REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HEY, GUYS.
WELCOME BACK TO THEREBECCA WEISS PODCAST .
I'M VERY EXCITED TODAY.
WE ARE IN A NEW FORMAT BECAUSE I AM JOINED HERE WITH MANY GUESTS.
I AM WITH MY FAMILY TODAY.
ALL: YAY!
HELLO.
REBECCA: THE WEISS FAMILY.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW, GUYS.
KATHARINE WEISS: THANK YOU.
IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE.
MYLES WEISS: I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE.
REBECCA: WELL, FAMILY, I THINK EVERYONE IS CRAVING FAMILY,
AND PEOPLE WANT TO SEE MORE OF FAMILY,
AND WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY
BECAUSE WE'RE ALL DOING LIFE WITH OUR FAMILY.
AND SO I THINK YOU GUYS CAN SHARE SOME MUCH-NEEDED WISDOM.
AND YOU GUYS ARE LIKE MENTORS TO ME AND JONATHAN.
BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE CONVERSATION,
I DO NEED TO INTRODUCE WHO ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE.
JONATHAN WEISS: WHO IS SITTING NEXT TO YOU ON THE COUCH.
REBECCA: SO NEXT TO ME ON THE COUCH,
I HAVE MY VERY HANDSOME HUSBAND.
JONATHAN: HELLO, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
REBECCA: AND GREAT HUSBAND, GREAT FATHER, GREAT LEADER.
ALSO WORKS WITH DAYSTAR.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT JONATHAN WEISS.
KATHARINE: AMEN.
JONATHAN: GOOD TO BE HERE.
REBECCA: AND THEN I HAVE MY FATHER AND MOTHER-IN-LOVE,
BECAUSE IT'S NOT BY LAW, IT'S LOVE.
KATHARINE: YES.
REBECCA: I HAVE MYLES WEISS.
MYLES: GLAD TO BE HERE.
REBECCA: AND TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.
MYLES: OH, MY GOSH.
YOU SHOULD INTRODUCE HER BECAUSE MINE'S A LONG STORY.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: A LOT OF YEARS IN IT.
SO KATHARINE AND I HAVE BEEN WITH THE LORD WITH EACH OTHER,
MARRIED FOR 37 YEARS.
REBECCA: WHICH IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN AND OF ITSELF.
MYLES: THAT'S BECAUSE SHE'S FULL OF MERCY AND GRACE.
[ LAUGHING ]
JONATHAN: EVERY YEAR IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT.
REBECCA: IT REALLY IS.
MYLES: AND WE HAVE A PRETTY INTERESTING HISTORY
OF COMING TO THE LORD AND FINDING EACH OTHER.
AND THEN I HAVE THIS HISTORY OF THE JEWISH BACKGROUND
OF OUR FAMILY AND SEEING THE LEGACY
THAT GOD HAS BEEN RELEASING.
AND SO AS WE GO FORWARD, I'LL TALK ABOUT IT,
BUT SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF, TOOTS.
REBECCA: THIS IS KATHARINE WEISS,
YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE, MY BEAUTIFUL MOTHER-IN-LOVE.
KATHARINE: WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON, REBECCA.
IT'S SUCH A JOY TO BE PART OF THIS PODCAST
AND TO SHARE THIS NEW CHAPTER FOR YOU TOO.
IT'S A JOY FOR US TO BE HERE.
REBECCA: WELL, AND THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO
HAVE YOU GUYS ON IS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LOVE THIS FORMAT
EVEN MORE THAN ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWING,
BUT WE HAD MYLES AND JONATHAN ON,
AND THE PEOPLE WERE LIKE, GIVE US MORE,
AND I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, YOU ASKED,
YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHAT YOU WANT, AUDIENCE.
AND I HAD TO ADD YOU INTO THE MIX --
KATHARINE: I APPRECIATE IT.
REBECCA: -- BECAUSE YOU HAVE SO MANY GREAT THINGS TO SHARE.
BUT ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS I WANT TO DO IS
I WANT TO CLEAR UP THE QUESTIONS.
BECAUSE MY MOTHER JUST GOT REMARRIED,
AND SHE MARRIED A MAN WITH THE SAME LAST NAME.
JONATHAN: WILD, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A COMMON LAST NAME.
KATHARINE: NO.
REBECCA: NO.
IT IS VERY WILD.
SO JONATHAN, PLEASE CLEAR THE AIR.
IS DOUG WEISS YOUR FATHER?
JONATHAN: HE'S NOT MY FATHER.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: CAN YOU POINT TO THE MAN WHO IS ACTUALLY --
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: I'M RELIEVED.
JONATHAN: MY DAD'S HERE, YEAH.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: THIS IS YOUR FATHER.
MYLES: YES, I AM THE OG WEISS.
REBECCA: YOU ARE THE OG WEISS.
SO, MYLES, TELL US SOME OF YOUR FAMILY HISTORY
OF WHO THE WEISS FAMILY IS.
YOUR WEISS FAMILY.
JONATHAN: WHO ARE WE.
MYLES: THIS IS A LONG STORY,
I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
BUT MY GRANDPARENTS CAME OVER FROM EUROPE TO THE OLD COUNTRY
I CALL, WHICH IS NEW YORK CITY.
JONATHAN: WAIT, WHICH PART OF EUROPE?
MYLES: I'M GOING TO SAY.
JONATHAN: OH, OKAY.
[ LAUGHING ]
JONATHAN: SORRY, I'M SO EXCITED.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: MY GRANDPARENTS CAME OVER AT THE END
OF THE 19TH CENTURY, LATE 1800S.
MY DAD AND MOM WERE BORN IN NEW YORK CITY
DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR.
I WAS BORN AFTER WORLD WAR II.
THEY CAME FROM HUNGARY; VIENNA, AUSTRIA;
AND POLAND; AND RUSSIA.
SO WE HAVE THIS ASHKENAZI BACKGROUND OF A MIXED GROUP
FROM WHAT WAS CALLED RUSSIA-POLAND AT THE TIME
BECAUSE WE WERE ALWAYS BEING CHASED BY SOMEONE,
AND SO THE BORDERS WERE ALWAYS SHIFTING FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
AND THEY -- MY PARENTS GREW UP IN LOWER MANHATTAN.
MY DAD WAS FROM A VERY POOR FAMILY.
HIS DAD SOLD VEGETABLES ON A PUSHCART IN THE CITY.
JONATHAN: WOW.
MYLES: MOM'S FAMILY WAS MORE SUCCESSFUL.
MY GRANDFATHER ON THAT SIDE, WHO DIED VERY YOUNG,
HAD A LITTLE UMBRELLA STORE IN MANHATTAN.
AND THEN AFTER WORLD WAR II,
MY UNCLE AND MY DAD REALIZED IF THERE WAS A SURPLUS OF ALUMINUM
FROM WORLD WAR II
AND THEY INVENTED THE ALUMINUM UMBRELLA POLES FOR BACK YARD
AND FOR BEACH AND PATIO UMBRELLAS.
THEY ALSO INVENTED WHAT THEY CALLED THE CRANK AND TILT,
WHICH IS WHERE YOU CRANK THE THING AND IT TILTS OVER
SO YOU CAN FACE IT TO THE SUN.
KATHARINE: IN THE '50S.
MYLES: IN THE '50S, AFTER WORLD WAR II.
SO THEY HAD THE SECOND LARGEST BEACH UMBRELLA FACTORY
IN THE WORLD.
SO I GREW UP, MACON, NAMED AFTER THE GRANDFATHER, MAX COHEN,
MACON.
REBECCA: OH, NICE.
BOTH: YEAH.
JONATHAN: AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PHOTO OF THE PATENT DRAWINGS,
SO WE'LL SHOW THAT, TOO.
REBECCA: YEAH.
THAT'S IN YOUR OFFICE, RIGHT?
BOTH: IT IS.
REBECCA: I SAW IT LAST TIME.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY BIG DEAL.
AND SO YOUR DAD WENT FROM BEING RAISED POOR
TO COMING INTO A LOT OF MONEY.
MYLES: YEAH.
WELL, WHEN MY DAD MARRIED MY MOM, MY UNCLE AL,
AND MY DAD BUILT THIS THING FROM A LITTLE STOREFRONT
INTO THIS BIG CONCERN.
AND SO IT'S REALLY AN AMERICAN STORY.
JEWS COMING HERE WITH NOTHING.
AND AMERICA, BEING THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY
IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK HARD,
THEY REALLY BUILT SOMETHING THAT WAS QUITE PROFITABLE.
AND SO I GREW UP MIDDLE CLASS.
