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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: ON TODAY'S
EPISODE, I SIT DOWN WITH
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GRAYSON "THE PROFESSOR" BOUCHER.
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HE TALKS ABOUT HIS
TESTIMONY AND HOW HE WENT FROM
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BEING A TRAVELING
BASKETBALL TV STAR
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TO NOW A VIRAL YOUTUBE SENSATION
ALL WITHOUT COMPROMISING
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HIS BELIEFS.
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HE IS THE DEFINITION
OF NEVER GIVING UP.
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CHECK IT OUT.
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REBECCA LAMB WEISS:
HEY, GUYS.
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WELCOME TO
THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST
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AND I'M SUPER EXCITED TODAY
BECAUSE WE ARE JOINED WITH
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THE PROFESSOR AKA
GRAYSON BOUCHER.
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HE IS HERE.
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GRAYSON, TELL US
ABOUT YOURSELF.
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GRAYSON BOUCHER: HEY, THANKS
FOR HAVING ME.
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REBECCA: WAIT, LET ME
GIVE YOU THE
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LET ME PUT OUT
THE OFFICIAL TITLE.
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GRAYSON: SURE.
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REBECCA:
SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER
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AND GLOBAL BASKETBALL
ENTERTAINER BASED IN LA.
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I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE
YOU INTRO YOURSELF,
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AND I'M LIKE,
WAIT A SECOND.
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I GOT TO SHARE THE
TITLE OUT THERE.
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SO, GRAYSON, TELL
US ABOUT YOURSELF.
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GRAYSON: YEAH.
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SO, IT ALL GOES BACK TO
WHEN I WAS TWO YEARS OLD,
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STARTED PLAYING BASKETBALL,
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MY DAD'S PASSION FOR THE GAME
WORE OFF ON ME, AND, I REALIZED
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I WANTED TO PLAY
BASKETBALL FOR A LIVING
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WHEN I WAS IN THIRD GRADE.
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REBECCA: WOW.
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GRAYSON: YEAH.
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SO I'VE BEEN PLAYING THE
GAME FOR A LONG TIME,
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FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, MY
CONTENT'S PRIMARILY BASKETBALL,
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STREETBALL-STYLE OF CONTENT.
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SO IT'S BASKETBALL
BUT IT'S NOT THE NBA.
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BUT YEAH, I'VE BEEN
PLAYING THE GAME MY WHOLE LIFE
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AND BEEN FORTUNATE
ENOUGH TO BE AN INFLUENCER
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AND DO THIS THING FOR
ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW.
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BUT, YEAH,
STARTED YOUNG, YOU KNOW,
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I KNEW I WANTED TO PLAY
BASKETBALL FOR A LIVING
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WHILE I WAS IN
THIRD GRADE.
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REBECCA: THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.
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YOU KNOW, NOT MANY PEOPLE
CAN HAVE A CAREER
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JUST BASED OFF OF SOCIAL MEDIA
AND DOING THIS FOR 15 YEARS.
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THAT'S REALLY
SAYING SOMETHING.
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GRAYSON: YEAH, IT'S
BEEN A BLESSING.
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YOU KNOW, I THINK, I WAS
TOURING ACTUALLY UP UNTIL 2016,
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SO I STARTED PLAYING
PRO AT 18, STREET BALL.
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IT WAS CALLED
THE AND1 MIXTAPE TOUR .
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IT WAS LIKE ON ESPN.
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IT WAS AIRING MORE THAN
THE NBA AT A CERTAIN POINT
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FOR LIKE 5 OR 6 YEARS.
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REBECCA: OH, WOW.
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GRAYSON: AND IT WAS
REALLY GREAT.
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BUT COMPANY JUST GOT
BOUGHT OUT ONE TIME.
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SO THE SAME DAY I WAS ON THE
COVER OFSPORTS ILLUSTRATED ,
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THE SAME EXACT DAY,
SOMEBODY FROM CORPORATE
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TOLD US THAT THE COMPANY HAD
JUST BEEN BOUGHT OUT.
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SO AS I'M LOOKING AT THE COVER
OF THESPORTS ILLUSTRATED ,
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SAME MOMENT, IT WAS THE PINNACLE
OF THE WHOLE THING.
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AND AT 23 OR 24 YEARS OLD,
I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW
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WHAT THAT MEANT.
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SO I WAS LIKE, SO WE
STILL GET TO HOOP?
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AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YEAH.
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AND I WAS LIKE,
ALL RIGHT, COOL.
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SO SOUNDS GOOD.
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BUT THEN LIKE, NOTHING WAS
EVER THE SAME SINCE THAT MOMENT.
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AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I
STARTED WITH AND1
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IN '03 WHEN I WAS 18,
IT ENDED IN 2008,
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OUR ENDORSEMENT DEALS ENDED.
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AND SO THERE WAS
THAT STRETCH.
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SIX SEASONS ON ESPN.
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AND THEN IT JUST LIKE
ENDED OUT OF NOWHERE.
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AND YOU HAD TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT WAS NEXT.
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BUT DIGITAL WAS
NEXT FOR ME.
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BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL
SOME YEARS LATER.
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REBECCA: YEAH.
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SO I WANT TO GET
BACK INTO YOUR PAST.
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GRAYSON: SURE.
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REBECCA: SO YOU SAID YOU STARTED
PLAYING AT TWO?
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GRAYSON: TWO YEARS OLD. MY DAD
GOT ME A LARRY BIRD NERF HOOP,
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AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN THE FAMILY
LIKE MAKING BASKETS
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ON THIS NERF HOOP.
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SO, LIKE, BEING AN ENTERTAINER
THROUGH BASKETBALL WAS,
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LIKE, IN
ME SINCE I WAS LIKE TWO,
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LIKE, THIS WAS THE GIFT
AND THE CALLING FOR ME.
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SO, SO YEAH, IT WAS GREAT.
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AND THEN BY ABOUT THIRD GRADE,
YEAH, I WANTED TO MAKE THE NBA
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OR PLAY BALL
FOR A LIVING.
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AND I HAD JUST LIKE THE
MOST UNCONVENTIONAL ROUTE
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TO PLAYING PROFESSIONAL
BASKETBALL YOU COULD THINK OF.
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REBECCA: SHARE THAT WITH US.
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GRAYSON: SO MY THING WAS I NEVER
GOT QUITE THE OPPORTUNITY
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BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOOKED
WAY YOUNGER THAN I WAS.
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SO EVEN WHEN I WAS LIKE
16, 17 YEARS OLD,
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I LOOKED LIKE I WAS
EIGHT YEARS OLD.
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YEAH WHEN I LIKE WHEN I
WAS A FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL
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ON THE ROSTER,
I WAS 4'11", 85 POUNDS.
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REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.
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GRAYSON: YEAH.
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IT'S LIKE, WAIT, WHAT?
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PEOPLE ARE LIKE
LITERALLY A GRADE SCHOOLER.
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THAT'S WHAT I LOOKED LIKE
WHEN I WAS A FRESHMAN.
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REBECCA: THAT'D BE ROUGH.
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GRAYSON: IT WAS.
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AND I WAS A STARTER
ON A FRESHMAN TEAM.
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I PLAYED ON ALL THE AAU
TEAMS LEADING UP TO THAT.
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BUT THEN WHEN I GOT INTO
HIGH SCHOOL,
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IT WAS LIKE HARDER TO GET
AN OPPORTUNITY.
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EVEN THOUGH I HAD THE
SKILLS ON OFFENSE.
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DEFENSE WAS A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT BECAUSE I WAS SO SMALL
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AND I KIND OF LIKE
SHIED AWAY FROM CONTACT.
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AND BASKETBALL IS LIKE A
VERY HIGH-CONTACT SPORT,
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CONTRARY TO WHAT SOME
PEOPLE MIGHT THINK.
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REBECCA: YEAH.
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GRAYSON: SO COME JUNIOR YEAR I
GOT CUT FROM THE VARSITY TEAM
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AND THAT'S LIKE A
BIG HIT TO MY EGO.
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MY IDENTITY WAS JUST BALL.
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BALL IS LIFE, RIGHT?
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THAT WAS MY THING.
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SO I GOT HELD BACK
ON THE JV TEAM.
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I STILL DID GOOD ON JV
BUT, YOU KNOW,
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DIDN'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY
TO VARSITY.
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AND THEN MY PARENTS TRANSFERRED
ME TO A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL
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MY SENIOR YEAR MAJORITY
JUST FOR BASKETBALL.
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SO I GOT A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY.
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I GOT SECOND TEAM ALL STATE
ONE VOTE AWAY FROM MVP
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AND IT WAS GREAT.
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SO I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET
A BUNCH OF COLLEGE OFFERS
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AND LETTERS.
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RIGHT.
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BUT I GOT ZERO
AND SO.
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REBECCA: OH, NO.
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GRAYSON: BUT YOU KNOW, MY
ECOSYSTEM WAS SMALL COMING UP.
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YOU KNOW, A LOT OF
HOOPERS, THEY DON'T KNOW
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WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO
PLAY LIKE HOW GOOD
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YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE TO
PLAY COLLEGE BASKETBALL.
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IT'S KIND OF A MYSTERY.
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YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT
GETTING HIGH-LEVEL INFO,
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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
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SO I GOT NO OFFERS AND I
WENT AND TRIED OUT
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FOR THREE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AROUND THE STATE,
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AND I GOT CUT FROM ALL,
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EVEN THOUGH I'D HAVE
AMAZING SHOWINGS,
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YOU KNOW, BUT I STILL LOOKED
LIKE I WAS IN GRADE SCHOOL
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AT LIKE
18 YEARS OLD.
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REBECCA: WHAT WERE
YOUR SPECS THEN?
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HOW TALL?
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GRAYSON: PROBABLY 5'6", 5'7",
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ABOUT 115 POUNDS.
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SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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REBECCA: SO WHAT
POSITION WERE YOU?
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GRAYSON: POINT GUARD.
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THAT'S THE ONLY
OPTION, RIGHT?
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BEING SMALL.
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SO POINT GUARD.
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BUT I THINK EVEN THOUGH
LIKE ONE OF THE COLLEGES
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I REMEMBER I LIKE MADE EVERY
SHOT LIKE SEVEN THREES.
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WE WON EVERY GAME CROSSING
PEOPLE UP, DOING MY THING.
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BUT THE COACHES WERE
REAL LIKE ALPHA.
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AND THEY PLAY A DIFFERENT
STYLE OF BASKETBALL
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IN OREGON.
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IT WAS MORE LIKE OLD
SCHOOL, LIKE HOOSIERS,
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CONVENTIONAL
FOR B-BALL PEOPLE.
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THEY KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
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IT WAS LIKE KIND OF LIKE
THE WAY WHITE PEOPLE PLAYED.
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IT'S A LITTLE BIT DATED,
BUT IT CAN BE TO THE ADVANTAGE
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OF TEAMS THAT
DON'T HAVE AS MANY ATHLETES.
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SO THAT'S HOW I
PLAYED IN OREGON.
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SO LIKE MY STYLE WAS MORE
LIKE THE NBA OR LIKE STREETBALL,
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BUT DIDN'T
REALLY FIT THE MOLD.
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SO ULTIMATELY MY DAD, WHO
OWNED A JEWELRY STORE,
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HE WAS SELLING JEWELRY TO THE
LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE,
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THE PLACE I DIDN'T REALLY
WANT TO GO TO
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BECAUSE I WANTED TO MOVE OUT
FROM MY PARENTS'.
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HE PERSUADED THAT COACH TO GIVE
ME A SHOT TO PLAY ON THE TEAM,
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AND THE GUY
WAS NICE, NICE ENOUGH
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TO ACTUALLY
GIVE ME A TRYOUT.
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LIKE WHILE HE'S SELLING HIM
JEWELRY, HE'S PERSUADING HIM.
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REBECCA: GO, DAD.
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GRAYSON: I KNOW, SO MY DAD'S
THE ONLY REASON
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I GOT IN THE DOOR
TO PLAY COLLEGE BALL.
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THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE
ME REDSHIRT MY FIRST YEAR
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BECAUSE I WAS SO SMALL, THIS GUY
GOT TO PUT ON SOME MUSCLE.
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BUT THEN THREE OF THE GUARDS
GOT INJURED BEFORE THE SEASON,
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SO I HAD
TO END UP SUITING UP.
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REBECCA: WOW.
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GRAYSON: I SUITED UP AND I
PLAYED THREE MINUTES A GAME
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AND IF THE GAME IS CLOSE, I
DON'T EVEN GO IN THE GAME.
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SO THAT WAS MY COLLEGE
BASKETBALL EXPERIENCE.
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BUT DURING THIS TIME I
WAS LIKE AN AND1 FAN.
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I'M LIKE CULTURING
AND1 LIKE TO SCHOOL.
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I WEAR, YOU KNOW, NOW
IT'S COMMON TO WEAR
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BASKETBALL CLOTHES TO SCHOOL,
LIKE FOR STREETWEAR.
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I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS
THE FIRST ONE,
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ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE
TO DO THAT.
