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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: THANKS FOR TUNING IN
TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF ON AIR WITH REBECCA.
I RECENTLY SAT WITH ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE,
DR. KYNAN BRIDGES.
AND WE HAD A VERY ENGAGING CONVERSATION.
IT WAS SO GOOD THAT WE COULDN'T FIT IT INTO ONE EPISODE,
SO LET'S PICK IT UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF.
REBECCA LAMB WEISS: BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT
WHEN ALL OF THESE HOLLYWOOD ACTORS WERE COMING OUT
ABOUT WHEN -- THEY'LL TALK ABOUT
ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF TOPICS, AND THEY'RE SO PASSIONATE
ABOUT IT.
BUT WITH THIS WHOLE CANCEL CULTURE MENTALITY,
WHEN THEY WOULD SPEAK OUT AGAINST THESE PEOPLE,
RIGHT, SOMEONE WOULD BE LIFTED UP FOR SOMETHING
THAT THEY SAID AND THEN EVERYONE WOULD CANCEL THEM,
AND THEN ALL THESE HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE WOULD COME OUT
AND SAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DID THIS.
AND I REMEMBER IT REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING,
AND IT MADE ME FEEL GROSS, AND I THOUGHT,
WHO DO THESE PEOPLE REMIND ME OF, THESE HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES.
AND THEN I PUT IT TOGETHER AND I GO, OH, MY GOSH,
THESE REMIND ME OF THE RELIGIOUS CHRISTIANS
I GREW UP WITH BECAUSE THEY WERE HYPOCRITES.
DR. KYNAN BRIDGES: MM.
REBECCA: IT WAS THAT SAME KIND OF SPIRIT
WHERE IT WAS LIKE, THERE'S NO REDEMPTION FOR YOU.
DR. BRIDGES: EXACTLY.
REBECCA: YOU'VE DONE WRONG, LEGALISTIC.
AND THEY'RE HOLDING UP THIS STANDARD.
AND THAT'S NOT THE GOSPEL AT ALL, LIKE YOU SAID.
DR. BRIDGES: IT'S NOT.
REBECCA: THE GOSPEL OF THE LORD IS FOR REDEMPTION,
IT'S FOR RECONCILIATION, IT'S FOR FORGIVENESS.
YOU JUST HAVE TO REPENT.
AND GOD DOESN'T MAKE IT DIFFICULT.
HE DID THE DIFFICULT PART FOR US.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S GOOD, COME ON.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S WHY CANCEL CULTURE IS SO ANTI-GOD
AND ANTI-GOSPEL BECAUSE IT'S NOT MAKING A WAY FOR RESTORATION.
DR. BRIDGES: EXACTLY.
REBECCA: IT WANTS TO SHUT PEOPLE DOWN ALTOGETHER.
AND YOU BROUGHT UP SUCH A GOOD POINT.
ALL OF US DESERVE TO BE CANCELED BECAUSE WE'VE ALL MESSED UP.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: THAT'S WHAT BLEW MY MIND WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE
WERE SO WILLING TO JUST CONDEMN PEOPLE
AND CALL THEM GUILTY.
I SAID, IF YOUR LIFE WAS PUT UP BEFORE THE WORLD,
I'M SURE THERE'S SOMETHING THATYOU'VEDONE.
DR. BRIDGES: NOT JUST THAT,
BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE THE MOST GUILTY OF ALL.
THAT'S THE IRONY OF IT ALL.
REBECCA: I KNOW.
DR. BRIDGES: I THINK ABOUT THE STORY OF JESUS
AND THE WOMAN CAUGHT IN ADULTERY.
I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS MAYBE IN A WAY
YOU'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE.
SO THE PHARISEES AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS COME TO HIM
WITH STONES IN THEIR HAND AND SAYS MOSES SAYS
THIS WOMAN OUGHT TO BE STONED.
SHE WAS CAUGHT IN THE ACT -- I WANT TO PUT EMPHASIS ON THAT.
SHE WAS CAUGHT IN THE ACT.
AND THE LAST TIME I CHECKED,
IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO, RIGHT.
SO SHE WAS CAUGHT IN THE ACT.
AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THEY SAID,
THIS ONE OUGHT TO BE STONED.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?
AND JESUS DIDN'T ANSWER THEM.
HE SAID, LET HE THAT IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.
AND OF COURSE, THEY DROPPED THE STONES AND THEY LEFT.
AND SHE SAYS, LORD.
HE SAYS, WHERE ARE YOUR ACCUSERS?
AND HE SAYS, NEITHER DO I ACCUSE YOU.
BUT LET ME SHOW YOU ONE LITTLE ELEMENT
THAT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT.
WHERE WAS THE MAN?
IF THEY WERE CAUGHT IN THE ACT,
WHERE WAS THE MAN WHO COMMITTED ADULTERY?
THEY JUST BROUGHT THE WOMAN OUT.
COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT HE WAS HOLDING A STONE?
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S CANCEL CULTURE.
SOME OF THE MOST GUILTY OF OUR NUMBERS ARE THE ONES
LEADING THE CHARGE FOR THE CANCEL CULTURE
BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO RID THE RESISTANCE
TO WHAT THEY REALLY DESIRE TO DO.
AND THAT'S WHY --
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
DR. BRIDGES: -- THE CHURCH HAS TO REALLY BE CAREFUL.
SEE, THE CHURCH IS PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE TO THIS
BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT LOVE AND WE'RE ABOUT JUSTICE
AND WE'RE ABOUT HELPING THE POOR, THE DOWNTRODDEN.
SO OUR KNEE-JERK REACTION IS TO ALIGN WITH MOVEMENTS.
OH, BLACK LIVES MATTER.
OKAY, LET'S GO WITH THAT.
AND ANYBODY THAT SAYS, SO ANYBODY WHO SAYS ANYTHING
THAT'S RACIST, RIGHT, WE HAVE TO DESTROY THAT PERSON,
REMOVE THEM FROM THE EQUATION, RIGHT.
BUT THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS THIS: WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE LEADING THIS CHARGE?
THE RAPPERS, THE ENTERTAINERS,
WHO USED ALL KINDS OF EPITAPHS IN THEIR MUSIC?
YOU HAVE RAPPERS WHO WILL GET GRAMMY'S FOR MAKING SONGS
ABOUT WOMEN THAT ARE DEGRADING AND MISOGYNISTIC
GETTING UP AND SAYING, WE NEED TO STAND FOR #METOO.
IT'S CRAZY.
REBECCA: I KNOW.
DR. BRIDGES: IT'S INSANE.
IT'S A HOT MESS.