KATHARINE: I LOVE HOW YOUR PARENTS OR YOUR GRANDPARENTS
USED TO WASH THE FRONT STOOP.
MYLES: MY DAD'S PARENTS LIVED IN A TENEMENT IN LOWER MANHATTAN,
AND THEY WERE SO GRATEFUL TO BE OUT OF EUROPE
AND AWAY FROM THE RUSSIAN POGROMS,
AWAY FROM THE PERSECUTION OF THE JEWS, MY GRANDMA,
I'D COME, WE'D GO TO VISIT THEM IN LOWER MANHATTAN
FROM OUT IN THE 'BURBS.
AND SHE WOULD BE WASHING THE SIDEWALK AND WASHING THE STOOP.
WE SAY THE STEPS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF GRATITUDE.
THEY WERE SO CAREFUL TO BE GRATEFUL TO AMERICA,
THEY MADE SURE THAT THE KIDS GREW UP SPEAKING ENGLISH,
THEY MADE SURE -- THEY ALL SPOKE YIDDISH,
BUT THEY MADE SURE THAT WE SPOKE ENGLISH,
THEY MADE SURE THAT WE WERE EDUCATED,
AND THEY JUST HAD THIS SENSE OF GRATITUDE.
IT'S A LOST ART IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY.
KATHARINE: BUT YOU ALSO NEVER LOST YOUR JEWISH IDENTITY
WHERE SOME JEWS MAY FORGET ABOUT
OR THEY DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER BECAUSE OF THE HOLOCAUST, RIGHT?
MYLES: YEAH.
I GREW UP WITH PEOPLE WHO HAD THE TATTOO ON THEIR ARMS,
SURVIVORS OF THE HOLOCAUST.
AND SO IT WAS VERY PRESENT.
IT WAS VERY PRESENT, THE REALITY OF WHAT HAD JUST HAPPENED.
SO THERE WAS THIS AWAKENING OF THE DREAM THAT AMERICA IS,
AND I BELIEVE IT STILL IS.
REBECCA: SO EVEN THOUGH YOUR PARENTS,
THEY CAME OVER, THEY IMMIGRATED BEFORE WORLD WAR II,
THERE WERE FLEEING PERSECUTION IN RUSSIA.
MYLES: YES, YEAH.
REBECCA: CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE?
MYLES: SURE.
THE POGROMS.
THE CHURCH IS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN WHAT'S WRONG WITH THESE JEWS
THAT THEY CAN'T ACCEPT JESUS.
WELL, THE CRUSADES, THE INQUISITION,
THE POGRAMS AND THE HOLOCAUST HAVE SOURED US
ON WHAT CHRISTIANS MIGHT BE.
THANK GOD WE'RE LIVING IN THIS DAY
WHERE EVERYTHING IS COMING OUT.
THE FACT IS THAT THE GREATEST FRIENDS IN THE WORLD
TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE THE CHRISTIANS,
BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS.
BUT A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOUT-OUT.
DAYSTAR HAS BEEN, IT'S GOING TO MAKE ME CRY, DAYSTAR HAS BEEN...
KATHARINE: A BEACON.
MYLES: THANK YOU.
KATHARINE: YEAH, A BEACON.
REBECCA: YOU TWO ARE SO GOOD TOGETHER.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: I LOVE HAVING Y'ALL TOGETHER.
MYLES: YEAH, YEAH.
REBECCA: SEE, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING MINISTRY,
YOU'VE BEEN, HOW MANY YEARS HAVE Y'ALL BEEN
DOING MINISTRY TOGETHER?
MYLES: MY WHOLE LIFE, SO HELP ME GOD.
KATHARINE: YES.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: YOU'RE 34, SO A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT.
KATHARINE: OUR FIRST DATE I HAD TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT
BECAUSE MYLES WAS JEWISH OR IS JEWISH.
AND SO ON OUR FIRST DATE, I HAD TO LET HIM --
REBECCA: DID YOU KNOW HE WAS JEWISH ON YOUR FIRST DATE?
KATHARINE: NO.
AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A BIG DEAL THAT WAS.
I JUST KNEW I LIKED HIM.
REBECCA: AND YOU WERE LIKE ON FIRE FOR GOD.
KATHARINE: I HAD JUST RECEIVED THE LORD.
AND SO ON OUR FIRST DATE, I SAID,
I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
JESUS HAS BECOME VERY REAL TO ME AND VERY PERSONAL.
JONATHAN: NO, YOU SAID, I LIKE YOU,
BUT I'M IN LOVE WITH ANOTHER.
KATHARINE: AND THAT'S THE SECOND LINE I SAID.
SOMETHING JUST, YEAH.
AND ANYWAY, I SAID, THIS PATH THAT I'M ON,
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ME,
I'M GOING SOMEWHERE WITH GOD,
AND JESUS IS THE ONE THAT'S LEADING THIS JOURNEY.
AND I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC,
BUT I NEVER HAD A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.
SO AFTER I RECEIVED HIM, I HAD A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
SO ON OUR FIRST DATE, I SAID,
YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THIS MAN, JESUS.
AND HE SAID, I CAN'T DO THAT, I'M JEWISH.
AND I SAID, WELL, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE GAP
OF WHY HE COULDN'T BECAUSE HE WAS JEWISH BECAUSE OF THE PAIN
OF THE PAST THAT THE CHRISTIANS OR THE SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS
HAD DONE TO THE JEWS.
HOWEVER, I DID SAY, IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR OWN BOOK,
GOD WILL REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU.
AND I ALSO CHALLENGED HIM TO SAY --
REBECCA: WORDS OF WISDOM.
KATHARINE: AW, THANK YOU.
I ALSO SAID, IF YOU PRAY, GOD WILL REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU.
BECAUSE I HAD JUST BEEN -- HE HAD JUST REVEALED HIMSELF TO ME,
AND IT WAS SO TANGIBLE THAT I KNEW
THAT GOD IS ABLE TO DO ANYTHING.
YEAH.
REBECCA: AND THEN THAT SET YOU ON A JOURNEY,
WHICH YOU HAD BEEN SEARCHING,
YOU HAD BEEN SEEKING FOR MANY YEARS AT THIS POINT.
HOW LONG HAD IT BEEN?
MYLES: SO BETWEEN OUR BAR MITZVAH AND MY SALVATION
IS MY TWENTY-YEAR FOR THE OLDER FOLKS
WHO WILL REMEMBER THE BEATLES,
MY FRIENDS IN NEW YORK CALLED IT MY MAGICAL MISERY TOUR.
SO I WAS --
KATHARINE: YOU HAVE TO ALSO SHARE THAT YOUR DAD DIED
WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG.
MYLES: YEAH, WHEN I WAS 19.
KATHARINE: SO THAT'S WHAT SET HIM UNDER.
MYLES: IT WAS A HOLE WHERE I DIDN'T GET TO DO THIS.
KATHARINE: YEAH.
REBECCA: AW.
MYLES: SO WHEN THE FATHER REVEALED HIMSELF
THROUGH JESUS TO ME, IT WAS LIKE, WOW, IT'S JUST,
IT WAS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE JEWISHNESS OF THE GOSPEL
AND ALSO TOTALLY SHOCKING.
AND SO I -- KATHARINE WAS VERY CHALLENGING.
SHE SAID, IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR OWN BOOK.
AND I THOUGHT, OKAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
SO I WENT BACK TO MY OFFICE AT THE TIME
AND I SAID TO THE CEILING, IF SHE'S RIGHT AND YOU'RE REAL,
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW ME.
I NEED GUIDANCE.
THE NEXT DAY, A MAN CAME UP TO ME IN A PARKING LOT
AND WE CHITTY-CHATTED FOR A SECOND ABOUT MUSIC.
HE WAS A MUSICIAN.
REBECCA: AND YOU WERE A MUSICIAN.
MYLES: I'M A...
KATHARINE: YES, YOU ARE.
JONATHAN: YOU'RE A MUSICIAN, DAD.
REBECCA: HE'S HUMBLE, BUT HE IS A MUSICIAN, FOLKS.
MYLES: AH.
KATHARINE: FOR SURE.
MYLES: ANYWAY, HE STOPPED IN MID-SENTENCE
AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW THE REAL REASON I CAME OVER HERE
IS BECAUSE THE LORD SAID,
GO TALK TO THE GUY WITH THE RED CAR.
YOU'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR GUIDANCE.
HE QUOTED BACK TO ME WHAT I HAD SAID ALONE THE DAY BEFORE.
JONATHAN: AMAZING.
