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REBECCA WEISS: WELL,
I JUST FEEL LIKE
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION.
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I DON'T EVEN
NEED AN INTRO.
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[ LAUGHING ]
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JOHN BEVERE: REBECCA,
IT IS SUCH AN HONOR
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TO BE ON WITH YOU.
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AND I HAVE FELT LIKE
YOU'VE BEEN A NIECE
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TO LISA AND I FOR
YEARS AND YEARS.
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IT'S JUST SO HARD FOR
ME TO BELIEVE,
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I JUST REMEMBER YOU AS
A HIGH SCHOOL GIRL
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COMING TO OUR KITCHEN.
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AND NOW HERE
YOU ARE A MATURE MOM,
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GREAT WIFE,
YOU HAVE TWO CHILDREN.
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I'M SO PROUD OF
YOU, REBECCA.
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I AM.
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REBECCA: THANK
YOU SO MUCH.
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AND I'M SUPER EXCITED
TO HAVE YOU HERE
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BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING
TO BE TALKING ABOUT
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THE AWE OF GOD,
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WHICH IS YOUR NEW BOOK.
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JOHN: RIGHT.
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REBECCA: BUT IT'S
SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
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AND I FEEL LIKE THIS
IS A BURDEN,
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I THINK YOU'VE BEEN CARRYING
FOR A LONG TIME.
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THIS ISN'T A NEW
DEVELOPMENT.
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JOHN: CORRECT.
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REBECCA: COULD YOU
SPEAK TO THAT?
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JOHN: WELL, IT'S A VERY
STRONG BURDEN.
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GOD STARTED REALLY
INTRODUCING IT TO ME IN 1994.
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SO WE'RE AT 30 YEARS NOW
THAT THE LORD'S REALLY BEEN
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ADDRESSING THIS WITH ME.
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BUT THE BURDEN HAS COME
IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
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BARNA JUST RELEASED A
STUDY RECENTLY
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THAT OVER
23 MILLION AMERICANS
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HAVE WALKED AWAY
FROM THE FAITH.
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23 MILLION, REBECCA.
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NOW, THESE ARE
PRACTICING CHRISTIANS.
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AND WHAT HE DEFINED A
PRACTICING CHRISTIAN AS
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IS ONE WHO PRAYS REGULARLY
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AND ATTENDS OR
GATHERS REGULARLY.
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THESE 23 MILLION,
AND IT'S OVER 23 MILLION,
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HAVE NOT JUST
GONE TO SILENT,
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THEY ARE NOW PROFESSING
AGNOSTICS, ATHEISTS,
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AND SPIRITUALISTS.
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NOW, PAUL THE
APOSTLE SAID,
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BEFORE THAT DAY COMES,
THERE'S GOING TO BE
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A GREAT APOSTASY,
A GREAT FALLING AWAY
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FROM THOSE WHO PROFESS
CHRISTIANITY.
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WHY IS THAT?
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AND LET ME SAY
THIS, FIRST OF ALL.
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HE NEVER WROTE THAT THEY
WOULDN'T COME BACK.
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AND JUST AS JOHN THE
BAPTIST WAS SENT
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TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE
HOUSE OF ISRAEL,
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I BELIEVE THERE'S A
COMPANY OF MEN AND WOMEN,
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BOTH YOUNG AND
OLD, REBECCA,
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THAT ARE GOING TO GO
AFTER THESE LOST PEOPLE.
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AND WHEN YOU STOP AND
THINK ABOUT OVER 23 MILLION,
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THAT'S ONE OUT
OF EVERY 14 AMERICANS.
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NOW, WHY IS
THIS OCCURRING?
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I FULLY BELIEVE IT'S
BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT TALKED
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ABOUT THE HOLY,
HEALTHY FEAR OF GOD.
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NOW, BEFORE EVERYBODY
GETS NERVOUS, OKAY,
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AND YOU WENT - YOU
JUST SAID FEAR.
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I WANT TO ERADICATE FEAR.
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WE'VE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE,
IN THAT WE HAVE LUMPED
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ALL FEARS INTO ONE BUCKET,
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AND THAT IS
DESTRUCTIVE FEARS.
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I SUBMIT TO EVERYONE
LISTENING
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THAT THERE ARE
TWO BUCKETS OF FEARS.
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THERE IS DESTRUCTIVE AND
THERE'S CONSTRUCTIVE.
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LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE
OF A CONSTRUCTIVE FEAR.
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FEAR PRODUCES WISDOM.
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WE KNOW THE FEAR
OF THE LORD
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IS THE BEGINNING OF
GODLY WISDOM.
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LET ME SHOW YOU THIS.
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THE FEAR OF BEING MAULED
BY A MOTHER GRIZZLY BEAR
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WILL GIVE ME THE WISDOM TO
NOT MESS WITH HER CUBS.
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NOW, THAT FEAR WILL
ACTUALLY SAVE MY LIFE.
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NOW, THAT FEAR CAN GO TO
DESTRUCTIVE BY THE FACT THAT
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IT CAN GET SO HUGE
THAT I WON'T EVEN
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GO FOR A WALK IN THE WOODS.
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SO THE FEAR THAT ERADICATES
ALL UNHEALTHY FEARS
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IS THE
FEAR OF THE LORD.
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AND ONE OF THE GREATEST
UNHEALTHY FEARS
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IS THE FEAR OF MAN.
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IT ERADICATES IT.
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WHEN YOU FEAR GOD, YOU FEAR
NOTHING THAT'S DESTRUCTIVE.
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SO WHY DO I BRING
THAT UP IN REGARD TO,
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AND LET ME SAY SOMETHING
ELSE BEFORE EVERYBODY
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GETS REALLY SCARED ON
THE PODCAST, OKAY.
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THE FEAR OF THE LORD HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH
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BEING SCARED OF GOD.
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NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
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HOW CAN YOU BE INTIMATE
WITH SOMEBODY
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YOU'RE SCARED OF?
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YET THAT'S GOD'S NUMBER
ONE PASSION FOR US,
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IS TO HAVE AN INTIMATE
RELATIONSHIP.
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IN FACT, IT'S
COUNTER-INTUITIVE.
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THE BEGINNING, THE BIBLE
MAKES THIS SO CLEAR,
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THE STARTING PLACE OF AN
INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD
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IS THE FEAR OF THE LORD.
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THAT'S PROVERBS
1:7 AND 2:5.
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AND ACTUALLY
PSALM 25:14 SAYS,
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FRIENDSHIP WITH THE LORD
IS RESERVED
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FOR THOSE WHO FEAR HIM.
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WITH THEM, HE
SHARES HIS SECRETS.
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NOW, CAN YOU
IMAGINE, GOD SAYS,
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I SHARE MY SECRETS WITH MY
INTIMATE FRIENDS,
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AND MY INTIMATE FRIENDS ARE
THOSE WHO FEAR ME.
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NOW, WHY DO I BRING UP ALL
OF THESE CHRISTIANS
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THAT HAVE FALLEN AWAY
FROM THE FAITH?
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BECAUSE THE BIBLE
SHOWS CLEARLY
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THAT THE FEAR OF THE LORD
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IS WHAT KEEPS US
CLOSE TO GOD.
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IT'S THE POWER THAT WE
NEED TO DEPART FROM THE EVIL
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THAT WOULD PULL US
AWAY FROM GOD'S HEART.
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SO THE BIBLE SAYS, BY
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
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ONE DEPARTS FROM EVIL.
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I'LL NEVER
FORGET, REBECCA,
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I'M SITTING IN FRONT OF A
WORLD-FAMOUS EVANGELIST
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WHO WAS IN PRISON
FOR FIVE YEARS.
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HE'S THE BEST-KNOWN MAN
IN THE WORLD,
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ALL FOR THE WRONG REASONS
BECAUSE OF HIS TRIAL.
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IT WAS ON CNN EVERY DAY.
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AND I REMEMBER IN HIS
FOURTH YEAR OF PRISON,
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HE SHARED WITH ME HOW
JESUS HAD DELIVERED HIM
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FROM ALL THE EVIL THAT
WAS IN HIS LIFE.
