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REBECCA: HEY, GUYS,
WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER EPISODE
OFON AIR WITH REBECCA.
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION
WITH RABBI JONATHAN CAHN,
AND WHAT HE SEES HAPPENING PROPHETICALLY
IN OUR WORLD TODAY.
LET'S GET BACK INTO IT.
REBECCA: WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN SO
INTERESTING IS THE OLD TESTAMENT USED TO NOT MAKE
SENSE TO ME, IF I'M BEING HONEST.
I THINK GROWING UP GENTILE,
IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE JEWISH ROOTS,
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WHOLE STORY CAN BE CONFUSING.
AND JONATHAN CAME INTO MY LIFE,
AND WITH MARRYING HIM ACTUALLY CAME A REALLY BIG
REVELATION BECAUSE THE JEWISHNESS OF JESUS BECAME
PERSONAL BECAUSE JONATHAN WANTED OUR HOME,
THAT TO BE A PART OF OUR CULTURE.
BUT WHAT WAS SO CRAZY IS THAT EVERY BELIEVER,
IT SHOULD BE A PART OF ALL OF OUR CULTURE BECAUSE
IT'S GOD'S CULTURE AND WE'RE GOD'S PEOPLE.
AND NOW THE OLD TESTAMENT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE.
AND I THINK IN THE GENTILE CHURCH,
WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF
THEM DON'T UNDERSTAND THE JEWISH ROOTS.
AND SO WHAT I LEARNED IS THAT ISRAEL WAS CALLED TO
BE A NATION SET APART FOR GOD.
THEY WEREN'T ENGAGING IN PAGAN WORSHIP,
AND THIS IS WHY GOD DELIVERS THEM OUT OF EGYPT
AND BRINGS THEM THE WILDERNESS EXPERIENCE.
BUT WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE GOLD CALF AND ALL THAT
KIND OF STUFF, I USED TO THINK GROWING UP THAT
THESE WERE JUST THESE MADE UP PRETEND GODS.
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THEM BEING REAL ENTITIES AND
REAL SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
BUT IT IS REAL.
AND IT'S STILL GOING ON.
AND THERE'S NOTHING, LIKE SOLOMON SAID,
THERE'S NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.
AND SO IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S GOING ON
IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM, WE'RE SUSCEPTIBLE TO
DECEPTION AND ATTACKED BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE
THE DISCERNMENT TO UNDERSTAND IT.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, WHICH IS AFFECTING AMERICA RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S WHY SOMEBODY SAID, BUT THAT'S CRAZY,
HOW COULD THEY SAY THAT?
THERE'S NO MORE -- IT TAKES AWAY REASON.
THERE ARE GODS.
AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT IT IS,
WHEN DO THEY DO -- WHEN DOES THAT ALL HAPPEN?
WHEN YOU TURN AWAY FROM THE TRUE GOD.
THAT'S WHERE ALL THIS COMES IN.
THAT'S WHEN THE GODS COME IN, LIKE IN POWER,
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WATCHING NOW IN THIS CULTURE.
SO IT IS.
AND AS YOU JUST SAID, YEAH,
EVERY TRUE BELIEVER IS JEWISH IN SPIRIT,
JEWISH BY ADOPTION, IT'S A JEWISH FAITH FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT ABSOLUTELY WEIRD, VERY DRAMATIC TIMES.
ONE OF THE HARBINGERS INTHE HARBINGER II,
WHICH HAPPENED AFTERTHE HARBINGER,
THIS IS AFTER THE NOVEL, IT'S CONTINUED,
THEY'VE CONTINUED, SO THAT'S WHY I WROTE
THE HARBINGER II BECAUSE IT HASN'T STOPPED
WHERE WE'RE GOING.
BUT ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH THE GODS.
AND NOBODY WOULD ADMIT, AS YOU SAID,
THAT THEY'RE WORSHIPING GODS IN AMERICA,
BUT WE'RE WORSHIPING MAMMON,
WE'RE WORSHIPING ALL THESE THINGS.
BUT THAT ACTUALLY -- A SIGN IN THE LAST DAYS OF
ISRAEL IS ONE OF THE SIGNS WERE THE IMAGES OF GODS
OVER THERE, AND GOD SAID, OKAY, JUDGMENT FOR THAT.
BUT I SHARED THAT IN THE SAME SUMMER THAT AMERICA
STRUCK DOWN MARRIAGE, OR GOD'S DEFINITION OF
MARRIAGE, THEY PUT UP AN IMAGE OF A FALSE GOD IN
NEW YORK CITY, THE LARGEST IMAGE EVER OF ANY FALSE GOD,
WHERE THEY CONVERTED THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING INTO AN IDOL.
AND THE GOD WAS THE GOD KALI OF DARKNESS, DEATH,
AND DESTRUCTION OVER NEW YORK CITY.
AND THAT SAME DAY, THE APPOINTED SCRIPTURE AND
ALL THE SYNAGOGUES, IT WAS AN APPOINTED SCRIPTURE
FROM AGES PAST HAS TO BE READ ON THAT,
FOR THAT DAY, IT WAS GOD WARNING,
DO NOT MAKE AN IMAGE, DO NOT.
AND THAT'S LIKE A SIGN, THAT'S A FLESH AND BLOOD
WHAT YOU SEE, BUT IT'S HAPPENING, AS YOU SAID,
EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE DON'T ADMIT IT,
THEY'RE DEALING WITH GODS, WITH THE PRINCIPALITIES.
REBECCA: THAT'S WHAT BLOWS MY MIND.
AND I'LL LET YOU ASK YOUR QUESTION,
I WANT TO MAKE THIS COMMENT,
IS THAT WE DON'T -- PEOPLE DON'T EVEN REALIZE WHAT
THEY'RE DOING, BUT IT IS HAPPENING.
WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY?
JONATHAN: WELL, I KNOW THAT REBECCA HAS A LOT
THAT SHE WANTS TO GET OUT OF YOU WHILE WE HAVE
RABBI JONATHAN CAHN WITH US.
REBECCA: I WANT YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS, TOO, THOUGH.
[ LAUGHING ]
JONATHAN: I WAS JUST THINKING,
THERE'S AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE NEED TO HARP ON
HERE, WHICH IS THE CENTRALITY OF ISRAEL AND
GOD'S PROPHETIC PLAN, GOD'S TIMING.
AND I KNOW THAT WE CAN'T UNPACK ALL OF IT IN A
THIRTY-MINUTE PODCAST EPISODE,
BUT WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PRACTICAL ADVICE FOR
SPIRITUAL LEADERS OR PASTORS AROUND THE WORLD
THAT WANT TO BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE CENTRALITY OF ISRAEL?
IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU,
MYSELF, THAT GROW UP JEWISH AND THEN COME TO AN
UNDERSTANDING OF YESHUA AS MESSIAH,
TO BE ABLE TO GRASP THE UNDERSTANDING OF ISRAEL
AND THE CENTRALITY.
WHAT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT GROWN UP
WITH THAT KIND OF BACKGROUND?
WHERE CAN THEY START?
RABBI CAHN: AND WHO ARE BELIEVERS?
JONATHAN: RIGHT. RABBI CAHN: WELL, THE FIRST THING,
YOUR FAITH IS A JEWISH FAITH.
THE PSALMS ARE THE PSALMS OF ISRAEL,
THE PROPHETS THE PROPHETS OF ISRAEL.
MESSIAH IS THE HOPE OF ISRAEL.
IT'S FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IF YOU WERE BORN AGAIN,
YOU WHO WERE ONCE SEPARATED FROM THE
COMMONWEALTH OF ISRAEL, YOU ARE NOW A FELLOW CITIZEN.
SO IT SAID YOU'RE ACTUALLY A CITIZEN OF ISRAEL,
THAT MAKES YOU AN ISRAELITE SPIRITUALLY.
SO YOU'RE BORN AGAIN SPIRITUALLY JEWISH,
THAT'S THE FIRST THING.
AND SO THEREFORE, ISRAEL IS ALSO YOUR NATION.
YOU DON'T REPLACE THE JEWISH PEOPLE, YOU JOIN THEM.
WHAT DID PAUL SAY?
YOU'RE GRAFTED INTO THE OLIVE TREE.
SO YOU'RE PART OF THE OLIVE TREE NOW.
THAT'S ISRAEL.
SO --
REBECCA: THAT'S IN ROMANS, BY THE WAY.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, YEAH.
REBECCA: SO PEOPLE KNOW.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, YEAH.
IF YOU LOOK AT ROMANS 9, 10, AND 11,
IT'S ALL ABOUT THIS.
AND SO GOD DIDN'T REJECT HIS PEOPLE.
PAUL SAID, DID GOD REJECT HIS PEOPLE?
BY NO MEANS.
THEY ARE STILL HIS PEOPLE.
BUT THEY NEED TO COME BACK.
SO IT'S LIKE THE STORY OF RUTH AND NAOMI.
IF YOU'RE BORN AGAIN AND YOU'RE NOT JEWISH BY
FLESH AND BLOOD, YOU'RE RUTH.
AND THERE YOU'RE NAOMI.
SO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WHEREVER YOU GO, I GO.
YOUR PEOPLE, YOUR GOD SHALL BE MY GOD.
AND NOTHING BUT DEATH SHALL SEPARATE ME.
IT'S LIKE WE HAVE ONE FATHER, AND THAT'S GOD.
GOD IS OUR FATHER.
BUT ACTUALLY, ISRAEL IS THE MOTHER OF THE CHURCH.
IT WAS BORN IN ISRAEL, THROUGH ISRAEL BY GOD'S
SEED UPON ISRAEL.
ALL THESE BLESSINGS, THE BIBLE,
IT'S GOD COMING TO ISRAEL, BEARS FRUIT TO THE WORLD.
SO YOU HAVE A JEWISH MOTHER AND YOU HAVE ONE
FATHER, BUT YOU HAVE A JEWISH MOTHER.
YOU'RE BORN OF ISRAEL.
IT EVEN TALKS ABOUT JERUSALEM BEING OUR MOTHER
AT THE SAME TIME.
SO YOU ARE ALREADY -- IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'RE -- IT'S
MANY BELIEVERS ARE JEWISH IN DISGUISE.
THEY DON'T REALIZE IT, BUT THEY ARE.
SO TO PRAY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
SEE JESUS THROUGH JEWISH EYES BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN
YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THESE THINGS ABOUT JESUS
BECAUSE HE IS JEWISH.
AND AGAIN, IT'S FOR EVERYBODY,
BUT THE JEWISH PEOPLE CAME INTO EXISTENCE TO BLESS THE GENTILE.
AND THE GENTILE HAS GOTTEN SAVED TO GET THE JEWS
BACK, THAT ISRAEL MIGHT BE JEALOUS.
SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LOVE STORY.
IT'S A FULL CIRCLE.
AND IF YOU KNOW JEWISH PEOPLE, PRAY FOR THEM,
SHARE THE GOSPEL WITH THEM AS JEWISH.
DON'T SAY, HEY, I WANT TO CONVERT YOU TO MY RELIGION.
IT'S I'VE COME TO YOUR MESSIAH,
I'VE FOUND YOUR MESSIAH.
AND SEE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT HOW JEWISH IT IS
AND SEE -- AND ALSO KNOW THE PROPHECIES FROM THE
HEBREW SCRIPTURES SO YOU COULD SHARE HOW MUCH JESUS
IS THE MESSIAH OF ISRAEL AND YESHUA TO THESE PEOPLE.
REBECCA: THAT'S WHY I LOVE THE EXAMPLE
OF RUTH AND NAOMI,
BECAUSE RUTH LOVED NAOMI
AND THAT'S WHY SHE FOLLOWED HER.
AND SHE SAID, YOUR PEOPLE ARE MY PEOPLE.
YOUR GOD IS MY GOD.
WHERE YOU GO, I GO.
AND I REALIZED THAT,
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST PLACE
FOR YOU TO COME AT IT.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME FROM A PLACE OF LIKE
WORK OF YOUR FLESH,
IT COMES FROM A PLACE OF LOVE IN YOUR HEART
WITH INTIMACY WITH GOD.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
REBECCA: BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOVE GOD,
YOU LOVE WHAT HE LOVES.
