ATHLETIC ABILITY
AND MAYBE WEALTH

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AND MAYBE CONNECTIONS.


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IT MAY BE EDUCATION, BUT
DO WE MAKE THAT ASSET

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SERVE A GREATER PURPOSE,
WHICH IS GOD'S WILL,

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OR DO WE MAKE IT
THE SLAVE TO SELF-WILL?

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AND, YOU KNOW, SELF-WILL
IS ALWAYS THE ENEMY

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AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGE
IS HOW DO YOU STAY IN SELF-WILL?

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AND WHAT I TRY TO DO IS
I TRY TO TURN MY LIFE.

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I TRY TO LOOK AT EVERY DAY
GOD GIVES US THIS GIFT OF TIME,

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BUT HE BREAKS IT INTO
MANAGEABLE UNITS CALLED DAYS.

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AND EVERY DAY WE GET
TO TRY AGAIN TO LIVE

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A PERFECT DAY AND
PERFECT SURRENDER.

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AND I TRY TO GET UP IN THE
MORNING AND THEN DO THE THINGS,

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YOU KNOW, BREAK MY DAY DOWN INTO
ABOUT 40 DIFFERENT DECISIONS,

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EACH ONE THAT NOW HAS
A MORAL IMPLICATION FOR ME.

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OH, DO I GET UP?


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YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY
WHEN THE ALARM GOES OFF,

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DO I
MAKE MY BED?

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DO I HANG UP THE TOWELS?


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DO I PUT THE WATER
BACK IN THE ICE TRAY

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BEFORE I PUT THE ICE TRAY
BACK IN THE FREEZER?

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DO I PUT THE SHOPPING CART
WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO

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IN THE PARKING LOT?


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WHEN I FIRST
GOT SOBER, MY LIFE, AS I SAID,

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WENT FROM BEING VERY SMALL,
VERY BIG, VERY QUICKLY.

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AND I WAS RUNNING
ABOUT 2 OR 3 MONTHS LATER,

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I WAS RUNNING THROUGH
NATIONAL AIRPORT IN WASHINGTON

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TO CATCH A PLANE
THAT I WAS GOING TO MISS,

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BUT THAT GETTING ON
THAT PLANE WAS MISSION CRITICAL.

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IT WAS LIKE THE APOCALYPSE
WAS GOING TO HAPPEN

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IF I DIDN'T
GET ON THAT PLANE.

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I WAS RUNNING AS FAST AS
I COULD, AND AS I WAS RUNNING,

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I WAS BALLING
UP A LITTLE PIECE.

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I PUT SOME DENTYNE GUM
IN MY MOUTH,

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AND I WAS BALLING UP THE
WRAPPER, AND I WAS RUNNING

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PAST THE GARBAGE CAN AND I THREW
THE WRAPPER IN THE GARBAGE CAN

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AND MADE A PERFECT ARC
RIGHT INTO THE CENTER

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OF THE GARBAGE CAN.


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BUT AS I WAS RUNNING
PAST IT, I NOTICED THAT

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IT MUST HAVE HIT SOMETHING IN
THERE BECAUSE IT JUMPED BACK OUT

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THAT LITTLE WRAPPER
AND I WAS LIKE,

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WELL, THAT WAS GOD'S FAULT
BECAUSE I MADE THE SHOT,

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YOU KNOW?


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SO THAT'S GOD'S PROBLEM
THAT IT JUMPED BACK OUT

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AND I
CONTINUED RUNNING.

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BUT THEN I GOT MAYBE 40 OR 50
OR 60 FEET DOWN THAT TERMINAL

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AND IT JUST
STARTED EATING AT ME.

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AND I FINALLY I PUT ON
THE BRAKES AND I WENT BACK

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AND I PUT THAT, YOU KNOW,
WRAPPER BACK IN THE GARBAGE CAN.

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AS FOR ME, THAT EVEN THOUGH
I DID MAKE THE PLANE,

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BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT
DECISION I MADE THAT DAY

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WAS TO DO THAT,


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BECAUSE THAT KEPT ME IN THAT
POSTURE OF SURRENDER.

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AND THAT IS THE
CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US.

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HOW DO WE STAY, YOU KNOW,
IN THAT POSTURE OF GOD'S WILL

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RATHER THAN,
YOU KNOW, SELF-WILL?

