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REBECCA LAMB WEISS:
HEY, GUYS.

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WELCOME BACK TO
<i>THEREBECCA WEISS PODCAST</i> .

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I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY.


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WE ARE IN A NEW FORMAT BECAUSE I
AM JOINED HERE WITH MANY GUESTS.

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I AM WITH MY FAMILY TODAY.


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ALL: YAY!


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HELLO.


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REBECCA:
THE WEISS FAMILY.

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WELCOME TO THE SHOW, GUYS.


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KATHARINE WEISS: THANK YOU.


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IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.


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MYLES WEISS: I'M
SO GLAD TO BE HERE.

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REBECCA: WELL, FAMILY, I THINK
EVERYONE IS CRAVING FAMILY,

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AND PEOPLE
WANT TO SEE MORE OF FAMILY,

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AND WE NEED TO
BE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY

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BECAUSE WE'RE ALL DOING
LIFE WITH OUR FAMILY.

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AND SO I THINK YOU GUYS CAN
SHARE SOME MUCH-NEEDED WISDOM.

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AND YOU GUYS ARE LIKE
MENTORS TO ME AND JONATHAN.

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BEFORE I JUMP INTO
THE CONVERSATION,

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I DO NEED TO INTRODUCE
WHO ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE.

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JONATHAN WEISS: WHO IS SITTING
NEXT TO YOU ON THE COUCH.

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REBECCA: SO NEXT
TO ME ON THE COUCH,

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I HAVE MY VERY
HANDSOME HUSBAND.

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JONATHAN: HELLO,
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

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REBECCA: AND GREAT HUSBAND,
GREAT FATHER, GREAT LEADER.

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ALSO WORKS WITH DAYSTAR.


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AND I'M TALKING ABOUT
JONATHAN WEISS.

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KATHARINE: AMEN.


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JONATHAN:
GOOD TO BE HERE.

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REBECCA: AND THEN I HAVE MY
FATHER AND MOTHER-IN-LOVE,

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BECAUSE IT'S NOT
BY LAW, IT'S LOVE.

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KATHARINE: YES.


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REBECCA: I HAVE
MYLES WEISS.

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MYLES: GLAD TO BE HERE.


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REBECCA: AND TELL A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.

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MYLES: OH, MY GOSH.


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YOU SHOULD INTRODUCE HER
BECAUSE MINE'S A LONG STORY.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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MYLES: A LOT
OF YEARS IN IT.

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SO KATHARINE AND I HAVE BEEN
WITH THE LORD WITH EACH OTHER,

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MARRIED FOR 37 YEARS.


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REBECCA: WHICH IS AN
ACCOMPLISHMENT IN AND OF ITSELF.

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MYLES: THAT'S BECAUSE
SHE'S FULL OF MERCY AND GRACE.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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JONATHAN: EVERY YEAR
IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.

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REBECCA: IT REALLY IS.


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MYLES: AND WE HAVE A
PRETTY INTERESTING HISTORY

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OF COMING TO THE LORD
AND FINDING EACH OTHER.

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AND THEN I HAVE THIS HISTORY OF
THE JEWISH BACKGROUND

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OF OUR FAMILY
AND SEEING THE LEGACY

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THAT GOD
HAS BEEN RELEASING.

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AND SO AS WE GO FORWARD,
I'LL TALK ABOUT IT,

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BUT SAY SOMETHING
ABOUT YOURSELF, TOOTS.

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REBECCA: THIS IS
KATHARINE WEISS,

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YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE, MY
BEAUTIFUL MOTHER-IN-LOVE.

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KATHARINE: WELL, THANK YOU
FOR HAVING ME ON, REBECCA.

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IT'S SUCH A JOY TO BE
PART OF THIS PODCAST

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AND TO SHARE THIS NEW
CHAPTER FOR YOU TOO.

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IT'S A JOY FOR
US TO BE HERE.

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REBECCA: WELL, AND THE
REASON WHY I WANTED TO

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HAVE YOU GUYS ON IS BECAUSE
I ACTUALLY LOVE THIS FORMAT

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EVEN MORE THAN
ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWING,

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BUT WE HAD MYLES
AND JONATHAN ON,

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AND THE PEOPLE WERE
LIKE, GIVE US MORE,

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AND I WAS LIKE,
ALL RIGHT, YOU ASKED,

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YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHAT
YOU WANT, AUDIENCE.

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AND I HAD TO ADD
YOU INTO THE MIX --

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KATHARINE:
I APPRECIATE IT.

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REBECCA: -- BECAUSE YOU HAVE
SO MANY GREAT THINGS TO SHARE.

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BUT ONE OF THE VERY FIRST
THINGS I WANT TO DO IS

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I WANT TO CLEAR UP
THE QUESTIONS.

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BECAUSE MY MOTHER
JUST GOT REMARRIED,

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AND SHE MARRIED A MAN
WITH THE SAME LAST NAME.

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JONATHAN: WILD, BECAUSE
IT'S NOT A COMMON LAST NAME.

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KATHARINE: NO.


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REBECCA: NO.


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IT IS VERY WILD.


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SO JONATHAN, PLEASE
CLEAR THE AIR.

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IS DOUG WEISS YOUR FATHER?


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JONATHAN: HE'S
NOT MY FATHER.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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REBECCA: CAN YOU POINT
TO THE MAN WHO IS ACTUALLY --

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[ LAUGHING ]


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MYLES: I'M RELIEVED.


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JONATHAN: MY
DAD'S HERE, YEAH.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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REBECCA: THIS
IS YOUR FATHER.

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MYLES: YES, I
AM THE OG WEISS.

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REBECCA: YOU
ARE THE OG WEISS.

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SO, MYLES, TELL US SOME
OF YOUR FAMILY HISTORY

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OF WHO
THE WEISS FAMILY IS.

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YOUR WEISS FAMILY.


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JONATHAN: WHO ARE WE.


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MYLES: THIS
IS A LONG STORY,

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I'LL TRY TO BE AS
BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.

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BUT MY GRANDPARENTS CAME OVER
FROM EUROPE TO THE OLD COUNTRY

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I CALL,
WHICH IS NEW YORK CITY.

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JONATHAN: WAIT,
WHICH PART OF EUROPE?

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MYLES: I'M
GOING TO SAY.

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JONATHAN: OH, OKAY.


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[ LAUGHING ]


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JONATHAN:
SORRY, I'M SO EXCITED.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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MYLES: MY GRANDPARENTS
CAME OVER AT THE END

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OF THE 19TH CENTURY,
LATE 1800S.

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MY DAD AND MOM WERE BORN
IN NEW YORK CITY

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DURING THE
FIRST WORLD WAR.

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I WAS BORN AFTER
WORLD WAR II.

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THEY CAME FROM HUNGARY;
VIENNA, AUSTRIA;

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AND POLAND; AND RUSSIA.


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SO WE HAVE THIS ASHKENAZI
BACKGROUND OF A MIXED GROUP

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FROM WHAT WAS CALLED
RUSSIA-POLAND AT THE TIME

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BECAUSE WE WERE ALWAYS
BEING CHASED BY SOMEONE,

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AND SO THE BORDERS WERE ALWAYS
SHIFTING FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

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AND THEY -- MY PARENTS GREW
UP IN LOWER MANHATTAN.

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MY DAD WAS FROM A
VERY POOR FAMILY.

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HIS DAD SOLD VEGETABLES ON
A PUSHCART IN THE CITY.

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JONATHAN: WOW.


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MYLES: MOM'S FAMILY
WAS MORE SUCCESSFUL.

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MY GRANDFATHER ON THAT
SIDE, WHO DIED VERY YOUNG,

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HAD A LITTLE UMBRELLA
STORE IN MANHATTAN.

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AND THEN AFTER
WORLD WAR II,

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MY UNCLE AND MY DAD REALIZED IF
THERE WAS A SURPLUS OF ALUMINUM

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FROM WORLD WAR II


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AND THEY INVENTED THE ALUMINUM
UMBRELLA POLES FOR BACK YARD

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AND FOR BEACH
AND PATIO UMBRELLAS.

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THEY ALSO INVENTED WHAT
THEY CALLED THE CRANK AND TILT,

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WHICH IS WHERE YOU CRANK
THE THING AND IT TILTS OVER

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SO YOU CAN
FACE IT TO THE SUN.

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KATHARINE: IN THE '50S.


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MYLES: IN THE '50S,
AFTER WORLD WAR II.

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SO THEY HAD THE SECOND LARGEST
BEACH UMBRELLA FACTORY

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IN THE WORLD.


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SO I GREW UP, MACON, NAMED AFTER
THE GRANDFATHER, MAX COHEN,

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MACON.


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REBECCA: OH, NICE.


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BOTH: YEAH.


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JONATHAN: AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE
A PHOTO OF THE PATENT DRAWINGS,

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SO WE'LL SHOW THAT, TOO.


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REBECCA: YEAH.


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THAT'S IN YOUR
OFFICE, RIGHT?

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BOTH: IT IS.


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REBECCA: I
SAW IT LAST TIME.

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SO THAT'S ACTUALLY
A REALLY BIG DEAL.

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AND SO YOUR DAD WENT FROM
BEING RAISED POOR

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TO COMING INTO
A LOT OF MONEY.

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MYLES: YEAH.


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WELL, WHEN MY DAD MARRIED
MY MOM, MY UNCLE AL,

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AND MY DAD BUILT THIS THING
FROM A LITTLE STOREFRONT

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INTO
THIS BIG CONCERN.

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AND SO IT'S REALLY
AN AMERICAN STORY.

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JEWS COMING HERE
WITH NOTHING.

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AND AMERICA, BEING
THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY

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IF YOU'RE WILLING
TO WORK HARD,

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THEY REALLY BUILT SOMETHING
THAT WAS QUITE PROFITABLE.

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AND SO I GREW UP
MIDDLE CLASS.

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KATHARINE: I LOVE HOW YOUR
PARENTS OR YOUR GRANDPARENTS

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USED TO
WASH THE FRONT STOOP.

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MYLES: MY DAD'S PARENTS LIVED IN
A TENEMENT IN LOWER MANHATTAN,

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AND THEY WERE SO GRATEFUL
TO BE OUT OF EUROPE

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AND AWAY FROM
THE RUSSIAN POGROMS,

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AWAY FROM THE PERSECUTION
OF THE JEWS, MY GRANDMA,

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I'D COME, WE'D GO TO VISIT
THEM IN LOWER MANHATTAN

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FROM OUT IN THE 'BURBS.


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AND SHE WOULD BE WASHING THE
SIDEWALK AND WASHING THE STOOP.

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WE SAY THE STEPS IN FRONT OF THE
BUILDING BECAUSE OF GRATITUDE.

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THEY WERE SO CAREFUL TO
BE GRATEFUL TO AMERICA,

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THEY MADE SURE THAT THE
KIDS GREW UP SPEAKING ENGLISH,

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THEY MADE SURE --
THEY ALL SPOKE YIDDISH,

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BUT THEY MADE SURE
THAT WE SPOKE ENGLISH,

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THEY MADE SURE THAT
WE WERE EDUCATED,

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AND THEY JUST HAD THIS
SENSE OF GRATITUDE.

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IT'S A LOST ART IN
OUR COUNTRY TODAY.

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KATHARINE: BUT YOU ALSO
NEVER LOST YOUR JEWISH IDENTITY

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WHERE SOME JEWS
MAY FORGET ABOUT

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OR THEY DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER
BECAUSE OF THE HOLOCAUST, RIGHT?

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MYLES: YEAH.


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I GREW UP WITH PEOPLE WHO
HAD THE TATTOO ON THEIR ARMS,

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SURVIVORS
OF THE HOLOCAUST.

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AND SO IT WAS
VERY PRESENT.

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IT WAS VERY PRESENT, THE REALITY
OF WHAT HAD JUST HAPPENED.

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SO THERE WAS THIS AWAKENING OF
THE DREAM THAT AMERICA IS,

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AND I BELIEVE
IT STILL IS.

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REBECCA: SO EVEN
THOUGH YOUR PARENTS,

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THEY CAME OVER, THEY
IMMIGRATED BEFORE WORLD WAR II,

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THERE WERE FLEEING
PERSECUTION IN RUSSIA.

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MYLES: YES, YEAH.


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REBECCA: CAN YOU TALK ABOUT
WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE?

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MYLES: SURE.


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THE POGROMS.


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THE CHURCH IS ALWAYS INTERESTED
IN WHAT'S WRONG WITH THESE JEWS

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THAT THEY
CAN'T ACCEPT JESUS.

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WELL, THE CRUSADES,
THE INQUISITION,

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THE POGRAMS AND THE
HOLOCAUST HAVE SOURED US

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ON WHAT CHRISTIANS
MIGHT BE.

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THANK GOD WE'RE
LIVING IN THIS DAY

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WHERE EVERYTHING
IS COMING OUT.

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THE FACT IS THAT THE
GREATEST FRIENDS IN THE WORLD

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TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE
ARE THE CHRISTIANS,

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BIBLE-BELIEVING
CHRISTIANS.

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BUT A LITTLE BIT
OF A SHOUT-OUT.

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DAYSTAR HAS BEEN, IT'S GOING TO
MAKE ME CRY, DAYSTAR HAS BEEN...

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KATHARINE: A BEACON.


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MYLES: THANK YOU.


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KATHARINE:
YEAH, A BEACON.

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REBECCA: YOU TWO
ARE SO GOOD TOGETHER.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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REBECCA: I LOVE
HAVING Y'ALL TOGETHER.

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MYLES: YEAH, YEAH.


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REBECCA: SEE, Y'ALL
HAVE BEEN DOING MINISTRY,

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YOU'VE BEEN, HOW MANY YEARS
HAVE Y'ALL BEEN

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DOING MINISTRY TOGETHER?


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MYLES: MY WHOLE LIFE,
SO HELP ME GOD.

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KATHARINE: YES.


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[ LAUGHING ]


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MYLES: YOU'RE 34, SO A
LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT.

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KATHARINE: OUR FIRST DATE I HAD
TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT

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BECAUSE MYLES WAS JEWISH
OR IS JEWISH.

