REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HEY, GUYS.
WELCOME TO THE REBECCA WEISS PODCAST .
I'M SUPER EXCITED TODAY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD HER HUSBAND HERE,
AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR HER TO BE HERE,
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT CHRISTY JOHNSTON.
SHE IS AN INTERCESSOR, TEACHER, PROPHETIC VOICE,
AND A JUSTICE ADVOCATE.
CHRISTY, THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE SHOW TODAY.
CHRISTY JOHNSTON: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I'M SO HONORED, TRULY.
REBECCA: SO FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOU,
LET'S GET SOME BACKGROUND.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.
CHRISTY: ALL RIGHT.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T PICKED UP, THERE IS AN ACCENT,
I'M AUSTRALIAN.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: WE LOVE AUSTRALIANS HERE.
CHRISTY: YEAH, YEAH, I LOVE THAT.
WE MOVED OVER IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR,
BUT WE WERE LIVING OVER HERE IN JANUARY,
SO MARCH OF 2020 WE CAME OUT AND BASED ON A DREAM, ACTUALLY.
THE LORD TOLD US TO COME OUT IN MARCH OF 2020.
WE WERE WAITING FOR OUR VISAS AT THE TIME.
I HAD A DREAM WHERE A RED CIRCLE CROSSED AROUND MARCH 10TH
ON A CALENDAR, AND EVERY DAY AFTERWARDS
CROSSED OFF IN A BIG BLACK X.
AND SO WE CAME OUT JUST WAITING ON THE LORD,
WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO WHEN WE HAPPEN TO BE
THE LAST FLIGHT OUT OF AUSTRALIA WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
CHRISTY: MARCH 11TH, THERE WERE FLIGHTS TURNING BACK MIDAIR,
AND IT WAS JUST LIKE MY DREAM.
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS TO HAVE OUR DAUGHTER OVER HERE, AVA ARIELLE.
HER NAME MEANS VOICE OF THE LION.
SO SHE'S A LITTLE AMERICAN-AUSTRALIAN.
AND WE CAME OVER AND THEN WENT BACK AND GOT OUR VISAS,
SO NOW WE'RE HERE PERMANENTLY AS OF JANUARY.
REBECCA: WAS THAT A HARD PROCESS?
CHRISTY: VERY, YEAH.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOCKDOWNS AND EVERYTHING.
IT WAS -- WE HAD TO REALLY TRUST THE LORD
THROUGH EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE PROCESS.
BUT IT WAS A MIRACLE, ABSOLUTE MIRACLE.
WE WERE HERE FOR 23 MONTHS, I BELIEVE,
AND THEY TOLD US WE WOULD NOT GET ANY MORE EXTENSIONS
ON OUR TEMPORARY VISAS BEYOND THREE MONTHS,
AND WE GOT 21.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
CHRISTY: SO IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE MIRACLE.
ABSOLUTE MIRACLE WE'RE HERE NOW.
REBECCA: TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND DO.
CHRISTY: SO WE RUN AN ONLINE SCHOOL.
WE'VE JUST CHANGED THE NAME TO REMNANT.
IT'S REMNANT SCHOOL.
AND WE BRING IN ALL OF THEIR REVIVALISTS
AND ALL OF THE PROPHETIC PEOPLE THAT NEED TRAINING
AND WANT TO BE IN A COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE A COMMUNITY.
SO NATE AND I BOTH DO THAT TOGETHER.
AND THEN I SEPARATELY HAVE A PRAYER MOVEMENT
THAT I JUST RELEASED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE OVER FIVE THOUSAND WOMEN PRAYING ALL OVER THE WORLD.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
CHRISTY: PRAYING OVER THEIR HOMES AND THEIR CITIES
AND THEIR REGIONS.
SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING.
I LOVE SEEING WOMEN RISE UP AND PRAY.
REBECCA: FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET INVOLVED,
FOR WOMEN WHO WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THAT,
HOW DO THEY DO THAT?
CHRISTY: THEY CAN GO TO PRAYERHIVES.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY BASED OFF DEBORAH,
BECAUSE DEBORAH'S NAME MEANS A BEE.
AND THE LORD GAVE ME THIS LITTLE STRATEGY OF JUST
RAISING UP LIKE HONEY HIVES ALL OVER THE EARTH
AND THAT THEY WOULD GO OUT AND THEIR PRAYERS WOULD
RELEASE THE HONEY OF JESUS.
AND POLLINATING THE WORD OF GOD AND PRAYING OVER THEIR REGIONS.
SO IT'S CALLED PRAYERHIVES.COM.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
OKAY, SO THE DEBORAH MANTLE .
THIS IS THE BOOK, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
AND THIS IS YOUR NEWEST BOOK.
CHRISTY: MM-HM.
REBECCA: HAS IT RELEASED?
CHRISTY: IT HAS.
REBECCA: OKAY.
TELL US WHAT WAS THE INSPIRATION BEHIND THIS BOOK.
CHRISTY: I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR IT WAS JUST
DURING THE MIDST OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON.
ACTUALLY, IT WENT BACK TO WHEN I HAD AVA.
SO WE WERE IN THIS PROCESS OF JUST NOT KNOWING
WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH EVERYTHING
AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY BORN AROUND JANUARY 6TH.
SO IT FELT LIKE AVA WAS BORN INTO A WAR ZONE
OVER HERE IN THE U.S.
AND I REMEMBER --
REBECCA: WAIT, REALLY?
SHE WAS BORN JANUARY 6TH?
CHRISTY: SHE WAS BORN JANUARY 11TH.
SHE WAS DUE JANUARY 6TH.
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
CHRISTY: YES.
REBECCA: SO SHE WAS BORN AT A REALLY HEIGHTENED TIME.
CHRISTY: REALLY CHAOTIC.
AND I REMEMBER JUST FEELING THE WAR OF IT,
EVEN IN LABOR AND EVERYTHING.
REBECCA: WAS HER LABOR HARD?
CHRISTY: VERY.
REBECCA: YEAH.
CHRISTY: IT WAS LIKE A WAR EVEN WITH BIRTHING HER.
AND I FELT LIKE BECAUSE OF HER NAME,
VOICE OF THE LION OF GOD.
BUT I REMEMBER THE LORD BEGINNING TO SPEAK TO ME
BACK THEN AND I REMEMBER HOLDING HER,
SHE WAS A BRAND NEW NEWBORN,
AND WE WERE LIVING IN REDDING AT THE TIME,
REDDING, CALIFORNIA.
AND I WAS LOOKING OUT OVER MOUNT LASSEN
AND I JUST FELT THE WEIGHT OF FEAR.
AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU,
BUT WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING,
THERE WAS SO MUCH FEAR AND ANXIETY
AND JUST EVERYTHING FELT UNSTABLE,
EVERYTHING WAS SHAKING.
AND I REMEMBER JUST LOOKING AT THIS MOUNTAIN
AND CRYING BEFORE THE LORD AND I SAID,
WHAT IS HAPPENING, LIKE WHAT IS HER FUTURE GOING TO LOOK LIKE?
I'VE GOT THIS BRAND NEW LITTLE NEWBORN
AND I WAS JUST CRYING BEFORE THE LORD AND I FELT HIM SAY TO ME,
LOOK AT THAT MOUNTAIN.
LOOK AT THAT MOUNTAIN, CHRISTY.
HE GOES, YOU'RE FEARING TOMORROW,
BUT TOMORROW FEARS YOU.
YOU'RE RAISING TOMORROW IN YOUR ARMS,
AND YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY OVER THOSE MOUNTAINS
TO CAST THEM DOWN.
I LOOKED UP WHAT LASSEN MEANS.
IT WAS MOUNT LASSEN I WAS LOOKING AT,
AND LASSEN MEANS TO PERMIT.
AND I FELT LIKE THE LORD SPEAK TO ME THROUGH THAT AND SAY,
WHAT YOU ALLOW AND PERMIT TODAY
WILL BE WHAT YOU PERMIT FOR TOMORROW FOR YOUR CHILDREN.
AND SO IT WAS JUST LIKE THE LORD SPEAKING TO ME AS A MOTHER
AND I BEGAN READING JUDGES, JUDGES 4,
ABOUT DEBORAH, AND HER CRY WAS, SHE LOOKED AROUND,
AROUND ABOUT HER IN JUDGES 5:7.
SHE SAYS, VILLAGE LIFE WAS CEASING.
IT WAS CEASING ALL AROUND ME, BUT I AROSE A MOTHER.
AND IT WAS JUST THE LORD SPEAKING TO ME ABOUT
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE EARTH AND WITH CULTURE RIGHT NOW,
WHAT WE ALLOW AND PERMIT,
WE HAVE TO STAND UP AGAINST IT AND WE HAVE TO SPEAK
AND HAVE COURAGE TO STAND UP AND ARISE AS MOTHERS
FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.
REBECCA: SO THIS IS SUCH A POWERFUL BOOK
BECAUSE THE MANTLE OF DEBORAH ,
IT'S THE ROLE AS MOTHERS TO STAND UP
AND NOT TO GIVE INTO FEAR, WHICH HAS BEEN THE TEMPTATION
OF THIS DAY OR CONFUSION OR DECEPTION,
BUT TO RISE UP IN THE AUTHORITY THAT JESUS HAS GIVEN US
AND TO BE ON GUARD AND TO PROTECT OUR HOMES
AND THEN ALSO TO BE ON THE OFFENSIVE, AS WELL.
CHRISTY: THAT'S RIGHT.
YEAH.
I LOOKED INTO THE NAME OF SISERA.
SO HE WAS THE --
REBECCA: HE WAS THE BAD GUY, RIGHT?
CHRISTY: HE WAS THE BAD GUY.
[ LAUGHING ]
THE COMMANDER OF THE ARMY THAT HE JUST CREATED
SO MUCH ASCENSION IN ISRAEL AND SO MUCH FEAR.
AND THEY WERE LIVING VERY MUCH LIKE TODAY IN SO MUCH FEAR
AND CONFUSION.
AND HIS NAME MEANS CONFUSION AND FEAR.
AND I REMEMBER THINKING, WOW, SHE ALONE STOOD UP,
DEBORAH DID, AND SAW WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE.
AND THERE WAS AN ARMY.
ISRAEL HAD AN ARMY THAT COULD GO AGAINST HIM,
BUT EVEN THE ARMY COMMANDER, BARAK, WAS AFRAID.
AND IT TOOK DEBORAH TO ARISE,
AND THEN THE MEN CAME ALONGSIDE HER.
IT WAS LIKE -- I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE SEE
WITH FEMINISM NOW IS LIKE, OH,
JUST WOMEN STAND UP.
BUT NOW GOD WAS SHOWING US THROUGH THE SCRIPTURE
OF THIS BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO,
THAT WE NEED THEM, THEY NEED US.
AND IT WAS THIS COMING TOGETHER OF ARISING.
AND BARAK SAID, IF YOU GO, I WILL GO.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE LORD'S DOING THROUGH HIS CHURCH
RIGHT NOW, THAT THE WOMEN,
HE'S CAUSING THE WOMEN TO STAND UP AND ARISE,
HIS DAUGHTERS, THE MOTHERS,
TO STAND UP AND ARISE WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING TAKE PLACE
IN CULTURE RIGHT NOW.
AND AS WE STAND UP AND ARISE,
OUR HUSBANDS AND THE MEN ARE COMING ALONGSIDE US AND SAYING,
IF YOU GO, WE'LL GO.
WE'LL GO WITH YOU.
REBECCA: YEAH.
I DEFINITELY SEE IN THIS DAY AND AGE HOW IT'S THE MOTHERS,
I THINK, THAT ARE REALLY PICKING UP ON SOMETHING --
WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS GOING DOWN WITH COVID,
I THINK A LOT OF MOTHERS WERE FINDING THAT COURAGE
TO STAND UP OR AT LEAST WERE SENSING SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT,
AND I THINK THAT IN THIS MOVEMENT OF COVID,
WHAT'S COME THROUGH IT,
EVEN THOUGH ITS INTENTION WAS BAD,
WHAT GOD DID THROUGH IT WAS STRENGTHEN AND HELP PEOPLE
RISE UP TO STAND IN THE AUTHORITY OF THEIR HOME
AND NOT TO PUT THEIR HOPE AND THEIR AUTHORITY
IN A SYSTEM OR IN A GOVERNMENT AND UNDERSTAND
YOU ARE THE PARENTS, YOU ARE THE HEAD OF THE HOME,
AND YOU HAVE TO BE THE PROTECTORS OF YOUR CHILDREN.
AND I THINK WHERE BEFORE COVID, WE WERE LIKE,
THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, THESE ARE THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS WE HAVE,
THIS IS THE MEDICAL SYSTEMS WE HAD.
IT REALLY SHOOK ALL THAT AND MADE US RECOGNIZE,
OKAY, WE CAN'T PUT OUR HOPE AND FAITH IN A SYSTEM
AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO STAND ON GOD AND GOD ALONE.
CHRISTY: AMEN.
I REALLY BELIEVE GOD'S BEEN PULLING BACK THE COVERS
AND EXPOSING WHAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE BENEATH THE SURFACE.
AND FOR THAT REASON, IT'S LIKE,
THAT'S WHERE THE COURAGE OF THE MOTHERS ARISING.
AND YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS,
LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, ALL OF THESE BOOKS
AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE GOING IN.
AND YOU LOOK AT STATES LIKE WASHINGTON AND CALIFORNIA,
THEY'VE JUST INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO
REMOVE THE VOICE OF THE PARENT, OF THE MOTHER,
AND THAT TO ME SAYS EVERYTHING.
THE ENEMY IS SO THREATENED BY THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER
TOGETHER, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT
REMOVING THEIR VOICES AND TRYING TO SILENCE THEIR VOICES
RIGHT NOW, BUT I BELIEVE THE LORD IS
ANOINTING HIS DAUGHTERS LIKE NEVER BEFORE TO STAND AND ARISE.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
SO LET'S TAKE IT TO THE BEGINNING.
WHAT IS THE DEBORAH MANTLE ?
CHRISTY: I BELIEVE IT'S A MANTLE OF COURAGE.
IT'S COURAGE TO STEP INTO WHAT GOD IS CALLING YOU TO SPEAK INTO
TO STAND UP AND ARISE AND SPEAK.
AND A MANTLE ACTUALLY SPEAKS OF ANOINTING.
AN ANOINTING THAT'S RESTING UPON YOU.
WE LOOK AT ELIJAH WHEN HE WAS HIDING IN THE CAVE.
I REALLY FOUND THIS REALLY PROFOUND, ACTUALLY,
WHEN I WAS STUDYING ABOUT THE MANTLE AND WHAT A MANTLE MEANS,
AND ELIJAH WAS HIDING IN THE CAVE.
HE WAS HIDING FROM JEZEBEL.
HE WAS AFRAID OF SPEAKING UP.
BUT HE HEARD THE VOICE OF THE FATHER.
HE HEARD THE LORD COME IN THE STILL-SMALL VOICE,
SOFT WIND, RIGHT, SOFT BREEZE.
AND HE CAME OUT AND HE WRAPPED HIMSELF IN THE MANTLE.
HE WRAPPED HIMSELF IN HIS ANOINTING AND IN HIS COURAGE.
AND WE ALSO FIND THE WORD MANTLE IN DEBORAH
WITH THE STORY OF JAEL AND THE TIDE OF THE BATTLE
BEGAN TO SHIFT WITH JAEL.
AND SHE'S THE ONE THAT THREW A MANTLE OVER SISERA.
AND IT WAS LIKE THE LORD SHOWING ME THAT WHAT A MANTLE IS,
IT'S THIS STEPPING INTO THE ANOINTING
AND RECEIVING THE ANOINTING OF COURAGE,
THAT IT'S HIS COURAGE, IT'S NOT OURS,
BUT IT'S HIS MANTLE AND HIS ANOINTING
AND STEPPING INTO THAT, AND WHEN WE DO, THE TIDE OF THE BATTLE
BEGINS TO TURN.
REBECCA: AND JAEL, SHE WAS IN THE STORY OF DEBORAH, AS WELL.
SO THE STORY OF DEBORAH IS REALLY SHOWING THE ROLE
THAT WOMEN CAN PLAY, BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND
THAT WE DO IT THE LORD'S WAY,
LIKE YOU WERE REFERRING EARLIER,
WHEREAS THE ENEMY'S PERVERTING THAT
AND HE'S TAKING THIS NATURAL WOMEN, WE HAVE THAT INTUITION
THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US, RIGHT.
HE'S TAKING THIS THING IN WOMEN THAT GOD HAS USED US
TO BE MOTHERS AND PROTECTORS AND ADVOCATES
AND HE'S TWISTING IT THROUGH FEMINISM
AND IT'S ABOUT PUSHING MEN AWAY AND PUSHING MEN DOWN
AND DOING JUSTICE, BUT NOT HEAVENLY JUSTICE.
IT'S JUSTICE FROM A PERVERTED PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT AS WOMEN THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT
WE DO HAVE THIS INKLING IN US
BECAUSE GOD HAS DESIGNED US FOR THINGS LIKE WHAT DEBORAH DID,
WHAT JAEL DID, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT HIS WAY.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THE HUNGRY,
THE PASSIONATE WOMEN WHO WANT TO GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING?
HOW DO THEY GO ABOUT DOING IT IN A GODLY WAY?
CHRISTY: I WOULD SAY START IN THE SECRET PLACE WITH THE LORD.
AND I TALK ABOUT DEBORAH'S ARSENAL,
THE DIFFERENT TOOLS AND WEAPONS THAT THE LORD GAVE HER.
AND IN ONE OF THE SCRIPTURES,
IT TALKS ABOUT HOW DEBORAH HELD COURT,
WHICH ACTUALLY MEANS TO ABIDE.
SHE WAS ABIDING AND JUDGING FROM A PLACE
OF SITTING UNDER THE PALM TREE,
AND THAT PALM TREE ACTUALLY IN SCRIPTURE
REPRESENTS THE SECRET PLACE.
THE PALM TREES PICTURED ALL THROUGHOUT THE TABERNACLE
AND THE INNER COURT,
AND THE LORD BEGAN SHOWING ME, HE'S LIKE,
THE SECRET PLACE IS YOUR SECRET PLACE OF WEAPONRY.
WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SECRET PLACE,
RATHER THAN BEING CONFUSED ABOUT EVERYTHING
THAT'S GOING ON ALL AROUND YOU AND LOOKING THIS WAY
AND LOOKING THAT WAY, AND, OH, THAT'S THE ENEMY
AND THAT'S THE ENEMY, RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THAT,
WE'RE LOOKING TO HIM.
AND HE'S OUR WEAPON IN THIS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT AS WE COME INTO THAT SECRET PLACE WITH HIM
THAT HE GIVES US THE STRATEGIES
AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF KNOWING WHAT TO SPEAK
AND WHEN TO SPEAK AND HOW.
AND IT'S OTHERWISE WE'RE DOING IT IN OUR OWN STRENGTH,
AND WE JUST CANNOT FIGHT THIS BATTLE
IN OUR OWN STRENGTH.
IT HAS TO BE THROUGH HIS.
REBECCA: YEAH.
IF WE DO IT IN OUR OWN STRENGTH,
WE'RE GOING TO FAIL.
CHRISTY: YEAH, YEP.
REBECCA: AND WE WILL PROBABLY DO DAMAGE.
CHRISTY: THERE IS TOO MANY THINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
I TALK ABOUT TORNADOES OF THOUGHT,
AND IT'S LIKE WE HAVE TORNADOES SWIRLING IN THE SCHOOL SECTORS,
WITH CHILDREN,
WITH TRANSGENDERISM, ALL THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES,
AND ABORTION, THEY'RE ALL SWIRLING,
AND IF WE ENTER INTO THOSE WITHOUT THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB
AND WITHOUT HIS UNDERSTANDING AND HIS STRATEGIES,
WE WILL BE CAUGHT UP IN THOSE
AND GET TAKEN DOWN BY THEM, FOR SURE.
REBECCA: AND I THINK SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOOD INTENTION
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE WISDOM AND THEY GO IN THEIR OWN STRENGTH,
AND THAT'S WHAT GETS YOU TAKEN OUT
OR IT GETS YOU ALMOST, IT MAKES ME THINK OF ELIJAH,
HE GOT DEPRESSED AND GOD HAD TO COME IN
AND REVITALIZE HIM AND GIVE HIM HOPE AND GIVE HIM STRENGTH,
AND THEN HE WAS ABLE TO GO BACK OUT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE GOING UP
AGAINST STUFF LIKE THIS, AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO BE
ROOTED AND GROUNDED IN HIM AND YOU HAVE TO BE
CONSISTENTLY IN THE SECRET PLACE,
AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW JESUS LIVED HIS LIFE.
HE'S A MODEL FOR US.
HE WAS ALWAYS GOING.
HE WAS LEAVING THE CROWDS BEHIND,
LEAVING THE DISCIPLES AND GOING TO SPEND TIME WITH THE FATHER,
AND HE DID THAT THROUGHOUT HIS WHOLE MINISTRY,
AND THAT'S A BLUEPRINT OF HOW WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO LIVE OUR LIVES.
I WANT YOU TO SPEAK MORE UPON THE SECRET PLACE.
HOW DOES SOMEONE DWELL IN THE SECRET PLACE?
HOW DO THEY FIND IT?
BECAUSE I THINK WE USE THIS REALLY ARTISTIC LANGUAGE
AND I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND
HOW TO APPLY THAT PRACTICALLY.
CHRISTY: I USED TO THINK IT WAS JUST SITTING
IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD FOR HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS,
AND I WAS LIKE, I CAN'T DO THAT, GOD.
I WAS LIKE, I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR THAT.
REBECCA: ESPECIALLY AS A MOM.
CHRISTY: AS A MUM.
AND I, OKAY, SO I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY.
THE LORD BEGAN SHOWING ME WHEN I FIRST HAD MY OLDEST DAUGHTER,
CHARLOTTE, AND SHE WAS A LITTLE BABY,
AND I REMEMBER STRUGGLING WITH THAT.
LIKE HOW AM I MEANT TO HAVE TIME WITH THE LORD?
HOW AM I MEANT TO DO THIS WHEN I HAVE A BABY
AND SHE'S CRYING AND SHE NEEDS ME?
AND I REMEMBER THE HOLY SPIRIT SAYING TO ME,
JUST ABIDE WITH ME, TALK WITH ME AS YOU'RE GOING
THROUGH YOUR DAY, AS YOU'RE CHANGING DIAPERS,
TALK WITH ME, INCLUDE ME IN THOSE DETAILS.
IT'S NOT THIS LONG, I THINK WE EXPECT IT HAS TO BE
THIS THREE HOURS OF BIBLE STUDY EVERY SINGLE DAY,
AND IT CAN BE THAT.
BUT IT'S THIS ABIDING PLACE,
AND THAT'S WHAT HELD COURT.
WHEN DEBORAH HELD COURT, IT MEANS TO LITERALLY
ABIDE AND STAY IN THAT PLACE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT,
ESPECIALLY AS MOTHERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE
LITTLE CHILDREN OR EVEN OLDER CHILDREN
AND MAYBE YOU'VE GOT WAYWARD CHILDREN AND YOU'VE GOT
ALL THESE ISSUES GOING ON AND THINGS
THAT ARE TRYING TO PULL YOU.
IT'S INVITING HIM INTO THE CONVERSATIONS OF THAT
AND BRINGING HIM INTO THOSE DETAILS.
SO EVEN AS I'M COOKING DINNER,
I'LL SIT THERE AND I'LL BE TALKING WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
HEY, HOLY SPIRIT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
DO YOU LIKE THIS, SPIRIT?
I'M MAKING LIKE, JUST I REALLY INVOLVE HIM IN MY DAYS.
AND I REMEMBER HIM TEACHING ME THROUGH THAT,
I WAS WATCHING A TELEVISION PROGRAM ONE DAY,
AND THIS NEWS REPORT CAME UP ABOUT THIS MISSING BOY.
AND HE HAD BEEN MISSING IN OUR NATION OF AUSTRALIA
FOR LIKE 12 YEARS AND THEY HADN'T HAD ANY KIND OF LUCK.
THEY HADN'T HAD ANYTHING THAT GAVE A WAY OF WHERE HE WAS.
AND I REMEMBER CHARLOTTE WAS LIKE SIX WEEKS OLD.
AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS BEGINNING TO TEACH ME
ABOUT THIS ABIDING.
AND I REMEMBER HIM SAYING TO ME,
WHY DON'T WE PRAY INTO THAT TOGETHER?
AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY.
SO I JUST SAT THERE AND I STARTED PRAYING, I'M LIKE,
HOLY SPIRIT, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD RELEASE ANGELS
TO FIND WHERE THAT LITTLE BOY IS.
AND YOU KNOW WHERE HE IS, SO HELP THEM FIND HIM.
THE NEXT DAY, I'LL NEVER LIKE NEVER FORGET IT,
THE NEXT DAY, THEY HAD THIS SPECIAL REPORT.
THEY SAID, YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT.
WE'VE HAD THE FIRST POINT OF NEWS COME IN ABOUT HIM,
ABOUT HIS WHEREABOUTS AND WHERE HE IS,
AND IT HAPPENED AT THE EXACT TIME I PRAYED THE DAY BEFORE.
REBECCA: THAT'S WILD.
CHRISTY: THEY ENDED UP FINDING HIM.
AND UNFORTUNATELY HE HAD PASSED AWAY,
BUT IT ALLOWED THE PARENTS...
REBECCA: TO HAVE CLOSURE.
CHRISTY: TO HAVE THE CLOSURE THAT THEY NEEDED.
THEY HAD BEEN SEARCHING FOR HIM FOR LIKE 12 YEARS.
AND IT WAS LIKE THE LORD BEGAN TO SPEAK TO ME AND SHOW ME,
HE GOES, CHRISTY, YOU DON'T REALIZE
THE POWER OF YOUR PRAYERS, YOU'RE SITTING THERE
THINKING YOU HAVE TO BE IN THIS PLACE OF WORSHIP ALL DAY LONG,
BUT YOU ARE WORSHIPING ME
WHEN YOU'RE HAVING CONVERSATION WITH ME.
INVITE ME INTO THOSE DETAILS.
SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD EXPLAIN ABIDING.
IT'S JUST THIS CONTINUAL HABITATION AND TALKING WITH HIM
THROUGHOUT YOUR DAY.
REBECCA: YEAH.
I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
I THINK THERE'S SEASONS WHERE WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME.
WHEN I WAS IN BIBLE SCHOOL AND I WAS SINGLE
AND HAD NO CHILDREN,
I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT MY LIFE LOOKS SO DIFFERENT NOW.
AND SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL TO MAKE TIME
TO SPEND WITH HIM, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
HAVE HOURS ON END.
AND SO YOU'RE INTENTIONAL BY CARVING OUT TIME
TO SPEND WITH HIM.
BUT THEN I ALSO LOVE THAT YOU'RE INTENTIONAL TO GO
THROUGHOUT YOUR DAY, BECAUSE I THINK BEFORE I UNDERSTOOD THAT,
I WOULD JUST HAVE THAT TIME
AND THEN I WOULD JUST GO ABOUT MY DAY AND NEVER REALLY
INTERACT AS MUCH WITH THE LORD.
AND NOW WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS,
YOU CAN TAKE THAT THIRTY MINUTES,
THAT FIFTEEN MINUTES, TO READ THE WORD AND PRAY
AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, HOUR OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE,
BUT THEN YOU CAN ALSO TALK WITH GOD THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A BOOK,
IT'S BY BROTHER LAWRENCE, HE TALKS ABOUT THAT.
I THINK IT'S CALLED PRACTICING THE PRESENCE OF GOD .
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT HE TALKS ABOUT THAT VERY THING,
HOW HE WAS LIKE A CATHOLIC PRIEST BUT HE --
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BOOKS ABOUT HAVING RELATIONSHIP
WITH JESUS BECAUSE HE JUST TALKS ABOUT
HOW THROUGHOUT HIS WHOLE DAY,
HE WAS INTENTIONAL ABOUT SPENDING TIME WITH GOD
AND HOW HE JUST ALWAYS WAS TELLING GOD HOW HE NEEDED HIM,
AND HE WOULD FEEL THE HELP OF THE LORD.
AND SO I THINK GOD IS SO PRESENT AND SO WILLING,
BUT IT'S ON US TO RESPOND BACK.
LIKE HE'S THERE, HE'S WAITING, HE'S WILLING,
BUT WE HAVE TO INVITE HIM IN.
WE HAVE TO ENGAGE HIM.
HE'S ALWAYS WILLING, BUT IT'S ON US TO SPEND THE TIME,
TO TALK TO HIM.
AND EVEN HOW WE CHOOSE TO SPEND OUR TIME,
WHAT WE ENGAGE WITH, WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO,
WHAT WE'RE LISTENING TO, WHAT WE'RE WATCHING,
ALL THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND AFFECT US.
CHRISTY: I LOVE WHAT SOMETHING, BILL JOHNSON SAYS.
HE GOES, IF YOU HAVE A DOVE SITTING ON YOUR SHOULDER,
YOU'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT YOUR DAY AWARE OF THAT DOVE
BECAUSE YOU CAN EASILY SCARE IT AWAY.
AND THAT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT IS LIKE,
JUST BEING CONSTANTLY AWARE OF HIS PRESENCE WITH US,
EVEN AS WE'RE MOTHERING YOUNG BABIES OR HOMESCHOOLING.
I'M HOMESCHOOLING AT THE MOMENT AND I'M INVITING HIM
INTO THESE DETAILS, LET ME TELL YOU, I NEED HIM.
[ LAUGHING ]
HOLY SPIRIT, I NEED YOUR HELP IN THIS.
SO YEAH.
IT'S REALLY INVITING HIM AND INCLUDING HIM IN YOUR DAYS.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE OFFENSIVE BATTLE PLAN.
CHRISTY: MM-HM.
I BELIEVE THE LORD IS GIVING US, HIS DAUGHTERS,
STRATEGIES IN THIS HOUR, TO MOVE AHEAD OF THE ENEMY.
AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DEFENSIVE BATTLE PLAN
BECAUSE OF A FOOTBALL GAME -- I'M NOT A FOOTBALL GAME PERSON
AT ALL, SORRY.
I PROBABLY HAVE ALL THE TERMINOLOGY REALLY OFF.
BUT IT TALKS ABOUT HOW WHEN THEY ARE PLAYING ON THE FIELD,
THE OFFENSE TEAM,
OR THE TEAM THAT HAS THE BALL,
THEY'RE IN THE OFFENSE, THEY HAVE THE BALL
RATHER THAN THE DEFENSE WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THE BALL
BACK.
AND I BELIEVE MANY OF US, WHEN WE'RE IN PRAYER,
WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR AUTHORITY BACK.
AND THE LORD'S ACTUALLY LIKE, NO,
I'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU AUTHORITY.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT WITH JESUS.
YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN ALL POWER AND AUTHORITY IN HEAVEN
AND ON EARTH.
STOP TRYING TO GET BACK WHAT ALREADY BELONGS TO YOU.
AND PRAY FROM THAT PLACE.
PRAY FROM A POSITION OF, WE ALREADY HAVE THE AUTHORITY.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, WE STARTED WHEN I STARTED
THIS PRAYER HIVES MOVEMENT OF HAVING WOMEN GO OUT AND PRAY,
THE HOLY SPIRIT GAVE ME AN OFFENSIVE STRATEGY:
GO OUT, GET THE WOMEN TO GO OUT,
AND WALK A CIRCLE AROUND THEIR SCHOOLS
AND PRAY OVER THEIR SCHOOLS.
EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS,
I DO THIS AROUND MY LOCAL SCHOOL THAT WE LIVE BY,
AND WE GO AND TAKE COMMUNION AND WE APPLY THE BLOOD OF JESUS.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A FRIEND OF MINE,
SHE WENT INTO THIS, HER AND HER HUSBAND WENT INTO THIS,
AND THAT AFTERNOON, SO SHE FELT HER PRAYING
NOT JUST OVER HER SCHOOL BUT ALL OF THE SCHOOLS IN HER DISTRICT,
THAT AFTERNOON,
THEY APPREHENDED THREE SHOOTERS,
THREE ACTIVE SHOOTERS, GOING INTO A SCHOOL
THAT WAS IN THEIR DISTRICT.
REBECCA: OH, MY GOODNESS.
CHRISTY: AND THAT'S AN OFFENSIVE BATTLE PLAN.
IT'S MOVING INTO STRATEGY WITH THE LORD
BEFORE THE ENEMY HAS ANY POINT
TO BE ABLE TO RELEASE HIS WEAPONS.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
IT'S BEING PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.
CHRISTY: YES, MM-HM.
REBECCA: AND I THINK THE ENEMY'S CAUSING SO MUCH
RUCKUS AND CHAOS THAT HE WANTS US TO BE REACTIVE,
AND THAT'S WHY IT GOES BACK TO BEING IN THE SECRET PLACE,
GETTING THOSE OFFENSIVE STRATEGIES,
AND BE PROACTIVE.
YOU CHOOSE THE BATTLES TO FIGHT AND YOU FIGHT THE ONES
THAT THE LORD'S CALLING YOU TO
AND YOU DON'T REACT OUT OF EMOTION,
BUT YOU ARE NOT REACTING OUT OF EMOTION
BUT YOU'RE BEING LED BY THE SPIRIT.
CHRISTY: THAT'S RIGHT, YEAH.
AND I BELIEVE THE LORD'S DOING THAT WITH MANY OF HIS DAUGHTERS
RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE A YOUNG WOMAN THAT I SHARE ABOUT IN THE BOOK,
AND SHE STARTED, SHE FELT LIKE THE LORD SAY TO HER,
I WANT YOU TO GO AND APPLY TO BE ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS
OF YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT.
REBECCA: OH, MAN.
[ LAUGHING ]
CHRISTY: AND SHE DID.
SHE WON.
IT WAS LIKE THIS CRAZY AMAZING STORY,
BUT NOW SHE'S ABLE TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON ALL OF THESE THINGS
THAT ARE COMING IN.
AND SHE'S LIKE, IF I HADN'T HAVE TAKEN THAT POSITION OF AUTHORITY
WHEN I DID,
WE WOULD HAVE SEEN ALL OF THIS STUFF USHERED INTO OUR SCHOOLS
THAT IS JUST SO DEMONIC.
AND SO IT'S JUST LIKE THE LORD REALLY GAVE HER THAT STRATEGY
TO MOVE AN OFFENSIVE BATTLE PLAN.
AND I LOVE THAT HE'S DOING THAT IN US RIGHT NOW,
AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THAT.
REBECCA: I THINK SO, TOO.
I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT AND I THINK THERE'S
THIS UNDERSTANDING THAT IF NOT US, THEN WHO?
AND I THINK THE CHURCH IS AWAKENING TO THEIR IDENTITY
AS WE ARE THE MORAL AUTHORITY IN THE EARTH.
CHRISTY: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: I REMEMBER HEARING DEREK PRINCE SAY THAT
IN A SERMON.
CHRISTY: I LOVE DEREK PRINCE.
REBECCA: I DO TOO.
I KNOW, YOUR HUSBAND TOLD ME THAT, I WAS LIKE,
I LOVE YOUR WIFE.
BUT I REMEMBER HEARING HIM SAY THAT,
AND THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT,
I WAS SOMEWHAT OFFENDED.
BECAUSE I HAD BEEN SO CONDITIONED BY THE WORLD TO,
THE CHURCH HAS BEEN SO SHAMED AND PUT INTO A CORNER
BY THE ENEMY -- TRYING TO BE,
AT LEAST -- THAT WE DON'T WALK IN THE AUTHORITY
AND THE IDENTITY OF WHO GOD HAS CALLED US TO BE.
AND IT'S SAYING SIT DOWN AND BE QUIET AND DON'T SHARE YOUR FAITH
AND YOUR MORALITY IS REPULSIVE TO US,
AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
BUT WE ARE WHO JESUS SAYS WE ARE.
WE ARE HIS BRIDE.
AND WE'RE CALLED TO SHINE HIS LIGHT.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS WHO WE'RE CALLED TO BE,
THE MORAL AUTHORITY IN THE EARTH.
THE SPIRIT OF GOD INDWELLS IN US.
SO WE NEED TO RISE UP AND STAND AND BE WHO GOD'S
CALLED US TO BE UNTIL HE RETURNS.
CHRISTY: COME ON.
REBECCA: BECAUSE IF NOT US, WHO?
AND WE CAN TAKE UP THE FULL ARMOR OF GOD,
INCLUDING THE ARMOR AND THE WEAPONS,
AND WE CAN FIGHT THIS SPIRITUAL FIGHT.
AND IT'S NOT AGAINST PEOPLE,
IT'S NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE AIR,
THE PRINCIPALITIES, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR BATTLE IS
AND WHO WE'RE FIGHTING FOR.
AND KNOWING ALSO, LIKE YOU SAID,
AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO JESUS,
AND HE'S ALREADY WON.
SO FIGHTING FROM A PLACE OF VICTORY.
BUT I JUST LOVE THAT.
IT'S LIKE GOING ON THE OFFENSIVE.
THERE'S SO MUCH GOD CAN DO IF WE'RE JUST WILLING AND ABLE
AND OBEDIENT.
IT'S LIKE YOUR FRIEND JUST OBEYED GOD.
CHRISTY: SO SIMPLE.
IT WAS JUST SO SIMPLE.
JUST GOING OUT AND PRAYING AND JUST WATCHING THE LORD
IMMEDIATELY RESPOND.
REBECCA: AND I FEEL LIKE THERE'S PEOPLE EVEN LISTENING TO THIS
RIGHT NOW WHO I FEEL LIKE GOD IS
BEGINNING TO SPEAK TO THEM THAT MAYBE YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS
AND MAYBE GOD'S SPEAKING TO YOU,
HEY, I WANT YOU TO RUN FOR THIS POSITION
OR I WANT YOU TO DO THIS OR I WANT YOU TO VOLUNTEER IN THIS.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING?
HOW CAN YOU ENCOURAGE THEM IN THAT?
CHRISTY: I WOULD SAY KEEP STAYING IN THE SECRET PLACE.
STAY IN THE SECRET PLACE,
BECAUSE IT'S IN THAT SECRET PLACE WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AND I KNOW I'LL SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
I DO THROUGHOUT THE BOOK.
THAT IS YOUR STRATEGY AND WEAPON.
AND WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT SECRET PLACE,
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS PULLING AND UNDERSTANDING
AND KNOWING WHAT TO DO NEXT,
WHAT STEP TO TAKE NEXT, AND HOW TO DO THAT.
JUST LIKE MY FRIEND.
SHE JUST HAD THIS INKLING, I JUST NEED TO DO THIS,
I NEED TO APPLY TO BE ON THE BOARD,
AND THAT MEANT THAT SHE HAD TO UNSEAT
ONE OF THE EVIL BOARD MEMBERS THAT WAS SITTING THERE.
SHE HAD TO GO INTO A BATTLE FOR IT.
BUT THE LORD GAVE HER THE STRATEGY FOR IT STEP BY STEP.
AND I JUST BELIEVE THAT AS,
I FEEL LIKE SOMEONE'S WATCHING RIGHT NOW
THAT EVEN AS THEY'RE WATCHING, THEY'RE FEELING THIS
RISING UP WITHIN THEM.
AND MAYBE YOU'RE A MOTHER.
MAYBE YOU'RE SITTING AT HOME WITH YOUR CHILDREN,
YOU'RE LIKE, GOD, HOW DO I DO THIS?
AND I BELIEVE YOU JUST NEED TO LEAN INTO THE HOLY SPIRIT,
REST IN HIM, AND HE WILL GIVE YOU THE STRATEGIES
THAT YOU NEED.
YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY AND TRY AND FIGURE IT ALL OUT.
HE BRINGS IT TO YOU.
JUST LIKE HE GAVE ME THAT SIMPLE STRATEGY,
GO AROUND AND PRAY AROUND THE SCHOOLS,
APPLY THE BLOOD OF JESUS, TAKE COMMUNION,
AND JUST WHAT THAT SIMPLE STRATEGY WILL DO,
IT'LL BLOW YOU AWAY.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DEBORAHS RISING UP,
RIGHT AS THEY ARE LISTENING TO THIS.
I LOVE THAT.
I ALSO WAS THINKING, THAT WISDOM.
WHEN SOLOMON WAS, WHEN HE BECAME KING OF ISRAEL,
GOD COMES TO HIM AND HE SAYS,
IF I CAN GIVE YOU ANYTHING,
WHAT DO YOU WANT?
AND SOLOMON SAYS, I FEEL LIKE A CHILD,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.
GIVE ME WISDOM SO I'M ACTUALLY ABLE TO LEAD PROPERLY.
AND IT SO TOUCHED THE LORD AND HE GAVE SOLOMON WISDOM,
AND THAT'S DIVINE UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S WISDOM THAT DOESN'T COME FROM OUR OWN THINKING,
IT COMES FROM HIM.
AND THAT'S HOW SOLOMON, BECAUSE WE KNOW HE MESSED UP LATER,
BUT IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS REIGN,
HE WAS A VERY POWERFUL KING.
THE KINGDOM GREW, THE MONEY, EVERYTHING.
WHEN YOU READ IN THE BIBLE, IT'S SUPER IMPRESSIVE.
BUT IT'S BECAUSE HE HAD THAT WISDOM.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED WISDOM FROM GOD.
AND IT SAYS IN JAMES, IF WE WANT WISDOM
THAT ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK HIM, AND HE'LL GIVE IT TO US.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
I WANT TO DISTINGUISH, BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT,
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE PROPHETIC
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY INTENSE FEELERS,
HOW DO THEY DISTINGUISH BETWEEN OPERATING IN THEIR FLESH
AND DOING SOMETHING OUT OF A PLACE OF PASSION
VERSUS OPERATING IN THEIR SPIRIT AND DOING SOMETHING
FROM A PLACE OF OBEDIENCE AND SUBMISSION TO GOD?
CHRISTY: THAT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION.
REBECCA: I KNOW.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE
AND I'VE SEEN, I SAW.
IT'S LIKE YOU SEE WITH MOSES,
HE WAS PASSIONATE AND HE KILLED THE EGYPTIAN.
HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
CHRISTY: YES, TRUE.
REBECCA: PETER, HE SLICES OFF THAT GUY'S EAR.
THAT'S NOT WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.
AND GOD REINSTATES BOTH OF THEM AND SAYS, OKAY,
YOU WANTED JUSTICE, YOU WERE ON POINT WITH THAT
SOMETHING IS WRONG AND THIS RIGHT NEEDS TO BE DONE,
BUT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU MY WAY OF DOING IT.
AND I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING,
WHAT THEY HAVE TO BE SO CAREFUL WITH,
IS YOU CAN BE PROPHETIC, BUT YOU DO IT IN A FLESHLY WAY.
CHRISTY: THAT'S SO GOOD.
REBECCA: IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING PROPHETICALLY IS WRONG
BUT THEN YOU OPERATE OUT OF YOUR FLESH AND YOU DO MORE.
AND I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE I'VE DONE THIS.
YOU DO MORE DAMAGE THAN GOOD.
I'VE HAD TO LEARN.
I'M STILL LEARNING.
AND THEN VERSUS BEING PROPHETIC AND SUBMITTING TO GOD,
IT'S SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER IS YOU SAID
IT'S THE RIGHT WAY AND THE RIGHT TIME.
YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND YOU HAVE TO
DO IT AT THE RIGHT TIME.
CHRISTY: COME ON.
I FEEL LIKE, OKAY, I'M DEFINITELY A FEELER
AS WELL AS PROPHETIC, SO I MOVE IN BOTH, AS WELL.
REBECCA: AND THE FEELING IS INTENSE.
CHRISTY: MM-HM.
AND WHEN I SEE AN INJUSTICE, I'M VERY LIKE,
I FEEL LIKE GOD'S GIVING ME A MANTLE OF JUSTICE
TO GO AFTER JUSTICE IN THE EARTH, AND MY THING IS,
IS, RAH, LIKE, LET'S TAKE IT.
EVERYTHING.
AND YOU'LL SEE ME ONLINE, I'M VERY -- BUT SOMETIMES
IT'S LIKE I FEEL LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL PULL ME BACK,
JUST, LET'S HOLD ON A MOMENT.
IT'S VERY MUCH LEANING INTO HIS VOICE.
AGAIN.
IT'S HAVING TO LIKE BE SO ACUTELY AWARE OF THE VOICE
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
AND I FEEL LIKE I ACTUALLY HAVE THIS FEAR OF THE LORD UPON ME,
EVEN WHENEVER I'M -- YEAH,
FEAR OF THE LORD -- BECAUSE IF WE DON'T FEAR THE LORD,
HAVE THIS HOLY REVERENTIAL FEAR OF HIS VOICE
AND WHAT HE'S LEADING US TO DO,
WE WILL BE LED TO DO SOMETHING THAT MIGHT LOOK RIGHT
AND IT MIGHT HAVE THE RIGHT HYPE BEHIND IT,
BUT IT CAN ACTUALLY BE, LIKE YOU SAID,
LIKE AN ISHMAEL IN CREATING AN ISHMAEL,
WHICH CAN CREATE MORE DRAMA AND MORE PROBLEMS.
I FEEL LIKE IN THAT IT'S LEANING INTO HIS VOICE, HOLY SPIRIT.
SO EVEN WHEN I'M POSTING ONLINE.
AND I'LL SOMETIMES HAVE HIM SAY, HEY,
I NEVER ACTUALLY ASKED YOU TO POST THAT.
AND I'LL HAVE TO PULL IT DOWN, SORRY, LORD,
LIKE TAIL BETWEEN MY LEGS.
I'M LIKE, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
LEANING INTO THE FEAR OF HIS VOICE,
THE REVERENTIAL FEAR OF LIKE, JESUS,
I DON'T WANT TO MOVE IN ANY WAY THAT YOU'RE NOT.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT.
I WANT TO CONTINUALLY ASK YOU.
SO I REALLY DO.
I'VE CREATED A HABIT AND I'M STILL WORKING ON THAT,
ESPECIALLY WITH MY JUSTICE THING,
AND THERE'S SO MUCH JUSTICE.
IN JUSTICE RIGHT NOW, OF LEANING INTO HIS VOICE
AND ASKING HIM EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE WAY,
EVERY LITTLE STORY I POST, HOLY SPIRIT, IS THIS OKAY?
[ CHUCKLES ]
AND SOMETIMES, I'M TELLING YOU,
HE'S WAKING ME UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT,
YOU NEED TO PULL THAT DOWN.
OKAY, LORD, I'M SORRY.
AND THEN ASKING FOR HIS FORGIVENESS.
BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T WANT TO POST THINGS AND DO ANYTHING
OR MOVE INTO ANYTHING WITHOUT HIS APPROVAL.
SO I THINK IT COMES BACK TO THAT, THE FEAR OF GOD.
REBECCA: YEAH.
I THINK THE FEAR OF GOD IS KEY.
AND I THINK ALSO EXAMINING YOUR HEART AND BEING LIKE,
WHY AM I DOING THIS?
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING LED OF THE SPIRIT
OR IS THIS MY FLESH?
CHRISTY: THAT'S RIGHT.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: AND THEN ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS SOMEONE TOLD ME
ONE TIME IS, GOD MIGHT SHOW YOU STUFF PROPHETICALLY,
BUT MAYBE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY SOMETHING RIGHT NOW,
BUT YOU CAN PRAY INTO IT.
CHRISTY: OH, YEAH.
I'VE HAD THAT BEFORE.
PLENTY OF TIMES I'VE HAD A PROPHETIC WORD
AND HE'S HELD ME BACK FROM RELEASING IT.
AND IT'S KNOWING YET AGAIN,
WHEN DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE?
WHEN DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST STAY AND WAIT?
AND I FEEL LIKE THERE IS ACTUALLY LIKE A REFINING
THAT TAKES PLACE WHEN YOU'RE LEARNING TO LISTEN TO HIS VOICE
AND LEAN INTO THAT AND GO WHERE HE TELLS YOU TO GO,
BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID,
WE WANTED TO GET OUT THERE AND DO EVERYTHING,
BUT HE'S JUST LIKE, NO, NO,
I'M THE ONE THAT HAS A STRATEGY,
AND IF YOU'RE LEANING INTO ME WITH THE STRATEGY,
LIKE DEBORAH DID, SHE WAS UNDER THE PALM TREE,
AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY BETWEEN,
SHE WAS POSITIONED BETWEEN IT,
SO SHE WAS BETWEEN BETHEL, WHICH IS THE HOUSE OF GOD,
AND RAMEH, WHICH MEANS A HIGH PLACE, CONFUSION.
SO SHE REALLY HAD TO DISCERN AND LEAN INTO THE VOICE
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHAT IS THE LORD,
WHAT IS BETHEL, WHAT IS THE HOUSE OF GOD,
WHAT IS GOD LEANING INTO RIGHT NOW AND WHAT IS CONFUSION
AND HAVING TO JUDGE HER ACTIONS FROM THAT PLACE.
AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE IT WAS SO PROFOUND
THAT HER STORY STARTS RIGHT THERE AT THE PALM TREE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND THE PALM TREE WAS IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO?
CHRISTY: IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO PLACES.
REBECCA: AND SO THAT'S A PICTURE OF...?
CHRISTY: JUST LIKE THERE'S TENSION OF BEING
PULLED LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT AND KNOWING WHAT IS RIGHT
AND WHAT IS WRONG.
AND KNOWING HOW TO DISCERN AND WHAT TO SPEAK.
AND IT SAYS SHE JUDGED FROM THAT PLACE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO LIKE, WE'RE IN HIM,
BUT WE ALSO ARE LIVING HERE.
AND SO THERE'S EVEN THAT INTENTION
LIKE APOSTLE PAUL TALKS ABOUT THAT KIND OF TENSION
WHERE IT'S LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THAT TENSION.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, IF YOU FEEL THAT TENSION,
DON'T BE DISCOURAGED.
UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE WHERE GOD'S CALLED YOU TO BE,
BUT BE AWARE THAT THERE IS CONFUSION IN THE WORLD,
BUT THERE'S ALSO LIKE THE HOUSE OF GOD,
AND WE NEED TO BE ROOTED IN HIM BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND
WE ARE HERE IN THIS TIME TO DO WHAT GOD'S CALLED US TO DO
AND NOT TO BE PUT OFF BY THE TENSION
BUT LEAN INTO HIM WHEN YOU FEEL THAT.
CHRISTY: YES, YEP.
REBECCA: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT INTERCESSION.
BECAUSE I THINK, SO I WANT TO UNPACK THIS
BECAUSE INTERCESSION FOR ME WAS SOMETHING I AVOIDED
FOR A LONG TIME.
CHRISTY: OH, YEAH, ME TOO.
REBECCA: REALLY?
I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE ALL THE INTERCESSORS JUST LIKE FLY
INTO IT, BUT I GUESS THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
CHRISTY: I DIDN'T WANT IT AT ALL.
I WAS LIKE, THIS IS TOO MUCH.
BECAUSE I'M A FEELER AND I WAS LIKE,
I DIDN'T LIKE FEELING ALL THESE THINGS, LORD.
YEAH.
SO.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: OKAY.
SO I AVOIDED INTERCESSION.
I ACTUALLY AVOIDED IT BECAUSE I SAW SOME PEOPLE
THAT WERE BEING WEIRD WITH IT,
WHICH IS SUCH A OLDEST TACTIC IN THE DEVIL'S BOOK
IS HE WANTS TO GET YOU OFFENDED OR JUDGE
A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND THEN PUSH OUT THAT THING
ALTOGETHER.
SO I SAW SOME PEOPLE ACTING WEIRD
AND PROBABLY NOT VERY BIBLICAL.
AND I DON'T EVEN THINK THEIR INTENTIONS WERE BAD.
BUT I PUSHED OUT INTERCESSION ALTOGETHER AND I SAID,
I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, RIGHT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS I SEE THE ENEMY WORK IN PEOPLE IS,
OH, I DON'T WANT TO BE SPIRIT-FILLED
OR, OH, I DON'T WANT THIS OR I DON'T WANT THAT.
BECAUSE THEY JUST JUDGE A GROUP OF PEOPLE
AND THEY'RE MISSING OUT ON SOMETHING THAT IS THE LORD.
SO -- BUT AS I'VE GROWN IN THE LORD, IT'S REALLY,
LIKE YOU SAID, ONCE YOU DEVELOP THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM,
HE WILL DEVELOP EVERYTHING ELSE WITHIN YOU.
SO IN TIME, GOD BEGAN TO SHOW ME PRAYER,
AND I REALIZED PRAYER WAS SO MUCH MORE SIMPLE THAN I THOUGHT
IT WAS.
IT WAS RELATIONAL AND TALKING.
BUT THEN HE BEGAN TO SHOW ME THE POWER OF PRAYER.
AND THEN THAT WE ARE CALLED TO INTERCEDE.
AND I BEGAN TO FEEL THAT CALL AS A WIFE AND AS A MOM.
CHRISTY: WOW.
REBECCA: AND, MAN, I JUST,
I REMEMBER ONE TIME I WAS HOLDING --
THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT HOLDING YOUR KIDS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
CHRISTY: IT MUST BE PROPHETIC.
REBECCA: I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT IT,
BECAUSE I JUST HAD MY SECOND SON, BOAZ.
YOU HAVE THREE GIRLS, WHICH I JUST LOVE.
KIDS ARE THE BEST.
BUT I WAS HOLDING BOAZ.
AND I WAS LISTENING TO MY CHURCH'S, MERCY CULTURE, SERMON.
AND WHILE MY PASTOR WAS PREACHING,
THE HOLY SPIRIT GAVE ME THIS DOWNLOAD.
AND IT WAS CRAZY BECAUSE I'VE HAD LIKE VISIONS AND STUFF
BEFORE, BUT WHEN I USUALLY HAVE LIKE THAT VISION,
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS.
BUT I HAD THE VISION, AND THEN I UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT MEANT.
AND IN THE VISION, IT SHOWED THE HEAD AND THE SPINE.
LIKE IT WAS MAINLY LIKE THE UPPER TORSO
AND IT WAS MAINLY JUST THE SKELETON, LIKE THE BONES.
BUT I REMEMBER GOD SHOWING ME LIKE YOUR HUSBAND'S THE HEAD
BUT YOU'RE THE SPINE.
CHRISTY: WOW.
REBECCA: AND HE WAS LIKE,
EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES IS BASED OFF YOUR SUPPORT.
CHRISTY: WOW.
REBECCA: AND HE LITERALLY TURNS ON YOUR BACK.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, YEAH, HE'S THE HEAD,
BUT HE IS RELYING ON YOU.
AND SO GOD BEGAN TO DOWNLOAD ME,
HOW IMPORTANT MY ROLE IS IN THE MARRIAGE
AND HOW I NEED TO BE THERE FOR MY HUSBAND,
I NEED TO SUPPORT MY HUSBAND.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE SHOWED ME IS A WAY OF SUPPORTING HIM
IS THROUGH INTERCESSION.
CHRISTY: WOW.
REBECCA: AND SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S OUR JOB AS WOMEN.
SO YOU JUST SPEAK TO THE -- SO THIS IS JUST SOMETHING
I FEEL LIKE GOD'S BEEN DOWNLOADING TO ME
AND TEACHING ME IS I FEEL LIKE IT'S OUR JOB AS THE WOMAN
OF THE HOME IS TO BE THE INTERCESSOR OF THE HOME
AND TO COVER OUR FAMILIES IN PRAYER,
TO COVER OUR HUSBAND IN PRAYER.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT?
CHRISTY: REMINDED AS YOU WERE SHARING ABOUT THAT,
A FRIEND OF MINE SHARED AT A CONFERENCE RECENTLY
THAT SHE HAD A VISION --
HER NAME'S JENNY DONNELLY, AND SHE HAD THIS VISION OF AN ARROW,
AND SHE SAID SHE FELT LIKE THE LORD TELL HER --
I HOPE I'M EXPLAINING THIS THE WAY SHE DOES --
BUT SHE FELT LIKE THE LORD TELL HER
THAT WOMEN ARE LIKE THE ARROWS AND THE MEN ARE LIKE THE BOWS.
THAT WHEREAS THEY PULL BACK,
THEY'RE RELEASING US, AND THERE IS THIS BEAUTIFUL TENSION
BETWEEN US OF LIKE US COMING TOGETHER.
AND WITHOUT THE BOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RELEASED IN PRAYER.
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS THAT
INTERCESSION IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IS THE WORD PAGA',
AND PAGA' IS HIT BULLSEYE.
IT MEANS TO HIT BULLSEYE LIKE AN ARROW HITTING BULLSEYE
RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT INTERCESSION DOES,
THAT WHEN WE'RE PRAYING AND WE'RE PRAYING IN ACCORDANCE
WITH WHAT HE TELLS US TO PRAY.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT -- I THINK SOMETHING GOD SHOWED ME
WHEN I WAS REALLY WRESTLING WITH PRAYER AND INTERCESSION
BECAUSE I WAS LIKE BEGGING HIM,
GOD, I NEED YOU TO DO THIS, AND HE'S LIKE,
WHY ARE YOU PRAYING OUTSIDE OF MY WILL?
I WANT YOU TO PRAY WHAT I'VE ALREADY PRAYED OVER SOMEONE.
OR PRAY INTO WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT'S PRAYING AND LEAN INTO
WHAT HE'S PRAYING AND SPEAKING OVER THEM.
AND YOU SPEAK THE ANSWER, NOT THE PROBLEM.
AND THAT IS WHAT HITS BULLSEYE.
IT HITS THE BULLSEYE BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY
CALLING SOMETHING, CALLING THOSE THINGS THAT BE NOT
AS THOUGH THEY ARE.
AND BRINGING THAT INTO THIS INTO OUR PRAYER LIFE,
AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE SPIRIT HITTING BULLSEYE
OVER WHAT GOD HAS SPOKEN AND PROPHESIED OVER
THAT SITUATION OR THAT PERSON.
AND SO IT WAS JUST LIKE THE LORD GIVING ME THIS BEAUTIFUL PICTURE
OF LIKE TOGETHER AS A HUSBAND AND WIFE
WHERE THEY'RE BOW AND THE ARROW.
AND MY HUSBAND DOES THINGS THAT RELEASES ME
AND THEN I'LL DO THINGS THAT RELEASE HIM.
AND IT'S THIS BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF US TOGETHER.
BUT AS AN INTERCESSOR FOR MYSELF,
MY CALLING IS TO CALL THOSE THINGS THAT BE NOT
AS THOUGH THEY ARE, CALL THEM INTO THE REALITY OF NOW
AND SPEAK THE PROMISES OF GOD OVER THOSE SITUATIONS,
AND I HIT BULLSEYE.
AND I'VE SEEN GOD DO THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME.
AND SOME THINGS THAT I'M STILL PRAYING, CONTENDING OVER.
BUT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ROE V. WADE .
I REMEMBER THE LORD TELLING ME,
BEGIN CALLING THAT DOWN.
BEGIN CALLING IT DOWN.
AND WE'VE SEEN IT COME DOWN.
AND NOW WE'RE JUST SEEING DIFFERENT THINGS,
HAVING TO CHASE OUT THE PHILISTINES,
BUT PRAYER AND INTERCESSION,
IT HITS BULLSEYE IN THE SPIRIT.
REBECCA: AND IT'S ABOUT GOD'S HEART.
IT'S THE THINGS THAT ARE ON GOD'S HEART.
CHRISTY: IT'S PRAYING HIS HEART.
REBECCA: ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL ASPECTS
OF RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD IS WHEN YOU COME TO A PLACE
WHERE YOU'RE NO LONGER JUST ASKING THINGS FOR YOURSELF
BUT YOU MOVE INTO, GOD,
WHAT'S ON YOUR HEART?
WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU?
WHAT CAN I PARTNER WITH YOU?
AND WHAT'S SO INTERESTING IS,
GOD DIDN'T NEED TO NEED US.
HE COULD HAVE JUST DONE EVERYTHING HIMSELF.
BUT HE SET IT UP TO WHERE HE'S GIVEN US THE ABILITY
TO PARTNER WITH HIM.
CHRISTY: IT'S AMAZING.
REBECCA: AND TO JOIN IN THIS WORK
AND THE EXPANSION OF HIS KINGDOM AND LIGHT OVERCOMING DARKNESS
AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
HE'S GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO PARTNER WITH HIM.
AND SO IT'S THIS BEAUTIFUL THING AND IT'S AN HONOR.
AND SO PRAYING AND INTERCESSION,
THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN DO IT.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S GETTING TO THE SECRET PLACE AND SAYING,
GOD, WHAT'S ON YOUR HEART?
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO PRAY INTO, AND ASKING HIM,
HOW DO YOU WANT TO PRAY OVER PEOPLE IN MY LIFE?
AND I LOVE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CALLING THINGS AS --
I CAN'T EVEN SAY IT.
CHRISTY: WHAT IS THAT?
REBECCA: IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT CALLING THINGS -- YOU SAY IT.
CHRISTY: BE NOT AS THOUGH -- HANG ON --
CALLING THOSE THINGS THAT BE NOT AS THOUGH THEY ARE.
REBECCA: BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS, THIS IS,
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS
OF THE PROPHETIC, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY,
IS THAT WE USE OUR WORDS TO SPEAK LIFE OVER PEOPLE
IN THAT THEY MAY, THAT WORD DOESN'T RETURN VOID
AND THAT GOOD WILL COME OF THAT PERSON,
AND THAT THEY WILL, NOT JUST GOOD,
BUT THEY WILL WALK IN WHAT GOD HAS CALLED THEM.
CHRISTY: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND SO I THINK THE DEVIL WANTS TO USE US
TO SPEAK BADLY OF EACH OTHER AND TO JUDGE ONE ANOTHER
AND TO DO THESE THINGS THAT WILL CUT DOWN A PERSON
WHEN GOD HAS CALLED US TO SPEAK LIFE OVER PEOPLE
AND TO BELIEVE FOR THEM AND TO SHOW PEOPLE MERCY.
BECAUSE AS HE HAS SHOWN US MERCY AND GRACE,
WE HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED IS WHEN WE SHOW OTHER PEOPLE
MERCY AND GRACE, THEY WILL BE TRANSFORMED
BECAUSE WE'RE IN THAT TIME AND SEASON NOW.
AND SOMETIMES THE MERCIFUL THING IS CALLING SOMEONE OUT
IN A LOVING WAY.
IT'S NOT SAYING NEVER CALLING OUT WHAT'S WRONG,
BUT IT'S SAYING THAT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS
OF THE PROPHETIC IS WHAT GOD DOES,
HE SPEAKS THINGS INTO EXISTENCE,
AND WE'RE COMING INTO, WE'RE NOT SPEAKING THINGS
OUT OF OUR OWN.
WE'RE SAYING, GOD, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS PERSON?
I'VE CALLED THIS PERSON TO BE A LEADER,
I'VE CALLED THIS PERSON TO BE AN INTERCESSOR,
I'VE CALLED THIS PERSON TO BE A PRIEST OF THEIR FAMILY.
AND SO YOU'RE SPEAKING LIFE OVER THEM.
CHRISTY: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S COMING INTO PARTNERSHIP WITH GOD
WHO WANTS TO SEE ALL OF HIS CHILDREN GROW
INTO THE FULL MATURITY OF WHO HE'S CALLED THEM TO BE.
SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING AND IT'S A POWERFUL THING
AND IT'S AN ENCOURAGING THING.
SO I LOVE ALL THAT.
WHAT ARE SOME SIMPLE PRAYERS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE
PRAYING EVERY SINGLE DAY?
WHAT ARE SOME THINGS YOU PRAY ALL THE TIME?
CHRISTY: I PRAY PSALMS 91 PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY.
I LOVE PRAYING PROTECTION OVER MY FAMILY AND MY CHILDREN.
I WILL CONSTANTLY PRAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT
WILL ENCOUNTER MY CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY OVER PRAYING
OVER MY CHILDREN WHEN IT SPEAKS OF TALKING ABOUT THEM.
I'LL PRAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL ENCOUNTER THEM.
HOLY SPIRIT, GIVE THEM A HEART TO KNOW YOU.
I REALLY GO AFTER THAT, LIKE GIVE THEM A HEART TO KNOW YOU
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM BASING THEIR RELATIONSHIP
OFF OF ME.
I REALLY DID THAT GROWING UP.
MY RELATIONSHIP WAS VERY MUCH WHAT I HAD SEEN MY PARENTS DOING
AND I WRESTLED WITH THAT
WHEN I CAME INTO MY TEENS, AND SO I VERY MUCH GO AFTER
WANTING TO TEACH MY CHILDREN INTIMACY WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT
FOR THEMSELVES.
SOME OTHER THINGS I LOVE TO PRAY IS ISAIAH 54:17,
NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST ME SHALL PROSPER,
AND WE HAVE MANY WEAPONS FORMING RIGHT NOW OVER US
AND OVER EVERYONE, NOT JUST OVER US INDIVIDUALLY.
BUT YEAH, I LOVE TO PRAY THOSE.
I PRAY PROTECTION.
AND THEN ESPECIALLY I'LL ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT,
WHAT'S ON YOUR HEART TODAY?
WHAT IS ON YOUR HEART TODAY FOR MY DAY?
AND I'LL LEAN INTO THAT.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
THOSE ARE SOME GOOD PRAYERS.
HOW DO YOU FOSTER YOUR CHILDREN?
I'M ASKING AS A MOM.
CHRISTY: GO FOR IT.
REBECCA: HOW DO YOU HELP FOSTER YOUR CHILDREN
TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR KIDS ARE REALLY LITTLE.
BECAUSE I WANT TO DO THAT, BUT I'M LIKE,
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
CHRISTY: WITH AVA, SO AVA IS MY YOUNGEST.
SHE'S VERY SIMPLE, BASIC THINGS,
SHOWING HER LITTLE BIBLE, BIBLE BOARD BOOKS AND ALL
THAT KIND OF THING.
AND SHE LOVES READING ABOUT NOAH'S ARK.
REBECCA: SO DOES MINE.
CHRISTY: THAT'S SO CUTE.
THEY LOVE ALL THE ANIMALS.
SO I'LL SHOW HER THAT.
AND THEN I'LL SHOW HER JESUS AND POINT OUT JESUS SO SHE'LL SAY
JESUS EVERY SINGLE TIME WE TURN THE PAGE, JESUS.
IT'S VERY SIMPLE WITH AVA.
BUT I DO PRAY OVER HER AS THOUGH HER SPIRIT UNDERSTANDS.
SO WHEN SHE'S GOING TO SLEEP,
I WILL PRAY OVER HER, AND SHE MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND.
SHE'S ONLY TWO.
REBECCA: HER MIND DOESN'T UNDERSTAND,
BUT HER SPIRIT CAN RECEIVE IT.
CHRISTY: YES.
SO I SPEAK OVER HER AS THOUGH SHE FULLY UNDERSTANDS
EVERYTHING I'M SAYING.
I CALL OUT WHO SHE IS.
YOU'RE A MIGHTY WOMAN OF GOD.
WITH MY OLDER TWO, CHARLOTTE AND SOPHIE,
THEY'RE 12 AND 9, AND WE VERY MUCH FOSTER A LIKE
WE'LL TRY AND DO DEVOTIONS WITH THEM AS OFTEN AS WE CAN.
NOT EVERY DAY.
WE TRY AND DO IT EVERY DAY,
BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: I LOVE IT, KEEP IT REAL.
CHRISTY: YES.
VERY REAL.
BUT WE DO TRY AND DO THAT.
WE HAVE WORSHIP PLAYING ALL THE TIME.
OUR GIRLS LOVE WORSHIP.
SOMETHING THAT WE JUST -- WE FOUND, AS WELL,
AT THE CONFERENCE THAT WE WERE AT JUST LAST,
IT WAS ABOUT WOMEN, IT WAS ALL FOR WOMEN,
AND I LOVED THAT THEY SAID, THEY SAID,
GET YOUR CHILDREN IN THE ROOM.
GET THEM IN THE ROOM WHERE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MOVING.
THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE AT OUR CHILDREN'S CHURCH.
BRING THEM INTO THE ROOM WHERE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MOVING.
AND THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND THERE WAS SOMETHING SO PROFOUND THAT HAPPENED
WITH THAT.
I WATCHED MY OLDEST DAUGHTER, CHARLOTTE,
SHE WAS IN THE ROOM WITH US WATCHING LIKE THE LORD MOVE
ON GEN Z.
THERE WAS LIKE THIS POWERFUL MOMENT WHERE GEN Z,
WERE ON THEIR FACES, AND MY DAUGHTER, CHARLOTTE,
WAS LIKE CRYING.
AND SHE SAID TO ME, MOM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS,
BUT I CAN FEEL SOMETHING HAPPENING.
AND I SAID, HONEY, THAT'S THE HOLY SPIRIT.
REBECCA: AW.
CHRISTY: FEELING THE HOLY SPIRIT.
SO IT WAS LIKE SHE WAS ABLE TO REALLY FEEL AND SENSE.
AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS GENERATION,
GEN Z AND GEN ALPHA, ARE GOING TO HAVE,
BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S COME AGAINST THEM,
I FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE SUCH A MIGHTY CALLING UPON THEIR LIVES,
AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THEM
STEP INTO THAT MUCH YOUNGER THAN WE ALL HAVE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
CHRISTY: THEY'RE GOING TO STEP INTO THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY A SENSITIVITY THERE
FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SO PLAGUED
WITH NOISE AND CONFUSION AND ALL THESE NARRATIVES GOING ON,
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE THEM
RESPOND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT SO FAST,
AND I BELIEVE HE'S GOING TO POUR OUT HIS SPIRIT.
WE WATCHED GEN Z FALL TO THEIR FACES.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
BUT WATCHING CHARLOTTE IN THE ROOM,
I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING POWERFUL LIKE
DON'T EXCLUDE YOUR CHILDREN FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WHEN YOU'RE HAVING BIBLE STUDIES,
BRING THEM IN AND INVOLVE THEM IN THOSE STORIES.
I THINK IT'S BILL JOHNSON AGAIN, HE SAID,
THERE IS NO JUNIOR HOLY SPIRIT.
SO TEACH THEM THE WAYS OF GOD.
SHOW THEM HOW YOU'RE LIVING IN YOUR LIFE
AND INVITE THEM INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS,
EVEN IF THEY'RE BORED, EVEN IF THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND
LIKE CRAZY, BRING THEM INTO THOSE STORIES,
LET THEM BE IN THE PRESENCE OF THAT ROOM.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, TOO, IT'S STEWARDING IT IN YOUR OWN HOME.
CHRISTY: YES.
THAT'S PROFOUND.
AND I FEEL LIKE MANY PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT.
WE EXPECT CHILDREN'S CHURCH TO DO THAT FOR US.
REBECCA: YEAH, IT'S NOT CHILDREN'S CHURCH'S JOB.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TELL PARENTS.
[ CHUCKLES ]
CHRISTY: NO, IT'S NOT.
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID TOO THAT WAS REALLY PROFOUND
WITH MY MIDDLE DAUGHTER, SOPHIE,
WHEN COVID BEGAN HITTING REALLY HARD,
SHE'S VERY SENSITIVE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AND I NOTICED THAT VERY EARLY ON WITH HER.
AND SHE STARTED GETTING NIGHTMARES.
EVERY NIGHT, SHE WAS AFRAID TO GO TO BED AT NIGHT.
SO WE HAD HER LIKE WE WOULD PRAY OVER HER
BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE HER PRAY THE SCRIPTURES, AS WELL.
AND WE BEGAN TO SEE THOSE NIGHTMARES JUST DISSIPATE
WITHIN A MONTH.
THEY WERE JUST GONE.
AND I KNOW LIKE EVERY SINGLE TIME,
SHE'LL SAY TO ME, OH, MUM, WE'VE GOT TO PRAY THE PRAYERS TONIGHT.
PSALM 4:8 AND PEACE I WILL LIE DOWN AND SLEEP.
SHE KNOWS THE VERSES BECAUSE WE'VE LED HER THROUGH THAT.
SO EVEN WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THINGS THEMSELVES,
TEACHING THEM IN THOSE MOMENTS,
THEY'RE TEACHABLE MOMENTS, HERE,
THIS IS WHERE YOU GET TO TALK TO JESUS.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
HOW DOES A MOM BE A PROTECTOR OVER HER HOME
AND OVER HER CHILDREN?
BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE JOBS OF THE MOTHER IS
SHE'S ONE OF THE CHILDREN'S --
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEING UNDERMINED IN SOCIETY IS
THE FATHER AND THE MOTHER BEING THE AUTHORITY
AND THE PROTECTOR OVER THEIR CHILDREN,
AND THAT KEEPS BEING, LIKE I SAID, UNDERMINED.
SO HOW DOES A MOTHER BE THAT TO HER CHILDREN?
CHRISTY: I THINK A MOTHER IN SCRIPTURE IS
LIKE THE PICTURE OF A DOORWAY.
WHAT ARE YOU LETTING IN?
WHAT ARE YOU OPENING UP YOUR HOME TO?
ARE YOU ALLOWING ENTERTAINMENT TO JUST RAISE YOUR CHILDREN?
AND YOU THINK ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT,
THE WORD ENTER, WHAT ARE YOU ALLOWING ENTER INTO YOUR HOME?
AND I THINK MOTHERS AND WATCHMEN WATCH DAUGHTERS, WATCHWOMEN.
WE'RE WATCHMEN OVER OUR HOMES.
GOD'S GIVEN US THAT ABILITY.
AND A WATCHMAN IN THE BIBLE,
THEY HAD A HIGH TOWER AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE
WHEN THE ENEMY WAS COMING.
AND I BELIEVE GOD HAS GIVEN US AS WOMEN DISCERNMENT
TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE ENEMY COMING
AND TO BE ABLE TO SHUT THE DOOR TO THAT.
AND I THINK SO MANY OF US GET SO CAUGHT UP IN OUR DAILY ROUTINE.
WE'RE NOT KEEPING WATCH OVER WHAT'S ENTERING INTO OUR HOME.
ARE WE ALLOWING CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN MY HUSBAND AND I
THAT SHOULDN'T BE SPOKEN?
OR IS THERE TELEVISION OR A MOVIE THAT'S BEING WATCHED,
EVEN BY YOUNGER CHILDREN,
THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON.
REBECCA: THERE'S SO MUCH.
YOU HAVE TO BE SO HYPERVIGILANT, YEP.
YOU DO.
AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID,
YOU ARE GOING TO PERMIT WHAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE EXPOSED TO.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, SO WE PROTECT,
BUT THEN WE ALSO, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER,
WE STEWARD WHAT'S IN THE HOME.
CHRISTY: MM-HM.
REBECCA: AND SO I LEARNED THERE'S TWO PARTS TO IT.
THERE'S THE PROTECTION, AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING DARKNESS,
EVIL, ANYTHING BAD INTO THE HOME.
THEN IT'S ALSO STEWARDING AND CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT
WHERE GOD'S PRESENCE IS IN THE HOME, AS WELL.
SO IT'S A TWO-WAY THING.
BECAUSE I'VE SEEN PARENTS RAISE THEIR CHILDREN VERY STRICT
AND THERE'S RULES OF LIKE
DON'T DO THIS AND DON'T DO THAT, DON'T DO THAT.
BUT THERE'S NO PRESENCE OF THE LORD,
THERE'S NO INTIMACY WITH JESUS.
AND THE REASON WHY WE DON'T WANT THESE THINGS,
YOU HATE WHAT IS EVIL, YOU LOVE WHAT IS GOOD,
IS BECAUSE THAT GOOD IS WE LOVE HIM.
AND WHEN YOU'RE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM,
YOU DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THAT STUFF.
CHRISTY: YEP.
REBECCA: AND I THINK ABOUT GROWING UP IN CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS,
AND I REMEMBER BEING TOLD,
DON'T WEAR THIS, AND DA DA DA DA,
AND THEY WOULD JUST THROW SO MANY RULES ON ME.
BUT IT WAS WHEN, YEAH.
BUT IT WASN'T ACTUALLY UNTIL WHEN I SURRENDERED MY LIFE
TO GOD AT 19 THAT NO ONE EVER HAD TO TELL ME HOW TO DRESS,
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO DRESS THAT WAY.
IT'S LIKE, WHEN YOU GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD,
HE TRANSFORMS YOU.
AND SO I THINK BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I'VE SEEN PARENTS BE LAX AND ALLOW CERTAIN THINGS
INTO THE HOME, AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE SO CAREFUL
BECAUSE THEY ARE SO VULNERABLE AND SO EASILY,
WHAT'S THE WORD, THEY ARE EASILY MOLDED.
AND SO THEY ARE IMPRESSIONABLE.
AND SO THERE'S THAT, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE
IN SHOWING YOUR CHILDREN WHO GOD IS.
BECAUSE YOU ARE THE PRIEST OF YOUR HOME.
CHRISTY: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: THE HUSBAND IS THE HIGH PRIEST OF THE HOME.
AND SO, YES, WE GO TO CHURCH.
IT'S NOT UNDERMINING THE IMPORTANCE OF CHURCH,
BUT IT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT CHURCH ISN'T JUST A BUILDING
ON SUNDAY.
IT'S LIKE WE ARE THE CHURCH AND THAT'S HOW WE LIVE
OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES.
SO WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL.
CHRISTY: MM-HM.
I THINK, TOO, LIKE I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE MOTHER
THAT MIGHT BE SAYING, WELL,
WHAT ABOUT MY CHILDREN THAT ARE GOING TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS
EVERY SINGLE DAY, ALL OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS,
AND I CAN'T HELP THAT, I FEEL LIKE,
FOR THAT MOTHER, YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE PREPARER,
LIKE YOU GUIDE YOUR CHILDREN AND GUIDE THEIR HEARTS,
AND WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE WORLD,
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PRAY OVER THEM,
BUT NOT JUST THAT, PREPARE THEM FOR GOING OUT THERE.
SPEAK TO THEM.
HELP THEM TO KNOW HOW TO PUT ON THEIR ARMOR.
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
CHRISTY: AND TO KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR AND TO BE DISCERNING.
YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AS A MOTHER TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN
WHAT TO DISCERN AND HOW TO DISCERN IT.
AND I THINK A PART OF THAT IS TEACHING THEM
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR THEMSELVES.
REBECCA: YES.
CHRISTY: SO THAT THEY KNOW HIS VOICE.
MY SHEEP KNOW MY VOICE AND THEY KNOW WHICH WAY TO WALK.
SO WHEN OUR CHILDREN ARE GOING OUT THERE INTO THE WOLVES,
THEY'LL KNOW WHICH WAY TO WALK.
THEY WON'T BE SWAYED TO THE LEFT OR TO THE RIGHT.
IT'S SO IMPORTANT WE'RE TEACHING THEM AT HOME RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIM.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO IMPORTANT
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR KIDS AWAY
FROM THE WORLD FOREVER.
CHRISTY: WE DON'T BUBBLEWRAP THEM.
I WANT TO, BUT --
REBECCA: I KNOW, ME TOO.
BUT THAT WON'T HELP PREPARE THEM TO FACE WHAT'S TO COME.
AND SO LIKE YOU, I LOVE WHAT THE LORD SAID.
I WANT YOU TO REPEAT THAT AGAIN.
IT SAYS YOU'RE RAISING -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEAR TOMORROW,
YOU'RE RAISING TOMORROW.
WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN?
CHRISTY: YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEAR TOMORROW, TOMORROW FEARS YOU.
IS LIKE THE ENEMY FEARING WHO YOU'RE RAISING
BECAUSE YOU'RE RAISING GIANT-KILLERS.
REBECCA: AND I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE CHILDREN NOW,
THEY'RE GOING TO BE --
CHRISTY: OH, YEAH.
REBECCA: -- SOMETHING ELSE.
CHRISTY: OH, YEAH.
THERE IS SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THEM.
GENERATION ALPHA, THE ALPHA AND OMEGA, IT'S, YEAH.
THE LORD IS DOING SOMETHING AMAZING WITH GEN Z, GEN ALPHA.
AND THERE'S JUST SOMETHING ON THEM,
AND I BELIEVE THE LORD, LIKE THE ENEMY'S OVERPLAYED HIS HAND
WITH OUR CHILDREN.
HE REALLY HAS.
AND THAT'S MAMA BEARS ARISING RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU DON'T COME NEAR OUR CHILDREN.
YOU DON'T COME NEAR THIS GENERATION.
AND WE'RE GOING TO STAND GUARD AND WATCH THEM BE
RELEASED INTO EVERYTHING THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS SET
UPON THEM.
REBECCA: YOU WERE GIVING AN ILLUSTRATION EARLIER
OF HOW THE HUSBAND'S LIKE THE BOW,
THE WIFE IS LIKE THE ARROW,
AND I THINK ONE THING THAT'S SO IMPORTANT
IS THAT A COUPLE IS UNITED.
CHRISTY: YES.
REBECCA: HOW DOES A COUPLE BE UNITED IN THE SPIRIT
AND WORK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF AGAINST ONE ANOTHER?
CHRISTY: NATE AND I HAD TO LEARN EARLY ON.
WE USED TO FIGHT A LOT.
[ LAUGHING ]
NOT A LOT, BUT WE WOULD.
WE WOULD WRESTLE WITH DIFFERENT THINGS,
AND ESPECIALLY IN PARENTING.
PARENTING'S HARD.
REBECCA: YEAH.
CHRISTY: BUT WE STARTED WORSHIPING TOGETHER EVERY NIGHT,
AND THAT, I'M TELLING YOU,
SHIFTED EVERYTHING FOR US.
REBECCA: AW, I LOVE THAT.
CHRISTY: AND AT FIRST I WAS LIKE,
I FELT REALLY WEIRD, WORSHIPING IN FRONT OF MY HUSBAND,
I'M LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS MOMENT.
I'M NOT EXACTLY A SINGER, HE IS,
AND IF I HAVE THIS BURST OUT MOMENT, IT SOUNDS TERRIBLE.
[ LAUGHING ]
BUT LEANING INTO THAT, THE MORE AND MORE WE DID IT,
IT WAS JUST LIKE, IT BECAME A STRENGTH FOR US.
IT WAS LIKE A UNIFIER FOR US.
AND WE BEGAN MOVING TOGETHER AS ONE IN THAT.
AND I THINK NOT MANY COUPLES DO THAT.
WE LIKE ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT TO SOMEONE
AND THEY LOOKED AT US LIKE WE WERE WEIRD LIKE,
YOU GUYS WORSHIP TOGETHER?
THAT'S SO BIZARRE.
AND WE WERE LIKE, ACTUALLY,
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S -- JESUS IS THE HEAD OF THE HOUSE.
AND THEN UNDER THAT ARE HUSBANDS.
AND UNDER THAT US.
BUT WITHOUT JESUS IN THE CENTER OF US,
WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSTANTLY PULLING AWAY FROM ONE ANOTHER
RATHER THAN TOWARDS HIM.
REBECCA: AND IT'S ABOUT THAT,
HE IS ABOUT THE TWO BEING UNITED.
CHRISTY: YES.
HE DOES THAT.
AND HE UNIFIES.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S WHEN LIKE WHEN TWO ARE UNITED IN PRAYER,
THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENS, RIGHT?
CHRISTY: YES.
REBECCA: AND SO THE ENEMY'S ALWAYS TRYING TO
BRING DIVISION IN THE FAMILY.
AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THE HUSBAND AND THE WIFE ARE UNITED.
AND THE ENEMY'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE TRYING TO ATTACK THAT.
AND SO WHEN YOU, LIKE YOU SAID,
WHEN YOU WORSHIP TOGETHER, AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO
PUSH PAST THE AWKWARD.
AND THEN YOU GET USED TO IT AND YOU'RE LIKE,
IT'S NO LONGER AWKWARD.
I, YEAH.
ME AND MY HUSBAND ACTUALLY JUST HAD A TIME LIKE THAT IN THE CAR.
WE WERE DRIVING TOGETHER.
WE WERE LISTENING TO WORSHIP MUSIC BECAUSE I JUST WANTED --
WE HAD LIKE A REALLY LONG DRIVE,
AND I JUST HAD SOME STUFF WEIGHING ON ME
AND I WANTED TO PRAY ABOUT IT.
AND I REMEMBER I WAS LIKE, THIS FEELS SO WEIRD.
AND THEN I JUST STARTED PRAYING TO THE LORD
AND I STARTED CRYING, AND I JUST LET IT OUT
BECAUSE I'M REALLY IN A SEASON WHERE GOD'S LIKE,
I AM YOUR HEALER, BRING IT TO ME.
AND SO I'M JUST SUPER HONEST WITH GOD
AND I WAS LIKE I'M UPSET ABOUT THIS AND THIS.
AND I DON'T BRING IT.
IT'S LIKE DAVID.
IT'S LIKE, YOU'RE HONEST WITH GOD,
BUT THEN YOU MOVE TO THAT PLACE OF BUT I KNOW YOU'RE THE LORD
AND I TRUST YOU.
AND AS I WAS PRAYING, JONATHAN WAS COMPLETELY QUIET
AND I WAS LIKE, THIS IS SO AWKWARD.
AND THEN LITERALLY, HE LIKE LOOKS OVER AT ME AND HE GOES,
GOD JUST GAVE ME A PROPHETIC PICTURE,
AND IT WAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL LIKE ON-POINT WORD.
AND SO GOD WILL USE THE HUSBAND OR THE WIFE
TO MINISTER TO ONE ANOTHER.
CHRISTY: YEAH, BRING STRENGTH TO ONE ANOTHER.
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
AND HE WAS LIKE, I LOVE THAT.
HE'S LIKE, WE SHOULD DO THAT MORE.
AND SO IT'S LIKE YOU'VE JUST GOT TO PUSH
ABOUT THAT INITIAL AWKWARDNESS.
BUT THE ENEMY HATES THAT AND GOD LOVES THAT.
WHEN WE SPEND TIME TOGETHER, WE PRAY, WE WORSHIP.
I THINK -- ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING TO THIS,
YOU SHOULD TRY TO IMPLEMENT IT IN YOUR LIFE.
CHRISTY: IT REALLY DOES STRENGTHEN YOUR MARRIAGE
AND YOUR PARENTING, BUT ALL OF THE DECISIONS
YOU'RE HAVING TO MAKE.
YOU THINK ABOUT A THREE-FOLD CORD, IT'S UNBREAKABLE.
AND WITH JESUS IN THE MIDDLE.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT WE'VE NOTICED.
WITH PRAYER AND WORSHIP, WE WILL HAVE WORSHIP TIME TOGETHER,
WE'LL LISTEN TO TEACHING TOGETHER AT NIGHT.
LIKE WE USED TO JUST WATCH TELEVISION ALL THE TIME
AND THE LORD CHANGED THAT.
WE'LL OCCASIONALLY WATCH A SHOW THAT WE LOVE.
BUT WE REALLY SET ASIDE OUR NIGHTTIMES NOW WHEN
WHEN OUR GIRLS ARE IN BED FINALLY AND EVERYTHING'S QUIET,
WE'LL HAVE WORSHIP TIME TOGETHER AND LISTEN TO THE WORD
AND PRAY TOGETHER
OVER DIFFERENT SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE FACING.
AND I'M TELLING YOU, EVERY SINGLE TIME WE PRAY,
IT'S LIKE GOD SHOWS UP.
YOU FEEL HIS PRESENCE.
JUST LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO CHURCH AND YOU FEEL THAT PRESENCE
IMMEDIATELY COME.
IT'S LIKE HE'S IMMEDIATELY THERE WAITING,
JUST WAITING FOR US TO JUST ENTER IN.
REBECCA: AND FOR THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN,
WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER.
BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE NEED TO BE GOING ON THE OFFFENSIVE.
CHRISTY: WE REALLY DO.
WE NEED HIS STRATEGIES MORE THAN EVER.
IN OUR OWN LIVES PERSONALLY,
BUT THEN IN THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THINGS, TOO.
REBECCA: YEAH.
THE LION IS ROARING, DAUGHTERS ARE RISING.
WHAT IS THAT?
SPEAK TO THAT.
CHRISTY: I BELIEVE WE'RE IN A TIME
OF THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH STEPPING ONTO THE SCENE.
WHERE THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH INJUSTICE
AND YET WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE THE LION ROAR OVER HIS DAUGHTERS.
AND YOU THINK ABOUT, AND I THINK IT'S I PETER
WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE LION PUTTING ON OUR ARMOR
AND WEARING YOUR ARMOR AND HOW THERE'S A LION OR THE ENEMY,
HE LOOKS LIKE A LION.
AND WE'RE SEEING ALL OF THESE THINGS TAKE PLACE RIGHT NOW
WHERE IS IT WE'VE GOT THIS ENEMY LION.
HE LOOKS LIKE A LION BUT HE'S ACTUALLY --
I HAD A VISION OF HIM ONCE.
HE'S TOOTHLESS.
THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
REBECCA: OH, REALLY?
SHARE THE VISION.
CHRISTY: IT WAS JUST A VISION.
I WAS SITTING THERE IN PRAYER ONE DAY
AND I WAS HAVING THIS BATTLE AND THINGS THAT WE WERE GOING
THROUGH IN OUR OWN FAMILY, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT SHOWED ME
A VISION OF THIS LION, AND HE'S THIS RAGGEDY,
KIND OF LOOKS LIKE SCAR OFTHE LION KING .
BUT THERE WAS NO -- HE HAD NO TEETH.
AND IT WAS LIKE THE LORD SAYING TO ME,
HE HAS NO BITE.
HE CAN SPEAK THESE WORDS THAT COME AGAINST YOU,
BUT HE HAS NO BITE.
AND YET THE REAL LION, LIKE ASLAN,
IS COMING ON THE SCENE.
AND WHEN HE COMES IN AND HE ROARS,
IT'S LIKE EVERYONE JUST COMES TO A STOP.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT -- WE'RE AT LIKE LITERALLY STEPPING
INTO THAT.
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN THE MOST AMAZING DAYS TO BE LIVING.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I'M SO AFRAID OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
I'M SO EXCITED BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ABOUT TO
SEE THE LION ROAR AS WE'VE NEVER SEEN HIM ROAR BEFORE.
AND HE'S ROARING THROUGH HIS DAUGHTERS.
THERE IS AN ANOINTING THAT'S RESTING UPON HIS DAUGHTERS,
THEY'RE RISING UP IN COURAGE AND IN STRENGTH.
REBECCA: THAT WAS GOING TO LEAD TO MY NEXT POINT.
IT SAYS, COME OUT OF HIDING, DEBORAH, ARISE.
SPEAK TO THAT.
CHRISTY: I BELIEVE MANY WOMEN HAVE BEEN IN HIDING.
I WAS IN HIDING.
I NEVER EVEN WANTED A MICROPHONE.
I REMEMBER SAYING TO THE LORD,
I'LL SERVE YOU WHATEVER WAY YOU WANT.
AND I REMEMBER HIM SAYING TO ME, WELL,
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A MICROPHONE.
AND I SAID NO.
[ LAUGHING ]
I DON'T WANT THAT.
I LIKE BEING IN HIDING.
I'M ACTUALLY LIKE AN INTROVERT.
SO EVERY SINGLE TIME I STEP, I USED TO STEP OUT,
IT WAS LIKE I WAS IN FEAR AND IN TREMBLING.
AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE MANY DAUGHTERS WHO HAVE BEEN
IN HIDING OR PERHAPS THEY'VE HAD WORDS SPOKEN OVER THEM
THAT ARE THE OPPOSITE
OF WHAT THE FATHER HAS SPOKEN OVER THEM.
AND THEY'VE BEEN AFRAID.
THEY'VE HAD JEZEBEL, JUST LIKE ELIJAH,
THEY'VE BEEN HIDING IN THE CAVE.
THEY'VE NOT WANTED TO STEP INTO WHO GOD HAS CALLED THEM TO.
BUT I BELIEVE THE LORD IS DRAWING OUT HIS DAUGHTERS
OUT OF THAT CAVE AND THROWING THAT MANTLE OF DEBORAH,
THAT MANTLE OF ESTHER,
THIS MANTLE OF COURAGE AND STRENGTH OVER HIS DAUGHTERS
AND THIS HOUR TO STAND UP AND ARISE,
NOT BE AFRAID OF THE GIANTS BEFORE THEM.
RUN BEFORE GOLIATH IN FRONT OF US.
AND I BELIEVE THAT AS WE DO,
HE'LL MEET US ON THE BATTLEFIELDS.
REBECCA: HE WILL.
THAT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT WHEN THE SPIES WENT OFF TO
LOOK AT THE LAND AND HOW TIMID THE SPIES WERE LIKE,
OH, WE WERE LIKE GRASSHOPPERS IN THEIR SIGHT,
BUT CALEB AND JOSHUA,
THEY WEREN'T AFRAID BECAUSE THEY HAD THE LORD'S PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEY SAY, GOD'S ON OUR SIDE,
WE CAN TAKE THESE GIANTS.
AND WE KNOW EVENTUALLY THAT IT WAS ONLY CALEB AND JOSHUA
THAT WERE ABLE TO GO IN IN THE GENERATION UNDERNEATH THEM.
AND SO HOW YOU VIEW THINGS IN THIS TIME FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE
OR GOD'S PERSPECTIVE IS GOING TO BE PIVOTAL
TO HOW YOU, IF YOU RISE UP,
IF YOU TAKE ACTION.
AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAID,
WE HAVE TO GET INTO THE SECRET PLACE,
WE HAVE TO HEAR THE VOICE OF OUR BELOVED.
AND HE IS SAYING, RISE UP AND TAKE YOUR POSITION
AND TAKE YOUR PLACE.
AND ONE THING THAT WAS SO PROFOUND,
I REMEMBER A MINISTER SAID IN A SERMON,
AND IT STILL STICKS WITH ME TO THIS DAY,
IS HE SAYS, I DON'T WANT TO GET TO HEAVEN AND SEE
HOW POWERFUL AND GREAT GOD IS AND THINK,
WHY DIDN'T I DO MORE?
AND THAT HAS IN A WAY HAUNTED ME.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY OF SAYING IT.
BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, THAT'S STUCK WITH ME,
THAT I WANT TO MAKE MY LIFE COUNT,
AND I DON'T WANT TO GET UP TO HEAVEN AND THINK, OH,
I COULD HAVE DONE MORE.
I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN,
ALL THAT HE'S CALLED ME TO DO,
WITHIN THIS TIME AND SEASON.
AND THIS LIFE IS JUST A STEPPING STONE INTO ETERNITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS JESSE DUPLANTIS SAID THE OTHER DAY,
I THINK HE HAD BEEN OFF-CAMERA,
AND IT REALLY STRUCK ME, IS HE SAYS,
THIS LIFE IS JUST A TRAINING GROUND FOR THE NEXT.
AND WHEN I THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY,
IT JUST CHANGED MY WHOLE PERSPECTIVE, AND I'M LIKE,
WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS STUFF,
WE'RE FACING TRIALS BECAUSE GOD IS FORTIFYING US,
HE'S STRENGTHENING US, HE'S GROWING US,
AND WE DON'T NEED TO GROAN ABOUT THIS STUFF OR COMPLAIN.
WE CAN THANK GOD THAT HE'S DOING A WORK WITHIN US
AND THAT HE'S ALLOWING US TO TAKE PART IN HIS KINGDOM WORK
AND THAT WE GET TO BE APART OF THAT,
AND AS WE SOW INTO ETERNITY,
WE WILL REAP AND SEE THE REWARD OF THAT GREAT HARVEST.
AND SO I WANT TO STAND BEFORE GOD AND SAY,
I DID WHAT YOU CALLED ME TO DO,
AND I WANT TO KNOW THAT MY LIFE COUNTED
AND THAT THOSE RIPPLES WILL GO ON INTO ETERNITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LIVING FOR.
CHRISTY: LOVE THAT.
REBECCA: I THINK IT'S SO EASY TO GET CAUGHT UP
WITH WHAT'S GOING ON NOW, TO GET OVERWHELMED,
I THINK TO WANT TO BE COMFORTABLE.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE DEALT WITH.
I DON'T THINK IT'S WRONG TO WANT NICE THINGS
OR WANT A NICE LIFE FOR YOUR FAMILY.
WE'RE MOTHERS.
BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY,
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE LIVE BY FAITH,
NOT BY SIGHT, AND THAT WE'RE LIVING FOR HIM.
AND I THINK ABOUT WHAT PAUL SAYS, HE SAYS,
TO LIVE AS CHRIST, TO DIE IS GAIN.
BUT HE ALSO SAYS IN PHILIPPIANS,
I CAN'T THINK OF IT.
WHAT DOES HE SAY?
I'M LOOKING IT UP.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: PHILIPPIANS 3.
IT SAYS, NOT THAT I'VE ALREADY OBTAINED THIS
OR AM ALREADY PERFECT, BUT I PRESS ON TO MAKE IT MY OWN
BECAUSE CHRIST JESUS HAS MADE ME HIS OWN.
BROTHERS, DO NOT CONSIDER THAT I'VE MADE IT MY OWN.
BUT ONE THING I DO, FORGETTING WHAT LIES BEHIND
AND STRAINING FORWARD TO WHAT LIES AHEAD,
I PRESS ON TOWARD THE GOAL FOR THE PRIZE
OF THE UPWARD CALL OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS.
AND SO THAT'S HOW PAUL LIVED HIS LIFE.
HE LIVED IN THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND WE HAVE TO LIVE THAT WAY.
WE'VE GOT TO LIVE WITH AN ETERNAL MINDSET KNOWING THAT WE,
HE'S COMING BACK FOR US.
AND I WANT TO BE READY.
CHRISTY: ME TOO.
REBECCA: I WANT TO BE THE VIRGIN THAT HAS THE OIL.
CHRISTY: YES.
[ LAUGHING ]
CHRISTY: THAT WOULD BE SO SCARY,
NOT TO HAVE THE OIL IN THAT MOMENT.
AND I THINK IT'S LIKE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT
ETERNAL PERSPECTIVE IN MIND.
IT'S LIKE, IF GOD'S CALLING YOU TO DO SOMETHING
AND IT FEELS SO OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE,
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY HELPED ME STEP OUT IS,
JESUS, THIS IS ABOUT YOU.
IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.
I'M JUST A VESSEL.
REBECCA: EXACTLY.
CHRISTY: AND YOU NEED, YOU DON'T NEED ME BUT YET YOU CHOSE ME.
YOU CHOOSE ME TO STEP INTO THIS STORY WITH YOU
AND BE A PART OF THIS STORY, WHICH I THINK IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
HE'S CHOOSING US.
REBECCA: I KNOW.
CHRISTY: TO BE A PART OF HIS STORY THAT HE'S WRITING.
AND HIS STORY OF VICTORY AND HIS STORY OF REDEMPTION
ALL OVER THE EARTH.
AND WE ACTUALLY GET TO BE A PART OF THAT.
IT'S MINDBLOWING.
REBECCA: AND HE JUST LOVES US SO MUCH.
THAT'S WHAT I JUST FEEL RIGHT NOW.
AND IT'S LIKE, AS YOU GROW IN INTIMACY WITH HIM,
AS YOU GROW YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM,
WHEN YOU DRAW CLOSE TO HIM,
IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU GET AROUND GOD'S PRESENCE,
HE'S JUST PURE JOY, LOVE, PEACE.
AND IT'S LIKE ALL, WHATEVER MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON US
FROM THE WORLD, IT JUST MELTS OFF OF US,
AND WE'RE REMINDED LIKE, OKAY,
THIS IS WHO MY DWELLING PLACE IS, HE'S GOT ME,
AND THAT'S ALSO WHERE I'M HEADED.
AND SO IT'S LIKE, WE REALLY HAVE --
WHEN I GET IN GOD'S PRESENCE, I'M LIKE,
I REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR,
AND THAT'S WHY IT GOES BACK TO,
WE'VE GOT TO GET IN THE SECRET PLACE
AND WE'VE GOT TO SPEND MORE TIME THERE THAN WE DO ON SOCIAL MEDIA
WHERE EVERYONE'S MAKING A LOT OF NOISE.
I'M SPEAKING TO MYSELF ON THAT.
BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT TO WRAP THIS.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEBORAHS ARISING.
I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE WEAPON OF SONG SPECIFICALLY.
CHRISTY: THE WEAPON OF SONG.
I THINK IT'S INTERESTING.
DEBORAH SINGS A SONG AT THE VERY END
AFTER THEY'VE HAD THEIR BATTLE, AND THEY SING THIS SONG
AND THEY SING THE VICTORY OF THE LORD.
AND I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS GIVING US, EACH OF US,
A SONG IN THIS HOUR.
AND THAT SONG MAY NOT BE, WELL, FOR ME,
IT'S NOT A PHYSICAL SONG, BUT IT'S A SONG OF HIS GLORY
AND HIS VICTORY OVER MY FAMILY,
OVER MY CHILDREN, OVER THE NATION I'M LIVING IN.
I PRAY OVER AMERICA AND AUSTRALIA.
I BELIEVE HE'S GIVING US A SONG.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE READ,
I'M JUST REMINDED REALLY QUICKLY OF C.S. LEWIS,
AND THE BEGINNING OF NARNIA,
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE READ THE BEGINNING
CHAPTERS AT ALL, BUT THE LION, ASLAN, COMES IN,
AND HE SINGS A SONG, AND IT'S THE SONG THAT RELEASES CREATION.
AND THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT OUR SONGS I BELIEVE IN THIS HOUR
OF WHAT WE'RE SINGING TO THE LORD,
OF WHAT WE'RE THANKING HIM FOR,
PRAISE IS THE GATEWAY TO HIS, SORRY, HIS THRONE ROOM.
IT'S LITERALLY GOING INTO HIS THRONE ROOM
AND TAKING WHAT WE NEED FOR THIS MOMENT, FOR THIS HOUR.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS A WEAPON,
IT IS AN ARSENAL FOR US IN THIS HOUR TO BE ABLE TO
RELEASE THE SONG OF JESUS INTO THE EARTH.
AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
JUST SPEAKING HIM.
REVELATION 12:11, THEY OVERCAME HIM BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB
AND THE WORD.
THE SONG OF THEIR TESTIMONY.
REBECCA: I LOVE THAT.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING
THAT THERE IS A SONG THAT YOU JUST NEED TO RELEASE.
CHRISTY: YES.
REBECCA: AND JUST LEAN INTO THAT AND DON'T BE AFRAID OF THAT.
AND LIKE CHRISTY SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE BEST SINGER.
WHEN I'M PRAISING THE LORD, IT CAN GO OFF-KEY.
[ LAUGHING ]
CHRISTY: BUT IT'S BEAUTIFUL TO HIM.
REBECCA: IT IS.
CHRISTY: AND IT'S WARFARE.
IT'S ACTUALLY WARFARE.
YOU THINK ABOUT DAVID, HE WARFARED EVERYTHING,
EVEN WITH SOIL, HE WAS SINGING
AND HE WAS RELEASING A SONG OF WARFARE THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME
HE SANG, IT LITERALLY CALMED SOIL.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO CALM
THE SITUATIONS AROUND US THROUGH THE SONG,
THROUGH THE SONG OF THE LORD,
RELEASING HIS SONGS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING OR WATCHING,
JUST RELEASE THAT SONG RIGHT NOW AND DON'T BE AFRAID.
YOU FEEL THAT UTTERANCE IN YOUR SPIRIT BUT JUST LET
THAT SONG COME OUT.
AND YOU MIGHT EVEN SING IN THE SPIRIT.
HOWEVER THE SPIRIT IS LEADING YOU.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING RIGHT NOW,
YOU NEED TO RELEASE THAT SONG RIGHT NOW
IN THIS MOMENT.
DON'T BE AFRAID OF WHAT YOU MIGHT SOUND LIKE OR THINK LIKE.
DON'T LET THE FEAR KEEP YOU FROM THAT BREAKTHROUGH,
BECAUSE SOMETHING POWERFUL HAPPENS
WHEN YOU SING BEFORE THE LORD
AND WHEN YOU DANCE BEFORE THE LORD.
AND SO JUST LET THAT RELEASE RIGHT NOW.
CHRISTY, COULD YOU JUST PRAY OVER THE DEBORAHS
WHO ARE LISTENING?
CHRISTY: YES.
FATHER, WE JUST RELEASE YOUR COURAGE OVER EVERY DAUGHTER
LISTENING.
WHETHER YOU'RE A MOTHER OR A GRANDMOTHER
OR YOU'RE MAYBE NOT EVEN A MOTHER,
BUT THE LORD IS RELEASING OVER YOU TODAY, DAUGHTER,
THE MANTLE OF DEBORAH.
AND IT IS THIS MANTLE TO STEP INTO HIS COURAGE,
HIS MIGHT, AND HIS STRENGTH, NOT BY MIGHT,
NOT BY POWER, BUT HIS SPIRIT.
AND I BELIEVE THE LORD IS RELEASING AND EVEN THROWING
THIS MANTLE UPON YOU IN THIS MOMENT.
I FEEL LIKE MANY OF YOU ARE GOING TO FEEL A WEIGHTY GLORY
COME UPON YOU.
AND I JUST WANT YOU TO RECEIVE THAT
BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOING TO LEAD YOU IN THAT.
HE'S GOING TO LEAD YOU WITH WHAT TO SAY,
WHAT TO SPEAK, AND HOW TO SPEAK IT IN THIS MOMENT
AND IN THIS HOUR WHERE WE ARE NEEDING VOICES TO ARISE.
AND THE LORD IS RELEASING UPON YOU THIS COURAGE TO STEP OUT,
DAUGHTER.
I FEEL LIKE MANY HAVE BEEN IN FEAR AND IN TREMBLING
OVER WHAT PEOPLE WILL THINK,
AND THE LORD IS SAYING TO YOU,
DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT THAT.
YOU NEED TO STEP INTO THAT COURAGE,
STEP INTO IT BY FAITH BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MEET YOU THERE.
AND I ALSO FEEL LIKE THERE ARE MANY DAUGHTERS RIGHT NOW
WATCHING WHO HAVE BEEN IN DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY,
AND I BELIEVE THAT AS YOU'RE RECEIVING THIS MANTLE,
THAT DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY IS LEAVING.
IT IS THE SONG OF THE LORD.
BECAUSE HIS VOICE IS RESTING UPON YOU.
HIS COURAGE IS RESTING UPON YOU.
AND I SEE DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY AND SUICIDAL THOUGHTS
BREAKING OFF YOU, DAUGHTER.
YOU ARE ANOINTED FOR THIS MOMENT FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS.
IN JESUS' MIGHTY NAME, AMEN.
REBECCA: AMEN.
CHRISTY: AMEN.
REBECCA: SO GOOD.
CHRISTY: AMEN.
REBECCA: CHRISTY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THE DEBORAH MANTLE .
FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GET THIS,
WHERE DO THEY GET IT?
CHRISTY: THEY CAN GO ON AMAZON OR ON OUR WEBSITE.
IT'S NATEANDCHRISTY.CO.
REBECCA: AND FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE A PART OF REMNANT
OR THE HIVES?
CHRISTY: YOU CAN LITERALLY GO TO
NATEANDCHRISTY.CO, AND IT'S ALL THERE.
REBECCA: OKAY, PERFECT.
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
CHRISTY: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
REBECCA: YOU ARE A BLESSING.
YOUR WHOLE FAMILY.
WE JUST LOVE YOU GUYS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
CHRISTY: LIKEWISE.
REBECCA: AND COME BACK.
CHRISTY: I WILL.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CHRISTY: THANK YOU.