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REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HEY, GUYS.
WELCOME TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF ON AIR WITH REBECCA.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A REALLY SPECIAL GUEST.
HE'S BEEN SPEAKING THROUGH HIS BOOKS PROPHETICALLY
FOR OVER A DECADE, AND HE'S FULL OF WISDOM AND
REVELATION AND KNOWLEDGE, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE
COVERING SO MANY DIFFERENT TOPICS.
SO PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME TO THE SHOW RABBI JONATHAN CAHN.
RABBI JOHNATHAN CAHN: GREAT TO BE HERE.
GREAT TO BE HERE IN THIS -- I LOVE THIS SET.
I LOVE THE WHOLE THING.
SO GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
REBECCA: YES, SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE AND ALSO
SO HAPPY TO HAVE MY HUSBAND HERE.
JONATHAN WEISS: YEAH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK.
RABBI JONATHAN GOT TO SAY A BLESSING OVER OUR
MARRIAGE AT OUR WEDDING, SO THAT'S REALLY COOL.
REBECCA: YES.
AND HE'S THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE
CONNECTION WITH SHAVUOT.
JONATHAN: MM-HM.
WE WERE MARRIED ON SHAVUOT.
REBECCA: YES.
WHICH IS SUCH A COOL, THAT'S A WHOLE --
RABBI CAHN: I LOVE THE COVENANT,
THE MARRIAGE OF GOD AND HIS PEOPLE.
REBECCA: AND RUTH.
RABBI CAHN: AND RUTH AND BOAZ, YEAH, YEAH.
WONDERFUL.
REBECCA: THAT'S SO AMAZING. OKAY.
SO YOU'RE NEW TO OUR AUDIENCE.
SO BEFORE WE GET IN, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT THINGS WE WANT TO COVER WITH YOU,
BUT SO PEOPLE CAN GET A FEEL OF WHO YOU ARE,
GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR TESTIMONY.
RABBI CAHN: SURE.
I'M JEWISH.
[ CHUCKLES ]
AND I WAS RAISED IN A JEWISH HOME.
MY FATHER ESCAPED HITLER, GREW UP IN GERMANY, ESCAPED HITLER.
I GOT -- MY MOTHER'S FAMILY ESCAPED THE CZAR,
SO THEY BOTH -- AND THEY MET WHILE THEY WERE BOTH
GOING FOR THEIR PH.D.S AS SCIENTISTS THERE IN
CHEMISTRY, SO THEY BOTH -- THAT'S HOW THEY GOT MARRIED.
THEY HAD THREE KIDS.
I WAS THE -- TWO GIRLS AND ONE BOY.
AND SO I WAS RAISED IN THE SYNAGOGUE,
WENT TO HEBREW SCHOOL.
BUT WHEN I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD,
I STARTED QUESTIONING IT ALL BECAUSE I HEARD ABOUT
THE GOD OF THE BIBLE WHO SPOKE AND MOVED AND ALL
THAT, BUT THEN IN THE SYNAGOGUE,
I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
IT WAS ALL LIKE LITURGY, I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
SO I DECIDED, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S NO GOD.
SO I BECAME AN ATHEIST AT EIGHT.
AND THEN -- SO THAT WAS FOR A WHILE.
AND THEN WHEN I WAS ABOUT -- THEN I STARTED SAYING,
WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S GOT TO BE A REASON,
THERE'S GOT TO BE A REASON WHY WE EXIST.
SO I STARTED GETTING BOOKS ON EVERYTHING,
STARTED SEEKING BOOKS ON SCIENCE, RELIGION, UFO'S,
NOSTRADAMUS, ALL THESE THINGS.
AND WHEN I WAS ABOUT 13, 12, 13,
AND ONE DAY I PICKED UP A BOOK THAT I THOUGHT WAS A
UFO BOOK, BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IT.
THAT YEAR THEY MADE IT LOOK LIKE THE UFO BOOKS.
IT WASTHE LATE GREAT PLANET EARTHBY HAL LINDSEY.
THIS IS A BOOK -- IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST SELLERS --
ABOUT PROPHECY -- ABOUT BIBLICAL PROPHECY COMING
TRUE NOW STARTING WITH ISRAEL COMING BACK.
I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT -- I'D NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE BIBLE ACTUALLY HAS THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING TRUE NOW.
SO THAT WAS EXCITING.
I WAS LIKE, WOW. SO I'M TELLING MY FRIENDS ABOUT IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE LORD, BUT I'M WINNING THEM TO
THE LORD BECAUSE I'M TELLING THEM ABOUT IT,
I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.