RABBI CAHN: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND ISRAEL IS THE APPLE OF GOD'S EYE.
I REMEMBER ONE TIME SOMEONE TAUGHT ME THAT
THE WORDLOVE IN THE BIBLE
IS LIKE 200 TIMES,
AND THEN ISRAEL IS IN THE BIBLE LIKE 2,000 TIMES.
IT'S THE MOST USED WORD IN THE BIBLE
BESIDES I THINK GOD HIMSELF.
AND SO IT JUST SHOWS THE IMPORTANCE.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
REBECCA: AND SO THAT'S WHERE I LIKE,
WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE.
IT MIGHT SEEM FOREIGN AT FIRST,
BUT GOD WILL DO IT SUPERNATURALLY IN YOU
AS YOU CONTINUE TO SEEK HIM.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
REBECCA: BECAUSE IT'S HIS PEOPLE, HIS CULTURE.
HE'S GIVEN US A WHOLE CULTURE.
YOU KNOW, THESE APPOINTED TIMES AND THEY'RE PROPHETIC
AND THEY SPEAK TO A GREATER IMPORTANCE,
AND WE LIVE IN A PAGAN WORLD.
AND THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE CULTURE,
IT'S SET APART.
RABBI CAHN: THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH.
AND EVERYTHING THAT THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE
IN FLESH AND BLOOD,
THE BELIEVER, TRUE BELIEVER, IS IN THE SPIRIT.
PECULIAR PEOPLE, CHOSEN PEOPLE,
YOU KNOW, CIRCUMCISED AND THIS AND THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE COME HOME,
BUT WERE EVER WANDERING.
WELL, WE ARE ALL COMING HOME.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL THAT WAY.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE JEWISH PEOPLE
ARE LIKE THE FLESH AND BLOOD PART, YOU KNOW,
AND THE CHURCH IS LIKE THE SPIRITUAL PART, YOU KNOW,
BUT A SPIRIT WITHOUT A BODY,
THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING.
SO THE JEWISH PEOPLE WITHOUT THE SPIRIT,
IT'S BEEN MISSING SOMETHING.
THE CHURCH WITHOUT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
IS LIKE A SPIRIT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE ROOTS,
DOESN'T HAVE ITS --
BUT WHEN IT COMES TOGETHER,
WHICH AT THE END,
IT WILL BE LIKE LIFE FROM THE DEAD.
IT WILL BE RESURRECTION.
JONATHAN: EXACTLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS SO IMPORTANT,
IS THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE DISUNITY IN THE CHURCH
AND HOW WE'RE SEGREGATED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS,
OR BELIEF SYSTEMS OR WAYS OF WORSHIPING.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE PEACE THAT'S GONNA
BRING US ALL TOGETHER
IS A REVELATORY UNDERSTANDING OF ISRAEL
AND THE PROPHETIC SIGNIFICANCE THERE.
RABBI CAHN: WELL, THAT'S ONE THING,
WHEN YOU THINK OF IT, WHETHER YOU'RE A BAPTIST,
WHETHER YOU'RE A PENTECOSTAL,
BUT THE ONE THING, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM GOD,
THE ONE THING OF YOUR HERITAGE,
YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME HERITAGE, WHICH IS JEWISH.
IT'S ALL -- THAT'S THE UNITY.
BECAUSE EVERY CHURCH COMES FROM JERUSALEM.
IN ONE SENSE, IT CAME FROM THERE.
SO, YEAH, IT'S LIKE WHERE IT WAS,
IT'S COMING BACK.
YOU KNOW, THE END TIMES IS LIKE RETURNING.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE BEGINNING,
YOU HAD A CHURCH THAT WAS ON FIRE,
YOU KNOW, FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT
AND ONE WITH ITS JEWISH ROOTS.
JEW AND GENTILE.
WELL, IN THE END, IT'S GOING THAT WAY, TOO.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER HAD CHURCHES SAYING YESHUA BEFORE,
OR BLOWING SHOFARS,
OR HAVING A PASSOVER DEMONSTRATION,
OR SAYING WE LOVE ISRAEL.
NEVER.
SINCE THE BEGINNING.
I MEAN, YOU NEVER HAD MUCH OF IT.
NOW IT'S ALL OVER.
SO IT IS PART OF THE END TIMES.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER MET A BELIEVER
WHO LOVED ISRAEL AND WAS NOT A BLESSED PERSON.
NEVER.
AND I'VE NEVER MET A PERSON WHO HATED
THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND WASN'T CURSED.
THE BIBLE SAYS SO YOU'LL BE BLESSED ON TOP OF IT.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
SO, I WANT TO SPEAK TO ISRAEL'S DESTINY,
BECAUSE WHEN I UNDERSTOOD THE ROOTS,
AND I LIKE THAT YOU GAVE THAT EXAMPLE, TOO,
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR ROOT SYSTEM,
YOU'RE NOT GROUNDED.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M SEEING PEOPLE KIND OF GO
OFF A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF BE OFF.
AND THEY MISS THAT
BECAUSE THEY'RE SEPARATED FROM THAT ROOT SYSTEM.
SO SPEAKING TO ISRAEL, FOR ALL THOSE WHO,
YOU KNOW, ARE LIKE ME,
WHO READ THE BIBLE, WOULDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE,
AND ONCE I REALIZED IT WAS A MASSIVE
KIND OF PIECE OF THE BIBLE,
AND FOUNDATIONAL TO THE WHOLE THING,
WOULD YOU SAY ISRAEL'S DESTINY WAS
THAT THEY WERE CALLED OUT TO BE SET APART
TO BLESS THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD
TO BRING THEM TO GOD?
RABBI CAHN: YEAH. WELL, YEAH.
THEY WERE SEPARATED.
YOU HAVE TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE WORLD
IN ORDER TO BLESS THE WORLD.
IF YOU'RE OF THE WORLD,
YOU CAN'T BLESS THE WORLD.
YOU HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO, YES, THE FIRST THING, YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE THEM.
BUT THE ULTIMATE MYSTERY SEPARATED THEM.
THEN THAT THEY WOULD BRING THE LIGHT TO THE WORLD.
YOU KNOW, THE APOSTLES, THE DISCIPLES.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, ISRAEL WAS ALWAYS CALLED
TO BRING GOD'S WORD TO THE WORLD.
BUT IT ONLY FULFILLED THAT
THROUGH THOSE JEWISH BELIEVERS.
SO THAT SAYS SOMETHING THAT JESUS IS THE MESSIAH.
BECAUSE THE WHOLE BIBLE HAS COME TO THE WORLD
IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
SO HOW CAN YOU SAY HE'S NOT THE MESSIAH?
BECAUSE GOD'S NOT GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN.
HE FULFILLED IT.
SO THROUGH THAT.
SO, YEAH, SO ISRAEL --
AND ISRAEL WAS TO BRING GOD INTO --
THE ULTIMATE THING IS, YOU BRING THE WORD INTO THE WORLD,
YOU BRING HIS WAYS INTO THE WORLD,
ULTIMATELY BRING GOD INTO THE WORLD.
REBECCA: THE MESSIAH.
RABBI CAHN: SO THAT IS THE MESSIAH,
BRINGING GOD INTO THE WORLD.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE JEWISH PEOPLE EXIST.
HE SAID THE MEANING,
HE SAID I'VE CALLED YOU TO BE A NATION OF PRIESTS,
RABBI CAHN: AND YOU FIND IT IN PETER AS A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD.
SO IF ISRAEL IS TO BE A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS,
TO WHO?
WHO'S IT GONNA MINISTER TO?
THE WORLD.
SO ISRAEL, IT SAYS, ARE TO BE THE PRIESTS OF THE WORLD.
WHICH HAS ONLY BEEN FULFILLED IN MESSIAH.
IT WILL BE WHEN HE COMES AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, WHEN ISRAEL COMES BACK TO MESSIAH,
THEN WE WILL AGAIN TO THE WORLD.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S THE BELIEVERS.
BUT, YEAH.
SO WE HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT,
AND THAT'S FOR ANYBODY,
YOU HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT FROM THE WORLD
IN ORDER TO BE A LIGHT UNTO THE WORLD.
REBECCA: AND SO ISRAEL REJECTED,
PAUL SAYS THEIR REJECTION OF MESSIAH,
ACTUALLY BROUGHT --
HELPED BRING SALVATION TO THE GENTILES.
SO NOW, WHAT IS ISRAEL'S PURPOSE NOW,
AND WHAT IS THEIR PROPHETIC FUTURE?
BECAUSE PAUL SAYS THAT EVENTUALLY
THEIR ACCEPTANCE OF YESHUA WILL MEAN
RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.
SO KIND OF UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH CAN NEVER BE COMPLETE
WITHOUT ISRAEL.
YOU KNOW, CAN NEVER BE FULFILLED.
ISRAEL CAN'T BE COMPLETE WITHOUT THE CHURCH EITHER.
IT'S ALL ONE.
THEY BELONG TO EACH OTHER,
THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IT.
REBECCA: THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE, TOO.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, YEAH.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE DAY,
WHEN I THINK OF LIKE -- LET'S GO TO,
YOU MENTIONED IT, RUTH AND NAOMI.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, HOW DID --
HOW DID RUTH GET BLESSED?
THROUGH NAOMI.
YOU KNOW, SO THE GENTILE WAS BLESSED
THROUGH THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
IF YOU'RE SAVED, IT WAS THROUGH THEM.
BUT AT THE END,
NAOMI IS BLESSED THROUGH RUTH.
IT GOES FULL CIRCLE.
SO IN THE END, THAT THE CHURCH AND THE GENTILES
IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THE BLESSING
AND REDEMPTION OF ISRAEL.
YOU KNOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW,
ISRAEL WILL LOOK AT THE CHURCH AND SAY,
MY DAUGHTER.
AND THE CHURCH WILL LOOK AT ISRAELL AND SAY,
MY MOTHER, YOU KNOW.
AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE,
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING --
AND RUTH'S BABY WAS COUNTED AS NAOMI'S BABY.
SO ALL THE FRUIT OF THE CHURCH
IS GONNA BE COUNTED ALSO FOR ISRAEL.
IT'S YOUR HARVEST.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE END,
THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOD IS IRONIC.
SO THEY'RE THE FIRST AND NOW THEY'RE THE LAST.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST SHALL BE LAST.
SO THEY WERE THE FIRST BELIEVERS.
AND IN THE BEGINNING THEY WERE THE MOST LIKELY.
IT'S JEWISH, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
IF THEY COULD LET IN GENTILES IN THE BEGINNING.
THEY HAD TO GET IN FROM GOD.
BUT NOW IT'S LIKE THE OPPOSITE,
CAN A JEWISH PERSON COME TO BELIEVE IN THE JEWISH MESSIAH?
SO GOD SAVES THEM FOR LAST.
YOU KNOW, GOD SAVES HIS FINAL ACT FOR LAST.
AND INTERESTING, HERE'S ANOTHER THING.
THIS IS GOING ALL OVER, I LIKE IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IN THE SACRED YEAR
DO THE JEWISH PEOPLE COME TO REPENTANCE IN GOD?
AT THE END OF THE SACRED YEAR.
WHICH IS THE SEVENTH MONTH,
WHICH IS ROSH HASHANAH,
FEAST OF YOM KIPPUR,
WHEN YOU GET RIGHT WITH GOD.
THAT'S NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
IT'S THE CLOSING OF THE SACRED YEAR.
SO WHEN WILL THE JEWISH PEOPLE COME?
AT THE END.
THEIR POINT IS AT THE END.
WHAT'S THE HOLIEST DAY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE?
NOT THE FIRST DAY,
I MEAN THAT'S GOOD,
BUT THE SABBATH, THE LAST DAY.
THEIR DAY IS THE LAST.
THEY'LL COME IN AT THE END.
NOW THERE ARE JEWISH PEOPLE COMING IN NOW,
THERE'S A REVIVAL.
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THAT.
REBECCA: ALMOST LIKE PREPARING THE WAY.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, A REMNANT.
BUT THE FINAL THING IS ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED,
THOSE WHO ARE LEFT.
SO IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL THING.