MYLES: AND IT WAS JUST LIKE ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS --
KATHARINE: A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE.
MYLES: YEAH, A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE, TOTALLY.
YOU REALIZE YOUR LIFE HAS LED TO A CERTAIN POINT,
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT'S INTENSE.
AND SO THAT STARTED A SERIES OF SUPERNATURAL INTERACTIONS
THAT LED ME --
KATHARINE: TO YOUR SURRENDER.
MYLES: -- KICKING AND SCREAMING TO MY SALVATION.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: BUT WHAT'S SO COOL IS THAT YOU GOT SAVED
AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE IN THE CHURCH, PAUL CAIN
GAVE SUCH A TIMELY WORD.
FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW,
PAUL CAIN WAS A PROPHET.
HE WENT ON TO BE WITH THE LORD I THINK A YEAR OR SO AGO.
BUT WHAT WAS THAT WORD?
BECAUSE IT SO SPOKE TO YOUR JOURNEY.
KATHARINE: THAT'S TRUE.
MYLES: I WAS ONLY LIKE TWO MONTHS IN THE LORD.
KATHARINE: THAT'S TRUE.
REBECCA: OH, SO IT WAS SUPER FRESH.
MYLES: IT WAS TOTALLY NEW.
BECAUSE IT WAS PAUL, WE HAD A SMALL CHURCH,
BUT IT WAS PACKED WITH EIGHT HUNDRED PEOPLE.
AND HE SAID, IN THE MIDDLE OF FEELING THE ANOINTING,
WHICH HE DOES UNTIL HE LANDS SOMEWHERE, HE SAID,
THERE'S A YOUNG MAN HERE NAMED MYLES.
WHERE ARE YOU?
KATHARINE: AND AT THAT TIME, I WAS LIKE --
JONATHAN: MOM, WERE YOU THERE FOR THIS?
KATHARINE: I WAS THERE.
REBECCA: I SEE WHERE GOD HIT HER.
MYLES: AND SHE WAS LIKE, PRAY.
KATHARINE: I WAS LIKE, GOD KNOWS YOUR NAME!
THAT MEANS HE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU!
THAT MEANS HE KNOWS EVERYTHING!
AND SO I --
JONATHAN: BECAUSE YOU WERE A NEW BELIEVER,
SO THIS WAS ALL VERY FRESH.
KATHARINE: IN ALL OF THE SUPERNATURAL THAT WAS FLOWING.
JONATHAN: THAT'S SO COOL.
HOW EXCITING.
REBECCA: AND JUST SHOWED HOW PERSONAL GOD IS.
JONATHAN: ALSO SCARY, YEAH.
KATHARINE: IT WAS THE FEAR OF THE LORD.
MYLES: THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.
HE SAID TO ME, DON'T BE SCARED.
I THOUGHT, TOO LATE.
DON'T BE SCARED, STEP OUT INTO THE AISLE, COME FORWARD.
HE LEANED OVER THE OLD WOODEN PULPIT AND HE HELD MY HAND
AND HE SAID, THAT WORD ABOUT HEALING
THAT I JUST GAVE TO BILL IS ALSO FOR YOU BECAUSE GOD KNOWS
WHERE YOU'VE BEEN AND HE KNOWS YOU'RE NEVER FIT IN ANYWHERE
BECAUSE YOU ONLY BELONG
IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
AND HE'S GOING TO USE YOU TO TOUCH MANY LIVES.
AND SO --
REBECCA: WHICH HE HAS.
MYLES: WELL, WE WENT ON TO BIBLE COLLEGE
AND I WENT ON TO GRADUATE SCHOOL,
BECAME A THERAPIST, AND I THANK GOD I'VE BEEN ABLE
I THINK HELP A FEW PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY.
JONATHAN: THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
MYLES: BECAUSE OF THE --
REBECCA: AND IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
BOTH: YES.
MYLES: AND SO, YEAH, SO WE'VE BEEN
ON THAT SUPERNATURAL JOURNEY THE WHOLE TIME.
AND GLORY TO GOD.
REBECCA: SEE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOVE ABOUT YOUR STORY
AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR LIFETIME
IS WHAT YOUR FAMILY WAS FACING BACK
IN THE PERSECUTION IN EUROPE WAS BACK THEN
WHEN THEY WANTED PEOPLE TO CONVERT,
THEY WANTED TO LOSE THEIR COMPLETE JEWISH IDENTITY.
KATHARINE: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
REBECCA: BUT WHAT GOD INSTILLED IN YOU
AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR FAMILY
AND THEN THROUGH YOUR MINISTRY
IS YOU'VE HELPED BELIEVERS UNDERSTAND
THEIR IDENTITY IN YESHUA AND THE JEWISHNESS OF JESUS.
MYLES: EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND IRONIC OR NOT, MY HEBREW NAME IS MORDECAI.
THAT'S MY ACTUAL GIVEN NAME.
AND SO OUR JOB HAS BEEN TO RAISE ESTHER.
ESTHER NEEDED TO KNOW WHERE SHE CAME FROM
AND KNOW WHO SHE WAS AND CONNECT TO HER ORIGINAL PEOPLE,
AND THEN STAND UP FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE CHURCH NEEDS TO DO NOW, RIGHT.
SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE, BY THE GRACE OF GOD,
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THAT JUST BRING,
WHAT WE SAY IS,
BRING YESHUA TO ISRAEL AND BRING ISRAEL TO THE CHURCH.
KATHARINE: I LOVE HOW YOU ALSO SAY, THOUGH,
YOU DIDN'T CONVERT FROM JUDAISM,
YOU CONVERTED FROM SIN.
MYLES: YEAH.
IT'S NOT A SIN TO BE A JEW -- TURNS OUT IT'S NOT A SIN
TO BE A JEW.
KATHARINE: YEAH.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: AND SO I DIDN'T CONVERT INTO SOMETHING ELSE,
I CONVERTED FROM MY OLD LIFE.
KATHARINE: IT WAS A PROCESS, THOUGH, REBECCA,
TO FIND THAT BALANCE, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO
PUT ON OUR CHILDREN THE LAWS OR THE THINGS --
JONATHAN: WELL, IT WASN'T EVEN UNTIL LATER IN LIFE
UNTIL I WAS PROBABLY LIKE 13 OR 12
WHEN I STARTED TO REALIZE THAT I WAS JEWISH.
KATHARINE: RIGHT.
YOU WERE RAISED IN THE CHURCH AND YOU WERE RAISED IN REVIVAL.
JONATHAN: AN INTENSE REVIVAL OF THE CHURCH,
SPIRIT-FILLED, CRUSADE PRAYER.
IS CRUSADE PRAYER WHAT THEY STILL CALL IT
OR IS THAT JUST OLD SCHOOL WHAT THEY USED TO CALL IT?
KATHARINE: INTENSE PRAYER.
MYLES: YOU SAY IT'S A CAMPAIGN BACK IN THE DAY.
JONATHAN: OH, OKAY.
I JUST REMEMBER CRUSADE, 5:00 A.M., WE'RE THERE
IN OUR SLEEPING BAGS.
KATHARINE: IT WAS WONDERFUL.
JONATHAN: YEAH, IT WAS UNTIL --
YOU GREW UP IN A VERY RICH, ACTIVE, VERY CLOSE CHURCH.
YOU GUYS WERE LIKE A REAL --
JONATHAN: IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN WHEN I WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD,
ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I DID HAVE A BAR MITZVAH,
AND IT WAS AT THAT CHURCH.
KATHARINE: THAT'S RIGHT.
JONATHAN: SO IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN WHEN I WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS OLD
THAT WE STARTED TO INCORPORATE
MORE OF THE JEWISH HERITAGE AND TRADITIONS INTO OUR HOME.
KATHARINE: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: WHICH YOU CAN TELL THE STORY OF WHAT GOT THAT
TO ALL HAPPEN.
MYLES: YEAH.
WE HELPED PLANT A CHURCH IN SIBERIA.
AND SO WHEN WE WERE IN THE NATIONS,
WE WERE IN INDIA AND AFRICA AND SIBERIA AND RUSSIA,
AND WE WENT AND THEY ASKED US TO GO AND DO MARRIAGE SEMINARS
THERE.
SO WE WENT TO SIBERIA TO DO MARRIAGE SEMINARS,
AND ON OUR WAY HOME, THIS YOUNG PROPHETIC MAN SAID,
YOU KNOW YOU'RE CHEATING YOUR KIDS OUT OF THEIR HERITAGE?
AND I SAID, WHAT?
HE SAID, THEY'RE JEWISH.
THERE'S A DOUBLE BLESSING.