BUT I'M STILL, GOD IS -- OKAY, IT'S NOSTRADAMUS,
THE BIBLE, NOW IT'S JUST THE BIBLE, THE BIBLE NOW,
IT'S NOT JUST THE BIBLE, IT'S THIS ONE, YESHUA, JESUS.
I LOOKED AT THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES AND I SAW IT
SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE IN BETHLEHEM.
I SAID, THAT'S CATHOLIC, HOW DID THAT GET INTO THE HEBREW BIBLE?
AND SO I'M BECOMING -- I'M BELIEVING MORE AND MORE.
I'M NOT SAVING, I'M BELIEVING IN MY MIND.
AND THEN ONE DAY I REALIZE I'M TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT
THE LORD, BUT WHERE AMIWITH THE LORD?
I'M TELLING PEOPLE HE'S COMING,
WHERE AMIGOING TO BE WHEN HE COMES?
SO I REALIZED IT WASN'T RIGHT.
SO I REALIZED I HAD TO GIVE MY LIFE TO THE LORD.
BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE IT.
SO I MADE A DEAL WITH GOD.
I THOUGHT IF I GIVE MY LIFE TO THE LORD,
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO JOIN A MONASTERY AND THAT'S THE
END OF MY LIFE. SO I MADE A DEAL WITH GOD, I SAID,
IF YOU GIVE ME A LONG LIFE,
I WILL ACCEPT YOU WHEN I'M ON MY DEATH BED.
SO THAT WAS MY DEAL.
AND SO RIGHT AFTER MAKING THAT DEAL,
I WAS ALMOST KILLED TWICE.
AND THE FIRST TIME WAS A CAR ACCIDENT,
IT WAS A MIRACLE THAT I WASN'T KILLED.
AND SOON AFTER THAT, I'M IN A FORD PINTO,
THIS CAR THAT USED TO BLOW UP IF YOU TOUCH THEM THE
WRONG WAY, AND THEY WOULD BLOW UP.
AND SO I'M DRIVING ACROSS TO A COLLEGE AT NIGHT
ACROSS A TRAIN TRACK, AND IT HAD JUST BEEN SNOWING.
THERE'S A DANGEROUS TRACK AND THERE'S NO PROTECTION.
PEOPLE HAD BEEN KILLED THERE AND IT WAS AT AN
ANGLE, YOU DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHEN YOU WERE ON THE TRACK.
AND I'M GOING AND THE CARS ARE CROSSING, I'M SAYING,
THE LIGHTS ARE GOING ON, DID THE TRAIN LEAVE OR IS IT BROKEN?
SO I SAID, LET ME JUST CHECK.
I LOOK AND I SEE A LIGHT, AND IT'S THE TRAIN.
AND THE TRAIN, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS ONE OF
THE TRAIN'S, IT WAS COMING HEAD-ON.
I WAS RIGHT ON THE TRACK AND I DIDN'T REALIZE IT
BECAUSE OF ALL THE ANGLES ON IT.
AND I WAIT AND I SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT,
MAYBE I'M TOO CLOSE, LET ME TRY TO BACK UP.
SO I'M ABOUT TO BACK UP BUT I LOOK AND I SEE
HEADLIGHTS IN THE BACK OF ME.
AND SO THE TRAIN'S COMING, THERE'S HEADLIGHTS IN BACK
OF ME, I BACKED UP ABOUT A FOOT AND I THINK,
BUT I THOUGHT I WAS BEING EXTRA SAFE,
I THOUGHT I WAS OKAY.
I WAS STILL IN THE PATH OF THE TRAIN.
SO THE TRAIN CAME, PLOWED INTO THE CAR,
THE CAR WENT UP LIKE ALUMINUM FOIL.
THE ONLY THING I COULD DO AT THAT MOMENT WAS CALL OUT TO GOD.
I CALLED OUT TO GOD.
THE CAR WAS DESTROYED, AND I DIDN'T GET A SCRATCH.
SO I SAID, LORD, OKAY, THAT WAS CLOSE.
I SAID, CAN WE RENEGOTIATE?
AND SO I SAID, HERE'S A NEW DEAL.
I SAID, I'LL ACCEPT YOU WHEN I TURN 20.
JUST DON'T KILL ME UNTIL THEN.
AND SO -- AND IT WAS ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AWAY.
SO I SAID, SO ON MY 20TH BIRTHDAY,
IT WAS LIKE A MAN WHOSE CONTRACT HAD RAN OUT,
IT WAS ON MY 20TH BIRTHDAY, I SAID, OKAY,
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET SAVED.