BECAUSE ONCE THEY COME, THAT'S IT.
ONCE THEY COME, HE COMES.
SO IF THEY CAME NOW,
WELL, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TIME
TO SAVE OTHER PEOPLE.
SO IT'S OKAY.
BUT SO THEIR DESTINY IS TO USHER IN THE KINGDOM.
YOU KNOW, THEY USHERED IN MESSIAH THE FIRST TIME
AS A LAMB, AS A BABY AND HUMBLY.
AND THEY WILL USHER HIM IN THE SECOND TIME
AS THE KING, AS THE LION OF JUDAH.
SO THEY'LL USHER IN THE KINGDOM.
THEY'LL USHER IN ALL THINGS.
ALL NATIONS.
THE WORLD SHALL BE FILLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD
AND THEY SHALL ALL COME UP TO JERUSALEM,
AND THE LION WILL LAY DOWN WITH THE CALF
AND THAT'S WHEN ISRAEL COMES BACK TO MESSIAH.
SEE, ISRAEL IS A PRIEST,
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PRIEST COMES TO THE ALTAR,
YOU KNOW, YOU GET SAVED.
WHEN THE PRIEST GOES TO THE ALTAR WITH WHAT?
SO WHEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE COME TO THE ALTAR
OF THE CROSS,
THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED.
REBECCA: WE SPOKE ABOUT ISRAEL.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMERICA.
AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH
BECAUSE WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN THROUGH
I THINK MULTIPLE SHAKINGS
IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
I MEAN, EVEN 2020 AND 2021
HAS BEEN A REALLY BIG SHAKING.
JONATHAN: GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TOGETHER.
REBECCA: AND WHAT I LIKED WHAT YOU
TALKED ABOUT EARLIER,
IS YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WILL RETURN
TO THE WAY THINGS WERE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS,
IS IN THE TIME OF ACTS,
THAT THINGS WERE VERY SECULAR, VERY PAGAN,
VERY IMMORAL,
AND CHRISTIANITY WAS VERY PERSECUTED.
BUT IN THAT, THE CHURCH ACTUALLY THRIVED.
AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE VERSES IS IN PHILIPPIANS
AND PAUL TALKS ABOUT HOW
WE WILL SHINE LIKE STARS IN THE LAST DAYS.
EVEN THOUGH THE NIGHT WILL BE DARK,
WE WILL SHINE LIKE STARS BECAUSE OF THAT
AMONGST A PERVERSE AND CROOKED GENERATION.
AND SO I BELIEVE WE'RE KIND OF COMING INTO THAT.
AND SO, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS,
DO YOU BELIEVE PERSECUTION IS COMING
FOR BELIEVERS IN AMERICA,
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN EASY,
AND IF SO, HOW DO WE PREPARE FOR THAT SPIRITUALLY?
RABBI: YEAH, I BELIEVE IT IS COMING.
WE ALREADY HAVE SIGNS OF IT.
WE ALREADY HAVE ASPECTS OF IT.
YOU KNOW, WHERE BELIEVERS REALLY CAN'T SAY THINGS,
THEY CAN'T TALK, AND THEY'RE REVILED BY THE CULTURE,
MOCKED, YOU KNOW.
AND THERE ARE LAWS RIGHT NOW ON THE TABLES
THAT IF PASSED BY THE CONGRESS
COULD BE DEADLY TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH,
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND ALL THAT.
SO, YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALL PART OF IT, TOO.
LIKE IN THE LAST DAYS OF ISRAEL,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY WERE PERSECUTING THE PROPHETS,
THEY WERE TRYING TO SILENCE EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S A SIGN OF JUDGMENT.
SO, YEAH, AND THE OTHER THING
SO PEOPLE WILL BE FULLY ON THAT,
IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING IS RETURNING
TO WHERE IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING.
THE END IS LIKE THE BEGINNING,
THE FIRST AND LAST.
THE END IS LIKE THE BEGINNING.
SO THE JEWISH PEOPLE IN THE BEGINNING,
YOU HAD ISRAEL IN THE WORLD.
YOU HAVEN'T HAD IT FOR 2,000 YEARS.
YOU DO AGAIN.
REBECCA: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
RABBI CAHN: YOU HAD JERUSALEM IN JEWISH HANDS.
HAVEN'T HAD THAT FOR 2,000 YEARS.
YOU GOT IT AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAD JEWISH BELIEVERS THEN.
YOU HAVEN'T HAD THAT PRETTY MUCH FOR --
YOU HAVE THAT AGAIN.
YOU HAVE JEW AND GENTILE TOGETHER.
YOU REALLY HAVEN'T THAT.
EVERYTHING.
BUT THEN THE OTHER PART IS,
YOU DON'T OFTEN THINK ABOUT IT IN BAD TERMS,
SO IF THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE RETURNING
TO WHERE THEY WERE,
THE JEWISH BELIEVER IS COMING BACK,
THE JEWISH APOSTLE IS COMING BACK,
AND THE JEW AND GENTILE IN CHURCH,
THAT'S BACK TO ITS JEWISH ROOTS.
THAT HASN'T BEEN FOR 2,000 YEARS.
ALL OF IT.
BUT THEN THE WORLD, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD
GOING AWAY FROM --
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO WHERE IT WAS,
WHICH WAS PAGAN,
WHICH WAS ANTI-CHRISTIAN,
WHICH WAS THE ROMAN EMPIRE.
SO YOU'VE GOT THAT,
BUT THAT MEANS THEN THE CHURCH
HAS TO GO BACK TO WHERE IT WAS,
WHICH IS THE BOOK OF ACTS.
BUT IT ALL GOES TOGETHER.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOOK OF ACTS,
YOU ALSO HAVE JEWISH BELIEVERS.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOOK OF ACTS,
YOU HAVE AN ANTI-CHRISTIAN CULTURE.
SEE, MOST OF US WERE RAISED TO SOME DEGREE,
YOU LESS SO THAN ME,
BECAUSE IT'S AT A LATER STAGE,
BUT WHERE THE CULTURE WAS, QUOTE, CHRISTIAN,
OR MORE CHRISTIAN.
AND IF YOU GO BACK MORE, IT'S MORE AND MORE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GREW UP,
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S SAYING THEY'RE CHRISTIAN
UNLESS YOU'RE JEWISH, YOU KNOW.
EVERYBODY WAS CHRISTIAN.
EVERYBODY -- AND THE THING IS THAT --
THE THING IS THAT --
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN EVERYTHING'S CHRISTIAN,
EVERYTHING IS GRAY
BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS.
SO NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE GRAYS ARE DISAPPEARING,
AND AS THE DARK GETS DARKER,
IT'S THROWING OFF THE LIGHT.
IT'S THROWING OFF CHRISTIANITY.
SO THAT MEANS LIGHT GETS PURER
BECAUSE IT'S THROWING,
IT'S GOT TO THROW OFF THE DARKNESS,
BECAUSE IT'S PUTTING THIS LINE.
SO THE VERY THINGS THAT WE DON'T LIKE,
THE VERY THINGS THAT SAY,
YOU KNOW, THAT COME AGAINST YOU AS A CHRISTIAN,
YOU KNOW, ARE GONNA MAKE YOU,
ARE GONNA MAKE US, TRULY LIKE THE BOOK OF ACTS.
BECAUSE THOSE WHO STAND,
THEY GET PURIFIED.
BECAUSE THE GRAYS DISAPPEAR IN THEIR LIFE.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IT.
SO THE VERY THING --
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WHO'S GONNA STAND FOR THE LORD NOW?
BACK THEN EVERYBODY SAID THEY WERE A CHRISTIAN.
LESS PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY'RE A CHRISTIAN.
THOSE WHO ARE -- INCREASINGLY, THOSE WHO SAY THEY ARE,
YOU'RE GONNA KNOW THEY ARE REALLY.
SO IT ACTUALLY --
IT ACTUALLY WORKS HAND IN HAND.
YOU GET THE --
THE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE GREAT OPPOSITION
IS WHEN YOU GET GREATNESS IN GOD, YOU KNOW.
AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY, BUT IT IS.
SO GOD'S GONNA BE TAKING --
YOU KNOW, IF THE DARK IS SAYING,
I'M GETTING PURIFIED,
I'M GETTING ALL THIS LIGHT OUT OF ME,
YOU KNOW, ALL THAT.
WELL, THEN THE LIGHT HAS TO DO THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE TO GET, WE HAVE TO PURIFY OURSELVES.
WE HAVE TO GET THAT STUFF THAT'S NOT,
AND WE'RE GONNA BECOME LIKE LIGHT, STARS IN THE NIGHT.
THAT'S THE PICTURE THE BIBLE GIVES.
ALSO IN DANIEL, WILL SHINE LIKE STARS IN THE NIGHT.
BUT THAT'S GOOD.
SO IT'S A DOUBLE THING.
SO WHAT WE DON'T LIKE IS ACTUALLY GOOD IN THAT SENSE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND SO NOW IT'S KINDA -- IT'S BECOMING A TIME IN AMERICA
WHERE FOR THE FIRST TIME
PEOPLE ARE REALLY HAVING TO MAKE A CHOICE,
ARE THEY GOING TO STAND UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT?
AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT,
WE HAVE TO BECOME LIKE ELIJAH.
BECAUSE ELIJAH, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE STORY
OF JEZEBEL AND ALL OF THAT,
ISRAEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TIME WHEN
ISRAEL WAS KIND OF AT THE CUSP OF GOING
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND ELIJAH STOOD AGAINST SOMEONE VERY INTIMIDATING,
JEZEBEL, THE SPIRIT OF JEZEBEL,
AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROPHETS OF BAAL,
THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHO THEY WERE,
THE FALSE GOD THAT THEY WERE WORSHIPING AT THAT TIME,
ONE OF THEM AT LEAST.
AND HE STOOD FIRM, AND BECAUSE HE DID
GOD MOVED MIGHTILY
AND IT AFFECTED THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
AND SO THAT IS HOW --
THAT IS WHO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
HOW DO WE BECOME LIKE THAT?
RABBI CAHN: ONE IS WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
BEFORE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BATTLE,
BEFORE BEING PERSECUTED,
BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION,
YOU KNOW, I HAVE DECIDED TO FOLLOW JESUS,
NO TURNING BACK, NO TURNING BACK.
THE WORLD BEHIND ME AND THE CROSS BEFORE ME.
DON'T GO WITH ME.
WHAT HAPPENS IF NO ONE GOES WITH ME?
I'M WITH YOU, GOD.
SO FIRST, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
LORD, I AM WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW, ELIJAH'S NAME, ELIYYAHU OR ELIA,
MEANS THE LORD IS GOD.
YOU KNOW, MY GOD IS THE LORD.
HE'S MINE.
AND THAT'S THE END, HE'S THE ONE WHO SAID,
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THAT HAPPENED?
THEY ALL SAID THE LORD IS GOD.
WELL, HE WAS BORN FOR THAT MOMENT,
THAT SORT OF THING.
SO WE HAVE TO SAY, LISTEN,
THE LORD IS TRULY GOD IN MY LIFE.
I DON'T CARE, LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY.
I'M GONNA STAND FOR YOU, LORD,
AS YOU STOOD FOR ME, NO MATTER WHAT.
SO THAT ONE THING IS TO GET --
AND THE SECOND THING IS TO GET MORE PLUGGED INTO GOD.
BECAUSE THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO GOD --
YOU WANT TO STAND,
YOU'RE GONNA NEED THE SPIRIT,
YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO BE PLUGGED IN.
THE CLOSER YOU GET TO GOD,
THE MORE PLUGGED IN, THE MORE STRONG
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BE WITH THE WORLD.
AND ALSO, WHATEVER IS IN YOUR LIFE
THAT'S NOT OF GOD, IT'S OF THE WORLD,
GET AWAY, START SEPARATING FROM IT NOW.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU'RE WATCHING, YOU'RE SEEING,
THAT'S NOT RIGHT, GET AWAY FROM IT NOW.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT,
YOU'VE GOT TO BE DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE GONNA
MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO ELIJAH WAS.
ELIJAH WAS.