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LIKE I WOULD JUST WEAR A
NIKE HOOP OUTFIT TO SCHOOL
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OR LIKE BUTTON-UP PANTS
AND A T-SHIRT.
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REBECCA: YEAH.
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GRAYSON: SO I WAS CULTURING,
BUT IT WAS ALL AND1
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LIKE EVEN MY SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL,
IF YOU LOOK AT MY MIX,
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I'M WEARING AND1 SNEAKERS.
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REBECCA: REALLY?
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GRAYSON: YEAH.
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SO I GO TO TRY OUT.
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SO AND1 MIXTAPE TOUR WAS LIKE
THIS GLOBAL STREETBALL TOUR
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BLEW UP ON
THESE LIKE CULT, THESE VHS TAPES
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CALLED
THE AND1 MIX TAPES .
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AND THEY HAD LIKE A
GLOBAL CULT FOLLOWING.
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SO A HUGE FAN OF THIS JUST
AS MUCH AS I WAS THE NBA
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AND I WENT TO THEY WERE
HAVING THEY WERE GOING ON TOUR
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BUT BEFORE THEIR
ARENA GAME, THEY HAVE A TRYOUT
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IN THE PARKING LOT FOR LOCALS,
AND FROM THAT TRYOUT,
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THEY ONLY PICK LIKE 1 OR 2
PEOPLE TO COME INSIDE
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THE BUILDING THAT NIGHT AND
PLAY AGAINST TEAM AND1.
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SO I WENT AND JUST
TRIED OUT AS A FAN.
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I WAS GOING AS A FAN.
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I WAS JUST GOING TO THE GAME AS
A FAN TO WATCH MY IDOLS PLAY.
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BUT I STEPPED IN AND TRIED OUT
JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE
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HAVING A TRYOUT AND
LIKE WENT CRAZY.
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CROWD STARTED GOING CRAZY.
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WE'RE TALKING THESE
HIGHLIGHTS CROSSING PEOPLE UP,
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GETTING BUCKETS, AND
THEY ASKED ME TO COME
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INSIDE THE
BUILDING AND PLAY.
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AND SO NEXT THING I KNOW,
I'M GOING BACK AND FORTH
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WITH MY IDOL.
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YOU KNOW, MY IDOLS.
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YEAH, IN THIS BATTLE.
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AND THEN AFTER THAT GAME,
THEY'RE LIKE, WE WANT YOU
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TO COME ON TOUR.
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THUS THEY PICKED ME OUT OF LIKE
THREE GUYS, LIKE, WE WANT YOU.
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AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
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I'M LIKE, YO, YOU WANT ME?
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I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
THERE WAS A, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
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WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
00:07:59.232 --> 00:08:00.032
RIGHT?
00:08:00.132 --> 00:08:01.199
I WASN'T AWARE
OF THE TV SHOW.
00:08:01.299 --> 00:08:01.966
THEY PROBABLY TOLD ME.
00:08:02.066 --> 00:08:02.866
BUT I'M SO GREEN.
00:08:02.966 --> 00:08:05.199
I'M NOT, IT'S NOT
FULLY REGISTERING.
00:08:05.299 --> 00:08:07.200
SO THERE'S EVEN A CLIP
OF ME ON THE TV SHOW.
00:08:07.300 --> 00:08:08.400
THEY'RE LIKE, WE PICK YOU.
00:08:08.500 --> 00:08:11.200
AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, I
DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
00:08:11.300 --> 00:08:13.466
LIKE, FOR SURE.
00:08:13.566 --> 00:08:14.432
GRAYSON: I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
00:08:14.532 --> 00:08:15.932
REBECCA: WHAT YOU'RE LIKE,
SIGN ME UP.
00:08:16.032 --> 00:08:17.400
GRAYSON: YEAH, I DON'T
EVEN KNOW WHAT.
00:08:17.500 --> 00:08:18.600
REBECCA: SO YOU WENT INTO IT
NOT EVEN REALIZING
00:08:18.700 --> 00:08:19.766
THAT YOU WERE
GOING TO GET PICKED?
00:08:19.866 --> 00:08:20.999
GRAYSON: NO, NO, NO, NO, NO,
I WAS GOING THERE
00:08:21.099 --> 00:08:23.300
AS STRICTLY AS
A FAN.
00:08:23.400 --> 00:08:24.766
THEY HAD THE TRYOUTS
THE YEAR BEFORE.
00:08:24.866 --> 00:08:27.466
I ACTUALLY TRIED OUT, BUT
LIKE IT JUST ENDED THERE.
00:08:27.566 --> 00:08:28.933
THEY DIDN'T HAVE A REALITY
SHOW THAT THEY WERE LIKE
00:08:29.033 --> 00:08:30.599
DOCUMENTING ON THE SHOW.
00:08:30.699 --> 00:08:34.399
SO I ENDED UP GOING,
THEY MIMICSURVIVOR .
00:08:34.499 --> 00:08:37.332
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST
50 REALITY TV SHOWS EVER.
00:08:37.432 --> 00:08:39.599
SO LIKE THEY
COPIEDSURVIVOR .
00:08:39.699 --> 00:08:41.766
AND SO BASICALLY THERE WAS
THREE SPOTS ON THE TOUR
00:08:41.866 --> 00:08:46.433
AS A CONTESTANT AND EVERY
CITY, IF SOMEBODY TRIED OUT
00:08:46.533 --> 00:08:47.666
THE BEST PLAYER WHO
PLAYED IN THAT CITY
00:08:47.766 --> 00:08:49.966
IS GOING TO -- WOULD REPLACE
WHOEVER PLAYED THE WORST
00:08:50.066 --> 00:08:51.200
OUT OF THE THREE GUYS.
00:08:51.300 --> 00:08:51.933
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:08:52.033 --> 00:08:52.999
GRAYSON: YOU GO HOME.
00:08:53.099 --> 00:08:54.399
SO EVERY GAME IS CALLED
AN ELIMINATION GAME.
00:08:54.499 --> 00:08:56.699
REBECCA: WAIT, SO YOU WERE UP
AGAINST IT EVERY SINGLE TIME?
00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:57.566
EVERY CITY?
00:08:57.666 --> 00:08:58.366
GRAYSON: EVERY
LIKE 2 OR 3 GAMES,
00:08:58.466 --> 00:08:59.633
THEY HAVE AN
ELIMINATION GAME.
00:08:59.733 --> 00:09:00.266
REBECCA: OH, NO.
00:09:00.366 --> 00:09:01.300
AND YOU SURVIVED?
00:09:01.400 --> 00:09:01.999
GRAYSON: I SURVIVED.
00:09:02.099 --> 00:09:02.966
REBECCA: THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
00:09:03.066 --> 00:09:04.166
GRAYSON: THE WHOLE, THE
WHOLE SUMMER.
00:09:04.266 --> 00:09:06.399
SO IT COMES DOWN TO THE
VERY END OF THE SUMMER.
00:09:06.499 --> 00:09:08.232
REBECCA: OH, MY GOD,
I'D BE NERVOUS.
00:09:08.332 --> 00:09:09.366
YEAH.
00:09:09.466 --> 00:09:11.699
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A GAME
THAT CAME DOWN TO THE END
00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.066
OF THE SUMMER IN
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN.
00:09:14.166 --> 00:09:15.799
AND SO BEFORE THESE
ARENA GAMES, I WOULD GET
00:09:15.899 --> 00:09:18.366
A LITTLE BIT OF JITTERS
AND KIND OF NERVOUS.
00:09:18.466 --> 00:09:19.700
BUT I KNOW IT WAS MY GIFT
BECAUSE AS SOON AS
00:09:19.800 --> 00:09:22.566
THE JUMP BALL WENT UP AND I
RAN UP AND DOWN A COUPLE TIMES,
00:09:22.666 --> 00:09:23.999
I WOULD ALWAYS LIKE
NOT BE NERVOUS,
00:09:24.099 --> 00:09:26.666
LIKE IT DIDN'T MATTER WHETHER WE
WERE IN MADISON SQUARE GARDEN
00:09:26.766 --> 00:09:28.466
OR IN THE
PARK OR WHEREVER.
00:09:28.566 --> 00:09:30.700
SO WE COME DOWN TO THIS
LAST GAME AND I END UP
00:09:30.800 --> 00:09:33.032
HITTING A BUZZER SHOT
AND WE BEAT,
00:09:33.132 --> 00:09:34.233
WE BEAT TEAM AND1.
00:09:34.333 --> 00:09:36.033
AND THEY WERE LIKE
UNDEFEATED UNTIL THIS YEAR.
00:09:36.133 --> 00:09:36.566
REBECCCA: WHAT?!
00:09:36.666 --> 00:09:37.466
THAT'S WILD.
00:09:37.566 --> 00:09:38.800
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:09:38.900 --> 00:09:41.133
AND THEN THE NEXT GAME, THE
FINAL GAME FOR THE REALITY SHOW
00:09:41.233 --> 00:09:42.866
AND EVERYTHING,
I STILL DIDN'T THINK
00:09:42.966 --> 00:09:44.299
THERE WAS
NO WAY I WAS WINNING.
00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:47.432
THESE TWO OTHER DUDES WERE LIKE
PHENOMS THAT I WAS LIKE,
00:09:47.532 --> 00:09:48.599
COMPETING AGAINST.
00:09:48.699 --> 00:09:50.433
THEY COULD LIKE, DO A 360
WINDMILL BETWEEN THE LEGS,
00:09:50.533 --> 00:09:51.466
NOT LIKE BEST ATHLETES.
00:09:51.566 --> 00:09:53.066
SOME OF THE BEST
ATHLETES I'VE EVER SEEN.
00:09:53.166 --> 00:09:54.266
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:09:54.366 --> 00:09:56.266
GRAYSON: AND SO WE PLAYED A GAME
IN LINDEN, NEW JERSEY.
00:09:56.366 --> 00:09:57.699
STREET BALL IS FROM
THE HOOD, YOU KNOW,
00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:00.533
LIKE RUCKER PARK IS LIKE
THE MECCA OF STREETBALL.
00:10:00.633 --> 00:10:02.933
TRADITIONALLY, IT GOT
SO BIG THEY PLAYED NBA ARENAS.
00:10:03.033 --> 00:10:05.266
BUT FOR THE SHOW THEY'RE LIKE,
ALL RIGHT, YOU DID IT
00:10:05.366 --> 00:10:06.499
ON A COMMERCIAL.
00:10:06.599 --> 00:10:08.000
NOW CAN YOU DO
IT IN THE HOOD?
00:10:08.100 --> 00:10:10.433
AND SO THE FINAL GAME WE
PLAYED IN THE HOOD
00:10:10.533 --> 00:10:11.332
AND THAT WAS NEW FOR ME.
00:10:11.432 --> 00:10:12.233
RIGHT.
00:10:12.333 --> 00:10:14.099
BUT I HAPPENED TO
HAVE A GREAT GAME.
00:10:14.199 --> 00:10:14.933
AND THEN THAT'S HOW I
WON MY CONTRACT WITH AND1.
00:10:15.033 --> 00:10:15.766
REBECCA: WOW.
00:10:15.866 --> 00:10:16.999
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:10:17.099 --> 00:10:18.333
REBECCA: SO I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE
WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
00:10:18.433 --> 00:10:21.666
ABOUT YOUR STORY IS YOU DIDN'T
GIVE UP BECAUSE YOU HAD SETBACKS
00:10:21.766 --> 00:10:23.766
AND YOU COULD
HAVE JUST TAKEN THAT, YOU KNOW,
00:10:23.866 --> 00:10:25.499
FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE,
OH, YOU'RE TOO SMALL.
00:10:25.599 --> 00:10:26.899
YOU'RE NEVER
GOING TO PLAY.
00:10:26.999 --> 00:10:28.100
YOU COULD HAVE TAKEN YOUR
COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.066
AND BEEN LIKE, I
BARELY GOT TO PLAY.
00:10:30.166 --> 00:10:31.399
BUT YOU DID NEVER GAVE UP.
00:10:31.499 --> 00:10:33.200
AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED
00:10:33.300 --> 00:10:35.300
IS YOU
PRACTICED REALLY HARD.
00:10:35.400 --> 00:10:36.400
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:10:36.500 --> 00:10:38.099
REBECCA: AND SEE, THAT SAYS
SOMETHING, THOUGH,
00:10:38.199 --> 00:10:40.932
BECAUSE YOU HAD A GIFT, BUT YOU
ALSO HAD DISCIPLINE.
00:10:41.032 --> 00:10:43.733
AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
WORD BECAUSE IF YOU GAVE UP
00:10:43.833 --> 00:10:45.133
AND IF YOU WEREN'T
DISCIPLINED,
00:10:45.233 --> 00:10:47.066
YOU WOULDN'T BE SITTING IN
THIS POSITION TODAY,
00:10:47.166 --> 00:10:48.799
YOU WOULDN'T BE
WHERE YOU'RE AT.