THEY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY COME FROM
AS WELL AS HOW THAT RELATES TO THE CHURCH --
JONATHAN: INTERESTING THAT WAS IN SIBERIA.
MYLES: IT WAS ON THE WAY BACK.
KATHARINE: YEAH.
JONATHAN: FULL CIRCLE.
KATHARINE: IT IS A FULL CIRCLE.
MYLES: SO WE REALIZED, OKAY,
THAT WAS THE WORD OF THE LORD, HOW DO WE DO THIS?
AND WE STARTED KEEPING SHABBAT AND KEEPING THE FEASTS
IN A NON-RELIGIOUS WAY AND INVITING THE CHURCH.
OF COURSE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE HOW THE PASTOR LIVES,
SO THEY WOULD COME.
BUT I WOULD SAY --
JONATHAN: THAT'S NOT WHY THEY CAME, DAD.
THEY WANTED TO FEEL GOD'S PRESENCE.
MYLES: I KNOW.
JONATHAN: AND IT WAS SO COOL.
IT IS LIKE SO ORGANIC BECAUSE IT WASN'T LIKE FANCY DRESSUP,
IT WAS JUST LIKE A SHABBAT IN OUR HOME.
REBECCA: LIKE REAL CHURCH.
JONATHAN: IT WAS.
REBECCA: REAL FAMILIES.
JONATHAN: WE WOULD GATHER, SING A FEW SONGS.
KATHARINE: IMAGINE LIKE A SMALL GROUP.
JONATHAN: BREAK BREAD, YEAH,
A SMALL GROUP OF LIKE --
REBECCA: OR A HOME CHURCH
LIKE THEY DID IN THE EARLY CHURCH DAYS.
JONATHAN: I REMEMBER THERE BEING LIKE EIGHTY PEOPLE THERE.
OUR HOUSE WAS LITTLE, BUT --
KATHARINE: IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE.
MYLES: IT GOT SO BIG, WE HAD TO TAKE IT TO CHURCH
OR HAVE A BIGGER CITY.
JONATHAN: WELL, THERE WERE PEOPLE FALLING IN THE POOL, SO.
[ LAUGHING ]
KATHARINE: WELL, WE LOVED TO HAVE ALL THE KIDS WITH US.
AND MYLES WOULD.
HE WOULD DO A LITTLE MINI-SERMON OR A LITTLE MINI-TEACHING,
AND THEN WE WOULD BREAK BREAD,
WE WOULD HAVE FOOD, WE WOULD SING,
WHATEVER WAS RELATED TO THAT FESTIVAL OR FEAST.
AND THEN WE'D SHARE.
AND THEN WE'D LET --
MYLES: IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING.
KATHARINE: PRAY FOR PEOPLE.
REBECCA: IT WAS A GODSAVE.
MYLES: WE SAW PEOPLE GET SAVED.
WE SAW PEOPLE GET HEALED.
IT WAS A REAL MOVEMENT OF GOD THAT WAS, RIGHT,
THEY CAME BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ABOUT US
AND NOT ABOUT SEEING MY HOUSE, WHICH IS MODEST.
KATHARINE: ALTHOUGH I DID LIKE YOUR CHALLENGE.
YOU SAID, IF YOU COME, YOU HAVE TO BRING...
MYLES: BRING A JEWISH PERSON THAT DOESN'T KNOW JESUS.
KATHARINE: WHICH IS A GREAT CHALLENGE.
MYLES: AND SO WE HAD HOT AND COLD-RUNNING JEWS.
WE WOULD BRING IN ISRAELIS THAT WERE GETTING SAVED,
THESE OLDER LADIES SAT ON THE COUCH AND THEY WOULD SAY,
I'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS AS THE PLACE WHERE I MET JESUS.
THIS OLD MAN, 95 YEARS OLD,
WHEN KATHARINE LIT THE SHABBAT CANDLES,
HE STARTED WEEPING, AND HE SAID, WHAT'S HAPPENING,
WHAT'S HAPPENING?
HE SAID, I HAVEN'T FELT LIKE THIS SINCE MY WIFE DIED.
I SAID, THAT'S YESHUA.
THAT'S THE JEWISH MESSIAH.
AND HE'S SAVING YOUR SOUL RIGHT NOW.
AND HE'S WEEPING.
AND GOD'S SO GRACIOUS, HE GETS SAVED.
AND THEN ON THE WAY OUT, I WOULD WALK HIM OUT TO THE CAR
WITH HIS CARETAKER, AND ON THE WAY INTO THE CAR,
HE SAID, OH, MY NECK HURT SO BAD,
I PRAYED FOR HIM, AND HE GOT HEALED.
AND THEN HE WENT TO BE WITH THE LORD.
IT WAS LIKE A TOTALLY DIVINE END-OF-LIFE APPOINTMENT
THAT HAPPENED IN OUR LITTLE HOUSE.
SO WE STARTED TO CALL WE DO BETH SHALOM,
THE HOUSE OF PEACE, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FINDING PEACE THERE.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S Y'ALL'S MINISTRY.
AND YOU'RE STILL DOING IT TO THIS DAY,
IT'S JUST NOW YOU'RE DOING IT THROUGH YOUR CHURCH,
THE FATHER'S HOUSE.
BOTH: CORRECT.
JONATHAN: AND MULTIMEDIA.
YOU GUYS DO YOUR LIVES, TALKING ABOUT IT ON FACEBOOK,
WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.
REBECCA: AND YOU SPEAK IF PEOPLE INVITE YOU OUT TO SPEAK.
SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE, FOLKS.
WE'LL PUT THEIR INFORMATION,
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO THIS AND THEY WANT
-- THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE YOU GUYS OUT,
AND SO WE'LL MAKE SURE TO LINK THAT.
BUT IT WAS THIS BEAUTIFUL GOD THING
THAT YOU WEREN'T TRYING TO START A CONGREGATION,
YOU WEREN'T TRYING, IT WAS JUST ORGANIC.
GOD PUT A DESIRE IN YOUR HEARTS,
YOU STARTED DOING IT IN YOUR HOME,
YOU STARTED INVITING PEOPLE IN,
AND IT JUST GREW, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GOD IS
IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WHICH IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
AND WHAT I LOVE, ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT
IS Y'ALL'S MARRIAGE.
BECAUSE HERE YOU ARE, TWO PEOPLE FROM VERY DIFFERENT WORLDS,
NEW YORK AND CALIFORNIA, RAISED JEWISH,
RAISED CATHOLIC, JUST COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
KATHARINE: TOTALLY.
REBECCA: AND YET YOU GUYS HAVE A BEAUTIFUL MARRIAGE.
MYLES: IN KIND.
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.
REBECCA: YOU GUYS ARE A GREAT TEAM.
YOU RAISED GREAT CHILDREN.
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.
REBECCA: AND THE LEGACY IS CONTINUING.
NOW YOU HAVE GRANDCHILDREN.
BUT YOU ARE A LIVING EXAMPLE OF ONE NEW MAN,
JEW AND GENTILE, DOING LIFE TOGETHER
AND MODELING THAT TO THE CHURCH.
SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO SPEAK TO THAT.
KATHARINE: OH, THAT'S A JOY, BECAUSE AT FIRST,
AGAINST ALL ODDS, MY FAMILY WAS NOT FOR IT.
REBECCA: OOH, TELL THE STORY.
PEOPLE WANT THE STORIES.
KATHARINE: OUR GENTILE FAMILY,
MYLES IS A LITTLE BIT OLDER, HE'S JEWISH.
MY MOM'S LIKE, YOU CAN'T MARRY A JEW, YOU'LL BE PERSECUTED.
I SAID --
MYLES: SHE WAS RIGHT.
KATHARINE: I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
JESUS WAS A JEW.
AND SO MY HEART WAS SO CONNECTED TO JESUS
THAT I KNEW THAT IF HE WAS CONNECTED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE
THAT I WANTED TO BE CONNECTED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
REBECCA: YOU'RE LIKE A REAL RUTH.
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.
REBECCA: YEAH.
KATHARINE: THAT'S A HUGE COMPLIMENT
BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WE CHOSE TO FOCUS OUR IDENTITY ON.
AND EVEN IN OUR WEDDING, YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE,
WE HAD A BEAUTIFUL OPERA SINGER SING THIS SONG.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO COOL.
KATHARINE: YEAH, IT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
REBECCA: ALSO, I WANT YOU TO SAY YOUR PARENTS HAD YOUR SIGHTS --
THEY HAD THEIR SIGHTS ON YOU MARRYING SOMEONE DIFFERENT.
