REBECCA WEISS: TODAY I SIT DOWN WITH JOSEPH Z,
A PROPHETIC VOICE TO THE NATIONS.
HE GIVES US INSIGHT INTO THE PROPHETIC
AND HOW THE WORD OF GOD IS ESSENTIAL
IN DISCERNING THE VOICE OF GOD.
HE SHARES HIS PERSONAL TESTIMONY,
FROM BEING DISOWNED BY HIS FAMILY,
TO WILD ENCOUNTERS WITH THE DEMONIC.
YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO CHECK THIS OUT.
REBECCA WEISS: HEY, GUYS, WELCOME BACK TO
THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.
I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY BECAUSE I AM JOINED
WITH JOSEPH Z.
HE IS A TEACHER, PROPHETIC VOICE, AUTHOR,
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE SHOW TODAY.
>> REBECCA, WHAT A THRILL TO BE ON YOUR PODCAST.
>> I JUST LOVE YOUR SPIRIT, AND YOU CARRY
SUCH A KNOWLEDGE AND GIFT OF THE WORD.
AND I THINK NAVIGATING THE PROPHETIC.
SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT,
BUT I WANT OUR AUDIENCE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU.
>> OKAY.
>> SO SHARE AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE OF YOUR STORY
AS YOU WANT TO.
>> WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN I FIRST GOT BORN AGAIN,
IT WAS AFTER I HAD FIRST HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD.
I WAS NINE YEARS OLD WHEN I FIRST HEARD
THE AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD.
I WAS WALKING IN A FIELD AND I HEARD MY NAME
SHOUTED OVER THE TREES.
IT SOUNDED KIND OF LIKE WIND.
IT SOUNDED LIKE I WAS BEING DRAWN.
YEAH, AND I WAS IN THIS FIELD
AND I HEARD IT TO THE POINT
I WENT BACK TO MY HOUSE OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I WORKED ON KIND OF A SMALL RANCH.
I WENT BACK -
>> WHERE DID YOU GROW UP?
>> IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA.
>> OKAY.
>> WAY UP IN THE NORTH, YOU KNOW.
IT'S VERY COLD THERE.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT I BEGAN TO HAVE THESE ENCOUNTERS
OVER AND OVER AGAIN, REBECCA,
AND THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD WAS CALLING ME,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
AND SO I'D GO HOME AND I'D SAY TO MY FATHER AT THE TIME,
SAY, HEY, WHAT DID YOU WANT?
YOU NEEDED ME?
AND HE SAID, NO, I DID NOT CALL YOU.
PLEASE GO GET BACK TO WORK, YOU KNOW.
>> YOU'RE LIKE SAMUEL.
>> I GUESS SO.
>> THAT STORY WHERE HE KEPT GOING TO ELI.
>> I GUESS SO.
>> SAYING YOU TALKED TO ME, YOU CALLED FOR ME,
AND HE WAS LIKE, NO.
>> THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
>> BUT YOU'RE -
DID YOU - WERE YOU RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN HOME?
>> NO. WELL, 50/50. PART OF IT.
SO I COME FROM A SPLIT HOUSE, YOU KNOW.
SO ONE SIDE I COME FROM A LOT OF WEALTH,
INFLUENCE AND REALLY STRONG LAND OWNERSHIP,
THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND WHEN THE LORD BEGAN TO CALL ME AND MINISTER TO ME,
ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY COMPLETELY REJECTED THAT,
TO THE POINT THAT AT 13 YEARS OLD,
THEY ASKED ME TO LEAVE MY HOUSE.
>> OH, MY GOSH.
>> YEAH, I GOT RADICALLY BORN AGAIN
BECAUSE I'D HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD.
I HAD SEEN MIRACLES.
I'D EXPERIENCED SO MANY THINGS THAT IT WAS UNDENIABLE
THAT GOD WAS DOING SOMETHING IN MY LIFE.
SO I CAME AND SHARED THIS WITH ONE SIDE
OF MY FAMILY, AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T DO THAT HERE.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
SO THEY SAID, YOU NEED TO THINK LONG AND HARD
ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO NEXT.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THIS RELIGIOUS TRAIL,
YOU CANNOT BE HERE.
WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS.
>> OH, MY GOODNESS.
>> AND SO I CHOSE JESUS IN THAT MOMENT
AND I ENDED UP WITH THE OTHER SIDE OF A FAMILY,
MY GRANDPARENTS AND ALL THAT, WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
BUT IT WAS A - IT WAS A SERIOUS DECISION.
AND PEOPLE ASKED ME, DID YOU HAVE TRAUMA OVER THAT?
THE ANSWER IS YES AND NO, BUT MAINLY NO,
BECAUSE I STARTED READING THE WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT
LIKE ONCE A WEEK AND LISTENING TO IT
AND TAKING IT IN, AND I BEGAN TO REALIZE
GOD WAS SPEAKING TO ME.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU, REBECCA,
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT.
I THOUGHT EVERYBODY COULD HEAR THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE
OR KNOW THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE
WHEN THEY WERE WITH THEM.
AND IT WAS REALLY A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD,
IT WAS REALLY A LONG LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME
BECAUSE I'D BE AROUND PEOPLE AND I ASSUMED
EVERYBODY COULD KNOW THINGS ABOUT OTHERS
OR FEEL THINGS ABOUT OTHERS, OR SEE THINGS
ABOUT PEOPLE'S FUTURE.
>> BECAUSE THAT WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE.
>> ALL THE TIME.
>> SO YOU JUST THOUGHT IT WAS NORMAL?
>> I DID.
I REMEMBER BEING AT A FUNERAL OF A FAMILY MEMBER
WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG,
AND I'M AT THIS FUNERAL, AND THEY STARTED TO READ
FROM A JOURNAL OF THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS DYING,
WHO HAD DIED,
AND THEN NOW WE'RE AT THE FUNERAL.
SUDDENLY, AS THEY'RE READING FROM THE JOURNAL
THE LAST THOUGHTS THEY'D HAD,
I FOUND MYSELF IN THEIR BEDROOM.
I'M STANDING IN THEIR BEDROOM.