00:10:48.899 --> 00:10:52.932
GRAYSON: NO, AND I THINK
WHAT I TELL HOOPERS TODAY
00:10:53.032 --> 00:10:54.466
IS, I DID IT MORE.
00:10:54.566 --> 00:10:56.399
I DID IT JUST OUT OF THE LOVE
AND THE PASSION FOR THE GAME,
00:10:56.499 --> 00:10:57.999
MORESO THAN
HAVING THE BLUEPRINT
00:10:58.099 --> 00:10:59.799
OF HOW TO BE A PRO
OR WHATEVER.
00:10:59.899 --> 00:11:01.366
I JUST,
THAT'S ALL I KNEW.
00:11:01.466 --> 00:11:03.966
IT WAS LIKE MY FUN OUTLET,
LIKE, SO I TELL PEOPLE,
00:11:04.066 --> 00:11:06.766
LIKE HAVING A, A LOVE FOR
THE GAME AND A PASSION
00:11:06.866 --> 00:11:09.999
AND LIKE IMAGINATION IS
ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT.
00:11:10.099 --> 00:11:11.433
EVEN THOUGH KNOWLEDGE
IS IMPORTANT,
00:11:11.533 --> 00:11:13.166
IT'S ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT
JUST TO LOVE IT,
00:11:13.266 --> 00:11:16.499
BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO
PUT THE TIME IN NECESSARY,
00:11:16.599 --> 00:11:18.466
ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEBODY LIKE
MYSELF WHO'S LIKE MAJORITY
00:11:18.566 --> 00:11:20.733
OF PEOPLE, YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO BE 6'8",
00:11:20.833 --> 00:11:21.333
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:11:21.433 --> 00:11:23.299
6'8" BUFF.
00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:24.966
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW,
MAKE THE LEAGUE
00:11:25.066 --> 00:11:26.266
JUST OFF GENETICS.
00:11:26.366 --> 00:11:27.733
AND EVEN THEN THOSE PEOPLE STILL
GOT TO PUT IN THE WORK, TOO.
00:11:27.833 --> 00:11:30.066
BUT ESPECIALLY MOST OF US
WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE
00:11:30.166 --> 00:11:31.666
THAT ATHLETICALLY GIFTED.
00:11:31.766 --> 00:11:33.966
SO IT WAS REALLY BECAUSE
I JUST LOVED THE GAME.
00:11:34.066 --> 00:11:35.066
REBECCA: YEAH, YEAH.
00:11:35.166 --> 00:11:36.099
BUT YOU WERE
CONSISTENT TOO.
00:11:36.199 --> 00:11:37.366
GRAYSON: BUT IT'S
A GOD-GIVEN PASSION, THOUGH,
00:11:37.466 --> 00:11:38.599
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
00:11:38.699 --> 00:11:40.766
I THINK AND I DON'T THINK
EVERYBODY STUMBLES ON TO THAT.
00:11:40.866 --> 00:11:41.832
RIGHT.
00:11:41.932 --> 00:11:43.533
BECAUSE LIKE, I THINK WE
CAN FALL MYTH TO LIKE
00:11:43.633 --> 00:11:45.332
WHATEVER YOU LOVE
MOST IS YOUR CALLING.
00:11:45.432 --> 00:11:46.399
AND IT'S NOT
ALWAYS THE CASE.
00:11:46.499 --> 00:11:47.099
RIGHT.
00:11:47.199 --> 00:11:48.466
BUT MINE HAPPENED TO BE.
00:11:48.566 --> 00:11:51.266
WHAT I LOVE MOST WAS MY
CALLING, AT LEAST WHILE
00:11:51.366 --> 00:11:53.299
I CAN STILL BE ACTIVE
IN BASKETBALL.
00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:54.999
REBECCA: YEAH, AND I WANTED
TO TRANSITION TO THAT.
00:11:55.099 --> 00:11:58.032
SO WHAT WAS GOD
FOR YOU GROWING UP?
00:11:58.132 --> 00:11:59.800
AND THEN I WANT YOU TO
SHARE YOUR TESTIMONY.
00:11:59.900 --> 00:12:00.966
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:12:01.066 --> 00:12:07.700
SO FOR ME, MY PARENTS PUT
ME IN CHRISTIAN PRESCHOOL.
00:12:07.800 --> 00:12:10.700
MY PARENTS, BOTH OF MY PARENTS'
PARENTS WERE CHRISTIAN.
00:12:10.800 --> 00:12:11.833
REBECCA: OKAY.
00:12:11.933 --> 00:12:14.599
GRAYSON: SO THEY PUT ME IN A
CHRISTIAN PRESCHOOL.
00:12:14.699 --> 00:12:16.666
AND SO I HEARD ABOUT
CHRIST AT A VERY YOUNG AGE.
00:12:16.766 --> 00:12:18.166
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE
YOUNG, I DON'T KNOW,
00:12:18.266 --> 00:12:20.700
IT WAS LIKE SANTA, SANTA,
THE TOOTH FAIRY, JESUS.
00:12:20.800 --> 00:12:21.766
ALL LIKE THIS.
00:12:21.866 --> 00:12:22.966
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
00:12:23.066 --> 00:12:23.999
AND THEN, LIKE --
00:12:24.099 --> 00:12:24.899
REBECCA: IT DIDN'T,
LIKE, FULLY REGISTER.
00:12:24.999 --> 00:12:25.766
GRAYSON: NO, NOT.
00:12:25.866 --> 00:12:27.400
AND NOT EVEN
WHEN I WAS A SENIOR.
00:12:27.500 --> 00:12:30.500
THEY PUT ME IN ANOTHER
CHRISTIAN SCHOOL MY SENIOR YEAR.
00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:31.499
SO IT WAS LIKE PRESCHOOL.
00:12:31.599 --> 00:12:34.666
AND IT'S LIKE THE
BEGINNING OF SCHOOL
00:12:34.766 --> 00:12:36.299
AND THE END.
00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:37.633
CHRISTIAN HIGH SCHOOL.
00:12:37.733 --> 00:12:38.899
SO I REMEMBER BEING REMINDED OF
ALL THE THINGS I WOULD HEAR
00:12:38.999 --> 00:12:41.200
BECAUSE LIKE, WE HAD A CHAPEL,
JUST LIKE IN PRESCHOOL,
00:12:41.300 --> 00:12:42.766
I HAD A
CHAPEL, KINDERGARTEN,
00:12:42.866 --> 00:12:43.633
PRESCHOOL AND
KINDERGARTEN.
00:12:43.733 --> 00:12:44.700
I HAD A CHAPEL.
00:12:44.800 --> 00:12:45.833
SO WE'D DO THAT,
00:12:45.933 --> 00:12:47.332
YOU KNOW, AT
CHRISTIAN SCHOOL.
00:12:47.432 --> 00:12:48.466
SO I WAS BEING REMINDED
OF ALL THE SAME THINGS.
00:12:48.566 --> 00:12:51.433
I REMEMBER ACTUALLY ASKED
MY HIGH SCHOOL TEAMMATE
00:12:51.533 --> 00:12:55.333
IN BIBLE CLASS, I REMEMBER,
I REMEMBER THIS VIVIDLY.
00:12:55.433 --> 00:12:57.999
I WAS LIKE, SO IS LIKE JESUS,
LIKE REAL,
00:12:58.099 --> 00:12:59.066
YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:12:59.166 --> 00:13:01.133
I LOOKED AT HIM AND HE
WAS LIKE, WAIT, WHAT?
00:13:01.233 --> 00:13:03.733
AND I WAS LIKE,
YEAH, HE'S REAL?
00:13:03.833 --> 00:13:06.566
HE'S LIKE, I THINK SO,
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK SO.
00:13:06.666 --> 00:13:08.366
AND LIKE, IT WAS FUNNY
BECAUSE HE WAS CHRISTIAN, RIGHT?
00:13:08.466 --> 00:13:09.999
HE CAME FROM
CHRISTIAN, THE WHOLE.
00:13:10.099 --> 00:13:11.499
HE PROBABLY UNDERSTOOD
IT, BUT MAYBE HE WAS
00:13:11.599 --> 00:13:13.466
EMBARRASSED TO BE LIKE
FOR SURE OR WHATEVER.
00:13:13.566 --> 00:13:14.666
YOU KNOW, WHEN
YOU'RE YOUNG.
00:13:14.766 --> 00:13:16.999
SO THAT'S THE MOST I
EVER THOUGHT INTO IT.
00:13:17.099 --> 00:13:19.733
REBECCA: SO YOU NEVER REALLY GOT
THE FULL GOSPEL JUST LAID OUT?
00:13:19.833 --> 00:13:22.866
GRAYSON: NO, I DID, BUT YOU
KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT
00:13:22.966 --> 00:13:25.299
GIRLS AND BASKETBALL,
LIKE, I WAS LIKE,
00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:26.533
REBECCA: IT'S NOT REALLY
ON THE HORIZON.
00:13:26.633 --> 00:13:27.600
GRAYSON: YEAH, EXACTLY.
00:13:27.700 --> 00:13:29.166
SO I DON'T THINK IT
FULLY I FULLY WAS ENGAGED
00:13:29.266 --> 00:13:30.299
EVEN THOUGH I HEARD IT.
00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.166
I WAS LIKE, OH, MAYBE
IT'S LIKE A BELIEF.
00:13:32.266 --> 00:13:33.566
LIKE THEY JUST
WANT TO BELIEVE IT.
00:13:33.666 --> 00:13:35.299
IT'S LIKE GOOD LIFESTYLE OR
SOMETHING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:36.199
A LOT OF PEOPLE
THINK THAT.
00:13:36.299 --> 00:13:36.900
RIGHT?
00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:37.800
JUST CULTURALLY.
00:13:37.900 --> 00:13:39.533
SO THAT'S HOW
I LOOKED AT IT.
00:13:39.633 --> 00:13:42.666
AND THEN LATER, AS I WENT
THROUGH AND1, YOU KNOW,
00:13:42.766 --> 00:13:43.999
IT JUST ENDED
OUT OF NOWHERE.
00:13:44.099 --> 00:13:46.299
AND LIKE ME AND MY TEAMMATES,
WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.
00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.766
I KNOW FOR MYSELF, MOST OF
US PROBABLY WENT BROKE,
00:13:48.866 --> 00:13:49.366
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
00:13:49.466 --> 00:13:50.966
LIKE, I KNOW I DID.
00:13:51.066 --> 00:13:54.066
AND SO, I THINK THAT WAS
NECESSARY BECAUSE OUR LIFE
00:13:54.166 --> 00:13:58.099
WAS SO FAST-PACED AND
GETTING SO MUCH MONEY
00:13:58.199 --> 00:14:01.699
AND A-LIST-LEVEL FAME, AND WE'RE
ON ESPN LIKE 50 TIMES A WEEK.
00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.099
THAT'D BE LIKE BEING ON NETFLIX
ON THE RANKED IN THE TOP TEN,
00:14:05.199 --> 00:14:05.933
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
00:14:06.033 --> 00:14:08.933
RANKED SO, TO HEAR.
00:14:09.033 --> 00:14:10.299
YEAH, TO HEAR FROM GOD.
00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.533
I THINK LIKE, I NEEDED
THAT HUMBLE MOMENT,
00:14:12.633 --> 00:14:13.566
REBECCA: MOST OF US DO.
00:14:13.666 --> 00:14:14.600
GRAYSON: THAT
EGO-STRIKING MOMENT.
00:14:14.700 --> 00:14:15.833
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:14:15.933 --> 00:14:17.299
GRAYSON: AND THEN, IRONICALLY,
ACTUALLY CAME TO CHRIST
00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.900
BECAUSE MY CLOSEST FRIEND,
HIS NAME IS ESCALADE.
00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:21.166
HE PLAYED ON THE
TOUR WITH ME.
00:14:21.266 --> 00:14:23.399
HE WAS 6'9",
500 POUNDS.
00:14:23.499 --> 00:14:25.466
HE ACTUALLY HAD A HEART
ATTACK, AND HE DIED.
00:14:25.566 --> 00:14:28.266
AND I RECEIVED CHRIST
AT HIS FUNERAL.
00:14:28.366 --> 00:14:32.666
YEAH, SO VERY
UNLIKELY SITUATION.
00:14:32.766 --> 00:14:33.632
YEAH.
00:14:33.732 --> 00:14:34.333
REBECCA: WHAT WAS THAT
MOMENT FOR YOU?
00:14:34.433 --> 00:14:35.633
LIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK?
00:14:35.733 --> 00:14:38.066
DO YOU THINK IT WAS JUST NOT
ANTICIPATING YOUR FRIEND GOING
00:14:38.166 --> 00:14:41.033
AND KIND OF LIKE ETERNITY
COMING INTO YOUR VIEWSCREEN?
00:14:41.133 --> 00:14:42.399
GRAYSON: YEAH, EXACTLY.
00:14:42.499 --> 00:14:44.733
LIKE I DON'T THINK I EVER REALLY
ASKED, LIKE IF I THOUGHT ABOUT,
00:14:44.833 --> 00:14:46.166
LIKE,
BIG QUESTIONS OF LIFE.
