WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.332 REBECCA WEISS: TODAY I SIT DOWN WITH JOSEPH Z, 00:00:01.432 --> 00:00:03.166 A PROPHETIC VOICE TO THE NATIONS. 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:06.333 HE GIVES US INSIGHT INTO THE PROPHETIC 00:00:06.433 --> 00:00:08.332 AND HOW THE WORD OF GOD IS ESSENTIAL 00:00:08.432 --> 00:00:10.300 IN DISCERNING THE VOICE OF GOD. 00:00:12.432 --> 00:00:13.933 HE SHARES HIS PERSONAL TESTIMONY, 00:00:14.033 --> 00:00:15.900 FROM BEING DISOWNED BY HIS FAMILY, 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:17.700 TO WILD ENCOUNTERS WITH THE DEMONIC. 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:19.133 YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO CHECK THIS OUT. 00:00:31.366 --> 00:00:32.233 REBECCA WEISS: HEY, GUYS, WELCOME BACK TO 00:00:32.333 --> 00:00:33.733 THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST. 00:00:33.833 --> 00:00:35.966 I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY BECAUSE I AM JOINED 00:00:36.066 --> 00:00:38.166 WITH JOSEPH Z. 00:00:38.266 --> 00:00:41.133 HE IS A TEACHER, PROPHETIC VOICE, AUTHOR, 00:00:41.233 --> 00:00:43.166 AND THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE SHOW TODAY. 00:00:43.266 --> 00:00:45.566 >> REBECCA, WHAT A THRILL TO BE ON YOUR PODCAST. 00:00:45.666 --> 00:00:49.966 >> I JUST LOVE YOUR SPIRIT, AND YOU CARRY 00:00:50.066 --> 00:00:53.566 SUCH A KNOWLEDGE AND GIFT OF THE WORD. 00:00:53.666 --> 00:00:55.566 AND I THINK NAVIGATING THE PROPHETIC. 00:00:55.666 --> 00:00:57.499 SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT, 00:00:57.599 --> 00:01:00.466 BUT I WANT OUR AUDIENCE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU. 00:01:00.566 --> 00:01:01.533 >> OKAY. 00:01:01.633 --> 00:01:03.033 >> SO SHARE AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE OF YOUR STORY 00:01:03.133 --> 00:01:04.233 AS YOU WANT TO. 00:01:04.333 --> 00:01:07.733 >> WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN I FIRST GOT BORN AGAIN, 00:01:07.833 --> 00:01:10.799 IT WAS AFTER I HAD FIRST HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD. 00:01:10.899 --> 00:01:13.066 I WAS NINE YEARS OLD WHEN I FIRST HEARD 00:01:13.166 --> 00:01:14.699 THE AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD. 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.233 I WAS WALKING IN A FIELD AND I HEARD MY NAME 00:01:17.333 --> 00:01:18.966 SHOUTED OVER THE TREES. 00:01:19.066 --> 00:01:20.333 IT SOUNDED KIND OF LIKE WIND. 00:01:20.433 --> 00:01:21.633 IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS BEING DRAWN. 00:01:21.733 --> 00:01:23.599 YEAH, AND I WAS IN THIS FIELD 00:01:23.699 --> 00:01:25.033 AND I HEARD IT TO THE POINT 00:01:25.133 --> 00:01:27.300 I WENT BACK TO MY HOUSE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:29.100 I WORKED ON KIND OF A SMALL RANCH. 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:29.766 I WENT BACK - 00:01:29.866 --> 00:01:30.433 >> WHERE DID YOU GROW UP? 00:01:30.533 --> 00:01:31.466 >> IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA. 00:01:31.566 --> 00:01:32.332 >> OKAY. 00:01:32.432 --> 00:01:33.899 >> WAY UP IN THE NORTH, YOU KNOW. 00:01:33.999 --> 00:01:35.100 IT'S VERY COLD THERE. 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:36.533 >> YEAH. 00:01:36.633 --> 00:01:38.032 >> BUT I BEGAN TO HAVE THESE ENCOUNTERS 00:01:38.132 --> 00:01:39.699 OVER AND OVER AGAIN, REBECCA, 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:41.999 AND THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD WAS CALLING ME, 00:01:42.099 --> 00:01:43.466 BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. 00:01:43.566 --> 00:01:45.666 AND SO I'D GO HOME AND I'D SAY TO MY FATHER AT THE TIME, 00:01:45.766 --> 00:01:48.400 SAY, HEY, WHAT DID YOU WANT? 00:01:48.500 --> 00:01:49.300 YOU NEEDED ME? 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.366 AND HE SAID, NO, I DID NOT CALL YOU. 00:01:51.466 --> 00:01:53.366 PLEASE GO GET BACK TO WORK, YOU KNOW. 00:01:53.466 --> 00:01:53.933 >> YOU'RE LIKE SAMUEL. 00:01:54.033 --> 00:01:54.966 >> I GUESS SO. 00:01:55.066 --> 00:01:56.800 >> THAT STORY WHERE HE KEPT GOING TO ELI. 00:01:56.900 --> 00:01:58.066 >> I GUESS SO. 00:01:58.166 --> 00:01:59.000 >> SAYING YOU TALKED TO ME, YOU CALLED FOR ME, 00:01:59.100 --> 00:02:00.099 AND HE WAS LIKE, NO. 00:02:00.199 --> 00:02:00.866 >> THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. 00:02:00.966 --> 00:02:02.033 >> BUT YOU'RE - 00:02:02.133 --> 00:02:04.032 DID YOU - WERE YOU RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN HOME? 00:02:04.132 --> 00:02:06.599 >> NO. WELL, 50/50. PART OF IT. 00:02:06.699 --> 00:02:09.000 SO I COME FROM A SPLIT HOUSE, YOU KNOW. 00:02:09.100 --> 00:02:11.399 SO ONE SIDE I COME FROM A LOT OF WEALTH, 00:02:11.499 --> 00:02:14.433 INFLUENCE AND REALLY STRONG LAND OWNERSHIP, 00:02:14.533 --> 00:02:15.999 THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 00:02:16.099 --> 00:02:18.666 AND WHEN THE LORD BEGAN TO CALL ME AND MINISTER TO ME, 00:02:18.766 --> 00:02:20.966 ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY COMPLETELY REJECTED THAT, 00:02:21.066 --> 00:02:22.433 TO THE POINT THAT AT 13 YEARS OLD, 00:02:22.533 --> 00:02:24.000 THEY ASKED ME TO LEAVE MY HOUSE. 00:02:24.100 --> 00:02:25.000 >> OH, MY GOSH. 00:02:25.100 --> 00:02:26.433 >> YEAH, I GOT RADICALLY BORN AGAIN 00:02:26.533 --> 00:02:27.766 BECAUSE I'D HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD. 00:02:27.866 --> 00:02:29.000 I HAD SEEN MIRACLES. 00:02:29.100 --> 00:02:32.233 I'D EXPERIENCED SO MANY THINGS THAT IT WAS UNDENIABLE 00:02:32.333 --> 00:02:33.966 THAT GOD WAS DOING SOMETHING IN MY LIFE. 00:02:34.066 --> 00:02:36.466 SO I CAME AND SHARED THIS WITH ONE SIDE 00:02:36.566 --> 00:02:39.566 OF MY FAMILY, AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T DO THAT HERE. 00:02:39.666 --> 00:02:40.633 YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 00:02:40.733 --> 00:02:42.133 SO THEY SAID, YOU NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD 00:02:42.233 --> 00:02:44.199 ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO NEXT. 00:02:44.299 --> 00:02:46.766 AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS RELIGIOUS TRAIL, 00:02:46.866 --> 00:02:47.933 YOU CANNOT BE HERE. 00:02:48.033 --> 00:02:49.766 WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS. 00:02:49.866 --> 00:02:50.733 >> OH, MY GOODNESS. 00:02:50.833 --> 00:02:53.132 >> AND SO I CHOSE JESUS IN THAT MOMENT 00:02:53.232 --> 00:02:55.132 AND I ENDED UP WITH THE OTHER SIDE OF A FAMILY, 00:02:55.232 --> 00:02:57.966 MY GRANDPARENTS AND ALL THAT, WONDERFUL PEOPLE. 00:02:58.066 --> 00:03:01.066 BUT IT WAS A - IT WAS A SERIOUS DECISION. 00:03:01.166 --> 00:03:03.600 AND PEOPLE ASKED ME, DID YOU HAVE TRAUMA OVER THAT? 00:03:03.700 --> 00:03:06.333 THE ANSWER IS YES AND NO, BUT MAINLY NO, 00:03:06.433 --> 00:03:07.866 BECAUSE I STARTED READING THE WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT 00:03:07.966 --> 00:03:10.266 LIKE ONCE A WEEK AND LISTENING TO IT 00:03:10.366 --> 00:03:12.199 AND TAKING IT IN, AND I BEGAN TO REALIZE 00:03:12.299 --> 00:03:14.099 GOD WAS SPEAKING TO ME. 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:15.066 BUT I'LL TELL YOU, REBECCA, 00:03:15.166 --> 00:03:16.166 I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT. 00:03:16.266 --> 00:03:17.899 I THOUGHT EVERYBODY COULD HEAR THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE 00:03:17.999 --> 00:03:19.433 OR KNOW THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE 00:03:19.533 --> 00:03:20.832 WHEN THEY WERE WITH THEM. 00:03:20.932 --> 00:03:23.933 AND IT WAS REALLY A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, 00:03:24.033 --> 00:03:28.299 IT WAS REALLY A LONG LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME 00:03:28.399 --> 00:03:30.533 BECAUSE I'D BE AROUND PEOPLE AND I ASSUMED 00:03:30.633 --> 00:03:32.299 EVERYBODY COULD KNOW THINGS ABOUT OTHERS 00:03:32.399 --> 00:03:34.266 OR FEEL THINGS ABOUT OTHERS, OR SEE THINGS 00:03:34.366 --> 00:03:35.433 ABOUT PEOPLE'S FUTURE. 00:03:35.533 --> 00:03:36.633 >> BECAUSE THAT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE. 00:03:36.733 --> 00:03:37.566 >> ALL THE TIME. 00:03:37.666 --> 00:03:38.366 >> SO YOU JUST THOUGHT IT WAS NORMAL? 00:03:38.466 --> 00:03:39.899 >> I DID. 00:03:39.999 --> 00:03:42.599 I REMEMBER BEING AT A FUNERAL OF A FAMILY MEMBER 00:03:42.699 --> 00:03:43.866 WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG, 00:03:43.966 --> 00:03:47.066 AND I'M AT THIS FUNERAL, AND THEY STARTED TO READ 00:03:47.166 --> 00:03:50.333 FROM A JOURNAL OF THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS DYING, 00:03:50.433 --> 00:03:51.400 WHO HAD DIED, 00:03:51.500 --> 00:03:52.733 AND THEN NOW WE'RE AT THE FUNERAL. 