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AND SO ON OUR FIRST
DATE, I HAD TO LET HIM --

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REBECCA: DID YOU KNOW HE WAS
JEWISH ON YOUR FIRST DATE?

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KATHARINE: NO.


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AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT A BIG DEAL THAT WAS.

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I JUST KNEW I LIKED HIM.


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REBECCA: AND YOU WERE
LIKE ON FIRE FOR GOD.

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KATHARINE: I HAD
JUST RECEIVED THE LORD.

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AND SO ON OUR
FIRST DATE, I SAID,

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I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW
WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

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JESUS HAS BECOME VERY REAL
TO ME AND VERY PERSONAL.

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JONATHAN: NO, YOU
SAID, I LIKE YOU,

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BUT I'M IN LOVE
WITH ANOTHER.

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KATHARINE: AND THAT'S
THE SECOND LINE I SAID.

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SOMETHING JUST, YEAH.


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AND ANYWAY, I SAID, THIS
PATH THAT I'M ON,

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IF YOU WANT TO HAVE
ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME,

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I'M GOING
SOMEWHERE WITH GOD,

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AND JESUS IS THE ONE
THAT'S LEADING THIS JOURNEY.

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AND I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC,


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BUT I NEVER HAD A PERSONAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.

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SO AFTER I RECEIVED HIM, I HAD A
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

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SO ON OUR FIRST DATE,
I SAID,

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YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND
THIS MAN, JESUS.

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AND HE SAID, I CAN'T
DO THAT, I'M JEWISH.

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AND I SAID, WELL, I DIDN'T
UNDERSTAND THAT THE GAP

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OF WHY HE COULDN'T BECAUSE HE
WAS JEWISH BECAUSE OF THE PAIN

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OF THE PAST THAT THE CHRISTIANS
OR THE SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS

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HAD DONE
TO THE JEWS.

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HOWEVER, I DID SAY, IF YOU
LOOK IN YOUR OWN BOOK,

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GOD WILL REVEAL
HIMSELF TO YOU.

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AND I ALSO CHALLENGED
HIM TO SAY --

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REBECCA:
WORDS OF WISDOM.

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KATHARINE:
AW, THANK YOU.

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I ALSO SAID, IF YOU PRAY,
GOD WILL REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU.

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BECAUSE I HAD JUST BEEN -- HE
HAD JUST REVEALED HIMSELF TO ME,

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AND IT WAS
SO TANGIBLE THAT I KNEW

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THAT GOD IS ABLE
TO DO ANYTHING.

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YEAH.


00:09:04.566 --> 00:09:06.367
REBECCA: AND THEN THAT
SET YOU ON A JOURNEY,

00:09:06.467 --> 00:09:07.633
WHICH YOU HAD
BEEN SEARCHING,

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YOU HAD BEEN SEEKING FOR
MANY YEARS AT THIS POINT.

00:09:09.833 --> 00:09:10.833
HOW LONG HAD IT BEEN?


00:09:10.933 --> 00:09:13.233
MYLES: SO BETWEEN
OUR BAR MITZVAH AND MY SALVATION

00:09:13.333 --> 00:09:15.000
IS MY TWENTY-YEAR
FOR THE OLDER FOLKS

00:09:15.100 --> 00:09:16.333
WHO WILL
REMEMBER THE BEATLES,

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MY FRIENDS IN NEW YORK CALLED IT
MY MAGICAL MISERY TOUR.

00:09:19.599 --> 00:09:20.933
SO I WAS --


00:09:21.033 --> 00:09:22.567
KATHARINE: YOU HAVE TO
ALSO SHARE THAT YOUR DAD DIED

00:09:22.667 --> 00:09:23.466
WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG.


00:09:23.566 --> 00:09:24.800
MYLES: YEAH,
WHEN I WAS 19.

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KATHARINE: SO THAT'S
WHAT SET HIM UNDER.

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MYLES: IT WAS A HOLE
WHERE I DIDN'T GET TO DO THIS.

00:09:30.633 --> 00:09:32.066
KATHARINE: YEAH.


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REBECCA: AW.


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MYLES: SO WHEN THE
FATHER REVEALED HIMSELF

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THROUGH JESUS TO ME, IT
WAS LIKE, WOW, IT'S JUST,

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IT WAS THE FULFILLMENT
OF THE JEWISHNESS OF THE GOSPEL

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AND ALSO
TOTALLY SHOCKING.

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AND SO I -- KATHARINE
WAS VERY CHALLENGING.

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SHE SAID, IF YOU LOOK
IN YOUR OWN BOOK.

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AND I THOUGHT, OKAY.


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I DIDN'T KNOW
HOW TO DO THAT.

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SO I WENT BACK TO MY
OFFICE AT THE TIME

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AND I SAID TO THE CEILING, IF
SHE'S RIGHT AND YOU'RE REAL,

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YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO SHOW ME.

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I NEED GUIDANCE.


00:10:02.633 --> 00:10:05.900
THE NEXT DAY, A MAN CAME
UP TO ME IN A PARKING LOT

00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:07.766
AND WE CHITTY-CHATTED FOR
A SECOND ABOUT MUSIC.

00:10:07.866 --> 00:10:08.967
HE WAS A MUSICIAN.


00:10:09.067 --> 00:10:09.900
REBECCA: AND YOU
WERE A MUSICIAN.

00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:11.366
MYLES: I'M A...


00:10:11.466 --> 00:10:12.767
KATHARINE:
YES, YOU ARE.

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JONATHAN: YOU'RE
A MUSICIAN, DAD.

00:10:14.033 --> 00:10:15.200
REBECCA: HE'S HUMBLE,
BUT HE IS A MUSICIAN, FOLKS.

00:10:15.300 --> 00:10:16.000
MYLES: AH.


00:10:16.100 --> 00:10:17.000
KATHARINE: FOR SURE.


00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:19.233
MYLES: ANYWAY, HE
STOPPED IN MID-SENTENCE

00:10:19.333 --> 00:10:21.266
AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW THE
REAL REASON I CAME OVER HERE

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IS BECAUSE
THE LORD SAID,

00:10:23.067 --> 00:10:24.567
GO TALK TO THE GUY
WITH THE RED CAR.

00:10:24.667 --> 00:10:27.366
YOU'VE BEEN PRAYING
FOR GUIDANCE.

00:10:27.466 --> 00:10:31.333
HE QUOTED BACK TO ME WHAT
I HAD SAID ALONE THE DAY BEFORE.

00:10:31.433 --> 00:10:32.599
JONATHAN: AMAZING.


00:10:32.699 --> 00:10:34.633
MYLES: AND IT WAS JUST
LIKE ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS --

00:10:34.733 --> 00:10:35.666
KATHARINE: A
WORD OF KNOWLEDGE.

00:10:35.766 --> 00:10:36.800
MYLES: YEAH, A WORD
OF KNOWLEDGE, TOTALLY.

00:10:36.900 --> 00:10:38.533
YOU REALIZE YOUR LIFE HAS
LED TO A CERTAIN POINT,

00:10:38.633 --> 00:10:41.199
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON, BUT IT'S INTENSE.

00:10:41.299 --> 00:10:43.867
AND SO THAT STARTED A SERIES OF
SUPERNATURAL INTERACTIONS

00:10:43.967 --> 00:10:45.500
THAT LED ME --


00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:46.633
KATHARINE:
TO YOUR SURRENDER.

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MYLES: -- KICKING AND
SCREAMING TO MY SALVATION.

00:10:47.766 --> 00:10:49.533
[ LAUGHING ]


00:10:49.633 --> 00:10:53.100
REBECCA: BUT WHAT'S SO
COOL IS THAT YOU GOT SAVED

00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:56.733
AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE IN
THE CHURCH, PAUL CAIN

00:10:56.833 --> 00:10:59.533
GAVE SUCH
A TIMELY WORD.

00:10:59.633 --> 00:11:00.266
FOR THOSE PEOPLE
WHO DON'T KNOW,

00:11:00.366 --> 00:11:01.500
PAUL CAIN WAS A PROPHET.


00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.533
HE WENT ON TO BE WITH THE LORD
I THINK A YEAR OR SO AGO.

00:11:04.633 --> 00:11:05.467
BUT WHAT WAS THAT WORD?


00:11:05.567 --> 00:11:08.300
BECAUSE IT SO SPOKE
TO YOUR JOURNEY.

00:11:08.400 --> 00:11:09.600
KATHARINE: THAT'S TRUE.


00:11:09.700 --> 00:11:10.600
MYLES: I WAS ONLY LIKE
TWO MONTHS IN THE LORD.

00:11:10.700 --> 00:11:11.533
KATHARINE: THAT'S TRUE.


00:11:11.633 --> 00:11:12.233
REBECCA: OH, SO
IT WAS SUPER FRESH.

00:11:12.333 --> 00:11:13.266
MYLES: IT
WAS TOTALLY NEW.

00:11:13.366 --> 00:11:14.333
BECAUSE IT WAS PAUL,
WE HAD A SMALL CHURCH,

00:11:14.433 --> 00:11:17.033
BUT IT WAS PACKED WITH
EIGHT HUNDRED PEOPLE.

00:11:17.133 --> 00:11:20.100
AND HE SAID, IN THE MIDDLE
OF FEELING THE ANOINTING,

00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.900
WHICH HE DOES UNTIL HE
LANDS SOMEWHERE, HE SAID,

00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:24.433
THERE'S A YOUNG MAN
HERE NAMED MYLES.

00:11:24.533 --> 00:11:26.666
WHERE ARE YOU?


00:11:26.766 --> 00:11:28.000
KATHARINE: AND AT
THAT TIME, I WAS LIKE --

00:11:28.100 --> 00:11:28.833
JONATHAN: MOM, WERE
YOU THERE FOR THIS?

00:11:28.933 --> 00:11:29.699
KATHARINE: I WAS THERE.


00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:30.533
REBECCA: I SEE
WHERE GOD HIT HER.

00:11:30.633 --> 00:11:31.700
MYLES: AND SHE
WAS LIKE, PRAY.

00:11:31.800 --> 00:11:32.900
KATHARINE: I WAS LIKE,
GOD KNOWS YOUR NAME!

00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:34.333
THAT MEANS HE KNOWS
EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU!

00:11:34.433 --> 00:11:35.766
THAT MEANS HE
KNOWS EVERYTHING!

00:11:35.866 --> 00:11:36.833
AND SO I --


00:11:36.933 --> 00:11:37.699
JONATHAN: BECAUSE YOU
WERE A NEW BELIEVER,

00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:39.267
SO THIS WAS
ALL VERY FRESH.

00:11:39.367 --> 00:11:40.800
KATHARINE: IN ALL OF THE
SUPERNATURAL THAT WAS FLOWING.

00:11:40.900 --> 00:11:41.633
JONATHAN:
THAT'S SO COOL.

00:11:41.733 --> 00:11:42.700
HOW EXCITING.


00:11:42.800 --> 00:11:43.900
REBECCA: AND JUST
SHOWED HOW PERSONAL GOD IS.

00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:44.867
JONATHAN:
ALSO SCARY, YEAH.

00:11:44.967 --> 00:11:45.700
KATHARINE: IT WAS
THE FEAR OF THE LORD.

00:11:45.800 --> 00:11:46.500
MYLES: THAT'S
WHAT HE SAID.

00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:47.300
HE SAID TO ME,
DON'T BE SCARED.

00:11:47.400 --> 00:11:49.666
I THOUGHT, TOO LATE.


00:11:49.766 --> 00:11:52.266
DON'T BE SCARED, STEP OUT
INTO THE AISLE, COME FORWARD.

00:11:52.366 --> 00:11:54.800
HE LEANED OVER THE OLD WOODEN
PULPIT AND HE HELD MY HAND

00:11:54.900 --> 00:11:56.766
AND HE SAID, THAT
WORD ABOUT HEALING

00:11:56.866 --> 00:12:00.233
THAT I JUST GAVE TO BILL IS ALSO
FOR YOU BECAUSE GOD KNOWS

00:12:00.333 --> 00:12:03.966
WHERE YOU'VE BEEN AND HE KNOWS
YOU'RE NEVER FIT IN ANYWHERE

00:12:04.066 --> 00:12:04.966
BECAUSE YOU ONLY BELONG


00:12:05.066 --> 00:12:06.966
IN THE
BODY OF CHRIST.

00:12:07.066 --> 00:12:10.233
AND HE'S GOING TO USE
YOU TO TOUCH MANY LIVES.

00:12:10.333 --> 00:12:11.266
AND SO --


00:12:11.366 --> 00:12:12.267
REBECCA: WHICH HE HAS.


00:12:12.367 --> 00:12:14.933
MYLES: WELL, WE WENT
ON TO BIBLE COLLEGE

00:12:15.033 --> 00:12:16.033
AND I WENT ON TO
GRADUATE SCHOOL,

00:12:16.133 --> 00:12:17.867
BECAME A THERAPIST, AND I
THANK GOD I'VE BEEN ABLE

00:12:17.967 --> 00:12:20.133
I THINK HELP A FEW
PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY.

00:12:20.233 --> 00:12:21.433
JONATHAN: THOUSANDS
AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

00:12:21.533 --> 00:12:22.399
MYLES: BECAUSE OF THE --


00:12:22.499 --> 00:12:23.700
REBECCA: AND IN
A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

00:12:23.800 --> 00:12:24.600
BOTH: YES.


00:12:24.700 --> 00:12:26.166
MYLES: AND SO, YEAH,
SO WE'VE BEEN

00:12:26.266 --> 00:12:28.366
ON THAT SUPERNATURAL JOURNEY
THE WHOLE TIME.

00:12:28.466 --> 00:12:31.933
AND GLORY TO GOD.


00:12:32.033 --> 00:12:34.567
REBECCA: SEE, ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I LOVE ABOUT YOUR STORY

00:12:34.667 --> 00:12:36.266
AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE
IN YOUR LIFETIME

00:12:36.366 --> 00:12:39.466
IS WHAT YOUR FAMILY
WAS FACING BACK

00:12:39.566 --> 00:12:41.733
IN THE PERSECUTION IN EUROPE
WAS BACK THEN

00:12:41.833 --> 00:12:43.267
WHEN THEY WANTED
PEOPLE TO CONVERT,

00:12:43.367 --> 00:12:45.966
THEY WANTED TO LOSE THEIR
COMPLETE JEWISH IDENTITY.

00:12:46.066 --> 00:12:46.899
KATHARINE: THAT'S
EXACTLY RIGHT.

00:12:46.999 --> 00:12:47.800
REBECCA: BUT WHAT GOD
INSTILLED IN YOU

00:12:47.900 --> 00:12:48.900
AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE
IN YOUR FAMILY

00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:50.200
AND THEN
THROUGH YOUR MINISTRY

00:12:50.300 --> 00:12:51.899
IS YOU'VE HELPED
BELIEVERS UNDERSTAND

00:12:51.999 --> 00:12:56.066
THEIR IDENTITY IN YESHUA AND
THE JEWISHNESS OF JESUS.

00:12:56.166 --> 00:12:57.133
MYLES: EXACTLY RIGHT.


00:12:57.233 --> 00:13:00.633
AND IRONIC OR NOT, MY
HEBREW NAME IS MORDECAI.

00:13:00.733 --> 00:13:02.133
THAT'S MY ACTUAL
GIVEN NAME.

00:13:02.233 --> 00:13:04.933
AND SO OUR JOB HAS
BEEN TO RAISE ESTHER.

00:13:05.033 --> 00:13:07.066
ESTHER NEEDED TO KNOW
WHERE SHE CAME FROM

00:13:07.166 --> 00:13:10.499
AND KNOW WHO SHE WAS AND
CONNECT TO HER ORIGINAL PEOPLE,

00:13:10.599 --> 00:13:13.033
AND THEN STAND UP
FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD.

00:13:13.133 --> 00:13:14.933
SO THAT'S WHAT THE CHURCH
NEEDS TO DO NOW, RIGHT.

00:13:15.033 --> 00:13:16.733
SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE,
BY THE GRACE OF GOD,

00:13:16.833 --> 00:13:21.100
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A LITTLE
BIT OF THAT THAT JUST BRING,

00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:22.333
WHAT WE SAY IS,


00:13:22.433 --> 00:13:25.466
BRING YESHUA TO ISRAEL
AND BRING ISRAEL TO THE CHURCH.

00:13:25.566 --> 00:13:26.799
KATHARINE: I LOVE HOW
YOU ALSO SAY, THOUGH,

00:13:26.899 --> 00:13:28.500
YOU DIDN'T CONVERT
FROM JUDAISM,

00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:29.566
YOU CONVERTED FROM SIN.


00:13:29.666 --> 00:13:30.800
MYLES: YEAH.


00:13:30.900 --> 00:13:31.699
IT'S NOT A SIN TO BE A JEW
-- TURNS OUT IT'S NOT A SIN

00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:32.533
TO BE A JEW.


00:13:32.633 --> 00:13:33.133
KATHARINE: YEAH.


00:13:33.233 --> 00:13:34.299
[ LAUGHING ]


00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:35.433
MYLES: AND SO I DIDN'T
CONVERT INTO SOMETHING ELSE,

00:13:35.533 --> 00:13:36.733
I CONVERTED
FROM MY OLD LIFE.

00:13:36.833 --> 00:13:37.833
KATHARINE: IT WAS A
PROCESS, THOUGH, REBECCA,

00:13:37.933 --> 00:13:40.466
TO FIND THAT BALANCE,
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO

00:13:40.566 --> 00:13:44.866
PUT ON OUR CHILDREN THE
LAWS OR THE THINGS --

00:13:44.966 --> 00:13:46.600
JONATHAN: WELL, IT
WASN'T EVEN UNTIL LATER IN LIFE

00:13:46.700 --> 00:13:50.033
UNTIL I WAS PROBABLY
LIKE 13 OR 12

00:13:50.133 --> 00:13:53.533
WHEN I STARTED TO REALIZE
THAT I WAS JEWISH.

00:13:53.633 --> 00:13:54.900
KATHARINE: RIGHT.


00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:57.266
YOU WERE RAISED IN THE CHURCH
AND YOU WERE RAISED IN REVIVAL.

00:13:57.366 --> 00:13:58.966
JONATHAN: AN INTENSE
REVIVAL OF THE CHURCH,

00:13:59.066 --> 00:14:01.400
SPIRIT-FILLED,
CRUSADE PRAYER.

00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:02.800
IS CRUSADE PRAYER WHAT
THEY STILL CALL IT

00:14:02.900 --> 00:14:04.800
OR IS THAT JUST OLD SCHOOL
WHAT THEY USED TO CALL IT?

00:14:04.900 --> 00:14:06.233
KATHARINE:
INTENSE PRAYER.

00:14:06.333 --> 00:14:07.967
MYLES: YOU SAY IT'S A
CAMPAIGN BACK IN THE DAY.

00:14:08.067 --> 00:14:09.033
JONATHAN: OH, OKAY.


00:14:09.133 --> 00:14:11.266
I JUST REMEMBER CRUSADE,
5:00 A.M., WE'RE THERE

00:14:11.366 --> 00:14:12.167
IN OUR SLEEPING BAGS.


00:14:12.267 --> 00:14:13.033
KATHARINE:
IT WAS WONDERFUL.

00:14:13.133 --> 00:14:15.133
JONATHAN: YEAH,
IT WAS UNTIL --

00:14:15.233 --> 00:14:21.967
YOU GREW UP IN A VERY
RICH, ACTIVE, VERY CLOSE CHURCH.

00:14:22.067 --> 00:14:23.300
YOU GUYS WERE
LIKE A REAL --

00:14:23.400 --> 00:14:24.366
JONATHAN: IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN
WHEN I WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD,

00:14:24.466 --> 00:14:25.833
ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I DID
HAVE A BAR MITZVAH,

00:14:25.933 --> 00:14:26.900
AND IT WAS
AT THAT CHURCH.

00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.233
KATHARINE:
THAT'S RIGHT.

00:14:28.333 --> 00:14:29.433
JONATHAN: SO IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN
WHEN I WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD

00:14:29.533 --> 00:14:30.833
THAT WE
STARTED TO INCORPORATE

00:14:30.933 --> 00:14:35.700
MORE OF THE JEWISH HERITAGE
AND TRADITIONS INTO OUR HOME.

00:14:35.800 --> 00:14:36.933
KATHARINE:
THAT'S RIGHT.

00:14:37.033 --> 00:14:37.533
REBECCA: WHICH YOU CAN
TELL THE STORY OF WHAT GOT THAT

00:14:37.633 --> 00:14:38.233
TO ALL HAPPEN.


00:14:38.333 --> 00:14:39.133
MYLES: YEAH.


00:14:39.233 --> 00:14:42.233
WE HELPED PLANT A
CHURCH IN SIBERIA.

00:14:42.333 --> 00:14:43.533
AND SO WHEN WE WERE
IN THE NATIONS,

00:14:43.633 --> 00:14:46.066
WE WERE IN INDIA AND
AFRICA AND SIBERIA AND RUSSIA,

00:14:46.166 --> 00:14:48.999
AND WE WENT AND THEY ASKED US
TO GO AND DO MARRIAGE SEMINARS

00:14:49.099 --> 00:14:50.066
THERE.


00:14:50.166 --> 00:14:51.933
SO WE WENT TO SIBERIA TO
DO MARRIAGE SEMINARS,

00:14:52.033 --> 00:14:54.533
AND ON OUR WAY HOME, THIS
YOUNG PROPHETIC MAN SAID,

00:14:54.633 --> 00:14:57.599
YOU KNOW YOU'RE CHEATING
YOUR KIDS OUT OF THEIR HERITAGE?

00:14:57.699 --> 00:14:58.433
AND I SAID, WHAT?


00:14:58.533 --> 00:15:00.000
HE SAID, THEY'RE JEWISH.


00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:00.933
THERE'S A DOUBLE BLESSING.


00:15:01.033 --> 00:15:02.766
THEY NEED TO KNOW
WHERE THEY COME FROM

00:15:02.866 --> 00:15:04.500
AS WELL AS HOW THAT RELATES
TO THE CHURCH --

00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:05.933
JONATHAN: INTERESTING
THAT WAS IN SIBERIA.

00:15:06.033 --> 00:15:06.700
MYLES: IT WAS
ON THE WAY BACK.

00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:07.366
KATHARINE: YEAH.


00:15:07.466 --> 00:15:08.300
JONATHAN: FULL CIRCLE.


00:15:08.400 --> 00:15:09.966
KATHARINE: IT IS
A FULL CIRCLE.

00:15:10.066 --> 00:15:12.000
MYLES: SO WE
REALIZED, OKAY,

00:15:12.100 --> 00:15:13.733
THAT WAS THE WORD OF THE LORD,
HOW DO WE DO THIS?

00:15:13.833 --> 00:15:16.366
AND WE STARTED KEEPING
SHABBAT AND KEEPING THE FEASTS

00:15:16.466 --> 00:15:19.933
IN A NON-RELIGIOUS WAY
AND INVITING THE CHURCH.

00:15:20.033 --> 00:15:21.533
OF COURSE, EVERYBODY WANTS
TO SEE HOW THE PASTOR LIVES,

00:15:21.633 --> 00:15:22.366
SO THEY WOULD COME.


00:15:22.466 --> 00:15:23.367
BUT I WOULD SAY --


00:15:23.467 --> 00:15:24.566
JONATHAN: THAT'S NOT
WHY THEY CAME, DAD.

00:15:24.666 --> 00:15:26.333
THEY WANTED TO FEEL
GOD'S PRESENCE.

00:15:26.433 --> 00:15:27.167
MYLES: I KNOW.


00:15:27.267 --> 00:15:28.733
JONATHAN: AND
IT WAS SO COOL.

00:15:28.833 --> 00:15:33.833
IT IS LIKE SO ORGANIC BECAUSE
IT WASN'T LIKE FANCY DRESSUP,

00:15:33.933 --> 00:15:36.466
IT WAS JUST LIKE
A SHABBAT IN OUR HOME.

00:15:36.566 --> 00:15:37.199
REBECCA: LIKE
REAL CHURCH.

00:15:37.299 --> 00:15:38.133
JONATHAN: IT WAS.


00:15:38.233 --> 00:15:39.166
REBECCA: REAL FAMILIES.


00:15:39.266 --> 00:15:40.699
JONATHAN: WE WOULD
GATHER, SING A FEW SONGS.

00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:41.833
KATHARINE:
IMAGINE LIKE A SMALL GROUP.

00:15:41.933 --> 00:15:42.600
JONATHAN:
BREAK BREAD, YEAH,

00:15:42.700 --> 00:15:43.433
A SMALL GROUP OF LIKE --


00:15:43.533 --> 00:15:44.366
REBECCA:
OR A HOME CHURCH

00:15:44.466 --> 00:15:45.666
LIKE THEY DID IN
THE EARLY CHURCH DAYS.

00:15:45.766 --> 00:15:46.633
JONATHAN: I REMEMBER THERE
BEING LIKE EIGHTY PEOPLE THERE.

00:15:46.733 --> 00:15:47.867
OUR HOUSE WAS
LITTLE, BUT --

00:15:47.967 --> 00:15:49.033
KATHARINE: IT WAS
A LOT OF PEOPLE.

00:15:49.133 --> 00:15:50.667
MYLES: IT GOT SO BIG,
WE HAD TO TAKE IT TO CHURCH

00:15:50.767 --> 00:15:52.099
OR HAVE
A BIGGER CITY.

00:15:52.199 --> 00:15:53.233
JONATHAN: WELL, THERE WERE
PEOPLE FALLING IN THE POOL, SO.

00:15:53.333 --> 00:15:54.466
[ LAUGHING ]


00:15:54.566 --> 00:15:56.267
KATHARINE: WELL, WE LOVED TO
HAVE ALL THE KIDS WITH US.

00:15:56.367 --> 00:15:57.533
AND MYLES WOULD.


00:15:57.633 --> 00:16:00.466
HE WOULD DO A LITTLE MINI-SERMON
OR A LITTLE MINI-TEACHING,

00:16:00.566 --> 00:16:02.133
AND THEN
WE WOULD BREAK BREAD,

00:16:02.233 --> 00:16:03.633
WE WOULD HAVE FOOD,
WE WOULD SING,

00:16:03.733 --> 00:16:06.867
WHATEVER WAS RELATED TO
THAT FESTIVAL OR FEAST.

00:16:06.967 --> 00:16:08.633
AND THEN WE'D SHARE.


00:16:08.733 --> 00:16:10.700
AND THEN WE'D LET --


00:16:10.800 --> 00:16:11.433
MYLES: IT WAS
PRETTY AMAZING.

00:16:11.533 --> 00:16:12.200
KATHARINE:
PRAY FOR PEOPLE.

00:16:12.300 --> 00:16:13.033
REBECCA: IT WAS
A GODSAVE.

00:16:13.133 --> 00:16:13.900
MYLES: WE SAW
PEOPLE GET SAVED.

00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:15.533
WE SAW PEOPLE GET HEALED.


00:16:15.633 --> 00:16:19.233
IT WAS A REAL MOVEMENT
OF GOD THAT WAS, RIGHT,

00:16:19.333 --> 00:16:21.533
THEY CAME BECAUSE
IT WAS NOT ABOUT US

00:16:21.633 --> 00:16:24.899
AND NOT ABOUT SEEING MY HOUSE,
WHICH IS MODEST.

00:16:24.999 --> 00:16:26.333
KATHARINE: ALTHOUGH I
DID LIKE YOUR CHALLENGE.

00:16:26.433 --> 00:16:28.133
YOU SAID, IF YOU COME,
YOU HAVE TO BRING...

00:16:28.233 --> 00:16:29.800
MYLES: BRING A JEWISH PERSON
THAT DOESN'T KNOW JESUS.

00:16:29.866 --> 00:16:31.167
KATHARINE: WHICH IS
A GREAT CHALLENGE.

00:16:31.267 --> 00:16:32.866
MYLES: AND SO WE HAD
HOT AND COLD-RUNNING JEWS.

00:16:32.966 --> 00:16:35.333
WE WOULD BRING IN ISRAELIS
THAT WERE GETTING SAVED,

00:16:35.433 --> 00:16:39.099
THESE OLDER LADIES SAT ON
THE COUCH AND THEY WOULD SAY,

00:16:39.199 --> 00:16:41.933
I'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS AS
THE PLACE WHERE I MET JESUS.