00:14:46.266 --> 00:14:48.799
THEY WERE LIKE, ULTRA
INQUISITIVE AND I THINK
00:14:48.899 --> 00:14:50.433
IN MY MIND I WOULD THINK,
LIKE, YOU COULDN'T REALLY KNOW
00:14:50.533 --> 00:14:52.699
CONCRETE TRUTH, RIGHT.
00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:54.066
LIKE THERE'S
NO WAY TO KNOW.
00:14:54.166 --> 00:14:55.399
SO LIKE, WHO CARES.
00:14:55.499 --> 00:14:57.432
THAT WAS KIND OF MY
MINDSET, I THINK.
00:14:57.532 --> 00:15:00.766
AND THEN YEAH, I STARTED ASKING
MYSELF BIGGER QUESTIONS OF LIFE.
00:15:00.866 --> 00:15:04.366
LIKE AFTER GOING BROKE AND
TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT
00:15:04.466 --> 00:15:08.166
AND THEN LIKE TRAGEDY
AND GOD WAS WORKING ON ME ALSO,
00:15:08.266 --> 00:15:11.400
I WAS PLAYING IN
A CHURCH LEAGUE AT THE CHURCH,
00:15:11.500 --> 00:15:12.700
THIS CHURCH
WAS CLOSE TO MY HOUSE.
00:15:12.800 --> 00:15:14.299
I WAS PLAYING
IN THIS LEAGUE.
00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:17.500
AND THEN, LIKE THE ELDER
OR THE LEADER OF THE TEAM,
00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:18.766
YOU KNOW, IT'S AN
OUTREACH LEAGUE, RIGHT?
00:15:18.866 --> 00:15:21.166
SO HE INVITED US TO CHURCH, BUT
I JUST WENT TO BE POLITE,
00:15:21.266 --> 00:15:22.266
YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:15:22.366 --> 00:15:23.866
I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT,
GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:15:23.966 --> 00:15:25.832
SO I'LL JUST GO
AND LIKE, LISTEN.
00:15:25.932 --> 00:15:27.932
AND KIND OF REMINDED ME OF
HIGH SCHOOL A LITTLE BIT.
00:15:28.032 --> 00:15:30.233
WASN'T FULLY ENGAGED, BUT
KIND OF BEEN ASKING MYSELF
00:15:30.333 --> 00:15:31.600
SOME BIGGER QUESTIONS.
00:15:31.700 --> 00:15:32.699
SO IT DID INTEREST ME MORE THAN
LIKE WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL
00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.299
OR WHATEVER.
00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.833
AND THEN THERE WAS A BUNCH OF
THINGS LEADING UP TO THAT MOMENT
00:15:36.933 --> 00:15:38.466
WHERE GOD WAS
KIND OF LIKE LEADING ME
00:15:38.566 --> 00:15:40.999
AND THEN LIKE THAT FUNERAL
I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE LIKE
00:15:41.099 --> 00:15:42.666
ULTRA KNOWLEDGE OF THE
SCRIPTURE OR ANYTHING,
00:15:42.766 --> 00:15:45.032
BUT I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS
THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
00:15:45.132 --> 00:15:46.466
AND THEN I WAS REALLY
LOCKED IN BY THE TIME
00:15:46.566 --> 00:15:48.500
I WENT BACK TO CHURCH AND
HAD A FULL TRANSFORMATION
00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:49.433
AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
00:15:49.533 --> 00:15:50.533
REBECCA: TALK ABOUT THAT.
00:15:50.633 --> 00:15:51.466
SO YOU GET SAVED
AT THE FUNERAL
00:15:51.733 --> 00:15:54.133
AND THEN YOU GET PLUGGED IN
AT A CHURCH AFTERWARDS?
00:15:54.233 --> 00:15:55.399
GRAYSON: YEAH, EXACTLY.
00:15:55.499 --> 00:15:57.699
AND I KIND OF ALREADY WAS,
THROUGH THE BASKETBALL MINISTRY.
00:15:57.799 --> 00:15:58.399
REBECCA: OH, SO IT WAS
THE SAME CHURCH.
00:15:58.499 --> 00:15:59.166
GRAYSON: SAME CHURCH.
00:15:59.266 --> 00:15:59.966
YEAH.
00:16:00.066 --> 00:16:00.433
REBECCA: OH, THAT'S AWESOME.
00:16:00.533 --> 00:16:01.733
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:16:01.833 --> 00:16:03.266
IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE LIKE
15 MINUTES FROM WHERE I LIVE.
00:16:03.366 --> 00:16:06.333
SO I STARTED HANGING OUT
WITH LIKE JUST MAJORITY PEOPLE,
00:16:06.433 --> 00:16:08.066
THE, THE CHURCH,
YOU KNOW, IT SWITCHED UP
00:16:08.166 --> 00:16:09.199
MY WHOLE FRIEND CIRCLE.
00:16:09.299 --> 00:16:10.266
I THINK IT WAS REALLY
IMPORTANT, BUT IT WAS JUST
00:16:10.366 --> 00:16:12.366
KIND OF LIKE OBVIOUS
THAT THAT WAS THE MOVE.
00:16:12.466 --> 00:16:13.733
LIKE THE ONE SIDE OF
FRIENDS ARE PARTYING.
00:16:13.833 --> 00:16:17.166
THE HOLLYWOOD PARTY ON MONDAY,
WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, YOU KNOW.
00:16:17.266 --> 00:16:18.366
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:16:18.466 --> 00:16:19.066
GRAYSON: AND THEN MY OTHER
FRIENDS ARE LIKE LOCKED IN
00:16:19.166 --> 00:16:19.999
AS BELIEVERS.
00:16:20.099 --> 00:16:22.266
IT JUST FELT LIKE
A MORE PURE CIRCLE.
00:16:22.366 --> 00:16:24.200
AND I HAD A WAY BETTER FRAME OF
MIND HANGING OUT WITH THEM,
00:16:24.300 --> 00:16:25.833
SO THAT WAS
MY MINDSET AT THE TIME.
00:16:25.933 --> 00:16:26.866
BUT THAT WAS
LIKE NOT KNOWING.
00:16:26.966 --> 00:16:29.433
IT WAS LIKE WE WERE
SUPPOSED TO DO.
00:16:29.533 --> 00:16:31.532
SO YEAH, MADE SOME GOOD
CHOICES IN THAT AREA AND THEN,
00:16:31.632 --> 00:16:35.000
YEAH, I WAS IN A
BIBLE STUDY AND JUST LOCKED IN
00:16:35.100 --> 00:16:38.799
AND JUST TIME FOR A NEW SEASON
OF LIFE AT THAT TIME.
00:16:38.899 --> 00:16:40.666
YEAH.
00:16:40.766 --> 00:16:42.100
REBECCA: YEAH. AND DID YOU
LEARN, LIKE, THROUGH THE CHURCH,
00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.466
HOW TO HAVE YOUR OWN PERSONAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD?
00:16:44.566 --> 00:16:45.199
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:16:45.299 --> 00:16:46.533
FOR SURE.
00:16:46.633 --> 00:16:49.200
AND I THINK, LIKE, EVEN AFTER
COMING BACK FROM THE FUNERAL,
00:16:49.300 --> 00:16:51.299
I WAS DIGGING IN
RIGHT AWAY, LIKE I TALKED TO --
00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:52.566
REBECCA: YOU HAD LIKE, A HUNGER.
00:16:52.666 --> 00:16:53.333
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:16:53.433 --> 00:16:54.300
CAJUDA LED
MY BIBLE STUDY.
00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:55.066
HE WAS ACTUALLY,
LIKE, MY MENTOR.
00:16:55.166 --> 00:16:56.333
I JUST MADE HIM MY MENTOR.
00:16:56.433 --> 00:16:57.666
LIKE, AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW,
LIKE, ASK HIM
00:16:57.766 --> 00:17:00.432
A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
00:17:00.532 --> 00:17:01.866
YEAH, EVEN MY FRIENDS,
I WAS HANGING AROUND.
00:17:01.966 --> 00:17:03.633
THEY WERE ENCOURAGING US.
00:17:03.733 --> 00:17:04.866
SO.
00:17:04.966 --> 00:17:06.532
SO YEAH, I THINK, LIKE,
THE COMMUNITY HELPED ME A LOT.
00:17:06.632 --> 00:17:07.399
RIGHT.
00:17:07.499 --> 00:17:08.466
LIKE WHO I WAS
SPENDING TIME WITH
00:17:08.566 --> 00:17:10.299
AND WHO I WAS
ASKING QUESTIONS WITH.
00:17:10.399 --> 00:17:12.400
AND THEN BEING MORE
ENGAGED WHEN I GO TO CHURCH,
00:17:12.500 --> 00:17:14.433
TRYING TO LEARN
EVERYTHING I CAN ON THE INTERNET
00:17:14.533 --> 00:17:16.166
OR CREDIBLE SOURCES.
00:17:16.266 --> 00:17:18.033
YEAH, STUFF LIKE THAT.
00:17:18.133 --> 00:17:19.199
SO YEAH.
00:17:19.299 --> 00:17:20.366
REBECCA: AND I THINK
THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT WORD,
00:17:20.466 --> 00:17:22.933
IS THAT WE DO BECOME
LIKE THE PEOPLE WE ARE AROUND,
00:17:23.033 --> 00:17:24.199
AND WE HAVE TO
BE MINDFUL ABOUT
00:17:24.299 --> 00:17:26.166
WHO WE CHOOSE
TO HANG OUT WITH.
00:17:26.266 --> 00:17:27.600
AND, YOU KNOW,
YOU REALLY WERE SET UP
00:17:27.700 --> 00:17:28.399
IN THAT MOMENT.
00:17:28.499 --> 00:17:29.233
GOD.
00:17:29.333 --> 00:17:30.399
AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.
00:17:30.499 --> 00:17:33.500
HE PURSUES ALL OF US AND
HE KNOWS THAT PERFECT MOMENT
00:17:33.600 --> 00:17:35.132
WHEN WE'RE GOING
TO BE THE MOST ABLE
00:17:35.232 --> 00:17:38.266
TO RECEIVE THE GOSPEL AND
MAKE THAT DECISION, YOU KNOW,
00:17:38.366 --> 00:17:39.599
SAME EXACT
THING FOR ME.
00:17:39.699 --> 00:17:42.966
GOD HAD BEEN WORKING ON ME
AND IN THE RIGHT PLACE
00:17:43.066 --> 00:17:45.600
AT THE RIGHT TIME, YOU KNOW,
REVEALED HIMSELF TO ME,
00:17:45.700 --> 00:17:46.999
AND I MADE THAT DECISION.
00:17:47.099 --> 00:17:49.266
AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THOSE
CONSCIOUS CHOICES,
00:17:49.366 --> 00:17:50.399
BECAUSE WHEN YOU
FIRST GET SAVED,
00:17:50.499 --> 00:17:51.766
I THINK YOU'RE IN
A VERY VULNERABLE PLACE.
00:17:51.866 --> 00:17:54.833
I THINK IT'S EASY TO SLIP BACK
INTO THE WAYS OF THE WORLD.
00:17:54.933 --> 00:17:57.333
AND SO YOU HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS
ABOUT WHO YOU'RE AROUND,
00:17:57.433 --> 00:17:59.000
HOW YOU'RE
SPENDING YOUR TIME.
00:17:59.100 --> 00:18:00.699
GRAYSON: YEAH. AND I THINK
EVEN FOREVER.
00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:01.266
RIGHT.
00:18:01.366 --> 00:18:02.399
IT'S STILL HARD.
00:18:02.499 --> 00:18:03.700
IT'S STILL EASY BECAUSE
EVEN, LIKE, FOR ME, LIKE,
00:18:03.800 --> 00:18:05.166
NOW I'M IN THIS SEASON WHERE I'M
TRYING TO DO MORE OF THESE,
00:18:05.266 --> 00:18:07.299
BE MORE INTENTIONAL WITH DOING
LIKE MINISTRY EVENTS,
00:18:07.399 --> 00:18:09.666
LIKE I HADN'T DONE ONE
MINISTRY EVENT SINCE COVID
00:18:09.766 --> 00:18:12.099
AND I USED TO DO LIKE
AT LEAST FIVE A YEAR
00:18:12.199 --> 00:18:13.366
OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW,
00:18:13.466 --> 00:18:16.366
JUST USE MY PLATFORM FOR
GOD, LIKE DIRECTLY.
00:18:16.466 --> 00:18:19.766
AND THEN EVEN NOW,
LIKE, I'M STILL TRYING TO LIKE
00:18:19.866 --> 00:18:20.999
YOU CAN GET IN,
SEE, I GET SEASONS
00:18:21.099 --> 00:18:23.632
WHERE I GET SPREAD TOO THIN
AND I BURN OUT.
00:18:23.732 --> 00:18:28.533
SO NOW I'M TRYING TO, LIKE, GET
BACK TO MANAGING MY TIME HEALTHY
00:18:28.633 --> 00:18:31.033
AND BEING MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT
READING THE WORD.
00:18:31.133 --> 00:18:34.033
AND SO IT'S EASY TO STRAY
AWAY JUST IN GENERAL,
00:18:34.133 --> 00:18:35.699
ESPECIALLY WHEN
YOU'RE FIRST COMING.
00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:37.366
I KNOW WHAT YOU
MEANT BY THAT.
00:18:37.466 --> 00:18:38.732
BUT LIKE, FOREVER.
00:18:38.832 --> 00:18:39.400
REBECCA: THAT'S A GOOD
WORD TOO, THOUGH.
00:18:39.500 --> 00:18:40.299
IT'S CONSISTENT.
00:18:40.399 --> 00:18:41.433
YEAH, YOU HAVE TO BE.
00:18:41.533 --> 00:18:44.366
AND YOU KNOW, YOU THE
THANK GOODNESS THAT IF WE
00:18:44.466 --> 00:18:46.133
GET SOMEWHAT OFF-TRACK, WE
CAN REPENT AND TURN BACK
00:18:46.233 --> 00:18:47.166
AND GET BACK ON TRACK.
00:18:47.266 --> 00:18:49.432
IF WE GET BUSY, WE LEARN
TO MOVE AT HIS PACE.
00:18:49.532 --> 00:18:51.632
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME
SEASONS ARE BUSIER THAN OTHERS.
00:18:51.732 --> 00:18:54.033
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE
HAVE TO BE LED BY THE SPIRIT
00:18:54.133 --> 00:18:56.533
AND UNDERSTAND, OKAY, THIS IS
WHAT THIS SEASON LOOKS LIKE.
00:18:56.633 --> 00:18:58.699
THIS IS WHAT THIS OTHER
SEASON LOOKS LIKE.
00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.033
AND SPEAKING OF
CHANGING SEASONS.
00:19:01.133 --> 00:19:03.533
SO AND1 ENDS,
THEY GET BOUGHT OUT.
00:19:03.633 --> 00:19:04.600
YOU GET SAVED.
00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:05.666
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:19:05.766 --> 00:19:08.966
REBECCA: WHEN DOES YOUR OWN
PLATFORM COME IN?
00:19:09.066 --> 00:19:10.266
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:19:10.366 --> 00:19:14.766
SO EVEN BEFORE I GOT SAVED,
I THINK, OUR ENDORSEMENT DEALS
00:19:14.866 --> 00:19:17.299
ENDED THE
END OF 2008.
00:19:17.399 --> 00:19:18.466
LIKE, WE DIDN'T EVEN
GET A CALL, YOU KNOW,
00:19:18.566 --> 00:19:19.900
SAYING THE CONTRACT
RAN OUT.
00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:21.766
IT WAS LIKE A DIAL TONE,
LIKE, HELLO?
00:19:21.866 --> 00:19:23.500
YOU CAN'T GET
AHOLD OF NOBODY.
00:19:23.600 --> 00:19:24.600
REBECCA: ROUGH.
00:19:24.700 --> 00:19:26.399
GRAYSON: SO, 2009, I STARTED MY
YOUTUBE CHANNEL,
00:19:26.499 --> 00:19:28.033
BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY AN ATTEMPT
JUST TO GET BOOKINGS
00:19:28.133 --> 00:19:29.466
BECAUSE I WAS
AWARE OF YOU --
00:19:29.566 --> 00:19:31.666
I WAS UP ON YOUTUBE
BACK IN '05.
00:19:31.766 --> 00:19:33.966
I HAD A HOMIE MAKE ME A
EDIT BECAUSE FANS WERE
00:19:34.066 --> 00:19:36.332
RIPPING OUR
HIGHLIGHTS OFF ESPN.
00:19:36.432 --> 00:19:38.466
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE
ULTRA TECHIE AT THAT TIME
00:19:38.566 --> 00:19:40.299
AND THEY'RE MAKING THEIR OWN
HIGHLIGHT COMPILATIONS
00:19:40.399 --> 00:19:42.400
ON YOUTUBE AND THEY'RE
LIKE GOING OFF.
00:19:42.500 --> 00:19:45.699
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERY VID'S
FIVE MIL, TWO MIL, TEN MIL.
00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:47.500
SO I WAS LIKE, I SHOULD
MAKE THESE ON MY OWN
00:19:47.600 --> 00:19:50.433
TO TRY TO FLOOD YOUTUBE AND
HOPEFULLY TO GET MORE BOOKINGS
00:19:50.533 --> 00:19:50.999
OR AWARENESS.
00:19:51.099 --> 00:19:51.633
JUST PERIOD.
00:19:51.733 --> 00:19:52.532
IT'S GOOD FOR MARKETING.
00:19:52.632 --> 00:19:53.599
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
00:19:53.699 --> 00:19:54.566
GRAYSON: BUT THEN AFTER
AND1 ENDS, I'M LIKE,
00:19:54.666 --> 00:19:55.932
I NEED THOSE BOOKINGS.
00:19:56.032 --> 00:19:58.099
SO IN THAT TIME YOU ACTUALLY
WERE ABLE TO GET A DM
00:19:58.199 --> 00:19:59.399
ON YOUTUBE.
00:19:59.499 --> 00:20:00.000
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
00:20:00.100 --> 00:20:01.033
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:20:01.133 --> 00:20:04.799
SO I FOUND A FAN WHO WAS
MAKING COMPILATIONS,
00:20:04.899 --> 00:20:06.766
PROFESSOR COMPILATIONS
OF SOME OF MY TEAMMATES.
00:20:06.866 --> 00:20:07.399
RIGHT.
00:20:07.499 --> 00:20:08.066
AND I HIT HIM UP.
00:20:08.166 --> 00:20:09.133
HE LIVED IN SAN DIEGO.
00:20:09.233 --> 00:20:10.266
I COULD SEE HE
WAS IN SAN DIEGO.
00:20:10.366 --> 00:20:12.832
I SENT HIM A DM ON YOUTUBE
AND I ACTUALLY ASKED HIM
00:20:12.932 --> 00:20:15.133
TO TEACH ME HOW TO EDIT,
TO LIKE, DO MY, TEACH ME
00:20:15.233 --> 00:20:17.266
HOW TO DO MY OWN CHANNEL.
00:20:17.366 --> 00:20:18.466
AND THROUGH THAT IT WAS
LIKE LEARNING TO EDIT.
00:20:18.566 --> 00:20:20.233
SO I SAT WITH HIM LIKE
THREE TIMES A WEEK.
00:20:20.333 --> 00:20:21.433
I WOULD DRIVE FROM LA
TO SAN DIEGO.
00:20:21.533 --> 00:20:22.366
REBECCA: WOW.
00:20:22.466 --> 00:20:23.066
GRAYSON: I HAD NOTHING
ELSE GOING ON.
00:20:23.166 --> 00:20:24.299
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:20:24.399 --> 00:20:29.066
GRAYSON: SO HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO
EDIT AND THEN LIKE 2013.
00:20:29.166 --> 00:20:30.866
AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANT
WAS EVERY TIME I DID A GAME
00:20:30.966 --> 00:20:33.299
BECAUSE I'D STILL GET BOOKED
FOR LIKE FREELANCE GAMES,
00:20:33.399 --> 00:20:34.632
YOU KNOW,
A FEW AND FAR IN BETWEEN.
00:20:34.732 --> 00:20:37.666
I'M NOT MAKING MUCH MONEY TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S NEXT.
00:20:37.766 --> 00:20:39.266
I WOULD DO THESE GAMES,
AND IF I HAD THE FOOTAGE,
00:20:39.366 --> 00:20:40.532
IF I COULD GET THE FOOTAGE
FROM THE EVENT,
00:20:40.632 --> 00:20:41.900
I DIDN'T EVEN HIRE NOBODY
TO FILM IT.
00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:43.466
I'M NOT KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
00:20:43.566 --> 00:20:45.033
THEN I WOULD EDIT
IT AND PUT IT OUT.
00:20:45.133 --> 00:20:47.199
SO BY 2013, MY HOMIE WAS
LIKE, MAN, HE'S LIKE
00:20:47.299 --> 00:20:50.033
A LOT OF THESE VIDEOS GOT
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VIEWS.
00:20:50.133 --> 00:20:52.099
HE'S LIKE, LOOK, THIS GOT
LIKE A HALF A MILLION VIEWS.
00:20:52.199 --> 00:20:54.566
I WAS LIKE, HE'S LIKE, YOU
NEVER TRIED TO GO VIRAL?
00:20:54.666 --> 00:20:56.133
AND I WAS LIKE, OH, YOU
MEAN LIKE A YOUTUBER?
00:20:56.233 --> 00:20:57.999
AND I'M LIKE,
HE'S LIKE, YEAH.
00:20:58.099 --> 00:20:59.833
AND I'M LIKE, BUT I'M
THINKING, I'M AN ATHLETE.
00:20:59.933 --> 00:21:00.833
I'M NOT.
00:21:00.933 --> 00:21:01.933
MY STUFF MIGHT BE ON
YOUTUBE, BUT I'M NOT
00:21:02.033 --> 00:21:03.933
THINKING I'M A YOUTUBER
NOT KNOWING, LIKE, NO,
00:21:04.033 --> 00:21:05.633
DON'T MATTER WHAT GENRE
YOU'RE IN, YOU CAN GO IN
00:21:05.733 --> 00:21:07.699
JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:13.166
SO HE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA, TO
DO A SUPERHERO PRANK BASKETBALL
00:21:13.266 --> 00:21:16.199
VIDEO, WHICH WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
HOW GENIUS IT WAS
00:21:16.299 --> 00:21:18.899
AT THE TIME
00:21:18.999 --> 00:21:21.100
WHERE I WOULD GO TO
THE PARK, WE CHOSE SPIDER-MAN
00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:22.566
BECAUSE IT
COVERED EVERY PART OF THE BODY,
00:21:22.666 --> 00:21:24.366
SO THEY WOULDN'T
KNOW WHO IT WAS.
00:21:24.466 --> 00:21:27.433
AND SO I WOULD JUST, LIKE,
PLAY PEOPLE AS THE SUPERHERO.
00:21:27.533 --> 00:21:28.500
SAUCE THEM UP.
00:21:28.600 --> 00:21:29.266
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:21:29.366 --> 00:21:30.299
DO MY THING.
00:21:30.399 --> 00:21:32.033
AND THEN IT TURNED OUT
IT WAS SUCH A GREAT VID.
00:21:32.133 --> 00:21:34.299
IT WAS A IT'S COSPLAY.
00:21:34.399 --> 00:21:35.599
IT'S HUMOR.
00:21:35.699 --> 00:21:39.632
IT WAS PRANK SPORTS,
JAW DROP, LIKE COMEDY,
00:21:39.732 --> 00:21:41.566
LIKE EVERYTHING
ALL IN ONE.
00:21:41.666 --> 00:21:42.932
AND THAT'S HOW YOU,
LIKE, REALLY GO VIRAL.
00:21:43.032 --> 00:21:45.500
BUT TO HIT ALL THOSE,
CHECKED ALL THOSE BOXES
00:21:45.600 --> 00:21:47.199
AND IT DID
SIX MIL IN A WEEK.
00:21:47.299 --> 00:21:48.266
REBECCA: WHICH IS CRAZY.
00:21:48.366 --> 00:21:49.499
GRAYSON: LITERALLY.
00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:51.532
I ONLY HOOPED FOR 20 MINUTES,
BUT I DIDN'T MISS A SHOT.
00:21:51.632 --> 00:21:53.699
ALL THE TRICKS
WAS LIKE FLAWLESS.
00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:55.366
AND THEN I ENDED UP
EDITING IT.
00:21:55.466 --> 00:21:58.000
I EDITED IT MYSELF FOR
LIKE THREE HOURS OR WHATEVER.
00:21:58.100 --> 00:22:00.699
BY THE END OF I THINK THE FIRST
DAY IT WAS LIKE TWO MIL VIEWS.
00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.333
THEN AFTER WEEK SIX MIL AND I
GOT MILLION SUBS ON THE WEEK,
00:22:04.433 --> 00:22:05.499
REBECCA: THAT'S CRAZY.
00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:07.033
GRAYSON: SO IT TURNED INTO A
BUSINESS OVERNIGHT.
00:22:07.133 --> 00:22:07.900
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:08.866
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:22:08.966 --> 00:22:10.266
SO THAT WAS LIKE
THE BEGINNING OF, OKAY.
00:22:10.366 --> 00:22:12.266
NOW YOUTUBE ITSELF
IS A BUSINESS.
00:22:12.366 --> 00:22:13.199
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:22:13.299 --> 00:22:17.366
GRAYSON: AND SO THAT
WAS IN 2013.
00:22:17.466 --> 00:22:19.700
GRAYSON: 2013. BUT I STILL WAS
TOURING UP UNTIL 2016.
00:22:19.800 --> 00:22:21.333
THERE WAS ANOTHER COMPANY
WHO TRIED TO KIND OF LIKE
00:22:21.433 --> 00:22:24.300
DO WHAT AND1 DID, PICK UP
WHERE THEY LEFT OFF.
00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:25.466
IT WAS CALLEDBALL UP .
00:22:25.566 --> 00:22:27.466
IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL
BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF REASONS,
00:22:27.566 --> 00:22:29.066
BUT MAINLY LIKE
MARKETING, EVERYTHING WAS
00:22:29.166 --> 00:22:31.066
TURNING INTO SOCIAL AND THEY
WERE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND
00:22:31.166 --> 00:22:32.333
THAT WAVE.
00:22:32.433 --> 00:22:34.100
WE HAD LIKE A TV SHOW
ON FOX, BUT LIKE,
00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.366
NOBODY REALLY WATCHES FOX,
ESPECIALLY FOR REALITY TV.
00:22:37.466 --> 00:22:38.733
REBECCA: NO.
00:22:38.833 --> 00:22:40.833
GRAYSON: SO, SO BUT I WAS STILL
DOING YOUTUBE IN MY OFF-TIME.
00:22:40.933 --> 00:22:44.966
AND THEN AFTER 2016, THOSE
CONTRACTS RAN OUT AS WELL.
00:22:45.066 --> 00:22:46.366
I WAS ABLE TO
JUST GO FULL TIME.
00:22:46.466 --> 00:22:47.232
REBECCA: WOW.
00:22:47.332 --> 00:22:48.733
WHICH IS REALLY
SAYING SOMETHING.
00:22:48.833 --> 00:22:49.699
GRAYSON: OH, IT WAS GREAT.
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:50.733
YEAH.
00:22:50.833 --> 00:22:51.766
I COULDN'T WAIT FOR THAT
TO END THE TOURING.
00:22:51.866 --> 00:22:52.999
I MEAN, IT WAS GREAT.
00:22:53.099 --> 00:22:55.100
I STILL LOVE HOOPING, BUT
IT'S A LOT OF TO DO YOUR OWN,
00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:58.699
TO BE YOUR OWN LIKE CEO, MAKE
ALL YOUR OWN BUSINESS MOVES,
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:00.566
DECIDE THE
CREATIVE, MARKET YOURSELF
00:23:00.666 --> 00:23:02.733
HOW YOU WANT TO.
00:23:02.833 --> 00:23:03.933
WELL, YOU CAN'T BEAT THAT.
00:23:04.033 --> 00:23:06.133
AND THAT'S KIND OF NOW
THAT'S LIKE THE NEW, YOU KNOW,
00:23:06.233 --> 00:23:08.100
EVERYBODY
KNOWS THAT NOW.
00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.900
REBECCA: YOU KNOW NOW I THINK,
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T,
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:13.500
I THINK THE INTERNET
WAS ROUGH BACK THEN.
00:23:13.600 --> 00:23:15.433
BUT THE INTERNET'S
PRETTY ROUGH THESE DAYS.
00:23:15.533 --> 00:23:16.366
GRAYSON: IT'S ALWAYS HARD.
00:23:16.466 --> 00:23:17.599
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:23:17.699 --> 00:23:18.766
GRAYSON: LIKE NO MATTER WHAT
PLATFORM YOU DO, IT'S LIKE
00:23:18.866 --> 00:23:20.466
IF YOU WANT TO DO IT IN
EXCELLENCE, LIKE A FULL-TIME
00:23:20.566 --> 00:23:22.933
JOB, AND THEN, YOU
KNOW, THE ALGORITHM
00:23:23.033 --> 00:23:24.599
CHANGES EVERY SIX
MONTHS TO A YEAR.
00:23:24.699 --> 00:23:25.300
SO YOU HAVE TO PIVOT.
00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:26.666
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:23:26.766 --> 00:23:29.199
STAY UP WITH THE TRENDS AND THE
EDIT STYLES AND NEW PLATFORMS.
00:23:29.266 --> 00:23:30.333
IT'S A GRIND.
00:23:30.433 --> 00:23:31.533
REBECCA: IT'S
CONSTANTLY CHANGING.
00:23:31.633 --> 00:23:33.233
IT'S EVOLVING QUICKLY.
00:23:33.333 --> 00:23:36.633
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ONLINE
CAN BE PRETTY HARSH.
00:23:36.733 --> 00:23:39.466
AND I THINK FOR PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN YOUR POSITION,
00:23:39.566 --> 00:23:41.033
IT'S A DIFFICULT POSITION
TO BE IN
00:23:41.133 --> 00:23:42.633
BECAUSE I THINK
IT'S VERY EASY.
00:23:42.733 --> 00:23:44.500
WE'RE LIVING IN
CANCEL CULTURE DAYS.
00:23:44.600 --> 00:23:45.866
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:23:45.966 --> 00:23:49.733
REBECCA: SO HOW DO YOU HAVE THIS
PLATFORM AND ALSO BE A BELIEVER
00:23:49.833 --> 00:23:52.166
AND STAY
TRUE TO YOUR BELIEFS?
00:23:52.266 --> 00:23:54.699
GRAYSON: OH, WELL, IT HELPED
A LOT BEING MY OWN BOSS.
00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.033
LIKE, JUST STEP ONE
WAS LIKE, OKAY,
00:23:56.133 --> 00:23:57.499
NOW I'M
CONTROLLING MY DESTINY.
00:23:57.599 --> 00:23:58.966
NOBODY DECIDES WHAT WE SAY
OR HOW WE GET DOWN
00:23:59.066 --> 00:24:01.099
OR WHAT
OUR SCHEDULE IS.
00:24:01.199 --> 00:24:02.966
SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
00:24:03.066 --> 00:24:05.766
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE ADVANTAGE
OF LIKE, BEING AN INFLUENCER.
00:24:05.866 --> 00:24:07.999
YOU CAN DO YOUR OWN THING.
00:24:08.099 --> 00:24:12.266
AND I THINK ALSO
JUST, YOU KNOW, IT GOES BACK
00:24:12.366 --> 00:24:13.866
TO STILL LIKE, WHO
YOU HANG AROUND,
00:24:13.966 --> 00:24:16.766
WHO DO YOU BRING ON
THE ROAD WITH YOU?
00:24:16.866 --> 00:24:18.032
WHAT ARE YOUR DISCIPLINES?
00:24:18.132 --> 00:24:20.533
SO I TRY MY BEST TO, LIKE,
BE AS DISCIPLINED AS I CAN TO,
00:24:20.633 --> 00:24:23.000
YOU KNOW, STAY IN THE
WORD AND, YOU KNOW,
00:24:23.100 --> 00:24:25.432
BE GROUNDED AND THEN ULTIMATELY,
LIKE, USE MY PLATFORM
00:24:25.532 --> 00:24:27.099
FOR CHRIST.
00:24:27.199 --> 00:24:28.400
BUT I THINK HOW LOGISTICALLY
HAS A LOT TO DO WITH
00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:29.266
WHO I'M AROUND.
00:24:29.366 --> 00:24:30.700
AND WHAT ARE MY
DISCIPLINES.
00:24:30.800 --> 00:24:31.800
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:24:31.900 --> 00:24:33.166
SHARE SOME OF THOSE
DISCIPLINES FOR, YOU KNOW,
00:24:33.266 --> 00:24:35.666
THE YOUNG BELIEVERS WATCHING
WHO WANT TO GROW IN THEIR FAITH.
00:24:35.766 --> 00:24:36.966
GRAYSON: OH, FOR SURE.
00:24:37.066 --> 00:24:39.299
LIKE I THINK LIKE WHAT WAS BIG
FOR ME EVEN THIS YEAR AFTER,
00:24:39.399 --> 00:24:41.333
YOU KNOW, COVID FINALLY IS LIKE
BEHIND US, RIGHT?
00:24:41.433 --> 00:24:42.299
MAYBE FOR A YEAR NOW.
00:24:42.399 --> 00:24:45.500
BUT GETTING INTO A SMALL
GROUP, YOU KNOW,
00:24:45.600 --> 00:24:49.166
SO I'VE EVEN RECENTLY MYSELF GOT
BACK INTO A SMALL GROUP,
00:24:49.266 --> 00:24:52.332
I'M TRYING TO READ DAILY, YOU
KNOW, TRY MY BEST TO READ DAILY.
00:24:52.432 --> 00:24:55.099
YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET IT
SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT,
00:24:55.199 --> 00:24:57.766
THAT'S ANOTHER DISCIPLINE,
STRENGTH AND PRAYER LIFE.
00:24:57.866 --> 00:25:01.333
YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO,
LIKE, PRAY HALFHEARTEDLY
00:25:01.433 --> 00:25:03.433
BEFORE A MEAL OR IN THE
MORNING NIGHT, YOU KNOW,
00:25:03.533 --> 00:25:05.066
BUT TRYING TO BE
MORE INTENTIONAL
00:25:05.166 --> 00:25:08.366
ABOUT HAVING A
STRONGER PRAYER LIFE.
00:25:08.466 --> 00:25:10.833
AND THEN, YEAH.
00:25:10.933 --> 00:25:12.466
YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU, OF
COURSE, YOU COULD SAY
00:25:12.566 --> 00:25:15.166
JUST BEING IN CHURCH ON SUNDAYS,
YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A STAPLE.
00:25:15.266 --> 00:25:16.866
YOU DON'T MISS
BECAUSE EASY TO MISS.
00:25:16.966 --> 00:25:19.832
AND I THINK EVEN FOR ME,
THAT'S A THAT'S ACTUALLY
00:25:19.932 --> 00:25:21.933
CAN BE HARD TOO IS LIKE
YOU'RE SO SPREAD THIN
00:25:22.033 --> 00:25:24.366
WITH YOU HAVE A HUGE PLATFORM
AND ALL THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
00:25:24.466 --> 00:25:26.299
EVERYONE WANTS YOU
TO DO EVERYTHING.
00:25:26.399 --> 00:25:28.166
YOU COULD BE LIKE, COME
SUNDAY MORNING, YOU'D BE LIKE,
00:25:28.266 --> 00:25:29.732
MAN, I'M
TIRED AS HECK, MAN.
00:25:29.832 --> 00:25:31.399
YEAH, IT'S SO HARD
TO MAKE IT UP THERE.
00:25:31.499 --> 00:25:33.566
BUT LIKE BEING INTENTIONAL
ABOUT MAKING IT A THING.
00:25:33.666 --> 00:25:36.533
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT COME TO MIND.
00:25:36.633 --> 00:25:37.733
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:25:37.833 --> 00:25:39.999
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE
MOST EXCITING THING FOR PEOPLE
00:25:40.099 --> 00:25:43.099
TO LISTEN TO DISCIPLINE
AND SPIRITUAL DISCIPLINES,
00:25:43.199 --> 00:25:45.233
BUT IT REALLY
IS HOW WE WALK OUT OUR FAITH
00:25:45.333 --> 00:25:48.133
AND HOW WE STAY
SPIRITUALLY STRONG IN HIM.
00:25:48.233 --> 00:25:49.766
AND SO THAT'S SUCH AN
IMPORTANT WORD, YOU KNOW,
00:25:49.866 --> 00:25:50.733
TO BE IN
THE RIGHT COMMUNITY,
00:25:50.833 --> 00:25:53.233
TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
BEING IN THE WORD.
00:25:53.333 --> 00:25:56.966
YOU KNOW, I, I WANT MORE PEOPLE
IN OUR GENERATION AND UNDER
00:25:57.066 --> 00:25:59.033
TO BE IN
THE WORD OF GOD
00:25:59.133 --> 00:26:00.632
AND TO BE GLEANING IT
FOR THEMSELVES.
00:26:00.732 --> 00:26:02.866
BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, IF
THEY'RE NOT GLEANING FROM IT,
00:26:02.966 --> 00:26:04.666
IT'S GOING TO BE
EASY TO BE DECEIVED.
00:26:04.766 --> 00:26:07.766
AND WE'RE LIVING IN VERY
PERSUASIVE AND DECEPTIVE TIMES
00:26:07.866 --> 00:26:09.399
WHERE, YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE ARE PUTTING OUT
00:26:09.499 --> 00:26:13.766
WHAT SEEMS LIKE A
CHRIST-CENTERED GOSPEL, BUT IT'S
NOT.
00:26:13.866 --> 00:26:16.466
AND SO, SO MANY PEOPLE ARE
FALLING AWAY UNINTENTIONALLY,
00:26:16.566 --> 00:26:18.599
YOU KNOW,
THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT HOW
00:26:18.699 --> 00:26:21.666
IN THE LAST DAYS, THERE WILL BE
A GREAT APOSTASY IN THE CHURCH,
00:26:21.766 --> 00:26:23.032
THAT
PEOPLE WILL FALL AWAY.
00:26:23.132 --> 00:26:25.332
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE
CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW,
00:26:25.432 --> 00:26:28.133
TO BE IN THE WORD, TO BE
AROUND THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
00:26:28.233 --> 00:26:29.933
AND I LOVE THAT YOU'RE
USING YOUR PLATFORM
00:26:30.033 --> 00:26:33.732
TO GLORIFY THE LORD BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY,
00:26:33.832 --> 00:26:36.433
IT'S WHAT WE DO
WITH THE GIFTS HE'S GIVEN US,
00:26:36.533 --> 00:26:39.532
AND IT'S BEING OBEDIENT AND
IT'S BEING GOOD STEWARDS.
