WEBVTT 00:00:08.466 --> 00:00:10.066 Rebecca Weiss: Hey, guys, welcome back 00:00:10.099 --> 00:00:11.466 to the "Rebecca Weiss Podcast." 00:00:11.499 --> 00:00:14.932 I'm really excited today because I am joined with my family. 00:00:14.966 --> 00:00:18.232 We have my husband, Jonathan Weiss who is-- 00:00:18.266 --> 00:00:19.700 Jonathan Weiss: I can't believe I'm on the podcast. 00:00:19.733 --> 00:00:21.200 Rebecca: Look at you, already just chiming in. 00:00:21.233 --> 00:00:22.533 Jonathan: I'm so excited to be here. 00:00:22.566 --> 00:00:23.899 Rebecca: I have to give you your intro. 00:00:23.933 --> 00:00:26.466 Jonathan: I don't need an intro. Everyone knows who I am. 00:00:26.500 --> 00:00:28.032 Rebecca: Well, okay, well, we need to give background 00:00:28.066 --> 00:00:29.432 as to why I have you all on 'cause 00:00:29.466 --> 00:00:30.833 it's not just because you're my family. 00:00:30.866 --> 00:00:32.200 Jonathan: Yeah, please set the stage. 00:00:32.233 --> 00:00:35.699 Rebecca: So you are actually Daystar's Israel liaison. 00:00:35.732 --> 00:00:37.100 Jonathan: Correct. 00:00:37.133 --> 00:00:40.266 Rebecca: So you've been working with Israel for years 00:00:40.300 --> 00:00:41.899 and you've been to Israel. 00:00:41.932 --> 00:00:43.800 Give, you know, give your background. 00:00:43.833 --> 00:00:45.499 Jonathan: Well, first of all, I'm Jewish. 00:00:45.533 --> 00:00:48.366 I was born into a family, a Messianic family, 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:52.399 so I grew up in a home that was not only serving Jesus 00:00:52.433 --> 00:00:54.799 but also celebrating the Jewish traditions. 00:00:54.833 --> 00:00:58.099 So we had Shabbat at home, we celebrated Passover and Hanukkah 00:00:58.132 --> 00:00:59.766 and all these different things. 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:03.333 So I grew up with a Jewish identity and, later in life, 00:01:03.366 --> 00:01:05.132 I guess I was how old, 14, when I went to Israel 00:01:05.166 --> 00:01:06.500 for the first time? 00:01:06.533 --> 00:01:08.000 Myles Weiss: Yeah, exactly. 00:01:08.033 --> 00:01:09.766 Jonathan: So when I was 14 and I was in Israel for the 00:01:09.800 --> 00:01:11.499 first time, I remember seeing the IDF soldiers and being, 00:01:11.532 --> 00:01:13.133 like, "I need to be in the IDF. 00:01:13.166 --> 00:01:14.766 That must be my calling," you know? 00:01:14.800 --> 00:01:17.566 Any young boy is gonna see the soldiers with the M16s 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.033 and wanna go and be a part of that and serve in that. 00:01:20.066 --> 00:01:24.299 So, I've had identity and been tied to Israel my whole life. 00:01:24.332 --> 00:01:27.766 Fast forward to now, yes, I've been at Daystar for about 00:01:27.800 --> 00:01:30.833 5 years and been in the role of Israel liaison here, which has 00:01:30.866 --> 00:01:33.699 been incredible as far as just helping strengthen 00:01:33.733 --> 00:01:36.600 the relationship between Daystar, the church, and Israel. 00:01:36.633 --> 00:01:39.599 Rebecca: And we are joined here with the person who was 00:01:39.633 --> 00:01:44.000 foundational in your life and mine as well, our father, my 00:01:44.033 --> 00:01:49.266 father-in-love, Pastor, founder of House of Peace, Myles Weiss. 00:01:49.300 --> 00:01:50.999 Myles: Hi, it's great to be here. 00:01:51.033 --> 00:01:52.866 Rebecca: Okay, give us your background. 00:01:52.900 --> 00:01:56.466 Myles: Okay, so I was born in the old country, New York City, 00:01:56.499 --> 00:01:59.499 and was raised in Hebrew school, 3 days a week, 00:01:59.533 --> 00:02:01.166 bar mitzvahed at 13. 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.000 Grew up--'cause I'm a child of the '50s, I grew up with, right 00:02:05.033 --> 00:02:07.566 after World War II when people still had the tattoos on their 00:02:07.600 --> 00:02:09.700 arms from the death camps. 00:02:09.733 --> 00:02:12.799 So awareness of the Holocaust, awareness of Jewish persecution, 00:02:12.833 --> 00:02:14.666 was kind of natural to us. 00:02:14.699 --> 00:02:17.466 We have a lot of dark gallows humor jokes about it, but the 00:02:17.500 --> 00:02:20.733 reality is that we understood that that was a thing. 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:25.632 So at about 33 years old, I had my magical misery tour 00:02:25.666 --> 00:02:27.733 from my bar mitzvah to 33. 00:02:27.766 --> 00:02:31.999 I met this woman, this beautiful, young, woman 00:02:32.032 --> 00:02:35.533 and she told me at our first cup of coffee that she had recently 00:02:35.566 --> 00:02:37.066 given her life to Jesus. 00:02:37.100 --> 00:02:39.466 And I thought, "I don't even know what that means." 00:02:39.499 --> 00:02:42.099 And she said--by then I was a Hindu Buddhist, 00:02:42.133 --> 00:02:43.666 Bu-Jew we call ourselves. 00:02:43.699 --> 00:02:45.033 I was a Buddhist Jew. 00:02:45.066 --> 00:02:47.333 And she said, "If you were a real seeker you would 00:02:47.366 --> 00:02:49.232 at least look in your own book." 00:02:49.266 --> 00:02:53.032 And that started a series of incredible studies in the Word 00:02:53.066 --> 00:02:57.366 and supernatural intervention by God to get me to realize 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:59.800 that Yeshua, in fact, is the Jewish Messiah. 00:03:00.066 --> 00:03:01.133 You guys 00:03:01.333 --> 00:03:04.266 I feel like, are great to speak into this and there are so many 00:03:04.299 --> 00:03:06.433 narratives out there, there's so much information, 00:03:06.466 --> 00:03:10.099 and I wanna give believers an opportunity to ask questions, 00:03:10.133 --> 00:03:11.699 so people have written in. 00:03:11.732 --> 00:03:13.100 Jonathan: Yeah, let's do those. 00:03:13.133 --> 00:03:15.232 Rebecca: They've asked questions and we're gonna 00:03:15.266 --> 00:03:18.466 talk about this from a biblical perspective 'cause 00:03:18.499 --> 00:03:21.433 you can't just look at this through the physical. 00:03:21.466 --> 00:03:23.400 You have to look into the spiritual and you have to look 00:03:23.433 --> 00:03:26.199 into what the Word of God says, because we, as believers, 00:03:26.233 --> 00:03:28.599 we can't allow the world to dictate our beliefs. 00:03:28.632 --> 00:03:30.366 We have to allow what God and his Word says 00:03:30.399 --> 00:03:31.699 to dictate our beliefs. 00:03:31.733 --> 00:03:33.333 Myles: That's really good. 00:03:33.366 --> 00:03:36.433 If we see the news, we will not understand what we're seeing 00:03:36.466 --> 00:03:39.066 unless we can interpret through the lens of Scripture. 00:03:39.099 --> 00:03:41.266 It's the only way to know what's going on. 00:03:41.299 --> 00:03:42.799 Jonathan: It's cool, as we'll talk about the biblical 00:03:42.832 --> 00:03:44.966 perspective today but it's also important to realize 00:03:44.999 --> 00:03:47.733 that there's a historical and political perspective as well 00:03:47.766 --> 00:03:50.366 that is very legitimate for the nation of Israel, their right to 00:03:50.399 --> 00:03:52.233 exist, the Jewish people that have a homeland, 00:03:52.266 --> 00:03:53.900 and we can get into all that as well, but-- 00:03:53.933 --> 00:03:55.666 Rebecca: And it's so important because we, 00:03:55.699 --> 00:03:57.300 as believers, we have a role to play in this. 00:03:57.333 --> 00:03:58.799 So let's start there. 00:03:58.832 --> 00:04:01.832 What is the believer's role in relation to Israel? 00:04:01.866 --> 00:04:04.899 Jonathan: I love that. Rabbi? 00:04:04.933 --> 00:04:06.266 Rebecca: That's a big question but it's what people 00:04:06.299 --> 00:04:07.733 are asking now because of what's going on. 00:04:07.766 --> 00:04:09.366 Myles: It is a big question and it's shocking and 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.733 disheartening for those of us who have been tracking this 00:04:11.766 --> 00:04:16.800 forever, for our lives, that there's so much residue of 00:04:16.833 --> 00:04:18.732 Christian antisemitism. 00:04:18.766 --> 00:04:21.999 It's just--it's terrifying to see churches that don't 00:04:22.032 --> 00:04:25.166 understand what they're--they live out of what's called 00:04:25.200 --> 00:04:28.499 replacement theology, meaning that when Jesus went to the 00:04:28.532 --> 00:04:31.633 cross, the Jews were displaced and anything going forward 00:04:31.666 --> 00:04:35.000 from there is the new Israel which is the church. 00:04:35.033 --> 00:04:37.833 Well, that's just not what the Bible says. 00:04:37.866 --> 00:04:40.466 If you read the Bible together, I mean, Jesus said-- 00:04:40.499 --> 00:04:42.233 Jonathan: There you go. 00:04:42.266 --> 00:04:44.233 Myles: --that a disciple of the Word that is schooled 00:04:44.266 --> 00:04:47.033 by heaven brings--is like a householder 00:04:47.066 --> 00:04:49.666 who brings forth treasures old and new. 00:04:49.699 --> 00:04:52.099 In other words, we need to recognize that these two 00:04:52.132 --> 00:04:55.366 Testaments are one long love story, and it doesn't begin 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.033 at the cross; it begins before eternity, you know, begins 00:04:58.066 --> 00:05:02.066 in eternity, but that it's a long love story that's centered 00:05:02.099 --> 00:05:05.966 around his chosen people and, through the chosen people, 00:05:05.999 --> 00:05:07.833 the Messiah came, hallelujah. 00:05:07.866 --> 00:05:09.799 And then this long love story. 00:05:09.833 --> 00:05:13.366 Now, he never turns away from the Jewish people. 00:05:13.400 --> 00:05:16.533 We have rebelled, we've lost our way, we come back. 00:05:16.566 --> 00:05:18.600 We go--you know, we've just been like children 00:05:18.633 --> 00:05:20.200 who have gone astray. 00:05:20.233 --> 00:05:23.699 But he has never stopped loving, he's never stopped--he's never 00:05:23.732 --> 00:05:27.232 went--gone back on his promises to the Jewish people, to Israel. 00:05:27.266 --> 00:05:30.199 So if you start there, then you start to understand 00:05:30.232 --> 00:05:33.933 all this conflict because the God of this world, Satan, 00:05:33.966 --> 00:05:35.400 hates what God loves. 00:05:35.433 --> 00:05:38.266 God loves the Jewish people, God has promised the Jewish people 00:05:38.300 --> 00:05:40.566 all these things, a land and a people. 00:05:40.599 --> 00:05:43.333 He promised to Abraham so, of course, Satan hates that. 00:05:43.366 --> 00:05:45.732 That's why we see Pharaoh killing the young ones, we see 00:05:45.766 --> 00:05:48.099 Herod killing the young ones, trying to prevent the coming of 00:05:48.132 --> 00:05:51.499 Messiah, but also, going forward, we see the other 00:05:51.532 --> 00:05:54.499 villains of history, like Hitler, trying to kill the 00:05:54.532 --> 00:05:57.133 Jewish people to prevent the return of the Lord, because 00:05:57.166 --> 00:06:01.199 Jesus is coming back not to Davos, not to D.C., 00:06:01.233 --> 00:06:02.599 not even to Dallas. 00:06:02.632 --> 00:06:04.166 He's coming back to Jerusalem. 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.466 And so the attack against the Jewish people 00:06:06.499 --> 00:06:08.333 is always below the surface. 00:06:08.366 --> 00:06:11.233 If you grow up with these things and you grow up in proximity 00:06:11.266 --> 00:06:13.800 to the Nazi Holocaust, you understand that. 00:06:13.833 --> 00:06:16.933 But now it's shocking to see so much happening, right? 00:06:16.966 --> 00:06:20.033 The--you sent me a video where this replacement theology 00:06:20.066 --> 00:06:23.166 is being pitched in a very seductive way to Christians. 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:24.633 Rebecca: A more covert way. 00:06:24.666 --> 00:06:26.132 Myles: Much more covert. 00:06:26.166 --> 00:06:29.399 But using those same verses, but using them in a way to say 00:06:29.433 --> 00:06:31.266 there was never a promise of land. 00:06:31.299 --> 00:06:33.566 It's always been about a heavenly kingdom only. 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:37.299 Therefore, life begins only at the cross and has nothing to do 00:06:37.332 --> 00:06:39.032 with the promises to Abraham. 00:06:39.066 --> 00:06:40.799 But that's not the whole counsel of God. 00:06:40.832 --> 00:06:43.166 Rebecca: And it's so important that we address this 00:06:43.200 --> 00:06:46.066 because it is confusing for believers who might not 00:06:46.100 --> 00:06:48.166 understand the history and the backstory. 00:06:48.200 --> 00:06:53.933 Can you speak to some of the specific misconceptions 00:06:53.966 --> 00:06:57.099 that replacement theology tells believers and the Scriptures 00:06:57.132 --> 00:06:59.833 they use, so believers can understand how to debunk that? 00:06:59.866 --> 00:07:02.199 Myles: Well, it's really--it's really quite sad, 00:07:02.232 --> 00:07:05.233 but even the church fathers who were revered and taught in every 00:07:05.266 --> 00:07:09.166 Bible college, they had within them a virulent antisemitism, 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:13.299 so this notion of--and you could go back to Constantine becoming 00:07:13.332 --> 00:07:17.533 a Christian in 325 AD and the divorcing at that time 00:07:17.566 --> 00:07:19.599 from the Jewish feasts and the Jewish customs 00:07:19.632 --> 00:07:22.133 and officially making it a new thing. 00:07:22.166 --> 00:07:24.033 That's not what Paul taught. 00:07:24.066 --> 00:07:25.866 That's not what was going on in the early church. 00:07:25.899 --> 00:07:27.499 The early church, of course, was all Jewish 00:07:27.533 --> 00:07:29.799 and we let the guys in. 00:07:29.833 --> 00:07:31.566 Myles: But the idea is this that, you know, if--in all of 00:07:31.599 --> 00:07:34.200 the Messianic things, if we don't keep Yeshua central, 00:07:34.233 --> 00:07:35.866 we've missed the point. 00:07:35.900 --> 00:07:37.999 Because the most Jewish thing we can do is follow Jesus. 00:07:38.032 --> 00:07:41.566 Rebecca: And what's so important is God does not go 00:07:41.599 --> 00:07:44.633 back on his promises and if we believe that as believers, 00:07:44.666 --> 00:07:47.200 how can we believe that our salvation is secure, that he 00:07:47.233 --> 00:07:49.066 keeps his promises with us. 00:07:49.099 --> 00:07:52.132 So that's a very important thing that we challenge this teaching 00:07:52.166 --> 00:07:55.799 because God did make a covenant with Israel, with the people, 00:07:55.833 --> 00:07:57.132 with the land. 00:07:57.166 --> 00:07:58.466 Can you speak to the different covenants 00:07:58.500 --> 00:08:00.299 that God made with Israel? 