00:16:42.033 --> 00:16:44.133
THIS OLD MAN,
95 YEARS OLD,

00:16:44.233 --> 00:16:46.533
WHEN KATHARINE LIT
THE SHABBAT CANDLES,

00:16:46.633 --> 00:16:48.833
HE STARTED WEEPING,
AND HE SAID, WHAT'S HAPPENING,

00:16:48.933 --> 00:16:50.067
WHAT'S HAPPENING?


00:16:50.167 --> 00:16:52.433
HE SAID, I HAVEN'T FELT
LIKE THIS SINCE MY WIFE DIED.

00:16:52.533 --> 00:16:53.933
I SAID, THAT'S YESHUA.


00:16:54.033 --> 00:16:55.400
THAT'S THE JEWISH MESSIAH.


00:16:55.500 --> 00:16:57.699
AND HE'S SAVING
YOUR SOUL RIGHT NOW.

00:16:57.799 --> 00:16:58.833
AND HE'S WEEPING.


00:16:58.933 --> 00:17:01.666
AND GOD'S SO GRACIOUS,
HE GETS SAVED.

00:17:01.766 --> 00:17:03.200
AND THEN ON THE WAY OUT, I
WOULD WALK HIM OUT TO THE CAR

00:17:03.300 --> 00:17:05.333
WITH HIS CARETAKER,
AND ON THE WAY INTO THE CAR,

00:17:05.433 --> 00:17:06.700
HE SAID, OH,
MY NECK HURT SO BAD,

00:17:06.800 --> 00:17:08.600
I PRAYED FOR HIM,
AND HE GOT HEALED.

00:17:08.700 --> 00:17:10.400
AND THEN HE WENT TO
BE WITH THE LORD.

00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:13.767
IT WAS LIKE A TOTALLY
DIVINE END-OF-LIFE APPOINTMENT

00:17:13.867 --> 00:17:14.800
THAT HAPPENED
IN OUR LITTLE HOUSE.

00:17:14.900 --> 00:17:16.633
SO WE STARTED TO CALL
WE DO BETH SHALOM,

00:17:16.733 --> 00:17:19.800
THE HOUSE OF PEACE, BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE FINDING PEACE THERE.

00:17:19.900 --> 00:17:21.133
REBECCA: AND THAT'S
Y'ALL'S MINISTRY.

00:17:21.233 --> 00:17:22.533
AND YOU'RE STILL
DOING IT TO THIS DAY,

00:17:22.633 --> 00:17:24.000
IT'S JUST NOW YOU'RE DOING IT
THROUGH YOUR CHURCH,

00:17:24.100 --> 00:17:25.000
THE FATHER'S HOUSE.


00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:25.733
BOTH: CORRECT.


00:17:25.833 --> 00:17:26.967
JONATHAN:
AND MULTIMEDIA.

00:17:27.067 --> 00:17:29.366
YOU GUYS DO YOUR LIVES,
TALKING ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK,

00:17:29.466 --> 00:17:30.900
WHICH IS GREAT
BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.

00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:33.000
REBECCA: AND YOU SPEAK IF PEOPLE
INVITE YOU OUT TO SPEAK.

00:17:33.100 --> 00:17:34.766
SO THEY ARE
AVAILABLE, FOLKS.

00:17:34.866 --> 00:17:36.299
WE'LL PUT
THEIR INFORMATION,

00:17:36.399 --> 00:17:38.567
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE
WHO LISTEN TO THIS AND THEY WANT

00:17:38.667 --> 00:17:39.567
-- THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO
HAVE YOU GUYS OUT,

00:17:39.667 --> 00:17:41.166
AND SO WE'LL
MAKE SURE TO LINK THAT.

00:17:41.266 --> 00:17:42.866
BUT IT WAS THIS
BEAUTIFUL GOD THING

00:17:42.966 --> 00:17:44.933
THAT YOU WEREN'T TRYING TO
START A CONGREGATION,

00:17:45.033 --> 00:17:46.933
YOU WEREN'T TRYING,
IT WAS JUST ORGANIC.

00:17:47.033 --> 00:17:48.267
GOD PUT A DESIRE
IN YOUR HEARTS,

00:17:48.367 --> 00:17:49.666
YOU STARTED DOING
IT IN YOUR HOME,

00:17:49.766 --> 00:17:50.933
YOU STARTED
INVITING PEOPLE IN,

00:17:51.033 --> 00:17:53.433
AND IT JUST GREW, WHICH IS
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GOD IS

00:17:53.533 --> 00:17:55.133
IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.


00:17:55.233 --> 00:17:56.333
WHICH IS SO BEAUTIFUL.


00:17:56.433 --> 00:17:58.000
AND WHAT I LOVE, ANOTHER THING
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT

00:17:58.100 --> 00:17:59.433
IS Y'ALL'S MARRIAGE.


00:17:59.533 --> 00:18:02.533
BECAUSE HERE YOU ARE, TWO PEOPLE
FROM VERY DIFFERENT WORLDS,

00:18:02.633 --> 00:18:05.100
NEW YORK AND
CALIFORNIA, RAISED JEWISH,

00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.200
RAISED CATHOLIC, JUST COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

00:18:08.300 --> 00:18:09.366
KATHARINE: TOTALLY.


00:18:09.466 --> 00:18:11.900
REBECCA: AND YET YOU GUYS
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL MARRIAGE.

00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:12.700
MYLES: IN KIND.


00:18:12.800 --> 00:18:13.533
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.


00:18:13.667 --> 00:18:14.400
REBECCA: YOU GUYS
ARE A GREAT TEAM.

00:18:14.500 --> 00:18:15.833
YOU RAISED GREAT CHILDREN.


00:18:15.933 --> 00:18:16.733
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.


00:18:16.833 --> 00:18:18.266
REBECCA: AND THE
LEGACY IS CONTINUING.

00:18:18.366 --> 00:18:20.433
NOW YOU HAVE
GRANDCHILDREN.

00:18:20.533 --> 00:18:25.300
BUT YOU ARE A LIVING
EXAMPLE OF ONE NEW MAN,

00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:27.100
JEW AND GENTILE,
DOING LIFE TOGETHER

00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:29.333
AND MODELING THAT
TO THE CHURCH.

00:18:29.433 --> 00:18:31.033
SO I WANT YOU GUYS
TO SPEAK TO THAT.

00:18:31.133 --> 00:18:35.033
KATHARINE: OH, THAT'S
A JOY, BECAUSE AT FIRST,

00:18:35.133 --> 00:18:38.067
AGAINST ALL ODDS, MY
FAMILY WAS NOT FOR IT.

00:18:38.167 --> 00:18:39.300
REBECCA: OOH,
TELL THE STORY.

00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:40.533
PEOPLE WANT THE STORIES.


00:18:40.633 --> 00:18:41.566
KATHARINE: OUR
GENTILE FAMILY,

00:18:41.666 --> 00:18:43.600
MYLES IS A LITTLE BIT
OLDER, HE'S JEWISH.

00:18:43.700 --> 00:18:46.866
MY MOM'S LIKE, YOU CAN'T MARRY
A JEW, YOU'LL BE PERSECUTED.

00:18:46.966 --> 00:18:47.733
I SAID --


00:18:47.833 --> 00:18:49.033
MYLES: SHE WAS RIGHT.


00:18:49.133 --> 00:18:49.933
KATHARINE: I SAID,
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

00:18:50.033 --> 00:18:51.933
JESUS WAS A JEW.


00:18:52.033 --> 00:18:54.866
AND SO MY HEART WAS SO
CONNECTED TO JESUS

00:18:54.966 --> 00:18:58.033
THAT I KNEW THAT IF HE WAS
CONNECTED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE

00:18:58.133 --> 00:19:00.199
THAT I WANTED TO BE
CONNECTED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.

00:19:00.299 --> 00:19:01.400
REBECCA: YOU'RE
LIKE A REAL RUTH.

00:19:01.500 --> 00:19:02.200
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.


00:19:02.300 --> 00:19:03.133
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:19:03.233 --> 00:19:04.366
KATHARINE: THAT'S A
HUGE COMPLIMENT

00:19:04.466 --> 00:19:07.933
BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WE CHOSE
TO FOCUS OUR IDENTITY ON.

00:19:08.033 --> 00:19:11.100
AND EVEN IN OUR WEDDING,
YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE,

00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:13.800
WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL
OPERA SINGER SING THIS SONG.

00:19:13.900 --> 00:19:14.833
REBECCA:
THAT'S SO COOL.

00:19:14.933 --> 00:19:16.199
KATHARINE: YEAH, IT
WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL.

00:19:16.299 --> 00:19:18.533
REBECCA: ALSO, I WANT YOU TO SAY
YOUR PARENTS HAD YOUR SIGHTS --

00:19:18.633 --> 00:19:21.033
THEY HAD THEIR SIGHTS ON YOU
MARRYING SOMEONE DIFFERENT.

00:19:21.133 --> 00:19:21.700
KATHARINE: YES.


00:19:21.800 --> 00:19:22.700
MYLES: OH, BOY.


00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:23.500
REBECCA: IT'S VERY
DIFFERENT FROM MYLES.

00:19:23.600 --> 00:19:25.466
JONATHAN:
OH, HIS PARENTS.

00:19:25.566 --> 00:19:26.700
MYLES: NO, NOT ME.


00:19:26.800 --> 00:19:28.333
KATHARINE: MY -- SO I WAS,
AT ONE POINT, IN BETWEEN --

00:19:28.433 --> 00:19:29.500
REBECCA: THEY HAD THEIR
DREAMS AND EXPECTATIONS.

00:19:29.600 --> 00:19:32.000
KATHARINE: YEAH, IN
BETWEEN DATING MYLES,

00:19:32.100 --> 00:19:34.900
AND I WAS DATING
ANOTHER GENTLEMAN TOO.

00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:36.400
BECAUSE IN THOSE
DAYS, YOU DATED.

00:19:36.500 --> 00:19:37.800
YOU WEREN'T GOING, YEAH.


00:19:37.900 --> 00:19:39.467
REBECCA: YOU WEREN'T IN
A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP.

00:19:39.567 --> 00:19:40.699
JONATHAN: SO I WAS
DATING UP UNTIL REBECCA,

00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:42.799
AND THEN I SAW REBECCA,
AND I WAS LIKE, GAME OVER.

00:19:42.899 --> 00:19:43.533
[ LAUGHING ]


00:19:43.633 --> 00:19:44.300
KATHARINE:
THAT'S IT, RIGHT.

00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:45.399
REBECCA: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:19:45.499 --> 00:19:46.300
YOU WERE FOCUSED.


00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:46.933
MYLES: THAT'S
WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.

00:19:47.033 --> 00:19:47.699
REBECCA: I WAS END GAME.


00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:48.766
JONATHAN: YOU WERE
END GAME.

00:19:48.866 --> 00:19:49.933
MYLES: WITH KATHARINE,
JUST SO YOU KNOW,

00:19:50.033 --> 00:19:54.133
THIS GUY WAS A MALE MODEL
MILLIONAIRE HEIR

00:19:54.233 --> 00:19:57.567
TO A CLOTHING FORTUNE WHO HAD
A FERRARI AND A HOUSE

00:19:57.667 --> 00:19:59.233
IN PACIFIC HEIGHTS
IN SAN FRANCISCO.

00:19:59.333 --> 00:20:04.067
SO NATURALLY, HER PARENTS WERE
NOT CRAZY ABOUT THIS LITTLE JEW

00:20:04.167 --> 00:20:06.233
COMING AROUND,
WHICH I DON'T --

00:20:06.333 --> 00:20:09.600
REBECCA: AND YOUR PARENTS WERE
FROM THAT UPPER-CLASS SOCIETY,

00:20:09.700 --> 00:20:11.466
SO YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS,
THEY WANT TO KEEP --

00:20:11.566 --> 00:20:12.266
KATHARINE:
SOCIETY PEOPLE.

00:20:12.366 --> 00:20:13.366
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:20:13.466 --> 00:20:14.899
KATHARINE: WELL, I'M
SITTING IN HIS FERRARI,

00:20:14.999 --> 00:20:17.499
AND THE LORD SHOWED ME
MY LIFE, AND HE SAID,

00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.500
YOU CAN CHOOSE THAT, BUT
I HAVE A PATH FOR YOU.

00:20:20.600 --> 00:20:24.300
AND HE SHOWED ME THAT I
WOULD BE HAPPIER FOLLOWING HIM.

00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:25.733
AND I CHOSE HIM.


00:20:25.833 --> 00:20:29.533
AND I QUICKLY, THAT
PERSON, HE GOT BAPTIZED,

00:20:29.633 --> 00:20:34.266
BUT THAT PERSON, I REALIZED THAT
THAT WAS NOT MY LIFE PARTNER.

00:20:34.366 --> 00:20:36.699
AND SO THERE'S TIMES LIKE
THAT WHERE YOU JUST HAVE TO

00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:39.200
SURRENDER TO GOD'S
CALL AND FIGURE OUT,

00:20:39.300 --> 00:20:41.666
LET HIM CHOOSE YOUR
PARTNER, RIGHT.

00:20:41.766 --> 00:20:42.533
REBECCA: EXACTLY.


00:20:42.633 --> 00:20:44.366
BECAUSE SO YOU
LET THAT GUY GO,

00:20:44.466 --> 00:20:45.933
AND THEN MYLES...?


00:20:46.033 --> 00:20:48.000
DID YOU KNOW THEN
THAT MYLES WAS THE ONE?

00:20:48.100 --> 00:20:49.133
KATHARINE: YES.


00:20:49.233 --> 00:20:50.099
REBECCA: HOW
DID THAT UNFOLD?

00:20:50.199 --> 00:20:51.133
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF
I KNOW THIS STORY.

00:20:51.233 --> 00:20:51.966
JONATHAN: YEAH,
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

00:20:52.066 --> 00:20:53.133
REBECCA: AND
HOW DID YOU KNOW?

00:20:53.233 --> 00:20:55.433
BECAUSE YOU WERE ALSO A
HOT COMMODITY ON YOUR END.