AND SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY, THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
SO WE, AS A CHURCH, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO AT SOME POINT SAY,
OKAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO FOR THIS.
REBECCA: SEE, IT'S SO INTERESTING THAT YOU SAID THAT,
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS
FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR HOW THE WORLD IS PREYING ON
GOOD CHRISTIANS' REAL KIND HEARTS AND GOODNESS,
AND THEY'RE TAKING THAT BUT THEY'RE --
BECAUSE CHRISTIANS ARE WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE,
THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING,
BUT THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT THEY'RE EXTORTING IT
FOR AN AGENDA THAT'S EVIL AND ANTI-GOD.
DR. BRIDGES: EXACTLY.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S THE DECEPTION BEHIND IT.
IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TRUTH AND JUSTICE
AND WE WANT TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE HURTING.
WE WANT ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT WE WANT TO DO IT GOD'S WAY.
DR. BRIDGES: EXACTLY.
REBECCA: AND WE DON'T WANT TO SPREAD A KINGDOM
THAT'S ANTI-GOD.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT A FEW MONTHS AGO,
I GO TO A REALLY GREAT CHURCH,
AND THEY DID THIS THING WHERE THEY SAID,
THIS WEEK, WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS TO PRAY FOR THE --
WALK AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE
IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I ALWAYS LIKE TO ALWAYS BE IN ALIGNMENT
WITH MY CHURCH AND I BELIEVE IN LOCAL CHURCH
AND SUBMITTING TO AUTHORITY AND ALL OF THAT.
AND SO I WAS LIKE, I WAS ACTUALLY DRIVING.
I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD AND HE WAS IN THE BACK,
AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT,
I WAS HAVING A -- I WAS WORSHIPING,
AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT,
I'M GOING TO PRAY AND DRIVE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I ENDED UP BEING IN THE SPIRIT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT,
BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS AS I SAW THE BACK OF
SOMEONE'S CAR AND I SAW -- I DON'T EVEN SEE
WHAT POLITICIAN IT WAS OR WHAT CAMPAIGN IT WAS,
BUT IT WAS SOMETHING ABOUT ELECT THIS PERSON.
THIS PERSON'S GOING TO FIX OUR ISSUES.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS WHATEVER PARTY OR WHATEVER CAUSE,
THAT'S ALWAYS THE PLATFORM.
AND GOD SPOKE TO ME AND HE SAID,
PEOPLE WANT TO TURN TO SOMEONE TO SOLVE THEIR ISSUES,
AND YET THAT PERSON WON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE ME.
DR. BRIDGES: WOW.
REBECCA: AND I WAS JUST LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS,
IT'S SO RIGHT, IT'S LIKE, WHY DO WE KEEP LOOKING TO PEOPLE
WHO DON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE GOD
OR ANTI-GOD TO TRY TO FIX THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS?
THE WORLD'S -- WHERE DO THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS COME FROM?
DR. BRIDGES: YEP.
REBECCA: THEY COME FROM SIN,
FROM THE FALLEN MEN AND FROM THE DEVIL AND HIS DEMONS
WORKING IN THE WORLD.
SO WHY IS WE, AS THE CHURCH,
ARE TRYING TO PARTNER UP WITH THESE PEOPLE
AND COME IN ALIGNMENT WITH THEM, AND IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE
THE DECEPTION BEHIND IT BECAUSE THEY COME AS A GOOD.
JUST LIKE THE SNAKE IN THE GARDEN.
DR. BRIDGES: EXACTLY.
REBECCA: HE SEEMS GOOD, HE SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A GOOD THING
WHEN REALLY IT'S DIABOLICAL.
DR. BRIDGES: VERY DIABOLICAL.
IT SAYS IN THE BOOK OF ISAIAH,
WOE TO THEM WHO CALL GOOD EVIL, AND EVIL GOOD;
WHO MISTAKE LIGHT FOR DARKNESS,
AND DARKNESS FOR LIGHT.
THE GREAT DECEPTION OF THE END TIMES IS NOT EVIL.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: THE GREAT DECEPTION IS NOT EVIL.
THE GREAT DECEPTION IS GOOD WITHOUT GOD.
REBECCA: YES.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT IS THE DECEPTION OF THIS AGE,
THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE SOME SORT OF RELATIVE GOOD APART FROM GOD.
GOING BACK TO THE #METOO EXAMPLE.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S HUMANISM.
DR. BRIDGES: IT IS SECULAR HUMANISM.
I GREW UP IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA,
WENT TO A HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY
AND ALL OF THAT.
I'VE DONE CIVIL RIGHTS TOURS
WITH THE ACTUAL CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS: DR. JOSEPH LOWERY,
REVERAND JAMES ORANGE, AND JOHN LEWIS.
I'VE MARCHED WITH THESE GUYS.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS A PART
OF THE UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FOR IT AND THE NAACP,
ALL THESE DIFFERENT INITIATIVES THAT I WAS APART OF.
AND WHAT I BEGAN TO SEE WAS THE DECEPTION.
REBECCA: MM-HM.
DR. BRIDGES: I BEGAN TO SEE
THAT RACE BECAME MORE IMPORTANT THAN RELATIONSHIP.
I BEGAN TO SEE THAT THE MELANIN IN MY SKIN HAD BECOME A GOD.
OR THE LACK THEREOF.
AND GOD BEGAN TO DEAL WITH ME,
AND I THINK YOU KNOW THE VIDEO I DID CALLED
"THE DAY I STOPPED BEING 'BLACK'",
AND PEOPLE WERE INFLAMED BY IT, BUT IT WAS A JOURNEY
OF BREAKING FREE FROM THE SYSTEM OF CONTROL.
BECAUSE LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANCEL CULTURE.
IF MY IDENTITY IS IN THE MELANIN IN MY SKIN,
ANYTIME THERE'S A CAUSE, I WILL ALIGN WITH THE MELANIN.
REBECCA: YEP.
DR. BRIDGES: REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT CAUSE
ALIGNS WITH GOD.
AND THAT'S WHAT --
REBECCA: AND THAT'S BONDAGE.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S BONDAGE AND DECEPTION,
AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.
PEOPLE, IT'S AMAZING.
YOU'LL HAVE A -- I SAW SOMEBODY GET UP THERE
AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, I JUST WON'T STAND
FOR THE MISTREATMENT OF WOMEN, AND THEIR SONG THAT THEY GOT
A GRAMMY FOR WAS A SONG
ABOUT BASICALLY THE OBJECTIFICATION OF WOMEN.