00:08:00.332 --> 00:08:01.666 Myles: Absolutely. 00:08:01.699 --> 00:08:05.966 What, you know, what I say is that if this book is the story 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:10.266 of God's promise-keeping to the children of Abraham, and if he 00:08:10.299 --> 00:08:14.299 can gather us again, after 2000 years of disbursement, 00:08:14.333 --> 00:08:18.166 since disbursing, since 70 AD, if he can regather us 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.132 into the land which he has done. 00:08:20.166 --> 00:08:23.466 It's not a political thing, it's not a colonization thing. 00:08:23.499 --> 00:08:26.166 It's God's promise to Abraham. 00:08:26.200 --> 00:08:27.966 Jonathan: And he talked about it through Isaiah: 00:08:27.999 --> 00:08:29.633 "Can a nation be born in a day?" 00:08:29.666 --> 00:08:31.500 So he told us about it way before he did it. 00:08:31.533 --> 00:08:34.333 Rebecca: It was God's prophetic working. 00:08:34.366 --> 00:08:37.232 Myles: Yeah, Isaiah 66:8, which we preach at Qumran all 00:08:37.266 --> 00:08:39.366 the time because that's where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, 00:08:39.400 --> 00:08:42.166 proving that the same Isaiah we have in this book is 00:08:42.199 --> 00:08:45.032 the one that was found, that was written 800 years before Jesus. 00:08:45.066 --> 00:08:47.066 Same Bible, same book, same story. 00:08:47.100 --> 00:08:53.033 So if he can bring a nation to be born in a day, May 14, 1948, 00:08:53.066 --> 00:08:54.866 that's a fulfillment of the Word. 00:08:54.899 --> 00:08:58.866 That means that his promises to you and to you and to me 00:08:58.900 --> 00:09:01.266 and to the entire church, are valid. 00:09:01.299 --> 00:09:03.199 And we need to see that. 00:09:03.233 --> 00:09:05.266 We need to see that this is a promise over the land 00:09:05.300 --> 00:09:06.632 and a people. 00:09:06.666 --> 00:09:09.833 You know, in Jeremiah 31, he talks about how "if the stars 00:09:09.866 --> 00:09:13.399 and the moon go away, when the sky goes away, when 00:09:13.432 --> 00:09:15.932 there's no longer that which I have set in the firmament, 00:09:15.966 --> 00:09:18.166 that's when my Jewish people will end." 00:09:18.199 --> 00:09:22.833 In other words, "I will always have my natural seed with me. 00:09:22.866 --> 00:09:24.232 I will always have the Jewish people." 00:09:24.266 --> 00:09:27.399 And then he says in Amos 9:15 that 00:09:27.432 --> 00:09:29.399 "I will plant you in the land. 00:09:29.433 --> 00:09:31.933 I will gather you from all the nations," not just Babylon, 00:09:31.966 --> 00:09:34.133 not just Persia, but from all the nations, 00:09:34.166 --> 00:09:36.099 which should only be the 20th century." 00:09:36.133 --> 00:09:38.732 I will gather you from all the nations and I will plant you 00:09:38.766 --> 00:09:41.099 in the land never to be uprooted again." 00:09:41.132 --> 00:09:42.599 And that's where we are in time. 00:09:42.632 --> 00:09:45.533 That's why this little nation has been on the headlines 00:09:45.566 --> 00:09:48.266 for 75 years because it's God's land 00:09:48.300 --> 00:09:50.633 Jonathan: And the verse that, "sprinkling with new water," 00:09:50.666 --> 00:09:52.832 you've gotta say that one because that's a great story." 00:09:52.866 --> 00:09:56.133 Myles: What's important, because there are groups of 00:09:56.166 --> 00:09:59.599 people, even some ultra-orthodox Jews who believe they're camping 00:09:59.632 --> 00:10:02.100 in Israel because Mashiach hasn't come 'cause they don't 00:10:02.133 --> 00:10:03.433 know it's Jesus, right? 00:10:03.466 --> 00:10:05.133 So they think, "Well, it's an ungodly nation." 00:10:05.166 --> 00:10:08.666 Hello, yes, you know, it's mostly a secular nation and 00:10:08.699 --> 00:10:10.599 most--many of the people that came through the Holocaust 00:10:10.632 --> 00:10:12.766 came through as atheists because where was God? 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:15.666 So there's a lot of drama and a lot of trauma involved 00:10:15.699 --> 00:10:17.299 in the rebirth of the land. 00:10:17.332 --> 00:10:21.433 But what he says is, "First, I'll bring you to the land, and 00:10:21.466 --> 00:10:25.066 then I'll sprinkle clear--clean water on you," which is why 00:10:25.099 --> 00:10:28.299 what you guys are doing here is so important because you're 00:10:28.333 --> 00:10:30.766 supporting the Messianic body, and they're the front lines 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:33.033 of the spiritual war. 00:10:33.066 --> 00:10:34.733 Jonathan: And I remember when I quoted that verse to my dad 00:10:34.766 --> 00:10:36.766 when I convinced him that I was gonna move to Israel to join 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:38.800 the army, and he said, "Well, there you go, 00:10:38.833 --> 00:10:41.432 my little watering hose off to Israel." 00:10:41.466 --> 00:10:43.199 Myles: I don't remember that, but I believe you. 00:10:43.232 --> 00:10:45.699 Rebecca: I love that. Jonathan: Yeah. 00:10:46.533 --> 00:10:48.466 Rebecca: The other thing that's talked about in Scripture 00:10:48.499 --> 00:10:51.299 is in Ezekiel where it says: "Can these dry bones live?" 00:10:51.333 --> 00:10:53.966 And first, he gathers the dry bones together, 00:10:53.999 --> 00:10:55.966 then he breathes life. 00:10:55.999 --> 00:10:58.699 And that's another picture of Israel. 00:10:58.732 --> 00:11:01.800 First he gathers them together but they're not alive yet 00:11:01.833 --> 00:11:04.166 and he says, "Can these dry bones live?" 00:11:04.199 --> 00:11:06.366 And he says, "Yes," and he breathes his life. 00:11:06.400 --> 00:11:07.699 And that's also a prophetic picture. 00:11:07.732 --> 00:11:09.099 Myles: Absolutely. 00:11:09.132 --> 00:11:11.066 Rebecca: And so this is why we need to talk about 00:11:11.099 --> 00:11:14.532 this because God has a plan and a purpose. 00:11:14.566 --> 00:11:18.266 He did thousands of years ago and he still has a purpose now, 00:11:18.300 --> 00:11:22.400 and we can't count Israel out and so when we understand God's 00:11:22.433 --> 00:11:25.833 prophetic plan and his heart and his covenant and his promises, 00:11:25.866 --> 00:11:29.099 everything recorded in Scripture, we as believers 00:11:29.132 --> 00:11:32.132 can be supportive of what God is doing. 00:11:32.166 --> 00:11:33.833 Myles: Exactly. 00:11:33.866 --> 00:11:35.266 Jonathan: Not only can we not count Israel out, 00:11:35.300 --> 00:11:37.866 but it's central to the plan, and so it's--without Israel, 00:11:37.899 --> 00:11:39.299 there is no plan. 00:11:39.333 --> 00:11:40.732 It's crazy, but it's true. 00:11:40.766 --> 00:11:42.132 Rebecca: It all hinges on Israel. 00:11:42.166 --> 00:11:43.499 It's that important. 00:11:43.533 --> 00:11:45.066 Jonathan: It's his story. 00:11:45.099 --> 00:11:46.766 He had to choose a people, he had to cut covenant with 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:49.166 the people because he couldn't send his Son just willy-nilly. 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:51.766 It had to come through--lineage had to come through a people. 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:53.299 So Jesus himself said, "I have not come 00:11:53.332 --> 00:11:55.033 but for the people of Israel." 00:11:55.066 --> 00:11:57.199 Even when he was--you just shared this story with me 00:11:57.233 --> 00:11:58.566 on the couch. 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:00.732 Rebecca: The Phoenician woman came 'cause her daughter was 00:12:00.766 --> 00:12:02.866 demon-possessed, a--from reading the Gospels, 00:12:02.899 --> 00:12:05.933 and he said, "Woman, I've come for the House of Israel." 00:12:05.966 --> 00:12:07.832 Myles: "The lost sheep of the House of Israel." 00:12:07.866 --> 00:12:09.499 Jonathan: Yeah, he was very clear. 00:12:09.533 --> 00:12:12.966 Rebecca: He had been sent by the Father directly to Israel. 00:12:12.999 --> 00:12:14.833 We get grafted in later. 00:12:14.866 --> 00:12:16.666 Now, it's not that God doesn't love us, 00:12:16.700 --> 00:12:19.500 but he had a specific plan and purpose. 00:12:19.533 --> 00:12:21.866 Myles: And that's an important part of the story 00:12:21.899 --> 00:12:23.699 is that there's no caste system here. 00:12:23.732 --> 00:12:25.099 It's not like, Big Jew, Little Gentile. 00:12:25.133 --> 00:12:26.433 That's not how this works. 00:12:26.466 --> 00:12:27.799 In my case, you know, I understand. 00:12:27.832 --> 00:12:30.166 Jonathan: You're different. You have your stature. 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:33.399 Myles: But the idea is that he makes us--he makes the two one. 00:12:33.432 --> 00:12:36.433 That's what happens and what he revels in, what he loves, 00:12:36.466 --> 00:12:39.099 what he's celebrating over us, is the worshiping 00:12:39.132 --> 00:12:42.633 of the true God by Jew and Gentile together. 00:12:42.666 --> 00:12:45.632 You know, that's his heart because he loves all nations. 00:12:45.666 --> 00:12:47.099 He's not willing that any should perish, 00:12:47.133 --> 00:12:48.633 but all come to everlasting life. 00:12:48.666 --> 00:12:51.933 Older brother Peter said that in his letters, you know, 00:12:51.966 --> 00:12:54.499 that God is not slack concerning his promise. 00:12:54.533 --> 00:12:56.366 He's not slow in what he's doing. 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.433 He's doing it on purpose so as many as possible have time 00:12:59.466 --> 00:13:01.599 to say--to repent is the word used. 00:13:01.633 --> 00:13:05.566 To turn to him, to, you know, to come to the--to the Romans 9 00:13:05.566 --> 00:13:09.766 passage he was speaking of, say, "God has not--he's not rescinded 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:11.666 his promises to Israel." 00:13:11.700 --> 00:13:15.133 And if you go through that, you come to Romans 11:25-26, 00:13:15.166 --> 00:13:18.566 which says that "the Gentiles are to provoke us to jealousy. 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:20.600 When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, when 00:13:20.633 --> 00:13:23.333 the right number of people and the right awareness, 00:13:23.366 --> 00:13:26.066 the right illumination, the right reflection, the right 00:13:26.099 --> 00:13:29.066 understanding of God's way, when that comes to fullness, 00:13:29.099 --> 00:13:32.666 then we will come to know and then all Israel will be saved. 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:35.466 So it's very important for us that you-- 00:13:35.499 --> 00:13:36.799 let me give you an example. 00:13:36.832 --> 00:13:38.199 This is important. 00:13:38.232 --> 00:13:39.766 We used to--we've been taking trips to Israel forever. 00:13:39.800 --> 00:13:41.466 We've led about 40 tours. 00:13:41.500 --> 00:13:44.399 And used to be that the shopkeepers, when they'd see me, 00:13:44.432 --> 00:13:46.499 the Jew with all these Christians, they would say-- 00:13:46.532 --> 00:13:48.666 they can read me like a book. 00:13:48.700 --> 00:13:51.366 When they see me with them, they'd say--they'd look at my 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:53.833 groups and they'd say, "Agh, the Notzrim are here." 00:13:53.866 --> 00:13:56.132 Notzrim is the plural for Notzri. 00:13:56.166 --> 00:13:57.899 Notzri is the shoot. 00:13:57.933 --> 00:14:00.866 It's where we get the shoot out of a dry ground in Isaiah 53, 00:14:00.900 --> 00:14:04.166 it's where we get Nazarite, where we get Nazareth. 00:14:04.199 --> 00:14:05.999 All of those things having to do with the Nazarene, 00:14:06.033 --> 00:14:07.533 is the shoots. 00:14:07.566 --> 00:14:08.866 So you guys are the shoots. 00:14:08.899 --> 00:14:10.533 We're the roots, you're the shoots, right? 00:14:10.566 --> 00:14:12.300 And so they used to say--'cause the modern word 00:14:12.333 --> 00:14:14.299 for a Christian is the Notzrim, the shoots. 00:14:14.332 --> 00:14:15.633 You're the shoots. 00:14:15.666 --> 00:14:16.999 Rebecca: I like that. 00:14:17.032 --> 00:14:18.599 Myles: So they would look at the--"Agh, the Notzrim are 00:14:18.632 --> 00:14:22.366 here," but now, because of what's happening in the world, 00:14:22.400 --> 00:14:26.033 and because of the progression of evil, and because of the 00:14:26.066 --> 00:14:30.833 heartache and the pressure that's on the Jewish people, now 00:14:30.866 --> 00:14:34.833 when they see you, when they see the Christians coming, they say, 00:14:34.866 --> 00:14:40.833 "Ah, the Notzrim are here," because they recognize that 00:14:40.866 --> 00:14:43.733 Bible-believing Christians are our only friends in the world. 00:14:43.766 --> 00:14:45.232 Rebecca: That's so powerful. 00:14:45.266 --> 00:14:48.566 And see, we are modeling God's love to them, 00:14:48.599 --> 00:14:51.132 by showing support and being there. 00:14:51.166 --> 00:14:56.666 And going back to this history of persecution of the Jewish 00:14:56.700 --> 00:15:00.733 people, antisemitism, you know, when God chose a people, 00:15:00.766 --> 00:15:03.566 he chose a nation, he chose a land, you know, to bring forth 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:07.800 the Messiah and this entire plan and destiny and purpose, 00:15:07.833 --> 00:15:10.566 that put a target on Israel's back. 00:15:10.599 --> 00:15:15.066 And so when we look at the intense persecution and 00:15:15.100 --> 00:15:19.566 execution, you know, trying to wipe the Jewish people out, 00:15:19.599 --> 00:15:22.266 multiple times, not, you know, the Holocaust is the most recent 00:15:22.299 --> 00:15:25.566 one, you know, we can think of, but if you study--if anyone 00:15:25.599 --> 00:15:27.966 studied the history, there's been multiple things. 00:15:27.999 --> 00:15:30.266 It's really a miracle that the Jewish people are still here. 00:15:30.300 --> 00:15:31.666 Jonathan: For sure. 00:15:31.699 --> 00:15:34.533 Rebecca: And so what--so what I'm trying to say is, 00:15:34.566 --> 00:15:37.766 is that when Christians study this history and they see this 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:40.399 intense persecution, they can look at it through a 00:15:40.433 --> 00:15:43.232 supernatural lens and understand that this is an attack of the 00:15:43.266 --> 00:15:46.933 enemy, trying to wipe them out and understanding would you say 00:15:46.966 --> 00:15:52.000 that antisemitism and antichrist spirit are similar veins? 00:15:52.033 --> 00:15:54.399 Myles: Absolutely the same thing, because it's ultimately, 00:15:54.433 --> 00:15:57.833 I mean, I love that we're at the forefront, but you know what? 00:15:57.866 --> 00:15:59.799 It's not about the Jewish people. 00:15:59.833 --> 00:16:02.099 It's about the God of the Jewish people. 00:16:02.132 --> 00:16:03.433 Jonathan: Correct. 00:16:03.466 --> 00:16:06.333 Myles: And the assault, think about the assault against 00:16:06.366 --> 00:16:09.166 the Jewish people, I mean, you have the Inquisition, 00:16:09.199 --> 00:16:12.866 the Crusades, the Pogroms in Europe, and then the Holocaust. 00:16:12.899 --> 00:16:15.999 Not to mention all the minor skirmishes around the world. 00:16:16.032 --> 00:16:17.799 There's nothing minor in death but you understand. 00:16:17.833 --> 00:16:19.900 It's been ongoing. Why? 00:16:19.933 --> 00:16:21.833 Because Satan is behind it. 00:16:21.866 --> 00:16:24.033 And Satan hates what God loves. 00:16:24.066 --> 00:16:27.566 So because God loves the Jewish people and the Christian people, 00:16:27.599 --> 00:16:32.766 this assault comes upon us and it's absolutely vital that we 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.266 stand together at this time. 00:16:34.299 --> 00:16:36.099 Rebecca: And you referenced something earlier and I want you 00:16:36.132 --> 00:16:38.266 to speak to this, which is the one new man. 00:16:38.300 --> 00:16:42.000 How God is going to bring and Yeshua, Gentiles and Jewish 00:16:42.033 --> 00:16:43.800 people together and make them one new man. 00:16:43.833 --> 00:16:45.766 Speak to that. Jonathan: He is doing. 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:47.533 He has done it. Myles: Say it. 00:16:47.566 --> 00:16:50.033 Jonathan: You say it. 00:16:50.066 --> 00:16:51.933 Why do you think we brought you here? 00:16:51.966 --> 00:16:53.766 Myles: Well, it's a signature passage 00:16:53.800 --> 00:16:55.266 for Katharine and myself. 00:16:55.299 --> 00:16:58.332 It has been since-- Jonathan: I like that, "Say it." 00:16:58.366 --> 00:17:01.999 Myles: So I'd just found out that my wife was a Gentile. 00:17:02.033 --> 00:17:03.366 Jonathan: What! 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:05.500 Myles: I'm joking. Jonathan: All this time. 00:17:05.533 --> 00:17:08.999 Myles: So Jew and Gentile together is something 00:17:09.032 --> 00:17:11.533 that we see pictured in the book of Ruth. 00:17:11.566 --> 00:17:14.099 We see the Moabitess who was outside of the covenants, 00:17:14.133 --> 00:17:16.866 the people were cursed by God, all this negativity, 00:17:16.899 --> 00:17:18.499 and what does God do? 00:17:18.533 --> 00:17:22.933 He brings the Gentile girl into the lineage of Jesus himself. 00:17:22.966 --> 00:17:27.366 Because God loves all people equally, right? 00:17:27.399 --> 00:17:30.499 But he has a priority to the Jewish people because of his 00:17:30.533 --> 00:17:33.533 prophetic working out of history which is his story. 00:17:33.566 --> 00:17:39.066 And so, we see that, that the one new man, so called, some-- 00:17:39.099 --> 00:17:42.999 I have an attorney friend in Israel and she's post-feminist, 00:17:43.032 --> 00:17:44.599 she's a great gal. 00:17:44.632 --> 00:17:46.233 She calls it one new humanity. 00:17:46.266 --> 00:17:47.699 It's okay with me. 00:17:47.733 --> 00:17:53.166 What, you know, this idea that although the Word was given 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.633 to us and that's why--and my wife's, okay, your mom's 00:17:55.666 --> 00:17:57.699 evangelization program. 00:17:57.733 --> 00:17:59.266 Here's how she goes. 00:17:59.299 --> 00:18:01.166 She meets Jewish people, she says: "I just wanna thank you." 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:02.899 And they go, "What?" 00:18:02.933 --> 00:18:04.433 "I just wanna thank you." 00:18:04.466 --> 00:18:06.766 "Okay, what for?" 00:18:06.800 --> 00:18:08.899 "Well, I wanna thank you for the Bible, 00:18:08.932 --> 00:18:10.866 I wanna thank you for the patriarchs. 00:18:10.899 --> 00:18:12.933 I wanna thank you for the prophets. 00:18:12.966 --> 00:18:15.333 I wanna thank you for the Psalms and the Proverbs and the wisdom 00:18:15.366 --> 00:18:18.333 books and, most of all, I wanna thank you for the Jewish Messiah 00:18:18.366 --> 00:18:20.199 who I call Jesus." 00:18:20.233 --> 00:18:22.966 And by then, the person's crying. 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.799 They don't know why, but they just had an encounter 00:18:25.833 --> 00:18:30.466 with the love story that is fulfilled in Jesus, in Yeshua. 00:18:30.499 --> 00:18:32.366 It comes through this, you know, 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.132 beautiful person who's just loving them. 00:18:35.166 --> 00:18:38.566 So the one new man, one new humanity, is the heart of God 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:42.300 that the nations of the world, together with the Israelis, with 00:18:42.333 --> 00:18:45.699 the Jewish people, would worship him and Yeshua, forego 00:18:45.732 --> 00:18:49.299 worshiping everything else, which is what we tend to do. 00:18:49.332 --> 00:18:51.233 Jonathan: And that's a good answer to the question that you 00:18:51.266 --> 00:18:54.466 asked earlier: what--how can people combat antisemitism 00:18:54.500 --> 00:18:56.933 or stand with Israel that are Christians? 00:18:56.966 --> 00:19:00.466 The Katharine Weiss Evangelistic Plan is the answer, 00:19:00.500 --> 00:19:02.266 is you just do it in love. 00:19:02.300 --> 00:19:04.599 You understand that-- Rebecca: An honor. 00:19:04.632 --> 00:19:06.333 Jonathan: You don't--you may not understand everything about 00:19:06.366 --> 00:19:07.966 Scripture, you may not understand everything about 00:19:07.999 --> 00:19:11.299 God's plan, but you trust him, you believe him, and you live 00:19:11.332 --> 00:19:13.032 out what he's called us to do, 00:19:13.066 --> 00:19:16.232 which is for us to be one new man. 00:19:16.266 --> 00:19:18.766 Rebecca: And to bless the nation of Israel and pray 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:20.232 for the peace of Jerusalem. 00:19:20.266 --> 00:19:23.466 Prayer is another big one that we can do if we 00:19:23.499 --> 00:19:25.199 might not be over there, but we can pray here. 00:19:25.232 --> 00:19:26.599 Jonathan: Even if you don't understand, to start praying 00:19:26.632 --> 00:19:29.200 for Jerusalem, start praying for the nation of Israel, start 00:19:29.233 --> 00:19:32.400 praying that God's people would have their veil come down 00:19:32.433 --> 00:19:34.466 and they would understand who their Messiah is. 00:19:34.499 --> 00:19:35.933 You can pray for these things. 00:19:35.966 --> 00:19:38.200 May not fully understand them or fully comprehend them, 00:19:38.233 --> 00:19:40.099 but still pray 'em because they're in Scripture. 00:19:40.133 --> 00:19:41.432 You can't go wrong. 00:19:41.466 --> 00:19:43.066 Rebecca: And you just ask God to share his heart with you 00:19:43.099 --> 00:19:46.232 for Israel, for his people, and he will download that to you and 00:19:46.266 --> 00:19:48.700 connect those Scriptures and open your eyes and it--I mean, 00:19:48.733 --> 00:19:50.433 I went through that journey. 00:19:50.466 --> 00:19:52.166 Jonathan: Even you, I was gonna say, even you, when I met 00:19:52.199 --> 00:19:54.799 you, you were pro-Israel and you, you know, but I've seen you 00:19:54.832 --> 00:19:59.733 go from pro-Israel but just intertwine your identity and who 00:19:59.766 --> 00:20:03.166 you are prophetically and who you are as an anointed speaker 00:20:03.199 --> 00:20:05.832 and leader to understanding that a lot of that comes out 00:20:05.866 --> 00:20:08.899 of the Jewish roots and a lot of that is tied to it. 00:20:08.932 --> 00:20:11.866 How many times do I find you on your phone researching out a 00:20:11.900 --> 00:20:14.166 word or a Scripture or a passage and you're going back to 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.566 the Torah portion or you're going back to what rabbis have 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:19.966 commented because it just starts to unravel naturally and 00:20:19.999 --> 00:20:22.166 organically and, of course, you've seen hundreds of cases of 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:25.366 that over the years where people begin to start coming to your 00:20:25.399 --> 00:20:27.433 messages or when you have a Shabbat service 00:20:27.466 --> 00:20:29.999 and they get a glimpse or a taste of what it is 00:20:30.032 --> 00:20:32.466 to be aligned prophetically with God's time. 00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:35.999 Myles: Yeah, I was just thinking, last Sunday ago or so 00:20:36.032 --> 00:20:39.733 I preached two services, and the first service--after the second 00:20:39.766 --> 00:20:42.666 service, this man came to me and he said, "My son," 00:20:42.700 --> 00:20:45.832 who's a computer genius, who's now employed after college, 00:20:45.866 --> 00:20:48.999 "has been getting his news from TikTok and Instagram, 00:20:49.032 --> 00:20:52.533 and so he's on the wrong side of history here," meaning, you 00:20:52.566 --> 00:20:56.066 know, pro-Hamas or just open to Hamas maybe being something 00:20:56.099 --> 00:20:58.733 that it isn't which is a demonic organization. 00:20:58.766 --> 00:21:05.599 And when I showed the map of how small Israel is and how big the 00:21:05.633 --> 00:21:08.900 Muslim world surrounding it is, and I said, "This is not about 00:21:08.933 --> 00:21:12.532 land; this is about the hatred of ancient--ancient hatreds." 00:21:12.566 --> 00:21:17.066 His son told him, between the services, "When I saw that map, 00:21:17.099 --> 00:21:19.899 the scales came off my eyes." 00:21:19.933 --> 00:21:24.666 In other words, he understood that this love story is not 00:21:24.699 --> 00:21:26.866 either/or, but it's both/and. 00:21:26.899 --> 00:21:29.632 It's like God is doing something that only God can do, 00:21:29.666 --> 00:21:30.966 which is make the two one, 00:21:30.999 --> 00:21:33.533 which is the rest of that passage in Ephesians. 00:21:33.566 --> 00:21:36.132 Rebecca: In conjecture to what you're saying, the Bible 00:21:36.166 --> 00:21:39.900 made so much more sense to me when I understood Israel's role 00:21:39.933 --> 00:21:43.899 and purpose and I mean, I feel like the Word of God opened up 00:21:43.933 --> 00:21:47.233 to me and came alive, and it just made so much more sense. 00:21:47.266 --> 00:21:50.432 When I went from this kind of more narrow, evangelical, and 00:21:50.466 --> 00:21:53.766 Old--evangelical raising Old Testament didn't really make 00:21:53.800 --> 00:21:55.599 sense, even the Gospels didn't make sense, but once 00:21:55.633 --> 00:22:00.700 I understood Israel and how Jesus was Jewish and all these 00:22:00.733 --> 00:22:04.666 different aspects, everything, like, God's big plan came before 00:22:04.699 --> 00:22:09.666 me and now it makes so much more sense and you go closer to God. 00:22:09.700 --> 00:22:12.066 Jonathan: Yeah, and it's so much more exciting, because-- 00:22:12.099 --> 00:22:13.799 Rebecca: It's so much more, 'cause we have a purpose. 00:22:13.832 --> 00:22:15.466 Jonathan: You do, and you're looking at it and you're living 00:22:15.500 --> 00:22:16.899 in it and you're saying, "Oh, my gosh, 00:22:16.933 --> 00:22:19.466 I'm living in prophecy fulfilled. 00:22:19.499 --> 00:22:22.066 I'm living in a time where what was written about by the 00:22:22.099 --> 00:22:24.633 prophets is actually happening right before our eyes." 00:22:24.666 --> 00:22:26.232 Rebecca: We're in exciting times. 00:22:26.266 --> 00:22:28.866 Even though it's hard, we're in exciting times as believers 00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:31.566 because we know that we don't have exact dates but we know 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.133 that Yeshua's return is at hand. 00:22:34.166 --> 00:22:35.566 Jonathan: Not too close. 00:22:35.600 --> 00:22:38.866 Myles: I just wanna say that when we take people to Israel 00:22:38.899 --> 00:22:43.633 and they have a Messianic host and the Messianic guide, 00:22:43.666 --> 00:22:47.799 they understand what you're talking about. 00:22:47.832 --> 00:22:50.532 I had--one of the earliest trips we did, I had a pastor from 00:22:50.566 --> 00:22:54.699 a large church with me and he pulled me aside and he--with 00:22:54.733 --> 00:22:56.932 a tear in his eyes. 00:22:56.966 --> 00:23:00.466 He said, "Myles, why wasn't this 35 years ago in seminary? 00:23:00.500 --> 00:23:04.300 Why did I wait my whole Christian life to see this, 00:23:04.333 --> 00:23:06.399 to find this out," because you've heard it said before, 00:23:06.432 --> 00:23:08.833 it's like the Bible goes from low-def to high-def. 00:23:08.866 --> 00:23:10.499 It goes from black and white to color. 00:23:10.533 --> 00:23:13.100 It just becomes alive 'cause you realize, "This is not some 00:23:13.133 --> 00:23:14.900 Sunday School program. 00:23:14.933 --> 00:23:17.899 This is the history of the world, and God's writing it. 00:23:17.933 --> 00:23:19.266 He's written it. 00:23:19.299 --> 00:23:22.233 You know, it's like my spiritual father in Israel, David Davis, 00:23:22.266 --> 00:23:25.733 used to say: "God says it, he does it. 00:23:25.766 --> 00:23:27.133 We need to believe it," you know? 00:23:27.166 --> 00:23:29.000 And it seems so simplistic but it's true. 00:23:29.033 --> 00:23:32.866 If you take everything he says at face value and you realize 00:23:32.900 --> 00:23:36.133 he means what he says, then this kind of opening happens. 00:23:36.166 --> 00:23:38.533 It's revelatory. Rebecca: It's life-changing. 00:23:38.733 --> 00:23:41.833 What happened in Israel, and you might be able to say this better 00:23:41.866 --> 00:23:45.499 than me, but this attack from Hamas, who is a terrorist 00:23:45.532 --> 00:23:48.366 organization, we need to clarify that, 'cause people are kind of 00:23:48.399 --> 00:23:50.466 trying to say otherwise. 00:23:50.499 --> 00:23:54.033 So when Israel was attacked by Hamas on October 7, the last day 00:23:54.066 --> 00:23:57.700 of Feast of Tabernacles, on Shabbat, they attacked 00:23:57.733 --> 00:24:01.799 and more Jewish people were killed on that day 00:24:01.832 --> 00:24:05.233 for the first time since the Holocaust. 00:24:05.266 --> 00:24:08.099 So this was a very big deal. 00:24:08.132 --> 00:24:13.533 So let's talk about what's going on, who is Hamas, 00:24:13.566 --> 00:24:17.233 who is Palestine, Israel, let's just dive into it. 00:24:17.266 --> 00:24:20.932 Myles: So, Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. 00:24:20.966 --> 00:24:24.999 The radical jihadists that really got their traction, 00:24:25.032 --> 00:24:26.366 they've been around for a long, long time, 00:24:26.399 --> 00:24:29.366 but in 1964, Yasser Arafat, 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.133 who was trained--who was an Egyptian, not a Palestinian. 00:24:32.166 --> 00:24:35.999 He was an Egyptian, trained by the KGB, to destabilize 00:24:36.032 --> 00:24:38.032 the Middle East and to come against the West. 00:24:38.066 --> 00:24:41.566 He was raised up by the Communist Party 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:44.566 in the Soviet Union back then. 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:50.332 And he, essentially invented the Palestinian people. 00:24:50.366 --> 00:24:55.532 I used to travel with a ex-PLO terrorist and he--born again 00:24:55.566 --> 00:24:58.133 Christians, and he said: "Mr. Myles, 00:24:58.166 --> 00:25:00.900 the difference between your people and my people: your 00:25:00.933 --> 00:25:04.299 people will talk my head off, my people will take your head off." 00:25:04.332 --> 00:25:08.466 Very dark joke, but what he was saying is that the Jihadi spirit 00:25:08.500 --> 00:25:13.433 that he was raised under was so profound that it was--he said, 00:25:13.466 --> 00:25:16.933 "I went to sleep--in 1967 I went to sleep a Jordanian and woke up 00:25:16.966 --> 00:25:20.533 a Palestinian," because when the British controlled the area, 00:25:20.566 --> 00:25:23.933 after they defeated the Ottoman Turks in 1914 to '18, 00:25:23.966 --> 00:25:26.966 after 400 years of Ottoman Turk rule, Muslim rule, 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.900 the Brits came in and took the land. 00:25:29.933 --> 00:25:33.033 And when they did that, they divided the area 00:25:33.066 --> 00:25:34.732 up into two sections. 00:25:34.766 --> 00:25:37.733 One, a big chunk called Trans-Jordan at the time 00:25:37.766 --> 00:25:40.033 and this little sliver for the Jewish people. 00:25:40.066 --> 00:25:43.199 That Trans-Jordan was the part given to the Arab peoples 00:25:43.232 --> 00:25:44.566 of the area. 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:45.999 There was no Palestine. 00:25:46.032 --> 00:25:47.566 There's never been a Palestinian state. 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.133 There's never been a Palestinian government 00:25:49.166 --> 00:25:51.033 a Palestinian currency, or any of that thing. 00:25:51.066 --> 00:25:54.000 That name, "Palestine," at the end of the 19th century, 00:25:54.033 --> 00:25:56.232 that's what the Jews of the area were called. 00:25:56.266 --> 00:25:58.866 They were Palestinians and their passports were Palestine 00:25:58.899 --> 00:26:00.432 because it was named in one-- 00:26:00.466 --> 00:26:01.866 Jonathan: There was the newspaper. 00:26:01.899 --> 00:26:03.199 Myles: "The Palestine Post." 00:26:03.232 --> 00:26:04.533 Rebecca: Wait, so who came up with it? 00:26:04.566 --> 00:26:05.866 Myles: I will tell you. 00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:10.899 In 135 AD, when the Bar Kokhba revolution came up to defeat 00:26:10.932 --> 00:26:14.499 Romans, the Romans--it took them years to put this Jewish revolt 00:26:14.532 --> 00:26:18.899 down and when they did finally squash it in 135 AD, they 00:26:18.932 --> 00:26:22.833 renamed the area of Judea, Palestina, in order-- 00:26:22.866 --> 00:26:25.433 Jonathan: Syria-Palestina? Myles: Yes. 00:26:25.466 --> 00:26:28.199 As a means of insulting the Jews because it was--sounded like 00:26:28.232 --> 00:26:31.200 the Philistines, the oldest Jewish enemies in the area. 00:26:31.233 --> 00:26:32.766 Jonathan: It's a insult. 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.533 Myles: So it was an insult based on putting down 00:26:35.566 --> 00:26:37.333 the Jews at that time. 00:26:37.366 --> 00:26:40.766 But what's important there is that the Jews were there. 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:42.266 The Jews were there going back-- 00:26:42.299 --> 00:26:43.899 Jonathan: They were living there already. 00:26:43.932 --> 00:26:45.366 Myles: They were--you know, we'd been there forever, I mean-- 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:46.933 Jonathan: Since it was the Promised Land. 00:26:46.966 --> 00:26:51.800 Myles: 3000 BC--excuse me, 1000 BC, 3000 years ago, 00:26:51.833 --> 00:26:55.600 King David unified the country and called it Israel, and it was 00:26:55.633 --> 00:26:58.899 a nation with all of the things that go with a nation. 00:26:58.932 --> 00:27:01.266 So the history of the Jews being there is being rewritten and 00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:05.599 rewritten and revisionist history has become so much in 00:27:05.633 --> 00:27:09.366 the narrative and, if our world, where no one reads and no one 00:27:09.399 --> 00:27:12.366 studies, they get all their news from CNN-- 00:27:12.399 --> 00:27:13.833 Jonathan: TikTok. 00:27:13.866 --> 00:27:16.299 Myles: We say, Certainly Not the News, CNN. 00:27:16.332 --> 00:27:18.399 If you get your news from there you're not gonna know 00:27:18.432 --> 00:27:19.733 what is going on. 00:27:19.766 --> 00:27:21.199 That's why we need this. 00:27:21.232 --> 00:27:23.733 And archeology and true history. 00:27:23.766 --> 00:27:26.766 Rebecca: So the Romans named the area "Palestine." 00:27:26.800 --> 00:27:30.033 The Jewish people never left, so this notion that these Jewish 00:27:30.066 --> 00:27:32.632 people just started coming back there. 00:27:32.666 --> 00:27:34.199 Myles: After World War II. 00:27:34.232 --> 00:27:35.700 Jonathan: There was always a presence. 00:27:35.733 --> 00:27:37.933 Rebecca: There is always a presence of Jewish people there. 00:27:37.966 --> 00:27:42.133 And the Palestinian people, so the place was called Palestine 00:27:42.166 --> 00:27:44.333 because of the Romans, but the concept of the Palestinian 00:27:44.366 --> 00:27:46.966 people came from Yasser Arafat. 00:27:46.999 --> 00:27:48.566 Myles: Much later. 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:50.499 Rebecca: And who was Yasser Arafat? 00:27:50.533 --> 00:27:52.199 Myles: So he was the--we call him 00:27:52.232 --> 00:27:54.400 the father of modern terrorism. 00:27:54.433 --> 00:27:55.799 He was-- 00:27:55.833 --> 00:27:58.833 Jonathan: Not a good dinner guest. 00:27:58.866 --> 00:28:02.166 Myles: He was, like I said, trained in order to destabilize 00:28:02.199 --> 00:28:05.866 the Middle East in the favor of the USSR but also they 00:28:05.900 --> 00:28:09.799 marshaled many of the motifs of the era, 00:28:09.832 --> 00:28:11.999 the post Martin Luther King era. 00:28:12.032 --> 00:28:14.866 In 1968 Martin Luther King was killed, but if you go back 00:28:14.899 --> 00:28:18.399 and listen to him, he says with--undoubtedly, he says, 00:28:18.433 --> 00:28:23.133 "Take--make no mistake about it, anti-Zionism is antisemitism. 00:28:23.166 --> 00:28:26.366 He understood the Jewish people which, by the way, which one of 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:29.832 the heartaches of this for some of us, is that it was the Jews 00:28:29.866 --> 00:28:32.033 who stood with the civil rights movement. 00:28:32.066 --> 00:28:35.632 It was Jewish attorneys, Jewish students, and Jewish media 00:28:35.666 --> 00:28:38.700 people that marched with Martin Luther King, Jr. 00:28:38.733 --> 00:28:42.266 So we've always had this incredible connection 00:28:42.299 --> 00:28:45.599 with each other as oppressed peoples, right? 00:28:45.633 --> 00:28:50.666 And to see that narrative stolen and rewritten and reworked so 00:28:50.699 --> 00:28:53.699 that now the Jews are white colonizers from Europe 00:28:53.732 --> 00:28:56.799 instead of being indigenous people of every color. 00:28:56.833 --> 00:28:58.566 And if you go to Israel, as you know, you've been there, 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:00.032 we come in every color. 00:29:00.066 --> 00:29:02.533 I mean, we are in every nation, we come in every color except 00:29:02.566 --> 00:29:04.699 the--some of the Muslim nations we've been kicked out of, 00:29:04.733 --> 00:29:06.900 but in general we're everywhere in the world. 00:29:06.933 --> 00:29:09.233 Jonathan: Black, brown, yellow, we've got all the colors. 00:29:09.266 --> 00:29:11.300 Myles: We do. We're Benetton. 00:29:11.333 --> 00:29:13.033 Rebecca: And so you're saying Martin Luther King, Jr. 00:29:13.066 --> 00:29:14.799 said to be anti-- 00:29:14.833 --> 00:29:17.633 Myles: Zionist is to be antisemitic, because they-- 00:29:17.666 --> 00:29:19.099 Rebecca: Yeah, I don't think anyone's quoting that right now. 00:29:19.133 --> 00:29:21.033 Myles: No, I do all the time, but--and here's the point. 00:29:21.066 --> 00:29:25.800 That they--that was very intentional was to make, 00:29:25.833 --> 00:29:29.066 "Oh, I'm not anti-Jewish, I'm just anti-Israel." 00:29:29.099 --> 00:29:34.066 Okay, we have 0.2% of the population, 00:29:34.099 --> 00:29:36.199 there's only 15 million Jews in the world. 00:29:36.233 --> 00:29:38.333 We have a little sliver of land, as you've heard it said, 00:29:38.366 --> 00:29:39.699 smaller than New Jersey. 00:29:39.733 --> 00:29:43.899 And so, and it's surrounded by millions of square miles of 00:29:43.932 --> 00:29:49.332 Muslim land so we are oppressing and moving out and taking over? 00:29:49.366 --> 00:29:51.433 The Rambo, the Giant Jew? 00:29:51.466 --> 00:29:52.966 I don't think so. 00:29:52.999 --> 00:29:54.366 Jonathan: Well, I think it's--I just think this is 00:29:54.399 --> 00:29:56.532 important because back in 19--so 00:29:56.566 --> 00:29:58.099 when did Theodor Herzl start the-- 00:29:58.133 --> 00:29:59.799 Myles: The end of the 19th century. 00:29:59.833 --> 00:30:01.799 Jonathan: The end of the 19th century is when real--the Hebrew 00:30:01.832 --> 00:30:04.466 language starts to become rebirthed, right? 00:30:04.499 --> 00:30:06.733 So it was dormant for how many years? 00:30:06.766 --> 00:30:09.466 Myles: Almost 2000, so here's a cool thing about that. 00:30:09.499 --> 00:30:11.433 Rebecca: So that's like a huge miracle. 00:30:11.466 --> 00:30:16.132 Myles: Eliezer Ben-Yehuda was a Jewish man in Europe and he 00:30:16.166 --> 00:30:21.133 decided to reinvent and bring back together the spoken Hebrew 00:30:21.166 --> 00:30:23.666 language and that's why we have a language today because, 00:30:23.700 --> 00:30:25.866 at the time, we were speaking the languages of the nations 00:30:25.899 --> 00:30:29.466 we were in and we studied Hebrew as a sacred language. 00:30:29.500 --> 00:30:31.266 Jonathan: And there was Yiddish which was a part-- 00:30:31.300 --> 00:30:33.966 Myles: It's a combination, a combination of the German and 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.700 Hebrew but it's farmisht. 00:30:36.733 --> 00:30:39.132 Jonathan: That's Yiddish. Myles: Yeah, it's---Hebrew. 00:30:39.166 --> 00:30:40.799 Farmisht is Yiddish, 00:30:40.832 --> 00:30:43.366 but the idea is that he intentionally did that. 00:30:43.399 --> 00:30:45.766 One of the real cool things that I can speak with some audiences 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:50.032 is that at the same time that he was bringing the Hebrew language 00:30:50.066 --> 00:30:53.333 back to life, the modern Pentecostal movement 00:30:53.366 --> 00:30:55.833 with speaking in tongues began in Europe as well. 00:30:55.866 --> 00:30:59.233 So I have this whole story that I do about concurrent blessings. 00:30:59.266 --> 00:31:01.799 Every time God blesses the Jews, he blesses the church. 00:31:01.832 --> 00:31:04.032 Save it for another podcast, but-- 00:31:04.066 --> 00:31:07.599 Jonathan: So, the coming back and the whole point of this, of 00:31:07.632 --> 00:31:10.332 me bringing this up, is that the Arabs and the Jewish people 00:31:10.366 --> 00:31:13.033 in that area are co-mingling, they're selling goods 00:31:13.066 --> 00:31:14.533 to one another, they're working together, 00:31:14.566 --> 00:31:15.933 they're living together. 00:31:15.966 --> 00:31:17.266 Rebecca: Is this before Israel is a nation? 00:31:17.300 --> 00:31:19.233 Jonathan: Correct. Rebecca: Everything is fine. 00:31:19.266 --> 00:31:21.633 Jonathan: Yes. Myles: No, no, it's not fine. 00:31:21.666 --> 00:31:24.466 There were Arab attacks on local Jewish people going back to 1929 00:31:24.499 --> 00:31:25.866 in Hebron and other places. 00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:27.232 Jonathan: No, there's Islam going on. 00:31:27.266 --> 00:31:28.666 Myles: Correct. 00:31:28.700 --> 00:31:31.332 So there's always been tension, but there's also been a peace. 00:31:31.366 --> 00:31:33.032 There's also been an ability to dwell together. 00:31:33.066 --> 00:31:37.632 But in 1967-- 00:31:37.666 --> 00:31:40.432 Jonathan: You keep skipping 1948. 00:31:40.466 --> 00:31:42.433 You gotta explain what happens in 1948. 00:31:42.466 --> 00:31:45.499 Rebecca: Also I think one thing that's really important to 00:31:45.532 --> 00:31:50.366 say is to talk about that Israel was birthed after the Holocaust 00:31:50.399 --> 00:31:53.933 and what the Holocaust was a wake-up call to Jewish people to 00:31:53.966 --> 00:31:56.066 understand there is nowhere that they could go that was safe 00:31:56.100 --> 00:31:57.966 and that's why they needed their own nation. 00:31:57.999 --> 00:31:59.799 So I want one of you guys to say that. 00:31:59.832 --> 00:32:02.133 Myles: Well, that's why Theodor Herzl wrote a book 00:32:02.166 --> 00:32:04.833 called "Judenstaat: A Jewish State," 'cause he recognized 00:32:04.866 --> 00:32:08.899 when he saw the--when he saw the persecution of the Jews 00:32:08.933 --> 00:32:11.766 in Europe, especially after the Alfred Dreyfus affair, he was 00:32:11.800 --> 00:32:15.666 a French general who was falsely accused of treason. 00:32:15.700 --> 00:32:18.200 He was exonerated, but when Herzl saw that he said, 00:32:18.233 --> 00:32:20.932 "We are not safe in Europe. We've gotta have a state. 00:32:20.966 --> 00:32:22.799 We need to go somewhere." 00:32:22.833 --> 00:32:26.033 So the local--the League of Nations which became the 00:32:26.066 --> 00:32:29.199 United Nations, which we call the United Nothing, but, UN-- 00:32:29.233 --> 00:32:31.466 Jonathan: They had a glimpse of reality for that one moment 00:32:31.499 --> 00:32:33.400 where they had to vote in favor of-- 00:32:33.433 --> 00:32:35.700 Rebecca: Post Holocaust because the Holocaust was so bad. 00:32:35.733 --> 00:32:37.666 Myles: This is before. Rebecca: It was before? 00:32:37.699 --> 00:32:38.999 Myles: Yeah, this is before. 00:32:39.033 --> 00:32:42.833 This--I'm trying to build up to that, so the League of Nations 00:32:42.866 --> 00:32:47.166 offered the Jews Uganda and some other places where there was-- 00:32:47.199 --> 00:32:48.699 Jonathan: I'm pretty sure they were offered Alaska 00:32:48.733 --> 00:32:50.032 at one point. 00:32:50.066 --> 00:32:51.666 Myles: I don't know. Rebecca: That's so weird. 00:32:51.699 --> 00:32:53.933 Myles: Rich places, rich lands, you know, supply. 00:32:53.966 --> 00:32:57.900 But the Jews, having read this for 3000, 4000 years, 00:32:57.933 --> 00:33:01.866 knew where we belonged was in this desert. 00:33:01.899 --> 00:33:04.799 Jonathan: Then we'll show a map right here of the Promised Land. 00:33:04.832 --> 00:33:06.800 Myles: Well, you should show a map of the promise to Abraham 00:33:06.833 --> 00:33:09.032 which was much bigger than what we're in right now. 00:33:09.066 --> 00:33:11.399 But they knew where they belonged because every year 00:33:11.432 --> 00:33:13.866 at Passover, at the end of the service, we say, "L'shana 00:33:13.899 --> 00:33:16.199 haba'ah b'Yerushalayim," "Next year in Jerusalem." 00:33:16.232 --> 00:33:17.766 Been saying that for thousands of years 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:19.000 'cause we knew where we belonged. 00:33:19.066 --> 00:33:21.266 Myles: Because we knew where we belonged. 00:33:21.299 --> 00:33:25.866 And so, there was this movement to get back to Israel and people 00:33:25.899 --> 00:33:28.233 started going at the end of the 19th century and started 00:33:28.266 --> 00:33:29.966 drifting in, and coming in, coming in. 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.400 But it wasn't until the Holocaust which refers back 00:33:32.433 --> 00:33:34.332 to your Ezekiel 36 passage. 00:33:34.366 --> 00:33:38.366 It was literally, I mean, God's the master painter, you know, 00:33:38.399 --> 00:33:42.799 literally, the graves were opened as in Ezekiel 36 00:33:42.832 --> 00:33:45.533 and came back and came to life, right? 00:33:45.566 --> 00:33:49.266 That was not just a poetic picture, that was actually the 00:33:49.299 --> 00:33:55.166 literal graves of Europe gave up their dead and the people came 00:33:55.199 --> 00:33:56.933 back and were brought to life. 00:33:56.966 --> 00:33:58.399 And so in-- 00:33:58.433 --> 00:34:00.399 Rebecca: So the people who lost their lives in the Holocaust-- 00:34:00.432 --> 00:34:03.666 Myles: Well, the idea of all that loss 00:34:03.700 --> 00:34:05.666 led to the rebirth, right? 00:34:05.699 --> 00:34:09.499 So people, survivors, came back to the land. 00:34:09.533 --> 00:34:12.799 Rebecca: So, basically, before the Holocaust, the League 00:34:12.833 --> 00:34:16.232 of Nations was trying to give the Jewish people a place to 00:34:16.266 --> 00:34:18.000 live but it wasn't Israel. 00:34:18.033 --> 00:34:21.133 After the Holocaust, because it was so devastating, 00:34:21.166 --> 00:34:23.599 they changed their minds and they said, "You can go back 00:34:23.632 --> 00:34:25.199 to where you were originally. 00:34:25.233 --> 00:34:26.966 Myles: Yeah, and Jonathan's right. 00:34:26.999 --> 00:34:30.433 There was a blink because a moment of compassion, there was 00:34:30.466 --> 00:34:33.666 a kind of a worldwide blink and it was thank God it was the USA 00:34:33.700 --> 00:34:36.432 and Harry Truman who said, "We'll cast the first vote 00:34:36.466 --> 00:34:39.066 for the state of Israel in the United Nations." 00:34:39.099 --> 00:34:42.232 And I believe that's part of why there's been such a blessing on 00:34:42.266 --> 00:34:44.933 the United States from World War II going forward: prosperity, 00:34:44.966 --> 00:34:47.800 peace on and off, and so many wonderful things 00:34:47.833 --> 00:34:49.199 have come out of this country. 00:34:49.233 --> 00:34:51.699 I believe it's because we fulfilled Genesis 12 00:34:51.733 --> 00:34:53.733 which is to bless Abraham. 00:34:53.766 --> 00:34:55.333 Those that bless him will be blessed. 00:34:55.366 --> 00:34:56.700 Those who curse him will be cursed. 00:34:56.733 --> 00:35:00.799 And you can watch--you can track the backslidings of America with 00:35:00.833 --> 00:35:03.866 devastation in America, having to do with how much we love 00:35:03.899 --> 00:35:05.233 and serve Israel. 00:35:05.266 --> 00:35:06.566 Rebecca: 'Cause we've gone kind of back and forth. 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.399 Myles: Correct. Rebecca: As a nation. 00:35:08.433 --> 00:35:10.666 I mean, you can--you're right, you can study those connections 00:35:10.699 --> 00:35:12.966 when we were for, how we were blessed; when we were against, 00:35:12.999 --> 00:35:15.000 how we were punished. 00:35:15.033 --> 00:35:17.666 Jonathan: On May 14, 1948, Israel declares independence 00:35:17.700 --> 00:35:21.032 with the right of the UN to be a nation. 00:35:21.066 --> 00:35:23.666 And what happens when they-- Israel declares independence? 00:35:23.699 --> 00:35:25.499 Myles: You know, five nations attack the next day. 00:35:25.532 --> 00:35:26.899 Jonathan: Kaboom. 00:35:26.933 --> 00:35:30.232 And so what happens is they had been feeding intel to the Arab 00:35:30.266 --> 00:35:33.266 population in that area, letting them know, you know, Lebanon, 00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:39.099 Jordan, Syria, Egypt, "Hey, once--if this happens, we are 00:35:39.133 --> 00:35:41.766 going to roll in and destroy the Jewish people 00:35:41.799 --> 00:35:43.533 because they cannot be here. 00:35:43.566 --> 00:35:45.033 We hate the Jewish people." 00:35:45.066 --> 00:35:47.366 We know it's spiritual, it's not physical. 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.266 They wanna eradicate it because they don't want Jesus to come 00:35:50.299 --> 00:35:52.032 back and Jesus is coming back to a Jewish people 00:35:52.066 --> 00:35:53.566 and the nation of Israel. 00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.099 So what happens is, Israel somehow, beat up from the 00:35:57.132 --> 00:36:00.900 Holocaust, women with guns, end up defending themselves 00:36:00.933 --> 00:36:05.166 and pushing these Arab armies out of Israel's borders. 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.366 Myles: Yeah, it was a total miracle. 00:36:07.399 --> 00:36:09.899 And if you talk to some of the generals that were alive, 00:36:09.933 --> 00:36:12.866 I'm going back 20, 30, years, some of the older generals, 00:36:12.900 --> 00:36:15.532 they will tell you, "Absolutely there's no way 00:36:15.566 --> 00:36:17.466 we could have done this." 00:36:17.499 --> 00:36:19.900 They said the same about '67, the same about '73. 00:36:19.933 --> 00:36:23.132 '67, the same thing: Israel did a preemptive strike. 00:36:23.166 --> 00:36:25.699 They'd been getting the intel about what was gonna happen. 00:36:25.733 --> 00:36:28.532 They did a preemptive strike and wiped out the entire Egyptian 00:36:28.566 --> 00:36:31.232 Air Force which set the stage for what was about to come. 00:36:31.266 --> 00:36:33.033 Again, all the nations came against them 00:36:33.066 --> 00:36:34.666 and, again, they won. 00:36:34.700 --> 00:36:36.233 Again, by miracles. 00:36:36.266 --> 00:36:39.966 In '73, we almost lost and it's a fascinating part of our 00:36:39.999 --> 00:36:43.699 history in the United States is that Richard Nixon was 00:36:43.733 --> 00:36:45.066 the president at the time. 00:36:45.099 --> 00:36:47.966 He was well known to be an anti-Semite, but what he did 00:36:47.999 --> 00:36:51.566 was, when Golda Meir came to him and said, "If you don't send us 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.400 weapons and equipment, we're gonna be wiped out. 00:36:55.433 --> 00:36:57.533 This is the end of Israel." 00:36:57.566 --> 00:37:01.299 And he was iffy about it and his Jewish State Department had 00:37:01.333 --> 00:37:04.832 Henry Kissinger was also--he actually, literally, he said, 00:37:04.866 --> 00:37:07.166 "Let the Israelis bleed a little bit," you know? 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.333 You can't--it's hard to make up. 00:37:09.366 --> 00:37:12.299 But here's what happened with Nixon. 00:37:12.332 --> 00:37:16.100 He remembered his mother who was a Quaker and a believer, he 00:37:16.133 --> 00:37:19.499 remembered his mother telling him when he was a little boy, 00:37:19.532 --> 00:37:24.332 "If you ever get a chance to do anything good for the Jewish 00:37:24.366 --> 00:37:26.533 people, you do it." 00:37:26.566 --> 00:37:31.199 And Nixon remembered his mommy and what his mommy said and he 00:37:31.233 --> 00:37:34.133 sent arms and sent equipment, sent help, and basically helped 00:37:34.166 --> 00:37:35.766 the '73 war. 00:37:35.799 --> 00:37:37.766 Helped us win, helped the overcoming 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.866 of incredible devastation. 00:37:40.899 --> 00:37:43.132 Rebecca: And that's kind of the story over and over and over 00:37:43.166 --> 00:37:47.433 again, just great, like, intense persecution but by a miracle, 00:37:47.466 --> 00:37:50.066 you know, and like you said, I want you to speak to 00:37:50.099 --> 00:37:51.700 "Can a nation be born in a day?" 00:37:51.733 --> 00:37:53.299 in that, 'cause we kind of skipped over that. 00:37:53.332 --> 00:37:55.566 Jonathan: Yeah, I mean, it said in Isaiah, 00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:58.033 "Can a nation be born in a day?" And we actually saw it happen. 00:37:58.066 --> 00:38:00.333 The nation was born in a day and it's just a really cool picture 00:38:00.366 --> 00:38:03.699 of how all the way back to the time that Isaiah was speaking 00:38:03.733 --> 00:38:06.700 and writing these Scriptures, we actually seen the fulfillment 00:38:06.733 --> 00:38:08.232 right in our lifetime. 00:38:08.266 --> 00:38:12.933 I mean, you were born in 1951, so 3 years after--oh, 00:38:12.966 --> 00:38:14.466 sorry about that. 00:38:14.500 --> 00:38:17.033 Three years after-- Myles: Don't tell my wife. 00:38:17.066 --> 00:38:18.699 Jonathan: So think about, like, what time we're living in. 00:38:18.732 --> 00:38:20.366 I mean, that moment in time started a clock. 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.466 I don't know where the clock is--like, how long we're going 00:38:22.499 --> 00:38:24.399 with any--but it's not my job to know. 00:38:24.433 --> 00:38:28.900 But the point I was trying to make about the Arab people being 00:38:28.933 --> 00:38:31.566 displaced so that these armies could come in, was that 00:38:31.600 --> 00:38:34.433 eventually is what turns into this Gaza Strip. 00:38:34.466 --> 00:38:36.766 So what Gaza Strip, which is what you're gonna see in the 00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.499 headlines right now and for a long time coming, is an area 00:38:40.532 --> 00:38:44.666 that, for a while, Jews and Arabs were co-mingled. 00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:46.666 They were living there, there was a thriving-- 00:38:46.700 --> 00:38:48.499 it was a coastal economy. 00:38:48.532 --> 00:38:50.666 It was a place the Jewish people would go and the Arabs 00:38:50.700 --> 00:38:52.099 would go for vacationing. 00:38:52.132 --> 00:38:54.533 There were beaches. It was beautiful. 00:38:54.566 --> 00:38:57.566 And it has now become a hell hole because Hamas 00:38:57.600 --> 00:39:00.832 has control over it and Hamas is a terrorist organization. 00:39:00.866 --> 00:39:05.566 And so they've turned it into a literal tip of a spear for 00:39:05.600 --> 00:39:08.699 attacking the nation of Israel and what we just saw take place 00:39:08.732 --> 00:39:11.432 earlier this month, in the month of October, 2023, 00:39:11.466 --> 00:39:18.066 was an unprecedented attack on civilians, women, children, 00:39:18.099 --> 00:39:21.432 elderly, including Holocaust survivors, and what we are 00:39:21.466 --> 00:39:25.133 living in today is a crisis where the church needs to come 00:39:25.166 --> 00:39:27.966 together because there's 200 people that have been taken 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.566 or maybe 200--maybe more than 200 people 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:31.966 that have been taken hostage. 00:39:31.999 --> 00:39:33.299 They've been kidnapped. 00:39:33.333 --> 00:39:35.399 They're living in cages in unprecedented, like, 00:39:35.433 --> 00:39:38.766 conditions in Gaza and it's very serious. 00:39:38.799 --> 00:39:42.366 So I think it's important that people understand that this 00:39:42.399 --> 00:39:47.566 area--why was this area--why did it have the opportunity 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:50.233 to turn into what it was turned into? 00:39:50.266 --> 00:39:53.899 Myles: Well, it's the story of Israel trying to be loved by 00:39:53.932 --> 00:39:56.666 the nations and trying to fit in with the nations. 00:39:56.700 --> 00:39:59.766 Goes way back to the Israelites telling Samuel, "We want 00:39:59.799 --> 00:40:02.166 a king," you know, because the other nations would come 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.733 and they would say, "We wanna see your king," and Samuel 00:40:04.766 --> 00:40:06.533 and the prophets would have to say, "You can't see him." 00:40:06.566 --> 00:40:09.033 They said, "We wanna see him." "Well, you can't. 00:40:09.066 --> 00:40:10.399 You can't see him," you know, "he's invisible. 00:40:10.433 --> 00:40:11.799 You can't see him." 00:40:11.832 --> 00:40:13.132 But they said, "We want a king." 00:40:13.166 --> 00:40:14.732 And God said--Samuel said, "Well, what am I gonna do? 00:40:14.766 --> 00:40:16.099 They're gonna reject me," and God said, 00:40:16.132 --> 00:40:17.466 "They're not rejecting you. 00:40:17.499 --> 00:40:19.366 They're rejecting me," 'cause he was the King. 00:40:19.399 --> 00:40:21.033 God was the King. 00:40:21.066 --> 00:40:23.999 And so we started that process of having kings. 00:40:24.032 --> 00:40:28.100 We have 44 kings, 6 of whom were reasonable and decent. 00:40:28.133 --> 00:40:30.932 The rest of them, 38 of them, were horrifying. 00:40:30.966 --> 00:40:34.333 As my friend Peter Tsukahira says, "They were--let me tell 00:40:34.366 --> 00:40:36.600 you, the book of 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Chronicles, 00:40:36.633 --> 00:40:40.733 1 and 2 Kings, in four words: 'They were a disaster.'" 00:40:40.766 --> 00:40:44.133 And so we can't be like the other nations because God 00:40:44.166 --> 00:40:48.532 separated us on purpose to make us unlike the other nations. 00:40:48.566 --> 00:40:53.600 And so, that's the story there is that the Jews attempting 00:40:53.633 --> 00:40:56.900 to forestall any kind of further terror, said, 00:40:56.933 --> 00:40:58.299 "Well, let's give them Gaza. 00:40:58.333 --> 00:40:59.666 They want land for peace. 00:40:59.700 --> 00:41:03.499 We'll give them Gaza," which, as Jonathan said, was a garden. 00:41:03.532 --> 00:41:06.332 It was exporting flowers, fruits, vegetables, to Europe, 00:41:06.366 --> 00:41:07.666 to Canada, all over. 00:41:07.699 --> 00:41:09.166 It had beautiful greenhouses. 00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:10.766 I mean, it was an incredible place. 00:41:10.799 --> 00:41:12.932 And so, some of--actually, I was with Rosemary Schindler 00:41:12.966 --> 00:41:14.499 and Katharine. 00:41:14.533 --> 00:41:17.766 We were in Washington, D.C., trying to talk to these 00:41:17.799 --> 00:41:20.600 muckimuks, these important Jews and Christians about 00:41:20.633 --> 00:41:24.666 not--getting a message to George Bush and to Ariel Sharon: 00:41:24.699 --> 00:41:26.566 "Do not give Gaza away. 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.233 We know what's gonna happen." 00:41:28.266 --> 00:41:30.832 And of course, obviously, the message didn't go through. 00:41:30.866 --> 00:41:34.466 Ariel Sharon, who was a fierce general, decided that he was 00:41:34.499 --> 00:41:37.233 gonna give it to the Arabs. 00:41:37.266 --> 00:41:41.166 Gave it to the Arabs, forcibly pulled out almost 10,000 Jews 00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:46.932 and within weeks they had torn down all the greenhouses, taken 00:41:46.966 --> 00:41:50.033 the irrigation pipes and made them into rocket launchers, had 00:41:50.066 --> 00:41:52.833 knocked over all the graves and made them into latrines, 00:41:52.866 --> 00:41:54.866 and bulldozed the synagogues. 00:41:54.899 --> 00:41:58.466 And it became a den of terror and it's been that way since. 00:41:58.500 --> 00:42:00.966 And so when you see this incredible news footage of--even 00:42:01.033 --> 00:42:08.366 recently when this hospital was allegedly bombed by Israel in 00:42:08.399 --> 00:42:13.233 Gaza, and immediately all the world news media was in 00:42:13.266 --> 00:42:16.599 the streets and blaming Israel and talking about how-- 00:42:16.633 --> 00:42:18.266 protests everywhere. 00:42:18.299 --> 00:42:22.166 Just, it's going on and on about this horrible Rambo 00:42:22.200 --> 00:42:24.499 the Giant Jew who is out there killing the innocent babies, 00:42:24.532 --> 00:42:26.099 blah, blah, blah. 00:42:26.133 --> 00:42:28.766 Turned out they never would actually look at the footage. 00:42:28.799 --> 00:42:34.466 Hamas's own radio transmissions, the communication within Gaza, 00:42:34.499 --> 00:42:37.533 and it was very clear that it was a bum rocket that went 00:42:37.566 --> 00:42:41.133 sideways from Hamas, from Islamic Jihada, actually, that 00:42:41.166 --> 00:42:43.432 went sideways and landed in the parking lot. 00:42:43.466 --> 00:42:45.733 Jonathan: Parking lot. Myles: Yeah, but-- 00:42:45.766 --> 00:42:47.099 Jonathan: Not even the hospital. 00:42:47.133 --> 00:42:48.433 Myles: Not even hit the hospital. 00:42:48.466 --> 00:42:51.000 But they--immediately, the conflagration was on the news 00:42:51.033 --> 00:42:53.132 about how bad Israel is. 00:42:53.166 --> 00:42:57.932 Well, that gives you an idea, you know, why what you're doing 00:42:57.966 --> 00:42:59.366 is so important. 00:42:59.399 --> 00:43:01.133 Rebecca: So I wanna make some points here. 00:43:01.166 --> 00:43:03.599 So it's--people need to understand that Israel is the 00:43:03.633 --> 00:43:06.900 one place where it's, you know, the Jewish people's own land, 00:43:06.933 --> 00:43:08.999 where they can be safe. 00:43:09.033 --> 00:43:11.933 And to understand the fight and the struggle that they had 00:43:11.966 --> 00:43:15.966 before Israel was reborn and even to keep Israel because 00:43:15.999 --> 00:43:18.200 the day that Israel was born, all the Arab nations 00:43:18.233 --> 00:43:19.700 of the world turned on them. 00:43:19.733 --> 00:43:22.399 So the people need to understand the fight that the Jewish people 00:43:22.433 --> 00:43:25.266 have had to--basically always have. 00:43:25.299 --> 00:43:28.099 The fact that when God made them his people, put a target on 00:43:28.132 --> 00:43:32.632 their back, how the enemy hates them, and how, basically, Israel 00:43:32.666 --> 00:43:35.366 wanting acceptance from the world because they have faced 00:43:35.399 --> 00:43:37.800 so much pressure from all the world, 00:43:37.833 --> 00:43:39.133 all these different nations. 00:43:39.166 --> 00:43:40.533 We talked about the UN. 00:43:40.566 --> 00:43:42.599 The UN gave Israel that one thing and from that they've just 00:43:42.633 --> 00:43:44.232 basically turned on them. 00:43:44.266 --> 00:43:47.766 And so, because of this worldwide pressure, Israel gave 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.166 up some of their land, thinking that it would bring peace but, 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:56.500 instead, it was basically, has provided more conflict. 00:43:56.533 --> 00:43:59.633 And instead of taking a place--see, people would never 00:43:59.666 --> 00:44:01.799 think of Gaza as beautiful 'cause they would think of it 00:44:01.832 --> 00:44:03.532 as what it is now. 00:44:03.566 --> 00:44:06.233 But instead of trying to be--instead of the people there 00:44:06.266 --> 00:44:08.766 being happy and just existing, and of course, there probably 00:44:08.799 --> 00:44:11.266 are some people there that want to exist, but Hamas, 00:44:11.300 --> 00:44:14.533 the terrorist organizations, the things operating it, like you 00:44:14.566 --> 00:44:17.633 said, they took the whatever it was and turned it into rockets, 00:44:17.666 --> 00:44:23.366 because we need to speak to what is the goal of Islam and why 00:44:23.399 --> 00:44:26.499 it is to basically wipe out the Jewish people and why 00:44:26.533 --> 00:44:30.799 they'll never stop until they have the whole piece of Israel. 00:44:30.833 --> 00:44:34.266 Myles: Yeah, and I think that's probably for a part 2 00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:37.433 because we really do need to talk at length about-- 00:44:37.466 --> 00:44:38.866 Islam about the-- 00:44:38.900 --> 00:44:40.199 Jonathan: I wanna say one thing, though. 00:44:40.232 --> 00:44:41.566 Myles: Please do. 00:44:41.600 --> 00:44:43.266 Jonathan: Just about Hamas and their charter. 00:44:43.299 --> 00:44:46.899 Their number one, their shining star, their biggest point at 00:44:46.933 --> 00:44:50.733 the beginning is eradication of the Jewish people and Israel. 00:44:50.766 --> 00:44:52.433 Rebecca: People need to understand that. 00:44:52.466 --> 00:44:53.766 Jonathan: So that's just important that you understand 00:44:53.799 --> 00:44:55.266 that that is who we're dealing with. 00:44:55.300 --> 00:44:56.832 We're not dealing with somebody who is, 00:44:56.866 --> 00:44:59.133 "Well, we would like to have--" Rebecca: Wanting peace. 00:44:59.166 --> 00:45:00.632 Jonathan: Yeah, "We would like to get--we'd like to work 00:45:00.666 --> 00:45:01.966 this out," you know? 00:45:01.999 --> 00:45:03.299 A marriage, you want peace. 00:45:03.332 --> 00:45:04.933 Sometimes there's conflict, you fight over who took the last 00:45:04.966 --> 00:45:07.433 piece of fruit or whatever it is, but you figure it out 00:45:07.466 --> 00:45:09.700 because you both want peace. 00:45:09.733 --> 00:45:11.133 That's not happening. 00:45:11.166 --> 00:45:13.233 Rebecca: But when one side doesn't want peace, they want 00:45:13.266 --> 00:45:15.200 the full thing, you're never gonna get peace. 00:45:15.233 --> 00:45:18.066 And so it's just the world is putting pressure on Israel but 00:45:18.100 --> 00:45:23.233 Israel can not appease Hamas until they're all gone. 00:45:23.266 --> 00:45:25.733 Myles: Well, some pundit years ago described it as 00:45:25.766 --> 00:45:28.000 feeding an alligator. 00:45:28.033 --> 00:45:29.899 You feed him your hand, hoping it won't take your arm. 00:45:29.932 --> 00:45:32.066 You know, it's just not gonna happen. 00:45:32.100 --> 00:45:36.466 So until there is a reformation within Islam, which is a topic 00:45:36.499 --> 00:45:39.832 for another day, 'til there's a real reformation, we have to 00:45:39.866 --> 00:45:43.233 recognize that the book itself, the Qur'an itself, calls 00:45:43.266 --> 00:45:49.499 for Jihad, calls for a worldwide caliphate and so that's not 00:45:49.533 --> 00:45:51.566 something you can appease through negotiation. 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.466 Jonathan: And I wanna speak to one thing, too, just in 00:45:53.499 --> 00:45:55.933 regards to what I'm seeing on the Internet and social media 00:45:55.966 --> 00:45:57.433 and a lot of people are sending me right now. 00:45:57.466 --> 00:45:59.632 And Dad, you can speak to this as well. 00:45:59.666 --> 00:46:02.666 But a lot of people are saying that Israel knew this was 00:46:02.699 --> 00:46:05.766 coming, they let it happen, they wanted it to happen, and I don't 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.333 know all the answers, nor do I pretend to know all the answers 00:46:08.366 --> 00:46:11.233 or understand the political situation well enough to say 00:46:11.266 --> 00:46:13.866 that, but here's what I do wanna say is: I don't care. 00:46:13.899 --> 00:46:15.666 Because it doesn't matter if they knew 00:46:15.699 --> 00:46:17.032 or if they didn't know. 00:46:17.066 --> 00:46:18.900 It's going to happen, regardless, because this isn't 00:46:18.933 --> 00:46:20.233 just a physical battle. 00:46:20.266 --> 00:46:21.600 It's a spiritual battle. 00:46:21.633 --> 00:46:24.699 And the enemy is going to do everything he can to sow 00:46:24.733 --> 00:46:29.400 discord, divide the church, and to eradicate the Jewish people 00:46:29.433 --> 00:46:31.966 because if he can do that, which he can't, but if he can-- 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:33.566 he can sure try. 00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.100 If he can do that, he can prevent Yeshua from returning on 00:46:36.133 --> 00:46:38.032 the Mount of Olives and walking through the Eastern Gate. 00:46:38.066 --> 00:46:41.599 And so, there's gonna be an onslaught of narratives about 00:46:41.633 --> 00:46:44.199 how this was planned and coordinated and all of it is 00:46:44.232 --> 00:46:46.833 going to try and turn the church's attention away 00:46:46.866 --> 00:46:49.132 from the real thing, which is you need to stand with Israel. 00:46:49.166 --> 00:46:50.499 That's in the Bible. 00:46:50.532 --> 00:46:51.966 You need to stand in love with the Jewish people. 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.333 That's in the Bible. 00:46:53.366 --> 00:46:55.732 And you gotta pray for the peace of that area. 00:46:55.766 --> 00:46:57.099 That's in the Bible. 00:46:57.133 --> 00:46:59.400 And so it's so important that we don't get caught up 00:46:59.433 --> 00:47:02.333 in conspiracy theories or caught up in what may 00:47:02.366 --> 00:47:04.433 or may not have happened because that doesn't matter. 00:47:04.466 --> 00:47:05.866 Let's keep the main thing the main thing, 00:47:05.900 --> 00:47:07.866 which is what we're called to do. 00:47:07.900 --> 00:47:10.533 Rebecca: And understanding, because I saw some Christians 00:47:10.566 --> 00:47:13.399 say, "Well, Jewish people don't even believe in Jesus. 00:47:13.432 --> 00:47:16.499 Why should we be supporting Israel, it's a secular nation." 00:47:16.532 --> 00:47:19.799 But as you were referencing earlier, that God clearly shows 00:47:19.832 --> 00:47:22.966 that he will bring the Jewish people together first and, 00:47:22.999 --> 00:47:26.066 as the fullness of the Gentiles, you know, hear the gospel, 00:47:26.100 --> 00:47:29.766 then the gospel will reach the Jewish people. 00:47:29.799 --> 00:47:33.966 And so there's a reason we can still support Israel, even 00:47:33.999 --> 00:47:35.533 though it's a secular nation. 00:47:35.566 --> 00:47:39.666 Myles: It's almost--if it wasn't ironic and terrifyingly 00:47:39.699 --> 00:47:46.033 sad, reality is I didn't know Jesus and people prayed for me 00:47:46.066 --> 00:47:48.766 and people loved me and people shared with me 00:47:48.799 --> 00:47:51.600 and people stood with me, 'til I came to know Jesus. 00:47:51.633 --> 00:47:56.799 It's not up to me, you know, the timetable of people's salvation. 00:47:56.832 --> 00:47:58.366 That's up to God. 00:47:58.399 --> 00:48:01.533 What I can do is be the best witness I can be, and for 00:48:01.566 --> 00:48:05.466 Christians I think the witness that my people have been waiting 00:48:05.499 --> 00:48:10.299 for is this: Is that, wow, there are people that actually don't 00:48:10.333 --> 00:48:12.933 hate us and they're willing to stand with us, even if we don't 00:48:12.966 --> 00:48:14.699 believe in Jesus yet, you know? 00:48:14.733 --> 00:48:18.533 And that's kind of the message that we have to be bringing. 00:48:18.566 --> 00:48:21.266 We're fervent about preaching the gospel to our own people. 00:48:21.299 --> 00:48:23.233 We get that, you know, and we stand with people 00:48:23.266 --> 00:48:24.599 that are doing that in the land. 00:48:24.633 --> 00:48:26.832 I believe they're the tip of the spear through the gospel, 00:48:26.866 --> 00:48:30.599 but I'm not gonna not love because they're imperfect. 00:48:30.633 --> 00:48:32.566 Start with me. 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.500 You know, if you wanna start with imperfect, 00:48:34.533 --> 00:48:36.032 I can start right here. 00:48:36.066 --> 00:48:39.099 So I think that--I think we're in unity 00:48:39.133 --> 00:48:42.199 about doing what's right. 00:48:42.232 --> 00:48:44.166 As my grandmother would say, "Do the right thing." 00:48:44.200 --> 00:48:45.600 Maybe that was Spike Lee. 00:48:45.633 --> 00:48:46.966 But she said it first. 00:48:46.999 --> 00:48:48.499 You know, do the right thing. 00:48:48.532 --> 00:48:51.199 You know, be a person, be a mensch, you know, and what's 00:48:51.233 --> 00:48:55.099 menschy for the Christians right now is to, first of all, 00:48:55.133 --> 00:48:56.466 read the book. 00:48:56.500 --> 00:48:58.133 Jonathan: Good idea. 00:48:58.166 --> 00:49:00.466 Myles: Read the book and you can come to an undeniable 00:49:00.500 --> 00:49:04.299 conclusion that God is in this and this is at the forefront 00:49:04.333 --> 00:49:06.100 of his heart. 00:49:06.133 --> 00:49:08.466 Rebecca: Okay, I think an important point for us 00:49:08.499 --> 00:49:10.866 to make is that we love both. 00:49:10.899 --> 00:49:13.199 We love both Israelis and Palestinians. 00:49:13.232 --> 00:49:17.999 How can we love both but also stand with God's covenant 00:49:18.032 --> 00:49:19.732 and God's people? 00:49:19.766 --> 00:49:24.499 Myles: Well, I think that the education of both groups, like, 00:49:24.532 --> 00:49:27.433 we have secular Jewish people that don't know which way 00:49:27.466 --> 00:49:29.733 is up either, because they don't know the Bible. 00:49:29.766 --> 00:49:32.533 And so, for both the Arab people and the Jewish people, 00:49:32.566 --> 00:49:35.833 we need to get back to the wisdom that is here and the 00:49:35.866 --> 00:49:37.433 promises that are there. 00:49:37.466 --> 00:49:40.199 In terms of the feeling world which everybody's enamored of 00:49:40.233 --> 00:49:43.833 right now, I think that we--the best thing we can do is preach 00:49:43.866 --> 00:49:47.932 the gospel because what changes, I mean, I have many examples, as 00:49:47.966 --> 00:49:51.232 does Jonathan, of Jews and Arabs together in the Lord and what 00:49:51.266 --> 00:49:54.199 a beautiful thing that is when people come to faith because 00:49:54.233 --> 00:49:57.033 I've had Muslim, former terrorists as I've said, 00:49:57.066 --> 00:49:59.100 come to faith and love the Jewish people, love Israel, 00:49:59.133 --> 00:50:01.033 as much as possible, and vice versa. 00:50:01.066 --> 00:50:02.833 We work together in Israel. 00:50:02.866 --> 00:50:05.566 One of the stories I have is bringing a sound system to 00:50:05.600 --> 00:50:09.499 a group in Bethlehem and when the Israeli authorities stopped 00:50:09.532 --> 00:50:11.232 me at the airport and said, "What are you doing?" 00:50:11.266 --> 00:50:12.600 I said, "This is a sound system." 00:50:12.633 --> 00:50:14.699 "Yes, we can see that. What are you doing?" 00:50:14.733 --> 00:50:16.066 "I'm bringing it to the Arabs in Bethlehem." 00:50:16.099 --> 00:50:17.432 "Why?" 00:50:17.466 --> 00:50:18.932 I said, "Because I want them to preach love 00:50:18.966 --> 00:50:20.999 to their Muslim friends." 00:50:21.033 --> 00:50:23.200 And they said, "Oh, well, pass right through." 00:50:23.233 --> 00:50:27.566 Because love, the love of God, is the answer for both, right? 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:31.233 So, in the meantime, yes, absolutely, we work with people 00:50:31.266 --> 00:50:34.466 on the ground who are supporting both groups and helping both 00:50:34.499 --> 00:50:37.499 groups but we still have to stick to what God's plan is 00:50:37.533 --> 00:50:40.533 which ultimately is that Israel will be a Jewish people. 00:50:40.566 --> 00:50:42.899 Jonathan: And I think it's important to understand too 00:50:42.932 --> 00:50:46.633 that there's thousands of Arabs that are in the IDF that are 00:50:46.666 --> 00:50:49.366 denouncing terrorism, that are denouncing Hamas, 00:50:49.399 --> 00:50:52.233 they're against violence and what is taking place. 00:50:52.266 --> 00:50:53.833 So there isn't-- 00:50:53.866 --> 00:50:55.233 Rebecca: That's an important point. 00:50:55.266 --> 00:50:56.866 Jonathan: It's very important that we understand that 00:50:56.899 --> 00:50:59.000 this is not a people group against people group. 00:50:59.033 --> 00:51:00.499 It's life against death. 00:51:00.533 --> 00:51:02.032 Myles: That's great. 00:51:02.066 --> 00:51:03.433 Jonathan: And so, we can't just-- 00:51:03.466 --> 00:51:04.766 Rebecca: "Lest you believe in life." 00:51:04.799 --> 00:51:07.832 Myles: Yeah, for example, the--20% of Israel 00:51:07.866 --> 00:51:09.833 is Israeli-Arab citizens. 00:51:09.866 --> 00:51:13.933 They vote, they serve, they are in positions of power, doctors, 00:51:13.966 --> 00:51:16.299 lawyers, Indian chiefs, they are--they're doing all the work 00:51:16.332 --> 00:51:19.100 of being a citizen and they are--there's some in the Supreme 00:51:19.133 --> 00:51:21.699 Court, judges, and there's some serving in the Knesset, 00:51:21.733 --> 00:51:25.033 you know, so Arab citizens in Israel have complete rights. 00:51:25.066 --> 00:51:28.199 How many rights do the Jews in Muslim lands have. 00:51:28.233 --> 00:51:31.299 Oh, that's right, there are no Jews in Muslim lands because 00:51:31.332 --> 00:51:34.233 we're not allowed, because we're second-class citizens called 00:51:34.266 --> 00:51:39.299 dhimmi in Arabic, and so we love by truth, we love by the gospel, 00:51:39.333 --> 00:51:41.699 we love through the Word, and we love through social work. 00:51:41.733 --> 00:51:43.232 We help, where possible, we help, 00:51:43.266 --> 00:51:44.966 but always in the name of Yeshua. 00:51:44.999 --> 00:51:46.866 Jonathan: And I'll say one last thing is that, you know, 00:51:46.899 --> 00:51:51.866 Daystar has contributed millions of dollars of aid to the nation 00:51:51.900 --> 00:51:54.700 of Israel and, when we do this, we're not doing it 00:51:54.733 --> 00:51:56.899 "This is only for the Jews." 00:51:56.932 --> 00:51:59.399 We are doing this for the people of Israel. 00:51:59.433 --> 00:52:02.533 That means that this is helping Arabs, this is helping Druze, 00:52:02.566 --> 00:52:05.732 this is helping multiple people, Ethiopian immigrants, 00:52:05.766 --> 00:52:07.466 Russian immigrants. 00:52:07.499 --> 00:52:11.232 And so, we as believers, we stand for life. 00:52:11.266 --> 00:52:14.333 We don't--we're not picking and choosing who this is going to, 00:52:14.366 --> 00:52:16.166 who this love, who this support is going to. 00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.399 Rebecca: All right, I have a few questions 00:52:18.432 --> 00:52:20.366 from people from social media. 00:52:20.399 --> 00:52:24.000 Why are the--okay, why are the Palestinians saying Israel 00:52:24.033 --> 00:52:25.933 lands belongs to them? 00:52:25.966 --> 00:52:27.599 Myles: Several reasons. 00:52:27.633 --> 00:52:32.133 One is that in 1948 and again in 1967, when the Arabs believed 00:52:32.166 --> 00:52:34.866 they were gonna push the Jews into the sea, they told their 00:52:34.900 --> 00:52:37.966 people who were living, some of whom were living in Israel 00:52:37.999 --> 00:52:39.700 proper, they said, "Get out of the way. 00:52:39.733 --> 00:52:42.433 Come back into Jordan. Get out of the area. 00:52:42.466 --> 00:52:44.766 What we're gonna do is gonna push the Jews into the sea 00:52:44.799 --> 00:52:46.733 and then you can have your house and theirs." 00:52:46.766 --> 00:52:48.866 So, the Arabs were displaced. 00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:52.366 At the same time, about the same number of Jews were displaced 00:52:52.399 --> 00:52:54.099 from the surrounding Arab lands. 00:52:54.133 --> 00:52:55.866 They left with the clothes on their back. 00:52:55.900 --> 00:52:57.232 Jonathan: 'Cause they were gonna die if they didn't. 00:52:57.266 --> 00:52:58.733 Myles: Correct. 00:52:58.766 --> 00:53:01.999 So there's been an exchange of refugees back in 1948, there was 00:53:02.033 --> 00:53:06.000 an exchange, about 650,000 to 850,000 on each side, being 00:53:06.033 --> 00:53:09.266 displaced and being exchanged from their Muslim lands 00:53:09.300 --> 00:53:11.199 to the Israel and back and forth. 00:53:11.233 --> 00:53:14.233 So it's not a--but the bigger question, the spiritual 00:53:14.266 --> 00:53:16.566 question, again comes back to another program 00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:19.700 which is about the nature of Islam, orthodox Islam. 00:53:19.733 --> 00:53:22.700 Not backslidden Islam, not this peace-loving Islam, 00:53:22.733 --> 00:53:25.266 which is many wonderful Muslims in the world. 00:53:25.299 --> 00:53:29.532 But the orthodoxy is about a program of conquest, 00:53:29.566 --> 00:53:33.399 a governmental and military conquest of the entire world, 00:53:33.433 --> 00:53:36.133 and divides the world into the house of Islam and the house of 00:53:36.166 --> 00:53:38.200 the world, or the unbelievers. 00:53:38.233 --> 00:53:42.733 And so, what happens there is that any place where Islam has 00:53:42.766 --> 00:53:46.066 been in control, which is during the Ottoman Turk Empire, 00:53:46.099 --> 00:53:50.099 19--'scuse me, from the 15th century to the 20th century, 00:53:50.132 --> 00:53:53.033 that 400-year period, it was under Muslim rule. 00:53:53.066 --> 00:53:55.799 So any place where they have been they believe is theirs 00:53:55.833 --> 00:53:58.266 and therefore no one can be in charge of it. 00:53:58.299 --> 00:54:00.999 So there's a natural sense within Islam 00:54:01.032 --> 00:54:03.600 that we were here so it's ours. 00:54:03.633 --> 00:54:05.366 Rebecca: "As a child of God, 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.100 I've always loved and supported Israel. 00:54:07.133 --> 00:54:09.500 Recently, I came across a documentary that shows the harsh 00:54:09.533 --> 00:54:12.432 conditions Palestinians, even Christian Palestinians, 00:54:12.466 --> 00:54:15.166 have to live in Bethlehem, Hebron. 00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.499 I feel terrible that they have to live that way. 00:54:17.533 --> 00:54:20.000 I wanted to know what is your viewpoint on this? 00:54:20.033 --> 00:54:21.366 Jonathan: I feel terrible too. 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.599 And so does the nation of Israel. 00:54:23.633 --> 00:54:25.666 And so does America. 00:54:25.699 --> 00:54:29.233 We don't want the Palestinian people to be suffering, to be 00:54:29.266 --> 00:54:32.299 living like refugees, to be living in harsh conditions. 00:54:32.333 --> 00:54:36.166 And we have done everything we can, including billions of 00:54:36.200 --> 00:54:40.433 dollars of aid to those people, but here is the problem. 00:54:40.466 --> 00:54:45.800 Hamas has won in an "election" and so they have control over 00:54:45.833 --> 00:54:48.199 the government of that area. 00:54:48.233 --> 00:54:52.299 And so this area is controlled by a terrorist organization. 00:54:52.333 --> 00:54:55.500 So they take the funding and they use it for rockets, they 00:54:55.533 --> 00:54:58.433 use it for guns, they use it for whatever it is that they can get 00:54:58.466 --> 00:55:01.432 their hands on that can then turn and wreak havoc 00:55:01.466 --> 00:55:02.932 onto the nation of Israel. 00:55:02.966 --> 00:55:04.833 So, I feel bad. 00:55:04.866 --> 00:55:08.699 It's actually terrible that there's people that have to live 00:55:08.732 --> 00:55:12.599 under a regime like that and we should be praying fervently 00:55:12.632 --> 00:55:17.200 that this regime is broken, dismantled, and crushed forever 00:55:17.233 --> 00:55:20.799 so that these people can move on with their lives and live a life 00:55:20.832 --> 00:55:23.133 that the nation of Israel wants them to live. 00:55:23.166 --> 00:55:25.400 The nation of Israel wants the people of Gaza to live a 00:55:25.433 --> 00:55:29.599 thriving life on the coast of Gaza, on the coast of Israel, 00:55:29.633 --> 00:55:33.133 that has economy, that has the lavishes, that has the 00:55:33.166 --> 00:55:35.633 pluralistic society that the nation of Israel has. 00:55:35.666 --> 00:55:37.866 And so that's what we should be praying for and reaching for and 00:55:37.900 --> 00:55:41.266 striving for, but the reality is, the nation of Israel and the 00:55:41.299 --> 00:55:43.832 United States and many other nations have done everything 00:55:43.866 --> 00:55:47.400 they can to make that a reality, but the control of the terror 00:55:47.433 --> 00:55:50.633 organization over the area has stopped it. 00:55:50.666 --> 00:55:52.932 Rebecca: Okay, this next one: "I'm struggling not to respond 00:55:52.966 --> 00:55:54.266 to hateful comments. 00:55:54.299 --> 00:55:55.866 How do I manage this as a Christian?" 00:55:55.900 --> 00:55:57.832 I want one of you to speak to this but I also wanna speak 00:55:57.866 --> 00:55:59.600 to this personally. 00:55:59.633 --> 00:56:03.166 I've had to learn from you not to get into it with people. 00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:07.066 And I would say from my own personal experience, not to, 00:56:07.099 --> 00:56:12.833 you know, waste your time getting into a war, you know, 00:56:12.866 --> 00:56:15.099 a comment war on social media, you know. 00:56:15.132 --> 00:56:16.699 I think you need to be intentional. 00:56:16.733 --> 00:56:18.266 I think you have to choose your battles. 00:56:18.299 --> 00:56:21.300 I think you can speak support from your own page. 00:56:21.333 --> 00:56:24.700 But I've just never seen a lot--any kind of good come from 00:56:24.733 --> 00:56:26.499 a battle over social media. 00:56:26.832 --> 00:56:28.632 Social media is not your battleground. 00:56:28.666 --> 00:56:30.432 And I'm speaking to that to many people. 00:56:30.466 --> 00:56:33.733 You do not need to take up arms on social media. 00:56:33.766 --> 00:56:37.533 How you can use that as a tool is, like you just mentioned, you 00:56:37.566 --> 00:56:40.399 can post things that are real, that are biblical truths or that 00:56:40.433 --> 00:56:43.033 are reality, because you need to put awareness out there. 00:56:43.066 --> 00:56:46.032 You need to be spreading truth, spreading gospel, about the 00:56:46.066 --> 00:56:49.299 reality because there's so much of the other that's out there, 00:56:49.332 --> 00:56:50.733 and so that's the way you do it. 00:56:50.766 --> 00:56:52.532 I would not get into it with anybody 00:56:52.566 --> 00:56:54.899 on a comment thread ever. 00:56:54.933 --> 00:56:57.699 You're gonna waste your own time, your own mental energy, 00:56:57.733 --> 00:57:00.132 you're gonna waste your own--you should focus-- 00:57:00.166 --> 00:57:01.700 Rebecca: Your peace. 00:57:01.733 --> 00:57:04.266 Jonathan: Yeah, you should focus that on your family or 00:57:04.300 --> 00:57:07.000 your personal development or, you know, loving your neighbor. 00:57:07.033 --> 00:57:09.300 So that's what I would encourage you to do. 00:57:09.333 --> 00:57:11.599 Myles: Can I just add that the apostle Paul said 00:57:11.632 --> 00:57:15.500 that Satan is the prince of the power of the air? 00:57:15.533 --> 00:57:19.300 And so he's the prince of the power of the airwaves as well. 00:57:19.333 --> 00:57:22.033 That's why it's important that we have truth-telling airwaves 00:57:22.066 --> 00:57:25.032 and important that we don't get sucked into trying to solve 00:57:25.066 --> 00:57:26.766 problems on social media. 