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REBECCA LAMB WEISS:
HEY, GUYS.

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WELCOME TO THE SHOW.


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SEASON 2 OF THE
REBECCA WEISS PODCAST.

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I'M REALLY EXCITED TODAY.


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THIS GUEST IS ONE
OF MY FAVORITES.

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AND I WANT TO GIVE SOME
BACKGROUND FOR THOSE OF YOU

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WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.

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HE'S SUPER FUNNY
AND DOWN TO EARTH,

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BUT ONE OF THE THINGS
I LOVE ABOUT HIM IS

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HE'S LIVED AN AMAZING
LIFE FOR THE LORD,

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AND WHEN I GET AROUND HIM
AND I HEAR HIS STORIES,

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I GET INSPIRED.


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AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO
HEAR THESE STORIES, TOO,

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BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO
STIR UP YOUR FAITH,

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IT'S GOING TO MAKE YOU
MORE HUNGRY FOR THE LORD.

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AND THE OTHER THING I LOVE
IS THE WAY I DESCRIBE THIS GUEST

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TO PEOPLE IS I SAY, IT'S
JUST SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

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AND IT'S JUST LIKE, I SAY,
HE HAS ONE FOOT ON EARTH

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AND ONE FOOT IN HEAVEN.


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IT'S JUST A COOL
THING TO SEE.

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AND SO WELCOME
TO THE SHOW,

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EVANGELIST AND MINISTER
JESSE DUPLANTIS.

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JESSE DUPLANTIS:
WELL, THANK YOU.

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IT'S AN HOUR TO BE HERE.


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AND HELLO, EVERYBODY.


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[ LAUGHING ]


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REBECCA: SO,
PASTOR JESSE...

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JESSE: JUST
CALL ME JESSE.

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REBECCA: JUST
CALL YOU JESSE?

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JESSE: THAT'S WHAT
JESUS CALLED ME.

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I'VE NEVER CALLED
HIM REVEREND CHRIST.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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JESSE: HE CALLS ME
JESUS -- I CALL HIM JEEZY,

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HE CALLS ME JESSE,
THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH.

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REBECCA: SEE,
THIS IS WHAT I LOVE,

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IS THE DOWN TO EARTH.


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AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
LISTENING, GIVE SOME BACKGROUND.

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I CAN HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF
THAT NEW ORLEANS IN YOU.

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JESSE: YES.


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REBECCA: BUT
GIVE US YOUR STORY.

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JESSE: WELL, I WAS
NOT A CHURCH PERSON.

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I WAS NOT RELIGIOUS IN
ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

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CHRISTENED AND CONFIRMED
A CATHOLIC BOY.

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I'M FROM THE CITY OF
NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA.

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I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME.


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IF YOU'RE FROM
NEW ORLEANS,

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YOU'VE GOT TO BE CATHOLIC
AT LEAST ONCE IN YOUR LIFE

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BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE.


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WE DON'T EVEN
HAVE COUNTIES.

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WE HAVE PARISHES.


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IT'S THE ONLY STATE IN THE
UNITED STATES THAT HAS PARISHES.

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AND I WENT TO CHURCH BUT I
NEVER GOT ANYTHING OUT OF IT.

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I REMEMBER BEFORE
I GOT SAVED,

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KATHY WOULD TELL
MY WIFE, WOULD SAY,

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WHY DON'T YOU
COME TO CHURCH?

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I SAID, I'VE BEEN THERE.


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I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.


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WHAT I NEEDED WAS TO SEE
IF I COULD COME TO JESUS,

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THEN WHEN I
CAME TO CHURCH,

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I WOULD UNDERSTAND IT.


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SO I WAS NOT RAISED WHAT
I CALL RELIGIOUSLY IN ANY WAY,

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SHAPE, OR FORM.


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AND I ONLY KNOW
TWO PRAYERS THEN.

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THAT WAS THE HAIL MARY PRAYER
AND THE OUR FATHER PRAYER,

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WHICH IS WHAT YOU USE FOR
PENANCE AND CONFESSION

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WHEN YOU'RE IN THERE.


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ANYWAY, AND I BECAME
A ROCK MUSICIAN.

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I PLAYED ON THE
STREETS AS A KID.

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YOU HAD STREET MUSICIANS,
AND I PLAYED IN STRIP JOINTS.

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NOW, THIS IS 10, 11 YEARS OLD
BECAUSE YOU PAY PEOPLE MONEY,

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THE COPS
LOOK THE OTHER WAY.

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THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.


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AND I WAS RAISED ON THE
STREETS OF NEW ORLEANS.

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MOM AND THEM HAD A
PLACE ON CANAL STREET,

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SO I WOULD SNEAK OUT OF THE
HOUSE AND I WOULD GO DOWN THERE

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AND PLAY.


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AND, MAN, I'LL NEVER FORGET
WHEN THEY THREW ME A $20 BILL.

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NOW, REBECCA, IN 1959,
TWENTY BUCKS WAS A LOT OF MONEY.

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AND I THOUGHT, I'M GOING
TO DO THIS FOR A LIVING.

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BUT THE PROBLEM THAT COMES
WITH THAT KIND OF STUFF IS

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ALL THE DRUGS, ALL THE
SIN, ALL THE BOOZE,

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EVERY IMMORAL THING
THAT YOU CAN THINK OF.

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BECAUSE I DID
NOT KNOW JESUS.

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BUT I'VE NEVER THOUGHT
OF JESUS AS A PERSON.

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I THOUGHT OF GOD
AS AN INSTITUTION.

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THE HOLY ROMAN
CATHOLIC CHURCH.

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THEN I REALIZED
SOMETHING ABOUT JESUS,

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AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO
HEAR THIS STATEMENT,

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HE'S NOT RELIGIOUS.


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YOU SEE, HE'S A PERSON.


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AND YOU CAN MEET HIM TODAY AND
TO UNDERSTAND WHO HE REALLY IS.

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THIS IS NOT ABOUT
BEING CHURCHY.

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THIS IS ABOUT
RELATIONSHIP.

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I WENT FROM RELIGION
TO RELATIONSHIP TO FELLOWSHIP.

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I WANT THIS: HELLO, JESUS.


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HI, JESSE.


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I LIKE THAT.


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I LIKE CALLING
YOU REBECCA.

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I COULD CALL YOU
SISTER REBECCA.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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JESSE:
MOST HOLY REBECCA.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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JESSE: I'LL JUST
CALL YOU REBECCA.

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YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?


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BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR NAME.


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SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.


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THAT'S MY BACKGROUND.


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THEN I GOT BORN AGAIN IN 1974
IN BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS.

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I WAS DOING A ROCK SHOW,
AND MY WIFE COMES UP TO ME,

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AND I WAS ABOUT READY
TO GO DOWN TO DO THE SHOW,

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AND KATHY SAYS, JESSE,
BILLY GRAHAM'S ON TELEVISION.

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I SAID, WHAT'S THAT
GOT TO DO WITH ME?

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NOW, I'M TELLING YOU WHAT, YOU
TALK ABOUT THE CHIEF OF SINNERS,

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I WAS RAISED
WITH THE LA COSA NOSTRA,

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THAT'S THE MAFIA, ON THE
STREETS OF NEW ORLEANS.

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I MADE, OH, I CAN'T SAY
STUFF ON THIS PODCAST

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BECAUSE I WOULD GET IN
TROUBLE FOR SAYING THINGS.

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THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS
HADN'T RUN OUT.

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BUT WHEN I GOT BORN AGAIN, IT
WAS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING

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THINGS EVER
HAPPENED TO ME IN MY LIFE.

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BUT IT WASN'T RELIGIOUS.


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SEE, RELIGION IS
VERY IMPERSONAL.

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CHRIST IS VERY PERSONAL.


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WHEN I GOT BORN AGAIN,
IT WAS PERSONAL,

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IT WAS ME AND HIM.


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AND HE CHANGED MY LIFE.


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YOU SEE, NOW, YOU DON'T HEAR
PEOPLE TALK ABOUT LIKE THAT

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EXCEPT PEOPLE MY AGE.


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WHAT DO YOU MEAN CHURCH?


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NO, NO.


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I'M TALKING ABOUT,
HELLO, JESUS.

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HI, JESSE.


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I CAN TALK TO YOU, REBECCA,
ON THE PHONE, IT'S NICE.

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BUT WHEN I TALK TO YOU IN
PERSON, IT'S MUCH BETTER.

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SEE, BECAUSE I CAN SEE
YOU AND YOU CAN SEE ME.

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SO I WOULD TELL EVERYBODY
TODAY, THE YOUNGER PEOPLE,

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IF YOU WANT TO BE A SUCCESS
GOING SOMEWHERE TO SUCCEED,

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IF YOU WANT WHAT YOU NEVER
THOUGHT YOU COULD ACHIEVE,

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IF YOU'LL PUT
JESUS FIRST IN YOUR LIFE,

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ALL THAT WILL COME.


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LOCK, STOCK, AND BARREL.


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AND MORE THAN
YOU CAN THINK.

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REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.

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SO HERE YOU ARE, YOU'RE A
MUSICIAN, YOU GET SAVED.

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WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?


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JESSE: WELL, I WAS GOING TO
STAY IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS,

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I THOUGHT.


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BUT, REBECCA, I'D NEVER
SEEN SIN IN MY LIFE.

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I NEVER THOUGHT OF SIN.


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I JUST THOUGHT OF FUN, PARTY,
PARTAY, JUST GO, YOU KNOW.

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I TOOK TRIPS ON DRUGS, I TOOK
TRIPS AND NEVER LEFT MY HOUSE.

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DOO, JUST CRAZY.


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BUT WHEN I GOT BORN AGAIN
AND WHEN I SAW SIN,

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I SAID, I CAN'T
DO THIS NO MORE.

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NOT THAT I DIDN'T
LIKE THE PEOPLE.

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IT HAD NOTHING
TO DO WITH THAT.

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I WAS CHANGED.


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I STILL LOVE MUSIC, I
CAN PLAY 11 INSTRUMENTS.

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I CAN DO ALL THAT
KIND OF STUFF.

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IN FACT, I DID
THAT ONE TIME

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[ CHUCKLES ]


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AT A GOSPEL CONVENTION.


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SOME OF THEM WERE 13, 14,
AND 17, THE AGE GROUP,

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AND THEY SAID,
PASTOR JESSE,

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COULD YOU PLAY SOME ROCK?


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I SAID, OKAY.


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I'M GOING TO DO
THIS ONE TIME.

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AND I SAID, GIVE
ME THAT GUITAR.

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AND, MAN, I DID A WHOLE
LOT OF LOVE, DUH, DUH,

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DUH, DUH, DUH, DUH.


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ZZ TOP, DUN-DUN DUN DUN
DUN DUN DUN-DUN DUN.

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AND I MEAN, AND THEM KIDS
ARE GOING, GOOD GOD,

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LOOK AT THIS GUY.


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I SAID, BUT I DID NOT KNOW
THEY HAD ME HOOKED UP

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INTO THE
FOUNDER'S HOTEL ROOM.

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AND WHEN I GOT TO THE CONVENTION
THAT NIGHT, HE SAID, WHOO.

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I SAID, OH, DID I
DO SOMETHING WRONG?

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HE SAID, NO, I DIDN'T
REALIZE YOU COULD DO THAT.

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BUT IT MADE THE TEENAGERS
SAY, THIS MAN'S REAL.

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AND LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING ABOUT MUSIC.

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IT'S ALL GOOD.


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IT'S JUST THAT SATAN
PERVERTS IT OR MAKES IT BAD.

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THINKING ABOUT HAVING
AN ACTING CAREER.

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THAT WOULD PROBABLY
BE A LOT OF FUN,

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TO BE SOMEBODY THAT
YOU COULD IMITATE.

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BUT THEN PEOPLE
PERVERT IT.

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YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?


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AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.


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BUT MY GOD, YOU CAN HAVE
MORE FUN KNOWING JESUS CHRIST

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THAN YOU'LL EVER KNOW
IN ANYTHING ELSE YOU DO.

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WELL, I'M TELLING YOU
SOMETHING ABOUT JESUS,

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BUT ALL THIS STUFF,
HE'LL LEAVE -- NOW,

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I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING THAT
GOING TO MAKE SOMEBODY MAD --

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HE'LL EVEN
PROTECT YOU FROM THE CHURCH.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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BECAUSE I'M GOING
TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

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GOD IS NOT AS HARD ON PEOPLE
AS PEOPLE ARE ON PEOPLE.

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REBECCA:
THAT'S SO TRUE.

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JESSE: AND SOME OF THE MEANEST
PEOPLE I EVER MET IN MY LIFE

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ARE CHURCH PEOPLE.


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AND I WISH I WOULDN'T
HAVE TO SAY THAT, BUT IT'S TRUE.

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WHY?


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WHY CAN'T WE GET ALONG?


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PEOPLE WILL SAY,
YOU LOVE EVERYBODY.

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YEAH.


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I'VE EVEN BEEN CRITICIZED.


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YOU'VE GOT TOO MUCH MERCY.


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OH, YOU WANT ME TO GO OUT
AND KILL SOMEBODY?

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THAT WHAT YOU
WANT ME TO DO?

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YOU DON'T SEE COLOR.


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NO, I DON'T SEE NO COLOR,
NATIONALITY, OR CREED.

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I DON'T CARE.


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YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING.


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THAT'S ALL I'M
SATISFIED WITH.

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IT DON'T MAKE NO
DIFFERENCE TO ME.

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I DON'T THINK OF COLOR IN
ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

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AND JUST BECAUSE
YOU'VE GOT MONEY,

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YOU'RE NOT BETTER THAN
SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T.

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THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE
THAT HAVE THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE.

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LET ME BLESS YOU
WITH MY PRESENCE.

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WELL, YOU COULD HAVE
STAYED HOME, FOOL.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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I SAID, I DON'T
NEED YOUR PRESENCE.

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YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
TRYING TO SAY?

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I JUST WANT TO BE ME.


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YOU KNOW THAT SONG,
I'VE GOT TO BE ME.

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I JUST WANT TO BE ME.


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AND YOU KNOW WHAT,
THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS.

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HE JUST WANTS
YOU TO BE YOU.

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I WISH THE CHURCH
WOULD BE LIKE GOD IS.

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BUT SAD TO SAY,
THEY'RE NOT.

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BUT THEY'RE GOING
TO GET THERE.

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I'M NOT ANTI-CHURCH.


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YOU JUST KEEP PUSHING AND IT'LL
HAPPEN AND IT'LL COME TO PASS.

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REBECCA: WELL, IT'S
AN ATTACK OF THE ENEMY,

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AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP
WASTING OUR TIME

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BEING BACKSEAT DRIVERS
AND JUST WASTING OUR TIME

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CRITICIZING PEOPLE.


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IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMEONE,
WHY DON'T YOU JUST PRAY

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FOR THAT PERSON?


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JESSE: THAT
MAKES SENSE TO ME.

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REBECCA: YOU'LL DO
A LOT MORE HELP THERE

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THAN SPEAKING DEATH
OVER SOMEONE.

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JESSE: YOU KNOW
WHAT MY MOTHER TOLD ME,

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SHE'S IN HEAVEN,
I USED TO SAY, AW,

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THAT CHURCH IS
FULL OF HYPOCRITES.

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AND YOU KNOW WHAT
MY MAMA SAID?

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WELL, YOU GOT TO BE
SMALLER THAN A HYPOCRITE

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TO HIDE BEHIND ONE.


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AND I THOUGHT, I AIN'T
SAYING THAT NO MORE.

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[ LAUGHING ]


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JUST THAT TRUE.


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YEAH.


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WE WASTE SO MUCH
GOOD TIME CRITICIZING

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AND TRYING TO HURT SOMEONE
WHEN WE CAN BE TOUCHING SOMEBODY

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AND LIFTING SOMEBODY UP.


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IT'S NOT THAT HARD.


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IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SIMPLE.


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THAT'S WHY CHILDREN
RAN TOWARDS JESUS.

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THAT MADE THE
DISCIPLES A LITTLE MAD,

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GET THESE STINKING
KIDS OUT OF HERE.

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HE SAID, PERMIT THE
CHILDREN TO COME UNTO ME

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FOR SUCH IS
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

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LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.


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YOU DON'T KNOW
JESUS, YOU MEET HIM,

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YOU'RE GOING TO
LIKE HIM A LOT.

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AND HE'S GOING TO
LOVE YOU A LOT.

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AND THAT'S THE TRUTH.


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REBECCA: SEE, THAT'S WHAT
I LOVE ABOUT YOU IS YOU ALWAYS,

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YOU BRING
IT BACK TO JESUS.

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AND IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR
PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.

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AND YOU JUST SHOW SOMEONE
YOU DON'T GOT TO BE RELIGIOUS.

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BE RELIGIOUS,
DON'T BE IT AT ALL.

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JUST BE YOURSELF,
BE CLOSE TO HIM,

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AND SEE WHERE
HE'LL TAKE YOU.

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JESSE: THAT'S IT.


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IT'S SO SIMPLE.


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WE'RE ON A JOURNEY, WE DO HAVE
A DESTINATION AND A DESTINY.

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THAT'S A FACT.


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BUT WE SHOULD BE
ENJOYING THE JOURNEY.

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I FIND THAT A LOT
OF CHRISTIANS,

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THEY'RE NOT ENJOYING
THE JOURNEY.

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WELL, MAYBE, REBECCA,
THEY'RE NOT SAVED.

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THEY MAY BE
RELIGIOUSLY BRAINWASHED,

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BUT THEY DON'T
KNOW THE LORD.

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SOME PEOPLE
KNOW ABOUT GOD,

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BUT THEY DON'T KNOW GOD.


00:10:01.867 --> 00:10:04.266
YOU SEE, I HAVE MET YOU,
I HAVE SPENT TIME WITH YOU

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AND YOUR HUSBAND.


00:10:05.167 --> 00:10:06.300
WE'VE DONE THINGS
IN THE PAST.

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THAT'S HOW I KNOW YOU.


00:10:08.233 --> 00:10:09.767
BUT SOME PEOPLE SAY,
I KNOW JESSE DUPLANTIS.

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NO, YOU DON'T.


00:10:10.666 --> 00:10:12.000
YOU KNOW ABOUT ME.


00:10:12.100 --> 00:10:14.467
NOW, IF YOU GO TO DINNER WITH ME
OR YOU DO AN INTERVIEW WITH ME

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OR YOU COME TO
ONE OF MY MEETINGS,

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THEN YOU'LL
BEGIN TO KNOW ME.

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IT'S CALLED FELLOWSHIP.


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REMEMBER I SAID, I WENT FROM
RELIGION TO RELATIONSHIP

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TO FELLOWSHIP.


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I WANT A GOD I
CAN TALK TO HIM.

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JUST THAT SIMPLE.


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NOW, WE CALL
THIS A PODCAST.

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WE'RE DOING THIS TODAY.


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YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE
DOING THIS FOR ETERNITY?

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BECAUSE THERE'S MULTIPLE
UNIVERSES OUT THERE.

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WHAT WORLD ARE
WE GOING TO DO?

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MAN, THIS IS
GOING TO BE GREAT.

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SO YOU LEARN THIS TECHNIQUE
NOT JUST FOR THIS LIFETIME.

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YOU'RE GOING TO
BE DOING THIS,

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WHO KNOWS WHO YOU'RE
GOING TO BE TALKING TO.

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THINK ABOUT THAT.


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REBECCA: OH.


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JESSE: WE HAVE SO
MUCH TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

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REBECCA: I WAS THINKING
ABOUT THAT LAST NIGHT,

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AND I WAS LIKE, WHY DO WE GET SO
CAUGHT UP WITH THE SMALL THINGS

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OF THIS LIFE WHEN THERE'S
A WHOLE GLORIOUS LIFE

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AHEAD OF US?


00:11:02.267 --> 00:11:04.800
AND I THINK IT, REALLY, THAT'S
ALSO AN ATTACK OF THE ENEMY,

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THAT WE GET
BOGGED DOWN AND FOCUSED ON STUFF

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THAT WE SHOULDN'T
BE WORRIED ABOUT.

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WE JUST NEED TO BE
TRUSTING GOD

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AND WE NEED TO BE LOOKING
TOWARDS HIM AND THE FUTURE,

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LONGING FOR HIS APPEARING.


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JESSE: THAT'S RIGHT.


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REBECCA: THIS LIFE IS JUST TO
PREPARE FOR HIS COMING BACK.

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JESSE: AS I GET OLDER, I FINALLY
UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURE,

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LIFE IS BUT A VAPOR.


00:11:22.634 --> 00:11:25.367
IT SEEMED LIKE
TEN YEARS AGO I WAS 18.

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WELL, THAT'S NOT TRUE.


00:11:27.500 --> 00:11:29.666
BUT IT SEEMED LIKE IT.


00:11:29.766 --> 00:11:32.233
BECAUSE I'M HEALTHY, SO I
STILL CAN DO WHAT I WANT TO DO.

00:11:32.333 --> 00:11:33.300
BUT I'VE LEARNED
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

00:11:33.400 --> 00:11:37.767
WORRY AND FAITH ARE
INCOMPATIBLE, YOU SEE.

00:11:37.867 --> 00:11:41.333
IT'S LIKE AN OXYMORON,
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK, YOU SEE.

00:11:41.433 --> 00:11:44.500
SO I'VE DECIDED,
HIS WILL BE DONE WHERE?

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ON EARTH AS IT
IS IN HEAVEN.

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OR IN EARTH AS
IT IS IN HEAVEN.

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SO WHY CAN'T I LIVE HERE LIKE AS
IF I WOULD BE LIVING IN HEAVEN?

00:11:52.800 --> 00:11:53.900
WELL, LET'S SAY
HOW YOU'D DO THAT.

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YOU DON'T SWEAT
THE SMALL STUFF.

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BECAUSE GOD'S GOING TO TAKE YOU
PLACES YOU NEVER THOUGHT.

00:12:00.267 --> 00:12:02.533
NOT ONLY HERE
IN THIS LIFE,

00:12:02.633 --> 00:12:04.666
BUT IN THE LIFE TO COME.


00:12:04.766 --> 00:12:06.067
AND IT JUST WORKS.


00:12:06.167 --> 00:12:08.667
NOT SOME OF THE TIME,
BUT ALL THE TIME.

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REBECCA: SEE, I'M
JUST RECEIVING THAT,

00:12:10.067 --> 00:12:12.600
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST
STARTING TO REALLY LEARN THAT.

00:12:12.700 --> 00:12:14.867
TO REALLY TRUST GOD.


00:12:14.967 --> 00:12:16.866
I'VE SPENT WAY TOO MUCH
OF MY TIME WORRYING

00:12:16.966 --> 00:12:19.034
ABOUT STUPID STUFF,
JUST BEING HONEST,

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AND IT WILL SUCK ALL THE
JOY RIGHT OUT OF YOUR LIFE.

00:12:21.467 --> 00:12:22.533
JESSE: OH, YEAH.


00:12:22.633 --> 00:12:24.434
NO, AND KNOW SOMETHING
ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN.

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HE AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT
NOTHING BECAUSE MAMA AND DADDY

00:12:26.533 --> 00:12:27.833
ARE GOING TO TAKE
CARE OF THAT, RIGHT?

00:12:27.933 --> 00:12:29.733
WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT,
WE'RE GOD'S CHILDREN.

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WE'RE NOT GOD'S ADULTS.


00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:33.300
WE'RE GOD'S CHILDREN.


00:12:33.400 --> 00:12:35.400
NOW, WE GROW TO THE FULLNESS
OF THE STATURE OF CHRIST,

00:12:35.500 --> 00:12:36.967
BUT WE'RE
STILL GOD'S CHILDREN.

00:12:37.067 --> 00:12:38.867
MY DAUGHTER'S
51 YEARS OLD,

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BUT SHE'S STILL
MY LITTLE GIRL.

00:12:41.067 --> 00:12:42.334
DO YOU SEE MY POINT?


00:12:42.434 --> 00:12:45.934
SO I THOUGHT, MY GOD, AGE DON'T
HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

00:12:46.034 --> 00:12:48.567
SO I JUST LET
MY LIGHT SHINE.

00:12:48.667 --> 00:12:52.866
AND GOD AS A FATHER
AND HIS FAMILY.

00:12:52.966 --> 00:12:55.500
IF YOU WANT TO
UNDERSTAND GOD,

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DO A RESEARCH ON FAMILY,
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A FAMILY.

00:13:00.900 --> 00:13:02.333
AND IT'S JUST
SUCH A BLESSING.

00:13:02.433 --> 00:13:04.034
REBECCA: WELL, I WANT
TO TALK ABOUT HEAVEN,

00:13:04.134 --> 00:13:05.666
BUT I ALSO WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THE MAFIA.

00:13:05.766 --> 00:13:06.634
JESSE: OKAY.


00:13:06.734 --> 00:13:08.567
REBECCA: TWO VERY
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

00:13:08.667 --> 00:13:09.333
JESSE: OH, YEAH,
NIGHT AND DAY.

00:13:09.433 --> 00:13:10.467
[ LAUGHING ]


00:13:10.567 --> 00:13:12.733
REBECCA: BUT YOU TOLD
ME THIS REALLY COOL STORY

00:13:12.833 --> 00:13:16.500
ABOUT YOU WERE PREACHING,
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WERE AT,

00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:17.434
I WANT
TO SAY PITTSBURGH,

00:13:17.534 --> 00:13:18.600
I COULD BE
COMPLETELY WRONG,

00:13:18.700 --> 00:13:20.400
AND THEY TRIED
TO SHUT YOU DOWN.

00:13:20.500 --> 00:13:22.466
JESSE: OH, I'VE HAD A LOT OF
CHURCHES TRY TO SHUT ME DOWN.

00:13:22.566 --> 00:13:24.500
REBECCA: AND THE MAFIA
ACTUALLY HELPED YOU...

00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:25.067
JESSE: YES.


00:13:25.167 --> 00:13:26.233
WHAT HAPPENED WAS...


00:13:26.333 --> 00:13:27.300
REBECCA: OKAY, SO JUST YOU
START FROM THE BEGINNING,

00:13:27.400 --> 00:13:28.467
YOU GIVE THE CONTEXT.


00:13:28.567 --> 00:13:29.700
JESSE: ME AND
JERRY SAVELLE,

00:13:29.800 --> 00:13:31.067
WE WERE USED TO DO
WHAT WE WOULD CALL

00:13:31.167 --> 00:13:33.800
CATCH THE SPIRIT
OF REVIVAL MEETINGS.

00:13:33.900 --> 00:13:36.800
SO WE WENT TO
PHILADELPHIA.

00:13:36.900 --> 00:13:38.033
OKAY.


00:13:38.133 --> 00:13:39.966
WELL, WHEN YOU
GO TO PHILADELPHIA

00:13:40.066 --> 00:13:43.034
AND YOU GO TO NEW YORK,
THE UNIONS ARE VERY STRONG.

00:13:43.134 --> 00:13:45.533
AND A LOT OF THE UNIONS
ARE CONTROLLED BY THE MAFIA,

00:13:45.633 --> 00:13:47.433
SOME OF THEM,
MAYBE NOT AS MUCH TODAY,

00:13:47.533 --> 00:13:49.133
BUT THIS IS MANY,
MANY YEARS AGO.

00:13:49.233 --> 00:13:50.333
ALL RIGHT.


00:13:50.433 --> 00:13:55.300
WELL, BY MY ASSOCIATION,
I HAVE A LOT OF GREAT FRIENDS

00:13:55.400 --> 00:13:58.500
THAT TOLD ME, I DIE WITH YOU,
YOU UNDERSTAND?

00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:00.467
BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTAND
THE LIFESTYLE.

00:14:00.567 --> 00:14:02.000
I WAS RAISED THAT WAY.


00:14:02.100 --> 00:14:03.100
YES, THAT'S NOT
WHAT I'M SAYING.

00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.166
SO ANYWAY, WE GO
TO PHILADELPHIA,

00:14:05.266 --> 00:14:06.900
AND WE WERE LATE.


00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.300
THERE WAS ALREADY TWO THOUSAND
PEOPLE STANDING IN LINE

00:14:09.400 --> 00:14:12.600
TO GET INTO THIS BIG
PHILADELPHIA CONVENTION CENTER.

00:14:12.700 --> 00:14:15.867
SO WHAT WE DID, TO MAKE
A LONG STORY SHORT,

00:14:15.967 --> 00:14:19.200
WHAT WE DID WAS
WE WALKED UP.

00:14:19.300 --> 00:14:21.000
IF WE COULD HAVE
SET UP THE EQUIPMENT,

00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:23.700
WE COULD SET IT UP A LOT QUICKER
THAN THE UNION PEOPLE

00:14:23.800 --> 00:14:27.100
BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO
TELL THE UNION WHAT TO DO.

00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.634
SO WE GOT ON THE STAGE
AND WE ASKED THE MAN --

00:14:30.734 --> 00:14:34.166
WE WERE VERY POLITE --
IF YOU DON'T MIND,

00:14:34.266 --> 00:14:35.434
COULD WE SET UP
THE EQUIPMENT?

00:14:35.534 --> 00:14:37.767
WE'LL PAY YOU LIKE AS IF
YOU WERE SETTING IT UP.

00:14:37.867 --> 00:14:39.433
YOUR PRICES, WHATEVER.


00:14:39.533 --> 00:14:40.933
AND HE SAYS,
SHUT THE MM UP,

00:14:41.033 --> 00:14:41.867
AND ALL THIS
KIND OF STUFF.

00:14:41.967 --> 00:14:43.734
NO, BUDDY, GET
OFF THE STAGE!

00:14:43.834 --> 00:14:46.300
THERE'S A UNION HERE,
YOU UNDERSTAND ME?

00:14:46.400 --> 00:14:49.233
AND I THOUGHT, JERRY LOOKS
AT ME AND HE SAID, MAN,

00:14:49.333 --> 00:14:50.300
WE'RE GOING TO BE LATE.


00:14:50.433 --> 00:14:52.366
BECAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE
TO SET UP THIS EQUIPMENT.

00:14:52.466 --> 00:14:56.800
AND LIGHTS AND VIDEO AND
AUDIO, AND YOU NAME IT, MAN.

00:14:56.900 --> 00:14:58.333
AND I'M THINKING, OH, GOD.


00:14:58.433 --> 00:15:00.633
NOW, I HAVE A NUMBER.


00:15:00.733 --> 00:15:01.567
[ CHUCKLES ]


00:15:01.667 --> 00:15:03.766
THAT WAS GIVEN TO
ME A LONG TIME AGO.

00:15:03.866 --> 00:15:05.600
IF YOU EVER
HAVE A PROBLEM,

00:15:05.700 --> 00:15:06.933
YOU CALL THIS NUMBER.


00:15:07.033 --> 00:15:07.933
WE'LL TAKE CARE
OF EVERYTHING.

00:15:08.033 --> 00:15:08.867
[ LAUGHING ]


00:15:08.967 --> 00:15:09.833
YOU UNDERSTAND.


00:15:09.933 --> 00:15:12.033
IT AIN'T PERSONAL,
IT'S JUST BUSINESS.

00:15:12.133 --> 00:15:12.934
OKAY.


00:15:13.034 --> 00:15:14.100
WELL, NOW I'M SAVED.


00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.200
AND I HAVE A LOT
OF MAFIA FRIENDS.

00:15:17.300 --> 00:15:18.400
PEOPLE SAY, WHY?


00:15:18.500 --> 00:15:21.067
WELL, THEY NEED JESUS JUST
AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE.

00:15:21.167 --> 00:15:22.800
HE SAID, GO TO ALL
THE WORLD, DIDN'T HE?

00:15:22.900 --> 00:15:24.200
DIDN'T SAY SOME,
DID HE?

00:15:24.300 --> 00:15:25.567
ALL THE WORLD.


00:15:25.667 --> 00:15:29.100
SO I KNOW THEM AND I'VE EATEN
DINNER AND I EAT IN RESTAURANTS

00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.500
WHEN I GO TO LITTLE ITALY AND
ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS.

00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:35.967
ANYWAY, AND I THOUGHT
-- AND JERRY SAID, MAN.

00:15:36.067 --> 00:15:37.634
AND JERRY DIDN'T KNOW
THIS WAS GOING ON.

00:15:37.734 --> 00:15:41.933
JERRY, THEY DIDN'T
KNOW I HAD THAT NUMBER.

00:15:42.033 --> 00:15:43.267
[ CHUCKLES ]


00:15:43.367 --> 00:15:44.666
IT'S SO FUNNY.


00:15:44.766 --> 00:15:47.100
AND I LET IT SLIP OUT
TO JERRY BY ACCIDENT,

00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.566
AND ANYWAY, I WAS JUST
TALKING, HE SAID, MAN,

00:15:49.666 --> 00:15:51.067
WHAT ARE WE GOING
TO DO, JESSE?

00:15:51.167 --> 00:15:52.467
PEOPLE ARE LINING UP.


00:15:52.567 --> 00:15:55.333
AND MY GOD, WE'RE GOING TO BE
LATE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

00:15:55.433 --> 00:15:56.834
AND I HEARD THIS.


00:15:56.934 --> 00:15:58.333
USE THE NUMBER.


00:15:58.433 --> 00:16:01.300
WELL, I THOUGHT,
THE NUMBER.

00:16:01.400 --> 00:16:03.233
SO I SAID, JERRY, I'LL BE
BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.

00:16:03.333 --> 00:16:05.066
THIS IS BEFORE
CELL PHONES.

00:16:05.166 --> 00:16:07.167
CELL PHONES DIDN'T
-- WEREN'T THAT BIG.

00:16:07.267 --> 00:16:09.600
SO YOU HAD TO GET
TO A PHONE BOOTH.

00:16:09.700 --> 00:16:11.600
SO I CALLED THAT FRIEND
AND I SAID, HEY,

00:16:11.700 --> 00:16:12.567
HOW ARE YOU DOING?


00:16:12.667 --> 00:16:14.333
WHAT CAN WE DO?


00:16:14.433 --> 00:16:17.166
I SAID, I'M IN
PHILADELPHIA HERE.

00:16:17.266 --> 00:16:18.134
HE SAID,
WHAT DO YOU NEED?

00:16:18.234 --> 00:16:18.700
JUST LIKE THAT.


00:16:18.800 --> 00:16:19.534
WHAT DO YOU NEED?


00:16:19.634 --> 00:16:22.534
I SAID, MAN, I'M
IN PHILADELPHIA,

00:16:22.634 --> 00:16:25.233
THE UNION WON'T LET
US GET ON THE STAGE.

00:16:25.333 --> 00:16:28.133
AND I SAID, WE DON'T MIND
PAYING THEM THE FULL DUES,

00:16:28.233 --> 00:16:31.033
WHATEVER IT TAKES, BECAUSE
WE COULD GET IT DONE REAL QUICK.

00:16:31.133 --> 00:16:35.166
HE SAID,
WHAT HIS NAME?

00:16:35.266 --> 00:16:37.267
I SAID,
HIS NAME IS FRANK.

00:16:37.367 --> 00:16:38.533
HE SAYS, STAY THERE.


00:16:38.633 --> 00:16:41.700
I'LL CALL YOU BACK
IN FIVE MINUTES.

00:16:41.800 --> 00:16:43.900
I HUNG UP THE PHONE.


00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.633
I STAYED.


00:16:45.733 --> 00:16:47.200
YOU LISTEN TO WHEN
THESE PEOPLE TALK,

00:16:47.300 --> 00:16:48.600
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.


00:16:48.700 --> 00:16:50.433
AND IT WASN'T
THREE MINUTES.

00:16:50.533 --> 00:16:52.600
FRANK, THE GUY THAT
CUSSES AND THROWS,

00:16:52.700 --> 00:16:54.633
COMES TO ME AND HE
SAYS, I'M SORRY.

00:16:54.733 --> 00:16:57.400
I DIDN'T MEAN TO
DISRESPECT YOU.

00:16:57.500 --> 00:16:58.500
WHAT CAN WE DO?


00:16:58.767 --> 00:17:00.000
WHAT CAN WE DO?


00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:03.167
THEY MADE A PHONE CALL,
SEE, AND EVERYTHING.

00:17:03.267 --> 00:17:04.467
WHAT CAN WE DO?


00:17:04.567 --> 00:17:06.433
I SAID, WELL, FRANK, I DON'T
WANT TO GET NOBODY IN TROUBLE.

00:17:06.533 --> 00:17:09.467
I JUST, IF YOU LET US,
WE'LL PAY YOU DOUBLE TIME.

00:17:09.567 --> 00:17:12.467
OH, NO, WE WON'T
EVEN CHARGE YOU.

00:17:12.567 --> 00:17:13.667
JUST DO WHAT
YOU'VE GOT TO DO.

00:17:13.767 --> 00:17:15.467
SO WE SET IT ALL UP.


00:17:15.567 --> 00:17:18.167
JERRY COMES RUNNING IN
THERE AND HE GOES, MY GOD,

00:17:18.267 --> 00:17:21.000
MAN, THE LORD WORKS
IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS.

00:17:21.100 --> 00:17:22.366
AND I WENT, YEAH.


00:17:22.466 --> 00:17:23.334
[ LAUGHING ]


00:17:23.434 --> 00:17:25.000
THAT'S A TRUE STORY.


00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:27.300
AND WHEN JERRY
FINALLY WENT,

00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:28.734
YOU'VE GOT TO
BE KIDDING ME!

00:17:28.834 --> 00:17:30.967
I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, GOD
USES THINGS YOU NEVER THOUGHT

00:17:31.067 --> 00:17:32.434
HE WOULD USE.


00:17:32.534 --> 00:17:37.866
AND THAT NIGHT, OH, I THINK
MAYBE 130 PEOPLE GOT BORN AGAIN.

00:17:37.966 --> 00:17:40.000
BUT THAT WOULD HAVE SHUT
DOWN IF WE COULDN'T HAVE

00:17:40.100 --> 00:17:42.433
BEEN ABLE TO DO
WHAT WE HAD TO DO.

00:17:42.533 --> 00:17:44.200
NOW, I'M NOT TELLING PEOPLE TO
GO OUT AND USE THE MAFIA,

00:17:44.300 --> 00:17:45.034
I'M NOT SAYING THAT.


00:17:45.134 --> 00:17:46.233
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING WAS --


00:17:46.333 --> 00:17:47.834
REBECCA: YOU'RE NOT
ENDORSING THE MAFIA RIGHT NOW.

00:17:47.934 --> 00:17:49.133
JESSE: NO, I'M NOT
ENDORSING ANY OF THAT.

00:17:49.233 --> 00:17:51.000
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?


00:17:51.100 --> 00:17:54.800
I'M GOING TO LET
MY LIGHT SO SHINE.

00:17:54.900 --> 00:17:56.034
AND I'LL TELL
EVERYBODY OUT THERE,

00:17:56.134 --> 00:17:58.633
YOU KNOW BETTER
ANYBODY ELSE.

00:17:58.733 --> 00:18:01.134
SO THE BEST THING YOU DO
IS LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE.

00:18:01.234 --> 00:18:02.500
SO I DO.


00:18:02.600 --> 00:18:04.667
NOW, SOMETIMES, I'M GOING
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,

00:18:04.767 --> 00:18:07.233
Y'ALL KNOW I'VE BEEN
ATTACKED FEROCIOUSLY.

00:18:07.333 --> 00:18:08.467
I'VE BEEN PERSECUTED.


00:18:08.567 --> 00:18:11.367
DAYSTAR, WHEN I WAS THE
NUMBER ONE STORY IN THE WORLD

00:18:11.467 --> 00:18:12.300
TWO YEARS AGO.


00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:13.300
REBECCA:
I REMEMBER THAT.

00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:14.200
JESSE: OH, THEY
WANTED TO KILL ME, MAN.

00:18:14.300 --> 00:18:16.933
I WAS THE FRONT PAGE
IN KAZAKHSTAN.

00:18:17.033 --> 00:18:19.633
I DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHERE THAT COUNTRY IS.

00:18:19.733 --> 00:18:21.966
AND I HAD MY LA COSA NOSTRA
FRIENDS CALL ME,

00:18:22.066 --> 00:18:24.867
THEY SAID, AND I LOVE
THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHY,

00:18:24.967 --> 00:18:26.466
BUT I PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT.

00:18:26.566 --> 00:18:28.400
HE SAID, DO YOU WANT US
TO TAKE CARE OF THIS?

00:18:28.500 --> 00:18:29.866
AND I WANTED TO SAY, YEAH.


00:18:29.966 --> 00:18:31.900
TAKE CARE OF THIS.


00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:33.066
BUT I WENT, NO, NO.


00:18:33.166 --> 00:18:33.867
I SAID, NO.


00:18:33.967 --> 00:18:35.200
THE LORD WILL
TAKE CARE OF IT.

00:18:35.300 --> 00:18:38.233
AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
A LOT QUICKER IF THEY DID.

00:18:38.333 --> 00:18:40.166
BUT THAT'S WRONG, SEE.


00:18:40.266 --> 00:18:42.367
YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND,
THAT'S TERRORISM.

00:18:42.467 --> 00:18:43.534
THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.


00:18:43.634 --> 00:18:46.300
YOU SAY, I KNOW SOMEBODY
THAT CAN BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF

00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:47.434
IN A SECOND.


00:18:47.534 --> 00:18:48.967
AND TO THEM, IT
AIN'T PERSONAL,

00:18:49.067 --> 00:18:50.866
IT'S JUST BUSINESS, YOU
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?

00:18:50.966 --> 00:18:56.734
SO WHEN I GOT BORN AGAIN OR WHEN
I SPEAK TO THE MOB ABOUT JESUS,

00:18:56.834 --> 00:18:59.500
DO YOU, I
TALK THEIR LANGUAGE.

00:18:59.600 --> 00:19:02.200
I TELL THEM, I SAID, YOU NEED TO
MEET THE BOSS OF THE BOSSES,

00:19:02.300 --> 00:19:03.900
THE CAPO DEI CAPI.


00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.600
SO YOU COULD
BE A MADE MAN.

00:19:06.700 --> 00:19:07.400
MADE MAN?


00:19:07.500 --> 00:19:08.734
THAT'S A BIG
THING IN A MAFIA.

00:19:08.834 --> 00:19:11.066
YEAH, BUT MAY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF GOD, YOU UNDERSTAND?

00:19:11.166 --> 00:19:12.200
[ LAUGHING ]


00:19:12.300 --> 00:19:13.234
AND THEY GO,
OH, YEAH, MAN.

00:19:13.334 --> 00:19:15.134
MAN, THEY SAID, YOU
MEAN YOU GOT JUICE?

00:19:15.234 --> 00:19:16.266
I SAID, YEAH,
WE GOT JUICE.

00:19:16.366 --> 00:19:18.200
AND IT JUST
WORKS THAT WAY.

00:19:18.300 --> 00:19:19.800
YOU HAVE TO TALK
THEIR LINGO.

00:19:19.900 --> 00:19:23.367
AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF
THEM GET BORN AGAIN.

00:19:23.467 --> 00:19:24.300
REBECCA: PRAISE GOD.


00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:25.133
JESSE: ISN'T THAT
A MIRACLE TO JESUS?

00:19:25.233 --> 00:19:26.400
REBECCA: THAT IS.


00:19:26.500 --> 00:19:27.967
JESSE: GOD WILL SAVE PEOPLE
IF THEY'LL REACH OUT TO HIM.

00:19:28.067 --> 00:19:28.934
REBECCA: IF YOU'LL JUST --


00:19:29.034 --> 00:19:30.167
JESSE: THAT'S
ONE PART OF IT.

00:19:30.267 --> 00:19:32.033
REBECCA: IF YOU'RE
WILLING TO BE USED THAT WAY

00:19:32.133 --> 00:19:35.000
AND YOU THROW OFF YOUR
RELIGIOUS APPEARANCES,

00:19:35.100 --> 00:19:38.267
HOW DID YOU HANDLE EVERYONE
IN THE WORLD ATTACKING YOU?

00:19:38.367 --> 00:19:40.366
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
HAVE TUCKED THEIR TAILS AND RAN.

00:19:40.466 --> 00:19:41.633
JESSE: WELL, MY
DAUGHTER SAID THAT SHE SAID,

00:19:41.733 --> 00:19:44.267
DADDY, YOU'RE THE STRONGEST MAN
I'VE EVER MET IN MY LIFE.

00:19:44.367 --> 00:19:45.567
AND I ASKED THE LORD,
I SAID,

00:19:45.667 --> 00:19:47.866
HOW DO YOU WANT
ME TO HANDLE THIS?

00:19:47.966 --> 00:19:51.300
AND HE SAID THIS: YOU'LL
KILL IT WITH JOY.

00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.334
AND THE JOY OF THE LORD
IS YOUR STRENGTH.

00:19:53.434 --> 00:19:56.034
AND I'M KNOWN AS THE APOSTLE
OF JOY WHO TAGGED ME WITH THAT

00:19:56.134 --> 00:19:57.867
WAS JOHN HAGEE, WHAT,
TWENTY-FIVE,

00:19:57.967 --> 00:20:00.200
THIRTY YEARS AGO,
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

00:20:00.300 --> 00:20:01.966
AND I SAID, I WILL
KILL IT WITH JOY.

00:20:02.066 --> 00:20:03.466
REBECCA:
I LOVE THAT, THOUGH.

00:20:03.566 --> 00:20:05.467
I FEEL LIKE A LESSON I'M
HAVING TO LEARN RIGHT NOW

00:20:05.567 --> 00:20:08.333
IS TO SURRENDER WHAT
PEOPLE THINK ABOUT YOU

00:20:08.433 --> 00:20:09.933
AND DON'T EVEN TRY
TO CONTROL IT.

00:20:10.033 --> 00:20:11.667
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE
SERVING THE LORD,

00:20:11.767 --> 00:20:12.467
THEY'RE GOING TO HATE YOU.


00:20:12.567 --> 00:20:14.100
JESUS SAYS, IF
THEY HATED ME,

00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:15.266
THEY'RE GOING TO HATE YOU.


00:20:15.366 --> 00:20:17.067
JESSE: WELL, NO ONE'S
GOING TO JUDGE YOU, REBECCA.

00:20:17.167 --> 00:20:18.800
YOU WILL STAND BEFORE GOD.


00:20:18.900 --> 00:20:21.700
AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE
THAT HAVE CRITICIZED YOU

00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:24.900
WILL NOT BE THERE TO
SAY THIS AND SAY THAT.

00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:26.434
AND YOU KNOW WHAT
GOD'S GOING TO SAY?

00:20:26.534 --> 00:20:28.733
WELL DONE, MY GOOD
AND FAITHFUL SERVANT.

00:20:28.833 --> 00:20:29.867
I LIKE THAT.


00:20:29.967 --> 00:20:31.167
REBECCA: I DO, TOO.


00:20:31.267 --> 00:20:32.934
JESSE: SO I JUST LEFT, I WISH
THEY WOULDN'T BELIEVE THAT.

00:20:33.034 --> 00:20:34.567
I LIKE BEING LIKED.


00:20:34.667 --> 00:20:35.734
REBECCA: ME TOO.


00:20:35.834 --> 00:20:37.166
JESSE: JODY TOLD ME THAT
BEFORE I LEFT NOT LONG AGO.

00:20:37.266 --> 00:20:39.267
DADDY, PEOPLE
LOVE YOU SO MUCH.

00:20:39.367 --> 00:20:40.600
I SAID, I'M LOVEABLE.


00:20:40.700 --> 00:20:42.100
[ LAUGHING ]


00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:45.766
I'M LOVEABLE.


00:20:45.866 --> 00:20:47.567
AND I DON'T MEAN THAT
PRIDEFULLY, I JUST AM.

00:20:47.667 --> 00:20:49.733
IF YOU WOULD HAVE
SEEN ME BEFORE

00:20:49.833 --> 00:20:52.033
I WAS SAVED I WOULDN'T
HAVE LOVED YOU.

00:20:52.133 --> 00:20:52.867
NUH-UH.


00:20:52.967 --> 00:20:53.734
OH, YOU THINK I'D CARE?


00:20:53.834 --> 00:20:55.600
I DON'T CARE IF YOU DIED.


00:20:55.700 --> 00:20:58.800
THAT'S HOW -- WHEN YOU
HAVE A HOLE IN YOU SO DEEP

00:20:58.900 --> 00:21:02.233
THAT NOBODY CAN FILL UP
OTHER THAN JESUS CHRIST,

00:21:02.333 --> 00:21:05.034
IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU'RE
CAPABLE OF DOING.

00:21:05.134 --> 00:21:06.567
AND THAT'S THE
PROBLEM WITH SATAN.

00:21:06.667 --> 00:21:11.267
HE'S GOT THIS BIG HOLE AND
HE'S DESTROYING HIMSELF.

00:21:11.367 --> 00:21:15.833
AND I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR
HIM BECAUSE HE DOESN'T CARE.

00:21:15.933 --> 00:21:18.334
BUT I MADE UP MY MIND,
I DON'T HAVE TIME TO FOCUS

00:21:18.434 --> 00:21:19.967
ON THAT STUFF.


00:21:20.067 --> 00:21:24.366
I HAVE TO FOCUS ON CHRIST
THE HOPE OF GLORY, CHRIST IN ME.

00:21:24.466 --> 00:21:25.433
JUST THAT SIMPLE.


00:21:25.533 --> 00:21:27.133
REBECCA: AND I JUST --
I WISH MORE MINISTERS,

00:21:27.233 --> 00:21:29.600
IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO
THIS, MINISTER OR NOT,

00:21:29.700 --> 00:21:32.433
BELIEVER, WHATEVER,
WHOEVER YOU ARE,

00:21:32.533 --> 00:21:34.267
I JUST WANT THEM TO
RECEIVE THAT WORD.

00:21:34.367 --> 00:21:37.034
BECAUSE IF THE ENEMY CAN
INTIMIDATE YOU

00:21:37.134 --> 00:21:38.567
AND MAKE YOU CARE ABOUT
WHAT PEOPLE THINK,

00:21:38.667 --> 00:21:39.934
YOU'RE GOING TO STOP.


00:21:40.034 --> 00:21:42.100
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO
WHAT GOD CALLS YOU TO DO.

00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:46.900
BUT IF YOU CAN LET THAT GO
AND JUST ALLOW GOD'S VIEW OF YOU

00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.100
TO BE
ALL THAT MATTERS,

00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:50.500
YOU'LL GO EXACTLY WHERE
HE WANTS YOU TO GO.

00:21:50.600 --> 00:21:53.734
JESSE: WELL, HOW MANY TIMES
DAYSTAR HAS BEEN RAWLY RIPPED?

00:21:53.834 --> 00:21:54.367
REBECCA: OH, I KNOW.


00:21:54.467 --> 00:21:55.233
I GREW UP UNDER IT.


00:21:55.333 --> 00:21:56.300
JESSE: YEAH,
IT'S JUST PART.

00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.067
MARCUS, BEFORE
HE WENT HOME,

00:21:58.167 --> 00:21:59.633
HE WOULD CALL ME SOMETIMES
AND HE WOULD SAY, OH, BOY,

00:21:59.733 --> 00:22:00.734
THEY'RE COMING AT ME.


00:22:00.834 --> 00:22:03.333
AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT
THAT MEANS EVIDENT

00:22:03.433 --> 00:22:04.967
YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING RIGHT.


00:22:05.067 --> 00:22:06.667
NOW, THIS IS SO WONDERFUL.


00:22:06.767 --> 00:22:08.533
I SAID THIS, AND
JONI LOVED IT.

00:22:08.633 --> 00:22:10.333
LET ME TELL
EVERYBODY TODAY.

00:22:10.433 --> 00:22:13.700
DO YOU KNOW THAT GOD
CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR SIN?

00:22:13.800 --> 00:22:15.767
YOU CAN.


00:22:15.867 --> 00:22:17.900
I CAN REMEMBER
THINGS GOD CAN'T.

00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.000
HE DIDN'T COVER
MY SIN, REBECCA,

00:22:20.100 --> 00:22:21.133
HE WASHED IT AWAY.


00:22:21.233 --> 00:22:22.700
IT NEVER EXISTED.


00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:25.233
HE EXPUNGED MY RECORD.


00:22:25.333 --> 00:22:26.733
IT DOESN'T EXIST.


00:22:26.833 --> 00:22:30.400
NOW, I MAY BE ABLE
TO REMEMBER THAT, BUT GOD CAN'T.

00:22:30.500 --> 00:22:32.334
SEE, COMFORT YOURSELF
WITH THOSE WORDS.

00:22:32.434 --> 00:22:34.433
WHEN YOU ASK CHRIST TO COME
INTO YOUR HEART AND YOU REPENT,

00:22:34.533 --> 00:22:35.900
THAT'S WHY
I BELIEVE IN REPENTANCE.

00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:39.633
BECAUSE YOUR WHOLE
RECORD GETS EXPUNGED.

00:22:39.733 --> 00:22:42.466
LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED.


00:22:42.566 --> 00:22:44.067
AND THAT'S A
WONDERFUL THING.

00:22:44.167 --> 00:22:45.967
SO DO IT, AND YOU'LL BE
BLESSED BY IT.

00:22:46.067 --> 00:22:47.200
REBECCA: THAT'S THE
POWER OF THE BLOOD OF JESUS.

00:22:47.300 --> 00:22:47.834
JESSE: AMEN.


00:22:47.934 --> 00:22:48.466
REBECCA: ALL RIGHT.


00:22:48.566 --> 00:22:49.400
LAST THING.


00:22:49.500 --> 00:22:50.500
JESSE: OKAY.


00:22:50.600 --> 00:22:53.066
REBECCA: TELL US ABOUT
YOUR HEAVEN EXPERIENCE.

00:22:53.166 --> 00:22:55.467
BECAUSE YOU KNOW -- I KNOW
WHAT THE INTERNET WANTS TO HEAR,

00:22:55.567 --> 00:22:56.600
AND PEOPLE
ARE HUNGRY.

00:22:56.700 --> 00:22:59.933
I HAVE A HOLY JEALOUSY.


00:23:00.033 --> 00:23:01.167
I KEEP ASKING GOD
TO BEAM ME UP,

00:23:01.267 --> 00:23:03.067
IT HAS NOT HAPPENED, I
DON'T KNOW IF IT EVER WILL.

00:23:03.167 --> 00:23:04.234
BUT IT HAPPENED TO YOU.


00:23:04.334 --> 00:23:07.466
JESSE: IT HAPPENED TO ME IN 1988
IN MAGNOLIA, ARKANSAS,

00:23:07.566 --> 00:23:11.366
AT THE BEST WESTERN HOTEL
AT ROOM 105

00:23:11.466 --> 00:23:12.833
AT 1:00 O'CLOCK
IN THE AFTERNOON.

00:23:12.933 --> 00:23:14.567
I CAN REMEMBER IT
LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.

00:23:14.667 --> 00:23:15.733
PEOPLE SAID,
YOU HAD A VISION.

00:23:15.833 --> 00:23:16.400
NO.


00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:17.467
I DIDN'T HAVE A VISION.


00:23:17.567 --> 00:23:18.633
I HAD A TRIP.


00:23:18.733 --> 00:23:20.800
NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW I
GOT THROUGH THAT CEILING.

00:23:20.900 --> 00:23:22.766
I HEARD THE WIND, WHOO.


00:23:22.866 --> 00:23:24.534
AND THE FIRST THING I
THOUGHT IN MY MIND WAS,

00:23:24.634 --> 00:23:26.000
IS THERE A TORNADO
OUTSIDE OR SOMETHING?

00:23:26.100 --> 00:23:28.566
YOU'RE THINKING, AND I
GOT SUCKED OUT THAT ROOM.

00:23:28.666 --> 00:23:30.366
TRAVELING AT A PHENOMENAL
RATE OF SPEED.

00:23:30.466 --> 00:23:31.833
SOME PEOPLE SAY,
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

00:23:31.933 --> 00:23:34.434
I DON'T MEAN THIS
TO BE ARROGANT.

00:23:34.534 --> 00:23:36.000
I DON'T CARE.


00:23:36.100 --> 00:23:38.200
DON'T BELIEVE IT.


00:23:38.300 --> 00:23:39.067
BUT IT'S STILL TRUE.


00:23:39.167 --> 00:23:40.167
REBECCA: [ CHUCKLES ]


00:23:40.267 --> 00:23:42.700
JESSE: AND THE LORD SAID
I HAD AN ANGEL PICK ME UP

00:23:42.800 --> 00:23:45.500
THAT I HAD TALKED TO
YEARS BEFORE, AND HE SAID,

00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:49.800
YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT
WITH THE MOST HIGH GOD.

00:23:49.900 --> 00:23:55.333
AND TO SEE HEAVEN IS
ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING PLACES.

00:23:55.433 --> 00:23:57.900
IT'S HARD TO TALK
ABOUT IT IN ENGLISH.

00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:00.200
I COULD PRAY IT
IN THE HOLY GHOST.

00:24:00.300 --> 00:24:02.933
AND I'M VERY, VERY
CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

00:24:03.033 --> 00:24:05.466
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PROGRAMS
-- MY WIFE'S IN HERE --

00:24:05.566 --> 00:24:09.000
HAVE ASKED ME TO COME TALK
ABOUT THIS, AND I REFUSE.

00:24:09.100 --> 00:24:09.867
I REFUSE.


00:24:09.967 --> 00:24:12.633
BECAUSE IT'S HOLY TO ME.


00:24:12.733 --> 00:24:15.833
AND I WROTE A BOOK CALLED<i>CLOSE
ENCOUNTERS OF THE GOD KIND</i> .

00:24:15.933 --> 00:24:18.133
AND I INCLUDED
THE HEAVEN THING.

00:24:18.233 --> 00:24:22.600
AND I SPOKE AT A JOHN OSTEEN'S
CHURCH, OH, GOD,

00:24:22.700 --> 00:24:25.134
WHAT, 1993, '94.


00:24:25.234 --> 00:24:27.266
I WAS SKINNY
AND I HAD BROWN HAIR.

00:24:27.366 --> 00:24:27.833
IT WAS NICE.


00:24:27.933 --> 00:24:29.067
[ LAUGHING ]


00:24:29.167 --> 00:24:35.034
AND THE ANGEL BROUGHT ME AROUND
AND I MET JESUS CHRIST,

00:24:35.134 --> 00:24:37.134
PUT HIS
HAND ON MY SHOULDER.

00:24:37.234 --> 00:24:38.100
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW
WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE,

00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:40.900
HE'S BETWEEN
5'11" AND 6'1".

00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:42.233
I THOUGHT HIS
HAIR WAS MY COLOR.

00:24:42.333 --> 00:24:44.400
YOU SEE HOW WHITE MY
HAIR IS, IF YOU CAN SEE.

00:24:44.500 --> 00:24:45.466
REBECCA: [ CHUCKLES ]


00:24:45.566 --> 00:24:46.433
JESSE: BUT WHEN HE
TURNED HIS HEAD LIKE THIS,

00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:49.267
HIS HAIR WAS LIGHT BROWN.


00:24:49.367 --> 00:24:51.366
AND HE BROUGHT
ME TO HEAVEN.

00:24:51.466 --> 00:24:53.734
AND HE TOLD --
GAVE ME A MESSAGE.

00:24:53.834 --> 00:24:57.133
AND I ARGUED WITH
HIM OVER THE MESSAGE.

00:24:57.233 --> 00:24:59.400
HE SAID, GO TELL MY
PEOPLE I'M COMING.

00:24:59.500 --> 00:25:01.067
I SAID, YOU'VE
GOT THE WRONG MAN.

00:25:01.167 --> 00:25:02.167
YOU NEED BILLY GRAHAM.


00:25:02.267 --> 00:25:03.567
THIS WAS 1988.


00:25:03.667 --> 00:25:06.100
NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE
KNEW WHO I WAS.

00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.633
TODAY THAT'S A WHOLE
OTHER BALL GAME.

00:25:08.733 --> 00:25:12.100
I SAID, YOU'VE GOT
THE WRONG MAN HERE.

00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:13.833
AND I SAID, LORD, THEY
KNOW YOU'RE COMING.

00:25:13.933 --> 00:25:15.567
AND HE GOT REAL
STERN WITH ME.

00:25:15.667 --> 00:25:17.100
HE WENT, NO, THEY DON'T.


00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.067
NOW, REBECCA, THINK ABOUT THIS
RIGHT NOW WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS

00:25:19.167 --> 00:25:20.200
PODCAST.


00:25:20.300 --> 00:25:23.134
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT
THINKING ABOUT GOD?

00:25:23.234 --> 00:25:24.300
REBECCA: I WOULD
SAY THE MAJORITY.

00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.067
JESSE: THAT'S CORRECT.


00:25:26.167 --> 00:25:29.300
SO HE NEEDS A VOICE.


00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:30.800
THAT'S WHY YOU
DO THESE THINGS.

00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:32.367
HE NEEDS A VOICE.


00:25:32.467 --> 00:25:33.467
SEE.


00:25:33.567 --> 00:25:37.800
AND I MET THE APOSTLE PAUL,
I TALKED TO JONAH,

00:25:37.900 --> 00:25:39.700
I SAW MOSES FROM AFAR OFF.


00:25:39.800 --> 00:25:40.800
I GOT TO MEET ABRAHAM.


00:25:40.900 --> 00:25:41.867
WELL, HE'S A NICE GUY.


00:25:41.967 --> 00:25:44.634
HE'S THICK-BARREL
CHESTED, BIG GUY.

00:25:44.734 --> 00:25:46.233
BOY, I MET THE PATRIARCH.


00:25:46.333 --> 00:25:50.567
I SAW MOSES, BUT I DIDN'T
TALK TO HIM FROM AFAR OFF.

00:25:50.667 --> 00:25:53.634
AND I LOVE MY CONVERSATION
WITH THE APOSTLE PAUL.

00:25:53.734 --> 00:25:57.033
NOW, THE LORD TOOK
ME TO MY HOUSE.

00:25:57.133 --> 00:25:58.500
JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF.


00:25:58.600 --> 00:26:02.900
I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL HOME
IN THE NATURAL HERE, GORGEOUS.

00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:07.100
BUT, MAN, IT'S A SHACK COMPARED
TO WHAT GOD'S BUILT FOR ME.

00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:09.500
AND HE SAID, I MADE
A TABLE FOR YOU.

00:26:09.600 --> 00:26:12.467
REBECCA, I LOVE
A FOYER OF A HOUSE.

00:26:12.567 --> 00:26:16.133
TO ME, IT SETS
THE TONE OF THE HOUSE.

00:26:16.233 --> 00:26:19.700
AND JESUS IS THE CARPENTER
FOR A REASON, HE BUILDS THINGS.

00:26:19.800 --> 00:26:22.100
HE DON'T JUST GOT A JOB,
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.

00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.966
AND HE BUILT A BEAUTIFUL
TABLE THAT HE PUT GOLDEN ANGELS

00:26:26.066 --> 00:26:27.667
ON THE
CORNERS OF IT.

00:26:27.767 --> 00:26:29.433
I COULD SEE IT LIKE
I'M SEEING YOU.

00:26:29.533 --> 00:26:31.300
HE SAID, I THOUGHT
YOU MIGHT LIKE THIS.

00:26:31.400 --> 00:26:34.866
I THOUGHT, MY GOD, DO I
LOVE THIS, THIS IS GREAT.

00:26:34.966 --> 00:26:37.600
BUT WHAT WAS GREATER THAN
ANYTHING WAS TO ACTUALLY

00:26:37.700 --> 00:26:40.634
BE STANDING THERE AND
TALKING TO GOD ALMIGHTY.

00:26:40.734 --> 00:26:42.867
AND ALL THESE
PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE,

00:26:42.967 --> 00:26:45.233
I WASN'T INTERESTED
IN GOLD STREETS.

00:26:45.333 --> 00:26:45.967
WHICH I SAW.


00:26:46.067 --> 00:26:47.100
BEAUTIFUL.


00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.067
DIAMOND, BERYL, JASPER,
ONYX, RUBY, PEARLY GATES.

00:26:49.167 --> 00:26:51.833
YOU OUGHT TO SEE THAT BOOK
OF LIFE, THAT THING'S BIG.

00:26:51.933 --> 00:26:53.734
YOU OUGHT TO SEE THAT,
THAT THING IS BEAUTIFUL.

00:26:53.834 --> 00:26:56.467
WHAT I WAS INTERESTED IN
WAS PEOPLE.

00:26:56.567 --> 00:26:57.333
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:26:57.433 --> 00:26:58.900
JESSE: I WANTED
TO NOTICE PEOPLE.

00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:01.967
YOU'VE NEVER SEEN THE COLOR RED
UNTIL YOU SEE IT IN HEAVEN.

00:27:02.067 --> 00:27:04.434
AND I'LL GIVE YOU
AN ANALOGY OF THIS.

00:27:04.534 --> 00:27:06.467
BEFORE WE HAD
THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE

00:27:06.567 --> 00:27:08.867
OR THE JAMES WEBB TELESCOPE,
WE HAD TO LOOK

00:27:08.967 --> 00:27:10.500
THROUGH THE ATMOSPHERE.


00:27:10.600 --> 00:27:12.434
SO THAT DULLED
ALL THE SENSES.

00:27:12.534 --> 00:27:15.367
ONCE WE GOT THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE
UP THERE AND THE JAMES WEBB,

00:27:15.467 --> 00:27:18.600
NOW IT'S, ALL
THE BLURRING IS GONE.

00:27:18.700 --> 00:27:22.800
AND WHEN THE HUBBLE TELESCOPE,
ESPECIALLY THE JAMES WEBB ONE,

00:27:22.900 --> 00:27:24.867
YOU GO, JESUS,
LOOK AT THAT.

00:27:24.967 --> 00:27:30.466
BECAUSE, YOU SEE, ON THE
EARTH IS THE STAIN OF SIN.

00:27:30.566 --> 00:27:31.600
SEE, NOW, WHEN
YOU GET TO HEAVEN,

00:27:31.700 --> 00:27:33.600
THERE'S -- THAT'S
WHY HE SAID THAT

00:27:33.700 --> 00:27:34.800
HE'S GOING TO
DESTROY THIS EARTH.

00:27:34.900 --> 00:27:36.367
HE'S GOING TO GIVE US
A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH.

00:27:36.467 --> 00:27:39.900
BECAUSE SO THERE WILL
BE NO STAIN ON IT.

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.534
YOU CAN HAVE THE PRETTIEST SUIT
OR THE PRETTIEST DRESS

00:27:42.634 --> 00:27:45.000
IN THE WORLD, BUT IF
YOU'VE GOT A SMALL STAIN,

00:27:45.100 --> 00:27:46.167
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
NOTICE THE STAIN

00:27:46.267 --> 00:27:48.300
BEFORE THEY
NOTICE THE DRESS.

00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:54.700
WELL, RED, BLUES, PURPLES,
IT'S THE MOST AMAZING THING.

00:27:54.800 --> 00:27:57.433
BUT THE THING
WAS TO SEE JESUS.

00:27:57.533 --> 00:27:59.500
HIS CLOTHES.


00:27:59.600 --> 00:28:02.166
LOOKED LIKE DIAMONDS.


00:28:02.266 --> 00:28:03.633
AND THEN I REALIZED
WHAT IT WAS.

00:28:03.733 --> 00:28:06.200
IT WAS HIS ANOINTING
WAS FLOWING THROUGH THE CLOTHES.

00:28:06.300 --> 00:28:06.967
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:28:07.067 --> 00:28:09.667
JESSE: SPARKLING, JUST, WOW.


00:28:09.767 --> 00:28:11.767
AND I THOUGHT, MY GOD.


00:28:11.867 --> 00:28:14.833
AND THE KIDS COME
RUNNING UP TO HIM.

00:28:14.933 --> 00:28:15.633
AND HE JUST LOVED THEM.


00:28:15.733 --> 00:28:16.900
REBECCA: AW.


00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:18.433
JESSE: AND THAT ANGEL THAT
BROUGHT ME THERE, HE KNELT DOWN.

00:28:18.533 --> 00:28:20.433
I KNELT DOWN, TOO.


00:28:20.533 --> 00:28:21.800
HE'S THE KING OF KINGS.


00:28:21.900 --> 00:28:23.000
I GOT TO MEET KING DAVID.


00:28:23.100 --> 00:28:25.434
HE'S THE ONLY OTHER PERSON
BESIDES JESUS THAT I SAW

00:28:25.534 --> 00:28:27.000
WITH A CROWN ON.


00:28:27.100 --> 00:28:28.433
HE IS THE KING OF ISRAEL.


00:28:28.533 --> 00:28:29.300
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:30.467
JESSE: THAT'S A FACT.


00:28:30.567 --> 00:28:32.367
AND HE WAS A NICE GUY.


00:28:32.467 --> 00:28:34.733
AND HE SAID, I HEARD
YOU WAS A MUSICIAN.

00:28:34.833 --> 00:28:36.300
I SAID, YES.


00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.066
HE SAID, I WAS A MUSICIAN.


00:28:38.166 --> 00:28:39.133
I'VE WROTE SONGS.


00:28:39.233 --> 00:28:40.600
I SAID, YEAH, I'VE READ
SOME OF YOUR SONGS.

00:28:40.700 --> 00:28:41.933
[ LAUGHING ]


00:28:42.033 --> 00:28:43.500
JESSE: WE'RE JUST HAVING THIS
DISCUSSION LIKE IT'S NOTHING,

00:28:43.600 --> 00:28:44.500
YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING.

00:28:44.600 --> 00:28:47.933
AND YOU KNOW WHAT,
IT'S JUST THAT NORMAL.

00:28:48.033 --> 00:28:50.133
IT'S JUST THAT NORMAL.


00:28:50.233 --> 00:28:52.034
AND IT WAS MOST -- AND
IT'S PAVILIONS WITH PEOPLE,

00:28:52.134 --> 00:28:54.200
KIDS SINGING, GREAT.


00:28:54.300 --> 00:28:56.100
AND HE HASN'T
LOST PARADISE.

00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.700
I MET A COUPLE, AND I'M
FAIRLY SAD TO TALK ABOUT THIS,

00:28:59.800 --> 00:29:04.533
WITH THEIR FAMILY, THEY WERE
KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT.

00:29:04.633 --> 00:29:06.200
NOW, ALL OF THEM.


00:29:06.300 --> 00:29:08.100
AND AS I WAS GOING
TOWARD THE THRONE,

00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:09.933
WALKING WITH THAT ANGEL,
I GOT TO MEET THEM.

00:29:10.033 --> 00:29:11.700
THEY SAID, WE'RE
GOING ON A PICNIC,

00:29:11.800 --> 00:29:13.000
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO?


00:29:13.100 --> 00:29:14.233
AND I WENT, YEAH.


00:29:14.333 --> 00:29:14.934
[ LAUGHING ]


00:29:15.034 --> 00:29:16.066
WHY NOT.


00:29:16.166 --> 00:29:18.433
AND THE ANGEL, HE SAID,
YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT

00:29:18.533 --> 00:29:19.600
WITH THE MOST HIGH GOD.


00:29:19.700 --> 00:29:22.834
I SAID, WHEN I COME BACK,
WE'LL GO ON THAT PICNIC.

00:29:22.934 --> 00:29:23.967
THEY SAID, OKAY.


00:29:24.067 --> 00:29:26.800
NOW, ALL DESIRES
ARE GIVEN TO YOU.

00:29:26.900 --> 00:29:29.333
YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING TO
HEAVEN, THEY ACT ON IT.

00:29:29.433 --> 00:29:32.333
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD
SOMEBODY SAY, GLORY TO GOD.

00:29:32.433 --> 00:29:34.734
BUT WHEN YOU SAY,
GLORY TO GOD,

00:29:34.834 --> 00:29:36.700
THE ANGEL LIFTS HIS
HAND, GLORY TO GOD.

00:29:36.800 --> 00:29:38.633
SEE, TO THEM,
THAT'S A COMMAND.

00:29:38.733 --> 00:29:39.766
YOU CAN'T SING IT.


00:29:39.866 --> 00:29:40.634
HALLELUJAH.


00:29:40.734 --> 00:29:41.833
THEY'RE GOING
TO GO, HALLE.

00:29:41.933 --> 00:29:43.867
I MEAN, TO US, IT'S JUST
A WORD THAT YOU'RE FILLING IN

00:29:43.967 --> 00:29:44.633
THE LANGUAGE.


00:29:44.733 --> 00:29:45.433
NOT THERE.


00:29:45.533 --> 00:29:46.967
THAT IS A THING
THAT YOU DO.

00:29:47.067 --> 00:29:48.033
REBECCA: WOW.


00:29:48.133 --> 00:29:49.167
JESSE: IT WAS ONE OF
THE MOST AMAZING THINGS

00:29:49.267 --> 00:29:50.333
TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.


00:29:50.433 --> 00:29:53.233
SO I TELL PEOPLE,
YOU'VE JUST GOT TO GO.

00:29:53.333 --> 00:29:55.233
AND IT'S A
WONDERFUL PLACE.

00:29:55.333 --> 00:29:58.067
AND I TELL ALL
PEOPLE TO HELP.

00:29:58.167 --> 00:29:59.833
WHY SOMETIMES SOME
PEOPLE DON'T GET HEALED.

00:29:59.933 --> 00:30:02.800
THEY BELIEVE FOR GOD FOR
HEALING TO THE VERY LAST DAY

00:30:02.900 --> 00:30:06.366
BECAUSE ONCE
THEY SEE JESUS,

00:30:06.466 --> 00:30:07.766
THEY AIN'T COMING
BACK TO DALLAS.

00:30:07.866 --> 00:30:08.934
[ LAUGHING ]


00:30:09.034 --> 00:30:10.400
THEY AIN'T COMING
BACK TO ARLINGTON,

00:30:10.500 --> 00:30:11.900
THEY AIN'T COMING
BACK TO NEW ORLEANS.

00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.700
BUT THEY'RE ON
THE OTHER SIDE,

00:30:13.800 --> 00:30:15.667
THEY ARE STAYING THERE.


00:30:15.767 --> 00:30:18.366
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING
THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME.

00:30:18.466 --> 00:30:22.067
BUT I HAVE TO SAY THIS: IT
DIDN'T INCREASE MY FAITH.

00:30:22.167 --> 00:30:23.700
FAITH DON'T COME THAT WAY.


00:30:23.800 --> 00:30:24.900
SEE, FAITH COME
BY HEARING,

00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.233
AND HEARING BY
THE WORD OF GOD.

00:30:26.333 --> 00:30:30.700
WHAT IT INCREASED IN MY LIFE WAS
MY LONGING FOR JESUS TO COME.

00:30:30.800 --> 00:30:32.300
NOW, I'M GOING TO SAY
SOMETHING MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SAY,

00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:34.233
BUT I'VE
GOT TO BE HONEST.

00:30:34.333 --> 00:30:35.200
I WAS PRAYING
NOT TOO LONG AGO.

00:30:35.300 --> 00:30:37.100
I SAID, COME ON, JESUS.


00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.734
NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, JESUS
DOESN'T KNOW WHEN HE'S COMING?

00:30:39.834 --> 00:30:40.533
REBECCA: I KNOW.


00:30:40.633 --> 00:30:41.966
JESSE: DO YOU KNOW WHY?


00:30:42.066 --> 00:30:43.500
REBECCA: ONLY,
NO, I JUST KNOW --

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:44.366
JESSE: I'M
GOING TO TELL YOU.

00:30:44.466 --> 00:30:45.333
ONLY THE HEAVENLY FATHER
KNOWS WHY.

00:30:45.433 --> 00:30:47.500
BECAUSE IF JESUS KNEW,
HE WOULD TELL US.

00:30:47.600 --> 00:30:48.567
[ LAUGHING ]


00:30:48.667 --> 00:30:50.500
HE WOULD SAY, BECKY,
THURSDAY, 2:00 O'CLOCK.

00:30:50.600 --> 00:30:51.533
OKAY, WE GOT IT.


00:30:51.633 --> 00:30:53.533
ONLY THE FATHER
KNOWS THAT.

00:30:53.633 --> 00:30:55.733
AND IT'S JUST THE
MOST AMAZING THING.

00:30:55.833 --> 00:30:56.834
WELL, HE'S GOING
TO RELEASE CHRIST.

00:30:56.934 --> 00:30:59.166
HE WANTS TO SEE US MORE
THAN WE WANT TO SEE HIM.

00:30:59.266 --> 00:31:00.300
REBECCA: AW.


00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:01.800
JESSE: THAT'S AMAZING.


00:31:01.900 --> 00:31:03.334
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE
FOR ETERNITY.

00:31:03.434 --> 00:31:06.167
THERE WILL BE NO MORE
SEPARATIONS EVER.

00:31:06.267 --> 00:31:08.467
AND FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN A LONG TIME,

00:31:08.567 --> 00:31:10.700
GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON,
GOD THE HOLY GHOST,

00:31:10.800 --> 00:31:16.533
AND US WILL BE ALL
TOGETHER AS ONE.

00:31:16.633 --> 00:31:20.900
ANGELS ARE WONDERFUL,
BUT THEY'RE SERVANTS.

00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.933
BECKY IS FAMILY.


00:31:23.033 --> 00:31:24.033
SHE'S A DAUGHTER.


00:31:24.133 --> 00:31:24.933
WE'RE SONS.


00:31:25.033 --> 00:31:25.700
DAUGHTERS.


00:31:25.800 --> 00:31:27.433
YOU'RE IN THE FAMILY.


00:31:27.533 --> 00:31:28.500
DO YOU SEE WHAT
I'M SAYING?

00:31:28.600 --> 00:31:30.867
YOU BELONG TO THE FAMILY.


00:31:30.967 --> 00:31:32.300
AND THAT'S WHAT
I'M TALKING ABOUT.

00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.066
AND WHEN YOU
UNDERSTAND THAT,

00:31:34.166 --> 00:31:37.500
THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST
AMAZING THINGS IN THE WORLD.

00:31:37.600 --> 00:31:39.466
AND THAT'S WHY,
WHEN THE ANGELS,

00:31:39.566 --> 00:31:42.667
THEY JUST LOVE YOU,
THEY'RE MORE INTERESTED IN YOU

00:31:42.767 --> 00:31:44.600
THAN YOU ARE IN THEM.


00:31:44.700 --> 00:31:46.400
BECAUSE WHEN GOD SAID,
LET US MAKE MAN, THEY SAID,

00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:48.533
WHAT'S A MAN?


00:31:48.633 --> 00:31:51.867
AND THEN GOD SAID, LET'S
MAKE HIM IN OUR IMAGE

00:31:51.967 --> 00:31:54.733
AND GIVE THEM DOMINION OVER
ALL THE WORKS OF OUR HAND.

00:31:54.833 --> 00:31:56.566
ARE ANGELS
THE WORKS OF GOD'S HAND?

00:31:56.666 --> 00:31:57.567
YEAH.


00:31:57.667 --> 00:31:59.700
YOU'VE GOT
DOMINION OVER THAT.

00:31:59.800 --> 00:32:03.067
THAT'S AMAZING TO ME.


00:32:03.167 --> 00:32:05.800
WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN
SIT DOWN IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD.

00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:07.634
MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL
CANNOT.

00:32:07.734 --> 00:32:08.934
GABRIEL CANNOT.


00:32:09.034 --> 00:32:11.700
THE SERAPHIMS, THE CHERUBIMS,
THE ARCHANGELS, THEY CANNOT.

00:32:11.800 --> 00:32:15.834
BUT YOU, BECKY, CAN SIT
DOWN AT THE THRONE.

00:32:15.934 --> 00:32:16.700
HE MADE YOU SIT.


00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:17.800
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT?


00:32:17.900 --> 00:32:19.134
YOU'RE FAMILY.


00:32:19.234 --> 00:32:20.934
YOU'RE LA FAMIGLIA.


00:32:21.034 --> 00:32:23.233
HE MADE US AN OFFER
WE COULDN'T REFUSE.

00:32:23.333 --> 00:32:24.800
[ LAUGHING ]


00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:26.400
IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.


00:32:26.500 --> 00:32:27.533
REBECCA: I LOVE IT.


00:32:27.633 --> 00:32:31.567
JESSE: AND THAT'S HOW I
TELL PEOPLE ABOUT CHRIST.

00:32:31.667 --> 00:32:33.200
AND IT'S THE MOST
WONDERFUL THING IN THE WORLD.

00:32:33.300 --> 00:32:36.000
THIS IS NOT RELIGION,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

00:32:36.100 --> 00:32:37.967
RELIGION'S A
GARDEN OF WEEDS.

00:32:38.067 --> 00:32:40.400
THAT'S A THEOLOGICAL
WILDERNESS THERE, BUDDY.

00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:41.467
THIS IS PERSONAL.


00:32:41.567 --> 00:32:42.700
JESUS IS NOT A RELIGION.


00:32:42.800 --> 00:32:45.000
HE'S A PERSON.


00:32:45.100 --> 00:32:47.333
SEE, AND WHY DID HE COME?


00:32:47.433 --> 00:32:48.367
TO SAVE YOU?


00:32:48.467 --> 00:32:50.200
NO, HE DID THAT
WHILE HE WAS HERE,

00:32:50.300 --> 00:32:53.000
THAT YOU MIGHT
KNOW THE FATHER.

00:32:53.100 --> 00:32:54.600
THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS.


00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:56.533
WHY WAS HE SO SUCCESSFUL?


00:32:56.633 --> 00:32:57.500
BECAUSE HE WAS JESUS?


00:32:57.600 --> 00:32:58.800
NO.


00:32:58.900 --> 00:33:02.500
BECAUSE HE SAID THIS: I
ONLY SAY WHAT MY FATHER SAYS

00:33:02.600 --> 00:33:05.400
AND I'LL ONLY DO WHAT
MY FATHER SAYS TO DO.

00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:08.266
WELL, YOU CAN CRITICIZE
ME ALL YOU WANT,

00:33:08.366 --> 00:33:11.634
I'M ONLY GOING TO SAY
WHAT THE FATHER SAYS,

00:33:11.734 --> 00:33:14.233
AND I'M ONLY GOING TO DO
WHAT THE FATHER SAYS TO DO.

00:33:14.333 --> 00:33:16.767
REBECCA: YOU WANT HIS
RETURN MORE THAN ANYTHING.

00:33:16.867 --> 00:33:17.933
YOU DON'T WANT TO
SET UP SHOP HERE.

00:33:18.033 --> 00:33:18.833
YOU'RE NOT CARNAL.


00:33:18.933 --> 00:33:19.700
JESSE: NO.


00:33:19.800 --> 00:33:20.733
REBECCA:
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

00:33:20.833 --> 00:33:22.400
JESSE: I CAN'T WAIT
UNTIL I GET TO HEAVEN.

00:33:22.500 --> 00:33:23.333
REBECCA: ME TOO.


00:33:23.433 --> 00:33:25.033
JESSE: BECAUSE,
AND THE REASON WHY,

00:33:25.133 --> 00:33:26.467
YOU KNOW IT'S THE
FIRST THING I'M GOING TO SAY,

00:33:26.567 --> 00:33:27.633
WHAT'S MY ASSIGNMENT?


00:33:27.733 --> 00:33:29.000
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:33:29.100 --> 00:33:30.300
JESSE: WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE
LAYING AROUND ON THE GROUND

00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.300
AND ANGELS DROPPING
GRAPES IN OUR MOUTH.

00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.000
SEE, SOME PEOPLE
COME AND THINK THAT.

00:33:34.100 --> 00:33:35.400
THE BEST WAY I CAN
DESCRIBE HEAVEN

00:33:35.500 --> 00:33:37.933
AND IN TERMS OF WHAT'S GOING ON,
IT'S LIKE AN ECONOMY.

00:33:38.033 --> 00:33:39.367
IT'S A PLACE OF WORK.


00:33:39.467 --> 00:33:41.100
IT'S BUSTLING.


00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.867
GOD IS STILL CREATING.


00:33:42.967 --> 00:33:46.734
RIGHT NOW, THE UNIVERSE IS
EXPANDING FASTER

00:33:46.834 --> 00:33:47.834
THAN THE
SPEED OF LIGHT.

00:33:47.934 --> 00:33:48.600
YOU KNOW WHY?


00:33:48.700 --> 00:33:50.067
THAT'S GOD CREATING.


00:33:50.167 --> 00:33:51.667
HE'S A CREATOR.


00:33:51.767 --> 00:33:54.100
REBECCA: I CAN'T EVEN
REALLY FATHOM THAT.

00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.700
JESSE: WELL,
IT'S BEYOND HUMAN COMPREHENSION.

00:33:56.800 --> 00:33:58.033
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.


00:33:58.133 --> 00:34:00.333
SEE, YOU CAN GET SO
SMART THAT YOU GET DUMB.

00:34:00.433 --> 00:34:01.600
REBECCA: THAT'S TRUE.


00:34:01.700 --> 00:34:03.067
JESSE: AND I'VE SEEN
THAT WITH SCIENTISTS.

00:34:03.167 --> 00:34:04.867
I'VE TALKED TO SOME
VERY BRILLIANT PEOPLE.

00:34:04.967 --> 00:34:06.333
WELL, I DON'T
BELIEVE IN GOD.

00:34:06.433 --> 00:34:09.334
I SAID, WELL, THAT
DON'T CHANGE IT.

00:34:09.434 --> 00:34:11.434
WELL, YOU'VE GOT
TO GIVE ME FACT.

00:34:11.534 --> 00:34:13.733
I SAID, FAITH IS ACTUALLY
STRONGER THAN FACT.

00:34:13.833 --> 00:34:15.367
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:34:15.467 --> 00:34:16.734
JESSE: IT REALLY IS.


00:34:16.834 --> 00:34:21.334
ONE OF THE GREATEST, ONE OF THE
MOST BLESSED STATES TO LIVE IN

00:34:21.434 --> 00:34:23.867
IS TO LIVE IN SOMETHING --
IS TO LIVE BY FAITH

00:34:23.967 --> 00:34:26.166
ON THINGS
YOU CAN'T SEE.

00:34:26.266 --> 00:34:29.600
BECAUSE IT WILL BRING FORTH
STUFF THAT YOU CAN SEE.

00:34:29.700 --> 00:34:31.567
IF YOU THINK ABOUT
FIFTY YEARS AGO,

00:34:31.667 --> 00:34:34.300
BECAUSE YOU'RE
NOT THAT OLD,

00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.667
WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY,
IF WE WOULD HAVE TOLD

00:34:36.767 --> 00:34:37.867
THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED
FIFTY YEARS AGO,

00:34:37.967 --> 00:34:39.266
YOU DONE LOST YOUR MIND.


00:34:39.366 --> 00:34:43.300
YOU CAN CARRY THE WORLD
AROUND IN YOUR CELL PHONE.

00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:44.634
THINK ABOUT THAT.


00:34:44.734 --> 00:34:47.600
YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE LIBRARY
OF CONGRESS IN THAT CELL PHONE.

00:34:47.700 --> 00:34:50.200
WHOEVER THOUGHT THAT A PHONE
COULD TAKE A BETTER PICTURE

00:34:50.300 --> 00:34:52.000
THAN THE CAMERAS
WHEN WE USED TO HAVE TO GO

00:34:52.100 --> 00:34:54.233
TO THE PHOTOGRAPHER'S
WAY BACK WHEN.

00:34:54.333 --> 00:34:58.533
IT'S AMAZING HOW WE CAN
TALK TO THE WORLD, THE INTERNET.

00:34:58.633 --> 00:34:59.167
THINK ABOUT THAT.


00:34:59.267 --> 00:35:01.334
SOCIAL MEDIA.


00:35:01.434 --> 00:35:04.400
TWENTY YEARS AGO, YOU
DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

00:35:04.500 --> 00:35:06.034
THAT'S AMAZING TO ME.


00:35:06.134 --> 00:35:07.267
AND SEE.


00:35:07.367 --> 00:35:11.267
BUT WHEN WE GET TO HEAVEN,
THIS TECHNOLOGY, MM, MM, MM,

00:35:11.367 --> 00:35:12.867
IT'S GOING
TO BE AMAZING.

00:35:12.967 --> 00:35:13.666
I'M JUST SAYING.


00:35:13.766 --> 00:35:15.200
LORD, I'M YOURS
TO COMMAND.

00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:16.634
COMMAND YE ME.


00:35:16.734 --> 00:35:18.233
AND I'LL DO IT.


00:35:18.333 --> 00:35:19.600
IT'S COMING.


00:35:19.700 --> 00:35:21.734
AND IT'S COMING
SOONER THAN WE THINK.

00:35:21.834 --> 00:35:22.700
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.367
I WANT YOU TO TALK
ABOUT THE THRONE ROOM.

00:35:26.467 --> 00:35:29.366
JESSE: THE THRONE, IT'S
A ROOM, BUT IT'S SO BIG.

00:35:29.466 --> 00:35:31.367
IT'S FIFTEEN HUNDRED
MILES HIGH.

00:35:31.467 --> 00:35:33.234
WHEN THE ANGELS WERE
FLYING AROUND IT,

00:35:33.334 --> 00:35:36.334
THAT'S THE SERAPHIMS,
ARCHANGELS, WHOO.

00:35:36.434 --> 00:35:40.367
AND THEY SAID, GO,
HOLY, HOLY, HOLY.

00:35:40.467 --> 00:35:41.867
THE GREAT GOD JEHOVAH.


00:35:41.967 --> 00:35:44.333
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, YOU
KNOW WHY THEY SAY THAT,

00:35:44.433 --> 00:35:45.900
AND JERRY SAVELLE
LOVES THIS, HE SAID,

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.133
I LOVE WHEN YOU SAY THAT.


00:35:47.233 --> 00:35:49.033
BECAUSE EVERY TIME THEY
MAKE THAT CIRCLE, NOW,

00:35:49.133 --> 00:35:50.733
THEY'VE BEEN DOING
THIS FOR TRILLIONS,

00:35:50.833 --> 00:35:54.700
QUATRILLIONS, YEARS JUST
BEYOND HUMAN REASON,

00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.633
EVERY TIME THEY MAKE THAT
CIRCLE, THEY LOOK DOWN,

00:35:57.733 --> 00:36:01.767
THEY SEE A SIDE OF GOD
THEY'VE NEVER SEEN.

00:36:01.867 --> 00:36:09.367
AND IT EXPLODES IN
SUCH MIGHT, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY.

00:36:09.467 --> 00:36:11.300
THEY'RE STILL DOING THAT.


00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:12.867
THAT THRONE IS SOMETHING.


00:36:12.967 --> 00:36:15.800
EVERYONE IN HEAVEN,
YOU'VE GOT PARADISE,

00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:18.633
THE NEW JERUSALEM,
AND THE THRONE.

00:36:18.733 --> 00:36:22.467
EVERYONE WANTS TO
GET TO THAT THRONE.

00:36:22.567 --> 00:36:25.300
YOU'VE GOT TO PASS THROUGH
THE FRAGRANCE OF GOD.

00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.667
I KEPT GOING, WHAT'S
THAT WONDERFUL SMELL?

00:36:28.767 --> 00:36:29.800
GOOD GOD.


00:36:29.900 --> 00:36:32.700
AND THAT ANGEL SAID,
THAT'S THE FRAGRANCE OF GOD.

00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.633
IT PERMEATES EVERYTHING.


00:36:34.733 --> 00:36:37.300
AND THE ONLY TIME I'VE
EVER SMELLED IT ON THE EARTH

00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.567
IS WHEN I GET INTO A
REAL DEEP HOLY GHOST TIME,

00:36:42.667 --> 00:36:46.467
ALL OF A SUDDEN, I GO,
MY GOD, THAT SMELL.

00:36:46.567 --> 00:36:49.000
AND I WISH I COULD
EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.

00:36:49.100 --> 00:36:51.633
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU
HOW GOD KEEPS SECRETS.

00:36:51.733 --> 00:36:52.933
I WANT EVERYBODY
TO LISTEN HERE.

00:36:53.033 --> 00:36:54.233
YOU IN THE
PODCAST, LISTEN.

00:36:54.333 --> 00:36:55.500
OKAY.


00:36:55.600 --> 00:36:56.334
WHAT IS THIS?


00:36:56.434 --> 00:36:58.533
THIS IS A CUP,
AM I CORRECT?

00:36:58.633 --> 00:37:00.433
C-U-P, CUP, RIGHT.


00:37:00.533 --> 00:37:01.800
OKAY.


00:37:01.900 --> 00:37:07.666
IF THERE WAS NO SUCH WORD IN THE
ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR ANY LANGUAGE

00:37:07.766 --> 00:37:13.767
TO DESCRIBE THIS, TO SAY
WHAT IT IS, WHAT IS THIS?

00:37:13.867 --> 00:37:17.533
YOU WOULD GO, YOU
KNOW WHAT IT IS,

00:37:17.633 --> 00:37:19.000
BUT YOU CAN'T SPEAK IT.


00:37:19.100 --> 00:37:21.400
I GOT SO IRRITATED WHEN I
READ THE BOOK OF DANIEL

00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:23.567
AND GOD SAID,
SEAL UP THE SUM.

00:37:23.667 --> 00:37:26.566
NO, NO, NO, DON'T DO THAT.


00:37:26.666 --> 00:37:30.466
SO HE PUT IT TO WHERE HE
TOOK ALL LANGUAGE OUT

00:37:30.566 --> 00:37:34.533
TO DESCRIBE THIS, AND THAT'S
HOW GOD KEEPS SECRETS.

00:37:34.633 --> 00:37:36.166
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
ONE DAY YOU LOOK AT IT,

00:37:36.266 --> 00:37:38.467
YOU HAVE NO IDEA, YOU KNOW
WHAT IT IS BUT YOU CAN'T SAY IT

00:37:38.567 --> 00:37:39.600
BECAUSE
THERE'S NO SUCH WORD.

00:37:39.700 --> 00:37:41.300
AND GOD WILL
REVEAL TO YOU, CUP.

00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:42.866
OH, THIS IS A CUP.


00:37:42.966 --> 00:37:44.733
AND HE'LL GIVE YOU
ANOTHER WORD TO IT.

00:37:44.833 --> 00:37:45.733
MUG.


00:37:45.833 --> 00:37:47.534
WHAT DO YOU WANT?


00:37:47.634 --> 00:37:53.633
KATHY LIKES TO DRINK OUT OF
A FINE THIN NICE CUP AND SAUCER.

00:37:53.733 --> 00:37:54.766
NOW, AND SHE LIKES THAT.


00:37:54.866 --> 00:37:58.367
BUT WHEN SHE WANTS TO
HAVE HER MORNING COFFEE,

00:37:58.467 --> 00:37:59.267
SHE WANTS A CUP.


00:37:59.367 --> 00:38:00.467
WHY?


00:38:00.567 --> 00:38:02.734
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT MORE
COFFEE IN A MUG IN A CUP

00:38:02.834 --> 00:38:06.034
THAN IN A BEAUTIFUL
FINE PIECE OF CHINA.

00:38:06.134 --> 00:38:06.933
YOU SEE WHAT I'M
TRYING TO SAY?

00:38:07.033 --> 00:38:08.900
SO THAT'S HOW GOD
KEEPS SECRETS.

00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.367
THERE'S NO LANGUAGE.


00:38:10.467 --> 00:38:11.700
I LEARNED THAT IN HEAVEN.


00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:13.334
I SAID, THAT'S
HOW YOU DO THAT.

00:38:13.434 --> 00:38:14.900
YEAH, HE SAID, IF I
TAKE THE WORDS OUT,

00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:16.567
YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT IT IS.


00:38:16.734 --> 00:38:17.900
REBECCA: BECAUSE WE'RE
NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW YET.

00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.166
JESSE: THE
TIME IS NOT YET.

00:38:19.266 --> 00:38:21.033
THERE'S SOME THINGS
YOUR BOYS ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW

00:38:21.133 --> 00:38:22.934
UNTIL LATER.


00:38:23.034 --> 00:38:24.334
THERE'S GOING TO
BE A SIT-DOWN,

00:38:24.434 --> 00:38:25.666
THERE'S GOING
TO BE SOMETHING.

00:38:25.766 --> 00:38:27.066
YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND
WILL GET TOGETHER,

00:38:27.166 --> 00:38:27.933
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME
THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO

00:38:28.033 --> 00:38:29.466
HAVE TO TELL THEM,
A FEW THINGS.

00:38:29.566 --> 00:38:30.833
THEY MAY NOT
KNOW THAT NOW.

00:38:30.933 --> 00:38:31.834
REBECCA: THERE'S A LOT
THEY DON'T KNOW.

00:38:31.934 --> 00:38:32.867
JESSE: A LOT THAT
THEY DON'T KNOW.

00:38:32.967 --> 00:38:34.367
BUT ONE DAY THEY'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW.

00:38:34.467 --> 00:38:36.266
SEE, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU
EXPLAIN THAT TODAY,

00:38:36.366 --> 00:38:37.566
THEY'VE GOT NO IDEA WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

00:38:37.666 --> 00:38:38.934
OVER HERE, WELL,
IT'S THE SAME WAY.

00:38:39.034 --> 00:38:41.267
THEY'RE NOT ABLE
TO RECEIVE IT.

00:38:41.367 --> 00:38:42.233
THAT'S ONE THING
I LOVE ABOUT GOD,

00:38:42.333 --> 00:38:44.467
HE DOESN'T WASTE WORDS.


00:38:44.567 --> 00:38:46.034
WORDS ARE CONTAINERS.


00:38:46.134 --> 00:38:48.433
THEY'RE VESSELS, THEY
CARRY YOUR FUTURE,

00:38:48.533 --> 00:38:50.833
THEY CARRY YOUR DESTINY
AND YOUR DESTINATION.

00:38:50.933 --> 00:38:54.934
BUT THE DAY WILL COME WHEN
REBECCA WILL SAY, SIT DOWN, BOY.

00:38:55.034 --> 00:38:56.667
I WANT TO TELL
YOU SOMETHING.

00:38:56.767 --> 00:38:59.000
AND YOU'LL BEGIN TO REVEAL
SOMETHING, AND THEY'LL GO,

00:38:59.100 --> 00:39:00.833
OH, MOM, WOW.


00:39:00.933 --> 00:39:03.433
AND YOU'LL SEE THE
LIGHT GO ON IN THEM.

00:39:03.533 --> 00:39:05.066
YET YOU COULD HAVE TOLD
THEM ALL THOSE YEARS AGO,

00:39:05.166 --> 00:39:07.734
BUT IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN A WASTE OF WORDS.

00:39:07.834 --> 00:39:08.667
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?


00:39:08.767 --> 00:39:09.700
THAT'S MY POINT.


00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:12.533
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A
COMPLETE WASTE OF WORDS.

00:39:12.633 --> 00:39:14.700
BUT WHEN YOU CAN HAVE
THAT, THOSE DISCUSSIONS,

00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.000
YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND.


00:39:16.100 --> 00:39:19.133
AND YOU MAY HAVE A DISCUSSION
WITH THEM AFTER THEY GOT MARRIED

00:39:19.233 --> 00:39:20.400
AND HAVE
THEIR CHILDREN

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:21.767
AND YOU'RE
GOING TO TELL THEM.

00:39:21.867 --> 00:39:23.266
LISTEN TO YOUR MAMA.


00:39:23.366 --> 00:39:24.400
LET ME TELL
YOU ABOUT THIS.

00:39:24.500 --> 00:39:25.967
OH, MAMA, NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

00:39:26.067 --> 00:39:28.233
SEE, SO WE'RE
EVERLEARNING.

00:39:28.333 --> 00:39:30.067
AND THAT'S WHAT I
LOVE ABOUT THE LORD.

00:39:30.167 --> 00:39:31.900
NEVER BORING.


00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.400
ALWAYS SOMETHING NEW.


00:39:34.500 --> 00:39:35.633
ALWAYS SOMETHING TO LEARN.


00:39:35.733 --> 00:39:37.334
BUT NOT IN A HARD WAY.


00:39:37.434 --> 00:39:38.500
IN THIS KIND OF WAY.


00:39:38.600 --> 00:39:40.134
WOW, MAN.


00:39:40.234 --> 00:39:41.667
THANK YOU FOR
TELLING ME THAT,

00:39:41.767 --> 00:39:43.800
I DIDN'T KNOW
THAT EXISTED.

00:39:43.900 --> 00:39:45.600
AND IT'S COMING.


00:39:45.700 --> 00:39:48.233
REBECCA: SO GOD THE FATHER'S
ON THE THRONE?

00:39:48.333 --> 00:39:49.500
JESSE: YES.


00:39:49.600 --> 00:39:50.567
REBECCA: COULD
YOU SEE HIM?

00:39:50.667 --> 00:39:51.533
PROBABLY, HUH?


00:39:51.633 --> 00:39:53.666
JESSE: YEAH, I SAW
HIM AND I SAW JESUS.

00:39:53.766 --> 00:39:55.367
WHAT HAPPENED, I
COULDN'T STAND UP,

00:39:55.467 --> 00:39:56.867
I JUST HIT THE GROUND.


00:39:56.967 --> 00:39:59.167
AND THIS ANGEL GAVE ME
A PIECE OF FRUIT

00:39:59.267 --> 00:40:03.367
ABOUT THE SIZE OF AN APRICOT AND
I WENT, OH, ABOUT THIS BIG.

00:40:03.467 --> 00:40:07.900
HE SAID, EAT THIS SO YOU
CAN WITHSTAND THE GLORY OF GOD.

00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:09.567
AND THAT'S WHY I KNEW
I WAS IN MY BODY.

00:40:09.667 --> 00:40:12.267
IF I WAS IN MY
SPIRIT, I COULD STAND.

00:40:12.367 --> 00:40:13.934
I BIT THE DUST, MAN.


00:40:14.034 --> 00:40:17.166
I HAD TO FALL DOWN,
MAN, YOU JUST CAN'T.

00:40:17.266 --> 00:40:20.000
AND I ATE THAT, AND IT WAS
VERY JUICY, AND I WENT,

00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:23.600
I COULD FEEL STRENGTH
COMING BACK.

00:40:23.700 --> 00:40:25.067
AND I SAW THE FATHER GOD.


00:40:25.167 --> 00:40:26.800
AND HE SOUNDED LIKE THIS
-- I DON'T MEAN THIS TO

00:40:26.900 --> 00:40:30.633
MESS UP THIS
MICROPHONE, WHOO, WHOO.

00:40:30.733 --> 00:40:34.234
MORE LIKE IF HE JUST MOVED,
ANNIHILATION, EVERYTHING.

00:40:34.334 --> 00:40:38.100
AND I SAW, LOOK AT MY FINGER
IF YOU CAN GET A SHOT OF THIS.

00:40:38.200 --> 00:40:40.134
AND HE DID THIS.


00:40:40.234 --> 00:40:42.200
KNOCKED ONE OF THEM
BIG ANGELS --

00:40:42.300 --> 00:40:44.167
THEY'RE ABOUT THIRTY FEET TALL,
THEM SERAPHIMS,

00:40:44.267 --> 00:40:46.333
THEY'RE HUGE --
BAM, HIT THE WALL.

00:40:46.433 --> 00:40:49.233
IF GOD THE FATHER
MOVES, ANNIHILATION.

00:40:49.333 --> 00:40:50.267
POWER.


00:40:50.367 --> 00:40:53.233
NOW, OUT OF THAT SMOKE,
OUT OF THAT POWER,

00:40:53.333 --> 00:40:58.300
COMES JESUS IN HUMAN FORM
THAT YOU CAN HUG HIM.

00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:59.033
REBECCA:
OH, MY GOODNESS.

00:40:59.133 --> 00:41:00.333
JESSE: SEE
GOD IS SPIRIT,

00:41:00.433 --> 00:41:01.300
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.


00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:03.100
SO YOU CAN HUG HIM,
YOU CAN TOUCH HIM.

00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:04.834
AND HE CAME OUT.


00:41:04.934 --> 00:41:07.133
AND HE STARTED PREACHING,
THIS SEEMED LIKE MILLIONS

00:41:07.233 --> 00:41:08.334
AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.


00:41:08.434 --> 00:41:09.366
HOW THEY FIT,
I DON'T KNOW.

00:41:09.466 --> 00:41:11.167
NOW, GO AND GET
YOUR BROTHERS,

00:41:11.267 --> 00:41:12.534
I'M GOING TO GET
YOUR SISTERS.

00:41:12.634 --> 00:41:14.167
AND I THOUGHT,
HE'S NOT A TEACHER.

00:41:14.267 --> 00:41:15.267
HE'S A PREACHER.


00:41:15.367 --> 00:41:16.967
AND I THOUGHT ABOUT
R.W. SCHAMBACH.

00:41:17.067 --> 00:41:19.500
I SAID, MY GOD, YOU
PREACH LIKE SCHAMBACH.

00:41:19.600 --> 00:41:20.867
JUST SCREAMING.


00:41:20.967 --> 00:41:23.233
BUT I NOTICE HE COULDN'T STAY
AWAY FROM THE FATHER VERY LONG.

00:41:23.333 --> 00:41:26.867
AND HE WOULD STOP AND HE'D
TURN AND HE'D DO THIS.

00:41:26.967 --> 00:41:29.700
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STAY
APART LONG ANYMORE.

00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.300
SO HE WALKS BACK
INTO THAT SMOKE.

00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.267
THEY ARE THREE, BUT
YET THEY'RE ONE.

00:41:35.367 --> 00:41:36.167
THAT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND.


00:41:36.267 --> 00:41:38.100
I AM THREE YET I'M ONE.


00:41:38.200 --> 00:41:40.300
I HAVE A SPIRIT HOUSING
THE SOUL IN THE BODY.

00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:41.833
HE GOES BACK
INTO THAT SMOKE.

00:41:41.933 --> 00:41:45.633
SO HE LOSES THAT HUMAN
FORM THAT YOU CAN HOLD,

00:41:45.733 --> 00:41:48.500
AND HE'S GOD ALMIGHTY.


00:41:48.600 --> 00:41:50.900
SEE, AND THAT'S
WHEN I ASKED THAT,

00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:52.900
I WAS TELLING YOUR MOM, I
THINK IT WAS ON TABLE TALK

00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:56.300
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
ONE OF THE DUMBEST

00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:59.367
AND STUPIDEST QUESTIONS
I'VE ASKED,

00:41:59.467 --> 00:42:02.100
I'M LAYING ON THE FLOOR,
JUST ABOUT KNOCKED OUT,

00:42:02.200 --> 00:42:04.200
AND I COULD SEE THE FATHER,
I KNOW THAT IMAGE,

00:42:04.300 --> 00:42:06.866
I COULD SEE THE SON, AND
I ASKED THIS, I SAID,

00:42:06.966 --> 00:42:08.167
I TALKED TO THE
ANGEL, I SAID,

00:42:08.267 --> 00:42:10.233
WHERE'S THE HOLY SPIRIT?


00:42:10.333 --> 00:42:12.733
AND HE SAID,
HE'S ON THE EARTH.

00:42:12.833 --> 00:42:14.300
I SAID, OH, YEAH, I
KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT.

00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:15.366
[ CHUCKLES ]


00:42:15.466 --> 00:42:17.033
I FELT SO STUPID, YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

00:42:17.133 --> 00:42:21.666
BUT ONE DAY, SEE, RIGHT NOW,
GOD IS NOT COMPLETE.

00:42:21.766 --> 00:42:23.466
BECAUSE THE
HOLY SPIRIT'S HERE.

00:42:23.566 --> 00:42:25.900
BUT ONE DAY, HE
WILL BE COMPLETE.

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:26.867
GOD THE FATHER,
GOD THE SON,

00:42:26.967 --> 00:42:27.800
AND GOD THE HOLY GHOST.


00:42:27.900 --> 00:42:29.933
AND THEN THE LORD
CORRECTED ME.

00:42:30.033 --> 00:42:31.033
THIS WAS SEVERAL
YEARS AGO.

00:42:31.133 --> 00:42:33.034
HE SAID, I'M NOT COMPLETE
WHEN I'M GOD THE FATHER,

00:42:33.134 --> 00:42:35.000
GOD THE SON, AND
GOD THE HOLY GHOST.

00:42:35.100 --> 00:42:36.100
I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN?


00:42:36.200 --> 00:42:38.267
HE SAID, I'M COMPLETE
WHEN HE'S GOD THE FATHER,

00:42:38.367 --> 00:42:42.100
GOD THE SON, GOD THE
HOLY GHOST AND MANKIND.

00:42:42.200 --> 00:42:43.933
BECAUSE YOU'RE
MADE IN MY IMAGE.

00:42:44.033 --> 00:42:44.733
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:42:44.867 --> 00:42:46.900
JESSE: AND WHERE
DOES CHRIST LIVE?

00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:48.100
CHRIST IN YOU.


00:42:48.200 --> 00:42:48.933
REBECCA: HOPE OF GLORY.


00:42:49.033 --> 00:42:50.700
JESSE: YEAH,
RIGHT HERE.

00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:52.567
THAT'S WHY HE'S
SO ACCESSIBLE.

00:42:52.667 --> 00:42:55.300
HE'S JUST RIGHT THERE,
YOU'VE JUST GOT HIM,

00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:56.033
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.


00:42:56.133 --> 00:42:57.466
SO HE'S NOT COMPLETE.


00:42:57.566 --> 00:43:00.300
THAT'S WHY WE CAN
SIT DOWN IN HIS PRESENCE.

00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.467
I DON'T DOUBT IF YOUR THREE
YEAR OLD OR THREE AND A HALF,

00:43:02.567 --> 00:43:03.733
HE COMES IN
AND HE SEES MAMA,

00:43:03.833 --> 00:43:05.100
HE DON'T CARE IF
WE'RE DOING THE SHOW.

00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:06.634
HE COMES RUNNING
TOWARDS YOU, RIGHT.

00:43:06.734 --> 00:43:08.233
HE HAS A RIGHT.


00:43:08.333 --> 00:43:10.000
YOU'RE MAMA.


00:43:10.100 --> 00:43:11.333
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?


00:43:11.433 --> 00:43:13.366
YOU MAY TRY, CATCH HIM,
CATCH HIM BEFORE HE GETS HERE.

00:43:13.466 --> 00:43:14.466
BUT THEN IF HE
GETS TOO CLOSE,

00:43:14.566 --> 00:43:16.267
YOU'RE GOING TO
PICK HIM UP, SEE.

00:43:16.367 --> 00:43:18.033
AND SAY, MAMA'S DOING SOMETHING
OR DADDY'S DOING SOMETHING,

00:43:18.133 --> 00:43:19.334
YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING?

00:43:19.434 --> 00:43:22.967
SO Y'ALL ARE NOT -- YOU AND
YOUR HUSBAND ARE NOT COMPLETE

00:43:23.067 --> 00:43:24.267
UNLESS YOU'VE
GOT ALL YOUR CHILDREN.

00:43:24.367 --> 00:43:25.433
REBECCA: MM-HM.


00:43:25.533 --> 00:43:28.333
JESSE: BECAUSE YOU'RE
MADE FROM EACH OTHER.

00:43:28.433 --> 00:43:30.667
WELL, WE'VE BEEN
MADE BY GOD.

00:43:30.767 --> 00:43:32.134
NOW, YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.


00:43:32.234 --> 00:43:34.300
THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.


00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.133
SO WHY WOULD YOU HATE
ANYBODY OF ANY COLOR,

00:43:38.233 --> 00:43:42.566
NATIONALITY, OR CREED,
WHEN GOD MADE THEM?

00:43:42.666 --> 00:43:47.000
WELL, IF HE LOVES
PEOPLE, I LOVE PEOPLE.

00:43:47.100 --> 00:43:49.233
I DON'T WANT TO SEE NO COLOR,
NATIONALITY, OR CREED.

00:43:49.333 --> 00:43:50.800
I DON'T CARE
ABOUT ANY OF THAT.

00:43:50.900 --> 00:43:53.900
I JUST LOVE PEOPLE.


00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:54.600
WHY?


00:43:54.700 --> 00:43:56.033
BECAUSE THEY'RE PEOPLE.


00:43:56.133 --> 00:43:57.467
IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.


00:43:57.567 --> 00:44:00.833
AND THAT'S WHAT GOD IS:
A FATHER AND HIS FAMILY.

00:44:00.933 --> 00:44:02.500
JUST THAT SIMPLE.


00:44:02.600 --> 00:44:05.467
DON'T COMPLICATE THAT IF
YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS.

00:44:05.567 --> 00:44:06.400
DON'T COMPLICATE IT.


00:44:06.500 --> 00:44:07.833
IT'S SO SIMPLE.


00:44:07.933 --> 00:44:09.334
I'VE SAID THIS, I BELIEVE,
IN ALL THE OTHER SHOWS

00:44:09.434 --> 00:44:11.400
I'VE EVER SAID: CHILDREN
ARE BORN BELIEVERS

00:44:11.500 --> 00:44:14.467
UNTIL YOU
TEACH THEM TO DOUBT.

00:44:14.567 --> 00:44:15.567
THEY KNOW
NOTHING OF DOUBT.

00:44:15.667 --> 00:44:16.433
REBECCA:
NO, THEY DON'T.

00:44:16.533 --> 00:44:18.133
JESSE: UNTIL
YOU TEACH THEM.

00:44:18.233 --> 00:44:20.067
SO DON'T.


00:44:20.167 --> 00:44:22.367
I CAN STOP
PREJUDICE TODAY,

00:44:22.467 --> 00:44:25.533
EVERYBODY LISTEN TO ME,
SHUT IT DOWN TODAY.

00:44:25.633 --> 00:44:26.600
YOU READY?


00:44:26.700 --> 00:44:27.833
LISTEN TO ME.


00:44:27.933 --> 00:44:30.233
DON'T TELL YOUR
CHILDREN THEY'RE WHITE.

00:44:30.333 --> 00:44:32.033
DON'T TELL THEM
THEY'RE BLACK.

00:44:32.133 --> 00:44:33.867
DON'T TELL THEM
THEY'RE BROWN.

00:44:33.967 --> 00:44:35.500
DON'T TELL THEM
THEY'RE YELLOW.

00:44:35.600 --> 00:44:37.100
DON'T TELL THEM
THEY'RE RED.

00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:38.967
DON'T SAY ANY OF THAT.


00:44:39.067 --> 00:44:40.234
THEY'RE PEOPLE.


00:44:40.334 --> 00:44:40.900
YOU SEE.


00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:41.700
THEY WON'T KNOW.


00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:42.534
WE WANT ME TO
PROVE IT TO YOU?

00:44:42.634 --> 00:44:44.133
GO TO THE NURSERIES.


00:44:44.233 --> 00:44:46.600
YOU SEE THESE
CHILDREN PLAYING, HA,

00:44:46.700 --> 00:44:49.333
AND SOME ARE BLACK, SOME
ARE BROWN, SOME ARE RED.

00:44:49.433 --> 00:44:50.834
THEY DON'T KNOW
NOTHING ABOUT THAT.

00:44:50.934 --> 00:44:52.233
THEY'RE FRIENDS.


00:44:52.333 --> 00:44:53.933
THAT'S HOW EASY THAT IS.


00:44:54.033 --> 00:44:56.800
YOU NEVER -- EVERYONE
NEEDS TO LOSE THEIR COLOR,

00:44:56.900 --> 00:44:58.633
BUT NOT THEIR CULTURE.


00:44:58.733 --> 00:45:00.833
YOUR COLOR DON'T
MAKE YOU WHO YOU ARE.

00:45:00.933 --> 00:45:03.600
IT'S YOUR CULTURE THAT
MAKES YOU WHO YOU ARE.

00:45:03.700 --> 00:45:05.167
THAT'S WHY I
JUST LOVE PEOPLE.

00:45:05.267 --> 00:45:06.467
SO I DON'T SEE
NO DIFFERENCE.

00:45:06.567 --> 00:45:07.500
IT DON'T MAKE NO
DIFFERENCE TO ME.

00:45:07.600 --> 00:45:08.867
BECAUSE I LEARNED
THAT FROM GOD.

00:45:08.967 --> 00:45:10.933
THAT'S WHAT GOD DOES.


00:45:11.033 --> 00:45:12.500
WELL, WHY DID HE
DO IT THAT WAY?

00:45:12.600 --> 00:45:14.067
OKAY, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY
THERE'S DIFFERENT COLORS

00:45:14.167 --> 00:45:15.333
OF PEOPLE ON THE EARTH?


00:45:15.433 --> 00:45:17.533
I GOT THIS IN THE
CONVERSATION WITH GOD.

00:45:17.633 --> 00:45:20.067
THERE'S FIVE COLORS
OF DIRT ON THE EARTH.

00:45:20.167 --> 00:45:21.700
THERE'S BLACK DIRT,
BROWN DIRT, RED DIRT,

00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:24.066
YELLOW DIRT,
AND WHITE DIRT.

00:45:24.166 --> 00:45:26.166
WHAT DID HE
MAKE MAN OUT OF?

00:45:26.266 --> 00:45:26.700
DIRT.


00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:27.367
WHY ARE WE MAD?


00:45:27.467 --> 00:45:28.167
WE'RE FIGHTING OVER DIRT.


00:45:28.267 --> 00:45:28.967
IT'S DIRT.


00:45:29.067 --> 00:45:29.700
SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?


00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.833
WE'RE JUST A SACK OF MUD.


00:45:31.933 --> 00:45:35.100
AND GOD BROKE GROUND
WHEN HE MADE ADAM.

00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:36.433
DIRT.


00:45:36.533 --> 00:45:38.700
THAT'S WHY YOU'VE GOT
THE DIFFERENT COLORS.

00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:39.767
WHY DO YOU LIKE RED?


00:45:39.867 --> 00:45:41.400
WHY DO YOU LIKE BLUE?


00:45:41.500 --> 00:45:44.900
WHY DON'T YOU WEAR THE
SAME COLOR ALL THE TIME?

00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:45.800
BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO.


00:45:45.900 --> 00:45:47.000
OKAY.


00:45:47.100 --> 00:45:48.566
FINE.


00:45:48.666 --> 00:45:49.833
NOW, AND I'M GOING TO
MAKE SOMEBODY REAL MAD.

00:45:49.933 --> 00:45:51.467
LET'S MIX THE COLORS.


00:45:51.567 --> 00:45:53.300
OOH, NOW, WE JUST
CAN'T DO THAT.

00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.834
OH, YEAH, YOU CAN.


00:45:55.934 --> 00:45:59.267
THAT'S HOW YOU GOT PURPLE.


00:45:59.367 --> 00:46:01.667
SOMEBODY MIXED THE COLOR.


00:46:01.767 --> 00:46:03.200
WELL, WHAT'S
WRONG WITH PURPLE?

00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:03.800
REBECCA: NOTHING.


00:46:03.900 --> 00:46:04.434
JESSE: NOTHING.


00:46:04.534 --> 00:46:05.167
THAT'S MY POINT.


00:46:05.267 --> 00:46:05.867
THERE'S NOTHING.


00:46:05.967 --> 00:46:07.933
WE'RE THE HUMAN RACE, MAN.


00:46:08.033 --> 00:46:13.300
AND THIS COULD BE ALL
SHUT DOWN SO EASILY.

00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.734
AND THE SUCCESS
OF IT IS GOD.

00:46:16.834 --> 00:46:18.933
SO WHEN WE ALL
GET TO HEAVEN,

00:46:19.033 --> 00:46:21.267
ANYBODY IS GOING TO LIVE
IN ANYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD

00:46:21.367 --> 00:46:22.366
WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.


00:46:22.466 --> 00:46:23.167
[ LAUGHING ]


00:46:23.267 --> 00:46:24.200
REBECCA: AMEN.


00:46:24.300 --> 00:46:25.200
JESSE: SEE, IT DOESN'T
MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

00:46:25.300 --> 00:46:26.067
IT DOESN'T.


00:46:26.167 --> 00:46:27.300
REBECCA: I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO THAT.

00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:28.467
BECAUSE I LOVE
ALL PEOPLE TOO.

00:46:28.567 --> 00:46:29.500
I HATE ALL THIS FIGHTING.


00:46:29.600 --> 00:46:30.866
JESSE:
I CAN'T STAND IT.

00:46:30.966 --> 00:46:32.034
REBECCA:
I CAN'T, EITHER.

00:46:32.134 --> 00:46:33.867
JESSE: I LIKE THOSE CHILDREN
WHEN WE GO TO OUR CHURCH,

00:46:33.967 --> 00:46:34.900
THEY COME RIGHT
OUT OF THE NURSERY,

00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:36.267
THEY GO, BROTHER JESSE.


00:46:36.367 --> 00:46:37.800
AND SOME ARE BLACK,
SOME ARE BROWN,

00:46:37.900 --> 00:46:39.567
AND THEY JUST GRAB
ME BY THE LEGS,

00:46:39.667 --> 00:46:40.800
MAKE ME FEEL SO GOOD.


00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:42.667
THEN I WILL SAY, YOU
KNOW WHAT THEY SAY?

00:46:42.767 --> 00:46:45.167
THEY DON'T SAY,
BROTHER JESSE WHITE.

00:46:45.267 --> 00:46:46.200
THEY DON'T SAY THAT.


00:46:46.300 --> 00:46:47.000
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY?


00:46:47.100 --> 00:46:47.900
BROTHER JESSE.


00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:49.066
I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU
SOMETHING FUNNY,

00:46:49.166 --> 00:46:50.233
AND THEN I GUESS I'VE
GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE,

00:46:50.333 --> 00:46:51.233
I'VE BEEN
PREACHING SO MUCH.

00:46:51.333 --> 00:46:52.734
REBECCA: I KNOW,
IT'S SO GOOD, THOUGH.

00:46:52.834 --> 00:46:54.767
JESSE: KATHY IS THE SENIOR
PASTOR OF COVENANT CHURCH.

00:46:54.867 --> 00:46:56.433
NOW, SOME OF Y'ALL WILL
GET MAD ABOUT THAT.

00:46:56.533 --> 00:46:57.767
I DON'T BELIEVE WOMEN
OUGHT TO PREACH.

00:46:57.867 --> 00:46:58.800
YOU NEED TO COME
TO NEW ORLEANS,

00:46:58.900 --> 00:47:00.100
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU
SOME MANIFESTATION.

00:47:00.200 --> 00:47:01.866
THEM WOMEN CAN
FLAT PREACH THERE.

00:47:01.966 --> 00:47:02.734
WELL, WATCH THIS.


00:47:02.834 --> 00:47:04.600
THEY WERE IN A
YOUTH MEETING,

00:47:04.700 --> 00:47:06.833
AND KATHY HAD A
YOUTH SPEAKER,

00:47:06.933 --> 00:47:09.866
AND THERE'S SOME KIDS,
WE HAVE A GIRL NAMED STEPHANIE,

00:47:09.966 --> 00:47:11.767
HER GRANDCHILDREN
GO TO A CATHOLIC SCHOOL.

00:47:11.867 --> 00:47:13.266
A LOT OF MOST KIDS
GO TO CATHOLIC SCHOOLS

00:47:13.366 --> 00:47:15.566
IN SOUTH LOUISIANA, THERE'S JUST
A BUNCH OF SCHOOLS.

00:47:15.666 --> 00:47:17.666
ANYWAY, HIS
NAME IS JACKSON.

00:47:17.766 --> 00:47:18.800
OKAY.


00:47:18.900 --> 00:47:20.900
WELL, THE SPEAKER WAS
SAYING, TALKING ABOUT SIN.

00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:22.600
NOW, Y'ALL SHOULDN'T
BE SINNING.

00:47:22.700 --> 00:47:28.067
AND THEN HE SAYS THIS:
EVEN PASTOR KATHY SINS.

00:47:28.167 --> 00:47:29.833
AND JACKSON, I FORGOT
HOW OLD HE WAS,

00:47:29.933 --> 00:47:31.467
HE'S PROBABLY SIX OR SEVEN
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,

00:47:31.567 --> 00:47:35.533
HE SAYS,
PASTOR KATHY DOESN'T SIN.

00:47:35.633 --> 00:47:37.566
THAT'S FATHER JESSE'S WIFE.


00:47:37.666 --> 00:47:38.833
[ LAUGHING ]


00:47:38.933 --> 00:47:40.467
HE CALLS ME
FATHER JESSE.

00:47:40.567 --> 00:47:43.534
BECAUSE HE GOES TO
A CATHOLIC SCHOOL.

00:47:43.634 --> 00:47:46.100
AND I THOUGHT,
THAT'S RIGHT.

00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:47.333
OKAY.


00:47:47.433 --> 00:47:50.200
SO HE'LL SAY, FATHER JESSE,
I SAID, BLESS YOU, MY SON.

00:47:50.300 --> 00:47:51.267
[ LAUGHING ]


00:47:51.367 --> 00:47:53.534
TO ME, THAT'S OKAY,
BECAUSE I AM A FATHER.

00:47:53.634 --> 00:47:55.133
REBECCA: YEAH.


00:47:55.233 --> 00:47:57.567
JESSE: I'M HIS FATHER
RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

00:47:57.667 --> 00:47:59.300
WE WENT TO OUR
GRANDPARENTS ONE TIME

00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.600
THING OUT OF THE SCHOOL,
AND FOR MEREDITH,

00:48:02.700 --> 00:48:03.566
I MADE UP MY MIND,
WHAT DO THEY CALL IT,

00:48:03.666 --> 00:48:05.134
GRANDPARENTS DAY,
KATHY, I THINK IT WAS.

00:48:05.234 --> 00:48:06.733
AW, I JUST LOVE
ALL THAT STUFF.

00:48:06.833 --> 00:48:07.900
I DIDN'T DO
THAT WITH JODIE,

00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.400
BUT JODIE UNDERSTOOD
BECAUSE I WAS TRAVELING SO MUCH.

00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:11.634
AND I SAID, I'M NOT
DOING THAT NO MORE.

00:48:11.734 --> 00:48:13.866
SO ANYWAY, JODIE
HAD A FRIEND,

00:48:13.966 --> 00:48:16.234
AND HIS GRANDFATHER
COULDN'T BE THERE.

00:48:16.334 --> 00:48:18.300
AND I COULD SEE HE
WAS DISAPPOINTED.

00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:19.100
YOU COULD TELL.


00:48:19.200 --> 00:48:20.200
CHILDREN WANT
YOU TO BE THERE.

00:48:20.300 --> 00:48:21.800
THEY NOTICE.


00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:23.900
SO WE GOT IN THE ROOM.


00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.734
THE TEACHER SAID, THIS IS
MEREDITH'S GRANDFATHER,

00:48:26.834 --> 00:48:27.467
JESSE DUPLANTIS.


00:48:27.567 --> 00:48:28.367
I SAID, HELLO.


00:48:28.467 --> 00:48:29.634
I'M MEREDITH'S GRANDFATHER.


00:48:29.734 --> 00:48:31.067
AND I CAN'T THINK OF
THE NAME OF THE BOY,

00:48:31.167 --> 00:48:33.733
WHATEVER HIS NAME
WAS, SHE SAID,

00:48:33.833 --> 00:48:34.867
AND WHERE'S
YOUR GRANDFATHER?

00:48:34.967 --> 00:48:37.100
AND BEFORE, AND HE WAS
ABOUT, I COULD TELL,

00:48:37.200 --> 00:48:40.133
AND I SAID, I'M HIS
GRANDFATHER TODAY.

00:48:40.233 --> 00:48:42.000
AND HE JUST LOOKED
AT ME LIKE THAT.

00:48:42.100 --> 00:48:43.867
AND I SAID, AND I'M
A GOOD GRANDFATHER.

00:48:43.967 --> 00:48:44.867
AND MEREDITH GOES,
YES, HE IS.

00:48:44.933 --> 00:48:45.667
[ CHUCKLES ]


00:48:45.767 --> 00:48:48.300
AND IT MADE
HIM FEEL SO GOOD.

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.234
I WAS ONLY A GRANDFATHER
FOR A FEW MINUTES FOR HIM,

00:48:52.334 --> 00:48:55.534
BUT I TOOK THE
SADNESS AWAY.

00:48:55.634 --> 00:48:59.534
BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS
IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS

00:48:59.634 --> 00:49:03.400
HE'S GOT SOMEBODY
THERE THAT LOVED HIM.

00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:05.200
NOW, I'M NOT CRITICIZING
HIS GRANDFATHER,

00:49:05.300 --> 00:49:06.600
MAYBE SOMETHING
HAPPENED, WHO KNOWS,

00:49:06.700 --> 00:49:09.667
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
THAT, BUT, YOU SEE,

00:49:09.767 --> 00:49:12.200
THE GENTILES, WE DIDN'T
HAVE A GRANDFATHER.

00:49:12.300 --> 00:49:15.300
THE JEWS DID.


00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.233
AND WE SHOWED UP.


00:49:17.333 --> 00:49:19.300
AND GOD SAYS, WHO
IS YOUR GRANDFATHER?

00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.233
AND JESUS JUMPED IN
AND SAID, FATHER,

00:49:22.333 --> 00:49:24.833
I'M THEIR
GRANDFATHER TODAY.

00:49:24.933 --> 00:49:25.867
YOU SEE MY POINT?


00:49:25.967 --> 00:49:26.833
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT
I'M TRYING TO GET TO?

00:49:26.933 --> 00:49:28.233
THAT'S WHAT GOD DOES.


00:49:28.333 --> 00:49:30.067
SO NONE OF YOU
ARE EVER ALONE.

00:49:30.167 --> 00:49:30.900
AM I TALKING TOO MUCH?


00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:31.567
I'M SORRY.


00:49:31.667 --> 00:49:32.767
REBECCA: NO, I LOVE IT.


00:49:32.867 --> 00:49:35.400
THERE'S ONLY TWO MORE
THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU TO DO.

00:49:35.500 --> 00:49:38.433
ONE, I WANT YOU
TO TALK ABOUT THE,

00:49:38.533 --> 00:49:40.800
IN THE THRONE ROOM, THE
SPIRITS OR WHATEVER,

00:49:40.900 --> 00:49:42.233
FLYING AROUND
THOSE THRONES.

00:49:42.333 --> 00:49:43.533
JESSE: THOSE ARE THE SERAPHIMS
AND THE ARCHANGELS, YEAH.

00:49:43.633 --> 00:49:45.300
REBECCA: NO, NO, THE
ONES THAT SAID, MAKE ME,

00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:46.300
THEY JUST SAID,
MAKE ME TO...

00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.000
JESSE: OH, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE BABIES.

00:49:47.100 --> 00:49:47.800
REBECCA: THE BABIES.


00:49:47.900 --> 00:49:49.033
I WANT YOU TO
TALK ABOUT THAT.

00:49:49.133 --> 00:49:53.334
JESSE: WHEN I SAW GOD,
I WASN'T EXPECTING TO SEE THIS.

00:49:53.434 --> 00:49:57.633
WHEN GOD THINKS,
HE THINKS CHILDREN.

00:49:57.733 --> 00:49:58.433
THAT'S IT.


00:49:58.533 --> 00:49:59.500
A FATHER AND HIS FAMILY.


00:49:59.600 --> 00:50:00.733
THEY THINK CHILDREN.


00:50:00.833 --> 00:50:02.733
CHILDREN IS THE GREATEST MIRACLE
THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

00:50:02.833 --> 00:50:03.933
WATCH THIS.


00:50:04.033 --> 00:50:06.034
LOOK AT ME, AND I DON'T
KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS,

00:50:06.134 --> 00:50:07.666
THEY SEEM TO BE
ABOUT THIS BIG.

00:50:07.766 --> 00:50:09.400
THEY HAD LIKE, THEY'RE
GOING TO GET MAD,

00:50:09.500 --> 00:50:11.766
SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO TRY TO CRITICIZE.

00:50:11.866 --> 00:50:14.334
THEY HAD THE
ABILITY TO FLY.

00:50:14.434 --> 00:50:16.834
AND THEY WOULD GET
IN THE BREATH OF GOD.

00:50:16.934 --> 00:50:18.566
AND I COULD HEAR
THEIR VOICES SAYING,

00:50:18.666 --> 00:50:20.600
WOULD YOU MAKE
ME A SPIRIT?

00:50:20.700 --> 00:50:22.600
SEE, THE LITTLE SOULS,
THE MIND, THE WILL,

00:50:22.700 --> 00:50:24.067
AND THE EMOTION,
THAT'S A SOUL.

00:50:24.167 --> 00:50:25.567
THAT'S GOD'S THOUGHTS.


00:50:25.667 --> 00:50:26.966
WILL YOU MAKE ME A SPIRIT?


00:50:27.066 --> 00:50:28.467
WOULD YOU MAKE
ME A SPIRIT?

00:50:28.567 --> 00:50:30.000
AND GOD WOULD DO THIS.


00:50:30.100 --> 00:50:32.767
WHOO.


00:50:32.867 --> 00:50:35.467
AND EVERY TIME
GOD BREATHED,

00:50:35.567 --> 00:50:37.633
LIFE COMES INTO EXISTENCE.


00:50:37.733 --> 00:50:41.167
AND THEY WENT OUT AS A
THOUGHT OF GOD AS A SOUL

00:50:41.267 --> 00:50:44.333
IMPLANTED IN THE
WOMB OF A WIFE,

00:50:44.433 --> 00:50:46.567
AND BECAME A
LIVING SPIRIT.

00:50:46.667 --> 00:50:48.700
HE DON'T LOSE NO BABIES.


00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:52.134
EVEN THE ABORTIONS OR THE
MISCARRIAGES, ALL LIFE, UH-UH.

00:50:52.234 --> 00:50:53.334
NOW, WATCH THIS.


00:50:53.434 --> 00:50:57.167
WHEN SOMEONE DIES, GOD,
LOOK AT ME IF YOU CAN SEE IT

00:50:57.267 --> 00:51:01.867
AND ARE WATCHING IT, IS THIS
CLOSE TO THAT PERSON'S MOUTH,

00:51:01.967 --> 00:51:06.033
AND THEY DO THIS,
THEIR LAST BREATH, AHH.

00:51:06.133 --> 00:51:11.000
AND GOD RECEIVES THAT
LIFE BACK INTO HIMSELF.

00:51:11.100 --> 00:51:14.366
WHEN GOD -- WHEN JESUS,
YOU SEE IN ST. JOHN,

00:51:14.466 --> 00:51:18.500
HE SAYS,
RECEIVE YE THE HOLY GHOST.

00:51:18.600 --> 00:51:20.666
HE BREATHED UPON THEM.


00:51:20.766 --> 00:51:21.766
BOOM.


00:51:21.866 --> 00:51:23.333
THAT'S WHEN
SALVATION TOOK OFF.

00:51:23.433 --> 00:51:24.134
WATCH THIS.


00:51:24.234 --> 00:51:26.367
ADAM IS LIKE A
PIECE OF DIRT,

00:51:26.467 --> 00:51:29.033
AND GOD BREATHED
IN HIS NOSTRILS.

00:51:29.133 --> 00:51:30.867
NOT IN HIS MOUTH, GUYS.


00:51:30.967 --> 00:51:35.167
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CPR.


00:51:35.267 --> 00:51:37.700
WASN'T TRYING TO
GET HIM TO BREATHE.

00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:41.266
HE BREATHED SPIRIT
LIFE IN HIM.

00:51:41.366 --> 00:51:42.500
THINK ABOUT THAT.


00:51:42.600 --> 00:51:45.567
THE FIRST PERSON GOD --
ADAM EVER SAW WAS GOD ALMIGHTY

00:51:45.667 --> 00:51:49.300
FACE TO FACE.


00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:53.767
AND I SAW THOSE --
THAT'S HOW BABIES COME.

00:51:53.867 --> 00:51:55.067
HOW GOD SAID,
THAT'S WHY HE SAID,

00:51:55.167 --> 00:51:57.034
I KNEW YOU
BEFORE THE WOMB,

00:51:57.134 --> 00:51:59.567
BECAUSE THEY'RE UP
THERE SAYING, LISTEN,

00:51:59.667 --> 00:52:01.433
I WANT TO BE A SPIRIT.


00:52:01.533 --> 00:52:02.866
THERE'S LITTLE ONES,
THEY'RE THE, YOU KNOW,

00:52:02.966 --> 00:52:04.867
KIDS WILL TELL YOU
THEY WANT A COOKIE,

00:52:04.967 --> 00:52:06.766
AND THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE
YOU CRAZY UNTIL THEY GET IT.

00:52:06.866 --> 00:52:07.933
[ LAUGHING ]


00:52:08.033 --> 00:52:09.933
OKAY, BOY,
TAKE THE WHOLE BOX.

00:52:10.033 --> 00:52:11.133
WHATEVER.


00:52:11.233 --> 00:52:12.867
DAD, I WANT TO
BE A SPIRIT.

00:52:12.967 --> 00:52:15.800
AND YOU KNOW WHY EVERYBODY
WANTS TO BE SPIRITS?

00:52:15.900 --> 00:52:17.767
BECAUSE GOD IS SPIRIT.


00:52:17.867 --> 00:52:20.200
EVERYBODY WANTS
TO BE LIKE GOD.

00:52:20.300 --> 00:52:22.100
GOD IS SPIRIT.


00:52:22.200 --> 00:52:23.467
THINK ABOUT THAT.


00:52:23.567 --> 00:52:25.566
AND WHEN I SAW THAT, THAT WAS
ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING THINGS.

00:52:25.666 --> 00:52:29.400
SO I DON'T LIKE ABORTION
AND MISCARRIAGES.

00:52:29.500 --> 00:52:31.533
BUT GOD, LET ME TELL YOU,
IF YOU HAD A MISCARRIAGE,

00:52:31.633 --> 00:52:32.700
YOU HAD AN
ABORTION, WHATEVER,

00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.100
WHEN YOU GET TO HEAVEN,
THAT BABY WILL BE THERE.

00:52:35.200 --> 00:52:38.067
PEOPLE WILL SAY, I ONLY
HAVE TWO CHILDREN,

00:52:38.167 --> 00:52:39.234
BUT I HAD
TWO MISCARRIAGES.

00:52:39.334 --> 00:52:40.500
ACTUALLY, YOU'VE GOT FOUR.


00:52:40.600 --> 00:52:41.900
REBECCA: OH, WOW.


00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:43.166
JESSE: OH, HE
AIN'T LOSING THEM.

00:52:43.266 --> 00:52:44.400
UH-UH.


00:52:44.500 --> 00:52:46.766
AND THEN, BECAUSE
OF THE TIME FACTORS,

00:52:46.866 --> 00:52:48.934
YOU WILL PROBABLY
RAISE THAT KID.

00:52:49.034 --> 00:52:50.166
IT'S GOING TO
BE WONDERFUL.

00:52:50.266 --> 00:52:51.067
YOU'VE GOT TO GO.


00:52:51.167 --> 00:52:51.767
THAT'S ALL I TELL PEOPLE.


00:52:51.867 --> 00:52:53.033
YOU'VE JUST GOT TO GO.


00:52:53.133 --> 00:52:54.333
THAT'S WHAT AWAITS US.


00:52:54.433 --> 00:52:55.434
REBECCA: THAT'S WHY I
WANTED YOU TO SHARE THAT,

00:52:55.534 --> 00:52:57.600
BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SO
MANY WOMEN THAT EITHER

00:52:57.700 --> 00:53:00.567
HAVE ABORTED THEIR CHILDREN
OR THEY'VE HAD MISCARRIAGES,

00:53:00.667 --> 00:53:04.133
AND THEY
MOURN OVER THAT LOSS.

00:53:04.233 --> 00:53:05.966
JESSE: WHY IS IT A BABY
WHEN YOU WANT IT

00:53:06.066 --> 00:53:07.667
AND A FETUS
WHEN YOU DON'T?

00:53:07.767 --> 00:53:09.767
I HAD A WOMAN EAT MY
LUNCH NOT TOO LONG AGO.

00:53:09.867 --> 00:53:12.867
SHE SAID, I GUESS
YOU'RE PRO-LIFE.

00:53:12.967 --> 00:53:13.967
I SAID, YES, MA'AM.


00:53:14.067 --> 00:53:15.267
WELL, I'M PRO-CHOICE.


00:53:15.367 --> 00:53:17.300
I SAID, I'M GLAD
YOUR MAMA WASN'T.

00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:18.300
REBECCA: MM-HM.


00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:19.366
JESSE: I SAID,
BECAUSE IF SHE WAS,

00:53:19.466 --> 00:53:21.000
WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING
THIS CONVERSATION TODAY.

00:53:21.100 --> 00:53:21.900
SHE DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT TO SAY.

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.766
[ STUTTERS ]


00:53:25.866 --> 00:53:27.833
I SAW A SIGN, ME AND
KATHY SAW A SIGN AT A CHURCH,

00:53:27.933 --> 00:53:29.000
AND IT SHOWED
A BABY THAT SAID,

00:53:29.100 --> 00:53:30.433
I'M NOT A CHOICE.


00:53:30.533 --> 00:53:32.967
I'M A CHILD.


00:53:33.067 --> 00:53:35.133
I'M NOT A CHOICE,
I'M A CHILD.

00:53:35.233 --> 00:53:37.767
NOW, I'M NOT HERE TO
GET POLITICAL WITH YOU.

00:53:37.867 --> 00:53:39.133
CAN I SAY THIS?


00:53:39.233 --> 00:53:42.200
IT AIN'T NONE OF MY BUSINESS
TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO

00:53:42.300 --> 00:53:43.900
WITH YOUR BODY,
TO CONTROL IT.

00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:47.966
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE LIFE
THAT CAN'T TALK FOR ITSELF,

00:53:48.066 --> 00:53:51.667
SOMEONE HAS TO
TALK FOR IT.

00:53:51.767 --> 00:53:53.067
THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.


00:53:53.167 --> 00:53:57.400
BUT WHEN YOU BECOME
DESENSITIZED, YOU SEE,

00:53:57.500 --> 00:53:58.867
WHAT IT'S REALLY NOT.


00:53:58.967 --> 00:54:01.633
IT'S JUST A MASS OF CELLS.


00:54:01.733 --> 00:54:03.034
NO.


00:54:03.134 --> 00:54:05.300
THAT'S SPIRIT THERE.


00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:06.400
AND THAT'S WHAT
THAT'S ABOUT.

00:54:06.500 --> 00:54:07.867
WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE YOU
WANTED ME TO THROW OUT?

00:54:07.967 --> 00:54:09.934
REBECCA: SO THE
FINAL THING IS,

00:54:10.034 --> 00:54:13.066
IS JUST YOU TALKING ABOUT
HOW WE'RE GOD'S CHILDREN,

00:54:13.166 --> 00:54:15.567
JUST REMINDS ME OF THE
VALUE OF PEOPLE

00:54:15.667 --> 00:54:18.233
AND HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO
THE LORD, AND I JUST WANT TO,

00:54:18.333 --> 00:54:20.666
PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING
OR LISTENING TO THIS

00:54:20.766 --> 00:54:22.333
AND THEY'RE FEELING CONVICTED
IN THEIR HEART,

00:54:22.433 --> 00:54:24.000
I JUST WANT TO PRAY A
SALVATION PRAYER FOR THOSE

00:54:24.100 --> 00:54:26.100
WHO WANT TO COME IN,
AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP.

00:54:26.200 --> 00:54:27.333
JESSE: OKAY.


00:54:27.433 --> 00:54:28.867
WELL, LET ME
JUST SAY THIS.

00:54:28.967 --> 00:54:33.400
JESUS IS NOT A RELIGION,
HE'S A PERSON.

00:54:33.500 --> 00:54:35.233
YOU CAN MEET HIM TODAY.


00:54:35.333 --> 00:54:36.766
OR YOU MAY THINK,
WELL, I'M SO BAD.

00:54:36.866 --> 00:54:38.400
YOU DON'T REALIZE
HOW BAD I AM.

00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:40.900
YOU DON'T REALIZE
HOW GOOD HE IS.

00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:42.033
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING.


00:54:42.133 --> 00:54:43.533
SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU
TO PRAY A PRAYER WITH ME.

00:54:43.633 --> 00:54:44.667
IT'S VERY SIMPLE.


00:54:44.767 --> 00:54:45.600
IT'S NOT LONG.


00:54:45.700 --> 00:54:47.267
DON'T SAY IT BY YOUR HEAD.


00:54:47.367 --> 00:54:49.000
SAY IT WITH YOUR HEART.


00:54:49.100 --> 00:54:50.000
BECAUSE THAT'S
WHO YOU ARE.

00:54:50.100 --> 00:54:51.500
THE REAL YOU IS
ON THE INSIDE.

00:54:51.600 --> 00:54:52.734
YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT.


00:54:52.834 --> 00:54:54.967
A LOT OF THE TIME, YOU CAN
GET HURT PHYSICALLY

00:54:55.067 --> 00:54:56.900
AND THAT WILL HEAL, BUT IF
YOU GET HURT INSIDE,

00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:58.300
SOMETIMES THAT
NEVER HEALS.

00:54:58.400 --> 00:54:59.600
BECAUSE THAT'S
THE REAL YOU.

00:54:59.700 --> 00:55:00.933
SO PRAY THIS WITH ME.


00:55:01.033 --> 00:55:05.467
LORD JESUS, FORGIVE ME
OF ALL MY SIN.

00:55:05.567 --> 00:55:06.833
WASH IT AWAY.


00:55:06.933 --> 00:55:11.366
I ACCEPT YOU TODAY AS
MY LORD AND SAVIOR.

00:55:11.466 --> 00:55:14.834
I REPENT OF ANY
SIN I'VE DONE.

00:55:14.934 --> 00:55:16.800
WASH ME CLEAN.


00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:21.666
TODAY, I AM YOURS
AND YOU ARE MINE.

00:55:21.766 --> 00:55:28.233
I PRAY THIS PRAYER TO
THE FATHER, IN JESUS' NAME.

00:55:28.333 --> 00:55:29.633
WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.


00:55:29.733 --> 00:55:30.834
IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.


00:55:30.934 --> 00:55:32.967
WHAT'S GOING ON THERE,
WHAT YOU'RE FEELING RIGHT THERE,

00:55:33.067 --> 00:55:35.833
OOH, ISN'T
THAT SOMETHING?

00:55:35.933 --> 00:55:36.933
YEAH.


00:55:37.033 --> 00:55:40.134
SEE, IT'S NOT RELIGION.


00:55:40.234 --> 00:55:41.867
YOU JUST MET JESUS.


00:55:41.967 --> 00:55:43.467
WELL, LET ME SAY THIS.


00:55:43.567 --> 00:55:45.333
IF I DON'T GET
TO MEET YOU HERE,

00:55:45.433 --> 00:55:47.600
I'M GOING TO MEET
YOU IN HEAVEN.

00:55:47.700 --> 00:55:48.833
I'LL COME TO YOUR HOUSE.


00:55:48.933 --> 00:55:50.133
I WILL INVITE MYSELF.


00:55:50.233 --> 00:55:51.100
PRAISE GOD.


00:55:51.200 --> 00:55:52.033
[ LAUGHING ]


00:55:52.133 --> 00:55:53.067
WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME.

00:55:53.167 --> 00:55:55.233
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
ME TO DO THIS TODAY.

00:55:55.333 --> 00:55:56.900
REBECCA:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:57.967
AND I JUST SO
APPRECIATE YOU,

00:55:58.067 --> 00:55:59.300
EVERYTHING THAT
YOU GUYS ARE DOING,

00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.733
AND WE HONOR YOU, AND
WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR YOU.

00:56:02.833 --> 00:56:07.000
AND I HAVE WITH ME TWO
OF YOUR NEWEST BOOKS,

00:56:07.100 --> 00:56:09.234
<i>I NEVER LEARNED TO DOUBT
</i> AND<i>THE HIDDEN HELP</i> .

00:56:09.334 --> 00:56:10.933
OF COURSE, THERE'S
A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

00:56:11.033 --> 00:56:13.667
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED
AND WANT TO HEAR MORE FROM YOU,

00:56:13.767 --> 00:56:14.966
WHERE CAN THEY FIND YOU?


00:56:15.066 --> 00:56:17.400
JESSE: THEY CAN GO TO
OUR WEBSITE, JDM.ORG,

00:56:17.500 --> 00:56:18.433
IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT.


00:56:18.533 --> 00:56:20.600
AND THERE'S ALL KINDS
OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

00:56:20.700 --> 00:56:23.000
BECAUSE WE'RE ON
THE ABC, CBS, NBC.

00:56:23.100 --> 00:56:24.167
WE'RE ON DAYSTAR.


00:56:24.267 --> 00:56:25.000
REBECCA: HEY.


00:56:25.100 --> 00:56:26.167
JESSE: HEY,
GLORY TO GOD.

00:56:26.267 --> 00:56:27.200
SO IF YOU GO TO WATCH
US ON TELEVISION,

00:56:27.300 --> 00:56:28.400
WATCH US ON DAYSTAR.


00:56:28.500 --> 00:56:30.767
WE'RE ON MANY
DIFFERENT, WHATEVER.

00:56:30.867 --> 00:56:33.667
OR YOU CAN GET
US ON YOUTUBE,

00:56:33.767 --> 00:56:35.634
ON ALL THE DIFFERENT
SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS,

00:56:35.734 --> 00:56:37.167
THAT WE'RE ALL
ON THAT STUFF.

00:56:37.267 --> 00:56:38.733
AND IT'S JUST
SUCH A BLESSING.

00:56:38.833 --> 00:56:42.600
AND ONE DAY, I CAN'T
TALK TO EVERYBODY,

00:56:42.700 --> 00:56:46.267
BUT WHEN I GET TO HEAVEN AND GET
THAT NEW BODY, THINK ABOUT THAT.

00:56:46.367 --> 00:56:48.166
OH, MAN.


00:56:48.266 --> 00:56:52.533
I'LL BE ABLE TO MEET EVERYONE
BECAUSE THERE IS NO TIME.

00:56:52.633 --> 00:56:54.167
THERE IS NO DARKNESS.


00:56:54.267 --> 00:56:55.900
GOD IS LIGHT.


00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:57.067
THERE'S ONE
THING I WILL SAY,

00:56:57.167 --> 00:56:58.734
AND THEN I'LL
CLOSE WITH THIS.

00:56:58.834 --> 00:57:01.900
I KEPT LOOKING BEHIND THE ANGEL
THAT WAS CARRYING ME.

00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:02.866
HE SAID, WHAT ARE
YOU LOOKING FOR?

00:57:02.966 --> 00:57:06.200
I SAID, I'M NOT
CASTING A SHADOW.

00:57:06.300 --> 00:57:07.867
WHY AM I NOT
CASTING A SHADOW?

00:57:07.967 --> 00:57:09.267
YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID?


00:57:09.367 --> 00:57:10.267
GOD IS LIGHT.


00:57:10.367 --> 00:57:11.434
THERE'S NO SHADOWS HERE.


00:57:11.534 --> 00:57:14.733
GOD IS LIGHT IN WHOM
THERE'S NO DARKNESS.

00:57:14.833 --> 00:57:16.333
NO SHADOW OF TURNING.


00:57:16.433 --> 00:57:18.933
IF YOU LOOK IN THIS
STUDIO, WE SEE DARKNESS.

00:57:19.033 --> 00:57:20.200
RIGHT.


00:57:20.300 --> 00:57:22.500
BUT THEM LIGHTS RIGHT THERE ARE
KEEPING THE DARKNESS OUT.

00:57:22.600 --> 00:57:24.500
YOU CUT THEM LIGHTS OUT,
IT GETS DARK IN HERE.

00:57:24.600 --> 00:57:25.300
REBECCA: UH-HUH.


00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:26.234
JESSE: BUT
THAT LITTLE BIT,

00:57:26.334 --> 00:57:29.266
LOOK HOW MUCH BIGGER
THE DARKNESS IS.

00:57:29.366 --> 00:57:31.666
BUT LOOK HOW SMALL THE
LIGHT IS TO KEEP IT OUT.

00:57:31.766 --> 00:57:33.700
AND ALL YOU'VE GOT TO DO IS
MEET THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD,

00:57:33.800 --> 00:57:35.634
AND YOU JUST DID.


00:57:35.734 --> 00:57:37.533
NOW, LET HIM SHINE.


00:57:37.633 --> 00:57:40.900
AND DARKNESS WILL NEVER BE
APART OF YOUR LIFE AGAIN.

00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:42.367
I PROMISE YOU.


00:57:42.467 --> 00:57:44.100
I WOULDN'T LIE TO YOU.


00:57:44.200 --> 00:57:48.233
IT STARTS TODAY, AND
IT'S STARTED TODAY.

00:57:48.333 --> 00:57:49.466
THANK YOU.


00:57:49.566 --> 00:57:51.800
REBECCA: WELL, THANK YOU
SO MUCH, PASTOR JESSE.

00:57:51.900 --> 00:57:53.433
I STILL HAVE TO CALL
YOU PASTOR JESSE.

00:57:53.533 --> 00:57:55.200
EVERYONE WHO'S LISTENING,
THOSE WHO PRAYED THAT PRAYER,

00:57:55.300 --> 00:57:56.667
WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.


00:57:56.767 --> 00:57:58.367
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR LISTENING.

00:57:58.467 --> 00:58:01.167
AND LONG FOR HIS APPEARING
BECAUSE JESUS TOLD JESSE

00:58:01.300 --> 00:58:02.600
HIMSELF, HE'S
COMING BACK SOON.

00:58:02.700 --> 00:58:03.633
JESSE: HE'S COMING.


00:58:03.733 --> 00:58:04.634
REBECCA: THANKS FOR
LISTENING TODAY, GUYS.

00:58:04.734 --> 00:58:05.900
BYE FOR TODAY.