KATHARINE: YES.
MYLES: OH, BOY.
REBECCA: IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM MYLES.
JONATHAN: OH, HIS PARENTS.
MYLES: NO, NOT ME.
KATHARINE: MY -- SO I WAS, AT ONE POINT, IN BETWEEN --
REBECCA: THEY HAD THEIR DREAMS AND EXPECTATIONS.
KATHARINE: YEAH, IN BETWEEN DATING MYLES,
AND I WAS DATING ANOTHER GENTLEMAN TOO.
BECAUSE IN THOSE DAYS, YOU DATED.
YOU WEREN'T GOING, YEAH.
REBECCA: YOU WEREN'T IN A COMMITTED RELATIONSHIP.
JONATHAN: SO I WAS DATING UP UNTIL REBECCA,
AND THEN I SAW REBECCA, AND I WAS LIKE, GAME OVER.
[ LAUGHING ]
KATHARINE: THAT'S IT, RIGHT.
REBECCA: THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU WERE FOCUSED.
MYLES: THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
REBECCA: I WAS END GAME.
JONATHAN: YOU WERE END GAME.
MYLES: WITH KATHARINE, JUST SO YOU KNOW,
THIS GUY WAS A MALE MODEL MILLIONAIRE HEIR
TO A CLOTHING FORTUNE WHO HAD A FERRARI AND A HOUSE
IN PACIFIC HEIGHTS IN SAN FRANCISCO.
SO NATURALLY, HER PARENTS WERE NOT CRAZY ABOUT THIS LITTLE JEW
COMING AROUND, WHICH I DON'T --
REBECCA: AND YOUR PARENTS WERE FROM THAT UPPER-CLASS SOCIETY,
SO YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS, THEY WANT TO KEEP --
KATHARINE: SOCIETY PEOPLE.
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
KATHARINE: WELL, I'M SITTING IN HIS FERRARI,
AND THE LORD SHOWED ME MY LIFE, AND HE SAID,
YOU CAN CHOOSE THAT, BUT I HAVE A PATH FOR YOU.
AND HE SHOWED ME THAT I WOULD BE HAPPIER FOLLOWING HIM.
AND I CHOSE HIM.
AND I QUICKLY, THAT PERSON, HE GOT BAPTIZED,
BUT THAT PERSON, I REALIZED THAT THAT WAS NOT MY LIFE PARTNER.
AND SO THERE'S TIMES LIKE THAT WHERE YOU JUST HAVE TO
SURRENDER TO GOD'S CALL AND FIGURE OUT,
LET HIM CHOOSE YOUR PARTNER, RIGHT.
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
BECAUSE SO YOU LET THAT GUY GO,
AND THEN MYLES...?
DID YOU KNOW THEN THAT MYLES WAS THE ONE?
KATHARINE: YES.
REBECCA: HOW DID THAT UNFOLD?
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I KNOW THIS STORY.
JONATHAN: YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
REBECCA: AND HOW DID YOU KNOW?
BECAUSE YOU WERE ALSO A HOT COMMODITY ON YOUR END.
PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO SET YOU UP.
MYLES: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT,
BUT I SAW KATHY --
REBECCA: YEAH, YOU WERE, I KNOW IT.
MYLES: I SAW KATHARINE ACROSS THE ROOM,
AND IT WAS LIKE THE OLD ORIGINALWEST SIDE STORY
WHEN TONY SEES MARIA.
IT'S LIKE THE ROOM FADED AWAY, AND THERE SHE WAS,
AND IT WAS LIKE MICHAEL CORLEONE
GETTING HIT BY THE THUNDERBOLT IN SICILY.
A FEWGODFATHER FANS.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: BUT I WAS HIT BY THE THUNDERBOLT.
I SAID, THAT'S IT.
WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO, I'M GOING TO GET HER.
REBECCA: AW.
JONATHAN: IT'S PRETTY DEFINITE.
REBECCA: HEY, BUT YOU GOT RELEASED
BY WHO WAS OVER JEWS FOR JESUS, RIGHT?
THAT WAS A BIG DEAL, TOO.
MYLES: OH, THAT'S A GREAT STORY.
JONATHAN: OH, YEAH, THAT'S STILL GOOD.
REBECCA: TELL THAT STORY.
MYLES: THIS I CAN NAME.
MITCH GLAZER WAS THE CHIEF OF STATION IN JEWS FOR JESUS,
HE NOW LEADS A CHOSEN PEOPLE.
HE'S A WONDERFUL GUY, A GREAT MINISTER.
KATHARINE: SO THE INTRO TO THAT WAS THAT WE'D PUT --
WHEN WE FIRST MET EACH OTHER,
SO WE MET OUTSIDE OF THE LORD, RIGHT,
AND SO THEN WE PUT OUR RELATIONSHIP ON HOLD
WHEN WE MET THE LORD.
AND SO THEN YOU WENT AND SERVED WITH JEWS FOR JESUS.
SO THIS WAS, WE WERE ON --
JONATHAN: THEY WERE ALWAYS DEDICATED TO THE MINISTRY,
REBECCA.
SO EVEN BACK THEN, THEY WERE LIKE,
WE'VE GOT TO STOP.
KATHARINE: PUT IT ON THE ALTAR.
IT WAS AN OLD SAYING.
MYLES: SO I AUDITIONED FOR THE LIBERATED WAILING WALL,
WHICH WAS --
JONATHAN: AND WE HAVE A GOOD PHOTO OF THAT,
WITH YOU IN THE SUBWAY WITH A GUITAR.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: TELL PEOPLE WHAT THAT WAS.
MYLES: SO THAT WAS THE JEWS FOR JESUS TRAVELING BAND.
THEY WOULD TAKE 18 MONTHS.
JONATHAN: GEEZ.
IT'S A LONG TOUR.
MYLES: YEAH.
GO AROUND THE COUNTRY IN A BUS AND SING AND PREACH.
JONATHAN: SING WHAT EXACTLY?
ARE THEY SINGING JEWISH FOLK SONGS?
MYLES: NO, NO.
GOSPEL MUSIC.
JONATHAN: TO JEWS?
MYLES: YEAH, TO ANYBODY.
ANYBODY.
STREET MINISTRIES.
REBECCA: SO YOU'RE DOING STREET EVANGELISM.
MYLES: I DIDN'T DO IT.
BECAUSE I WENT TO MITCH AND I SAID, LOOK,
I JUST PASSED THE AUDITION,
BUT I JUST ENTERED BIBLE COLLEGE,
AND THERE'S THIS GIRL.
AND HE, BACK IN THE DAY, HE HAD A LONG BEARD,
HE JUST SAT BACK AND HE STROKED HIS BEARD AND HE SAID,
STAY HOME AND MARRY THE GIRL.
REBECCA: WHICH IS A HUGE DEAL.
MYLES: FOR THE JEWS FOR JESUS,
THEY'RE LIKE A SHANGHAI PRESS GANG.
THEY TAKE --
KATHARINE: OH, MYLES.
MYLES: THEY TAKE ANY JEW THAT'S WILLING TO SERVE,
THEY JUST DISAPPEAR FROM THE LIGHT.
KATHARINE: THEY'RE VERY MILITANT.
MYLES: NO, THEY'RE VERY SWEET.
AND THEN SO POWERFUL --
REBECCA: BUT THEY WOULD HAVE WANTED SOMEONE LIKE YOU
ON THE TEAM, SO FOR HIM TO,
THAT JUST SHOWS IT WAS A GOD THING.
MYLES: NO, NO, BUT HERE'S WHAT, I JOKE,
I HAD MITCH ON MY PODCAST, AND I JOKED WITH HIM ABOUT IT,
AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I KNEW YOU WOULD BE USELESS
IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HER THE WHOLE TIME.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: SO YOU WENT AFTER THE GIRL.
MYLES: I DID.
REBECCA: NOW, HOW DID THAT PLAY OUT?
KATHARINE: WELL, IT WAS GOOD,
BECAUSE WHEN WE PUT THAT ON HOLD,
HE WAS -- YOU DID SERVE WITH THE JEWS FOR JESUS ON CAMPAIGN,
BUT IT WASN'T THAT LONG STINT,
IT WAS MORE LIKE A SUMMER CAMPAIGN.
MYLES: THROUGH SUMMER, YEAH.
KATHARINE: AND SO WHEN MYLES WAS AWAY DURING THAT TIME,
I REALIZED HE WAS THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO TELL
WHAT GOD WAS DOING IN MY LIFE,
HE IS THE ONE THAT I WOULD WANT TO CALL.
MYLES: KIND OF LIKE YOU GUYS HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS.