AND ELIJAH WAS PLUGGED IN.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A FAMINE,
BUT HE HAD HIS OWN SOURCE WITH GOD,
SO HE WAS PLUGGED IN.
SO ELIJAH WAS RADICAL.
SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE NOW
AND PUT YOURSELF IN THAT SITUATION,
WHAT WILL I DO IF THEY SAY,
IF YOU SAY THIS, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE YOUR JOB,
YOU'RE GONNA BE THIS?
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
ARE YOU GONNA COMPROMISE,
OR ARE YOU GONNA TRUST THE LORD?
SO DECIDE THAT NOW
AND YOU CAN BE LIKE ELIJAH.
AND BY THE WAY, ELIJAH WAS A HUMAN BEING.
THE BIBLE SAYS HE WAS JUST LIKE US.
HE HAD HIS MOMENTS.
WE KNOW HE HAD HIS MOMENTS,
BUT HE ALSO ROSE TO BECOME ELIJAH.
AND YOU CAN RISE.
EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS A GREAT CALLING
AND THIS IS A TIME FOR GREATNESS.
IT SAYS THE EYES OF THE LORD ARE SEARCHING
THE ENTIRE EARTH LOOKING FOR THE ONE
WHOSE HEART IS HIS.
HE'LL SHOW HIMSELF MIGHTY FOR THAT ONE.
SO YOU DETERMINE YOU BE THAT ONE.
JONATHAN: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS,
IT'S GOING TO BE RELEASED TO EVERYONE,
WE'RE IN THE YEAR OF 5782,
AND WE KNOW THE 80S IS THE LETTER PEY,
BECAUSE EVERY NUMBER HAS A HEBREW LETTER EQUIVALENT
WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE
GOD'S HEAVENLY LANGUAGE,
WE CAN LOOK AND STUDY OUT THE SYMBOLICS THERE
AND LEARN FROM THAT AND GAIN FROM THAT.
AND WHAT'S NEAT ABOUT THIS IS
I'VE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE TEACH ON THIS,
IS 80 BEING PE, AND 2 BEING THE LETTERBET,
THERE'S ACTUALLY A BET WITHIN THE LETTER PE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO HEBREW LETTERS.
AND WHAT'S NEAT IS THE SAME THING,
JUST TO TIE IN WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
THE LIGHTNESS IS BECOMING LIGHTER,
THE DARKNESS IS BECOMING DARKER.
SO WE'RE SEEING THAT THOSE THAT IT'S
BEING HIGHLIGHTED WITHIN WHAT IS REAL.
WHAT'S ALSO NEAT, TOO, IS PE BEING MOUTH, RIGHT,
THE WORD PE MEANS MOUTH,
WE'RE IN THE DECADE OF THE MOUTH.
NOW IS THE TIME WHERE WE HAVE TO STAND AND
SPEAK THE TRUTH, NOT SIT BACK AND BE SILENT
OR BE DORMANT OR BE LETHARGIC.
IT'S NOW MORE THAN EVER WE HAVE TO STAND UP
AND GET ON THE CHANNELS THAT WE CAN,
WHETHER IT'S YOUTUBE OR WHATEVER IT IS,
AND SPEAK THE TRUTH.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, INTERESTING YOU SAID THE PE,
BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME DECADE
WHEN MORE MOUTHS HAVE BEEN COVERED UP BY MASKS.
AND WHEN THE ENEMY IS TRYING TO COVER UP
THE MOUTH OF THE CHURCH,
YOU KNOW, OF PEOPLE, CONSERVATIVES,
CANCELING THEM OUT, WE HAVE TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T SPEAK,
THEN IT WINS.
IF EVERYBODY IS AFRAID,
YOU'RE GIVING THE VICTORY,
YOU'RE GIVING IT UP WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
GOD WILL HONOR YOU.
GOD WILL HONOR THE ONES WHO STAND.
REBECCA: I WAS ON ANOTHER SHOW WITH YOU
AND YOU SAID SOMETHING REALLY PROFOUND.
YOU SAID EVERYONE'S AFRAID OF BEING CANCELED
SO THEY WON'T SAY ANYTHING,
BUT THAT IN ITSELF CANCELS THEM.
RABBI CAHN: AND YOU'RE CANCELING YOURSELF, YES.
JONATHAN: I'M MORE AFRAID OF BEING CANCELED BY GOD,
SO I'M JUST GONNA KEEP SPEAKING.
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY FEAR LIES
IS REVERENCE TO THE LORD,
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE FEAR THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
THE ONLY FEAR WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE
IS FEAR OF THE LORD.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.
YOU KNOW, THE SEEING GOD AND THAT'S THE ANTIDOTE
TO THE WORLD.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOD DOESN'T WANT US TO BE
CARING ABOUT PEOPLE REJECTING US
OR ACCEPTING US.
WE GOT TO GET FREE, GET OVER THAT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK.
YOU WANT TO GET SO MUCH INTO WHAT GOD THINKS
THAT YOU'RE IMMUNE.
THAT'S THE ANTIDOTE.
GOD IS THE ANTIDOTE TO ALL THOSE THINGS,
ALL THOSE FEARS, ALL THOSE WORRIES.
SO THAT, HEY GOD, I JUST WANT TO PLEASE YOU.
REBECCA: YEAH. AND YOU GET THAT,
I FEEL LIKE THE CLOSER YOU GET TO GOD,
THE LESS YOU CARE ABOUT THE OTHER VOICES
AND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
BUT IF YOU'RE SO IMMERSED IN THE WORLD,
YOU'RE MORE IN TUNE WITH THE WORLD
THAN YOU ARE WITH GOD.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
AND THAT'S PART OF GETTING PLUGGED IN.
WE HAVE REPLENISH OURSELVES, REFRESH,
LORD, I JUST WANT THAT.
AND THE MORE YOU ARE --
AND LISTEN, THE OTHER THING IS,
IT GOES WITH IT THAT WE'RE LIVING IN THESE DAYS,
AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OKAY, HOW DO I GET BY,
WHAT SHOULD I DO?
BUT IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THAT.
GOD PUT US HERE TO BE A BLESSING TO THE WORLD.
WE'RE HERE ON MISSION.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO GET BY.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO SURVIVE.
WE'RE HERE TO BLESS THE WORLD.
WE'RE HERE TO MINISTER TO THE WORLD.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT IMMEDIATELY CHANGES
THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF IT.
WHETHER THEY ACCEPT ME OR NOT ACCEPT ME,
LISTEN, I'M TRYING TO HELP THEM
GET ACCEPTED INTO THE KINGDOM.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHO WE ARE,
AND IT'S EXCITING.
AND IF GOD DIDN'T WANT US NOW
WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN THE MIDDLE AGES.
HE WANTED US NOW
SO HE'S GOING TO ANOINT US FOR NOW,
HE'S APPOINTED US,
HE'S GOING TO EMPOWER US.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS STAND.
REBECCA: THAT'S SUCH A GOOD WORD.
I REMEMBER JOHN PAUL JACKSON WHO WAS A MENTOR TO US,
HE SAID, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING TIMES
YOU COULD BE LIVING IN.
SO ACTUALLY COUNT IT AN HONOR
THAT GOD HAS DECIDED,
BECAUSE HE DECIDED WHAT TIME AND AGE
WE WOULD LIVE IN.
AND SO I THINK SO MANY TIMES
PEOPLE WILL COME AT WHAT'S GOING ON,
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON,
YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THE END.
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE END OF THE END EXACTLY SHALL BE,
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S BEEN SIGNS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ISRAEL HAS BEEN KIND OF A SUPER SIGN,
EVERYTHING THAT'S TRANSPIRED THERE.
BUT WE DON'T NEED TO BE AFRAID.
WE GET TO STAND BOLDLY AND BE EXCITED
BECAUSE THIS IS WHEN GOD IS REALLY MOVING.
IN A WAY I BELIEVE THAT --
AND EVERYONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO
BELIEVES THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT REVIVAL.
AND WE HAVE A LOT THAT WE CAN EITHER CONTRIBUTE
OR WE CAN RUN AWAY IN FEAR.
BUT I THINK THE SOONER WE CAN RECOGNIZE
THAT THIS WORLD ISN'T OUR HOME,
AND THAT THIS ISN'T TIME TO GET COMFORTABLE
OR TO GET SETTLED,
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST TEMPTATIONS,
LIVING IN AMERICA,
BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO BE COMFORTABLE HERE.
AND NOW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M STARTING TO SEE,
FEEL REAL PUSHBACK AS A BELIEVER.
IT'S LIKE, OH, WOW, THIS IS A REMINDER,
THIS WORLD ISN'T OUR HOME.
AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE LOT'S WIFE
AND LOOK BACK AT SODOM AND GOMORRAH
AND LIKE WISH TO BE THERE.
I FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS THE SIN.
IT WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS HER HOME TO HER
AND SHE WAS GOING TO MISS IT,
WHEN GOD WAS SAYING MOVE FORWARD,
DON'T LOOK BACK. THIS ISN'T YOUR HOME.
AND SO, YEAH.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, THIS --
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MISSIONARIES,
OH, I'M NOT A MISSIONARY.
YEAH, IF YOU'RE ON EARTH, YOU'RE A MISSIONARY.
THIS IS OUR MISSION FIELD.
THIS IS NOT OUR HOME.
IT'S OUR MISSION FIELD.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET PAST A LOT OF STUFF BY THAT.
IT WILL CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMIC.
I'M NOT HERE TO GET,
I'M HERE TO BE A LIGHT.
I'M HERE TO SHINE.
I DON'T NEED FROM THE WORLD.
THIS IS THE IDEAL.
I'M SO FILLED WITH GOD,
I'M HERE TO BLESS AND DO MY THING.
SO I'M NOT LIVING IN FEAR ANYMORE,
YOU KNOW, WE SEE THESE BIBLE HEROES AND WE SAY,
OH, THIS IS SO GREAT.
EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD ISSUES LIKE THIS,
AND WE DON'T WANT THE ISSUES,
BUT THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE HEROES.
THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE GREATNESS, YOU KNOW.
AND SO MANY BELIEVERS SAY,
OH, I WISH I LIVED IN BIBLICAL, BIBLE TIMES.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE HERE NOW.
LIVE IT.
LIVE IT. RISE TO IT.
AND THIS IS WHEN IT REALLY COUNTS, YOU KNOW.
IT'S ONE THING, YOU HAVE A FRIEND,
A FAIR-WEATHER FRIEND,
BUT THE FRIEND WHO STICKS WITH YOU
WHEN NOBODY ELSE WILL,
WELL, THAT'S HOW IT IS WITH YOU AND GOD.
NOW IT MEANS EVERYTHING TO GOD.
WHEN YOU STAND FOR HIM, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS,
THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT.
REBECCA: I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA
INCLUDE THIS IN THE SHOW,
BUT I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ANOTHER BOOK CALLEDTHE PARADIGM,
AND YOU REALLY BREAK DOWN
THAT WHOLE THING WITH THE SIMILARITIES
BETWEEN TRUMP AND JEHU
AND JEZEBEL AND HILLARY AND ALL THAT
AND IT'S AN INCREDIBLE BOOK
AND SUCH AN AMAZING MESSAGE.
YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN 2020,
WE KNOW TRUMP DIDN'T WIN THE ELECTION.
I KNOW A LOT OF BELIEVERS THOUGHT HE WOULD
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY HE DID AND IT WAS STOLEN.
MY QUESTION REALLY ISN'T ABOUT ALL THAT.
DO YOU THINK THAT MAYBE AN AREA
WHERE MAYBE CHRISTIANS WERE KIND OF OFF,
WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE TRUMP WAS KIND OF LIKE
ALMOST A SAVIOR THAT WAS GOING TO FIX
ALL OF THE PROBLEMS,
AND THAT IF HE HAD GOTTEN INTO OFFICE,
EVERYTHING WAS GONNA BE OKAY
AND DO YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN
ALMOST COMPLACENT?
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, YES. YEAH.
I'M NOT SAYING EVERYONE,
BUT THAT WAS CERTAINLY THERE
AND THAT'S HUMAN NATURE.
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO'S A STRONG MAN,
HEY, HE'S GONNA BE OUR DEFENSE
AND HE'S IN THERE, HE'S GONNA DO WHAT WE WANT.
SO IT'S TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP.
WELL, YOU KNOW, NO MAN IS THE ANSWER.
WE THANK GOD FOR THE GOOD THAT DONALD TRUMP DID,
AS MUCH AS ON THE ISSUES OF LIFE
AND ISRAEL AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND ALL THAT.
IT WASN'T PERFECT.
JEHU WASN'T PERFECT EITHER.
JEHU WAS USED OF GOD, THOUGH.
BUT HE WAS NOT --
YOU KNOW, HE WAS GOOD ON BAAL,
BUT HE WASN'T GOOD ON THE GOLDEN CALF.
YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN ISSUES
WITH TRUMP THAT WEREN'T,
YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT OUR MESSIAH.
HE'S A MAN.
AND THE THING IS,
SO LISTEN, ANYONE WHO'S GONNA HELP GOD'S PURPOSES,
GREAT, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
BUT IT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
THE ANSWER IS ONLY JESUS AND GOD.
WE CAN NEVER FORGET THAT.
AND IF WE DO, GOD WILL REMIND US VERY QUICKLY.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WITH TRUMP
IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE DID THOSE THINGS
AND HE KEPT CERTAIN THINGS
FROM GOING FORWARD OR SLOWING DOWN.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE REPUBLICANS
ARE TRYING TO DO NOW, SLOW DOWN THE DEMOCRATS.
BUT THE THING IS THAT -- THE THING IS, THOUGH,
IN THAT TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE REVIVAL.
AND IN THAT TIME,
THE CULTURE DIDN'T GET BETTER, IT GOT WORSE.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD LEGAL THINGS,
BUT IT GOT MUCH WORSE.
I MEAN, IN THAT TIME,
WOKEISM TRIUMPHED IN AMERICA.
IN THAT TIME, CHILDREN'S CARTOONING
BECAME INDOCTRINATION INTO LGBT.
IT WENT TO THINGS WE NEVER --
IT JUST KEPT GOING.
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY REVIVAL,
IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE HEART,
YOU'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE NATION.
YOU CAN CHANGE LAWS,
IT WILL BE LIKE A DAM AGAINST THE WATER,
BUT EVENTUALLY THAT WATER IS GOING TO PUSH IT AWAY.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN THAT TERM ENDED,
IT WAS LIKE A FLOOD OF LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE GOING NOW.
SO, YES, I MEAN WE SHOULD --
YOU KNOW, POLITICS CAN BE A HELP
AND THEY CAN BE A WINDOW FOR THE ANSWER,
BUT IT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
AND SO WE HAVE THE WINDOW,
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE REVIVAL.
REVIVAL IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA SAVE US.
SO, YEAH, SO AGAIN WE CAN SUPPORT ANYONE
WHO'S GONNA HELP OR BETTER HELP THE PURPOSES OF GOD,
BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND,
WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER WE'RE NOT HOME,
THERE'S ONLY ONE ANSWER, IT'S NOT MAN, YOU KNOW.
AND THE ULTIMATE CHANGE HAS TO BE THE HEART.
REBECCA: SO DO YOU THINK WITH EVERYTHING
THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW,
BECAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE COULD FEEL DISCOURAGED
FOR THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING,
DO YOU THINK NOW BECAUSE THINGS ARE GETTING
MORE DIFFICULT,
ACTUALLY REVIVAL COULD BE MORE
LIKE A POSSIBILITY NOW MORE THAN EVER
BECAUSE IT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING
THAT THEY TURN TO GOD?
RABBI CAHN: IT COULD BE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINGS HAVE TO GET WORSE
BEFORE THEY GET BETTER SOMETIMES.
SOMETIMES MANY PEOPLE COME TO THE LORD
BECAUSE THINGS GOT SO BAD, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS,
THE MORAL EVIL, DARKNESS PART,
THAT DOESN'T HELP.
BUT SITUATIONS OF SHAKING
AND, YOU KNOW, ECONOMY AND DIVISION,
I MEAN, AMERICA IS DIVIDED
MORE THAN EVER IN MY LIFETIME.
AND WE'RE ALMOST FEELING LIKE
THE CENTER IS NOT HOLDING.
IT'S LIKE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP,
IT WAS LIKE IT'S A VERY STRONG AMERICA.
THEY HAD DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT AMERICA.
BUT IT'S NOT THERE NOW.
AND SO WILL IT DIVIDE, OR WILL THIS WOKEISM TAKE OVER,
YOU KNOW, BUT, LISTEN, EITHER WAY
IT'S NOT GONNA BE BORING.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE DULL.
AND WE'VE GOT A JOB TO DO.
AND WE WERE BORN FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS, YOU KNOW.
REBECCA: SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR
THE CHURCH TO STAND UP.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS BUT WE KNOW...
RABBI CAHN: WHO HOLDS THE FUTURE.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
OKAY. WELL, RABBI JONATHAN CAHN --
JONATHAN: THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
REBECCA: YES, SERIOUSLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
RABBI CAHN: MY HONOR, MY JOY.
YOU'RE A GREAT HOST, BY THE WAY.
REBECCA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
RABBI CAHN: I'M NOT THROWING THAT OUT,
IT WAS REALLY GOOD.
JONATHAN: SHE'S REALLY GOOD.
REBECCA: I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
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REBECCA: HEY, GUYS,
WELCOME BACK TO ANOTHER EPISODE
OFON AIR WITH REBECCA.
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION
WITH RABBI JONATHAN CAHN,
AND WHAT HE SEES HAPPENING PROPHETICALLY
IN OUR WORLD TODAY.
LET'S GET BACK INTO IT.
REBECCA: THAT'S WHY I LOVE THE EXAMPLE
OF RUTH AND NAOMI,
BECAUSE RUTH LOVED NAOMI
AND THAT'S WHY SHE FOLLOWED HER.
AND SHE SAID, YOUR PEOPLE ARE MY PEOPLE.
YOUR GOD IS MY GOD.
WHERE YOU GO, I GO.
AND I REALIZED THAT,
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST PLACE
FOR YOU TO COME AT IT.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO COME FROM A PLACE OF LIKE
WORK OF YOUR FLESH,
IT COMES FROM A PLACE OF LOVE IN YOUR HEART
WITH INTIMACY WITH GOD.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
REBECCA: BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOVE GOD,
YOU LOVE WHAT HE LOVES.
RABBI CAHN: THAT'S RIGHT.
REBECCA: AND ISRAEL IS THE APPLE OF GOD'S EYE.
I REMEMBER ONE TIME SOMEONE TAUGHT ME THAT
THE WORDLOVE IN THE BIBLE
IS LIKE 200 TIMES,
AND THEN ISRAEL IS IN THE BIBLE LIKE 2,000 TIMES.
IT'S THE MOST USED WORD IN THE BIBLE
BESIDES I THINK GOD HIMSELF.
AND SO IT JUST SHOWS THE IMPORTANCE.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
REBECCA: AND SO THAT'S WHERE I LIKE,
WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE.
IT MIGHT SEEM FOREIGN AT FIRST,
BUT GOD WILL DO IT SUPERNATURALLY IN YOU
AS YOU CONTINUE TO SEEK HIM.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
REBECCA: BECAUSE IT'S HIS PEOPLE, HIS CULTURE.
HE'S GIVEN US A WHOLE CULTURE.
YOU KNOW, THESE APPOINTED TIMES AND THEY'RE PROPHETIC
AND THEY SPEAK TO A GREATER IMPORTANCE,
AND WE LIVE IN A PAGAN WORLD.
AND THAT'S WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE CULTURE,
IT'S SET APART.
RABBI CAHN: THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH.
AND EVERYTHING THAT THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE
IN FLESH AND BLOOD,
THE BELIEVER, TRUE BELIEVER, IS IN THE SPIRIT.
PECULIAR PEOPLE, CHOSEN PEOPLE,
YOU KNOW, CIRCUMCISED AND THIS AND THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE COME HOME,
BUT WERE EVER WANDERING.
WELL, WE ARE ALL COMING HOME.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL THAT WAY.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE JEWISH PEOPLE
ARE LIKE THE FLESH AND BLOOD PART, YOU KNOW,
AND THE CHURCH IS LIKE THE SPIRITUAL PART, YOU KNOW,
BUT A SPIRIT WITHOUT A BODY,
THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING.
SO THE JEWISH PEOPLE WITHOUT THE SPIRIT,
IT'S BEEN MISSING SOMETHING.
THE CHURCH WITHOUT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
IS LIKE A SPIRIT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE ROOTS,
DOESN'T HAVE ITS --
BUT WHEN IT COMES TOGETHER,
WHICH AT THE END,
IT WILL BE LIKE LIFE FROM THE DEAD.
IT WILL BE RESURRECTION.
JONATHAN: EXACTLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS SO IMPORTANT,
IS THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE DISUNITY IN THE CHURCH
AND HOW WE'RE SEGREGATED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS,
OR BELIEF SYSTEMS OR WAYS OF WORSHIPING.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE PEACE THAT'S GONNA
BRING US ALL TOGETHER
IS A REVELATORY UNDERSTANDING OF ISRAEL
AND THE PROPHETIC SIGNIFICANCE THERE.
RABBI CAHN: WELL, THAT'S ONE THING,
WHEN YOU THINK OF IT, WHETHER YOU'RE A BAPTIST,
WHETHER YOU'RE A PENTECOSTAL,
BUT THE ONE THING, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM GOD,
THE ONE THING OF YOUR HERITAGE,
YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME HERITAGE, WHICH IS JEWISH.
IT'S ALL -- THAT'S THE UNITY.
BECAUSE EVERY CHURCH COMES FROM JERUSALEM.
IN ONE SENSE, IT CAME FROM THERE.
SO, YEAH, IT'S LIKE WHERE IT WAS,
IT'S COMING BACK.
YOU KNOW, THE END TIMES IS LIKE RETURNING.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE BEGINNING,
YOU HAD A CHURCH THAT WAS ON FIRE,
YOU KNOW, FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT
AND ONE WITH ITS JEWISH ROOTS.
JEW AND GENTILE.
WELL, IN THE END, IT'S GOING THAT WAY, TOO.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER HAD CHURCHES SAYING YESHUA BEFORE,
OR BLOWING SHOFARS,
OR HAVING A PASSOVER DEMONSTRATION,
OR SAYING WE LOVE ISRAEL.
NEVER.
SINCE THE BEGINNING.
I MEAN, YOU NEVER HAD MUCH OF IT.
NOW IT'S ALL OVER.
SO IT IS PART OF THE END TIMES.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER MET A BELIEVER
WHO LOVED ISRAEL AND WAS NOT A BLESSED PERSON.
NEVER.
AND I'VE NEVER MET A PERSON WHO HATED
THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND WASN'T CURSED.
THE BIBLE SAYS SO YOU'LL BE BLESSED ON TOP OF IT.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
SO, I WANT TO SPEAK TO ISRAEL'S DESTINY,
BECAUSE WHEN I UNDERSTOOD THE ROOTS,
AND I LIKE THAT YOU GAVE THAT EXAMPLE, TOO,
WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR ROOT SYSTEM,
YOU'RE NOT GROUNDED.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M SEEING PEOPLE KIND OF GO
OFF A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF BE OFF.
AND THEY MISS THAT
BECAUSE THEY'RE SEPARATED FROM THAT ROOT SYSTEM.
SO SPEAKING TO ISRAEL, FOR ALL THOSE WHO,
YOU KNOW, ARE LIKE ME,
WHO READ THE BIBLE, WOULDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE,
AND ONCE I REALIZED IT WAS A MASSIVE
KIND OF PIECE OF THE BIBLE,
AND FOUNDATIONAL TO THE WHOLE THING,
WOULD YOU SAY ISRAEL'S DESTINY WAS
THAT THEY WERE CALLED OUT TO BE SET APART
TO BLESS THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD
TO BRING THEM TO GOD?
RABBI CAHN: YEAH. WELL, YEAH.
THEY WERE SEPARATED.
YOU HAVE TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE WORLD
IN ORDER TO BLESS THE WORLD.
IF YOU'RE OF THE WORLD,
YOU CAN'T BLESS THE WORLD.