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I HAVE A FRIEND OF MINE
WHO SAYS AT THE, YOU KNOW,

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THE DEVIL SLEEPS LATE.


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AND HE SAYS, IT'S REALLY
EASY TO BE A GOOD PERSON

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EARLY IN THE MORNING.


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AND THEN LATER ON
IN THE DAY, YOU KNOW,

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YOU START
MAKING MISTAKES.

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AND WHEN I, I SPENT A LOT
OF TIME DOING EXTREME SPORTS

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IN MY LIFE.


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SO I DID A LOT OF
WHITEWATER KAYAKING

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AND A LOT OF FIRST ASCENTS ON
RIVERS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE

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BEFORE.


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AND ALSO
BACKCOUNTRY SKIING.

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AND WHEN YOU'RE DOING,
PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE

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DOING A WHITEWATER RIVER, YOU
COME TO A BIG CLASS FIVE RAPID.

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YOU USUALLY CLIMB UP ON
A BLUFF ABOVE THE RAPID

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BEFORE YOU RUN IT, AND YOU
STUDY THE WATER,

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YOU STUDY THE ROCKS,
THE OBSTACLES,

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AND YOU MAKE A PLAN.


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YOU PLAN YOUR MOVES.


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AND YOU MAY HAVE TO
MAKE 8 OR 9 MOVES

00:14:20.899 --> 00:14:22.032
GETTING THROUGH THAT,


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THAT STRETCH
OF WHITEWATER.

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YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO CROSS
RIVER FERRIES OR, YOU KNOW,

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WHATEVER IT IS.


00:14:29.233 --> 00:14:33.166
AND YOU PLAN EACH ONE OF YOUR
MOVES AND YOU PLAN YOUR LINE.

00:14:33.266 --> 00:14:35.599
IT'S CALLED YOUR LINE.


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AND THEN WHEN YOU GET IN
THE RIVER, IF YOU CAN STAY

00:14:38.666 --> 00:14:40.266
ON THAT LINE, YOU'RE
GOING TO BE SAFE.

00:14:40.366 --> 00:14:42.066
BUT A LOT OF TIMES,
YOU'LL WASH OUT

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AND THEN YOU'RE
AT THE MERCY OF THE RIVER.

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AND TO ME, I DO
MEDITATIONS EVERY DAY.

00:14:48.966 --> 00:14:52.166
AND THE MEDITATIONS THAT
I DO ARE LIKE STANDING

00:14:52.266 --> 00:14:55.799
ON TOP OF THAT BLUFF AND
WATCHING AND FIGURING OUT

00:14:55.899 --> 00:14:57.899
WHAT MY DAY IS, YOU KNOW,
DO I NEED TO HAVE

00:14:57.999 --> 00:15:01.132
A CONVERSATION WITH
ONE OF MY KIDS?

00:15:01.232 --> 00:15:05.133
AM I GOING TO MAKE
THAT KID FEEL LOVED?

00:15:05.233 --> 00:15:06.166
AM I GOING TO?


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AM I GOING TO HAVE TO
APPEAR IN COURT,

00:15:08.333 --> 00:15:12.166
AND WHEN I APPEAR IN COURT, AM
I GOING TO BE DOING GOD'S WILL

00:15:12.266 --> 00:15:13.266
AND BE HONEST?


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AND WHATEVER THE CAUSE
THAT I'M GOING TO DO THAT,

00:15:15.700 --> 00:15:17.299
I MAY HAVE TO WRITE,


00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:22.266
WHATEVER IT IS I NEED TO DO
THAT DAY OR GO ON A TV SHOW.

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I ASKED WHO TO DO THAT AND
TO KEEP GOD IN MY MIND

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WHILE I DO THAT, AND GOD, IN MY
INTENTIONS AND IN MY ACTIONS,

00:15:30.632 --> 00:15:31.932
AND FOR THE
STRENGTH TO DO THAT,

00:15:32.032 --> 00:15:36.466
AND IT'S LIKE PLANTING
THAT LINE FOR THE DAY.

00:15:36.566 --> 00:15:39.632
AND THERE'S ALMOST NO
TIME THAT I MAKE THAT LINE

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ALL THE WAY DOWN.