KATHARINE: SO WE HAD A LONG DISTANCE.
SO HE WAS THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO SHARE,
AND HE'S THE ONE THAT I FELT THE SAFEST WITH.
AND SO THE LORD JUST STARTED IMPRESSING TO ME
THAT THIS IS THE ONE, YEAH.
REBECCA: SO HOW DID Y'ALL LINK BACK UP?
KATHARINE: WELL, WE WERE --
MYLES: WELL, WE WERE IN THE SAME CHURCH.
KATHARINE: SAME CHURCH.
MYLES: THE ONE I WENT TO,
CAMPAIGN IN NEW YORK CITY --
REBECCA: AND THAT'S THE CHURCH THAT HE GREW UP IN?
BOTH: YES.
REBECCA: OKAY.
KATHARINE: BUT I WAS STILL BRINGING PEOPLE
TO THE CHURCH TO GET SAVED.
FRIENDS OF MINE, COME GET SAVED.
MYLES: YEP.
WE WERE MINISTERING APART, BUT THEN GOD BROUGHT US
BACK TOGETHER AT THE CHURCH.
REBECCA: SO YOU GUYS ARE AT THE SAME CHURCH,
YOU GET LINKED BACK UP.
HOW LONG DO YOU GUYS DATE UNTIL YOU'RE ON THE MARRIAGE PATH,
AND TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOUR PARENTS RESPONDED
TO YOU TWO GETTING MARRIED?
KATHARINE: WELL, YOU ASKED -- YOU ASKED MY MOM, RIGHT?
JONATHAN: YEAH, YOU HAVE A GOOD, OKAY,
YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOOD STORIES ON THIS.
REBECCA: I WANT TO HEAR THE STORIES.
MYLES: SO WE WERE TOGETHER TWO YEARS
ON THE WAY TO THE ALTAR, TO MARRIAGE.
JONATHAN: THAT'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME.
MYLES: IT WAS.
REBECCA: SO YOU DIDN'T RUSH ANYTHING.
MYLES: NO, NO, NO.
WE WERE -- YOU REMEMBER, WE GREW UP IN THIS LIKE --
SALVATION, WE GREW UP IN THIS VERY
HOLINESS-ORIENTED, MISSIONS-ORIENTED PLACE,
AND IT'S LIKE FEAR OF THE LORD WAS REAL.
AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO, A,
MAKE A MISTAKE OR RUSH ANYTHING.
SO IT TOOK ABOUT TWO YEARS,
BUT THEN WE GOT MARRIED.
PARENTS' REACTION, OF COURSE, DAD WAS GONE.
MY MOM.
KATHARINE: [ SIGHS ]
I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.
SHE WAS NOT HAPPY AT ME.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: WHICH IS SUCH A GOOD THING,
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN THIS SITUATION THEMSELVES.
KATHARINE: RIGHT.
MYLES: YES.
SO MY MOM, OF COURSE, EXPECTED ME TO MARRY A JEWISH GIRL,
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
AND WE USED TO DO.
SO SHE WAS AMBIVALENT.
BUT HERE'S THE COOLEST THING: WHEN KATHERINE CAME TO NEW YORK,
WE HAD A -- WE HAD A PARTY AFTER, RIGHT?
KATHARINE: YES.
SO THIS WAS -- WE HAD A RECEPTION PARTY AFTER.
MYLES: WE HAD A WEST COAST AND AN EAST COAST RECEPTION.
KATHARINE: A LOT OF THE PEOPLE DID COME TO THE WEDDING,
BUT THEN WE HAD THE REST OF THE FAMILY,
WE HAD A RECEPTION FOR THEM AFTER.
MYLES: IN NEW YORK.
KATHARINE: WE HAD ALREADY BEEN MARRIED.
REBECCA: OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
MYLES: AND THE AMBIVALENCE WAS OBVIOUS
AT THE PART OF MY FAMILY.
AND SO KATHARINE, TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENED.
YOU WENT INTO THE BATHROOM AND WEPT.
KATHARINE: WELL, I REALIZED,
THEY DON'T LIKE ME.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: OH, NO.
KATHARINE: I FELT THE COLDNESS.
JONATHAN: HARD TO BELIEVE.
KATHARINE: AND IT'S LIKE,
I HADN'T EVER FELT THAT.
JONATHAN: THAT'S GOT TO BE HARD.
KATHARINE: YEAH.
IT WAS LIKE, WELL, I DIDN'T FEEL ACCEPTED.
AND EVEN, JUST A COLDNESS.
NOW, I THINK MAYBE ALSO A DISTANCE IN BELIEF OR FAITH.
SO I WENT INTO THE BATHROOM AND I THREW MYSELF
ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR AND I SAID, GOD, HELP ME.
HELP ME FIND A WAY.
AND HE GAVE ME A SCRIPTURE THAT HE WOULD BE
THE REPAIRER OF THE BREACH AND HE WOULD MAKE ME --
AND HE WOULD GIVE US A PAST TO DWELL ON.
AND THAT'S OUT OF ISAIAH.
I THINK IT'S 58 -- 54.
AND SO THAT HE WAS GOING TO BUILD UP THE OLD WASTE PLACES,
THE PLACES THAT HAD BEEN BROKEN DOWN,
THE PLACES THAT, IN THEIR LIVES,
HAD BEEN PAINFUL SO THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RECEIVE ME
OR FELT FEARFUL TO RECEIVE ME.
AND SO THROUGH MANY -- MUCH LOVE AND SURRENDERS
AND JUST BEING THERE FOR HIS MOM,
WE FINALLY BUILT THAT BRIDGE.
DON'T YOU THINK, MYLES?
MYLES: I WOULD SAY.
KATHARINE: I WOULD TAKE HER PHONE CALL.
AND SHE JUST WANTED TO LET -- SHE JUST WANTED TO KNOW
THAT I WASN'T GOING TO TAKE HIM TOTALLY AWAY FROM HER.
AND WE WOULD SAY, GRANDMA HANNAH...
MYLES: THERE'S ENOUGH LOVE TO GO AROUND.
KATHARINE: YEAH.
MYLES: I KNEW THAT THIS WAS THE PRIMARY.
KATHARINE: WE SAY, THIS IS FIRST.
MYLES: THIS IS FIRST.
BUT THERE'S ENOUGH LOVE TO GO AROUND.
AND AT THE END OF MY MOM'S LIFE, SHE HAD DEMENTIA,
AT THE END OF HER LIFE, THIS WAS THE ONLY FACE SHE RECOGNIZED.
KATHARINE: AND SHE CAME TO THE LORD.
MYLES: OH, YEAH.
SHE GOT SAVED.
JONATHAN: WHAT DID SHE SAY WHEN SHE GOT SAVED,
SHE SAID, DON'T TELL MYLES?
[ LAUGHING ]
KATHARINE: THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.
MYLES: I WAS IN AFRICA ON MY FIRST OVERSEAS MISSIONS TRIP
WITH THE PASTORS,
AND MY MOM WAS IN A FACILITY BY THEN,
AND A REALLY NICE PLACE.
AND OUR CHURCH HAPPENED TO DO A BIBLE STUDY THERE,
SO THEY WOULD DO IT WEEKLY THERE.
AT THE END OF ONE OF THE --
REBECCA: SO YOUR MOM HAD MOVED OUT TO CALIFORNIA.
MYLES: OH, YEAH, WE BROUGHT HER OUT.
KATHARINE: YEAH, WE MOVED HER OUT BECAUSE WE --
REBECCA: AND SEE, AND YOU TOOK CARE OF HER AND HONORED HER.
MYLES: IN OUR HOME.
REBECCA: SEE, SO YOU NEVER GAVE UP.
YOU GUYS WERE ALWAYS LOVING TO HER.
AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT WORD FOR PEOPLE
THAT ARE IN DIFFICULT SITUATION, LOVE NEVER FAILS, DON'T GIVE UP.
KATHARINE: YES.
MYLES: YEAH.
AND ESPECIALLY IN OUR CULTURE WHERE WE'RE NOT USED TO
HONORING THE ELDERLY LIKE YOU GUYS HONOR ME.
ANYWAY --
KATHARINE: YES, YOU DO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU DO.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: SO I WAS IN AFRICA,
AND THIS YOUNG MAN FINISHED HIS BIBLE STUDY,
HE ASKED ME TO SALVATION CALL,
AND MY MOM RAISED HER HAND IN THE BACK ROW.
AND HE WENT OVER TO HER AND HE KNELT DOWN AND SAID,
HANNAH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING?