YOU HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO, YES, THE FIRST THING, YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE THEM.
BUT THE ULTIMATE MYSTERY SEPARATED THEM.
THEN THAT THEY WOULD BRING THE LIGHT TO THE WORLD.
YOU KNOW, THE APOSTLES, THE DISCIPLES.
WHICH, YOU KNOW, ISRAEL WAS ALWAYS CALLED
TO BRING GOD'S WORD TO THE WORLD.
BUT IT ONLY FULFILLED THAT
THROUGH THOSE JEWISH BELIEVERS.
SO THAT SAYS SOMETHING THAT JESUS IS THE MESSIAH.
BECAUSE THE WHOLE BIBLE HAS COME TO THE WORLD
IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
SO HOW CAN YOU SAY HE'S NOT THE MESSIAH?
BECAUSE GOD'S NOT GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN.
HE FULFILLED IT.
SO THROUGH THAT.
SO, YEAH, SO ISRAEL --
AND ISRAEL WAS TO BRING GOD INTO --
THE ULTIMATE THING IS, YOU BRING THE WORD INTO THE WORLD,
YOU BRING HIS WAYS INTO THE WORLD,
ULTIMATELY BRING GOD INTO THE WORLD.
REBECCA: THE MESSIAH.
RABBI CAHN: SO THAT IS THE MESSIAH,
BRINGING GOD INTO THE WORLD.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE JEWISH PEOPLE EXIST.
HE SAID THE MEANING,
HE SAID I'VE CALLED YOU TO BE A NATION OF PRIESTS,
RABBI CAHN: AND YOU FIND IT IN PETER AS A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD.
SO IF ISRAEL IS TO BE A KINGDOM OF PRIESTS,
TO WHO?
WHO'S IT GONNA MINISTER TO?
THE WORLD.
SO ISRAEL, IT SAYS, ARE TO BE THE PRIESTS OF THE WORLD.
WHICH HAS ONLY BEEN FULFILLED IN MESSIAH.
IT WILL BE WHEN HE COMES AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, WHEN ISRAEL COMES BACK TO MESSIAH,
THEN WE WILL AGAIN TO THE WORLD.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S THE BELIEVERS.
BUT, YEAH.
SO WE HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT,
AND THAT'S FOR ANYBODY,
YOU HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT FROM THE WORLD
IN ORDER TO BE A LIGHT UNTO THE WORLD.
REBECCA: AND SO ISRAEL REJECTED,
PAUL SAYS THEIR REJECTION OF MESSIAH,
ACTUALLY BROUGHT --
HELPED BRING SALVATION TO THE GENTILES.
SO NOW, WHAT IS ISRAEL'S PURPOSE NOW,
AND WHAT IS THEIR PROPHETIC FUTURE?
BECAUSE PAUL SAYS THAT EVENTUALLY
THEIR ACCEPTANCE OF YESHUA WILL MEAN
RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.
SO KIND OF UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH CAN NEVER BE COMPLETE
WITHOUT ISRAEL.
YOU KNOW, CAN NEVER BE FULFILLED.
ISRAEL CAN'T BE COMPLETE WITHOUT THE CHURCH EITHER.
IT'S ALL ONE.
THEY BELONG TO EACH OTHER,
THEY JUST DON'T KNOW IT.
REBECCA: THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE, TOO.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, YEAH.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE DAY,
WHEN I THINK OF LIKE -- LET'S GO TO,
YOU MENTIONED IT, RUTH AND NAOMI.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, HOW DID --
HOW DID RUTH GET BLESSED?
THROUGH NAOMI.
YOU KNOW, SO THE GENTILE WAS BLESSED
THROUGH THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
IF YOU'RE SAVED, IT WAS THROUGH THEM.
BUT AT THE END,
NAOMI IS BLESSED THROUGH RUTH.
IT GOES FULL CIRCLE.
SO IN THE END, THAT THE CHURCH AND THE GENTILES
IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THE BLESSING
AND REDEMPTION OF ISRAEL.
YOU KNOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW,
ISRAEL WILL LOOK AT THE CHURCH AND SAY,
MY DAUGHTER.
AND THE CHURCH WILL LOOK AT ISRAELL AND SAY,
MY MOTHER, YOU KNOW.
AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE,
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING --
AND RUTH'S BABY WAS COUNTED AS NAOMI'S BABY.
SO ALL THE FRUIT OF THE CHURCH
IS GONNA BE COUNTED ALSO FOR ISRAEL.
IT'S YOUR HARVEST.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE END,
THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOD IS IRONIC.
SO THEY'RE THE FIRST AND NOW THEY'RE THE LAST.
YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST SHALL BE LAST.
SO THEY WERE THE FIRST BELIEVERS.
AND IN THE BEGINNING THEY WERE THE MOST LIKELY.
IT'S JEWISH, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
IF THEY COULD LET IN GENTILES IN THE BEGINNING.
THEY HAD TO GET IN FROM GOD.
BUT NOW IT'S LIKE THE OPPOSITE,
CAN A JEWISH PERSON COME TO BELIEVE IN THE JEWISH MESSIAH?
SO GOD SAVES THEM FOR LAST.
YOU KNOW, GOD SAVES HIS FINAL ACT FOR LAST.
AND INTERESTING, HERE'S ANOTHER THING.
THIS IS GOING ALL OVER, I LIKE IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IN THE SACRED YEAR
DO THE JEWISH PEOPLE COME TO REPENTANCE IN GOD?
AT THE END OF THE SACRED YEAR.
WHICH IS THE SEVENTH MONTH,
WHICH IS ROSH HASHANAH,
FEAST OF YOM KIPPUR,
WHEN YOU GET RIGHT WITH GOD.
THAT'S NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
IT'S THE CLOSING OF THE SACRED YEAR.
SO WHEN WILL THE JEWISH PEOPLE COME?
AT THE END.
THEIR POINT IS AT THE END.
WHAT'S THE HOLIEST DAY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE?
NOT THE FIRST DAY,
I MEAN THAT'S GOOD,
BUT THE SABBATH, THE LAST DAY.
THEIR DAY IS THE LAST.
THEY'LL COME IN AT THE END.
NOW THERE ARE JEWISH PEOPLE COMING IN NOW,
THERE'S A REVIVAL.
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THAT.
REBECCA: ALMOST LIKE PREPARING THE WAY.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, A REMNANT.
BUT THE FINAL THING IS ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED,
THOSE WHO ARE LEFT.
SO IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL THING.
BECAUSE ONCE THEY COME, THAT'S IT.
ONCE THEY COME, HE COMES.
SO IF THEY CAME NOW,
WELL, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TIME
TO SAVE OTHER PEOPLE.
SO IT'S OKAY.
BUT SO THEIR DESTINY IS TO USHER IN THE KINGDOM.
YOU KNOW, THEY USHERED IN MESSIAH THE FIRST TIME
AS A LAMB, AS A BABY AND HUMBLY.
AND THEY WILL USHER HIM IN THE SECOND TIME
AS THE KING, AS THE LION OF JUDAH.
SO THEY'LL USHER IN THE KINGDOM.
THEY'LL USHER IN ALL THINGS.
ALL NATIONS.
THE WORLD SHALL BE FILLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD
AND THEY SHALL ALL COME UP TO JERUSALEM,
AND THE LION WILL LAY DOWN WITH THE CALF
AND THAT'S WHEN ISRAEL COMES BACK TO MESSIAH.
SEE, ISRAEL IS A PRIEST,
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PRIEST COMES TO THE ALTAR,
YOU KNOW, YOU GET SAVED.
WHEN THE PRIEST GOES TO THE ALTAR WITH WHAT?
SO WHEN THE JEWISH PEOPLE COME TO THE ALTAR
OF THE CROSS,
THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED.
REBECCA: WE SPOKE ABOUT ISRAEL.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMERICA.
AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH
BECAUSE WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN THROUGH
I THINK MULTIPLE SHAKINGS
IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
I MEAN, EVEN 2020 AND 2021
HAS BEEN A REALLY BIG SHAKING.
JONATHAN: GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TOGETHER.
REBECCA: AND WHAT I LIKED WHAT YOU
TALKED ABOUT EARLIER,
IS YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WILL RETURN
TO THE WAY THINGS WERE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS,
IS IN THE TIME OF ACTS,
THAT THINGS WERE VERY SECULAR, VERY PAGAN,
VERY IMMORAL,
AND CHRISTIANITY WAS VERY PERSECUTED.
BUT IN THAT, THE CHURCH ACTUALLY THRIVED.
AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE VERSES IS IN PHILIPPIANS
AND PAUL TALKS ABOUT HOW
WE WILL SHINE LIKE STARS IN THE LAST DAYS.
EVEN THOUGH THE NIGHT WILL BE DARK,
WE WILL SHINE LIKE STARS BECAUSE OF THAT
AMONGST A PERVERSE AND CROOKED GENERATION.
AND SO I BELIEVE WE'RE KIND OF COMING INTO THAT.
AND SO, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS,
DO YOU BELIEVE PERSECUTION IS COMING
FOR BELIEVERS IN AMERICA,
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN EASY,
AND IF SO, HOW DO WE PREPARE FOR THAT SPIRITUALLY?
RABBI: YEAH, I BELIEVE IT IS COMING.
WE ALREADY HAVE SIGNS OF IT.
WE ALREADY HAVE ASPECTS OF IT.
YOU KNOW, WHERE BELIEVERS REALLY CAN'T SAY THINGS,
THEY CAN'T TALK, AND THEY'RE REVILED BY THE CULTURE,
MOCKED, YOU KNOW.
AND THERE ARE LAWS RIGHT NOW ON THE TABLES
THAT IF PASSED BY THE CONGRESS
COULD BE DEADLY TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH,
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND ALL THAT.
SO, YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALL PART OF IT, TOO.
LIKE IN THE LAST DAYS OF ISRAEL,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY WERE PERSECUTING THE PROPHETS,
THEY WERE TRYING TO SILENCE EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S A SIGN OF JUDGMENT.
SO, YEAH, AND THE OTHER THING
SO PEOPLE WILL BE FULLY ON THAT,
IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING IS RETURNING
TO WHERE IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING.
THE END IS LIKE THE BEGINNING,
THE FIRST AND LAST.
THE END IS LIKE THE BEGINNING.
SO THE JEWISH PEOPLE IN THE BEGINNING,
YOU HAD ISRAEL IN THE WORLD.
YOU HAVEN'T HAD IT FOR 2,000 YEARS.
YOU DO AGAIN.
REBECCA: THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
RABBI CAHN: YOU HAD JERUSALEM IN JEWISH HANDS.
HAVEN'T HAD THAT FOR 2,000 YEARS.
YOU GOT IT AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAD JEWISH BELIEVERS THEN.
YOU HAVEN'T HAD THAT PRETTY MUCH FOR --
YOU HAVE THAT AGAIN.
YOU HAVE JEW AND GENTILE TOGETHER.
YOU REALLY HAVEN'T THAT.
EVERYTHING.
BUT THEN THE OTHER PART IS,
YOU DON'T OFTEN THINK ABOUT IT IN BAD TERMS,
SO IF THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE RETURNING
TO WHERE THEY WERE,
THE JEWISH BELIEVER IS COMING BACK,
THE JEWISH APOSTLE IS COMING BACK,
AND THE JEW AND GENTILE IN CHURCH,
THAT'S BACK TO ITS JEWISH ROOTS.
THAT HASN'T BEEN FOR 2,000 YEARS.
ALL OF IT.
BUT THEN THE WORLD, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE WORLD
GOING AWAY FROM --
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING BACK TO WHERE IT WAS,
WHICH WAS PAGAN,
WHICH WAS ANTI-CHRISTIAN,
WHICH WAS THE ROMAN EMPIRE.
SO YOU'VE GOT THAT,
BUT THAT MEANS THEN THE CHURCH
HAS TO GO BACK TO WHERE IT WAS,
WHICH IS THE BOOK OF ACTS.
BUT IT ALL GOES TOGETHER.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOOK OF ACTS,
YOU ALSO HAVE JEWISH BELIEVERS.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOOK OF ACTS,
YOU HAVE AN ANTI-CHRISTIAN CULTURE.
SEE, MOST OF US WERE RAISED TO SOME DEGREE,
YOU LESS SO THAN ME,
BECAUSE IT'S AT A LATER STAGE,
BUT WHERE THE CULTURE WAS, QUOTE, CHRISTIAN,
OR MORE CHRISTIAN.
AND IF YOU GO BACK MORE, IT'S MORE AND MORE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GREW UP,
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S SAYING THEY'RE CHRISTIAN
UNLESS YOU'RE JEWISH, YOU KNOW.
EVERYBODY WAS CHRISTIAN.
EVERYBODY -- AND THE THING IS THAT --
THE THING IS THAT --
THE PROBLEM IS WHEN EVERYTHING'S CHRISTIAN,
EVERYTHING IS GRAY
BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS.
SO NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE GRAYS ARE DISAPPEARING,
AND AS THE DARK GETS DARKER,
IT'S THROWING OFF THE LIGHT.
IT'S THROWING OFF CHRISTIANITY.
SO THAT MEANS LIGHT GETS PURER
BECAUSE IT'S THROWING,
IT'S GOT TO THROW OFF THE DARKNESS,
BECAUSE IT'S PUTTING THIS LINE.
SO THE VERY THINGS THAT WE DON'T LIKE,
THE VERY THINGS THAT SAY,
YOU KNOW, THAT COME AGAINST YOU AS A CHRISTIAN,
YOU KNOW, ARE GONNA MAKE YOU,
ARE GONNA MAKE US, TRULY LIKE THE BOOK OF ACTS.
BECAUSE THOSE WHO STAND,
THEY GET PURIFIED.
BECAUSE THE GRAYS DISAPPEAR IN THEIR LIFE.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IT.
SO THE VERY THING --
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WHO'S GONNA STAND FOR THE LORD NOW?
BACK THEN EVERYBODY SAID THEY WERE A CHRISTIAN.
LESS PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY'RE A CHRISTIAN.
THOSE WHO ARE -- INCREASINGLY, THOSE WHO SAY THEY ARE,
YOU'RE GONNA KNOW THEY ARE REALLY.
SO IT ACTUALLY --
IT ACTUALLY WORKS HAND IN HAND.
YOU GET THE --
THE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE GREAT OPPOSITION
IS WHEN YOU GET GREATNESS IN GOD, YOU KNOW.
AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY, BUT IT IS.
SO GOD'S GONNA BE TAKING --
YOU KNOW, IF THE DARK IS SAYING,
I'M GETTING PURIFIED,
I'M GETTING ALL THIS LIGHT OUT OF ME,
YOU KNOW, ALL THAT.
WELL, THEN THE LIGHT HAS TO DO THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE TO GET, WE HAVE TO PURIFY OURSELVES.
WE HAVE TO GET THAT STUFF THAT'S NOT,
AND WE'RE GONNA BECOME LIKE LIGHT, STARS IN THE NIGHT.
THAT'S THE PICTURE THE BIBLE GIVES.
ALSO IN DANIEL, WILL SHINE LIKE STARS IN THE NIGHT.
BUT THAT'S GOOD.
SO IT'S A DOUBLE THING.
SO WHAT WE DON'T LIKE IS ACTUALLY GOOD IN THAT SENSE.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND SO NOW IT'S KINDA -- IT'S BECOMING A TIME IN AMERICA
WHERE FOR THE FIRST TIME
PEOPLE ARE REALLY HAVING TO MAKE A CHOICE,
ARE THEY GOING TO STAND UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT?
AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT,
WE HAVE TO BECOME LIKE ELIJAH.
BECAUSE ELIJAH, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE STORY
OF JEZEBEL AND ALL OF THAT,
ISRAEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TIME WHEN
ISRAEL WAS KIND OF AT THE CUSP OF GOING
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND ELIJAH STOOD AGAINST SOMEONE VERY INTIMIDATING,
JEZEBEL, THE SPIRIT OF JEZEBEL,
AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROPHETS OF BAAL,
THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHO THEY WERE,
THE FALSE GOD THAT THEY WERE WORSHIPING AT THAT TIME,
ONE OF THEM AT LEAST.
AND HE STOOD FIRM, AND BECAUSE HE DID
GOD MOVED MIGHTILY
AND IT AFFECTED THE NATION OF ISRAEL.
AND SO THAT IS HOW --
THAT IS WHO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
HOW DO WE BECOME LIKE THAT?
RABBI CAHN: ONE IS WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
BEFORE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BATTLE,
BEFORE BEING PERSECUTED,
BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION,
YOU KNOW, I HAVE DECIDED TO FOLLOW JESUS,
NO TURNING BACK, NO TURNING BACK.
THE WORLD BEHIND ME AND THE CROSS BEFORE ME.
DON'T GO WITH ME.
WHAT HAPPENS IF NO ONE GOES WITH ME?
I'M WITH YOU, GOD.
SO FIRST, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
LORD, I AM WITH YOU.
YOU KNOW, ELIJAH'S NAME, ELIYYAHU OR ELIA,
MEANS THE LORD IS GOD.
YOU KNOW, MY GOD IS THE LORD.
HE'S MINE.
AND THAT'S THE END, HE'S THE ONE WHO SAID,
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THAT HAPPENED?
THEY ALL SAID THE LORD IS GOD.
WELL, HE WAS BORN FOR THAT MOMENT,
THAT SORT OF THING.
SO WE HAVE TO SAY, LISTEN,
THE LORD IS TRULY GOD IN MY LIFE.
I DON'T CARE, LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY.
I'M GONNA STAND FOR YOU, LORD,
AS YOU STOOD FOR ME, NO MATTER WHAT.
SO THAT ONE THING IS TO GET --
AND THE SECOND THING IS TO GET MORE PLUGGED INTO GOD.
BECAUSE THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO GOD --
YOU WANT TO STAND,
YOU'RE GONNA NEED THE SPIRIT,
YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO BE PLUGGED IN.
THE CLOSER YOU GET TO GOD,
THE MORE PLUGGED IN, THE MORE STRONG
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BE WITH THE WORLD.
AND ALSO, WHATEVER IS IN YOUR LIFE
THAT'S NOT OF GOD, IT'S OF THE WORLD,
GET AWAY, START SEPARATING FROM IT NOW.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING YOU'RE WATCHING, YOU'RE SEEING,
THAT'S NOT RIGHT, GET AWAY FROM IT NOW.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT,
YOU'VE GOT TO BE DIFFERENT IF YOU'RE GONNA
MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
SO ELIJAH WAS.
ELIJAH WAS.
AND ELIJAH WAS PLUGGED IN.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A FAMINE,
BUT HE HAD HIS OWN SOURCE WITH GOD,
SO HE WAS PLUGGED IN.
SO ELIJAH WAS RADICAL.
SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE NOW
AND PUT YOURSELF IN THAT SITUATION,
WHAT WILL I DO IF THEY SAY,
IF YOU SAY THIS, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE YOUR JOB,
YOU'RE GONNA BE THIS?
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
ARE YOU GONNA COMPROMISE,
OR ARE YOU GONNA TRUST THE LORD?
SO DECIDE THAT NOW
AND YOU CAN BE LIKE ELIJAH.
AND BY THE WAY, ELIJAH WAS A HUMAN BEING.
THE BIBLE SAYS HE WAS JUST LIKE US.
HE HAD HIS MOMENTS.
WE KNOW HE HAD HIS MOMENTS,
BUT HE ALSO ROSE TO BECOME ELIJAH.
AND YOU CAN RISE.
EVERY ONE OF YOU HAS A GREAT CALLING
AND THIS IS A TIME FOR GREATNESS.
IT SAYS THE EYES OF THE LORD ARE SEARCHING
THE ENTIRE EARTH LOOKING FOR THE ONE
WHOSE HEART IS HIS.
HE'LL SHOW HIMSELF MIGHTY FOR THAT ONE.
SO YOU DETERMINE YOU BE THAT ONE.
JONATHAN: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS,
IT'S GOING TO BE RELEASED TO EVERYONE,
WE'RE IN THE YEAR OF 5782,
AND WE KNOW THE 80S IS THE LETTER PEY,
BECAUSE EVERY NUMBER HAS A HEBREW LETTER EQUIVALENT
WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE
GOD'S HEAVENLY LANGUAGE,
WE CAN LOOK AND STUDY OUT THE SYMBOLICS THERE
AND LEARN FROM THAT AND GAIN FROM THAT.
AND WHAT'S NEAT ABOUT THIS IS
I'VE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE TEACH ON THIS,
IS 80 BEING PE, AND 2 BEING THE LETTERBET,
THERE'S ACTUALLY A BET WITHIN THE LETTER PE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO HEBREW LETTERS.
AND WHAT'S NEAT IS THE SAME THING,
JUST TO TIE IN WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
THE LIGHTNESS IS BECOMING LIGHTER,
THE DARKNESS IS BECOMING DARKER.
SO WE'RE SEEING THAT THOSE THAT IT'S
BEING HIGHLIGHTED WITHIN WHAT IS REAL.
WHAT'S ALSO NEAT, TOO, IS PE BEING MOUTH, RIGHT,
THE WORD PE MEANS MOUTH,
WE'RE IN THE DECADE OF THE MOUTH.
NOW IS THE TIME WHERE WE HAVE TO STAND AND
SPEAK THE TRUTH, NOT SIT BACK AND BE SILENT
OR BE DORMANT OR BE LETHARGIC.
IT'S NOW MORE THAN EVER WE HAVE TO STAND UP
AND GET ON THE CHANNELS THAT WE CAN,
WHETHER IT'S YOUTUBE OR WHATEVER IT IS,
AND SPEAK THE TRUTH.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, INTERESTING YOU SAID THE PE,
BECAUSE THIS IS THE SAME DECADE
WHEN MORE MOUTHS HAVE BEEN COVERED UP BY MASKS.
AND WHEN THE ENEMY IS TRYING TO COVER UP
THE MOUTH OF THE CHURCH,
YOU KNOW, OF PEOPLE, CONSERVATIVES,
CANCELING THEM OUT, WE HAVE TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T SPEAK,
THEN IT WINS.
IF EVERYBODY IS AFRAID,
YOU'RE GIVING THE VICTORY,
YOU'RE GIVING IT UP WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
GOD WILL HONOR YOU.
GOD WILL HONOR THE ONES WHO STAND.
REBECCA: I WAS ON ANOTHER SHOW WITH YOU
AND YOU SAID SOMETHING REALLY PROFOUND.
YOU SAID EVERYONE'S AFRAID OF BEING CANCELED
SO THEY WON'T SAY ANYTHING,
BUT THAT IN ITSELF CANCELS THEM.
RABBI CAHN: AND YOU'RE CANCELING YOURSELF, YES.
JONATHAN: I'M MORE AFRAID OF BEING CANCELED BY GOD,
SO I'M JUST GONNA KEEP SPEAKING.
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY FEAR LIES
IS REVERENCE TO THE LORD,
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE FEAR THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
THE ONLY FEAR WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE
IS FEAR OF THE LORD.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.
YOU KNOW, THE SEEING GOD AND THAT'S THE ANTIDOTE
TO THE WORLD.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, GOD DOESN'T WANT US TO BE
CARING ABOUT PEOPLE REJECTING US
OR ACCEPTING US.
WE GOT TO GET FREE, GET OVER THAT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT PEOPLE THINK.
YOU WANT TO GET SO MUCH INTO WHAT GOD THINKS
THAT YOU'RE IMMUNE.
THAT'S THE ANTIDOTE.
GOD IS THE ANTIDOTE TO ALL THOSE THINGS,
ALL THOSE FEARS, ALL THOSE WORRIES.
SO THAT, HEY GOD, I JUST WANT TO PLEASE YOU.
REBECCA: YEAH. AND YOU GET THAT,
I FEEL LIKE THE CLOSER YOU GET TO GOD,
THE LESS YOU CARE ABOUT THE OTHER VOICES
AND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
BUT IF YOU'RE SO IMMERSED IN THE WORLD,
YOU'RE MORE IN TUNE WITH THE WORLD
THAN YOU ARE WITH GOD.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
AND THAT'S PART OF GETTING PLUGGED IN.
WE HAVE REPLENISH OURSELVES, REFRESH,
LORD, I JUST WANT THAT.
AND THE MORE YOU ARE --
AND LISTEN, THE OTHER THING IS,
IT GOES WITH IT THAT WE'RE LIVING IN THESE DAYS,
AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OKAY, HOW DO I GET BY,
WHAT SHOULD I DO?
BUT IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THAT.
GOD PUT US HERE TO BE A BLESSING TO THE WORLD.
WE'RE HERE ON MISSION.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO GET BY.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO SURVIVE.
WE'RE HERE TO BLESS THE WORLD.
WE'RE HERE TO MINISTER TO THE WORLD.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT IMMEDIATELY CHANGES
THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF IT.
WHETHER THEY ACCEPT ME OR NOT ACCEPT ME,
LISTEN, I'M TRYING TO HELP THEM
GET ACCEPTED INTO THE KINGDOM.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHO WE ARE,
AND IT'S EXCITING.
AND IF GOD DIDN'T WANT US NOW
WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN THE MIDDLE AGES.
HE WANTED US NOW
SO HE'S GOING TO ANOINT US FOR NOW,
HE'S APPOINTED US,
HE'S GOING TO EMPOWER US.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS STAND.
REBECCA: THAT'S SUCH A GOOD WORD.
I REMEMBER JOHN PAUL JACKSON WHO WAS A MENTOR TO US,
HE SAID, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING TIMES
YOU COULD BE LIVING IN.
SO ACTUALLY COUNT IT AN HONOR
THAT GOD HAS DECIDED,
BECAUSE HE DECIDED WHAT TIME AND AGE
WE WOULD LIVE IN.
AND SO I THINK SO MANY TIMES
PEOPLE WILL COME AT WHAT'S GOING ON,
BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON,
YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THE END.
WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE END OF THE END EXACTLY SHALL BE,
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S BEEN SIGNS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ISRAEL HAS BEEN KIND OF A SUPER SIGN,
EVERYTHING THAT'S TRANSPIRED THERE.
BUT WE DON'T NEED TO BE AFRAID.
WE GET TO STAND BOLDLY AND BE EXCITED
BECAUSE THIS IS WHEN GOD IS REALLY MOVING.
IN A WAY I BELIEVE THAT --
AND EVERYONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO
BELIEVES THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT REVIVAL.
AND WE HAVE A LOT THAT WE CAN EITHER CONTRIBUTE
OR WE CAN RUN AWAY IN FEAR.
BUT I THINK THE SOONER WE CAN RECOGNIZE
THAT THIS WORLD ISN'T OUR HOME,
AND THAT THIS ISN'T TIME TO GET COMFORTABLE
OR TO GET SETTLED,
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST TEMPTATIONS,
LIVING IN AMERICA,
BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO BE COMFORTABLE HERE.
AND NOW THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M STARTING TO SEE,
FEEL REAL PUSHBACK AS A BELIEVER.
IT'S LIKE, OH, WOW, THIS IS A REMINDER,
THIS WORLD ISN'T OUR HOME.
AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE LOT'S WIFE
AND LOOK BACK AT SODOM AND GOMORRAH
AND LIKE WISH TO BE THERE.
I FINALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS THE SIN.
IT WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS HER HOME TO HER
AND SHE WAS GOING TO MISS IT,
WHEN GOD WAS SAYING MOVE FORWARD,
DON'T LOOK BACK. THIS ISN'T YOUR HOME.
AND SO, YEAH.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, THIS --
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MISSIONARIES,
OH, I'M NOT A MISSIONARY.
YEAH, IF YOU'RE ON EARTH, YOU'RE A MISSIONARY.
THIS IS OUR MISSION FIELD.
THIS IS NOT OUR HOME.
IT'S OUR MISSION FIELD.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET PAST A LOT OF STUFF BY THAT.
IT WILL CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMIC.
I'M NOT HERE TO GET,
I'M HERE TO BE A LIGHT.
I'M HERE TO SHINE.
I DON'T NEED FROM THE WORLD.
THIS IS THE IDEAL.
I'M SO FILLED WITH GOD,
I'M HERE TO BLESS AND DO MY THING.
SO I'M NOT LIVING IN FEAR ANYMORE,
YOU KNOW, WE SEE THESE BIBLE HEROES AND WE SAY,
OH, THIS IS SO GREAT.
EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD ISSUES LIKE THIS,
AND WE DON'T WANT THE ISSUES,
BUT THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE HEROES.
THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE GREATNESS, YOU KNOW.
AND SO MANY BELIEVERS SAY,
OH, I WISH I LIVED IN BIBLICAL, BIBLE TIMES.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE HERE NOW.
LIVE IT.
LIVE IT. RISE TO IT.
AND THIS IS WHEN IT REALLY COUNTS, YOU KNOW.
IT'S ONE THING, YOU HAVE A FRIEND,
A FAIR-WEATHER FRIEND,
BUT THE FRIEND WHO STICKS WITH YOU
WHEN NOBODY ELSE WILL,
WELL, THAT'S HOW IT IS WITH YOU AND GOD.
NOW IT MEANS EVERYTHING TO GOD.
WHEN YOU STAND FOR HIM, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS,
THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT.
REBECCA: I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA
INCLUDE THIS IN THE SHOW,
BUT I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ANOTHER BOOK CALLEDTHE PARADIGM,
AND YOU REALLY BREAK DOWN
THAT WHOLE THING WITH THE SIMILARITIES
BETWEEN TRUMP AND JEHU
AND JEZEBEL AND HILLARY AND ALL THAT
AND IT'S AN INCREDIBLE BOOK
AND SUCH AN AMAZING MESSAGE.
YOU KNOW, WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN 2020,
WE KNOW TRUMP DIDN'T WIN THE ELECTION.
I KNOW A LOT OF BELIEVERS THOUGHT HE WOULD
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY HE DID AND IT WAS STOLEN.
MY QUESTION REALLY ISN'T ABOUT ALL THAT.
DO YOU THINK THAT MAYBE AN AREA
WHERE MAYBE CHRISTIANS WERE KIND OF OFF,
WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE TRUMP WAS KIND OF LIKE
ALMOST A SAVIOR THAT WAS GOING TO FIX
ALL OF THE PROBLEMS,
AND THAT IF HE HAD GOTTEN INTO OFFICE,
EVERYTHING WAS GONNA BE OKAY
AND DO YOU THINK WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN
ALMOST COMPLACENT?
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, YES. YEAH.
I'M NOT SAYING EVERYONE,
BUT THAT WAS CERTAINLY THERE
AND THAT'S HUMAN NATURE.
BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO'S A STRONG MAN,
HEY, HE'S GONNA BE OUR DEFENSE
AND HE'S IN THERE, HE'S GONNA DO WHAT WE WANT.
SO IT'S TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP.
WELL, YOU KNOW, NO MAN IS THE ANSWER.
WE THANK GOD FOR THE GOOD THAT DONALD TRUMP DID,
AS MUCH AS ON THE ISSUES OF LIFE
AND ISRAEL AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND ALL THAT.
IT WASN'T PERFECT.
JEHU WASN'T PERFECT EITHER.
JEHU WAS USED OF GOD, THOUGH.
BUT HE WAS NOT --
YOU KNOW, HE WAS GOOD ON BAAL,
BUT HE WASN'T GOOD ON THE GOLDEN CALF.
YOU KNOW, SO THERE ARE CERTAIN ISSUES
WITH TRUMP THAT WEREN'T,
YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT OUR MESSIAH.
HE'S A MAN.
AND THE THING IS,
SO LISTEN, ANYONE WHO'S GONNA HELP GOD'S PURPOSES,
GREAT, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
BUT IT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
THE ANSWER IS ONLY JESUS AND GOD.
WE CAN NEVER FORGET THAT.
AND IF WE DO, GOD WILL REMIND US VERY QUICKLY.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WITH TRUMP
IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE DID THOSE THINGS
AND HE KEPT CERTAIN THINGS
FROM GOING FORWARD OR SLOWING DOWN.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE REPUBLICANS
ARE TRYING TO DO NOW, SLOW DOWN THE DEMOCRATS.
BUT THE THING IS THAT -- THE THING IS, THOUGH,
IN THAT TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE REVIVAL.
AND IN THAT TIME,
THE CULTURE DIDN'T GET BETTER, IT GOT WORSE.
I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD LEGAL THINGS,
BUT IT GOT MUCH WORSE.
I MEAN, IN THAT TIME,
WOKEISM TRIUMPHED IN AMERICA.
IN THAT TIME, CHILDREN'S CARTOONING
BECAME INDOCTRINATION INTO LGBT.
IT WENT TO THINGS WE NEVER --
IT JUST KEPT GOING.
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY REVIVAL,
IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE HEART,
YOU'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE NATION.
YOU CAN CHANGE LAWS,
IT WILL BE LIKE A DAM AGAINST THE WATER,
BUT EVENTUALLY THAT WATER IS GOING TO PUSH IT AWAY.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN THAT TERM ENDED,
IT WAS LIKE A FLOOD OF LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE GOING NOW.
SO, YES, I MEAN WE SHOULD --
YOU KNOW, POLITICS CAN BE A HELP
AND THEY CAN BE A WINDOW FOR THE ANSWER,
BUT IT'S NOT THE ANSWER.
AND SO WE HAVE THE WINDOW,
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE REVIVAL.
REVIVAL IS WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA SAVE US.
SO, YEAH, SO AGAIN WE CAN SUPPORT ANYONE
WHO'S GONNA HELP OR BETTER HELP THE PURPOSES OF GOD,
BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND,
WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER WE'RE NOT HOME,
THERE'S ONLY ONE ANSWER, IT'S NOT MAN, YOU KNOW.
AND THE ULTIMATE CHANGE HAS TO BE THE HEART.
REBECCA: SO DO YOU THINK WITH EVERYTHING
THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW,
BECAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE COULD FEEL DISCOURAGED
FOR THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING,
DO YOU THINK NOW BECAUSE THINGS ARE GETTING
MORE DIFFICULT,
ACTUALLY REVIVAL COULD BE MORE
LIKE A POSSIBILITY NOW MORE THAN EVER
BECAUSE IT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING
THAT THEY TURN TO GOD?
RABBI CAHN: IT COULD BE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINGS HAVE TO GET WORSE
BEFORE THEY GET BETTER SOMETIMES.
SOMETIMES MANY PEOPLE COME TO THE LORD
BECAUSE THINGS GOT SO BAD, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS,
THE MORAL EVIL, DARKNESS PART,
THAT DOESN'T HELP.
BUT SITUATIONS OF SHAKING
AND, YOU KNOW, ECONOMY AND DIVISION,
I MEAN, AMERICA IS DIVIDED
MORE THAN EVER IN MY LIFETIME.
AND WE'RE ALMOST FEELING LIKE
THE CENTER IS NOT HOLDING.
IT'S LIKE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP,
IT WAS LIKE IT'S A VERY STRONG AMERICA.
THEY HAD DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT AMERICA.
BUT IT'S NOT THERE NOW.
AND SO WILL IT DIVIDE, OR WILL THIS WOKEISM TAKE OVER,
YOU KNOW, BUT, LISTEN, EITHER WAY
IT'S NOT GONNA BE BORING.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE DULL.
AND WE'VE GOT A JOB TO DO.
AND WE WERE BORN FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS, YOU KNOW.
REBECCA: SO NOW IT'S TIME FOR
THE CHURCH TO STAND UP.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS BUT WE KNOW...
RABBI CAHN: WHO HOLDS THE FUTURE.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO GOOD.
OKAY. WELL, RABBI JONATHAN CAHN --
JONATHAN: THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
REBECCA: YES, SERIOUSLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
RABBI CAHN: MY HONOR, MY JOY.
YOU'RE A GREAT HOST, BY THE WAY.
REBECCA: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
RABBI CAHN: I'M NOT THROWING THAT OUT,
IT WAS REALLY GOOD.
JONATHAN: SHE'S REALLY GOOD.
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WHERE CAN THEY GO? HOW CAN THEY FIND YOU?
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