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HE SAID, JOHN, I
WAS IN BAD SHAPE.
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AND HE SAID, IF I WOULD
HAVE DIED, HE SAID,
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THIS PRISON WAS ACTUALLY
GOD'S MERCY ON MY LIFE.
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IF I WOULD HAVE DIED,
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I WOULD HAVE BEEN SEPARATED
FROM GOD FOR ETERNITY.
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HE SAID, I WOULD HAVE
BURNED IN THE LAKE OF FIRE.
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AND I REMEMBER GOING, WOW.
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AND I REMEMBER
ASKING HIM, I SAID,
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AT WHAT POINT DID YOU FALL
OUT OF LOVE WITH JESUS?
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I WATCHED YOU WEEP OVER
PEOPLE THAT WERE LOST,
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I WATCHED YOU TALK
ABOUT JESUS WITH TEARS.
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HE SAID, JOHN, I DIDN'T.
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I SAID, NO, NO.
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YOU JUST MISSED
WHAT I SAID.
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WHEN DID YOU FALL OUT
OF LOVE WITH JESUS?
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BECAUSE YOU COMMITTED
ADULTERY FOR SEVEN YEARS.
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BEFORE THAT, YOU COMMITTED
ALL THIS MAIL FRAUD.
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HE SAID, JOHN, I LOVED HIM
ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.
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AND THEN HE LOOKED AT ME,
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BECAUSE I WAS CONFUSED, REBECCA.
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THIS IS 1994.
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AND HE SAID, I
DIDN'T FEAR GOD.
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AND HE SAID, THERE ARE
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS
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JUST LIKE ME, THEY LOVE JESUS
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BUT THEY HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD.
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AND THE FEAR OF GOD IS
WHAT GIVES US THAT POWER
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TO DEPART FROM EVIL.
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SO WHY ARE WE LOSING ALL
THESE AMERICAN BELIEVERS?
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IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE
NOT TAUGHT
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THE HOLY, HEALTHY FEAR OF GOD.
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IF YOU LOOK AT
ISAIAH 11:6,
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THE FEAR OF THE LORD
IS GOD'S TREASURE.
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IF YOU LOOK AT
ISAIAH 11:3,
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THE FEAR OF THE LORD
WAS JESUS' DELIGHT.
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NOW, WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT GOD'S TREASURE,
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JESUS' DELIGHT.
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AND THEN PAUL TELLS US
IN PHILIPPIANS 2
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THAT WE WORK OUT
OUR SALVATION
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WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING.
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NOT LOVE AND KINDNESS.
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WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING.
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SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE VERY THING
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THAT MATURES OUR SALVATION.
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SO WHEN YOU BRING A
BABY INTO THE WORLD,
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YOU HAVE TWO
BABIES, REBECCA,
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YOU WOULDN'T SEND YOUR
BABY ON A BATTLEFIELD
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WITH A BUNCH OF SEALS
OR MARINES.
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WHY?
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YOUR BABY WOULD
GET KILLED.
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SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, PEOPLE
COME INTO THE FAITH
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AND THEY COME IN AS BABIES.
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BUT WHAT WE DON'T DO IS
WE DON'T MATURE THEM
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INTO MATURE BELIEVERS.
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IT'S THE FEAR OF THE
LORD THAT WORKS OUT
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OUR SALVATION OR MATURES
OUR SALVATION.
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REBECCA: SO IF SOMEONE'S
LISTENING TO THIS
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AND THEY'RE
THINKING, OKAY,
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HOW DO I HAVE THE FEAR
OF THE LORD IN MY LIFE,
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HOW DOES THAT
LOOK PRACTICALLY?
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JOHN: YEP.
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IT'S WHEN WE HONOR,
ESTEEM, TREMBLE BEFORE,
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VENERATE, AND STAND IN AWE
OF HIM ABOVE EVERYTHING
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AND EVERYONE ELSE.
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SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE
LITERALLY TAKE HIS HEART.
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AND SO WHAT HE
LOVES, WE LOVE.
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WHAT HE HATES, WE HATE.
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SO THE FEAR OF THE LORD
ISN'T TO DISLIKE EVIL.
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IT'S TO HATE EVIL.
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NOW, AGAIN, LET ME CALM
EVERYBODY'S FEARS
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BECAUSE WE KNOW LEGALISTS
HAVE SPOILED THINGS FOR US.
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SO THE LEGALIST IS
THE PERSON THAT SAYS,
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I FEAR GOD, THAT'S WHY
I HATE THOSE SINNERS.
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NO, SIR.
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YOU HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD.
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BECAUSE YOU HATE
WHAT HE LOVES.
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GOD LOVES THOSE SINNERS SO
MUCH THAT HE TOOK ON FLESH
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AND DIED A GRUESOME
DEATH TO DELIVER THEM.
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WHAT HE HATES IS WHAT
UNMAKES THOSE PEOPLE HE LOVES.
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SO GOD HATES THE SIN
THAT UNDOES PEOPLE.
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SO THAT'S WHERE IT GETS
CONFUSING WITH MEN AND WOMEN.
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THE LEGALISTS
SPOIL THINGS.
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THEY ALWAYS - WHAT'S
IMPORTANT TO GOD,
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THEY SPOIL IT.
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LIKE THEY MADE HOLINESS
INTO A BUNCH OF
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RULES AND REGULATIONS.
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WHEN HOLINESS JUST
MEANS I BELONG TO HIM.
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I'M TOTALLY HIS.
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AND IF YOU THINK
ABOUT IT,
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WHAT'S THE ONLY
DESCRIPTION OF THE CHURCH
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THAT JESUS IS
COMING BACK FOR
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IN THE NEW TESTAMENT?
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IT'S NOT A
LEADERSHIP CHURCH.
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AND I BELIEVE
IN LEADERSHIP.
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I'M A LEADER OF A WHOLE
ORGANIZATION, OKAY,
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AND HAVE BEEN.
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BUT IT'S NOT A
LEADERSHIP CHURCH.
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IT'S NOT A
COMMUNITY CHURCH.
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I BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY.
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IT'S NOT GOOD
THAT MAN'S ALONE.
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GOD HIMSELF SAID IT.
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BUT IT'S NOT A
COMMUNITY CHURCH.
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IT'S NOT A
RELEVANT CHURCH.
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I BELIEVE IN RELEVANCE.
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I LOVE HOW YOU ARE HELPING
JONI STAY RELEVANT,
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BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO,
I DRAW UPON THE MILLENNIALS
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AND GEN ZS
IN MY ORGANIZATION.
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BUT IT'S NOT A
RELEVANT CHURCH.
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THE ONLY DESCRIPTION OF
THE CHURCH
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THAT JESUS IS COMING BACK FOR
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IS A HOLY CHURCH, REBECCA,
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WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE
OR ANY SUCH THING.
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WHAT'S THE ONLY THING
THAT PRODUCES HOLINESS?
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NOT THE LOVE OF GOD.
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2 CORINTHIANS TELLS US.
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WE PERFECT HOLINESS IN
THE HOLY FEAR OF GOD.
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REBECCA:
THAT'S SO GOOD.
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I WANT TO READ, ACTUALLY,
THE VERSE FROM ISAIAH.
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IT'S THE MESSIANIC
PROPHECY.
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THIS IS ISAIAH 11.
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YOU WERE REFERENCING IT.
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IT SAYS, THERE SHALL COME
FORTH A SHOOT FROM
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THE STUMP OF JESSE, AND A
BRANCH FROM HIS ROOTS
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SHALL BEAR FRUIT AND THE SPIRIT
OF LORD SHALL REST UPON HIM.
00:09:05.533 --> 00:09:07.633
THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM
AND UNDERSTANDING,
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THE SPIRIT OF
COUNSEL AND MIGHT,
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THE SPIRIT OF KNOWLEDGE
AND THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
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AND HIS DELIGHT SHALL BE
IN THE FEAR OF THE LORD.
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HE SHALL NOT JUDGE BY
WHAT HIS EYES SEE
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OR DECIDE DISPUTES BY WHAT
HIS EARS HEAR.
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BUT WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS, HE
SHALL JUDGE THE POOR
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AND DECIDE WITH EQUITY FOR
THE MEEK OF THE EARTH,
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AND HE SHALL
STRIKE THE EARTH
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WITH THE ROD OF HIS MOUTH,
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AND WITH THE BREATH
OF HIS LIPS
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HE SHALL KILL THE WICKED.
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THE SEVEN-FOLD
SPIRIT OF GOD.
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AND I THINK ABOUT
THE TABERNACLE.
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I WAS JUST STUDYING
ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY.
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THE LAMP STAND THAT'S
IN THE HOLY PLACE,
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WHICH REPRESENTS THE
SEVEN-FOLD SPIRIT OF GOD,
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HAS SEVEN DIFFERENT
BRANCHES.
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AND WHAT PEOPLE THAT MAY BE
BELIEVERS DON'T UNDERSTAND
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IS THAT WE CAN HAVE THE
SEVEN-FOLD SPIRIT OF GOD.
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AND I REMEMBER CHRIS
REED, HE'S A PROPHET,
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HE CAME THROUGH JUST
RECENTLY AND GOD GAVE HIM
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THIS PROPHETIC DREAM.
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AND BASICALLY THE DREAM
MEANT THAT IF THE CHURCH
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DOES NOT HAVE THE
FEAR OF THE LORD,
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IT WON'T HAVE ANY OF
THE OTHER SIX-FOLDS.
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HE SAYS IT ALL HINGES ON
THE FEAR OF THE LORD.
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IT WAS SUCH A
POWERFUL DREAM.
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AND SO WE AS BELIEVERS
NEED TO BE EMBRACING
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THE FEAR OF THE LORD MORE THAN
EVER IN THIS DAY AND AGE
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BECAUSE WE'RE
SEEING COMPROMISE.
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LIKE YOU SAY, WE'RE
SEEING APOSTASY.
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AND IT'S CAUSING
PEOPLE TO TURN AWAY,
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IT'S CAUSING THEIR
HEARTS TO TURN AWAY.
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I WANT TO HEAR
SOME STORIES
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GROWING UP IN MINISTRY.
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BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN IN
MINISTRY FOR HOW MANY YEARS?
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JOHN: FORTY
YEARS NEXT MONTH.
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REBECCA: HOW DID YOU
LEARN TO OVERCOME
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THE FEAR OF MAN AND
HOW DID YOU LEARN TO DEVELOP
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A HEALTHY FEAR OF GOD?
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JOHN: THAT'S A
REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
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I LOOK AT THIS, REBECCA,
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I DIDN'T WANT TO GO
INTO MINISTRY.
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REBECCA: I DON'T THINK A
LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT,
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THAT THAT'S TRUE.
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JOHN: IT'S THE LAST
THING I WANTED TO DO.
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I'LL NEVER FORGET.
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I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC, AND
SO MY CONCEPT OF MINISTRY
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WAS YOU BECOME A PRIEST
AND YOU NEVER GET MARRIED,
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AND THAT WASN'T
AN OPTION FOR ME.
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AND THEN I GREW UP IN
A SMALL TOWN OF 3,000.
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AND OTHER THAN MY
CATHOLIC PRIEST,
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THE ONLY OTHER MINISTER I
KNEW WAS A PASTOR
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WHO HAD TWO KIDS AROUND MY AGE,
AND THEY WERE REALLY STRANGE.
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AND ONE TIME I WENT
INTO THEIR HOUSE,
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AND IT REEKED OF AN ODOR
SO BAD I LITERALLY
00:11:13.067 --> 00:11:15.900
HELD MY BREATH AND I MADE
AN EXCUSE TO GET OUT
00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.000
AS FAST AS I COULD.
00:11:18.100 --> 00:11:20.600
AND SO MY CONCEPT WAS
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
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WEIRD KIDS WITH A SMELLY HOUSE,
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YOU'RE GOING TO BE A PRIEST
AND NOT GET MARRIED,
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OR YOU'RE GOING TO
END UP IN A SHACK
00:11:26.300 --> 00:11:28.467
SOMEWHERE IN AFRICA.
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AND I REMEMBER FOR
A YEAR AND A HALF
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GOD WAS DEALING WITH ME
ABOUT THIS,
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BECAUSE MY PLAN WAS,
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I DO HAVE A MECHANICAL
ENGINEERING DEGREE
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FROM PURDUE UNIVERSITY.
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I WAS GOING ON TO HARVARD.
00:11:43.066 --> 00:11:44.867
MY PROFESSOR IN
MECHANICAL ENGINEERING
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WAS HELPING ME GET THERE.
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I WAS GOING TO GO
REALLY HIGH UP
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IN THE CORPORATE LADDER.
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I WAS GOING TO MARRY A
NICE, BEAUTIFUL GIRL,
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TAKE THREE VACATIONS A
YEAR AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY
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AND GIVE MY TITHES.
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THAT'S THE WAY I WAS
GOING TO SERVE GOD.
00:11:59.166 --> 00:12:01.434
AND I REMEMBER HE STARTED
DEALING WITH ME WITH IT,
00:12:01.534 --> 00:12:05.433
AND ONE DAY HE CAME
ON ME SO STRONG.
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I WAS IN A CHURCH OF ABOUT
2,000 PEOPLE
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JUST SITTING IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING,
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AND HE SAID, I'VE CALLED
YOU TO PREACH.
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WHAT ARE YOU GOING
TO DO ABOUT IT?
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AND I REMEMBER
THAT DAY, REBECCA.
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I SAID, I DON'T CARE IF
I END UP IN AFRICA IN A SHACK
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OR IF I HAVE
A SMELLY HOUSE,
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I'LL DO WHATEVER
YOU ASK ME TO DO.
00:12:21.100 --> 00:12:23.134
SO YOU'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT A GUY
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WHO REALLY WAS WANTING
TO GO IN MINISTRY.
00:12:25.466 --> 00:12:27.700
AND I THOUGHT, I DIDN'T
EVEN WANT TO DO THIS.
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I'M NOT GOING TO TRY
TO PLEASE PEOPLE.
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I'M GOING TO DO WHATEVER
GOD TELLS ME TO DO.
00:12:32.100 --> 00:12:35.433
AND I THINK THAT YEAR AND
A HALF OF WRESTLING WITH GOD
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SOLIDIFIED IN MY HEART
THAT I DON'T CARE
00:12:38.233 --> 00:12:39.334
IF PEOPLE TURN AND WALK AWAY,
00:12:39.434 --> 00:12:40.900
I DON'T CARE IF THEY THROW
SOMETHING AT ME,
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I DON'T CARE IF THEY YELL AT ME.
00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:44.100
I'M GOING TO PREACH THE
TRUTH AND I'M GOING TO DO IT
00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.167
WITH A HEART OF LOVE.
00:12:46.267 --> 00:12:48.700
AND IF PEOPLE DON'T
RECEIVE IT, THAT'S FINE.
00:12:48.800 --> 00:12:52.367
BUT I WANT GOD SMILING
ON THE INSIDE OF ME.
00:12:52.467 --> 00:12:54.600
AND I THINK THAT'S THE
NUMBER ONE THING I LOOK FOR
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WHEN I WALK AWAY
FROM ANY SITUATION,
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WHETHER IT'S A PODCAST,
A CHURCH, A CONFERENCE,
00:12:59.500 --> 00:13:00.967
A TELEVISION PROGRAM.
00:13:01.067 --> 00:13:02.467
I WANT TO KNOW THE
HOLY SPIRIT'S SMILING
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ON THE INSIDE OF ME.
00:13:04.100 --> 00:13:06.166
AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT
OF TIMES,
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I REMEMBER THE VERY FIRST TIME
HE TOLD ME TO PREACH
00:13:08.733 --> 00:13:10.967
ON THE FEAR OF THE LORD
PUBLICLY, I GOT UP.
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IT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
CHURCHES IN THE ENTIRE AREA.
00:13:14.333 --> 00:13:17.200
THEY HAD JUST
HAD A TREMENDOUS,
00:13:17.300 --> 00:13:19.900
TREMENDOUS MOVE OF GOD.
00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:22.600
THE PASTOR WAS WELL-KNOWN.
00:13:22.700 --> 00:13:25.233
AND I GOT UP AND TAUGHT
ON IT THE NEXT NIGHT,
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BECAUSE I WAS SPEAKING TWO
NIGHTS IN HIS CONFERENCE,
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HE GOT UP FOR A
ROUTINE INTRODUCTION,
00:13:30.300 --> 00:13:32.166
AND HE CORRECTED
EVERYTHING I SAID
00:13:32.266 --> 00:13:34.133
THE NIGHT BEFORE.
00:13:34.233 --> 00:13:35.867
AND HE GOT UP AND
HE SAID, FOLKS,
00:13:35.967 --> 00:13:36.966
I JUST WANT TO PROTECT YOU
FROM THE ERROR
00:13:37.066 --> 00:13:39.533
THAT JOHN PREACHED LAST NIGHT.
00:13:39.633 --> 00:13:41.700
WHAT HE TAUGHT WAS AN
OLD TESTAMENT DOCTRINE.
00:13:41.800 --> 00:13:43.600
WE DON'T HAVE TO FEAR
GOD IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
00:13:43.700 --> 00:13:45.666
BECAUSE PERFECTED LOVE
CASTS OUT FEAR,
00:13:45.766 --> 00:13:48.200
AND GOD'S NOT GIVEN US
A SPIRIT OF FEAR.
00:13:48.300 --> 00:13:49.800
SO HE CORRECTED FOR
ABOUT TEN MINUTES
00:13:49.900 --> 00:13:52.533
WHAT I SAID THE NIGHT BEFORE,
AND THEN TO MY SURPRISE,
00:13:52.633 --> 00:13:54.200
HE INTRODUCED ME.
00:13:54.300 --> 00:13:55.500
REBECCA: WAIT.
00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:56.600
DID HE GIVE YOU A HEAD'S UP
THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT?
00:13:56.700 --> 00:13:57.300
JOHN: NO.
00:13:57.400 --> 00:13:58.300
REBECCA: WHAT?
00:13:58.400 --> 00:14:00.500
JOHN: I WAS TOTALLY
COMPLETELY SHOCKED.
00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:02.800
LISA LAUGHS ABOUT IT
BECAUSE THEY STOOD HER UP
00:14:02.900 --> 00:14:04.500
AND SAID, YOU'RE
WELCOME BACK HERE,
00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:06.700
AND DIDN'T SAY
ANYTHING TO ME.
00:14:06.800 --> 00:14:10.400
SO I REMEMBER THE NEXT
MORNING, I WENT OUT,
00:14:10.500 --> 00:14:12.900
AND I WAS REALLY ALARMED
BECAUSE THIS GUY
00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.466
HAD BEEN IN MINISTRY
MUCH LONGER THAN ME.
00:14:15.566 --> 00:14:17.334
AND I REMEMBER,
I SAID, GOD,
00:14:17.434 --> 00:14:19.334
I'VE HURT YOUR
CHURCH, I'M SO SORRY.
00:14:19.434 --> 00:14:22.034
AND I SAID, PLEASE SHOW
ME WHAT I'VE DONE WRONG.
00:14:22.134 --> 00:14:23.934
AND I FELT THE
PLEASURE OF THE LORD.
00:14:24.034 --> 00:14:26.367
I FELT THE SMILE THAT
I'M TALKING ABOUT.
00:14:26.467 --> 00:14:30.333
AND I REMEMBER, BEFORE
I WAS DONE PRAYING
00:14:30.433 --> 00:14:34.300
THAT SATURDAY MORNING NEAR THE
HOTEL I WAS STAYING AT,
00:14:34.400 --> 00:14:38.500
I WAS LITERALLY CRYING OUT
TO KNOW THE HOLY FEAR OF GOD.
00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:39.900
NOW, WHAT'S
INTERESTING IS,
00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:41.767
THAT CHURCH DOESN'T
EXIST ANYMORE.
00:14:41.867 --> 00:14:44.167
THAT PASTOR'S NOT IN
MINISTRY ANYMORE.
00:14:44.267 --> 00:14:47.733
AND AGAIN, IT COMES BACK TO
WHAT GIVES US LONGEVITY.
00:14:47.833 --> 00:14:51.967
PSALM 19:9 MAKES
THE STATEMENT -
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I'LL NEVER FORGET, I WAS
IN CAMBODIA
00:14:54.966 --> 00:14:57.600
AND THE LORD SPOKE TO ME AND
SAID, READ PSALM 19:9.
00:14:57.700 --> 00:14:58.867
I REMEMBER THE
NIGHT BEFORE
00:14:58.967 --> 00:15:02.033
A REAL MANIFESTATION OF THE
SPIRIT OF THE FEAR OF THE LORD
00:15:02.133 --> 00:15:04.967
HAPPENED IN KUALA
LUMPUR, MALAYSIA.
00:15:05.067 --> 00:15:07.133
AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE
IN THE MEETING SAID,
00:15:07.233 --> 00:15:09.400
I FEEL SO CLEAN INSIDE.
00:15:09.500 --> 00:15:12.600
AND I SAID, THAT EXACTLY
DESCRIBES WHAT I HAVE FELT
00:15:12.700 --> 00:15:15.267
ANYTIME I'VE BEEN IN THE
ATMOSPHERE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
00:15:15.367 --> 00:15:18.467
OF THE FEAR OF
THE LORD, I FEEL CLEAN.
00:15:18.567 --> 00:15:20.033
AND I REMEMBER THE NEXT
MORNING, GOD SPOKE TO ME.
00:15:20.133 --> 00:15:21.433
I WAS GETTING READY TO
PLAY BASKETBALL
00:15:21.533 --> 00:15:23.534
WITH THE BIBLE SCHOOL STUDENTS
IN MALAYSIA, RIGHT,
00:15:23.634 --> 00:15:25.267
IN KUALA LUMPUR.
00:15:25.367 --> 00:15:26.634
AND HE SAID, READ PSALM 19,
00:15:26.734 --> 00:15:28.134
AND I GET DOWN TO
VERSE 9, AND IT SAYS,
00:15:28.234 --> 00:15:30.867
THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS CLEAN
AND ENDURING FOREVER.
00:15:30.967 --> 00:15:32.767
AND I WENT, OH, MY
GOSH, THERE IT IS.
00:15:32.867 --> 00:15:34.333
BUT WHAT THE
HOLY SPIRIT HIGHLIGHTED
00:15:34.433 --> 00:15:35.934
WAS ENDURING FOREVER.
00:15:36.034 --> 00:15:38.700
AND THAT MORNING,
REBECCA, HE SAID TO ME,
00:15:38.800 --> 00:15:42.467
LUCIFER LED WORSHIP
RIGHT BEFORE MY THRONE.
00:15:42.567 --> 00:15:43.834
HE BEHELD MY GLORY.
00:15:43.934 --> 00:15:45.166
HE WAS ANOINTED TO DO IT.
00:15:45.266 --> 00:15:46.200
HE DIDN'T FEAR ME.
00:15:46.300 --> 00:15:48.567
HE DIDN'T ENDURE FOREVER.
00:15:48.667 --> 00:15:51.900
ADAM AND EVE WALKED IN THE
PRESENCE OF MY GLORY
00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:53.034
IN THE GARDEN.
00:15:53.134 --> 00:15:54.533
THEY DIDN'T FEAR ME.
00:15:54.633 --> 00:15:57.033
THEY DIDN'T ENDURE IN
THE GARDEN FOREVER.
00:15:57.133 --> 00:16:01.233
AND I REALIZED RIGHT THEN
WHY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT MINISTRY,
00:16:01.333 --> 00:16:03.334
WHY PEOPLE
HAVE LEFT THE CHURCH,
00:16:03.434 --> 00:16:05.333
WHY PEOPLE HAVE NOT
FINISHED WELL,
00:16:05.433 --> 00:16:08.867
IS BECAUSE THEY LACKED
THE HOLY FEAR OF GOD.
00:16:08.967 --> 00:16:12.233
REBECCA: SO I'M JUST
PROCESSING OUT LOUD.
00:16:12.333 --> 00:16:14.500
SO THE FEAR OF GOD, THAT'S
WHY YOU ALSO HAVE IT SAY,
00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:15.700
THE AWE OF GOD,
00:16:15.800 --> 00:16:18.933
BECAUSE IT'S A FEAR OF
NOT HAVING HIM
00:16:19.033 --> 00:16:21.900
AND IT'S ALSO BEING AWARE
OF HOW AWESOME HE IS.
00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.167
SO WHEN I THINK
ABOUT LUCIFER,
00:16:24.267 --> 00:16:26.367
HE WAS FILLED WITH PRIDE,
AND SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE
00:16:26.467 --> 00:16:29.400
HE GOT HIS FOCUS OFF OF
GOD AND ON HIMSELF.
00:16:29.500 --> 00:16:32.900
JOHN: PRIDE AND HUMILITY
ARE SO INTERESTING
00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.333
WHEN YOU BRING THEM
INTO THIS MIX.
00:16:35.433 --> 00:16:36.833
YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE
WORD HUMILITY
00:16:36.933 --> 00:16:38.633
AND THE FEAR OF THE LORD
COUPLED TOGETHER
00:16:38.733 --> 00:16:40.000
THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE.
00:16:40.100 --> 00:16:42.434
BECAUSE IF YOU FEAR GOD,
YOU'RE GOING TO WALK IN
00:16:42.534 --> 00:16:43.900
TRUE HUMILITY.
00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.466
IF YOU'RE TRULY
HUMBLE BEFORE GOD,
00:16:45.566 --> 00:16:49.833
NOT A FALSE HUMILITY,
THERE IS FALSE HUMILITY.
00:16:49.933 --> 00:16:53.666
DAVID WAS ACCUSED
OF BEING PROUD,
00:16:53.766 --> 00:16:55.534
AND YET GOD SAID HE WAS
A MAN AFTER MY HEART.
00:16:55.634 --> 00:16:59.500
HIS BROTHER SAID, YOU'RE
FULL OF CONCEIT, RIGHT.
00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.366
SO TRUE HUMILITY, IF SOMEBODY
TRULY WALKS IN HUMILITY,
00:17:02.466 --> 00:17:03.500
THEY'LL FEAR GOD.
00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.800
THE TWO RUN TOGETHER.
00:17:05.900 --> 00:17:08.900
PRIDE AND REBELLION
RUN TOGETHER.
00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.267
SO PRIDE AND THE LACK OF
THE FEAR OF THE LORD
00:17:11.367 --> 00:17:14.133
ARE SYNONYMOUSLY
RUNNING TOGETHER.
00:17:14.233 --> 00:17:15.134
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
00:17:15.234 --> 00:17:16.266
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:17:16.366 --> 00:17:20.366
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT
HOW PRIDE CAN CREEP IN,
00:17:20.466 --> 00:17:22.167
BECAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT
PEOPLE IN MINISTRY
00:17:22.267 --> 00:17:24.866
AND JUST IN LIFE IN GENERAL
WHO ARE WALKING WITH THE LORD.
00:17:24.966 --> 00:17:27.300
IT'S ALMOST LIKE, IT MAKES
ME THINK OF THAT VERSE.
00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:28.300
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT'S GOING ON
00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:30.334
IN THE CHURCH TODAY IS,
00:17:30.434 --> 00:17:31.433
IT SAYS IN JOHN, IT SAYS,
00:17:31.533 --> 00:17:33.234
DON'T LOVE THE WORLD OR
ANYTHING IN THE WORLD.
00:17:33.334 --> 00:17:35.634
AND THEN IT SAYS,
THE PRIDE OF LIFE,
00:17:35.734 --> 00:17:36.700
THE LUST OF THE EYES
00:17:36.800 --> 00:17:38.400
AND LUST OF THE FLESH, I THINK.
00:17:38.500 --> 00:17:39.700
DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE
THREE THINGS THAT CAN
00:17:39.800 --> 00:17:42.900
GET INTO THE HEART AND
CAUSE PRIDE TO COME IN?
00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:44.267
JOHN: ABSOLUTELY.
00:17:44.367 --> 00:17:47.300
I LOVE HOW ONE OF THE
TRANSLATIONS TRANSLATES IT
00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:48.867
PRIDE IN YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS.
00:17:48.967 --> 00:17:50.800
REBECCA: MM-HM.
00:17:50.900 --> 00:17:52.233
BUT IT'S JUST DECEPTION,
00:17:52.333 --> 00:17:53.466
TO BE PROUD IN
YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS.
00:17:53.566 --> 00:17:55.266
JOHN: IT SURE IS.
00:17:55.366 --> 00:17:57.334
TWO OF MY ABSOLUTE
FAVORITE SCRIPTURES
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IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, JESUS
IN JOHN 15:4 SAYS,
00:18:00.900 --> 00:18:03.666
WITHOUT ME, YOU
CAN DO NOTHING.
00:18:03.766 --> 00:18:04.567
OKAY.
00:18:04.667 --> 00:18:06.000
I LOVE THAT SCRIPTURE.
00:18:06.100 --> 00:18:07.567
I REMIND MYSELF
OF THAT SCRIPTURE.
00:18:07.667 --> 00:18:09.133
I REMIND OUR STAFF
OF THAT SCRIPTURE.
00:18:09.233 --> 00:18:12.934
WHEN GOD DOES GREAT, GREAT
THINGS AND WE STAND IN AWE,
00:18:13.034 --> 00:18:14.800
I SAY, GUYS,
REMEMBER, WITHOUT JESUS,
00:18:14.900 --> 00:18:16.266
WE CAN DO NOTHING.
00:18:16.366 --> 00:18:18.767
THE OTHER ONE IS, WHEN
JESUS SAYS IN LUKE 17,
00:18:18.867 --> 00:18:20.667
WHEN THE APOSTLE SAID,
INCREASE OUR FAITH,
00:18:20.767 --> 00:18:22.566
HE SAID, AFTER YOU'VE DONE
ALL THOSE THINGS
00:18:22.666 --> 00:18:24.166
YOU WERE COMMANDED TO DO, SAY,
00:18:24.266 --> 00:18:27.233
WE ARE UNPROFITABLE SERVANTS,
WE'VE ONLY DONE OUR DUTY.
00:18:27.333 --> 00:18:29.466
I THINK THOSE TWO
SCRIPTURES WE SHOULD
00:18:29.566 --> 00:18:31.967
ALWAYS KEEP BEFORE US
BECAUSE THEY SPEAK OF
00:18:32.067 --> 00:18:33.534
TRUE HUMILITY.
00:18:33.634 --> 00:18:36.167
THEY SHOW US THAT ANYTHING
WE ACCOMPLISH
00:18:36.267 --> 00:18:39.400
THAT'S ANY GOOD AT ALL
HAS ONLY BEEN GIVEN TO US
00:18:39.500 --> 00:18:40.800
BY GOD TO DO IT,
00:18:40.900 --> 00:18:42.400
AND HE GIVES US THE
PLEASURE OF WATCHING HIM
00:18:42.500 --> 00:18:43.633
DO IT THROUGH US.
00:18:43.733 --> 00:18:47.300
I LOOK AT ALL THESE
PASTORS AND THESE WOMEN
00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.034
THAT PRAY THAT COME
UP TO ME AND SAY,
00:18:49.134 --> 00:18:51.367
I'M PRAYING FOR YOU AND I
KNOW THEY'RE PRAYING FOR ME.