00:26:39.632 --> 00:26:41.966
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK
YOUR LIFE IS A TESTIMONY
00:26:42.066 --> 00:26:44.533
TO NOT GIVING UP, TO
BEING DISCIPLINED.
00:26:44.633 --> 00:26:47.833
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU
WERE IN THAT CROSSROADS MOMENT,
00:26:47.933 --> 00:26:50.166
YOU CHOSE CHRIST
AND YOU'VE LEANED INTO HIM
00:26:50.266 --> 00:26:52.166
EVER SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW?
00:26:52.266 --> 00:26:54.432
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S
WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
00:26:54.532 --> 00:26:55.466
GRAYSON: YEAH, ANOTHER THING IS
IMPORTANT TO TACK ON
00:26:55.566 --> 00:26:56.532
TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO,
00:26:56.632 --> 00:26:58.832
IS THAT KIDS SHOULD KNOW
OR NEW BELIEVERS IS THAT
00:26:58.932 --> 00:27:00.366
THAT'S ACTUALLY
A BETTER LIFE.
00:27:00.466 --> 00:27:03.100
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE
DISCIPLINE, IT'S HARDER TO
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.033
FOLLOW THE CALL
ON YOUR LIFE.
00:27:05.133 --> 00:27:06.599
YEAH, IT'S GOING
TO BE CLOUDED.
00:27:06.699 --> 00:27:07.900
IT'S GOING TO BE
HARDER TO FOLLOW A CALL
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:08.766
AND IT'S NOT BETTER.
00:27:08.866 --> 00:27:09.833
RIGHT.
00:27:09.933 --> 00:27:10.999
BECAUSE I THINK WHAT
THE ENEMY WILL TELL US,
00:27:11.099 --> 00:27:13.833
OR WHAT'S EASY TO FALL INTO
FROM CULTURE, IS THAT
00:27:13.933 --> 00:27:15.433
THOSE DISCIPLINES
ARE LIKE HARD, RIGHT?
00:27:15.533 --> 00:27:17.866
SO IT'S LIKE EASIER JUST TO
CHILL, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
00:27:17.966 --> 00:27:19.333
LIKE, BUT YOU THINK THAT'S
A BETTER LIFE
00:27:19.433 --> 00:27:21.100
BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, OH, MAN,
YOU WORK ALL HARD.
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.299
THAT'S CRAZY.
00:27:22.399 --> 00:27:23.700
LIKE, IT'S BETTER JUST WE CAN
THINK THIS IN OUR MIND
00:27:23.800 --> 00:27:24.332
JUST SUBCONSCIOUSLY.
00:27:24.432 --> 00:27:25.333
RIGHT?
00:27:25.433 --> 00:27:27.433
BUT NOT KNOWING IF YOU
ACTUALLY LIKE ARE.
00:27:27.533 --> 00:27:29.699
AND IT'S NOT JUST
THE BIBLE DIRECTLY,
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.899
BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING FUN SEEKING
GOD AND LEARNING ABOUT CHRIST,
00:27:32.999 --> 00:27:34.432
OBVIOUSLY
THE WORD DIRECTLY TO.
00:27:34.532 --> 00:27:37.033
BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING FUN
PURSUING CHRIST
00:27:37.133 --> 00:27:42.366
AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS, THEN
WITH THAT FOLLOWS MORE PEACE,
00:27:42.466 --> 00:27:45.233
BETTER LIFE,
BE MORE IN YOUR CALL.
00:27:45.333 --> 00:27:47.799
AND THEN IT'S JUST OVERALL, IT'S
JUST LIKE A WAY BETTER LIFE.
00:27:47.899 --> 00:27:49.999
BUT EVEN MYSELF, YOU KNOW,
IT'S EASY.
00:27:50.099 --> 00:27:52.433
IT'S HARDER TO STAY WITH
THOSE DISCIPLINES TO LIVE
00:27:52.533 --> 00:27:53.766
YOUR BEST LIFE.
00:27:53.866 --> 00:27:56.000
BECAUSE I THINK THE BEST LIFE
IN THE CULTURE WOULD BE LIKE,
00:27:56.100 --> 00:27:57.966
GET RICH
OR BE AN ENTREPRENEUR.
00:27:58.066 --> 00:28:00.432
BALL OUT AND THEN
PUT PEOPLE UNDER YOU
00:28:00.532 --> 00:28:02.199
SO YOU CAN LIKE KICK YOUR
FEET UP AND CHILL.
00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:03.899
IT'S NOT EVEN HOW IT WORKS
ANYWAY, EVEN IF YOU WANT
00:28:03.999 --> 00:28:04.999
TO DO THAT.
00:28:05.099 --> 00:28:07.766
BUT THE REEL IS LIKE,
YEAH, AS A NEW BELIEVER,
00:28:07.866 --> 00:28:08.900
LIKE BEING IN CHRIST.
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.199
LIKE THAT'S A
WAY BETTER LIFE.
00:28:10.299 --> 00:28:13.366
LIKE THAT'S MORE LIKE
EARLIER ON THE TABLE TALK
00:28:13.466 --> 00:28:16.132
THEY WERE SAYING LIKE
SUSTAINABLE JOY.
00:28:16.232 --> 00:28:17.166
THAT CAN BE GREAT.
00:28:17.266 --> 00:28:18.399
SO I THINK THOSE
DISCIPLINES CAN BE LOOKED AT
00:28:18.499 --> 00:28:21.999
AS JUST LIKE HARD WORK AND LIKE
THERE'S NO GREAT BENEFIT
00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:23.966
YOU COULD REAP FROM IT.
00:28:24.066 --> 00:28:26.700
BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S
ACTUALLY THAT IS WAY BETTER WAY,
00:28:26.800 --> 00:28:27.966
RIGHT, TO LIVE.
SO YEAH.
00:28:28.066 --> 00:28:30.300
REBECCA: IN THE MOMENT
IT MIGHT BE HARD, YOU KNOW,
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:31.700
BECAUSE LIKE YOU
SAID, IT'S EASIER TO JUST THINK
00:28:31.800 --> 00:28:32.900
I'M JUST
GOING TO CHILL.
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.800
AND I TOTALLY GET THAT
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE MYSELF
00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:35.999
SO MANY TIMES.
00:28:36.099 --> 00:28:36.899
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
00:28:36.999 --> 00:28:40.666
IN THE LONG RUN,
YOU SEE THE FRUITS
00:28:40.766 --> 00:28:42.000
OF THE WORK.
00:28:42.100 --> 00:28:44.000
GRAYSON: AND EVEN IN SHORT
TERM, AS YOU GO.
00:28:44.100 --> 00:28:46.066
RIGHT, I CAN EVEN LOOK, I CAN
POINT TO LIKE CERTAIN VIDEOS
00:28:46.166 --> 00:28:48.900
WE'VE MADE, AND
IT ALWAYS COMES WHEN I'M LIKE
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.033
MOST FOCUSED
SPIRITUALLY TOO, LIKE,
00:28:51.133 --> 00:28:52.666
REBECCA: THAT'S A GOOD ONE.
00:28:52.766 --> 00:28:54.733
GRAYSON: WE'LL DO A VIDEO
LIKE IT'LL BE CRAZY.
00:28:54.833 --> 00:28:56.233
ONE TIME I CROSSED
THE DUDE UP.
00:28:56.333 --> 00:28:57.266
I AIN'T EVEN TOUCH HIM.
00:28:57.366 --> 00:29:00.066
HE BROKE HIS SHOULDER
LIKE, BUT THE VIDEO
00:29:00.166 --> 00:29:03.666
AND THE VIDEO LOOKED LIKE
IT WENT SO LIKE SUPERHERO
00:29:03.766 --> 00:29:06.200
VERSUS VILLAIN THAT PEOPLE
THINK IT WAS LIKE FAKE,
00:29:06.300 --> 00:29:07.566
BUT IT LIKE, WASN'T.
00:29:07.666 --> 00:29:11.499
IT'S LIKE GOD HAD HIS HAND EVEN
IN, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.233
SO LIKE ONGOING, WE COULD
SEE THE HARVEST OF LIKE
00:29:14.333 --> 00:29:18.032
SUPERNATURAL THINGS HAPPENING
JUST DAY IN AND DAY OUT TOO.
00:29:18.132 --> 00:29:19.199
YEAH.
00:29:19.299 --> 00:29:21.099
REBECCA: THAT'S AWESOME.
00:29:21.199 --> 00:29:22.833
WHAT SO YOU ONE OF
THE THINGS YOU SAID
00:29:22.933 --> 00:29:26.366
THAT WAS INTERESTING IS YOU SAID
THAT A LIE THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE
00:29:26.466 --> 00:29:27.799
IS THAT
LIVING LIFE FOR THEMSELVES
00:29:27.899 --> 00:29:30.733
IS THE BEST LIFE, BUT THE
BEST LIFE REALLY IS IN CHRIST.
00:29:30.833 --> 00:29:34.099
WHAT ARE SOME OTHER
LIES FROM THE ENEMY
00:29:34.199 --> 00:29:35.599
THAT GOD
HAS REVEALED TO YOU
00:29:35.699 --> 00:29:37.366
THE TRUTH?
00:29:37.466 --> 00:29:39.933
WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE
LIES THAT GOD SHOWED YOU
00:29:40.033 --> 00:29:40.800
THIS ISN'T TRUE.
00:29:40.900 --> 00:29:42.566
THIS IS WHAT'S TRUE.
00:29:42.666 --> 00:29:43.800
THAT COULD, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE HELP BRING CLARITY
00:29:43.900 --> 00:29:45.866
TO PEOPLE WHO
ARE LISTENING.
00:29:45.966 --> 00:29:48.599
GRAYSON: OH, MAN, SO MANY.
00:29:48.699 --> 00:29:51.599
I'M TRYING TO THINK WHERE
TO GO, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES.
00:29:51.699 --> 00:29:54.933
SOMETIMES, LIKE, IT COULD
BE LIKE A DEAL YOU GET OFFERED
00:29:55.033 --> 00:29:56.033
OR SOME
BIG-MONEY OPPORTUNITY.
00:29:56.133 --> 00:29:57.633
BUT THIS GOES BACK TO
THAT SAYING, LIKE,
00:29:57.733 --> 00:30:01.199
NOT ALL MONEY IS GOOD MONEY OR
NOT ALL OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOOD
00:30:01.299 --> 00:30:02.566
ONES.
00:30:02.666 --> 00:30:04.633
SO I THINK SOMETIMES EVEN GOOD
THINGS THAT COULD COME YOUR WAY
00:30:04.733 --> 00:30:07.000
OR WHAT SEEMS GOOD,
PROBABLY ISN'T BEST
00:30:07.100 --> 00:30:09.133
FOR YOUR SPIRITUAL
LIFE OR WHATEVER.
00:30:09.233 --> 00:30:12.699
WHETHER IT'S SIGNING
THAT DEAL FOR SOMEBODY
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.566
WHO'S A CROOKED PARTNER OR
SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO
00:30:16.666 --> 00:30:19.733
DERAIL YOUR SCHEDULE, TO
NOT BE DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO
00:30:19.833 --> 00:30:23.999
AND SPREAD YOU TOO THIN
OR, SOMETHING THAT MAYBE LIKE
00:30:24.099 --> 00:30:26.533
A LITTLE EDGY OR DARK MIXED
IN WITH SOMETHING GOOD.
00:30:26.633 --> 00:30:29.632
SO IT LOOKS LIKE
IT'S ALL GOOD.
00:30:29.732 --> 00:30:31.099
THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS
THAT I'VE COME ACROSS BEFORE
00:30:31.199 --> 00:30:32.233
THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT...
00:30:32.333 --> 00:30:33.133
REBECCA:
WHERE THERE'S COMPROMISE.
00:30:33.233 --> 00:30:33.733
GRAYSON: SOMETHING YOU
SHOULD PASS.
00:30:33.833 --> 00:30:34.666
YEAH, EXACTLY.
00:30:34.766 --> 00:30:35.732
SOMEWHERE WHERE
THERE'S COMPROMISE.
00:30:35.832 --> 00:30:39.233
BUT EVEN IN YOUR REGULAR
LIFE, YOU COULD EVEN,
00:30:39.333 --> 00:30:44.133
YOU COULD DATE SOMEBODY WHO IS
KIND OF, LIKE, NOT FULLY LIKE,
00:30:44.233 --> 00:30:46.666
ON BOARD WITH CHRIST OR HAS
A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE GOSPEL,
00:30:46.766 --> 00:30:47.699
BUT, LIKE,
MAYBE THEY'RE HOT
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:48.933
OR THEY'RE REALLY
NICE TO YOU.
00:30:49.033 --> 00:30:49.933
SO YOU THINK THEY'RE GOOD.
00:30:50.033 --> 00:30:51.133
LIKE, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
00:30:51.233 --> 00:30:52.132
THERE'S A LOT OF WEIRD
DECEPTION THAT CAN COME YOUR WAY
00:30:52.232 --> 00:30:54.799
THAT MAY THAT
NEED A, YOU KNOW,
00:30:54.899 --> 00:30:58.166
A CAREFUL INSPECTION ON MIGHT
NOT BE BEST FOR YOU SPIRITUALLY.
00:30:58.266 --> 00:30:59.832
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
00:30:59.932 --> 00:31:00.966
AND SO THAT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT WORD.
00:31:01.066 --> 00:31:03.499
IT'S NOT TO COMPROMISE.
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:05.099
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT I
THINK THAT'S A WORD
00:31:05.199 --> 00:31:06.199
THAT PEOPLE REALLY
NEED TO HEAR
00:31:06.299 --> 00:31:07.366
THIS DAY.
00:31:07.466 --> 00:31:09.500
BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS
A LOT OF COMPROMISE GOING ON
00:31:09.600 --> 00:31:10.666
IN THE LONG RUN.
00:31:10.766 --> 00:31:13.333
I THINK PEOPLE WILL REGRET
COMPROMISE, BUT I THINK
00:31:13.433 --> 00:31:15.933
IN THE BEGINNING IT CAN LOOK
CERTAIN THINGS CAN LOOK ENTICING
00:31:16.033 --> 00:31:17.833
OR APPEALING,
BUT IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
00:31:17.933 --> 00:31:19.866
YOU KNOW THAT VERSE,
IT SAYS, JESUS SAYS,
00:31:19.966 --> 00:31:23.199
WHAT IF A MAN TO GAIN THE WHOLE
WORLD, BUT TO LOSE HIS SOUL,
00:31:23.299 --> 00:31:24.466
YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT WORTH IT.
00:31:24.566 --> 00:31:28.799
AND SO I JUST LOVE THAT.
FOR MY FINAL QUESTION
00:31:28.899 --> 00:31:32.366
OR THING THAT I WANT YOU TO
DO IS FOR THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE
00:31:32.466 --> 00:31:35.833
WHO ARE LISTENING
THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE BIG DREAMS
00:31:35.933 --> 00:31:38.366
AND, YOU KNOW,
LOVE THE LORD,
00:31:38.466 --> 00:31:40.233
WHAT IS YOUR PIECE
OF ADVICE TO THEM?
00:31:40.333 --> 00:31:42.466
HOW WOULD YOU
ENCOURAGE THEM?
00:31:42.566 --> 00:31:46.466
GRAYSON: OH, WELL, I THINK WE
TALKED, WE COVERED A LOT HERE,
00:31:46.566 --> 00:31:49.100
BUT I THINK, YEAH,
I WOULD JUST
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:53.966
ENCOURAGE THEM TO STAY ON
TRACK AND I WOULD SAY,
00:31:54.066 --> 00:31:55.266
YOUR FRIEND GROUP IS
REALLY IMPORTANT.
00:31:55.366 --> 00:31:59.899
I ENCOURAGE THEM TO HANG OUT
MAJORITY WITH OTHER BELIEVERS.
00:31:59.999 --> 00:32:01.600
YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, LIKE,
YOUR CLOSE FRIENDS YOU TALK TO
00:32:01.700 --> 00:32:05.766
WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT,
YEAH, I WOULD SAY
00:32:05.866 --> 00:32:07.800
JUST STAY ON TRACK
WITH CHRIST
00:32:07.900 --> 00:32:11.033
BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO BE
TAKEN AWAY AND ENCOURAGE THEM
00:32:11.133 --> 00:32:12.300
TO JUST TRY
DIFFERENT THINGS TOO.
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:13.499
A LOT OF PEOPLE
HAVEN'T FOUND
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.033
WHAT THEY THINK
THEIR PURPOSE IS IN CHRIST.
00:32:16.133 --> 00:32:18.233
SO I THINK TRYING
NEW THINGS IS GOOD.
00:32:18.333 --> 00:32:19.333
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
00:32:19.433 --> 00:32:20.566
THINGS THAT AREN'T
COMPROMISING OR DARK OR BAD
00:32:20.666 --> 00:32:21.432
OR WHATEVER.
00:32:21.532 --> 00:32:23.100
REBECCA: DON'T
BE AFRAID TO FAIL.
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.066
GRAYSON: YEAH.
00:32:24.166 --> 00:32:25.166
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE
COME TO ME WITH,
00:32:25.266 --> 00:32:27.299
HOW DO I START MY YOUTUBE
CHANNEL OR WHAT DO I,
00:32:27.399 --> 00:32:29.299
HOW DO I FIND WHAT KIND OF
CONTENT'S GOOD?
00:32:29.399 --> 00:32:30.732
AND I WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU
SHOULD START WITH LIKE,
00:32:30.832 --> 00:32:31.533
WHAT DO YOU LIKE?
00:32:31.633 --> 00:32:32.499
LIKE WHAT DO YOU LIKE NOW?
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:33.999
YOU KNOW,
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THERE,
00:32:34.099 --> 00:32:37.666
TRY ALL DIFFERENT KIND OF VIDEOS
AND SEE WHAT STICKS.
00:32:37.766 --> 00:32:39.232
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN,
AND SEE WHAT'S FOR YOU.
00:32:39.332 --> 00:32:42.233
SO I DON'T THINK, IN
LIFE AND FOLLOWING YOUR CALLING,
00:32:42.333 --> 00:32:44.332
TRYING NEW THINGS
IS A BAD THING, TOO.
00:32:44.432 --> 00:32:47.233
SO THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS
THAT'S TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT.
00:32:47.333 --> 00:32:47.800
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:48.966
AND DON'T BE.
00:32:49.066 --> 00:32:50.299
IT'S LIKE I THINK PEOPLE
ARE AFRAID TO TRY NEW THINGS
00:32:50.399 --> 00:32:52.033
BECAUSE I THINK
THEY'RE AFRAID TO FAIL.
00:32:52.133 --> 00:32:52.700
AND IT'S OKAY.
00:32:52.800 --> 00:32:53.966
LIKE FAILURE.
00:32:54.066 --> 00:32:55.066
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS
I HAD TO LEARN LATER ON IN LIFE
00:32:55.166 --> 00:32:56.299
BECAUSE I WAS,
00:32:56.399 --> 00:32:57.666
SO I WOULD AVOID THINGS
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO FAIL,
00:32:57.733 --> 00:33:01.266
AND I HAD TO LEARN
THAT FAILURE IS NOT BAD.
00:33:01.366 --> 00:33:03.399
IT'S HOW YOU LEARN AND
IT'S HOW YOU GROW,
00:33:03.499 --> 00:33:05.833
AND IT'S WHAT YOU DO WITH
FAILURE, YOU KNOW?
00:33:05.933 --> 00:33:07.633
GRAYSON: YEAH, YOU WANT TO
LEARN, JUST START THINGS UP
00:33:07.733 --> 00:33:08.566
AND LEARN IT AS YOU GO.
00:33:08.666 --> 00:33:09.800
BECAUSE.
00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:10.600
YEAH, EXACTLY.
00:33:10.700 --> 00:33:11.532
LIKE THE LEARNING PROCESS,
00:33:11.632 --> 00:33:13.066
THE FAILURES ARE
THE LEARNING PROCESS.
00:33:13.166 --> 00:33:14.266
RIGHT.
00:33:14.366 --> 00:33:16.100
LIKE IF WE NEVER FAILED IN LIKE
WHAT YOU MIGHT LEARN
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.132
SOME THINGS, BUT YOU'RE NOT,
IT'S NOT GOING TO SET IN.
00:33:18.232 --> 00:33:19.499
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:21.533
GRAYSON: SO YEAH, I THINK TRYING
NEW THINGS, DON'T BE WORRIED TO
00:33:21.633 --> 00:33:24.332
FAIL. I THINK THIS
GENERATION SPECIFICALLY HERE
00:33:24.432 --> 00:33:25.533
IS ALL ABOUT
THE MICROWAVE.
00:33:25.633 --> 00:33:27.533
THEY WANT MICROWAVE
SUCCESS, RIGHT?
00:33:27.633 --> 00:33:28.766
REBECCA: YES.
00:33:28.866 --> 00:33:30.166
GRAYSON: I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO
LIKE START THEIR YOUTUBE
00:33:30.266 --> 00:33:32.966
OR DO THINGS
IN SHORT TERM.
00:33:33.066 --> 00:33:34.599
AND LIKE AFTER JUST A
COUPLE VIDS, THEY STOP
00:33:34.699 --> 00:33:35.732
BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE,
OH, IT DIDN'T WORK.
00:33:35.832 --> 00:33:38.332
IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THAT
WAS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
00:33:38.432 --> 00:33:41.766
SO I THINK SAY EVEN LIKE
FINDING YOUR CALLING OR,
00:33:41.866 --> 00:33:42.866
YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT.
00:33:42.966 --> 00:33:45.200
LIKE YOU GOT TO JUST LIKE
LEARN AS YOU GO AND...
00:33:45.300 --> 00:33:45.999
REBECCA: AND NOT GIVE UP.
00:33:46.099 --> 00:33:47.033
GRAYSON: AND
DON'T GIVE UP.
00:33:47.133 --> 00:33:48.532
I THINK THAT'S
A BIG THING I'VE TAKEN AWAY
00:33:48.632 --> 00:33:49.766
JUST FROM LIFE
IN GENERAL.
00:33:49.866 --> 00:33:52.433
I COULD LOOK AT THAT IN
THE SPIRITUAL FORM FOR MYSELF,
00:33:52.533 --> 00:33:54.166
LIKE
NOT GIVING UP.
00:33:54.266 --> 00:33:58.433
IT'S BEEN GREAT AND THEN
EVEN JUST LIKE WITH BASKETBALL
00:33:58.533 --> 00:34:00.566
OR LIKE MY
CAREER NOW WITH SOCIAL MEDIA,
00:34:00.666 --> 00:34:02.066
LIKE, DON'T
JUST STICK WITH IT.
00:34:02.166 --> 00:34:03.466
YEAH, I FOUND
00:34:03.566 --> 00:34:04.466
STICKING WITH WHAT I
LOVE FOR OVER 20 YEARS
00:34:04.566 --> 00:34:06.433
IT'S ACTUALLY
SUPER PAID OFF.
00:34:06.533 --> 00:34:08.799
BUT THERE WAS A LOT
OF OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE UP.
00:34:08.899 --> 00:34:10.833
LIKE I TORE MY ACHILLES,
LIKE ALL THESE, LIKE,
00:34:10.933 --> 00:34:13.166
CRAZY, I ACTUALLY GET
INJURED EVERY SECOND NOW.
00:34:13.266 --> 00:34:15.466
SO A LOT OF, LIKE,
INJURIES OR LIKE,
00:34:15.566 --> 00:34:17.666
I NOTICED EVERYBODY
MY AGE NOW, LIKE,
00:34:17.766 --> 00:34:19.933
THEY'RE DECIDING THEY'RE
JUST DECIDING TO END
00:34:20.033 --> 00:34:22.833
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THEY HAVE KIDS
AND NOW THEY FEEL LIKE
00:34:22.933 --> 00:34:26.232
IT'S TIME FOR SOMETHING
DIFFERENT OR WHATEVER.
00:34:26.332 --> 00:34:28.099
AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE
AFTER AND1, THEY JUST STOPPED,
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:29.833
RIGHT, BECAUSE
THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, THAT'S IT.
00:34:29.933 --> 00:34:31.332
I GOT MY
OPPORTUNITY ON TV,
00:34:31.432 --> 00:34:33.733
MY FAME WAVE IS
OVER OR WHATEVER.
00:34:33.833 --> 00:34:35.733
SO STICKING WITH THINGS
IS ACTUALLY THE KEY
00:34:35.833 --> 00:34:37.032
JUST IN
ANYTHING IN LIFE.
00:34:37.132 --> 00:34:37.900
YEAH.
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:38.899
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:34:38.999 --> 00:34:41.132
WELL, I ALMOST CALLED
YOU "THE PROFESSOR",
00:34:41.232 --> 00:34:42.666
BUT I WANT TO
CALL YOU GRAYSON.
00:34:42.766 --> 00:34:44.266
GRAYSON, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
00:34:44.366 --> 00:34:46.300
THANK YOU FOR SHARING
WITH THE VIEWERS,
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:47.733
AND JUST KEEP GOING.
00:34:47.833 --> 00:34:51.100
KEEP GLORIFYING THE LORD
THROUGH WHAT YOU DO.
00:34:51.200 --> 00:34:54.133
AND WE'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU
AND BELIEVING THE BEST FOR YOU.
00:34:54.233 --> 00:34:54.766
GRAYSON: THANK YOU.
00:34:54.866 --> 00:34:55.300
THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:56.200
IT WAS AWESOME.
00:34:56.300 --> 00:34:57.733
REBECCA: AND THANK YOU
FOR WATCHING
00:34:57.833 --> 00:34:59.666
THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST .