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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HI, GUYS.

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I'M REALLY EXCITED TODAY

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BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOPICS,

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THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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AND I AM JOINED WITH
SENIOR PASTOR

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OF RADIANT CHURCH
IN MICHIGAN,

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PASTOR LEE CUMMINGS.

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LEE CUMMINGS: GREAT TO
BE HERE WITH YOU.

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REBECCA: OKAY.

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I WANT TO GET INTO THIS,

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BUT I WANT YOU TO GIVE A
LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND

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FOR OUR VIEWERS WHO MAY
NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.

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GIVE US A LITTLE
OF YOUR TESTIMONY,

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HOW DID YOU GET INTO
MINISTRY, ALL THAT.

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LEE: SURE.

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WELL, 12 YEARS OLD, I HAD AN
ENCOUNTER WITH THE LORD

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AT A VERY SMALL
LITTLE CHURCH.

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THE LORD BROKE INTO MY
REGULARLY-SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING

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AS A 12-YEAR-OLD
INSECURE KID

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FROM A BROKEN MARRIAGE,

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AND HE CALLED ME
TO SERVE HIM

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AND TO PREPARE
MYSELF FOR MINISTRY.

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SO MY TEEN YEARS WERE
REALLY DEDICATED TO

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GROWING IN THE WORD,

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GROWING IN THE LORD,

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SERVING IN A LOCAL CHURCH.

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WENT TO BIBLE COLLEGE.

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GOT KICKED OUT
OF BIBLE COLLEGE.

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IT WAS A NONCHARISMATIC,

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WHAT WOULD BE CALLED A
CESSATIONIST BIBLE COLLEGE.

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AND SO I WENT FOR A YEAR
AND A HALF OUT OF THAT,

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WAS NOT READMITTED.

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MET MY WIFE, GOT MARRIED,

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AND IN 1996,
TOGETHER WE PLANTED

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RADIANT CHURCH
IN KALAMAZOO.

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SO OVER THE
LAST 27 YEARS,

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IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE
PRIVILEGE TO SEE A CHURCH

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FROM THE VERY BEGINNING,

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TO WHAT IT IS TODAY,

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WHICH IS MULTISITE,
MULTITHOUSANDS.

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AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE
THE PRIVILEGE OF LEADING

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ABOUT 80 CHURCHES ACROSS
THE UNITED STATES

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CALLED THE
RADIANT NETWORK.

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AND ALSO LEAD SCHOOLS AND
A WORSHIP RECORDING LABEL,

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AND WRITE A FEW BOOKS,

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LIKE<i>SCHOOL OF THE SPIRIT.</i>

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REBECCA: OH,
MY GOODNESS,

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SO YOU'VE BEEN BUSY.

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LEE: WE'VE HAD
OUR HANDS FULL.

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REBECCA: YEAH. BUT IT'S ALL
POSSIBLE BY THE POWER

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AND THE ANOINTING OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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LEE: THAT'S
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

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REBECCA: WHICH WE'RE
GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.

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SO, TO START OFF,

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WHY DON'T YOU TALK
ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE SEEN

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IN THE CHURCH IN AMERICA

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IN TERMS OF THE
CHURCH'S RELATIONSHIP

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WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT
AND UNCHURCHED.

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LEE: THE SUBJECT OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS BEEN

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UP UNTIL I WOULD
SAY EVEN RECENTLY,

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A VERY POLARIZING SUBJECT.

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YOU HAVE ABOUT
HALF THE CHURCH

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THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THE
EXISTENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

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BUT DOESN'T HAVE
ANY EXPERIENTIAL

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OR RELATIONAL CONNECTIVITY
TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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AND THEN YOU HAVE,
IN TRADITIONAL LANGUAGE,

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THE PENTECOSTAL AND CHARISMATIC
WING OF THE CHURCH

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THAT HAS BEEN VERY OPEN

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AND VERY EXPERIENTIAL

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AND VERY CONNECTED TO THE
PERSON OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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AND RECENTLY WHAT I'VE
BEGUN TO SEE HAPPEN,

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AND WHEN I SAY RECENTLY,

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I MEAN MAYBE THE LAST,
LET'S CALL IT DECADE,

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IS YOU BEGIN TO
SEE THE IMPACT

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OF THE CHARISMATIC,
PENTECOSTAL WORLD

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ON THE EVANGELICAL WORLD.

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AND THE EVANGELICAL AND
THE SPIRIT-FILLED COMMUNITIES

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REALLY COMING TOGETHER

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IN A POWERFUL DUO
OF WORD AND SPIRIT.

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AND I THINK THAT'S
REALLY HOPEFUL.

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THERE'S ALWAYS GOING
TO BE LITTLE FRINGES

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OF PEOPLE THAT ARE KIND
OF HARDCORE LEGALISTIC

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AGAINST ANY PRESENT WORK
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TODAY.

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BUT THERE'S AN
INCREDIBLE HUNGER

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AND MORE THAN ANYTHING,
THAT'S WHAT I THINK MARKS

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WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW,

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A HUNGER FOR MORE.

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PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO KNOW MORE
ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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THEY WANT TO EXPERIENCE
MORE OF THAT.

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AND I THINK WE'RE POISEED
IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE

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TO SEE GOD BREAK IN
AND REVIVE THE CHURCH

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IN THE AREA OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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REBECCA: SO YOU SHARE
A STORY IN YOUR BOOK

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ABOUT HOW YOUR
GRANDFATHER TOOK YOU

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TO GET SOME CANDY.

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TELL US ABOUT THAT.

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LEE: YEAH, IT'S ONE
OF MY EARLIEST MEMORIES.

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REBECCA: HOW OLD WERE YOU?

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LEE: I PROBABLY WAS
FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OLD.

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MY GRANDFATHER WAS
HUGE IN MY LIFE,

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HE WAS LIKE A DAD.

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AND THERE WAS
A LITTLE STORE

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HE WOULD OFTENTIMES
TAKE ME TO

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AND IT HAD A HUGE
CANDY SECTION.

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AND BACK IN THE OLD
DAYS, OLD DAYS,

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THEY WOULD HAVE PENNY
CANDY, NICKEL CANDY,

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DIME CANDY AND
QUARTER CANDY.

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IT WAS ALL KIND OF
LOOSE AND IN JARS

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OR IN BOXES.

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AND SO HE SAID, LEE, I
WANT YOU TO GET SOMETHING.

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AND SO IMMEDIATELY I WENT
UP TO THE PENNY CANDY

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BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
I WAS USED TO,

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A LITTLE JAW BREAKER
OR WHATEVER,

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AND HE'S LIKE, NO, NO,
YOU DON'T WANT THAT.

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AND I KIND OF MOVED
DOWN THE AISLE

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TO THE NICKEL,
TO THE DIME,

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AND I GOT TO THE DIME
CANDY AND HE'S LIKE,

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NO, NO, YOU
DON'T WANT THAT.

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PICK SOMETHING BIGGER OUT.

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AND I GOT TO THE
QUARTER CANDY

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AND I THOUGHT, THERE
IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD

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HE'S GONNA LET
ME GET THIS.

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BUT HE'S LIKE, NO, NO,
PICK SOMETHING BIGGER.

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HE WANTED ME TO LIKE
GET THIS SLO POKE,

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THIS HUGE, MEGA-SIZED
SLO POKE OR SOMETHING.

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AND SO HE WAS TRYING
TO ENCOURAGE ME,

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BUT IT JUST BLEW MY MIND.

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AND SO HE SAID, NO, NO,
YOU DON'T WANT THAT,

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AND I LOOKED AT HIM AND I SAID,

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WELL, GRANDPA,
WHAT DO I WANT?

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AND HE JUST LAUGHED AT ME.

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HE JUST THOUGHT
THAT WAS SO FUNNY.

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BECAUSE IN HIS
MIND, IN HIS HEART,

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HE WANTED ME TO GET
SOMETHING SO SPECIAL,

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SO MEMORABLE,

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BUT IN MY
LIMITED THINKING

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AND MY EXPERIENCE,

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THERE WAS NO WAY
IN THE WORLD,

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I COULD EVEN BELIEVE FOR
A QUARTER PIECE OF CANDY.

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AND I THINK THAT
REALLY SETS THE STAGE

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FOR US TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT GOD WANTS

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FOR EVERY BELIEVER.

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EXCEEDINGLY, ABUNDANTLY,
ABOVE ALL WE COULD

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EVER ASK OR THINK.

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BUT SO MANY IN THE
CHURCH ARE LIMITED

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IN THEIR CAPACITY TO
BELIEVE WHAT GOD COULD DO,

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WANTS TO DO IN
THEIR LIFE OR AT ALL,

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BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERIENCE
OR THEIR BIAS

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OR THEIR INSECURITIES.

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REBECCA: THAT'S SO TRUE.

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IT'S SOMETHING I EVEN
STRUGGLED WITH MYSELF.

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I REMEMBER I GOT
A PROPHETIC WORD,

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NOW IT'S PROBABLY BEEN
ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO,

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AND HE SAID JUST
DREAM WITH GOD.

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AND I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY
HAVE THE CAPACITY

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TO EVEN DREAM.

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BECAUSE I HAD THAT
LIMITED THINKING.

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AND I THINK
LIKE YOU SAID,

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OUR EXPERIENCES, I
THINK HURT, YOU KNOW.

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LEE: YEAH.

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REBECCA: AND OUR
PERCEPTION OF GOD.

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I THINK A LOT OF US HAVE A
NOT ACCURATE PERCEPTION

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OF THE FATHER,

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AND SO WE DON'T
EVEN THINK,

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WE DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND
HOW MUCH HE LOVES US.

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AND SO WE DON'T ASK.

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BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES,

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IS HE ILLUMINATES
OUR HEARTS

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AND REVEALS THINGS WITHIN
US AND SHOWS US THE TRUTH

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AND EXPANDS OUR
UNDERSTANDING.

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AND I THINK THAT GOD HAS
SO MUCH TO GIVE THE CHURCH,

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AND HE DOES IT THE
WAY HE SET IT UP,

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TO BE THROUGH
THE HOLY SPIRIT,

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BUT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND
BECAUSE IT'S NOT TAUGHT A LOT.

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LEE: YEAH.

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REBECCA: AND THAT'S WHY
I THINK THIS BOOK

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IS SO IMPORTANT

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BECAUSE I REMEMBER
GOING TO BIBLE SCHOOL

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AND I GREW UP
PENTECOSTAL BACKGROUND.

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AND I KNEW ALL
ABOUT THE GIFTS

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AND THE POWER,

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BUT I DID NOT UNDERSTAND
THE PERSONHOOD.

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AND I REMEMBER
MY TEACHER,

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I WENT TO A REALLY
GREAT SCHOOL,

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SHOUT OUT, KING'S
UNIVERSITY, JACK HAYFORD.

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AND I'M PROUD OF
MY ALMA MATER.

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BUT I REMEMBER MY
PROFESSOR BEING LIKE

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THE HOLY SPIRIT
IS A PERSON.

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AND I PROBABLY LOOKED AT HIM
LIKE HE HAD THREE HEADS.

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I WAS LIKE, A PERSON?

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BECAUSE I NEVER ASSOCIATED
HIM AS A PERSON.

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AND I REMEMBER
BEGINNING TO BREAK DOWN

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AND I GOT A WHOLE
NEW FOUNDATION

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OF SCRIPTURAL TEACHING
TALKING ABOUT THAT.

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AND I THINK IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT, LIKE YOU SAID,

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IT HAS TO BE
WORD AND SPIRIT,

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BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU
FIND ONE OR THE OTHER.

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LEE: RIGHT.

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REBECCA: BUT I THINK
LIKE YOU SAID,

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THERE IS A MOVEMENT
WHERE I FEEL LIKE

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THEY'RE COMING TOGETHER NOW.

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WHEREAS MAYBE 30 YEARS
AGO, 40 YEARS AGO,

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IT WASN'T SUCH THE CASE.

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LEE: YEAH.

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AND WE MAKE A MISTAKE
WHEN WE POLARIZE

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THE HOLY SPIRIT
AND THE HOLY BIBLE.

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REBECCA: MM-HMM.

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LEE: WE THINK, WELL,
IT'S EITHER THE BIBLE

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OR IT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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WELL, THE HOLY SPIRIT
IS THE ONE WHO INSPIRED

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EVERY WORD THAT'S WRITTEN
IN OUR HOLY BIBLES.

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AND WHEN YOU
READ THE BIBLE,

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IT ALWAYS POINTS
YOU BACK TO JESUS,

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BUT JESUS ALWAYS TALKED
ABOUT THE ONE

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HE WAS GONNA SEND,
WHICH IS THE ONE

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WHO WOULD
LEAD US AND GUIDE US

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INTO ALL TRUTH.

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AND SO WE MAKE A MISTAKE
IN THE BODY OF CHRIST

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OF POLARIZING THEM OUT,

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OR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF
SETTING THEM

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ON OPPOSITE SIDES.

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AND IT'S LIKE, WELL,
ARE YOU A WORD PERSON

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OR ARE YOU A HOLY
SPIRIT PERSON?

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AND IT'S LIKE, YES.

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REBECCA: YEAH.

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LEE: WE NEED BOTH.

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AND, YOU KNOW, THE
TRINITY IS NOT

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THE FATHER, SON AND
HOLY BIBLE.

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IT'S THE FATHER,
SON AND HOLY SPIRIT.

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HE IS A PERSON,

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THIRD PERSON OF
THE TRIUNE GODHEAD.

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AND HE'S THE FORGOTTEN
PART OF THE GODHEAD

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THAT JESUS WANTS TO
REAWAKEN OUR HEARTS TO.

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REBECCA: AND WHAT
YOU SAY IS SO TRUE.

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IN SCRIPTURE, IT'S
THERE SO MANY TIMES.

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BUT, YOU KNOW,
IT'S LIKE -

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I LOVE THE WAY
YOU SAID IT,

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IT'S LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT
WILL LEAD YOU TO JESUS,

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JESUS REVEALS
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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BECAUSE IT'S THREE
IN ONE TRIUNE GOD.

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AND I WAS THINKING EVEN
THE CREATION OF THE WORLD,

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IT SAYS IN THE BEGINNING,
IT SAYS THE SPIRIT

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WAS HOVERING OVER THE WATERS.

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LEE: THAT'S RIGHT.

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REBECCA: HE WAS THERE.

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AND IT SAYS, YOU
KNOW, GOD SPOKE,

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AND IT'S LIKE HOW DO
YOU SPEAK THE WORD?

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THROUGH BREATH.

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AND SO YOU SEE
THE COMBINATION

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OF WORD AND SPIRIT

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EVEN IN THE CREATION
OF THE WORLD.

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AND SO WE'VE NEVER BEEN
MEANT TO SEPARATE THEM.

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BUT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL
LIKE THE ENEMY HAS,

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HE ALWAYS WANTS TO
DIVIDE THE CHURCH

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IN SO MANY
DIFFERENT WAYS,

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AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
WAYS HE'S DIVIDED IT.

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AND THERE'S
WHOLE, YOU KNOW,

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DENOMINATIONS OF PEOPLE

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MISSING OUT ON
THE PERSONHOOD

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AND THE POWER
AND THE GIFTINGS

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OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

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BECAUSE THE ENEMY HAS
WORKED OFFENSE IN PEOPLE.

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THEY GET OFFENDED AT
SOMETHING THAT A PERSON DID,

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NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT,

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AND THEN IT'S JUST A
TACTIC I SEE

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OVER AND OVER IS OFFENSE.

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YOU KNOW, WE GET
OFFENDED AND THEN WE JUDGE

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AND THEN WE SEPARATE.

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AND I THINK IT'S GREAT
THAT I FEEL LIKE

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THERE'S SUCH A
SHIFT, I THINK,

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BECAUSE OF THE TIMES
WE'RE LIVING IN,

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THERE'S THAT HUNGER THAT
WE'RE STARTING

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TO SEEK THAT OUT IN
SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

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AND I THINK PEOPLE
ARE STARTING TO SEE,

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HEY, IT'S NOT WHAT
YOU MIGHT THINK.

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THERE'S A LOT MORE
TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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LEE: YEAH.

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I THINK THAT'S SO GOOD.

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AND, YOU KNOW, WE BRING
TO OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD,

09:54.099 --> 09:58.200
OUR BIASES, OUR HUNGER
AND OUR OFFENSES.

09:58.300 --> 10:00.266
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT
WE BRING EVERY SINGLE DAY

10:00.366 --> 10:01.666
TO OUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD.

10:01.766 --> 10:05.832
SO IF YOU'VE GROWN UP IN
A RELIGIOUS ENVIRONMENT

10:05.932 --> 10:07.799
THAT SAID GOD DOESN'T DO
THESE THINGS ANYMORE,

10:07.899 --> 10:08.966
GOD DID THEM ONCE
UPON A TIME,

10:09.066 --> 10:10.832
BUT HE DOESN'T
DO THEM ANYMORE,

10:10.932 --> 10:14.800
THAT'S SET YOU UP AT A
CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPECTATION.

10:14.900 --> 10:16.066
BUT IF YOU'RE
OFFENDED AT GOD,

10:16.166 --> 10:17.333
MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN
IN A CHURCH,

10:17.433 --> 10:20.399
SEEN SOMETHING THAT
FELT OUT OF PLACE

10:20.499 --> 10:21.433
THROUGH AN INDIVIDUAL,

10:21.533 --> 10:24.199
OR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD
A BAD EXPERIENCE,

10:24.299 --> 10:26.533
THAT CAN CREATE AN
OFFENSE WITHIN YOUR HEART.

10:26.633 --> 10:28.166
MY EXPERIENCE IS, THOUGH,

10:28.266 --> 10:31.033
A LOT OF PEOPLE,
IT'S FEAR.

10:31.133 --> 10:32.933
IT'S FEAR-BASED BECAUSE
WE'RE AFRAID

10:33.033 --> 10:34.699
OF WHAT WE CAN'T CONTROL.

10:34.799 --> 10:37.532
AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
IS NOT GONNA BE TAMED.

10:37.632 --> 10:39.066
YOU KNOW, WHEN
HE COMES IN,

10:39.166 --> 10:41.900
HE COMES IN LIKE
THE WIND, JESUS SAID.

10:42.000 --> 10:43.433
YOU DON'T KNOW
WHERE HE CAME FROM,

10:43.533 --> 10:44.899
AND YOU DON'T KNOW
WHERE HE'S GOING,

10:44.999 --> 10:47.233
BUT WHEN HE COMES,
YOU SEE THE EFFECT.

10:47.333 --> 10:49.232
AND FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE, THERE'S A FEAR

10:49.332 --> 10:52.833
THAT IF I OPEN MYSELF UP TO
THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,

10:52.933 --> 10:54.800
MAYBE SOMETHING BAD'S
GONNA HAPPEN TO ME

10:54.900 --> 10:57.666
OR I'M GONNA LOSE
CONTROL OF MY LIFE

10:57.766 --> 11:02.499
OR OF MY TONGUE OR MY
HEART, MY EMOTIONS,

11:02.599 --> 11:04.666
AND WE DON'T LIKE
TO GIVE UP CONTROL.

11:04.766 --> 11:06.999
BUT THAT'S WHAT YIELDEDNESS
IS REALLY ALL ABOUT.

11:07.099 --> 11:08.800
AND THAT'S A BIG PART
OF WHAT IT MEANS

11:08.900 --> 11:11.333
TO BE LED BY THE
SPIRIT OF GOD.

11:11.433 --> 11:12.299
REBECCA: THAT'S SO TRUE.

11:12.399 --> 11:13.732
AND I THINK THE
WHOLE CHRISTIAN LIFE

11:13.832 --> 11:15.299
IS REALLY GIVING
UP CONTROL.

11:15.399 --> 11:16.599
AND I THINK THE
LONGER YOU LIVE,

11:16.699 --> 11:18.566
THE MORE YOU REALIZE
YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL.

11:18.666 --> 11:19.832
LEE: WE DON'T HAVE
THAT MUCH CONTROL.

11:19.932 --> 11:21.599
REBECCA: EVEN IF
YOU TRIED TO CONTROL,

11:21.699 --> 11:23.432
YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE
CONTROL IN YOUR LIFE.

11:23.532 --> 11:24.633
LEE: THAT'S TRUE.

11:24.733 --> 11:26.033
REBECCA: IT'S BETTER TO PUT IT
IN THE HANDS OF THE LORD

11:26.133 --> 11:27.633
AND LET HIM LEAD
AND GUIDE YOUR LIFE.

11:27.733 --> 11:28.766
LEE: YES.

11:28.866 --> 11:30.066
REBECCA: WHAT WOULD YOU
SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE

11:30.166 --> 11:31.500
WHO ARE AFRAID?

11:31.566 --> 11:33.433
LEE: YOU KNOW, THERE'S
A LOT OF DIFFERENT FEAR.

11:33.533 --> 11:37.500
ONE OF THE MOST COMMON
FEARS THAT I'VE COME ACROSS

11:37.600 --> 11:39.766
PASTORING PEOPLE
ALL THESE YEARS IS,

11:39.866 --> 11:43.399
I'M AFRAID THAT IF
I OPEN MY HEART

11:43.499 --> 11:46.366
TO THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
IN A PERSONAL WAY,

11:46.466 --> 11:48.833
THAT MAYBE I'M GOING
TO GET A DEMON.

11:48.933 --> 11:52.100
MAYBE, YOU KNOW,
IF I OPEN MYSELF UP,

11:52.200 --> 11:56.399
I'M GOING TO GET SOME
DEMONIC INFLUENCE.

11:56.499 --> 11:59.999
AND THAT SCARES PEOPLE,
ON A VERY REAL LEVEL.

12:00.099 --> 12:03.366
BUT JESUS ADDRESSES THIS
ISSUE IN LUKE CHAPTER 11.

12:03.466 --> 12:05.732
HE SAYS, YOU
EARTHLY FATHERS,

12:05.832 --> 12:08.400
HOW IS IT THAT YOU
GIVE GOOD GIFTS,

12:08.500 --> 12:09.600
YOU BEING EVIL,

12:09.700 --> 12:12.232
BUT HOW MUCH MORE WILL
YOUR FATHER

12:12.332 --> 12:15.132
GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT
TO YOU IF YOU ASK.

12:15.232 --> 12:17.000
IF YOU ASK HIM FOR
THE HOLY SPIRIT,

12:17.100 --> 12:21.666
HE'S NOT GOING TO GIVE
YOU A SNAKE OR A SERPENT.

12:21.766 --> 12:23.000
JESUS WAS MAKING
IT VERY CLEAR,

12:23.100 --> 12:25.633
WE DON'T HAVE
TO BE FEARFUL,

12:25.733 --> 12:27.466
THAT IF WE YIELD
OURSELVES TO HIM

12:27.566 --> 12:29.166
IN AN EXPERIENTIAL WAY,

12:29.266 --> 12:31.600
AND SAY, JESUS, I WANT
ALL THAT YOU HAVE,

12:31.700 --> 12:32.966
YOU SAID THAT YOU
WOULD BAPTIZE US

12:33.066 --> 12:34.266
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

12:34.366 --> 12:36.033
YOU SAID THAT WE'RE TO
CONTINUALLY BE FILLED

12:36.133 --> 12:37.532
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

12:37.632 --> 12:41.066
YOU SAID THAT THESE GIFTS
ARE AVAILABLE TO ANY OF US

12:41.166 --> 12:42.433
AND THAT WE SHOULD
ZEALOUSLY PURSUE

12:42.533 --> 12:44.032
ALL THE GIFTS OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

12:44.132 --> 12:45.933
SO I'M STEPPING OUT
AND SAYING, JESUS,

12:46.033 --> 12:47.499
I WANT THOSE.

12:47.599 --> 12:49.933
YOU DON'T HAVE
TO BE AFRAID

12:50.033 --> 12:52.266
BECAUSE THE ENEMY IS
NOT GONNA STEP IN -

12:52.366 --> 12:53.466
GOD'S NOT GONNA
ALLOW THE ENEMY

12:53.566 --> 12:55.366
TO HAVE ACCESS
TO YOUR HEART

12:55.466 --> 12:58.400
IF YOU ARE GENUINELY
INVITING HIM, GOD,

12:58.500 --> 13:00.033
TO DO A WORK IN YOUR LIFE.

13:00.133 --> 13:03.532
THAT'S, I THINK, ONE OF
THE MOST COMMON FEARS.

13:03.632 --> 13:06.766
REBECCA: SO
DIALING IT BACK,

13:06.866 --> 13:10.499
SPEAKING OF JESUS,
IS JESUS' LIFE,

13:10.599 --> 13:12.600
I DON'T THINK A LOT OF
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS,

13:12.700 --> 13:14.033
I DIDN'T LEARN THIS
UNTIL BIBLE SCHOOL,

13:14.133 --> 13:15.266
AND YOU TALK ABOUT
THIS IN YOUR BOOK,

13:15.366 --> 13:17.033
IS THAT HIS LIFE IS
ACTUALLY AN EXAMPLE

13:17.133 --> 13:18.999
FOR BELIEVERS TO FOLLOW.

13:19.099 --> 13:19.933
LEE: YEAH.

13:20.033 --> 13:20.999
REBECCA: HE WAS
THE PERFECT EXAMPLE

13:21.099 --> 13:22.466
OF WHAT GOD HAS CALLED
US TO BE, RIGHT?

13:22.566 --> 13:23.999
LEE: THAT'S RIGHT.

13:24.099 --> 13:25.900
REBECCA: AND I THINK A
LOT OF PEOPLE JUST THINK

13:26.000 --> 13:30.066
JESUS WAS GOD, AND ONLY
HE COULD DO WHAT HE DID,

13:30.166 --> 13:33.366
BUT JESUS SAYS YOU WILL DO
GREATER THINGS IN MY NAME.

13:33.466 --> 13:34.199
LEE: YEAH.

13:34.299 --> 13:37.433
REBECCA: AND SO
EXPLAIN HOW JESUS

13:37.533 --> 13:38.766
HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT

13:38.866 --> 13:40.766
AND DID MINISTRY
THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

13:40.866 --> 13:42.099
LEE: YEAH.

13:42.199 --> 13:45.499
LUKE WRITES IN ACTS
CHAPTER 10, VERSE 38,

13:45.599 --> 13:46.699
HE SAYS AFTER THE FACT,

13:46.799 --> 13:49.166
HE SAYS HOW GOD ANOINTED
JESUS OF NAZARETH

13:49.266 --> 13:51.100
WITH THE HOLY
SPIRIT AND POWER

13:51.200 --> 13:52.300
WHO WENT ABOUT DOING GOOD

13:52.400 --> 13:53.566
AND HEALING ALL OF THOSE
WHO WERE OPPRESSED

13:53.666 --> 13:55.733
BY THE ENEMY, OR BY THE DEVIL.

13:55.833 --> 13:57.133
SO THINK ABOUT THAT.

13:57.233 --> 13:58.899
LUKE IS RECORDING FOR US

13:58.999 --> 14:01.666
THAT THE WAY JESUS DID MINISTRY

14:01.766 --> 14:04.800
WAS NOT BY ACCESSING
HIS DIVINITY.

14:04.900 --> 14:05.732
HE COULD HAVE.

14:05.832 --> 14:06.833
HE WAS GOD.

14:06.933 --> 14:09.099
BUT PAUL WRITES IN
PHILIPPIANS CHAPTER 2,

14:09.199 --> 14:10.566
LET THE SAME
ATTITUDE BE IN YOU

14:10.666 --> 14:12.332
WHICH WAS ALSO
IN CHRIST JESUS,

14:12.432 --> 14:14.133
WHO BEING IN
THE FORM OF GOD

14:14.233 --> 14:16.166
DID NOT CONSIDER
EQUALITY WITH GOD

14:16.266 --> 14:17.333
SOMETHING TO BE GRASPED,

14:17.433 --> 14:19.400
BUT HE EMPTIED HIMSELF,

14:19.500 --> 14:22.566
CAME IN THE FORM OF A SERVANT
IN THE LIKENESS OF MEN.

14:22.666 --> 14:24.233
SO IT SAYS HE
EMPTIED HIMSELF.

14:24.333 --> 14:25.566
SO THERE WAS A
PERIOD OF TIME

14:25.666 --> 14:27.966
WHERE JESUS, THE
ETERNAL WORD OF GOD,

14:28.066 --> 14:32.366
STEPPED INTO HISTORY AND
ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE LIMITED.

14:32.466 --> 14:34.166
AND ONE OF THE WAYS
THAT HE WAS LIMITED WAS

14:34.266 --> 14:37.066
HE DIDN'T ALWAYS
ACCESS HIS DIVINITY

14:37.166 --> 14:38.533
IN ORDER TO
PERFORM MIRACLES.

14:38.633 --> 14:40.100
TOO MANY PEOPLE
MAKE THAT MISTAKE.

14:40.200 --> 14:41.666
THEY THINK, WELL, OF
COURSE HE DID THAT,

14:41.766 --> 14:42.733
HE'S GOD.

14:42.833 --> 14:44.566
HE COULD HAVE,
BUT HE DIDN'T.

14:44.666 --> 14:46.499
AND WE SEE IN THE GOSPELS

14:46.599 --> 14:49.732
THAT JESUS DID NOT
PERFORM ONE MIRACLE,

14:49.832 --> 14:50.800
PREACH ONE SERMON,

14:50.900 --> 14:52.166
CAST OUT ONE DEMON,

14:52.266 --> 14:54.633
UNTIL AFTER HIS BAPTISM

14:54.733 --> 14:56.866
WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT
CAME LIKE A DOVE

14:56.966 --> 14:59.233
AND RESTED UPON HIM.

14:59.333 --> 15:01.333
THAT'S WHAT LUKE
IS REFERRING TO.

15:01.433 --> 15:02.633
FROM THAT DAY FORWARD,

15:02.733 --> 15:05.366
IMMEDIATELY HE WAS DRIVEN
INTO THE WILDERNESS.

15:05.466 --> 15:07.166
IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT
WE RECOGNIZE

15:07.266 --> 15:08.800
THAT THE DEVIL RECOGNIZED HIM

15:08.900 --> 15:10.433
AND CAME AND TEMPTED HIM.

15:10.533 --> 15:11.999
AND HE BEGINS
HIS MINISTRY.

15:12.099 --> 15:14.266
AND THROUGHOUT ALL
OF HIS MINISTRY,

15:14.366 --> 15:17.532
IT WAS MARKED
BY A DEPENDENCY

15:17.632 --> 15:20.733
IN THE POWER OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT UPON HIS LIFE.

15:20.833 --> 15:22.232
HE WAS ANOINTED.

15:22.332 --> 15:24.432
THAT'S REALLY WHAT
CHRIST MEANS, BY THE WAY.

15:24.532 --> 15:27.833
CHRIST IS NOT
JESUS' LAST TIME.

15:27.933 --> 15:29.032
YOU COULDN'T LOOK
UP IN A PHONE BOOK

15:29.132 --> 15:30.966
AND GO JESUS
AND THEN CHRIST.

15:31.066 --> 15:33.333
IT MEANT JESUS,
THE ANOINTED ONE.

15:33.433 --> 15:34.566
WELL, WHAT WAS
HE ANOINTED WITH?

15:34.666 --> 15:36.332
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

15:36.432 --> 15:39.033
JESUS WAS ANOINTED
BY THE HOLY SPIRIT,

15:39.133 --> 15:43.133
AND HIS POWER WAS A RESULT
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT UPON HIM.

15:43.233 --> 15:48.166
JESUS DID THAT IN ORDER
TO GIVE US A PATTERN

15:48.266 --> 15:51.766
AS A PROTOTYPE OF HOW
WE AS HIS DISCIPLES

15:51.866 --> 15:53.866
SHOULD DO MINISTRY.

15:53.966 --> 15:56.566
THIS IS WHAT HE TAUGHT HIS
DISCIPLES FOR THREE YEARS.

15:56.666 --> 15:57.999
THIS IS WHAT HE
HANDS OFF TO THEM

15:58.099 --> 15:59.866
IN ACTS CHAPTER 1,

15:59.966 --> 16:01.066
AWAITING ACTS CHAPTER 2,

16:01.166 --> 16:02.966
AN OUTPOURING OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

16:03.066 --> 16:04.533
AND THAT'S HOW WE SEE
THE EARLY CHURCH

16:04.633 --> 16:06.232
FUNCTIONING AND OPERATING.

16:06.332 --> 16:09.833
UNFORTUNATELY, AT SOME
POINT IN CHURCH HISTORY,

16:09.933 --> 16:11.633
WE BECAME CONVINCED

16:11.733 --> 16:14.166
THAT WE COULD DO IT
IN OUR OWN STRENGTH,

16:14.266 --> 16:17.466
AND BY OUR OWN METHODS
AND OUR OWN INTELLECT,

16:17.566 --> 16:20.166
AND THAT WE DIDN'T NEED
THE HOLY SPIRIT ANY LONGER.

16:20.266 --> 16:21.900
AND THAT'S WHAT'S LED TO
MANY OF THE PROBLEMS

16:22.000 --> 16:23.133
IN THE CHURCH.

16:23.233 --> 16:24.633
REBECCA: WOW.

16:24.733 --> 16:28.599
HOW DID THE HOLY
SPIRIT IMPACT, BECAUSE -

16:28.699 --> 16:30.033
WELL, THERE'S TWO THINGS
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT,

16:30.133 --> 16:32.300
SO I'M GONNA FOCUS ON ONE.

16:32.400 --> 16:34.266
HOW DID THE HOLY
SPIRIT IMPACT

16:34.366 --> 16:36.366
JESUS' RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE FATHER?

16:36.466 --> 16:37.333
HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?

16:37.433 --> 16:38.466
BECAUSE I EVEN
THINK THAT'S KIND OF

16:38.566 --> 16:40.133
DEMONSTRATED
IN THE GOSPELS.

16:40.233 --> 16:41.833
LEE: YEAH.

16:41.933 --> 16:45.966
YOU KNOW, THE HOLY SPIRIT,
THE TRIUNITY OF GOD,

16:46.066 --> 16:47.066
THE FATHER, SON
AND HOLY SPIRIT,

16:47.166 --> 16:49.200
IS SUCH A GREAT MYSTERY

16:49.300 --> 16:50.299
OF HOW THAT HAPPENS.

16:50.399 --> 16:52.266
BUT WHAT WE DO IS THAT

16:52.366 --> 16:54.066
EVEN BEFORE THE
FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD

16:54.166 --> 16:56.033
WERE EVER ESTABLISHED,

16:56.133 --> 16:58.300
JESUS, THE FATHER,
OR THE WORD,

16:58.400 --> 16:59.666
THE FATHER AND THE SPIRIT

16:59.766 --> 17:01.466
WERE IN PERFECT COMMUNITY.

17:01.566 --> 17:02.700
IT WAS PERFECT LOVE.

17:02.800 --> 17:04.200
IT WAS PERFECT COMMUNITY.

17:04.300 --> 17:06.199
WELL, THAT DID NOT
CHANGE WHEN JESUS

17:06.299 --> 17:09.866
STEPPED INTO HISTORY
AND INTO HUMANITY.

17:09.966 --> 17:12.100
AND SO THERE WAS THIS
RELATIONSHIP WHERE

17:12.200 --> 17:14.433
VERY OFTEN JESUS
WOULD GET AWAY

17:14.533 --> 17:16.399
AND HE WOULD GO
AND HE WOULD PRAY.

17:16.499 --> 17:18.266
AND HE WOULD PRAY
TO THE FATHER,

17:18.366 --> 17:20.866
SOMETIMES ALL NIGHT LONG.

17:20.966 --> 17:21.932
THE BIBLE
RECORDS, IT SAYS,

17:22.032 --> 17:23.866
HE WENT TO A
DESOLATE PLACE

17:23.966 --> 17:25.633
AND HE WOULD PRAY, HE
WOULD PRAY TO THE FATHER.

17:25.733 --> 17:28.899
AND I KNOW THE HOLY SPIRIT
WAS PRESENT THERE AS WELL.

17:28.999 --> 17:31.133
SO IT'S THIS
REUNION OF SORTS,

17:31.233 --> 17:32.766
OF FATHER, SON
AND HOLY SPIRIT.

17:32.866 --> 17:34.366
AND THEN YOU WOULD
SEE JESUS COME

17:34.466 --> 17:37.099
AND IT SAYS HE CAME OUT OF THE
WILDERNESS OF TEMPTATION,

17:37.199 --> 17:38.833
CAME OFF THE MOUNTAIN,

17:38.933 --> 17:42.200
AND HE CAME IN THE POWER
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

17:42.300 --> 17:44.566
SO THERE WAS THIS
DIVINE PARTNERSHIP

17:44.666 --> 17:46.399
BETWEEN FATHER, SON
AND HOLY SPIRIT

17:46.499 --> 17:48.499
THAT MARKED
JESUS' MINISTRY.

17:48.599 --> 17:49.633
AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

17:49.733 --> 17:51.000
AND IT'S A PROTOTYPE OF
HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED

17:51.100 --> 17:52.600
TO DO MINISTRY HERE.

17:52.700 --> 17:54.133
JESUS REVEALS THE FATHER,

17:54.233 --> 17:56.233
THE FATHER HAS
GIVEN THE SON,

17:56.333 --> 17:58.666
AND THE SON SENDS
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

17:58.766 --> 18:00.466
IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

18:00.566 --> 18:01.800
AND IF WE ONLY GET
TWO OUT OF THREE,

18:01.900 --> 18:03.366
WE'RE MISSING
OUT ON SO MUCH.

18:03.466 --> 18:05.466
BECAUSE THE HOLY
SPIRIT IS MEANT TO BE

18:05.566 --> 18:07.699
SO MUCH MORE THAN
A SILENT PARTNER.

18:07.799 --> 18:08.533
I MEAN, THINK ABOUT IT.

18:08.633 --> 18:11.166
IF YOU LIVED ON
A DESERT ISLAND,

18:11.266 --> 18:13.899
HAD NEVER READ
THE BIBLE BEFORE,

18:13.999 --> 18:15.299
SOMEBODY HANDS YOU
A BIBLE AND SAYS

18:15.399 --> 18:16.733
START HERE IN MATTHEW

18:16.833 --> 18:18.766
AND READ THROUGH
THE BOOK OF ACTS,

18:18.866 --> 18:20.666
GOSPELS AND ACTS.

18:20.766 --> 18:23.799
AND THEN AFTER READING
THAT, THEY ASKED YOU

18:23.899 --> 18:25.600
IF YOU WERE CALLED
TO BE A DISCIPLE

18:25.700 --> 18:27.399
OF THIS ONE CALLED JESUS,

18:27.499 --> 18:29.166
HOW WOULD YOU BELIEVE

18:29.266 --> 18:31.066
THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED
TO DO MINISTRY?

18:31.166 --> 18:33.166
NOBODY WOULD BE
A CESSATIONIST.

18:33.266 --> 18:36.199
NOBODY WOULD COME UP WITH
THE ANSWERS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

18:36.299 --> 18:37.966
WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT
PATTERN AND SAY,

18:38.066 --> 18:39.199
THIS IS WHAT JESUS DID,

18:39.299 --> 18:40.933
THIS IS WHAT JESUS SAID,

18:41.033 --> 18:42.266
THIS IS WHAT HIS
DISCIPLES DID,

18:42.366 --> 18:44.066
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO DO.

18:44.166 --> 18:46.333
WE'VE COMPLICATED
IT SO MUCH.

18:46.433 --> 18:47.966
REBECCA: THERE IS A PROFOUND
VERSE WHERE IT SAYS

18:48.066 --> 18:49.633
THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT
SEARCHES

18:49.733 --> 18:51.732
THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD

18:51.832 --> 18:53.066
AND LIKE REVEALS
THAT TO US.

18:53.166 --> 18:55.100
I'M NOT QUOTING
IT PERFECTLY.

18:55.200 --> 18:56.566
LEE: 1 CORINTHIANS
CHAPTER 2.

18:56.666 --> 18:58.399
REBECCA: YES.

18:58.499 --> 19:00.899
AND IT JUST SHOWS THAT -

19:00.999 --> 19:02.699
I'LL TRY TO WORD
THIS CORRECTLY.

19:02.799 --> 19:06.766
BUT THAT JESUS SENDS
THE HOLY SPIRIT

19:06.866 --> 19:09.800
AFTER HE ASCENDS.

19:09.900 --> 19:12.066
AND BEFORE HE, YOU
KNOW, DIES ON THE CROSS

19:12.166 --> 19:14.466
AND BEFORE HE ASCENDS TO
HEAVEN 40 DAYS LATER,

19:14.566 --> 19:18.399
HE STARTS UNPACKING
IT TO HIS DISCIPLES.

19:18.499 --> 19:21.032
AND HE'S DESCRIBING
WHO THE HOLY SPIRIT IS.

19:21.132 --> 19:24.700
AND HE SAYS THAT HE WILL
REVEAL JESUS TO THEM.

19:24.800 --> 19:27.866
AND HE WILL ONLY SPEAK
WHAT THE LORD TELLS THEM.

19:27.966 --> 19:29.799
I FEEL LIKE I'M
BOTCHING THIS SCRIPTURE.

19:29.899 --> 19:31.066
LEE: YOU'RE
DOING GREAT.

19:31.166 --> 19:33.766
REBECCA: BREAK DOWN WHAT JESUS
WAS TELLING HIS DISCIPLES,

19:33.866 --> 19:36.099
I'M THINKING LIKE
JOHN 14, 15, 16.

19:36.199 --> 19:36.832
LEE: YEAH.

19:36.932 --> 19:38.466
THOSE ARE
POWERFUL CHAPTERS.

19:38.566 --> 19:40.533
CHAPTER 13 THROUGH 17,

19:40.633 --> 19:42.766
FINISHING WITH HIS
HIGH PRIESTLY PRAYER,

19:42.866 --> 19:44.533
IT'S THE LAST FEW DAYS
THAT JESUS HAS

19:44.633 --> 19:46.433
WITH HIS DISCIPLES, RIGHT?

19:46.533 --> 19:48.966
AND SO WHAT YOU SAY
LAST MATTERS THE MOST.

19:49.066 --> 19:50.933
AND SO WHAT JESUS
ZEROS IN ON

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IN JOHN 14 THROUGH 16,

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IS HE SAYS TO
HIS DISCIPLES,

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HE SAYS, I'M GOING AWAY.

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HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE CROSS
AND THE RESURRECTION.

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HE SAYS I'M GOING AWAY,

20:01.233 --> 20:04.466
BUT IT'S TO YOUR
ADVANTAGE THAT I GO AWAY,

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BECAUSE IF I
DON'T DEPART,

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THE COMFORTER, THE HOLY
SPIRIT, THE HELPER,

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WILL NOT BE SENT TO YOU.

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AND THEN HE DESCRIBES HIM.

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HE SAYS HE'S GONNA LEAD
AND GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH.

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HE SAID HE WILL
TAKE UP IN HIS MIND

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AND GIVE IT TO YOU.

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HE'LL CALL INTO
REMEMBRANCE EVERYTHING

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I'VE GIVEN TO YOU.

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AND HE SAYS I WILL NOT
LEAVE YOU AS ORPHANS,

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BUT I'M GOING TO
SEND A HELPER.

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AND THAT WORD HELPER IS
A GREEK WORD<i>PARACLETE.</i>

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IT MEANS ONE WHO COMES
UP ALONGSIDE AND HELPS.

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THINK OF LIKE A SHERPA.

20:36.232 --> 20:37.266
IF YOU'RE CLIMBING
MOUNT EVEREST,

20:37.366 --> 20:38.699
THEY ALWAYS ASSIGNED
A SHERPA TO YOU.

20:38.799 --> 20:39.932
IT CARRIES YOUR LUGGAGE,

20:40.032 --> 20:41.032
SHOWS YOU THE WAY,

20:41.132 --> 20:42.866
IT BEARS THE
BURDEN FOR YOU.

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THAT'S WHAT JESUS SAYS THE
HOLY SPIRIT'S GONNA DO.

20:45.366 --> 20:46.733
AND HE'S VERY CLEAR,

20:46.833 --> 20:48.899
HE SAYS HE'S NOT JUST
GONNA COME UPON YOU,

20:48.999 --> 20:50.866
HE'S GONNA DWELL
WITHIN YOU.

20:50.966 --> 20:52.300
IF I'M ONE OF
THE DISCIPLES

20:52.400 --> 20:54.433
AND I HEAR JESUS SAY THAT,

20:54.533 --> 20:57.600
I'M SAYING, HOW IS
IT ADVANTAGEOUS

20:57.700 --> 20:58.900
FOR YOU TO GO AWAY?

20:59.000 --> 21:00.666
HOW IS IT GOING
TO GET ANY BETTER?

21:00.766 --> 21:02.033
BUT JESUS SAID IT IS.

21:02.133 --> 21:04.866
AND THE REASON WHY IS
WHEN JESUS WAS HERE,

21:04.966 --> 21:07.066
HE COULD ONLY BE AT
ONE PLACE ONE TIME

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WITH A CERTAIN
GROUP OF 12,

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MAYBE A FEW MORE.

21:12.133 --> 21:15.500
BUT SINCE JESUS SENT THE
HOLY SPIRIT TO THE CHURCH,

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HE'S NOT JUST
WITH ALL OF US,

21:17.699 --> 21:19.533
HE'S IN US.

21:19.633 --> 21:21.733
AND JESUS SAID THAT
IS THE X FACTOR.

21:21.833 --> 21:23.666
THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE
OF THE CHURCH.

21:23.766 --> 21:26.200
AND HERE IT IS, JESUS
GIVES US THE CLUE

21:26.300 --> 21:27.966
ABOUT WHO THE
HOLY SPIRIT IS,

21:28.066 --> 21:29.499
THAT HE'S GONNA
DWELL WITHIN US,

21:29.599 --> 21:31.966
WE'RE HIS TEMPLE.

21:32.066 --> 21:34.333
AND HE SAYS THAT'S
YOUR ADVANTAGE.

21:34.433 --> 21:35.699
BUT YET HERE WE
SEE THE CHURCH,

21:35.799 --> 21:37.866
ESPECIALLY IN
WEST, IN THE WEST,

21:37.966 --> 21:40.433
WESTERN CIVILIZATION,

21:40.533 --> 21:43.233
WHERE WE'VE GOT THIS
INCREDIBLE ADVANTAGE,

21:43.333 --> 21:44.833
THIS X FACTOR,

21:44.933 --> 21:47.233
BUT WE NEGATE IT 90
PERCENT OF THE TIME,

21:47.333 --> 21:50.066
OR HOWEVER MANY
PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME.

21:50.166 --> 21:52.299
BUT WE DON'T LEAN INTO IT.

21:52.399 --> 21:54.866
AND MY EXPERIENCE IS,

21:54.966 --> 21:57.399
WE NEED TO LEAN INTO EVERY
ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE.

21:57.499 --> 22:00.599
AND IF THE HOLY SPIRIT
IS GONNA GLORIFY JESUS,

22:00.699 --> 22:02.633
HE'S GONNA REVEAL
MORE AND MORE

22:02.733 --> 22:04.666
OF THE THINGS THAT
JESUS HAS GIVEN TO US,

22:04.766 --> 22:06.699
THE SCRIPTURE YOU
MADE REFERENCE TO

22:06.799 --> 22:09.132
IS 1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER
2 WHERE IT SAYS,

22:09.232 --> 22:11.599
IT'S THE SPIRIT OF GOD
THAT SEARCHES OUT

22:11.699 --> 22:13.766
THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD.

22:13.866 --> 22:15.266
SO WE HAVE TWO
GREAT INTERCESSORS,

22:15.366 --> 22:17.999
JESUS, WHO SITS AT THE
RIGHT HAND OF GOD THE FATHER,

22:18.099 --> 22:21.066
INTERCEDING FOR US
AS OUR HIGH PRIEST.

22:21.166 --> 22:22.632
AND THEN WE HAVE
THE HOLY SPIRIT,

22:22.732 --> 22:24.199
WHO, ACCORDING
TO ROMANS 8,

22:24.299 --> 22:26.599
MAKES INTERCESSION FOR
US WITH GROANINGS

22:26.699 --> 22:28.766
AND UTTERANCES
TOO DEEP FOR WORDS

22:28.866 --> 22:30.733
ACCORDING TO
THE WILL OF GOD.

22:30.833 --> 22:33.300
SO WE HAVE TWO GREAT
INTERCESSORS ON OUR BEHALF.

22:33.400 --> 22:35.600
ONE IN HEAVEN, ONE IN US.

22:35.700 --> 22:37.666
THIS IS OUR
INCREDIBLE ADVANTAGE.

22:37.766 --> 22:39.166
REBECCA: AND
SPEAKING OF THAT VERSE,

22:39.266 --> 22:42.199
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS,

22:42.299 --> 22:43.666
THAT VERY VERSE
YOU WERE QUOTING,

22:43.766 --> 22:45.733
THE VERSE THAT
COMES AFTER THAT,

22:45.833 --> 22:49.033
AND GOD WORKS TOGETHER
FOR THE GOOD OF THOSE -

22:49.133 --> 22:51.166
ALL THINGS TOGETHER FOR THE
GOOD OF THOSE WHO LOVE HIM

22:51.266 --> 22:52.366
ACCORDING TO HIS PURPOSE.

22:52.466 --> 22:54.933
BUT RIGHT BEFORE IT
IT'S TALKING ABOUT

22:55.033 --> 22:57.366
HOW THE HOLY SPIRIT
INTERCEDES THROUGH US.

22:57.466 --> 22:59.066
I REMEMBER, I THINK
IT WAS JACK HAYFORD,

22:59.166 --> 23:01.032
HE SAID WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED
TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO.

23:01.132 --> 23:01.833
LEE: RIGHT.

23:01.933 --> 23:03.533
REBECCA: HOW
DOES GOD WORK IT,

23:03.633 --> 23:04.966
HE INTERCEDES THROUGH US

23:05.066 --> 23:06.066
AND THROUGH THE
HOLY SPIRIT

23:06.166 --> 23:07.832
AND THEN HE WORKS
IT ALL TOGETHER.

23:07.932 --> 23:09.866
BUT SO MANY TIMES WE
CHOP UP THE BIBLE,

23:09.966 --> 23:11.100
AND WE SEPARATE THINGS
THAT AREN'T MEANT

23:11.200 --> 23:11.966
TO BE SEPARATED.

23:12.066 --> 23:12.899
LEE: THAT'S SO TRUE.

23:12.999 --> 23:14.132
REBECCA: ANOTHER THING,
YOU ACTUALLY LED

23:14.232 --> 23:16.332
TO MY NEXT QUESTION
IN ROMANS 8,

23:16.432 --> 23:19.932
IS IT TALKS ABOUT
HOW BY THE SPIRIT WE CRY,

23:20.032 --> 23:22.100
I THINK IT SAYS,
ABBA FATHER.

23:22.200 --> 23:23.432
AND I WAS THINKING WHEN
JESUS IS SPEAKING

23:23.532 --> 23:24.433
TO HIS DISCIPLES,

23:24.533 --> 23:26.966
HE SAYS, I WILL NOT
LEAVE YOU AS ORPHANS.

23:27.066 --> 23:29.900
AND HOW THE HOLY SPIRIT,
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE DOES,

23:30.000 --> 23:33.833
IS HE REMINDS US OF
OUR SONSHIP IN HIM.

23:33.933 --> 23:35.899
AND WHEN WE'RE BORN
INTO THIS WORLD,

23:35.999 --> 23:37.333
WE'RE ALL BORN INTO SIN.

23:37.433 --> 23:39.233
WE'RE ALL BORN
REJECTED BY GOD.

23:39.333 --> 23:40.200
LEE: YEAH.

23:40.300 --> 23:42.066
REBECCA: BUT WHEN
WE RECEIVE SALVATION,

23:42.166 --> 23:44.766
WE ARE ACCEPTED BECAUSE
OF THE BLOOD OF JESUS.

23:44.866 --> 23:47.266
SO SPEAK TO HOW
THE HOLY SPIRIT

23:47.366 --> 23:49.933
TEACHES US THAT WE
ARE NO LONGER ORPHANS

23:50.033 --> 23:51.666
AND TAKES THAT
ORPHAN MENTALITY

23:51.766 --> 23:53.833
AND TEACHES US SONSHIP.

23:53.933 --> 23:55.532
LEE: WELL, THAT'S
EXACTLY RIGHT.

23:55.632 --> 23:58.133
ROMANS 8 SAYS THAT
THOSE WHO ARE

23:58.233 --> 23:59.399
SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD

23:59.499 --> 24:02.199
ARE THOSE WHO ARE LED
BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

24:02.299 --> 24:05.699
ONE OF THE PARTS
OF OUR INHERITANCE

24:05.799 --> 24:08.232
THAT IS GIVEN TO US
AS CHILDREN OF GOD

24:08.332 --> 24:10.032
IS THE HOLY
SPIRIT LEADS US.

24:10.132 --> 24:12.866
SO IF YOU'RE LED BY
THE SPIRIT OF GOD,

24:12.966 --> 24:14.599
THAT MEANS YOU'RE
A CHILD OF GOD.

24:14.699 --> 24:18.366
AND THEN IT SAYS THAT
HIS SPIRIT INSIDE OF US

24:18.466 --> 24:20.866
CRIES OUT, ABBA FATHER.

24:20.966 --> 24:23.332
IT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT
WHO TEACHES US

24:23.432 --> 24:25.233
WHO WE ARE.

24:25.333 --> 24:28.299
HE SPEAKS INTO
OUR IDENTITY.

24:28.399 --> 24:31.233
ROMANS 8 ALSO SAYS
THAT WE'RE NO LONGER

24:31.333 --> 24:33.932
SUBJECT TO BONDAGE,

24:34.032 --> 24:35.699
TO THE BONDAGE
OF THE LAW,

24:35.799 --> 24:37.932
OR THE BONDAGE OF SIN.

24:38.032 --> 24:39.666
BECAUSE IT'S THE HOLY
SPIRIT WHO WORKS IN US

24:39.766 --> 24:41.466
IN SALVATION,

24:41.566 --> 24:43.066
AND PART OF THE
SANCTIFYING WORK

24:43.166 --> 24:44.666
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

24:44.766 --> 24:47.233
IS HE'S REVEALING
TO US WHO GOD IS,

24:47.333 --> 24:49.399
BUT HE'S ALSO
REVEALING WHO WE ARE.

24:49.499 --> 24:52.433
HE ACTUALLY GIVES
US THE ABILITY

24:52.533 --> 24:54.132
TO SAY TO GOD,

24:54.232 --> 24:55.299
YOU'RE MY FATHER.

24:55.399 --> 24:58.566
AND THERE'S MORE TO
THAT THAN JUST WORDS.

24:58.666 --> 25:00.633
IT'S ONE THING TO
CALL SOMEONE FATHER.

25:00.700 --> 25:03.266
YOU KNOW, I'VE PASTORED
SO MANY PEOPLE

25:03.366 --> 25:05.266
THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH
THE ADOPTION PROCESS,

25:05.366 --> 25:10.466
ESPECIALLY WITH OLDER
KIDS, FIVE, SIX YEARS OLD.

25:10.566 --> 25:14.999
AND WHEN A CHILD HAS BEEN
AN ORPHAN IN AN ORPHANAGE

25:15.099 --> 25:17.466
FOR THE FIRST FIVE OR SIX
FORMATIVE YEARS OF THEIR LIFE,

25:17.566 --> 25:19.733
ESPECIALLY BOYS,

25:19.833 --> 25:23.099
THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED
DETACHMENT DISORDER,

25:23.199 --> 25:24.933
WHERE THEY'VE NOT
BEEN NURTURED.

25:25.033 --> 25:27.432
ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT A FATHER DOES,

25:27.532 --> 25:29.400
IS HE COMMUNICATES
IDENTITY.

25:29.500 --> 25:31.832
AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD
THAT IN THEIR LIFE.

25:31.932 --> 25:33.266
AND SO IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT FOR PARENTS

25:33.366 --> 25:34.233
WHEN THEY ADOPT A CHILD

25:34.333 --> 25:36.899
THAT'S FIVE OR
SIX YEARS OLD OR OLDER,

25:36.999 --> 25:41.266
BECAUSE THE CHILD CAN
SAY THE RIGHT THINGS.

25:41.366 --> 25:43.966
HE MIGHT CALL THEM DAD.

25:44.066 --> 25:46.899
BUT HIS HEART DOESN'T
BELIEVE YET THAT HE REALLY

25:46.999 --> 25:49.532
IS LOVED AND ACCEPTED.

25:49.632 --> 25:52.133
AND THAT TAKES
A LONG TIME.

25:52.233 --> 25:54.699
A LOT OF COUNSELING, A LOT OF
WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,

25:54.799 --> 25:57.566
A LOT OF PATIENCE
BY THE PARENTS.

25:57.666 --> 25:59.400
AND THAT'S VERY SIMILAR
TO WHAT HAPPENS TO US

25:59.500 --> 26:00.832
IN OUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD.

26:00.932 --> 26:04.466
SO MUCH OF WHAT
WE STRUGGLE WITH,

26:04.566 --> 26:05.866
IN FOLLOWING JESUS,

26:05.966 --> 26:08.832
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
THE FAITHFULNESS OF THE FATHER.

26:08.932 --> 26:12.233
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH
US BECOMING CONVINCED

26:12.333 --> 26:14.800
THAT WE DON'T HAVE
TO EARN HIS LOVE;

26:14.900 --> 26:19.132
THAT HE'S NEVER GOING TO
LEAVE US OR FORSAKE US;

26:19.232 --> 26:21.700
THAT WE'RE NOT
WHO WE USED TO BE,

26:21.800 --> 26:24.499
THAT OUR SINS REALLY
WERE FORGIVEN.

26:24.599 --> 26:27.599
THAT WE'RE NOTICED,
THAT WE'RE SIGNIFICANT.

26:27.699 --> 26:31.933
AND THAT IS THE WORK OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT IN US,

26:32.033 --> 26:33.399
SANCTIFYING US.

26:33.499 --> 26:36.533
IT BEGINS WITH GIVING US
THE ABILITY TO SAY ABBA,

26:36.633 --> 26:40.399
WHICH IS A TERM OF
INTIMACY AND ENDEARMENT.

26:40.499 --> 26:42.066
TO BE ABLE TO SAY
NOT JUST THE WORDS,

26:42.166 --> 26:44.233
BUT TO BELIEVE IT.

26:44.333 --> 26:46.033
BUT THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT
THROUGHOUT ALL

26:46.133 --> 26:48.699
THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES IN
FOLLOWING JESUS,

26:48.799 --> 26:52.566
KEEPS BRINGING US
BACK TO THIS REALITY

26:52.666 --> 26:54.666
THAT WE'RE LOVED,
WE'RE ACCEPTED,

26:54.766 --> 26:57.033
WE'RE NOT FOREIGNERS
ANY LONGER,

26:57.133 --> 26:58.400
WE'RE NOT ENEMIES OF GOD,

26:58.500 --> 27:00.732
WE'RE NOT STRANGERS.

27:00.832 --> 27:01.999
BUT THAT WE'RE KNOWN,
THAT WE'RE SEEN,

27:02.099 --> 27:03.799
THAT WE'RE LOVED.

27:03.899 --> 27:06.432
EPHESIANS 1 SAYS WE'RE
ACCEPTED IN THE BELOVED.

27:06.532 --> 27:09.832
THAT HE HAS LAVISHED HIS LOVE
ON US IN CHRIST JESUS.

27:09.932 --> 27:12.566
HEBREWS SAYS HE'LL NEVER
LEAVE US NOR FORSAKE US.

27:12.666 --> 27:15.566
JESUS SAID TO HIS
DISCIPLES IN MATTHEW 28,

27:15.666 --> 27:18.433
I'M WITH YOU TO
THE END OF THE AGE.

27:18.533 --> 27:19.633
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE,
I THINK ONE OF

27:19.733 --> 27:22.099
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT
THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES,

27:22.199 --> 27:25.799
IS HE BEGINS TO FORM OUR
NEW IDENTITY IN CHRIST JESUS

27:25.899 --> 27:30.100
AND CONVINCE US THAT GOD'S
TRUE AND THE LIES ARE FALSE.

27:30.200 --> 27:30.933
REBECCA: YEAH.

27:31.033 --> 27:33.466
BECAUSE I THINK
LIFE AND HURT

27:33.566 --> 27:35.733
AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN
WE EXPERIENCE HURT,

27:35.833 --> 27:37.232
THE ENEMY COMES IN
AND WHISPERS A LIE

27:37.332 --> 27:39.666
THAT WE ATTACH
TO THE HURT.

27:39.766 --> 27:41.399
AND THEN WE LABEL
OURSELVES WITH THAT.

27:41.499 --> 27:42.299
OH, I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH,

27:42.399 --> 27:44.132
OR I'M THIS, I'M THAT.

27:44.232 --> 27:46.233
AND IT TAKES TIME.

27:46.333 --> 27:48.366
AND I'M SO THANKFUL,

27:48.466 --> 27:50.166
OUT OF ALL THE THINGS I
FEEL LIKE GOD HAS DONE

27:50.266 --> 27:51.599
THROUGH RELATIONSHIP,

27:51.699 --> 27:53.632
THE THING THAT
I HEAR THE MOST

27:53.732 --> 27:55.766
IS THAT HE'S PROUD OF
ME AND THAT HE LOVES ME.

27:55.866 --> 27:58.532
AND I'VE BEEN WALKING WITH
THE LORD FOR ALMOST -

27:58.632 --> 28:00.700
I COMMITTED MY LIFE,
GREW UP IN CHURCH,

28:00.800 --> 28:02.799
BUT I COMMITTED MY
LIFE TO CHRIST AT 19.

28:02.899 --> 28:04.232
I'M 31 NOW.

28:04.332 --> 28:06.000
AND HE STILL,
TO THIS DAY,

28:06.100 --> 28:07.433
TELLS ME THAT
KIND OF STUFF

28:07.533 --> 28:08.633
AND I NEED IT.

28:08.733 --> 28:10.566
I NEED IT MORE
THAN ANYTHING.

28:10.666 --> 28:13.766
AND I'M JUST SO
THANKFUL FOR THAT.

28:13.866 --> 28:16.066
AND I THINK THERE'S SO
MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE HUNGRY

28:16.166 --> 28:17.799
AND THEY'RE
SEARCHING FOR THAT.

28:17.899 --> 28:18.699
BUT THEY'RE
SEARCHING FOR IT

28:18.799 --> 28:19.933
IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES.

28:20.033 --> 28:21.699
BECAUSE THEY DON'T
UNDERSTAND THAT THE CRY

28:21.799 --> 28:23.733
OF THEIR HEART IS THAT.

28:23.833 --> 28:26.066
I REMEMBER SOMETHING
SOMEONE TAUGHT ME WAS,

28:26.166 --> 28:27.933
THE SOUL KNOWS IT
NEEDS SOMETHING,

28:28.033 --> 28:30.033
BUT THE SOUL DOESN'T
KNOW WHAT IT NEEDS.

28:30.133 --> 28:33.299
THE SOUL KNOWS IT'S
CRYING OUT FOR SOMETHING,

28:33.399 --> 28:35.099
BUT IT WILL LEAD
YOU THE WRONG WAY.

28:35.199 --> 28:36.299
THAT'S WHY THE
BIBLE SAYS,

28:36.399 --> 28:37.732
WE HAVE TO BE LED BY
THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

28:37.832 --> 28:38.999
LEE: RIGHT.

28:39.099 --> 28:41.600
REBECCA: THE BIBLE SAYS THE
HEART IS DECEPTIVELY WICKED,

28:41.700 --> 28:43.833
YOU KNOW, WHO
CAN TRUST IT.

28:43.933 --> 28:46.066
AND IT JUST GOES BACK TO

28:46.166 --> 28:47.866
THAT WE CAN'T LEAN
UNTO OURSELVES,

28:47.966 --> 28:50.332
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW
THE SPIRIT.

28:50.432 --> 28:51.433
LEE: RIGHT.

28:51.533 --> 28:53.333
REBECCA: AND HE,
GOD KNOWS WHAT WE NEED

28:53.433 --> 28:55.532
AND HE KNOWS WHAT WE
NEED WHEN WE NEED IT.

28:55.632 --> 28:57.666
AND IT JUST GOES BACK
TO SURRENDERING TO HIM

28:57.766 --> 28:59.366
AND THEN TRUSTING HIM.

28:59.466 --> 29:00.466
LEE: AND SO MUCH OF
WHAT'S GOING ON

29:00.566 --> 29:02.233
CULTURALLY RIGHT NOW

29:02.333 --> 29:04.999
ON THE ISSUE OF
IDENTITY AND CONFUSION,

29:05.099 --> 29:08.933
HAS TO DO WITH COMING
UNDER THE INFLUENCE

29:09.033 --> 29:11.000
OF THE SPIRIT OF THIS AGE.

29:11.100 --> 29:12.499
BECAUSE IT'S A
SPIRIT OF ERROR.

29:12.599 --> 29:14.666
1 JOHN CALLS IT A
SPIRIT OF ERROR

29:14.766 --> 29:16.032
VERSUS A SPIRIT OF TRUTH.

29:16.132 --> 29:18.700
A SPIRIT OF TRUTH, WHICH
JESUS CALLS THE HOLY SPIRIT,

29:18.800 --> 29:21.532
WILL ALWAYS LEAD
YOU IN THE TRUTH

29:21.632 --> 29:24.633
OR INTO YOUR IDENTITY AS
A SON OR DAUGHTER OF GOD.

29:24.733 --> 29:27.666
BUT WHAT WE'RE WITNESSING
IN OUR GENERATION RIGHT NOW

29:27.766 --> 29:30.299
ON A SCALE THAT WE'VE
NEVER SEEN BEFORE,

29:30.399 --> 29:35.466
IS IN THE VOID OF
THE SPIRIT LEADING,

29:35.566 --> 29:38.866
AND GIVING US OUR
IDENTITY IN CHRIST,

29:38.966 --> 29:41.632
THE SPIRIT OF THIS AGE,
WHICH IS A DECEPTIVE SPIRIT,

29:41.732 --> 29:45.933
HAS COME IN AND BROUGHT
CONFUSION AND DESTRUCTION.

29:46.033 --> 29:47.533
TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION THAT YOU JUST -

29:47.633 --> 29:48.800
WHO AM I?

29:48.900 --> 29:50.499
WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE
OF MY LIFE?

29:50.599 --> 29:51.299
AM I LOVED?

29:51.399 --> 29:53.066
WHERE DO I BELONG?

29:53.166 --> 29:57.499
MUCH OF WHAT WE SEE EVEN
IN THE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY

29:57.599 --> 29:59.433
THAT'S BEEN ON THE RISE,

29:59.533 --> 30:02.266
WITH SO MUCH OF IT
BEING DESTRUCTIVE,

30:02.366 --> 30:03.999
WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO
EACH INDIVIDUAL LIFE,

30:04.099 --> 30:05.466
WHAT THEY'RE
REALLY LOOKING FOR

30:05.566 --> 30:06.566
IS WHERE DO I BELONG?

30:06.666 --> 30:07.533
REBECCA: UH-HUH.

30:07.633 --> 30:09.532
LEE: WHAT'S MY
IDENTITY, WHO AM I?

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AND THE CHURCH HASN'T
ALWAYS DONE A GOOD JOB

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OF COMMUNICATING WHO WE
ARE CALLED TO BE

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IN CHRIST JESUS.

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NEW CREATIONS.

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OLD THINGS PASSED AWAY.

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AND WHEN THE CHURCH
DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

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THAT CULTURE IS ASKING,

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SOMEBODY ELSE WILL.

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AND IT WON'T LEAD TO LIFE

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AND IT WON'T LEAD TO TRUTH.

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REBECCA: I THINK ONE
OF THE BIGGEST THINGS,

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MISTAKES THAT WE MAKE IS

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NOT TALKING
ABOUT SOMETHING.

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BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID,

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IF YOU DON'T TALK
ABOUT SOMETHING,

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THAT'S WHERE THE
ENEMY HAS FREE REIN

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TO BASICALLY SPREAD
WHATEVER LIES.

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LEE: YEAH.

30:44.633 --> 30:45.200
REBECCA: BUT AT THE
SAME TIME THE THING

30:45.300 --> 30:46.266
THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING

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AND I DO THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT,

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IS WE HAVE TO SEPARATE
THE AGENDA THAT'S BEING PUSHED

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AND THE PEOPLE WHO
ARE STRUGGLING.

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BECAUSE I THINK
SOMETIMES CHRISTIANS SEE

30:55.966 --> 30:59.033
THIS RAMPANT AGENDA
BEING PUSHED,

30:59.133 --> 31:01.833
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE REALLY HURTING

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AND ARE STRUGGLING
AND THEY NEED GOD.

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THEY NEED THAT IDENTITY.

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AND YOU KNOW WHAT
DOES THE DEVIL DO?

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HE'S CHAOS.

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HE'S CONFUSION.

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THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT
ALL THESE THINGS.

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LEE: THAT'S RIGHT.

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REBECCA: AND SO WE HAVE TO
SEE A HURTING COMMUNITY

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AND COME ALONGSIDE THEM

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AND LOVE THEM AND SPEAK
THE TRUTH AND BE THERE.

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LEE: THAT'S RIGHT.

31:20.233 --> 31:21.266
REBECCA: AND I
JUST THINK, YOU KNOW,

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I FEEL LIKE THE
PENDULUM HAS SWUNG

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IN THE CHURCH TO TWO
DIFFERENT EXTREMES.

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IT WAS LIKE NO
ACCEPTANCE,

31:27.533 --> 31:30.166
YOU KNOW, GOING TO HELL,
ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF,

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AND THEN IT'S LIKE
AFFIRMATION AND ACCEPTANCE.

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LEE: RIGHT.

31:33.599 --> 31:34.999
REBECCA: AND IT'S SOMEWHERE
MORE IN THE MIDDLE.

31:35.099 --> 31:35.966
LEE: YEAH.

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WELL, IT'S
TRUTH AND GRACE.

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WE SAW JESUS COME,
JOHN CHAPTER 1.

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HE CAME FULL OF
GRACE AND TRUTH.

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AND WE NEED THAT.

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I MEAN IT'S EASY TO,

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IT'S EASY TO OBJECTIFY
A GROUP OF PEOPLE,

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BUT WHEN YOU SIT DOWN
WITH SOMEONE INDIVIDUALLY,

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AND THIS IS WHAT JESUS
WAS A MASTER AT,

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EVEN THE WOMAN
AT THE WELL,

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THE SAMARITAN
WOMAN, RIGHT,

31:56.066 --> 31:58.433
I MEAN, HERE
SHE IS CAUGHT.

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SHE'S A WOMAN WHO'S
BEEN DIVORCED.

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SHE'S LIVING
WITH SOMEBODY.

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SHE'S BY HERSELF BECAUSE
NOBODY ELSE TRUSTS HER,

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WANTS TO BE AROUND HER.

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SHE'S A SAMARITAN.

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AND JESUS GOES
RIGHT AT HER.

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IN FACT, IF YOU READ THE
OPENING OF THAT CHAPTER

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IN JOHN 4,

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HE TOLD HIS DISCIPLES, I
MUST GO THROUGH SAMARIA.

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BECAUSE HE HAD AN
APPOINTMENT WITH

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THIS WOMAN AT THE WELL.

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THINK ABOUT THAT.

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GOD THE FATHER SAW
HER IN HER BROKENNESS

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AND SENT JESUS TO HAVE
A CONVERSATION WITH HER.

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AND WHEN JESUS DID HAVE
A CONVERSATION WITH HER,

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HE DEMONSTRATED LOVE
AND TRUTH TO HER,

32:34.332 --> 32:35.600
BUT HE DIDN'T
PULL ANY PUNCHES.

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REBECCA: YEAH.

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LEE: HE DIDN'T
PULL ANY PUNCHES.

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AND THAT'S THE MODEL
FOR THE CHURCH.

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I MEAN, I REALLY BELIEVE

32:43.299 --> 32:45.032
THAT THE CHURCH
IN AMERICA

32:45.132 --> 32:46.400
HAS BELIEVED A LIE

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THAT GOD CAN SAVE
AND CHANGE ANYBODY

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EXCEPT SOMEBODY
WHO'S GAY OR TRANS.

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THAT'S OFF-LIMITS.

32:54.632 --> 32:55.733
GOD CAN'T DO THAT.

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THEY'RE BORN THIS WAY.

32:57.566 --> 32:58.333
WELL, CAN WE BE HONEST?

32:58.433 --> 32:59.632
WE'RE ALL BORN INTO SIN.

32:59.732 --> 33:00.533
REBECCA: EXACTLY.

33:00.633 --> 33:01.866
LEE: EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF US.

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WE ALL ARE ENEMIES OF GOD.

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WE ALL ARE A MESS.

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NONE OF US CAN
FIX OURSELVES.

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WE ALL NEED THE CROSS.

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AND THE GOOD NEWS IS
THAT GOD OFFERS GRACE

33:11.432 --> 33:14.099
TO ANYONE WHO WILL
CALL UPON HIS NAME.

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IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHO YOU ARE,

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WHAT YOU'VE DONE,

33:16.499 --> 33:18.399
WHERE YOU'VE BEEN.

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WE EITHER BELIEVE IN
THE TRANSFORMATIVE

33:20.199 --> 33:21.899
POWER OF THE
GOSPEL, OR WE DON'T.

33:21.999 --> 33:23.199
REBECCA: EXACTLY.

33:23.299 --> 33:25.399
IT EITHER WORKS OR IT
DOESN'T FOR EVERYONE.

33:25.499 --> 33:26.466
LEE: THAT'S RIGHT.

33:26.566 --> 33:27.933
REBECCA: FOR
ALL HAVE SINNED.

33:28.033 --> 33:29.566
AND I THINK ABOUT,
SOME OF MY FAVORITE -

33:29.666 --> 33:31.066
I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THE
BELIEVERS THAT HAVE SHARED

33:31.166 --> 33:32.633
THEIR TESTIMONIES.

33:32.733 --> 33:34.033
I THINK ABOUT LIKE
JACKIE HILL PERRY,

33:34.133 --> 33:35.566
I THINK ABOUT
LIKE BECCA COOK.

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WHAT'S INTERESTING WITH
BOTH OF THEIR STORIES IS

33:39.932 --> 33:42.866
THAT THE FOCUS WAS
A LOVE FOR GOD

33:42.966 --> 33:44.033
AND A SUBMISSION TO HIM.

33:44.133 --> 33:45.199
LEE: YEAH.

33:45.299 --> 33:47.100
REBECCA: AND
WITH ALL OF US,

33:47.200 --> 33:48.133
I THINK DEALING
WITH ANY SIN,

33:48.233 --> 33:50.133
THAT'S WHERE IT
BASICALLY ENDS UP,

33:50.233 --> 33:52.133
IS THAT YOU PUT GOD FIRST

33:52.233 --> 33:53.433
AND YOU SUBMIT YOUR
LIFE UNDER HIM

33:53.533 --> 33:54.566
AND UNDER HIS LORDSHIP.

33:54.632 --> 33:56.500
AND WHATEVER HE
ADDRESSES, HE ADDRESSES.

33:56.600 --> 33:57.966
AND WE HAVE TO,

33:58.066 --> 33:59.200
EITHER WE'RE GONNA
SUBMIT TO THAT,

33:59.300 --> 34:02.266
WE'RE GONNA OBEY
OR WE'RE NOT.

34:02.366 --> 34:04.533
AND THAT'S WHERE THE
TRANSFORMATION BEGINS.

34:04.633 --> 34:06.032
YOU KNOW, THE DEVIL
WANTS US TO FOCUS ON

34:06.132 --> 34:07.866
OUR BROKENNESS
OR OUR SIN,

34:07.966 --> 34:09.899
BUT GOD WANTS US TO
FOCUS ON WHO HE IS,

34:09.999 --> 34:11.833
WHAT HE'S DONE AND
WHO WE ARE IN HIM.

34:11.933 --> 34:12.999
LEE: YEAH.

34:13.099 --> 34:14.266
REBECCA: AND AS WE BEGIN TO
FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS,

34:14.366 --> 34:16.666
A TRANSFORMATION
BEGINS TO HAPPEN.

34:16.766 --> 34:19.899
EVEN WITH MYSELF, I STRUGGLED
WITH UNDERSTANDING,

34:19.999 --> 34:21.633
WHICH IS WEIRD,
BECAUSE I'M LIKE A PK,

34:21.733 --> 34:24.366
BUT I STRUGGLE TO
UNDERSTAND SALVATION.

34:24.466 --> 34:25.600
WHAT WAS IT LIKE
TO BE A CHRISTIAN.

34:25.700 --> 34:28.100
I DON'T KNOW WHY I
PICKED UP THIS NOTION

34:28.200 --> 34:30.732
THAT IT WAS ABOUT
FOLLOWING RULES.

34:30.832 --> 34:32.466
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE
I GREW UP IN MINISTRY,

34:32.566 --> 34:34.099
AND I SAW -

34:34.199 --> 34:35.466
I THINK I DEFINITELY
WAS AFFECTED BY

34:35.566 --> 34:36.533
SEEING MINISTERS FAIL.

34:36.633 --> 34:37.632
LEE: YEP.

34:37.732 --> 34:39.133
REBECCA: AND THEN THEM
BASICALLY BE REJECTED

34:39.233 --> 34:40.833
AND THEY NEVER GET PUT
BACK INTO MINISTRY.

34:40.933 --> 34:41.833
LEE: YEP.

34:41.933 --> 34:43.533
REBECCA: IT WAS
PRETTY HARSH GROWING UP

34:43.633 --> 34:44.700
HOW THEY HANDLED PEOPLE.

34:44.800 --> 34:46.000
AND I THINK I WAS LIKE, I
KNOW I'M GONNA MESS UP

34:46.100 --> 34:48.432
AT SOME POINT.

34:48.532 --> 34:50.733
AND SO I WAS JUST
LIKE, I CAN'T DO THIS.

34:50.833 --> 34:52.999
I CAN'T FOLLOW ALL
THESE RULES PERFECTLY.

34:53.099 --> 34:54.566
AND I REMEMBER GOD
SPEAKING TO ME WHEN I WAS

34:54.666 --> 34:57.200
17 AND HE SAID,

34:57.300 --> 34:59.100
BECAUSE I SAID GOD, I WANT
TO FOLLOW YOU AND ALL THIS

34:59.200 --> 34:59.833
KIND OF STUFF

34:59.933 --> 35:00.933
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW.

35:01.033 --> 35:03.366
AND HE SAID ABIDE IN ME
AND I'LL ABIDE IN YOU.

35:03.466 --> 35:07.166
AND HE WAS SPEAKING,
I THINK THAT'S JOHN -

35:07.266 --> 35:08.066
LEE: JOHN 15.

35:08.166 --> 35:09.100
REBECCA: JOHN 15.

35:09.200 --> 35:11.133
HE WAS SPEAKING
JOHN 15 TO ME

35:11.233 --> 35:12.900
WHICH IS BASICALLY
THE LAYOUT

35:13.000 --> 35:14.933
OF WHAT GOD CALLS US
TO BE IN SALVATION,

35:15.033 --> 35:16.566
WHICH IS WE ABIDE IN HIM.

35:16.666 --> 35:18.100
WE HAVE RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIM.

35:18.200 --> 35:20.132
AND GOD THE FATHER,

35:20.232 --> 35:21.500
HE'S THE GARDENER,
THE VINEDRESSER,

35:21.600 --> 35:22.532
HE'S GONNA PRUNE US.

35:22.632 --> 35:24.732
IT'S NOT ALWAYS
GONNA BE EASY,

35:24.832 --> 35:26.266
BUT THE HOLY
SPIRIT IN US,

35:26.366 --> 35:28.000
THE RELATIONSHIP THAT
WE HAVE WITH CHRIST

35:28.100 --> 35:29.133
IS WE ABIDE IN HIM.

35:29.233 --> 35:31.666
HE WILL PRODUCE
SPIRITUAL FRUIT.

35:31.766 --> 35:34.233
HE WILL DO IT IN US.

35:34.333 --> 35:36.166
WE DON'T PRODUCE LOVE, JOY,
PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS,

35:36.266 --> 35:38.833
GENTLENESS OUT OF OUR OWN.

35:38.933 --> 35:40.233
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET
MARRIED AND HAVE KIDS,

35:40.333 --> 35:42.232
AND YOU REALIZE YOU DON'T
HAVE THAT MUCH OF IT.

35:42.332 --> 35:43.566
LEE: THAT'S RIGHT.

35:43.666 --> 35:45.832
REBECCA: I FEEL LIKE GETTING
MARRIED AND HAVING KIDS,

35:45.932 --> 35:47.900
IS A GOOD WAY OF EXPOSING
YOUR SHORTCOMINGS.

35:48.000 --> 35:49.166
LEE: IT'S A GREAT
DISCIPLESHIP TOOL.

35:49.266 --> 35:50.000
REBECCA: YEAH.

35:50.100 --> 35:52.199
AND HOW MUCH YOU
NEED THE LORD.

35:52.299 --> 35:54.366
BUT IT COMES FROM
ABIDING IN HIM,

35:54.466 --> 35:55.599
SPENDING TIME WITH HIM,

35:55.699 --> 35:57.466
STUDYING HIS WORD.

35:57.566 --> 36:01.332
AND A LOT OF TIMES
PEOPLE FOCUS

36:01.432 --> 36:03.866
ON THE GIFTS
OF THE SPIRIT

36:03.966 --> 36:05.533
FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,
THAT ARE OPEN

36:05.633 --> 36:07.299
TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

36:07.399 --> 36:09.266
BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY
DON'T TALK ABOUT THE FRUIT.

36:09.366 --> 36:10.366
LEE: THAT'S RIGHT.

36:10.466 --> 36:11.533
THAT'S SO TRUE.

36:11.633 --> 36:13.932
AND GALATIANS
5 LISTS OFF -

36:14.032 --> 36:16.866
IT DOES A COMPARISON
BETWEEN THE WORKS OF THE FLESH

36:16.966 --> 36:18.333
AND THE FRUIT
OF THE SPIRIT.

36:18.433 --> 36:19.933
AND NOTICE THOSE TWO,

36:20.033 --> 36:22.532
HOW IT'S NOT THE
FRUIT OF THE FLESH,

36:22.632 --> 36:24.599
BUT IT'S THE WORKS
OF THE FLESH.

36:24.699 --> 36:26.566
BECAUSE THE WORKS OF
THE FLESH ARE LIKE

36:26.666 --> 36:28.600
A DEFAULT OPERATING SYSTEM.

36:28.700 --> 36:31.766
BUT THE FRUIT
OF THE SPIRIT

36:31.866 --> 36:35.933
ARE THE EVIDENCES OF
LIFE THAT ARE WITHIN US.

36:36.033 --> 36:38.566
THE WORKS ARE THE
EVIDENCE OF DEATH.

36:38.666 --> 36:40.166
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT
TO UNDERSTAND THAT

36:40.266 --> 36:41.866
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
JUST PRODUCE

36:41.966 --> 36:43.133
THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT.

36:43.233 --> 36:46.466
IT'S NOT LIKE I'M
TRYING HARDER.

36:46.566 --> 36:48.099
AND SOMEHOW, LOVE,
JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE,

36:48.199 --> 36:50.299
KINDNESS, GENTLENESS,
SELF-CONTROL,

36:50.399 --> 36:52.766
IS ALL GONNA FLOW
OUT OF MY LIFE.

36:52.866 --> 36:56.266
THE MORE WE YIELD
AND WE LEAN IN

36:56.366 --> 36:57.533
TO THE PERSON OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT

36:57.633 --> 37:01.700
AND RECOGNIZE IN MYSELF
I CAN'T DO ANYTHING,

37:01.800 --> 37:04.699
JOHN 5:19, JESUS, WHO'S
OUR PROTOTYPE SAID THIS.

37:04.799 --> 37:08.733
THE SON OF MAN CAN DO
NOTHING OF HIMSELF.

37:08.833 --> 37:11.133
AND I CAN'T DO ANYTHING
IN MY OWN STRENGTH.

37:11.233 --> 37:13.999
ALL THAT'S WITHIN
ME IS DEATH.

37:14.099 --> 37:18.266
I CAN, YOU KNOW, OUTBURSTS
OF WRATH AND IMPURITY

37:18.366 --> 37:19.166
AND ALL THAT STUFF,

37:19.266 --> 37:22.299
THAT'S WHAT COMES
NATURAL TO US.

37:22.399 --> 37:24.899
BUT WHAT COMES
SUPERNATURAL TO US

37:24.999 --> 37:27.933
IS THE FRUIT OF THE ONE
WHO DWELLS WITHIN US.

37:28.033 --> 37:29.766
AND THAT HAPPENS
AS WE YIELD TO HIM.

37:29.866 --> 37:31.266
AND THAT'S A PROCESS.

37:31.366 --> 37:32.300
WE GROW IN THIS.

37:32.400 --> 37:35.432
WHEN WE SEE LOVE
AND SELFLESSNESS

37:35.532 --> 37:37.200
AND GENTLENESS
AND KINDNESS

37:37.300 --> 37:38.700
AND JOY IN OUR LIFE,

37:38.800 --> 37:40.499
THAT'S NOT NATURAL.

37:40.599 --> 37:44.466
THAT'S THE PRODUCT OF
GOD, THE HOLY SPIRIT,

37:44.566 --> 37:46.433
LIVING WITHIN US.

37:46.533 --> 37:48.332
AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

37:48.432 --> 37:51.833
BUT WE OVERLOOK
THAT SO OFTEN.

37:51.933 --> 37:52.899
AND IN THE
CHARISMATIC WORLD,

37:52.999 --> 37:55.099
WE'VE EMPHASIZED ALL
THE MANIFESTATIONS

37:55.199 --> 37:56.966
AND SIGNS AND WONDERS.

37:57.066 --> 37:59.432
BUT WE NEED TO
EMPHASIZE ALSO,

37:59.532 --> 38:00.733
THE FRUIT OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

38:00.833 --> 38:02.933
BECAUSE THE FRUIT
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

38:03.033 --> 38:05.033
ARE NOT LIKE THE JV GIFTS.

38:05.133 --> 38:06.599
IT'S LIKE WE NEED THOSE

38:06.699 --> 38:07.833
BECAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE
FOR YOU TO BE

38:07.933 --> 38:09.866
VERY GIFTED CHARISMATICALLY,

38:09.966 --> 38:12.133
AND HAVE ZERO CHARACTER.

38:12.233 --> 38:14.266
AND IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE
FOR YOU TO BE

38:14.366 --> 38:18.000
ONE OF THE MOST
WELL-ROUNDED, DISCIPLED,

38:18.100 --> 38:19.766
LOVE JESUS PERSONS,

38:19.866 --> 38:21.166
BUT YOU'VE SLAMMED
THE DOOR

38:21.266 --> 38:23.700
ON ANY SUPERNATURAL
MANIFESTATIONS

38:23.800 --> 38:25.732
OR WORK OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT THROUGH YOU.

38:25.832 --> 38:26.700
AND WE NEED BOTH.

38:26.800 --> 38:27.699
IT'S NOT EITHER/OR.

38:27.799 --> 38:29.766
REBECCA: THAT'S SO TRUE.

38:29.866 --> 38:31.800
AND I WAS THINKING, THE
IMPORTANCE OF FRUIT

38:31.900 --> 38:33.433
IS IT SAYS THEY WILL
KNOW US BY OUR LOVE.

38:33.533 --> 38:35.499
THAT'S NOT YOU CONSCIOUSLY
JUST WAKING UP AND SAYING,

38:35.599 --> 38:37.866
I'M GONNA LOVE PEOPLE
BECAUSE OUR LOVE IS LIMITED.

38:37.966 --> 38:40.100
IT'S THE LOVE, ONE OF THE
FRUITS THE HOLY SPIRIT

38:40.200 --> 38:41.999
PRODUCES IN US.

38:42.099 --> 38:45.666
AND IT SAYS THAT PEOPLE
TASTE AND SEE

38:45.766 --> 38:47.266
THAT THE LORD IS GOOD.

38:47.366 --> 38:49.700
AND IT'S LIKE AS
PEOPLE, UNBELIEVERS,

38:49.800 --> 38:50.732
THOSE AROUND US

38:50.832 --> 38:52.033
TASTE THAT FRUIT,

38:52.133 --> 38:52.999
IT MAKES THEM HUNGRY.

38:53.099 --> 38:54.166
AND YOU HEAR SO
MANY TESTIMONIES,

38:54.266 --> 38:55.232
WHERE THEY GET
AROUND BELIEVERS

38:55.332 --> 38:56.799
AND THEY WANT WHAT
THAT PERSON HAS.

38:56.899 --> 38:57.733
LEE: YEAH,
THAT'S RIGHT.

38:57.833 --> 38:58.799
REBECCA: BECAUSE
SOMETHING'S DIFFERENT.

38:58.899 --> 39:00.766
BUT GOING TO GIFTS,
BECAUSE YOU HIT IT

39:00.866 --> 39:01.866
RIGHT ON THE HEAD,

39:01.966 --> 39:04.566
IS THAT GIFTS
COME RIGHT AWAY.

39:04.666 --> 39:06.166
FRUIT TAKES CULTIVATION,

39:06.266 --> 39:07.333
JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW,

39:07.433 --> 39:08.466
YOU CAN'T PLANT A SEED
AND THE NEXT MORNING

39:08.566 --> 39:09.766
IT'S A FULLY
DEVELOPED PLANT.

39:09.866 --> 39:10.732
LEE: RIGHT.

39:10.832 --> 39:11.866
REBECCA: BUT GIFTS,
WHEN YOU STUDY HOW

39:11.966 --> 39:12.932
THE CHURCH IS IN ACTS,

39:13.032 --> 39:14.899
WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT
FOR BELIEVERS TO STUDY,

39:14.999 --> 39:16.699
IS THAT THEY
WOULD GET SAVED,

39:16.799 --> 39:17.833
THEY WOULD GET BAPTIZED,

39:17.933 --> 39:19.066
AND THEY WOULD GET
FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT,

39:19.166 --> 39:20.366
ALL PRETTY MUCH IN
THE SAME SITUATION

39:20.466 --> 39:21.166
FOR THE MOST PART.

39:21.266 --> 39:22.166
LEE: YEP.

39:22.266 --> 39:23.899
REBECCA: WHICH WE
DON'T USUALLY DO TODAY.

39:23.999 --> 39:25.799
WHICH I THINK MAYBE WE
COULD RETURN BACK TO.

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BUT WHAT I'M
TRYING TO SAY IS,

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IS THAT A LOT OF TIMES

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FROM THE MOMENT THEY'RE
FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT,

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THEY'RE EITHER
PROPHESYING,

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PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT,

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THE GIFTS ARE
INSTANTANEOUS.

39:33.499 --> 39:35.933
BUT WHEN WE CLOSE
OURSELVES OFF FROM THE GIFTS,

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GIFTS ARE FOR REACHING
OTHER PEOPLE

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WHO ARE IN DARKNESS,

39:39.833 --> 39:42.432
OR IT'S FOR HELPING PEOPLE
WITHIN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

39:42.532 --> 39:44.499
AND I REMEMBER ONE OF
MY PROFESSORS SAYING,

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WE'RE NOT GONNA
HAVE THE GIFTS

39:45.566 --> 39:46.899
OF THE SPIRIT IN HEAVEN.

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LEE: YEAH.

39:48.066 --> 39:48.932
REBECCA: LIKE EVERYTHING
WILL BE PERFECT THEN.

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THEY'RE FOR HERE
AND FOR NOW.

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SO HOW CAN WE
THINK IT'S CEASED.

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WE HAVE A WORLD NOW MORE
THAN EVER IN DARKNESS

39:55.333 --> 39:57.633
AND WE, WHEN WE OPERATE IN
THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT,

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IT'S A WAY TO
REACH PEOPLE.

39:59.266 --> 40:01.133
AND YOU SEE JESUS
OPERATE IN IT,

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WORD OF KNOWLEDGE, ALL
THESE DIFFERENT THINGS,

40:03.966 --> 40:05.566
AND IT'S AN EFFECTIVE
WAY TO REACH PEOPLE.

40:05.666 --> 40:07.166
AND I THINK IN
MY OWN LIFE

40:07.266 --> 40:08.332
WHEN PEOPLE OPERATE
IN THE GIFTS,

40:08.432 --> 40:11.033
WHETHER IT'S WORD OF
KNOWLEDGE, PROPHECY, HEALING,

40:11.133 --> 40:12.333
I'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT
OF DIFFERENT GIFTS

40:12.433 --> 40:13.266
OF THE SPIRIT.

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I'M SO THANKFUL

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BECAUSE IT MAKES
A REAL IMPACT.

40:17.666 --> 40:19.899
SO ALL THAT BEING SAID,

40:19.999 --> 40:22.733
TELL US ABOUT THE
GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT.

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LEE: WELL, THE
GIFTS ARE, YOU KNOW,

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WE USE THE TERM
GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT,

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BUT REALLY, WHEN YOU READ
THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE

40:30.566 --> 40:33.466
OF 1 CORINTHIANS
12, 13 AND 14,

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IT ACTUALLY READS THEY'RE
THE MANIFESTATIONS

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OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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SO IT'S NOT JUST GIFTS
THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVES,

40:41.533 --> 40:43.866
BUT THEY'RE WAYS THAT
HE MANIFESTS HIMSELF

40:43.966 --> 40:45.266
IN BELIEVERS' LIVES.

40:45.366 --> 40:47.232
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING
ABOUT THE BOOK OF ACTS

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IS ABOUT 90 PERCENT
OF THE TIME

40:49.233 --> 40:52.299
AS YOU GO THROUGH
28 CHAPTERS,

40:52.399 --> 40:53.533
ABOUT 90 PERCENT
OF THE TIME

40:53.633 --> 40:55.833
WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING
SUPERNATURAL

40:55.933 --> 40:58.399
OR MIRACULOUS OR A GIFT
OF THE SPIRIT OCCUR,

40:58.499 --> 41:01.200
IT'S NOT HAPPENING
IN A CHURCH SERVICE.

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IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING
IN THE PROCESS

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OF FULFILLING THE
GREAT COMMISSION.

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IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE
WALLS OF THE CHURCH.

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BUT IN THE BODY
OF CHRIST,

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OFTENTIMES WE
BOX UP THE GIFTS

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WITHIN CHURCH SERVICES

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AND THEN WE LIVE THE OTHER
SIX AND A HALF DAYS OF OUR WEEK

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WITH NO SUPERNATURAL
ASPECTS TO IT.

41:22.566 --> 41:23.699
IT'S ONLY IN
CHURCH SERVICE.

41:23.799 --> 41:26.300
BUT THE BOOK OF ACTS
SAYS THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

41:26.400 --> 41:27.732
IN 1 CORINTHIANS
WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT

41:27.832 --> 41:30.099
THE MANIFESTATIONS
OF THE GIFTS,

41:30.199 --> 41:31.699
IT'S IMPORTANT
TO REMEMBER,

41:31.799 --> 41:33.766
THESE ARE GIFTS THAT
THE HOLY SPIRIT

41:33.866 --> 41:35.766
DISTRIBUTES AS HE WANTS

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AND THEY'RE TOTALLY
DRIVEN BY GRACE.

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WE DO NOT EARN THEM.

41:40.700 --> 41:42.633
WE DON'T EARN
ANOTHER GIFT.

41:42.733 --> 41:44.899
IT'S NOT LIKE BADGES.

41:44.999 --> 41:47.799
WE DON'T RECEIVE A GIFT
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE

41:47.899 --> 41:49.833
WE'VE BEEN A GOOD
CHRISTIAN FOR LONG ENOUGH,

41:49.933 --> 41:51.466
DONE ENOUGH GOOD THINGS,

41:51.566 --> 41:53.166
SAID NO TO ENOUGH
BAD THINGS.

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IT'S THE GRACE OF GOD.

41:54.566 --> 41:57.366
JUST LIKE SALVATION
IS BY GOD'S GRACE.

41:57.466 --> 41:59.899
THE GIFTS ARE
GIVEN BY GRACE.

41:59.999 --> 42:00.966
IN FACT, JOHN WIMBER,

42:01.066 --> 42:03.566
WHO IS THE FOUNDER OF
THE VINEYARD MOVEMENT,

42:03.666 --> 42:04.866
WROTE AN INCREDIBLE
BOOK CALLED,

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<i>POWER EVANGELISM.</i>

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IT TALKS ABOUT UTILIZING
THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

42:09.466 --> 42:11.000
TO REACH THE LOST.

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BUT HE WOULD CALL
THE GIFTS, GRACELETS.

42:14.166 --> 42:15.333
AND I LOVE THAT.

42:15.433 --> 42:17.532
THEY'RE THE GRACELETS
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

42:17.632 --> 42:19.266
THAT THEY'RE
TOTALLY GIVEN.

42:19.366 --> 42:21.033
AND THEY'RE GIVEN AND
THEY'RE MADE AVAILABLE

42:21.133 --> 42:24.699
TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US.

42:24.799 --> 42:27.166
1 CORINTHIANS LISTS OFF
NINE MANIFESTATIONS

42:27.266 --> 42:29.033
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

42:29.133 --> 42:30.966
BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF
THEM IS SUPERNATURAL

42:31.066 --> 42:32.632
IN ITS DIMENSION.

42:32.732 --> 42:34.866
IT'S OUTSIDE
OF THE CONTROL.

42:34.966 --> 42:38.733
IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE
MANUFACTURING OF HUMAN BEINGS.

42:38.833 --> 42:42.199
AND IT'S EVIDENCE AND
A MANIFESTATION OF

42:42.299 --> 42:45.066
THE LIVING SPIRIT WITHIN US.

42:45.166 --> 42:47.432
AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL,
THEY'RE POWERFUL.

42:47.532 --> 42:48.800
REBECCA: SO HOW -

42:48.900 --> 42:50.199
LET'S TALK ABOUT
PRAYER LANGUAGE.

42:50.299 --> 42:51.266
LEE: YEAH.

42:51.366 --> 42:52.833
REBECCA: BECAUSE IT
STUMPS A LOT OF PEOPLE,

42:52.933 --> 42:54.300
AND THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN TONGUES

42:54.400 --> 42:55.700
AND INTERPRETATION
OF TONGUES

42:55.800 --> 42:56.700
AND PRAYER LANGUAGE.

42:56.800 --> 42:58.699
BECAUSE PEOPLE MIX
UP THOSE TWO AS WELL.

42:58.799 --> 43:00.733
HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO
HAVE A PRAYER LANGUAGE

43:00.833 --> 43:01.899
AS A BELIEVER?

43:01.999 --> 43:02.966
LEE: I THINK
IT'S VITAL.

43:03.066 --> 43:03.799
REBECCA: I DO, TOO.

43:03.899 --> 43:04.800
LEE: I THINK
IT'S VITAL.

43:04.900 --> 43:06.232
I THINK IT'S VITAL
FOR A COUPLE REASONS.

43:06.332 --> 43:08.066
NUMBER ONE, IT
SEEMS TO BE

43:08.166 --> 43:10.966
THE NORMATIVE PATTERN
IN THE BOOK OF ACTS

43:11.066 --> 43:13.800
THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE
FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT,

43:13.900 --> 43:16.233
OR BAPTIZED WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT,

43:16.333 --> 43:19.166
THAT THEY EITHER SPEAK IN
TONGUES MOST OF THE TIME,

43:19.266 --> 43:23.666
IT'S VERY VISIBLE
OR IT'S IMPLIED,

43:23.766 --> 43:25.866
AND SO WE OUGHT TO PAY
ATTENTION TO SOMETHING

43:25.966 --> 43:29.399
THAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE
TIME GOD GIVES A PROMISE.

43:29.499 --> 43:32.433
AND PAUL TALKS ABOUT
IT EXTENSIVELY.

43:32.533 --> 43:35.699
PAUL SAYS I WISH THAT
YOU ALL SPOKE IN TONGUES.

43:35.799 --> 43:38.599
AND THEN HE SAYS, I SPEAK
IN TONGUES MORE THAN YOU ALL,

43:38.699 --> 43:40.466
HE SAYS, BUT I WILL
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT

43:40.566 --> 43:42.200
AND PRAY WITH THE
UNDERSTANDING.

43:42.300 --> 43:45.400
AND THEN HE SAYS WHEN YOU
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT,

43:45.500 --> 43:48.566
YOU'RE SPEAKING
MYSTERIES UNTO GOD

43:48.666 --> 43:50.300
IN A LANGUAGE
THAT NO MAN KNOWS.

43:50.400 --> 43:51.732
THIS IS NOT A
HUMAN LANGUAGE.

43:51.832 --> 43:53.833
THIS IS A LANGUAGE
OF ANGELS

43:53.933 --> 43:57.433
OR A HEAVENLY
PRAYER LANGUAGE

43:57.533 --> 43:58.532
THAT IS PRAYING.

43:58.632 --> 44:00.800
IT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT
PRAYING THROUGH US

44:00.900 --> 44:03.133
TO THE FATHER
IN A LANGUAGE

44:03.233 --> 44:05.733
THAT WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

44:05.833 --> 44:07.566
AND HE DESCRIBES
IT AS MYSTERIES.

44:07.666 --> 44:08.966
THINK ABOUT THAT.

44:09.066 --> 44:10.799
THINGS THAT ARE ENIGMAS,

44:10.899 --> 44:13.066
THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT
FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.

44:13.166 --> 44:14.599
IT'S BASICALLY OPENING
UP A CHANNEL

44:14.699 --> 44:16.799
OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN
THE HOLY SPIRIT IN US

44:16.899 --> 44:19.566
AND THE FATHER SITTING
ON THE THRONE,

44:19.666 --> 44:23.433
PRAYING FOR US AND
ABOUT US THROUGH US

44:23.533 --> 44:25.899
IN A WAY THAT BYPASSES
OUR INTELLECT.

44:25.999 --> 44:28.066
AND IT SAYS
WHEN WE DO IT,

44:28.166 --> 44:30.433
WE'RE EDIFIED, WE'RE
BUILDING OURSELVES UP

44:30.533 --> 44:31.499
IN OUR MOST HOLY FAITH.

44:31.599 --> 44:33.166
THAT'S WHAT JUDE SAYS.

44:33.266 --> 44:34.699
PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT,
BUILDING YOURSELF UP IN

44:34.799 --> 44:36.332
YOUR MOST HOLY FAITH,

44:36.432 --> 44:40.832
IT'S A GENERATOR IN OUR
SPIRIT THAT PRODUCES FAITH.

44:40.932 --> 44:43.033
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY WE
WOULDN'T WANT SOMETHING -

44:43.133 --> 44:46.866
WE DESPERATELY NEED THAT.

44:46.966 --> 44:48.833
I DON'T THINK -

44:48.933 --> 44:50.932
I DON'T THINK GOD
WAS IN HEAVEN GOING,

44:51.032 --> 44:53.899
I THINK I'M GONNA GIVE A
BUNCH OF GIFTS TO PEOPLE,

44:53.999 --> 44:55.599
THAT ONE'S WEIRD.

44:55.699 --> 44:57.699
JUST KIND OF
LET IT FADE OUT.

44:57.799 --> 44:59.466
I DON'T KNOW
WHERE THAT CAME.

44:59.566 --> 45:01.400
EVERYTHING GOD DOES
IS VERY INTENTIONAL.

45:01.500 --> 45:02.299
REBECCA: MM-HMM.

45:02.399 --> 45:04.133
LEE: AND I THINK A
PRAYER LANGUAGE,

45:04.233 --> 45:05.800
OR PRAYING IN TONGUES,

45:05.900 --> 45:07.766
WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN
DOING IT PUBLICLY

45:07.866 --> 45:09.199
IN A CHURCH SERVICE,

45:09.299 --> 45:11.066
PAUL SAID DON'T -

45:11.166 --> 45:15.533
QUENCH THE SPIRIT AND
DON'T FORBID TONGUES PUBLICLY,

45:15.633 --> 45:17.366
BUT IF YOU DO IT, DO
IT WITH AN INTERPRETER

45:17.466 --> 45:19.933
SO EVERYBODY CAN
REJOICE WITH YOU.

45:20.033 --> 45:22.666
BUT YOU SHOULD PRAY IN
THE SPIRIT BECAUSE

45:22.766 --> 45:24.932
IT IS A VITAL WEAPON.

45:25.032 --> 45:26.732
YOU KNOW, IN
EPHESIANS CHAPTER 6

45:26.832 --> 45:29.066
WHEN PAUL TALKS ABOUT
ALL THE ARMOR OF GOD,

45:29.166 --> 45:32.100
HE SAYS PRAYING
ALWAYS IN THE SPIRIT.

45:32.200 --> 45:33.166
IT'S A WEAPON.

45:33.266 --> 45:37.999
WHY WOULD WE WANT A
WHOLE ARSENAL EXCEPT ONE,

45:38.099 --> 45:40.232
WHICH IS CONSIDERABLY
ONE OF THE MOST

45:40.332 --> 45:42.233
POWERFUL WEAPONS THAT WE HAVE.

45:42.333 --> 45:44.733
AND IT ADDS SUCH
INCREDIBLE VALUE AND STRENGTH

45:44.833 --> 45:45.666
TO OUR SPIRIT.

45:45.766 --> 45:47.466
SO I THINK EVERY
BELIEVER SHOULD WANT IT.

45:47.566 --> 45:48.999
AND EVERY BELIEVER
SHOULD HAVE IT.

45:49.099 --> 45:49.999
REBECCA: I
THINK SO, TOO.

45:50.099 --> 45:52.066
AND I THINK HOW
POWERFUL PRAYER IS,

45:52.166 --> 45:53.632
AND HOW WHEN WE
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT,

45:53.732 --> 45:55.599
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS
PRAYING THROUGH US,

45:55.699 --> 45:56.966
THE PERFECT WILL OF GOD.

45:57.066 --> 45:58.566
YOU KNOW, IN OUR MINDS,
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW

45:58.666 --> 45:59.666
WHAT'S IN OUR FUTURE,

45:59.766 --> 46:00.799
GOD SEES ALL THINGS.

46:00.899 --> 46:01.866
HE'S OUTSIDE OF TIME.

46:01.966 --> 46:03.599
WHO BETTER TO
PRAY THROUGH US

46:03.699 --> 46:05.699
AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
TO PRAY FOR THAN HIM.

46:05.799 --> 46:07.100
WE JUST NEED TO
LET IT HAPPEN.

46:07.200 --> 46:10.033
LEE: AND JUST THINK, I THINK
THE HOLY SPIRIT SOMETIMES

46:10.133 --> 46:11.433
PRAYS THINGS THROUGH US,

46:11.533 --> 46:13.266
THAT IF WE KNEW WHAT
HE WAS PRAYING,

46:13.366 --> 46:14.700
IT WOULD FREAK US OUT.

46:14.800 --> 46:15.799
REBECCA: YEAH.

46:15.899 --> 46:17.066
LEE: BUT BECAUSE
HE KNOWS THE PAST,

46:17.166 --> 46:18.533
PRESENT AND FUTURE,

46:18.633 --> 46:20.833
HE'S ABLE TO PRAY,
BYPASS OUR INTELLECT,

46:20.933 --> 46:23.433
AND SET US UP WITH
AMBUSHES OF GRACE.

46:23.533 --> 46:25.032
REBECCA: YEAH, I AGREE.

46:25.132 --> 46:26.799
SO FOR PEOPLE WHO
ARE WATCHING,

46:26.899 --> 46:29.233
WHO WANT TO BE FILLED
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT,

46:29.333 --> 46:31.933
SPEAK ON WHAT IS IT TO BE
FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT,

46:32.033 --> 46:33.533
PRAY IN THE SPIRIT,

46:33.633 --> 46:35.699
AND HOW DO THEY DO THAT?

46:35.799 --> 46:39.866
LEE: WELL, JESUS TOLD THE
DISCIPLES NOT TO LEAVE JERUSALEM

46:39.966 --> 46:42.000
UNTIL YOU RECEIVE THE
PROMISE OF THE FATHER.

46:42.100 --> 46:43.266
THIS IS ACTS 1.

46:43.366 --> 46:44.833
HE SAYS WHAT YOU'VE
HEARD ME TALK ABOUT

46:44.933 --> 46:46.966
WHEN I SAID NOT
MANY DAYS FROM NOW

46:47.066 --> 46:49.299
YOU WILL BE BAPTIZED
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

46:49.399 --> 46:52.099
HE SAID THEREFORE REMAIN
HERE UNTIL THE PROMISE COMES.

46:52.199 --> 46:53.500
SO THEY WAITED TEN DAYS.

46:53.600 --> 46:56.366
ACTS CHAPTER 2 IS
THE DAY OF PENTECOST.

46:56.466 --> 46:57.666
GOD POURED HIS SPIRIT OUT

46:57.766 --> 47:00.166
AND THEY WERE ALL FILLED
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

47:00.266 --> 47:02.133
THAT'S REALLY THE
BEGINNING OF IT.

47:02.233 --> 47:03.632
AND WE SEE THAT PATTERN
ALL THE WAY THROUGH

47:03.732 --> 47:04.732
THE BOOK OF ACTS.

47:04.832 --> 47:06.433
WHEN WE'RE SAVED,

47:06.533 --> 47:08.432
GOD PUTS THE HOLY
SPIRIT IN US

47:08.532 --> 47:11.266
TO SEAL US UNTIL THE
DAY OF REDEMPTION.

47:11.366 --> 47:15.099
BUT WHEN HE BAPTIZES
US IN THE HOLY SPIRIT,

47:15.199 --> 47:17.166
THAT IS AN EMPOWERMENT,

47:17.266 --> 47:20.266
A DIVINE, SUBSEQUENT
TO SALVATION,

47:20.366 --> 47:23.733
DIVINE EMPOWERMENT OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT UPON US

47:23.833 --> 47:24.933
TO ANOINT US.

47:25.033 --> 47:26.566
JUST LIKE JESUS HAD.

47:26.666 --> 47:29.233
AND IT'S NOT JUST
A ONE-TIME THING.

47:29.333 --> 47:30.866
PAUL SAYS IN EPHESIANS 5,

47:30.966 --> 47:32.366
DO NOT BE DRUNK
WITH WINE,

47:32.466 --> 47:34.666
WHICH IS DISSIPATION, BUT
BE FILLED WITH

47:34.766 --> 47:36.766
THE HOLY SPIRIT CONTINUALLY.

47:36.866 --> 47:39.399
THAT'S THE TENSE IN
THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE.

47:39.499 --> 47:41.466
CONTINUALLY BE FILLED
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

47:41.566 --> 47:44.666
WHICH MEANS WE'RE GONNA
NEED MULTIPLE FILLINGS

47:44.766 --> 47:45.600
IN OUR LIVES

47:45.700 --> 47:47.066
OVER AND OVER
AND OVER AGAIN.

47:47.166 --> 47:49.000
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LIVE
IN A CONSTANT TENSION

47:49.100 --> 47:50.333
OF NEEDING THAT.

47:50.433 --> 47:51.833
BUT THERE HAS TO BE
A STARTING POINT,

47:51.933 --> 47:53.566
A DYNAMIC STARTING POINT.

47:53.666 --> 47:55.533
SO ONCE YOU'RE SAVED,
OFTENTIMES WE THINK,

47:55.633 --> 47:56.699
WELL, I'VE GOT
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

47:56.799 --> 47:57.733
WELL, OF COURSE YOU DO.

47:57.833 --> 47:59.633
HE LIVES IN YOU.

47:59.733 --> 48:01.766
BUT IF I FILLED THIS
CUP UP WITH WATER

48:01.866 --> 48:04.899
UNTIL THERE COULD BE
NO MORE WATER IN HERE,

48:04.999 --> 48:07.066
AND THE WATER REPRESENTS
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

48:07.166 --> 48:08.399
THAT'S SALVATION.

48:08.499 --> 48:11.066
YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT YOU'RE EVER GONNA GET.

48:11.166 --> 48:13.599
BUT IF I PUT A FLAME
UNDER THIS CUP,

48:13.699 --> 48:15.666
IT WOULD CHANGE THE
DYNAMICS OF THE WATER

48:15.766 --> 48:16.700
IN THE CUP

48:16.800 --> 48:18.699
UNTIL IT BOILED
AND OVERFLOWED.

48:18.799 --> 48:20.799
THAT'S THE BAPTISM
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

48:20.899 --> 48:22.333
THAT'S THE POWER.

48:22.433 --> 48:24.566
YOU'RE NOT GETTING MORE
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

48:24.666 --> 48:26.166
IT'S JUST CHANGING
THE DYNAMICS

48:26.266 --> 48:27.766
OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT.

48:27.866 --> 48:29.466
IT'S AN EMPOWERMENT.

48:29.566 --> 48:30.866
REBECCA: AND IT
CAUSES THE OVERFLOW.

48:30.966 --> 48:32.166
LEE: IT CAUSES
THE OVERFLOW,

48:32.266 --> 48:35.133
WHICH IS THE GIFTS
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

48:35.233 --> 48:36.499
SO WHAT I TELL PEOPLE IS,

48:36.599 --> 48:38.466
NUMBER ONE, GO
TO THE WORD.

48:38.566 --> 48:39.533
STUDY IT.

48:39.633 --> 48:40.599
DON'T GO TO TRADITION,

48:40.699 --> 48:41.633
DON'T LISTEN TO ANYBODY.

48:41.733 --> 48:42.766
YOU GO TO THE
WORD AND LOOK AT

48:42.866 --> 48:43.932
WHAT JESUS SAYS ABOUT IT.

48:44.032 --> 48:46.266
NUMBER TWO, WHAT DOES THE
BOOK OF ACTS DEMONSTRATE

48:46.366 --> 48:47.633
WAS THE PATTERN?

48:47.733 --> 48:49.733
THEN DO WHAT JESUS SAID.

48:49.833 --> 48:53.366
HE SAID IN LUKE 11,
IF YOU ASK THE FATHER

48:53.433 --> 48:54.766
FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT.

48:54.866 --> 48:55.899
SO ASK HIM.

48:55.999 --> 48:58.599
FATHER, I WANT EVERYTHING
THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME.

48:58.699 --> 49:00.999
FILL ME AND BAPTIZE ME
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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I WANT ALL THE GIFTS.

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I WANT MORE OF
YOUR PRESENCE.

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I NEED THE POWER
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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BAPTIZE AND FILL ME
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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AND THEN WAIT.

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WAIT UPON HIM IN A PRAYER
AND A WORSHIP ENVIRONMENT

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AND YOU'RE GOING
TO EXPERIENCE,

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YOU'RE GONNA FEEL HIS
PRESENCE COME INTO THAT ROOM,

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COME UP FROM WITHIN YOU.

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JESUS SAID IT'S
GONNA BE LIKE RIVERS

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THAT FLOW OUT OF YOU.

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AND THEN WHAT I
OFTENTIMES TELL PEOPLE

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WHEN IT COMES TO
PRAYING IN TONGUES,

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WELL, HOW WILL I
KNOW, WHAT SHOULD I DO?

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YOU'RE JUST GONNA TAKE
THAT STEP OF FAITH.

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YOU'RE GONNA BEGIN
TO SPEAK OUT.

49:39.099 --> 49:39.966
IT'S NOT OUT OF HERE,

49:40.066 --> 49:41.433
BUT IT'S OUT OF HERE.

49:41.533 --> 49:43.166
AND BEGIN TO GIVE
VOICE TO THAT.

49:43.266 --> 49:45.500
OFTENTIMES I THINK IT
WORKS BEST IN WORSHIP.

49:45.600 --> 49:46.732
REBECCA: SAME.

49:46.832 --> 49:47.799
LEE: SO IT'S
LIKE PUT WORSHIP ON.

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WORSHIP GOD AND JUST GET
LOST IN HIS PRESENCE.

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AND REMEMBER, IT'S
NOT ABOUT THE GIFT,

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IT'S ABOUT THE GIVER.

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IT'S ABOUT KEEPING
OUR FOCUS ON JESUS.

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AND HERE'S WHAT I KNOW.

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I KNOW THAT HE GIVES IT
TO EVERYBODY WHO ASKS.

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SO IF YOU ASK, NO
MATTER WHAT MANIFESTS,

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NO MATTER WHAT GIFT MANIFESTS
OR DOESN'T MANIFEST,

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AS SOON AS YOU ASK AND
YOU'RE A CHILD OF GOD,

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YOU RECEIVE
AND IT'S YOURS.

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REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.

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WILL YOU SAY A
QUICK PRAYER

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FOR THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE LISTENING?

50:15.233 --> 50:16.033
LEE: I WOULD LOVE TO.

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FATHER, WE'RE SO GRATEFUL

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THAT WHEN YOU SEE US, YOU
DON'T SEE US THROUGH

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THE LENS OF OUR SIN.

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YOU DON'T SEE
US ANY LONGER

50:24.566 --> 50:26.666
THROUGH THE LENS
OF WHAT WE LACK,

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BUT YOU SEE US THROUGH
THE BLOOD OF JESUS,

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FULLY RIGHTEOUS,
WRAPPED IN THE ROBE

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OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,

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A NEW CREATION
IN CHRIST JESUS,

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SONS AND DAUGHTERS
OF THE LIVING GOD.

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AND I'M PRAYING
TODAY, FATHER,

50:39.033 --> 50:43.566
FOR THOSE WHO MAYBE ARE
IGNORANT ON THIS SUBJECT,

50:43.666 --> 50:46.500
THEY'VE NEVER BEEN
INFORMED ABOUT THIS,

50:46.600 --> 50:50.033
OR THOSE WHO HAVE
BIASES AGAINST IT.

50:50.133 --> 50:52.399
AND EVEN THOSE WHO ARE
JUST HUNGRY

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AND WANT MORE OF YOU.

50:53.566 --> 50:55.533
YOU SAID THOSE WHO
HUNGER AND THIRST

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FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS
WOULD BE FILLED.

50:58.099 --> 51:01.666
AND I'M PRAYING TODAY THAT TO
THE LEVEL OF OUR HUNGER,

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FATHER, YOU WOULD
POUR OUT YOUR SPIRIT

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AND FILL US.

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FOR THOSE WHO CALL
UPON YOU, LORD,

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ARE PRAYING IN THEIR LIVING
ROOMS, IN THEIR CARS,

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WHEREVER THEY'RE AT,

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LORD, MEET THEM,

51:12.899 --> 51:15.566
AND FILL US WITH YOUR
HOLY SPIRIT CONTINUALLY.

51:15.666 --> 51:18.566
HELP US TO WALK IN THE
POWER OF YOUR HOLY SPIRIT

51:18.666 --> 51:20.800
AND TO BE LED BY
YOUR SPIRIT TODAY.

51:20.900 --> 51:22.799
LORD, HELP US TO OVERFLOW

51:22.899 --> 51:25.533
SO THAT YOUR GOODNESS,
YOUR GRACE, YOUR POWER,

51:25.633 --> 51:26.899
IT OVERFLOWS OUR LIVES

51:26.999 --> 51:28.533
INTO THE LIVES OF
THOSE AROUND US

51:28.633 --> 51:30.566
SO THAT PEOPLE WILL
EVEN LOOK AT US AND GO,

51:30.666 --> 51:31.966
GOD'S REAL.

51:32.066 --> 51:33.333
I SEE IT IN YOU.

51:33.433 --> 51:34.833
I'VE EXPERIENCED
IT AROUND YOU.

51:34.933 --> 51:36.999
I KNOW GOD IS REAL.

51:37.099 --> 51:39.432
LORD, USE US TO POINT
PEOPLE TO JESUS.

51:39.532 --> 51:40.533
AMEN.

51:40.633 --> 51:41.733
REBECCA: AMEN.

51:41.833 --> 51:42.766
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

51:42.866 --> 51:44.566
LEE: THANK YOU.

51:44.666 --> 51:46.433
REBECCA: AND THE BOOK,
<i>SCHOOL OF THE SPIRIT,</i>

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WHICH IS THE BOOK
WE WERE REFERENCING

51:47.933 --> 51:48.933
THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION,

51:49.033 --> 51:50.066
WHERE CAN PEOPLE GET IT?

51:50.166 --> 51:51.566
LEE: THEY CAN
BUY IT ON AMAZON

51:51.666 --> 51:53.933
OR WHEREVER
BOOKS ARE SOLD.

51:54.033 --> 51:56.099
REBECCA: AND FOR PEOPLE
WHO WANT TO VISIT THE CHURCH,

51:56.199 --> 51:56.900
WHERE ARE YOU AT?

51:57.000 --> 51:58.999
LEE: RADIANT.CHURCH.

51:59.099 --> 52:00.232
REBECCA:
EVERYONE WELCOME?

52:00.332 --> 52:01.432
LEE: EVERYBODY'S
WELCOME.

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GO TO RADIANT
CHANNEL ON YOUTUBE

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AND WE'VE GOT A
LOT OF RESOURCES,

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INCLUDING SOME CLASSES THAT
ARE CONNECTED TO THIS BOOK.

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REBECCA: AWESOME.

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WELL, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

52:11.033 --> 52:11.933
LEE: THANK YOU.

52:12.033 --> 52:12.966
REBECCA: AND FOR EVERYONE
WHO IS LISTENING,

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I HOPE YOU'RE
BLESSED TODAY.

52:14.232 --> 52:15.200
AND YOU'LL COME
OUT OF THIS

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KNOWING MORE ABOUT
THE HOLY SPIRIT

52:16.799 --> 52:18.566
AND WANTING MORE OF A
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

52:18.666 --> 52:19.566
BYE.

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♪♪