AND SHE SAID, IN TYPICAL NEW YORK FASHION,
SHE SAID, JUST DON'T TELL MYLES.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN PREACHING TO HER FOR TEN YEARS.
KATHARINE: I DON'T WANT HIM TO BE RIGHT.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: LEST HE BE RIGHT.
SO SHE BEGAN TO BELIEVE --
REBECCA: DID YOU KNOW THAT SHE WAS GOING TO THAT BIBLE STUDY?
MYLES: OH, YEAH, YEAH.
KATHARINE: YOU DID?
MYLES: DID I?
OH, NO, NO.
I WAS IN AFRICA.
REBECCA: SO YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT SHE WAS EVEN THERE.
MYLES: I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
KATHARINE: NO.
REBECCA: OH, MY GOSH.
KATHARINE: AND THAT'S ANOTHER WORD THAT GOD GAVE US,
THAT IF WE DO HIS BUSINESS,
HE'LL TAKE CARE OF OUR BUSINESS.
JONATHAN: THAT'S A GOOD WORD FOR EVERYBODY, YEAH.
KATHARINE: YEAH.
MYLES: YEAH.
WE HAVE TO, IT'S NOT EASY, BUT WE NEED TO DISCERN THE WORD
AND THE DIRECTION AND TAKE CARE OF WHAT HE'S CALLING US TO DO.
I MUST BE ABOUT MY FATHER'S BUSINESS,
YESHUA SAID IN THE TEMPLE, RIGHT.
SO AS WE YIELDED TO THAT, GOD HAS BLESSED US
WITH THINGS LIKE THAT.
MY MOM GOT SAVED, MY SISTER GOT SAVED.
WE PRAYED OVER EVERYONE IN KATHARINE'S FAMILY,
BUT THEY WERE LIKE WHACK-A-MOLE,
KEEP TRYING TO GET THEM.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: WE CAN'T KEEP THAT IN.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: YES, BUT I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT.
SO THROUGH YOU, SO YOU COULD HAVE BEEN DISCOURAGED,
BUT Y'ALL DIDN'T GIVE UP,
AND OVER TIME, YOUR FAMILY GOT SAVED,
AND THEN YOUR FAMILY GOT SAVED.
KATHARINE: YES, YES.
REBECCA: AND YOUR PARENTS CAME TO THE LORD.
KATHARINE: OH, THAT'S --
REBECCA: AND HAD A REAL CHANGE, TOO.
KATHARINE: ABSOLUTELY.
A MIRACLE.
LIKE I SAID, WE WERE RAISED CATHOLIC,
SO WE HAD AN AWARENESS OF GOD.
BUT GOD WASN'T IN OUR DAILY LIVING AND WHAT WE DID EVERY DAY
OR IF THE FOCUS OF OUR LIFE.
IT WAS MORE ACHIEVEMENT, MONEY, SUCCESS.
BUT ACTUALLY, IT WAS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, JONATHAN,
WHEN YOU ASKED REBECCA TO MARRY YOU.
YOU WERE IN JERUSALEM.
JONATHAN: I WAS.
KATHARINE: -- MY MOM AND MY DAD AND MYLES AND I
WERE ON A LITTLE MINI-VACATION IN HAWAII.
JONATHAN: OH, THAT'S RIGHT, I REMEMBER THIS.
REBECCA: THEY WERE WATCHING US.
MYLES: EVERY DAY --
JONATHAN: YOU AND YOUR DAD AND MOM.
MYLES: EVERY DAY AT 3:00,
WE'D LEAVE THE BEACH AND GO UP TO WATCH DAYSTAR.
KATHARINE: HAWAII DIDN'T EXIST,
ONLY THAT EXISTED WAS YOU TWO,
AND THEY WERE ALL IN BECAUSE WE WERE JUST,
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MY FAMILY LOVES BOTH OF YOU.
MY DAD AND MY MOM LOVE BOTH OF YOU.
AND SO WE WOULD WATCH.
AND THEN JIMMY EVANS, GOD BLESS HIM, SAID,
WE KNOW WE NEED TO MAKE SURE,
AFTER HE'S PREACHED ON THE END TIMES,
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL RIGHT WITH GOD.
AND SO I SAID, WE'RE ALL SITTING LIKE IN LIKE A LITTLE,
AND WE'RE WATCHING,
I THINK WE'RE WATCHING -- NO, THE TV OR COMPUTER.
I SAID, OH, WE NEED TO ALL STAND RIGHT NOW
AND SAY THE SINNER'S PRAYER.
AND SO WE ALL STOOD, GRABBED HANDS,
AND WE ALL REPEATED AFTER JIMMY.
AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT MY PARENTS, MY DAD,
HAD SAID THAT SINNER'S SURRENDER.
AND SAID THE SINNER'S PRAYER.
JONATHAN: WELL, AND WE EVEN SAW HEART CHANGE IN HIM.
AFTER THAT MOMENT, THE REST OF HIS LIFE, WHICH --
KATHARINE: EVEN AT YOUR WEDDING,
HE GAVE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL --
JONATHAN: EXACTLY, OH, YEAH.
KATHERINE: -- TOAST.
JONATHAN: WE HAVE THAT SPEECH, AND I LOVE THAT.
I WANT TO GO BACK AND WATCH IT.
KATHARINE: YEAH.
REBECCA: AND EVEN WHEN HE WAS,
KNOWING THAT HE WAS ABOUT TO BE MAKING HIS WAY TO HEAVEN SOON,
HE EVEN TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
BOTH: YEAH.
MYLES: WE HAD A CHANCE TO CONFIRM WITH HIM
AT THE VERY LAST FEW DAYS.
HE SAID, I DON'T FEEL GOOD ENOUGH,
AND I WAS ABLE TO SAY, NOW NONE OF US ARE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE HIM, YOU'LL KNOW.
AND IT WAS LIKE, IT WAS LIKE THE NEXT DAY I THINK HE WENT.
REBECCA: THIS BEAUTIFUL STORY WHERE
TWO PEOPLE FROM VERY DIFFERENT WORLDS,
HOW GOD BROUGHT THE TWO OF YOU TOGETHER,
AND THEN USED YOU GUYS TO BRING SALVATION TO YOUR FAMILIES
AND BRING THEM INTO THE FAMILY OF GOD.
KATHARINE: AMEN.
REBECCA: AND GOD'S USED YOU TO ALSO MINISTER TO FAMILIES
ALL AROUND THE WORLD,
AND YOU'RE HELPING TEACH PEOPLE.
TO THIS DAY, YOU'RE STRENGTHENING MARRIAGES.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ARE REALLY,
REALLY GREAT AT, BUT YOU'RE ALSO TEACHING BELIEVERS,
JEW AND GENTILE,
ABOUT THE ONE NEW MAN, AND HOW TO DO IT IN A,
WHAT'S THE BEST WORD TO DESCRIBE IT?
I THINK IN A BIBLICAL WAY.
NOT MAKING IT WEIRD, NOT MAKING IT RELIGIOUS.
BUT A REAL AUTHENTIC PRESENCE-DRIVEN WORD-BASED WAY.
KATHARINE: RIGHT.
MYLES: YEAH.
AND PART OF OUR MANDATE HAS BEEN TO ALWAYS DO WHAT WE DO
IN CONNECTION WITH THE CHURCH.
I INTERVIEWED GREG STONE FROM GATEWAY A FEW WEEKS AGO,
AND WE WERE THE SAME IN THAT WAY,
THAT HE'S ALWAYS FELT LIKE THE MESSIANIC WORK THAT HE DOES
NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED TO THE CHURCH AT LARGE
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE CHURCH NEEDS SOMETHING
THAT WE CARRY, THAT THE JEWISH PEOPLE CARRY,
BUT WE NEED THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
THAT THE CHURCH CARRIES.
SO IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE IN THE LIVING TIME OF THE ONE NEW MAN,
AND I THINK THAT'S, ACTUALLY,
I REALLY THINK THAT THE HOPE FOR AMERICA RIGHT NOW,
IT COMES OUT OF THIS TRAGEDY IN ISRAEL,
THE HOPE FOR AMERICA RIGHT NOW IS TO UNDERSTAND
THE JEWISH ROOTS OF THE FAITH.
BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT UNDERSTANDING LIFE
AND MARRIAGE, PRO-LIFE, PRO-MARRIAGE,
BUT GOD'S ALSO PRO-ISRAEL.
AND WHAT IF THAT'S THE MISSING KEY?
THIS IS WHAT GOD'S BEEN SPEAKING TO ME SINCE OCTOBER 7TH.