00:57:26.799 --> 00:57:30.333 As you said, it's just a waste of everybody's time, you know. 00:57:30.366 --> 00:57:32.733 So, people are selling, they're not buying. 00:57:32.766 --> 00:57:34.599 You know, it's very rare that someone, "Oh, 00:57:34.633 --> 00:57:36.400 I've just had a revelation because you yelled at me." 00:57:36.433 --> 00:57:37.933 That's not happening. 00:57:37.966 --> 00:57:41.833 So it's really important to recognize that this world of 00:57:41.866 --> 00:57:47.533 social media is a dangerous sinkhole in terms of getting 00:57:47.566 --> 00:57:48.866 sucked into arguments. 00:57:48.899 --> 00:57:50.266 Jonathan: Protect your eye gates. 00:57:50.299 --> 00:57:52.866 Read the Scripture, find channels, places like Daystar, 00:57:52.899 --> 00:57:55.266 podcasts like the "Rebecca Weiss Podcast" that are gonna be 00:57:55.299 --> 00:57:58.299 building you up in your faith, strengthening you in your faith, 00:57:58.332 --> 00:58:00.866 and when you focus on those things, the other stuff will 00:58:00.900 --> 00:58:02.599 just kind of trickle and fall away. 00:58:02.633 --> 00:58:05.499 Rebecca: Do we have any testimonies/experiences from 00:58:05.533 --> 00:58:07.799 believers living in Israel during these times? 00:58:07.832 --> 00:58:09.866 Jonathan: Yeah, there's hundreds right now. 00:58:09.899 --> 00:58:13.000 Because there's people that have been called up into the army 00:58:13.033 --> 00:58:14.666 that have left their families behind. 00:58:14.699 --> 00:58:18.766 That I'm talking to friends constantly that their--you know, 00:58:18.799 --> 00:58:21.366 these are mothers that have children, that their husband has 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:25.099 now gone off to war, that are having to seek a deep peace 00:58:25.132 --> 00:58:26.599 like never before. 00:58:26.633 --> 00:58:29.166 And so we--there are testimonies. 00:58:29.200 --> 00:58:31.066 Daystar is one testimony. 00:58:31.099 --> 00:58:34.732 Daystar has provided, like I've said, incredible amounts of aid, 00:58:34.766 --> 00:58:37.832 not just providing bulletproof vests for the soldiers 00:58:37.866 --> 00:58:40.200 to save lives, but providing beds, 00:58:40.233 --> 00:58:42.899 providing tactical gear for the army. 00:58:42.932 --> 00:58:46.333 So there's testimonies every which way and they're gonna 00:58:46.366 --> 00:58:47.700 continue to come. 00:58:47.733 --> 00:58:50.699 I mean, God--our God is a God of miracles and so I believe that 00:58:50.733 --> 00:58:53.200 this war is going to be won and I believe that 00:58:53.233 --> 00:58:54.533 it's gonna be won through miracles. 00:58:54.566 --> 00:58:56.200 So I think even more testimonies are gonna come. 00:58:56.233 --> 00:58:57.932 Rebecca: Only a couple more. 00:58:57.966 --> 00:59:00.466 This, I think, giving a short answer to this, 00:59:00.499 --> 00:59:02.732 to frame this whole conversation, is important. 00:59:02.766 --> 00:59:05.466 What is really happening right now? 00:59:05.500 --> 00:59:09.966 Myles: We're in the battle royale. 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.033 We're not at the end battle, necessarily, but we're in the 00:59:13.066 --> 00:59:15.133 battle between good and evil. 00:59:15.166 --> 00:59:18.099 And we need to align ourselves with that which is good, which 00:59:18.133 --> 00:59:21.032 again is found in the Word and in the living Word, Yeshua, 00:59:21.066 --> 00:59:23.599 and he has an enemy and the enemy is Satan. 00:59:23.632 --> 00:59:26.866 He's defeated but he's not going quietly into the night. 00:59:26.899 --> 00:59:29.533 He's gonna be stirred up because he knows his time is short. 00:59:29.566 --> 00:59:32.366 And so what we need to do is recognize that there's an 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.200 increase in spiritual warfare, the demonic is on the loose 00:59:36.233 --> 00:59:38.099 in ways that we haven't seen before. 00:59:38.133 --> 00:59:39.666 And so we need to be standing with the written Word, 00:59:39.700 --> 00:59:41.033 the living Word. 00:59:41.066 --> 00:59:42.666 Jonathan: Amen. Rebecca: That's so good. 00:59:42.699 --> 00:59:45.532 How can we pray? How should we pray? 00:59:45.566 --> 00:59:47.333 Myles: Shaalu shalom Yerushalayim, 00:59:47.366 --> 00:59:49.366 pray for the peace of Jerusalem. 00:59:49.399 --> 00:59:53.466 Which means to call to look into, to be connected to, to 00:59:53.500 --> 00:59:57.466 inquire as to the wellbeing of the Jews and the Arabs, and to, 00:59:57.499 --> 00:59:59.399 especially as you see the day approaching, 00:59:59.432 --> 01:00:02.066 do good to all especially the household of faith. 01:00:02.099 --> 01:00:04.266 Jonathan: And I would just say this, on a practical level, 01:00:04.299 --> 01:00:06.299 if you see a Jewish person in the street, if there's 01:00:06.333 --> 01:00:10.066 orthodoxy, they're wearing a yarmulke or a kippah, tell 'em 01:00:10.100 --> 01:00:13.400 you love 'em and follow the Katharine Weiss evangelistic, 01:00:13.433 --> 01:00:16.433 you know, one on one, 101, just thank 'em. 01:00:16.466 --> 01:00:18.999 Thank 'em for the Torah, thank 'em for the Bible. 01:00:19.033 --> 01:00:22.766 Because that alone is gonna do--it's gonna break down this 01:00:22.799 --> 01:00:24.999 hardening of their hearts that's happened 01:00:25.033 --> 01:00:26.732 over the years of persecution, so. 01:00:26.766 --> 01:00:29.566 Simple, easy, but maybe hard to follow through, 01:00:29.600 --> 01:00:31.166 but I recommend it. 01:00:31.200 --> 01:00:34.166 Rebecca: And then how can we use this conflict 01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:36.033 as an opportunity to share the love and peace of Christ 01:00:36.066 --> 01:00:41.033 with those affected and bring hope in a time of despair? 01:00:41.066 --> 01:00:43.366 Myles: I think you've just said it, that we love. 01:00:43.399 --> 01:00:46.099 You said earlier, we honor, recognize that the Christian 01:00:46.132 --> 01:00:48.699 faith comes from Judaism, comes from the Jewish people. 01:00:48.733 --> 01:00:52.633 We love, we honor, we help, we provide aid, we kind of be 01:00:52.666 --> 01:00:54.366 what Christ called us to be. 01:00:54.399 --> 01:00:56.433 Be who the Messiah has asked us to be in this world, 01:00:56.466 --> 01:00:58.399 and love everyone. 01:00:58.432 --> 01:01:00.766 And also point them to heaven. 01:01:00.799 --> 01:01:02.466 Jonathan: And stand with Israel. 01:01:02.500 --> 01:01:04.399 On a practical note, just stand with Israel. 01:01:04.432 --> 01:01:05.833 Stand with Israel in your prayer time, 01:01:05.866 --> 01:01:07.633 stand with Israel with your family. 01:01:07.666 --> 01:01:09.999 Even if you just sit down and you bless the meal, 01:01:10.032 --> 01:01:11.733 just bless the nation of Israel. 01:01:11.766 --> 01:01:15.199 And you wanna get aligned with God's heart and God says 01:01:15.232 --> 01:01:18.133 that the apple of his eye is the nation of Israel, 01:01:18.166 --> 01:01:19.566 the Jewish people. 01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:21.432 So we wanna be aligned with who he is and who-- 01:01:21.466 --> 01:01:22.800 what he cares about. 01:01:22.833 --> 01:01:24.833 So I would just align yourself with that, 01:01:24.866 --> 01:01:26.599 align your church with that. 01:01:26.632 --> 01:01:30.033 Go to your pastor, point them to resources like this podcast and 01:01:30.066 --> 01:01:33.299 many others that we could help you find, but get them aligned 01:01:33.332 --> 01:01:35.499 with understanding God's heart for Israel, 01:01:35.533 --> 01:01:36.900 God's heart for the Jewish people. 01:01:36.933 --> 01:01:40.900 Rebecca: Are we headed towards a third world war? 01:01:40.933 --> 01:01:44.066 Myles: It's a long slow war 'cause it's been unfolding 01:01:44.099 --> 01:01:46.299 for a long, long time, you know. 01:01:46.333 --> 01:01:48.900 The end times began in the 1st century. 01:01:48.933 --> 01:01:52.466 I mean, we're sort of on a slow march, but I don't know the day 01:01:52.499 --> 01:01:54.666 or the time and I don't know-- I do know this, 01:01:54.700 --> 01:01:57.833 that the nations are aligning, according to prophecy. 01:01:57.866 --> 01:02:00.799 We're seeing this alignment between Iran, China, 01:02:00.833 --> 01:02:02.733 Russia, and Turkey. 01:02:02.766 --> 01:02:05.700 And Russia and Turkey play an important part at the end, 01:02:05.733 --> 01:02:07.333 and I think Iran, obviously, 01:02:07.366 --> 01:02:08.733 is already playing an important part. 01:02:08.766 --> 01:02:10.466 So we're seeing the alignment. 01:02:10.500 --> 01:02:13.199 World War III, you know, people throw that around in order to 01:02:13.232 --> 01:02:15.766 scare up headlines and, you know, "If it bleeds, it leads," 01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:17.666 they used to say about newspapers. 01:02:17.700 --> 01:02:20.333 You know, if it's scary, it's clickbait, et cetera, et cetera. 01:02:20.366 --> 01:02:22.966 What we need to do is keep the main thing the main thing, which 01:02:22.999 --> 01:02:24.699 is that we keep looking up. 01:02:24.733 --> 01:02:26.699 Our redemption draws near. 01:02:26.732 --> 01:02:30.033 And we love as much as we can. 01:02:30.066 --> 01:02:32.799 Rebecca: Finally, what is some practical ways we can support? 01:02:32.832 --> 01:02:35.300 Jonathan: Yeah, I mean, prayer is the biggest one, 01:02:35.333 --> 01:02:38.666 'cause you could do that just, as you should, every single day. 01:02:38.699 --> 01:02:42.333 Pray for the people of Israel, pray for the Palestinian people, 01:02:42.366 --> 01:02:44.832 pray for everyone involved in this conflict. 01:02:44.866 --> 01:02:47.566 Pray for wisdom for the leadership of the nation of 01:02:47.600 --> 01:02:49.332 Israel, pray for wisdom for the leadership for the nations 01:02:49.366 --> 01:02:52.966 around the world that they have the wherewithal to stand 01:02:52.999 --> 01:02:55.266 with Israel during this hard time so that Israel can do 01:02:55.299 --> 01:02:57.466 what it has to do to survive. 01:02:57.500 --> 01:03:00.433 And then you can get involved however you feel led, 'cause in 01:03:00.466 --> 01:03:02.899 prayer God's gonna show you, whether that's evangelizing, 01:03:02.932 --> 01:03:06.599 whether that's giving resources, whether that is 01:03:06.633 --> 01:03:09.066 starting a podcast, I don't know. 01:03:09.099 --> 01:03:10.699 But God will show you. 01:03:10.732 --> 01:03:12.433 I would just start with prayer. 01:03:12.466 --> 01:03:15.300 Rebecca: And speaking of prayer, I feel like we should 01:03:15.333 --> 01:03:18.366 close out with prayer, so I'm gonna say a prayer 01:03:18.866 --> 01:03:21.866 Lord, we just thank you for the ability 01:03:21.900 --> 01:03:23.799 to just share your heart. 01:03:23.832 --> 01:03:26.399 God, I felt your presence in this podcast, Lord. 01:03:26.432 --> 01:03:29.499 We just come before you, Lord, and we collectively, even 01:03:29.533 --> 01:03:31.866 the people who are listening and watching right now, 01:03:31.900 --> 01:03:34.933 I just invite them to join us in this prayer that we pray 01:03:34.966 --> 01:03:36.466 for the peace of Jerusalem, God. 01:03:36.499 --> 01:03:38.033 And I thank you, Lord, 01:03:38.066 --> 01:03:41.366 that you are going to come back victorious. 01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.799 Lord, as the Lion of the tribe of Judah, 01:03:43.832 --> 01:03:45.899 you are gonna roar from Zion, Lord. 01:03:45.933 --> 01:03:48.200 And God, I just thank you. 01:03:48.233 --> 01:03:51.133 We just--I don't know, I don't even know exactly how to pray. 01:03:51.166 --> 01:03:53.766 I just feel so strongly, God, that you are going to do 01:03:53.799 --> 01:03:55.233 something, Father. 01:03:55.266 --> 01:03:57.632 And so, God, we come into agreement that your kingdom 01:03:57.666 --> 01:04:00.933 come, your will be done, God, that you are the Lion of the 01:04:00.966 --> 01:04:04.099 tribe of Judah, and you are going to release a roar from 01:04:04.132 --> 01:04:07.399 Zion, God, that you are coming back for your nation 01:04:07.433 --> 01:04:08.733 and for your people, God. 01:04:08.766 --> 01:04:10.099 And we come into agreement. 01:04:10.133 --> 01:04:12.099 We say, "Yes, Lord, let it happen, God." 01:04:12.132 --> 01:04:14.333 And we pray for the people in Israel right now, God. 01:04:14.366 --> 01:04:18.066 We pray that even in this conflict, in this turmoil, 01:04:18.099 --> 01:04:20.933 that people of all backgrounds would see you, Lord, 01:04:20.966 --> 01:04:23.233 and would turn to you in this time, because we 01:04:23.266 --> 01:04:25.699 always encounter you in our time of need. 01:04:25.733 --> 01:04:28.133 And God, I thank you that you're gonna show yourself faithful. 01:04:28.166 --> 01:04:31.099 And God, I thank you that the people who are watching, God, 01:04:31.132 --> 01:04:34.099 that you will stir within their hearts, as you're stirred within 01:04:34.133 --> 01:04:37.600 ours, to pick up the call, to pray for the peace of Jerusalem 01:04:37.633 --> 01:04:42.066 and to take up the call in your army, Lord, to pray and believe 01:04:42.100 --> 01:04:46.299 and to see your kingdom come here on earth as it is 01:04:46.333 --> 01:04:49.299 in heaven, that your kingdom would come to Israel, Father. 01:04:49.333 --> 01:04:51.632 And God, we pray for the believers, for the Messianic 01:04:51.666 --> 01:04:54.032 community, and Israel as well, Father, that you would 01:04:54.066 --> 01:04:56.700 strengthen and encourage them and all the people there, Lord. 01:04:56.733 --> 01:04:59.599 And I thank you, Lord, that you are moving and we are 01:04:59.632 --> 01:05:01.833 in agreement, in Jesus's name. 01:05:01.866 --> 01:05:04.333 Jonathan: Amen. Myles: Amen. 01:05:04.366 --> 01:05:07.033 Rebecca: All right, well, they're telling me to wrap so, 01:05:07.066 --> 01:05:08.599 guys, thank you so much for being here. 01:05:08.632 --> 01:05:10.732 We're honored. Please come back. 01:05:10.766 --> 01:05:12.299 Jonathan: Toda raba. 01:05:12.332 --> 01:05:13.666 Myles: Thank you so much for having me. 01:05:13.699 --> 01:05:15.366 Jonathan: As we say in Hebrew, ir, see you later. 01:05:15.399 --> 01:05:16.966 Rebecca: All right, see you next time 01:05:16.999 --> 01:05:17.832 on the "Rebecca Weiss Podcast."