SO ON THE ONE HAND, YOU ARE BEING ENRICHED
BY THE ENSLAVEMENT OBJECTIFICATION OF WOMEN,
THE BONDAGE AND ABUSE OF WOMEN.
ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU'RE USING THAT SAME INFLUENCE
TO BE A VOICE IN THE CULTURE.
THIS IS TOTAL IDIOCY AND IT'S TOTAL FOOLISHNESS.
AND YET, GOD MUST INTERVENE IN THE CHURCH
SO THAT WE CAN REALIZE THAT WE CANNOT LEND OUR VOICE
TO EVERY CAUSE.
WE HAVE TO EXAMINE THE CAUSE.
THE BIBLE SAYS IN I JOHN 4, IT SAYS,
BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT, BUT TRY THE SPIRITS
WHETHER THEY BE OF GOD.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: WE CAN'T JUST IMMEDIATELY ALIGN OURSELVES
WITH ANY AGENDA.
REBECCA: MM-HM.
DR. BRIDGES: AND THE CHURCH IS BEING PIMPED.
I HATE TO SAY THAT ON YOUR PODCAST, LORD HAVE MERCY.
REBECCA: BUT IT'S TRUE.
DR. BRIDGES: THE CHURCH IS BEING PROSTITUTED FOR OUR GOODNESS
AND OUR HEARTS AND OUR LUCKY CHARMS
AND ALL OF THAT, AND LET'S EVERYBODY JUST SING "KUMBAYA"
AND ACT LIKE YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
THAT'S NOT THE CHURCH.
THE CHURCH IS THE PILLAR AND GROUND OF THE TRUTH.
THE CHURCH IS THE ONE THAT SAYS,
THAT GOING ON IN GOVERNMENT, IT'S EVIL.
THE CHURCH IS THE ONE THAT SAYS, NO,
MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
THE CHURCH IS THE ONE THAT SAYS, NO, NO,
I LOVE BLACK FOLKS, BUT I DON'T LOVE THIS AGENDA.
REBECCA: MM-HM.
DR. BRIDGES: AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED
TO UNMUZZLE THE CHURCH.
CHURCH HAS BEEN MUZZLED.
AND THE CHURCH HAS BEEN PUSHED INTO A CORNER
WHERE WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING, AND IF YOU SAY ANYTHING,
YOU'RE HATING SOMEBODY.
NO, I DON'T HATE YOU, I JUST DISAGREE WITH YOU.
BUT THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF THIS AGE
WHERE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT THE NARRATIVE BECOMES A GROUNDS
FOR YOU TO BE PUNISHED.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO PUNISH YOU
BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS.
REBECCA: OH, A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND THAT WAS THE DECEPTION BEHIND IT IS IT STARTED OFF
AS SEEMINGLY GOOD, BUT REALLY IT'S TRYING TO SILENCE
THE CHURCH ALTOGETHER.
DR. BRIDGES: OF COURSE. OF COURSE.
REBECCA: BECAUSE THE POWER IS IN OUR VOICE.
AND IT'S HIS MESSAGE.
WHAT'S INTERESTING IS SOMEONE SAID,
I DON'T EVEN, I THINK IT WAS JONATHAN CAHN,
HE WAS JUST HERE, HE SAID, IF YOU ALLOW CANCEL CULTURE
TO INTIMIDATE YOU, YOU'LL CANCEL YOURSELF.
DR. BRIDGES: WOW.
REBECCA: BECAUSE YOU WON'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING.
DR. BRIDGES: WOW.
REBECCA: HOW MINDBLOWING IS THAT?
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OFF-CAMERA
ON ANOTHER SHOW, ACTUALLY, WAS,
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DAY AND AGE THAT I FEEL LIKE
WE'RE IN IS SIMILAR TO THE DAYS OF ELIJAH WHEN HE FACED JEZEBEL.
AND IT WAS A TIME WHEN BAAL WORSHIP WAS OVERTAKING
THE NATION OF ISRAEL AND SHE WAS SO INTIMIDATING.
REALLY SCARY.
NO ONE.
AND ELIJAH HAD A DECISION HE HAD TO MAKE:
WAS HE GOING TO STAND UP AGAINST HER OR WAS HE GOING TO
COWER AWAY IN FEAR BUT IT WOULD AFFECT THE NATION?
AND I FEEL LIKE THE CHURCH IS IN A POSITION NOW
WHERE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO AVOID
TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS,
BUT I THINK WE'RE COMING TO A PLACE
WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING
OR NOT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.
BUT IF YOU DO STAND UP AND TRUST GOD AND SPEAK HIS TRUTH,
HE WILL BE FAITHFUL.
DR. BRIDGES: I BELIEVE SO.
I BELIEVE WE'RE IN THE AGE OF SHADRAHC, MESHACH, AND ABEDNEGO.
REBECCA: YES, ME TOO.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
I BELIEVE THAT --
REBECCA: BECAUSE OUR WORLD IS A LOT LIKE BABYLON NOW.
DR. BRIDGES: THIS IS VERY BABYLONIAN, THE SYSTEM.
REBECCA: VERY PAGAN.
DR. BRIDGES: VERY PAGAN.
REBECCA: WORSHIPING THE DEVIL.
DR. BRIDGES: YEP.
AND IF YOU DON'T WORSHIP THIS IMAGE,
IF YOU DON'T BOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE THROWN INTO THE FIRE.
THAT'S CANCEL CULTURE.
EITHER BOW OR DIE.
BUT HERE'S THE BEAUTY THAT I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
I DIED IN 1996 WHEN I GOT BORN AGAIN AND FILLED
WITH THE HOLY GHOST.
SO I'M ONE OF THOSE PREACHERS.
MY SECURITY STAFF OF THE CHURCHES SAID, PASTOR,
CAN YOU PLEASE STOP?
[ LAUGHING ]
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S REALLY MEAN.
THEY SAID, YOU'RE TELLING PEOPLE TO BRING IT ON.
COME ON OVER HERE.
AND THEY SAID THEY'RE COMING.
[ LAUGHING ]
DR. BRIDGES: IT'S SO FUNNY.
BUT I MEAN IT, THOUGH.
I'M LIKE, COME ON.
I'M NOT -- I'VE HAD DEATH THREATS,
PEOPLE CALLING -- THEY'LL SEND MESSAGES THAT SAYS,
YOU NEED TO DIE, SOMEBODY OUGHT TO MURDER YOU.
AND I'M TRYING TO GET DELIVERED ALL THE WAY
BECAUSE THERE'S A PART OF SOUTHWEST ATLANTA,
IT'S STILL DOWN IN THERE, AND I'LL SAY, COME ON,
BRING IT ON, THEN.
COME ON.