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BUT I MAY MAKE THE FIRST,
YOU KNOW, 10 OF THE 11 MOVES,

00:15:44.100 --> 00:15:45.933
AND THAT'S
A PRETTY GOOD DAY.

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AND THEN THE GREAT THING IS I
GET TO START AGAIN THE NEXT DAY.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:51.933
FINAL QUESTION.


00:15:52.033 --> 00:15:53.100
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GONE
THROUGH SO MUCH IN YOUR LIFE,

00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.799
YOU'VE SEEN SO MANY
THINGS, BUT HOW HAS JESUS

00:15:55.899 --> 00:15:58.799
REVEALED HIMSELF TO
YOU IN YOUR LIFE?

00:15:58.899 --> 00:16:02.266
RFK, JR.: WELL, I, LIKE I SAY, I
TRY TO STAY IN CONSCIOUS CONTACT

00:16:02.366 --> 00:16:04.333
WITH GOD.


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AND, YOU KNOW, I SEE
GOD'S PRESENCE IN MY LIFE

00:16:06.933 --> 00:16:08.632
THROUGH ALL THESE
LITTLE SYNCHRONICITIES,

00:16:08.732 --> 00:16:15.133
THESE COINCIDENCES THAT HAPPEN,
THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.

00:16:15.233 --> 00:16:24.000
YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK, MY WIFE
WAS HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME,

00:16:24.100 --> 00:16:26.633
AND I
WAS THINKING TO MYSELF,

00:16:26.733 --> 00:16:30.966
WE WERE GETTING ON A PLANE TO
TAKE THE FIRST VACATION

00:16:31.066 --> 00:16:33.866
THAT I'VE HAD IN 17
MONTHS, THE FIRST DAY OFF.

00:16:33.966 --> 00:16:37.200
AND WE WERE GOING TO DO
THREE DAYS IN MEXICO.

00:16:37.300 --> 00:16:41.399
BUT SHE WAS A
STRUGGLING WITH AN ISSUE.

00:16:41.499 --> 00:16:45.066
AND I WAS THINKING TO
MYSELF, I HAVE A FRIEND

00:16:45.166 --> 00:16:50.699
WHO'S KIND OF A HEALER
AND A, YOU KNOW, A PSYCHOLOGIST.

00:16:50.799 --> 00:16:53.399
AND I WAS THINKING, AND I
HAD SAID TO HER THE DAY BEFORE,

00:16:53.499 --> 00:16:56.266
I REALLY WANT YOU
TO TALK TO THIS FRIEND OF MINE.

00:16:56.366 --> 00:16:58.800
BUT WE WERE NOW ON A PLANE
TO MEXICO, SO, YOU KNOW,

00:16:58.900 --> 00:17:00.100
THAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE.


00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.066
BUT I WAS SITTING
ON THAT PLANE THINKING,

00:17:03.166 --> 00:17:06.600
I REALLY WISH SHE HAD BEEN ABLE
TO TALK TO HIM BEFORE WE WENT

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ON THIS TRIP.


00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:12.433
AND AT THAT MOMENT, THE GUY
WALKS ONTO THE PLANE AND SITS

00:17:12.533 --> 00:17:17.099
AND HE AND HIS WIFE,
WE WERE IN THE FIRST ROW

00:17:17.199 --> 00:17:19.533
AND THERE WERE FOUR SEATS
IN THE FIRST ROW,

00:17:19.633 --> 00:17:22.299
AND HE AND HIS WIFE WERE
IN THE OTHER TWO SEATS.

00:17:22.399 --> 00:17:24.900
REBECCA: NO.


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RFK. JR.: AND HE ENDED UP, I
ENDED UP TRADING SEATS WITH HIM,

00:17:26.499 --> 00:17:29.499
AND HE SAT NEXT TO MY WIFE
DURING THAT TRIP AND, YOU KNOW,

00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:34.066
AND REALLY SAID THE
WORDS THAT SHE NEEDED TO HEAR

00:17:34.166 --> 00:17:35.733
TO RESET HERSELF.


00:17:35.833 --> 00:17:37.066
AND IT WAS REALLY
BEAUTIFUL.

00:17:37.166 --> 00:17:39.633
BUT THAT KIND OF
SYNCHRONICITIES, YOU KNOW,

00:17:39.733 --> 00:17:41.799
HAPPENED TO ME ALL
THE TIME, IN FACT.

00:17:41.899 --> 00:17:43.200
AND THEY'RE
REALLY MIRACLES

00:17:43.300 --> 00:17:45.332
BECAUSE THIS CHANCE OF
THAT HAPPENING ARE, WHAT,

00:17:45.432 --> 00:17:46.932
ONE IN A TRILLION.


00:17:47.032 --> 00:17:48.166
RIGHT.


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AND YET IT HAPPENED.


00:17:51.232 --> 00:17:55.166
AND I SEE THAT KIND OF STUFF
ALMOST EVERY DAY IN MY LIFE.

00:17:55.266 --> 00:17:56.999
AND I NOW SORT
OF COUNT ON IT.

00:17:57.099 --> 00:18:02.500
AND I'M NOT SURPRISED BY IT, BUT
IT'S JUST A CONFIRMATION FOR ME

00:18:02.600 --> 00:18:03.966
THAT GOD IS
IN MY LIFE

00:18:04.066 --> 00:18:07.400
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT
AN ABSTRACTION, THAT IT'S REAL

00:18:07.500 --> 00:18:10.433
AND THAT, YOU KNOW,
WE ALL HAVE TO WALK

00:18:10.533 --> 00:18:13.100
WITH ONE FOOT
IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD

00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:19.699
AND ONE FOOT
IN THE MATERIAL WORLD.

00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:21.832
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT
EASIEST ARE THE MONKS

00:18:21.932 --> 00:18:25.300
WHO GO UP AND, YOU KNOW,
LIVE IN AN ISOLATED PLACE

00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:27.233
WHERE THE WORLD'S
NOT AROUND, RIGHT.

00:18:27.333 --> 00:18:29.400
BUT IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY
WALKING THROUGH THE WORLD

00:18:29.500 --> 00:18:31.400
AND IT'S COMING AT YOU
ALL THE TIME

00:18:31.500 --> 00:18:36.432
AND THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE LUST
AND ANGER AND RESENTMENT

00:18:36.532 --> 00:18:40.132
AND SELF-PITY AND, YOU KNOW,
ALL OF THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS

00:18:40.232 --> 00:18:44.466
ARE COMING AT YOU
EVERY MOMENT OF THE DAY.

00:18:44.566 --> 00:18:48.432
IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO
MAINTAIN YOUR BALANCE

00:18:48.532 --> 00:18:52.766
AND YOUR FAITH,
AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW,

00:18:52.866 --> 00:18:56.299
I NEED TO STAY IN
CONSCIOUS CONTACT WITH GOD

00:18:56.399 --> 00:18:57.499
EVERY MOMENT OF MY DAY.


00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.299
AND THAT'S WHAT I
ENDEAVORED TO DO.

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I DON'T ALWAYS DO IT PERFECTLY,
BUT I TRY EVERY DAY.

00:19:03.733 --> 00:19:04.899
REBECCA: WELL, I'M SO
PROUD OF YOU.

00:19:04.966 --> 00:19:06.499
THANK YOU FOR
SHARING YOUR STORY.

00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.000
IT'S ENCOURAGING.


00:19:08.100 --> 00:19:11.166
AND I JUST LOVE HEARING
HOW YOUR LIFE IS A TESTAMENT,

00:19:11.266 --> 00:19:12.599
HOW GOD HAS
BEEN THERE FOR YOU.

00:19:12.699 --> 00:19:14.399
HE'S ALWAYS GOING TO
BE THERE FOR YOU.

00:19:14.499 --> 00:19:16.300
AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK
THAT YOU'RE DOING.

00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:17.700
SO MANY OF US ARE
PRAYING FOR YOU.

00:19:17.800 --> 00:19:19.633
AND WE JUST WANT TO SAY
KEEP GOING.

00:19:19.733 --> 00:19:21.266
BECAUSE YOU'RE
DOING THE LORD'S WORK,

00:19:21.366 --> 00:19:22.666
AND WE'RE JUST
SO PROUD OF YOU HERE.

00:19:22.766 --> 00:19:23.499
RFK, JR.:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:24.900
ALWAYS GOOD
TO BE WITH YOU.

00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.033
REBECCA: THANK YOU.