I STARTED LISTENING TO CHRISTIAN TELEVISION,
CHRISTIAN RADIO, I WAS READING ALREADY THE BIBLE
AND PROPHECY, AND I FOUND A MOUNTAIN.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER FROM HEBREW SCHOOL,
GOD MET PEOPLE ON MOUNTAINS, MOSES.
SO I FOUND A MOUNTAIN, I WENT TO THE TOP OF IT AT
NIGHT, I KNEELED DOWN ON A ROCK,
AND I GAVE MY LIFE TO THE LORD.
REBECCA: WOW.
RABBI CAHN: AND THAT'S HOW I CAME TO THE LORD.
IT WAS LIKE I'M THE LAST -- THE LEAST LIKELY PERSON
KICKING AND SCREAMING.
NOBODY FROM HIGH SCHOOL WOULD BELIEVE ME,
WOULD BELIEVE THAT I CAME TO THE LORD.
BUT THAT'S HOW I CAME.
AND I KNEW, IT SAYS, JEWS NEED SIGNS.
I NEEDED A TRAIN TO COME.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, YEARS LATER,
I'M READING THE BIBLE.
AND I'M DESCENDED FROM THE PRIESTLY AARON,
THAT HOUSE, THE PRIESTS.
AND I'M LOOKING AT THE BIBLE AND IT SAYS THAT
FROM THE TIME OF THE TEMPLE, DAVID, IT SAYS,
THE SONS OF AARON WOULD COME TO SERVE THE LORD,
COME INTO MINISTRY, COMING TO SERVE THE LORD WHEN
THEY TURN 20.
IT WAS MY 20TH BIRTHDAY THAT I CAME TO THE LORD.
I HAD NO IDEA.
REBECCA: THAT'S AMAZING.
SO YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE TO GOD AT 20.
AT WHAT POINT DOES THE FIRST HARBINGER HAPPEN AND
HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
RABBI CAHN: [ LAUGHING ]
WELL, THERE'S A LITTLE JUMP THERE,
BECAUSE I'M 20 YEARS OLD.
AND THEN THE LORD LED ME INTO MINISTRY.
I WAS IN COLLEGE AND I WAS 20.
AT 28, I CAME INTO -- I WAS ACTUALLY ASKED TO
LEAD A MINISTRY.
BUT HE CALLED ME.
I KNEW I WAS GOING INTO A FULL-TIME MINISTRY,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THAT.
I WAS HELPING OUT AT THAT SAME CONGREGATION,
THEY SAID THE GUY LEFT.
IF YOU DON'T SAY YES, WE CLOSE IT DOWN, SO I SAID, ALL RIGHT.
BUT I WAS WAITING FOR THIS.
I SAID, WELL, THIS MIGHT BE IT.
SO I STARTED LEADING A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, IT STARTED GROWING.
SO I WAS MINISTERING, THAT WAS 19-- WHEN I GOT SAVED,
IT WAS 1980.
AND THIS WAS, NO, 1979.
THIS WAS 19-- NOW I CAME INTO THE MINISTRY LIKE 1988.
SO THE -- NOW, I ALWAYS KNEW I WAS SUPPOSED TO
WRITE BOOKS, BUT I NEVER DID,
I JUST NEVER HAD TIME IN THE MINISTRY.
SO I HAD THINGS IN MY HEAD I WOULD START BUT I'D
NEVER -- BUT THEN ONE -- THEN WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED,
WE WERE RIGHT OUTSIDE NEW YORK CITY,
AND THE WOMAN WHO I WAS SEEING WHO BECAME MY WIFE,
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE AT THE BUILDING AT THAT TIME.
AND AT THE LAST MINUTE, HER PLANS WERE CHANGED.
AND WE HAD -- AT 9 O' CLOCK,
SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
AND WE HAD OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR CONGREGATION WHO WERE
SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, PLANS WERE CHANGED.
WE HAD SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE BUILDING, THEY GOT OUT.
SO IT WAS AFFECTING, IT WAS ALL OVER WHERE WE ARE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I KNEW WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED,
I SAID, THERE'S SOMETHING HERE,
THERE'S SOMETHING VERY BIG HERE.
AND I STARTED GETTING THINGS,
I STARTED SHARING THINGS THAT I WAS GETTING ABOUT IT.
BUT THEN IT WAS LATER WHEN I WAS STANDING AT GROUND ZERO
AND I'M LOOKING AND I SEE A TREE THAT WAS STRUCK DOWN.
AND SOMETHING SAYS THERE'S SOMETHING THERE,
YOU HAVE TO SEEK THIS OUT, THERE'S A MYSTERY,
YOU'VE GOT TO -- SO I STARTED DOING IT,
AND IT ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAME THE FIRST PUZZLE PIECE,
THAT TREE, OF THIS MYSTERY KEPT GETTING
BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER.