WHAT IF THE MISSING KEY TO THE REVIVAL AMERICA
IS PRAYING FOR AND THE RETURN OF THE BLESSING ON AMERICA,
WHAT IF IT'S THAT MISSING PART OF BLESSING
THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM?
WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FOR
AND THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED?
JONATHAN: GOD SHOWED ME THAT WHEN I GOT SAVED IN BETHEL.
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS -- I STARTED JOURNALING FEROCIOUSLY.
REMEMBER WE FOUND THOSE JOURNALS OR WHATEVER.
BUT I REMEMBER BACK THEN, BECAUSE I WAS JUST READING
THE WORD SO CONSISTENTLY.
I REMEMBER READING HOW END TIME REVIVAL WOULD BE
WHEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE WOULD RECEIVE THEIR MESSIAH.
AND SO I KNOW THAT THE SAME GOES FOR THE CHURCH,
THAT ONCE THE CHURCH ACCEPTS THE JEWISH PEOPLE
AND UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR SIGNIFICANCE
OR THEIR PART OF GOD'S STORY, IT'S GOING TO BRING ABOUT
ENDTIME REVIVAL.
MYLES: YEAH.
THE WAY THAT GOD'S BEEN SHOWING IT TO ME, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THE WAY THAT GOD'S BEEN SHOWING IT TO ME IS THAT
CHRISTIANS HAD A REFORMATION.
WE'VE HAD AWAKENINGS AND REVIVALS.
BUT THERE'S A RESTORATION COMING.
KATHARINE: THAT'S RIGHT.
MYLES: AND ONE OF THE KEYS TO RESTORATION IS
THE LOVE OF THE BELIEVERS BEING GIVEN
TO THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM.
REBECCA: FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING
OR WATCHING THIS AND THEY'RE HAVING --
THEY'RE FEELING THAT STIRRING WITHIN THEM THAT THEY WANT THIS
BUT THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO GO ABOUT IT,
WHAT WOULD YOUR ADVICE BE TO THEM?
MYLES: WELL, WATCH DAYSTAR.
[ LAUGHING ]
MYLES: PRAY.
NO, I DON'T MEAN TO BE SUPERCILIOUS ABOUT IT
OR FRIVOLOUS, BUT DAYSTAR HAS BEEN A REAL BEACON
OF KEEPING THAT LIGHT GOING FROM THE CHRISTIANS
TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
AND I THINK THAT THEY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH US,
THEY CAN LOOK AT ANY OF THE MAIN RESOURCES,
SO MANY RESOURCES AVAILABLE NOW
THAT WHERE THE UNDERSTANDING IS GROWING.
BUT THERE'S STILL MANY DENOMINATIONS
THAT ARE COMPLETELY IN THE DARK OR ANTI-ISRAEL.
AND SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.
KATHARINE: I WOULD SAY SPEAK UP.
I WOULD SAY PRAY.
I WOULD SAY BE A VOICE FOR THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES
THAT THIS NATION WAS BUILT ON
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE HAD REVIVAL FROM, IS FROM THAT ROOT,
AND THAT GOD WANTS TO RESTORE IT SO THAT THERE CAN BE
EVEN MORE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
AND I HAVE HOPE FOR THAT.
I REALLY DO.
EVEN THOUGH ALL THIS -- THERE'S MANY VOICES OUT THERE,
BUT I HAVE HOPE THAT PEOPLE ARE HEARING THE TRUTH,
AND I BELIEVE GOD'S WORD OVER EVERY OTHER WORD.
AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE LAND,
THEY'RE GOING TO CALL OUT TO THEIR MESSIAH,
WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE REVIVAL COME,
AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE RESTORATION
THAT HE IS LONGING FOR.
THAT WORD HAS BEEN IN MY HEART ALL DAY TODAY,
IS RESTORATION, AND THAT'S WHAT GOD IS DOING.
HE'S RESTORING LIVES, HE'S RESTORING ISRAEL,
AND HE'S RESTORING MARRIAGES,
HE'S RESTORING THE PEOPLE BACK TO THE BOOK.
REBECCA: AND FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET THAT DOWNLOAD FROM GOD,
HOW DO THEY GET THAT?
MYLES: I WOULD FOLLOW KATHARINE'S ADVICE,
WHICH SHE CHALLENGED ME WITH GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING
OF THIS PODCAST.
YOU ASK HEAVEN.
IT'S REALLY LIKE THAT GETTING SAVED, TOO.
ASK LIKE I DID, GOD, IF SHE'S RIGHT
AND YOU'RE WHO SHE SAYS YOU ARE, YOU'VE GOT TO SEND ME GUIDANCE.
WELL, SAME THING WITH THIS REVELATION
OF THE IMPORTANCE OF ISRAEL.
IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT
AND THEY'RE IN THE DARK OR THEY MAY HAVE ANTISEMITISM
IN THEIR BACKGROUND, A LOT OF US HAVE THAT,
THEY CAN SAY, GOD, IF SHE'S RIGHT
AND YOU'RE WHO THEY SAY YOU ARE, YOU ARE THE GOD OF ABRAHAM,
ISAAC, AND JACOB, WHO IS ISRAEL, AND THAT YOU WANT ME TO
UNDERSTAND THIS REVELATION,
PLEASE SEND ME GUIDANCE, AND HE WILL.
IT'S AN HONEST PLEA.
REBECCA: ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO SAY, LAST WORDS?
MYLES: WE LOVE YOU.
KATHARINE: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WE LOVE YOU.
REBECCA: AW.
JONATHAN: WE LOVE YOU.
REBECCA: WE LOVE YOU.
[ LAUGHING ]
KATHARINE: AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF YOU BOTH.
AND WE JUST WANT TO BLESS YOU HOWEVER WE CAN,
STRENGTHEN YOUR HANDS AND STRENGTHEN YOUR LIVES
FOR THE JOURNEY AHEAD, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S THE GENERATIONS,
AND WE WANT TO BE THERE FOR THE LITTLE ARROWS
THAT GOD IS BRINGING INTO YOUR LIFE,
AND ASHER AND BOAZ.
MYLES: YES.
IT'S L'DOR V'DOR' IN HEBREW, GENERATION TO GENERATION.
AND WE OBVIOUSLY, WE BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL GO MUCH FURTHER
THAN WE COULD EVER HAVE GONE,
AND THAT THE KIDS, YOUR KIDS,
WILL GO EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT.
KATHARINE: AMEN.
MYLES: IN THE KINGDOM.
REBECCA: WELL, WE HONOR YOU TWO,
AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY,
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR HEART WITH OUR AUDIENCE TODAY.
COME BACK.
KATHARINE: AW, WE'D LOVE TO.
JONATHAN: COME BACK AND VISIT US AGAIN.
REBECCA: WELL, WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE ABOUT YOU TO TALK ABOUT.
KATHARINE: ALREADY PUTTING ON THE CALENDAR
FOR THE NEXT TIME, FOR SURE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND JUST, WE HONOR YOU GUYS.
WE LOVE YOU GUYS.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
KATHARINE: THANK YOU.
MYLES: THANK YOU.
REBECCA: AND FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT YOU,
WHERE DO THEY GO?
MYLES: I WAS CHECKING THIS MORNING.
JONATHAN: AT MKHOP.ORG.
MYLES: MKHOP, M-K-H-O-P, HOUSE OF PEACE, MKHOP.ORG.
OR JUST PUT IN MYLES AND KATHARINE WEISS.
KATHARINE: MK, MYLES AND KATHARINE.
MYLES: YES.
KATHARINE: HOUSE OF PEACE.
MYLES: YEAH.
REBECCA: AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GO TO BEIT ABBA,
HOW DO THEY DO THAT?
MYLES: TFH.ORG.
BEIT ABBA.
BUT IT'S BASICALLY --
KATHARINE: WE HAVE OUR ONCE-A-MONTH SERVICE.
MYLES: YEAH, WE HAVE A SERVICE WITH THE BIG CHURCH.
JONATHAN: BUT THEY ALSO DO STUFF ONLINE ALL THE TIME,
WHICH IS WE DO, YEAH.
MYLES: MOSTLY OUR WEBSITE, MKHOP.ORG.
IT CONNECTS TO THE PODCAST, TO THE SERVICES,
TO THE BOOK, TO ALL THE TEACHINGS.
KATHARINE: WELL, LIKE JONATHAN SAID,
WE LIKE TO DO LIVE, AS MUCH AS WE CAN,
FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS.
JONATHAN: DO IT LIVE.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: WELL, YOU HEARD IT HERE.
THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU, JONATHAN.
AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST .