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REBECCA: HEY, GUYS,
LIFE UPDATE.

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WE HAD OUR BABY GIRL.


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IN TODAY'S EPISODE,


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I SIT DOWN WITH
LEIF HETLAND

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AND WE DISCUSS HIS BOOK


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<i>HEALING THE
ORPHAN SPIRIT.</i>

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NOW I WAS PREGNANT
WITH THIS BABY

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WHEN I DID
THIS INTERVIEW.

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AND THIS INTERVIEW
CHANGED MY LIFE,

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IT NOT ONLY HELPED ME
WITH PREGNANCY

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AND POSTPARTUM AND I KNOW IT'S
GOING TO BE A BLESSING

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FOR YOU TOO.






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REBECCA: HEY, GUYS.


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WELCOME BACK TO<i>THE
REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.</i>

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I AM JOINED TODAY
WITH LEIF HETLAND.

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HE IS THE AUTHOR,
FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT

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OF GLOBAL MISSIONS
AWARENESS.

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AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING
ABOUT HIS BOOK TODAY,

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<i>HEALING THE
ORPHAN SPIRIT.</i>

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AND I WAS JUST DISCUSSING
WITH YOU OFF CAMERA,

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YOU'VE ACTUALLY
WRITTEN QUITE

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A LOT OF REALLY GREAT
BOOKS.

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AND ONE OF THE THINGS
ANOTHER BOOK YOU WERE

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TALKING ABOUT THAT I THINK
IS VERY IMPORTANT IS IT

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CALLED DESTINED TO REIGN?


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LEIF:<i>CALLED TO REIGN.</i>


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REBECCA:<i>CALLED TO REIGN.</i>


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I WANT YOU TO SPEAK ON
THAT JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT.

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LEIF: YEAH.


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BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN
ORPHAN WORLD WHERE THE

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ORPHAN SPIRIT IS SO CLEAR.


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SO I REMEMBER I WAS
SITTING ON AN AIRPLANE AND

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I WAS SITTING ON
BUSINESS CLASS,

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AND THE GUY NEXT TO ME
SAID, HI, AND I SAID, HI.

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AND I KNOW WHAT THE NEXT
QUESTION IS GOING TO BE.

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WHAT DO YOU DO?


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REBECCA: WHAT DO YOU DO?


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LEIF: YEAH, BECAUSE AGAIN,
IN THE ORPHAN WORLD,

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IF YOU DO, YOU HAVE,
YOU BECOME.

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SO I CAN
MEASURE YOU BY

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WITH HOW WELL YOU DO
AND WHAT YOU DO.

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AND SO I JUST REALIZED
THAT HOW DO I DEAL WITH

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THIS FROM A KINGDOM
PERSPECTIVE?

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AND THEN THERE'S FOUR
QUESTIONS THAT FOR ME

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IS SO SIGNIFICANT.


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WHO ARE YOU?


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WHO ARE YOU AND
WHO IS LEIF HETLAND?

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WHO, WHO AM I?


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AND I'VE BEEN DRILLING,
DRILLING DEEP.

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SO THAT BOOK IS BASED UPON
THESE FOUR FOUNDATIONS.

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WHO ARE YOU?


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IDENTITY.


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IDENTITY.


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AND THEN THE SECOND
OF ALL, INTIMACY.

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WHERE ARE YOU?


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WHERE ARE YOU IN YOUR
RELATIONSHIP TO HIM?

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CAN YOU SEE HIS FACE?


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CAN YOU HEAR HIS VOICE?


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CAN YOU FEEL HIS LOVE?


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WHERE ARE YOU?


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SO WHEN HE SAID, ADAM,
ADAM, WHERE ARE YOU?

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IT WAS NOT ABOUT LOCATION.


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IT WAS ADAM AT
THAT MOMENT.

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REBECCA: HIS PROXIMITY.


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LEIF: YEAH, PROXIMITY.


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AND THEN INHERITANCE.


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WHAT DO YOU HAVE?


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WHAT IS AVAILABLE?


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EVERYTHING THAT
JESUS PAID FOR ON

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THE CROSS IS AVAILABLE.


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BUT SO FEW PEOPLE
HAVE ACCESS TO IT,

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AND MOST PEOPLE ARE TRYING
TO WORK FOR IT INSTEAD OF

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REALIZING FROM THE
IDENTITY, INTIMACY,

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THERE IS INHERITANCE.


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AND THEN WHAT ARE YOU
CALLED TO DO?

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WHAT IS YOUR
SPECIAL SAUCE?

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OR WHAT IS YOUR
UNIQUENESS?

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DESTINY.


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THERE'S A DESTINY FOR
EACH PERSON IN THIS WORLD.

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BUT THE DESTINY IS
FOUND IN THEIR IDENTITY.

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AND OUT OF THE IDENTITY,


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EVERYTHING COMES
FROM INTIMACY.

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AND THEN FROM THE INTIMACY,


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NOW YOU HAVE ACCESS TO
EVERYTHING THAT HE PAID FOR.

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AND THEN I'M STEPPING IN,


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IF YOU'RE A CEO OR A HOUSEWIFE
OR YOU'RE A PRODUCER,

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OR YOU'RE RUNNING
A CAMERA,

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FROM THAT VERY PLACE, YOU
HAVE PURPOSE AND YOU'RE

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SUDDENLY BRINGING GLORY.


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IT'S LIKE A FISH IN WATER,


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YOU'RE BECOMING ALIVE.


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AN EAGLE IN THE SKY,


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YOU START TO SOAR.


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SO I JUST WANTED TO HELP
PEOPLE BECAUSE I'M SEEING

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WHAT THE ENEMY IS DOING.


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HE'S TRYING TO STEAL
THE IDENTITY OF

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A WHOLE GENERATION.


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AND I WANT THEM
TO FIND OUT.

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NO, NO, LET ME TELL
YOU WHO YOU ARE.

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SO IT'S NOT WHAT YOU DO
THAT MAKES YOU WHO YOU ARE.

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IT IS WHO YOU ARE THAT
MAKES YOU DO WHAT YOU DO.

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REBECCA: IT'S SUCH AN
IMPORTANT MESSAGE.

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AND I THINK I SEE SO MANY,
EVEN BELIEVERS, THAT ARE

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STRUGGLING, THAT ARE
STRUGGLING WITH THIS

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ORPHAN SPIRIT, THAT
ARE STRUGGLING.

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THEY DON'T HAVE
AN IDENTITY,

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AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR
THINGS IN THE WRONG PLACES.

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AND IT CAUSES EVEN
FIGHTS AND SKIRMISHES

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WITHIN THE CHURCH WHICH
THE ENEMY WANTS.

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HE WANTS US TO BE
FIGHTING ONE ANOTHER.

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AND I FEEL LIKE IF SO
MANY MORE PEOPLE COULD

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UNDERSTAND WHO THE FATHER IS
AND WHO THEY ARE IN CHRIST,

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THEY WOULD HAVE SUCH A
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

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THINGS WOULD BE
SO DIFFERENT.

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AND BUT IT'S MISSING IN
SO MANY, EVEN BELIEVERS.

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NOT JUST, OF COURSE,
IN NONBELIEVERS.

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BECAUSE IF YOU ARE, IF YOU
HAVE NOT COME INTO THE

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FAMILY OF GOD,
YOU ARE AN ORPHAN,

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BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE
ALL WERE BORN INTO SIN.

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SO WE WERE ALL BORN
REJECTED BY GOD.

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AND SO THROUGH SALVATION,
WE COME IN THROUGH CHRIST,

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WE COME INTO THE
FAMILY OF GOD,

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AND GOD BEGINS TO UNPACK
IN US THAT IDENTITY,

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THEN THAT INTIMACY,
THEN THAT PURPOSE.

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BUT WHAT SO MANY PEOPLE
DO IS THEY COME INTO

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THE FAITH AND THEY WANT TO
SKIP STRAIGHT TO PURPOSE.

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LEIF: YEAH.


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REBECCA: AND THEN YOU HAVE
ALL THESE PEOPLE OPERATING

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IN MINISTRY THAT, THAT
ARE WANTING TO WALK IN

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PURPOSE, BUT THEY DON'T
KNOW WHO THEY ARE .

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AND SO THEY START TRYING
TO LOOK FOR WHO THEY ARE

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IN OTHER PEOPLE AND
WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

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AND THEY'RE MISSING,


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THEY'RE NOT OPERATING FROM
THAT PLACE OF SONSHIP.

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SO ALL PEOPLE NEED
TO, IN THE FAITH,

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NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE
IN THE FAMILY OF GOD.

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BUT A LOT OF TIMES LIFE
SENDS US MESSAGES THROUGH

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PAIN AND THROUGH BAD
EXPERIENCES THAT HURT OUR VIEW,

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AND GOD HAS TO COME
IN AND HEAL THAT.

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AND SO YOUR STORY IS A
STORY THAT SPEAKS SO WELL

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TO THIS, BECAUSE YOU WERE
OPERATING IN AN ORPHAN SPIRIT

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FOR EVEN A GOOD
PART OF MINISTRY,

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AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.


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SO I WANT TO GET INTO
YOUR TESTIMONY FIRST,

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THEN I WANT TO
GET INTO THIS

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<i>HEALING THE ORPHAN SPIRIT,
</i> THE BOOK.

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SO LET'S START BACK, ALL
THE WAY BACK TO BEFORE YOU

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WERE EVEN BORN,


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THERE WAS AN ATTACK
ON YOUR LIFE

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WHERE THE ENEMY STARTED
TRYING TO GO AFTER YOU.

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AND IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE GREAT CALLING

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AND DESTINY AND PURPOSE,
THE ENEMY WANTS TO

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TRY TO STOP THAT.


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LEIF: THAT'S RIGHT.


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REBECCA: FROM I MEAN, AS SOON,
I MEAN, AS IN THE WOMB,

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SO MANY PEOPLE
GET AFFECTED.

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SO BRING US BACK
TO THAT POINT.

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LEIF: YEAH,


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AND I DIDN'T KNOW
IT ACTUALLY BEFORE.

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REBECCA: NO.


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LEIF: I MEAN, I WAS AN
ADULT BEFORE I FOUND OUT.

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IT WAS ACTUALLY MY WIFE


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ASKING
STORIES TO MY MOM,

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AND MY MOM WAS THE ONE
THAT THEN DESCRIBED,

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OH, WHEN I CARRIED LEIF,
I HAD THIS MAJOR SURGERY

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THAT WAS TAKING PLACE, AND
THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT

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I WAS PREGNANT.


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BUT AT THAT MOMENT, I
DIDN'T KNOW THAT MY MOM

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CARRIED ME IN FEAR.


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DID SOMETHING
HAPPEN TO THE BABY?

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SO I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT
SOME OF MY FEAR TENDENCY

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WAS ALREADY THERE.


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REBECCA: AND FROM THE WOMB.


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LEIF: FROM THE WOMB, YEAH.


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SO THEN YOU GO THROUGH
AND YOU'RE WONDERING

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WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?


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OR YOU MAY BE GOING
THROUGH DIFFERENT THINGS

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AND SOMETIMES IT'S
THE SUBCONSCIOUS.

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YOU DO NOT REALIZE THAT
THERE'S A ROOT ISSUE THAT

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IS GOING ON HERE.


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REBECCA: EXACTLY.


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AND SO MANY OF US, STUFF
HAPPENED IN THE WOMB,

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AND WE WON'T KNOW BECAUSE
WE WERE LITERALLY LITTLE

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BABIES IN THE WOMB.


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BUT GOD CAN SHOW US.


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AND YOU HEARD THE STORY
THROUGH YOUR MOM LATER ON

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THROUGH YOUR WIFE, AND
THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT WOULD

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SHOW IT TO YOU LATER.


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BUT I DON'T WANT
TO SKIP AHEAD.

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SO IN THE WOMB --


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YOU WERE IN THE WOMB,


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YOUR MOM HAD MAJOR SURGERY,
AND YOUR MOM DIDN'T KNOW

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SHE WAS PREGNANT.


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LEIF: YEAH.


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REBECCA: AND SHE DIDN'T
FIND OUT UNTIL?

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LEIF: AFTERWARDS.


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REBECCA: AFTERWARDS.


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AND SO SHE WAS
NERVOUS AND SCARED.

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AND SO THAT'S WHERE FEAR
REALLY BEGAN TO ENTER YOUR

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LIFE EVEN THEN.


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LEIF: AND SOME PEOPLE ASK ME
BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN ME

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SPEAKING TO STADIUMS OR
SEE ME WRITING BOOKS

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AND EVERYTHING.


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HEY, WHERE DID YOU
GET THIS LOVE FROM?

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OR YOU'RE LOVING MUSLIMS,


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AND YOU'RE LOVING
THE RADICAL.

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I SAID, FEAR THAT'S
WHERE THIS STARTED.

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SO IF YOU START TO SAY,
WHY DOES THE ENEMY TRY TO

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KILL THE BABY BOYS?


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OH, MOSES, THE
DELIVERER IS COMING.

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WHY IS THE ENEMY TRYING
TO KILL THE BABY BOYS?

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OH, JESUS THE
SAVIOR IS COMING.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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LEIF: SO IF IT STARTS
TO TRACE BACK AGAIN.

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BECAUSE FROM HEAVEN,


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THAT'S WHY I STARTED
WITH THE IDENTITY.

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WHO WAS LEIF HETLAND
BEFORE THE FOUNDATION

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OF THE WORLD?


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AND THAT'S WHO GOD SAW.


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AND EVEN WITH A
CONCEPTION OF THAT,

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THERE WAS NO COINCIDENCE.


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THERE WAS 50 MILLION SPERM
CELLS ALL THE WAY ON THE

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RACE TOWARDS A
DROPPING EGG CELL.

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AND I WON THE RACE.


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AND SO DID YOU.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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LEIF: SO YOU STARTED
OUT AS A WINNER,

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BUT THEN THE ENEMY
RECOGNIZING SOMETHING

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ABOUT YOU, AND HE'S
TRYING TO STOP DESTINY.

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AND FOR SOME, IT HAPPENED
IN THE MOTHER'S WOMB.

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OTHER ONES THROUGH LIFE THINGS
HAPPENED OR FEAR COMES IN,

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SHAME COMES IN, GUILT
COMES IN, THINGS HAPPEN.

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AND SUDDENLY IN
THE NEXT MOMENT,

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THE ENEMY TRIED
TO RELABEL US,

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THERE CAN BE TRAUMA.


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IT COULD BE THINGS
THAT HAPPENED.

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AND WE HAVE THE
WRONG LABEL,

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AND WE GET OUR
IDENTITY IN SOME OF

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THOSE THINGS THAT
EITHER HAPPEN TO US OR

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PEOPLE DID, CIRCUMSTANCES.


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AND IT STARTS
TO AFFECT US.

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SO WHEN JESUS CAME,
IT WAS NOT JUST TO

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SAVE US FROM SOMETHING,


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BUT IT WAS TO SAVE
US TO SOMETHING.

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AND IT WAS TO RESTORE ALL
OF THE THINGS THAT THE

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ENEMY HAS STOLEN.


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SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.


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SO I WENT THROUGH LIFE AND
THEN LATER ON I WAS ABOUT

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12 YEARS OLD, AND I PRETTY
MUCH WAS INNOCENT

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AND GODLY FAMILY,
GODLY PARENTS.

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THEN A GROWN MAN
WAS ATTACKING ME,

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TRIED TO TEAR OFF
ALL OF MY CLOTHES.

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A BIG GUY, AND THIS -- HE
WAS TRYING TO RAPE ME.

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AND THEN SUDDENLY NOW
SHAME CAME IN AND GUILT

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AND I COULDN'T
TALK ABOUT IT.

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SO YOU COVER UP.


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REBECCA: DID YOU
KNOW THE GUY?

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LEIF: WELL, SORT OF.


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I WAS ACTUALLY DOING
GROCERY SHOPPING FOR

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SOMEONE BECAUSE A FRIEND
OF MINE SAYS, HEY,

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I CAN'T DO IT.


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I NORMALLY DO GROCERY
SHOPPING FOR THIS,

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THIS GUY.


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AND SO HE HAD
SOME HANDICAP,

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BUT HE WAS -- I WEIGHED
MAYBE A HUNDRED POUNDS.

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HE WAS LIKE 240 POUNDS.


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AND I WAS GOING TO SIT
DOWN THERE TO GET --

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HE WAS GOING TO PAY


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ME A LITTLE BIT
FOR GOING

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AND DO THE GROCERY
SHOPPING.

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AND THEN SUDDENLY HE
STARTED TO ATTACK.

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SO I HAD ALL, I WAS
ABLE TO ESCAPE,

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BUT I HAD ALL THIS TRAUMA.


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AND THEN YOU FEEL SHAME
AND YOU FELT GUILT

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AND YOU FELT DIRTY.


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YOU HADN'T DONE
ANYTHING WRONG,

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BUT THE ENEMY CAME IN.


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SO HE WAS TRYING TO
STEAL MY IDENTITY.

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SO WHAT IS MY MESSAGE
ALL ABOUT TODAY?

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IDENTITY.


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WHAT IS MY MESSAGE?


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IT'S ABOUT IS
ELIMINATING AND

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GET RID OF FEAR,
SHAME, AND GUILT.

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THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG
GIANTS THAT I FACED AND

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I'VE HAD TO FACE.


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SO, SO SOMETIMES IF IT
WAS NOT FOR GOLIATH,

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DAVID WOULD HAVE ONLY
BEEN ANOTHER SHEPHERD BOY.

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SO ON OUR JOURNEY
TOWARDS OUR DESTINY,

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WE FACE DIFFERENT GIANTS.


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AND IN THIS THING, FOR ME,
THERE WAS THAT INCIDENT.

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AND FOR ME, THEN THE
PAIN IN YOUR LIFE,

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YOU'RE LOOKING
FOR PLEASURE.

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YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING TO MEDICATE

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BECAUSE YOU HAVE PAIN.


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AND FOR ME, I DIDN'T KNOW
BECAUSE CHURCH DIDN'T KNOW

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HOW TO HANDLE IT.


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I COULDN'T TALK ABOUT IT.


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SO I STARTED TO TRY TO MEDICATE,
ALCOHOL, LATER ON

00:09:03.867 --> 00:09:06.467
DRUGS AND ANYTHING THAT
I COULD BECAUSE I DIDN'T

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WANT TO FEEL THIS PAIN.


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REBECCA: SO FROM THE MOMENT
THAT YOU SUFFERED THAT TRAUMA,

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YOU WERE STRUGGLING WITH
THAT AND YOU COULDN'T --

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YOU DIDN'T KNOW
HOW TO FIX --

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IT CAUSED PAIN AND
SHAME AND GUILT.

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BECAUSE A LOT OF
TIMES WHAT HAPPENS WITH

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SHAME IS EVEN THOUGH
YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING,

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THAT YOU DIDN'T DO
ANYTHING TO DESERVE THAT.

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THE MESSAGE,
IT'S SO WEIRD.

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I DON'T KNOW
WHY WE DO THIS.

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BUT WHEN SOMETHING
HAPPENS TO US,

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WE FEEL SHAME AND
WE BLAME OURSELVES.

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AND SO YOU HAD THAT
COME IN ON YOU.

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AND SO WHEN YOU GOT
A LITTLE BIT OLDER,

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YOU GOT INTO DRUGS
AND ALCOHOL TO TRY TO

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MEDICATE, SELF-MEDICATE.


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LEIF: YEAH, YEAH.


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REBECCA: BECAUSE NOTHING
ELSE WAS WORKING.

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LEIF: THAT'S RIGHT.


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AND IT IS PART
OF WHY PEOPLE,

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IF THAT'S PORNOGRAPHY, IF
IT IS DRUGS OR ALCOHOL,

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A LOT OF THE THINGS WE SEE
OF SELF-MEDICATION OUT THERE

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IS CONNECTED TO ROOT
ISSUES THAT IS TAKING

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PLACE THAT HAS NEVER
BEEN DEALT WITH.

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REBECCA: YES, THAT
IS SO IMPORTANT.

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THE ROOT ISSUE IS A
LOT OF TIMES THAT IS

00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.433
JUST A COVER-UP.


00:09:58.533 --> 00:10:00.033
IT'S TRYING TO MEDICATE
SOMETHING AND THEY DON'T --

00:10:00.133 --> 00:10:01.067
PEOPLE DON'T EVEN
KNOW THE ROOT

00:10:01.167 --> 00:10:02.534
OF WHAT'S CAUSING
THAT BEHAVIOR.

00:10:02.634 --> 00:10:03.534
AND IT'S SO --


00:10:03.634 --> 00:10:04.600
ONE OF THE THINGS I
WANT TO SAY IS LIKE,

00:10:04.700 --> 00:10:06.500
THIS IS SO COMMON AND I
THINK WHEN YOU GROW

00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:07.633
UP IN THE
CHURCH WORLD,

00:10:07.733 --> 00:10:10.166
THERE CAN BE SUCH A FOCUS
ON OUTWARD BEHAVIOR THAT

00:10:10.266 --> 00:10:12.167
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
TALK ABOUT THE HEART

00:10:12.267 --> 00:10:13.433
AND THE ROOT PROBLEM,


00:10:13.533 --> 00:10:15.467
AND WE NEED TO GET TO
THE ROOT PROBLEM

00:10:15.567 --> 00:10:17.266
BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
WHO HAVE ROOT PROBLEMS,

00:10:17.366 --> 00:10:19.434
AND THEY'RE JUST REALLY
GOOD PERFORMING CHRISTIANS.

00:10:19.534 --> 00:10:20.500
LEIF: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:21.333
REBECCA: AND ON THE
OUTSIDE YOU THINK, WOW,

00:10:21.433 --> 00:10:22.100
THEY'RE GREAT AND
THEY'RE PERFECT,

00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:23.500
BUT THEY'RE BROKEN INSIDE.


00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.367
SO WHETHER IT'S
YOUR, YOU KNOW,

00:10:25.467 --> 00:10:28.467
INTO DRUGS OR PORN OR FOOD
OR WHATEVER YOU'RE USING TO

00:10:28.567 --> 00:10:32.700
SELF-MEDICATE OR YOU'RE A
PERFORMER, YOU KNOW,

00:10:32.800 --> 00:10:34.433
THESE -- THE THINGS THAT WE
SHARE IS THAT THERE'S

00:10:34.533 --> 00:10:36.767
BROKENNESS AND GOD WANTS
TO GET TO THE ROOT BECAUSE

00:10:36.867 --> 00:10:39.266
HE WANTS HIS CHILDREN
TO BE IN FREEDOM.

00:10:39.366 --> 00:10:40.933
SO DID YOU EVER TELL
ANYBODY ABOUT WHAT

00:10:41.033 --> 00:10:42.700
HAPPENED TO YOU, OR DID
YOU KEEP IT SECRET?

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LEIF: I KEPT IT SECRET
EVEN TO MY ADULT YEARS.

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YEAH, SO IT WAS --


00:10:46.334 --> 00:10:47.833
AND EVENTUALLY
WHEN I WAS 18,

00:10:47.933 --> 00:10:50.500
AND IT'S A LONG STORY,
I WAS A PRODIGAL SON

00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:52.700
AFTER BEING KICKED OUT OF
A BOARDING SCHOOL.

00:10:52.800 --> 00:10:54.466
REBECCA: WHAT DRUGS
DID YOU GET INTO?

00:10:54.566 --> 00:10:56.367
LEIF: PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING
THAT I COULD GET HOLD OF.

00:10:56.467 --> 00:10:58.734
BUT BACK THEN, THE HEROIN
AND FENTANYL WAS NOT THAT

00:10:58.834 --> 00:10:59.900
BIG IN NORWAY.


00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.300
IT WAS PRIMARILY IN OSLO
AND SOME OTHER MAJOR PLACES.

00:11:02.400 --> 00:11:05.367
SO TODAY I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN
EVEN WORSE SHAPE BECAUSE

00:11:05.467 --> 00:11:07.733
OF THE METHAMPHETAMINES
AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

00:11:07.833 --> 00:11:10.633
SO I THINK THAT AT THAT TIME,
IT WAS JUST ANYTHING

00:11:10.733 --> 00:11:12.700
THAT YOU COULD GET HOLD OF
OF DRUGS JUST TO GET HIGH

00:11:12.800 --> 00:11:16.067
OR DRUNK, OR BECAUSE IT
JUST WENT DOWN THE SPIRAL.

00:11:16.167 --> 00:11:17.633
REBECCA: AND SO YOUR
PARENTS WERE TRYING TO --

00:11:17.733 --> 00:11:19.133
YOU JUST -- DID YOU RUN
AWAY FROM HOME?

00:11:19.233 --> 00:11:20.066
LEIF: NO, I DIDN'T RUN.


00:11:20.166 --> 00:11:21.667
BUT THEY SENT ME
TO A BOARDING SCHOOL.

00:11:21.767 --> 00:11:22.700
THEY TRIED TO
GET ME BETTER.

00:11:22.800 --> 00:11:23.834
I HAD BEEN ARRESTED WHEN --


00:11:23.934 --> 00:11:24.934
JUST GOT IN JAIL


00:11:25.034 --> 00:11:25.767
WHEN I WAS 15.


00:11:25.867 --> 00:11:27.300
MY MOM CAME AND
PICKED ME UP.

00:11:27.400 --> 00:11:29.300
LATER ON, THAT'S WHEN
THEY REALIZED, OH,

00:11:29.400 --> 00:11:30.234
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.


00:11:30.334 --> 00:11:31.400
AND THEY, THEY
COULD SEE IT,

00:11:31.500 --> 00:11:32.933
BUT THEY ALSO
WANTED TO DENY.

00:11:33.033 --> 00:11:34.400
BUT THEY SAW THE SPIRAL.


00:11:34.500 --> 00:11:36.467
SO THEY DECIDED TO TRAVEL
ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO GET

00:11:36.567 --> 00:11:37.667
ME TO A BOARDING
SCHOOL.

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WITHIN A WEEK,


00:11:39.033 --> 00:11:41.100
I FOUND OTHER ORPHANS WITH
ORPHAN SPIRITS THAT ARE HURT.

00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:42.934
AND HURT PEOPLE HURTS
PEOPLE.

00:11:43.034 --> 00:11:43.733
SO WE --


00:11:43.833 --> 00:11:44.767
REBECCA: AND YOU ATTRACT LIKE.


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LEIF: YEAH, WE
ATTRACT LIKE.

00:11:46.300 --> 00:11:49.067
AND SO WE GOT TOGETHER AND
A WEEK LATER GOT CAUGHT

00:11:49.167 --> 00:11:51.466
FOR BOTH BUYING THE DRUGS
AND USING DRUGS AND GOT

00:11:51.566 --> 00:11:53.167
KICKED OUT, IT
HIT THE NEWSPAPER.

00:11:53.267 --> 00:11:55.400
AND I CAME FROM A GOOD,
GODLY FAMILY AND NOW

00:11:55.500 --> 00:11:57.367
AGAIN, NOW YOU'VE SHAMED
YOUR FAMILY AND THE ENEMY

00:11:57.467 --> 00:11:59.600
TRIED MORE TO
BLACKMAIL YOU.

00:11:59.700 --> 00:12:01.134
SO NOW YOU'RE
JUST LIKE, HEY,

00:12:01.234 --> 00:12:02.233
YOU CANNOT BE
AROUND YOUR FAMILY,

00:12:02.333 --> 00:12:03.467
YOU CANNOT.


00:12:03.567 --> 00:12:04.900
BUT IT STARTED A
JOURNEY WITH ME

00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:06.333
THAT KIND OF WHAT
A PRODIGAL SON.

00:12:06.433 --> 00:12:08.067
MAYBE IT IS
BETTER TO BE HOME,

00:12:08.167 --> 00:12:10.334
EVEN IF I HAVE NOTHING
THAN BEING IN THE PARK IN

00:12:10.434 --> 00:12:12.400
OSLO AND HAVE
NO PLACE TO BE.

00:12:12.500 --> 00:12:15.000
AND EVENTUALLY, IT WAS ALSO
ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES WHEN

00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:18.433
MY FATHER EMBRACED ME
AND SHOWED AFFECTION.

00:12:18.533 --> 00:12:20.833
MY NATURAL FATHER, THAT I
THINK STARTED MY JOURNEY

00:12:20.933 --> 00:12:23.633
TO MEET JESUS, LATER ON,
THE JESUS THEY KNEW.

00:12:23.733 --> 00:12:25.000
SO THIS LED ACTUALLY
A FEW MONTHS

00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:28.134
LATER TO MY
SALVATION IN 1984.

00:12:28.234 --> 00:12:29.667
REBECCA: OH, SO YOU GREW
UP IN A CHRISTIAN HOME,

00:12:29.767 --> 00:12:31.233
BUT YOU DIDN'T GET
SAVED UNTIL LATER?

00:12:31.333 --> 00:12:32.633
LEIF: NO, I DIDN'T GET
SAVED BECAUSE AGAIN

00:12:32.733 --> 00:12:35.566
OF THE -- THAT THING THAT
HAPPENED WHEN I WAS 12.

00:12:35.666 --> 00:12:38.334
IT BROUGHT ME INTO THE
PRODIGAL SON TENDENCY.

00:12:38.434 --> 00:12:39.600
AND THEN I HAD
A VIEW OF GOD,

00:12:39.700 --> 00:12:41.000
HOW COULD YOU
LET THAT HAPPEN,

00:12:41.100 --> 00:12:42.566
GOD, IF YOU'RE A GOOD GOD.


00:12:42.666 --> 00:12:45.267
SO AS WELL AS THE CHURCH
ALSO REFLECTED A GOD THAT

00:12:45.367 --> 00:12:46.866
DIDN'T LOOK LIKE JESUS.


00:12:46.966 --> 00:12:48.166
SO THERE IS
MORE JUST, HEY,

00:12:48.266 --> 00:12:50.600
YOU JUST RUN TO THE
ALTAR AND GET WELL

00:12:50.700 --> 00:12:51.833
OR YOU PRAY
YOUR PRAYER.

00:12:51.933 --> 00:12:54.366
SO I COULDN'T REALLY
OPEN UP, I DIDN'T.

00:12:54.466 --> 00:12:56.167
THERE WAS NOT MUCH OF
THINGS THAT COULD HELP

00:12:56.267 --> 00:12:57.600
THOSE DEEPEST AREAS.


00:12:57.700 --> 00:12:58.600
AND I DIDN'T EVEN
THINK ABOUT IT.

00:12:58.700 --> 00:13:02.566
I JUST WANTED SOMETHING
TO FIX MY PAIN.

00:13:02.666 --> 00:13:05.367
REBECCA: DID YOUR FATHER,
SO HE WAS NOT AS AFFECTIONATE

00:13:05.467 --> 00:13:06.633
GROWING UP AS WELL?


00:13:06.733 --> 00:13:07.467
LEIF: NO.


00:13:07.567 --> 00:13:08.600
MY FATHER IS A
GREAT, GREAT GUY.

00:13:08.700 --> 00:13:10.133
HE'S STILL ALIVE TODAY,
BUT HE CAME FROM SECOND

00:13:10.233 --> 00:13:12.933
WORLD WAR, BORN IN
NORWAY, CAME FROM A PLACE

00:13:13.033 --> 00:13:14.166
I PROVIDE FOR YOU.


00:13:14.266 --> 00:13:15.100
WE PROTECT.


00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:16.700
SO HE'S A GOOD --


00:13:16.800 --> 00:13:17.400
AND WITH THE GRANDKIDS,


00:13:17.500 --> 00:13:18.566
HE'S AMAZING.


00:13:18.666 --> 00:13:20.900
BUT FOR ME, AT THAT MOMENT
WHEN YOU NEEDED AFFECTION

00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.334
OR PERHAPS AFFIRMATION OR
SOME OF THE BASIC NEEDS

00:13:23.434 --> 00:13:24.433
THAT YOU HAVE.


00:13:24.533 --> 00:13:25.734
AND THAT'S PART OF THE
THING I'M DEALING WITH,

00:13:25.834 --> 00:13:28.067
ORPHAN SPIRIT, SOME
OF THOSE ROOT ISSUES THAT

00:13:28.167 --> 00:13:30.400
IS MISSING THAT
ALSO SOMETIMES,

00:13:30.500 --> 00:13:32.367
AGAIN CONNECTED
WITH PAPA GOD.

00:13:32.467 --> 00:13:34.300
TODAY, I CALL HIM PAPA,
AS YOU WILL FIND LATER

00:13:34.400 --> 00:13:35.100
ON IN THE STORY.


00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:36.600
BUT AT THAT TIME PERIOD,


00:13:36.700 --> 00:13:40.600
SO EVEN WHEN I MET JESUS,
I GOT GLORIOUSLY SAVED.

00:13:40.700 --> 00:13:43.133
AND JESUS HEALED
ME AND SET ME FREE.

00:13:43.233 --> 00:13:44.800
NOW, AFTER WHAT JESUS
HAS DONE FOR ME,

00:13:44.900 --> 00:13:46.367
I LOVED JESUS.


00:13:46.467 --> 00:13:49.400
BUT SOMEHOW I WAS
SAVED FROM SOMETHING.

00:13:49.500 --> 00:13:52.167
I JUST STILL DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT I WAS SAVED TO.

00:13:52.267 --> 00:13:54.500
SO IF YOU REMEMBER, THE
BIBLE SAYS JESUS IS THE WAY.

00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:55.700
OKAY, WAY TO WHERE?


00:13:55.800 --> 00:13:57.200
SO I'M ON A JOURNEY, BUT
I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S

00:13:57.300 --> 00:13:58.234
SUPPOSED TO LEAD ME TO.


00:13:58.334 --> 00:13:59.167
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:13:59.267 --> 00:14:00.566
LEIF: I'M THE TRUTH,
TRUTH ABOUT WHAT?

00:14:00.666 --> 00:14:01.567
JESUS SAID,


00:14:01.667 --> 00:14:02.366
IF YOU HAVE SEEN ME,
YOU HAVE SEEN WHAT?

00:14:02.466 --> 00:14:03.833
THE FATHER.


00:14:03.933 --> 00:14:05.500
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW,
SO IT WAS --

00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:07.667
I'M COMING HERE AND HAVING
A GLORIOUS SALVATION

00:14:07.767 --> 00:14:09.500
EXPERIENCE THAT
I'M MEETING JESUS.

00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:12.200
BUT SOMEHOW THE GOSPEL
MESSAGE WAS A HALF MESSAGE

00:14:12.300 --> 00:14:13.300
THAT I HAD.


00:14:13.400 --> 00:14:15.033
IT WAS A GOSPEL MESSAGE
THAT NEVER DEALT WITH

00:14:15.133 --> 00:14:17.800
THE ROOT ISSUES IN MY LIFE
AND NEVER GAVE ME A HOME.

00:14:17.900 --> 00:14:20.300
SO IN A SENSE, YOU CAN HAVE
A HOUSE WITHOUT A HOME,

00:14:20.400 --> 00:14:22.533
BUT I DON'T HAVE
THE SECURITY, THE LOVE,

00:14:22.633 --> 00:14:24.634
THE VALUE, THE PURPOSE,
THE AFFIRMATION,

00:14:24.734 --> 00:14:26.433
THE BASIC THINGS
THAT ARE NEEDED.

00:14:26.533 --> 00:14:28.400
AND I HAVE A
SHATTERED SOUL.

00:14:28.500 --> 00:14:29.767
SO I STILL HAVE
TRAUMA IN MY LIFE.

00:14:29.867 --> 00:14:32.400
SO YOU HAVE SOME OF THOSE
THINGS THAT -- SO I HAD A GOSPEL

00:14:32.500 --> 00:14:35.333
THAT TOOK CARE OF THE
PARTIAL ISSUE, SIN.

00:14:35.433 --> 00:14:37.500
BUT WHAT ABOUT FEAR, SHAME
AND GUILT AND SOME OF

00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:38.633
THOSE OTHER THINGS?


00:14:38.733 --> 00:14:40.400
SO FOR ME, THAT WAS ANOTHER
PART OF THE JOURNEY.

00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:43.166
SO FOR ME, AND OFTEN WHAT
HAPPENED WITH US THEN,

00:14:43.266 --> 00:14:46.634
NOW YOU GO TO BECOME A
GOOD PRODIGAL BROTHER.

00:14:46.734 --> 00:14:47.733
SO YOU'RE GETTING
OUT THERE,

00:14:47.833 --> 00:14:49.400
OH, NO, BECAUSE OF WHAT
JESUS HAS DONE FOR ME,

00:14:49.500 --> 00:14:50.867
I'M GOING TO SERVE HIM.


00:14:50.967 --> 00:14:53.267
SO IF I DO SOMETHING,
I HAVE SOMETHING.

00:14:53.367 --> 00:14:54.533
I BECOME SOMETHING.


00:14:54.633 --> 00:14:57.933
WELCOME TO THE ORPHAN WORLD
WHERE THE ORPHAN MAKER,

00:14:58.033 --> 00:15:00.700
LUCIFER HIMSELF,
JUST LOVES FOR US TO GET

00:15:00.800 --> 00:15:03.066
ON THE PERFORMANCE
TREADMILL OF FEELING WE

00:15:03.166 --> 00:15:05.333
HAVE TO DO, TO
HAVE TO BECOME.

00:15:05.433 --> 00:15:06.967
AND THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED WITH ME.

00:15:07.067 --> 00:15:08.766
REBECCA: AND WHAT
ENDS UP HAPPENING IS,

00:15:08.866 --> 00:15:11.433
IS WHEN YOU'RE IN THIS
PERFORMANCE MENTALITY

00:15:11.533 --> 00:15:14.400
AND CHRISTIANITY, AND I
STRUGGLED WITH THIS MYSELF.

00:15:14.500 --> 00:15:18.000
YOU'RE LIVING IN FEAR
AND YOU WILL -- IT WILL

00:15:18.100 --> 00:15:20.667
EVENTUALLY LEAD TO BURNOUT
OF SOME KIND OR EVEN

00:15:20.767 --> 00:15:22.200
FALLING INTO SIN
BECAUSE YOU'RE RUNNING

00:15:22.300 --> 00:15:23.467
YOURSELF SO RAGGED.


00:15:23.567 --> 00:15:25.866
YOU'RE NOT LIVING
FROM THE LOVE OF GOD.

00:15:25.966 --> 00:15:28.867
YOU'RE TRYING TO PERFORM
TO EARN THE LOVE OF GOD.

00:15:28.967 --> 00:15:29.933
LEIF: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:15:30.033 --> 00:15:31.967
REBECCA: SO YOU'RE NOT
RECEIVING IT ACTIVELY.

00:15:32.067 --> 00:15:35.467
SO YOU GET SAVED AT 18,
BUT LIKE YOU SAID,

00:15:35.567 --> 00:15:36.667
YOU KNOW, WHEN
WE GET SAVED,

00:15:36.767 --> 00:15:38.233
OUR SPIRIT IS SAVED,


00:15:38.333 --> 00:15:40.633
BUT THE SOUL
NEEDS HEALING

00:15:40.733 --> 00:15:43.533
AND IT NEEDS SANCTIFICATION.


00:15:43.633 --> 00:15:46.067
BUT, YOU KNOW, GOD HAS
TO COME IN AND FIX THE

00:15:46.167 --> 00:15:48.733
FRAGMENTS WITHIN OUR SOUL
AND GO BACK INTO THOSE

00:15:48.833 --> 00:15:52.133
TRAUMAS AND THOSE THE
LIES THAT WE BELIEVE.

00:15:52.233 --> 00:15:53.433
NOT JUST THE PAIN
THAT WE EXPERIENCED,

00:15:53.533 --> 00:15:55.066
BUT THE LIES
THAT WE CONNECT.

00:15:55.166 --> 00:15:56.567
YOU KNOW, SO MANY TIMES
WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING

00:15:56.667 --> 00:15:59.467
BAD HAPPEN TO THEM, IT
WRECKS THEIR SELF-WORTH OR

00:15:59.567 --> 00:16:02.067
THEY IDENTIFY THAT
THEY'RE DIRTY OR NASTY.

00:16:02.167 --> 00:16:04.067
THIS IS SO -- I HEAR THIS
STORY ALL THE TIME.

00:16:04.167 --> 00:16:06.667
IT'S SO COMMON AND SO
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW,

00:16:06.767 --> 00:16:08.400
IT'S ONE THING TO BE SAVED
AND TO KNOW YOU'RE GOING

00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:10.434
TO HEAVEN, BUT
GOD, LIKE YOU SAID,

00:16:10.534 --> 00:16:12.333
HE IS SO MUCH MORE
FOR US THAN US.

00:16:12.433 --> 00:16:13.933
THERE'S A WHOLE
INHERITANCE.

00:16:14.033 --> 00:16:16.267
AND SO WHAT I LOVE ABOUT
THIS IS IN YOUR STORY IS

00:16:16.367 --> 00:16:19.600
THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO WALK
INTO THAT PROMISES THAT HE

00:16:19.700 --> 00:16:21.700
HAS FOR US HERE AND
NOW, HERE ON EARTH.

00:16:21.800 --> 00:16:23.333
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO
WAIT UNTIL HEAVEN.

00:16:23.433 --> 00:16:24.900
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING.

00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.666
IT'S LIKE, I WANT YOU TO
LIVE IN FREEDOM AND TO LIVE,

00:16:27.766 --> 00:16:29.600
BECAUSE WHAT'S SO
COOL ABOUT YOUR STORY IS

00:16:29.700 --> 00:16:31.767
WHEN YOU BEGIN TO GET
THAT INNER HEALING,

00:16:31.867 --> 00:16:35.200
GOD WAS ABLE TO MAKE SUCH
A BIGGER IMPACT THROUGH YOU

00:16:35.300 --> 00:16:37.133
BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T
PERFORMING OUT.

00:16:37.233 --> 00:16:39.000
YOU WERE LETTING HIS
LOVE FLOW THROUGH YOU.

00:16:39.100 --> 00:16:41.034
YOU WERE JUST LIKE
A FLOWING RIVER.

00:16:41.134 --> 00:16:41.900
LEIF: COME ON.


00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:42.567
REBECCA: SO LET'S GET
YOU THERE.

00:16:42.667 --> 00:16:43.500
SO YOU'RE 18.


00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:44.334
YOU GET SAVED.


00:16:44.434 --> 00:16:45.233
WERE YOU IN NORWAY?


00:16:45.333 --> 00:16:45.867
HOW DID YOU GET SAVED?


00:16:45.967 --> 00:16:46.700
LEIF: I WAS IN NORWAY.


00:16:46.800 --> 00:16:47.867
IT WAS KIND OF
A LITTLE STRANGE.

00:16:47.967 --> 00:16:49.933
I JOINED A CHRISTIAN
THEATER COMPANY

00:16:50.033 --> 00:16:51.100
CALLED COVENANT PLAYERS.


00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:52.333
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.


00:16:52.433 --> 00:16:54.300
LEIF: SO I STUCK WITH HIM AND
IT WAS ACTUALLY THROUGH A

00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:57.067
PLAY ON FORGIVENESS THAT
SOMEBODY PERFORMED.

00:16:57.167 --> 00:17:00.533
AND WE WERE STUDYING THE
PLAY ABOUT FORGIVENESS.

00:17:00.633 --> 00:17:04.100
SOMETHING TOUCHED ME AND
AT THAT MOMENT I REALIZED

00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.066
THAT FORGIVING
GOD, ACTUALLY,

00:17:07.166 --> 00:17:09.167
I FORGAVE MY DAD, FORGAVE
ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE

00:17:09.267 --> 00:17:10.800
THAT HAD HURT
AND WOUNDED ME.

00:17:10.900 --> 00:17:12.033
AND SUDDENLY GOD
DEALT WITH THE ROOT

00:17:12.133 --> 00:17:13.200
ISSUE OF FORGIVENESS.


00:17:13.300 --> 00:17:15.634
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I
RECEIVED JESUS FIRST OF

00:17:15.734 --> 00:17:17.600
ALL, TO FORGIVE ME
FOR ALL OF MY SIN

00:17:17.700 --> 00:17:18.834
AND ALL THE THINGS
I'VE DONE.

00:17:18.934 --> 00:17:20.600
AND THEN I STARTED TO SEE
HOW I'VE DISHONORED

00:17:20.700 --> 00:17:21.733
MY MOM AND DAD.


00:17:21.833 --> 00:17:24.433
AND I TOOK RESPONSIBILITY
FOR ALL OF THE THINGS I

00:17:24.533 --> 00:17:26.133
DID BECAUSE OF THE PAIN.


00:17:26.233 --> 00:17:28.100
SO THAT STARTED MY
JOURNEY WITH JESUS,

00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:30.800
THAT HE WAS SO GRACIOUS
AND HOW HE FORGAVE ME

00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:32.333
AND THEN I STARTED
TO FORGIVE.

00:17:32.433 --> 00:17:34.434
HE GAVE ME MERCY AND I
STARTED TO GIVE MERCY.

00:17:34.534 --> 00:17:35.900
AND THIS STARTED A
JOURNEY WITH HIM.

00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.600
BUT, BUT SO I RECEIVED
JESUS IN GERMANY

00:17:38.700 --> 00:17:40.467
AFTER ONE OF
THOSE PLAYS.

00:17:40.567 --> 00:17:42.767
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I WAS
STILL TRAVELING WITH

00:17:42.867 --> 00:17:45.867
A THEATER COMPANY, CAME
TO AMERICA, AND AGAIN.

00:17:45.967 --> 00:17:49.133
BUT AGAIN ON THE INSIDE,
YOU'RE SERVING HIM.

00:17:49.233 --> 00:17:50.933
YOU ARE NOW,
AS THE SAYING,

00:17:51.033 --> 00:17:53.567
IN THE NEXT MOMENT, I'M
PERFORMING FOR LOVE

00:17:53.667 --> 00:17:55.134
BECAUSE I STILL HAVE THIS
THING ON THE INSIDE,

00:17:55.234 --> 00:17:56.834
AFTER WHAT JESUS
HAS DONE FOR ME.

00:17:56.934 --> 00:17:59.000
AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG
WITH THIS IN ITSELF.

00:17:59.100 --> 00:18:01.566
BUT I'M GOING TO DO
ANYTHING FOR HIM.

00:18:01.666 --> 00:18:03.834
I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE
MYSELF WHOLEHEARTED FOR HIM.

00:18:03.934 --> 00:18:06.500
I'M GOING TO SERVE HIM,
AND I'M GOING TO PLEASE HIM.

00:18:06.600 --> 00:18:08.033
AND THEN WHEN YOU
CONSTANTLY HAVE TO DO

00:18:08.133 --> 00:18:10.334
SOMETHING TO PLEASE HIM,
NOT KNOWING YOU ARE

00:18:10.434 --> 00:18:12.200
PLEASING TO HIM.


00:18:12.300 --> 00:18:14.400
SO YOU'RE ALWAYS
LIVING FROM A MEASURE

00:18:14.500 --> 00:18:16.866
THAT YOU NEVER LIVE
UP TO FULLNESS.

00:18:16.966 --> 00:18:20.433
AND THAT WAY OF LIVING,
THEN JUST CONTINUED TO BE.

00:18:20.533 --> 00:18:22.233
YOU GO TO BED AND
YOU ARE RESTLESS.

00:18:22.333 --> 00:18:25.367
YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING
AND THEN IN THE NEXT MOMENT,

00:18:25.467 --> 00:18:26.867
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT,


00:18:26.967 --> 00:18:28.233
I NEED TO DO THIS
TO PLEASE HIM,

00:18:28.333 --> 00:18:30.300
BECAUSE THEN THE FATHER IS
GOING TO BE WELL PLEASED.

00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.133
SO IF I BECOME LIKE JESUS,


00:18:33.233 --> 00:18:35.967
SO AGAIN, HOLINESS,
IF THAT WAS THE WORD,

00:18:36.067 --> 00:18:38.767
ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO
TO TRY TO BECOME LIKE HIM.

00:18:38.867 --> 00:18:40.100
SO YOU'RE TRYING HARDER.


00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.700
YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE
WHAT YOU ONLY CAN RECEIVE.

00:18:42.800 --> 00:18:43.767
SO YOU'RE SAVED BY GRACE,


00:18:43.867 --> 00:18:46.133
BUT EVERYTHING AFTER
THAT IT SUDDENLY BECOMES

00:18:46.233 --> 00:18:47.500
PERFORMANCE-BASED,
WORK-BASED.

00:18:47.600 --> 00:18:50.333
AND IT'S WHAT I DO INSTEAD
OF WHAT JESUS HAS DONE.

00:18:50.433 --> 00:18:51.900
AND THIS LED TO A
JOURNEY WHERE I, OH,

00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.800
I'M CALLED NOW
TO MINISTRY.

00:18:53.900 --> 00:18:55.967
SO I WENT TO BIBLE COLLEGE
WHILE I WAS A YOUTH PASTOR,

00:18:56.067 --> 00:18:58.400
THEN BECAME A PASTOR
AND DID A LITTLE

00:18:58.500 --> 00:18:59.533
BIT OF BUSINESS.


00:18:59.633 --> 00:19:02.900
BUT AGAIN, AND THEN MET MY
WIFE AND AGAIN REALIZED,

00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.567
I'M IN HERE WITH
MY ORPHAN SPIRIT,

00:19:04.667 --> 00:19:06.266
COMING IN WHEN I
DON'T DO ENOUGH.

00:19:06.366 --> 00:19:07.833
EVENTUALLY SHE
DOESN'T DO ENOUGH.

00:19:07.933 --> 00:19:10.167
NOBODY ELSE DOES ENOUGH
BECAUSE EVERYONE DID,

00:19:10.267 --> 00:19:11.000
THEN YOU HAVE TO PERFORM.


00:19:11.100 --> 00:19:12.500
AND IF YOU DO NOT PERFORM


00:19:12.600 --> 00:19:13.933
FOR LOVE, MEANING IF
YOU DON'T LIVE UP

00:19:14.033 --> 00:19:15.934
TO MY EXPECTATION, I GET
DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE

00:19:16.034 --> 00:19:18.100
THAT'S WHAT GOD
DOES WITH ME.

00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:20.233
REBECCA: SO THAT'S ONE OF THE
THINGS WITH AN ORPHAN SPIRIT.

00:19:20.333 --> 00:19:23.134
IS THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU
HOLD YOURSELF TO THIS

00:19:23.234 --> 00:19:25.500
CRAZY STANDARD AND YOU'RE
WANTING TO PERFORM,

00:19:25.600 --> 00:19:27.300
BUT YOU LOOK AT EVERYONE
AROUND YOU AND THEY CAN'T

00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:28.733
FILL THAT VOID.


00:19:28.833 --> 00:19:29.800
LEIF: VOID, YEAH.


00:19:29.900 --> 00:19:31.133
REBECCA: SO THEY'RE A
DISAPPOINTMENT TO YOU.

00:19:31.233 --> 00:19:32.400
LEIF: YEAH.


00:19:32.500 --> 00:19:33.867
REBECCA: AND I MEAN, THE THING
ABOUT MARRIAGE IS MARRIAGE

00:19:33.967 --> 00:19:36.067
WILL SHOW ALL
YOUR WEAK SPOTS,

00:19:36.167 --> 00:19:38.633
ALL YOUR BLIND SPOTS,
ALL THE BROKENNESS,

00:19:38.733 --> 00:19:41.467
BECAUSE MARRIAGE
MAKES YOU HOLY.

00:19:41.567 --> 00:19:43.634
IF YOU ALLOW GOD TO
DO THAT WITHIN YOU.

00:19:43.734 --> 00:19:45.800
BUT I KNOW FOR ME, WHEN I
GOT MARRIED, IT WAS LIKE,

00:19:45.900 --> 00:19:47.100
WHOA, OH MY GOODNESS.


00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.933
I DIDN'T REALIZE I
HAD ALL THESE ISSUES,

00:19:50.033 --> 00:19:51.434
BUT THANK GOD FOR
A LOVING SPOUSE

00:19:51.534 --> 00:19:53.033
AND FOR THE MERCY
AND GRACE.

00:19:53.133 --> 00:19:56.300
AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT
TO GET BETTER AND YOU

00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:58.766
REALLY HUMBLE YOURSELF
BEFORE GOD, HE WILL.

00:19:58.866 --> 00:20:00.367
THAT'S WHAT HE
WANTS TO DO.

00:20:00.467 --> 00:20:02.933
SO DID YOU SEE PROBLEMS IN
YOUR MARRIAGE BECAUSE OF

00:20:03.033 --> 00:20:04.000
THE ORPHAN SPIRIT?


00:20:04.100 --> 00:20:05.434
LEIF: YEAH, I THINK
WHEN I'M --

00:20:05.534 --> 00:20:06.300
ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M


00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:07.934
LOOKING BACK AT
THAT TIME PERIOD,

00:20:08.034 --> 00:20:09.334
BECAUSE IN THE
ORPHAN SPIRIT

00:20:09.434 --> 00:20:11.367
IS SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAULT.


00:20:11.467 --> 00:20:12.300
REBECCA: OH, NO.


00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:13.333
SO AND THEN YOU CAN'T
GET ANY BETTER

00:20:13.433 --> 00:20:14.867
IF YOU DON'T
TAKE OWNERSHIP.

00:20:14.967 --> 00:20:16.633
LEIF: BECAUSE AGAIN,


00:20:16.733 --> 00:20:19.400
AGAIN, WHERE YOU'RE
PUTTING CERTAIN EXPECTATION.

00:20:19.500 --> 00:20:20.200
MARILYN HICKEY,


00:20:20.300 --> 00:20:21.267
I JUST WAS THINKING
ABOUT HER.

00:20:21.367 --> 00:20:22.033
I WAS DOING THIS TV


00:20:22.133 --> 00:20:24.367
PROGRAM WITH
HER IN DENVER.

00:20:24.467 --> 00:20:26.234
AND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT
YOU GUYS KNOW MARILYN.

00:20:26.334 --> 00:20:27.433
REBECCA: I LOVE HER.


00:20:27.533 --> 00:20:29.300
LEIF: AND SO HER AND SARAH,
WE WERE SITTING TOGETHER,

00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:31.033
AND THEN IN THE NEXT
MOMENT SHE SAID, TELL ME

00:20:31.133 --> 00:20:33.934
HOW IS IF YOU HAVE
ORPHANS IN MARRIAGE?

00:20:34.034 --> 00:20:36.300
SHE SAID, SO IF YOU HAVE --
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE

00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:37.267
IN MARRIAGE?


00:20:37.367 --> 00:20:38.533
AND I SAID, IT'S LIKE
HAVING TWO TICKS,

00:20:38.633 --> 00:20:40.067
BUT NO DOG.


00:20:40.167 --> 00:20:40.900
REBECCA: BECAUSE
THEY JUST WANT TO

00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:41.600
SUCK THE LIFE, THE LIGHT.


00:20:41.700 --> 00:20:42.566
LEIF: SUCK THE LIFE, YEAH.


00:20:42.666 --> 00:20:43.800
AND I JUST, I DIDN'T
REALIZE I SAID IT.

00:20:43.900 --> 00:20:45.300
AND I COULD SEE SHE
WAS LIKE IN SHOCK.

00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:46.733
HOW COULD YOU SAY
THAT ON TELEVISION?

00:20:46.833 --> 00:20:47.534
REBECCA: NO, I LOVE IT.


00:20:47.634 --> 00:20:48.300
LEIF: IT JUST CAME OUT
OF ME,

00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:49.400
BUT IT IS THE TRUTH.


00:20:49.500 --> 00:20:51.367
IT'S REALLY WHAT'S
HAPPENING LIKE BECAUSE

00:20:51.467 --> 00:20:53.434
IT'S EITHER YOU GIVE ME,
TOUCH ME, BLESS ME.

00:20:53.534 --> 00:20:55.034
YOU'RE HERE TO
MEET MY NEEDS.

00:20:55.134 --> 00:20:57.300
BECAUSE IF I DON'T GET IT
FROM PAPA GOD AND I DON'T

00:20:57.400 --> 00:20:59.600
HAVE WHOLENESS THERE,
THEN I'M LOOKING WITH

00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:02.433
EXPECTATION THAT SOMEBODY
ELSE IS PLACED IN THERE

00:21:02.533 --> 00:21:05.167
AND MEET MY NEEDS
AND MY EXPECTATION.

00:21:05.267 --> 00:21:06.333
AND WHEN THEY
DON'T DO THAT,

00:21:06.433 --> 00:21:09.767
THEN SUDDENLY SOMETHING IS
WRONG WITH THEM BECAUSE

00:21:09.867 --> 00:21:12.533
AND THEN THAT SPIRAL
GOES DOWNWARDS.

00:21:12.633 --> 00:21:15.200
AND SO AND THEN
WHEN YOU'RE HURT,

00:21:15.300 --> 00:21:16.867
THEN HURT PEOPLE
STARTS TO HURT PEOPLE.

00:21:16.967 --> 00:21:17.767
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:21:17.867 --> 00:21:18.667
LEIF: AND THEN WHEN
YOU HAVE KIDS,

00:21:18.767 --> 00:21:19.833
YOU THINK THAT'S
GOING TO BE BETTER.

00:21:19.933 --> 00:21:22.500
SO IT'S LIKE IN THE NEXT
MOMENT IT IS THE SAME THING.

00:21:22.600 --> 00:21:23.900
AND NOW IF YOU
ARE AN ORPHAN FATHER

00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.500
IN THAT SENSE, THEN YOU
DON'T WANT THEM TO FAIL.

00:21:26.600 --> 00:21:28.300
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO

00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:29.433
THROUGH WITH THAT,


00:21:29.533 --> 00:21:30.834
AND YOU DON'T REALIZE
THAT IT'S FEAR-BASED.

00:21:30.934 --> 00:21:31.767
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:21:31.867 --> 00:21:32.800
LEIF: AND EVEN RAISING
THEM IS FEAR,

00:21:32.900 --> 00:21:35.166
SHAME OR GUILT-BASED
THE WAY YOU DO IT.

00:21:35.266 --> 00:21:36.634
SO THEY BETTER
THEN BEHAVE.

00:21:36.734 --> 00:21:38.667
AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT
ME AND MY MINISTRY AND

00:21:38.767 --> 00:21:41.900
EVERYTHING ELSE AND
ALL OF THAT SILLINESS.

00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.600
AND THEN SO IT
WAS NOT REALLY --

00:21:43.700 --> 00:21:47.366
AND THEN THE BIG STORY IS
WHEN I MET THE HOLY SPIRIT,

00:21:47.466 --> 00:21:48.466
IT'S KIND OF FUN.


00:21:48.566 --> 00:21:50.733
I WAS A BAPTIST PASTOR IN
NORWAY AT THE TIME, AND,

00:21:50.833 --> 00:21:52.733
AND RANDY CLARK WAS COMING
TO OUR LITTLE BAPTIST

00:21:52.833 --> 00:21:54.833
CHURCH, ACTUALLY, NOT
TO OUR BAPTIST CHURCH,

00:21:54.933 --> 00:21:57.300
BUT HE WAS DOING IT
IN A SMALL CHURCH,

00:21:57.400 --> 00:21:58.133
A PASTOR'S MEETING,


00:21:58.233 --> 00:21:59.400
AND THEN THERE WAS
A BIG MEETING.

00:21:59.500 --> 00:22:02.600
THIS IS AFTER TORONTO,
A YEAR AFTER TORONTO,

00:22:02.700 --> 00:22:03.366
AND THEN THE --


00:22:03.466 --> 00:22:04.000
REBECCA: THE
TORONTO REVIVAL.

00:22:04.100 --> 00:22:05.166
LEIF: THE REVIVAL, YES.


00:22:05.266 --> 00:22:06.166
REBECCA: FOR THOSE WHO DON'T
KNOW THAT ARE LISTENING.

00:22:06.266 --> 00:22:07.300
LEIF: YEAH, SO THAT
WAS IN '94.

00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:08.900
THERE WAS AN OUTPOURING
OF GOD'S SPIRIT.

00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.600
AND NOW HERE A GROUP OF
SALVATION ARMY, METHODIST,

00:22:11.700 --> 00:22:13.733
BAPTISTS, LUTHERAN,
DIFFERENT ONES OF US.

00:22:13.833 --> 00:22:16.200
HE WAS JUST SHARING HIS
TESTIMONY AND STORY.

00:22:16.300 --> 00:22:18.434
BUT THE THING I LIKE ABOUT
RANDY, HE'S AUTHENTIC,

00:22:18.534 --> 00:22:20.267
VERY REAL AND
VERY VULNERABLE.

00:22:20.367 --> 00:22:21.300
SO YOU COME FROM HUMILITY.


00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:22.533
SO I COULD RELATE TO THAT.


00:22:22.633 --> 00:22:24.333
IF HE JUST TALKED
ABOUT HIS SUCCESSES,

00:22:24.433 --> 00:22:25.533
I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO RELATE BECAUSE I

00:22:25.633 --> 00:22:27.167
HAD A LOT OF BROKENNESS.


00:22:27.267 --> 00:22:29.100
SO WHEN HE SAID,
WOULD YOU LIKE PRAYER?

00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:31.634
AND WE STOOD IN A LINE THERE
AND I KIND WAS NERVOUS

00:22:31.734 --> 00:22:33.967
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THAT IN
MY BAPTIST CHURCH.

00:22:34.067 --> 00:22:36.434
AND HE HELD OUT HIS HAND
LIKE MORE, LORD, BLESS HIM.

00:22:36.534 --> 00:22:37.467
AND WHEN HE HOLD
OUT HIS HAND,

00:22:37.567 --> 00:22:38.300
HE DIDN'T TOUCH THEM.


00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:39.300
POWER OF GOD HIT,


00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.000
AND THEY ENDED UP ON
THE FLOOR.

00:22:41.100 --> 00:22:42.033
AND I'M LIKE,
WHAT IS HAPPENING?

00:22:42.133 --> 00:22:43.200
THAT'S THE LUTHERAN PASTOR.


00:22:43.300 --> 00:22:44.300
I KNOW HE WOULDN'T
DO THAT.

00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:46.233
OR HERE'S THE METHODIST
OR HERE'S THE --

00:22:46.333 --> 00:22:47.800
AND ONE AFTER THE OTHER
ENDED UP ON THE FLOOR.

00:22:47.900 --> 00:22:49.667
AND I'M GETTING MORE AND
MORE TENSE BECAUSE HE'S

00:22:49.767 --> 00:22:50.867
HEADING TOWARDS ME.


00:22:50.967 --> 00:22:52.600
REBECCA: AND THAT CAN BE
SCARY AT THE MOMENT.

00:22:52.700 --> 00:22:53.400
LEIF: IT WAS A LITTLE BIT.


00:22:53.500 --> 00:22:54.300
REBECCA: BECAUSE
IT'S UNFAMILIAR.

00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:55.067
LEIF: YEAH, AND THEN
HE CAME TO ME.

00:22:55.167 --> 00:22:56.400
YOU ARE A BULLDOZER.


00:22:56.500 --> 00:22:58.800
I'M THINKING, NO,
I'M A BAPTIST PASTOR.

00:22:58.900 --> 00:23:00.033
I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH
ABOUT PROPHECY.

00:23:00.133 --> 00:23:01.900
AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO
INTO THE DARKEST PLACES IN

00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.034
THE WORLD WHERE THE GOSPEL
HAS NEVER BEEN BEFORE.

00:23:04.134 --> 00:23:05.633
I MEAN, HE SAID,
HE PRESENTED,

00:23:05.733 --> 00:23:07.534
AND IT'S LIKE THE AMAZON
JUNGLE WITH DARKNESS,

00:23:07.634 --> 00:23:08.833
AND I'M LIKE A BULLDOZER.


00:23:08.933 --> 00:23:10.700
AND HE DESCRIBED AND THE NEXT
MOMENT I'M ON THE FLOOR.

00:23:10.800 --> 00:23:13.800
FIRE, ELECTRICITY AND
THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT.

00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:15.900
WHEN I CAME UP FROM THAT
FLOOR AFTER TWO HOURS OF

00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.067
AN ENCOUNTER WITH A FIRE
AND THE POWER OF GOD,

00:23:19.167 --> 00:23:20.967
I CAME UP FROM
THAT VERY PLACE.

00:23:21.067 --> 00:23:22.000
AND AGAIN,
SIGNS, WONDERS,

00:23:22.100 --> 00:23:24.367
AND MIRACLES STARTED TO
BREAK LOOSE.

00:23:24.467 --> 00:23:25.434
SIX MONTHS AFTERWARDS,


00:23:25.534 --> 00:23:27.333
I'M IN THE MIDDLE
EAST, IN PAKISTAN,

00:23:27.433 --> 00:23:29.667
AND WE STARTED TO SEE
LAME PEOPLE WALKING,

00:23:29.767 --> 00:23:31.900
BLIND PEOPLE SEEING ALL
THESE MIRACLES HAPPENING.

00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:32.967
REBECCA: WAIT, WAIT,
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

00:23:33.067 --> 00:23:34.067
I GOT TO STOP
YOU RIGHT THERE.

00:23:34.167 --> 00:23:36.967
SO YOU, HE
PRAYS FOR YOU.

00:23:37.067 --> 00:23:38.134
YOU END UP
ON THE FLOOR.

00:23:38.234 --> 00:23:39.766
DID YOU REALIZE YOU WERE
ON THE FLOOR FOR TWO HOURS?

00:23:39.866 --> 00:23:42.634
LEI: WELL, AFTERWARDS, AFTER
I LOOKED AT THE WATCH,

00:23:42.734 --> 00:23:43.667
BUT IT WAS LIKE
I WAS STILL FOR --

00:23:43.767 --> 00:23:45.467
REBECCA: WHAT WAS GOING
ON IN THAT MOMENT?

00:23:45.567 --> 00:23:46.833
LEIF: WELL, THERE WAS
DIFFERENT THINGS,

00:23:46.933 --> 00:23:48.567
BUT IT WAS ELECTRICITY.


00:23:48.667 --> 00:23:51.433
LIKE MY WHOLE BODY FELT
LIKE SOMEBODY PLUGGED IN

00:23:51.533 --> 00:23:52.767
AND I'M JUST SHAKING.


00:23:52.867 --> 00:23:53.733
AND THEN IT WAS FIRE.


00:23:53.833 --> 00:23:56.267
I WAS SWEATING,
FIRE BURNING, I FELT.

00:23:56.367 --> 00:23:57.200
I'M BURNING UP.


00:23:57.300 --> 00:23:58.500
AND THEN IT WAS LIKE
ELECTRICITY AGAIN

00:23:58.600 --> 00:23:59.600
AND THEN FIRE.


00:23:59.700 --> 00:24:02.634
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WITH
MY GOOD BAPTIST MIND WHAT

00:24:02.734 --> 00:24:03.733
WAS GOING ON.


00:24:03.833 --> 00:24:05.933
I MEAN, I'M VERY HIGHLY
INTELLECTUAL IN ALL OF

00:24:06.033 --> 00:24:08.166
THE WAYS I'M RAISED TO,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS

00:24:08.266 --> 00:24:09.733
BEING BAPTIZED IN
THE HOLY SPIRIT

00:24:09.833 --> 00:24:11.767
AND FIRE EMERGED.


00:24:11.867 --> 00:24:15.034
SO THE HOLY SPIRIT,
I HAD HIM IN ME,

00:24:15.134 --> 00:24:16.167
WHICH IS FOR MYSELF.


00:24:16.267 --> 00:24:18.234
BUT THE SPIRIT UPON ME IS
FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND ME.

00:24:18.334 --> 00:24:20.000
SO YOU SHALL RECEIVE POWER
WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT

00:24:20.100 --> 00:24:21.267
COMES UPON YOU.


00:24:21.367 --> 00:24:23.000
THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED THAT DAY.

00:24:23.100 --> 00:24:24.300
REBECCA: WAS YOUR WIFE
WITH YOU THERE?

00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:27.033
LEIF: YEAH, SHE WAS, BUT SHE WAS
THE ONLY ONE STANDING OF ALL

00:24:27.133 --> 00:24:28.000
THE ONES IN THE ROOM.


00:24:28.100 --> 00:24:30.233
I MEAN, ALL OF US
THERE IN THE MEETING.

00:24:30.333 --> 00:24:31.933
AND SHE'S ALSO A GOOD
SOUTHERN BAPTIST GIRL.

00:24:32.033 --> 00:24:34.833
SO ANYWAY, SO WE -- SHE
WAS ALSO IN THAT MEETING,

00:24:34.933 --> 00:24:36.900
BUT SOMETHING STARTED
TO SHIFT IN MY LIFE

00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:40.034
THERE WITH POWER AND
THAT STARTED SUCCESS IN

00:24:40.134 --> 00:24:41.733
MINISTRY IN A WHOLE
DIFFERENT LEVEL.

00:24:41.833 --> 00:24:43.000
REBECCA: WILL YOU
DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT OF

00:24:43.100 --> 00:24:44.233
WHAT THAT WAS LIKE?


00:24:44.333 --> 00:24:46.633
LEIF: YEAH, I MEAN, THE
BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT,

00:24:46.733 --> 00:24:50.633
BECAUSE WHEN I LEFT THAT
LITTLE TOWN AND CAME BACK

00:24:50.733 --> 00:24:53.133
AGAIN WHERE I PASTOR,
THERE WAS A GROUP OF

00:24:53.233 --> 00:24:55.066
ALCOHOLICS, DRUG ADDICTS
SITTING IN A PLACE THAT I

00:24:55.166 --> 00:24:57.333
USED TO WALK
BY AS A PASTOR,

00:24:57.433 --> 00:24:58.900
AND I USED TO MAYBE GIVE
HIM A LITTLE COIN OR

00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:01.167
SOMETHING, JUST
AS A HANDOUT.

00:25:01.267 --> 00:25:04.133
BUT I WALKED BY THE ONE GUY
AND IN THE NEXT MOMENT

00:25:04.233 --> 00:25:05.767
THE PRESENCE OF
GOD JUST HIT HIM.

00:25:05.867 --> 00:25:08.567
AND HE HADN'T HAD
HEROIN THAT MORNING.

00:25:08.667 --> 00:25:10.500
AND SO HE WAS LAYING
THERE SICK, SHAKING.

00:25:10.600 --> 00:25:12.800
AND IN A MOMENT,
AND HE DESCRIBED IT,

00:25:12.900 --> 00:25:14.700
BUT HE AT THAT MOMENT, THE
PRESENCE OF GOD JUST HIT HIM.

00:25:14.800 --> 00:25:16.200
I JUST WALKED BY
LIKE I NORMALLY WALK.

00:25:16.300 --> 00:25:18.333
REBECCA: IT'S LIKE THAT STORY
OF PETER WHERE HE WALKED BY.

00:25:18.433 --> 00:25:20.867
LEIF: YEAH, AND AGAIN, FOR
ME IT WAS LIKE WHAT JUST?

00:25:20.967 --> 00:25:21.867
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE

00:25:21.967 --> 00:25:22.933
LANGUAGE FOR IT


00:25:23.033 --> 00:25:23.666
AS A GOOD BAPTIST.


00:25:23.766 --> 00:25:24.800
REBECCA: NO.


00:25:24.900 --> 00:25:25.967
LEIF: BUT IT'S LIKE THE
PRESENCE OF GOD HIT HIM

00:25:26.067 --> 00:25:27.300
AND HE DESCRIBED IT.


00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.300
HE SAID, HE DESCRIBED IT AS THE
BEST HEROIN HE'D EVER TRIED,

00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:31.333
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT'S A GOOD TESTAMENT.

00:25:31.433 --> 00:25:33.633
BUT PRETTY MUCH WHAT HE
DESCRIBED WAS THIS PEACE,

00:25:33.733 --> 00:25:35.000
AND I KNEW THAT'S JESUS.


00:25:35.100 --> 00:25:37.000
SO HE WAS ONE OF
THE FIRST ONES.

00:25:37.100 --> 00:25:39.667
AND THEN WE HAD AN IRANIAN
REFUGEE THAT HAD COME INTO

00:25:39.767 --> 00:25:41.333
NORWAY AND HE
GOT DELIVERED.

00:25:41.433 --> 00:25:43.334
DEMONS CAME OUT JUST COMING
AROUND THE PRESENCE.

00:25:43.434 --> 00:25:44.934
REBECCA: HOW DID YOU
KNOW WHAT TO DO?

00:25:45.034 --> 00:25:47.333
LEIF: I WAS LEARNING BECAUSE
I DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT

00:25:47.433 --> 00:25:48.200
OF PEOPLE.


00:25:48.300 --> 00:25:49.233
I WAS JUST LEARNING
THAT, OOPS,

00:25:49.333 --> 00:25:50.767
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?


00:25:50.867 --> 00:25:51.667
AND THEN I STARTED --


00:25:51.767 --> 00:25:53.000
AND THEN I HAD -- A
FEW WEEKS LATER,

00:25:53.100 --> 00:25:54.800
A GUY FROM YOUTH WITH
A MISSION,

00:25:54.900 --> 00:25:56.067
YOU ARE A BULLDOZER.


00:25:56.167 --> 00:25:57.200
AND HE DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT RANDY,

00:25:57.300 --> 00:25:58.833
YOU'RE GOING TO GO
INTO THE DARKEST PLACES IN

00:25:58.933 --> 00:26:01.100
THE WORLD WHERE THE GOSPEL
HAS NEVER BEEN BEFORE.

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:02.334
YOU'RE GOING
TO MAKE A WAY

00:26:02.434 --> 00:26:04.234
AND A MILLION MUSLIMS ARE
GOING TO COME TO JESUS

00:26:04.334 --> 00:26:05.434
BECAUSE OF YOU.


00:26:05.534 --> 00:26:07.500
REBECCA: WHAT DID YOU THINK
OF THOSE MOMENTS?

00:26:07.600 --> 00:26:08.466
ARE YOU FREAKED OUT?


00:26:08.566 --> 00:26:10.167
LEIF: IT IS FREAKED
OUT BECAUSE AGAIN,

00:26:10.267 --> 00:26:12.600
HERE I'M IN A TOWN OF
30,000 PEOPLE

00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:15.034
AND YOU HAVE THESE NUMBER
OF MILLION OR YOU HAVE.

00:26:15.134 --> 00:26:16.533
IT DOESN'T MAKE
SENSE FOR MY MIND.

00:26:16.633 --> 00:26:18.866
IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW
MUSLIMS, I DIDN'T --

00:26:18.966 --> 00:26:20.267
REBECCA: YEAH, YOU'RE
IN NORWAY.

00:26:20.367 --> 00:26:21.866
LEIF: I'M IN NORWAY, IN
THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

00:26:21.966 --> 00:26:23.966
SO IT'S LIKE
NOTHING MADE SENSE.

00:26:24.066 --> 00:26:26.600
BUT THEN GOD STARTED TO
SET UP THE DESTINY BECAUSE

00:26:26.700 --> 00:26:29.433
BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF
THE WORLD, HE KNEW ME.

00:26:29.533 --> 00:26:31.900
AND I WAS PREDESTINED IN
LOVE AND HE HAD A PURPOSE,

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.134
AND HE HAD A
PLAN FOR MY LIFE.

00:26:33.234 --> 00:26:35.833
BUT SIN HAD MADE ME
FALL SHORT OF GLORY.

00:26:35.933 --> 00:26:38.634
WHAT GOD WANTED TO DO WAS
TO SEND JESUS TO RESTORE

00:26:38.734 --> 00:26:42.033
ME BACK AGAIN TO GLORY,
TO WHOLENESS, TO SHALOM,

00:26:42.133 --> 00:26:43.567
THE VERY PLACE THAT
HE HAD INTENDED

00:26:43.667 --> 00:26:44.666
FROM THE BEGINNING.


00:26:44.766 --> 00:26:46.633
SO I DIDN'T KNOW THIS
WAS PART OF MY JOURNEY.

00:26:46.733 --> 00:26:48.133
AND THIS WENT ON
FOR A WHILE NOW

00:26:48.233 --> 00:26:50.800
AS I STARTED TO TRAVEL
AROUND THE WORLD AND DOING

00:26:50.900 --> 00:26:52.767
CRUSADES IN AFRICA,
IN THE MIDDLE EAST,

00:26:52.867 --> 00:26:53.867
AND DIFFERENT THINGS.


00:26:53.967 --> 00:26:55.033
REBECCA: DID THE
DOORS JUST OPEN?

00:26:55.133 --> 00:26:56.000
LEIF: YEAH, IT WAS


00:26:56.100 --> 00:26:57.700
A STRANGE INCIDENCE
BECAUSE I HAD A --

00:26:57.800 --> 00:26:59.133
BECAUSE OF THE
WORD OVER MY LIFE,

00:26:59.233 --> 00:27:02.200
I HAD THIS PAKISTANI FROM
THE PERSECUTED CHURCH THAT

00:27:02.300 --> 00:27:03.867
VISITED NORWAY
SIX MONTHS LATER

00:27:03.967 --> 00:27:05.400
AFTER THIS ENCOUNTER.


00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:06.666
AND A FRIEND
OF MINE SAID, HEY,

00:27:06.766 --> 00:27:08.734
THERE'S THIS PAKISTANI,
WOULD YOU LET HIM SPEAK IN

00:27:08.834 --> 00:27:09.900
YOUR BAPTIST CHURCH?


00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.666
AND NORMALLY, I
WOULD HAVE SAID NO.

00:27:11.766 --> 00:27:13.800
I MEAN, IF I DON'T KNOW
HIS THEOLOGY OR,

00:27:13.900 --> 00:27:16.500
BUT BECAUSE THE WORD
OVER MY LIFE, OH,

00:27:16.600 --> 00:27:17.833
PAKISTAN IS A DARK PLACE.


00:27:17.933 --> 00:27:18.934
AND IF I HAVE A WORD,


00:27:19.034 --> 00:27:20.700
THEN MAYBE THIS IS
SOMETHING,

00:27:20.800 --> 00:27:21.967
AND I LET HIM SPEAK.


00:27:22.067 --> 00:27:23.800
AND HE'S STILL MY
COORDINATOR TODAY,

00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:24.767
28 YEARS LATER.


00:27:24.867 --> 00:27:25.567
REBECCA: WHAT?


00:27:25.667 --> 00:27:26.333
THAT IS WILD.


00:27:26.433 --> 00:27:27.567
LEIF: YEAH.


00:27:27.667 --> 00:27:28.933
REBECCA: SO GOD KIND OF
ARRANGED AND SET SOMETHING UP.

00:27:29.033 --> 00:27:29.800
LEIF: CONSTANTLY.


00:27:29.900 --> 00:27:31.234
HE SET UP AND FIVE
MONTHS LATER,

00:27:31.334 --> 00:27:32.934
HE ORGANIZED THE
FIRST MEETING.

00:27:33.034 --> 00:27:34.700
AND THERE IS ONE THING I
HAVE TO SHARE, REBECCA.

00:27:34.800 --> 00:27:35.933
REBECCA: OKAY, SHARE IT.


00:27:36.033 --> 00:27:37.033
LEIF: BECAUSE THIS WAS LATE
AT ONE NIGHT AND THERE WAS

00:27:37.166 --> 00:27:40.634
THIS WOMAN THAT OPENED UP
THE BURQA AND WE HAD SEEN

00:27:40.734 --> 00:27:42.500
QUADRIPLEGIC, BLIND EYES,


00:27:42.600 --> 00:27:44.567
INCREDIBLE, THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE JUST

00:27:44.667 --> 00:27:45.867
HAVE AN ENCOUNTER
WITH JESUS.

00:27:45.967 --> 00:27:48.634
THE FIRST MAJOR EVENT IN
THE MIDDLE EAST THAT I DID.

00:27:48.734 --> 00:27:50.433
BUT THIS NIGHT, ONE WOMAN
OPENED UP HER BURQA,

00:27:50.533 --> 00:27:53.867
AND SHE SAID, HOW LONG HAVE
YOU KNOWN ABOUT THIS JESUS?

00:27:53.967 --> 00:27:55.033
BECAUSE MY HUSBAND, HE DIED.


00:27:55.133 --> 00:27:57.200
HE NEVER GOT TO KNOW ABOUT
JESUS AND MY SON HE DIED.

00:27:57.300 --> 00:27:58.067
HE NEVER GOT TO HEAR.


00:27:58.167 --> 00:27:58.967
REBECCA: OH, NO.


00:27:59.067 --> 00:28:00.167
LEIF: WHY DIDN'T YOU
COME EARLIER?

00:28:00.267 --> 00:28:01.166
WHY DIDN'T YOU
COME EARLIER?

00:28:01.266 --> 00:28:02.133
AND ALL I COULD
THINK ABOUT

00:28:02.233 --> 00:28:03.934
BECAUSE I'VE
BEEN DISTRACTED.

00:28:04.034 --> 00:28:06.700
AND AT THAT DAY, I
DEDICATED MY LIFE TO BE

00:28:06.800 --> 00:28:09.000
ABLE TO PLACE MYSELF
IN AN OFFERING PLATE.

00:28:09.100 --> 00:28:10.733
AND I WILL LIVE
FOR ONE PURPOSE,

00:28:10.833 --> 00:28:13.833
MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE
IS GOING TO KNOW THIS

00:28:13.933 --> 00:28:15.567
GOSPEL, THIS GOOD NEWS.


00:28:15.667 --> 00:28:17.800
SO THAT STARTED MY
DEDICATION OF BEING THE

00:28:17.900 --> 00:28:20.133
BULLDOZER, GOING INTO
THE DARKEST PLACES,

00:28:20.233 --> 00:28:22.867
BUT IS THAT I KEEP A PICTURE
OF THAT LADY IN THE --

00:28:22.967 --> 00:28:24.300
IN MY OFFICE
STILL TODAY.

00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:26.434
I HAVE AN OLD PICTURE AND
AN OLD VIDEO FROM THAT

00:28:26.534 --> 00:28:30.600
TIME WHERE SAYING THAT'S, THAT'S
WHAT I GIVE MY LIFE FOR.

00:28:30.700 --> 00:28:34.600
BUT NOW THE ENEMY CAME IN,
ENDED UP WITH AN INJURY.

00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:36.500
FIRST A COMPRESSION
FRACTURE IN MY NECK,

00:28:36.600 --> 00:28:37.667
LATER ON A
CAR ACCIDENT.

00:28:37.767 --> 00:28:39.466
WE MOVED BACK AGAIN
TO THE STATES.

00:28:39.566 --> 00:28:40.900
SO I KNOW THIS IS
JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK

00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.100
HIGHLIGHTS, BUT THIS
LED TO ME EVENTUALLY

00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:45.233
NOW GOING ALL
OVER THE WORLD,

00:28:45.333 --> 00:28:48.500
BUILDING A MINISTRY, BEING
PART OF A MEGACHURCH,

00:28:48.600 --> 00:28:50.867
I DO, I HAVE, I BECOME.


00:28:50.967 --> 00:28:53.267
SO IF I DO MORE, I HAVE
MORE, I BECOME MORE.

00:28:53.367 --> 00:28:56.033
SO IF WE HAD 20,000 PEOPLE,
NEXT TIME 25,000,

00:28:56.133 --> 00:28:58.933
WE GET SO MUCH, THEN WE --
THE ORPHAN.

00:28:59.033 --> 00:29:02.333
AND WHEN I'M COMING HOME,
MY WIFE GETS THE LEFTOVER.

00:29:02.433 --> 00:29:04.566
I COULD BE IN THE MEETING
AND THE DOVE COMES

00:29:04.666 --> 00:29:05.534
AND A VISIT.


00:29:05.634 --> 00:29:06.900
BUT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE
VISITATION OF THE

00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.834
PRESENCE, NOT HABITATION,


00:29:08.934 --> 00:29:10.466
IF YOU'RE AN ORPHAN
ON THE INSIDE.

00:29:10.566 --> 00:29:12.167
BECAUSE WHEN
YOU'RE NOT AT REST,

00:29:12.267 --> 00:29:14.766
THE HOLY SPIRIT DON'T FIND
A RESTING PLACE TO REST.

00:29:14.866 --> 00:29:17.034
YOU CAN ONLY HAVE
VISITATION SO I HAD --

00:29:17.134 --> 00:29:18.267
SO I LIVED IN DESPERATION.


00:29:18.367 --> 00:29:20.067
OH, I NEED YOU,
JESUS, AN ORPHAN

00:29:20.167 --> 00:29:21.133
OFTEN LIVING THAT WAY.


00:29:21.233 --> 00:29:23.434
AND THEN HE SHOWS UP
JUST OUT OF HIS GOODNESS

00:29:23.534 --> 00:29:25.600
AND GRACE AND
THINGS HAPPEN.

00:29:25.700 --> 00:29:27.100
BUT THEN IN THE
NEXT MOMENT,

00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.267
WHEN MONDAY COMES ALONG,
AFTER THE WEEKEND IS OVER,

00:29:30.367 --> 00:29:32.500
YOU FEEL BAD, AND THEN
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT

00:29:32.600 --> 00:29:34.634
I NEED TO DO AGAIN
TO HAVE TO BECOME,

00:29:34.734 --> 00:29:37.000
BECAUSE THAT'S THE VALUE
SYSTEM IN THE ORPHAN WORLD.

00:29:37.100 --> 00:29:39.167
AND NOTHING HAD STILL
DEALT WITH THAT.

00:29:39.267 --> 00:29:42.233
SO THIS WAS KIND OF A
JOURNEY THEN FROM '95 ALL

00:29:42.333 --> 00:29:45.334
THE WAY TO DECEMBER OF
99, WHERE EVENTUALLY,

00:29:45.434 --> 00:29:47.667
BECAUSE OF THE
ACCIDENTS, SURGERY,

00:29:47.767 --> 00:29:48.933
I WAS SITTING
IN A WHEELCHAIR.

00:29:49.033 --> 00:29:51.700
MY BABY GIRL CATHERINE
WAS SITTING ON MY LAP IN

00:29:51.800 --> 00:29:53.467
DISNEY WORLD, AND IT
STARTED TO RAIN AND I'M

00:29:53.567 --> 00:29:54.766
SITTING THERE
WITH CATHERINE,

00:29:54.866 --> 00:29:57.733
AND I REALIZED I CANNOT
DO ANYTHING ANY LONGER.

00:29:57.833 --> 00:29:59.100
MY BODY IS BROKEN,


00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.300
EMOTIONALLY, I'M BROKEN.


00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:01.867
FINANCIALLY,
SPIRITUAL, EVERYTHING.

00:30:01.967 --> 00:30:03.933
WE'VE JUST BEEN KICKED OUT
OF THE BAPTIST CHURCH.

00:30:04.033 --> 00:30:05.734
I HAVE A WIFE AND
FOUR CHILDREN.

00:30:05.834 --> 00:30:06.834
MY WIFE IS HURTING.


00:30:06.934 --> 00:30:08.533
MY KIDS ARE HURTING.


00:30:08.633 --> 00:30:09.833
OUR FRIENDS ARE HURTING.


00:30:09.933 --> 00:30:11.034
I'M HURTING AND I
DIDN'T REALIZE

00:30:11.134 --> 00:30:12.867
I AM THE ROOT ISSUE.


00:30:12.967 --> 00:30:13.767
IT'S KIND OF A JONAH.


00:30:13.867 --> 00:30:15.100
YOU HAVE ALL THESE
STORMS THERE ARE.

00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.734
YOU DON'T REALIZE YOU ARE
THE ONES THAT ARE STILL

00:30:17.834 --> 00:30:19.900
OPERATING WITH
THAT ORPHAN SPIRIT.

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.700
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN
DENNIS JERNIGAN,

00:30:22.800 --> 00:30:25.400
I WAS INVITED TO COME TO
THIS MEETING IN MELBOURNE,

00:30:25.500 --> 00:30:28.234
FLORIDA, AND ONE FROM
TEXAS WHO I KNOW YOUR MOM

00:30:28.334 --> 00:30:30.166
KNOWS, WAS PLAYING
THE PIANO.

00:30:30.266 --> 00:30:32.534
AND HE SAYS, LEIF, I HAVE
A SONG FOR YOU AND

00:30:32.634 --> 00:30:33.933
IT IS A DADDY SONG.


00:30:34.033 --> 00:30:37.133
AND THAT STARTED THE
TRANSFORMATION THAT WENT IN.

00:30:37.233 --> 00:30:39.500
AND THAT'S THE DAY WHEN
THE LIQUID LOVE WAS COMING

00:30:39.600 --> 00:30:41.400
OVER ME IN FRONT OF A
HUNDRED LEADERS.

00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:43.000
SUDDENLY, IT WAS
A WAVE OF LOVE.

00:30:43.100 --> 00:30:44.767
REBECCA: OH, IT HAPPENED IN
FRONT OF A HUNDRED PEOPLE.

00:30:44.867 --> 00:30:45.566
LEIF: A HUNDRED
PEOPLE, YEAH.

00:30:45.666 --> 00:30:47.000
WE WERE IN A
ROOM OF LEADERS.

00:30:47.100 --> 00:30:48.100
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.


00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:48.800
LEIF: JACK TAYLOR,


00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:50.367
WHO'S MY SPIRITUAL FATHER.


00:30:50.467 --> 00:30:53.100
IT WAS THE DAY HE ALSO
BECAME MY SPIRITUAL FATHER.

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:54.266
REBECCA: WHY DOES THAT NAME
SOUND SO FAMILIAR?

00:30:54.366 --> 00:30:56.200
LEIF: BECAUSE HE'S KIND OF
A LEGEND HERE IN TEXAS.

00:30:56.300 --> 00:30:57.266
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:30:57.366 --> 00:30:58.300
LEIF: SO HE IS LIKE A
SPIRITUAL PAPA TO A LOT,

00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.467
JACK TAYLOR.


00:30:59.567 --> 00:31:02.500
AND HE WAS THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTHERN

00:31:02.600 --> 00:31:04.766
BAPTIST CONVENTION AND,
AND WITH JAMES ROBISON

00:31:04.866 --> 00:31:05.267
BACK IN THE DAYS.


00:31:05.367 --> 00:31:06.367
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:31:06.467 --> 00:31:08.100
LEIF: SO HE HAS A LONG
HISTORY AND BUT ALSO LIKE

00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.033
A SPIRITUAL PAPA TO
TORONTO AND A LOT OF

00:31:10.133 --> 00:31:13.067
MOVEMENTS LIKE RANDY CLARK
AND OTHER ONES, YEAH.

00:31:13.167 --> 00:31:14.967
BUT THAT DAY AND I STILL
GET TEARS ABOUT IT.

00:31:15.067 --> 00:31:17.666
BUT DECEMBER OF '99,
PAPA GOD IS ABOUT TO

00:31:17.766 --> 00:31:19.200
RESCUE ME FROM ME.


00:31:19.300 --> 00:31:23.566
I KNEW JESUS, I KNEW
THE HOLY SPIRIT,

00:31:23.666 --> 00:31:25.300
BUT I DIDN'T
KNOW PAPA GOD.

00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.234
I KNEW GOD.


00:31:28.334 --> 00:31:29.667
I COULD HAVE WRITTEN A
BOOK ABOUT THE FATHERHOOD

00:31:29.767 --> 00:31:32.566
OF GOD, THE GOD
THAT JESUS KNEW.

00:31:32.666 --> 00:31:35.934
I JUST HAD A VIEW OF GOD
THAT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE JESUS.

00:31:36.034 --> 00:31:39.434
AND THAT DAY IT WAS
PAPA THAT SPOKE.

00:31:39.534 --> 00:31:41.334
AND IT WAS THESE WAVES
AND WAVES OF LOVE.

00:31:41.434 --> 00:31:43.400
I LAID ON THAT FLOOR
AND IT TOOK ME BACK,

00:31:43.500 --> 00:31:45.900
AND I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE
BABY IN THE MOTHER'S WOMB.

00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.000
I FOUND OUT LATER
ON THE LANGUAGE,

00:31:47.100 --> 00:31:49.600
BUT THESE WAVES OF THIS
BABY EXPERIENCING THIS

00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:52.200
LOVE AND I WAS SO
OVERWHELMED, I JUST WEPT.

00:31:52.300 --> 00:31:54.000
AND THEN THE 12-YEAR-OLD BOY,
IT WAS LIKE A MOVIE.

00:31:54.100 --> 00:31:57.100
I'M LAYING ON THE FLOOR JUST
WEEPING AS A CHILD.

00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:58.566
EVEN ONE
OF THE LEADERS SAID,

00:31:58.666 --> 00:32:00.733
I'VE NEVER SEEN A MAN
SNOT AND CRY THAT MUCH.

00:32:00.833 --> 00:32:03.000
AND BEFORE THAT, EVEN WITH
MY PAIN, I DIDN'T CRY.

00:32:03.100 --> 00:32:04.300
I DIDN'T SHOW EMOTION.


00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.100
I'M A COLD NORWEGIAN
VIKING THAT IS MORE STOIC

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.633
IN PERSONALITY.


00:32:08.733 --> 00:32:10.966
BUT NOW THE WAVES
WAS COMING OVER ME.

00:32:11.066 --> 00:32:12.533
AND EVENTUALLY THERE WAS
AN AUDIBLE VOICE FROM

00:32:12.600 --> 00:32:16.367
HEAVEN THAT SAYS, LEIF, YOU ARE
MINE AND YOU'RE MY BELOVED.

00:32:16.467 --> 00:32:19.367
YOU'RE MY BELOVED SON.


00:32:19.467 --> 00:32:22.033
SOMETHING -- HIS SON,
AND I LOVE YOU, SON.

00:32:22.133 --> 00:32:23.367
I'M PROUD OF YOU SON.


00:32:23.467 --> 00:32:26.434
I'M SO WELL
PLEASED WITH YOU.

00:32:26.534 --> 00:32:28.200
BUT IT WAS THE
WORD PLEASURE.

00:32:28.300 --> 00:32:30.367
IT WAS THE FIRST
TIME IN MY LIFE,

00:32:30.467 --> 00:32:32.200
GOD IS PLEASED WITH ME.


00:32:32.300 --> 00:32:34.533
HOW COULD HE BE HERE
IN MY DYSFUNCTION?

00:32:34.633 --> 00:32:37.134
HERE IN MY WORST MOMENT,
HERE IN A MOMENT WHEN

00:32:37.234 --> 00:32:38.933
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.


00:32:39.033 --> 00:32:40.933
AND HE'S ALREADY WELL
PLEASED WITH ME AND THESE

00:32:41.033 --> 00:32:42.234
WAVES OF LOVE
WERE JUST COMING.

00:32:42.334 --> 00:32:43.500
AND I CAME UP
FROM THAT PLACE.

00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:44.533
I'M A SON.


00:32:44.633 --> 00:32:45.133
I'M A SON.


00:32:45.233 --> 00:32:46.000
MY PAPA LOVES ME.


00:32:46.100 --> 00:32:46.800
HE LIKES ME.


00:32:46.900 --> 00:32:48.134
HE DELIGHTS IN ME.


00:32:48.234 --> 00:32:50.167
AND THERE WERE ALL THESE
ASSIGNMENTS THAT I NEEDED TO DO.

00:32:50.267 --> 00:32:51.933
HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO
GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

00:32:52.033 --> 00:32:54.034
I DON'T HAVE TO DO
THIS ANY LONGER.

00:32:54.134 --> 00:32:55.434
PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE CRAZY.


00:32:55.534 --> 00:32:59.033
I GET TO DO IT, BUT
I DON'T HAVE TO.

00:32:59.133 --> 00:33:00.033
I WAS FREE.


00:33:00.133 --> 00:33:03.033
WHOM THE SON SETS
FREE IS FREE INDEED.

00:33:03.133 --> 00:33:04.133
WHERE THE SPIRIT
OF THE LORD IS,

00:33:04.233 --> 00:33:05.300
THERE IS LIBERTY.


00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:07.633
SO AT THAT MOMENT, SOMETHING
STARTED TO CHANGE.

00:33:07.733 --> 00:33:08.766
IT WAS A PROCESS.


00:33:08.866 --> 00:33:11.467
I BECAME A SON, AND I
LEARNED ALL I NEED TO DO

00:33:11.567 --> 00:33:13.333
IS WHAT I SEE MY
FATHER DO,

00:33:13.433 --> 00:33:14.867
I SAY WHAT I HEAR MY
FATHER SAY.

00:33:14.967 --> 00:33:17.167
AND THEN I STARTED TO WRITE
ABOUT THE BAPTISM OF LOVE,

00:33:17.267 --> 00:33:18.866
BECAUSE THAT WAS
MY EXPERIENCE.

00:33:18.966 --> 00:33:22.767
AND I REALIZED THAT JESUS,
BEFORE HE DID ANYTHING.

00:33:22.867 --> 00:33:24.000
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:33:24.100 --> 00:33:26.366
LEIF: IT WAS NOT JUST HE
WAS BAPTIZED IN WATER.

00:33:26.466 --> 00:33:28.400
IT WAS NOT JUST THAT HE
WAS BAPTIZED IN THE SPIRIT

00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:30.967
THAT THE DOVE CAME DOWN
WHEN THE HEAVEN OPENED UP.

00:33:31.067 --> 00:33:32.733
BUT IT WAS ONE MORE
THING THAT WAS THE SECRET

00:33:32.833 --> 00:33:34.766
OF THE WHOLE
LIFE OF JESUS.

00:33:34.866 --> 00:33:36.433
THE HEAVENLY FATHER
COMES IN AND SAYS,

00:33:36.533 --> 00:33:39.700
THIS IS MY BELOVED
SON, WHOM I LOVE AND

00:33:39.800 --> 00:33:42.200
WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED.


00:33:42.300 --> 00:33:43.767
BEFORE JESUS
HEALED ANY SICK,

00:33:43.867 --> 00:33:46.533
BEFORE HE DID ANY MIRACLE,
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE

00:33:46.633 --> 00:33:48.166
FROM PRESSURE WHEN
YOU CAN LIVE

00:33:48.266 --> 00:33:50.333
FROM YOUR FATHER'S
PLEASURE?

00:33:50.433 --> 00:33:52.267
AND THAT STARTED
A HEALING JOURNEY.

00:33:52.367 --> 00:33:53.734
AND THEN HE WAS LED
INTO THE WILDERNESS

00:33:53.834 --> 00:33:54.900
TO BE TESTED.


00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.700
AND THE TEST IS
IF YOU ARE A SON,

00:33:56.800 --> 00:33:57.967
IF YOU'RE A
DAUGHTER REBECCA,

00:33:58.067 --> 00:33:59.166
YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING.


00:33:59.266 --> 00:34:02.300
AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
LISTENING TO YOUR PODCAST?

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:04.467
SO NEXT TIME YOU
BETTER DO --

00:34:04.567 --> 00:34:05.767
AND THIS WHOLE THING OF


00:34:05.867 --> 00:34:08.233
THE SUBTLETY, BECAUSE IT
GOES BACK TO LUCIFER

00:34:08.333 --> 00:34:09.667
WHO WAS THE
FIRST ORPHAN.

00:34:09.767 --> 00:34:10.533
WHEN HE LEFT HEAVEN,


00:34:10.633 --> 00:34:11.867
HE NO LONGER HAD A HOME.


00:34:11.967 --> 00:34:13.967
AND ONE-THIRD OF
FALLEN ANGELS THAT WE CALL

00:34:14.067 --> 00:34:15.600
DEMONS TODAY, THEY
ALL OPERATE

00:34:15.700 --> 00:34:16.933
WITH AN ORPHAN SPIRIT.


00:34:17.033 --> 00:34:19.233
AND THE DEMONIC THING OF
THE RESTLESSNESS

00:34:19.333 --> 00:34:22.366
IS COMING INTO THE GARDEN
TO A SERPENT AND SAY, HEY,

00:34:22.466 --> 00:34:24.567
IF YOU EAT FROM THIS,
YOU'RE GOING TO BE LIKE GOD.

00:34:24.667 --> 00:34:25.700
DON'T YOU WANT
TO BE LIKE JESUS?

00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:26.700
DO SOMETHING.


00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:27.867
THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING.


00:34:27.967 --> 00:34:29.200
YOU BECOME SOMETHING.


00:34:29.300 --> 00:34:30.767
IF YOU EAT FROM THIS,
YOU'RE GOING TO BE LIKE HIM,

00:34:30.867 --> 00:34:32.467
IF YOU DO SOMETHING.


00:34:32.567 --> 00:34:34.667
BUT NOW, LATER ON, WHEN
JESUS IS BEING TESTED,

00:34:34.767 --> 00:34:36.267
HEY, IF YOU ARE
THE SON OF GOD,

00:34:36.367 --> 00:34:37.767
TURN THIS ROCK INTO BREAD.


00:34:37.867 --> 00:34:40.833
IF YOU ARE A SON, WHAT
IS THE THREE QUESTIONS?

00:34:40.933 --> 00:34:42.300
QUESTION HIS IDENTITY,


00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:43.400
QUESTION HIS INTIMACY,


00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:44.400
QUESTIONING.


00:34:44.500 --> 00:34:46.634
BUT JESUS DOESN'T HAVE
TO PROVE ANYTHING.

00:34:46.734 --> 00:34:49.167
HE ALREADY HAD THE
APPROVAL OF HIS FATHER.

00:34:49.267 --> 00:34:51.766
HE ALREADY HAD AN A-PLUS
BEFORE HE DID ANYTHING,

00:34:51.866 --> 00:34:53.000
AND HE WAS NOT
LIKE ADAM AND EVE.

00:34:53.100 --> 00:34:56.200
THE SECOND ADAM CAME IN,
HE RESTORES BACK AGAIN TO

00:34:56.300 --> 00:34:58.800
THE ORIGINAL INTENTION
WHAT PAPA GOD HAD FOR EACH

00:34:58.900 --> 00:35:02.200
ONE OF US SO THAT WE NO
LONGER WAS LIVING FROM

00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:04.433
MEASURE, BUT COULD
LIVE FROM FULLNESS.

00:35:04.533 --> 00:35:06.900
SO ON THE CROSS, JESUS
BECAME SIN WITH OUR

00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.033
SINFULNESS SO WE COULD
BECOME RIGHTEOUS

00:35:09.133 --> 00:35:10.433
WITH HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.


00:35:10.533 --> 00:35:12.500
HE TOOK OUR SHAME SO
WE WOULD BE GLORIFIED.

00:35:12.600 --> 00:35:13.666
HE TOOK OUR SICKNESS
AND DISEASE,

00:35:13.766 --> 00:35:15.000
AND BY HIS STRIPES
WE'RE HEALED.

00:35:15.100 --> 00:35:17.067
THERE'S ALL THESE SEVEN
DIVINE EXCHANGES

00:35:17.167 --> 00:35:17.833
ON THE CROSS.


00:35:17.933 --> 00:35:19.067
BUT ON THE TOP OF IT,


00:35:19.167 --> 00:35:22.167
FOR A MOMENT HE ALWAYS CALLED
HIM PAPA, PAPA, FATHER.

00:35:22.267 --> 00:35:23.233
UNTIL THIS MOMENT
HE SAYS

00:35:23.333 --> 00:35:25.500
ELOI, ELOI, LEMA
SABACHTHANI.

00:35:25.600 --> 00:35:27.967
HE SAID, MY GOD,
MY GOD, MY GOD,

00:35:28.067 --> 00:35:29.800
WHY HAVE YOU
FORSAKEN ME?

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:30.666
WHY?


00:35:30.766 --> 00:35:32.667
FOR A MOMENT HE BECAME
AN ORPHAN,

00:35:32.767 --> 00:35:36.066
SO THAT WE COULD BECOME
SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

00:35:36.166 --> 00:35:36.967
REBECCA: THE DIVINE EXCHANGE.


00:35:37.067 --> 00:35:38.100
LEIF: THE DIVINE
EXCHANGE.

00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:40.067
FOR A MOMENT HE WAS SEPARATED
FROM PERFECT LOVE,

00:35:40.167 --> 00:35:42.200
SO WE COULD BE
RESTORED BACK AGAIN.

00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:44.867
THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE
CROSS WAS A LOVING FATHER,

00:35:44.967 --> 00:35:48.234
NOT MAD AT HIS SONS AND
DAUGHTERS FOR MESSING UP,

00:35:48.334 --> 00:35:51.267
BUT HE WAS MAD AT
WHAT SIN HAD DONE,

00:35:51.367 --> 00:35:52.867
THAT IT MADE US
FALL SHORT OF GLORY.

00:35:52.967 --> 00:35:55.100
AND HE SENT JESUS TO
RESTORE US BACK TO THAT

00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:58.733
GLORY AND TO HEAL AND TO
SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST,

00:35:58.833 --> 00:36:00.100
LUKE 19:10.


00:36:00.200 --> 00:36:02.267
IT DIDN'T SAY JESUS JUST
CAME TO SAVE THOSE THAT

00:36:02.367 --> 00:36:05.067
WAS LOST, BUT THAT
WHICH WAS LOST.

00:36:05.167 --> 00:36:05.800
SO WHAT IS LOST


00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:07.300
IN LEIF HETLAND'S LIFE?


00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.367
THAT THE ENEMY CAME,


00:36:09.467 --> 00:36:13.467
THE INNOCENCE, THE
CHILDLIKENESS, SHAME CAME IN,

00:36:13.567 --> 00:36:14.500
FEAR CAME IN.


00:36:14.600 --> 00:36:16.634
WHAT IS THE ENEMY
USING AS A WEAPON?

00:36:16.734 --> 00:36:20.034
TRYING TO BLACKMAIL ME AND
THEN YOU TRY TO FIND

00:36:20.134 --> 00:36:22.467
DIFFERENT WAYS OF
MEDICATING AND THAT WAS

00:36:22.567 --> 00:36:23.734
KIND OF A PART
OF MY JOURNEY.

00:36:23.834 --> 00:36:25.500
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M
DOING TODAY IS NOW.

00:36:25.600 --> 00:36:28.066
I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW
HOW GOOD PAPA GOD IS.

00:36:28.166 --> 00:36:29.400
I WANT EVERYONE TO
EXPERIENCE A GOD

00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:30.433
THAT LOOKS LIKE JESUS.


00:36:30.533 --> 00:36:32.300
EVERY MUSLIM, EVERY
HINDU, EVERY BUDDHIST,

00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.433
EVERY REPUBLICAN,
EVERY DEMOCRAT.

00:36:35.533 --> 00:36:38.500
REBECCA: AND I FEEL
LIKE IF YOU HAVE THAT,

00:36:38.600 --> 00:36:40.266
THE ANOINTING THAT
YOU'RE WALKING WITH THAT,

00:36:40.366 --> 00:36:42.433
HAVING THIS
REVELATION AND BEING

00:36:42.533 --> 00:36:45.034
MOTIVATED BY LOVE, WHICH
IS WHAT IT TALKS ABOUT IN

00:36:45.134 --> 00:36:47.000
2 CORINTHIANS 5,
IT SAYS IT WAS THE LOVE OF

00:36:47.100 --> 00:36:50.000
CHRIST THAT COMPELLED
THEM TO PEOPLE TO --

00:36:50.100 --> 00:36:51.733
SAYING BE RECONCILED WITH GOD.


00:36:51.833 --> 00:36:54.233
THAT WAS HOW THEY WERE
SPEAKING THE GOSPEL MESSAGE.

00:36:54.333 --> 00:36:56.033
THEY WERE COMPELLED
BY THE LOVE OF GOD

00:36:56.133 --> 00:36:58.100
FOR LOST HUMANITY.


00:36:58.200 --> 00:37:00.267
BUT WHAT'S SO
INTERESTING IS THAT

00:37:00.367 --> 00:37:02.433
WHAT YOU'RE OPERATING IN,


00:37:02.533 --> 00:37:05.200
JUST BREAKS
THROUGH ALL THINGS,

00:37:05.300 --> 00:37:07.333
ALL BARRIERS, ALL
RESTRICTIONS.

00:37:07.433 --> 00:37:10.600
AND SO GOD HAS BEEN ABLE
TO USE YOU TO SHARE THAT

00:37:10.700 --> 00:37:12.067
LOVE, AND YOU'VE BROKEN
THROUGH THESE VERY

00:37:12.167 --> 00:37:14.700
DIFFICULT AND DARK PLACES
WITH THE LOVE OF GOD.

00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.067
AND YOU'VE HAD BREAKTHROUGH,
BECAUSE WHEN

00:37:17.167 --> 00:37:19.200
YOU'RE OPERATING
IN THAT LOVE,

00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:21.033
IT'S LIKE NOTHING CAN
STOP THE LOVE OF GOD

00:37:21.133 --> 00:37:22.366
AND LOVE NEVER FAILS.


00:37:22.466 --> 00:37:25.534
SO LOVE IS AS POWERFUL
AS THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS.

00:37:25.634 --> 00:37:28.334
BUT I JUST THINK NOT THAT
MANY PEOPLE ARE REALLY

00:37:28.434 --> 00:37:29.400
WALKING IN IT.


00:37:29.500 --> 00:37:31.400
WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE,
INCLUDING PEOPLE IN

00:37:31.500 --> 00:37:34.000
MINISTRY, NOT OPERATING?


00:37:34.100 --> 00:37:35.600
THEY DON'T HAVE THIS
UNDERSTANDING OF THE

00:37:35.700 --> 00:37:38.966
FATHER, GOD'S LOVE AND I
SEE THAT RESTLESSNESS,

00:37:39.066 --> 00:37:40.233
THAT PERFORMANCE.


00:37:40.333 --> 00:37:42.467
AND THIS IS THE
THING, LEIF, I --

00:37:42.567 --> 00:37:44.700
PEOPLE PREACH THIS A LOT,


00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:46.867
BUT THE THING IS, IS
THAT AND I EVEN

00:37:46.967 --> 00:37:48.067
EXPERIENCED THIS MYSELF.


00:37:48.167 --> 00:37:50.133
IT'S LIKE I HEARD THIS AND
I KNEW IT KIND OF LIKE YOU

00:37:50.233 --> 00:37:51.933
SAID, I KNEW
GOD THE FATHER.

00:37:52.033 --> 00:37:54.233
BUT KNOWING IT IN YOUR
MIND IS NOT THE SAME AS

00:37:54.333 --> 00:37:56.800
KNOWING IT IN YOUR SOUL.


00:37:56.900 --> 00:37:59.967
SO WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE
NOT LIVING OUT OF THE

00:38:00.067 --> 00:38:02.267
REVELATION OF SONSHIP?


00:38:02.367 --> 00:38:04.200
LEIF: I THINK THERE IS NO
DOUBT ABOUT THAT

00:38:04.300 --> 00:38:07.667
WHEN THERE IS AN ORPHAN
HEART AND YOU CANNOT CAST

00:38:07.767 --> 00:38:10.867
OUT AN ORPHAN HEART, I CAN
CAST OUT AN ORPHAN SPIRIT.

00:38:10.967 --> 00:38:14.300
BUT AN ORPHAN SPIRIT CAN ONLY
OPERATE WHERE THE HEART IS.

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.000
SO WHEN THERE'S
AN ORPHAN HEART AS A

00:38:16.100 --> 00:38:18.800
TENDENCY, NOT THE SPIRIT
OF SONSHIP OR DAUGHTERSHIP,

00:38:18.900 --> 00:38:20.333
THAT SAYS ABBA FATHER.


00:38:20.433 --> 00:38:23.333
SO WHEN THERE IS UNHEALED
HEART OF SOME OF THOSE AREAS.

00:38:23.433 --> 00:38:25.300
AND AS I SAID, I CAN'T
GO BACK IN OUR PAST.

00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.100
BUT IT CAN ALSO HAPPEN
AFTERWARDS WHERE I MEET

00:38:27.200 --> 00:38:28.667
PEOPLE LIKE IN MINISTRY,


00:38:28.767 --> 00:38:30.033
BECAUSE WE'RE COMING INTO


00:38:30.133 --> 00:38:33.566
A SYSTEM WHERE, OKAY, I
GET A PLATFORM BASED UPON

00:38:33.666 --> 00:38:35.233
EITHER THE BOOKS YOU'VE
WRITTEN OR THE SIGNS,

00:38:35.333 --> 00:38:36.100
WONDERS, AND MIRACLES.


00:38:36.200 --> 00:38:38.066
SO THE WHOLE WORLD
IS BASED UPON

00:38:38.166 --> 00:38:39.367
THAT'S WHAT SELLS.


00:38:39.467 --> 00:38:40.467
SO WE WANT A STORY.


00:38:40.567 --> 00:38:42.900
SO EVEN SOME OF THE
STORIES ABOUT MY LIFE,

00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:44.733
OFTEN PEOPLE COME AND THE
REASON THEY WANT ME TO

00:38:44.833 --> 00:38:47.300
SPEAK IN A SETTING IS
BECAUSE WE SAW 80,000 PEOPLE

00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:49.900
IN A STADIUM,
OR 30,000 PEOPLE HEAL.

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.234
SO SOMETIMES I SHOW SOME
OF THE VIDEO JUST FOR THEM,

00:38:52.334 --> 00:38:53.934
BECAUSE I KNOW IN
THE VALUE SYSTEM

00:38:54.034 --> 00:38:56.233
THAT'S AND THERE'S NOTHING
WRONG WITH THAT IN ITSELF.

00:38:56.333 --> 00:38:58.500
BUT AUTOMATICALLY, I GET TO
GO BACK TO FOCUS HERE,

00:38:58.600 --> 00:38:59.734
BUT THAT'S NOT WHO I AM.


00:38:59.834 --> 00:39:00.834
LET ME TALK ABOUT --


00:39:00.934 --> 00:39:02.067
LET'S TALK ABOUT
IDENTITY.

00:39:02.167 --> 00:39:03.133
LET'S TALK ABOUT INTIMACY.


00:39:03.233 --> 00:39:05.833
THIS ALWAYS BECOMES MY
CONVERSATION BECAUSE I

00:39:05.933 --> 00:39:06.800
WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY.


00:39:06.900 --> 00:39:09.100
BUT THIS GETS THE
ATTENTION IN THIS WORLD.

00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:11.433
BECAUSE WE HAVE A VALUE
SYSTEM, BECAUSE LUCIFER --

00:39:11.533 --> 00:39:12.333
REBECCA: THAT IS HOW
OUR WORLD --

00:39:12.433 --> 00:39:13.234
LEIF: THIS IS OUR WORLD.


00:39:13.334 --> 00:39:14.534
THIS IS THE WORLD SYSTEM.


00:39:14.634 --> 00:39:15.533
REBECCA: SO LUCIFER?


00:39:15.633 --> 00:39:16.700
LEIF: YEAH, SO YOU
HAVE BABEL.

00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.500
IF YOU REMEMBER
IN GENESIS 11,

00:39:18.600 --> 00:39:20.200
LET US BUILD A
NAME FOR OURSELF.

00:39:20.300 --> 00:39:21.900
LET'S BUILD
SOMETHING GREAT,

00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.366
BUILD WORLDWIDE MINISTRY,
BIGGER CHURCH AND WHEN

00:39:24.466 --> 00:39:25.600
WE'RE COMING
TOGETHER, WELL,

00:39:25.700 --> 00:39:27.733
HOW MANY DO YOU
HAVE OR WHAT?

00:39:27.833 --> 00:39:29.300
HOW MANY SEERS
OR HOW MANY?

00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.967
SO THE WHOLE BABEL SYSTEM,
WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW WE

00:39:32.067 --> 00:39:34.167
GOING TO BUILD THIS
GREAT THING FOR GOD.

00:39:34.267 --> 00:39:35.267
THAT WAS THE WHOLE
BABEL SYSTEM

00:39:35.367 --> 00:39:37.800
THAT GOD EVENTUALLY HAD
TO SHATTER.

00:39:37.900 --> 00:39:38.800
SO THAT'S ONE ELEMENT.


00:39:38.900 --> 00:39:41.133
THE OTHER ELEMENT I
THINK IS IMPORTANT.

00:39:41.233 --> 00:39:45.400
REMEMBER, IT TOOK ABOUT
1517 YEARS BEFORE GRACE

00:39:45.500 --> 00:39:48.033
WAS BEING RESTORED,
JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH.

00:39:48.133 --> 00:39:50.800
FOR BY GRACE
AND FAITH ALONE,

00:39:50.900 --> 00:39:52.100
WHICH WAS MARTIN LUTHER.


00:39:52.200 --> 00:39:54.633
IT WAS A REFORMATION
THAT TOOK PLACE.

00:39:54.733 --> 00:39:55.534
LATER ON,


00:39:55.634 --> 00:39:57.334
AND JESUS HAS
ALWAYS BEEN AROUND,

00:39:57.434 --> 00:39:59.300
BUT JESUS WAS BEING
RESTORED BEFORE YOU HAD TO

00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:00.666
GO TO A PRIEST.


00:40:00.766 --> 00:40:03.667
SO IT TOOK 1517 YEARS
FOR THAT REFORMATION.

00:40:03.767 --> 00:40:05.367
TODAY, IT'S NORMAL
THAT PEOPLE ARE

00:40:05.467 --> 00:40:06.700
GETTING SAVED BY GRACE,


00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.800
BUT THAT WAS NOT FOR
OVER 1500 YEARS.

00:40:08.900 --> 00:40:10.000
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:40:10.100 --> 00:40:11.933
LEIF: THE SAME ALSO WITH THE
HOLY SPIRIT THAT YOU HAVE

00:40:12.033 --> 00:40:13.467
PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE
FIRST REFORMATION,

00:40:13.567 --> 00:40:15.000
BUT NOT THE SECOND.


00:40:15.100 --> 00:40:17.300
1906, THE BIRTHING OF
THE SPIRIT

00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:18.433
IN AZUSA STREET.


00:40:18.533 --> 00:40:20.366
AND, WOW, IT IS
VERY POWERFUL.

00:40:20.466 --> 00:40:23.533
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY
DID, IT TOOK A LONG TIME.

00:40:23.633 --> 00:40:26.100
THE SPIRIT HAS ALWAYS BEEN
AROUND FROM THE BEGINNING

00:40:26.200 --> 00:40:27.734
WITH THE FATHER,
SON, SPIRIT,

00:40:27.834 --> 00:40:29.800
LET US MAKE MAN
IN OUR IMAGE.

00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:30.833
SO THERE WAS A FAMILY.


00:40:30.933 --> 00:40:33.133
IT WAS A FAMILY IN HEAVEN
THAT STARTED IT ALL.

00:40:33.233 --> 00:40:35.133
AND LUCIFER IS THE VERY
ONE THAT WANTS US TO

00:40:35.233 --> 00:40:36.934
OPERATE LIKE AN
ORPHANAGE, A BUSINESS

00:40:37.034 --> 00:40:39.066
AS AN ORPHANAGE, A
MINISTRY, OR A CHURCH WHERE

00:40:39.166 --> 00:40:40.667
ORPHANS ARE COMING
TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT

00:40:40.767 --> 00:40:41.900
THEY CAN GET.


00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:42.633
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:40:42.733 --> 00:40:43.466
LEIF: AND GIVE ME, TOUCH ME.


00:40:43.566 --> 00:40:45.167
BLESS ME, FILL
ME, ME, ME, ME.

00:40:45.267 --> 00:40:46.566
AND IF NOT, WE GET
DIVORCED AND WE START

00:40:46.666 --> 00:40:49.833
ANOTHER ORPHANAGE THAT
ARE AGREEING WITH ME.

00:40:49.933 --> 00:40:51.567
BECAUSE SELF IS IN THE
CENTER OF THAT ORPHAN

00:40:51.667 --> 00:40:53.133
SPIRIT AND THE
ORPHAN HEART.

00:40:53.233 --> 00:40:55.566
SO BUT HERE'S WHERE I'M
ABOUT TO HEAD IS THAT,

00:40:55.666 --> 00:40:56.600
BUT WE ARE RIGHT
IN THE VERGE

00:40:56.700 --> 00:40:58.433
OF ANOTHER REFORMATION.


00:40:58.533 --> 00:40:59.566
SO THE FIRST ONE,
RESTORE JESUS,

00:40:59.666 --> 00:41:01.167
THE SECOND ONE, THE
HOLY SPIRIT.

00:41:01.267 --> 00:41:02.934
THIS ONE IS
RESTORING THE FATHER.

00:41:03.034 --> 00:41:04.000
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING
TO STOP THE CURSE

00:41:04.100 --> 00:41:05.933
THAT IS IN THE LAND.


00:41:06.033 --> 00:41:08.133
SO THE LAST WORD IN THE
OLD TESTAMENT IS CURSE.

00:41:08.233 --> 00:41:09.800
AND IT'S WHEN HE'S GOING
TO TURN THE FATHER'S

00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:11.000
HEARTS TOWARD
THE CHILDREN,

00:41:11.100 --> 00:41:12.467
CHILDREN'S HEARTS
TOWARDS THE FATHER,

00:41:12.567 --> 00:41:14.367
LEST I SMITE THE
EARTH WITH A CURSE.

00:41:14.467 --> 00:41:15.467
THEN YOU'RE MOVING IN


00:41:15.567 --> 00:41:18.067
AFTER 400 YEARS OF SILENCE
AND JESUS COMING IN.

00:41:18.167 --> 00:41:21.933
THIS IS THE GENEALOGY OF
JESUS, THE SON OF ABRAHAM,

00:41:22.033 --> 00:41:23.067
THE SON OF DAVID.


00:41:23.167 --> 00:41:25.700
HERE YOU SEE BOTH THE LAMB
AND THE LION OF JESUS.

00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:28.167
AND THEN YOU TRACE JESUS
UNTIL EVENTUALLY THE

00:41:28.267 --> 00:41:30.134
FATHER GIVES HIM
THAT AFFIRMATION.

00:41:30.234 --> 00:41:31.400
IT GETS TESTED.


00:41:31.500 --> 00:41:32.834
HE COMES OUT OF THAT.


00:41:32.934 --> 00:41:34.400
WHO DO YOU SAY THAT I AM?


00:41:34.500 --> 00:41:35.833
AND IT STARTS WITH
THIS WHOLE THING,

00:41:35.933 --> 00:41:39.767
BECAUSE WHO JESUS IS TO US
IS WHO HE WILL BE THROUGH US

00:41:39.867 --> 00:41:40.700
AND SO THIS WHOLE JOURNEY.


00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:42.167
SO THE SEASON
ALSO WE'RE LIVING IN,

00:41:42.267 --> 00:41:43.233
YOU ARE GOING
TO SEE MORE AND MORE.

00:41:43.333 --> 00:41:44.600
I WAS NOT AWARE OF IT.


00:41:44.700 --> 00:41:46.333
MOST PEOPLE THAT
I MINISTER TO,

00:41:46.433 --> 00:41:47.534
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT
A LOT OF THEM

00:41:47.634 --> 00:41:48.567
THAT HAVE BEEN


00:41:48.667 --> 00:41:50.166
BAPTIZED IN WATER, AND
A LOT OF US AT LEAST

00:41:50.266 --> 00:41:52.500
CHARISMATIC, PENTECOSTAL,
WORD OF FAITH,

00:41:52.600 --> 00:41:53.767
BEEN BAPTIZED
IN THE SPIRIT.

00:41:53.867 --> 00:41:56.700
THEY NEVER HEARD OF
THE BAPTISM OF LOVE.

00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.067
THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
YOU COULD BE FREE

00:41:58.167 --> 00:41:58.800
FROM BEING AN ORPHAN.


00:41:58.900 --> 00:41:59.933
WELL, THAT'S ALL WE KNEW.


00:42:00.033 --> 00:42:02.434
LIKE A FRIEND OF MINE WHO
BUILT A MEGACHURCH AND HE

00:42:02.534 --> 00:42:07.167
SAID, I NEVER
KNEW ABOUT THIS.

00:42:07.267 --> 00:42:09.966
BUILT A MEGACHURCH,
FULL OF THE SPIRIT,

00:42:10.066 --> 00:42:11.434
BUT 3000 ORPHANS.


00:42:11.534 --> 00:42:12.500
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:42:12.600 --> 00:42:14.834
LEIF: COMING TOGETHER,
SELF IS IN THE CENTER,

00:42:14.934 --> 00:42:16.133
WORSHIP AND SELF IS
IN THE CENTER,

00:42:16.233 --> 00:42:17.167
THAT'S WHAT WE DO.


00:42:17.267 --> 00:42:18.900
IT IS BUILDING A BABEL.


00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:20.100
AND SO THIS
PAINFUL THING,

00:42:20.200 --> 00:42:23.167
SO GOD IS NOW AND THE
REASON WE SEE IT IS JESUS'

00:42:23.267 --> 00:42:25.433
ONLY UNANSWERED PRAYER.


00:42:25.533 --> 00:42:27.167
AND YOU AND I CAN
BECOME AN ANSWER TO

00:42:27.267 --> 00:42:28.567
HIS ONLY UNANSWERED PRAYER.


00:42:28.667 --> 00:42:31.066
AND THAT'S IN JOHN 17,
THAT THE VERY LOVE,

00:42:31.166 --> 00:42:32.900
FATHER, THAT YOU
HAVE, THE VERY GLORY,

00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:33.966
THE VERY ONENESS.


00:42:34.066 --> 00:42:36.334
THREE TIMES IT SAYS THAT
THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE.

00:42:36.434 --> 00:42:38.000
HOW IS THE WORLD GOING
TO BELIEVE?

00:42:38.100 --> 00:42:38.733
THIS LOVE THAT THE


00:42:38.833 --> 00:42:40.000
FATHER HAS
TOWARDS THE SON,

00:42:40.100 --> 00:42:42.333
THAT LOVE WILL BE IN US,
EXPERIENCING THAT LOVE,

00:42:42.433 --> 00:42:44.600
THE GLORY, THAT ONENESS
WITH THE FATHER.

00:42:44.700 --> 00:42:46.033
AND THEN EVENTUALLY,
YOU START TO

00:42:46.133 --> 00:42:48.066
SEE IN REVELATION,
GUESS WHAT HAPPENED?

00:42:48.166 --> 00:42:49.000
THERE IS A FAMILY


00:42:49.100 --> 00:42:50.634
REPRESENTED FROM
EVERY NATION, TONGUE,

00:42:50.734 --> 00:42:51.600
TRIBE AND LANGUAGE.


00:42:51.700 --> 00:42:53.300
EVERYTHING THAT
GOD STARTED,

00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.434
HE ENDS IN THE BOOK
OF ENDING BECAUSE

00:42:55.534 --> 00:42:56.800
HE SAW A FAMILY.


00:42:56.900 --> 00:42:58.133
SO EVEN NOW WE HEAR
PROPHECY ABOUT THE ONE

00:42:58.233 --> 00:42:59.566
BILLION SOUL HARVEST.


00:42:59.666 --> 00:43:01.466
BUT GOD DOESN'T WANT
A BILLION ORPHANS.

00:43:01.566 --> 00:43:03.434
HE WANTS A BILLION
SONS AND DAUGHTERS.

00:43:03.534 --> 00:43:04.534
SO WHAT IS HE DOING?


00:43:04.634 --> 00:43:06.267
HE'S RESTORING THE FAMILY
ON EARTH THAT LOOKS LIKE

00:43:06.367 --> 00:43:07.467
THE FAMILY IN HEAVEN.


00:43:07.567 --> 00:43:09.800
WHY IS THE ENEMY
ATTACKING FAMILY?

00:43:09.900 --> 00:43:10.900
BECAUSE OF THIS
VERY THING.

00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.100
WHY IS THE ENEMY TRYING
TO STEAL THE IDENTITY?

00:43:13.200 --> 00:43:14.800
IF YOU'RE GOING INTO ALL
THE ISSUES THAT YOUNG

00:43:14.900 --> 00:43:15.966
PEOPLE ARE
STRUGGLING WITH,

00:43:16.066 --> 00:43:18.133
IDENTITY, FOR
THIS VERY REASON.

00:43:18.233 --> 00:43:20.034
BECAUSE HE'S SO NERVOUS,
BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING IN A

00:43:20.134 --> 00:43:22.333
TIME THAT WE ARE THE
ONLY GENERATION,

00:43:22.433 --> 00:43:25.000
THE AGAPE REFORMATION,
THE FIRST WAS GRACE,

00:43:25.100 --> 00:43:26.000
SECOND POWER.


00:43:26.100 --> 00:43:26.967
THIS ONE IS LOVE.


00:43:27.067 --> 00:43:29.300
AGAPE REFORMATION IS
ABOUT TO BE BIRTHED,

00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.300
AND THE WORLD IS GOING
TO SEE WHO HE IS.

00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:33.367
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT,
IT'S GOING TO BREAK

00:43:33.467 --> 00:43:34.867
THE CURSE THAT IS IN
THE LAND.

00:43:34.967 --> 00:43:37.267
AND IT'S GOING TO USHER
IN THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS.

00:43:37.367 --> 00:43:38.900
THAT'S THE WHOLE CONFLICT
FOR WHAT'S GOING

00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:40.200
ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST.


00:43:40.300 --> 00:43:41.567
SO THAT'S THE ISSUE
THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING

00:43:41.667 --> 00:43:43.700
WHAT'S GOING ON IN ISRAEL,
WITH AN ORPHAN SPIRIT,

00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.733
AND THIS WHOLE THING
THAT'S TAKING PLACE.

00:43:45.833 --> 00:43:47.133
BUT HERE WE HAVE
CHURCHES STAND THE

00:43:47.233 --> 00:43:48.300
WAY WE ARE RESPONDING.


00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:49.867
WE ARE COMING
WITH AN ORPHAN SPIRIT

00:43:49.967 --> 00:43:52.167
TRYING TO DEAL
WITH ISHMAEL.

00:43:52.267 --> 00:43:53.333
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:43:53.433 --> 00:43:56.367
LEIF: AND THE CRY OF ISHMAEL
WITH AN ORPHAN SPIRIT.

00:43:56.467 --> 00:43:58.933
WHEN WE DO NOT KNOW THAT
CREATION IS MOURNING OR

00:43:59.033 --> 00:44:01.034
GROANING FOR THE
MANIFESTATION OF THE SONS

00:44:01.134 --> 00:44:02.767
AND DAUGHTERS
TO BE REVEALED.

00:44:02.867 --> 00:44:05.367
SO THERE'S A WAR
GOING ON RIGHT NOW,

00:44:05.467 --> 00:44:07.700
AND I CALL IT A WAR
WORLD THREE IN A SENSE,

00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:08.733
BECAUSE IT IS.


00:44:08.833 --> 00:44:11.633
AND IT'S ALSO A WAR
AGAINST US GETTING OUR

00:44:11.733 --> 00:44:14.700
IDENTITY AND GETTING PAPA
GOD TO BE OUR FATHER.

00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:18.433
THAT WAS THE KEY FOR JESUS'
LIFE IS TO BE FATHER

00:44:18.533 --> 00:44:21.000
AND TO BE FATHER,
BECAUSE JESUS,

00:44:21.100 --> 00:44:23.000
HE LIVED AS A SON
IN THE NATURAL

00:44:23.100 --> 00:44:24.834
LATER ON IN
THE SPIRITUAL.

00:44:24.934 --> 00:44:25.967
AND THAT'S ALSO WHAT HE --


00:44:26.067 --> 00:44:27.867
I'M GOING TO THE FATHER
SENDING YOU THE SPIRIT OF

00:44:27.967 --> 00:44:30.667
ADOPTION SO THAT YOU
CAN SAY, ABBA, FATHER,

00:44:30.767 --> 00:44:32.067
AND COMING INTO
THIS RELATIONSHIP.

00:44:32.167 --> 00:44:33.700
SO THE ENEMY IS
JUST SO NERVOUS.

00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:35.267
THAT'S ALL THE ATTACK
YOU'RE SEEING GOING

00:44:35.367 --> 00:44:36.200
ON IN SOCIETY.


00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:37.333
AND THEN WE'RE COMING,


00:44:37.433 --> 00:44:38.633
OH, WE NEED TO PRAY AGAINST
THIS SPIRIT OF EVIL,

00:44:38.733 --> 00:44:41.167
THIS SPIRIT, OR DECLARE,
NOT RECOGNIZING

00:44:41.267 --> 00:44:43.967
THE ROOT ISSUE HERE IS WE
CAN COME AS ORPHANS AND

00:44:44.067 --> 00:44:46.266
DECLARE AND BEG AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.

00:44:46.366 --> 00:44:49.000
BUT THE BIBLE SAYS, IT
IS MY PAPA, YOUR PAPA.

00:44:49.100 --> 00:44:51.166
IT IS OUR FATHER.


00:44:51.266 --> 00:44:52.434
WE HONOR HIS NAME.


00:44:52.534 --> 00:44:54.234
THEN WE CAN SEE HIS
KINGDOM COME AND HIS WILL

00:44:54.334 --> 00:44:57.000
BE DONE ON EARTH
AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

00:44:57.100 --> 00:44:59.000
AND TO PRAY THAT PRAYER
WHEN YOU'RE AN ORPHAN ON

00:44:59.100 --> 00:45:03.100
THE INSIDE, IT DOESN'T
HAVE A KINGDOM IMPACT

00:45:03.200 --> 00:45:04.800
AND WE DON'T SEE
HEAVEN ON EARTH,

00:45:04.900 --> 00:45:06.867
THEN WE ARE FOCUSING JUST
TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF HERE

00:45:06.967 --> 00:45:09.067
INSTEAD OF BRINGING
JESUS INTO HERE.

00:45:09.167 --> 00:45:11.500
AND THEN WE WOULD MEASURE
HOW DARK IS IN THE WORLD,

00:45:11.600 --> 00:45:14.667
INSTEAD OF TURNING ON THE
LIGHT AND REALIZING THAT

00:45:14.767 --> 00:45:16.867
THE LOVE IN YOU IS GREATER
THAN THE FEAR OR THE

00:45:16.967 --> 00:45:18.434
DARKNESS THAT
IS IN THE WORLD.

00:45:18.534 --> 00:45:20.333
SO THIS IS PART
OF THE WARFARE.

00:45:20.433 --> 00:45:23.233
THE ENEMY IS SO NERVOUS
BECAUSE HE SEES VERY

00:45:23.333 --> 00:45:25.567
CLEARLY THAT WHAT GOD
STARTED IN THE BEGINNING

00:45:25.667 --> 00:45:27.634
AS A FAMILY, HE WILL END.


00:45:27.734 --> 00:45:29.667
AND THE ULTIMATE
ORPHAN MAKER,

00:45:29.767 --> 00:45:32.567
THE BIGGEST STRATEGY,
INCLUDING A LOT OF LEADERS

00:45:32.667 --> 00:45:34.766
THAT IS FALLING AND THESE
THINGS, THE BUILDING

00:45:34.866 --> 00:45:38.734
THESE BABEL EMPIRES ON THE
TOP WITH AN ORPHAN SPIRIT

00:45:38.834 --> 00:45:39.600
IS JUST LOOKING.


00:45:39.700 --> 00:45:40.200
CAN YOU SEE ME?


00:45:40.300 --> 00:45:41.300
LOOK, FACEBOOK.


00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:43.667
CAN YOU NOTICE ME,
ME, ME, ME.

00:45:43.767 --> 00:45:44.434
AND I DON'T LIKE HIM.


00:45:44.534 --> 00:45:45.300
I'M AGAINST HIM


00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:46.400
AND THE WHOLE DIVISION.


00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:48.300
ORPHANS ARE CONSTANTLY
DISPLAYING AND

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.167
YOU SEE IT EVERYWHERE.


00:45:50.267 --> 00:45:51.133
REBECCA: YOU SEE
IT EVERYWHERE.

00:45:51.233 --> 00:45:51.900
LEIF: IT'S EVERYWHERE.


00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:52.967
REBECCA: IT'S, IT'S
CRAZY.

00:45:53.067 --> 00:45:54.033
LIKE WE'RE --


00:45:54.133 --> 00:45:55.734
THAT'S CAUSING
SO MANY PROBLEMS.

00:45:55.834 --> 00:45:57.400
I MEAN, IT'S A
PROBLEM IN THE WORLD,

00:45:57.500 --> 00:45:59.100
BUT IT'S SUCH
A HUGE PROBLEM,

00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:01.700
ESPECIALLY IN THE CHURCH
IN AMERICA IS WHAT I'M

00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.067
THINKING ABOUT IS WE'RE
MAKING IT ALL ABOUT

00:46:04.167 --> 00:46:05.833
OURSELVES, AND WE'RE
FIGHTING EACH OTHER

00:46:05.933 --> 00:46:07.533
BECAUSE OF OUR EGOS AND
ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

00:46:07.633 --> 00:46:10.867
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
WHOSE WE ARE AND SO IT

00:46:10.967 --> 00:46:14.300
CAUSES ALL THIS
UNNECESSARY FIGHTING.

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.100
AND SO I THINK
YOU'RE IN I,

00:46:16.200 --> 00:46:18.966
I THINK YOUR INPUT
IS SO HELPFUL.

00:46:19.066 --> 00:46:21.133
AND WHAT I'M SITTING HERE
THINKING IS FOR PEOPLE WHO

00:46:21.233 --> 00:46:24.166
ARE LISTENING, WHO ARE
SAYING, I WANT YOU TO,

00:46:24.266 --> 00:46:26.433
I WANT YOU TO IDENTIFY
WHAT AN ORPHAN SPIRIT OR

00:46:26.533 --> 00:46:28.400
WHAT AN ORPHAN
HEART LOOKS LIKE.

00:46:28.500 --> 00:46:30.434
AND THEN I WANT US TO PRAY
FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE I KNOW

00:46:30.534 --> 00:46:32.000
THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE
LISTENING TO THIS WHO ARE

00:46:32.100 --> 00:46:33.466
HAVING THAT
URGENCY WITHIN THEM.

00:46:33.566 --> 00:46:35.133
THEY'RE LIKE, I WANT TO
HAVE AN EXPERIENCE LIKE

00:46:35.233 --> 00:46:37.367
YOU HAD, LEIF,
WHERE THEY GOT TO,

00:46:37.467 --> 00:46:39.033
YOU GOT TO EXPERIENCE THE
LOVE OF THE FATHER THAT

00:46:39.133 --> 00:46:40.800
SET YOU FREE FROM
AN ORPHAN SPIRIT.

00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:43.733
SO FIRST, IDENTIFY JUST
SOME BULLET POINTS OF WHAT

00:46:43.833 --> 00:46:45.733
AN ORPHAN SPIRIT OR AN
ORPHAN HEART LOOKS LIKE.

00:46:45.833 --> 00:46:48.633
AND THEN LET'S PRAY FOR
PEOPLE TO JUST HAVE

00:46:48.733 --> 00:46:50.567
AN ENCOUNTER WITH THE
FATHER RIGHT HERE AND NOW.

00:46:50.667 --> 00:46:51.634
LEIF: COME ON.


00:46:51.734 --> 00:46:53.367
NOW, FIRST OF ALL, I
THINK THAT YOU WILL FIND,

00:46:53.467 --> 00:46:56.333
THE PRIMARY THING
WITH AN ORPHAN HEART.

00:46:56.433 --> 00:46:58.633
AND THEN OFTEN, THEN AN
ORPHAN SPIRIT THAT IS

00:46:58.733 --> 00:47:01.633
ATTACHED TO THAT IS THAT
YOU DON'T HAVE A HOME.

00:47:01.733 --> 00:47:02.800
WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?


00:47:02.900 --> 00:47:03.700
I'M NOT TALKING
ABOUT YOU'RE HOMELESS,

00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:05.400
THAT YOU DON'T
HAVE A BIG HOUSE,

00:47:05.500 --> 00:47:08.434
BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE A
PLACE OF WHERE YOU CAN

00:47:08.534 --> 00:47:10.367
COME UP AND CLIMB
UP ON PAPA GOD'S LAP.

00:47:10.467 --> 00:47:12.200
YOU DON'T HAVE A PLACE
OF INTIMACY

00:47:12.300 --> 00:47:13.500
YOU CAN HAVE WITH HIM.


00:47:13.600 --> 00:47:15.034
YOU MAY BE
RUNNING TO JESUS,

00:47:15.134 --> 00:47:16.134
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A HOME.


00:47:16.234 --> 00:47:17.900
YOU HAVE NOT COME
HOME TO A PLACE.

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:19.534
SO THERE'S FOUR
BASIC THINGS,

00:47:19.634 --> 00:47:21.500
YOU DON'T HAVE
THAT SECURITY.

00:47:21.600 --> 00:47:24.800
YOU DO NOT FEEL TOTAL
SECURE IN YOUR FATHER'S LOVE.

00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:26.433
YOU CAN MAYBE HAVE
A LOT OF PIZZAS,

00:47:26.533 --> 00:47:28.734
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT
PAPA GOD OWNS THE BAKERY.

00:47:28.834 --> 00:47:30.000
SO YOU'RE ALWAYS
LIVING FROM MEASURE.

00:47:30.100 --> 00:47:31.467
IT DOESN'T MATTER
HOW MUCH YOU HAVE.

00:47:31.567 --> 00:47:33.933
SO THERE'S AN INSECURITY
AS A RESULT OF THAT.

00:47:34.033 --> 00:47:35.367
SO THE LACK OF SECURITY.


00:47:35.467 --> 00:47:37.400
SECOND OF ALL, THERE'S
LOVE DEFICIENCY.

00:47:37.500 --> 00:47:38.967
YOU'RE STILL
LOOKING FOR LOVE

00:47:39.067 --> 00:47:41.267
AND OFTEN LOOKING FOR
LOVE IN THE WRONG PLACES.

00:47:41.367 --> 00:47:41.900
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:42.667
AND IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.


00:47:42.767 --> 00:47:43.833
LEIF: IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.


00:47:43.933 --> 00:47:46.333
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT
BEING FULLY LOVED BY THE

00:47:46.433 --> 00:47:49.033
FATHER, AND IF YOU DON'T
LOOK AT THAT REPORT CARD

00:47:49.133 --> 00:47:51.134
AND SEE YOU THE
WAY HE SEES YOU,

00:47:51.234 --> 00:47:52.800
THEN YOU'RE LOOKING, HEY,
CAN ANYBODY ELSE SEE

00:47:52.900 --> 00:47:54.366
HOW GREAT I AM?


00:47:54.466 --> 00:47:55.666
CAN ANYBODY
ELSE NOTICE ME?

00:47:55.766 --> 00:47:56.434
CAN YOU AFFIRM ME?


00:47:56.534 --> 00:47:57.233
CAN YOU?


00:47:57.333 --> 00:47:58.666
BECAUSE THE
LOVE DEFICIENCY

00:47:58.766 --> 00:48:00.200
AND THEN THE
ORPHAN SPIRIT.

00:48:00.300 --> 00:48:02.033
THE OTHER THING I SEE
EASILY IN MINISTRY

00:48:02.133 --> 00:48:03.067
WITH THE ORPHAN SPIRIT,


00:48:03.167 --> 00:48:05.033
HOW THEY COMPETE
WITH ONE ANOTHER.

00:48:05.133 --> 00:48:08.200
BUT SONS AND DAUGHTERS
ALWAYS COMPLETE ONE ANOTHER.

00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:09.600
SO IF YOU, REBECCA,
GET BLESSED,

00:48:09.700 --> 00:48:11.967
I GET BLESSED BECAUSE
WE ARE FAMILY.

00:48:12.067 --> 00:48:13.634
AND WHEN THE STOCK
GOES UP TO ONE,

00:48:13.734 --> 00:48:14.800
IT SHOULD GO UP TO
ALL OF US BECAUSE

00:48:14.900 --> 00:48:15.800
WE'RE A FAMILY BUSINESS,


00:48:15.900 --> 00:48:17.066
IF YOU'RE SONS
AND DAUGHTERS.

00:48:17.166 --> 00:48:18.700
WHY DID HE GET
HEALED AND NOT ME?

00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:20.033
OR WHY DID GOD
BLESS THAT PERSON

00:48:20.133 --> 00:48:21.033
AND NOT ME?


00:48:21.133 --> 00:48:22.600
AND YOU FIND ALL OF THOSE
DIFFERENT THINGS,

00:48:22.700 --> 00:48:24.300
TYPICALLY THE
ORPHAN SPIRIT,

00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.333
BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING
AND THEY DON'T BELIEVE

00:48:27.433 --> 00:48:28.767
THAT THE FATHER IS
GOING TO BE

00:48:28.867 --> 00:48:29.834
THE PROTECTOR AND
PROVIDERS.

00:48:29.934 --> 00:48:31.966
YOU NEED TO PROTECT AND
PROVIDE AND DO

00:48:32.066 --> 00:48:32.867
ALL OF THAT.


00:48:32.967 --> 00:48:34.467
SO SECURITY, LOVE,
AND THEN VALUE.

00:48:34.533 --> 00:48:35.700
THERE'S A VALUE
DEFICIENCY.

00:48:35.767 --> 00:48:36.867
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:48:36.967 --> 00:48:38.200
LEIF: AND WHEN YOU FEEL THAT
IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR

00:48:38.300 --> 00:48:41.033
ME TO ADD VALUE TO YOU,
OUR COMING IN HERE.

00:48:41.133 --> 00:48:42.967
HEY, WHAT CAN I GET AND
HOW CAN THIS PROMOTE

00:48:43.067 --> 00:48:43.834
WHAT I DO?


00:48:43.934 --> 00:48:45.834
AND SO THE ORPHAN
WILL HAVE A HOOK,

00:48:45.934 --> 00:48:47.434
A LOVE WITH A HOOK.


00:48:47.534 --> 00:48:49.033
THEY WILL MAYBE
LEARN HOW TO LOVE,

00:48:49.133 --> 00:48:52.267
BUT THEY HAVE A HOOK,
INCLUDING LOVING PEOPLE.

00:48:52.367 --> 00:48:53.033
SO YOU'RE JUST NOT,


00:48:53.133 --> 00:48:54.167
NOT A GOOD SALESPERSON


00:48:54.267 --> 00:48:55.533
AND LEARNED HOW TO LOVE
THEM AS A TOOL IN YOUR

00:48:55.633 --> 00:48:58.200
TOOL BELT, BUT YOU HAVE
NOT REALLY BECOME LOVE,

00:48:58.300 --> 00:49:01.100
AND THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN
WHEN YOU SUDDENLY HAVE

00:49:01.200 --> 00:49:02.867
RECEIVED THIS LOVE
FROM THE FATHER.

00:49:02.967 --> 00:49:05.800
AND YOU CAN LOVE YOU, THE
WAY THAT HE LOVES YOU.

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:07.566
THEN YOU LOVE YOUR
NEIGHBOR, YOUR SPOUSE,

00:49:07.666 --> 00:49:09.567
YOUR FRIEND AS
YOU LOVE YOURSELF.

00:49:09.667 --> 00:49:11.333
BUT IT STARTS
BY RECEIVING IT.

00:49:11.433 --> 00:49:13.667
THEN WE CAN BECOME IT,
THEN WE CAN GIVE IT.

00:49:13.767 --> 00:49:14.967
THEN YOU HAVE
TOTAL SECURITY.

00:49:15.067 --> 00:49:16.134
I'M TOTALLY SECURE.


00:49:16.234 --> 00:49:17.400
I DON'T HAVE TO
PROVE ANYTHING.

00:49:17.500 --> 00:49:19.334
WHEN THE ENEMY COMES AND
HE TRIES TO OFFER ME

00:49:19.434 --> 00:49:20.967
THE WHOLE WORLD WHAT
THEY HAVE TO DO.

00:49:21.067 --> 00:49:21.967
I DON'T NEED ANYTHING.


00:49:22.067 --> 00:49:23.666
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG
WITH IT IN ITSELF.

00:49:23.766 --> 00:49:24.900
BUT I DON'T NEED
ANY OF THAT.

00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:26.800
I HAVE EVERYTHING THAT
I NEED FROM MY FATHER.

00:49:26.900 --> 00:49:27.867
HE IS MY PROVIDER.


00:49:27.967 --> 00:49:29.267
HE IS MY PROTECTOR.


00:49:29.367 --> 00:49:31.400
WHEN I'M LOOKING
INTO HIS FACE,

00:49:31.500 --> 00:49:32.234
AND I GET TO SEE WHO


00:49:32.334 --> 00:49:33.800
HE IS, I GET TO
SEE WHO I AM.

00:49:33.900 --> 00:49:37.133
WHEN I'M HEARING HIS VOICE
AND MY LITTLE VOICE OF MY

00:49:37.233 --> 00:49:38.733
FATHER, HE SAYS, I
LOVE YOU AND I'M

00:49:38.833 --> 00:49:39.800
WELL PLEASED WITH YOU.


00:49:39.900 --> 00:49:42.200
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR
PLEASURE ANYWHERE ELSE.

00:49:42.300 --> 00:49:44.033
SO THOSE BASIC THINGS,
SECURITY,

00:49:44.133 --> 00:49:46.300
LOVE, AND VALUE AND THEN
PURPOSE AND AFFIRMATION.

00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.767
I'M GETTING THAT
FROM OUR FATHER.

00:49:47.867 --> 00:49:49.533
AND THEN BASED
UPON THAT NOW,

00:49:49.633 --> 00:49:51.233
THE WAY THAT I
STARTED TO OPERATE

00:49:51.333 --> 00:49:53.267
IN MY RELATIONSHIP,
IN ALL OF THOSE

00:49:53.367 --> 00:49:55.067
RELATIONSHIPS STARTS
TO CHANGE.

00:49:55.167 --> 00:49:56.900
I'M A SON, BELOVED SON.


00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:58.967
YOU CAN HAVE LEADERSHIP,
APOSTLESHIP, STEWARDSHIP,

00:49:59.067 --> 00:50:00.533
FRIENDSHIP, ALL
THE OTHER SHIP.

00:50:00.633 --> 00:50:02.700
BUT LET IT FOLLOW THAT
LITTLE SHIP CALLED SONSHIP

00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.733
OR DAUGHTERSHIP
BECAUSE THAT'S WHO YOU ARE,

00:50:05.833 --> 00:50:06.967
THEN THERE'S REST.


00:50:07.067 --> 00:50:08.900
AND WHEN YOU ARE AT REST,
THE HOLY SPIRIT ALWAYS

00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.800
FINDS A RESTING PLACE AND
THE SUPERNATURAL WILL BE

00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:15.800
WHAT IS NATURAL.


00:50:15.900 --> 00:50:17.867
AND WHEN YOU FIND YOUR
RESTING PLACE OF WHO YOU

00:50:17.967 --> 00:50:19.133
ARE AND WHOSE YOU ARE.


00:50:19.233 --> 00:50:22.100
BUT THAT STARTS BY FIRST
I RECEIVE HIS LOVE.

00:50:22.200 --> 00:50:25.000
I REALIZE THAT ANY VIEW
THAT I HAD OF PAPA GOD,

00:50:25.100 --> 00:50:27.566
THAT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE
JESUS IS ACTUALLY WRONG.

00:50:27.666 --> 00:50:29.333
REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE
HE'S THE VISIBLE IMAGE

00:50:29.433 --> 00:50:30.567
OF THE INVISIBLE GOD.


00:50:30.667 --> 00:50:31.934
LEIF: EXACTLY.


00:50:32.034 --> 00:50:34.000
REBECCA: SO IF YOUR VIEW OF GOD
THE FATHER IS NOT THE SAME,

00:50:34.100 --> 00:50:35.500
IS NOT WHO JESUS'


00:50:35.600 --> 00:50:37.900
CHARACTER IS THEN
SOMETHING IN YOUR VIEW OF

00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:39.533
GOD THE FATHER IS OFF.


00:50:39.633 --> 00:50:42.534
LEIF: DID YOU KNOW THAT
92% OF AMERICANS

00:50:42.634 --> 00:50:45.366
THAT ARE OUT THERE, HAVE A
VIEW OF GOD THAT IS EITHER

00:50:45.466 --> 00:50:50.000
AUTHORITATIVE, CRITICAL,
DISTANT, ANGRY?

00:50:50.100 --> 00:50:51.200
THEY HAVE --


00:50:51.300 --> 00:50:54.600
BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT 92%
OF THE BELIEVERS HAS?

00:50:54.700 --> 00:50:57.567
SO THE SURVEYS ARE SHOWING US,
US BELIEVERS, HOW WE SEE

00:50:57.667 --> 00:50:59.633
THE FATHERS, HOW WE
HAVE SHOWN THE WORLD.

00:50:59.733 --> 00:51:01.600
AND NOW WE WONDER WHY THE
WORLD IS ANGRY OR MESSED

00:51:01.700 --> 00:51:06.133
UP OR, IS BECAUSE OUR
VIEW OF THE FATHER.

00:51:06.233 --> 00:51:08.033
WHILE FOR ME, IT'S SO
IMPORTANT AND A GOOD

00:51:08.133 --> 00:51:10.600
STARTING POINT THAT I'VE
SHARED SEVERAL DIFFERENT

00:51:10.700 --> 00:51:13.633
TIMES DURING THIS DAY,
IS THAT THE LUKE 15,

00:51:13.733 --> 00:51:16.633
BECAUSE THEY ARE SO
AGITATED AT JESUS WHEN

00:51:16.733 --> 00:51:18.967
LUKE 15 STARTS, HOW
COULD YOU, JESUS,

00:51:19.067 --> 00:51:20.367
BE WHO YOU SAYS YOU ARE?


00:51:20.467 --> 00:51:22.400
DON'T YOU KNOW THAT
SINNERS AND TAX COLLECTORS

00:51:22.500 --> 00:51:24.634
IS HANGING AROUND YOU?


00:51:24.734 --> 00:51:26.834
IT'S THE HEAD OF VIEW OF GOD
THAT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE HIM

00:51:26.934 --> 00:51:28.667
AND THEN JESUS
TELLS THE STORY.

00:51:28.767 --> 00:51:30.600
HE TALKS ABOUT A SHEPHERD.


00:51:30.700 --> 00:51:32.600
HE WILL LEAVE THE
99 FOR THE ONE.

00:51:32.700 --> 00:51:34.467
THEN HE TALKS ABOUT
THE WOMAN WITH A COIN.

00:51:34.567 --> 00:51:35.467
GOD IS LIKE A WOMAN.


00:51:35.567 --> 00:51:37.067
GOD IS LIKE A SHEPHERD
BECAUSE THAT'S THE

00:51:37.167 --> 00:51:40.366
QUESTION HOW HE COULD
BE GOD WHEN HE --

00:51:40.466 --> 00:51:42.066
SINNERS AND TAX
COLLECTORS.

00:51:42.166 --> 00:51:44.033
AND THEN HE SAID, GOD
IS LIKE A FATHER

00:51:44.133 --> 00:51:45.467
THAT HAS TWO SONS.


00:51:45.567 --> 00:51:48.334
AND THEN HE TALKS
ABOUT THE WORSE SIN

00:51:48.434 --> 00:51:50.300
THAT A JEWISH BOY COULD
DO, THE REBELLION

00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.266
AND EVERYTHING, ENDING
UP IN THE PIGPEN

00:51:53.366 --> 00:51:54.167
SMELLING LIKE PIG.


00:51:54.267 --> 00:51:56.133
YOU CANNOT EVEN
EAT PIGS AS A JEW.

00:51:56.233 --> 00:51:59.067
BUT HERE YOU SEE THIS
FATHER THAT IS LOOKING,

00:51:59.167 --> 00:52:00.466
A FATHER, FULL
OF COMPASSION.

00:52:00.566 --> 00:52:01.800
A FATHER RUNNING
TOWARDS HIM,

00:52:01.900 --> 00:52:02.767
NOT AWAY FROM HIM.


00:52:02.867 --> 00:52:03.667
A FATHER EMBRACING HIM


00:52:03.767 --> 00:52:05.967
AND KISSING HIM OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.

00:52:06.067 --> 00:52:07.134
AND WHAT IS JESUS DOING?


00:52:07.234 --> 00:52:10.700
HE'S DESCRIBING A GOD
JUST LIKE HIMSELF.

00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.400
SO YOUR WORST
MOMENT, REBECCA,

00:52:13.500 --> 00:52:14.400
AT YOUR WORST MOMENT,


00:52:14.500 --> 00:52:17.100
THE DARKEST MOMENT, AT
YOUR WORST BEHAVIOR,

00:52:17.200 --> 00:52:18.634
THAT HE DIDN'T
TURN AWAY FROM YOU.

00:52:18.734 --> 00:52:20.200
THAT'S WHAT RELIGION
WANTS TO SAY.

00:52:20.300 --> 00:52:22.367
NOW YOU ARE ACTUALLY
TURNING AWAY FROM HIS LOVE

00:52:22.467 --> 00:52:25.167
AND THE ENEMY IS
BLACKMAILING YOU.

00:52:25.267 --> 00:52:26.700
IT'S NOT THAT
GOD IS NOT HOLY,

00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.634
IT'S JUST IN HIS HOLINESS,


00:52:28.734 --> 00:52:29.567
WHEN HE'S LOOKING
AT US,

00:52:29.667 --> 00:52:31.367
WE ARE THE ONE THAT
IS TURNING AWAY

00:52:31.467 --> 00:52:32.833
BECAUSE OF OUR ISSUES.


00:52:32.933 --> 00:52:35.167
AND THE SAFEST PLACE WE
CAN DO IS TO REPENT

00:52:35.267 --> 00:52:38.034
AND GETTING RIGHT
BACK TO OUR FATHER.

00:52:38.134 --> 00:52:39.266
THAT'S THE SECURITY.


00:52:39.366 --> 00:52:41.434
SO IF THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE,
YOU PUT FIG LEAVES ON,

00:52:41.534 --> 00:52:42.434
YOU'RE COVERING UP.


00:52:42.534 --> 00:52:43.100
YOU'RE AFRAID OF


00:52:43.200 --> 00:52:44.834
NAKEDNESS, TRANSPARENCY.


00:52:44.934 --> 00:52:46.933
IT'S TIME JUST TO STRIP
OFF ALL OF THAT AND COME

00:52:47.033 --> 00:52:48.900
HOME, BECAUSE
THERE IS A FATHER,

00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.000
AND THE BEST OF WHO
YOU ARE WILL ONLY BE

00:52:51.100 --> 00:52:52.633
FOUND IN JESUS.


00:52:52.733 --> 00:52:54.666
BUT YOU CANNOT EXPERIENCE
THE FULLNESS OF JESUS

00:52:54.766 --> 00:52:56.400
WITHOUT BEING LOVED BY
THE SAME FATHER

00:52:56.500 --> 00:52:57.633
THAT JESUS WAS LOVED BY.


00:52:57.733 --> 00:53:00.567
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE
SPECIAL SAUCE OF JESUS.

00:53:00.667 --> 00:53:03.233
AND THAT BECOMES
YOUR SPECIAL SAUCE.

00:53:03.333 --> 00:53:04.734
REBECCA: SO CAN WE PRAY FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING?

00:53:04.834 --> 00:53:06.700
LEIF: WE WOULD
LOVE TO DO THAT.

00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:11.400
SO, FATHER, I JUST WANTED
TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

00:53:11.500 --> 00:53:13.067
ALL OF THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE OUT THERE,

00:53:13.167 --> 00:53:15.734
THEY'RE JUST, THEY CAN EVEN
SENSE IT RIGHT NOW,

00:53:15.834 --> 00:53:20.233
THE LONGING FOR BELONGING.


00:53:20.333 --> 00:53:22.567
AND IN JOHN
14:18, JESUS SAYS,

00:53:22.667 --> 00:53:24.567
I WILL NOT LEAVE
YOU AS AN ORPHAN,

00:53:24.667 --> 00:53:26.534
I WILL COME TO YOU.


00:53:26.634 --> 00:53:28.300
I WILL NOT LEAVE
YOU AS AN ORPHAN,

00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.400
I WILL COME TO YOU.


00:53:30.500 --> 00:53:33.100
THE REASON JESUS SAID THAT
WAS BECAUSE HE HEARD THE

00:53:33.200 --> 00:53:36.167
FATHER SAY THAT, AND ALL
HE SAID IS WHAT HE HEARD

00:53:36.267 --> 00:53:37.633
HIS FATHER SAY.


00:53:37.733 --> 00:53:40.000
HE SAID, I ACTUALLY CAME
TO RESTORE YOU BACK TO THE

00:53:40.100 --> 00:53:42.400
SAME LOVE THAT I'VE
EXPERIENCED FROM MY FATHER.

00:53:42.500 --> 00:53:46.267
THIS PERFECT LOVE, JUST AS
IF YOU HAD NEVER SINNED.

00:53:46.367 --> 00:53:47.567
SO FATHER, I JUST
RELEASE NOW THAT

00:53:47.667 --> 00:53:48.600
LOVE THAT I EXPERIENCED,


00:53:48.700 --> 00:53:51.433
DECEMBER '99, THAT WAS
JUST COMING OVER ME.

00:53:51.533 --> 00:53:54.566
THE VERY LOVE THAT I SAW
INTO THE EYES OF MALACHI,

00:53:54.666 --> 00:53:56.167
MY GRANDSON.


00:53:56.267 --> 00:53:59.566
WHEN I LOOKED AT HIS FACE
AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND WOW.

00:53:59.666 --> 00:54:00.800
AND WHEN I LOOKED
AT THAT FACE,

00:54:00.900 --> 00:54:03.300
THAT INNOCENCE AND THE
CHILDLIKENESS AND THE WAY

00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.367
I FELT THIS LOVE FOR
THAT LITTLE BOY,

00:54:05.467 --> 00:54:06.633
I REALIZED THAT'S HOW
THE FATHER IS

00:54:06.733 --> 00:54:09.033
SEEING YOU RIGHT NOW.


00:54:09.133 --> 00:54:11.566
AND I'M JUST ASKING AT
THIS MOMENT THAT THAT EYES,

00:54:11.666 --> 00:54:13.900
THOSE EYES OF LOVE THAT I
FELT WHEN I LOOKED

00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.034
AT MY GRANDSON LAST WEEK,
AND I WEPT AND I WEPT

00:54:17.134 --> 00:54:18.833
BECAUSE I REALIZED
THE FATHER GOD, LEIF,

00:54:18.933 --> 00:54:20.033
THAT'S HOW I SEE YOU.


00:54:20.133 --> 00:54:22.433
THAT'S HOW HE SEES YOU.


00:54:22.533 --> 00:54:24.167
AND HE'S GOING TO
RESTORE YOUR INNOCENCE

00:54:24.267 --> 00:54:26.434
AND YOUR CHILDLIKENESS BACK.


00:54:26.534 --> 00:54:28.267
SO JUST COME, HOLY SPIRIT,


00:54:28.367 --> 00:54:29.634
ACCORDING TO
ROMANS 5:5,

00:54:29.734 --> 00:54:31.767
AND IMMERSE US
IN THAT LOVE,

00:54:31.867 --> 00:54:33.566
THAT LOVE OF THE FATHER.


00:54:33.666 --> 00:54:36.133
JUST LET THOSE WAVES OF
LOVE GOING INTO THOSE

00:54:36.233 --> 00:54:38.600
HIDDEN CORE AREAS
IN OUR LIFE.

00:54:38.700 --> 00:54:39.867
JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES


00:54:39.967 --> 00:54:42.333
AND JUST VISUALIZE
THIS PAPA,

00:54:42.433 --> 00:54:43.666
THAT HE IS A GOOD PAPA.


00:54:43.766 --> 00:54:44.967
HE LOOKS --


00:54:45.067 --> 00:54:46.800
SO IF YOU SAY IT'S HARD FOR
ME BECAUSE AN EARTHLY FATHER,

00:54:46.900 --> 00:54:49.967
JUST FORGIVE THOSE OF
YOU AND JUST IMAGINE

00:54:50.067 --> 00:54:50.933
HOW JESUS IS.


00:54:51.033 --> 00:54:52.466
IF IT IS LIKE IN
THE CHOSEN SERIES,

00:54:52.566 --> 00:54:54.334
WHATEVER IMAGE
YOU HAVE OF JESUS,

00:54:54.434 --> 00:54:57.567
JUST LET THAT BE
THE PICTURE OF PAPA,

00:54:57.667 --> 00:54:58.667
AND COME HOME.


00:54:58.767 --> 00:55:01.233
ALLOW HIM TO LOVE ON YOU
IN A WAY YOU'VE NEVER BEEN

00:55:01.333 --> 00:55:04.533
LOVED BEFORE AND
TO MAKE YOU WHOLE.

00:55:04.633 --> 00:55:07.267
SO THOSE EYES OF LOVE,
THOSE EYES OF LOVE,

00:55:07.367 --> 00:55:09.400
BRING HEALING RIGHT NOW.


00:55:09.500 --> 00:55:11.633
THE ARMS OF LOVE TO
EMBRACE YOU AND GIVE YOU

00:55:11.733 --> 00:55:13.700
THAT SECURITY WHEN
HE HUGS AROUND YOU.

00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.033
WHOA.


00:55:15.133 --> 00:55:19.867
JUST HEAL ANY AREA OF
BEING UNWANTED AND, OH,

00:55:19.967 --> 00:55:22.500
THE KISSES FROM PAPA.


00:55:22.600 --> 00:55:23.967
THE FIRST TIME THAT
HAPPENED TO ME,

00:55:24.067 --> 00:55:25.000
IT WRECKED ME.


00:55:25.100 --> 00:55:26.700
LET IT WRECK YOU RIGHT
NOW THAT THE FATHER,

00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:29.500
THAT GOD, THE CREATOR OF
THE UNIVERSE, IS YOUR PAPA.

00:55:29.600 --> 00:55:31.000
JUST AS I
KISS MY GRANDCHILD,

00:55:31.100 --> 00:55:32.466
HE'S KISSING YOU.


00:55:32.566 --> 00:55:34.634
AND HE REMINDS YOU
THIS IS WHO YOU ARE.

00:55:34.734 --> 00:55:37.067
LEIF, YOU ARE NOT THIS
OR THAT.

00:55:37.167 --> 00:55:38.467
YOU HAVE BEEN MY
AMBASSADOR OF LOVE.

00:55:38.567 --> 00:55:39.400
YOU'RE MY SON


00:55:39.500 --> 00:55:41.300
THAT REPRESENTS ME IN
THE MIDDLE EAST

00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:42.666
AND ALL OVER WHERE
YOU GO.

00:55:42.766 --> 00:55:44.066
YOU'RE REPRESENTING
MY LOVE.

00:55:44.166 --> 00:55:46.867
AND JUST TELL PEOPLE WHAT
I'VE DONE IN YOUR LIFE AND

00:55:46.967 --> 00:55:49.733
HOW I TOOK YOU FROM
BROKENNESS TO HELPING YOU

00:55:49.833 --> 00:55:53.000
TO FIND HOW GOOD I AM
AND HOW LOVED YOU ARE.

00:55:53.100 --> 00:55:55.967
I RELEASE THOSE WAVES OF
LOVE TO CONTINUE FOR THE

00:55:56.067 --> 00:55:58.866
NEXT 24 HOURS.


00:55:58.966 --> 00:56:02.333
SO YOU BECOME LOVE SO
THAT YOU CAN GIVE LOVE,

00:56:02.433 --> 00:56:05.733
RECEIVE, BECOME, RELEASE
BECAUSE YOU ARE ROOTED

00:56:05.833 --> 00:56:07.000
AND GROUNDED IN LOVE.


00:56:07.100 --> 00:56:09.167
TO KNOW HOW HIGH AND DEEP
AND WIDE AND LONG THAT

00:56:09.267 --> 00:56:13.934
LOVE IS, SO THAT THE
FULLNESS DWELLS IN THERE.

00:56:14.034 --> 00:56:15.900
JUST TOUCH REBECCA
RIGHT NOW,

00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.366
EVEN WITH HER LITTLE
BABY THAT SHE CARRIES.

00:56:18.466 --> 00:56:21.066
AND I THANK YOU FOR THE
ASSIGNMENT THAT SHE HAS TO

00:56:21.166 --> 00:56:23.867
BE AN AMBASSADOR OF LOVE,
TO BE A LOVE AMBASSADOR IN

00:56:23.967 --> 00:56:26.166
THIS CULTURE, TO BE
A CULTURE SHAPER.

00:56:26.266 --> 00:56:28.400
I JUST SAW THAT THERE IS A
WHOLE GENERATION THAT YOU ARE

00:56:28.500 --> 00:56:31.633
RESTORING THEIR IDENTITY,
A WHOLE GENERATION,

00:56:31.733 --> 00:56:33.100
YOU'RE RESTORING
THEIR VALUE.

00:56:33.200 --> 00:56:34.700
BUT I FELT THE PICTURE
THAT CAME TO ME,

00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.067
YOU'RE ALSO RESTORING THE
DREAMS, A GENERATION

00:56:37.167 --> 00:56:38.434
HAD STOPPED DREAMING.


00:56:38.534 --> 00:56:39.934
AND PAPA GOD WANTS
TO DREAM WITH HIS

00:56:40.034 --> 00:56:41.133
SONS AND DAUGHTERS.


00:56:41.233 --> 00:56:42.200
THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.


00:56:42.300 --> 00:56:43.333
THEY KNOW HOW VALUABLE.


00:56:43.433 --> 00:56:44.767
JESUS DIDN'T DIE ON THE


00:56:44.867 --> 00:56:46.134
CROSS TO MAKE
THEM VALUABLE.

00:56:46.234 --> 00:56:48.633
HE DIED ON THE CROSS BECAUSE
THEY ARE VALUABLE.

00:56:48.733 --> 00:56:50.700
JUST LOOK AT THE PRICE
THAT JESUS PAID.

00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:52.867
AND I JUST SAW THAT YOU'RE
RESTORING THE VALUE BACK

00:56:52.967 --> 00:56:54.866
AGAIN TO A GENERATION
THAT THE ENEMY

00:56:54.966 --> 00:56:55.967
HAS BEEN DEVALUED.


00:56:56.067 --> 00:56:59.133
AND WITH SO MANY COUNTERFEIT
AFFECTION OF LOVE,

00:56:59.233 --> 00:57:01.167
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING
TO HELP THEM TO DREAM AND

00:57:01.267 --> 00:57:03.467
TO WAKE UP IN THE MORNING
AND TO DREAM WITH PAPA GOD.

00:57:03.567 --> 00:57:05.500
DREAM SOME BIG DREAM THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO NEED

00:57:05.600 --> 00:57:07.434
THE HOLY SPIRIT, THEY'RE
GOING TO NEED JESUS.

00:57:07.534 --> 00:57:08.533
THEY'RE GOING
TO NEED PAPA,

00:57:08.633 --> 00:57:10.200
BUT THEY'RE GOING
TO NEED ONE ANOTHER.

00:57:10.300 --> 00:57:13.200
SO RAISE UP A HEALTHY
CULTURE, FAMILY CULTURE.

00:57:13.300 --> 00:57:14.433
AND I THANK YOU
FOR REBECCA

00:57:14.533 --> 00:57:17.200
FOR BEING A FORERUNNER FOR
THAT GENERATION TO PREPARE,

00:57:17.300 --> 00:57:18.034
TO PREPARE US.


00:57:18.134 --> 00:57:19.067
AND THE PICTURE


00:57:19.167 --> 00:57:20.566
I SAW LIKE THIS DANIEL,
SHADRACH, MESHACH,

00:57:20.666 --> 00:57:22.667
AND ABEDNEGO, THAT
THESE FOUR FRIENDS,

00:57:22.767 --> 00:57:24.533
THAT YOU CAN PUT THEM INTO
ANY CULTURE AND THEY WOULD

00:57:24.633 --> 00:57:26.967
CHANGE THE CULTURE BECAUSE
THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

00:57:27.067 --> 00:57:28.633
AND THE ENEMY MAY BE
TAKING THE LABEL AND

00:57:28.733 --> 00:57:30.766
RENAMED THEM AND
PUT THE ENEMY'S NAME.

00:57:30.866 --> 00:57:31.933
AND SOME OF THE
PEOPLE OUT THERE,

00:57:32.033 --> 00:57:32.766
YOU MAY HAVE THE NAME


00:57:32.866 --> 00:57:34.267
SHAME ON YOU OR
GUILT OR FEAR,

00:57:34.367 --> 00:57:35.800
BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
UP THOSE LABELS OFF.

00:57:35.900 --> 00:57:37.033
THAT'S NOT WHO YOU ARE.


00:57:37.133 --> 00:57:38.233
LET ME TELL YOU
WHO YOU ARE.

00:57:38.333 --> 00:57:40.534
AND LET'S PUT THE
REAL NAME ON YOU.

00:57:40.634 --> 00:57:41.934
YOU ARE BELOVED
AND YOU'RE BELOVED

00:57:42.034 --> 00:57:43.434
SONS AND DAUGHTERS.


00:57:43.534 --> 00:57:45.466
SO PUT THAT NAME ON
YOU, THAT NAME TAG,

00:57:45.566 --> 00:57:46.533
LOOK IN THE MIRROR


00:57:46.633 --> 00:57:48.600
AND SEE YOU THE WAY
THAT PAPA GOD SEES YOU.

00:57:48.700 --> 00:57:49.567
IT IS THE TRUTH


00:57:49.667 --> 00:57:52.334
AND KNOWING THAT TRUTH
WILL SET YOU FREE.

00:57:52.434 --> 00:57:53.400
AND FREE PEOPLE OUT THERE,


00:57:53.500 --> 00:57:55.267
YOU'RE GOING TO
SET PEOPLE FREE.

00:57:55.367 --> 00:57:57.667
SO BE FREE IN JESUS' NAME.


00:57:57.767 --> 00:57:59.566
IN JESUS NAME', AMEN.


00:57:59.666 --> 00:58:00.500
AMEN, AMEN.


00:58:00.600 --> 00:58:02.034
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:58:02.134 --> 00:58:04.100
SUCH A GOOD PRAYER.


00:58:04.200 --> 00:58:05.500
THANK YOU SO MUCH.


00:58:05.600 --> 00:58:06.833
AND I THAT'S WHAT I
REALLY FELT.

00:58:06.933 --> 00:58:09.667
EVEN LIKE JUST BEING AROUND YOU
BEFORE WE FILMED IS LIKE

00:58:09.767 --> 00:58:11.700
YOU'RE WALKING IN
LIKE REAL FREEDOM.

00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:14.267
AND I -- IT'S LIKE I,
IT'S LIKE,

00:58:14.367 --> 00:58:16.466
I WANT THAT AND I WANT OTHER
PEOPLE TO HAVE THAT, TOO.

00:58:16.566 --> 00:58:19.233
IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU REALLY
KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND YOU

00:58:19.333 --> 00:58:21.833
DON'T FEEL YOU DON'T NEED
ANYTHING FROM ANYONE,

00:58:21.933 --> 00:58:23.733
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVE
ANYTHING TO ANYONE,

00:58:23.833 --> 00:58:26.100
THAT'S REAL FREEDOM,
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING

00:58:26.200 --> 00:58:28.800
IN TO THIS WORLD AROUND
YOU WANTING TO LIKE

00:58:28.900 --> 00:58:29.966
SUCK SOMETHING OUT.


00:58:30.066 --> 00:58:31.800
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE COMING TO
BRING SOMETHING AND YOU

00:58:31.900 --> 00:58:33.733
DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING TO PROVE.

00:58:33.833 --> 00:58:35.567
AND THAT'S WHEN YOU
CAN REALLY MAKE

00:58:35.667 --> 00:58:37.700
SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE.


00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:39.800
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT,

00:58:39.900 --> 00:58:42.167
IS JUST THE
FREEDOM THAT COMES.

00:58:42.267 --> 00:58:43.733
AND, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S JUST MY --

00:58:43.833 --> 00:58:44.900
I THINK MY HEART JUST


00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.367
DOING THIS PODCAST IS I
JUST WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE

00:58:47.467 --> 00:58:49.766
THAT FREEDOM, YOU KNOW.


00:58:49.866 --> 00:58:53.000
SO YOU SAID THAT,


00:58:53.100 --> 00:58:54.334
IT WAS A PROCESS.


00:58:54.434 --> 00:58:56.800
SO WHEN YOU HAD THAT
EXPERIENCE YOU WERE IN --

00:58:56.900 --> 00:58:59.300
SO WHEN YOU WERE IN '99 AND
YOU WERE IN THAT MEETING,

00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:00.334
YOU HAD BEEN IN A PLACE,


00:59:00.434 --> 00:59:01.400
YOU WERE PROBABLY AT YOUR


00:59:01.500 --> 00:59:04.333
LOW POINT WHERE YOU
HAD BEEN IN THIS --

00:59:04.433 --> 00:59:06.133
YOU HAD BEEN IN A REALLY
BAD CAR ACCIDENT AND YOU

00:59:06.233 --> 00:59:07.867
HAD BROKEN YOUR --


00:59:07.967 --> 00:59:10.200
HOW MUCH DAMAGE DID
YOU HAVE TO YOUR BODY?

00:59:10.300 --> 00:59:11.800
LEIF: I BROKE MY BACK,
SEVEN RIBS,

00:59:11.900 --> 00:59:13.067
MY LEG IN
DIFFERENT PLACES.

00:59:13.167 --> 00:59:14.233
I HAD QUITE A --


00:59:14.333 --> 00:59:16.633
REBECCA: YOU WERE IN A
REALLY INTENSE CAR ACCIDENT.

00:59:16.733 --> 00:59:17.866
YOU HAD 12 SURGERIES.


00:59:17.966 --> 00:59:19.167
LEIF: YEAH.


00:59:19.267 --> 00:59:20.600
REBECCA: AND THEN YOU SAID YOU
ALSO HAD BEEN KICKED OUT OF

00:59:20.700 --> 00:59:23.166
YOUR DENOMINATION, WHICH
THAT'S A REALLY BIG REJECTION.

00:59:23.266 --> 00:59:23.867
LEIF: YEAH.


00:59:23.967 --> 00:59:25.066
REBECCA: AND VERY PAINFUL.


00:59:25.166 --> 00:59:26.933
SO YOU WERE IN THIS LOW
PLACE AND YOU SAID THAT

00:59:27.033 --> 00:59:29.300
YOU HAD THIS REVELATION
WHEN YOUR DAUGHTER WAS

00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:31.966
SITTING ON YOUR LAP,
THAT YOUR THAT --

00:59:32.066 --> 00:59:33.067
WHAT WAS THAT
REVELATION AGAIN?

00:59:33.167 --> 00:59:35.100
LEIF: THE BIGGEST REVELATION
WHEN SHE SAT THERE,

00:59:35.200 --> 00:59:38.666
I REALIZED JUST THAT I'M
NOT ABLE TO DO MY DREAM.

00:59:38.766 --> 00:59:40.034
I'M NOT ABLE TO
DO ANYTHING MORE.

00:59:40.134 --> 00:59:41.967
ALL THE VALUE SYSTEM
I JUST --

00:59:42.067 --> 00:59:43.333
THAT STARTED MY PROCESS,


00:59:43.433 --> 00:59:46.667
THAT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE
TRIED TO DO, I CAN'T DO.

00:59:46.767 --> 00:59:47.834
REBECCA: SO IT'S KIND OF
LIKE WHEN IT WAS ALL

00:59:47.934 --> 00:59:49.000
TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU.


00:59:49.100 --> 00:59:50.000
LEIF: IT WAS
TAKEN AWAY.

00:59:50.100 --> 00:59:51.500
REBECCA: AND YOU COULD
NEVER DO --

00:59:51.600 --> 00:59:53.267
YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO
PERFORM ANYMORE THAT YOU

00:59:53.367 --> 00:59:54.733
REALIZED SOMETHING'S OFF.


00:59:54.833 --> 00:59:55.733
LEIF: YEAH, AND
THEN AT

00:59:55.833 --> 00:59:57.600
THAT MOMENT,
IT STARTED FOR ME TO OPEN

00:59:57.700 --> 00:59:59.900
MYSELF BECAUSE I HAD
TO GET TO THE BOTTOM

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.300
BEFORE I COULD GET HELP.


01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:03.633
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT
PEOPLE NEED TO BE WHERE I

01:00:03.733 --> 01:00:05.800
WAS AT, BUT YOU HAVE TO
HIT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR

01:00:05.900 --> 01:00:08.067
ORPHAN STATE WHERE
YOU FINALLY SAYS, NO,

01:00:08.167 --> 01:00:09.800
I DON'T WANT TO OPERATE
AS AN ORPHAN ANY LONGER.

01:00:09.900 --> 01:00:10.933
REBECCA: I'M NOT GOING
TO PERFORM ANYMORE.

01:00:11.033 --> 01:00:12.700
LEIF: I'M NOT GOING
TO PERFORM.

01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:14.434
YEAH, AND I CANNOT GIVE
SOMETHING I DIDN'T RECEIVE.

01:00:14.534 --> 01:00:15.534
SO IT HAS TO --


01:00:15.634 --> 01:00:18.100
SO I POSITIONED MYSELF TO
RECEIVE SOMETHING THAT I

01:00:18.200 --> 01:00:19.767
COULD NOT DO
ANYTHING FOR JUST

01:00:19.867 --> 01:00:21.366
LIKE MY SALVATION
HAD BEEN.

01:00:21.466 --> 01:00:24.200
NOW I NEEDED SOMETHING
ELSE IN MY LIFE TO HEAL,

01:00:24.300 --> 01:00:25.434
SOMETHING THAT WAS BROKEN.


01:00:25.534 --> 01:00:26.633
BUT I REALIZED I'M BROKEN.


01:00:26.733 --> 01:00:29.300
NOT JUST SPIRITUALLY,
EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY.

01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:30.334
SO IT'S JUST
BEING HONEST WITH

01:00:30.434 --> 01:00:32.067
YOURSELF AND AUTHENTICITY.


01:00:32.167 --> 01:00:34.233
AND I'M HONEST, I CAN'T
DO THIS ANY LONGER.

01:00:34.333 --> 01:00:35.933
I CAN'T MINISTER, I
CAN'T BE THE HUSBAND.

01:00:36.033 --> 01:00:39.200
I CANNOT BE THE FATHER,
I CANNOT, I FAILED,

01:00:39.300 --> 01:00:40.133
I CAN'T DO IT.


01:00:40.233 --> 01:00:41.667
AND GOD SAYS, GOOD,
NOW WE CAN BEGIN.

01:00:41.767 --> 01:00:44.933
SO THAT KIND OF SET ME UP
FOR WHAT BECAME THE BAPTISM.

01:00:45.033 --> 01:00:47.367
LET ME SHOW YOU THEN,
RECEIVE FROM ME.

01:00:47.467 --> 01:00:49.367
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I'VE
WANTED FROM THE BEGINNING

01:00:49.467 --> 01:00:50.900
FOR YOU JUST TO
RECEIVE FROM ME.

01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.633
YOU WERE NEVER
CALLED TO DO IT.

01:00:52.733 --> 01:00:55.733
I'VE ALWAYS JUST WANTED
YOU TO RECEIVE FROM ME,

01:00:55.833 --> 01:00:56.634
JUST LIKE MY SON.


01:00:56.734 --> 01:00:58.334
ALL HE DID, WHAT
HE SAW ME DO,

01:00:58.434 --> 01:00:59.667
HE SAID WHAT HE
HEARD ME SAY.

01:00:59.767 --> 01:01:01.600
JESUS SAID, IT'S
BETTER I'M GOING AWAY.

01:01:01.700 --> 01:01:03.400
I'M SENDING YOU THE SAME
HELPER THAT JESUS HAD,

01:01:03.500 --> 01:01:05.134
THE HOLY SPIRIT.


01:01:05.234 --> 01:01:06.333
AND THEN HE'S
GOING TO COME

01:01:06.433 --> 01:01:07.633
AND HE'S GOING TO
REST UPON YOU

01:01:07.733 --> 01:01:10.900
WHEN YOU FIND THAT RESTING
PLACE AND THEN YOU GET TO

01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.934
DO WHAT I DO AND BE
CONNECTED TO THE SAME

01:01:14.034 --> 01:01:16.600
FATHER THAT JESUS WAS
BEING FATHERED BY.

01:01:16.700 --> 01:01:17.566
AND THAT'S THE KEY


01:01:17.666 --> 01:01:19.500
AND NOT LIVING ANY
LONGER AS AN ORPHAN.

01:01:19.600 --> 01:01:22.134
THAT'S WHAT JESUS
SAID IN JOHN 14:18.

01:01:22.234 --> 01:01:23.967
AND IT WAS A PROCESS
BECAUSE I THINK THE SECOND

01:01:24.067 --> 01:01:26.067
STAGE OF MINE WAS SIX,
SEVEN YEARS LATER,

01:01:26.167 --> 01:01:28.934
WHERE I GOT BURNED OUT
AND CRASHLANDED.

01:01:29.034 --> 01:01:30.234
NOT BECAUSE I
WAS NOT LOVED,

01:01:30.334 --> 01:01:32.367
BUT NOW I STARTED TO LOVE THE
WHOLE WORLD AND LOVE OPENED

01:01:32.467 --> 01:01:33.300
UP AND LOVE --


01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:35.000
BUT IT WAS LOVE
THAT WAS MOTIVATED.

01:01:35.100 --> 01:01:36.133
BUT NOW IT WAS


01:01:36.233 --> 01:01:38.000
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO LOVE
MYSELF THE WAY PAPA GOD

01:01:38.100 --> 01:01:40.367
LOVED ME.


01:01:40.467 --> 01:01:42.933
AND THAT WAS THE SECOND
STAGE OF MY JOURNEY.

01:01:43.033 --> 01:01:46.700
REBECCA: OKAY, SO WHEN YOU
FIRST CAME TO THE LORD,

01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:49.567
FATHER GOD WAS THERE
WANTING TO GIVE YOU LOVE,

01:01:49.667 --> 01:01:52.300
BUT YOUR NATURAL REACTION
WAS JUST TO PERFORM

01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.100
BECAUSE YOU HAD
THIS ORPHANNESS.

01:01:54.200 --> 01:01:57.267
AND THEN YOU GOT TO
YOUR LOWEST POINT,

01:01:57.367 --> 01:01:59.700
AND THEN YOU REALIZED I
CAN'T PERFORM ANYMORE.

01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:00.667
GOD HELP ME.


01:02:00.767 --> 01:02:02.967
THEN YOU HAVE THIS
ENCOUNTER WITH GOD WHERE

01:02:03.067 --> 01:02:05.500
DENNIS, WHO'S A PROPHETIC
WORSHIP LEADER,

01:02:05.600 --> 01:02:07.467
SANG A FATHER GOD
SONG OVER YOU AND YOU

01:02:07.567 --> 01:02:10.033
EXPERIENCE THAT
BAPTISM OF LOVE.

01:02:10.133 --> 01:02:12.367
GOD STARTS WALKING YOU
THROUGH YOUR LIFE FROM

01:02:12.467 --> 01:02:15.067
BEING A BABY TO THAT
TIME WHEN YOU'RE 12.

01:02:15.167 --> 01:02:17.000
AND WHAT DID HE
DO IN THAT MOMENT?

01:02:17.100 --> 01:02:18.300
HE SHOWED YOU LOVE.


01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:20.267
LEIF: IT WAS LIKE A
PICTURE OF MY BROKEN

01:02:20.367 --> 01:02:21.134
AND THEN LOVE CAME IN.


01:02:21.234 --> 01:02:22.433
HE JUST KIND OF WASHED --


01:02:22.533 --> 01:02:23.200
REBECCA: AND LIKE HEALED IT.


01:02:23.300 --> 01:02:24.300
LEIF: HEALED IT,
HEALED IT, YEAH.

01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.233
IT WAS A HEALING THAT
WENT INTO THOSE CRACKS.

01:02:26.333 --> 01:02:27.867
THEN IT WENT INTO THE NEXT
THING AND THE NEXT THING,

01:02:27.967 --> 01:02:29.600
WHICH IS WAVES, THE WAVES.


01:02:29.700 --> 01:02:30.800
IT WAS LIKE, I'M JUST
SITTING THERE AND I'M

01:02:30.900 --> 01:02:31.566
LAYING ON THE
FLOOR JUST WAVES.

01:02:31.666 --> 01:02:32.900
REBECCA: JUST WAVES WITH LOVE.


01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:34.134
LEIF: BUT IT WAS LIKE
THE VISUAL.

01:02:34.234 --> 01:02:35.500
I DON'T KNOW IF IT
WAS DREAM VISION,

01:02:35.600 --> 01:02:36.466
BUT I'M JUST LAYING THERE.


01:02:36.566 --> 01:02:37.866
IT'S LIKE PICTURES
OF THINGS THAT I --

01:02:37.966 --> 01:02:39.467
IT'S SUBCONSCIOUS.


01:02:39.567 --> 01:02:41.734
90% THAT WAS COMING THERE,
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT,

01:02:41.834 --> 01:02:42.700
BUT FATHER KNEW.


01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:44.833
HE JUST LET HIS LOVE
GO INTO THOSE CRACKS

01:02:44.933 --> 01:02:45.900
IN THE FOUNDATION.


01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:47.467
AND SO YOU'RE GETTING
INTO AN OCEAN OF LOVE

01:02:47.567 --> 01:02:48.567
AND YOU START TO DRINK.


01:02:48.667 --> 01:02:50.567
AND IT GOES INTO EVERY
AREA UNTIL YOU ARE IN THE

01:02:50.667 --> 01:02:51.900
LOVE, AND THE
LOVE IS IN YOU.

01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:53.367
AND SUDDENLY, SOMETHING
IN YOU BECOMES ALIVE,

01:02:53.467 --> 01:02:56.633
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE
BORN TO BE AND TO DO.

01:02:56.733 --> 01:02:57.800
THAT'S THE BEST PICTURE.


01:02:57.900 --> 01:02:59.400
REBECCA: SO YOU GET UP
FROM THIS EXPERIENCE,

01:02:59.500 --> 01:03:01.333
BUT YOU SAY
IT'S A PROCESS.

01:03:01.433 --> 01:03:04.534
SO FROM THERE YOU SAID
THAT YOU WENT FROM LIKE

01:03:04.634 --> 01:03:06.300
LOVING THE WHOLE WORLD,
BUT THEN YOU SAID

01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.600
SOMETHING HAPPENED
SEVEN YEARS LATER.

01:03:08.700 --> 01:03:10.300
LEIF: YEAH, AND PART OF
WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW,

01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.367
I'M A SON DOING WHAT
THE FATHER'S DOING.

01:03:12.467 --> 01:03:13.833
BUT NOW I'M GETTING
FAVOR BECAUSE

01:03:13.933 --> 01:03:14.933
A SON WOULD ADOPT.


01:03:15.033 --> 01:03:17.366
AND ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE
WANTED THIS NEW MESSAGE.

01:03:17.466 --> 01:03:18.833
THEY STARTED TO
HEAR ABOUT IT.

01:03:18.933 --> 01:03:21.300
SO IN THE NEXT MOMENT, I'M
ON TV SHOWS AND START TO

01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:24.700
WRITE BOOKS AND YOU GET --
AND THINGS START TO TAKE OFF.

01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:26.866
WE NEED THIS IN AFRICA,
WE NEED THIS IN PAKISTAN.

01:03:26.966 --> 01:03:28.066
REBECCA: BECAUSE THERE'S
SUCH A HUGE NEED.

01:03:28.166 --> 01:03:29.667
LEIF: THERE WAS,
EVERYWHERE WAS THERE,

01:03:29.767 --> 01:03:30.866
SO IN THE NEXT MONTH.


01:03:30.966 --> 01:03:32.666
BUT I STILL HAD
PHYSICAL PAIN.

01:03:32.766 --> 01:03:34.900
AND THEN THERE WAS OTHER
ATTACKS THAT CAME IN,

01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:35.900
IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL
OF THAT.

01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.667
SO A COMBINATION
OF ALL OF THAT.

01:03:37.767 --> 01:03:39.267
AND THEN I HAD
BEEN ON OPIATES,

01:03:39.367 --> 01:03:41.600
PAIN MEDICATION FOR
ALSO ALL THE SURGERIES.

01:03:41.700 --> 01:03:44.533
AND SO YOU WENT THROUGH
MORE OF THOSE PROCESSES.

01:03:44.633 --> 01:03:46.767
BUT THEN BY DECEMBER
AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS,

01:03:46.867 --> 01:03:47.500
EXCUSE ME.


01:03:47.600 --> 01:03:50.800
IT WAS IN, MAY 26, 2006.


01:03:50.900 --> 01:03:54.434
BUT DECEMBER 2005, IT
STARTED WHERE GOD TOOK ME

01:03:54.534 --> 01:03:55.700
TO A FIVE-MONTH
PERIOD OF TIME.

01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:57.400
HE JUST LIFTED
HIS PRESENCE,

01:03:57.500 --> 01:04:00.234
AND I WENT TO A TREATMENT
CENTER AND WENT TO ANOTHER

01:04:00.334 --> 01:04:01.733
PROCESS IN MY LIFE.


01:04:01.833 --> 01:04:03.667
BUT THE MAJOR THING
HE WAS GOING AFTER

01:04:03.767 --> 01:04:05.267
AT THAT MOMENT, LEIF,


01:04:05.367 --> 01:04:07.833
YOU HAVE NOT YET
LEARNED TO LOVE YOU

01:04:07.933 --> 01:04:10.200
THE WAY THAT I LOVE YOU.


01:04:10.300 --> 01:04:12.667
AND I JUST REALIZED THAT
I'VE RECEIVED THIS LOVE

01:04:12.767 --> 01:04:13.800
AND I GIVE THIS LOVE.


01:04:13.900 --> 01:04:18.000
BUT I DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME
TO BE ABLE TO BE LOVING

01:04:18.100 --> 01:04:20.200
MYSELF THE WAY
PAPA GOD LOVES ME.

01:04:20.300 --> 01:04:22.567
AND I REALIZED, LIKE ONE
EXAMPLE WOULD BE JOHN IN

01:04:22.667 --> 01:04:24.100
THE BIBLE, THAT JOHN, WOW.


01:04:24.200 --> 01:04:26.100
HE KNEW HOW MUCH
JESUS LOVED HIM,

01:04:26.200 --> 01:04:29.200
BUT HE STILL ENDED UP AS A SON
OF THUNDER UNTIL LATER ON.

01:04:29.300 --> 01:04:30.834
SIX TIMES IN THE GOSPEL
OF JOHN, JOHN SAYS,

01:04:30.934 --> 01:04:32.434
I'M THE ONE THAT HE LOVES.


01:04:32.534 --> 01:04:32.934
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:04:33.034 --> 01:04:33.633
LEIF: SIX TIMES.


01:04:33.733 --> 01:04:35.233
NOBODY ELSE SAYS THAT.


01:04:35.333 --> 01:04:36.034
REBECCA: IT'S NOT A PRIDE THING.


01:04:36.134 --> 01:04:37.333
IT WAS LIKE A REVELATION.


01:04:37.433 --> 01:04:38.700
LEIF: IT WAS A REVELATION
TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR

01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:39.767
AND SEE WHAT --


01:04:39.867 --> 01:04:42.233
IT'S NOT JUST, NO,
I'M HIS FAVORITE ONE.

01:04:42.333 --> 01:04:44.100
AND PAPA GOD WANTS
THAT FOR EACH ONE.

01:04:44.200 --> 01:04:46.267
I HAVE TWO
GRANDKIDS, FOUR KIDS.

01:04:46.367 --> 01:04:47.500
ALL OF THEM FEEL THAT
WAY AND I WANT THEM

01:04:47.600 --> 01:04:49.100
TO FEEL THAT WAY.


01:04:49.200 --> 01:04:50.767
BUT LATER ON, I
SAW ALSO PETER

01:04:50.867 --> 01:04:52.967
THAT'S BEEN MY ONE
OF MY NEWEST STUDIES.

01:04:53.067 --> 01:04:55.266
I STUDIED THE LIFE OF PETER
BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE

01:04:55.366 --> 01:04:57.134
LIKE JOHN SINCE MY
BAPTISM OF LOVE,

01:04:57.234 --> 01:04:59.166
AND I'VE STUDIED JOHN AND
LOVED JOHN AND EVERYTHING

01:04:59.266 --> 01:05:00.366
ABOUT JOHN.


01:05:00.466 --> 01:05:03.633
BUT THEN GOD BROUGHT UP
PETER TO ME AND I SAID,

01:05:03.733 --> 01:05:05.600
LEIF, WHO ARE THE ONE THAT
YOU'RE THE MOST LIKE?

01:05:05.700 --> 01:05:08.500
I'D SAY, PETER, BUT I
WANT TO BE LIKE JOHN

01:05:08.600 --> 01:05:09.333
IN A SENSE.


01:05:09.433 --> 01:05:10.100
BUT THEN HE SHOWED ME
SOMETHING

01:05:10.200 --> 01:05:11.967
WITH PETER'S JOURNEY ALSO.


01:05:12.067 --> 01:05:12.967
REBECCA: WHAT WAS THAT?


01:05:13.067 --> 01:05:14.034
LEIF: PETER STARTED, FIRST,


01:05:14.134 --> 01:05:16.467
HE HAD A BETRAYAL OF
JESUS, BUT HE WAS RADICAL

01:05:16.567 --> 01:05:17.934
IN ONE MOMENT AND ONE.


01:05:18.034 --> 01:05:19.233
BUT HE WAS NOT
THERE ON FRIDAY.

01:05:19.333 --> 01:05:20.733
HE WAS NOT
THERE ON SUNDAY.

01:05:20.833 --> 01:05:22.033
HE WAS NOT THERE AT
THE RESURRECTION.

01:05:22.133 --> 01:05:25.100
LATER ON, JESUS APPEARED
TWO TIMES AND ONE THE

01:05:25.200 --> 01:05:26.866
FIRST APPEARANCE WHEN
HE SHOWED HIMSELF

01:05:26.966 --> 01:05:27.767
TO THE TWO WOMEN.


01:05:27.867 --> 01:05:29.833
HE SAID, TELL AND
ESPECIALLY PETER,

01:05:29.933 --> 01:05:32.066
THE BOOK OF MARK
SAYS, HE STILL,

01:05:32.166 --> 01:05:33.267
STILL HAD PETER
ON HIS MIND,

01:05:33.367 --> 01:05:36.800
BECAUSE PETER STILL NOW
WITH NOT LOVING PETER,

01:05:36.900 --> 01:05:38.400
HE CALLED HIM PETER,
BUT HE WENT BACK TO THE

01:05:38.500 --> 01:05:43.000
ASSIGNMENT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN, UNTIL IN JOHN 21.

01:05:43.100 --> 01:05:45.900
THAT'S AFTER ANOTHER THREE
APPEARANCES OF JESUS, SEEN

01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:47.566
SIGNS, WONDERS, AND MIRACLES.


01:05:47.666 --> 01:05:49.267
BUT THEN EVENTUALLY
JESUS CAME.

01:05:49.367 --> 01:05:51.534
SIMON, DO YOU LOVE ME?


01:05:51.634 --> 01:05:53.200
REBECCA: I'VE NEVER FULLY
UNDERSTOOD THAT STORY.

01:05:53.300 --> 01:05:55.667
SO IF YOU WANT TO
EXPLAIN THAT TO ME,

01:05:55.767 --> 01:05:56.967
THAT'S ALWAYS CONFUSED ME.


01:05:57.067 --> 01:05:58.000
LEIF: NO, SO HERE WE ARE.


01:05:58.100 --> 01:05:58.966
BECAUSE WHAT WAS --


01:05:59.066 --> 01:06:00.133
REBECCA: BECAUSE HE SAID
IT THREE TIMES.

01:06:00.233 --> 01:06:01.134
LEIF THREE: TIMES, YEAH.


01:06:01.234 --> 01:06:02.633
FIRST, IF YOU SEE THE
ROOT RIGHT BEFORE.

01:06:02.733 --> 01:06:03.700
IN JOHN 21,


01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:05.534
I THINK IT'S VERSE 9,
YOU WILL SEE.

01:06:05.634 --> 01:06:06.733
THERE IT SAYS


01:06:06.833 --> 01:06:08.133
THEY ARE OUT FISHING.


01:06:08.233 --> 01:06:09.233
WHY?


01:06:09.333 --> 01:06:10.367
FIRST OF ALL, WHY WOULD
YOU GO BACK TO FISHING

01:06:10.467 --> 01:06:12.533
AGAIN OR DURING COVID YOU
GO BACK AND TRY TO FIND

01:06:12.633 --> 01:06:14.766
SOMETHING OF THE WORLD
THAT YOU STILL WANTS TO.

01:06:14.866 --> 01:06:15.734
REBECCA: IT'S LIKE GOING
BACK TO HIS OLD LIFE.

01:06:15.834 --> 01:06:16.467
LEIF: HIS OLD LIFE.


01:06:16.567 --> 01:06:17.600
WHAT YOU HAD GIVEN
UP THAT,

01:06:17.700 --> 01:06:18.667
NOT TO HAVE JESUS
AS SAVIOR,

01:06:18.767 --> 01:06:20.400
BUT LORD, YOU GAVE
UP EVERYTHING FOR THE

01:06:20.500 --> 01:06:23.167
LORDSHIP AND STILL
YOU DID THAT.

01:06:23.267 --> 01:06:24.767
AFTER ALL THE MIRACLES,
AFTER EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SEEN,

01:06:24.867 --> 01:06:26.800
WHY WOULD
YOU STILL DO THAT, PETER?

01:06:26.900 --> 01:06:29.033
THEN BY THE VERSE,
WHEN WE KNOW THE STORY

01:06:29.133 --> 01:06:31.267
THAT THEY'RE DISAPPOINTED,
FISH ALL NIGHT,

01:06:31.367 --> 01:06:32.367
CAN'T GET IT.


01:06:32.467 --> 01:06:33.667
THIS DOESN'T FUNCTION, TO
GO BACK TO MY OLD WAYS

01:06:33.767 --> 01:06:35.367
DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE
THERE'S A CALLING

01:06:35.467 --> 01:06:36.333
OVER MY LIFE.


01:06:36.433 --> 01:06:37.033
THEN THEY'RE COMING IN,


01:06:37.133 --> 01:06:38.000
HEY, GUYS.


01:06:38.100 --> 01:06:40.167
HEY, BOYS, DID
YOU GET ANY FISH?

01:06:40.267 --> 01:06:41.300
NO.


01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:42.833
WHY DON'T YOU THROW
IT ON THE OTHER SIDE?

01:06:42.933 --> 01:06:44.634
WHEN WAS THE LAST
TIME THAT HAPPENED?

01:06:44.734 --> 01:06:45.734
WHAT IS JESUS DOING?


01:06:45.834 --> 01:06:48.767
IS HEALING THE FIRST LOVE
AND THE FIRST CALLING.

01:06:48.867 --> 01:06:51.333
WE KNOW THE STORY
WHEN JOHN, PETER.

01:06:51.433 --> 01:06:53.800
NOBODY CAN RECOGNIZE, THIS
IS THE GLORIFIED JESUS

01:06:53.900 --> 01:06:56.634
STANDING ON THE SHORE
AFTER THE RESURRECTION.

01:06:56.734 --> 01:06:57.467
AND THEN THEY
ARE SEEING HIM,

01:06:57.567 --> 01:06:58.600
IT'S LIKE,


01:06:58.700 --> 01:07:00.467
AND JOHN SAYS,
IT IS THE LORD.

01:07:00.567 --> 01:07:03.233
PETER PUTS ON HIS CLOAK,
JUMPS IN THE WATER AND SWIMS.

01:07:03.333 --> 01:07:04.700
I DON'T KNOW IF HE THINKS
HE'S GOING TO WALK ON

01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:06.167
WATER AGAIN, BUT HE
JUMPS IN THE WATER,

01:07:06.267 --> 01:07:07.533
AND HE COMES TO THE SHORE.


01:07:07.633 --> 01:07:09.566
THERE'S A FIRE,
CALLED A FIRE THERE.

01:07:09.666 --> 01:07:11.667
THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT
BECAUSE WHEN WAS THE LAST

01:07:11.767 --> 01:07:13.800
TIME THEY CALLED A FIRE?


01:07:13.900 --> 01:07:17.266
THAT'S WHEN HE DENIED
HIM THREE TIMES.

01:07:17.366 --> 01:07:19.000
AND NOW THERE'S
A CALLED OUT FIRE AGAIN.

01:07:19.100 --> 01:07:20.100
BOOM.


01:07:20.200 --> 01:07:21.600
SO WHEN HE SEES THAT CALL
OF FIRE AND THE FISH,

01:07:21.700 --> 01:07:24.700
HE JUST BREAKS DOWN AND HE
COMES IN AND JESUS SAID,

01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:25.800
HEY, GIVE ME
SOME MORE FISH.

01:07:25.900 --> 01:07:27.734
THEY'RE SITTING DOWN AND
THAT'S WHEN JESUS SAID,

01:07:27.834 --> 01:07:30.167
SIMON, LET'S HAVE A
LITTLE CONVERSATION HERE.

01:07:30.267 --> 01:07:30.967
DO YOU LOVE ME?


01:07:31.067 --> 01:07:31.900
BUT DO YOU
REMEMBER YOU SAID,

01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:32.700
I'M GOING TO LOVE
YOU MORE THAN THESE,

01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:34.067
EVEN IF EVERYBODY
ELSE LEAVE.

01:07:34.167 --> 01:07:36.233
AND WE LIVE IN A CULTURE
RIGHT NOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE

01:07:36.333 --> 01:07:38.200
WRESTLING WITH,
HERE'S THE POLITICAL,

01:07:38.300 --> 01:07:39.400
I WILL NEVER DO THIS.


01:07:39.500 --> 01:07:42.133
AND THEN YOU SEE THE WHOLE
CHAOS THAT'S HAPPENING

01:07:42.233 --> 01:07:43.467
AND THE WAY WE RESPOND,


01:07:43.567 --> 01:07:44.933
THAT'S WHAT WAS
HAPPENING WITH THEM.

01:07:45.033 --> 01:07:47.400
SO THAT DAY, PETER DID THE
VERY THING HE WILL NEVER

01:07:47.500 --> 01:07:48.866
WANTED TO HAVE DONE.


01:07:48.966 --> 01:07:52.500
HE DENIED JESUS
THREE TIMES.

01:07:52.600 --> 01:07:53.867
THREE TIMES HE
FELL ASLEEP.

01:07:53.967 --> 01:07:56.800
WHEN JESUS SAYS, BE WITH ME
RIGHT BEFORE GETHSEMANE.

01:07:56.900 --> 01:07:57.967
HE WAS NOT THERE ON
FRIDAY.

01:07:58.067 --> 01:08:00.267
FEAR, SHAME AND
GUILT HAS COME IN.

01:08:00.367 --> 01:08:02.400
IT'S NOT HOW MUCH
JESUS LOVED HIM,

01:08:02.500 --> 01:08:04.867
BUT SOMETHING WAS MISSING
IN PETER AND HE WAS NOT

01:08:04.967 --> 01:08:06.733
READY FOR PENTECOST YET.


01:08:06.833 --> 01:08:08.667
AND THEN HE COMES IN
WITH JESUS, SAYS, SIMON,

01:08:08.767 --> 01:08:10.434
LET ME JUST TALK TO YOU.


01:08:10.534 --> 01:08:11.867
DO YOU LOVE ME?


01:08:11.967 --> 01:08:13.234
WHY THREE TIMES?


01:08:13.334 --> 01:08:14.633
HOW MANY TIMES
DID HE DENY HIM?

01:08:14.733 --> 01:08:15.534
THREE TIMES.


01:08:15.634 --> 01:08:16.566
HOW MANY TIMES DID
HE FALL ASLEEP?

01:08:16.666 --> 01:08:17.367
THREE TIMES.


01:08:17.467 --> 01:08:18.300
WHAT DOES JESUS SAY?


01:08:18.400 --> 01:08:19.334
DO YOU LOVE ME?


01:08:19.434 --> 01:08:20.100
DO YOU LOVE ME
MORE THAN THESE?

01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:20.700
FEED MY LAMBS.


01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:21.833
FEED MY SHEEP.


01:08:21.933 --> 01:08:23.600
AND THEN HE SAYS, LET ME
TELL YOU ABOUT YOU, PETER.

01:08:23.700 --> 01:08:25.767
AND HE PROPHESIED THE
VERSES AFTERWARDS.

01:08:25.867 --> 01:08:27.066
I SAW YOU WHEN
YOU WERE YOUNGER.

01:08:27.166 --> 01:08:28.300
YOU COULD GO
WHEREVER YOU WANTED,

01:08:28.400 --> 01:08:30.800
BUT AS AN OLD YOU REACH
OUT YOUR HAND AND YOU DIED.

01:08:30.900 --> 01:08:33.300
LET ME SHOW YOU HOW YOU'RE
GOING TO DIE FOR ME.

01:08:33.400 --> 01:08:34.400
WHAT IS JESUS SAYING?


01:08:34.500 --> 01:08:35.400
FROM THE FIRST
TIME I SAW YOU,

01:08:35.500 --> 01:08:36.800
THIS IS WHAT I
BELIEVED IN YOU.

01:08:36.900 --> 01:08:40.367
BUT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOU
THE WAY I BELIEVE IN YOU.

01:08:40.467 --> 01:08:42.067
YOU DON'T LOVE YOU,
THE WAY I LOVE YOU.

01:08:42.167 --> 01:08:43.900
AND UNTIL THAT
LOVE COMES HERE,

01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.133
LET ME HEAL
WHAT IS BROKEN.

01:08:46.233 --> 01:08:47.700
AND HE TAKES HIM BACK
TO THE WORST MOMENT

01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:49.367
OF HIS LIFE, HEALS THAT.


01:08:49.467 --> 01:08:51.133
HE HEALS.


01:08:51.233 --> 01:08:53.034
PUT IN THREE DENIES
WITH THREE LOVES,

01:08:53.134 --> 01:08:54.000
AND SOMETHING IN THE


01:08:54.100 --> 01:08:55.967
ROOT ISSUE OF PETER
FROM THAT MOMENT,

01:08:56.067 --> 01:08:57.567
HE'S NO LONGER SIMON,
HE'S PETER.

01:08:57.667 --> 01:09:00.300
HE IS A ROCK UPON
THIS UNSHAKABLE.

01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:01.700
JESUS GAVE HIM THE
NAME BEFORE

01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:02.900
AND SOME OF US HAVE
HAD A NAME,

01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:04.866
BUT YOU HAVE NOT YET
BECOME WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE

01:09:04.966 --> 01:09:07.267
YOU DON'T LOVE YOU THE
WAY THAT HE LOVES YOU.

01:09:07.367 --> 01:09:08.900
AND IT WAS NEVER A
QUESTION HOW MUCH JESUS

01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:12.900
LOVED SIMON PETER, BUT HE
DID NOT LOVE HIMSELF,

01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.533
THE WAY THAT JESUS LOVED
HIM UNTIL THAT MOMENT,

01:09:15.633 --> 01:09:19.166
THE THIRD TIME THAT HEALED,
THE SECOND FIRE WAS

01:09:19.266 --> 01:09:20.533
NOT TO POINT
WITH THE FINGER

01:09:20.633 --> 01:09:23.800
WHAT YOU DID WRONG, BUT IT
WAS JUST TO TAKE HIM BACK

01:09:23.900 --> 01:09:26.500
TO THE MOMENT OF THE WORST
MOMENT IN YOUR LIFE AND

01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:28.200
LET JESUS HEAL
THAT MOMENT.

01:09:28.300 --> 01:09:30.067
SO YOU COULD SET THEM UP
FOR A FIRE THAT MAKES YOU

01:09:30.167 --> 01:09:32.200
BURN BRIGHTLY
WITHOUT BURNING OUT,

01:09:32.300 --> 01:09:33.233
WHERE YOU'RE COURAGEOUS.


01:09:33.333 --> 01:09:36.200
YOU'RE BOLD BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT LOVE DOES.

01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:37.834
REBECCA: AND WHAT'S SO
INTERESTING IS I REMEMBER

01:09:37.934 --> 01:09:39.467
WHEN I WAS TALKING
TO JASON SOBEL,

01:09:39.567 --> 01:09:42.767
HE TALKED ABOUT
HOW THROUGH SIN,

01:09:42.867 --> 01:09:44.533
ALL THESE RELATIONSHIPS
WERE BROKEN.

01:09:44.633 --> 01:09:46.966
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,
OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE

01:09:47.066 --> 01:09:49.467
ANOTHER AND OUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH OURSELVES.

01:09:49.567 --> 01:09:55.734
AND SO GOD RESTORED YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH YOURSELF.

01:09:55.834 --> 01:09:58.634
AND HE USED THIS STUDY OF
PETER TO SHOW YOU THAT HE

01:09:58.734 --> 01:10:01.233
HAD ALSO RESTORED PETER'S
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIMSELF

01:10:01.333 --> 01:10:03.567
AND TO LOVE YOURSELF
THE WAY GOD LOVES YOU.

01:10:03.667 --> 01:10:05.633
AND THERE'S SUCH AN
EPIDEMIC IN SOCIETY WHERE

01:10:05.733 --> 01:10:09.000
IT'S TRYING TO GIVE A
SECULAR ANSWER OF TRYING

01:10:09.100 --> 01:10:10.333
TO LOVE YOURSELF
AND PEOPLE.

01:10:10.433 --> 01:10:11.634
IT'S A HUGE ANTHEM NOW.


01:10:11.734 --> 01:10:13.166
LOVE YOURSELF,
LOVE YOURSELF.

01:10:13.266 --> 01:10:15.033
BUT I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW,
WHEN I HEAR THAT I'M LIKE,

01:10:15.133 --> 01:10:16.600
THIS IS SILLY IN
YOUR OWN STRENGTH,

01:10:16.700 --> 01:10:19.767
YOU CAN'T LOVE YOURSELF
OR IT'S GOING TO BE NOT

01:10:19.867 --> 01:10:22.300
FRUITFUL OR IT'S GOING TO
BECOME NARCISSISTIC WHERE

01:10:22.400 --> 01:10:23.867
IT BECOMES SELFISH.


01:10:23.967 --> 01:10:25.200
LEIF: THE IMPORTANT
THING IS, FIRST,

01:10:25.300 --> 01:10:26.867
YOU LOVE YOURSELF
AS HE HAS LOVED YOU.

01:10:26.967 --> 01:10:27.967
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:10:28.067 --> 01:10:30.634
LEIF: WASHING YOUR FEET
OF A JUDAS IN YOUR LIFE,

01:10:30.734 --> 01:10:31.833
AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.


01:10:31.933 --> 01:10:34.300
JOHN 13, VERSE 34 TO 35.


01:10:34.400 --> 01:10:35.633
YOU'RE GOING TO
LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

01:10:35.733 --> 01:10:37.600
IT SAYS NOT LOVING
OR LOVING YOURSELF,

01:10:37.700 --> 01:10:39.433
BUT AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.


01:10:39.533 --> 01:10:40.967
SO ALLOWING FIRST
OF ALL,

01:10:41.067 --> 01:10:44.333
AS HE IS LOVING US, THEN
BECOMING THAT LOVE.

01:10:44.433 --> 01:10:47.000
AND THAT'S THE HEALTHY,
THE SHALOM OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

01:10:47.100 --> 01:10:48.800
AND THEN FROM THAT PLACE,
NOW YOU CAN GIVE THIS

01:10:48.900 --> 01:10:51.800
LOVE, RECEIVE IT, THEN
YOU CAN BECOME IT,

01:10:51.900 --> 01:10:53.967
AND THEN YOU CAN
GIVE IT TO THE WORLD.

01:10:54.067 --> 01:10:56.000
SO THAT FLOWS AND IT
CONTINUES TO RECEIVE MORE,

01:10:56.100 --> 01:10:57.266
BECOME MORE, RELEASE MORE.


01:10:57.366 --> 01:10:59.267
AND YOU'RE COMING INTO
THIS BEAUTIFUL RIVER.

01:10:59.367 --> 01:11:01.867
WHEREVER THE RIVER GOES,
THERE IS LIFE.

01:11:01.967 --> 01:11:03.800
SO THIS IS THE BEAUTIFUL
PART OF THIS JOURNEY OF

01:11:03.900 --> 01:11:06.434
TRANSFORMATION THAT
IS BRINGING US INTO.

01:11:06.534 --> 01:11:08.533
REBECCA: SO WHEN YOU WERE IN
THAT PLACE,

01:11:08.633 --> 01:11:09.866
YOU SAID SEVEN
YEARS LATER,

01:11:09.966 --> 01:11:11.800
YOU SAID YOU GOT INTO
LIKE A -- DID YOU SAY

01:11:11.900 --> 01:11:12.733
A TREATMENT CENTER?


01:11:12.833 --> 01:11:14.000
LEIF: YEAH.


01:11:14.100 --> 01:11:15.200
REBECCA: AND SO IT KIND OF SEEMS
LIKE YOU'VE HAD MOMENTS IN

01:11:15.300 --> 01:11:17.600
YOUR LIFE WHERE YOU -- GOD
HAD TO KIND OF STOP YOU

01:11:17.700 --> 01:11:19.866
AND THEN DEAL WITH
WHAT WAS GOING ON.

01:11:19.966 --> 01:11:22.000
AND SO YOU WERE
LOVING THE WORLD,

01:11:22.100 --> 01:11:23.400
BUT YOU REALLY
DIDN'T LOVE YOURSELF.

01:11:23.500 --> 01:11:25.933
SO WHAT DID -- HOW DID THAT
KIND OF -- WHAT DID THAT

01:11:26.033 --> 01:11:27.500
CONVERSATION WITH
GOD LOOK LIKE?

01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:28.800
DID HE JUST KIND
OF TELL YOU?

01:11:28.900 --> 01:11:29.966
LEIF: YEAH, I THINK
IT WAS, AGAIN,

01:11:30.066 --> 01:11:31.333
A LOT OF MINE HAS
BEEN PROCESSED.

01:11:31.433 --> 01:11:31.967
REBECCA: IT'S A PROCESS.


01:11:32.067 --> 01:11:32.467
LEIF: YEAH, BECAUSE --


01:11:32.567 --> 01:11:33.266
REBECCA: SAME.


01:11:33.366 --> 01:11:34.134
LEIF: YEAH, SO THE PROCESS --


01:11:34.234 --> 01:11:34.667
REBECCA: SO BE ENCOURAGED.


01:11:34.767 --> 01:11:35.633
IT'S A PROCESS.


01:11:35.733 --> 01:11:36.767
LEIF: AND I'M
STILL IN THE PROCESS.

01:11:36.867 --> 01:11:37.833
REBECCA: SAME.


01:11:37.933 --> 01:11:40.333
LEIF: I HAVE THIS ORPHAN
TENDENCY THAT POPS UP

01:11:40.433 --> 01:11:41.367
ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY.


01:11:41.467 --> 01:11:42.800
AND IT'S LIKE, OH,
I DID IT AGAIN.

01:11:42.900 --> 01:11:45.300
THAT'S ORPHAN OR SOMETIMES
YOU WOULD LIKE TO LIVE BY

01:11:45.400 --> 01:11:48.800
HINTS INSTEAD OF FAITH OR
THINGS POPS IN AND BUT AT

01:11:48.900 --> 01:11:49.700
LEAST NOW YOU'RE AWARE,


01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:51.300
YOU HAVE A SELF-AWARENESS.


01:11:51.400 --> 01:11:52.400
THAT'S NOT WHO I AM.


01:11:52.500 --> 01:11:54.300
THAT WAS THE OLD SIMON,
BUT NOT THE PETER

01:11:54.400 --> 01:11:55.700
OR THAT'S THE --


01:11:55.800 --> 01:11:57.700
SO I THINK THAT WHAT
HAPPENED AND WAS LIKE I

01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.166
WAS GOING ALL OVER THE
WORLD AND CRISIS MOMENTS.

01:12:00.266 --> 01:12:03.000
AND HEY, HONEY, I
KNOW, I LOVE YOU, TOO.

01:12:03.100 --> 01:12:05.400
AND MY WIFE GOT
THE LEFTOVER.

01:12:05.500 --> 01:12:08.733
JESUS GOT A LEFTOVER
BECAUSE I LOVED.

01:12:08.833 --> 01:12:10.966
BECAUSE NOW THE DEMAND
OF THIS LOVE MESSAGE.

01:12:11.066 --> 01:12:12.833
AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT,
I'M ON THESE PLATFORMS.

01:12:12.933 --> 01:12:14.400
DOORS OPEN, FAVOR IS OPENED


01:12:14.500 --> 01:12:15.700
EVERYWHERE AND YOU GET
PULLED EVERYWHERE,

01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:17.500
YOU GET ALL THESE
INVITATIONS.

01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:19.467
AND BEFORE, YOU'RE
FORGETTING ABOUT COMING

01:12:19.567 --> 01:12:21.666
INTO THE SECRET PLACE
BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT

01:12:21.766 --> 01:12:25.300
THE SECRET BOOK, OR THEY
WANT TO SEEK A PODCAST

01:12:25.400 --> 01:12:26.400
OR THEY WANT --


01:12:26.500 --> 01:12:28.766
SO YOU SUDDENLY NOW,
JESUS GETS THE LEFTOVER IN

01:12:28.866 --> 01:12:32.000
THE HOTEL ROOM LATE AT NIGHT
TO RECEIVE THIS LOVE.

01:12:32.100 --> 01:12:34.400
AND THE SAME IS ALSO YOU
DO NOT TAKE CARE OF DOING

01:12:34.500 --> 01:12:36.600
THE EXERCISES OR DOING
THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF

01:12:36.700 --> 01:12:39.167
YOURSELF, BECAUSE THE
DEMAND WAS SO MUCH.

01:12:39.267 --> 01:12:42.134
SO, THE SUBTLETY OF THAT
IS JUST THAT YOU --

01:12:42.234 --> 01:12:44.167
TO SOME DEGREE LEAVE
YOUR FIRST LOVE,

01:12:44.267 --> 01:12:45.367
THEN YOU HAVE TO
GO BACK AGAIN.

01:12:45.467 --> 01:12:46.934
THAT'S KIND OF IN THE
BOOK OF EPHESIANS.

01:12:47.034 --> 01:12:48.867
GET BACK TO WHAT YOU
HAD BEFORE YOU FELL.

01:12:48.967 --> 01:12:50.400
REBECCA: YEAH, IT'S IN THE
BOOK OF REVELATION, TOO.

01:12:50.500 --> 01:12:51.433
LEIF: IT IS THERE.


01:12:51.533 --> 01:12:52.033
REBECCA: IT'S IN THE
MESSAGE TO THE CHURCHES.

01:12:52.133 --> 01:12:52.967
SO IT CAN HAPPEN.


01:12:53.067 --> 01:12:54.167
LEIF: IT CAN HAPPEN.


01:12:54.267 --> 01:12:56.334
REBECCA: AND YOU WHO ARE LIVING,
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY,

01:12:56.434 --> 01:12:58.167
THAT'S WHY A RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD IS SO IMPORTANT,

01:12:58.267 --> 01:13:00.367
BECAUSE HE AND HIS LOVE
CALLS YOU BACK TO THE WAY

01:13:00.467 --> 01:13:03.067
INTO ALIGNMENT,
WHICH IS, YOU KNOW,

01:13:03.167 --> 01:13:06.734
HAVING -- GOING TO THE
SECRET PLACE FIRST.

01:13:06.834 --> 01:13:08.233
AND THAT'S WHY
JESUS' LIFE IS

01:13:08.333 --> 01:13:10.566
SO GREAT TO LEARN FROM
HIS LIFE AND MINISTRY IS

01:13:10.666 --> 01:13:13.434
BECAUSE HE ALWAYS MADE SURE,
THE DEMAND ON HIM WAS

01:13:13.534 --> 01:13:15.366
SO GREAT, AND HE
WOULD HAVE TO, LIKE,

01:13:15.466 --> 01:13:17.367
SNEAK AWAY FROM
THE CROWDS.

01:13:17.467 --> 01:13:19.766
BUT I TOTALLY GET
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

01:13:19.866 --> 01:13:21.633
AND IT'S -- IT WAS
UNINTENTIONAL,

01:13:21.733 --> 01:13:24.133
BUT I THINK YOU CAN
BE DOING MINISTRY,

01:13:24.233 --> 01:13:25.600
AND MINISTRY IS GREAT.


01:13:25.700 --> 01:13:28.300
AND LIKE COMPLETELY LACK
IN YOUR OWN INTIMACY WITH

01:13:28.400 --> 01:13:30.200
GOD AND YOUR OWN
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

01:13:30.300 --> 01:13:31.866
AND LIKE YOU SAID, PEOPLE
COULD BE GETTING THE

01:13:31.966 --> 01:13:33.566
LEFTOVER IN YOUR LIFE
AND YOU DON'T MEAN TO

01:13:33.666 --> 01:13:34.667
BECAUSE YOU'RE
JUST TRYING.

01:13:34.767 --> 01:13:35.767
THERE'S SUCH A HUGE --


01:13:35.867 --> 01:13:36.700
LEIF: DEMAND, YEAH.


01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:38.200
REBECCA: BIG AND
HURTING, BROKEN WORLD.

01:13:38.300 --> 01:13:40.234
BUT I THINK, DO YOU FEEL
LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS

01:13:40.334 --> 01:13:41.734
THAT GOD HAD TO
TELL YOU WAS, HEY,

01:13:41.834 --> 01:13:43.367
I'M THE SAVIOR
OF THE WORLD,

01:13:43.467 --> 01:13:44.500
AND I DON'T NEED YOU
TO BE GOING OUT

01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:45.867
AND DOING EVERYTHING.


01:13:45.967 --> 01:13:47.933
LEIF: YEAH, I THINK THAT THE
DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THE

01:13:48.033 --> 01:13:50.600
MOTIVATION WAS MAYBE
DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE.

01:13:50.700 --> 01:13:51.767
BEFORE I WAS DOING
THIS FOR HIM,

01:13:51.867 --> 01:13:52.767
NOW FROM HIM.


01:13:52.867 --> 01:13:54.500
BUT I THINK THAT
INCLUDING NOW,

01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:57.734
IF I -- MOST OF MY SPIRITUAL
SONS AND DAUGHTERS,

01:13:57.834 --> 01:13:59.600
I HAVE THE HONOR
IN 22 COUNTRIES,

01:13:59.700 --> 01:14:02.200
RAISED UP A BEAUTIFUL,
HEALTHY FAMILY ALL OVER,

01:14:02.300 --> 01:14:04.566
INCLUDING ONE ARRIVES
RIGHT NOW IN ATLANTA,

01:14:04.666 --> 01:14:05.733
IS GOING TO BE WITH
ME FOR FOUR MONTHS

01:14:05.833 --> 01:14:07.000
FROM THE PHILIPPINES.


01:14:07.100 --> 01:14:07.667
REBECCA: SO COOL.


01:14:07.767 --> 01:14:09.134
LEIF: THEY ARE HEALTHY.


01:14:09.234 --> 01:14:10.600
SO THERE'S SOME OF
THE SCARS I HAVE,

01:14:10.700 --> 01:14:11.433
THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE.


01:14:11.533 --> 01:14:13.033
I HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE.


01:14:13.133 --> 01:14:15.334
THAT'S WHAT MY HEART IS
SHARING MY STORIES THAT

01:14:15.434 --> 01:14:18.366
LET IT BE A GENERATION
THAT CAN LOVE JESUS WELL,

01:14:18.466 --> 01:14:19.733
LOVE THEMSELVES,
LOVE THEIR SPOUSE,

01:14:19.833 --> 01:14:21.433
LOVE THEIR CHILDREN, AND
STILL MAKE A KINGDOM

01:14:21.533 --> 01:14:22.767
IMPACT AROUND THE WORLD.


01:14:22.867 --> 01:14:24.566
I CAN SEE IT NOW HOW
THAT CAN HAPPEN.

01:14:24.666 --> 01:14:28.900
I JUST DIDN'T -- THERE WAS
NOT MUCH REVELATION OF AT

01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:30.700
THAT TIME, BUT HOW
THAT COULD HAPPEN.

01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:32.833
BECAUSE AS I WAS SAYING, I
WAS GOING INTO SOME OTHER

01:14:32.933 --> 01:14:35.200
PLACES NOBODY ELSE COULD
GO INTO WITH THE GOSPEL,

01:14:35.300 --> 01:14:36.900
AND I HAD SUCH A
STRONG CALLING.

01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.566
BUT WHAT IT DID WAS THAT
IT STARTED TO PULL ME MORE

01:14:39.666 --> 01:14:40.666
AND MORE AND MORE.


01:14:40.766 --> 01:14:42.133
THE PAIN LEVEL
WAS GREATER.

01:14:42.233 --> 01:14:43.767
I HAD TO TAKE MORE
AND MORE MEDICINE,

01:14:43.867 --> 01:14:44.667
AND IT JUST STARTED --


01:14:44.767 --> 01:14:45.300
REBECCA: YOU WERE
HURTING YOUR BODY.

01:14:45.400 --> 01:14:46.400
LEIF: HURTING MY BODY.


01:14:46.500 --> 01:14:47.100
REBECCA: BECAUSE YOU WERE
RUNNING YOURSELF RAGGED.

01:14:47.200 --> 01:14:47.966
LEIF: THAT'S RIGHT, YEAH.


01:14:48.066 --> 01:14:48.900
SO I HAD --


01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:49.567
REBECCA: BUT YOU HAD A
GOOD MOTIVATION.

01:14:49.667 --> 01:14:50.067
LEIF: I HAD A MOTIVATION.


01:14:50.167 --> 01:14:50.967
BUT I JUST --


01:14:51.067 --> 01:14:51.900
REBECCA: SO WHAT DID
GOD TELL YOU?

01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:52.466
WAS HE JUST LIKE,
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO

01:14:52.566 --> 01:14:53.433
EVERYTHING, LEIF.


01:14:53.533 --> 01:14:55.434
LIKE YOU CAN CALM --
LIKE YOU CAN --

01:14:55.534 --> 01:14:57.433
DID HE JUST TELL YOU, LIKE
IT'S OKAY TO TAKE A BREAK?

01:14:57.533 --> 01:14:59.100
LEIF: YEAH, I MEAN, AND
THE BIGGEST DECEPTION,

01:14:59.200 --> 01:15:01.067
REBECCA, WAS
THE ANOINTING

01:15:01.167 --> 01:15:02.134
WAS AT THE GREATEST


01:15:02.234 --> 01:15:04.233
AT MY DYSFUNCTION,
THAT WAS THE HIGHEST.

01:15:04.333 --> 01:15:05.500
THAT WAS THE DECEPTION.


01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:07.300
AND DECEPTION IS
VERY DECEIVING.

01:15:07.400 --> 01:15:08.834
REBECCA: OH, OH,
IT'S THE WORST.

01:15:08.934 --> 01:15:11.266
LEIF: SO THE THING EVEN
MY WIFE, AT TIMES,

01:15:11.366 --> 01:15:12.934
SHE WARNED, YOU NEED
TO TAKE A SABBATH.

01:15:13.034 --> 01:15:14.667
YOU NEED TO REST AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.

01:15:14.767 --> 01:15:15.833
BUT SOME DEGREE,


01:15:15.933 --> 01:15:17.867
I MEAN, WE SAW THE MOST
MIRACLES DURING MY BIGGEST

01:15:17.967 --> 01:15:19.800
DYSFUNCTION AT
THAT TIME PERIOD.

01:15:19.900 --> 01:15:21.866
SO I STILL REMEMBER I
STOOD IN DAR ES SALAAM,

01:15:21.966 --> 01:15:22.666
IN MY SHADOW


01:15:22.766 --> 01:15:24.067
WAS THIS CRIPPLED
MUSLIM BEHIND

01:15:24.167 --> 01:15:25.600
AND HER LIMBS WERE
STRAIGHTENED OUT.

01:15:25.700 --> 01:15:26.967
REBECCA: OH MY GOSH, SO
YOU WERE THINKING I GOT

01:15:27.067 --> 01:15:27.800
TO KEEP GOING.


01:15:27.900 --> 01:15:29.167
LEIF: YEAH, BUT SO
IT'S LIKE --

01:15:29.267 --> 01:15:30.833
REBECCA: BUT GOD
LIFTED HIS PRESENCE.

01:15:30.933 --> 01:15:34.500
LEIF: AND THEN I CAME HOME
AND THE PRESENCE LIFTED.

01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:35.366
BOOM.


01:15:35.466 --> 01:15:36.333
REBECCA: AND YOU WERE
LIKE WHAT?

01:15:36.433 --> 01:15:37.367
LEIF: AND I HAVE ALL THIS
PAIN IN MY BODY.

01:15:37.467 --> 01:15:38.833
I HAVE ALL THIS, BUT
THERE'S NO ANOINTING.

01:15:38.933 --> 01:15:42.033
AND THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS
PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY,

01:15:42.133 --> 01:15:44.233
SPIRITUALLY, AGAIN,
I WENT THROUGH.

01:15:44.333 --> 01:15:45.300
SO IT WAS FIVE MONTHS.


01:15:45.400 --> 01:15:47.167
BUT THE BIGGEST THING
IS THERE WAS NO DOVE,

01:15:47.267 --> 01:15:48.500
THERE WAS NO PRESENCE.


01:15:48.600 --> 01:15:50.067
I COULDN'T SEE HIS FACE.


01:15:50.167 --> 01:15:51.100
I COULDN'T HEAR HIS VOICE.


01:15:51.200 --> 01:15:52.500
I COULDN'T FEEL HIS LOVE.


01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:54.966
IT WAS JUST THIS I DON'T
STRUGGLE WITH DEPRESSION.

01:15:55.066 --> 01:15:56.633
I WAS BURNED OUT,
CRASH LANDED,

01:15:56.733 --> 01:15:57.866
BUT WAS SICK PHYSICALLY.


01:15:57.966 --> 01:15:59.267
AND THEN I GOT OFF
ALL THE OPIATES,

01:15:59.367 --> 01:16:00.533
ALL PAIN MEDICATION.


01:16:00.633 --> 01:16:02.867
I'VE BEEN OFF ALL OF THAT
FOR 18 YEARS SINCE THEN.

01:16:02.967 --> 01:16:03.867
REBECCA: THAT'S AMAZING.


01:16:03.967 --> 01:16:05.567
LEIF: THAT WAS
DECEMBER 2ND, YEAH.

01:16:05.667 --> 01:16:07.467
SO THAT STARTED THAT
JOURNEY OF MY LIFE.

01:16:07.567 --> 01:16:09.967
SO BECAUSE AGAIN, TO
KEEP EVERYTHING GOING,

01:16:10.067 --> 01:16:11.400
YOU HAVE TO MEDICATE MORE.


01:16:11.500 --> 01:16:12.733
REBECCA: YOU HAVE TO MEDICATE
BECAUSE YOU'RE IN PAIN.

01:16:12.833 --> 01:16:14.767
LEIF: BECAUSE MY BODY
CAN'T HANDLE IT.

01:16:14.867 --> 01:16:16.234
BUT THEN I CAME HOME, I
DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO

01:16:16.334 --> 01:16:19.467
ANYTHING, SIMILAR
SITUATION AS THE FIRST.

01:16:19.567 --> 01:16:20.633
BUT THIS TIME HE WENT IN.


01:16:20.733 --> 01:16:22.567
LET ME SHOW IT, YOU NEED TO
LEARN HOW TO LOVE YOU,

01:16:22.667 --> 01:16:24.166
THE WAY THAT I LOVE YOU.


01:16:24.266 --> 01:16:25.800
AND THAT'S WHEN JOHN
CAME INTO MY LIFE.

01:16:25.900 --> 01:16:28.333
JOHN LOVED JOHN THE
WAY JESUS LOVED JOHN.

01:16:28.433 --> 01:16:31.067
THE FATHER LOVED JESUS,
BUT JESUS LOVED JESUS,

01:16:31.167 --> 01:16:33.400
THE WAY THE FATHER
LOVED JESUS.

01:16:33.500 --> 01:16:35.700
THAT WAS THE SECRET
OF JESUS' LIFE

01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:36.600
AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.


01:16:36.700 --> 01:16:38.300
THE FATHER LOVED
LUCIFER, BUT LUCIFER

01:16:38.400 --> 01:16:39.400
DIDN'T LOVE LUCIFER.


01:16:39.500 --> 01:16:42.333
THAT'S WHAT LED
TO THE FALL,

01:16:42.433 --> 01:16:44.933
WHERE THE ONE-THIRD
FALLEN ORPHAN SPIRIT.

01:16:45.033 --> 01:16:47.033
SO THE MAJOR PART OF THE
ORPHAN SPIRIT WAS ROOTED

01:16:47.133 --> 01:16:49.567
IN NOT RECEIVING THAT
LOVE OF THE FATHER.

01:16:49.667 --> 01:16:51.467
BECAUSE COVENANT IS
WHEN YOU BECOME ONE

01:16:51.567 --> 01:16:53.100
WITH THAT LOVE, ATONEMENT.


01:16:53.200 --> 01:16:55.833
BUT IT'S ALSO CONNECTED
TO BE, TO BECOMING ONE.

01:16:55.933 --> 01:16:58.100
SO WHEN JESUS WAS SO MUCH
AT ONE WITH THE LOVE OF

01:16:58.200 --> 01:17:01.933
THE FATHER, AND THAT'S
WHERE I WAS MISSING IN MY

01:17:02.033 --> 01:17:04.467
LIFE, I DID NOT
TAKE THE TIME.

01:17:04.567 --> 01:17:05.533
AND I'M STILL STRUGGLING.


01:17:05.633 --> 01:17:06.800
I'M STILL WRESTLING WITH
IT BECAUSE I'M DOING A

01:17:06.900 --> 01:17:07.967
DOCTOR DEGREE RIGHT NOW.


01:17:08.067 --> 01:17:09.200
I'M HERE IN THE PROGRAM.


01:17:09.300 --> 01:17:11.734
I'M JUGGLING, AND SO MUCH
IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE

01:17:11.834 --> 01:17:13.867
WORLD, AND SO MUCH
DOORS IN FAVOR.

01:17:13.967 --> 01:17:16.234
AND HONESTLY, THIS IS ON --
EVEN MY NERVOUSNESS WHEN

01:17:16.334 --> 01:17:18.600
THEY ASKED ME TO COME HERE
BECAUSE I'VE SAID NO TO SO

01:17:18.700 --> 01:17:19.733
MANY THINGS,
BECAUSE AGAIN,

01:17:19.833 --> 01:17:22.067
I DON'T -- I WANT TO ENJOY
MY LITTLE GRANDCHILDREN.

01:17:22.167 --> 01:17:23.100
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:17:23.200 --> 01:17:24.167
LEIF: I WANT TO HAVE
TIME TO BE WITH JESUS.

01:17:24.267 --> 01:17:25.567
AND I WANT JESUS TO
GET THE BEST OUT OF ME.

01:17:25.667 --> 01:17:27.634
NOT WHEN I'M TIRED AFTER
I'M FINISHED IN THE MIDDLE

01:17:27.734 --> 01:17:28.500
OF THE NIGHT.


01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:29.600
REBECCA: THAT'S SUCH
A GOOD WORD.

01:17:29.700 --> 01:17:30.467
LEIF: I WANT, I WANT MY
WIFE TO GET THE BEST.

01:17:30.567 --> 01:17:32.400
I WANT MY CHILDREN.


01:17:32.500 --> 01:17:33.333
THEY GOT THE LEFTOVERS,


01:17:33.433 --> 01:17:35.300
BUT NOW I WANT MY KIDS.


01:17:35.400 --> 01:17:37.833
THEY GET ME WHEN MY
EMOTIONAL TANK IS FULL.

01:17:37.933 --> 01:17:39.134
NOT WHEN I'VE GIVEN TO
EVERYBODY ELSE

01:17:39.234 --> 01:17:40.367
AND THEN COME HOME.


01:17:40.467 --> 01:17:42.466
AND THAT'S THE DANGER,
THE WARNING SIGNS.

01:17:42.566 --> 01:17:44.667
I FEEL EVEN LATELY
I'VE BEEN GOING,

01:17:44.767 --> 01:17:47.333
AND NOW I SEE THIS NEW
WAVE OF FAVOR AND DOORS

01:17:47.433 --> 01:17:48.766
AND EVERYBODY'S PULLING.


01:17:48.866 --> 01:17:51.366
AND BEFORE YOU
KNOW IT, YOU KNOW,

01:17:51.466 --> 01:17:54.433
THESE THINGS CAN PULL YOU
AWAY FROM THE VERY THING

01:17:54.533 --> 01:17:56.367
THAT WAS NEVER INTENDED.


01:17:56.467 --> 01:17:57.900
BUT DECEPTION IS
VERY DECEIVING.

01:17:58.000 --> 01:17:59.734
REBECCA: SO HOW -- WHAT
WOULD YOUR MESSAGE BE

01:17:59.834 --> 01:18:00.800
TO YOUNG MINISTERS?


01:18:00.900 --> 01:18:02.400
BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH
A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE,

01:18:02.500 --> 01:18:05.700
AND I LOVE SEEING YOU GET
TOUCHED BECAUSE IT'S TRUE.

01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:08.200
AND I THINK ONE OF THE
GIFTS THAT I HAD COMING

01:18:08.300 --> 01:18:11.134
FROM MY PARENTS WAS THIS
UNDERSTANDING OF HOW

01:18:11.234 --> 01:18:13.233
IMPORTANT MY MARRIAGE IS,
HOW IMPORTANT MY CHILDREN

01:18:13.333 --> 01:18:16.866
ARE, AND SO I AM MORE HOME
THAN I AM DOING MINISTRY.

01:18:16.966 --> 01:18:18.400
AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT
BECAUSE I'M LIKE,

01:18:18.500 --> 01:18:20.100
MY CHILDREN NEED ME,
AND MY KIDS REALLY,

01:18:20.200 --> 01:18:23.900
REALLY NEED ME BECAUSE
THEY'RE LIKE THREE AND ONE

01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:24.900
OR, WELL, NOW
ASHER'S FOUR,

01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:26.166
BUT WHEN THEY'RE
REALLY LITTLE,

01:18:26.266 --> 01:18:29.767
THAT'S WHEN THEY NEED
YOU THE ABSOLUTE MOST.

01:18:29.867 --> 01:18:31.700
BUT, BUT WHAT WOULD YOUR
MESSAGE BE TO YOUNG

01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:33.033
PREACHERS THAT
FEEL THE CALL

01:18:33.133 --> 01:18:34.934
AND HAVE THE ANOINTING?


01:18:35.034 --> 01:18:37.367
HOW DO YOU -- WHAT WOULD YOUR
MESSAGE BE TO FIND THAT

01:18:37.467 --> 01:18:39.600
BALANCE SO THAT THEY
HAVE GOOD FAMILY LIFE?

01:18:39.700 --> 01:18:41.134
THEY HAVE A GOOD
SECRET AND INTIMACY

01:18:41.234 --> 01:18:42.233
WITH THE LORD.


01:18:42.333 --> 01:18:44.367
BECAUSE MINISTERING FOR
GOD IS NOT THE SAME AS

01:18:44.467 --> 01:18:45.700
HAVING INTIMACY WITH HIM.


01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:46.734
LEIF: NO.


01:18:46.834 --> 01:18:48.533
I THINK THAT ONE OF THE
THINGS IS VERY KEY

01:18:48.633 --> 01:18:51.600
TO THE PRESENCE BECAUSE
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I'M

01:18:51.700 --> 01:18:53.534
WITH YOU, REBECCA, I
HAVE A HUNDRED THINGS GOING

01:18:53.634 --> 01:18:54.300
ON RIGHT NOW.


01:18:54.400 --> 01:18:55.134
I AM WITH YOU.


01:18:55.234 --> 01:18:56.334
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:18:56.434 --> 01:18:58.267
LEIF: AND THIS IS A HOLY THING
BECAUSE YOU DO THINGS AS

01:18:58.367 --> 01:18:59.833
UNTO THE LORD.


01:18:59.933 --> 01:19:02.200
WHEN I'M WITH MY WIFE,
I'M GOING TO BE 100%.

01:19:02.300 --> 01:19:04.567
NOT BEING THE MAN NEXT MEETING
WHERE I'M GOING TO BE.

01:19:04.667 --> 01:19:06.067
WHEN I'M GOING TO BE
WITH OUR GRANDDAUGHTER,

01:19:06.167 --> 01:19:07.967
I'M GOING TO BE THERE.


01:19:08.067 --> 01:19:09.534
THE ONE PERSON YOU
SAW ME IN THE HALLWAY,

01:19:09.634 --> 01:19:10.866
I'M 100% WITH THAT PERSON,


01:19:10.966 --> 01:19:12.200
OR THE LADY SERVING
ME UPSTAIRS,

01:19:12.300 --> 01:19:13.034
I'M GOING TO BE THERE.


01:19:13.134 --> 01:19:14.133
I'M GOING TO LISTEN.


01:19:14.233 --> 01:19:16.100
SO IT'S JUST BEING PRESENT
WITH HIS PRESENCE,

01:19:16.200 --> 01:19:17.333
WHERE YOU'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE.

01:19:17.433 --> 01:19:19.733
THAT'S ONE MAJOR THING,
BECAUSE THE TENDENCY WE

01:19:19.833 --> 01:19:20.967
HAVE IS KIND OF
WE START WITH GOD

01:19:21.067 --> 01:19:22.466
FIRST THEN FAMILY
THEN MINISTRY.

01:19:22.566 --> 01:19:25.366
THEN -- IT'S NOT THE WAY
THAT JESUS HAS OPERATED.

01:19:25.466 --> 01:19:27.567
SO FOR ME, IT'S MORE,
LET'S DO EVERYTHING AS

01:19:27.667 --> 01:19:28.900
UNTO THE LORD.


01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:31.734
SO ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT
IS IMPORTANT THEN IS TO

01:19:31.834 --> 01:19:32.800
EVENTUALLY GOING IN,


01:19:32.900 --> 01:19:35.000
WHAT IS REQUIRED OF
YOU BY GOD?

01:19:35.100 --> 01:19:37.066
SO IF THAT'S A DECISION
FOR YOU, FIRST OF ALL,

01:19:37.166 --> 01:19:38.700
BY GOD, FOR ME,
THERE'S ONLY TWO,

01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:39.866
THREE THINGS IN
MY WHOLE LIFE.

01:19:39.966 --> 01:19:42.134
EVERYTHING ELSE IS
NOT REQUIRED BY GOD.

01:19:42.234 --> 01:19:43.800
IT'S THE MAN'S AND THIS
AND THAT COMES IN.

01:19:43.900 --> 01:19:46.000
AND ONE OF THE THINGS FOR YOU
TO BE A WIFE AND A MOTHER AND

01:19:46.100 --> 01:19:47.700
SOME OF THOSE THINGS,
THAT IS FOR ME,

01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:49.467
AND NOW TO BE
A GRANDPA, TOO,

01:19:49.567 --> 01:19:51.033
AND TO HAVE TIME
FOR THAT.

01:19:51.133 --> 01:19:52.400
SO WHEN I KNOW
WHAT IS REQUIRED,

01:19:52.500 --> 01:19:53.467
WHAT IS THE RETURN?


01:19:53.567 --> 01:19:55.200
WHEN I DO THAT, AND
WHAT IS THE REWARD?

01:19:55.300 --> 01:19:57.900
THE NEED TO BE A REWARD FACTOR
ALSO, REQUIRE A RETURN.

01:19:58.000 --> 01:19:59.867
REWARD NEEDS TO BE IN
ALIGNMENT FOR THEM.

01:19:59.967 --> 01:20:01.166
AND THE REWARD FACTOR IS SO
THAT YOU DON'T BURN OUT,

01:20:01.233 --> 01:20:02.267
MEANING THAT
THERE NEEDS TO BE

01:20:02.367 --> 01:20:03.933
SOME ENJOYMENT OF BLESSINGS.


01:20:04.033 --> 01:20:06.066
IF I'VE BEEN ON A TRIP,
SACRIFICE.

01:20:06.166 --> 01:20:07.533
LET ME TAKE THE FAMILY
TO DISNEY WORLD

01:20:07.633 --> 01:20:09.400
OR DO SOMETHING
SPECIAL FOR THEM.

01:20:09.500 --> 01:20:12.800
SO THOSE ARE IN ALIGNMENT
FOR THE ASSIGNMENT.

01:20:12.900 --> 01:20:14.733
SO I THINK THAT THE
IMPORTANT THING IS ALSO IS

01:20:14.833 --> 01:20:18.634
THAT IF YOU BELIEVE THAT
IF YOU TAKE AN AX AND YOUR

01:20:18.734 --> 01:20:20.833
ASSIGNMENT IS TO CHOP DOWN
THIS TREE AND IT TAKES YOU

01:20:20.933 --> 01:20:25.500
TEN HOURS, IF YOU TAKE TWO
HOURS TO SHARPEN THE AX

01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:26.567
AND WITH A SHARP AX,
IT WOULD ONLY TAKE

01:20:26.667 --> 01:20:27.600
YOU TWO HOURS.


01:20:27.700 --> 01:20:29.500
YOU HAVE SIX HOURS LEFT
OVER AND YOU STILL

01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:32.933
ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING
THAT HE CALLED YOU TO DO.

01:20:33.033 --> 01:20:36.067
SO THE INTIMACY ASPECT OF
BEING IN HIS PRESENCE

01:20:36.167 --> 01:20:38.167
AND HAVING OIL,


01:20:38.267 --> 01:20:40.000
WHAT IS YOUR GAINER
AND YOUR DRAINER

01:20:40.100 --> 01:20:42.633
IN YOUR EMOTIONAL TANK?


01:20:42.733 --> 01:20:44.234
IT'S SO IMPORTANT.


01:20:44.334 --> 01:20:45.100
WHAT IS YOUR GAINER?


01:20:45.200 --> 01:20:46.333
WHAT GIVES YOU
INCOME AND EXPENSE

01:20:46.433 --> 01:20:47.900
IN YOUR EMOTIONAL TANK.


01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:48.767
AND IN MINISTRY,


01:20:48.867 --> 01:20:50.000
WE GIVE, GIVE, GIVE, GIVE.


01:20:50.100 --> 01:20:51.133
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:20:51.233 --> 01:20:52.766
LEIF: YOUR BATTERY GOES
DOWN TO EMPTY AND AT THAT

01:20:52.866 --> 01:20:55.367
MOMENT THE ENEMY ATTACKS
AND HE PUSHES THE BUTTON

01:20:55.467 --> 01:20:58.067
AND YOU START TO MOVE
INTO THE WRONG MODE.

01:20:58.167 --> 01:20:59.367
IT WAS NEVER INTENDED.


01:20:59.467 --> 01:21:02.267
SO IF WE'RE NOT AWARE OF
THAT, INCLUDING PEOPLE,

01:21:02.367 --> 01:21:04.366
INCLUDING THE THINGS THAT
GIVES YOU LIFE AND WHAT

01:21:04.466 --> 01:21:06.700
DOESN'T GIVE YOU LIFE, TO
MAKING SURE YOUR EMOTIONAL

01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:08.066
TANK IS ALSO HEALTHY,


01:21:08.166 --> 01:21:10.633
THAT'S PART OF YOU LOVING
YOU MEANING THAT,

01:21:10.733 --> 01:21:13.366
SO BEING WITH A
SABBATH AS AN EXAMPLE,

01:21:13.466 --> 01:21:16.200
I'M PUTTING THE SABBATH IN
NOW AS A HOLY AND SETTING

01:21:16.300 --> 01:21:17.800
UP A TIME FOR ME.


01:21:17.900 --> 01:21:19.667
SABBATH IS LOVING
GOD, LOVING MYSELF,

01:21:19.767 --> 01:21:20.767
AND JUST LOVING THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE

01:21:20.867 --> 01:21:21.967
MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS


01:21:22.067 --> 01:21:24.367
THAT IS NOT A MINISTRY.


01:21:24.467 --> 01:21:25.933
IT'S NOT AN EXPENSE IN
MY EMOTIONAL TANK OR

01:21:26.033 --> 01:21:30.267
SPIRITUAL BECAUSE
IT GIVES ME LIFE.

01:21:30.367 --> 01:21:32.200
SETTING UP MAYBE
THREE DAYS A MONTH,

01:21:32.300 --> 01:21:35.133
PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, BECAUSE
YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

01:21:35.233 --> 01:21:36.500
NOW YOU'RE TUNING
UP THE ENGINE

01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:38.700
INSTEAD OF JUST FILLING
A LITTLE BIT GAS IN.

01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.266
THEN AT LEAST ON A
QUARTERLY BASIS,

01:21:41.366 --> 01:21:44.067
TAKE A WEEK SO YOU CAN
CHECK EVERY ASPECT OF

01:21:44.167 --> 01:21:45.533
SPIRIT, SOUL, BODY.


01:21:45.633 --> 01:21:47.434
AND THAT COULD BE NOT
JUST ME OR BE ON A BEACH,

01:21:47.534 --> 01:21:48.400
BUT IT COULD BE.


01:21:48.500 --> 01:21:50.267
BUT IT COULD
BE ME, MY WIFE,

01:21:50.367 --> 01:21:51.700
DEPENDING ON WHERE
AND WHAT SEASON

01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:53.133
YOU ARE IN LIFE.


01:21:53.233 --> 01:21:56.100
BUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS
VERY CLEARLY THAT BEING

01:21:56.200 --> 01:21:59.633
PRESENT WITH HIS PRESENCE
AND BEING WHERE I'M

01:21:59.733 --> 01:22:01.900
SUPPOSED TO BE, AND GIVE
YOU THE FREEDOM FROM,

01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:03.934
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED EVEN
WHEN I HAD GOD FIRST,

01:22:04.034 --> 01:22:05.634
BUT WHILE I WAS WITH GOD,
I SHOULD HAVE

01:22:05.734 --> 01:22:06.533
BEEN SOMEWHERE ELSE.


01:22:06.633 --> 01:22:08.566
OR IF I WAS WITH
MY FAMILY,

01:22:08.666 --> 01:22:10.200
IF YOUR MIND
IS ON MINISTRY.

01:22:10.300 --> 01:22:11.766
REBECCA: YEAH, I THINK THAT'S
ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD

01:22:11.866 --> 01:22:14.500
WORD, BECAUSE I'VE
HEARD SO MANY TIMES,

01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:15.934
FIRST, IT'S GOD,
THEN YOUR FAMILY,

01:22:16.034 --> 01:22:16.967
THEN IT'S MINISTRY.


01:22:17.067 --> 01:22:20.800
BUT I THINK THAT'S
ANOTHER ASPECT TO THAT.

01:22:20.900 --> 01:22:24.067
THAT'S I'VE NEVER HEARD,
WHICH IS BE 100% PRESENT.

01:22:24.167 --> 01:22:26.600
SO IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU'RE
SPENDING TIME WITH GOD,

01:22:26.700 --> 01:22:27.566
BE PRESENT WITH THE
LORD.

01:22:27.666 --> 01:22:28.966
WHEN YOU'RE WITH
YOUR FAMILY,

01:22:29.066 --> 01:22:31.466
AND THAT'S HARD, ESPECIALLY,
ESPECIALLY LIKE

01:22:31.566 --> 01:22:32.733
SOMEONE LIKE YOU.


01:22:32.833 --> 01:22:33.867
YOU HAVE LIKE A
MILLION THINGS

01:22:33.967 --> 01:22:35.366
GOING ON IN MINISTRY.


01:22:35.466 --> 01:22:37.400
BUT EVEN LIKE THIS
IS SO SAD TO ADMIT.

01:22:37.500 --> 01:22:40.267
BUT LIKE IN IN
MY GENERATION,

01:22:40.367 --> 01:22:41.833
THEY -- WE HAVE LIKE THE
STUPIDEST THINGS

01:22:41.933 --> 01:22:43.033
TAKING OUR ATTENTION.


01:22:43.133 --> 01:22:45.733
IT'S LIKE WE HAVE TECHNOLOGY
TAKING OUR ATTENTION.

01:22:45.833 --> 01:22:47.666
MY HUSBAND IS ALWAYS LIKE,
DON'T BE ON YOUR PHONE

01:22:47.766 --> 01:22:48.534
ON WITH THE KIDS.


01:22:48.634 --> 01:22:50.233
AND SO IT'S, IT
TAKES, I THINK,

01:22:50.333 --> 01:22:53.033
MORE DISCIPLINE NOW MORE
THAN EVER TO BE PRESENT.

01:22:53.133 --> 01:22:55.300
BUT IF YOU ARE PRESENT
WITH YOUR CHILDREN,

01:22:55.400 --> 01:22:58.033
WITH YOUR SPOUSE,
WITH THE LORD, I MEAN,

01:22:58.133 --> 01:22:59.900
THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE
OF THE GREATEST GIFTS YOU

01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.666
COULD GIVE TO YOURSELF AND
TO THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU.

01:23:02.766 --> 01:23:05.133
SO I THINK THAT'S SUCH A
GOOD LIKE ADD-ON TO THAT

01:23:05.233 --> 01:23:08.333
WHOLE WORK THING OF HOW TO
FIND BALANCE IS TO GIVE THE

01:23:08.433 --> 01:23:10.467
PEOPLE AROUND YOU AND
YOURSELF AND THE LORD

01:23:10.567 --> 01:23:12.366
THE GIFT OF BEING PRESENT.


01:23:12.466 --> 01:23:14.366
AND I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN
YOU SPEND TIME WITH GOD,

01:23:14.466 --> 01:23:16.267
THERE'S NEVER BEEN MORE
OF A TEMPTATION TO BE

01:23:16.367 --> 01:23:18.900
THINKING ABOUT A MILLION
DIFFERENT OTHER THINGS.

01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:20.100
LEIF: YEAH, I KNOW
IT'S A SABBATH,

01:23:20.200 --> 01:23:22.433
BUT ALSO THE REVELATION AS
A SON AND DAUGHTER GO BACK

01:23:22.533 --> 01:23:25.067
TO OUR BASIC MESSAGE
THAT WE STARTED WITH.

01:23:25.167 --> 01:23:26.166
DO YOU BELIEVE?


01:23:26.266 --> 01:23:28.167
AND IF YOU DON'T, AND
I'M NOT ABOUT YOU JUST,

01:23:28.267 --> 01:23:30.033
BUT I'M TALKING
ABOUT THE VIEWERS.

01:23:30.133 --> 01:23:34.400
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE
IS MORE FRUIT TO WORK FROM

01:23:34.500 --> 01:23:37.667
REST THAN TOWARDS REST?


01:23:37.767 --> 01:23:41.534
SO IF YOU SEE THE STARTING
POINT, GOD WORKED

01:23:41.634 --> 01:23:44.267
FOR SIX DAYS AND THE LAST
DAY A MAN CREATION.

01:23:44.367 --> 01:23:47.267
THE FIRST DAY ADAM AND EVE
EXPERIENCED WITH GOD WAS

01:23:47.367 --> 01:23:49.567
DAY NUMBER SEVEN,
A DAY OF REST.

01:23:49.667 --> 01:23:52.366
SO THAT THE SON AND
DAUGHTER SHOULD NEVER SEE

01:23:52.466 --> 01:23:53.466
GOD WORKING.


01:23:53.566 --> 01:23:56.867
BUT THEY WILL LIVE FROM
REST, NOT TOWARDS IT.

01:23:56.967 --> 01:23:58.534
SO THE CURSE THAT CAME
FROM THE WHOLE SWEAT

01:23:58.634 --> 01:23:59.433
WAS VERY DIFFERENT.


01:23:59.533 --> 01:24:01.667
SO GO BACK TO
THIS WHOLE THING.

01:24:01.767 --> 01:24:03.767
IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A
REVELATION THAT THERE'S

01:24:03.867 --> 01:24:06.933
MORE FRUIT OR PRODUCTIVITY
TO LIVE FROM REST THAN

01:24:07.033 --> 01:24:09.733
TOWARDS REST, YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.

01:24:09.833 --> 01:24:11.033
SO THAT'S A REVELATION.


01:24:11.133 --> 01:24:13.733
ALSO, I'M COMING IN, SO THEY
HAVE AN ENGINE ON THE CAR.

01:24:13.833 --> 01:24:15.600
IF I TAKE CARE,
CHECK THE OIL, ENGINE,

01:24:15.700 --> 01:24:17.700
EVERYTHING, I TAKE ONE DAY,
FILL UP THE TANK.

01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:19.666
THAT CAR IS GOING TO RUN BETTER
THEN I WAIT UNTIL

01:24:19.766 --> 01:24:21.367
IT'S ALMOST EMPTY AND THEN
I'M GOING TO TAKE ONE DAY

01:24:21.467 --> 01:24:23.134
IN THE END TO FILL IT UP.


01:24:23.234 --> 01:24:24.800
SO IT'S JUST ALSO
HAVE TO DO THAT.

01:24:24.900 --> 01:24:27.466
SUDDENLY, WHEN I REALIZED
THE WAY I INVEST MY TIME,

01:24:27.566 --> 01:24:31.100
TALENT AND TREASURE IS GOING TO
BE VERY DIFFERENTLY

01:24:31.200 --> 01:24:33.400
WHEN I HAVE A
REVELATION THAT REST IS

01:24:33.500 --> 01:24:34.933
YOUR WEAPON OF WARFARE.


01:24:35.033 --> 01:24:37.400
AND WHY IS THE ENEMY SO
AFRAID OF YOU RESTING?

01:24:37.500 --> 01:24:39.700
BECAUSE WHEN YOU REST,
YOU RECEIVE.

01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:41.866
WHEN YOU RECEIVE,
YOU BECOME.

01:24:41.966 --> 01:24:44.733
WHEN YOU BECOME,
YOU RELEASE.

01:24:44.833 --> 01:24:46.133
AND RESTING IS THE KEY.


01:24:46.233 --> 01:24:49.833
THAT'S WHY MY SURGEON GAVE
ME A SHOT SO I COULD REST

01:24:49.933 --> 01:24:51.233
SO HE COULD WORK.


01:24:51.333 --> 01:24:52.200
BECAUSE GOD IS WORKING


01:24:52.300 --> 01:24:53.500
WHEN WE ARE RESTING.


01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:54.967
AND MANY TIMES THE
ENEMY WANTS

01:24:55.067 --> 01:24:57.500
US TO GOING IN
HERE ANXIETY, FEAR.

01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:00.567
AND IT'S GET BACK TO
THE ORPHAN SPIRIT BECAUSE

01:25:00.667 --> 01:25:04.167
I HAVE TO DO TO HAVE TO BECOME
OR OTHER PEOPLE'S DEMAND.

01:25:04.267 --> 01:25:07.033
BUT IT'S STILL CONNECTED
TO THE ORPHAN HEART.

01:25:07.133 --> 01:25:09.034
BUT SONS AND DAUGHTERS,
JESUS IS AT REST

01:25:09.134 --> 01:25:09.900
WITH HIS FATHER.


01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:11.267
I DO WHAT I SEE
MY FATHER DO.

01:25:11.367 --> 01:25:13.533
HE COULD LEAVE THE CROWDS
BEHIND AND HE COULD,

01:25:13.633 --> 01:25:14.967
COMING IN, AND HE COULD
SLEEP IN THE MIDDLE

01:25:15.067 --> 01:25:16.400
OF THE STORM.


01:25:16.500 --> 01:25:18.600
SPIRITUAL, EMOTIONAL
AND PHYSICAL STORM.

01:25:18.700 --> 01:25:19.600
AND HE PUTS HIS PILLOW.


01:25:19.700 --> 01:25:20.600
HE BROUGHT HIS CUSHION.


01:25:20.700 --> 01:25:21.600
WHY?


01:25:21.700 --> 01:25:22.733
BECAUSE WHERE THE FATHER
IS, THERE IS REST,

01:25:22.833 --> 01:25:24.667
HE COULD SPEAK TO THE
STORMS THAT WAS AROUND HIM.

01:25:24.767 --> 01:25:26.700
IF THAT'S IN YOUR MARRIAGE
OR IN YOUR FAMILY OR FINE,

01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:28.100
HE COULD SPEAK TO THE
STORM AROUND BECAUSE HE

01:25:28.200 --> 01:25:30.200
DIDN'T HAVE A STORM
ON THE INSIDE.

01:25:30.300 --> 01:25:33.000
THAT'S WHAT REST DOES.


01:25:33.100 --> 01:25:35.966
REBECCA: AND SO THE ORPHAN
SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO TO BECOME.

01:25:36.066 --> 01:25:37.100
BUT THE SON SAYS?


01:25:37.200 --> 01:25:38.100
LEIF: I AM.


01:25:38.200 --> 01:25:40.000
AND BECAUSE OF WHO
I AM, I ALREADY HAVE.

01:25:40.100 --> 01:25:41.733
AND BECAUSE OF WHAT
I HAVE NOW, I CAN DO.

01:25:41.833 --> 01:25:42.834
SO YOU DO.


01:25:42.934 --> 01:25:43.834
SO THERE IS A SPIRIT
OF EXCELLENCE.

01:25:43.934 --> 01:25:46.267
SO I'M NOT AGAINST,


01:25:46.367 --> 01:25:47.100
BUT DID YOU SEE
THE DIFFERENCE?

01:25:47.200 --> 01:25:50.900
ORPHANS I DO, I
HAVE, I BECOME.

01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:51.900
SONS AND DAUGHTERS,


01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.800
I AM, I AM, I'M HIS,
I'M HIS BELOVED.

01:25:54.900 --> 01:25:55.367
I AM.


01:25:55.467 --> 01:25:56.966
BECAUSE OF WHO I AM,


01:25:57.066 --> 01:25:57.667
I HAVE.


01:25:57.767 --> 01:25:59.833
ALL THAT I HAVE IS YOURS.


01:25:59.933 --> 01:26:01.100
IT'S ALREADY MINE.


01:26:01.200 --> 01:26:03.800
I DON'T HAVE TO AND BECAUSE
OF WHAT I HAVE NOW, I DO.

01:26:03.900 --> 01:26:05.734
I HAVE AN A-PLUS
ON MY REPORT CARD.

01:26:05.834 --> 01:26:08.367
I CAN TREAT YOU
WITH AN A-PLUS.

01:26:08.467 --> 01:26:11.367
SO THE WHOLE DOING THE --
ALL OF THAT COMES FROM

01:26:11.467 --> 01:26:13.266
IDENTITY AND INTIMACY.


01:26:13.366 --> 01:26:17.034
NOW AS A RESULT OF THAT,
HERE'S WHAT I GET TO DO.

01:26:17.134 --> 01:26:18.900
BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE
MY VALUE COMES FROM.

01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.933
MY VALUE IS IN WHO I AM,
WHO MY FATHER IS.

01:26:22.033 --> 01:26:22.900
AND OUT OF THAT, I GET
TO DO ALL THESE THINGS

01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:23.633
FOR PAPA GOD.


01:26:23.733 --> 01:26:25.000
AND IT IS AMAZING.


01:26:25.100 --> 01:26:26.567
AND I ALWAYS
REPRESENT HIM WELL

01:26:26.667 --> 01:26:28.500
BECAUSE THAT'S WHO HE IS.


01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:31.334
THAT'S THE DIFFERENT
VALUE SYSTEM.

01:26:31.434 --> 01:26:32.334
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:26:32.434 --> 01:26:34.534
SO MY LAST QUESTION
IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE

01:26:34.634 --> 01:26:36.833
STRUGGLING WITH
THAT ORPHAN HEART,

01:26:36.933 --> 01:26:40.467
WHAT IS THE FIRST STEP
TO RECEIVE THE SPIRIT OF

01:26:40.567 --> 01:26:44.200
ADOPTION IN SONSHIP AND LIVE
OUT OF THAT REVELATION?

01:26:44.300 --> 01:26:45.833
LEIF: YEAH, I MEAN, A
COUPLE OF PRACTICAL.

01:26:45.933 --> 01:26:48.600
I KNOW WE HAVE MY BOOK
HERE THAT CAN HELP BECAUSE

01:26:48.700 --> 01:26:50.066
THERE'S QUITE A
FEW PROCESSES.

01:26:50.166 --> 01:26:51.267
THERE'S SOME OTHER
TOOLS I HAVE.

01:26:51.367 --> 01:26:53.066
AND I'M NOT SAYING
THAT FOR ADVERTISEMENT

01:26:53.166 --> 01:26:55.367
PURPOSE, BUT JUST THERE
ARE SOME TOOLS THAT CAN

01:26:55.467 --> 01:26:57.900
HELP YOU TO BOTH IDENTIFY.


01:26:58.000 --> 01:26:59.900
ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE THERE,
THERE IS A WHOLE LINE THERE.

01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:01.167
HERE IS THE ORPHAN WAY


01:27:01.267 --> 01:27:02.333
COMPARED TO SONSHIP.


01:27:02.433 --> 01:27:04.300
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW
YOU SEE GOD AND HOW YOU

01:27:04.400 --> 01:27:05.433
SEE OTHER PEOPLE.


01:27:05.533 --> 01:27:07.566
AND YOU CAN GO LINE BY
LINE AND RECOGNIZE SOME OF

01:27:07.666 --> 01:27:10.133
THOSE TENDENCIES, OR
COULD BE FINANCES,

01:27:10.233 --> 01:27:13.134
LOOKING AT HEALTH ISSUES
AND GO THROUGH THE LINE.

01:27:13.234 --> 01:27:15.500
BUT THE BIG THING
FOR ME THAT AGAIN,

01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:18.000
FOR ME PERSONALLY SPEAKING
AND IT'S DIFFERENT.

01:27:18.100 --> 01:27:20.766
I KNOW I'M OPERATING
FROM AN ORPHAN TENDENCY.

01:27:20.866 --> 01:27:23.367
IT'S HAPPENED ON
MY WAY HERE TWICE,

01:27:23.467 --> 01:27:25.700
JUST ON MY TRIP HERE THAT
THESE THINGS COMES IN.

01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:29.200
I KNOW RESTLESS,
AND LACK OF PEACE.

01:27:29.300 --> 01:27:30.767
THOSE ARE MY
TWO INDICATORS.

01:27:30.867 --> 01:27:31.733
IT CAN BE DIFFERENT.


01:27:31.833 --> 01:27:32.900
THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING
TO HELP PEOPLE.

01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:34.333
IT CAN BE A
DIFFERENT INDICATOR

01:27:34.433 --> 01:27:35.500
HOW YOU'RE WIRED.


01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:38.067
BUT FOR ME, I KNOW.


01:27:38.167 --> 01:27:40.733
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS,
BUT I'M NOT TOTALLY AT REST.

01:27:40.833 --> 01:27:43.133
AND THE DOVE DOESN'T TOTALLY
FIND A RESTING PLACE.

01:27:43.233 --> 01:27:44.267
YOU CAN FEEL
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

01:27:44.367 --> 01:27:47.034
IT'S NOT TOTALLY AT REST,
AND I FIND MY RESTING

01:27:47.134 --> 01:27:48.667
PLACE IN MY SONSHIP.


01:27:48.767 --> 01:27:50.966
WHEN I GET BACK
AGAIN TOWARDS, JONI,

01:27:51.066 --> 01:27:53.133
OR TOWARDS YOU JUST TO BE A
SON TOWARDS YOU.

01:27:53.233 --> 01:27:54.067
BECAUSE THAT'S
WHAT JESUS DID.

01:27:54.167 --> 01:27:56.333
MEANING, I'M COMING
HERE AS A SON.

01:27:56.433 --> 01:27:58.300
I PLACE MYSELF UNDER
SOMEBODY ELSE'S MISSION

01:27:58.400 --> 01:27:59.200
AND LIFT UP.


01:27:59.300 --> 01:28:01.067
THAT'S WHAT SONSHIP
DOES, THAT SHIP.

01:28:01.167 --> 01:28:02.066
HOW CAN I SERVE?


01:28:02.166 --> 01:28:03.500
WHEN I COME FROM BEING
A SON WITH

01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:04.734
A DOVE, I FIND FREEDOM.


01:28:04.834 --> 01:28:06.167
THAT'S WHEN YOU
SEE MY FREEDOM.

01:28:06.267 --> 01:28:09.234
BUT AS SOON AS, OH, HERE'S
A MAN OF GOD, AN AUTHOR.

01:28:09.334 --> 01:28:11.067
AS SOON AS I FEEL SOME
OF THAT ANOINTING,

01:28:11.167 --> 01:28:12.734
WHAT ARE YOU GOING
TO SAY OR NOT SAY?

01:28:12.834 --> 01:28:14.234
AND I FEEL PRESSURE.


01:28:14.334 --> 01:28:14.934
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:28:15.034 --> 01:28:16.233
LEIF: AND I FEEL RESTLESS.


01:28:16.333 --> 01:28:19.133
AND THEN THE PEACE GOES
AND THEN I WILL TAP IN.

01:28:19.233 --> 01:28:21.433
THEN THE ORPHAN THING
STARTS TO COME KICK BACK.

01:28:21.533 --> 01:28:22.400
BECAUSE I KNOW
HOW TO DO THAT.

01:28:22.500 --> 01:28:23.000
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:28:23.100 --> 01:28:24.666
LEIF: TO HAVE TO BECOME.


01:28:24.766 --> 01:28:27.733
INSTEAD OF GO BACK
TO KNOW I AM A SON.

01:28:27.833 --> 01:28:28.867
I'M A BELOVED SON.


01:28:28.967 --> 01:28:30.700
BEFORE I HAD AN
INTERVIEW WITH REBECCA,

01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:31.866
I HAD AN A-PLUS.


01:28:31.966 --> 01:28:34.133
NOT BASED UPON
HOW WELL I DID,

01:28:34.233 --> 01:28:36.600
BUT BECAUSE I'M SIMPLY
WILLING TO SHOW UP.

01:28:36.700 --> 01:28:40.500
BE WILLING TO BE HONEST
AND REPRESENT YOU, PAPA.

01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:42.133
REBECCA: AND SO IT'S LIKE
YOU RESET YOURSELF.

01:28:42.233 --> 01:28:44.833
IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU BEGIN
TO SEE THAT YOU KNOW,

01:28:44.933 --> 01:28:46.134
OKAY, I'M NOT GOING
TO MOVE INTO THIS.

01:28:46.234 --> 01:28:48.766
I'M GOING TO MOVE BACK
INTO KNOWING WHO GOD MADE

01:28:48.866 --> 01:28:52.200
ME TO BE, AND I'M NOT
GOING TO PERFORM FOR ME.

01:28:52.300 --> 01:28:54.566
LEIF: LIKE FOR ME, I TAKE 30
DAYS IF I WANT TO BE PRACTICAL.

01:28:54.666 --> 01:28:56.167
IF I DO COACHING
AROUND THIS,

01:28:56.267 --> 01:28:57.433
THAT'S WHY I SAY TAKE
30 DAYS RIGHT NOW,

01:28:57.533 --> 01:29:01.366
AND START TO RECOGNIZE DOVE,
PIGEONS AND RECOGNIZE

01:29:01.466 --> 01:29:03.300
WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE
THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW,

01:29:03.400 --> 01:29:05.567
THE DOVE IS THERE WHEN THERE'S
REST AND THERE'S PEACE.

01:29:05.667 --> 01:29:07.166
SO FIND OUT WHAT
ARE THOSE THINGS.

01:29:07.266 --> 01:29:09.334
BUT THEN ALSO TAKE EVEN A
NOTEBOOK PAPER AND START

01:29:09.434 --> 01:29:11.100
TO NOTICE SOME OF THOSE
DIFFERENT THINGS.

01:29:11.200 --> 01:29:13.900
AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE TESTED
TO SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:16.834
SO IS THIS COMING
FROM A PLACE OF REST?

01:29:16.934 --> 01:29:19.000
IS THIS COMING FROM
A PLACE OF LOVE?

01:29:19.100 --> 01:29:21.100
IS THIS COMING WHEN
I WANT TO ADD VALUE?

01:29:21.200 --> 01:29:22.633
LOVE WITHOUT A
HOOK AND ETCETERA.

01:29:22.733 --> 01:29:24.034
SO YOU'RE JUST GOING
IN AND RECOGNIZE,

01:29:24.134 --> 01:29:26.500
AH, HERE ARE SOME OF THAT
ORPHAN TENDENCY AGAIN.

01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.167
OR INSTEAD OF THEN
FEELING CONDEMNATION,

01:29:29.267 --> 01:29:31.000
NO, IT'S CALLED
SELF-AWARENESS.

01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:32.600
THAT'S ALL WHAT
IT WAS BEFORE.

01:29:32.700 --> 01:29:35.267
SO AT THAT MOMENT, WHEN YOU
FEEL WEARY AND HEAVY LADEN,

01:29:35.367 --> 01:29:38.467
JESUS SAYS, COME TO ME AND I
WILL GIVE YOU REST.

01:29:38.567 --> 01:29:40.700
THAT'S FOR ORPHANS.


01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:41.734
THERE'S NO REASON
TO COME TO HIM,

01:29:41.834 --> 01:29:43.966
IF YOU ARE NOT WEARY
AND HEAVY LADEN.

01:29:44.066 --> 01:29:45.500
SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
EXPERIENCING WEARINESS

01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:46.333
AND ARE HEAVY LADEN,


01:29:46.433 --> 01:29:48.033
JESUS SAYS,
NOW COME TO ME,

01:29:48.133 --> 01:29:49.500
COME BACK TO CHAIR
NUMBER ONE.

01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:51.233
THAT'S THE RESTING PLACE.


01:29:51.333 --> 01:29:52.166
MY BURDEN IS EASY.


01:29:52.266 --> 01:29:53.034
MY YOKE IS LIGHT.


01:29:53.134 --> 01:29:54.800
SO IF YOU FEEL THE
PRESSURE IN LIFE,

01:29:54.900 --> 01:29:57.966
COME TO ME OR YOU'RE
GOING INTO THE STORMS.

01:29:58.066 --> 01:30:00.300
DOES JESUS HAVE
HIS CUSHION?

01:30:00.400 --> 01:30:01.634
AND ARE YOU RESTING
WHERE HE IS RESTING?

01:30:01.734 --> 01:30:02.833
SO WHAT IS JESUS
DOING INSTEAD OF

01:30:02.933 --> 01:30:04.333
WHAT JESUS IS NOT DOING?


01:30:04.433 --> 01:30:06.266
SO AS SOON AS YOU'RE BEING
OVERWHELMED BY WHAT'S

01:30:06.366 --> 01:30:08.433
GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE,
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO BE

01:30:08.533 --> 01:30:10.933
OVERWHELMED BY JESUS?


01:30:11.033 --> 01:30:12.000
AND SOMETIMES IT IS
TIME FOR

01:30:12.100 --> 01:30:13.733
YOU TO ROW
AGAINST THE WIND.

01:30:13.833 --> 01:30:15.933
THE OTHER TIMES THIS IS
TIME FOR YOU TO BRING THAT

01:30:16.033 --> 01:30:17.634
CUSHION AND
REST WITH JESUS,

01:30:17.734 --> 01:30:19.967
BECAUSE IF HE IS RESTING,
YOU CAN BE AT REST.

01:30:20.067 --> 01:30:20.933
WHAT'S GOING ON IN
YOUR HEALTH

01:30:21.033 --> 01:30:22.533
AND ARE YOU GETTING A CALL?


01:30:22.633 --> 01:30:24.367
MY GRANDBABY HAS
THIS HOLE IN HER HEART

01:30:24.467 --> 01:30:25.533
AND THIS IS HOW -- I MEAN.


01:30:25.633 --> 01:30:27.466
SO WE HAVE 4 OR 5 OF THOSE
THINGS GOING ON ALMOST

01:30:27.566 --> 01:30:28.966
EVERY SINGLE DAY.


01:30:29.066 --> 01:30:33.600
AND THE TENDENCY IS FOR ME
TO THEN LEAD FORWARD OR START

01:30:33.700 --> 01:30:36.366
TO PRAY FROM A PLACE
WHERE I'LL FORGET

01:30:36.466 --> 01:30:37.933
ABOUT MY IDENTITY.


01:30:38.033 --> 01:30:41.100
LEANING FORWARD INSTEAD
OF LEANING BACK

01:30:41.200 --> 01:30:42.333
AS A BELOVED SON.


01:30:42.433 --> 01:30:45.733
PAPA, I BELONG TO YOU.


01:30:45.833 --> 01:30:48.200
HERE I AM YOUR SON,
YOUR BELOVED SON,

01:30:48.300 --> 01:30:49.433
AND I NEED YOUR
HOLY SPIRIT.

01:30:49.533 --> 01:30:52.167
SO JUST COME AND REST UPON
ME SO THAT I CAN FIND.

01:30:52.267 --> 01:30:54.767
AND THEN FROM THAT PLACE,
YOU START TO OPERATE,

01:30:54.867 --> 01:30:56.700
I DO WHAT I SEE
MY FATHER DO,

01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:58.300
AND YOU START TO SPEAK
TO THE STORMS AROUND.

01:30:58.400 --> 01:31:00.033
NOW YOU'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT THE GIANT.

01:31:00.133 --> 01:31:01.400
YOU START TO SPEAK
TO THE GIANT.

01:31:01.500 --> 01:31:02.633
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:31:02.733 --> 01:31:04.933
LEIF: BECAUSE AGAIN, IT COMES
FROM A PLACE OF IDENTITY.

01:31:05.033 --> 01:31:08.633
AND OUT OF THE IDENTITY,
THERE IS AUTHORITY.

01:31:08.733 --> 01:31:09.833
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.


01:31:09.933 --> 01:31:12.633
WELL, LEIF, I WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

01:31:12.733 --> 01:31:15.200
BEING HERE AND FOR JUST
TAKING THE TIME AND

01:31:15.300 --> 01:31:16.966
POURING INTO OUR AUDIENCE.


01:31:17.066 --> 01:31:19.933
HE HAS HIS BOOK,<i>HEALING
THE ORPHAN SPIRIT.</i>

01:31:20.033 --> 01:31:20.933
I'M ASSUMING YOU
CAN GET THIS

01:31:21.033 --> 01:31:22.067
OBVIOUSLY LIKE AMAZON.


01:31:22.167 --> 01:31:23.367
LEIF: YEAH,
EVERYWHERE, YEAH.

01:31:23.467 --> 01:31:24.667
REBECCA: BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO GET CONNECTED TO YOU AND

01:31:24.767 --> 01:31:26.067
YOUR MINISTRY, WHAT IS THE
BEST PLACE FOR THEM TO GO?

01:31:26.133 --> 01:31:27.367
LEIF: IF THEY JUST
LOOK UP MY NAME,

01:31:27.467 --> 01:31:30.233
LEIF HETLAND OR GLOBAL
MISSION AWARENESS,

01:31:30.333 --> 01:31:32.200
OR THEY CAN EITHER FIND ME
ON MY WEBSITE OR ANY OF

01:31:32.300 --> 01:31:33.134
THE SOCIAL MEDIA.


01:31:33.234 --> 01:31:34.667
I'M NOT THAT BIG
ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA,

01:31:34.767 --> 01:31:35.833
BUT IT'S ALL OVER THERE.


01:31:35.933 --> 01:31:37.500
IT'S USUALLY SOME OF MY
STAFF JUST SHARING WHAT

01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:38.600
I'M DOING AROUND.


01:31:38.700 --> 01:31:40.366
AND ALSO, YOU CAN
FIND MY BOOKS.

01:31:40.466 --> 01:31:42.233
ALSO, I HAVE SOMETHING
CALLED A MASTERCLASS.

01:31:42.333 --> 01:31:44.867
IF SOMEBODY'S REALLY
SERIOUS ABOUT THIS JOURNEY,

01:31:44.967 --> 01:31:46.800
I HAVE THIS 12, KIND
OF A 12-WEEK JOURNEY

01:31:46.900 --> 01:31:49.666
THEY CAN GO ON WHERE YOU
GET THE BAPTISM OF LOVE.

01:31:49.766 --> 01:31:52.067
WE ACTUALLY TOOK 1100
PEOPLE JUST LIKE THIS,

01:31:52.167 --> 01:31:54.600
BUT I TOOK THEM THROUGH
THE 12-WEEK PROCESS TO GO

01:31:54.700 --> 01:31:57.234
FROM AN ORPHAN TO
BECOMING A BELOVED SON,

01:31:57.334 --> 01:31:59.000
AND WENT THROUGH ALL
THE DIFFERENT STAGES

01:31:59.100 --> 01:32:01.066
WITH ENCOUNTERS,
WITH COACHING.

01:32:01.166 --> 01:32:03.066
SO WE BECOME MUCH MORE THAN --


01:32:03.166 --> 01:32:04.567
BECAUSE WHEN COVID
HAPPENED,

01:32:04.667 --> 01:32:06.600
I HAD A BLESSING
OF SPENDING THE TIME IN A

01:32:06.700 --> 01:32:09.733
STUDIO AND TOOK 12 WEEKS
AND JUST SET UP ALL THESE

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VIDEOS AND INTERVIEW
AND HELP PEOPLE HOW TO

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RECEIVE, LOVE, THEN GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS.

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HOW DO YOU BECOME IT?


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SO THEN YOU CAN START
HOW TO RELEASE IT.

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REBECCA: THAT'S AWESOME.


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LEIF: YEAH.


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REBECCA: WELL, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE, LEIF.

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LEIF: IT IS MY HONOR,
AND THANK YOU

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FOR HAVING ME, REBECCA.


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REBECCA: AND THANK YOU
FOR LISTENING TO

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<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.</i>


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[ LAUGHTER ]