SO EVERYTHING --
REBECCA: IT'S LIKE UNFOLDING. RABBI CAHN: YEAH, ALL THESE SIGNS,
ALL THESE -- THERE'S NINE HARBINGERS,
ALL OF THEM WERE THERE OR LATER LIKE, WOW,
IT CAN'T GET ANY BETTER.
SO I STARTED -- SO I DID A MESSAGE ON IT ABOUT
ISRAEL, THE CONGREGATION I LEAD,
AND EVERYBODY'S LIKE, THIS HAS GOT TO GO FORTH TO EVERYONE.
BUT I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, LIKE MOST THINGS.
SO ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER, I SAID, OKAY,
IT WAS LIKE THE LORD SAYING, THIS IS THE BOOK.
YOU'VE GOT TO WRITE THE HARBINGER.
AND SO THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED,
THAT'S HOW IT BEGAN.
AND THEN WHEN I WROTE IT, I WROTE IT NON-FICTION.
AND WHEN I FINISHED, IT WAS LIKE THE LORD SAID,
OKAY, RE-WRITE THE WHOLE THING,
DO IT AS A -- PUT A NARRATIVE, A STORY IN IT,
BECAUSE IT'LL REACH MORE PEOPLE.
IT WAS GOD USES THAT, GOD USES -- GOD USES PARABLES.
SO I REWROTE THE WHOLE BOOK.
BUT BEFORE I EVEN WROTE THAT, WHEN I GOT THAT,
IN THOSE TWO HOURS, THE WHOLE STORY CAME --
EVERYTHING CAME TO ME, THE WHOLE STORY.
SO THEN WHEN I STARTED WRITING IT LIKETHE HARBINGER,
WHICH IS A PROPHET SPEAKING TO HIM
AND THIS WHOLE THING, IT FLOWED, IT WROTE ITSELF.
EVERY TIME I SAT DOWN, JUST WROTE ITSELF.
EVERY TIME, IT WAS LIKE PAGES AND PAGES.
SO IT REALLY WROTE ITSELF.
SO THAT'S HOW THAT -- SO THEN I FINISHED IT, OKAY,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PUBLISH ANYTHING, I DON'T KNOW.
AND SHOULD I SAY THIS IS A SUPERNATURAL STORY WITH YOU?
REBECCA: YEAH, SURE.
RABBI CAHN: OKAY.
SO I LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OTHER THINGS.
[ CHUCKLES ]
SO I HAD TO NOW PUBLISH IT,
BUT I DIDN'T HAVE A PUBLISHER.
AND SO PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME, WELL,
YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF,
YOU'VE GOT TO BRAND YOURSELF,
YOU'VE GOT TO GET AN AGENT OR SOMETHING.
I'M NOT BRANDING MYSELF, I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING.
BUT THAT WEEK WHEN I FINISHED IT,
I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO DALLAS.
SO ON MY WAY TO DALLAS, I STOPPED AT,
I'M SPEAKING OF PROMISE KEEPERS,
ON MY WAY TO DALLAS, IT STOPPED AT CHARLOTTE AIRPORT.
AND SO AT CHARLOTTE AIRPORT,
I BOWED MY HEAD AND I SAID, LORD,
THE HARBINGER IS YOUR MESSAGE,
YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IT, YOU DON'T NEED AN AGENT,
YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW HOW TO GET THAT STEP.
SO I'M GIVING IT TO YOU.
I OPEN MY EYES, THERE WAS A MAN SITTING TO MY LEFT.
HE TURNS TO ME AND HE SAYS,
SO WHAT'S THE GOOD WORD?
I SAID, WELL, GOD LOVES YOU.
HE SAYS, I KNOW THAT, BUT WHAT'S THE GOOD WORD?
I'M THINKING, SO I'M WITNESSING TO THE GUY AND
HE'S WITNESSING TO ME.
WE'RE BOTH TRYING TO SAVE THE OTHER PERSON.
REBECCA: THAT'S HILARIOUS.
RABBI CAHN: IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LORD,
UNTIL WE REALIZE IT.
BUT THEN HE TURNS TO ME AND HE SAYS, JONATHAN,
YOU WROTE A BOOK, THIS BOOK IS OF GOD,
AND GOD IS GOING TO SPREAD IT ACROSS AMERICA AND
ACROSS THE WORLD.
HE'LL DO IT BY HIS HAND.
HE SAYS, YOU'LL BE KNOWN, BUT IT'S NOTHING COMPARED
TO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND GET READY.
AND IT TURNED OUT, THAT GUY,
NOT ONLY DID HE GIVE ME THAT WORD AND HE JUST
HAPPENED -- HE WASN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT
PLANE, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON ANOTHER PLANE,
BUT HE KEPT GETTING CANCELED,
SO THEY PUT HIM ON THIS PLANE AND HE SAT DOWN NEXT TO ME.
BUT HE SAID, THE LORD JUST SPOKE AND SAID,
YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO THAT MAN.
AND I HAD JUST FINISHED PRAYING OR I WAS JUST
PRAYING, ACTUALLY, WHILE HE -- HE SAID,
I CAN'T SPEAK TO HIM, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO HIM,
BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON, HE THOUGHT I LOOKED JEWISH.
BUT THEN HE SAID HE WAS LITERALLY GRIPPED WITH
PAIN UNTIL HE OPENED HIS MOUTH AND GAVE ME THE WORD.
AND HE WAS FRIENDS WITH STEPHEN STRANG,
WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF CHARISMA PUBLISHERS.
SO RIGHT AFTER THAT I GET A, OR A WHILE AFTER,
I GET AN EMAIL FROM STEPHEN STRANG,
AND IT SAYS, HEY, WE HEARD WHAT HAPPENED AT THE
AIRPORT, WE HEARD ABOUT THIS THING CALLEDTHE HARBINGER!.
WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS, BUT WE'RE INTERESTED.
AND THAT IS HOWTHE HARBINGER WENT FORTH TO
AMERICA AND THE WORLD.
TOTALLY BY THE HAND OF GOD.
TOTALLY.
REBECCA: OKAY.
SO I WANT TO GET INTO THE MESSAGE OFTHE HARBINGER,
SPECIFICALLYTHE HARBINGER II.
BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO WHEN YOU WERE IN NEW YORK CITY,
BECAUSE I THINK GOD IS REACHING OUT TO US,
BUT I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND TO SEARCH OUT
WHEN GOD IS PUTTING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL GET A PROPHETIC WORD.
ONE THING I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND GROWING UP IS
THAT WHEN YOU GET A PROPHETIC WORD,
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SEARCH THAT OUT IN SCRIPTURE.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE END,
IT CAN BE THE BEGINNING.
SO WHEN YOU SAW THAT TREE AT GROUND ZERO,
HOW -- DID YOU FEEL THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVE YOU --
DID HE HIGHLIGHT THAT TREE TO YOU?
AND THEN WHEN YOU STARTED TO SEARCH IT OUT IN
SCRIPTURE, DID HE BEGIN TO SHOW YOU AND IT UNFOLDED?
WHAT WAS THAT PROCESS LIKE?
RABBI CAHN: YEAH, THE FIRST THING, WELL,
IT'S LIKE SOMETHING CAME IN TO ME SAYING,
YOU HAVE TO SEEK THIS OUT.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO LEAD,
BUT THEN IT WAS LIKE EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS WAS
THAT MADE SURE THAT I KNEW -- I WAS LED TO THE NEXT THING.
LIKE WHEN I NEEDED SOMETHING,
SOMEBODY WOULD SAY A WORD, AND THE NEXT KEY WAS THE
NEXT PART OF THE HARBINGER.
REBECCA: OH, WOW.
RABBI CAHN: AT ONE POINT, I'M TYPING IN MY COMPUTER AND SOMETHING COMES BACK
THAT I DIDN'T EVEN ASK FOR,
AND IT WAS THE NEXT PART OFTHE HARBINGER.
I DIDN'T KNOW, WHEN I FIRST GOT THIS,
IT'S BASED ON THIS SCRIPTURE, ISAIAH 9:10,
AND I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL THE END OF IT,
I'M TYPING IT IN TO GET THE SCRIPTURE VERSE,
AND INSTEAD OF THE SCRIPTURE,
IT GETS THE ANNALS OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS,
AND I REALIZE AT THAT MOMENT ONLY AT THE END
THAT THE VERY SCRIPTURE WAS PROCLAIMED TO THE
WORLD FROM CAPITOL HILL THE DAY AFTER 9/11.
BUT I ALREADY HAD ALL THAT STUFF ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE,
I HAD NO IDEA.
SO GOD LED THAT.
AND SO WHAT GENERALLY IT IS,
HE'LL PUT THINGS ON ME, AND THEN LIKE FOR INSTANCE
LIKETHE PARADIGM, ONE OF THE BOOKS,
I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT I GO TO BED, I LAY DOWN,
MY WIFE'S SLEEPING NEXT TO ME,
AND LIKE THREE THINGS COME TO ME.
AND I WAS LIKE, IS THAT TRUE,
IS THAT -- THREE THINGS.
SO I GET UP, I GO INTO THE OTHER ROOM,
I TURN MY COMPUTER ON, AND I CHECK ON THE INTERNET,
AND IT'S ALL TRUE.
IT'S LIKE, WHOA.
SO IT WAS LIKE PUT ON MY HEART, PUT ON MY MIND,
AND THEN IT TURNS OUT.
SO HE LEADS ME.
AND THEN I KNOW LIKE I'M THE FIRST ONE TO BE BLOWN AWAY.
SO I KNOW, LIKE I KNOW IT'S THE LORD LIKE, OH,
WOW, LORD, HERE IT GOES AGAIN, HERE IT IS.
LIKE WHOA, THIS, THIS, THIS, WOW, LORD.
SO THAT'S IT.
SO THROUGH ALL DIFFERENT THINGS FROM PEOPLE SAYING
STUFF TO SIGNS TO SOMETHING APPEARING.
AND THINGS JUST COMING ONTO MY HEART AND COMING
INTO ME, WHICH I DON'T KNOW ARE TRUE,
UNTIL I GO TO THE INTERNET, AND THEN I SAID, WOW.
SO AGAIN, LORD.
SO I GET BLOWN AWAY BY IT, YEAH.
REBECCA: THAT'S A REALLY INCREDIBLE PROCESS,
THOUGH, THAT YOU TAKE IT ONE STEP AT A TIME IN THAT
YOU'RE OBEDIENT AND THAT YOU DON'T TAKE IT AND RUN
WITH IT ON YOUR OWN, YOU SEEK HIM OUT FOR EACH STEP.
HAS THE PROCESS GOTTEN EASIER WITH EACH BOOK?
RABBI CAHN: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EASIER,
BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EASIER.
BUT IT'S LIKE, WELL, USUALLY,
EVERYTHING WILL START WITH ONE THING.
EVERYTHING'S ONE THING COMES IN.
I REMEMBER TOWARDS THE PARADIGM.
SO ALSO THERE'S THE CONNECTION BETWEEN, WAIT,
JEHU AND TRUMP, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, OKAY, WHOA, NOT JUST JEHU,
NOW JEZEBEL, AHAB, THIS ONE, THIS ONE.
THE TIME.
THE EXACT YEAR.
IT WAS LIKE EVERYTHING.
SO IT STARTS WITH ONE THING AND THEN IT KEEPS
GOING LIKE, WHOA, LIKE -- AND ONE THING LEADS TO THE
NEXT AND LEADS TO THE NEXT AND THE NEXT, ALL OVER.
SO THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.
SO I'M ALWAYS BLOWN AWAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOTTEN ANY EASIER OR HARDER.
I LOVE THE PROCESS BECAUSE TO ME, IT'S LIKE, WOW,
LORD, KEEP IT COMING.
LIKE WOW, I'M BLOWN AWAY.
SO YEAH, BECAUSE I'M NOT -- GOD USES ALL THAT WE
ARE, HE USES OUR MIND.
BUT IT'S LIKE THE PROCESS IS LIKE,
IF I HAD TO TRY TO REPRODUCE ANY OF THAT,
I COULD NEVER REPRODUCE IT.
NEVER.
REBECCA: BECAUSE IT'S THE LORD.
AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT, IF YOU HADN'T -- WHEN THAT
CAME TO YOU, IF YOU HADN'T SEARCHED THAT OUT,
BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN, OH,
THAT'S JUST ONE THOUGHT.
BUT FROM ONE THING CAME THIS WHOLE THING,
AND IT SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BE RECEPTIVE --
RABBI CAHN: THAT'S RIGHT, YEAH.
REBECCA: -- TO WHAT GOD'S TELLING YOU.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH. YEAH, I WOULD WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I DID IT
WITH THE LORD, HAVE THE THING COME UP OR SOMEONE
TELL ME AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT YEAH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SENSITIVE,
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S GOING.
AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.
ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.
IT'S ONE THING AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.
AND AT NIGHT, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GO.
BUT LORD, THAT'S THE NEXT BOOK.
THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN THAT I DIDN'T EVEN PLAN --
I DIDN'T PLAN ON WRITINGTHE PARADIGM,
IT CAME LIKE THAT, IT CAME FROM ONE THING.
THE ORACLEIS ANOTHER ONE.
I DIDN'T PLAN ON WRITING THAT, IT JUST CAME LIKE, WHOA.
AND THEN BIGGER, BIGGER, BIGGER.
WOW.
AND THEN I THOUGHT AT THE END, I SAID, OKAY, IS THAT IT?
LIKE I'LL HAVE ALL THESE PAGES,
LIKE THE BOOK THAT I'M WORKING ON,
I PROBABLY HAVE FIVE THOUSAND PAGES OF NOTES.
REBECCA: [ GASPS ]
RABBI CAHN: NOT THAT I'M WRITING IT ALL,
BUT I'M GETTING ON THE INTERNET, I'M PASTING IT,
BUT ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND PAGES.
AND I HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, LORD, IS THAT IT?
LIKE DO I HAVE THE LAST REVELATION THAT YOU WANT
ME TO KNOW FOR THAT?
SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING, TOO.
REBECCA: WOW, THAT'S AMAZING. OKAY.
SO LET'S BEGIN TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK OFTHE HARBINGER!.
SO ISAIAH 9:10, TALK ABOUT THAT.
RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
IN THE LAST DAYS OF ANCIENT ISRAEL,
A NATION THAT HAD GONE AWAY FROM GOD,
THERE WERE SIGNS THAT APPEARED TO THAT NATION,
NINE HARBINGERS THAT ARE WARNING THE NATION OF JUDGMENT.
THEY'RE LINKED TO THIS SCRIPTURE, ISAIAH 9:10.
ISAIAH 9:10 IS ISAIAH RECORDING THIS VOW THAT
THEY MADE WHEN THEY WERE FIRST SHAKEN BY GOD,
WHICH IS A BIBLICAL PATTERN.
BEFORE JUDGMENT COMES, HE WARNS AND HE SHAPES.
AND EACH TIME, IT ACTUALLY COMES THROUGH AN ENEMY,
A STRIKE THAT'S ALLOWED FOR A MOMENT,
THE HEDGE IS LIFTED.
SO IT HAPPENS.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENED IS, THOSE SAME NINE HARBINGERS
THAT APPEARED IN THE LAST DAYS OF ANCIENT ISRAEL ARE
NOW REAPPEARING ON AMERICAN SOIL.
SOME IN NEW YORK CITY NEAR ME, SOME IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
SOME OF IT INVOLVED CEREMONIES, OBJECTS,
LEADERS, EVEN PRESIDENTS ARE PART OF THIS MYSTERY.
AND EACH ONE IS SPECIFIC.
AND IT'S APPEARED WARNING A NATION THAT'S IN DANGER
OF JUDGMENT, STARTING WITH 9/11.
THAT WAS LIKE THE TRIGGER EVENT.
AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING I DIDN'T PLAN ON,
YOU REMEMBER OR, YOU WERE YOUNG,
BUT DAVID WILKERSON, GREAT MAN OF GOD,
HE IS THE OTHER -- WHAT HE -- THE,
I THINK A WEEK OR TWO AFTER 9/11, HE SAID,
GOD GAVE ME A SCRIPTURE ABOUT 9/11,
AND THIS SCRIPTURE THAT HE BASED HIS SERMON ON WAS
ISAIAH 9:10, THE HARBINGER SCRIPTURES.
NOW, HE NEVER KNEW THAT THERE WERE HARBINGERS.
I'VE MET HIM ONCE, BUT I NEVER -- SO HE NEVER KNEW
THAT, BUT HE GOT -- HE'S THE ONLY -- HE GOT THAT
DIRECTLY FROM THE LORD THAT IT'S ISAIAH 9:10.
I GOT IT FROM THE HARBINGERS.
AND THEN THE WEIRD THING, WELL,
I DON'T USUALLY SHARE THIS,
BUT WHEN HE WENT TO BE WITH THE LORD,
THE NEXT DAY I GOT THE CONTRACT FORTHE HARBINGERTO GO FORTH.
SO I FEEL LIKE THE CONNECTION WITH THAT.
BUT YEAH, SO IT'S ISAIAH 9:10 FOR THOSE WHO LOOK AT
IT, BUT NINE SPECIFIC HARBINGERS OF JUDGMENT WARNING AMERICA.
REBECCA: AND SO WHAT DOES THAT SCRIPTURE SAY?
RABBI CAHN: IT WAS THE PEOPLE,
ONCE THAT FIRST STRIKE CAME, THEY SAID,
IT GOES LIKE THIS: THE BRICKS HAVE FALLEN --
ABOUT THE ATTACK -- BUT WE WILL REBUILD WITH QUARRIED
STONE; THE SYCAMORE TREES HAVE BEEN STRUCK DOWN,
BUT WE WILL PLANT CEDERS IN THEIR PLACE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS,
IT'S THEIR WAY OF SAYING, LORD, GOD,
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HUMBLE,
WE'RE NOT COMING BACK TO YOU, WE'RE NOT REPENTING.
YOU TRY TO DO THIS TO US, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK
STRONGER THAN WE WERE BEFORE WITHOUT YOU.
SO IT'S A SCRIPTURE OF DEFIANCE.
IF YOU LOOK AT ANY COMMENTARY, DEFIANCE.
AND THEN IT SAYS -- THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY, OKAY,
BECAUSE YOU DO -- YOU'VE DONE THAT,
THIS IS THE JUDGMENT THAT'S COMING.
SO THE PATTERN IS THAT YEARS BEFORE YOU HAVE THIS
STRIKE, THEN GOD GIVES THE NATION A TIME TO REPENT,
TO COME BACK TO GOD.
WE'VE BEEN IN THAT TIME.
BUT WE, AS A NATION, WE HAVE NOT ONLY NOT BEEN
REPENTING, WE'VE BEEN RACING AWAY FROM GOD,
JUST LIKE ANCIENT ISRAEL DID.
REBECCA: YEAH.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A HUGE ISSUE WITH
ANCIENT ISRAEL WAS PAGAN WORSHIP AND NOT LISTENING
TO GOD AND OBEYING HIS COMMANDS.
AND WHAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS BAEL AND THESE
DIFFERENT PAGAN GODS, THEY'RE REAL ENTITIES,
THEY'RE REAL DEMONIC SPIRITS THAT ARE STILL
OPERATING IN THIS WORLD TODAY.
AND THE SAME BAEL THAT THEY'RE WORSHIPING BACK
THEN, WE HAVE MODERN DAY BAEL WORSHIP IN AMERICA.
AND I REMEMBER REALIZING THAT ABORTION ISN'T JUST A
PHYSICAL MATTER, IT'S NOT JUST A POLITICAL MATTER,
IT'S A SPIRITUAL MATTER, AND IT'S MODERN DAY BAEL
WORSHIP, AND THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES
FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, AND THERE'S BEEN THIS
FIGHT OVER THAT.
AND SO WE, AS AMERICA, WE'RE NOT ISRAEL,
BUT WE CAN SEE THESE SIMILAR PATTERNS BECAUSE
WE'RE A NATION DEVOTED TO GOD THAT GOD IS,
IN HIS MERCY, IS TRYING TO WARN US AND TO CALL US
BACK TO HIM LIKE HE DID WITH ISRAEL.
BUT HOW ARE THINGS GOING SO FAR?
RABBI CAHN: WELL, NOT GOOD.
[ LAUGHING ]
RABBI CAHN: AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT
INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU'RE LISTENING TO ALL THESE THINGS.
THE BOOK THAT I'M WORKING ON NOW, OKAY,
WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE MOST EXPLOSIVE BOOK,
PROBABLY WILL GET BANNED, BUT IT'S THE MOST EXPLOSIVE BOOK.
REBECCA: OH, I'M EXCITED.
RABBI CAHN: AND I'VE HAD SO MUCH -- DID SO MUCH
SPIRITUAL WARFARE THAT FOR A YEAR I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE
TO WRITE IT.
BUT IT'S CALLED THE RETURN OF THE GODS.
REBECCA: TELL US ABOUT IT.
RABBI CAHN: WELL, I --
[ LAUGHING ]
REBECCA: BECAUSE WHAT DID YOU HEAR?
RABBI CAHN: WELL, WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU,
IT'S LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE YES,
YES, BUT IT'S SPECIFIC, IT'S EXACT,
PRINCIPALITIES, EXACT, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S
HAPPENING IN AMERICA WITH EXACT TIMES.
IT'S LIKE TAKE THAT AND THEN TAKE THE MYSTERIES OF
THE HARBINGERAND ALL THESE THINGS,
AND IT IS LIKE MIND-BOGGLING.
BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IS LINKED
TO SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC GODS OR PRINCIPALITIES.
REBECCA: YES.
RABBI CAHN: AND BEYOND ANYTHING.
AND THIS IS WHERE IT KEPT GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER
AND BIGGER AND I THOUGHT.
BUT IT'S LIKE GOING TO BE LIKE, WHOA, WHOA, IT'S LIKE, YEAH.
IS THE MESSIAH OF ISRAEL AND YESHUA TO THESE PEOPLE.
REBECCA: WELL, RABBI JONATHAN CAHN ALWAYS
BRINGS SO MUCH TO THE CONVERSATION.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO CUT ANYTHING OUT,
SO MAKE SURE YOU STAY TUNED FOR PART TWO. YOU CAN ALSO FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM
@REBECCALAMBWEISS.
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