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REBECCA LAMB WEISS:
HEY, GUYS,

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WELCOME TO THE
REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.

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I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY


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BECAUSE WE HAVE
AUTHOR AND PASTOR

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OF HUNGRYGEN CHURCH,


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VLADIMIR SAVCHUK HERE.


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I AM SO EXCITED
TO HAVE YOU HERE.

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THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE TODAY.

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VLADIMIR SAVCHUK:
THANK YOU, REBECCA.

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I'M GLAD TO BE HERE


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AND FINALLY GET A CHANCE
TO BE ON YOUR PODCAST.

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REBECCA: I KNOW.


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YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN
FOLLOWING YOU,

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I LOVE YOUR CONTENT,
I LOVE YOUR MINISTRY,

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SO I'M HONORED
TO HAVE YOU HERE.

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VLADIMIR: I'M HONORED
TO BE HERE AS WELL.

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AND TO SEE THE
WHOLE DAYSTAR

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AND THEN WATCHING
FROM A DISTANCE,

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AND NOW HAVING A CHANCE
TO MEET YOUR PARENTS

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AND THE WHOLE CREW,
IT'S INCREDIBLE.

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REBECCA:
THAT'S AWESOME.

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SO FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT
NOT KNOW YOUR STORY,

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WHY DON'T YOU
SHARE YOUR -

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ACTUALLY NOT EVEN
JUST YOUR TESTIMONY,

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YOUR TESTIMONY
IS GENERATIONAL.

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VLADIMIR: UH-HUH.


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REBECCA: SO LET'S GO BACK
TO YOUR GREAT GRANDFATHER.

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VLADIMIR: SO HIS
NAME WAS PHILIP.

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HE CAME TO KNOW THE LORD,


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AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT,


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TO GATHER TOGETHER
AS CHRISTIANS

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AND TO PREACH THE GOSPEL,


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IT WAS ILLEGAL IN THE
FORMER SOVIET UNION.

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SO HE GETS ARRESTED AND
GETS SENTENCED TO TEN YEARS,

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BUT HE GETS RELEASED
AFTER FIVE YEARS

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OF SERVING HIS SENTENCE.


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AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT,
HIM AND HIS BEST FRIEND

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WERE WALKING OUT
OF THE VILLAGE

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AND THE COMMUNIST
COMMANDERS

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WERE RIDING ON
THIS CARRIAGE.

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THEY FORCED HIM TO
GET ON THE CARRIAGE.

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AS HE WAS ON IT, OF COURSE
THEIR PLAN WAS TO HURT HIM.

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SO THEY STARTED TO BEAT
HIM AND HIS FRIEND.

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HIS FRIEND QUICKLY
JUMPED OUT AND ESCAPED.

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AND MY GREAT GRANDFATHER
WAS JUMPING OUT

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AND HIS FOOT GOT STUCK


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BETWEEN THE WOODEN
PLANKS OF THE CARRIAGE,

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AND HIS BODY DANGLING
ON THE GROUND,

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YOU KNOW, HITTING
THAT PAVEMENT,

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AS THE HORSES WERE
RIDING EVEN FASTER.

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AND SO THESE COMMANDERS
WERE JUST BEATING HIM

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FOR THE NEXT 40 MINUTES


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UNTIL THEY ALREADY SAW -


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THEY ACTUALLY
THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD.

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HE JUST WENT UNCONSCIOUS,


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AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT,


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HE SUFFERED IRREVERSIBLE
BRAIN DAMAGE

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AND THEN HE DIED.


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REBECCA: SO
HE WAS A MARTYR.

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VLADIMIR: HE
WAS A MARTYR, YEAH.

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AND THEN MY GRANDMA
TOLD ME THIS STORY

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AND MY GRANDMA
IS STILL ALIVE.

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SHE HAS 16 KIDS.


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REBECCA: WHAT?


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VLADIMIR: AND SHE
REALLY HAD TO,

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THEY HAD TO GROW
UP, YOU KNOW,

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AS PRETTY MUCH
WITHOUT THEIR FATHER.

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AND THEN WHEN SHE
HAD HER CHILDREN,

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YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GOING
THROUGH PERSECUTION

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DURING THAT TIME.


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SO SHE TOLD ME A
LOT OF THE STORIES,

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BECAUSE I'VE HEARD STORIES
JUST FROM THE MEDIA,

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BOOKS AND PREACHERS,


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BUT HEARING THAT
FROM MY GRANDMA

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WHO IS STILL ALIVE,


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AND HOW THEY
HAD TO SURVIVE,

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HOW THEY HAD TO
LEARN TO TRUST GOD,

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HOW THEY HAD TO SWITCH
THEIR CHURCH SERVICES

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FIVE TO TEN
MINUTES BEFORE

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SO THAT THE KGB COULDN'T
CATCH UP WITH THEM

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BECAUSE THERE WAS
CONSTANTLY SECRET AGENTS

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THAT WERE MONITORING THEM.


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YOU KNOW, AND, REBECCA,
WHAT I FIND INTERESTING

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IS THAT COMMUNISM HAD A
VERY SIMILAR STRATEGY

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TO WHAT IS HAPPENING
IN OUR CULTURE TODAY.

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THEY DIDN'T HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH YOU

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BELIEVING IN GOD
IN YOUR HEART.

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THEY JUST HAD A PROBLEM
WITH YOU TALKING ABOUT IT,

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AND THEY HAD A PROBLEM
WITH YOU ASSEMBLING.

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SO AS LONG AS YOU
BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART

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BUT DON'T TELL ANYBODY.


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SO THAT IS HOW
I CAME ABOUT.

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THAT'S FROM MY
MOTHER'S SIDE.

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FROM MY FATHER'S SIDE,


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MY FATHER, HIS DAD,
MY GRANDFATHER,

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HIS NAME IS IVAN.


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AND HE HAD LEPROSY.


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AND WHEN AMERICAN
MISSIONARIES

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CAME TO THE VILLAGE,


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THE VILLAGE WAS NOT
A CHRISTIAN VILLAGE.

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ATHEISTIC.


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TYPICAL COMMUNIST,
SOCIALIST,

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COMMUNIST ENVIRONMENT.


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AND MY GRANDFATHER
IVAN HAD LEPROSY,

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SO THEY, ONE OF THE
THINGS THEY DID IS,

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THEY DIDN'T JUST
PREACH THE GOSPEL.

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IN THOSE PARTS
OF THE WORLD,

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AND I BELIEVE EVEN IN THIS
PART OF THE WORLD

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WE NEED THAT MORE,


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IS THEY DEMONSTRATED
THE GOSPEL.

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SO THEY JUST PRAYED
FOR THIS KID, IVAN.

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AND THIS WAS
MY GRANDFATHER.

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AND HE GOT
HEALED INSTANTLY,

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ACCORDING TO MY FATHER.


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AND THEN THE WHOLE
FAMILY CONVERTED.

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AND THEN MY GRANDFATHER
ACTUALLY BECAME

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A PASTOR IN THAT CITY.


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AND I VISITED,
WHEN I WAS A KID,

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I VISITED THAT CITY.


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THE MAJORITY OF THAT, WAS
ACTUALLY MORE OF

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LIKE A VILLAGE.


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THE MAJORITY OF THAT
VILLAGE ARE CHRISTIANS NOW.

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REBECCA: WOW.


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VLADIMIR: SO
IT'S SUCH A POWER -

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SUCH A POWERFUL TESTAMENT


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OF WHAT ONE MIRACLE,
LEADING PEOPLE TO JESUS

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CAN DO TO
TRANSFORM A VILLAGE.

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REBECCA: IT JUST SHOWS HOW
ONE SMALL SEED, PLANTED,

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HOW IT CAN GROW.


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VLADIMIR: INDEED.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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SO, THAT'S YOUR
GREAT GRANDFATHER,

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YOUR GRANDFATHER.


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NOW WHAT ABOUT YOU?


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VLADIMIR: SO I WAS
BORN IN THE YEAR 1986,

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WHICH FOR THOSE PEOPLE
WHO KNOW ANYTHING

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ABOUT THAT PART
OF THE WORLD,

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THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A BIG
EXPLOSION THAT HAPPENED

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IN THE FORMER
SOVIET UNION.

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AND IT WAS THE
CHERNOBYL EXPLOSION.

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I WAS BORN NOT VERY
FAR FROM THERE.

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REBECCA: WHICH IS,
BY THE WAY, IS CRAZY.

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AND FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T
KNOW WHAT THAT WAS,

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THAT WAS A NUCLEAR POWER
PLANT THAT EXPLODED.

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SO RADIATION, WHICH IS
EXTREMELY POISONOUS,

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GOT EVERYWHERE.


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AND IT MADE TONS OF
PEOPLE EXTREMELY SICK.

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VLADIMIR: A LOT
OF PEOPLE DIED.

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REBECCA: YEAH.


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VLADIMIR: A LOT OF PEOPLE
WERE BORN WITH DEFORMITIES.

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REBECCA: BIRTH DEFECTS.


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VLADIMIR:
BIRTH DEFECTS.

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THAT'S ONE OF
THE COMMON SIGNS

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OF THE RADIATION.


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I DON'T THINK
THAT I WAS -

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I DON'T THINK THAT
MY BIRTH WAS AFFECTED

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NECESSARILY DIRECTLY.


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BY THAT, THAT'S
AGAIN MY ASSUMPTION,

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BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT
REALLY HAPPENED.

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WHAT I WAS TOLD IS
THAT DURING THE BIRTH,

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THE DOCTORS, THERE WAS AN
ERROR AND A MISTAKE MADE

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BY THE MEDICAL
PROFESSIONALS OF THAT DAY,

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WHERE THEY DAMAGED
THE OPTICAL NERVE.

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AND FOR THE
NEXT TWO YEARS,

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MY MOM TELLS ME THAT
I WAS PRETTY MUCH

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IN AND OUT OF HOSPITALS.


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I BARELY STAYED
IN THE HOUSE.

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I WAS IN THE
HOSPITAL, PRETTY MUCH.

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I WAS A HOSPITAL
BABY FOR TWO YEARS.

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AND I FOUND OUT
SOMETHING JUST RECENTLY

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WHERE ONE TIME -


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AND I KEPT GETTING
SICK ALL THE TIME,

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GETTING SICK.


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AND ONE TIME,
MY MOM TELLS ME

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THAT I DIED, WENT
TOTALLY BLUE.

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AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO
RUSH ME TO THE HOSPITAL,

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SO THEY JUST
STARTED TO DO

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WHAT THEY KNEW HOW TO DO.


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SO MY PASTOR NOW,
WHO IS MY UNCLE,

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HE WAS ALREADY IN
MINISTRY AT THE TIME.

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THEY GOT THE
FAMILY TOGETHER,

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AND JUST, THEY KNEW
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME

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TO TAKE ME TO
THE HOSPITAL,

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AND EMERGENCY SERVICES
WOULDN'T REACH

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THE VILLAGE IN TIME.


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THEY STARTED TO PRAY.


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AND I GUESS I STARTED
COUGHING AGAIN

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AND CAME BACK,
THE COLORS RETURNED.

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AND SO FOR TWO YEARS
I STRUGGLED WITH THAT.

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AND THEN THERE
WAS, I BELIEVE,

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A SENSE OF HEALING,


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I THINK THAT HAPPENED


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BECAUSE I STARTED TO GROW
WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS.

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BUT THE DAMAGE FROM
THE BIRTH DEFECT

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OR THE BIRTH INJURY
STILL AFFECTED ME.

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AND I STARTED TO
RECOGNIZE THAT LATER

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WHEN I WAS CALLED
MY NICKNAME

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IN SCHOOL IN THE UKRAINE,


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HAD TO DO WITH A
DEFORMITY OF THE EYE.

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SO THAT WAS REALLY MY NAME.


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THEY DIDN'T CALL ME VLAD.


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THEY DIDN'T CALL
ME VLADIMIR.

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THEY CALLED ME
WITH A NAME

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THAT I CAN'T EXACTLY
TRANSLATE IT,

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BUT IT HAD TO
WITH PRETTY MUCH,

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YOU'RE DEFORMED
BECAUSE OF YOUR EYE.

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AND SO THAT WAS MY NAME.


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THAT'S HOW I WAS CALLED.


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I THOUGHT THAT WAS NORMAL


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BECAUSE I LOOKED
IN THE MIRROR,

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I WAS LIKE, WELL, I
SEE WHAT THEY SEE, SO.

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MY PARENTS SAW THAT I HAD
THESE KIND OF INSECURITIES.

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THEY SCHEDULED THE
FIRST EYE SURGERY

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IN THE UKRAINE.


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AND SO I HAD THE SURGERY.


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IT DIDN'T DO MUCH


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BECAUSE I STILL
HAD THE SAME PROBLEM.

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AND THEN AROUND THAT TIME


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WE MOVED TO THE UNITED STATES.


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I WAS 13.


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IT WAS DECEMBER 6TH, 1999.


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AND RIGHT BEFORE THE
END OF THE WORLD,

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THE YEAR 2000.


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[ CHUCKLES ]


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VLADIMIR: AND MY
UNCLE STARTS A CHURCH

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SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT.


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AND I GO INTO THE
FRESHMAN HIGH SCHOOL

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IN THE UNITED STATES.


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AND I ABSOLUTELY, I
DON'T SPEAK ANY ENGLISH

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BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY
LEARNING GERMAN IN UKRAINE.

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FOR SOME WEIRD
REASON, YEAH,

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WE HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN
GERMAN AND ENGLISH.

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AND BECAUSE WE WERE
CLOSE TO GERMANY,

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SO I WAS LEARNING GERMAN.


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SO I ABSOLUTELY, I WAS
LEARNING ENGLISH

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ON MY WAY TO
THE UNITED STATES,

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LEARNING WHAT
COCA-COLA IS,

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OPEN THE DOOR,
THE TRAIN,

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YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY
THOSE, LIKE, VERY STRONG

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BRITISH ACCENTS.


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AND SO I WOULD
GO TO SCHOOL.

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AND I REALLY STRUGGLED
THE FIRST TWO YEARS

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JUST AS A TEENAGER
GROWING UP,

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BEING AWARE OF THE FACT
THAT I LOOKED DIFFERENT.

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I FEEL DIFFERENT.


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ALL OF THAT STUFF STARTED
TO KIND OF COME UPON ME.

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I WASN'T GOOD AT SCHOOL.


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I WAS, IN MY FRESHMAN,
I STARTED TO GET F'S

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BECAUSE OF MY ENGLISH.


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SO MY OTHER THOUGHT WAS


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TO FIND SOME SORT
OF FULFILLMENT

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IN A CHURCH ENVIRONMENT.


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I'M THINKING, IT'S NOT
GONNA BE DIFFICULT

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BECAUSE MY UNCLE
STARTED A CHURCH,

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THE CHURCH IS VERY SMALL,


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THERE'S ROOM FOR
EVERYBODY TO BE INVOLVED.

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AND, REBECCA, THE
INTERESTING PART IS THAT,

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I GET INVOLVED WHEN
THE ONLY THING

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THAT I COULD GET INVOLVED IN,


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AND THAT WAS THE
WORSHIP TEAM,

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AND I GET KICKED OUT.


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REBECCA: OH, NO.


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VLADIMIR: BY
MY OWN COUSINS.

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AND THEY WERE KIND,
THEY WERE MY FRIENDS.

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THEY'RE PART OF THE
PASTORAL TEAM NOW,

00:08:03.300 --> 00:08:04.767
BUT I JUST -


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THEY SAID AN ELEPHANT
STEPPED ON MY EAR.

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I WAS LIKE, HEY, GUYS,
I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ELEPHANT,

00:08:08.567 --> 00:08:09.634
NOBODY STEPPED ON MY EAR.


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THEY'RE LIKE, NO,
THAT'S A SAYING,

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SAYING THAT YOU
CAN'T KEEP A TUNE.

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AND I WAS LIKE,
WELL, I UNDERSTAND,

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BUT I DON'T HAVE LIKE -


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THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE
TO FIT IN IN THE CHURCH,

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AND CAN YOU JUST
KEEP ME THERE

00:08:21.233 --> 00:08:22.700
AND TURN OFF
MY MICROPHONE?

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THEY'RE LIKE,
WELL, ACTUALLY,

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YOUR MICROPHONE
HAS BEEN OFF.

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YOU'VE JUST BEEN
SINGING LOUDER.

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THE OTHER MICROPHONES
ARE CATCHING IT.

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AND SO WE JUST HAVE
TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE.

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AND SO I'M 13 AND A HALF,


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AND I'M FAILING IN SCHOOL,


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I HAVE CHRONIC
MIGRAINE HEADACHES

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BECAUSE OF THIS THING.


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I'M LITERALLY JUST
AWARE OF THE FACT

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THAT WHEN I LOOK
IN THE MIRROR,

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I SEE SOMETHING THAT
I HATE, I DESPISE,

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I DO NOT LIKE.


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AND THAT'S WHEN IT
REACHED A TIPPING POINT

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WHERE I DESPISED OF LIFE.


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I NEVER ATTEMPTED
TO TAKE MY LIFE,

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THERE WAS ENOUGH FEAR
OF GOD PUT INSIDE OF ME

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BY MY PENTECOSTAL
UPBRINGING

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THAT THAT WAS
NOT AN OPTION.

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BUT I SECRETLY
DESIRED TO DIE.

00:09:01.900 --> 00:09:04.233
AND I HOPED, I ASKED,


00:09:04.333 --> 00:09:08.566
I REMEMBER PRAYING FOR
THE LORD TO END MY LIFE,

00:09:08.666 --> 00:09:10.700
THAT I WILL NOT BE
A BURDEN TO ANYBODY.

00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:13.133
I JUST FELT LIKE I WAS
A BURDEN TO EVERYONE.

00:09:13.233 --> 00:09:14.933
REBECCA: WHICH IS
A TERRIBLE FEELING.

00:09:15.033 --> 00:09:16.067
VLADIMIR: AND
WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG,

00:09:16.167 --> 00:09:18.334
AND, YOU KNOW, NOBODY KIND
OF TALKS TO YOU ABOUT IT

00:09:18.434 --> 00:09:19.500
AND YOU'RE JUST KIND
OF PROCESSING

00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.366
ALL OF THAT BY YOURSELF,


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AND WHAT HELPED
ME WAS PRAYER.

00:09:24.867 --> 00:09:26.400
WHAT HELPED ME WAS PRAYER.


00:09:26.500 --> 00:09:29.533
I WOULD LOCK
MYSELF IN MY -

00:09:29.633 --> 00:09:32.167
THE HOUSE THAT
MY PARENTS HAD.

00:09:32.267 --> 00:09:34.300
AND AFTER SCHOOL, RIGHT
BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE DINNER,

00:09:34.400 --> 00:09:35.766
I WOULD LOCK MYSELF
FOR 35 MINUTES,

00:09:35.866 --> 00:09:37.434
30 TO 35 MINUTES,


00:09:37.534 --> 00:09:38.800
CRANK UP LOUD MUSIC


00:09:38.900 --> 00:09:40.433
JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T
WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR.

00:09:40.533 --> 00:09:41.633
I DIDN'T WANT MY FAMILY,


00:09:41.733 --> 00:09:45.434
JUST IN CASE, LISTEN IN TO
WHAT I WAS GOING THROUGH.

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AND I PROCESSED THAT
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT

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THE BEST I KNEW HOW.


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I WOULD TELL
HIM HOW I FELT.

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I'D TELL HIM THAT I
DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE,

00:09:52.433 --> 00:09:53.333
I DIDN'T HAVE A PURPOSE,


00:09:53.433 --> 00:09:54.133
I DIDN'T HAVE A MEANING.


00:09:54.266 --> 00:09:56.133
WHY DID HE CREATE
ME, ALL OF THAT.

00:09:56.233 --> 00:09:57.634
AND IT STARTED LIKE
THOSE PSALMS, YOU KNOW,

00:09:57.734 --> 00:09:58.433
YOU COMPLAIN.


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REBECCA: THE LAMENTS.


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VLADIMIR: LAMENTS.


00:10:00.466 --> 00:10:01.700
AND THEN YOU END.


00:10:01.800 --> 00:10:03.266
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
COMPLAINING IS LIKE VOMIT,

00:10:03.366 --> 00:10:04.634
YOU FEEL BETTER
AFTERWARDS.

00:10:04.734 --> 00:10:05.667
REBECCA: MM-HMM.


00:10:05.767 --> 00:10:07.233
VLADIMIR: AND YOU
FEEL, LIKE, RELIEVED.

00:10:07.333 --> 00:10:08.800
AND THEN IN THAT MOMENT,


00:10:08.900 --> 00:10:11.167
I WOULD FEEL THE PRESENCE
OF JESUS COMING IN.

00:10:11.267 --> 00:10:12.667
AND HE NEVER GAVE
ME AN EXPLANATION

00:10:12.767 --> 00:10:14.500
OF WHY CERTAIN
THINGS HAPPENED,

00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:15.733
BUT HE SHOWERED
ME WITH HIS LOVE,

00:10:15.833 --> 00:10:17.234
WITH HIS PRESENCE.


00:10:17.334 --> 00:10:18.634
AND WHAT STARTED TO
HAPPEN, REBECCA,

00:10:18.734 --> 00:10:21.034
IS I BECAME LESS
AWARE OF MYSELF,

00:10:21.134 --> 00:10:22.567
MORE AWARE OF
HIS PRESENCE.

00:10:22.667 --> 00:10:25.234
AND I WOULD WALK OUT OF
THAT ROOM FEELING CONFIDENT,

00:10:25.334 --> 00:10:26.634
FEELING SECURE,


00:10:26.734 --> 00:10:28.066
FEELING BETTER.


00:10:28.166 --> 00:10:30.800
IN FACT, LATER
ON I FOUND OUT,

00:10:30.900 --> 00:10:33.966
ADAM FELT ASHAMED
OF HIS BODY,

00:10:34.066 --> 00:10:36.000
THOUGH HE DIDN'T
GAIN WEIGHT.

00:10:36.100 --> 00:10:37.733
THERE WAS NOBODY
ELSE IN THE GARDEN

00:10:37.833 --> 00:10:39.333
THAT HE LOOKED AT AND
COMPARED HIMSELF AND SAID,

00:10:39.433 --> 00:10:41.934
OH, SHOOT, I DON'T
LOOK AS GOOD.

00:10:42.034 --> 00:10:45.066
WHEN HE LOST SIGHT
OF WHO GOD WAS,

00:10:45.166 --> 00:10:48.733
HE BECAME AWARE OF
WHO HE WAS NOT NOW.

00:10:48.833 --> 00:10:50.633
BECAUSE OUR
IDENTITY IS IN GOD.

00:10:50.733 --> 00:10:52.767
THE MOMENT WE TAKE
OUR EYES OFF OF HIM,

00:10:52.867 --> 00:10:54.967
WE WILL ALWAYS BEWARE
OF OUR NAKEDNESS.

00:10:55.067 --> 00:10:56.333
AND WE WILL FEEL ASHAMED.


00:10:56.433 --> 00:10:57.934
AND THAT'S WHAT THE LORD
STARTED TO TEACH ME

00:10:58.034 --> 00:10:59.366
RIGHT THERE IN THAT ROOM.


00:10:59.466 --> 00:11:01.167
HE SAYS, THERE'S
NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU.

00:11:01.267 --> 00:11:02.466
HE SAYS, YOU JUST HAVE
YOUR SKIN STRETCHED

00:11:02.566 --> 00:11:04.400
OVER YOUR SKELETON
IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

00:11:04.500 --> 00:11:05.834
BUT HE SAYS, YOU'RE
GONNA BE DUST.

00:11:05.934 --> 00:11:07.033
YOUR BODY CAME FROM DUST,


00:11:07.133 --> 00:11:08.766
YOU WILL RETURN TO DUST.


00:11:08.866 --> 00:11:10.900
HE SAYS, YOUR
PROBLEM IS INWARD.

00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.500
AROUND THAT TIME I HAD
THE SECOND EYE SURGERY,

00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:15.433
WHICH CONFIRMED AGAIN
THAT IT COULDN'T

00:11:15.533 --> 00:11:17.600
SOLVE MY PROBLEM.


00:11:17.700 --> 00:11:19.400
THE PRESENCE OF JESUS


00:11:19.500 --> 00:11:23.433
REDIRECTED MY ATTENTION
FROM MYSELF TO HIM.

00:11:23.533 --> 00:11:25.634
AND AS I STARTED TO
FOCUS MORE ON HIM,

00:11:25.734 --> 00:11:27.500
I LOST SIGHT OF ME.


00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.366
AND WHEN I LOST
SIGHT OF ME,

00:11:29.466 --> 00:11:30.766
I LOST THE SHAME.


00:11:30.866 --> 00:11:32.300
I LOST THE GUILT.


00:11:32.400 --> 00:11:34.200
I LOST THE HOPELESSNESS.


00:11:34.300 --> 00:11:36.300
I LOST THAT, I'LL
NEVER GET MARRIED.

00:11:36.400 --> 00:11:37.667
NOBODY WILL EVER LOVE ME.


00:11:37.767 --> 00:11:38.833
I DON'T HAVE A PURPOSE.


00:11:38.933 --> 00:11:41.867
NOW MY PURPOSE WAS, JESUS,
I WANT TO PLEASE YOU.

00:11:41.967 --> 00:11:44.000
THE BIBLE WENT FROM
A BOOK I READ,

00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:45.200
WHICH I READ A LOT OF IT,


00:11:45.300 --> 00:11:46.866
TO THE BOOK I EAT.


00:11:46.966 --> 00:11:48.367
IT BECAME MY
SPIRITUAL FOOD.

00:11:48.467 --> 00:11:49.567
I READ THOSE VERSES,


00:11:49.667 --> 00:11:50.967
FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY
YOU ARE MADE.

00:11:51.067 --> 00:11:52.400
LIKE THEY WERE
ADDRESSED TO ME.

00:11:52.500 --> 00:11:54.700
IT JUMPED, IT BECAME REAL.


00:11:54.800 --> 00:11:56.300
AND SHORTLY RIGHT
AFTER THAT,

00:11:56.400 --> 00:11:57.934
I STARTED TO GET
INVOLVED IN SCHOOL.

00:11:58.034 --> 00:11:59.900
MY GRADES - FIRST, MY GRADES
WENT UP THROUGH THE ROOF.

00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:01.800
I STARTED GETTING
STRAIGHT A'S.

00:12:01.900 --> 00:12:04.400
THE SAME SCHOOL,
OR SIMILAR SCHOOL,

00:12:04.500 --> 00:12:05.700
AND THINGS JUST CHANGED.


00:12:05.800 --> 00:12:08.300
I BECAME POPULAR
IN EACH CLASSROOM,

00:12:08.400 --> 00:12:09.400
BUT I WASN'T POPULAR
FOR ANYTHING,

00:12:09.500 --> 00:12:10.600
EXCEPT THEY CALLED
ME THE BIBLE BOY,

00:12:10.700 --> 00:12:11.567
OR THE LITTLE PASTOR,


00:12:11.667 --> 00:12:12.866
LIKE ALL KINDS OF
INTERESTING NAMES

00:12:12.966 --> 00:12:14.200
THAT THEY WOULD
LABEL ME WITH.

00:12:14.300 --> 00:12:16.566
I STARTED TO TELL MY
FRIENDS ABOUT JESUS.

00:12:16.666 --> 00:12:18.333
I STARTED TO PREACH
AT CHRISTIAN CLUBS

00:12:18.433 --> 00:12:19.366
IN MY HIGH SCHOOL.


00:12:19.466 --> 00:12:20.933
I DIDN'T EVEN
KNOW THEY EXISTED.

00:12:21.033 --> 00:12:22.000
THEY WOULD INVITE ME IN


00:12:22.100 --> 00:12:23.567
AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT,
I'M SPEAKING AT THAT

00:12:23.667 --> 00:12:25.400
CHRISTIAN CLUB
WITH BROKEN ENGLISH.

00:12:25.500 --> 00:12:28.000
I MEAN, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
HALF OF MY ENGLISH,

00:12:28.100 --> 00:12:29.333
BUT I WAS ALREADY
PREACHING.

00:12:29.433 --> 00:12:33.033
AT 16, MY UNCLE ASKED
ME TO BE A YOUTH PASTOR

00:12:33.133 --> 00:12:35.600
BECAUSE THE TWO PREVIOUS
YOUTH PASTORS QUIT.

00:12:35.700 --> 00:12:37.566
AND THAT IS KIND OF HOW
MY MINISTRY WAS BORN.

00:12:37.666 --> 00:12:39.967
IT WAS REALLY
BORN OUT OF PAIN.

00:12:40.067 --> 00:12:41.800
FINDING PURPOSE IN JESUS,


00:12:41.900 --> 00:12:42.800
AND SAYING TO JESUS,


00:12:42.900 --> 00:12:44.133
I'M GOING TO GIVE
YOU MY WHOLE LIFE.

00:12:44.233 --> 00:12:45.366
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER
YOU WANT WITH IT.

00:12:45.466 --> 00:12:46.133
SEND ME TO CHINA.


00:12:46.233 --> 00:12:46.766
SEND ME TO INDIA.


00:12:46.866 --> 00:12:47.933
SEND ME WHEREVER.


00:12:48.033 --> 00:12:50.200
SEND ME TO TEENAGERS
AND TO REACH TEENAGERS,

00:12:50.300 --> 00:12:51.733
WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.


00:12:51.833 --> 00:12:53.967
AND THE LORD
STARTED TO USE ME.

00:12:54.067 --> 00:12:56.166
REBECCA: AND THAT'S HOW
YOU'RE THE MOST EFFECTIVE

00:12:56.266 --> 00:12:58.267
IN THE SPIRIT IS IF YOU'RE
COMPLETELY SURRENDERING

00:12:58.367 --> 00:12:59.067
VLADIMIR: AND BROKEN.


00:12:59.167 --> 00:12:59.966
REBECCA: AND OBEDIENT.


00:13:00.066 --> 00:13:00.967
MM-HMM.


00:13:01.067 --> 00:13:03.200
AND WHAT SEEMED TO BE
THE GREATEST CURSE

00:13:03.300 --> 00:13:05.567
WITH THESE MIGRAINES,
THE EYE, THE PAIN,

00:13:05.667 --> 00:13:07.166
THE BULLYING,


00:13:07.266 --> 00:13:09.066
ENDED UP BEING ONE OF
THE GREATEST BLESSINGS

00:13:09.166 --> 00:13:11.500
BECAUSE IT PUSHED YOU INTO
THE ARMS OF THE FATHER.

00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:12.266
VLADIMIR: YES.


00:13:12.366 --> 00:13:13.567
REBECCA: AT
SUCH A YOUNG AGE

00:13:13.667 --> 00:13:16.000
THAT SET YOU UP FOR
THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

00:13:16.100 --> 00:13:17.700
VLADIMIR: YOU KNOW, EVERY
PROBLEM IS LIKE A KNIFE.

00:13:17.800 --> 00:13:19.167
YOU CAN TAKE IT
BY THE HANDLE

00:13:19.267 --> 00:13:20.434
OR BY THE BLADE.


00:13:20.534 --> 00:13:22.767
FOR 16 YEARS - FOR 14
YEARS OF MY LIFE,

00:13:22.867 --> 00:13:25.733
I TOOK WHATEVER HAPPENED
TO ME BY THE BLADE.

00:13:25.833 --> 00:13:26.966
WHY ARE YOU
DOING THIS TO ME?

00:13:27.066 --> 00:13:27.934
THIS IS NOT FAIR.


00:13:28.034 --> 00:13:29.900
AND I WAS ACTUALLY
HURTING MYSELF.

00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.967
AND WHEN THE LORD
SHIFTED EVERYTHING,

00:13:32.067 --> 00:13:34.567
I TOOK THE SAME THING
BY THE HANDLE NOW

00:13:34.667 --> 00:13:35.567
AND IT BECOMES A TOOL.


00:13:35.667 --> 00:13:36.400
IT BECOMES A WEAPON.


00:13:36.500 --> 00:13:37.700
AND I STARTED TO
REALIZE, WAIT,

00:13:37.800 --> 00:13:39.767
THESE FAILURES,
THEY'RE NOT FINAL.

00:13:39.867 --> 00:13:42.200
THEY WERE FERTILIZER
FOR MY DESTINY.

00:13:42.300 --> 00:13:44.667
AND FERTILIZER IS MANURE.


00:13:44.767 --> 00:13:47.333
IT STINKS BUT
IT'S NECESSARY

00:13:47.433 --> 00:13:48.800
TO FERTILIZE A GARDEN.


00:13:48.900 --> 00:13:51.066
REBECCA: AND IT'S NECESSARY TO
GO THROUGH THE WILDERNESS,

00:13:51.166 --> 00:13:52.700
THROUGH THE BREAKING,
THROUGH THE CRUSHING,

00:13:52.800 --> 00:13:54.333
BECAUSE THAT'S
WHAT FORTIFIES US.

00:13:54.433 --> 00:13:55.700
IT'S WHAT CHANGES US.


00:13:55.800 --> 00:13:57.234
AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAD
TO COME TO THAT PLACE

00:13:57.334 --> 00:13:59.133
OF TOTAL SURRENDER.


00:13:59.233 --> 00:14:00.900
YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING
I WANTED TO ASK YOU IS,

00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.366
DO YOU THINK WHEN
YOU TURNED TO GOD

00:14:03.466 --> 00:14:05.666
AND HE BEGAN INSTILLING
IDENTITY IN YOU,

00:14:05.766 --> 00:14:06.933
YOU STOPPED
VIEWING YOURSELF

00:14:07.033 --> 00:14:08.134
THE WAY THE WORLD
VIEWED YOU,

00:14:08.234 --> 00:14:10.667
AND YOU STARTED VIEWING
YOURSELF THE WAY HE SAW YOU,

00:14:10.767 --> 00:14:11.733
AND BECAUSE HE
LOOKED AT YOU

00:14:11.833 --> 00:14:12.933
AND HE SAID THERE'S
NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU,

00:14:13.033 --> 00:14:14.567
YOU WERE ABLE TO BELIEVE
THAT ABOUT YOURSELF,

00:14:14.667 --> 00:14:16.500
AND THEN LIVE THAT OUT?


00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.033
VLADIMIR: THE
LORD CHALLENGED ME.

00:14:18.133 --> 00:14:21.000
HE SAID, STOP LOOKING
AT THE BATHROOM MIRROR

00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:22.766
TO SEE WHO YOU ARE.


00:14:22.866 --> 00:14:25.233
HE SAID, LOOK IN THE
MIRROR OF MY WORD.

00:14:25.333 --> 00:14:27.033
BECAUSE THE
BIBLE SAYS THAT

00:14:27.133 --> 00:14:29.034
GOD MADE US IN HIS
IMAGE AND LIKENESS.

00:14:29.134 --> 00:14:31.200
OUR BODIES CAME FROM DIRT.


00:14:31.300 --> 00:14:33.434
WHO WE ARE CAME FROM GOD.


00:14:33.534 --> 00:14:36.733
SO OUR TRUE IDENTITY
IS NOT OUR BODY.

00:14:36.833 --> 00:14:39.200
OUR BODY IS THE
HOUSE WE LIVE IN.

00:14:39.300 --> 00:14:40.600
LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT
MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW,

00:14:40.700 --> 00:14:41.533
THAT'S NOT ME,


00:14:41.633 --> 00:14:42.733
IT'S WHERE I LIVE.


00:14:42.833 --> 00:14:44.200
IF YOU LOOK AT MY CAR,


00:14:44.300 --> 00:14:46.134
IT'S NOT ME, IT'S
WHAT I DRIVE.

00:14:46.234 --> 00:14:47.900
MY BODY IS A HOUSE.


00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.867
THE REAL PERSON LIVES
INSIDE OF THE HOUSE,

00:14:49.967 --> 00:14:51.266
AND IT'S THE SPIRIT.


00:14:51.366 --> 00:14:52.633
AND SO AS I STARTED
TO RECOGNIZE

00:14:52.733 --> 00:14:54.500
THAT I AM A SPIRIT,
NOT A BODY.

00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:55.600
I LIVE IN THE BODY.


00:14:55.733 --> 00:14:58.266
MINE JUST HAPPENS TO MISS
A FEW SHINGLES AND STUFF,

00:14:58.366 --> 00:15:00.300
BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
THE FACT THAT I CALL IT

00:15:00.400 --> 00:15:01.833
A FACTORY DEFECT.


00:15:01.933 --> 00:15:04.166
AND SO BUT ONCE WE
GET RESURRECTED,

00:15:04.266 --> 00:15:05.267
WE'RE GOING TO
GET NEW BODIES.

00:15:05.367 --> 00:15:06.366
THE LORD'S GONNA
GIVE US THAT.

00:15:06.466 --> 00:15:08.266
BUT UNTIL THAT
TIME, IT PUSHED ME

00:15:08.366 --> 00:15:10.100
TO BUILD MY IDENTITY
ON THE ROCK,

00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.033
ON JESUS AND
WHAT'S NOT VISIBLE.

00:15:12.133 --> 00:15:15.266
AND NOW, YOU KNOW,
WHEN I SEE BLESSINGS

00:15:15.366 --> 00:15:16.566
AND I SEE SUCCESS


00:15:16.666 --> 00:15:18.366
AND I SEE BREAKTHROUGH
IN MY MINISTRY,

00:15:18.466 --> 00:15:21.000
I CONSTANTLY
REMIND MYSELF, VLAD,

00:15:21.100 --> 00:15:23.400
YOU'RE NOT VALUED MORE


00:15:23.500 --> 00:15:24.900
BECAUSE YOU'RE
MORE VISIBLE.

00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:26.767
YOU'RE NOT LOVED MORE


00:15:26.867 --> 00:15:28.567
BECAUSE YOU'RE
MORE APPRECIATED.

00:15:28.667 --> 00:15:30.700
YOU'RE THE SAME GUY
THAT JESUS DIED FOR,

00:15:30.800 --> 00:15:31.867
HOLY SPIRIT INDWELLED,


00:15:31.967 --> 00:15:33.933
YOUR NAME IS WRITTEN
IN THE BOOK OF LIFE.

00:15:34.033 --> 00:15:35.833
WHETHER YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL
OR NOT SUCCESSFUL

00:15:35.933 --> 00:15:36.766
IN THE EYES OF PEOPLE.


00:15:36.866 --> 00:15:38.600
WHETHER YOU LOOK
GREAT, OR GOD FORBID,

00:15:38.700 --> 00:15:40.300
SOME INJURY HAPPENS


00:15:40.400 --> 00:15:41.367
AND I'M NOT ABLE
TO WALK ANYMORE

00:15:41.467 --> 00:15:43.300
AND I GET CARRIED
BY THE WHEELCHAIR,

00:15:43.400 --> 00:15:44.700
OR BECOME COMPLETELY
PARALYZED

00:15:44.800 --> 00:15:46.600
AND MY BODY IS
NOT FUNCTIONING.

00:15:46.700 --> 00:15:48.567
THE REAL ME IS STILL
CONNECTED TO THE LORD.

00:15:48.667 --> 00:15:49.500
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.200
HAVE YOU EVER HAD
THE TEMPTATION

00:15:51.300 --> 00:15:52.867
TO LOOK OUTWARD


00:15:52.967 --> 00:15:54.833
AND FORM YOUR
IDENTITY OFF OF THAT

00:15:54.933 --> 00:15:56.700
AS YOU'VE GROWN
IN SUCCESS?

00:15:56.800 --> 00:15:57.800
VLADIMIR: HONESTLY,
FOR ME,

00:15:57.900 --> 00:15:59.700
IT'S A CONSTANT STRUGGLE.


00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:01.934
I FEEL, EVEN WITH
THE INSECURITY,

00:16:02.034 --> 00:16:04.234
SOMETIMES IF I -


00:16:04.334 --> 00:16:05.967
IF I PULL AWAY
FROM THE LORD

00:16:06.067 --> 00:16:08.834
AND I LOOK IN THE
MIRROR TOO LONG,

00:16:08.934 --> 00:16:09.900
I BECOME AWARE.


00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:11.466
I'M LIKE, UHH.


00:16:11.566 --> 00:16:13.300
LIKE, PEOPLE LOOK AT
THIS ALL THE TIME?

00:16:13.400 --> 00:16:15.000
OR I EVEN LOOK AT MY
OWN VIDEOS SOMETIMES

00:16:15.100 --> 00:16:16.400
AND I WAS LIKE, OH,
I CAN'T LOOK AT THAT.

00:16:16.500 --> 00:16:18.000
REBECCA: IT'S HARD
WATCHING YOURSELF.

00:16:18.100 --> 00:16:20.000
VLADIMIR: YES, PLUS
IT'S HARD JUST WATCHING.

00:16:20.100 --> 00:16:21.666
BUT THEN I JUST
REMIND MYSELF,

00:16:21.766 --> 00:16:23.600
I SAY, VLAD,
YOU'VE GOT TO -

00:16:23.700 --> 00:16:25.600
WHEN I'M SUPER
AWARE OF ME,

00:16:25.700 --> 00:16:28.633
THAT TELLS ME I'M NOT
AWARE OF HIM RIGHT NOW.

00:16:28.733 --> 00:16:29.500
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:30.900
VLADIMIR: AND SO
THAT'S A TEMPTATION

00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.700
THAT I CONSTANTLY,


00:16:32.800 --> 00:16:35.867
I SAY THAT I KEEP
MYSELF IN THAT PLACE

00:16:35.967 --> 00:16:37.600
OF NOT ALLOWING IT.


00:16:37.700 --> 00:16:38.700
BUT TO SAY THAT
I NO LONGER

00:16:38.800 --> 00:16:39.734
EVER HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH IT,

00:16:39.834 --> 00:16:41.333
I WOULD BE LYING
IF I SAY THAT.

00:16:41.433 --> 00:16:42.600
REBECCA: I APPRECIATE
YOUR HONESTY, THOUGH,

00:16:42.700 --> 00:16:44.500
BECAUSE I THINK ALL
OF US ARE THERE

00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:46.867
AND WE LIVE IN AN AGE
THAT'S VERY LIKE,

00:16:46.967 --> 00:16:48.267
CAN BE SO NARCISSISTIC


00:16:48.367 --> 00:16:49.333
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE
SOCIAL MEDIA

00:16:49.433 --> 00:16:50.833
AND OUR FACE IS
ALWAYS OUT THERE.

00:16:50.933 --> 00:16:52.700
AND SO YOU CAN BE CONSTANTLY
LOOKING AT YOURSELF

00:16:52.800 --> 00:16:54.000
WITHOUT EVEN TRYING.


00:16:54.100 --> 00:16:55.900
AND SO IT'S A DISCIPLINE.


00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.700
AND IT'S A
TWO-EDGED SWORD.

00:16:57.800 --> 00:16:58.666
I'VE BEEN ON BOTH ENDS.


00:16:58.766 --> 00:17:00.433
I'VE HAD PRIDE AND
I'VE HAD INSECURITY.

00:17:00.533 --> 00:17:02.567
AND NEITHER OF THEM
ARE GOOD TO THE LORD.

00:17:02.667 --> 00:17:04.333
AND SO IT'S LIKE YOU
SHOULD NEVER PUT

00:17:04.433 --> 00:17:05.300
YOUR TRUST AND YOUR HOPE


00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:06.734
AND YOUR ABILITY
IN YOUR LOOKS,

00:17:06.834 --> 00:17:07.434
BECAUSE YOU'RE EITHER
GONNA THINK

00:17:07.534 --> 00:17:08.600
YOU'RE BETTER THAN PEOPLE,


00:17:08.700 --> 00:17:10.266
OR THERE'S GONNA BE
PEOPLE BETTER THAN YOU,

00:17:10.366 --> 00:17:11.967
AND YOU'RE GONNA
BE INSECURE.

00:17:12.067 --> 00:17:13.433
IT HAS TO BE IN HIM.


00:17:13.533 --> 00:17:15.600
AND IT'S A CONSTANT BATTLE
THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT.

00:17:15.700 --> 00:17:16.700
VLADIMIR: A
HUNDRED PERCENT.

00:17:16.800 --> 00:17:17.934
REBECCA: IT'S NOT JUST
A ONE-DAY TRANSFORMATION.

00:17:18.034 --> 00:17:19.633
IT'S A WALK THAT YOU WALK.


00:17:19.733 --> 00:17:20.600
AND THAT'S SOMETHING,


00:17:20.700 --> 00:17:22.734
WHAT I REALLY LOVE
THAT YOU TALK ABOUT,

00:17:22.834 --> 00:17:23.433
THAT I FEEL LIKE
NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE

00:17:23.533 --> 00:17:24.833
TALK ABOUT IN MINISTRY,


00:17:24.933 --> 00:17:26.634
BUT I THINK IS
LIKE SO IMPORTANT,

00:17:26.734 --> 00:17:29.233
ESPECIALLY FOR
US IN AMERICA,

00:17:29.333 --> 00:17:32.033
WHERE LIFE IS VERY EASY
COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES,

00:17:32.133 --> 00:17:35.300
IS THAT WE HAVE TO
CRUCIFY OUR FLESH.

00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:37.100
AND I THINK A LOT
OF US IN AMERICA

00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:39.700
ARE LIVING VERY
CARNAL LIVES

00:17:39.800 --> 00:17:41.766
WITHOUT EVEN REALIZING IT.


00:17:41.866 --> 00:17:44.600
AND SO, WHAT
WOULD YOU SAY

00:17:44.700 --> 00:17:46.167
TO THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE LISTENING,

00:17:46.267 --> 00:17:48.100
HOW DO YOU
CRUCIFY THE FLESH?

00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:49.234
VLADIMIR: I BELIEVE
THAT WE HAVE TO FIRST

00:17:49.334 --> 00:17:51.000
START FROM THE POINT


00:17:51.100 --> 00:17:54.434
WHERE OUR OLD MAN
HAS BEEN CRUCIFIED.

00:17:54.534 --> 00:17:56.333
BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS
VERY CLEAR ON THAT,

00:17:56.433 --> 00:17:58.366
THAT ON THE CROSS,
TWO THINGS HAPPENED.

00:17:58.466 --> 00:18:01.333
THE BLOOD WAS
SHED FOR OUR SINS.

00:18:01.433 --> 00:18:05.033
THE CROSS HAPPENED
FOR OUR SIN.

00:18:05.133 --> 00:18:07.500
THE SIN IS THAT OLD MAN,


00:18:07.600 --> 00:18:12.167
IT'S THE SIN NATURE THAT
WE INHERITED THROUGH BIRTH.

00:18:12.267 --> 00:18:14.000
I CALL IT THE SPIDER.


00:18:14.100 --> 00:18:16.533
SINS ARE THE WEB.


00:18:16.633 --> 00:18:18.800
AND SO ON THE CROSS
JESUS SPILLED HIS BLOOD

00:18:18.900 --> 00:18:21.100
TO TAKE CARE OF MY SINS.


00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:24.400
BUT ON THE CROSS,
HE TOOK MY SIN,

00:18:24.500 --> 00:18:27.900
HE TOOK ME, AND HE
NAILED ME ON THE CROSS.

00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.933
SO MY SINS HE WASHED ME,


00:18:30.033 --> 00:18:31.134
HE KILLED.


00:18:31.234 --> 00:18:35.033
WHICH MEANS THE OLD
ME IS BEYOND REPAIR.

00:18:35.133 --> 00:18:36.534
IT CAN'T BE FIXED.


00:18:36.634 --> 00:18:38.767
IT ONLY HAS TO BE KILLED.


00:18:38.867 --> 00:18:41.533
IT'S NOT SOMETHING
I DO FIRST.

00:18:41.633 --> 00:18:43.233
IT'S SOMETHING HE DID,


00:18:43.333 --> 00:18:47.033
WHICH MEANS ALL THE
SELF-CRUCIFYING I DO,

00:18:47.133 --> 00:18:48.700
HAS TO COME OUT
OF THE PLACE

00:18:48.800 --> 00:18:51.466
OF ME BEING DEAD.


00:18:51.566 --> 00:18:53.500
NOT TRYING TO DIE.


00:18:53.600 --> 00:18:55.067
REBECCA: OH,
THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.

00:18:55.167 --> 00:18:56.233
VLADIMIR: SO THAT
CHANGES EVERYTHING.

00:18:56.333 --> 00:18:58.567
BECAUSE THE SAME
THING WITH SALVATION.

00:18:58.667 --> 00:19:01.500
WE DO GOOD WORKS,
NOT TO BE SAVED.

00:19:01.600 --> 00:19:03.933
WE DO GOOD WORKS
BECAUSE WE ARE SAVED.

00:19:04.033 --> 00:19:05.533
AND SO THAT REVELATION
REALLY CHANGED

00:19:05.633 --> 00:19:07.300
MY PERSPECTIVE ON DISCIPLINE.


00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:09.100
BECAUSE IF WE'RE
NOT CAREFUL,

00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.233
WE CAN EXALT DISCIPLINE


00:19:11.333 --> 00:19:13.600
AND CRUCIFYING OURSELVES


00:19:13.700 --> 00:19:16.633
ABOVE THE REVELATION
OF THE BIBLICAL TRUTH.

00:19:16.733 --> 00:19:19.667
AND THEN WE RENDER
THE CROSS POWERLESS.

00:19:19.767 --> 00:19:22.300
IT'S NOT MY CROSS
THAT CHANGES ME.

00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.834
IT'S HIS CROSS THAT
ENABLES ME NOW

00:19:24.934 --> 00:19:26.600
TO GET ON THE CROSS,


00:19:26.700 --> 00:19:27.867
AND SEEING CHANGE
IN MY LIFE.

00:19:27.967 --> 00:19:29.466
AND SO I START
FROM THE POINT

00:19:29.566 --> 00:19:31.567
THAT MY OLD MAN, ACCORDING
TO THE SCRIPTURES,

00:19:31.667 --> 00:19:33.000
GALATIANS CHAPTER
3, VERSE 20,

00:19:33.100 --> 00:19:35.733
I HAVE BEEN CRUCIFIED
WITH CHRIST.

00:19:35.833 --> 00:19:37.200
THE BIBLE SAYS
THAT I WAS -

00:19:37.300 --> 00:19:38.433
THAT'S WHY WE
GET BAPTIZED.

00:19:38.533 --> 00:19:40.433
TO IDENTIFY
WITH HIS DEATH,

00:19:40.533 --> 00:19:41.800
BURIAL AND RESURRECTION.


00:19:41.900 --> 00:19:42.700
WE LIVE IN A
CULTURE TODAY

00:19:42.800 --> 00:19:43.800
WHERE A MAN
IDENTIFIES AS A WOMAN.

00:19:43.900 --> 00:19:46.634
WHERE A MAN IDENTIFIES
AS THIS AND THAT.

00:19:46.734 --> 00:19:48.500
AND I THINK AS CHRISTIANS,
WE HAVE TO REALIZE,

00:19:48.600 --> 00:19:50.833
WE'RE IDENTIFIED
WITH SOMETHING.

00:19:50.933 --> 00:19:52.967
AND SOME PEOPLE SAY,
WELL, VLAD, THAT'S NOT -

00:19:53.067 --> 00:19:56.133
THAT'S NOT REAL BECAUSE
I DON'T FEEL DEAD.

00:19:56.233 --> 00:19:57.500
BUT THE CROSS IS REAL.


00:19:57.600 --> 00:19:58.200
REBECCA: MM-HMM.


00:19:58.300 --> 00:19:59.133
VLADIMIR:
DEATH IS REAL.

00:19:59.233 --> 00:20:00.600
SO WHAT WE IDENTIFY WITH


00:20:00.700 --> 00:20:02.400
IS WITH JESUS' DEATH,
BURIAL AND RESURRECTION.

00:20:02.500 --> 00:20:04.834
THAT MEANS MY
OLD MAN IS DEAD.

00:20:04.934 --> 00:20:07.800
OUT OF THE PLACE OF
THAT REVELATION,

00:20:07.900 --> 00:20:09.600
NOW I GO TO, NUMBER ONE,


00:20:09.700 --> 00:20:10.933
WALKING IN THE
HOLY SPIRIT

00:20:11.033 --> 00:20:13.034
SO WE DON'T FULFILL
THE LUST OF THE FLESH.

00:20:13.134 --> 00:20:14.134
THAT'S WHY PAUL
KEEPS SAYING,

00:20:14.234 --> 00:20:15.500
PRESENT YOUR MEMBERS
AS INSTRUMENTS

00:20:15.600 --> 00:20:16.400
OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.


00:20:16.500 --> 00:20:18.033
DO NOT LET SIN
REIGN IN YOUR BODY.

00:20:18.133 --> 00:20:19.267
SO I WALK IN THE
HOLY SPIRIT

00:20:19.367 --> 00:20:20.467
OUT OF THAT REVELATION,


00:20:20.567 --> 00:20:22.967
MY OLD MAN IS DEAD.


00:20:23.067 --> 00:20:24.467
SINS HAVE BEEN
WASHED BY THE BLOOD.

00:20:24.567 --> 00:20:27.433
AND THIRDLY, IS THIS IS
WHAT I PUT TO DEATH,

00:20:27.533 --> 00:20:29.267
THE DESIRES AND THE
LUST OF THE FLESH,

00:20:29.367 --> 00:20:31.033
AND I CRUCIFY THE OLD MAN.


00:20:31.133 --> 00:20:32.300
THAT MEANS, IN
OTHER WORDS,

00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:33.933
TO LIVE A
DISCIPLINED LIFE.

00:20:34.033 --> 00:20:35.800
NOT FOR THE SAKE OF
DISCIPLINED LIFE.

00:20:35.900 --> 00:20:36.900
BECAUSE WE LIVE IN
A CULTURE OF

00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.100
A LOT OF NEW AGERS,


00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:39.633
WHO ARE SUPER DISCIPLINED.


00:20:39.733 --> 00:20:41.334
PEOPLE WAKE UP AT 4
O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING,

00:20:41.434 --> 00:20:42.800
THEY GO TO THE GYM,
THEY'RE DISCIPLINED.

00:20:42.900 --> 00:20:44.734
BUT THEY'RE NOT CLOSER
TO JESUS BECAUSE OF THAT.

00:20:44.834 --> 00:20:46.366
OUR DISCIPLINE
DOESN'T FLOW,

00:20:46.466 --> 00:20:49.466
OR SELF-DENIAL DOESN'T
FLOW OUT OF OUR DESIRE

00:20:49.566 --> 00:20:51.033
TO BE DISCIPLINED.


00:20:51.133 --> 00:20:53.234
IT'S OUT OF OUR
DESIRE TO PLEASE HIM.

00:20:53.334 --> 00:20:54.600
THE ANALOGY OR
THE ILLUSTRATION

00:20:54.700 --> 00:20:56.600
THAT I LIKE TO USE FOR
PEOPLE IS THIS.

00:20:56.700 --> 00:20:57.966
INSTEAD OF
CONSTANTLY LOOKING,

00:20:58.066 --> 00:21:00.066
WHAT SHOULD I CUT
OFF IN MY LIFE,

00:21:00.166 --> 00:21:02.800
WE SHOULD BE PASSIONATELY
PURSUING JESUS

00:21:02.900 --> 00:21:05.400
AND WHATEVER HINDERS
THAT PURSUIT

00:21:05.500 --> 00:21:06.900
NEEDS TO BE CLIPPED;


00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:08.100
NEEDS TO BE TRIMMED;


00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:09.067
NEEDS TO BE KILLED;


00:21:09.167 --> 00:21:10.633
NEEDS TO BE LAID ASIDE.


00:21:10.733 --> 00:21:12.300
SO MY GOAL ISN'T TO LOOK
AT MY LIFE AND SAY,

00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.100
WHAT IS IN MY LIFE WRONG?


00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:15.200
NO.


00:21:15.300 --> 00:21:17.566
I'M LOOKING AT JESUS,
RUNNING AFTER HIM HARD,

00:21:17.666 --> 00:21:20.667
AND I'M NOTICING, MY SHOES
DON'T FEEL REALLY GOOD.

00:21:20.767 --> 00:21:22.266
THAT MEANS I NEED
TO REPLACE THEM.

00:21:22.366 --> 00:21:23.400
I'M CARRYING
TOO MUCH WEIGHT.

00:21:23.500 --> 00:21:24.900
THE BIBLE SAYS AS
WE RUN THE RACE

00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:26.400
TO LAY DOWN EVERY SIN,


00:21:26.500 --> 00:21:27.434
AND EVERY WEIGHT.


00:21:27.534 --> 00:21:29.500
AND SO AS I BEGIN TO
PURSUE AFTER JESUS,

00:21:29.600 --> 00:21:30.700
AND I WATCH THE TV SHOW,


00:21:30.800 --> 00:21:32.367
AND NOW THERE'S
A CONVICTION,

00:21:32.467 --> 00:21:33.566
I HAVE TO REMOVE THAT.


00:21:33.666 --> 00:21:35.067
I'LL NEVER FEEL
THE CONVICTION

00:21:35.167 --> 00:21:36.200
IF I DON'T PURSUE JESUS.


00:21:36.300 --> 00:21:37.800
I'LL FEEL CONDEMNATION


00:21:37.900 --> 00:21:39.200
IF I DON'T PURSUE JESUS.


00:21:39.300 --> 00:21:40.500
AND THEN I'LL BE CONFUSED


00:21:40.600 --> 00:21:41.900
AND I'LL FALL
INTO LEGALISM

00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.100
INSTEAD OF HOLINESS.


00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:44.800
HOLINESS IS A
DIRECT RESULT

00:21:44.900 --> 00:21:46.800
OF PASSIONATELY
PURSUING JESUS

00:21:46.900 --> 00:21:49.633
AND REMOVING THINGS THAT
THE BIBLE IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT,

00:21:49.733 --> 00:21:52.834
AND THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT
BECOMES VERY CLEAR ABOUT.

00:21:52.934 --> 00:21:53.867
HE JUST DOESN'T
GIVE YOU PEACE.

00:21:53.967 --> 00:21:54.934
HE DOESN'T GIVE YOU REST.


00:21:55.034 --> 00:21:56.433
OTHER CHRISTIANS
ARE DOING IT,

00:21:56.533 --> 00:21:56.833
BUT YOU ARE
NOT ALLOWED TO.

00:21:56.933 --> 00:21:57.633
WHY?


00:21:57.733 --> 00:21:58.666
BECAUSE YOU'RE A RUNNER,


00:21:58.766 --> 00:22:00.800
AND SOME OF THEM ARE
SITTING ON THE SIDELINES.

00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:01.767
REBECCA: THAT IS -


00:22:01.867 --> 00:22:03.434
THAT IS SUCH A
GOOD EXPLANATION.

00:22:03.534 --> 00:22:04.667
VLADIMIR: THANK YOU.


00:22:04.767 --> 00:22:06.900
REBECCA: YOU KNOW, IT'S LIVING
FROM THAT REVELATION,

00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:08.834
IT'S UNDERSTANDING
WHO THE SOURCE IS.

00:22:08.934 --> 00:22:09.667
VLADIMIR: YES.


00:22:09.767 --> 00:22:10.667
REBECCA: IT'S NOT
SOMETHING YOU DO

00:22:10.767 --> 00:22:11.633
OUT OF YOUR OWN WORKS.


00:22:11.733 --> 00:22:13.066
IT'S NOT SOMETHING
YOU CAN DO YOURSELF.

00:22:13.166 --> 00:22:14.067
ONE OF THE GREATEST
REVELATIONS

00:22:14.167 --> 00:22:15.700
GOD HAD TO TEACH ME,


00:22:15.800 --> 00:22:17.700
WHEN I WAS IN BIBLE
SCHOOL HE SAID,

00:22:17.800 --> 00:22:19.467
EVERYTHING YOU NEED
FOR LIFE AND MINISTRY

00:22:19.567 --> 00:22:22.033
WILL COME FROM YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH ME.

00:22:22.133 --> 00:22:24.167
SO FOCUS ON YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH ME.

00:22:24.267 --> 00:22:25.067
AND WHAT HE'S
HAD TO TEACH ME,

00:22:25.167 --> 00:22:26.566
IS HE IS MY SOURCE.


00:22:26.666 --> 00:22:27.400
VLADIMIR: COME ON.


00:22:27.500 --> 00:22:28.400
REBECCA: AND
IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.

00:22:28.500 --> 00:22:30.467
AND I STILL MESS UP.


00:22:30.567 --> 00:22:31.434
VLADIMIR: IT'S HARD.


00:22:31.534 --> 00:22:33.033
REBECCA: IN THIS AREA,
BECAUSE WE WANT TO

00:22:33.133 --> 00:22:35.000
PICK IT UP
AND DO IT OURSELVES.

00:22:35.100 --> 00:22:36.033
AND THAT'S EVEN
WITH, LIKE,

00:22:36.133 --> 00:22:37.166
OH, I NEED TO
CRUCIFY MY FLESH.

00:22:37.266 --> 00:22:39.267
WELL, IF YOU'RE DOING IT
FROM YOUR OWN WISDOM,

00:22:39.367 --> 00:22:40.700
THAT'S NOT THE LORD.


00:22:40.800 --> 00:22:44.067
AND THEN IT'S
DEPENDING ON YOURSELF.

00:22:44.167 --> 00:22:45.767
VLADIMIR: BECAUSE
WE CAN MAKE AN IDOL

00:22:45.867 --> 00:22:47.267
OUT OF CRUCIFYING
OUR FLESH.

00:22:47.367 --> 00:22:48.300
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.500
VLADIMIR: AND I DID
40 DAY WATER FASTS.

00:22:50.600 --> 00:22:53.300
I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO,


00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.067
YOU KNOW, WE JUST
GAVE NINE MONTHS AGO,

00:22:56.167 --> 00:22:57.434
ALL OF OUR SAVINGS AGAIN


00:22:57.534 --> 00:22:59.066
AND I STEPPED AWAY
FROM THE CHURCH SALARY

00:22:59.166 --> 00:23:02.500
GIVING THE CHURCH SALARY
FOR THE LAST 11 MONTHS

00:23:02.600 --> 00:23:04.033
UNTIL WE MOVE INTO
A NEW BUILDING.

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I BELIEVE IN
DEATH TO SELF.

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I BELIEVE CHRISTIAN LIFE
IS A CRUCIFIED LIFE,

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NOT A CARNAL LIFE.


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BUT WHERE IT FALLS INTO
LEGALISM OR SECULAR,

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WHERE IT BECOMES
A BURDEN,

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BECAUSE JESUS' YOKE
IS LIGHT AND IS EASY.

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IF THIS WHOLE SELF-DENIAL
CARRIES NO JOY,

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AND IT WILL NEVER CARRY
JOY IF WE'RE TRYING TO

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EARN THE PLACE OF
DEATH TO OUR FLESH

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INSTEAD OF OPERATING
FROM THE PLACE

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OF DEATH TO OUR OLD MAN.


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AND I REMEMBER WHEN
THE LORD CALLED ME

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TO DO AN EXTENDED FAST.


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WE WERE DOING
A 21-DAY FAST

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AND THE SIXTH
DAY OF FASTING

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THE HOLY SPIRIT
PROMPTED ME.

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AND HE SAYS, I WANT YOU
TO GO 40 DAYS ON WATER.

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I SAID, JESUS,
I'M GONNA DIE.

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I FELT LIKE THE
HOLY SPIRIT SAID,

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HE SAYS, WELL, THAT'S
EXACTLY THE POINT.

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I WANT YOU TO, OF COURSE
NOT PHYSICALLY, DIE.

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AND I SAID, I WON'T
HAVE THE STRENGTH.

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I DON'T THINK
I CAN MAKE IT.

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AND IT WASN'T ME
TRYING TO PROVE

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OR EVEN CRUCIFY ANYTHING.


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IT WAS MORE OF ME
FOLLOWING THE LORD

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IN THAT.


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THE LORD NOT ONLY GAVE ME
THE STRENGTH TO COMPLETE IT,

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BUT IT WASN'T MY IDOL


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BECAUSE I DIDN'T
OPERATE -

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LIKE JESUS, HE DIDN'T GO
INTO THE WILDERNESS

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FOR A 40-DAY FAST


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TO EARN THE ANOINTING
OR THE POWER.

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HE CAME OUT OF A PLACE OF


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YOU'RE MY BELOVED SON,


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AND YOU ARE WELL PLEASED.


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WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA FAST


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OR NOT GOING TO FAST.


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AND ONCE WE REACHED
THAT PLACE,

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I FEEL LIKE IT GIVES THIS
HEALTHY, HOLY MOTIVATION

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TO CUT THOSE THINGS OFF.


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TURN OFF THAT TV SHOW.


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CUT THOSE HABITS.


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EVEN CUT THOSE FRIENDS.


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BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
DOING IT TO EARN IT,

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WE'RE DOING IT OUT
OF THE RESPONSE,

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EVEN THE SCRIPTURE
WHERE PAUL SAYS

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TO PRESENT OUR BODIES
AS LIVING SACRIFICES.

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HE SAYS, NOW, BRETHREN.


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SO HE SPEAKS FOR
TEN CHAPTERS OR SO

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ABOUT THE MERCY OF GOD,


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THE GRACE OF GOD.


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AND HE SAYS NOW YOUR
RESPONSE IS TO THIS,

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TO LIVE A CRUCIFIED,
SACRIFICIAL LIFE.

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AND PEOPLE WHO
PROPAGATE GREASY GRACE

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AND PRETTY MUCH SAYS THAT
IF YOU HAVE THE GRACE OF GOD

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YOU DON'T NEED
TO DO ANYTHING,

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AND WHO BELITTLE THE
HOLINESS OF GOD,

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IT BELITTLES
GOD'S CHARACTER.

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IT BELITTLES WHO GOD IS.


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BECAUSE WITHOUT HOLINESS,
NO MAN CAN SEE GOD.

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WE CANNOT ASCEND THE
HILL OF THE LORD

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WITHOUT A PURE HEART
AND CLEAN HANDS.

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AND SO BUT GOD GIVES
US THE RIGHT WAY

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TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.


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LETTING JESUS TAKE
CARE OF OUR SINS

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AND KILL THAT OLD MAN


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AND NOW GOD GIVES
US A PROPER PROCESS.

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IT'S OUT OF THE PLACE OF
DEATH, KILL THE FLESH.

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REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

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AND LIKE YOU WERE
SAYING, THE JOY.

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AND IT WAS LIKE THE REASON
WHY THESE BELIEVERS

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IN THE NEW TESTAMENT COULD
UNDERGO SUCH PERSECUTION

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IS BECAUSE THEY HAD
THAT REVELATION

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AND IT PROPELLED THEM AND
THEY HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT,

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AND HE PROPELLED
THEM FORWARD THROUGH.

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AND PAUL, IT'S LIKE
HE HAD THE REVELATION

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UNDERSTANDING WHY HE WAS
IN THE DIFFERENT PRISONS

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HE WAS IN.


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HE UNDERSTAND
THE PURPOSE,

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AND THAT JOY -


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IN ONE OF MY FAVORITE
VERSES IT SAYS,

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JESUS, FOR THE JOY THAT
WAS SET BEFORE HIM,

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HE SCORNED THE -


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VLADIMIR: SCORNING.


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REBECCA: YEAH. HE
ENDURED SUFFERING

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SCORNING THE CROSS -


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OR SCORNING ITS SHAME,


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ENDURED THE CROSS,
SCORNING ITS SHAME.

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AND SO IT WAS
BECAUSE OF THAT JOY,

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HE WAS ABLE TO ENDURE
SUCH SUFFERING.

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AND, YOU KNOW,
ONE OF THINGS IS,

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IS THAT MINISTRY IS NOT
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

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MINISTRY SHOULD FLOW FROM
YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

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AND ONE OF THE
THINGS I LEARNED,

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BECAUSE FOR ME, I WAS IN
WILDERNESS FOR SO LONG,

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SO I HAD RELATIONSHIP
FOR SO LONG

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WITHOUT ANY MINISTRY.


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AND I JUST AM
STARTING TO GET

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LIKE MINISTRY EXPERIENCE.


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AND WHAT WAS
INTERESTING FOR ME,

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WAS SEEING HOW YOU
CAN LOVE MINISTRY,

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AND I FINALLY BEGAN
TO UNDERSTAND,

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I GET WHY PEOPLE IN
MINISTRY LOVE MINISTRY

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AND THEY CAN MISS
RELATIONSHIP.

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BUT IF YOU TRY TO BE -


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I CAN'T EVEN -


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I CAN'T EVEN GO VERY LONG.


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I JUST GET ALL THE
LIFE SUCKED OUT OF ME.

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BUT IF YOU TRY
TO DO MINISTRY

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WITHOUT RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD,

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I COULDN'T LAST.


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VLADIMIR: BURNOUT.


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REBECCA: IT'S
TOTAL BURNOUT.

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VLADIMIR:
TOTAL BURNOUT.

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BECAUSE MINISTRY,
UNLIKE ANY OTHER WORK,

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YOU HAVE PRESSURE
FROM YOUR POSITION,

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PAIN FROM PEOPLE,


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PUSHBACK FROM DEMONS.


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OTHER JOBS DON'T
GIVE YOU THAT.

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AND THEN YOU HAVE PERSONAL
FLAWS THAT BEGIN TO SURFACE,

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AND YOU PUT THESE
FOUR THINGS TOGETHER,

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IT'S A RECIPE
FOR DISASTER

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RIGHT THERE AND THEN.


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AND I THINK THAT TO
DO MINISTRY

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WITHOUT THE RELATIONSHIP
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,

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ONE TIME THE
LORD REMINDED ME

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OF THE STORY OF
ESTHER AND VASHTI.

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YOU KNOW, VASHTI
WAS COMMANDED

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BY HER HUSBAND, KING,


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TO COME INTO HIS PRESENCE.


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SHE DIDN'T.


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BECAUSE THE BIBLE
SAYS SHE WAS BUSY

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WITH THE FEAST
FOR THE WOMEN.

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SHE WASN'T DOING ANYTHING
ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL.

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SHE WAS SIMPLY BUSY WITH
A MINISTRY TO THE WOMEN.

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REBECCA: OH, WOW.


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VLADIMIR: AND BECAUSE
OF THAT, SHE DIDN'T GO

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INTO THE PRESENCE
OF THE KING

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WHEN HE COMMANDED HER.


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NOW, SHE NEVER STOPPED
BEING HIS CONCUBINE.

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SHE STOPPED
BEING HIS BRIDE.

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BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T
VALUE HIS PRESENCE

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MORE THAN SHE
VALUED THE PALACE.

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SHE LOVED THE PALACE.


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SHE LOVED THE BUSYNESS
MORE THAN SHE LOVED

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HIS PRESENCE.


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ESTHER COMES ON THE SCENE.


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SHE DOESN'T GET
INVITED, BUT SHE GOES.

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FOR 30 DAYS, THERE
WAS NO INVITATION.

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AND ESTHER GOES, IT
ALMOST COST HER LIFE.

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SHE LEADS WOMEN
TO FAST, AND MEN.

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AND ESTHER NEVER
LOSES HER CROWN.

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SHE SAVES HER NATION.


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AND I FELT THE LORD
CHALLENGE ME AND HE SAYS,

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BE ESTHER, NOT VASHTI.


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HE SAYS WHEN
I PROMPT YOU,

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WHEN I DRAW YOU
INTO MY PRESENCE,

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DON'T MAKE EXCUSES.


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LAZINESS, LOSING BATTLE
WITH THE BLANKETS,

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BECAUSE YOU'LL STILL
REMAIN IN MINISTRY.

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YOU'LL JUST LOSE THE LAMP.


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YOU'LL LOSE THE
SPIRITUAL INFLUENCE.

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YOU'LL BE LIKE SAUL.


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HE STILL HAD THE POSITION.


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WHEN THE
ANOINTING LIFTED,

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THIS POSITION
TORMENTED HIM.

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LIKE SAMSON.


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HE STILL REMAINED
A JUDGE,

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BUT WITHOUT THE
ANOINTING NOW,

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HE WAS HURT BY THE VERY
CALLING THAT HE HAD.

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IN FACT, SAUL AND SAMSON,


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BOTH DIED IN BATTLES
WITH PHILISTINES.

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AND IF YOU READ THEIR
STORY CAREFULLY,

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YOU'LL SEE THEY WERE
ANOINTED TO CONQUER THEM.

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MEANING THE PLACE
OF THEIR CALLING

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BECAME THEIR FUNERAL.


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BECAUSE WE ALWAYS
REMAIN IN OUR POSITIONS

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BECAUSE WE HAVE
JOBS THERE.

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WE HAVE
RESPONSIBILITIES THERE.

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PEOPLE EXPECT US.


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BUT WHEN WE LOSE
THAT INTIMACY,

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THAT PLACE OF OUR CALLING
BECOMES OUR GRAVEYARD.

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IT SUCKS LIFE OUT OF US.


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IT DESTROYS US.


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AND WE BEGIN TO GET HURT.


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AND IF WE ARE SOMEHOW


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SUPER TALENTED, GIFTED
OR CHARISMATIC,

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WE WILL STOP
BEING THE SALT,

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WE'LL BECOME THE SUGAR.


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REBECCA: OH, GOSH.


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VLADIMIR: BECAUSE
SALT IS THIS.

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WHEN YOU HAVE SALT,
YOU WANT WATER.

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WHEN YOU HAVE SUGAR,
YOU WANT SUGAR.

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REBECCA: YEAH,
YOU WANT MORE.

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VLADIMIR: YOU
WANT MORE OF SUGAR.

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WHEN WE DON'T HAVE
INTIMACY WITH GOD

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AND WE'RE SOMEHOW
GIFTED AND TALENTED

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AND WE'RE LIKE,
I DON'T NEED THAT,

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PEOPLE FALL IN
LOVE WITH US,

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THEY NO LONGER FALL
IN LOVE WITH JESUS.

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REBECCA: OH, GOSH.


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VLADIMIR: AND
WHEN WE LEAVE -

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REBECCA: IT'S TRUE.


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VLADIMIR: WHEN WE
LEAVE, SO DO THEY.

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REBECCA: THAT'S TRUE.


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WHEN YOU BUILD IT
AROUND A PERSON.

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VLADIMIR: BECAUSE IT'S
BUILT AROUND A PERSON.

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AND WHY IS IT BUILT
AROUND THE PERSON?

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BECAUSE THE PERSON HAS
NOT BUILT THEIR LIFE

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AROUND THE PRESENCE.


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REBECCA: AND THEN
THEY ALLOW THE MINISTRY

00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.434
TO FEED THEIR OWN EGO.


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VLADIMIR: YES.


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AND SO IN THEIR GIFT
AND THEIR TALENT

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GIVEN BY GOD,


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TURNS THEM FROM A SAUL.


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THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES
WHEN PEOPLE COME UP,

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AND THEY'RE LIKE, MAN,
I LOVE YOUR PREACHING,

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AND I CANNOT GET ENOUGH
OF YOUR PREACHING.

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.167
THAT SCARES ME.


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REBECCA: RIGHT.


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VLADIMIR: BECAUSE MY DESIRE
IS WHEN SOMEBODY LISTENS,

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THAT THEY FALL IN
LOVE MORE WITH JESUS.

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BECAUSE I'M THE
SALT OF THE EARTH,

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I'M NOT THE SUGAR
OF THE EARTH.

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THAT MEANS YOU
SHOULDN'T DEVELOP

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APPETITE AND
DESIRE FOR VLAD.

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THE REAL GENUINE
ANOINTING UPON MY LIFE

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IS FOR PEOPLE TO FAST
MORE, PRAY MORE,

00:30:14.734 --> 00:30:16.300
SEE GOD MORE,
LIVE MORE HOLY,

00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:17.233
LOVE JESUS MORE.


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REBECCA: GET
CLOSER TO GOD.

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VLADIMIR: BECAUSE
WE NEED TO BE SALT,

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NOT SUGAR.


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BUT WE CANNOT BE SALT


00:30:22.867 --> 00:30:24.167
IF WE LOSE OUR SALTINESS.


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OUR SALTINESS
IS ONLY FOUND

00:30:25.566 --> 00:30:26.634
IN THAT INTIMACY.


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REBECCA: I
WILL SAY, THOUGH,

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THAT I THINK ONE
OF THE REASONS,

00:30:30.300 --> 00:30:31.567
BECAUSE I WAS IN
THIS POSITION

00:30:31.667 --> 00:30:33.367
WHEN I WAS IN BIBLE SCHOOL,


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I HAD NEWLY COME
BACK TO THE LORD,

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AND I HAD THESE LIKE
INCREDIBLE PROFESSORS

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THAT WERE, I MEAN,
SPIRIT-FILLED,

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GREAT TEACHERS, SO
A SIMILAR THING.

00:30:40.733 --> 00:30:44.633
AND I LOVED THEM AND I
WANTED THEIR APPROVAL.

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AND I THINK WHAT I
HAD TO LEARN IS,

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I SAW, YOU KNOW, I THINK
GOD ALLOWED ME TO SEE

00:30:52.234 --> 00:30:54.300
THEIR NOT SO PERFECT SIDE.


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AND I'M SO GLAD,
BECAUSE I FELT LIKE

00:30:56.300 --> 00:30:57.867
WHAT THE LORD TAUGHT
ME THROUGH THAT IS,

00:30:57.967 --> 00:31:01.833
IS ANYTHING I DO
THROUGH SOMEONE,

00:31:01.933 --> 00:31:03.967
THAT'S ME,
THAT'S NOT THEM.

00:31:04.067 --> 00:31:05.367
THAT'S MY LOVE FOR YOU.


00:31:05.467 --> 00:31:07.200
THEY'RE JUST THE VESSEL.


00:31:07.300 --> 00:31:08.733
BUT I THINK AS PEOPLE,


00:31:08.833 --> 00:31:10.800
ESPECIALLY YOUNG
BELIEVERS IN THE FAITH,

00:31:10.900 --> 00:31:13.800
IS WE SEE EASIER
WITH OUR PHYSICAL

00:31:13.900 --> 00:31:15.067
THAN THE SPIRITUAL EYES.


00:31:15.167 --> 00:31:16.900
AND SO I THINK IT'S
ALSO KIND OF LIKE

00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:18.100
AN IMMATURITY THING,


00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:19.200
A YOUNG BELIEVER THING,


00:31:19.300 --> 00:31:20.734
WHERE IT'S LIKE, OH, THIS
PERSON'S IN FRONT OF ME,

00:31:20.834 --> 00:31:22.300
AND BECAUSE THEY
SEE YOU PHYSICALLY,

00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.133
THEY LOVE YOU.


00:31:24.233 --> 00:31:26.367
AND IT'S LIKE,
NO, LOVE THE ONE.

00:31:26.467 --> 00:31:27.900
AND I THANK GOD
FOR THE LORD.

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.300
THAT'S WHY EXACTLY
WHAT YOU SAY IS,

00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.100
WE NEED TO PUSH
PEOPLE TOWARDS GOD.

00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:32.200
AND THAT'S WHAT -


00:31:32.300 --> 00:31:33.067
VLADIMIR: I THINK GOD USES
PASTORS, PREACHERS,

00:31:33.167 --> 00:31:34.700
PROFESSORS AND PARENTS


00:31:34.800 --> 00:31:36.967
TO GUIDE US TO THE LORD.


00:31:37.067 --> 00:31:38.633
I THINK THAT SOMETIMES
BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID,

00:31:38.733 --> 00:31:41.133
OF IMMATURITY AND
WE'RE STILL GROWING,

00:31:41.233 --> 00:31:42.800
WE GET SUPER
ATTACHED TO THEM

00:31:42.900 --> 00:31:43.900
AT THE BEGINNING STAGES


00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.867
AND THE LORD CAUSES
THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN

00:31:45.967 --> 00:31:47.667
AND THEY DO SHAKE OUR
FAITH A LITTLE BIT.

00:31:47.767 --> 00:31:48.700
ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT
HAPPENED WITH

00:31:48.800 --> 00:31:50.167
SOME OF THE MINISTERS.


00:31:50.267 --> 00:31:51.900
I HAD SOME YOUNG PEOPLE
COME UP AND THEY'RE LIKE,

00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.633
MAN, I FOLLOW THIS
PERSON AND I FIND OUT,

00:31:53.733 --> 00:31:55.267
YOU KNOW, THEY FELL
INTO THIS SCANDAL.

00:31:55.367 --> 00:31:56.700
THEY'RE LIKE, MAN,
HOW DO I PROCESS THAT?

00:31:56.800 --> 00:31:58.366
AND I WOULD TELL THEM, WE
WOULD GO TO THE GARDEN,

00:31:58.466 --> 00:32:00.500
I WOULD SAY, I WANT YOU TO
TAKE THE GARDEN GLOVES,

00:32:00.600 --> 00:32:01.900
PUT THEM ON.


00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.434
I SAID EVERY MAN
OF GOD IS A GLOVE.

00:32:04.534 --> 00:32:05.700
GOD IS THE HAND.


00:32:05.800 --> 00:32:08.133
AND I WAS LIKE, USE
THESE GLOVES LONG ENOUGH,

00:32:08.233 --> 00:32:09.167
THEY'LL RIP.


00:32:09.267 --> 00:32:10.000
WHY?


00:32:10.100 --> 00:32:10.934
BECAUSE THEY'RE
NOT PERMANENT.

00:32:11.034 --> 00:32:12.567
THEY'RE NOT -


00:32:12.667 --> 00:32:14.900
THEY'RE MADE OF CLOTH
AND THEY DON'T LAST.

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.066
THAT'S WHAT MEN AND
WOMEN OF GOD ARE.

00:32:17.166 --> 00:32:18.400
THEY'RE MEN AND
WOMEN FIRST

00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:20.033
BEFORE THEY'RE OF GOD.


00:32:20.133 --> 00:32:22.433
AND I WAS LIKE, JUST
BECAUSE THE GLOVE RIPS,

00:32:22.533 --> 00:32:24.467
IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYTHING
YOU DID USING THAT GLOVE,

00:32:24.567 --> 00:32:26.800
YOU HAVE TO GO
NOW AND UNDO.

00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:28.400
IT JUST SIMPLY MEANS
THE GLOVE RIPS,

00:32:28.500 --> 00:32:29.467
BUT THE HAND
IS STILL THERE.

00:32:29.567 --> 00:32:31.833
AND I WAS LIKE, GOD IS
STILL USING PEOPLE,

00:32:31.933 --> 00:32:33.666
BUT GOD USES
IMPERFECT PEOPLE.

00:32:33.766 --> 00:32:34.934
AND I THINK
SOONER OR LATER,

00:32:35.034 --> 00:32:36.834
ALL OF US WHO
ARE BELIEVERS,

00:32:36.934 --> 00:32:39.367
WE MUST UNDERSTAND
THESE MINISTRIES EXIST

00:32:39.467 --> 00:32:40.767
TO PROPEL OUR
WALK WITH GOD.

00:32:40.867 --> 00:32:42.266
THEY DON'T EXIST
TO REPLACE

00:32:42.366 --> 00:32:43.366
OUR WALK WITH GOD.


00:32:43.466 --> 00:32:44.666
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:32:44.766 --> 00:32:46.300
AND EVERYONE
MAKES MISTAKES.

00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:47.400
VLADIMIR: INDEED.


00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:48.367
REBECCA: AND
THE THING IS,

00:32:48.467 --> 00:32:49.767
IS THAT YOU HAVE TO
COME TO A PLACE,

00:32:49.867 --> 00:32:52.900
WHERE YOUR HOPE IS NOT
IN PEOPLE, IT'S IN GOD.

00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.733
AND I THINK ONE OF
THE MOST COMMON

00:32:54.833 --> 00:32:55.766
TACTICS OF THE ENEMY,


00:32:55.866 --> 00:32:57.400
IS HE WANTS TO GET
PEOPLE OFFENDED.

00:32:57.500 --> 00:32:59.300
HE WANTS PEOPLE TO PUT
THEIR HOPE IN PEOPLE

00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:00.867
AND LEADERSHIP,


00:33:00.967 --> 00:33:02.366
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN
THEY MAKE A MISTAKE,

00:33:02.466 --> 00:33:03.633
THEY'LL TURN
AND WALK AWAY.

00:33:03.733 --> 00:33:04.967
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S
SO IMPERATIVE THAT WE,

00:33:05.067 --> 00:33:06.233
LIKE YOU SAID,


00:33:06.333 --> 00:33:08.900
GET PEOPLE TO HAVE A SOLID
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.934
NOW THAT I'M 31,


00:33:11.034 --> 00:33:13.300
I'VE HAD ENOUGH THINGS
HAPPEN IN MY LIFE,

00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.000
THINGS I NEVER
WOULD ANTICIPATE

00:33:15.100 --> 00:33:16.533
THAT REALLY SHOOK ME.


00:33:16.633 --> 00:33:19.634
AND IF I HAD NOT MADE
GOD MY FOUNDATION -

00:33:19.734 --> 00:33:21.234
YOU KNOW, AFTER
MY DAD PASSED

00:33:21.334 --> 00:33:23.467
THAT CAUSED SO
MUCH TRANSITION.

00:33:23.567 --> 00:33:26.266
AND I JUST REMEMBER,


00:33:26.366 --> 00:33:27.533
IT WAS HARD.


00:33:27.633 --> 00:33:29.066
BUT I WAS ABLE TO WALK
THROUGH THAT SEASON

00:33:29.166 --> 00:33:31.467
AND I THINK ABOUT HOW
EVERY DIFFICULT SEASON

00:33:31.567 --> 00:33:34.067
LEADING UP TO THAT,
PREPARED ME FOR THAT MOMENT.

00:33:34.167 --> 00:33:35.400
BUT I WAS ABLE TO WALK
THROUGH THAT MOMENT

00:33:35.500 --> 00:33:37.233
AND THE SCRIPTURE
THAT CAME TO ME WAS,

00:33:37.333 --> 00:33:40.067
IF A MAN BUILT HIS
HOUSE ON THE SAND,

00:33:40.167 --> 00:33:41.800
THE STORM WILL COME AND
IT WILL BE WIPED AWAY.

00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:44.300
BUT IF A MAN BUILDS
HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK,

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.400
THE STORMS WILL COME AND
THE HOUSE WILL STAND.

00:33:47.500 --> 00:33:48.767
AND WHAT I FELT LIKE
THE LORD SHOWED ME IS

00:33:48.867 --> 00:33:50.500
YOU HAVE BUILT
YOUR LIFE ON ME.

00:33:50.600 --> 00:33:51.867
SO ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE,


00:33:51.967 --> 00:33:54.300
BECAUSE YOU THINK LIKE
FOR EXAMPLE YOUR PARENTS,

00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.500
WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
LIKE YOUR SPIRITUAL COVERING.

00:33:57.600 --> 00:33:59.333
MY DAD WAS LIKE
A MAN OF GOD.

00:33:59.433 --> 00:34:01.800
SO IT'S LIKE,
AND HE WAS YOUNG.

00:34:01.900 --> 00:34:03.300
HE WAS LIKE 64.


00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.267
SO WHEN YOU'RE NOT
ANTICIPATING SOMETHING,

00:34:05.367 --> 00:34:06.767
AND WHEN SOMETHING HAS
BEEN SO CONSTANT

00:34:06.867 --> 00:34:07.733
YOUR WHOLE LIFE,


00:34:07.833 --> 00:34:09.566
HE WAS MY DAD, YOU
KNOW, MY WHOLE LIFE,

00:34:09.666 --> 00:34:11.633
WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST
CLOSEST RELATIONSHIPS

00:34:11.733 --> 00:34:13.100
YOU'LL HAVE.


00:34:13.200 --> 00:34:17.834
BUT IF MY FAITH HAD
BEEN BUILT ON HIM,

00:34:17.934 --> 00:34:20.933
WHEN HE PASSED, I WOULD
HAVE FALLEN APART.

00:34:21.033 --> 00:34:22.167
BUT BECAUSE, THANK GOD,


00:34:22.267 --> 00:34:24.400
MY LIFE HAS BEEN
BUILT ON GOD,

00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:25.500
IT DOESN'T MATTER.


00:34:25.600 --> 00:34:27.200
AND WHEN I WALKED
THROUGH THAT I WAS LIKE,

00:34:27.300 --> 00:34:29.800
LORD, I MEAN, I'M NOT
ASKING FOR ANY TRIALS,

00:34:29.900 --> 00:34:31.800
I KNOW THEY'RE
GONNA COME,

00:34:31.900 --> 00:34:33.067
BUT IT GAVE ME
SUCH ENCOURAGEMENT

00:34:33.167 --> 00:34:34.167
AND HOPE FOR THE FUTURE


00:34:34.267 --> 00:34:36.133
BECAUSE I REALIZED
GOD HAS ME.

00:34:36.233 --> 00:34:37.933
AND HE'S GONNA CARRY
ME THROUGH EVERYTHING.

00:34:38.033 --> 00:34:40.334
AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT, WHEN
YOU LIVE ENOUGH LIFE,

00:34:40.434 --> 00:34:41.666
AND ONE THING'S FOR
SURE ABOUT LIFE,

00:34:41.766 --> 00:34:44.000
IT'S GONNA CHANGE
AND IT'S A LOT.

00:34:44.100 --> 00:34:45.100
VLADIMIR: AND
THESE CHANGES,

00:34:45.200 --> 00:34:46.400
THEY BRING A
LOT OF STRESS.

00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:49.633
YOU KNOW, I'VE EXPERIENCED
AT THE AGE OF NINE,

00:34:49.733 --> 00:34:50.700
THERE WERE THREE OF US,


00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:52.200
I CALL THEM
THREE MUSKETEERS.

00:34:52.300 --> 00:34:54.767
WE WERE LIVING ON
THE SAME STREET.

00:34:54.867 --> 00:34:56.334
AND MY NEIGHBOR HAD A -


00:34:56.434 --> 00:34:58.800
ONE OF MY BEST
FRIENDS HAD A HOUSE,

00:34:58.900 --> 00:35:00.000
AND HE HAD THIS SWING.


00:35:00.100 --> 00:35:04.067
BUT IT WAS LIKE THIS
MILITARY GRADE METAL SWING,

00:35:04.167 --> 00:35:06.667
TWO PEOPLE SIT
ON BOTH SIDES.

00:35:06.767 --> 00:35:08.733
IT'S LIKE GROUNDED
IN CONCRETE.

00:35:08.833 --> 00:35:09.900
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:11.067
VLADIMIR: AND
IT'S LIKE THEY -

00:35:11.167 --> 00:35:14.233
IN UKRAINE, THEY MAKE
THEM PRETTY, PRETTY HEAVY.

00:35:14.333 --> 00:35:15.567
AND SO YOU CAN
GO UP AND DOWN,

00:35:15.667 --> 00:35:17.266
PRETTY MUCH SWING
REALLY HIGH.

00:35:17.366 --> 00:35:18.600
SO WE'RE ON OUR
WAY TO SCHOOL,

00:35:18.700 --> 00:35:20.433
NINE YEARS OF AGE,


00:35:20.533 --> 00:35:22.367
AND I'M SITTING ON THE
SWING, HE'S STANDING,

00:35:22.467 --> 00:35:25.667
AND THE SWING HAS
THIS METAL BIG BEAM

00:35:25.767 --> 00:35:27.267
THAT HOLDS THAT SWING


00:35:27.367 --> 00:35:29.667
AND IT'S THIS MUCH SPACE
BETWEEN THE CONCRETE

00:35:29.767 --> 00:35:31.300
AND THE SWING.


00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.400
AND WE'RE SWAPPING.


00:35:33.500 --> 00:35:34.567
AND WE WERE SWINGING
REALLY HIGH.

00:35:34.667 --> 00:35:38.234
AND AS I'M SITTING
DOWN, HE'S GETTING UP.

00:35:38.334 --> 00:35:41.433
AND HE FALLS, AND
THE SWING COMES BACK.

00:35:41.533 --> 00:35:42.534
AND RIGHT IN
FRONT OF MY EYES,

00:35:42.634 --> 00:35:44.100
HALF OF HIS SKULL...


00:35:44.200 --> 00:35:45.300
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.


00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:46.367
VLADIMIR: AT
NINE YEARS OF AGE.

00:35:46.467 --> 00:35:48.334
SO I LOST MY BEST FRIEND.


00:35:48.434 --> 00:35:50.100
I MEAN, I WAS -


00:35:50.200 --> 00:35:53.133
I WAS NUMB FOR
LIKE TWO WEEKS.

00:35:53.233 --> 00:35:55.067
AND -


00:35:55.167 --> 00:35:56.733
REBECCA: AND YOU
WITNESSED HIS DEATH.

00:35:56.833 --> 00:35:58.100
VLADIMIR: RIGHT
IN FRONT OF MY EYES.

00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:00.233
AND THE CRAZIEST PART
IS WE WERE SWITCHING.

00:36:00.333 --> 00:36:01.733
IT COULD HAVE BEEN MINE.


00:36:01.833 --> 00:36:05.200
SO TO PROCESS ALL OF
THESE EMOTIONS OF

00:36:05.300 --> 00:36:07.934
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ME,


00:36:08.034 --> 00:36:09.133
HE JUST DIED.


00:36:09.233 --> 00:36:10.233
I MEAN WE HAD BACKPACKS,


00:36:10.333 --> 00:36:12.400
WE WERE GOING TO SCHOOL.


00:36:12.500 --> 00:36:14.600
THAT JUST SHOOK
ME TO THE CORE.

00:36:14.700 --> 00:36:16.600
BECAUSE I HAD A
CHRISTIAN FOUNDATION,

00:36:16.700 --> 00:36:17.933
I KNEW WHERE HE WENT.


00:36:18.033 --> 00:36:20.367
AND IT ACTUALLY BROUGHT
MORE OF A REALIZATION

00:36:20.467 --> 00:36:22.434
BECAUSE I LIVED
WITH THIS REALITY,

00:36:22.534 --> 00:36:23.700
I WILL DIE AT -


00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.367
AFTER 70, I'LL BE
THINKING ABOUT DEATH.

00:36:26.467 --> 00:36:28.333
FROM THAT POINT ON,
I REALIZED, REBECCA,

00:36:28.433 --> 00:36:29.733
THAT DEATH WALKS,


00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.733
PHYSICAL DEATH WALKS
WITH ME EVERY SECOND.

00:36:31.833 --> 00:36:32.967
IT COULD HAPPEN
ANY MOMENT

00:36:33.067 --> 00:36:34.400
AND I HAVE TO BE
READY ANY MOMENT

00:36:34.500 --> 00:36:35.534
TO BE WITH THE LORD.


00:36:35.634 --> 00:36:36.600
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:36:36.700 --> 00:36:37.633
VLADIMIR: AND THAT GOD
IS WITH ME WHEN THOSE,

00:36:37.733 --> 00:36:39.434
LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WHEN
THOSE THINGS HAPPEN,

00:36:39.534 --> 00:36:40.433
HE IS WITH ME.


00:36:40.533 --> 00:36:41.400
HE DOESN'T ABANDON ME.


00:36:41.500 --> 00:36:42.466
HE DOESN'T LEAVE ME.


00:36:42.566 --> 00:36:43.567
THAT'S WHY DAVID SAYS,
THOUGH I WALK THROUGH

00:36:43.667 --> 00:36:45.234
THE VALLEY OF THE
SHADOW OF DEATH,

00:36:45.334 --> 00:36:46.433
YOU KNOW, YOU ARE WITH ME.


00:36:46.533 --> 00:36:47.367
JUST BECAUSE
YOU ARE WITH ME

00:36:47.467 --> 00:36:49.000
DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T
GO THROUGH THEM.

00:36:49.100 --> 00:36:51.000
SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN
WE'RE YOUNG BELIEVERS,

00:36:51.100 --> 00:36:52.833
WE THINK THAT BECAUSE
HE'S WITH ME,

00:36:52.933 --> 00:36:54.633
HIS ROD AND STAFF
COMFORT ME,

00:36:54.733 --> 00:36:55.933
I'LL NEVER GO
THROUGH THE FIRE,

00:36:56.033 --> 00:36:57.633
I'LL NEVER GO THROUGH
THE LOSS OF A FRIEND.

00:36:57.733 --> 00:36:58.700
I WILL NEVER GO
THROUGH THE LOSS

00:36:58.800 --> 00:36:59.866
OF A RELATIONSHIP.


00:36:59.966 --> 00:37:03.467
EVERYTHING WILL ALWAYS
WORK OUT LIKE IN THE MOVIES.

00:37:03.567 --> 00:37:05.367
EVERYTHING WORKS OUT.


00:37:05.467 --> 00:37:07.500
BUT THAT'S NOT THE PICTURE
OF CHRISTIAN FAITH.

00:37:07.600 --> 00:37:09.933
OUR COMMANDER AND
CHIEF, JESUS CHRIST,

00:37:10.033 --> 00:37:11.734
HAS SCARS IN HIS HANDS,


00:37:11.834 --> 00:37:13.400
SCARS IN HIS FEET
AND IN HIS SIDE.

00:37:13.500 --> 00:37:15.167
WHICH TELLS US -


00:37:15.267 --> 00:37:17.200
AND HE PROMISES, ONE
OF THE PROMISES -

00:37:17.300 --> 00:37:19.667
NOBODY LIKES TO QUOTE
THAT IN THIS WORLD

00:37:19.767 --> 00:37:21.266
YOU WILL HAVE TRIBULATION.


00:37:21.366 --> 00:37:22.200
BUT HE SAYS THIS.


00:37:22.300 --> 00:37:23.234
BE OF GOOD CHEER.


00:37:23.334 --> 00:37:24.367
HE DOESN'T SAY
BE DEPRESSED,

00:37:24.467 --> 00:37:25.433
BE DEBBIE THE DOWNER.


00:37:25.533 --> 00:37:27.433
HE SAYS, NO, BE
OF GOOD CHEER.

00:37:27.533 --> 00:37:29.033
I HAVE OVERCOME
THIS WORLD.

00:37:29.133 --> 00:37:30.766
MEANING, I'M
BUILDING WITHIN YOU

00:37:30.866 --> 00:37:33.133
TO BE A STRONG MAN
AND A WOMAN OF GOD.

00:37:33.233 --> 00:37:34.767
SO WHATEVER THAT
YOU GO THROUGH,

00:37:34.867 --> 00:37:36.300
YOU'RE NOT GOING
TO GET STUCK IN.

00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.666
YOU WILL GET REFINED
BUT NOT DEFINED

00:37:38.766 --> 00:37:40.167
BY THOSE PROBLEMS.


00:37:40.267 --> 00:37:41.167
YOU WILL GET PURIFIED.


00:37:41.267 --> 00:37:43.000
YOU KNOW, MY FAITH,
OUR FAITH,

00:37:43.100 --> 00:37:45.300
IS NOT LIKE PAPER
THAT BURNS

00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.134
WHEN IT GOES
THROUGH THE FIRE.

00:37:47.234 --> 00:37:49.333
OUR FAITH, THE BIBLE
SAYS, IS LIKE GOLD.

00:37:49.433 --> 00:37:50.633
GOLD BECOMES
MORE PRECIOUS.

00:37:50.733 --> 00:37:52.033
IT BECOMES MORE PURE.


00:37:52.133 --> 00:37:53.167
IT BECOMES MORE VALUABLE


00:37:53.267 --> 00:37:54.167
WHEN IT GOES
THROUGH THE FIRE.

00:37:54.267 --> 00:37:55.466
AND SO I THINK SOME
PEOPLE NEED TO -

00:37:55.566 --> 00:37:57.267
OUR FEELINGS
ARE LIKE PAPER.

00:37:57.367 --> 00:37:59.033
THEY GO IN FLAMES QUICKLY.


00:37:59.133 --> 00:38:00.067
SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS,


00:38:00.167 --> 00:38:01.634
WHERE IS GOD, WHY IS
THIS HAPPENING TO ME?

00:38:01.734 --> 00:38:03.467
YOU KNOW, OUR SOUL
SOMETIMES FEELS THAT.

00:38:03.567 --> 00:38:05.867
THAT'S WHY DAVID, MANY
TIMES, SPOKE TO HIS SOUL.

00:38:05.967 --> 00:38:07.133
YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T
LIVE IN HIS SOUL,

00:38:07.233 --> 00:38:08.300
HE TOLD HIS SOUL,


00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.000
HEY, COME ON, LET'S
WORSHIP THE LORD.

00:38:10.100 --> 00:38:10.900
REBECCA: HE
COMMANDED HIS SOUL.

00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:11.933
VLADIMIR: HE
COMMANDED HIS SOUL.

00:38:12.033 --> 00:38:13.334
HE SAID, BLESS THE
LORD, O MY SOUL.

00:38:13.434 --> 00:38:15.700
AND MANY BELIEVERS,
WHAT THEY DO IS,

00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:16.867
THEY LIVE IN THEIR SOUL.


00:38:16.967 --> 00:38:18.300
SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH
THESE SEASONS,

00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:19.533
YOU LIVE IN YOUR SOUL,


00:38:19.633 --> 00:38:22.667
SO YOUR SOUL TELLS YOU ALL
OF THESE VERSIONS ABOUT GOD.

00:38:22.767 --> 00:38:23.767
GOD LEFT YOU.


00:38:23.867 --> 00:38:24.700
WHERE IS GOD IN ALL THIS?


00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:26.167
WHAT ARE THE
PROPHETIC WORDS?

00:38:26.267 --> 00:38:27.567
WELL, YOU PRAYED FOR
YOUR MOM BUT SHE DIED.

00:38:27.667 --> 00:38:28.767
YOU PRAYED FOR THIS.


00:38:28.867 --> 00:38:29.966
WELL, DROP YOUR
FAITH IN EVERYTHING.

00:38:30.066 --> 00:38:31.633
SO STOP LISTENING
TO YOUR SOUL.

00:38:31.733 --> 00:38:33.166
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN
TO THE LORD

00:38:33.266 --> 00:38:34.700
AND LIVE OUT
OF YOUR SPIRIT

00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:35.966
AND THEN LEAD YOUR SOUL


00:38:36.066 --> 00:38:38.634
IN THESE VERY DIFFICULT
VICISSITUDES OF LIFE,

00:38:38.734 --> 00:38:39.967
TRANSITIONS OF LIFE,


00:38:40.067 --> 00:38:43.267
KNOWING THAT YOU WILL GET
THROUGH ON THE OTHER SIDE

00:38:43.367 --> 00:38:44.300
AND WHEN YOU WALK
THROUGH THE VALLEY

00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:45.167
OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH,


00:38:45.267 --> 00:38:46.134
YOU'LL COME TO A PLACE


00:38:46.234 --> 00:38:47.367
WHERE YOUR CUP
IS RUNNING OVER,

00:38:47.467 --> 00:38:48.500
WHERE YOU'RE SITTING
IN THE PRESENCE

00:38:48.600 --> 00:38:49.600
OF YOUR ENEMIES,


00:38:49.700 --> 00:38:50.534
GOODNESS AND MERCY
FOLLOWS YOU

00:38:50.634 --> 00:38:51.567
ALL THE DAYS OF YOUR LIFE.


00:38:51.667 --> 00:38:54.000
IT'S LIKE A FRESH
SEASON, A NEW SEASON,

00:38:54.100 --> 00:38:55.600
AND ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT.


00:38:55.700 --> 00:38:57.600
REBECCA: AND ONE OF THE BEST
THINGS ABOUT THE STORMS,

00:38:57.700 --> 00:38:59.800
BESIDES THE PROCESS THAT
GOD DOES WITHIN YOU,

00:38:59.900 --> 00:39:01.700
THE REFINING,
THE FORTIFYING,

00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:03.734
IS THE INTIMACY THAT
YOU CAN HAVE WITH HIM.

00:39:03.834 --> 00:39:04.667
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


00:39:04.767 --> 00:39:05.600
REBECCA: BECAUSE
THERE'S JUST SOMETHING

00:39:05.700 --> 00:39:06.566
ABOUT HIM WALKING WITH YOU


00:39:06.666 --> 00:39:07.767
THROUGH SOMETHING
VERY DIFFICULT,

00:39:07.867 --> 00:39:09.166
AND HIM BEING
THE ONE PERSON

00:39:09.266 --> 00:39:10.366
YOU CAN COUNT ON.


00:39:10.466 --> 00:39:13.700
THE ONE PERSON THAT WILL
ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU,

00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:15.200
RELATE TO YOU,
MINISTER TO YOU,

00:39:15.300 --> 00:39:16.534
EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED


00:39:16.634 --> 00:39:18.033
EXACTLY WHEN YOU NEED IT.


00:39:18.133 --> 00:39:19.034
I JUST THINK ABOUT ALL
THE DIFFERENT THINGS

00:39:19.134 --> 00:39:20.866
GOD HAS DONE FOR ME.


00:39:20.966 --> 00:39:22.867
AND IT JUST BRINGS
YOU SO CLOSE.

00:39:22.967 --> 00:39:24.167
IT'S LIKE HOW
YOU ARE WITH -

00:39:24.267 --> 00:39:25.500
YOU KNOW, WE'RE
BOTH MARRIED.

00:39:25.600 --> 00:39:26.900
SO WITH OUR
SPOUSES, IT'S LIKE,

00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.933
YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO THEM


00:39:29.033 --> 00:39:30.867
BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE YOU
IN A COVENANT WITH THEM,

00:39:30.967 --> 00:39:33.267
BUT IT'S LIKE YOU
DO LIFE TOGETHER.

00:39:33.367 --> 00:39:35.400
AND WHEN YOU WALK WITH
SOMEONE THROUGH DIFFICULTY,

00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:37.633
YOU ARE CLOSER
THAN, YOU KNOW,

00:39:37.733 --> 00:39:40.400
JUST THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
ENJOY THE GOOD TIMES WITH.

00:39:40.500 --> 00:39:41.634
VLADIMIR: A
HUNDRED PERCENT.

00:39:41.734 --> 00:39:43.834
I THINK DISCOVERING
DIFFERENT FACETS

00:39:43.934 --> 00:39:46.800
OF GOD'S CHARACTER
IN THOSE MOMENTS.

00:39:46.900 --> 00:39:48.967
ABRAHAM DID NOT KNOW
GOD, JEHOVAH JIREH,

00:39:49.067 --> 00:39:51.733
UNTIL HE HAD TO LAY
HIS SON ON THE ALTAR.

00:39:51.833 --> 00:39:53.634
AND THEN HE MET
JEHOVAH JIREH,

00:39:53.734 --> 00:39:55.600
THE LORD WHO
PROVIDES A SACRIFICE.

00:39:55.700 --> 00:39:57.600
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED
THE LILY OF THE VALLEY -

00:39:57.700 --> 00:39:58.934
THAT'S ONE OF THE
NAMES OF GOD -

00:39:59.034 --> 00:40:00.567
UNTIL WE'RE IN THE VALLEY.


00:40:00.667 --> 00:40:02.200
REBECCA: THAT'S
A REALLY GOOD POINT.

00:40:02.300 --> 00:40:03.533
VLADIMIR: THE THREE HEBREW
BOYS DID NOT MEET

00:40:03.633 --> 00:40:05.534
THE FOURTH MAN
UNTIL THEY WERE -

00:40:05.634 --> 00:40:08.734
IT'S ALMOST LIKE
HE WAS SHINING

00:40:08.834 --> 00:40:10.400
WHEN THE FIRES WERE THERE.


00:40:10.500 --> 00:40:12.066
SO I THINK THAT
SOMETIMES WE FORGET

00:40:12.166 --> 00:40:13.234
THAT HIS NAME
IS EMMANUEL,

00:40:13.334 --> 00:40:14.734
HE IS WITH US.


00:40:14.834 --> 00:40:16.866
BUT WE REALLY -


00:40:16.966 --> 00:40:18.734
HE'S NOT JUST WITH US
THROUGH THE GOOD TIMES,

00:40:18.834 --> 00:40:20.667
HE'S WITH US THROUGH THE
MOST CHALLENGING TIMES.

00:40:20.767 --> 00:40:21.633
BUT THE DEVIL WILL
COME AND USE

00:40:21.733 --> 00:40:23.266
THOSE CHALLENGING TIMES


00:40:23.366 --> 00:40:24.467
TO PUSH US AWAY
AND TO SAY,

00:40:24.567 --> 00:40:25.967
YOU KNOW WHAT,
LEAVE HIM NOW.

00:40:26.067 --> 00:40:26.833
DON'T TRUST IN HIM.


00:40:26.933 --> 00:40:27.667
YOU DON'T HAVE A HOPE.


00:40:27.767 --> 00:40:28.733
YOU DON'T HAVE A FUTURE.


00:40:28.833 --> 00:40:30.333
AND THAT'S WHAT I FELT
WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER.

00:40:30.433 --> 00:40:31.567
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S
THE POINT TO PRAY?

00:40:31.667 --> 00:40:34.300
WHAT'S THE POINT
OF PRESSING IN?

00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:35.467
LOOK, GOD ABANDONED YOU.


00:40:35.567 --> 00:40:36.334
GOD LEFT YOU.


00:40:36.434 --> 00:40:37.833
HE DIDN'T LET
YOU TO BE BORN

00:40:37.933 --> 00:40:39.867
YOU KNOW, THIS
PARTICULAR WAY.

00:40:39.967 --> 00:40:41.667
AND, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT
THAT MY LIFE WAS DONE WITH.

00:40:41.767 --> 00:40:44.367
I'M ONLY 16, ONLY 15.


00:40:44.467 --> 00:40:46.300
NOW LOOKING BACK,
I WAS LIKE,

00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:47.600
WHAT A LIE THAT THE ENEMY


00:40:47.700 --> 00:40:50.467
WAS FEEDING MY MIND
WITH, AND STUFF.

00:40:50.567 --> 00:40:52.633
ONE OF THE LIES WAS THAT
I'LL NEVER GET MARRIED.

00:40:52.733 --> 00:40:55.133
AND THEN I GREW UP AND
UNDERSTOOD THAT MOST GIRLS

00:40:55.233 --> 00:40:56.334
DON'T MIND HOW YOU LOOK,


00:40:56.434 --> 00:40:58.367
AS LONG AS YOU HAVE
SOMETHING IN YOUR BRAINS,

00:40:58.467 --> 00:40:59.500
AND IN YOUR WALLET.


00:40:59.600 --> 00:41:02.033
[ LAUGHTER ]


00:41:02.133 --> 00:41:03.066
VLADIMIR:
AND I WAS, MAN,

00:41:03.166 --> 00:41:04.334
SOMEBODY SHOULD
HAVE TOLD ME

00:41:04.434 --> 00:41:05.533
WHEN I WAS 14


00:41:05.633 --> 00:41:07.500
AND THEN I WOULDN'T
BE THAT DESPAIRED.

00:41:07.600 --> 00:41:09.800
REBECCA: YOU KNOW, I AGREE
THE LIES OF THE ENEMY.

00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:10.800
I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME


00:41:10.900 --> 00:41:13.300
I FINALLY REALIZED
THAT THE ENEMY

00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:14.700
IS NOT ONLY
SPEAKING TO ME,

00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:15.900
BUT THAT HE LIES.


00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.834
AND I REMEMBER I HAD
OPENED UP TO MY PARENTS

00:41:19.934 --> 00:41:21.367
AND IT'S LIKE -


00:41:21.467 --> 00:41:22.433
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE
THE WHOLE STORY.

00:41:22.533 --> 00:41:23.867
BASICALLY I HAD AN
ENCOUNTER WITH GOD

00:41:23.967 --> 00:41:24.800
WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL.


00:41:24.900 --> 00:41:26.334
I WAS AWAY FROM GOD


00:41:26.434 --> 00:41:27.700
AND I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE.


00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:28.933
I WAS IN SUCH DECEPTION.


00:41:29.033 --> 00:41:31.867
THAT'S WHY I HAVE SUCH
A PASSION FOR PEOPLE

00:41:31.967 --> 00:41:33.000
THAT ARE -


00:41:33.100 --> 00:41:33.934
TO SHARE THE TRUTH.


00:41:34.034 --> 00:41:35.500
BECAUSE I WAS
IN DECEPTION.

00:41:35.600 --> 00:41:36.767
AND I HAD AN
ENCOUNTER WITH GOD

00:41:36.867 --> 00:41:38.500
WHERE GOD GAVE ME
AN OPEN VISION

00:41:38.600 --> 00:41:40.533
AND HE SAID, IF YOU
GO DOWN THIS PATH,

00:41:40.633 --> 00:41:42.366
I SAW THIS SUPER
DARK PATH,

00:41:42.466 --> 00:41:43.267
AND IT SAID
BROAD IS THE WAY

00:41:43.367 --> 00:41:44.833
THAT LEADS TO DESTRUCTION.


00:41:44.933 --> 00:41:46.133
AND GOD SPOKE TO
ME AND HE SAID,

00:41:46.233 --> 00:41:48.433
IF YOU GO DOWN THIS PATH,
YOU WILL DESTROY YOURSELF.

00:41:48.533 --> 00:41:50.200
AND I WAS ON A
PATH TO HELL

00:41:50.300 --> 00:41:51.634
AND I DIDN'T
EVEN REALIZE IT.

00:41:51.734 --> 00:41:52.534
VLADIMIR: WOW.


00:41:52.634 --> 00:41:54.400
REBECCA: AND THE
FEAR OF GOD STRUCK ME

00:41:54.500 --> 00:41:57.100
AND I REACHED OUT TO
A COUNSELOR FOR HELP.

00:41:57.200 --> 00:41:59.366
AND I WAS LIVING IN SIN.


00:41:59.466 --> 00:42:01.534
AND, YOU KNOW, I CONFESSED
EVERYTHING TO HIM,

00:42:01.634 --> 00:42:03.200
AND THEN HE BROUGHT
MY PARENTS IN.

00:42:03.300 --> 00:42:05.300
I REMEMBER WALKING IN THE
NEXT DAY WITH MY PARENTS

00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:06.500
AND THE ENEMY GOES,


00:42:06.600 --> 00:42:08.233
YOUR PARENTS DON'T
CARE ABOUT YOU.

00:42:08.333 --> 00:42:10.000
THEY DON'T EVEN
WANT TO BE HERE.

00:42:10.100 --> 00:42:11.700
AND I REMEMBER FOR THE
FIRST TIME THINKING,

00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:13.267
THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.


00:42:13.367 --> 00:42:14.800
AND I REMEMBER IN
THAT SESSION SAYING,

00:42:14.900 --> 00:42:16.034
I JUST HEARD THIS


00:42:16.134 --> 00:42:17.667
AND I JUST DON'T
FEEL LIKE IT'S TRUE

00:42:17.767 --> 00:42:19.633
AND I FEEL LIKE
IT'S THE DEVIL.

00:42:19.733 --> 00:42:22.100
BUT I REMEMBER I TOLD
THEM AND THEY SAID,

00:42:22.200 --> 00:42:24.167
NO, WE WANT TO BE
HERE, OBVIOUSLY.

00:42:24.267 --> 00:42:25.334
WE WANT TO HELP YOU.


00:42:25.434 --> 00:42:26.600
WE WANT WHAT'S
BEST FOR YOU.

00:42:26.700 --> 00:42:29.566
BUT WHEN I WAS ABLE
TO BEGIN TO IDENTIFY

00:42:29.666 --> 00:42:30.867
WHAT IS MY VOICE,


00:42:30.967 --> 00:42:32.067
WHAT IS THE LORD'S VOICE,


00:42:32.167 --> 00:42:34.100
AND WHAT IS THE ENEMY'S
VOICE AND HIS LIES,

00:42:34.200 --> 00:42:36.034
WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO
IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS,

00:42:36.134 --> 00:42:38.300
IT HAS NOT AS MUCH
POWER OVER YOU.

00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:39.767
BUT WHEN YOU
WERE YOUNGER,

00:42:39.867 --> 00:42:41.633
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
THE ENEMY TRIES TO DO

00:42:41.733 --> 00:42:42.833
IS OBVIOUSLY LIE TO US,


00:42:42.933 --> 00:42:44.400
BUT I THINK TAKE HOPE.


00:42:44.500 --> 00:42:45.466
HE WANTED YOU TO THINK


00:42:45.566 --> 00:42:47.600
THAT YOUR LIFE HAD NO
PURPOSE AND NO FUTURE.

00:42:47.700 --> 00:42:48.500
VLADIMIR: YES, UH-HUH.


00:42:48.600 --> 00:42:49.433
REBECCA: BUT GOD
HAD SUCH A PLAN

00:42:49.533 --> 00:42:50.733
AND A PURPOSE FOR YOU.


00:42:50.833 --> 00:42:51.567
VLADIMIR: AND THAT'S
ONE OF THE THINGS

00:42:51.667 --> 00:42:52.800
THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED,


00:42:52.900 --> 00:42:55.400
HOW YOU DISTINGUISH
THE VOICE OF GOD.

00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:58.434
GOD'S VOICE
CARRIES GOD'S HOPE.

00:42:58.534 --> 00:42:59.600
GOD'S PURPOSE.


00:42:59.700 --> 00:43:01.400
IT'S ALWAYS IN LINE
WITH GOD'S WILL,

00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:03.234
WHICH THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE.


00:43:03.334 --> 00:43:04.700
GOD IS A FAITH GOD.


00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:06.234
GOD IS NOT DEPRESSED.


00:43:06.334 --> 00:43:07.466
GOD IS NOT HOPELESS.


00:43:07.566 --> 00:43:09.267
GOD IS NOT SITTING UP
THERE PULLING HIS HAIR,

00:43:09.367 --> 00:43:10.400
HE DOESN'T KNOW
WHAT TO DO

00:43:10.500 --> 00:43:11.667
WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN THE MIDDLE EAST

00:43:11.767 --> 00:43:12.367
AND EVERYWHERE.


00:43:12.467 --> 00:43:14.933
GOD IS A VERY HOPEFUL GOD.


00:43:15.033 --> 00:43:16.367
HIS VOICE WILL
ALWAYS CARRY

00:43:16.467 --> 00:43:18.034
THAT DNA OF GOD.


00:43:18.134 --> 00:43:19.700
SATAN'S VOICE
IS THE OPPOSITE.

00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:21.366
IT'S HOPELESSNESS,
IT'S DESPAIR.

00:43:21.466 --> 00:43:23.067
AND WHEN YOU BEGIN
TO SENSE THAT,

00:43:23.167 --> 00:43:24.534
YOU KNOW, THEN WE KNOW,


00:43:24.634 --> 00:43:26.467
HEY, THIS IS NOT
FROM THE LORD.

00:43:26.567 --> 00:43:27.800
AND I LIKE WHAT
YOU HIGHLIGHTED,

00:43:27.900 --> 00:43:30.533
IS THAT YOU
VOCALIZED THAT.

00:43:30.633 --> 00:43:32.834
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN
WE HEAR THE VOICE,

00:43:32.934 --> 00:43:36.367
AND WE JUST SIMPLY
REPEAT THAT OUT LOUD,

00:43:36.467 --> 00:43:37.834
WE OURSELVES ARE LIKE,


00:43:37.934 --> 00:43:39.667
THIS IS WRONG.


00:43:39.767 --> 00:43:43.300
BUT WHEN IT'S IN OUR HEAD,
THIS SOUNDS MAYBE WRONG.

00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:44.567
WHEN IT COMES OUT
OF OUR MOUTH,

00:43:44.667 --> 00:43:46.300
THIS IS DEFINITELY WRONG.


00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.033
AND THEN SOMETIMES YOU'RE
IN THE COMMUNITY OF BELIEVERS,

00:43:48.133 --> 00:43:49.600
SOMEBODY ELSE HEARS IT,


00:43:49.700 --> 00:43:51.067
AND THEY'RE LIKE,
THAT IS NOT ONLY WRONG,

00:43:51.167 --> 00:43:52.100
THAT IS DEMONIC.


00:43:52.200 --> 00:43:53.233
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:43:53.333 --> 00:43:54.366
VLADIMIR: YOU SHOULD
DEFINITELY NOT BELIEVE THAT.

00:43:54.466 --> 00:43:57.167
AND THEN BREAKING
THAT WITH JESUS' WORD.

00:43:57.267 --> 00:43:58.733
I LOVE WHAT JESUS DID
IN THE WILDERNESS

00:43:58.833 --> 00:44:00.267
WHEN SATAN CAME TO HIM.


00:44:00.367 --> 00:44:01.533
MY PERSONAL OPINION,


00:44:01.633 --> 00:44:03.033
I DON'T HAVE A SCRIPTURE
TO BACK IT UP,

00:44:03.133 --> 00:44:05.434
THAT SATAN, MOST
OF THAT TEMPTATION

00:44:05.534 --> 00:44:08.100
WAS COMING IN THE
FORM OF A THOUGHT.

00:44:08.200 --> 00:44:10.133
BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS
HE WAS TEMPTED AS WE ARE.

00:44:10.233 --> 00:44:11.433
AND WHEN I GET TEMPTED,


00:44:11.533 --> 00:44:12.866
THE DEVIL DOESN'T SHOW
UP WITH A PITCHFORK.

00:44:12.966 --> 00:44:14.000
REBECCA: NO.


00:44:14.100 --> 00:44:15.667
VLADIMIR: BECAUSE IF HE
WOULD, I WOULD BE LIKE,

00:44:15.767 --> 00:44:17.633
I'LL GRAB THE BIBLE
AND GO STAB HIM.

00:44:17.733 --> 00:44:19.834
JUST DO SOMETHING
WITH THE BIBLE.

00:44:19.934 --> 00:44:21.200
IT WOULD BE EASY
TO RESIST HIM

00:44:21.300 --> 00:44:23.000
IF HE WOULD COME
WITH A PITCHFORK.

00:44:23.100 --> 00:44:24.534
WHY IT'S HARD
TO RESIST HIM,

00:44:24.634 --> 00:44:26.800
BECAUSE HE DOESN'T
COME WITH A PITCHFORK,

00:44:26.900 --> 00:44:29.500
HE COMES CLONED
AS MY THOUGHTS.

00:44:29.600 --> 00:44:31.200
REBECCA: HE
INTRODUCES A THOUGHT,

00:44:31.300 --> 00:44:32.967
MAKING YOU THINK,
DISGUISED AS YOUR OWN.

00:44:33.067 --> 00:44:34.100
VLADIMIR: YES, YOUR OWN.


00:44:34.200 --> 00:44:36.400
AND VOCALIZING
THOSE THOUGHTS

00:44:36.500 --> 00:44:37.767
COULD HELP US TO
DISTINGUISH THEM

00:44:37.867 --> 00:44:38.800
A LITTLE BIT BETTER


00:44:38.900 --> 00:44:40.333
IF WE'RE NOT SURE.


00:44:40.433 --> 00:44:43.233
AND THEN HAVING ANOTHER
PERSON TO HEAR YOU VOCALIZING,

00:44:43.333 --> 00:44:44.967
FOR EXAMPLE, OR
ME VOCALIZING,

00:44:45.067 --> 00:44:47.600
WHAT I'M HEARING OR
FEELING IN MY HEART

00:44:47.700 --> 00:44:48.766
AND IN MY SOUL,


00:44:48.866 --> 00:44:51.067
COULD HELP THEM TO
REALLY VALIDATE,

00:44:51.167 --> 00:44:53.200
OKAY, THIS IS
NOT FROM GOD.

00:44:53.300 --> 00:44:56.767
BUT WHAT I BELIEVE
HELPS US TO OVERCOME

00:44:56.867 --> 00:44:59.500
THESE DEMONIC THOUGHTS,


00:44:59.600 --> 00:45:02.400
IS NOT FIGHTING
THOUGHTS WITH THOUGHTS.

00:45:02.500 --> 00:45:04.667
THAT'S THE MISTAKE
PEOPLE MAKE.

00:45:04.767 --> 00:45:07.200
AND WHERE THEY SAY, WELL,
I'M JUST GONNA MEDITATE

00:45:07.300 --> 00:45:09.500
ON GOD'S TRUTH


00:45:09.600 --> 00:45:12.867
AND THAT WILL SQUASH
THE DEVIL'S LIES

00:45:12.967 --> 00:45:14.434
THAT COME IN THE
FORM OF THOUGHTS.

00:45:14.534 --> 00:45:15.633
BUT THAT'S NOT
HOW IT WORKS.

00:45:15.733 --> 00:45:18.367
YOU DON'T HIT A
THOUGHT THAT'S DEMONIC

00:45:18.467 --> 00:45:20.267
WITH A THOUGHT
THAT'S FROM GOD.

00:45:20.367 --> 00:45:23.900
YOU ONLY CAN SQUASH
IT WITH A WORD

00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.767
SPOKEN OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.


00:45:25.867 --> 00:45:28.300
JESUS SPOKE THE
WORD TO THE DEVIL.

00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.466
HE DIDN'T THOUGHT
THE WORD IN HIS MIND.

00:45:31.566 --> 00:45:33.033
AND I BELIEVE IN
THE POWER OF

00:45:33.133 --> 00:45:34.334
SPEAKING THE SCRIPTURES,


00:45:34.434 --> 00:45:35.533
AND MEMORIZING SCRIPTURES.


00:45:35.633 --> 00:45:38.200
IN FACT, I HAVE A GROUP
THAT WE MEMORIZE VERSES

00:45:38.300 --> 00:45:40.334
OF THE BIBLE ONCE A WEEK.


00:45:40.434 --> 00:45:42.967
AND I REALLY BELIEVE IN
US MEMORIZING SCRIPTURE,

00:45:43.067 --> 00:45:44.233
AND THEN SPEAKING OUT,


00:45:44.333 --> 00:45:45.533
ESPECIALLY WHEN
WE'RE BEING TEMPTED,

00:45:45.633 --> 00:45:47.600
OR SOME LIE COMES IN.


00:45:47.700 --> 00:45:48.467
WE VERBALIZE IT.


00:45:48.567 --> 00:45:49.766
IT DOESN'T HAVE
TO BE OUT LOUD.

00:45:49.866 --> 00:45:52.434
BUT IT COULD BE JUST ENOUGH
WHERE YOU HEAR YOURSELF

00:45:52.534 --> 00:45:53.767
AND RIGHT AWAY
THOSE THOUGHTS

00:45:53.867 --> 00:45:55.667
THAT WERE ABOUT
TO TAKE ROOT,

00:45:55.767 --> 00:45:58.867
THEY GET ALMOST LIKE
SPIRITUALLY ABORTED.

00:45:58.967 --> 00:46:01.067
AND THEN WE EXPERIENCE
THAT VICTORY.

00:46:01.167 --> 00:46:02.066
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:46:02.166 --> 00:46:03.200
BECAUSE WHAT'S
SO CRAZY IS

00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:04.633
WHEN THE DEVIL WAS
TEMPTING JESUS,

00:46:04.733 --> 00:46:06.634
HE WAS TWISTING
THE WORD OF GOD.

00:46:06.734 --> 00:46:07.700
VLADIMIR:
AS WELL, YEAH.

00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.066
REBECCA: SO WE NEED
TO KNOW THE WORD OF GOD.

00:46:10.166 --> 00:46:11.434
BECAUSE THE DEVIL
KNOWS THE WORD OF GOD,

00:46:11.534 --> 00:46:13.033
AND HE CAN KNOW HOW
TO MANIPULATE IT

00:46:13.133 --> 00:46:14.234
AND USE IT AGAINST US.


00:46:14.334 --> 00:46:15.134
VLADIMIR: AND
IT ALSO TELLS ME

00:46:15.234 --> 00:46:16.367
ANYBODY WHO'S
TWISTING GOD'S WORD

00:46:16.467 --> 00:46:17.600
IS ON THE DEVIL'S PAYROLL.


00:46:17.700 --> 00:46:19.866
REBECCA: MM-HMM,
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN.

00:46:19.966 --> 00:46:21.933
BUT THE THING
IS, IS THAT,

00:46:22.033 --> 00:46:24.100
IN THE SWORD
OF THE SPIRIT,

00:46:24.200 --> 00:46:26.333
IS THE WORD OF GOD.


00:46:26.433 --> 00:46:29.166
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
READY IN YOUR ARSENAL,

00:46:29.266 --> 00:46:31.566
WHEN THAT MOMENT COMES,
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE READY.

00:46:31.666 --> 00:46:32.467
VLADIMIR: INDEED.


00:46:32.567 --> 00:46:33.367
REBECCA: YOU HAVE TO
EQUIP YOURSELF

00:46:33.467 --> 00:46:34.600
BY KNOWING HIS WORD.


00:46:34.700 --> 00:46:37.066
AND THAT'S HOW JESUS
COMBATTED THE DEVIL

00:46:37.166 --> 00:46:38.734
EVERY SINGLE TIME.


00:46:38.834 --> 00:46:39.967
THE DEVIL WOULD SAY,
WELL, IT IS WRITTEN,

00:46:40.067 --> 00:46:42.400
AND JESUS SAID, WELL,
IT'S ALSO WRITTEN.

00:46:42.500 --> 00:46:45.567
BECAUSE HIS WORD
IS WHAT'S TRUE.

00:46:45.667 --> 00:46:47.467
AND EVERYTHING
IN OUR LIVES,

00:46:47.567 --> 00:46:49.433
WE HAVE TO BASE
IT OFF HIS WORD.

00:46:49.533 --> 00:46:53.367
BECAUSE I THINK BEING IN
THE SPIRIT-FILLED REALM,

00:46:53.467 --> 00:46:55.100
ONE OF THE THINGS A LOT
OF PEOPLE ARE GUILTY OF,

00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:56.634
THEY CAN GET UP IN
THEIR FEELINGS,

00:46:56.734 --> 00:46:59.200
AND KIND OF LIKE
IN THE SPIRIT,

00:46:59.300 --> 00:47:01.034
BUT IT'S NOT GROUNDED
IN THE WORD OF GOD.

00:47:01.134 --> 00:47:01.900
AND SO EVERYTHING -


00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:02.733
VLADIMIR: GOD TOLD ME.


00:47:02.833 --> 00:47:03.633
REBECCA: GOD TOLD ME.


00:47:03.733 --> 00:47:05.600
VLADIMIR: HAS
BECOME THE NEW THING.

00:47:05.700 --> 00:47:06.666
I FIND IT INTERESTING,


00:47:06.766 --> 00:47:07.933
IN THE WILDERNESS, JESUS
DIDN'T SAY TO THE DEVIL,

00:47:08.033 --> 00:47:08.900
GOD TOLD ME.


00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.200
HE DIDN'T EVEN
SAY I SAID,

00:47:11.300 --> 00:47:13.400
EVEN THOUGH THOSE
WERE HIS WORDS.

00:47:13.500 --> 00:47:14.733
HE SAID, IT IS WRITTEN.


00:47:14.833 --> 00:47:17.867
IF JESUS, THE
WORD OF GOD,

00:47:17.967 --> 00:47:20.966
CHOSE TO USE THE
WRITTEN WORD OF GOD

00:47:21.066 --> 00:47:22.933
AGAINST THE DEVIL,


00:47:23.033 --> 00:47:25.334
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW
SPIRIT-FILLED WE ARE,

00:47:25.434 --> 00:47:28.200
WE COULD NEVER
OUTGROW OUR NEED

00:47:28.300 --> 00:47:31.867
TO USE MORE OF IT IS
WRITTEN THAN GOD TOLD ME.

00:47:31.967 --> 00:47:34.233
WHEN I WAS A YOUNGER
PASTOR, REBECCA,

00:47:34.333 --> 00:47:35.967
ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT PASTOR,

00:47:36.067 --> 00:47:37.200
MY PASTOR CORRECTED ME,


00:47:37.300 --> 00:47:38.534
I WOULD START MY
SERMON LIKE THIS.

00:47:38.634 --> 00:47:40.566
THIS WEEK, THE
LORD TOLD ME.

00:47:40.666 --> 00:47:41.700
AND I WOULD
ALWAYS START -

00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:44.367
AND THE REASON I WOULD
SAY THAT INTENTIONALLY,

00:47:44.467 --> 00:47:46.566
IS BECAUSE I KNEW I
DIDN'T HAVE CREDIBILITY.

00:47:46.666 --> 00:47:48.133
SO BY SAYING GOD
TOLD ME THIS WEEK,

00:47:48.233 --> 00:47:50.167
I WANTED TO REALLY
GET THEIR ATTENTION.

00:47:50.267 --> 00:47:51.166
I WAS IN PRAYER


00:47:51.266 --> 00:47:53.334
AND GOD TOLD ME TO
SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

00:47:53.434 --> 00:47:54.800
AND MY PASTOR
REBUKED ME ONE TIME

00:47:54.900 --> 00:47:56.900
AND HE SAID,
STOP USING THAT.

00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:58.734
HE SAYS, HALF OF THE THINGS
YOU SAID GOD TOLD YOU,

00:47:58.834 --> 00:48:00.300
IT WASN'T GOD.


00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.767
HE SAID IT WAS
YOUR OWN THOUGHTS.

00:48:01.867 --> 00:48:05.700
HE SAID, SECONDLY,
SPEAK THE WORD OF GOD

00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.834
IN SUCH A WAY WHERE PEOPLE
WILL COME AFTERWARDS

00:48:08.934 --> 00:48:11.734
AND SAY GOD SPOKE
TO ME THROUGH YOU.

00:48:11.834 --> 00:48:13.934
NOT YOU BLOWING YOUR
TRUMPET AND SAYING,

00:48:14.034 --> 00:48:15.067
GOD SPOKE TO ME.


00:48:15.167 --> 00:48:16.433
HE SAYS YOU'RE TOO YOUNG,


00:48:16.533 --> 00:48:17.867
AND HE SAYS, GOD DOESN'T
SPEAK TO YOU AS MUCH

00:48:17.967 --> 00:48:19.133
AS YOU THINK HE DOES.


00:48:19.233 --> 00:48:20.366
I MEAN MY PASTOR JUST -


00:48:20.466 --> 00:48:21.767
REBECCA: HE JUST -


00:48:21.867 --> 00:48:23.434
VLADIMIR: BUT HE REALLY
WANTED TO BUILD THAT

00:48:23.534 --> 00:48:25.633
SCRIPTURE-BASED PREACHING


00:48:25.733 --> 00:48:27.800
AND USING LESS
OF GOD TOLD ME.

00:48:27.900 --> 00:48:29.934
AND THEN AS I STARTED
TO LEAD THE YOUTH,

00:48:30.034 --> 00:48:31.700
I STARTED TO NOTICE
THIS PANDEMIC,

00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:33.500
WHERE A 16-YEAR-OLD WILL
COME AND HE'S LIKE,

00:48:33.600 --> 00:48:35.500
GOD TOLD ME WHO MY
WIFE IS GONNA BE.

00:48:35.600 --> 00:48:36.700
I WAS LIKE, HOW
OLD ARE YOU?

00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.134
HE'S LIKE, 16.


00:48:38.234 --> 00:48:39.800
AND THEN NEXT WEEK I FIND
HIM TALKING TO THIS GIRL,

00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:42.167
AND THEN I FIND OUT
THAT HE'S STALKING HER,

00:48:42.267 --> 00:48:43.233
COMING TO HER AND SAYS,


00:48:43.333 --> 00:48:46.267
HEY, GOD TOLD ME
YOU'RE MY WIFE.

00:48:46.367 --> 00:48:47.933
DID HE BEAR A
CONFIRMATION WITH YOU?

00:48:48.033 --> 00:48:49.533
AND SHE'S LIKE, NO,
GET AWAY FROM ME,

00:48:49.633 --> 00:48:51.234
I'M GONNA CALL POLICE.


00:48:51.334 --> 00:48:52.567
AND WHEN WE DEVELOP THIS,


00:48:52.667 --> 00:48:54.800
ESPECIALLY LIKE YOU SAID,
SPIRIT-FILLED CULTURE,

00:48:54.900 --> 00:48:56.466
A SPIRIT-FILLED
CULTURE IN CHURCHES,

00:48:56.566 --> 00:48:59.067
WE CAN DEVELOP PEOPLE
WHO DO NOT APPRECIATE,

00:48:59.167 --> 00:49:01.367
DO NOT KNOW AND DO NOT
VALUE THE SCRIPTURE.

00:49:01.467 --> 00:49:02.766
AND WE'RE JUST
FOLLOWING PRETTY MUCH

00:49:02.866 --> 00:49:04.167
WHAT WE FEEL
IN OUR HEARTS

00:49:04.267 --> 00:49:06.100
AND THAT COULD BE
EXTREMELY MISLEADING.

00:49:06.200 --> 00:49:07.933
REBECCA: YEAH,
AND DANGEROUS.

00:49:08.033 --> 00:49:08.967
VLADIMIR: AND DANGEROUS.


00:49:09.067 --> 00:49:10.500
REBECCA: BECAUSE THERE'S
A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

00:49:10.600 --> 00:49:13.067
FOLLOWING YOUR HEART,
VERSUS FOLLOWING THE SPIRIT.

00:49:13.167 --> 00:49:14.133
BECAUSE THE HEART
IS THE SOUL.

00:49:14.233 --> 00:49:16.634
THE SPIRIT IS THE
HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN US.

00:49:16.734 --> 00:49:17.500
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


00:49:17.600 --> 00:49:19.100
AND OUR HEART IS
NOT ALWAYS IN LINE

00:49:19.200 --> 00:49:20.267
WITH GOD'S WORD.


00:49:20.367 --> 00:49:21.767
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A
REFLECTION OF

00:49:21.867 --> 00:49:23.033
WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH,


00:49:23.133 --> 00:49:24.934
SOMETIMES IT'S HORMONES.


00:49:25.034 --> 00:49:27.267
SOMETIMES IT'S
JUST PHYSIOLOGY,

00:49:27.367 --> 00:49:28.766
OUR OWN BODIES
EXPERIENCING,

00:49:28.866 --> 00:49:29.900
FEELING SOMETHING.


00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.200
AND IT MIGHT NOT
BE GOD AT ALL.

00:49:31.300 --> 00:49:32.100
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:49:32.200 --> 00:49:33.233
ONE OF THE THINGS
MY PROFESSOR SAID,

00:49:33.333 --> 00:49:36.067
IS HE SAID, OUR SOULS
KNOW IT NEEDS SOMETHING,

00:49:36.167 --> 00:49:37.833
BUT IT DOESN'T
KNOW WHAT IT NEEDS.

00:49:37.933 --> 00:49:39.733
GOD KNOWS WHAT WE NEED.


00:49:39.833 --> 00:49:41.033
AND THAT'S WHY WE
HAVE TO TUNE -

00:49:41.133 --> 00:49:43.500
IT'S LIKE WE CAN FEEL
LIKE SOMETHING IS OFF,

00:49:43.600 --> 00:49:45.333
BUT ONLY GOD KNOWS.


00:49:45.433 --> 00:49:47.633
AND THAT'S WHY WE
HAVE TO TURN TO HIM.

00:49:47.733 --> 00:49:51.000
SO I WANT TO GET
BACK INTO YOUR STORY.

00:49:51.100 --> 00:49:54.800
SO YOU'RE 16, YOU'VE HAD
THIS WILDERNESS SEASON,

00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:56.234
HOW MANY YEARS,
LIKE THREE YEARS?

00:49:56.334 --> 00:49:58.033
WAS IT 13 TO 16?


00:49:58.133 --> 00:49:59.433
VLADIMIR: YEAH,
ABOUT THAT TIME.

00:49:59.533 --> 00:50:02.033
REBECCA: AND THEN WHEN
YOU'RE 16, YOUR UNCLE -

00:50:02.133 --> 00:50:02.833
VLADIMIR: UH-HUH.


00:50:02.933 --> 00:50:04.067
REBECCA: SO HE
WAS A PASTOR OF -

00:50:04.167 --> 00:50:05.233
WAS HE SENIOR PASTOR
OF THE CHURCH?

00:50:05.333 --> 00:50:06.133
VLADIMIR: UH-HUH.


00:50:06.233 --> 00:50:07.200
HE'S THE FOUNDING
PASTOR STILL.

00:50:07.300 --> 00:50:08.266
REBECCA: IS HE MOM'S
SIDE OR DAD'S SIDE,

00:50:08.366 --> 00:50:08.967
I'M JUST CURIOUS?


00:50:09.067 --> 00:50:09.734
VLADIMIR:
MY MOM'S SIDE.

00:50:09.834 --> 00:50:11.067
REBECCA: NICE. OKAY.


00:50:11.167 --> 00:50:12.833
SO THAT WAS -


00:50:12.933 --> 00:50:14.833
WHICH GRANDPARENT
WAS YOUR MOM'S SIDE?

00:50:14.933 --> 00:50:16.100
VLADIMIR: MY MOM'S
SIDE WAS THE ONE

00:50:16.200 --> 00:50:17.933
THAT WAS BEATEN
BY COMMUNISTS

00:50:18.033 --> 00:50:19.467
AND SENT TO JAIL
FOR FIVE YEARS.

00:50:19.567 --> 00:50:20.900
REBECCA: WOW, OKAY.


00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.867
VLADIMIR: SO THAT WAS
MY PASTOR'S GRANDFATHER.

00:50:22.967 --> 00:50:24.267
REBECCA: SO THAT WAS THE -


00:50:24.367 --> 00:50:25.167
SORRY, PEOPLE ARE LIKE,


00:50:25.267 --> 00:50:26.333
WHY ARE YOU GETTING
INTO ALL THIS?

00:50:26.433 --> 00:50:28.767
SO THAT WAS THE GRANDMOTHER
THAT HAD 16 CHILDREN?

00:50:28.867 --> 00:50:29.833
VLADIMIR: YES.


00:50:29.933 --> 00:50:32.467
HE'S THE FIRST, HE'S THE
FIRSTBORN OF THOSE 16.

00:50:32.567 --> 00:50:33.534
REBECCA: WOW,
OH, MY GOODNESS.

00:50:33.634 --> 00:50:34.634
VLADIMIR:
THAT'S MY PASTOR.

00:50:34.734 --> 00:50:35.500
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO WILD.

00:50:35.600 --> 00:50:37.666
OKAY. SO HE COMES
TO YOU AND SAYS -

00:50:37.766 --> 00:50:40.066
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY
INTERESTING THAT

00:50:40.166 --> 00:50:42.167
EVEN WHEN YOU WENT TO
LOOK FOR A COMMUNITY,

00:50:42.267 --> 00:50:43.800
YOU WENT TO THE
WORSHIP TEAM,

00:50:43.900 --> 00:50:44.866
AND YOU GOT REJECTED.


00:50:44.966 --> 00:50:46.000
AND EVEN THOUGH
THAT WAS HARD,

00:50:46.100 --> 00:50:47.333
IT WAS ACTUALLY
A GOOD THING.

00:50:47.433 --> 00:50:48.900
BECAUSE YOU WENT
TO THE LORD.

00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.066
BUT NOW GOD IS
LINING YOU UP.

00:50:51.166 --> 00:50:52.534
VLADIMIR: NO
DANCING PARTY.

00:50:52.634 --> 00:50:54.333
YEAH, ACTUALLY AFTER
I GOT HEALING,

00:50:54.433 --> 00:50:56.366
I GOT BACK TO THE
SAME WORSHIP TEAM

00:50:56.466 --> 00:50:58.000
AND I WAS THE WORSHIP
LEADER FOR TWO YEARS.

00:50:58.100 --> 00:50:59.034
REBECCA: WAIT.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?

00:50:59.134 --> 00:51:00.000
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


00:51:00.100 --> 00:51:01.067
REBECCA: BUT I THOUGHT
YOU COULDN'T SING.

00:51:01.167 --> 00:51:01.933
VLADIMIR: NO.


00:51:02.033 --> 00:51:03.000
THEY LET ME IN BECAUSE


00:51:03.100 --> 00:51:04.200
PASTOR SAW THAT
I WAS PREACHING,

00:51:04.300 --> 00:51:05.933
AND HE WANTED ME TO
INTRODUCE EACH SONG

00:51:06.033 --> 00:51:07.234
BY SHARING SCRIPTURE,


00:51:07.334 --> 00:51:08.500
AND I KNEW THE SCRIPTURE.


00:51:08.600 --> 00:51:09.600
AND SO HE WANTED ME -


00:51:09.700 --> 00:51:10.934
I ACTUALLY WAS
BARELY SINGING.

00:51:11.034 --> 00:51:12.834
I WAS LIKE SPEAKING IN TONGUES
ALMOST ALL OF THE TIME

00:51:12.934 --> 00:51:14.667
BECAUSE OUR WORSHIP
WAS MORE PRAYER.

00:51:14.767 --> 00:51:17.033
AND SO, YEAH, UNTIL
I STEPPED DOWN,

00:51:17.133 --> 00:51:18.300
AFTER ABOUT TWO YEARS.


00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:20.233
I FEEL LIKE THE
LORD VINDICATED ME.

00:51:20.333 --> 00:51:21.800
REBECCA: YOU HAD
A FULL-CIRCLE MOMENT.

00:51:21.900 --> 00:51:23.067
VLADIMIR: I EVEN HAD
ONE LADY COME ONE TIME

00:51:23.167 --> 00:51:24.067
AFTER SERVICE,


00:51:24.167 --> 00:51:26.067
SHE'S LIKE, HAVE DO
YOU HAVE YOUR OWN CDS?

00:51:26.167 --> 00:51:27.400
AND I WAS LIKE,
AND I UNDERSTOOD

00:51:27.500 --> 00:51:28.266
IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD,


00:51:28.366 --> 00:51:29.300
I'M LIKE, I
THINK SHE'S DEAF

00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:30.967
BECAUSE IF SHE WOULD
ACTUALLY HEAR ME SING,

00:51:31.067 --> 00:51:33.200
SHE WOULD NEVER ASK
ME IF I HAVE CDS.

00:51:33.300 --> 00:51:35.600
BUT, NO, I
DIDN'T HAVE CDS.

00:51:35.700 --> 00:51:37.267
AND THEN I REALLY
STARTED TO JUST BE

00:51:37.367 --> 00:51:39.000
MORE INVOLVED
IN PREACHING.

00:51:39.100 --> 00:51:40.533
REBECCA: SO HE CAME
TO YOU AND HE ASKED YOU

00:51:40.633 --> 00:51:41.767
TO TAKE OVER
THE YOUTH GROUP.

00:51:41.867 --> 00:51:42.900
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:44.600
REBECCA: BUT YOU SAID
TWO OTHER PEOPLE HAD QUIT.

00:51:44.700 --> 00:51:47.100
VLADIMIR: QUIT. SIX MONTHS -
YEAH, SIX MONTHS.

00:51:47.200 --> 00:51:49.233
ACTUALLY I FOUND
OUT THIS LATER,

00:51:49.333 --> 00:51:51.033
AT LEAST DURING
THAT TIME,

00:51:51.133 --> 00:51:53.234
THE AVERAGE TIME THAT
YOUTH PASTORS WOULD LAST

00:51:53.334 --> 00:51:54.266
WAS SIX MONTHS.


00:51:54.366 --> 00:51:55.600
REBECCA: YEAH,
BECAUSE IT'S HARD.

00:51:55.700 --> 00:51:57.000
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


00:51:57.100 --> 00:51:58.800
AND I TAKE OVER AT 16.


00:51:58.900 --> 00:52:01.633
SIX MONTHS PASSES, IT'S
JUST MY SEVEN COUSINS,

00:52:01.733 --> 00:52:02.600
SEVEN OR EIGHT COUSINS.


00:52:02.700 --> 00:52:03.800
SO IT WAS NO DANGER.


00:52:03.900 --> 00:52:04.667
REBECCA: IT WAS
YOUR WHOLE FAMILY?

00:52:04.767 --> 00:52:05.700
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.034
WELL, I MEAN, EACH FAMILY
HAD FIVE, SIX KIDS,

00:52:08.134 --> 00:52:10.400
AND THEN WE JUST WERE
LEARNING ENGLISH,

00:52:10.500 --> 00:52:12.934
SO THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF
PEOPLE COMING IN AT FIRST.

00:52:13.034 --> 00:52:14.134
SIX MONTHS INTO IT,


00:52:14.234 --> 00:52:16.166
I HAD THE MOST
EMBARRASSING MOMENT.

00:52:16.266 --> 00:52:17.233
FIRST, YOU KNOW,
MY COUSINS,

00:52:17.333 --> 00:52:18.367
THEY DON'T RESPECT ME.


00:52:18.467 --> 00:52:20.400
YOU KNOW, I'M THEIR AGE.


00:52:20.500 --> 00:52:21.567
REBECCA: THIS
IS YOUR FAMILY.

00:52:21.667 --> 00:52:22.566
VLADIMIR: THIS
IS MY FAMILY.

00:52:22.666 --> 00:52:23.567
SO THEY LOOK AT
ME, THEY'RE LIKE,

00:52:23.667 --> 00:52:25.000
AND THEN MY OWN
BROTHERS AND SISTERS,

00:52:25.100 --> 00:52:27.200
LOOK AT ME LIKE, DUDE,
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

00:52:27.300 --> 00:52:28.700
AND, YOU KNOW,
WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG,

00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:30.400
YOU DEMAND RESPECT.


00:52:30.500 --> 00:52:32.167
INSTEAD OF GIVING HONOR,
YOU DEMAND RESPECT.

00:52:32.267 --> 00:52:34.333
AND SO I WAS
DEMANDING RESPECT.

00:52:34.433 --> 00:52:35.934
AND AFTER ABOUT
SIX MONTHS

00:52:36.034 --> 00:52:38.034
ONE GUY COMES, AN OLDER
GUY COMES IN

00:52:38.134 --> 00:52:39.267
TO THIS YOUTH GROUP


00:52:39.367 --> 00:52:41.034
AND HE'S LIKE,
TIPSY, DRUNK.

00:52:41.134 --> 00:52:42.134
AND HE STARTS
INTERRUPTING ME

00:52:42.234 --> 00:52:43.667
WHEN I'M TRYING TO PREACH.


00:52:43.767 --> 00:52:46.467
AND MY ENGLISH, I'M IN
AMERICA THREE YEARS.

00:52:46.567 --> 00:52:48.033
I'M BARELY
SPEAKING ENGLISH.

00:52:48.133 --> 00:52:49.433
I'M TRYING TO
PREACH IN ENGLISH

00:52:49.533 --> 00:52:52.634
AND HE'S MAKING FUN OF
ME WHEN I'M PREACHING.

00:52:52.734 --> 00:52:54.367
IT WAS REALLY
EMBARRASSING.

00:52:54.467 --> 00:52:56.133
AND IT DIDN'T
GO WELL FOR ME,

00:52:56.233 --> 00:52:57.400
JUST THE WHOLE YOUTH
MINISTRY THING.

00:52:57.500 --> 00:52:58.433
MAN, I'M NOT READY,


00:52:58.533 --> 00:52:59.933
THESE COUSINS, SOME OF
THEM KNOW THE BIBLE

00:53:00.033 --> 00:53:01.800
ACTUALLY MORE THAN ME.


00:53:01.900 --> 00:53:03.000
SO THAT NIGHT I DECIDED


00:53:03.100 --> 00:53:07.067
THAT I'M GONNA CALL
MY PASTOR AND QUIT.

00:53:07.167 --> 00:53:09.534
AND WE - MY MOM CAME
TO PICK US UP,

00:53:09.634 --> 00:53:11.733
SO I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE
A CAR AT THE TIME.

00:53:11.833 --> 00:53:14.133
AND WE GO TO THIS
GROCERY STORE

00:53:14.233 --> 00:53:15.300
AND I'M PREPARING
A SPEECH

00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:16.600
BECAUSE I DIDN'T
HAVE A CELL PHONE,

00:53:16.700 --> 00:53:17.733
WE HAD A LAND LINE PHONE.


00:53:17.833 --> 00:53:19.866
I'M PREPARING A SPEECH
TO CALL MY UNCLE

00:53:19.966 --> 00:53:22.166
AND TO CONVINCE HIM THAT
HE NEEDS TO FIND SOMEBODY

00:53:22.266 --> 00:53:23.933
WHO'S JUST A LITTLE BIT
MORE EQUIPPED, OLDER,

00:53:24.033 --> 00:53:25.300
KIDS WILL RESPECT.


00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:26.366
THAT'S JUST NOT ME.


00:53:26.466 --> 00:53:28.300
AS I'M PREPARING
THE SPEECH,

00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.467
THE VOICE OF GOD
COMES IN A VAN,

00:53:30.567 --> 00:53:32.300
CHRYSLER RED VAN


00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:34.300
IN FRONT OF THE
WINCO GROCERY STORE,

00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:36.766
AND I HEAR GOD
SAY THIS TO ME.

00:53:36.866 --> 00:53:39.366
HE SAYS, IF YOU
DON'T QUIT,

00:53:39.466 --> 00:53:43.367
YOU WILL PASTOR A CHURCH
LIKE A GROCERY STORE.

00:53:43.467 --> 00:53:45.633
HE SAYS, PEOPLE WILL COME
FROM EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD

00:53:45.733 --> 00:53:48.067
HUNGRY, EMPTY, BROKEN,
SICK, DEMONIZED,

00:53:48.167 --> 00:53:49.100
AND THEY WILL WALK OUT,


00:53:49.200 --> 00:53:50.633
AND I SEE THESE PEOPLE
WALKING OUT WITH CARTS

00:53:50.733 --> 00:53:52.100
FULL OF GROCERIES.


00:53:52.200 --> 00:53:54.000
HE SAID THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN

00:53:54.100 --> 00:53:55.666
TO THE CHURCH THAT
YOU WILL PASTOR.

00:53:55.766 --> 00:53:58.300
HE SAYS PEOPLE WILL COME
FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,

00:53:58.400 --> 00:53:59.367
HEALING, ET CETERA.


00:53:59.467 --> 00:54:00.866
AND ON THIS GROCERY
STORE IT SAYS,

00:54:00.966 --> 00:54:03.000
24 HOURS, THAT IT
WILL BE OPEN 24 HOURS.

00:54:03.100 --> 00:54:04.400
I SAW A PHARMACY.


00:54:04.500 --> 00:54:06.866
AND I FELT AT 16, PEOPLE
WILL BE HEALED THERE.

00:54:06.966 --> 00:54:08.400
NOW I'M 16.


00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:11.000
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT MINISTRY.

00:54:11.100 --> 00:54:13.200
BUT THIS WAS A
VOICE OF GOD

00:54:13.300 --> 00:54:14.900
AND I DO FEEL LIKE
IT WAS A CALL OF GOD.

00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.566
I NEVER MADE THE
CALL TO MY PASTOR.

00:54:17.666 --> 00:54:19.767
I STILL STRUGGLED
FOR TEN YEARS

00:54:19.867 --> 00:54:22.533
IN A YOUTH MINISTRY
WITHOUT SEEING GROWTH.

00:54:22.633 --> 00:54:24.333
BUT WHEN IT GOT HARD,


00:54:24.433 --> 00:54:26.633
I WOULD GO BACK TO
THE PARKING LOT.

00:54:26.733 --> 00:54:27.766
I WOULD PARK THERE
AND I'D SAY,

00:54:27.866 --> 00:54:29.133
GOD, YOU PROMISED.


00:54:29.233 --> 00:54:30.667
INTERESTING, RIGHT NOW,
WE ARE BUILDING

00:54:30.767 --> 00:54:32.100
A NEW BUILDING,


00:54:32.200 --> 00:54:34.433
AND IT WILL LOOK
VERY SIMILAR

00:54:34.533 --> 00:54:37.067
TO THE ONE THAT I RECEIVED
WHEN I WAS 16 IN THE VISION.

00:54:37.167 --> 00:54:38.133
REBECCA: WOW.


00:54:38.233 --> 00:54:39.467
VLADIMIR: TODAY PEOPLE
DRIVE FROM EVERYWHERE

00:54:39.567 --> 00:54:40.766
EVERY SUNDAY.


00:54:40.866 --> 00:54:43.667
I MEAN PEOPLE FLY FROM
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD

00:54:43.767 --> 00:54:44.900
FOR A NORMAL SUNDAY.


00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:46.467
WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT EVEN CONFERENCE.

00:54:46.567 --> 00:54:47.467
THEY COME IN.


00:54:47.567 --> 00:54:48.266
PEOPLE RECEIVE HEALING.


00:54:48.366 --> 00:54:49.500
PEOPLE RECEIVE
DELIVERANCE.

00:54:49.600 --> 00:54:50.867
ALMOST EVERY WEEK
I GET EMAILS

00:54:50.967 --> 00:54:53.134
OF PEOPLE GETTING
ENCOUNTERS WITH GOD

00:54:53.234 --> 00:54:54.867
AND GETTING BREAKTHROUGH.


00:54:54.967 --> 00:54:57.800
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT AT 16,
WHEN I WANTED TO QUIT

00:54:57.900 --> 00:55:00.300
AFTER SIX MONTHS OF NOT
SEEING THE BREAKTHROUGH,

00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.466
FIRST OF ALL, GOD DIDN'T
TELL ME IN THAT PARKING LOT

00:55:02.566 --> 00:55:04.100
THAT IT WOULD BE
THE NEXT TEN YEARS

00:55:04.200 --> 00:55:05.633
AND I'M NOT GONNA
SEE ANY BREAKTHROUGH.

00:55:05.733 --> 00:55:07.166
REBECCA: THAT'S
A LONG TIME.

00:55:07.266 --> 00:55:09.400
VLADIMIR: BUT I FEEL THAT
THE LORD HAD TO PREPARE ME

00:55:09.500 --> 00:55:11.000
FOR WHAT HE HAD COMING.


00:55:11.100 --> 00:55:12.466
REBECCA: AND I THINK THAT'S
SUCH AN ENCOURAGING WORD

00:55:12.566 --> 00:55:13.367
WHERE HE WAS LIKE,


00:55:13.467 --> 00:55:15.066
YOU CAN'T GIVE UP
IF YOU DON'T QUIT.

00:55:15.166 --> 00:55:18.367
AND I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS,

00:55:18.467 --> 00:55:20.066
AND I GET IT,
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE

00:55:20.166 --> 00:55:21.167
I'M IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE PROCESS,

00:55:21.267 --> 00:55:23.234
AND I HAVE WANTED TO QUIT.


00:55:23.334 --> 00:55:25.634
AND I HAVEN'T, THANK GOD.


00:55:25.734 --> 00:55:27.067
AND, YOU KNOW,
HE RENEWS US.

00:55:27.167 --> 00:55:28.567
HE GIVES US NEW
STRENGTH AND VISION

00:55:28.667 --> 00:55:29.900
TO KEEP GOING.


00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:31.433
BUT THAT TEN YEARS -


00:55:31.533 --> 00:55:33.900
AND I FIND IT REALLY
ENCOURAGING, YOU KNOW,

00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.467
BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN
THE PROCESS YOU'RE LIKE,

00:55:36.567 --> 00:55:39.034
AM I EVER GONNA GET...


00:55:39.134 --> 00:55:40.533
AND WHAT'S SO
INTERESTING IS,

00:55:40.633 --> 00:55:42.633
WHO I WAS INTERVIEWING
YESTERDAY, SHE SAID,

00:55:42.733 --> 00:55:44.933
EVERY MOMENT
OF YOUR LIFE,

00:55:45.033 --> 00:55:47.734
SHE SAYS YOUR CALLING
ISN'T A DESTINATION.

00:55:47.834 --> 00:55:49.400
SHE SAYS EVERY
MOMENT OF YOUR LIFE

00:55:49.500 --> 00:55:52.100
IS TO MODEL JESUS TO
THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU.

00:55:52.200 --> 00:55:52.966
VLADIMIR: YES.


00:55:53.066 --> 00:55:53.800
REBECCA: AND
THAT ENCOURAGED ME.

00:55:53.900 --> 00:55:54.767
BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YES,


00:55:54.867 --> 00:55:55.600
YOU HAVE VISION FOR
THE FUTURE

00:55:55.700 --> 00:55:56.600
AND YOU'RE WORKING
TOWARDS THAT

00:55:56.700 --> 00:55:57.600
AND THAT'S GOOD.


00:55:57.700 --> 00:55:59.200
I MEAN, LITERALLY,
GOD GAVE YOU A VISION.

00:55:59.300 --> 00:56:00.500
BUT ALSO YOU CAN
BE ENCOURAGED

00:56:00.600 --> 00:56:01.967
THAT EVEN IN THIS SEASON
WHERE YOU'RE LIKE,

00:56:02.067 --> 00:56:03.267
THIS IS AWKWARD,


00:56:03.367 --> 00:56:05.267
THERE'S A PURPOSE AND YOU
CAN STILL BE OBEDIENT

00:56:05.367 --> 00:56:07.100
AND STILL MAKE AN IMPACT,


00:56:07.200 --> 00:56:09.500
AND STILL MODEL JESUS
TO THOSE AROUND YOU.

00:56:09.600 --> 00:56:12.100
VLADIMIR: AND NOT TO
MAKE VISION OUR IDOL.

00:56:12.200 --> 00:56:13.333
BECAUSE I ALMOST FEEL LIKE


00:56:13.433 --> 00:56:15.567
I GOT SUPER PSYCHED
ABOUT IT, SUPER PUMPED.

00:56:15.667 --> 00:56:17.567
REBECCA: WELL, THAT'S
A REALLY EXCITING VISION.

00:56:17.667 --> 00:56:18.700
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:20.033
BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, BUT
THEN GOD DOESN'T TELL YOU

00:56:20.133 --> 00:56:22.633
IN THAT SMALL PRINT HOW
LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE.

00:56:22.733 --> 00:56:23.800
IT'S LIKE JOSEPH.


00:56:23.900 --> 00:56:25.534
HE GIVES HIM THAT DREAM,
IT'S LIKE AN APPETIZER,

00:56:25.634 --> 00:56:26.867
IT'S LIKE A TEASER.


00:56:26.967 --> 00:56:29.400
I MEAN, THE POOR GUY,
GOT SUPER EXCITED.

00:56:29.500 --> 00:56:31.967
YOU KNOW, HIS DAD GIVES
HIM A COLORFUL COAT

00:56:32.067 --> 00:56:33.167
AND HE SEES LIKE,
OKAY, GREAT.

00:56:33.267 --> 00:56:34.600
I COULD SEE LOGICALLY


00:56:34.700 --> 00:56:36.300
HOW THIS IS GONNA
KEEP GROWING.

00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:38.966
AND I'M GONNA END
UP OVER THERE.

00:56:39.066 --> 00:56:41.433
AND THERE IS LIKE
THIS BUNCH OF DETOURS.

00:56:41.533 --> 00:56:43.300
AND THE BIBLE DOES SAY
THAT THE WILL OF GOD

00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:44.500
IS YOUR SANCTIFICATION.


00:56:44.600 --> 00:56:46.734
AND I ALWAYS
FELT, REBECCA,

00:56:46.834 --> 00:56:48.733
THAT NO MATTER WHAT
HAPPENS IN MY LIFE,

00:56:48.833 --> 00:56:52.033
IF I STAY ON GOD'S
HIGHWAY OF HOLINESS,

00:56:52.133 --> 00:56:55.400
I WILL NEVER MISS
GOD'S PURPOSE.

00:56:55.500 --> 00:56:58.333
AND IF I DON'T TAKE THE
COUNTRY ROADS OF COMPROMISE,

00:56:58.433 --> 00:56:59.967
THESE EXITS OF DETOURS,


00:57:00.067 --> 00:57:03.733
AND THESE QUICK THINGS -


00:57:03.833 --> 00:57:04.900
REBECCA: QUICK SUCCESS.


00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:06.667
VLADIMIR: YEAH, QUICK
SUCCESS OR SOME KIND OF

00:57:06.767 --> 00:57:08.800
FORNICATING,
FLIRTING WITH SIN,

00:57:08.900 --> 00:57:10.700
FORNICATION AND ALL
OF THESE THINGS.

00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:11.734
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED
WITH JOSEPH.

00:57:11.834 --> 00:57:12.900
HOW HE ENDS UP
AT THAT PLACE

00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:14.333
THAT GOD HAD FOR HIM,


00:57:14.433 --> 00:57:16.666
IS THAT HE TOOK A
LOT OF DETOURS,

00:57:16.766 --> 00:57:19.000
BUT EVERY SINGLE PATH
YOU SEE HE FEARED GOD,

00:57:19.100 --> 00:57:22.200
HE CALLED WICKEDNESS FOR
WHAT IT WAS, WICKEDNESS.

00:57:22.300 --> 00:57:25.200
NOWADAYS, OUR GENERATION
CALLS IT WEAKNESS.

00:57:25.300 --> 00:57:27.200
PORN IS JUST WEAKNESS.


00:57:27.300 --> 00:57:30.067
JOSEPH CALLS THAT SIN
WICKEDNESS.

00:57:30.167 --> 00:57:32.100
AND THEN HE FEARED GOD,
HE STAYED OBEDIENT.

00:57:32.200 --> 00:57:34.466
HE STAYED FRUITFUL IN THAT
SEASON THAT HE WAS IN.

00:57:34.566 --> 00:57:35.733
AND THE NEXT
THING YOU KNOW,

00:57:35.833 --> 00:57:37.667
GOD BROUGHT HIM TO
A DIFFERENT SEASON.

00:57:37.767 --> 00:57:38.800
BUT I THINK AFTER AWHILE,


00:57:38.900 --> 00:57:41.266
WHEN YOU GO THROUGH
ENOUGH OF SUFFERING,

00:57:41.366 --> 00:57:44.134
GOD DETACHES
OUR FASCINATION

00:57:44.234 --> 00:57:45.533
WITH THE SEASON
THAT WE ARE IN.

00:57:45.633 --> 00:57:48.500
AND WE NO LONGER STAY
ATTACHED TO OUR SEASON.

00:57:48.600 --> 00:57:50.066
GOOD ONES OR BAD ONES.


00:57:50.166 --> 00:57:53.067
AND WE DEVELOP THIS
ATTACHMENT TO HIM.

00:57:53.167 --> 00:57:54.766
REBECCA: TO HIM.
THAT'S SO GOOD.

00:57:54.866 --> 00:57:57.434
AND WHAT JOSEPH
HAD TO REALIZE

00:57:57.534 --> 00:58:00.400
WAS HE COULD NOT MAKE
A WAY FOR HIMSELF.

00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:02.434
THAT WAS A LESSON THAT
HE HAD TO KEEP LEARNING

00:58:02.534 --> 00:58:03.466
BECAUSE HE WAS
IN THE PRISON.

00:58:03.566 --> 00:58:04.966
HE WAS LIKE, DON'T
FORGET ABOUT ME.

00:58:05.066 --> 00:58:07.333
AND HE HAD TO LEARN LIKE,
NO, GOD IS GONNA DO THIS

00:58:07.433 --> 00:58:08.900
AND HE'S GONNA
BRING IT ABOUT.

00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:10.833
AND WHEN JOSEPH
FINALLY SURRENDERED

00:58:10.933 --> 00:58:12.367
AND HE THOUGHT ALL
HOPE WAS LOST,

00:58:12.467 --> 00:58:14.900
THEY CALL HIM AND I MEAN
IMMEDIATELY SHOT UP

00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:16.966
FROM THE PRISON
TO THE PALACE.

00:58:17.066 --> 00:58:18.667
WHAT DO YOU FEEL LIKE
WERE SOME OF THE THINGS

00:58:18.767 --> 00:58:21.266
GOD DID IN
THAT TEN YEARS?

00:58:21.366 --> 00:58:23.400
VLADIMIR: WELL,
HE DEFINITELY,

00:58:23.500 --> 00:58:29.000
HE BROKE MY PASSION


00:58:29.100 --> 00:58:33.066
AND MY DESIRE TO
BE SUCCESSFUL.

00:58:33.166 --> 00:58:35.334
I FEEL LIKE I KIND OF MADE
IT INTO AN IDOL ALMOST,

00:58:35.434 --> 00:58:36.800
AND SO HE
DEFINITELY BROKE IT.

00:58:36.900 --> 00:58:39.467
SECONDLY, HE DEVELOPED
A GREATER HONOR

00:58:39.567 --> 00:58:41.233
IN MY HEART
TOWARD MY PASTOR,

00:58:41.333 --> 00:58:42.867
TOWARD MY PARENTS,


00:58:42.967 --> 00:58:45.333
TOWARD PEOPLE
IN AUTHORITY.

00:58:45.433 --> 00:58:46.700
HE DEVELOPED WITHIN ME


00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:50.267
ALSO A GREATER PERSISTENCE
AND PERSEVERANCE

00:58:50.367 --> 00:58:53.867
AND QUALITY TO ENDURE.


00:58:53.967 --> 00:58:58.667
BECAUSE NOW THAT I SEE A
GREATER AMOUNT OF SUCCESS,

00:58:58.767 --> 00:59:00.867
INFLUENCE, BLESSINGS,
EVEN MIRACLES,

00:59:00.967 --> 00:59:04.167
I STILL NEED AN ENDURANCE
TO, FOR EXAMPLE,

00:59:04.267 --> 00:59:06.000
TO BE ABLE TO SAY NO,


00:59:06.100 --> 00:59:07.934
AND KNOW THAT PEOPLE
ARE NOT GONNA LIKE IT.

00:59:08.034 --> 00:59:10.600
TO BE ABLE TO
CONTINUE TO PRESS IN

00:59:10.700 --> 00:59:12.466
WHEN THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO LIVE

00:59:12.566 --> 00:59:14.866
BY PRODUCING
VIDEOS EVERY DAY

00:59:14.966 --> 00:59:16.866
TO TRY TO DESTROY
MY REPUTATION

00:59:16.966 --> 00:59:17.900
OR DESTROY MY NAME


00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:20.400
OR TAKE THINGS THAT I
SAID OUT OF CONTEXT.

00:59:20.500 --> 00:59:22.033
AND THE CRITICISM
THAT COMES WITH IT.

00:59:22.133 --> 00:59:23.834
I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MANY
PEOPLE WILL NOT BE HAPPY

00:59:23.934 --> 00:59:25.066
THAT PEOPLE GET DELIVERED.


00:59:25.166 --> 00:59:26.000
HOW MUCH PEOPLE
WILL NOT BE HAPPY

00:59:26.100 --> 00:59:28.467
THAT PEOPLE ARE
GETTING TOUCHED.

00:59:28.567 --> 00:59:29.434
AND THAT COULD STING.


00:59:29.534 --> 00:59:30.666
THAT COULD HURT.


00:59:30.766 --> 00:59:32.033
BUT THE LORD WAS
TEACHING ME,

00:59:32.133 --> 00:59:33.633
HEY, I'M TAKING YOU
THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW.

00:59:33.733 --> 00:59:35.700
I'M DEVELOPING A
STRONGER SPINE,

00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:36.933
IF I COULD SAY.


00:59:37.033 --> 00:59:39.000
I'M DEVELOPING
THAT PERSISTENCE,

00:59:39.100 --> 00:59:40.833
PERSEVERANCE,
NOT TO BE MOODY,

00:59:40.933 --> 00:59:42.967
NOT TO BE DEPENDENT
ON YOUR FEELINGS,

00:59:43.067 --> 00:59:44.533
WHO COMES, WHO
DOESN'T COME.

00:59:44.633 --> 00:59:48.200
AND ALSO TO LOVE THOSE
PEOPLE THAT GOD ENTRUSTED ME,

00:59:48.300 --> 00:59:50.867
INSTEAD OF ALWAYS
ONLY LOVING PEOPLE

00:59:50.967 --> 00:59:53.600
WHO ARE NOT HERE YET.


00:59:53.700 --> 00:59:55.067
AND SO THERE WAS A
LOT OF THOSE LESSONS

00:59:55.167 --> 00:59:56.200
THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT.


00:59:56.300 --> 00:59:57.567
BUT ULTIMATELY, THE STATEMENT
THAT I LIKE TO USE

00:59:57.667 --> 01:00:00.333
IS THAT SLOW SUCCESS
GROWS OUR CHARACTER.

01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.400
AND QUICK SUCCESS,
IT GROWS OUR EGO.

01:00:03.500 --> 01:00:04.567
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:00:04.667 --> 01:00:06.400
IT'S LIKE AS YOU
WERE TALKING,

01:00:06.500 --> 01:00:08.233
I JUST THOUGHT OF
LIKE, A SHOOTING STAR.

01:00:08.333 --> 01:00:09.867
IT'S LIKE IF YOU JUST
HAVE ALL THE SUCCESS,

01:00:09.967 --> 01:00:11.700
THE SIGNS, THE WONDERS,
ALL THESE THINGS,

01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:12.666
YOU CAN JUST -


01:00:12.766 --> 01:00:13.767
IT'S BRIGHT AND
IT'S VIVID,

01:00:13.867 --> 01:00:15.134
BUT YOU JUST
BURN OUT QUICKLY.

01:00:15.234 --> 01:00:16.400
IT CONSUMES YOU.


01:00:16.500 --> 01:00:17.433
VLADIMIR: UH-HUH.


01:00:17.533 --> 01:00:18.633
REBECCA: AND SO GOD
HAD TO PREPARE YOU

01:00:18.733 --> 01:00:21.467
AND FORTIFY YOU FOR
WHAT WAS TO COME.

01:00:21.567 --> 01:00:24.067
SO YOU GO THROUGH
THIS TEN-YEAR PROCESS -

01:00:24.167 --> 01:00:25.100
BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT,


01:00:25.200 --> 01:00:27.233
I DO WANT YOU TO SPEAK
A LITTLE BIT ON HONOR

01:00:27.333 --> 01:00:29.100
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT

01:00:29.200 --> 01:00:32.167
FOR PEOPLE IN OUR
GENERATION AND YOUNGER,

01:00:32.267 --> 01:00:33.933
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO
BE IN THAT POSITION

01:00:34.033 --> 01:00:36.934
WHERE WE'RE GOING
TO BE UNDER SOMEONE.

01:00:37.034 --> 01:00:39.733
AND IT'S EASY TO
BE LIKE HONORING

01:00:39.833 --> 01:00:43.433
WHEN YOU LOVE THEM AND,
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS GREAT,

01:00:43.533 --> 01:00:44.534
BUT THERE'S GONNA
COME A TIME

01:00:44.634 --> 01:00:45.634
WHERE THE PEOPLE
OVER YOU,

01:00:45.734 --> 01:00:48.000
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE
WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

01:00:48.100 --> 01:00:51.433
SO HOW DO YOU HONOR THE
LEADERSHIP ABOVE YOU?

01:00:51.533 --> 01:00:53.667
VLADIMIR: IT STARTED FOR ME
IN MY PARENTS HOUSE

01:00:53.767 --> 01:00:54.900
WHEN I LIVED WITH THEM


01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:57.467
AND I WAS ALREADY
A YOUTH PASTOR.

01:00:57.567 --> 01:00:59.067
REBECCA: THAT MUST
HAVE BEEN INTERESTING.

01:00:59.167 --> 01:01:00.266
VLADIMIR: IN THIS
PARTICULAR INSTANCE,

01:01:00.366 --> 01:01:02.300
MY DAD AND MOM WERE
VERY CONSERVATIVE,

01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:03.667
SO THEY HAD A
PARTICULAR DRESS CODE

01:01:03.767 --> 01:01:05.767
THAT THEY EXPECTED ME
TO WEAR ON SUNDAY,

01:01:05.867 --> 01:01:07.500
WHICH WAS FINE.


01:01:07.600 --> 01:01:08.967
THE YOUTH SERVICE PART,


01:01:09.067 --> 01:01:10.133
THIS IS WHERE
THE PROBLEM WAS.

01:01:10.233 --> 01:01:12.166
BECAUSE I WANTED TO
DRESS UP LIKE, YOU KNOW,

01:01:12.266 --> 01:01:13.800
VERY CASUAL.


01:01:13.900 --> 01:01:16.100
AND ONE PARTICULAR
TIME, I THINK I WAS 17,

01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:17.767
I STILL LIVED
WITH MY PARENTS.

01:01:17.867 --> 01:01:19.200
I THINK I WAS JUST
OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL

01:01:19.300 --> 01:01:20.800
OR ABOUT TO GRADUATE.


01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:22.700
AND I DRESSED UP IN
THESE PANTS

01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:24.367
THAT I WOULD GO
AND WORK OUT WITH,

01:01:24.467 --> 01:01:26.200
AND I FELT LIKE THIS WOULD
BE REALLY COOL TO GO,

01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:27.300
PLUS, THEY WERE
COMFORTABLE.

01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:28.600
REBECCA: AND THAT'S
WHAT YOUTH PASTORS WEAR.

01:01:28.700 --> 01:01:29.533
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


01:01:29.633 --> 01:01:30.867
PLUS, THAT'S WHAT
YOUTH PASTORS WEAR.

01:01:30.967 --> 01:01:32.300
AND SO I'M ABOUT TO
GET OUT WITH MY BIBLE

01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:33.500
AND MY DAD IS LIKE,
WHERE ARE YOU GOING?

01:01:33.600 --> 01:01:34.967
I'M LIKE, WELL, I'M
GOING TO CHURCH,

01:01:35.067 --> 01:01:35.800
IT'S THURSDAY NIGHT,


01:01:35.900 --> 01:01:36.867
I'M THE YOUTH PASTOR.


01:01:36.967 --> 01:01:38.667
AND HE SAID, NOT
IN THOSE PANTS.

01:01:38.767 --> 01:01:39.467
AND I SAID, YES, DAD,


01:01:39.567 --> 01:01:41.767
IN THOSE PANTS
I'M GOING TO GO.

01:01:41.867 --> 01:01:44.300
AND I'M LITERALLY, PRETTY
MUCH SHUTTING MY DAD OFF.

01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.500
SO I GOT INTO MY CAR


01:01:46.600 --> 01:01:48.266
AND RIGHT BEFORE I PUT THE
KEY INTO THE IGNITION,

01:01:48.366 --> 01:01:49.367
I HEAR THE HOLY
SPIRIT SAY,

01:01:49.467 --> 01:01:50.900
HE SAID I'M GOING
TO LEAVE YOU

01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:52.400
AND YOU'RE GONNA
GO BY YOURSELF.

01:01:52.500 --> 01:01:54.166
NOT IN THE SENSE THAT HE
WILL LEAVE HIS PRESENCE,

01:01:54.266 --> 01:01:55.833
BUT HIS ANOINTING,


01:01:55.933 --> 01:01:57.234
AND YOU'RE GONNA
GO BY YOURSELF.

01:01:57.334 --> 01:01:59.400
AND I SAID, WHY?


01:01:59.500 --> 01:02:01.933
HE SAID YOU JUST
DISRESPECTED YOUR FATHER.

01:02:02.033 --> 01:02:03.500
AND I SAID, WELL,
MY DAD IS RELIGIOUS.

01:02:03.600 --> 01:02:05.300
IT'S A SPIRIT OF
RELIGION THAT'S UPON HIM.

01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:07.566
I WAS LIKE, MY DAD
DISRESPECTED YOU, LORD,

01:02:07.666 --> 01:02:09.733
BECAUSE YOUR WORD SAYS YOU
DON'T LOOK AT THE BODY,

01:02:09.833 --> 01:02:10.833
YOU LOOK AT THE HEART.


01:02:10.933 --> 01:02:13.033
YOU DON'T LOOK
AT THE CLOTHES.

01:02:13.133 --> 01:02:15.200
AND I FELT LIKE THE HOLY
SPIRIT PROMPTED ME BACK,

01:02:15.300 --> 01:02:16.367
AND HE SAYS, I ALSO SAID,


01:02:16.467 --> 01:02:17.767
HONOR YOUR FATHER
AND YOUR MOTHER.

01:02:17.867 --> 01:02:19.100
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:02:19.200 --> 01:02:20.533
VLADIMIR: AND THEN
THE MOST PAINFUL THING

01:02:20.633 --> 01:02:22.134
I FELT LIKE I HAD TO DO


01:02:22.234 --> 01:02:25.233
IS TO GO BACK
INTO THE HOUSE

01:02:25.333 --> 01:02:27.067
AND CHANGE TO SOMETHING
THAT MY PARENTS

01:02:27.167 --> 01:02:28.766
WOULD BE MORE
APPROVING OF.

01:02:28.866 --> 01:02:30.533
MY PARENTS WERE
NOT UNREASONABLE,

01:02:30.633 --> 01:02:33.300
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
SOME TOXIC UNREASONABLE.

01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.234
AND IT WAS THE
MOST PAINFUL THING,

01:02:35.334 --> 01:02:37.434
SEEING MY DAD
ON THE COUCH,

01:02:37.534 --> 01:02:40.367
AND SEEING HIS PRODIGAL
SON COMING BACK TO THE HOUSE.

01:02:40.467 --> 01:02:41.467
AND MY DAD HAD THIS,


01:02:41.567 --> 01:02:44.734
YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS
SCORNFUL, PROUD,

01:02:44.834 --> 01:02:46.766
LIKE HE CONQUERED
ME OR SOMETHING.

01:02:46.866 --> 01:02:49.267
LIKE HE, LIKE I'M A
PREY OR SOMETHING.

01:02:49.367 --> 01:02:51.000
LIKE, DAD JUST HURT ME.


01:02:51.100 --> 01:02:52.367
SO I'M WALKING
IN AND MY DAD,

01:02:52.467 --> 01:02:54.234
INSTEAD OF EMBRACING ME
LIKE A PRODIGAL SON,

01:02:54.334 --> 01:02:55.267
MY DAD IS LIKE,
THAT'S RIGHT,

01:02:55.367 --> 01:02:57.233
IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU
GUYS LEARNED THE RULES

01:02:57.333 --> 01:02:59.234
IN GOD'S HOUSE AND
STOP DISRESPECTING.

01:02:59.334 --> 01:03:00.434
AND HE KEEPS SAYING
THESE THINGS.

01:03:00.534 --> 01:03:01.833
AND I'M LITERALLY
LIKE, GOD,

01:03:01.933 --> 01:03:03.600
HELP ME NOT TO SAY
ANYTHING STUPID RIGHT NOW.

01:03:03.700 --> 01:03:04.567
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:03:04.667 --> 01:03:05.934
VLADIMIR: AND I
CHANGED, I WENT BACK,

01:03:06.034 --> 01:03:07.434
AND THEN HONESTLY,
LIKE THAT DAY WAS

01:03:07.534 --> 01:03:08.500
A POWERFUL YOUTH SERVICE.


01:03:08.600 --> 01:03:09.733
AND I STARTED TO
LEARN THAT

01:03:09.833 --> 01:03:11.700
CONCERNING THE NONESSENTIALS,


01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:13.466
REALLY, IF I'M
UNDER THEIR ROOF,

01:03:13.566 --> 01:03:15.000
TO HONOR AND
OBEY MY PARENTS.

01:03:15.100 --> 01:03:16.600
WHEN I MOVED OUT
OF THEIR HOUSE,

01:03:16.700 --> 01:03:17.800
TO STILL HONOR THEM.


01:03:17.900 --> 01:03:20.400
HONOR IS THE ATTITUDE,
OBEDIENCE IS THE ACTION.

01:03:20.500 --> 01:03:22.000
AND THEN WHEN
I STARTED TO -

01:03:22.100 --> 01:03:24.567
MY PASTOR WOULD LEAD ME.


01:03:24.667 --> 01:03:26.900
WHEN I BECAME A
LEAD PASTOR AT 30,

01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.500
SO I WANTED TO
PAY OFF THE BUILDING

01:03:29.600 --> 01:03:32.166
WITHIN THE FIRST
MONTH OF OUR FASTING.

01:03:32.266 --> 01:03:33.433
BECAUSE I WAS INSPIRED
BY ROBERT MORRIS,

01:03:33.533 --> 01:03:34.067
PASTOR ROBERT MORRIS.


01:03:34.167 --> 01:03:35.433
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:03:35.533 --> 01:03:36.500
VLADIMIR: SO
I HAD THIS IDEA.

01:03:36.600 --> 01:03:37.866
I'M GONNA HAVE ALL THE
SMALL GROUP LEADERS

01:03:37.966 --> 01:03:39.833
READ<i>THE BLESSED LIFE</i> BOOK.


01:03:39.933 --> 01:03:41.434
AND THEN AT THE
END OF THE MONTH,

01:03:41.534 --> 01:03:43.300
WE WILL DO A
FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN.

01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:45.166
WE ONLY HAD LIKE
$200,000 TO PAY OFF.

01:03:45.266 --> 01:03:46.733
I'M LIKE, WE
WILL PAY IT OFF.

01:03:46.833 --> 01:03:49.333
PLUS, I'VE BEEN ALREADY
DOING A LOT OF SACRIFICES,

01:03:49.433 --> 01:03:50.866
AS A YOUNG PASTOR
THROUGHOUT THE MINISTRY.

01:03:50.966 --> 01:03:52.500
SO I'M LIKE, I'M
GONNA DO A SACRIFICE.

01:03:52.600 --> 01:03:54.333
SO EVERYBODY'S ONBOARD.


01:03:54.433 --> 01:03:55.966
ALL THE LEADERS
ARE ONBOARD.

01:03:56.066 --> 01:03:57.766
THE WHOLE PASTORAL
TEAM IS ONBOARD.

01:03:57.866 --> 01:03:59.500
AND I'M LETTING
MY PASTOR KNOW

01:03:59.600 --> 01:04:01.400
THAT THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE GONNA DO.

01:04:01.500 --> 01:04:03.934
I'M THINKING, WHO
WILL BE AGAINST THAT?

01:04:04.034 --> 01:04:06.367
AND MY PASTOR
SAID, DUMB IDEA.

01:04:06.467 --> 01:04:07.700
HE SAYS, WE
SHOULDN'T DO THAT.

01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:09.000
HE SAID WE DON'T NEED TO
PAY OFF OUR BUILDING,

01:04:09.100 --> 01:04:10.766
OUR MORTGAGE
IS VERY SMALL.

01:04:10.866 --> 01:04:13.500
WE SHOULD INVEST THAT
MONEY INTO THIS AND THIS

01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:15.067
BECAUSE THIS IS MORE
IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW

01:04:15.167 --> 01:04:16.367
WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN THE WORLD.

01:04:16.467 --> 01:04:18.500
I REMEMBER, I WAS
SO FRUSTRATED.

01:04:18.600 --> 01:04:20.334
I'M LIKE, HE
DOESN'T HEAR GOD.

01:04:20.434 --> 01:04:21.867
AND HE JUST ASKED ME
TO BE A LEAD PASTOR,

01:04:21.967 --> 01:04:22.933
AND HE DOESN'T
EVEN TRUST ME.

01:04:23.033 --> 01:04:24.267
THIS IS SO WRONG.


01:04:24.367 --> 01:04:26.167
AND I MEAN, I HAD
THREE DAYS,

01:04:26.267 --> 01:04:27.700
JUST INWARD, OF COURSE,


01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:29.566
SMART ENOUGH NOT
TO VOCALIZE THAT,

01:04:29.666 --> 01:04:30.934
I WAS JUST LIKE,
YEAH, OKAY.

01:04:31.034 --> 01:04:32.233
LET ME HEAR YOUR ARGUMENT.


01:04:32.333 --> 01:04:33.666
AND I WENT TO THE LORD
AND I REALLY ASKED GOD,

01:04:33.766 --> 01:04:37.100
I'M LIKE, LORD, I FELT
LIKE THIS IS FROM YOU.

01:04:37.200 --> 01:04:39.400
AND I HUMBLED MYSELF,
I SUBMITTED MYSELF,

01:04:39.500 --> 01:04:41.167
AND I REALIZED HE
DOESN'T TRUST ME YET.

01:04:41.267 --> 01:04:43.133
AND INSTEAD OF THIS
BEING AN OFFENSE,

01:04:43.233 --> 01:04:45.333
TO REALIZE, OKAY, THAT
MEANS I NEED TO KEEP ON

01:04:45.433 --> 01:04:47.900
DEVELOPING THE TRUST AND
KEEP DEVELOPING THE FRUIT.

01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.600
TWO YEARS LATER, WE DID
THAT VERY THING

01:04:50.700 --> 01:04:52.367
WITH HIS BLESSING.


01:04:52.467 --> 01:04:53.833
THE WHOLE THING
WAS PAID OFF.

01:04:53.933 --> 01:04:55.167
AND NOW IT CAME
TO A POINT

01:04:55.267 --> 01:04:58.500
WHERE MY PASTOR
STARTED TO TRUST ME.

01:04:58.600 --> 01:05:00.200
NOT JUST PUT ME
IN THE POSITION

01:05:00.300 --> 01:05:01.233
BUT STARTED TO TRUST ME.


01:05:01.333 --> 01:05:03.466
AND WE DEVELOPED
EVEN THAT FRIENDSHIP.

01:05:03.566 --> 01:05:05.334
NO LONGER JUST A
MENTOR AND MENTEE.

01:05:05.434 --> 01:05:06.833
AND SO I HAD TO
GO THROUGH THAT

01:05:06.933 --> 01:05:08.700
EVEN AS A LEAD PASTOR,


01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.167
TO KIND OF STILL
DEVELOP THAT HONOR

01:05:11.267 --> 01:05:12.567
AND TO STAY HUMBLE.


01:05:12.667 --> 01:05:14.167
AND I THINK IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT FOR EVERY LEADER

01:05:14.267 --> 01:05:15.333
TO HAVE SOMEONE
IN THEIR LIFE

01:05:15.433 --> 01:05:18.167
WHO IS NOT SCARED
OF THEIR SUCCESS.

01:05:18.267 --> 01:05:19.267
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:05:19.367 --> 01:05:22.900
VLADIMIR: WHO CAN TELL
THEM STRAIGHT, WITH LOVE,

01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:24.533
SEASONED WITH GRACE,


01:05:24.633 --> 01:05:26.300
BUT COMPLETELY
NOT INTIMIDATED

01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.400
AND IS NOT GONNA
SUGAR COAT IT.

01:05:28.500 --> 01:05:29.933
WE'LL SEASON
IT WITH SALT,

01:05:30.033 --> 01:05:31.000
BUT NOT SUGARCOAT IT.


01:05:31.100 --> 01:05:33.100
TELL THEM, ESPECIALLY,
WHEN THE YOUNG LEADER

01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:34.834
STARTS TO RISE,


01:05:34.934 --> 01:05:36.633
WE NEED THAT PERSON,
OTHERWISE WE CAN FALL INTO

01:05:36.733 --> 01:05:38.367
THE SIN OF SATAN, OF PRIDE.


01:05:38.467 --> 01:05:40.567
REBECCA: THE SCARIEST
PLACE YOU COULD BE

01:05:40.667 --> 01:05:42.500
IS OUTSIDE THE COVERING.


01:05:42.600 --> 01:05:44.866
AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF
LEADERSHIP AND AUTHORITY

01:05:44.966 --> 01:05:46.634
AND SOMEONE BEING
OVER YOUR LIFE.

01:05:46.734 --> 01:05:47.666
AND IT'S NOT A GOOD THING


01:05:47.766 --> 01:05:50.867
TO BE OUT IN MINISTRY
AND LEADING A MINISTRY

01:05:50.967 --> 01:05:52.600
AND NOT HAVE ANY
KIND OF COVERING,

01:05:52.700 --> 01:05:53.767
BECAUSE YOU'RE EXPOSED.


01:05:53.867 --> 01:05:54.900
VLADIMIR:
YEAH, I BELIEVE.

01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:56.433
REBECCA: YOU HAD AN
ENCOUNTER WITH THE LORD

01:05:56.533 --> 01:06:01.167
WHERE YOU WERE STRUGGLING
WITH HONORING YOUR UNCLE

01:06:01.267 --> 01:06:03.467
AND YOU SAID THAT HE
GAVE YOU THIS REVELATION

01:06:03.567 --> 01:06:05.600
ABOUT ACTUALLY THE
DEVIL AND HEAVEN.

01:06:05.700 --> 01:06:06.800
CAN YOU TELL THAT STORY?


01:06:06.900 --> 01:06:07.733
VLADIMIR: YEAH.


01:06:07.833 --> 01:06:08.800
SO A LITTLE BIT
EARLIER BEFORE THAT,

01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:09.600
I WAS STILL A
YOUTH PASTOR

01:06:09.700 --> 01:06:10.967
AND I WAS TRAVELING.


01:06:11.067 --> 01:06:14.533
I ALREADY STARTED TO SEE
MORE MANIFESTATION

01:06:14.633 --> 01:06:16.766
OF HEALINGS AND DELIVERANCES
IN THE MINISTRY,

01:06:16.866 --> 01:06:18.200
SPECIFICALLY WHEN
I WOULD TRAVEL.

01:06:18.300 --> 01:06:19.567
I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF
THAT AT THE CHURCH YET,

01:06:19.667 --> 01:06:21.000
BUT WHEN I WAS TRAVELING.


01:06:21.100 --> 01:06:22.867
THIS ONE PARTICULAR
TIME I WAS MINISTERING

01:06:22.967 --> 01:06:24.600
AND THE LORD MOVED
POWERFULLY THAT NIGHT.

01:06:24.700 --> 01:06:25.800
PEOPLE WERE HEALED.


01:06:25.900 --> 01:06:27.400
IN FACT, THE MOMENT I
STEPPED AWAY FROM THE SERVICE,

01:06:27.500 --> 01:06:29.666
MY PASTOR CALLED ME.


01:06:29.766 --> 01:06:31.567
AND SOME AMAZING
HEALINGS HAPPENED.

01:06:31.667 --> 01:06:33.200
I MEAN, BLEW ME AWAY.


01:06:33.300 --> 01:06:35.233
SO I'M LIKE, LITERALLY
ON A SPIRITUAL HIGH.

01:06:35.333 --> 01:06:36.666
AND THEN MY
PASTOR CALLS ME

01:06:36.766 --> 01:06:38.600
AND HE ASKED SOMETHING
ABOUT THE CHURCH,

01:06:38.700 --> 01:06:39.667
AND THEN HE JUST
STARTED TO GIVE ME

01:06:39.767 --> 01:06:40.667
SOME OF THESE IDEAS,


01:06:40.767 --> 01:06:42.667
AND I WAS LIKE,
TOTALLY WRONG TIME.

01:06:42.767 --> 01:06:45.266
AND JUST, I FELT
SO IRRITATED,

01:06:45.366 --> 01:06:47.733
AND FELT SO UPSET.


01:06:47.833 --> 01:06:49.434
AGAIN, I SAID,
THANK YOU, DA, DA, DA,

01:06:49.534 --> 01:06:50.300
I'LL THINK ABOUT IT,


01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.300
WE'LL PRAY ABOUT IT.


01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:53.067
I HANG UP THE PHONE
AND ON THE INSIDE

01:06:53.167 --> 01:06:56.133
I JUST HAVE THIS FURY,


01:06:56.233 --> 01:06:57.300
FURIOUS WITH HIM.


01:06:57.400 --> 01:06:59.733
JUST ANGRY AT HIM.


01:06:59.833 --> 01:07:02.367
AND AN IDEA, LIKE, MAN,
HE DOESN'T RECOGNIZE

01:07:02.467 --> 01:07:04.067
THE ANOINTING
THAT I CARRY,

01:07:04.167 --> 01:07:06.166
LIKE HE SHOULD
HAVE REALIZED

01:07:06.266 --> 01:07:08.333
I JUST WALKED OFF THE
STAGE, PEOPLE GOT HEALED

01:07:08.433 --> 01:07:10.200
AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE,
VLAD, AWESOME JOB,

01:07:10.300 --> 01:07:11.266
GOD IS USING YOU,


01:07:11.366 --> 01:07:13.433
AND HERE'S PASTOR JUST
GRILLING ME ABOUT STUFF.

01:07:13.533 --> 01:07:16.000
AND IT HURT ME TO
THE POINT WHERE

01:07:16.100 --> 01:07:18.000
I STARTED TO EVEN
ENTERTAIN THAT NIGHT,

01:07:18.100 --> 01:07:19.533
MAYBE I JUST NEED
A DIFFERENT PASTOR

01:07:19.633 --> 01:07:20.967
AND DIFFERENT COVERING


01:07:21.067 --> 01:07:22.900
WHO CAN KIND OF KEEP
SEEING THE POTENTIAL,

01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:24.700
NOT KEEP SEEING
MY PROBLEMS.

01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:26.933
SOMEBODY WHO CAN
CALL THE KING IN ME,

01:07:27.033 --> 01:07:28.200
NOT THE KID IN ME.


01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:30.567
LIKE ALL OF THESE LITTLE
THINGS THAT I HAD

01:07:30.667 --> 01:07:31.900
THAT WERE NOT FROM GOD.


01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:35.300
AND I FELT THE HOLY SPIRIT
PRETTY MUCH REBUKE ME

01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:36.400
AT THAT POINT.


01:07:36.500 --> 01:07:38.434
AND HE SAID WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN YOUR HEART,

01:07:38.534 --> 01:07:39.700
HE SAYS YOUR HEART
IS GETTING SICK

01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:41.534
AND IT'S BEING SICK
WITH THE SAME SIN

01:07:41.634 --> 01:07:42.767
THAT OCCUPIED SATAN.


01:07:42.867 --> 01:07:45.667
SATAN WAS A
GLORIOUS ARCHANGEL

01:07:45.767 --> 01:07:47.100
AND HE BELIEVED IN
HIS OWN PRAISE,

01:07:47.200 --> 01:07:48.700
AND HE STARTED
TO TAKE THAT IN,

01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:50.933
AND STARTED TO THINK
THAT HE'S BETTER THAN.

01:07:51.033 --> 01:07:53.033
AND HE STARTED TO ATTEMPT
FOR THE GLORY OF GOD.

01:07:53.133 --> 01:07:54.767
AND HE SAID, THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT'S HAPPENING

01:07:54.867 --> 01:07:55.800
TO YOUR HEART.


01:07:55.900 --> 01:07:57.167
HE SAYS YOUR
GREATEST DANGER,

01:07:57.267 --> 01:07:58.533
YOU'RE FACING
THAT RIGHT NOW.

01:07:58.633 --> 01:07:59.900
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WERE
FACING AS A TEENAGER,

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:01.834
BULLYING AND
EVERYTHING, IT'S THIS.

01:08:01.934 --> 01:08:03.167
THE BULLYING WAS
EASY TO OVERCOME

01:08:03.267 --> 01:08:05.000
BECAUSE IT PUSHED
YOU TO YOUR KNEES.

01:08:05.100 --> 01:08:06.500
THIS IS HARDER BECAUSE
IT'S PULLING YOU

01:08:06.600 --> 01:08:07.367
FROM YOUR GROUND


01:08:07.467 --> 01:08:08.533
AND YOU'RE GONNA FLY OUT


01:08:08.633 --> 01:08:10.600
INTO SOME UNKNOWN SPACE.


01:08:10.700 --> 01:08:12.700
AND I REALLY -
IT SCARED ME.

01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:14.434
I GOT ON MY KNEES RIGHT
THERE AND I SAID,

01:08:14.534 --> 01:08:15.667
GOD, I DON'T WANT
TO BE THAT PERSON.

01:08:15.767 --> 01:08:18.300
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT
PRIDE IS AN OPEN DOOR.

01:08:18.400 --> 01:08:20.500
DESTRUCTION COMES
AFTER PRIDE.

01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:22.500
PRIDE OPENS THE
DOOR TO DESTRUCTION.

01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:24.200
IN ONE SHAPE AND FORM,


01:08:24.300 --> 01:08:25.467
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WAY,


01:08:25.567 --> 01:08:26.500
PRIDE IS GONNA OPEN THAT.


01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:28.100
AND I SAID, LORD,
I DO NOT WANT THAT.

01:08:28.200 --> 01:08:30.633
COULD YOU HELP ME?


01:08:30.733 --> 01:08:31.933
IN MY MIND, I'M
GONNA CALL MY UNCLE

01:08:32.033 --> 01:08:33.066
AND I'M JUST
GONNA APOLOGIZE

01:08:33.166 --> 01:08:34.500
FOR WHAT I FELT, EVEN
THOUGH HE DIDN'T

01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:36.067
GET THAT THROUGH THE PHONE.


01:08:36.167 --> 01:08:37.833
BUT I FELT THAT
I NEED TO PUT IT OUT.

01:08:37.933 --> 01:08:40.267
I NEED TO EXPOSE THE
UGLINESS ON MY HEART.

01:08:40.367 --> 01:08:41.667
I NEED TO EMBARRASS THAT.


01:08:41.767 --> 01:08:43.400
I KNOW IT'S
GONNA BE PAINFUL.

01:08:43.500 --> 01:08:44.333
AND I FELT THE LORD SAY,


01:08:44.433 --> 01:08:45.866
I WANT YOU TO GO DEEPER.


01:08:45.966 --> 01:08:47.667
AND I SAID, WHAT
ELSE COULD BE DEEPER?

01:08:47.767 --> 01:08:50.233
AND HE SAYS, I WANT
YOU TO TAKE A PORTION

01:08:50.333 --> 01:08:52.067
OF YOUR RESOURCES
EVERY MONTH

01:08:52.167 --> 01:08:54.067
AND I WANT YOU TO
BLESS YOUR PASTOR.

01:08:54.167 --> 01:08:55.800
AND I WAS LIKE,


01:08:55.900 --> 01:08:56.933
WELL, I DON'T DO THAT
KIND OF STUFF.

01:08:57.033 --> 01:08:58.000
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT -


01:08:58.100 --> 01:08:59.933
YOU KNOW, SO YOU WANT
TO GROW KIND OF STUFF.

01:09:00.033 --> 01:09:00.967
HE'S LIKE, NO, NO, NO.


01:09:01.067 --> 01:09:03.134
YOUR HEART NEEDS TO TURN
TOWARDS YOUR PASTOR

01:09:03.234 --> 01:09:05.600
BECAUSE IT'S TURNING
AWAY FROM HIM.

01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:08.034
HE SAYS, YOU'RE
BEGINNING TO DESPISE HIM

01:09:08.134 --> 01:09:10.633
AND YOUR RELATIONSHIP IS
GONNA BE MORE FRACTURED

01:09:10.733 --> 01:09:12.167
IF YOU CONTINUE
TO DO THIS.

01:09:12.267 --> 01:09:15.167
AND SO I FELT
TO GIVE TOWARD,

01:09:15.267 --> 01:09:16.934
TO BLESS HIM,
TO HONOR HIM.

01:09:17.034 --> 01:09:18.867
IT WASN'T TO BUY A
RELATIONSHIP OR ANYTHING

01:09:18.967 --> 01:09:19.800
OF THAT SORT,


01:09:19.900 --> 01:09:21.433
BUT IT WAS REALLY
TO EXPRESS MY HONOR

01:09:21.533 --> 01:09:24.034
SO THAT MY HEART CAN
STAY FOCUSED ON THAT.

01:09:24.134 --> 01:09:26.066
AND I CONTINUE TO DO THAT.


01:09:26.166 --> 01:09:28.800
AND I REALLY BELIEVE IN THE
IMPORTANCE OF HONORING,

01:09:28.900 --> 01:09:30.267
GIVING HONOR.


01:09:30.367 --> 01:09:32.033
AND SOMETIMES THE BIBLE
DOESN'T SAY

01:09:32.133 --> 01:09:33.166
TO HONOR YOUR PARENTS


01:09:33.266 --> 01:09:35.766
FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE
THEY'RE HONORABLE,

01:09:35.866 --> 01:09:37.233
OR HONORING.


01:09:37.333 --> 01:09:39.400
I BELIEVE THAT HONOR
SPEAKS MORE ABOUT

01:09:39.500 --> 01:09:41.000
THE PERSON GIVING IT


01:09:41.100 --> 01:09:42.633
THAN THE PERSON
RECEIVING IT.

01:09:42.733 --> 01:09:44.000
AS PEOPLE WOULD COME
UP AND SOMETIMES,

01:09:44.100 --> 01:09:45.533
I CAN'T HONOR MY PASTOR,


01:09:45.633 --> 01:09:46.800
IF YOU WOULD
KNOW WHO HE IS.

01:09:46.900 --> 01:09:48.600
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE
ARE TOXIC AUTHORITY,

01:09:48.700 --> 01:09:50.500
THAT IS TRUE, THERE'S SOME
AUTHORITY LIKE DAVID

01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:52.000
HAD TO RUN FROM SAUL.


01:09:52.100 --> 01:09:54.400
BUT DAVID NEVER
DISRESPECTED SAUL.

01:09:54.500 --> 01:09:55.333
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:09:55.433 --> 01:09:57.000
VLADIMIR: HE DISTANCED
HIMSELF FROM HIM.

01:09:57.100 --> 01:09:58.700
REBECCA: AND HE REALLY COULD
HAVE DISRESPECTED HIM.

01:09:58.800 --> 01:09:59.600
VLADIMIR: HE COULD
HAVE KILLED HIM.

01:09:59.700 --> 01:10:00.466
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:10:00.566 --> 01:10:01.433
VLADIMIR: BUT
HE NEVER HAD THAT.

01:10:01.533 --> 01:10:03.033
AND SO I THINK THAT
THERE ARE TIMES

01:10:03.133 --> 01:10:04.867
WHEN AUTHORITY IS
EXTREMELY TOXIC MAYBE,

01:10:04.967 --> 01:10:06.367
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT
THEY'RE NOT DOING WELL

01:10:06.467 --> 01:10:07.366
AND THEY'RE HURTING YOU,


01:10:07.466 --> 01:10:08.933
YEAH, YOU'VE GOT TO
DISTANCE YOURSELF.

01:10:09.033 --> 01:10:11.067
BUT THE MOMENT, MAYBE
EVEN GO AND FIND

01:10:11.167 --> 01:10:12.267
A DIFFERENT CHURCH.


01:10:12.367 --> 01:10:13.300
WE'RE NOT AGAINST THAT.


01:10:13.400 --> 01:10:14.600
THE CHURCH IS NOT
A COLOMBIAN CARTEL

01:10:14.700 --> 01:10:15.634
WHERE YOU CANNOT GET OUT


01:10:15.734 --> 01:10:16.967
WITHOUT GETTING
SHOT, YOU KNOW.

01:10:17.067 --> 01:10:19.467
BECAUSE SOME PASTORS
ACT LIKE GANGSTERS.

01:10:19.567 --> 01:10:20.267
THEY'RE LIKE, IF YOU GO,


01:10:20.367 --> 01:10:21.700
I'M GONNA CURSE YOU
AND STUFF.

01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:22.500
THAT'S DEMONIC.


01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:23.300
THAT'S WITCHCRAFT.


01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:24.633
THAT'S NOT RIGHT.


01:10:24.733 --> 01:10:27.267
BUT DISRESPECT IS THE
ISSUE OF THE HEART.

01:10:27.367 --> 01:10:29.067
AND I THINK THAT
GIVING RESPECT,

01:10:29.167 --> 01:10:31.067
SOME PEOPLE SAY WELL -


01:10:31.167 --> 01:10:33.266
THEY SAY I CAN'T
RESPECT THEM.

01:10:33.366 --> 01:10:34.966
RESPECT IS GIVEN.


01:10:35.066 --> 01:10:36.434
THEY HAVE TO EARN IT
A HUNDRED PERCENT.

01:10:36.534 --> 01:10:38.400
HONOR IS NOT EARNED.


01:10:38.500 --> 01:10:39.600
IT'S GIVEN.


01:10:39.700 --> 01:10:42.033
THAT MEANS YOU HONOR
BASED ON THE FACT

01:10:42.133 --> 01:10:44.233
YOU ARE AN
HONORING PERSON,

01:10:44.333 --> 01:10:45.533
NOT BASED ON THEM.


01:10:45.633 --> 01:10:47.034
THEY OCCUPY THE POSITION


01:10:47.134 --> 01:10:48.300
AND NOW YOU'RE
HONORING THEM.

01:10:48.400 --> 01:10:49.434
YOU GIVE THAT.


01:10:49.534 --> 01:10:51.067
THEY HAVE TO EARN RESPECT.


01:10:51.167 --> 01:10:54.233
AND YOU MAY BE A PERSON
WHO DOESN'T GIVE THEM RESPECT,

01:10:54.333 --> 01:10:57.633
BUT YOU NEVER SHOULD
WITHHOLD HONOR.

01:10:57.733 --> 01:10:58.833
BECAUSE ONCE
YOU GIVE HONOR,

01:10:58.933 --> 01:11:00.500
IT CHANGES YOU
AS A PERSON.

01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:02.233
IT VALIDATES
YOU AS A PERSON

01:11:02.333 --> 01:11:04.333
THAT WALKS UNDER THE
SUBMISSION OF GOD.

01:11:04.433 --> 01:11:07.767
AND ONE DAY WE WILL LIVE
TO SEE PEOPLE HONORING US.

01:11:07.867 --> 01:11:09.134
PEOPLE THAT WE WILL COVER.


01:11:09.234 --> 01:11:09.934
REBECCA: YEAH.


01:11:10.034 --> 01:11:10.800
AND YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.


01:11:10.900 --> 01:11:11.900
VLADIMIR: AND YOU
REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:12.967
REBECCA: AND THAT'S
WHAT I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT,

01:11:13.067 --> 01:11:16.000
HOW WOULD I WANT
TO BE TREATED?

01:11:16.100 --> 01:11:19.000
BECAUSE ONE DAY YOU'LL
BE IN THAT POSITION

01:11:19.100 --> 01:11:20.234
AS YOU GET OLDER.


01:11:20.334 --> 01:11:22.367
AND SO IT'S LIKE YOU
WANT TO BE HONORED.

01:11:22.467 --> 01:11:24.200
AND SO, AND YOU'RE RIGHT,
YOU DON'T HONOR PEOPLE

01:11:24.300 --> 01:11:25.234
BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT.


01:11:25.334 --> 01:11:26.434
YOU HONOR THEM BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT

01:11:26.534 --> 01:11:27.233
GOD'S WORD COMMANDS.


01:11:27.333 --> 01:11:28.200
VLADIMIR: THAT'S RIGHT.


01:11:28.300 --> 01:11:29.800
REBECCA: AND GOD
WILL BLESS YOU FOR THAT.

01:11:29.900 --> 01:11:30.900
VLADIMIR: THAT'S RIGHT.


01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:32.367
REBECCA: AND HONOR IS
THE WAY OF THE KINGDOM.

01:11:32.467 --> 01:11:33.233
VLADIMIR: THAT'S RIGHT.


01:11:33.333 --> 01:11:34.567
REBECCA: AND
JESUS HONORED THOSE

01:11:34.667 --> 01:11:36.600
WHO DID NOT NECESSARILY
DESERVE HONOR

01:11:36.700 --> 01:11:38.467
BUT THAT WAS WHO HE WAS


01:11:38.567 --> 01:11:39.766
BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY
OF THE KINGDOM.

01:11:39.866 --> 01:11:41.900
VLADIMIR: OR EVEN
THE EARTHLY AUTHORITY,

01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:43.933
HIS MOM AND DAD AT
12 YEARS OF AGE.

01:11:44.033 --> 01:11:45.033
REBECCA: AND HE WAS
THE SON OF GOD.

01:11:45.133 --> 01:11:46.034
VLADIMIR: HE WAS GOD.


01:11:46.134 --> 01:11:48.600
I MEAN, IMAGINE HIS
PARENTS TELLING GOD

01:11:48.700 --> 01:11:49.867
TO GO BACK TO THE HOUSE.


01:11:49.967 --> 01:11:50.900
I MEAN HE COULD
HAVE EVEN SAID,

01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:52.300
EXCUSE ME?


01:11:52.400 --> 01:11:54.700
I AM JEHOVAH, YOU KNOW.


01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.166
AND JEHOVAH WENT TO
BE WITH HIS PARENTS

01:11:57.266 --> 01:11:58.867
AND OBEYED THEIR
INSTRUCTION.

01:11:58.967 --> 01:12:02.033
AND THEN JESUS IS
DYING ON THE CROSS,

01:12:02.133 --> 01:12:03.167
AND HE DOES WHAT THE OLDEST
SON IS SUPPOSED TO DO,

01:12:03.233 --> 01:12:03.833
WHICH IS TO HONOR.


01:12:03.900 --> 01:12:05.000
BECAUSE THE JEWISH WAY,


01:12:05.100 --> 01:12:06.100
TO HONOR YOUR
FATHER AND MOTHER

01:12:06.200 --> 01:12:07.300
IT'S NOT ONLY, HEY,
AS A TEENAGER,

01:12:07.400 --> 01:12:08.633
DON'T BE A SPOILED BRAT.


01:12:08.733 --> 01:12:10.633
IT ALSO MEANS YOU'RE
THEIR RETIREMENT.

01:12:10.733 --> 01:12:12.700
MEANING YOU TAKE CARE OF
THEM WHEN THEY'RE OLD.

01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.267
SO JESUS IS ON THE CROSS.


01:12:14.367 --> 01:12:16.400
HE KNOWS THAT
HE'S GONNA DIE.

01:12:16.500 --> 01:12:18.867
HIS MAMA, MOST LIKELY
JOSEPH ALREADY PASSED AWAY,

01:12:18.967 --> 01:12:20.034
SO MAMA IS STANDING THERE.


01:12:20.134 --> 01:12:22.467
HE'S ARRANGING
HOUSING FOR HIS MOM

01:12:22.567 --> 01:12:24.400
WHILE DYING ON THE CROSS.


01:12:24.500 --> 01:12:26.767
HE'S SUBMITTING TO THE
WILL OF HIS HEAVENLY FATHER,

01:12:26.867 --> 01:12:29.433
AND HE'S ALSO
HONORING HIS MOM

01:12:29.533 --> 01:12:31.700
BY PROVIDING, MAKING SURE
SHE HAS A PLACE TO LIVE,

01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:33.300
ASKING JOHN, CAN
YOU TAKE MARY?

01:12:33.400 --> 01:12:35.133
MARY, CAN YOU GO
AND BE THERE,

01:12:35.233 --> 01:12:36.633
SO THAT SHE CAN BE
WELL TAKEN CARE OF.

01:12:36.733 --> 01:12:38.067
SO JESUS IS A
BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE

01:12:38.167 --> 01:12:40.467
OF HONORING AUTHORITY THAT
GOD GIVES IN OUR LIFE.

01:12:40.567 --> 01:12:41.467
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

01:12:41.567 --> 01:12:43.667
YOU HAVE A BOOK,
<i>HOST THE HOLY GHOST.</i>

01:12:43.767 --> 01:12:44.900
THIS JUST CAME OUT.


01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:46.066
VLADIMIR: YES.


01:12:46.166 --> 01:12:47.200
REBECCA: FOR THOSE WHO ARE
INTERESTED IN GETTING IT,

01:12:47.300 --> 01:12:48.667
WHERE CAN THEY GET IT?


01:12:48.767 --> 01:12:50.600
VLADIMIR: SO IT'S
AVAILABLE ON AMAZON.

01:12:50.700 --> 01:12:52.067
IT'S AVAILABLE IN BARNES
AND NOBLE AS WELL.

01:12:52.167 --> 01:12:53.533
WE'RE PRETTY MUCH
ANYWHERE ONLINE.

01:12:53.633 --> 01:12:56.433
BUT AMAZON PROBABLY IS GONNA
HAVE THE FASTEST SHIPPING.

01:12:56.533 --> 01:13:00.033
IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE
ON KINDLE AND AUDIBLE.

01:13:00.133 --> 01:13:02.766
AND IN RUSSIAN, IN
SPANISH, GERMAN,

01:13:02.866 --> 01:13:06.633
VIETNAMESE,
ROMANIAN, UKRAINIAN,

01:13:06.733 --> 01:13:08.100
AND I THINK ABOUT
FOUR OTHER LANGUAGES

01:13:08.200 --> 01:13:09.467
ARE CURRENTLY
BEING TRANSLATED.

01:13:09.567 --> 01:13:10.600
REBECCA: WOW.


01:13:10.700 --> 01:13:12.567
VLADIMIR: AND IT'S AVAILABLE
FOR A FREE DOWNLOAD

01:13:12.667 --> 01:13:14.900
ON HOSTTHEHOLYGHOST,


01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:15.800
NO STRINGS ATTACHED,


01:13:15.900 --> 01:13:16.967
SOMEBODY CAN GO IN
AND DOWNLOAD IT.

01:13:17.067 --> 01:13:17.933
THE ONLY THING I ASK IS


01:13:18.033 --> 01:13:19.200
IF YOU DOWNLOAD
IT FOR FREE,

01:13:19.300 --> 01:13:21.033
YOU DON'T SELL IT,
JUST GIVE IT FOR FREE.

01:13:21.133 --> 01:13:22.066
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.


01:13:22.166 --> 01:13:23.200
OKAY.


01:13:23.300 --> 01:13:24.933
I WANT YOU TO
TELL THE STORY,

01:13:25.033 --> 01:13:26.667
THE STORY OF WHERE YOU
BASICALLY HAD TO LEARN

01:13:26.767 --> 01:13:27.934
THAT YOU NEEDED TO LEARN


01:13:28.034 --> 01:13:30.533
WHO THE HOLY SPIRIT
WAS AS A PERSON.

01:13:30.633 --> 01:13:33.333
VLADIMIR: SO IT WAS
AFTER I WAS ALREADY MARRIED

01:13:33.433 --> 01:13:35.233
AND IN THE
YOUTH MINISTRY,

01:13:35.333 --> 01:13:36.600
I DIDN'T SEE THE RESULTS


01:13:36.700 --> 01:13:39.000
THAT I KNEW THE LORD
PROMISED FOR US.

01:13:39.100 --> 01:13:39.967
AND I WAS HUNGRY FOR IT,


01:13:40.067 --> 01:13:41.733
HUNGRY FOR REVIVAL.


01:13:41.833 --> 01:13:43.300
REBECCA: HOW OLD
WERE YOU AT THIS POINT?

01:13:43.400 --> 01:13:48.034
VLADIMIR: SO THIS
WAS ABOUT 26, 27.

01:13:48.134 --> 01:13:51.700
SO ABOUT 11, 10,
11 YEARS ALREADY

01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:54.000
BEING IN THE
YOUTH MINISTRY.

01:13:54.100 --> 01:13:57.166
AND I WOULD SAY MY DESPERATION
REACHED ITS PEAK,

01:13:57.266 --> 01:13:59.967
TO THE POINT WHERE
I WANTED TO -

01:14:00.067 --> 01:14:01.433
A LITTLE BACKGROUND.


01:14:01.533 --> 01:14:05.066
WE WOULD GO FOR A YEAR
WITHOUT SEEING SALVATIONS.

01:14:05.166 --> 01:14:06.200
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


01:14:06.300 --> 01:14:07.367
VLADIMIR: WE WOULD
GO FOR TWO YEARS

01:14:07.467 --> 01:14:10.433
WITHOUT WATER BAPTISMS.


01:14:10.533 --> 01:14:14.000
I PREACHED AS HARD
AS I PREACHED TODAY.

01:14:14.100 --> 01:14:16.100
ACTUALLY I PREACHED
HARDER DURING THAT TIME.

01:14:16.200 --> 01:14:17.833
I USED ALL THE
CREATIVE THINGS

01:14:17.933 --> 01:14:18.834
AS A YOUTH PASTOR.


01:14:18.934 --> 01:14:20.366
I BROUGHT A PIG
TO THE SERVICE.

01:14:20.466 --> 01:14:21.767
I BROUGHT A SHEEP
TO THE SERVICE.

01:14:21.867 --> 01:14:23.133
I CAME WITH A MOTORCYCLE.


01:14:23.233 --> 01:14:25.300
I MEAN, I DID ALL KINDS
OF CREATIVE THINGS.

01:14:25.400 --> 01:14:27.433
FEAR FACTORS,
COMMUNITY THINGS.

01:14:27.533 --> 01:14:29.766
IT WASN'T THAT I WAS
IDLY JUST DOING NOTHING

01:14:29.866 --> 01:14:30.600
AND JUST HOPING
FOR REVIVAL.

01:14:30.700 --> 01:14:32.567
I DID EVERYTHING I COULD.


01:14:32.667 --> 01:14:34.767
I FELT LIKE THERE WAS
THIS SPIRITUAL RESISTANCE.

01:14:34.867 --> 01:14:36.400
WE BROKE THE CURSES.


01:14:36.500 --> 01:14:37.567
CURSED THOSE DEMONS.


01:14:37.667 --> 01:14:39.533
SHUT DOWN THE
JERICHO WALLS.

01:14:39.633 --> 01:14:41.100
NAME IT, CLAIM IT.


01:14:41.200 --> 01:14:42.467
WE DID ALL OF THE STUFF


01:14:42.567 --> 01:14:46.067
AND I JUST COULD NOT
GET THE BREAKTHROUGH.

01:14:46.167 --> 01:14:47.300
ON MY WAY TO CALIFORNIA,


01:14:47.400 --> 01:14:49.400
I HEAR A PODCAST.


01:14:49.500 --> 01:14:50.833
AND MAYBE THE LORD WILL
USE THIS PODCAST

01:14:50.933 --> 01:14:52.333
FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.


01:14:52.433 --> 01:14:53.733
I HEAR THE PODCAST
OF A PASTOR

01:14:53.833 --> 01:14:56.767
WHOSE NAME STARTS THE
SAME WAY MY NAME STARTS

01:14:56.867 --> 01:14:57.700
IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY,


01:14:57.800 --> 01:14:59.466
THE COUNTRY I COME FROM.


01:14:59.566 --> 01:15:02.166
AND HE SHARES A STORY THAT
HE HAD A SIMILAR THING,

01:15:02.266 --> 01:15:04.500
HAD 150 PEOPLE, JUST A
LITTLE BIT MORE PEOPLE

01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:08.367
AND HE COULD NOT, COULDN'T
HAVE A BREAKTHROUGH.

01:15:08.467 --> 01:15:11.000
HIS MOM DIES, LEAVES
HIM AN APARTMENT.

01:15:11.100 --> 01:15:12.466
AND THEN HE SELLS
THAT APARTMENT,

01:15:12.566 --> 01:15:14.767
AND THIS WAS ABOUT 20
YEARS AGO, THAT STORY,

01:15:14.867 --> 01:15:16.267
WHEN HE WAS TALKING -


01:15:16.367 --> 01:15:17.634
WHEN HE WAS REFERRING
TO THE STORY.

01:15:17.734 --> 01:15:21.333
SO $10,000 IN
UKRAINE 20 YEARS AGO

01:15:21.433 --> 01:15:23.533
IS A LOT OF MONEY.


01:15:23.633 --> 01:15:25.000
AND HE FELT INSTEAD OF


01:15:25.100 --> 01:15:26.433
GETTING THAT
APARTMENT FOR HIMSELF,

01:15:26.533 --> 01:15:28.067
HE NEEDED TO SELL
THAT APARTMENT

01:15:28.167 --> 01:15:29.333
AND GIVE IT TO THE
KINGDOM OF GOD.

01:15:29.433 --> 01:15:31.667
NOT TO HIS MINISTRY,
SOMEONE ELSE'S MINISTRY

01:15:31.767 --> 01:15:33.833
AND ASK FOR SOMEBODY
TO PRAY FOR HIM.

01:15:33.933 --> 01:15:35.300
AND SO I'M HEARING THIS
STORY AND I'M THINKING,

01:15:35.400 --> 01:15:36.867
WOW, THAT'S REALLY COOL.


01:15:36.967 --> 01:15:37.867
BUT IN THE BACK OF
MY HEAD I'M LIKE,

01:15:37.967 --> 01:15:39.600
MAN, THAT'S LIKE SOME,


01:15:39.700 --> 01:15:41.233
SOW MONEY SO YOU CAN
GET THE ANOINTING.

01:15:41.333 --> 01:15:43.067
I'M LIKE, MAN, THIS
KIND OF SOUNDS FISHY.

01:15:43.167 --> 01:15:45.700
AND I HEAR, I HONESTLY
FELT THE HOLY SPIRIT

01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:46.966
PROMPTED ME


01:15:47.066 --> 01:15:48.933
THAT I NEED TO
DO THE SAME.

01:15:49.033 --> 01:15:52.666
AND I HAD ABOUT
$10,000 IN MY ACCOUNT.

01:15:52.766 --> 01:15:55.167
UP TO THIS POINT,


01:15:55.267 --> 01:15:58.533
I HAVE NEVER GIVEN
ABOVE MY TITHE.

01:15:58.633 --> 01:15:59.533
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


01:15:59.633 --> 01:16:02.200
VLADIMIR: I WAS
LEGALISTIC IN TITHING,

01:16:02.300 --> 01:16:04.600
BUT I WAS NOT GENEROUS.


01:16:04.700 --> 01:16:08.167
MY WIFE CALLED ME STINGY
BECAUSE I WAS

01:16:08.267 --> 01:16:10.467
ACTUALLY VERY STINGY.


01:16:10.567 --> 01:16:14.367
I JUSTIFIED IT BY
SAYING I WAS FRUGAL.

01:16:14.467 --> 01:16:17.200
SO THE IDEA OF
TAKING FOUR YEARS -

01:16:17.300 --> 01:16:19.200
FOUR YEARS' SAVINGS -


01:16:19.300 --> 01:16:20.733
REBECCA: THAT'S A LOT.


01:16:20.833 --> 01:16:22.867
VLADIMIR: IT GAVE ME
ALMOST A HEART ATTACK.

01:16:22.967 --> 01:16:26.834
SO I RIGHT AWAY DISCARD
IT AS THE DEMONIC VOICE,

01:16:26.934 --> 01:16:28.767
STEALING, KILLING
AND DESTRUCTION.

01:16:28.867 --> 01:16:29.667
BECAUSE I'M THINKING THE
DEVIL WANTS TO

01:16:29.767 --> 01:16:31.634
STEAL MY SAVINGS,
DESTROY MY FUTURE.

01:16:31.734 --> 01:16:33.800
SO I RATIONALIZE
IT AND I SAID,

01:16:33.900 --> 01:16:36.167
GOD WILL NEVER ASK ME
TO DO THAT.

01:16:36.267 --> 01:16:37.667
IN HIS WORD HE SAYS,


01:16:37.767 --> 01:16:38.900
IN THE HOUSE
OF THE RIGHTEOUS,

01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:42.833
THERE ARE STORED SILVER
AND YOU HAVE TO SAVE.

01:16:42.933 --> 01:16:44.600
SO I GET TO THIS
CONFERENCE,

01:16:44.700 --> 01:16:46.833
AND IT'S LIKE, GOD JUST -


01:16:46.933 --> 01:16:48.167
EVERY SINGLE TIME
I SPEAK IT,

01:16:48.267 --> 01:16:50.100
IT JUST KEEPS
COMING, KEEPS COMING.

01:16:50.200 --> 01:16:51.267
IT GOT SO PAINFUL.


01:16:51.367 --> 01:16:51.933
REBECCA: IT WAS
LIKE IT WASN'T -

01:16:52.033 --> 01:16:52.800
IT WAS LIKE, INCESSANT.


01:16:52.900 --> 01:16:54.066
VLADIMIR: IT
WOULDN'T LEAVE.

01:16:54.166 --> 01:16:55.133
TO THE POINT THAT
I'M THINKING,

01:16:55.233 --> 01:16:56.033
THESE ARE LIKE
INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS

01:16:56.133 --> 01:16:58.134
AND THAT'S NOT
EVEN NORMAL.

01:16:58.234 --> 01:17:01.267
BUT I KNEW IN MY HEART
THAT THIS WASN'T FROM ME,

01:17:01.367 --> 01:17:04.867
AND I KNEW THE DEVIL
WOULD NEVER HAVE ME GIVE.

01:17:04.967 --> 01:17:06.934
I KNEW ENOUGH
THEOLOGY TO KNOW

01:17:07.034 --> 01:17:09.133
THAT THIS IS MOST
LIKELY LEANING TOWARD

01:17:09.233 --> 01:17:11.567
A DIRECTION I DO NOT
WANT TO GO.

01:17:11.667 --> 01:17:13.400
AND SO, BUT THESE WERE
NOT JUST MY SAVINGS,

01:17:13.500 --> 01:17:14.767
IT'S MY WIFE'S AS WELL.


01:17:14.867 --> 01:17:16.833
SO I MADE THIS DEAL
WITH THE LORD,

01:17:16.933 --> 01:17:19.367
THAT IF I COME HOME
AND I ASK MY WIFE,

01:17:19.467 --> 01:17:21.334
AND SHE JUMPS AT
IT RIGHT AWAY

01:17:21.434 --> 01:17:24.167
WITHOUT PRAYING ABOUT IT,


01:17:24.267 --> 01:17:25.600
THEN THIS IS FROM GOD.


01:17:25.700 --> 01:17:27.034
IF SHE SAYS, WE NEED TO
PRAY ABOUT IT

01:17:27.134 --> 01:17:28.233
FOR A FEW DAYS,


01:17:28.333 --> 01:17:31.067
THEN I HOPE I CAN
TALK HER OUT OF IT.

01:17:31.167 --> 01:17:33.300
BECAUSE I'M LIKE,
THIS IS TOO RISKY.

01:17:33.400 --> 01:17:34.233
THAT'S ALL MY MONEY.


01:17:34.333 --> 01:17:35.433
I DON'T HAVE PROSPECTS.


01:17:35.533 --> 01:17:36.500
I WAS GETTING PAID
VERY LITTLE

01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:37.533
AT THE CHURCH AS WELL.


01:17:37.633 --> 01:17:38.800
AND THE CHURCH WASN'T GROWING.


01:17:38.900 --> 01:17:39.800
I'M A YOUTH PASTOR


01:17:39.900 --> 01:17:41.600
AND WE'RE IN A
SMALLER TOWN.

01:17:41.700 --> 01:17:43.367
AND I'M LIKE, I'M NOT
GONNA THROW THIS AWAY.

01:17:43.467 --> 01:17:45.200
I'VE DONE EVERYTHING.


01:17:45.300 --> 01:17:46.300
NOTHING'S GONNA CHANGE.


01:17:46.400 --> 01:17:48.767
PLUS, I RECEIVED IMPARTATION
FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

01:17:48.867 --> 01:17:51.833
LIKE I RATIONALIZED,
THIS STUFF DOESN'T WORK.

01:17:51.933 --> 01:17:53.667
WE FLY TO THIS COUNTRY.


01:17:53.767 --> 01:17:55.700
WE TAKE THE RESOURCES.


01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:56.533
REBECCA:
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

01:17:56.633 --> 01:17:57.767
NO, NO, NO.


01:17:57.867 --> 01:17:59.100
SO YOU'VE GOT
YOU GO TO YOUR WIFE.

01:17:59.200 --> 01:17:59.900
VLADIMIR: THAT'S RIGHT.


01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.033
I GO TO MY WIFE,


01:18:02.133 --> 01:18:03.366
AND I ALSO DON'T WANT
TO COME IN AND SAY,

01:18:03.466 --> 01:18:05.034
HEY, LET'S GIVE
OUR SAVINGS AWAY.

01:18:05.134 --> 01:18:06.400
SO I'M DOING THIS, LIKE
WALKING AROUND

01:18:06.500 --> 01:18:07.700
BEHIND THE BUSH


01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:08.800
AND JUST SAYING
ALL THESE THINGS.

01:18:08.900 --> 01:18:10.100
LIKE, HEY, WHAT
IF, YOU KNOW,

01:18:10.200 --> 01:18:11.133
IT'S BEEN SOME TIME,


01:18:11.233 --> 01:18:12.833
WHAT IF WE MAYBE ONE TIME
TAKE JUST ONE YEAR

01:18:12.933 --> 01:18:14.600
AND JUST DO SOMETHING
RADICAL FOR GOD,

01:18:14.700 --> 01:18:16.067
MAYBE LIKE IN THE FUTURE?


01:18:16.167 --> 01:18:18.367
AND SHE'S NOTICING
I'M NERVOUS

01:18:18.467 --> 01:18:19.333
AND I'M TRYING
TO SAY SOMETHING.

01:18:19.433 --> 01:18:21.600
SHE'S LIKE, WHAT ARE
YOU TRYING TO SAY?

01:18:21.700 --> 01:18:24.233
AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT I'M
TRYING TO SAY IS THAT,

01:18:24.333 --> 01:18:26.000
I WANT US TO
TAKE OUR SAVINGS

01:18:26.100 --> 01:18:27.667
AND I WANT US TO GO
TO ANOTHER MINISTRY

01:18:27.767 --> 01:18:30.800
AND COMPLETELY, ALL
OF IT, GIVE IT AWAY.

01:18:30.900 --> 01:18:34.100
AND FORGET ABOUT US HAVING
A HOME THAT WE WANT.

01:18:34.200 --> 01:18:36.266
AND I SAID, AND HOPE
THAT GOD WILL BRING US

01:18:36.366 --> 01:18:37.400
A BREAKTHROUGH
IN THE MINISTRY

01:18:37.500 --> 01:18:38.466
THAT WE'RE CALLED TO BE IN.


01:18:38.566 --> 01:18:41.167
WE'RE NOT REAL ESTATE
AGENTS, WE'RE PASTORS.

01:18:41.267 --> 01:18:42.400
AND WE'RE NOT SEEING
THE BREAKTHROUGH.

01:18:42.500 --> 01:18:45.500
AND JUST PRETTY MUCH
THROW OURSELVES

01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:47.300
AND HOPE GOD
WILL CATCH US.

01:18:47.400 --> 01:18:49.533
SHE'S LIKE, DO YOU FEEL
LIKE GOD IS TELLING YOU THAT?

01:18:49.633 --> 01:18:53.400
AND I SAID, I'M NOT
CERTAIN, BUT I THINK SO.

01:18:53.500 --> 01:18:55.800
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO
THROW THIS GOD TOLD ME

01:18:55.900 --> 01:18:57.967
BECAUSE THEN SHE WILL
EVEN HAVE NO ABILITY

01:18:58.067 --> 01:18:59.267
TO RESPOND BACK
WITHOUT FEELING

01:18:59.367 --> 01:19:01.000
SHE'S IGNORING GOD.


01:19:01.100 --> 01:19:02.334
PLUS I WASN'T CERTAIN.


01:19:02.434 --> 01:19:03.400
I WAS NOT SURE.


01:19:03.500 --> 01:19:05.900
I WENT ON MAYBE.


01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:07.367
AND WE TOOK THAT,


01:19:07.467 --> 01:19:09.500
BUT MY DESPERATION AND
HUNGER WAS SO GREAT

01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:12.466
THAT I WAS WILLING
TO DO WHAT IT TAKES.

01:19:12.566 --> 01:19:13.834
AND WE FLEW THERE.


01:19:13.934 --> 01:19:16.233
THIS PASTOR, HE
PRAYED FOR ME

01:19:16.333 --> 01:19:18.700
A MINUTE AND 25
SECOND PRAYER.

01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:19.800
IT WAS NOT A LONG PRAYER.


01:19:19.900 --> 01:19:21.433
I WAS LIKE, MAN, I FLEW
FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY.

01:19:21.533 --> 01:19:23.634
REBECCA: YOU'RE LIKE, I
DID ALL OF THIS FOR THIS?

01:19:23.734 --> 01:19:24.433
VLADIMIR: AND
HE PRAYS FOR ME.

01:19:24.533 --> 01:19:26.334
I HAVE IT RECORDED
ON MY PHONE.

01:19:26.434 --> 01:19:28.766
THEN HE GIVES ME JUST A
VERY SIMPLE INSTRUCTION.

01:19:28.866 --> 01:19:31.134
AND THAT REALLY
OFFENDED ME.

01:19:31.234 --> 01:19:31.867
REBECCA: DID YOU
FEEL GOD'S PRESENCE

01:19:31.967 --> 01:19:32.834
WHEN HE PRAYED FOR YOU?


01:19:32.934 --> 01:19:33.900
VLADIMIR: NOPE.


01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:34.767
REBECCA: SEE, THAT
JUST SHOWS

01:19:34.867 --> 01:19:35.767
YOU DON'T ALWAYS FEEL IT.


01:19:35.867 --> 01:19:36.734
VLADIMIR: ABSOLUTELY.


01:19:36.834 --> 01:19:38.234
AND I ACTUALLY
DIDN'T SHAKE,

01:19:38.334 --> 01:19:39.767
DIDN'T FEEL FIRE, NOTHING.


01:19:39.867 --> 01:19:40.600
I MEAN, IT WAS -


01:19:40.700 --> 01:19:42.567
IT WAS AT THE
DINNER TABLE.

01:19:42.667 --> 01:19:44.866
THEY BROUGHT ME IN
AND I WAS LIKE,

01:19:44.966 --> 01:19:45.567
MAN, THAT'S NOT HOW
IMPARTATION

01:19:45.667 --> 01:19:46.667
IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE.


01:19:46.767 --> 01:19:48.300
I'M SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE,
ON THE FLOOR THREE DAYS

01:19:48.400 --> 01:19:49.700
UNDER THE POWER OF GOD.


01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:52.566
I WAS LIKE, I'M DEFINITELY
NOT RECEIVING ANYTHING.

01:19:52.666 --> 01:19:54.667
REBECCA: AND SO YOU FELT
OFFENDED FOR A MOMENT.

01:19:54.767 --> 01:19:56.500
VLADIMIR: BECAUSE OF THE
INSTRUCTION HE GAVE ME.

01:19:56.600 --> 01:19:57.567
THE INSTRUCTION
HE GAVE ME,

01:19:57.667 --> 01:19:59.234
HE SAID, I WANT
YOU, NUMBER ONE,

01:19:59.334 --> 01:20:00.700
HE SAID, I WANT YOU TO
GIVE A CALL FOR SALVATION

01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:02.066
EVERY TIME YOU PREACH.


01:20:02.166 --> 01:20:03.733
NUMBER TWO, PRAY FOR THE SICK
EVERY TIME YOU PREACH.

01:20:03.833 --> 01:20:05.634
AND NUMBER THREE, CHANGE
YOUR PRAYER FROM,

01:20:05.734 --> 01:20:07.900
GOD, GIVE ME POWER,


01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:11.334
TO, LORD, I WANT TO
KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT.

01:20:11.434 --> 01:20:12.566
AND SO I'M LIKE, OKAY,
ALTAR CALL,

01:20:12.666 --> 01:20:13.900
PRAYER FOR HEALING,
NO PROBLEM.

01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:15.433
I SAID THE LAST
ONE, I WAS LIKE,

01:20:15.533 --> 01:20:16.533
I KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT.


01:20:16.633 --> 01:20:18.200
I KNOW A LOT OF STUFF
ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT.

01:20:18.300 --> 01:20:20.466
AND HE SAYS,
NO, YOU DON'T.

01:20:20.566 --> 01:20:24.334
HE SAYS, THE SOURCE OF
POWER IS NOT IN POWER.

01:20:24.434 --> 01:20:25.933
IT'S IN THE PERSON.


01:20:26.033 --> 01:20:27.500
AND THERE'S ONE
PERSON GOD ENTRUSTED

01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:29.900
AS THE MANAGER OF
ALL HIS WEALTH.

01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:31.334
AND THAT'S HIS
HOLY SPIRIT.

01:20:31.434 --> 01:20:33.066
HE SAID HE IS THE MANAGER


01:20:33.166 --> 01:20:34.167
OF ALL THAT.


01:20:34.267 --> 01:20:35.634
GOD THE FATHER
MAKES THE SHOTS.

01:20:35.734 --> 01:20:36.866
JESUS EXECUTES,


01:20:36.966 --> 01:20:38.766
AND THE SPIRIT IS
THE ONE THAT DISTRIBUTES

01:20:38.866 --> 01:20:39.933
ALL OF THAT.


01:20:40.033 --> 01:20:41.634
HE SAYS GET TO
KNOW THE MANAGER.

01:20:41.734 --> 01:20:42.733
HE'S HERE ON EARTH.


01:20:42.833 --> 01:20:44.033
HE LIVES INSIDE OF YOU.


01:20:44.133 --> 01:20:47.233
AND SO I KIND OF
SWALLOWED THAT OFFENSE,

01:20:47.333 --> 01:20:50.534
WENT BACK HOME AND
I STARTED TO PRAY,

01:20:50.634 --> 01:20:53.400
ASK THE LORD, READ BOOKS
ON THE HOLY SPIRIT AS WELL.

01:20:53.500 --> 01:20:55.834
AND THEN I STARTED
TO TAKE ABOUT

01:20:55.934 --> 01:20:59.234
FIVE TO TEN MINUTES EVERY
DAY AFTER MY PRAYER

01:20:59.334 --> 01:21:01.467
AND FELLOWSHIP WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

01:21:01.567 --> 01:21:03.333
SO I WOULD TALK TO HIM.


01:21:03.433 --> 01:21:05.100
I WOULD ADDRESS
HIM AS A PERSON.

01:21:05.200 --> 01:21:08.167
I WOULD VISUALIZE HIM
BEING IN THE ROOM

01:21:08.267 --> 01:21:10.000
SITTING ON THE CHAIR.


01:21:10.100 --> 01:21:13.566
AND THAT JUST HELPED
ME TEMPORARILY

01:21:13.666 --> 01:21:15.867
TO SHIFT MY MIND FROM
HE'S A POWER, FEELING,

01:21:15.967 --> 01:21:17.300
ANOINTING, TINGLING,


01:21:17.400 --> 01:21:20.133
OIL, ALL OF THAT,
TO HE'S A PERSON.

01:21:20.233 --> 01:21:21.967
AND I STARTED TO SENSE,


01:21:22.067 --> 01:21:23.667
I WOULDN'T FEEL HIM,


01:21:23.767 --> 01:21:25.367
BECAUSE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY
FEEL THE PERSON,

01:21:25.467 --> 01:21:26.366
YOU KNOW THE PERSON.


01:21:26.466 --> 01:21:27.667
WE FEEL THE POWER.


01:21:27.767 --> 01:21:28.634
BUT WE KNOW THE PERSON.


01:21:28.767 --> 01:21:29.800
THAT'S WHY THE BIBLE SAYS
BE STILL AND KNOW

01:21:29.900 --> 01:21:30.934
THAT I'M GOD.


01:21:31.034 --> 01:21:33.600
SO WE DON'T
TECHNICALLY FEEL GOD,

01:21:33.700 --> 01:21:35.000
WE FEEL HIS POWER.


01:21:35.100 --> 01:21:36.667
BUT WE KNOW HIM
AS A PERSON.

01:21:36.767 --> 01:21:38.567
I STARTED TO GET
TO KNOW HIM MORE.

01:21:38.667 --> 01:21:40.567
HE BECAME VERY REAL TO ME.


01:21:40.667 --> 01:21:43.000
AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT,


01:21:43.100 --> 01:21:47.400
WE DECIDED REALLY GIVE ALL
OUR SAVINGS EVERY MONTH

01:21:47.500 --> 01:21:49.167
FOR THREE YEARS
IN A ROW ACTUALLY.

01:21:49.267 --> 01:21:50.967
SO WE DID THAT FOR
ABOUT THREE YEARS.

01:21:51.067 --> 01:21:54.033
AND WE STARTED TO
GIVE OUR CARS AWAY.

01:21:54.133 --> 01:21:55.534
BECAUSE I STARTED
SEEING THE MOVEMENT

01:21:55.634 --> 01:21:56.633
IN THE YOUTH GROUP.


01:21:56.733 --> 01:21:58.367
PEOPLE START
GETTING SAVED.

01:21:58.467 --> 01:21:59.466
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED,


01:21:59.566 --> 01:22:01.534
I WAS WILLING TO GIVE
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING

01:22:01.634 --> 01:22:02.534
JUST TO SEE PEOPLE -


01:22:02.634 --> 01:22:04.433
I JUST WANTED TO
SEE PEOPLE SAVED.

01:22:04.533 --> 01:22:08.334
SO WHEN THAT HAPPENED,
INTERESTINGLY,

01:22:08.434 --> 01:22:11.400
IS THAT WITHIN THAT YEAR,


01:22:11.500 --> 01:22:14.433
MY FATHER FINDS LAND
CLOSE TO CHURCH.

01:22:14.533 --> 01:22:16.000
NOW, I DON'T
HAVE ANY MONEY.

01:22:16.100 --> 01:22:17.433
AND NOT ONLY, I DON'T
HAVE ANY MONEY,

01:22:17.533 --> 01:22:19.800
I JUST MADE A PROMISE
TO GIVE ALL MY SAVINGS

01:22:19.900 --> 01:22:23.000
FOR THE REST OF THE
YEAR ON TOP OF THAT.

01:22:23.100 --> 01:22:26.300
SO MY DAD SAYS, I WANT
YOU TO BUY THIS LAND

01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:27.133
AND BUILD A HOUSE.


01:22:27.233 --> 01:22:28.100
YOU WERE TRYING
TO BUILD A HOUSE.

01:22:28.200 --> 01:22:29.900
I SAID, DAD, I'M BROKE


01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.466
AND I'M GONNA BE BROKE
FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

01:22:32.566 --> 01:22:35.500
AND MY DAD BORROWS
ME THE MONEY.

01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:39.000
THE HOUSE GETS BUILT BY
THE END OF THAT YEAR.

01:22:39.100 --> 01:22:40.700
THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY IN
THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN

01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:42.267
TO PAY MY DAD BACK.


01:22:42.367 --> 01:22:43.934
SO PRETTY MUCH BY THE
END OF THAT YEAR,

01:22:44.034 --> 01:22:46.267
WITHIN 12 MONTHS, I
WAS IN THE NEW HOME

01:22:46.367 --> 01:22:47.900
AND I HAD A NEW MINISTRY.


01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:49.000
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.


01:22:49.100 --> 01:22:50.000
VLADIMIR: AND
WHEN THAT HAPPENED,

01:22:50.100 --> 01:22:51.200
THAT'S WHEN WE GAVE
TWO MORE CARS AWAY,

01:22:51.300 --> 01:22:53.766
AND END UP WALKING
TO WORK FOR A WHILE.

01:22:53.866 --> 01:22:55.233
BECAUSE WHEN
THAT HAPPENED,

01:22:55.333 --> 01:22:57.367
NOW I WASN'T LED,


01:22:57.467 --> 01:22:59.466
I'M LIKE, IF GOD
IS THAT GOOD,

01:22:59.566 --> 01:23:00.967
I'M GONNA THROW
EVERYTHING.

01:23:01.067 --> 01:23:02.467
I WAS LIKE, I DON'T
NEED TO HAVE A CAR.

01:23:02.567 --> 01:23:03.767
I CAN JUST BLESS SOMEBODY.


01:23:03.867 --> 01:23:04.833
I SAW SOMEBODY
IN THE CHURCH.

01:23:04.933 --> 01:23:05.933
BOTH OF US FELT
GOOD ABOUT IT.

01:23:06.033 --> 01:23:07.267
GAVE THE CAR AWAY.


01:23:07.367 --> 01:23:09.233
AND THE LORD REALLY
STARTED TO STRETCH US

01:23:09.333 --> 01:23:11.100
IN THE AREA OF GIVING.


01:23:11.200 --> 01:23:12.567
AND REALLY STRETCH
US IN THAT AREA

01:23:12.667 --> 01:23:13.733
BECAUSE I REALLY
FELT THAT

01:23:13.833 --> 01:23:15.033
IT WAS DEEPLY
CONNECTED TO MY HEART,

01:23:15.133 --> 01:23:16.533
BECAUSE MONEY IS
CONNECTED TO THE HEART.

01:23:16.633 --> 01:23:18.300
AND SO WHEN WE BEGIN
TO LAY IT DOWN,

01:23:18.400 --> 01:23:20.267
WE BEGIN TO SENSE
THE LORD MOVING,

01:23:20.367 --> 01:23:21.400
ENRICHING US SPIRITUALLY,


01:23:21.500 --> 01:23:22.766
AND I STARTED TO SEE
THAT BREAKTHROUGH

01:23:22.866 --> 01:23:23.733
AND THAT REVIVAL,


01:23:23.833 --> 01:23:27.134
I LONGED FOR THAT
SINCE 16 YEARS OF AGE.

01:23:27.234 --> 01:23:28.367
AND I'M WILLING
TO GIVE, YOU KNOW,

01:23:28.467 --> 01:23:29.700
MY LIFE TO SEE THAT.


01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:31.367
AND SO FINALLY I'M
ABLE TO SEE THAT.

01:23:31.467 --> 01:23:33.566
AND THAT JUST GAVE
ME SO MUCH JOY.

01:23:33.666 --> 01:23:36.600
AND THEN THE MIRACLES
STARTED TO BREAK OUT.

01:23:36.700 --> 01:23:38.166
FIRST IN THE YOUTH GROUP.


01:23:38.266 --> 01:23:40.233
WHEN KIDS STARTED
GETTING HEALED,

01:23:40.333 --> 01:23:41.234
THEN DELIVERANCES.


01:23:41.334 --> 01:23:45.167
LIKE THIS GUY ALEX COMES
TO THE YOUTH GROUP

01:23:45.267 --> 01:23:46.933
AND STARTS MANIFESTING
DEMONS LIKE

01:23:47.033 --> 01:23:48.000
IN THE YOUTH SERVICE.


01:23:48.100 --> 01:23:51.834
LIKE A FULL-BLOWN,
HA, I AM HITLER!

01:23:51.934 --> 01:23:53.667
AND WE DON'T HIDE
HIM IN THE ROOM.

01:23:53.767 --> 01:23:54.533
I MEAN, IT'S A
YOUTH SERVICE.

01:23:54.633 --> 01:23:55.500
KIDS ARE -


01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:56.866
LIKE THE WILD STUFF.


01:23:56.966 --> 01:23:58.867
AND WE INTERROGATE
THE DEMON

01:23:58.967 --> 01:24:01.433
AND THE DEMONS
SAID I ENTERED HIM.

01:24:01.533 --> 01:24:02.433
THE KID GETS DELIVERED.


01:24:02.533 --> 01:24:04.266
FINDS OUT HIS
BROTHER DIES

01:24:04.366 --> 01:24:05.133
AND WHEN HIS
BROTHER DIED,

01:24:05.233 --> 01:24:06.233
HE WENT TO A CEMETERY


01:24:06.333 --> 01:24:07.633
AND STARTED TO DIG DIRT.


01:24:07.733 --> 01:24:10.433
AND HE FELT SOMETHING
ENTER HIM IN THE CEMETERY.

01:24:10.533 --> 01:24:13.067
AND AFTER THAT, HE
SAID HE BLACKS OUT.

01:24:13.167 --> 01:24:17.033
AND SOMETHING HAPPENS TO
HIS BODY HE'S NOT AWARE OF.

01:24:17.133 --> 01:24:18.267
SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE,
HE TAKES A HAMMER

01:24:18.367 --> 01:24:19.600
AND THROWS IT AT A PERSON.


01:24:19.700 --> 01:24:20.766
AND HE COMES
BACK TO HIMSELF,

01:24:20.866 --> 01:24:22.266
HE'S LIKE, WHAT
JUST HAPPENED?

01:24:22.366 --> 01:24:24.233
SO THEY KICKED
HIM OUT OF SCHOOL.

01:24:24.333 --> 01:24:25.500
THEY PUT HIM IN JAIL.


01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:26.866
LIKE THIS GUY WAS
A BIG TROUBLEMAKER.

01:24:26.966 --> 01:24:28.067
LOOKED GOOD ON
THE OUTSIDE.

01:24:28.167 --> 01:24:29.900
BUT HE JUST SNAPS
FOR NO REASON.

01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:31.167
WHEN THE DEMON
WAS CAST OUT,

01:24:31.267 --> 01:24:32.534
THAT NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN.


01:24:32.634 --> 01:24:33.667
HE GOT MARRIED.


01:24:33.767 --> 01:24:35.367
COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT PERSON.

01:24:35.467 --> 01:24:37.833
SO THESE THINGS STARTED TO
HAPPEN IN THE YOUTH GROUP.

01:24:37.933 --> 01:24:39.166
KIDS GETTING DELIVERED.


01:24:39.266 --> 01:24:40.666
KIDS COMING
GETTING WORSHIP.

01:24:40.766 --> 01:24:42.133
I REMEMBER ONE KID
COMING FOR ABOUT

01:24:42.233 --> 01:24:43.434
TWO, THREE WEEKS,


01:24:43.534 --> 01:24:45.367
STANDS DURING
WORSHIP, BAM, FALLS.

01:24:45.467 --> 01:24:46.533
WORSHIP ENDS.


01:24:46.633 --> 01:24:47.567
AND THE DEMON
STARTS MANIFESTING

01:24:47.667 --> 01:24:48.733
DURING ANNOUNCEMENTS.


01:24:48.833 --> 01:24:50.333
SO WE STOPPED THE
ANNOUNCEMENTS.

01:24:50.433 --> 01:24:51.533
WE DO THE DELIVERANCE


01:24:51.633 --> 01:24:52.966
AND THEN HIS
FAMILY COMES,

01:24:53.066 --> 01:24:53.767
WHAT DID YOU
GUYS DO TO HIM?

01:24:53.867 --> 01:24:55.700
WE'RE LIKE, WHY?


01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:58.233
THEY'RE LIKE, HE'S
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOW.

01:24:58.333 --> 01:24:59.767
SO THESE
SUPERNATURAL THINGS,

01:24:59.867 --> 01:25:00.934
IT'S ALMOST LIKE MIRACLES.


01:25:01.034 --> 01:25:03.667
I WAS CHASING THEM AND NOW
THEY STARTED TO FOLLOW US.

01:25:03.767 --> 01:25:04.967
THEY STARTED TO FOLLOW ME.


01:25:05.067 --> 01:25:06.667
THEY STARTED TO
FOLLOW THE MINISTRY.

01:25:06.767 --> 01:25:08.266
AND GOD REALLY
STARTED TO ESTABLISH

01:25:08.366 --> 01:25:09.633
THE LIVES OF
YOUNG PEOPLE,

01:25:09.733 --> 01:25:11.300
NOT ONLY ON THE
PREACHING OF THE WORD,

01:25:11.400 --> 01:25:13.433
BUT ON THE DEMONSTRATION
OF HIS POWER.

01:25:13.533 --> 01:25:16.767
AND THEN THE YOUTH GROUP
OUTGREW THE CHURCH.

01:25:16.867 --> 01:25:20.466
IT ACTUALLY QUADRUPLED
THE SIZE OF THE CHURCH.

01:25:20.566 --> 01:25:22.600
AND MY PASTOR ASKED ME TO
STEP AWAY FROM THE YOUTH

01:25:22.700 --> 01:25:24.467
AND TO FOCUS ON THE -


01:25:24.567 --> 01:25:26.133
ON LEADING THE CHURCH.


01:25:26.233 --> 01:25:28.266
SO THE LAST SEVEN YEARS,
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING.

01:25:28.366 --> 01:25:30.200
SO AS I CONTINUE TO GROW
IN RELATIONSHIP

01:25:30.300 --> 01:25:31.100
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT,


01:25:31.200 --> 01:25:31.867
I WOULD SHARE WITH
DIFFERENT LEADERS

01:25:31.967 --> 01:25:33.267
AND DIFFERENT PASTORS,


01:25:33.367 --> 01:25:34.667
AND THEY WOULD ASK ME


01:25:34.767 --> 01:25:35.800
WHEN I WOULD PREACH
ON THE HOLY SPIRIT,

01:25:35.900 --> 01:25:37.567
SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE
THESE ENCOUNTERS

01:25:37.667 --> 01:25:38.700
AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT

01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:40.267
WILL GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL.


01:25:40.367 --> 01:25:41.467
I WROTE THIS BOOK
TWO YEARS AGO.

01:25:41.567 --> 01:25:42.567
I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE
IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME

01:25:42.667 --> 01:25:43.833
TO RELEASE IT, THOUGH.


01:25:43.933 --> 01:25:46.400
AND I REALLY FELT THAT
THIS WOULD BE A TIME NOW

01:25:46.500 --> 01:25:48.900
TO WHAT THAT
PODCAST DID TO ME,

01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:50.700
TO DO THAT TO
SOMEBODY ELSE,

01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:52.467
TO HELP SOMEBODY
ELSE DISCOVER THAT,

01:25:52.567 --> 01:25:54.767
TO BEGIN TO WALK
IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

01:25:54.867 --> 01:25:56.766
BUT I WOULD SAY
THE FIRST THING

01:25:56.866 --> 01:25:58.834
THAT REALLY STARTED TO
CHANGE PERSONALLY

01:25:58.934 --> 01:26:00.634
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT


01:26:00.734 --> 01:26:03.366
WAS THAT I BECAME
A BETTER PERSON.

01:26:03.466 --> 01:26:07.900
HOLY SPIRIT DIDN'T MAKE
ME BETTER THAN SOMEONE.

01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.667
HOLY SPIRIT MADE
ME BETTER THAN ME.

01:26:10.767 --> 01:26:12.134
THAT'S WHY THE
CHRISTIAN CHARACTER

01:26:12.234 --> 01:26:15.034
IS CALLED THE FRUIT
OF THE SPIRIT.

01:26:15.134 --> 01:26:17.434
IT'S NOT CALLED THE
FRUIT OF DISCIPLINE.

01:26:17.534 --> 01:26:21.734
TRYING HARDER,
RITUALS OR ROUTINES.

01:26:21.834 --> 01:26:23.567
I'M GONNA REALLY
WORK ON MY MOUTH.

01:26:23.667 --> 01:26:25.200
I'M GONNA REALLY
WORK ON MY ATTITUDE.

01:26:25.300 --> 01:26:26.666
MAN, I'M JUST NOT KIND.


01:26:26.766 --> 01:26:27.933
I'M GONNA WORK
ON MY KINDNESS.

01:26:28.033 --> 01:26:29.334
I'M GONNA SIGN UP
FOR THIS PROGRAM.

01:26:29.434 --> 01:26:30.367
I'M NOT AGAINST PROGRAMS.


01:26:30.467 --> 01:26:31.767
I'M NOT AGAINST
THOSE THINGS.

01:26:31.867 --> 01:26:33.767
BUT THE BIBLE SAYS IT'S
THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT.

01:26:33.867 --> 01:26:36.100
THAT MEANS HE HAS
TO WORK ON IT,

01:26:36.200 --> 01:26:38.500
WHICH MEANS THE
WORK I'M LEFT WITH

01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:40.167
IS TO ABIDE IN HIM.


01:26:40.267 --> 01:26:41.833
AND AS I ABIDE IN HIM,


01:26:41.933 --> 01:26:44.733
MY CHARACTER
STARTED TO CHANGE.

01:26:44.833 --> 01:26:46.100
WHAT IS THE CHRISTIAN
CHARACTER?

01:26:46.200 --> 01:26:47.166
IT'S THE FRUIT.


01:26:47.266 --> 01:26:48.500
WHAT HAPPENS
WITH THE FRUIT?

01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.233
THE FRUIT IS NOT
EATEN BY THE TREE.

01:26:51.333 --> 01:26:54.366
IT'S EATEN BY EVERYONE
ELSE EXCEPT THE TREE.

01:26:54.466 --> 01:26:58.200
MY WIFE BECAME
THE BENEFICIARY

01:26:58.300 --> 01:26:59.633
OF THE WORK OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

01:26:59.733 --> 01:27:02.434
BECAUSE NOW SHE'S
FED BY MY CHARACTER;

01:27:02.534 --> 01:27:06.134
NOT FED UP BECAUSE
I LACK CHARACTER.

01:27:06.234 --> 01:27:07.967
BECAUSE WE CAN
HAVE THE POWER

01:27:08.067 --> 01:27:09.667
THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.


01:27:09.767 --> 01:27:11.966
BUT IF WE DON'T
HAVE THE INTIMACY,

01:27:12.066 --> 01:27:14.267
WE LACK THE FRUIT.


01:27:14.367 --> 01:27:17.200
YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN
APPLE, APPLE WATCH.

01:27:17.300 --> 01:27:19.567
I CAN'T EAT THIS.


01:27:19.667 --> 01:27:21.566
BUT I CAN EAT
AN APPLE FRUIT.

01:27:21.666 --> 01:27:22.500
I WEAR THIS.


01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:24.766
THIS IS A TOOL.


01:27:24.866 --> 01:27:29.000
THE FRUIT FEEDS
THOSE NEAR IT.

01:27:29.100 --> 01:27:32.200
AND FOR ME, THE
GREATEST JOY I FOUND

01:27:32.300 --> 01:27:34.100
IN MY LIFE IN INTIMACY
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT

01:27:34.200 --> 01:27:36.234
IS THAT HE MADE
ME KINDER,

01:27:36.334 --> 01:27:38.867
HE MADE ME GENEROUS
WITH MY WIFE.

01:27:38.967 --> 01:27:40.167
HE MADE ME A PERSON THAT,


01:27:40.267 --> 01:27:42.533
THE PERSON THAT
MY WIFE MARRIED,

01:27:42.633 --> 01:27:44.566
AND THE PERSON
I AM TODAY -

01:27:44.666 --> 01:27:47.234
ACCORDING TO HER, I'M NOT
BLOWING MY OWN TRUMPET -

01:27:47.334 --> 01:27:49.934
SHE SAID THESE ARE
TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

01:27:50.034 --> 01:27:51.833
AND I BELIEVE THAT
IS NOT THE WORK

01:27:51.933 --> 01:27:53.133
BECAUSE I TRIED HARDER.


01:27:53.233 --> 01:27:55.000
BECAUSE THE FIRST TWO
YEARS, I TRIED HARDER.

01:27:55.100 --> 01:27:56.633
IT JUST GOT WORSE.


01:27:56.733 --> 01:27:57.867
AND SO I ALWAYS
TELL PEOPLE

01:27:57.967 --> 01:28:01.100
THAT SOMETIMES YOU JUST
NEED TO STOP TRYING COMPLETELY.

01:28:01.200 --> 01:28:03.467
AND JUST PUT ALL OF THAT
EFFORT IN RELATIONSHIP

01:28:03.567 --> 01:28:04.433
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT


01:28:04.533 --> 01:28:06.033
AND LET HIM LEAD YOU,


01:28:06.133 --> 01:28:07.767
AND YOU'LL BE SURPRISED
WHEN HE WILL PRODUCE

01:28:07.867 --> 01:28:10.033
A CHARACTER OUT OF YOU


01:28:10.133 --> 01:28:11.600
YOU'LL NEVER
TAKE CREDIT FOR.

01:28:11.700 --> 01:28:15.400
THAT'S WHY IT WILL BE
CALLED FRUIT OF HIM,

01:28:15.500 --> 01:28:16.333
NOT YOURS.


01:28:16.433 --> 01:28:17.367
AND PEOPLE WILL
LOOK AT YOU,

01:28:17.467 --> 01:28:19.034
NOT THE MINISTRY PART,


01:28:19.134 --> 01:28:20.800
BUT CHILDREN AT
HOME, SPOUSE,

01:28:20.900 --> 01:28:21.833
EMPLOYEES AND
OTHER PEOPLE,

01:28:21.933 --> 01:28:23.734
SAY, MAN, THIS
PERSON IS KIND.

01:28:23.834 --> 01:28:25.667
THIS PERSON UNDER
PRESSURE DOESN'T CRACK.

01:28:25.767 --> 01:28:27.167
HE HAS SELF-CONTROL,
HE HAS KINDNESS,

01:28:27.267 --> 01:28:28.200
HE HAS MEEKNESS.


01:28:28.300 --> 01:28:29.567
HE DOESN'T SNAP.


01:28:29.667 --> 01:28:30.633
WHY?


01:28:30.733 --> 01:28:32.733
NOT BECAUSE
THEY'RE AMAZING.

01:28:32.833 --> 01:28:34.900
IT'S BECAUSE THE SPIRIT
PRODUCED THE FRUIT.

01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:36.634
SO THAT'S WHAT INTIMACY
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT

01:28:36.734 --> 01:28:38.167
PRODUCED WITHIN ME.


01:28:38.267 --> 01:28:40.634
AND I LEAN ON
THE HOLY SPIRIT

01:28:40.734 --> 01:28:42.900
TO BE A PERSON THAT
MY WIFE NEEDS,

01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:43.667
MY CHURCH NEEDS,


01:28:43.767 --> 01:28:44.766
MY STAFF NEEDS,


01:28:44.866 --> 01:28:46.167
AND MY TEAM NEEDS.


01:28:46.267 --> 01:28:47.433
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

01:28:47.533 --> 01:28:49.100
WELL, WE COULD
KEEP GOING,

01:28:49.200 --> 01:28:50.800
BUT WE'VE GOT
TO LET YOU GO.

01:28:50.900 --> 01:28:52.400
BUT I WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU SO MUCH

01:28:52.500 --> 01:28:53.800
FOR JUST IMPARTING
THIS WISDOM

01:28:53.900 --> 01:28:55.767
THE LORD HAS GIVEN YOU,


01:28:55.867 --> 01:28:57.534
JUST TO KEEP GOING.


01:28:57.634 --> 01:29:00.467
AND, GUYS, LIKE HE
SAID, HIS BOOK IS OUT.

01:29:00.567 --> 01:29:01.800
YOU CAN EVEN GET IT FREE.


01:29:01.900 --> 01:29:02.700
VLADIMIR: THAT'S RIGHT.


01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:03.533
REBECCA: I MEAN THAT'S -


01:29:03.633 --> 01:29:05.934
I MEAN THAT'S
GENEROUS AS WELL.

01:29:06.034 --> 01:29:08.800
LIKE YOU SAID, YOU
CAN GET IT ON AMAZON,

01:29:08.900 --> 01:29:10.266
WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.


01:29:10.366 --> 01:29:11.800
FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
GET CONNECTED TO YOU,

01:29:11.900 --> 01:29:13.033
CONNECTED TO THE CHURCH,


01:29:13.133 --> 01:29:14.200
HOW CAN THEY FIND YOU?


01:29:14.300 --> 01:29:16.700
VLADIMIR: SO OUR CHURCH
NAME IS HUNGRY GENERATION.

01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:19.166
THE WEBSITE IS
HUNGRYGEN.COM.

01:29:19.266 --> 01:29:21.700
BUT PRETTY MUCH ON ALL THE
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS,

01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:23.500
IT'S JUST HUNGRYGEN.


01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:25.100
AND THEY CAN FIND THAT
WE HAVE OUR SERVICES,

01:29:25.200 --> 01:29:27.200
AS OF RIGHT NOW
IT'S 9 AND 11:30.

01:29:27.300 --> 01:29:28.600
IN JUST A LITTLE
BIT FROM NOW

01:29:28.700 --> 01:29:30.400
WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING
A THIRD SERVICE.

01:29:30.500 --> 01:29:34.033
AND THEN MY MINISTRY
IS PASTORVLAD.ORG.

01:29:34.133 --> 01:29:36.633
BUT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA
IT'S VLAD, HUNGRYGEN,

01:29:36.733 --> 01:29:38.366
OR JUST TYPE PASTOR VLAD


01:29:38.466 --> 01:29:40.167
AND USUALLY A FEW
ACCOUNTS WILL SHOW UP.

01:29:40.267 --> 01:29:42.400
PROBABLY THE ONE THAT HAS THE
MOST FOLLOWING IS MINE.

01:29:42.500 --> 01:29:43.500
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:45.434
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

01:29:45.534 --> 01:29:46.333
VLADIMIR: THANK YOU.


01:29:46.433 --> 01:29:47.733
REBECCA: AND
COME BACK, OKAY?

01:29:47.833 --> 01:29:49.367
VLADIMIR: MY PLEASURE
BEING HERE AND THANK YOU

01:29:49.467 --> 01:29:50.800
SO MUCH FOR REACHING OUT.


01:29:50.900 --> 01:29:52.900
AND YOU ACTUALLY
MADE THAT POSSIBLE

01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:54.866
FOR ME TO BE HERE.


01:29:54.966 --> 01:29:57.267
IT WAS MY DREAM
TO BE ON DAYSTAR.

01:29:57.367 --> 01:29:58.167
REBECCA: REALLY?


01:29:58.267 --> 01:29:59.400
VLADIMIR: YES, IT WAS.


01:29:59.500 --> 01:30:02.133
AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW,
QUITE A FEW OF MY FRIENDS

01:30:02.233 --> 01:30:03.433
TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW,


01:30:03.533 --> 01:30:04.733
BECAUSE THEY PUBLISH
AND THEY'RE LIKE,

01:30:04.833 --> 01:30:05.900
HEY, WE HAVE THIS
OPPORTUNITY,

01:30:05.966 --> 01:30:07.200
AND THEY'RE ON
DAYSTAR AND STUFF,

01:30:07.300 --> 01:30:08.767
AND SO IT WAS MY DESIRE.


01:30:08.867 --> 01:30:09.967
AND SO WHEN YOU REACHED
OUT, I WAS LIKE, OKAY,

01:30:10.067 --> 01:30:11.400
THIS ACTUALLY
MIGHT HAPPEN.

01:30:11.500 --> 01:30:15.167
SO WHEN I WAS SITTING TODAY
WITH YOUR MOM AND YOUR DAD,

01:30:15.267 --> 01:30:17.267
I WAS LIKE, OH, MY
GOODNESS, THIS IS CRAZY.

01:30:17.367 --> 01:30:18.667
I'M NOT PUBLISHED
BY ANYBODY,

01:30:18.767 --> 01:30:20.034
I DON'T HAVE A PUBLICIST.


01:30:20.134 --> 01:30:21.567
NOBODY DID THIS.


01:30:21.667 --> 01:30:23.667
WHAT AM I DOING HERE?


01:30:23.767 --> 01:30:24.667
THIS IS INCREDIBLE.


01:30:24.767 --> 01:30:25.900
I'M VERY, VERY HONORED


01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:27.400
AND I AM GRATEFUL.


01:30:27.500 --> 01:30:28.167
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

01:30:28.267 --> 01:30:29.200
YOU KNOW WHAT?


01:30:29.300 --> 01:30:30.433
IT'S BECAUSE GOD OPENED
THAT DOOR FOR YOU.

01:30:30.533 --> 01:30:31.233
VLADIMIR: HE DID.


01:30:31.333 --> 01:30:32.200
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO AMAZING.

01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:33.400
WELL, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

01:30:33.500 --> 01:30:34.534
VLADIMIR: THANK YOU.


01:30:34.634 --> 01:30:35.966
REBECCA: AND THANK
YOU FOR LISTENING

01:30:36.066 --> 01:30:37.500
TO THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.