AND AS I'M THERE, I'M LISTENING TO THIS,
THIS THING BEING READ, AND SUDDENLY
I AM WATCHING THEM WRITE IT.
AND I BURST INTO TEARS BECAUSE I FELT THE FEAR,
I FELT THE ANXIETY
THEY WERE GOING THROUGH, THE DEPRESSION.
AND I'M JUST THIS LITTLE KID AND I'M WEEPING
AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE,
HEY, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, YOU KNOW?
IT'S A FUNERAL.
AND I'M LIKE (SOBBING). I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND I FOUND OUT LATER IT WAS JUST A GIFT
GOD PLACED IN ME WORKING.
AND THAT'S FROM AMOS.
THE BOOK OF AMOS TALKS ABOUT I WAS NOT THE SON
OF A PROPHET, NOR WAS I A PROPHET.
BUT THEN THE LORD BEGAN TO SPEAK TO ME.
AND YOU RECOGNIZE THERE IS A PRECEDENT,
THAT THERE CAN BE PROPHETIC DNA IN PEOPLE
THAT GIFTS ARE CARRIED ON.
LIKE THE GIFT OF FAITH THAT TIMOTHY TALKED ABOUT,
ABOUT HIS GRANDMOTHER LOIS,
HIS MOTHER EUNICE, ALL OF THAT.
AND THERE CAN BE GENERATIONAL THINGS
THAT ARE PASSED ALONG.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S IN PEOPLE FROM BIRTH,
AND THEY'VE JUST GOT TO KIND OF UNPACK IT.
>> SO I WANT TO REWIND JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO YOU WERE OUT IN THE FIELDS
AND YOU HEARD THE VOICE.
WHAT WERE A COUPLE OTHER ENCOUNTERS YOU HAD
AS A YOUNG CHILD?
>> OH, MY GOODNESS.
I HAD BOTH LIGHT AND DARK ENCOUNTERS.
>> REALLY?
>> YEAH.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE HAD TO WORK THROUGH.
AND I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE INTO CLAIRVOYANCY,
PSYCHIC BEHAVIOR, ALL THAT.
AND I BEGIN TO TRY TO, IF THEY HAVE A LEGITIMATE GIFT,
I TRY TO FOSTER THEM OUT OF IT AND SAY,
HEY, YOU NEED TO REPENT OF THAT WICKEDNESS
AND YOU NEED TO GET RIGHT WITH GOD.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WILL HAVE ENCOUNTERS
WHERE TWO COMPETING VOICES WILL COME TO THEM.
AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, I HAD THE ONE VOICE
WHERE IT WAS THE VOICE OF GOD
I DETERMINED LATER, BECAUSE IT WAS SO,
CALLING ME TO RIGHTEOUSNESS,
CALLING ME BY MY NAME.
THERE WAS ANOTHER VOICE THAT SHOWED UP
AND IT'S THIS REAL -
I USED TO HESITATE TELLING THIS STUFF,
BUT I FIND TODAY'S WORLD SO CRAZY
>> YEAH.
>> YOU START TELLING THESE THINGS,
YOU CAN HELP PEOPLE.
>> EXACTLY.
>> BUT I'LL TELL YOU, REBECCA,
I'M IN THIS FIELD AND A SECOND VOICE CAME OVER TIME
AND I WAS ON AN ATV,
AND I'M JUST STANDING IN A FIELD,
AND I HAD THIS GERMAN SHEPHERD.
A WONDERFUL GERMAN SHEPHERD NAMED DUKE.
HE WAS AWESOME.
AND HE WOULD DEFEND ME, TO LIKE -
ONE TIME A BULL TRIED TO COME AT ME IN A FIELD,
AND THIS DOG JUMPED ON HIM AND BIT HIM AND STOPPED IT.
AND THIS BULL WAS GOING TO KILL ME.
YEAH.
SO I'M IN THIS FIELD, AND THIS SAME GERMAN SHEPHERD
AND I ARE TOGETHER.
AND WHEN THIS HAPPENED, A VOICE CAME,
AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT VOICE.
IT WAS NOT WARM.
IT WAS NOT KIND.
IT WAS NONE OF THOSE THINGS.
AND IT ALSO WAS CALLING ME AND DRAWING NEAR TO ME.
AND IT GOT CLOSER AND CLOSER AND CLOSER IN THIS FIELD,
TO THE POINT MY GERMAN SHEPHERD BRISTLED.
HIS HAIR BRISTLED.
>> OH, MY GOODNESS.
>> AND HE GROWLED IN THE DIRECTION.
AND THEN IT GOT REALLY CLOSE AND THE DOG RAN.
AND THIS IS A DOG THAT WENT AFTER A BULL.
NOT AFRAID.
HE TOOK OFF.
AND THEN IT GOT UP TO ME
AND, LIKE, WHISPERED MY NAME TO ME,
AND IT MADE THE HAIR ON MY ARM STAND UP, RIGHT?
AND SO I JUMPED ON MY ATV IN TERROR
AND GOT OUT OF THERE.
BUT I FOUND THAT TWO THINGS, I BELIEVE THAT WAS
AN ANGEL OF LIGHT COMING TO CLOAK ITSELF
AS A FRIEND OR SAYING,
HEY, I WANT TO KNOW YOU TYPE OF THING.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW PSYCHICS GET PULLED INTO
A DARK SPACE WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER
WHEN THEY'RE YOUNGER.
A RAW GIFT CAN BE IN THEM
AND DARKNESS AND LIGHT SEE POTENTIAL IN PEOPLE
AND BEGIN TO KNOCK ON THAT DOOR EARLY.
AND THEN THEY'LL TRY TO COME AND SAY,
HEY, THIS IS THE VOICE OF A DEAD RELATIVE,
OR THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER.
SO THEY OPEN UP TO THAT AND THEN THEY
GO DOWN A DARK PATH.
>> SO PEOPLE ARE - BECAUSE IT SAYS THE GIFTS OF GOD
ARE WITHOUT REPROACH.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> SO YOU'RE BORN WITH A GIFT TO - WITH A SENSITIVITY
TO THE SPIRITUAL REALM.
>> YES.
>> AND, YOU KNOW, GOD IS CALLING US,
BUT ALSO THE ENEMY IS CALLING.
>> YES.
>> AND SO HE - THERE WAS THAT BATTLE OVER YOU.
AND SO PEOPLE WHO GET CALLED INTO, YOU KNOW,
SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE PSYCHIC AND CLAIRVOYANT,
THEY DON'T HAVE A GIFT AND THEY'RE JUST
SHAMMING PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> BUT THEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LEGITIMATE GIFT.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT WHAT CAN BRING THEM IN IS THAT DECEPTION.
EVEN PEOPLE I'VE INTERVIEWED WHO WERE IN SATANISM,
THERE'S LIKE - THEY'RE TOLD,
OH, THE DEVIL LOVES YOU.
>> RIGHT.
>> UNTIL THE DEVIL TURNS ON THEM.
AND SO THERE'S THAT, MANIPULATION OR THAT,
THAT DECEPTION.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> SO THAT VOICE CAME TO YOU.
AND SO YOU WERE - THAT'S A LOT TO PROCESS.
>> OH, MAN. YEAH.
YOU'RE A LITTLE KID, YOU DON'T KNOW.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THE NUMBER ONE THING
AND PEOPLE ASK ALL THE TIME,
SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU BEGIN TO SORT ALL THAT OUT,
LIKE, WHERE DO YOU START AND STOP?
WELL, THAT'S WHY GOD GAVE US THE WORD
AND PROPHETIC PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT BAPTIZED
IN THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD,
THEY ARE DESTINED FOR ERROR.
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE DESIGNED FOR ERROR.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE WORD OF GOD IN YOU TO RIGHT -
I CALL IT RIGHTSIZING YOUR EXPERIENCES,
RIGHTSIZING THE ENCOUNTERS,
OR MASTERING THE EXPERIENCE.
BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU SENSE AND SEE THINGS
DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ON.
>> YEAH.
>> AND THAT'S THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS, SO MANY PEOPLE SAY,
THUS SAITH THE LORD.
BUT THE PROBLEM IS,
IS WE KNOW IN PART, WE PROPHESY IN PART,
AND ANYBODY THAT SAYS, I GOT IT 100%,
I KNOW WHAT GOD SHOWED ME,
THIS IS HOW IT IS,
THEY'RE IN A SPECTRUM AND IT DOESN'T MEAN
IT'S GOING TO BE 100% ON EVERY TIME.
SO WITH THE WORD OF GOD, YOU CAN RIGHTSIZE THAT
AND YOU CAN BE MORE ACCURATE THAN EVER BEFORE,
BUT YOU ALSO GET TO HAVE THAT HUMILITY
TO KEEP YOU IN CHECK.
IT'S A BIG DEAL.
IT REALLY IS, REBECCA.
>> SO HOW DID YOU FIND JESUS?
>> OH, MAN, THIS IS GREAT.
I LOVE THIS STORY.
I WENT TO A YOUTH CAMP.
I WAS AT A YOUTH CAMP.
I WAS ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, AS AN EIGHT -
AT ABOUT 13, I BELIEVE.
>> DID SOMEONE INVITE YOU?
>> YEAH.
WELL, THIS IS GREAT.
SO MY GRANDPARENTS, WHO ARE RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE,
OKAY, THEY GOT BORN AGAIN.
THEY CAME OUT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH,
MY MOM WITH THEM.
ONE DAY THEY KNEW THAT ONE SIDE OF MY FAMILY
WAS REALLY BRUTAL,
AND THEY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW,
NEVER LET ME BE AROUND RELIGIOUS THINGS.
MY GRANDPARENTS SAID, HEY, LET'S GO FOR A DRIVE,
YOU KNOW, AND LET'S TAKE A RIDE TOGETHER
AS A FAMILY, AND WE DID THAT.
AND ONE THING LED TO ANOTHER,
AND WE FOUND OUT THEY HAD ACTUALLY KIDNAPED US.
THEY KIDNAPED US.
>> WAIT.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
>> YEAH, THEY KIDNAPED US AND THEY TOOK US TO A YOUTH CAMP
AND THEY SAID, YOU KIDS ARE GOING TO KNOW GOD.
AND SO -
I DON'T RECOMMEND THIS, BUT I JUST REALIZED IT WORKED.
>> A LITTLE SCARY.
>> IT'S VERY SCARY.
BUT IT WORKED FOR US.
>> WAS IT A GOOD YOUTH CAMP THOUGH?
>> IT WAS AWESOME.
>> OKAY. WELL, THAT'S GOOD.
>> WE GOT THERE AND THAT IS WHERE I GOT INTRODUCED
TO THE POWER OF GOD.
AND THAT'S WHERE THINGS HAPPENED.
SO IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ONE SIDE OF THE FAMILY
IS VERY HOSTILE;
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FAMILY IS LIKE KIDNAPING US
FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
AND WHEN WE GOT -
>> SO THERE WAS KIND OF LIKE A FIGHT
GOING ON OVER YOUR SOULS.
>> MASSIVELY, REBECCA, YEAH.
SO WHEN WE GOT THERE -
>> HENCE THE KIDNAPING,
>> HENCE THE KIDNAPING.
>> JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT,
>> JUST FOR ALL THE PARENTS OUT THERE,
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE A RIGHTEOUS CHILD,
YOU KIDNAP THEM.
I'M JUST KIDDING. DO NOT DO THAT.
>> DO NOT DO THAT.
BUT THAT EXPLAINS WHY THEY WERE MAYBE DESPERATE.
>> THEY WERE.
BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY HOSTILE
ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO WHEN WE GOT THERE, I SAW MIRACLES.
LEGITIMATE MIRACLES.
I USED TO HAVE ALLERGIES TO BEE STINGS.
I GOT PRAYER FOR THAT.
I FELL ON THE FLOOR, WOKE BACK UP,
AND I GOT STUNG SOMETIME LATER,
RIGHT IN THE THROAT, AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
>> WOW.
>> I HAD A BROTHER - I HAVE A BROTHER.
ONE OF HIS ANKLES WAS TURNED.
HIS LEG WAS SHORTER THAN THE OTHER AND HE WAS GOING
TO THERAPY FOR IT.
HE GOT PRAYER AND I WATCHED HIS ANKLE
STRAIGHTEN OUT AND HIS LEG GREW.
>> WOW.
>> AND I SAW THIS AND THIS MINISTER RELEASED
THIS POWER.
AND WHEN IT HAPPENED, THE POWER OF GOD JUST SO HIT ME
THAT I COULDN'T DENY WHAT I HAD SEEN,
WHAT I'D EXPERIENCED.
AND SO I COMPLETELY WENT ALL IN WITH THE LORD.
I GAVE MY LIFE TO HIM.
ALL OF THAT THAT LED TO THAT 13-YEAR-OLD DECISION.
>> AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER SIDE
OF YOUR FAMILY SAID, IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHOOSE GOD,
THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. YEP.
>> AND SO YOU WENT TO LIVE WITH THE OTHER SIDE,
WITH THE GRANDPARENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT?
>> THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH.
>> MAN, WHEN YOU WERE 13, WAS IT JUST YOU?
>> IT WAS JUST ME.
I HAD TWO SIBLINGS.
THEY STAYED BEHIND, BUT I, I WENT ON
AND I SERVED THE LORD.
>> SO YOU REALLY HAD TO MAKE A REAL SACRIFICE
AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE GAVE UP A LOT.
AND I WAS TOLD, IF YOU DO THIS,
THERE WILL BE NO INHERITANCE FOR YOU.
AT A YOUNG AGE,
THEY BROKE IT DOWN.
I SAID, I CHOOSE JESUS.
AND SO IT WAS STRONG.
YOU KNOW, I'M SO -
REBECCA, LISTEN, I'M SO IMPRESSED
BY WHAT GOD'S DOING IN YOUR LIFE,
AND THIS MINISTRY AND THE WAY THAT
YOU ARE BUILDING THIS.
I BELIEVE THIS PODCAST YOU'RE DOING IS GOING TO BECOME
A TREMENDOUS SOURCE OF LIGHT FOR MANY PEOPLE,
ESPECIALLY IN THE COMING YEAR AND THE COMING SEASON.
AS PEOPLE GET MORE AND MORE DESPERATE,
I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ANSWERS AND HOPE
AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL FOR MANY PEOPLE.
MANY EARS, MANY VOICES, MANY MOMS.
AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
NOT ONLY CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS, BUT TOPICS THAT BRING HOPE,
PEACE AND CLARITY TO PEOPLE.
THIS IS AN - YOU CAN FEEL THE PRESENCE OF GOD
ON THIS PODCAST.
WELL DONE, WOMAN OF GOD.
THIS IS AWESOME.
>> THANK YOU.
I RECEIVE THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR MINISTRY
AND YOU BEING HERE, AND THAT IS OUR HOPE
FOR THIS PODCAST.
SO I'M BELIEVING THAT.
SO YOU GROW UP, AND HOW DID YOU -
WERE YOU IN A CHURCH THAT HELPED STEWARD
YOUR PROPHETIC GIFTING,
OR HOW DID THAT - HOW DID YOU NAVIGATE THAT JOURNEY?
WAS YOUR HOME SPIRIT FILLED THAT YOU GREW UP IN?
DID THEY UNDERSTAND YOUR GIFTING
AND YOU, LIKE WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> I WOULD SAY YES AND NO.
YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ANYTHING.
IT'S A MIXED BAG, OF COURSE,
BUT I DID DO A LOT OF TRAVELING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I ENDED UP WITH A COUNTRY WESTERN SINGER,
OF ALL THINGS.
HE USED TO PLAY WITH LIKE OR WORK WITH JOHNNY CASH,
WAYLON JENNINGS.
>> WAIT, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
>> I KNOW, SO THAT SAME CAMP THAT I WAS AT HAD A,
HAD A YOUTH MINISTRY THERE,
AND ONE OF THEM WAS A COUNTRY WESTERN,
OLD COUNTRY SINGER, YOU KNOW, GOT BORN AGAIN.
AND SO DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO HELPING YOUNG PEOPLE
JUST HELPING THEM MATURE IN GOD.
AND SO WE'D GO MINISTER AT BOYS RANCHES,
WHERE TROUBLED YOUTH WERE.
I'D GO MINISTER ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AT 13, 14, 15.
>> ARE YOU SERIOUS?
SO YOU STARTED REALLY YOUNG.
>> RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE, YEAH.
>> HOW DID YOU KNOW -
HOW DID YOU KNOW TO DO THAT?
>> I JUST GOT INVITED TO GO, LIKE -
>> SO GOD JUST STARTED OPENING DOORS?
>> YEAH.
>> SO YOU GOT SAVED, FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT,
I'M ASSUMING.
>> YES.
>> AND WHAT WAS THAT LIKE FOR YOU?
DID YOU GET THAT AT THAT CAMP?
>> I DID, YEAH, I GOT THAT AT THE CAMP, REBECCA.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, WHEN WE STARTED MINISTERING ALL OVER,
I RAN INTO EVERYTHING FROM SATANISTS TO,
YOU KNOW, WITCHCRAFT, TO STUFF THAT WOULD
CAST OUT DEMONS.
>> WAIT, HOW DID YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO DO THAT?
>> I DIDN'T KNOW, I JUST READ THE BIBLE.
I SAID, I SEE IT IN THE BIBLE,
SO WE GOT TO CAST THIS STUFF OUT.
>> OH, SO YOU WERE, LIKE, READING IT
AND THEN APPLYING IT IN YOUR REAL LIFE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU ONE OF THE
SIGNIFICANT MOMENTS WHEN THINGS STARTED TO
REALLY TURN FOR ME,
AND I'VE HAD - ANOTHER FRIEND WOULD
TRAVEL WITH ME AT THAT AGE,
AND HE'S STILL WITH ME IN MINISTRY TODAY.
WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER LIKE 33 YEARS OR SOMETHING.
>> I LOVE THAT.
>> YEAH, IT'S AWESOME.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU, WE AT THAT TIME,
JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER THAT,
I WAS INSTRUCTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT
TO GO TO THE CEMETERY WHERE MY GRANDFATHER WAS BURIED
ON THE DARK SIDE OF THINGS.
I WENT TO THE CEMETERY AND AS I WALKED THERE,
REBECCA, IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
IT WAS DARK. IT WAS GLOOMY.
NO LIGHTS AT THE TIME.
THERE WAS LIKE A MOON THROUGH THE TREES.
IT'S A LITTLE COUNTRY, CREEPY CEMETERY.
AND I GO WALKING OUT INTO THESE, THESE TOMBS.
AND BECAUSE I WAS FINDING MY GRANDFATHER'S GRAVE.
AND I WALKED THERE, AND WHEN I DID,
I STOOD OVER IT AND I HAD THE BOLDNESS
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT COME ON ME
AND I POINTED AT THE GRAVE,
NOT IN JUDGMENT OF HIM, BUT IN JUDGMENT OF THE SPIRITS
THAT HAD COME AFTER MY FAMILY.
SO I POINTED AT IT, AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT STOPS WITH ME.
ALL OF IT STOPS WITH ME.
AND I START A NEW LINEAGE IN JESUS' NAME.
I DRAW A LINE. AS FOR ME, AND MY HOUSE,
WE'LL SERVE THE LORD.
AND I CUT OFF AND RENOUNCED EVERYTHING
THAT OUR FAMILY HAD STOOD FOR UP TO THAT POINT.
ON ONE SIDE OF THINGS, AND IT WAS NOT A -
NOT A GOOD HERITAGE.
AND FROM THAT POINT, I LEFT AND I FELT THE POWER OF GOD.
A WEEK LATER I GO TO THIS CHURCH,
AND IT'S KIND OF A SEEKER FRIENDLY CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, THEY DO PUPPET SHOWS TO GET PEOPLE BORN AGAIN,
WHICH IS GREAT, RIGHT?
BUT I GO INTO THIS CHURCH AND AS I'M THERE,
I BEGAN TO WALK IN AND I'VE BEEN SO
IN THE WORD OF GOD,
SO SPENDING TIME, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN I WALK IN
AND A LADY SCREAMS OUT FROM ACROSS THE ROOM,
JUST SHRIEKS AND SAYS, THE VOICES.
REBECCA, THE VOICES TOLD ME NOT TO TALK TO YOU.
THE VOICES SAID YOU WERE COMING.
AND I'M LIKE, I GOT A MESSAGE FOR THE VOICES.
I'M LIKE 16 AT THIS TIME.
>> WAIT. AT A SEEKER FRIENDLY CHURCH?
>> YEAH.
>> I JUST CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.
WHAT WERE THE STAFF DOING?
>> THE PUPPETS WENT FASTER.
NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.
I DON'T KNOW.
WAS THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF WORSHIP,
OR WHEN WAS THIS IN THE SERVICE?
>> IT WAS RIGHT AFTER WORSHIP,
AND IT WAS DURING A TIME WHEN THERE WAS LIKE
A BREAK IN MOMENTS -
>> WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF TRANSITIONING?
>> YEAH.
>> OH, MY GOSH. DID EVERYONE JUST STARE?
>> YES.
>> SO IT WAS LIKE A HOLY GHOST SHOWDOWN.
>> IT WAS.
>> SO SHE SAID THE - SORRY. DO, DO, DO.
>> YEAH, IT WAS.
>> TALK ABOUT THE COUNTRY CEMETERY.
>> DUN, DUN, DUN, YEAH.
AND THEN I HAD A BANJO PLAYING FROM THE COUNTRY.
>> THAT'S JUST FUNNY.
OKAY. SO Y'ALL -
SO SHE SAYS THE VOICES TOLD ME NOT TO TALK TO YOU.
>> THAT'S WHAT SHE SCREAMED, YEAH.
>> SO WOULD DID YOU SAY?
>> I SAID, HEY,
I GOT A MESSAGE FOR THE VOICES,
BECAUSE I'M ALL FULL OF THE WORD OF GOD.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER.
SO I JUST STARTED MOUTHING OFF TO IT.
I JUST SAID, YOU CAN SHUT UP IN JESUS' NAME.
YOU KNOW, BASICALLY I BIND YOU.
THE LADY DROPS IN THE MEETING, BAM!
PEOPLE WENT INTO A PANIC BECAUSE IT'S SEEKER FRIENDLY.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
>> NO. YEAH.
>> SO THEY STARTED JUMPING ON HER AND HOLDING HER DOWN
BECAUSE SHE'S WRITHING AND FULL OF DEMONS,
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO HOLD HER DOWN.
AND SO WHEN I WENT OVER, I SAID,
PLEASE LEAVE HER ALONE.
YOU KNOW, LET ME PRAY FOR THIS PERSON.
AND I GET OVER TO HER AND I COME DOWN TO SAY SOME THINGS,
AND THESE TWO VOICES COME OUT OF HER.
>> OH, GOSH. DID THEY SOUND DIFFERENT
THAN HER VOICE, OR WAS IT HER TALKING?
>> VERY DIFFERENT, YEAH.
>> OH, LORD.
>> AND THEY NAMED THEMSELVES,
WHICH I DON'T LIKE GIVING GLORY TO THAT STUFF,
BUT THEY NAMED THEMSELVES AND SAID
WE WERE THERE LAST WEEK AT THE CEMETERY
WHEN YOU WERE PRAYING.
WE WERE THERE.
WE WERE WATCHING YOU, AND WE'VE BEEN WATCHING YOU.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, THAT GOT MY ATTENTION.
>> OH, MY GOODNESS.
DID YOU CAST THEM OUT OF THE LADY?
>> YES, I DID.
>> WAS SHE SAVED?
>> SO SHE RAN OUT OF THE CHURCH AFTER THAT.
A WEEK LATER, OR A FEW DAYS LATER,
SHE SHOWED UP WITH HER WARLOCK AT MY HOUSE.
>> OH, WAS SHE A WITCH?
>> YEAH, SHE WAS A WITCH HIDING IN THE CHURCH,
WHICH HAPPENS A LOT.
>> OKAY. THAT DOES HAPPEN BECAUSE I'VE INTERVIEWED -
I INTERVIEWED SOMEONE WHO WAS A WITCH,
AND SHE SAID THAT THEY USED TO DO THAT ON PURPOSE.
>> YES.
>> SO THAT IS A THING, IT'S NOT CRAZY.
>> NO.
>> SO SHE WAS A WITCH
SO SHE WAS ON ASSIGNMENT PROBABLY TO FIND YOU.
>> WELL, REBECCA, IT REMINDS ME OF THIS.
THIS STORY OF A GUY WHO WAS IN A SMALL GROUP
WHERE THEY WERE ALL SITTING TOGETHER,
AND HE THOUGHT HE WAS COMING TOGETHER
FOR A FELLOWSHIP GROUP, AND HE'S THERE.
AND A LEADER WAS IN THE GROUP,
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE SAID, LET'S HOLD HANDS,
LET'S HAVE A S !ANCE.
LET'S DO THIS STUFF.
HE REALIZED, I SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS GROUP,
AND HE STARTED TO GO.
AND THIS MAN, HE REALIZED, WAS A MEDIUM,
AND HE WAS TRYING TO RUN THIS GROUP.
AND HE GETS TO THE DOOR AND HE SAYS,
LET ME OUT OF HERE.
THE MAN BEGAN TO LAUGH AND LAUGH AND LAUGH.
AND SO I ASKED THE QUESTION,
WELL, WHAT DID YOU DO?
HE SAID, I PUNCHED HIM IN THE FACE
AND I RAN OUT THE DOOR,
AND I SAID, WHY DID YOU DO THAT?
HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHEN IN DOUBT,
STRIKE A HAPPY MEDIUM.
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> ANYWAY, SORRY.
I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD MOMENT, BUT, ANYWAYS...
>> SO THIS LADY WAS A WITCH?
>> YES, A WITCH. AND HER AND HER WARLOCK
SHOW UP AT MY PROPERTY.
AND THEY CAME TO THE PROPERTY.
>> THEY FOUND WHERE YOU LIVE?
>> YEAH. WELL, WE'RE HAVING A CHURCH BONFIRE.
MY MOTHER HAD PUT ON A GATHERING FOR THE CHURCH.
>> WAS THIS THE SAME CHURCH THAT YOU HAD GONE TO?
>> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> OKAY. OKAY.
SO SHE SHOWS UP A WEEK LATER WITH A WARLOCK.
>> WITH HER WARLOCK.
>> SO WHAT HAPPENS THERE?
>> SO I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I IT'S A LITTLE GRAPHIC.
IS THAT OKAY OR SHOULD I -
>> YES. YES.
ON THIS PLATFORM, IT'S OKAY.
MAYBE NOT OTHER PLATFORMS,
BUT YOU CAN TELL IT HERE.
>> IN A WORLD OF DARKNESS, REBECCA WEISS.
OKAY, SO WE'RE THERE, AND THIS LADY SHOWS UP
AND I'M LIKE, HEY.
AND SHE SHOWS UP WITH THIS GUY IN A LONG TRENCH COAT
DOING ALL THIS STUFF.
AND THEY BEGIN TO COME THERE AND SAY,
WE'RE HERE TO BASICALLY CONFRONT YOU.
AND I SAID, OKAY.
AND IT'S A LITTLE GROSS, A LITTLE -
A LITTLE CRASS AND VULGAR.
BUT THEY BEGIN TO BITE THEIR ARMS AND DRAW BLOOD.
AND THEY WERE TRYING TO GET BLOOD,
AND THEY WERE TRYING TO DRINK BLOOD,
AND THEY WERE DOING THESE THINGS TO INTIMIDATE
AND WHATEVER.
AND THEY WERE TRYING TO REALLY GET THIS THING GOING.
>> 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW THAT THE OCCULT AND WITCHCRAFT,
THAT'S HOW IT ALL OPERATES.
>> YEAH.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOING IT.
AND I WON'T GO INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DISGUSTING.
>> WERE THE OTHER CHURCHGOERS AT THE BONFIRE,
OR WERE YOU ALL LIKE OFF TO THE SIDE?
>> I MET THEM FIRST.
I RAN INTO THEM AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE FREAKED OUT BY THEM.
AND THEN I MET THEM OUTSIDE.
I GOT THEM OUT OF OUR HOUSE.
I SAID, YOU COME OUTSIDE AND, YOU KNOW,
SO I'M STILL YOUNG IN THE LORD.
I HAD A LOT OF -
>> WERE YOU 16?
>> I MUST HAVE BEEN 16, 17, PROBABLY 16.
>> DANG, YOU WERE YOUNG.
>> I WAS, YEAH.
AND, AS THEY WERE TALKING TO ME,
THEY BEGAN TO MAKE THREATENING THINGS LIKE,
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CURSE YOU,
WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.
AND, REBECCA, I WISH I COULD HAVE SAID
I WAS FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST AND FULL OF JOY,
BUT I JUST TOLD THIS GUY, I SAID,
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO?
I'M GOING TO KNOCK YOU OUT, BRO.
I SAID, I'M GOING TO PUNCH YOU SO HARD.
I SAID, I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU RIGHT TO YOUR KNEES
IF YOU DON'T GET OFF MY PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S HOW I GOT RID OF THEM.
>> OH, DID THEY EVER COME BACK?
>> NO.
>> OH MY GOODNESS, THAT'S FUNNY.
>> NOW, I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT
THAT'S HOW YOU HANDLE THOSE THINGS,
BUT ME BEING YOUNG AND REALLY DUMB,
THAT'S HOW I HANDLED IT.
>> WELL I MEAN, YOU WERE LIKE 16 OR 17.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. SUPER MACHO.
>> WHEN YOU WENT TO THE CEMETERY AND YOU CUT OFF,
I BELIEVE IN CUTTING THINGS,
BEING LED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT
AND CUTTING GENERATIONAL INIQUITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE SPIRITS,
EVEN FAMILIAR SPIRITS THAT CAN PASS THEMSELVES DOWN,
THAT GO FROM FAMILY MEMBER TO FAMILY MEMBER.
THAT'S ALL IN THE BIBLE.
AND SO I THINK MY QUESTION IS,
SO THE HOLY SPIRIT JUST LED YOU
TO CUTTING THOSE THINGS OFF.
CAN YOU SHARE WHAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS WERE?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
IT HAD TO DO WITH EVERYTHING FROM IMMORALITY,
HAD TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW,
JUST SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
HAD TO DO WITH, HONESTLY,
LIKE A SPIRIT OF DIVORCE
THAT WAS IN OUR FAMILY,
AND SO MANY PEOPLE, JUST VIOLENCE
AND REALLY CRAZY VIOLENT OUTBURSTS,
STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD REALLY
JUST DELIVERED ME OF THAT.
REALLY DELIVERED ME.
AND IT WAS AWESOME.
AND NOT THAT I, YOU KNOW, ACTED ON ANY OF THOSE THINGS,
BUT IT WAS SO IN THE LINEAGE
THAT THE LORD REALLY SET US FREE.
AND IT'S NOT IN OUR FAMILY TODAY AT ALL.
>> BECAUSE YOU WERE GOING TO END UP,
YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FAMILY NOW,
AND SO IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT YOU BREAK THAT STUFF OFF
BEFORE YOU HAD - BEFORE IT WOULD GO ON ANY FURTHER.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
I'LL TELL YOU
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE SO MUCH ABOUT,
LIKE DAYSTAR, WHICH YOU GUYS ALL DO,
IS IT'S SUCH A FAMILY-ORIENTATED SETTING,
AND OUR MINISTRY IS VERY SIMILAR.
LIKE, OUR KIDS WORK FOR US.
THEY'RE PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I'VE JUST SEEN THAT THAT DECISION,
THAT LINE IN THE SAND, THAT THE LORD BROUGHT SUCH FAVOR,
THAT TODAY OUR CHILDREN LOVE BEING WITH US.
EVEN MY DAUGHTER'S SPOUSE LOVES BEING WITH US.
>> OH, THAT'S THE BEST.
>> IT IS THE BEST.
AND YOU GUYS REALLY EXEMPLIFY THAT WELL HERE.
BUT SO THAT'S THE JOURNEY THAT
THE LORD TOOK ME ON.
AND THEN FROM THERE I BEGAN TO STEP FORWARD
WHERE I RAN INTO MORE AND MORE PROPHETS
FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
GOD BEGAN TO LEAD ME AND GUIDE ME THAT WAY.
>> SO YOU'RE LIKE ON A SPIRITUAL PILGRIMAGE?
>> I WAS ON A PILGRIMAGE.
>> NO, YOU WERE.
GOD WAS LIKE LINING YOUR STEPS UP.
AND SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE STORIES,
IF PEOPLE ARE LISTENING, WHERE IT'S LIKE,
WELL, I HAVE THIS GIFTING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO,
BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU JUST GOT INTO THE WORD,
HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,
AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU WERE OBEDIENT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND HE KIND OF JUST HAS LINED YOUR STEPS UP
EVER SINCE THEN.
>> WELL, HERE'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT PEOPLE MISS,
LIKE IN GIFTING OR ANYTHING,
IS YOU GET TO ADD A LOT OF DISCIPLINE, HARD WORK,
AND SERVANTHOOD.
AND SERVANTHOOD, IF I COULD SAY IT TO ANYBODY,
THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY,
I GOT THIS GIFT, WHAT DO I DO?
FIND A VISION AND SERVE THAT VISION
UNTIL ONE OF TWO THINGS HAPPENS.
EITHER THAT VISION BECOMES YOUR VISION,
OR GOD GIVES YOU YOUR OWN,
AND THEN THERE'S A BLESSING IN THAT.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, I DID THAT FOR 16 YEARS.
I CARRIED BAGS, I DID STUFF,
I WOULD GO WITH LEADERS ALL OVER THE WORLD,
JET LAG, STAND WITH THEM, YOU KNOW,
DO ANYTHING THEY WANTED.
EVERYTHING FROM IRONING THEIR CLOTHES
TO DRIVING THEIR CAR.
YOU DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS
AND GOD CAN BEGIN TO TRUST YOU.
SO I HAD -
>> BEING FAITHFUL IN THE LITTLE
>> YES, MA'AM.
>> AND BEING ABLE TO BE TRUSTED WITH MUCH.
>> YES, MA'AM.
I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AND DO STUFF EVERYWHERE
AND I WOULD SAY NO, NO, NO, NO,
BECAUSE I HAD A COMMITMENT TO A LEADER,
TO LEADERSHIP, TO REALLY DEVELOP IN THAT AREA.
AND I BELIEVED IT WAS IMPORTANT.
AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE I SERVED WERE REALLY TOUGH.
>> YEAH.
>> I MEAN, REALLY, REALLY TOUGH.
>> THAT'S WHERE YOU LEARN.
>> IT'S NOT FUN, BUT I MEAN -
AND THAT'S ALL THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE.
MY FAVORITE EXAMPLE IS DAVID AND SAUL.
I MEAN, HE WAS, SAUL WAS PRETTY CRAZY BY THE TIME
DAVID WAS SERVING HIM, BUT HE LEARNED
AND IT PREPARED HIM TO BE KING.
ONE OF THE, I MEAN, THE GREATEST KING OF ISRAEL.
SO HOW DID YOU KNOW WHO TO GO UNDER IN LEADERSHIP?
DID YOU FEEL LIKE GOD WAS JUST LEADING YOU THAT WAY,
AND THEN YOU FELT LIKE, OKAY,
THIS IS THE MAN I NEED TO BE SERVING?
YOU KNOW, WHAT I FOUND, REBECCA,
IS IF YOU SPEND COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF TIMES
PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT,
LOTS AND LOTS OF TIME, READ THE WORD,
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT, GO BACK AND FORTH.
AND WHAT BEGINS TO PRESENT ITSELF TO YOU,
IF YOU'RE IN THE SPIRIT, THE LORD WILL BEGIN
TO JUST OPEN UP TO YOU.
SO I HAD A PROPHET SHOW UP, HE'S IN HEAVEN TODAY.
I HAD A PROPHET SHOW UP
WHO HAPPENED TO BE MY WIFE'S FATHER.
AND SO HE SHOWED UP AND REALLY STARTED
TO DO MEETINGS.
AND THE FIRST MEETING HE EVER DID IN THIS CHURCH,
AND THERE'S ABOUT 800 PEOPLE IN IT,
HE GETS UP AND PREACHES, AND I'M LIKE VERY YOUNG.
I'M LIKE 20 YEARS OLD.
HE STARTS PREACHING AND MINISTERING AND PROPHESYING,
GIVES ME THIS PROPHETIC WORD.
HE GETS DONE GIVING ME A PROPHETIC WORD
AND THE FIRE ALARMS GO OFF IN THE BUILDING.
THE FIRE ALARMS WENT OFF AND THEY WENT ON AND ON
FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES AND DIDN'T STOP,
AND HE JUST KEPT PREACHING.
AND I'M TALKING IN A GYMNASIUM,
GYMNASIUM CHURCH, 800 PEOPLE,
FIRE ALARMS BLARING.
AS THEY GO OFF, A WOMAN JUMPS UP DEMONIZED,
STARTS SCREAMING IN THE MEETING
AND SAYS, I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS VESSEL OUT.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THESE PEOPLE OUT,
AND I'M GOING TO TAKE OUT ALL THESE PEOPLE.
I'M GOING TO KILL EVERYBODY AROUND ME.
AND ALL THIS STUFF HAPPENS.
AND HE WALKED OVER AND TOOK AUTHORITY OVER THAT,
SAT HER DOWN, LOOKED TO SOME PEOPLE NEXT TO HIM
AND COULD TELL WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE
AND SAID, WHY WOULD YOU THINK THIS?
AND WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT?
AND THEY BEGAN TO SCREAM OUT, LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS!
AND THE TRUE OFFICE OF THE PROPHET CAME IN THE ROOM.
AND THE FUNNY PART ABOUT THIS STORY IS, TOO,
SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE AREA IN TOWN THAT MORNING
HAD SAID, YOU KNOW,
WE'VE NEVER GONE TO A CHARISMATIC CHURCH BEFORE.
SO LET'S JUST PICK ONE AND LET'S GO AND LET'S SEE
HOW THEY DO IT OVER THERE.
AND THOSE PEOPLE SAT IN FRONT OF THIS WOMAN
THAT JUMPED UP WITH DEMONS WHILE THE FIRE ALARMS
ARE GOING OFF, AND HE'S PROPHESYING TO EVERYBODY.
AND THAT WAS THEIR FIRST EXPERIENCE
WITH THE CHARISMATIC CHURCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE TODAY,
BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FUNNY LITTLE CAVEAT
TO THE STORY.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE, REALLY,
WITH THE FIRST TIME SEEING THE OFFICE OF THE PROPHET
CALLING THINGS OUT,
DRAMATIC SCENARIOS.
AND I WENT ALL OVER THE WORLD WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL,
AND WE DID STADIUM MEETINGS IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES.
WE WORKED WITH PRESIDENTS AND PARLIAMENTARY LEADERS
AND, YOU KNOW, JUDGES AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
ATTORNEYS, NATIONAL ATTORNEYS.
AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE'D GO
AND GIVE THE WORD OF THE LORD, EVEN TO THE POINT
THAT IN THE HONDURAS ELECTION BACK IN 2006,
THERE WAS A TBN BROADCAST WE WERE ON,
AND HE STANDS UP WITH A MARKER AND A WHITEBOARD,
WHICH IS SOMETHING THE LORD HAS CALLED ME TO DO.
AND HE'S THERE, AND MANY PEOPLE LAID HANDS
ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND SAID,
THIS IS GOD'S CHOICE.
AND HE WENT THERE LIVE ON TELEVISION AND WROTE THE NAME
MEL ZELAYA ON A WHITEBOARD.
AND MEL ZELAYA WAS A LIBERAL CANDIDATE.
NOT SOMEBODY THAT WE WOULD HAVE CHOSEN.
BUT THE LORD SAID, HE WILL WIN
AND HE WILL WIN BY 13 POINTS,
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE NATION IS GOING TO HAVE
IN THIS SEASON.
AND SO HE SAID THAT AND MANY PEOPLE SAID,
NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT THEN THAT MAN WON BY 13 POINTS,
AND WE WENT BACK DOWN AND DID A STADIUM MEETING THERE
UNDER THE WELCOME OF THAT PRESIDENT.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO LEAD
MANY GANGS TO THE LORD.
WE WERE MINISTERING TO THEM.
BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF MENTORSHIP WE WERE UNDER
FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'D GO AROUND THE WORLD AND, YOU KNOW,
SOME OF IT WAS GOOD, SOME OF IT WAS REALLY INTENSE,
BUT IT HELPED.
>> WELL, WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
I WANT TO KEEP GOING.
SO YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK.
[ LAUGHTER ]
GO AHEAD.
>> OH, REBECCA, IT IS SO GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
WHAT A GREAT PODCAST, YOU DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.
IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE,
AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL TO GET THIS TIME WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND JUST ANY LAST WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING.
>> WELL, ON A BAD DAY, YOU'RE ANOINTED TO BE
THE BEST THERE IS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO SAY
AS WE WERE TALKING IS, YOU KNOW,
WHEN YOU FIND YOUR PEOPLE,
YOU'LL FIND YOUR CALLING.
AND THIS IS SO VITAL RIGHT NOW THAT PEOPLE
ARE RUNNING HERE, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE TRYING
TO GO TO PLACES WHERE THEY THINK IT'S SAFE.
LISTEN, YOU'VE GOT TO BE WHERE GOD'S CALLED YOU TO BE.
AND YOU'LL KNOW YOU'RE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE
OR YOUR TRIBE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SAY
THE WRONG THING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
NOR CAN YOU SAY THE RIGHT THING TO THE WRONG PEOPLE.
YOU GOT TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
YOU GOT TO LINE UP WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE,
AND YOU WILL KNOW YOUR CALLING
AND YOU WILL HIT YOUR DESTINY.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S MORE NECESSARY THAN EVER
THAT YOU BUILD THAT FAITH AND KNOW YOU'RE ANOINTED
FOR THESE DIFFICULT DAY WE'RE WALKING IN.
>> THAT'S SO GOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, JOSEPH.
>> WHAT AN HONOR.
>> AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO
THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.