I'M AT THIS ADDRESS.
LORD DELIVER ME.
PRAY FOR ME.
BUT WE GOT TO STAND, MAN.
I'M TIRED OF BEING BULLIED.
I'VE BEEN BULLIED.
I USED TO BE BULLIED AS A KID,
AND THAT'S HOW I STARTED FIGHTING.
I SAID, THE THING ABOUT A BULLY IS,
IF YOU GIVE THEM YOUR DAY, HE'LL TAKE YOUR YEAR.
REBECCA: MM.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
IF YOU GIVE THE DEVIL YOUR DAY, HE'LL TAKE YOUR YEAR.
IF WE GIVE THE DEVIL THIS YEAR,
HE'LL TAKE OUR DECADE.
THAT'S HOW THE ENEMY IS.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: AND SO WE HAVE TO SAY,
HERE IS THE LINE IN THE SAND.
I'M NOT MOVING, I'M NOT BUDGING.
THROW ME IN THE FIRE IF YOU WANT,
BUT GOD WILL DELIVER ME, YEAH.
REBECCA: YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING
IS I HAD THIS EXPERIENCE WITH THE LORD
WHILE I WAS ONCE AGAIN PRAYING IN MY CAR,
THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES
WHERE I ENCOUNTER GOD'S PRESENCE.
AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS I WAS DRIVING,
I WAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I WAS ALMOST HOME,
AND I HAD A VISION, AND IT WAS OF THESE ASIAN PEOPLE,
I'M PRETTY SURE THEY WERE CHINESE,
AND THEY WERE WORSHIPING GOD.
AND THEIR FACES WERE RADIATING -- OH,
IT GETS ME A LITTLE EMOTIONAL --
THEY WERE RADIATING THE GLORY OF GOD.
BUT I KNEW THAT THEY WERE PROBABLY GOING TO LOSE
THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF WORSHIPING THE LORD.
AND GOD SPOKE TO ME AND HE SAID,
HAVE YOU COUNT THE COST?
AND THERE'S THIS SCRIPTURE IN THE GOSPELS
WHERE JESUS IS TELLING, HE SAYS, LOOK, YOU CAN FOLLOW ME,
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT FAMOUS SCRIPTURE, HE SAYS,
HATE YOUR BROTHER OR YOUR SISTER, MOTHER.
AND A LOT OF TIMES,
PEOPLE CAN MISINTERPRET IT.
JESUS IS SIMPLY SAYING, YOU HAVE TO PUT ME ABOVE ALL ELSE.
AND HE SAYS, YOU HAVE TO COUNT THE COST BEFORE FOLLOWING ME.
AND HE SAYS, WHAT BUILDER WOULD START A PROJECT
AND NOT COUNT THE COST OF MATERIALS?
AND WHAT I REALIZED IS BECAUSE I GREW UP IN AMERICA,
I HAD NEVER BEEN PERSECUTED FOR MY BELIEFS.
I HAD NEVER TRULY COUNTED THE COSTS UNTO DEATH
WHEREAS LIKE THESE BELIEVERS,
I WAS THINKING OF LIKE THE UNDERGROUND CHURCH IN CHINA,
THEY KNOW THAT IT COULD COST THEM THEIR LIVES.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
REBECCA: AND IN THAT MOMENT, I TOLD THE LORD,
I COUNTED THE COST, AND I SAID, GOD,
I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU, NO MATTER WHAT IT COSTS.
BUT I THINK WE'RE COMING TO AN AGE
WHERE WE REALLY HAVE TO COUNT THE COSTS AND ASK OURSELVES,
OR WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO PAY TO FOLLOW CHRIST?
ARE WE WILLING TO PAY ANY -- EVERYTHING?
AND I THINK WE'RE JUST BEGINNING TO FEEL THE PUSHBACK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION OUR NATION IS GOING,
HONESTLY, IN TERMS OF ARE WE GOING TO GO INTO MORE FREEDOM,
ARE WE GOING TO GO INTO MORE PERSECUTION?
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WHAT I'M BELIEVING FOR IS REVIVAL.
AND THAT IS WHAT IS SOMETHING I'M BELIEVING FOR
WORLDWIDE REVIVAL, I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE
AN END TIME REVIVAL AT THE LIKE GOD SPEAKS ABOUT IT,
GOD HAS, I BELIEVE, HAS SHOWN ME THESE THINGS.
AND JUST A YEAR AGO, MY FAST LAST YEAR,
THAT WAS WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WANTED ME TO PRAY FOR.
AND SO I'M BELIEVING IN CONTENDING FOR THOSE THINGS.
BUT I BELIEVE THAT AS GOING BACK TO COUNTING THE COSTS,
AS I'M BEGINNING TO SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF PERSECUTION
IN OUR NATION, I THINK IT REALLY MAKES US BEGIN
TO REALLY THINK, AND IT REALLY TESTS US,
ARE WE REALLY GOING TO STAND UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT?
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
REBECCA: BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY IN AMERICA
USED TO BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU COULD GET INFLUENCE,
YOU COULD GET MONEY, YOU COULD GET POPULARITY.
AND IF ALL OF THAT IS TAKEN AWAY.
AND NOW YOU COULD GET JAILED,
YOU COULD GET IN TROUBLE, YOU COULD GET FINED,
YOU COULD GET CANCELED.
WOULD YOU STILL DO IT?
I THINK THIS KIND OF TESTING IS REALLY SIFTING THE CHURCH.
BUT WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL IS I THINK IT COULD SET US UP FOR REVIVAL.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
I BELIEVE THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING INTO THE GREATEST SEASON
OF AWAKENING THAT THE CHURCH HAS EVER SEEN.
I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A BOOK OF ACTS MOMENT
WHEN HEROD STRETCHED FORTH HIS HANDS TO VEX THE CHURCH.
AND HE KILLED JAMES.
JAMES WAS A PILLAR.
EVERYBODY ADMIRED HIM.
HE WAS RESPECTED, HE WAS INFLUENTIAL.
AND HERE SOMEONE OF THE CHURCH ADMIRED AND REVERED
WAS TAKEN OUT, AND THE DEVIL USED THAT
TO TRY TO DISCOURAGE THE CHURCH.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: TO TRY TO INTIMIDATE THE CHURCH.
BUT THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED.
THE CHURCH BECAME MORE BOLD.
THEY PRAYED MORE.
[ LAUGHING ]
DR. BRIDGES: AND IN THAT CHAPTER, IT SAYS,
AFTER AWHILE, IT SAYS, AND SO MIGHTILY GREW THE WORD OF GOD
AND PREVAILED.
AND THE DISCIPLES ACTUALLY MULTIPLY.
SO PERSECUTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A NECESSARY COMPONENT
TO SHAKE THE CHURCH.
WE WEREN'T READY FOR COVID-19.
WE WEREN'T READY.
THE CHURCH WAS TOO COMFORTABLE.
AND THIS SHOOK US.
AND THERE'S MORE SHAKING TO COME.
REBECCA: I THINK SO, TOO.
DR. BRIDGES: BUT I BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY HEART
THAT FOR THOSE WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,
THOSE REMNANT WHO HAVE COUNTED THE COSTS,
I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO FLOURISH
IN SOME OF THE MOST SEEMINGLY DARK TIMES THAT WE'VE SEEN.
THIS IS THE HOUR FOR THE CHURCH, SISTER REBECCA.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE HOUR FOR THE CHURCH.
I BELIEVE THE CHURCH IS GOING TO SHINE NOW
MORE THAN WE'VE EVER SHINED BEFORE,
AND IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE MIDST OF THE PANDEMONIUM.
I'M TELLING PEOPLE, HEY, DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE COAST CLEARS,
IT'S TIME TO MAKE OUR STAND NOW.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: OUR IMPRINT NOW.
THEY NEED TO FILL US NOW.
IT'S TIME FOR US TO SPEAK.
IF THEY TAKE AWAY YOUR 501(C)(3) STATUS,
IF THEY TRY TO USE ALL OF THESE RELIGIOUS THINGS AGAINST YOU.
I SAW A RECENT ARTICLE, THEY'RE COMPILING A LIST
OF ANYONE THAT'S GIVEN A RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION.
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS DOING THIS RIGHT NOW,
THEY'RE COMPILING A LIST
OF ANYBODY THAT'S GIVEN A RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION
AND THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT TO TRY TO TAKE SOME ACTION
AGAINST THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
BUT REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMES,
ARE WE WILLING TO SAY, LORD, IF GOD BE FOR ME,
WHO CAN BE AGAINST ME?
AND IF YOU, AND THIS IS THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ON THAT,
IF YOU...
IF YOU'RE AFRAID THAT YOUR PAST CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU, REPENT.
PUT IT UNDER THE BLOOD.
GET RIGHT WITH GOD.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: PUT YOUR STUFF,
GET YOUR LIFE UNDER THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST.
THAT WAY, YOU CAN HAVE A BOLDNESS.
JESUS WAS NOT AFRAID BECAUSE HE WAS IN RIGHT STANDING WITH GOD.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: THE BIBLE SAYS,
THE RIGHTEOUS ARE AS BOLD AS A LION.
SO IF WE'RE NOT RIGHTEOUS, SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE
THERE'S AREAS IN OUR LIVES OF COMPROMISE
THAT WE NEED TO RECTIFY.
BUT ONCE YOU RECTIFY THOSE THINGS,
WHO CAN STAND AGAINST YOU? YEAH.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE HAD JONATHAN CAHN ON,
HE SAID, AS THE DARK, HE SAID,
THINGS WERE VERY GRAY, ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA,
IT WAS A VERY CHRISTIAN CULTURE,
BUT IT WAS MUDDLED.
AND HE SAYS, AS THE DARK GET DARKER,
THE LIGHT ALSO BECOMES LIGHTER.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND I JUST, ONE OF MY FAVORITE VERSES
IS IN PHILIPPIANS 2.
IT TALKS ABOUT LIVING YOUR LIFE A CERTAIN WAY,
AND IT SAYS, YOU WILL SHINE LIKE STARS
AMONG A PERVERSE AND CROOKED GENERATION.
DR. BRIDGES: THERE IT IS.
REBECCA: AND I REMEMBER JOHN PAUL JACKSON,
WHO WAS LIKE A MENTOR, HE ALWAYS SAID,
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING TIMES TO BE A BELIEVER.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FALL UNDERNEATH
THE FEAR OR THE PRESSURE WHERE WE SEE THE WORLD GOING,
BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO LOOK UP TO JESUS
AND KNOW THAT OUR REDEMPTION DRAWS NIGH, IT'S NEAR.
BUT NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE A STAND
BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ETERNITY TO LOOK FORWARD TO,
AND WHAT WE DO -- THIS LIFE IS SO SMALL.
THE DEVIL --
DR. BRIDGES: COMPARED TO, YEAH.
REBECCA: YEAH, THE DEVIL WANTS TO MAKE US FEEL
REALLY DOWN AND WANTS TO SCARE US OR INTIMIDATE US
OR MAKES IT FEEL LIKE IT'S FOREVER,
BUT IT'S SO MINOR.
AND IT COMPARED, PAUL SAYS,
TO THE GLORY THAT'S IN STORE.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
REBECCA: SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE,
NOW IS THE TIME TO STAND.
AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT CROWNS.
I THINK THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT CROWNS
FOR DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE THE CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS,
LONGING FOR CHRIST'S RETURN,
NOT GETTING CAUGHT UP IN THIS WORLD BEING YOUR HOME
BUT LONGING FOR HIS APPEARING AND WANTING THAT
ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE.
DR. BRIDGES: WOW, THAT'S GOOD.
REBECCA: THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS FOR US
TO CONTEND FOR AND TO BELIEVE FOR.
AND THAT MY THING IS THAT WHEN I STAND BEFORE CHRIST,
I WANT TO KNOW THAT I DID THE RIGHT THING
AND THAT I DID WHAT I ASKED HIM TO DO.
AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S LIKE AS THINGS GET HARDER,
I DON'T -- IT IS EXCITING AT THE SAME TIME.
DR. BRIDGES: OH, MAN, I'M EXCITED.
REBECCA: I AM, TOO.
DR. BRIDGES: I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M LIVING MY BEST LIFE IN CHRIST.
AND I DON'T MEAN IT IN A SELFISH WAY, BUT --
REBECCA: OR A PRIDEFUL WAY.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH, A PRIDEFUL WAY.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: BUT THIS IS OUR BEST SEASON.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: AS A CHURCH, AS INDIVIDUALS,
THIS IS OUR TIME.
AND I TOLD THE CHURCH, I SAID,
THIS IS A SEASON OF DIVINE CONQUEST
YOU HAVE TO TAKE DOMINION OVER THIS YEAR.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: YOU CAN'T, AGAIN,
THAT CANCEL CULTURE HAS MADE US,
IT HAS SO INCAPACITATED PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE AFRAID
TO EVEN GRAB HOLD OF ANYTHING ANYMORE.
THEY JUST WANT TO OBSERVE WHAT'S -- THEY WANT TO BE
ON THE SIDELINES.
BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT.
WE HAVE TO TAKE DOMINION OVER THIS YEAR,
WE HAVE TO POSSESS THE LAND.
AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE GIANTS.
BUT GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN US,
THAN HE THAT IS IN THE WORLD.
REBECCA: SO YOU WERE SAYING IT'S TIME TO CONQUER THIS YEAR.
DR. BRIDGES: RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND YOU ACTUALLY SHARED ON ANOTHER SHOW
ABOUT HOW GOD HAD GIVEN YOU A WORD ABOUT,
IT WAS IN JEREMIAH, AND IT WAS ABOUT THE THRESHING FLOOR.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
JEREMIAH 55 OR JEREMIAH 58, ONE OF THOSE, YEAH.
REBECCA: CAN YOU SHARE THAT WORD?
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH, I CAN.
SO THE LORD HAD GIVEN ME THIS WORD ABOUT THE THRESHING FLOOR.
HE KEPT TELLING ME THE THRESHING FLOOR, THE THRESHING FLOOR.
I SAID, BUT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
SO HE TOOK ME TO THE SCRIPTURE IN JEREMIAH,
AND HE SAYS, TELL THE DAUGHTER OF BABYLON THAT I WILL --
THAT TO TAKE HER TO THE THRESHING FLOOR,
WHERE FIRE WITH THRESH HER.
BUT THEN IT SAYS, IT HAS ALL THESE PROMISES
THAT SHE WILL FLOURISH, SHE WILL PROSPER.
SO I STARTED TO STUDY ABOUT THE WHOLE THRESHING THING.
AND A THRESHING FLOOR IN THE ANCIENT WORLD WAS A PLACE
WHERE THEY SEPARATED THE WHEAT FROM THE WHEAT HUSK,
AND THEY DID IT WITH SOMETHING CALLED A FLAIL,
SO THEY WOULD BEAT IT.
LITERALLY, IT'S LIKE A NUNCHUCK, RIGHT.
IT'S JUST, POW, YOU'RE JUST BEATING IT, BEATING IT.
AND IT SEPARATES.
AND GOD SAID, THIS WILL BE A SEASON OF GREAT SEPARATION,
THAT THE PRESSURE AND THE BEATING
OF THE SEASON WOULD SEPARATE THE WHEAT FROM THE HUSK, RIGHT.
BUT THE LORD SAID TO ME, HE SAID, AFTER THAT,
HE SAID THAT THAT SAME THRESHING INSTRUMENT
THAT WAS USED TO THRESH HER AND TO SEPARATE HER,
THE WHEAT FROM THE HUSK, HE SAID
THAT THAT INSTRUMENT WILL BECOME AN INSTRUMENT OF BATTLE,
OF WARFARE, WHERE WE WILL ACTUALLY CONQUER
AND WE WILL DOMINATE THE ENEMY WITH THAT SAME THING,
THAT SAME INSTRUMENT THAT WAS USED
TO THRESH US, WE WILL NOW USE AGAINST THE ENEMY.
AND SO IT'S EXCITING.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BEEN A SEPARATION,
A NECESSARY SEPARATION.
I BELIEVE GOD SEPARATED WHEAT FROM TARES, SHEEP FROM GOAT.
THE FIVE VIRGINS, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING.
AND IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
FOR WHAT'S TO COME.
THERE MUST BE A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE FEARFUL
AND THE FAITHFUL, RIGHT.
BETWEEN THE BELIEVERS AND THE UNBELIEVERS,
EVEN IN THE CHURCH.
REBECCA: YEAH, BECAUSE THESE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
THEY'VE FELT LIKE A BEATING.
DR. BRIDGES: I'M TELLING YOU.
REBECCA: BUT IT'S HONESTLY,
IT IS THE -- IT SOUNDS A LITTLE IRONIC,
BUT IT IS THE MERCY AND GRACE OF GOD.
DR. BRIDGES: IT IS.
REBECCA: BECAUSE THAT IS HOW HE PREPARES US.
DR. BRIDGES: EXACTLY.
REBECCA: AND IT'S JUST LIKE GOING THROUGH THE FIRE,
YOU'RE PURIFIED.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
REBECCA: AND I REMEMBER,
I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH A SEASON LIKE THAT,
AND IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT,
BUT I'M THANKFUL BECAUSE IN THAT SEASON OF TESTING,
NOT ONLY DOES GOD TEACH US AND PURIFY US AND PRUNE US.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
REBECCA: BUT HE ALSO SHOWS US WHO HE IS
AND WHO IS MOST IMPORTANT THAT HE IS OUR FOUNDATION.
AND I WAS TELLING MY HUSBAND THE OTHER DAY,
I WAS LIKE, I FELT LIKE IF I HAD ANY FALSE SECURITY
IN SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS,
GOD HAS CUT THAT OFF, AND HE SHOWED ME IT'S ONLY ME.
BECAUSE WHEN THE TIME HAS COME TO STEP INTO THESE NEW THINGS,
YOU WANT TO BE READY.
I THINK ABOUT MY DEVO THAT SAID,
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE THINGS
THAT YOU'RE PRAYING AND ASKING GOD FOR,
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT, ARE YOU READY TO HAVE THOSE THINGS?
AND IT SAYS, DON'T JUST PRAY AND ASK GOD FOR THE THINGS
THAT YOU WANT, PRAY THAT YOU'RE READY FOR THOSE THINGS.
AND SO WHILE I'M SEEKING DIFFERENT THINGS,
I ALSO ASK, LORD, PREPARE ME FOR THAT.
PREPARE ME FOR THESE THINGS, PURIFY ME.
YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH -- INTO SOMETHING
WITH NOT THE RIGHT CHARACTER,
WITHOUT THE RIGHT PURIFICATION FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT
IS FOR PEOPLE NOT TO BE DISCOURAGED BY THE BEATING
BUT TO BE ENCOURAGED AND KNOW THAT
GOD ONLY CHASTENS THOSE WHO HE CALLS HIS CHILDREN.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: IF YOU ARE NOT BEING CHASTENED BY THE LORD,
THEN YOU ARE NOT A CHILD OF GOD.
DR. BRIDGES: I KNOW, YEAH.
REBECCA: AND I THINK ABOUT MY SON.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND I THOUGHT ABOUT, I USED TO NOT LIKE THAT VERSE,
TO BE HONEST, BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT
FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF LOVE
UNTIL I HAD MY OWN CHILD AND I THOUGHT,
IF MY KID WAS GOING TO GO DO SOMETHING DANGEROUS,
I WOULD DISCIPLINE HIM.
AND IT'S NOT -- I DON'T DISCIPLINE MY KID OUT OF ANGER,
I DISCIPLINE MY KID IN LOVE,
SO IT'S NOT HARSH.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
REBECCA: BUT IT'S A PROTECTIVE THING.
GOD DOES THIS TO PROTECT US FROM EVIL, FROM HARM,
FROM US EVEN HARMING OURSELVES.
DR. BRIDGES: RIGHT, WOW.
REBECCA: THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED YOU TO SHARE
WAS YOU HAD A -- I THINK IT WAS A DREAM ABOUT THE FREEZING.
CAN YOU SHARE THAT?
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH.
SO THE LORD HAD GIVEN ME THIS PROPHETIC DREAM.
I WAS IN TEXAS, AND THERE WAS A HUGE SNOW STORM/BLIZZARD.
LIKE IT WAS VERY APOCALYPTIC.
EVERYTHING WAS FREEZING OVER,
EVEN PEOPLE WERE FROZEN.
AND IT'S LIKE THE STORM WAS ENCROACHING,
JUST LIKE COMING, COMING, COMING.
AND MYSELF AND A GROUP OF OTHER LEADERS,
WE WERE RUNNING FOR SHELTER.
SO WE RAN INTO THIS OLD HOME, LOOKED LIKE IT WAS,
EXCUSE ME, FROM THE EARLY 1900S.
WE RAN INSIDE, AND WHEN WE RAN INSIDE,
THINGS WERE STILL, THE FROST AND THE FREEZE WAS JUST COMING.
THE BLIZZARD WAS JUST COMING.
AND PEOPLE WERE BEING FROZEN,
AND WE KNEW IT WAS COMING TOWARD THE HOUSE.
SO I WAS LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO?
WE'RE LIKE, LORD, WHAT DO WE DO?
AND THERE WAS THIS CAST IRON FURNACE,
AND I LOOKED AT IT AND I HEARD THIS VOICE SAY,
IGNITE THE FURNACE. IGNITE THE FIRE.
AND I SAID, OKAY.
AND WHEN I DID THAT, IT STARTED TO MELT THE ICE.
EVERYTHING WAS MELTED, AND THE WATER BEGAN TO FLOW.
AND OF COURSE, WE'RE DELIVERED, WE WERE PROTECTED.
AND WHEN I WOKE UP, THE LORD SAID TO ME, HE SAID,
A STORM OF COMPROMISE HAS HIT, AND IT'S COMING.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
DR. BRIDGES: HE SAID, BUT THE FLAMES
OR THE FURNACE OF REVIVAL WILL COUNTERACT
THE STORM OF COMPROMISE.
HE SAYS, WE MUST IGNITE THE FLAME.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT GOD IS REALLY SAYING TODAY:
WE HAVE TO IGNITE THE FLAME.
SEE, THIS THING OF COMPROMISE AND CANCEL CULTURE
AND THE CHURCH BEING SILENT IS REALLY AN ISSUE
OF PERSONAL REVIVAL THAT COLLECTS A REVIVAL.
YOU CAN'T STAND IF YOU'RE ASLEEP.
REBECCA: MM-HM.
DR. BRIDGES: YOU ONLY STAND UP IF YOU'RE AWAKE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED AN AWAKENING.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: IT'S NOT JUST THE CULTURE,
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN LGBTQ OR WITH ABORTION OR WITH POLITICS.
IT'S THE CHURCH.
IT'S US STANDING UP AND BEING THE LIGHT.
BUT YOU CAN'T BE THE LIGHT UNTIL YOU CATCH ON FIRE.
THERE WERE NO LED'S WHEN JESUS SAID,
YOU'RE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY FLORESCENT LIGHTBULBS.
THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE LIGHT TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO
WAS WITH FIRE.
AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE THE LIGHT,
WE HAVE TO BE ON FIRE. WE HAVE TO BE ON FIRE.
[ CHUCKLES ]
THE FIRE IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL STOP
THE FREEZE OF COMPROMISES HIT THE CULTURE.
AND MANY HAVE BEEN FROZEN IN COMPROMISE.
BUT THERE IS A REMNANT WHO IS SAYING, GOD,
WE'RE GOING TO STOKE THE FLAMES OF REVIVAL.
WE'RE GOING TO IGNITE THE FLAMES OF AWAKENING.
WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN AZUSA IN THE EARLY 1800S,
I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
IT HAS TO.
IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT PHOTO OP'S AND SAYING,
WHO WAS THE BEST WORSHIP LEADER DURING THE REVIVAL,
OR, MAN, WHO HAD THE BEST BUILDING?
NO.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE REVIVAL IS A BREAKOUT
AND HUBS ALL OVER THE PLANET,
ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES BUT ALL OVER THE GLOBE,
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MEET OUT IN FRONT OF BARS,
THEY'RE GOING TO MEET OUT IN FRONT OF GAS STATIONS
AND FOOTBALL FIELDS, SOCCER FIELDS,
THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT IN FRONT OF THE BEACHES,
AND THEY'RE GOING TO SING A SONG OF REDEMPTION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT THING IS GOING TO SHAKE PEOPLE
OUT OF THEIR COMPROMISE,
OUT OF THEIR LAZINESS, THEIR APATHY,
AND THEIR LUKEWARM CHRISTIANITY.
REBECCA: YEAH.
DR. BRIDGES: AND CAUSE THEM TO REALLY BE ON FIRE FOR GOD.
THAT'S WHAT THE LORD HAS SHOWN ME ABOUT THIS YEAR.
IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT YEAR.
THERE WILL BE CHALLENGES,
BUT THE CHURCH WILL COME OUT VICTORIOUS.
REBECCA: AMEN.
DR. BRIDGES: IF WE SURRENDER TO GOD'S PURPOSE.
REBECCA: HOW DO WE IGNITE THE FIRE?
DR. BRIDGES: I THINK ONE OF THE SIMPLE WAYS TO DO THAT IS,
FIRST OF ALL, BY MAKING A DECISION.
REBECCA: MM-HM.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE...
LUKEWARM CHRISTIANS.
WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO BE CHURCHGOERS.
LORD, I WANT TO WALK IN MY CALLING,
I WANT TO BE A LIGHT IN THE MIDST OF THE DARKNESS.
AND THE OTHER THING, SISTER REBECCA, IS PRAYER.
REBECCA: MM-HM.
DR. BRIDGES: WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO REAL, FERVENT PRAYER.
REBECCA: AND PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.
DR. BRIDGES: PRAYING IN THE HOLY GHOST.
PRAYING WITHOUT CEASING.
PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.
EVEN SPIRIT-FILLED CHRISTIANS.
AND I HEARD ONE PASTOR SAY, HE SAID,
YOU CAN'T BE A MONOSYLLABIC, THIS IS WHAT HE SAYS,
A MONOSYLLABIC PERSON WHO PRAYS
WHO'S JUST LIKE, BAH BAH BAH.
HE'S LIKE, NO.
YOU NEED TO GO DEEPER THAN THAT.
[ LAUGHING ]
DR. BRIDGES: SO I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT TO GO DEEPER,
REALLY CONTEND FOR THE PRESENCE AND POWER OF THE SPIRIT,
PRAYING.
GOD DEALT WITH ME.
HE SAID, SON, DON'T ACT LIKE YOU'VE HAD THIS SUCCESS
IN DIFFERENT THINGS.
HE SAYS, DON'T FORGET HOW YOU GOT THERE.
IT WAS THOSE PRAYER MEETINGS IN YOUR LIVING ROOM
ON THURSDAY NIGHTS.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
DR. BRIDGES: WE WOULD PRAY ALL NIGHT LONG IN MY LIVING ROOM.
WE'D HAVE ALL NIGHT PRAYER.
WE WOULD PRAY FROM FRIDAY-SATURDAY MORNING
ALL NIGHT IN OUR HOUSE, AND THEY WOULD HAVE A BREAKFAST
THAT I WOULD COOK FOR EVERYBODY IN THE MORNING,
JUST A LITTLE CHURCH.
AND GOD SAID, THAT'S THE SECRET POWER TO EVERYTHING
YOU SEE IN YOUR LIFE TODAY.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SECRET POWER FOR THE CHURCH
THIS YEAR.
WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO FERVENT, FIERY,
EFFECTUAL PRAYER IN THE HOLY GHOST THAT IS CONTINUAL.
NOT JUST WE PRAY A LITTLE BIT DURING THE WORSHIP SERVICE.
NO, WE NEED TO HAVE PRAYER GATHERINGS WHERE WE IGNITE
THE FLAMES AGAIN.
REBECCA: AND THAT'S HOW AZUSA HAPPENED.
DR. BRIDGES: THAT'S HOW AZUSA HAPPENED.
REBECCA: WOW.
WELL, WE COULD KEEP TALKING.
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: BUT THIS HAS BEEN AMAZING.
DR. BRIDGES: THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU.
REBECCA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, SERIOUSLY, FOR EVERYTHING.
DR. BRIDGES: THANK YOU.
REBECCA: FOR YOUR TIME, SHARING YOUR WISDOM.
I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER WATCHING
OR LISTENING ARE GOING TO BE SO THANKFUL FOR THIS.
DR. BRIDGES: THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
REBECCA: DR. BRIDGES, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING,
I THINK THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO ARE FEELING
EVEN THE UNCTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
THAT MIGHT BE FEELING THAT MOVING OF A HOLY SPIRIT
AND THEY MIGHT BE FEELING CONVICTION THAT MAYBE
THEY WERE ON THE FENCE AND THEY'RE SAYING --
THEY EVEN FEEL THAT HUNGER TO SEE THAT REVIVAL,
TO SEE GOD MOVE, AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT,
I WANT TO STAND UP, I WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
I'M SICK OF BEING STAGNANT,
I WANT TO IGNITE THE FIRE.
CAN YOU PRAY FOR THOSE PEOPLE?
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH. THOSE OF YOU WATCHING ME RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE SAYING,
PASTOR, I'M JUST SITTING ON MY BLESSED ASSURANCE
WAITING FOR THE SWEET BY AND BY.
BUT MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN HIGH AND DRY.
AND WHEREVER YOU ARE, I WANT YOU TO PRAY THIS PRAYER
OR PRAY ALONG WITH ME.
FATHER, IN JESUS' NAME, I PRAY FOR EVERYONE WATCHING.
AND I DECLARE OVER THEIR LIFE THAT THEY ARE FILLED
WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
I ALSO WANT YOU TO LIFT YOUR HANDS WHERE YOU ARE
AND SAY, LORD, FILL ME WITH THE HOLY GHOST,
FILL ME AFRESH, IGNITE THE FLAMES OF AWAKENING IN MY HEART.
CAUSE ME TO BE ONE OF THE WISE VIRGINS.
NOT THE FOOLISH THAT HAVE OIL IN THEIR LAMPS.
GOD, I THANK YOU TODAY FOR MANIFESTING THE POWER
OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE LIVES OF THOSE WATCHING,
THAT THEY WILL BE AWAKENED OUT OF COMPROMISE,
OUT OF SLUMBER, AND THEY WOULD ARISE
AND WALK IN THE LIGHT OF CHRIST.
I THANK YOU FOR A SPIRIT OF BOLDNESS AND A SPIRIT OF TRUTH.
AND GOD, WE COMMIT THIS TO YOUR ABLE HANDS.
ON BEHALF OF YOUR PEOPLE, FILL THEM WITH THE HOLY GHOST.
IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
REBECCA: AMEN.
DR. BRIDGES: AMEN.
REBECCA: AND AMEN.
DR. BRIDGES: GOD BLESS YOU.
THANKS SO MUCH.
I'M SO EXCITED.
I LOVE THIS, THIS IS AWESOME.
REBECCA: THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING -- THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
AND SITTING DOWN.
DR. BRIDGES: YEAH, NO, IT'S GOOD.
REBECCA: AND JUST POURING INTO ALL THESE PEOPLE
WHO ARE EITHER WATCHING OR LISTENING,
WE REALLY -- EVERYONE HERE APPRECIATES YOUR MINISTRY.
DR. BRIDGES: THANK YOU.
REBECCA: AND FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING.
DR. BRIDGES: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GOD BLESS YOU.
REBECCA: AND, GUYS, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT,
HIS NEW BOOK IS COMING OUT: OVERCOMING FAMILIAR SPIRITS.
SO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT.
WHERE, WHEN THAT DROPS, WHERE CAN PEOPLE GET IT?
DR. BRIDGES: ANYWHERE BOOKS ARE SOLD.
REBECCA: OKAY.
OKAY, AWESOME.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU, DR. BRIDGES,
FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.
DR. BRIDGES: YOU'RE WELCOME.
REBECCA: AND YOU'LL COME BACK?
DR. BRIDGES: I'LL COME BACK.
REBECCA: HEY, ALL RIGHT. SO IT'LL BE UPDATED EVERY TIME WE DROP NEW CONTENT.
AND DON'T FORGET YOU CAN FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM
@REBECCALAMBWEISS.
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