00:18:51.467 --> 00:18:52.467
AND I THINK, THESE PEOPLE,
00:18:52.567 --> 00:18:54.333
THESE PASTORS IN THESE
RURAL AREAS
00:18:54.433 --> 00:18:56.100
WITH THREE HUNDRED PEOPLE
IN THEIR CHURCHES
00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:57.433
HAVE BEEN
FAITHFUL FOR YEARS,
00:18:57.533 --> 00:19:00.367
THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA STAY ON
THE FRONT LINES OF HEAVEN
00:19:00.467 --> 00:19:01.934
AND WE'RE ALL GOING
TO SALUTE THEM
00:19:02.034 --> 00:19:05.634
AND WE'RE GONNA THANK THEM FOR
BEING SO FAITHFUL TO JESUS.
00:19:05.734 --> 00:19:07.633
ANYTHING I'VE DONE.
00:19:07.733 --> 00:19:12.933
WE'VE NOW GIVEN ALMOST,
WE ARE OVER 59 MILLION
00:19:13.033 --> 00:19:15.466
RESOURCES TO
PASTORS AND LEADERS.
00:19:15.566 --> 00:19:17.633
AND LITERALLY ALL
OVER THE WORLD, RIGHT.
00:19:17.733 --> 00:19:19.500
AND PEOPLE JUST GO, WOW.
00:19:19.600 --> 00:19:22.133
AND I GO, NO, THIS NEVER
WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE
00:19:22.233 --> 00:19:24.067
HAD IT NOT BEEN JESUS
00:19:24.167 --> 00:19:25.900
AND HAD IT NOT BEEN
A BUNCH OF PEOPLE
00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.300
COMING TOGETHER TO
DO THIS TOGETHER.
00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:32.134
ANYTHING WE DO, REBECCA,
ANYTHING THAT IS
00:19:32.234 --> 00:19:34.066
WORTH ETERNAL VALUE,
00:19:34.166 --> 00:19:36.233
GOD GAVE US THE
ABILITY TO DO IT.
00:19:36.333 --> 00:19:39.100
HE GAVE US THE PLEASURE OF
WATCHING HIM DO IT THROUGH US.
00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:40.967
AND THAT'S THE WAY
WE NEED TO STAY.
00:19:41.067 --> 00:19:43.133
GOD COULD HAVE SAID TO ME,
I WANT YOU TO BE
00:19:43.233 --> 00:19:46.667
ONE OF THOSE MEN THAT GET ON
THEIR KNEES AND PRAY
00:19:46.767 --> 00:19:49.800
AND NOBODY WILL EVER SEE WHAT
YOU DID UNTIL HEAVEN.
00:19:49.900 --> 00:19:51.700
WHAT A PRIVILEGE
TO DO THAT.
00:19:51.800 --> 00:19:53.233
OR HE COULD HAVE SAID, I
WANT YOU TO BE A PASTOR
00:19:53.333 --> 00:19:55.567
IN A RURAL CHURCH.
00:19:55.667 --> 00:19:58.834
IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF
ME, MY PERSONALITY,
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ANYTHING ELSE, IT WAS
JUST HIS CHOOSING.
00:20:01.433 --> 00:20:03.500
WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHAT
EVERYONE DOES
00:20:03.600 --> 00:20:05.800
IN THE BODY OF CHRIST
IS SO IMPORTANT,
00:20:05.900 --> 00:20:08.033
SO, SO IMPORTANT.
00:20:08.133 --> 00:20:10.867
REBECCA: THOSE PASTORS
OF SMALL CHURCHES
00:20:10.967 --> 00:20:12.067
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE
INTERCEDING,
00:20:12.167 --> 00:20:13.900
PEOPLE WHO - ANYONE WHO'S
DOING SOMETHING
00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.667
THAT MAYBE NOT A
SINGLE PERSON WILL EVER SEE
00:20:16.767 --> 00:20:17.900
OR THINK IT'S IMPORTANT,
00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.333
BUT IF GOD'S
CALLING THEM TO DO IT,
00:20:19.433 --> 00:20:21.666
IT IS IMPORTANT, AND IT
MIGHT BE SOME OF THE MOST
00:20:21.766 --> 00:20:23.166
IMPORTANT WORK
IN THE KINGDOM.
00:20:23.266 --> 00:20:25.033
BECAUSE HOW WE MEASURE
THINGS ON EARTH
00:20:25.133 --> 00:20:27.100
IS NOT THE SAME AS HOW
GOD MEASURED THINGS.
00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.733
AND JESUS TALKS ABOUT THAT
ALL THE TIME IN SCRIPTURE,
00:20:29.833 --> 00:20:31.433
EVEN GOD SAYING, I DON'T
LOOK AT THE OUTWARD,
00:20:31.533 --> 00:20:32.800
I LOOK AT THE INWARD.
00:20:32.900 --> 00:20:35.533
I THINK ABOUT THAT VERSE
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WRAP SOON,
00:20:35.633 --> 00:20:37.167
IT SAYS, THE EYES
OF THE LORD
00:20:37.267 --> 00:20:38.934
ARE SEARCHING THROUGHOUT
THE EARTH
00:20:39.034 --> 00:20:41.100
FOR THOSE WHOSE HEARTS
ARE FULLY DEVOTED TO HIM.
00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:42.867
AND I THINK ABOUT THE TIME
AND SEASON
00:20:42.967 --> 00:20:43.833
THAT WE'RE LIVING IN.
00:20:43.933 --> 00:20:47.034
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN
CHRIST WILL RETURN,
00:20:47.134 --> 00:20:49.067
BUT I THINK IT'S CONFIDENT
TO SAY THAT WE ARE IN DAYS
00:20:49.167 --> 00:20:51.233
THAT SEEM LIKE
THE DAYS OF NOAH.
00:20:51.333 --> 00:20:52.800
AND WE NEED TO
BE PREPARED.
00:20:52.900 --> 00:20:54.266
WHAT WOULD YOU
MESSAGE BE, I THINK,
00:20:54.366 --> 00:20:56.533
TO THE BELIEVERS
WHO ARE LISTENING?
00:20:56.633 --> 00:20:58.400
WHERE SHOULD
THEIR FOCUS BE,
00:20:58.500 --> 00:21:01.833
AND HOW DO THEY PREPARE
FOR HIS RETURN?
00:21:01.933 --> 00:21:04.633
JOHN: I WOULD SAY
TO EVERYONE LISTENING,
00:21:04.733 --> 00:21:07.667
PLAN LIKE HE'S NOT COMING
FOR ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS,
00:21:07.767 --> 00:21:10.700
AND LIVE LIKE HE'S
COMING IN AN HOUR.
00:21:10.800 --> 00:21:12.566
REBECCA: THAT'S
PERFECT ADVICE.
00:21:12.666 --> 00:21:13.766
YEAH.
00:21:13.866 --> 00:21:18.033
AND JUST BE PREPARED TO,
WHATEVER THE COST IS,
00:21:18.133 --> 00:21:20.200
AND TO COUNT
THE COST, ALSO,
00:21:20.300 --> 00:21:22.634
TO COUNT THE COST BEFORE
YOU DECIDE TO FOLLOW HIM.
00:21:22.734 --> 00:21:27.067
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE
WILLING TO PAY WHATEVER PRICE,
00:21:27.167 --> 00:21:29.167
BUT IT'S A PRICE
THAT'S WORTH IT FOR HIM.
00:21:29.267 --> 00:21:31.134
JOHN: WHEN YOU THINK OF
HOW FULLY AND COMPLETELY
00:21:31.234 --> 00:21:34.766
HE GAVE HIMSELF
TO REDEEM US,
00:21:34.866 --> 00:21:35.967
HE'S NOT COMING BACK
FOR A BRIDE
00:21:36.067 --> 00:21:38.167
THAT'S ONLY GIVING A PORTION
OF HER HEART TO HIM.
00:21:38.267 --> 00:21:39.767
HE'S COMING BACK FOR A
BRIDE THAT'S
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GIVING HERSELF TO HIM THE WAY
HE GAVE HIMSELF TO HER.
00:21:42.600 --> 00:21:45.133
AND I STILL, IT REDUCES
ME TO TEARS WHEN I THINK ABOUT
00:21:45.233 --> 00:21:47.400
WHAT HE LEFT, I
CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE IT.
00:21:47.500 --> 00:21:50.134
AND HE KNEW THAT BY THE
TIME THEY WERE DONE BEATING HIM
00:21:50.234 --> 00:21:52.133
THAT HE WOULDN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE
A HUMAN BEING ANYMORE
00:21:52.233 --> 00:21:53.666
BY THE TIME HE GOT
TO THE CROSS.
00:21:53.766 --> 00:21:55.133
HE KNEW IT.
00:21:55.233 --> 00:21:57.033
AND HE DID IT JUST
BECAUSE HE LOVED US.
00:21:57.133 --> 00:21:59.800
HOW CAN I NOT GIVE
MYSELF FULLY TO HIM?
00:21:59.900 --> 00:22:05.934
HOW CAN I SEEK TO PLEASE
MEN AND DISAPPOINT HIM?
00:22:06.034 --> 00:22:09.433
I THINK THE MORE
YOU WALK WITH JESUS,
00:22:09.533 --> 00:22:12.933
I THINK WHEN YOU'RE A
BABY CHRISTIAN, YOU FEAR,
00:22:13.033 --> 00:22:16.500
AND THIS IS A HEALTHY
FEAR, DISOBEYING HIM.
00:22:16.600 --> 00:22:17.667
I THINK THE LONGER
YOU WALK WITH HIM,
00:22:17.767 --> 00:22:21.667
YOU FEAR
DISAPPOINTING HIM.
00:22:21.767 --> 00:22:22.500
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
00:22:22.600 --> 00:22:23.500
REBECCA: YEAH.
00:22:23.600 --> 00:22:24.567
AND I THINK THE OTHER
THING IS, TOO, IS,
00:22:24.667 --> 00:22:26.633
I THINK THE TEMPTATION
FOR THE FEAR OF MAN,
00:22:26.733 --> 00:22:27.666
TO GIVE INTO THAT FEAR,
IS BECAUSE
00:22:27.766 --> 00:22:31.033
THEY'RE PHYSICALLY
IN FRONT OF YOU.
00:22:31.133 --> 00:22:33.600
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE CLOSE
PROXIMITY TO JESUS,
00:22:33.700 --> 00:22:36.066
HE BECOMES MORE
AWARE TO YOU.
00:22:36.166 --> 00:22:38.733
AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
CLOSE RELATIONSHIP
00:22:38.833 --> 00:22:39.866
WITH HIM TO UNDERSTAND,
00:22:39.966 --> 00:22:41.133
LIKE YOU SAID,
WHEN YOU MINISTER,
00:22:41.233 --> 00:22:42.433
YOU TUNE
INTO THE LORD.
00:22:42.533 --> 00:22:43.567
IS THIS PLEASING TO YOU?
00:22:43.667 --> 00:22:46.534
AND IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT
THE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF YOU
00:22:46.634 --> 00:22:48.133
AND SEE THEM.
00:22:48.233 --> 00:22:51.100
SO YOU HAVE TO TURN AWAY I
THINK FROM WHAT YOUR FLESH SEES
00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.267
AND GO INTO YOUR SPIRIT
AND WHAT IS YOUR SPIRIT
00:22:53.367 --> 00:22:55.000
COMMUNING WITH
THE HOLY SPIRIT SAYING?
00:22:55.100 --> 00:22:56.767
HE SAYS, GOOD JOB, SON.
00:22:56.867 --> 00:22:58.267
YOU PREACHED WHAT I
NEEDED YOU TO PREACH,
00:22:58.367 --> 00:22:59.967
THINKING ABOUT THAT STORY.
00:23:00.067 --> 00:23:02.100
SO PROXIMITY,
INTIMACY WITH JESUS,
00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:04.067
ARE ALL PIVOTAL THINGS
00:23:04.167 --> 00:23:06.367
TO KEEP A
HEALTHY FEAR OF GOD,
00:23:06.467 --> 00:23:09.100
BECAUSE IT'S THAT
FEAR OF LOSING HIM.
00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.633
THE CHURCH IS GOING
THROUGH DIFFERENT THINGS.
00:23:12.733 --> 00:23:13.967
I THINK PROPHETICALLY,
00:23:14.067 --> 00:23:15.500
WHAT WOULD YOU SPEAK
OVER THE CHURCH
00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:18.000
AND WHAT IS
GOD SHOWING YOU?
00:23:18.100 --> 00:23:19.567
JOHN: I BELIEVE WE'RE
HEADING TO ONE OF
00:23:19.667 --> 00:23:22.300
THE GREATEST MOVES OF GOD
OUR NATION'S EVER SEEN.
00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.600
I HONESTLY DO.
00:23:24.700 --> 00:23:28.467
I GOT BORN AGAIN AT THE END
OF THE JESUS REVOLUTION.
00:23:28.567 --> 00:23:30.600
THAT REALLY, SOME PEOPLE
SAY IT ENDED IN '73.
00:23:30.700 --> 00:23:31.433
I DISAGREE.
00:23:31.533 --> 00:23:34.166
I THINK IT ENDED
IN THE EARLY '80S.
00:23:34.266 --> 00:23:37.000
AND I THINK, MOSES
ON THE BACK SIDE
00:23:37.100 --> 00:23:38.400
OF THE DESERT FOR FORTY YEARS,
00:23:38.500 --> 00:23:40.667
FORTY IS A SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER IN SCRIPTURE.
00:23:40.767 --> 00:23:44.067
JESUS IN THE
WILDERNESS, FORTY DAYS.
00:23:44.167 --> 00:23:48.567
I REALLY BELIEVE WE'RE
AT THE BEGINNINGS.
00:23:48.667 --> 00:23:50.834
AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO
START WITH A SPRINKLE
00:23:50.934 --> 00:23:53.000
AND IT'S GOING TO END
UP BEING A TORRENTIAL DOWNPOUR
00:23:53.100 --> 00:23:56.133
OF RAIN
IN A GOOD WAY.
00:23:56.233 --> 00:23:58.734
BUT I THINK WE'RE ON
THE VERY VERGE OF IT.
00:23:58.834 --> 00:24:00.866
I THINK WHAT HAPPENED
UP IN ASBURY
00:24:00.966 --> 00:24:05.667
AND THE OTHER PLACES IN AMERICA
ARE JUST LITTLE DROPS.
00:24:05.767 --> 00:24:09.566
BUT I'M SEEING THE ENEMY
THINKING HE'S GOT OUR NATION.
00:24:09.666 --> 00:24:13.700
HE'S GOT OUR NATION IN
HIS GRIP, WE'RE DONE,
00:24:13.800 --> 00:24:15.800
I SEE GOD LAUGHING.
00:24:15.900 --> 00:24:17.767
I SEE GOD
SAYING, OH, YEAH,
00:24:17.867 --> 00:24:21.367
I HAVE MILLIONS THAT
HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE,
00:24:21.467 --> 00:24:24.300
AND THEY'VE BEEN PRAYING,
AND I'M ABOUT TO SHOW UP,
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:25.667
AND YOU'RE GOING
TO SCATTER
00:24:25.767 --> 00:24:28.034
AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
HAVE THIS NATION.
00:24:28.134 --> 00:24:29.834
I REALLY BELIEVE IT.
00:24:29.934 --> 00:24:31.800
I THINK HE'S GIVING
US ONE MORE CHANCE.
00:24:31.900 --> 00:24:33.566
THAT'S WHAT I
REALLY BELIEVE.
00:24:33.666 --> 00:24:35.867
AND SO - AND I REALLY
BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO
00:24:35.967 --> 00:24:39.000
REALLY START WITH THE GEN ZS
AND THE MILLENNIALS.
00:24:39.100 --> 00:24:41.000
I THINK THEY'RE
GOING TO GRAB IT.
00:24:41.100 --> 00:24:43.866
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE
ONES THAT REALLY SPARK
00:24:43.966 --> 00:24:46.000
A MOVE OF GOD IN
THIS NATION.
00:24:46.100 --> 00:24:49.634
REBECCA: FINAL THOUGHT, HOW
IMPORTANT IS REPENTANCE?
00:24:49.734 --> 00:24:53.966
JOHN: IT'S, THERE'S NO
FAITH WITHOUT REPENTANCE.
00:24:54.066 --> 00:24:55.034
OKAY.
00:24:55.134 --> 00:24:56.934
YOUR FAITH IS COUNTERFEIT
IF YOU DON'T REPENT.
00:24:57.034 --> 00:24:59.600
AND I THINK THE EASIEST
WAY OF LOOKING AT REPENTANCE
00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:04.667
IS WHEN A YOUNG MAN
PROPOSES TO A YOUNG WOMAN.
00:25:04.767 --> 00:25:07.833
IF THAT YOUNG WOMAN
SAYS TO HIM, YOU KNOW,
00:25:07.933 --> 00:25:10.300
TONY WAS MY HIGH SCHOOL
SWEETHEART FOR TWO YEARS,
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.433
I'D LIKE A COUPLE NIGHTS
WITH HIM A YEAR.
00:25:13.533 --> 00:25:15.834
AARON, I WAS PINNED
TO HIM IN COLLEGE,
00:25:15.934 --> 00:25:17.267
I'D LIKE FOUR
NIGHTS A YEAR.
00:25:17.367 --> 00:25:21.133
BUT YOU'LL GET 350 NIGHTS
A YEAR AND YOU'LL BE MY FAVORITE
00:25:21.233 --> 00:25:22.767
AND I'LL
LOVE YOU THE MOST.
00:25:22.867 --> 00:25:25.667
NO YOUNG MAN IN THIS
ENTIRE NATION
00:25:25.767 --> 00:25:27.734
WOULD ACCEPT THAT PROPOSAL.
00:25:27.834 --> 00:25:30.500
JESUS ISN'T COMING BACK
FOR A CHURCH
00:25:30.600 --> 00:25:32.433
THAT HASN'T BROKEN UP
WITH THE SINS
00:25:32.533 --> 00:25:34.466
THAT PUT THE NAILS
THROUGH HIS HANDS,
00:25:34.566 --> 00:25:37.666
THAT TOLERATE IT,
THAT IGNORE IT.
00:25:37.766 --> 00:25:40.133
HE'S COMING BACK FOR A
CHURCH THAT BROKE UP,
00:25:40.233 --> 00:25:42.133
JUST LIKE A BRIDE WHEN SHE
WALKS DOWN THAT AISLE
00:25:42.233 --> 00:25:44.734
AND SAYS GOODBYE TO
3.9 BILLION GUYS,
00:25:44.834 --> 00:25:46.933
HE'S COMING BACK FOR
A CHURCH THAT SAYS,
00:25:47.033 --> 00:25:50.200
I AM NOT GOING TO ENGAGE
WITH, FLIRT WITH,
00:25:50.300 --> 00:25:52.600
OR EMBRACE ANYTHING
THAT OFFENDS YOU.
00:25:52.700 --> 00:25:56.067
THAT'S TRUE REPENTANCE.
00:25:56.167 --> 00:25:57.600
AND IF YOU
DON'T HAVE THAT,
00:25:57.700 --> 00:26:00.100
IF YOU JUST PRAY A FORMULA
SINNER'S PRAYER
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.800
AND YOU STILL HAVE ALL THOSE
IDOLS IN YOUR HEART,
00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:04.234
YOU'RE NOT REALLY SAVED.
00:26:04.334 --> 00:26:06.634
YOU HAVE A
COUNTERFEIT FAITH.
00:26:06.734 --> 00:26:09.133
BECAUSE HEBREWS TELLS US,
THE FIRST FOUNDATION
00:26:09.233 --> 00:26:11.333
OF THE CHURCH IS REPENTANCE
FROM DEAD WORKS.
00:26:11.433 --> 00:26:13.600
THE NEXT FOUNDATION
IS FAITH TOWARDS GOD.
00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:15.500
SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU
DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FOUNDATION
00:26:15.600 --> 00:26:18.033
TO HAVE FAITH
IN GOD UNTIL YOU REPENT.
00:26:18.133 --> 00:26:20.700
AND THAT'S WHAT THE DISCIPLES
WENT EVERYWHERE DOING.
00:26:20.800 --> 00:26:22.300
THEY WENT PREACHING
REPENTANCE
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.033
FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS.
00:26:24.133 --> 00:26:26.767
REBECCA: AND WE CAN
JUST KEEP ON REPENTING.
00:26:26.867 --> 00:26:28.666
NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU'RE
WALKING WITH THE LORD,
00:26:28.766 --> 00:26:30.900
ANYTIME WE BEGIN TO TURN,
WE JUST TURN BACK.
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.567
REPENTANCE ISN'T
A BAD THING,
00:26:32.667 --> 00:26:34.466
IT'S SOMETHING THAT BRINGS
US BACK CLOSER TO GOD.
00:26:34.566 --> 00:26:35.833
JOHN: IT'S A
BEAUTIFUL WORD, YES.
00:26:35.933 --> 00:26:37.000
REBECCA: AND IT TURNS
US BACK INTO THE DIRECTION
00:26:37.100 --> 00:26:38.766
WE NEED TO BE,
BACK TO HIM.
00:26:38.866 --> 00:26:40.600
AND SO I THINK PEOPLE
THINK IT'S DIRTY
00:26:40.700 --> 00:26:42.367
OR THEY THINK, YOU KNOW,
AND IT'S LIKE,
00:26:42.467 --> 00:26:44.434
NO, REPENTANCE IS A GIFT
FOR US FROM THE LORD
00:26:44.534 --> 00:26:46.533
TO COME BACK TO HIM,
00:26:46.633 --> 00:26:48.733
NO MATTER HOW LONG WE'VE
BEEN WALKING WITH HIM.
00:26:48.833 --> 00:26:50.066
WELL, WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
00:26:50.166 --> 00:26:52.167
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
00:26:52.267 --> 00:26:53.733
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
WANT TO GET THE BOOK,
00:26:53.833 --> 00:26:54.600
WHERE CAN THEY GET IT?
00:26:54.700 --> 00:26:55.800
JOHN: JUST
GO TO AMAZON.
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EVERYBODY'S PRIME MEMBERS.
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AND ACTUALLY, AMAZON RIGHT
NOW HAS GOT IT FOR 30% OFF.
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SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE
CHEAPEST PLACE
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YOU CAN GET IT.
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YOU'LL HAVE IT AT YOUR
DOORSTEP THE NEXT DAY.
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AND WHAT IS REALLY FUN
ABOUT THIS BOOK IS,
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I PRAYED.
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I SAID, HOLY SPIRIT,
PEOPLE AREN'T READING.
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HOW DO I DO THIS?
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AND HE GAVE ME THE IDEA
OF DOING SHORT CHAPTERS.
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SO THERE'S 42 CHAPTERS.
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AND ALSO, IN APPENDIX A,
THERE'S A LITTLE QR CODE
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THAT I HAVE 42 FOUR-MINUTE
VIDEOS, AND THEY'RE FREE.
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YOU DON'T HAVE
TO PAY FOR THEM.
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SO ONCE YOU BUY THE BOOK,
NOT ONLY DO YOU GET
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THESE SHORT CHAPTERS,
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YOU GET THE FIVE P'S,
I CALL THEM,
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AND THAT IS THE PASSAGE,
THAT'S THE POINT,
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THE PONDER, THE PRAYER,
AND THE PROFESSION.
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BUT I SET IT UP IN A WAY
THAT IT COULD BE A DEVOTIONAL
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WHERE YOU COULD
REALLY GET THIS IN YOU.
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IT'S JUST GOT
SHORT CHAPTERS.
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SO YOU CAN GET THROUGH
THE CHAPTER
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IN FIVE TO SEVEN MINUTES.
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REBECCA:
THAT'S AWESOME.
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WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.
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JOHN: IT'S A PLEASURE.