00:03:52.833 --> 00:03:54.833 SUDDENLY, AS THEY'RE READING FROM THE JOURNAL 00:03:54.933 --> 00:03:56.366 THE LAST THOUGHTS THEY'D HAD, 00:03:56.466 --> 00:03:58.432 I FOUND MYSELF IN THEIR BEDROOM. 00:03:58.532 --> 00:03:59.999 I'M STANDING IN THEIR BEDROOM. 00:04:00.099 --> 00:04:02.233 AND AS I'M THERE, I'M LISTENING TO THIS, 00:04:02.333 --> 00:04:04.199 THIS THING BEING READ, AND SUDDENLY 00:04:04.299 --> 00:04:06.332 I AM WATCHING THEM WRITE IT. 00:04:06.432 --> 00:04:07.866 AND I BURST INTO TEARS BECAUSE I FELT THE FEAR, 00:04:07.966 --> 00:04:09.299 I FELT THE ANXIETY 00:04:09.399 --> 00:04:11.499 THEY WERE GOING THROUGH, THE DEPRESSION. 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:14.100 AND I'M JUST THIS LITTLE KID AND I'M WEEPING 00:04:14.200 --> 00:04:15.133 AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, 00:04:15.233 --> 00:04:16.766 HEY, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, YOU KNOW? 00:04:16.866 --> 00:04:18.099 IT'S A FUNERAL. 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.132 AND I'M LIKE (SOBBING). I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. 00:04:21.232 --> 00:04:22.933 AND I FOUND OUT LATER IT WAS JUST A GIFT 00:04:23.033 --> 00:04:24.533 GOD PLACED IN ME WORKING. 00:04:24.633 --> 00:04:25.633 AND THAT'S FROM AMOS. 00:04:25.733 --> 00:04:27.600 THE BOOK OF AMOS TALKS ABOUT I WAS NOT THE SON 00:04:27.700 --> 00:04:30.100 OF A PROPHET, NOR WAS I A PROPHET. 00:04:30.200 --> 00:04:31.866 BUT THEN THE LORD BEGAN TO SPEAK TO ME. 00:04:31.966 --> 00:04:34.000 AND YOU RECOGNIZE THERE IS A PRECEDENT, 00:04:34.100 --> 00:04:36.566 THAT THERE CAN BE PROPHETIC DNA IN PEOPLE 00:04:36.666 --> 00:04:37.732 THAT GIFTS ARE CARRIED ON. 00:04:37.832 --> 00:04:40.333 LIKE THE GIFT OF FAITH THAT TIMOTHY TALKED ABOUT, 00:04:40.433 --> 00:04:41.966 ABOUT HIS GRANDMOTHER LOIS, 00:04:42.066 --> 00:04:43.533 HIS MOTHER EUNICE, ALL OF THAT. 00:04:43.633 --> 00:04:45.599 AND THERE CAN BE GENERATIONAL THINGS 00:04:45.699 --> 00:04:47.033 THAT ARE PASSED ALONG. 00:04:47.133 --> 00:04:49.366 AND SOMETIMES IT'S IN PEOPLE FROM BIRTH, 00:04:49.466 --> 00:04:51.700 AND THEY'VE JUST GOT TO KIND OF UNPACK IT. 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.633 >> SO I WANT TO REWIND JUST A LITTLE BIT. 00:04:54.733 --> 00:04:55.899 SO YOU WERE OUT IN THE FIELDS 00:04:55.999 --> 00:04:57.233 AND YOU HEARD THE VOICE. 00:04:57.333 --> 00:04:58.999 WHAT WERE A COUPLE OTHER ENCOUNTERS YOU HAD 00:04:59.099 --> 00:05:00.066 AS A YOUNG CHILD? 00:05:00.166 --> 00:05:01.166 >> OH, MY GOODNESS. 00:05:01.266 --> 00:05:03.966 I HAD BOTH LIGHT AND DARK ENCOUNTERS. 00:05:04.066 --> 00:05:04.733 >> REALLY? 00:05:04.833 --> 00:05:06.099 >> YEAH. 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.332 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE HAD TO WORK THROUGH. 00:05:08.432 --> 00:05:11.333 AND I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE INTO CLAIRVOYANCY, 00:05:11.433 --> 00:05:12.900 PSYCHIC BEHAVIOR, ALL THAT. 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:15.466 AND I BEGIN TO TRY TO, IF THEY HAVE A LEGITIMATE GIFT, 00:05:15.566 --> 00:05:17.166 I TRY TO FOSTER THEM OUT OF IT AND SAY, 00:05:17.266 --> 00:05:19.233 HEY, YOU NEED TO REPENT OF THAT WICKEDNESS 00:05:19.333 --> 00:05:20.633 AND YOU NEED TO GET RIGHT WITH GOD. 00:05:20.733 --> 00:05:21.799 >> YEAH. 00:05:21.899 --> 00:05:23.599 >> BUT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL HAVE ENCOUNTERS 00:05:23.699 --> 00:05:27.499 WHERE TWO COMPETING VOICES WILL COME TO THEM. 00:05:27.599 --> 00:05:29.899 AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, I HAD THE ONE VOICE 00:05:29.999 --> 00:05:31.299 WHERE IT WAS THE VOICE OF GOD 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.800 I DETERMINED LATER, BECAUSE IT WAS SO, 00:05:33.900 --> 00:05:34.899 CALLING ME TO RIGHTEOUSNESS, 00:05:34.999 --> 00:05:36.600 CALLING ME BY MY NAME. 00:05:36.700 --> 00:05:38.866 THERE WAS ANOTHER VOICE THAT SHOWED UP 00:05:38.966 --> 00:05:40.966 AND IT'S THIS REAL - 00:05:41.066 --> 00:05:42.499 I USED TO HESITATE TELLING THIS STUFF, 00:05:42.599 --> 00:05:44.066 BUT I FIND TODAY'S WORLD SO CRAZY 00:05:44.166 --> 00:05:45.000 >> YEAH. 00:05:45.100 --> 00:05:45.733 >> YOU START TELLING THESE THINGS, 00:05:45.833 --> 00:05:46.299 YOU CAN HELP PEOPLE. 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:47.333 >> EXACTLY. 00:05:47.433 --> 00:05:48.532 >> BUT I'LL TELL YOU, REBECCA, 00:05:48.632 --> 00:05:51.166 I'M IN THIS FIELD AND A SECOND VOICE CAME OVER TIME 00:05:51.266 --> 00:05:52.399 AND I WAS ON AN ATV, 00:05:52.499 --> 00:05:53.466 AND I'M JUST STANDING IN A FIELD, 00:05:53.566 --> 00:05:54.966 AND I HAD THIS GERMAN SHEPHERD. 00:05:55.066 --> 00:05:56.366 A WONDERFUL GERMAN SHEPHERD NAMED DUKE. 00:05:56.466 --> 00:05:57.732 HE WAS AWESOME. 00:05:57.832 --> 00:05:59.133 AND HE WOULD DEFEND ME, TO LIKE - 00:05:59.233 --> 00:06:01.433 ONE TIME A BULL TRIED TO COME AT ME IN A FIELD, 00:06:01.533 --> 00:06:04.299 AND THIS DOG JUMPED ON HIM AND BIT HIM AND STOPPED IT. 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:05.966 AND THIS BULL WAS GOING TO KILL ME. 00:06:06.066 --> 00:06:07.066 YEAH. 00:06:07.200 --> 00:06:09.300 SO I'M IN THIS FIELD, AND THIS SAME GERMAN SHEPHERD 00:06:09.400 --> 00:06:10.766 AND I ARE TOGETHER. 00:06:10.866 --> 00:06:13.399 AND WHEN THIS HAPPENED, A VOICE CAME, 00:06:13.499 --> 00:06:14.633 AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT VOICE. 00:06:14.733 --> 00:06:15.500 IT WAS NOT WARM. 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:16.433 IT WAS NOT KIND. 00:06:16.533 --> 00:06:17.732 IT WAS NONE OF THOSE THINGS. 00:06:17.832 --> 00:06:20.466 AND IT ALSO WAS CALLING ME AND DRAWING NEAR TO ME. 00:06:20.566 --> 00:06:23.233 AND IT GOT CLOSER AND CLOSER AND CLOSER IN THIS FIELD, 00:06:23.333 --> 00:06:25.532 TO THE POINT MY GERMAN SHEPHERD BRISTLED. 00:06:25.632 --> 00:06:26.566 HIS HAIR BRISTLED. 00:06:26.666 --> 00:06:27.432 >> OH, MY GOODNESS. 00:06:27.532 --> 00:06:28.799 >> AND HE GROWLED IN THE DIRECTION. 00:06:28.899 --> 00:06:31.400 AND THEN IT GOT REALLY CLOSE AND THE DOG RAN. 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:33.032 AND THIS IS A DOG THAT WENT AFTER A BULL. 00:06:33.132 --> 00:06:34.032 NOT AFRAID. 00:06:34.132 --> 00:06:34.966 HE TOOK OFF. 00:06:35.066 --> 00:06:36.000 AND THEN IT GOT UP TO ME 00:06:36.100 --> 00:06:38.366 AND, LIKE, WHISPERED MY NAME TO ME, 00:06:38.466 --> 00:06:40.466 AND IT MADE THE HAIR ON MY ARM STAND UP, RIGHT? 00:06:40.566 --> 00:06:42.933 AND SO I JUMPED ON MY ATV IN TERROR 00:06:43.033 --> 00:06:44.233 AND GOT OUT OF THERE. 00:06:44.333 --> 00:06:46.532 BUT I FOUND THAT TWO THINGS, I BELIEVE THAT WAS 00:06:46.632 --> 00:06:48.799 AN ANGEL OF LIGHT COMING TO CLOAK ITSELF 00:06:48.899 --> 00:06:49.766 AS A FRIEND OR SAYING, 00:06:49.866 --> 00:06:51.566 HEY, I WANT TO KNOW YOU TYPE OF THING. 00:06:51.666 --> 00:06:54.732 AND I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW PSYCHICS GET PULLED INTO 00:06:54.832 --> 00:06:57.099 A DARK SPACE WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:58.433 WHEN THEY'RE YOUNGER. 00:06:58.533 --> 00:07:00.033 A RAW GIFT CAN BE IN THEM 00:07:00.133 --> 00:07:02.632 AND DARKNESS AND LIGHT SEE POTENTIAL IN PEOPLE 00:07:02.732 --> 00:07:04.800 AND BEGIN TO KNOCK ON THAT DOOR EARLY. 00:07:04.900 --> 00:07:06.299 AND THEN THEY'LL TRY TO COME AND SAY, 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.799 HEY, THIS IS THE VOICE OF A DEAD RELATIVE, 00:07:08.899 --> 00:07:10.233 OR THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 00:07:10.333 --> 00:07:11.766 AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER. 00:07:11.866 --> 00:07:13.500 SO THEY OPEN UP TO THAT AND THEN THEY 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:14.966 GO DOWN A DARK PATH. 00:07:15.066 --> 00:07:17.233 >> SO PEOPLE ARE - BECAUSE IT SAYS THE GIFTS OF GOD 00:07:17.333 --> 00:07:18.133 ARE WITHOUT REPROACH. 00:07:18.233 --> 00:07:19.366 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 00:07:19.466 --> 00:07:21.899 >> SO YOU'RE BORN WITH A GIFT TO - WITH A SENSITIVITY 00:07:21.999 --> 00:07:22.966 TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM. 00:07:23.066 --> 00:07:23.900 >> YES. 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:24.833 >> AND, YOU KNOW, GOD IS CALLING US, 00:07:24.933 --> 00:07:26.666 BUT ALSO THE ENEMY IS CALLING. 