00:20:55.533 --> 00:20:57.433
PEOPLE WERE TRYING
TO SET YOU UP.

00:20:57.533 --> 00:20:58.099
MYLES: I DON'T
KNOW ABOUT THAT,

00:20:58.199 --> 00:20:59.133
BUT I SAW KATHY --


00:20:59.233 --> 00:21:00.100
REBECCA: YEAH,
YOU WERE, I KNOW IT.

00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.033
MYLES: I SAW KATHARINE
ACROSS THE ROOM,

00:21:02.133 --> 00:21:05.400
AND IT WAS LIKE THE OLD
ORIGINAL<i>WEST SIDE STORY</i>

00:21:05.500 --> 00:21:07.299
WHEN TONY SEES MARIA.


00:21:07.399 --> 00:21:11.400
IT'S LIKE THE ROOM FADED
AWAY, AND THERE SHE WAS,

00:21:11.500 --> 00:21:12.367
AND IT WAS LIKE
MICHAEL CORLEONE

00:21:12.467 --> 00:21:14.467
GETTING HIT BY THE
THUNDERBOLT IN SICILY.

00:21:14.567 --> 00:21:15.566
A FEW<i>GODFATHER</i> FANS.


00:21:15.666 --> 00:21:16.866
[ LAUGHING ]


00:21:16.966 --> 00:21:17.966
MYLES: BUT I WAS
HIT BY THE THUNDERBOLT.

00:21:18.066 --> 00:21:19.033
I SAID, THAT'S IT.


00:21:19.133 --> 00:21:20.566
WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO,
I'M GOING TO GET HER.

00:21:20.666 --> 00:21:21.467
REBECCA: AW.


00:21:21.567 --> 00:21:22.367
JONATHAN: IT'S
PRETTY DEFINITE.

00:21:22.467 --> 00:21:23.699
REBECCA: HEY, BUT YOU
GOT RELEASED

00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.333
BY WHO WAS OVER
JEWS FOR JESUS, RIGHT?

00:21:26.433 --> 00:21:27.366
THAT WAS A BIG DEAL, TOO.


00:21:27.466 --> 00:21:28.333
MYLES: OH, THAT'S
A GREAT STORY.

00:21:28.433 --> 00:21:28.999
JONATHAN: OH, YEAH,
THAT'S STILL GOOD.

00:21:29.099 --> 00:21:29.666
REBECCA:
TELL THAT STORY.

00:21:29.766 --> 00:21:30.933
MYLES: THIS I CAN NAME.


00:21:31.033 --> 00:21:32.899
MITCH GLAZER WAS THE CHIEF
OF STATION IN JEWS FOR JESUS,

00:21:32.999 --> 00:21:35.067
HE NOW LEADS
A CHOSEN PEOPLE.

00:21:35.167 --> 00:21:36.767
HE'S A WONDERFUL GUY,
A GREAT MINISTER.

00:21:36.867 --> 00:21:38.333
KATHARINE: SO THE INTRO
TO THAT WAS THAT WE'D PUT --

00:21:38.433 --> 00:21:39.633
WHEN WE FIRST
MET EACH OTHER,

00:21:39.733 --> 00:21:41.866
SO WE MET OUTSIDE
OF THE LORD, RIGHT,

00:21:41.966 --> 00:21:45.199
AND SO THEN WE PUT OUR
RELATIONSHIP ON HOLD

00:21:45.299 --> 00:21:47.267
WHEN WE
MET THE LORD.

00:21:47.367 --> 00:21:49.333
AND SO THEN YOU WENT AND
SERVED WITH JEWS FOR JESUS.

00:21:49.433 --> 00:21:50.600
SO THIS WAS, WE WERE ON --


00:21:50.700 --> 00:21:52.133
JONATHAN: THEY WERE ALWAYS
DEDICATED TO THE MINISTRY,

00:21:52.233 --> 00:21:53.033
REBECCA.


00:21:53.133 --> 00:21:53.899
SO EVEN BACK THEN,
THEY WERE LIKE,

00:21:53.999 --> 00:21:54.766
WE'VE GOT TO STOP.


00:21:54.866 --> 00:21:55.766
KATHARINE: PUT IT
ON THE ALTAR.

00:21:55.866 --> 00:21:57.900
IT WAS AN OLD SAYING.


00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:03.133
MYLES: SO I AUDITIONED FOR
THE LIBERATED WAILING WALL,

00:22:03.233 --> 00:22:04.199
WHICH WAS --


00:22:04.299 --> 00:22:05.166
JONATHAN: AND WE HAVE
A GOOD PHOTO OF THAT,

00:22:05.266 --> 00:22:05.633
WITH YOU IN THE
SUBWAY WITH A GUITAR.

00:22:05.733 --> 00:22:06.233
[ LAUGHING ]


00:22:06.333 --> 00:22:07.133
MYLES: THAT'S RIGHT.


00:22:07.233 --> 00:22:08.633
REBECCA: TELL PEOPLE
WHAT THAT WAS.

00:22:08.733 --> 00:22:11.067
MYLES: SO THAT WAS THE
JEWS FOR JESUS TRAVELING BAND.

00:22:11.167 --> 00:22:12.467
THEY WOULD TAKE 18 MONTHS.


00:22:12.567 --> 00:22:13.433
JONATHAN: GEEZ.


00:22:13.533 --> 00:22:15.066
IT'S A LONG TOUR.


00:22:15.166 --> 00:22:16.200
MYLES: YEAH.


00:22:16.300 --> 00:22:19.366
GO AROUND THE COUNTRY IN A
BUS AND SING AND PREACH.

00:22:19.466 --> 00:22:20.333
JONATHAN:
SING WHAT EXACTLY?

00:22:20.433 --> 00:22:21.700
ARE THEY SINGING
JEWISH FOLK SONGS?

00:22:21.800 --> 00:22:22.300
MYLES: NO, NO.


00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:23.599
GOSPEL MUSIC.


00:22:23.699 --> 00:22:24.466
JONATHAN: TO JEWS?


00:22:24.566 --> 00:22:25.500
MYLES: YEAH,
TO ANYBODY.

00:22:25.600 --> 00:22:26.266
ANYBODY.


00:22:26.366 --> 00:22:27.267
STREET MINISTRIES.


00:22:27.367 --> 00:22:28.300
REBECCA: SO YOU'RE
DOING STREET EVANGELISM.

00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:29.300
MYLES: I DIDN'T DO IT.


00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:31.233
BECAUSE I WENT TO MITCH
AND I SAID, LOOK,

00:22:31.333 --> 00:22:33.966
I JUST PASSED
THE AUDITION,

00:22:34.066 --> 00:22:37.133
BUT I JUST ENTERED
BIBLE COLLEGE,

00:22:37.233 --> 00:22:39.300
AND THERE'S THIS GIRL.


00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.733
AND HE, BACK IN THE DAY,
HE HAD A LONG BEARD,

00:22:41.833 --> 00:22:44.800
HE JUST SAT BACK AND HE
STROKED HIS BEARD AND HE SAID,

00:22:44.900 --> 00:22:46.599
STAY HOME
AND MARRY THE GIRL.

00:22:46.699 --> 00:22:47.833
REBECCA: WHICH
IS A HUGE DEAL.

00:22:47.933 --> 00:22:48.733
MYLES: FOR THE
JEWS FOR JESUS,

00:22:48.833 --> 00:22:50.799
THEY'RE LIKE A
SHANGHAI PRESS GANG.

00:22:50.899 --> 00:22:51.466
THEY TAKE --


00:22:51.566 --> 00:22:52.600
KATHARINE: OH, MYLES.


00:22:52.700 --> 00:22:53.833
MYLES: THEY TAKE ANY
JEW THAT'S WILLING TO SERVE,

00:22:53.933 --> 00:22:55.766
THEY JUST
DISAPPEAR FROM THE LIGHT.

00:22:55.866 --> 00:22:56.600
KATHARINE: THEY'RE
VERY MILITANT.

00:22:56.700 --> 00:22:57.266
MYLES: NO,
THEY'RE VERY SWEET.

00:22:57.366 --> 00:22:58.467
AND THEN SO POWERFUL --


00:22:58.567 --> 00:22:59.299
REBECCA: BUT THEY WOULD
HAVE WANTED SOMEONE LIKE YOU

00:22:59.399 --> 00:23:00.766
ON THE TEAM,
SO FOR HIM TO,

00:23:00.866 --> 00:23:02.399
THAT JUST SHOWS IT
WAS A GOD THING.

00:23:02.499 --> 00:23:04.599
MYLES: NO, NO, BUT
HERE'S WHAT, I JOKE,

00:23:04.699 --> 00:23:06.633
I HAD MITCH ON MY PODCAST,
AND I JOKED WITH HIM ABOUT IT,

00:23:06.733 --> 00:23:08.099
AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I KNEW
YOU WOULD BE USELESS

00:23:08.199 --> 00:23:09.533
IF YOU'RE THINKING
ABOUT HER THE WHOLE TIME.

00:23:09.633 --> 00:23:11.766
[ LAUGHING ]


00:23:11.866 --> 00:23:14.567
REBECCA: SO YOU
WENT AFTER THE GIRL.

00:23:14.667 --> 00:23:15.467
MYLES: I DID.


00:23:15.567 --> 00:23:16.267
REBECCA: NOW, HOW
DID THAT PLAY OUT?

00:23:16.367 --> 00:23:17.566
KATHARINE:
WELL, IT WAS GOOD,

00:23:17.666 --> 00:23:19.700
BECAUSE WHEN WE
PUT THAT ON HOLD,

00:23:19.800 --> 00:23:23.300
HE WAS -- YOU DID SERVE WITH
THE JEWS FOR JESUS ON CAMPAIGN,

00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:24.799
BUT IT WASN'T
THAT LONG STINT,

00:23:24.899 --> 00:23:26.766
IT WAS MORE LIKE
A SUMMER CAMPAIGN.

00:23:26.866 --> 00:23:27.967
MYLES:
THROUGH SUMMER, YEAH.

00:23:28.067 --> 00:23:30.733
KATHARINE: AND SO WHEN
MYLES WAS AWAY DURING THAT TIME,

00:23:30.833 --> 00:23:32.800
I REALIZED HE WAS
THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO TELL

00:23:32.900 --> 00:23:34.300
WHAT GOD WAS
DOING IN MY LIFE,

00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.333
HE IS THE ONE THAT I
WOULD WANT TO CALL.

00:23:36.433 --> 00:23:38.133
MYLES: KIND OF LIKE YOU GUYS
HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS.

00:23:38.233 --> 00:23:40.933
KATHARINE: SO WE
HAD A LONG DISTANCE.

00:23:41.033 --> 00:23:43.666
SO HE WAS THE ONE THAT
I WANTED TO SHARE,

00:23:43.766 --> 00:23:46.400
AND HE'S THE ONE THAT I
FELT THE SAFEST WITH.

00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:49.299
AND SO THE LORD JUST
STARTED IMPRESSING TO ME

00:23:49.399 --> 00:23:51.067
THAT THIS IS
THE ONE, YEAH.

00:23:51.167 --> 00:23:52.800
REBECCA: SO HOW DID
Y'ALL LINK BACK UP?

00:23:52.900 --> 00:23:53.800
KATHARINE:
WELL, WE WERE --

00:23:53.900 --> 00:23:54.500
MYLES: WELL, WE WERE
IN THE SAME CHURCH.

00:23:54.600 --> 00:23:55.266
KATHARINE: SAME CHURCH.


00:23:55.366 --> 00:23:56.033
MYLES: THE
ONE I WENT TO,

00:23:56.133 --> 00:23:57.166
CAMPAIGN IN
NEW YORK CITY --

00:23:57.266 --> 00:23:58.333
REBECCA: AND THAT'S THE
CHURCH THAT HE GREW UP IN?

00:23:58.433 --> 00:23:59.100
BOTH: YES.


00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:00.133
REBECCA: OKAY.


00:24:00.233 --> 00:24:01.367
KATHARINE: BUT I WAS
STILL BRINGING PEOPLE

00:24:01.467 --> 00:24:03.133
TO THE CHURCH
TO GET SAVED.

00:24:03.233 --> 00:24:05.366
FRIENDS OF MINE,
COME GET SAVED.

00:24:05.466 --> 00:24:07.266
MYLES: YEP.


00:24:07.366 --> 00:24:09.200
WE WERE MINISTERING APART,
BUT THEN GOD BROUGHT US

00:24:09.300 --> 00:24:10.833
BACK TOGETHER
AT THE CHURCH.

00:24:10.933 --> 00:24:12.666
REBECCA: SO YOU GUYS
ARE AT THE SAME CHURCH,

00:24:12.766 --> 00:24:14.067
YOU GET LINKED BACK UP.


00:24:14.167 --> 00:24:17.199
HOW LONG DO YOU GUYS DATE UNTIL
YOU'RE ON THE MARRIAGE PATH,

00:24:17.299 --> 00:24:18.933
AND TELL ME ABOUT HOW
YOUR PARENTS RESPONDED

00:24:19.033 --> 00:24:21.433
TO YOU TWO
GETTING MARRIED?

00:24:21.533 --> 00:24:24.133
KATHARINE: WELL, YOU ASKED --
YOU ASKED MY MOM, RIGHT?

00:24:24.233 --> 00:24:25.733
JONATHAN: YEAH, YOU
HAVE A GOOD, OKAY,

00:24:25.833 --> 00:24:26.933
YOU HAVE A LOT OF
GOOD STORIES ON THIS.

00:24:27.033 --> 00:24:28.233
REBECCA: I WANT
TO HEAR THE STORIES.

00:24:28.333 --> 00:24:30.433
MYLES: SO WE WERE
TOGETHER TWO YEARS

00:24:30.533 --> 00:24:33.166
ON THE WAY TO THE ALTAR,
TO MARRIAGE.

00:24:33.266 --> 00:24:34.233
JONATHAN: THAT'S A
GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME.

00:24:34.333 --> 00:24:35.200
MYLES: IT WAS.


00:24:35.300 --> 00:24:35.766
REBECCA: SO YOU
DIDN'T RUSH ANYTHING.

00:24:35.866 --> 00:24:36.900
MYLES: NO, NO, NO.


00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:39.333
WE WERE -- YOU REMEMBER,
WE GREW UP IN THIS LIKE --

00:24:39.433 --> 00:24:40.667
SALVATION, WE GREW UP
IN THIS VERY

00:24:40.767 --> 00:24:43.233
HOLINESS-ORIENTED,
MISSIONS-ORIENTED PLACE,

00:24:43.333 --> 00:24:45.466
AND IT'S LIKE FEAR
OF THE LORD WAS REAL.

00:24:45.566 --> 00:24:46.700
AND SO WE DIDN'T
WANT TO, A,

00:24:46.800 --> 00:24:49.900
MAKE A MISTAKE
OR RUSH ANYTHING.

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:53.033
SO IT TOOK
ABOUT TWO YEARS,

00:24:53.133 --> 00:24:54.100
BUT THEN WE GOT MARRIED.


00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:57.333
PARENTS' REACTION,
OF COURSE, DAD WAS GONE.

00:24:57.433 --> 00:24:58.667
MY MOM.


00:24:58.767 --> 00:24:59.433
KATHARINE: [ SIGHS ]


00:24:59.533 --> 00:25:01.266
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.


00:25:01.366 --> 00:25:02.499
SHE WAS NOT HAPPY AT ME.


00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:03.800
[ LAUGHING ]


00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:04.933
REBECCA: WHICH IS
SUCH A GOOD THING,

00:25:05.033 --> 00:25:06.799
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN THIS
SITUATION THEMSELVES.

00:25:06.899 --> 00:25:07.466
KATHARINE: RIGHT.


00:25:07.566 --> 00:25:08.733
MYLES: YES.


00:25:08.833 --> 00:25:10.533
SO MY MOM, OF COURSE, EXPECTED
ME TO MARRY A JEWISH GIRL,

00:25:10.633 --> 00:25:12.033
BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

00:25:12.133 --> 00:25:13.266
AND WE USED TO DO.


00:25:13.366 --> 00:25:17.666
SO SHE WAS AMBIVALENT.


00:25:17.766 --> 00:25:21.066
BUT HERE'S THE COOLEST THING:
WHEN KATHERINE CAME TO NEW YORK,

00:25:21.166 --> 00:25:23.567
WE HAD A -- WE
HAD A PARTY AFTER, RIGHT?

00:25:23.667 --> 00:25:24.666
KATHARINE: YES.


00:25:24.766 --> 00:25:27.166
SO THIS WAS -- WE HAD A
RECEPTION PARTY AFTER.

00:25:27.266 --> 00:25:28.867
MYLES: WE HAD A WEST COAST
AND AN EAST COAST RECEPTION.

00:25:28.967 --> 00:25:30.433
KATHARINE: A LOT OF THE PEOPLE
DID COME TO THE WEDDING,

00:25:30.533 --> 00:25:32.367
BUT THEN WE HAD
THE REST OF THE FAMILY,

00:25:32.467 --> 00:25:34.033
WE HAD A RECEPTION
FOR THEM AFTER.

00:25:34.133 --> 00:25:35.000
MYLES: IN NEW YORK.


00:25:35.100 --> 00:25:35.833
KATHARINE: WE HAD
ALREADY BEEN MARRIED.

00:25:35.933 --> 00:25:36.800
REBECCA: OH, I
DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:37.899
MYLES: AND THE
AMBIVALENCE WAS OBVIOUS

00:25:37.999 --> 00:25:38.999
AT THE PART
OF MY FAMILY.

00:25:39.099 --> 00:25:40.333
AND SO KATHARINE,
TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENED.

00:25:40.433 --> 00:25:41.667
YOU WENT INTO THE
BATHROOM AND WEPT.

00:25:41.767 --> 00:25:43.167
KATHARINE:
WELL, I REALIZED,

00:25:43.267 --> 00:25:44.066
THEY DON'T LIKE ME.


00:25:44.166 --> 00:25:44.900
[ LAUGHING ]


00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:45.700
REBECCA: OH, NO.


00:25:45.800 --> 00:25:46.600
KATHARINE: I
FELT THE COLDNESS.

00:25:46.700 --> 00:25:47.366
JONATHAN:
HARD TO BELIEVE.

00:25:47.466 --> 00:25:48.633
KATHARINE:
AND IT'S LIKE,

00:25:48.733 --> 00:25:49.766
I HADN'T EVER FELT THAT.


00:25:49.866 --> 00:25:50.533
JONATHAN: THAT'S
GOT TO BE HARD.

00:25:50.633 --> 00:25:51.566
KATHARINE: YEAH.


00:25:51.666 --> 00:25:52.400
IT WAS LIKE, WELL, I
DIDN'T FEEL ACCEPTED.

00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:54.633
AND EVEN, JUST A COLDNESS.


00:25:54.733 --> 00:25:58.633
NOW, I THINK MAYBE ALSO
A DISTANCE IN BELIEF OR FAITH.

00:25:58.733 --> 00:26:01.333
SO I WENT INTO THE
BATHROOM AND I THREW MYSELF

00:26:01.433 --> 00:26:04.800
ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR
AND I SAID, GOD, HELP ME.

00:26:04.900 --> 00:26:06.267
HELP ME FIND A WAY.


00:26:06.367 --> 00:26:08.299
AND HE GAVE ME A SCRIPTURE
THAT HE WOULD BE

00:26:08.399 --> 00:26:10.700
THE REPAIRER OF THE BREACH
AND HE WOULD MAKE ME --

00:26:10.800 --> 00:26:12.667
AND HE WOULD GIVE US
A PAST TO DWELL ON.

00:26:12.767 --> 00:26:14.766
AND THAT'S OUT OF ISAIAH.


00:26:14.866 --> 00:26:17.600
I THINK IT'S 58 -- 54.


00:26:17.700 --> 00:26:20.800
AND SO THAT HE WAS GOING TO
BUILD UP THE OLD WASTE PLACES,

00:26:20.900 --> 00:26:22.433
THE PLACES THAT
HAD BEEN BROKEN DOWN,

00:26:22.533 --> 00:26:23.833
THE PLACES THAT,
IN THEIR LIVES,

00:26:23.933 --> 00:26:27.133
HAD BEEN PAINFUL SO THAT
THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RECEIVE ME

00:26:27.233 --> 00:26:28.933
OR FELT
FEARFUL TO RECEIVE ME.

00:26:29.033 --> 00:26:33.866
AND SO THROUGH MANY --
MUCH LOVE AND SURRENDERS

00:26:33.966 --> 00:26:35.966
AND JUST BEING THERE
FOR HIS MOM,

00:26:36.066 --> 00:26:37.600
WE FINALLY BUILT
THAT BRIDGE.

00:26:37.700 --> 00:26:38.500
DON'T YOU THINK, MYLES?


00:26:38.600 --> 00:26:39.466
MYLES: I WOULD SAY.


00:26:39.566 --> 00:26:40.667
KATHARINE: I WOULD
TAKE HER PHONE CALL.

00:26:40.767 --> 00:26:42.299
AND SHE JUST WANTED TO LET
-- SHE JUST WANTED TO KNOW

00:26:42.399 --> 00:26:45.533
THAT I WASN'T GOING TO
TAKE HIM TOTALLY AWAY FROM HER.

00:26:45.633 --> 00:26:47.833
AND WE WOULD SAY,
GRANDMA HANNAH...

00:26:47.933 --> 00:26:49.300
MYLES: THERE'S ENOUGH
LOVE TO GO AROUND.

00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:50.300
KATHARINE: YEAH.


00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:51.633
MYLES: I KNEW THAT
THIS WAS THE PRIMARY.

00:26:51.733 --> 00:26:52.766
KATHARINE: WE SAY,
THIS IS FIRST.

00:26:52.866 --> 00:26:53.866
MYLES: THIS IS FIRST.


00:26:53.966 --> 00:26:55.633
BUT THERE'S ENOUGH
LOVE TO GO AROUND.

00:26:55.733 --> 00:26:58.900
AND AT THE END OF MY MOM'S
LIFE, SHE HAD DEMENTIA,

00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.600
AT THE END OF HER LIFE, THIS WAS
THE ONLY FACE SHE RECOGNIZED.

00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:04.267
KATHARINE: AND
SHE CAME TO THE LORD.

00:27:04.367 --> 00:27:05.200
MYLES: OH, YEAH.


00:27:05.300 --> 00:27:06.300
SHE GOT SAVED.


00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:07.700
JONATHAN: WHAT DID SHE
SAY WHEN SHE GOT SAVED,

00:27:07.800 --> 00:27:08.833
SHE SAID,
DON'T TELL MYLES?

00:27:08.933 --> 00:27:09.633
[ LAUGHING ]


00:27:09.733 --> 00:27:10.899
KATHARINE: THAT'S
ANOTHER STORY.

00:27:10.999 --> 00:27:13.666
MYLES: I WAS IN AFRICA ON MY
FIRST OVERSEAS MISSIONS TRIP

00:27:13.766 --> 00:27:15.033
WITH THE PASTORS,


00:27:15.133 --> 00:27:18.200
AND MY MOM WAS IN A
FACILITY BY THEN,

00:27:18.300 --> 00:27:19.666
AND A REALLY NICE PLACE.


00:27:19.766 --> 00:27:22.300
AND OUR CHURCH HAPPENED TO
DO A BIBLE STUDY THERE,

00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:24.166
SO THEY WOULD DO
IT WEEKLY THERE.

00:27:24.266 --> 00:27:25.300
AT THE END OF ONE OF THE --


00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.333
REBECCA: SO YOUR MOM
HAD MOVED OUT TO CALIFORNIA.

00:27:27.433 --> 00:27:28.466
MYLES: OH, YEAH,
WE BROUGHT HER OUT.

00:27:28.566 --> 00:27:29.767
KATHARINE: YEAH, WE
MOVED HER OUT BECAUSE WE --

00:27:29.867 --> 00:27:30.733
REBECCA: AND SEE, AND YOU TOOK
CARE OF HER AND HONORED HER.

00:27:30.833 --> 00:27:31.599
MYLES: IN OUR HOME.


00:27:31.699 --> 00:27:32.633
REBECCA: SEE, SO
YOU NEVER GAVE UP.

00:27:32.733 --> 00:27:34.300
YOU GUYS WERE ALWAYS
LOVING TO HER.

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.100
AND THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT WORD FOR PEOPLE

00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.367
THAT ARE IN DIFFICULT SITUATION,
LOVE NEVER FAILS, DON'T GIVE UP.

00:27:39.467 --> 00:27:39.999
KATHARINE: YES.


00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:41.233
MYLES: YEAH.


00:27:41.333 --> 00:27:43.733
AND ESPECIALLY IN OUR CULTURE
WHERE WE'RE NOT USED TO

00:27:43.833 --> 00:27:47.533
HONORING THE ELDERLY
LIKE YOU GUYS HONOR ME.

00:27:47.633 --> 00:27:48.166
ANYWAY --


00:27:48.266 --> 00:27:48.900
KATHARINE: YES, YOU DO.


00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:50.433
THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU DO.


00:27:50.533 --> 00:27:51.166
[ LAUGHING ]


00:27:51.266 --> 00:27:52.199
MYLES: SO I
WAS IN AFRICA,

00:27:52.299 --> 00:27:53.566
AND THIS YOUNG MAN
FINISHED HIS BIBLE STUDY,

00:27:53.666 --> 00:27:55.466
HE ASKED ME TO
SALVATION CALL,

00:27:55.566 --> 00:27:58.466
AND MY MOM RAISED HER
HAND IN THE BACK ROW.

00:27:58.566 --> 00:28:00.733
AND HE WENT OVER TO HER
AND HE KNELT DOWN AND SAID,

00:28:00.833 --> 00:28:02.966
HANNAH, DO YOU
KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING?

00:28:03.066 --> 00:28:04.600
AND SHE SAID, IN TYPICAL
NEW YORK FASHION,

00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:06.433
SHE SAID, JUST
DON'T TELL MYLES.

00:28:06.533 --> 00:28:07.899
[ LAUGHING ]


00:28:07.999 --> 00:28:09.433
MYLES: BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN
PREACHING TO HER FOR TEN YEARS.

00:28:09.500 --> 00:28:10.266
KATHARINE: I DON'T
WANT HIM TO BE RIGHT.

00:28:10.366 --> 00:28:10.967
[ LAUGHING ]


00:28:11.067 --> 00:28:11.933
MYLES:
LEST HE BE RIGHT.

00:28:12.033 --> 00:28:13.266
SO SHE BEGAN TO BELIEVE --


00:28:13.366 --> 00:28:14.500
REBECCA: DID YOU KNOW THAT SHE
WAS GOING TO THAT BIBLE STUDY?

00:28:14.600 --> 00:28:15.400
MYLES: OH, YEAH, YEAH.


00:28:15.500 --> 00:28:16.200
KATHARINE: YOU DID?


00:28:16.300 --> 00:28:16.766
MYLES: DID I?


00:28:16.866 --> 00:28:17.467
OH, NO, NO.


00:28:17.567 --> 00:28:18.800
I WAS IN AFRICA.


00:28:18.900 --> 00:28:20.166
REBECCA: SO YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
THAT SHE WAS EVEN THERE.

00:28:20.266 --> 00:28:20.933
MYLES: I KNEW
NOTHING ABOUT IT.

00:28:21.033 --> 00:28:21.700
KATHARINE: NO.


00:28:21.800 --> 00:28:22.900
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.


00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:23.766
KATHARINE: AND THAT'S
ANOTHER WORD THAT GOD GAVE US,

00:28:23.866 --> 00:28:25.400
THAT IF WE
DO HIS BUSINESS,

00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:26.933
HE'LL TAKE CARE
OF OUR BUSINESS.

00:28:27.033 --> 00:28:28.267
JONATHAN: THAT'S A GOOD
WORD FOR EVERYBODY, YEAH.

00:28:28.367 --> 00:28:29.199
KATHARINE: YEAH.


00:28:29.299 --> 00:28:30.499
MYLES: YEAH.


00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.200
WE HAVE TO, IT'S NOT EASY,
BUT WE NEED TO DISCERN THE WORD

00:28:33.300 --> 00:28:36.233
AND THE DIRECTION AND TAKE CARE
OF WHAT HE'S CALLING US TO DO.

00:28:36.333 --> 00:28:37.866
I MUST BE ABOUT MY
FATHER'S BUSINESS,

00:28:37.966 --> 00:28:39.733
YESHUA SAID IN
THE TEMPLE, RIGHT.

00:28:39.833 --> 00:28:43.700
SO AS WE YIELDED TO THAT,
GOD HAS BLESSED US

00:28:43.800 --> 00:28:44.666
WITH THINGS LIKE THAT.


00:28:44.766 --> 00:28:46.200
MY MOM GOT SAVED,
MY SISTER GOT SAVED.

00:28:46.300 --> 00:28:47.899
WE PRAYED OVER EVERYONE
IN KATHARINE'S FAMILY,

00:28:47.999 --> 00:28:49.133
BUT THEY WERE LIKE
WHACK-A-MOLE,

00:28:49.233 --> 00:28:50.033
KEEP TRYING TO GET THEM.


00:28:50.133 --> 00:28:51.066
[ LAUGHING ]


00:28:51.166 --> 00:28:51.966
REBECCA: WE
CAN'T KEEP THAT IN.

00:28:52.066 --> 00:28:53.333
[ LAUGHING ]


00:28:53.433 --> 00:28:54.800
REBECCA: YES, BUT I DO
WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT.

00:28:54.900 --> 00:28:57.733
SO THROUGH YOU, SO
YOU COULD HAVE BEEN DISCOURAGED,

00:28:57.833 --> 00:28:59.233
BUT
Y'ALL DIDN'T GIVE UP,

00:28:59.333 --> 00:29:02.433
AND OVER TIME, YOUR
FAMILY GOT SAVED,

00:29:02.533 --> 00:29:04.300
AND THEN YOUR
FAMILY GOT SAVED.

00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:05.266
KATHARINE: YES, YES.


00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:06.900
REBECCA: AND YOUR
PARENTS CAME TO THE LORD.

00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:07.967
KATHARINE: OH, THAT'S --


00:29:08.067 --> 00:29:09.333
REBECCA: AND HAD
A REAL CHANGE, TOO.

00:29:09.433 --> 00:29:10.066
KATHARINE: ABSOLUTELY.


00:29:10.166 --> 00:29:10.967
A MIRACLE.


00:29:11.067 --> 00:29:12.633
LIKE I SAID, WE WERE
RAISED CATHOLIC,

00:29:12.733 --> 00:29:14.067
SO WE HAD AN
AWARENESS OF GOD.

00:29:14.167 --> 00:29:18.167
BUT GOD WASN'T IN OUR DAILY
LIVING AND WHAT WE DID EVERY DAY

00:29:18.267 --> 00:29:19.599
OR IF
THE FOCUS OF OUR LIFE.

00:29:19.699 --> 00:29:22.133
IT WAS MORE ACHIEVEMENT,
MONEY, SUCCESS.

00:29:22.233 --> 00:29:26.533
BUT ACTUALLY, IT WAS WHEN
YOU, WHEN YOU, JONATHAN,

00:29:26.633 --> 00:29:30.466
WHEN YOU ASKED
REBECCA TO MARRY YOU.

00:29:30.566 --> 00:29:31.533
YOU WERE IN JERUSALEM.


00:29:31.633 --> 00:29:32.599
JONATHAN: I WAS.


00:29:32.699 --> 00:29:34.133
KATHARINE: -- MY MOM AND
MY DAD AND MYLES AND I

00:29:34.233 --> 00:29:36.199
WERE ON A LITTLE
MINI-VACATION IN HAWAII.

00:29:36.299 --> 00:29:37.599
JONATHAN: OH, THAT'S RIGHT,
I REMEMBER THIS.

00:29:37.699 --> 00:29:38.500
REBECCA: THEY
WERE WATCHING US.

00:29:38.600 --> 00:29:39.366
MYLES: EVERY DAY --


00:29:39.466 --> 00:29:40.533
JONATHAN: YOU AND
YOUR DAD AND MOM.

00:29:40.633 --> 00:29:41.633
MYLES:
EVERY DAY AT 3:00,

00:29:41.733 --> 00:29:43.733
WE'D LEAVE THE BEACH AND
GO UP TO WATCH DAYSTAR.

00:29:43.833 --> 00:29:44.600
KATHARINE: HAWAII
DIDN'T EXIST,

00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:47.200
ONLY THAT EXISTED
WAS YOU TWO,

00:29:47.300 --> 00:29:49.500
AND THEY WERE ALL IN
BECAUSE WE WERE JUST,

00:29:49.600 --> 00:29:52.533
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MY
FAMILY LOVES BOTH OF YOU.

00:29:52.633 --> 00:29:55.133
MY DAD AND MY MOM
LOVE BOTH OF YOU.

00:29:55.233 --> 00:29:56.533
AND SO WE WOULD WATCH.


00:29:56.633 --> 00:29:59.033
AND THEN JIMMY EVANS,
GOD BLESS HIM, SAID,

00:29:59.133 --> 00:30:00.933
WE KNOW WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE,

00:30:01.033 --> 00:30:02.833
AFTER HE'S PREACHED
ON THE END TIMES,

00:30:02.933 --> 00:30:05.167
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
ALL RIGHT WITH GOD.

00:30:05.267 --> 00:30:08.600
AND SO I SAID, WE'RE ALL
SITTING LIKE IN LIKE A LITTLE,

00:30:08.700 --> 00:30:09.733
AND
WE'RE WATCHING,

00:30:09.833 --> 00:30:11.833
I THINK WE'RE WATCHING --
NO, THE TV OR COMPUTER.

00:30:11.933 --> 00:30:13.833
I SAID, OH, WE NEED TO
ALL STAND RIGHT NOW

00:30:13.933 --> 00:30:15.133
AND SAY
THE SINNER'S PRAYER.

00:30:15.233 --> 00:30:16.599
AND SO WE ALL STOOD,
GRABBED HANDS,

00:30:16.699 --> 00:30:18.499
AND WE ALL REPEATED
AFTER JIMMY.

00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.967
AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW
THAT MY PARENTS, MY DAD,

00:30:22.067 --> 00:30:24.999
HAD SAID THAT
SINNER'S SURRENDER.

00:30:25.099 --> 00:30:26.233
AND SAID
THE SINNER'S PRAYER.

00:30:26.333 --> 00:30:28.166
JONATHAN: WELL, AND WE
EVEN SAW HEART CHANGE IN HIM.

00:30:28.266 --> 00:30:30.566
AFTER THAT MOMENT, THE
REST OF HIS LIFE, WHICH --

00:30:30.666 --> 00:30:32.000
KATHARINE: EVEN
AT YOUR WEDDING,

00:30:32.100 --> 00:30:33.166
HE GAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL --


00:30:33.266 --> 00:30:34.533
JONATHAN:
EXACTLY, OH, YEAH.

00:30:34.633 --> 00:30:35.599
KATHERINE: -- TOAST.


00:30:35.699 --> 00:30:36.466
JONATHAN: WE HAVE THAT
SPEECH, AND I LOVE THAT.

00:30:36.566 --> 00:30:37.433
I WANT TO GO BACK
AND WATCH IT.

00:30:37.533 --> 00:30:38.233
KATHARINE: YEAH.


00:30:38.333 --> 00:30:39.600
REBECCA: AND
EVEN WHEN HE WAS,

00:30:39.700 --> 00:30:41.533
KNOWING THAT HE WAS ABOUT TO BE
MAKING HIS WAY TO HEAVEN SOON,

00:30:41.633 --> 00:30:42.833
HE EVEN
TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

00:30:42.933 --> 00:30:43.866
BOTH: YEAH.


00:30:43.966 --> 00:30:46.299
MYLES: WE HAD A CHANCE
TO CONFIRM WITH HIM

00:30:46.399 --> 00:30:47.933
AT THE
VERY LAST FEW DAYS.

00:30:48.033 --> 00:30:49.666
HE SAID, I DON'T
FEEL GOOD ENOUGH,

00:30:49.766 --> 00:30:52.633
AND I WAS ABLE TO SAY,
NOW NONE OF US ARE.

00:30:52.733 --> 00:30:54.300
IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT.


00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.367
BUT WHEN YOU SEE
HIM, YOU'LL KNOW.

00:30:56.467 --> 00:31:00.500
AND IT WAS LIKE, IT WAS LIKE
THE NEXT DAY I THINK HE WENT.

00:31:00.600 --> 00:31:01.866
REBECCA: THIS BEAUTIFUL
STORY WHERE

00:31:01.966 --> 00:31:03.433
TWO PEOPLE FROM VERY
DIFFERENT WORLDS,

00:31:03.533 --> 00:31:04.966
HOW GOD BROUGHT THE
TWO OF YOU TOGETHER,

00:31:05.066 --> 00:31:09.733
AND THEN USED YOU GUYS TO
BRING SALVATION TO YOUR FAMILIES

00:31:09.833 --> 00:31:11.567
AND BRING THEM
INTO THE FAMILY OF GOD.

00:31:11.667 --> 00:31:12.833
KATHARINE: AMEN.


00:31:12.933 --> 00:31:14.333
REBECCA: AND GOD'S USED YOU
TO ALSO MINISTER TO FAMILIES

00:31:14.433 --> 00:31:16.266
ALL AROUND THE WORLD,


00:31:16.366 --> 00:31:18.600
AND YOU'RE HELPING
TEACH PEOPLE.

00:31:18.700 --> 00:31:21.166
TO THIS DAY, YOU'RE
STRENGTHENING MARRIAGES.

00:31:21.266 --> 00:31:22.499
IT'S SOMETHING THAT
Y'ALL ARE REALLY,

00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.133
REALLY GREAT AT, BUT
YOU'RE ALSO TEACHING BELIEVERS,

00:31:25.233 --> 00:31:26.199
JEW AND GENTILE,


00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:29.566
ABOUT THE ONE NEW MAN,
AND HOW TO DO IT IN A,

00:31:29.666 --> 00:31:31.167
WHAT'S THE BEST
WORD TO DESCRIBE IT?

00:31:31.267 --> 00:31:32.966
I THINK IN A BIBLICAL WAY.


00:31:33.066 --> 00:31:37.599
NOT MAKING IT WEIRD, NOT
MAKING IT RELIGIOUS.

00:31:37.699 --> 00:31:42.166
BUT A REAL AUTHENTIC
PRESENCE-DRIVEN WORD-BASED WAY.

00:31:42.266 --> 00:31:42.799
KATHARINE: RIGHT.


00:31:42.899 --> 00:31:44.033
MYLES: YEAH.


00:31:44.133 --> 00:31:46.900
AND PART OF OUR MANDATE
HAS BEEN TO ALWAYS DO WHAT WE DO

00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.966
IN CONNECTION
WITH THE CHURCH.

00:31:50.066 --> 00:31:52.999
I INTERVIEWED GREG STONE
FROM GATEWAY A FEW WEEKS AGO,

00:31:53.099 --> 00:31:54.499
AND WE WERE THE
SAME IN THAT WAY,

00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.466
THAT HE'S ALWAYS FELT LIKE
THE MESSIANIC WORK THAT HE DOES

00:31:57.566 --> 00:31:59.966
NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED
TO THE CHURCH AT LARGE

00:32:00.066 --> 00:32:02.133
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE
CHURCH NEEDS SOMETHING

00:32:02.233 --> 00:32:04.099
THAT WE CARRY, THAT THE
JEWISH PEOPLE CARRY,

00:32:04.199 --> 00:32:05.800
BUT WE NEED THE
POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:07.166
THAT THE CHURCH CARRIES.


00:32:07.266 --> 00:32:10.733
SO IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE IN THE
LIVING TIME OF THE ONE NEW MAN,

00:32:10.833 --> 00:32:12.399
AND I
THINK THAT'S, ACTUALLY,

00:32:12.499 --> 00:32:15.500
I REALLY THINK THAT THE
HOPE FOR AMERICA RIGHT NOW,

00:32:15.600 --> 00:32:17.800
IT COMES OUT OF
THIS TRAGEDY IN ISRAEL,

00:32:17.900 --> 00:32:20.500
THE HOPE FOR AMERICA
RIGHT NOW IS TO UNDERSTAND

00:32:20.600 --> 00:32:22.033
THE JEWISH ROOTS
OF THE FAITH.

00:32:22.133 --> 00:32:24.833
BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD
ABOUT UNDERSTANDING LIFE

00:32:24.933 --> 00:32:27.400
AND MARRIAGE,
PRO-LIFE, PRO-MARRIAGE,

00:32:27.500 --> 00:32:29.299
BUT GOD'S ALSO PRO-ISRAEL.


00:32:29.399 --> 00:32:30.900
AND WHAT IF THAT'S
THE MISSING KEY?

00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.233
THIS IS WHAT GOD'S BEEN SPEAKING
TO ME SINCE OCTOBER 7TH.

00:32:33.333 --> 00:32:35.700
WHAT IF THE MISSING KEY
TO THE REVIVAL AMERICA

00:32:35.800 --> 00:32:38.866
IS PRAYING FOR AND THE RETURN OF
THE BLESSING ON AMERICA,

00:32:38.966 --> 00:32:41.466
WHAT IF IT'S THAT
MISSING PART OF BLESSING

00:32:41.566 --> 00:32:42.833
THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM?


00:32:42.933 --> 00:32:44.599
WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT
EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR

00:32:44.699 --> 00:32:46.766
AND THEY DON'T REALIZE
THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED?

00:32:46.866 --> 00:32:49.599
JONATHAN: GOD SHOWED ME THAT
WHEN I GOT SAVED IN BETHEL.

00:32:49.699 --> 00:32:52.399
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS -- I
STARTED JOURNALING FEROCIOUSLY.

00:32:52.499 --> 00:32:55.899
REMEMBER WE FOUND THOSE
JOURNALS OR WHATEVER.

00:32:55.999 --> 00:32:58.400
BUT I REMEMBER BACK THEN,
BECAUSE I WAS JUST READING

00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.767
THE WORD SO CONSISTENTLY.


00:33:00.867 --> 00:33:03.366
I REMEMBER READING HOW
END TIME REVIVAL WOULD BE

00:33:03.466 --> 00:33:06.100
WHEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE WOULD
RECEIVE THEIR MESSIAH.

00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.767
AND SO I KNOW THAT THE
SAME GOES FOR THE CHURCH,

00:33:08.867 --> 00:33:12.033
THAT ONCE THE CHURCH
ACCEPTS THE JEWISH PEOPLE

00:33:12.133 --> 00:33:15.166
AND UNDERSTANDING
OF THEIR SIGNIFICANCE

00:33:15.266 --> 00:33:18.900
OR THEIR PART OF GOD'S STORY,
IT'S GOING TO BRING ABOUT

00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:20.499
ENDTIME REVIVAL.


00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:21.900
MYLES: YEAH.


00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.100
THE WAY THAT GOD'S BEEN SHOWING
IT TO ME, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:25.733
THE WAY THAT GOD'S BEEN
SHOWING IT TO ME IS THAT

00:33:25.833 --> 00:33:28.733
CHRISTIANS HAD
A REFORMATION.

00:33:28.800 --> 00:33:31.000
WE'VE HAD AWAKENINGS
AND REVIVALS.

00:33:31.100 --> 00:33:32.966
BUT THERE'S A
RESTORATION COMING.

00:33:33.066 --> 00:33:34.033
KATHARINE:
THAT'S RIGHT.

00:33:34.133 --> 00:33:36.199
MYLES: AND ONE OF THE
KEYS TO RESTORATION IS

00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:39.033
THE LOVE OF THE BELIEVERS
BEING GIVEN

00:33:39.133 --> 00:33:41.133
TO THE
CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM.

00:33:41.233 --> 00:33:43.733
REBECCA: FOR THOSE
PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING

00:33:43.833 --> 00:33:46.166
OR WATCHING THIS AND
THEY'RE HAVING --

00:33:46.266 --> 00:33:48.733
THEY'RE FEELING THAT STIRRING
WITHIN THEM THAT THEY WANT THIS

00:33:48.833 --> 00:33:50.867
BUT THEY DON'T KNOW
EXACTLY HOW TO GO ABOUT IT,

00:33:50.967 --> 00:33:52.899
WHAT WOULD YOUR
ADVICE BE TO THEM?

00:33:52.999 --> 00:33:53.999
MYLES: WELL,
WATCH DAYSTAR.

00:33:54.099 --> 00:33:54.733
[ LAUGHING ]


00:33:54.833 --> 00:33:55.866
MYLES: PRAY.


00:33:55.966 --> 00:33:58.400
NO, I DON'T MEAN TO BE
SUPERCILIOUS ABOUT IT

00:33:58.500 --> 00:34:02.666
OR FRIVOLOUS, BUT DAYSTAR
HAS BEEN A REAL BEACON

00:34:02.766 --> 00:34:06.733
OF KEEPING THAT LIGHT GOING
FROM THE CHRISTIANS

00:34:06.833 --> 00:34:09.066
TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.


00:34:09.166 --> 00:34:10.933
AND I THINK THAT THEY CAN
GET IN TOUCH WITH US,

00:34:11.033 --> 00:34:13.066
THEY CAN LOOK AT ANY
OF THE MAIN RESOURCES,

00:34:13.166 --> 00:34:15.066
SO MANY RESOURCES
AVAILABLE NOW

00:34:15.166 --> 00:34:17.800
THAT WHERE THE
UNDERSTANDING IS GROWING.

00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:19.333
BUT THERE'S STILL
MANY DENOMINATIONS

00:34:19.433 --> 00:34:22.667
THAT ARE COMPLETELY IN
THE DARK OR ANTI-ISRAEL.

00:34:22.767 --> 00:34:24.799
AND SO THERE'S STILL
A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.

00:34:24.899 --> 00:34:25.766
KATHARINE: I
WOULD SAY SPEAK UP.

00:34:25.866 --> 00:34:27.067
I WOULD SAY PRAY.


00:34:27.167 --> 00:34:31.499
I WOULD SAY BE A VOICE FOR
THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES

00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:33.433
THAT THIS NATION
WAS BUILT ON

00:34:33.533 --> 00:34:37.767
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE HAD
REVIVAL FROM, IS FROM THAT ROOT,

00:34:37.867 --> 00:34:40.700
AND THAT GOD WANTS TO
RESTORE IT SO THAT THERE CAN BE

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.933
EVEN MORE FOR
THE NEXT GENERATION.

00:34:43.033 --> 00:34:44.666
AND I HAVE HOPE FOR THAT.


00:34:44.766 --> 00:34:45.900
I REALLY DO.


00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.099
EVEN THOUGH ALL THIS --
THERE'S MANY VOICES OUT THERE,

00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:51.899
BUT I HAVE HOPE THAT
PEOPLE ARE HEARING THE TRUTH,

00:34:51.999 --> 00:34:56.966
AND I BELIEVE GOD'S WORD
OVER EVERY OTHER WORD.

00:34:57.066 --> 00:34:58.600
AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO BE IN THE LAND,

00:34:58.700 --> 00:35:00.167
THEY'RE GOING TO
CALL OUT TO THEIR MESSIAH,

00:35:00.267 --> 00:35:02.833
WE'RE GOING TO SEE
THE REVIVAL COME,

00:35:02.933 --> 00:35:04.433
AND WE'RE GOING TO
SEE THE RESTORATION

00:35:04.533 --> 00:35:06.066
THAT HE IS
LONGING FOR.

00:35:06.166 --> 00:35:09.833
THAT WORD HAS BEEN IN
MY HEART ALL DAY TODAY,

00:35:09.933 --> 00:35:12.199
IS RESTORATION, AND
THAT'S WHAT GOD IS DOING.

00:35:12.299 --> 00:35:14.566
HE'S RESTORING LIVES,
HE'S RESTORING ISRAEL,

00:35:14.666 --> 00:35:16.400
AND HE'S
RESTORING MARRIAGES,

00:35:16.500 --> 00:35:20.300
HE'S RESTORING THE
PEOPLE BACK TO THE BOOK.

00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.899
REBECCA: AND FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT
TO GET THAT DOWNLOAD FROM GOD,

00:35:23.999 --> 00:35:25.000
HOW DO
THEY GET THAT?

00:35:25.100 --> 00:35:27.433
MYLES: I WOULD FOLLOW
KATHARINE'S ADVICE,

00:35:27.533 --> 00:35:29.733
WHICH SHE CHALLENGED ME
WITH GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING

00:35:29.833 --> 00:35:31.067
OF THIS PODCAST.


00:35:31.167 --> 00:35:32.567
YOU ASK HEAVEN.


00:35:33.466 --> 00:35:34.666
YOU ASK HEAVEN.


00:35:34.766 --> 00:35:36.566
IT'S REALLY LIKE THAT
GETTING SAVED, TOO.

00:35:36.666 --> 00:35:39.199
ASK LIKE I DID,
GOD, IF SHE'S RIGHT

00:35:39.299 --> 00:35:42.800
AND YOU'RE WHO SHE SAYS YOU ARE,
YOU'VE GOT TO SEND ME GUIDANCE.

00:35:42.900 --> 00:35:45.333
WELL, SAME THING
WITH THIS REVELATION

00:35:45.433 --> 00:35:46.400
OF THE
IMPORTANCE OF ISRAEL.

00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:48.600
IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE
HONEST ABOUT THAT

00:35:48.700 --> 00:35:50.666
AND THEY'RE IN THE DARK
OR THEY MAY HAVE ANTISEMITISM

00:35:50.766 --> 00:35:52.633
IN THEIR BACKGROUND,
A LOT OF US HAVE THAT,

00:35:52.733 --> 00:35:55.533
THEY CAN SAY, GOD,
IF SHE'S RIGHT

00:35:55.633 --> 00:35:58.666
AND YOU'RE WHO THEY SAY YOU ARE,
YOU ARE THE GOD OF ABRAHAM,

00:35:58.766 --> 00:36:02.200
ISAAC, AND JACOB, WHO IS ISRAEL,
AND THAT YOU WANT ME TO

00:36:02.300 --> 00:36:03.633
UNDERSTAND THIS REVELATION,


00:36:03.733 --> 00:36:06.533
PLEASE SEND ME
GUIDANCE, AND HE WILL.

00:36:06.633 --> 00:36:08.399
IT'S AN HONEST PLEA.


00:36:08.499 --> 00:36:11.033
REBECCA: ANYTHING ELSE THAT
YOU WANT TO SAY, LAST WORDS?

00:36:11.133 --> 00:36:12.166
MYLES: WE LOVE YOU.


00:36:12.266 --> 00:36:12.933
KATHARINE: I WAS JUST
GOING TO SAY, WE LOVE YOU.

00:36:13.033 --> 00:36:13.833
REBECCA: AW.


00:36:13.933 --> 00:36:14.533
JONATHAN: WE LOVE YOU.


00:36:14.633 --> 00:36:15.333
REBECCA: WE LOVE YOU.


00:36:15.433 --> 00:36:16.400
[ LAUGHING ]


00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:17.967
KATHARINE: AND WE'RE
REALLY PROUD OF YOU BOTH.

00:36:18.067 --> 00:36:22.300
AND WE JUST WANT TO BLESS
YOU HOWEVER WE CAN,

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:26.967
STRENGTHEN YOUR HANDS
AND STRENGTHEN YOUR LIVES

00:36:27.067 --> 00:36:31.099
FOR THE JOURNEY AHEAD, BECAUSE
I BELIEVE IT'S THE GENERATIONS,

00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.533
AND WE WANT TO BE THERE
FOR THE LITTLE ARROWS

00:36:34.633 --> 00:36:36.400
THAT GOD IS
BRINGING INTO YOUR LIFE,

00:36:36.500 --> 00:36:37.866
AND ASHER AND BOAZ.


00:36:37.966 --> 00:36:39.067
MYLES: YES.


00:36:39.167 --> 00:36:41.933
IT'S L'DOR V'DOR' IN HEBREW,
GENERATION TO GENERATION.

00:36:42.033 --> 00:36:45.933
AND WE OBVIOUSLY, WE BELIEVE
THAT YOU WILL GO MUCH FURTHER

00:36:46.033 --> 00:36:47.766
THAN WE
COULD EVER HAVE GONE,

00:36:47.866 --> 00:36:49.166
AND THAT THE
KIDS, YOUR KIDS,

00:36:49.266 --> 00:36:50.367
WILL GO EVEN
FURTHER THAN THAT.

00:36:50.467 --> 00:36:51.066
KATHARINE: AMEN.


00:36:51.166 --> 00:36:51.900
MYLES: IN THE KINGDOM.


00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:53.966
REBECCA: WELL,
WE HONOR YOU TWO,

00:36:54.066 --> 00:36:56.233
AND THANK YOU FOR
SHARING YOUR STORY,

00:36:56.333 --> 00:36:59.966
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR
HEART WITH OUR AUDIENCE TODAY.

00:37:00.066 --> 00:37:00.867
COME BACK.


00:37:00.967 --> 00:37:01.933
KATHARINE:
AW, WE'D LOVE TO.

00:37:02.033 --> 00:37:03.266
JONATHAN: COME BACK
AND VISIT US AGAIN.

00:37:03.366 --> 00:37:06.100
REBECCA: WELL, WE HAVE SO MUCH
MORE ABOUT YOU TO TALK ABOUT.

00:37:06.200 --> 00:37:07.266
KATHARINE: ALREADY
PUTTING ON THE CALENDAR

00:37:07.366 --> 00:37:08.333
FOR THE NEXT TIME,
FOR SURE.

00:37:08.433 --> 00:37:09.166
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:37:09.266 --> 00:37:10.199
AND JUST,
WE HONOR YOU GUYS.

00:37:10.299 --> 00:37:11.366
WE LOVE YOU GUYS.


00:37:11.466 --> 00:37:13.166
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.

00:37:13.266 --> 00:37:14.066
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.


00:37:14.166 --> 00:37:15.300
MYLES: THANK YOU.


00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.599
REBECCA: AND FOR PEOPLE
WHO WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU,

00:37:17.699 --> 00:37:18.733
WHERE DO THEY GO?


00:37:18.833 --> 00:37:20.200
MYLES: I WAS
CHECKING THIS MORNING.

00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:21.466
JONATHAN: AT MKHOP.ORG.


00:37:21.566 --> 00:37:25.367
MYLES: MKHOP, M-K-H-O-P,
HOUSE OF PEACE, MKHOP.ORG.

00:37:25.467 --> 00:37:26.933
OR JUST PUT IN MYLES
AND KATHARINE WEISS.

00:37:27.033 --> 00:37:27.766
KATHARINE: MK,
MYLES AND KATHARINE.

00:37:27.866 --> 00:37:28.533
MYLES: YES.


00:37:28.633 --> 00:37:29.166
KATHARINE:
HOUSE OF PEACE.

00:37:29.266 --> 00:37:30.300
MYLES: YEAH.


00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.000
REBECCA: AND IF SOMEONE
WANTS TO GO TO BEIT ABBA,

00:37:32.100 --> 00:37:32.900
HOW DO THEY DO THAT?


00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:34.533
MYLES: TFH.ORG.


00:37:34.633 --> 00:37:35.433
BEIT ABBA.


00:37:35.533 --> 00:37:37.133
BUT IT'S BASICALLY --


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KATHARINE: WE HAVE OUR
ONCE-A-MONTH SERVICE.

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MYLES: YEAH, WE HAVE
A SERVICE WITH THE BIG CHURCH.

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JONATHAN: BUT THEY ALSO
DO STUFF ONLINE ALL THE TIME,

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WHICH IS
WE DO, YEAH.

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MYLES: MOSTLY OUR
WEBSITE, MKHOP.ORG.

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IT CONNECTS TO THE
PODCAST, TO THE SERVICES,

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TO THE BOOK, TO
ALL THE TEACHINGS.

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KATHARINE: WELL,
LIKE JONATHAN SAID,

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WE LIKE TO DO LIVE,
AS MUCH AS WE CAN,

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FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS.


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JONATHAN: DO IT LIVE.


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[ LAUGHING ]


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REBECCA: WELL,
YOU HEARD IT HERE.

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THANK YOU, GUYS,
FOR BEING HERE.

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THANK YOU, JONATHAN.


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AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO
<i>THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST</i> .