00:07:26.766 --> 00:07:27.732 >> YES. 00:07:27.832 --> 00:07:30.499 >> AND SO HE - THERE WAS THAT BATTLE OVER YOU. 00:07:30.599 --> 00:07:33.799 AND SO PEOPLE WHO GET CALLED INTO, YOU KNOW, 00:07:33.899 --> 00:07:36.133 SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE PSYCHIC AND CLAIRVOYANT, 00:07:36.233 --> 00:07:37.600 THEY DON'T HAVE A GIFT AND THEY'RE JUST 00:07:37.700 --> 00:07:38.100 SHAMMING PEOPLE. 00:07:38.200 --> 00:07:39.366 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 00:07:39.466 --> 00:07:40.800 >> BUT THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LEGITIMATE GIFT. 00:07:40.900 --> 00:07:41.933 >> YEAH. 00:07:42.033 --> 00:07:45.566 >> BUT WHAT CAN BRING THEM IN IS THAT DECEPTION. 00:07:45.666 --> 00:07:48.000 EVEN PEOPLE I'VE INTERVIEWED WHO WERE IN SATANISM, 00:07:48.100 --> 00:07:48.966 THERE'S LIKE - THEY'RE TOLD, 00:07:49.066 --> 00:07:50.266 OH, THE DEVIL LOVES YOU. 00:07:50.366 --> 00:07:51.232 >> RIGHT. 00:07:51.332 --> 00:07:52.866 >> UNTIL THE DEVIL TURNS ON THEM. 00:07:52.966 --> 00:07:55.733 AND SO THERE'S THAT, MANIPULATION OR THAT, 00:07:55.833 --> 00:07:56.666 THAT DECEPTION. 00:07:56.766 --> 00:07:57.432 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 00:07:57.532 --> 00:07:58.532 >> SO THAT VOICE CAME TO YOU. 00:07:58.632 --> 00:08:01.299 AND SO YOU WERE - THAT'S A LOT TO PROCESS. 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:02.233 >> OH, MAN. YEAH. 00:08:02.333 --> 00:08:03.566 YOU'RE A LITTLE KID, YOU DON'T KNOW. 00:08:03.666 --> 00:08:05.366 AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THE NUMBER ONE THING 00:08:05.466 --> 00:08:06.633 AND PEOPLE ASK ALL THE TIME, 00:08:06.733 --> 00:08:08.933 SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU BEGIN TO SORT ALL THAT OUT, 00:08:09.033 --> 00:08:09.900 LIKE, WHERE DO YOU START AND STOP? 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.433 WELL, THAT'S WHY GOD GAVE US THE WORD 00:08:12.533 --> 00:08:14.433 AND PROPHETIC PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT BAPTIZED 00:08:14.533 --> 00:08:16.000 IN THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD, 00:08:16.100 --> 00:08:18.533 THEY ARE DESTINED FOR ERROR. 00:08:18.633 --> 00:08:20.566 IT'S LIKE YOU'RE DESIGNED FOR ERROR. 00:08:20.666 --> 00:08:23.133 IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE WORD OF GOD IN YOU TO RIGHT - 00:08:23.233 --> 00:08:24.999 I CALL IT RIGHTSIZING YOUR EXPERIENCES, 00:08:25.099 --> 00:08:27.232 RIGHTSIZING THE ENCOUNTERS, 00:08:27.332 --> 00:08:29.099 OR MASTERING THE EXPERIENCE. 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.366 BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU SENSE AND SEE THINGS 00:08:31.466 --> 00:08:33.566 DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ON. 00:08:33.666 --> 00:08:34.799 >> YEAH. 00:08:34.899 --> 00:08:35.766 >> AND THAT'S THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS, SO MANY PEOPLE SAY, 00:08:35.866 --> 00:08:36.700 THUS SAITH THE LORD. 00:08:36.800 --> 00:08:38.333 BUT THE PROBLEM IS, 00:08:38.433 --> 00:08:40.300 IS WE KNOW IN PART, WE PROPHESY IN PART, 00:08:40.400 --> 00:08:43.266 AND ANYBODY THAT SAYS, I GOT IT 100%, 00:08:43.366 --> 00:08:44.132 I KNOW WHAT GOD SHOWED ME, 00:08:44.232 --> 00:08:45.700 THIS IS HOW IT IS, 00:08:45.800 --> 00:08:48.333 THEY'RE IN A SPECTRUM AND IT DOESN'T MEAN 00:08:48.433 --> 00:08:50.299 IT'S GOING TO BE 100% ON EVERY TIME. 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:52.899 SO WITH THE WORD OF GOD, YOU CAN RIGHTSIZE THAT 00:08:52.999 --> 00:08:55.833 AND YOU CAN BE MORE ACCURATE THAN EVER BEFORE, 00:08:55.933 --> 00:08:57.299 BUT YOU ALSO GET TO HAVE THAT HUMILITY 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:58.266 TO KEEP YOU IN CHECK. 00:08:58.366 --> 00:08:59.333 IT'S A BIG DEAL. 00:08:59.433 --> 00:09:00.666 IT REALLY IS, REBECCA. 00:09:00.766 --> 00:09:02.500 >> SO HOW DID YOU FIND JESUS? 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.832 >> OH, MAN, THIS IS GREAT. 00:09:04.932 --> 00:09:06.533 I LOVE THIS STORY. 00:09:06.633 --> 00:09:08.499 I WENT TO A YOUTH CAMP. 00:09:08.599 --> 00:09:09.500 I WAS AT A YOUTH CAMP. 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:11.566 I WAS ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, AS AN EIGHT - 00:09:11.666 --> 00:09:12.999 AT ABOUT 13, I BELIEVE. 00:09:13.099 --> 00:09:13.966 >> DID SOMEONE INVITE YOU? 00:09:14.066 --> 00:09:15.033 >> YEAH. 00:09:15.133 --> 00:09:16.132 WELL, THIS IS GREAT. 00:09:16.232 --> 00:09:18.066 SO MY GRANDPARENTS, WHO ARE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE, 00:09:18.166 --> 00:09:19.200 OKAY, THEY GOT BORN AGAIN. 00:09:19.300 --> 00:09:20.599 THEY CAME OUT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, 00:09:20.699 --> 00:09:21.999 MY MOM WITH THEM. 00:09:22.099 --> 00:09:24.332 ONE DAY THEY KNEW THAT ONE SIDE OF MY FAMILY 00:09:24.432 --> 00:09:25.566 WAS REALLY BRUTAL, 00:09:25.666 --> 00:09:27.099 AND THEY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, 00:09:27.199 --> 00:09:29.433 NEVER LET ME BE AROUND RELIGIOUS THINGS. 00:09:29.533 --> 00:09:31.466 MY GRANDPARENTS SAID, HEY, LET'S GO FOR A DRIVE, 00:09:31.566 --> 00:09:33.099 YOU KNOW, AND LET'S TAKE A RIDE TOGETHER 00:09:33.199 --> 00:09:35.800 AS A FAMILY, AND WE DID THAT. 00:09:35.900 --> 00:09:36.899 AND ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER, 00:09:36.999 --> 00:09:39.099 AND WE FOUND OUT THEY HAD ACTUALLY KIDNAPED US. 00:09:39.199 --> 00:09:41.066 THEY KIDNAPED US. 00:09:41.166 --> 00:09:42.033 >> WAIT. 00:09:42.133 --> 00:09:43.333 ARE YOU SERIOUS? 00:09:43.433 --> 00:09:45.699 >> YEAH, THEY KIDNAPED US AND THEY TOOK US TO A YOUTH CAMP 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.466 AND THEY SAID, YOU KIDS ARE GOING TO KNOW GOD. 00:09:48.566 --> 00:09:50.266 AND SO - 00:09:50.366 --> 00:09:53.266 I DON'T RECOMMEND THIS, BUT I JUST REALIZED IT WORKED. 00:09:53.366 --> 00:09:53.900 >> A LITTLE SCARY. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:54.799 >> IT'S VERY SCARY. 00:09:54.899 --> 00:09:55.732 BUT IT WORKED FOR US. 00:09:55.832 --> 00:09:56.699 >> WAS IT A GOOD YOUTH CAMP THOUGH? 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:57.499 >> IT WAS AWESOME. 00:09:57.599 --> 00:09:58.566 >> OKAY. WELL, THAT'S GOOD. 00:09:58.699 --> 00:09:59.966 >> WE GOT THERE AND THAT IS WHERE I GOT INTRODUCED 00:10:00.066 --> 00:10:01.300 TO THE POWER OF GOD. 00:10:01.400 --> 00:10:02.300 AND THAT'S WHERE THINGS HAPPENED. 00:10:02.400 --> 00:10:03.733 SO IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY 00:10:03.833 --> 00:10:04.899 IS VERY HOSTILE; 00:10:04.999 --> 00:10:06.666 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FAMILY IS LIKE KIDNAPING US 00:10:06.766 --> 00:10:07.966 FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS. 00:10:08.066 --> 00:10:08.899 AND WHEN WE GOT - 00:10:08.999 --> 00:10:09.833 >> SO THERE WAS KIND OF LIKE A FIGHT 00:10:09.933 --> 00:10:11.333 GOING ON OVER YOUR SOULS. 00:10:11.433 --> 00:10:13.099 >> MASSIVELY, REBECCA, YEAH. 00:10:13.199 --> 00:10:14.599 SO WHEN WE GOT THERE - 00:10:14.699 --> 00:10:15.633 >> HENCE THE KIDNAPING, 00:10:15.733 --> 00:10:16.866 >> HENCE THE KIDNAPING. 00:10:16.966 --> 00:10:17.866 >> JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT, 00:10:17.966 --> 00:10:19.466 >> JUST FOR ALL THE PARENTS OUT THERE, 00:10:19.566 --> 00:10:21.400 IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE A RIGHTEOUS CHILD, 00:10:21.500 --> 00:10:22.699 YOU KIDNAP THEM. 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:23.466 I'M JUST KIDDING. DO NOT DO THAT. 00:10:23.566 --> 00:10:24.866 >> DO NOT DO THAT. 00:10:24.966 --> 00:10:27.200 BUT THAT EXPLAINS WHY THEY WERE MAYBE DESPERATE. 00:10:27.300 --> 00:10:28.133 >> THEY WERE. 00:10:28.233 --> 00:10:29.166 BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY HOSTILE 00:10:29.266 --> 00:10:30.133 ON THE OTHER SIDE. 00:10:30.233 --> 00:10:33.233 SO WHEN WE GOT THERE, I SAW MIRACLES. 00:10:33.333 --> 00:10:34.299 LEGITIMATE MIRACLES. 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:35.866 I USED TO HAVE ALLERGIES TO BEE STINGS. 00:10:35.966 --> 00:10:37.000 I GOT PRAYER FOR THAT. 00:10:37.100 --> 00:10:39.500 I FELL ON THE FLOOR, WOKE BACK UP, 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:41.299 AND I GOT STUNG SOMETIME LATER, 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.332 RIGHT IN THE THROAT, AND NOTHING HAPPENED. 00:10:43.432 --> 00:10:44.266 >> WOW. 00:10:44.366 --> 00:10:46.300 >> I HAD A BROTHER - I HAVE A BROTHER. 00:10:46.400 --> 00:10:47.699 ONE OF HIS ANKLES WAS TURNED. 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:49.499 HIS LEG WAS SHORTER THAN THE OTHER AND HE WAS GOING 00:10:49.599 --> 00:10:50.933 TO THERAPY FOR IT. 00:10:51.033 --> 00:10:52.599 HE GOT PRAYER AND I WATCHED HIS ANKLE 00:10:52.699 --> 00:10:54.466 STRAIGHTEN OUT AND HIS LEG GREW. 00:10:54.566 --> 00:10:55.499 >> WOW. 00:10:55.599 --> 00:10:57.632 >> AND I SAW THIS AND THIS MINISTER RELEASED 00:10:57.732 --> 00:10:58.833 THIS POWER. 00:10:58.933 --> 00:11:01.666 AND WHEN IT HAPPENED, THE POWER OF GOD JUST SO HIT ME 00:11:01.766 --> 00:11:03.199 THAT I COULDN'T DENY WHAT I HAD SEEN, 00:11:03.299 --> 00:11:04.666 WHAT I'D EXPERIENCED. 00:11:04.766 --> 00:11:06.766 AND SO I COMPLETELY WENT ALL IN WITH THE LORD. 00:11:06.866 --> 00:11:08.166 I GAVE MY LIFE TO HIM. 00:11:08.266 --> 00:11:10.799 ALL OF THAT THAT LED TO THAT 13-YEAR-OLD DECISION. 00:11:10.899 --> 00:11:12.366 >> AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER SIDE 00:11:12.466 --> 00:11:14.533 OF YOUR FAMILY SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHOOSE GOD, 00:11:14.633 --> 00:11:16.333 THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU? 00:11:16.433 --> 00:11:17.666 >> THAT'S CORRECT. YEP. 00:11:17.766 --> 00:11:20.233 >> AND SO YOU WENT TO LIVE WITH THE OTHER SIDE, 00:11:20.333 --> 00:11:21.699 WITH THE GRANDPARENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT? 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:22.733 >> THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. 00:11:22.833 --> 00:11:25.166 >> MAN, WHEN YOU WERE 13, WAS IT JUST YOU? 00:11:25.266 --> 00:11:26.066 >> IT WAS JUST ME. 00:11:26.166 --> 00:11:26.966 I HAD TWO SIBLINGS. 00:11:27.066 --> 00:11:29.599 THEY STAYED BEHIND, BUT I, I WENT ON 00:11:29.699 --> 00:11:30.899 AND I SERVED THE LORD. 00:11:30.999 --> 00:11:33.366 >> SO YOU REALLY HAD TO MAKE A REAL SACRIFICE 00:11:33.466 --> 00:11:34.600 AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE. 00:11:34.700 --> 00:11:35.599 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 00:11:35.699 --> 00:11:37.033 WE GAVE UP A LOT. 00:11:37.133 --> 00:11:38.300 AND I WAS TOLD, IF YOU DO THIS, 00:11:38.400 --> 00:11:39.966 THERE WILL BE NO INHERITANCE FOR YOU. 00:11:40.066 --> 00:11:40.700 AT A YOUNG AGE, 00:11:40.800 --> 00:11:41.666 THEY BROKE IT DOWN. 00:11:41.766 --> 00:11:44.199 I SAID, I CHOOSE JESUS. 00:11:44.299 --> 00:11:45.399 AND SO IT WAS STRONG. 00:11:45.499 --> 00:11:46.900 YOU KNOW, I'M SO - 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.100 REBECCA, LISTEN, I'M SO IMPRESSED 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:50.900 BY WHAT GOD'S DOING IN YOUR LIFE, 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.666 AND THIS MINISTRY AND THE WAY THAT 00:11:52.766 --> 00:11:53.999 YOU ARE BUILDING THIS. 00:11:54.099 --> 00:11:57.700 I BELIEVE THIS PODCAST YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO BECOME 00:11:57.800 --> 00:11:59.633 A TREMENDOUS SOURCE OF LIGHT FOR MANY PEOPLE, 00:11:59.733 --> 00:12:02.066 ESPECIALLY IN THE COMING YEAR AND THE COMING SEASON. 00:12:02.166 --> 00:12:03.633 AS PEOPLE GET MORE AND MORE DESPERATE, 00:12:03.733 --> 00:12:05.600 I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ANSWERS AND HOPE 00:12:05.700 --> 00:12:08.166 AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL FOR MANY PEOPLE. 00:12:08.266 --> 00:12:10.533 MANY EARS, MANY VOICES, MANY MOMS. 00:12:10.633 --> 00:12:11.833 AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 00:12:11.933 --> 00:12:15.033 NOT ONLY CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS, BUT TOPICS THAT BRING HOPE, 00:12:15.133 --> 00:12:17.400 PEACE AND CLARITY TO PEOPLE. 00:12:17.500 --> 00:12:19.433 THIS IS AN - YOU CAN FEEL THE PRESENCE OF GOD 00:12:19.533 --> 00:12:20.899 ON THIS PODCAST. 00:12:20.999 --> 00:12:22.566 WELL DONE, WOMAN OF GOD. 00:12:22.666 --> 00:12:23.566 THIS IS AWESOME. 00:12:23.666 --> 00:12:24.566 >> THANK YOU. 00:12:24.666 --> 00:12:27.166 I RECEIVE THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR MINISTRY 00:12:27.266 --> 00:12:29.732 AND YOU BEING HERE, AND THAT IS OUR HOPE 00:12:29.832 --> 00:12:31.266 FOR THIS PODCAST. 00:12:31.366 --> 00:12:33.499 SO I'M BELIEVING THAT. 00:12:33.599 --> 00:12:38.033 SO YOU GROW UP, AND HOW DID YOU - 00:12:38.133 --> 00:12:40.099 WERE YOU IN A CHURCH THAT HELPED STEWARD 00:12:40.199 --> 00:12:41.432 YOUR PROPHETIC GIFTING, 00:12:41.532 --> 00:12:44.633 OR HOW DID THAT - HOW DID YOU NAVIGATE THAT JOURNEY? 00:12:44.733 --> 00:12:47.199 WAS YOUR HOME SPIRIT FILLED THAT YOU GREW UP IN? 00:12:47.299 --> 00:12:48.899 DID THEY UNDERSTAND YOUR GIFTING 00:12:48.999 --> 00:12:50.166 AND YOU, LIKE WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? 00:12:50.266 --> 00:12:52.266 >> I WOULD SAY YES AND NO. 00:12:52.366 --> 00:12:53.532 YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ANYTHING. 00:12:53.632 --> 00:12:54.966 IT'S A MIXED BAG, OF COURSE, 00:12:55.066 --> 00:12:57.533 BUT I DID DO A LOT OF TRAVELING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 00:12:57.633 --> 00:12:59.700 I ENDED UP WITH A COUNTRY WESTERN SINGER, 00:12:59.800 --> 00:13:00.933 OF ALL THINGS. 00:13:01.033 --> 00:13:03.833 HE USED TO PLAY WITH LIKE OR WORK WITH JOHNNY CASH, 00:13:03.933 --> 00:13:04.599 WAYLON JENNINGS. 00:13:04.699 --> 00:13:05.833 >> WAIT, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? 00:13:05.933 --> 00:13:10.032 >> I KNOW, SO THAT SAME CAMP THAT I WAS AT HAD A, 00:13:10.132 --> 00:13:11.666 HAD A YOUTH MINISTRY THERE, 00:13:11.766 --> 00:13:13.932 AND ONE OF THEM WAS A COUNTRY WESTERN, 00:13:14.032 --> 00:13:16.333 OLD COUNTRY SINGER, YOU KNOW, GOT BORN AGAIN. 00:13:16.433 --> 00:13:19.032 AND SO DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO HELPING YOUNG PEOPLE 00:13:19.132 --> 00:13:20.932 JUST HELPING THEM MATURE IN GOD. 00:13:21.032 --> 00:13:24.200 AND SO WE'D GO MINISTER AT BOYS RANCHES, 00:13:24.300 --> 00:13:25.799 WHERE TROUBLED YOUTH WERE. 00:13:25.899 --> 00:13:28.400 I'D GO MINISTER ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AT 13, 14, 15. 00:13:28.500 --> 00:13:29.200 >> ARE YOU SERIOUS? 00:13:29.300 --> 00:13:30.932 SO YOU STARTED REALLY YOUNG. 00:13:31.032 --> 00:13:32.133 >> RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YEAH. 00:13:32.233 --> 00:13:33.832 >> HOW DID YOU KNOW - 00:13:33.932 --> 00:13:35.699 HOW DID YOU KNOW TO DO THAT? 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:37.933 >> I JUST GOT INVITED TO GO, LIKE - 00:13:38.033 --> 00:13:39.033 >> SO GOD JUST STARTED OPENING DOORS? 00:13:39.133 --> 00:13:40.099 >> YEAH. 00:13:40.199 --> 00:13:41.966 >> SO YOU GOT SAVED, FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT, 00:13:42.066 --> 00:13:42.666 I'M ASSUMING. 00:13:42.766 --> 00:13:43.566 >> YES. 00:13:43.666 --> 00:13:45.500 >> AND WHAT WAS THAT LIKE FOR YOU? 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:46.899 DID YOU GET THAT AT THAT CAMP? 00:13:46.999 --> 00:13:48.899 >> I DID, YEAH, I GOT THAT AT THE CAMP, REBECCA. 00:13:48.999 --> 00:13:51.300 AND I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN WE STARTED MINISTERING ALL OVER, 00:13:51.400 --> 00:13:53.499 I RAN INTO EVERYTHING FROM SATANISTS TO, 00:13:53.599 --> 00:13:55.066 YOU KNOW, WITCHCRAFT, TO STUFF THAT WOULD 00:13:55.166 --> 00:13:57.400 CAST OUT DEMONS. 00:13:57.500 --> 00:13:59.700 >> WAIT, HOW DID YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO DO THAT? 00:13:59.800 --> 00:14:01.366 >> I DIDN'T KNOW, I JUST READ THE BIBLE. 00:14:01.466 --> 00:14:02.299 I SAID, I SEE IT IN THE BIBLE, 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:03.699 SO WE GOT TO CAST THIS STUFF OUT. 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:04.966 >> OH, SO YOU WERE, LIKE, READING IT 00:14:05.066 --> 00:14:06.533 AND THEN APPLYING IT IN YOUR REAL LIFE? 00:14:06.633 --> 00:14:07.800 >> ABSOLUTELY. 00:14:07.900 --> 00:14:09.232 AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE 00:14:09.332 --> 00:14:10.733 SIGNIFICANT MOMENTS WHEN THINGS STARTED TO 00:14:10.833 --> 00:14:12.533 REALLY TURN FOR ME, 00:14:12.633 --> 00:14:14.366 AND I'VE HAD - ANOTHER FRIEND WOULD 00:14:14.466 --> 00:14:15.766 TRAVEL WITH ME AT THAT AGE, 00:14:15.866 --> 00:14:17.232 AND HE'S STILL WITH ME IN MINISTRY TODAY. 00:14:17.332 --> 00:14:19.366 WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER LIKE 33 YEARS OR SOMETHING. 00:14:19.466 --> 00:14:20.433 >> I LOVE THAT. 00:14:20.533 --> 00:14:21.566 >> YEAH, IT'S AWESOME. 00:14:21.666 --> 00:14:24.466 BUT I'LL TELL YOU, WE AT THAT TIME, 00:14:24.566 --> 00:14:26.099 JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT, 00:14:26.199 --> 00:14:27.866 I WAS INSTRUCTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT 00:14:27.966 --> 00:14:31.333 TO GO TO THE CEMETERY WHERE MY GRANDFATHER WAS BURIED 00:14:31.433 --> 00:14:33.499 ON THE DARK SIDE OF THINGS. 00:14:33.599 --> 00:14:36.166 I WENT TO THE CEMETERY AND AS I WALKED THERE, 00:14:36.266 --> 00:14:37.599 REBECCA, IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. 00:14:37.699 --> 00:14:39.099 IT WAS DARK. IT WAS GLOOMY. 00:14:39.199 --> 00:14:40.833 NO LIGHTS AT THE TIME. 00:14:40.933 --> 00:14:42.399 THERE WAS LIKE A MOON THROUGH THE TREES. 00:14:42.499 --> 00:14:45.699 IT'S A LITTLE COUNTRY, CREEPY CEMETERY. 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.833 AND I GO WALKING OUT INTO THESE, THESE TOMBS. 00:14:48.933 --> 00:14:51.699 AND BECAUSE I WAS FINDING MY GRANDFATHER'S GRAVE. 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:53.032 AND I WALKED THERE, AND WHEN I DID, 00:14:53.132 --> 00:14:54.732 I STOOD OVER IT AND I HAD THE BOLDNESS 00:14:54.832 --> 00:14:55.800 OF THE HOLY SPIRIT COME ON ME 00:14:55.900 --> 00:14:57.066 AND I POINTED AT THE GRAVE, 00:14:57.166 --> 00:14:59.433 NOT IN JUDGMENT OF HIM, BUT IN JUDGMENT OF THE SPIRITS 00:14:59.533 --> 00:15:01.566 THAT HAD COME AFTER MY FAMILY. 00:15:01.666 --> 00:15:03.666 SO I POINTED AT IT, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? 00:15:03.766 --> 00:15:05.366 IT STOPS WITH ME. 00:15:05.466 --> 00:15:06.933 ALL OF IT STOPS WITH ME. 00:15:07.033 --> 00:15:09.299 AND I START A NEW LINEAGE IN JESUS' NAME. 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.199 I DRAW A LINE. AS FOR ME, AND MY HOUSE, 00:15:11.299 --> 00:15:12.133 WE'LL SERVE THE LORD. 00:15:12.233 --> 00:15:14.399 AND I CUT OFF AND RENOUNCED EVERYTHING 00:15:14.499 --> 00:15:16.833 THAT OUR FAMILY HAD STOOD FOR UP TO THAT POINT. 00:15:16.933 --> 00:15:18.666 ON ONE SIDE OF THINGS, AND IT WAS NOT A - 00:15:18.766 --> 00:15:20.732 NOT A GOOD HERITAGE. 00:15:20.832 --> 00:15:23.699 AND FROM THAT POINT, I LEFT AND I FELT THE POWER OF GOD. 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:25.466 A WEEK LATER I GO TO THIS CHURCH, 00:15:25.566 --> 00:15:26.899 AND IT'S KIND OF A SEEKER FRIENDLY CHURCH. 00:15:26.999 --> 00:15:28.533 YOU KNOW, THEY DO PUPPET SHOWS TO GET PEOPLE BORN AGAIN, 00:15:28.633 --> 00:15:29.900 WHICH IS GREAT, RIGHT? 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.866 BUT I GO INTO THIS CHURCH AND AS I'M THERE, 00:15:31.966 --> 00:15:35.233 I BEGAN TO WALK IN AND I'VE BEEN SO 00:15:35.333 --> 00:15:36.366 IN THE WORD OF GOD, 00:15:36.466 --> 00:15:38.632 SO SPENDING TIME, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN I WALK IN 00:15:38.732 --> 00:15:40.900 AND A LADY SCREAMS OUT FROM ACROSS THE ROOM, 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.499 JUST SHRIEKS AND SAYS, THE VOICES. 00:15:43.599 --> 00:15:46.833 REBECCA, THE VOICES TOLD ME NOT TO TALK TO YOU. 00:15:46.933 --> 00:15:48.799 THE VOICES SAID YOU WERE COMING. 00:15:48.899 --> 00:15:51.033 AND I'M LIKE, I GOT A MESSAGE FOR THE VOICES. 00:15:51.133 --> 00:15:52.966 I'M LIKE 16 AT THIS TIME. 00:15:53.066 --> 00:15:54.466 >> WAIT. AT A SEEKER FRIENDLY CHURCH? 00:15:54.566 --> 00:15:55.232 >> YEAH. 00:15:55.332 --> 00:15:56.100 >> I JUST CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE. 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:57.499 WHAT WERE THE STAFF DOING? 00:15:57.599 --> 00:15:58.666 >> THE PUPPETS WENT FASTER. 00:15:58.766 --> 00:15:59.166 NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 00:15:59.266 --> 00:16:00.433 I DON'T KNOW. 00:16:00.533 --> 00:16:01.699 WAS THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF WORSHIP, 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.566 OR WHEN WAS THIS IN THE SERVICE? 00:16:03.666 --> 00:16:05.299 >> IT WAS RIGHT AFTER WORSHIP, 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:06.933 AND IT WAS DURING A TIME WHEN THERE WAS LIKE 00:16:07.033 --> 00:16:08.166 A BREAK IN MOMENTS - 00:16:08.266 --> 00:16:09.100 >> WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF TRANSITIONING? 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:10.700 >> YEAH. 00:16:10.800 --> 00:16:13.032 >> OH, MY GOSH. DID EVERYONE JUST STARE? 00:16:13.132 --> 00:16:14.033 >> YES. 00:16:14.133 --> 00:16:15.833 >> SO IT WAS LIKE A HOLY GHOST SHOWDOWN. 00:16:15.933 --> 00:16:16.966 >> IT WAS. 00:16:17.066 --> 00:16:19.600 >> SO SHE SAID THE - SORRY. DO, DO, DO. 00:16:19.700 --> 00:16:20.433 >> YEAH, IT WAS. 00:16:20.566 --> 00:16:21.433 >> TALK ABOUT THE COUNTRY CEMETERY. 00:16:21.533 --> 00:16:22.533 >> DUN, DUN, DUN, YEAH. 00:16:22.633 --> 00:16:25.699 AND THEN I HAD A BANJO PLAYING FROM THE COUNTRY. 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:26.900 >> THAT'S JUST FUNNY. 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:28.533 OKAY. SO Y'ALL - 00:16:28.633 --> 00:16:31.333 SO SHE SAYS THE VOICES TOLD ME NOT TO TALK TO YOU. 00:16:31.433 --> 00:16:32.933 >> THAT'S WHAT SHE SCREAMED, YEAH. 00:16:33.033 --> 00:16:34.166 >> SO WOULD DID YOU SAY? 00:16:34.266 --> 00:16:35.133 >> I SAID, HEY, 00:16:35.233 --> 00:16:36.700 I GOT A MESSAGE FOR THE VOICES, 00:16:36.800 --> 00:16:38.300 BECAUSE I'M ALL FULL OF THE WORD OF GOD. 00:16:38.400 --> 00:16:39.233 I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER. 00:16:39.333 --> 00:16:40.833 SO I JUST STARTED MOUTHING OFF TO IT. 00:16:40.933 --> 00:16:43.832 I JUST SAID, YOU CAN SHUT UP IN JESUS' NAME. 00:16:43.932 --> 00:16:45.999 YOU KNOW, BASICALLY I BIND YOU. 00:16:46.099 --> 00:16:48.333 THE LADY DROPS IN THE MEETING, BAM! 00:16:48.433 --> 00:16:51.199 PEOPLE WENT INTO A PANIC BECAUSE IT'S SEEKER FRIENDLY. 00:16:51.299 --> 00:16:52.032 THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 00:16:52.132 --> 00:16:53.266 >> NO. YEAH. 00:16:53.366 --> 00:16:54.299 >> SO THEY STARTED JUMPING ON HER AND HOLDING HER DOWN 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:56.333 BECAUSE SHE'S WRITHING AND FULL OF DEMONS, 00:16:56.433 --> 00:16:58.199 AND THEY'RE TRYING TO HOLD HER DOWN. 00:16:58.299 --> 00:16:59.866 AND SO WHEN I WENT OVER, I SAID, 00:16:59.966 --> 00:17:01.232 PLEASE LEAVE HER ALONE. 00:17:01.332 --> 00:17:02.732 YOU KNOW, LET ME PRAY FOR THIS PERSON. 00:17:02.832 --> 00:17:05.666 AND I GET OVER TO HER AND I COME DOWN TO SAY SOME THINGS, 00:17:05.766 --> 00:17:07.699 AND THESE TWO VOICES COME OUT OF HER. 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:09.299 >> OH, GOSH. DID THEY SOUND DIFFERENT 00:17:09.399 --> 00:17:10.799 THAN HER VOICE, OR WAS IT HER TALKING? 00:17:10.899 --> 00:17:11.932 >> VERY DIFFERENT, YEAH. 00:17:12.032 --> 00:17:12.699 >> OH, LORD. 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:14.100 >> AND THEY NAMED THEMSELVES, 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:15.800 WHICH I DON'T LIKE GIVING GLORY TO THAT STUFF, 00:17:15.900 --> 00:17:17.566 BUT THEY NAMED THEMSELVES AND SAID 00:17:17.666 --> 00:17:20.666 WE WERE THERE LAST WEEK AT THE CEMETERY 00:17:20.766 --> 00:17:21.933 WHEN YOU WERE PRAYING. 00:17:22.033 --> 00:17:23.099 WE WERE THERE. 00:17:23.199 --> 00:17:25.566 WE WERE WATCHING YOU, AND WE'VE BEEN WATCHING YOU. 00:17:25.666 --> 00:17:28.600 AND I'LL TELL YOU, THAT GOT MY ATTENTION. 00:17:28.700 --> 00:17:29.500 >> OH, MY GOODNESS. 00:17:29.600 --> 00:17:31.466 DID YOU CAST THEM OUT OF THE LADY? 00:17:31.566 --> 00:17:32.532 >> YES, I DID. 00:17:32.632 --> 00:17:33.933 >> WAS SHE SAVED? 00:17:34.033 --> 00:17:36.533 >> SO SHE RAN OUT OF THE CHURCH AFTER THAT. 00:17:36.633 --> 00:17:38.300 A WEEK LATER, OR A FEW DAYS LATER, 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:41.599 SHE SHOWED UP WITH HER WARLOCK AT MY HOUSE. 00:17:41.699 --> 00:17:42.899 >> OH, WAS SHE A WITCH? 00:17:42.999 --> 00:17:45.333 >> YEAH, SHE WAS A WITCH HIDING IN THE CHURCH, 00:17:45.433 --> 00:17:47.199 WHICH HAPPENS A LOT. 00:17:47.299 --> 00:17:49.532 >> OKAY. THAT DOES HAPPEN BECAUSE I'VE INTERVIEWED - 00:17:49.632 --> 00:17:51.333 I INTERVIEWED SOMEONE WHO WAS A WITCH, 00:17:51.433 --> 00:17:53.799 AND SHE SAID THAT THEY USED TO DO THAT ON PURPOSE. 00:17:53.899 --> 00:17:54.766 >> YES. 00:17:54.866 --> 00:17:55.966 >> SO THAT IS A THING, IT'S NOT CRAZY. 00:17:56.066 --> 00:17:56.633 >> NO. 00:17:56.733 --> 00:17:57.966 >> SO SHE WAS A WITCH 00:17:58.066 --> 00:18:01.433 SO SHE WAS ON ASSIGNMENT PROBABLY TO FIND YOU. 00:18:01.533 --> 00:18:03.166 >> WELL, REBECCA, IT REMINDS ME OF THIS. 00:18:03.266 --> 00:18:07.033 THIS STORY OF A GUY WHO WAS IN A SMALL GROUP 00:18:07.133 --> 00:18:08.433 WHERE THEY WERE ALL SITTING TOGETHER, 00:18:08.533 --> 00:18:09.499 AND HE THOUGHT HE WAS COMING TOGETHER 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:11.166 FOR A FELLOWSHIP GROUP, AND HE'S THERE. 00:18:11.266 --> 00:18:12.866 AND A LEADER WAS IN THE GROUP, 00:18:12.966 --> 00:18:14.132 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE SAID, LET'S HOLD HANDS, 00:18:14.232 --> 00:18:14.900 LET'S HAVE A S !ANCE. 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:15.866 LET'S DO THIS STUFF. 00:18:15.966 --> 00:18:17.366 HE REALIZED, I SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS GROUP, 00:18:17.466 --> 00:18:18.866 AND HE STARTED TO GO. 00:18:18.966 --> 00:18:20.566 AND THIS MAN, HE REALIZED, WAS A MEDIUM, 00:18:20.666 --> 00:18:21.866 AND HE WAS TRYING TO RUN THIS GROUP. 00:18:21.966 --> 00:18:23.300 AND HE GETS TO THE DOOR AND HE SAYS, 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:24.333 LET ME OUT OF HERE. 00:18:24.433 --> 00:18:27.366 THE MAN BEGAN TO LAUGH AND LAUGH AND LAUGH. 00:18:27.466 --> 00:18:28.533 AND SO I ASKED THE QUESTION, 00:18:28.633 --> 00:18:29.466 WELL, WHAT DID YOU DO? 00:18:29.566 --> 00:18:30.699 HE SAID, I PUNCHED HIM IN THE FACE 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:32.232 AND I RAN OUT THE DOOR, 00:18:32.332 --> 00:18:33.299 AND I SAID, WHY DID YOU DO THAT? 00:18:33.399 --> 00:18:35.099 HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHEN IN DOUBT, 00:18:35.199 --> 00:18:36.933 STRIKE A HAPPY MEDIUM. 00:18:37.033 --> 00:18:37.999 >> OH, MY GOD. 00:18:38.099 --> 00:18:39.233 >> ANYWAY, SORRY. 00:18:39.333 --> 00:18:41.366 I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD MOMENT, BUT, ANYWAYS... 00:18:41.466 --> 00:18:43.799 >> SO THIS LADY WAS A WITCH? 00:18:43.899 --> 00:18:46.133 >> YES, A WITCH. AND HER AND HER WARLOCK 00:18:46.233 --> 00:18:49.333 SHOW UP AT MY PROPERTY. 00:18:49.433 --> 00:18:50.366 AND THEY CAME TO THE PROPERTY. 00:18:50.466 --> 00:18:51.499 >> THEY FOUND WHERE YOU LIVE? 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:55.166 >> YEAH. WELL, WE'RE HAVING A CHURCH BONFIRE. 00:18:55.266 --> 00:18:58.699 MY MOTHER HAD PUT ON A GATHERING FOR THE CHURCH. 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:00.499 >> WAS THIS THE SAME CHURCH THAT YOU HAD GONE TO? 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:01.466 >> THAT'S CORRECT. 00:19:01.566 --> 00:19:02.532 >> OKAY. OKAY. 00:19:02.632 --> 00:19:04.633 SO SHE SHOWS UP A WEEK LATER WITH A WARLOCK. 00:19:04.733 --> 00:19:05.800 >> WITH HER WARLOCK. 00:19:05.900 --> 00:19:07.100 >> SO WHAT HAPPENS THERE? 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:08.533 >> SO I DON'T KNOW. 00:19:08.633 --> 00:19:09.400 I MEAN, I IT'S A LITTLE GRAPHIC. 00:19:09.500 --> 00:19:10.432 IS THAT OKAY OR SHOULD I - 00:19:10.532 --> 00:19:11.733 >> YES. YES. 00:19:11.833 --> 00:19:13.433 ON THIS PLATFORM, IT'S OKAY. 00:19:13.533 --> 00:19:14.466 MAYBE NOT OTHER PLATFORMS, 00:19:14.566 --> 00:19:15.466 BUT YOU CAN TELL IT HERE. 00:19:15.566 --> 00:19:17.766 >> IN A WORLD OF DARKNESS, REBECCA WEISS. 00:19:17.866 --> 00:19:21.999 OKAY, SO WE'RE THERE, AND THIS LADY SHOWS UP 00:19:22.099 --> 00:19:23.132 AND I'M LIKE, HEY. 00:19:23.232 --> 00:19:25.533 AND SHE SHOWS UP WITH THIS GUY IN A LONG TRENCH COAT 00:19:25.633 --> 00:19:27.066 DOING ALL THIS STUFF. 00:19:27.166 --> 00:19:28.499 AND THEY BEGIN TO COME THERE AND SAY, 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:30.866 WE'RE HERE TO BASICALLY CONFRONT YOU. 00:19:30.966 --> 00:19:32.666 AND I SAID, OKAY. 00:19:32.766 --> 00:19:34.733 AND IT'S A LITTLE GROSS, A LITTLE - 00:19:34.833 --> 00:19:35.833 A LITTLE CRASS AND VULGAR. 00:19:35.933 --> 00:19:39.833 BUT THEY BEGIN TO BITE THEIR ARMS AND DRAW BLOOD. 00:19:39.933 --> 00:19:40.733 AND THEY WERE TRYING TO GET BLOOD, 00:19:40.833 --> 00:19:42.266 AND THEY WERE TRYING TO DRINK BLOOD, 00:19:42.366 --> 00:19:43.800 AND THEY WERE DOING THESE THINGS TO INTIMIDATE 00:19:43.900 --> 00:19:45.000 AND WHATEVER. 00:19:45.100 --> 00:19:46.966 AND THEY WERE TRYING TO REALLY GET THIS THING GOING. 00:19:47.066 --> 00:19:49.766 >> 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW THAT THE OCCULT AND WITCHCRAFT, 00:19:49.866 --> 00:19:50.833 THAT'S HOW IT ALL OPERATES. 00:19:50.933 --> 00:19:52.100 >> YEAH. 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:53.100 SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING IT. 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.466 AND I WON'T GO INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL 00:19:54.566 --> 00:19:55.533 BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DISGUSTING. 00:19:55.633 --> 00:19:57.766 >> WERE THE OTHER CHURCHGOERS AT THE BONFIRE, 00:19:57.866 --> 00:19:59.433 OR WERE YOU ALL LIKE OFF TO THE SIDE? 00:19:59.533 --> 00:20:00.799 >> I MET THEM FIRST. 00:20:00.899 --> 00:20:03.000 I RAN INTO THEM AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE FREAKED OUT BY THEM. 00:20:03.100 --> 00:20:04.400 AND THEN I MET THEM OUTSIDE. 00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:05.599 I GOT THEM OUT OF OUR HOUSE. 00:20:05.699 --> 00:20:07.266 I SAID, YOU COME OUTSIDE AND, YOU KNOW, 00:20:07.366 --> 00:20:08.633 SO I'M STILL YOUNG IN THE LORD. 00:20:08.733 --> 00:20:09.466 I HAD A LOT OF - 00:20:09.566 --> 00:20:11.133 >> WERE YOU 16? 00:20:11.233 --> 00:20:12.633 >> I MUST HAVE BEEN 16, 17, PROBABLY 16. 00:20:12.733 --> 00:20:14.033 >> DANG, YOU WERE YOUNG. 00:20:14.133 --> 00:20:16.333 >> I WAS, YEAH. 00:20:16.433 --> 00:20:18.733 AND, AS THEY WERE TALKING TO ME, 00:20:18.833 --> 00:20:20.699 THEY BEGAN TO MAKE THREATENING THINGS LIKE, 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:21.333 YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CURSE YOU, 00:20:21.433 --> 00:20:22.599 WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. 00:20:22.699 --> 00:20:23.866 AND, REBECCA, I WISH I COULD HAVE SAID 00:20:23.966 --> 00:20:26.799 I WAS FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST AND FULL OF JOY, 00:20:26.899 --> 00:20:28.533 BUT I JUST TOLD THIS GUY, I SAID, 00:20:28.633 --> 00:20:29.832 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO? 00:20:29.932 --> 00:20:31.766 I'M GOING TO KNOCK YOU OUT, BRO. 00:20:31.866 --> 00:20:33.866 I SAID, I'M GOING TO PUNCH YOU SO HARD. 00:20:33.966 --> 00:20:34.799 I SAID, I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU RIGHT TO YOUR KNEES 00:20:34.899 --> 00:20:36.732 IF YOU DON'T GET OFF MY PROPERTY. 00:20:36.832 --> 00:20:38.233 AND THAT'S HOW I GOT RID OF THEM. 00:20:38.333 --> 00:20:39.232 >> OH, DID THEY EVER COME BACK? 00:20:39.332 --> 00:20:40.599 >> NO. 00:20:40.699 --> 00:20:41.999 >> OH MY GOODNESS, THAT'S FUNNY. 00:20:42.099 --> 00:20:43.633 >> NOW, I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT 00:20:43.733 --> 00:20:44.599 THAT'S HOW YOU HANDLE THOSE THINGS, 00:20:44.699 --> 00:20:46.266 BUT ME BEING YOUNG AND REALLY DUMB, 00:20:46.366 --> 00:20:47.266 THAT'S HOW I HANDLED IT. 00:20:47.366 --> 00:20:48.299 >> WELL I MEAN, YOU WERE LIKE 16 OR 17. 00:20:48.399 --> 00:20:52.333 >> THAT'S RIGHT. SUPER MACHO. 00:20:52.433 --> 00:20:54.932 >> WHEN YOU WENT TO THE CEMETERY AND YOU CUT OFF, 00:20:55.032 --> 00:20:57.932 I BELIEVE IN CUTTING THINGS, 00:20:58.032 --> 00:20:59.833 BEING LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT 00:20:59.933 --> 00:21:01.933 AND CUTTING GENERATIONAL INIQUITY. 00:21:02.033 --> 00:21:03.532 AND, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE SPIRITS, 00:21:03.632 --> 00:21:05.799 EVEN FAMILIAR SPIRITS THAT CAN PASS THEMSELVES DOWN, 00:21:05.899 --> 00:21:07.833 THAT GO FROM FAMILY MEMBER TO FAMILY MEMBER. 00:21:07.933 --> 00:21:09.732 THAT'S ALL IN THE BIBLE. 00:21:09.832 --> 00:21:12.566 AND SO I THINK MY QUESTION IS, 00:21:12.666 --> 00:21:15.166 SO THE HOLY SPIRIT JUST LED YOU 00:21:15.266 --> 00:21:16.799 TO CUTTING THOSE THINGS OFF. 00:21:16.899 --> 00:21:18.299 CAN YOU SHARE WHAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE? 00:21:18.399 --> 00:21:19.500 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. 00:21:19.600 --> 00:21:21.733 IT HAD TO DO WITH EVERYTHING FROM IMMORALITY, 00:21:21.833 --> 00:21:23.399 HAD TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, 00:21:23.499 --> 00:21:25.566 JUST SUBSTANCE ABUSE. 00:21:25.666 --> 00:21:26.499 HAD TO DO WITH, HONESTLY, 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:28.099 LIKE A SPIRIT OF DIVORCE 00:21:28.199 --> 00:21:29.666 THAT WAS IN OUR FAMILY, 00:21:29.766 --> 00:21:31.499 AND SO MANY PEOPLE, JUST VIOLENCE 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:33.533 AND REALLY CRAZY VIOLENT OUTBURSTS, 00:21:33.633 --> 00:21:34.900 STUFF LIKE THAT. 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:36.800 AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD REALLY 00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:38.433 JUST DELIVERED ME OF THAT. 00:21:38.533 --> 00:21:40.366 REALLY DELIVERED ME. 00:21:40.466 --> 00:21:41.599 AND IT WAS AWESOME. 00:21:41.699 --> 00:21:44.099 AND NOT THAT I, YOU KNOW, ACTED ON ANY OF THOSE THINGS, 00:21:44.199 --> 00:21:45.700 BUT IT WAS SO IN THE LINEAGE 00:21:45.800 --> 00:21:47.533 THAT THE LORD REALLY SET US FREE. 00:21:47.633 --> 00:21:49.600 AND IT'S NOT IN OUR FAMILY TODAY AT ALL. 00:21:49.700 --> 00:21:50.399 >> BECAUSE YOU WERE GOING TO END UP, 00:21:50.499 --> 00:21:52.333 YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FAMILY NOW, 00:21:52.433 --> 00:21:55.099 AND SO IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT YOU BREAK THAT STUFF OFF 00:21:55.199 --> 00:21:57.400 BEFORE YOU HAD - BEFORE IT WOULD GO ON ANY FURTHER. 00:21:57.500 --> 00:21:58.366 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 00:21:58.466 --> 00:21:59.432 I'LL TELL YOU 00:21:59.532 --> 00:22:00.400 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE SO MUCH ABOUT, 00:22:00.500 --> 00:22:02.000 LIKE DAYSTAR, WHICH YOU GUYS ALL DO, 00:22:02.100 --> 00:22:04.466 IS IT'S SUCH A FAMILY-ORIENTATED SETTING, 00:22:04.566 --> 00:22:05.766 AND OUR MINISTRY IS VERY SIMILAR. 00:22:05.866 --> 00:22:07.566 LIKE, OUR KIDS WORK FOR US. 00:22:07.666 --> 00:22:09.266 THEY'RE PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. 00:22:09.366 --> 00:22:11.899 AND I'VE JUST SEEN THAT THAT DECISION, 00:22:11.999 --> 00:22:15.166 THAT LINE IN THE SAND, THAT THE LORD BROUGHT SUCH FAVOR, 00:22:15.266 --> 00:22:17.233 THAT TODAY OUR CHILDREN LOVE BEING WITH US. 00:22:17.333 --> 00:22:19.866 EVEN MY DAUGHTER'S SPOUSE LOVES BEING WITH US. 00:22:19.966 --> 00:22:20.599 >> OH, THAT'S THE BEST. 00:22:20.699 --> 00:22:21.800 >> IT IS THE BEST. 00:22:21.900 --> 00:22:24.199 AND YOU GUYS REALLY EXEMPLIFY THAT WELL HERE. 00:22:24.299 --> 00:22:25.533 BUT SO THAT'S THE JOURNEY THAT 00:22:25.633 --> 00:22:26.899 THE LORD TOOK ME ON. 00:22:26.999 --> 00:22:29.400 AND THEN FROM THERE I BEGAN TO STEP FORWARD 00:22:29.500 --> 00:22:31.333 WHERE I RAN INTO MORE AND MORE PROPHETS 00:22:31.433 --> 00:22:32.466 FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. 00:22:32.566 --> 00:22:35.232 GOD BEGAN TO LEAD ME AND GUIDE ME THAT WAY. 00:22:35.332 --> 00:22:36.966 >> SO YOU'RE LIKE ON A SPIRITUAL PILGRIMAGE? 00:22:37.066 --> 00:22:38.200 >> I WAS ON A PILGRIMAGE. 00:22:38.300 --> 00:22:39.133 >> NO, YOU WERE. 00:22:39.233 --> 00:22:40.866 GOD WAS LIKE LINING YOUR STEPS UP. 00:22:40.966 --> 00:22:42.133 AND SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE STORIES, 00:22:42.233 --> 00:22:44.066 IF PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, WHERE IT'S LIKE, 00:22:44.166 --> 00:22:46.400 WELL, I HAVE THIS GIFTING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, 00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:48.032 BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU JUST GOT INTO THE WORD, 00:22:48.132 --> 00:22:49.466 HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, 00:22:49.566 --> 00:22:50.900 AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE OBEDIENT. 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.000 >> THAT'S RIGHT. 00:22:52.100 --> 00:22:52.933 >> AND HE KIND OF JUST HAS LINED YOUR STEPS UP 00:22:53.033 --> 00:22:54.399 EVER SINCE THEN. 00:22:54.499 --> 00:22:56.300 >> WELL, HERE'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT PEOPLE MISS, 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:58.066 LIKE IN GIFTING OR ANYTHING, 00:22:58.166 --> 00:23:01.033 IS YOU GET TO ADD A LOT OF DISCIPLINE, HARD WORK, 00:23:01.133 --> 00:23:02.400 AND SERVANTHOOD. 00:23:02.500 --> 00:23:04.433 AND SERVANTHOOD, IF I COULD SAY IT TO ANYBODY, 00:23:04.533 --> 00:23:05.266 THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, 00:23:05.366 --> 00:23:07.300 I GOT THIS GIFT, WHAT DO I DO? 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:09.866 FIND A VISION AND SERVE THAT VISION 00:23:09.966 --> 00:23:11.366 UNTIL ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENS. 00:23:11.466 --> 00:23:13.100 EITHER THAT VISION BECOMES YOUR VISION, 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:14.666 OR GOD GIVES YOU YOUR OWN, 00:23:14.766 --> 00:23:16.099 AND THEN THERE'S A BLESSING IN THAT. 00:23:16.199 --> 00:23:18.399 AND I'LL TELL YOU, I DID THAT FOR 16 YEARS. 00:23:18.499 --> 00:23:19.866 I CARRIED BAGS, I DID STUFF, 00:23:19.966 --> 00:23:21.866 I WOULD GO WITH LEADERS ALL OVER THE WORLD, 00:23:21.966 --> 00:23:23.599 JET LAG, STAND WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, 00:23:23.699 --> 00:23:25.066 DO ANYTHING THEY WANTED. 00:23:25.166 --> 00:23:26.133 EVERYTHING FROM IRONING THEIR CLOTHES 00:23:26.233 --> 00:23:27.532 TO DRIVING THEIR CAR. 00:23:27.632 --> 00:23:29.032 YOU DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS 00:23:29.132 --> 00:23:31.133 AND GOD CAN BEGIN TO TRUST YOU. 00:23:31.233 --> 00:23:32.399 SO I HAD - 00:23:32.499 --> 00:23:33.333 >> BEING FAITHFUL IN THE LITTLE 00:23:33.433 --> 00:23:34.366 >> YES, MA'AM. 00:23:34.466 --> 00:23:35.633 >> AND BEING ABLE TO BE TRUSTED WITH MUCH. 00:23:35.733 --> 00:23:36.899 >> YES, MA'AM. 00:23:36.999 --> 00:23:38.833 I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AND DO STUFF EVERYWHERE 00:23:38.933 --> 00:23:41.433 AND I WOULD SAY NO, NO, NO, NO, 00:23:41.533 --> 00:23:44.466 BECAUSE I HAD A COMMITMENT TO A LEADER, 00:23:44.566 --> 00:23:46.999 TO LEADERSHIP, TO REALLY DEVELOP IN THAT AREA. 00:23:47.099 --> 00:23:48.599 AND I BELIEVED IT WAS IMPORTANT. 00:23:48.699 --> 00:23:50.466 AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE I SERVED WERE REALLY TOUGH. 00:23:50.566 --> 00:23:51.366 >> YEAH. 00:23:51.466 --> 00:23:52.100 >> I MEAN, REALLY, REALLY TOUGH. 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:53.000 >> THAT'S WHERE YOU LEARN. 00:23:53.100 --> 00:23:54.566 >> THAT'S WHERE YOU LEARN. 00:23:54.666 --> 00:23:56.366 >> IT'S NOT FUN, BUT I MEAN - 00:23:56.466 --> 00:23:57.966 AND THAT'S ALL THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE. 00:23:58.066 --> 00:24:00.532 MY FAVORITE EXAMPLE IS DAVID AND SAUL. 00:24:00.632 --> 00:24:02.766 I MEAN, HE WAS, SAUL WAS PRETTY CRAZY BY THE TIME 00:24:02.866 --> 00:24:07.099 DAVID WAS SERVING HIM, BUT HE LEARNED 00:24:07.199 --> 00:24:09.533 AND IT PREPARED HIM TO BE KING. 00:24:09.633 --> 00:24:12.832 ONE OF THE, I MEAN, THE GREATEST KING OF ISRAEL. 00:24:12.932 --> 00:24:15.766 SO HOW DID YOU KNOW WHO TO GO UNDER IN LEADERSHIP? 00:24:15.866 --> 00:24:18.266 DID YOU FEEL LIKE GOD WAS JUST LEADING YOU THAT WAY, 00:24:18.366 --> 00:24:19.199 AND THEN YOU FELT LIKE, OKAY, 00:24:19.299 --> 00:24:21.133 THIS IS THE MAN I NEED TO BE SERVING? 00:24:21.233 --> 00:24:22.666 YOU KNOW, WHAT I FOUND, REBECCA, 00:24:22.766 --> 00:24:24.766 IS IF YOU SPEND COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF TIMES 00:24:24.866 --> 00:24:26.766 PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT, 00:24:26.866 --> 00:24:28.599 LOTS AND LOTS OF TIME, READ THE WORD, 00:24:28.699 --> 00:24:30.600 PRAY IN THE SPIRIT, GO BACK AND FORTH. 00:24:30.700 --> 00:24:32.533 AND WHAT BEGINS TO PRESENT ITSELF TO YOU, 00:24:32.633 --> 00:24:34.399 IF YOU'RE IN THE SPIRIT, THE LORD WILL BEGIN 00:24:34.499 --> 00:24:36.199 TO JUST OPEN UP TO YOU. 00:24:36.299 --> 00:24:39.399 SO I HAD A PROPHET SHOW UP, HE'S IN HEAVEN TODAY. 00:24:39.499 --> 00:24:41.133 I HAD A PROPHET SHOW UP 00:24:41.233 --> 00:24:44.500 WHO HAPPENED TO BE MY WIFE'S FATHER. 00:24:44.600 --> 00:24:47.300 AND SO HE SHOWED UP AND REALLY STARTED 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:48.366 TO DO MEETINGS. 00:24:48.466 --> 00:24:50.866 AND THE FIRST MEETING HE EVER DID IN THIS CHURCH, 00:24:50.966 --> 00:24:52.366 AND THERE'S ABOUT 800 PEOPLE IN IT, 00:24:52.466 --> 00:24:54.866 HE GETS UP AND PREACHES, AND I'M LIKE VERY YOUNG. 00:24:54.966 --> 00:24:56.666 I'M LIKE 20 YEARS OLD. 00:24:56.766 --> 00:24:58.899 HE STARTS PREACHING AND MINISTERING AND PROPHESYING, 00:24:58.999 --> 00:25:00.166 GIVES ME THIS PROPHETIC WORD. 00:25:00.266 --> 00:25:01.533 HE GETS DONE GIVING ME A PROPHETIC WORD 00:25:01.633 --> 00:25:03.866 AND THE FIRE ALARMS GO OFF IN THE BUILDING. 00:25:03.966 --> 00:25:06.200 THE FIRE ALARMS WENT OFF AND THEY WENT ON AND ON 00:25:06.300 --> 00:25:08.166 FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES AND DIDN'T STOP, 00:25:08.266 --> 00:25:09.433 AND HE JUST KEPT PREACHING. 00:25:09.533 --> 00:25:10.933 AND I'M TALKING IN A GYMNASIUM, 00:25:11.033 --> 00:25:13.266 GYMNASIUM CHURCH, 800 PEOPLE, 00:25:13.366 --> 00:25:14.566 FIRE ALARMS BLARING. 00:25:14.666 --> 00:25:17.500 AS THEY GO OFF, A WOMAN JUMPS UP DEMONIZED, 00:25:17.600 --> 00:25:18.832 STARTS SCREAMING IN THE MEETING 00:25:18.932 --> 00:25:20.599 AND SAYS, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS VESSEL OUT. 00:25:20.699 --> 00:25:22.066 I'M GOING TO TAKE THESE PEOPLE OUT, 00:25:22.166 --> 00:25:23.199 AND I'M GOING TO TAKE OUT ALL THESE PEOPLE. 00:25:23.299 --> 00:25:25.032 I'M GOING TO KILL EVERYBODY AROUND ME. 00:25:25.132 --> 00:25:26.133 AND ALL THIS STUFF HAPPENS. 00:25:26.233 --> 00:25:27.766 AND HE WALKED OVER AND TOOK AUTHORITY OVER THAT, 00:25:27.866 --> 00:25:30.300 SAT HER DOWN, LOOKED TO SOME PEOPLE NEXT TO HIM 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.266 AND COULD TELL WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE 00:25:32.366 --> 00:25:33.366 AND SAID, WHY WOULD YOU THINK THIS? 00:25:33.466 --> 00:25:34.666 AND WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT? 00:25:34.766 --> 00:25:36.832 AND THEY BEGAN TO SCREAM OUT, LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS! 00:25:36.932 --> 00:25:39.199 AND THE TRUE OFFICE OF THE PROPHET CAME IN THE ROOM. 00:25:39.299 --> 00:25:41.333 AND THE FUNNY PART ABOUT THIS STORY IS, TOO, 00:25:41.433 --> 00:25:44.366 SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE AREA IN TOWN THAT MORNING 00:25:44.466 --> 00:25:45.733 HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, 00:25:45.833 --> 00:25:48.466 WE'VE NEVER GONE TO A CHARISMATIC CHURCH BEFORE. 00:25:48.566 --> 00:25:50.833 SO LET'S JUST PICK ONE AND LET'S GO AND LET'S SEE 00:25:50.933 --> 00:25:52.433 HOW THEY DO IT OVER THERE. 00:25:52.533 --> 00:25:54.599 AND THOSE PEOPLE SAT IN FRONT OF THIS WOMAN 00:25:54.699 --> 00:25:56.599 THAT JUMPED UP WITH DEMONS WHILE THE FIRE ALARMS 00:25:56.699 --> 00:25:58.966 ARE GOING OFF, AND HE'S PROPHESYING TO EVERYBODY. 00:25:59.066 --> 00:26:00.033 AND THAT WAS THEIR FIRST EXPERIENCE 00:26:00.133 --> 00:26:01.400 WITH THE CHARISMATIC CHURCH. 00:26:01.500 --> 00:26:03.099 I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE TODAY, 00:26:03.199 --> 00:26:04.766 BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FUNNY LITTLE CAVEAT 00:26:04.866 --> 00:26:06.266 TO THE STORY. 00:26:06.366 --> 00:26:09.299 BUT THAT BEING SAID, THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE, REALLY, 00:26:09.399 --> 00:26:11.500 WITH THE FIRST TIME SEEING THE OFFICE OF THE PROPHET 00:26:11.600 --> 00:26:12.633 CALLING THINGS OUT, 00:26:12.733 --> 00:26:14.233 DRAMATIC SCENARIOS. 00:26:14.333 --> 00:26:16.532 AND I WENT ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL, 00:26:16.632 --> 00:26:20.233 AND WE DID STADIUM MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. 00:26:20.333 --> 00:26:23.132 WE WORKED WITH PRESIDENTS AND PARLIAMENTARY LEADERS 00:26:23.232 --> 00:26:25.533 AND, YOU KNOW, JUDGES AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 00:26:25.633 --> 00:26:27.466 ATTORNEYS, NATIONAL ATTORNEYS. 00:26:27.566 --> 00:26:29.166 AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE'D GO 00:26:29.266 --> 00:26:31.133 AND GIVE THE WORD OF THE LORD, EVEN TO THE POINT 00:26:31.233 --> 00:26:35.666 THAT IN THE HONDURAS ELECTION BACK IN 2006, 00:26:35.766 --> 00:26:36.933 THERE WAS A TBN BROADCAST WE WERE ON, 00:26:37.033 --> 00:26:40.466 AND HE STANDS UP WITH A MARKER AND A WHITEBOARD, 00:26:40.566 --> 00:26:43.399 WHICH IS SOMETHING THE LORD HAS CALLED ME TO DO. 00:26:43.499 --> 00:26:45.099 AND HE'S THERE, AND MANY PEOPLE LAID HANDS 00:26:45.199 --> 00:26:46.766 ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND SAID, 00:26:46.866 --> 00:26:47.999 THIS IS GOD'S CHOICE. 00:26:48.099 --> 00:26:50.466 AND HE WENT THERE LIVE ON TELEVISION AND WROTE THE NAME 00:26:50.566 --> 00:26:52.632 MEL ZELAYA ON A WHITEBOARD. 00:26:52.732 --> 00:26:54.500 AND MEL ZELAYA WAS A LIBERAL CANDIDATE. 00:26:54.600 --> 00:26:56.333 NOT SOMEBODY THAT WE WOULD HAVE CHOSEN. 00:26:56.433 --> 00:26:57.800 BUT THE LORD SAID, HE WILL WIN 00:26:57.900 --> 00:26:59.266 AND HE WILL WIN BY 13 POINTS, 00:26:59.366 --> 00:27:01.566 BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE NATION IS GOING TO HAVE 00:27:01.666 --> 00:27:03.066 IN THIS SEASON. 00:27:03.166 --> 00:27:04.433 AND SO HE SAID THAT AND MANY PEOPLE SAID, 00:27:04.533 --> 00:27:05.633 NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 00:27:05.733 --> 00:27:08.000 BUT THEN THAT MAN WON BY 13 POINTS, 00:27:08.100 --> 00:27:10.100 AND WE WENT BACK DOWN AND DID A STADIUM MEETING THERE 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.000 UNDER THE WELCOME OF THAT PRESIDENT. 00:27:13.100 --> 00:27:14.099 AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO LEAD 00:27:14.199 --> 00:27:15.466 MANY GANGS TO THE LORD. 00:27:15.566 --> 00:27:17.866 WE WERE MINISTERING TO THEM. 00:27:17.966 --> 00:27:20.400 BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF MENTORSHIP WE WERE UNDER 00:27:20.500 --> 00:27:21.399 FOR A LONG TIME. 00:27:21.499 --> 00:27:22.600 WE'D GO AROUND THE WORLD AND, YOU KNOW, 00:27:22.700 --> 00:27:25.133 SOME OF IT WAS GOOD, SOME OF IT WAS REALLY INTENSE, 00:27:25.233 --> 00:27:26.766 BUT IT HELPED. 00:27:26.866 --> 00:27:29.133 >> WELL, WE ARE OUT OF TIME. 00:27:29.233 --> 00:27:30.299 I WANT TO KEEP GOING. 00:27:30.399 --> 00:27:31.632 SO YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK. 00:27:31.732 --> 00:27:34.399 [ LAUGHTER ] 00:27:34.499 --> 00:27:35.466 GO AHEAD. 00:27:35.566 --> 00:27:37.132 >> OH, REBECCA, IT IS SO GREAT TO BE WITH YOU. 00:27:37.232 --> 00:27:40.099 WHAT A GREAT PODCAST, YOU DO SUCH A GREAT JOB. 00:27:40.199 --> 00:27:41.199 IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE, 00:27:41.299 --> 00:27:43.633 AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL TO GET THIS TIME WITH YOU. 00:27:43.733 --> 00:27:44.833 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 00:27:44.933 --> 00:27:46.399 AND JUST ANY LAST WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT 00:27:46.499 --> 00:27:48.466 FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING. 00:27:48.566 --> 00:27:50.166 >> WELL, ON A BAD DAY, YOU'RE ANOINTED TO BE 00:27:50.266 --> 00:27:51.333 THE BEST THERE IS. 00:27:51.433 --> 00:27:52.899 AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO SAY 00:27:52.999 --> 00:27:55.500 AS WE WERE TALKING IS, YOU KNOW, 00:27:55.600 --> 00:27:56.933 WHEN YOU FIND YOUR PEOPLE, 00:27:57.033 --> 00:27:58.033 YOU'LL FIND YOUR CALLING. 00:27:58.133 --> 00:28:00.032 AND THIS IS SO VITAL RIGHT NOW THAT PEOPLE 00:28:00.132 --> 00:28:01.366 ARE RUNNING HERE, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE TRYING 00:28:01.466 --> 00:28:02.999 TO GO TO PLACES WHERE THEY THINK IT'S SAFE. 00:28:03.099 --> 00:28:05.799 LISTEN, YOU'VE GOT TO BE WHERE GOD'S CALLED YOU TO BE. 00:28:05.899 --> 00:28:07.899 AND YOU'LL KNOW YOU'RE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE 00:28:07.999 --> 00:28:09.666 OR YOUR TRIBE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY 00:28:09.766 --> 00:28:11.899 THE WRONG THING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. 00:28:11.999 --> 00:28:15.366 NOR CAN YOU SAY THE RIGHT THING TO THE WRONG PEOPLE. 00:28:15.466 --> 00:28:16.633 YOU GOT TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING. 00:28:16.733 --> 00:28:18.233 YOU GOT TO LINE UP WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE, 00:28:18.333 --> 00:28:19.632 AND YOU WILL KNOW YOUR CALLING 00:28:19.732 --> 00:28:21.000 AND YOU WILL HIT YOUR DESTINY. 00:28:21.100 --> 00:28:23.666 AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S MORE NECESSARY THAN EVER 00:28:23.766 --> 00:28:25.766 THAT YOU BUILD THAT FAITH AND KNOW YOU'RE ANOINTED 00:28:25.866 --> 00:28:27.766 FOR THESE DIFFICULT DAY WE'RE WALKING IN. 00:28:27.866 --> 00:28:28.766 >> THAT'S SO GOOD. 00:28:28.866 --> 00:28:30.766 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, JOSEPH. 00:28:30.866 --> 00:28:31.832 >> WHAT AN HONOR. 00:28:31.932 --> 00:28:33.000 >> AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO 00:28:33.100 --> 00:28:34.699 THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.